Episode 511 · Thursday, 9 May 2013

Warming Up to Iceland

Congressional testimony exposes the cracks in the Benghazi narrative while Iceland defies international debt collectors and the pharmaceutical industry redefines mental health through the DSM-5.

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Whistleblower Gregory Hicks and General Martin Dempsey provided conflicting testimony during the Benghazi hearings, sparking intense debate over military response times and the true nature of the CIA annex in Libya. The proceedings revealed deep fissures in the administration's narrative regarding the 2012 attack, with new claims suggesting the site functioned as a weapons depot for Syrian rebels. These televised events serve as a backdrop for a broader investigation into political theater and the scripted nature of congressional oversight.

In Cleveland, the rescue of three women by Charles Ramsey became a viral media sensation, though the official narrative regarding Ariel Castro faces scrutiny over potential local authority involvement. Meanwhile, the FBI is accused of manufacturing domestic terror plots through the arrest of the Black Snake Militia in Minnesota, while high school student Joshua Prater faced IED charges for a home chemistry experiment. The release of the DSM-5 further complicates the national landscape, as critics argue the pharmaceutical industry is medicalizing normal behavior to expand antidepressant markets. In the tech sector, Elon Musk and SolarCity face criticism for seeking additional government stimulus despite significant previous grants, and Google Glass is dismissed as an impractical wearable for the elite.

Global tensions rise as Icelandic citizens reject the Icesave debt repayment to the UK and Netherlands, asserting sovereignty over private bank losses. Nigel Farage and UKIP capitalize on this anti-EU sentiment with significant local election gains in Britain. The program also features a detailed guide to roasting a succulent chicken and an etymological deep dive into the phrase tit in a wringer.


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CHAPTER 01 / 43 Discussion

Todd Park, Government Data Transparency and Medical Cost Discrepancies

Chief Technology Officer Todd Park promotes a new executive order making government information open and machine-readable by default. The initiative aims to increase transparency in the medical industry, where Medicare mandates for electronic record-keeping are revealing massive price discrepancies for identical procedures across different hospitals.

todd park· barack obama· medicare· medical records· data transparency

00:00 Please, can you peel me another grape? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, May 9th, 2013. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 511! This is no agenda. Dodging the distractions at the Travis Heights Hideout where the President visits today! In Austin, Tejas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And it's Garbage Day here in Northern Silicon Valley where I'm John C. Dvorak. Oh, the president's hitting Dallas? Dallas! Oh, Austin. Yeah. Sorry. I was thinking... Really? The other president. That really hurt. That was unnecessary. I was going to say Houston. Yeah, well check this out. Here's our Chief Technology Officer of the United States, Todd Park, explaining what the president's going to be doing.

01:03 The president is kicking off a middle class jobs and opportunity tour with a visit to Austin. A middle class jobs and opportunity tour. That's right. Hey, proud to be middle class. A rising, thriving middle class is key to America's economic future. Our future prosperity rests upon creating more new middle class jobs, equipping Americans with the skills to do those jobs, and ensuring that hard work leads to a decent living. Austin leads the country in manufacturing and tech job growth. The president will be visiting with local entrepreneurs who created innovative new companies that have also created a ton of new jobs in the manufacturing and technology industries. He'll also be visiting a local high school where kids are learning tech skills, real world tech skills that they'll need to compete in the job market of today and tomorrow. Like Facebook! Very, very good.

01:53 This guy got to do with it. Yeah, because it's a... It's a tech thing. Does the president have a sore throat? No, this is... All of a sudden Todd Park is in the news a lot. We've got all this tech stuff that... I think what was released today, today there was something else that was new. A new initiative for the incredible transparency that is our government. I've never seen a picture, this is funny because I was going to laughingly say that Todd Park, Park you must be Korean. Jokingly. Yeah. And then I look at his picture, he is Korean. Yes he is.

02:37 Executive order today making open and machine readable the new default for government information. Yeah, that's a big deal right now. What? Machine readable? Yeah, they want everything machine readable. Right now the big thing going on in the medical industry is that all the doctors offices around the country are being turned into electronic nightmares because they have to because the Medicare people said that you have to spite I think 2014 you have to be switched over completely to electronic record-keeping right well we're not gonna pay our any bills you send us right

03:17 And then yesterday Todd Park was giving a press conference with Spokesall Carney. I didn't get any clips from it, but what they've done is they've now released all the information in machine readable format so you can see what each procedure costs in each hospital and the discrepancies in cost are quite interesting. I'll bet. You can have $5,000 in one hospital and then two towns over it's $250,000. Seriously, that kind of difference. Yeah, no, this has been a problem for years. Yeah, the same thing with testing. There'll be one procedure, you know, usually a CAT scan or something in one operation and a big waiting list. And then another place will have machines ready to go at half the price.

CHAPTER 02 / 43 Discussion

Rick Perry, Dutch Day Proclamation in Austin

Governor Rick Perry proclaims Dutch Day in Texas, an event involving the consul general and local dignitaries in Austin. The timing of the morning ceremony is criticized for coinciding with a visit from the President of the United States, creating logistical and public relations conflicts for the organizers.

rick perry· austin· netherlands· proclamation· dutch day

04:07 Yeah, I know it's a horrible. It's a horrible. They have to standardize. It's a horrible. It's a horrible. It's a horrible. They got to standardize, I say. This is your new language. It's a horrible. Yeah, so the... I want you to talk like this. So, here's... I'm a little upset because there's like three things. First of all, we have the show on Thursdays, which is always important. I was supposed to go... I was supposed to go to meet Rick Perry today. As today, and this is so typical of I guess politicians or politics or maybe the Dutch just in general, where today is Dutch Day, which will be proclaimed by the governor of Texas. So everybody pays for their own dinner. That's right. Very good. Very good. And today is Dutch Day by gubernatorial proclamation.

05:03 And you know so the like the consul general is gonna be here and miss Mickey and I were invited does everybody get a bicycle and And I'm like okay, that's cool. You know I look forward to it, and I get to you know that was the big promise remember the guy who leaned over to me and said hey He's a cross-dresser. You know maybe you're talking about Rick Perry. I told you that story right yeah, yeah, and so I'm all excited It's a ten o'clock. I can't go at ten o'clock Who the hell does like a proclamation thing at 10 o'clock which by the way is only- At night? No, this morning. It started an hour ago. Oh, today? Yeah, which is even worse. Who does it on the day when the President of the United States is coming to Austin? The whole thing is nuts. He's gonna be here in 45 minutes. And so this is the day they choose to get some PR I guess for the Netherlands? Yeah, good work. Yeah, good work. Numbskulls. That's like, whoa.

CHAPTER 03 / 43 Discussion

Charles Ramsey, Cleveland Kidnapping Rescue and Media Viral Moments

Charles Ramsey becomes a viral sensation after helping rescue three women held captive for a decade in Cleveland, Ohio. Media coverage focuses on Ramsey's colorful interview style, specifically his comment about the "dead giveaway" of a white girl running into a black man's arms, which sparks a broader discussion on how the media handles such figures.

charles ramsey· cleveland· kidnapping· amanda berry· viral video

05:58 How do you plan that one? Anyway, if you are tuning into this program, the best podcast in the universe, fact. Congratulations, you are one of the lucky ones. Certainly if this is not your first time, maybe your second or third time around, or maybe you've been listening for hundreds of episodes. You are a- you're going to survive. You will not be kicked off the island because you are actually awake and know what's going on in the world and you are not falling for these slave distractions. It's like the telescreens, all of a sudden everything switched and... Let's- oh, we got kidnapped guys! Oh, we got a funny neighbor who's...

06:38 who talks about white, cute white girls running into black men's arms. Oh, that can't happen. Something up with that. And everyone, if I want to say something, we're going to talk a little bit about this because I actually have a couple of directions I want to go with it. But you have you know, I was thinking that this is like a distraction of the week kind of a maybe a national story. This story is, because I monitor all the networks around the world, and this is a huge story in the entire universe. Have you seen? This is top of the top of the news list in Australia. This is, you know, I monitor Facebook to see, which I need to talk about what's going on there, but I monitor to see the zeitgeist of the enslaved.

07:24 And it's like everyone is like everyone's posting about this this and the and the stupid what's the the murder trial? Whatever the girl which we seem to have avoided. I don't even know what what's going on with this Other than I see a whole bunch of people outside in the parking lot cheering when they pronounce her guilty. I'm like, what is going on? What happened to North Korea? What happened to Boston? What happened to terror? What happened to Benghazi? This girl pronounced guilty. I think, but how many times have I said we need to have executions on television. This girl has got to fry and we all want to see it.

08:07 Well, here's the way I was thinking about this. I think the way that would play out, I think this is going to happen one of these days, but specifically to just better control the public because this is the whole goal. They're going to have to fry somebody and then immediately thereafter find that they were innocent. So the whole entire bloodthirsty public has to step back and reconsider everything they're thinking. Well anyway, so it's very obvious, you're right, I mean I've seen it certainly in several European countries from my friends on Facebook. It's quite incredible how people are just enthralled by it and just go, okay this is the story now, okay I'll be over here, oh there's a story over here, I'll go over here.

09:02 What I like about the story, the current kidnapping story with the girls, and I want to play a sequence here and I have it listed in the corner. Very good. First let's start off with the clip with the guy, which I do have here, let me find it. Little girl in the black man, which is that which is the thing that got me going in this direction? Oh, it's one channel is that is that you know it came off as one channel I don't know can you flip the switch making mono you make that sound easy? Let me see me I can do this I mean no idea why I came but no I can do it I can I can monomanize this hold on a second. Where's my where's my monomanizer? I had a monomanizer in here What

09:50 Man, processor, graphics, EQ... Well that's crazy! There's no Menominizer? Okay everyone, we'll just pretend it's in two years. ...on the girls faces, I can't imagine to see the sunlight to be around... Bro, I knew something was wrong when a little pretty white girl ran into a black man's arms. Something is wrong here. Dead giveaway. Dead giveaway. Charles, thank you very much. Dead giveaway. Thank you very much for your time and... Either she's homeless or she got problems. That's the only reason why she run to a black man. Charles thank you for being there man. Charles Ramsey, neighbor, heard the screaming, took action, went and did what he needed to do. The rest is unfolding before us here on Steam. We're gonna send it back to you. Yeah, okay. So I was listening to this guy and you know it's like it's a

CHAPTER 04 / 43 Discussion

Ted Williams, The Golden Voice and Media Cycles

The career trajectory of Ted Williams, known as the "man with the golden voice," serves as a case study for the media's cycle of exploitation and abandonment. After being discovered as a homeless man and appearing on the Dr. Phil show for rehabilitation, Williams eventually finds stable work performing voiceovers for Kraft Mac and Cheese commercials.

ted williams· dr. phil· kraft mac and cheese· viral fame· rehabilitation

10:36 Something that the elites can like laugh at you know here we go I'm thinking this is like a script that I kind of remember where you take a guy like this and we're gonna see more of him and Start start by in his here's who he reminds me of and this again I think this is like a three-year cycle on this but play sequence zero Okay, hey, I'm gonna make you work for your dollar say something with that great radio voice when you're listening to nothing but the best of oldies you're listening to magic 98.9 Thank you so much. God bless you. Thank you. And we'll be back with more right after these words. Yeah, do you want to play the whole clip? Is there more to this? That's fine, but now we remember this is Kent Williams. Yeah, this is the guy who was the homeless guy. Homeless guy. So we're going to put him in, we're going to grind him into the system to appease the public at large because this is one of those

11:30 Feel good stories, but yet because he's a black man. We know he's gonna screw up in the end, but that's It's like it was just waiting for the train wreck essentially is waiting for the train So this evolves first it goes to the you start to see a little background because they like to give us a kind of a scenario so we have the mom so play sequence one this is the dipshit mom and He called me on my birthday. He didn't even know how old I was. He was telling people I'm 92. I'm not no 92, I'm 90. He lost a good job. He destroyed his family through drugs. So I prayed and prayed, but I always said, I guess my prayers wasn't strong enough. It never got through to him. And I went out there and they were talking about the man with the golden voice. I said, who is that? That's your son.

12:19 He come from a nice family and then he went poor, poor. So maybe this will build him up. Yeah, that was Ted Williams' mom. Alright, alright, alright. So then we know there's problems afoot and then next thing you know Ted Williams goes off the wagon. I think they plight him with alcohol and shoved him on the Dr. Phil show. Here's the sequence of Dr. Phil. Oh right, how I remember this. It's all coming back to me now. Yes. Yes sir. Have a seat. Yes sir. How are you? Fine, thank you sir. As well as to be expected. Tell me what you're thinking is, tell me what you want to talk about, and I'll tell you what I want to talk about. Okay, I don't want to talk about any past instances.

13:14 You know, we're put on the back burners about family issues and so forth. What I want to talk about. But we've talked about all that. Yes. You and I have been through that. And you've had some conflict since then. And I understand that. And I hate that for you. But that's part of working through all of this. I think hopefully in the future, you and your family can come together and be where you need to be. Yes, sir. But I don't want to go through all of that. What I want to talk about is a return to health for you. So this goes on with Dr. Phil getting involved and putting him up at some facility where he's going to go into rehab and all the rest of it. Of course, he quits the thing, he gives up, and then that's kind of the last we hear of him. But if you really follow his story, he actually says that he thought it was scripted.

14:04 He got taken right off the mainline track when he said stuff like this. He thought the whole thing at this rehab was scripted and he kind of dawned on him, I guess, that he was being had. And he went and kind of cured himself in some other direction. The public doesn't really never got to follow any of that. And so ironically, he ends up getting, he's finally got a job. He's working, he's actually, as far as I can tell, on the straight and level now. But the curious thing, and I think no agenda listeners would be the only ones that... can see the irony in what this guy is doing now for a living. He is doing voiceover work and he's doing it for a major United States company. All you have to do is play the last clip which is Where's He Now and you'll get the joke. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Is that really true? Is that really him? Absolutely.

15:04 Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand. There's no real conflict! Wow, yeah, no that makes total sense. He's doing the Kraft Mac and Cheese commercial. There you go. Yeah, so this guy already has received a notice from McDonald's because you know of course he was eating his McDonald's. The whole thing is so mind-boggling. It's hilarious. It's just like, wow. It's like, oh my god. And the worst thing is, John, you really should get Mimi's login or something for Facebook so you can take a look at what's going on. It's like...

CHAPTER 05 / 43 Discussion

Facebook, Social Media Psychology and the Ego Machine

Social media platforms like Facebook are characterized as "ego machines" that contribute to user depression by encouraging fake displays of happiness and constant validation seeking. The culture of "liking" posts and the rise of "YouTubers" with highly edited, jump-cut videos are analyzed as symptoms of a broader societal shift toward superficial digital interactions.

facebook· social media· psychology· ego· depression

15:48 Hmm, how do I explain it? You know, it's a serious area. Well, I look at Facebook once every two or three days And and and I can't look at it any any more often than that and I'll tell you why is it is absolutely depressing Because it's kind of like like an ego machine. Everyone is mac and cheese slave wage slave, you know just complete, you know Believe 99% of people are slaves no matter what they're not, you know, they're not awakened. They have no idea what's going on in the world and and then you look at Facebook at this timeline and it's nothing but everyone posting pictures and inspirational quotes about how great life is and how beautiful it is and it's all 100% fake if anything they're either throwing their baggage onto everybody else if possible or they're just you know trying to

16:43 Say, you know, keeping up appearances like, oh, that's so fantastic. Look at this great mac and cheese food. I took a picture of it. Look at my cat. It's so fl- look at this. This sunset is beautiful. And then this whole liking business. This, this, you know, and I talk with Mickey about this a lot, you know, this, Yeah, the business of like, you know, well I don't really want to say that it sucks but I'll click like so you feel good about me not liking you. And then the birthday thing where it's your birthday and it shows up and everyone's like, oh, happy birthday! And you take that off, no one calls you anymore. No one knows what your birthday is. No one gives a crap. The whole thing, it is...

