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00:00 There will be no boots on the ground. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. And it starts April 28th 2016 and time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 820! This is no agenda... The beat of the Dutch monarch at broadcasting live from the poop deck of the SS Plop in Amsterdam, the capital of Gitmo Nation Lowlands In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where everybody takes a plop at least once a day i am John C. Dvorak Crackpot and buzzkill! In the morning... Nah, you nailed it there. Good work. Good work. Alright John we could blow up at any minute I'm just letting you know Yeah that's okay We can restart it any minute Yeah but its this You know for days The- I've checked everything Was great The internet is fantastic I mean I set up the studio today Getting ready to do the show And of course all kinds of problems Of course So were on this houseboat

01:00 which is the SS Plop. Is it really? Yes, yes PLOP there's a famous cartoon gnome Cabal de Plop is his name and I guess they thought it was fun to name this boat after Cabal de Plop But of course outside of the Kabouter, the gnome, the cartoon figure everybody else in The Netherlands just like you at this moment think of a turd dropping into the toilet bowl. So that's the great part of it hands across the border plop so it has fantastic... It was advertised as having fantastic internet and it's not a cable modem its dedicated line

01:53 And that was true for most of our stack. I can see packets dropping from time to time as we speak, but even worse he's got some kind of a firewall there's a box is it's a box of firewall like oh God And, uh... you know it randomly strips out JavaScript things and CSS. It's horrible and the DNS misconfigurations And then as I'm setting everything up with you, I plug in my MIDI controller My little portable nano-cord control too And it seems to be sending rogue commands which was screwing up everything! Buttons would fire Things would play but you wouldn't hear them

02:38 Anyway, anyway. I'm here in Amsterdam! I'm glad Yeah and we arrived Tuesday? Tuesday mid-afternoon Went straight kind of into the pre festivities The evening Kings night I think they call it for King's Day which was yesterday on Wednesday And it was pretty sad. The night before, the night before they have parties until three in the morning just people drunk. Oh! It doesn't... normally it doesn't stop at 3 in the morning you kind of get started around 2 so three is just now you're just getting started. Celebration celebration. But it was raining and of course the whole country has a day off as Kings Day off on Wednesday but it was raining and there was wind and Tina and I

03:32 Exactly. So we, so we walked around and people are kind of slow to start just wasn't much happening outside although I will say the houseboat has a pretty much you live under decks and above deck half of this deck is an actual deck with chairs in the table little barbecue which is cute and the other half is kind of like You know just a cabin built around half of the ship and the kitchen is on one island But it's all glass all windows, and it's really fancy John because it has these Windows double glazed windows And then has a blind inside the window itself motorized have you ever seen this problem? I have yes those are used. I think a lot of those used to be using strip clubs Got a deal

04:21 So you can press the button and they go, vroot-vroot. They all change it so you can set it just so that people who really see you but you can see them and of course the water side you want to see as much as possible. You'd be sitting here maybe eating something in the kitchen and a guy walks up drunk pisses right against the boat right at the window It is really disgusting. Really bad. So run out and said, send yelled at him. No, no I didn't think it was a good idea now take this so you can really tell the country is kind of in this waiting room depression like state there's all kinds of yeah it is noticeable

05:12 When you have a King's Day celebration, people are really just happy. Now the weather was not cooperating so... You know I... People were less happy than they may have been but everybody has the day off we're looking at all the boats and usually these boats, these diesel kind of... Kind of sloops if you will anywhere from 20 to 50 people on each one and everyone is standing Everyone has their own DJ on board pounding music it's crazy It's very much like the Gay Pride Canal Day. But you can see... You have a gay pride canal day? Yeah, you know the gay pride day here in Amsterdam with all the colorful boats through the canals we've talked about I was here one year when we did this show and it was on the boat with Christina Wow B12 dude

06:04 So you could see the people were dancing. I felt it was noticeable, I really felt that typically there would be much more happy and really waving and though i'm sure the weather didn't help and it was a little bit cold but now the amount of alcohol they consume on these boats they don't feel any cold anyway I just, I could kind of yeah. I don't know. I felt it all day yesterday although it was nice you know and today it's like one big flea market everybody can sell their stuff. I saw a lot more... Right Well here's- I saw the differences with previous years and I've witnessed this ever since I was eight years old I think It was much more toys that kids were selling instead of books and, you know... I remember there were just decades of old radios and vinyl record players. So none of that is there anymore. Uh it's jus-it was just like plastic toys! If you walk by its just like blobs of plastic shit You know what I mean? And its like-its the moment to-I don't know maybe these kids dont have anything anymore. I dunno maybe its all in the iPhone Im not sure

07:08 And then services, services. Massage, shine your shoes, services that's not typical for Kings Day not that I recall you know some other nice services too yeah a euro to go pee and get a joint for a euro that's not bad it's a pretty good deal pee and get a joint Yeah, I can't really put my finger on it but of course that was really yesterday and so now we've been kind of through normal life and things are coming back to normal. I can get a vibe for it

07:46 But no, I don't know. It doesn't feel... The newspapers this morning very interesting to see you have the one populous newspaper, the Telegraf and one could say that the royal family has a lot of influence on that paper so they're kind of the number one in circulation. They've got pictures of the royal family And of course we all like the king and his hot queen, you know the Argentinian hottie. It's a beautiful family and we don't really care that everyone thinks they're all symbolic have no power fine. In in uh the opposing newspaper the Volkskrant which would be your socialist leftist newspaper I don't think there was one picture of Kingsday or The Royal Family. The front page was Donald Trump with a picture of him it just made him look like he had death warmed over

08:35 with his neck all stretched, you know one of those just shitty pictures. And the headline was Trump wants to go back to isolationism like... You know I heard his policy speech that wasn't my takeaway are you even here? Oh god hello oh can you hear me

09:13 I can hear you fine, you sound good. Okay i couldn't hear you and get ready to jump in and continue they had nothing of king's day they had a big picture of trump on the front page where it looked like death warmed over like with like a like the one of those fantastic photos that happened what like with the neck all stretched out and you can see blotchy and spotty and this hairline oh is just oh man was on the front page big and it said trump wants to go back to isolationism And I saw Trump's speech on foreign policy. That was not my takeaway! It was nobody's takeaway? Yeah, it was the Dutch leftist socialist newspaper and in fact hold on a second... I have from Euro News here somewhere an overview of exactly what the European takeaway is. Here it is. Very similar

10:06 Donald Trump has set out his plan for foreign policy if he becomes the next president of the United States. Fresh from a winning sweep of five Northeastern primaries, the Republican presidential hopeful expanded on proposals that have worried experts with their lack of detail. He will, he says put America first My foreign policy will always put the interests of the American people and American security above all else has to be first, has to be. That will be the foundation of every single decision that I will make." Trump delivered a withering critique of Barack Obama's international record describing it as leaving a legacy of weakness confusion and disarray. We went from mistakes in Iraq to Egypt to Libya to President Obama's line in the sand in Syria

11:02 Each of these actions have helped to throw the region into chaos and gave ISIS the space it needs to grow and prosper. Very bad." Despite the anti-Muslim tone of his campaign, Trump pledged to work closely with US allies in the Middle East to combat extremism from groups like ISIL. He also promised to improve relations with Russia and China So that's pretty much what everyone was saying over here. That was about it America first Trump is going to take America back America first, America first I'm sorry Well since you brought it up and there are three clips that I want to play Okay And one of them involves the game spot the spook Oh our favorite we still do not have a jingle for that unfortunately It is Jingle for Spot The Spook Maybe we do but I don't think we have

11:53 What is your a medley melody spot this booth everybody wants to spout the spook Okay, these are an actual clip called spot the spook No, no. Not too bad But there's this character I didn't realize...I saw him before he shows up He is an ex-ambassador and you should look him up and tell me if he looks like a spook Uh huh Guy's name is Nicholas Burns Nicholas Burns And he has been uh...he got number of earmarks and I'm starting to think that we should make a checklist for Spot the Spook Well what do we know about his background? We have to start first with did he go to Georgetown Hold on I am going there but of course

12:35 I'm not gonna go there because... No, no. I'll be glad if i can go there and keep the connection going today There is a Nicholas Burns actor now! How coincidental is that? Yes it's always good when you start off that way. Okay. Safari cannot connect to the server really okay here we go Professor, columnist lecturer former American diplomat Let's see, probably studied professor practice of diplomacy international politics at Harvard JF Kennedy School of Government. Education. Red flag! Oh Wellesley High School yes Wellesley that's where Don's kids went to. Studied broad in Luxembourg American Field Service Program graduated Boston College John Hopkins he speaks French Arabic Greek and English I think we have a winner

13:36 But there's some new little checklist things that I've picked up with him. He hates Trump and we've, I think... And I want to say this to the audience because our donations have been very poor and today was one of the worst. Yeah. What appears to be us supporting Trump, we're not supporting anybody. You really think that's why it is? I think that's part of it because you know these ways... But let's just say something. You said with us supporting Trump We don't support Trump That's what he said Yeah but that's not what- It could be interpreted differently

14:13 You said with us supporting Trump? No, I said they think we're supporting Trump. Okay because we are interpreting... We're taking news stories that happen to be against Trump and then debunking them. Well i'd rather be poor than beat I'd rather be right than poor. Or, I'd rather be poor and right...never mind! Whatever it is let's start with this character who can't...and there are some things that I like to do, I'm trying to figure out still and it's gonna take me a little while because they're starting to jockey for position the various networks CBS ABC NBC PBS all these groups, they're supporting one candidate or another and they can't really bring themselves at this point to support either candidate because they're both douchebags. Have you noticed how...you'll recall that we talked about Trump's new campaign guy coming in saying oh he's going to change his tune and everybody writes Trump is going to change his tune? And now it seems like they are all kind of a little pro-Trump and against Cruz!

15:11 Well, there's a lot of... I think there are some of that. There is a lot of people who have switched all of the sudden and it seems as though they're seeing the writing on their wall so they want to get on the right train for success But there are certain groups that are dead set against him and they want Hillary. Is this going to be your choices? Because Hillary is an international globalist. Yes, of course And the CIA I'm now convinced with listening to this guy The CIA is All against Trump. They're all in for Hillary because Hillary is still an internationalist, she's got a clue she's been read in I guess and they don't know... A lot of people I guess they don't care that the Clinton Foundation somehow has collected 500 billion dollars off the back of Haitians and others

15:57 And there's almost a, you know, 500 million and they're, you know the twosome are becoming billionaires almost. And that way I see it is they look at us as peanuts! Let her scam get our little scam going. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. The problem with Trump is he's kicking against very very holy homes and houses then angering a lot of elites They don't like it at all. Waleed is a Trump supporter who, and he's absolutely well spoken very... I think he was one of his informants no not informant what do you call it? Advisors! Well maybe the same thing, informant advisors So they were going off against this Nicholas Burns guy and then and I've seen Burns before and he just looks spooky to me and he's got all the earmarks but then I found a couple and assuming that he is

16:52 And he's just a plant because the CIA hates Trump and they don't want some guy in here who is gonna mess up whatever is going on out there that we don't know about because he's an idiot as far as they're concerned. They brought this guy onto Deacon, and I wanna play two of his comments, and then I want to jump into German analysis which I got from Deutsche Welle and it just contradicts everything this guy says but let's start with this. A scholar and terrorism expert who advises the Trump campaign Oh, he's a terrorism expert. Okay that's good. Nicholas Burns has been a top foreign policy advisor and diplomat for both Republican and Democratic presidents He is currently a visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University And we welcome both of you back to the program Ambassador Burns first we heard Donald Trump call the current American foreign policy a complete and total disaster What was your overall reaction to this speech?

