Rats on a Plane

00:00 Well, uh... Adam Curry. John C. DeVore. It's Thursday January 4th 2018 this is your award-winning Gimmo Nation media assassination episode 9 or 9 or 6! This is no agenda Measuring buttons and other appendages. And broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the drone star state in the Cluedio In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where we're asking the big question... Will they pick up the garbage today? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Why would they not pick up the garbage today it's Garbage Day

00:39 It is garbage day, but last week they moved it to Friday because they had the Monday off. Oh yes oh yes I remember these issues. I don't have that here in the condo we just throw your shit out the window yeah Honda East Austin hey gentrification coming your way people look out below! Actually i do love the trash chute i have to say Trash chute is nice because it's always there. You don't have to worry about it I mean you don't really even have to separate your recyclables It all goes into one big container downstairs, I've seen it yeah There's not two separate containers and so Joe a lot of it There's a lot of that when you're right off the bat This is news that I don't know it was very interesting to me I don't know if if all over audience finds it interesting but apparently in the Intel chips

01:33 There's a bug or flaw, or maybe it's a glitch. Or feature. And it allows hackers to enter into the subsystem... I don't know. Apparently it affects all Intel machines. The fix is available But the fix might slow down all of these chips by up to 30% have you heard this yeah? What is going that's a big fuss going into well? You don't think that I know what did ya well, maybe. I don't know what the deal is All I know is I've heard this and then AMD and Intel are going back and forth about it Yeah our chips are better you guys have never been that good right and This in that

02:18 So you end up with this, this and that. This that and the other thing yes. And so on and so forth uh-huh Um...so I don't know yet what's going on? Hmm. I dunno. I mean i'm finally over to a Windows machine Well I don't think your chips are affected. I haven't yet. I'm in Intel. It's a new chip I think of the i7 you actually believe it is although wow all right hadn't considered that Dell would rip me off no it's gonna get a dirty good every day big they were talking about these stores well I don't know I'm not going to talk as we just done okay we just don't know yet okay that's fine

02:58 Well then tell me about the earthquake this morning. Did you feel it? It was near you Yeah, actually I woke up just before the earthquake which is not unusual because after you live in an earthquake country... You're like a parakeet! You're like a dog! So the earthquake starts and there's a... Wait stop no no stop so you woke up before it even happened you felt something was going on No, I didn't felt that something was going on. Did you ever wake up in the middle of the night? All the time! Do you... when you wake up do you think oh something's gonna happen something is going on no very rarely I think I gotta poop that's usually what i think well there's that that's different

03:38 Anyway, so I woke up just kind of...I didn't like wake up and jump out of bed. I just kinda woke for just a split second and then the earthquake started. So I figured there was some early wave or something that might have jostled you a bit. And uh, so it started. It was a good one. It was like a reasonably good shaker. I mean it was a shaker. Magnitude 4.5 which I believe on the old Richter scale was probably about a 2? I don't know. It would this would be more than the two and I can assure you okay, and So when these things happen? I've been through a number of them just start shaking in it's not like the normal short quake that you know The 3.3 or whatever it is that nearby this was nearby This was only just right by the Claremont Hotel Was any damage at the Claremont no idea this is 2 miles from Berkeley oh

04:34 Yeah, it was just a couple miles away. And so the typical little short nearby quake is like it sounds like some truck hit your garage and ran into it. I mean that's exactly what it sounds like to me And this was not one of those. This was an actual shaker, so it started shaking less than about three seconds which is a long time believe me when the house is moving around. No kidding! And I'm just laying there and you don't jump out of bed go ahead try to put yourself under an arch or anything you just wait And so you sit there. So instead of doing what they always teach, like go stand in the doorway? You just went back and laid down in bed kind of like Titanic. You wait to see how long it's going to go on. And so he goes, Oh geez, that ends. And then you use because then you wait a little longer to see if that was a pre quake. That's the real problem is it was

05:36 And then you don't, for maybe a minute goes by and he go right back to sleep. Yes I remember that experience from Los Angeles has a lot of this true but this one was close to you so it was kind of like huh? It was really shook the place but it was three seconds which is again right it's not like a lot until you're in it and I'm gonna report USGS as a reporting service So if you're in a quake at all, you should go into the service find out what quick you think it was and then report your experience. Oh It's user generated reporting yes I haven't received any space weather alerts for awhile maybe maybe it broke with the iOS 11 upgrade so tired of upgrading

06:28 So, regarding the quake apparently Nick and Jay which are they're pretty close to Claremont Hotel. I guess it shook them pretty good but Jay just kind of slept through it and Nick who's from Washington State was freaked out he's not used to this stuff yeah well it's not like that all the time anyway well if it's not an earthquake it's the bomb cyclone I have some clips about the bomb cyclone. Yeah, this is... Including an explanation of bomb cyclone Good Which i think uh This was on CBS and he specifically asked He says can you tell me what's the difference between a bomb cyclone and Bombogenesis which is the other word And this is the clip defining Eric first of all what is the preferred term here? What does it mean

07:22 I would go old school. I'd go with bombo genesis, a bomb cyclone is another way of saying the same thing... Wait a minute! Old School? Have you ever heard this term before that's not old-school that's new speak term here and what does it mean well i would go old school i'll go with bombo genesis a bomb cyclone as another way of saying the same exact thing so what does it mean well something happens every every year. This one will be pretty notable because of how deep this storm... It happens every year yet we never talk about it, this is great! ...we'll get in a very short amount of time so we take a look at two this afternoon center low pressure east of Florida thousand four millibars run-of-the-mill tomorrow afternoon at 2 o'clock as it moves off the New England shoreline were down around 955 millibars that's a tremendous drop almost 50 millibars and 24 hours thats bombo genesis has to be at least twenty four and twenty four hours

08:15 Why does it matter to anyone on the ground? Well, the faster that pressure drops the more the winds respond in kind. And this is going to be a big wind maker across the coast especially in New England So here's the timeline snowing in North Carolina this evening that will move up across the mid-Atlantic Coast heavy snowfall confined close to the coastline as we head through the overnight and skirting the big cities like Philly and New York The heaviest snowfall falls in New England throughout the day tomorrow. All wrapped up, this is a storm that will likely have an eye feature tomorrow if you're looking on satellite it'll have the appearance of something that would look like a hurricane. So here are the snow amounts Boston a foot or a little bit more as possible New York about four to six

08:51 Philly 1 to 3 on that very back edge of the snowfall. Now this is gonna drag in another blast of really impressive cold these are mainly all record cold temperatures for highs as we look into Friday and Saturday and at night widespread sub-zero readings this may be the coldest blast of the entire stretch that we have seen here Jeff since dating back on Christmas I guess you can pepper these clips. They had to give it a name, I guess in order to tie it into global warming has to have some kind of scientific explanation Yeah, they're gonna troll and make it. No. I don't think so my people are all in on this well here play When you hear play one of these tips you can follow it up with this ISO yeah, baby Okay Thanks

09:41 I'll work on it. You know we're going to have all these new type of man-on-the-street bits because you know we have with the hurricane With severe storms, we have the reporter on the street in the water up to their waist with people walking by in the background. Now we have the frozen face person. Eastern Florida Georgia South Carolina and North Carolina are expected to get as much as six inches of snow and New England is likely to see 12-15 inches As the cyclone travels up the coast, wind gusts could be around 30 to 50 miles per hour. The numbing cold is already affecting areas in New York A blizzard warning has been in effect for Erie County with snow falling fast You couldn't see a gosh darn thing in front of you Everything was blurry there was complete whiteout right now you can even tell that it's completely white out I still cant feel my fingertips just from walking not even quartered

10:35 you know, from my vehicle. We're gonna have a lot of those. Geez Louise well just before we play all these I have a bunch of these clips about this thing too But before we do that before we play all those. I want to mention and since you've mentioned the new theme Which I think the other thing was that standing in front of the exact same fountain in frozen fountain Yes, frozen foul is a winner always a winner Always a winner mm-hmm now This was though. I just want to play this as kind of another thing. I'm starting to see from CBS

11:14 And I'm calling this the bad segue and it reminds me of the SRS 22 minutes or whatever that show what used to be called up in Canada. They had a whole segment called the bad segway. Oh yeah, we-I think you played stuff from that in the past on the show? Yeah and it was like they'd talk about one thing at time now tell me this is the bad segue tell me this is not A classic bad segue. There is a dangerous weather system along the east coast tonight, it brought an ice storm to the south and could bring a major snowstorm to the north overnight we will have much more on that in just a moment but first the Arctic chill between President Trump and his former chief strategist. I borderline her for that. Hey! I know let's link it like this

12:02 Yeah, this is great. We're gonna see a lot of this really a lot of bad Bad that's because Jeff Glore is a cornball whose Jeff Gore he's the new anchor at CBS The young guy thinks this stuff is hilarious Hey I got an idea hey the new guy had a great idea And I'd like to remind everybody that in the 70s, the very same people including, I think Holdren who was Obama's science advisor. Who? Holdren John P Holdren Oh yes He was part of the global cooling crowd and it was the exact same fear-mongering If you just do a Google search You can find New York Times Time Magazine Newsweek Washington Post

12:57 Tons of articles exactly the same as you've seen in the past 10 years only Warning for a mini ice age which now it appears we might be going into and I'm not so sure. I like that I like warming better, I believe I think we should like warming better than cooling is gonna kill people yes now Let's play this short clip. This is the just average that I like to know how you get There's gonna be the hottest year on record by the way 2018 I can assure you than any other in history in history Average temperature and USA this is the they're gonna give the players average temperature clip and get this the average Temperature in the continental US this morning was just 9.3

13:37 Degrees number nine the whole country damn it was 20. It went down to 20 here in Austin Went down to 51 here at night Who knows the quake all right? Well, here's another I got the storm update snow in Florida which is kind of interesting Okay Yeah But but the one I want to play is another one that relates more to global warming because this kind of makes you a We didn't have a lot of carbon dioxide problems in 1895, so let's play Chicago to tie cold snap record. Folks in Chicago are used to cold weather but this is a long stretch even for them if the temperature does not rise above 20 degrees by Saturday, Chicago will tie a record for 12 consecutive days below 20 that has happened just twice before in 1936

14:33 and 1895. I think 12 consecutive days below the 20s, it's a depression! Oh i'm sorry wrong chart man yeah this is fun times what i'm getting from this is a lot of tidbits A lot of tidbits. Yeah, you mean little bits of nuggets of info? Yeah useless information is fantastic! Anyway if you want to play the Storm update this is a buck 49 This was I-95 through Brunswick, Georgia. And while it isn't rare to see a massive backup here the cause of this one was ice on the road this far south Dozens of long haul drivers decided it was time to pull over Even Lee Church who is from Indiana put it in park Trying to get up to at least somewhere in South Carolina because I knew it's supposed to start snowing Didn't work out that way why not? Well, I'd say there's about 1 quarter inch of ice on the road

15:34 and it's icing everything up, and just snow on top of it is a real bad situation. Hundreds of accidents littered roadways from Georgia to the Carolinas. Semi trucks flipped over and cars lost control Those who didn't heed the warnings to stay off roads found themselves stuck Georgia State Patrol Captain Chris Wright. This is not something that our people are accustomed to dealing with, so we want them to stay home, stay off the roadway and stay safe and stay warm. The southern snow dipped as far as Tallahassee Florida which hadn't seen much of any snowfall in nearly three decades. And while it wasn't a whiteout it was an unusual sight for tourists in the Palmetto state

16:17 Gus Kroll is visiting Charleston. It's pretty wild, I've never seen palm trees with snow on them before. Heading into tonight winds could cause more power outages along southern coastal communities ice that's formed on trees and power lines threatens to weigh down and snap them The Savannah area received anywhere from one to four and a half inches of snow, amounts not seen in decades. And even though it's tapered off you can tell by this partly frozen fountain behind me the threat remains roads could refreeze overnight and below average temperatures are expected to last in the southeast through the weekend cold

17:00 Let me talk about decades. We haven't seen snow in the San Francisco Bay Area since the 70s, right? And the funny thing is at time it snowed here right in San Francisco I think was two years in a row talked about this before and 72 73 or 73 74 one of the two and That was the period where they were promoting the global cooling cooling yeah, yeah what's knowing out must be global cooling The polar vortex is still in play, and here is how it works. The colder it gets the more fossil fuels are burned this causes more cold and more burning of fossil fuel so more global warming AND more cold! It's a vortex...it's a system that just takes us right down the drain Wow So we should not turn on the heat We should freeze to death That's the way to go Hey our electricity went out

18:00 The other night when it was in the 20s. It was in the 20s your electricity went there? She's just a warning no morning shot across the bow No, this is the lead certification of this shitty-ass building Yeah So you know everything is you know In order to get the certification which I believe comes with some tax advantages they crippled the dishwasher They crippled the washing machine they crippled the dryer They crippled the faucets that crippled the showerhead pressure and I think they were really running on minimum amperage because when it was really cold and everyone had their heaters going, boom power goes out. And they were switching on floor by floor by floor and they got to our block which is like five floors it would keep tripping so they had to do...I don't know what they did but they upped the amperage but I'm telling you its because of this stupid lease stuff. That new Intel computer that you go there! Yeah

18:54 That's right. It says hog hey who's mining bitcoins in the building stop it by the way the China Central Bank has told top-level government internet finance officials that The monetary authority can now tell local governments to regulate power usage of Bitcoin miners To gradually reduce the scale of production ha ha there's your flaw Yeah, the government will not stand for this. They'll do anything and ultimately I'm pretty sure that they have some power over the power yeah well i'm sure of that and then I don't think your your solar panels are going to cut it Well, I like know what's how they're doing in this weather In the east those solar panels they must be fantastic covered with snow must be great. Yeah