17:23 And somehow these networks sometimes they form, you know, I guess one of the original social networks was Orcut, which was a Google invention. And I think Google purchased it maybe, I can't remember. No, no, the story behind that is they tried to buy Friendster for X amount of money and the guy said, nah, I'm going to make billions of dollars. So Google said well screw you it can't be that hard they developed Orkut like in a month. Right which became a social network for Brazilian transsexuals. Pretty much. Yeah so you know so the way networks that's actually a study all unto itself is how networks form and how people you know congeal around certain things but this Facebook

18:07 It is, you know, the worst thing a human being has really is ego and this feeding of the ego and lumping it all on. When you look at this, I don't know how people do it, I get depressed reading this because I know it's all fake, it's all a lie. Everyone's just like oh, yes, it's so wonderful. Oh amazing awesome and by the way women who say this and I see this a lot now on television and and certainly Video podcasts let me put it nicely Women who say say it like this. Oh, you're not awesome. It's not awesome. That's the way you're saying. It is not awesome. It is annoying Find a new word

18:56 Awesome, oh, it's just awesome. No, it's not awesome Doesn't that bother you? I know you hear it. I know you hear it Yeah, I hear it all the time, and I'm going I always roll my eyes But I'm always sending you clips there's so many of these shows I sent you another one this last no no didn't you ruin my day when you do this I know Because I know you when you see it I know exactly what because you were part of this the invention of this sort of thing the number of girls and young women who have their own branded daily podcast, usually daily, on YouTube. They have a Logitech camera. They're YouTubers, John. YouTubers. They're all YouTubers. They got a Logitech camera, they got their own channel on YouTube, they have millions of followers and you've never heard of these people and they're always edited the same way. It's all jump cuts and crazy crappy edits that just look like

19:51 junk to be honest about it because I guess the girls have learned how to run you know movie maker or something and they have the camera there there's just a long head and they're talking at whoever their audience is and they're always saying it's just like Facebook it's got you know a lot of dumb it's basically idiotic. And it's not just young girls with Logitech cameras. This is rampant. If you are on Facebook, do some self-evaluation. Because you you think that you're sharing something beautiful or something nice. No, you're adding to everyone's depression It is not okay. What's happening there John? Come on you've you've analyzed this. What is it? What is there's something it's very different by the way from other social networks this one specifically specifically is I think is is probably responsible for a lot of people killing themselves and

CHAPTER 06 / 43 Discussion

Self-Esteem Generation, Marketing and Entitlement Culture

Modern marketing campaigns and the education system are criticized for fostering a "self-esteem generation" where individuals feel entitled to success and happiness without effort. Slogans such as "because you're worth it" are cited as examples of how consumer culture reinforces this sense of unearned merit.

self-esteem· marketing· maybelline· entitlement· psychology

20:49 I really do. Well, I think that in the school system, which promotes this, we had a clip a couple of shows ago with a guy talking about, you know, the self-esteem generation where everybody has to be happy all the time. If you're not happy, take a drug because you should be happy. And you should be happy because you're great. You're a winner. You're a great, great, great person. You're not a loser. You're not a loser. You're great and you deserve it. You deserve it. And that thing bothers me more than commercials where you have the female Andy McDowell or somebody saying,

21:24 Go ahead and buy Maybelline because you deserve it. You don't deserve makeup. I mean, you don't deserve any of these things. And the other one is you're worth it. You're worth it. I'm worth it. People say that all the time. Oh, I'm worth it. Really? Worth what? Worth it. Yeah. Okay, here's five bucks. You're worth it. So, yeah, it's, you know, so then you kind of add to that this, the telescreen mania of, and it, I mean,

CHAPTER 07 / 43 Discussion

C-SPAN, Media Distractions and the Boston Bombing Hearings

Recent news cycles have shifted rapidly from North Korean threats to the Boston Marathon bombing and subsequent congressional hearings. These televised events are described as scripted performances designed to justify the expansion of government fusion centers and surveillance rather than providing new information to the public.

c-span· boston bombing· north korea· media distraction· fusion centers

22:00 it's just I don't know maybe I just stand back from these things and look at them like we had North Korea which you know North Korea I don't even know if it's a if it's on the planet anymore North Korea is something that fell out of the news yeah I mean remember we were like we were gonna die we're gonna bomb Austin yeah missiles going to the East Coast this would be the day by the way when the president is here so you might as well shoot him in so the missiles coming in then we had the The manhunt, the Boston bombing which threw North Korea off. Now that's completely gone, although there was this testimony. C-SPAN has become a little unusable, I'm afraid I have to say, because it's so scripted. It's just like everything's like it's all set up ahead of time. Everyone knows what they're going to do. Everybody knows their role. Yeah, they screw up, which is fun to grab that once in a while when someone goes off the rails or literally goes off script.

22:55 But it's just, it's all the same. And then we had the Boston hearing about the Boston bombing and you know, what is it? Oh well, we're gonna have more fusion centers. We need to know more. It's like, duh. There's nothing new. There's nothing exciting. Nothing fresh. We need to freshen up. We need to freshen up the programming there on C-SPAN. It's become quite the annoyance. And of course... The thing that annoys me with Durant was this, the kidnap girls found and they were of course living with some douchebags. But what got me were the press conferences that they were... and by the way they were playing because I was watching mostly Australian TV this week.

CHAPTER 08 / 43 Discussion

Ariel Castro, Cleveland Kidnapping Conspiracy Theories

Skepticism is raised regarding the official narrative of the Ariel Castro kidnapping case in Cleveland. Claims are made that the house may have operated as a brothel with the knowledge of local authorities, and that the timing of the rescue serves as a convenient distraction from political scandals such as Benghazi.

ariel castro· cleveland· kidnapping· sex trafficking· conspiracy

23:36 uh... they were playing these press conferences full cloth in australia yeah and in fact i got this one the idiot and some the and of the family comes out and holds a press conference as he gets rounds of applause and she's one of those women he says something she talks like this k and then she's gonna get it would you know i hope you guys back up a little bit k dot okay to the ms a ok it's k a so you so we've gone from right to okay okay decay When we're ready, I promise you every single one of you guys that you guys will, we will talk to you. Okay? Last but not least, I'm asking God to watch over all of us. And asking the family and the, you know, is asking is that we as a community,

24:31 Do not go retaliate against the family or the suspects of this crime. We are asking that as they have been doing their job, it might not be today when we want it, it might not be tomorrow, but they will get the job done. We need to let them do their job. Who is she to say anything? Who is this we? She has a mouse in her pocket. I do have a theory about what's going on here. I do not believe for a second, and we don't know half of the story, I do not believe for a second that these women were trapped in this house for 10 years. This was a brothel. This was a sex house operation and the cops had been there many times and they always like, oh, no one opened up so we left.

25:26 Now this is, this guy I think was running some kind of sex operation with full knowledge of authorities and don't think that this is beyond reality, this happens all the time. And the guy got, he was sacrificed, I think, probably to, you know, we did have a lot of interesting things happening. You know, clearly the president and the entire administration blatantly lied about Benghazi, at least the information they had. It is actual lying. So I can see where people were freaking out about that and had to change the conversation.

CHAPTER 09 / 43 Discussion

CNN, Fake Satellite Interviews and Media Trickery

CNN is criticized for a segment featuring Nancy Grace where two individuals appeared to be on a satellite connection despite being in the same parking lot. This incident is used to highlight long-standing practices of technical trickery in television news intended to create a false sense of distance and urgency.

cnn· nancy grace· satellite interview· media ethics· technical trickery

26:06 And why else? Why else is this all of a sudden number one piece of news? I'm sure you saw the fantastic CNN montage, I think The Atlantic did it, where you have the host with the annoying mouse-faced woman and Nancy Grace and they're pretending to be on a satellite connection, yet they're in the same parking lot. It's totally... and this is what... I've even told you I was faking satellite interviews in 1983. Well we had at Tech TV, which was run by amazing douchebags, may I say,

26:44 We had a roundtable discussion called Silicon Spin and they kept saying, I don't know, because the guy who ran the whole station, he actually liked the Chris Matthews show the most. Wow. And he wouldn't even watch our stuff. He would watch the CNBC or MSNBC all the time. So one of the executives goes, we need to change the format. So they changed the format so it was kind of like, so I was by myself now and we'd bring in, literally bring in guests. and sit them in a chair across the studio, put a camera on them and make it look like it was a satellite feed. The funny thing is, I believe that in this case they actually were running that connection through the satellite, which makes it even funnier.

27:30 That would be the way to do it, so you have this long pause. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, the person's nodding and then the person says, so what do you think, Jane? And the person's nodding like an idiot for about two seconds. Exactly, exactly. But I'm happy that that happened. I'm happy that a lot of people saw it because it really does show you the... I should remind everybody to go do the Zen TV experiment. I'll put a link in the show notes. But once or twice a year I talk about this. And when you really do the Zen TV experiment, you understand how much trickery is really going on. But anyway, so this is without doubt, John, in my mind, without doubt, this was set up immediately to distract the masses. And that's okay, sure, that's one thing. But it's frightening to see how people actually go along with the program.

CHAPTER 10 / 43 Discussion

Non-Profit Organizations, Government Funding and Disaster Relief

The proliferation of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) and non-profits is linked to a cycle of federal disaster declarations and government spending. These organizations are described as a significant employer in the U.S., often serving as a way to distribute federal funds while providing superficial community support.

ngos· non-profits· federal register· disaster relief· government spending

28:21 No, they go along and I just want to play one more little short clip which is another press conference that was run full cloth around the world Around the world around the world And this is only a piece of it, but this was a guy a press conference for soda The guy is just thanking it. This is unbelievable to me I also want to thank the Tremont West Development Corporation Safety Committee. They've been feeding and giving beverages to the Sheriff's Office officers that are on the crime site scene right now. They've been assisting them. We have the Stockyards Clark Fulden Brooklyn Center Community Development Office. We've got the Second District Community Relations. These are all

29:05 very community-based organizations that are stepping up and helping out with this obviously very complicated and very... Yeah, so... What is this? This is like a... They had like... Essentially there was a press conference podium and it was open mic night. I wish I was in the area. I would have gone up and... Hey everybody! NoAgendashow.com. I want to thank them for showing you that this is real bullcrap. I could have done 10 minutes. But this is all a part of and it and it comes back to we've got to come up We've got to really identify this and come up with it with it with a name maybe at least there's this culture of Well the NGOs non-governmental organizations, but really nonprofits and it and I think 70% of the country is employed by a nonprofit at this point and You know the and I read the Federal Register We just get you know

30:00 The president signs one after another federal disaster, federal disaster, federal disaster. Every state just keeps getting money and this money spreads out through all of these non-profit organizations and there's some one or two people running it and they're making you know a hundred, a hundred and fifty thousand dollars and they hand out you know soda, soda, sodas to the pops or whatever. It's the same thing as changing your icon on Facebook. It's all part of this, oh I feel much better now. Everyone should just have a big button on their head so people just like you. Like with a check mark and a thumbs up. Everything should just be like.

CHAPTER 11 / 43 Discussion

Washington Post, Benghazi Hearing Demographics and Chick-fil-A

The Washington Post is accused of using flawed data to characterize viewers of the Benghazi hearings as older Republicans who eat at Chick-fil-A. A closer look at the underlying Twitter demographic report suggests a more diverse audience, including significant numbers of journalists, students, and residents of blue states like California and New York.

washington post· benghazi· chick-fil-a· twitter· demographics

30:40 Because there's some Pavlovian... Like us on Facebook. Nothing bugs me more. You go to some website to see something and then this thing pops up, a piece of JavaScript throws this thing in your face saying, like us on Facebook. I gotta tell you though, as a part of this whole culture, and be honest, we are outside of what's going on here. I don't know if that's just because, well, I have my suspicions as to why that is. But people look at you, at your profile, and look at what you've liked. And I've clicked on it maybe four times. One of them, Sarah Palin. Oh my god. I get people who go like, hey man, you like Sarah Palin, man. Actually, this brings up an interesting point. So this Benghazi thing yesterday,

31:31 Which I see you have a couple of clips. I pulled a few things, but what was interesting is the Washington Post tweeted and I think someone retweeted you or somehow this showed up in the news feed. People who are watching the Benghazi hearings on C-SPAN are middle-aged and eat at Chick-fil-A. Which of course really means Republicans only care about this. I mean that's just code because the Chick-fil-A thing... Wasn't that the owner, you know, said you can't kiss in my restaurant or what an anti-gay... We don't want two men kissing here at the Chick-fil-A. Meanwhile their sales tripled. Right. So yes, well we tracked that. But the whole idea was if you're watching this Benghazi thing, you're a Republican. You're an a-hole Republican because of course all you want, you're only out to get the president and Hillary.

32:29 And so they have this demographics thing, which is where the Washington Post got it from. And this is the most unscientific piece of crap ever. But you fill in a Twitter name or a hashtag and then for, I checked, for about $200, they will run a report and send it back to you. And so they did this on 2,452 people. And obviously I didn't have the $200 to spend on no agenda. And I don't think I need to hear that we're eating mac and cheese. But the demographics are very different than the Washington Post, who should be ashamed of this deduction. I guess they looked at the report and said, oh, it's just a bunch of Republicans who are watching this.

33:17 And even the report itself is incredibly biased when it's right off the top it says this is where they got it from. People in this group are in their 50s, typically white Caucasians married with children with very high income. The group includes a notable concentration in Texas. The group has an exceptionally high concentration of members of the military, which by the way, makes a lot of sense that military people are watching. This was about a lot of it was about the military who were pissed off they couldn't go in and help. A lot of military is... They were told to stand down. And of course, if you listen to the testimony, we both of us listened to some of it. I listened to as much as I could. Let me finish the report and then I want to get into that.

33:59 So I'm looking through this report. Location, the number one location, New York. Number two location, Washington DC. Number three location, Los Angeles. Then comes Houston. So what are you talking about? And then there's on Twitter, these people tweet more than average yet have relatively few followers. Accounts followed significantly more than Twitter averages include, so they're not giving you everything, but they're saying, oh, these people follow Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin USA, Rep Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, and at Fox News. Well, let me tell you something. I don't follow a single one of those. And I'm pretty sure this is Democrats who are insane and have to read every single tweet.

34:42 Just because someone follows someone doesn't mean you endorse them. In fact, I think quite the opposite. Quite the opposite. So, 12% of people tweeting with the hashtag from California. Number one. 12%. And yet somehow it's Texas. Texas number two, but California was number one. So this whole thing is bogative. If you look at the top cities, California, New York State, Pennsylvania, DC, Los Angeles, Boston, San Diego, Chicago, Philadelphia, and Austin. And on the red side, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Houston, Atlanta, and Dallas. So there was even more blue cities. The whole thing, it's like, wow! Can you make it any more obvious that you don't want anyone looking at this stuff? Oh, the median income, $62,000.

35:38 And the jobs these people have, let's see, 10% the top occupation, senior managers, 9.7% military, 8.3% authors, writers, 8.1% students, oh and then finally at 7.6% journalists, yeah, who would expect journalists to be at the top watching that? Then a little bit further down something I've always said with the 0.5 percent 0.4 percent perspectively pilots and DJs one after another and Indeed the number one place these people eat is Chick-fil-a and then yeah, but it's like followed by McDonald's Starbucks Papa John's, etc That's America my friends America eats at poop. So this but so just this the propaganda

CHAPTER 12 / 43 Discussion

Carolyn Maloney, Elijah Cummings and Benghazi Hearing Conduct

Democratic representatives Carolyn Maloney and Elijah Cummings are criticized for their conduct during the Benghazi hearings. Maloney is noted for using her time to defend Hillary Clinton and attack Chairman Darrell Issa rather than questioning the whistleblowers, while Cummings is accused of attempting to intimidate the witnesses.

carolyn maloney· elijah cummings· benghazi· darrell issa· whistleblowers

36:33 Well, they definitely did not want anyone watching this so they did everything they could. They, whoever they are, whoever's behind it, obviously the Democrat party to be honest about it. Well, Washington Post is skewed. I mean, there's no secret there. We know who they're... And if you listen to the Benghazi hearings, it was ludicrous. They had some whistleblowers up there and the Democrats refused to ask any questions at all and they just went on and on about how Dempsey said this and the worst douchebag of course is this Elijah Cummings. And he's the ranking member, he's the head honcho. Right, he's horrible. The guy is a corrupt creep, he's a creep. But worse is Carolyn Maloney.

37:16 this this Hillary wannabe who instead of having the opportunity to ask one single question she goes on a tirade against the chairman. I have a clip here, I have the whole tirade if you want to listen to it. It's amazing to me that somebody like this is even ever elected and she isn't the representative from Manhattan. uh... and which flow and that case congresswoman from new york yeah if you go for all individuals to the extent that our witnesses can stay on we we will try to have a second round but maybe i should just point out while your telescreens were filled with images of

37:52 kind of sexy chicks who kill guys and dudes who eat McDonald's and think that it's really suspicious that white girls run into black men's arms. This was what was really going on. I don't think you saw a lot of this on your news program. The ranking member and I both realized that we're a little behind schedule and I take blame for it, but we're going to try and move within five minutes of questioning whenever possible. The gentlelady from New York, Ms. Maloney. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is this on? I want to thank all the witnesses and thank you for your public service. My condolences to the families for your great loss. And I want to thank the American military.

38:39 My father served in World War II, my brother in Vietnam, my husband in the Navy. And I can say after close observation, there is no place or no time that the American military wouldn't be there to protect American lives if they possibly could get there. And I find it truly disturbing and very unfortunate that when Americans come under attack, The first thing some did in this country was attack Americans, attack the military, attack the president, attack the State Department, attack the former senator from the great state of New York. You know what we should do? I'll pretend I'm tying my shoelace behind her and then you push her backwards.

CHAPTER 13 / 43 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Benghazi October Surprise Theory

A theory is proposed that the Benghazi attack was a botched "October Surprise" operation intended to facilitate a heroic rescue of Ambassador Chris Stevens to aid President Obama's re-election. The plan allegedly involved a staged kidnapping that went wrong when local militants turned violent, leading to the deaths of four Americans.

hillary clinton· benghazi· chris stevens· october surprise· argo

39:32 I think maybe we should, well I want to hear a little bit more of this, but I do want to revisit our theory which I feel was pretty solid at this point. Yeah, it's looking better and better. That this was a setup, and actually now that I saw this testimony, the hearing, I feel much better about our thesis. And I think that the ambassador was in on the scheme. That's my current thinking now that I've heard everything. Let's just say the administration, or maybe in the Democratic Party, anyway, to ensure that the president would be re-elected.

