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00:00 Do you have everything? Do you have a spreadsheet? Do you have your lunch money? I got no lunch money. Did someone steal your lunch money? No, I didn't get any. I forgot I left it at home. Well, it's not working too well, is it? Adam Curry. John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, December 15th, 2013. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 574. This is no agenda. Six-week cycle resets in FEMA Region 6. From the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. Whoa! What? The thing, it was fluttered and wowed. And your name is? I'm in... I was completely taken aback by that. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! What happened? What did you hear? Wow. Really? Yeah, the theme.

00:56 Oh, it was fine here. I guess Skype gave you an extra special experience. Would you like to do it again? I think it would probably be best. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, December 15, 2013. Time for your GetMonation Media Assassination episode 574. This is no agenda. The six-week cycle resets in FEMA Region 6. From the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I am unprepared, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning. I'm playing both of those. I think the double open is better than just one of the two. Yeah, just do it over and over until we get it right. Eventually we'll get it right. So I'm looking at, you know, by the way, I've got this HTC One.

01:48 That's a phone? Yeah, it's a worse battery hog I've ever seen. Is this a new phone? Is this a Google phone? Is this an Android phone? It's an Android phone. I was looking, I'm looking here, let me look at the list of Wi-Fi. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. You didn't buy it, so who gave it to you? Leo's castaway. Oh, okay. By the way, the thing's a battery hog, I would never buy one of these phones. Leo, hand me down. So Leo hand me down and I can see why yeah, okay, all right, this is clean on Empire which is which is my Wi-Fi name and then also the route the router a new clean on Empire 5n and then and then to wire and then if The somebody's around the street FBI surveillance van what? You've seen this one before at your house. I think I

02:42 No, wait someone else has told me about this. Well, there's the FBI surveillance van I don't know if it's anything like the booty patrol guy You mean there's a guy around the corner that's got this this old piece of crap Datsun He's got it all painted up, and it says booty patrol And where again do you live John this? Are you outside of Berkeley? Yeah? All right make sense the boom I just went off disappeared that what the FBI surveillance van yeah, and it's not on the list anymore Funny yeah hilarious Well you know

03:22 It makes sense. I mean, one of these days they're going to catch on to our six-week cycle prediction and they're going to change it up. And report back to headquarters. Yeah. Hey, do you guys know that there's these two shitheads out on the West Coast? These yokels. One guy's in Texas, I think, and they've been onto us for like two years. Is anyone paying attention? Well, apparently no one is. There's only a couple people who listen to this podcast. And that's what it'll be like, oh, well, what tell me about this guy? Oh, oh, they're they're podcasting. Oh, don't worry about it. Oh, they're doing a podcast. And you mean people are still doing that? Don't worry about them.

04:01 Yeah, was this to the day exactly or was it one day early? I thought... Yeah, it depends. You know, there's a lot of debate amongst me and my subconscious about how this cycle... Does it go from the last event to the... from that day forward or is it reset to the day it's supposed to have happened on which I believe was the 15th. What I've been noticing over the years is that Most of the events either take part on the first part of the month or at the 15th, which is the middle. And if you follow it, you would go from the 15th of this month to the 1st of February, and that's when the next event should take place. Right. But as somebody pointed out, that's actually almost seven weeks. Yeah, that's like saying you're pregnant for nine months when you're actually pregnant for almost 10 months. There you have it. Yeah. Okay. Well, I think that since you sent out the newsletter,

04:56 just before, was it the day before this happened or two days before and I think you called it. Yeah. I think it counts. Now let's be very specific. There were two events that took place in the United States of human nation. Yeah, this is the baffling part. Yeah. And I believe they're unrelated and certainly different agencies. The one that is obviously that adheres to the six week cycle, which means we have to have the FBI involved, No evidence whatsoever is always good. No video evidence, no nothing, just some hearsay. And to top it off, we'd love to have a 33 in there, which I do not think has appeared yet. No, they can appear at any time. It will. This of course is the Wichita, Kansas so-called bombing plot. And then simultaneously we had, and I think the FBI has irked about this,

05:51 We had a school shooting which has its own issues. Well the FBI according to that Arapaho douchebag sheriff who just annoys me to no end. With the tics? He's so full of himself. He says the FBI is there. Now why do you think he's full? How did... I didn't really get that from him that he's full of himself. Really? He is so full of them. He reminds me of a post office guy we used to have here in the little town. And he was like, I'm like in this town for like 10 years and I go in every time because I got a lot of mail and it wouldn't get through the box. I had to go pick it up. See your ID, sir. ID, ID, ID! I've been going through here for 10 years, you idiot. Why do you need to see my ID, ID? Yeah.

06:39 Like a bank of the mechanics bank has not asked me for my ID in a decade. They say hello to me when I walk in. I suppose a look-alike could show up and steal all my money, but it seems unlikely. When we call for something on the phone, they always ask the same security question, which is, what is the last four digits of your social? And what office did you open the account? Oh, that's a good question for you. Well, I remembered luckily. Well I would hope so. Yeah well it's not all that easy you know. Well you get to think back. Mickey's always always saying uh outside of San Francisco. As close as she can come. And I always have to think oh yeah I remember what it was and then I'll yell it out. Yeah.

07:32 Where do you want to start my good friend? Let's start with the Wichita event because you have marked up some of the, I was looking at the complaint and I don't know if you noticed the same thing. I know you marked up that one graph where it says he he attempted to illegally without some, the wording was, I actually don't have it in front of me, but the wording on that first part of the plane, it's like, wait a minute, would it be, if you were, apparently if you got approval, you could blow up the airport. That's the way I read it. Okay. So, uh, well maybe we should just ease into this with a little bit of the mainstream media reporting so we can understand how the people are supposed to understand what happened. This is ABC, uh,

08:14 Maybe Diane even. We do have other developing news tonight. A terror plot in the heartland and the arrest of a man who worked at an airport in Kansas. Okay, so this is what you... Terror plot in the heartland. These are the things you're supposed to remember. This is why it's being presented to you in this manner. He is accused of plotting to drive a truck full of explosives into the airport at Wichita. So how close did he come? ABC's senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas on this story. A deadly plan to detonate a car bomb at this Wichita, Kansas airport. The suspected bomber, Terry Lohan, is a local airplane technician who had a security pass to the airport. According to the FBI, Lohan was planning a suicide operation timed to cause maximum carnage and death at the state's busiest airport. This is a gross, gross misinterpretation of the facts as stated by the FBI themselves in their complaint.

09:10 filed by FBI Special Agent Stephen Cousineau, which I think is like Cousineau... something kitchen-esque. Cousineau. I mean, this is what you're supposed to know, is that someone was plotting a terror attack, they had a pass to the airport, they were gonna blow everything up, but nothing could really be further from the truth. The threat was real. Terry Lohan was real. I love this. It's real. Hello. The threat was real. This guy is real. It's real. So they're getting a little paranoid here about all the people out there that are noticing that some of this stuff seems to be completely bogus. I think so too. And it goes on. And Terry Lohan was committed to execute this plan. At 5 40 a.m. today, Lohan allegedly drove a van he thought was packed with explosives to an airport security gate.

09:58 But the bomb was a dud. It was all a sting controlled by the FBI. It was a dud, John. The bomb was a dud. What is that? It wasn't a dud. It wasn't a dud. There was no bomb. It wasn't a dud. The FBI became aware of Lloyd after he allegedly began posting radical comments on the internet. They sent agents posing as al-Qaeda operatives to work with him. Authorities say he was hell-bent on murder. He talked about his commitment to his crime and his commitment to martyr himself as part of this horrific event. Court documents detail the commitment. In a suicide letter dated Wednesday, December 11th, Lloyd allegedly wrote goodbye to his family. My only explanation is that I believe in jihad for the sake of Allah and for the sake of my Muslim brothers and sisters.

10:45 I expect to be called a terrorist, which I am, a psychopath, and a homicidal maniac. It's so perfect. Now we have no evidence of this other than what the FBI has written. We don't have any attached documents, so we really don't know how much of this is true. And there's a couple things that jump out. of this complaint that we have to discuss. 20 more seconds of this.

11:24 So let's go through this for a second now You can go to the show notes 5 7 4 dot na show notes calm and get the entire marked up copy With everything that I think really jumps out. Of course, we have three names Terry Lee Lohan Important to note. And the FBI, we've learned now how the FBI files these complaints, that it needs to be a federal case. So what he's actually accused of is, quote, attempted without lawful authority to use a weapon of mass destruction against people and property within the United States and such property is used in interstate and foreign commerce. This is, that's the key, right? It has to be like foreign commerce or international air travel.

12:02 and the result of the offense would have affected interstate or foreign commerce. I'm still intrigued by the wording at the beginning. This is the beginning. No, that's what I'm saying. No, I'm talking about the beginning of that sentence. Read it. Read it. On or about December 13, 2013, the District of Kansas and elsewhere, the defendant attempted without lawful authority. Without lawful authority. Yeah. Well, if you're lawful, then you... Is there lawful authority for blowing up the airport? Apparently. Do you find that peculiar? That is interesting. Good catch. Let me put a little box around that. I hadn't even caught that. Wow. Huh. So let's just dissect it a little bit further just to make sure. Attempted, comma, without lawful authority.

12:55 Use a weapon of mass destruction against people and property within the United States you're right. I guess that somewhere We can get that authority yeah, you can obviously get the authority to blow up the airport okay, and kill people Wow Maybe that's what droning is all about I've just found that to stand out like a sore thumb that crazy comment funny. I didn't even catch that This is one that's two of us when you highlighted. I thought you had caught it. Yeah, I Well, I highlighted it because we know the FBI needs to have some interstate commerce thing, otherwise they can't be their beat, you see. And why are they at the school? Well, hold on. Let's... One incident at a time.

13:34 Then count two maliciously attempted to damage and destroy by means of an explosive a building vehicle and property used in activity affecting interstate and foreign commerce. So there's your counts that allow the United States to participate according to title 18 United States Code section 233 2339 a paragraph B and he also apparently tried to finance some AQAPs but all of that if you read through this is all at the encouragement and egging on of the two FBI agents who are involved in literally radicalizing this guy. He because he really does go ahead. Yeah, well, I'm the way I interpreted that is that the guy and I think this is anybody can be set up for this. The guy was another one of these big mouth blowhards and you run into the on some

14:30 some forum somewhere thinking that he could, you know, say what he wanted. And then these guys got ahold of him and slowly radicalized them because I, you know, it's like, would this have ever have happened in a million years without the FBI's help? And we've seen this before. They have, it's not a sting operation. This is a entrapment operation. It's a lot different. Complete entrapment. On or about August 8, 2013, FBI employee one offered to introduce Lowen to someone who could help him engage in violent jihad. In response, the guy says, I really don't know anything about that. And then later, August 17, after he's been egged on, he says, oh, now I've read Amr al-Awlaki's 44 Ways of Jihad. I like what I've read. It's very informative.

15:17 He even goes so far as to say, I gotta find this, this was hilarious, or in the report at least it says, I want to get the exact wording here, that he reads Inspire magazine because he likes to stay current on jihadi information. Are you kidding me? Is the readership down on Inspire that the FBI now has to pump it up? Here, quote, Lohan stated, I read Inspire Magazine. I believe in staying informed. Please, how insulting. That's the PDF that floats around that says, How to Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom. And then he goes on to say, I have become radicalized in the strongest sense of the word. Really? Is that what radicalized people say? I've become radicalized.

16:10 It's not like... It doesn't sound right. It's not like, dude I'm really stoned. I mean, okay, that's what really stoned people say. But not, dude I'm really radicalized right now. No! No, not at all. And he didn't even attempt to blow anything up the minute... This is what I found most interesting. Here's the final... At approximately 5 40 a.m. and the FBI suggested December 13th. FBI employee 2 and Lowen arrived, so the FBI employee was with him at the gate where Lowen tested his badge.

16:46 That was December 11th. Then 5.42am he exited the vehicle, attempted to use his badge twice on the card reader access panel in order to gain entry to the tarmac. The badge and the code used by Lowen were unique to him and validated by the security system and would have opened the gate had it not been disabled. Lowen was taken into custody after his two attempts at opening the gate. So he didn't even try to blow, they didn't even let him hit the keypad. I find this to be the most peculiar part of this. Yeah, it... I mean, here's what my interpretation of this is. He's up there and he's sliding the thing and then he says to him, you know, I don't think this is such a good idea. I mean, if this guy was serious... and then so they had to arrest him there because the FBI normally... Right, because it didn't work, right. It didn't open.

17:39 Well, I don't even know if that's true, but if it didn't open... No, it says it right here. Why would they let it open so he could go in and push the button? Because the FBI's always let the guy push the button. Well, I know. It says the badge on the... Every one of these events have always been, okay, dial the number, dial it, dial it, dial it. You know, they... In this case, he doesn't even get in. So what's the crime? Very well the crime is Attempting we have the counts. I mean you got you got to listen to the language attempting without lawful authority So if you've done the paperwork and requested it it might have been okay, but it's all about attempt So it's not even really a horrible thing and he didn't do anything

18:27 So it clearly is all just about the FBI and let's just return to the origin of the six-week cycle. In order to maintain budgets, in order to maintain the visibility of the agency, the profile, and quite honestly to keep people employed, they have to have some kind of event every six weeks. You know, that's just the auditing cycle. We've been tipped off to this by insiders. It hits every single, it's like clockwork almost. In fact, I stopped wearing a watch because I can just, oh, I know what time it is. It's by what here in the news. And the FBI and the US attorney in Kansas City are touting it as such. This is shitty audio, but this is the US attorney

19:09 where he even plays off the cynicism of the agency. I was talking with the governor early and in this day and age of cynicism about government and cynicism about law enforcement, I want to tell the members of our community and folks in our state that this is a shining example of how good law enforcement, how well they work together. It was truly a textbook example. Yeah, a textbook example of entrapment. And I want to thank the Wichita JTTF, the FBI,

19:46 the Cedric County Sheriff's Office, the Kansas Highway Patrol, the Transportation Security Administration, the Wichita Airport Authority, and the Wichita Police Department for the work they did on this case. What do you want to bet all those agencies get a nice little tank and some body armor and some stuff for staying out of the way? Bitches, yeah, they're getting nice nice little nuggets of the government. Oh, yeah, they get some good stuff Here's the FBI spokeshole on Of course homegrown terror today's arrest however emphasizes that homegrown terrorism is a continuous threat within the United States Well, we feel protected here in the heartland in the middle of America. We have a certain sense of security but today again, it reminds us of

20:29 that terrorism remains a very real threat. Okay, so he's stumbling over the lie, his body won't even allow him to speak it. But that's exactly what it is. It's the cynicism about law enforcement, how well we work together with the Joint Terrorism Task Force, local boots on the ground, everybody gets their little payoff for staying out of the way. And it's a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, a reminder to you that homegrown terrorism is alive and well in the heartland. That's what this is about. And it's disturbing.