19:49 I think you wrote this in the newsletter, but I got a clip. The candy company, that is. Mars Incorporated is working with scientists at the University of California Berkeley to develop cacao plants that won't wilt In the simplest of terms warmer temps and drier conditions are killing cacao plants Thankfully Brainiacs at UC Berkeley developed gene editing technology that lets scientists and the candy company tweak the crops DNA This is important because over half up the world's chocolate now comes from two countries in West Africa

20:29 according to the International Business Times. But in a few decades, these areas won't be suitable for the plants. If all goes well, instead of relocating them uphill in an area preserved for wildlife, the plants won't rot or wilt where they are and we get to enjoy more chocolate! So thank you UC Berkeley Mars & The Gene Editing Tool You could call them The Three Musketeers See what I did there? Yeah... GMO- yeah GMO Chocolate Sounds good. Is this true? Does this really affecting the cocoa plants? No, it's a bull crap story! It is just like to put an egg on it? Is this the Chocolate Council of America? Yes, put an egg on by the chocolate people There must be a Chocolate Council of America Oh I'm sure there's more than one

21:20 America let me just see let me see what they're saying yes chocolate council the national the National Confectioners Association That probably would be one of them now. You're talking to see if there's any news was a samples Not on the website you lick your screen slave hmm no I don't see any any news about it here that was a Mars Mars did that one oh yeah, you're right so Mars is going all GMO and No, they just wanted to plug Dream Musketeers and their brand name Mars Bar. And the guy did see what I did there? Yeah you got paid to do that douche now we get it

22:02 Yeah, no I ran that story about this bullcrap. I had a I had a lunch the other day with someone anonymous and This person's partner works what kind of person is this it's anonymous person But it isn't a person that works as a banker Is it a lawyer? Is it I can't tell you in this case but it's unimportant because this person's partner is Works at a food analysis company. Yeah, and so they work for Kraft and you know all the big packaged food outfits and they use very according to this person very sophisticated algorithms to determine two things in two things only in all packaged food

22:48 One, how can they put in less ingredients? And two, how can they make it more addictive. They've even developed these special... you probably know about this the salt crystals that are triangular so there's less, they take up less mass or less space yet they have more flavor. Yeah, very expensive Oh, it's expensive? Well it's not as cheap as just junk salt. But they're trying... all they're trying to do- The idea behind those crystals is that they were developed for people with Delaware Salt Intake because it tastes just as salty but there isn't much salt in it You don't think they've improved that down to a cost basis case

23:29 I would guess not personally, but because it's a new technology and they don't just run the prices down for no good reason when they don't have to. But if you look at mac and cheese from Kraft it's pretty much two ingredients. You know? It's plastic and cheese flavoring Yeah, pretty much That's what they're striving for Some emulsifiers Yeah It looks like cheese! Yeah, smells like cheese! And looks like macaroni Good enough for me Yeah, exactly. Some joker one of our producers sent me one of the uh... One of those Amazon buttons, a stupid button to push To order something? Yeah! To order mac and cheese And how does it work do you have to connect it to Wi-Fi or what is the connection mechanism

24:16 All I know is that when the baby's over and they just start pushing the button, push, push. A lot of mac and cheese shows up. Bundles of it. No you have to somehow turn it on on the... luckily you have to turn it on at Amazon website somehow. I don't know. Not even interested in it. Just thought was funny Yeah. I'm about to get very uninterested in my talking tube Oh really? Why this? Well there are a couple of actually who reported this consumer watchdog that Where's my wolf when I need it exactly Amazon filed a patty something. Yeah, actually just had a Tums. I had a little sour so you have a little Amazon filed a patent and the patent is going to make use of the fact that the talking tube is always in listening mode and

25:19 We know this, it's not a big secret. Yes you use the wake word to activate it but its listening and here is for Amazon Echo uses Wake Word Amazon has envisioned using that information to build profiles anyone on the room can sell them stuff. Amazon filed patent application for an algorithm that lets device identify statements of interest such as I love skiing enabling the speaker to be surveilled based on their interests and targeted for related advertising. Anyway, you didn't see this coming... Well no but here's the thing I'm okay with them doing that here's the problem when will the stupid slaves of Gitmo Nation wake up and realize that Amazon should be paying them to do this people are still buying these things yeah this is like wearing around somebody's logo on a pan overpriced shirt

26:20 No shit, you got a point there. Of course the slaves will never wake up they love this shit Yeah look what I've got Chanel! Look my Chanel! It's like hey Are they paying you to be the spokesperson? Do you have those pink sweatpants with pink on them? Yeah I wear pink sweatpants now They go great with your Crocs. Absolutely! But that folds right into a story in the New York Times... Well before you fold right into that, I have an aside. I've thought about this, for some reason it just came to me when i was driving because I don't listen. I just drive. Normally James is driving you yes and so uh... I'm thinking what if but tell me this would not be a great idea If you could hack that Amazon tube or any of the tubes You'd hack it

27:15 So instead of, it's listening all the time because it's listening all the time anyway. But it is constantly phoning home to some specific IP address. No no that's not true but okay I understand what you're saying. And I'm saying you hack it so it phones home Oh okay Some IP address one of yours! You give this thing to somebody as a Christmas gift and then monitor everything they do. So if anybody... That should be a feature. I agree! I'm telling you, this is one of those no agenda tips we try to provide in every show so people add maybe five dollars to their donation. If you get a gifted Amazon Echo send it back We need to appropriate such a hack. I like that idea

28:04 I know. And somebody out there could probably do it too! I can think of five or six guys who could probably do it. Yeah, and with the new Echo you can... There's a camera and everything so you could do that too. That's great! That is a good idea. Now here's the thing that's disturbing though this comes from The New York Times Yeah, and actually you know you had showed me I think after the last show whenever it was You were showing me how on because I'm new to Windows 10 How to find all these apps that shit had been installed And I'd like a candy crush app or something which believe me was never accessed on this computer Or anything of mine Yet there. It wasn't so you know these little stuff That's being installed

28:45 New York Times had a report about I think this is only Android devices But it's a big audience. A lot of these games like Honeyquest, Pool 3D Bowling Strike, Ten Pin They are of course free then you play them to your heart's content but as you're sitting there on the couch playing it It activates your microphone and listens to what TV is playing and will start to hand off advertising targeting based upon what commercials you saw, which I think is because that's just a signature. It's pretty easy to identify once you have the database and then it starts targeting online ads with the product you saw on television

29:29 You know, this seems to me to be one of those technologies that somebody put through together to get some venture capital funding because I want to make the argument that...I doubt if any of this stuff even comes close to working. And I say that because everybody myself you everybody listens at the show probably a one time or another got butt dialed. In fact, I get butt dialed a lot because I'm at the top of most people's list. Fascinating! So you get the butt dial and now you hear somebody, might be able to identify them. Maybe not, but you can usually by the phone number and uh... You listen? You listen? You can't hear anything! For one thing it's in their pocket or is laying around and you can't... Hey what's up? What's up? Here are some people mumbling in the background I think I've only one time ever actually heard part of a conversation

30:26 But generally speaking, it's useless. So if these guys think that by we I don't even care what the array microphones that they use in those devices Amazon and the rest If they think they're going to be picking up the TV set and figuring out what ads there are, they're nuts. This is bull crap! I'm sorry but this is proven technology. It works extremely well with audio signatures. Radio station ratings are also done this way. With sound monitoring? Yeah, if you put the thing right up to the speaker. No! I can be in a crowded restaurant and it'll work... no that's not true It's just it's a sound signature It may not be able to hear what people are saying and to discern that but it can definitely get a sound signature from an ad That has music in it is packaged. I think you're wrong

31:21 I think i'm right. No, you're wrong! I think it's bullcrap It's obvious now this stuff works ads are already tracked this way Records are tracked this way sound scan tracks this way when it comes to-I'm sorry when it comes to a signature for audio Yes that is now possible There's plenty of examples and I've had in myself where you use one of these things and they can't figure out the song Yeah okay And if you're going to be playing an all-state ad, where the guy's talking and there is no music. Very few ads have music by the way. They are mostly somebody trying to sell you something. You're really fighting on something that I don't understand because it has already been proven to work! Well send me the papers. I'll send you a clip...the papers AND a clip. Yes

32:15 And a lot of people, and I will say mainly millennials. They're complaining a lot just you can bing it saying hey is my phone...and they all say Facebook Is Facebook listening to my phone because when i'm talking about something and it shows up? No! I'm convinced these are all the LF games that have these free crappy games and they're playing them while watching TV or something else on and That's why its picking stuff up It's picking it up from the TV and then giving ads. Let's assume it works, because I have another argument. We'll go past that and we'll go to the guy... Okay so you're playing Candy Crush on your phone, it's got that mic on its got whatever just is listening into that house and there's a tv on because I've watched television with the kids and they watch a little bit of NCIS and they go under their computer on their little phones and that's the end of it they don't care

33:12 So you're watching, you're playing the game. The TV is so inconsequential that it's going to pick up what the TV is doing and then try to sell you that stuff? You're not interested or you wouldn't be on the phone in the first place playing the game! You know very little about advertising there's so much that works subliminally and if people...you hear this and certainly from the advertising... I've run big advertising companies. Oh, okay! Then I defer. I will say no more. If you just let me finish? Go on Oh man, the microaggressions are huge today. They're macro. Yes! Microaggressions just go finish your story. You're defending bullshit as far as I'm concerned but go on. Yeah well fine but i'm not condescending like an ass like you are. You've been condescending there's no reason to do that I have a different opinion and different experience

34:08 Now, you're okay. Well good. We're not even gonna make it to show 1000 anymore. Listen to me. Listen, you can sell to an advertiser this you can sell this to them they will love it Whether it's really effective is secondary. Well, that's all I'm concerned about now You can sell you're right you can sell all kinds of crap to advertisers including internet advertising Which is the main thing? You complain about yes every chance you get and uh, yeah We have no disagreement about that. I'm just saying It's happening. You know, I had this thing this thing happened in the magazine business where they advertisers are

34:53 really went toward media buyers. They'd hire these women right out of college and they were media buyers, and they would work for the big ad agencies and they were determined that should put their ads in PC Magazine or Forbes or various whatever magazine it felt like so I was on the Forbes yacht on one of these trips where they cajoled these buyers and there all kids as far as I was concerned Just out of college, usually out of Ivy League schools and mostly women. It's only gotten worse it's now just plain moronic millennials who don't care this was the precursor Well this was the precursor and they were they didn't care either And there were probably Millennials but the older group

35:38 and they're mostly almost all women, and you sit down with them. Because a lot of them are attractive if you want to sit down and chat find out what's going on say hello And they all knew nothing! They knew nothing about anything Nothing about... nothing about nothing They knew nothing about nothin' So it was like holy mackerel this is terrible Yeah It just deteriorated from there as far I was concerned although You know, I try to... Okay. So imagine, hey boss! Boss! Uh... Omnicom they just had this cool system we get in the game and then here's a song and then here is the commercial and then put it right in their face bag for you. Boss why should we buy that? And boss goes what do you think? Is it good? Yeah, It's cool done That's because apparently have money to burn by ripping off their own customers Yes so back to the original topic that the listening talking tubes

36:37 People should start telling Amazon and Google and Apple that or Amazon in particular like yeah, you should give me this box and pay me a couple hundred bucks a month to have it in my home. They will do that It's worth it to them Well, I'd put a box in my home if i could get a check for 200 bucks every month. That's your price of freedom and something? 200 bucks a month that's all it took? Yeah good! Well shit they should just give everybody 200 bucks a month and then hang the mics up you know put a little you know like a heil

37:15 Here's what you do. If you're still concerned, I would do the following get your 200 bucks a month take as little small portable radio and just turn it on and leave it right next to this thing all the time and just do whatever you want to do. You don't have to sit there and tell your secrets. Collected checks. It's coming. Call faxing it in. It's coming. That's fun. All right. Oh, um... Let's get back to the real news. Yes we can do that How about a little compilage of the media's reaction to the Trump North Korea button tweet? I would love it

38:08 Well, it just so happens I have a good one. 16 tweets today to start the new year some of them deeply disturbing these are the messages from a person who is not well, from a leader who is not fit for office this is language that would have been rejected from the script of Dr. Strangelove we can't begin to normalize this, this is dangerous this is childish this is unprecedented it's not befitting a leader in the free world none of this normal none of this acceptable none of this frankly stable behavior This is so far outside the principles and and and the norms of presidential behavior that we are in an outer space realm here

37:15 Here's what you do. If you're still concerned, I would do the following get your 200 bucks a month take as little small portable radio and just turn it on and leave it right next to this thing all the time and just do whatever you want to do. You don't have to sit there and tell your secrets. Collected checks. It's coming. Call faxing it in. It's coming. That's fun. All right. Oh, um... Let's get back to the real news. Yes we can do that How about a little compilage of the media's reaction to the Trump North Korea button tweet? I would love it

38:08 Well, it just so happens I have a good one. 16 tweets today to start the new year some of them deeply disturbing these are the messages from a person who is not well, from a leader who is not fit for office this is language that would have been rejected from the script of Dr. Strangelove we can't begin to normalize this, this is dangerous this is childish this is unprecedented it's not befitting a leader in the free world none of this normal none of this acceptable none of this frankly stable behavior This is so far outside the principles and and and the norms of presidential behavior that we are in an outer space realm here