40:12 The idea was to do a throwback, a callback to the Carter era, which is why we had the movie Argo as a side note, to kidnap Chris Stevens. and to have a heroic rescue right in time, October surprise, the whole thing. And so the, you know, and and the president would look, you know, genius. Truly, if you watch Argo, you can, you know, and especially if you listen to President Carter's voiceover during the credits, you really see how it all comes together. And now and Hillary was in on this.

40:49 And I'm quite sure, I'm quite certain now that the ambassador knew as well. And probably multiple people knew this. And the guys who they hired from Tunisia, because that's where they came in from, wound up not just killing, and by the way, none of this came out in testimony, which is how I know that even Hicks, he's not telling the whole truth either. Because the ambassador was dragged through the streets, they raped him with a broom handle, there's all this stuff, there's pictures, there's evidence of this. If you can take photographic evidence for what it is, but I've heard this from multiple sources.

41:26 for hours before he was in the hospital and he's pronounced dead from smoke inhalation. So there's a lot of lying going on. The only person saying anything truthful is the one guy's mom. the seal's mother, and of course who was treated like a crazy person. And of course this is just crazy talk that's coming out of my mouth, obviously. Have you noticed this meme, John? That's just crazy talk. That's crazy talk. Have you noticed it? It goes along with, awesome! Oh, you're just a conspiracy nut. Well, we've gone from conspiracy nut to, that's awesome! Crazy talk. This is crazy. You gotta get the emphasis has to be right. That's just crazy talk.

42:09 And so this went wrong, a double cross, whatever happened. That's why Hillary was so freaked out. That's why they're the thing we noticed that Hillary. Oh, it was not in control in a funny way Yeah, and and and the Navy SEAL woman Mom she was interesting because she's the one talked about the cold-blooded aspects of the when the bodies came back yeah of how both Hillary and Obama yeah, we're really cold about it and like yeah, whatever and that and and what's his name?

CHAPTER 14 / 43 Discussion

Susan Rice, Benghazi Video Narrative and CIA Talking Points

The role of Susan Rice in promoting the narrative that the Benghazi attack was a spontaneous protest against an anti-Islamic video is revisited. Critics argue that Rice was following a script provided by the administration despite evidence from officials on the ground, like Gregory Hicks, that no such protest occurred.

susan rice· benghazi· cia· talking points· jake tapper

42:47 Potato Potato Nose who's now Bill Clinton? And so yeah, so Hillary was in on it because it was her guy and and I truly think that he knew about it too it went horribly wrong she gets Just she goes nuts over it then they have to bring in that stupid story, which is just hilarious the you know the Movie story video story which we am let me just fuck you know I'm as I listen to more of this by the way because that one does one senator keeps harping on it He keeps harping on Susan Rice. Yeah, I

43:29 I'm thinking that this thing was so well scripted and planned that Rice had her marching orders before any of it happened. Thank you, thank you. And she played, she grabbed the wrong bunch of papers and she was reading the old script. So here's a flashback to, this actually I think is part of what got Jake Tapper fired from ABC and got him his new promotion at CNN with the lead. But he was doing a different thing, Jake, let's be clear. These protests were in reaction to a video that had spread to the region. We certainly don't know. We don't know otherwise.

44:09 You know, we have no information to suggest that it was a pre-planned attack. The unrest we've seen around the region has been in reaction to a video that Muslims, many Muslims find offensive. And while the violence... It seems even funnier now in hindsight, doesn't it? Oh yeah, it's hilarious. It was just a mistake Ms. Rice made. She was given some orders. It was the CIA's fault. It was the best information we had at the time where we know that, you know, according to this testimony, that the State Department and certainly Hillary Clinton knew. And this member when she went off in the hearing, she's like, what difference does it make this far?

44:51 four Americans dead. She is freaking out. She's very angry and I do believe that she is cold-hearted and all and you know she's a snake and doesn't sweat. I'm wondering whose idea this was because it seems to me that it wasn't Hillary's idea. No, but they promised her. She took a beating for it and that's why she was flipped out half the time and she may have been one of those people who says you know I don't think this is such a good idea. Oh don't worry about it Hillary, this will be no problem. Yeah, and they promised her a free ride in 2016. So I'm thinking it really this is the kind of stuff that the money guys do John. This is not Valerie Jarrett, although she probably was in on it. This is the money people at the party headquarters who wanted a 100% shoe-ins got away and they had multiple strategies, you know rigging the vote machines, you know, all kinds of all kinds of strategies they had they always do it and that's not

CHAPTER 15 / 43 Discussion

Gregory Hicks, Libya Annex and Arms Smuggling Claims

Testimony from Gregory Hicks reveals that he was stunned by the administration's public claims regarding the Benghazi attack. The discussion explores the possibility that the "annex" in Benghazi was actually a CIA weapons depot used to facilitate arms transfers from Libya to Syrian rebels via Turkey.

gregory hicks· libya· cia annex· turkey· syria

45:44 Both sides do this, some just do it better than the others. And I think that there's more money now among Democrats than there is among Republicans. That's just, this is fact now. It's just the really, really rich people in this country are pretty much Democrats now. I mean like wealthy, like leave your wife rich, like crazy ass. I have this one clip, Susan Rice BS, which is the, after listening to that clip that you just played, I think this clip is actually more interesting. What precisely did he say to you? He said, Greg, we're under attack. Would a highly decorated career diplomat have told you or Washington had there been a demonstration outside his facility that day? Yes, sir, he would have. Did he mention one word about a protest or a demonstration? No, sir, he did not.

46:37 So fast forward Mr. Hicks to the Sunday talk shows and Ambassador Susan Rice. She blamed this attack on a video. In fact she did it five different times. What was your reaction to that? I was stunned. My jaw dropped and I was embarrassed. Did she talk to you before she went on the five Sunday talk shows? No sir. You were the highest ranking official in Libya at the time, correct? Yes, sir. And she did not bother to have a conversation with you before she went on national television? No, sir. You know, hearing this,

47:24 So this video, here's probably how it went down. It's like, okay, we need something to blame it all on. We've got September 11th, first of all, it's a great day to do it on because that's all ideological. We can always use or fall back on this video because it wouldn't matter. Once you have a hostage situation, it doesn't matter why it happened or why it started. but somehow and it's probably because of the the weapons that they were dealing from the quote-unquote annex which are supposed to go through turkey from turkey into syria to arm the rebels which we'll get to later i'm sure that something went wrong there and that's when the whole thing just fell apart but what upsets me well no i mean i'm not really upset i could give a crap but what is um curious

48:13 Is that this is also a part of the charade if you will. There is no truth, there's a little bit of stuff coming out here and sure there was some lying but really what actually happened is not going to come out and I think these guys know John. I mean we know it, we've had, come on, we can't have the best sources in the universe. ISIS has got to know, Cummings has got to know. I'm absolutely sure they all know and I think that this is what we're watching and you kind of hinted at this earlier in the show. This is kind of a scripted, it's kind of a fake.

CHAPTER 16 / 43 Discussion

General Martin Dempsey, Military Response and Stand Down Orders

General Martin Dempsey's testimony regarding the inability to scramble fighter jets to Benghazi is challenged. While Dempsey claimed a response would take up to 20 hours, critics argue that assets in the region could have reached the site much faster, suggesting that military leaders may have been ordered to stand down.

martin dempsey· benghazi· f-16· military response· stand down

48:50 Head fit we're gonna try to see if we can bust you guys and you're gonna try to stop us So we're gonna try to bust you guys. So yeah, we got we got three whistleblowers We're gonna dare whistleblowers and then there's Elijah Cummings who's the douchebag of them all who essentially threatens the whistleblowers time and time again and he does stuff like let me play a clip Cummings is I got clip after clip of this guy because he's the most amazing of this group. Try the, let's see, Cummings, Rant, Cummings, follow up to Dempsey. Here, how can you question General Dempsey clip? Mr. X, in the interview with the committee staff, you stated, and I quote, in my personal opinion, a fast mover flying over Benghazi at some point, you know, as soon as

49:44 possible might very well have prevented some of the bad things that happened that night. Is that right? Did you say that? Yes, I did. And you further stated, and I quote, I believe if we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft for two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced, I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the annex in the morning because I believe the Libyans Record on Windows 8 much, John? Is that right? Yes, sir. At a hearing in February before the Senate Armed Services Committee... John, you can't be instant messaging with your hose when you're recording audio. Stop that. General Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,

50:41 was asked whether we could have deployed F-16s from Aviano airbase in Italy. Yes. And he explained why we could not. And these are his words. All right, we can't. We're just trying to make sure we get the complete picture here for a couple reasons. And I quote, this is a quote, for a couple of reasons. One is that in order to deploy them it requires the, this is the middle of the night now, these are not aircraft. Is this guy now all of a sudden he's an expert in warfare? And he's an expert in droning on forever. Oh yeah, no, he goes on and on. Well, let me summarize before the thing starts dinging. What is this? We gotta work on that. There's a couple of clips. I'm editing the clips and going, oh, what is this?

51:32 And you hand this to me? I'm recording it on the... yeah, so it's the... But what is... okay, but what is the ding? What is happening? What is the alert for? It was trying to make a connection to some service and it was just... it was error messages. Anyway, so yeah, and so this guy... Were you doing that with dial-up terminal? This guy goes on and on about... Do you think that Dempsey's full of crap? Are you questioning the great general? And he does this over and over and over. He says, I love these whistleblowers. This guy is a douchebag of the highest order I've ever seen. And this idea of questioning somebody and going,

52:13 So you disagree with General Dempsey when he testified before Congress and the guy says, no I don't. He says, I was told it was going to be three hours by the Defense Department liaison, which is what his answer can, luckily he's kept his answer the same. I don't know what Dempsey said. All I know is the Defense Department liaison officer said it would take three hours. Dempsey says that it wouldn't take, it would take 20 hours to fly. I can fly to South Africa from SFO. In less than that these guys can punch a hole in the sky and be there in 18 minutes Yeah, crazy. This is like this is nuts well Dempsey apparently has sold out. He's part of this Okay, so everybody's this is like a game. They're playing that is just nerve-wracking is is it possible because this I'm just shooting from the hip this kind of was flowing through my mind and

CHAPTER 17 / 43 Discussion

Military Coup Rumors, General Petraeus and Diplomatic Bribes

Speculation arises regarding a potential "Smedley Butler" style military coup brewing around the time of General Petraeus's resignation. Additionally, Representative Jackie Speier is criticized for seemingly offering whistleblower Gregory Hicks a desirable future diplomatic posting during his testimony.

david petraeus· smedley butler· military coup· jackie speier· gregory hicks

53:05 Could it because you know we had a lot of people quit get fired etc right after all this went down like you know there were stand-down orders ham everything people are out there quitting generals leaving you know quietly without big fanfare Major generals or corporals I'm not sure of all the rank but we've tracked at least six or seven have just left very very quietly and I'm thinking still there must have been some kind of Smedley Butler type military coup and Petraeus may have been part of it. There was something brewing. There was really something brewing and we may not know for another 20 years but there was a lot of stuff that went down that this this little play that they're putting on and it is I mean why else you know

53:56 So Cummings has just gotten the memo that Jack Nicholson would give. It's like, you know, speak slowly, don't bump into the furniture, you'll be good. And that's what the guy's doing. He's just wasting time. Actually, I got the best Cummings. I don't want to keep playing Cummings stuff. But there's one thing he did. Vague threats from Cummings, nutcase woman. Let me see which would... Try playing vague threats. This might be it. You, Mr. Hicks, as you, and at night, um... It just reminded me of the high cost, the high cost. Say it again. That is paid by so many of our folk in the diplomatic corps. It also reminded me of their bravery and the fact that you all go around the world in foreign places. Talk slower. Trying to make a difference. And as I listened to your testimony, I could not help

55:08 but Think about something that I said very recently about two years ago now and a eulogy for a relative I said that death is a part of life. Oh You're a genius Cummings. Yeah, it's better. Oh, I said this to myself I said self put this on your Facebook timeline death is a part of life but so often we have to find a way and

55:45 To make life a part of death. DOOSHBAAAANGS! I got one clip I want to add to this. So this Hicks guy, who of course after he questioned Susan Rice's little TV appearances was demoted from pretty much the guy running the show to a desk job And so here's Democrat... Maybe this is not the New York lady. Jackie Speier? Speer? Jackie Speer, she's from California. Okay. Basically bribing the guy. I think you deserve to have a post in a location that you desire. It's like, what? And the guy was like, he's smiling now because he's part of the scam.

56:43 So I would like to ask you, where would you like to be posted? Well, let me think. Geneva? If you continue to just play your role... Yeah. No, no. Just keep going. I think the post that you want is the Vatican. Oh, boy. Apparently all you do is party. It's all it's that's all they do anyway. Yeah, it's true, but they have better wine there. I mean Sure from time. You know there are there, but you know Chris Stevens was not in an embassy He was in a consulate which is pretty much a house right next to the annex Which was the weapons depot of the CIA all these code words are driving me nuts

CHAPTER 18 / 43 Discussion

Darrell Issa, Hillary Clinton and Scripted Political Theater

The Benghazi hearings are dismissed as scripted political theater where both Darrell Issa and Democratic members play pre-assigned roles. The lack of investigative journalism into the deeper aspects of the event is noted, with the suggestion that the true story will only be told years later in a film similar to "Argo."

darrell issa· hillary clinton· benghazi· political theater· media

57:29 Yeah, I know. They're definitely running a script on the public in case somebody does, in case one of these old white men actually does listen to C-SPAN instead of being distracted by the little girl's kidnapping for 10 years. It seems as though they're not taking any chances. And the thing was, the one thing, the Maloney piece, which you stopped before she went on about how great Hillary is, Now we can bring that back if you want. Yeah, we'll do it. That's not that important, but I'll just summarize some of it. She rips ISA a new one because ISA went on the television saying that Hillary lied. She lied. And she's trying to get her going. And Maloney goes on about apparently the document. It actually becomes very interesting. What happened was ISA noted that when they asked for more security for the

58:27 Yeah, it was denied and Hillary's signature was on the deny. Yeah, but it wasn't Hillary's signature, it was just her name. Yes, which is normal. Which is normal because they put her name on everything. And so Maloney goes off the tracks and she demands that they put in an article from the Washington Post calling Issa a liar and he's going so ordered, he doesn't care. In fact, he's so un... phased by this woman's attack on his own committee that I'm actually stunned by and I think that kind of confirms that this is all rehearsed. Yeah, and Issa is totally in on this. These people are all douchebags. This is what's so upsetting is that I see so much of the alternative media, if you can call it that, actually thinking there's something going on here.

59:11 It's all, every single bit of this is scripted, is set up, is bullcrap. I'm only interested in what will come out of it. Are they going to hang someone out? Will they hang someone out to dry? Well, they usually have to throw somebody under the bus. I don't know... But I think they've already done that with Rice. Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's going to be any extra hanging or anything. These guys clearly don't want to get... And by the way, isn't it a great story? What really happened? What a great story! There's not a single journalist or publication that will go after the real story. And by the way, you can call me. Call me people. I'll point you to, I can get you my sources. It'd be a good script. Yeah. Another project. But let's see, it would have to be done. Let's see, the script for Argo is what? How many years after the fact? 13. Yeah. So in 2026, this will make a hell of a movie. Yeah, maybe. Maybe we can do it.

CHAPTER 19 / 43 Discussion

No Agenda Peerage, Website Blacklisting and Google Gestapo

The No Agenda show introduces a new "Grand Gentleman" donation level while addressing technical issues with Dvorak.org. The site was reportedly blacklisted by Google as "infected," a move characterized as the "Google Gestapo" protecting its advertising business by suppressing independent websites.

no agenda· google· blacklisting· dvorak.org· peerage

1:00:12 Let us, by the way, in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. Oh well in the morning to you Adam Curry and in the morning to all the feet on the ground and the foots in the water and the subs in the air and the troops in the bunkers out there. Yes in the morning and also in the morning to the actors on the hill. We might as well just call it out is what they really are and all of our human resources in the chat room noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net. Our artists, special thanks to Martin JJ for providing the artwork for episode 5 1 0 our knights and dames our barons our baronets and There was actually a suggestion that came in on the wire of and you're the peerage officer for a new level The level of grand gentlemen

1:01:06 Yeah, grand gentlemen, which I think would be for a 404 would be a nice level for that So if the site is not found, you know for for the grand gentleman giving level, you know You're kind of somewhere in between everything but you're not really you're just a distinguished member of society Such as Matt cuts from Google who is a grand gentleman grand gentleman Yeah. So the Peerage office will take that under consideration and we'll get back to you. Because it is our... I like the 404 donation though, that's an interesting idea. And you're on your way to night.