21:07 that we can stand here and wave our arms and jump up and down and tweet all we like, they don't care. It works. No, it does work and the networks eat it up and it helps the news cycle, don't forget that. Well, but they blew it. The whole thing got blown. I think the school shooting overshadowed this entirely. Well, the school shooting though was just a piece of crap. I mean, the guy... It comes in, apparently, I mean, here's the litany of the story. The narrative is there was some oversensitive kid who got kicked off the debating team and I guess he felt, or it may have been true,

21:56 that he was the best debater but he was a master debater as a matter of fact. A master debater, exactly, yes. And he felt this is an unjust thing, he didn't show up, who knows why this happened, but he decided to go after the debate guy and so he comes in, guns a-blazing, and then he ends up shooting himself for some unknown reason, which then of course this all leads I think in the no agenda sense It leads to the binary drug thing possibly, which is the kid was on medication and in a depressed mood and maybe that's why he wasn't debating that well because if you're on Prozac you're not going to really get into a good debate. So who knows? I mean we don't know any of the backstory. All we do know is that this blowhard sheriff who

22:39 Who goes on and on and on about how they're gonna everything's got to stop now because they got to do a thorough investigation of this one kid who came in because there's so much evidence to collect Let me play a couple of these clips and you tell me that these get this guy's not just annoying. All right, this is uh Let's see what do we got here. I got two. I got the Arapaho story. Oh, by the way, play this. This is the odd timeline I thought was weird. It's a scene that's unfortunately become all too familiar at US schools. Today it happened in Centennial, Colorado as students ran out of Arapaho High School with their hands raised after reports of a shooting. It was pretty scary. I wasn't really know, I didn't know what was going on. I thought it was just a drill until we heard the gunshots and then

23:23 We weren't really sure what to do then. Police say it started when a male student entered the school and identified a teacher he wanted to confront. Alright, so what you're saying is they thought it was a drill, they were already on lockdown before the gunshots, and all this took place in like a minute and 26 seconds. That's a little out of order. I thought that was peculiar You know that there was an active shooter drill in Littleton, Colorado scheduled for the exact same day I Really hate it when this happens. Yeah, well you right you you're a hateful person because this happens all the time This is let me give you the name of the outfit and they had no other drills scheduled whatsoever

24:05 Except for this and it was it was supposed to be a lone wolf active shooter drill at I don't know if it was specifically at this school Why is my browser like hose here? Oh, yeah the tack one consulting company and they and they have it you can see it still on their On their website. They had they advertised it huh as they advertise here it is I'm sorry. I got to restart my browser. All right. Well while you're doing that you can play you can you play clips? Yeah, of course. No problem. Well, here's the one I want to play right off the bat is the sheriff blowhard making things up here He is going on and on and then he supposes what happened in a very unique You know, he's trying instead of being just objective He's dreaming stuff up and throwing it out there as though it's part of the scenario and taking credit

25:03 He actually takes literally takes credit for the kid killing himself because once the kid was aware that they had his number was up Because of the great work of this stupid department He shot himself and they could they far as they're concerned or far as he's concerned the sheriff guy It's all because they're the great work that they do is from the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office And they immediately implemented our active shooter protocol our active shooter protocol is exactly the same as the active shooter protocols that have been trained locally and regionally and across the United States. Say it again. Yeah, there was trained like and for today even. That was scheduled. I think you should be saying active shooter protocol more. Yeah. And that protocol and that purpose relative to the active shooter response is to go immediately to the threat and eliminate the threat.

25:56 The deputy that is assigned as the school resource officer did exactly as he was trained and as he is expected to do. From the time that the deputy called out the incident until the time that he discovered the shooter's body, was within five minutes. The deputy did his job, school security did their job, and the additional responding deputy sheriffs that made up an active shooter response team did their job extraordinarily well. I believe that their quick response and their reaction saved lives in this particular incident. Just to pause this for a second, this bothered me a lot and this is the

26:40 The mean that's going on is all this kid wanted to hurt a lot of people But he supposedly went in asking for one teacher just one and I don't think there's really any evidence other than was the so-called Molotov cocktails and I don't buy any of that. I don't buy it either I have no way of knowing nor while I have a way of knowing but I believe the shooter knew and that deputy sheriffs were immediately about to engage him and I believe that that shoot saved his life because he knew that he had been found. Well let's listen to one of the eyewitnesses where the speaking of timeline this is way off. He walked in with a shotgun and there are a lot of questions about. I'm sorry that's the wrong one here's the

27:24 Here's the witness in the weird timeline. We stayed quiet and we heard a whole bunch of sounds. We heard people yelling, we heard walkie-talkies and we were hearing like police ask the shooter to drop the gun and like put the gun down and hold his arms up. Did you hear another gunshot after that? Because we're told by the sheriff that they found the shooter with... they found him dead. Jake, Jake, Jake, don't ask that question, Jake, Jake, we're not... Jake, Jake, oh shit, he's asking the question. With what they described as a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Did you hear another gunshot? We did not hear another gunshot. They could have moved because the sounds kept getting further away. Okay, let's get rid of this witness. Oops, oops.

28:14 put your hands up and then no further gunshots. Oh gee that's inconvenient. And that's that would explain a couple of things in terms of the douchebag sheriff. And by the way I was bitching on Twitter about this about the kids being marched out like they were in some slaves like prison camp yeah prison camp it's like they're in the Dachau. You know, Buchenwald get out the hands up. Hands on your head. And I had I had this one guy. For your safety we are saving you. He says, oh they're just doing their job. They're just doing their job by humiliating the kids. Where is this? Anyway, I blocked him. So I got sick of it. Oh, this is a Twitter fight you had. Oh, it's terrible. I think, was it because of the wedding? You were feisty. Did you not get to yell at people during the wedding or something? I got to do five minutes of stand-up.

29:04 So he played douchebag sheriff taking his time about how they're now this what you just played I think plays into this clip well because what it says is that they have locked down the first he makes a big deal we're closing the school until at least Sunday well this is a Friday incident so what The school's closed anyway, but he makes a big deal about they gotta go collect evidence. They've gotta go... It sounds like to me is they've gotta go in there, lock the thing down and cover their ass. Our investigation continues and our investigation will go forward for the remainder of the weekend.

29:41 We anticipate that Arapahoe High School will be closed as a result of our investigation at least through Sunday and possibly longer. We have a very detailed and a complex investigation to conduct. We have a great deal of evidence that we need to evaluate and collect. We will do it right. We won't do it quick. Our purpose now is to ensure that we serve our community so that at the end of our investigation, our community and those that have interest will understand exactly how this happened and we are hopeful that we will be able to identify why it happened. Alright, so as you know we have lots of producers in the area. There's a couple things that I need to run down.

30:27 It is my understanding, and I have only heard this from one source, it is my understanding, and in fact somewhere, I wasn't able to get a clip of it, somewhere someone mentions lockdown, but there's also the term lock-in being used. And it is my understanding from one source that the classroom doors can be automatically locked in that school. Just like a prison! Yeah, like a prison, and they walk them out, just like in a prison, Couple of nuances, the sheriff, this douchebag sheriff, you know he announces retirement the day before. Just as a little convenient little thing to mention. Also, when you want to kill yourself with a shotgun,

31:22 You have to be a journalist, apparently, to think that is difficult. He walked in with a shotgun and there are a lot of questions about what kind of a shotgun it was. Also, one of the questions that I have as a journalist, of course, is as a journalist, of course, because, you know, I'm really, really smart. Whether it was a sawed off shotgun, because he apparently turned that weapon on himself. And, you know, the long stock of a shotgun it's very difficult to turn a shotgun on yourself unless it's sawed off. Kurt Cobain had to shoot himself with his toe. It's hard. It's very hard you got to put on the ground. You know oh, it's so difficult You put on the ground put your mouth over the barrel and pull the trigger Yeah, but but there was no shots heard blows the entire back of your head off which is huge more than that It does more than that. I think it could remove your head if you're doing that yeah, probably I wouldn't be it wouldn't be pretty no So the way this would make by the way shotguns make an extremely loud noise yes

32:26 A couple of other things that were interesting, the Denver Post initially posted that he was, the Arapaho shooter was a quote, very opinionated socialist. And they removed the word socialist from his description later on. And there's a whole bunch of links about this. And in fact, some of his online postings, his Facebook posts were quote, you Republicans are so cute. posting an image that read, the Republican Party, health care, let them die, climate change, let them die, gun violence, let them die, women's rights, let them die, more war, let them die. Is this really the side you want to be on? So of course, you know, this doesn't play well. You know, he needs to be a crazy, a crazy right winger in order to do this. So they had, I think they had it right first, a very opinionated socialist, but they cut that out.

33:26 And removed it, but you can see the differences online all that of course in the show knows then there's always people I find this interesting On Twitter because Twitter is kind of the best place to find any information these days if something happens in real time Two things I saw as a common thread one don't announce his name. Don't give him fame which I find to be You know it's like like that's what he wanted or something. It's like you know don't give it. Don't give that to him and He's dead. Yeah, I'm not quite sure why people say that. And the other thing, which I got from several OBOTs even, quote, what's going on in that part of Colorado? And that, of course, is a very good question because this is... I've said it on the show before, that the state is toxic. Yeah, but I think particularly that area is probably where they got a lot of government families living.

34:22 Yeah, I would think it could be like something something's fishy and they're doing constantly doing these Exercises whatever it is a couple other things. I picked up This is something I've been wanting to discuss on the show actually I've been watching this Showtime Series called masters of sex. I don't know if you've have we talked about that It's kind of a good show. We haven't talked about it. I have I find the show to be tedious I've yet to get through an episode so I stopped. We kind of got into it and so you know it's like we might as the last one is tonight So we might as well just finish it out but in the the episode before last and this plays out in the in the 50s I guess

35:07 mid to late 50s, the hospital is in a drill and it's the civil defense drill and this is from the days of duck and cover. And it's interesting to watch because you know everyone has to put on their helmets and they you know they put the hospital on emergency power for seven or eight hours and then you know and they have it's basically crisis actors and it's exactly what is happening today and when you see what's going on it's kind of The same terrorization of the United States human resources has been going on for 60 years now. And then it was, oh, you're gonna get killed by a nuke, now it's the terrorists, and then, you know, for kids you've got your school shooters, and it's even being noticed by the mainstream. Schools have developed protocols and they actually train and they drill on what to do in situations like this, and teachers have been told to get their students out of harm's way.

36:02 parents who have talked to me personally about drills that their kids have gone through at school. It used to be, you know, back in the 50s, you would do drills by hiding under the desk and now we do drills, hopefully, we'll get kids out of harm's way, out of the school and into a neighborhood within the school that they can be safe from harm. You certainly learn obedience. That is for sure. The president was very clear about this being an issue no longer for politics. This is where the narrative has changed a little bit, and I think it's very clear what he's intending to say. One is,

36:43 It's no longer an issue of Washington. You have to make the change. What he's saying is women of the world, moms of the world, if you love your children, never ever, ever vote for the Republicans. Yes, that's... And it is a very clear war on crazy, which we'll get to right after this little bit from the president's podcast. And on this anniversary of a day we will never forget, that's the example we should continue to follow. Because we haven't yet done enough to make our communities and our country safer. We have to do more to keep dangerous people from getting their hands on a gun so easily. Dangerous people? Very open to interpretation. We have to do more to heal troubled minds. Yeah, war on troubled minds. You might have a troubled mind. We have to do everything we can to protect our children from harm. Of course. And make them feel loved and valued and cared for.

37:40 And as we do, we can't lose sight of the fact that real change won't come from Washington. It'll come the way it's always come. From you. Voting for the- Oh, I thought he was going to say from the intelligence community. And the American people. That would have been funny. As a nation, we can't stop every act of violence. We can't heal every troubled mind, but if we want to live in a country where we can go to work, send our kids to school, and walk our streets free from fear, and retire with dignity, we have to keep trying. We have to keep caring. We have to treat every child like they're ours like they're crazy like those in Sandy Hook Okay, let's read every now so within half an hour Dr. Drew is on he flips over from headline news to the main station. Dr. Drew to the main stage and Here is then this is what's really going on. I

38:38 What he wants and what then he pushed for this last time he was allowed to talk about it And we and we heard about it. We heard him from his own his podcast where he used the f-word He dropped some f-bombs about as a doctor and of course, you know, what kind of doctor he is is is debatable He's a drug pusher. But as a doctor you should be able to break the doctor-patient confidentiality pact if you feel that they're dangerous or troubled. He randomly shoots, we think, three other kids and then quickly shoots himself. That is a very altered state for him to have been in, to be that violent. So we're gonna hear more about, I think, the mental state once again of this young person. That's the setup. This is what we're gonna hear all about, the mental state. Now, mind you, we really have no official diagnosis as far as I'm concerned about

39:31 Adam Lanza. I found no doctor's records or anything. It's just what we have is hearsay that he had Asperger's and was troubled, but we don't have any actual medical documentation, but it's being used as fact that he was nuts. So this is about not so kids of course we know if if the kids are nuts what's driving them nuts is the drugs are on that are that are legal a young girl at random shooting yeah random shooting at peers that's a terribly agitated state again he walks in brandishing a shotgun that's not a kid who is sort of diabolically planning something that is a kid who is in a state that is altered and then quickly when he can't find the teacher turns the gun on himself there's more to be told here. Yeah MK ultra is one explanation but I'm still gonna I'm gonna stick with with crazy psychotropic drugs. Oh I'm sure this investigation is only beginning. That's right that's right we may be able to understand in terms of motivation about

40:30 what it is he had as a bone of contention with that teacher but that does not explain i don't care what is going on between him and that teacher that does not explain the magnitude of the alteration of his mental state the magnitude of the agitation a young person would have to manifest in order to walk into his own high school imagine this not with a concealed weapon brandishing a shotgun. I mean doctor this is half an hour after this has happened He is already, he knows what's happened, it's all fact, this is what's going on, this is how it's going down. And then randomly shooting peers and then quickly turning that weapon on himself. That is not a kid in a normal mental state in my estimation. Obviously I'm speculating, but you've got to think about manias, you've got to think about drugs, you've got to think about...

41:19 What kind of drugs, Drew? There are sorts of disorders, all of which in which an unregulated state of agitation can manifest in a young person. And again, what's going on in Colorado? I have a concern that there may be difficulty in Colorado intervening when there are the kinds of symptoms that suggest somebody's in trouble. Ah, wait a minute. There's problems in Colorado intervening when symptoms arise. I believe that's what we're gonna see in Aurora. I'm concerned that's what we're gonna see here. That people don't intervene with the same kind of intentionality that they need to. I'm concerned in that state

41:59 in order to prevent this sort of thing. Now listen carefully. It's okay to help someone when they are about to move into a state where they can hurt themselves and other people. You are helping them by doing that no matter how much they dislike it. And I am of concern that there might be a, I don't know if it's a cultural issue, a legal issue, or a medical issue that is preventing that from being carried out in that state. I would say a combination of all three. And legal will be at the top of the list, because that's what he's advocating. And maybe he's right. Who am I to judge what happened here? I don't think it's also a coincidence. He comes out really quick. I don't think it plays into the larger narrative, but I still think there is a smaller narrative to go after Colorado for passing that marijuana law. Oh, that could be.

