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00:00 But Baltimore's a shithole, let's start with that. Wearing the helm of Jade, size 15 armband and broadcasting live from the Crackpot condo in FEMA Region 6 in the capital of your own star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm in the Tower of Truth, I'm John C. DeVore. Why you wrote that down didn't you know I just thought of a good one Tower of Truth Tower of Truth somebody sent a tweet in and I was retweeting saying listen to this show it has no it's the good news run down without the underpinning pinnings of politics the tower hashtag Tower of Truth hash browns Yes, it's almost May yes tomorrow is May do you know what May is mayday masturbation month

01:04 Says who? Why we're that's generally known. I mean generally known look it up. I've never look at it. It's real man. Look at stuff up my Google history. Well, I find everything I do may is masturbation month. It helps you masturbation helps you combat stress eases tension relieves pain aids sleep boost your self-esteem plus says who? Well, sex with Emily. How can you boost yourself with tea? Plus, exploring your own pleasure preferences helps you figure out exactly what you like and how you like it so you can share that formula with a partner. May is Masturbation Month. I wish it was by presidential proclamation. That sounds like a public service announcement. This is NBC. WNBC on Masturbation Month.

01:53 Yeah. All right, well, everybody, that's tomorrow, so everybody get ready. And what is that ranch hand stuff you got again? I wouldn't want to get that, don't get that stuff on you. No, the ranch hand lubricant? Oh, it's just so slippery. In fact, you got to be careful with this stuff. It's like if you spray something in the kitchen, say there's a squeaky thing on your refrigerator and a little bit of it gets on the floor, you never get it off and it's so slippery that you'll be falling on your ass for about a month. Okay. So be careful, be careful, be careful. Use with caution. I did something interesting last night. I was invited to a star party. I thought you went to an Obama-bot dinner. No, no, no, that's next week. A star party. A star party from all the celebrities in the Austin area. No, this was organized by Dana Falcomberry and the Night Blooms.

02:56 Dana, falconberry is pretty well known in austin is that a band the night blooms is a man, but dana falconberry is just solo singer mm-hmm okay, and I are a girl day girl girl girl cute super cute and One of our producers a friend of mine mark hall we've talked about he's a documentary filmmaker did the sushi the sushi tuna Documentary we talked about you don't remember um And he's working on some... we communicate a lot. He has good inside info. He's the guy that has the place in... uh... Panama. Does that ring a bell? Where? In Panama. Oh, right. You were gonna go there and visit with him. Yeah, yeah. There you go. There you go. So he said, look, I got an extra ticket to this star party and it's only like 50 people can be there and it's really... Why? Well, because it's one of these hush-hush things, apparently. I had no idea what to expect.

03:53 Okay, and so we we show up and this is at the What isn't it's a small park near bee caves here in Austin a little bit outside of the city So Dana Falkenberry looks a little like Justin Bieber I Can see that Yeah So it's a common, and it's free, but you can register online and after 50 people, whatever, that's it. And there's no other promotion or anything. It's just set up by these girls. And we didn't really know what to expect, but we heard there would be some telescopes. Okay. Oh, Star Party. It was a combo. So... You get to look at the stars. Yeah. The Austin Astronomical Society was there.

04:42 I realize it had been 40 years since I looked through a telescope at anything in the sky. When's the last time you looked through a telescope? I have a telescope. When's the last time you looked through it? Probably a month ago. What'd you look at? The neighbors? I usually look at, well actually, now that you mention it, it's got enough of a boost that you can from here, if it's a real clear day, you can look into the office buildings in San Francisco. Well, we were looking at Jupiter and I can't recall ever seeing Jupiter with the naked eye, well through the telescope, you could see the moons and everything. It was really nice and these guys, one of them had this homebrew lo-fi thing. It must have been a 10 inch diameter made out of a big plumbing tube.

05:31 And, you know, like a milk crate, plastic milk crate was the stand and it was, you know, of course didn't have any motor to, you know, so you could only watch for 40 or 50 seconds before whatever you're looking at moves out of view. It was really cool. And they were telling me how they, you know, you get the, they order these lenses, 18 inch diameter, a mirror, I should say, and it's hand polished by this guy. I had no idea. I don't know. It was kind of a very, low-tech, nice experience. And I encourage everybody to look through a telescope. But then after that, then there was like this This path with blue lit moon rocks into the woods, and there's a little shanty with rugs on the ground and and log benches and then Dana Falkenberry played for a half hour at 45 minutes or an hour. It was really nice. I should have been with a woman. You know Mark and I for well, that's okay. It's master base. I think coming up It was uh it was kind of spiritual. I think the portal is doing its business spiritual. Yeah, the portal is working on me

06:36 Okay, good. I just wanted to say that it's nice get out there and watch the stars once in a while sure if it wasn't for light pollution We'd have a great show every night everywhere. Yeah They've been trying to put a stop to it, but I went you know to Into a couple observatories the big ones big the big so there's one two hours outside of Austin and this the Austin Astronomical Society runs that and so I think it's meetings all the time you go up there look yeah, it's well one weekend per month It's open to the public. Yeah, you should do that, and I was like hey man show me the moon base the guys and he actually went like

07:16 No man, there's no Moonbase. I wish I had recorded it, it was so fantastic. I think he was... he knows. Everybody knows the moon base is on the other side of the moon you Telescope Hold on a second. I have to play something for you here. I didn't expect it to do it this early This is from Mac break weekly on the twit network discussing Oh gee the the Apple watch, but I do love this the I mean this isn't this is just a show-off display Yeah, here's the moon And I can actually go see the dark side of the moon and verify that Adam Curry's wrong. There is no secret US military base on the back there. It's Israeli moon base. Dork. Israeli, not American. Nice. We're gonna believe the Apple Watch now? Just believe the Apple Watch. It proves that Adam Curry is wrong! Just believe the Apple Watch. They need to get a room. Just believe the Apple Watch. Yeah, and then there was some other stuff going on.

08:26 Yeah, there is. There's some stuff going on. There's some stuff going on. Let me read a letter. Just get everybody up, you know, kind of uplift, you know, lift our spirits up for a moment. Think about the moon and the stars. And now let's talk about... Well, I think we should think about the light pollution. You can't see the moon and the stars. Horrible. As a former U.S. Army psychological operations specialist, I'm cleaning off my desk. There's a letter I should have read. It's from David Haas. My take on those photos of the guys which I had in the newsletter of these guys standing and shooting a giant, you know, machine gun with a light pod. In the desert? In the desert. A lot of foreigners, even legitimate military, will fire weapons like that because it makes them feel cool. I can see that. I have seen legitimate footage similar to the first picture of an actual firefight. There's one good YouTube video where the guy gets shot in the head.

09:19 It jumbles back down the hill. Nice. Even in our own military, we had to teach the privates not to hold the guns like a gangbanger. And he was in US Army Psychological Operations from 2003 to 2007. Well, if you've ever shot a machine gun, I'm sure you have. And I did it in Iraq, kind of free range. Yeah, total Rambo. I had two glocks, you know, like the Matrix. Yeah. You can't do that at a range. That's kind of frowned upon. Well, they have some ranges around the country that are designed for it. Yeah, not many. I know of them around here, but they're around. We had that great one here in Austin, which was open for exactly a month. And they had the, I told you Gene and I went there and they had the open range with all Mad Max beat up cars with Tannerite. And so if you hit it just right, it would explode. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. That lasted exactly a month. Okay. All right. But too much fun.

10:17 Go away. Too much fun. Shut it down. Too much fun. How can this be considered fun by any normal person? Quick call back to the episode from Sunday, just because I did some of the work. We were discussing Reggie Love, the former body man of President Obama, about the president being a lizard. Well, he doesn't exactly say a lizard. No, he just says he doesn't sweat. And First Lady Michelle. She's under like so much more pressure and scrutiny than the president or anyone else who works in the West Wing. But at work, it's the president and love who play the role of the old married couple. What does he do that drives you crazy? I thought that was pretty funny by the way, just as a single statement. What does he do that drives you crazy? The thing that used to kill me is that when I was... What?

11:08 When he gets up, and after he snores... Be quiet. I'm sorry, just I'm- I love to ride around with- Shut up! And I get hot, I start sweating, it's 80 degrees in this car. I'm gonna like pass out. Yeah, see, that was the bit. That the president does not use air conditioning in the beast. And it's 80 degrees in the car, Reggie Love is about to pass out, the president is not even breaking a sweat. Well, he's hoping he passes out. You're in quite... you are in quite on a roll today. Nice. I'm happy. All right, shall we tackle Baltimore right off the bat? Just get it done so we can do all kinds of other cool stuff? Okay, I've got some Baltimore clips, I believe. Now for those of you who don't know, the media has been showing, certainly in America, but I'm sure it's everywhere in Gitmo Nation, has been showing the black youths burning down Baltimore. That's pretty much all we've seen. Although there's been a lot of

12:04 Valiant attempts to I think there's a lot I think we're seeing a lot of hand-wringing too true But I got I have a lot of clips here just you know I play one right off the bat you need to you need to absolutely because I'm not sure what it is, but it's the Baltimore. This is a misdirection clip. This is one of those clips I like to always bring out where they're trying to make you look over here. This direction on ABC. Don't look over here. Nothing to see here. Look at that. Demanding peace. My message is that this is our city that we have to live here. We will have order and and we will have peace. This is the image they want more Americans to see, a black mother pulling her teenage son from the crowd of street thugs after spotting the young man on live TV. As we entered this city, you could smell the fire in the air and all night long it was the sound of fire alarms and sirens one after another, one after another. Police having so much trouble keeping up with this. The calls for peace

13:07 not being heated so far. Thanks to Steve for that one. To bring in our senior justice correspondent, Pierre Thomas right now. Pierre, we know now the National Guard coming into place, hoping for calm today, but there has been some criticism of Baltimore officials for not calling out the police in force fast enough. Yes, good morning George. There will be some Monday morning quarterbacking on whether they had enough officers out on patrol given Freddie Gray's funeral yesterday. Tensions were going to be high despite the calls for peace. Did the police move quickly enough to stop those stores from being looted? But they were clearly in a difficult position once people started throwing rocks and bricks. It was a dicey situation, George. And this city has been facing some chronic problems.

13:45 George, thugs and misguided young people have hijacked what were largely peaceful protests. And there were some powerful forces at work. Baltimore's poverty rate is nearly double the national average, and it has chronic severe drug and crime issues that lead to violence. Between 2010 and 2013, the city had nearly 900 murders. Some of those years, roughly half those homicides did not get solved. And you throw in the fact that the police department has had a difficult relationship with the black community in that town, paying out millions due to allegations of misconduct and excessive force. And right now, it's a witch's brew. Given what we're seeing, there's going to be tremendous pressure on the president and his new attorney general to engage publicly on this issue. Baltimore is only 40 miles from the nation's capital.

14:28 That's right. So far they're calling it a local issue, but you're exactly right. The AG briefed the president yesterday. Pierre Thomas, thanks very much. What part did you, did confuse you? Well, first of all, this is a pretty much of a black town, has a black mayor, it has a black police commissioner, it has a black head chief of police and it has 70% black cops. But the way they keep presenting this is like a Ferguson situation where you're dominated by, oh, the white man Republican is responsible somehow. Well, hello? Vote Democrat. Well, hold on, hold on. That's the fallacy. That has been the leadership of Baltimore has been Democrats since 1967. Right? That's true. 1967 has been all run by Democrats. And who is the a-hole responsible? Who's their representative? Name it. It's that douchebag Cummings.

15:28 Oh, Cummings, right. Cummings, the douchebag. Listen to this. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I got one more just which is just to remind people what's going on with a lot of this. Play the Baltimore Democrat formula clip. Wait. And when you play it, then tell me what you think I'm trying to bring out in this formula clip. Hold on a second. I just gotta restart that. Hold on. The formula. Okay. Yeah, and there's telling them to keep voting Democrat, I guess. Yeah, voting! So they're out with the same formula as they had Ferguson. They all hear, they vote. If you vote, we won't have these problems anymore because they don't vote out the white men. There's no white men left. Yeah, it's, it's, and what's even crazier, because I really studied this just from the media perspective, the MSNBC is, is all in on, um,

16:34 This is black versus white and I have some outrageous clips. I really they I mean fantastic really for the show, but there's also a war between it's it hasn't really surfaced yet Although I'm seeing it between MSNBC and CNN where MSNBC is saying CNN of the racist white news network They're not really saying what the Caucasian News Network. Let's just call it that. Let's start first with Aaron Burnett And, uh, but you know, she's so disappointing to me. I, she was so fun and nice on CNBC, and now she's just, just a robot, you know? There's just nothing, nothing coming out of her but reading the script. And she doesn't even really look cute anymore. I don't think she's trying.

17:20 That's just me. Here she is, I forget who she's talking to, but this was a big point that came up. And Councilman, you know, it's interesting because the mayor of Baltimore, who's come under a lot of criticism, scathing criticism for her handling of this, referred to the people who were doing this last night as thugs. And she got a lot of criticism for that. There were people I saw on Twitter saying, why would you call them thugs? Then they're not going to listen to you. President Obama also called the protesters in his words today, quote unquote, criminals and thugs. He also carefully chose to use that word. Isn't it the right word? Now this is, I was very surprised by what this councilman came back with. And this became one topic of debate between the News Networks and amongst themselves.

18:05 No, of course it's not the right word to call our children thugs. These are children who have been set aside, marginalized, who have not been engaged by us. No, we don't have to call them thugs. But how does that justify what they did? I mean, that's a sense of right from wrong. They know it's wrong to steal and burn down a CVS in an old person's home. I mean, come on. Come on, so calling them thugs, just call them niggers. Just call them niggers. No, we don't have to call them by names such as that. We don't have to do that. That is exactly what we've sent them to. No, when you say come on, come on what? You wouldn't call your child a thug if they should do something that would not be what you would expect them to do.

18:49 So the president, who was that guy? That was funny. He's councilman. I don't know. There's another one of those. A lot of councilmen. Yeah. Yeah. But I want to just point this out, since we're bringing these, since we seem to both have spotted this problem, this white versus black thing in a town that's all black run by blacks, run by the Democrats in 67. I should mention that Detroit had the same problem and is now a complete disaster because they never have this back and forth, swapping back and forth thing. The networks that were trying to keep this white versus black thing alive... Spent an awful lot of time clipping the white governor Yeah of the state of Maryland who came through to look around and they emphasized and the and white He emphasized he's a just an ugly white guy, and he's wandering around. He's got triple chins He's got one big and got no neck and he's like the worst-case scenario, so they saw finally Finally we got something here. Yeah, it's contrast well. There's a couple more things, but the the tea

19:47 word and now it's the T word by the way when I was growing up thugs were kind of like the you remember the three bad guys from the Donald Duck cartoon like Beagle Boys yeah the Beagle Boys they were thugs that was that's what a thug looked like and I think they were white well they were kind of hard to tell because they had their own shaded a cat or something that was that why don't we just do ourselves a little favor and let's just get the Definition of thug, let's see if there is a racial component to it. Violent person, especially a criminal. Oh, here's some synonyms we could use. Ruffian. I think that we should do... Those ruffians in Baltimore. Hoodlums, gangsters, villain, criminal. But also in historical context, a member of a religious organization of robbers and assassins in India. Well, she should have... You know, here's a... I don't know if I would have been able to do this.