1:01:42 So we had a lot of problems with Dvorak.org and many associated sites was down for many, many days. So people who could get through did step up and jumped in and helped. Or who weren't afraid, I would basically say, weren't afraid of whatever warning of thieves with bags of ones and zeros of data or reaching through your screen. And this is not unique. I think it happened to the Drudge Report as well. Yeah, and I don't think this was supposedly a an injection of WordPress blogs, and I don't know his drug I didn't know maybe it's possible that drudge is running off a wordpress. I don't think so no now This is a this is Google protecting their ad business. That's all that it is, but that's for another column You're gonna write yeah, I'll help you with that one. Well. There's a lot of screwiness about this whole episode I have to say and what still gets me is

1:02:44 is the fact that static pages were marked as infected when they weren't and stagnant pages and JPEGs that went over to your site were marked as infected which is not even a possibility. Well, you can embed stuff in a JPEG but it wasn't. It's just not. It just wasn't. And I'm still getting emails from people whose corporate firewalls are somehow tied into the Google Gestapo database. Oh yeah, in fact I got a note from the two cows people asking me about this because they have some blacklist themselves. This is the end. The internet is at its... Someday in the future all the internet is people is going to be Amazon, Google and a couple of news sites. How about porn?

CHAPTER 20 / 43 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Kuwait Contracts and Ham Radio

Individual donors are recognized for their contributions, including Sir Thomas Poolyard, who donated $1,000 following a contract in Kuwait. The conversation shifts to the importance of ham radio as a resilient communication method in an era of increasing internet censorship and corporate control.

donations· kuwait· ham radio· knighthood· baronet

1:03:36 And well the porn yeah, I wish the dot XXX thing would do a little better. Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you I'm all over I put up a new random wire antenna yesterday just to get better reach on my on the ham radio and I got an ITM back last night which is pretty funny from Pennsylvania. You got an ITM? Yeah, on the digital modes. I'm telling you this is how it's gonna be. This is this is that's gonna be the way we communicate. So you enjoy the show while you can. Yes. It's probably got five years at the most of life. We don't even have five years of life. What are you talking about? Okay, so let's thank a few people that help executive produce the show it's including Hold on something's wrong here. Hold on hold on to 2 2 2 2 2 2 sorry okay, I'm back and beginning with a instant night donation from sir Thomas pool yard and

1:04:35 thousand dollars. He says recently had a little good fortune small bonus at least enough to pay off my credit card so I immediately must donate to my friends at no agenda. Also I've recently had an unexpected contract with some additional work in Kuwait. Wow. So in all it's the karma. Use it wisely. I guess I do a baronet. So I don't know if he's on a list for that. No, but you know what? There's no list at all of titles today and I'm a little worried about... Well, that's because this came in as a separate email. It was not in the spreadsheet and I'm reading from the email. Okay. Alright. You can...

1:05:13 Trying to know he says had I known the purge was going to be added I hadn't may not have given my daughter the Dame hood back in February screw the kid We'll put him on he doesn't want a baronet because he says it sounds too feminine I actually agree with that okay another reason to donate more become a baron not a girly sounding bear All right, so he's off the list great sir Thomas Poyer. Thank you so much I LinkedIn page yeah and and and people but I should find this note someone sent me an email and said I put my Associate executive producer credit on my LinkedIn page people were contacting him and congratulating him That's congratulations, man. That's really cool I'm telling it's real This sounds like a really great project you're working on congratulations on your executive producership

1:06:22 So you can do this too? Yeah. Anyway, yeah. So, uh, Sir Pouillard is, uh, look, he's also, he's a 892 GW in Bahrain, formerly KB9YSZ. Yeah, we're going to try and do a QSO. Why are you laughing? You'll be laughing when you're sitting there with, and all you can get to is amazon.com and I'm talking to everybody. And we'll all be laughing about you, KJ6Liquid. You still have free shipping. As long as I got free shipping, I don't care. Two day shipping free.

1:07:03 Yeah, exactly look Vanderhelm came in with $600 direct deposit. It does that that completes his knighthood doesn't it yes? He says thanks for the quick response. I thought it was a night already didn't we night him a couple weeks ago No, I don't think so well. Let's put him on the list will night him today. Yes, okay, okay? He's on the list for today. He sends a couple notes in because I had to go find his direct deposits generally speaking they come in on a email. Yeah but this also came in through Europe so I'm sure it was hanging around for a while. Yeah so I had to dig it up and which is but it's a good direct deposit it's about the amount of money that makes it worthwhile if anything less than that is the chart the fees are too high and it's a hassle. Right. Anyway he is carping at me for not answering his notes

1:08:00 generally speaking. Well don't feel bad because John doesn't answer my notes either. No I do. Rarely, rarely. No. That's not true. No it's very true. I am probably one of the best at... At what? Ignoring people's email? At answering email. If I open it. If you open it? Yeah. Here's your thing. I know you too well. Your thinking is, I opened it. I might as well do something with it. But most of the time I think you just ignore. Jeff Wolfers in London 333 33 be our other third executive producer for show up for 511

CHAPTER 21 / 43 Discussion

Jeff Jarvis, Google Stock and Academic Skepticism

Media critic Jeff Jarvis is criticized for his defense of Google while allegedly holding stock in the company. His academic credentials and "experimental" teaching programs are questioned, leading to a broader discussion on the ethics of modern journalism and media commentary.

jeff jarvis· google· journalism· ethics· dr. kiki

1:08:39 Here's a few bucks to help you clean up your diseased website. I love Leo but hate that F head Jarvis too. Got a lot of interesting notes about people like Jeff Jarvis. Well it turns out that he's, so he pretends that he's some hoity-toity professor but he only has a bachelor degree and he's teaching some experimental program. And by the way he owns Google stock. That's that's a you know he discloses it, but really you're gonna defend Google while you own stock in the company Yeah, I didn't know that yeah. Yeah learn something new every day Working my way toward knighthood and eventually who knows I might be the lord of London Jsyk I'm a denier and so I give me an it's a science and an LG why till next time shut up slaves

1:09:29 Okay, so he wants a Dr. Kiki I presume? Would that be a Dr. Kiki or? Yeah, I'm thinking. Oh shoot, hold on a second. I'm... I'm... whoa. I'm woeful. Learn how to use a soundboard! I don't know what you're doing man! You suck, boy! Shut up already! Science! Yay! Do you need a Karma as well? I give him one. I might as well give him a Karma. You've got Karma. I am science! And an extra science. Greg, or Dentite Greg Birch, Black Knight Greg in Port Angeles, Washington, $300. Dear Nighthawk and Eagle Claw, thanks for your sub-meta reporting and news ninjitsu. Also your deconstructive kung fu is very powerful. Keep fighting from the fortress in the foothills, the stronghold on the straight, the castle on the coast.

CHAPTER 22 / 43 Discussion

Producer Credits, LinkedIn and Birthday Karma

Listeners are encouraged to list their "Executive Producer" credits on LinkedIn to find other members of the No Agenda community. Various donors receive "karma" for birthdays, job hunts, and personal milestones, while the hosts emphasize the importance of direct support for independent media.

linkedin· karma· donations· executive producer· birthday

1:10:25 Um, Port Angeles, Washington. Black Knight Prime Sir Greg Birch. My birthday is the 6th. And by the way, Eric DeShill is on the 18th. Yeah. Which is a ways away, but we should try to remember that. Hey, yeah, I just saw Rick Perry on television welcoming the president at Bergstrom Airport. He's not even at the event I was invited to. Was Perry supposed to be at the event? Yes! Well, he's gotta welcome the president. So that event sounds like it's gonna be a total dog. Well, it's over now, I guess. Maybe they raced them from the event to the airport. Red lights and sirens, baby. Yeah, true. Liam Hemmings in Menton, someplace or other. $250. I don't think I have a note from him. Let me see. Hemmings, H-E-M-M-I-N-G-H-E-M-I-N-G-S. If I had more time in the day, I could do this. No, just, uh... Nope, nope, nope. Nothing. Nothing?

1:11:23 But if he has something to say, send a note in, Liam. 250. Christopher O'Brien in Brighton, Massachusetts. Nuts. 22307. Hey, John and Adam, I've been listening to you guys for the past year or so, and I'm tired of feeling like a freeloading douchebag. Please accept my PayPal balance, which is a great idea, as a start to my knighthood. The quality content you provide is certainly worth this much and even more. Keep up the good work. Please de-douche me and send some karma to my family. Thank you. You've been de-douched. You've got karma.

1:11:59 Two more associate executive producers including David Dolson, Sir David Dolson actually in Houston, Texas, 20202. Some much-needed job karma for myself and girlfriend would be appreciated. I hope the Google blacklisting debacle gets solved. Love the show, David. You've got karma. And Marjorie Papachio, I think it's Papichio. Papicho. Papicho. Papicho. Papicho. Papicho. Mount Laurel, Jersey. Jersey. Jersey. 200 bucks is donations from my husband Matt.

1:12:36 Please wish him a happy birthday see and make sure he's on the list we could really use some living together karma since our jobs keep us apart during the week has been ten months Wow nice to live together again. No love the show Thank you great work Marjorie and Matt. Oh wow that sucks. That's another part of the American dream Yeah, right that mac and cheese, and yeah, all right here's some living together karma from both of you got karma Karma Wow feel bad about that anyway, that'll be our executive and associate executive producers for show 511 hope that everybody notices we can go back to the VORAC org slash na or the new Exact mirror that is at donate curry calm. Yeah, just in case and you should also make donation that curry calm a cake in case people get confused with the same thing okay, and

1:13:29 Not like Dvorak by itself is not confusing. No, I agree, but I was when I was writing the newsletter Yeah, which I hope everybody opened and read because we had some good stuff in there When I was writing the newsletter I you put it on a shin-and-curry Okay, it seems it sends to me and then I saw donate. Okay. Okay. No, I'll fix that up. But meanwhile, you know, we have invested almost six years of mind control programming in Dvorak org Slash and a so I want to make sure that you go there and put this on your LinkedIn Thank you very much to our executive producers and associate executive producers It's really try it out put it on your LinkedIn See what kind of response you get you may you might even get a gig out of it who the hell knows? Oh

CHAPTER 23 / 43 Discussion

Black Snake Militia, FBI Entrapment and Domestic Terror Plots

The FBI is accused of manufacturing domestic terror plots to maintain a "six-week cycle" of arrests. The case of Buford Rogers and the "Black Snake Militia" in Minnesota is highlighted, where a man in a mobile home was arrested for possessing alleged pipe bombs and an AK-47, which his family claims are bogus charges.

fbi· black snake militia· buford rogers· domestic terrorism· entrapment

1:14:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the way to find out is by doing it It's a no agenda producers are hiding in the craziest places and of course everybody out there you need to help us Now we had discussed the six-week FBI cycle and Something interesting happened as it popped up that

1:14:55 six weeks after the three-week interruption, which is really only three weeks after the lighting of the of the fireworks in Boston and this was in Minnesota where it's it's gotten so sad now, maybe there's just a different a Different division in Minnesota. It's gotten so sad. They're they are going to old geezers in trailers and arresting him And Diane Sawyer had the story of course, so you know when it's on ABC you know it's fake. Or at least it's their compromise, so they'll just propagate whatever is necessary. Diane only slightly drunk today. And tonight also in the news, just three weeks after the Boston bombing, the FBI says they have broken up another terror plot. A terror plot. This is a single guy in a trailer

1:15:52 with an American flag flying outside of his trailer upside down. Terror plot. And this one reportedly a man with ties to an American militia group. They say he had a cache of weapons and explosives. So who was his target? ABC senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas on that case. The FBI is describing this man as a potential domestic terrorist. Potential. Buford Rogers was arrested at his mobile home about two hours west of Minneapolis late last week after authorities allegedly fouled pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, allegedly starting fires, Romanian AKM assault rifle like the one seen here. So you have to imagine this story. They're showing a YouTube video of someone shooting an AK-47 and you know, and the guy looks all scary but it's not this guy. The guy who they arrested is toothless and this is like, it's like the one shown here.

1:16:49 The Romanian AKM assault rifle like the one seen here. With an AK-47 particularly if it's modified to automatic. This is an expert for ABC. That's the case. You can kill dozens of people in a minute or two. Thank you for that information. FBI and local police say they moved quickly against Rogers, a militia member, because he was planning attacks against local residents, possibly including government officials. You ready? You ready to hear the guy? Here he comes, the big scary militia with pipe bombs and AK-47s. His family says the charges are bogus. We have never done a violent thing like that in our life.

1:17:25 life. On his Facebook page two years ago, Rogers who says he founded the Black Snake Militia spoke of a coming war with the government. Okay now you ready? Because if I had if I could be the exact same guy if I was missing one tooth If I, just listening to what they found suspicious from two years ago on his Facebook page, I'm getting arrested tomorrow. I just need to be missing one tooth. Allegedly writing, NWO, New World Order, has taken all of your freedoms. Right to bear arms, freedom of speech. Together we can fight back. We've gotta arrest this son of a bitch.

1:18:03 No, man, this is terrible. By the way, can I interject here? Yeah, sure. They go and they find all this stuff and then they claim they found Molotov cocktails. Which is basically... You know what a Molotov cocktail is? Yeah, it's a bottle... Filled with gasoline or some other explosive or flammable... Yeah, or cleaning... With a rag stuffed in it. Yeah, cleaning fluid, essentially. Soaked in the material. So in other words, in his room there, he had bottles of gasoline with a rag which means the gasoline is evaporating into the room stinking up the place 24-7 I guess, I don't know how he sleeps in there. That would be a Molotov cocktail. This is bull crap. Yes, like his family said bogus, except they should have said bogative.

CHAPTER 24 / 43 Discussion

Joshua Prater, IED Arrest and Chemistry Set Bans

High school senior Joshua Prater was arrested after a housekeeper reportedly found an "IED" in his room and drove it to a fire station. This incident leads to a discussion on the criminalization of science experiments and the disappearance of traditional chemistry sets due to safety and security concerns.

joshua prater· ied· chemistry sets· school safety· improvised explosives

1:18:47 So if that doesn't frighten you enough, because you have to be scared, slave, how about the high school kid makes IED? Oh, that's a good one. And I would like to... Oh, this story is such bull crap. Yeah, now I want to remind everybody that we on this program showed you when they redefined IED. And everything now has to become an IED, an improvised explosive device. No longer is it a cherry bomb, which I think this was, but it has to be an IED because it sounds scary, but not if you're a housekeeper. What can relieve some parents' minds this morning is police are saying that this teenager wasn't planning out on carrying any attacks, nor was he planning on carrying any attacks at the high school, but you can... Can she speak English, this woman? Did you just hear what she said?

1:19:35 She can't even read her own script. They're planning on out and carrying attacks and carrying what? I've run into this before with these news readers. This is funny. What can relieve... Play that again from the beginning. It's very funny how she says that actually. What can relieve some parents' minds this morning is police are saying that this teenager wasn't planning out on carrying any attacks. Wasn't planning out on carrying any attacks. Oh man. Wasn't planning on... What a botch. I wish that was on the script. That's dyslexia. I could be but I bet you she's reading from the book. That's how it came out. Should medicate that woman. Nor was he planning on carrying any attacks at the high school. Nor was he planning on carrying out any attacks. It's just horrible. But you can bet that investigators were asking who

1:20:20 who might have known at this school. Parents told police that his friends taught him how to make these bombs. Here's a little more information about the teenager. His name is Joshua Prater, 18 years old and a senior at Marcos Deniza. This is a photo as he was arrested last night. At this point, police don't know what he was doing with this IED or planning to do, if anything. We do know that there was at least one device. It was found by the cleaning lady at his house She said she saw something in Prater's room that looked like a bomb and other materials to make more IEDs, took photos, then took a complete bomb in her car and brought it to the nearest fire station. Exactly. So, okay, let's just review. A housekeeper, so they have a housekeeper first of all.

1:21:09 I said, hey, what is this? It looks like a bomb. Maybe I should take a picture. You know what? I'm gonna take this bomb in my hands in my car to the police. Yeah, that's what house- that's the housekeeper way. I think there's a- the American Association of Housekeepers have all agreed that if you find a bomb in your client's house, then you need to take that in your hands to the police. They had an x-ray and inside they saw that it was indeed a valid IED or an improvised explosive device. A valid IED, which means... As opposed to an invalid IED? Which means, well, it's just like a weapon of mass destruction, which means, what was it, a quarter of an ounce of powder? That's a weapon of mass destruction, so a valid IED could be a lady finger. It was something that, you know, wasn't big, but it was big enough that it could cause some very serious injuries, if not the death of somebody. Yeah, alright.

1:22:06 Just like this gun can kill people in a matter of minutes. You know, I wonder I should put this in the bread book I wonder when at some point where this will happen at least in the school level where some kid will have a rubber band gun in class And he'll be end up being expelled but this is this is already happening with kids who have like guns that the blow bubbles are getting in trouble for that some girl I mean these are all stories. I don't even bring them up on the show. She did a science experiment on the school grounds with like baking soda and then the pop you know the top popped off and then no she was expelled. Kicked out of school. Yeah. We're doing a science experiment. This is nuts. When I was a kid we had chemistry sets you can't even buy one of these anymore. Oh man remember that when you had sodium pentothal.