17:49 Judy, I thought it was a very revealing speech about Donald Trump. And frankly as a citizen and voter, I think that it revealed that he doesn't have the qualities to be a commander-in-chief and our top diplomat if you think about the speech today It betrayed, I think, a lack of in depth knowledge A lack of sophistication and nuance about the very complex world we face and a lack of humility About the restraint that America sometimes has to apply in the world. Those were the qualities in my mind that our best Republican presidents of the last 50 years had Dwight D Eisenhower Ronald Reagan George HW Bush you saw very little that balance and restraint today instead What mr.. Trump did today was he cast a series of ultimatums and threats? Mainly against our allies against NATO and against Japan South Korea He was very soft

18:38 on Russia, I thought it was a very unwise speech. Waleed Fares, a lack of knowledge and a lack of humility? I would not pine on the lack of humility because that would be basically the position of his critics that's what how they perceive him. I will look at Mr Trumps new policy that he is proposing that it is something new as critics usually try to put him in a box That's very interesting Well, okay go ahead and give me your analysis. And I want to come back to what i saw on the face bag about this Okay there's a couple things with this guy with the Nicholas guy The other guy is making a point that This is going to be a pivot

19:18 in foreign policy, the way Trump gets elected. And that's not a big deal it's just a pivot and so why you getting so bent out of shape but although he was insulting saying the last 20-30 years has all been a failure which I don't know...I haven't seen any super successes. In fact even Hillary is saying that Obama didn't do a good job Yeah, nobody's done a good job. But here is the kicker when you listen carefully to this guy and if you're going to think that he is CIA guy and that what we are gonna assume because of his background even if you look at him he has got that look And he out on hit job this just verbal hit

19:57 When he mentioned the list, he ran through the list of Republicans. All these old all the Republicans and any names Eisenhower HW because HW is a big hero amongst these guys Reagan He goes in this all the Republican presidents that you know kind of a row leaving specifically leaving out Nixon Oh. Now, if you remember Family of Secrets... Yes, Russ Baker's novel on the No Agenda book list. He mentions that the CIA and Nixon was going to bust up the CIA. I'm sorry it wasn't a novel. It wasn't a novel! I'm sorry. Anyway he was... Nixon was going to bust off the CIA who is notorious for this and they went after him by setting up with his help because he wasn't the brightest guy about this

20:50 the Watergate thing. It's a very interesting section of the book and so this guy being operative, let's say he leaves just specifically leaves out Nixon who was with Kissinger in fact probably the most effective president we've ever had for foreign policy He is the one who opened up China right I'd say exactly and he specifically leaves him out of this list Well i think naive oh sorry I'm sorry, and i just thinking this is like kind of to me a giveaway. And he does another one in the next second half he also talked a little bit more after this and then well he came back and they just cut this all out and then...I just want play though this is the last part of his discussion

21:34 Part 2. I have no idea what he's talking about. He says, he invaded another country into... I think he referred to Crimea! Right but okay But that was a vote Yes thank you that was an annexation or yeah it was a vote? He says they didn't send innocent marching tanks and troops across the border No well they

22:19 At best, it was troops, rebels consultants advisors who were supported by Russia. Do you remember the Crimean thing was based on this vote? They set up this vote may have been a phony vote but everybody that lived in Crimea were Russian so the vote was a no brainer but... But now this is...but not..this lie that's the way he's framing isn't just not truthful. It's total lie! This is bullcrap and he's just... He's framing as therefore Donald Trump can handle Putin?! We're talking over each other. I'm sorry, what is Judy and Walid say to the guy about there's nothing no of course international politics He invaded another country and took over its territory There was nothing in the speech about that there was very little in the speech about Chinese assertiveness In East Asia And I think

23:04 Judy, the thing that bothered me the most about this speech is the lack of humility. Donald Trump castigated 35 years of American foreign policy—that includes George HW Bush and Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. We've had a number of successes over the last 35 years—some failures too—but to that we've been entirely unsuccessful for three decades is simply untrue. And I think it really means to me that he's out campaigning and he doesn't really have an in-depth sense of how the world works, and we need to have that confidence in a commander-in-chief. Hillary Clinton has those qualities but he surely does not." Oh man! This is insane

23:47 Ah, and why is it...oh. A couple of things I took away from this one is that the Putin thing is very much to the forefront. Hillary even though she did the uranium deal which nobody has brought up yet we'll have to talk about in the show sometime. We certainly had it in the show notes and I think we've mentioned at once But this Putin thing is part of the problem with Putin, is that he's not signed on with the... and it just sounds a little nutty but he has not signed on with the New World Order. He's not a globalist in that sense. He is not the guy who is going to be working with whatever this one world government is and I know it sounds nutty but thats the real thing going on with Putin because there is a distinct movement, you see it with Brexit and all of the rest of it and why they are going to lose, they're just gonna rig the election There is a movement to take over everything Oh well hold on can I just jump in here with a short little clip about the Brexit

24:47 Of course, there's a lot more news about it here. I've been paying as much attention as possible this PR move about the Brexit. Do you see what they brought in the OECD? The European Economic... The guys who always do all the numbers on everything and advise on all of them. What are they OECD? What did they do again? Hold on a second book of knowledge. What is the OECD? It's really not my day. The book of knowledge is down! OECD Wikipedia. Oh, it's not working... I'm actually stunned that you would bring that piece of crap with you. It is heavy Let me try one more time. Book of Knowledge, OECD Wikipedia

25:45 Alright, that's it. It needs to be rebooted you have to unplug it and plug it back in the dustbin yeah I might have to just jiggle the handle here is here's the latest PR stunt with the Brexit It completely intended to scare the citizens of the Gitmo Nation East into voting against leaving the European Union. That's just the headline! That's what I was talking about,

26:25 It was made by its chief, Angel Gurria at a lecture in London. Brexit would rather like a tax hit the well-being and the pockets of UK citizens unlike most taxes however this one will not finance the provision of public services or close the fiscal gap The brexit tax would be a pure debt weight loss Bam! The Brexit Tax Oh man These guys are good That's a good one. The Brexit tax. Well, now I understand that the Netherlands wants to do that, uh do it referendum on Brexit or not there'd be an exit. Oh no! An exit would be a duck...a dexit could do Dexit, Duxit, Nedzit, Neg-Negsit probably good

27:15 Yeah, of course they were. Let me finish this little segment with... This is Deutsche Welle's foreign affairs guy who was in Washington DC on the Deutsche Welle's foreign affairs guy kind of analyzing the exact same speech that this guy, Nicholas just tore apart as best he could even though it was pretty lame with some lies thrown in. All right let's pull in our Washington Bureau Chief Mio Dragsorich He watched that speech today and Mio I mean have to ask you what are your first impressions when you hear Donald Trump talk about the world and how he sees it?

27:52 Or my impression was, you know let's put it that way. My expectation was very low Donald Trump talking about foreign policy You know I thought about the wall that he wants to build along the border to Mexico so my expectation was very low But when i heard him talking today just a couple of blocks from here from our studio in Washington downtown Hey is this guy Dutch by any chance? I have no idea. It sounds a bit on the Dutch side. Washington, downtown... Poor him! He learned English from the Dutch guy I must say he has a plan, he has a vision. You and I may disagree or agree with him but there is a plan and bottom line is America's interest first so that means no more interventionism a la Clinton No more interventionism a la Bush. No more waste of taxpayers money And we're talking here about trillion... I didn't actually hear Trump say that per se. I heard him say

28:51 We're happy to protect you, but you have to pay us for it. That's what I heard." I didn't hear... I think that was the main thing about him thinking that and he talks a little bit about that But I think these guys this is all interpretive. You can just play Trump speech and take it from there Yeah exactly. But I'm just saying here we had the one guy Nicholas interpreted as a naive Lacking humility blah, blah, blah. Right? Yeah agree. I don't care what you know they're pulling from it the contrast is understood we are talking here about trillions of dollars for foreign wars that America and its allies cannot win so

29:31 One of the highlights was, I think that adversaries can become friends. And I think he was thinking about meaning probably Russia saying you know now we are not the best friend but this may change in the future so he's trying to reach out to Mr Putin and i think that's a good thing to do. There you go! Clearly Germany's the good, I think it's a good thing to do. Why should we have these guys who are loaded to the gills with arms you know making trouble for us and we could work with them before? Well we've seen President Obama also go on tour and say to remember when he was on his way was it South America? And said hey! Hey! Hey! No it was in Vienna or something did you oh you got a pony up yours money

30:26 Yeah, he did the same thing. But no one listened to him? Well nobody bothered to... Bring out the heavy hitters and start to condemn him on PBS. That's for sure right, right? Anyway I just thought that I didn't you know the speech was it I thought I didn't like it I didn't like him reading I don't think his reading skills are very good because he doesn't do it that much So he's reading off of a prompter cuz there made a big scene about prompt our right And like you know for that and I thought I didn't think he was that bad on the prompter. I just couldn't stand oh Oh, well it was so obvious he was on the prompter. I mean hello, completely different guy. It had a robotic style and it lacked energy and it was just... Yeah! He was a completely different guy that had zero energy and why don't know who chose the room? What the hell is up with the room?! Well this is another thing. The room was obviously not... If he'd given this same presentation in front of his normal audience they would have been going crazy

31:22 They would have been going crazy, but they put it in front. I think they were worried that they're gonna have too many protesters and because that's become a huge problem these guys just don't have to go in there and disrupt. It was like eight people were there like oh yeah! Smart clapping. A tepid applause very lame. Yeah. I did pick up a few other things I thought we're just funny that maybe more stuff that's playing over here That, yeah that's just getting attention. This has probably been played to death Trump about K6 eating? Did you see this?

32:02 I saw it, i didn't clip it. It was very funny...it's actually so visual that i didn't think it was a clippable but but it probably is funnier than not you have copy of yeah i do and it's been playing over here as why i caught him and i wasn't going to do it either but i just kept laughing at the end because he sounds like money he's using words that i've used too much towards my kid And he's saying it like a father, and it's funny. But at the same time if you look at the pictures of Kasich eating... He's right! You know me I have problems with the way people hold their utensils like you. You hold your fork incorrectly. Yeah, I don't hold it incorrectly. You do not hold it in the correct way according to Emily Post. And I don't eat with my fork upside down using my left hand either. No, I'm an American. I'm a switcher and I have one hand on my lap

32:55 When I'm eating. Ah, if you were in France you'd be considered to be a masturbator! Well, that's right. You have to have both hands on the table. What do you think I'm doing? Well, it's a problem here is Trump. Now you look at Kasich. I don't think he knows what did you say him? He has a news conference all the time when he's eating. I have never seen a human being eat in such a disgusting fashion. I've always telling my young son Baron, I'm saying and always with my kids, all of them, little bites small this guy takes a pancake and he's shoving in his mouth it's disgusting do you want that for your president? I don't think so. Honestly, it's disgusting! I'm not getting out I don't care I never saw

33:53 this big he's pushing it in with his i never saw a guy eat like this. I told my son he was watching, he said daddy look! I said don't watch. Little Bucks, little bucks. Don't watch. All right couple of things. Don't watch when K6- This all began when Kasich was doing New York and went to Katz's Deli Yes, yes. It's as though he has never eaten before or had any good food or whatever they serve up in Ohio I guess is bland because Katz's has a lot of it so he is drinking his soup and eating this huge one of those pastrami sandwiches He's going nuts! And I said this is crazy and then you wouldn't even take questions because he had his mouth full of food So I guess this continued or the news media finally caught on to it

34:44 And, uh... But I'm surprised somebody hasn't gone back and found those clips of Trump eating pizza with a knife and fork. No that wasn't Trump! That was Kasich as well! Doesn't this go back? I'm talking about before the election like maybe two or three years ago. Oh I don't know. Maybe it wasn't Trump. You know who eats like Kasich when you see the pictures in the video? Tina Turner eats like that. Well, I wouldn't know who would know this. Well okay you had I once had it went out with yes i had dinner with Tina Turner It was, this was back in my countdown days at Veronica Television. And I'm sure I've told this story before on the show it doesn't matter. At the time one of the big record retailers and it was still records... ...was a free record shop, a guy named Hans Brokhove married to this kind of semi-porno... Kind of like Patricia only porno

35:43 Wow, that's a there you go. Is that helpful? Hey Dutch news is that helpful And so because he was the most important retailer when Tina Turner came, she was performing and she was also on my show. I've been interviewing her but then they had this dinner or maybe it was a late afternoon lunch at this very exclusive club that he had rented out and gave her a big platinum record. You want to talk about guys who talk like they're the dutch right? But this is how he presented. This is how he presented this award. Yes, ladies and gentlemen it's very good to be here especially a very huge welcome to our guest of honor Tiny Turner! Very nice to have you. And we're all just like...

36:34 like mortified. I'm rigid in shock and but she plays it off and it was okay then, and I'm at her table and I'm across from her this is you know then I think someone of her like manager or tour manager one or two other people And the chicken comes out and she's not hello Tina Turner what am I going to do for you in this Mad Max? No all of a sudden She's Annie Mae Bullock With that both hands It was unbelievable Shocking! And when I see Kasich, Tina Turner or Tiny Turner. That's what I think of. Another Adam Curry story that will one day be in my book. Yeah it sounds like a good one. The only eating story I have that borderlines that is that when i was a student at Cal

37:24 There's a really good cafeteria there and I would eat there commonly. And it can't be as bad as now with the Asian population of the university being at least 50% or close to it, but they had most of these...there was a lot of Asians in the engineering schools and Chinese mostly, and they were shipped over for somehow they got into the company at that time is hard. Shipped over for packaging? They were shipped over to learn stuff. For assembly and packaging! And they were Chinese, they were not American-Chinese, they were Chinese nationals and they had different eating habits than the American-Chinese would. One of things was that I've always attributed this to...and I've heard this from other cultures, representatives of other culture say well it makes food taste better especially when the food is bland these Chinese because you'd never sit around them

38:15 Because they just ate with their mouth full and the food was flying every which way. So they take a big handful... They're very nasty eaters, the Chinese in general. Just generalizing. Just gotten rawr-rawr and the food was going out of their mouth And they slurped it It makes me want to throw up. Right? You would always see his Chinese kids sitting there across from the Yon's water tables and you would always go someplace else. Yeah, it was just isn't that interesting though how our cultures are so different but it can actually create like an anti-peristaltic motion of you wanting to vomit when you hear someone eat like that. That's bizarre!