42:50 That could be. So you want to focus on that and then you can, you know, well you know if it wasn't for that, you know, these kids, this powerful drugs. It's not the kind of marijuana we smoked, Bill, when I was a kid. This stuff's powerful. Very powerful. Really? You think it's going to be the... I thought it was just going to be purely mental state, just crazy, and we need to incarcerate crazy people, we need to keep them away from guns, we have to separate them from their families if the family has firearms. That's what I'm thinking. you know that i think is an ongoing uh... saying that all over the country and and tell you this marijuana thing really pisses off the justice department in particular right and that would include the fbi uh... that they've they've was brazenly and aggressively uh... put marijuana in the middle of the country legalized marijuana as opposed to the west coast we know where you can kind of marginalize the other two days are crazy out there

43:47 Hmm, probably worse if Illinois legalized it. They wouldn't know what to do. But anyway, I just think it's an element to consider. There's no mention of it or anything like that, but it's just something to think about. Right. Well, it's possible. It's possible. Anyway, so sad whatever happened. We still don't really know exactly what happened. It's very irritating that a drill was planned in the exact same county on the exact same day at a high school. Very irritating that these things happen. You know, and for everything we have where the so-called victim who was shot was first a 15 year old, then it was a 17 year old, and immediately the sheriff was showing a picture

44:33 which also felt a little weird in a statement and everything. So either a very well executed drill, which is possible. I wonder if we'll see any pictures of any bodies being, there should be at least one body they can take out of there. I've seen no video, nothing. I don't want to downplay it because it makes no sense to have these two things happen on the same day, that's for sure. Because I think... No, the coincidence, I mean, there are things that happen in a coincidental manner, but sure. It seems to me that a lot of this seems like a drill. And the other one, of course, the Wichita thing is just a classic. I mean, I'm glad to see the FBI's back to this because this has always been a high moment of entertainment for the No Agenda show, which is these find the dumb guy and talk him into doing something and then arrest him. There was this horrible situation where they were doing some busts up in Minnesota, Wisconsin. We didn't do the story, but

45:32 but they found some guy who literally was, and I wouldn't say mentally disabled, mentally challenged, the guy just had a really low IQ and they had him, they talked him into helping them find some illegal gun sales. This was an ATF. Oh yeah, was this the guy and he tattooed himself? I don't remember him tattooing himself in the story but all I know is at the end of the day when they started, when they busted the wrong gun shop and wrecked the guy's business and put him out of business and he's bitching and moaning, they ended up arresting this poor mentally challenged guy as some sort of a kingpin. I mean this government is just horrible with these instincts. This happened a second time

46:18 I was reading about it, but it was so complicated and I had to, you know, there's no clips or anything. I couldn't really dress it up, but it referred back to what you're talking about. Recently, they got two guys certified, mentally challenged. They wanted them to, I guess ATFB, I'm not sure, NE, whatever. uh they wanted these guys to you know to help in the sting operation they even went so far as to get gang tattoos on their neck for and yeah and yeah the FBI paid them 150 bucks or ATFB to do that and and then you know so that they could then get some drug dealers or something it's it's it's this is what happens when you have

47:03 just too much, too many people running around trying to justify their jobs. I've had big companies, I've run big companies, this is what happens. Even in a company with 700 people is not the government, but you have people who float under the radar for years sometimes. And you'd be like, what does that guy do? Nothing. I don't know. He must do something or he wouldn't be working here. Or they've made something up, you know, they've made up some great It's one time in New York, so we had, think new ideas, 700 people around the country, 110 of them in New York, and we had a theft problem. And laptops were walking out the door. And this is 98 or 99 or something. And at this point we had an HR department. This is how it starts. We had an HR, of course, an HR department. So I couldn't just go around saying, hey, show me your bag. Did you steal a laptop? Which was kind of my idea.

48:01 And so HR had to call in the security firm, and they had, they put in pinhole cameras and checking the logs on the, I felt dirty just from what was going on, checking the logs on everything. And I don't even know if we ever figured out who was doing it, but I do know that after six months, there was a bill for $100,000 Some jackass security company who would put a couple of cameras and pinhole cameras in the office. I cuss more than the last Yes, exactly and and and you know and the and the HR had signed off on it because that's how it works That is exactly what goes on in government when you have just waste just wasteful stuff. Yeah, well, that's absolutely the case I did. There's a lot of that going on just one last note. I had and I didn't clip it Did you see the second?

48:56 press conference that the bonehead sheriff did? No, I saw that. I had the one and I think I saw parts of it where he, is this the one where he's, where there's a, yeah, I think I saw it. There was a question and someone said, and he's answering questions really rap, you know, he's doing his thing. And someone says, well, did he have a car? And he could see he was thrown by this. He went, if he had a car, you can bet we're checking it right now. Whoa, I have to I'll have to find that that question and that answer because it was it was it was we make stuff up That's what bugs me about this sheriff. Yeah, it was that was weird You know he's like one of these guys who just and he just likes to hear himself talk and he makes stuff up And and that's a good example. It's like a guy who's essentially it reminds me of you know the my

49:50 often feared pathological liar who gets into your life somehow and the next thing you know you're believing is bull crap and you're just another idiot. I'm always on the lookout for these guys. Alright, so we reset the cycle. When do we do it? Yeah, I'm gonna go look at the calendar. Let's take a look. I haven't made this official yet with a actual date. No. Oh, I did put something up on Twitter and someone said that was seven weeks So if we take let's start today the 13th because this is kind of wrapping today is the 15th the 15th I mean the 22nd that'd be one week two weeks would be the 29th and then let me go to the next 29th the second week the third week begins on the 5th and

50:35 The fourth week begins on the 12th, the fifth week begins in the 19th, and the sixth week begins on the 26th. So it should be the week... should be anywhere from the 23rd to the 28th of January. Now my thinking still is that it's kind of a halfway through the month and then the month and the halfway through which puts it closer to the first. But we'll make it exactly six weeks from the incident which puts it around, uh, it looks like the 26th, 27th. Okay. It's not, yeah. Alright, we'll see. We'll see what happens. Yeah, end of January. Whatever the case is. End of January, that sounds about right. End of January will be another episode. Won't be anything through Christmas, we don't need that.

51:28 You know, the holiday's already bad enough. We don't want to hurt retail sales. Which I learned they have less shopping days between Black Friday and Christmas than normal this year. That's because Thanksgiving came so late in the month. Right. The 28th. Thanksgiving's usually like the 24th. And I understand from my canary in the coal mine, Ms. Mickey, Then on NPR there was actual discussions about changing the name of Black Friday because of its racial overtones. No. Yeah, I know. It's sad.

52:06 It's like Eric the shills complaint about apparently Amazon. Yes, let him sell the slave t-shirt through Amazon because it's offensive and Yes, so what Erica so by the way store dot no agenda nation comm is back open now and he has lots of swag for sale and And I read through the message he got and everything, so they will not allow... They'll allow him to sell it, but he can't have a listing with the word slave. And this is very interesting, because you know that there's not someone sitting there checking his store entry. This is automatic. And this is how words get changed into something really annoying, and how words get hijacked.

52:53 Yeah, this is hijacking the word slave to mean... Historically, slave has taken on a number of different meanings and there's a thing called a wage slave but for some reason and I don't know who started it but slave now Supposedly not to us but to the public they're gonna try to make this it only refers to black slavery yes from the 1700s through 1865 1866 no area no other slave whatsoever. I have two clips to go along with this another Annoyance one is from Arsenio Hall Arsenio Hall had a talk show in the 90s which was very successful and was it the 80s no it was 90s and maybe a little bit of the 80s and end of the 80s being in the 90s he's basically Eddie Murphy's friend and was in you know some Eddie Murphy movies and then he quit and I don't know he stopped he was done and he wanted to go away for a while whatever happened

53:54 And he recently was talking about, I think probably about Kanye West, and about the slave word. And he's very clear and very all-in on the word slave can only mean one thing. You can't use this word slave because it only means one thing. You know, so the bottom line is sometimes I don't like to be put in those conversations because There's no struggle here. Oh, I think what happened is someone said maybe Kanye West said that Kanye West was bitching about something and then he cited Arsenio as part of the problem. He said that Arsenio was a slave to the white man and they got him and they kicked him off his TV show. My struggle was in the ghetto of Cleveland. There's no struggle now, you know, and nothing about anything I do or he does, you know. I hate the word slave used in songs. The f***

54:41 Get the f*** out of here. Get the f*** out of here. What is that accent exactly? That's not ghetto. That's get the f*** out of here. What is that? Some area of Los Angeles. Yeah, that's like a Hollywood thing. Lame, Arsenio. Do you know what that word is? Do you know what that word's all about? Yeah, yeah. It means slave. Someone who's subservient to a master. But I guess it means only one thing. Nobody can use slave in pop culture. We can't have it on a t-shirt. Says who? Yeah, says Arsenio. If you in the music business, you shouldn't f*** with that word. Too serious an era. Too serious a problem in America. Using the word slave in pop culture, there's no one

55:23 that's free to move around this country that should use the word slave. Do you know what it meant to slaves? Yeah, slaves in Egypt or the slaves that we are to the government, the waste slaves. How about the S&M community? Let's talk about them for a minute. How do they react to this? I hadn't even considered that. This is an outrage. Let's take a look at the word slave that is defined by the computer. Slave, noun, historical, a person who is the legal property of another and who is forced to obey them. Yes. Vassal, serf, thrall, I never heard that one, but serfs, verb, work excessively hard. After slaving away after 14 years all he gets is $2,000.

56:06 Synonyms for toil, labor, grind away, sweat, work one's finger to the bone, work like a Trojan dog. So why is this word being stolen and used to only refer to one specific thing and who's doing it? Maybe instead of complaining we should steal a word ourselves. You know, I've thought about this. But what word could we use? Well, we've stolen in the morning. We have douchebag. I mean, it's, we don't, we don't literally mean a bag that you do, not a vaginal douche vessel. I mean, we don't mean that. So we, in a way we're complicit in stealing words. And, and by the way, the vaginal feminine hygiene community is outraged. Uh, there was another little fake controversy, uh, between Fox and, uh, CNBC.

56:56 About I guess Megyn Kelly said that Santa was white and Jesus was white and some Some blogger. I think it's an MSNBC property. I could be wrong This woman wrote about how Santa should be a penguin I mean, this is the the the idiocy that is news in America But then she went on MSNBC with who's the guy with it with the glasses the kind of mousy looking guy. Yeah, I Yeah, that guy took yeah the guy who took over from yeah that guy what's his name show yeah And and he and since we we track this on the show I just you know It's always fun when you actually know something about something and then you hear it in the news and that discredits the entire news broadcast Santa Claus is not real

57:44 He is, as I think Monica Crowley noted in her, in the segment, he is based on Saint Nicholas, who was a European saint, historical figure. But that Santa now looks nothing like that Santa does. We've completely kind of changed the way he looks. Let's just be clear, there is no historical Santa Claus, right? Like we have a figure, there was a Saint Nicholas figure, the traditions around the Saint Nicholas christmas celebration the depictions of that's a negligent traditionally very skinny figure uh... in amsterdam there's a tradition which is accompanied by as david said eris once famously said very funny routine sixty black men who may or may not be slaves this is a real thing look up i'm not making this up all look at all not making it up and kind of glossing over the fact that's their body and this is how this is how it operates how these these guys operate yet just throughout a bunch of bull crap and then uh...

58:41 But there's a lot of ghost on it. Nobody's ever gonna look anything up. No, of course not. No one's watching. The Megyn Kelly thing, she was on talking about it and it seemed like one of these kind of nutty... In fact, the first thing I thought was Black Pete when this whole thing started to erupt. You're an educated man. You listen to the No Agenda Show, best podcast in the universe. So this is why. I take part. You think further than this bullcrap. But the whole thing was just bogus anyway, and it was just a... The news cycle was slow. They obviously aren't going to deconstruct any of these events that we're doing. And so they'd rather talk about Megyn Kelly. She's kind of pretty and she needs more publicity for her show. So there you have it. And then I saw last night, it was all about the snowstorm on the East Coast. It was done. Over. Cycle complete. Reset it, boys! See you at the end of January!

59:32 We'll be back with more at the end of January. Your FBI. Dear Adam and John, would you mind if I started up Furries for No Agenda? Some of us furries are big fans of the show and I think you need to get the furry community in as well. You're losing a big demographic. Well, I'm not sure how we're losing a big demographic, but let's have a quick meeting here. I'm all for it, John. Furries for No Agenda sounds like a good group to me. You know, I've never found the furries to be offensive. No, I don't understand. I do get into, you know, JC and his wife. Oh! Hello, Jessie. They went to Evergreen University up in... and there's a bunch of furries there. And when I went to the... his... JC's graduation. Is it a bunch? Is it a flock? Is it a... what... if furries are together, is that a... A herd. A herd.

1:00:26 Thanks furries! So the furries dress up as furries at the graduation because you can wear whatever you want. Some, you know, a couple of the girls are dressed up as hookers. Not the furry girls, but the regular girls. Most people wore tux and some people just wore jeans. I mean it was weird to watch this event, but the furries were all in force in their costumes. We have furry races here in Austin. They do half marathons, dressed. Which is tough, man. That's no joke. So anyway, so I comment on this once when I said, well, you know, the furries, I just, I've always under the impression that the furries get dressed up as gophers or hamsters or whatever they want to be. And then they have sex in these costumes as these animals. Well, we've been through this. That's not entirely true. No, I was called out on it by the two of them. No, those costumes are too expensive.

1:01:23 Apparently these costumes cost so much money some of these furry costumes that they're they can't they would never have sex in one no Does it make a mess in this I cleaning bills and everything cleaning bill unbelievable But it's it is a role-playing thing and I'm all for it. I don't get I don't even understand I think just looking for promotion and even by saying this I don't know why I brought it up. I Other than... More than their share of promotion. Exactly. Well, John, regardless of furries tuning in or not and whether they're a flock or a herd, thank you for your courage and in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak. Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feed in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. I got to filter that to make it sound more like 1930s.

1:02:07 Carl, what's the guy's name? I can't remember his name, but they're trying to be that guy. I'm gonna try to work on his voice. Hey, in the morning to all of the human resources in the chat room, noagentistream.com, noagentitchat.net, good to see you all. Thank you for checking in. Keep it, keeping us honest. Thank you to our artist, Martin JJ had artwork for episode 573, Martin JJ on a tear. just on a tear he submitted five pieces it was hard you know to choose which martin jj would win is nuts yeah you better step up i want to mention something to all the uh striving artists martin jj we were when he started showing up and hitting home runs you know like he came out of the minors

1:02:50 We look back and he had actually been submitting for a couple of years. Yeah, yeah and never got picked for anything And all of a sudden he just he just hit it. He just he just got this is what happens you get it You know you do it you do it you finally oh they like that one That's interesting and then you your mind your brain actually changes functionally to make you you better So it's also we see a lot of people who tried to guess what we're gonna talk about and create beautiful artwork that is completely irrelevant to that episode and And it's sad because being a No Agenda album artist, it's like being an animal balloon artist. You know, it's like, okay, what if... And there's your giraffe. That's how it goes. Oh, and I have figured out, thank you, I forgot who it was on the tweeters, who helped me figure out how to get the album art displaying in the new iOS 7 podcast app, which apparently broke the

1:03:44 Art displaying so we have the art displaying again now, which is nice because when you play it in the podcast app you And a lot of people have Dog Catcher or Downcast or other things which works just fine. It's nice when you can see the art. Right, as opposed to the piece of art that we did six years ago. You know what, why don't you... it has to be 1400 by 1400 pixels. If you send me... if you choose a new piece I can have them change it out for us. But it has to be really big. It has to be 1400 by 1400. We'll do something simple. There's a couple that'll scale up easy. Okay, for all the correctness that we have brought to you, for all the accurate predictions, for all of the work that goes into the program. Yeah, no, I always, this happened before, the last time the six-week cycle struck with the LAX shooting, donations went down. Yeah, and today... So there's a double thing going on with the six-week cycle. One is we get less money. Yeah, yeah.