20:43 But this guy, this councilman who comes on and he says, why don't we just use the words nigger instead of thug? She should have called him out on that. The word thug is not a racial term. It's not about a race. I understand. So I understand what the guy said. The guy is disgusting. This person. Yeah, I think he went in the wrong direction because what he's trying to put him out. Well, it's Aaron Burnett. This is I'm telling you, disappointing. What is what is going on here is they're trying to say these are poor people and they're pissed off. And, you know, so calling them thugs does injustice to what is happening. And I understand everyone... That would have been what you just said. He should have said that. He should have said... And some, there were some community leaders and councilmen who I thought were very eloquent and they were starting to get their message through. But let's go now to Alex Wagner from MSNBC, the all racial network.

21:37 really, really out of order what they're doing over there. To the use of the word itself, Brittany. I mean, I think there are folks like... And this is, I think, is a writer for Salon Magazine, Brittany. CNN's Erin Burnett, who don't understand why... See, here's the war. Oh, Erin Burnett. Erin Burnett doesn't understand. She's white, you see. She doesn't understand. To the use of the word itself, Brittany. I mean, I think there are folks like CNN's... Folks. Folks. I'm calling racial connotation right there. Folks. Folks. ...who don't understand why it's offensive and why some people are saying the T word is the N word. You know, why don't they, these are leaders of the black community, if you're on television, why don't you explain? I don't understand. I'm sorry. I don't. When did this become racial? When, when Tupac put thug life tattoos all over him, that's when it became racial or something?

22:30 You know, this is very disturbing what's going on here. Give us your take. Sure. It's rooted in a racialized understanding of black people. So for instance, no one is No one is calling the police who put this kid in a van and snapped his spine and crushed his voice box, thugs, right? They're only applying it to acts of violence against property, right? And sure, acts of harassment, sure, acts of anger. But when are we going to have a language to talk about the systemic violence that white folks do in the name of anti-blackness and white supremacy in this country? We don't have a language for that. So this becomes a way for there to be a procession of both white people in the media who are unsympathetic and also these sort of respectable,

23:08 middle class or upper class black people who are saying we want to maintain law and order. We want to make a distinction between us and the criminals and the thugs, the lower elements of black people. We don't want to be associated with them. Well, and Derek Clifton on the mic, Ari, says that by and large thug is used to describe black perpetrators of violence, very rarely white. When did this happen? I did not receive this memo. Who is this woman? This is Alex Wagner. She has that show on MSNBC. Man, she makes leaps of faith. And in this context, the use of the word thug has been used to delegitimize the actions of many because of the actions of a few. The fact is, the Black Lives Matter movement has been a peaceful movement. It's been a nonviolent movement. And so by making it seem like everyone in Black Lives Matter is now a thug, you're trying to delegitimize a movement and mischaracterize it.

24:00 You bring up this point in your writing today that it is as much a black-white issue as it is a black-black issue. I mean, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake is a black woman. Barack Obama is half black, half white, but is identified- Wait a minute! When did we get to say that? When do you get to say that? I've never heard... The only good news here is that nobody watches MSNBC. True. ...as a black president and they're using the word thug. Now Stephanie Rawlings-Blake has apologized. The president seems... If we're to believe the White House... Somebody apologized for using the word thug? You gotta apologize. The T word, John. The T word. Don't use the T word.

24:42 By the way, tits just called, they're pissed off. officers, destruction of property and a shattering of peace in the city of Baltimore. It would have been nice if she had mentioned Freddie Gray. That's right. Okay. Now let me switch back to the Caucasian News Network, CNN. This is Brooke Baldwin interviewing my, again, I'm sorry, there's so many people out there. It's kind of irrelevant because

25:20 The canar of the decade comes out. We talk about training, we talk about having officers. I was talking to a city councilman here last week who was saying, Brooke, these people... I'm sorry, she's talking to Cummings, I think. ...have to live in the communities. There's no emotional or there's a lack of emotional investment. And a lot of these young people, I mean, I've been talking about this so much, a lot of these young people, and I love our nation's veterans, but some of them are coming back from war. They don't know the communities and they're ready to do battle. Yeah, they need, they definitely need training. better training they need, better recruitment. No really Mr. Cummings, really. So Brooke Baldwin says oh this is you know these violent cops it's the veterans coming back ready for battle. Anything dark is a target. I'm making that up but that's the insinuation and I'm not sure what happened but man she had to retract that and she should I think she should be

26:11 relieved from duty for this. And good afternoon, I'm Brooke Baldwin here live in Baltimore in front of Camden Yards where we're five minutes away here from the first pitch. She sounded drunk there, did you hear that? She was like, live in Baltimore. And good afternoon, I'm Brooke Baldwin here live in Baltimore. the leaders who may be but i can't in yards were five minutes away here from the first page we're gonna talk about everything happening here in baltimore in just a moment before the second time today i just wanted to take a moment and discuss something that i said on my show just yesterday and i just want to apologize and during my show i gave credence to the idea that veterans returning from war who were police officers were furthering the problems in communities like these here in baltimore and nationwide

26:55 And I just have to take a moment again today to say I was wrong. I was so wrong to speak the way I did involving our men and women in uniform to perpetuate this false narrative. It's on me, I own it, and I apologize. Please, let's move on. Wow. Let's stop now and analyze what just happened. Please, let's move on? What do you think? Well, she obviously got this was an example of getting a getting the call from upstairs time big time because you know This is you don't stand out like a sore thumb twice. She did it twice. She did twice apology unless you're told to And not usually told to in a kind way The thing that was funny at the end. We said let's just please move on If you get if you get the call from upstairs and you end your apology with that

27:51 I think that's just her amateurishness more than anything. But she's not, she's professional. She's on CNN, I mean, how, you know, be honest about it. And, uh... Yeah, I don't know, I mean, you can't say that If you wanted to be honest about the whole thing about the veterans coming back and becoming cops, the real problem is the militarization of the police if you want to go in that direction. Well, not yet. Not yet. That is by the government. The government is... Government grants. ...the government security is doing that to us. Well, let's...the next clip, I think, again, MSNBC, I think it again is Alex Wagner. Just mind-boggling that this is...

28:37 I know, I think they should lose, they should just cut them off, off all cable. This is ridiculous. I just keep wondering, is there no benefit of the doubt given to a black person in public space? Because if that is true, if looking at an officer in the eye or if riding an expensive bike in a black body is a thing that inherently generates suspicion, then that That, even more than the incarceration state, is the new Jim Crow. That is what Jim Crow was, that black bodies in public space are inherently suspicious. Yes, yes. I want to mention two things. One, to a point you brought up earlier, speaking about the political leaders in Baltimore being black. And I think that white supremacy is so insidious and ingrained in this institution that you don't even have to have a white person around, right?

29:20 Let's get this straight. What she's saying when you put when you when it's all all said and done is the term would be what she's saying is that The blacks that run Baltimore since 1967, more or less, I mean, the Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, blacks and the black and the communities now, the black community run by blacks and everything is black. But this is the only place they can seem to get any traction. There are these black people, the mayor in particular, and I would say the chief of police and the police commissioner, they're white supremacists. Well, I think it's even worse. I think what she's saying, I'll roll it back just 15 seconds. I think what she's saying is

30:04 that white supremacy is so ingrained in our culture that even the black leaders are acting as if there was white supremacy hanging over them. Well, no, I don't think that's what she's saying. I think because I'll tell you why I don't think that's specifically it. The way sociology is taught in colleges. It tends to, there's implications. This comes up in the conversation once in a while. It's not the man, it's the office. The implication, and I believe what I'm about to say, I believe is partially, probably true. The idea that the office itself or these offices themselves, the mayor's office, the chief of police, all this,

30:47 It has been corrupted by the system of white supremacy to the point where, you know, it's not the man, it's the office. The offices are corrupted, which proves that the system is corrupt, which proves that capitalism doesn't work and we should all become socialists. I think there's an underlying message here that's trying to subvert the system itself. Yes. OK, that is a better version of what I said. Let's listen to the last 30 seconds. So just pause for a second because what you just said there I think is gonna be difficult for some folks to hear because some folks whitey discourse of white supremacy can often be an academic discourse that for ordinary folks listening at home ordinary folks not like you smarties on the telescreen they might say well did she just call all white people racist so help us out and kind of tease that out a little bit. Sure, I'll try my best.

32:00 Stupid white people don't get it! With an institution like American policing that I believe is founded on anti-blackness, on slave patrols, there are things that are so institutionally ingrained in terms of how we police communities that are anti-black. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. Thank you. Thank you, MSNBC. I need to respond to this. uh, people of Gitmo Nation. Watch this very closely. These Black Americans you see and the militarized police force on the other side of them, watch this very closely because you're next, whitey! That's what's going on here. You can sit around and argue, these morons in MSNBC can say it's a Black issue. No, white people, you're next. You're next. Poor people, that's what it is.

32:58 Then we had the controversy of something the mayor said Which he I don't know why people do this. She's saying I didn't say that you're misquoting me I didn't say this. I'll say the the very Blatant mischaracterization of my words Was not helpful today. I was asked a question about you'll hear in a moment the property damage that was done And in answering that question, I made it very clear that we balance a very fine line between giving protesters peaceful protestors space to protest. What I said is, in doing so,

33:45 people can hijack that and use that space for bad. I did not say that we were accepting of it. I did not say that we were passive to it. I was just explaining how property damage can happen during a peaceful protest. It is very unfortunate that members of your industry decided to mischaracterize my words and try to use it as a way to say that we're inciting violence. There's no such thing. to the videotape and listen to what the mayor actually said. Kind of hard to find a clip, strangely enough. Sounds like that's what she meant. We gave those that needed space to destroy, we gave them that space.

34:32 How can that be misquoted? It's not. And let me, I should mention something. I don't have a clip. It was on last night's news. The guy who is the police commissioner, the black police commissioner of the Baltimore area was the chief of police in Oakland. Oh, I did not know. He was the chief of police during the Occupy movement and during some other moments and they had, they played an interview with him where he says, he says this is style is to let things blow up a little bit. He doesn't want to jump. He has this theory and I, if you listen to it, it actually makes some sense. And in fact, it worked in Oakland. You let a riot, you can't just come in with,

35:18 guns blazing. to make a mess, to riot, to show the loot and do the whole thing. And you let it kind of calm down and you let the leaders, the civic leaders come out and moan and groan about these thugs and all the rest of it. You let that happen. And then you kind of bring the police in later, or in this case, had to bring in the National Guard because it seemed to be getting too carried away. But that's the idea. I think his thinking from watching these riots that have taken place in black communities since the 60s or beyond before that in the 50s and which were completely out of control. I don't think those count. They were different. Like the Watts riots and stuff? The Watts riots. What was the difference? They cracked down, they cracked down and it makes it worse. This is like the crackdown on MP3s.

36:09 By the RIAA, nobody was even downloading music until this is very down controversial what you're saying I would say very few people have taken this position I think it's not a popular position. I don't think anyone would like hearing it, but this police commissioner had publicly defended his policies of doing just that in Oakland, and Oakland was never burnt to the ground during this process where it could have easily gotten out of control. Well, honestly, Baltimore was also not burnt to the ground. I mean, it may look that way, but no, it wasn't burnt to the ground. No, as much as people would like it to be, and people goading

36:51 the public to burn it to the ground, this policy of this character may well be the thing that saves Baltimore from being burned to the ground. And nobody's bringing that up because the big narrative that the media loves is the Black versus White, which the Obama administration promotes. There's something else that I noticed and I was clipping stuff. It was a great night. I hate to say it. Maybe the portal download or something. I just this one after another I'm seeing something a pattern occur. It may be a space of 15 minutes and I had to record this and put it all together. It starts with the media darling of this, the black mother who goes out and whoops her black son's ass and

37:32 on television for partaking in the riots and So there's a little bit of her then there's three other mothers and some other guy It just it was all in the space span of 15 minutes, and I had to put it together As you guys watch that mom sure your mother's what do you think I Where to go mom? Sometimes you have to do what you need to do to take care of your kids and if she saw fit, just think about walking up to that crowd, she could look at that crowd and tell which one of those kids was hers. So at the end of the day, you need to do what you need to do to take care of your kids. I'd rather me knock his head off to get him to come home than for me to get a call and say they just buried my son. They only know what they're taught so if you don't teach them peace then they don't know peace.

38:16 At the end of the day, your children learn what you teach them. When you see pictures of like what happened last night, the burning and stuff on television, what do you what do y'all think? It makes us look bad, man. At the end of the day, what they show on the news and what they show to the media, they show them what they want to see. They don't actually let them see what's really going on. So I realize what has happened here. And I want to say something to you and to the producing public and the audience at large. You are as part of your now on Unagreed to but your your duties in the production of this programs you watch a lot of real mainstream stuff Real and I don't really watch the networks much, but you watch a lot of that and this is a

38:58 What has happened to you is the equivalent of shrapnel. I mean, you've been wounded by these phrases such as, at the end of the day, that are used incessantly. And you actually deserve a purple heart. So, this is... Oh yeah, I do. You have been infected and we need to clear you of this. I don't say the end of the day that much. No, but I... I say whatever the case, and yeah, no. But this is I so I just want to recognize your wound and we'll all work on healing it. I've been limping now Something about this mother is I want to discuss what about the folks who are saying? Oh, well, she was hitting him and I don't believe in corporal punishment and it's Don Lemon, you know She shouldn't been doing that. Well, I think are those folks gonna go and parent that child are those folks gonna be a So let's just stop it right there. I realized that

39:53 A lot of people I spoke to, and certainly people I saw on television, and across all colors and creeds, go mom, great mom, this is how you raise a child. But, you will never see a, or rarely see, a white mother doing that. and it certainly would not be discussed. If a white mom does that, it's, oh, you're horrible to your child. When a black mom does it, yeah, go. And I feel that whole thing, that whole conversation where everyone's going, yeah, she's great. Everyone's full of shit. That is the most racial part of the whole discussion. Yeah, nailed it. Beautiful. And it's mind boggling because if I say, oh, I beat my child up the head, you call Child Protective Services, bye!

