Episode 1786 · Thursday, 31 July 2025

Best Exit Strategies

A deep dive into the mechanics of Silicon Valley acquisitions, North Korean VIP travel packages, and the securitization of human behavior through social impact bonds.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 24m listen | 70 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1786

About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak investigate the origins of the Silicon Valley exit strategy, tracing the concept from their early days at Mevio to a hypothetical retirement managing a high-end gentlemen's club. The duo explores a massive $7,000 VIP tourism package for the North Korean Arirang Mass Games, complete with luxury yurts and chartered flights, as a potential pivot for the podcasting industry.

Legal developments take center stage as Harvard graduate Mark Riddell pleads guilty in Boston Federal Court for his role in a $10,000-per-test SAT bribery scheme. Meanwhile, Senator Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming advocates for Bitcoin as a primary retirement hedge, and the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor offers $1.5 million grants for transparency programs in China. The discussion also details the discovery of a 64-meter fatberg in Sidmouth, UK, and the rise of social impact bonds that securitize human behavior data for hedge fund trading.

From the technical strain of performing the Tech Grouch voice to the absurdity of Kraft's grilled cheese-scented incense, the episode captures the eccentricities of modern culture. Adam Curry details the Podcasting 2.0 initiative while mocking the Hug Bubble nursing home innovation and the potential for human-grade kitty litter in schools.


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CHAPTER 01 / 70 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 1786, Podcast Exit Strategy Origins

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1786 of the No Agenda show from Texas and Silicon Valley. They discuss the origins of their "exit strategy" running gag, tracing it back to their early days at Mevio and Podshow. The concept stems from Silicon Valley lingo regarding IPOs and acquisitions, which they adapted to the realization that podcasts have no traditional exit.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· exit strategy· mevio· podshow· silicon valley

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday July 31st 2025 this is your award-winning Get My Nation Media Assassination episode 1786 This is no agenda Looking for the exit and broadcasting almost live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6 In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where I am also almost live I'm John C. Dvorak I know a lot of people are looking forward to this episode for a very long time. Well, you've been high on this episode for some time because it is maybe the funniest episode we've ever played? I really think so and right off the bat i gotta give props to Sir Deenonymous from Clip Genie noagenda.clipgenie.com also known as bingit.io

00:57 Because ever since we introduced bingit.io, it's just been an amazing experience for people to go in and just think of ways that they can put together a best-of show You know what I mean? Especially to put in exit strategy, search. Yeah. Boom! A show. Exactly. And so Circumference John Jensen's Circumference he did exactly that and he put this together a while back you know it's like hey you know i've got a good idea uh when i played some of these uh like the first couple clips for Tina and she doesn't know all of our stuff she's you know she's only been around for 10 years we had seven years before that she knows nothing about

01:45 She was cracking up. She had never heard of it. It is probably ideas Yes, you're right the dumb ideas Exactly but are they really? Are they I think of moneymakers maybe just explain to people I mean do even know how this started how we started looking for exit strategies and I think it started off as a lark. It was a punchline to something one of the other, either you said or I said and one of us said the other one encountered with oh there's an exit strategy because exit strategy is a term that used a lot in Silicon Valley we're both familiar with their lingo

02:25 And so we picked it up and then we started, you know somebody said at first either one of us could have been. I'm not sure but then it became a running gag or... No here's what I think happened and it started early on very early on where were looking at this and saying yeah we're working so because I think that it must have been Mevio must've seen might even been Pod Show days I don't know We must be sitting there now you don't think it was pod show days? Was it Mevio? Yeah. I think we were both talking about, you know, we got this show but How do we punch out of this? You know, it's like the whole idea in Silicon Valley is you have an exit. You got IPO, you're going to get acquired, you're gonna sell... Yeah, exit strategy and yeah, and we realized that there's no way to have an exit strategy for a podcast. You just do it until you die or at least some one of us dies! Until you come up with an exit strategy. And the first one we came up with was a doozy

CHAPTER 02 / 70 Discussion

Strip Club Management and Professional Cuddling

A comedic script depicts a hypothetical exit strategy involving the management of a gentlemen's club. The segment features stage introductions for performers including Tracy, Angel Made, and Lillisa 2. The concept involves transitioning from podcasting to the adult entertainment industry as a retirement plan.

strip club· tracy· angel made· lillisa 2· sabine· pensacola· exit strategy

03:25 Get your shorts on, get ready for exit strategy number one. Sometimes he doesn't deliver the packages until like 8.30 in the morning Yeah, same here! Eight or nine they're still working I know Well just because he's stopping off a lot of places This guy looks like he is the worst for wearing He has got at least five or six women that demand him come in for cookies and tea Hey maybe that is our exit strategy That sounds like a good gig Drive around all day in shorts

04:11 Welcome to the in the morning club where you can witness beauty on parade all day and night no touching, please Let's start things off by bringing to the main stage Tracy This gorgeous gal likes to knit fly kites and mountain climb get a load of her peaks. It's Tracy On stage two put your hands together for angel made this lovely lady has that is the 2011 winner of the pole dancing national Nationals held yearly in Pensacola. She's into bookbinding and fishing, let her lure you into a private dance! Inga Mae! Next on the No Gender stage comes everyone's fantasy girl Lillisa 2, the anime poster girl. Those eyes are huge! Give it up for Lily!

04:55 Look you over here coming up to stage three make her welcome put those hands together and give it up for Sabine this princess recently won an amateur night competition at the club rendezvous But as you can see there's no way she's an amateur. Chill on with heart and gratitude boys, It's Sabine Is that it? That's it for good. Good work yeah, I'm it's my exit strategy. I'm gonna work one of these places script I like the script the writing was good this time very nice put music they pump the music into select barrels of whiskey They've got a Michael Jackson barrel The Led Zeppelin barrel and they believe that these sound vibrations expand and contract the wood and then

CHAPTER 03 / 70 Discussion

Musical Whiskey Aging and Blessed Water Production

A discussion explores the practice of playing music to whiskey barrels to influence taste through wood vibrations, specifically mentioning Led Zeppelin and Michael Jackson barrels. A related business idea involves selling "No Agenda Water" blessed by virgins, inspired by theories regarding the effect of human intention on water crystals.

whiskey· led zeppelin· michael jackson· water crystals· no agenda water· exit strategy

05:41 It molds different tastes. The bluegrass and nutcracker ballet barrels are most popular, they test better believe it or not than non-musical whiskey I think that Zeppelin stuff is probably pretty good. Okay... Everybody bought into this one We could do this We could do this. We could make water, just pure water so we can bring in that guy who does the water crystals and when you put a note love underneath the bottle then the crystals look all beautiful if you put a note you know No Note or Hate then the crystals they look all maligned and all deformed And we can have our beautiful wonderful Noah Jenda Water which 17 virgins stood around and said love to for 24 hours I think it's a plan It's our exit strategy

CHAPTER 04 / 70 Discussion

Dog Dazer Mark II and Ultrasonic Smartphone Apps

The hosts evaluate the Dog Dazer II, a handheld device that emits a 25 kilohertz tone to deter dogs. They debate the feasibility of creating a smartphone app version versus a dedicated high-quality keychain device using a piezo speaker. A potential Kickstarter campaign is proposed as a way to bring a branded version to market.

dog dazer ii· ultrasonic tone· smartphone app· piezo speaker· kickstarter· exit strategy

06:34 Yeah, baby exit strategy as pathetic as it sounds it's about the best we got alright everybody We were we would not be the no agenda show if I didn't have a product idea You ready? I'm listening. I just...I'm always listening for this! Now, this product already exists is very effective to make we could make it even as an app i ordered an actual physical product because i don't have a phone with apps anymore um i ordered the dog dazer 2 mark two and this is a small device that emits a 25 kilohertz tone

07:11 of incredible annoyance to the dogs. Yes, they do not like that tone So if I'm in a restaurant there's a dog there it's gonna go on my keychain No one can hear it You cannot hear it If you had spectrum analyzer you could see it If your over 10 years old you can barely hear anything when your 15 Yeah you don't even like your birthday I mean who cares? But I think that this could be the no agenda, you know dog taser or... This is the best idea you've had for months! Now it can be an app. We could make it an app there's tons of apps. I don't know if those little things will play that note? Sure they will yeah. I don't think so what a smartphone? I don't think a smartphone has the speaker that can nail 25 000 hertz. Distance will become a problem for sure distance is a problem

08:05 That's why I like you know just that you need a dedicated the dedicated device weaker. Yeah advice it should be a keychain It's just a key chain and yeah speaker does not have to be that big just has to become high quality get that note piezo and yeah, so Pieza boys I you say piezo I say pH so um sue But I'm very excited about bringing this to market. I think we should do a Kickstarter. This may be our exit strategy What is the long been your assertion which it's now a show assertion at this point it is North Korea Is this trying to set itself up as a tourist attraction? Tourist trap if you will yes, and and this came to you how many years ago five or

CHAPTER 05 / 70 Discussion

North Korea Tourism and VIP Arirang Mass Games

An analysis of North Korean infrastructure suggests the country is preparing for a massive opening to international tourism to ensure economic survival. The hosts propose a high-end travel business selling $7,000 VIP packages to the Arirang Mass Games. The plan includes chartered flights, luxury yurts, and commemorative challenge coins for wealthy travelers.

north korea· kim jong un· arirang festival· tourism· pyongyang· exit strategy

08:50 six years ago at least. The really key thing I felt about the whole journey is that North Korea, I felt as though they were preparing and they wanted to open up to the rest of the world because they've had too. They spent all their money on these missiles and all that, the farming, the agricultural food supplies are very very scarce out in the countryside so now they've got to get something back and therefore they're building great tourist resorts. We saw an airport, an entire airport which is totally empty there were no planes there at all but the airport was built waiting for people to come this tourist resort which it will serve so why build that if they didn't really want tourists in from China maybe from the rest of the world? And they let you see that

09:36 Yes, exactly. They were prepared to talk about that and say we're going to have wonderful things and evidently they had people who'd gone to Disneyland in Paris to look at how you build resorts like that, how you design them so money had been invested in this opening up So it isn't just a political rapprochement I think is something they need for their survival now But when they do open up, then what happens to the sort of regimented Kim family thought? You know that people are going to say well there's a... They'd do it differently in another part of the world. Maybe we should do it differently I just don't know It is very very interesting time I think Pretty much nailed it Oh yeah Fantastic! It was pretty obvious from the get-go That's what they were up too and I still think if they get their act together

10:27 I wouldn't mind having the franchise to sell tickets to that giant spectacular show. Oh yeah, the big show! Once a year you could get $1,000 bucks a seat no problem Well i was thinking about this in our never-ending quest to get out of the podcasting gig and make some real money Another exit strategy Well here's the strategy so we get someone within our network somebody can at least go buy up a block of tickets We need a block of say You know, 50 seats. Maybe if we get 20 we'll take that and then we're gonna do a whole VIP thing So you know We're gonna charter the I mean this is really gonna be millionaires like people who are in the 500 thousand plus category And it's gonna be you know would take care of the whole thing The lodging you have the plane will have our own tents or yurts tonight catering you know a badge

11:24 Yeah, a badge platinum badge. Challenge coin tote bag for the starter price of I think $7000 but if it's a couple then you know then we just do like 12 or something. Just think about it. It's the sweet spot Yeah, so get ready fire up a newsletter and we have the banks who are laundering money drug money typically And then you have the real estate guys like Trump who launder money through what we used to just call commerce Just doing private transactions But now I always think of everything as a crime Who cares? Well. I don't care where you got your money from you want to buy this apartment good here You go So Trump is just laughing his ass off and they hate him for it

CHAPTER 06 / 70 Discussion

Real Estate Money Laundering and Private Aviation

The discussion shifts to the legality of money laundering within the real estate sector, citing Donald Trump's business practices and a 775 million euro fine paid by ING in the Netherlands. One host recounts a personal business failure involving a fractional helicopter ownership company following the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

donald trump· ing bank· money laundering· real estate· 9/11· helicopter company

12:09 And I just read that ING in the Netherlands just paid a 775 million euro claim or fine to the European, I guess the central bank. I don't know where they send it...to the EU for money laundering drug money laundering because they weren't paying close enough attention and to the deposits you see? I did some research on this To figure out how to do money laundering as a real estate guy. You mean some job research? My exit strategy. It turns out it's a good one! It turns out to be a very good one and the reason is because it's essentially legal. Completely legal, you do not have to check the background. So Trump is not breaking any laws by being a money launderer if we want to call him that or even assume we're correct in our assumptions which I believe we are and that is because of restrictions on banks

13:05 taking in cash and not reporting it from drug companies, stuff still powdery is one thing. And you have to do all these reportings for example even when we make a money transfer if I wait way too long and it gets over certain amount that gets reported to the IRS everything you do in a banking environment gets reported real estate no No holds barred. There is nothing and then you can take it some guy can walk in your office if you're a real estate developer with cash, with a million dollars in cash It was very similar to me where I had this...I had lots of money and I had a helicopter fractional ownership company And 9-11 happens like that was the beginning of a long slide no one was using private aviation for awhile after 9 11 That's when he his restaurants

CHAPTER 07 / 70 Discussion

Wine Industry Interviews and No Agenda Stencils

Plans are discussed to interview aging figures in the California wine industry, specifically mentioning a 90-year-old importer named Draper. The segment also references "No Agenda" stencils created by a producer named Darren as a potential branding and promotion tool for the show.

draper· wine industry· california· darren· stencils· exit strategy

13:56 You know, the restaurant he had in some crazy place with a horrible lease and he just tanked on that. A lot of stuff you don't know about that guy! Yeah I did... yeah I had worked on...I spent probably... I had a file open and every once in awhile a question would come to mind so I put it there Hey how many other interesting friends can we interview before they're dead or we are? I got quite a few, i just have to do it. Give me one name that would be interesting Who's a good name that would be in well, I know who would be interesting to me. Uh-huh? I want it do him So just this guy this guy Draper Yes, this guy drapers 90 something he runs her wine He's one of the original wine importers in California and he knows everything about the wine industry should do that and he Finally opened up a small shop because you know, I'm thinking with all these interviews now I got a couple people I can call

14:55 You know, we've got a product. Maybe not. It's our exit strategy! Once again we're gonna get out of this thing rich if it kills us Title of 1071 was Kami-Komi and Darren it was a lot of good art actually yeah, we that was a tough one We liked what Darren had done with the no agenda stencils on the tents which is our latest get rich quick scheme Yeah, there are exit strategy. I'm not quite sure how it's gonna exit us. I think Promoting this show okay? We promote this show once the show has been promoted sufficiently you might get onto iTunes into the charts

CHAPTER 08 / 70 Discussion

Amazon Headquarters Relocation to Fort Worth

The hosts discuss a rumor regarding Amazon moving its headquarters to Fort Worth, Texas. They joke about a breach of secrecy regarding their plan to buy local real estate before the move. The conversation includes a brief mention of a friend's concerns about rising sea levels and climate change.

amazon· fort worth· texas· real estate· lib joe· climate change

15:37 Yeah. Does anyone in Texas think that Fort Worth is a shithole? No, it's actually very beautiful has a great airport and that's where things will be happening Yes, where Amazon's gonna move. I thought that was a secret You swore me to fucking secrecy said we gotta look for some real estate up there as another exit strategy and now you just Because I mentioned to a friend of mine a lib Joe who seems to be worried sick that though He's gonna be swamped under by the rising oceans You should ask him if he has a few hours to listen to my report on climate change it'll change his mind