1:04:44 We have three executive producers, nobody giving over $300. Associate, associate executive. They're all, but the high, the high. We're falling off the cliff. The high bidder is Eric M. out of Cincinnati, Ohio at $250.02. And then not only does he, he'll get the executive producership for that, but But now that not only does he come in with the you know, it's a reasonable amount for an associate But he comes in with an insulting note, which I'll read really he's donated and insulted us. Yes, of course Well shit bags starting well. It's finally happened I negated my last three monthly payments at 83 34 for this one big drop so I could grab myself a producer credit and got lucky by the way got executive producer as well as his knighthood. I was a boner for the entire year of 2012 until the episode right before Adam left to give a talk at South by Southwest in which he

1:05:40 Rage quit the show due to poor donations and lack of value for value. I've never heard a grown man whining, bitch. Like a 16 year old Valley girl of that great extent in my life. By the way, you work on your sentence structures there Eric. I couldn't stop laughing and decided then that then and there that the year 2013 I'd become a knight. So no shitty jingles just bring on the hookers and blow. I only asked that I be knighted Sir Eric M. the Asshole. China to get crabs Well, that's not too bad. First of all, he's not he's he's only bitching at me Which is why I'm sure you take great pride in reading this note. I don't have to read these things What we do we read executive producer notes. Yes, we do Well, I don't well I think it was bad at the time

1:06:33 It was bad at the time and you should have been whining. And I think there was something that had to do with the chat room or something and... Uh, this was a while ago. Hey, you know what? Sometimes I gotta whine and do shit like that. You're an emotional guy. You're an honest person. You're real. No filters. And that's the only way the show works. No filters. If I had to put on filters about stuff I couldn't talk about, which sometimes of course there are things to protect people's jobs, That's funny because people hey man you gonna encrypt to say yeah, why do you have encrypted is it do it people get arrested? No good to get fired. Oh my god. I'm wants to get fired Everyone wants to help me out with with

1:07:14 you know with our deconstruction of events and how things take place and we for this show we've got scientists we've got top-notch aviators we've got chemists we have law enforcement all kinds of intelligence we have teachers professors we have postal carriers we've got every kind of occupation from around the globe we got farmers You are part of a community of extremely interesting people. And we need to have more of you doing meetups, by the way. You'd be amazed how when you... I mean, of course, we did our Hot Pockets tours and you'd see these meetups and the people that would come together. It was, yeah, they want to talk to me and I talk to Mickey, but wow, when these people talk to each other, it's mind boggling.

1:08:06 when they start to figure it out, you know, who's who. We had dinner, I don't know how to call them, Republic Bots? We need a name. We have some... Tree Jerk Republicans. Lunatic Fringe. They've always been given, these guys have always been given bad names. Lunatic Fringe, what's the latest one they call these guys? Again, these are friends of mine. Right Wing Nut. Yeah, Wing Nuts. So these are friends of mine. wingnuts these are friends and we had this the Democrats are the ones who dream up all these these these horrible names yeah I mean the Republicans call them libs maybe you know or something they don't call them wingnuts lunatics here was a conversation so in Austin if you're gonna out yourself as a Republican because when people don't I think a lot of people don't think in terms of

1:08:54 just what you know what is constitutional or or what would be right there it's always right left red blue so people have to label themselves so self-labeling but to come out with a self-labeling as republican in austin you do that very quietly you know you're not gonna in a restaurant you're not gonna go hey screw this president these democrats this is not what you do in austin so we're having dinner and it's uh it's six people mickey and i and then uh are are two two friends two couples And it was weird because all guys on one side and the girls on the other side was a very not a nice configuration. I didn't like it at all. But so the guys started talking and then the one in the middle who's a lawyer says, he's actually my constitutional lawyer friend. He says, 2012 is going to go down as the pinnacle year, was the tipping point. So what are you talking about?

1:09:44 Yeah, when more people were on social handouts and government money than people were working. I go, okay. And then the other guy leans over and he's a true, true Texan. Been around, born and raised, owns restaurants, you know, Texan. What do you think? Do you think the Republican Party can come back in the next election? And I'm like, no. Well, how about the big man? And I had to think what the hell is he talking about? Who's the big man? And I don't I mean, oh you mean Chris Christie? Yeah, the big man. I said no Hillary Clinton is the best Republican you're ever gonna get she's uniquely qualified to run the Empire and you know what they both went

1:10:35 Damn, there's something there. Have you heard that there's like 20 friends of the Clintons are dead? I said, dude, you got to go back to Google. How about I put a one in front of that? The Clinton body count is 120. If Hillary doesn't get what she wants, she shoots you in the face. Yeah, there's something to that. So it was very interesting to see these very successful grown up men, Republicans who are finally coming out because they feel, well, Adam probably not going to freak out on us. And they understand that maybe Hillary is the right choice. It's interesting. It was definitely the right choice for discussion on this show. Oh hell yeah. I miss her so much. All right, two more Associated. Yeah, that was sorry about that. Yeah, I went off the rails. By the way, whether anyone gives or not, we can keep the segment as long as possible. That's what we do. Chris Spears and talking about Austin, Texas. That's where he's from and came with $222.20. Hi Adam and John. Hope this value for value fits you all well.

1:11:37 I want to thank you for your courage. Lord Dvorak's request for obedience would make my day. You will obey. You will obey. You will obey. I have something, obey ringtone. What's this? You will obey. Oh, it's the same thing. You will obey. You will obey. Well, that's kind of cool. Yeah, it's not bad. Alexander, what do we have here? Selesnyov. Selesnyov. Selesnyov, obviously. And he's in Espoo, Finland. Thank you from Finland. $201.40. May I request some general purpose karma to be sent my way. Thank you for your courage and keep up the good work. Absolutely. Thank you so much for associate producerships. You've got karma. That is appreciated. That's that.

1:12:27 And nice to see these names on the list, not necessarily the recurring names we usually see. Well it'd be nice to see them too. Fact! Devorac.org slash N-A-S-T. Alright people, definitely think about helping us out for Thursday's show and you can always continue to propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up. Gotta go off topic for one second. Sure.

1:13:11 Now I want to play this clip because this will be something you'll enjoy hearing. Okay. And I don't without much comment, but there's a little tidbit in here. I was watching the, I didn't get much out of this, but I was watching all the hearings. with again you know Kaiser Alexander. I watched some of that, yeah. And you know we could be doing better and then of course the apologist comes up which you'll play later, guys that essentially check, you know doesn't everybody do this and would it be like disarming if we stop doing it? Right. You know that kind, there's no good questions these guys are all terrible. but that that the delay he was going on waxing about out j Edgar Hoover had this power we'd all be you know in a gulag and blah blah blah but he's made this peculiar comment that I I just thought you should hear because it's just like I've never heard of such a thing I had a friend who died in the towers 9-11 I think about that all the time I think of my wife

1:14:09 who was a medical surgical nurse at Arlington Hospital going there, even though she'd retired to volunteer to help with any wounded coming from the Pentagon, told there were no wounded. You're either alive and walking or you're dead. There's nothing in between. I just thought that was a little odd. That is very odd. When do you have a situation like that? Where, you know, there's a bunch of casualties and there's nobody in between? Nobody with a you know sprained ankle broken leg. Oh a success big cash successful operation I'd say is when we have that I was born in that hospital. Oh really yeah Interesting indeed, that's where they implanted the chip my mom always is very fond of telling me the story was she say oh

1:15:00 Your father was drunk. It starts with, your father was drunk. And I'm about to give labor. And I'm hungry. There's nothing to eat. And I say, go get something to eat. And he comes back hours later, drunk, with a chili from a vending machine. That is the family I came into. Yay! And then my dad always says, I had an Austin Healy before you were born. Austin Healy. I had to drive around paper bags so I wouldn't scratch the bottom of my Austin Healy. He had one of those classic ones with the two seats. Yeah, Austin Healy. Two seater. Yeah. And then you came along and ruined that.

1:15:43 Son why those things aren't hard to maintain with or without kids you can't put a kid in the back There's no backseat. I would have to be strapped. You know put it they put me in the we do you have a second car It's not unusual No, I don't think make the Healy out when you feel like driving around like a kids They were like 23 when they had me kids. Oh Yeah, 24. I don't know kids there you go, so he blames you. Oh, yeah, oh Yeah, those things are dangerous. To this day, to this day, to this day he blames me. Well you should buy him an Austin Healey. Find an old used one, they can't cost that much. Nah, he has a scootmobile now. It's a different kind of Austin Healey. An Austin Healing. Enough of family sentimentalism. Sorry, well, sometimes people like a little bit of the personal touch. Tonight,

1:16:40 On 60 minutes unprecedented access for CBS. Of course I have the teaser. I have the teaser. Oh, I had the teaser too. Where's your teaser? We'll play your teaser. Play it. Where does it say teaser or where is it? Well, what does it say? Probably NSA teaser on 60 minutes. Oh, that would be it. Okay. It's the most secretive and controversial spy agency in the world. So why did the NSA open its doors and speak to 60 minutes? Find out Sunday. Well, okay, I have a little more than that. Okay, well let me before okay after you play your teaser. I have a comment I have to make okay Rick legend is the man who was put in charge of the Snowden leak task force by General Keith Alexander who heads the NSA

1:17:26 The task force's job is to try and prevent another leak like this one from happening again, but they're also trying to figure out how much damage the Snowden leaks have done and how much damage they still could do. Snowden, who is believed to still have access to a million and a half classified documents, he has not leaked. This is new information. We don't know anything about a million and a half. Well, it started with 50,000 if I'm not mistaken. No, no, no, no. 50,000 what I've heard from Grand Gris Roll, 50,000 is what the Times and the Guardian and the Post have.

1:18:07 and they have that horrible database where you have to try and search for keywords because it's not just a bunch of documents you can look at. Which I think is on purpose to make sure that even those 50,000 documents are slowed down. My understanding is that Greenwald has ten times that. But this one and a half million? This is brand new information. Well, they keep changing the number. Well, it's important because this is about the amnesty. Has been granted temporary asylum in Moscow, which leaves the US with few options. He's already said, if I got amnesty, I would come back. Given the potential damage to national security, what would your thought on

1:18:47 making a deal be. So my personal view is yes, it's worth having a conversation about. I would need assurances that the remainder of the data could be secured and my bar for those assurances would be very high. It would be more than just an assertion on his part. Now this is interesting because in this 60 minutes they're going to set up the pro and the con, the controversy with Kaiser Alexander who comes in a moment. What the guy is saying is well, yeah if we can make sure that you know, there's basically 1 million four hundred and fifty thousand that have not been distributed yet and my bar will be high then yeah, we'll give me an amnesty to get that back which screws up a lot of things for a lot of people this I think this is some kind of counter-attack against you know, the Omnidar, NuCo, Pierre, Greenwald, Poitras thingy and of course we need to have the contra

1:19:37 The counterpoint which Kaiser Alexander takes to a whole new extreme. Is that a unanimous feeling? It's not unanimous. Among those who think making a deal is a bad idea is legend's boss, General Alexander. So this guy is just he just he has no problem coming out saying something that his boss doesn't agree with. Yeah, yeah, that's not a setup people. That's how it always works in government. This is analogous to a hostage taker taking 50 people hostage, shooting 10, and then say if you give me full amnesty I'll let the other 40 go. No it's not. This is not what it's, this is not at all analogous to that.

1:20:17 This is he just painted a picture for you, which is by the way I want to mention here this guy does more of these crazy analogies I have one after you're done here. I'm done. We can move on I made my well He's got this I'm trying to think is either the Frank and ramble or see if I have Write that down before we before we go there. Let me just say something about the teaser They're showing this the inside they get the camera inside the NSA and they're showing yeah, I'm gonna this is an ask Adam Okay So they got the camera inside the NSA, there's a bunch of people sitting in a terminal and then there's some guy standing up talking to the guy who's going to be the interviewer. They're wearing camo.

1:20:56 Okay, hold on a second. What's the question? You're sitting at a terminal in Bethesda, Maryland in this blockhouse wearing camo and the boss who's speaking is wearing camo. Why are you wearing camo? We are in an active war zone, John. This is with active shooters, active war. You have to be ready at the drop of a hat. We could be doing a drill and you want to look the part. When you go to work you- You think you look hot in camo? Is that the deal? You gotta wear your- I'm just as important as a guy fighting in Afghanistan. By the way, this is, as far as I'm concerned, demeaning the boots on the ground that are actually out there having to wear camo. I agree. They're sitting at a computer terminal wearing camo. Well, they are cyber warriors.

1:21:45 Yeah, it's ridiculous. I agree. You don't even have to ask me. It's dumb. It's ridiculous. It's insulting. It is the milieu. It's the culture of the military. What it is. So let's play the Frankenramble and Alexander... Frankenramble? Oh no, no, here it is. Alexander makes no sense. Now this is a guy, the apologist on this committee, is going on and saying how great it is. Now I just pay very careful attention to what Alexander says and tell me if half of it is just meaningless blather.

1:22:21 Other foreign sovereigns are doing very aggressive things in this space to try to pull as much information as they can as well out of the cloud and out of the capacities of big data. Okay, stop right there. You could have used that in a sales pitch for Salesforce.com. That was a great line. Yeah, it was obviously written down for this. This is the senator. In this space... Who'd like to take that? General? Senator, I have some experience in that. My opinion, none of them have the oversight by all three branches like we do, either their parliaments, Congress, their courts and their administration. Understood. But my point is they're all out there doing it. They do. And that if we were to... Well, not all. The ones who have the capability. A lot. The most powerful ones all do. That's right. And if we were to pass a law that prevented

1:23:20 intelligence and defense establishment from operating in that big data atmosphere, we would be essentially unilaterally disarming in an arena in which other governments are very active. Is that true? That's true. In fact, I think some have likened it to because we have a powerful intel community or powerful Navy, we would tell our submarines to surface in those areas where people don't, where their subs aren't as good. What? And the senator's like, uh, what? Yeah, their subs are no good. What? You know, I'm gonna hold back, because you may have more. That was very close to Clipper the Day. That was so dumb. Yeah, in fact, with the big data, the subs have to surface, because they're just not as good. Hey, baby, I love you. Let my sub surface. It's not as good. This is crazy.

1:24:21 This is wasting time. Do they go back and have a beer after this and go, wow man, that was really funny. You just like, I used to do this with Bloom. No, wait a minute, wait a minute. Before you go to the Bloom story, it went almost like this. Okay, okay, 10 bucks you can't slip in. You can't slip in anything. I bet you cannot find a way to get the word submarine into your testimony. This is what Bloom and I had. And I'm talking with the first company we had, not this other one. And in a pitch, and these are early days of the internet, if we could get in advanced network analysis language or the locally managed network operating protocol, either one of those, that was 10 bucks. And I would always do the advanced network analysis language, which would just tickle me. But Bloom would all, he was able to do, yes, we have our locally managed network operating protocol and people just eat that shit up. Good times.