1:22:58 We had a lot of potassium permanganate. You could mix it. In fact, this is still a good experiment. Can you not buy chemistry sets anymore? Chemistry sets? The ones that we used to have when I was a kid. Oh, there's the... You know, you can't do that. It's no good. The kid's going to hurt themselves. Let's take a look at the Chem 3000. This looks like the deluxe model chemistry set. Let's see what's in here, if you can actually get anything good. What is this chemistry? Why did I get like a capture? What's the name of it? I'll look it up. What is it? It's the Chem 3000 chemistry set. It's very expensive, like $300. Okay. Chemistry sets aren't cheap. No, no, but what's in it? Is there anything good in it? Here's one. You can get Chem C3000 for $229 at Fat Brain. I keep getting a capture pop-up from crap.

1:23:52 Here's it, Amazon has it, free shipping. Amazon Prime has it for $218, that's a steal. Alright, what's in it? Easy for you to say. What's in it? I'm trying to find out. My browser just went into that. Can I make meth from this lab? Let's see. It has a lot of beakers and cylinders and but where's the... it doesn't have any chemicals. My browser just went into not responding. Never mind. All I did was click on the... It's not that important. It's not that important. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. I guarantee it doesn't... it's got, you know, nothing going on. Some beakers and some, you know, Florence Flask and Erlenmeyer, you know, that kind of thing. You can probably see it helps you determine how, you know, how vinegary the wine is. Maybe you can do that. So just got an email from Mike V.

CHAPTER 25 / 43 Discussion

DSM-5, Pharmaceutical Industry and Mental Health Labels

The release of the DSM-5 is criticized as a collaboration between the pharmaceutical industry and psychiatry to "medicalize" normal human behavior. Critics argue that the majority of the manual's contributors have financial ties to drug companies, leading to the creation of new disorders to expand the market for antidepressants.

dsm-5· psychiatry· big pharma· mental health· antidepressants

1:24:43 So I've been listening for half a year, love your work. Unfortunately, I'm a student, an unpaid intern. I don't have a damn cent to send you guys. This may change in the future unless you get bagged and tagged before I work a real job. Anyway, in episode 511 I hear you saying you had sources for the real story on the October surprise Benghazi attack. I'm an aspiring journalist and I want them. Yeah. Dude, I don't want you to die before you can make a donation. A good point. Yeah. Who talk about being bagged and tagged? No, no, no. So the war on crazy is kind of coming to an interesting head. As the DSM-5 now comes out, there's not one, but there's two books. The story of Woe is the story about the DSM, and there's another book called Cracked. And there's this new story which has been going around which is actually

1:25:38 propaganda and PR for the DSM, but the way it's being tweeted is people thinking like, oh this is fantastic, the government wants to get off the DSM, they want to change to something else, but no one, it's like a, people don't read. They just see a headline and the headline is, government wants to distance itself from DSM. Actually, National Institute of Mental Health abandoning the DSM mind hacks! No, that's not what's happening. In fact, if anything, the government's getting in the business. The DSM is not a government operation. It is a complete collaboration between the pharmaceutical industry and the so-called doctors.

1:26:27 And it's a very nice relationship they've had for many, many years. And I think the government, they want to implement something called the RDOC, which is the Research Domain Criteria, which is an idea. It's nothing more than idea right now. No one is distancing themselves. If anything, the National Institute of Health is promoting DSM so you all know that there's a new version out. Nothing is... it'll take 10 years before anything is done in this research domain criteria and they're not going to do it. It's not going to do it. That's just crazy talk if you think it is.

1:27:07 Here is a nice piece from an interview on the Today program, BBC Radio 4, the author of the book Cracked, and the guy on the phone who's in this interview in this conversation is a psychologist, he's a member of the Royal Academy of Psychology. That's what's being debated and I think there's another really important issue that needs to be raised with respect to all of this and this is to do with, and it's a rather thorny area, but it's to do with the links between the pharmaceutical industry and psychiatry. Because your suspicion is that you medicalise it, give it a name, but then insurance companies pay up, particularly in the United States, and they'll pay for people to have drugs for it.

1:27:46 Well yes, I mean psychiatrists get paid more money from the pharmaceutical industry than doctors in any other medical speciality and when we look at DSM 5, of the 29 people who put that manual together, a full 21 have had strong financial ties to the industry including the chair and the vice-chair. Necratic, James? Well absolutely, absolutely. I mean let me just say... So you're agreeing with that are you? No, no, no, no, no, absolutely I want to comment on it. Let me just reiterate that DSM is an American system. A lot of the criticisms and comments that are made in the book and that are being rehearsed by Dots Davis at the moment relate to the American system. He made that rather general statement about psychiatrists have more money from drug companies than other doctors or whatever.

1:28:39 May or may not be true in the States. Absolutely is not true within the context of the UK and the National Health Service Psychiatrists are working under difficult circumstances in our National Health Service Their motivation is not to please drug companies to get payments They're doing the very best they can for patients trying to balance the right uh... treatments be they social intervention are the outcomes are the outcomes of necrotic subject to the same kinds of well controlled testing other drug absolutely yeah i mean a major a major uh... are you bored or something

1:29:19 No, I'm playing this lament this guy's saying because it's obvious that the UK system is honest and they would never stoop to something like taking extra money because they're paid so much. Well, wait 10 seconds. is the claim that psychiatric treatments don't work and this sort of thing. There's actually very good evidence that the range of psychiatric treatments that we have for psychiatric disorders are roughly the same level of effectiveness as the range of treatments for physical disorders. Let me give last word to James Davis then. James, have you got a comment?

CHAPTER 26 / 43 Discussion

Haldol Side Effects, Placebo Effects and Listener Stories

A listener shares a harrowing experience with the antipsychotic drug Haldol, describing severe physical contortions and dental damage after being injected in a hospital. This anecdote supports the argument that many psychiatric treatments rely on placebo effects or have dangerous side effects that are often downplayed.

haldol· side effects· placebo· psychiatry· listener email

1:29:55 You're onto something but maybe overcooked the conclusion. No, no, I completely disagree with Nick. Nick has received money from the industry as many senior psychiatrists in Britain have. So I disagree with him on that point. The DSM is highly influential here in Britain and I do agree that antidepressants work. I simply say, which is consistent with the research, that antidepressants work not for the reasons people believe. They largely work because of their placebo effects and not because of any chemicals in the actual pill itself. So I received a very cool email about that. Let me see where is it? Here it is. Very cool email. Hey Adam. Writes Garrett. My brother hit me in the mouth a while ago and suggested I should email you after my run-in with Haldol.

1:30:46 You brought it up again in the last episode, so I feel compelled to tell you my story. You guys are absolutely 100% right about that shit. I got really drunk on New Year's, ended up in the hospital after getting beat up by staff at a club in the back room. That's our audience, ladies and gentlemen. Right on. I don't remember any of it, but I woke up the next day in the hospital after they had injected me with Haldol. After a few hours I started getting insane side effects. My neck was contorting to the left as far as it could go, and my teeth would not stop grinding. I think I even chipped some teeth after hearing them start cracking. I kid you not. I wanted to die. It lasted days.

1:31:28 I had to call out of work for three days because of the side effects. I was also extremely dizzy for those three days and I couldn't drive I was so dizzy. Haldol should be illegal. I would not wish it upon my worst enemy. After the doctors told me they had injected me with Haldol, I proceeded to explain that they should never give that shit to anybody. I told them I knew all about the side effects from a podcast that I listened to. No agenda. Great thanks for propagating the formula. There's no agenda. Oh that shows just crazy talk. So sticking on the crazy because this is a I don't think we've spoken about the FOD which is a very very serious syndrome that is spoken about in the DSM. Very very serious John. Are you familiar with the FOD?

CHAPTER 27 / 43 Discussion

Female Orgasmic Disorder, Lauryn Hill and Conspiracy Sentencing

Singer Lauryn Hill was ordered by a judge to undergo counseling for her "conspiracy theories" regarding the music industry following a tax fraud conviction. This is discussed alongside new DSM entries like "Female Orgasmic Disorder," illustrating how the legal and medical systems are used to pathologize dissent and personal behavior.

lauryn hill· dsm· conspiracy theory· tax fraud· illuminati

1:32:21 Uh, FOD? Yeah, FOD. That means foreign object debris. No, female orgasmic disorder. Oh, this is where a woman, uh, has- No, no, you'd think. You think that she can't stop, you mean? Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Female orgasmic disorder, or FOD, is the persistent or recurrent inability of a woman to have an orgasm after adequate sexual arousal and sexual stimulation. How about you're not doing it right? According to the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, this lack of response can be primary

1:33:09 As in a woman has never had an orgasm or secondary a quiet... That would be frigid. That's the old word. Why are they changing? They are tried and true terms. Because then you can give them something. This is where we need to have the Viagra for women. Oh, I see. You need to... You can't give them something for that. Yeah, you gotta come up with a term. Let's see if there's a treatment. Okay. They actually are testing sildenafil, Viagra, on women's sexual response. Of course. Why not? It seems like... Oh, yeah. Talk therapy. Milk it. Talk therapy seems to be the way to go. Oh really? Talk therapy Talk therapy really and then Lauren Hill you know who Lauren Hill is yes You liar Lauren Hill very famous R&B so kind of more like reggae singer actually and we discussed her on the show previously she had a tax problem and

1:34:10 She's, I mean, she, Lauryn Hill is like beautiful woman, you know, just awesome song, awesome songs. Women love Lauryn Hill, by the way. So she was convicted of tax fraud and a little additional sentencing there from the judge. Grammy award-winning singer Lauryn Hill has been ordered by a judge to quote, undergo counseling because of her conspiracy theories. What was her conspiracy theory? that the music industry oppresses people with actual talent in favor of pumping out mindless crap. Yes. So you have to undergo... because she said the music industry is run by the Illuminati. Yeah. And so the judge said no, you really need to undergo... Shoot her up with Heldahl, this crazy chick. It's getting a little frightening when you say, when you just do crazy talk

1:35:09 As long as they... I'm paying my taxes on time. I'll tell you that. Because you don't want to get in trouble with the law because the minute they can get anything on you, then they bring out all the crazy stuff. Can you imagine what a treasure trove they would have on me? Oh yeah, you'd be worth a lot. To whom? To the guys who just get a kick out of it. So, Lauren Hill, this is like when they get James... They get these music people who are usually managed. It's not as though they do their taxes, but they're managed by a group of hangers-on. And they always like to catch one and make a big deal about it so they can scare the public into paying their taxes. This is very common, every year it happens to someone or other. What was the actor that they...

1:35:54 Gonna throw in jail the Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes, yeah. He was like a big... James Brown was one of them. They seem to be picking on the black folk more than usual. Yeah. I'm sure if they wanted to get some serious money they'd go over there and hit one of the venture capital guys that everyone knows or tries to get a lot of publicity. No, that won't happen. Won't happen. Of course not. And here's the president at Ohio State. We the people chose to do these things together because we know this country cannot accomplish great things if we pursue nothing greater than our own individual ambition. Unfortunately, you've grown up

CHAPTER 28 / 43 Discussion

Barack Obama, Civil Liberties and the FISA Court

President Obama's 2007 campaign promises to end illegal wiretapping and national security letters are contrasted with his administration's current policies. Critics point out that the President now defends the FISA court and mass data collection, representing a total reversal of his previous stance on civil liberties.

barack obama· fisa· wiretapping· civil liberties· national security letters

1:35:09 As long as they... I'm paying my taxes on time. I'll tell you that. Because you don't want to get in trouble with the law because the minute they can get anything on you, then they bring out all the crazy stuff. Can you imagine what a treasure trove they would have on me? Oh yeah, you'd be worth a lot. To whom? To the guys who just get a kick out of it. So, Lauren Hill, this is like when they get James... They get these music people who are usually managed. It's not as though they do their taxes, but they're managed by a group of hangers-on. And they always like to catch one and make a big deal about it so they can scare the public into paying their taxes. This is very common, every year it happens to someone or other. What was the actor that they...

1:35:54 Gonna throw in jail the Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes, yeah. He was like a big... James Brown was one of them. They seem to be picking on the black folk more than usual. Yeah. I'm sure if they wanted to get some serious money they'd go over there and hit one of the venture capital guys that everyone knows or tries to get a lot of publicity. No, that won't happen. Won't happen. Of course not. And here's the president at Ohio State. We the people chose to do these things together because we know this country cannot accomplish great things if we pursue nothing greater than our own individual ambition. Unfortunately, you've grown up

1:36:37 Hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems But enough about the no agenda show let me Some of these same both voices also do their best to gum up the works. Oh, I'm coming up They'll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner It's under my bed You should reject these voices. Reject! Reject! Reject those voices. Because what they suggest is that our... What? I said, this is a very funny speech. Brave and creative and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham. Sham! With which we can't be trusted. No!

1:37:24 Now, in fact, I'll tell you why you can't be trusted. Here is then-candidate Barack Obama, Barry Sotero, in 2007. This is just poetic. The administration also puts forward a false choice. He's talking about the Bush administration. Between the liberties we cherish and the security we provide, I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our Constitution and our freedom. That's called Facebook. That means no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens. No, we just sweep it all up, record everything. Have you noticed how many people are surprised by this news? That every conversation you make on any phone device, and I will include this on Skype, is stored.

1:38:15 What kind of quantum storage do you have to have? That's why they have to, I think they're going to build these machines in Utah and Colorado that are like, you know, they're just massive giant computers that are just doing, they're actually storage systems. That's LEMC, which is a part of the, a lot of people believe it's a CIA front. Anytime you have a three-letter company, there's usually some agency involved. And so they, this is probably NSA though, with the EMC group, and they're just throwing hard disks, piling them up. And so everything, I think there was something very creative about the idea. It goes like you would just record everything and then if you can get the

1:38:56 a warrant for a wiretap, it goes back in time. You see, I don't think that's how it's happening. I disagree with that assessment. I'm sticking to it. Okay. The way I see it happening is, you know, you're on AT&T, AT&T is storing everything. It's part of the deal. You're on Verizon, Verizon is storing everything. You know, so everyone is responsible for their own bit. I don't think they can be trusted. Well, well, I mean we can't storage and AT&T doesn't want to store anything. They just want to make money I believe it's being it's gonna be centralized and it's gonna be all done in reverse order So you get that wire tap they go after you now, it's like it's like a search warrant

1:39:38 The search warrant is searching stuff that's already been in your house. It's not doing anything in the future. I mean, in the olden days, because of the nature, you couldn't record these conversations. The wiretap would give you in the future conversations, you get the wiretap on the gangster, now you can start listening in. With rules, you know, he's not talking about, he's just talking to his daughter, we have to stop listening, which I've always found evocative. But now, it's more like a search warrant. You get to search the old conversations. So listen to... I think it's, first I think it's genius. So when you hear this, the 40 seconds left on this clip, everything the president said he would not do, he's doing. This is just proof of the upside-down nature of the world and black is white, white is black, yes is no, truth is lies. Without undermining our Constitution and our freedom.

1:40:28 That means no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens. Okay, so that's not true? No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. Wow. I mean, I have never heard him talk about national security letters since this video. I haven't either. It's never discussed. He must have gotten one. Yeah. Or he found out how cool they were. It's like, oh, he put that in the speech. These things are awesome. Awesome! No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. But if you protest anything else we're tracking you. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. That is not who we are. No. It's not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists. The FISA court works. Oh, that one hurt.

1:41:18 That one really, it works. The separation of powers works. Our constitution works. Well then don't try and mess with it then. We will again set an example for the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers and that justice is not arbitrary. This administration acts like violating civil liberties is the way to enhance our security. It is not. There are no shortcuts to protecting America. Which is exactly what he's doing. Yeah, no, he's worse than Bush This is guy this way that the left is so confused by this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Well speaking Okay, so that I'm glad you brought that up. So when it comes to Obama bots like a real a real lefty leftist as a celebrity Chevy Chase has got to be a great a prime example of

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Chevy Chase, Obama Policies and Political Confusion

Actor Chevy Chase is featured in an interview where he struggles to explain his support for President Obama despite the continued operation of Guantanamo Bay and the use of torture. The segment is used to illustrate the "short-circuited" logic of some supporters who make excuses for policies they previously opposed.

chevy chase· barack obama· guantanamo bay· torture· celebrity

1:42:10 Now Chevy Chase, for those of you who don't know, in different countries who listen to this program, he was on Saturday Night Live, very famous actor-comedian, and he's done all the National Lampoon Vacation series. Things took a turn for the worse for him. Remember when he did that talk show? Yeah, well actually the talk show which failed miserably because he's not a host. From the first show it was the worst thing ever. And a lot of people always forget that Carson had a little bit to do with burying him by making the comment that everyone picked up on, Chevy Chase couldn't ad-lib a fart after a bean dinner.

