Episode 492 · Sunday, 3 March 2013

Pet Food Stamps

Whistleblowers warn of roadside TSA checkpoints as the federal government proposes a domestic Peace Academy and cryptocurrency hits record highs amidst global austerity protests.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 492

About this episode

A new TSA whistleblower policy suggests the Department of Homeland Security is moving toward interstate IED screening on public roadways under the guise of protecting legitimate commerce. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the 10th anniversary of the DHS alongside a presidential proclamation for National Consumer Protection Week, which they argue uses condescending rhetoric to mask the government's role in the 2008 financial crisis. The session highlights the militarization of domestic agencies and the push for a cabinet-level Secretary of Peacebuilding under HR 808.

Representative Maxine Waters faces scrutiny for claiming sequestration would cost 170 million jobs, a figure exceeding the entire American workforce. Despite dire warnings from President Barack Obama regarding military budget cuts, defense stocks for Raytheon and Boeing have reached new highs. The global landscape remains volatile as anti-austerity protests erupt in Lisbon while Secretary of State John Kerry pledges 60 million dollars to the Syrian Opposition Coalition. Meanwhile, the market value of Bitcoin has surpassed 33 dollars, prompting the show to officially adopt a cryptocurrency donation model to maintain independence from traditional banking gatekeepers.

John C. Dvorak offers a satirical culinary guide to masking the scent of cheap cat food with marjoram for those on the new Pet Food Stamps program. The hosts mock the media's obsession with President Obama's Star Trek gaffe and Dennis Rodman’s diplomatic mission to North Korea with Vice Magazine. Executive Producer Mark Wilson is knighted for his support as the show explores the history of CIA media infiltration via Operation Mockingbird and the suspicious reporting surrounding Al-Qaeda commander Mokhtar Belmokhtar.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

National Consumer Protection Week, American Red Cross Month

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the session from the Travis Heights hideout in Austin, Texas. They acknowledge National Consumer Protection Week and the 10th anniversary of the United States Department of Homeland Security. Technical difficulties regarding audio quality and a previous internet outage are briefly addressed.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· national consumer protection week· american red cross month· department of homeland security

00:00 I don't know that they were drinking, I think they were smoking dope. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, March 3rd, 2013, time for your Get In My Nation Media Assassination episode 492. This is no agenda. Living a mac and cheese life from the Travis Heights hideout at the intersection of MoFo and SoCo in the capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. I'm yuckin it up. I'm John C. DeMora What the heck was that all about? You caught me with that crazy, the way you said Adam Curry was so off the what it was. Oh, I'm sorry. You're being like the John Galt guy. Oh, was that it? I was be I dude I am the John Galt guy in case you didn't know.

00:53 Let's play that clip for the blue didn't get to hear it beginning. You're coming in real crappy today. What happened? Baby don't snap out of it. Yeah, this yell well. It's not me. It's you you need to yell a little bit You need to get on the stick hello. Hello Are you there? Can you hear me? I'm here. Okay, you sound like crap, but we'll we'll live through it. Oh Well, no reason for that. No, I know it's like we start the show and then it all goes to crap. Yeah, we're just we're testing for 10 minutes. We didn't know this wasn't on the show last time, but we got cut off. Yeah, no, right after the show, we're talking for three minutes and boom, then you lose your entire inner webs.

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

National Consumer Protection Week Proclamation, NCPW.gov Website

A presidential proclamation regarding National Consumer Protection Week is analyzed for its rhetoric concerning the 2008 financial crisis. The hosts critique the official website, ncpw.gov, describing its design and outreach toolkits as condescending and simplistic. Reference is made to Peter Wallison’s book, "Bad History, Worse Policy," which attributes the financial crisis to government policy rather than a lack of oversight.

barack obama· ncpw.gov· consumer protection· financial crisis· community reinvestment act

01:39 Yeah, we were talking about something, we were talking about government issues. Yeah, it didn't sit well with everybody. Someone didn't like what we were saying. Hey John, let me be the first to wish you a very happy National Consumer Protection Week. Oh, well thank you very much. I've been waiting for someone to congratulate me. And also, I'd like to congratulate you on National American Red Cross Month. Nice. Happy 10th anniversary to the United States Department of Homeland Security. Oh, well. Shut up, A! There you go. I love how the, you know, we have these... That thing's been in business for a decade. A decade, really. So you have the presidential proclamation for all these things. And you have the National Consumer Protection Week. I'd just like to read to you how farcical... Is that a word, farcical? Yep. It's a good word, right? It's like a popsicle, only it's a fake.

02:38 Farsicle. And that's fake. Fars is different than fake. Okay. So the farce of... Here it is. I've got National Consumer Protection Week. So just listen to this proclamation. Over four years ago, widespread abuses in America's financial system nearly brought our economy to its knees. Millions saw their life savings erode. Businesses shuttered their doors and families were devastated by job loss and foreclosures. The crisis cast a harsh light on the breakdown in oversight that led to an epidemic of irresponsibility. It highlighted the need for common-sense regulations to protect the vast majority of Americans from the reckless actions of a few. Is this guy writing his legacy or what?

03:30 During National Consumer Protection Week, we remind those lessons, we remember those lessons, and we recognize that our shared prosperity depends on empowering all Americans to make sound decisions for themselves and their families. Have no worries, citizens. It is a very happy Consumer Protection Week. I just read that, I'm like, so it's all fixed now? It's fixed. It's all good. Well, of course there was a really good on the financial crisis a really good meeting at the American Enterprise Institute with a guy wrote this book I recommend people reading it if you can afford it. It's generally written for the echelon. Peter Wollison, a bad history worse policy where he documents everything that's fake about the financial crisis and so far as why it was caused and how it got worse.