38:49 in authoritarian countries. Trump needs to be medicated and hospitalized at this point or he is going to just kill all of us He's not merely being cavalier with a threat about nuclear war, he's being cavalier in a way that makes him seem demented and deranged Perhaps never have we seen a man whose profound sexual and masculine insecurities are literally threatening to annihilate the planet Literally threatening to annihilate the planet actually got one that guy let me see where is he? That's Arnon's Grid Harada's are you familiar with this guy no, he's a dark-skinned guy with like silver silver hair and

39:38 It's very, very odd to look at. Here is the full statement from him. Indian CIA? Yeah well he is Indian or Pakistani not sure from origin but his hair has an odd color. Interesting thought from Donald Trump about the size of his nuclear button and the threat that he just put up against the North Korean leader your thoughts As we saw all through 2017, men with profound sexual insecurity can wreak a lot of havoc in the lives of women and the lives of their families. But perhaps never have we seen a man whose profound sexual and masculine insecurities are literally threatening to annihilate

40:18 the planet. I mean, the way he's literally capitalizing in that tweet is nuclear button. I mean any psychiatrist or psychologist would have a field day with that but we all live in a world that could literally be ended... Literally! ...in terms of a habitable planet because of this sad man's insecurity And it's just another chink in the Hitler puzzle another piece You know, he had a frustrating childhood. He had a mother complex you know I had issues with his sexuality of course and it was complex. Yeah yeah I think that you should examine the guy should probably take a look at his wife and then take a look at Trump's three wives see what he thinks but i don't want to get into that no

41:01 I heard one of the guys go on about this is the most unbelievable, unprecedented thing that anyone could ever do. There's no history for it... No precedence whatsoever! So i do have The Reagan Bombing Joke from 1984 The one heard around the world? No not that one! No no no! Oh! The Reagan Bombing Joke 1984 My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today That I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever We begin bombing in five minutes. Yes, I remember that now it seems very similar and just at the time I Remember the response vaguely because I was quite young what was the country's response to this joke? Well, here's the thing that gets I do have the news story that ran because of this joke And that's the derailleur heard around the world and I want to set this up a little bit because this was the

41:58 The news media not only Kind they ran the story as a straight news story about what happened with Russia, but the difference in attitude With Reagan and even though he was Republican the news media Cited with him with it were that kind of a slam against the opponent in ways Unlike we've ever heard since this guy got an office because this is almost like a conspiracy Compared to what the way. It was there listen to the way they presented the story I've signed legislation outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes It was the joke heard around the world, the one by President Reagan about bombing the Soviet Union and it resulted in a soviet red alert and became a campaign issue in this country Now Marvin Kalb has learned that the Soviets responded in their own fashion

42:51 The president was joking his way through an audio check on August 11th. I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever, we begin bombing in five minutes... By August 14 the story became world news a major item on Moscow television where the joke was not treated as a laughing matter. August 15th a coded message left Soviet military headquarters in Vladivostok It said in part, we now embark on military action against the US forces. The code was instantly broken by US and Japanese intelligence This is what then happened a special command unit in Ussuriysk went on wartime alert key Japanese military units raised their readiness status

43:36 Soviet naval vessels in the North Pacific baffled by the order checked with Vladivostok. Confusion, US intelligence urgently canvassed for signs of an imminent Soviet attack found none There was what they described as a wayward operator in the Soviet Far Eastern Command who sent out a message alerting Soviet forces in that area, that a state of war existed between the United States and the Soviet Union. Within 30 minutes, the mysterious Soviet alert was cancelled Was it unusual? Not according to US officials They said it particularly happens on weekends when discipline is less than it might be on weekdays But August 15th was a weekday

44:17 One senator said the alert must have been a joke. A congressman said it was Russia's way of answering the president Most officials said no comment, though one did speculate that the Russian might have been drunk Marvin Kalb NBC News The State Department Yeah That's good! What beautiful to hear an old news report like that I like it The authority in the voice is quite amazing Yeah, and they back up the president more or less. They say the guy's drunk, the other guy that was Russian... And it was nothing like the way that clip blitz you played of all these little hating on Trump stuff. It just there is no comparison because the whole system has been corrupted somehow by

45:07 I'm now calling the Pantsuit Brigade. These are the pro-Hillary people, and the reason that bring that up is because Mimi's down here and she's talking about what's going on in Port Angeles politics... Oh it must be fun! And some new woman who is part of the Pantsuit Brigade, as she puts it has gotten to be vice mayor nobody knows who this person is but its the Hillary supporters that somehow got her in as Vice Mayor of the little town and she was telling me this story This is exactly what's going on and everything that is leading up to Hillary running again in 2020 because she still thinks she can beat this guy because she beat him by the popular vote. Do you think she's still gonna try? She hasn't figured it out yet. I am totally convinced, I think its a whole nationwide movement and she is going to get beaten again probably worse

45:58 Because she's so old. She's gonna get the Democrats are freaked out Yeah, they don't want her anywhere near the party anymore They're freaked out and this all this that you're playing and I'm playing is all telling me the same story Is that is that there media is all in for Hillary? Everybody everybody wants Hillary they wanted to run again because how did she lose You know we've we have examined the Goldwater rule in Trump rotation now of course we're back to he's insane, he's unhinged, he's crazy. He has his finger on the button. He pretty much poked the bear with that tweet but for the first time I heard a serious although ludicrous a serious argument for the president's mental condition and it comes from a book

46:52 And a concept, so we have the Goldwater rule. This is when Barry Goldwater was being pronounced insane by psychologists in the media back in the day when he was running and he sued them for defamation of character and I presume he won or whatever it is, psychologists and psychiatrists adopted the Goldwater rule as you just don't talk about people's psyche on television if... If you do not have them in examination room? ...if you haven't examined them exactly right So, on Democracy Now!, there was a very interesting report. And let me see what is this woman's name? Her name is... I think it's mentioned in this report Judy mentions it duty to warn is the concept that has now being brought forward That seems to be part of the Hippocratic Oath for psychologists Is you have a duty to warn! Oh that's good word Yeah and I think it refers like if someone is planning to shoot up a place

47:54 You know, if you had a Dylann Roof or one of these guys, you have a duty to warn the officials. And they've written a book about it too! We end today's Democracy Now! special by looking at President Trump's mental health and growing movement among mental health professionals called Duty To Warn. Last month, President Trump slurred his speech and mispronounced his words during an address on Israel. White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders responded to questions about Trump's slurred speech by announcing he'd scheduled a physical health exam. Meanwhile, New York Times chief White House reporter Maggie Haberman commented on Trump's behavior when she was interviewed on CNN last month.

48:33 Something is unleashed with him lately. I don't know what is causing it, I don't know how to describe it— Oh you see a difference in the past days? Weeks? I think the last couple of days tweets have been unhinged. Markedly accelerated in terms of seeming a little unmoored This all comes as Pentagon leaders told a Senate panel they would ignore any unlawful order by the president to launch a nuclear strike The testimony came as part of the first congressional hearings in more than 40 years on the president's authority to start a nuclear war. Dr. Bandy Lee is a forensic psychiatrist on the faculty— There you go. —of Yale School of Medicine and— Oh, Yaley! That says a lot. —an internationally recognized expert on violence. She edited the book The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President.

49:27 The book became a bestseller when it was published in October. I can't believe we didn't hear about this book, I've seen no promotion! Yeah but it's damn good Let's continue. Trump, 27th psychiatrist and— Democracy Now! is damn good? Yeah, yeah, for getting caught up in it. Well, they have a lot of good fringe stuff. Yeah, I use it. This is not fringe. This is a bestselling book. Mental health experts assess a president. The book became a bestseller when it was published in October. I began by asking her about her concerns about President Trump's mental health.

50:07 It's actually historically unprecedented that so many mental health professionals have come forth with their concerns. Says something about the mental health field, doesn't it? Under any president of any party. So it really is the first time that this many mental health professionals are coming together in a coalition we even have a website- Stop there for a second I'm reminded 97% of all scientists coming together in a coalition and that being talked about to an extreme, well the 30 thousand scientists who signed that letter denying this whole global warming thing are obfuscated.

50:55 Well, it's pushed marginalized. Marginalized. And I wonder if somebody could put together a similar group of professionals that would have the opposite opinion? To be marginalized? To be margin... Hey guys! You want to be marginalized come over here sign this document under any president of any party. So it really is the first time that this many mental health professionals are coming together in a coalition, we even have a website now dangerouscase.org where the public and lawmakers can discourse with us. Discourse with us? Wow! Hey want to discourse with me baby

51:40 I remember when I was a kid, we thought it was really funny. And we said yes, I want to have verbal intercourse with you. Dangerouscase.org where the public and lawmakers can discourse with us. There are thousands of us at this point. Lay out what your concerns are as a psychiatrist? So our concerns are that someone with this level of mental instability and impairment has this much power in the office of the presidency, basically the power to start a devastating war, to launch nuclear missiles.

52:20 Without any inhibition, you saw from the hearings that there is very little inhibition in place right now. Within five minutes of the commander-in-chief's orders, nuclear missiles could be launched without question." And how does that relate to his mental fitness? Oh! Leading the witness— And, of course, his decisionmaking capacity having such levels of impulsivity, having a loose grip on reality and being so fragile in his ability to cope with ordinary stresses, such as basic criticisms or unflattering news will tend to unravel especially in times of heightened stress such as under the special counsel's investigations. What is most concerning for us— I like Judy.

53:15 That's Amy. Amy, I'm sorry—I like how she adds the investigation is adding so much stress. She has no idea how much stress or not will tend to unravel especially in times of heightened stress such as under those special counsels' investigations. What is most concerning for us is that his way of coping with this critical sense of need at every moment so much to the point where he cannot think of the past or the future, or consequences. His main urgency is to quench the need at the moment. And the way he does this is by burnishing his power, by going to belligerent language or affirming conflicts and others' sense

54:10 The world is a threatening place where you have to be violent. So I've been in therapy and like I'd like therapy but she said nothing of that has anything to do with his issues so You know, she would say well it seems like he has a mother issue or father issue an authority issue She says nothing none of that if she's only just she's just on the hinge. She's unhinged. I tell ya now This again, I think I don't know if I'm gonna stay with this theme forever. But this is again the pantsuit brigade thing I'm thinking The reason that we didn't hear of this book or why this book didn't get more play it would order authors weren't floating around Besides the fact that she sounds pretty dull is

54:55 They, they that the scheme in place which I'm described since the beginning. The scheme in places never is not to get rid of Trump or to really get him out of office which is what something like this is trying to do right it's to keep them in the news at a high pitch level where you're going through the Trump rotation you calling him on Hitch one minute and there's unfit for office the next incompetent everything the liar, womanizer hates women and because you want to get the base the Democrat base that come out in vote in 2018. If Trump is out

55:34 That's no good. That ain't gonna happen! Yeah, but they also know that this is... the media has got to do something. They're complicit for sure Well they're totally complicit but this particular book was marginalized actually not if we talk about the other one that didn't doesn't exist But this book has been marginalized on a bestseller way it doesn't even mean anything anymore You know best sellers are kind of a statistical thing and it could be Stop stop Best seller you said something very professional sellers are a statistical thing. Yes They way they determine the best seller is kind of like more momentum than actual total sales Oh, I didn't know who it depends on whose list you're talking about The best I agree with the list yes could be it's like I'm

56:28 I'm a Marconi award winner. You know, but if i just leave it at that It sounds like a big deal when you say in Holland's like oh okay Yeah right it drops it what? Oh Okay fine all right good But I did not know that books were not counted just pure by sales. As far as I know, it's done on a kind of statistical basis in terms of momentum of the book. They can't do total sales because they don't have those numbers anymore! Amazon has the numbers. Yeah you're right...I remember talking about that And so they, you know—so you have a number of booksellers that come in with their numbers and they're all typically the kind of—they're slanted. You know, they're not going to Christian bookstores and asking whether they get any hot sellers there. And they don't necessarily go to the publishers, and the publishers will just push certain books anyway. This is very sketchy, very…I mean…

57:25 I'm sure I could get an argument from somebody who puts you in one of these lists. Well, just so you know, just looking at the Amazons... The dangerous case of Donald Trump 27 psychiatrists and mental health experts assess a president number one bestseller in Health Mind & Body Yeah that's where it is. There ya go. Got it okay So when you say Jesus a best-seller we never heard of it yeah that's why Because it wasn't a bestseller, it was just the book of carping shrinks who hate Trump. But again I still see this as especially with that woman the way she sounds she seems like a pantsuit brigade type and who she...I bet you if you could ask her if she'd vote for Hillary in 2020 she would say yes! This is a big deal

58:20 Yeah, the Pantsuit Brigade you mean? Yeah and Hillary running it. I mean it's actually Pantsuit Nation is the Facebook group. I think that's where it comes from. Pantsuit Nation we'll use that. Yeah Pantsuit Nation and I'm a member of the group! Yeah, I know you are. It's harsh. I'm still questioning this by the way but it is to your motives Why? Why?! This is why! This is completely unnecessary uncalled for yeah You're right. I mean, I don't know...it's cloudy out and it's raining Okay well with that

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59:57 Our artists are fabulous and they do this for us every single show. There's new artwork we get to choose from a range We truly truly truly enjoyed and appreciated no agenda art generator calm Thank you alright, let's thank a few people who are executive and associate executive producers for show Nine nine six so we got four to go or six now We do have somebody came in with a thousand bucks So they're gonna get double executive producer credit as well the people that did last triple yeah as did the people who contributed that much last show. We have to remember put them on this list too. So Black Balls of Twit, Baron of Logan Square This is my last-ditch attempt to get John to unblock me on Twitter My twitter handle is at Kevin Bay and I you know...I'm pretty sure That he's not blocked on Twitter. I've had two or three guys say You blocked me! And they're not blocked. Hmm. I'll go unblock him

