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00:00 Oops. Oops. Sorry. What are you doing? Why are you jumping the gun at me? Happy trigger finger. I'm just happy to see ya. Uh huh. Alright. I'm ready. Hit it. Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, December 12th, 2013. Time for your Get Monation Media Assassination episode 573. This is no agenda. Another one bites the dust. So we're up early in FEMA Region 6 here in the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley FEMA Region 9 as it would be called in an emergency. I'm John C. Dvorak. We don't have some delay or anything do we? That was just you. It was what? Do we have some enormous delay or was that just you being slow on the draw?

00:50 Is there a... I don't know, it could be a delay. No, no, that sounds okay. We'll be alright. Well, here's what happened. Uh-oh. I'm on the laptop. Oh, which means the big machine borked? The big machine has this common message, which I have tried to correct, but it doesn't seem to want to deal with. I think my main hard disk went out. Oh. Reboot and select proper boot device. Or insert boot media in selected boot device and press the key. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's your boot sector. Or something like that. Yes. It's all going to be in our post-apocalyptic technology book, John. This will be one of the messages after the EMP strike. You get some boot sector thing and you got to know what to do. Yeah, well, put up the laptop. For those of you who don't, or those of you who are, of course, listening live to the show, we're an hour earlier than normal and this is because we have a nuptials taking place today in the Dvorak family.

01:48 Right. Buzzkill Jr. getting married, which came as quite a surprise. You only told me about this a week ago. I think I mentioned it a year ago, but... Oh no, you said he was engaged, but that doesn't mean there's no set time limit on engagement. Well, I always thought there was. Really? Yes, you get engaged. What do you just get engaged? Open engagement? You just stay engaged for the rest of your life? I don't know. I agree that you probably told me that he was engaged a year ago, but you didn't say like, oh, the wedding's in two months or I didn't get any of that. Just, hey, we've got to start early on Thursday. Why? JC's getting married. Have you done your rehearsal dinner and everything?

02:29 Yeah, we did that last night. And Dame Tonya was the actress in Richmond, who's one of our regular supporters, big fan of the show of course. She is a waitress at this restaurant. You're kidding me. Well as an actress, what else do you do when you're not working right? Wow! So the most important question, is she hot? Yeah, of course, she's an actress. That's great. So is she helping out tonight or this afternoon during the wedding? No, it's a family affair. I didn't even know she worked there, but it was funny because she introduces herself and I immediately recognize her because I've seen her picture. Right.

03:13 That's so she's all giddy about working the table I bet did she did she like cut was really good instead of tipping her I said consider this a donation to the no agenda show You cheap bastard It's a funny idea though Just to do it to people don't even know what the no agenda show is is that you can do it that way I just do it for everybody. Yeah, we were like chip went to God right and Anyway, she was really thrilled to meet the shill. Well, I'd be thrilled to meet the shill. I've never met Eric either. Yeah, well, you know, she was giddy. Anyway, she's great. She's home schooling her kids. Of course she is. Everybody's in town. This is good. Is everyone staying at the house? No, everyone's scattered around. You have them at the La Quinta Inn? Can't have them around the house. Stay at La Quinta.

04:10 There's no La Quinta in the neighborhood. Have you ever seen a La Quinta? Yeah, I've driven past them. I've never stayed at one. No, I've stayed at them. They're bad. Are they? Well, that's good to know. They all have the standard breakfast room. Now, if we were a normal show with advertisers, we could never say that. They have this standard breakfast room. And it's the same in every single La Quinta. So you have your typical like really bad cereal boxes and stuff, but they have a waffle iron that flips around. What? Yeah, I'm like on a rod. A swivel. A swivel, yeah. And they have a big, you know, a big plastic jar of goop. No, he's talking about this is the breakfast, not in the room. No, in the breakfast room. They have a common breakfast room. Oh, yeah, I've seen these. Oh, it's so disgusting. Yeah, it's a mess because people don't know how to make a waffle. Well, it's also, it's in that plastic squeezy bottle, which is just like...

05:05 Yeah, the goop. The batters. Yeah, it's in a big squeezy bottle which I'm sure comes from some, you know, Amco. Yeah, Cisco or one of those Amco companies. Anyway, the restaurant is Cosmo. If anybody's in Berkeley they should go there and eat and ask for their waitress to be Tonya. Right, Dame Tonya. She'll help him. I would you know Chad is has been staying with us for a couple days He's leaving today Chad from Colorado our executive producer there We stayed at his house on the Hot Pockets tour in Colorado right you recall and Chad is the news a fireman Medic and he's he's going for his lieutenants lieutenants. What do you call it lieutenant see?

05:53 He's got he's he's going up for lieutenant up for lieutenant, so I needed some qualifications and apparently FEMA region 6 had a had the course So he oh yeah, so he stayed here, and he's been doing the course, but we're we're having nice pancakes this morning Miss Mickey you know did the whole you know gave him gave him a real no agenda experience even though it's a Thursday What yeah even though it's a Thursday? I'm always thinking something else and going and and we're talking about you and your family and you know and about the wedding and everything a Subject a conversation in a curry house. Well, we figured what we really you know, you guys you are a reality show This is this is there's truly something without the without the low-budget crew around us no, yeah, but exactly but think about the possibilities and

06:45 Yeah, yeah, we thought about him. I just can't have a name like, you know, growing up Dvorak, you know, my life on the leash. I'm just trying to figure out a good name for the show. I know we could name it. It would be really, it would probably be quite successful. What's that? Living with the Kardashians. Titles can't be copyrighted. Hey, I have now official word. And you heard it here first, and anyone in Austin, Texas who is listening, I can now with certainty tell you that Robert Plant does not live in Austin. Oh, well that's good to know. Because I went to his house yesterday. And there was some fat guy there. Nope. He has not been in Austin for several months. He had a house here. He still owns it. He's trying to sell it.

07:38 We got the call. I guess someone's thinking Oh Robert plant MTV guy, you know, hey, you know you want to hey You want to take a look at Robert plants house? And of course Mickey's like yeah. Yeah, we're very interested in buying Wow, he lives in squalor It's a this is imagine a bunkhouse. Oh What a bunkhouse a bunkhouse you like a military bunk? Yes it very much like another's two houses and this I mean this has stuff hasn't been updated since 1920 it's nasty Nothing is modern. I was just like yeah, and it was definitely his I saw his meds were there and I saw it You know some some of this I'm poking my nose there. Well. He wasn't there there, but you know his some of his stuff is still there and

08:29 And it was just like, wow. It's always so disappointing. You see how the true celebrities live. I would not, you couldn't pay me to sleep in that house as it is today. Really? What did he do with all his money? I think he probably has a nice place in the UK, which is where he's been staying. He doesn't live here. Oh, okay. He probably just, this is just a crash pad. Literally. Yeah, I think so. I think so. But why would he have one in Austin? What's his appeal? I think his girlfriend is from Austin. Oh. Patty, maybe it's his wife. I don't know. Maybe he married her. Patty something, I can't remember her last name. She's a musician too, but not a famous one otherwise I would remember.

09:17 Patty. Actually, she probably is well known. Patty LaBelle. Yeah, that's right. Everybody, please welcome the Honorable Robert Plant and his wife, Patty LaBelle. That would be a combination I'd like to see. Anyway, so... But I was right. He barely lived here. It was his crash pad and I don't think he ever really seriously lived here. Well you could have bought it and said you lived in the place. Yeah, 1.2 million dollars, I don't think so. That sounds kind of high for a junker. Yeah, well it's got an acre and there are two buildings on it and there's permits and stuff but no way. No way. You have to save a lot of stuff up. Yeah.

10:01 There's so much happening, so much going on that I'm over clipped actually. We'll have to save some stuff for Sunday. I know it already. But the fun... Well, we can start off by discussing a little bit of the Mandela... Yeah, I agree. I think we have to because the news of course... Especially the guy... Yeah. The guy doing signing is still hilarious. It's the best story, right? Yeah. Are you on the DSL or are you on the cable? I'm on the cable. Yeah, I can tell. Because it's yeah, I have to complain about this some more because the Comcast cable is not as good as a slow DSL It's ridiculous, and they were helping me, and then I stopped complaining, and then I stopped helping right But it's it's also doing that kind of cutting out thing yeah, it cuts out Yeah, you can't you can't connect this to the DSL. Hey I could but you know Yeah, why bother?

10:54 Alright, I also have a feeling you can't really hear me very well. I can hear you. Okay, then you're just ignoring me. What did you say that I ignored? Well, I'll say something and you won't hear that I'm saying it. Oh, I'm trying to get a browser working on the little laptop so I can get... because I know you're going to drop the A in the morning, John, and I'm going to be... Okay, take your time with that. And that's why it's probably cutting out because I'm opening windows. Okay, all right. Well, you take your time there. Yeah, so the news this morning, for those who haven't heard it, of course, you're on the podcast, then by now you know that the guy signing at the Mandela ceremony

11:34 Signing for the deaf. Signing for the deaf, yeah. So he's insane. Yeah, he reminds me of the guy in the Woody Allen movie, one of the early ones, I think it was Bananas. where they come down the plane and the translator comes out and then the guy is just a complete lunatic and the guys in the white jackets come out and chase him around. You know, he's just a phony. But how did they not know this? Apparently the guy has, according to Jay Buzzkill Jr., who's followed the story a little better, he says the guy had been busted before. Yes, well not only that, so they've interviewed him now, AP got an interview with him, and he says, well you know I had a schizophrenic episode

12:15 Which apparently he has more often. The guy is a probably a pathological liar too apparently. Oh yeah, he takes medication and he says he suffered an attack during this event and he heard voices and started hallucinating, he saw angels. Now all of this may or may not be true but we as NOAgenda producers and listeners we know what this is. This is a message. So we can get you anytime we want. Yeah, it's a message that this is how close we can get. And that was very, very close. Yeah, he's standing right next to everybody. He could have assassinated anyone he wanted to. Yeah. But now that you look back and you look at his signing, it is pretty funny. Wow, he's just doing something. And he's doing the same thing over and over again, with his chest out and everything.

13:03 I doubt if he was schizophrenic and nuts. I think this is just all one big message. I don't see it any other way. Could be. I'm still trying. Now I'm trying. I finally got the email working. I'm trying to find the... Of course, this is a laptop with a small screen. So I have to... This is going to be a bitch when we do the... It's okay. It's okay. Well then I have some more details. The other thing that the other distraction from the Mandela event which by itself, Ms. Mickey and I were in the car so we were listening to the National Treasure. I mean we got bored just listening to it. Imagine having to sit there for all those hours. Yes well Obama was flirting with the with what's her name the Danish woman. Oh so I got a couple notes from our producers about the Danish prime minister and if you look at the picture

13:56 It's not Obama doing the selfie, she's doing the selfie. No, no, I think that's been well established. Right. She's got the camera, she's the one who's looking at it during the ceremony. But Obama puts his hand on it to make sure he's got more of him in the picture. It's worse! So the woman's name, I can't pronounce her last name, but they call her Gucci Hella. What is her full name? I have it here. Hella, Hella, Hella. Anyway, they call her Gucci Hela because apparently in Denmark they think she's just a moron. And so she's married to Stephen Kinnock, his name may ring a bell, son of Neil Kinnock, former Labour... Was he ever Prime Minister in the UK? I don't know if he's a Prime Minister, but certainly top guy. They raised their two daughters in Copenhagen. Her husband lives in Switzerland.

14:55 I guess I think he's a banker and he comes back time to time just to check up on everything. But there's this video of her driving through Copenhagen and Sarah Jessica Parker is handing out autographs, maybe at a movie premiere or maybe it was for Sex and the City. And she stops the car, she gets out and she walks home and says, hi I'm the Prime Minister. And Sarah Jessica Parker's like, yeah back off lady. She want an autograph, get in line. So instead of, you know, I don't know, maybe inviting her to the Prime Minister's residence, she's such a groupie. And that fits in with the whole Gucci thing that she goes over there like, hey, hey Sarah Jessica Parker, I love you and Sex and the City. But she's a groupie.

15:44 And that's where this whole selfie thing was coming from. Hey, Cameron, get in here. She's smoking hot. And of course... Well, anyway, so she was the one taking the selfie. Probably insisted on it. Obama grabbed the camera for obvious reasons. Right. Okay. Now, has this done anything to promote the movie at all? The biopic? You know, I was thinking about that because I saw the trailer finally so I could figure out what you were talking about. Right. I think so. I don't know if it's going to work, but it's obvious that they, you know, this is not a coo- I don't think it's a coincidence. We got a, like a mini review from the official NOAA gender group, NOAA, which I'll share with you now. It says, I finally saw the biopic in one word, instigatious.

16:38 Instagacious. Is that a word? Instagacious? It is now. Even if it's not a real word. Oh, okay. Even if it's not a real word. There you go. Yes, it showed some glimpses of Mandela placing bombs, but that's only because they had no other choice. Winnie's necktie or necklace, but hey, she was a radical bitch. And then again, it's Mandela's autobiography. She doesn't come out smelling like a rose, but it's mostly make-believe. Mandela was A&C's key person and the violence was necessary. What bothered me most, it feels like the movie wants to instigate race riots. I would be surprised. I think there's a lot of instigate race riot stuff going on for some reason. I'll finish this. In the screening room I was in, most of the viewers were Islamic kids who jeered when white people got beaten. Meanwhile, quote, the revolution won't be televised and fight the power is blaring loudly during these scenes.

17:31 It's worrying, I don't know what they want to achieve with this movie, but it's not the piece Mandela preached. Now that makes sense. That doesn't surprise me. Well, I was watching Middle East news in the process of getting clips and there was a report on what's going on in South Africa now and all the whites, because there's a lot of action going on, it's very similar to what happened in Mugabe's country, which is all the whites are freaking because they're all their employees now claim that they own the land and all the rest of it and they're taking their land back that Mandela promised and It appears as though this is going to slide into a classic African mess With the course the Zuma was up and gave a speech. He was booed soundly booed Yeah, because it's extremely corrupt and apparently so is everybody else and this is this so the Mandela moment the

18:30 there were some claims that Mandela actually was the only one that kept the thing from falling into chaos when they switched over to the ANC rule. But now with him gone and nobody to shake their finger, this is not going to go well. Which again, which just again is like, well, Nelson Mandela quote unquote changed the world. Apparently not. But we'll see. We'll see. these guys just could be paranoid, although it doesn't seem like it. Meanwhile, there's a lot of fun stuff that was coming out of South Africa. Because yeah, I think again that certainly in America we have a limited idea. And if you listen to, even if you just listen to NPR, it pretty much is all Ooga Booga music. All you can do is have a visual of just natives jumping around. Whereas of course they opened up this massive, well the toll, the road was already open, but they flipped on the toll switch.

