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00:00 Everything would not even be an issue if we'd all go vegan. From power blips to cyber glitches, we cut through all the bullcrap. Broadcasting live from the Crackpot condo in downtown Austin-Tahoe, steamer Region 6 in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where I don't know what he said...I am John C. DeVore It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning Come on! Just cause you stumbled? Don't blame it on me. Eh. Yeah from power blips to cyber glitches Oh is that what you said? Mmhmm

00:46 Yeah, we had cyber glitches. This is how our... Oh it was good when the power grid went down? Yeah in DC Which is something we didn't talk about It happened after our show Well that's what I said! I didn't say we could have talked about it you said we didn't We did not talk about it yeah That was kind of funny actually It was cute Marie Harf was sitting there doing the briefing with her iPhone flashlight There wasn't anything clippable that was funny enough? So I get these notifications, you know. I keep my phone off and turn it on... Yeah, I know. Your choice goes like this Here's the phone is downstairs and say well it's getting low the battery's getting low I could walk upstairs and stick in the charger or

01:30 I could just turn it off That's a good. That's what I do. I'd turn it off so I turned it off I figure out when I walk upstairs you know maybe I'll bring it up Maybe I won't and then Mimi is a 12 hours later Why weren't you answering your phone? And what we end up with is your turn the phone back on again, bro Bunch of stuff and then all right you need you need to upgrade notifications for your Android apps Yeah, that's what I'm going through these Android apps. That supposedly need upgrades yeah Let me ask this maintenance is all maintenance There's something buzz kill juniors always complaining about so well why does it? Why does any of this stuff need maintenance It's not like a rickety old Ford engine This is why you know I had I was an app developer for awhile and had an app the big app show oh

02:15 which I created myself. It was, uh...I don't want it to sound too technical because i used a lot of frameworks with me which made it pretty easy but every single time particularly if you're doing anything with audio or video video is the worst or really I think anything that utilizes the phone screen which is pretty much everything whenever there's a new software release from Apple whenever there's and certainly if there's a new device with a new screen everybody has to go and update their apps! It's ludicrous well here's my favorite So, I get you need to...you know you should upgrade. I refused upgrade it still worked fine by the way. You should upgrade your flashlight app why? So we can spy on you! What does a flashlight app need upgrading ever?! It's just it turns on the light and that's that how difficult could what is needs fixing? I don't know that's a good question well if you have new devices of whatever new phone came out which I'm sure you heard that in tech news

03:13 There's a S69 Swazil something. So that has to, I'm sure it has different calls for the flashlight and for the flash. It's ridiculous! The whole app... We're recreating what we took decades to do with the web and finally got some things kind of agreed to. This brings to mind another question, since all these guys are so into maintaining following everything you do watching you closely tracking cookies and doing this and doing that why don't they have the database there at home base saying

03:50 Oh, this guy's got an old Android Galaxy. He doesn't need upgrading because he's got no new screen. He doesn't have a S6, he hasn't got anything." So why are they pestering me to upgrade when they must know? This brings up another interesting point as we slide into big data... I don't have an answer for you of course. Of course not! Got an email from Daniel Mackey and sent along the screenshot from Amazon was that Daniel was shopping on Amazon And here's the recommendation. Daniel was buying Pot Shards, Uncle Don's book off of Amazon and here it comes! Pot shards is... I'm sorry but actually blew the joke pot shards is recommended because you purchased Eccuse Magnificent Ranch hand spray lubricant 11 ounce. I blew the joke but so apparently Daniel was searching for

04:46 your lubricant, your hand... a ranch hand lubricant and pot shards is recommended. So this tells us a little bit about how sophisticated all this big data is Here's how it goes skip logic who else ordered this lubricant? Okay now offer them ooh other people who ordered this lubricant have ordered pot shards offer that person pot shard That's the most sophisticated I've seen it. Yeah, they found well... I don't know how well the lubricant sells on Amazon. Well enough to make recommendations apparently! And so yeah they went and saw the lubricants and then they looked through this and said what other five people bought this stuff? Or one for that matter. Two of them bought a copy of pot shards for some reason must have something gardening in the lubricant comes into play How about our show amigo

05:41 It's people who listen to our show who have both items yes, I know but we are now an Amazon skip logic rule They do not make that connection well. Not the no agenda part probably may have thrown in and no Well if that case I'm a man fist bump missed it doesn't matter why you I may not have so by nine possible was possible plus one on the fist bump call out and Just as staying with big data might as well because you're actually taking me right into my first topic, but first Another this was in Forbes. I believe Headline uber the big data company is yeah? I know that what uber is doing apparently Is they um they've hooked up with I think Marriott or star would start for it start You can put in your Starwood preferred guest account

06:34 And then these guys, if you say... and of course the small print is what you overlook. But in the small print they say we can give your data to Starwood under any circumstance, any type of data including where you were how long your trip was how much you paid for it what car all this stuff which to an outfit like Starwood I think would probably be valuable. Maybe And, you know the funny thing is that these guys...most of these companies, these large companies like that who are always wanting this stuff or for all practical purposes hoarders. It may not be useful at all in fact I question whether it is?

07:17 Hoarders their hoarders data hoarders. I tell you yeah What are you doing all that data? Oh, we can't tell you it's top secret so ways though I didn't know this well of course You could know ways which Google bought which is the kind of a social network Which works quite well worse before oh, I not if you're driving alone No, no, I've received. Oh, you don't go your driving along and this thing's popping up everywhere Well, don't do this. Don't do that." Acknowledge it. I'm driving! It's been a while since you used it, I think. That's the reason he almost get into wreck every time to think... But when you think about so I've given up on driving within a certain radius within Austin mainly because of the sirens you hear here especially if there is any alcohol involved. You do not want to get pulled over in Austin for sure but in Texas having had one drink you do not want this

08:15 Just about everybody I know has spent at least one night in jail, and a lot of my friends have to start their car by blowing into a tube. So this is not something I'm looking forward to! But they know so much... you know when you went out where you went oh Curry went to the Yellow Rose again The Yellow Rose of Texas it's one of the better ones It's in Austin? Mm-hmm. It's a bar? mm-hmm kinda With strippers? What do you mean, kind of. With strippers... Oh it's a stripper joint?! Yeah! Oh are you pool dancers?? Yeah! Huh... Let me check this out... Yellow Rose Austin In fact I think we have a report live from the yellow rose of Texas From Reseda here she is Raven give it up

09:16 I found out that my, uh...I know a little bit more about my neighbors here in the building. Because they're showing up at the Yellow Rose Men's Cabaret on Lamar Boulevard! That's where i'm meeting all of my neighbors So we have an ER doctor here across the hall who likes to, when he is home, cooks up bacon and sausage and eggs with his door open. It's very...I live in a ghetto building. He's wearing his underwear? I live in a ghetto building probably But then the woman next to him, also across the hall... Check this name out. Stephanie Colorado. Oh wow! What a great name! She's a stripper. Webcam hello? Hey everybody I'm Stephanie Colorado how you doing? Love that. You know they don't have them looking at their website

10:06 And I don't see any of the girls. A lot of them like to list them and show on... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh wait here we go. This is employment opportunities entertainers wanted. Accepting applications for entertainers who meet the following... The criteria. Must be 18 in great shape? Uh-oh! Take pride in your appearance So this brings me to a real topic And I got a lot of email and pushback, I would say. And fairly so about something we talked about on the last show namely alcoholism and i said well this is a sickness...an illness..a disease! We went back and forth for two seconds like oh whatever fine yeah sounds like it

10:53 And so many people, this is bullcrap. This is not a disease and of course it wasn't listed as a disease or an illness years ago until of course the DSM, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, we're up to number five now added it for insurance purposes and I've done some research on this with some of the medical professionals here in the Austin area So it was purely added... Disease or not, the actual medical science I can't weigh in on that but i can tell you that is considered a disease by DSM and DSM-5 has some very...I just pulled up the latest substance use disorder fact sheet. You know me Wednesday night got nothing better to do. Let me bring out my

11:48 my World Health Organization and CDC documentation. See what you're missing out on? Yeah, you never know! So there are some changes which are interesting in relation to this and this brings me to a bigger big data topic first of all substance use disorder is DSM-5 combines the DSM 4 categories of substance abuse and substance dependence into a single disorder measured on a continuum from mild to severe added to the list drug craving Though not even using, but craving drugs is now a disorder. Craving is a disorder? Craving a drug I thought it was like a physiological construct based on the way bodies work Well 97% of scientists disagree with you Addictive disorders now also includes gambling disorder So this will be covered on your insurance And this falls under a new category of behavioral addictions

12:50 Which includes internet gaming disorder. This is great! Internet gaming disorder, that's a good one. Does it include visiting the yellow rose three times a week? Four. At this time condition criteria at this time...this is critical...at this time condition criteria do not include general use of the internet gambling or social media but note the at-this-time Oh yeah, they gotta put Facebook addiction on this thing. Well it's included in section 3 of the manual which is drawn up specifically to encourage further research on the impact of...

13:32 General use of the internet, which can be an addiction. I'm sorry an addictive disorder. I would think so social media and coffee caffeine will also be added to the Caffeine isn't that great? So from this I learned you know I eat a chocolate bonbon every day oh rude I learned about a big data project which is, as we speak being implemented worldwide known as the ICD-10. I'm pretty sure that we've never discussed it and I don't think I'd ever heard of it have you ever heard of this uh...ICD 10? No but I am going to now Of course! ICD 10 is obviously the follow up to ICD 9 This is the tenth revision of the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems

14:26 which is a medical classification list by the World Health Organization and of course it contains codes for diseases, signs and symptoms abnormal findings complaints social circumstances an external causes injury or disease as opposed to the ICD-9. ICD 10 is almost like IPV 6 versus IPV 4 on the internet. Massive difference! Yes Now, this...and these are of course what we also will call often the billing codes. $14400... Howard Baetjer It's like if you get your car mechanics have these. It says Volvo muffler replacement one hour at this price. Mike Lugin Yeah like white male prostate removal exactly it'll say I don't know if it lists specifically how much it costs

15:19 But these codes can now be expanded to over 16,000 codes by using optional subclassifications. Now this is a big deal this changeover although pretty much not publicized at all and when you look deeper into it you start to understand why there's a compliance deadline set for October 1st of 2015 um and this is what uh Health and Human Services put out for the United States It's a huge problem for smaller practices which are pretty much The Affordable Care Act and other choices we have made as a people's here in the United States of Gitmo Nation is leading to small practices being pushed out of the medical professional. Yeah, all these big giant corporate machine manufacturing...

16:04 These HMOs, you go in. It's like Kaiser. Kaiser set the stage for this. Precisely, precisely. You go in there and take a number and get any random doctor who doesn't care. Well some of them do. And sometimes you can actually request the same guy over and over but it's not like getting some guy that's near your neighborhood doctor. No. I actually when I was younger had Kaiser for years and even worked at a Kaiser place which gave me free Kaiser which continued for some reason And I didn't really mind it that much. It wasn't that bad, but it wasn't as cozy as a real doctor...not that they're not real. In a report from the AMA, they found that small practices can expect to spend anywhere between $56,639 to $226,105 just to become compliant because it really is a huge dude-named Ben project and it's a big IT project

16:56 And you can imagine the databases, it's almost like Y2K really when you think about it except that you're going to get penalized if you don't adhere to it. So looking at now here is the deal with this ICD-10 This is what your medical...your digital health profile is going to be okay? This is going to travel with you You said okay! Amen fist bump I should have said right No Sorry This is going to travel with you wherever you go in the world of being an international standard. But the ICD-10 really goes incredibly far, here are some of the blocks as they call it... Blocks of codes and we can

17:45 Dive deeper into anyone you want I've selected one. So this will be certain infectious parasitic diseases Neoplasms disease of the blood, blood-forming organs This is all kind of normal nutritional metabolic diseases mental and behavioral disorders But this is not going to be on record and shuttled around, and when you go to your doctor and say hey if we have to send this to somebody like the government. You have to let us do that although HIPAA has some rules forbidding that This is pretty much just going to be out there Diseases of skin Pregnancy childbirth Certain conditions originating in the perinatal period I like this external causes of morbidity and mortality

18:34 Um, vehicle and traffic injuries will be on your record. Unintentional falls. Striking against or struck by sports equipment. Crushed jammed or pinched in between objects. Contact with lifting contact with sharp glass contact with knife sword or dagger. Contact with non-powered hand tool rifle shotgun larger firearm discharge which may mean you just discharged it, and then discharge from other and unspecified firearms. Then we have gunshot wounds exposure to noise, exposure to vibration Here's the one I'm worried about foreign body entering into or through a natural orifice Imagine Richard Gere man he gave this on his record contact with hyperglycemia... Well that would include all forms of normal sex Foreign uh let's see foreign body well let's see the definition of a foreign body hold on

19:35 or sometimes known as FB, is an object originating outside the body. Okay you're right, sex! So sex is a disorder? No, I'm not... no. A little bit beyond the disorder This is all the things that will now be on your record that were previously not documented So what are you like going into a priest for a confessional when you go to your doctor so how many times did you have sex as foreign object with your husband's penis it's not yours so its his It's foreign, it's foreign. How many time it's foreign and he's also from Mexico so there something And boom de boom they write it down