1:25:17 Good times. Good times bullshitting the minions. You have this FrankenRamble clip, which I just want to say right now. Hey, hey kids! Freddy the Firewall says eat your FrankenRamble! Sounds like a breakfast cereal. FrankenRamble now with 13 essential vitamins. Yeah, this is Franken is on and he doesn't know what to do. He sounds, always sounds like he's half in the can anyway, but he's, you know, he's a ramble. Here it comes. Non-Americans. And I, look, my feeling is this, is that the American people are skeptical of executive power. That when there is a lack of transparency, they tend to suspect that something, they tend to be very skeptical and suspect abuse.

1:26:13 And part of the reason to have transparency is for people to be able to make their decisions based on some real information about whether or not this power is being abused or not. Now I believe that you gentlemen have our national security at interest. That's your interest. That is your interest. No, that's your job, idiot. I also believe that uh... we you know you keep saying there are three there's oversight from all three branches of government we're one of the branches we're doing the oversight okay we're feeling it my feeling in doing the oversight is that i would be more comfortable and that the american people would be

1:27:07 more comfortable and feel that they can decide for themselves if they knew how many Americans were being caught up in a program like 702 that is designed by law not to target Americans. So I think, Senator, absolutely, but I would just put into this that what we're going to do is if asked to do that we're going to give you faithfully and truthfully that which we know. Okay, yeah. It's a blackmailing operation. Yeah. He's new though, they don't have a lot on him. They'll find it though. He probably likes water sports or something like that. Franken seems like that kind of guy. Water sports guy. They'll find it.

1:27:49 He'll change his tune. I think he's already changed his tune. He's pretty soft. This was soft. Yeah. I don't see anybody with their hackles up on any of these committees actually going after these guys. They've all gotten the memo. They got an anonymous email. Look at this photo. This photo we got here. Oh, by the way, you want to hear a funny conversation? Hey, by the way, it's your conversation. Play it. You know, you go on and on. There it is. It's clip of the day here at the office. Yeah, we've been listening to this for a long time. Now what was that you were going to ask us at the hearing? You know what would be a great question and then you give them a question to ask them. Ask me about the subs. That would be it. Lead me into the sub story.

1:28:26 The Krypton released a pretty cool document which I put a copy of it into the show notes 574.na shownotes.com. It's called full disclosure NSA GCHQ hacks. It's a PDF. I'll read through that. It's a lot about the UK but I think it applies to the US as well about the routers and the back doors that are built into certainly the British telecom routers. And it's a technical document, but it's understandable and they do go into depth if you really want to replicate it. And how keys are stolen, the 3G, 4G mobile, it's called

1:29:11 Full disclosure, NCSA GCHQ sources and methods uncovered. Anyone who has, who is interested in this, you should definitely have a read. Technical, and there's challenges, if you want to challenge the technical aspect, they're very open to that. So it's a good doc, and I'm not quite sure who authored this. But it was released through Cryptome, and the Cryptome of course, the guys who originally were with WikiLeaks but left because they felt that WikiLeaks was a CIA operation. Duh. I like what Cryptome does. So it's a lot about British Telecom, but I think it applies to a lot of the equipment being used in the United States as well. And that kind of stuff is good. And just opting out of things. Just opt out. I know it's my weekly thing, but you don't need it.

1:30:04 Did you see what, uh, so Yahoo Mail has been down for what, a week now? I don't know this. Yeah, yeah. It's been down, well, maybe three days. Yahoo Mail is broken. Uh, Gmail is now, from what I understand, when you are composing an email, so let's say I was using Gmail, which I don't, I have my own email server. I used Gmail to send you the clips. I didn't have any problems. It may happen. What, I've seen screenshots where you will compose, you compose it in Gmail itself? Yeah. Okay. It may say you can send Adam Curry $20 through Gmail. Why would I want to do that? Well, I'm just saying they're trying to be like PayPal I guess. They have the through the Gmail wallet system or whatever and it'll pop up in your compose window. It'll pop up and say would you like to send Adam Curry $20. So now they're spamming you while you're in compose mode

1:31:04 Gmail changed the way they're doing images to ensure that marketing companies can track you, which is great for us for the newsletter. So now you can no longer choose to not open images. We don't track our listeners. No, you producers. We didn't quite open that we through MailChimp we can see if someone opened it. Yes, we can. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. It's not tracking. You see if you opened it. Which by the way, most of you don't. No, people get on the mailing list and they just don't care. They hate us. But you see what's happened with Gmail.

1:31:40 Which is a so-called free service. They're spamming you now to send money to your friends in your compose window. I'm sure they're going to sell access to, eventually they'll sell it, to marketers. And so now images are loaded by default and so that sends it back and now everyone knows if you've loaded your image. They're putting stuff like our newsletter into the promotions tab, which they put ads at the top of the promotions tab. When will you just get smart and opt out? And you don't have to build your own email server. Get a community server. Find the one kid on the block who's smart, and y'all pay him three bucks, and he'll set it up and he'll run it. It's not that hard. You have that essentially. You have a community email server, the guy who does your email.

1:32:26 Isn't he kind of like a small... Well, he's a commercial guy. It's c-t-y-m-e dot com. Yeah, he's not so great on the branding, but he's a commercial guy. And maybe not a branding genius. But yeah, there's not a lot of people that have email through him, but you can do this. You can do this with a small group of people and someone else can run the web server and you can do this. You don't have to... Not everyone has to learn how to do it. You don't need a phone. Yeah, no, this is your common complaint. I mean... It's not a complaint, it's... Well, I mean, I think it's fine. I don't walk around with a phone all the time. So this does lead into something else. Which brings me to a point I want to make before you continue with this rant. So I got this HTC One phone that I got from Leo. Which sucks.

1:33:22 Which totally blows because the battery just drops dead and no, I mean just... charge me. So the battery's no good. I mean it's a fast, de-charging. It's getting, it gives me, I got, no I took the sim out. There's no sim because I don't, I gotta get the phone fixed. So he, but without the sim, it still gets me news and weather. Yeah, through the Wi-Fi. No, I got the Wi-Fi off. What? I still get the temperature. Does it have a sensor? No, it can't do that. How does it do that? Well, I think it's the same feature that most of these phones now have which is you can dial 911 emergency calls on all phones with or without a SIM card. So this thing is in contact whatever the case. Interesting. So I think data is still flying around. Without the SIM card I believe that the phone is still tracking you. Yeah, I'm pretty sure of that. Wow.

1:34:16 Yeah, I just have the iPod touch and I keep the Wi-Fi off until I'm at a place where I want to check something. And I've built up a nice little database of, you know, friends' houses and, you know, there's a couple of, like, House Young, we're on Saturday. And the rest of the time, guess what? I just don't, I'm not disturbed, I don't watch anything, I don't read anything, I don't care. And I have a nice life. I talk with my wife in the car. We listen to the wireless. We discuss things that we hear on the wireless. We talk about friends and family. and plans for the future. But there is a mission and I think that by the way the truck, the FBI surveillance truck fell way down on the thing and lost its connection. I think it drove off. Yeah, they've got what they need to know.

1:35:04 I've been tracking these guys at code.org for a while. Now they came out with something new, which I think I understand what it's about. It's definitely a part of Common Core because all the usual suspects were involved. This is a new campaign called Hour of Code. You may not be able to hear all the celebrities in this, although you hear some obvious ones. Gates, you'll hear Steve Jobs, they took a piece of him from a long time ago. Taking the dead man's words, way to go guys. They've got Zuckerberg in here, they've got Ashton Kutcher, they've got Shakira. And they want, well I'll tell you what they want and then we'll figure out what's going on, but listen to this commercial.

1:35:51 And I'm Tanya. And we're lucky enough to be studying computer science. Hi, I'm Tanya. We think it's terrible that 90% of schools don't teach it. They definitely didn't offer it at my high school. So we're trying to make this video to show that anybody can learn. We want to get 10 million students to do the Hour of Code. Hour of Code. Hour of Code. The Hour of Code. Hour of Code. Hour of Code. Hour of Code. How do you get him to get to the sunflower? He needs to do some actions. I got it. And then we'll run it and see what happens. There we go. You just wrote your first program. I wrote it? Yeah. This is the code that you just wrote. Very awesome. I thought like code was like FBI hacker symbols and stuff. A little bit of problem solving, a little bit of logic. It's like construction. Programming is a lot easier today. Don't just play on your phone, program.

1:36:45 How does someone go about getting a job? Maybe take an online class, find a class at a community college. You could get one of the best paying jobs in the world. I think medicine's moving into the whole computer age. Technology touches every part of our life. If you can create technology, you can change the world. So we're excited that you are participating in today's Hour of Code. We just did two lines of code. Four lines. Seven lines. Five lines. Three lines. Four lines. Five lines. Six lines. Seven lines. Eight lines. Nine lines. Ten lines. Sixty lines. Ninety-nine lines. Sixty lines. Eighteen lines of code. Seventy-five lines of code. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how old you are.

1:37:28 Whether you're a young man or a young woman, whether you live in a city or a rural area, everybody in this country should learn how to program a computer. And I just completed the hour of code. It's actually really easy to learn. Girls should learn this too. Understand that language. That's going to be the future. Anyone can learn computer science and you can learn too. Jack Dorsey, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, all of y'all. I'm learning. Give it a shot. So this is the Hour of Code promotion, hourofcode.com, which leads to code.org. I saw the short version of this. I didn't know what to make of it. I didn't have not, I don't know, was that long? I haven't heard that long version. That's pretty interesting. Yeah, and when the president says, learn how to program your phone, I'm like, oh, okay.

1:38:21 So what the Code.org is an advocacy group and initially I was like, wow, it hurts me to say this but I think this is kind of a good idea. They want to get computer science on the curriculum, of course as a part of Common Core and these companies, if you look at who, about us, Code.org, you'll see it's all basically all Silicon Valley. And then I realized a couple things. This is weeding out. They want it in schools to weed out the weak brothers and sisters who will have no prospect in what these people, these techno-scientists nut jobs, and I'm going to explain why I think that in a moment, what they have no use for. So they need to know early on, can you code? And this is important. Coding is, yes, you can learn the logistics of coding,

1:39:19 You can learn to understand what it is. Writing code, it's like saying everyone can be a poet. You know, everybody can be a writer. No! Everyone can write, not everybody can be a writer. Everyone can code, not everyone can be a coder. It is as much an art form as it is a science. You can approach problems from many different angles and now it starts to make sense with how many engineers like this common core math because it's the engineers that this schooling system, which is funded by Silicon Valley, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and others, it is funded by them. They only want to weed out everyone else who is not a coder.

1:40:02 And it's a talent contest. It's like a giant reality show, only when you get voted off this island, you go down the conveyor belt into the fast food business. Because you're just not going to be necessary anymore according to them. I think it's very very problematic what their true mission is I'm all for teaching people code But I'm very worried there with all these big data systems and tracking the students progress And they all you know let's see how they're doing and the teacher has to feed it back and put it into a chart It's gonna be like oh Yeah, Johnny likes kicking the ball around and likes playing his guitar and and he likes sculpting and woodwork. Yeah, I'm sorry Johnny, you can just stay behind. You're not going anywhere. And we'll give all these other kids, we'll give them scholarships and opportunities to code for us. And this is a problem because we've gotten to this point in society

1:40:53 where the politicians are heralding scientists and rich Silicon Valley people like Bill Gates as the knowledge, as the true answer, as always correct. they are not. And they are using scientists as rock stars. Witness what took place just this weekend, funded by the same douchebags. We now have a... we are literally making scientists and coders and

1:41:28 into rock stars. This is the new rock star and we're giving them the budgets and taking their knowledge as if it is the prophecy because how can you argue with the rich Bill Gates? How can you argue with the rich Mark Zuckerberg? They're rich so clearly they must be right. Mark Zuckerberg says the world's top scientists deserve fame and Fame and fortune. Some of them got a taste of celebrity on Thursday night at the Breakthrough Awards. It's a sort of Oscars for scientists and it's backed by the Facebook mastermind along with Google co-founder Sergey Brin and some other notable names in tech. Award winning shared a $21 million prize pot. Dan Simon spoke to Zuckerberg about his hopes for the project. The big goal here is to treat and honor scientists.

1:40:53 where the politicians are heralding scientists and rich Silicon Valley people like Bill Gates as the knowledge, as the true answer, as always correct. they are not. And they are using scientists as rock stars. Witness what took place just this weekend, funded by the same douchebags. We now have a... we are literally making scientists and coders and

1:41:28 into rock stars. This is the new rock star and we're giving them the budgets and taking their knowledge as if it is the prophecy because how can you argue with the rich Bill Gates? How can you argue with the rich Mark Zuckerberg? They're rich so clearly they must be right. Mark Zuckerberg says the world's top scientists deserve fame and Fame and fortune. Some of them got a taste of celebrity on Thursday night at the Breakthrough Awards. It's a sort of Oscars for scientists and it's backed by the Facebook mastermind along with Google co-founder Sergey Brin and some other notable names in tech. Award winning shared a $21 million prize pot. Dan Simon spoke to Zuckerberg about his hopes for the project. The big goal here is to treat and honor scientists.

1:42:16 in the way that they should be recognized by society. Mark Zuckerberg changed the world with Facebook. Now he wants to change how the world looks at scientists to make them more revered like Hollywood celebrities. You think that's an attainable goal to change the way people look at scientists? Absolutely, absolutely. I mean it used to be the case back in Albert Einstein's day that I mean he really was viewed as you know part of pop culture and a rock star in his time. Is that true? Was Albert Einstein viewed as a rock star in pop culture in his time? I don't know. I don't think so. I mean, we did see him crop up in the survey that done at Princeton in 1939 where Hitler was the most important guy and Einstein was second. Close second.

1:43:03 No, it wasn't a close second at all. I questioned this. I'm not going to take that as a fact. We have to research that. But it goes on because... Wait until you find out who's really behind this. It's really a shame that we've lost that. So with stars like Kevin Spacey... This guy, Kevin Spacey, somehow he gets a pass on the technology thing. Because, I don't know, he did a podcast with Jason Calacanis. I don't know why. He's like Silicon Valley's darling, because he's kind of a name, he'll act for money.

1:43:38 You know, he has no screwballs, doesn't give a shit what he's doing. He's always, oh, Kevin Spacey's so cool. Let's play poker with Kevin Spacey. He's cool. To see the geeks and the nerds get a really fantastic night. And Conan O'Brien. Nerds seem to have the upper hand these days, don't they? When I was a kid, it was jocks. Zuckerberg helped organize an Oscars-like award show, complete with paparazzi and red carpet. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. to shine the spotlight on some of the world's smartest people. Do you want this to be the most prestigious prize in science? I don't know if we think about it in those terms. I love it when someone asks Zuckerberg a question, do you want to, do you want this? And he always answers with we.

1:44:18 And I wonder if he means the team or the royal we. I'm afraid he actually speaks about himself in the third person because he's a dick like that. People. Do you want this to be the most prestigious prize in science? I don't know if we think about it in those terms, but we certainly want this to be both a- Hold on a second, we must fart. Meaningful reward for the scientists and something that's public so that way It can be an aspirational goal to children who are growing up and other folks who are thinking of going into science. The idea first came from this man, Russian billionaire and technology investor Yuri Milner. I used to be a physicist a long time ago and I think that I'm sort of

1:44:59 I had this idea to give back to the people that I belong one day to. He convinced his Silicon Valley friends, including Zuckerberg and Google co-founder Sergey Brin, to fund the event. Each winner, seven of them in all, getting $3 million each, making it the most lucrative award of its kind. This is Yuri Milner. He's the guy behind it and he didn't have to convince much. He's a huge investor in Facebook, Zynga, Twitter, Spotify, 23andMe, Groupon, Alibaba, Google. He didn't have to convince much. He's like, hey, you will do this. And I give money to winners.