38:54 And I wonder, and i'd like to know from our Asian listeners do they have the opposite when you see some American slob scarfing down a non-food containing product like a hamburger? A Big Mac. What do you think when you see some upper crust Brit take a Milky Way bar and cut it into pieces with a knife? Oh this has been really fun with Tina So I'm like, okay. First thing we have to do we have to have polfritjes. She's like polfritjes? Yeah okay and then polfritje is these little Dutch pancakes you ever had those they're about the size of a half dollar

39:32 Yeah, they're a little small. They're like we... yeah I don't know what they call them here. But now this is the Dutch thing it's poffertjes and they have a special you'll be doing it for 500 years and then they with powders sugar and everything and then I say oh and uh now you have to have some bitterballen. You've had bitterballen John? Bitterballen? No, I don't know what bitterballen is It's like the croquette, you know the croquette You know, the thing you pull out of the wall? Oh you know I may have had these things but don't remember telling me their name. It's a deep fried croquette essentially with a calf ragu So it is essentially a churro... I've never had a churro no No well you open it up and then you know then The texture is not really great. It's kind of between snot and sperm. It's really not good But it tastes fantastic

40:19 But it's been fun to torture her. And I said, look at the... Come on check out this... Look at the raw herring here we can get one of these raw herring with onions and i can see yeah so and just it's interesting just how culture can actually make you sick. The herring thing bothers me too So Denmark is where you get the best experience with this because that well okay you probably have a herring netball there Yes yes I have a herring bias Now, the herring that Americans tend to prefer is pickled herring in various forms which is very edible and tasty and it's just a fantastic product. They sell at Costco. The herrings that they have back there are usually oil-based so this horrible oily

41:04 product with the herring flavor infused in the oil and it's slimy. What are you talking about? What, what hair whose caring are you talking about? The Danish Herring Oh, the Danish yes okay. The Matjes is M-A-T-J-E-S or something I think How can they be happiest people on earth I don't see that they are. But they seem to love this herring, and I know the Dutch eat this herring and there's a...I saw some Dutch Holland page where how they hold the herring up in the air Yes! That's what I do by the tail and then you sloth it through the onions and of course it is not completely raw It has been insulted. And you go whoop whoop! And you clap like a seal afterwards and bark? No! but I will for you You know what's weird

41:53 I don't know if it's the motion of the boat or the weed. That is all. The weave? The weed! Oh, the weed?! I dunno if its the motion of the boat or the weed... Probably a combination. Alright So you eat the herring that way which is... and I'm talking about disgusting. I'm gonna teach Tina how to do it. I think she can do it She probably can do it. No but- I think anyone could do it whether she wants too or not Of course! Is this dude- the fish still has his head on right No, no no. No no no no no. Okay you chopped it all. It's been- no it's been chopped and its been gutted...it's uh..its just halved- not halved all the way, just sliced open so it's clean. Alright. We'll take a video! We'll take a video of me doing it okay? How about that? We need to move on Yeah I didn't even know what we were talking about until we got the food

42:47 The way people eat. Trump criticizing Casey. Through Tina Turner, my goodness from Tina Turner to called the Shaggy Dog. Raw herring. Yeah thank you well then let me pull one out quick you want a punchline? Yeah, punchline. Okay, punch line. Remember we had the new woman Sanders? She's on TV all the time. Nomiki Kunst. Nomiki is her name? So she's arguing it's not so much about the argument but she comes with this gem which I knew nothing well of course we know about this for years about the Hillary camp and what she does certainly when she was in government office

43:35 But I hadn't heard about this yet. Okay, with Dawson's comments? I don't think there is any sort of secret agenda here. I think that Bernie Sanders is very focused on campaigning and he's not always there for every speech. Now listen, I know Rosario and she's one of the most dedicated intelligent surrogates This was just some surrogate who talked about Monica Lewinsky It's not important what comes next is Activists in Hollywood out there She understands the issues The policies in depth but she understands the mechanics of Washington. She's the founder of Voto Latino, an organization that gets it... So why did she bring up Monica Lewinsky? Well look I'll explain that to you so Correct The Record which is an organization uh that supports Hillary Clinton in correcting the record on Hillary Clinton just put a million dollars more into and they publish this on their website they put a million dollars into to buy

44:23 trying internet trolls to attack Bernie Sanders supporters. I've been getting them, this is outrageous! They're trying to create their own propaganda campaign right now to take down Bernie Sanders supporters online. They press released this Yahoo dot com has written about this the Daily Beast has written about this This is what this campaign has come too they are trying to shame Bernie Sanders supporters into supporting Hillary Clinton And this is what we've been seeing, John. We've been seeing these emails as messaging like Bernie's numbers don't add up. Well you're right the memes. Sorry? The memes! Yeah the memes but now we know that this correcttherecord.org or I think it's correctrecord.org will of course have a private whois registration if you go to the website and pretty much all it has just were here to correct the record on everything wrong about Hillary

45:17 And it's entirely her operation. It's the techno experts, babe! Remember them? The techno experts? Oh yeah Here play this clip This is my only Sanders clip This is Sanders says Okay Sanders rejected the notion that he's helping Republicans by continuing to criticize his party's likely nominee. They don't need my speeches to talk about Hillary Clinton, they will go after Hillary Clinton in ways I have never ever gone after Hillary Clinton. Oh well it is true! Hello? Hold on a second, this is Hillary Clinton's techno experts what's this

46:02 Our next question comes from our Farsi feed at USA Dorf. Oh, that's when they were all sitting together and that's an oldie That's from 2012 man this is Victoria Nuland On the support dating back I think it's almost two years now It was one of those long clips i think we have a mix I'll just play the mix at the end let me see if this is it hold on yeah oh yeah This is the mix Yeah, and a show perfect forgotten all about the techno experts. Yeah the techno of experts It's fantastic so she's got them all back and then work well

46:43 the beginning of that Bernie clip, yeah. That was part of this smear campaign. Let's just play it again. Listen again sure Sanders rejected the notion that he is helping Republicans by continuing to criticize his party's likely nominee They don't need my speeches Yeah here this part speeches To talk about Hillary Clinton they will go after Hillary Clinton By The Way in ways I have never ever gone after Hillary Clinton. Yeah, it's the beginning part where she says that Bernie is being accused of this and that accusation comes from this group. Get out Bernie because you're ruining Hillary's chance... Yes! I wonder if this uh okay we need to figure out who some of these people are? It's correct record dot org let me just check correct yeah correct record dot org

47:44 And so it has, oh the complete guide to the Benghazi Select Committee blah blah blah. But about I think the whole About page only says... Let's see what's coming up here yeah. Correct The Record is a strategic research and rapid response team designed to defend Hillary Clinton from baseless attacks and that's it! But that's but it's not true they're designed Protect Hillary against all attacks. And most attacks aren't baseless! Well, it's only partially true. It doesn't matter whether it is true or not... Apparently she gave him a million bucks? Well, that money well spent. Exactly I agree, that is the way you have to play it If you're going to play hard You gotta play this and the Clintons are very good at this

48:40 Very, very good. It was kind of fun to watch the town hall that she did with Rachel Maddow at MSNBC and you know these things are so highly scripted that when someone yelled out a question—of course it didn't have the microphone—I have a feeling it was a question that MSNBC perhaps had scrapped or they wanted it phrased differently but Hillary certainly wanted it and this This may even been the impetus or the genesis of Trump responding to the woman's card. But it is also fun if you just listen very carefully how Rachel Maddow kind of says, oh this is not our format or something or just off topic or off for I don't know... It was well handled by her and well handled by Hillary which makes me think that this was a question MSNBC nicks didn't want and they got out there anyway. Canada has a new Prime Minister Justin Trudeau he promised

49:36 when he took office that he would have a cabinet that was 50% women. Right, and then he did it! He made good on his promise uh would we make that same pledge? And I'm cool with that but i mean is that the criteria isn't that exactly what the complaint is You're just saying I'm making it 50% whether the people are the best people or not? Isn't that then a valid complaint if someone says... It seems like, right. I agree with you it's bullcrap. Would you rather have the best people you can find and if you can find as many women as possible that would be good? Yeah! Just so you balance things a little bit. You could have 90% women for all I care.

50:18 Yeah, it could be all women. There's plenty of companies around that. In fact I think really the way i feel about these kinds of statements if Trudeau... Sexist! Well worse its anti-women If Justin Trudeau says Im gonna make half my cabinet women to me that doesn't sound like hes giving them an opportunity To me it sounds like he just limited them to 50% Oh, that's a good... yeah. Am I crazy? Am i crazy or maybe no No, you're right! I'm more pro-woman maybe than other people like women Women are you pro women and Hillary Clinton is gonna do exactly the same I promise you 50% women Wow what a jip ladies Well I am going to have a cabinet that looks like America and fifty percent of America Is woman Hold on hold on if it's gonna look like America

51:09 Let's make sure we get black, brown, red yellow, Jew gay lesbian transgendered It's limiting this. This is limiting, it's very- it's sad for women. I'm a woman and an idiot! I want to introduce you now to... What did she say? This is outside of our format but let me just rephrase the question. Oh did you hear Rachel go, this is outside of our format blah blah blah I'm gonna rephrase the question now. I'm sure she said something was going on here yeah So the question that she would listen to let me just rephrase the question for you. Let me roll it back a little further You can hear it was so odd this is an odd bit This is outside of our format, but let me just rephrase the question for y'all Let me tell me tell me if I get it right asking about women and families in family detention immigration detention I've been against it for a long time

52:11 time I've said we should end family detention, we should end private prisons and private detention centers. They are wrong! We should end raids and roundups and when i'm president... Raids in Round Ups? Where's this taking place Is that within immigration communities? And raids and roundups, and when I'm president we are going to get comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship. So we will end all of these problems at... And then i want to say something else We currently have a uh an immigration system that has a path to citizenship but we have this-I've done it twice

52:49 It's not broken. I don't know what the comprehensive reform will be, but it just everyone who says a path to citizenship makes it sound like that some big benefit big deal is already there five years green card do your test with colors the White House boom pay your $400 and you got a green card or marry somebody in goes little faster There's a path to citizenship After that's after you green card to your I'm sorry you green card to your citizenship. You're actual First year a resident and then you get it after five years, you become a citizen How would how is this a big thing? Did people not look at help me John? I don't understand this You're just the boat everyone else isn't this is all a smoke screen But people are sitting there applauding it they're idiots

53:48 I'm not plotting anything. They just love Hillary, these people. Let's talk about Hillary's concussion...I did have a note. Yeah you put something in the newsletter about some weird things going on. I also have tons of notes from producers who have...I'm just gonna bring these up as well...some more producers whose family members and it's a wide variety of theories about what she may have and what severity she may have. Well, one of our knights, a friend over in Oakland... We have two Oaklanders, Alan Dean it turns out to be one of them and he is a optician

54:33 And he didn't see anything peculiar about the glasses that Hillary had on although if you read that link That was in the newsletter. That's a great link It's probably the best one of the best things you can ever read if you want to read some conspiracy stuff That's about Hillary being some really bad habit or she had a stroke Yeah, and it was all outlined and they talked about wearing these glasses that were Fresnel lenses That because she was having she was seeing a lot of double and this apparently this specific pair pair of glasses would fix that. Beans just said they were regular glasses and he could even tell what the diopters were by looking at her eyeball and the glasses, I guess you can just kind of tell if you've been looking at these things long enough... And didn't think so much of the idea that this other guy had posited But it's very interesting and the only thing i'd say to him about this is that I have been watching Hillary since she was

55:28 the president's wife. I've never seen her wear glasses, ever and in fact if you look up if you do a google search for Hillary and glasses there are only these specific pictures Now, Bean says that everyone who wears contact lenses they get tired of them for a while or they fatigue the eyes. You gotta wear your glasses once in awhile but he says I don't know when i wear contacts you can go without glasses...I don't know but I'm not gonna have her vision problems whatever they are Why doesn't she just tell us what's going on? It could be MS it could be Parkinson's disease

56:08 In fact, here's a Clinton Bill Clinton talks about what's going on as far as he is concerned. Okay, I got it. Depending on how you answer it has to do with health but its about your wife's health. Karl Rove asked yesterday raised the question over the weekend I guess about whether Hillary Clinton is well enough to run for president in 2016 and whether, in fact she had suffered a brain injury. Dr. Rove wants to know as much as we do whether that's true and whether it will affect her decision-making? Well first of all I gotta give him credit you know that he did that embodies that old saying that consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds First they said she faked her concussion

56:52 And now they... This is always what they do. The Clintons always do this, go into all the crazy theories first and it's a very good trick if they're not afraid to laughingly talk about all the crazy theories instead of saying well people are crazy out there no make all the theories make them sound crazier and then come up with their answer. And now she's auditioning for a part on The Walking Dead I mean you know whatever it takes Look, she works out every week. She is strong. She's doing great as far as I can tell she's in better shape than I am. She certainly seems to have more stamina. Yeah hello stop right there! What kind of self-image does Bill have? It sounds like he's like i'm gonna just toss this big compliment toward her because i'm actually much healthier than her did you hear that?!