20:12 You had you shoot a gun this week and boom, yeah. If if not if I'm a medical professional will have to document this so this all comes down to how crazy you are of course that's why it folds into all this DFDSM stuff so intentional self-harm there there's codes for self poisoning and exposure to non opioid analgesics what about pinching yourself because well it's probably on here It's probably on here. Self-poisoning, exposure to drugs, unspecified drugs, self poisoning by alcohol so if you're an alcoholic that's in there... What if you just had a shot of vodka? Yeah! If you self poison... I can go for one now. Oh well that's probably disorder. Mmhmm. Intentional self harm by handgun drowning

21:01 Drowning yourself is harsh, man. Hanging... Intentional self-harm by explosive material smoke fire flames steam hot vapors hot objects who tries to kill themselves or self harm with steam? Sharp object. Steam! Intentional self harm by blunt object it gets crazy intentional self harm from jumping by jumping from a high place jumping or lying before moving object crashing of motor vehicle and then unspecified means etc. Everything you do, if a medical professional sees you for whatever ails you these things are going to be documented very specifically no longer just well he came in at broken arm... No! And I believe that this is the kind of stuff that you really don't want in any digital form seeing as we can't keep anything safe

21:54 Well, I'm disturbed by the whole thing. My doctor... You know this a couple years ago? I've talked about it on the show before he's bitching about how they've changed their... Because of the law they have to do everything electronically now so that he has a laptop some sort and he has to take his computer out. A Chromebook! No, it was actually some off-brand. He just takes all his notes and all the paper records have to be scanned in... So what was private paper records that are really owned by the patient which people don't realize you own your medical records? Not that anybody cares about this anymore Now its just an electronic form which is like you said

22:36 There's no safe place for electronic forms, for all these protection of... Oh protecting my medical records is bogus. There's no way you can protect any of this stuff. Correct. They're hacking left and right, whoever they are the Ukrainians or Russians the Chinese North Koreans Well well since you bring it up since you bring it up We might as well go to our little F Russia segment. That hack that took place at the State Department, which was publicized at the time uh was actually done by hackers working for the Russian government eventually they managed to get... That's a great classification. Beer is actually done by hackers

23:20 hackers working for the Russian government. Boy, Wolf Blitzer knows a lot doesn't he? He's really got some good inside info. Where do you get that information? State Department. To the White House computer system as well what can you tell us about... This is Ben Rhodes who was the national security advisor to President Obama. How about that? Well Wolf first of all I'm not gonna get into details about our cyber security efforts. Of course not! What i can say though Wolf is well if you said we were public about the fact that we were dealing with cyber intrusions and the State Department was public about that. But the fact of the matter is, we have different systems here at The White House so we have an unclassified system and then we have a classified system, a top-secret system. That is where the sensitive national security information is, the classified information is...that was a secure system So we do not believe that our classified systems were compromised We do not believe

24:14 Nice, isn't it? He does not believe. Doesn't know? Yeah! No. Doesn't he know? Should know? Yeah no yeah no! Hey man fist bump. No he doesn't know. He doesn't believe. is a setup and I'm going to tell you what it is. We need to not put information that is sensitive on that system so in other words if you're gonna do something as classified, you have to do it on one email system or phone system and frankly you have to act as if information could be compromised if its not on the classified system okay now this is a hack that I believe they're talking about something happened at State Department months ago at this point probably six or seven weeks ago

25:03 Now there is some unspecified something or other going around saying, oh well they got into the White House unclassified system. It's very important through the State Department system if that's true I don't know it's a setup and this is Mike Flynn This is we've heard from him before this the former DIA Defense Intelligence Agency chief Lieutenant General Michael Flynn the guy who was kicked out Remember this guy, right? Oh yeah. He's all over the place by the way and I got a note from one of our very trusted military sources who of course his job is to handle me so take that take it with uh with that grain of salt Adam i know Mike very well i'll be seeing him at the end of this month so we'll be able to get some deeper info The reason why he was kicked out as he wanted more spooks on the ground to get intel for the DIA Obama's NSA and national security advisors thought otherwise guess who was the deputy at the NSA at the time

26:00 John Brennan. Both Petraeus and Flynn wanted more spooks on the ground to gather more intel, but Obama's team thought otherwise." So with that background in mind... And I would say he's probably going to be if he's politically active, I would think based upon what he is saying here about Hillary Clinton's emails I would say he's more in the red right camp. As a military officer, if i said... ...I was doing something for convenience sake to my- to the soldiers that I was leading and it was solely too from my convenience instead of their you know uh their welfare, I should be relieved of duty. I would expect to be fired

26:46 You know, it's one of those things if it doesn't feel good. It probably isn't and this one doesn't feel good to me What do you think the odds are that that the Chinese the Russians hacked into that server in her email account very high? Really? Yep. They're very good at it, those two countries China and Russia. They are good at it. Japan. Potentially the North Koreans I mean these are countries and other countries who may be quote unquote our allies because they can't so... She says the server was always at the house under protection by the Secret Service at least a physical server do you have any questions about who is actually maintaining that server

27:28 I think we all ought to be asking that question. If it's government, if the Blackberry is government and she did everything... Everything a person in that level of responsibility touches who is in the government belongs for the government for the most part. If you're using a government device to do personal things I just think that's what you do, and you accept that. And if somebody is doing things... If somebody is sending you stupid things, you tell them to stop." This is a setup John! This is set up to show the Russian and Chinese hackers they can get into the White House They clearly got into Hillary's email and it was a huge security breach of epic proportions and she should be thrown in the brig!

28:14 There are four things I want the public to know. First, I thought it would be easier during my four years as Secretary of State. Obviously it hasn't worked out that way. Second, I opted for convenience and I think most people understand that. Third no one wants their yoga routines made public. And fourth What difference at this point does it make? Hugh Allison, little remix before the show. What difference does it make? What difference at this point does it make? You can put that to end of everything she says Yeah I think so just the what difference could that by this point does that make Well there's no doubt they're trying to stop her

29:03 I mean, they're going all out. I think, and the Republicans...I don't care what they say or what they like to believe. They have nobody and they had...I could've made some clips because I listened to all the Rand Paul crap. Oh, I got so bored of listening to him? He's terrible but he was good at getting into beefs with some of the anchors. Megyn Kelly and him were yelling at each other more or less even though we said oh, we weren't yelling!

29:44 You know, he doesn't... I don't know. He's just... I think he's- He's a drip! He is a drip and he has that funny voice the way he talks It's like what accent is THAT? Yeah Well talking about that kind of thing, I do want to go into a little thing on vocal fry because I finally put my little bit together on this. Now vocal fry is a way of talking that's become an epidemic, and 75% of college women do it now. And the best way to describe it in the clip I've got here that I want to start with is Faith Sally who there are a bunch people online who have talked about this but I think Faith...and I had to cut out a lot of her examples because it was still too long but now it's not bad she talks about

30:29 of this issue of Vocal Fry, which we first identified—we didn't know what it was called. It's also called gulateralization or something... But gutteralization? Yeah that's it. And the first person that we identified on the show that had to an extreme was Jill Abramson. Yes former executive editor of The New York Times And she, we heard her when she took the position and then every time she comes on. You have a clip of her I think you found something one of their older clips? Yeah this was an interview that Katie Couric did with her when she was just at Yahoo! When she got fired. Then it has some prime examples of her

31:13 I was given an indication of why and you know publicly. But how do you not, an indication? I'm just curious if someone is terminating you and saying that you no longer have a job don't they have to sort of tell you specifically or not? You know, I was told some specifics but basically mainly what I was told and it is completely the privilege of the publisher of The New York Times. We all serve at his pleasure to make a change and mainly he told me he decided to make a change. Change! Okay well you can start that then.

31:51 Let's listen to the explanation from Faith Sally about the phenomenon. America's young women are running out of oxygen What else could explain why so many of them sound like this? Believe it or not, there is a scientific term for the way a Kardashian speaks and its vocal fry It's a low, creaky vibration produced by the fluttering of vocal cords. Speech pathologists call it a disorder that verges on vocal abuse! Call it a quirk, trend or epidemic – vocal fry is everywhere A recent study of women in college found that two-thirds used this glottalization When I was tween in the early 80s, the valley girl was born She brought us like and uptalk

32:36 And there's been like a general cultural agreement that, like that kind of speech leaves the user sounding airheady and unprofessional. But both are fine. When she says the word unprofessional tell me that this is not...she doesn't sound identical to Rachel Maddow The Valley Girl was born She brought us Like and Uptalk? There has been like a general cultural agreement That, like that kind of speech leaves the user sounding airheaded and unprofessional Am I right? Amen. I'll give that one to you, yeah! Alright, anyway, let her finish.

33:28 Some linguists even suggest that creaky young ladies are evolving our culture as linguistic innovators. Well, metaphorically I encourage every woman to find her voice. I'm dismayed at how low it can go. I'm burned out on the fry. It sounds underwhelmed and disengaged. Annoying to listen to a young woman who sounds world weary and exactly like her 14 best friends. Yeah! To me, it sounds like a Kardashian. It doesn't make anyone sound intelligent to me. It sounds like a lot of people I know

34:04 It's being picked up left and right. Like an unstoppable situation, in fact even this woman she gave talk normally once in a while kind of dropped into a very mild version of it yeah there was that whole special on NBC about this now let's listen to the favorite my favorite by the way I think that idea is upper class stems from Connecticut thing you know you're in Connecticut Daphne can bring the croquet racket here's where I hear it in Austin Wendy Davis, I heard she was catheterized when she did her filibuster. She's so awesome! Yeah That in that context is where you hear it in Austin Okay well let's play the...I consider the master of this and I have a bunch of short clips but there's one long one here Play Jill again, this is Jill Abramson And The Fry And The Fry okay

35:00 New place is the old place in many ways, which is what distinguishes The Times as quality journalism. And we do that in print and the print newspaper and we do it innovative ways digitally By the hour, we deepen stories. By bringing readers into the conversation you enliven a story and add new dimensions to it and I've been very invested in our digital work And, you know we used to talk at the Times. You know even Arthur would use the phrase We have to be ready for our digital future well It's not the digital future it's a digital present Let me ask you a question you did not edit that at all Did you know and that was not edited people in the chat room so are you edited this? You made it sound worse now Here's a couple of the words I pulled out from that particular article

35:57 Little talk that was with Charlie Rose, but I know what you play these just a short. This is the words first hour Okay our It sounds like she's in pain. Play it without stepping all over the place! Sorry, I had to laugh it was very funny here we go. Ourrrr... Ourrrr... Ourrrr... Now my favorite one though in this group was work where she decides to do the fry but because there is a K at the end and then she has to do the word wereeeerrr and then she puts the k way afterwards and this is right from the talk. Okay

36:41 Work. Work. Work. Uh-huh, nice! Alright now she goes on... Now I've got her on a different uh... She's on a different show And again, this was a speech she gave in New York with what's the name of the guy who used to use within New York? I'll think of his name in a minute. Yeah, actually on my show Silicon Spin once anyway it was an hour and half of her talking and one of my favorite words is front runner when she throws this one out. It looked like she wants to front run or in fact prohibitive frontrunner

37:27 I could have known it was coming. Well, the first front runner was legit the second one I did stretch Finally there's one little one incredibly curious is kind of interesting you know i'm just incredibly curious Curious No wonder she got who could put up with this Yeah Well, anyway if you hear people that talk like this... We need to say something. We need a comeback! They need to be called out! Yeah. Heyyyy.... You don't need some sort of linguistic anomaly coming out or click-talkers before all the sudden none of it. This is a Kardashian thing It first started showing up in the public domain in 2011 If you start doing some research on it they start talking about it then and its just gotten worse and worse As it is

38:24 Don't know if there's anything my little thinking machine didn't know about vocal fry. That's right I don't know if we can combat that what we need is we need a shock for vocal fry We have other disorders, I'm shocked shocked to find Tourette's is going on in here yes, we got that and we don't have a Vocal fry I'm sure will happen before the end of the show let's hope not In California There is an executive order that came out. Executive Order B-29 or dash one five, Executive Department State of the People's Republic of California. I'm sure you didn't read it even though you live there

39:11 Right. This is Jerry Brown, your governor and he was on the C-SPAN explaining to some interesting detail about this executive order the power of his executive order this relates to water and water usage Oh yeah no I we took this was covered in the news Amen fist bump Yeah it's covered in the news but I have the executive order here And I have him explaining in one minute Explaining Do you think that will be a real wake up call? It is a wake-up call and it should be for everyone because this executive order... He sounds like he just got up. He doesn't sound too good, does he? ...under emergency power and has the force of law very unusual. Emergency power John! This is what caught my ear

39:53 Very unusual, the governor himself says. Power! He's got power! And it is requiring action and changes in behavior from the Oregon border all the way to the Mexican border. It affects lawns, it affects people how long they stay in the shower, businesses use water... Hello? How long you stay in the shower slave?! And how do you really enforce this? Yeah, that's always a good question. How are we going to enforce how long people stand under the shower? Each water district that actually delivers waters to homes and businesses they carry it out We have a state water board that oversees The relationship with all these local districts there hundreds of them And so if they don't comply people can be fined $500 a day

40:39 The districts can go to court and get a cease-and-desist order. The enforcement mechanism is powerful in the drought of this magnitude, you have to change that behavior and yet to change it substantially." Now the timing of this executive order is of course interesting on the heels of the bogus news report that NASA said we only have one year left of water in California And even though this was not true, even though NASA said that's not what we said. That's not true Now we have all of these laws in effect that will apparently determine how long you can take a shower and there is very powerful... Get out! So do you want to just read through the it is hereby ordered that?