04:24 and came down to end up blaming it on the Community Reinvestment Act and the government. But this can't be true, John, because you jumped the gun a little bit, but there's a website to go with National Consumer Protection Week. Yeah? Yeah. It's fancy looking. It will teach you. It'll teach me. I bet it will. It is ncpw.gov. National Consumer Protection Week. NCPW.gov. Just look at it! Look at this! This website tells me... Ooh, it's got like a little infograph. I knew you'd love this website. Spread the word! Use sample press releases! Social... Wait a minute! I sometimes I see these things and I can't sleep at night waiting to show them to you.

05:19 Because I know you're gonna love it. Hey, we can place an order for something. Hold on. We can order something. What can we order? Use sample press releases, social network blurbs, and web banners to promote NCPW. Really? Wait, place an order. I want to place an order. Order free resources. So in other words, take your press release. Let me look at these press releases. I want to order free resources. There's free resources here, damn it. consume view the to toolkit subscribe get email updates from part

05:55 about us Wow General brochures, where's the sample press releases? You know who's a part of this National Cyber Security Alliance is a part of the is a partner And the and they're located in Nigeria It's just unbelievable and then some some company somewhere made no I had several million dollars at least putting this very colorful I kind of, it's the, you know, it's got the pastel color motif. It's a horrible looking thing. It's so old-fashioned, it's ridiculous.

06:31 consumer topics. Very probably very compatible if they drive they take these rounded corners and square them off it look good on a Windows 8 machine. Yeah. Add buttons and banners promote your event. What event? We should make an event. Where's the National Consumer Protection Week event? We need an event. I can't find the press releases. Be a gracious host. Host a forum workshop or seminar in your community and share the tools people need for today's economy. Partner with local organizations such as the police department or library Really? Mm-hmm. I'm gonna be a gracious host put it in writing customize a sample article and send it to local organization Oh, this is a good one

07:17 Customize the sample article and send it to local organizations so they can promote NCPW through their publications. Contact your local television, radio or cable... Don't they have anyone in the government to do this work? Contact your local television, radio or cable access station. Offer to tell their audience about your National Consumer Protection Week event. By the way, ¿Ve esta página en español? know it's two websites it's in Espanol as well oh yeah I can see the translation is the same yeah it's another one this is on the list on get involved shout it from the rooftops tell your friends family and colleagues and neighbors

08:04 Word of mouth is powerful it says. It's always asked about. But is everybody like in the fifth grade in today's government? Yes. This is not something you do in the fifth grade. You know it's funny you say that because it is so condescending. It's like we're all morons and we've never been online before. What? Fifth graders. Yeah. This is very fifth grade. Oh here's an embedded thing. National Consumer Protection Week 2013. Your information destination You get some banners here. Let me let me cuz we could do this all for the entire show I'd it's not it's an amazing. It's a divine website however I'd like to read to you a little piece from the presidential proclamation for the 10th anniversary of the United States Department of Homeland Security I mean this is prose man. This is beautiful. This is like four score and

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Department of Homeland Security 10th Anniversary Proclamation

The hosts review the prose of the presidential proclamation celebrating a decade of the Department of Homeland Security. The text highlights the agency's mission to secure borders, ports, and cyber networks since the events of September 11, 2001. The commentary characterizes the language as militaristic and largely ignored by the general public.

department of homeland security· dhs· barack obama· presidential proclamation· 9/11

09:00 How many years ago was it, fourscore and... Seven. Seven years. It all starts like that. Ten years ago. Hold on. I wish you could do Obama. Oh. Hi everybody! I wish I could. But I'll just do, um... My, uh, I'll do my voiceover... Just a general blowhard. Yeah. Voiceover voice that gets me no work. Okay? That's the one I like to use the most. Ten years ago, when the tragic events of September 11 were fresh in our hearts, and our nation found itself more uncertain in a more uncertain world. The United States Department of Homeland Security, DHS, opened its doors with a single task, touching your penis. Keeping the American people safe, day by day, hour by hour. The department has advanced that critical mission through a decade of shifting threats and new challenges. We take this opportunity to recognize its accomplishments and pay tribute to the people who have made them possible.

09:58 alongside its partners in government and the private sector. DHS has taken action to make our borders and ports more secure, our critical infrastructure and cyber networks more resilient, and our people more engaged in addressing the dangers we face. While threats persist, America is prepared to meet them, and we stand ready to overcome whatever challenges the future holds. America, fuck yeah! And it goes on and on and on. This is amazing. It's militaristic. Nobody reads any of this crap. I do I love it. It's fantastic and you know we actually at what ties right into this is a Follow-up from our TSA shill who prefers to be go by the name G Roper He doesn't like the TSA shill thing. He says G Roper as suggested by the chat room is more appropriate. I

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

TSA Insider, Interstate IED Screening Policy

A TSA whistleblower, referred to as G Roper, provides an analysis of a new executive policy regarding the reclassification of Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs). The insider suggests that the government is moving toward an interstate screening process on public roadways. This policy allegedly uses the concept of "legitimate commerce" to justify searching vehicles for explosives at state and local boundaries.

tsa· g roper· improvised explosive devices· interstate commerce· checkpoints

10:51 and uh... i've got to share this with you so that i i was blown away by the policy statement the white house uh... that you read referring to the improvised explosive devices now you remember this john we're did we had quite a conversation about this uh... this presidential policy and the executive order regarding the uh... uh... office of bombing prevention and the reclassification of improvise explosive devices so the crotch bomb was not easy The first World Trade Center bomb was an IED. So now anything that blows up, anything that goes poof is an IED. Our TSA insider says, I understood that you felt this policy was a beginning to an information gathering and collection system within the government similar to the credit recording system. However, I believe this policy is a precursor to an extension of the TSA.