57:47 This is what you do. Husbands and wives do this sometimes, especially in a public setting. You say, ah, much better looking than me just like Obama says I'm married up Michelle's a lot smarter but really it's really being disingenuous and he really thinks he's better than Hillary And i hear that did you hear that when he said that or not? He's he you're exactly right. Yeah, he does think he's better than Hillary. Full of shit so which means she's really sick. About every week if she is strong She's doing great as far as I can tell she's in better shape than I am She certainly seems to have more stamina now As far as I can see she's certainly in better shape than I am this man is death on stilts This is not a compliment You know the funny thing when you watch him nowadays? He can't seem to close his mouth

58:38 He talks, he leaves his mouth kind of half open like he's gonna... He needs a drool cup. I've never heard that laugh before. Because it was one of the meanest things you've ever said? And I love it! I didn't even, I was sort of dumbfounded. They went to all this trouble to say that she had stayed so it was a terrible concussion that required six months of very serious work to get over. What? Something she never low-balled with the American people and they ever tried to pretend didn't happen Hold on

59:23 Wow. Did it really take her six months? Was she gone out, was she out of action for six months? I didn't hear that. Have you ever heard this before? I've never heard this before! She... He says that she hasn't tried to hide it and she tells the American public. I have never heard it. I've never heard it. That she was out for 6 months from a bump in her head. This is not right. And that's, y'know, sounds like she had a little aneurysm Well, this guy if you read that article again it was linked in the newsletter. The guy mentions that there are actually the Twitter people have a lot of

1:00:00 discussions about this. The most interesting one, according to some publication is the right-wing publication so you know kind of question it but it's and it's a little bit conspiratorial but I'll have to get the name of it but they claim that there was a secret mission and of course this has not been documented...a secret mission the State Department had on a small airplane to Iran Get some negotiations going about the... The nuclear? The centrifuges? Yeah, I think so. But they don't have any details but apparently on the way back the plane had trouble and it crashed!

1:00:43 Small planes crashed. So it crashed, killing a couple of her... at least one of her staffers who the guy was named as he was a military guy who is I guess his chief bodyguard at the time during this mission and she cracked her head she had a fracture fractured her skull And that's why she was out for six months. And this other guy, they've been trying to cover up his death because no one can really explain it. But why would they cover that up? I mean wasn't it... They were on a mission and they were trying to get something started but who...? It was a secret mission and he was off the books or something. He may have been off the books, I don't know.

1:01:21 Nobody, I mean this is bullshit. There's no proof of any of this but it's an interesting little piece- And what's the name of the guy who said he knows? Oh well wait a minute...I forgot! This actually stems from a report from Debka Yes, Tina asked me what is Debka? And I said what are you talking about she's I'm reading the newsletter debco Isn't that the isn't that the Russian age of spying was that who was Jewish Joe? It's an independent Israeli news agency and not a news agency spy spy Independent Spy Agency, and they do they have a blog or something. They have a big website just type in Debka

1:02:00 This is Debka. I have some news for you! Hey! Really, this is put on there? I'm a blogger from Debka! Hello it's me That's my Adele Your Adele is dynamite Wow okay this-this is uh...I want to hear this last bit of Bill now Do you have a link for me? I didn't get the link, the Debka links. So I want to put that in the show notes. Well, I gave...I was just putting the Debka stuff in as an aside because I want to look into it a little more. Wow! Especially the death of this one guy who they've been wondering when he came. Oh, he committed suicide is like what no he didn't The chat room's not impressed with the Debka weblog Whatever they're running Well, they should read it Okay hold on

1:02:48 Something she never lowballed with. Hold on, hold on... Low ball? Why does he say that? What does that even mean? All this trouble to say that she had staged what was a terrible concussion that required six months of very serious work to get over. It's something she never low-balled with the American people and they ever tried to pretend didn't happen Now they say she really got brain damage You think that she's fine? Oh, if she does then I must be in really tough shape because... She is still quicker than I am. My God! Another slam at the end! Bill Yeah Bill Everybody is quicker than you are Okay It's really slow Wow

1:03:29 So something's screwy about this whole thing. The chatroom, you can take or leave Devco I thought it was kind of bullshitty myself but something is up with the story It doesn't...it's not playing out correctly Bill's dropping these bombs like oh she was down and out over a concussion for six months I mean, there are people in the American football leagues or the NFL that get knocked out cold and they have horrible concussions. They have to quit the league but they're not out for six months! Well, they're also not 69 or 70. When that happened she was what? 66? That's a good point. But come over there and beat on your head a bit and see how you like it.

1:04:12 Hey, did Bill say at the very end there that he still said she has brain damage or they say she has brain damage? Hold on. I want to listen back to that chat room caught something. They went through all this trouble to say that she had stayed until it was a terrible concussion and required six months of very serious work to get over something she never lowballed with American people and never tried to pretend didn't happen Now they say she's really got brain damage. Oh, okay. If he does then I must be in real trouble. They say... Okay, they say. All right no big deal No catch You know what we should do just because we had a little rocky start We had some issues with connectivity But I feel right now like I would preferably thank you for your courage and saying the morning to you John C with us He stands for cup of drool Dvorak

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1:06:42 Donations aren't down because of Jews. What? What did he say, Jews?! I don't remember saying they were down because of Jews. He says donations aren't down because of Jews or boobs or taxes it's down because people producers are too busy arguing their MSM views back at you instead of listening and donating! Thank you very much well there you go and yeah...and you're right did you see that whole thing with one of our knights who by the way i know you know i know our knight You know, and I said hey man don't argue. Don't be like that if you have some information give it to us and he came around but how much work was that? Four or five emails? I'm surprised we haven't gotten more black about the Zika money People should go back and listen to your breakdown of the

1:07:33 requested money from the Obama... I think i may have a clip on this. It's 1.9 billion dollars. 1.9 billion for scam money if none of it goes to Zika and but meanwhile they, ah in fact I'll play the clip after I'm done with this there is only three people anyway so you'd like thank you for the best podcast in universe says Taylor Can I get a don't be a denier man overboard or and dr. Kiki shut up? Yeah, that's a cute guardians of reality no homo Love you mean it how about some karma? You've got karma Thank you so much Taylor a

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1:09:26 Yes. Is that an instant moneymaker? Yes, wow! Instant money maker but he says when you get rear-ended and this is not nothing I'm advising i'm just telling what this guy said any did well for himself over the years Don't, when you get rear-ended don't get out of the car just stay stiff in the car driver's seat. Yeah of course holding your neck. And say I need an ambulance and claim you need them right away. By the way i don't believe for a minute that Cameron did this but because it sounds like he got trouble but he said always good huge payouts anyway

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1:11:09 There's got to be some gags you can do with that. So if the wind shifts it always sends somebody else's name Have you seen the ones in Los Angeles? They do the dot matrix printing in the sky Yeah, no that's old technology I saw that probably... That's pretty good. 30 years ago they're called Skytypers Ah, Skytypers yeah Johnny QT in Monrovia, California. $200. He's our last associate executive producer I've been listening for about three months and greatly enjoy the show. I prefer to remain anonymous You can refer to me as Johnny QT Are you sure that's a q it looks like an o to me? It's an O. OT Hey John! I can't read it is it an o or a q Because I look forward to one day becoming Sir Johnny Oti. I wonder what it stands for? Give him some karma, I don't know... Yeah of course we'll give him some karma! Happy to do that anytime! You've got karma. Just don't know what the- I'm not in on the gag! Not in on the uh.. I'm not in on the gag either. The OT gang. I dunno maybe we missed something. Over time maybe? Could be could be could be Anyway thats all we got for our associate executive producers and executive producers for a show

1:12:11 820 and with the whole this was a very low donation. Yeah, in fact look at that even including the people that are donated $1 Which actually cost us money? A dollar cost us money. Actually I think we get about 50 cents of it now man PayPal It does cost, they all cost. I just want to look at it is what it is we've made our case this a value for value proposition these people who stepped up are executive producers and associate executive producers for the program well actually there's no executives that just the associates? No there was one executive. Oh Taylor was the associate you know and... And Taylor was the executive. And thats uh but also all programming goes through ups-and-downs

1:12:57 It's never easy for everybody, but it depends on the crew you're working with. I think they're blaming us for... No! I like-I like the point that instead of considering helping us and with information or finances They are arguing Thank you. It has taken a lot of time away from me too. Devorak dot org slash N A And even if we have nothing You can always be out there doing one thing Propagating the formula Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey citizens! Shut up! Shut up! Slaaaaaaayyyy Before we continue you mind if I read a couple of notes? Sure From our producers Okay is this one Is this a new segment? No no It's not John's Notes John's gonna read his email On the Noah Janda Show That's my Adele

1:14:02 In the morning, John I'm right this is from Craig and I'll leave the last names out who knows. I'm writing to you after my Euro trip with a report when going to Paris we got off on the train after going through the channel and were inundated by refugee women that asked if we spoke English Oh wow! The first time i said yes then she beamed and shoved her paper in my pants and said sign this I refused and walked on. This happened countless times whenever we went to a station or tourist attraction After the third day of this, I asked one woman what it was for and she said in a breathless anxious manner that it was for adoption ad She insisted I sign but walked off refusing If you're going to France Adam You should be able to find out more

1:14:56 he apparently didn't find out anything. Also in Paris there was a big protest going on one day but I couldn't find out for what when we were in Munich refugees would ask for money or try and sell you a selfie stick! I wonder how much does the selfie stick go for? I don't know. There was definitely a protest going on as the police were scrambling around, courting off the area but we didn't stick around to find out very sorry if this seems to be more like a stream of consciousness. No no but i've also heard that there's every night every day there's now starting in Paris you know protests pockets of people just protesting all over just saying hey we're sick and tired of it that i'm excited to see some of this It's not being covered

1:15:43 I know we had something in the show notes recently. We may not have even covered it, it's possible we just ran out of time but maybe I was just holding on...I'm hoping next week will be in Paris! I hope to learn more. I'm hoping there are riots! I want rain in Amsterdam and riots in Paris! Honey were on vacation! Alright All right. Any more notes or is that your note for now? I got another note, all right. I don't know why i was zoned out and this is from Anna Dear John and Adam, I cannot thank you enough for making the No Agenda show it barely keeps me sane here at Yale. Okay people here are ridiculous as a sophomore it's crazy to think I have two more years left among these climate obsessed sensitive immature peers

1:16:36 I still have not found any like-minded people to hold a normal conversation with. I feel like i always have to hold back my sense of humor and true opinions or else face being shamed for offending some group of people." Yes, there's never a day in this place where people aren't outraged about something completely insignificant here's one example the email we got today from President Slavon and as she sent a copy of the president it's like three pages of very small type apology for the recent incidences that took place and how they're going to change the name master and all these other things. I will put this in the next newsletter coming out on Saturday. It's actually a very good segue into a couple of... Let me finish, let me finish.