41:27 Well, I think you're anxious to. I am! I'll listen There's a lot of whereas-whereas...you know, whereas we're all gonna die Save water State Water Resources Control Board shall impose restrictions to achieve a statewide 25% reduction in potable urban water usage through February 28th 2016 So this is how long this is going to be in effect The department shall lead a statewide initiative in partnership with local agencies to collectively replace 50 million square feet of lawns and ornamental turf with drought-tolerant landscapes. So if you have an ornamental turf, or a lawn... You are going to be provided funding by the department to allow for lawn replacement

42:10 Oh, I like that. I don't have a lawn by me. I do in the backyard if you call it called the weed patch of lawn. I'll call it that. I guess my motive is to start. Yeah yeah California Energy Commission jointly with the department and the Water Board shall implement an eight time limited statewide appliance rebate program as money there The water board shall prohibit irrigation with potable water or ornamental turf That is confusing to me. Why? Does that mean you cannot irrigate your lawn if it's an ornamental turf? It means you can irrigate it but it has to be grey water or some other... Can't be potable. Can't be drinkable. Well, anything that comes out of your hose is drinkable isn't it?

42:52 Currently mm-hmm the water board shall prohibit irrigation with potable water outside of newly constructed homes Here's what you could do you take your hose water, but throw a couple cups of dirt in a bucket Hose the bucket fill it up with dirty water and then use that okay. You try that The homes and buildings will have to have drip or micro spray systems for irrigation. Well, that should've been implemented anyway... The Water Board shall direct urban water suppliers to develop rate structures and other pricing mechanisms including but not limited to surcharges fees and penalties to maximize water conservation consistent with statewide water restrictions! That means you're gonna be paying more. Doesn't seem to bother ya'.

43:39 There's very little I can do about it. They do, every time something happens they make us pay more when we all of a sudden are in the flooding stages of the cycle which goes up and down in California they never lower their prices oh we've got too much water let's lower the prices so people use more no that never happens And here it is. The California Energy Commission, jointly with the Department of Water and Boards shall implement a water energy technology... That's an acronym John! Water energy technology WET. The WET program. Wooo! Somebody did a high five over that didn't they? I got an idea man let's call this WET.

44:17 Shall implement the WET program to deploy innovative water management technologies for businesses, residents industries and agriculture. This program will achieve water energy savings and greenhouse gas reductions by accelerated use of cutting-edge technology such as Renewable Energy Power desalination integrated on site reuse systems Water Use Monitoring Software this is your smart meter amigo Squirrel! your smart meter is going to tell them how much, how long you've been in the shower. And in order to just make it completely nuts the department is directed to enter into agreements with landowners for the purposes of planning and installing of the emergency drought barriers in 2015 to the extent necessary to accommodate access to barrier locations landside and waterside construction. Now that one of those deals where some water meter guy is gonna make a mint

45:16 And I'd say that...I started looking for investments in desalinization technology. Well, before we get to that so the department is directed to enter into an agreement into agreements with landowners where the department Is unable to reach an agreement with land owners The Department may exercise full authority of government code section 8572 and of course for your edification The Government Code, Section 8572. You can almost guess what it is... "...in the exercise of the emergency powers hereby vested in him during a state of war or emergency..." "...the Governor is authorized to commandeer or utilize any private property or personnel deemed by him necessary..." "...in carrying out the responsibilities hereby vested in him as Chief Executive." Eminent domain!

46:09 Yeah, they've abused eminent domain in California already to an extreme. I'm reminded of this guy down the street there was a little corner lot that was on one of the blocks and they were going to redo a bunch of crazy stuff to the freeway nearby And apparently they're gonna bring it fell off some sort of a ramp or something so they condemned this guy's apartment building he had It's like six unit thing. He was okay looking And...but they were condemning it and they said, you got to sell it to us at some ridiculous prices. It was probably not market value at the time." And he spray-painted all these protest things all over the building. They tore down anyway and then so the lot now...and this is 10 years ago. The lot to this day is still there remains vacant. Never did anything. They just took his property and then now we have a lot of empty lot

47:02 The president came out and I'm parsing through his whole... he came out all right. I'm parsing through his whole... It was a while ago yeah, through his whole speech and i'll have it on maybe some bits on Sunday but he talked about climate change and there's a new fact sheet again this is all for Sunday it came out too late for me to really get into it well you know I have to protest this report why? I have something just to play We'll play that and then I'll protest it after you're gonna protest my report yes, well Well, here are the three morning news programs. They all got to interview the president in the same setting which is kind of funny when you see him all sitting in the same set and he put them one after another specifically about his mention of the asthma cases going up in the United States because of I guess climate change greenhouse gases. He is now equating carbon dioxide which has already been called carbon pollution

48:03 to the reasons for asthma, which I think scientifically may be kind of difficult to prove. Oh crap! Yes thank you What do you say to the people who deny that climate change is real and that it is impacting our health? Yeah The good news is is that the number of climate deniers are shrinking rapidly. I love that They're shrinking, what? You know they were getting old and they're not as tall as they were when there are teenagers. The number of the number of climate deniers is shrinking! Climate change is real it's real it's real it's real And that was uh today show here is good morning

48:39 America? And asthma is something your family has experienced. Do you worry that the environment, the climate has impacted on your own daughter? This guy will do anything! My daughter's sick from the climate change everybody. You're at CVS this morning... You have two daughters who are teenagers Are you thinking long term because of them? Is that somehow part of the equation? Again with the daughters Now, if you want to berate me on this report before I play my kicker from the United Nations please go now. No you kick it in with the final thing and i'm going to tell you why this is all unimportant okay? This is executive secretary of the united nations framework convention on climate change ie the IPCC boss or she's above the ipcc i think Cristina Figueres You know this lady with a bad haircut yeah

49:36 And he has a solution. OK, a related issue is fertility rates and population. A lot of people in energy environmental circles don't want to go near that because it's politically charged. It's not their issue. But isn't it true that stopping the rise in population would be one of the biggest levers in driving this never let up those gases? Well I mean, we all know we expect 9 billion by 2050. So yes obviously less people would exert less pressure on the natural resources and that's just a myth. Is nine billion foregone conclusion? That's like baked in done not gonna no way to change that

50:16 Well, there again is pressure in the system to go toward that. We can definitely change those right? Right! We can definitely change these numbers and we really should make every effort to change the numbers because we are already today We should make every effort, now listen to what she's saying. Every effort to change those numbers that means anything is on the table including population reduction. Already exceeding the planetary carrying capacity. I love planetary John, planetary carrying capacity write it down this is a beaut today to say nothing of adding more population that is going to really overextend our capacity. So yes, we should do everything possible just by curtailing population then we've solved the problem.

51:03 Yeah, everybody kill people Kill them I say kill kill kill Bomb them we need to kill and bomb them bomb them We need to kill and bomb them bomb them. We need to kill them again Kill the people well, we're doing a job of it. We're doing our part. We are nation brown people Well, in the sand. And black people were killing black people shooting them in the back. Rebelizing? Oh yeah you shoot the guys running around and shoot them. That's one... Did you want to say something about this report? Yeah it's all bullcrap because this would be the whole climate change water issue everything! Everything would not even be an issue if we'd all go vegan.

52:00 A lot of this is a part of the Of the movie that's coming out. There's hot documentary everyone's gonna love seeing this cow called conspiracy. Oh my goodness! And here's some evidence, now you know this whole thing about all those showers or use of the 8-minute shower takes up 17 gallons of gas. Gasoline, yeah. A fluoride. Listen to the water clip with Skip Anderson I found out that one quarter pound hamburger requires over 660 gallons of water to produce. Here, I've been taking these short showers trying to save water and find out just eating 1 hamburger is the equivalent of showering 2 entire months! So much attention is given to lowering our home water use yet domestic water use is only 5% of what's consumed in the US versus 55% for animal agriculture That's because it takes upwards of 2500 gallons of water to produce 1 lb of beef

53:00 I went on the government's Department of Water Resources Save Our Water campaign, where it outlines behavior changes to help conserve our water. Like using low-flow showerheads, efficient toilets, water saving appliances and fix leaky faucets and sprinkler heads but nothing about animal agriculture When I added up all the government's recommendations, I was saving 47 gallons a day. But still that's not even close to the 660 gallons of water for just one burger. Wow what happened to peeing in the shower? I've been doing that for years now based upon the recommendation of saving water It's all bullcrap! It's the burgers If you stopped eating burgers

53:39 How about Kentucky fried chicken? Same thing. Oh, but just anything that involves animals. That's what's killing us! We have to stop eating meat There you go. So that whole thing that you ran was just completely futile. It was a futile waste of time because if you had just turned vegan, everything would be solved! Yes and they had charts then these charts showed that if you were vegan you would not have an issue And I don't know how they derive 660, but they asked a little couple of questions on this was democracy. Now obviously they ask a couple of mild questions. They don't want to pound anybody about how do you get the six hundred and sixty gallons of water make one burger?

54:25 Because it doesn't seem to be that big. And they couldn't really... Their answer was, well you know the water that it takes to make the alfalfa and then the amount of water it takes to supply the gasoline to get the trucks to move the alfalfa to the cow and on and on and on and somehow gets to 660 gallons per per burger. Now if that's true, this whole thing is a whole notion by Pat Brown is just crazy! So let me get the numbers right... 660 gallons per burger? Per burger. Per- 660 gallons of water per burger Yes If you do not eat one burger then we have saved six hundred and sixty gallons of water so

55:08 I am science! for a Big Mac thing? And you get a burger for $1, maybe two bucks max. So how does... but how much water do you use in a month there at the Buzzkill bunker? I don't know. My water bill, I don't know many gallons I use but if I'm going to... The gallons that you have on your bill. Do you have a bill handy? No, no I don't. Well check it out and see what it is.

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1:09:35 the PocketNoAgenda app, which I think is still not really working at this moment in time. However there's also... There are now two, I think they call them recipes for IFTTT If This Then That You familiar with this product? I do actually, yes And you can get an app for your iPhone or Android thing Andy's created two recipes, one for each platform. Sir AJ Reissat and hopefully this now works that you then can get the bat signal through the IFTTT app which is good because one of these days there's gonna be something really important and you're going to be in the loop with like an emergency broadcast or something we should make a tape of that. A tape of what? The emergency broadcast

1:10:33 I don't think so. We'll be thanking all of our other producers who came in at $50 or above later on the program, thank you to our executive and associate executive producers these are indeed real credits unlike the phonies in Hollywood we're happy to vouch for you if necessary please go to... And as always we need everybody out there hitting people in the mouth it's called Propaganda Our formula is this- we go out, we hit people in the mouth Hey, citizens. Shut up, Steve! I've been tracking out... Sorry. Yeah? What? No go ahead after you sir. I have a couple of...I have a suggestion for an evergreen clip. Okey dokey Now if people out there want to watch something crazy There are these two guys that graduated from San Francisco State and they did a series of kids shows which were for adults

1:11:41 There were just a mockery of kids shows in some way. They had Muppets and all these things, horrible gags and lots of blood and gore. Is it local show or national? No it was on Adult Swim. Oh okay! On cable but I didn't realize they have them all on YouTube you can watch these things if you can stand getting through one. I think personally that they're hilarious but in very sick way to use that Well, no to use the real word. Anyway they're called Wonder Shosen. Somebody sent me a bunch of discs with these shows on it some time ago. Wonder Shosen? Yeah Wonder Shosen s-h-o-w-z-e-n and they have a lot of crazy little things like they have mostly kids doing jokes that the kids don't themselves get that's written for them but

1:12:25 But play this, it is not the clip I wanted for Evergreen but play this one. This is from the show. This is CIA...this the kind of stuff you get CIA and The Kid. It's conditioning human resource training is what it is get ready for the CIA to control your thoughts now the thing I think is a good possible evergreen is follow the leader Follow the leader Now I'm gonna probably add that to a few clips when I still Halloween Anyway, that's my whole thing about wonder shows in and a couple of clips. Well all of them But I'll connect in with a transition to CIA how about that hit it Snowden

1:13:26 Yeah, now before you talk about Snowden do you want to talk about the statue? Yeah that was strange. A little statue put in, was it Central Park? I think it was Central Park or one of the parks. One of the parks in New York. Yeah somebody took a statue down there and I think that statue is missing though because once they had a statue so they put a statue of Snowden up and changed the thing at the bottom that says Ed Snowden. That's cute! And if you think about it, it was FEMA or somebody who came down and blue tarped the thing and took it off. Assholes! I don't think it was FEMA. That would be great if it was FEMA. That would make sense! No, I think it was just the NYPD... So this is very peculiar and I'm not quite sure yet that's why I want to discuss with you. Not quite sure what I think of it. This is John Oliver who I typically

1:14:15 I yeah, he's funny without a doubt and he does this HBO show. He of course was a correspondent on the Daily Show Daily Show but and a lot of people who listen to our show like him you think it's very funny And I like him um I don't like why doesn't like him either? No, I don't like him that much and for a number of reasons Yeah So he went to Russia if this really proves what a complete bogus bogus branding exercise of Snowden this really is and what Bran Snowden is as he Interviewed snowed in Moscow apparently anybody can now interview with Snowden in Moscow anybody at all. He's trying to meet people the tri-tinder I don't know about doing that and For me it was a little difficult having