11:45 This caught my attention as you can imagine, John. I know it's a scary thought and I'm right there with you, shit in my pants, quoting a section of the policy, screening, detecting and protecting our people, facility and transportation systems, critical infrastructure as well as the flow of legitimate commerce. The insider says, these are key words that are thrown around at my workplace on a daily basis. While reading through this policy I could not help but constantly think that the government was moving towards an interstate screening process, including public roadways.

12:22 I believe that this policy is intended to prepare and scare the public into believing that we need to screen, which means search, every vehicle that travels between states. The concept of quote legitimate commerce is also scary because the only way to confirm legitimacy is to search the vehicle to be assured there is not an IED on board. The next quote is also important. A whole of government approach that integrates federal, state, local, tribal, territorial, private sector and global participation in counter IED activities will best position the United States to discover plots to use IEDs in the United States or against the U.S. persons abroad before those threats become imminent.

13:02 According to our TSA insider. I hold that what this is referring to is checkpoints all across boundaries Internationally including what is mentioned state local tribal territorial etc. Hope all is well with you and yours I've yet to receive two to the head keep up the good work And there goes tiger a tiger so That is a pretty good analysis. I think we have a great audience and Yeah, I think he's right too. And the thing is, it's not that it hasn't been done and put up with before. When you're driving into California, not when you're driving out, but when you're driving into California, they stop you. They stop you from Nevada, they stop you from Washington or from Oregon, they stop you from everywhere on the main roads. You can sneak through if you go around. But they stop you and ask you if you're bringing in any fruits.

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

California Agricultural Checkpoints, Border Patrol Resistance

The discussion shifts to the legality of agricultural checkpoints at the California border intended to prevent the spread of fruit flies. One host recounts an anecdote about a banana in a cup holder while debating the merits of resisting such searches. The conversation contrasts local agricultural inspections with the 100-mile border patrol zone in Texas.

california· fruit fly· agricultural inspection· fourth amendment· border patrol

13:58 and they can search the car. They cannot search the car. Well, they searched the car anyway. Yeah, but they cannot. A lot of people can't do what? What are you going to do? Run for it? No. When they stop you, you say, Am I am I free to go and they'll say well and they'll probably say are you an American citizen you say I don't have to answer that am I free to go or you can say Do you suspect me of a crime am I being detained and eventually they will let you go? There's hundreds of you to the well eventually if you want to do that. Yes, I Will do that no because I'm not a slave and then we're fine. I know I got no fruits. I'm on my way. Oh slave

14:44 See, I can't do it with Ms. Mickey in the car because she's not an American citizen and they have the right to detain her. Yeah. That's the problem with the public service. Oh, I see. You've got the universal excuse. No, because if I'm by myself and I'm pulled over or I'm stopped and they ask me these silly questions, I will definitely not submit to it. You know, the funny thing is, is last time I came through... As long as it's after... As long as it's like a Friday or a Monday. Because, you know... Last time I came through, they asked me if I had any fruit. I was driving down from Washington to Oregon and I had a banana.

15:21 I forgot that I put the banana in the cup holder. You know what? I has no fruit. So the guy looks at the banana. He said, the first thing he throws, he looks in the car and I realized, what do I say? What is he looking at? Why is he looking at me? And he's looking at the banana. He says, do you have any fruit? I said, no. He said, okay. And off I went. Is that a banana in your pants? Are you just in your cup holder? Or are you just really happy to see me? When you're coming in from Hawaii, they x-ray your luggage looking for guavas and other contraband. Is that because of the dreaded fruit fly? Is that what that's all about?

16:01 Who knows, they're trying to keep the tropical weird bugs out of California. But it's not okay. It's really not okay. We have this 100 mile border patrol in Texas. But this is a different operation. This is the Californians. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who it is. It does not matter. No, it doesn't. It's the Gestapo or some local guy. I'd rather have the local guy. It doesn't matter. They do not have the right. Idealistically. Yeah, but of all the people. You from Berkeley. I mean, you should be resisting this. No, I was raised in California. I'm responsible Californian. We do not need these bugs in the state ruining our crop. It's an agricultural state. Sure. I have no problem with this. Right. So that's fine. So then don't bring your banana in, Mr. I forgot about the banana. I didn't notice until I was down the road. So you're anything but a responsible Californian. You're bringing damn bananas in. You know, bananas don't carry anything. And I was going to throw the peel out the window.

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Bitcoin Value Surge, No Agenda Bitcoin Donations

Bitcoin's market price surpassing $33 triggers a discussion on the viability of cryptocurrency. The hosts decide to officially accept Bitcoin donations for the show, providing a specific wallet address. They compare digital currency to the wooden coins used at the Austin Sustainable Center's farmers market and debate whether Bitcoin will eventually crash or gain mainstream acceptance.

bitcoin· cryptocurrency· austin farmers market· wooden coins· digital currency

17:03 Yeah, to spread the bug Wow Do it up in the mountains? There's no problems up there. Yeah, okay? No, I'm just you go ahead submit all you want which brings me to the next obvious topic Bitcoin has passed the magic 33 number since you advised me to sell which I did not do I held on to my bitcoins and we you and I are being berated in the Bitcoin averse What, there's two guys? Did you hear those jabronis? Here's my favorite line. Any technical ALT analyst who looks at the fundamentals can see that these guys are full of crap. Wow. There's some podcast, these guys are like...