1:00:58 But I bet you, I'll go there and it's not blocked. It's not blocked. Hmm troubling troubling And may I request some LP TV and small market FM karma? Yes of course small markets Small market FM Wait wait, I'm sorry I have several things in the works for which i need positive outcomes and being an LP TV and a small market FM at the bottom rung of The broadcast ladder. I'm hoping the right things to happen for me in 2018 keep up with good work gents NJNK this is interesting there's a lot of low power fm, the capabilities that the FCC has enabled for people to participate in it? They enable then they disable then they enable them they disable it but what really what is

1:01:44 I mean, it just seems like an arachnism. You know? It's like we don't... this is kind of old school. We wish you tons of karma for the venture! I'm just curious. Oh well but- I misread his thing as NJJK. Which is no jingles JUST Karma. Okay, well there ya go. Yes Got it. Yes, I guess the small market FM thing is interesting. Well they gotta do some because the Internet's going to push a lot of these guys out of business if they don't well there's that but you know it's just over-the-air broadcasts is just going to diminish and I just don't see a big future

1:02:24 Timothy, Timothy Gross 33. I wish I could still get somebody to clean up our shows and we can put them on give him away to some of the over the air broadcasters dream on dream on he had a guy who's doing okay it's my fault i screwed it up that's what you say every couple of months timothy gross st petersburg florida 333 dot John and Adam, after much goading harassment in the triple douchebag call out from my dear friend Sir Francis of SRQ on episode 978 I'm finally making my first donation. He hit me in the mouth several months ago and I've been an avid listener ever since. I was initially skeptical of his recommendation to listen to this show as Sir Francis was a longtime bushy

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1:03:53 I'm looking forward to his upcoming announcement on No Agenda, to No Agenda listeners that he will be opening this beautiful North Carolina vacation home shortly. To other no agenda listeners way to go Sir Francis please provide the requisite de-douching for myself and then whoopie get out of my vagina Putin don't worry be happy Stalzito Schiavo, shut up slave in Italian. And a health karma from my friend Mark Maluccio. We first have to... Oh no we don't have to do the tri- he got a triple douchebag called okay I got it dedouching first. You've been dedouched Get out of my vagina!

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1:07:08 Joshua, well that's what he said. He just donated again. Got it got it my mistake my mistake But we should just upgrade him to a Vicon because apparently he has given money before and was never an instant knight right? A Joshua Wycopen or Wychopen one of the two 233 34 become an executive associate executive producer for show 996 glad they have finally made it to knighthood accounting below Wanted to achieve knighthood on show 1000 so I've been waiting it out for a bit Congrats on making it this far look to it. Look we look forward to another 1,000 I even passed up the double credits you offered to do it. I would like to be knighted sir JW night of the social media and also like to call out dr John D Leon who hit me in the mouth several years ago as a man overboard shit. I should have had that ready Man overboard I can do it Pretty close

1:08:05 Yeah, like that he emphasizes the overboard more than I do. I've not heard him donate in several years And although he has a PhD and I don't I beat him to what really matters knighthood so he can suck it I would love to get some jobs karma followed by a little girl yay and a milf call out kicker for the for Kirsten photo attached in my email my smoking hot wife of nearly nine years and Melissa to John's wife if I could get a single month Single malt, Melissa. Okay? Yeah John DeLeon I got it DeLeon yes, I got it I understand If I could get a single malt scotch and horny milfs in the nighting ceremony that would be great

1:08:58 Okay, we will put that in. Yeah, we'll put that in absolutely I'm gonna do it a little different order if you don't mind That's one mother I'd like to oh my gosh Can you see that juice? Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs We've got karma And I'm putting single malt scotch and horny milfs at the table. Single malt, scotch and horny milfs...and why not? Sounds groovy! Last but not least Dennis Price 200 bucks Pine Grove California 2017 was another great year from you guys even though i can't remember any of it Happy New Year Dennis

1:09:47 That concludes our list of executive associate executive produced for show nine nine six actually we have Had an in-hand donation. Oh in hand in hand yes Let me see if I can find it yes, I had the anonymous CPA I had lunch with the anonymous CPA in Austin who was from California and he dropped by and handed us a check for $3,333.33 How about that? Well he goes right to the top He goes right to the top And uh... So he wants to be- So he's an Insta Baron He will be known as the Barron Sir Anonymous CPA And uhh... The reason for this donation amount is I've been listening since show number one

1:10:46 Which is that's what I said. Said then no wonder you're kind of going bald. Sorry, sorry And As he actually played the wrong clips I play one of his clips You know He had gotten his like accounting stuff for actual billionaires people who have you know pay like 50 million a year in taxes and Very interesting first of all he brought little pieces of paper, and he showed me exactly

1:11:25 How someone making, you know, making enough money to be paying between 10 and 50 million dollars a year. You're probably on the shy side of being a billionaire but you know you're definitely up there he says every single case they're all paying more taxes and in most cases it's probably about one... You mean from the new tax bill? Yeah, the new tax bill yeah The new tax bill is supposed to be benefiting the rich Bullshit And he said, this is one of the reasons why I love No Agenda so much. He says like you know because now that i see again that the media is so dishonest about this and not just the media but the entire political operatic is dishonest about it. So here's something I actually know about you know like Adam when you talk about aviation you actually know about aviation? I said yeah since I'm...I just consider everything to be bullcrap and

1:12:15 The No Agenda show, he says I think this amount is pretty much what it costs for a master class in college. And that's how we came up with the numbers. It's about $3500 probably and so he considers our show to be a master class. Yeah and saying the media is full of crap! They lie! Yes yes So he wants to be known as The Anonymous CPA He will be a baron Just as an aside Not knowing, I wasn't at the conversation but it seems to me like their tax bracket went down a couple.

1:12:55 But they get a lot of benefits from all the properties they own and all the real estate taxes that they now can't, don't get to pay. Which is a lot! And so they take a beating on that and they take a beating on sales tax and they take a beating on all kinds of things now although they get... The media, M5M has been going about this two-point dip in their overall tax rate but It's just nonsense. I mean, and they just do it incessantly. It's like that crazy group of clips you played earlier about Trump being unhinged. He's crazy! He has a small penis!

1:13:35 And so he's our go-to guy now for stuff like this, which is great. Yeah That's really really good He's and he really does the the legal side of it all DNA and he knows the laws inside out So it was a great addition to the Noah Jenna family Of course he's been here since episode 1 and I look forward to inducting him into the roundtable of the know agenda Knights and dames and handing him his barren sash Later on then he sent me a message here Uh, Jingles I'd Like to be Dedouched followed by Can You See That Juice? then Pelosi Jobs Jobs Jobs Trump Jobs Jobs Jobs then Angela Merkel Arbite Arbite Arbite which hadn't heard in a while. Oh let me dedouche him first hold on

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1:16:44 After you mentioned your love for the show Black Mirror, which I just arose from a single night dose of watching the whole effing season. Here's some screenshots from the new behavior scoring app my current day job is going to be using to replace performance evaluations It is literally a copy of Tinder where you swipe left and right as people who you work with appear on your app And after a little bit of time it generates a behavior score which can be used to fire your ass in the morning. The future is closer than we think, you've got to see this! It's the R Habit app rhabitapp.com

1:17:28 You want me to look it up now? Yeah, might as well. I mean he sent me some screenshots which i'm going to put in the show notes which will be 996.noageneroats.com Is that r dot or just rhabbit? Rhabbitapp.com and so I see here on the app a junior software engineer and there's already comment when others talk to Joey he pays attention and does not do other things on the side He listens generously But then you have all these different ratings. I mean, this is exactly what Black Mirror was just for the workplace and it's disturbing! Got rhabitapp.com nothing? R-H-A-B-I-T app app dot com? 1b. R-H-A-B-I-T APP Oh... What am i thinking? I don't know what you're thinking

1:18:17 I'm thinking rabbit. It's like it sounds like a rabbit thing Yeah, so performance management will never be the same. This sounds like stack ranking in a different form But but the way it is So you're near your colleague and you know what? You know what? I'm gonna do a comment! I'm gonna put a little thing in the app about him He listens well he's good swipe right This is this is like secret police time. Oh, yeah, it's all been secret police That's what the stack ranking is But this is codifying it in a very You're right a tinder grinder Yeah, its tinder

1:19:02 I think Grindr's funnier. It makes more sense, but what we do team... Rabbit is a mobile first performance management experience that makes the annual review obsolete! Uh-huh this thing is great. Oh brother. Yeah Professor Ted would be very happy with it. This is definitely classic only on no agenda Have you been following the self serve law in Oregon? No, were they changing it again? Well I don't know what changed other than as of January 1st now you can have self-serve gas stations and the Oregonians are losing their crap over it on the face bag.

1:19:51 I can see that. It's been a tradition in Oregon to hire two or three people to work at the gas station, now they won't have to hire them anymore. People are afraid of other people don't know how to pump gas and they'll blow the place up... Yeah! Seriously? And you're like, I'm not going to leave my child in the car while I'm pumping gas, my kid could get kidnapped Yeah, because of all these fabulous Oregonian experts who've got degrees in pumping gas. Well we just took away those jobs! Well more people have bitched about the thing because you can't even get out of your car and

1:20:31 But you know, they pumped the gas and then you I don't know. It's archaic in the first place that they have these people. When I was a kid yeah, they'd come out and pump your gas They'd open the hood. They check your oil. They wash your windows. They give you a free map And this would when gasoline was 25 cents a gallon good times and they check your tire pressure That put air in the tires. They did all of these things Yes, yes all good if messed it all up Well, they just cheapened out on the whole thing and there you go. Margin squeeze. Margin squeeze? Okay so anyway one of the things that happened just like yesterday or the day before is this book excerpt from the new Michael Wolff book Yes! yes...yes..yes I have a bunch of clips about this Good! Uhh...I read the excerpts in New York Magazine And I wanna point out first and foremostly

1:21:33 Bannon did not say Donald Trump Jr. is a acted, you know committed an act of treason which is the way the headline is reading he said whether You think it's treasonous or just bad or you know? Not kosher that's like three things like that The be should have called the FBI He didn't say it was treasonous Which is just something I need to point out Well, everybody says he did. Of course! And he's also gonna be squashed like an egg. Cracked like an egg on TV. Just going back to my theory about Jared it seems to me

1:22:21 That, you know... Why is this happening? Why is this taking place?" Yeah. You might—this is your thesis I want to point out to everybody and you're sticking with it now. I like the thesis. I just haven't jumped on it." No! It appears that— Get rid of him. Well that no they're gonna make Trump Jr the fall guy for it instead of getting rid of Kushner But Kushner's the problem. Oh, I see. I'm sorry. I was misunderstanding where you were headed. Yeah that's a good idea. I think that's a good theory. Kushner is the problem and and i think if Trump had to choose—I'm just guessing—i think he probably would hate to have to disappoint Ivanka so...and Jared Kushner IS the problem! He IS the bad actor in all this. He is — I think HE'S the money launderer

1:23:06 He's got all kinds of problems with his real estate holdings in New York. The Chinese own his ass Yeah, and his father was corrupt it was big went to jail but the jail yeah Paul It's you know the animal doesn't change its stripes so anyway So I that's what it feels like to me like this okay? You know well then of course the president can pardon junior, so he's not gonna go to jail But then someone will take the fall, it all ends. Jared's protected which is sad for the Republic. Yeah Don Jr takes... Well this book Michael Wolff is a hack you know he's pretty thorough He's not a complete hack and he knows how to write a book that sells And uh.. The thing that surprises me before I play any of these clips

1:23:57 Is that Wolf had done a book on the Murdochs. Right, that was his other claim to fame That was his first one I think Nooo...I think he's done it well look him up while i'm saying this and see how many books He's done I think he's in quite a few And he his Murdoch book he was good buddies with all the Murdocks and then after the book came out he was they hated him because I heard Him talking about this on a discussion show like you'll be surprised by the books His first book in 79 white kids then Then in 92, where we stand can America make it in the global race for wealth health and happiness? Then this one 98 burn rate how I survived the gold rush years on the internet that one. I've read then autumn of the moguls my misadventures with the Titans posers and money guys who mastered messed up big media never heard of It then the man who owns the news inside The Secret World of Rupert Murdoch that was 2008

1:24:50 And then television in the new television, The Unexpected Triumph of Old Media and the Digital Age. Never heard of that one! And then Fire & Fury so he's most well known for The Man Who Owns the News and Burnrate. Burnrate I think... didn't they also turn that into a movie? Maybe. Well after he did the Murdoch book which was awhile ago few years ago It makes no sense to me that he was ever invited in to do anything in the White House because Murdoch's close enough to Trump to have quashed the idea. Or you get a Trump, see this is...if anybody has a stumble and mumble and stammer if there's a problem with Trump I think it's unlike Bush, he's not a reader so he probably never read the Murdoch book

1:25:47 Unless it was on audible. George Bush used to read a book a week I don't know that Trump's ever read a book. He's hyperkinetic, so he doesn't have the patience for it, I don't think. I think that might be true. I think you'd rather have a briefing get right. But if he knew anything about this Murdoch book, he wouldn't have let Wolf do anything because he knew it was going to be a slam piece but it is a hit piece. Apparently Wolf was given free reign of the West Wing and just walk around and talk to everybody and everyone was happy to chat. This was because of Bannon? Bannon, yeah. Bannon invited him in and gave him the red carpet treatment anyway let's play this couple of these clips here is the main clip one this is Bannon kerfuffle on CBS As political breakups go this is about as ugly as it gets The president splitting with Steve Bannon one his closest political allies claiming Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency when he was fired

1:26:47 he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Until now Bannon had continued to be a vocal supporter of the Trump agenda following his White House exit this summer but in a series of interviews with author Michael Wolff including some at the White House Bannon mocked the president and his family and accused Donald Trump Jr. of treason for his June 2016 meeting with Russians who had offered incriminating information on Hillary Clinton Bannon said, quote, even if you thought that this was not treasonous or unpatriotic and I happen to think it's all of that. You should have called the FBI immediately. He then speculated that Trump Jr had also involved his father in the meeting.