1:15:09 A British guy make fun of America, although he was right. I think this is what gets people the most...I think it does bother some people. It bothered me a bit. So he did this whole segment and I've recorded about a minute of it playing a video and this of course is very typical we know how this works you go out on the street to interview 100 people and you pick the 10 out that say oh no We're talking about two different things here domestic surveillance and foreign surveillance because domestic surveillance Americans give some of a shit about Foreign surveillance they don't give any remote shit about I want you to listen to Snowden. So he's now, he's now under the gun He's...I don't know if he was prepared for this time or if he seen the show? I have no idea but he pretty much drones on not like

1:16:03 A dude named Ben who works for the CIA and contracted for the NSA, and then stole... let's just say took documents and released them from Booz Allen. No he sounds like an actual PR guy who just sits down puts on the glasses with the same broken nose guard Because he doesn't wear them unless he's doing an interview because that is Bran Snowden and he's really trying to answer Like a PR person. Well, the second question is when we talk about foreign surveillance when we talk about for who? Who talks like that? He has a mouse in his pocket Are we applying it in ways that are beneficial no one cares That's funny okay Here's the problem I did ask some Americans and boy did it surprise me

1:16:56 I have no idea who Edward Snowden is. You've never heard of him? No, I have no idea who Edward Snowden is. I've heard the name but just can't picture or think right now exactly what it is. Well he's sold some information to people. He reveals information that Shouldn't have been revealed. Edward Snowden revealed a lot of documents through WikiLeaks. Edward Snowden revealed a bunch of secrets, I guess or information into WikiLeaks? Edward Snowden leaked he's in charge of WikiLeaks. I'm in charge of WikiLeaks. Not ideal! I guess on the plus side you might be able to go home because it seems like no one knows who the fuck you are and what the fuck you do... And I think that a lot of that was edited

1:17:45 This I know does it all of her shows extremely at his responses were edited in out-of-order That's at least that's the way. I saw it and then the one that's every but it's an entertainment show I know I Know, but it diminishes everything about Snowden yeah, I agree with that thing they shut him down into this PRs We we when we talk about how much do you miss America? You know my country this was strange is something that travels with me, you know. It's not just a geography... Well that's already way too complicated an answer the answer is I miss it alot its the greatest country in the world. I do miss my country and I do miss home, I do miss family Do you miss Hot Pockets? Yes! I miss hot pockets very much Okay now.. That had to be scripted

1:18:40 That answer that he gave? I don't believe so. I do not believe that because i've been watching the Daily Show long enough to know they're one of their great acts as not being a well-known show amongst the public at large. And I think your initial premise, which was that Snow never heard of John Oliver didn't have any idea there was a comedy show and he would respond but it was trying to respond like it was some sort of a real interview which I've seen The Daily Show do with like mayors and chiefs of police and all the...and try to humiliate them by asking kind of stupid questions Samantha Bee, one of the women who was married to one of the other writers is if you ever get to see her do this she is the absolute most forward humiliating person that they've ever had on the show. I mean she makes people look like complete idiots and I think that's what we had. I don't think it was rehearsed at all well this next answer to me seemed edited.

1:19:41 So the entire state of Florida was a question and this is big long pause Let's just let that silence hang in there. Truck nuts! And then truck nuts? Do you miss truck nuts? I don't know what they are... Now, do you know what truck nuts are? Yeah? Everybody knows what truck nuts are How come Snowden doesn't know what truck nuts are?! What is he a commie?? He's a commie!! Why didn't- everybody knows truck nuts but he doesn't know truck nuts. Oh, found that to be In Texas, definitely in the Toronto Mets. I think half of our audience probably doesn't know what they are.

1:20:22 They're my guess their testicle looking. It's a bag of like testicles hanging off your mold it looked like a couple of Hanging balls and people put some long haul truckers put them in the back of their truck You know did they so they're bouncing not quite, but they're almost hitting the road or you're around back behind one of these guys you go what? Truck nuts Half of the chat room never heard of him. Okay, so there you go I don't know it diminished it totally diminishes Snowden He is a PR guy. I'm not saying that he didn't do what he did or that It wasn't right but he's a PR guy let's face it sounds like one yes He puts on his PR guy glasses yeah no he sounds like Josh Earnest

1:21:10 They've been having I didn't get any clips of this, but they they've been having Josh earnest on various shows including he was on Morning Joe. Oh really? He's doing more shows than just his little stand-up thing oh yeah Is the worst guess oh I can only imagine won't say anything about anything whatever the litany is They can't they can push him off the mark. I can only imagine how horrible ease you have a clip no I said it in a minute. I have a clip from him. I think about Iran. Okay, let me see what this is. Specifically included in the Corker legislation is a provision... Oh yeah this is about the uh now as predicted as predicted

1:21:51 This Iran deal is going this is what the election is going to be about. The teams who are sitting together and putting this Make turn the framework into an actual agreement have until June, but it'll be July August we got a pull all the way through the summer the lull in the media and then we have to Have to fight about it because Congress particularly with this Corker bill is saying, hey if you want to change the sanctions on Iran you have to get our permission. And this bill is now controversial and this is exactly what will be... The media will be yelling about for the next nine months about the Corker Bill and Republicans who were just like oh they want to undermine everything. It essentially makes the agreement contingent upon Iran renouncing terrorism. Now that's an unrealistic

1:22:47 suggestion. I don't see why that's so unrealistic by the way they just say okay we renounce terrorism is that all they have to do? Is that what the Corker bill is about That would, yeah... It's one of those stupid bills that they put in as a roadblock to humiliate one of the parties because the Iranian muckety-mucks are all like, you know, Israel has gotta go. And meanwhile they do sponsor Hamas and Hezbollah and this... And the Houthis? Yeah, it just seems like it's a nun. I'm on earnest side on this I don't think what difference does it make we're trying to keep these guys are pulling up themselves at this point because we've been very clear that This agreement is focused on preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon and that it is not going to succeed In resolving the long list of concerns that we have with Iran's behavior We want to prevent her on from obtaining a nuclear weapon and inserting a provision like this that

1:23:46 essentially is intended to undermine the agreement in the first place, is why we so strongly oppose or at least have significant concerns and oppose the current form of the Corker bill. And there you go You know you got cops shooting a black guy in the back and getting it on tape and then trying setting him up by putting the taser next to him all these sorts of things going on in this country and they spend their time on the Corker bill I mean, to me this is our Congress just trying to one-up each other. Ah these guys did that and we should have done that or he shouldn't do that. They're doing the people's work John. The people's work is ridiculous to these guys. Let's talk about that South Carolina shooting which of course... Now I have some comments on this video and

1:24:36 It reminded me a bit of the Boston Bombers. Just a brief clip here from the South Carolina police chief. I think that if you get all... The answer to your question, sir is that If you are made privy to all of the video, I have not seen all of the video so therefore I can't answer your questions. There's a car video, Slad has that.

1:25:21 And what I understand, the video that I saw was not all of the video that exists. We only were able to look at what was given to us." But I find this case very interesting because of the cell phone video, iPhone clearly is showing...you know first it's in landscape mode then a portrait mode then landscape mode. The guy turns around and I've looked at very closely what there is and it seems to me—and of course we do not have the entire video—there should be as the police chief says there will be a cop car video, I believe. Which will show probably that this guy tried to grab the stun gun which the way i saw it fell on the ground and then he ran away and whether the officer at that point knew that he had the stun gun or not... And I don't know if this is one that shoots prongs with a wire on it? I don't know what kind of stun gun it is! This officer made a decision and shot this guy in the back as he was running away doesn't seem like a very good

1:26:25 and clean kill. What bothers me is as I was perusing around on the narcissistic network of Facebook, then of course i have a lot of so-called friends on facebook who are from other countries... this is generally to forget about what we're going to talk about in America about white cops killing black people On Facebook is America sucks. What a horrible country And I would just like to remind people of the European Convention on Human Rights, one of the protocols that goes along with the Lisbon Treaty which in effect is your constitution of the EU. And this is one of the things that really actually got me started doing this show with you I think we discussed it before even did a show...I would like to read for you section 2 of the EU Convention on Human Rights

1:27:26 Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this article when it results from the use of force which is no more than absolutely necessary in the following cases." So, this is the con... In America there's nowhere in the Constitution does say hey you can kill somebody if you run away from the police. I don't think so. Does it say that John? Do you know are you aware of any such provision? I'm thumbing through it now there was no such reference. No such provision however constitution, the protocols that belong to the Lisbon Treaty, the Convention on Human Rights. The deprivation of life i.e., killing shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this article i.e., your human right to life if a.) it is in defense of any person from unlawful violence b.) In order to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent escape of a person lawfully detained." So this would have been legal in Europe

1:28:22 The way I understand that, you're absolutely correct. And people are like what? What?! Yes now this guy probably... This guy was arrested immediately thrown in jail and then he fired. Yeah or whatever else is coming to him was he no it wasn't thrown in jail Yeah. Oh he was? Well good! No, he's in jail and they've been... no, he got arrested immediately for murder. Murder not manslaughter. And thrown in jail and fired so you know it's not a cop on leave. A paid vacation So I just would like to remind people we do have justice in this country, although Al Sharpton is trying to turn it into the EU. Calling...I tried to get a video but could not find it. There's a National Action Network did a big speech and everybody had the same stupid soundbite could not...and even on Sharpon's own action network website that the most recent video they have was from 2014

1:29:16 It's annoying, but he is calling for federal police laws and you're going to see a lot of people joining in with that. Which of course... libertarian concerns that we're going to have a federal police. Sure, the state's rights will be sure even though the 10th Amendment ensures states' rights and the Constitution ensures state's rights? Yes. But wait John doesn't federal law trump State law in this case it doesn't make any difference if you listen to the guys who know about the Tenth Amendment and why it came to be because it seems redundant

1:29:55 is because some of the founders and people that put together the Declaration of...or not, the Declaration of Independence but the amendments. The first 10 amendments which is the Bill of Rights they made it a number ten right because they were fearful that the Constitution didn't quite make it clear enough. Right well this is all of course not the fault of anybody but well let's listen to House Assistant Minority Leader Jim Clyburn Who is from South Carolina. He's a Democrat, he knows...he can't quite remember the name of the outfit that is responsible for this but this is why. By the way just to spoil it its Republicans. What we've got is that a climate has been created in the country that's causing these things to occur all over and Chris I know I get a lot of criticism from some of my friends

1:30:52 But this so-called American legislative, whatever they call that group. Alex, they have been drawing up these legislation pieces of legislation like stand your ground The legislation gives a license for people to be vigilantes. The cop, this is the cop! He's talking about stand your ground and vigilantes? They're the ones that have drawn up all these so-called voter ID laws. Oh, voter ID... They are the ones who've been drawing up these unfair redistricting plans These people are a cancer

1:31:36 eating at the innards of our society. And it's time for our elected officials to start speaking out about this, because the climate that is being created is not a good climate. And that's why you have these rogue police officers feeling they have license to do what they want to do and there will be no consequences paid for it And I think that's the mindset of this police officer. So it's all the fault of the Republicans is kind of what he says. What is a cancer eating at the dinners? I don't know, this guy is out of his mind because he thinks its Alex so you can't take much of what he says. He's only a representative. He has been in that office forever. Too long too long too long. All right

1:32:30 Let's hear one little, by the way this clip Climate Change One-Liner. I don't know what this clip is Okay, barely been since California experiences a massive drought we'll speak with two documentary filmmakers about the link between climate change and meat consumption It was your setup. Yeah was my setup you said that's all right That's alright. That's good. Here's an interesting clip this from France 24 This is just to prove that the British maybe it has taken a hint from us in And this is about the polls because we have an election coming up in the UK between the different parties. And then, we should probably mention that in the United Kingdom there's a raging debate about the freedom to travel and having Polish workers come in and take British jobs

1:33:23 But this is about the polling going on and who's gonna win. And they... I'm sorry, I thought you meant polls as in the polls from Poland? Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. You said polls! I like polls. Yeah, the polls, the Polish. Oh, I'm sorry. This is where I say we're taking this hint from our approach to polling and now you're gonna hear some of them with what the polling has revealed. Tell me who do you think is gonna win. Well, we don't know, do we? Isn't that... It's a close race isn't it? What does this there's... Paul, I got it. Okay, so we have the up by one point down by two points now. But this is to me a scam Says that we got the same thing going on over there that we like to pull in this country Which is the media which is always looking for more money? The media unlike no agenda show the media is

1:34:35 is, oh god what's todays thing? Are we getting enough donations... not donation but advertising revenue from the Tories. The Conservatives are way down! Oh well then we better make it look like Labor is winning. This is just bull crap and I'm glad to see that the British are doing the same thing for their public. They've learned something. We take all of their actors, good movies and they take our TV tricks Now, they went on...this is on France 24. They went on discussing with these experts. This is the show it's called Debate. It's quite good and they were talking about the different little parties including UKIP

