Episode 463 · Thursday, 22 November 2012

Dead Hand of Bureaucracy

A deep dive into the theater of international conflict, the militarization of the CIA, and the bureaucratic machinery behind the modern Thanksgiving holiday.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 14m listen | 52 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 463

About this episode

Susan Rice faces intense scrutiny over her Benghazi talking points as the Congressional Black Caucus defends her potential Secretary of State nomination against claims of incompetence. The diplomatic row at the United Nations coincides with a fragile Gaza ceasefire, which critics suggest served as a convenient distraction for Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration during a period of domestic fiscal tension.

Israel’s Iron Dome system is characterized as a high-stakes marketing demonstration for Israel Aircraft Industries, following multi-billion dollar defense contracts with Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Media outlets like CNN and the BBC are criticized for staged war reporting, including a retracted Reuters video featuring a supposedly wounded man in Gaza. Meanwhile, the FBI continues its six-week cycle of homegrown terror arrests, utilizing Facebook surveillance and entrapment-style stings to build cases against individuals recruited via social media.

John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry celebrate a traditional Austin Thanksgiving with heirloom pumpkins and ham radio milestones. The duo analyzes the Dutch Sinterklaas controversy involving Black Pete and the historical codification of the holiday by Abraham Lincoln. The session concludes with a look at the jewel wasp’s parasitic life cycle and a knighting ceremony for the show’s most dedicated executive producers.


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CHAPTER 01 / 52 Discussion

Thanksgiving Traditions, Heirloom Pumpkins and Personal Plans

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the Thanksgiving edition of the podcast from Austin, Texas and a bunker in Washington State. Dvorak describes his family's preparation of a pumpkin pie made from an heirloom pumpkin that resembles a squash. Curry discusses his plans to spend the holiday alone in Austin while his co-host hosts a large family gathering.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· thanksgiving· heirloom pumpkin· austin· washington state

00:00 Well why are they patting down that old woman and that old man? The guy's 90! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday November 22nd 2012 time for your Give My Nation Media Assassination episode 463 This is no agenda Proud to be a lazy an incompetent here in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas In the morning everybody and happy Thanksgiving I'm Adam Curry Hey from uh... the Pacific NW bunker Here I am John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill! In the morning... I saw on the weather it was raining up there. Uh, it's actually not raining at-at the moment You see they lied to me again. I hate when they do that. It's like whoa up here in the Pacific Northwest you can't even see Washington State The window right now? There is no drop coming down. I don't know what their talking about Well I told ya' They're lying They all lie

01:01 So you are up with La Familia in Washington State. Party time! Wooo! Mimi has her high heels on again, is that what you're saying? She's in bed. Oh, she not feeling well? Is she okay? No, she sleeps...she sleeping. Okay. Her and Jay stayed up all night cooking pies. I did like every other Texan. I went to HEB and bought me one Oh, yum. Yeah well I'm all... We actually cooked a pumpkin pie that is from an heirloom pumpkin that actually looks like a giant cucumber and... A pumpkin that looks like a cucumber? I'm visualizing it. No they are actually more like a squash it looks like a squash but it's the giant green thing and the part where the Sun doesn't hit it is the distinctive orange pumpkin color

02:02 But the flesh, the actual meat inside this pumpkin is superior in flavor. So we should at least that's what I'm told. I'll find out later when i bite into the pie Well I'm all alone here and in camp mofo no one here for Thanksgiving. I'm going nowhere after the show That's true No, I don't feel good. Get some hookers! Even the hooker's have somewhere to go. Nobody invites the hookers at Thanksgiving dinner. I think the hookers... there must be like some big hooker Thanksgiving dinner because no one is available. They're like, oh no Friday you'll be first in line Friday but sorry bub

CHAPTER 02 / 52 Discussion

Thanksgiving History, Abraham Lincoln and Black Friday Origins

The origins of Thanksgiving are analyzed, with the hosts characterizing the holiday as "bogative" and historically inaccurate. John C. Dvorak explains that the modern holiday was codified by Abraham Lincoln in 1863 following activism by writer Sarah Hale, rather than originating solely from a 1621 event with Pilgrims. The discussion covers the transition from "Harvest Home" traditions and the commercial shift of the holiday to benefit retailers, leading to the creation of Black Friday.

abraham lincoln· sarah hale· harvest home· black friday· pilgrims· thanksgiving history

02:44 But this of course is a lead-in to an annual thing we do here on the NOAJENDA show, the best podcast in the universe where we explain the bogative nature of the holiday known as Thanksgiving. I present you with the expert of all bogative holidays John C. Dvorak PhD Okay. Um, you caught me? You just, you could have given me more a little heads up so I can jump to the cause I've got if you go to devoreart.org slash blog, you will get uh, and type in Thanksgiving. You will get some of the really great material, some of the great materials on there actually have two posts. Could you stop hitting stuff or is that your keyboard? What are you doing? My God it sounds like you're hitting the table with this stick. No it doesn't. Yes it does!

03:37 Anyway, well the mic is unfortunately way too close to this thing. That's the problem. Okay so Thanksgiving was actually pretty much... The Thanksgiving we have today stems from Abraham Lincoln and there was one event that was documented in the 1600s, one and one only where the Indians were invited to some sort of a meeting and I think they killed them Just the latest information I've gotten. Update, update! Hold on let me just back up for a second For those of you who do not live in the United States of Gitmo Nation or in the United States of Canadias where they also celebrate Thanksgiving but not on the same day we have a holiday here and I will explain to you how this has been taught to children all across the land

04:31 This is the story as children are taught and I can tell you immediately because I was taught in the same way and it's been reinforced over the years. So one year, after the first year of the Pilgrims being in America It was a very hard year. But luckily we had become friends with the Indians who had shown us how to grow corn and turkeys and stuffings. And we were so thankful to them that we sat down at a big meal with turkey, and corn, and stuffings, and pumpkin pies that looked like squash...and then we had a thanksgiving-a meal of Thanksgiving! We all held hands and then went around the table and told everyone what we're thankful for this year. That is the story of Thanksgiving

05:28 Well, that's funny because we never told anybody what we're thankful for. But the story is still basically the same. Okay? Let me read from the post that I did sometime back The term Thanksgiving was brandished throughout the US history and officially codified by Lincoln in 1863 at the behest of an activist writer named Sarah Hale. She's the one before 1863 there was no thanksgiving per se but a lot of proclamations for giving thanks for this and that all called Thanksgiving, there is slew them There are virtually no Thanksgiving events from the Thomas Jefferson administration

06:06 until Lincoln because he hated the whole idea and he wasn't putting up with it at all. It used to be Thanksgiving for the people who survived the wars or for them helping out dying, anyway so there was...the only thing that people kind of liked to believe is that in 1860 I'm sorry 1621 there was a three-day one shot party modeled after something called Harvest Home And it wasn't called Thanksgiving, it was called Harvest Home. It was the end of a harvest party celebrated in parts of the British Isles and that party didn't happen again for... I don't know

06:44 100 years or something anyway, it's bogus the whole thing is bogus That's the point It's a bogus holiday and by the way. Here's a good one I just picked this up. Thank you Yeah, oh and then you mean yeah they they started it as a it was gonna be the last Thursday of November and then once they picked up on the notion that it was the triggering point for Christmas. They moved it up a week to get the merchants more money and this shows you how ridiculous this holiday is, and now the talk is they're thinking of moving it up another week! Really? When did you hear this? This is floating around...they're actually discussing...the Congress is discussing for the benefit because everyone's

07:32 They can't get enough of this Christmas shopping. Yeah, so it may Friday next couple of years It may be the second you know that we like where it is now be a week earlier So they get a weekend of extra shopping well I have a problem right now I have a real problem with was something that's going on and and you know in my new politically correct mode I think that it is a racial issue to call Friday after Thanksgiving Black Friday. I think it should be called either African American Friday or... African! It's not what is... bleh. You know what?

CHAPTER 03 / 52 Discussion

Sinterklaas Tradition, Black Pete Racism Controversy in Netherlands

The Dutch holiday tradition of Sinterklaas and his helper, Black Pete (Zwarte Piet), faces annual accusations of racism in the Netherlands. An activist was reportedly arrested in Amsterdam for protesting the fictional character without a permit. Supporters of the tradition argue the character's appearance is due to soot from chimneys rather than racial caricature, while critics point to its 19th-century origins during a period of systemic inequality.

sinterklaas· zwarte piet· netherlands· amsterdam· racism· st. nicholas

08:10 Around Thanksgiving every single year we go through the same racial crap over in Euro land because it is this time when Saint Nicholas, known as Sinterklaas shows up on his steamship from Spain with his black Pete's. And so just like we have the Thanksgiving story every year We've got that the Dutch are racist a-holes from Holland Arriving in Amsterdam St. Nicholas heralding the start of the Dutch celebrations for Christmas As always since the mid 1800s, he is surrounded by his helpers. Sparta Peten Black Peter According to tradition they carry a book full of names of the naughty children and also hand out sweets The presence of the fictional character in this celebration has sparked a growing row with accusations of racism led by one activist who last year was arrested for protesting without permission Here's the thing did you hear that? This cracked me up when I heard it the second time

09:05 The guy who was protesting this fictional character with his fictional black Pete helpers, was arrested in the Netherlands for protesting without permission. How awesome is the Netherlands? He was protesting without permission! Now listen to the rest of the story... When this tradition was started, the general idea was that black people were worth less than those who are white. We are now in 2012 and we have to admit those ideas from those times Don't apply to now. St Nicholas or Sinterklaas as the Dutch call him has been celebrated for many centuries The Black Peter character was only introduced in 1850 Now get ready because the Dutch have to get around this somehow because you know we still got to be the racist Dutch You know, we can just like get rid of our black helpers

09:55 We are sure that Amsterdam is a very multicultural city and you can't really blame us for racism. When I was a teenager, I had the impression it was racist but not now! They are black because they get dirty climbing down chimneys. Go Dutch! Go Dutch! That's a good one. Don't children, they're black because they climb down chimneys. Mm-hmm yeah Every year they try to get rid of it every single year and I love it now good old dutch Good on you get your black people out there up front and center

CHAPTER 04 / 52 Discussion

Family Thanksgiving Meals, Cereal Indulgence and Personal Anecdotes

A host describes a "mini Thanksgiving" meal consisting of chicken and eggnog shared with his daughter and her boyfriend before they traveled to Corpus Christi. The segment details a morning spent eating sugary cereals like Honey Smacks and Honey Nut Cheerios, which are usually restricted. Plans for the remainder of the holiday include eating merguez sausage and watching television.

corpus christi· honey smacks· honey nut cheerios· mexican family· thanksgiving dinner

10:36 So, anyway. The kids actually showed up yesterday my daughter Christina and her boyfriend Juan. I thought you were by yourself? No well the deal is they came last night so we had kind of like a mini Thanksgiving meal and then Juan's whole family lives in Corpus Christi What is a mini Thanksgiving meal? You had chicken instead of turkey? Yeah that's... You are correct! We had a chicken instead of a turkey And we had eggnog and we got drunk and had all kinds of, you know. This morning I had all the cereal that Miss Mickey doesn't allow because she's not here. You know like the colored cardboard with sugar on it?

11:17 We had that. It's my favorite, you know stuff the coxsack show today honey smacks and honey nut Cheerios What were you doing with those in the house in the first place? I went out and bought him yesterday because the kids are coming Come on The kids are here. I gotta have like nastiness and crap and drinks and the kids are here Let's have cereal let's have crap and booze Yeah And so they got up this morning and they are driving to Corpus Christi where Juan's whole family is. So she's gonna... And you know, Christina really loves big family which she doesn't have of course grass always greener other side thing. She loves doing the whole Thanksgiving thing with the big Mexican family which would be hilarious I was invited too but I'm like sorry

12:04 And so they're coming back Friday. There's so many jokes that you can do with this setup, it just makes sickens me. Where were ya? It sickens me I can't use half the material Why not we got black Pete's We've got Black Friday You can do whatever you want Anyway, so and then the kids are staying through Wednesday. So I'm set and tonight I'm literally I'm just gonna cook up some of the French dude from the markets and was merguez And I got some pumpkin pie from HEB and I'm gonna sit on the couch with my hand in my pants and watch television Because I'm all and maybe I'll pop a couple Vicodin's ah

CHAPTER 06 / 52 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Palindrome Donations and Ham Radio

The hosts acknowledge executive producers and associate executive producers who support the show through the value-for-value model. Notable donations include a $1,212.12 contribution from Dame Molly Kincaid and a $1,122.12 palindrome donation from Sir Robert Rock. The segment also touches on the growing interest in ham radio among the audience, mentioning the "Daily Morse Code" website.

producer credits· molly kincaid· robert rock· palindrome· ham radio· donations

13:42 Well in the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and In the morning to all the knights and dames out there who support this show from the get-go Very good. And all of our artists who are consistently bringing us great art You can find all of that at noagendaartgenerator.com Thank you very much sir Nussbaum for your work on episode 463 We've got another well. We're here we're here on a holiday on the Thanksgiving even though John is actually going to be celebrating and is Going to be cooking and stuff, and and we're here. We showed up for you We try to do that I think this year the holiday season will be here will be on Christmas New Year's every single day because it doesn't those didn't even fall on show days So we're just going for it right

14:30 I also want to thank Nick Durrat for the art for the newsletter. Oh, very good. It was a fun suit and it was really good piece of art. Can I get straight into some racism stuff since I'm on it kind of? Well we have a lot of... We ended up with a lot of contributors so would be I think it'd be amenable to get the executive producers mentioned early on. Let's rock it then! Okay. We have a slew of executive and excuse me associate executive producers With two nights to instant night donations one of 1212 1212 John you've got let's see. There's a long note JCD can read this part if he wants to give a shout out to his son

15:19 credit this donation to molly kincaid uh jason still wants to be a douchebag and he says hello buzzkill junior hot he loves hot diggity dead which is his novel which you can get on on amazon for the kindle I'll read more after i'm done with Halo 4. Anyway, read the note in my best... if it wasn't such a big donation I would try to struggle through this thing. Read the note and your best drunk southern drunk voice. Oh all right are you gonna do that? I think all southerners is just a drunk sound so you can just do a southern accent and talk a little bit like this with a little kind of slur at the end watch the YouTube video first yourself more like girl if you're doing second thought

16:02 Don't I'd hate to be the one who ruins a 2012 last Thanksgiving of all time no agenda podcast because i wanted to work sound like a nerd girl when he read my donation note. Alright first things first hit me with a douche bag right now cuz there's a mess of uh cuz cause I've listened for a few years without giving actually DSC got me here so may have been on the ground floor this thing and And if I don't help, I might be in the smoke and broken mess of another failed podcast. Adam WTC7 won't go away! I know he's reading the notes. So no you guys nobody is going to give us love on Thanksgiving or even listen well the listening part still for grabs You did get a lot of love Or even listen guilt trip finally pushed me over the edge i'm taking care of less donation one fell swoop here's a 121212 donation uh making me an insta dame dame molly

17:01 That's a nice ring to it, but really I had planned to do several weird combo donations and he goes on She's creepy. It can also see myself gathering my friends around the Roku to hear this live This is my command double niggles on the dime mothership ticket podcast license hot juicy too tasty believe donation Here's hoping PayPal gets it in time get my long friend Jason Phillips a douchebag We're both converts from the DSC days, but I beat him to the punch. I'm using this donation PayPal but my money so I guess it should net him some absolution but not much anyway That was a long-winded note from credited to Molly Kincaid Dame Molly and I and uh i'd like to see um...I don't know picture? Where's the picture? Where is the picture? Didn't we have like a huge

17:56 combination of things I had to play for this? That was it, you played it. It was a WTC7 and couple douchebags Okay alright, I'm just trying to keep up with the program here Another donation came in at $1122.12 which...I am not understanding the odd uh... Oh 11-22-12 that's the last date That would be the date today! THAT'S TODAYS DATE! Time to take your bait Sir Robert Rock sent that in without a note and we looked at it. Wait, wait, wait! Robert Rock has done this before? Yeah he just sends us money and then says nothing. Robert Rock is one awesome hombre. He's like I'm a sir don't need... I don't need a bunch of stinking douchebags or anything like that And he's from Anchorage

18:53 Which is yeah, I know. Oh man you gotta go visit him definitely got to go visit him this is uh Yeah well thank you very much sir robert jd from sj california long time boner first-time donor give me a d douchey and the hay citizen huntsman karma And his donation was four six three six four which is a palindrome for the show 463 But he added the 64 to make it more balanced Okay, so did he want a de-douching as well? Yeah. De-douching citizen Huntsman Karma. Okay You've been de-douched Hey citizen! Come, come hidey out ya jigga chingshing You've got karma Alright Rockin it!

CHAPTER 07 / 52 Discussion

Wedding Gift Donations, 463 Club and Knighting Requests

A listener from Christina Lake, Maine, donates to the "463 Club" as a wedding present for her fiancé, Richard Harriman, to help him reach the rank of Knight. The hosts discuss the concept of giving podcast donations as holiday or wedding gifts. The segment concludes with a mention of Baron Von Pelzmacher returning to support the show from Belgium.

463 club· richard harriman· wedding gift· knighthood· christina lake

19:40 congestion. So we have another 463 donation, this is amazing we have four members of the 463 club from Christina Lake in Lisbon Maine in the morning John and Adam I'm donating this amount to The Best Podcast Universe because one it means I am part of the 463 Club and rounding up by 35 cents that's exactly how much my fiance Richard Harriman had left to reach knighthood, crediting all my previous donations towards MC Accounting below. I'm so happy i could get this done for this show because i wanted to wish you a happy thanksgiving and get richer tonight who had before 12 2112 our wedding day!

20:21 It's my wedding present to him. That's a good wedding present I think people should be giving the gift of donations to no agenda show as gifts that is Christmas I mean, that is truly that you know There's nothing like a woman who does that that doesn't just say I love you forever You are my man I'd like to get the uh... today's the 22nd. Oh, 12-21 okay so yeah she wants to get the ring for the wedding. Tell Mimi to get out of bed! Send it right now! Hey Mimi get out of bed right now! Get out of bed do it! We'll work on that and we should be doable please keep up the great work and can I just ruins it

21:06 By getting it, she was requesting an Atlas Shrugged Little Girl Yay Karma for the wedding. Thanks for working so hard! Okay... Alright well congratulations you two crazy kids on your wedding and what a lovely wedding gift it is. That's a beautiful thing that we can mess around with. Baron Von Pelzmacher is in Belgium! Nice, the Baron is back! The Barons back 463 Happy Thanksgiving to the progenitors of the best podcast in the universe FACT!