1:45:41 Well, he didn't give any money apparently. There's three billion dollars per winner. No, no, they came from Zuckerberg and the other guys though. You know what I mean. Yeah, well sure, I mean I'd love to give away money if it was somebody else's money. This is not a good policy. This is not, this makes no sense. We're forcing it on people. This idea that politicians are all in on this. And this is how you wind up with Common Core. This is how you wind up with the PBS News Hour changing. This is how you wind up with vaccines being tested on black children in Africa, not even the white ones.

1:46:22 Well, let's go look at this for a second. First of all, there's plenty of awards for scientists. I would say the Nobel Prize being one of them. That is a big event that celebrates science, but it's usually accomplished science. It's not somebody working on something. Not just money. Like, I got a lot of money. And then there's the MacArthur Foundation grants, which are the genius grants, which go to mostly scientists and people working on some kind of... That's the working on group. And people like Laura Poitras. Yeah, Laura Poitras. They say, well, you know, she makes these little films and she's going to starve to death without our money.

1:46:58 Okay, well let's give her some money or don't worry they get a memo from the CIA saying hey here's the list that you will be once you give money to we don't know or the big secret or the FSB I mean this is the Russians determining who gets who wins this we have no idea because it's a secret yeah so they have these events and they give a bunch of money away this is a probably definitely worth following Well, I'm just seeing so much of it and I'm seeing this weeding out if you can't code you're gonna be no good, you're gonna be an invalid. Invalid human. Must die. It all has to be about science, technology, engineering and math. Yeah, sure, but in order to have a fully rounded society you need some of these other things and other people and other skills. Well the joke of it is the interest in science and engineering or as they like to say STEM

1:47:49 Stem. So the stem interest is really waning in this country. There is no, there's no appeal. If they think that they're going to, we don't, I don't even know who these people are. So they're going to give one of the awards to like neurobiologist, Cornelia, uh, bargeman or Bergman, Bargman. I get what is it? Bargman. geneticist Hans Clevers, molecular biologist Napoleon Ferrara. So what? These guys don't have TV shows. Hey everybody, Napoleon Ferrara with you here, top of the hour. How you doing? Here's my buddy Hans Clevers. These people, these

1:48:26 This is not the way you do peer pressure to get the public to get interested in STEM or anything else. This is just a stupid giving away. This is mostly for them. Zuckerberg gets to be on stage. No one ever invites him to do anything. And ever since that movie where he was, you know, played by somebody else and he kind of did Saturday Night Live, he got the bug. He wants to be in show business. That's right. He wants to be. I'm sorry. They all want to be in show business. So let me put get me up on the stage. I'll buy it. I can't wait until he gets wrapped up in it and then he you know because of course these guys get all wrapped up and then before you know it you know there's a picture of him getting boned by a tranny snorting coke this is what always happens I can't wait thank you NSA I can't wait hey while we're on that topic I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab

1:49:23 Tall order today, Joe. Tall order. I hope you're prepared. There's hardly anybody on this list. Hello, you had a whole bunch of make it rain make do. I have an announcement to make. Uh oh. So I, I, I use the word so too much. I haven't got the, I am not on my regular machine. I'm on the writing machine and I've got it hooked up. So it's a direct connection to the internet. But I, but all my, everything is on over in the other work area of this office. I cannot do the make it rain segment today. I will move it all with the same name Wow the Thursday show I mean is but is your stuff on the on the broken hard drive or is it printed? It's on the other machine though and the other machines the audit service So I will have to put this off until Thursday where I guarantee that everybody who's requested it the additional names that came up today I think there's one

1:50:22 uh... to will all be done on thursday including kimberly and all the other people we have made him come on stage next thursday in the next thursday show okay the best i can do but meanwhile we do have a few people think alan uh... cavito is the third in middle of the in virginia who came in with a nice one two three four five and i said tell myself i was not going to donate more than once a year to you guys but the stories and info you produce are so good So insightful and so well researched that I cannot help but donate a second time. There you go Keep up the good work. Happy Christmas. Thank you very much. Well that that warms me Because that's why we do it. There's a value for value proposition. You get some value you sit there you go Hey, that was valuable. It's an interesting one from Simon Reid out in New York City to 120 dollars 21 dollars and 20 cents He wants a late congratulations to Eric what he really means is JC. Let's guilt jr. Yeah

1:51:22 And he wants some engagement karma since he took John's lead on anniversaries, which in other words you have to do something on a memorable date. Right. Otherwise you're gonna forget and the women get mad. And pop the question on 1212. Oh well, here is some engagement karma for you. You've got karma. And of course that's why he did 1212-0. 1212-0. Ah, right. Right? Andrew Walker in Cranberry Township, Pennsylvania, $111, Love & Sisters. I think he sent an email in with somebody he wanted to make it rain for and I'll have to go dig that up. And we'll do that again, like I said, on Thursday. Patrick, if you don't do these on Thursday, I'm going to stop the show. Okay, don't worry, I'll do them. No problem. Patrick, this is a big...

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1:52:59 Uh, beg and pray for Leo. Okay, we'll put you on the list. Yeah, well, and Leo will be in the... And the other guy. There's two men now in this. This is a crazy club. I think we should have... Who's the other guy? Who's on... What's on the... We should put Leo with the other guy. Okay, we'll do a sex act. It's a show. A double show. A double header. Eric Halbert, 100 bucks, South Ogden, Utah. cutting-edge solutions in Scotland, Glasgow it is a matter of fact, $100. Andrew Green, $100 from London, England. A lot of, this is nice. We'd like to see these over-specific deals. Yeah, it's fantastic, I love it. Murray Stone in Stowe, Vermont. He did send a note, I do have it here. Handwritten, longhand. It's on the back of a natural local grass-fed beef operation in East Montpellier, Vermont that sells a lot of nice, I'm gonna ship some beef my way.

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1:55:32 He says, did John and Adam please find my attached knighthood accounting? Today I believe I have achieved baronet and yes. Please refer to me henceforth as Sir Philip Meason, knight sequestered baronet of Paus, as I believe I'm the only knight to ever get his knighthood sequestered on the show. Did we sequester him? I don't remember this. But I do like the name Powe's. Yeah, we'll give it to you regardless. I just, you know, we don't have enough. Fine. That's what he is now. You're good. You're good to go. Tyler Fox in Flagstaff, Arizona. 55 bucks. Greg Stone, Double Nickels on the Dime, Rapid City, South Dakota. Sir Jimmy, Free Hollow Books. Yay! Double Nickels on the Dime, Summerfield, North Carolina.

1:56:15 Well, by the way, I should mention Greg Stone's... check this out. DakotaBisonFurniture.com is his dad's business. DakotaBisonFurniture.com. I want to give it a plug because there's some really nice looking stuff on there. Daniel Ostermeyer, Salong Beach, California. Dorian Kronitsky, Rockridge, Pennsylvania and 50 bucks each from Mike Westerfield who's our loyal listener. Brandon Savoy. That's some beautiful furniture. That's another American outfit that makes stuff in America with American buffalo. Yeah, and and looks like American dudes putting it together. Yeah, and finally Jeremy Robbins of 50 bucks That's the end of our list. Yeah, no I looked at the furniture It looks like really high quality especially the leather stuff is dynamite But then if you look on the sale page you got a bunch of stuff on sale There's some nice wing backs and some other normal looking things that are very expensive. Yeah, cuz I'm looking at products I'm like okay, that's nice not for Adam on sale. Okay. Yeah, I see I

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1:59:51 even though we're way short today. I would want to read one more. Well, actually, no, I have a letter from one of our donors about Ukraine, but let's get this other stuff out of the way and we'll move it into the segment. Happy belated birthday to Dame Tanya. Sorry that we missed that. I can't believe it. I should be sending you love and kisses and hugs. We'll do it as of this congratulatory notice. And Sir Ray Jacobson congratulates his niece Katie. She turns 21 today. Send pictures to your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:00:34 And while on the birthday note I should mention that Dame Tanya works at Corso in Berkeley not Cosmo Okay Somebody says there's no place named Cosmo Because I guess he's gonna go over there and say hello We have a lot of nights and riding around trying to find Cosmo so it's Corso and you can go in there find when she's working go in there and have some of these great little restaurant and and tipper And tipper big, tipper big. Tipper big, tipper gore. Let's pull out the blade here. Of course, Sir Philip Meason becomes the sequestered baronet of Pause. There's no ceremony for that. But we do have, let's see, Eric F., and we thank you first of all for your courage, sir. And you didn't want much in the way of your rewards. Very simple.

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2:02:23 Let's start with a little Ukraine comment from the State Department so we know that you know these guys are still in play with the US of A. What's the clip? It's a little Ukraine comment from the State Department. Our buddy at the State Department. Oh, a little. It's alphabetical. So you know I'm looking under the L for little but it's a little. Yeah, a little. Ukraine, can you provide any greater clarity than Jen was able to yesterday about the kinds of sanctions that you have on the table? No. Again, that's one tool in the toolbox that we are considering, but I don't want to get farther down a path that we're not, you know, haven't gone farther on and I just don't have any more details. But it's certainly something that's on the table.

2:03:07 Also on Ukraine, and this has happened just as you were coming down, I think the EU has said it's going to help Ukraine to obtain an IMF loan, which I think they believe would sweeten the deal towards signing an association agreement with the European Union. Where would the United States stand on that, given that the United States does have quite a lot of influence within the IMF? Specifically on whether the EU? No, on whether the United States would support... The IMF providing this? Yeah. I don't know the answer to that. I'm happy to check in with our folks and see where we would stand on that issue. I just don't know. Did that reporter not once but twice say the United-stan? Instead of United States? United-stan? Maybe. United-stan? United-stan. And of course, what's her name? This NARF girl, whatever her name is. And then this one time at band camp?

2:04:01 She has no, exactly, she doesn't answer any questions at all. She goes, I'll get back to you, I'll get back to you. So we do have a, we do have a kind of a foot on the ground thing here, but... Did you see the new one that came in? We had a new email come in this morning. Dorian Kronitsky in Rockridge, Pennsylvania. I just want to read this note for background for the listeners. Thanks for the great work. He, he, she, I don't know. Could be either. It's one of those, it's a generic name. Note on the whole Ukraine protests and Russia. I'm a first-generation Ukrainian in America and went to the Ukrainian Saturday school. The hatred for Russians was taught us often. I've been told and did some of my own reading that the Russians took Ukraine's original name, Rus'.

2:04:48 stole their name. I'm not sure how actual that is, but it's something we were taught for reasons to be distrusting, etc. to the Russians. Years ago when I was in grade school, I did a report on the Ukraine's part in World War II. The Nazis overthrew the Ukrainian territory with little conflict because the Ukrainian people welcomed the Nazis because anything was better than the Russians. That's funny. So this is the situation that we have to always know in the back of our minds when we watch any of these events taking place in Russia, including this ridiculous protest which are completely out of control. I was watching one of them. Rarely, but once in a while it would be good if we had video on the show. So there's a big protest and the cops, one group of police, are beating the shit out of everybody with billy clubs. Just beating and beating them.

2:05:40 Some guy it was they're all running and with some guy fell and he just stayed down and he curled up into a ball on the ground and about six Russian car Russian or Ukrainian police, whatever they were security were kicking him and beating him and kicking him and beating him and then they ran off and to go beat somebody else and another group came by and started kicking him and beating the same guy and then they ran off and then a couple of other guys did drive-by kicks. They ran past the guy and kicked him just to kick him because he was down and then another group came and started beating the crap out of him. It was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. It's their culture. That's how it rolls. That's how they roll. It's astonishing. The way I understand this, there's definitely provocateurs. There's two groups. As of this morning,

2:06:26 The deal seems to be on hold. The deal is not all that big. The European Union is offering less than a billion dollars. Right, that's why I think this IMF thing is in play. Yeah, right. We can't give you much money, but we can give you this great loan. This little goodie bag of stuff. I actually have a Euronews piece on this which I thought was maybe worth listening to. I'm filing this now under TransEurasia. Because I'm pretty sure that this is, you know, it's all about how can you help us with this damn train. Ukraine's capital split over the government and divided over Europe. Tens of thousands of people have gathered in central Kiev to show support for President Viktor Yanukovych. Many of them believe closer integration with the EU is a mistake.

2:07:18 Why don't I want the EU? We won't be asked to join it for another 15 years. We won't get visas. They'll simply push their goods on us, like Polish bacon, which is much worse than the Ukrainian one, as we all know. So now we know what it's really about. Is that we don't want the damn Polish bacon? Don't buy the Polish bacon. Sounds horrible. Also, we can't let homosexual couples adopt our children. Now you're talking. This is the talk of men. This is counter-programming. I mean, obviously... Hello, of course. This is... You sound like a racist idiot who doesn't like the Polacks or gays. This is propaganda. Because the kids will turn out like their parents.

2:08:04 This is your own news. I can't believe they should have said this may be propaganda, this may be a provocateur. No, we don't take your Polish bacon and your fags and get out of here. Others are less concerned about the dangers of a closer relationship with Europe, like them gays in the bacon, but more worried about losing out on ties with Russia. Maybe we need to sign something with the EU, so that our goods go over there. The gas, obviously. But we can't lose our ties with Russia, because Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are part of a single family.

2:08:44 The pro-Yanukovych rally was held just a few hundred meters from Independence Square. A title for the show, Bacon and Butt Boys, is a new title. Pro-EU protesters have been demonstrating for weeks. They've been calling for Yanukovych's government to resign for suspending talks on an EU trade pact last month. Some, like this man, visited the rival protest. We're inviting people to come to our side because they're brainwashed. They're being forced to think that we are, I don't know, Nazis, nationalists, that we'll beat them up and kill them. This cannot end well. This is not... We're going to have a huge...

2:09:26 Bloodbath. They're literally on two sides of the street now. It's not like this, you understand? Security has been stepped up amid fears of possible clashes between those who support the government and those who want it to fall. There you go. I think you're right, this is not going to end well. This is going to be a bloody, it's going to be a mess. And so you can see it, I mean if you get to watch these foreign, these, you know, Euronews, FanCat, any of these guys who actually cover this as opposed to the United States news operations that don't cover anything that's international, even though they call it world news. Well let's just stay with this for a moment because I think a lot of this, I'm shoehorning into my new trans-Eurasian rail theory

2:10:15 And we really, it would be great to have the Ukraine. China has now opened high-speed rail talks with Vienna before they're to take the rail from Vienna to the Black Sea. And of course the Chinas are going to finance that and then just open now in Euroland. A direct TGV rail link between Paris and Barcelona begins today. The new service will take 6 hours and 25 minutes. No change is needed at the border. Stations served along the route include Girona and Figueres in Spain and Perpignan-Narbonne, Montpellier, Nîmes and Valence in France. Yeah, that's gonna be great for the freight.