40:41 And by the way, we know that black people hit their children upside the head, white people put them on leashes. I mean, we know how that works. I'm looking at you, Dvorak. Which reminds me of the Adrian Peterson football case where he was spanking his kid with a switch. Yeah, oh yes, I remember this of course was kicked out of the NFL for a year because of this and he had to be Contrises that's the way I was raised. That's the way everyone around me was raised and most of the black Football players were raised that were not most well Maybe a lot of the black football players are raised that way with with parents that were very strict And they bring out the belt or the switch or something and beat the kid for various reasons. It's cultural look

41:24 I just want to play this, it's about a minute of Don Lemon going through this conversation. And you know, obviously he wasn't beat upside the head enough by his mom. So what about the folks who are saying, oh well she- And these folks think, stop with folks, I feel discriminated now, I'm a folk. Folks, what about the folks who are saying? Oh, well, she was hitting him and I don't believe in corporal punishment and you know, she shouldn't been doing that Well, I think are those folks gonna go and parent that child are those folks gonna be around when that kid comes home from school and has nothing to do and you know, The mom's working three jobs and is worried about you know the state he's in. This girl's white by the way. Where he's spending his time so I think it's very easy to stand on a pulpit and criticize from ivory towers or to have opinions that are strong. So what she's saying really is is outrageous I think. Well that's easy to criticize moms because we're working three jobs and we can't go beat our son upside the head.

42:19 Well, I guess because black moms don't work or I don't know if the whole thing was disturbing but in such a tense situation It's really about making sure your kid doesn't get into more trouble in a worse way So we can't expect the role models that come around and do the parenting We can't expect teachers to do parenting We have to parent our own children when this stuff kicked off yesterday for you not to know where your children were and sitting down doing something hanging out with your friends or with your purse thing to do was to grab your children, hold them. I had to turn their phones off yesterday, turn the television off and just sit and talk to them because I'm having an after school program. And when things started... Dad's telling you something. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen to the end, the kicker. I have an after school program and when things started yesterday, I had 16 kids with me. I had to call all of their parents and say, your kids are safe. They're with me. They weren't calling me though. That's the scary part. Oh. Yeah, exactly.

43:08 Well, that...yeah, that's another conversation that could have gone off in that direction about the parents, how many parents are like that mom. I think the sympathy for that woman, you know, she's beating her kids and you can be critical of that kind of... She wasn't beating him, she was slapping, whooping him upside the head. Whooping him, whooping him. Yeah, she wasn't...whooping him. She didn't have him down, you know, and punching him. But I think that there is a second message in here, which is where were the other moms with those other kids that were there? It's like, and this woman when she came on, she's very straightforward. She's one of those hard-working, aggressive black single moms who's raising five kids, I think they're all girls and one boy. And she did not mince words about, you know, what it takes to do all this. And she's obviously anything but lazy.

43:59 You know, extremely responsible. And it's like, she's responsible, why can't everybody else be that way? And that was the main message, I think. Yes. As opposed to, why isn't everyone beating the crap out of their sons? But the racial part of it is that if white parents do that, oh... Well, I'm actually surprised. I think in a community that wasn't pretty much majority black ruled, like Baltimore, We'll see what happens, but I, if this was in somewhere in California with a bunch of these, you know, dipshits that run a lot of these police departments, they'd attract her down, found a son, and then arrest him. Take him away. Arrested him for being in the riots in the first place. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's an easy one. How can we miss up that easy arrest? This is an easy, an easy caller. Shoo in.

44:47 But one of the things not mentioned in any of this, of course, is the, and I think it's reflected in a lot of discussion, people should look into this, which is the, what is it called? There's a name for this. a black liberation theology, which is the Jeremiah Wright philosophy that Obama and the thugs running the White House... Oh, he's only half a thug. He's a thug-lite. There's a subscription to this idea, and it's actually very... if you read it, it has a lot of historical...

45:26 basis, but at one aspect of the basis, which is what I mentioned earlier, is some of the early black communist philosophers. And I still keep hearing the kind of stuff I used to hear in Berkeley in sociology classes, a subtle socialist communist message. And I think this whole thing...and now I'm beginning to think maybe the entire black versus white a discussion that is, in the case of Baltimore, is fake. But I still think the entire discussion is all about subverting the capitalist white system in favor of some socialist ideal. I buy into that. I buy into that. It's very subtle, but... Well, it's not so... ...extremely well done. And now we see... It's not so subtle when we look at it, but I think the public... Now we're seeing the pattern. The pattern is white kills black.

46:23 Then we have protests, and we even change...this is the sophisticated part of it. It's hands up, don't shoot, I can't breathe, Black Lives Matter. So there's a lot of messaging going on. Now we see in New York, we see the hijacking of it, and you could have waited for this. Now we see the professionally printed signs. This, of course, was a real outrage, what happened here. I believe a lot of it is truly poor parenting. I think that's kind of why this mom stood out so much, because kids are just, you know, the school system is broken. Look, Baltimore is busted. And then we see the voter registration drive, and of course Al Sharpton is next. So that is the entire format for this. And I was very happy to see many

47:11 people in Baltimore getting airtime, although the media did not understand what they were really saying, but just saying, hey, this is a socio-economic issue. This is poverty. This is not black versus white. And I also saw outrage toward the media. A lot of people were standing by saying, screw you, you guys are making the problem worse. So there is... What was that? Numericism of your business, your industry or something? Yes, your industry. Your industry. Two more clips just to, just stuff I caught. Rachel Maddow propagating the evil police meme. And yes, the police is militarized. Yes. Yes, there are issues, but I'm not a hentai cop and I like having the good cops with the bad cops. I'll take it.

47:57 As long as I'm armed as well. ...situation stays out of control. They're willing to use pepper pellets, they're willing to use rubber bullets and other projectiles. We've seen them using gas today. But if they're picking up things that are being thrown at them and throwing them back, that implies to me, just as a lay observer, that the police feel that the police are a little bit out of control. Out of control. They may not be necessarily using disciplined police tactics. Yes, out of control. Out of control. That didn't look out of control to me. And then Ture, of course, you know, this is how MSNBC and these organizations think, you know, let's put all the black people on because we got to propagate the black meme. Black versus white. And they put Ture

48:38 This guy, so he's on the streets, he's talking to a gang member, apparently a gang member from the Bloods because he's got a red bandana and the Bloods versus the Crips. Now the Bloods and the Crips, and I didn't even know that this was everywhere, I thought it was more really a West Coast California thing but apparently also in Baltimore. The Bloods versus the Crips. Now they, by this report, have banded together to stop the violence. There's something about this particular gang member that caught my ear. What's happening going forward, this alliance that we see between the Bloods and the Crips, is that going to continue in the future? It definitely is going to continue. That is never going to end in this city because now, based on, like I said, the beliefs that we go by,

49:24 We've made ties with the right political officials, the right people and everything of- we just made the right ties. They are going- there's gonna be peace here. Wow! So the Bloods and the Crips, they made the right political connections. That's what he said. He just said- he said this is a corrupt situation and we made a deal. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Ture wouldn't have picked up on that. No, Ture. Yeah, I took that out of the clip, but that question was actually prompted to him from the studio. That's how sad that guy is. I don't know what question to ask. Just sad. And there's one other thing I will say, just when it comes to the policies of the city of Baltimore,

50:17 The stadium, the placement of the stadium. This happens a lot. If a stadium is designed properly into the social layout of a city, it can be extremely beneficial. It is my understanding, and I don't know shit all about sports, first of all, and certainly not about how to build a city other than SimCity. that it's in a spot that really routed out, there's really no local commerce there, and it's just a big-ass stadium where... Okay, well, okay, you can stop. That's not true in any way. Okay. In fact, the biggest market area, I've been to Baltimore quite a few times. Baltimore's a shithole, let's start with that. Okay. Horrible place, it's a mess.

51:10 But there's that's not true. There's all kinds of shit going around that stadium. It's huge giant complex of markets and things which I like to shop at okay, and and when you leave it you were looking at the stadium. Well good, then we've debunked that. I'm just reading it everywhere so. Yeah, I don't know what they're talking about. The stadium probably was used when they built a beautiful place, by the way. When they built it, I think they took a bunch of slums out and put that stadium there, but it's not surrounded by apartments or anything, if that's what you're suggesting. No, the suggestion is different, but it doesn't matter. I'll take your word for it. Yeah. In fact, you can't drive around the Baltimore area without going past that stadium a dozen times.

51:52 very nicely located actually. It's just a pretty place. It livens up the area. So, in summary, what is good and I like where we've taken this. First of all, this is not a black-on-white issue. Well, of course there's racism, but this is a militarized police force that survives on grants from the federal government. And survive is because they've just gotten used to it and now they can't do without it. And I do like your analysis of this ultimately being a way to show the capitalist whitey that socialism is the way to go.

52:35 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the message. And vote Democrat. It's worked great since 1967, everybody. Keep it going. Keep those Democrats in there. If anybody wants to get a feel, or overseas listeners in particular, wants to kind of get a feel for Baltimore, watch The Wire. Yes, yes, yes. It's a very gritty It's written by a Baltimore Sun reporter and some of one of his buddies of course they don't work for newspapers anymore they make too much money otherwise and It is an outstanding series and almost laughably Critiqued for being like the epitome of great television Right, and it's a really good I say the first season in the third season watch those and you get a good feeling for a second season was a throwaway and with that I'd like to

53:26 Thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C where the C stands for communist socialist agenda Dvorak and in the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning at all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and and In the morning to all the dames and our nights out there in the morning to everybody in the chat room good to see y'all had no agenda stream calm and thank you as always our gratitude is deep for our artists the artists who are always working during the show to produce and artwork, which really makes a big difference in getting people to listen and noticing something new that's happening. Manny, who I do not believe we've used any of Manny's artwork previously, he created the album art for episode 716. That was the Portal episode. And we had a little call back to the Uber sources

54:25 By the way, I got a great new jingle for- I don't have an Uber thing right now, but I got a great jingle. I can't wait. Yeah? Anyone hear it? It's from Fletcher. Fletcher makes more than just screams. You know, Fletcher's a- he's a- yeah, he's a workaholic, that guy. Listen to this. He had this whole techno thing going on. Something about it that I liked. I'm not saying it's a basis for something bigger. I've had no I've only had American Ubers. I've had no no foreigners. I've got nothing for today, but I did but I before I forget I did get a note about the legality of it and alley of what of recording without telling anybody and

55:16 Oh, yeah, tell us, because we need to know what to do once you're in the slammer. This is from producer Joe. He says, 38 states and the District of Columbia have followed federal law and permit individuals to record conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so. These laws are referred to as one-party consent statutes, and as long as you are party to the conversation, it is legal for you to record it. Texas is one of those states. Oh, really? Uh-huh. Oh, well, good for you. Good to go. I know in California it's not true. You can't do that in California. Texas is one of those states. I do it occasionally only with...usually in contract negotiations or something I'll have a wire on. Although...wait a minute, stop the show. Wait a minute. If you're doing a contract negotiation, you're wearing a wire?

56:10 Uh, sometimes. What kind of contracts are we talking about? A hit on somebody or what? Anything involves money. But I did get a text from Uber driver Debbie. She said, you shameful, you shameful. What? This is Debbie who brought by my glasses after the yellow rose. She's shameful. But so what are you talking about? Recording Nicaragua, Sally. Now, luckily she was joking, but she says, by the way, more and more of us are listening to the show. Strippers? No, Uber Debbie, not the strippers. Well, I don't know what Debbie does in her spare time. So I got to be careful. I just don't see a lot of strippers listening to the show. No, but it's Debbie, the Uber driver. Oh, it was her that was she was actually Debbie herself? Yes. Oh, cool. She brought my glasses back after. All right. That's what I'm saying. You're not listening.

57:04 I'm doing something else. I know I'm confused. As soon as you mentioned the yellow rose, your brain goes, a whole bunch of doors open. I'm saying, where's he going to go with this? And does it involve strippers? So then I'm trying to decipher what you're saying. Maybe you're talking to me in code. No, I don't talk in code. You're creating confusion. I'm sorry. David Roberts, we want to thank him. He's our top donor for show 717. Is that the number? Yes, I think it is. Yes. Yes. $624.

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58:28 I don't know what DHR 624 means, but okay. I know you do. In the morning. This is Sir Jeff Smith saying say no to vocal fry the more you know in the morning Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand. Vocal fry! You've got karma. I added a karma there for him. Mark Borghese, he probably wanted one. Mark Borghese of the United States. You know I need him here, hold on a second. I had to, because this, I don't want to explain it in too much detail, but I need to move my spreadsheet around so I can get the cities. I see what I can do here, hang on.

59:17 Because the wordage came off the backside and it's okay. It's okay. I guess still can get the cities. Come on. Where are your cities? What are you trying to do? Oh, I'll be trying to I'm moving these little things back and forth. Why why why why okay? Well, you're not gonna have any cities for a while. It's gonna be states. Oh Okay, country so I can but I have the cities I can tell you the cities mark Borghese from Nevada Las Vegas yes night. Okay. That's the way we're gonna do it Yeah, okay night of the living dead's yeah, no song made me laugh so hard. I was compelled to donate Wow, thank you, sir living dead you made my day. Please play that song again. I'm shocked shocked to find ya know going on in here

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1:05:50 Oh, remember that? Yeah, I mean, yeah. You'll look for it while I'm continuing to read. I'd love to hear that, but I'm guessing Adam may not have it anymore. If not, I'll settle for some Ebola is growth, which I would choose. That's a good one. It's gross. Ebola. Speaking of John, I think Adam has been stepping on you a little too much recently. I would say so. I'm an old twit convert and still listen to Leo and John is on just for the cynicism and random bits of information. Very random. Frequently John will go on a diatribe or description of history like the Armenians which we never finished hearing Which Adam didn't allow to finish and can be extremely frustrating as I enjoy these non-political aspects of the show. Oh, that's bullshit I completely was quiet and listened to everything you said. I think I finished the Armenian thing I think I agree. I agree. I'm on your side. However, I did receive I do not believe that I had stopped talking about the Armenians until I was done correct, and I do have

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1:08:28 I just could not miss out on such a great Colonel Klink throwback. The podcast is great. I would say you two have found a true vocation. Sir David Brooks. My mom would be so happy. What are you doing, son? What are you doing with your time, son? I'm doing a podcast. What's that? What's a podcast? Is that something bad? It's not contagious. Craig Mazzella from 314 parts unknown parts on and parts unknown parts everything I know because I can't find an email from him either I look to and could not find anything okay oh wait here it is so what is it double oh what is this hey is this a double does is it double donation or I don't know we have to send him a note and see if he actually meant to do this maybe too much money

1:09:16 Craig Mazelis or Mad Hatter, that's who he is, yeah, the Mad Hatter. Yes. ITM, John and Adam wanted to get on the Fletcher Fest before it was too late. Can I get, ask for a modification? I would like my knighthood name Mad Hatter sung in the Ali Akbar melody instead of the usual scream. Was it Fletcher that did Ali Akbar? That's the one. That's Fletcher. I don't know the I know the thing we should keep now We keep the Fletcher fest as a Fletcher. We get this one time because we didn't put the rule down. We can do one Chew gum now this I want to say that no that it okay. Well if you know what's gonna happen right Fletcher He's a ham. He's gonna do it. Yeah. I do want to say in the show notes for today's show

1:10:09 And I will also tweet this out separately. We will have all of the Fletcher Fest shoutouts in one bundle, separate little files, and hopefully the No Agenda family of mixers and remixers and twiddlers and twinkers, whoops, will turn it into something we can play, which is not just, you know, something musical. Well, there's some people out there. We got cool people in the community. Something fun might happen. If not, it's just, there it is. If your name is If your name is one of the names, you're lucky. I mentioned in a previous show that I had attended the ICCS 2015 Cybersecurity Conference. Besides the all-in by the FBI of North Korea on the Sony hack, several speakers, including Mr. Comey, said to prepare for... This is interesting. This is well worth reading.