1:35:18 And this right in the middle, believe me they do not do this. They dropped somebody in their studio control room dropped a sound effect like when he says UKIP there's like an applause somebody turned on you know the laugh meter play this Within the conservative camp The main rival is it the Labour Party or is it these smaller parties most notably? The more far-right leaning UKIP Well, I think the fact is that whoever is leader it's going to be David Cameron or Ed Miliband. No one else can be the leader That's funny they should use our sound for a sound effects though Parliament in there that's better yes, I'm watching this and as that crops up I said wait a minute hold on a second That was funny well It's all slanted in our elections here Hillary is ramping up her team this report. I thought was interesting she hired

1:36:19 A very important person. And this report does two things, first it tells us that she's hired Christina Schacke. Very little information available about Ms. Schacke, S-H-O-C-K-E-Y, Christina Schacke... Adam Brett Does she have a wiki page? John Ligato No! She is the PR handler for or was the PR handler for Michelle Obama And in this report, this is what I kind of liked about it. They do do they announce that this is the Hillary's hired her and then they say and all these things that she set up which now apparently

1:36:55 apparently is common knowledge were fake, phony and bull crap. For Hillary Clinton the building blocks of a presidential campaign are now taking shape she's already putting together a virtual shadow team of advisors most recently adding a former aide to first lady Michelle Obama Christina Schocke is credited with helping soften Mrs. Obama's public image She's the aid behind that undercover shopping trip to Target The First Lady's cameo at the Oscars Even those unforgettable dance moves with Jimmy Fallon Thank you for telling us that Target was fake. Wow! That's good, isn't it? Yeah They don't even realize what they're doing No they don't realize they're revealing to the public that this is bogus And she also hired a former Google executive This is very concerning this flow over from Google and Facebook into politics It's not like these people leave Google and FaceTime and don't know anything or anybody

1:37:52 And it's not like Google and Facebook don't know all of us just as a little example. Yeah, well concerning it is yeah is Concerning and on Facebook as well as Christina Shockey is good enough to pull off some of these real scam ish publicity stunts including the dance move That's unbelievable It is just too KSS kssx 18 it is concerning it is also disconcerting But it is, can it be of concern? What is it? A difference does it make at this point. Concerning is a real word. Disconcerting is a different word. Facebook if you are in the state that has bullying cyberbullying or computer harassment laws and there are I think about 30 of them now these all stem from kids committing suicide

1:38:52 who get lawyers... Howard Baetjer Yeah, not from taking drugs. They're conscribed. Joe Mancini In fact the lawyers that... The lawyers who crop up for these kids usually LGBTQIAP they take their own life and it's all blamed on cyberbullying and not on the drugs that they're on, the antidepressants. And the lawyers that show up as we've documented are often lawyers who also work for the big pharmaceutical corporations. But there is now, and this will fall right under net neutrality, this will fall right under what is lawful content and unlawful content, and this will be eventually at a federal level, this is what net neutrality's all going to bring us, and states I think they'll all fall lockstep right in because they love it! Love regulating everything which reminds me

1:39:40 say again that the FCC regulates the amateur radio airwaves. I'm licensed, I took a test—a test of mainly a technical test but there are some other questions in there and it is foreboding for Bowdoin on the ham amateur radios to do anything of a commercial nature but also vulgarity Can't cuss. Nope! Bulgarity or, um... What's the word? Lassivious language? You can probably drool. Lassivious concepts vulgar languages forboden and

1:40:23 People have been fined up to $20,000 for bringing his mind $20,000 and thank you to net neutrality because the internet is now under the auspices or net nets not quite finished And it hasn't fully been approved. They're headed toward controlling the internet in much the same way. And here's an example of a couple of kids messing around, it was a teenage girl messing around and she lives in Virginia, a cyber bully law state, messing around with some kids and getting in big trouble for it Think twice the next time you text or send an angry message or photo on social media. That's all you need to know right there that is your future of the internet I feel like it's ridiculous because we were all guilty in the same offense 26 year old Kristen Holmes was just arrested accused of harassment by computer and I admit, I was childish and argued as well everybody was arguing

1:41:15 Kristen says she was mistaken for another woman, so she posted this photo with the caption I'll post a few actual pics of me so you know the difference when you quote come find me. Then words were exchanged that we can't say on TV. She had a picture yeah, she had a picture of her but TV is regulated by the FCC. She had a picture of her brandishing a handgun What happened to freedom of speech? And it was just a picture It wasn't a threat and so the next time you go on Facebook remember Holmes admittedly posted ill-conceived things on Facebook and now faces a class 1 misdemeanor that could lead to a year in jail an up to $2,500 fine. Uh huh! And there's no such thing as petty crime, there is no such thing as petty offense Kevin Carroll with the Fraternal Order of Police says according to state code using a computer to send vulgar or indecent language or to threaten illegal or moral acts could get you slapped with the same charge You're arresting someone for using bad words? It's actually against the law to say it in public

1:42:15 Okay, curse and abuse. Curse and abuse is illegal in the state of Virginia? This is well, this is crazy part of disorderly conduct statute that disorderly conduct statute They're just gonna there's more to it if it's against the law to say in the public Why wouldn't be against the law? To say it someone through a computer I thought it was a funny picture and then I realized later that it was a little bit intimidating So I took it down but Holmes ended up in jail because someone shared the Facebook messages with police Who then took out warrants for her arrest the real message here. Be careful what you put on the internet Because you can go to jail for it Facebook thugging is a crime Facebook thugging is a crime Facebook thugging uh-huh there's a show title Remember kids follower so if the rule is that we have to do it, and I'll do it. That's right follow the rules

1:43:05 That's a great. I you know no no, it's not that good It's not good enough your eyes are just like it was just the Facebook Facebook thugging girl goes to jail for just a photo I mean come on headed down in the wrong direction Mm-hmm at least we're identifying its everybody can get ready for it Facebook thuggin Okay, don't do that all you also can threaten and and threatened with an immoral act What? That's what the guy said. You cannot threaten someone with an immoral act. So like, hey! I'm gonna do you

1:43:43 Well, that's gonna be easy Wow is there a newbie female that comes on any one of these like tech shows They have all these guys if you look at the chat room. There just I do her Send the picture talk you send a picture and a photo I'm going to jail. I think I should get a tattoo Facebook thuggin I'm a Facebook thug. Yeah, I'm gonna change my profile picture to Facebook Thug Perfect. It was good. I thought this was interesting This will be, let's go with... I got a bunch of these on weapons. You know Obama has now set the record for allowing most export of weaponry. Yeah we just sold a billion to... Who did we sell a billion to? To Pakistan! A billion dollars worth of stuff. That's spit in the bucket! Well it's just a tip. It's a tip. Play The Weapons Backgrounder plus Iran

1:44:44 What do you think the Iran nuclear deal, if anything, portends for U.S. sales to the Middle East? President Obama is about to call a meeting at Camp David with the leaders of all the Gulf nations. Do you see them exploiting that to call for increased military purchases from the U.S.? Unfortunately yes. I mean, you would think a reduction in tensions should reduce the arms sales but the Saudis have been screaming about the deal saying well your letting Iran off the hook which is not the case and therefore he have to bulk up You know, our armaments which is kind of insane given the amounts that have already gone there. How does the Obama administration spending on military weapons—and is it the Obama administration spending money on military weapons or just allowing the weapons to be sold to these countries? Both. And how does it compare— Both! —to the two terms of the George W. Bush administration? Oh, please. Well, primarily these are sales because the Saudis and others in the Gulf can afford them, with exceptions being aid to Egypt and Israel, which were the biggest recipients of U.S. military aid.

1:45:45 Under Bush, they sold about $30 billion less than the 169 billion of the first five years of Obama. So already in five years he's outsold what Bush did in eight years. And what does this mean for war and the world? I think we're seeing the results now. As they mentioned in a prior segment, Saudi Arabia is using U.S. weapons to bomb Yemen. Civilians have been killed. Egypt is not exactly a democratic regime as we know. Now they've opened sales again to them. They supported dictators for many years prior to Obama which helped on one hand sparked the Arab Spring, but also has armed the counterattacks by places like Egypt and the Saudis—the Saudis going in to crush democracy movement in Bahrain along with the government there. So it's been a force—a negative force for many years, but I think it's spinning out of control now.

1:46:38 Now, we got it now. It really is disconcerting to people like Democracy Now staff when they say Obama's allowed and may managed to sell more in five years so more than any other effect you've played the clip which did she just lose her shit over it? No, they can't deal with it because it's like oh my god what are we gonna do I don't know maybe he should be redeemed a Republican will just blame the Republicans somehow. Yeah and they can't really deal with you play the other clip but the other part of this was besides the outrageous amount is also more Obama's allowed more than five months in any president has

1:47:15 since World War II and probably before that, because I think only maybe during World War II we were spending a lot of money on weaponry. But this is completely out of control and you play the... This is the weapons sale long clip but now I'm going to skip these and let's go to... There's clip after clip of everyone wringing their hands over all those arms that are being sold all over the place to rubbleize the place. And then out of the blue, I picked up this clip which kind of added another dimension. This is the Trans-Pacific Deal clip Arizona State University, ahead of a trip to Asia. Secretary Carter touted the Obama administration's so-called rebalance toward the Asia Pacific region saying it should include both new high end weaponry and the trade deal which covers 40% of the global economy. Carter compared the deal to a new aircraft carrier

1:48:07 We're gonna, we're gonna rubble-ize the entire world if we can get away with it. Ladies and gentlemen! It is time to RUBBLEIZE! Funny I found a clip from former CIA director Woolsey from... when was this? 2006 And it struck me because it sounded so much like the Wes Clark clip the famous Wes Clark 7 which I probably should just play again, because... Just because! So I came back to see him a few weeks later and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. And he said are we still going to war with Iraq? Oh it's worse than that He reached over on his desk and picked up a piece of paper and said I just got this down from upstairs meeting the Secretary Defense Office today This is a memo that describes how we're gonna take out seven countries

1:49:00 in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan and finishing off Iran. Now here's the former CIA director in 2006 with a similar take but a little more... F yeah The problem is not Islam the problem is tyranny And if we convince the decent Muslims of the world, the decent people in the world... The people who are in slavery essentially including in many of these states. that we are on their side, we will ultimately prevail. Just as we did in World Wars I, II and III the Cold War. I didn't know the Cold War was known as a World War 3? Well...I don't think anybody called it that but him! As we do this- close with this We will make people nervous. We will make the Saudi Royal Family nervous. We'll make the Mubarak regime in Egypt nervous

1:50:07 And if we succeed in freeing Iraq and then begin to turn our attention to the Syrians, and the Libyans, and other rogue states. And exert pressure for them to change The Saudi royal family and the Mubarak regime will come to us and they'll say We're very very nervous! And our response should be good. We want you nervous. We want you to realize that now, for the fourth time in a hundred years this country and its allies its democratic allies are on the march we're going to win and we're going to win because we are on the side of those whom these regimes most fear their own people.

1:51:00 That's right everybody. There's the one girl hoping for triple a day I can tell and now I'm not old enough for clues need for rescue mission When the world is threatened, that's right in the world needs help we need to threaten calls on America And that's the story that's the story I don't know what Woolsey's thinking or what he was hoping to achieve or accomplish, but it turns out that the war machine in terms of the people who make weapons is just totally kicking ass. Now, I don't have this clip—I may have it someplace but I don't have it on today's show—the CEO of Lockheed Martin was actually on a conference call

1:51:45 for the shareholders. And I want to remind people, but I keep hearing this on the tech shows...oh, they would last seen there's not that many women in tech and then they name Sheryl Sandberg who is really not a CEO and Melissa. Then that's it? Oh, is it when they always fail to mention the two biggest computer companies or two of the biggest in the world are owned by women. You have Meg Whitman and you have Jeannie, Jeannie Rometty whatever her name is that runs IBM these are women I don't know why they don't count them and then we fail to mention that one of the giant tech companies Lockheed Martin has a woman CEO. That's right! And is GE not a woman now as well?

1:52:27 I don't know. I'm not GM, so General Motors. Oh yeah, General Motors! But let's ignore all that and talk about... maybe plug Sheryl Sandbergs book again. That always amounts to... Anyway she came out and pretty much said that we want to foment trouble because sales will be up until we got a target Asia. So in fact she said almost overtly that they're trying to get more sales into Asia so they gotta make people Nervous like Woolsey did make that point clear. Make them nervous, they buy guns. Yeah no it is really...