2:10:56 Yeah, well they actually do a lot of passenger stuff and you can take those trains. I want to tell people that... Hold on. What Frenchman wants to go to Spain? To Barcelona? No. No, it's for tourists. Like I've taken the TGV up and down from Paris to Bordeaux a couple of times. Yes, but not to Barcelona. Barcelona? Barcelona. I would take it, but it's beside the point. You're right. So mostly for, and if you are in one of those things, you see nothing but freight going by. Freight, freight. Yeah. And let me just, I just want to tell people that have never been on one of these trains, especially the ones in the South of France from Paris headed South, that as opposed to the thalys and these things that are up North that are clunking around at, you know, regular tracks.

2:11:37 It's the boringest ride ever because the things are in a pit. Yeah, it is. They drop them down into a pit So if you look out you see nothing you don't get to see the French countryside You don't get to see anything because it's kind of quaint to take a regular train. It's a horrible ride I do not recommend it. I want to go to Barcelona take a plane while we are on the topic of propaganda that euro news report by the way is very propagandistic very disappointing and That is now, you know, they're, I always knew they were compromised, but wow, to do that with the bacon butt boys and everything, that was an outrage. Not even disclaim it. Meanwhile, a big problem back in the United States, a fracas in the press room, and we identified this taking place and now it's gotten to a head, and there's a little interesting gotcha at the end of this clip.

2:12:31 The White House themselves are releasing photographic material and they're doing that of events where they specifically keep the press out. So on Air Force One when we had the Clintons, the Bushes, and the Obamas flying to Nelson Mandela's celebration of selfies. And half of Congress apparently. I think 35 members of Congress. At least. The press was not allowed to take any pictures Even though they were on the plane, the White House has their own photographer and they release them on the internet. Now, photojournalism is incredibly important.

2:13:10 Because a picture can sometimes speak a thousand words and you can also manipulate pictures and stage them and do many things. And for the White House to not allow the press to take photos but release photos themselves, that's kind of like, I don't know, like Goebbels did. It's kind of like Leni Riefenstahl. It's kind of propagandistic by itself and the press are mad about it. and they were vocal and Carney put his foot in his mouth when they brought this up in the press conference. And at the end we learned something interesting about the photojournalists. A lot of this, some of this anyway has to do with fundamental transformations in the media that of which we and other institutions are simply participants. But we did not create the internet, this administration.

2:14:04 We didn't create the internet. This administration did not create... We created everything else, but this administration did not create the internet. So we could just... We're just going with the flow. The internet had nothing to do with Air Force One. There was constraint... Hold on. Go ahead. Our problem is the access. You can put out a million pictures a day from White House photography, you bar. And what I'm saying that it is, and what I'm saying is that we are going to work with, we are going to, as past, past White Houses have done. And we're- hold on, John. And so have we. But just not- do you think that- hey, guys, if you're telling me that on every flight that President Bush took and every flight that President Clinton took- Oh, shut up. But what I'm saying is- Guys, what I'm saying is we hear you and I want to address this. And I want to work with photographers to, you

2:14:58 improve that situation and see if we can be responsive to your concerns. All I'm noting in answer to Michael's question is that this is part of a bigger transformation that's happening out there that's driven by the ability of everyone to post anything on the internet free of charge so that you don't have to buy that newspaper or subscribe to that wire service. He's actually threatening them here, I think. He's really threatening like, hey, we don't need people. People don't need to go to you anymore. We can go direct with our propaganda. That's true, Ann. It's true. Yeah. The Internet had nothing to do... The Internet had nothing on Air Force One. We understand there were constraints in Africa on the ground, but the Internet had nothing to do on Air Force One when you had a large group of reporters in the pool, photographers there as well. Who could have come up with Pete Souza to the front of Air Force One and taken a couple of pictures? Maybe not as many as Pete Souza did, but

2:15:58 We were not allowed. And you can post as many as you want. Yes, but you could have allowed us to get the evidence. I hear you, April. I hear you. And I'm saying that those are the kind of issues we're going to address. And I want to work with the Correspondents Association and the and the photographers to see if we can be responsive in a way that allows them more of the access that they seek and obviously also allows us to operate the way every other White House. Now we're going to hear something very interesting. We've always wondered about the clicks, the loud clicking of the photographers and why in this day and age are they all clicking away?

2:16:38 Yeah, they're making a lot of racket when you can make a camera virtually silent. Guess they they want to be known that they're here. Hey, we're journalists to click click click click But it was kind of interesting I Think I have a noisy camera here. Let me see on this desk now the best piece of propaganda Which this was better. This was better than we've even done it and of course completely underreported because That's pretty good because there is no actual footage, but okay, let's buy into it I almost wet my pants when I saw this report

2:17:36 The rabbit has landed. Called U-2 in Chinese or Jade Rabbit, this was the moment the rover touched down on board its lander, the Chang'e 3. Yeah, did you see all that dust that blew up from the animated thrust rockets? Oh, I'm sorry, no you didn't, because there was no dust blow-up. This is... At what point are we gonna move beyond Blair Witch Project and see how fake and phony this is? This is so stupid. Today they rolled their rover off of its cart one frame every three seconds. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's from the moon. We can't do full-frame video because it's really from the moon.

2:18:21 arriving right on target in an area known as the Bay of Rainbows and watched live across China on TVs like the one in a restaurant near Workers Stadium, Beijing. It marks another milestone in the Chinese space program, methodically following in the footsteps of the Russian and American exploits of years ago. Now, I want them to roll that rover of theirs right past our flag so we can see it. This is this is so bogative John even you have to admit. This is I mean they leave it so open again We have a an animation of how its landing and then we see something on the ground all of a sudden Oh, we'll switch to this other camera as we land because you can't actually see how we land Oh, yeah, we switch to the the the camera that shows the black sky. I mean, come on Are you buying this you think they're really on the moon? You know, it's funny because I kind of just ignored the whole thing. I

2:19:21 Well, why is that funny because I didn't think that you'd get so worked up about it. Well when you look at it It's just like that Mars rover. No, that was all over Twitter Everyone's bitching and moaning about this lousy video because it's fake Very well might be why wouldn't it be? Yeah, it's cheaper They got those new studios they built, you know, the Chinese best price and they got the new studios Which I think is a real giveaway. Yeah, they might as well use it. I Yeah, okay, just a but the it's like see you see me video was better 20 years ago and come on people you're This is real is getting in so you know actually to be honest about it the one I think it's a mistake to go that way They should have gone with extremely high resolution Yeah, be the show off that their technical expertise is so much better than anything anyone else is doing but instead they went with this cheap Yeah, like you said webcam look yeah

2:20:14 That is junky and it doesn't really it doesn't serve the party well. Well, I'm it's disappointing to me Mmm on the moon indeed and then you know, it's oh, it's so hard Oh, maybe one day if we're really lucky, we're really we make iPhones But if we're really lucky one day we can do what you did 40 years ago for really really good But it's so easy. We did it You don't believe what you want. I'll tell you this, Buzz Aldrin, he gets all pissed off when you question him on it. He starts hitting people. They can swing at you. Yeah, well, why is that? That's, you know, if he was, whatever, walk away. But no, he gets all angry and gonna beat you up.

2:20:57 Because the guy's traumatized by the lie he's had to tell all his life. Traumatized. Traumatized, I tell ya. Let's move from the Chinese to the North Koreans. Ooh, nice. What you got? So, uh... Hey! That's my bell. Yeah, that's alright, I gotcha. I gotcha covered. Uh, Kim... So he kills his uncle. He kills his uncle, makes a big deal out of it. And I want... It's like, apparently... His aunt is still alive, by the way. What? His aunt is still alive. He didn't kill her. He killed the uncle because the uncle was a part of a plot to overthrow the government, which seems to be treason of some sort. And in North Korea they don't put up with it. But it is the ABC slanted reporting that I thought was better than the actual incident because they go on with how this guy's trying to become the ruler.

2:21:48 Wow Kim Jung-un is now trying to consolidate his power. He's trying to take over the place He's killing this poor innocent guy just to show off his power And it's just believe me. This is the worst kind of this is ABC at its pinnacle of propagandistic crap Young leader Kim Jong-un has executed his once powerful uncle, labeling him, and I quote, worse than a dog, end quote. This morning the world is taking notice of this apparent and very brazen power grab. ABC's Martha Raddatz traveling in the power grab. Power grab? What do you mean power grab? She joins us now from Vietnam. Martha?

2:22:30 Good morning, Josh. The news of the execution has stunned this region of the world. Not only has Kim Jong-un executed a powerful older family member, but the execution was publicly announced, something the secretive nation just never does. Photos were released of the uncle being arrested, bound, and later dragged before a military tribunal, accused of trying to overthrow the young leader. He was called a traitor for all ages and despicable human scum. Experts fear this means the younger Kim has an even greater lust for power over the nuclear armed nation and will tolerate no dissent. Josh? I know, Martha, you will be covering it all. Thank you for that.

2:23:18 Wow, wow. Let's compare that to America where our president still keeps people who are hunger striking in Gitmo, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where they are starving themselves and where they have no due process. And you can take that to the bank and I'm totally going to close down Gitmo. And then there's this. The death toll now appears to be 15 with 5 more injured from a US drone strike in Yemen that missed its target this week and struck what witnesses described as a wedding party. Woohoo! That was the 24th reported drone strike in Yemen so far this year. Hey, habanagila everybody.

2:23:57 Good. Hey, how about this power grab? Moving on now, the former head of the Bank of Israel is about to become the vice chairman of America's Federal Reserve. Stanley Fisher, who led the Bank of Israel for eight years, has been asked to take over Janet Yellen's position at the US Fed. Yellen is set to take the top job from current boss Ben Bernanke, whose term ends in January. Fisher, who was born in Zambia, holds both Israeli and American citizenships. The announcement comes after the Bank of Canada's chief Mark Carney earlier this year became the first foreigner to lead the Bank of England. There you go, the international bankers making their moves. Wow, that guy sounds Mossad. Born in Zambia? Yeah, of course, born in Zambia, dual citizenship. This is a problem. Now, of course, the Fed is not an American institution.

2:24:47 This is why, you know, this is not even going to be reported on, but it's not an American institution. You know, it's a private collection of banks and you don't, you're not allowed to know who's actually members of this collective because that's secret. But there's an Israeli guy number two with the, with that Yellen, with that Yellen woman. Well, and then how about the, the other guy running the bank of England? Yeah. Another one. Yeah. It's the international bankers are making their move for sure. For sure. Talking about banking, there were two commercials that were online for Microsoft Dynamics. Hmm, what's this? And Microsoft Dyna... it's like... it's a horrible commercial that Microsoft obviously... I don't know what he was doing, but some guy playing plunk, plunk, plunk on the piano and then they have this guy talking to his various... kind of a litany of bankers.

2:25:45 that he uses to, and there's a spot in the music and they don't say anything, but it shows up on the screen and it's the phrase for Microsoft Dynamics which is an SAP kind of clone of some sort. It says, make happy. The idea is to make happy. Play the first one here. Meet Arturo. Two years ago he found the perfect place to put down roots. Mark, his relationship banker, put together a plan. Mark connected him with Clara in business banking who secured the financing. And Katya in customer service followed up to answer all of his questions. Which is how the teams, working together, were able to do one simple thing.

2:26:32 Make happy. Microsoft Dynamics. One integrated CRM that unites your teams. I didn't hear make happy in there. No, they don't say it. They just show it on the screen. Oh, okay. So I was jumping in where they would have said it. I'm looking at the website. Make happy. It doesn't say make happy here. That's what it says on the commercial, it says make happy. And what is this relationship? I'm going to go see my, honey, I'm going to see my relationship banker and my relationship banker will turn me on to some other banker who'll turn me on to customer service, the girl in India. This is a leader in the sales force automation. Okay.

2:27:10 Play the second one. There's a second commercial. It's got less bankers in it, but still has this make happy I I want that is our slogan can we get make happy calm is that available like it meet Elena? She responded to a retail promotion coordinated by Chris in marketing Seeing her customer profile Martin in sales recommended the perfect jacket Then Sarah customer service followed up to make sure she got everything she needed. Oh Which is how the teams working together were able to do one simple thing make happy Microsoft Dynamics one integrated CRM that unites your teams make a girl could buy a jacket It's a commercial for a girl buying a jacket. Well, the rigmarole they had to go through was she happy She make happy they have on this on this dynamics page. They have like they have like graphs of an upside-down of a funnel and

2:28:08 and the top is blue and then red. I guess the green at the bottom is where you make happy. Yeah, those guys are lost. No kidding. Are you doing Twit today? Yeah, I am as a matter of fact. Oh good, let's talk about some tech before you go up there then. All right. Let's see. Make happy. I got nothing. There's nothing except Gmail and the Yahoo thing we already talked about and Twitter changed their block. Did you see that? I heard about it, I didn't see anything different. Well, because they changed it right back. Oh, I missed it then. Yeah, they were making it so that even if you blocked someone, then they could still see your stuff.

2:28:52 Oh, that's no good. No, exactly. And everyone's like, oh, this is no good. The whole point is to block people. The whole point is you block them because you don't want to use Twitter. You want to use Twitter the way you want to use Twitter. I don't go to Twitter to take a bunch of gaff. Yeah, but you understand why this has been removed. Yeah, I understand now. Oh, why? Really? No. Because advertising does not always come as advertising. They don't want you blocking the advertisers. Yeah, you can't be blocking advertisers. Well, then people will stop using the service. I'm not going to use Twitter if I can't block people. Well, apparently that, well, that change will come. That change will come. Then I'll stop using it. It's not a big deal. I'm not married to Twitter. Here, I've got a thing for you. I want to tell, I'm going to ask you about this after we play. This is a clip from the State Department.

2:29:41 Starting with an S on a peculiar grammar usage that I just kind of took me back a second. First, as you know, Secretary Kerry's on travel to the Middle East. He spent last week discussing security issues and providing an update with General Allen on our detailed lengthy in-depth analysis. What? Link? Senator Kerry is on travel. Welcome back to Friday Briefings. I'm sorry that August is over. Oh, and this one time at band camp? I don't have anything at the top today. I stuck a flute in my pussy. Sorry, I just couldn't resist. Now, okay, now, so here's the... I want to discuss this on travel. And I've run into this before. I was at the wedding. Went to JC's and Jesse's wedding. Yeah, I heard about this. Congratulations. It was very well organized. Who organized it? And it was they there, two that did it. I mean, it was really... It was tight. Did they have clowns?

2:30:36 Besides me. Yeah, well Briefly you want just it was like a ceremony at the front They had this it was a sit-down thing afterwards like a dinner, and they had I just had I can't express it But it was just extremely nice. It was nice everything was covered It wasn't it wasn't like a screwed-up mess or anything sir and who did the the the father of the bride pay by the way? I think that no they ate the two of them did really which is weird and But I think the only thing was is they said some weird ceremony where they had to have open sex in front of everybody. Anyway, so I'm talking to somebody there. Was this part of your routine? Is that what you did with your stand-up? That's pretty bad. That's kind of my material. Yeah, exactly. Wait, wait, did you give everyone a No Agenda CD? I gave a couple away. The older people.

2:31:27 Everyone else a bunch of bots Hey, I'm the father of the groom here's this is what I do Have a listen kid. I'm sorry from talking to this woman and her boyfriend or her husband There's two people and she says and I've noticed this before and I've actually talked to buzzkill jr. About this I've talked to everybody in that millennial group and they all look at me like I got four eyeballs when I asked them to explain how this is this really the way to say it and She says, yeah, we were gonna do that but then, and then, oh yeah, the thing blew up on accident. Instead of by accident. By accident is what I would say. It was by accident it blew up, on accident. And that's why I triggered this thought because of this on travel. I've asked people about this in this millennial group, they all say what's wrong with that?