1:11:04 Said to prepare for a major attack on the critical infrastructure of the US within the next six months. This is like the Feinstein thing. We're going to have our, yes we are, so we're all doomed. Judd Johnson's grab of the Coast Guard is very much in line with this. I'll be interested to see if the new take on the six-week cycle is more significant, has a more significant six-month cycle. There were two targets discussed, the power grid and international shipping. Oh, that's for the Coast Guard. Yeah, yeah. That's where J has the Coast Guard. Yeah. J. Yeah, that makes sense. Apparently the communication systems used by the shipping industry is very insecure. I can't help but feel that there will be some strike on a major shipping carrier which would be used as the basis for a money grab in the Coast Guard to enhance it for the money,

1:11:56 for the Coast Guard, a money grab for the Coast Guard to enhance security. Sure. With Juh leaving in 2016, it could position him for a long and lucrative career advising the shipping. This is a great call, by the way. Advising the shipping industry on security and best practices. Remind me I have a Gear clip. The show is great as always. I look forward to Sundays and Thursdays. Thank you for everything, Sir Henry Viscount of Queens for hitting me in the mouth. It was needed. Sir Mad Hatter. Sir Philip Zirin in Winterthur, Switzerland, 215. There was a... I think they had a note for him. Hold on a second.

1:12:40 I think I may have it. Yeah, I have it here. Hold on. Sorry. Didn't expect it to be right now. The MIA notes that Eric was saying. We have such a great system. Here it is. Uh, dear John and Adam, first of all I'd like to thank you both for your excellent work. I count myself lucky to enjoy your first-class media analysis twice a week. Therefore, I'd like to encourage all the listening douchebags out there to abandon the pseudo-philosophical notion that the best things in life are for free. That's just bullcrap! This is my first donation since I achieved knighthood. I knew it was time for my next donation since I started to catch myself on the yeah-no. Actually, it's not bothering me to say that at all. What is bothering me is to catch myself even in my mother tongue, Swiss German. This has to stop. Damn you! Okay. And I'd like to request human resources, karma, and a damn SharePoint fill from John Fletcher. Oh, okay. Damn SharePoint fill. Okay. Damn SharePoint fill!

1:13:44 You've got karma. Stanley Kefter in Florida. Tallahassee. Tallahassee, Lassie. 31415, it should say has note. Oh, is it check? It's gray, meaning it was a check. Yeah, here it is. Stacey Kepford is actually, looks like Jason is the one who sent the money in. Whatever the case, amen, fist bump. Surge. Amen, fist bump. Amen, fist bump, comrades. Oh, that's it? That's enough? It's been a while since I've supported the best podcast in the universe, but the economics of being a grad student, there's a grad student here. Yeah. You have a grad student

1:14:39 Doesn't help but I must see I get in on this John Fletcher action while I still can if this gets you in in time May I please may I please get the jingle Fletcher screaming kefir as part of the key for as part of the expiring Donation promotion as for today's show can I get a Fletcher screaming? Let's get social Does he I don't remember that we have that and some karma. Thank you for the excellent show and please keep it up Yes, very happy You've got karma Gotta add the social media part onto that, okay

1:15:20 Let's get social with social media. I mean, it would be just too funny. Mark McAvoy. I think that's a hit song in the waiting. It is. Yeah. I think Taylor Swift should sing it. Mark McAvoy. I finally found a Taylor Swift. I can't say Taylor. I have to say Stahler. Stahler Twist. Stahler Twist. I have finally found a song of hers I liked. And? Okay. Mark McAvoy. What? Oh, what song? Style. Is that the name of the song that you like? Yeah, it's very catchy. And very well produced. It's well structured and then I looked at the writing credits, there's about six guys who did it. I don't know how much. Oh yeah, these are the crack writing teams. It's a crack writing team put it together. This is the way it goes, man. Mark McAvoy, $200 and one penny.

1:16:12 The president of Intella, IntellaArmor.com, IntellaArmor.com, called me out as a douchebag twice. Oh, noes. And he was right. I've been a boner for almost five years now. Please accept this donation which should get you 100 boxes of mac and cheese, and you're welcome. I would say he needs a de-douching. I'll give him a... Oh, by the way, this is how it works. We're talking about Fletcher on the show, and then all of a sudden... Guy is so cool. I told you he's a ham. Yeah, he is. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Nice. And finally, last but not least, is Sir Donald Silva. And curiously, I do have a note.

1:17:00 Sorry, this came in as a check. This isn't handwritten since I had a stroke seven years ago. My handwriting now really sucks. Fortunately, it's about the only thing that sucks other than my optical knowledge, optical physics UCSD 1970. Unfortunately, I'm retired and I don't need it anymore. I'm sorry that the contributions are down. They were. I would mourn the loss of hearing the two of you banter the news of the day as something I can't, something a wise man said, whatever has a beginning has an end. Your show will end. Hopefully we can hold it off until you retire.

1:17:36 retire, retire with what? With what? This show ever ends is not because we retired, it's because people stopped paying it. Here's the bottom line. This show will end, but it will end badly. Yeah, we could always have a feud. We have an ongoing feud anyway, but we might as well have a real one. Martin Lewis, I'm thinking of. These are official credits. Wait, I'm not done. Anyway, saying there's one leader he really admired. He was the first president of the Czech Republic. His name was Vaclav Havel, who was a writer and philosopher. No one comes close to this guy. There are many good people. Unfortunately, they're not in politics. Of course, I speak in generalities. I think your show, I think you run your show perfectly. You're pretty consistent these past seven years. And then the last five, four, three, maybe.

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1:19:04 on Etsy, and I have a link in the show notes under PR. She's got just some dynamite, handmade, no agenda stuff. It's just, it's beautiful. She's making stuff in brass, embroidery, just, I don't know, she's very creative. Buttons all kinds of things. Have you seen it? Have you seen some of that? I just got my box Oh, so you got it. What do you have in the box? I have a piece of copper that's been pounded copper Yeah, nice something and then I have a bunch of 33 buttons which I can give away. They're pretty cool Nice and some other miscellaneous stuff. Yeah, nice. It's all cool. I guess she did mix a Ekes out a living on Etsy selling. Yes, you think and she just cranks him out one hour new meme. Boom. There's some new copper Fantastic

1:19:47 Thank you all very much for supporting us, you execs and associate execs. Devorac.org slash N-A. Obviously we always need everybody out there propagating our ever-important formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave. Shut up. Shut up, I said. Shut up, slave.

1:20:25 Now, I said, remember, I need to play something. I had a clip about something and now I... This reminds me, while you're looking for that clip and you mumbled to yourself why you're doing this because I got to run over and get the red book. I'm mumbling to myself. I'm just mumbling a little bit. It was about... See, this is a short-term memory that goes first, man. What the heck was I talking about? Oh, Judd Johnson. Here we go. Judd Johnson was being grilled on the Hill. This is the Department of Homeland Security Oversight Committee and... He was asked a question by Rand Paul, and not only is his answer very telling, but Rand Paul also was very telling in his follow-up about his stance. And this is specifically about mass surveillance.

1:21:15 Which as we know, according to the cyber edict, Jeh Johnson, the director of the Department of Homeland Security, until 2016 is when he leaves. So he's coming to clean something up. A lot of this falls under him and he's going to make sure that, you know, there's no infighting amongst the agencies. And he apparently has the golden ticket or the golden key from the president, his boss, as he said, to do this. Now, a reminder, J. Johnson, as we call him, J.E.H. Johnson, was before this the man, the legal opinion dude, that's a title, in the Pentagon for drone strikes, lethal drone strikes.

1:21:58 So the call would come from, I don't know if it came from the executive office, but they have these on Tuesdays. But as he said himself, sometimes with just minutes to spare, is it legal to kill this person regardless of skin color, creed, nationality, USA citizen, American citizens. And he's the trigger man. He gave the legal authority. So if you think he knows something about law, Here's the question.

1:22:37 You're asking me a legal question. Gee, it's so hard. I can think in minutes if it's about killing someone, but it's a pretty big question. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm sorry, Senator. I'm not sure how to, I'm not sure I know how to answer that. Do you believe the government has the right to have bulk collection of records from millions of individuals without a warrant? I see. That is... And remember, the guy can think on his feet three seconds if you can kill an American citizen. Respectfully say that that probably, that is beyond my competence as the Secretary of Homeland Security to answer in any intelligent legal way. I wouldn't want to hazard a legal judgment on that. Baaaaah. Cop out.

1:23:24 Now listen to Rand Paul. He doesn't know what the official is. He needs to go talk to Josh Earnest. Yeah, he didn't have the official word. Let's listen to Rand Paul's follow-up. It says something very interesting for all fans of Rand. Here's the problem. I mean your agency's in charge of cooperating and being part of this and That's the whole debate we have in our country is over whether you should do this and your testimony you complain about encryption Why do you think that companies are choosing to have? go in the direction of more encryption and It's because they feel you're taking our information without a warrant. So I would hazard that and I would propose... What is this, I would hazard? I would hazard. What is that? It means I would hazard. I'm doing something. It means I would take a chance... The dangerous step. ...on asking a question... The dangerous step. ...because they feel you're taking... This question might cause me trouble, might be bad for me to do. It's because they feel you're taking our information without a warrant.

1:24:25 So, I would hazard that and I would propose that there is no person named Verizon. So, you do not have an individualized warrant. By the way, this doesn't jibe with me because the way I understand U.S. persons in the legal definition, Verizon would most certainly be a person. So, I think Rand Paul makes a mistake here. He makes a mistake. Yeah, what are you getting at, Rand? Well, listen, I'm getting at one thing with him. Do not have an individualized warrant under the Fourth Amendment when you say to Mr. Verizon, we want hundreds of millions of records. And this is a debate and it's an important one. And if we're going to complain about encryption or we're going to complain about individuals wanting privacy, we really need to have a thorough

1:25:11 discussion and understanding of the fourth amendment and the complaints by many of us that you're doing something without a warrant. The other thing I would say is with encryption, if you get a warrant, I'm one of the biggest civil libertarians there is, but if you have a warrant, I'm fine with you getting an unencrypted data from people. Hello douche bag. Wow. That is not, that is by definition no longer encryption. The encryption is one, you know, two parties. Boom, that's it. Not a third party. It's two. So there's your Rand Paul, the big libertarian, the big hope.

1:25:47 of the libertarian libertarian hope the great libertarian hope all in that's not right all and by the way if he was you want to be technical you could just all in kind of a ceo gets the warrant it's not in the individualized he owns the account or runs the company he gets a warrant and then you go to just all records he's all in this guy all in wake up i demand you break your conditioning I got one for you. I think you're gonna play it. I've got a this one me I'm thinking of it as an evergreen unless if I can find it is in here. It's hands clapping thumbs up Okay, hands clapping thumbs up. I Like it amen fist bump. That's good. You can you can meld them together. Where did this come from?

1:26:31 It came from a commercial for I think Wendy's or Jack and I like it by the way This is how great the commercial is I don't remember what's a hammer? Exactly. It's clapping thumbs up. Amen fist bump. It's the same cadence is beautiful evergreen for sure. Yeah, good one. Good one conditioning All right. Oh Here's an email. This is the one I wanted to read. Oh In the morning, Adam, for what it's worth, I believe your diagnosis regarding Bill Clinton's pump head is spot on. No. Now this is the condition... well, I'll read on. I'm a practicing heart surgeon and unfortunately I see this phenomenon occur especially in older patients whose aortas are often littered with atherosclerosis.

1:27:19 As I'm saying, atherosclerosis, thank you. As a manner of neurological defects can result, all manner of neurological defects can result including weakness, tremors, slurred speech and confusion. And it probably accounts for all of it then, including the tremors. Well, so regarding the tremors, we didn't quite know if it was Parkinson's or not. Apparently, Bill Clinton went on Larry King. Is Larry King on a channel anymore? Where is he? Yeah, he's on RT. Oh, okay. Here it is. But he's actually still running his own. That's taken from that Iceberg Slim guy who was a big Mexican billionaire that owns, you know, the oil.

1:28:01 I don't know, Carlos. And he does a, I can't remember the name of the network, that's how bad it is. It's some little rinky-dink online network and then so they sell it off to RT. Here it is. Most a lot of tweeter questions. I love Harry Larry Harry King Most tweeter questions this guy's genius most Twitter most Harry King everybody most a lot of tweeter questions are asking about your health How's your health in the tweeter question with tabloid stories saying you had Parkinson's disease? You know why that is? Why have you ever noticed my left hand shake sometimes shake a little bit today see not much just a little

1:28:42 And when I'm tired or more tired, excuse me, it sometimes shakes more. I noticed this a couple of years ago. So I actually went to my doctor and he got me with a specialist and they tested me for Parkinson's. I said, look, if I got this, I want to know, I want to manage it. And he said, you absolutely do not. And the first thing that the guy tested me and then he said, it's worse when you're tired. And I said, yeah. He said, when people get older, they quite often have a tremor in their hands, a little tremor. And that... Now you're giving it to me. He said, you just have to fight it. He said, you have to, you know, keep your grip strong and avoid spasm muscles. May is going to be a great month for Bill. And he said, try to get enough sleep. But he said, you don't have a Parkinson's problem. So I've

1:29:37 I'm living and breathing for an end to the Parkinson's problem. I hope that the Human Genome Project will do it for Michael J. Fox, for Janet Reno, for all the friends I've had who dealt with Parkinson's. But I apparently don't have it. How's your heart? Apparently. As far as I know it's okay. On my last medical exam I got a good report. Right, so being from the future, of course, we have predicted Maybe not good things in Bill Clinton's future. You know, the best thing that could happen is just a heart attack. You know, I don't know, like if your airplane has to make an emergency landing or something, which actually happened. You didn't hear about that? I'm sorry? You didn't hear about the Clinton's plane making an emergency landing? No, not at all. Yeah, the engine went out and they had to make an emergency landing. A jet? No, it was a turboprop. Oh. Where was he going? Where was he coming from? He was, well, I shall tell you.