CHAPTER 08 / 52 Discussion

Listener Feedback, Global Donations and Media Skepticism

Donations arrive from various locations, including Pennsylvania, Indiana, and the South of France, with listeners expressing gratitude for the show's media analysis. One donor, Devin Smith, contributes from France, while another from Virginia mentions using mortgage refinancing funds to support the podcast. The hosts emphasize that their goal is to help listeners laugh at the absurdity of the news rather than feeling frustrated by it.

david hoffman· south of france· alexandria virginia· media analysis· value for value

21:47 Central question is that even on holidays, they continue to hit us slaves in the mouth. Why? Because it's the best way to propagate the formula some karma and a little girl yay for both you gentlemen enjoy your Thanksgiving. Thank You Baron thank so much amigos and then we have let me just do one quick little search here just to make sure as I didn't see Hoffman's thing on here earlier It's so loud. It is so loud! It's like, who am I now? Okay we got... I'm typing! Don't bother me, I'm searching! David Hoffman Sir David Hoffman with no note that i can find it from Nola Pennsylvania member of the 463 William Wilford B Kessler in Lebanon Pennsylvania interestingly enough

22:48 Thanks for doing what you do so I don't have to. To you douchebags out there, please donate already on this day of giving thanks and just think if this podcast ceased to be. Just think if this podcast ceased to be. That's what he is asking rhetorically. As in, uh... Yeah! What would it be if we have nothing to listen to? The work John and Adam do isn't easy and the charismatic pairing of the two is unique. That's for sure. If for some inexplicable reason you think their time isn't worth anything then donate your time worth

23:24 Remember they do it just so you don't have to. He certainly deserved more than just getting by I hope this helps with some antenna funding. Once a little girl, yay karma! Thank you very much, yay! Yay! Antennas! You've got karma So we got a note today from some guy who says, you know he's now thinking of getting... He says it was so cool to hear you key up your little transceiver and then get it hit the repeater and then have it come across the speakers. Or my little machines in my house just so instantly that he got jacked up. And he said, this is great! This technology I'm going to become a ham talk more about ham He thought it was fascinating Well let me just say that the Daily Morse Code dailymorsecode.com It's taken off and there are links on how to become a ham what we're doing and after the show we do a net Daily Morse code? Yeah dailymorsecode.com

24:26 You should look at it because the album art often references you. Yeah, that's figures. The slogan is working random dudes while waiting for JCD to hit the repeater That-that's pretty much what we do. Yeah I hit the repeater next Thursday Right, we'll work and get me set up. How about Sunday? What about Sunday I got things to do I got family here I got there's a million dogs in this place is a There's cleaning that needs to be done. I mean I gotta cook again I'm cooking every night for a huge group of people okay Oh, I'm sorry didn't know that you know yet things to do yeah You've got it. You know things things anyway that You gave me his little girl yay car. Yeah sure did

25:11 Random hillbilly in Elkins, West Virginia which would be where there would be random hillbillies. Doesn't need anything but more drunk John and stone John. Well maybe someday I am here. Ah, what a night! Anonymous in Double Bay New South Wales 30333 This donation should make me a knight you can call me Sir Humphrey Yes Minister If you don't have one already do watch yes minister for politics 101 this is a British or Australian show? I don't know look it up on to yes ministers and yeah must be

25:52 Um, happy Thanksgiving drone game show theme song heard too rarely. He wants you to hear the karma after the drone game when loser drone got it? You remind me of the two cranky Muppets Statler and Waldorf or maybe you are the Woodward and Bernstein of our era President Obama equals black preacher plus Elvis Adam Hey everybody Last bunch of shows have been- this is just random notes by the way. There's no continuity here! I'm- Last bunch of shows have been a very high standard. Well we're falling off the boat on this one. I'm just, I'm drunk and i'm gonna write some letters numbers words

26:32 It's very hard to multitask with Noah Jenna. That's where he thinks it's great and he asked, Where is Leo's donation? Oh that's right. Yeah. Come on night I thought I heard. A thousand dollars alright so what do i do here man do I have a is there a call to action? Drone and karma oh okay oops why does it go like that maybe I should just do it that way that's interesting What? Well, what is like I haven't done the win-lose or drone in such a long time that you know I queued up the wrong one. Sorry! Don't get all angry with me. Sounds like the right one to me. Win, lose, or drone! That's right thank you very much for your donation of $303.33. That means you will not be subject to our game show win, lose, or drone

27:26 Karma. Karma! Jeez... You've got karma. Win, lose or drone? Karma. There you go. Anthony Montgomery. Hopefully no one will ask for that again. Anthony Montgomery in Westfield Indiana 30303 My final installment from 3030303 towards my 121212 knighthood, I decided not to wait until 121212 because it seems right that I should complete this goal for Thanksgiving. Indeed, thank you for your accurate analysis of your red book bull's eyes! I thank you for improving my own thought process when hearing the so-called news

28:08 I'm a fan of history and i know that corruption has always been part of our system. You've helped me integrate that knowledge with what I see in here, in the media most of all thank you for the entertainment this is brought to me instead of anger and frustration I'm beginning to laugh at the absurdity of it all! That's our goal yeah there you go I need no more karma so instead please give yourselves a heartfelt best podcast in the universe from me Best regards may God bless you Okay, now we got something interesting. Devin Smith. Hello for $250 hello from south of France. Oh Stop the press the South of France France Really this this well this first of all this can't be a Frenchman because Frenchmen don't donate and they don't have the name Smith No or Devon for that matter

CHAPTER 09 / 52 Discussion

Baby Announcements, Helsinki Donors and Job Karma

A donation from Ron Pepper includes a hidden message for a friend in France, revealing a pregnancy announcement. Other contributions come from Lori Jutila in Helsinki and an anonymous "job seeker" in Amsterdam who requests "job karma" for an upcoming interview. The segment features various "karma" soundbites requested by donors for personal health and professional success.

baby announcement· helsinki· amsterdam· job search· karma

29:02 Ron mentioned that he hit me in the mouth during last episode's donation. How true! This is my European Thanksgiving donation and I'm thankful for no agenda My wife turned 40 on Tuesday and is slowly becoming a fan He's niece, wants some milk karma Hey, yeah, I hear there are lots of them down there Milk? That's one mother I like You've got karma Nice Nice and nice I love niece Nice and nice Chris McGraw in Alexandria, Virginia. 250. Greetings from Northern Virginia! Yeah you know what that means so I've got some extra cash this month why because my mortgage refinancing closed yesterday so i figured the only honorable thing to do is put the extra cash towards the best podcasting universe on this Thanksgiving day. I didn't heed the warnings from you both on the lifespan of karma so I could use a booster shot to get me through the Black Friday and Cyber Monday marketing bullcrap

29:58 Please give me a Parliament shot to the head, Karma. I'm shooting for that knighthood before the end of the world next month because I want a ring. Happy Thanksgiving. You've got karma. There you go! Meanwhile here is Ron Pepper from San Francisco. My best friend has been living it up in France. Not in the Saskatoon of France for several years now we both decide to donate. Since we haven't found a chance to talk over the phone lately I thought this would have some fun and deliver news during the donation segment of The Best Podcast In The Universe, everybody wins! So on the last show I sent a shout out with a very thinly disguised message but he didn't appear to decode it He should have taken my advice and listened with his wife to avoid that happening She is in the radar for this sort of thing or she's on there...she has a radar

30:53 So here is the same message in a more direct way. It would be perfect if you read it, John, in a JCD deadpan style Here goes! Hey D Guess what? You're having a baby Give us some karma for the baby You've got Karma Nice Did you get that one Devin? They're having a baby! Wink wink nudge nudge Sir Sean Connelly in Naperville, Illinois 200. I just trying to do my part to support the best podcast in universe and sir Sean thank you. Marcel Janota 200 gentlemen sorry about the two donations. I had too much wine and made an error and the initial donation was inadequate exact amount of the nation doesn't have any meaning it was just a balance on my PayPal account which we recommend by the way people get money in their PayPals making money off of it

31:50 Please give a shot at Karma to yourselves. Best podcast in the universe. Hey, what do you mean? How does PayPal make a bunch of money off of it if it's... They've got your money and they're collecting interest on it! Oh really?! Well sure, they're a... you know. What do you think they're doing with the money? I don't know just like watching it for you? Stroking it? No they are putting in there and got it in a money market or something rather and their just collecting money off of them. Money left in there for some reason Really? You think that's what they are doing? You don't think that they leave it there? Just sitting there and just... It is idiotic if they were leaving it there! I wouldn't do business with him if this was true. You've got karma. Just checking

32:32 Uh, Black Knight Eridaderion in Trobocco Canyon California. 200 bucks even though you feel it's a bogus holiday happy Thanksgiving! Thank you It is a bogus holiday I don't think it's bad that this is a bogus holiday No, I like what I'm seeing here And you'll always say it was your excellent, well thought out newsletter. But I think that people really even though they know it's bogative they're saying it's a day of thanks and I'm thankful to the best podcast in the universe and I think that's why we're seeing so many Executive and associate executive producers today. I think it's bogus holidays have a benefit Yeah, we need more we should have our own holiday music come on There's always Father's Day and Mother's Day in the home Hallmark days and fourth of July Christmas has got to be a winner but this This is different. This is a day of thanks and people this is what this is what's warming my heart People truly are thankful for what we do

33:29 This is an outpouring of thanks. This isn't like Christmas, here's a gift you know a tie or socks. Do not send us your socks or your blankets. Or Old Spice. I have actually received that once that was not funny it was not at all. You seem like an old spice guy. Lori Jutila Ojutela in Helsinki, Finland. Here's my donation for show 463 the Thanksgiving edition that donations for a triple threat I'm now an associate executive producer for the show The donation completed at Nighthood accounting provided and i am requesting a birthday call out as my birthday is on the 22nd today! I'm thankful for the work you do the analysis entertainment insights you provide twice a week are valuable very much appreciated can get a Huntsman Karma

34:21 You can take that to the bank. Best regards, Lori." Yes. Nice! Yes, Lori you can get that if you send a picture. Helsinki... Come on this is hot Finnish babes. She's just sitting up there and then I just have visual of Finnish babes. Lovely! Okay well give her thing. Yeah yes that's exactly what i'm saying let me give her thing. You've got karma Thanks, Lori. Daymore! Now we have an anonymous donation of 200 bucks from the Job Seeker in Amsterdam. Need some job karma to make sure that a job interview I recently had will come through? I'm at my wits end with my current job and I am spending far too much on whiskey... ...to cope with... What?! I'm spending far too much on whiskey to cope at the end of the day okay so maybe also add a dap of liver karma

35:20 Combine this with a MILF and two to the head. You're drunk, the guy's drunk he's obviously drunk. That is not a good combo! I made boom. You sexy milf from me shooting the head. Makes no sense! That concludes our broadcast day. Outstanding contributions for today's show, 463. I am very very happy thank you all so much for doing that

CHAPTER 10 / 52 Discussion

Iron Dome Domain, Australian Skeptics Conference

Adam Curry discusses registering the domain "irondouche.com" following the eight-day conflict in Israel involving the Iron Dome system. Additionally, a listener named Maynard announces a meetup in Melbourne, Australia, during the Australian Skeptics National Conference. A 38-minute YouTube video compiling show clips is also highlighted for its production value.

iron dome· irondouche.com· maynard· melbourne· australian skeptics

36:00 And we have, so we already thanked Mr. Nussbaum and Nick the Rat for our art there was a... We can also assume that on Sunday's show will have no donations whatsoever So now is the time you can sneak in that cheap executive producer bid $201 You can get it now while the goings good. A couple of PR mentions that kind of slipped through on the radar here. By the way, I registered a domain name to go along with it. Who knew that Iron Dome was going to end after eight days? You know, I'm really disappointed because I registered irondouche.com

36:42 Which of course forwards to noagendashow.com like that's an evergreen iron douche It's like everyone has an iron something we have an iron douche, irondouche.com so that kind of fell flat Maynard there in Down Under He is going to be in Melbourne on the 28th presenting the how not to get a radio show with the ABC to the Australian Skeptics National Conference. ABC of course is the Australian Broadcast Corporation and Maynard is a big supporter of the show in Australia, and he says while I'm in town I am going to put out for any listeners of no agenda or skeptic to get together have drink argue about harp etc

37:24 So it will be held at the Penny Black in Brunswick at 630 p.m.. And that is on the 28th and Just see you can probably just Maynard has a blog somewhere I'll put a link in the show notes, and I'm sure he'll be updating that so make sure you check that out there was a YouTube video which you have to see it'll be in the show notes under PR someone put together a 38 minute YouTube video John you have to see this thing And it's basically everything we gripe about, but all of the videos with us kind of in and out between it. The audio doesn't even make any sense but its an outstanding piece of work It makes us look a little crazy because it doesn't really have any deep analysis that we do But is something worth taking a look at and worth sharing

CHAPTER 11 / 52 Discussion

NBC Up All Night, If You See Something Say Something Jingle

The hosts react to a scene from the NBC sitcom "Up All Night" that features a "neighborhood watch" melody similar to their own "If You See Something, Say Something" jingle. They jokingly accuse the show's writers of stealing their audio branding. The segment concludes with a thank you to the live chat room participants.

nbc· up all night· jingle· neighborhood watch· sitcom

38:15 And finally, I would like to say big in the morning to the writers of... ...the program... What is it? Up All Night. This is a...I think this was on NBC's Up all night Is this...are you familiar with sitcom? No. Alright, yeah, up all night So, Up All Night had their holiday Thanksgiving episode and at the very end there's a scene And in this scene, there's a turkey carcass on the ground and the neighbors are all standing around it. They're trying to figure out who would have done such a heinous thing as throw a turkey... I mean it is a stupid show obviously that's why we don't watch it but what happened in those last few minutes of the show was rather interesting It's disgusting! Makes you wonder who your neighbors are Who would throw an entire turkey carcass on the street? Savages probably right

39:11 No way to behave in a society. Come on, why do we have a neighborhood watch? If you see something say something Hey and it was almost on uh in the right melody What do you think I think-I think it had to come from us Could be. I mean it wouldn't surprise me there's a lot of writers of some of these shows that listen to our show but i've never heard anyone... Many times looking for ideas yeah let's hear it again if you see something say something If You See Something Say Something! I think its pretty close

39:47 That's close. We'll give him credit as thanks for stealing our jingle! Hey, thanks a lot guys that was cool and of course big in the morning to everyone here in the chat room who showed up for all the human resources who've shown up our big Thanksgiving bogus holiday extravaganza and we appreciate you being here. And of course to our executive producers and associate executive producers, these are real credits! You can join the Producer's Guild of America, you can put it on your IMDB... Unlike the douchebags in Hollywood, we will absolutely vouch for you that you were an exec or associate executive producer on this show. And of course, you can always go out and propagate The Formula Our formula is this

CHAPTER 12 / 52 Discussion

Susan Rice, Benghazi Talking Points and UN Diplomacy

The potential nomination of Susan Rice to succeed Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State is criticized following the Benghazi attack controversy. The hosts analyze Rice's reliance on "intelligence community" talking points, which they argue were intentionally misleading. They describe her diplomatic style at the United Nations as arrogant and snotty, suggesting she was set up to fail by the State Department.

susan rice· benghazi· united nations· hillary clinton· intelligence community· cia

40:30 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. And there you go. Alright now can I get back to racism? Because i'm on a racism thing today Well, I got a curiously racist clip. Oh awesome Let's hit your races clip where is it? Really a racist flip the analysis leads to a racist analysis okay by the way did you hear what you do just go interesting things would well You'd go with with your race thing and I'll try to come back with something all right. Well done. All right. I'll hit my race name

41:19 So Susan Rice, who is the US ambassador to the United Nations... Who I despise just in general. Yeah why do you despise her? Do you have any reason for this? Yeah because she's an arrogant lying douche knuckle! Okay, I mean you know but of course me saying. I despise her these days You know I'm sexist and racist that's pretty much what I'm hearing everywhere so when we have not just one but apparently I think 97 Senators have come out and said President Obama you cannot nominate Susan Rice

42:03 for The to be the successor of Hillary Clinton because she screwed up this whole Benghazi thing where she went on all the talk shows the Sunday talk shows and she Came up with a story which pretty much was bogatyr an ally And so the response from many people yes well Well, I make sure to mention that she claims that this was talking points provided to her by the CIA which the CIA patently rejects and our thesis is that Hillary

42:40 set her up to fail with the bogus talk. That's my opinion. Is there something new? Well, no thank you for bringing that up so she came out with a statement where she said hey man I was just doing what i was told but she doesn't actually say CIA she says something else which no one has really picked up on even though it's very prominent as to what she is saying. the full range of national security issues of the day, which at that time were primarily and particularly the protests that were enveloping and threatening many diplomatic facilities American diplomatic facilities around the world. And Iran's nuclear program I did not know she talked about Iran

43:33 She's saying Iran, which means she is lying because it would have been Iran. And she did not talk about Iran at all as far as I know but here it comes! The attack on Benghazi and our facilities in Benghazi was obviously a significant piece of this when discussing the attacks against our facilities in Benghazi I relied solely and squarely on the information provided to me by the intelligence community. Now, I ask you John what is the intelligence community? Is this like a club where we can go check in and have a drink? Is it a social network? This is the biggest bunch of bull crap! And no one's saying excuse me

44:14 The intelligence community could be CIA, FBI, DNI, DHS. It can be so many things the intelligence community she's not saying anything here! Anything and she does it again I made clear that the information was preliminary and that our investigations would give us the definitive answers. Now notice this... She didn't make it clear, if she was making it clear we wouldn't be arguing the point! Everyone particularly the intelligence community There is again everyone its a one everyone The intelligence community John as an expert schooled in organizational charts what is the intelligence community that would give her this information? Is just who is that

44:59 Hillary Clinton has worked in good faith to provide the best assessment based on the information available. You know, the FBI and the State Department's Accountability Review Board are conducting investigations as we speak and they will look into all aspects of this heinous terrorist attack. Heinous! To provide what will become the definitive accounting of what occurred. Definitive, like the 9-11? She has a grating style of speech That would be another reason why I dislike her It's the way she talks. I mean it is grating to listen to her she so... she's snotty But it's funny because well she IS snotty and you know

45:41 She's arrogant and I've seen her because they have this thing called the United Nations They have a camera set up and they call it. It's like a weird name like a Entrapment, but it is it's a strange name where? where you walk out of the assembly room and you walk straight into the press onto the podium. And I'll have to look it up what they call those little speeches, but because I watch a lot of this stuff so you don't have to You see that the preamble before the questions start and she'll be like, you're not doing too close are you? Okay zoom out a little bit This is literally the kind of stuff she says because she wants to look pretty

CHAPTER 13 / 52 Discussion

Racial Rhetoric, Congressional Black Caucus and Susan Rice Defense

The defense of Susan Rice by the Congressional Black Caucus is examined, specifically the claims that criticism of her is rooted in racism and sexism. Representative Marsha Fudge and others are shown labeling words like "incompetent" as racial code words. The hosts contrast this with the tenure of Condoleezza Rice and feature a critique from Michael Meyers of the New York Civil Rights Coalition regarding the use of the "race card" in 21st-century politics.

soledad o'brien· marsha fudge· james clyburn· racism· sexism· condoleezza rice

46:19 You know, and it's just like, ah. It's confirming my statement that politics is show business for ugly people and she's not even that ugly but she's ugly on the inside So here of course is, you know we've got a problem with Susan Rice being nominated to follow Hillary Clinton which may even be the reason why Hillary as you I think correctly have analyzed. Why Hillary gave her these falso talking points so that she cannot become And Hillary's probably called all the senators and said, no not her. While Hillary Clinton navigates the complex politics on the ground in Gaza President Obama's top diplomat at the UN is facing angry politics in Washington Angry? Ah this a code word here how it starts

47:07 Susan Rice, the president's UN ambassador and a leading candidate to replace Clinton at the State Department has been subject to withering and sometimes outlandish attacks from a wide range of Republicans. Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham two foreign policy leaders for the GOP have slammed Rice for her initial comments about the source of Libya attacks with McCain... By the way that is journalistic term slamming. That is how we talk in news today. slammed Rice, threatening to filibuster her if she's nominated. Many other Republicans have joined in 97 members of the House sent the president a letter Monday opposing Rice. Okay 97 so that's quite a bit

47:47 So this of course, we need some conversation because there's angry stuff going on. Ooh code word! Let's go to our buddy Soledad O'Brien on CNN who sets up Representative Clyburn so he can just say it the way it is in a bunch of racist pricks. A black caucus incoming chair Marsha Fudge who you know well says that she actually thinks that this is more about the fact that Susan Rice is a woman and she's black Would you agree with what she's saying that there is a racial or sexist component to a lot of these comments? Or would you say, as the letter seems to say they use the word incompetent and they use the word undermining the desire to improve U.S relations Now let me ask you question John The words incompetent and undermining perhaps even lazy What do these words mean to you? It means she is a black woman

48:43 not helping we have to vote for her because she's a black woman we don't need a black woman here we go you know these are code words code words ah it's code word. We heard them during the campaign During this recent campaign, we heard Senator Sununu calling our president lazy and incompetent. These kinds of terms that those of us especially those who were born and raised in the South, we've been hearing these little words and phrases all of our lives and we get insulted by them.