19:30 in South Africa on the day that Mandela died and and everyone's apparently the system is it's a license plate reader right and the system is not all that secure and They tracked the beast which is Obama's limo license plate eight zero zero zero zero two the the first hour alone he had an outstanding payment of 54 Rand and It's really cool to see you can go and you can you can track and see how if where he drove how much he owes for his tolls So they got it yeah, they got some stuff going on I like this South Africa's got some cool. You know we should pay attention to them more often. Yeah, we'll see idea

20:17 In the Gitmo Nation East. Alright, I've got a few clips to see. So you're not hearing me because I'll start saying something and then you'll just talk. Oh we may have a horrible, thanks to Comcast, a horrible lag but I'm hearing everything you say. Well I was going to say before you move on, a guy got arrested in Gitmo Nation East for tweeting hate speech about Mandela What? Yeah, this is the new thing. What hate speech did he tweet and what... I'm going to tell you. And who is it hurting? Mandela's dead. But you're not allowed to do... hate speech is no longer allowed in the United Kingdom. Even if it's a dead person. So you can't say bad things about Hitler. Is that right? Is that what you're telling me?

21:09 Why are you attacking me for the for the laws of the UK? No, you should not. I'm asking a question. Yeah, you should not be allowed to. I agree. Did Hitler ever win a Peace Prize? Well, here's a funny clip that I was sent. Let me read you this. This is actually quite amusing. This is from 1939. Headline, New York Times. Hitler is greatest in Princeton poll. freshman in the, apparently this is the second year in a row that the freshman of Princeton named Hitler the greatest living person in the annual poll conducted at the Daily Princetonian. Hitler came in first, Einstein came in second, and Neville Chamberlain came in third. Wow, that's funny. Hitler was also man of the year in Time Magazine. Twice? Yeah.

22:09 Right up there with the Pope. They were pushing Hitler big time in the 30s, but the fact that this really, because the college students are always supposed to be the most savvy and all, they're all, you know, they're this and they're that and they're idealists. So their idealism led to, at Princeton, led them to pick Hitler as the greatest. As the greatest man ever. Yeah, he's living person somehow that that part of history has been obfuscated I guess I guess we're not supposed to uncover it no unfortunately the databases are getting loaded up with more and more stuff So here's the here's the joke the guy cracked and for this joke that he posted on Twitter He was arrested held for eight hours. They confiscated his computer and took DNA samples

23:02 Here it is. My PC takes so long to shut down, I've decided to call it Nelson Mandela. What? Yeah. How was that hate speech? It's a funny joke. Yeah. They show up and then that's what you get arrested for. This is bullcrap. This is not a true story. Somebody made this up. This is a hoax. Let me see what it's in. This is the Daily Mail. Probably. Let me see what the... Yeah, you're right. Daily Mail. Yeah, it could be. We'll check it out. Well if anything at least it highlights the idiocy of the UK. I mean there is there is some crazy stuff going on with the hate speech. And I think he okay looks like a local counselor was already pissed so it was misused I guess. Like this guy may have been a like a loudmouth troublemaker anyway. That's what you do with troublemakers. They step over that line and you go and check them out. Yeah you find some phony law and throw the book at him. That's the problem with too many laws and that's why I'm always wondering why the

24:04 public was concerned that we have a do-nothing Congress. I worked for the government. I'm telling you, do-nothing Congress is the way to go. Otherwise you end up with laws like that stupid hate speech law. Yeah. All right. So here's the further bad news for you. Oh, I don't have a spreadsheet program on this particular laptop. Okay, this means means I have to double duty I have to I have for the first time you're gonna have to double duty and I wonder Now we can see how your name reading goes well, but hold on when it says JCD has note Will you have these or was that another note? Yeah, the note is a handwritten note. Okay? Well before we get into that

24:52 I've had a back and forth with our Gay Crusader producer Brian. Now did you see his white paper that he sent? I forwarded you a copy. I had missed that in the hustle and bustle of my day-to-day life. I missed the white paper. Okay, so it's not done and it kind of sent it in for review and I sent back my comments. You didn't respond so I'm like, I don't know. I didn't even copy you on the reply. I'm like, whatever. Well, you can tell me now. Well, he's what he needs is he need it so it's very detailed But it's also he's written in a little and by the way for those you don't know what this is about This is about the Bogota reporting on the Russian anti-gay law if you're gay you get arrested all of this is not true and We looked at the laws we do we got translations and then he picked this up and he was astounded that

25:41 that and he's gay, that everyone in the gay community is you know not on as you know as refuses to order Stolichnaya vodka you know and they're all propagating this bullcrap. So he actually traced it back to where it first came in the mainstream media. He went off a little bit on a tangent about how America is actually much less gay friendly than Russia Which I thought was a problem in his white paper. And I said, you know, man, you got to have the executive summary that the morons at the news can read and republish. You got to give him the line. And what's the conclusion? Is the conclusion that the Russian law is really only there to soak the American entertainment industry at $30,000 per violation? So anyway, so he's working on that.

26:29 But as this is all taking place, we had something very interesting happen. For those of you who don't know, India, the Supreme Court in India said, hey, you know, gays are bad news. You must have seen the Indian Supreme Court decision. This, by the way, is the State Department with Jen Psaki. criminalizing homosexuality. I just want to say the Supreme Court of India, and I have not read the law so I'm just going to think that this is there's probably something to this, has now criminalized homosexuality. India. Which has sent you know shockwaves in the global LGBT community and it's more important because only yesterday Secretary Kerry issued a statement on Human Rights Day and in which he mentioned LGBT. So

27:18 So what is the reaction that, and especially because the Indian foreign secretary is in town. Well, we of course are aware of the Supreme Court decision. The United States places great importance on the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms of all people. And as you saw, and as you referenced in the secretary's statement yesterday, that includes lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender persons around the world. Hello, how about heteroflexibles? We oppose any action that criminalizes consensual same-sex conduct between adults, LGBT rights or human rights. That's something you've heard Secretary Kerry say, I believe Secretary Clinton say before him. So she's struggling a little bit and of course who's up there in front? Our buddy Matt. Now unfortunately

28:03 Matt doesn't pull the Russia card, but he comes close. And we call on all governments to advance equality for LGBT individuals around the world. I know you asked me about the visit of the foreign secretary. I'm happy to give a readout of that if that's helpful as well. The only problem with that is that you're threatening sanctions on Ukraine or saying that there are possibility because they're violating people's human rights and not listening to the people. And yet here with India, It's not even clear whether this has come up, will come up, or will ever come up with the Indian Government. And in fact, the meeting – the readout that you gave of the meetings yesterday, it seems like everything with India is full speed ahead and we're intensifying our relationship. Well, this case – this case, as I understand it, the Supreme Court case was this today. Right, okay. That's fair enough. Those meetings were yesterday. I think I expressed pretty clearly our opposition to this. We didn't have time. In terms of what steps would be taken by a government.

28:57 on a Supreme Court case. That's not something I would have a comment on. Yeah, blahdy blahdy blahdy blah. I'm a little disappointed that Matt didn't just say, oh how about the Russian games? How about the, you know, this, so they've, the Russians, everyone even, even the lie is gay propaganda. That's not even the truth, but at least it's about propaganda. The Supreme Court of India has outlawed gay sex. It's illegal. Well, how come people aren't up in arms about that? Exactly. Think we should ban all curry. Well that would mean you wait a minute Yeah, so whenever so whenever someone says We should ban the Olympic Games and Russians crazy hate the gays. Yeah, how about India cheap bastards? Yeah, you have it and then on on Ukraine

29:52 Which, yes, it is Ukraine, not the Ukraine, which I tend to say incorrectly. Victoria Nuland was in Ukraine handing out sandwiches to the protesters. What was that all about? Because this is clearly a US instigated operation. Why else is Victoria Nuland, and now an assistant Secretary of State, On the ground with the protesters handing out sandwiches? Are you kidding me? How obvious do you have to make it? Oh, pay no attention to me! What are they thinking? Well, so I tried to fit this into our model, obviously. And... Wow. And by the way, we should mention that all hell is breaking loose there. Yes. Well, we have a note from our Ukrainian producer. And she said... well, actually, I should probably read that because... where is it here?

30:50 There's a lot to that. This is Mila Bogushdand, producer of episode 572. I arrived from Kiev December 3rd. I saw how the excitement started in Ukraine and continued to monitor the situation. Since around these events in Ukraine there are now many disputes and false information, I decided to write you a letter from the viewpoint of Ukrainian person who has family and business in Kiev. Thank you, that makes sense. She gives us a little legend. Government equals the president of Ukraine. The Eagles is similar to an American SWAT team. And the opposition is all parties opposing the president.

31:29 And here's her rundown. November 21st, the cabinet of ministers of Ukraine stopped the process of preparing for European integration. Spontaneous street protests arose in defense of European integration. An initiative in social networks played a more significant role in organizing demonstrations than the opposition did. The protests called Euromaidan, which is from the Ukrainian word maiden, which means the area for gathering of people. I guess that's the protest. So in Kiev, a lot of buses arrived with hired provocateurs who created an alternative campus on the other side of the Independence Square in downtown Kiev. So the two kinds of protestors were one, the students, and then the other one, the provocateurs who were drinking, singing songs, disturbing the public. This is how it's done, you see. The manifestation gradually waned, people started to leave, but suddenly on the night of the 30th,

32:21 The student camps, when people started to leave, the Eagles, the SWAT team, the special police troops appeared, and they started to abuse the students even though they weren't doing anything. So I think what's happening, John, is we have, the U.S. clearly wants Ukraine to integrate with Europe and not lean back towards Russia. And if I try to fit it into our model, besides the obvious gas, Couple of interesting things popped up as I start to look at the rail. Okay, okay It looks like the trans-eurasian Rail platform is planned. This is the Chinese Russian cooperative version is planned to run through Ukraine and the Ukraine just recently received on December 5th an eight billion dollar investment from China and

33:22 So the thing is a clusterfuck. Wow. You've got the Chiners trying to... I don't exactly know what the investment was for. It doesn't say in this Reuters article. Well, no, I'm sorry. It's for trade issues such as customs clearance, Ukrainian chocolate, that's a red herring, meat, dairy products, and railways. So if we slip it into our model, the Trans-Eurasian Railway, I guess the Chinese said, look, we'll put the money in for the actual track. You guys make sure they don't join the EU. And our response is to send Victoria Newland with a sandwich. Yeah, we're great. I think that was a mistake. What, the sandwich?

34:13 Victoria Nuland, she shouldn't have been anywhere near the place. Yeah, of course not. Let's just give it away. I mean, how dumb. Well, of course, I don't think anyone's picked up on this because they don't use this model that we have for analysis. What's the point? Yeah. I know. And then we have, I mean it all fits in. You know, I've never been to the Ukraine. I want to go. Can I go? I can give sandwiches away. It'll look like I'm very being generous. The State Department will look good. Now check this out. Russia and North Korea opened a cross-border freight railway, as it says here from Reuters, intended to speed cargo shipments between Asia and Europe. And it's, this is the 33 mile line. This doesn't get any crazier than that.

35:00 or transport to markets right through North Korea. So it starts to all come into play. And as much as we've looked at pipelines and stuff, this railway thing is getting real. Yeah, yeah, I like it. It's a good transition because the pipeline thing, I think we've worn it out. Yeah, we played it out. In the show notes, one of our producers was at the demilitarized zone between, I guess in 2007, mind you, when he was with the military. So this is, you know, the very northern part of South Korea, the southern part of North Korea, obviously.

35:46 He took a picture of let me see if I have it here He took a picture of and you know one of those in the train station one of those big signs You know like like the of the rail network, and I put this in the show notes And it's called the trans Eurasian railway network, and when you see this thing I mean, it's it's unbelievable it goes all the way to Barcelona hmm As a part of co-rail. You have the southern, so there's two routes. You've got the southern one, which is just marked as the TCR, and that goes through China and then eventually goes into Kazakhstan, then goes up north, and that's where it connects with the Russian rail. The Russians are taking over once it hits Turkey.

36:33 But then the Russians have their own railway, and it all connects there in Turkey. It's going to be fascinating to watch. But then to see this thing go through Poland, through, see, it goes through Denmark, and then it goes down through France. Of course, the French rail is already in place, the tracks, the high speed. And then boom, it goes down to the east coast of Spain. I mean, it's just immense. So it's obvious that the Ukrainian part is very important. And I don't I don't think Kerry has it in him. He may he may talk a big game and he may he may like what he's doing. He doesn't have that. What Hillary is a dummy. Yeah, he doesn't have that. What Hillary has, you know, we just frighten. No, she's she's yeah, she's she's the perfect person to run our empire. No, she's uniquely qualified to run uniquely. She's uniquely qualified to run our empire. Exactly. Trying to get hit the hang of that one. Yeah, no, you know, work. So that's in the Trans Eurasian Network.

37:36 folder in the show notes for 372.nashownotes.com and of course I'd be very happy to thank you for your courage John C. Dvorak and say in the morning. And in the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all the ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. Yes, including our executive producers and associate executive producers Adam First let me thank all of our artists for helping us out We had a nice helping a nice slathering of art and no agenda art generator calm and thank you to sir effigy For giving us a great piece It was it was the the it was a little China lady running in front of the train as the death and the drones are behind the Chinese Train it was a nice piece. Yeah, it was it was very amusing. Yeah

38:22 So we highly appreciate that and oh by the way it is sad to learn I guess the new podcast app the Apple podcast app doesn't even show the artwork. So you have to download it and play it. It's terrible. Yeah, it's what I mean what a waste. We always put it in the show notes of course in multiple places but it's sad because it's so cool when you're playing the show to look at the new artwork. Anyway that's a goner. Yes, well we have a couple of executive producers and associate executive producers starting off with $400. Paul Crout, I do not have a note for Paul. Do you have anything? Paul is from New York. It's not going to be possible if I don't have my gear to find the note sent to me. Okay. So we'll just have Paul, if you have a note, send it again. We'll read it on Sunday. I can take a real quick look, just see.