1:53:04 Unconscionable. Well, that's exactly what we do make them nervous they buy guns North Korea make them nervous They buy guns South Korea then make everybody nervous a baguette every week joining with North Korea They should have negotiations to reunite the countries They should be doing things like that that are peaceful but no making by more guns It's worse than that as a trade it's worse than that Not only are we selling guns at and weaponry at a crazy rate? What was there? What was the multiple of George Bush? It was a multiple. 30 million or 30 billion more, it wasn't a multiple of 30 billion more in five years versus eight years. So we got three more years to go so it'd probably be double. Well the thing we need to fix right now for really for the American economy I'm just being

1:53:52 practical here, we need to put more money into the military-industrial complex. And this is the sequestration problem which has to end. McCain is trying to end it and he's now part of... He runs the whole war committee whatever that's called. That should be called a war committee. We do the chyron since war committee. The lower third John McCain chief of War Committee So at the Pentagon, they had the NORAD commander talking about our missile defense system. And his message was surprising to me if you listen to it—it's about 1 minute 30 seconds longer than I'd like but and i cut it down from 8

1:54:39 He is pretty much. He says our missile defense system Yeah, it's kind of working but not really because oh I don't know sequestration I own the trigger bitches How about that, huh? I'm the person that owns the trigger just so you know. I'm NORAD, I own the trigger. Isn't it? That's just so cool to say that hey do you want to kill a whole nation? I own the trigger High confidence it'll work not 100% but high confidence It'll work against North Korea

1:55:19 The, you know it was designed to defend against nations that might not be deterred other ways and that would clearly be North Korea. Oh yeah oh yeah clearly. We're very concerned about the mobile nature of the KN08 So the KNO8 doesn't work mobily very well? we have...we lose our ability indications that something might occur and of course the unpredictable nature of the regime that's there. Be with this pleasure squad he's gonna come kill us with his pleasure squad watch out Space Wars anybody Possibly can

1:56:16 And those have to be done concurrently. They're not sequentially, they all have to put in place." You know what this is leading up too? I think we need some more money for this because we're not safe! What? Money, We need money. We're not safe! "...that he needs to go after his... you know when it comes to ballistic missile defense..." The wrong side of the cost curve oh my goodness Keep them on the rail I

1:56:55 just after that and not just rely on the mid-course phase where we are today. And thats why its of importance, you know, the effects of sequestration will be pretty hard on missile defense agency when it comes to sequestration Is that like a debit card or something and readiness account so you can just access that to buy more stuff I

1:57:31 I could use one of those cards. Key technologies. Oh no! I want my advance kill vehicle, we should have a couple of those ready for the crazy North Koreans. Give them to the white police officers All right, this came along with a 60 minute 60 minutes piece on Johnson I don't know if you caught that on the Sunday Johnson. I'd miss Johnson so Johnson and then I learned a lot about Johnson He is a very very frightening individual

1:58:17 And I thought... It's like a teddy bear. That's what I thought too, it was like oh he's just saying you guys kind of like that Colin Powell look to him a little bit you know what i mean? Like now I can't really do anything yeah because he might lie to the American people but he's not gonna- He's not really a scary guy who actually kills people Do you know his background without peeking? He's a lawyer! I'll give you a hint he's a lawyer. Murderer. Yes you are correct we don't even have to play the clips So I pulled a couple of clips, short ones all of them from this and the woman who did the interview was... what's her name? She has a completely rebuilt face.

1:58:54 And her eyes are too close together and her nose is all pinched up. What's that girl, what was the woman's name? Sustren! No no on 60 Minutes?! Oh I know 60 minutes um she's older i'll just put it that way oh the blonde yes that one yeah oh yeah Her Leslie Stahl... That's the one Yeah She made a real easy on him but she got out some good things in some good quotes this is uh talking about of course radicalized children Because it's everywhere. It's rampant the social media expertise of ISIS, ISIL IS advertising whatever you want to call them is so above all norms that kids are just they're romanticized by it They love it. It's happening everywhere The FBI says it has a homegrown extremist investigations going on in every single state How serious how serious? Is this threat is at hair-on fire yeah

1:59:51 Hair on fire. I don't know this, uh... This is new to me hair on fire The serious threat Hair on fire Every state? I certainly do not believe in the hair-on-fire phenomenon But every state? That means it's percolating everywhere We have investigations and every state does not surprise me No We are very concerned about young people romanticizing Group like ISIL and so we've got to keep tabs on it all. Yeah, and what do we have to keep tabs on? Well We know where air hair but what is the typical profile of a self radicalized person in the United States Facebook user in the basement this kid is sitting in his basement or her basement It could be it could be a her but they're in the basement So parents right now go downstairs and make sure your kid isn't reading

2:00:47 The radicalized websites. And reading the web? Web, reading the web! What are you doing today? Reading the web I'm gonna go read the web for a little bit maybe Hey this is 60 minutes people Journalistic Reading the web and being radicalized How on earth It's so simple Read the web be radicalized It's a bumper sticker Read the web Be Radicalized The web and being radicalized How on earth can you keep a tab on that person? That's the challenge, isn't it. And what should we do? What should we do? How do we do this? There is only one thing to do! What will Jid Johnson want us to do? Kill! Rat on each other! And that's one of the things that frankly keeps me up at night because we would have little or no notice

2:01:41 if somebody decides to commit an act of violence. So, if the family member, the religious leader, the teacher trusts us enough to inform us... We're in a position to make a difference. Yes, the Department of Homeland Security wants you the public to call in It's part of a new push to deal with the lone wolf threat Johnson himself reaching out to build trust with local leaders. I If you see something, say something. Can I ask a question here? Yes of course! Have we been having a lot of bombings and uh... I mean there's a Boston thing that took place like what five years ago but since 9-11 has there been a lot of bombings and suicide bombers No no no no no because every 34 days according to the report

2:02:37 Every 34 days, which is almost six weeks. It's a little short but that's an average it's an average every thirty four days the FBI stops Self-radicalized people from planning and implementing some horrible thing Some atrocity aren't they involved in setting these things up themselves? Yes, they are yes I will get to that in a moment. That should mention not right did Johnson je HG He pronounces it J, but it's Jeh. Jeh Johnson is the head of the Department of Homeland Security and he is getting a lot of kudos for shaping up morale. Of course, it was run by horrible people

2:03:21 Janet Napolitano and they were discriminating against men. Gang of lesbians, let's be honest about it! I'm sorry a gang of lesbians was running the Department of Homeland Security making men put their desks in the bathroom to humiliate them. Hey you didn't say they were without humor? Yeah well i think it's funny...I like the idea but it got a big kick out of this is where we learn what Jeh Johnson did before He was the director of the Department of Homeland Security. I did not know this! If it was a strike off what we call the hot battlefield... This is about drone strikes and in particular Anwar al-Awlaki In other words, outside Iraq and Afghanistan by the military then

2:04:11 I would have to give the legal sign off first. So he was the lawyer, the lawyer who would determine if a person could be killed by drone? Did you know that? You know, I don't know why I didn't know it and maybe I did know it but I don't think I knew it. I don't think so... But that's a disgusting job! He is the guy behind It's OK to Kill Americans and he's heading up Homeland Security? Yes! Listen further! Out of Iraq and Afghanistan by the military then I would have to give the legal sign-off first. And so, I did that At one point you had to decide whether it was okay to kill an American. Milwaukee In any use of targeted lethal force we'd have to conclude that it was consistent with domestic law and international law

2:05:04 Did you say it was not legal? By the way, he just slips that in there. To kill an American it has to be legal by domestic law and international law. When does international law tell our administration or our elected officials that its okay to kill Americans? I don't think international law should have any part of that. He put that in there for a specific reason. With domestic law and international law Did you say it was not legal many times? Occasionally I would have to conclude. Once in a while, my God! Oh damn! Why doesn't he just say no i never did that Sorry for taking the Lord's name in vain but That's crazy That the legal authority was not there and quickly found out

2:05:51 that it was actually easier to say yes than it was to say no. Well of course, its much more fun that way! What is he saying? He said its easier... Its easier to kill somebody then like oh maybe we shouldn't kill them did she wait a minute let me guess because were listening to the 60 minutes show its really famous show Famous famous The next question she asks I can predict yeah I can predict the next question she asks And how did you manage to sign off on killing a 16 year old boy? Oh man, John. An American citizen, 16 years old has nothing to do with anything sitting at a cafe drinking coffee with his pals You must be from the future Yeah But not this future because no she didn't ask that of course not What?!

2:06:40 that it was actually easier to say yes than it was to say no. Why is it easier to say yes? Very often when we're asked to approve the use of targeted lethal force, It can only be in a matter of minutes and so there's a lot of momentum to that Yeah hurry up! Hurry up! We need an answer! But I'm looking through the rule book hold on a second... Might order another cup of coffee or he might leave the cafe So to say no is like stepping in front of a 90 car freight train. Oh, there's your answer John! He can't say no because... He's the man of principle he has his things for himself Yes it sounds so nice It sounds like he just a stooge in a pushover The first time you said yes You have said Sounds like they're talking about anal sex or something I don't know its very disgusting The first time you said yes was like being in front of a freight train That you were

2:07:38 Very uncomfortable. Yes, how could somebody be comfortable with authorizing legally the use of legal force? My view is if you become comfortable with it then you should get out of the job What you actually said was if I were Catholic I would have to go to confession Yes, he's a murderer. Yeah, I said at the beginning of this segment. I know you were right Let me finish this let me finish it did it get easier Did it get easier?

2:08:16 That's a good question. I think that that's humorous by the way did it get easier to kill people? No, no never got easier Never are you sure are you sure he said it was easier to say yes than no Yeah But they get easier than that where didn't just blink blink once for yes Oh, but there has been so often a collateral what they call collateral damage meaning that innocence Get killed yeah like yeah You screw them That happens in war. Does it haunt you? I don't know if i like the word haunt but... It tickles me, tickles my fancy or gives me butterflies in my tummy You have to be sensitive to the notion that the judgments we make today could be condemned on the pages of history

2:09:04 Years from now so he it doesn't bother him that he is issuing commands to kill people He's bothered that. He'll look bad in the history books. Yeah, what a dick And his term he ends in 2016 is he's only There for this year and I want to hire him. I want to hire him okay Special guest on our Yes, Jeff. Come on down! Well he's an interesting character you're right you caught me off guard I did not expect to hear that he was the guy who signed off under legal ramifications of killing a 16 year old boy in a cafe as American citizen Within minutes

2:10:02 Within minutes. Yeah, it's easier to say yes than no what it was easier to do was to say let me see What the number is on my paycheck? Oh yeah, so a lot easier to say little yes I have y'all won't even be working for the government if I say no man hey, I see you have an Al Shabaab Kenya thing Can we can we do that? It's a rap clip. We haven't been covering it... Well, the only reason I want to do it is because have a jingle for it That's all Oh you want to play the jingle after the rap- after the clip? After the clip yeah. It's a rap clip and so it's one of those clips that is a generalized clip that explains what's going on Because we don't-it's one of the things that we have not covered

2:10:48 Yet and people always complain. I'm coming you didn't talk about that so I wanted to talk about this okay So there it is and one of our jingle makers sent in a jingle because he said secret agent Paul who's done? A lot of great jingles for us, he said You know, this is going to come up. You guys got to be talking about this." Kenya's launched another round of airstrikes in Somalia targeting the militant group al-Shabaab after it claimed responsibility for the massacre of 148 people—mainly Christian students—at Kenya's Garisa University College. Kenyan authorities say they destroyed two al-Shabaab camps Monday, but a resident told The Associated Press the strikes appeared to hit grassland used to graze animals.

2:11:30 It's cute. He could have carried it out! I think he should've gone all the way, Shabob to the end right? Yeah well yeah that's very- yeah he could extend that clip. He'll do a remix. It's cute. Got the nice you know its an old 50s doo wop. Shaboom shaboom. Yeah shaboom shaboom is his original song. Classic. Nice! I love our jingle makers. Not only do i love- By the minute we got so many jingles now that Adam can't even find half of them. No, actually no...I have to say if you've noticed it but you can just name something and I'll give it a shot because I have a new system It's all good to go. Name something Water shortage

2:12:18 Water shortage? Okay, I have a watermelon. We don't have water shor- we don't have water shortage clips. Oh but like... Something, something that we did. How about a clip that sounds like the Beatles introducing our donation segment? Oh let me see if I can find that one. All right, we do have some people to thank for show 711 lucky show. 7-Eleven! And how many people you think came in with a 7-Eleven donation? I would think zero John Knowles didn't he came in with $111 and 11 cents one of our classic donations from Murfreesboro Tennessee's Sir John Knowles I believe named Tanya Foster

2:13:18 who awaited us, we went to her restaurant. I was gonna say for your birthday did she... Yep! Nice! She was there and gave me a big hug. And she was there in fact JC and his wife won't even go to this restaurants if anyone in Berkeley or in the Berkeley area East Bay you want to go to a very interesting experimental restaurant that has It's called CORSO, C-O-R-S-O. And Dame Tanya Foster works there as a waitress which means she is also an actress. So demeaning of you! It's a fact. You can almost say he is a waiter and a podcaster. I mean... That's very similar. Very similar. Anyway she gave us $100 in Richmond California so we have to give her bigger tips now which

2:14:05 Anyway, she is she was there. She's bubbly and the whole thing it's a great place to good dinner I brought him magnum of champagne mmm And made sure she had some so you didn't have to pay the cork fee you mean yeah That's one of the old tricks. It works in 90% of the cases for people out there who like corkage because they love money. Ladies and gentlemen, hold on a second here is a tip, a John C. Dvorak money saving tip. Money saving tip? If you have a bottle of fancy wine that you want to bring to a restaurant... This is not something that exists in Europe by the way this I think exclusively an American thing

2:14:48 Could be. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, but I think it might be. Cork fee? Explain cork fee. Canada may or may not have it. I'm not sure what... It's called corkage and the corkage fee pays for the glasses, the cleaning of the glasses and the... If you bring your own alcohol. You bring your own bottle B-Y-O-B so you bring a bottle wine and it should be a bottle of something special if you're gonna do it at all. You don't bring a cheap bottle to this corkage. And the corkage fees anywhere from 10 to 25, I've seen higher. Sometimes I think the French laundry would be like 50, because they don't want you doing it. And you bring the corkage in and then you... make sure that the waiter has it... First, you have to know about the wine. You just tell the waiter this is a great wine and you should have some and make sure they bring your glass out. Try to pour it yourself because although Tanya pours a short pour for herself I've seen guys pour like half of glass of wine into their glasses taste it. But this was a magnum champagne so? This is a magnum champagne there's plenty of wine And uh.. Have them taste it and then maybe discuss with them for second if you have anything to say