1:27:29 claim that White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders denied. I think furious, disgusted would probably certainly fit when you make such outrageous claims and completely false claims against the president his administration and his family. Sanders pointed out that Bannon contradicted his characterization of the Russia probe to 60 Minutes in September There's nothing to the Russia investigation It's a waste of time. According to the book, now Bannon says he believes the investigation will focus on money laundering and Trump Jr will quote crack like an egg under scrutiny from the special counsel. Bannon was campaign CEO and chief strategist in the West Wing, a position the White House called equivalent to the Chief of Staff

1:28:14 I like Mr. Bannon, he's a friend of mine Today Mr Trump blasted Bannon saying that he had very little to do with our historic victory Steve Bannon doesn't represent my base He is only in it for himself A lot of people are calling it that, yeah. And I think you're dead right. Just think about their makeup sex! It's gonna be great! Although... which is probably- you're probably right there too this whole thing could be something of a fake but did you notice the whip saw in there? No It's a minor one but it's a good one, CBS style. They're not as good at it as NBC but Bannon kerfluffle isos. Oops. Okay hold on... Kerfuffle Isos yeah? A position the White House called equivalent to the Chief of Staff I like Mr. Bannon he's a friend of mine Yeah yes

1:29:06 Yeah, what's that clip got to do with anything? Ah it's just throwing it in there. Just uh... Spicing up nothing So let's go to part two of this There is only a little piece As for election night the book's author reports that the Trump team actually expected defeat and as election results rolled in showing Trump on the path to victory Don Jr told a friend quote he looked as if he had seen a ghost The White House called this trashy tabloid fiction, Jeff.

1:29:53 I can play it, it's two minutes. It's very similar to the series... Yeah yeah, I'm interested. dramatic scenes as recounted by Wolf, denied by some but nonetheless causing a political firestorm here in Washington DC. We saw the president issue a statement the likes of which few have ever seen. Here's an excerpt from what the president had to say about Steve Bannon who was quoted extensively in the book. The president said he spent his time at the White House leaking false information to the media to make himself seem far more important than he was

1:30:34 It is the only thing he does well. Steve was rarely in a one-on-one meeting with me and only pretends to have had influence to fool a few people with no access and no clue whom he helped write phony books." We also saw the press briefing with Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the Press Secretary here. She was asked whether or not the American people should be concerned about the mental fitness of the President of the United States and here's how she responded I think the president and the people in this country should be concerned about the mental fitness of the leader of North Korea He has made repeated threats

1:31:09 He's tested missiles time and time again for years, and this is a president who is not going to cower down. And he's not going to be weak, and it's gonna make sure that he does what he has promised to do, and that's stand up and protect the American people." the president gathered the world's attention with a tweet about North Korea itself saying this in an emissive last night, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un just stated that the nuclear button on his desk is at all is on his desk at all times. Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a nuclear button but it is much bigger

1:31:46 and more powerful one than his, and my button works." A lot of critics on that tweet saying that the president is engaging in unnecessary and childish nuclear brinksmanship with the leader of North Korea. The president's defenders in the wake of that, Melissa said no he simply standing up to the leader of North Korea and previous approach of a more docile statements by presidents put it that way hasn't worked That what Sarah Huckabee Sanders said here at the White House today The President simply standing up for America with a tweet like that Back over you Yeah, I think my theory fits very well with this. You know for the sudden breakup he's lost his mind you know and and this is not a Banyan book but you know this is him being interviewed and quoting in the book

1:32:32 But and it just seems so obvious like you know, and it calls out Trump jr Specifically when a crack him like an egg because he's got to take these. He's gotta take the fall someone has to take the fall And Mueller's gotta have somebody and it's not gonna be Jared because that would upset Ivanka It's that pathetic I think the fire your fired guy. I don't think he can do it I don't think he could he needed a catalyst and and he got it from this I'm not gonna argue with you on this one because the logic is it's like It's good. It fits, it fits. You're eating! No I'm not, I didn't-I'm not eating anything. Um, um, no? No. I am opening up the bag of lozenges Oh And I will be sucking on one in a second So I don't have this annoying cough

1:33:25 Yeah, your cough always stays with you for a long time. Yeah, that's the problem. Okay so let's go to... I only have one clip left and that is the one... this is the tidbits I got from NBC and they had some reporter with kind of in your term a puker style reporter. Do you want me to play the clip? And this is, wait. I just want to set this up. This is only the very end of his report because he added a number of tidbits and one of them is so blatantly bullcrap that I want to discuss it and see if you feel the same way. Fire & Fury reportedly based on more than 200 interviews many conducted inside The West Wing also reignites questions about Mr Trump's view of women reportedly calling aide Hope Hicks a piece of tail in front of her

1:34:15 and using a vulgar expletive to describe Sally Yates, the acting Attorney General who he would go on to fire. As for his inauguration day, the soon-to be president author Michael Wolff writes was angry feeling slighted by the Obamas and celebrities who refused to perform for him bearing the brunt Melania Trump who according to the book seemed on the verge of tears The first lady's office dismissing it all as fiction Wolf claims first daughter Ivanka and husband Jared Kushner have entertained their own political future, agreeing she'd be the one to run for president. The author also airing dirty laundry about the President's unusual habits and demands at the White House, reprimanding the housekeeping staff for picking up his shirt saying if my shirts on the floor it's because I want it on the floor. That's where I hang up all my clothes

1:35:03 So that sounds like total I mean, here's a guy. That's a billionaire lives in this crazy Ridiculous he has these ridiculous homes that he lives in Manhattan and elsewhere And he's used to having a lot of slave servants I would think yeah probably I don't know and there's no way a guy like that Especially is that sloppy you throw his shirt on the floor? That would tell that person not to pick it up Does this make any sense to you? Yeah, we had the same kinds of rumors from the Clinton White House. From the Obama White House... Then it was always dismissed as rumor and bullcrap so let's do the same now

1:35:47 Yeah, I think it's still a rumor and bullcrap because there is no way that guy who was used to having housekeepers around all the time would reprimand one for picking up a shirt he just threw on the floor because he is a slob. So is that a sloppy billionaire or slobby billionaire? I think slobby and I would think by the way maybe the real message here is He's a slob. They're trying to get that so maybe it's a new thing in the tree rotation. He is a slob, yeah. He is a slob he just leaves stuff on the floor and likes it on the floor! He throws it on the floor and he likes it on the floor! Leave it! Yeah this is bullcrap. This total bullcrap. Yeah I agree but there's a reason for it and we'll see if my theory holds water

1:36:32 We'll see we'll see. We'll see meanwhile Trump's other buddy Roger Stone Hey, he must be bummed out that he's not in these big important conversations although You know he has the cannabis coalition for the true legalization of marijuana. And here's their latest commercial! In his historic victory in last year's election, Donald Trump courageously pledged to protect the access of millions of Americans to state-legalized medical marijuana. For medical purposes absolutely it's fine Now, Attorney General Jeff Sessions has proposed a crackdown on state legalized medical marijuana in violation of the president's pledge. Good people don't smoke marijuana! Join the United States Cannabis Coalition. Urge President Trump to keep his pledge I think medical should happen right? Don't we agree? I mean i think so Yeah but it's not It is not NOT happening Well uh... Attorney General Jeff Sessions has doubled down

1:37:30 He hasn't done anything yet though. He's a big talker. Yeah, he's talking. So here we go. This is from AP. President Donald Trump's top law enforcement official announced the change Thursday instead of the previous lenient federal enforcement policy Sessions new stance will instead let federal prosecutors where marijuana is legal decide how aggressively to enforce long-standing Federal law prohibiting it which is more talk I guess yeah doesn't really mean anything unless he's actually trying to get fired. I've always had this kind of subtle theory or secondary theory that sessions He's already got his retirement benefits from being a US senator and

1:38:22 Yeah. And giving him this job allows him to double dip so he can get a retirement benefit from being the Attorney General of the United States. Nice! So you have it made and I mean, he keeps doing stuff like this too He must know Trump's attitude about it and just because he doesn't think people nice people don't smoke pot under any circumstances They should all be in jail That's right lock me up It's like asking for trouble Lock me up It's very disappointing. That was good for trouble! It's disappointing, I don't want it. It's not disappointing if he is trying to get fired. Gotcha From his perspective Yep gotcha makes sense makes sense So uh notice i had something here...I did have a You're saying so well Yeah the one Trump- I got the Trump one last Trump this was brought up early in the progression of when they had

1:39:18 Kim Jong-un, my button's bigger than yours and then the book which kind of overshadowed that. And early on there was this but they've kind of dropped it from discussion but I want to bring it back in because apparently Monday or Tuesday he is going to do the Trump Awards. President Trump also went after the media today tweeting, Subjects will cover dishonesty and bad reporting in various categories from the fake news media. Stay tuned I mean this has got to be a it's gotta be this will be next week's news Will he have celebrities who are? Coming on stage to present these awards or is just gonna do him. He's gonna look at James Woods That's about Mike Cernovich

1:40:13 Oh yeah, Cernovich. James Woods and what's the comedian with no show? Oh uh Tim Miller Dennis Miller well that Dennis Miller too and then Tim the tool time guy who was that that guy right yeah that guy Yeah so they could get probably about 10 people that come on and give these awards maybe a country guy Taylor Swift she won't do it but He's the right person. Tim Allen, that's his name. Oh yeah Tim Allen definitely he should come out Yeah That would be great And Clint Eastwood? You got Clint he'll do something. Come out with a chair Yeah Do the chair thing again

1:40:54 Yeah, it would be very entertaining if they organized it right. But you know the funny thing is about Trump even though he worked in that apprentice job and you think a little bit more about show business or have some good producers directors that could help him... Well maybe... It never makes a good show of anything! Maybe he'll surprise and delight us I don't know? I doubt it. You're probably right. Probably gonna be lame. Yes going to be lame but it couldn't be great. But it will be funny for sure A little housekeeping. We had a donation on the previous show and although I think we did know it, we could not figure out the acronym MGTOW I have a clip to explain it.

1:41:53 There you go. MGTOW! Men going their own way. So this was in one of the donations somebody said make it out Yeah, someone says something about MGTOW and we didn't know what it was And this is part of the red pill movement men going to war Well The idea is that you also don't have to behave like a man and this is this is a big thing That is probably undervalued You know man up be like a man, you know that those kinds of terms

1:42:49 And there's a large group of men who don't want to have it anymore. They're tired... They don't wanna man up? I guess not, I guess not Is this like as mean that they're stronger than strongmen or the guys they're the men that... No they are checking out of the whole societal system Oh just checking out Of where men belong and how men are supposed to behave and they just don't want to do it anymore. They're tired of it How is that different from a hermit Not much the guy if you didn't even eat the guy was recording it in the woods Near a waterfall so yeah Maybe maybe that's what it is mig tau equals hermit. I don't know but Yeah, I can see some validity to Ted gazinsky was big. Oh yeah totally Utah

1:43:46 Unabombers go their own way. UGTA. We also discussed the war on gaming and the war on gaming or gamers specifically as we deconstructed in the previous episode, we believe is cropping up because the gamers and this goes back to Gamergate and these social justice warriors The gamers were also responsible for Donald Trump. So we have to get rid of them and just as an extra bonus, you know they're not watching television they're not getting our ads so something needs to be done about them and there was a recent swatting episode

1:44:27 This has come up for years now on the show where you and it is done often with gaming but also in other instances. Yeah, I have a did you have a clip because I have a clip Yeah, why don't we play your clip and I can go into my package. Do it! Was this swatting death? Yeah. The FBI in San Francisco is now speaking out about a prank among gamers known as SWATing one case recently turned deadly in Kansas The idea is get the SWAT team out trick the SWAT team the people who perpetrate this are looking for a tactical response Investigators believe 25-year old Tyler Barris called Wichita police from Los Angeles. He told investigators he had his mom and little brother at gunpoint when the SWAT team arrived, the victim 28 year old Andrew Fitch opened the door and was shot to death by officers And the FBI says that crimes often involve gamers who have their webcams rolling which means that the pranksters can then watch a live feed of the raids

1:45:27 That victim doesn't even realize that this is being done to them and they want to record this live stream as SWAT is coming into the house. They want to see armed officers, they want to see bomb dogs helicopters thats all part of the fun they see in this and that can be very devastating Yeah, that's a good background. It was similar to my setup I thought it was when you hear the NPR version of the story and I have three clips here three short clips You can tell where they're really going with this They really want to get these game...get the gamers Here is the NPR War on Gaming set up Well gamers are closely watching the case of Tyler Barris who was arrested in Los Angeles In connection with the shooting death of Andrew Finch in Wichita Kansas

1:46:14 Let's back up. Last week, someone made a phone call to Wichita's 911 to falsely report a shooting and hostage situation at home there called SWATing. The hope is lure the team to the address given. It's often used in online gaming to throw other gamers off. Then someone with the handle swatistic spoke on the YouTube channel Drama Alert and took responsibility for making the call but here's what he said about the resulting shooting. Yeah, the call was made by me but I As far as the whole incident, you could point the finger at numerous people.