1:42:51 I had never heard that one. Yes, and that's what Carson said and that was that everyone that started paying attention And then shit chase was done. What's it like wasn't it on Fox or something? I think it was on Fox anyway, so we are change caught up with Chevy chase and I mean you listen to this and you you almost want to ask the question of uh where is it here you almost want to ask yourself listen to Chevy Chase about President Obama and his policies and tell me if this guy is drunk not drunk or just

1:43:30 confused and insane. Just one question, I was wondering if you had an opinion about Barack Obama promising to close down Gitmo but not closing it. Say again. I wonder if... It's a very simple question, right? It's a simple question. Do you have an opinion on the promise to close down Guantanamo Bay or not? Do you have an opinion about Barack Obama closing, saying he was going to close down Gitmo but not closing it? What do you think about that? You know, it's funny because what I like about Barack Obama is that He chooses his priorities as he learns more. And I think that he realized that in this given situation that recently came up, New York was not the place. And that a court martial, I mean a martial law situation was better.

1:44:26 So, you know, I mean, here's a guy who's really young, feeling his way along. I voted for him. I very much like him. But I do feel that he's a young man and that therefore he has to, in a way, feel his way along. There might have been a president who was 67 like me who already knew exactly how he felt. I don't hold it against them at all. Are you a little bit worried about American reputation for torture and holding people without charging them? No more than any other country, frankly. Because I worry about that for anybody. But you know, I hate to read that a cop just shot a kid.

1:45:11 You know what I mean? It doesn't mean I'm against the police or cops. It's just that certain people in certain positions are in that position so that they can have power. and shoot a gun, you know. So I mean I have my opinions about those things. And I, the whole concept of torture no matter where it comes from is an, is awful to me. But I'm not any more worried about it coming from us than anywhere else. I'm not there, I'm not seeing it, I just read what I can. I just read what I can. Just read what this guy is but that's this is the confused left

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Penny Pritzker, Commerce Secretary Nomination and Hyatt Boycotts

President Obama nominates billionaire Penny Pritzker for Secretary of Commerce, a move seen as a reward for her role as a major campaign bundler. Pritzker's history with the failed Superior Bank subprime lender and ongoing labor boycotts at Hyatt hotels are highlighted as controversial aspects of her background.

penny pritzker· commerce secretary· hyatt· subprime lending· chicago

1:45:55 They have no... Yeah, because they're short-circuited. Yes! Totally short-circuited and they all, they end up talking like this babbling about stuff and trying to make excuses when there is none. And it's just, yeah, it's quite funny. I don't think he was drunk. No, I know. Short-circuited is exactly what it is. We have, they're seeing all these, because people of course inherently, they know, their body tells them when things are not right. and so here's a you know did you see the the nomination to kind of slipped under the radar one of those things that you never know what happened there about president obama's nominee for commerce secretary did you see this at all did you find out you hear about this yeah I think so president today named his choice for commerce secretary penny pritzker she's a veteran of the president's council on jobs and competitiveness

1:46:48 she was also importantly and early supporter of all bombers all four senate campaign coming through with money when he was struggling she has a reported net worth of close to two billion dollars pritzker family made their fortune in the hyatt hotel chain so they've given away a fortune as well their philanthropy includes the pritzker prize for architecture and the pritzker military library in chicago so so this is a heralded as all you know it's fantastic enough of philanthropist This woman, besides getting a huge bailout with her family's S&L loan, the S&L bank, they run the Hyatt hotels, which is the worst. It's like a slave quarters for particularly Mexicans. I mean, you cannot drive down Sunset in California without seeing Mexicans boycotting the Hyatt Hotel on Sunset.

1:47:47 Because they even have the high it hurts org. They've got a boycott the height this woman is horrible and why she's been nominated as the Commerce Secretary Because she raised hundreds of millions of dollars for the president. This is it's such an obvious payoff Yes, she's a bundler and so she gets this bullcrap job. It's not even a measure even showing up She becomes a part of the administration Now here's the here's him actually in the Rose Guard just fawning all over I'm nominating penny Pritzker serve as my Secretary of Commerce and

1:48:27 Now, that's a real job, John. That's not like a bull crap ambassador thing. Secretary of Commerce. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She's not going to do it, the job. But you get to do stuff. You have power when you're a Secretary of Commerce. And they go on vacations together. Penny is one of our country's most distinguished business leaders. She's got more than 25 years of management experience in industries including real estate, finance and hospitality. Hospitality. She's built companies from the ground up. From her family's money. She knows from experience that no government... She says she built from the ground up. The Hyatt. Her program alone can take the place of a great... Hyatt was there long before her. I know, it's not true. That's why it's so funny.

1:49:13 She knows that what we can do is to give every business and every worker the best possible chance to succeed by making America a magnet for good jobs. You really need to see this HyattHertz.org. This is not the general perception of this woman, her family or the Hyatt hotels. and penny understands the justice great company strengthen the communities around them strong communities and skilled workers also help companies truck so she's been an extraordinary civic leader in our shared hometown of chicago she's served on a as a member of my jobs council job she was not working for us behind skills for america's future which is a program that brings together companies and community colleges uh... shape and prepare

1:49:58 you know skills-based training programs for workers that are slaves tied into the businesses that potentially will hire them. Did you hear that sentence? Yeah, potentially. Potentially will hire them. She also, her, which bank was the name of it? Maybe it was called, oh Superior Bank, that's what it was. Huge subprime lender, folded. Yeah she was the chairman of this bank until she was killed. And the joke is that it says here, there's a quote, I've gotten this from the wiki, from the book of knowledge, quote in the New York Times, a Pritzker family had observed, Pritzker was trapped in a deal of her uncle's making. Penny got sucked into this. This was really the legacy of Jay. So...

1:50:45 So in other words, she's like a dummy. She got sucked into something. I think that's actually pretty telling. She also co-founded the Parking Spot. What's that? The fastest growing company of off-site airport parking management. With CEO Martin Nesbitt. And she's always got a partner who really does the work. Of course. She's just the moneybags. She's worth 1.8 billion dollars. Yeah. And so this is where the short circuit happens. People are seeing this. You know, Chevy Chase too. He's like, this is really weird because, you know, like isn't the richest dude like Mitt Romney? No. No. No, look what the real wealth is. It's like Elon Musk. I'm tired of this dude too. You know how much money he has gotten from the government to build these toys?

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Elon Musk, SolarCity Stimulus and Kleiner Perkins Green Tech

Elon Musk's SolarCity is criticized for suing the government for more stimulus money after receiving nearly $100 million in grants. This is part of a broader critique of venture capital firms like Kleiner Perkins and figures like Al Gore, who are accused of losing massive amounts of investor and taxpayer money on "green tech" failures.

elon musk· solarcity· kleiner perkins· green tech· al gore

1:51:44 Yeah. 450 million for the battery car. I think he's actually suing the government now because he didn't get enough money for his... What was it? I have it in here. Did you see this? This is like... For his rocket? Yeah, here. Solar City. Okay, here it is. Umm... So SolarCity is, God knows, I guess we're all going to live on sun, energy, it's going to be great. So SolarCity got $95.5 million as a stimulus grant and now he's suing the government because he feels he should have gotten more.

1:52:23 What gall! Yeah. Well he's gonna find himself with a tit in the ringer if he keeps this kind of idea up. It's not gonna work. You don't do it that way. Did you read the article in the New York Times, I think it was yesterday, where they just took Kleiner Perkins to task? No, no, no. Tell me, tell me. Oh you should. It's a great article. For one thing, Kleiner Perkins was, because John Doar was an advisor to the president when Fisker Got like a hundred million dollars. No, no, no, no, no, 500 million. 500 million dollars of loans and now they're going broke. No, they are broke. Okay. Well just keep correcting me, Darren. Well I know this because Ray Lane, who was on our board, he left our board to do this whole Fisker deal. That's how I'm intimately knowledgeable about what happened here. So they're taking, apparently all the last funds, the last big money making fund that they did was in the mid 90s.

1:53:16 And everyone's been less and less and now they're losing money in all these funds that they put together. The way this works is, for people out there who don't know how venture capital companies work, if you have like a few million dollars, it takes actually maybe ten million dollars minimum to get in on what they call a fund. And that's where they put together a package of companies and then they sell it to the investors. And then now you own all these little companies and as they go public, it starts to disperse the money back and you get the X percentage back. It used to be like you used to get three times your money back and then it became like you got double your money. And then you got. Now it's like minus negative. Al Gore was brought in by John Doerr and Bono and they went green, they went all the green tech, green tech. In fact there's a quote in the article about John Doerr saying, green tech is going to be bigger than anything it's ever been.

1:54:05 And so now they're losing their ass on green. And you can see this coming down Broadway and this bullcrapper Al Gore apparently is always floating around the office over there with five bodyguards. No, that's not true. That's not true. He has two sheriffs. Because I've been there when he was there. So he has two sheriffs? Two sheriffs, yeah. You mean government employees? People that we pay taxes on? Sheriffs, yeah. Yeah, he's got sheriffs. I thought he had bodyguards that he would either hire or the federal government. Well, no one who was with him looked like a bodyguard, but he's got two sheriffs. One always sits outside in the front, at the front door, literally, where you can't park.

1:54:46 Of course, he's parked there. And then, so he has a driver, so maybe the driver's a bodyguard. But he has three people. Two sheriffs and his driver. He doesn't have four, he's got three. Yeah. Whatever the case is, he apparently likes to wander around with cops. I don't know. But I remember, so... He's the green guy that screwed them over. Yeah. Somewhere I did an interview with John Doar, Ray Lane. There was another guy. I did a podcast about it, and I put it out. And it was all about how the green tech, when they started the green tech fund, this must have been 2006. And it was just all about how fantastic it was going to be. Well, good luck with that. And so yeah, now did you really say tit in a ringer? Where does that expression come from? What is the etymology of the tit in a ringer? Well, the original washing machines used to have these rollers.

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Etymology of Tit in a Wringer, Vintage Washing Machines

The etymological origins of the phrase "tit in a ringer" are traced back to the manual rollers used on vintage washing machines. The explanation describes how the mechanical action of the rubber rollers could catch clothing or body parts, leading to the colorful idiom used to describe a difficult situation.

etymology· washing machines· ringer· history· slang

1:55:42 That's how you'd wring out the water. Today's washing machine, they use a high-speed spinning action. So the clothes in the washing machine get spun and spun and spun really fast and it goes on for like five minutes of spinning and the centrifugal force pushes the water through the holes and it dries the clothes. In the olden days where they didn't have a spinning basket, they had just a tub that had a things you know as things swishing back and forth to agitate the clothes there was no way of spinning the water out so you take the clothes out of these baskets and run it through the ringer which is a two rubber rollers that squeeze the water out of the clothes

1:56:20 Not that I've ever used one of these by the way, but they're fascinating to look at. They squeeze the water out of the clothes and the imagination was as the woman was bending over to put the stuff in her tit would get in the ringer and it couldn't get it out. No! Yes, that's where tit in the ringer comes from. Really? Yeah. That right there is the true value of this podcast. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda. On it. John, thank you very much. That, you have enlightened my life with that story. But that, but this is when you had, must have had kind of saggy boobs.

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Global Donations, Baby Karma and Double Nickels

A large volume of donations is processed from listeners in Canada, Australia, and the UK. Notable contributions include "baby karma" requests for expecting parents and a series of "double nickel" ($55.55) donations, while the hosts continue to thank the "guardians of reality" for supporting the show.

donations· canada· australia· karma· double nickels

1:57:11 for the different you have a few people to thank before he gets himself into trouble Paul Darling Westfield the Massachusetts nuts 100 bucks sir gear in Oslo nice always a pleasure to hear from him it's gonna be a current status now usd eight hundred the next title to be donated to his daughter will look forward to that john anderson in lafayette louisiana a hundred dollars a richard true roy i know in fulsome california uh... he makes an illusion about this some sexual act against the google urs uh... he said he said this is take that the the blackballing that happened as he says it had the same thing happened to him before his blog in

1:57:54 got canceled by the hosting account because Google would not listen to any of my complaints. Interesting. Eric Olson, Water Valley, Mississippi, $99.99. Dr. Sir Nenninger, $99.91. He liked the cooking class stuff that we do on the show. Boulder, Colorado, here's your $88.88. And then we have another one of the donations from Capital Idea Radio in Cincinnati, Ohio. 8334, I'm not reading these notes anymore, but he says, you guys are a bag of dicks.

1:58:36 5 of 12. Alright, perfect. Seven more... Seven more donations where he calls us names. Okay, I'm down with that. Can I say Jeff Marcy in Richmond Hill, Ontario, 75. You gotta read this note because this really, this was a huge compliment, I thought. When George Carlin died, I thought I'd never find the perfect dose of comedy with a wake-up poke in the eye starting listening in November and you guys are it! Wow. Take my PayPal balance and please give my wife and I some good baby karma. She's expecting in November. Jeff from Toronto. You've got karma. Thank you. I mean, I don't think we're worthy, but I really do. I mean, I guess as a fallback, if there's nothing else out there, Brian Williams, Streamwood, Illinois, 73-73. Brian Hall, Ann Arbor, Michigan, 73-73.

1:59:27 PayPal barfed on me the first time around so I'll be succinct some swazant nuff karma might be appreciated 4.5 years of radio silence and some CW karma since I'm one of those universally despised no-code extras And I like to get in the QRP CW game Well handle Moses. Hey 73 D Stay tuned stay tuned stay tuned stay tuned. I'm working on something that is very cool. T. I why uh... william we have a little have some time at the end for all of you know questions for school in pennsylvania william baggins so

2:00:14 Interesting. Michael Bowling, Santa Barbara, California. Too many dicks, not enough Richards, he says. P.S. Bowling is pronounced like the ball, which is exactly what I pronounce it. Jay Zucall, Los Angeles, California, 69-69. Charles Anderson, Sir Charles actually in Columbus, Ohio, 69-69. He's a knight, so he gives some job hunting karma. You've got karma. Naveed Khan, Jersey City, New Jersey. Naveed from Jersey City. Wow. Eric Nagel, Bunschoten, Utrecht. Bunschoten, Utrecht. Utrecht, very good. Gregory Ball in Walsen, Thain in some place. Thain in... Let me open this up. I think that's UK. Thain in where? It's in the UK, I guess. I think so.

2:01:05 Victor, Victor Greg, Sir Victor Greg to you in Decatur, Georgia 6969. He's gonna be at the L'Omier Art Show in L'Omier Garden in St. Louis for Mother's Day. The 25% discount for No Agenda fans at the insectworks.com booth. All right, we're game for that. That's a good darling Gert Downers Grove, Illinois 69 69 calling us the guardians of reality that we are Michael cow Cowl koala koala sick, maybe hold on a second koalas. I know my spreadsheet got stuck. Well jiggle it I've done punching it he's in Bellamy, New Jersey and

2:01:53 uh... and he's going to request some karma at the end. Sir Paul Vela and Milton Keynes Buckinghamshire 69-69 and V-V-Velo in Eindhoven 69-69 he says he needs a Dutch rimshot appreciation society give them all the closing of the 69-69 segment 69! 69 dudes! Okay, Adam Riednauer in Kettering, Ohio, fifth double nickels on the dime. Sam Menner, double nickels on the dime from Victoria. Actually looks like he gave two double nickels on the dime donations from Victoria, Australia. Eric Gunderson in Altoona, Wisconsin, double nickels on the dime. Martin Krupka, Jacksonville, Florida, double nickels on the dime. What is this, the double nickels on the dime day? Christy Pitts?

2:02:51 PartsUnknown double nickels on the dime. onward mr. Peabody in that shit toach come on come on you can do it that's natural that's a tosh or something was it natural tosh natural tosh natural tosh natural tosh Louisiana double nickels on a dime sir dr. Sharkey in Jackson Tennessee double nickels on the dime Eric Schmidt not the Eric Schmidt but the Eric Schmidt the good one in Frankfurt double 5150 the good one the non-evil one The non-evil one. He says, already enough bashing of Eric Schmidt. Not related to that Schmidt nor employed at Google. But I wanted to clear my name. Todd LG in KT, Texas. 5110. Thomas Kalinowski in Selden, New York. $50.50. And then we have a bunch of everyone else comes in with 50, which is including Dan Dudas in Ohio.

2:03:52 Gus Engstrom in Seattle, Washington. Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina. That came in as a check. Brian Bateman in Portland, Oregon. Alan Bean, our friend, our knight over Sir Alan Bean in Oakland. And finally Tim Chapman in Spokane, Washington. And Christopher Walker, parts unknown, I'm sorry, and Alan Alder in Rolling Hills, California. Who says no infections with ham radio. S73, W6VA. I am working on something very cool that everyone can use. You can use it with walkie-talkies. You don't even need a ham radio license. I want to thank everybody who contributed to today's show, which did make up a little... actually, I think it may have made up for... at least it made us feel better after that fiasco with our Dvorak.org and hopefully Sunday will be as good. Sunday show. Now I got a note from you from Kathy Beauchamp.