2:15:49 And then you rarely get charged the corkage fee. Rarely. Nice, ladies and gentlemen another money saving tip from John C. Dvorak where the c stands for cash also coming in on show 7-11 is Dame Astrid the Duchess of Japan. Ero In Tokyo she says best wishes for your birthday John hope you become a hundred years old at least we cannot do without your fountain of knowledge such as this money saving tip Just imagine all those noodle kids, she says. Thank you Dame Astrid. Duchess of Yapan Sandy Block in Rancho Santa Fe California 7777 Keep the sanity coming! Yes I have two interviews on Friday Job Karma please look at that at the end

2:16:30 We actually have some...Jamie also needs a job, can't put that at the end. Howard Abraham Rochester Minnesota 7711, that's kind of close and then we have now I looked up a million ways to pronounce this name and there is a Danish pronunciation as Sean Uh, Kersgaard. No! No no no no. So- Sorin? Sorin? No. No. Sorin KERSGARD. NO! SORIN KERSGAARD. No it's KERSGARN. It there you know D is not pronounced and it's not pronounced sorin it's Sean I'll send you the four vote pronunciations I've listened to this a million times Hey John... I was gonna send that to ya because I knew we were going to debate the pronunciation. John, it's okay

2:17:10 You can know Huffy. He challenged me, he sent a note you can't pronounce my name and I get the biggest kick out of it! So i'm gonna say Søren Kersgaard Okay you can say whatever you want And your saying what? Sean Kersgaard Right, Sören Penn Uh, Sir Brian... Wait a minute. He has a 70-70 7373 which means we gotta do that. Right actually I thought I put his call sign in there. I don't have it. He says in honor of my sister and husband like some jobs karma she likes to learn whether she has a job cutbacks and he recently relocated then decided didn't like the new place thus reverted to his previous job all in one month In a couple of seventy three got a 73 so And we also have 73's from good old Sir Brian Greene of Harris?

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2:20:47 One, two, three... Oh and also I have to mention because everyone demands that I mention but it's under 50 so i can't say his name. But a guy let's see where it is? Is it Hislop or another guy they gave $22.22 I believe since Mr. Hislop Facebook donation! Ah this is the one where they want to make someone from the Facebook pleasure group a knight Yes Or Dame Right. Okay, how's that coming along? Well they got it to get in there and Mimi is running the show I'm telling you she's not running the show You're not on Facebook. I see what she's doing well. I told her that She says she's not running this so citizen X is more or less behind it and she's just maintaining Decorum okay, that's what its called got it all right

2:21:42 That's called the Dvorak syndrome. It is a no agenda Facebook group that is about the show and it has like 3,000 members and they're gonna donate every so often whenever they can For people who have the Facebook There's one of the I think she's a new CJ. I think is her name and she's new and She makes it some pieces cranking out no agenda stuff Oh, yeah buttons and shirts and jewelry And you know clothing yes, and it's good-looking stuff buttons I don't know I don't even think she's selling it yet But she keeps putting up pictures like wow that I'd actually like to have that that's pretty good looking. No, she'll get it This is gonna put send you something else. You're gonna put it on sale. I'll buy something from this Is what she does for living?

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2:24:05 Thank you all that's a plus. Thank you all so much. We got the common core report for this show Oh, we need I wasn't ready for that when your common core jingle then right do it well? Yeah, we do have a common core jingle now. Let me call or whatever no It doesn't go anything like that yes common core common core everybody likes to come where two plus three is approximately four in the Common Core Yeah, yeah, we're gonna go right into it. Jazzy Pardon the interruption at this time. Is this a nine-year old kid? No, no! This is a woman who was hired as the Common Core Coordinator in this school and when they do the testing she goes on the PA system so it sounds like you're in communist China Or in jail And now we're in jail and she announces this then she follows up and talks a little bit like a uptalker and they discusses with her and the little girl made these comments that people said oh she's a phony blah

2:25:06 And she predicted that there would be computer glitches and this clip confirms it. Pardon the interruption, at this time all 7th grade testing groups should begin testing. It's test time. Testing coordinator Brittany Ogden spent the day making sure children could log in When you are the testing coordinator you do a lot of moving around the building so for instance today I've already taken 15 thousand steps While it went fairly smoothly, the first day was stressful. There were lots of computer glitches. Just being unfamiliar with how long it would take students to get into their personal locations How long it would take us to read directions and so everything kind of got pushed back we had to alter our schedule

2:25:50 And I think just overall students and staff being nervous. Nervous... That's it? Glitches! She took 15,000 steps she said one of those dimwits that thinks that this is an important fact when she's being interviewed. Fifteen thousand because she has a pedometer on her feet No this is native advertising for the Apple Watch clearly No, because they after they did this may have been native advertising for something. Because when she said 15000 steps the camera took a shot of her feet. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Oh that's genius.

2:26:34 Let's see, let's talk...let's go to Euroland for a moment. We haven't been there during today's show yet. Okay? I have one Euroland clip. I have two Euroland clips both about Greece and today is the day that Greece would no longer have any more money and there was a fun little meeting the Prime Minister of Greek Greek. The prime minister of Greek land went over to Putin land and they had a little conversation, of course everyone is like oh what is he gonna do? What's gonna happen? What's Russia gonna do? All eyes are on the Kremlin to see what transpires in a controversial meeting between the Greek and Russian leaders. The Greek Prime Minister insisting that he has not asked Moscow for any money to help meet debt repayments saying he wants to work within the framework of the European Union

2:27:25 Alexa Tsipras today laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier in Moscow. Eyebrows were raised this week when Russian media hinted that President Putin may offer gas discounts and even new loans to Greece A Russian minister has also said that Athens could be removed from Moscow's ban on Western food imports This led to a warning from the European Parliament president to Greece to stick to the EU position on sanctions against Russia. I found this, this was actually interesting because we've talked about... Wait wait! Yes? What was it specifically? I couldn't hear it The food import ban you couldn't hear any of that No I heard that but didn't understand what he said what food specifically Ah, the Russian food import ban as part of the... He said a product like olives or something

2:28:19 I don't think he said that. Oh, no... I thought he was going to say some specific thing? No, I don't think so. This is the problem as we know that tomato growers are not only receiving subsidy from the European Union for the losses they make by not shipping it to Russia but they're also shipping it to Turkey having a relabeled and then selling it to Russia. That works! But this is an interesting point. Now you're really seeing what harm these sanctions are doing, of course not just to Russia but to other countries as well. But none of this really matters because the Greeks they have a plan up their sleeve. They quid pro quo so to speak it's about 240 billion I think that they have to pay back

2:29:07 How are they supposed to pay anything back when they're prevented from trading, free trading with the Russians who they trade with? That would be the logical question to ask. Their answer is we'll just get it from the Germans! Well this is the thorniest of thorny issues Greece's demanding reparations for the actions of Nazi Germany in Greece during World War II. The figure that They've put on the amount that's owed to them is a whopping €278.7 billion. Now, this isn't the first time that reparations have been discussed. Greek governments have done it in the past. But what's different about this is, Al-Sharif have actually put a figure on it finally. Numbers hadn't been talked about but Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras had set a parliamentary committee to work

2:29:56 to come up with the figures, and that's the number they've come back with. Now included in this 200 – well nearly 279 billion euros is a 10.3 billion euro occupation loan. Now that's a loan Greek banks were forced to give to Nazis during World War II. They want it back. It's estimated just being over ten billion euros. There are also costs of repatriating stolen archaeological treasures that were taken from Greece and brought to Germany. All of those things, well the Greek parliament saying adds up to I say around 279 billion that they want back it's worth mentioning the Greece has taken 240 billion euro so far in bailouts they would actually be in the black on this deal if it ever went through

2:30:45 I like this. I like the idea. Oh, they're tricky. Damn, those Greeks! I tell ya. Tricky Dicky. Germans must be beside themselves. I don't think Engel is really happy. Hey man, here's 250 billion. Okay thanks by the way you know you really owe us 250 billion and my bike. Yeah not true I thought that was nifty. That was very, very creative. I like it. Nifty man! This story will never end of course. Well we'll see what happens this is the week it's supposed to be very interesting and of course the Mediterranean strategy that Putin has which includes Syria obviously and Cyprus let's remember that they have this they have the port in Cyprus yeah let's just get Greece and I'm pretty sure the Russians will buy more infrastructure um Greece has their

2:31:39 I think they have LNG terminals, and they have a refinery. They've got all kinds of stuff for oil and all that will be sold on the cheap so we'll see what happens." I like it but i only have one story from Europe and there's really nothing to comment too much on...I just thought was fascinating which is the outrageous robbery Police in Britain have launched a manhunt and a jewelry heist of epic proportions. Over Easter weekend, a gang of thieves stole up to $300 million dollars in cash and gems from a central repository Jane Deeth of Independent Television News reports All day people slipped through the black doors looking for their gold and

2:32:19 gold and diamonds, watches and rings. Hatton Garden safe deposit is where London puts its bling for safekeeping. Now millions of it is gone. Thieves in an out before security guards twigged. They should have had extra security especially over the Easter holiday But how did the robbers get in? A lot of attention and speculation has focused on the roof. It's thought they abseiled down the lift shaft to the vaults in the basement. Police say they used heavy cutting equipment to get inside, it is possible that spent the whole Easter weekend there. The police weren't called until Tuesday morning

2:32:59 Apparently the alarm did go off on Friday. It's been suggested a security guard checked the front door but no one checked inside This vault has been hit before in 1975 by armed robbers They got away with loot worth £1 million pounds This time it will be a lot, lot more If the diamond merchants have been broken into and goods were stolen, then we will be talking about individual boxes containing millions of pounds worth of stock. Here they believe the valuables was stolen to order and that the gang in their bounty are longer The robbery could turn out to be the largest in British history

2:33:43 Nice yeah, good work 300 million well you can do a podcast or you can do that Well just an idea. You have to be pretty talented to do that Yeah Yemen is I guess I am I got a cool little list here of the the world's eight oil choke points, which gives you a little context around... Nice. Yeah it's a cool little map of the... It was kind of what Rubicon ended up being about, their little 13-week canceled show that was on AMC and then it was on Amazon and now you can't get it! Oh no, of course not but so here are the choke points

2:34:27 This is interesting, you might want to get your map. We kind of know this John but just for everybody else... The top choke points the number one choke point as in where ships move oil is the Strait of Hormuz which of course is that little piece between Oman on one side and Iran on the other side. We've got the South Pars fields over there, and that's obviously in the Gulf of Oman. 17 million barrels of oil per day pass through that. Number two is the one I've always had my eye on it's the Strait of Malacca. And we're really big in the region. We moved our warship in there for the horrible

2:35:10 Was it was a hurricane? It wasn't a hurricane. It was the big storm, yeah big storm over there and of course we have a lot of... We positioned a lot of assets when we were looking for MH17. We put them all in the Straits of Malacca so we've got our big ships there The Cape of Good Hope 4.9 million barrels of oil a day Then we've got the Danish Straits, the Suez Canal But if you look way up at the top what is the number one Number one is the... Is there by Aden, the Gulf of Aden. Oh where Stargate is? The star gate is there and we now not besides the Star Gate I guess waiting for it to open We have Chinese Navy vessels Iranian ships everybody's in in the in the Gulf of Aden And then of course is because of the Yemen problems the Yemeni problems. We can't have that

2:36:10 that choke point cut off by anybody. And I, being from the future, think we might see some interesting things happening with all of those different warships that were there for sure right across the bay or the gulf there, the strait... We've got Djibouti and so we've got our eyes in the sky and it's fascinating to watch these things kind of see how it all comes together Not much mention of that in any news lately. We just talked about these and nobody cares, but choke What we do need to care about is You don't even know who Snowden is apparently no the Boston bomber trial ended Yes guilty as charged all 30 points now as we discussed The Sarnoff brothers lawyer

2:37:02 is her entire claim, and she's an appointed lawyer. He's not paying for it. It's pro bono. Yeah. And she's doing the job of an appointed lawyer? No, she's not bailing out yet while her claim to fame is getting people off the death penalty and into life imprisonment. This is what she does, this is why you hire her." He's famous for this... Right, she doesn't have anything to do with getting him off on the charges. Well if she was then she did a bad job because he convicted 30 counts of...30 counts he was convicted on. We've talked about this too in extreme but by the way I'm predicting suicide

2:37:44 Let's listen to Judge Napolitano, who used to have a great show over there on Fox. He got a little too close to being good and so they only bring him in once in awhile Here is his overview of the situation. You know the persistence of the guilty verdict shows a consistent thinking on the part of jury and it somewhat of window into the jury's thinking with respect to the penalty phase. But the penalty phase trial will be radically different from, uh... the trial that just ended in a trial that just ended as brilliant and terrific as his chief counsel is She didn't intercede very much, she presented next to no evidence and she pretty much let the government run with the ball. You'll see an entirely different trial now where she will attempt to control what goes on in the courtroom by focusing in on his personal culpability, his personal duress, as she will argue subservience to his brother.