17:50 They'd acted I like what they did because they were they talk like this They were doing an assassination of us the way we do assassinations So I like that with the playing of clips and stuff, but I'm like okay. You know this is funny But I'm like I'm waiting for the big reveal the big here's the document. Here's the information. Here's the proof Bitcoin Why it's it was the greatest thing ever yeah And no, I want to know... Even though it's an unregistered security as far as I'm concerned. I'm holding on to it. I mean, you know me, I'm a believer. I want to believe this stuff. I just, I can't convince my landlady to take bitcoins for the rent. Otherwise I'd be set. Even if the market, if the Austin farmers market would, and they have their own money, they have wooden

18:34 Money if wooden coins. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, you can buy wooden coins. They have an ATM that literally poops out wooden coins It's cool. Yeah five dollar coins and you can only spend them at the market now Of course you're you are just use the five dollar bill. Is that no good? there is no transaction fee on the exchange between the between your dollars and the wooden money and That's why. And of course that money then, they have an ATM, so the Austin Sustainable Center or whatever it's called, they operate the ATM that, it's pretty funny the wooden coins, it's cool. And of course, you know, it keeps the money within the system. So, you know, you're not going to take that $5 piece of wood and spend it at Halcyon on bottomless mimosas.

19:27 What kind of cockamamie scheme is this at this farmers market? I think it's a good idea. How is it a good idea? I've got five dollars and I go to the farmer and say here's a five dollar bill give me some five dollars worth of produce I take and I go home. You go through the extra effort of buying a five dollar wooden coin. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't do that typically. I'm just saying you can. Why would you want to? Because it's wood. It's pretty, it's pretty wood. If it's collectible I think it's highly collectible but it's like I'm a sucker for these things. I'm down with it. I like the whole idea of alternate, alternative you know payment methods you know living under the radar. I'm totally down with that. Living under the radar. But people who say man you should be accepting bitcoins on the show. No I can't do that. I can't. I mean if

20:26 If Bitcoin crashes tomorrow, then I'm one, two donation segments away from eviction. Why can't we accept Bitcoins? I'm a big fan of these Bitcoins. You want to accept Bitcoins? I want the naysayers to pay attention. I'm a big fan of these bitcoins, so if somebody wanted to give us bitcoins, I don't know how to accept them. That's the problem. Oh, okay. I have a bitcoin address. I'll manage the bitcoin flow, because it'll be so much work. Why don't you manage the Bitcoin flow and when the two bitcoins finally come in, which is gonna be about to take on this deal, split them up with me. Okay, so you are about to witness one of the biggest problems with Bitcoin. Are you ready? You ready? Because I'm getting the information. So, hold on a second. I'm going to find the page. Here we go.

21:25 Alright, so please donate your bitcoins to 1k9zgjrjwq17ld7usmvzitjtnhq6un69av. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Looking forward to it. I'll put a link on the donation page eventually. If I can ever get that number right. And some of those are uppercase. You have to... Oh yeah, it has to be. And it probably is important. You have to memorize that. Hey, this is where my wooden coin doesn't look so stupid.

22:05 Here's a piece of wood. Oh, thank you Alex. That piece of wood is worth 1k92gjrj. Alright, so did we just have a meeting, an executive meeting where we said yes, we'll accept Bitcoin as donation? Wow. Don't you think we should? Okay. To assuage the Bitcoin fanatics, all five of them. Okay, so we'll keep a running tally. But yeah, actually we will compare that to Pelsmacher. No, Pelsmacher is going to start donating in Bitcoin. Don't you understand? No, no, Pelsmacher, do not do that. I'm telling you, this is very dangerous what you're doing. Because if Bitcoin crashes... No, I'm just convinced it is not dangerous. But like I said, if more than 5p, I'll tell you, I'll make a bet. I'll bet you a Bitcoin, which I think you already owe me, that

22:57 That no more than five people within the next let's say year Donate via Bitcoin. I think you're wrong. We'll have more than five people donating via Bitcoin. That is not a good bet I don't think so really let's say ten Okay, I'll say ten ten. Okay, you say ten. Yeah ten. I will say that I will point out that in this podcast These two gentlemen took great pleasure in saying Reiterating over and over again that you thought the iPad market would never take off. Yeah, I did that Yeah, but it's it's I find that to be kind of mean and I get a little defensive when people do that because of all the predictions you've made

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

John C. Dvorak Tech Predictions, iPad and iPhone

John C. Dvorak reflects on his history of technology predictions, admitting to being wrong about the success of the iPad and the initial launch of the iPhone. He discusses the failure of the Apple Newton and the evolution of near-field communication. The segment highlights the difficulty of predicting consumer tech trends without hands-on experience prior to launch.

john c. dvorak· apple· iphone· ipad· apple newton

23:43 I've written over 5,000 columns and there's probably a thousand predictions in there and there's about six of them. Yeah. Well actually, maybe ten. But I can only document about four. And I don't count the mouse one because that was never a prediction. That's bull crap. That was a creation of other people. but I did predict the... It was an unfortunate one. You know how this goes, you can't let it down. I never did it, I don't care. I never made that prediction, it's bull crap. I did predict the failure of the iPad and the iPhone for that matter, so that's two. Nobody ever calls me out on my prediction that the Panasonic 2.5 inch drive would be a huge success.