16:14 It's not that long, it's only an hour. Anyway he is moaning and groaning about this- So you told him about Amazon? You told them our secret! ...it was going to be a great place to move and he says it's a shithole. Wait a minute! This guy said, Lib Joe said Fort Worth as a shithole?! Yeah! Well screw him! It's not all that bad... I like the town Well, anyway so you might as well tell everyone now. Now the cat is out of the bag we've been researching Amazon moving to Fort Worth as their new headquarter and you and I were like how he gotta buy some real estate it's gonna make us rich don't you remember the whole sworn-to-secrecy bit? I made a mistake okay now everyone's in on it that to the best of my recollection is how podcasting came to be We should clip that whole thing

CHAPTER 09 / 70 Discussion

History of Podcasting Book and Giblet Project

A project is proposed to document the history of podcasting in a short "giblet" format rather than a long book. The goal is to secure the top search result on Google for the term "history of podcasting." The narrative would credit Adam Curry and Bob Doyle for their roles in the medium's creation.

podcasting history· adam curry· bob doyle· google· giblet· exit strategy

17:04 Yeah, it's a separate little podcast. Yeah put on the M-Bone well actually what we'll do is have history of podcasting I feel a giblet coming ah yeah there's a giblet but we'll take a little that will take a transcript of what you just said. We'll add some more stuff to it, make it into a giblet and we'll also do it as clip that out and make a podcast that stands alone, a standalone podcast that says as its name the history of podcasting. Yeah, It's a good idea. It's a very good idea! And that will take once-and-for-all

17:45 So if you go to Google and you go history of podcasting, this thing is going to be on the first page somewhere. And then there's the book. Is it a full-on book or? There are only 8 million books about podcasts. It's gonna be a giblet. It's gonna be small short little thing. It's not gonna be long boring book Going back to 1927, it's going to be just about what you said pretty much and how it kind of came about and how I got named. And now we've got where it got in why is not doing what you'd hoped that had done except in very few instances was draw all very successful. Well if we did a full on, I mean we don't talk about the co-author will call out Adam Curry and Bob Doyle

CHAPTER 10 / 70 Discussion

Canadian Ice Cider and Apple Industry Innovation

A report highlights a Canadian innovator who revived the apple industry by inventing ice cider, an alcoholic drink made from apples frozen on the tree. The hosts suggest launching a "Curry Dvorak Ice Cider" brand to target the millennial market, leveraging their perceived expertise in technology and agriculture.

canada· ice cider· frozen apples· dessert wine· millennials· exit strategy

18:30 George Washington and Bob Doyle. Oh man, anyway so that kind of sets it straight I think but i'd love to do that let's let that be a project that's our exit strategy right there another project is in the can yes He's a disruptor credited for reviving Canada's apple industry. It takes a village, they say. Not a village... big town! He did it three decades ago when he invented ice cider an alcoholic apple drink akin to dessert wine it takes advantage of something Canada has in abundance the cold

19:11 I pick apples when there is minus 10 Celsius in the apple. Instead of picking apples in the fall, he waits until they freeze in the winter when the apple sugar peaks He was inspired by a popular drink called ice wine which is made from frozen grapes You've hit upon something very big here. This is an exit strategy this is I'm sure Millennials love this whole idea Oh, yeah ice cider can you imagine? Curry Dvorak ice cider you know we're like the two geezers who really know what we're doing We can come up with because they're Apple experts yes where Apple experts we understand everything about apples about wine and

CHAPTER 11 / 70 Discussion

TSA Evasion Kits and Facial Recognition Countermeasures

The hosts propose a "No Agenda TSA Evasion Kit" designed to defeat facial recognition technology. The kit would include third-eye stickers, googly eyeglasses, and "Taliban beards" to confuse biometric sensors. They discuss manufacturing the items cheaply in China for high-margin resale.

tsa· facial recognition· taliban beard· third eye· googly eyes· exit strategy

19:58 We understand that and I think the Millennials will go crazy for this stuff. So, it's so you're...so the accuracy just increases because the sample size gets bigger and bigger and bigger Oh yeah! Because they keep using it Already? I'm very impressed by facial recognition It really is...I mean especially if you have the right camera for it The technology is actually pretty damn good Now there are a couple of things you can try Mm-hmm Hat Apparently You can take a picture of an eyeball And you put it between the two eyeballs so you can put two eyeballs. You have a third eyeball? Is that what... A third eyeball would work, but yeah, hey I have a third eye and its my religion! You could put a copy of Eyeballs above your brow. No stop just stop this is the official no agenda TSA evasion kit. It consists of a third eyeball sticker

20:51 that you put right on your head. This is another, yet another exit strategy! I believe there's also some uses of glassware that would work and makeup might or might not work I think the real killer here because they do, it's done through points they have to identify is the big Taliban beard. I don't think that makes a difference. I think it sees right through, I don't think the beard does anything for facial recognition. Well we can look into it but I believe a Taliban beard... So the kit includes a sticker um uh third eye sticker, a Taliban beard and and the googly eyeglasses yeah if we can get this made in China for 20 cents and sell it for twenty bucks. We're gonna be rich! That's our exit strategy.

CHAPTER 12 / 70 Discussion

Fatbergs and Recyclable Toilet Wipes

A 64-meter "fatberg" discovered in the sewers of Sidmouth, UK, prompts a discussion on improper waste disposal. The hosts brainstorm a business for recyclable or washable toilet wipes and "butt mittens" to address the environmental impact of disposable wet wipes.

fatberg· sidmouth· wet wipes· sewage· recyclable wipes· exit strategy

21:49 Modern modern problems modern modern problems in the UK. Well, we've got a monster of a fatberg under the seafront here in Sidmouth It's about 64 meters long we think which is equivalent of about six double-decker buses So this is created by Fat but also with wet wipes and things so our message particularly around toilet And the way people use their toilets is to only flush the three Ps. That is pee, paper and poo. Woo! Nothing else. Everything else needs to go in the bin and the same applies with fat in the kitchen sink Don't pour hot fat down the kitchen sink it needs to go into a container and also put in the bin This is really... that's not true

22:34 What? You can emulsify fat with some soap and hot water, and it's just fine to dump it down the drain. Have you seen any of these Fatbergs in the sewer? It was 60 meters long! Well that's because people put fat down the drain when they don't emulsify first. Well what is getting blamed for it is toilet wipes. That's one thing I keep hearing is toilet wipes, toilet wipes, toilet wipes... Are they going to go the way of the straw? I'll betcha' they are This is our exit strategy. We need recyclable toilet wipes or something like that, or... There you go! Yeah, you take it and wipe your butt and then you wash it in the washing machine a few times And then you can use it again Or maybe better? Nah people aren't gonna do that we should have some kind of Butt wipe where it's kind of like a mitten and so after you've wiped then you fold it inside out

23:30 And again No, then you can dispose of it in the bin. You know so the whole thing is just a part I think maybe didn't want to get one of those already sounds like an expensive item This doesn't sound like a great exit strategy is what I'm thinking well no All these ideas have been oh man. Let me be so mean to me now So of course I was looking for another exit premium Yeah, I want an amulet or something that could channel away the 5g energy. But of course this doesn't look crystals doesn't really exist Crystals 5g crystals That's right No agenda 5g crystals will save your life from 5g signals Or maybe just a simple armband that lights up when there's too much 5g around you That would be cool

CHAPTER 13 / 70 Discussion

5G Protection Crystals and LED Fashion

The hosts discuss marketing "5G crystals" or armbands that light up in the presence of high-frequency signals. They reference 1990s Chinese street fashion involving LED clothing and suggest using magnetic loops to harvest ambient electricity to power wearable displays.

5g· crystals· led clothing· magnetic loop· wearable tech· exit strategy

24:20 And that's pretty inexpensive to make. That's not a bad idea Yeah, you could just be okay I got red here on my band or I'm backing out. You can use it weaving into fashion so people can wear fashionable dress and so when the dress just lights up there is all kinds of cool stuff because there are too many phones in the area That's one of the few times you've agreed with my exit strategy premium items. I always thought that wearable displays of LEDs and things flashing around were always cool. Years ago, I think it was in the 90s, I went to China and they were selling this stuff on the street and I've always thought it was just a dynamite idea. Once in awhile, it sneaks into the fashion shows but it doesn't really...it hasn't totally caught on." Well this should be very actually quite easy to produce if we just create a little element that has the right length

25:12 That it would fire up when it's you know, just like any kind of magnetic loop It'll it'll resonate and it can throw off a little electricity maybe enough to light something up on a band. Yeah Alright, I will be in the engineers out there that can help us Of course is gonna be some douche who already did this You don't think so? Okay As a part of your OTG strategy, you do need something else. And for that I have the Surface Go. A very inexpensive, very small device it's the size of my original iPad. I have a nice little beautiful little case that it goes into and I have a hotspot! I think you can get the Surface go with

CHAPTER 14 / 70 Discussion

Digital Detox and Surface Go Strategy

A strategy for "off-the-grid" (OTG) living involves using a Microsoft Surface Go without LTE to force intentional internet usage. By making connectivity difficult through hotspots and dongles, the user reduces phone distraction. The hosts compare this to the experience of using open-standard Linux phones.

surface go· lte· digital detox· notifications· linux phone· exit strategy

25:57 Now with LTE don't get that what you want is you want to be disconnected if I really really really need to get something the pain of Turning on the dongle the hotspot Firing up the little computer and then doing whatever. I need to do that becomes a choice Do I really need to do this? Can I do this later isn't it utmost importance When it's really easy to do you will do it. You have to pain yourself And how long have I been doing this six months? Would you say longer longer really? I'm cured. I am completely cured and i love it! I can even pick up an iPhone now, and just do something to get it out of there or whatever...and put it back down. Notifications aren't in my life anymore except for one sound from my phone.. And that's only a handful of people including you. You called me the other day. That was surprise like the phones ringing

26:53 So that is the strategy when people say what phone should I get? Oh, yeah. I can get the The one that is completely built on open standards Linux hardware switches You're still going to be distracted and looking at your phone when you could be looking at other people looking at their phones It's a lot more fun. It is funny. It's fun it so it's really great because I'm gonna be candid you feel superior You do. Well, that's your goal in life. You just feel superior Yes, it's my exit strategy Yeah you can taste it well The problem with balsamic is because the process for making it involves no aging a little aging a lot of aging and then it involves different specific gravities which is What's what's oh gravity is thickness? Specific gravity

CHAPTER 15 / 70 Discussion

Balsamic Vinegar Quality and Viscosity Standards

The hosts discuss the technical aspects of balsamic vinegar, including aging processes and specific gravity. They criticize watery versions sold at big-box retailers like Costco and joke about rebranding mediocre vinegar as "Asalmic" as a new business venture.

balsamic vinegar· specific gravity· costco· viscosity· asalmic· exit strategy

27:48 is pretty much thickness. It's the weight per volume kind of calculation, but anyway so it can be very thick and so you can pour it and it comes out kinda like a syrup or it could be watery like the stuff that you buy at Costco. And so there...it's not watery-watery but just watery. You see this as like the same viscosity regular vinegar. It doesn't have any of the thickness that you get on a good balsamic. And thank you for giving us the correct pronunciation

28:24 Balsamic. I think i always say balsamic, which is wrong. Balsamic! I don't really think it's important but... It is to me? But I think that because of the variation in the quality and style uh..I think be very easy to pass off the mediocre using the wrong grapes and making a traditional way and get those flavors. I do not think it would be a.... I think it'd be very difficult spot to be honest about it well the scandal is upon us I'm gonna have to have some of this scandalous stuff. It's like you never know... Scandalous! You know, it is possible that the scandalous stuff is better. Could be. Don't know? It's always possible. It does happen. Hey man, this stuff actually kicks ass. We like it

CHAPTER 16 / 70 Discussion

College Admissions Scandal and SAT Bribery

Mark Riddell, a Harvard graduate, pled guilty in Boston Federal Court for his role in a massive college admissions bribery scheme. Prosecutors revealed he was paid $10,000 per test to manipulate SAT scores for students. The hosts joke about taking exams for money as a retirement plan.

mark riddell· sat· college scandal· bribery· harvard· exit strategy

29:12 It actually could be better. In fact, if they marketed it differently I think you'd have some... For example don't call it balsamic call it asalmic. You had B-salmic try A-salmic. Oh an exit strategy! New vinegar but I have an idea we could write a book about it oh I'm sorry what am I thinking? Yeah. You know, the guy that was taking the test for the students? He was arraigned and I guess he's going to go to jail in the college school admission scandal. Yes, it was doing the admissions scandal. Do you want you to guess and I know you don't have this clip or do they hear this how much was he paid to take the SAT for somebody and then also now we take it but get a score that would be apparently so good he could

30:04 Can manipulate the score so he knew all the answers. How much was he paid per test? Why would you think I wouldn't know this number? Oh, you know it? Of course! What do you think i'd do all day?! Oh man. Florida Prep School Administrator Mark Riddell pled guilty today in Boston Federal Court to taking entrance exams for students in a massive college admissions bribery scheme Prosecutors said the 36 year old Harvard graduate was typically paid $10,000 per test Riddell could face up to 20 years in prison and a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar fine Now did you think that was a lot?

30:40 I didn't think it was a little or a lot. I just thought it was good money for taking the test. I was thinking the same way, like because you can only pick one up once every couple of weeks, I guess. Yeah but its 10 grand and if you do ten a year you made 100 grand off the top. Well there's hope! Hey exit strategy Do you think you could ace? Do you think he could ace the exam? I can come pretty close. I got really high scores on the SATs Now we all know why I went to West Virginia. Now what you just said, I think is a great idea and I will mention Costco and other places you could put two or three

CHAPTER 17 / 70 Discussion

Physical Photo Backups and Millennial Vault

Concerned about the loss of digital memories, the hosts recommend printing physical photos at Costco. They propose "MillennialVault.com," a service that would print and store digital photos for a generation that relies solely on social media platforms like Instagram.

photo printing· costco· vhs· instagram· millennial vault· exit strategy

31:23 quote unquote rolls on a small thumb drive and take it to Costco, and they'll print these things out inexpensively about the same you'd have to pay for supplies to do it yourself. Fairly inexpensively and you will have these backups and they actually...the gear that their big print guys have Is a little better than what you generally have in it and it's also did tunes the photos a little bit It's going to be an entire generation of children who get old and die, and there's gonna be nothing left I really enjoy having some of my mom's crazy shit some letters and some photo love photos. I like the photos I like photos of my daughter black-and-white photos yeah

32:03 Yeah, I agree because you know i've saved all of the original videotapes of Christina second birthday third birthday There's some fun stuff on it start rolling them out. Yeah, it's vhs It's then I also have uh VHSc I have beta no What's the dv video now? I saved the actual cameras so I can play it back yeah this is a problem but It's going and yeah there's services who will do it And I understand the storage is going to be a problem because oh my god now you besides your $200 lululemon pants You also have to carry around some like if a photo album and you have no backpack for it. It's not gonna work This is not gonna work for these guys, maybe hey exit strategy. I just saw a giant truck go by Giant truck with the big blue side that said prime Yeah

32:56 Yeah, Amazon. Anyway they're into this the way they're doing it is what they are into and I think they are going to be sorely disappointed if its a bad choice. This is just a warning yeah I agree. It's just hey take it from your Uncle Adam and Uncle John you might want to have some memories later on and it's gonna go away if you trust it to Instagram Just take a couple make a selection We need to have the millennialvault.com or something like this, where you just send off a couple pictures we print and we store them for ya which of course we don't do because we're really an on-demand printing system so say we're gonna print these for you and will keep them safe for you and then when you go pick em up which 90% will never do Oh here they are! We print them off real quick So there also well preserved that kept perfectly well obviously we won't lose the data

33:52 It's another exit strategy. People in my family have donated, but I just can't when you keep talking about exit strategy bring back the good old days We're doing one show a week for 40 minutes and you weren't donating That's it. What that? I don't think so You do know that exit strategy is a joke right kind of I mean if we had a real exit strategy We'd just be weed exit right now But right now being being on the front lines of the podcast reboot is fabulous