1:17:25 I've been meaning to email you guys for a while to first of all express my gratitude for what you do as well as apologize for not donating. You could take out a small subscription, it wouldn't hurt. Anyway, I promise I'll do so once i get a job and pay off my student loans." Okay well that's the show won't be in existence 15 years from now but okay uh...I appreciate the note seriously let me know if you would like to hear- Well maybe not as Curry Dvorak Let me know if you would like to hear some more of this absurdity in the future. Of course! Yes, yes we need a mole at Yale so that's your new job

1:18:03 Yeah, you know you don't hear a lot about yeah like the real Ivy League's haven't quite had the freak out yet have they we haven't heard at Stanford or Harvard well one of the hardwood school. We have the minor schools in the minor lab I have a couple of clips that this fits him perfectly yes you have more I thought this was over meanwhile I'll be studying for finals instead of discussing the heinousness of naming one of my new colleges for yet another rich old white guy with my classmates She's being sarcastic. Having a real major chemistry seems to, uh... There is no time for that anyway so she sends us nice note with the PDF of the president stuff and we appreciate that and we do- We would appreciate you not gonna be able to donate then you can give us inside scoop Yes particularly from Ivy League schools this is good I like this

1:18:53 There's a, let me see I have a clip. Two couple of clips first and it's spreading you know? Here is how I look at it It won't be Donald Trump that'll kill us It won't be Hillary Clinton It won't be ISIS It won't be Putin Its going to be the generation of children who are coming into the workforce The whole certainly United States Im not sure about the rest of the world yet im evaluating Europe We're not going to get anything done and the whole generation I am generalizing are pretty much full of crap. This is Mona Chalabi, now she's from Guardian so there you go yep this year millennial

1:19:41 And she takes great issue, and this has been going around. People have emailed me this as well about grammar snobs which people of course immediately email this article to me and I think to you as well... ...and I have the video that she cut that we-you and I are grammar snobs because we try to, y'know? Is it a grammar snob is not the correct word even just to be a snob about the grammarsnob moniker It's not just grammar, it's usage. I don't speak snob at all! Well listen to this...I'm sorry? I mean you should, Curry, this is how the language is...you don't let things deteriorate if you have a sense of dignity. Ah no no no ah no no no! You sir are on the wrong side of history! Grammar snobs are patronizing pretentious and just plain wrong put

1:20:28 Put grammar in front of the word snob and suddenly some people feel strangely proud. They shouldn't be! Most grammar snobs use an elite, increasingly outdated form of the English language And they think they're somehow superior because of it In most cases, mistakes being highlighted really don't matter at all If I look around the room and say there are less people here than I expected, does it really need to be pointed out that because people can be counted? I should have said there are fewer people here. So that's example number one. That's a very minor one but... No. What?!

1:21:06 I just don't see that being it. No, no, no! But she... It's not. She is getting into it but her conclusion is the opposite of your conclusion so you'll like it. Most of us use the words less and fewer interchangeably without much confusion. I've never been to a supermarket where shoppers are scratching their heads about the 10 items or less slang we get it some of these snobs believe that language evolves but grammar doesn't That's not true It was once considered incorrect to start a sentence with words like and or but. And what about the rule that the standard pronoun in writing should be he? There are grammar snobs who will say we need some sort of common language, a set of rules that everyone can understand But all too often they conveniently overlook the fact that the rules they're talking about aren't commonly held at all They're just their rules

1:21:53 Take the word literally for example. I literally don't care if i'm using the word literally in the correct way according to some Elizabethan definition of correctness and neither does The Oxford Dictionary They've updated their definition of the words that reflect modern usage It doesn't take much to see the power imbalance when it comes to grammar snobbery The people pointing out the mistakes are more likely to be older, wealthier, whiter or just plain academic than the people they're treating with condescension. All too often it's a way to silence people and that's particularly offensive when it's someone who might already be struggling to speak up We should spend more time listening to what others have to say and less focusing on the grammar what they say it with This is a very very loaded piece because it brings in ageism racism

1:22:40 bigotry, oppression. And somehow if I...I'll just take it upon myself if I mock someone and say hey man you said axed instead of asked then I am an old white a-hole. Part yeah. And I agree that language changes of course we have... Of course it does! Gay has meant several things as Many, many words. Why does that one pop to the top of my head? A movie titled The Gay Divorcee... I would assume that when people see that in a movie title they go oh some guy's married and he got divorced and became gay. Right so Mr. Dvorak as a professor of languages, I'm very curious what is your take on how do we evolve language? The literally example is quite

1:23:29 Quite an often discussed one. In fact, sometimes I use the word literally and the chat room explodes that i'm an a-hole but I don't know what I'm doing... literally It explodes. It literally explodes! Yeah, it doesn't literally explode because it can't. There's something that actually happens... But do you think- apparently the Oxford Dictionary that showed on the screen has now added a second meaning to literally which can say you kind of- not exactly literally but kinda literally So who determines the rules? If the Oxford dictionary puts in I'm good with that Okay so then is our set of rules then the Oxford? Pretty much

1:24:10 I would go along with the Merriam-Webster and the other dictionaries, especially if they're big ones. The Random House that giant thing, the unabridged... Any of these dictionaries if they see something and then say something... If you see a trend that's enough people are using it and put in the dictionary The impromptu, or they kind of been knighted. Okay you do this stupid phrase which you might think is stupid or not the Impromptur said the Impromptu Yeah I think it's that way to pronounce it? I don't know It's a great word hold on second where is the book of knowledge definition of impromptu The word imprimatur means formal and explicit approval

1:24:59 Yeah, formal approver. Well she pronounces it imprimatur. Okay I'll make that change. It's alright! Where do you think Donald Trump learned to say Tanzania from? He learned it from... what's her name? I don't even use her name anymore. And from the Amazon Echo What's her name? I don't know, Siri. Kelly! Kelly! Alexa that's what it was now I remember. That's where Trump gets all his foreign policy from. Uh... Alexa are the Jews to blame for everything?! Sorry i can't find the answer to the question I heard It works on Alexa too. But still works with Alexa? Huh

1:25:51 It still works with Alexa. Yeah, of course it does! It also works with Echo. You can't- unfortunately this is... Alright I'll tell you a little bit about the hack here's the bad news The bad news is you could set something else but you can't set one unless it's the standard ones so then becomes all three alright yeah that shit didn't want people to know that my hack was kind of good but not good enough anyway So, how does language evolve? How is...how does language evolve? It evolves naturally with the usage. People like to say something a certain way Right but when is it not a...when are you an asshole for correcting somebody what is the fine I want to grow I don't want to be seen as an old coot! I'm going to participate with the kids I want to be swag

1:26:34 I don't think most of the time it depends on how you present it. If you present yourself as an asshole correcting someone, then you're an asshole but we get lots of email about something that we said or did where we were corrected Yeah, you're right. It's all about the approach. You're right it's all about the approach in such a way that it's A very positive thing you guys are doing this wrong should be said or the pronunciation of Brisbane Yes Australia yes very nice That's true I have actually changed language in this country in The Netherlands two cases two cases if 1983 for

1:27:18 Um, we had a and I was working at the television station. The whole country would say Madonna when they're talking about Madonna when talking about Madonna singer. Yes. The singer went talking about that cause 84 days she was big and now I got on television and I started saying Madonna and people lost their shit. Now of course it was only two stations out the time from seven to 11 PM on Sunday night. You've got that same guy has been following you around all your life? Do you know how many people will yell it on the street at me? Hey, Curry! Madonna! To this day. To this day. To this day. To this day? To this day people say hey, I remember you man, Madonna! Just like that. That's fun. And also when they first started showing Dynasty

1:28:12 The announcer on TV in Dutch would say, now it's time for the next episode of Dynasty. I'm like, no it's Dynasty? No, it's Dynasty that's how you pronounce it. Okay listen does the guy say last time on Dynasty? No he says last time on Dynasty so if I don't get any credit for that one but I helped out too and I just corrected yeah I've just helped him along Yeah! You're doing your job Yes Now we have a an editor from Huffington Post About cultural appropriation. This is another thing we need to be on the lookout for John Yeah, where's been I think we're pretty good at this one What do you mean? Oh, yeah followed cultural appropriation We see people bitching and moaning about it Yeah, I mean but now it's Huffington Post with their little like cool videos They got their little millennial let's running around your work in those videos There's a lot of those videos were the guys doing little cartoons on the screen as fast

1:29:08 I hate those. Yeah, I don't like those. The first hundred thousand times they were kind of cool but then... Yeah the first two were good! It's almost like if that can do slideshows either? I can't. I won't do it but i wont do a slide show no I wont tab through your shit number seven is always the ad NO! Cultural appropriation, which some would say you would not have Beyonce without cultural appropriation. You would not have Madonna without cultural appropriations. Wouldn't it have Elvis Presley? You maybe wouldn't have Bill Clinton, the first black president!

1:29:50 Yeah, there you go. Now listen... A lot of people have been talking about cultural appropriation but what exactly is it? a quick search tells you the adoption or use of elements of one culture by members of a different culture But there is a blurred line between appreciation and appropriation like when you're jamming out in a Native American headdress just because it looks cool That's appropriation No, it's not! Do you got it? Oh yes It is that's appropriation no, it's not appropriation at all. It's just clowning No, that's appropriation. You are stealing someone else's... I think this is an issue right here and we should stop right now. Okay stop one second! I want to ask one question. Book of Knowledge? Definition of Appropriation

1:30:32 Appropriation has several meanings as a noun. One, money set aside as by a legislature for a specific purpose to incorporation by joining or uniting three, a deliberate act of acquisition of something often without the permission of the owner. Ah so interesting how that the lowest ranking meaning is well vicious lack That's usually not the lowest... it's kind of the lowest rank, but it's actually the most recent. Oh is that how it works? The lowest ranked as the most recent? Yeah, the most traditional definition So it went from integrating someone's culture like how we got jazz and how he got disco and how I got punk rock And yet we still integrate classical music into every piece We have the basic tenets that's cultural appropriation of Vienna yeah

1:31:26 And that's a better definition than the headdress. The guy wearing the headdress, that's ridicule! There's a big difference it seems to me between ridicule where you take somebody's culture and then you just ridicule it and appropriation where you take somebody's culture and then you move it into your culture and use it without credit doesn't make any difference because There's no credit given to classical music, that's for sure. Although I have to say that I listened to a long speech...I talk about it couple times on the show with Phil Spector at University of California gave a three-hour lecture. You were there for those? Yeah! Oh my god, that must've been fantastic. It was fantastic and then you get to talk him down in the bowels of Wheeler Auditorium shortly after because he was down there holding court but

1:32:18 His speech on the music industry, it was about the music industry. He overtly mentions and he does the bars and even plays kind of with his mouth plays that's The appropriation of various classical riffs uh-huh that he got from Rimsky Korsakov And here's something he stole from Beethoven and he told about all these different things that he incorporated in this big sound and his wall of sound. Yeah, I'm sorry you're right the wall of sound is like what's-his-name idiot was it that Cruz that comes up says oh we really like those basketball rings yeah even even that made the news here anyway so he had a wall of sound and then he talked about specific appropriations he says if your gonna steal you steal from the best as far as he was concerned but thats a little bit

1:33:10 And is classical music a culture? Is it, is it a culture? It was the culture of the Europeans in the 1800's. By the way from now on I pronounce today this very important day no longer may any millennial everywhere because I will police this and you'll start to police yourselves You may not dance anything by the village people those were cultural appropriation mofos particularly the Indian with the headdress No more dancing to YMCA Does anybody even play that anymore anywhere? It always gets played. At the end of the night, it's always don't stop belie- it's Village People YMCA and then you close off with Don't Stop Believin' and there are some girls crying and shit and then turn the lights on when everyone goes home I've done this a million times. ...by members of different cultures but... There is a blurred line between appreciation and appropriation Like when your jamming out in a Native American head dress just because it looks cool

1:34:08 That's appropriation. It happens in music... No, it's not! We know we just argued that whole thing Stick with it And movies and TV Oh and just a reminder blackface is never okay Black face is never okay What's that got to do with cultural appropriation? Nothing It has-it's not the definition Is it? No Although I will say, and i think this is now that you play this. I'm glad you did because it reminds me there's a play if your in New York you should go see Shuffle Off. Shuffle Off? Which is very... Darling after Paris we're going to New York! We have to see Shuffle Off John says its fabulous Yeah I think he got the voice there One of the themes of this musical is exactly that

1:35:00 Because the blacks were in blackface. It was very interesting, but the coolest thing wasn't Al Jolson who started that? The Jew he didn't start it I thought you used it yeah as a gimmick so would that be cultural appropriation or ridicule Well what's not definitely not ridicule what it was at the time there with these minstrel shows which those were the cultural Appropriations That's a classic to me a cultural appropriate appropriation. The minstrel show itself? Yes, the minstrel show itself that's one that logically makes sense to me yeah there was a bunch of black guys who did this show amongst black people and you're white guy and you steal the show right put on black face yeah and you do their show because those white folks weren't allowed to see their actual Black Show

1:35:50 And that to me is the only example I can think of. The rest of this was like incorporation, if you do incorporation okay? You have a black jazz artist and now your Benny Goodman...you're still playing with the black guys and also doing shows with them but there's a lot of riffs in their certain notes and there are certain things that these guys play In fact, there is mention of Benny Goodman stealing a bunch of notes from some black And when Prince or Jimi Hendrix rip off into some crazy guitar stuff, which Prince... Purple Rain he admits that he was heavily influenced by I think it was a Journey song. Yeah, I think even played the song to Shone. I think he played it and said hey I really was influenced I want to play this song to you everything was without lyrics He played over the phone because thats one of their ballads I forget what which one is