24:24 totally wrong. It never happened because the thing never worked. Are you giving us all your failures now? The only ones that come out the top of my head. How about what you called correctly? Outside of the show because you know the Red Book is too vast. There's all kinds of stuff. Linux on the Apple, the Intel on the Mac platform. I mean there's a million things. But they don't count. That doesn't count. Everyone harps on the iPhone one was the big mistake but there was I can actually rationalize that so it doesn't concern me. Because I never got to see the thing in advance. Everybody who was saying it's going to be great saw they had the one in their hands and when I got a hold of the first iPhone I said, hell this is a great idea. Yeah. And I was completely wrong. So yeah. Yeah. Never excuse myself on that one. The iPad one there's no excuses. It was just a misprediction and I'm I still don't use pads myself. So maybe from I don't know maybe I'm losing my touch. You're not a you're not a pad man.

25:20 No, I'm not a pad man. I'm not either honestly. I mean I have that big phone. I like that. The big phone is pretty cool, but I can't deal with the... It's got to fit in my pocket or kind of fit in my pocket. They're heavy too, these pads. Yeah. But anyway, I've played with them. I've had... You know, and I said this is cool. I watched stuff on them and they're kind of a nice toy, I have to say. But it's just like, you know, when I want to deal with a computer, I'd rather sit down and with a big desk top. How about the Newton? What did you say about the Newton? Oh, the Newton, I fell... Did you fall for that one? Well, that's probably one of the reasons I didn't think much of the pad idea. The Newton was a huge flop because it's main claim to fame was that we're gonna do handwriting recognition and it didn't do anything. It couldn't even get anywhere. It was terrible. I went to Boston for that first

26:17 release I flew to Boston to be in line to get the first Newton and I remember sitting on the ground in a circle with other idiots and we were like sending handwritten messages to each other, oh here's my contact Remember that you have to aim it like oh, you know aiming. Yeah, remember that The poem when it came out had a bunch of these kinds of you could exchange cards and stuff And I think that's kind of the near-field communication Bumping is also that kind of element to it where people you want my you want a copy of my mp3? Bump clam bumper yeah class. That's what we're gonna call it clam bumping

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

Producer Credits, Executive Producer Mark Wilson

The hosts acknowledge financial support from the "No Agenda" producers under the value-for-value model. Mark Wilson from Glasgow is recognized as an Executive Producer for a $600 donation. An anonymous donor from Kew Gardens, New York, is also thanked for a $200 contribution, receiving "job karma" in return.

mark wilson· glasgow· paypal· donations· value for value

27:03 Anyway in the morning to you John see you Adam Curry glad to get the show off the off the off the ground here and in the mind all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water feed in the air and also the Knights and dames out there yeah and in the morning to all of our artists thank you very much Thorin for the artwork on episode four niner one no agenda art generator commas where you can find all of our art and in the morning to you their chat room Freaking out over the... Everyone's so happy now. We're going to accept Bitcoin as donation. What's next? Flatter? You never know. Flatter could be on the way. In the chat room there, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net. Thank you very much. Avoid Zero, Sir Gitmo, Mr. Oil for keeping us on the air. That's highly appreciated. And you want to go right into producers? We can just keep moving on.

27:52 Well, I think it's a short list today. It looks short if you can stall for a minute while I actually why yes I can how'd I do it was terrible so So we have a couple producers. I want to thank executive producers to couple when I say couple I mean two there's two to Mark Wilson I sent JC I don't know why we don't have Mark Wilson is a night today Mark Wilson gave us $600 and He did have a note

28:39 By the way, a lot of these new guys are coming along and they can't seem to figure out how to put the note into the... Yeah, well it's not automatic. You have to click a little expand box when you're on PayPal. And PayPal, for all it's good, really does suck. I mean, wait until we do Bitcoin. Hey, I sent my Bitcoin donation with 29532 uppercase 7129229... I got an idea. We can modify the bit and the whole thing. If we don't get Five Bitcoin donations in the next 60 days. We kill it and the other bet forget it. We won't do it

29:21 I don't want to bet on anything. I just want to pay my rent. All right, well anyway, Mark Wilson, who's a knight today, gave us 600 bucks. He did send a note in, but it's just mostly his, uh, he's in Glasgow. Well, where's the note? It's right, we're looking at it, but it's just his accounting for his knight. Oh, okay, I was a knight. Okay, good. Well, good. Ring size and the stuff that we, there's no reason to ring, but he does ask for karma. Well, he's going to get some right now, and he will have a knighting ceremony later on in the show. You've got karma. And then we have our associate executive producer at $200 and that's the end of it, Anonymous. He doesn't even want to admit to watching or listening to the show. Q Gardens New York says they just want some job karma and an LGY for an upcoming interview. All right, job karma coming your way and an LGY. You've got karma. Yay! There you go. And that's it? That's that. Yeah, that's all we got. And now for our Bitcoin segment.

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Bitcoin Volatility, Value for Value Model

The hosts reiterate their plan to manage Bitcoin donations and express concerns about the currency's volatility. They emphasize the importance of the value-for-value model in keeping the show independent. A brief comparison is made between Bitcoin's hype-driven demand and traditional stocks like General Motors.

bitcoin· dvorak.org· value for value· general motors· supply and demand

30:17 Alright people, please we will we'll put our Bitcoin number at the website devorek.org slash n a and what we'll do is I'm gonna keep a tally and the minute it comes in I'm exchanging that quickly because that's what I'm afraid of so we'll just have it sitting around and then all of a sudden it goes from $33 to 2.2 cents yeah whatever it could it could happen it could it should happen are you kidding Well, this is the whole argument, is that people are saying, you don't understand free market economics. What are they talking about? There's no there there.