CHAPTER 18 / 70 Discussion

Mainframe Job Matching and Producer Networking

The show acts as an informal job fair, connecting a mainframe computer specialist with a company interested in his skills. The hosts explain their policy of not connecting people directly, requiring listeners to facilitate their own introductions.

mainframe· job fair· networking· eric· producer· exit strategy

34:40 No one cares about us. Not a single story, nothing covers us ever! Ever! Was there some karma for her husband who's a mainframe guy? A mainframe dude? Oh yeah, the mainframe because there are not many mainframe jobs left. We got an email from a company that says... or someone who works at the company says hey could you please hook me up with that producer because I think our company would be interested in our husband and so I don't know if we made love match yet but we have... Did she send a note back? Eric very properly sent a note to her With the information, you know we don't connect people directly they have to do that themselves. So we're like a more like a job fair here

CHAPTER 19 / 70 Discussion

Eurovision Commentary and Mystery Science Theater Format

The hosts discuss providing live commentary for the Eurovision Song Contest, inspired by the late Terry Wogan. They envision a "Mystery Science Theater 3000" style broadcast with silhouettes over the video feed, ragging on the political voting patterns of participating countries.

eurovision· katy perry· logo tv· terry wogan· commentary· exit strategy

35:21 Yeah. Hey, hey exit strategy exactly job fair everybody welcomes Adams Job Fair welcome to the best on Saturday in Great Plains on Sunday well to three you know your syrup syrupy look all you need to do is just put Katy Perry and the judges podium and then you'll have it made they'll ABC will carry it yeah but see now this is the beauty of the Eurovision Song Contest is there's a, each country has its own professional judges and they vote and they're not allowed to vote on their own country. But then you have the text vote And you see all of the politics coming into play You know adjacent countries who will vote for each other If they don't like that country everyone hates Russia so they don't vote for them except for the countries that do love Russia So it just its wonderful evening Apparently Logo stopped doing it

36:17 So much for your theory. Damn it! It's ridiculous, I do think it could be when you mentioned Terry Wogan just ragging on it...I think that I'd watch that You and I could do this actually We can rag on it as much as anybody But we could do a good job I think would be fun to have you just being like what is this? What country? Where is this country? Where's Katy Perry I can see it. Alright, well i'll see if anyone is carrying it this year. It could happen next year! This would be a big event we could do a little TV. This is our exit strategy to the show

37:01 Hey, I'm all for it. Let me see if we... hey how about this? Let me see if we can get a feed that everyone will be watching A legal feed! And then and then we'll just pop on our stream and uh and we'll just provide commentary you can sit on the couch while you do it No, we got to do it on video It has to be video Can't we just provide it oh now I see what you're saying yeah it has to be synced with the video but we don't have to be on camera No, no, I was thinking more like the space science 3000 with the two of our shadows in front. You know silhouettes of our heads

37:39 Maybe a third head. I think that's complicating and already well thought out format just do the voiceover You don't need to do anything else it was what how did Wogan do it? He just voice over he was just in the background He wasn't ever gonna have the video feed yeah, this could have video feet And then you and I will just rag on it complicated later wait a minute wait a minute yes I think this is uh I Think this is at this weekend. That's though. That's the wedding weekend and also Either that or we can sit in my studio and do it live together. Yeah, maybe wedding. Maybe not maybe not Oakland I know him is it a cliff and I come over there with some gear and we can record You know some new material from you mm-hmm And he obliged is very entertaining very entertaining oh good then you did this when this past week? I did last week. Oh cool, and he also makes Klein bottles as a hobby what kind of bottles a Klein bottle is a bottle with one surface on

CHAPTER 20 / 70 Discussion

Klein Bottles and Mobius Band Curiosities

A discussion on Klein bottles—one-sided surfaces similar to Mobius bands—describes them as mathematical curiosities with no practical use. The hosts mention a hobbyist named Cliff who makes these bottles, noting that the only benefit is the profit from selling them to collectors.

klein bottle· mobius band· cliff· glass blowing· curiosity· exit strategy

38:41 You have to look it up to see what they are, but they only have one service. It's like a you know the thing you twist and what's it called I can't remember people in this chat room know where you have a you can take A piece of paper and turn it so it has one surface and just keep going around and around Well now I know what it is I got it now Klein bottle how do you spell Klein K-l-e-i-n? Klein bottle okay, we'll just see what it is Yeah, Mobius band. Oh Okay It's a Mobius band bottle and that's interesting yeah I mean is there any benefit to the Mobius band bottle or the Mobius band bottle? None! There is a benefit if you make them and sell them you can't get it out If you make em' and you sell them theres a benefit No other observable benefit Its definitely a curiosity thats for sure he makes a bunch of different ones

39:35 So when you pour it, it basically goes back into the bottle. Yeah, that's the smart stuff. You can't really pour it out. That's a problem. You can't get it out I've got it! There is another exit strategy not quite sure how we... Yeah, Klein bottles. The second is we have an upvote and a downvote system that's really powerful to have both so that users can actually weigh in on what is appropriate content, and what's good content. And there it is! This is a whole new presentation...and they're saying WE HAVE Human moderators we have 15 to 50 moderators before anything surfaces up high enough for your brand to be tainted by it Don't worry. You're safe with us We got this lady over here she knows the inside workings of Twitter and Google ha ha ha we figured it out We've tackled it they hired 60 people 6-0 60 people in New York for brand advertising, and then they quarantine The Donald well of course they do their pitching this to advertisers

CHAPTER 21 / 70 Discussion

Reddit Advertising and Brand Safety Quarantine

Reddit's strategy of "quarantining" controversial subreddits like "The Donald" to attract corporate advertisers is analyzed. The hosts suggest that those concerned with free speech should target advertisers directly rather than complaining about platform censorship.

reddit· the donald· advertising· censorship· media matters· exit strategy

40:37 What are you doing about all that horrible discourse, all these alt-right people on the Donald subreddit? We've quarantined that. So if you want to be effective and if you are worried about free speech and you really feel like you need to use these platforms which I'm against then you need to go after the advertisers And stop bitching and moaning about censoring. Go after the advertisers, go for the jugular where the money is! This is where we could get into our pitch... Oh, the final thing I wanted to say. I got a note from... This is another exit strategy. We can start that group. Oh interesting What what group? The anti-brand group? The Media Matters Group. We'd be a media matters no agenda matters

41:22 Unbelievable. So not only do I not believe this, Yeah, they've now traumatized 20 other children into believing how horrible and it I'm sure it's no picnic But this is not the way to go about doing these things. It's despicable You know what? Maybe we're stupid you were stupid Johnny No, no, we don't see it that way. Yeah, we're done Okay. Yeah, we need to have children asking for donations on our show Oh

CHAPTER 22 / 70 Discussion

Kids for Cash Advertising Agency

The hosts joke about starting an ad agency called "Kids for Cash," featuring talented children begging for donations or recording jingles. The concept includes a newsletter written in crayons to enhance the aesthetic of the "struggling" organization.

advertising· children· jingles· crayons· kids for cash· exit strategy

42:19 I'm liking it. Please, Adam and John! They have to sleep on the cloud floor! We have plenty of talent out there that can record a few ditties for us... Children begging for money for the No Agenda show because it's horrible how bad things are. It's horrible how bad things are exactly so if we're just not- You mislaunched this is it? We could actually start an ad agency That's it our exit strategy. Yes, but the bunch of very talented erudite kids this is a great idea yes what we call it kids for cash

43:03 It sounds like chorus for kids. Don't sing it, don't sing it'll be in my head for the rest of the week no no no don't do that. Well we could use a jingle too! Yeah yes we're gonna do this with this is good this where we're going This is a great idea and then auditions are underway And then the newsletter you can do it with crayons I'm sure it'll work. Clearly, this is the way to go." We also found that and this is I think is key then many of the streaming set top boxes and smart TVs tell the sending side to send 5.1 even if the output is only going to stereo speakers built into the TV So, I think there's a big flaw is in your yours yours your Roku box or whatever you're using It's sending a signal saying yes, I mean that five point one which of course now

43:59 is looking for a center channel to send the dialogue through. The audio processor in these devices often does not do a proper down mix to stereo and in several of the low price models, has a very poor job of the down mixed levels leaving dialogue always lower than other sounds. In particular by not properly mixing in the center channel with the front left and right This is where I see our exit strategy We need a box! We need a box! Yeah we need a box Need a DSP digital signal processing box There's an app that does this for the Xbox apparently I don't have an Xbox but a lot of people... Call it a Foley box. Just use this software, license it! There you go done exit okay well that's it last show everybody yeah we had the the big freakout and boycott of Equinox and SoulCycle

CHAPTER 23 / 70 Discussion

Audio Downmixing and the Foley Box

A technical flaw in streaming boxes like Roku causes 5.1 surround sound to downmix poorly into stereo, resulting in quiet dialogue. The hosts propose a "Foley Box" or a dedicated DSP (Digital Signal Processing) device to fix audio levels for home television users.

5.1 audio· stereo· roku· dsp· foley box· exit strategy

43:03 It sounds like chorus for kids. Don't sing it, don't sing it'll be in my head for the rest of the week no no no don't do that. Well we could use a jingle too! Yeah yes we're gonna do this with this is good this where we're going This is a great idea and then auditions are underway And then the newsletter you can do it with crayons I'm sure it'll work. Clearly, this is the way to go." We also found that and this is I think is key then many of the streaming set top boxes and smart TVs tell the sending side to send 5.1 even if the output is only going to stereo speakers built into the TV So, I think there's a big flaw is in your yours yours your Roku box or whatever you're using It's sending a signal saying yes, I mean that five point one which of course now

43:59 is looking for a center channel to send the dialogue through. The audio processor in these devices often does not do a proper down mix to stereo and in several of the low price models, has a very poor job of the down mixed levels leaving dialogue always lower than other sounds. In particular by not properly mixing in the center channel with the front left and right This is where I see our exit strategy We need a box! We need a box! Yeah we need a box Need a DSP digital signal processing box There's an app that does this for the Xbox apparently I don't have an Xbox but a lot of people... Call it a Foley box. Just use this software, license it! There you go done exit okay well that's it last show everybody yeah we had the the big freakout and boycott of Equinox and SoulCycle

CHAPTER 24 / 70 Discussion

Spin Gym Business Concept

Following a boycott of Equinox and SoulCycle, the hosts brainstorm a "Spin Gym" concept. The idea involves a hybrid workout where participants use spin bikes while simultaneously performing weightlifting exercises.

spin gym· equinox· soulcycle· boycott· fitness· exit strategy

44:51 What? A soul cycle and Equinox the boycott we had the boycott Remember the CEO of the company that owns The Gym and The Spin class Oh, this spin gym guy. Spin gym guy. Boycott. This spin gym guy hold on That by the way is a whole new cat- that's an exit strategy I'm gonna write that down Spin gym so you go there And you can spin and gym It's a combo, it's the spin gym. Yeah you're pumping away and you're pulling down weights at the same time yeah perfect spin gym okay I'm writing that down as an exit strategy. Podcasts aren't helping. I have to call back though your idea of the homelessness experience in Disneyland is this isn't exit strategy? I think we could create this ride

CHAPTER 25 / 70 Discussion

Disneyland Homelessness Experience Ride

A satirical proposal for a Disneyland-style ride based on the "homelessness experience" is detailed. The ride would feature animatronic encampments, "rivers of pee," and virtual reality headsets that simulate the smell of waste, ending with a message about social evolution.

disneyland· pirates of the caribbean· vr· homelessness· animatronics· exit strategy

45:45 Now, do you sit in the ride or I think you should also experience for a brief moment stepping into human feces? The homeless are always stepping in human feces. I guess some of that are really down and out staggering down the street all leaned over. No, no I mean if the ride is the ride are you going to actually experience it? Like uh so is a ride different is it like...I think the most enjoyable Disney rides are in a cart you know and you got your music going on yeah like you know well okay there's two ways of going about this I'm a huge connoisseur of these things here we go

46:23 There's one is you're in the little car, a little thing and it's going through a homeless encampment. People are all animatronic. That's like Pirates of the Caribbean Yeah exactly like Pirates of the Caribbean only maybe could be in kind of a river of pee You know, if you're into kind of stinky pee that would be okay. But I think generally speaking it'd be better on rails and you go through these things and you can see all these different people. And then they have, you know, people do you have...you go through the section where there's a bunch of politicians trying to come up with good solutions and they finally say we just need more housing! And then you come out at the other end of it and you feel real good about yourself and now you understand. Now you have evolved

47:05 The other one, which is the cheaper way to go. You wear some VR glasses or you're in a VR situation and experience the whole thing only now it's even more realistic because it's not animatronics, it's not dummies and things like Pirates of the Caribbean. It's actual videos that you're seeing surrounded by real stench-filled fans blowing the smell of crap on your face And you go through the whole thing and come out the other end pretty much with the same message, but it's just a cheaper way to do the ride. Less maintenance. I personally like the Pirates of the Caribbean version. I like that little better

47:49 I think it's more fun. I always like those rides better than the ones that are closed. Yeah, because you go through City Hall where the council members are all sitting there pontificating then you could do and here is Los Angeles and here is Austin... You can have a couple show some differences? Oh yeah! Right? Yeah, you could take your car to one place or another and then guys begging for money in different ways Along the ride people keep coming up to your cart asking for money. Yeah We're going to hell for this there's more than sports So we already do we discuss this on the show I had the clip of that guy who used to eat food You know, he's very popular and just eats these like huge amounts of food And then bitches and moans and gets sick and this guy has got millions of viewers Okay. Yes mukbang it's yes and

48:42 and the keeper watches some... We did not miss this. Well, but we didn't get the name Mukbang and we didn't get some other important facts yes we did miss a lot of this story Since 2011, a peculiar trend of live streaming while eating large quantities of food has become more and more popular in South Korea. The people who participate in mukbang have become minor celebrities in their own right to the point that they're referred to as broadcast jockeys or the more popular term don't laugh BJs

CHAPTER 26 / 70 Discussion

Mukbang and South Korean Broadcast Jockeys

The South Korean trend of "Mukbang"—live-streaming large meals—is discussed, noting that top "Broadcast Jockeys" (BJs) like Park Soo Young can earn $9,000 a month. The hosts consider entering the ASMR or Mukbang space as a lucrative alternative to podcasting.

mukbang· south korea· park soo young· asmr· bjs· exit strategy

47:49 I think it's more fun. I always like those rides better than the ones that are closed. Yeah, because you go through City Hall where the council members are all sitting there pontificating then you could do and here is Los Angeles and here is Austin... You can have a couple show some differences? Oh yeah! Right? Yeah, you could take your car to one place or another and then guys begging for money in different ways Along the ride people keep coming up to your cart asking for money. Yeah We're going to hell for this there's more than sports So we already do we discuss this on the show I had the clip of that guy who used to eat food You know, he's very popular and just eats these like huge amounts of food And then bitches and moans and gets sick and this guy has got millions of viewers Okay. Yes mukbang it's yes and

48:42 and the keeper watches some... We did not miss this. Well, but we didn't get the name Mukbang and we didn't get some other important facts yes we did miss a lot of this story Since 2011, a peculiar trend of live streaming while eating large quantities of food has become more and more popular in South Korea. The people who participate in mukbang have become minor celebrities in their own right to the point that they're referred to as broadcast jockeys or the more popular term don't laugh BJs

49:28 So they've become BJs. Yeah, well I agree we didn't get BJ's These so-called BJ's have learned that there is such a thing as a free lunch This is Park Soo Young one of the country's most popular BJ's for whom mukbang was a full time job better known as The Diva At one point, she was making up to $9000 a month through her fans' donations. John! Exit strategy!! We can do this!!! $9000 a month compared to the girls who make makeup videos is minor But we can do ASMR! Ummm... Mukbang Here's an example This is a guy eating pizza