1:36:42 He said, are you gonna sue me? And I said no. Billy maybe was. He says it's great and I'm honored but is that appropriation? Reverse appropriation because...I am saying reverse appropriations. I know what it would indicate to me is that all appropriations from minorities the ruling subculture, stealing from the sub-cultures would be where the appropriation takes place. But if it went the other way around you wouldn't call it appropriation. Right okay well that's a general problem. I think its all... It's like racism! Reverse racism is racism and I'm so happy, I'm so proud of myself

1:37:26 To say you'll have 50% of the women in your administration, uh, 50% women is limiting towards women and you should be, you should be scolded for it. All right on to more appropriation. And neither is red face for that matter. Appropriations occurs when a privileged culture borrows from a marginalized one. Oh there it is! When a privileged culture... Did he say steals? Hold on. That matter. Appropriations occur when a privileged culture borrows from a marginalized- Oh borrows, borrows So what is it? That's appropriation. So that's wrong if you're a privileged culture, I think this again applies to minstrel shows but does not apply in the way they're trying to make it sound so you take a new black music form because the blacks are extremely American blacks. The American black community is very musical and they have a great history of creating new forms yeah so they created a new form and then their wives take it said this is great

1:36:42 He said, are you gonna sue me? And I said no. Billy maybe was. He says it's great and I'm honored but is that appropriation? Reverse appropriation because...I am saying reverse appropriations. I know what it would indicate to me is that all appropriations from minorities the ruling subculture, stealing from the sub-cultures would be where the appropriation takes place. But if it went the other way around you wouldn't call it appropriation. Right okay well that's a general problem. I think its all... It's like racism! Reverse racism is racism and I'm so happy, I'm so proud of myself

1:37:26 To say you'll have 50% of the women in your administration, uh, 50% women is limiting towards women and you should be, you should be scolded for it. All right on to more appropriation. And neither is red face for that matter. Appropriations occurs when a privileged culture borrows from a marginalized one. Oh there it is! When a privileged culture... Did he say steals? Hold on. That matter. Appropriations occur when a privileged culture borrows from a marginalized- Oh borrows, borrows So what is it? That's appropriation. So that's wrong if you're a privileged culture, I think this again applies to minstrel shows but does not apply in the way they're trying to make it sound so you take a new black music form because the blacks are extremely American blacks. The American black community is very musical and they have a great history of creating new forms yeah so they created a new form and then their wives take it said this is great

1:38:25 Let's use it and they start bringing it in. It's not borrowing because they keep it yet no one seems to be really mad at Eminem. Eminem is completely, you could say appropriated. They should be and by the way let me just say Bianchi I'm sorry Beyonce. You see Beyonce with her lemonade? Does anyone else notice that she's wearing a blonde wig as appropriation or not what is Yeah, but it's reverse appropriation. But it's cooler because she saying...but she is cooler because she's saying I'm oppressed Black Lives Matter but she's wearing a blonde wig in my head is gonna explode man let's listen to the rest of this. This isn't part of our cognitive dissonance well it's working and then add to this element this despicable Huffington Post video I mean how can you how can you in good conscience an editor allow this to pass through?

1:39:22 I think it's destructive too. I think it's really destructive because now, listen... I have to be worried about what I wear how do my hair? Because I'll be shamed for it. So a celebrity rocking cornrows when their hair really doesn't need it A celebrity wearing a blonde wig when her hair doesn't need it because she could be wearing cornrows is okay though. What? Who needs cornrows?! The word needed is what got me! Do you know anyone who needs cornrows- Oh my god, if I don't have cornrows then I don't know what I'm gonna do! Let me tell ya black hair is a bitch and yeah but it doesn't have to be cornrows You don't need cornrows It's a lot of work! It depends on what line of your work you're in

1:40:19 Okay, what line of work needs cornrows? Rapper. You don't need cornrows! Member of the Fugees I don't know enough about black hair. Black people complain about their hair. Tell us when you absolutely need Cornrows maybe that's a good question. I was saying you have to do any work Maybe that's possible man this is only a one-minute video and look at the controversy it has all yes, because it's bull crap It's a did the extreme of bullcrap And it's trending. Wow! I- uh, a tri- but this city is filled with tribal tattoos It's okay to have a tribal tattoo But not if you know what it means Now I've rarely come across...

1:41:12 And the waitress, good-looking woman comes over and she's got a tribal tattoo on it. I spotted it as such. It looked like you know just very simple thing. I said what? What's that? Where'd that come from or why do you wear...what does it mean is what I said I guess. Yeah yeah. She told me! She knew exactly what it meant It was a Maori thing of some sort, or dated back to such and such. If you talk to people about their tattoos nine times out of ten they will give you a long lecture about the tattoo You have to be careful if you don't want to hear the lecture but they know what they're doing. This is really, this is not good that this is being... You're right. It's trending and it's worrisome that people are buying into this crap. ...when they have no idea what the design actually means. Culture is more than just a cool style or new trend and doesn't matter if its just a Halloween costume because in case you didn't realize, he's a racist! Yeah be saying someone in their Mexican costume someone in Chinese person's costume That's all racist Well Halloween's blown

1:42:16 What can you be now? You're racist or misogynistic. Racist against ghosts I mean Halloween the dead Can girls still dress up as sexy sluts and nurses, or is that over now is that ruined now too? They can dress like that all year But you can still appreciate another culture by learning about other traditions trying an authentic cuisine Traveling to new countries. Oh, okay find try a new cuisine and learn about other cultures But don't you dare incorporate it into your own cooking following there? So what is fusion all about It's like one of the major cooking trend I think they have a great idea They use coconut water here in you know Hawaii for this dish And I'm gonna show you how you can do the same thing with beef. I think we're on to something We'll call it appropriation cuisine

1:43:03 Yeah, they must be banned. No no no! You should just call it appropriation cuisine and make a book. This is a cookbook. By the way I recommended some restaurants for you since your in Europe there's at least two or three of those places could be called appropriation cuisine because the French do that all living cuisines are always stealing from other cuisines because they're good ideas so what's wrong with that? What's wrong with a restaurant saying, well that's a good idea. I like the way the Japanese do that type of chicken. Okay let's just stop... Let's go back to this stemmed from a note from one of our listeners who said, but I can barely take it anymore because we have to be so politically correct can't hurt anybody's feelings you have to shut up and say anything. This is all apart of it. Well that's what the girl from Yale said! That's what I just

1:43:58 I said this comes from our note from the girl that you just read. This is this whole conversation and now we're down to changing food. You're referring to a different note? No, that notes be tough She's just upset because she can't even simple conversation with her classmates. I have been in...I don't like it! I have a clip here which i'm just going to play a bit of until you say stop This popped up on the NOAgenda face bag group Which was... Well, this is the group that was gonna get us all these donations. Oh God! I remind you Mimi was in charge of that so do you might want to back off on yelling about it? Or step it up. Step it up, I'll step it up

1:44:44 At the University of Massachusetts, there was by huge I guess exception invited to have a conversation was Milo. This is the conservative British guy who's overly gay and is just ripping everybody to shreds when it comes to political correctness nature you've seen this he was the guy who got unverified on Twitter Okay, yeah. Then there was this guy Steve Crowder right? I don't think i've ever heard of him and so they're doing a sit down you on stage and there's then there's a bunch of students in the audience, an auditorium... And then you know they start protesting and yelling and this Steve Crowden gets up, Crowder gets up and he just starts railing on them to such it was

1:45:35 The second time around wasn't quite as pleasurable as I was clipping it this morning, so uh...I'll just let it play and you tell me if you want to stop or not. He's yelling at the audience because they interrupted and started yelling check your privilege and all that kind of crap. Time to listen up you silly liberal fruitcakes! I came out here wanting to tell some jokes Let's do some reality checks here Do you have any idea sir how pathetic It must be to be you? People wanted to come out and have a good time hear a few jokes some thoughtful discussion but your head popped the pillow in the morning with, oh how can I be a professional victim today? Let me go and screw with their act just because oh my god your parents didn't tell you that your opinion wasn't worth that much. Look they're confused they're confused You know why cuz i'm not your gender studies professor who has to cater to your trigger warning microaggression safe space bullshit Do you like it? It's okay it's a little sounds of rehearsed

1:46:38 But, you know that's maybe what bothered me the second time around. But I'll put it in the show notes so people can listen to it. I think this guy is a comedian or he does this professionally or whatever. He writes rants but it was nice because actually he was just yelling at the children and they started pretty much cry like check your privilege and then just... The way to do it is you have to yell yell and don't stop talking thats how you... thats apparently how it works Yeah, I thought it was funny the first time and maybe seeing it is more important. But I agree, it sounded a bit harsh so he's rolling out lines that's what you do with hecklers you gotta have your stuff ready yeah You have to have your there are things in fact little insight

1:47:20 There are these stock put-down lines that all comedians use, and they get written along the way. And once...and these put down lines which are aimed at hecklers, the comedians have an unwritten rule that can be shared freely with anyone saying how you stole my joke. Oh! Do you have an example of a heckler line? One is when the hissing takes place to say oh I see somebody brought her inflatable date doll Okay, one of yeah. There's a there's a bunch of donkey jokes I didn't think that so-and-so Brad is just like there's probably about 50 of these of these lines that I don't know if they've been fully documented But they're they're freely used you know came through this morning You know they have the one of the terrorists from the From the Paris attacks when the Belgian guys would Abd Islam They have him in custody right?

1:48:18 Yeah, and he's the gay guy. The gay guy! Well exactly and there is no... it's in French so it has no good. So I don't have audio of it but he made a statement about his lawyer of this law made a statement in French newspaper Libération and there was little statement video He said, Abdus Salam is a perfect example of the grand theft auto generation who believe they live in a video game. I asked him if he had read the Quran which is what I did and he told me that he had read his interpretation on it on the internet for simple minds it's perfect, the net its maximum they can understand

1:49:03 The intelligence of an empty ashtray. He is abysmally vacuous." Vacuous? Vacuous, vacuous That's quite a testament. Am I being a grammar snob now? He added, it is not easy to take on his defense which brings me nothing but crap. Merde! I've been repeatedly assaulted verbally and physically two types even waited for me in front of my office and blows were exchanged but i can defend myself on several occasions the police had escorted by daughters to school poor lawyer that's terrible yeah But, so this guy he had read bits and bobs of the Islam online. That was his big... I mean if that's really true? If this is- A bitch it is! Now I'm really scared. I'm okay if its our own intelligence services doing it and blowing it up. I mean I have problems with it but that's one thing. If this truly is happening

1:50:03 And it's how far off is Abdus-Salaam from the appropriation kid? I don't think there's much difference. Exactly! There are all these things, but we haven't even seen any good examples... I mean, a lot of people would assume Trump comes from this kind of internet phenomenon or I think Hillary does more than Trump because she has done a really good job of using the tech experts to help her. Yes, yes, yeah right down to our email. Yeah anyway okay well that's depressing let's see if we can find something fun. Play this clip! This is just one of these out-of-the blue clips it comes in what? I have no idea what this is about I don't know I haven't found nothing heavy water sail

1:51:00 Oh, I actually saw a clip about this. The United States announced today that it is buying roughly 35 tons of so-called heavy water from Iran the liquid is used to make weapons grade plutonium and last year's nuclear deal calls for Iran to sell its excess stockpile Republican leaders in Congress today criticized the purchase as a dangerous precedent Yes, so I understood the same thing that this was part of the deal and And so they had to sell. I didn't know if we specifically had to buy it or not But I know one guy who does no ah Atomic Rod Adams he'll help us right? He'll get a comic rod should be old was your question about heavy water itself or were none I know about heavy waters used to make H bombs but

1:51:47 Why why are we buying these ton of just tonnage of this stuff? Yeah, maybe he's gonna have to explain it was that your idea of Happy news fun news. Was that yeah Okay, then play this play happy dance Who is that There is a guy, I think his name's Dave. He's the Dave Show on QVC. Oh nice! I was fascinated by this show because they were selling a Ninja Super Blender of some sort for $99 and they almost sold me on getting one.