39:19 Hold on a second. I don't recall anything from Paul. Now remember if you send it to everybody then someone will have it eventually. Let me see Kraut. I might get lucky. Let me see. Send a lot of stuff to... It's chillin'. I have it. Gentlemen. Okay, never mind. We originally planned on producing the Sunday after Thanksgiving, but unfortunately things got away from us so we decided December for sure. However, when we heard Adam do the, he's a constitutional lawyer on Sunday's show, we knew it was time to drop everything and donate. Ah yes. On a side note, my brother had his driver's license renewed in Colorado and they asked him for his fingerprints. What the fuck kind of bullshit police state traffic is that? Tactic is that? I guess. What? Yeah. He says, I guess anyone who drives a car in Colorado is now a criminal. I don't think we had to do that in Texas. I don't know of any state that does that. Well, Colorado.

40:17 Anyway, the Colorado is a somewhat of a fascistic operation. I hate Colorado. It's radioactive Which is bothersome? Yes annoying the whole state if you live in Colorado you're gonna you're gonna get radioactive radiation poisoning at some point It's a horrible place But now this and then they you know when they built that Denver Airport that what to me was the scam yeah, well we know about that and And here's the great thing about the Denver Airport, one of the scammiest parts of it, besides the fact it's the worst place to put an airport, it's got all kinds of crosswinds, it's a mess. They have a, you have to pay for parking to get to the, to park to drop somebody off. There's like a toll, but it's free if you can get in and get out with something like 15 minutes. They move the gate to buy the ticket to park

41:14 out somewhere near the border of the Denver City. You buy your ticket to park, you drive for 10 miles to get to the airport to park, and then come back. You can't make it within the 15 minutes or you still have to pay. Yeah. It's a scam. And then there's that whole looking like a swastika thing and all the crazy art. And the underground base and all that stuff. That's just minor. They're taking fingerprints. Anyway, the Brothers Kraut appreciates everything you do. Let's keep hitting people in the mouth and educating slaves everywhere. We are $8 short of a knighthood, so next time it's going to be one. Cheers! The Brothers Kraut, 89th and Bluegrass. And we highly appreciate that. They're our own little Koch brothers. We just call them the Krauts.

42:04 Very happy with that so thank you so much for your executive producership then we have James Where are those cheap bastard coke brothers for our show by the way? James pyres from Escondido California John Adam, thank you for your courage, please accept my donation of three hundred and thirty three thirty three plus o dot o one to complete my knighthood and won't gladly drop that penny in there and I would like to be knighted as Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel, Escondido. Is that, is it the Hidden Jewel? I don't know. Escondido? I saw that note myself and I don't really know that Escondido means the Hidden Jewel but... There we go. I would have completed my knighthood earlier but I have a beef with Adam's ongoing Santa-clausification of John.

42:56 Yeah, I have a beef with that too. What are you talking about? Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, play dumb. Like he's an old friendly man with a sack full of presents? I've never accused you of that. Though John does sort of have pointy ears and is often a bearing a bag of electronic gifts, this sort of thing is clearly not called for. Otherwise, I will continue to propagate the formula and continue to provide value for value in the holiday spiritification. Clearly you have created the best podcast in the universification. Please dole out some karma to EJ, Ed, and Sinclair.

43:36 And though you unceremoniously annulled the make it rain jingle I am kindly requesting one last time for Chris He's a dude and mostly because John is so hilarious and spot-on Both of you keep doing what you do make the insane sane kindness regards Merry Christmas Happy New Year to both of you and your families sir wire of the hidden jewel and we will most definitely Was I gonna do Chris the dude. Are you gonna do the make it rain? I'm going to here's the here's the new policy Yeah, the new policy is on Sunday. I will do them all and consolidated on Sunday I'll do Chris the dude and put him on stage and I'll have the whole thing written set up so so whatever comes in today for this get this this gimmick

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45:13 $250. Thank you for all you do. I just wish I could give more and for those who don't give you're a PUD knocker Yeah, thanks. Baron Sir Dr. Sharky to a slew of twos from Jackson, Tennessee. Sid and Nancy, I'm honored you have chosen my birthday, 12-12, to do one of what surely will go down in history as the best podcast in the universe. I only wish I could do a selfie at Mandela's funeral to commemorate the occasion more solemnly like our illustrious president. Please send me some birthday shut up slave mac and cheese Adam's Choice karma. Also some general karma to my brother and sister who both yet separately in the process of gestating future human resources know they aren't married. They are married to different people, not to each other. Since my donation amounts to double make it rain, I'd like you to call to the stage either of the following pairs of girls, either Mimi and Miss Mickey or Hillary Clinton and Angela Merkel. I think Hillary and Angela would be better. We can do a funnier bit. Putting it on the list for Sunday. Yeah.

46:15 Yeah, whichever combo you think will make my birthday sexier. Yeah, your birthday is gonna be great. With Hillary and Angela! I think they can do a lesbian thing together. Don't you think they can do a girl on girl show? Under the lesbian stage. It's the girl on girl. The girl on girl act! Alright, let me just... That's bad. Let me you wanted some what do you want? He wants it karma and little girl shut up slave. Okay, we can do that You've got karma You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese, cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. That's for Baron Sir Dr. Sharkey. We'll have him on the list of as well, of course, for the birthday. Kyle Kinzel from Green Bay, Wisconsin, 20202. JCD has note. And this would be a written note, I presume.

47:15 You know this is hilarious because I put the note I brought I went over to the thing where you're to err it is I got I don't have to do much you know it's not like it's like oh no I got paper everywhere and I have to this is a new no next week Kyle's in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Growing up Dvorak John telling you Kardashians John and Adam and this is handwritten a handwritten it's kind of half script and half whatever this donation should put me over the limit Not the limit, it's over the top. For knighthood, accounting, so and so. Could I please get a one-time offering of cannabis and cabernet for being seated at the round table? Yeah. Put that on the list and throw it in. Cannabis and cabernet. Yeah, a train's good, plane's bad karma would be great for all the flying I'll be doing. Okay. Keep up the fantastic work.

48:11 That's it. All aboard, trains good, planes bad. You've got karma. There you go. He does mention that he's been loving the recent shows the most. Oh, thank you, that's nice. Well, we're working hard. So he got one guy, wrote us in, he wrote in a note, he says, I don't see why it was 571 was so hot. It seemed disorganized. Hey, wait a minute, I know that guy. It sucks. Are you still there Wow did I lose you no? You got real soft all of a sudden. Oh, that's probably let me change this guy Skype said again my six I was yelling yeah, I hate it when you go flaccid Yeah, yeah, so does Mickey hey. Oh, hey. Oh, I have the box checked okay, unchecked No, it's not checked so I can yell okay good. Hey. Oh hey. Oh all right

49:18 Well, and if 570 had anything else or was that it just five was now that 71 sucked. Okay. Well it happens. Uh, let's see michael hager from st louis missouri best podcasting universe and yet it's so much more he says And finally, Sir Sean Connelly, Naperville, Illinois. I'd like to thank you both for your courage. If I can get a Hillary Weekame, he died, don't ruff combo, it would be appreciated, says Sir Sean. And of course the problem when I'm reading the notes is that I can't be searching for stuff at the same time, and John's not very helpful.

50:04 Here we go. I can't search for it. So I mean that is the land of unconfirmed videos. We came, we saw, he died. Yeah that's the attitude she's gonna have as president. Yeah that's exactly, yeah that's the attitude. And that's it for our executive producers, associate executive producers. These are actual credits we of course really appreciate. The familiar names but also the newer names coming in and Paul Paul that we had we got Paul right the crowd brothers We got all that we got everyone's note. We've done everything. We'll have a thank-you segment for the Everyone $50 and over including the make it rains which will be duly noted for a big club session on Sunday and of course you were all invited from the PR files I just wanted to highlight the no agenda player one more time That's a project that started a few weeks ago, and it's still ongoing. It's it's really

50:57 Really good no agenda player calm where So for instance it has 572, but I'm gonna go to 571 and let's just see We'll talk about what it has all the topics here I'm gonna give you the topics and you tell me when to stop. Martin Bashir forced to quit MSNBC, Duncan Hunter on C-SPAN, Dinner with the Obots, Better Than Cash, Dutch Tulip Mania, Bad News for Bitcoin, Sandy Hook 911 call, 6 Week Cycle, Say Stop Whenever You Want, Dianne Feinstein, Mike Rogers, I'm listening to this list of fantastic topics and wondering what that guy was complaining about. Monetization of Edward Snowden and... Diane Feinstein. Diane Feinstein. I click on the link for Diane Feinstein. It goes straight into the show, into the player and... Fabulous! Wait a minute, it's at the right spot. It's not playing. Or maybe I'm not hearing it. Wow. It worked so well earlier. Oh, press the space bar. Okay. Space bar?

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52:55 We hit people in the mouth. Don't laugh! Shut up! Shut up, snake! Ah, yes! He spoke gracefully. He's about to govern the nation. You can't govern a nation now if you're going to engage in terror and going to engage in pollution. He was on the step now about to govern. I was there sitting and was just such a joy to hear and to watch people respond because many whites were relieved of their fears. Many blacks had a sense of celebration but all that reason to feel that they were winners. He's talking about Mandela? I don't know. It's hard.

53:53 I heard blacks and whites in the celebration. How long has this man been in this country that he hasn't learned English? He's American. What? What do you mean how long? Jesse Jackson's an American. He hasn't learned how long he's been in this country. I thought he was from some foreign country or maybe the planet Neptune. I've never understood a word he said. This is what I'm always telling Mickey. She gets frustrated about her English. Your English is better than 99% of Americans who speak it. You just played the Jesse Jackson clip. Yeah. It's it's unbelievable. Hey, you're an aviation. Yes I want you to kind of explain this situation to me since we're just big I'm just doing a couple light clips right here I want you to play the man locked in the plane and tell me what tell me what you think, okay?

54:39 A commuter airline can't explain how a man got left on an empty, locked-up plane during a layover in Houston. Here he is, Tom Wagner says he took a nap on an express jet flight from Louisiana to California and woke up all alone in the plane's dark cabin Friday night. He says at first he thought he was dreaming. He was sitting toward the back of the plane in a window seat. I called my girlfriend and she thought I was crazy. I said, Debbie, I'm locked on a plane. She said, Tommy, stop. I said, I'm telling you, too, you better call somebody. Get me off this plane. Well, his girlfriend called the airline and workers opened up the plane about a half hour later. Express jet officials say flight attendants had done a walkthrough. They gave Wagner a $250 voucher along with a motel room and an apology. And they say they're investigating how this happened. He's lucky it wasn't much longer than half an hour. All right. Whoa, what kind of tag was that? I don't know. Hey, thanks for that non sequitur, you dit. This can happen.

55:38 But that has nothing to do with aviation. I think it goes like this, having worked for a living. Yeah. Hey, what about this guy that's sleeping in the back? You want to wake him up? Fuck him. Uh-oh, let's lock him in the plane. See what happens. This will be great. I think it's worse. What happens if we... Don't worry about it. Nothing bad's going to happen. And so they locked him in the plane. The guy's probably snoring. They don't really check. It all depends what airline, but there's a lot of non-checking. People are tired. You fly four or five legs on these airplanes, you finally get back to base, like, goodnight everybody! Because you don't have to check it because you don't have a new crew or new passengers coming on. Screw it, if anything's there, the cleaning crew will get it. I think sometimes they do a walkthrough to see if anyone left anything of any value.

56:25 Yeah, so they could take it. Of course, of course. Aviation is, it's a hard, hard business. We should have a lot more appreciation for the men and women in aviation around the world, but in the United States in general. It keeps our country moving. And it's a shit job. You get shit money. and everyone's annoying, pretty much everyone's annoying. Oh the public, yeah. And you've got to stand there and do that stupid seatbelt thing because of regulations. One time I was sitting next to some guy

57:01 who was a first-time flyer, some kid, he was like 17 or something. And he was so excited, he says, he just actually volunteered the information, he was a first-time flyer. So he spent the entire flight buzzing the stewardess. The call button. Yeah, the call button. They finally told him to stop. Did they come over and said, hello, 1980 wants your air service back? This is not happening. I remember when I was flying first thought we could smoke in the back of the plane those days and I have to say now that I think about it if that's ludicrous that we did that need this little shitty ashtrays on your armrest

57:44 And and and here's what always would happen like okay, you know we can smoke in the back of the plane and then you'd and be oh time to take off you you want to put your cigarette out and someone to put gum in there and it would end this and the gum would start burning and we get all gooey from the smoke and Bad news bad news. Yeah, you could press your your attendant call button I think flight attendant call button and And then they would show up and you say, oh, can I have some water, please? Sure, darling. I'll be right up. No more. Now you speak. Now you push that button more than twice and they're going to they're going to take some tape and glue you to the seat. I think we need to discuss the snow job a little bit. I see you have a clip as well. And I think yours may be more interesting. Tech firms now bitch about snooping. I pretty much had the same clip.

58:39 I guess. This is about the letter. It's a pretty short clip, it's just a summary. Let me hear. Eight of the world's leading technology firms including Google, Apple and Twitter have formed an alliance calling for changes to US government surveillance. In a letter to Washington, the companies argue that current surveillance practice undermines the freedom of the people. It follows recent leaks about the extent of government snooping. Yeah, let me play my clip. And some of America's top tech companies, they are now urging the US government to curtail its spying program. Which, by the way, is not true. If you've read the letter, they're not urging to curtail the spy program. They're saying, in fact, this guy's going to read a piece of the letter, which is key. This is a rare move that tech executives have sent a letter to President Trump. And who decided it's tech? This is getting on my nerves. This word tech.