30:59 Well, apparently you're buying a share of General Motors I think the idea is that because there's a limited supply and now and this is exactly what I said because there's a hype around it People are talking about it now people want them. Yeah, that is supply and demand I get that but when people have all these bitcoins like well, I can only buy like some virtual gold for my you know, my farm ville or whatever I'm hungry. Hey, I'm hungry. You know, I want I want us I want some mac and cheese You know, I can't get that and I have to like go buy a green money bundle and then the green money bundle translates to a PayPal and then the PayPal I have to send back to my bank and then I finally have the money. This is not very convenient. This is my problem with it. But people say, I have faith, I have faith and we've shown it. So anyway, please go to Dvorak.org slash na no generation.com. What else do we have?

31:52 Noagendershow.com obviously. Noagendershow.com and channeldvorak.com slash NA. Yeah, but dvorak.org slash NA is really the place to go. Continue to support this value for value model. It's extremely, extremely important so that we can continue doing what we do, which we do thoroughly enjoy as long as we can continue to live. Basic life, that's all that it is. Now of course you can always go out and you can do something important like, I don't know, propagate the formula. Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth All right, then do we want to get straight into legislation or do something else because you got all I mean I do you know we tease and I want to pay off on the promise that we're gonna look at this new Ministry of Peace and

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Department of Peacebuilding Act, HR 808 Legislation

The hosts analyze HR 808, the Department of Peacebuilding Act of 2013. The legislation proposes a cabinet-level Secretary of Peacebuilding and cites statistics on global violence and gun deaths. A tangent occurs regarding the legality of suicide in the United States and the public nuisance costs associated with it.

hr 808· department of peacebuilding· gun control· suicide laws· united nations

32:57 Oh yeah, we gotta do that. Let's do the Ministry of Peace right off the bat. I want to hear about that myself. Okay. Because I didn't, you know, I let it go. I said, well, you got to cover, so I'm not, I looked at it, I looked at the, you know, their proposals, but I didn't want to dig too much because I'm sure you got, you've already got all the work and we don't like to be redundant, the two of us. It's also like, it's 41 pages of legislation. So for us, we, Hail everybody. That's, uh, Hail everybody. So this came through last week. It is HR 808, which by the way is also a very powerful sequence of numbers. And it has been deposited, I think there's now, I forgot, I have to look up last week's show notes. What was the resolution number again? HR 808, known as the Department of Peacebuilding Act of 2013.

33:53 And this already has a number of sponsors. And it starts off with findings. You know, any good... So this is what's interesting. Findings. So these things have been... I mean, people spend a lot of time writing this. Congress finds the following on July 4th 1776 They started early the Second Continental Congress unanimously declared the independence of the 13 colonies and the achievement of peace was recognized as one of the highest duties of the new organization of free and independent space states by declaring

34:33 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." So I didn't hear the word peace in there at all. But okay. Two, the Constitution of the United States of America and its preamble further sets forth... So this is all building up to prove that we need a ministry of peace. further sets forth the insurance of the cause of peace in stating, quote, So somehow that equates to peace, which I don't think is the definition of peace.

35:29 Now, here's the important finding. During the course of the 20th century, more than 100 million people perished in wars. And now, at the dawn of the 21st century, so this was apparently written a while ago, violence seems to be an overarching theme in the world. Oh, is that true, John? Is there only violence in the world? That's what it sounds like from this document. The United States has been at war over the past decade with 6,600 members of the armed forces. Whose fault is that? And hundreds of thousands of civilians estimated to have been killed in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. Gun violence continues to be a public health epidemic. Yeah, so are drones, okay?

36:21 In the United States and globally, every year 300,000 people are killed by gun violence around the world. In the United States, 100,000 people are shot each year in murders, assaults, suicides and suicide attempts, accidents and police actions. They don't really break it down. But by the way, I feel if you want to shoot yourself, I think that's your right. Do we have to have laws against suicide now? We do have laws against suicide. Is it against the law to kill yourself? Yeah. No. Yeah. No. If I want to kill myself, that's my business. No. What law tells me I can't kill myself? You can't just kill yourself. Yes, I can. It's against the law. You could be arrested. Okay, well at least we're making the same point.

37:16 Alright. No, but there's a law again, it's against the law to kill yourself. What law? Here's the reason. If you want to know the rationale, if I was a lawmaker I would tell you. Yes, okay, please. You can't have people killing themselves because half the time they're unsuccessful, it's a public nuisance, they gotta be hauled to the hospital, they jump off a bridge, it causes traffic accidents, all kinds of issues around the process. I'm not saying it's not annoying. It's a mess and it's against the law to kill yourself. I'm not saying it's not annoying. No, it's against the law. It is the law. Well, you have to show me the law. Otherwise, you would just shoot. That's why you can't have assisted suicides. It's against the law everywhere. No, that's assisted suicide. That's someone else. No, they're just helping you. They're not killing you. No, no, no, no. That's very different. It's very different. No, it's against the law. Look it up. Look it up. Yeah, you look it up. No, I already looked. I already know.