2:32:21 Every one of them, to a man and a woman, say, yeah, on accident. That's not... When did this happen? It's on purpose. On accident. I think that's where it stems from that you mentioned on purpose. Yeah. If it's on purpose, it can be on accident. Yeah. No, language changes, you know, it does happen. It's on purpose, it's on accident, it's on travel. And it used to be... What is this? Wait, why don't you... So by accident, not on accident, on purpose, I think you hit it by accident. On accident. On accident, I hit it. I can't even say on accident, it sounds so dumb. Oh, funny. Have you heard this? No, but I have heard several times, even here in Austin, is that the right temperature for you?

2:33:12 This I think is also stems from the he went to hospital and graduate university. Graduate university. And let me axe you a question. Well, that's from a different axe. Adam axe, Adam. That's when you ask Adam. Then, of course, there's more bullcrap from Colorado, which is partially the war on men. very young men, and partially bullying. A school district in Colorado has backed off a sexual harassment charge against a six-year-old boy. He was accused of kissing a classmate on the hand. The school called it sexual harassment and wanted to put it in his permanent file. Woo! Slave! Put it on your file, slave! Put him on the list! Put him on the list! A misconduct note in his school file instead. Oh, misconduct for kissing a girl on the hand! The mother of the girl involved is a teacher and says the school was doing its job.

2:34:04 Oh, doing its job. Listen to this biatch. He's a little boy and he's being silly and being naughty. Naughty? He needs to learn not to do that. But it's, you know, it's, there's forgiveness and it shouldn't be a huge story. It's a small thing. It's a school district doing what they're supposed to do. The little boy has returned to school and his mother says she's expecting an official letter from the school explaining the removal of the sexual harassment line from his record. No wonder these kids when they go to high school in Colorado, they're ready to shoot people. No wonder, you parents are insane there. It was a mistake, we can't do this. He was being naughty. Naughty! He's six! Put it on his record, he kissed a girl on the hand. And that mother, you could just... She was a teacher too.

2:35:00 Well that's inappropriate behavior. Aye, zay. Yeah, no, she's a horrible person. She's a horrible person. Alright. I've got one last clip. Oh, you can't, because I got a clip. You can finish it with your clip. I'm still with kids in schools. Oh, okay, if you got more kids in school, I'm game to wait. 150,000 children at New York City run preschools and daycare centers will be required to get a flu shot. Dr. Jay Varma is with New York City's Department of Health. We expect that this requirement will save tens of thousands of kids, maybe up to as many as 20 to 25,000 kids from getting severely ill.

2:35:40 We're going to save or create some kids, I think. Young children are among the most likely to be hospitalized or die from flu complications. Last flu season, 169 children died, four of them in New York City. Vaccine requirements for measles, mumps and rubella are common in many cities and states, but only Connecticut, New Jersey and now New York City require the flu shot. We should watch this because that's the tri-state area. Now, the tri-state area has required flu shots. We should watch when the flu hits, and I'm sure it will, and see how well it does, all these kids being safe. New York City Elementary School Principal Carol Schaffenberg says some parents have expressed concerns about safety. Parents are very scared. I think they should have their choice. Yeah. Whether they want to vaccinate their child or not. Yeah, but it's not up to you, educator.

2:36:31 principal of the schools, it's not up to you parents. Your kids belong to the state, they will do as we say. But the CDC considers the flu vaccine to be very safe with a small risk of side effects such as allergic reaction. What would you say to a parent who is concerned about how safe this vaccine is? The most important thing for parents to understand is that influenza is not the common cold. Influenza kills more children and hospitalizes more children than all other vaccine-preventable diseases in the United States combined. The risk of having a severe complication from the flu vaccine is extremely low. It's less than one in a million. Under the new rule, children younger than five will be required to get the flu vaccine by the end of 2014. I'm so happy that we don't have kids right now.

2:37:25 You notice, I don't know, I might be wrong on this, but I remember the flu every year. Oh, it usually starts in October. It hasn't done that for at least four or five years. And then it has, then there's a lot of reports on the local news. Oh, the flu, the flu, the flu. And they go on and on about it. And then they talk about the flu and you can get, you know, it goes on for like months. It goes like, you know, it starts in October, it goes into January and sometimes into February. Right. And there's a lot of reporting on it. I haven't seen that for a while. I'm convinced this may be this my little crackpotting thing of the day really okay I'm convinced that because of the modernization of China which is where the flu always stemmed from because it was a it was because of the farming practices where they kept the pigs and the ducks and all these things bump it into each other yeah I believe that the modernization of China is pretty much eliminated the flu the causality of the flu the where it comes from to begin with

2:38:21 I'm not seeing I think now the flu these guys are these guys are in trouble we're seeing a lot of this kind of promotion to get these shots sold because it's a lot of investment that went into this flu stuff because it was a moneymaker yeah but now there's like where's the flu Where is it? No, the bird flu is coming. Well, they got it this morning. I'm sorry. I have it here. I have the report. It's true. It's coming. A public health alert this morning. Hong Kong reporting its first human case of the H7N9 strain of bird flu. Made the move from birds to humans earlier this year in China and left more than 40 people dead. The Hong Kong patient reportedly visited China last month and had contact with poultry there. She is in hospital.

2:39:03 in critical condition in hospital has suspended imports of live poultry from three chinese farms yeah where was that report from i don't know who says in hospital in this country i think that was cnn uh... that's the i've seen is trying to be good trying to anglicize everything and that that that's exactly what they're doing i have my last thing okay Nancy Pelosi's nuts. Oh boy. It's funny, I wanted to end with a Pelosi clip. Well you can end with one. No, not if yours is better. This is her version of mathematics. They're trying to extend... This has been going on for, I don't know, decades. You know, this unemployment thing is just keep giving away... If I was lucky enough to get on the unemployment dole when it began in 2007 and it could stretch it, I wouldn't take a job in a million years.

2:39:56 But here's Pelosi's numbers. Merits of keeping the program alive. As far as unemployment benefits are concerned, the economic impact is clear. Every dollar spent on unemployment benefits grows the economy by a dollar fifty two cents according to Moody's analytics. A dollar and a half for every dollar we spend and that's a conservative estimate. When we just spend a trillion dollars we'll be out of the hole. Be done. I got a clip from her And as we know, the Democratic Party really is targeting mothers and women in general to just hate the Republicans. Because those, of course, are the only two parties who you can vote on. There's no third parties, I guess, in America. And so she needs to lay it on. But listen, I actually just left the whole clip in there because the way she talks, she's insane. She's senile. This is Pelosi. Yeah. She's senile.

2:40:57 It doesn't surprise me because we've been living with it for 26 years. For 23, say, of that time, I have told people that the Republicans in Congress are against family planning. It's not just about terminating a pregnancy. It's about disrespect for women in terms of their decision-making to the sizing or timing of their having a family. Having family, their time of having family. But people didn't really believe me until when the Republicans took the majority, one of the first things they did was to say we're going to shut down government rather than fund Planned Parenthood. The reaction they got to that was pretty loud and pretty clear. But that really finally said to people, see what I told you, they're not about just about abortion and being negative about that, which is one subject.

2:41:49 If you don't like abortion, and we don't know who likes that, but you should then support family planning. She talks herself into a corner like, yeah, they're against abortion. Well, of course, if you don't like abortion, well, who really likes it? I think everyone loves abortion, Nancy. I think it's great. Abortion is great. But they don't. And they've told me over and over again, we're not for family planning, domestically or internationally. It's a stunning thing. What is it, do you think, that keeps them on this anti-woman crusade or that wants to rewind the clock so many years? Leading the witness. One word, disrespect. Disrespect the role that... She's from CNN or the... No, she's the... She may be from CBS.

2:42:34 Yes, disrespect. They just disrespect women. What makes those Republicans so disrespectful and so such haters of women? Don't they have mothers? Yeah, I had this argument the other day. We have in Texas, I don't know if it's a, is Hobby Lobby, is that a nationwide firm? Hobby Lobby, it's it's it. I never heard of Hobby Lobby Hobby Lobby is a craft shop and it's funny because we have Michaels out here now I knew that this controversy was ongoing and I had in my mind. I gotta tell Mickey I gotta tell Mickey and I forgot Because she goes to Hobby Lobby all the time to get art supplies and stuff like that and she'll she would say in in a In an old bot presence, but oh, yeah, I went to Hobby Lobby and it was You went to Hobby Lobby

2:43:25 Because in Texas the Hobby Lobby who are fundamental Christians who own the company They are okay with providing con health care for insurance health care insurance for condoms and other contraceptives but not for the morning-after pill and This is a very huge conversation, of course because of their what they are suing The state I think or maybe the federal government, they said that we're okay to help supply, you know, to pay for insurance for family planning but not for destruction. That's the way they see it, based on religious beliefs. And so the question is can a corporation have a religious belief, etc., etc. And so of course, if when Mickey is like, oh yeah, got this Hobby Lobby, you're like, you went to Hobby Lobby? Those assholes!

2:44:22 And I argued with someone the other day, I said, because what is being said is they want to take away a woman's choice. I said, well, whatever you want, that's not the fact. They don't want to pay for the insurance for that. But they're not saying a woman can't choose to do whatever she wants. You just have to pay for it yourself. And I get, and this is, and you know, me of course, I'm playing the devil's advocate, but it is met with such horror when I say this. I said, just so you know, it's not health care, it's health insurance, and they have an issue with after the fact plan B. So I think there's something to that. And it's not removing a woman's choice, she can do whatever she wants in her spare time with her own money.

2:45:19 And you can't even broach the conversation. Not that I really care, but it's just interesting to see how people freak out they've been programmed to think that someone hates women. Hobby Lobby, whose entire audience consists of women, because dudes don't shop at Hobby Lobby, that they hate women. It's just like, wow, you're fucking programmed people. Wake up! Well, that's about as futile as anything you've ever said. Wake up people! Stop it already! Alright, on Thursday I will have 2014 predictions. I don't know if you have any, John, but I have a couple things. We've never done this on the show before. It's a new segment.

2:46:11 It's called 2014 predictions. Predictions. It's a new segment. It's a new segment. It's called 2014 predictions. Yes. And there'll be another new segment next year. Yes. Called 2015 predictions. Exactly. So I don't know if you're in, but I think it should be fun. So you're going to do 2014 predictions? That's going to chew up a lot of the show. No, I only have three. Oh, I see. Oh, it's for the year 2014. Yeah. And I only got three. Another tale of the Hollywood Whackers. Well, well, well. The autopsy report on Ronnie Chasen. Do you remember her from three years ago? The PR woman who was shot in the Beverly Hills. And at the time I believe we had, there was very little information available, we had dissected it and she was a big part of the Oscar promotions. Right. And this happened around the Oscar promotion time

2:47:10 And if you recall the story, the official story, what eventually came out is some guy on a bicycle wanted to rob her, shot her four times and killed her. And then when the cops came looking for him, he killed himself. Right. Yes. Very common occurrence. Yes. In Beverly Hills. A documentary filmmaker who is on the phone, I think, in this report, who should probably stay out of the country. sued the Beverly Hills Police Department. Beverly Hills Police Department notorious for covering up anything showbiz. And he's suing for all of the investigative materials. He sued for the true autopsy and wouldn't you know it, it's a little different than the guy in the bike story. According to the coroner's autopsy report published by The Hollywood Reporter, the publicist died from four gunshot wounds fired from what police initially described as a secondary vehicle.

2:48:09 The LA County Coroner's Office has withheld the report, citing a security hold for three years that was released following a lawsuit filed by documentary filmmaker Ryan Katzenbach, who's launched a fundraising campaign for his film about Chasen. He spoke to us from the road tonight. Nobody really seemed to buy this idea that this lone guy in Beverly Hills on a bicycle shot this woman, you know, four or five times. And so I started to realize we had a story. We had something that we should definitely pursue. Beverly Hills police have said an unemployed felon, Harold Martin Smith, acted alone and rode his bicycle to Beverly Hills where he shot and killed Chasen in her Mercedes on Whittier and Sunset in November 2010. Weeks later, Smith shot and killed himself at the Harvey apartments as police entered to question him. The case was closed. It remains unclear if that second vehicle is Smith's bike or another car mentioned originally. The shots were fired from an SUV into her car.

2:49:11 There you go takes a couple years three years later, yeah, well, we'll see if he gets more information I find this fascinating because you know that I think then we we called this we call the Russians, right? We call yeah, we called it a money thing. She owed money to Russians Right Russian mob for promotion because you know, where does the money the financing come for a lot of these films? Russian Russian mob yeah that guy that Yuri guy who's trying to turn Silicon Valley into Hollywood hmm well I don't know about him but the Russian mob has got their fingers in a lot of stuff that they don't like to see go astray yeah I got we got a business and then when you talk about s being shot from a SUV it sounds very mobby very very mobby yeah well I'm trying to keep my friends with the Russians

2:50:15 And we went to Russian house yesterday with Sir Gene, he took us to lunch. And we had borscht. Have you ever had the, what's it called? Stas, I think it's called. It's a Russian drink, it's a soft drink and it's essentially fermented barley before it becomes beer. I have had the Icelandic version of that. Is it Stas? Is that what it's called? I think it's called... Well in Iceland it's called something else. Let me see what it's called. I think it's called Staz. I may have... It's very sweet. It's nice and bubbly. This actually wasn't too sweet. It was kind of... It was very nice. We took a bottle home, an extra bottle. And we had the blinis with the red caviar. You didn't have any good caviar? Gene didn't get you any good caviar from the back room? Some beluga?

2:51:15 Uh, no, this is... Some acetra, something decent? You ate red caviar? No, it was on the menu. Which is from trout? Wait, the red caviar's not from the sturgeon? No. From trout? I believe so, yeah, trout or salmon, one of the Jews. Salmon, I think. I think it's salmon roe. Well, whatever the case is, it's not the stuff you want. Well, it was very good, and we had lots of beet salad stuff, and that was nice. And there was a really tall Russian chick running the joint. Makes sense, it being Russia house and all. Yes, it would. But it was, the cuisine of Russia is interesting. Is it? Well, yeah, it's kind of...

2:52:01 Everything is like yeah, but you know individually the bits and bobs are okay. It's nice like okay I can imagine if I'm you know if I'm under Stalinist rule and Snowed in is enjoying his food. Let's put it this way poor guy Jeans like what what no that was nice we had a cabbage can you eat oh? No, no, it was beets. Lots of beets. I took home some. I took a box home, which I never do. I took a box of beets home. Yeah, it was nice salad. You can't beat it. Can't beat the beets, that's for sure. All right. Working on NDAA 2014 for you, it's about 1,100 pages. I don't think we're going to have anything as nutty as the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, which included section

2:52:51 702 etc and the right to be black bag But I saw it has some space stuff in there and some cyber stuff that I'm looking at it's a lot of reading So be prepared for that along with new segment on the show 2014 predictions, and you have three of them. Yes, I do bring your own I might but I don't necessarily have to do it on the next show okay, I And thank you very much for supporting our value for value model. Go to Dvorak.org slash NA for more and coming to you from FEMA Region 6, some call it the district, Austin, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, plain and simple, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda. That's warm, hot, roof, baby. The best podcast in the universe. Dvorak.org slash NA.