59:28 You know what I mean, John? Does that bother you at all? It doesn't bother me, but there was a big stink recently, and I think it showed up in Gawker too, where somebody said, I don't like being called tech, we should be called nerds or geeks or makers. Or coders. Makers. No, it's just the ubiquitous... That's what he said, he said makers. It's the ubiquitous... I don't know, it doesn't work for me anymore. It doesn't bother me. Obama and Congress saying there's an urgent need to curtail the spying which the companies say is actually hurting their bottom line. Yeah, a lot of people say those companies collect a lot of information on you but they say the government's doing worse. The National Security Agency's massive snooping program of course came to light when documents leaked by that man there, the former NSA contractor Edward Snowden revealed the interactions

1:00:20 between tech companies and the NSA. And let's just take this back for a second because nothing was really revealed. Snowden certainly didn't reveal anything. Glenn Greenwald published a couple slides from a deck with no real verification and we still are trying to figure out what a lot of it means like GFE, does that really mean government furnished equipment or not? Because that's what this is about specifically. But we don't really know that. Okay. The NSA can poke in the back door. Oh, poke in the back door? Well, Michael, that's what's worrying executives of some of the biggest tech companies in the United States. Facebook, Apple, Twitter, Google and Microsoft. They're all asking the government to help pull back some of the NSA surveillance programs. The challenge for these companies is that they are required by law to help the NSA do surveillance. Now, what Edward Snowden has exposed over the last few months is several programs that allow the NSA to... Again, I just have to say, Edward Snowden has not exposed everything. I think it's important

1:01:22 to continue to remind people how this works and as we go through this segment we'll get back to that but Edward Snowden did not reveal to the world It was newspapers. Access vast amounts of private information. The NSA says it is to prevent terrorism, but often that data is being collected on people who don't have any connection to terrorism. And that's the reason why you see these companies asking the government to change the law so that companies can in fact protect their customers' privacy. Now, here's what they had to say in their letter that they sent out today. The balance in many countries has tipped too far in favor of the state.

1:01:58 and away from the rights of the individual. Rights that are enshrined in our Constitution. This undermines the freedoms we all cherish. It's time for change. Now, there's something, there's a little, little gotcha in this letter, which I will read again. Dear Mr. President, members of Congress, this is from reformgovernmentsurveillance.com. Now, if you can actually spell reformgovernmentsurveillance.com, then you win a prize. Who came up with this for these guys? What? Reformgovernmentsurveillance.com? Yeah. This is their genius. That's the best they could do? Yes. That's the Global Government Surveillance Reform Coalition, which includes America Online, Apple, Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, Microsoft, Twitter, and Yahoo, also known as

1:02:54 And here's the letter. Here's your word again. We understand that governments, plural, have a duty to protect their citizens. But this summer's revelations highlighted the urgent need to reform government surveillance practices worldwide. The balance in many countries has tipped too far in favor of the state and away from the rights of the individual. You mean like every place? I think these guys are talking about, they're not even talking about America. They're worried about China and places where they can go make money. If you think these companies give a rat's ass about you, they're, in fact, here it is, for our part, we are focused on keeping users' data secure. I've always had taken issue with being called a user. I've never liked that. I'm a customer. I'm a paying customer of many of these companies. I don't like being called a user.

1:03:49 Again, maybe that's just me and maybe I'm just being overly sensitive So they're pretending that they I can see where you think it's demeaning. It is demeaning. I'm not a user. Oh It's the user curry. Yeah, I mean, I'm it's like I'm not paying for it some way I am I pay Apple actually pay Microsoft. I don't pay Twitter Maybe I don't screw. I don't use the half of these services. I But so there's a lot of things that happened simultaneously while the the kings of Silicon Valley make their plea, which is really for their own pocketbook. I think they're just a little freaked out that, oh, don't let these people figure out that they don't really need us. Oh my gosh, the only company in this whole line that we need is maybe Apple for some hardware. We don't need Microsoft. We don't need AOL or Facebook or Google.

1:04:49 Google search is still kind of handy, but we'll get past that eventually. We don't need Yahoo. We don't really need all these companies. You don't need it. So the big revelation as a part that this went hand in hand is reported as if the NSA is on your Xbox Live playing with you as we speak. Did you notice how this reporting was skewed, John? With the headlines? Yeah. And I went to go see the two pages that were published by the New York Post And this is complete and utter crap. This is... if these guys had written this and they worked for the Curry Dvorak Consulting Company, we would have fired them. All it is is a pitch to go and try and infiltrate some gaming networks. They're not even saying they're doing it in these two documents that were published. Did you see the two pages that were published? Did you read through it? No, I didn't. Ah.

1:05:52 It's so bad. And this is top secret, comm int, US, this is for the five eyes, USA, Australia, Canada, Great Britain, New Zealand. Topic, exploiting terrorist use of games and virtual environments. And then it says we know that terrorists use many feature-rich internet communications for operational purposes. And it goes in this whole, so essentially what they're saying is, hey, you know, maybe these guys use the VoIP Maybe terrorists use the VoIP features of online games to communicate with each other. And then they come up with the genius idea to go hunt around on Xbox Live, Second Life. Like, yeah. What is the NSA sitting on a big sex ball with a huge penis and wings? I mean, please.

1:06:39 World of Warcraft. I think it's these guys are just I think there's if I was what what would you be doing? There's nothing going on terrorism wise in the u.s. It's just bullcrap and everybody knows it's it's just bullcrap It's just to keep the public a look at you know kind of Intimidated so you're one of the I know I have an idea boss I think, I'll bet you that the terrorists could be, well I don't think they'd be using Second Life, do you Bill? Well it's a possibility, well you can't better to be safe than sorry. Okay Jim, you go in there and create an account and roam around, this will be your job for the next year. Hey, and you gotta blend in with everybody. Here, dress up like a chick.

1:07:21 So I mean this is just a way you've got nothing better to do than kill time so they now they're playing World of Warcraft But the funny thing is the the actual online game that we know The intelligence services use themselves is Eve and that's not on the list. It's not even mentioned in these two pages remember remember the The guy who got killed in Benghazi he was playing Eve Yeah, the spooks are on it all the time themselves, but here's what galled me as a part of this fabulous analysis Which doesn't say they're doing it, but says oh, you know we should really your all avenues should be taken to develop PES and CNA exploits as GV ease are found on target computers, but this is not they're not doing it as the headlines scream They this is a recommendation

1:08:10 As a part of this recommendation, these games offer realistic weapons training. What weapon to use against what target, what ranges can be achieved, even aiming and firing. Military operations and tactics, photorealistic land navigation and terrain familiarization and leadership skills. While complete military training is best achieved in person, perfection is not always required to accomplish the mission. Some of the 9-11 pilots had never flown a real plane. They had only trained using Microsoft Flight Simulator. I can't... that galls me. What can I say? Yeah. Well, what you can say is that I think they've reached the bottom of the barrel. This was from the Washington Post and whatever Glenn Greenwald gave them

1:09:02 It's- they gave them crap because they're really scraping at the insides now. They're now publishing things, making it seem like it's already happening, but when you really, really read it, it's dumb. This is like second year, maybe first year rookie analysis, and it's just a recommendation. Yeah, duh. I'm amazed they've been able to write two pages full of this crap. Yeah, we should go watch out for terrorists on online games. Duh. Yeah, sure. That's a good idea. Yeah, well, you know, they're blowing stuff up left and right, Adam. Something has to be done. Exactly. Then we have a feud going on, which really I love this, between Siebel Edmonds, Glenn Greenwald, and Pierre Omnicar. And it's a good one. Now, we know who Siebel Edmonds is. You remember her name?

1:09:58 Yeah, I do remember her. I don't remember. I don't know about this feud though. You got it on the far see translator whistleblower All right, right, right, right, right? They they they threw her in jail really shut her up with gag orders and she now does analysis under boiling frogs post she does a podcast as well and some stuff and she and she doesn't really have all that much but I like what she's doing and she's poking these guys in the eye. She wrote this article, US government, an implicated billionaire, fortune-seeking journalists, and a public in the dark. It's a great title. You have to read this. So what she's saying is the billionaire owner of PayPal Corporation has entered into a 250 million business partnership with two journalists, Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras,

1:10:46 a journalist duo who possess the entire cache of evidence provided by Edward Snowden despite earlier pledges by the journalist in question. Only one percent of Snowden's documents have been released. She's got sources to all of this. Now what she's saying is that PayPal is in cahoots with the NSA and she has documentation and quotes to back it up and thus you'd have Omidyar Co-opting greenwald correct. Yeah, duh. Oh, yeah, duh But she she did it and it's and again. It's like this lovely pastime just watch these guys Try and combat the incoming fire, and they do it completely wrong

1:11:30 And now they're resorting to calling her names and calling her an idiot. Oh, please! They're doing it all wrong. I predict this venture will never get off the ground. They're never going to open. It will not happen. It's too hot of a potato. Yeah, I can put that in the Red Book. I wouldn't disagree with the theory that the thing is just smoke and mirrors, never gonna happen. For one thing, there's nobody there that does... Who amongst this group? Jay Rosen? Glenn Green? Any of them. There's not an Andrew Sullivan in the group that even knows how to blog.

1:12:13 No. Let alone open a website. I mean, yeah, Omidar knows about the, you know, he had engineers design the PayPal website, but there's no content management guru in this group, is there? Not that I know of, no. Well, we'll see what happens. But I think this, and we looked at, I think right after the show the other day, we looked at Pierre Omidar, who was responding to PandoDaily. Guys this is not how if you got to be above all this if you're serious about it. I think they're dead I think I know they got into a pissing contest with a car character Back and forth and back and forth on Twitter like why are you doing this to yourself? You're just making yourself miserable. This is dumb. Yeah, it's it's it's almost unbelievable

1:13:08 Now we'll see we'll see what else yeah now Greenwald has he sold another article to the Swedes I wonder what what they charge It's probably a grand or it's probably is not it's probably not as much as you think but more than you'd expect Or the other way around I think the the NRC that Greenwald did that piece for which was Not it wasn't a great revelation. It was like no, no the NSA may not have stopped spying after 1948 okay, and it was all in English so they didn't even pay for a translator I think the what I understood from people in the Netherlands is that they paid him 1500 but that sounds about right I think 1500 for a small country, but Sweden I don't know and and there's also now an hour-long interview kind of documentary about Glenn of course

1:14:08 Yeah, well he's doing okay for himself publicity wise. But in terms of effectiveness I'm not seeing it. No, I agree. Alright, well. Let me go back to my list here and see if there's anything really interesting going on. There was an incident in the San Francisco Bay Area about rents. Is this the faker guy that was screaming? Yeah, some guy, some phony, some actor. And they got all over the net, look at this, these Google douchebags. How high they will go. Think you pay a lot for your apartment? Meet Raymond Wang. I live in 150 square feet of space for $700. A Harvard study shows 35% of Americans are now renters, the highest in a decade. Jack Gonzalez moved to San Francisco last year and is still suffering rent sticker shock.

1:14:08 Yeah, well he's doing okay for himself publicity wise. But in terms of effectiveness I'm not seeing it. No, I agree. Alright, well. Let me go back to my list here and see if there's anything really interesting going on. There was an incident in the San Francisco Bay Area about rents. Is this the faker guy that was screaming? Yeah, some guy, some phony, some actor. And they got all over the net, look at this, these Google douchebags. How high they will go. Think you pay a lot for your apartment? Meet Raymond Wang. I live in 150 square feet of space for $700. A Harvard study shows 35% of Americans are now renters, the highest in a decade. Jack Gonzalez moved to San Francisco last year and is still suffering rent sticker shock.

1:15:02 But it's San Francisco and you have to be here. What's worse, the study shows 31% are paying at least half their income in rent, considered a heavy financial burden. Only half? I'm doing well! What is that all about? I'm paying more than half of my income for my rent. Are ya? Yeah! You kidding me? Thank you too much. Well, yeah, but you know, we work from home. We need studio space. What else am I gonna do? Well in your case, I don't know. Make more money is what I'm- Mickey says, what should we do? I said make more money. That's always my idea. That would work. Let's try to make some more money.

1:15:46 Well, you'd be spending all your money if you were in San Francisco. Yeah, I know that and another 10% to state taxes. Now that would not work out at all. No, it's terrible. At all. So anyway, so they had this, there was a bunch of protesters gathered around a Google bus, which was coming into San Francisco to pick up Googlers. And so they, they, they blocked the bus and some guy went on to a rant that showed up on, uh, Everywhere, I saw it everywhere. It showed up everywhere and it was a hoax. And everybody, they took it hook, line and sinker. But it was a good actor, I have to say. It was very convincing.

1:16:23 The guy was a douchebag who was bitching and moaning about how you people should get out of the city if you can't afford to live here. It was great. But he was, I understand he was a union guy or something? What was the angle? Yeah, he was one of the union guys. What was the angle there with the union stuff? The angle was try to make the Googlers look like the douchebags that... In other words, here's the way I would see it. Yeah, but does the union have a dispute with Google that I'm unaware of? No, I think this had to do with the bus drivers or it could have been anything The guy just happened to be a union. I think he's probably union actor We don't know the details of this character is still a little vague, but it was like they were making the I hate to say this but the guys that were the guy pretending to be a douchebag is a real person in terms of that type of person is all over the place the kind of the arrogant Tech worker

1:17:18 That is in San Francisco. But you know, it's whatever it is, it is. I just thought it was funny that the entire, everybody bought into the act. Right. To the very end. Well, that was, again, it's that little tech community and little piece of the world that seems to be so important. Well, it is in the area that's got, now the traffic is ruined and everything else is bad too. I'm sorry. You got a piece for I got a thing for you here. Try this. Tell me what you think of this one. This one actually caught me off guard and I picked up on a very obscure news show. Canada moves on the North Pole. Okay.

1:18:04 Canada is to lay claim to the North Pole as part of a bid to assert control over a large part of the resource-rich Arctic. Foreign Minister John Byrd said the paperwork had gone in to a UN commission which is currently collecting competing claims. Denmark and Russia won't be pleased as the region lies on a continental shelf they control. Don't you think it was time for Canada to take it to just put a stake in the ground up there? Yeah. Apparently the whole area, you know, I mean the Russians wanted went to North Pole apparently the Danes went to North Pole. I saw Canada actually is pretty close to the North Pole. Yeah, I was reading a shell. Let me see. I have it here. It's in Dutch. Shell will be starting with the production of oil and gas in the North Pole 2025.