38:16 Well, you're such a law-abiding citizen then. So I'll remind you when you want to kill yourself. When you want to kill yourself. It would be impossible to do the show. It would be difficult. All right, so onward. We must address multiple causes of this public health epidemic by reinstating the ban on assault weapons, prohibiting high-capacity magazines, improving mental health services, supporting comprehensive violence prevention efforts, establishing a federal gun buyback program, and enforcing existing laws by investing in our law enforcement agencies to help get guns off the streets.

38:54 This is about gun control again. No, it's not. That is for people who only read the first three pages. Like, I don't know, most news organizations, although I haven't heard anyone talk about this bill on television. Personal violence, you see, personal violence has great human and financial costs. You see, we've got to break it down to money. If we can't equate it to money or Bitcoin, then you don't need a law about it. A 2004 World Health Organization report estimates that interpersonal violence within the United States costs approximately $300 billion annually, not including war-related costs. So outside of the people that we kill in other countries, just the people we're killing and violence that we're doing inside our own country apparently costs $300 billion, and they break that down

39:45 to I think it's $15,000 per human resource per year. So this makes it personal. Like, hey man, that's costing me money when you kill yourself. In 1999, the United Nations adopted a program of action on a culture of peace. Yeah, how did that work out? In 2001, oh, the United Nations declared the years 2001 through 2010 an international decade for a culture of peace and nonviolence for the children of the world. Well, I mean this literally is war is peace. 2001, you couldn't pick a better date to start with the peace campaign. All the way through 2010. So then they get down to, they break it down to the $15,000 per taxpayer. Violence prevention is cost effective. For every dollar spent in violence prevention and peace building, many lives and many dollars are saved. Peace building is systemic and is an issue of health, human rights, justice, and national security. Now,

40:45 How are we going to go about this? Well first of all the Earth Charter calls upon all people to live in the right relationship to the earth and all beings. Are you familiar with the Earth Charter? What's this got to do with it? It's the Earth. Don't you love Mother Earth? That's Agenda 21, the Earth Charter. The Earth Charter provides the following, to move forward we must recognize that in the midst of a magnificent diversity of cultures and life forms, we are one human family and one Earth community with a common destiny. We must join together to bring forth a sustainable global society founded on respect for nature, universal human rights, economic justice, very important, economic justice and a culture of peace. What does economic justice mean?

41:34 That means communism, I think. Yeah, I think so. So, hereby... Cheap bail bonds. Alright. Cheap bail bonds. Affordable bail bonds. So now, we gotta do something about this. So, establishment, hereby... In the passing of this resolution as a law, we will establish the Department of Peace Building that shall be a department in the executive branch of the federal government. We shall have a Secretary of Peace Building. There shall be at the head of the Department a Secretary of Peace Building who shall be appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate. So this is on equal footing with the Department of Homeland Security or any other. It's going to be equal.

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Peace Academy, Unarmed Civilian Peacekeeping Force

The Department of Peacebuilding Act's proposal for a "Peace Academy" is examined. Modeled after military service academies, it would require graduates to serve five years in an unarmed civilian peacekeeping force. The hosts express concern over the bill's provisions for government oversight of media awareness and the creation of a domestic "Brownshirt" army.

peace academy· brownshirts· human security· media awareness· conflict resolution

42:17 Along with this, the department will invest in non-governmental organizations that have implemented successful initiatives to reduce and prevent violence both internationally and domestically. But here's the most important things that the Secretary of Peacebuilding will do. The Secretary will consult with private, public and non-governmental organizations to develop a metric model that provides the means to measure and report progress towards peace. We will have a peaceometer. in the United States. Report to the President, Congress, and the people of the United States and issue reports on such progress manually. What a crock of crap. Well, here's the most important... It sounds like a money grab of some sort. We gotta start an organization. Well, no, here it comes. The organization is the Peace Academy. Oh, the Peace Academy. Yes, let me tell you about the Peace Academy. Okay, that's the kicker. Yeah, well, of course it's at the end. Hold on a second.

43:14 By the way, the Secretary of Peace will also be on the National Security Council, will have weekly meetings with Janet Napolitano, they have human security responsibilities. The Secretary shall address and offer non-violent conflict... this is great... non-violent conflict resolution strategies and suggest resources for unarmed civilian peacekeepers to the appropriate relevant parties on issues of human security. So they're talking about creating resources for an unarmed civilian peacekeeping force

43:50 to work on nonviolent conflict resolution inside the United States. Oh, by the way, there are also media-related responsibilities. The Secretary shall seek assistance in the design and implementation of nonviolent policies from media professionals. Maybe we can get in on that. That sounds like a job for the Curry-DeVore Consulting Group. The Secretary shall study the role of the media in the escalation and de-escalation of conflict at domestic and international levels, including the role of fear-inducing and hate-inducing speech and actions, and will make recommendations to professional media organizations in order to provide opportunities to create media awareness of peace-building initiatives. How awesome is that?

44:41 They're gonna basically tell the media what to do. And here it is, educational responsibilities. The secretary saw with the support of and consultation with the United States Institute of Peace. Oh, did you know that existed? The United States Institute of Peace? Yeah, no, we've talked about the Institute of Peace before. We've had clips from the Institute of Peace. Well, with the USIP, the secretary shall develop a peace education curriculum that includes studies of the civil rights movement in the United States, so they can just send the Lincoln DVD, and throughout the world with special emphasis on the role of non-violence and how individual endeavor and involvement have contributed to advancements in peace and justice, and then create school and community cultures where students and staff do not feel threatened and are free from bullying and harassment.