49:22 We got a stripe, a couple of more words off the list. John please add the L word and the I word to the list you can no longer say lazy or incompetent and here is Marcia fudge of the Congressional Black Caucus as she did a little press conference to yell about this. Can it? Can I interrupt this train of thought for a second? Yeah What gender was Condoleezza Rice? Now I believe she was Secretary of State. Yes, that would be correct. She was a woman, I believe... Well the jury is still out on that And I think, and could be wrong but i think she's black! And even might have served for a Republican president

50:18 Yeah, and by the way where is Condoleezza Rice standing up and saying this is bullcrap You don't hear her doing that and she's happy to talk on you know to promote football jerseys Let's listen to a Marsha fudge. There is a clear in my opinion a clear sexism and racism that goes with these comments that are being made by Unfortunately senator McCain and others Unbelievable it's just unbelievable And I was so delighted When I saw on Fox News, Michael Myers who is from the New York Civil Rights Organization.

51:05 And he just laid into all of this in a one minute pet peeve of the day that I just love. Obviously she is the flunky for the president United States and we all know that Oh, did I become racist and sexist by saying it? You know, I want to reply to that Congresswoman from the congressional black choir about her opinion as right here. Sex choir called The Correctional Black Choir because they sing the same old song or same old siren songs racism and sex and sexism and wire separatists require They sing the same old song. And this woman, in my opinion is racist and sexist... Well your opinion to use a rap word Congresswoman is ludicrous! I am so sickened by this unrelenting, this ceaseless, this craven cry of racism and sexism every time someone disagrees with them. She's like the fall guy in this situation

51:58 in the 21st century of a congressional black caucus, to me is offensive. They should go out of business because they still judge people and talk about people on the basis that their skin color. Why do we need a congressional black caucus in the 21st century? Why do we need to have uh... racially gerrymandered districts so that blacks can elect blacks, asians can elect asians and latinos can elect latinos. We have lost the culture- it isn't us! we have lost the culture and we've lost a country. There you go. I love that! Is a black man saying what a white man can say? Yeah, well because we're so racist. But they won't say it? Well correct we won't say it because then you get branded as a racist and the Holocaust denier and whatever else in the moon landing denier yeah well this is what happens this is what happens really it's bad It's very very bad was happening So uh... We need more people like this I mean where by the way are these is the congressional black caucus saying hey wait a minute somebody set Susan Rice up

53:02 That's what they should be doing. I know, they're too dumb to do that Yeah true So anyway so that is our It's easier to pull the race card just blame everybody and let's just remember Condoleezza Rice But then let's just pull this card, which is so ludicrous with the fact that Condoleezza Rice was a longtime Secretary of State. Black woman same thing So why all of a sudden is that everyone hates black women? Well they don't like this one woman Black or whatever if she was not black it wouldn't make any difference to me It's really really disturbing and uh...this is

53:39 America has always been branded, particularly by Europeans by the way. Many Europeans who actually sailed the slave ships from Africa. America is still branded as the most racist... You've got KKK! Don't go to the South they're racist they'll kill you! This is a perception that has propagated and I'm sorry but I am just not going to accept it anymore Political leaders propagate this. Turn on the television, if you must and look at the characters Look at what is being portrayed in the so-called modern arts This is not true We have completely accepted it but you don't like that You need to start and continue to separate us So its being thrown on us Its been propagated

CHAPTER 14 / 52 Discussion

Alan West, Tea Party Symbolism and Election Loss

The political career and recent election loss of Florida Representative Alan West are discussed. Media commentators are heard describing West as a "symbol" of the Tea Party who was "played" by the movement. The hosts question the narrative that the Tea Party is racist given that West, a Black Republican, was one of its most prominent figures.

alan west· tea party· florida· republican party· election results

54:30 It's quite odd. Well, the hypocrisy is what gets me so here are my stories So we have Alan West who I never liked him he was a Republican in Florida who was just a warmonger it seemed to me and you know nothing but trouble, but he was very entertaining. And I have two clips and then i'll ask you a couple questions about this. Allen West is a black marine. He's a marine black guy. A straight talker republican. There are a lot of black republicans that don't want to admit... Nobody wants to face that fact. But anyway, play the clip of him then he lost his election seat that he had uh it was a tea party guy and he lost his seat here we go out in class warfare and alan west was just you know a symbol of that he allowed himself to be used by the tea party movement

55:19 as a symbol of their movement to help them advance that cause. And unfortunately, he got played and he is going home. Yes indeed. Joy another man of unique political genius Joe Walsh of Illinois has also lost and he's going to be going home very soon does this indicate that the Tea Party in the house is literally falling apart? You know, I think it's interesting because um...I agree. Alan West was probably the most potent symbol of the Tea Party in part because in Florida he was the tea party He was their favorite candidate and embodied all of the belief systems that they wanted to put forward The whole idea of shrinking government The abject hatred of Barack Obama who literally said he can't stand and described as a despot

56:04 uh... and and so his ideas were synonymous with the tea party i think both he and walsh losing is symbolic of the tea party having risen so high taking really taken over the republican party ideologically in that amazing election twenty ten twenty ten and he won in twenty ten he wanted a district it was a swing district where he's going to win I get that point has been made yeah but yeah ok so here let me ask you quick question now if im not mistaken these same idealogues on the democrat side of the aisle Weren't they all telling us what a racist party the tea party club, it's a drinking club to drink tea. The drinking club, the Tea Party Drinking Club was a bunch of racist A-holes? Yeah Now how has Alan West become this symbol of the Tea Party movement and B according to this woman he got played

56:57 He was a not only a symbol but he was the Tea Party in Florida. Right, so how did he get played? Was the party and how is it of racist situation if he a black man Is the symbol of the... This whole thing is so ridiculous listening to these people blather on about this stuff. It's actually sickening Can we move on to Jew hate or something? Because there is so much more hate in the world John I mean, do you have more on the left? Do you have any Jew hate? Yeah I got tons of Jew hate this week Oh good. Yeah, do you want to do the second Allen West clip or is that? No no that's fine I think we got enough out of Allen West but I have the Rockin' Set Jerusalem clip which might have something to do with the hatred... I'm not... yeah and i think you're moving in the right direction

CHAPTER 15 / 52 Discussion

Israel-Gaza Conflict, Media Theater and Jerusalem Missiles

The hosts characterize the eight-day conflict between Israel and Hamas as "theater" for domestic political consumption and military promotion. They critique British Foreign Secretary William Hague's statements regarding long-range missiles targeting Jerusalem. The segment suggests that journalists in Gaza are participating in a staged propaganda war where explosions are timed for the cameras.

william hague· jerusalem· hamas· israel· gaza· cnn

57:42 Mr. Speaker, I declare an interest that I've just returned from a visit to the Brazilian authorities and to Israel The Foreign Secretary's call that Hamas bears the principal responsibility for the crisis And could end the conflict by stop bombarding Israel was attentively heard However does he agree with me That the use of long range imported missiles by Hamas Capable of striking Jerusalem Has made this much more difficult to achieve Yes, absolutely. It is clear that the armory of rockets in Gaza has changed since the time of Operation Cast Lead and there are now longer range rockets we've seen them launched at Tel Aviv and in at least one case

58:24 Jerusalem, of course that is an escalation of the threat to Israel but it only underlines the importance of taking forward all work on a negotiated peace and settlement in the Middle East which has been supported across the house. So here's, this is our buddy Haig. Alexander, Christopher or whatever his name is. I don't know what it's called. Hank? Hank Hague. The foreign minister of the Great Britain. Does anybody for a minute believe that they're gonna shoot...I mean either one of these groups are going to start bombing Jerusalem? Well hold on a second

59:06 Now, a lot happened since we last spoke on this program. And I have been... So there's...I have a number of observations. I think we've jumped a little too far with this. You went straight into it. We got to back up a little bit. First of all, I have been following this from all aspects. I've had CNN MSNBC ABC Fox even MSNB even CNBC the tweeters including that kind of hot woman who's the spokeshole for IDF Israeli Defense Forces she's kinda hot in a milfy kinda way and she tweets kinda sexy

59:51 She tweets sexy? Oh yeah, she just... I don't know. She tweets Anderson Cooper and she's like all kinds of stuff. Now she got a little... I don't know there is something about her that I like but i've been following a lot of blogs from citizens in Israel and you know I'm gonna come out right now It's time, Israel. Would you please go in and just... You're all saying it! This is universal that you just want to kill them all so please do it! Just roll over everybody flatten the whole thing get on with it already because I wanna watch other things on the news this is really pissing me off everyone's like... I'm so sick and tired of this

1:00:41 Who gives a crap about who's doing what to whom there? I don't care anymore. This is one... You're not meant to care! Let me finish! This is theater for the voting public of Israel, it has nothing to do with anything this is bullcrap this whole thing. I was leading up to that but you want to take the wind out my sails? Is that what you wanna do? You wanna let me get into my rant?! Well, I thought that was a good give and take. Did you wake up and think I'm going to talk to Adam? He's an idiot he doesn't get it is that what you were thinking? No but i'm looking at you're talking about Lieutenant Colonel Avital Lebovich Yes that's the one yeah she's kind of

1:01:20 You're crazy. So here is Anderson, so I got a whole bunch of things to show you that this is not only for the voting public that this thing is the majority of this entire eight-day war is one big bogative promotion campaign for politicians and for Iron Dome and they don't give a crap who dies because of it. Yeah some people here some people there who cares? And by the way If this was a real war, then someone... if you really want to make an impression you've got to blow up one of these CNN journalists. They're standing there in Gaza and clearly know where they are You have the coordinates so you're blowing stuff up behind them. You can't even see... not even blowing stuff up but lighting firecrackers in the background Please! Please kill a CNN journalist

CHAPTER 16 / 52 Discussion

Anderson Cooper, Reuters Video Retraction and Media Credibility

CNN's Anderson Cooper is featured retracting a video segment that allegedly showed a wounded man in Gaza who was later seen standing and conscious. The footage, sourced from Reuters, is cited as an example of the "media war" where both sides use staged images to influence public opinion. Cooper admits the network could not independently verify the timeline of the images.

anderson cooper· cnn· reuters· gaza· propaganda· video verification

1:02:10 Could it please be Wolf Blitzer if I could choose? And here is... He won't go over there. He's there! What are you talking about, Pooper?! Wolf Blitzer is there. Yes, Blitzer is there. He can't even read the freaking teleprompter and Pooper is there and I told you about all the fake video that is being held in this propaganda war Here's Pooper retracting the video because all they have You never see anything happen live It's always oh we got some video and it's always from Reuters. Last night we aired this Video showing a man being pulled from flames in Gaza. After the video aired, we were pointed to an Israeli website that showed another image this image the man who was being dragged standing and conscious The allegation made was that the man was playing for the cameras when he was seen dragged away

1:02:55 and was not in fact wounded. Now the video we aired came from the news agency Reuters, and their feed to us did not include the image obviously of the man standing We asked Reuters about it today they said they don't know the source at the image a man standing or when that image was shot They also said that they never saw or shot any similar images The bottom line tonight is we can't independently verify when that image of the man standing was taken. If it was taken before or after the other image was taken, of a man being dragged away We obviously will not be using either image again This is not only a traditional military conflict but one that's being waged in the media as well Really? And our only goal in all this is to report the truth Oh! The facts on all fronts That's why we've sent so many reporters and producers into the field No, no you think...

CHAPTER 17 / 52 Discussion

Iron Dome Promotion, Missile Defense Sales to Qatar

The conflict in Israel is framed as a high-profile demonstration for the Iron Dome missile defense system. CNN's coverage is described as a promotional tour for Israel Aircraft Industries. The hosts link the "success" of the system to recent multi-billion dollar defense contracts with Qatar and Saudi Arabia for similar American-made missile defense technology.

iron dome· missile defense· qatar· saudi arabia· cnn· radar

1:03:39 Yes. I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I What? He sent all... Yeah, they sent all those to report the truth. If they want to go where their action is, go to Afghanistan! These guys are obviously there's nothing going on and they wouldn't send all these reporters There is something going on and it's the promotion for The Iron Dome. The defense system had just been installed in Israel's largest city a few hours earlier. Several days into the conflict its already clear The Iron Dome is having a big impact picking off hundreds of rockets I got a tour of the Israel Aircraft Industries plant that assembles the air defense system. Deployment is a matter of minutes. Dr. Israel Osnovich is one of those in charge, one key element is an advanced radar. The radar searches locates tracks and intercepts and guides the intercepting missiles within

1:04:33 several seconds, few seconds within the launching time. So they have this whole package which is like eight minutes on CNN? I just said... Did you say...? Okay, let me interrupt you for a second I just sent you an email with the demo reel on this piece of crap that they're talking about which makes zero sense. What they've got, you gotta take a look at this video and then incorporate into what your'e talking about Alright well do something for yourself and i'll watch this video then Oh! This is... I would just describe it to people there's radar their talking about There's little radars, its got little thing on side of tank And so they are showing, the demo they show Is one of these little rockets Where? The tank has bubble around it

1:05:14 Yeah, well that shows the bubble of safety. It's like the dome of silence Is there voice over with this? With this video? No it was just stupid music I wish there was voice over because it would have been good to make a play Oh here comes the rocket! Anyway, the rocket comes in. His radar talks to the rocket at the very last second and then the rocket veers off and hits a wall. Here's how it goes... Hey Rocket! This is Radar calling. Yes what do you want? I wanna talk about not coming through my dorm of safety.

1:05:54 That's literally how it goes. Exactly! But of course we still, you know by the way we sold another one of these THOD things remember? We sold the last one to uh was it Jordan no Qatar Yeah, 6.5 billion we just sold another package 6.5 billion to Saudi Arabia and this right And I think this is part of the whole deal isn't you know we say hey man? You know here's here's a little uh He's a little demo what this thing can do and everyone's in on it Here's the CN the CNN's hold on a second where's the was there was some great promotion wait first This is this is the BBC

CHAPTER 18 / 52 Discussion

BBC World Service, Staged War Reporting Parody

The hosts parody the dramatic style of war reporting used by the BBC World Service and CNN. They play a clip of BBC reporter Jon Donison reacting to an airstrike in Gaza City, which they suggest follows a predictable script designed to create a sense of danger for the audience. The segment mocks the "be safe" platitudes often exchanged between anchors and field reporters.

bbc world service· jon donison· gaza· war reporting· parody

1:06:33 Because we never see it live. The BBC was able to do a radio version, which I thought was pretty funny Because you never see the camera wasn't working. Well, no it was BBC World Service So this is kind of the the cool thing about this You never see a live shot where at the actual rockets are coming down right they always say two minutes ago We just saw this happen It just happened over there But they never show it to your life you have now it's too bad The war ended but maybe this ceasefire will quit and so the BBC of course is doing this in audio for their

1:07:11 for the world service and it sounds like one of the reports, in fact let me do this. We're gonna do a report right? And then we're going to play you the BBC World Report which supposedly actually happened how does that sound? And then you say see if I can tell the difference now now I'll be the reporter and you'll be at home base Okay, and you okay we're here at the London but we've got wait You remember what the most important thing? You have to say member when I do want to make sure on what have to do What if your safe be safe it'd be safe. Do you see ya? Okay We've got Adam Curry

1:07:50 In the Gaza Strip right now. No, I'm sorry where are you Adam? I'm in Israel Okay, you're and you're in there You're writing the line of fire as a missile and it looks like something's coming here and luckily we have Wow, I've never heard this impact is so amazing We had the rockets incoming! I don't know what to do! Sounds like a close call there Adam Say it. Say be safe. Adam, you okay? Be safe! I was cueing you man, cueing you. Alright here's the BBC version.