1:18:51 They say they're starting their test drilling in 2014, 2015. It's gonna get busy up there. It's gonna be a lot of people jockeying for position. Shell of course. There must be a lot of good stuff up there. I think that's why they're melting it. Dynamite. Well, now that kind of brings me to a great conversation I heard. This was on CNN, which of course no one really watches CNN, and while they're in this transition to, you know, getting celebrity chefs and travel shows and anything but news, they gave Don Lemon a show.

1:19:28 It's called, I don't know, it's like... The Don Lemon Show. No, it's not quite that bad. It's like 11 Live or something. It's dumb. Lemon Live. Let's call it Lemon. The Lemon Show. Hey, that would be good. The Lemon Show. So Don is on. And he has on with him a guy from the Sierra Club. Now the Sierra Club are pretty much all in on climate change, global warming and what have you. And then they bring in simultaneously, it's a tri-box. One guy who didn't talk at all. He was some, I don't know, some consultant. He didn't get a word in edgewise. And the other guy is the guy from the Climate Depot. You know, climatedepot.org, I think it is.

1:20:13 who was all against the climate change meme. And it was really, it was a good conversation. It was, the Climate Depot guy just went off so eloquently. And so I have three clips here. First we get the the Climate Depot guy with a setup from from Lemon, which is beautiful. And then the Sierra Club guy and then we go back and the Sierra Club guy or the Climate Depot guy just rails on the Sierra Club guy. It was an interesting exchange with some facts and some calling out of the other guy and I thought it was just good because it brings in our basic

1:20:52 thesis that we're headed towards global cooling and they're telling us to buy bathing suits in which we're all going to freeze to death. Look at what we're experiencing now. We're experiencing below zero temperatures in Chicago earlier than any time in the last two decades. A record snowfall for today in New York. Tomorrow morning, 90% of the country will face below normal temperatures. If this isn't climate change, then what is it? By the way, I love how Don Lemon is all in on freezing temperatures being climate change. That's where we're headed. Isn't that great? I just it's how smart were they to change it from global warming to climate change?

1:21:28 So that was a smart move genius in the within it within this trio of clips slip mine in which is another one that kind of backs this up which is snow in the Middle East okay, we'll do I'll do it right after this first piece so record cold is now evidence of man-made global warming what evidence would disprove climate change it seems like no matter the weather everything that happens proves it the bottom line is in 2013 we're having one of the least extreme weather years on record and This report came out about a month ago and if you look at the longer term trend, there's actually a declining or no trend in US droughts or global droughts. There's no trend in floods going back I think up to 127 years. One study was a journal nature on the droughts. Tornadoes, big tornadoes F3 and larger have been on decline since the 1950s. Hurricanes, the US has gone almost

1:22:18 eight years now, over eight years, without a major category three or larger hurricane hitting the longest period since before 1900. So on every measure of extreme weather it ain't there. Global weirding is nothing more than a pseudo- I think that's a mistake. He blew it by saying that. There's no reason. He had all the facts, he's lined up, he's doing great, and then he has to call it global weirding. Dumb. Yeah, you know that's what the right wing does. Dumb. They change everything, you know. Dumb, dumb, dumb. They change these names. Well, we do that. We change names. Yeah, but we're not right wing. True, but it was just dumb.

1:22:55 And in the 1970s, the global cooling scare, as popularized in the media and by many scientists, they blamed extreme weather, in fact, this specifically Newsweek, the 1974 tornado outbreaks on global cooling. They had their own 1970s version of global warming. We get your point. You don't think it's real. Well, the scientific journals don't think it's real. Michael, where do you... Obviously, you think he's wrong, don't you? I do. You know, all of what Mark said would be very compelling if it were true. Just you're lying. It wasn't in time. We didn't see that. Lies! This is something that has been settled. The science is settled right now. The science is settled. The shh-cience is shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh-shh

1:23:46 This is so bad. Thousands of them are now as confident that climate change is real as they are that cigarettes make people sick. And this was not in the IPCC report, I would like to point out. Nowhere in the report do they say, we're so confident this is real. It's just that we climate guys know that cigarettes kill you. This is the stupidest argument. This is a guy peddling on talking points. The only folks who are arguing this are the occasional climate skeptic or the people who are paid for by the fossil fuel industry. That would be us, John. Paid for by the fossil fuel industry. Hey, where's our money?

1:24:27 We know that the extreme weather events that we're seeing, the record wildfires, the record droughts, the extreme storms that we're seeing, the hurricane that we saw with a thousand mile diameter that hit the eastern seaboard late October last year, are precisely what scientists have said would be the cause of global warming and climate change. It was predicted! It was in the red book. It is time now for a check of the weather. People in Istanbul, Turkey are trudging through heavy snow. Mai Shoji shows us what it looks like there and elsewhere in world weather. Yes, Catherine, much of Turkey is experiencing a winter wonderland after two days of snowfall. It's cold out there too. Now pulling you back here, you can see a very big high pressure system that's covering much of the central regions and that pushed the jet stream all the way down towards northern Egypt. That's why we're looking at these kind of temperatures well below

1:25:24 the average range and the snow is likely to continue into Istanbul into Friday. Damascus you're likely to see snowfall on your Friday and into Saturday. Jerusalem's actually looking at snow as of now and it will be turning into sleet finally by Saturday so looks like we're going to be looking I got a call from Taxi Eric. He's my he's my the guy my buddy drives the cab in Amsterdam. He says dad dude Antarctica new record 93.2 below zero centigrade. That's like a hundred and thirty five Yeah, it's pretty cool. I miss a hundred. That's extremely cold now. Let's go back to this the Sierra guy he says something which is so ludicrous because I live here and

1:26:10 Well, we do have records that go back hundreds or even thousands of years that can show how the Earth's temperatures have increased dramatically in the last 150 years. Okay, we have records that go back thousands of years and we can show the last 150 years. And the concentration of global warming gases in the atmosphere are at levels that we haven't seen in millions of years. Millions! And we know that this is because of the burning of fossil fuels. But if you put all of that aside, What the thing, the thing that we need to embrace right now is... Put all of it aside. We know, what's he talking about? He's trying to scare you. This is completely like the book. Which I can never remember the title.

1:26:53 Yeah, we'll play out. These extreme weather events that we're seeing, that we're beginning to experience right now are causing a serious deterioration of the quality of our lives across the country. I've talked to ranchers in Nebraska who have lost their cattle because of the severe drought that they're experiencing. I've talked to families in Texas, the massive wildfire outside of Austin, Texas. Hold on a second. The massive wildfire? That was four years ago. And yeah, it was, you know, but the fires are started for different reasons. And this, anything can burn at any point. And by the way, we are pretty much above average for rain this year. And he's bringing that into the conversation as climate change? Fire is not climate change. It's just not true. Destroyed 1200 homes. Almost, in a period of less than 24 hours. My own family's house was flooded in New Jersey because of Superstorm Sandy. Oh gosh, I lived in New Jersey. It flooded all the time!

1:27:57 The whole state's a flood zone. With or without Superstorm Standy, it flooded all the time, just one big rainstorm and trees would get washed away. It happened all the time. And around the country, if you haven't experienced an extreme weather event in the last couple years, give it a little bit of time because over the next couple decades, Almost all of us are going to have some relationship to these extreme weather events. We have to start creating our own weather event on this show, John. Do we have any weather? Don't we have weather? We need some sound effects. I'll load a bunch of sound effects that make it sound like it's storming. You had that one. Well, I remember doing it before. I don't know if we- Yeah, a couple years ago you had this one where you'd be out in the storm. Yeah, we'll load some storm stuff up and we've got to create our own because it's, you know, we have to prepare everybody for the inevitable. It's going to happen. You can't get away from it. All right, so now let's wind this up with a guy from Climate Depot.

1:28:57 schooling the Sierra Club guy on where his money comes from. The bottom line is the Arctic ice was started monitoring in 1979 at a high point of the 1970s global cooling scare. We lost ice. This year, by the way, we rebounded depending on what date you want to pick almost a third or more of the ice and global sea ice currently is at highest in 25 years. Antarctic sea ice is at on their record, which no one wants to talk about Antarctic sea ice. because it's inconvenient to the narrative but the idea that we're having extreme weather listening to michael talk there is just it's it's mind-boggling i mean the earth is geologically billions of years old and we're sitting around here scratching our heads saying wow we had a hurricane last year which was a cat barely a category one when it hit uh... and then by the way i'm not it's not me and he's mentioning funding by the way which i think's funny the sierra club took twenty six million from natural gas and michael has the audacity to try to imply that skeptics are fossil fuel funded

1:29:51 The bottom line is these are in scientific peer-reviewed journals. The studies I just cited on journal Nature on drought and floods was in a hydrological journal. I mean, there's no trend. You can't find the trends. Professor Roger Pilkey Jr. of the University of Colorado is testifying in Congress tomorrow on these very points. You can't find find the memo. Yes, you can make a lot of interesting stories out of it. Sierra Club can raise money. But it's akin to saying many bad things will happen. Therefore, when a bad thing happens, you say, hey, see, I told you so. It's consistent with our theory. Hey, we should use that. We should do that. We should just predict bad stuff all the time.

1:30:29 Yeah, maybe I bring up the donations. Yeah, to 26 million apparently. Or maybe the natural gas folks will give us some money. So check this out. I get an email from one of our producers. He says, we've got this group up here in Seattle, Washington, Physicians for Social Responsibility, and they want to shut down the Richland nuclear power plant. which has been around for 16, 17 years. It's very profitable, you know, it's working well, but of course, you know, it's nuclear so we have to shut it down.

1:31:05 And he sends me a note and he says, man, what is going on? This has been such a profitable region. Everybody's making, the whole economy of Richmond runs around, evolves around this plant. People working there, bringing stuff in, whatever they have to do. Making sandwiches, I don't know, it works. And the reports show that the increase, if they shut down the plant, would be about $2.5 billion over a 20 year period. they go natural gas which is what this physicians for social responsibility want to do I'm like okay let me go take let me go take a look so these people are literally being used as suckers well but by t-boon pickens well that's what I thought but when I went into their form 990

1:31:57 They're just a bunch of liars. It's the name that bugs me, Physicians for Social Responsibility. On their Form 990, this is the tax return which you have to give to the IRS, Form 990-2012, you have to describe the organization's mission. It's on the first page of the form. Physicians for Social Responsibility works with its affiliated US chapters, they're all over the country, to educate the health community and the public about the need for policies to abolish nuclear weapons, increase use of diplomacy, reverse climate change without nuclear power, and reduce toxic threats.

1:32:44 that reduce climate change without nuclear power, it's in their mission from a bunch of so-called doctors. This is a front organization. It's only like a million bucks or something, a million seven, small, small enough to not be too obvious but on the radar nonetheless. And they're all about the gas. This is all about bringing in natural gas. Which means fracking. Yep. Be that what it may, I mean it's just, you know... And it means tea, boon, pickens, and fracking. So they're for fracking. Yes. You know, it's a double-edged sword to take this approach. In which way? Well, the fracking is not a positive thing for the environment. No. It's not a positive thing for anything. It's a dangerous process. It's a way I've always believed, even though this is just a crackpot, I do have a crackpot element.

1:33:40 I've always believed that the whole fracking thing's a scam and these secret chemicals that they each always gets you what's in this stuff that you're pumping down there It's a secret. You can't tell you it's a I can't tell you cuz the secret what secret is it they're they're taking waste products products that no dump will take anymore and there's no incineration facilities, no way of getting rid of this crap and they're injecting it into the fracking process to get rid of it. I'm telling you, I'm totally convinced of this. This is interesting because you... Because of this secret. It's such a secret. Wait a minute, fracking is a known process, it works a certain way. What is this secret liquid that they keep pumping down there? That's a very good point. This is the exact same conspiracy theory about the fluoride in the water. Fluoride is a byproduct of industry and in order to get rid of it, the best way is just to flush it so it shows up in water and then we say it's good for your teeth.

1:34:39 I'm on board with what you're saying and you're right. This has come up multiple times. What are they calling it? Like a trade secret? That's why they can't... The trade secret, what we're using. I don't know what you're using. You're using crap. Old toluene, benzene bottoms, leftovers, crap from the refinery they can't seem to get rid of and it won't burn. I mean, who knows what's in that stuff, but it's a secret. And every one of these two big companies has a secret. And they're shooting it into the earth. Oh boy. Pay no attention to that. It's way below the water table, don't worry. I think I'm with you on that. It's a thought. Before we get into... What bothers me in an old process like this, it's got secret ingredients. Yeah, like new coke and old coke. There was a... it's finally happened, John. I think they're on to us. A blog post that has gone viral about our show.

1:35:42 Ha, right. Have you seen this? No, I'm completely oblivious to this. This is from the Moral Volcano blog. Oh, that has a huge readership. It does now. The U.S. government is the biggest manufacturer of conspiracy theories and U.S. mainstream media and news agencies are the biggest disseminators of these official conspiracy theories. A significant section of the American public is aware of this propaganda and they actively seek alternative sources of news and information. To bring the lost flock back into their reality distortion field, the US government has hired many conspiracy theorists outside the mainstream media. US government agencies including the defense and state departments have a propaganda budget running into hundreds of billions of dollars. Thousands of government workers are employed solely on propaganda purposes meant to influence the public and lawmakers.

1:36:36 These government-sponsored conspiracy theorists work with varying levels of sophistication. The aim is to feed disinformation to skeptics so that the latter will be laughed out if they ever choose to spread these theories outside their charmed circle of friends and family. Adam Curry regularly solicits insider information, particularly from cis admins. Anyone sending privileged information to the show can be traced back... Does he say the name of the show? Oh yeah, oh yeah. The whole thing is about the No Agenda show. Oh, so we work for the government. Well, it's about me and then separately about you. Anyone sending privileged information to the show, capital S, can be traced back, put under surveillance, and or subject to harassment by the government.

1:37:24 If you absolutely need, send the show some in-secret information, send it anonymously. Curry claims that he hosts his email server in his own home and can handle PGP mail. For novices, this may sound as if any email to his server is protected. In reality, any connection to his email server can be traced back to the computer from which the mail originated. I was about to put some ads in local newspapers for the show when I decided to do some due diligence. I started an email conversation with Adam Curry where I got him worked up so much he strongly asserted he will not stop talking about TSA X-ray machines until they were gone. But when I suggested he raise the question why passengers in private aircraft were not being checked, there was silence. So it looked like he did not want the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds of the world groped at private airfields.