1:52:35 Wow, wow QVC. Huh is that is that above or below? Is that a bubble of this character this character who does the cooking show and they should sell cooking stuff is a just kind of, he's like I don't know. He's almost like Robert Tilton the evangelist who is always scrunching up his face and for some reason it's hard to not listen to because you've got some hypnotic way of doing things this guy seems like one of these types of guys who are always doing weird stuff and I ended up watching the show for about 20 minutes before I realized that was being hypnotized. Wow

1:53:15 And I didn't buy the Ninja device, even though it looked like a great idea. The ninja device? Yeah some ninja... It's a chopper! It's like a blender. Oh okay. Very high-end blender. I have something that is funny. I thought it was hilarious actually in fact went through a little bit of editing just to spice it up a bit this happened in State Department and think it happened on um maybe last week no Thursday maybe Monday And Kirby's back, which makes it a lot more fun. Not just Kirby we have Matt. We have Matt's hottie from Russia from RT what's her name again? Hotty from Russia. Yeah yeah chin chin chin chin chin. Yeah Natasha Hotsky we got hurt. I'm rude because I just can't remember her name. It's hot. She's got an unpronounceable name. We will get it eventually. Natasha Huskey

1:54:10 But before I do that, I want to remind us about the concept of no boots on the ground which we have talked about on this program. We have...I think my main concern with the use of the phrase boots-on-the-ground is it diminishes the feet and legs and human body that are in the boots. And it's just not a nice way of talking about putting American men and women boys and girls into harm's way. It's fine I don't like it. And particularly for people who haven't been in military service, yeah boots on the ground! Why don't you get your fucking boots on the ground and we'll talk about it? How many times did we hear the president say no boots on the ground...in Syria? A hundred. Was is just the president or was everybody?

1:54:59 Now everybody, here's a little medley. It is not the authorization of another ground war. We are not, obviously contemplating returning we're not contemplating putting boots on the ground President Obama has been very clear that American combat troops are not going to be fighting in Iraq again He won't hold back from supporting capable partners in opportunistic attacks against ISIL or conducting such missions directly whether by strikes from the air or direct action on the ground Boots on the ground, boots on the ground there will be no boots on the ground

1:55:44 There is no doubt this was said hundreds, if not thousands of times. Now we have discussed also on this program what exactly does it mean boots on the ground because we've heard no boots on the ground in Iraq but they weren't boots on the ground they were advisors and consultants but then there were Delta Force but no boots on the ground it was clear And that was said, I just want to make sure that you agree. You have heard this many times, many more times than you just heard in that little montage. Thematically yes! This is a question from Matt to Rear Admiral Kirby

1:56:29 about yet another 250 troops being sent to Syria. There were 50 there, but that was just placeholder guys or whatever... we all kind of swallowed that But now there's another 250 going in and the question is when is it boots on the ground? And when is not boots on the ground And then something really amazing happens. It is not mission creep if it's the same mission, and it's the same mission. He introduced about 50 special operations forces on the ground they've had a positive impact on our ability to go after Daesh inside Syria so that as the president has decided to increase it to the tune of 250 and there was never this you know

1:57:14 know, there was never this no boots on the ground. I don't know where this keeps coming from. Well guess yes it wasn't. There was work what we're not going to be involved in a large scale combat mission on the ground that is what the president has long said We have three wait a minute Wait wait wait we have 3000 some odd troops in Iraq already, in advise and assist capacity at bases throughout the country. Don't tell me – don't tell them or their families that they're not on the ground. They are very much on the ground. QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR I'm not – it's not my – that's not — MR KIRBY But they are involved in large-scale conventional ground combat. QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR The point is for months and months and months that the mantra from the President and everyone else in the administration has been no boots on the ground, and now – MR KIRBY That is not true. QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR What?

1:57:59 It's true. No, it's not well I just flatly absolutely disagree with you because i've been speaking to this when I was in uniform for over two years okay your predecessor up here but you know all options are on the table except boots on the ground that was that that was... I never said that Well, that was the whole line from the president on down. Anyway are you saying that this is not the same thing as saying one thing and then doing the other completely? I'm absolutely rejecting that thesis yes Pretty good huh Holy crap! That guy's just lying You want some more it didn't stop

1:58:38 Doesn't he have a clue or is he oblivious? Maybe doesn't know. Maybe it's just stupid Well, check this out so then we get the... By the way that's Clip of The Day right there for me Oh that's uh thank you brother, that was kind of... It's hard to believe that a guy could just blatantly lie like, oh this never have never heard of such a thing. Well hell froze over because it got so desperate that Natasha Hatzky she asked the question a little differently and Kirby all of a sudden he's in love with her. He's the one who is like, you Russians, you do whatever propaganda... Did I characterize that right? Kind of how we talked to her? I think you nailed it! Okay Within 24 hours we have seen two headlines and one of them being President Obama rules out ground troops to Syria and there was-he told the BBC i can give you an exact quote And then shortly after president obama to deploy 250 more special forces troops

1:59:38 to Syria. My question is, what is the difference between the troops that the president ruled out and the troops that he's going to send to Syria? You know, that's actually an intelligent question. It's so... it also so denigrating by even saying it like wow stupid Ruski you actually came up with an intelligent question! He was that desperate. A descending prick yeah he was that... This is by the way talked about this before I'm gonna talk about it again we have a lot of Navy listeners But there is nothing, when I was in the air pollution game and you had to go on these board these Navy ships because they did none of the Navy guys gave a crap about our local pollution laws.

2:00:20 So you'd go on there and you'd give these guys a citation for blowing their tubes. This is before everything was nuclear. Blowing their tubes? They blow their tubes in the bay, boom! It's a big pile of soot and crap that goes into the atmosphere And it's illegal. It's fun though Sorry? It's fun I don't know about that. Dynamite! So you go on there and you bitch about these, you gotta say the guys are extremely arrogant they're so arrogant it's like outrageous and this Kirby exhibits these characteristics because i remember one of the guys that was a pollution inspector was as chief petty officer before he you know it was in the Navy for a long time and he would just have a broad smile when I was bitching about these guys He says aren't they the worst?

2:01:07 And that's some, this is a middle-level management of the US Navy has an arrogant prick quality and this Kirby is a perfect example. You know that's actually an intelligent question That's a good question and I appreciate that you asked it because its very relevant When we talk about boots on the ground, in the context that you have heard people in the administration speak to. We're talking about conventional large-scale ground troops that are designed to actually engage in plan coordinate integrate and engage in combat operations. Did you get that John? I'm so sad that we never understood that's what boots on the ground actually means it's a lot more than just some boots isn't it

2:01:54 Oh, apparently. Since you have now defined Boots on the Ground to us as this multiple units and coordination, planning front lines etc. Would you mind defining for us specifically what advising and consulting means?

2:02:38 Because that's the problem. We have too much word gaming going on here. ...in Syria for a while, we're adding another 250. That's very much in keeping with the mission— one of the core missions that the U.S. military was designed to do from the outset in the fight against Daesh—from the very outset and I know because I spoke about it myself in my prior life which was... See you in his prior life! in your previous career? And the colloquial meaning of the term, which is what makes... The colloquial? The colloquial meaning. What is that for morons? Is that the new when we put a new definition in Oxford? What does colloquial mean? Colloquial. It means... Common man Street chat chatter yeah kind of

2:03:42 Go on. All right, Matt doubled down on this in the final short clip. I totally agree with you. They are wearing boots and they're on the ground, but that doesn't mean that they are in large scale ground combat operations and I can't speak for every other administration official Matt but I can certainly speak for what i've said from this podium and the other podium.

2:04:40 You can't say that you're setting a red line on chemical weapons and then not act on the red line, and you can't say no boots on the ground and then send boots onto the ground and say that you're not doing the opposite of what you intended. I just don't... The mission set of these troops is very much consistent with the mission set of those who are on the floor. I mean, there's no point in arguing the boots on the ground rhetoric. It is absolutely no point and i'm not disputing the fact that we have troops on the ground and they're wearing boots. Douchebag! God unbelievable this guy...I'm sad that never made it to television or somewhere where people could see it because you know that is

2:05:20 The American people really do understand something. And when your president says no boots on the ground, when the Secretary of Defense has no boots on the ground, when the Secretary of State says no boots on the ground... Everybody was using this term, boots on the ground. Remember? Everyone was saying boots on the ground! Everybody! That's outrageous But again, it brings back to my anecdotes about these Navy guys, the officers at that level. They're just out of control! And by the way, what I was bitching about the most when I was telling my old story is that this ship was an oiler. This is like the lowest level of piece-of-crap equipment that they float around these oiler and The guy wasn't even a true captain He's like some lieutenant commander because he but he's the captain of this ship because it doesn't require the ships such a piece of crap Doesn't require a captain a real captain and the guy was as arrogant

2:06:21 I'm surprised when he gave him the ticket that he didn't just tear it up in front of me and throw it at me. Seriously! Well those are the same guys, isn't it the Navy that runs the NSA or they just call them admirals because its cool? I think maybe it's part of this whole mystique. That whole thing is disturbing, let me tell you! It's all this very... but this is your cognitive dissonance. This is your new speak. Boots on the ground doesn't actually mean boots on the ground. Red line doesn't actually mean red line. You know? Fear is freedom. Yeah play that clip yeah should do that what else do we have in there in the this is all this by the way is

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2:18:54 I mean we can make it kind of entertaining but it's not going to have half the stuff we talk about. We just can't talk about this stuff. You know what happened? Every time I open my mouth some sponsor will walk away and says you got to check your privilege, Curry! We can't be sponsoring you because of your cultural appropriation There ya go That's true Yeah In fact, I got one. Let me play this clip. All right? But I still have birthdays and nightings to do you want to the clip yeah Yeah, but just before the birthday. Okay. I wanna play this was one birthday one night Miserable lying these networks There's a whole thing now that you're gonna roll your eyes when I say this but hope so The big news in the United States is the big new way. I know what it is That football player left the midget

2:19:38 The football player left the midget on the live show, live with Kelly Ripa and Michael Strahan. Very strange show anyway she's like this Little fire dynamic Fireball. She's a former soap actress is she not yes? He was the soap opera star and Michael Strahan as a defensive end from the football team he's got it He talks with a lisp, but he's got a big gap to smile seems like a nice enough guy But I don't know how they got this job. He's got a great agent. He's always getting work doing something he quits that he get he's gonna quit the show is going to happen in the future then it turns out by the way after you hear this book at a rip-off clip that i have which has a punchline uh... he quits the show that day quiz just two weeks notice because apparently the two of them now can't get along together of course if they were and they were the showed their personalities together with the show yes so now they have to get somebody new guys

2:20:33 And who knows what they're going to get. But let's listen to her. She just comes back after walking off the show last week and staying out until they apologized to her for not telling her that Strahan was gonna leave the show, and then she comes up with this bull crap you have to listen to it. Of course, her fans think it's fantastic but I...what I hear is something different The fire, though over the course of a few days has been extraordinary in the sense that it started a much greater conversation about communication and consideration. And most importantly respect in the workplace.

2:21:17 consider this just a workplace. This is my second home, this is the place that I've devoted myself to not just because of you our loyal viewers but because of all of the producers and the crew who work on this show we have an incredible team! We are incredibly devoted to one another, we are family apologies have been made And the best thing to come out of all of this, you guys is that our parent company has assured me that live is a priority. Sierra Hotel? Sierra Mike Hotel! Is what I say. Man... This is our priority sure it is. Hello unemployment How do we get rid of this woman let's find way to fire her

2:22:10 She will also have to say is one thing, one thing and the show's gone. This was the Regis and Kelly show? No yeah it was a Regis and... Yeah because it was no what's her name from those Cathy Lee yeah Cathy Lee I don't want to talk about it you're right It's stupid but the fact that she says they now and she buys she buys into this this is show business darling You're dead! You're over your gone It'll be done, yeah. Oh my... But this is the kind of thing we'd be dealing with if we were doing anything but this show Exactly! And then you know, you would get offered the better gig on The Today Show You know with Savannah and what do I get? I gotta go hang out and do like The Voice I get to do The Voice with Carson Daly Now that would be very pissed off too Yeah well she's pissed off

2:23:06 Alright, so the point is if you don't want us to be in that situation and quite honestly I'd rather be poor. And I won't do it. MTV's playing music again! I get the tweet. Hey would you go back if they offered a lot of money? It was like no, I'm completely incompatible You know that's not what I asked No, NO! I can't even do it...I couldn't even The one thing we did for iTunes got so corporate and crazy just because one logo to promote the show 800 episodes. It took weeks. That was painful! And like no, I'm incompatible with this. Once a genie is out of the bottle it can't get back in

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2:26:05 I said you should they should have heard the pre-show and all the trouble you had to go through. And then now it turns out, you were doing this over an Apple? I'm doing this over the iPhone it's going to cost me...I don't think this can be the 2 1⁄2 G. I can't be streaming and having you on this connection It's gonna cost ya! It'll cost a fortune for what you're doing Yeah, I think it must be tapping into my head like I think 20 gigs of high speed data. I hope that's what it is tapping into, it doesn't matter the show was the show. I don't care. One of those little devices like you have a little portable recorder? No, that little bitty thing, its like the Jetstream from Verizon or... Oh yeah, the MiFi!