1:30:36 He was in Tanzania. Good place for it to happen. Yes, like yeah, it's a great place for it to happen if you want to. Well, but not a crash. This is the thing. He doesn't need a crash. He just needs something that'll stir up his heart. One of those. Oh, I see what you're thinking. Yeah, well, I'm just thinking. No, I mean, we both are thinking about this. And you can always follow me on Twitter. Second, I think that we should be berated. No one has said anything for us going down this path and it would never be done by any commercial broadcast ever. But we do it and if people don't know what we're talking about, the theory that Hillary to get over the top in an election situation would have

1:31:21 her husband killed off or he would volunteer to die for her. I think he would actually volunteer. I'm tired of this anyway. Let me go on and blaze a glory. It's a possibility. Blaze a glory. Larry King now grilling him about his health is like a kind of a reminder from some other source. And by the way, how's your head? And again, the thing is, you listen to that clip, how's your heart? And it was going to go into another discussion. Also a lot of interference being run on the book, the Clinton Cash. As best they can. I was watching some analysis of this by some experts, and they said that typically the Clintons approach to these exposés... And by the way, if you haven't noticed, and I'm sure everyone has, the author's name is never mentioned without the word conservative. Conservative author, blah, blah, blah. Conservative writer, blah, blah, blah. Conservative reporter, blah, blah, blah. I don't know if it's in this particular clip. So the number one... Excuse me.

1:32:20 The number one operative for the Clintons in the news media is George Stephanopoulos. And he's at ABC, of course, and he does all the big interviews, and he does on the Good Morning America, and he also goes on the Jon Stewart program to run interference specifically about the book, which I have not read yet. But of course... It hasn't been published, it's not out. Ah, but Stephanopoulos has read it. And he's interviewed the author. I don't think he mentions him by name. But he says some interesting things here. foreign donors that might have given to the Clinton Global Initiative and then there might have been favors done at the State Department. And it's to the tune of some, I think some millions of dollars. You know, I read the book. Some millions? How about hundreds of millions? This is based on Clinton cash. And I actually interviewed the author on Sunday. This is a tough one because when you actually look closely at it,

1:31:21 her husband killed off or he would volunteer to die for her. I think he would actually volunteer. I'm tired of this anyway. Let me go on and blaze a glory. It's a possibility. Blaze a glory. Larry King now grilling him about his health is like a kind of a reminder from some other source. And by the way, how's your head? And again, the thing is, you listen to that clip, how's your heart? And it was going to go into another discussion. Also a lot of interference being run on the book, the Clinton Cash. As best they can. I was watching some analysis of this by some experts, and they said that typically the Clintons approach to these exposés... And by the way, if you haven't noticed, and I'm sure everyone has, the author's name is never mentioned without the word conservative. Conservative author, blah, blah, blah. Conservative writer, blah, blah, blah. Conservative reporter, blah, blah, blah. I don't know if it's in this particular clip. So the number one... Excuse me.

1:32:20 The number one operative for the Clintons in the news media is George Stephanopoulos. And he's at ABC, of course, and he does all the big interviews, and he does on the Good Morning America, and he also goes on the Jon Stewart program to run interference specifically about the book, which I have not read yet. But of course... It hasn't been published, it's not out. Ah, but Stephanopoulos has read it. And he's interviewed the author. I don't think he mentions him by name. But he says some interesting things here. foreign donors that might have given to the Clinton Global Initiative and then there might have been favors done at the State Department. And it's to the tune of some, I think some millions of dollars. You know, I read the book. Some millions? How about hundreds of millions? This is based on Clinton cash. And I actually interviewed the author on Sunday. This is a tough one because when you actually look closely at it,

1:33:13 He even says there's no evidence of any direct action taken on behalf of the donors. But everybody also knows when those donors give that money and President Clinton or someone, they get a picture with him, there's a hope that that's going to lead to something. And that's what you have to be careful of. Of course. My point is, though, that so there's an industry around this. A book is written. The guy comes on your show. He does a bunch of interviews. He does a bunch of interviews with other people. And they all talk about the scandal of these few millions of dollars and what it might have led to in the same breath. She announced I'm gonna raise 2.5 billion dollars and everybody was like she's serious Yeah

1:33:51 Yeah, so there he is. What is interesting about this is for years we have been polling, dissecting and discussing mainly in regard when it started with Haiti and the theft I would say of billions of dollars just who knows where it's gone but we know where it initially went when we had three presidents saying we need to... We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. So we've been looking at these form 990s and now it seems like oh journalists have discovered you can look at the form 990 and Yeah, and where what they're focusing on now, which I think is a distraction, but I need to look into it I'll take today and tomorrow and Saturday is the is the Canadian

1:34:43 of the Clinton Foundation, Clinton Global Initiative, I think, Foundation, which is the Clinton-Giustra Enterprise Partnership, the CGEP, a full Canadian affiliate, and 1,100 donors that donated through that, let's just call it a portal for lack of a better word. Now what the Clinton camp and lawyers are saying is that Canadian law does not allow for the disclosure of people donating to non-profits. I don't know if this is true, sounds fishy,

1:35:23 But I will say at the same time, on a Form 990, it is not required. And you have a 501 3C, 501 4C, different types of non-profits, and it's very hard to find out who actually donated. It is my understanding a lot of the donations, the big money, came in through credit card transactions from overseas. But, you know, It's kind of irrelevant. They're going back, they're going to refile, and the Canadian CGEP says we're going to approach as many of these 1,100 undisclosed donors as possible. We'll ask them if it's okay for them to disclose their name. Well, good luck with that. That's not going to happen.

1:36:10 There was a discussion, I didn't get any clips from it, but somebody deconstructing the Clinton, Bill Clinton and Hillary methodology for these harmful books that come out. And I think, I can't remember the guy's name, but they had a PR guy or a press guy for a while who was really adept at dealing with crisis, crisis management expert. And he said, this guy said, this book isn't following the exact pattern because it kind of caught him flat-footed. Because normally, way before book publication time, the Clintons get an advanced copy through some moles they have in the publishing industry. Oh, no doubt. And then they strategize how to take the guy out. But usually they go after the writer.

1:36:53 as a douchebag. Conservative and all that. Well, which yeah, I think is why they keep saying conservative. But they make him out to be a douchebag, he's full of crap, and they do this way before the book comes out. So the book comes out flat, it comes out to an uninterested audience because it gets discussed to an extreme. And I don't know that they I mean, it seems that there is an element of that here because, like you said, you haven't read the book yet, you say. The book is not out, but yet the Clintons are all over it. Stephenopoulos read it, he said. And somehow, Stephenopoulos read it. So this is going to be interesting. But apparently, the book has got all kinds of cool stuff in it. We'll find out. Let's face it, these two are just not on the up and up.

1:37:40 Yeah, everyone seems to have, every Obama bot I talked to though seems to have given in. Well, now. It's the best we can do. She deserves it. Yeah, I'm sorry. She's worked hard for it. She deserves it. Exactly. She's worked hard for it. She deserves it. Since we have a new attorney general, she's been confirmed, our new attorney general. Oh, right. The one who's best friends with Holder's wife, I guess. And Holder is on his way out, so finally, and he's got to leave a legacy. How do you think he thinks how he's done in Department of Justice? Well, by that one picture he's got, which is floating around, I'll try to find it and put it in the next newsletter. So be aware for the Holder picture. You want to explain the picture? Yeah, he just thinks he's the greatest, he's with a bunch of Greek gods, or he's surrounded by these images of himself, or these people holding their hands, and he's doing the same thing. Alright, so let's just run down... He thinks he's the best. Let's run down the controversies of the Holder Justice Department. We had the gun running, right?

1:38:44 What was that called? The Mexican cartels with the sole purpose of getting the Sinaloa cartel to take over the whole operation. I think that whole thing fell through, but it was a nice try. We had IRS emails. Would that fall under him as well? I think that falls under him as well. Well, I think the prosecution would. And I think, and he was also holding out documents if you remember. Ah right, he did want to send documents. In Congress, and he should have been held, and he was held in contempt of Congress, and the local district attorney of Washington D.C. was supposed to prosecute, and nothing came of it. gotten away with something. Yeah. And of course he locked up journalists and, you know, the Fox guy as a whistleblower, he's locked. In fact, most of the New York times resting more whistleblowers have been jailed under this attorney general than ever, ever, never. Yeah. A total ever. And how did he do on, on, on the Snowden stuff? Pretty poor, I'd say in general.

1:39:42 Well, I don't know if he had a chance to really do any damage. Well, here he is talking. And he also busted the legal pot, medical pot. Yeah, good work. In California, said that thugs, thugs, thugs, out in California to beat up these guys and take their pot. Here he is talking to his people. I guess he has a little speech and talk to the Department of the people of the Department of Justice. I think that as we look back at these past six years, what I want you all to understand is that you have done truly historic, historic and big things. I mean, no matter where you looked,

1:40:22 If you look at, from the basic stuff, you know, this department is restored. It's restored to what it always was, and certainly it was when I got here, and what it must always be. Free of politicization, focused on the mission, and making sure that justice is done without any kind of interference from political outsiders. Well, sounds jovial to me. Perfect. All good. All right. Well, we can disagree on that. That's for sure. Let's see what else we got. What else you looking at? I have a lot of different things. I'm working on the story for Sunday. I've received an interview with a very experienced pilot. This is regarding

1:41:18 German wings crash, but it appears to be something, part of something larger. But when it comes to planes crashing down in this particular manner, and I wasn't, and he's very long winded. This is the problem. I'm going to have to tell his story and use some of his clips. But, and it also had to wrap my brain around what he was saying, but from the information that has been told to the public as fact, fact of record, fact of the... the... the... the... the cockpit voice recorder... the evidence that has been presented cannot have happened in that manner. And there's only one answer to how this happened.

1:42:05 And it really... I had to just... Okay. So that'll be Sunday. However, I did want to mention with the... My friend Theo would laugh at the unintended consequences of technology. And of course my favorite word is being used, an iPad glitch. according to what's this, Associated Press? I'm sure that they find that more than sufficient to just use the word glitch. I mean, why bother trying to find out what's really going on in technology these days? Broke all of the American Airlines electronic flight bags running on their iPads. And the whole fleet was grounded while they did an upgrade to their app, which is, they don't carry paper anymore.

1:42:52 Well as an as an as a pilot as an airman this is annoying You cannot have this type of...and it's because it's cloud-based and distributed. This is, again, this is where the problem comes from. One glitch, which was an upgrade to the app, screwed it up for the entire fleet. And because they're all so dependent upon it, no one has a sectional plate, no one has any...you have... Yeah, yeah, it's a big problem. It's the technology problem. Everyone believes that the shit works.

1:43:28 That's the problem. That's the meta problem. Oh, it's technology. It'll work forever. No. It doesn't work at all. Do you have a clip? No, I don't. But I've got a couple of things with clips. Okay, good. There was a report that came out on school effectiveness. And this is the cool school effectiveness 2014 clip and I have a proof that this is nothing new clip. And American kids still don't know that much about history or civics or geography for that matter. The education department said today that in 2014 only a quarter of eighth graders showed solid performance in those subjects. That's little change since the last national assessment in 2010. Well, you know, I don't think this is anything new. In fact, it was to the point in the 60s that you'd have this. This is the school effectiveness of the 60s.

1:44:28 Don't know much about history. Don't know much about biology. Don't know much about a science book. Don't know much about the French I took. But I do know that I love you. Nice. Very good, John. I like that. Good one. That was like in the society to such an extent that we're singing about it. Which brings us... Wait, wait, wait, before you do that. Last night at the Star Party, Sherry was there. Sherry runs the crystal class that I took. So of course she would be there at the Star Party. And she said that she, and she's in her late 20s I think, that she had taken astronomy in high school and she doesn't think they actually ever looked through a telescope.

1:45:18 That is that's education for you right now. Wow. Yeah. Nice. Well, meanwhile, I was listening to some of the NPR stuff in there and there's a bunch of there's an undercurrent besides Elizabeth Warren. There's actually an undercurrent of Jerry Brown. No moonbeams. And he's getting like he's doing big stories. I started to notice this, but play the Jerry. We're just Jerry, not the Jerry Brown 79, but this Jerry Brown clip. California Governor Jerry Brown today ordered the state's greenhouse gas emissions to be slash 40 percent below 1990 levels by 2030. Brown called it the most aggressive benchmark enacted by any government in North America. Measures to enforce the cuts will be worked out over the next year.

1:46:05 So I'm thinking is Brown maybe even thinking about this because it's always been assumed and he tried it once before because when he was governor in the 70s, he was always seen as a presidential guy. And again, we have this sort of example of what people were thinking back then about the guy. I will be fearer one day I will command all of you, the kids of America!

1:47:03 Is of course the dead Kennedy's yes 1979 And here I thought you were only a Green Day fan. I'd like this. I really like what you've done here. Oh good Thank you. That's really good. Just showing you there's always in there. It's always there's nothing It's just yeah, it's just cycles. It's all the same thing over again every single day Yeah, as sad as it sounds Okay, a couple things we can catch up on. This, during the ultimate distraction of Baltimore, something was found. There is other news today, including this, the developments in the IRS targeting scandal. A watchdog has found thousands of missing Lois Lerner emails. Treasury's inspector general for tax administration says it found about 6,400 emails in 2004.

1:47:58 Uh-oh. Oops. Oops. Oops. Oops. Oh. Yes, I have the... I thought when I heard this story I said, oh finally Adam can shut up. about the lost videotape of the Boston bombing? Of the Boston bombing guy. And let's see, where is this clip? I got too many clips so I can't keep track. Unseen video, I'll guess. Unseen video. Here it is. To Boston tonight, the penalty phase deciding whether bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev should live or die. And tonight right here, the video never seen before shown in that courtroom today. Tsarnaev pacing in his holding cell. Jurors then shown what he does next straight to that camera.

1:47:03 Is of course the dead Kennedy's yes 1979 And here I thought you were only a Green Day fan. I'd like this. I really like what you've done here. Oh good Thank you. That's really good. Just showing you there's always in there. It's always there's nothing It's just yeah, it's just cycles. It's all the same thing over again every single day Yeah, as sad as it sounds Okay, a couple things we can catch up on. This, during the ultimate distraction of Baltimore, something was found. There is other news today, including this, the developments in the IRS targeting scandal. A watchdog has found thousands of missing Lois Lerner emails. Treasury's inspector general for tax administration says it found about 6,400 emails in 2004.