CHAPTER 27 / 70 Discussion

Woody Allen Cancellation and No Agenda Press

Woody Allen's recent "cancellation" in the U.S. has led to Amazon refusing to release his film "A Rainy Day in New York" and major publishers rejecting his autobiography. The hosts suggest "No Agenda Press" could step in to publish the book as a business opportunity.

woody allen· amazon· autobiography· publishing· cancellation· exit strategy

50:19 We could do this. Well, maybe you're not in but I think I need to do some mukbanging. I think you should do it and I'll watch But listen to the headline VJ becomes BJ I mean could it be any better? It's obvious! The promotion is right there ready to go Well, there's another dead end. Wait a minute... Woody Allen wasn't already like super-like super cancelled? No, he's cancelled. Cancelled now. I mean his new movie A Rainy Day in New York will not get released in the United States It was it's actually been released in Europe to good reviews Yeah Amazon will not bring it out the United States they won't stream it He's got the autobiography of Woody Allen which has to be a fascinating book No denied The big four publishers none of them will touch it

CHAPTER 28 / 70 Discussion

Government Grants and Lincoln-Washington Strategy Group

The hosts examine how government funds, such as $300 million for AIDS education in Ukraine, are distributed to NGOs. They propose forming the "Lincoln-Washington Strategy Group" to apply for federal grants and consult for government entities, leveraging the complexity of the grant-writing process.

usaid· ukraine· ngos· grantsmanship· think tank· exit strategy

51:17 Did he do that himself? He's a writer, yeah. But he did the film about his life or is it just written? No, book! Oh well shit no Agenda Press should release that. Exit strategy baby! That's the bottom of the barrel for him In the actual government documents themselves if you look at money that was intended for Ukraine It doesn't take a genius You know $300 million was earmarked, government money our money tax money $300 million for AIDS education in Ukraine. that's going to NGOs and other, and that's how it works. You set up you know it's like hey John we got a buddy over there you know they make it in Congress and you know they got some chips in with somebody else so why don't we start a little non-governmental organization? We will educate podcasters how to be free media something like that

52:14 And then we'll get an earmark and we'll get 25 million dollars. We put together a class... No, this is what it is! This is what we should be doing I know! This is the exit strategy! We're available Now, you need a good grantsmanship person. Somebody who knows how to write grants and you can make a lot of money off this thing that they're trying to put an end too. And I think it's wise to put an end to it because it is squandering taxpayers' money. So we have the same memes over and over from all the reporters and from every analyst on this side of the water that it makes us less safe and Congress wasn't consulted. That's it!

52:58 That's all they got. It's all they got Congress wasn't consulted and as you pointed out, and everybody really knows this, Congress doesn't need to be supported or I'm sorry informed about a drone hit on someone? No! When have they ever been informed of it when Obama had his hit list was he calling congress something saying what do you think Nancy should i kill this guy at the wedding we went into Syria without a declaration of war come on this I mean but that's That's just grasping at straws. But more importantly, did I hear you say that there is real money in these think tanks? Is that possibly the exit strategy we should be looking at? There is real money in these think tanks if you know how to manage one We need somebody out there who can do grantsmanship So I think we should have the Curry-Dvorak Lincoln Washington Consortium Don't you think so? Doesn't it sound official consortium

53:57 Group? No, what do we need? Curry, Dvorak, Lincoln, Washington... Confab. No I'm looking for the right one. Isn't Lincoln-Washington just a good beginning? Curry and Dvorak who are those guys? So you just put Lincoln-Washington Consulting Washington Lincoln, Lincoln Washington. Yeah? Lincoln Washington Washington. You'd have to write you'd have focus group this baby can we put it just throw JFK in there for good measure Lincoln JFK's out he's out okay so the I think the Lincoln Washington consulting group Yeah, okay might work Lincoln Washington who's Lincoln who's Washington? Well you know we have to we have two greatest president How about strategic strategy group that's better link it Lincoln Washington Strategy Group people can watch this in real time as we develop this I've been working on on our exit strategy as always and

CHAPTER 29 / 70 Discussion

Shelby County Podcast Contract Controversy

Shelby County commissioners in Tennessee faced criticism for a $110,000 contract with the Katsukian Network to produce podcasts. Commissioner Mick Wright opposed the deal, noting that local options were significantly cheaper. The hosts see this as a model for selling high-end podcast services to thousands of counties.

shelby county· mick wright· katsukian network· government spending· podcasting· exit strategy

54:54 Yes. Well, there is something going on in Texas which might work for us I mean it's not yeah it would still mean work but we could certainly make a lot of money if you're interested Well, the work part of it is kind of disconcerting. Here's Shelby County Texas! Shelby County commissioners plan to pay more than $9000 a month to a podcasting company to produce podcasts and market it on the internet. This contract is so outrageous It just baffles me why we're doing this. Shelby County Commissioner Mick Wright is the lone commissioner who voted against paying the Katsuki Network almost $110,000 to produce podcasts for the commission When you're talking about over a hundred thousand dollars I mean you could buy a small fleet of vehicles for that amount and still do a podcast

55:47 The local I team found there are cheaper options in town. The OAM network operates out of the Crosstown concourse here a podcast cost $300 for the first episode and $100 per episode after that. OAMs owner questions why the county is even paying for podcasts when it video streams its meetings and also broadcasts them live on the radio The owner of Kadzukian didn't want to comment for this story, but at the commission meeting he explained the cost this way. We really work with businesses and we work with government entities to make sure that they have a very high-end product John it's that easy there's a lot of counties every county listen we work with a lot of businesses and we ensure you have a high end quality product

56:39 The Curry Dvorak podcast production group. I would love to hear these high-end products from this guy! I wonder if they've produced any yet? Shelby... that would be funny, i should have actually looked into that, I'm sorry podcasts let's see Shelby County Podcast no nothing yet but it's something we could consider a hundred grand a year Yeah! For just one county. For one county, do a thousand counties? Boom! This is all being done through... not all mostly being done through AID but also the Democracy and Human Rights Bureau here at State USAID and a new one the Democracy and Human Rights Bureau which is also- That's a new one you must have looked it up Oh yes I did this is our exit strategy

CHAPTER 30 / 70 Discussion

State Department Human Rights Grants for China

The Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor is offering grants up to $1.5 million for programs promoting human rights and transparency in China. The hosts discuss the potential for creating "propaganda" podcasts to secure these government funds.

state department· china· human rights· usaid· propaganda· exit strategy

57:36 All we need is to write one good grant. This is fin- I mean it literally says opportunities Here's one requests for statements of interest China programs So the Bureau of Human Rights, of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor which is a part of the State Department announces a request for statements of interest from organizations interested in submitting statements of interest for programs that protect and promote human rights in China. I think we qualify if not we could make a sub podcast that does

58:15 Oh yeah, we could do that. The program concept should demonstrate ability to improve rights awareness and access to justice for Chinese citizens strengthen an institutionalized citizen participation in government promote government information transparency blah blah blah blah blah the numbers they have available for 2020 I'm just scrolling down because it's a very long thing. They've won grant for $750,000 and one for 1.5 million dollars John! We're crazy if we don't go after some of this that's just the China one we could grab any one of these or more This is a propaganda bonanza i love these guys and congress just gives them the money there you go

59:14 Yeah, this is a very interesting outfit. So that's what your money is going towards podcasters in Venezuela Way to go Congress very very proud of the work you're doing. I did get the message about elderberry and There's some research on elderberry and choke berry Choke berry which apparently keeps keeps the Russians from ever catching any of these yeah choked berry look it up It's another berry. These two particular products have an effect on the immune system, specifically targeting viruses and the Russians make a big deal of having chokeberry and elderberry syrups in drinks

CHAPTER 31 / 70 Discussion

Elderberry Immune Supplements and Hair Care

A discussion on the health benefits of elderberry and chokeberry syrups leads to a mention of "Happy Hair Formula," a website run by a producer named Vicki. The hosts consider endorsing or creating official "No Agenda" hair care products.

elderberry· chokeberry· immune system· hair growth· vicki· exit strategy

59:56 And and such is this a winter time. It's a millennial thing now is like a small batch deal I don't know but this where he got it from so I'm Expecting to see and he mentioned it in his report the elderberry phenomenon Yeah, yeah, and so that so I guess they're all aware of it And so now you're gonna do King somehow invest in the elderberry business or choke berries You can make a lot of money exit strategy Ten emails of people saying dude, dude. Dude, dude What was it tell me what where's what's her website? I want stuff that makes my hair grow So I feel obliged to say that the happy hair formula comm is Vicki's personal website And let us know how that works out for you and that could be kind of interesting We could we could eventually have the official hair care product of The No Agenda Show

CHAPTER 32 / 70 Discussion

No Agenda Coffee and Microbrewery Branding

The hosts debate the merits of putting the "No Agenda" logo on coffee and other products. They recall a successful "No Agenda" beer produced by a microbrewery in Australia and emphasize the need to personally test any product before granting an official endorsement.

coffee· beer· australia· branding· logo· exit strategy

1:00:46 If it's any good, No Agenda hair care products. Yeah go just like the t-shirts. Nap for humanity! There are some other guys who were talking about some coffee I just want to make it clear Like hey man we'd like to put that no agenda logo on the coffee and give you a third. No no no no no no if we like a product We may endorse it but I don't know about having our logo on it. I do not think thats the right way to go what do you think? Well, a couple things. Do I hear an exit strategy? We had we had no agenda beer out of Australia as you recall Yes that's true yeah and it had our logo with kind of a logo on it And we've had other products the all the T-shirts are done by this shop to get the logo all over I don't see why it's a problem Why is all of us suddenly we hate coffee? Um...I don't! I would like to taste the coffee

1:01:42 Before it becomes official no agenda coffee. Is that now? That's different I will say this, but I will agree with that So we need a couple pounds of coffee and then you can put the yeah Yeah, I mean a little micro brew from Australia By the way wasn't even that micro made it all the way to the US It was selling... It was a monster case actually a big micro brewery A big microbrewery, fantastic. Yeah it makes no sense but there it is on call for the benefit of the state But senior officials tell PBS NewsHour today was also about diplomatic reciprocity In January out of fears of COVID-19 the U.S evacuated its Wuhan consulate

CHAPTER 33 / 70 Discussion

PBS NewsHour China Coverage Critique

The hosts critique the delivery style of PBS NewsHour's reporting on the closure of U.S. consulates in China due to COVID-19 testing disputes. Adam Curry performs an impression of the news reader, suggesting he could work for PBS as a backup career.

pbs newshour· china· wuhan· consulate· covid-19· exit strategy

1:02:23 It has not reopened because of a dispute over whether U.S. employees have to quarantine and take COVID-19 tests upon arrival at Chinese airports." Longer term, US officials say they want to reduce their footprint in China In addition to the Beijing embassy The us has five consulates on the Chinese mainland and the Hong Kong Consulate Senior officials say they've accepted the likely permanent closure of one consulate And intend to move it elsewhere in Asia You know it's really no wonder when you listen to these news reports and I wonder who was doing that reading what station it was on because there is no wonder that nobody gives a crap about China because its really not compelling the way it's delivered. What station is this? That's your PBS News Hour, hello! Oh my god that's really so exciting I don't know why people don't listen to it but we did report on the story but just spoke of this way and then no one really paid attention to me

CHAPTER 34 / 70 Discussion

No Agenda Comic Books and Consulting Notebooks

Artist Mike Riley has produced "No Agenda" comic books, which the hosts praise for their quality. They also mention the availability of "Curry Dvorak Consulting Group" notebooks on Amazon, modeled after the show's "Red Book."

mike riley· comic books· amazon· notebooks· red book· exit strategy

1:03:11 I'm pretty good at that. You get that voice down, you nail it and go to work for PBS! Wooo! Exit strategy everybody! And see I also got a whole bunch of comic books? I wonder if that's from our guy... Are they high-end comic books with the Batman character? No let's see I'm not quite sure who this is from. Because Mike Riley's been sending out some work Oh, maybe... Ah! This looks like Mike Riley! Nah! You know what? Mike Riley says very distinctive. Oh my goodness! This is Riley- oh here it is! Oh my- Chimera likely He's doing No Agenda comic books Have you seen those?! They're great!! I haven't got the latest batch. Oh my good- I had not received any of these

1:04:02 I really appreciate that Mike, thank you so much. Well he sent me some before because i requested a printout of one of his artworks Yeah well it's... It's..I mean this is dynamite work and there's also now on the Amazon store I tweeted link to it from the same makers of The No Agenda Red Book You can now buy your very own Currie Dvorak Consulting Group notebook That's a good one. Half the exit strategy is right there! What is kind of nice to know that this problem... And now you're a podcaster? And not only am I a podcaster, the Podfather but it hit me Friday night. I've not slept more than a couple hours at night. I figured out how to fix podcasting and I'm gonna do it

CHAPTER 35 / 70 Discussion

Podcasting 2.0 and Roadcaster Pro Hardware

Adam Curry discusses his vision for "Podcasting 2.0," which aims to fix payments and technical issues within the medium. He critiques the Rode Roadcaster Pro for lacking a noise gate on computer inputs and expresses surprise that the company has not sent him free gear despite his early influence on the product's concept.

podcasting 2.0· rode· roadcaster pro· noise gate· payments· exit strategy

1:04:54 This is the last time I heard, this was your exact mode. You go into this all the time by the way? Yes, it's a cycle. I think it's about every two years but it could be longer. Yeah The last time you had this was... Actually, I can name another time before this one but the last time Podcaster Pro! Yes which Rode finally did yeah so I was right I chose poor partners That was my mistake, there's no doubt about it. And I learned from that and so did Rhoda and I'm happy. Rhoda went oh poor guy this is fucking great we got all these bits! And they never sent you a free one? Never sent me a free one and they almost have it perfected if only they put a noise gate on the channel that comes in from the computer...I'm just gonna keep saying until they do it

1:05:53 Otherwise, it looks like a pretty decent device. Now this is a fix that will fix payments and it's gonna fix a whole bunch of things I figured out and it may give us an exit strategy And are you going to discuss this openly? Hell no! I'm not even gonna tell you privately. No, no, no...no, no, no. I've learned from my mistakes but Podcasting 2.0 is coming. Working on it. Okay we're all at pins and needles here That's all the T's you get The next T's will be a PewPewMap Podcasting 2.0 has turned out to not be an exit strategy.