2:38:38 Those issues were explored in the first trial, but the jury was not compelled to rule on them and she didn't present substantial evidence about it. Absolutely! And she will do so now. Yeah of course because she didn't care this is an egomaniac this woman Didn't ask any of the right questions for instance a question would be hey that video that this entire trial was based on you know The one where you see him put the backpack into the trash can why don't you show that to us? Conspicuously missing from any conversation whatsoever about this trial. and that is, uh...and your great journalists are have seemed to have developed amnesia about this as well. NPR on the other hand brought out—and this was surprising to me—Masha Gessen she has written a book called The Brothers now The Brothers of course they had ties to Chechnya um and being radicalized and being part of the Chechen terrorists Masha Gessen is a famous Putin hater

2:39:38 famous Putin hater and she popped up a lot on the show as well when Putin started to hate gays. You remember those days? Putin used to hate gays. I think he still hates gays. PUTIN! He still hate gays? Gays and dogs, all kinds of stuff. And dogs, those terrible dogs So they brought her out for this interview on Fresh Air with Terry Gross. So tell me what is a self-radicalization The defense is saying that Johar was following his brother Tamerlan but unlike his brother Johar was not a self radicalized terrorist What does the expression self radicalized mean Oh finally

2:40:18 Finally we get an answer. It's interesting, it comes from Masha Gessen. Nobody knows! Oh... Wait a minute... Wait a minute what is going on with the how- I don't understand how that can be? I'm shocked! Shocked to find harmonica playing going on in here Yes Stop this show you'll get Clip of the Day finally Finally he makes clip of the day ladies and gentlemen yes! It's just, it's the only correct answer ladies and gentlemen. Nobody knows what self-radicalized means and that's one of the weird things about the way that we talk about terrorism We talk about radicalization as though it were a thing As though you could sort of track it And identify it...and that's not the case Then we've added this other layer which is self-radicalization Originally radicalization was supposed to mean there was an organization That took you through stages

2:41:14 And then when it turned out that some people just came to terrorism by themselves, this new thing called self-radicalization showed up. No one knows what it means." Fantastic! Well at least she's telling the truth. We don't know what it means although Jeh Johnson thinks it's somebody who was in their basement reading the web and then you're self radicalized. Here is... I think there's something else going on with a guy reading the web in his basement Very good. Here is Masha now about the US justice system, so since you covered the trial we read there Throughout the trial this by the way for a good question I've been in and out of Boston doesn't that qualify? No you weren't there what's your analysis of the trial do you think that the prosecution and the defense did a good job Did you learn what you hoped to

2:42:11 Oh, those are two very different questions because I think that the prosecution and defense have been doing it first. Give her the hook! They are amazing. It's absolutely...I've covered a lot of trials and it's absolutely the best tried trial I've ever seen in my life. Even though she didn't cover it? Even though she wasn't there, she was in and out of Boston. Best trial ever. Wait, no defense was put up for this guy at all. And this is somehow... What is she? Advocate of kangaroo courts? Yes! Kangaroo court ever that got in there with the mayor. The choice of witnesses served the dramaturgy, the timing of the prosecution's case was unbelievably good but it is not

2:42:57 Structurally, it's not the role of the American justice system to find the truth. Hey lady you're living here by the graces of the American public letting you be here on your green card Whatever you are careful with what you say the American justice system administers punishment It does not conduct inquests and it does not It does not find facts. So we were hoping, I mean those of us who have been interested in the case that's a lot of us... We were hoping that some facts would emerge from the trial. That as the FBI presented its case for the prosecution, we would learn things that were conspicuously absent from it. Yeah like a normal trial? Like defense?

2:43:48 There were some gaping holes in our knowledge. One of them is where and when were the bombs made? The FBI agents who testified at the trial admitted that they don't know where the bombs were made. If they don't know where the bombs were made, that also means that they don't if anybody else was involved in the bombings. This is fresh air, I'm Terry Gross. Thank you Terry Gross. Well and this kind of falls into just briefly the six-week cycle and JW one of our producers he said oh man that think you really need to look at the full complaint against those two crazy women that the FBI got because they were going to blow something up

2:44:40 This is in regards to the anarchist cookbook. If you read, and I put it in the show notes of course for you to read at your leisure, its about 29 pages The FBI agent actually gave these women the anarchist cookbook What? Yes. So they had an undercover cop, of course it was honeypotting them trapping them and entrapped them. And then give him the cookbook and said look they had this cookbook! Yep yep Holy crap that's disgusting Here we go FBI agent found any discussion regarding protests electricity chemistry propane or cookware as highly suspicious

2:45:22 It's because they were just talking about propane and... Oh yeah, got a new can of propane for the outside barbecue. You know us? I mean they're probably doing kebabs! What's interesting is that none of those actual conversations were recorded by the FBI but it is his testimony from these special occasions. So we just take it out of context. Yes and the pressure cooker which they had This Valenzas, one of these women. She received the gift The pressure cooker as a gift from someone and here it is the undercover officer explains she quote Joked about cooking something in the pressure cooker then laughed and added food Which is of course a reference to explosive material Code for a bomb

2:46:17 The word food is hereby outlawed. Do not mention... Oh, don't say the F-word man! Wow get away with this of course they get away with it because nobody cares no the media doesn't care nobody follows up is too much work to read this document I know let's just go along what they tell us to say because we have you know it was about six o'clock happy hour yeah I know It's just disgusting that nobody says, hold on this is out of order what you're doing. And along with this comes a 34 day cycle. The Anarchist Cookbook the anecdote is the war- That's outrageous! Yeah he gave it to her Hey you know you looking for some material? Read this! This is good Oh she has a copy of The Anarchist Cookbook oh no we can't have that! My phone shmye phone

2:47:12 Yay, I got a little tech news for you John. Yeah we're going to our third hour that's right no We're not when I warn the affiliates No don't warn any affiliates we have to warn the listeners That's all we have to do Less than 10 minutes ago! That's right ten minutes to go in the Tech News segment today a Retraction from The Best Podcast In The Universe oh we made a mistake an error? I made an error And it has been pointed out to me, and I apologize profusely for this. Yeah? Um...I mentioned a couple of different apps that had some secure communication capabilities. Yes! I mentioned two the one i'm using with Void Zero is called Signal and that is indeed a safe app Okay You and I talked about the Telegram app and actually called it an outstanding product and we could not have been more wrong Oh well you're the one that I didn't-you don't use We in this context

2:48:07 Well, if Snowden can do it I can do it. We have a mouse in your pocket? Yeah we got several different emails from dudes named Ben, Bill and Osaka... Okay, I'm pulling it off my end right now. You should pull it off right now! So the one that's good is Signal? Signal yes And telegraph is no good because they rolled their own crypto for this. And the first rule of cryptography is don't roll your own crypto! Why not? Because it's said, It's not the open source crypto like everyone uses its own crypto, their own secret crypto This cannot be even Steve Gibson warned about Telegram and if Steve Gibson's gonna warn us about it I'm all in with Steve

2:48:54 Well, he tends to be right. He does know about this stuff. Oh yes. So please do not use that product This is a public service announcement. The best podcast in the universe! Kicker for me, and I didn't know he was involved in it... We have this pedo bear scandal Prince Andrew Bill Clinton Oh yeah damnit I almost had a clip for that too Yeah I got a clip that just blew me away Okay, Alan Dershowitz is also yes implicated in this. Yes He was being grilled by Matt By the way over the years I've appreciate Matt Lauer more and more you know I know Matt Lauer when he worked at vh1 yeah And he's a dick yeah kind of but I don't say that He's not a dick okay? But I appreciate him. I think he does a reasonably good job

2:49:53 And so what's it? So Alan Dershowitz has been implicated in this. Is this the guy who had the house on the island and was flying everybody in, and they're all banging underage hookers? Clinton and a bunch of rich guys... They were all flying back and forth to this island with his douchebag who apparently had a bunch of underage women there. Hookers! hookers underage cookers and They're all having the time of their lives and now Dershowitz got called out by one of them And he says bullshit anything goes on it even seemed sincere well When you have a little clip where he says I put an affidavit affidavit against the truth, right? Wow You know you have done some horrible things to me in the past this has gotta be. I mean I don't know why you do that Why would you take my thunder oh?

2:50:40 You've done this to me. Let's talk about what this judge says and does not say, okay? The judge says that the claims made by Jane Doe number three against you and Prince Andrew and others are not material to the case that they are trying to join against the US government What the judge does not say is whether the claims made by Jane Doe number three are true or untrue Having said that what your reaction well I feel completely legally vindicated we filed a motion asking him to strike these claims as irrelevant and improperly put in the lawsuit. He can't determine whether it's true or not, he hasn't heard evidence he hasn't heard witnesses I've submitted a sworn affidavit categorically denying the truth there will be an opportunity for us now... It just doesn't.. it's not good that you ruined it No,no I improved because it allowed people to anticipate and spot the blunder

2:51:34 Okay, well you know how that was a terrible blunder he made I don't know and then I watched the whole thing with that in mind because he went on and on And never stopped talking. And I'm I don't know I don't know what happened The whole thing seems sketchy and but I don't know why Durst which would be there in the first place the whole thing honestly He says he was legally vindicated too. He never said he was vindicated. Oh yeah, oh yeah, legally of course! Well I have the whole interview in there but it's... Yeah you play it really good No no I'm not gonna play it It's not funny now You ruined it First you scolded yourself that that you didn't clip and then you ruin my clip I'm sorry Okay That will never happen again ever I'm okay then I'm okay now I'm good

2:52:24 Matt and Marie, no. It's not all that funny. No, Matt and Marie is got...is no good. Yeah they had a little kerfuffle back-and-forth about this op ed that Kissinger and George Shultz wrote in the Wall Street Journal which by the way people do not send me links to The Wall Street Journal. Stek does a good job he sends me... I guess because you can thank ME for that! Thank You Stek used to send me these links. I said, I can't read the Wall Street Journal They won't have to subscribe or something clip it Yeah So he clips it and then sends it right but people all over the place are saying yeah check out this article The Wall Street Journal I can't they can't like oh you can if you go to The Wall Street Journal more than once that you can't go on again the New York Times is similar in fact It should be with all things if you want to send something Clip it its cut-and-paste there you go Chicago med

2:53:14 This is a new show to pilot? Oh no, I haven't seen this. Chicago Med yes! Yes this is what's the guy's name who does all those shows? Dick Wolf. Uh, Chicago Med. Featuring a terrorist with a hand grenade in the uh... In the emergency room. If you're here because of the ammonia leak I'm gonna need you on this side of the room- It's an ammonia leak, you see? When i say so! If your here because of the flu or something non life threatening I'm gonna- Sir not yet! I need everyone- You thought Ebola was a nightmare?! I AM THE APOCALYPSE! AHHHHHH!!! Except for all Americans! Your all dead in two weeks! SHH! NO NO!

2:53:54 I love it. So we got the woman's scream right at the end, that was dubbed in. Yeah so we got Ebola he was yelling about Ebola being real and then he threw in a great Allah Akbar did ended with a hand grenade there and... Man now feel bad I missed this show Play this last clip of mine because I don't know what it is. Okay foundation for a secure and prosperous America, which is a group It's a pressure group that had some spokesperson on talking about something but I don't remember the Senate is tough new sanctions on Iran President Obama you need to talk about stop

2:54:40 This, you have to play it from the beginning. Rand Paul rolls out his presidency... I'm gonna run for president! Within minutes this group called Americans for a Secure and Prosperous America ran a campaign anti-Rand Paul campaign ad out of the blue just boom! Magical how that happens isn't it? The Senate is tough new sanctions on Iran President Obama says he'll veto them and Rand Paul is standing with him. Rand Paul supports Obama's negotiations with Iran, and he doesn't understand the threat. You know it's ridiculous to think that they're a threat to our national security. Rand Paul is wrong...and dangerous. Tell him just stop siding with Obama because even one Iranian would be a disaster. Disaster! It's good I like that

2:55:30 Who comes up with these stupid ads and these ideas? I like the sound effects. It's pretty good. At least they have... In a world where Rand Paul is president, who wants a bald Alu Akbar? Yeah! Fantastical. Alright John so we don't go into hour number three i think we should stop here Good Hmm? I'm all for it Thank you all very much for participating in our little program here that we call the No Agenda Show. We are here twice a week, Thursdays and Sundays. Please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA for it is only you who keeps the program running.

2:56:17 done for you and sponsored by you. That's correct, paid for by you. Paid-for sponsored by you advertising free of security check. And I will have on Sunday another update from the super uber... Super duper group of uber spies Good! I got another Nigerian so I'm saving that for Sunday. I gotta parse through the whole recording. I would like to hear what the Nigerian has to say for himself. You betcha Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the crackpot condo downtown Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where our beautiful clouds are now gone and we're back to dreary desert-like conditions. I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda Adios mofos

2:57:13 El Shabbaa, ya da da da da da da da da da El Shabbaa, ya da da da da da da da There are four things I want the public to know. First, I thought it would be easier during my four years as Secretary of State Obviously it hasn't worked out that way Second, I opted for convenience and I think most people understand that Third No one wants their yoga routines made public And fourth What difference at this point does it make i'm shocked shocked to find six week cycles going on around here it was worth it it was worth it the best podcast in the universe adios mofo amen fist bump devorak.org slash na