1:08:43 massive hair strike now right in front of me probably 2 or 3 kilometers away from where I am in Gaza city huge plumes of smoke, huge bushes John are you alright? Yes, we're all fine here but that is about a kilometre from where we are. We think you should... There's massive plumes of black smoke. John we think you should take cover thank you for the moment well we think you should take cover John be safe and will return to later that was Jon Donison I'm telling our reporter on the same script our our thing you should take over Adam and be safe you idiot so so i'm watching Aaron Burnett

CHAPTER 19 / 52 Discussion

Ben Wiedemann, Yellow Cake Reporting and CNN Fixers

CNN senior correspondent Ben Wiedemann is criticized after a hot-mic moment captures him joking with a producer during a "scary" report from Gaza. The hosts trace Wiedemann's career from a local fixer in Jordan to the reporter who originally broke the debunked story about "yellow cake" uranium in Libya. They argue that many high-level correspondents lack traditional journalistic credentials and function as state mouthpieces.

ben wiedemann· cnn· yellow cake· libya· cairo· journalism

1:09:30 And because, you know I'm home alone obviously. So we're all serious and we have this guy his name is Ben Wiedemann and Ben Wiedemann is a very interesting guy because he's the senior correspondent for CNN. They cut to him and he's not ready in fact he's talking with the producer about dinner And this is supposed to be all scary and stuff. I caught this, and immediately recorded it here. Many of the people in Egypt obviously don't support working with Israel at all... ...and within the past hour there were several explosions in Gaza City Let's get straight to our team bear. Keep your nose out of the car

1:10:24 Obviously looks like we're having a little bit of problem with that shot, but we'll be getting... So he's talking about I had my nose in the feed bag and the producer there on the spot. He's like laughing and the producer is going like yeah We were all the trough and then Aaron's like obviously we're having some technical difficulties Yeah Because it's not scary The whole thing it may even be green screen for all I know And then I'm like who is this Ben Wiedemann A-hole? Who is this guy And I look into it, he is the CNN from his Wikipedia's. He is the CNN senior correspondent in Cairo but where did he come from? His father a retired diplomat spent most of his childhood outside of the United States at least clearly from a spy background but he originally was hired by CNN as a local Jordanian employee The job was fixer producer and sound technician and now he's this senior correspondent John

1:11:18 They do this all the time. Nick, that guy Nick Robertson I think his name is? He was the satellite engineer! It's like these guys who are clearly have no journalistic credentials whatsoever get these big titles and get to do all this stuff and then i'm like what else has Ben Wiedemann done well ben wiedeman Was the guy who reported here it is CNN's Ben Wiedemann said on Thursday that he had discovered what appeared to be Processed uranium sitting in a Libyan warehouse filled with thousands of barrels apparently containing radioactive material He is the reporter that broke the story on the yellow cake

1:11:55 This guy is a phony that the yellow cake which we know was not true this guy is a big fat Frickin phoney and they caught and we caught him on tape laughing about sticking his head in the feed bag because there's nothing going on of course some people are getting killed do you really think that the that the elite BS-8 holes in Israel or Palestine or Gaza, or anywhere in the world give a flying crap about you citizens? No! But you certainly got worked up about it. They don't give a single flying crap about you. Hit the jingle. Yeah okay. I don't see Curry's pet peeves of today. Pees yeah and

1:12:39 And so and by the way you left you left out the thing that happened three days ago when word Anderson Cooper pooper had to Take one of these explosions behind him and duck and cover I think I did see that. Did you do have audio on that? Do you have something this all over the internet they played no, I don't But yeah, I know the bomb happened and he ducks. It was remember that old that guy that used to be on in the first Gulf War? There was some guy who's ducking and weaving constantly when it is on the air. He's on the roof ducking and we even like these dodging bullets while he's giving a report right now this is the whole thing is fake and everyone's for and literally what I read is is the Israelis they're like this is you know their piss they're so angry but they were angry at the wrong people

CHAPTER 20 / 52 Discussion

Gaza Ceasefire, Domestic Distractions and Hillary Clinton

The announcement of a ceasefire in Gaza is viewed as a way for Hillary Clinton to exit her role as Secretary of State on a "high note" while distracting from the Benghazi investigation. The hosts argue the conflict served to divert public attention from the "fiscal cliff" and domestic austerity measures in both the U.S. and Israel.

hillary clinton· gaza ceasefire· benghazi· fiscal cliff· austerity

1:11:55 This guy is a phony that the yellow cake which we know was not true this guy is a big fat Frickin phoney and they caught and we caught him on tape laughing about sticking his head in the feed bag because there's nothing going on of course some people are getting killed do you really think that the that the elite BS-8 holes in Israel or Palestine or Gaza, or anywhere in the world give a flying crap about you citizens? No! But you certainly got worked up about it. They don't give a single flying crap about you. Hit the jingle. Yeah okay. I don't see Curry's pet peeves of today. Pees yeah and

1:12:39 And so and by the way you left you left out the thing that happened three days ago when word Anderson Cooper pooper had to Take one of these explosions behind him and duck and cover I think I did see that. Did you do have audio on that? Do you have something this all over the internet they played no, I don't But yeah, I know the bomb happened and he ducks. It was remember that old that guy that used to be on in the first Gulf War? There was some guy who's ducking and weaving constantly when it is on the air. He's on the roof ducking and we even like these dodging bullets while he's giving a report right now this is the whole thing is fake and everyone's for and literally what I read is is the Israelis they're like this is you know their piss they're so angry but they were angry at the wrong people

1:13:31 This whole thing is set up just to mess with your head. And by the way, have you seen the austerity measures in Israel? Your own government is starving you! You need to go kick their asses first! The whole thing is so incredibly annoying and obviously CNN and everyone has been sent off to go cover that. So whatever you do, don't look at Benghazi Don't look at the fiscal cliff. Don't look at anything that's going on here in America please whooo! And then Hillary goes off To blow Morsey I mean what is that? She has to go out on a high like I made peace so uh...don't look at Bengali

CHAPTER 21 / 52 Discussion

Victoria Nuland, State Department Press Briefing and Turkey

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland faces tough questioning from Reuters reporter Matt Lee regarding Turkey's characterization of Israel as a "terrorist state." Lee challenges Nuland on the effectiveness of "quiet diplomacy" while civilians die. Nuland refuses to publicly disagree with Turkey, an ally, leading to a tense exchange about rhetorical attacks against Israel.

victoria nuland· matt lee· state department· turkey· israel· diplomacy

1:14:08 Which is how they say it in Washington, Norton. Don't look at Bengali because I made peace between them. I did it! I'm Hillary! They're maniacal megalomaniacs seriously And I'm thankful for that. Otherwise, it wouldn't have a show well there's that element and i agree with that yeah but yeah yeah no although i think that pretty much summarizes the situation which will there was one little uh one little glimmer of hope um so of course turkey came out and turkey said hey man those israelis they're terrorizing everyone they're terrorists these are acts of terror now this is a problem because we're friends with turkey and we're also friends with israel

1:14:59 And you know, that's like not a cool thing right? You're the man in the middle. And our buddy Matt over there from Reuters he was not having it with Victoria Nuland and it was just so beautiful to hear him lay into her edge and just one of these exchanges where we go I wish that were on television more often It would be helpful for you to discuss any conversations that quiet diplomacy is the way to de-escalate them Well, you've been doing your quiet diplomacy now for almost a week How's it going so far? He's like, how is that working out for you huh. We are working hard with the parties we're working hard with... Have you ever heard of anybody who maybe being less quiet might get more results. The squeaky wheel gets grease that kind of thing. You're staying silent while people are dying left and right

1:15:48 Matt, we are being far from silent. You're not telling us anything about when the Turks come out and say that Israel is engaged in acts of terrorism and you refuse to say that you don't agree with it or maybe you do agree with it? That's being silent. We have made a decision that we need to engage in our diplomatic work diplomatically. We have been very, very clear about where we stand on this which is that... We don't practice diplomacy from the podium? Is that what you're getting back to? We don't practice diplomacy from the podium. Yeah. We've been very clear that Israel has a right of self-defense. We've been very clear that rockets continue

1:16:30 be fired and land on Israel. We've been very clear that we are working to try to get this conflict de-escalated, we have been very clear about our concern for the civilians and innocents on both sides who are getting cut in this... You won't stick up for your ally Israel when the Turks another one of your allies say that they're engaged in terrorism in Gaza? We have been extremely clear about our concerns for Israel's security about fact that Israel has a right to self-defense but I am not going to go further than that. Why can't you say that you don't agree with the Turks? Because i'm not gonna get into a public spitting match with allies on either side we're just not gonna do that okay? And you think that's worse, a public spitting match with one of your allies is worse then hundreds of people dying every day

1:17:16 I don't understand the question here. There's not a question here, you're just looking for a fight. Let's go Steve. The fight is already on. Yeah absolutely. It's going on over there and you guys by refusing to say anything about what you're trying to do or refusing to say whether you agree or disagree with comments that are being made by your allies or others we have... That makes things worse not better We of course agree that rhetorical attacks against Israel are not helpful at this moment. Is that what you're looking for, Matt? Yes. Thank you. Shut up, Sleeve! But the best, the best quote of the year comes from our very own president now serving in his second term who is

CHAPTER 22 / 52 Discussion

Barack Obama, Drone Strike Irony and Self-Defense

President Obama's statement that "no country on earth would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens" is highlighted for its perceived irony. The hosts point out that the U.S. frequently uses drones to fire missiles into Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia. They argue that by Obama's own logic, those nations would have a right to defend themselves against American drone strikes.

barack obama· drones· pakistan· yemen· israel· self-defense

1:18:05 Is it like when you get in for the second term, just like George Bush? Do they put something in the food that makes you an idiot. Does The White House kitchen do something? What he said what our president said on his Asian trip there blew me away. There's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside of borders So, we are fully supportive of Israel's right to defend itself from missiles landing on people's homes. So did he, did I just hear the president say that if you're a country and another country is sending missiles onto your citizens that you have the right to defend yourself like Pakistan Yemen all these places where he's sending drones to kill people? Is it okay so if he's now inciting terror

1:18:59 He's saying, hey! Hey you idiots there in Yemen. If you got someone shooting rockets at you, You should go and defend yourself Does anyone see the irony of this statement? Makes nothing but sense No one, no one picks up on this. It says Mr President since you just said that how do you feel about when you send rockets from drones to onto Pakistanis and onto Yemenis and onto Mali's elsewhere and Djiboutians and wherever else you drone people?

CHAPTER 23 / 52 Discussion

British Parliament, William Hague and Two-State Solution

Rehearsed questions in the British Parliament regarding the Israel-Palestine conflict are analyzed. Foreign Secretary William Hague discusses the closing "window of opportunity" for a two-state solution due to Israeli settlement expansion. The hosts argue these sessions are scripted performances intended to maintain a diplomatic status quo while facilitating arms sales.

william hague· british parliament· two-state solution· jerusalem· settlements

1:19:38 Does anyone see the disgusting irony of this statement? No. Everything's rehearsed now, there is only one part of that. Yes! Even my feigned outrage is rehearsed. Exactly! Talking about rehearsed... So I played that Rock Is A Jerk Jerusalem clip and was listening to Haig again you know our buddy Harry Haig Hank Hank Hague from the Department of whatever. The Department of Foreign People So I've got three clips you heard the rockets at Jerusalem and remember we've already had, I think it was Tony Blair clip from some two or three years ago should remind people this where he spilled the beans on these parliamentary things that take place they're all rehearsed

1:20:32 The questions are pre-chosen and the guy who's in the box that calls on people. You mean the guy with a wig? The guy with the wig, he calls on people He calls them and it's off a list And the question is already known and the answer has been rehearsed It's never been more obvious Yeah Hold on a second! Let's do it It's never been more obvious than these questions they asked this the Harry Haig guy Here's one, the political solution BS and it is just like here I'm going to ask you a question that you're going... or it goes like this. You're gonna ask me a question that gives me the ability to read off my talking points and agree or disagree with you in some way that's important for the government to express. Would the Foreign Secretary agree that maintaining a purely defensive strategy in Israel is neither effective nor economically sustainable?

1:21:34 Well clearly such a strategy hasn't succeeded in reducing the number of rocket attacks, that has gone up over a long time although it has protected many Israelis from the consequences of those rocket attacks. But as we've said before and I said in my statement there isn't a military solution to this problem there is only a political solution Sorry. So the question is, what kind of a question... I want to say a certain thing so I say to you would you agree? What kind of questions that would you agree with this comment yeah i think this is the greatest podcast in the universe well yes it's the best podcast in the universe

1:22:24 So anyway, there's one more of these and you can... this one I think is a little more obvious that the question is bogus and the answer is to. Which one is that? More Parliament with Hague. Mr Jim Cunningham. Thank very much Mr Speaker. The Foreign Secretary earlier on mentioned the fact that the window of opportunity was closing for a two-state deal Is that because Israel will not let the sanctions on the Palestinians and it would be impossible for Israel to dismantle the settlements Well, certainly the more settlements are constructed yes the harder it becomes for anyone to envisage a two-state solution working. That's really the heart of this argument particularly with expansion of settlements in East Jerusalem which of course makes it harder for Jerusalem to be the shared capital both states as all others envisage an eventual

1:23:17 settlement of this issue so yes he's we're on the same lines. Now here's what I think happens, I think that a memo goes out you know they've got like maybe they do it on ham radio they got a memo that goes out at cable it's like oh hey we're gonna do that thing again here in Israel and everyone was like Oh good finally we can talk about you have long conversations about nothing with buzzwords like to state solution and More importantly we can sell crap. We can sell weapons and imaginary shields and domes And and rockets that talk to radars and backwards, and it's just great You know it's great for the economy is great for politicians as getting close to the holiday you know we're too tired to come up with anything that means Anything who cares of a couple of citizens get killed in the process? It doesn't matter She's like

1:24:09 Yeah, it doesn't matter the scheme of things the way these guys see things. And then yeah and the news media they're like Oh road trip! It's like I swear to God that's the way I see it and if you don't see it then you either need to be listening to more of this program or stop because that's all it is and you're just a in an irrelevant peon that you know as long as you bleed well on camera your useful It works for me. Now Miss Mickey asked me at this point when I talk like this to say, but there's hope! There is lots and lots of hope! So I didn't realize that all of it...Hague said all of us envisage. Envisage? He says all of us envisage and what he was referring to was that Jerusalem itself will be the capital of all these different states Of course that's the envisage That's the envisage

CHAPTER 24 / 52 Discussion

Iron Dome Skepticism, Wag the Dog and Conflict Longevity

The hosts express skepticism regarding the technical claims of the Iron Dome, noting a lack of diverse video evidence of interceptions. They characterize the ongoing regional conflict as a "Wag the Dog" scenario that persists because it is profitable for the global weapons industry. The segment addresses the intense emotional reactions from listeners on both sides of the Zionist/Palestinian debate.

iron dome· wag the dog· zionism· gaza· military industrial complex

1:25:15 Oh, okay. Well I wish them luck! Anyway the whole thing is it's yeah it's where its wag the dog...I mean we did get a couple notes or something like that we have one a couple of we have a lot of listeners in Israel and what he says Wow, that's bullcrap. I these rockets are the Patriot missiles are knocking these things out of the sky Yeah And so I like to know they now there's two ways is doing one is their rock They're either knocking them out of the sky which is what though? I think fad does that yeah That's not gonna come out at the last second with this crazy dome thing well hold on all I've seen I've only seen One video and it's the two little chemtrails that go up you guys saw that same day the only video

1:25:55 there is. There is no other video and then it's like everybody with a cell phone you think there would be something now they have some explosions that they've filmed but I don't know if that was done recently or could be taken from Yemen for all I know, this is the problem with these B-rolls they're all over the place yeah and I saw and I'm starting to see the...I saw it on CNN and I've seen in another networks where their showing a loop once again. Yes, exactly! Yeah... Uh-oh... Oh my goodness! John? John?! They're bombing Austin? Yes, the Mujahideen!

1:26:36 Iron Dome effects don't last long enough you got to get in quicker with the be safe stuff okay be safe oh man it's just here what was this I had another clip from that that douche the the what was it what did he do the audio engineer Let's see, where is he? Here he is. Here's Ben Wiedemann the audio engineer. Well our Ben Wiedemann was on the air talking to take a look at what our viewers saw when Ben was talking I think it's pretty clear that we are moving in the direction of... I can hear shattering glass out there right now The building just shook because I was looking into camera and didn't see where the blast took place Anybody seen okay so the north of this building here

1:27:35 Despite talk of ceasefire, Hala it appears that the guns are still firing. Ben Wiedemann joining me now all of us in the office basically ducked to the floor I don't know how you remain standing basically didn't even flinch clearly been in this region a lot longer than that I have but So, you know and just as we've been talking I've been very specific when we started this topic not to look at the chat room. And so now I glance over and of course we get that you know the minute you talk about this because

1:28:11 And by the way, this is why this conversation never takes place in the mainstream media because immediately your sponsors will be pulled. You'd be thrown off the air you've been fired or whatever. You can't have this conversation about this bull crap that has been going on here in this particular region of the world for how long John? How long has it's been going on for 70 years almost as well as the recent iteration started in the 40s Right and the years yes seven years, but but historically you can go back And this is something that's been around this area someone was cursed right But you so you get these things like your a Zionist. You're a Jew hater Adams This it's like it's like that Is the whole that is the whole problem? You see and be like there's plenty of video this video

1:28:59 all over the place. No there's not, it's like I mean do you ever go to movies? Do you see what's... You're being mind-controlled your you know this is it really is wag the dog is the closest thing to it and if you're really that adamant please get your gun join the army go kill each other please! I wish they would all kill each other there just kill each other get it over with already so sick and tired of this charade yeah Right, then you have all these... the real problem is you get all these people that aren't aware of the script and they blow up a bus. You know there's a lot of dummies that just... Oh no it was even worse than that! Then there was the whole... then you get the Twitter war. You got this Palestinian woman who lives in England tweeting oh false flag false flag from the Israelis like you hate...