1:46:50 You could point the finger at the cop who killed someone. You could point the finger at the guy who made the call, you can point a finger at the person who provided the address saying oh look this is where I live go ahead and swap me." By that he might have meant another gamer but not only did the caller lure the SWAT team to Andrew Finch's home after police shot and killed the 28 year old unarmed father because they thought he was reaching for a gun it was discovered that the caller had sent them to the wrong address Now, to me for NPR to put an unconfirmed YouTube statement on the air even though they kind of were couchy about it. It's like... it's not very journalistic but they're out to get the gamers and gamers are weird! Well according to other reporting a gamer told an interviewer on YouTube that a feud had developed between two gamers over $1.50 wager

1:47:42 and an accidental virtual killing. This is in the online game, and that prompted this swatting again as bad as it is made worse by a wrong address. And we're understanding that swatters can mask where they're calling from and make it look like a local call. What are gamers in Kansas saying? I think this has really struck home for a lot of gamers you hear about swatting happening to celebrities, you hear about swatting happening to people who live stream for a living. But you don't hear about swatting happening next door so for Kansas gamers in particular I think it's really helped them realize just that it can happen to anybody and how much you need to be careful with maintaining your offline privacy

1:48:25 Gamers have also said they're closely following what happens to Baris. One told me just yesterday that if Baris does get a misdemeanor or gets off free, that he expects swatting will increase. That's definitely something they fear and swatting is certainly something not condoned by the vast majority of gamers. Some regard it as a form of cheating or foul play so I think its really shaken the gaming community in the area So they're crazy. They're just crazy, that doing stuff for $1.50 wagers and we got to do something so let's bring in the big guns! Enter Catherine Clark. Do you remember her? Catherine Clark was she the lawyer in the Simpson case? No, it's Marsha Clark. Marsha Clark. I get the wrong name. She is a representative from... where she from?

1:49:23 Democrat, no doubt. Let me just check the book of knowledge for a moment. She is... What's her district? Connecticut! New Haven, Connecticut. Democrat. She was a big part of Gamergate as she identifies it, of course, as a social justice warrior And she was the one that, you know, told South by Southwest to get rid of your particular panels with certain people on it because they're all a member of these horribly misogynistic gamers in the whole Gamergate controversy. So we bring her in and I think you'll be hearing a lot more from her. That's horrific! Do have any idea? Why does this happen? Is it vengeance? Why are people doing this other people?

1:50:13 This came out of the online gaming world and was done so that they could watch the police response as people are watching each other play games online. So they can watch it live happen through the game that's happening live. Wow! Exactly, but now it is really being used outside of the gaming world in a more widespread way and it is extremely dangerous not only to the victims as we've seen play out so sadly in Wichita

1:50:49 but also for police who are making an armed response and don't know what they are going to find. Obviously, this is a terrible situation for Andrew Finch's family and for him but also for the officers involved who have looked like they made the best judgment they could but shot an innocent man and killed him So I'm pretty sure we're going to be hearing more from Miss Clark and more about the gamers, and I'm not quite sure what they're going to do. But it's going to be, I think a conversation equal to that of guns, but particularly for the 2018 election and the 2020 election. We need to get these gamers out of the picture or at least paint them as evil. I'm not gonna argue this theory of yours.

1:51:46 It makes some sense. I think it's kind of desperation because you have to go through these poor bastards, but... They also believe that $100,000 worth of Facebook ads threw the election so why not? You know there you go. Yeah the hundred thousand dollars worth of ads. I want to make just some comments about this swatting incident which is first of all why does Wichita Kansas have a swatting opera, SWAT opera, SWAT team What kind of terrorism goes on? What are we using SWAT teams for nowadays? How much terrorism is there in Wichita, Kansas that you need a SWAT team. I'm sure they got all the gear too—all those crazy military things that the government's given to all these little towns. That is one thing. How do you get to the local 911 number from Los Angeles?

1:52:40 I don't know that it's even possible. You could call the local police and just claim that its an emergency, you called the wrong number. I know how you can spoof a call so nobody can kind of figure out where your coming from but I do not know how to get into that system from there." What about if the cop walks in and shoots this guy? Well... These cops are like, well I don't care about this, oh its dangerous because he was worried about his life. These guys are covered with body armor! It's not as though the guy is naked walking in and saying, hey you're under arrest. He's covered with body armor! And they used to just kill your dog now they kill you? They killed a dog too if they can this is I think this is bringing up more issues than just the gamers and their issue and the stupid swatting thing The fact that there they can't even get the address right They got the wrong address They don't do any due diligence They've just come barreling in because somebody gave them an address Is that how it works are the cops that stupid

1:53:39 They're, uh... they're jumpy. You know? They don't know what to expect! I mean-I wasn't there it's hard to- Does anybody knock on the door and say come out with your hands up like they used to in the olden days?! Yeah i think the problem was he didn't put his hands up and then he put his hand down to reach near his belt and they shot him. Oh yeah immediately shoot him just shoot them And as I've said before, you have to shoot to kill. Now remember the report was the guy's gonna kill his wife and himself so they were jumpy! You can understand that. Very...the tactics are just off. Agreed agreed. If you're that jumpy turn the job over to somebody else this guy shouldn't have been shot dead that's what i'm trying no okay gotcha but uh that's not the point of the story

1:54:38 No, I know you got you that's why I wanted to wait for you finish. Yeah Well that was I was wrapping the point of the story is that this guy they're out to get the gamers not definitely out To get the gamers which is gonna be very funny because as you know half two countries a gamer nowadays all professional athletes are gamers Mm-hmm. I mean the race car drivers or gamers kids are gamers everybody's you know Not I don't so much but everybody I knows gotten some addiction to some game or other they're playing and They should take up knitting one fucking knitting a pantsuit Please it's all part of the pants pants pants suit nation pussyhat pants suit pussy hat nation PSP HN there was an interesting report That handled the topic we've talked about on the show called moral self-moral licensing and

1:55:37 And we talked about that in the... But you mean moral self-licensing? Moral self licensing, sorry. We talked about it in the context of the ice bucket challenge and there's a lot of science behind this. Science! Just believe it, you fools There's a lot of research behind this that goes kind of like this. If you do something, like changing your avatar or your icon on Twitter or saying Trump is an asshat orange wiener then you feel so good about yourself that you really are just turned into an asshole and don't do any other good things for people or any good things for society in general The National Bureau of Economic Research did a study

1:56:27 Boy between the two of us with the lozenges and the Tums man was a old old man podcast We're falling apart. This is working paper 24 169 Corporate social responsibility this was a big buzzword, right? All companies, especially Silicon Valley companies I would wager have a lot of CSR as it's known. Corporate social responsibility has become a cornerstone of modern business practice developing from a why in the 1960s to a must today! Early empirical evidence on both the demand and supply side has largely confirmed CSR efficacy

1:57:09 This paper combines theory with a large-scale natural field experiment to connect CSR to an important but often neglected behavior, employee misconduct and shirking. Shirking? What's shirking? Well, shirking technically means you know I'm not gonna do that later Shirking your responsibility. Shirking, let me just check shirking. Well let's look it up maybe it means something specific to employment Avoid or neglect a duty or responsibility Be unwilling to do something difficult evade dodge avoid sidestep shun skip miss etc Okay I think you had it spot-on there so because of corporate social responsibility

1:57:58 They can connect that to an important but often neglected behavior, employee misconduct and shirking. Through employing more than 3,000 workers we find that our usage of CSR increases employee misbehavior 20% more employees act detrimentally toward our firm by shirking on their primary job duty when we introduce CSR Complimentary treatment suggests that moral licensing is at work, in that the doing-good nature of CSR induces workers to misbehave on another dimension that hurts the firm. In this way our data highlight a potential dark cloud of CSR and serve to forewarn that such business practices should not be blindly applied." See I love stuff like this!

1:58:44 when people really think that something's gonna be really good and it's a policy or law or an executive order, or a tax change. And we really don't know what the outcome is going to be. And here you have it! We're trying to do good? What's the result? People turn into A-holes I find that fascinating Yeah, this kind of interesting as you see everywhere. What group is doing Moral self-licensing, you know the pussy hat is a good example. It's moral self licensing Yes, alls good now I wore that hat with the pussy head on so yeah Trump stanks and you go home and everything is good So you're extrapolating but yeah, it's exactly what's going on

1:59:35 is you think you do something good by putting on the pantsuit, You think you do something good by putting on the pussy hat and then you turn into a gigantic asshole. I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab On NO AGENDA! And people that aren't gigantic assholes are on this list. I will be naming them and these people are all good to go starting with Patrick Hopel or HOPEL, H-O-P-E-L in Durfield Wisconsin came in at $150. Archduke Nussbaum is back from Virginia Beach

2:00:17 Yeah, I should have had his jingle ready. I didn't realize he was gonna be here on the list Not really much of a jingle. I can do it Nussbaum! Pretty close? I prefer this one. Nussbaum You gotta admit came in one two three four five Yeah, that's good one. That's the best Stuart Morrison 100 see email okay? We'll look at later But it's not gonna get on now unless he has something maybe made night John Robineau Okay, now I'm gonna feel bad if they don't look it up. He should because it says see email exclamation mark

2:01:01 That's you know that's them. That's not this meaning something there yeah, Stuart Morrison Let me just go to the search engine on squirrel mail And he's actually written us a lot he's been Good with the show donation knows I was reading an article in the Origin of Hotmail. You saw one of my old Devorah Tech Telecommunications Excellence Awards, which by the way should reintroduce but I need a sponsor. The telecommunications award?

2:01:39 Award. What kind of, what kind of is this for a product or service? Generally for a product or something that's important that people didn't recognize before they put together these awards for it Who were the former recipients? Oh there was a bunch of them we did it about five to six years and I think there are always more than one or two. Things like Frame Relay, the inventor of Frame Relay You get the award and you come to come to get it, and you get to meet the guy who invented frame relay I mean jeez. I mean what more do you want in life? I'm hard as we speak And no that war is not Not running But it's not a bad idea to reintroduce it because it would be good publicity for us Who could we choose to win We gotta get a sponsor It'd have to be somebody big like Cisco Okay, well think about it Maybe we should update the whole award concept not be for telecommunications product

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2:08:44 ITM. ITM indeed! So let's go to the best story of the day. Been waiting for it you think can you identify looking at these stories here? Rats on a plane exactly I know you so well tonight a number of travelers are left stranded in Oakland after one of the most bizarre airline cancellations we have ever heard of KPIXY's Jackie Ward with the story of this stowaway rat Alaska Airlines flight 915 was supposed to take off at 9.37 a.m., but instead of heading to Portland, the plane was towed to a remote stand on the tarmac at Oakland International where the airline says exterminators have gone to work inside the Boeing 737

2:09:28 Earlier, as passengers were boarding at gate 10 the airline says a rat ran from the jetway and onto the plane. I thought it was a little comical way to start 2018 even though we'd really love to be on a plane right now headed home Matt Goff had a seat on that flight and took it upon himself to name the rat after the owner of the soon-to-be Las Vegas Raiders. Well I grew up in Oakland and Berkeley and grew up a Raiders fan. I had endured them leaving once before so I named the rat Mark Davis or another rat who wants to leave Oakland. Any passengers who had already gotten on board deplaned the airline says most of the 110 passengers were rebooked onto other flights tonight some are stuck until tomorrow the question that remains does Oakland Airport have a rat problem? You know I have to say Alaska staff we're kind and I can't really blame them for the rat so

2:10:22 I think everyone kind of felt the same way. The spokesperson for the Oakland Airport tells us that no, they do not have a rat problem here and as far as that plane is concerned that was involved in all this, Alaska Airlines tells us that has been taken out of service and it will stay that way until its been deemed rodent free by an exterminator at the Oakland airport Jackie Ward KPIX 5 Yeah? Couple things about this story when they get some passenger who starts rambling about Mark Davis and the Oakland Raiders leaving town. So he named, so he named the rat nobody cares what this guy thinks. He names the rat Mark Davis, he names it that and then they bring him back on for a second little stint where he talks about well they were nice to me and there's not that many rats on these planes. It was like

2:11:13 It's like, what is this reporter doing? He finds one guy who is talkative and he just lets him go. Well they weren't allowed to report on the real story of the airplane that was halfway to Tokyo and had to turn around so they gotta do an aviation story in Enter The Rat! Yeah The Rat. Something like that. And I think by the way when I hear stories like this and get this much play...I'm thinking industrial espionage And say maybe they bring a rat on board This plane John's is Rhett jump into the plane off from the tarmac bull crap. Yeah, maybe he took the jetway I think we should talk about Iran

2:12:02 Okay, and before we get into it. I do have a number of clips I want to remind everybody of the West Clark 7 So we can hear all the countries again that needed to be rubble eyes This was three weeks after 9-11 Wesley Clark He was then general Wesley Clarke was called in and where we're not sure where he was called in but in The I would say was the State Department White House maybe the Pentagon Pentagon And they said, and it was given a list. Then this is the countries we're growing after and here's the evergreen clip on The No Agenda Show So I came back to see him a few weeks later and by that time We were bombing in Afghanistan. I said are we still going to war with Iraq? He said oh it's worse than that he said he reached over on his desk picked up a piece of paper. He said