1:06:49 It's been fun, it's been fun seeing all the new apps but no exit. I'm still stunned that they haven't sent you a free road... A free Roadcaster? Yeah, Roadcaster They hate me! It's unbelievable This is typical You know they send them to YouTubers and all kinds of people all the time I'll betcha' could work one If they, I mean think about this. They also have the road cast video, video cast? Yes the latest yeah Yeah! I mean they could be like hey you guys could do one one video episode and we would probably do it if we got some free gear out of it Yeah that's a way to do it We're horrors like that But were not getting anything No its amazing Like im really baffled about that

CHAPTER 36 / 70 Discussion

Value-for-Value Donations and PhD Ceremony

The hosts conclude the segment by thanking donors and artists who support the show's "value-for-value" model. They announce the final opportunity for listeners to obtain a "PhD in Media Deconstruction" before the next episode and credit producer Circumference for compiling the "exit strategy" clips.

value-for-value· donations· phd· meetups· circumference· exit strategy

1:07:42 Because that's the whole thing is ridiculous. I kind of took my idea, and I don't want to blame it or accuse them of anything Well you can't yeah wouldn't And I love we have to move the worst things are in love their product. I love the product I use I have two of these I bought you endorsing it which really you shouldn't do now I got a stop doing that like I stopped doing this So we have to mention this is the donation segment. The people that donate will get mentioned on the next show, it'll be a long donation segment and they were still taking donations obviously and I want to mention that if anyone wants to get their PhD in media deconstruction is still available until the next show so it ends tomorrow technically but you know who give you a little weasel room if you get your your donations for the PhD then its over

1:08:26 And that's it. There is no more Code Bongino for you! That will be the last PhD in media deconstructions for the foreseeable future. Yeah, go to NoAgendaDonations.com Thank you all for supporting us with your value-for-value model all of our artists, thank you for everyone who's doing meetups. It's a time talent and treasure and thank you again to circumference for putting this episode together there is over an hour left to go You're gonna love this one, John. I'm not even gonna tell you what it is. This is the continuation of some great ideas known as the no agenda exit strategies Well unfortunately we do have an exit strategy and the extra strategy is we podcast until we die That's a big exit bye everybody! I can't think of any other other any other exit strategy for us

1:09:21 It is overwhelming, the evidence. If you don't believe in climate change or us heat please come to the state of California and we will re-educate you or ultimately enlighten you Wow! Come to California. We will re-educate you. Please come to the state of California and we will re-educate you or ultimately enlighten you as to the consequences of the earth and its temperatures increasing, in terms of droughts not just wildfires as well as floods

CHAPTER 37 / 70 Discussion

California Climate Re-education and COVID Linkage

The hosts mock California's rhetoric regarding climate change "re-education." They propose creating a fake "preprint study" using scientific "word salad" to claim a direct causal link between rising temperatures and the spread of COVID-19 to see if the media will report it.

california· climate change· covid-19· preprint study· word salad· exit strategy

1:08:26 And that's it. There is no more Code Bongino for you! That will be the last PhD in media deconstructions for the foreseeable future. Yeah, go to NoAgendaDonations.com Thank you all for supporting us with your value-for-value model all of our artists, thank you for everyone who's doing meetups. It's a time talent and treasure and thank you again to circumference for putting this episode together there is over an hour left to go You're gonna love this one, John. I'm not even gonna tell you what it is. This is the continuation of some great ideas known as the no agenda exit strategies Well unfortunately we do have an exit strategy and the extra strategy is we podcast until we die That's a big exit bye everybody! I can't think of any other other any other exit strategy for us

1:09:21 It is overwhelming, the evidence. If you don't believe in climate change or us heat please come to the state of California and we will re-educate you or ultimately enlighten you Wow! Come to California. We will re-educate you. Please come to the state of California and we will re-educate you or ultimately enlighten you as to the consequences of the earth and its temperatures increasing, in terms of droughts not just wildfires as well as floods

1:10:02 Okay, I have an idea. This is easily executable and we have the producers this is after all the best podcast in universe We have the producers to do this. I would like a pre print study That's what you know, that's we get all the time and it's always oh that's not scientific doesn't matter in this case a preprint study that just has a whole bunch of word salad in there that shows that climate change and the increase in temperature is direct direct cause of COVID. And let's just get it out there see what happens I mean we might as well show how good we are

1:10:45 You know, for the exit strategy. It's just a thought. We can do that! It is still very doable. Yeah you know put a couple of doctor names affiliations you know and statement of no conflict it's gonna be fantastic we should really consider that We tried to get reports from I think it was Gen Z for a while not Gen Z but Gen X, one of the Gens. And we sent out that message we want reports on your sex life because there's a lot of kinky sex going on because these people they learned about sex from porn really horrid porn yeah well when he started getting some reports in and the reports were so terrible that week we just discontinued

1:11:28 project. Yeah that's another failed exit strategy from the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group where we could not put together the white paper I said well think of the good news it says you're a dog walker they're gonna have to have professional dog walkers because it specifically says people who walk their dogs they don't want people out of the house so If this is true, then don't you have a 78% higher chance of contracting COVID? Catching COVID if you just walk outside in general even with the mask. I mean i don't understand the logic of this study... Oh no! No! You're missing the whole point The nasty little COVID guys they're floating around as an aerosol and they land on the dog's fur

CHAPTER 38 / 70 Discussion

COVID Dog Shampoo and Globalist Sync Rights

A discussion on the theory that COVID-19 can be carried on dog fur leads to a joke about "COVID dog shampoo." The hosts also mention licensing a "Build Back Better" song by Jeff Smith to globalist organizations for lucrative "sync rights."

covid-19· dog walking· shampoo· jeff smith· globalism· exit strategy

1:10:45 You know, for the exit strategy. It's just a thought. We can do that! It is still very doable. Yeah you know put a couple of doctor names affiliations you know and statement of no conflict it's gonna be fantastic we should really consider that We tried to get reports from I think it was Gen Z for a while not Gen Z but Gen X, one of the Gens. And we sent out that message we want reports on your sex life because there's a lot of kinky sex going on because these people they learned about sex from porn really horrid porn yeah well when he started getting some reports in and the reports were so terrible that week we just discontinued

1:11:28 project. Yeah that's another failed exit strategy from the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group where we could not put together the white paper I said well think of the good news it says you're a dog walker they're gonna have to have professional dog walkers because it specifically says people who walk their dogs they don't want people out of the house so If this is true, then don't you have a 78% higher chance of contracting COVID? Catching COVID if you just walk outside in general even with the mask. I mean i don't understand the logic of this study... Oh no! No! You're missing the whole point The nasty little COVID guys they're floating around as an aerosol and they land on the dog's fur

1:12:13 And then you bring in, you walk the dog into the house and the dog is covered with these things. Oh man! Doggy shampoo? It's like fleas. Doggy shampoo we got special COVID doggy shampoo there's all kinds of product opportunities. That's money by the way... You've got exit strategies right here. You nailed it Hi I'm Adam Curry. I used to hate dogs until i found the love of my pooch with a new COVID shampoo Only one end of show mix for today everybody. It'll be the full Jeff Smith build back better song it is up for sale for any globalist who would like to License it from the no agenda get more nation Jeff Smith publishing company which now exists? It's our exit strategy all you imagine how much dough we could make if that thing became a hit worldwide

CHAPTER 39 / 70 Discussion

The Hug Bubble Nursing Home Innovation

In Jumon, France, a nursing home introduced the "Hug Bubble," an inflatable plastic tunnel that allows residents to touch family members safely during the pandemic. The hosts describe the device as "beyond sad" and joke about the missed opportunity to manufacture the plastic sleeves themselves.

hug bubble· france· nursing home· covid-19· plastic· exit strategy

1:13:00 The sync writes alone. Oh my god! There's your exit strategy everybody, make sure you turn on your favorite globalist to this next song In the EU a fantastic... This could have been Curry Dvorak consulting group exit strategy I am beating myself over my head that we missed this opportunity I'm very very disappointed in myself in you as a consulting partner founding consulting partner and probably very disappointed in our associates known as producers of the show that no one came up with this. This must be really bad you're scolding everybody 97 year old Colette Dupas a nursing home resident in Jumon France has been taking precautions against COVID-19 she's been limited to speaking with her family via video call or through a window but now

1:13:52 Now, Dupa is able to feel their touch through plastic thanks to an inflatable tunnel known as the Hug Bubble. Baby! It even has one of our names – The Hug Bubble This thing is fantastic We could have manufactured them overnight Dupa's daughters recently visited her putting one arm through an airtight sealed plastic sleeve to reach their mother and stroke her hair. Stephanie Lazo is an assistant at the nursing home. It has brought comforts, residents would see their relatives through a window or through a camera and they were really missing having real contact

1:14:28 and they are getting a lot of love. Before Dupa's daughters left, they took turns kissing their mother on the cheek through the plastic. After guests leave, the employee disinfects the plastic sheet to prepare for another loving encounter in The Hug Bubble! Do you see the problem? Do you see the problem?! Hug bubble... It is disgusting. I mean, and it's all it is a bouncy house, you know clear plates without the colorful pieces A bouncy house castle with two arms And then your granny comes up you can stroke her hair with the plastic. It's beyond sad Very very very upset we didn't come up with that

CHAPTER 40 / 70 Discussion

Human Urea Farming and Insect Caviar

A dialysis technician suggests "farming" urea from human waste as a business. The hosts pivot to a plan for marketing insects as "tomorrow's caviar," proposing a franchise model for licensed bug producers to capitalize on sustainable food trends.

urea· dialysis· urine· insects· caviar· exit strategy

1:15:20 and also got one of our producers saying, hey I'm a dialysis technician. Urea is one of the waste products excreted in urine that we manually remove from people during dialysis your exit strategy is farming it from humans that are having it removed during dialysis! It gets potassium and calcium to boot there you go We could be selling... We could be like another Dan Quayle What? Taking advantage of the... Of this human systems. Oh my goodness! Well, there's aphids. There is another thing they like to eat. I'd like to turn that frown upside down

1:16:02 and introduce to you a surefire 100% you hear how weak it is, how unprofessional. How it's just the messaging is all wrong this is our exit strategy we can come up with tomorrow's caviar And it's cheap. It's cheap we can have producers all over the world all over get monation Keeping bugs will they'll be licensed there'll be that will be licensed affiliates You know, we're franchising it and they will be approved bugs But we market it as tomorrow's caviar great in audio to so hard The problem with the tech grouch and actually the tip tech hippie too Yeah is that I developed these voices for him? and

CHAPTER 41 / 70 Discussion

Tech Grouch Voice and Voice Coaching

Adam Curry discusses the physical strain of performing the "Tech Grouch" character, noting it hurts his throat. He considers hiring a voice coach to learn how to perform the gravelly voice safely for future ad-libbed segments.

tech grouch· voice acting· unabomber· ad-lib· voice coach· exit strategy

1:16:52 The Tech Grouch in particular was painful. Oh, it hurt your throat? It hurt your throat yeah And I tried to make adjustments so...I need to go a voice coach To do that voice correctly because it was doing incorrectly and I just said wait Wait you went to a voice coach No! I said I needed to go to a voice coach Just have them show me how they did that voice correctly without hurting my throats So all we need is like as a tech grouch saying something like I was OTG before the Unabomber was in the woods Something like that, you know, it'll be good for the show. Yeah Well, you can write them materially if you want Will you perform most of that was ad-libbed? Hi and you are so talented. Yeah, we could do that one of these days yeah, well put it on the list of great projects this exit strategies galore everybody and

CHAPTER 42 / 70 Discussion

Egg-sicles and Frozen Deviled Eggs

A listener report from a chilly Pittsburgh meetup describes how deviled eggs froze in 20-degree weather. The hosts jokingly identify "Egg-sicles" as a potential new snack food for children.

pittsburgh· meetup· deviled eggs· freezing· egg-sicles· exit strategy

1:17:44 ITM, we had a great meetup in Pittsburgh yesterday. We met at the park with the fireplace that we used but it was still pretty chilly out after making cinnamon rolls and candied bacon to bring I wanted also have a healthier option so i made deviled eggs! But after 10 minutes and 20 degree weather they froze into egg-sicles. Sad... The more you know. Wait a minute stop! Stop!! This is an exit strategy Egg-sicles! Are you kidding me? Egg-sicles. You're gonna kill him there. The more you know, she continues... Egg-sicles! And thank you I'm..I have a feeling that egg-sicles it could be a snack the children could just get into around the world think about it and you mean who doesn't love a deviled egg now you could savor it for hours on end I'm liking this

CHAPTER 43 / 70 Discussion

California Employment Law and Religious Exemptions

The hosts discuss the potential for massive lawsuits in California if employers ask prohibited questions about an employee's religious exemptions. They joke about getting jobs just to sue their employers, referencing "embedded scammers" who target companies for legal settlements.

california· employment law· religious exemption· sexual harassment· lawsuits· exit strategy

1:18:41 I'm all in on it. You've got karma. I don't think Tina would be very happy with this idea, which is she and she is from California and probably didn't do what I did which was take the course on sexual harassment employee how to hire how to fire the thing that I was required to take at you never took ad me via fast forwarded through it yes yeah he didn't take The fact, if you have this exemption in hand and you give it to your employer and they say... They ask you one question. You can sue them? About your religion And then she says well then go back and talk to the... Uh.. Go back and talk to him we can get some more backup No! If they asked you one simple question

1:19:34 You can sue them. And she says, well you don't want to have a hassle with your employer The amount of money you can make from suing your employer in California for something as simple as them asking you about religion John! Stop! Is millions of dollars Stop hello? Exit strategy Well, we just need to get employed somewhere. We're gonna sue each other? We gotta get employed! That's never gonna happen. These are the suspects on employers! But this is like and disinvites another thing she overlooks again even though she's from California She obviously never took the training No, no, no. She never did the work Nope

1:20:19 There will be what you experienced, which are the embedded scammers through state who get into a company just long enough to look at here. Look left and right. Oh my goodness yes! Remember that Kleiner Perkins? Yeah find the open spot, the open sore and just go for the dough and they'll bring down tens of millions of dollars There's so much opportunity here in California. She doesn't realize this when she says, well we have to work you know that's bullcrap maybe the employee wait wait wait Maybe that's because she wants you to come back to her and her lawyer pals cause that's their gold mine They're not charging anything for this it's a value for value model

1:21:05 Yeah, but yes and the value is once you have a problem you come back to us and then we screw your... I'm sure that's minor. And if you're the person who were just informing everyone that if you have this opportunity and I think it dead document if you imagine being signed in its notarized, notary stamp It needs a raised seal. It would look pretty good! A raised seal on everything Yeah, it would look pretty good and you take it in. It's okay whatever so sure that didn't boy most employees don't give a crap We always joke about our exit strategy But I think there's one that may actually work for us a real exit strategy right ready for it I'm all ears is the hot things with the it's so hot all the kids are doing it even The NBA is doing it have you heard of NFTs?