1:29:59 When you have a neighbor who you can't live next to because you hate each other so much, your next door neighbor in the house next door. Here's how it ends either A.) You wind up killing each other or one or the other or one of the other moves away there isn't no other solutions to this So I'm just saying why do the Israelis stop every single time and why did the Palestinians not get better rockets from their buddies in Iran? Why? Why? How come this isn't over already. Why?! Yeah, we know you can't nuke them because we'd have fallout Well there's many ways! You know poison the water! What else can we do John? Electrocute them! Come on John go with some creative ideas This should be over already

1:30:51 It won't sell, if it was over then all the weapons systems would be sitting languishing. We can have that? This has to drag on forever! Thank you That is my entire point and you will not get that point anywhere else I'm gonna show myself old by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could deal with us Oh yeah, that'd be fab Kill each other! We do have a few people to thank today's episode 463 and it was a nice turnout. Anonymous drunk chimes in with $172 from Cocholin, Michigan

CHAPTER 25 / 52 Discussion

Holiday Wine Recommendations, Beaujolais and Thanksgiving Cooking

John C. Dvorak provides wine recommendations for Thanksgiving dinner, suggesting a Beaujolais Village from Costco or a 2010/2011 vintage. He notes that Beaujolais pairs perfectly with turkey, while California Chardonnay is a viable alternative. The hosts also discuss the merits of heritage turkeys versus cheaper alternatives.

beaujolais· costco· chardonnay· thanksgiving wine· cooking

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1:34:22 And John, what is your recommendation for wine on Thanksgiving? Hold on. You stepped on the karma It's damaged Well, the wine might help Uh, go get for Thanksgiving dinner. Really? You might want to try a Beaujolais village. They have them at Costco pretty good deal from a judo is not bad that 2010 vintage I think is what they're selling now maybe 2011 yet great vintages in 2009 10 and 11 for Beaujolais and Bozhoi goes perfect with Turkey and that was my recommendation generally speaking or California Chardonnay's good too

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CHAPTER 26 / 52 Discussion

Hurricane Sandy Relief, New Jersey Recovery and Chinese Restaurants

A listener from New Jersey describes the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, noting that his family survived seven days without heat, water, or power. He credits the podcast as "hurricane relief for the soul" during the recovery. He also observes that local Chinese restaurants were the only businesses to remain open and serve food immediately following the storm.

hurricane sandy· new jersey· power outage· chinese food· recovery

1:36:42 And although it was... phew, expensive. Is it okay if I just have Honey Smacks instead? Anonymous comes in with $101 and No Agenda producers get a 10% discount with the code SHUTUPSLAVE on thatsmyface.com for their custom action figures. Yeah. And nobody's purchased the JCD figure yet. Wait is this for sale?! That's somebody's gonna use it as a voodoo doll. I'm not encouraging sales Well, wait a minute sounds to me like like there's one up there for sale It may actually be up on the let me see hmm boy You're looking Edward Bradley in Bridgewater New Jersey came with $100 Happy Thanksgiving don't usually take Thanksgiving too seriously But this year is certainly have a deep sense of gratitude for the number of read for a number of reasons I live in New Jersey

1:37:33 Somehow in the midst of the absolute devastation wrought by Sandy, the hurricane my friends family and home have all been spared for seven days. We had no heat No water no power and seriously short supply of patients with our fellow men and women and children It wasn't for no agenda The Zero-Zero Show, Moana a room full of acoustic instruments And a scrap heap power inverter hooked to the truck battery once them one day to make coffee I think I would have ended up like Jack in The Shining Well, it might be just a bit crass for you guys to say it. If it isn't I do no agenda is hurricane relief for the soul. Oh wow! A couple of hours of lessons from Sandy have learned that we can survive but should be better prepared. I've learned nothing can close the Chinese restaurants around here. That's interesting nobody brought that up. Learn takes less than 24 hours after storm for every money hungry with thief in United States to arrive in your town

1:38:28 Time and a half or double time pay. Wait, hold on a second. Hold on a second So during Hurricane Sandy the Chinese restaurants remained open and were serving? Yeah Hmm you guys it makes you wonder about the freshness of their product well They want to know if he's a black knight I don't know that maybe just JC oh I see night a night Well, I'm he's gonna be at night We got that, but a black knight... I don't think he's the Black Knight. I don't think so either. Sir John Smith St Peter's... By the way it is not a thing to be... The Black Knight is essentially us admitting that we screwed up So its not like you know special designation

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CHAPTER 28 / 52 Discussion

USS Liberty, Historical Accuracy and Listener Corrections

The hosts address listener corrections regarding a previous segment that confused the 1967 USS Liberty incident with the 1964 USS Maddox. John C. Dvorak recalls writing an op-ed about the USS Liberty years ago and receiving strange, angry feedback. They emphasize that while they occasionally make errors during live broadcasts, they strive for accuracy in their analysis of historical events.

uss liberty· uss maddox· historical accuracy· israel· 1967

1:47:33 I want to make sure Thanksgiving show gets appropriate love. Enjoy recent Benghazi analysis, which they find spot on in theory but have to say please be careful with historical references confusing the USS Liberty in 1967 with the USS Maddox and 1964 by the way not sunk an NBA had PT boats and torpedoes never had any sub you know I gotta say something about this so we do this show on-the-fly right? And we do it live And we both have knowledge of things. And when we screw up, or certainly when I screw up people go insane. We always do a mea culpa when we find out that we made a mistake and sometimes it's just not an intentional mistake and sometimes it is just carelessness. We even did on this show he said oh no were wrong on the very same show in the same conversation and still people are like you're crazy!

1:48:34 Really? Like, you know which to me actually is very beautiful because it means that we're so spot on most of the time. That when we stumble... When we veer away from the yeah what are findings. When we stumble then people really are upset So I feel pretty good about it but I was surprised like I can't believe you got that one wrong! It's clearly in history books Sorry There's a bunch of weird stuff You know I wrote a column about the USS Liberty attack And years ago, it was an op-ed I think it was in the Stanford Sexual Examiner and I got a bunch of...I talked about it in detail. I got some very strange mail from people after that one. It's just like weird story. Tell me what kind of weird mail?

1:49:23 It was like angry that I discussed it. It's, it was just strange. I mean, I just, that was like baffling if they didn't read it to sometimes you'll get a feedback because somebody doesn't pay any attention and they think he said one thing. You said something else? This happens a lot on this show too. So you guys are wrong about this and then the other is no, no, that's exactly what we said. I don't know. Some people don't listen very carefully but um Do you I mean was there something weird that you wrote about this particular? This particular me what this is not a typical Well, I don't know. I just wrote the details of the thing with...I had to know what it was. I had some...I was making some point about...I don't know what? It's...it was years ago. Hmm. A decade at least Was that for PC Magazine or...? No, it's a San Francisco Examiner. I just said it as an op-ed Oh, sorry! I missed that and uh

1:50:18 It just creates all kinds of, you know... it's weird because the Israelis attacked this thing and to keep it away from a situation that they killed a few people is very strange. Can I just say Don't bring it up anymore because then what now you've always I think it's cursed This is one of those things. It's curse you can't talk about if you bring in what you just said now You're gonna get people sending big Archives of here's what really happened, you know meanwhile CNN and Fox and MSNBC are lying in your face all day people like okay That's good

1:50:57 Rarely is anything unprecedented. He goes on to say keep up the good work he needs a citizen to do they had it's delicious karma for some job related issues Okay, hey citizen What was it? Hey citizen, two to the head. It's delicious? Yeah. Okay. Hey citizen! I mean that is the land of unconfirmed... Oh shoot, i'm sorry. Ha ha! Nah, got the wrong one. Well it's like you know so much to do let me try it again. Hey citizen! It's almost too delicious to believe my friend. You've got karma. There ya'go

CHAPTER 29 / 52 Discussion

Retail Activism, No Agenda Propagation and Canadian Football

A listener describes "hitting people in the mouth" by changing the browser homepages on smartphones in an AT&T store to the podcast's website. Another donor from Calgary, Alberta, asks for "getting laid karma" and support for the Calgary Stampeters in the Canadian Football League's Grey Cup. The hosts celebrate these creative methods of propagating "The Formula."

at&t store· calgary stampeters· canadian football league· retail activism· propagation

1:51:33 Sorry. That's a good combination actually. Anonymous in DeBerry, Florida 7218 Chris new job car me is waiting for the word on the great new gig happy Thanksgiving you've got karma right down the street from me is Jeremy Johnson and Port Angeles Washington 6977 bring some port angeles 77 cents to bring back the slide whistle You sure he's not living in your house? You sure he's not downstairs, maybe? He might be. I'll find out at dinner Ashley Hurst, our friend the fisherman lady who sent her photo of herself. Remember? 69! 69, dude! Very cute picture. Thank you for taking your time to do a show today I was recently in the AT&T store waiting in line with all the other slaves and decided to hit people in the mouth they changed all the internet browsers on the smartphones to the noagendashow.com

1:52:37 I even got to see one man's reaction. His interests seemed piqued! I am a lady, Adam and i love that flowing mane of yours. So glad you chuckled at my last donation. Douchebag to my friend Gus who has been listening for months without donating. Toot it ahead for the idiots I visited in Portland last week. Pretty please finish with a parliament mumble Uh, so is she requesting a karma actually? Yeah give her a karma anyway. Hold on a second I gotta get the parliament mumble... yeah no it's uh She sent us a picture of her holding up- what kind of fish was that John? It looked like a huge bass! So uh... She likes my hair and sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

1:53:34 The girl holding a giant fish. Dave in Desboro Amherst, New Hampshire 6969 please refer to me as Shagg. Okay shag I've been at 1212 monthly donor for much of this year by felt you deserved a little something extra for showing up on Thanksgiving. I figured a 6969 would be a good way to help keep up your spirits. Little girl shut up slave to the head little gold yay would make my day okay all right Yay! Uh, Donald... uh, Philip Chuck. Nice. What do you think?

1:54:16 nuts Calgary Alberta Donald's is where all the money is yeah that's right Chuck Nuts hey Chuck Nutts in the morning John and Adam the best podcast universe from the economic engine of Canada Calgary just a quick note to let you know I've enjoyed listening this show this past summer while on vacation in Florence Rome Pisa and Monterosso Sanktara in Italy and the beautiful city of Montreal and Quebec Thanks for the great edutainment. Where else can I learn about the etymology of the Steely Dan? Please throw me some getting laid karma and also please spare some karma for the Calgary Stampeters, of the Canadian Football League who will be playing against Toronto this Sunday in the final for The Great Cup eh! Eh?! Hold off on the de-douching until I donate a bit more For now please give me a Hello Citizen douchebag food to the head karma Adios mofos

1:55:13 Okay, so it's a hey citizen to the bag what? Alexi Volinsky in Albany New York 69 16 I love you guys listening on my Roku while slaving away in the kitchen well wife working in the hospital can Can I have two delicious karma for my turkey? As I was... That's a good one. And as I was typing this note while paying attention to instructions, while tasting wine thanks for all you do by the way Roku channel is few installs short of 40k Not sure what that means but okay It's almost too delicious to believe My friend You've got Karma Nice I'm liking that for the description of the turkey i am cooking it's almost too delicious to believe my darling

CHAPTER 30 / 52 Discussion

Ohio Election Ads, Paul Ryan and Grandma Parody

The saturation of campaign advertisements in Ohio during the 2012 election is discussed. A listener references a controversial ad depicting a politician pushing an elderly woman off a cliff. The hosts clarify that the ad was a Super PAC production targeting Paul Ryan's budget proposals, though it was frequently associated with Mitt Romney in the public consciousness.

ohio· election ads· paul ryan· mitt romney· super pac

1:56:15 Oscar Sir Oscar Nadel and to cut a 6969 says I'm one of the Europeans that so let's celebrate celebrity celebrating giving here's my donation thanks for the great service you guys give Christoph Eilers in Julen stead island stata island state which is where they're at 69 with um I don't know if it said that used to be where all the unit uh the Amsterdam University students would live maybe they still do out on Stata Well, maybe he's a university student. Michael Bradbury University... What does this say? Heights Ohio 6969. I figure it is time to donate to the show since i've been listening for a few months the hours of listening pleasure you guys have given me has made me a different maybe take a different look at all the news I see and the political debates I've heard around me in Ohio

1:57:05 I would not wish election season in Ohio on my worst enemy. It's enough campaign ads to drive you crazy and by the way, i would love to get a hold of that campaign ad where Romney pushes the old lady off the cliff? What this is a real and real ad yeah Romney has got an old lady in a wheelchair he's taking her top of a mountain and then he pushes her off a cliff and laughs And this was an Obama Ad I guess Well, I think it was by one of the Obama super PACs. Yeah he wasn't going to put his name on it but he'd be laughing all the way to the bank Are you sure it wasn't Paul Ryan? Because I see the video here No no its an old lady Duh! That's probably the parody video your looking at In a tack ad Paul Ryan kills grandma in wheelchair from Forbes

1:58:03 I thought it was Romney that was pushing the lady over the chair. No, I mean have you- when you hear about these things do you ever consider this? No, I saw it! This great invention called Google where you can like find stuff? Nah, I don't use the Google Anyway he's like a two to the head little girl yay karma You've got Karma Yeah looks like uh... Well this is from August no that can't be Doesn't make sense. John Haller in Missoula, Montana 6969 loved the show to act like two old married people crabbing and annoyed with each other I suggest on a day that you don't want to do a show that you play an old one and point out how correct you were or wrong

CHAPTER 31 / 52 Discussion

Drone Fatality App, Palindrome Dates and European Memes

A student listener is reportedly developing a mobile app that uses GPS and demographic data to calculate a user's statistical chance of being killed by a drone strike. Additionally, European listeners point out the palindrome date of 21-11-12, which aligns with the show's interest in numerical patterns and memes.

drone app· gps· palindrome· 21-11-12· memes

1:58:54 Life is great. He says Remco van Dyck I like that we were right or wrong Carry on keep calm we are right or wrong Remco Van Dyke from Holland 6969 Harlem Harlem a Greg Filer sir Greg Filers as a matter of fact in Lauderdale, Minnesota nuts 6969 cannot miss out on the chance to say that say thank you for all the work the whole crew does for the show. As a graduate student there is little to be thankful on this Thanksgiving but the show is one. You know it's so nice... Keep up with this section and we all will keep donating It's so nice when people who are studying or in school, when they send us notes I got a great note from a student The other day and he was asking about some drone information because he's making an app for a school project

1:59:45 that will actually based upon your features, so based upon what you look like the color of your skin where you live which is done through GPS it will determine your chances of getting killed by drone I can't wait for this app to come out. I need a copy Baron von Pelsmacher's is back. Come back again, hello Baron! 6969 he likes to get that 6969 in there another fine newsletter on top of two weekly episodes of the best podcast in universe compelled me to donate twice this week fact why because just loves the memes why because today on a European calendar we have a palindrome of 21 11 12 another one we missed yeah I also have renewed reason to believe that the karma works so

CHAPTER 32 / 52 Discussion

New York Photography, Tanning Mom and Jersey Culture

A professional photographer in New York requests a plug for his services while waiting for his "Knight Ring." The hosts also acknowledge a donation from Nutley, New Jersey, referencing the "Tanning Mom" media sensation as a symbol of local culture. The segment features several "6969" donations, a recurring theme among the show's supporters.

photography· tanning mom· new jersey· nutley· 6969

2:00:36 So I'd like a second helping of the swazzle-nuff kind, topped with a little girl yay. Keep up the great work Happy Thanksgiving! Uh for the Baron i'm gonna give him 69 69 dude! The Baron gets extra You've got karma Which he deserves Sir Atiyah in New York 6969 Uh, here's some birthday and 69 in French karma for my boy Danny Gray whose birthday it is on Friday the November 23rd. I would like to have a douchebag sent to Marvick Burgos for being a boner.

2:01:15 And Adam, give yourself a friendly douchebag while you're at it. You know why. Douchebag! Really? What did I do? I don't know if you did something bad. If you don't mind giving me a plug at eadamatia.com for anyone in the New York metro area needing some professional photographic services. You can look forward to a second knighthood when the money starts rolling in Speaking of which, I have still not received my night ring. We will get on that." She only sends about once every week or so. Wake up Mimi! Mimi! Get on the stick! Rick Barkhaus in Smith Falls Ontario 6969 a greeting from Gitmo Nation Beavertail and happy Yankee Turkey Day to you both.

2:01:59 I was on the news this Wednesday morning in the uncommon position of being totally caught up on no agenda episodes, which left me with nothing but time to reflect upon my bonerism. When I also noticed it was a palindrome day 12-11-12, I knew that was time again I had to ask you for can you take that to the bank followed by the parliament? Yay! Karma! Call out Howard McRae as a douchebag. He is just a general all-around douche bag, but he doesn't listen to the show either so I hope that qualifies. Okay? You can take that to the bank! A lot of buttons to push. 6969 from Jay in Cincinnati. The donation's my meager attempt to assuage the lull in donations caused by the holiday

2:02:53 This is my first donation. I kindly request a de-douching plus travel karma shot for all the No Agenda listeners traveling over the holidays. You've been de-douched! You've got karma. Peter Moore in Wonturnna... What? Waturna, south somewhere. Nuts South Victoria Melbourne actually the Paris of Australia he says I heard about your podcast when you're on the Twitter while ago and i've been hooked ever since please give me a deducing karma science karma. You've been de-douche'd

2:03:38 You've got karma. Thomas Badrick in Nutley, New Jersey 6969 greetings again from Gitmo Nation tanning mom! Yeah that's Jersey all right. 6969 dudes! And that closes the segment we know known as swazzle enough Boris Marinoff, sir. Marinoff to you and Elisa Viejo 6666 with a thank you Robert Kane Colombiana Alabama 6666 Let me be the first to wish you a happy sixth anniversary with this special donation Yeah I know bit early but it screwed up in mr.. Fifth and don't want to miss the next one big Thanks to Adam AG

CHAPTER 33 / 52 Discussion

Ham Gear Inheritance, Kia Soul and Atlas Shrugged

A listener describes inheriting ham radio equipment from his late grandfather and offers to share duplicates with the hosts. Another donor mentions spotting an "Who is John Galt?" bumper sticker on a Kia Soul, leading to a discussion about the car's quality and the "walking hamsters" advertising campaign. The segment includes a request for an "Atlas Shrugged" audio jingle.

ham radio· kia soul· atlas shrugged· ayn rand· inheritance

2:04:23 And the daily Morse code as well. I've been inactive the last few years, but I'm dusting off my gear so i can get on the air again and also in the process of getting authenticated with Echo Link Hope to see you there soon one day! Final thing when my grandfather passed away I inherited most of his ham gear some of it is duplicates of gear already had Some books an antenna analyzer and some other miscellaneous stuff of interest To a newly minted general ham Aww So let's just say I'll send some of them your way That's so kind Yeah, well 73 from N4IXD. Talking to random dudes since 1998 actually it's working random dudes Michael Sandahl in Landrum South Carolina 6666

2:05:07 Mike here from the great Gitmo state of South. We don't need to encrypt your tax records, Carolina nuts! I just started listening the week after Adam appeared on Twit and felt it was time i did my part to keep the two you going and donate 6666 otherwise known as quadruple nickels on the double sticks Double 3333 only 3.03 away from 6969 or Satan with a spare I like that Satan with a spare last Sunday as my milf and our two human resources were traveling north through Indianapolis keeping an eye out for drones on our way to Indianapolis for Illinois for Thanksgiving, I spotted out who is John Galt bumper sticker on a Kia Soul

2:05:55 Losers really realizing the heavens were tight, you know so I my wife said you know. I like the Kia soul I think I think we should get one and I said I don't know I say I think it's a funny-looking car It's kind of this is the one that I liked the car that I liked And I talked to out of it yeah with the hamsters with the walking hamsters that did that then drive it Yeah well I got I rented one okay You told me this and it's crap yeah Yeah, sorry. Realizing the heavens were speaking to me I would have like an Atlas Shrugged two-to-the head Parliament mumble karma shot for you all the listeners and my family as we head back south this coming weekend keep hitting him in the mouth I'll keep donating. Atlas shrugged by Ayn Rand You've got Karma

CHAPTER 34 / 52 Discussion

Canadian Postal Service, Hitchhiking Dangers and American-Made Clothing

A donor from Vancouver criticizes efforts to dismantle the Canadian Postal Service. John C. Dvorak shares a personal anecdote about a frightening hitchhiking experience as a teenager that discouraged him from the practice. The hosts also promote Bruns Clothing, a South Dakota company that manufactures American-made jackets with concealed carry pockets.

canadian postal service· hitchhiking· bruns clothing· south dakota· american made

2:06:47 You gotta do something, you gotta put some variety in it. Not just the first time What am I doing? I'm not doing anything. You're just doing pfff, you know No, no, I don't-I'm not doing that Okay That's on the clip, okay what am I supposed to do about it Ian Chaffee in Los Angeles California 6214 How about Ian, how about Ian not Eon I don't know why I'd do that! Ian nuts! Ian Ian Ian Ian Chaffee In Los Angeles California 6214 Apologize for the late football score donations. I've been trying to pretend the season isn't happening fortunately for no agenda coach Jeff Tedford has been experiencing the worst blowouts of his career if you recall, i have been donating this season based on each week's cal score win lose