1:38:17 In many of his podcasts you will find Curry promoting US Congressmember Ron Paul. Ron Paul and his family are associated with secret societies. How old is this thing? You haven't said anything about Ron Paul for over a year and a half? It's brand new this thing. It's brand new. If anyone had... This guy's got a hard-on for you. Well... Uh, let's see. Many of the conspiracy theories Adam Curry promotes are originally taken off disinfopedia.com. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm subscribing to disinfopedia.com. Despite the giveaway name, some people are so dumb they believe all that junk. This guy is actually saying that I steal from him. Some of the jokes that Curry and Dvorak make about donors slash producers seem to be inside jokes based on profiles built by security agencies.

1:39:10 Oh yeah. I'm still investigating Dvorak and exactly when Dvorak became a Rockefeller Standard Oil media asset. Not much of an asset considering he predicted Apple would never make much out of its entry into the phone business and certainly not beat Nokia. He has also been to University of California, Berkeley which he himself claims is Spook Central. And here comes. Dvorak writes in a fashion very similar to Gail Omvet, an economic hitman or hitwoman from the University of Berkeley. We've never seen them in the same picture at the same time, have we? This is just a joke. It's not a joke. This guy is serious as a heart attack. No, no. It's just a put-on. Okay. Okay. Either that or it's insane. Well, that's likely.

1:40:04 It's all over NoahJendershow.gov. Is Adam Curry a Freemason? This is from yesterday. I'm a Freemason and a Rockefeller shill. I like the Rockefeller shill thing. Where's our money? I'd be okay with it if we got dough. Yeah. Rockefeller shit. What year is this? This is 1970. This is December 8th, 2013. Geez. Noagendashow.gov is Adam Curry of Freemason.

1:40:41 Well, I can kind of see that because he's showing, you know that little logo I have that I built for the Big App Show and still use with the top hat and the brush and the pencil? Yeah. That kind of looks like a Freemason compass, I have to agree. And then he's showing our donation page. They've even taken, they even use knights as levels of... It's a Freemason, it's a Masonic thing, John. and you and I apparently are high-level operatives at Mevio. Okay. Anyway, I just thought I'd share that with you. Yeah, well at least you get some publicity. At least we're getting some notoriety. It's the first time we've gotten an actual blog post about us being disinfo. I think that's a tipping point.

1:41:33 Yeah, I wonder who could be... Who is this guy? He says he got into a conversation with you. This I can't remember. I don't remember ever talking about TSA, not at private airports, and that I was... I don't know. I have no idea. No, we have talked about this. This was a long time ago though. I mean, this guy's obviously been dogging you for a while. He's always been mad for a while, that's for sure. No, it's like, but I guess he was a fan and then he woke up And he knows now he's figured it out. Well, he might be one of those guys who we forgot to mention in a birthday call-out or something. Really? We have some sensitive listeners. Yeah, I think you're right about that. Let's see if we can do it better this time. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Alright, so I've got to do this by myself since John...

1:42:28 I blew up. Yeah, you blew up. Sir Robert Montoya from Pleasant Hill, California. 120-120. Hello, Adam John. Today's my birthday. 12-12-13. Hey, is he on the list? Can I please get a Nelson Mandela chemtrails Japanese Minister of Transportation. Don't ruff. The Black Knight of Pleasant Hill, Robert Montoya. Let me just double check because I don't see him highlighted properly. Now see? This is the whole Dvorak family has become dysfunctional because of this wedding. Hold on a second, let me put Sir Robert Montoya on the list. There we go. Does he have an age? What did we say here? 12-12-13, okay. Yes, so we will of course play some Karma for you and I don't know about the whole... Well I guess we could do a chemtrails and... I gotta up the volume on the Don't Raph guy, it's not working too well.

1:43:26 Patrick Turner, uh, sorry, Sir Scott Olson, uh, with a Make It Rain donation, uh, 1111 San Diego, California. San Diego Knight checking in for my birthday, 1212, and Scott is indeed on the list. And also for making it rain karma, please call Kimberly to the stage Also emailed out in a clip to support John's thesis the NSA mass collection of all the data is useless because it's too much to comb through It's a more recent interview with the NSA whistleblower William Binney just in case yeah, we got that It's interesting, but not really playable on the show, but I always appreciate the clippage when it comes in and yeah, any Benny has a lie He said he's bitter

1:44:07 Yeah, it just wasn't really exciting. It's like, yeah, okay. It's nothing new. There's no new revelations, let's put it that way. Patrick Turner, another Make It Rain donation. Patrick's in Austin, Texas. No girl to call on stage or boy. So Patrick, you have until Sunday to get your dancer in for the big club. Expose. Sir Baker from Oakland, California also making it rain for his lovely lady soon to be Dame who enjoys the rain equally. We'd love to see Amber on stage. Cheers, says Sir Baker. P.S. Your opening on Sunday about Mandela was spot on. Santa classification indeed. And the final make it rain donation Sir Ralph Nalison from Apache. Aachen. There we go. I can't even read. Aachen in Germany. This is good to listen to.

1:45:03 Yeah, but I get some appreciation. I have appreciation, but then could you please do the jingles while I'm reading because that's what I'm doing. Well, you're double duty. You said so yourself. Who does he make it rain for? Hi Adam and John, I should be becoming baron by now. Indeed, we should be giving him that title today. May I request neutral moors net part of Belgium nowadays under the reign of the Grand Duke. Yeah, I think that shouldn't be a problem. You can have a barony under a dukedom. Yeah, I think so, yeah. Sir Ralph, P.S. my bookkeeping isn't as good as well, but I was made knight for the second time in December 2012. Maybe he has a little more accounting there. P.P.S. Neutral Moorsnet has been an interesting area before World War I when it was independent. It seems some of my ancestors lived there. Okay, Sir Ralph, we will make sure that you get that. And of course, I'm just... Where is that?

1:45:57 In Belgium? I think it's, uh... It must be on the border of Belgium and France. I never heard of it. Morsnet. I'll look it up. Yeah. Later. There's also, is it itm.im slash peers? I think we, uh... We have the peerage. Let me just check that. Do you have, uh, did he have somebody make it rain for somebody? Uh, let me see... No, he didn't, doesn't have a name there. Okay, well, so far we've only got Chris the Dude.

1:46:34 Hillary, Angela, Kimberly and Amber. Well if you want to get it in guys to bring your dancer on stage, Sunday will be the day. And for those of you looking at the peerages go to itm.im slash peers and that's where we have a an up-to-date map of our knights, our barons, our dukes, grand dukes, etc. It's a nice little map that we have going on. Yeah, boots on the ground. Yes, wherever you are in the world, you're not far from no agenda peerage to help you out. Onward, Paul Roberson from Uppertrack, West Virginia. $100, thank you very much. Sir Thomas Nussbaum, checking in with $93 from Virginia Beach. 93 days tobacco nicotine free.

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1:58:09 And then we've got quite a list. Let me see, we have Sir Ralph becoming a Baron. Okay, we have that. Let me just mark this. Andrew Blackburn, who was supposed to be knighted on 572, so he does become an official black knight. Edward Jacobs about to be knighted, Knight of the Appalachian Piedmont. James Piers, as we know, Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel. And Kyle Kinzel. Did we do Kyle's note, John? Yeah, we did. We did Kyle's notes, so if you don't mind... Do you have your blade there or did you not have that either? No, I got the blade. Don't you have to wear that on your ceremonial uniform for the wedding? I have a different blade for that. Alright, Andrew Blackburn, Seth Ford, Edward Jacobs, James Pyers and Kyle Kinzel! All of you have contributed to the best podcast in the universe and about to have $1,000 more and therefore I am very proud to pronounce the Sir Black Knight Andrew Blackburn

1:59:08 Sir Edward Jacobs, Knight of the Appalachian Piedmont, James Piers, Sir Wyre of the Hidden Jewel, and Kyle Kinzel, Sir Kyle. Gentlemen, please come on down for your cannabis and cabernet, librarians and Jagerbombs, hot librarians, that is, opium and warm orange juice, hookers and blow, geishas and a bucket of fried chicken, rentboys and chardonnay, a bong hits and bourbon, or maybe just sparkling cider and escorts, maybe some mutton and meat. The list has gotten long. I should publish this list. I'll put it in the show notes for today. Yes, you should publish the list and then just refer to the list. Go to that list to see if there's something there you like. It's kind of like a happy meal menu. And of course go to noagendanation.com slash rings to go pick up your well-coveted deserved night ring along with your sealing wax. I got a little story that I picked up from one of our producers. Okay, read it.

2:00:10 What is your understanding of what happened with the Cobalt-60 in Mexico? I have no understanding of the Cobalt-60 in Mexico. But do you remember how it was presented, right? It was kind of like, oh, some guy stole a truck and... What was presented as, well, it depends on what the outlet was, but I think the general presentation was a guy stole a truck and it accidentally, unknown to the guy, had a bunch of Cobalt-60 in it and the guy had to be careful because he'd kill himself. if he came in contact with this stuff. So the truck was just laying casually around and a guy took it because he was a truck thief. That's all I know. What do you have? Here's what I have from an anonymous source. Boots on the ground. Boots on the ground. Boots on the ground happens to be an EOD expert. EOD is, these are the explosive guys who go clean stuff up when it's explosive.

2:01:12 And they were called, he was called to duty, you know, be at base in an hour. And he wound up, and I can't even tell you where he was, what state, because that might compromise him. But it turns out he was not alone. There were 300 EOD experts gathered within that hour. 300 is probably half, if not 70% of all the top EOD experts in the country. This is not just a couple guys from one state. They were then flown on 10 Chinooks down to Mexico. And apparently there had been a firefight, so there were dead guys around.

2:02:03 The reason why they needed 300 of these guys is because you could only really handle or be around as they were, they had to clean it up. This cobalt for five minutes and then you have to switch out some other guy has to take over. And the story that I'm getting back is that this really was someone who had stolen or acquired this Cobalt-60 to place into a bomb, essentially make a dirty bomb. and that this has been covered up in time, certainly for the media, I don't know if it's a cover-up in general, but for the media it's been covered up and that there was, this really was a serious attack. And I'm surprised. Well that could be, I mean it's not on this within the six-week cycle. No. So they try to minimize things because you know it's alarming the public. Hey, you guys are too early! Stop that!

2:02:55 So a real, anytime something real happens, which this may be, sounds like, at least it was taken very seriously, but it's not in the script, so you gotta just go take care of it and shut up, tell people to shut up about it, because we don't want anyone getting too freaked out. Exactly. So there was a firefight, which means the government was, or somebody, some army, people who track this stuff, and then they, and the stuff got thrown out of the truck, what happened? No, I think the guys stole it and they were on their way to their lair or whatever to create their bomb which was apparently to be used in the United States and they were stopped by the authorities whether it's Mexican or US, I don't know. And there was a firefight and they killed him and then they had to clean up the mess and that was the Cobalt-60 that was left over. Well, there's a missing piece of the puzzle.

2:03:51 Well, there's a lot of missing pieces. Which one are you referring to? For me, is the Cobalt-60 was in a container of some sort. What happened? Did it get scattered or was the container rolling down the hill and it broke open? I mean, what specifically... The way I understand it is in the firefight you know, either it opened up or the container opened, whatever. Well, maybe the container was never opened. It's still, this stuff is so radioactive or so toxic that you can't, even when you have your hazmat suit and everything, you still can't be around it for too long, which is why they had to have so many guys rotating to clean it up. So there was a cleanup of sorts. I don't know. I don't even know what Cobalt-60 looks like. I mean, was it powder? I mean, I don't know.

2:04:34 Is it the group like toothpaste? I have no idea. So I don't have all the information. We will have to do some follow up on this. This is a good story. Well, yeah, unfortunately, this is about all I can say because I've I've really been This is all I can say. This is all I know, but it's also all I can say. I don't know if we'll get any more. But we can find out about Cobalt-60 a little bit. For sure. And what's it used for normally and why was it being driven around in a truck? Medical purposes. It was supposed to be disposed of. So, you know, radiation device or something like that for cancer. I think that's what they use it for. I think he's just making it up. What?

2:05:13 I see you're just making it up. You don't know what it was used for? No, I asked specifically what was it used for and that was the answer I got. Medical? Yeah, Cobalt 60. I'm pretty sure we can, we'll just... Consult the book of knowledge! Cobalt 60. It is a, here we go, radioactive isotope, yes, applications, State sterilization of medical equipment. There you go. Radiation source for medical radiotherapy. I'm not a total dick. Are you still there? Yeah. I don't know. I know I'm listening. I thought there's more to it. I know. I just I didn't hear I didn't hear you breathing so I didn't know. Radiation source for food irradiation, blood irradiation, radiation source for laboratory mutagenesis use. Let's see safety

2:06:18 And then they have, of course, that's the... Oh, here it is. In December 2013, a truck carrying a disused 111 TBQ Cobalt-60 teletherapy source from a hospital in Tijuana to a radioactive waste storage center was hijacked at a gas station. There you go. The source was found abandoned and intact in a field close by. See, that's the part that we don't know about. That's the bull crap. That's the bull crap part. 18 and 19 Mexico informs theft of dangerous radioactive. Yeah I mean also the fact that would that our guys had to go in at all You know that meant something I mean what yeah the Mexican authorities can't find a hijacked truck now You know it we had something to do with it, or there was something about it for us. I'm surprised this story was completely suppressed

2:07:08 Well, I was surprised too. It really makes you wonder how much of this is scripted and everything goes off script. It's just like, you're just repressed. But that is the annoying thing. Why can't we know that? They want to scare us? Why can't we? That was a good one. I'm like, yeah, go Chinook guys. Go EOD guys. Now I'm happy about what we... Are you clipping your toenails? No, no, I was there's a ballpoint pen. Yeah, and so I'm really happy when I hear these stories But why can't we know that and why do we have to hear the bullcrap one? You know like we found you know the underwear bomber or they you know Why they have to make all that stuff up when the truth is so good It's like the fracking it's all of that. It's what I find I find it to be very peculiar and

2:07:58 Why can't they just tell I believe the story I believe this guy is part of that's a team that went in there Yeah, and then You know had to deal with this mess. I don't know maybe it's to keep you know the terrorist mind Keep the terrorists off because now they already stole it so they already knew something right. I don't know I want to give anybody any ideas I Have no idea All right, referring back to our donations and besides I forgot... Devorac.org slash N-A I think I forgot to remind you to help us out. Yes, we do have a Sunday show coming up and we need continuous support obviously. A new report out which is exactly why you should be listening to the best podcast in the universe and this refers to the producer Kathleen who was

2:08:47 we have saved from watching Bravo. engaging in, in the week following the Boston Marathon bombings, the more likely they were to report acute stress symptoms. We wish we knew how that happened, but it's an association that needs to be further studied for sure. One of the things that we do know is that we've seen studies recently that have shown that watching videos of traumatic images can actually engage fear conditioning centers in the brain as well as

2:09:36 encourage people to develop flashbacks following these kinds of exposures. So we don't know what that media exposure is doing in the brain and that's what needs to be, we need to find out more information about that. What we do know is that this was media exposure from a variety of sources. I want to make that clear. We included social media, so Twitter, Facebook, as well as traditional forms of media like television, radio, print, etc. So it was an accumulation of all types of media exposures in that week following the Boston Marathon bombings. There you go. It makes you ill.