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Leonard Small, Sir Luke Wonderhelm and Benghazi Analysis

Luke Wonderhelm is officially knighted following his significant financial support of the program. The hosts reiterate that their independent, ad-free model is the only way to provide honest analysis of events like Benghazi, which they claim mainstream journalists are too afraid to cover for fear of losing access.

luke wonderhelm· knighthood· benghazi· advertising· independent media

2:04:53 Am I supposed to do something with that? Well, Kathy Beauchamp, I don't... Were we supposed to dame her? Was that the deal? And she didn't get damed? I don't know. It came in like this morning just before we started the show so I didn't get to write her back to find out... Oh, okay, so you just forwarded it to me like let Adam deal with it? Is that what you did? Uh-huh. Okay. Hi, I'd like my credit and donation to count towards Leonard Small's knighthood. Ah, my donation was made on his behalf. Donation to the best podcasting user with its only birthday wish. Aw. I love him dearly so I obliged. Aww, thinking of base. Why'd you put him on the birthday list? But when it was his birthday? I don't know, I couldn't have time to write her back. People, by the way, I want to mention to everyone that we kind of closed this off at midnight the day before Pacific Time. Yeah.

2:05:37 Because yeah, the good in the morning when we're when we're prepping for the show and this is pretty much a non-stop process. I'm I am continually Astounded dumbfounded perhaps by people who think that you know, we we get up and like oh, let's do a little show. I Don't think anybody sees it that way. Yeah, no people forget come on it. Okay, even your own family I will wager forgets how much work goes into it and Well, they probably don't think about it, but it's like now I gotta use the TV. It's 10 o'clock tonight I gotta finish up these clips and that's just my wife and that's Mimi. So what are you doing? No, actually, no, she's always say what are you doing? I'm working on clips. I gotta find some clips. I got no clips for the show. I got no clips. All right, I'll let you get back to your clips.

2:06:30 You don't need to know about my broken arm. Does he have a broken arm? No. If she keeps talking that way, she'll have one. Hey. Hey. Hey. In the morning. All right. Well, thank you all so much. It did make up for the feeling, certainly, of the Google Gestapo. Interesting how that works, that the minute you publish a column highlighting the issue, that all of a sudden, whoo, it's fixed. Yeah, no, I'll just say What everyone should become a writer I mean it's it makes you feel better Yeah, yeah, you got it. You got a beef write it up. So the only you don't sound like you're whining all the time well Yeah, so the only I think I think the only mistake that was made here was

2:07:21 You actually writing down something that I said I'm sure I influenced you incorrectly, but you never should have said Isn't that a coincidence this happens right after I say that your glass sucks. That was not smart. No, no Probably not You got to do what you got to do now I got to wear the glasses and we'll talk about it right after done with our oh wow okay, Dvorak.org slash and It's your birthday, birthday! Hey, hey, hey! I know about you! Alright, so we start off with Kathy Beauchamp who says happy birthday to Leonard Small. She loves you very much, Leonard. Also, Black Knight Greg Birch congratulated himself. He celebrated on the 6th. Marjorie Papico, Papichio, husband Matt.

2:08:11 She loves you too, dude for sure and Martin Krupka Happy birthday to his wife Dana celebrated on the 8th. Happy birthday from all of your friends here the best podcast in the universe And then we have So we're gonna just to make sure we're going to do a nighting since we I don't think we've ever nighted Luke Well, knight him. Yeah, well, okay. A scenario is double knighted. Yeah, and then he can be a girly baronet He's up he's in Finland

2:08:55 I'm allowed to say loser because I've broken bread with him. However, finally, finally we are so happy to welcome you to that exclusive club and pronounce the Sir Luke Wonderhelm, ladies and gentlemen. in a round table and thank you very much for your support of this podcast and universe. Hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, hot pants and booze, long haired heavy metal guys and scotch, wenches and beer, Ruben S. woman and rose, geishas and sake, vodka, vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, mutton and mead, and that's it. That time I read it. I'm a little tired. That time I did read the list. Thank you very much, Luke. And of course, everybody who supports the program, this is the only way we can do it. We could not give you this type of analysis. We've already discussed. No way will you hear even anyone broaching what we believe is the true story of Benghazi. Never. Not going to happen. Anyone who does that will be out of a job, will never work again, and they're deathly afraid of that. The whole system is rigged.

CHAPTER 35 / 43 Discussion

Christine Lagarde, IMF Protests and Dutch Students

IMF head Christine Lagarde faced significant disruption from students during an interview at the Free University in Amsterdam. The protesters used "mic check" tactics to challenge Lagarde, while the media is accused of muting the audio of the disruptions to protect the image of the global elite.

christine lagarde· imf· netherlands· student protest· iceland

2:09:57 Now the whole system is rigged and it's rigged for advertisers and we bring it up all the time when we find a good example. But it's ridiculous you can't do anything good if you have to sell seeds or if you have to sell Fords for that matter or anything else. So Christine Lagarde was, so we have a new king in the Netherlands, King Willem-Alexander. And so a big party and everything went well. Did he come to Texas? He may be, I don't know. So the first person who comes to visit him is Christine Lagarde, of course. Oh yeah, the money, the bag lady. The bag lady, that's right. Hey, bonjour, Vimlex, here I am. So she goes to the... I'm here to collect. Yeah, she goes to the Free University.

2:10:54 in Amsterdam and I have to say I'm very proud of our Dutch students who are just not having any of this woman and the video is very funny. I'll play a little bit of the audio. So they disrupted not once, not twice, but three times this. So they were doing an interview. The video is great. You see the setting. So it's Lagarde with that way over tanned face. Can someone please tell her that's not a good look? I mean come on it's just not a goodly you're shriveled up brown head isn't it like you there yeah it looks like a shrunken head on a stick and they have a velvet red rope in front of the stage you know to let all the slaves know that you can't cross that don't come close to the elite the woman who's true ruler of the universe and the minute she starts people go mic check mic check which is an old-school one

2:11:50 But she thinks it's funny at first. She's never heard of this before in her life. She's like, oh isn't that cute? They're like saying Madame Lagarde and she's like all excited because oh there's you know these are clearly her fans. And until she finds out that it's not, you can see her face change from when she figures it out. It's like oh this is great, oh wow yes, oh my goodness this is so wonderful. What is happening? This is what we not prepared. So now she's starting to figure it out here. This is what we not prepared. You probably can't understand. That's okay, that's fine. I like it when my fans are here. But well, it just happened. And I think the audience also want to know, did you understand what they were saying?

2:12:59 I really want to ask the audience to stop interrupting on this way. I think we have to stop to interrupt on this way. We want to have a proper chat with you. A proper conversation, a proper Q&A. We heard the audience and did you understand what they were saying? I encourage this behavior. This is very, very, very, very good. This is outstanding. Good material for us. Outstanding. Well maybe.

2:13:51 It's great. I encourage this. I really like it. It's too bad you have you can't hear what they're saying, but it doesn't matter just the disruption is very very good. I'm very very proud. I didn't see this on today's show. Oh gee. It wasn't on the NBC nightly news. You mean we can't make the elites look bad? No no it was in fact your own news had piece on it but they talked over the entire thing so you couldn't hear any of the real disruption. So no one, people are afraid because the minute you as a journalist, the minute you report on something that puts these elites in a bad light, there goes your access. You're done. It's like, write a John.

CHAPTER 36 / 43 Discussion

Google Glass, Wearables and Tech Industry Hype

The utility of Google Glass is questioned following a hands-on experience at a tech event. The device is described as an expensive "nerd toy" that offers little practical value beyond telling the time, despite the industry's heavy promotion of "wearables" as the future of computing.

google glass· wearables· tech crunch· silicon valley· gadgets

2:14:35 Maybe you should write an email and request an interview with Larry, Sergey or Eric Schmidt. What do you think? You think you're going to get an interview with them ever again in your living days? I think so, yeah. I've known them long enough I'll get an interview probably when they're retired. I did get Eric Schmidt to send me an autographed copy of his book written by the Cohen guy, that State Department person. Really? I bought it on Kindle. No, I wanted the autograph so I sent an email to him. I said I want a copy of your book autographed. And he sent it to you? And I put it, well his secretary sent it to me because it came from her. Because I mean I just want to make sure that he doesn't know that we compared him to a Nazi.

2:15:17 and Gestapo? I just want to make sure we understand. Make sure we repeat them. I'm sure he knows he probably doesn't care. Do you think? Let me think. Let's see, I'm sitting around where six billion dollars I can do whatever I want and some guys compare me to a Nazi. It is to laugh. Let me have some more bonbons. Please can you peel me another grape? 2.16 let me write that down. That was good. So you put the you were a glasshole you put the glasses on yeah, tell me how was it so we're at this Adobe event in Southern California, and there was a guy I won't mention his name because he's Scoble no no Scoble wasn't there. Thank thank goodness

2:16:03 This guy writes for TechCrunch and I don't know if he... but he has a pair of the glass... the best, the newest version which doesn't have... they don't have glasses. They go over your glasses. Oh. This one actually uses your glasses and it's like a... so I put them on and he showed me how to use them. You rub the side, you rub the side, you rub, rub, rub. Hey, can you rub the side? Oh, please rub the side, John. Rubbin', rubbin'. And so, you rub the side and every time you rub the side it changes the screen to something dumb. You know, usually rub the side. So, something like that. So, most of the time, it's got a clock. It clocks. 743.

2:16:44 And the thing that's interesting about the glasses is that the little display, which is microscopic, is crystal clear. And for some reason, since it's only just about an inch or two away from your eyeball, you can focus on it beautifully. So it's got some crazy thing going on in terms of how you can see it. But then it doesn't do anything except give you what time it is. And you have to be looking up to the right and you look like if you're talking to someone and you keep looking at these glasses, you're going to look like something's wrong with you. I have enough trouble keeping my head still. I don't see these things having any legs to be honest. And the guy kept making the excuse.

2:17:24 Saying oh no, no, they're just a nurse toy. Yeah, I know it's expensive. It's a nerd so it's a nerd so it's a nerd so it's expensive I don't I know maybe it's not the greatest thing is the nurse. I like him I like him, but there's a nurse nerds toy, and he kept saying that to me And I'm thinking she's like he's like embarrassed he owns these things you should be and I said did you pay for him? He says yeah, no, yeah, that's dumb. Yeah, it's and it's yeah, okay. Yes, it's dumb. It's totally dumb The whole thing is dumb. $1,500. If you got that kind of money to throw away on these glasses that just basically tell you what time it is, it's ludicrous. He says he wore them around New York City and they would give you directions on how to find something and it was very nice. So here's all you gotta say. When the Google Glass... So this is handy for your cocktails. You went to the party and you want to sound like a hipster.

CHAPTER 37 / 43 Discussion

School Lockdown Drills, Secret Training and Student Letters

A 16-year-old blind and autistic student shares a disturbing account of a school lockdown drill where a teacher told students they would "die" if they didn't shut up. Other parents report that children are being told to keep these drills a secret from their parents, which is criticized as a form of "slave training" and psychological manipulation.

lockdown drills· school safety· david thomas· secret· parenting

2:18:16 And you say, here's how you do it, you say, wearables is the future. Wearables. Wearables, man. It's all about the wearables. Yeah, man. The wearables. It's all about the wearables, baby. I'm telling you. Adam's gonna read his email. Adam's gonna read his email. Adam's gonna read his email on the no agenda show David writes in and says hello Adam when I was in the United States of Gitmo Nation We had a monthly lockdown when I was 11. I experienced the first one the teacher said shut up or you will die This says this person is 16 now. I just want to repeat

2:19:04 The teacher said, shut up or you will die. I then freaked out because all the kids started to run in all different directions. Me being blind and autistic, I didn't know how to respond. I just sat in my desk working on my math work on my Perkins Braille writer. This device looks and sounds like a manual typewriter with only nine keys. The teacher said nothing when the police slammed on the door. I started to cry after the lockdown. The police and teacher yelled at me, saying that I could have gotten the whole class killed! Now me... This is a blind autistic kid. So me being a NOAA Jindal listener, I asked the police what they were dressed like and what he was carrying on his belt. They said, none of your business! And I pressed on, they said, uh...

2:19:51 and said if I was sighted I would know but since I- oh, if I could see then I would know but since I was blind I deserved a description after the officer said a taser and an AK-47 I knew the school was not there to teach for our good but to re-educate us to become government robots this is uh 16 year old blind autistic no agenda producer David Thomas good work Do you believe that? The teacher says you will die. This is horrible. These teachers are useless. This is really, really horrible. By the way, he runs an Ubuntu server. He's happy to help us out. I love that. Adam says, Mike, this is, I was listening to show 508 this morning. I thought I would relay a story about lockdown drills. These are not something new. I hope you find the story entertaining at some level.

2:20:50 I first became aware of these drills five years ago when my youngest daughter was in kindergarten and my oldest daughter was in fourth grade. They were attending classes at the same school in Mercer County, New Jersey. At the dinner table one night I asked my oldest about her day. Had anything interesting happened? No, nothing was her reply. Not unexpected from a seasoned school-aged child. So then I asked my youngest the same question. Being a kindergartner she loves her school. We had a drill, she says. A fire drill? Was the alarm really loud, I asked? No, a lock-up drill. A lock-it-up drill. We had to hide. A what? The teacher told us to hide and shut the door and close the windows. We had to be very quiet. Then my older daughter interrupted, yelling, You're not supposed to tell them about that! That's a secret!

2:21:33 What do you mean? It's a secret I asked. The teachers told us that we aren't supposed to say anything about the drill. And it's a lockdown drill. For in case someone comes into the school to do something bad, we're not supposed to tell people about where we hide because they might find us. Can you believe this crap, John? These are great letters. This is slave training. said well I was floored I told them both that it was okay to tell us about that and they should tell us when they do them there's no reason for it to be a secret I contacted the school the next day spoke to the principal I was told it was something the school district had instituted the children should not be told not to talk about it that would be corrected uh-huh so these drills are nothing right these drills are nothing new. Can you believe that? Wow

2:22:24 I love it, you know, so this is a dad, I love it when they like... I would recommend to all our No Agenda producers and listeners out there to ask your kids if they've been told that there's a secret thing going on in their school just to confront them. Secret drill. And make them tell you because I'm sure that this is the only example of don't tell your parents. I bet it's happening everywhere. I bet it is. That's sick by the way. Yeah. And... Don't tell your parents. This is what perverts do. Yeah, exactly. Hey, I'm gonna feel you right here, but don't tell your parents. Oh, John, that's... That's nasty. That's what the schools are doing. Yeah. They're actually co-ocating the idea that the kids can keep a secret when they shouldn't. It is slave training and thank you very much for sharing. I ask everyone by the way if it's okay if I read their note and they all immediately say yes and thank you blind autistic slave David. Awesome. What a great note and way to go.

CHAPTER 38 / 43 Discussion

Whole Foods Chicken, Succulent Roasting Techniques

A detailed recipe for roasting a "succulent" chicken is shared, involving specific oven temperatures and a technique of resting the bird with its "ass in the air" to distribute juices. The segment serves as a follow-up to previous complaints about the quality of poultry found at Whole Foods.

whole foods· chicken recipe· roasting· cooking· succulent

2:23:23 Way to go, man. You should give a douchebag out to those cops. Yeah, big time. Don't mess with our blind slave, our blind autistic... I bet he's like, walking on his tippy toes, spinning around. Good for him. Leave him alone. Leave our slave alone. Also, I did get a very nice email. This will be the last one for this episode. From Bruce. And Bruce says, hey man, there may be some problems with whole foods, but the chicken, at least in our region, the Southern Pacific, is fine. I'm always complaining about the chicken that became the albino chicken in a pot. Yes, that's something I still have dreaming nightmares about. I know you do. What the hell's with that guy? Anyway, he gave me a recipe for cooking the chicken, and I have to say, oh my god. Oh my god. This blew me away.

2:24:16 And the first thing he said is, know your pot and your oven. You have to get that thing calibrated. Generally speaking, most ovens aren't temperature accurate. You get an oven thermometer and check it. I mean, I have a really high end oven that is very accurate. It's kind of interesting. So his advice was, now this wouldn't work with the entire meal, but here's the chicken he made me make. And I have to say, I did use a chicken from the market. So hot oven, hot pot, oven 425, hot pot, pot barely smoking, throw some oil in, you get your seasoned chicken, a little bit of butter on the outside, trust, hit the pot with oil, should smoke slightly less than it was. Too much isn't great but keep going until you're just not starting a fire. Lay the bird on its right side in the pot, put it straight in the oven with no lid, wait 20 minutes, then move the bird to the other side, wait 20 minutes, then move the bird breast side up.

2:25:15 20 more minutes then lower the heat to 375 pull the bird out check with a thermometer if it's 165 you're done if not keep going a little bit and then here I think is the big trick you have to rest the bird for 10 minutes on a plate with its ass in the air so all the juices are flowing down towards the breast this John was an outstanding product in this pot That sounds like a winner. Sounds like a lot of work. I mean, when I do pot cooking, I try to avoid doing any extra stuff. It really wasn't because it was just three times 20 minutes. I'm just flipping this bird over and the crust, the skin was just nice and crisp. The chicken was succulent to the max. I couldn't make... Succulent. Succulent. It was succulent. Oh, touch the tip.