2:12:54 He said, I just got this down from upstairs meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today. And he said this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years starting with Iraq and then Syria Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan and finishing off Iran. And it's time! We're there It's time for Iran or as the elites like to say it Iran...Iran And we are behind this. I'm pretty convinced of that There's enough ample evidence, which I will give to you But first I want to go to another podcast of sorts the Ron Paul Liberty Liberty Report He had a guy on and we've played clips from him before not necessarily from a podcast Daniel McAdams

2:13:39 And he's stating the obvious, but it is worth listening to. It seems pretty obvious that the CIA or the US government are both fingerprints on this and that doesn't delegitimize the fact there are probably a few people in Iran who are unhappy about high prices, probably a few people in the U.S. unhappy about high prices We're supposed to believe that because the price of eggs increased in Iran, that people all of a sudden woke up one morning in a very carefully coordinated way and multiple cities decided to overthrow the government. Of course, that's what they told us in Syria then it was bread prices. Bread prices went up everyone went into the streets wanted overthrowing the government That is the narrative I try to pass and I think its little bit hard to digest particularly when as you point out

2:14:22 Trump and at least Obama tried to be a little circumspect in 2009 when he tried to overthrow the Iranian government. But Trump is just out there, you know? Hey people to the streets this is great overthrow of the government we're with you! You know and it's just so overt but you have a CIA chief who was virulently anti-Iran. You have a president who unfortunately one thing has been consistent on a everything else is his hatred to Iran. So I think if you put these few pieces together in the puzzle, you see a pretty clear picture of another U.S. regime change and they want to look everywhere else but internally it's Iran's fault it's other people's fault It's not the military-industrial complex which is playing us and destroying our economy

2:15:00 But you know no matter what happens these protests the one thing that's interesting is they're following such a familiar pattern They all broke out simultaneously. That's pretty interesting Everyone was upset about egg prices at the same time I guess they all woke up one morning and eggs were expensive, but the other thing is their rhetoric Is the same? The US is calling everyone peaceful protesters So no matter what they do, they're viewed as peaceful protesters. There have been a few people killed and at least from press reports They've been breaking into police stations breaking into military bases Trying to get guns blowing up police cars and those are the sorts of things that will get you killed in the u.s Actually a lot less Defying police officers will get you killed in the US so this isn't a particularly peaceful protest in that respect

2:15:43 But the result will be that the US has declared them peaceful, so no matter what they do there'll be peaceful protesters just like in Ukraine. Peaceful protesters and I think this is going to be used for a few things as a pretext for more U.S crackdown on Iran or sanctions on Iran it's a golden present for President Trump to tear up the nuclear deal, because he'll find some way to tie this into the nuclear deal—to tie that in and try to pressure the Russian-Iranian relationship. So no matter what the case, the outcome of this, it certainly is a benefit—these protests are a benefit to Trump and Trump's anti-Iran policy. Yeah. And here's some backup on that. The CIA established a new organization

2:16:30 focused exclusively on gathering and analyzing intelligence about Iran, which is intended to reflect the Trump administration's decision to make that country a higher priority target for American spies. And this is the Iran Mission Center. This was created in June. Wow! Yeah and this is not widely known I had one of our producers Michael is just killing it with some of the research And so this is, you know Pompeo is he's this new CIA head honcho and he hates Iran. It has been known for a long time So they've created that but it gets a little nuttier Do you know who they are? Then this is just from my research who they are using to create the havoc inside Iran No The MEK, the Mujahideen

2:17:33 The guys that we finance in Afghanistan? Yes, and from... this was in 2012. September 28th. Those guys love to take our money! Yes, September 28 2012 from Reuters the US State Department on Friday formally removed the Iranian dissident group Mujahedin Al-Khalq from its official list of terrorist organizations so they're no longer a terrorist organization Well, they never are when they're working for us. Of course not but that didn't turn out so well the last time it won't turn out well this time either now the talking points are You can identify them in fact here I have former This is a former Obama ambassador

2:18:18 Dennis Ross. One thing I would say about this is that you know one of the reasons you have great economic problems in Iran is not simply because there hasn't been investment from the outside it's also because about half of the GDP is basically taken up by the Revolutionary Guard and also by the religious charitable trusts And that creates an enormous distortion even if you could produce some of the investment from the outside. It's not going to fix their economic problem soon, so the frustration that exists is a function of structural problem right now and in fact one thing regime needs to do is begin think about how will it actually address that? So what I like about talking point as they grab the government and revolutionary guard. They're all corrupt

2:19:02 Then the sanctions went off and all these new jobs were created, but they were only for the insiders. Only for the Revolutionary Guard and for Rouhani and you know all of the guys on the inside circle They're also known as the muckety-mucks. The muckety-mucks, yes and that's a setup for regime change and involved in this is the NCRI, the National Council of Resistance of Iran keep your eye on this woman Miriam Rajavi. The Iranian people demand overthrow of their ruling religious dictatorship

2:19:41 It is their right to topple this repressive regime. And I emphasize, regime change in Iran is within reach." So we need regime change! I've heard of this woman Yeah? Oh yeah You'll be hearing a lot more from her for sure She shows up here and there Now we started with Wesley Clark so let's just stick with the neocons The biggest neocon we know is Bill Kristol And he's been very clear about his stance on Iran in the past and now he is appearing on television again everywhere. Yeah, let's talk about Iran! This was on... what's this? CNN? MSNBC, let me see. I think it was CNN, I believe

2:20:30 They had the panel, a quad box and here we go. People have been tremendously patient with the Rouhani government going out and re-electing him despite the fact that he hadn't really produced much economic benefits for them but now those expectations and that patience is running out and what causes this is because investments have not come in because there's uncertainty as to whether this nuclear deal will survive or not I think the root cause of this, Stephanie is that the Iranian people don't have freedom and they would like freedom. You can get upset about the very minimal sanctions President Trump put on the IRGC his policies not fundamentally affected anything and if companies don't want to help the IRGC, the ruling regime in Iran that's fine with me

2:21:15 Let's be more respectful of the Iranian people's desire for freedom. Well, we all do respect them. You've been arguing to bomb Iran for so long so I don't know if you're really respecting the Iranian people? You've been advocating killing Iranians! I don't think that you or the Trump administration have the credibility now say that you care about the Iranian people. It's not about me, it's not about me. Do you stand with the Iranian people? Do you stand with the Iranian people against... There is your little slogan I stand with the Iranian people You can just wait for it We are in agreement that they actually move towards a more democratic situation without killing them

2:21:52 Trita, Bill Kristol is not advocating to kill anyone. Let's make that very clear. No on the contrary there has been all of this argument for taking military action against Iran so instead of actually having this nuclear deal that has been working Think you'll also be on the lookout for the following phrase Iran is the leading sponsor of terrorism more well It's been going on forever. Yes, the world's leading sponsor of terrorism There was actually that as far he'd Zakan or Zakari without now some other sounds like it wasn't him there's a what was this? Put this maybe just a blog post I don't know where this is from but someone wrote this interesting article

2:22:33 Oh, the veteran intelligence professionals for sanity. There you go! The VIPs subject is Iran the world's leading sponsor of terrorism? And they debunk pretty well that Iran is just really no longer funding Hezbollah now they may be I don't know but it's a pretty good deconstruction that you take a look at in the show notes But now we need to have everybody come out and start talking about, you know telling the people of Iran let's go! Come on. Go go go go You can do it We don't have a color yet for this revolution but there's Bibi telling everybody to go I heard today Iran's president Rouhani's claim that Israel is behind the protests in Iran It's not only false it's laughable And unlike Rouhani I will not insult Iranian people They deserve better

2:23:29 Brave Iranians are pouring into the streets. They seek freedom, they seek justice, they seek the basic liberties that have been denied to them for decades. Iran's cruel regime wastes tens of billions of dollars spreading hate This money could have built schools and hospitals No wonder mothers and fathers are marching in the streets The regime is terrified of them –of their own people That's why they jail students That's why they ban social media But I'm sure that fear will not triumph Because the Iranian people are smart, they're sophisticated. They are proud. Today they risk everything for freedom. Sadly many European governments watch in silence as heroic young Iranians are beaten in the streets That's just not right and I for one will not stay silent This regime tries desperately to sow hate between us but they won't succeed

2:24:27 And when this regime finally falls, and one day it will, Iranians and Israelis will be great friends once again. I wish the Iranian people success in their noble quest for freedom." Yes! Go go go go! I just realized Bibi has a pretty good radio voice. He's got some... He has a good voice yeah. He's got some good pipes there So we have Trump tweeting We've got Bibi doing his little address there But, you know, Iran they've shut down Twitter. They're shut down social media You can't communicate but and this is where this really takes the cake when it comes to propaganda from the US government What outfit always? Reaches these countries one that we finance Voice of America voice of America guess who works at Voice of America these days who Greta Van Susteren

2:25:32 Oh, that's where she ended up. She got fired you know from... Yeah yeah she got fired but they tried to do MSNBC liberal stuff and couldn't pull it off Well I've always thought she was somehow related to the CIA so this doesn't surprise me Moreover that she sat down with an interview with the vice president and they just put it right out there. Well, a couple of issues number one is that the way the president has done it so far as by Twitter and the Iranian authorities government has shut down twitter telegram facebook instagram something social media into Iran is not reaching I realize that this interview will reach into into Iran because Voice America does reach their and so the President may not be reaching them second thing is that I suspect many people in Iran are

2:26:20 a little bit distressed with the president's immigration in terms of banning people from Iran from coming here to the United States. So I don't know how receptive the people are to Iran unless he reaches out more to them." Well, the repression by the regime and the Ayatollahs in Iran is not surprising. They continue to be a nation that denies basic human rights to their people and to be shutting down communication. But are they hearing from our government? I mean, if it's done by Twitter and not by... Is there another vehicle that the president has other than... Of course you're speaking out here today but is there another vehicle that the president intends to use? Senator Lindsey Graham suggested he addressed a nation for instance on this issue, our nation on it. The President again spoke out

2:27:12 on social media this morning directly to the people of Iran. But if they don't have social media, that's the problem? I can assure you whether it is the president or myself... Does Pence even listen?! No he has a message to deliver and that is what he will do It's like a robot. Yes Well, this is also a podcast it's his own station the government pays for Voice of America It is our own prop. It is art as you make some sound like a douchebag She keeps asking the same question over and over again. What if they can't get Twitter? He just said on Twitter he just tweeted it out So there is or read it on Twitter know they don't get it Hello They don't go then then he's gonna do is this guy is just not paying any attention to anything

2:27:54 Correct, because the only thing he's been programmed to do is say go Iranian people. Go go go go spoke out on social media this morning directly to the people of and by the way now You know why Greta gets fired everywhere Iran? But if they don't have social media that's the problem sure you that whether it's whether it's the president Whether it's myself whether it's our Secretary of State or Ambassador Nikki Haley we're gonna continue to send different from nine years ago a We're going to continue to send from the very outset of this effort on the streets of Iran an unambiguous message that the American people stand with freedom-loving people in Iran and around the world. And I think this is a very hopeful moment, my hope and really my prayer is that the people of Iran—a youthful population, a well educated population understand

2:28:48 The United States of America and the people of this country are their natural ally. We want to see them achieve a free and democratic future, we want to see them step away from a regime that continues to menace the world and threaten the world and threatened to develop nuclear weapons." I'm sure this interview went on like that. And what is he talking about? Ever since it was... when it was in the 50's that the CIA first got busy in Iran- In 56'? Something like that. Yeah, 56. Yeah That's during the heyday of the CIA when they were well able to do some stuff They can't do anymore a couple of things Get your browser get your edge browser and go to NATO bases No agenda notes calm for a good laugh if you want to see the NATO bases surrounding Iran NATO bases dot no agenda notes comm

2:29:49 And then also, it's good to see this map because then you see again Afghanistan. So you know how its borders on Iran and that's where your Mujahideen are hiding in the hills or whatever they're... Yeah pretty much except a northern or western Turkmenistan is kind of weak We need Turkmenistan and what's over there on the But that map doesn't show what country that is. Is that what's to the east? Moldovia or something, Moldova No, that's dumb hold on a second map of Iran Let me just see it's worth taking look at Azerbaijan Of course Azerbaijan and Georgia we don't have any well We have the Coast Guard in Georgia but we have nothing as Azerbaijan and that's kind of neutral territory That's like where all the aliens on Star Trek come together and deal oil

2:30:40 But we should have a base there. And do we have one in Turkmenistan? Yeah, yeah, there's one over by the... I think those are oil fields. Yes of course you want your base protecting the oil fields and the poppy fields! You don't want your bases out in the sticks when nothing is happening so that is a very good overview You know, how they are literally surrounded. But here's the problem and this is a problem that no agenda consulting group, the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group can't actually solve because they're not getting the traction you know? And they got everything right. They got the protest right. They've got guys on the inside to spur it on

2:31:29 But why is no one changing their icon? Why are women not, why is the pantsuit nation not standing up for the brave women of Iran. You need to kill some gays! You need to do something! Yeah we could come with a whole list. You gotta kill some gays you gotta cut somebody's head off...you gotta do something to get people talking about it and they're failing they're failing failing failing failing Yes they are Well, the CIA is supposed to be taking care of this. They're not doing a very good job. Well who was in charge of the propaganda ops? The PSYOPs It would be the Defense Department and the CIA! Well they're doing a piss poor job because this is not getting people talking And I'll tell you they are doing...I'm going to give an example how what a piss poor job that CIA is doing

2:32:15 You know, we always like to play that Lear Foundation how they're messing mucking up with our TV sitcoms and dropping storylines in. Yeah you want to... yeah play that again so this is a group run by Norman Lear or that goes out of its way to promote the pantsuit nation agenda into the media So in the course of our work, this is in two years 11 to 13 335 storylines that we worked on have been aired. We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years 91 different television shows There you go and that was what 10 years ago?