2:10:14 Well, there's two things that are ancillary to this I should mention. One was a study a few years ago that showed that people who watch network news were more depressed than the general public and they associated that with watching the news, which is always never good news, always bad news. The other one is another study that showed that people who watch football have the same, I think I mentioned this on the show before, have this end up with the same hormonal changes and excitement and levels of whatever go through the system as the winning team if they're rooting for the winning team and they have the same negative effects on the body as the losing team if they're rooting for the losing team. So you have a stadium full of people who are

2:10:58 you know, having the same kind of elation that the players have. Which is, by the way, and I've said this, that's why you should always pick a winning team and just root for them. Yeah, always pick the winning team. Yeah, it's called a fair weather fan and it's the smart money. It'll make you feel better. But also knowing that you're being bullcrapped helps. That's why the No Agenda show is good for your general health. Yeah, I think so because I think if you watch these things that these women were citing and you have the no agenda mentality you're skeptical and you go this is not... I had an idea about this but it may be hard. So Miss Miki has this thyroid medication we've talked about it before and she gets it compounded which has really changed her life in the past few years since we found this doctor here and the people's pharmacy

2:11:52 So yesterday we discover that almost certainly ours but almost no insurance companies will cover compounded medication anymore. Because of course, you know, why should that? Why should we do that? You need to have the pre-packaged crap from Merck or whoever makes the branded stuff. So this is, it sucks. So now we have to pay for this out of pocket unless we want to go to the branded prefab pre-level stuff, which we don't want to do. That's the way it works. Yeah, you got to pay out of pocket. So I find out about this FSA thing, which is a

2:12:30 Was it free savings account or stands for something? And you can essentially it's a health savings. Yes agency, right? Well, no, it's an FSA. Well, well, I'm just look don't argue with me FSA and you can put two and a half Freedom and you can put up to two and a half thousand dollars per year into the FSA pre-tax Which you know that saves 35 for 30 percent whatever 28, you know, it's still money and then you get a debit card

2:13:07 which you can then subsequently use to purchase... Yeah, this is old. This is very similar to an HSA or an ESA, which is an educational savings account where you can put money aside for college. So I'm like, okay, we'll have to do this. And I go look at the list of things that are eligible for FSA that you can then use this debit card to pay for with your pre-tax money. You can even get tampons on this thing. So I'm thinking, why don't we, shouldn't the NOAA Gender Show be eligible for FSA payments if we're actually making you healthier? Yeah, if we want, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Adam. And by the way, let's also use that money to pay for some high-end accountants when the IRS comes by. It was just the thought. I'm looking at you, contact lens solution.

2:14:08 It's like this is the biggest scam. You can buy anything and also you can put away $5,000 pre-tax for dependent care. I think we could do that to each other. Yeah, we should have actually these savings accounts, these exempt savings accounts are a great idea. Yeah, well I'm very upset that once again here's yet another piece of medication that they're just not going to pay for. That's horrible. Oh, the, the... Okay. Yeah, it's like a hundred and ten bucks a month. That sucks. Well, you know, it's better than poking the eye with a sharp stick. At least this stuff works. Yeah. And it's time to play once again, John! Drone or not drone? No, it's not drone or not drone. It's better! And now, No Agendas, Bitcoin Bonanza. This week, Peter... Piero... Peter...

2:15:15 Taylor Swift, Elon Musk, and Satoshi Nakamoto this week on Bitcoin Bonanza. I just love the, he does a new one every week now. Yeah. I love, I like the slipping Taylor Swift. Pierre Acme Umudar. So they replaced the, the persons of interest show this week with the Victoria's Secrets crap the fashion thing which was the most overproduced piece of junk I've seen maybe for years. Taylor was hosting that wasn't she? Didn't Taylor Swift host that? She was in there hosting it and you know she could pull it off because she's tall. Yeah. You know you don't realize how tall she is when she's up against these you know 5'11 models but she hung in there. She's taller than 5'11? No she's I think like 5'11. Oh okay. She's very tall or 5'10 at least but

2:16:16 But you know I was just saying when she's standing next to him She doesn't look like some midget like a typical you know most things I saw a couple pictures I think I saw it at the supermarket in the checkout line, and they had pictures of that or maybe was somewhere else I can't remember remember I have to say for the first time I saw Taylor Swift kind of as a sexual object at that show She still looks like Donald Trump to me. I just can't get it out of my brain That's right. No agendas Bitcoin bonanza Current price $890 makes a lot of sense. Yeah, bounce back. You should have bought and bought hard at $500. Exactly like we predicted. Yeah. Yeah. Fidelity is now allowing clients to put bitcoins into their IRAs. This is pathetic. They shouldn't do that. Yeah, yeah. But there's an ETF, there's a fun second market, I guess.

2:17:10 And they have 15 million looking into this because he thinks the whole thing's a scam dog But he's trying to find some way in hell of sure being able to short Bitcoin. I think well He shouldn't do that, and it's too early. He should not be doing now He just wants to know how it can be done and apparently I can't just I would recommend against I wouldn't yeah You shouldn't go shorting that stuff. Just let it go. Yeah, I'm waiting for 10,000. Yeah, there are guys should have that slip that into the jingle So here's a new meme. I think this is going to take off. The one that took off already was STEM. Oh, uh, science, technology, engineering. They should just say science, tech, engineering, and math. How about sci, tech, eng, and math? I don't like STEM. No. It just doesn't sound good. It's missing the arts, which is an important piece of growing Europe. They don't want arts. They don't want nobody. No. No. No.

2:18:11 Just slaves, engineer slaves. So this is a new one, this is Neitz. And I'm starting to hearing this now quite a bit. All right. 165 young people held a media conference in Tokyo. They're often referred to as NEETs, which stands for Not in Education, Employment or Training. One survey suggests 630,000 Japanese fall into this category, but more and more of them are finding new ways to get a head start. Not in education, engineering or training? Yeah.

2:18:47 That means you're a bum bum. Yeah Bum BUM You're not doing anything Wow Watch this is the this is the meme of the day neat neat neat All right as we get as we draw closer. We're not quite in the clip clip of Palooza News from the Euro land the European Union, they had a long, long meeting, all the finance ministers, of course. We know that by 2017, the S has to hit the F. This is as per the Dvorak cycle prediction. And it looks like they're ready for 2016 and they're going to

2:19:33 set everybody up for, well, the bank collapses. Why? Because we have the basis of an agreement and what's that going to look like? Well, it begins with a Cyprus style bail-in. Those rules are going to be brought forward it seems to 2016. If more money is needed then we go to national resolution funds and if yet still more money is needed then we look to pool the money across different countries.

2:20:13 over the course of the next five to ten years those individual funds will become the basis of a common fund. We will have a European fund as far as I'm concerned, that's definitely my position, but there will be, especially in the first years, some national responsibility and if that causes a problem then we have the ESM according to the agreed rules. So I think the outlines of how it's going to work are becoming more and more clear. And this is the sticking point for some of these other finance ministers, the likes of France and the likes of Spain. They want that common rescue fund to be more decided, more outlined before we can reach an agreement here. So we have the basis, we have the idea of scope, we can do this outside of the current EU treaties but it still comes down to just what this

2:21:01 common eurozone rescue fund looks like. So here's the way I read this. The collapse is coming, they know it. And the first money that will be taken for failed banks is your money. Of course they'll do it Cyprus style. They've already tested that idea and it worked. And Cyprus worked very well. Sorry Mr. Oil. Then the second step will be national money, so the taxpayers of the country where it took place. And then if all else fails, oh well, then we'll take some of the central banking money, which is the European stability mechanism, which really comes from all the other countries in the Eurozone. They're gearing up for it, John. It sounds like it's just on its way. Yeah. Well, it is. Yeah, I mean, there's no surprise there, but still.

2:21:56 Now, unreported. The timing is going to be interesting. Well, Godfrey Bloom of, I think he's of UKIP. I think he's, is Godfrey Bloom, is he not Nigel Farage's colleague? Let me check here. Is he in the European Commission? Is he a representative from the UK? Yeah, he's a member of Parliament. The UK Parliament, I mean the EU Parliament. Yeah, let me just check. I think he's with the UK Independent Party. Is it here? European Parliament, yeah UKIP. I don't know where Nigel is. We haven't seen Farage for a while. He's been in the campaigning for something. Oh yeah, well he's campaigning to win I think. He wants to get votes to overturn the EU.

2:22:47 Yeah, well that's not going to happen. Well here's his... not according to Godfrey. Well Mr. President, I'm minded actually to quote the great American philosopher Murray Rothbard here that the state, the state is an institution of theft writ large. Tax is just about a system where politicians and bureaucrats steal money from their citizens to squander in the most disgraceful manner. This place is no exception. Fascinatingly, and I really don't know how you manage to keep a straight face when you're talking about tax evasion,

2:23:24 The whole Commission and the Commission bureaucracy avoid their taxes. You don't pay taxes like citizens pay taxes. You have all sorts of special deals, composite tax rates, high tax thresholds, non-contributive pension schemes. You are the biggest tax avoiders in Europe and here you sit pontificating. Well, the message is getting home to the people of the European Union. You're going to find that Eurosceptics are coming back in June in ever greater numbers. In ever greater numbers. And I can tell you worse, as the people get your number, it won't be long before they storm this chamber and they hang you and they'll be right.

2:24:05 I'm ready. Wow, he's advocating hanging them. That's fantastic. A French revolution. I like it. I think this guy's on to something. They'll be right. They'll be right. Groovy. Well just before it happens tomorrow... Let me ask you this, do you have any idea, you lived in the UK, why are these two UK independent party people the representatives here in the parliament of the EU? Why isn't it somebody from the Labor Party? Or somebody from the Conservative Party? Or somebody from the Tories? I mean, why are these guys, both of them, the Independent Party, which is an offshoot, they're a very minor party. Whoa, that's not true. They're the number two party. I think they could sweep the elections. But they were the number two party when they were picked to do this job. True.

2:24:59 I don't know how this works. I really don't have an answer. You're asking me EU questions, which I don't really have answers to. But I also never really paid that much attention to how it works in the UK. I mean, it's kind of a... I'd like to find out. Somebody, we must have a listener that knows the answer that we can't get from the Wikipedia. Of course. Why is Farage and this character, what's his name? Godfrey bloom bloom. Why is fair Jim bloom? Why are these why are these two guys there in the first place? I mean, I think it's great because they sit there and they just ridicule everybody and make it make very funny speech I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure there are elections local elections to vote in members of European Parliament and It's not written. You know, I think it's pretty easy to

2:25:53 to manipulate that because not a lot of people really know about it. Or possibly this explanation, they're the only guys who ran because nobody wants this job, although it seems like a cushy job to be. Yeah. I don't know. Unfortunately, I really don't have the answer. We'll have to look into this. We have a lot of things to look into. There is a lot of work to be done for sure. For sure. Caught a little funny thing on CNN Brooke Baldwin and Jake Tapper. Now when I look at these two, I thought Jake Tapper had like he had some pull over there. Like he was kind of the guy. Because you know he was all big ABC and you know kind of happening. But they treat him like crap over there. Brooke Baldwin who to me she's like what is she? She's just you know a news model. Listen to this cock up on the air. So apparently the CNN is not even live anymore.

2:26:51 And somehow they aired the unedited tape where they picked up the segment and did it over again. But listen to how Brooke talks to Tapper. Well, according to Mike Duffy and Nancy Gibbs' book, The First President's Club, or rather just The President's Club, the two men, Ford and Carter, bonded a lot on that 1981 trip about a few things they had in common. They hated fundraising and they were still having to fundraise because they were raising money for their... Hang on, hang on, Dapper. Sorry, let me cut you off. I want you to... I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.

2:27:31 Let's begin with the Air Force one. Did you see pool notes for this particular trip? Yes, yes, with the current. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, let's begin with that and then I will ask you a follow and we'll talk about Anwar Sadat's funeral. What? Yeah, she didn't cut that out. That was all notes. Yeah. It should have been off the air. Yeah, no, that's how it aired and then he starts over. Here it comes. Okay. Okay. And Jay joins me now to talk about these presidential journeys. Isn't that great? That is incompetence. That's unbelievable. It's not like that doesn't happen, like that's how it happens. That's how television is made. That's the sausage right there. That's the way it works, but that's not what you put on the air. I know. Well, apparently the editors at CNN don't watch CNN either. Whatever, just put it out. It's fine. But the way she's like, hey, Tapper, I'll do this. I'll do this, you do that. Kind of interesting, isn't it?

2:28:27 I think it's the same woman that's that and I do I don't have the clip with me I may have I'll dig it up for Sunday who called Raul Castro uh the son of Fidel Castro. No. Yeah there was a report with it first there's the Latino correspondent and she's talking to him and I think it's the same woman and she says well what what about Raul's dad? Oh No, what would you do? The guy never corrects her. This Latino guy. He doesn't say anything. He doesn't know. What Fidel, old dad Fidel would do for Raul, the kid. It was like, wow. They've got no idea. They have no idea, John. It's just, it's moronic. Tomorrow will be December 14th. Tomorrow will be the one year anniversary of Sandy Hook. Of course, Sandy Hook,

2:29:20 is very interesting. This is the Newtown Massacre. And by the way, the theme whenever you say Sandy Hook, you have to say, which killed 21st graders and six educators. That's the way you say it. That is the official talking point. 21st graders and six educators. And a partridge in a pear tree. Here's a couple reports. And of course, the first thing we said when we analyzed this is, this is going to be a war on crazy. It's not even... so the war on guns is obvious. And I have a clip from the smart gun laws, mothers against guns, which is all about getting women of America to never ever vote for the Republican Party ever again. We have pretty much proven that throughout the past year on this show.