1:47:58 Uh-oh. Oops. Oops. Oops. Oops. Oh. Yes, I have the... I thought when I heard this story I said, oh finally Adam can shut up. about the lost videotape of the Boston bombing? Of the Boston bombing guy. And let's see, where is this clip? I got too many clips so I can't keep track. Unseen video, I'll guess. Unseen video. Here it is. To Boston tonight, the penalty phase deciding whether bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev should live or die. And tonight right here, the video never seen before shown in that courtroom today. Tsarnaev pacing in his holding cell. Jurors then shown what he does next straight to that camera.

1:48:59 The prosecution arguing it proves he is unrepentant. heard of somebody else seeing but it's never been they claim to have. Well hold on let's just play the evergreen from the governor of Massachusetts. Is there anything on the videotape that maybe the public hasn't seen about his reaction that was particularly telling that move the investigation along?

1:49:39 Well, the videotape is not something I've seen. It's been described to me in my briefings. But it does seem to be pretty clear that this suspect took the backpack off, put it down, did not react when the first explosion went off, and then moved away from the backpack in time for the second explosion. pretty clear about his involvement and pretty chilling, frankly. Lies! Lies! You lie! Well he's not lying actually because it was described to him. He's telling the truth. Yeah. So that, but not his description is just secondhand.

1:50:26 But the narrative and we've noticed this before pretty clear by your side missing there You haven't seen this before this is the video you haven't seen and they show some from inside a store They show something about inside the cell and now this one, but it's always the video you haven't seen I think it is to into drum in the public's. Oh, yeah. I knew that yeah, there was a video somewhere Yeah, let me think there was a video that proved he was guilty and we didn't get to see it There's a video. Oh now they're gonna show us a video that we haven't seen this must be it but as we know The entire case was immediately thrown to the wolves, really. His lawyer, her entire, pro bono lawyer, her entire mission is to get people off of death row and life imprisonment. That is her mantra, that is her reputation, that's what she does. So she's guilty on everything, and now it's only about her own ego.

1:51:19 of getting this kid not killed. Which I think is sad because this would be the one. This would be the premiere episode of our death reality series. It would be great. We already have the camera inside, he's pacing, he's flipping off. Will he be killed? And then of course we should vote for him to be killed because that's what we all love. I just want to show it on TV. We got the drugs are a problem again. Have you been hearing of, you know, there's always a shortage of this drug to kill people? We asked because the drug companies, they didn't make the drug to kill people and then they got irked when people were buying it for that purpose. But what's interesting is even that drug, but obviously not an American company.

1:52:02 No, because we love that. How many gallons do you want? Right. So now the converse... I didn't have any clips of it, I was just kind of tuning into it on the sideline, that it actually... these drugs or the drugs they're using now, they, you know, they keep you quiet, they put you to sleep, but they don't actually kill you right away. And the funny thing is, the most efficient way of killing someone is by beheading them. It really is the most efficient way to do it. Well, I think a guillotine. Yeah, guillotine. Now the gas chambers no longer use... Or to modernize, use some sort of laser weapon like they use in James Bond. Yeah, yeah. Or like, yeah, like a light saber. Yeah. Think about the merchandising. The lightsaber should be introduced as an idea. Not an idea, as a merchandising moment. Get your official U.S. Marshals lightsaber

1:53:00 Chop off their heads. So we're a bunch of pussies here. Pussies! We're willing to let someone we want to have die to suffer, instead of just doing it quick because, I don't know, gas chamber reminds us of the Holocaust. Oh, can't do that! Pussies. Uh, Jade Helm 15. Uh, which I think we've correctly debunked and we'll keep our eye on it, but this Walmart closing has nothing to do with it. But the actual exercise is of course taking place. But Adam, but Adam, the Walmart store, somebody has penetrated one of the stores and the shelves are empty. And there will soon be trailers around the perimeter, you know, with workmen to do the remodeling. It's real! So Jade Helm 15 is a

1:53:48 an actual exercise, and the exercise is without doubt disturbing as it appears to be, and the document's everywhere so people can read up on this, it's in the show notes. It appears to be an exercise in urban warfare. And so this question now, finally we have a little script and as we know these are scripted questions. Everybody knows what's coming. Josh Earnest is the spokesman for the White House. He knows it's coming. And there is a question about Jade Helm 15. I've read about this. Okay, so 1,200 special operations forces over eight weeks. Some of them traveling kind of incognito in these states. So the governor of Texas has ordered the National Guard to monitor this exercise to make sure that the civil liberties and constitutional rights of Texans are not going to be infringed. Is this paranoia, is this concern justified? Has it been conveyed to the White House in any way? Can you explain what the purpose of the exercise is?

1:54:45 Why people should or shouldn't be concerned? So, good question. It's clearly scripted, set up so that we can explain it. Now, of all the things that they could do in this operation, we're talking about a police force. a militarized police force, military pretty much, military forces, call it that. A military force coming into cities and they will be in cities and they will be doing flyovers and all kinds of stuff like that. Do not be alarmed citizen. But what is actually going to happen, what they're going to do as Josh Unas explains, frightens me more. Well, I'll say a couple things. My understanding is that the individuals who are participating in the exercise won't be traveling incognito, that they'll be wearing armbands. That's enough for me.

1:55:30 Hile! Armband, armband, armband, yes! Will they have an insignia on the armband? Wow. Will citizens be asked to wear stars? Uh, little yellow stars? Hey, fuck that, Ernest. That's funny. I'm- I miss that somehow. Of course, the news media didn't pick up on it. Armbands. They should be wearing armbands. With what? With a little Obama logo? Or what is it? What- An art band with an Obama logo would be dynamite. That would be fantastic. Hile, everybody! Hile. Nice and colorful and friendly, it's eco-friendly logo. Unless there's any more to the clip. But what I would do is I would encourage you to check with the Department of Defense that's conducting the exercise. Oh yeah, but why bother with anyone else? It's the Defense Department, we can't look at that. And they can explain to you what the goal of the exercise is, what sort of, what practices and capabilities will be conducted in the conduct of this particular exercise.

1:56:30 The thing that I will, that I can say without having a lot of detailed knowledge about the particular exercise is that in no way will the constitutional rights or civil liberties of any American citizen be infringed upon while this exercise is being conducted. Okay. It would be great if the president said, Heil everybody! Let's talk about the armband. I mean, that would just, that would make my day. That would really, really complete everything, really, really. And then there's one other thing that is happening in the Supreme Court right now is, I guess, are they in deliberation yet about the same-sex marriage? Is that where they're at? I don't know where it stands. I think the last time... You know, C-SPAN actually plays some of these deliberations. Yes, I have a clip from that. And there's no video because it's only audio from the Supreme Court. No, it's just I...which again...check the calendar.

1:57:24 Why don't we have video? There's some reason for it. I don't know what it is. I don't think... are there photos even of this when the court is in session? You have to have a guy drawing. Hello 2015. Quick clip here. This is Justice Alito. I would say he's... is he a conservative judge? Is he a... I think so. I think so too. And he... I like it when there's a little joke. A little jokey there is kind of fun. So the question is, or this particular piece of the debate is, well if you allow same-sex marriage, what else can you allow? And what can you not allow? And Justice Alito, kind of like he's a Fox News

1:58:12 correspondent comes up with an example. It would have been on the five or something, I don't know, but he makes a good joke out of it. These are four people, two men and two women. It's not the sort of polygamous relationship, polygamous marriages that existed in other societies and still exist. So he's saying how would it work if we have two women and two men who all want to be married to each other? a four-way marriage. For some reason he made this up, but then here's the joke. Some societies today, and let's say they're all consenting adults, highly educated, they're all lawyers. What would be the ground under the logic of the decision you would like us to hand down in this case? What would be the logic of denying them the same right?

1:59:03 Yeah, he nailed her on that one. Hold on, a little more. It's just interesting. Recognizing that is a substantial break, maybe it's a good one. So, this is no... Why is that a greater break? The question is one of, again, assuming it's within the fundamental right, the question then becomes one of justification. I assume that the states would come in and they would say that there are concerns about consent and coercion. If there's a divorce from the second wife, does that mean the fourth wife has access to the child of the second wife?

1:59:59 There are issues around who is it that makes the medical decisions, you know, in the time of crisis. I assume there'd be lots of family disruption issues setting aside issues of coercion and consent and so on that just don't apply here. What we're talking about two consenting adults who want to make that mutual commitment for as long as they shall be. Yeah. Well, can I say something first? Please, please, please. In the 80s, when I was writing op-eds for the San Francisco Examiner, I wrote, and I still think this way, I don't see any reason whatsoever why you can't have polygamous situations where you have one guy married to three women, one guy married to a guy and two women, which is what he described. Or one woman married to three guys. One woman married to five guys or any of these things. The reason they don't look, I mean, besides it being Mormon, so that's, to some people, reason enough, it shouldn't be a good idea, but the reason they don't like it is because of what

2:00:52 she kind of described at the end as the nightmarish. legal situation with one guy breaking up. We say you got the four like they were describing there. You have one of the four wants to get divorced from one of the four, but not all of the four. And so she's going to be married to two of them instead of three of them. And then when the taxes cut time comes, she doesn't want to pay her share to the group that's filing. And it's mostly a convenience for the state Then it's not a convenience for the public, it's a convenience for the state because it becomes nightmarish, the paperwork. And I think it's a good point and I think it's...why not? Yeah, I'm in agreement. There's no reason why the government needs to be involved in marriage anyway. Who looks out... Yes, there is. Taxes. Yeah, there you go. There you go.

2:01:50 And the funny thing is, you know, federal, we're waiting on some federal decision, who gives a shit? The states, there's only 12 or 13 states left that don't recognize it, including the great state of Texas, who also don't recognize weed. So, you know. Yeah, they probably got more potheads in Texas than California. That Star Party was pretty good. Hey man, that song's great. I heard about you. I'm totally baked. Yes, before we go to our break, I would like to read a little bit from producer Joe who explains the Ottomania issue, why Turkey will not apologize to Armenia. Some very obvious things. I encourage you to read his entire note in the show notes. But first, here is our friend, Cenk Yank. What's his name from the Young Turks? Cenk. Cenk? Is he Armenian?

2:02:49 Yeah, well, yeah, no, he's a Turk. He's a Turk. Right. He's asked on C-SPAN on the call-in show. Well, I've got some clips if you're going to go this way. So you're going to get right to the donations. I just wanted to play with...we discussed what Young Turk is. Young Turk is...and I didn't even interrupt you, so I want you to explain again what is a Young Turk? The Young Turks was a named group that came during the era of the three Pashas. They administered the dying Ottoman Empire in the 1910s to 1920 period. And the Young Turks were part of the group that, if you're going to go with the

2:03:29 right reading of this, that were initiating to get the Christians out of Turkey. And the Christians included the Armenians. Let's talk to Chunk, CEO of the TYT network. Thanks for joining us. Oh, no problem. Thanks for having me. What's a Young Turk? Well, Young Turks is the largest online news show in the world. We're now networked, the TYT network, 30 different channels, largest network on YouTube, about 120 million views on YouTube and Facebook per month. But to your actual question of what a young Turk is, it's a young progressive looking to overthrow the established system. And that's what we're looking to do here. I think Washington is enormously corrupt. So does our audience. So does 91% of Americans. So we're looking to change that. So. So. He forgets to mention the name comes from killers. Roving band of killers.

2:04:25 That's okay chunk. Well. He thinks of himself as that sort of guy so the Germans I wanted to the producer Joe email can do that quick before you know I see your clips here. They're gonna flow in perfectly So producer Joe wrote a very eloquent piece, but I don't know if you were cut oh you weren't copied on it specifically What the issue is why the Turks why Turkey will not apologize for the Armenian genocide? And please read the whole thing. I'm picking out two things that are of interest one

2:05:02 he said, you know, making an apology, it's not like just putting on a sad face and going, oh, I'm so sorry, because you have to have monuments, plaques, museums, you got to, and of course, reparations. The minute that happens, everybody wants to have money. And the Germans have paid, in today's money, billions in reparations still going on today. Greece still demanding money from the Germans for World War II. That's valid. You can't just say, oh, we're sorry because you open up a can of worms that is unbelievable. And this is the one that blew me away and I'm mad that I didn't see it. Time to get out the map, people. Take a look at what lies on the other side of Armenia. You have Turkey, Armenia, and then any guesses? Well, you got Syria up there. How about Azerbaijan?

2:05:53 Alright, so you got Azerbaijan and they want to have the complete Azerbaijan connection which would have to run through that territory Pipeline pipeline. Yeah that when I saw that one, uh, we can't have that country everything being official and recognized and all this we can't do that and then one up around a pipeline now and That's why he also demonized the Kurds with your bogus analysis, you know, these guys, the Kurds did it. Well, here he also did write about the Kurds. So what the government did at the time of the, or the Ottoman Empire did at the time of this genocide, is they gave license to a number of different groups to go and rape, pillage, and kill. Amongst them were the Kurds. So yes, Kurds were a part of it, but they weren't the only ones by any means. Please read this. It's way too long to read on the show.

2:06:49 beautiful, beautiful explanation. And if anyone wants to comment on it, or, you know, or refute anything, we'd love to hear it. But it's now since you mentioned the Kurds, which is part of a litany that came across only recently, I'm now have to look at this and maybe debunk it as it may be because the Turks are ridiculously all in on the old on their story. And let's play this, the Germans have decided to say, okay, we give up, we're not going to support the Turks arguments anymore, we know better, and we're going to recognize this as a genocide, which is really the issue. I don't think the apology is so much of the issue as the usage of the term, which may or may not bring reparations.

2:07:30 uh... into play i'd think that species and that's the issue that there's no international law that i know i have you change the term from uh... massacre to a genocide at all and i had a pass money it's annoying that's what they say is one of the part of the reason i'm not doing it but let's play this visit this is the germans are interesting because they have a there's a schism going on not to bring the pipelines is it could have some do with russian why they're doing this there's a schism in the country between the what is this is in A break. Like a split. Like a chasm? Split. Schism. Break. Split. It's like a split, not a chasm. Okay. Chasm's a hole. It's deep. It's like a schism. Schism. So you have one side. It's like aschism. Taking sides. I'm on this side, you're on that side. All of a sudden, it's a schism. Okay. So the president of Germany and the chancellor of Germany on either side of this argument and the parliament came up with this apology. And by the way, I have never seen the inside of the German parliament

2:08:29 But it's very much, it's modern and I like if the Nazis were still running the place modern, but Mecco modern. It's got a lot of, it's got that open deconstructed look. It's beautiful. By any art standard. Oh, I'm looking at it now. So genocide, Germans, part one's a little long but play. Germany's parliament no longer wanted to follow the official line of Chancellor Merkel's government. Delegates from her own governing coalition launched a resolution that calls the mass killing of Armenians genocide. Berlin expects there will be a political price to pay in Ankara.