2:33:04 Yeah, and you know they're still going on. Now the thing that's been going on I have not started documenting this one but i'm gonna make it a regular feature because I catch it a lot and I'm not sure what the point of it is...I mean I know what the point of it isn't on a meta basis because people love stories where you got small government guys against big government bad guys yeah! But one other things that crops up a lot is anti-CIA dialogue in popular shows This is anti-CIA dialogue I caught on NCIS New Orleans. Won't just be your career in trouble? You're worried about your friend Someone should be, you know he put his neck out there for us And i appreciate it but CIA doesn't care about getting justice for those cops so we're gonna No matter the cost I get it son, I wouldn't ask anyone to be involved if it doesn't feel right, you should go home Yeah so they are hating on the CIA interesting

2:34:04 Yeah, and then they had some CIA blowhard a woman blonde woman look at it. Well like Valerie Plame Yes coming into the scene as she's stopping their investigations in time that we got more important things to do And she if she ends up getting stabbed in the back by the guys she's protecting As far as she dies. That's cool. It was very funny. Good, keep your eye on that. Keep your eye out for anti-CIA stuff. Yes I am going to be on the CIA lookout. And I don't know if you saw the tweet from one of our producers but you nailed it on the Bogative New York Times interview and that's probably why we're not hearing about it much anymore because I think the media has figured out what happened as well

2:34:45 This was the Mar-a-Lago interview. Right, the fake interview with his setup. The set up! So the setup was done by Chris Ruddy He's the CEO of Newsmax which is I think a conservative news outlet Red Flag Yeah well he tweeted At Real Donald Trump respects NYT's Mike Schmidt because he's fair Glad to connect them at Trump International so he was the guy Chris Ruddy of all people. Yeah, it was a total setup yeah beautiful. It's just they propped up that would be the end of it Yep, so you nailed that? That's what we do on this show that yeah We try we try let me see there is also What else happened well you're looking for something you can play I got a little ISO of Nick Haley I think this usable for anything We don't think we need to smile and take a picture

2:35:46 What was the context of this? It was just something to do with nothing. I mean, it was like somebody who's a North Korea vote and something we don't need to take a picture or some Southern phrase but the way I heard it was we don't need something about a band-aid and we don't need to smell Is that what she says? We don't think we need a band-aid and we don't think we need to smile and take a picture. Oh, smile! Smile! Smile! Yeah baby! I dunno which ISO to use at the end of this show... I think yeah baby is better. I think yeah baby is very good. I'm like yeah baby. Now, I tried to get a clip but it was unsuccessful because I saw Pooper yesterday By the way Holy moly crap

2:36:31 I brought no clips, but what is up with the news networks in particular CNN really and New Year's Eve? They were smoking dope. They were putting on gas masks with a bong attached to it. The female news hosts and Anderson Cooper What? Oh yeah. Because, oh California it's legal and they're all smoking a joint passing the bar. They are?! Yeah! On the air?? Yes!! You remember last year Don Lemon was hammered while everyone is drunk again but now they were high... But that's not the same as smoking a blunt on the air. A blunt. It was not a blunt. I just liked the name. It was a spliff. Not a blunt. A spliff. I smoke spliffs.

2:37:19 You don't smoke blunts? No, that's cultural appropriation my friend. That's racist! I'm not gonna smoke blunts. So there was that but that was the toss from home base which was Anderson Cooper with who is he who is the other guy um he's a gay guy Now I'm just trying to think. Well, anyway it turned into a gay fest but the thing was Anderson who was kind of a stoic per Andy Cohen that's who is Andy Cohen He's the guy that does the interviews with The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills That's all I know him from and any as I guess this show is pretty popular And so he in pooper there and pooper In I don't know if he's in a relationship But if he is yeah, he's the woman

2:38:12 Because he turned into a total fembot and it was I don't give a shit And it was no what you're doing is so far as the show's humorous concern. No, it was very entertaining But it really took away. Yes the word. I'm looking for yes It's a big word but it really Takes away from his authority as a serious post which is I've seen him I've seen him devolve like that on the air every once in a while during you. I think it happened during the elections or it's happened numerous times and it does, I think his authority diminishes greatly. Yeah, I don't even know why he doesn't. I don't either! I don't understand and with Kathy Griffin...I understood how that worked that dynamic And he could just be your outrageous your outrageous and just show a little bit of his gay side But here was really yeah

2:39:05 And was me I should get some clips. It was it was crazy. It just and not that it wasn't entertaining, but Why job is nothing his job? Not to entertain you by showing off his gay side Well why did he do why did they even let him do it? I'd like to know hmm the I would too anyway So where was I going with all that oh You were bitchin'. Yeah, but there was... About the New Years and all the smoking in the air. Okay and now I know. Anyway so on one of the serious pooper shows And I wish i had this clip he's like oh well The president has executive order has cancelled his voter fraud commission it was bogus to start with There is absolutely no evidence. And on and on. Take a time check Another one of those?

2:40:07 But it's only half of the story. In fact, it was very easy to debunk because I went… Yeah, yeah. To say that is half of the story. And I looked at the executive order, which is very curt by the authority vested in me as president by the Constitution laws. Section 1 executive order blah blah blah is hereby revoked and the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity is accordingly terminated and that's pretty much it." Then if you go to the next story on the whitehouse.gov website there's a statement by the press secretary on the Presidential Advisory Commission

2:40:49 Despite substantial evidence of voter fraud, many states have refused to provide the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity with basic information relevant to its inquiry. Rather than engage in an endless legal battle at taxpayer expense today President Donald J Trump signed an executive order to dissolve the commission and he's asked the Department of Homeland Security to review its initial findings and determine next courses of action very different from the way it is being presented There a few have mentioned this but I figured to just pull a clip from Hmm, this is how long ago? Months ago. President Trump calling out US states who are refusing to give his administration sensitive voter data for a Trump White House probe into his unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud in the 2016 election. Trump tweeting Saturday numerous states are refusing to give information to the very distinguished Voter Fraud Panel what are they trying to hide that panel

2:41:51 known as the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity sent a letter to all 50 states requesting voter information including names, the last four digits of social security numbers addresses birth dates political affiliation felony convictions and voting histories. Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe blasting the request this is an outrageous violation of citizens privacy rights we will not let Donald Trump And his white ring extremists use this as some covert plan to get data, to make it harder for people to vote. We won't stand for it." McAuliffe is joined by election officials in more than 20 red and blue states including New York, Mississippi Kentucky Indiana and Massachusetts who say they won't provide the data citing privacy concerns The data request came from Chris Coates

2:42:42 the commission's vice chair who also serves as Kansas Secretary of State. He is known for his hard line stance on tougher laws on immigration and voter identification, but even he may have trouble complying. Local media quoted Kobach as saying his own state of Kansas may not turn over social security numbers because they're not publicly available...even though he did not rule it out in the future And there was plenty of reporting on it at the time. Plenty of it! Yeah, and that's the reason he had to shut it down because they were just wasting time and money But the bias here is instead of saying okay, the facts are they asked for the data 44 states said no

2:43:28 So, Trump said let's not get into an endless legal battle. We'll hand everything over we have to DHS. Let them take a look at it. Let them take it from there for next steps as we work on that. That would indeed fall under their jurisdiction I guess and we don't want to charge the American taxpayer with endless bull crap in lawsuits. That's a little different story Yeah, there was no evidence. Trump shut down a bogus investigation. No evidence! I would know the choke of that blunt. Pass the spliff Don't smoke the blunt you racist it's not for you Okay just a couple quick stories love the story about Huma Abedin forwarding her secret passwords to her Yahoo account great great story and it was before Yahoo got hacked yeah

2:44:23 That was a good one. It's fantastic, you know I bet there's a lot of people who have a file that probably says passwords do not delete Did they mail around to themselves and put on computers so they have them? Yeah So that way when you're been, you know floating around and oh, I forgot the password what's for that? You know exactly Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, you have to write dead backwards or in pigeon English or something pigeon but What the word to get in the entry word? I only have two clips left. Okay, I mean I got a bunch of clips But I don't want to play them. I think we're running out of time Yeah We are so that Hartford Middle School had a poor teacher and I think is

2:45:10 Southern California, I'm not sure where this place is but it was in the local news Connecticut Hartford Connecticut no No It's like in San Jose says his name of the school. It's not the name of the town yeah and They got videos of this guy who apparently busted into a classroom and raped this teacher in her classroom I guess when the students were gone oh my and he's a big fat guy that walks real funny And he He reminds me, when you see this character because they have all these videos of him. He's like that guy in the first episode of Mindhunter. Oh! The criminal? Yeah the criminal big fat guy who kills and dismembers his victims. Yeah he has a little mustache it is the same with Guy.

2:45:54 So they go in and they're trying to identify this character who's probably going to be trouble down the road. But what got me was the kind of commentary that was put on Because this is a private school and so they've taken on all these liberal pantsuit nation kind of ways of expressing themselves. And I want to play, first of all the lean in comment. Oh hold on that wasn't prepared yes got it. Officials released a statement saying quote we are saddened and upset by this incident and are leaning into provide support and privacy to our employee and to each other well that sounds pretty lame

2:46:34 They're leaning in. How about a check? They're leaning in, what is it even mean Mimi Hershel? What does this even mean leaning in? It says based on the book Lean In from Sheryl Sandberg so now people are adopting it as I think its code we're a liberal school Now here's the other one this is the Hartford Middle School sad comment I'm just deeply deeply saddened with what transpired and that just makes me very very sad Now this is a woman they're interviewing. She looks right out of Portlandia and she's one of the parents, and she says she's saddened and saddened and saddened that's what makes her sad!

2:47:14 By the way, this is a good clip to play instead of the other ones. But you can play them all. You want one? Play this one again and listen... This is when you gotta imagine some Portlandia type woman she's looks ridiculous She just... She got horrible look on her face and she says something stupid like this I'm just deeply deeply saddened with what transpired And it makes me very very sad Oh! Again Pantsuit Nation Yeah but no one said for Iranian women pantsuit nation pantsuit pussy hat nation Well, that was thoroughly depressing. Yeah I was just taking it back to the basics So i'll depress us a little bit more and end with this story Ben there's an Associated Harper's Magazine article from 1975 in the show notes that goes with this note from Chris Sundberg one of our producers from Washington History of US homelessness

2:48:11 Then I and when I read this, I went ah yes of course because we've been talking about it where how did this happen? Where's a really all from what's going on there used to be these places called state hospitals where persons with mental and substance abuse problems could reside and be cared for in a humane way in the 70s The then social justice warriors decided these were bad places and needed to be closed. C1 flew over the cuckoo's nest It became a civil rights crusade to free these poor souls from their cruel confinement. It also became a Bogoff, buy one get one free for the politicians! They could be social justice warrior heroes for closing down these bad places and by closing down these bad places they also freed up hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on other stuff A few astute individuals warned that de-housing yes ironically de-housing these people would not work

2:49:11 Now, see attached commentary from Harper's Magazine 1975 written by Mark Vonnegut Kurt Vonnegut son who is now a doctor. Up until the recent housing affordability crisis i.e., the hollowing out of the U.S economy by the war machine and corporate kleptocrats most homeless people suffered from mental problems and or substance abuse now they are increasingly being joined by the regular slaves which created the opportunity for politicians to prosecute a new endless war The War Against Homelessness And I think he's spot on. So, it was totally spot-on! It is exactly what happened. Tell us about because you witnessed this. Here is the joke here to me the great irony of this is what we hear today

2:49:55 In California, they were up in arms a bit about which is the home of a lot of this stuff. About these places there was Agnew State Hospital and San Jose area, there's a mental hospital up in Napa Sonoma, there's a bunch of these places. A lot of them are completely shut down. A lot of them maintained high order of institutionalism for people that were really absolutely crazy or them or a lot of are locked up because it's they lock people up for crimes in these some of these places but It was Ronald Reagan When he was governor, he heard all this stuff that we had to get rid of these places So he you Nana just on his own shut them all down and released everybody Wow. Where did they go? what do you think they went through went into the streets Union Square and with the Union Square and

2:50:50 What Reagan did was he did exactly what all the social justice Democrats, the pantsuit nation of their era demanded. They demanded that they do this and he did it and he just did it! And now they blame him for it. Amazing Oh, if it wasn't for him. I've heard it and you hear around here If it wasn't for Ronald Reagan shutting down all the mental hospitals we wouldn't have these problems But everyone wanted at the time? They would want it that was demanded by them And they had everybody all worked up about it Yeah, I was probably on the same side. Oh yeah these places are terrible! How important was one flew over the cuckoo's nest at the time for that movement It was just confirmation That it was an evil place

2:51:36 I mean, Ken Kesey was a very famous local author. He moved to Oregon eventually and wrote a couple other books but he was the famous superstar novelist in the Bay Area part of the Mary Pranksters and LSD promoter And he's great writer if you read One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest it's actually very funny It's a very well written book And he was part of it. He was one of the guys demanding it, the book was a protest book. There's a pretty good... yes and this film came out in 1975 which is exactly this time exactly that year of this article Yeah it was an exerted effort like we're seeing today with different things that we exploit on this show when we discuss it

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