2:30:10 But now we're moving towards the war on crazy. It is now a fact, even though we have no, uh, we really don't have any evidence other than hearsay. We don't even know what psychotropics, if at all, but I believe he was of course taking them. Adam Lanza was taking, if he even did any of this. We know he had blacked out windows in his room. But the idea now is to talk about mental health care and you know these people are crazy and you can't have access to guns if you're crazy and where this will result and this will happen before this podcast is taken off the air which eventually we will get taken off the air.

2:30:49 It will result in, well, you know, you have mental health issues, you shouldn't be around children, yeah, you really shouldn't have a driver's license. You watch, this is where it's going. Well, not only that, they also have the sexual list where the guy pees in the park, he's on the sex offenders list. Sex offenders, yes. Every town will have them of all the sex offenders and all the... And the crazies. And the crazies. Yeah. So here is CBS and the Vice President Joe Biden has put a stake in the ground in this. And of course, this is all centering around the December 14th date, which is tomorrow. And of course, Newtown wants

2:31:26 Peace they're all over Washington. They're all in the news everyone's but that we don't we don't want anyone showing up Please this afternoon families of some of the victims will be at the White House meeting with Vice President Biden this morning a White House official confirms that Biden will announce 100 million dollars in new funding for mental health services by the way this 100 million dollars comes from the Affordable Care Act Interestingly enough and the Department of Agriculture I'm not quite sure where that money is from but that's where the money is coming from. And in Newtown there will be no official ceremony for the 26 students and staff killed in the attack. Local officials are taking the unusual step of asking the public and the press to please stay away. Have we ever had this in this

2:32:09 This seems a little unprecedented to me, John. Yeah, they always have a memorial. Because 9-11, no one is saying, go away. We don't, you know, we know it's like, please come so we can remember, memorialize never again. Everywhere that I can recall, even, how about, What was the other big school shoot? Columbine. Yeah, don't they memorialize that every year? They didn't tear the school down. Yeah, why is that? Did you see the pictures that were floating around the internet of supposedly the crime scene pictures from San Diego? Those are the same pictures that we put in our show notes of the compressed PDF document which has nothing. It shows a blown out window at the front of the school and nothing.

2:32:55 Yeah, and then you know examples. There's the blown-out window. Yeah, oh, there's a bullet hole somewhere Which I think was from the blown-out window. That's it. That's all there was Nothing and then examples of doorknobs not even the real doorknobs. No, it's it's crazy This is so counterintuitive and we have to buy into this all of a sudden So remember we have we don't want the tapes played the tapes the recordings And of course we played on our show and it turns out they're boring. I That's why. There's nothing to it. You don't really get freaked out by listening to it. We don't want anyone talking, you know, don't go there.

2:33:31 Yet, everyone is in Washington talking and raising money and we'll get into that in a second. Elaine Cajano is with us. Elaine, good morning. Good morning. Newtown's leaders say the community is still very much dealing with the aftermath of those horrific events last year. They want the general public to give them a little breathing room in order to mourn, reflect on the past year, and remember the lives lost on that day. One by one, victims' families spoke about how they will commemorate the anniversary. We will be lighting a candle on behalf of Jesse McCord Lewis. We will be lighting a candle in honor of our beautiful girl, Grace. We'll be lighting a candle for our beautiful daughter, Anna. We will light a candle for my mom, Dawn Huxbron. The families also unveiled a new website, mysandyhookfamily.org. Now, this is an issue. There are so many

2:34:22 Nonprofits for Sandy Hook. And here's yet another one if you go to mysandyhookfamily.org It promotes my Sandy Hook family fund, the Sandy Hook ground project. None of these have a Form 990 entry anywhere, which is possible because they're only a year old. But there's lobbying groups, there's gotta be... there's Where Angels Play, there's gotta be a hundred different of these organizations. What is going on with this? I don't know, but play, I think it's jump to the chase and play the dementia clip.

2:35:03 The first group of eight dementia summit will be held in London on Wednesday. Health ministers and researchers will discuss global action to deal with the rapid increase in dementia cases. The summit will also bring together officials from the World Health Organization and pharmaceutical companies. British Prime Minister David Cameron requested the meeting. Yeah, yeah, this is not good. The war on crazy? Here's NBC with a similar report. When Jeremy Richman and his wife lost their daughter Avielle, the two scientists started a foundation. Another foundation. This is the Avielle Foundation.

2:35:45 Reducing violence in our communities through brain health initiatives. Dedicated to brain research. For decades critics have claimed a huge gap between the number of Americans who need mental health care and access to that care. During the recession, state budgets were slashed by the billions. But since last year's tragedy at Newtown, at least 37 states have increased spending on mental health programs. Today, the federal government stepped up too, with Vice President Biden announcing $100 million to help community health centers across the country establish or expand behavioral health services and to improve mental health access in rural areas. Sounds like a bonanza to me, John.

2:36:25 Well, they can't start manufacturing in this country anymore, so let's just start all these foundations. It's really getting out of control. This is a very important first step. We still have a long way to go. It's a drop in the ocean, but it's progress. A report released two weeks ago concluded Newtown shooter Adam Lanza had significant mental health issues. He refused treatment. What contribution? That's not true. That is patently not true according to the report. There was no refusal. There was none. I want to know how to handle that. So many Newtown families have told me they hope this is just the beginning. Politically, mental health care may be easier to change than gun laws, but they'd also like to see change there too. Despite all the calls for change after Newtown, it's worth noting there have been 16 more school shootings since then, Brian. Do they really think they're going to get away with this? What the deal is, it's so obvious because you mentioned the gun thing at the end, is let's everybody's nuts

2:37:40 So nobody should be buying guns. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. I have a clip from this woman Robin I forget her last name She's from the smart gun that law center to prevent gun violence. I'm sorry. I And and and she's saying things and this is a very interesting the website actually if you look at it smart gun laws org now This is the outfit that is doing both there. They kind of started out. They really don't want and and again no form 990 they've been around for many years unless they're part of the Brady Center to prevent gun violence, which they specifically don't say they they are not the same and

2:38:22 I can't find any of their financials, which is troubling because they have been around for several years according to their website. Now she is all over getting women to not vote Republican and also the crazy stuff. Based on your report, do you think that some states are going to pass different legislation instead of waiting for Congress again where I point out this is stalled? Absolutely. I think that what you're going to see in 2014 is that similar to 2013 where our federal legislators are failing to act and to step up to protect our communities. State legislators and governors are stepping up to fill that gap. Now be careful here because when she says governors, now we're in the Governors Association which is that multi-billion dollar foundation again non-profit that funded Common Core.

2:39:10 That's where all the money goes through, you see. The money goes into the Governor's Association. They're passing laws that protect communities, that make our streets safer, that make our schools safer, and they're getting support from their communities. We know that 90% of Americans support these regulations. Yes! 90%! And, you know, somebody's needing to respond to that, and that's happening at the state level. We know. Yeah. Mark Kelly... I like that. Mark Kelly said 92% yesterday on National Treasurer. And he's building a fund, an anti-NRA lobbying fund. This is all about these people having nothing better to do than raise money. We've been absolutely so proud and thrilled with what's happened in the last year and we look forward to continuing that. A lot of people out there across this country that look at the constitutional amendment for the right to bear arms should be left up to states to have to figure out exactly what the laws mean. John, as a constitutional lawyer,

2:40:08 How does that work? I have no idea. It makes no sense. I mean it's pretty apparent with the Constitutional Amendment Bill of Rights I think is what it's called, says which is you can't, the government, the federal government cannot pass any laws that have anything to do with this. Infringe. Cannot infringe. Cannot infringe. But he's saying it's up to states. He's saying it's up to states? States can do whatever they want. Right, so this is interesting. So the tactic now... But the point is that they always could. This is not new. Right. Why are they making a big deal out of it? Like some new thing? No, I think it's because they figured out that they can get everything done through this association of governors. And Bill Gates and Buffett and all these guys pour all the money in there. Look, they changed education right under our noses with Common Core.

2:41:02 This, yeah pay attention to this. God I'm tired of this, I don't want to hear about it anymore. Crazy. Yeah, PSA, I know, I know. Okay, this does come along with, um... This is the craziest thing I've seen. And I have maybe a controversial way of looking at this, but here is a mother, I think, who is completely taking advantage of her son and turning it into a career. Mind-boggling. This is the story of my princess boy. I'm a princess boy and I love wearing dresses.

2:41:51 and I love the colors of pink and red. I'm a princess in a castle. For little Dyson, now five, this is part of his everyday play. But for his mom, Cheryl Tilla Davis, it took some getting used to. My initial reaction was to redirect, play with the truck or read certain books. When Dyson wanted to be a princess for Halloween, Cheryl initially resisted, but soon changed her mind. My older son, Kobe, said, Mom, why can't you just let him be happy? And at that moment I knew that this was more my issue. If Dakoby could be a ninja, why couldn't he be a princess? Are you understanding what's happening here? Because you're not seeing the video, obviously.

2:42:35 I think this was a while ago when this person first showed up. Yeah, it's a little boy who wants to dress. There was a, this has been an ongoing theme. We've talked about this before. There were other kids that were older that were into this. They wanted to wear it or the kid who got lit on fire in the Bay area because he wears a dress. Yeah, yeah, no, there's a little boy who wants to be a princess and that's right. But but what happens is like it you're right She's exploiting him. She's on the news. Oh, no, she's not just on the news if you go to my princess boy calm Cheryl kilo Davis killer killer Culloden this whatever have you pronounce it? She is now a consultant and you can book her for speak here booking Cheryl

2:43:25 Here you go. So she wrote a book called My Princess Boy and I guess it's selling quite well. Listen to the last minute of this because there's some experts that come in. I have a bit of an issue with what's going on here. Since then they've allowed their youngest son to explore his interest in all things dressy and sparkly. He's not contagious. He's just like any other kid. He plays checkers, he plays in the trees. He just likes to do it in a dress. Big deal. He likes pretty things. Pink is his favorite color. The experience led Cheryl to self-publish a book, My Princess Boy, which he wrote as a tool to encourage acceptance of Dyson and his dresses. A store clerk once said to me, are you really going to buy that for him? And I said, can you just read this book for 60 seconds?

2:44:15 and after she read it she apologized. Word spread, their story appeared on a local TV talk show and in People magazine. Soon a major publisher picked up My Princess Boy, which landed in bookstores across the country just before Christmas. I think it's fantastic and I think that what it tells us is that these boys, their parents and the social world is no longer the same. There is an audience for this book. And there are people who need this kind of information and this kind of help. Okay, a couple things I want to say. First, on her website myprincessboy.com, bring Cheryl to you. Cheryl is a world-renowned speaker with a lifelong mission to foster conversations about acceptance. She speaks at colleges and universities, school districts, conferences, child organizations, Fortune 500 companies, government agencies, libraries, etc., etc.

2:45:07 Cheryl speaks and facilitates workshops around the following topics parenting equality anti-bullying cultural diversity LGBTQ acceptance female empowerment gender diversity gender expression biracial it just goes on and on and on and I don't know how old this kid is now but I think I know so many parents who are like, hey man, what's wrong with my son? He wants to play with Barbies and kitchen stuff and whatever. All boys go through this. But I think to present this and put the kid on TV in his dress and I don't feel, it feels dirty what she's doing. It doesn't feel right because she's making a career out of this and it's disturbing. Am I off base? Yeah, it's totally disturbing.

2:45:57 You know, it's like, I can almost see it, like, okay, time to get on the dress now because we're gonna go on TV on the Today Show. You know, what is the point? Is it like we all need to love each other? I mean, is this how we have to understand it? How it has to be explained to us? No, it's... It's a bigger, there's something big going on. But part of it's bullying I'm sure. No, the bullying, that's why she speaks on bullying. Yeah. Because none of this can happen with bullies. Right. Bullies are like the guys who enforce the social contract. They make everybody's life miserable.

2:46:33 You know, but that's what they do. But they're now an element of society that has to be banished. So now you can have all kinds of fun without anybody telling you. I mean, we're not talking about just people that beat kids up because they think it's funny. We're talking about people that berate people. Or people that, you know, have something negative to say. I mean, bullying has been redefined to being a critic. I mean it was kind of the anti-hate laws like the one in England that we cited at the beginning of the show is essentially a anti-bullying law. So there's a lot going on here and it has mostly to do with manipulation, killing freedom of speech so you can manipulate the public for some whatever evil purposes. Yeah, well I think the whole idea is you can't talk, it would be completely incorrect to go on mainstream media and say, hey, this is out of order lady.

2:47:27 That's the thing that bothers me. It's like, you know, oh, if he wants to dress up and... Of course he can dress up if he wants in a dress, whatever. But don't force this kid to go on every single show. I mean, their media page has 20 shows they've been on to promote this book and her career. And every kid should of course be allowed to explore their sense of fashion and sexuality or whatever, but this is exploitation and I'm calling her out on it. It's exploitation. There's no other way. Well, the husband should be called out too. What do we know about him? Besides the fact that he's not doing anything.

2:48:11 Alright, we gotta wrap up because I gotta get take a shower and get to the wedding So the question I had is are you sitting there in your tuxedo ready to go or I guess not? I'm a pursuit and that's that. Okay. All right Well, would you please congratulate the the lovely couple on behalf of everyone here in the Travis Heights hideout? In and wish them mazel tov you're doing a traditional Jewish wedding. I presume no, it's a non-denominational wedding just kidding Yeah, we have to stomp on a glass. Yeah, exactly. Plus some dishes. I think that's Greek. Yeah, there's some Greek dishes around. And we'll be back on Sunday. We look forward to a report of the nuptials and all the excitement which you will give us, I hope. Oh yeah. I'll give you a blow by blow. Blow by blow. Alright. And well, hopefully we can get your rig set up again. I'll work on it.

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