2:09:07 Here in Germany, Turkish organizations have already announced demonstrations against what they see as defamation of their Ottoman history. Well, Germany is home, as we indicated, to Europe's largest Turkish population. Some 3 million people in Germany have Turkish roots. Half of them have Turkish citizenship. And many of them share their government's anger at Berlin, saying it's unfairly choosing sides. Some of that displeasure was palpable today at the capital's biggest mosque. I'm looking at that picture, but that also has a vortex dome. Yeah That's pretty new wild and New World Order and the huge eagle whole new world order. Yeah Yeah, I love the Bundes Eagle Yes, man. Well. Yeah, that would look good good on an armband. I'm thinking Play this is the this I think this is some clips. This is number two. I Skipped zero which is a long intro to the whole topic. I

2:10:04 But this is number two. These are the Turks that they talk to and there's a bunch of them. It's the same translator, so it sounds like one guy, but it's a series of people. And you can kind of see him. And you have to remember that the Turks in Germany are a bunch of laborers that came over and they may have settled down. Guest laborers, they were called. Guest laborers. Many became Germans if they could. Most of them are still Turks. But they're all in on the Turkish narrative and they're not going to change their minds. So play Genocide Germans 2. Relations between Germany and Turkey. You can't just go and call it genocide without checking the facts. Germany is a democratic country, isn't it? It's difficult. I don't understand what the German government or President Gauck are getting at. He keeps on meddling in Turkish affairs.

2:10:49 There's no proof that it's true. Nearly everyone here has Turkish roots. The Islamic cemetery that adjoins the mosque was established back in 1866 for the Ottoman Empire. Turkish traditions are taken very seriously, as are Ankara's official positions. We don't think that it was a genocide. That's a false accusation. There are two schools of thought on this. There are historians, even Armenian and Western historians, who show that people died on both sides. Nobody here thinks Ankara will call the massacres a genocide any time soon.

2:11:35 So we'll revisit this again in a year and then a year after that. It's never going to end. These Armenians have long memories. Well, the definition of genocide, the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of particular ethnic group or nation, any way you look at it, that sounds like a genocide to me. Synonyms, mass murder, mass homicide, massacre. They still call it a massacre? Yeah, they'll call it anything but the word genocide. Annihilation, extermination, elimination, liquidation, eradication, decimation, butchery, bloodletting. We know decimation is wrong, by the way. Pogrom? Pogrom, yeah. Pogrom, never heard of that. Oh yeah, that's a... Yeah. Okay, maybe this is it. A synonym for genocide is also holocaust.

2:12:22 Hmm, maybe they don't want to use these words because... Leads to the word Holocaust. Yeah, and that's never good. Yeah, just say Hitler and we're all done. End of conversation. Well, it's, you know, I like the pipeline part. I think that that makes a lot of sense. But after a hundred years, man, what are we doing? I know what we're doing. We're going to take a break. Well, I want to wait before you do that. I want to mention something which is and I think it because we talked about this after the show and you came up with the probably the right answer to all this and I'm going to bring it back into play. By the way, we rarely talk about show topics after the show. No, we rarely do but this one we did because we were doing when you do a what is it a post-mortem you do talk about the show and when you have a topic and you left you dropped the ball. Did I drop the ball? I dropped the ball on something and then I realized that you

2:13:15 that dropped the ball on something you should have or were about to say, should have said, would have said, or could have said. And that is why, because it was the Japanese still were upset with the Chinese. Now you remember. And the Turks won't apologize to the Armenians because, and I'm going to say it, at the end of the day, they still hate them. Yeah, that is it. That is the bottom line. Hatred. Yeah, they hate them. The Turks hate the Armenians and they can make all this bullcrap say anything they want over in Germany when that guy was quoted by saying, this is, how can they say this is a democracy? Well, what's that got to do with anything? They hate them and the Japanese still hate the Chinese. Yes. And that's that. Totally agreed. I'm going to show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun.

2:14:09 I believe the Japanese still hate the Koreans. Yeah, stop the hate people. Stop the hate. That's mutual. Let's just stop the hate. Let's thank a few people for helping us out on show 717. Donald Barofsky in Spokane, Washington. 12345 your favorite number and he of course I read his notes because he sends them by a check on the initial United Federation of planets stationary that's right

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2:16:49 They sent an email in a sad state of affairs. We have to dig that one up. I have the email and 66. I've also put that one in the show notes. Okay, good. Very, very eloquent email. It's under the Baltimore heading and show notes 717.noagendanotes.com. Donald Kuhl in Windham, New Hampshire, 5555. David Dietrich in Round Rock, Texas. Double nickels on the dime along with Josh McDonald. Parts unknown. Double nickels on the dime. Fernando de las Reyes. Now these are people that came in with the May Day special donation of 51. Ah, the palindrome, yes. It's a palindrome. I'm going to read all these folks off. Folks, they must be white.

2:17:32 Sorry? If you say folks, they must be white. Folks. Folks. Starting with Fernando, the white guy. Fernando de las Reyes in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Brandon Stewart in Dallas, Texas. James Moore in San Pablo, California. There's a, I think, a well-managed little guy's city, I could be wrong. Peter, that's where I, let's just talk about them later. Peter Vidor in Carmel, Indiana. Earl Thomas, Sir Earl Nussbaum in Virginia Beach. Earl, Sir Earl. Anyway, Thomas Nussbaum. Jeffrey Gilbrecht in Cordova, Tennessee. Sir Sam Lung in Toronto, Ontario.

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2:19:06 John Aiken in Babson Park, Florida, James Mullen in Franklin, Wisconsin. And he's got a douchebag call out to Diane Sawyer for stereotyping conservatives during the Bruce Jenner interview. You know, that's I didn't I I don't know that we highlighted it, but we did talk about her shocked, shocked I tell you by thinking he's a Republican. We talked about it. We talked about it. What man, Republican male, would turn themselves into or become a woman? It's a funny stereotype. Have you read all the... First of all, number one show in the ratings on the evening. Oh, for sure. And his reality show starts in July.

2:19:58 But here's what I was what do you think the number one show does in total viewers total viewership on? On ABC ABC was ABC, but what day of the week it was? Wednesday Tuesday Tuesday, I think the number one show on a Tuesday, and I should be I would say 15 million six I No, it's not number one then. There's no way. That was the number one in prime time. Six. Well, that was a lousy night because NCIS does 10 and 11 million every time they. Yeah, it was. It was actually funny. It was six million six hundred and sixty six thousand. I kid you not. Seems dubious. Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas. Samuel Liechtenstein in New York City. Pollyo. Pollo. Pollo in Grand Cayman. OK.

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2:26:01 Yeah, I watched it on and off. It's what you do. It's what you do. They have like this, it's actually well written. They, they're kind of ham handed with their tech. You know, they make some errors, but they, you know, they got some, I probably have a consultant that says, nah, it's something else. But they had this little thing where I did look it up afterwards because I didn't, I've never heard of such a thing. But This is the fat kid. There's one fat, this is like a classic team of hackers that work for the government. Includes a fat guy who's obviously, you know, plays a lot of video games and, but he's... A stereotypical. He speaks way too erudite for a real fat programmer. And he had a skinny programmer, fat programmer kind of thing. Anyway, the fat guy's bust into the airport to

2:26:52 tell people to unhook their phones because there's a problem somewhere and it looks like it's in this particular kiosk where people are charging their phones at the airport. FBI! Everyone unplug! That, I'm done! FBI! Everyone unplug! Yeah, that's gonna work. Oh man. FBI! Everyone unplug! Your phone is down! Hey, don't unplug my phone. It's dead. Tell me something, sir. Have you ever heard of juice jacking? No, and I don't care to.

2:27:29 You see this cord? It charges your phone, right? Nice, safe, you think it's your friend. But you see this connector on the end? Yeah, it's a USB plug. Not exactly groundbreaking stuff, guy. Maybe this will impress you. Most people don't realize that this cord has four ports. Two for power, which charge your phone, and two for data, which transfer... Yes, you guessed it, your data. Now, what do you think your phone was doing just now? Guy? Charging. Wrong. Stealing your data. You just wanted to charge and you had no idea that a hacker had installed a juice-jacking device that allows him to steal your credit cards, your photos, your videos, everything on your phone.

2:28:15 Now, if you just go get in line and talk to that short gentleman trying to pull off the purple paisley tie, he's going to take the malicious script off your phone for you. Problem solved. Thank you. I was not familiar with this, but I see there's lots of information about it. It's pretty obscure and in public places You have to have a machine mounted at the charging station. Yeah, well the charging station could be in the kiosk. And it's generally used to...I was thinking about the use for this idea. And the idea is you plug in, you think you're hooked to a charging station and it's not. It's a computer on the other side, then it lights up your machine. If you have, I guess, the right software to make this work, you can just suck off the information off the phone. The way he put it, it sounds like...why would you do this? In my case, because I was thinking about it.

2:29:14 What would it do to my phone? I don't have anything. I don't have credit cards on it. He says credit cards. There's no credit cards on 99.9% of phones that I know of. Do you have a credit card? You're all your credit card data on your phone. Do you? I know I have well, yes, I have one card for the Apple pay, which I've been testing. So technically, yes. Okay, well, that's that's I would never do that. Yeah, but I'm all in. I'm all in. And you know what? And you know what? Nothing's happened. Of course. All I get all I get is, hey, I saw you on a dating website, you look really hot, give me a call. That's what's happened ever since I've been all in on this crap. I get bogus dating invites. So I'm thinking what could be the main use for this? What you do is it seems to me if I was doing it, running this scam and I could have access to everyone's phone, I would just take every contact list I could get and turn into a giant spamming list. That's all you can do with it. Interesting you bring that up. Let me finish just for people out there.

2:30:16 You can buy a charge only USB cable if you're fearful. Well, I wanted to say that the iPhone 6, if it detects a computer, It asks you specifically if you want to trust this computer. That's new. I had not seen that before. Usually you would never do that. I had the iPhone, I had the four. That's when I stopped after that. You plug it in and iTunes opens, everything starts sinking. It's completely no good. But now it actually asks you, cause I plugged it into the desktop here and I just wanted to charge it and wanted to transfer. So that, that does ask you.

2:30:59 I was gonna say something else now, I don't...though I do see a Krebs on security note about this from 2011. Howard Baetjer Yeah, I never heard...I don't think this is a plague because I never heard of it until I watched this show. John Ligato But I like the name juice jacking. Howard Baetjer I like juice jacker. It sounds like somebody who goes into Jamba Juice and steals drinks. John Ligato It sounds like something for the month of May is what it sounds like to me. And along with that... Yeah, I know. So if you were talking about you would steal the contact list, interesting you mentioned that Facebook has shut down the Friends data API. And I'm pretty sure I know why. It's because every single app in the universe that you install, the first thing it does is it says, oh, we're going to take your contacts. And I think Facebook is seeing that their true value is being the Rolodex of the universe.

2:31:52 and having everybody's contact data. And they're shutting that down now. They may sell it at a cost, but you're not gonna be able to just get it out with an app anymore. Nah. Yeah? Yeah, wise. Yeah. I think the contact lists are valuable. I was always very protective of it. I'm like, fuck it. Everyone else is sending my name everywhere. Screw you. Here, take it all. I don't care. Okay. That's what LinkedIn did right away. Link into wider right away. It takes my it says would you install the app we're taking your contact list? Oh, so actually it says find other people you know and you say yes to play that yeah, you say yes, and it goes scanning your contacts, but Uploading your contacts what I don't guess why don't I don't care because big data doesn't work. It's poopoo doo-doo

2:32:48 It's a pipe dream. It's not going to make any difference. What will make a difference, man, have you seen that Apple Watch commercial? You have to see this commercial. There's no audio, no spoken word in it. It's like a living in Gattaca, the movie Gattaca. It's slave bracelet and people are all happy. Oh yes, poop going to my hotel room. Poop I'm paying with. Poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop. Slave bracelets, slave jewelry as predicted. Although, yeah, when Lindsay Lohan got her slave anklet. Right, about three years ago on the show, we probably did a month or two of these companies that make these little bright anklets that you wear so you know they can see where you are all the time. You know, it's for, you know, if you're drunk, if you're a drunk

2:33:38 I was at some event, I think it was in Florida, where they were having a coincident convention at the hotel. with the event I was at and it was all these companies that sell these things. And I got to talk and chat with all these guys and it was pretty funny actually because they were so oblivious to the nature of the business they were in. Yeah, this thing, this has a longer battery life. They were a big concern.

2:34:15 Yeah, slave bracelets. And if you watch some of these tech shows, and not just the one that you watch and I go on, but just all of them. You can spend your whole time talking about this watch from Apple. I know. Everybody. It's not one or two guys. It's everybody. Well, it's not just Apple. It's also the big companies. I was actually, I'm preparing a daily source code. I know it's been a while, particularly because of the sorry ass sad state of affairs in all technology journalism. But I finally heard Molly Wood on the NPR show. No, she finally got a segment in. Yeah. And I was in the car, so I didn't clip and I forgot to do it.

2:35:03 This is a money show and she was at the Microsoft Developers Conference and she hasn't done VocalFry yet, so she's still Molly the way we know her. But then the guy, the host, he says, you know, Microsoft, he said they have But he's like they have a bajillion dollars and they're ginormous. He said in one sentence an NPR money show Yes that by Jillian by enormous good Jillian. I got it. I'll got a clip it for Sunday It was like how can you take yourself seriously and you certainly make Molly look stupid?

2:35:41 By enormous ginormous with guy millions of dollars lame-o And since we're doing tech news without the jingle I'm very happy to announce that the FCC It looks like they're going to have a comment period they will be releasing the 2200 meter band for amateur use nice it is nice because this is Tesla stuff this is propagation through Earth You know, one watt and you can go transatlantic. It's, I mean, you do need a, you know, 200 meters of antenna. Yeah, you know, you need an antenna a mile long. Low by the ground, but yeah, it's exciting. I love that stuff. So finally we can do more than just a bit to my experimental license. And you have to have a, what do you have to have to be able to qualify to go on there and play around? Yeah, well, you need at least general.

2:36:35 And just a tip for everybody, with the Nepal disaster, amateur radio operators have created a communications bridge between the local hams who are using VHF, so that's FM like in the 400 megahertz. spectrum, that's more point, you know, line of sight. They're using that because really there's no communications. And on 14.205 MHz is the emergency frequency. And it's pretty interesting. And you can, if you go to websdr.com, W-E-B-S-D-R.com, then just click on the first link there, it's the Dutch receiver, and you get a little radio and you can tune it to 14.205 and you can listen in.