CHAPTER 44 / 70 Discussion

NBA Top Shot and NFT Ponzi Schemes

The rise of Non-Fungible Tokens (NFTs) is analyzed, specifically the NBA's success with digital trading cards. The hosts brainstorm an "NFT scam" involving No Agenda episodes, where producers would collude to "pump and dump" digital assets to unsuspecting buyers.

nft· nba top shot· blockchain· cryptocurrency· pump and dump· exit strategy

1:21:56 The new hot thing. Lucky Strike means fine tobacco? No, no, no NFT stands for non-fungible token and this is being used with a digital media either piece of art or piece of video And this one image is marked and registered on a blockchain which is finite. So no extra tokens can be included, and I'll give you the example of the NBA. The NBA it's like trading cards and there's only one of each and your ownership of it is proven on the blockchain

1:22:41 And these things are going for millions of dollars. It's the ultimate collectible, it is digital you don't have to send anything and people pay in cryptocurrency to have ownership of these tokens, of these digital assets and this thing is huge! I hope this as good as my one square inch at the moon that I own... It's very similar to that What the NBA is doing, so you can buy them but then you can also trade them. And so the value goes up and as people are trading these digital assets, the NBA is making money off of the trading. So I was thinking what could we possibly do? And I came with a following idea. What if we had an NFT for the No Agenda episodes and the initial price

1:23:37 Individual item would be complete ownership of an episode. And episode one would go up for sale for $1. Episode 1325 would go up for sale for $1325 Do you see the Ponzi building? Well, there's no Ponzi. Ponzi implies that your shoveling what you make back into the deal No we're not! We're just taking it Yeah These things are crazy hot Wasn't there something worth thinking of turning into a market? Well, this is it. This is it We could do jingles we could do the artwork we could we could be selling by the time we're done will be millionaires and I've nothing left well have no ownership Look them up Okay, how that would work I'm identifying this as a huge deal The NBA is doing it so it's legal yeah If the NBA is doing it then you know everything's on the up-and-up Yeah

1:24:41 I'm very excited about it. Very excited about this, whereas we thought Bitcoin was beanie babies This NFT stuff it's truly the analog It is the beanie babies of cryptocurrency and its very scammy and my After some research My initial thought was we really want nothing to do with this And then I thought wait a minute what if all of the producers What if we all got in on the scam, because you can program who gets what when you sell it and We drive this thing up like crazy and sell it all to some suckers who think that this thing is hot even though It's really just a complete pump-and-dump by the no agenda nation. Yeah Like collusion full on insider trading I mean can we do yes called conspiracy To commit a felony. It's not a felony. What do you mean? It will be

1:25:35 We can get it under the wire if we do it now. You're no fun, you're no fun. I'm game for this by the way, I'm not completely objecting to it. Oh okay so...we've got to work it out a little bit but in essence we just have to get people buying and selling this and tapping it up a little bit every single time And until some sucker comes in, and we have to have trust in the group. You have to have trust that if someone buys something for 500 bucks that there will be someone there who's going to buy it for 501 because that person will know. So we all have to have some kind of code so we can identify fellow travelers and the minute you're above let's say $10,000... It sounds like your starting a communist party when your doing this I'm sorry, exit strategy! I need a vacation

CHAPTER 46 / 70 Discussion

Clubhouse for Corporate Conference Calls

The hosts argue that the audio-only app Clubhouse is "stupid" as a consumer product but would be a revolutionary tool for corporate conference calls. They suggest licensing the Chinese backend technology (Agora) to sell a moderated version to businesses.

clubhouse· conference calls· corporate tech· agora· china· exit strategy

1:29:10 So it's a video of what people look at on their phone, which is just a screen filled with people on stage or not are in the audience. What I don't understand is why anyone is wasting any time on this. You need to go straight to corporate, this thing, this conference call app with that's what it is? It's a conference call app should be sold as a conference call app. It would revolutionize conference calls. Conference calls in business suck ass the free numbers suck they're horrible they're no good This is perfect! Yeah you can moderate you can give someone the microphone bring them up on stage you can shut people down

1:29:47 This is a great product for business. For people, it is destructive and stupid just as a consumer app. Well that sounds like an exit strategy! I didn't want to mention it. Move this baby over to business, that's what the fuck he is! We too can just license the Chinese back-end technology That's where they get it from Yeah, all of those Chinese will license anybody best price Best price? One of our dudes named Ben might wanna help us along Help us exit Yes we need a dude named Ben that can help on this because were too old Speak for yourself young man

CHAPTER 47 / 70 Discussion

Fake Vaccination Cards and GIMP Software

The hosts discuss the ease of forging COVID-19 vaccination cards using templates found on state health department websites. They joke about starting a business selling high-quality fake cards for Bitcoin, utilizing the GIMP image editing software.

vaccination cards· forgery· wyoming· gimp· bitcoin· exit strategy

1:30:25 Time to exit. First of all, they did mention the forgery issue which is something you should be concerned about if you do want actually take this seriously even though there's no reason too and then you can't have a discussion of that at the same time promoting somebody tweeting pictures of their card which then can be extracted from the tweet or the Instagram post and you can cut and paste and create your own cards. Although as I, because I brought this up before on the show somebody sent me a link. And I think it was Wyoming's uh, I think it was the Wyoming State Health Department they actually have the card online printable

1:31:10 Well you can, if you're a doctor just go to this link and download the card print it on some card stock John! John? You're pretty good with the gimp. Exit strategy baby Making fake vaccination cards Fake vaccination cards we take bitcoin Now the question on my mind is if that's true, why does the testing have to involve going up the nose and down the throat when your mouth is obviously filled with COVID viruses or you wouldn't need these rules? I'll make...I'll do one better on this. And I'm very very excited about this NASCAR just announced at the Atlanta Motor Speedway

CHAPTER 48 / 70 Discussion

COVID-Detecting Dogs at NASCAR Events

NASCAR announced the use of COVID-detecting dogs at the Atlanta Motor Speedway, claiming the animals are as effective as PCR tests. The hosts propose a "distributed dog COVID sniffing system" where listeners can rent out their trained pets for virus detection.

nascar· covid dogs· pcr test· 360 k9· usda· exit strategy

1:31:57 They will be using COVID-detecting dogs, and I'm very excited. Because if this is true... Okay that's the topper! If this is true You win the show Then then if this is true then you can just don't swab me just have your dog sniffed me that happens at the airport I'm okay In fact, NASCAR went so far as to say in a bulletin sent to teams quote these dogs have shown to be as effective as PCR tests in identifying an infected person and are already being used by professional sports teams hospitals and many other businesses just screen employees and guests. Well this is fantastic!

1:32:46 And it's an exit strategy. We have nothing but dog people listening to this show, we need to immediately go start training certifying... Well that brings up the question... ...and we have a distributed dog COVID sniffing protection system! We can rent everybody's dog out This brings it to the fore which is how do you train a dog to do this? Well, we'll get the deets. You just don't tell the dog, hey dog! While you're sniffing around which you seem to be doing all day it's all you do Can you when you spot a COVID person can you let us know? Let's see

1:33:29 We'll be working with the 360 K9 group, a provider of specialized detection dogs that serves industries ranging from the federal government sports teams cruise lines hospital and other large venues. So this is already rolling out but it's not being talked about they've worked with the USDA since 2013 to detect viruses in plants with great operational success So I guess you just, you know, you just take an infected swab oozing with the COVID and say here Fido Sniffy. Their newest company Bio Detection K9. Oh that's a TV series. There goes your exit strategy these people are dying to get the name. Bio detection canine oh man yeah shoot

CHAPTER 49 / 70 Discussion

Kraft Grilled Cheese Incense and Mac & Cheese Candles

Kraft created a grilled cheese-scented incense, which the hosts criticize as a "cheap" chemical scent. They suggest a pivot to "Mac and Cheese candles" as a superior home fragrance product.

kraft· grilled cheese· incense· mac and cheese· candles· exit strategy

1:34:19 Now meanwhile in America mainstream media and finally if you like mac and cheese You'll love this craft has created the first ever grilled cheese incense to make your home smell cheesy all the time That's America foam finger number one. Are you rocking it? Who wants a go in somebody's house that sinks of cheap It's beyond cheap cheddar. This is a cheap scent, it's probably just chemicals that are they heat up and it makes us smell like a like cheap cheese? Really? You've got to think that maybe there was an accident in the lab I'm like what is this crap hey add that...I have idea we'll turn it into mac & cheese candles. Hey now exit strategy there's a thought what about actual Mac and Cheese candles

1:35:10 Out of rea- okay, maybe not. It'll burn! Now meanwhile in America mainstream media... And finally if you like mac and cheese you'll love this Kraft has created the first ever grilled cheese incense to make your home smell cheesy all the time Yeah baby that's America Foam finger number one! We rockin it Who wants a go into somebody's house that stinks of cheap It's beyond cheap cheddar. This is a cheap scent, it's probably just chemicals that are they heat up and it makes us smell like a like cheap cheese? Really? You've got to think that maybe there was an accident in the lab I'm like what is this crap hey add that...I have an idea we'll turn it into mac & cheese candles. Hey now exit strategy there's a thought what about actual Mac and Cheese candles

CHAPTER 50 / 70 Discussion

FTC Disclosure Rules and Paid Vaccine Influencers

The hosts discuss potential FTC violations by TikTok influencers who are paid to promote vaccines without disclosure. They highlight an agreement between the CDC and the Twitter account Wario64 to announce vaccine availability to its 900,000 followers.

ftc· tiktok· wario64· cdc· vaccine· exit strategy

1:36:04 Okay, maybe not. It'll burn the FTC and if somebody has some of the group was during the Obama administration made a huge fuss about people on Twitter in specifically pretending to like something because they got paid that pretend to like it right and there were supposed to now they had to be disclosed you have to disclose doing this yeah that's what I thought Well, I don't see any disclosures going on on TikTok. That woman's little bust out there which i thought was admirable in her part uh...I would say indicates that there is a bunch of people that you seem to go all showing up taking the vaccine and then getting paid

1:36:46 This is against the law. That's what I was thinking, that that's not the way it's supposed to work Where is the enforcement? You know one of my pet peeves... Where is the enforcement he said! We need enforcements There is no enforcement on such a law! We need to follow the rules Well there's some- It's a law, it's not a rule Yeah It's a law and its being broken left and right And nobody's doing anything about it They should be arresting people left and right and throwing them in jail That's what I think The United States Center for Disease Control and Prevention has reached an agreement with popular video game deals Twitter account Wario64.

1:37:26 Yes, Wario64 has about 900 thousand followers on Twitter and they've come to an agreement so that the Twitter account not saying it's a person or company just the twitter account wario6464 will now be paid to announce COVID-19 vaccine availability nationwide. I mean these are good little deals you can get from the government today Shit man exit strategy. We'll just reverse everything take some dough tell everyone vaccines are great And then we'll split it all will make everybody whole on the back end Yeah, exactly as we exit

CHAPTER 51 / 70 Discussion

Apple API Changes and Podcast Index

Apple's sudden changes to its podcasting API caused significant disruptions for third-party app developers. The hosts discuss how "PodcastIndex.org" serves as a vital independent alternative to Apple's centralized directory.

apple· api· podcast index· monetization· app developers· exit strategy

1:38:06 Bye. But those are customers and you have to pay for the system, and so Apple communicates with them. And I got an email, hey podcaster we're going to tell you about this new stuff! It's probably going on right now they just started actually. So that's the Apple customer who is not a customer of Apple is these app developers. They don't pay Apple to use their API, it was just an accident that it was available and so within Apple when these changes occurred there was no one representing app developers who were sucking off this index And so they weren't considered! It just got turned off overnight...it's a complete mess and they're not going to try and fix that So with some from the future foresight this podcast index dot org turns out to be a lifesaver

1:38:59 I mean, we've... like big shows are just gone. Not available on any app anywhere! Wow Yeah Well you lucked out What do you mean lucked out? You got the big guy you got the index there for people to I mean hey all back on anyone's paying us for this. I'm just saying a podcasting lucked out That's what happened well, they're not paying you but eventually you're gonna monetize this thing and screw them just like Apple did Since you just expose my exit strategy i'm cutting out of the deal Dvorak And this is this is

CHAPTER 52 / 70 Discussion

Real Estate Bubble and COVID Data Skepticism

The hosts reflect on their early skepticism regarding COVID-19 data, including "gain of function" research and flu case anomalies. They also discuss the World Economic Forum's "you will own nothing" prediction in the context of doubling home prices.

real estate· world economic forum· covid-19· gain of function· osterholm· exit strategy

1:39:37 I feel very, very bad because this is going to... This is exactly what the World Economic Forum has predicted. You're not gonna own anything slave! Not because you won't don't want to cuz you can't And people are talking about prices doubling in the next year. Doubling! What is going on? These things blow up, of course because these ideas aren't perpetual Right but that'll cause a huge crash if that happens won't it I don't know maybe you should just sit tight and make even more money when you sell the house if you can Then again, there's always the up. There's a collapse That's what I'm saying eventually has got to be a clap who knew that my exit strategy would be the house Most people's exit strategies the house Yeah, that's why it was ashamed at the Millennials haven't been able to get in on this The property ladder is important like symptoms and that was conflated with the kovat numbers yeah, I think you know what bothers me and It's a problem that you when I have with this particular show

1:40:40 A year ago, we pretty much had already figured most of these things out. We figured out the droplets, we had the numbers, we saw the flu cases were gone long before that was recognized. The true data... We saw the bait and switch charts and graphs they kept pulling up I think Osterholm still thinks we're gonna die next week. And you know the gain-of-function research All of this stuff, all of this stuff we have talked about and you know, of course branded by many as COVID deniers and nut jobs. Conspiracy theorists! Yes, and then it comes out... All they're doing is playing clips I might add Adam Curry's a nut job And the only By the way, I think you should sue him For not actually being a nut job?

CHAPTER 53 / 70 Discussion

Morning Zoo Pilot and Diversity Casting

The hosts plan a "Morning Zoo" radio pilot featuring a cast of show regulars, including Darren O'Neill and Dame Jennifer. They discuss the "rules" of modern casting, insisting their entertainment reporter must be a "West Coast gay" to satisfy industry stereotypes.

morning zoo· darren o'neill· dame jennifer· mo fax· hollywood· exit strategy

1:41:38 I think it was libelous what he said. Oh, interesting! Exit strategy anybody? John and I... Yes that I'm talking to the trolls now we had an idea to really do a morning zoo type episode of a show Yeah. And we were talking about this after the last show, actually and we've already put together the cast but we're missing one important member so to review for a morning zoo show now are you gonna be my sidekick or am I your sidekick? It doesn't matter much to me Well...I'm thinking about producing the thing and making Darren O'Neill your sidekick Ooh yeah! That's all he has to say by the way

1:42:28 Ooh, yeah! And I'll go, everybody is wagging their eyes in the morning at the morning zoo. And then he can do... Yes okay so you're the producer- You're coach John. You gotta have a name. You gotta have a zoo name. You can't just be John C. Dvorak, so you're Coach John... No I had to ask him serve MK Ultra-John or something. DJMK? I don't know we'll come up with it that's the least of our problems our real problem is what we're gonna discuss right now Yes okay so here's the crew because you need a crew for The Morning Zoo So we got me and we got Darren We've got coach JCD

1:43:13 known as the Widowmaker, then we figured we need to have a woman who is there and does stuff like, oh Adam! And she also reads the news. That is obviously Dame Jennifer And she says snide things besides just, oh Adam. Give me an example of something snide? Well in other words if there be some moment where there's something that could be a double entendre She's the one who introduces it. Oh right right right okay That what she said would come from her Yes!