2:26:00 So, uh, yeah. Be careful with that pot of yours though because at 500 degrees it will, uh, the enamel comes off. No, no, it was 475. Yeah. Well, it's... He said 425. I'm sorry. 425, you got a lot of leeway. Is that, that's not... The enamel? And then what happens? Enamel, that's an enamel. It's just, it's just... It's not good? Crack, like a piece of it'll pop and go flying. I mean, it's just... Oh, really? Oh, we don't want that. Adam's gonna read his email. I gotta cut that down we need a closer that's just the ending of that that someone did send me one other thing that I loved we have things if someone showed this on television news people I mean even if you heard these stories

CHAPTER 39 / 43 Discussion

ATF Bomb Threat Checklist, Bureaucratic Absurdity

A bomb threat checklist from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) is mocked for its bureaucratic absurdity. The list includes questions for the recipient to ask the caller, such as "What is address?" and categories for background noises like "crockery," highlighting the disconnect between government forms and real-world situations.

atf· bomb threat· treasury department· checklist· bureaucracy

2:26:55 And I agree, John. Ask your kids if there was some secret drill and you had to not tell your parents. We want to know about it. Make sure those kids tell you. If there's any time, any time, you should drum into their heads any time anyone tells them not to tell their parents. Immediately tell your parents. Yeah. So this is a note from one of our producers who I shall not name. And it is a checklist, a bomb threat checklist for school. But here's the crazy thing. It says, Department of the Treasury Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Bomb Threat Checklist. Is the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, is that part of the Department of the Treasury?

2:27:39 Yeah. I didn't know that. Oh yeah, that's where the revenuers are part of the treasury, guns, it's all regulated for tax purposes or something. Okay, so you're calling in a bomb threat and I'm going to run through the checklist with you. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. Hello? You're calling it in. I'm calling it in, I'm waiting for you. Hello? Hello? Yeah, yeah, I think I got a bomb here. I got a bomb. It's a suspicious thing and I think it's a bomb. I don't know what to do. When is the bomb going to explode? I have no idea. It's in a box. Where is the bomb right now? It's over by the park bench. It's on a park bench near a trash can. Right here in the park. What does the... Now you're supposed to be threatening. You're not see something, say something. Oh, I thought I was the... No, you're threatening. You're threatening. Hold on. Let's try that again. I got the wrong character.

2:28:34 Hello yeah, I planted a bomb when is the bomb going to explode the bombs? I'm not telling you, but it's at the pits at the stadium just and it's gonna go off during the big game Let me ask the questions you can't be telling me this now. What does the bomb look like? I have a checklist. What does the bomb look like I'm not telling you what will cause the bomb to explode oh? It's got a timer. Did you place the bomb? Why should I be telling you this? Why? What? Why? That's the question number seven. Why what? Six is did you place the bomb and seven is why? I told you that the bomb is there. I'm not talking to you. I just gave you the threat. What more do I have to do? And eight is what is address?

2:29:28 I'm reading verbatim. What is address? What is address? What does that even mean? What is your name? My name is Jim. Okay, and then I have an open space for the exact wording of the bomb threat which is stadium. Sex of caller was male. Race, now you sounded Chinese to me. Age, length of call, And then caller's voice. Calm, nasal, soft, angry, stutter, loud, excited, lisp, laughter, slow, rasp, crying, rapid, deep, minimal... What is this word? Distinct. I like the crying one. Background noises. What's the word? Distinct.

2:30:13 Distinct. I have a distinct voice. Bomb threat language. Well spoken. Education. Incoherent. Foul. Message read by the threat maker. Irrational or taped. A bomb. I put a bomb there. Alright, how about background noises? Street noises? Voices? Crockery. Crockery The bombshed brings bring some some I Got about office machinery booth You sound like he had a harmonica. I love that. What is address address?

2:31:04 Can you imagine if some guy calling a bomb thrower said, what is address? And they're like, what kind of English is that? It sounds like the pigeon English that you get from customer service. That's probably the guy who wrote the list. Skip logic right there. Skip logic. Yeah. So while we're congratulating human resources of the world, congratulations to Iceland. Man, this is the place to live. At the second time of asking, Iceland still hasn't warmed to the idea of paying back the... Oh, by the way, you catch the little script writer's jolly there?

CHAPTER 40 / 43 Discussion

Iceland, Icesave Debt and International Court Threats

Icelandic citizens have once again voted in a referendum to reject paying back £2.3 billion in debt to the UK and the Netherlands following the 2008 collapse of the Icesave internet bank. Despite threats of international court action, the Icelandic government maintains that its people should not be burdened with the losses of a private bank.

iceland· icesave· netherlands· uk· referendum

2:31:41 Iceland hasn't warmed? BBC, I might point out, BBC. At the second time of asking, Iceland still hasn't warmed to the idea of paying back the £2.3 billion it owes the UK since the collapse of the internet bank, Iceave. In the second referendum on a compensation deal, 60% of people voted no to paying for a private bank's losses and they'd have paid with interest for the next 30 years. So this makes total sense. This happened in 2008. We discussed it a lot at the time. So the internet bank, ISAVE, I think it was called,

2:32:23 had a lot of municipalities, but also individuals from the United Kingdom and the Netherlands who were putting their money in there and they were getting a very high rate of return, exorbitant, like these six, seven, eight, nine percent, crazy, crazy rates, certainly at that time. There is always risk, of course, when you do these things. The bank fails and then the governments of the UK and the Netherlands paid out The money, it's a couple billion, paid out to the investors who got screwed and what happens? You invest in something, you put your money somewhere in an internet bank, okay, it can happen. And now the Netherlands and the UK, they said, well, that bank failed, it was in Iceland, so hey, citizens of Iceland, you have to pay up. You have to pay us.

2:33:13 Forget the bank, the bank failed, no, we're going to put it on the whole country and the country said no before and now they're saying no again. The finance minister said there's no point asking them again. I think it's very hard to interpret this in any other way than the fact that the Icelandic people is not prepared to accept payments or shelter burden unless there is a clear legal obligation to do so. The debt dates back to 2008 when IceSave went to the wall and cash belonging to UK and Dutch savers went with it. Like the Netherlands, the UK government reimbursed people. Now it wants Iceland to pay it back.

2:34:00 Negotiating hasn't worked. Today the government said it will see Iceland in court. What court do you think? What court do you think that yeah, I think it's war. I agree. How about we'll drone your ass? What court do you go to? The International Criminal Court? I mean, give me a break. No, they don't have any courts. There's no jurisdiction. There's no standing. There's nothing they can do. They can go to maybe some bogus court in the UN. No, but why should they pay back? Screw them. It's like every time you... Where's the whole idea? If you put your money into some crazy investment, you lose it. You don't go to the next door neighbor and demand payment.

2:34:38 There's no losers, Tommy. You're not a loser. It is obviously disappointing that it seems that the people of Iceland have rejected what was a negotiated settlement. And of course we respect the will of the Icelandic... Negotiated by who? By the elites! It's like me and you negotiating a settlement and demanding money from the Bank of America. Now this is, now you're talking crazy talk. People in this matter, and we're going to have to now go and talk to the international partners with whom we work, not least the government of the Netherlands. It now looks like this process... Because they want their money as well, don't they? Of course they do. It now looks like this process will end up in the courts as a legal process going on.

CHAPTER 41 / 43 Discussion

UKIP, Nigel Farage and British Election Gains

The UK Independence Party (UKIP), led by Nigel Farage, made significant gains in recent local elections, capturing nearly a quarter of the vote in some areas. This success is attributed to a hardline stance on immigration and opposition to the European Union, forcing major political parties to reconsider their platforms.

ukip· nigel farage· immigration· local elections· britain

2:35:18 The government says it's got an obligation to chase Iceland for the 2.3 billion because we're in a difficult position too and could really use the cash. That's so funny. So there was another development that's kind of interesting was under the radar, which is the apparently the UK independent parties made some inroads and there's a little wrap up here of what happened after this recent election. Yeah, they've been doing very well. Hans Dokter speaking there in Pakistan. The Queen has delivered a speech outlining the British government's program for the next year. It includes a new crackdown on migrants. Now the move is seen as a reaction to the success of the right-wing UK Independence Party, which made significant gains in last week's local elections. Europe correspondent Philip Williams takes a closer look at the party and its leader. So let me guess, so this is Nigel Farage, of course, who we enjoy very much when he's harping against the

2:36:13 the European Union. Yeah, and this is a report that was done in Australia, so the foreign correspondent, but you know it's slanted. Well do you think they're gonna call him like crazy right-wing nut job? Apparently, when you listen to the report you'll see that's what they were calling him, and now they have to change their ways. Just a week ago the established parties were describing this man and his party as Fruit loops and racists, political fringe dwellers. This has been a long week in politics. I tell you what, I've been up half the night. This is absolutely marvellous. The UK Independence Party attracted nearly a quarter of the votes in seats it stood in the local government elections. Suddenly UKIP leader Nigel Farage was being seen in a very different light. A threat, a player. The normal stable political structure of Britain has just been thrown up in the air and we'll see how it comes back down. And what's really interesting is that it's not just Tory votes we're getting, it's Labour votes up north too.

2:37:13 What this does tell us is that there is now a fourth force in British politics and one that does have the potential over time to start to win seats at the national level but certainly in the short term to influence what all the other parties say and think. While the party foundations are built on anti-European bedrock, the vote catcher was a hard line on immigration. We opened up the doors to Poland and seven other Eastern European countries in 2004. and the government said this would lead to an increase of 15,000 people a year coming to Britain. I said hogwash, it'll lead to a lot more than that and indeed over a million have come. The major parties denied their policies will shift to the right because of UKIP's success but already some conservatives are

2:37:58 are arguing perhaps they should. Concern is more, are they paying attention? Do they understand the things that I face as an ordinary person? The fact that I'm having trouble making ends meet, the fact that I can't afford the taxes and the heating costs and the growing cost of food and so on. All those things, they've got to, the public have got to believe the government understands and I think at the moment a fair chunk of them, 25-30% of them don't believe that. Listen to this. What? This is Obama. Oh, you don't hear him? It's the president here in Texas. I can relate. And, you know, I just had a chance to see some of the incredible work that some of the young people here are doing. What? Like printing our plastic guns? Mathematical equations to build musical instruments. Tests on... Alright, whatever. Dismantle that.

CHAPTER 42 / 43 Discussion

3D Printed Guns, Cody Wilson and Undetectable Firearms Act

The emergence of 3D-printed plastic guns, pioneered by Cody Wilson, has sparked a national debate on gun control and security. Critics argue the timing of the "Liberator" pistol's release is suspiciously aligned with the expiration of the Undetectable Firearms Act, while others suggest it could disrupt the global arms trade.

3d printing· cody wilson· plastic guns· gun control· arms dealers

2:39:03 I have to unplug it. The plastic gun story we have to get to probably the next show. Well, yeah, we will have to... we do have to get to that. Well, actually, maybe there is a little clip I wanted to... because this is... you know how we always talked about the war on... there was going to be the war on ammo before we got to the war on crazy? Yes, we talked about the war on ammo and the war on crazy and the war on women right so that's so that's where it's going but first let's listen to the the today show Matt Lauer With his panel of professionals, which I think it's like morons as three I recognize them vaguely they're celebrities, but now they're

2:39:43 professionals, but it's basically three morons sitting on stools as this conversation comes up about the printed gun. These professionals are going to weigh in on what could be a game changer in the gun debate, a plastic pistol undetectable by most security systems that almost anyone can make at home using some modern technology. Now apparently someone has perfected making a gun, a plastic gun that cannot be detected by most security systems with one of these 3D printers. A 25-year-old law school student named Cody Wilson says he may release the details of how to do this soon. What do we do about it? Alright, let's go to our professionals. More on number one.

2:40:27 Diane, I know that this was concerning you, but legally you say to yourself, I'm not sure how much we can do about it at this point other than really step up our efforts at gun control, but more importantly the behind the scenes. Yeah, let's step up our efforts on gun control, but let's go to more on number two. You're not going to... This gets around gun control. Well, it actually, if you make the behavior the penalty for the behavior, possession of a gun no matter how it's manufactured. But much more extrangeous. By the time they get on the plane and kill us all, I mean TSA is gonna be horrible, this is horrible. It's like the process of making this gun is ahead of the gun laws. Oh the gun laws are so much behind every part of society.

2:41:12 I love it. That's what you watch. Do they bring up the fact that the gun can only be shot 10 times and it may explode on the first shooting, the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, you know, up to 10? Apparently it won't shoot more than 10 without blowing up and blowing off your hand. So I did learn something on the Jake Tapper show with Congressman Israel. Plastic guns are already illegal. I did not know that. obsolete technologies now that you can actually make a plastic gun and bring it on a plane. So what's your solution? My solution is to simply extend something that has been on the books for 10 years, the Undetectable Firearms Act that says that you cannot manufacture and transport weapons that cannot be picked up by metal detectors. It was common sense in 2003 when George Bush signed the law. It is now urgent sense now that the 3D printers are actually manufacturing these plastic weapons and now that the law is expiring at the end of this year.

2:42:26 Well, how convenient that the plastic gun shows up at the minute when this bill has to be re-bought. Yeah, that's pretty convenient. Buzzkill Jr. had a theory about this saying these guns aren't got nothing to do with us. They're just essentially a roundabout way to getting guns into the hands of Africans. We're going to be shooting up each other anyway African and it screws the arms dealers because you get these crazy Africans you give them one of these guns and sure it can only shoot six or seven times but no no I'm in total agreement the reason why this is an issue is not because of citizens this is because we can't have this is a good business we can't have people making their own guns look at who's selling them yeah this is this will never fly

CHAPTER 43 / 43 Discussion

Castle Drone Episode, Autonomous AI and Show Outro

An episode of the television show "Castle" is analyzed as propaganda for the use of autonomous military drones in domestic surveillance. The episode's plot involving a hacker and AI-controlled drones is used to normalize the idea of lethal machines making decisions without human intervention before the podcast signs off for the week.

castle· drones· ai· surveillance· propaganda

2:43:11 Never ever ever fly now. This is this is gonna be a huge problem. It's gonna be all kinds of bullcrap They'll pull out of the woodwork for it, but look look who's making the guns and who's selling him You can't you can't mess in their business. Uh-uh big mistake big mistake So anyway, it is a bypass over arms dealers I did want to talk about a little bit about the castle show that had the drones. Yeah Did you get a clip of that? No, because I was watching it in Los Angeles and I didn't have my clip machine with me. But maybe if someone could get me some clips with some gems in there. The story simply put was there was a bunch of military drones surveilling New York, armed apparently, and one of them fires a missile into some guy's car to kill him. And he was a whistleblower or a guy who wrote a newsletter or blogger.

2:44:06 and they tried to track it back to the army and everyone denied it and it turned out to be a hacker that developed some code that could break into all the drones and then the guy's son actually was the final culprit. Spoiler! Now I don't have to watch the episode. Thanks. You don't have to watch it anyway. But it's just, what it was to me was a propaganda episode making it okay to have these military drones surveilling the city of New York. I have two clips here. I have a clip where the guy admits to writing the software and I have Castle Drone Someone Has to Stop It. This is the autonomous stuff.

2:44:51 Are those any good or do you need something else? The autonomous one's good, you might as well play that. Okay, let me see. I have it. This is one of our producers sent this to me. I haven't had time to watch it because I got no time to watch these stupid shows. But I'm glad you did. When you're... I was in a hotel in Los Angeles. Lonely. SpectraVision, my friend. SpectraVision. That's when you're supposed to be watching porn. What are you doing watching Castle when you're by yourself? Mr. Warburg, let's talk about Dale Tanner. If you want to know if I killed him, the answer is yes, I did. Would you like to tell me why? It began two years ago with this. I don't understand what a car driving through the desert has to do with Dale Tanner. Intelligence support said there were three high-ranking Afghan militants in this car. It was the right-making model. So the drone pilot was given the green light to strike. But then he saw those red dots on the trunk and he had a feeling. So he aborted the mission.

2:45:51 There were no militants in that car, the red dots were roses. Because the young couple driving down that desert road had just gotten married. That's when I knew I could no longer be a part of the drone program. I don't understand why the pilot didn't fire. Because the next generation of drones won't have pilots. The new AI software will give drones decision-making capability. They'll assess the data and take lethal action all on their own. Or they will be, we're eyes on the machines. Those new drones will turn that car to ash without hesitation. That's why, when lives are at stake, we need a man who sees roses.

2:46:27 It gets worse from there. Oh yeah, no, it's the whole thing is terrible. Indeed you shouldn't watch it. And of course I was watching instead of watching porn because I'm working on the show at all times. Oh come on, you can take a 30 second break. It's usually about 15 seconds. It doesn't seem like it's worth it. Wow, two old guys. Hey, you know, where's the lotion? That was a low point in our history. Alright. Hey, you know what? We're screwed and we might as well enjoy ourselves while we're laughing at everything. Indeed. Alright. Well. We will have a lot of Agenda 21 stuff to talk about on Sunday. I've got some real gems that we just didn't get to today.

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