2:37:23 And it's a now it mainly consists of guys going stay off this frequency. This is an emergency frequency emergency I haven't heard a lot of sounds right We're trying to keep this frequency clear trying to keep it clear for emergencies And then what is it web SDR webs software-defined radios that I'd try I got it took me web I'll try it again W ebsdr.com web sdr.com s Sierra I get store hp.com every time. Hold on, maybe it's .org. I mean the HP store. Web sdr, I thought it was maybe it's .org, hold on a second. I could be wrong. I'm sorry, .org. Thank you. Thank you for checking that. Then you see the top one which is from the University of Twente and Schede. And that's the one of the first and it's really powerful.

2:38:20 And then you get the spectrum and then in that frequency box just highlight that and just type in 14.205. You can do .00 but you don't have to. And you'll start hearing it. 14.205? and hit return. I'll listen to that later. Yeah, well I can tell you what you're going to hear. Yeah, get off the frequency people. Keep off that frequency man. We can't have this. Brought this up in the tech news segment. So I get this press release from some operation that's

2:38:57 one of the fronts for net neutrality. What is it, the tech freedom? Which one was it? I don't remember. I'd have to go to my... FTF, FTF, t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t Kind of phenomenon is going on right now. This is the torrent app the peer-to-peer Have you have you been able to use it? I haven't been able to get any music I haven't really tried to use it yet because there's nothing on there I wanted to watch but I should probably check it out whatever the case and I said that I said it and I meant it the

2:39:45 They were blasting the guy. So I decided to, you know, because I call congressmen and senators offices all the time to get a hold of the chief of staff or somebody who I can get a hold of. Yeah, please explain how this works. You've mentioned this before on the program in the past, and I think it's very valuable. And I wish certainly Americans in Gitmo Nation would do this more often. uh... in the congressional offices they get all you get their numbers effortlessly ever answer of course because they get staff to do the answering and you could talk to them for a few minutes introduce yourself tell me who you are what you want to talk to him about and then uh... listener tell you to get lost

2:40:20 So I decided to call, because I have all these net neutrality columns that I've written here and there, and I was gonna turn them on to them because there's good arguments in there if Paul has to defend himself in some debate situation. So I figured I'd help him. This, by the way, is what a good citizen does. What a good citizen does. And so I call and get an answering machine. They don't even have enough people to answer the phone at this Washington office. Do you think it was an answering machine or voicemail? It was an answering machine. Well, I don't know what the mechanism was. It could have been... But it was the analog equivalent of an answering machine. Got it. Because it had the beep and everything.

2:41:02 So, they said, no, we're not taking anybody's calls, and if you want to do something, go to the website and send some email, which is like that, just ineffective. So, I left a message, not a long message, but a short, detailed message saying who I was and what might be useful for them. gave a number and an email address and that was, you know, a while back and I never heard back. They're ineffective. They suck. They're stupid. They're dumb. That's actually... This guy running for president is a joke. All over this. It is not how it's supposed to work. These are... They should be listened... They represent the people, but yet they don't want to talk to the people.

2:41:46 Yeah, well most of them are glad to, at least the staff is glad to chat, but these guys, they got a firewall against you, can't talk to the staff. So I'm lost. Sorry. Well, thank you for trying. Thank you for your courage. I tried. Okay, I have one last series. I don't know if you had a chance to see it. It was emailed to both of us. And when I saw this, I thought, oh, it's dynamite. Two shorter clips and one long clip, but it's well worth listening to. Robert F. Kennedy. And he is...now, is he the junior? He is the son of Bobby Jr., brother of... I think he's the little kid. Yeah, I think he is. Robert Kennedy's kid, I think. And we have scoffed at him previously when we had the organized so-called spontaneous Climate Day march in New York.

2:42:39 And he's all in on climate change, all in, which is disturbing when you're about to hear this because some sense is coming out. We also made a joke about his voice, but I believe he had throat cancer. So that was inappropriate. We apologize. It's inappropriate, but it's still notable. But I will say because of his voice, his verbal problems... Yeah, Robert F. Kennedy and Ethel Kennedy's kid. Right. Yeah, he's always been big in the special... I've met him! There you go. I met him at a Kleiner Perkins dinner once before we banged some of the girls in the office. Just kidding. But he's all in the Special Olympics, right? Nice guy. And he's all in on climate change, but he comes on Bill Maher's show and he's promoting a movie which you definitely need to see and I think there's a book associated with it and it's about Thymerosal, the mercury hamburger helper

2:43:34 in vaccines. And that is not mentioned, by the way, but... Dr. Kahne Walters I thought that Thimerosal was a preservative, not a helper. Dr. Justin Marchegiani I'm sorry, you're right. It's a preservative. What was the other thing was the preservative? Dr. Kahne Walters I remember the other one we used to talk harp on. I don't remember the name of it, unfortunately. Dr. Justin Marchegiani So there's still a lot of mercury as a preservative in vaccines. Here's the intro. I'm gonna play this in three clips. Here's the intro. And he didn't get to sit at the table. This was the opening segment where he sits down, kind of the opening interview. And of course, this is a, you know, he comes from a legacy of the Democrat Party, yet he seems to be against vaccines, which he isn't really, but the information he gives is very interesting to hear from this person in this setting, and we'll see how it is responded to. Here's the intro.

2:44:22 Okay, so I saw you have a full-page ad that you printed in USA Today about this issue, the Marisol, which is the preservative, the mercury-based preservative in vaccines. We'll get to that in a second, but I want to put it in context. You are one of the greatest environmental crusaders we've ever had, so I'm assuming... I don't think anyone would dispute that. So, your history with mercury goes back a long way. I mean, you're into the vaccine thing now, but you've gotten it out of rivers, right? I got dragged into the vaccine issue, kind of kicking and screaming, because I was going around the country suing coal-burning power plants and talking about the dangers of mercury coming from those plants.

2:45:08 And almost everywhere I stopped or I spoke, there were women there, very eloquent, articulate, grounded people who were saying, look, you have to look at the biggest vector of mercury in American children now is coming from vaccines and we need you to look at the science. I like this a lot because what he did hear is he said, it's not your typical kook on a podcast. You know, it's eloquent women, very smart. Whenever you need to just say eloquent women, educated, eloquent women. Oh, we're all in. Good move by him. And I resisted for a long time, but I started reading the science after a while. And I am very comfortable reading science. I've brought hundreds and hundreds of successful lawsuits, almost all of them.

2:45:59 have involved scientific controversy. So I'm good. I'm comfortable reading science and dissecting it and discerning the difference between junk science and real science. And when I started looking at it, what I saw was very alarming, which we were giving huge amounts of mercury to our children. A lot of it has been taken out of vaccines, but there's still an extraordinary amount still in the vaccines, and particularly the flu vaccine. In particular, the flu vaccine. very... and then Mar did not respond to that at all. Now, this is a long segment, but I really wanted to play this thing in its entirety. What you will hear is very smart. I don't know, he seems to be all in on vaccines itself, but he gives a lot of data about a lot of problems that have occurred with children, and his solution is, let's get the mercury out of the vaccines,

2:46:54 But listening to the data that he presents, there's a lot of interesting things that we have discussed for years on this program. We spent three years looking at scientific literature and the scientific literature is virtually unanimous, Bill, about the dangers of thimerosal. and the links between thimerosal and the epidemic of neurological disorders that are now afflicting American children. ADD, ADHD, speech delay, language delay, hyperactivity disorder, ASD, and autism. He pulled out the autism.

2:47:28 And you would have expected Mar to jump all over him, but there's some respect. Which began in 1989, which was the year that they changed the vaccine schedule. And we've seen animal studies, toxicological studies, clinical studies, cadaver studies. They all say that you're not anti-vax. You vaccinate. You're a pro vaccine, right? You just want to get the mercury. All my kids. I had all my kids vaccinated. I want to see government policies that promote full coverage vaccines. vaccines. The only way to do that is to have safe vaccines and to have a credible regulatory process with regulators with integrity. And we don't have that today. Now listen to this. Listen, Obama bots are applauding about how, yes, you're speaking truth to power. But really, this has been the narrative of the conversation all along is vaccines seem to be causing autism and other neurological diseases.

2:48:27 But somehow if you're a Kennedy and you present it, you know, like I'm not anti-vax. What kind of word is that? But I just don't want people to kids to die. Anti-vax is a buzzword for Republican douchebag. Right. I mean a lot of the movie that I saw is about how the CDC is corrupt. But even if the CDC is corrupt, why is the World Health Organization and the National Academy of Sciences and the American Pediatrician Society? I think this is hilarious. I don't have this. I'm shocked. I'm shocked there's corruption in the World Health Organization.

2:49:04 Really, Bill Maher? And scientists from other countries, why are they lining up on the other side of the issue? Well, the CDC really kind of controls the field. And CDC, and you know, there's a... Well, let me explain what's happening at CDC because, and you can see how it is pervasive in these other bureaucratic institutions. There's been four separate scathing federal studies about the CDC and all of them by the United States and the United States Congress, the Inspector General of HHS and the Office of Research Integrity last year. They paint a picture of CDC as a cesspool of corruption, as an organization that's been completely taken over by the vaccine industry. Have we seen this report anywhere?

2:49:53 anywhere, John? Have you heard of this government report? John Maass No, I haven't heard about it. But of course, we need to get a copy. David Morgan Yeah. This is pretty... Well, we have seen the collusion with scientists and the World Health Organization with the swine flu. I'll let him continue. John Maass By the vaccine industry. And there's two divisions at CDC where the corruption is most important. The first is the division that chooses which vaccines to add to the schedule. So when you and I were kids, we got three to five vaccines. My kids got 16, 57 inoculations from 16 vaccines. This is the kind of data that people need to be hearing about.

2:50:39 Because, you know, we all, oh, but Bill Maher, of course, I got vaccines, I didn't die. But look at what's on the schedule now and what's coming. Why did that happen? Why are new vaccines added to the schedule? We know the answer, don't we, John? Money. And there are 271 new vaccines in the CDC pipeline. that are due to be added to that schedule. In 1989, it suddenly became very, very lucrative to put a vaccine on the schedule. Oh, what have we discussed for years on this program? What happened in 1989? Well, I believe that's at least a period in which they were, the liability laws were changed regarding these folks.

2:51:21 Because the year before... I should say thugs. Yeah, thugs is correct. These drug company thugs. The year before, Congress made it illegal for Americans to sue vaccine companies no matter how badly injured they were from the vaccines. They gave them a shield against any liability. Suddenly, vaccines became very, very lucrative. And so you've got the federal government ordering 200 million people to buy your product, there is no advertising, no marketing, and you can't be sued. What a great business! Shit yeah! USA! USA! So those new vaccines worth a billion dollars a year to some of these companies.

2:52:03 We would hope that the people who add those vaccines to the schedule would be kind of geeky science types who are only concerned with human health. But that's not how it works. Most of them are vaccine industry insiders. And I'm going to give you an example. In 1999, Dr. Paul Offit, who's the consummate vaccine... Yeah, I've seen him on TV, sure. And he is the leading voice face for the vaccine industry. He sat on one of these committees that added the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule. And he owned a rotavirus patent. So six years later, he was able, and he voted, he didn't recuse himself.

2:52:45 He voted to add them to the schedule. Six years later, he sold his patent for $182 million. He told Newsweek that it was like winning the lottery. So, the Inspector General's report said that 64% of the people who sit on those committees have the same kind of conflicts that Dr. Offit had and that as many as 97% of them may have those conflicts because they didn't fill out their conflict disclosure forms. There you go. That's the meat of what he said. I liked most of that. I'm not necessarily all in on it. I like the way Mar has. She's like, oh great. Well, I do have one shorter clip. This is Mar tried to be, tried to rebut or tried to, he made no sense and actually sounded like an incredible a-hole.

2:53:37 You tell me what you think he's trying to say in this, but it sounded to me like this is a very typical Obama bot and remember he gave a million dollars to the Obama re-election pack. Just a very strange comeback to this which shows that there is no real comeback to the way Kennedy explained this. Why can't we have kind of a grand bargain on this. It just seems like we're calling each other kooks and liars and it seems like... No, that would be you calling all Republicans and people like Andrew Wakefield kooks and liars. I don't think it really comes from the other side. ...and liars and it seems like common sense that vaccines, I mean even the Marisol, probably don't hurt most people. I mean if they did we'd all be dead because there weren't a lot of vaccines that we all took. But some do.

2:54:25 Obviously some minority get hurt by this stuff. I don't understand why this is controversial. Why we have this emotional debate about something that there is science there. It astounds me that liberals who were always suspicious of corporations, and you just laid out that case, and defending minorities, somehow when it comes to this minority that's hurt, it's like, you know what, shut the fuck up. And let me take every vaccine that Merck wants to shove down my throat. What is he trying to say? Wow, that's a good one. It's like a non sequitur. It's like he's saying one thing and... It sounded like first he was saying, oh, it's just a minority, fuck them. But then he kind of... I have no idea. It was just his mind is scrambled.

2:55:14 I had a clip like that of somebody talking something stupid. Isn't that what most of the show is? Yeah, I guess it is. Indeed. I think, unless you got something. Well, I do have one thing. I'm a little annoyed. I'm becoming on the... I'm so all in on this Pope Francis guy. with his, what is it called again? The ecumenical whatever. Yeah, that thing. He, this one has really got me. This is like, why is this an issue? This guy's supposed to be like a spiritual leader and a guy who was trying to translate what God thinks and all the rest of it.

2:55:52 I would like to remind you, when I predicted he would be the Pope, I said this was going to be part of it, part of the socialist agenda, part of the New World Order. But here is your prediction coming true. That's sad. Pope Francis has spoken out in favor of equal pay for women. At his weekly audience in the Vatican, he said the discrepancy in wages was a scandal that Christians should reject. Because we've debunked that whole argument about equal pay on the show, showing the data and this is just a created pile of crap. Right. No one believes us. But why is he, what has he got to do with it? What's love got to do with it? What's love got to do with it? I should play another song. Yeah. I liked your songs, man. You should do more of that. That's very good. That is a perfect way to show, to explain history.

2:56:49 Yeah. I think there's something new going on. It was only the, you know, people don't care about history. The way she went on, I said, ah, that reminds me of a song. Okay, I probably have a couple of things. Nah, we're good. We're gonna save it all. We're good. We're gonna save it all for... The Iranian takes the ship, everyone's all panicked about that, but apparently this involves some legal issue with the owner of the ship owing them money. Well, here's what I'd say to that. No worries, citizen. You'll be safe until Sunday. Don't you think? Safe until Sunday. Safe until Sunday. Fact.

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