1:43:54 This is gonna be legendary. Now, then we needed... actually we wanted a coach well you can't be coach me to coach for sports and in sports when it comes to Morning Zoo format you want a guy who is familiar with sports but can also be the community affairs director and will call him Coach and has to be a black guy as since we only know one black guy its gotta be Moe Yeah, MoFax is perfect. And he's a sports guy so we can do it and then the final thing is where we're stuck We're stuck and that is the entertainment reporter That has to be a gay guy and has to sound like a gay guy We talked about this and we decided because of today's market you can't have a guy who sounds gay

1:44:47 We have to have a genuine gay person. You gotta have a gay guy, yes. But he has to also sound gay which is a stereotype mostly found on the West Coast it's a West Coast Gay Because everyone in the rest of the country, they bitch at you. I've listened to enough talk shows and podcasts where the gays get together and complain about this accent that the West Coast guys have And it's the Hollywood gay bullcrap, phony baloney gay-ish sound But so we have requirements You have to sound gay but you also have to be gay Yeah, you have to be gay. Otherwise... and we were taking auditions so um yeah I was supposed to have a script ready i won't have it already probably until the Thursday show because we want everyone to read from the same script. I'm gonna hound you over this and we need to get that script up and running. We need to get that script up and running

1:45:41 We'll have a so they have to do this and they have to do it in their best manner. Best man get this, you know, we're up for criticism for even bringing this kind of thing up. Well what's interesting is I'm already seeing but if anybody wants to audition yeah and just so you know the reason why our entertainment reporter has to be gay because that's the rules in Hollywood in case she hadn't noticed You can't play someone on the spectrum unless you're on the spectrum. Everyone knows this now, so we're just following the rules man every day all day without exception Yeah if you go if you watch any of these shows or but The reason that this formula comes to mind is because this is... If anyone has a morning zoo show in their neighborhood

1:46:25 You'll notice that this is pretty much the model that everyone uses because it works. Because its so exciting and fun to listen to! I don't know if its still working that well... And there's a lot of banter between the two hosts and the gay Hollywood guy Oh yeah, totally Yeah, and that's when Jennifer jumps in and says, That's what she said! You know that's just in there. We're talking to the entertainment guy and then Dame Jennifer comes in with that It's gonna be beautiful it will be a piece of legend. We're doing a pilot. We are doing a pilot. A half hour pilot

1:47:03 Half hour? Oh my god. Okay, we're doing a half-hour pilot who's writing this pilot because it can't be well I'll be doing a lot of the writing but most of is just going to be ad libs obviously cuz you know during the mornings Show we I would. I think a lot of these shows have some music No, they have all kinds of music beds running underneath when they're talking there's all kinds Yeah, yeah, we can do that. It was far so it'll be good. I'm very excited might get work It's this is our final exit strategy it's on you anonymous gay guy out there who's gonna save us and they go and these drivers that go out and

1:47:44 And it's every night, it's all over Austin. They're parking they're driving they're comparing their systems and the base is reverberates for miles. Just as you're describing this they have those in parts of California too but that's one of the reasons we are moving But how about this? For our exit strategy Ooh another one! You produce some tapes Or CDs in the case of depends on the gear and you go from you find these guys There's a bunch of them as hundreds other they have these systems and you have them play these things through neighborhoods, which are announcements

CHAPTER 54 / 70 Discussion

Audio Advertising via Car Sound Systems

Inspired by loud car stereos in Austin, the hosts propose a business where drivers are paid to play advertisements through their high-powered sound systems. This "mobile bullhorn" strategy would mimic old-fashioned street advertising for local sales.

austin· car audio· advertising· bullhorns· rayleigh's· exit strategy

1:47:03 Half hour? Oh my god. Okay, we're doing a half-hour pilot who's writing this pilot because it can't be well I'll be doing a lot of the writing but most of is just going to be ad libs obviously cuz you know during the mornings Show we I would. I think a lot of these shows have some music No, they have all kinds of music beds running underneath when they're talking there's all kinds Yeah, yeah, we can do that. It was far so it'll be good. I'm very excited might get work It's this is our final exit strategy it's on you anonymous gay guy out there who's gonna save us and they go and these drivers that go out and

1:47:44 And it's every night, it's all over Austin. They're parking they're driving they're comparing their systems and the base is reverberates for miles. Just as you're describing this they have those in parts of California too but that's one of the reasons we are moving But how about this? For our exit strategy Ooh another one! You produce some tapes Or CDs in the case of depends on the gear and you go from you find these guys There's a bunch of them as hundreds other they have these systems and you have them play these things through neighborhoods, which are announcements

1:48:24 Attention citizens! And it would be like, it would be like those old... Remember in the movies you see the car going down with a big bull horns on its roof? Yes. And they would be, today there's a sale on at Rayleigh's. Asparagus is 99 cents a pound So we're going to become sellers of advertising space in this medium Is that your idea? No one else is doing it Okay, I'll take it into consideration. Where was the horse where was the horse? Was it a farmhorse a drey horse. What kind of horse? Stay safe

CHAPTER 55 / 70 Discussion

Permitless Carry and Ruger Vending Machines

Following the passage of permitless carry laws in Texas, the hosts joke about installing Ruger vending machines at airports. Travelers could pick up a 9mm handgun and a blow-up pillow as they depart.

permitless carry· texas· ruger· vending machines· airport· exit strategy

1:49:33 That's how you do a report. That was the first thing that we need to hijack, that clip from NPR? Why don't people... Whatever happened to people going in to the TV studio and hijacking it? Where are those good old days? I think they put in countermeasures so you can't really do it. Too bad because those days were fun and we could go into this NPR station take over Get out of the way lady you're boring killing us with that nobody listens. What good is it gonna do? There's that okay, okay I'm just trying to think of exit strategies. That's a pretty yeah permitless Yes Permitless carry either out here we read that now You don't need a permit or training just buy a gun just everywhere. That's correct

1:50:20 There's a vending machine you can pick up at Ruger. Oh my god, great idea! I think i will get one going that would be a great business just have a Ruger vending machine on the street. I think so too At the airport... On your way out though of course. Perfect You know we can get those you can get the iPod or you can get an extra battery pack and a blow-up pillow And there is a Ruger! And here's a 9 mil it's perfect That's a good idea. Alright, another exit strategy is in the works we may not even return Thursday. Right place at right time? Yeah yeah what are we doing wrong bro? What are we doing wrong John?! Everything we do is wrong! All right well here's my exit strategy...my personal exit strategy uh I was so happy to hear a U.S Senator speak in these terms

CHAPTER 56 / 70 Discussion

Senator Cynthia Lummis and Bitcoin Retirement

U.S. Senator Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming advocates for Bitcoin as a hedge against inflation and a component of retirement portfolios. Lummis, who owns five Bitcoins purchased in 2013, is helping Wyoming establish its own crypto-banking system.

cynthia lummis· wyoming· bitcoin· inflation· cnbc· exit strategy

1:51:12 It is US Senator Loomis. Who is Loomis? L-U-M-I-S, a newbie? I think she's one of the radical Republicans Radical Republicans? I think... I don't know Never mind what I just said No it could be! Could be, I'm just curious I've heard her name and I think its a woman Yes, she's new. Cynthia Marie Loomis... I think she is one of the new Trumpers. Oh wait! Now she has a full name. It says Cynthia Marie Loomis Wiederspan. Stay safe! Is an American politician and attorney serving as the junior United States Senator from Wyoming IS. She is the first woman to represent Wyoming in Senate A member of the Republican Party, she served as U.S Representative for Wyoming at a large congressional district from 2009-2017

1:52:03 She's all in on the Bitcoin, not just for herself but also for the state of Wyoming. I like this report. Senator Cynthia Lemus of Wyoming is the founder of the Financial Innovation Caucus in Congress she has been a major advocate for cryptocurrencies on Capitol Hill and I sat down with her for CNBC's financial advisor summit and she told me she envisions bitcoin in particular becoming an important component individual retirement portfolios. She believes it can serve as a hedge against inflation at the The size of the nation's debt relative to GDP hits historic highs. I encourage people to buy and hold, I encourage them to save Bitcoin for their retirement for their future and that is because as Congress spends trillions and trillions of dollars

1:52:46 and is flooding our economy, and the world economy with US dollars. There's no way that we cannot debase the value of the U.S. dollars." And Lemmas practices what she preaches – she's an investor in Bitcoin as well! I buy bitcoin and i hold bitcoin You buy bitcoin? Oh yes! you have bitcoin? I do How much bitcoin do you have? Well I only have 5 bitcoins So only five Bitcoin, but she bought them in 2013 for about $300 each. So she can now add a couple of zeros to that number and Wyoming is in the process setting up its own crypto banking system that Lummis hopes will become a model for other states as well

CHAPTER 57 / 70 Discussion

Breast Milk Antibodies and Self-Spreading Vaccines

A discussion on medical research suggests that babies can acquire COVID-19 antibodies through breast milk. The hosts also touch on the concept of "self-spreading vaccines" delivered via exosomes.

breast milk· antibodies· spike protein· exosomes· vaccines· exit strategy

1:53:25 So we have El Salvador, Mexico now Mexican banks now starting Paraguay and no the state of Wyoming with their own. I don't know what's wrong with gold but okay nothings wrong with gold i dont think people are against gold at all but okay seems like they are No that the only thing different between Bitcoin and Gold is it a lot easier to pay with Can I have the antibodies test? So, negative for COVID and negative for antibodies. And she told me... She said there's actually evidence and she was a nurse in hospitals as well that babies that drank breast milk from mothers who had antibodies had antibodies! And I'm thinking exit strategy product

1:54:10 Seriously, I mean it's made by nature. It's tasty. Well if you listen to what you just heard... because that was now again what you just heard with someone got the vaccination right and it was the spike proteins that got into the milk in there so I know I'm just saying that was an interesting side note But this is what she discussed earlier was the so-called self spreading vaccines. We've talked about that, at least we've seen it I think we talked about it briefly and that would be through the use of these exosomes nice! I recently supported a SPAC

CHAPTER 58 / 70 Discussion

SPAC Investment Opportunities and SEC Regulation

A listener's white paper on Special Purpose Acquisition Companies (SPACs) prompts a discussion on high-growth investment opportunities. The hosts express interest in "ten bagger" (10x) returns as a potential wealth-building strategy.

spac· sec· white paper· investment· ten bagger· exit strategy

1:54:46 A SPAC white paper, 250 listed SPACs from 2018 to 2021. For my firm I believe things are developing with the SEC intervention slash adaption to allow SPACs to become more typical a more typical vehicle for public listing Any input from John? Well, I think you're probably right. Can you please send me the list?" Yeah! I want to invest... I mean, you got yeah, I mean, I wanted you can send me a note john at Dvorak, d-v-o-r-a-k dot org and I wanted because i think there's some SPAC opportunities that are Because when these things take off, I mean it's your talking about one week ten bagger is like ludicrous investment

CHAPTER 59 / 70 Discussion

No Agenda Zephyr Economic Indicator

The hosts consider creating a "No Agenda Zephyr" economic indicator for the TradingView charting platform. They suggest charging a $20 monthly subscription fee for the technical analysis tool.

tradingview· zephyr· economic indicator· technical analysis· horvitz· exit strategy

1:55:29 So, yes. Ten bagger? Like $10,000? 10 bagger means 10x. Wow! Exit strategy and bring on the SPACs. You know speaking of exit strategy one presented itself to us just out of the blue Yeah there's a whole Twitter thread this one person is like hey I really like the Noah Jenner show i'm trying to figure out the lingo and Tina the Keeper jumped in you know people explaining what certain things certain things meant But then I got this tweet, haven't replied to it yet. Please excuse the noob question but what is that No Agenda Zephyr economic indicator? I've searched on TradingView but can find nothing of the sort. Now TradingView is a charting program where you can do technical analysis. I was thinking we should have Horvitz make one of those indicators. It's just low code

CHAPTER 60 / 70 Discussion

Texas Abortion Law and Capital Punishment

The hosts discuss the controversial Texas abortion law and the "Handmaid's Tale" comparisons in the media. Adam Curry proposes a "fair trade-off" where he supports abortion rights in exchange for the television rights to broadcast live executions.

roe v wade· texas· abortion· capital punishment· handmaid's tale· exit strategy

1:56:23 That would be the no agenda Zephyr economic indicator. People subscribe to those indicators like you know 20 bucks a month? Yeah, they do just a thought I don't know if that's an exit strategy but it is good idea Just thought i'd bring it up! I like the idea myself That is why there is so much fear in the country about what this means for Roe because it didn't stop Texas and the idea of pitting neighbors against each other, colleagues snitching on each other because someone is desperately trying to potentially desperately trying to safeguard their health and perhaps the health of their unborn child. This is just beyond handmaid's tale.

1:57:08 You got it all right, all right. All right you need to you need to bend over because this is well-deserved That was a great clip great catch Damn Skippy so you're trying to protect the health of unborn baby by killing it I would like to reiterate this point that I am completely okay with abortions as long as we are also, and we get the television rights able to show capital punishment executions live on television. I think that is a fair trade-off. Death for death, we want the rights to produce.

CHAPTER 61 / 70 Discussion

Motocross Injuries and Old Dude Talk

A host recounts a motocross accident on a KTM 450 that resulted in a serious back injury. They joke about starting a podcast for "old dudes with bikes" to fill the void left by the show "Car Talk."

motocross· ktm 450· injury· car talk· old dudes· exit strategy

1:58:02 Well, the one doesn't go it doesn't stop. It just doesn't go it doesn't stop So you get a going? You know he finally gets up to some speed you can't stop the damn thing That's oh that is a death trap I'm glad they took him off the market my last ride was motocross. It was a celebrity ride and I had always written like 125 maybe at 250 they gave me a KTM 450 And I went up on the like, the table jump and I landed and somehow my wrist just kind of went down. And the bike shot off and I've landed flat on my back

1:58:40 And that was it. I couldn't poop straight for a year after that. Weren't we doing this show when that happened? I have no idea, but its such a horrible story... Well let's start off with our donations instead of our tales of woe from the past. Tales of old dudes and bikes! Hey thats another exit strategy. I hear car talk is gone so it can be old dudes with bike talk. Yeah What do you need a special bottle for if you can't get your special bottles once you get the 750s that are very common and available and use those instead of the funny shape 750 that you obviously have custom-made because you can't get them for some unknown reason. It doesn't make any sense this story

CHAPTER 62 / 70 Discussion

Woke Wine and Artisan Boxed Wine Startup

The hosts brainstorm "Woke Wine," a high-end boxed wine brand targeting progressive consumers. The marketing plan includes labels like "Shard" (Chardonnay) and "Cab" in bold black letters, with a "lost dog" motif on the packaging. They discuss leasing the "wokewine.com" domain for $292 a month.

woke wine· boxed wine· franzia· target· shard· exit strategy

1:59:19 Nothing's gonna die in the vats. Well, I actually had a thought about this How about jugging the wine up if you know? No your close your close I'm thinking stay with me because we are uniquely positioned for this This is an exit strategy no agenda box wine think about it well Doesn't have to be shame. I'm game for no agenda box when except for there's a couple problems One, most of these places have bottling facilities on site. The bottling facility to make boxed wines is specialized equipment that would cost more than it's worth Really? I thought well then why do they even put it in boxes if its so expensive and specialized Well thats because you have the franzia and those guys who make the box wine

2:00:05 They're the inventors of it pretty much are France, France. I think some European companies can't just go that's what they have. They have this specialized equipment that makes boxed wines we can't just order from them a whole bunch of boxes you'd had to get the wine to them and they'd have to job it to you Well, this doesn't sound I don't think it'd be a I mean there are other people making boxed wines. I've noticed them You know these different kinds of generic box ones at Target has a bunch of crazy labeled right? This is where we should label in target We should be in target with a dynamite packaging and it should be like you know It should be an Easter egg where people like dude have you tried the new no agenda box

2:00:44 wine it's like that's just really good yeah John C. Dvorak renowned judge, this is what I'm saying. I have had good boxed wines as always French how about no agenda woke wine? There is a possibility of making boxed wine that's quality wine in the United States I've just never had it Right, I'm just thinking ahead. You know for when we're 80? Well... We could have a whole line! I am game for this. I am game to build out a boxed wine company Yes no agenda woke wine would be one Woke Wine! Let's call it that! Well i think we want to have some other sub labels perhaps Woke! Yeah just in big... The wine for you Big black letters WOKE

2:01:34 It's the wine for the progressive liver. Yeah, something like that. And actually progressives believe it or not are the ones who drink a lot of the boxed wines because they don't know any better and they put it in their refrigerator that's what cool about especially the whites you go on the box goes into refrigerator and you're going would you like a glass of wine honey? And you open your refrigerator door and get squirt out some of the boxed wine into a glass and you bring it out just some shard for you. And I say that, shard? Some shard for you? Shard or supreme pinot grigio would be another word. By the way we had a guy at time...I gotta get this winemakers name. The guy was up at the... Wait wait wait! Woke Wine is the wine for the progressive generation

2:02:21 Come on man, I'm feeling it. I mean shard for you. I mean there's a shard It's never ending say that on the side of the label is a shard Shard and cab I'm so happy i got you excited i thought i was not gonna merlot no how about that one Mello. Mello, no! Yes... No? And think about the fantastic art we could have and you know so and by the way we'll put lost dogs on our carton or something We gotta bring in more of these great elements I like a lost dog Yeah it would be huge I like that idea of big black cube though just as the art For woke Just a black cube with the word