2:07:36 or draw. Unfortunately for the show, it seems as if he is on his way out thank God! If possible please give me and coach Tedford some Clippity-Clop a drone again de-douching karma here's to more great no agenda shows each week in better Cal football team next year. You thought, karma. A little much. Robert McBeth from Vancouver BC sends in 60 bucks saying the postal resource would like to send a douchebag to Harper Douchebag Chopra Douchebag and Raitt Douchebag for their efforts to destroy the Canadian Postal Service Oh, this is something look into Yeah

2:08:31 Yeah, I'm chaffee in Los Angeles California 59 17 about Ian. Oh, I did it again Well, what is he giving two donations for so that he can hear you say eon twice? I don't know why I said it's gonna get eaten yeah, well It's like yeah, this is not saying I am Christian or Herzog, otherwise known as Sir Zogg in Elwood Illinois. Find the show too valuable to not support and I'd like to encourage everyone listening to help if they can. I'm doing okay but if I could get some two-to-the head too delicious karma for the family and the show I'd appreciate it. Reminded of an old 70s T-shirt slogan gas grass or ass nobody rides for free

2:09:14 Boners unite and support the show. It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend... You've got karma! I believe the gas grass or ass was a bumper sticker Jeffrey cadman Wheaton, Maryland you know but people like hitchhiked a lot the 60s and 70s Wheaton Maryland 5322 please come by my 11 22 monthly subscription looking for some birthday karma 11-20 to okay. You know I used to hitchhike and then one time had a bad experience What happened as a kid? Well? I was um I would the bus going home from school where we lived at the time

2:09:59 would only go like once every two hours and then I was like, ah screw it. I'm just gonna hitchhike and that was... what was I? 15-16 I think And you know the guy picked me up and he's driving along and then all of a sudden He's touching his crotch and I'm like ugh It freaked me out! Pull over now! Pull over now! Let me out now! Nothing happened but it really shook me up. It was weird. He was like, huh? That explains a lot You are such an A-hole Yeah. Bruins Clothing in Watertown, South Dakota 52 Lee Bruins again from Bruin's clothing and South Dakota nuts which is just plugging away here making jackets still setting bucks aside for no agenda when the business conspired hoping to stay afloat against a wave of China made winter coats yeah there's a guy that makes it with a concealed carry pocket it's an outstanding product

2:10:56 Yeah, and it's extremely warm. Brunsclothing.com I think it is right? B-R-U-N-S brunsclothing.com And they're American made and they're not expensive! No, yeah, and it's made by an American old lady... Not a Old China lady. Podcast for Peace is in with that from Alamo California 5150 Why because I want to say thank you for doing the show today while I drive to Grandmas for dinner. anonymous from Moscow or Mosco whatever you want to call it we should get the official pronunciation for Moscow or Moscow just checking in from Gitmo Nation Putin a bit of karma with Parliament mumble would be useful for my government job I think it's actually Mukba is what we should just call it. You've got Karma. Gitmo nation Mukba

CHAPTER 35 / 52 Discussion

Podcast Awards, The Young Turks and Content Theft

The hosts discuss their lack of nomination for "Best Produced Podcast" at the annual Podcast Awards. They criticize Cenk Uygur and "The Young Turks" (TYT) for allegedly stealing their media analysis and using terms like "Bat Signal." While acknowledging the show's open-source nature, they express frustration that larger networks profit from their original ideas without attribution.

podcast awards· the young turks· cenk uygur· content theft· open source

2:11:53 That was $51.58, Kevin Seifert in Tascadero California $50 and 1 cent Uh here here to crack pot and buzzkill for a continued destruction of the BS fed to the slaves by the government's spokesholes Being a small business owner it is hard to scrape up some cash so I took 50 bucks from the old lady for you I wonder what consequence awaits for such action Oh well would you play alone wolf two-to-the head? It is too delicious combo Yeah of course It's almost too delicious to believe my friend you've got karma You know, I want to stop this show right here and say Compliment you for being able to do these crazy combinations of it Can't be that easy because you do it at the last second. So you have to find the right clip rarely screw it up

2:12:49 Well, thank you so much John. That's what the show has got so much professionalism just kind of built into this scheme However are we nominated for best produced podcast at the podcast awards? No We I don't think there's a bet at this I was listening some old shows from four years ago really were you touching yourself No, of course not. But I was listening and the production values on this show once we got the intro jingle that we play at the beginning in the show right through the ceiling All the shows before that was you yammering on forever. I am Adam Curry and we do a show every day or every week, couple times once a week is once a week then and my friend here's John and i'm over there yeah i'm here coming through and yeah we talk about did you go out to dinner this week john? Yeah! Yeah I went out to dinner this week and had a meal It was really not very good

2:13:50 It's amazing we got through it. Well, it was also much shorter. It was like... well let's be honest about it people weren't supporting the show I don't think we were asking for people to support the show you know so there are a lot of things that go along with that and maybe we weren't ready for that yet in fact no I'm pretty sure we weren't ready Yeah, we just weren't ready for that yet. And yeah... By the way, can I just interject? We're almost done here but... Chunk? You know chunk? Yeah you know chunk who i'm talking about? Listen to this a-hole rip us off! Not a big deal uh but here's the interesting part nearly A BILLION views on the TYT network That's awesome and now we have been nominated for best video podcast

2:14:46 Wassick-der-Land. Geez! Wassick-der-Land is not part of the description of the nomination, it's part of the 8th annual podcast awards Oh my gosh okay so that means if we're nominated for an award We need the TYT army...we need to call upon the TYT army So first they have an army OH MY GOSH Is there a bat signal for the TYT Army? Really Chunk? Really? Bat Signal? Really?! All these people just take our analysis, take our ideas. I didn't realize how gay he sounds that guy! They take my gayness and just steal my gay. This is an outrage we've got Hollywood you know taking our jingle songs We've got Chunk taking my gayness in our bath signals. Well have the drone thing's gonna get stolen

2:15:38 I think both of them. Both drone again, blah blah blah and the wing loser drone. Oh yeah! And they'll be like how cool are we? Yeah we got a billion views! A billion views because we're stealing all the material from that No Agenda podcast which by the way anyone could take whatever they want yes open source it's open source but Matthew Park... But we can still bitch about it. Yeah credit we will still bitch about it Open Source Bitching It would be nice just to say hey thanks dudes Yeah, that wouldn't hurt. Matthew Parker in Park Ridge Illinois 50 bucks greeting from the land of Obama nuts. He'd like an Atlas shrugged karma. Donald Go-Gwen or Go-Guen what do you think? G O G U E N Westminster I like go Gwen

CHAPTER 36 / 52 Discussion

Job Search Hardships, Value for Value and Small Business Support

An anonymous donor from Massachusetts shares that he is donating despite being 57 and recently laid off, emphasizing the importance of the "value-for-value" model. The hosts discuss the difficult job market for older workers and the trend toward part-time employment. They also thank various small business owners, including the "Doon Buggy Golf Carts" guy, for their continued support.

job search· unemployment· value for value· small business· donations

2:16:40 Westminster Massachusetts nuts 50 bucks and a lot of Massachusetts coming in for small donation must mean a lot because I wouldn't pay for entertainment in a word full of free choices coincidence. I think not put me down for some karma you got it will also give you a Coincidence, I think that you've got karma Another 50 bucks from anonymous in Wilmington, Massachusetts. Please announce Mass of Tax Nuts please announce this as anonymous Dear John and Adam personal karma for being a douchebag to anyone that hasn't donated

2:17:21 I was laid off two months ago and not very many months. Money has gotten very tight, I'm 57. I think it's going to be a tough job search... No kidding! Yeah So if i can donate then almost anyone can Value for value what part of that concept don't you boners get? Thank you very much Anonymous That-that's heartwarming on this Thanksgiving He wants the he wants a karma yeah of course You've got Karma JQ and Shite... But it's not impossible. I just say, it's not impossible the job search. Everyone is going to be working part time. I think actually the less college education you have the better these days You gotta lie. I never been to college! You're hired! You're in! Here's 10 bucks an hour. JQ and Shite Town

2:18:16 Illinois 50 ITM fellas. Thank you for your work and very grateful to have the best podcast universe in my life Here's 50 bucks keep it up Jairus Corporation in Arlington, Virginia And you know what that means please give me some job karma as well as a nothing-to-see here You guys are swell consider me guilt trip You're trying to kill Tripana Now he's a happy camper. Ciro Picarillo. No, Ciro Picarillo. Picarillo. Henderson North Carolina at Hendersonville North Carolina

2:18:59 pronounced zero picker illa. Oh, this nurse has episode one and a monthly 1111 subscriber check to see if you're still an 1111 subscriber because this is the worst thing we lose out on this deal I had to share an extra bit of love this Thanksgiving thanks for all you do give yourselves a shot at karma will take it You've got karma. A visionary JKLM Inc in Wichita, Kansas says even if it's a bogative holiday I want to give thanks for the best podcast in the universe he's the DoonBuggyGolfCarts.com guy yeah and you know what the Doon Buggy Golf Carts Miss Mickey told me they now have roof if you go to school so you can play golf in the rain DoonBuggyGolfCarts.com They now come with a roof that's cool

2:19:50 Thanks, John. And finally Eric Veet in Dublin California 50 bucks and Kyle Bauer from Parts Unknown 50 bucks that'll be our Our donors for show four, six three want to thank each and every one of them. And people who donated lesser amounts for keeping us going here and it was a very good day before Thanksgiving I don't know how many people are actually listening but you know what's crazy about this is I went so overboard on material and stuff i mean i've got some i wouldn't this was a long segment so we're gonna go longer than normal I wasn't expecting this. I mean, I am completely blown away by the outpouring of thanks for the best podcast in the universe! Yes we're not nominated for Best Produced, you know? We don't have a billion YouTube views because broken iPhones or anything like that

CHAPTER 37 / 52 Discussion

Show Production Evolution, Birthday Call-outs and Thanksgiving Gratitude

Adam Curry reflects on the evolution of the show's production values since its inception four years ago. The hosts express mutual gratitude for their partnership and thank the "Gitmo Slaves" and artists who maintain the show's infrastructure. The segment includes a list of birthday acknowledgments for listeners born around the Thanksgiving holiday.

production values· c-span· legislation· birthdays· gratitude

2:20:39 You know, we're just two guys. Hey what kind of podcast awards have voting where you can vote multiple? It's a people's choice awards that they've got good awards thing to be because I've set these up yeah has to have judges who are credible making the decisions. Yeah a panel a panel of professionals Well, this is the problem because then I'm a panel of professionals. I've described the situation before but been in a lot of newspapers and magazines you go in there You have an editorial meeting at noon? You bring a bag lunch you sit there Oh Chewing on a ham sandwich and the five of you go what do you think we should give their award to editor? He says I get rid of these guys okay And your diet least our pros

2:21:20 Can't stuff the ballot in one of those meetings. Thank you all so much for helping us out, supporting us keeping us going we really do try to give you value and on this day of giving a thanks I would like to thank a couple people I would like to thank you John first of all for being my partner and being the counterweight otherwise i'd be nowhere I want to thank your whole family of course for putting up with your crap so that you could be an a-hole on the show. It's really nice Especially Mimi, I miss her haven't seen her in in three Thanksgivings. You know that's how long it has been

2:21:57 And I want to thank Gitmo Slaves, or Gitmo Slave Mr. Oil, Void Zero for all that they do on keeping us keeping the show rolling and of course all of the human resources our artists our knights are dames Thank you all so much because I am actually getting by That's the good news is I know that. I will get by day by day Wish it could be more wish it could be better wish it could be more consistent wish you had a newer car that was more reliable Yeah, well yeah, yeah basically whenever Whenever we go somewhere now Mickey and I have to take the truck because You know declining over-the-seat thing is kind of old when you're six five

2:22:41 You know, like getting in the driver's side door because the passenger door won't open. And it's hilarious because she'll have an appointment somewhere and she'll pick someone up or say you have to get in the back. People are like what? Yeah just get in the back make her look like a chauffeur have her wear a black cap A cap! A cap and boots With boots and a riding crop Leather boots black cap riding crop She can drive You could be in the back Trembling But anyway, it's great. It is a lot of fun doing this and I like it! I really do like it and I love watching C-SPAN so you don't have to. I love reading through government legislation although I can't wait to really get that cranking again because we really don't have any legislation.

2:23:28 With any as like let's wait for the next round because they're gonna pull you put stuff in their amendments and everything And you know I kind of read you the highlights of all the other space weaponry But let's wait cuz I'm waiting for some good stuff to show up so that's coming, but I'm really happy Oh and of course thanks to all the hams who are putting up with me the hams on the air? And you can show your love and support at Devorah org slash n.m It's your birthday, birthday. Oh yeah! On November 7th... Martin Osterhout congratulates himself he turned 57 yesterday Laurie Jutlia... Laurie Jutlia congratulates herself I say on the

2:24:13 It says himself here, but I'm gonna say herself celebrating today the 22nd Sir E Adam Atiyah says happy birthday to Danny Gray celebrating tomorrow Jeffrey Cadman is celebrating today. Happy birthday Kyle Magnum Celebrating on the 26 and Devin Smith's happy birthday to his wife shirt She turned 40 on the 20th so very happy birthday to all of you here from your buddies at The Noah Jenner Show Did you want to thank anyone before we go to the nights? Do I wanna what? You want to thank anyone for thanksgiving. Yeah, I want to thank you for doing the show and I do want to thank Buzzkill Jr. For doing this spreadsheet. I want to thank Eric DeShilford who wants doing this spreadsheet And i want to thank Mimi for making a coffee. Everybody gets a lot of thanks here By the way uh oh yeah you're gonna have to hold off a second because normally I fly with the sword

CHAPTER 38 / 52 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Dames of the Round Table and New Traditions

A formal knighting ceremony is held for several high-level donors, including Molly Kincaid and Richard Harriman. The hosts discuss expanding the "Round Table" traditions to better include the growing number of "Dames," settling on a new celebratory theme of "Chippendales and Champagne."

knighting ceremony· round table· dames· chippendales· champagne

2:25:08 And oh no, yeah. So I got a backup sword but it's in the closet and I'm gonna have to go get it But yeah, no they there's TTSA took my sword Okay Is this what we call theater of the mind? It's smaller Alright ladies and gentlemen, time to crown some knights and dames. What a list we have today! Molly Kincaid step forward, Christina Lake have Richard Harriman come forward Humphrey of Yes Minister Anthony Montgomery, Lori Jutila David Daniels and Edward Bradley I hereby

2:25:53 Pronounce the all knights and dames of the no agenda round table. What a list! Move over, get some chairs ready for the hookers and blow, the red boys in chardonnay, the geishas in sake The wenches in beer, the hot pants in booze And uh... I missed one. Uh, the Rubenesque women- whatever. The Rubenesque women in rose We need to balance that out we need more for the women because were getting more dames now And we need to have... We only have Rind Boys and Chardonnay, which can also be just for our more sensitive nights. But we need something another thing for the dames. How about Chip N' Dales and chocolate milk? God! No, Chip N' Dales and give me a drink with a C, an alcohol drink With a C?! Yeah

2:26:45 Cosmopolitan. Chippendales and cosmos? No, it has to be a ch sound. Chuh-chuh. Chuh? A drink with the chuh? Uh...a cheese gimlet! Nooo! One word! Chippendales and... A chimlet. That's not a drink! A chimlet?! Yeah, the chimlet! It doesn't sound like a good drink. Oh, it's delicious. We'll have to work on that one. Do you like cheese? We'll work on it. Seriously though, thank you very much to our Knights and Dames. So Christina Lake actually had Richard Harriman now become a Knight that's how it worked. That sounds a little messed up and the dames good good good Oh Chippendales in Champagne there you go. How's that sound? Perfect. Chippendale's in champagne. Yay! Good A lot of kind of crazy pharmaceutical news coming through

CHAPTER 39 / 52 Discussion

PTSD Ecstasy Study, HIV Testing Guidelines and ADHD in Prisons

A professional study recommending MDMA (ecstasy) for treating post-traumatic stress disorder in veterans is analyzed. The hosts also critique new CDC guidelines suggesting HIV tests for everyone aged 15 to 64, regardless of risk. Additionally, they discuss the pharmaceutical industry's push to provide ADHD medications like Vyvanse and Adderall to prison inmates, viewing it as a form of state-sponsored drug pushing.

ptsd· mdma· ecstasy· hiv testing· adhd· vyvanse

2:27:43 that I just wanted to run through these with you. There was a big study, I love it when the studies are done. It turns out that you know what the best way to treat post-traumatic stress disorder is? Which of course... Take a brown paper bag come up behind a guy blow it up, pop it! That's really funny John, that's really really funny No so this of course is a study to see what we can do for our soldiers, our troops, our men and women coming home who have been overseas multiple times in these crazy ass ridiculous wars against terror. They now want... the study recommends giving sufferers of post-traumatic stress disorder MDMA also known as ecstasy How about that? Geez! I don't think this is a good idea They say it is very very effective

2:28:48 And this is a professional grade study. But of course, you know it's I mean well does this mean that we can then get like Adderall? We can there will be a black market in ecstasy because that's what i'm thinking Is there a black market and ecstasy already right but but it's not a pharmaceutical ecstasy It's people oh the good stuff it's mainly people in the Netherlands Because that's where most do you know the most ecstasy comes from Holland No, I had no idea. Oh yeah Holland is the they make the most pills in the universe when it comes to ecstasy But of course that's you know It's just because actually you can make it in your basement Everyone can make ecstasy You're not allowed to but I think what they want to do now is create a real trade and ecstasy That then you know because of course The government or in the pharmaceutical companies with the government really want to become the legal drug pushers So I think that's why that is happening

2:29:47 brand new guidelines from the US Preventative Services Task Force, which I believe is a part of the Centers for Disease Control recommending everybody ages 15 to 64 should get an HIV test even if you're not at great risk. That's good way they can sell you some bogus shots. Yeah yeah that'll be the AIDS vaccine. Even if your not at risk? Yep literally thats literally what it says its even worse because they say In this and I gotta wonder who these jabronis are they're talking about the high-risk groups And actually, I think if you believe in all this the high risk group is probably single women 25 to 35 but they of course only talk about men very very strange We have yes treating criminals for ADHD

2:30:43 giving them the ADHD medicine. Turns out that's really good for criminals if they're in jail, so we're now going to be providing Adderall and Vyvanse and Ritalin to prisoners and believe me you'll be paying for it! And then there are some great recommendations here if you go to YouDoTheRest.com Just the letter you so you do the rest calm. This is the makers of Vyvanse which is a you know ADHD Kind of an Adderall type of medication, but they have some app recommendations for you if you are If you're on their medications Are you going to this website?