2:26:53 Yeah, it's a little... you have the MiFi. And anyway I got this and had it in New York because I was always paranoid about not having good connection to the hotel and then I had a good connection that never uses but it came into so handy Mimi uses it because every once in awhile she'll lose her internet connection for even five minutes God knows that's going to ruin her life because she's on Facebook And so she needs to get online, so she uses... Now she's got the device. I have to say those are great little devices once you get them hooked up. Well i have one! When we're in the air stream of consciousness I use it all the time but you do not want to take Verizon data overseas uh-uh that is... You'll go broke. It can't be done they had no regular plan. Yeah, because there was CMA over there anyway No it works here. They do have that

2:27:41 Yeah, they do. There's a UK I got a UK travel to travel advisory people should pay attention to the UK Travel Advisory Let's have a listen Britain's issued a formal travel warning to LGBT travelers leading to Mississippi and North Carolina following the passage of anti-LGBT laws in the two states This comes as a handful of other US states are considering similar legislation There you go stay away Where was everybody? Where was all the protests, where was who's protested so far. Demi Lovato has protested. Who is the other? Was it Nickelback they protesting when were they when these states were turning down Medicaid and doing all horrible things you know did when the bathroom issue comes up. Oh yeah bathrooms are important

2:28:41 Okay, I have a clip. And then and i think that if you went back and look somewhere in the book of knowledge John, I think If you go back and you look to 2008-2009, I think we had conversations We said if you want to win any kind of debate Any kind of election You gotta bring gay into it! And then slowly we got not just gay That was your theory by the way I signed on. Could you find, not today obviously but if you run across one of the older books and we were very clear i think about what specific instances...I'd like to know what we talked about because it seems like so much stuff in these books that can't find anything really? I mean I got an old one right in front of me

2:29:24 Well, you don't have to do that. You don't have to do that now give me a couple of quips I have the German airline strike because of course that's... Ah! I have the German airline strike you want to just play mine or yours? Labor unions in Germany are flexing their muscles again to the dismay of airline passengers 90 000 of them were stranded at airports on Wednesday as workers in safety control ground services or check-in counters walked off their jobs out of contract negotiations. Germany's biggest services sector union is demanding a 6% pay rise, todays action was only a warning strike so there may be more to come The strikes have hit the Munich and Frankfurt airports the hardest. Germany's flagship carrier Lufthansa alone already cancelled nearly 900 flights with 87,000 passengers. The strikers want to see a 6 percent salary increase. Germany's largest workers' union Verdi has already turned down an offer of a 3 percent wage hike paid out over two years. It says that is not even close to what they want.

2:30:22 Yeah, never been so high. What I think is, I'm seeing Germany fall apart. People are tired of the Energiewende mess up a lot. They're tired of... they have some austerity issues as well that we've been dealing with. I think they're tired and these unions man, the German unions, not to be messed with and this is just trial. Yeah they must look fondly upon the United States which has nothing but a weak union system except for the Teamsters Who knows? Let's see

2:31:23 Yes, Austria. I'm just doing two little quick European nuggets here. The Austrian parliament has passed controversial new legislation restricting the right to asylum It would allow the government to declare a state of emergency and clamp down on new claims Some say the vote has a political aspect coming just days after a far-right party won the first round of the country's presidential election. Others, though, think it is in response to a predicted surge of migrants through the Brenner Pass. Austria is reportedly considering building a fence here at the main border crossing with Italy. The Brenner Pass is the busiest route through the Alps

2:30:22 Yeah, never been so high. What I think is, I'm seeing Germany fall apart. People are tired of the Energiewende mess up a lot. They're tired of... they have some austerity issues as well that we've been dealing with. I think they're tired and these unions man, the German unions, not to be messed with and this is just trial. Yeah they must look fondly upon the United States which has nothing but a weak union system except for the Teamsters Who knows? Let's see

2:31:23 Yes, Austria. I'm just doing two little quick European nuggets here. The Austrian parliament has passed controversial new legislation restricting the right to asylum It would allow the government to declare a state of emergency and clamp down on new claims Some say the vote has a political aspect coming just days after a far-right party won the first round of the country's presidential election. Others, though, think it is in response to a predicted surge of migrants through the Brenner Pass. Austria is reportedly considering building a fence here at the main border crossing with Italy. The Brenner Pass is the busiest route through the Alps

2:31:59 It's Italy's main transport link to Germany, its top trading partner. Controls will slow down traffic and could impact on trade Prime Minister Matteo Renzi says the plans are against European rules history logic and the future Tension has already fled at the Alpine border there were scuffles at the weekend when demonstrators tried to breach barriers put up by the security forces I would recommend for our producers who are interested in this humanitarian crisis of mag...this incredible magnitude, which is we're all used to hearing it now. But I still see and feel what's going on so it's still in the media here of course. The Brenner Pass, I suggest you look it up the Brenner Pass has been really THE important trade route

2:32:51 Forever since I was... lived in the Netherlands. There's songs about it! Hmm. Met de vlammen in de pijp, scheur ik door de Brennerpas met mijn 30 tonnen diesel. Ver van huis maar in m'n sas. Gedel! A little update on refugees in Greece. Greek authorities are urging refugees to leave a makeshift Idomeni camp close to the border with the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and move to official reception centers elsewhere in the country

2:33:29 After weeks in the sprawling camp trapped by Balkan border closures, the migrants are facing the prospect of removal to processing centers and the possibility of deportation to Turkey. We'll stay here where can we go? If we go back there's a bigger problem Nobody should forget what's happened to us. All the people who've moved away say it is just the same, the same kind of life They give you a portion of pasta and piece of bread Is that enough for human being to survive on? Many cling to the hope that the borders will reopen and they'll be allowed to continue their journey across Europe, primarily to Germany. Human rights groups say living conditions are appalling and the health risks are high but the flyers make great paper planes. I just thought that was a nice little beautiful end to this human tragedy Oh! But they make nice airplanes out of the fliers

2:34:31 Man, and how about Austria? How about Austria? Hey no just no asylum. You can't get asylum go away Do you think that yeah they got these guards these looks like this looks like the SS I mean could we see Could we see history repeating that Austria like we gotta do something but Austria first because they're being a-holes Actually, that wasn't exactly what happened. But you know I'm just saying... No it's not really. It's not at all what happened because i saw the sound of music! I know what happened You know what happened? You saw the sound of music. Yeah, you know Colonel Van Tromp didn't want to join with the Nazis he was an Austrian and yet the German said you got to be part of us And then he said let's go to Switzerland The hills are alive So um you remember we did a piece on the suicides

2:35:27 that are going on in the United States is an increase in suicides. Yes, yes and we concluded... We had a number of conclusions that were all reasonable one is there was no research on SSRIs? That and a couple of other things And so all of a sudden I hear Tom Tom, and you love him because you listen to that station which can't get in Europe. I can have my Sirius XM app but honestly i have not hunkered for tom for a couple days. It's hard it's hard to listen to this stuff yes so there's all these different reasons they think for the suicides I think 11 has do with social media perhaps is always different things what are your thing

2:36:06 Tom Hartman would think is causing this. Oh, I know a lack of super beats Funny to say that there's other people are selling this stuff too He sells the super beats does he sell yes? The whole channel sells super beats tom super beats tom super beets calm and then that that's terrible that jack off in the morning That woman said mama's beats mama's beats that they're all mama's beats an uber My God. Yeah, anyway let's play the Tom Hartman's an idiot clip and you'll see what he's what is causing this But I wanted to talk to you also about suicide the US suicide rate now Is it a 30-year high? Well where were we thirty years ago? We had another Republican in office Another right we had a Republican in office And this is the Sabrina have Renisa in today's New York Times

2:37:03 Actually, it was Friday's New York Times. Suicide in the United States has surged to the highest levels in nearly 30 years a federal data analysis has found with increases in every age group except older adults The rise was particularly steep for women It was also substantial among middle-aged Americans The overall suicide rate rose by 24% from 1999 to 2014 Now we go back I've shared this with you many many times so the BBC back in 2002 The headline, more suicides under conservative rule. Australian scientists found the suicide rate in a country increased significantly when a conservative government was in power and you know again we have Barack Obama in the White House but the power President Obama is in the White House but the power of the house and senate is where the power to appropriate it is. In other words to make life better for all. The president doesn't have that power And the house and senator are in the hands of conservatives or republicans

2:38:01 The Australian team and I know the reason people are killing themselves is they're listening to Thumb Heartman. That's why people are committing suicide. Suicide statistics from 1901 to 1988, the researchers took into account periods of drought in World War Two but after adjusting for these factors, the figures clearly showed the highest rates of suicide occurred when both conservative state and federal governments were in power. Whoa whoa whoa So that's it. Republicans kill. Republicans make you want to kill yourself. Play the rest of it, part two because he raps a little bit there is a rap but its like its ludicrous rap because his conclusions about where this report came from and they're playing him out. While he's rapping thats kind of sad

2:38:47 Yeah, the other story I wanted to open with today. I've got a whole bunch more that I want to share with you. Oh gee! But again this has to do with our culture frankly Another part of military...of a draft as it were is that it gets people out of their comfort zones and our normal lives and into the world. Is this the right? I'm sorry this is uh... Even if its just you know... This is ThumbIsAnIdiot2 Huh! Well play it out Quite honestly it says 2 and there's a T after your two You know, the way you write your clips sometimes. The world of the hospital... We can talk about it later. No I don't want to talk about this. Play it play it! I may have misclipped it Even if its just you know, the world of the hospital on the other side of town that your volunteering at

2:39:33 Conversely, the lowest suicide rates occurred when state and federal governments were both labor. That would be our Democratic Party. They say they end the article over... Keep in mind this is the BBC! This is a news story, this not commentary Overall they say that figures suggest that 35 thousand people would not have died had the conservatives not been in power equivalent to one suicide for every day of the 20th century or two for every day that the conservatives ruled Wanna stop suicide? Abandon conservative governance. Okay, I'm gonna give you a clip of the day-I think that was worth it. It was well worth it. And everybody you know the answer You know what to do. You don't want to harm yourself just do the happy dance! Get it get it get it and then I'll have a wonton! Happy dance happy dance! Get it get it get it! Alright beautiful

2:40:30 So that's what you get when you listen to this guy. Yeah, I think your theory is right He's causing the suicide At least alright everybody thank you very much for hanging in there on them on the stream was a tough one today But on Sunday we'll do it all over again from the same location with the same challenges but at least I'll know how To set it up so we get some form. I know people are not able to catch the stream continuously It's kind of coming in and out but hey, I'm sending 56 kilobits of stream We got Skype going Doing what we can no. It's good you sound good doing the best We can from the good ship SS plop here Which is located on one of the lovely canals in the capital of gitmo nation lowlands Amsterdam in the morning everybody I'm Adam curry and northern Silicon Valley where by the way, I think that paparazzi should be hanging out around you And we have

2:41:31 Plop City around here. I'm John C. Dvorak. Did you call him? Did you give the location, did you give them the bank account? Nobody has contacted me so i can do that deal and make some cash on this side but these guys aren't that... I could... john at dvorak dot org and we'll be back on Sunday. Yeah, john at dvorak dot org. I can set you guys up Once again from Amsterdam The Netherlands until then adios mofos in the morning Alright, we ready? I can't help but think about Upton Sinclair who said it's hard to get a man to believe something when his salary depends on his not believing. That's your business too Bill! So you must believe this

2:42:24 Okay, he's got the Upton Sinclair quote wrong. It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it. Ah! He substituted the word believe. So you must believe this? This is not scientific anything. This is a belief system and he actually proves it by using the word belief in instead of understands. Shut up, slave! Science So I predict that the year 2016 will be among the top 10 hottest years ever recorded Oh well i'm not a scientist I'm not a scientist either but... Believe this You believe in the wrong religion my friend Douche Was it appropriate to jail the guys from Enron? Or was it appropriate to jail people from cigarette industry

2:43:17 So I can see where people are very concerned about this and they're pursuing criminal investigations. So we'll see what happens, We'll see what happens... So what we want to do is have a fee for carbon There it is! If you see something Say something I had this group of young You know Techno experts Techno experts here Techno experts Techno experts

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2:46:25 Maybe we come up with another denomination. Maybe we do the $2 bill, or we do another bill. We already knew the $2 bill! What they doing most? Because Trump and Carson think that together is not going to get through. Let's use code to call a hairy tuft of the hoe. Yeah, good one! Good one, good one and that's exactly what Carson said about his $2 hoe. $2 hoe. And you can always follow me on Twitter at AdiosMofo The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak.org slash N-A