2:03:17 Cab on the side and huge letters that like Franklin either no wouldn't be franklin-gothic You'd want some serif font, but you just have it on there because it was super bold super heavy. Yeah I'm so, well shit man someone already has wokewine.com what the hell? Woke... Oh no! There goes our exit strategy No it's still available you can buy it for three and a half thousand dollars or you can lease to own did you read you can lease domain name only two hundred ninety-two dollars a month how much 292 a month its least owned least owned about woke dot wine I think there is a .wine

2:03:59 I think this is, we have a product here and everyone can chip in. Everyone can work about it and maybe... They can chip in? Chip in yes! We probably have a producer that listens to the show that knows all about boxed wines probably works for one of the big wine boxing companies Oh by the way small batch. Oh yeah small batch artisan Artists and boxed wine, there you go. We artists and we need people are patrols are already offering to invest in this project yeah I know

2:04:42 This could be dynamite. There's a type of investment you can do that is where breweries do it constantly and get this straight money in there, boom next thing we're the box wine guys Right, who's gonna run it? Who is going to run the business. Oh we have to hire somebody Yeah I know anyone we know are just gonna do auditions or job interviews Auditions that a funny way of putting it Isn't that what it is? Yeah kinda I think we should put this on the burner It's on the burner ladies and gentlemen! The Woke Wine

CHAPTER 63 / 70 Discussion

Fox Weather Channel and Climate Skepticism

Fox News is launching a 24-hour weather channel, causing concern among climate researchers. The hosts see this as a brilliant business move and joke about joining the network to debunk "climate change nonsense" using cutting-edge display technology.

fox weather· climate crisis· meteorology· shep smith· misinformation· exit strategy

2:05:27 But this is the one that has everybody really worried, and this comes from The Guardian. Just as reliable as The Daily Mail... Fox News—check it out! Is about to launch a 24-hour weather channel And this has climate crisis researchers worried about the channels reach to perpetuate misinformation and advance political goals through the weather This is so obvious I'm pissed at us. I'm pissed at ourselves for not seeing this obvious exit strategy. Yeah, start a weather channel that debunks climate change nonsense! Yes yes what were we thinking? We weren't, we weren't Fox Weather everybody with Shep Smith bring him back A 24-hour channel devoted to all things meteorological

2:06:22 Promises cutting-edge display technology. Hmm! Forecasting experts surrounding every major weather event and I bet there'll be panel discussions. Boots on the ground. Let's bring in our panel. I want to work for this outfit, that looks like fun. Let's bring in our panel we'll talk about it. Yes, we will talk about the weather The wine box, the woke box with the 14 years we felt wouldn't connect. It's too early in the exit strategy when we haven't positioned it yet... By the way in the show notes today Mark Daunt

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Broadway Diversity Pledges and Inclusion Riders

The Broadway community and the Actors Union have signed a 17-page diversity pledge, including "inclusion riders" for creative contracts. The hosts mock the "Woke Awards" and the increasing focus on racial quotas in theater production.

broadway· black theatre united· tony awards· inclusion rider· diversity· exit strategy

2:07:02 I think you're on the email. He did two product shots of the No Agenda box wine known as Woke Wine? Yeah, Woke Wine Oh my god it's so beautiful what he has done It's BORD, B-O-R-D for you and shard for you. I mean it is... this product is real all we need is some hooch to put in it and we can sell there are a bunch of private labelers that maybe can do the job force We need someone to step in because this is big You know there's an Austin box wine company that's doing upscale box wines who knew? Yeah, well this is the thing you have to do be it has to be upscale because that's the key yeah The question is do we spell wine with an H or not? That's no Well He's not yes. I don't think that was his goal It was the trumpet the greatness of diversity all right Let's back it up a little and continue and theater owners and producers in the Actors Union co-signed a 17 page diversity pledge with a group of artists called

2:08:05 Black Theatre United. They've agreed to set up trainings and mentorship programs, and they'll make sure that creative teams aren't all white. And that's something that the Dramatist Guild which represents playwrights composers and lyricists have done as well. They've added in inclusion rider to their contracts And then there's an organization called the Broadway Advocacy Coalition. It just won a... Wait, what did he just say there? Hold on. All white and that's something that The Dramatist Guild which represents playwrights composers and lyricists have done as well they've added in inclusion rider to their contracts

2:08:46 And then there's an organization called the Broadway Advocacy Coalition. It just won a special Tony Award that's working with some current Broadway shows, The Lion King Company, Tina. Jalion Livingston is a member of the group and he says he hopes the training sticks. Oh man! This is depressing... I'd like me a musical This is that was that for there was two three. Oh, yeah Yeah you got two more this is it's worth it It's worth it I'm kind of digging this nut here we go let's exit strategy exit strategy or exit strategy The woke Awards what do you think? Ooh? Yeah? Yeah the woke awards nice. Yeah had Freddie Mac Fannie Mae now Nicky Mack they are collateralizing debt and

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Social Impact Bonds and Digital Identity

Researcher Alison McDowell explains "social impact bonds," which securitize human behavior data for hedge fund trading. The hosts discuss how medical passports and digital identity systems are being used to build a "pre-crime" performance-based social structure.

social impact bonds· alison mcdowell· hedge funds· digital identity· utah· exit strategy

2:09:40 Does it sound anything like... 2008, 2009 where we're going to have all of this stuff built into these bonds. And that's where the money is it's trading these bonds as expertly explained by Alison McDowell So this idea of a social impact bond is essentially reimagining our lives and social relationships as future debt projections whether that's being educated whether that is health care or whether that is housing access or subsidies, food subsidies being involved in the judicial system. All of these have numbers attached to them and then they say well if you can if we can provide an evidence-based what works intervention we will pay this much money which is a smaller amount than we would pay if all these bad things happen to you when we would have to pay a lot more to fix you after the fact. We'll just preemptively fix you

2:10:34 Only the problem is, it's essentially pre-crime. Now the problem is that the terms of these agreements which are essentially privatizing government services, privatizing services that the government should just be de facto providing but then the government through austerity says we can't provide unless we can be assured that it works And so they outsource it to these nonprofits, some of whom are faith-based nonprofits to do these social welfare services under conditions of a performance based contract. The profit isn't in the tiny slice of return on investment. It is actually in the fact that they're going to securitize all the debt and that hedge funds are gonna trade off of that debt. The game can't go unless you have the structure. They can't run the bets unless the game goes on. So they have to build the game

2:11:19 And that game is being built right now. They need all of the data to slosh around in a big pool because they can't justify taking profit off the fact that you didn't become addicted if they can't track that against some intervention, they put you on in middle school All of that data has to interlock and that's what's going to come with digital identity. And that digital identity system is something that the World Wide Web Consortium has been working on for like 15 years, and I had thought it was going to come through education transcript records but clearly now it seems like the much bigger plan is to have it come through these medical passport protocols

2:11:57 And there you go. Oh, Utah ahead of the game. Funny roundabout way to get to the end now and it was good so you brought up the 2008 debacle mm-hmm So what we have to do is figure out what is the equivalent? What's the short default swap? What's the short? No, it's the credit default swaps. Mm-hmm Because it wasn't shorted, they just went under and you couldn't short those things. You just picked up the insurance This is our massive exit strategy Is that what I'm hearing of the plotting over? Beyond an exit strategy this would be a massive amount of wealth The whole NO agenda, get Monation could exit Oh yeah we could pay everyone off We could all exit Excellent Now there's something that you need to know which may offer an opportunity for an exit strategy I know your interested

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Value-for-Value Documentary and Book Project

Dame Angela from Las Vegas is planning a documentary about the "No Agenda" nation and the value-for-value model. The hosts debate writing a companion book, though they express skepticism about the "grind" of the book business and the seminar circuit.

angela· las vegas· documentary· value-for-value· book· exit strategy

2:12:49 I am. Dame Angela from Vegas contacted me and she says, Adam things are going so well you know she has a production company and she's just...Vegas had the biggest revenue month last month of all time not pre-COVID of all time He says the master mandates pretty much gone, all the plexiglass that was separating all the players is gone and everyone you know Adele is now getting ready to perform with a residency. So Vegas is back she's got business says I need to do something and she is going to create and she has the chops for it A documentary about Gitmo Nation The producers specifically And Value For Value

2:13:36 And she's going to set up a website and people can talk about the value that they received from No Agenda, from No Agenda Nation. The value they've given back really about the value for value aspect and she is going to go to meetups and she wants of course interview you and interview me...and then it hit me John! Wow, and I said well First of all how can we help? Well interviews would be great and promoted on the show. Of course no problem How are you gonna make money? How do you gonna fund it just a boy has to be value for value Okay So she understands how to do that And then I thought holy crap this is it if there's one project that Adam Curry and John C Dvorak can pull off for an exit strategy with the companion documentary

2:14:21 It is the value for value book. Throw out the Pepper Book, throw out the Vinegar Book this is the book we could do this and it would be a classic for times. It could usher in a new economic structure What pepper book? I'm just making it up Well... A real book not a giblet! We both have to write it. I can tell you being in the book business at times Books are one shots. They go out, they come out and then they die. They're not sustaining unless you set up a seminar system where every month you have to go on the road and you go to some location

2:15:11 either free seminars or if you want to scam them into buying an upgrade, or some cheap $100 deal where you get maybe 100 people. And you do that time and time again, and then you sell the book at the end of the seminar, it's a dead end. Sorry! Okay, well I can't write the book myself. And that's saying you can't make some money from a book and it would be a good book to do and it's probably something that should be done is you could make some money from seminars too but... You know It's just a dead end as a grind this worst grind than we're doing Well, that's no exit strategy then Not if it's a grind! I thought it could be a fun book though. It could be a useful book We could finally help people get out of the pricing mechanism of Silicon Valley Do it for the children

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Pig Urine Urea and PPP Alcohol

A discussion on the use of urea in industrial processes leads to a joke about "Pasteurized Pig Piss" (PPP). The hosts imagine a canned alcoholic drink marketed to frat houses as a competitor to White Claw.

pig urine· urea· ppp· white claw· stanford· exit strategy

2:16:03 I agree we should do the book anyway. Ah, okay now you're talking let's just do the book listen you know maybe we can set up a Zoom masterclass We'll just do the book. We'll do the book so i'm sure that we have pig farmers we got hog farmers amongst our producers lets get the inside dope yo On the pig piss. You know, the idea that somebody said they're burning pig urine out of the blue which is what triggered my thinking here... Yeah? This stuff doesn't come out of nowhere! No, but the troll room blew up the minute I brought it up They were like oh pig piss pig piss and then I'm reading this article and it says it right there It said- actually it said something a little different didn't it Didn't say this is not true, it said What is it? Pig urine. This is too funny

2:16:59 Here it is. You may have seen rumors, rumors that's you trolls! That it contains pig urine but that is factually incorrect No its true its factually incorrect because this not pig urine per se Exactly Yeah, it's treated as you... It's pasteurized pig piss. Pasteurized pig piss. There we go. It's pasteurized and homogenize for urea. Now can we not create this urea with this? Or that's not the... it's two different things the urea is not the same as the PPP

2:17:40 PPP? Yeah, the pasteurized pig piss. The T3. I think that could become a drink with the water buffalo milk! Oh my god! PPP with alcohol it's the new white claw exit strategy hello yeah If you make a cool can and you put on that canned pig piss, it will sell like crazy. It will sell like crazy! Especially in the frat houses of Stanford Our fraud waste and abuse inspector checked in with me as you know she's out there identifying fraud waste and abuse everywhere she can within the medical sector

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Texas Vaccine Outreach Grants

The Texas Department of State Health Services is offering grants between $50,000 and $1 million for vaccine outreach and education. The hosts discuss the "carnage" of the Omicron variant as reported by mainstream scientists.

texas· vaccine· grants· omicron· camille· exit strategy

2:18:30 and sent me a screenshot of the Texas Human Health Services internal email. Listen to this, second round of grant funding available through the Texas vaccine outreach education program This is an exit strategy for us if we weren't the way we are The Texas Department of State and Health Services is in partnership with Texas A&M health announced the opening of the second round of funding for the Texas vaccine outreach and education grant program. In this round, organization can apply for grants to engage in vaccine education and outreach with a goal of increasing the number of fully vaccinated Texans against COVID-19." Now this is an interesting thing to get one of these grants do you know what these grants range from?

2:19:16 I'm holding onto my seat. From $50,000 to 1 million dollars So to be a promotional operation you can get a million dollars to tell people they get vaxxed of this coin that is starting to make the virus look a little bit more endemic. Now, this might make some people think well sounds like I'm going to get it and it could boost my immunity without a lot of risk so why not just get it over with? But Camille and others say don't even think about it. Get vaccinated and boosted! Even if Omicron's milder It still can be really nasty even deadly Don't forget about long COVID Omicrons going to inflict enough carnage

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Echo Box for Media Messaging

The hosts propose a hardware device that automatically adds an echo effect to television news broadcasts whenever "compliance messaging" is detected. The goal is to make the propaganda sound more like an authoritative "voice of God."

echo· media· messaging· obey· audio· exit strategy

2:19:57 and many scientists caution it's way too early to conclude with any certainty that we'll be on the right road after Omicron. Okay, exit strategy idea We need some kind of box that you can hook up to your speakers And whenever some messaging is coming through like that It puts an echo on automatically That was really beautiful because that's exactly what its intended for You will obey Yeah! That was great Good one Good sweetening job Some of the activities, it was addressed by a child couple months ago that they are put in an environment where there are kids that identify as furry. A cat or dog whatever and so yesterday I heard at least one of our schools in our town has in one of the unisex bathrooms a litter box for the kids who identify

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School Litter Boxes and Final Sign-off

A report about schools providing litter boxes for students who identify as "furries" prompts a final business idea for "human-grade" kitty litter. The hosts conclude the episode, promising to return on Sunday while continuing their search for a definitive exit strategy.

furries· litter boxes· schools· adam curry· john c. dvorak· exit strategy

2:20:49 And I am really disturbed by that. And I will do some more investigation on that, I know it's going on nationwide, I know it is part of the agenda being pushed and I don't even want to understand it but people need to be aware because as a parent I'm upset my child is put in an environment like and you know I'm all for creativity and imagination but when someone lives in a fantasy world that expects other people to go along with it, i have a problem with that. Dude! That's a great clip. This is so...I mean we have furries who are producers of the show we got no problem with that sure yeah we love your furries we gotta we got our trans women we've got everything. Do they expect one of their kids be pooping in that thing?

2:21:37 Well I'm thinking this may be a potential exit strategy. We can have kitty litter, you know approved... For people! For furries. Furry litter which will be approved for children and we'll have it all organically tested to make sure no one's allergic to it and yeah we can actually have a contract EU standards EU standards of kitty litter. Yeah, I'm kind of digging this but i can see where the parents might be concerned. Might have some issue Oh, oh my goodness. Life is great! It's your podcast you put it together you should be very proud of it You'd be very proud that we still can go on our merry way and continue because we are not cancelable through advertising corporate money etc We're not financially cancelable The only way we can go away is either... ...You stop supporting us or we find the real exit strategy I'm still looking for that one

2:22:38 I think we should revisit the human furry kitty litter. Yeah, I think that idea came and went. I think we gotta go back to what you said at the end of that last clip which is we have a re- we have to revisit exit strategies in general make it another show out of it yes That was very, by the way that was very entertaining. You are correct. Yes Sir Conference John Jensen thank you so much we really appreciate that you put that together and again we have sir Deenonymous with No Agenda Search it's bingit.io its clipgenie.com if you want to for your own podcast go check that out

2:23:21 And we will continue to search for the exit strategy. Will it be a book? Will it be a microphone company? Will it be a book that we put a phone in, I don't know... We'll try Hey! We'll back on Sunday with a new live episode if you want to listen live fresh new content from The Boys That Know Agenda Until then coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg Texas In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley Where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak And remember us at noagendadonations.com We look forward to thanking you all on the next episode Until then adios mofos a hui hui and such