2:31:35 No, I would give it to me again. You do the rest dot com except the you is not while you are just you. You do the rest dot com and here it is looking for app recommendations and they recommend you use Evernote A front forever note? No, they're selling by vans. But but they're like since you're messed up since you're a confused slave and if you can't keep shit straight in your head... This is like dexamphetamine dimethylate. Yes. Amphetamine! But it's like Adderall. It's essentially Adderall. Yeah well it's the same stuff it's just in a different package

2:32:21 And they're saying, we should get Evernote and you should give me all these apps that will help you organize your life as a completely confused... You know, you're hyped up on Vyvanse. Stoned on speed! Let's see what their recommendations are getting organized It is really quite sad. Really quite sad. Also the panel favors no, can't know Papers and tux do to this bare bones visually doing hot to do get it to do how funny To do got it took me a while. Yeah, they ever note can know everything in physical textbook can do I homework and Instapaper yeah, maybe when

CHAPTER 40 / 52 Discussion

Indianapolis Explosion Investigation, Drone Strike Theory and Pilot Morale

The investigation into a massive neighborhood explosion in Indianapolis is upgraded to a criminal homicide probe. While authorities search for a "white van" and suspect natural gas, the hosts maintain a theory involving a potential drone strike or a cover-up of a government-related incident. They also discuss the low pay and poor working conditions for military drone pilots, suggesting it could lead to rogue actions.

indianapolis· explosion· drone strike· criminal investigation· white van

2:33:10 I think we're gonna plug server software. Yeah, I'm at the obviously these guys are on this drug And there's a notify me and don't forget mine known and don't forget list omnibus and then things I do two or three of it once Come on man come on hey Don't be a douchebag come on put it in there and come on come on you can do it yeah Hey so this Indianapolis thing This Indianapolis explosion is getting crazier by the day. Indianapolis authorities have opened a criminal investigation into the explosion that leveled part of a neighborhood earlier this month We are turning this into a criminal homicide investigation There's a search for truth Truth! And there was a search

2:33:55 for justice. Apparently there's two searches going on one is for truth and then over there, this search for justice. The November 10th explosion killed two people they live next door to the house that is a focus of the probe investigators suspect natural gas but they're also looking for people seen in the area in a white van I mean it so obvious you show up to the explosion John! This could either be a natural gas explosion or... It could be the guys in the white van urge anyone with information about this matter to contact Crime Stoppers. And now they are going to demolish 28 homes on that block, so I would say they're covering up the evidence of whatever blew this up This is... really people in Indianapolis you should be protesting You should be out there saying tell us the truth what is going on? You know like when 9-11 carted off all that steel and then made a ship out it or whatever

2:34:52 You know, also we couldn't see what was going on with how the steel had melted away. This is the same thing they're carting off the evidence in plain sight now okay it may not be a drone I still think that this was a drone strike that came... Are you gonna stickin' with dead bull crap? I can stick to that! Well did you have something better yeah the guy was blowing up his house for insurance reasons John, we've already been through this. This is not the type of explosion a gas... You can't do this- You can with C4? Oh really? Well then why don't they say C4? Why don't they just come out and say it? Why are they cleaning everything up and saying oh guy in a white van! Why?! This is what I don't understand. I mean why did have to hide that

2:35:40 Why didn't they say, hey this guy was nuts he blew himself up with C4 or? Well I think it's because for the reason is that they've already made the determination it was a gas leak and now they're covering their tracks so they can at least have some bogus... No! No. No, no I disagree that has not been determined They're saying everyone's saying it's not a gas explosion So you gotta make up your mind The reason that they are hiding something Is because there's something to hide Not just because they are embarrassed that they said gas explosion Come on That's right. So what do they have to hide? A drone strike, yes something like that! Well mine is better than... Okay I've been on this you dismiss this whole story from the beginning No no somebody should have seen something This is just like you and those missiles in Israel Why didn't you know You think somebody was seeing some drones you'd see the missile coming down and blowing up the guy's house And still why is there no What would be the point of it

2:36:35 It's not, it wasn't near the government buildings. Your original thesis was it was near these government agencies and then we got the report is 10 miles out of town! It's nowhere near anything right? And then and then we found out that one of the guys who worked at one of these government agencies was killed Yeah well there's something to that I think you may have something with that guy Okay but you know so it's a process all I'm saying is I'm staying on the story I'm sticking with the drone You watch hey it's also possible that someone hijacked a drone You know, it's now that would be a story worth covering up. There you go Because if somebody and I by the way This is very doable to hide somebody hijacks a drone maybe an ex-drone pilot You don't know if somebody knows how to fly the thing those will button to push that fire a missile. I was reading um Cuz you know they've delayed what's gonna happen to those guys those next drone pilots are gonna have too much information They're gonna have to be killed Hmm yeah

2:37:32 They don't make a lot of money, drone pilots. They make very little money actually and they don't get in there hours are all screwed up and I was reading that in the NDAA 2013 That you know There's not a lot of free can't get a promotion kind of you sitting in that chair and flying that drone That's it You know and he's just 25 bucks an hour It's not it's not a very glamorous It's only being a jet pilot Of course they all think they are. Hey man, I fly for the government! No you don't. You move a joystick around give me a break Meanwhile Skahil is that his name? The guy from the nation? By the way by the way i think it would be... The guys would get more job satisfaction if these drones had machine guns and allow these guys to strafe

CHAPTER 41 / 52 Discussion

Spitfire Pilots, V1 Buzz Bombs and WWII Drone Origins

A 79-year-old ham radio operator from Hastings, England, shares stories of World War II Spitfire pilots defending against V1 "buzz bombs." He describes how pilots would fly alongside the unmanned rockets and use their wingtips to physically flip the bombs off course and into the sea. The hosts characterize these early rockets as the original, less sophisticated ancestors of modern drones.

spitfire· v1 rocket· buzz bomb· world war ii· hastings england

2:38:25 Don't you think yeah, of course for just once in a while. Yeah I was talking on the 3373 no agenda ham Reflector to a guy he just he wandered in onto our frequency 79 years old in England and he lives in Hastings And he's like hey, we got a ham radio Club over here Because we have all this world war two equipment Then I was like oh, that's kind of cool man cuz you know I used to fly in England and you know from time the time I'd be joined by an old guy old geezer flying a Spitfire it's like oh yes We have several them here And then he starts talking about what he calls the the bumble buzzers or something. Oh, I forgot the I should have written it down He was talking about the old v1 and V 2 rockets You know these were the last bomb buzz bomb these were the original drones

2:39:19 And I think the V2s were the ones that really bombed a lot of London. So it was essentially a bomb with wings and an engine, which is a drone only it didn't really have any sophistication. Well actually the...I would agree with that about the buzz bomb but not so much about the v2 which was just an out-and-out rocket IBM was a ballistic missile. It just went up and then came down, the buzz bomb would fly over the place and buzz everybody and make it racket that scared people but then it would crash too. Well I would run out of fuel and just drop blow-up so the guy's telling me the buzz bombs bumblebots I think he said Bumble Bombs or something no they were always called I thought we'd always buzz bombed maybe there was some English had some other phrase for it

2:40:04 So he says, what would happen is the guys in the Spitfire when these buzz bombs were incoming they would go over and then they would tip their wings to send them off course to send them into the sea. Can you imagine that? The guy was flying next to it Then put his wing underneath and move the stick Flip it! Yeah And flip it and we'll go off and crash into the sea That's hardcore crap right there Yes, which you call flying That's flying Not this drone crap with your joystick in a container So, Skahil is from The Nation magazine and he was on MSNBC. He had something pretty good to say about why the CIA has been so militarized and how they keep their secret budget in place. Let's talk about budgets and we know that the CIA operating budget is classified. I'm working at least on those details but

2:40:58 Might all of this evolution come as a result of budget issues, which we know are present everywhere in the government? Why not there as well?" Well I mean it's an interesting question. The drones are relatively cheap form of technology and that is one reason why they're so attractive. The other part of this though –and this may sound cynical– is that my sense on what happens on Capitol Hill is when General Petraeus would go before Congress as the director CIA or Admiral McRaven who was commander of Special Operations Command Congress members say, well how do we measure progress? And in their eyes body counts does the job. How many Al Qaeda figures have been killed? The president made it a centerpiece of his national security campaign when he was running against Romney. How many times at the convention did they say Osama bin Laden is dead or the president would say if anyone doubts my resolve ask the 23 al-qaeda figure that we've killed I think were sort operating on fear and also congress is asleep with the wheel and this is the easiest way to sorta say what work for winning the war on terror when reality we may actually be creating

CHAPTER 42 / 52 Discussion

CIA Militarization, Body Counts and the War on Terror

Jeremy Scahill of *The Nation* appears on MSNBC to discuss the militarization of the CIA and the use of "body counts" as a metric for success on Capitol Hill. He argues that the reliance on drone strikes and assassinations may be creating more terrorists than it eliminates. The hosts compare this to the discredited statistical reporting used during the Vietnam War.

cia· jeremy scahill· petraeus· body counts· war on terror

2:40:04 So he says, what would happen is the guys in the Spitfire when these buzz bombs were incoming they would go over and then they would tip their wings to send them off course to send them into the sea. Can you imagine that? The guy was flying next to it Then put his wing underneath and move the stick Flip it! Yeah And flip it and we'll go off and crash into the sea That's hardcore crap right there Yes, which you call flying That's flying Not this drone crap with your joystick in a container So, Skahil is from The Nation magazine and he was on MSNBC. He had something pretty good to say about why the CIA has been so militarized and how they keep their secret budget in place. Let's talk about budgets and we know that the CIA operating budget is classified. I'm working at least on those details but

2:40:58 Might all of this evolution come as a result of budget issues, which we know are present everywhere in the government? Why not there as well?" Well I mean it's an interesting question. The drones are relatively cheap form of technology and that is one reason why they're so attractive. The other part of this though –and this may sound cynical– is that my sense on what happens on Capitol Hill is when General Petraeus would go before Congress as the director CIA or Admiral McRaven who was commander of Special Operations Command Congress members say, well how do we measure progress? And in their eyes body counts does the job. How many Al Qaeda figures have been killed? The president made it a centerpiece of his national security campaign when he was running against Romney. How many times at the convention did they say Osama bin Laden is dead or the president would say if anyone doubts my resolve ask the 23 al-qaeda figure that we've killed I think were sort operating on fear and also congress is asleep with the wheel and this is the easiest way to sorta say what work for winning the war on terror when reality we may actually be creating

2:41:55 more people than inspiration to commit acts of terrorism in countries that most Americans haven't heard of. Mali, Mauritania... I mean these are the next fronts. I kind of like that whole body count thing just body count for Congress how many do we kill? How many did we get with that thing? 3,000? Yeah it's a throwback to the Vietnam War when you had these bogus figures they used to throw at everybody and everyone took in hook line and sinker until some years later when war was deconstructed and few books were written Right the Secretary of Defense right turns out that everything was a scam speaking of scams Right on schedule. There's there's a couple things is to have to happen on schedule We know from our agency contacts producers in the agencies That once every six weeks, the FBI has to get some homegrown terror going we got it roll some people up and I think this is not when was the last time wasn't not six weeks to the day or

CHAPTER 43 / 52 Discussion

FBI Terror Stings, Facebook Surveillance and Six-Week Cycles

The hosts identify a recurring six-week cycle in FBI "homegrown terror" arrests, noting the latest case in Los Angeles involving four men allegedly recruited via Facebook. They argue that the FBI uses social media interactions and "likes" to build cases against individuals who are often just "talking trash" online. The segment highlights the role of *Inspire* magazine in these entrapment-style investigations.

fbi· terror sting· facebook· lone wolf· inspire magazine

2:42:52 What was the last, what was the last... I don't remember but it is very routine. Wait a minute so when was before these four guys in LA which i'll play the clip from who was before that? It was um It wasn't some moron that they gave a button to and then made him push it a few times? There's this single lone wolf. Yeah, there was a lone wolf guy who was gonna blow up a building in Chicago- Oh the Federal Reserve guy! He's gonna blow up the Federal Reserve of Boston or New York or something remember that yeah I just want to look at the date hold on I want to look at the date I'm not going to kill this page thanks Chrome

2:43:32 You suck. The phone crashes a lot more than it used to Yeah, I've noticed that too It was October 17th Well what do i say? It's like two months six to eight weeks October November no its exactly 6 weeks October 17th Until yeah 5 or 6 weeks So almost six weeks every six weeks We gotta arrest somebody This one though is hilarious Quotes one of the defendants referring to Kabir as a Mujahideen walking around the streets of LA and that he came out here to recruit brothers. The complaint says the four Southern California men shared violent and extremist material on Facebook, including video messages from Anwar al-Alqaei, the now deceased leader of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula." So what they were actually sharing was the Inspire magazine which I have downloaded! I think you've downloaded it at least once haven't ya John?

2:44:25 No, no. Not gonna happen Yes you have! Yes you have! I don't download that kind of contraband my friend but here's too delicious to believe Here is the best part and they liked various other links and postings So if you like something on Facebook which of course at the acronym FBI is Facebook incorporated It's like it's so obvious. We know director Mueller was walking around saying hey, Zuck How you doing? I was in the building that was in the Time magazine article and Facebook is the FBI It is the agency get off of Facebook certainly if you're gonna like terrorist content I'm gonna target some I mean these guys were just talking about

2:45:19 And they're talking trash! And they're liking links. This is, you know... Anyway good job on the FBI and right on target so our next let's see what is six weeks from now that should be December. Oh do you think Christmas we should have another Christmas plot a Christmas bomber Don't you think? Yeah, there will have to be a Christmas. But let's take a look at this actually put it in the red book and the Red Book we need another Christmas because it'll be six weeks from now then we need to get more creative. I'm just gonna put Christmas event event what's it Let's call her What would be creative so we've already had Federal Reserve was created We have to make people like Adam look more frightening So I think it should be a lone wolf er

CHAPTER 44 / 52 Discussion

Future Terror Plots, Risk Scores and Border Security Software

The hosts speculate on future "terror events" that might be used to justify new security measures, such as TSA at ferry terminals or train stations. They analyze a BBC report on new SAS software that assigns "risk scores" to travelers based on cash payments, age, and travel history. They compare this to credit scores, calling the normalization of individual risk profiles "disgusting."

risk score· border security· sas software· bbc· surveillance

2:46:10 Ham radio. Yeah, I think you have to put various ones. How about this? Lone wolf team. How about this? How about this? How about this? Ham radio operator They won't let that happen. There's too many hams in the government. Oh, okay What could we do? I mean it's got to be something because you know this is gonna get boring so we and the FBI listens The agency listens So he might as well give them an idea And if we give them idea then they'll play it out and then will say hot red book and be funny Okay, I think it's going to be an attack

2:46:47 on the Staten Island Ferry or something like that. Now why the Staten Island Ferry? That's not very good No, it's got to be some boat because that way they can institute TSA people at boats you know now there are ferries all over the country right and just get on them Well for that then why not just do trains? Well trains are possible because they haven't had... They've given up on this high-speed rail They already got every other money in place so they made their money So that's done The train. I think... Yeah, airplanes are boring they can't if they do another airplane which i believe that's what they'll do because that's the model it's going to be another like a pant bomber or foot bomber or guy who has had the operation is uh has a fake arm which is loaded with explosives? I don't think so! I don't think so! I think we can actually... The one-armed bomber

2:47:41 No, I think we can actually help them come up with a strategy. It has to be something where we can add some crap that you know that we don't need. A company can sell them some bullcrap. So boats or...I think it's got to be trains. I think it should be a train and a drone is going to help somehow in this rescue Don't you I think that's feasible now we can modify this as we go along before the day actually happens, okay? We well because they're gonna have to work on it. Well They may have better Better abilities than the two of us have in terms of dreaming up some bullcrap Let me come on printer cartridges with a bomb innocent was that was pretty good was lame actually But it was interesting and and the pant bomber. I mean that was good. That's just crotch bomber I mean come on. That's great. That was kind of good

2:48:37 You know, he tries to light his crotch on and people go what are you doing? I'm lighting my dick on fire. This kind of makes no sense Yeah exactly There's got to be an idiot You know, I think we should have it'll be maybe another guy trying to come in from overseas I'm gonna put that into this gonna be a guy trying to come in from overseas You don't want that would work and I'll tell you why hold on a second there's new software Hold on let me get this Here it is. I've got information man! New shit has come to light This is from the BBC, a US... The British arm of SAS software So we add extra information for that border agent To help them identify what level of threat they might be And that's a risk score This is a risk score so they're talking about how they're going to How the board agents can protect

2:49:36 protect the homeland from being intruded by terrorists. Somebody might have a very low risk score that would be presented to them which says let them pass freely or it might be a very high-risk score that says you really want to look at this individual and understand why they're coming into the country By the way, this is so disgusting to me that we already have a credit score now are going to have a risk score associated with each individual and even though You're low risk, you'll still have a score. This is disgusting! And look at them in a little bit more depth... This is the BBC reporting by the way who put a little hip music to this promo If we take a look at this particular individual

2:50:19 There are a series of categories that make the statistical model suspicious about this individual. So for instance, what you might find is that the visa was applied for and paid for in cash. Listen! combined with the way the ticket was purchased, combined with perhaps the point of origin of the passenger, combined with their age and combined where they've been previously might give you a pattern that is indicative of a high risk passenger. Yeah I love it! And then there's sexuality, the colour of their skin...

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NASA Mars Rover, Curiosity Results and PR Hype

NASA's public relations strategy regarding the Curiosity rover on Mars is criticized for creating artificial suspense. The hosts mock the agency's tendency to tease "exciting new results" that often turn out to be minor scientific findings, such as the presence of water or soil composition. They characterize these announcements as a recurring cycle of hype and disappointment.

nasa· mars rover· curiosity· pr hype· space exploration

2:51:03 All of this stuff you can have a risk profile, so they're trying to sell this That's why the BBC did this whole commercial. It's the whole piece was five minutes long John on this software company making this bogative crap Yeah there yeah, we're gonna have a rating now You get a nine well come I didn't get ten you pay your cash With cash pretty suspicious yeah And now, back to real news. Oh watch out geeks! Ooh it's so exciting! Scientists working on NASA's six-wheeled rover on Mars have a problem but it's a good problem they have some exciting new results from one of the rovers instruments

2:51:48 On the one hand, they'd like to tell everybody what they found. But on the other, they have to wait... ...to make sure their results are not just some fluke or error in their instrument." How many times do we have to listen to this bullcrap NASA PR? Next month! We're gonna tell you it's a big surprise! It's gonna be great! You never guess! How many times- -"We found a village of Toads!" How many times did they disappointed us with this crap?! Every single time. Oh, we found water! Oh, we didn't... Oh, we got... There's life on Mars! We have dead life? No, no we don't. Yeah, I didn't even want to clip that short because I didn't think it was interesting. I did get a clip of your buddy... Well thanks for just slamming me. Yeah you're welcome Your buddy Pistol

CHAPTER 46 / 52 Discussion

TSA Security Theater, Elderly Screening and 1937 Birthdays

New TSA guidelines allowing passengers aged 75 and older to keep their shoes and light jackets on are dismissed as "security theater." The hosts argue this contradicts previous claims that terrorists could be of any age. They debate the logistics of "priority lines" at Oakland Airport and mock the arbitrary nature of using a 1937 birth year as a cutoff for being considered non-dangerous.

tsa· security theater· elderly screening· oakland airport· southwest airlines

2:52:38 Why is he my buddy? Isn't your buddy, don't you like him? Pistol. No! He's a TSA douche Well he gave a little talk about traveling or making sure to stay safe as part of that theme of yours Stay safe I don't have a stay safe No it was TSA Rather than eliminating risk, demonstrate our agency's commitment first and foremost to security but they also underscore our understanding that the vast majority of passengers do not pose a threat to aviation. Right I keep waiting when i fly That's all I got? That's all that is here, yeah. Hey good job at least my clips are coherent

2:53:21 Yes, well thank you very much. So the thing he was talking about is they're not going to pat down or run through the system people over 70 or under six or something like that. If you're 73, you don't have to take off your shoes and your jacket that's now listed at... Did you fly? Or did you drive to Washington? I flew! You didn't see the sign if you were born? No, I didn't see a sign. Oh, I would have noticed if there was a sign. It didn't...Did you go through the first class line by the way at San Francisco? I was, I flew out of Oakland. Well they have a first class line in Oakland premium line and it should right into the place where you're gonna have to refuse to take... Okay here let me give you an explanation this I mean may I know you get a big kick out of doing this there's nobody at them there if i go to the first-class entry which I could do right they shut you right into a machine

2:54:18 They shunt you into a machine. They shunt you! If I go to the regular line, which has nobody in it except five people... ...I'd go it through the magnetometer Now why would I go to the first class line? So I can cause a scene? At Oakland- No excuse me. I don't know what your talking about but at Oakland You go through the priority line because we've done it And then you just show up at the TSA douche earlier and still choose whatever lane you want to go into Your not forced your not shunted that's not true You just were too afraid. You were afraid to get caught. No, I didn't... no! Afraid to get caught? You are not a first class passenger! When you're flying on Southwest, I don't even know how you'd get into that lane because it doesn't make any sense. On Business Select my friend- Yeah, you just walk behind Miss Mickey

2:55:07 He just let her go. If I had Miss Mickey as my guard, it probably could go anywhere So here's the sign and I'm surprised you haven't seen this attention passengers 75 and older if you were born on or before today's date in 1937 You can leave your light jacket and shoes on during screening in this lane because apparently if you're 75 you're not dangerous anymore This is funny because this contradicts the early days of this bull crap when they used to say, I remember hearing people say it on these talk shows. They'd go well why are they patting down that old woman and that old man? The guy's 90 and they're making him go to the side there patting him down And the argument was well they're so old they got nothing to lose They would bomb the place cause they've got nothing to lose In fact you know what? Remember that?

2:55:59 know, in fact I think if you're at the airport and you see some old man or lady and by the way 75 is not that old. I don't think that's old anymore. I mean I know lots of 70 year olds who are quite fit and okay thank you and are very active have a very active sex life yeah this is 90 would be more like yeah but go on so 70 if you see someone taking advantage of this I think you should you should shout to say hey that ladies got nothing to lose it's frisker You should if they have a cane kick the cane say hey stop this woman stop her this old lady She might be explosive. She has nothing to lose and you're letting her through That's exactly what they were arguing I know it's changed I think we need to talk about this This is actually shows how much security theater there is more than anything else because first of all It's so ages like 75 like oh, he's 75 He's not gonna blow himself up anymore

CHAPTER 47 / 52 Discussion

Blind Sheik Release, Egyptian Diplomacy and Morsi

Rumors of a diplomatic deal to release Omar Abdel-Rahman, known as the "Blind Sheik," to Egypt are discussed. Egyptian President Morsi has reportedly called for the release of the cleric, who was convicted in connection with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. The hosts jokingly note that at age 74, the Sheik is nearly old enough to pass through TSA screening without taking off his shoes.

blind sheik· omar abdel-rahman· morsi· egypt· terrorism

2:56:57 Because he's old. I'm surprised you're not seeing... Well, the blind sheik! Yeah? Oh by the way did you hear the story where that were they or the kidnapping plot variation yeah that it was actually um that it was Romney that it was the Republicans and then it was kind of like it wasn't exactly the business plot do you mean that one the complete reverse of our theory No, no. No I didn't have it heard the Romney one that's pretty good Why would not and I'm not buying that one because of the way Clinton Reacted to the whole thing because it was obviously he was in on this know This is the one word that the whole thing was a scheme to first kidnap The guy the whole thing was it was actually kind of a reverse plot to get the blind chic right? who tried to level them

2:57:45 one of the towers of the trade center years ago, eight years before 9-11. Exactly 8 years. It was going to be a trade? A trade for what? Because there's a bunch of Muslims right now that are making a big fuss and Morsi is one of them! They want the blind sheik released, but we can't do that. How old is he? Was he born on or before today's date 1937? Yeah you just take a plane ride out and he's safe! He's good to go! He's not dangerous anymore. Let's find out how old this blind sheik is I'm looking him up... He's pretty old 74

2:58:27 He can't, well he'll have to wait. What is the birth date? The exact date of his birthday? May 3rd 1938 He'll have to wait until may but it's coming up so in may he will officially no longer be a dangerous terrorist They have a picture of him with looks like oh I know that's just this headdress anyway look like Santa Claus there um yeah so the idea was to do this deal they get this guy out of the country and uh but you know I think the truth will never be fully known. No, no that is true. Uh had a little pito bear. I'm still for dinner? Yes with my rice and beans. Whatever you do don't eat the liver

CHAPTER 48 / 52 Discussion

Elmo Puppeteer Scandal, Kevin Clash and Sesame Street

The resignation of Kevin Clash, the puppeteer behind Elmo, following allegations of inappropriate relationships with minors is examined. The hosts react to the "Being Elmo" documentary and express surprise that the story hasn't sparked a broader investigation into the culture at Sesame Street. They criticize the media for treating the scandal as a joke rather than a serious criminal matter.

kevin clash· elmo· sesame street· puppetry· scandal

2:59:19 I was kind of surprised that this hasn't gotten a lot of play, actually. ...Elmo Kevin Clash resigned from Sesame Street after another man claimed today he had sexual relations with Clash when the accuser was underaged. Chef it's nice to have Nichelle Turner with us in Hollywood tonight with all the details. Nichelle? Yeah, and honestly why this isn't an outrage so there is this Kevin Clash... And anyway, the documentary about Elmo which i saw thing is called Being Elmo It's quite cute It really is. Can you imagine? I mean there's so much material with the Elmo guy, it's like wow! You can think of a lot of just horrifying situations. If you see...you have to see the documentary. You can probably get it on Amazon, Yoroku or Netflix or whatever. You should really take a look at it

3:00:06 Because it's you know this guy is Kevin is a superstar celebrity. He I mean he opens shopping malls with his gig You know and the whole story, but he's also very influential a lot of kids who want to learn how to use puppets come to meet him and And I don't know exactly who the first or second accuser was but having seen the documentary I got a pretty good idea what might have been? You know I found the whole thing kind of creepy And, you know... So this is Sesame Street man. This is a guy from Sesame Street having inappropriate sexual relationships with children! I mean it can does no one see that there should be a complete investigation of every puppeteer in Sesame Street now? We should be ripping these people apart?! Why is there no call for this everyone's like oh it was okay. I mean because it was Elmo

3:01:00 Yeah, but Elmo's okay. No he's not okay! Elmo is the pedo. Elmo is okay. He's okay. You know what I'm saying? It's like...I'm surprised. I'm really surprised. Everybody's laughing about it that's the problem with this story. It's never gonna have any legs because it's so silly But it's not funny. No, not at all. In this second tape- I gotta laugh on my horrible Elmo imitation That was bad But it was bad. I have to if i heard him a few times, I think I could do it but to me It was just like why doesn't anyone take this seriously? I mean there could be something going on with all these uh All these puppeteers might be of A group of them yeah cabal Cabal and elmo cabal Pito cabal And Elmo pito cabal Yeah possibly all right what else we got Uh, I don't know you still got some oh um

CHAPTER 49 / 52 Discussion

Dutch Prince Friso, Consumption Tax and GDP Spending

Reports on the "minimal consciousness" of Dutch Prince Friso following a skiing accident are briefly mentioned. The discussion shifts to a *Morning Joe* segment where guests proposed a consumption tax (VAT) to address the fiscal cliff. The hosts challenge the claim that government spending is only 24% of GDP, asserting the true figure is closer to 40% when all factors are included.

prince friso· netherlands· consumption tax· gdp· morning joe

3:02:00 The Dutch prince, Friso. The one who's been in coma for a year? The one who got uh... you know he was in the avalanche? Right! According to reports, he now is showing minimal consciousness just like his mother the Queen. You know I saw this coming. How far away? As soon as you said minimal conscious, I knew there was going to be followed up by... and you got the timing right it wasn't like you were gonna drag this joke out No, no, I got it, I got it. You nailed it! Thank you The minimal consciousness is the actual word and that is that is the actual news report

3:02:39 It's like, it's like begging. It is begging for this. So I got a couple of clips that want to run by one hour. I want to run but play the one Government percent of GDP, this ran on the morning Joe. They were talking about you know the fiscal cliff and all the rest and somebody threw this little bomb in there. It doesn't mean high taxes cause high growth we have plenty of counter examples. Too many variables The real issue is the size of government And if we really want a big government then everybody's going to have to pay for it That's probably a consumption tax but if that's where they want to go By the end of the 90s we were sitting at 19% of GDP. What are we now, 23%, 24%? For government spending yes and we're headed toward 30 plus. Whoa wait a minute I heard two things in there first I heard consumption tax which is VAT then I heard 19 to 23 percent that is pretty much the rate of VAT in every country in the world that has it

3:03:36 Well that number comes in into this conversation. That number and, oh I was heading to 30 is so bogus we're already at 40! So what is the point on The Morning Joe to throw out these bogus numbers? You can look it up anywhere you want. In fact they sent me a link for the show notes which has some of this but we've been at 40 for awhile and were moving up to 50 So why are they coming up with this bullcrap 19% going to 23%, heading to 30 when we're at 40? I'm telling you why. Government spending as percent of GDP is 40%. I thought it was higher than that! No, it's pretty high. It's actually 39.5 or something like that. You're not hearing me. Let's start with this...

3:04:26 The elites don't give a crap about people and they hold them in contempt as they are stupid. So the mind control is spending 19-20% who, in order to offset that we have to have a 19-20% consumption tax That, I think that's the programming that i hear going on. You might be right! It may just be a little bomb drop in there to get people thinking that well 1929 they were having 20% VAT so thats gonna pay for everything. Oh great! Well theres also a meme along similar lines So we have of course climate change is back on again now Obama doesn't have to go through another election

CHAPTER 50 / 52 Discussion

Climate Change Memes, Carbon Tax and U.S. Oil Reserves

The IMF's new "4 degrees" climate change meme is identified as a precursor to a proposed $23 per ton carbon tax. Simultaneously, a GAO report estimating U.S. oil reserves at three trillion barrels is discussed, contradicting "peak oil" theories. The hosts argue that fracking and new extraction technologies have fundamentally changed the energy landscape, though they personally favor nuclear power.

climate change· carbon tax· imf· gao· oil reserves· fracking

3:05:09 And the new meme, and I haven't gone through the whole report yet actually but i will put it in the show notes is 4 degrees. This is... The IMF has released a report what if the world were four degrees warmer? So we've gone from two degrees now to four degrees this is the new meme and with this comes the $23 per cubic ton metric ton I think of carbon $23 of carbon tax. I think we're going to get it, we're gonna get in this administration's reign of terror Yeah, I think so too Although its gonna be tough to get that one past the Democrat House He'll just do an executive order So here is turn down the heat why a 4 degree Celsius warmer world must be avoided from the IMF Why don't you say 100 degree increase should be avoided too? This is bogus

3:06:14 Well the thing that I love so much... There's no evidence it's gonna go four degrees. Yeah there's tons of evidence. Hey come on what are you talking about? Science! The science is in! Science! And of course the news now that is being propagated, that by 2020 but even starting in 2017 America would have more oil than Saudi Arabia. It's like what happened to peak oil. I don't get it. What happened? Really big oil Where is that where'd that go of course this could only be achieved by fracking, but still it's not like it's gone I mean, it's like what if I understand the numbers that are coming out now which is being carefully avoided by By many so many news channels that Here the GAO

3:07:12 That's the government accountability office. Is that not a government outfit? Aren't those a bunch of feds? Yeah, but they're independent right But you know we take their word for it when they estimate what Obamacare is going to cost or what the military is going to cost We take their word for there Oh yeah So GAO estimates the amount of oil recoverable in America to be three trillion barrels. And they go on to say, in the past 100 years and all of human history we have consumed only one trillion barrels of oil so that's pretty cool! That is a lot of oil! I love it, I love it. Believe me, I don't want fossil fuels either, I want nuclear

3:08:08 Everyone goes insane about it. Yeah, that's what you want. Everyone goes insane when I say that. I don't see why...I think its a reasonable perspective. Because people don't mind fossil fuels that much? Nah! I mean like the idea of nukes man is cool. So I got one more clip and then we can save this till Sunday but I have one more thing which is Chris Matthews Going on and on about soaking the rich with all these rationales in other words just jack up there You know that this whole thing is you can just see this coming down Broadway They are not gonna solve this problem by the first of Obama's not even in the country doesn't care used to be that what you need is

CHAPTER 51 / 52 Discussion

Chris Matthews, Taxing the Rich and Nigel Farage

MSNBC's Chris Matthews is heard advocating for "putting teeth marks into the neck of the rich" through higher tax rates. In contrast, a clip of Nigel Farage in the European Parliament is played, where he denounces the "dead hand of bureaucracy" and the high salaries of EU officials. The hosts praise Farage's rhetorical style and his defense of national democracy and free markets.

chris matthews· nigel farage· european parliament· bureaucracy· taxes

3:08:50 the left wants to feel they won the election which is fair. I always think you should get at least a 60-40 deal after an election even in divided government if you win the electoral vote, you oughta be able to get the best deal my best deal would be that the president put his teeth marks right into the neck of the rich right now is a your rates are going up buddy i'm not gonna go sort around looking for deductions and screw the temples in churches around the world get rich out of those guys still want to give it charitable groups but on taking your rate upper was under clinton when you were doing pretty fat happy so you know complain we're going back to where we were in the nineties if he did that i think people left the progressive side would say you know what I'll take my piece too if he's willing to do that. But, if he pulls back and says, oh geez we'll just go with some deductions then the left is going to say, If that's all you're doing to them then you ain't gonna do nothing to us. You can't do it with deductions. You absolutely cannot do it. Even if you could?

3:09:41 Even if you could, he's right. Right. Blah blah blah. So hey by the way wasn't this a meme in the whole debate? That oh you know that Republicans want to go back in history they want to go back to the Bush years they want to go back we're looking forward! Forward is our motto forward and now all we hear is Clinton we want to go back to the 90s does this make any sense anybody and how come they're not getting called out on this Why do you even care? I don't okay hopeless all right well We're on elites a quick clip from our buddy Nigel Farage over there in the end. Oh, yeah That's short short clips or clip of just fun What we've seen this morning from the Commission and Parliament is a passionate defense of high salaries Index link pensions chauffeur driven cars at a lifestyle that none of you would actually enjoy outside

3:10:35 there in the real competitive world. It's the status quo convincing itself that it is doing a good job despite the fact that public increasingly doubt you I would remind you that every time taxpayers' money is thrown at common European projects, the results are less than a success. The Common Fisheries Policy and its environmental degradation and now of course the Euro are not just an economic but a social disaster that is engulfing the Mediterranean. And it's all based on a flawed thinking that the state if it has power and money can create wealth. The dead hand of bureaucracy is destroying innovation and destroying jobs in Europe, national democracy and free markets would be a much better model." I love the dead hand of bureaucracy! It's really good. Where does he come up with that stuff?

CHAPTER 52 / 52 Discussion

Jewel Wasps, Cockroach Zombies and Show Outro

The episode concludes with a nature clip from Stephen Fry describing the life cycle of the jewel wasp, which turns cockroaches into "zombies" to feed its larvae. The hosts jokingly compare the cockroach's fate to the career of Piers Morgan. They sign off with final Thanksgiving wishes and a reminder of the upcoming Sunday broadcast.

jewel wasp· cockroach· stephen fry· piers morgan· thanksgiving

3:11:28 He's not a writer. Yeah, maybe you could send him stuff send my ideas no idea Hey, baby We should do that we just sit and send them to them little little nuggets that he can use That's pretty I think we keep the nuggets here. I got an end of show clip or short one I see you have one but yeah, I know if they might say the matic clip we can do it on Sunday I got some good stuff. I have it's a clip with a payoff joke at the end So it's what's that guy Stephen Fry? That's his name, Stephen Fry. And he's talking about something that happens in nature and then there is a payoff joke at the end so that will be our Ed's only short one so that's our end of show clip and I have to add yes we're screwed but there is hope

3:12:20 Hope and change. That's where you're supposed to say, yes because I've been through this all many times before. Ah! I missed the cue. Yeah you did. I've seen this a million times and then if i read my history there's lots of it happening in the past. Go back to the 900 when people were eating each other Oh man would that be awesome or what? What a great time... good times Good Times Eat Each Other So we'll probably do a no agenda hams net after the live show and go to echo link three three seven three and Daily Morse code calm I guess and have yourself a great bogey of Thanksgiving John with your with your family there enjoy that then. I shall have an apple in my room by myself

3:13:13 Yeah, that's what I want to hear exactly. Oh That's horrible come on over no No Anyway will be like the homeless over and feed them okay? No cuz I'm gonna be too busy with my hand having my hand in my underpants sitting on the couch do that We'll have a beer then coming to you from get mo nation drone star state capital like thing a doodle Austin Texas Happy Thanksgiving everybody i'm adam curry And also a happy Thanksgiving from the Pacific NW bunker. I'm John C. Dvorak We will be back on Sunday to bring you more quality analysis right here on NOAJENDA. Parasitic wasp that has the most extraordinary life cycle, they're called jewel wasps They go up to the cockroach They then impart a sting into its brain which turns it into a sort of zombie It doesn't kill it

3:14:15 But it kind of makes it just like... This poor cockroach, he then gets packed into the nest and then he lays eggs inside. And the baby wasp is born in and eats the cockroach alive from the inside In a very special order to keep the cockroach alive So there you go. I thought i'd leave you with that charming thought. If only you could do that with Piers Morgan. Yes, oh!