45:36 This will maintain a public website to solicit and receive ideas for the development of peace from the wealth of politically, socially and culturally diverse public and create and establish a peace academy that shall be modeled after the military service academies. So let me just give that to you one more time. We're going to create and establish a peace academy that will be modeled after the military service academies. Yeah. I mean, that hurts my head. It will provide a four year... I mean, that's like... so it'll be like the war guys, only it'll be for peace. And it will provide a four year course of instruction in peace education, after which graduates will be required to serve five years in public service

46:23 in programs dedicated to domestic or international non-violent conflict resolution, which is that unarmed force. The Brownshirts, ladies and gentlemen. This is the creation of the Brownshirt Army. Could be. Could be. The Peace Academy... Yeah, well, but here's what's interesting to me because I'm doing some work here while you talk to me. Yeah, of course, that's how we roll. Don't you think it's a weird coincidence that the Peace Academy is a name that already exists for a series, including one there in Austin, Texas, of Islamic schools?

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Islamic Peace Academy Branding, Peace Day

A search for "Peace Academy" reveals existing Islamic schools in Austin and Louisville using the name. The hosts discuss the branding conflict between the proposed federal academy and these private institutions. They conclude the segment by mocking the idea of "Peace Days" and the visual of UN blue helmets or domestic peacekeepers.

austin peace academy· charter schools· branding· peace day· blue helmets

47:00 really yeah Islamic K through 12 and they're all called the Peace Academy the Peace Academy in Austin Texas is a is a madras wait a minute wait a minute does someone already have the URL Well, there's a bunch of different URLs for these different places. Because it would have to be peaceacademy.gov. Peace Academy in Louisville is us2biba.com. Peaceacademy.us I have here. Who's this? Try Peace Academy Austin and see what their URL is. Teachers Without Borders, National Police Academy, Peace Academy. Peace, I mean, not police. Peace. National Peace Academy takes a holistic approach to the development of the peace builder. What is this stuff?

47:45 About NPA about us. Who is this where peace builders go to grow? I want to grow who makes this who owns this was National yeah NPAs on and this it doesn't say I was just so frightening How about good God gov police academy gov? police peace Academy peace Academy God let's see who owns that It's a parking page, okay. They're not ready for us yet. Okay, well the way these work, these are the APacademy.org, that's the Austin. Austin P-A-C-E-A-D-A-P Academy.org, I don't know what the P is for. Oh, Austin Peace, okay. Austinpeaceacademy.org is theirs. It's accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools.

48:49 Thank you for your support and duas. Duas? I'm familiar with some of these terms but not that one. Salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah wa bakut. Dear parents of the... it has some Arabic thing here. And what website are you looking at? I'm looking at APacademy.org which is the one right down the street from you. I should go visit. Pay attention. Wow. All the girls are covered head to toe, not head to toe, just their faces are visible. As-Salaam-Alaikum. As-Salaam-Alaikum. Oh, alright. That looks pretty groovy. This is in Austin? Yeah. Who's on the board? Oh, it's a charter school. Okay, well that makes sense. That's what they... yeah, charter school. Ha. Uh-huh. So you can kind of do what you want. This seems kind of... doesn't seem like a big problem.

49:54 It's not a problem, I'm just telling you, it's a problem for the branding. Yeah, the branding is a real problem. I mean, it looks like peaceacademy.gov is a parking page, which makes no sense. Not for the government. The Department of Peace building will also serve as a depository for copies of all contracts agreements and treaties that address the reduction and elimination of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction and the protection of space from militarization. That was kind of interesting. And then we'll also have an Office of Human Rights and Economic Rights. This is what I was curious about, the economic rights.

50:40 The Assistant Secretary for Human Rights and Economic Rights shall assist the Secretary in consultation with the Secretary of State in furthering the incorporation of the principles of human rights as enunciated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by the United Nations General Assembly in 1948. So it's basically a New World Order thing. Yeah, no kidding. But I found the Peace Academy to be very disturbing. And that this, you know, and then you're in the academy, and you know, and you, and of course you are admitted into the academy if you have nowhere else to go. And that's why you have to spend five years in special service afterwards. So you, you know, you're down and out, you get picked up, you get, you know, you get taught how to keep the peace as a peacekeeper and peace builder, and then you actually do that for five years. It's just a load of garbage.

51:40 Okay, well I'm worried that these things will have this you know so today we celebrate 10 years of the Department of Homeland Security in 10 years from now will we be celebrating the 10th anniversary of the Department of Peace building? Yeah probably while we're being attacked. We will also, the Secretary will encourage citizens to observe and celebrate the blessings of peace and endeavor to create peace on Peace Days. Such days shall include discussions of the professional activities and achievements in the lives of peacemakers. Happy Peace Day, John.

52:19 Happy Peace Day to you. Would you like a piece of pie? Happy Peace Day, everybody. Let's talk about the lives and the important work of peace builders. I love when the blue helmets come to keep the peace. I feel safe. I love seeing some brown shirts walking around the streets because I feel safe. As long as I have my ID with me, I'm all good. Happy Peace Day. Sounds like a good ad. Well, I'm auditioning all the time. These people want to get it. We're really good at this stuff. Yeah, that's true, and then just repeat after your president Hi everybody. Hi everybody. Just repeat after your president. It's not hard so okay well I was hoping for more out of that, but really you didn't I thought the Peace Academy was the big deal for me the anti-gun thing yeah, I'm sorry I should have made something up you should have

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Maxine Waters, Sequestration Job Loss Claims

Representative Maxine Waters is criticized for a speech in which she claimed sequestration would result in the loss of 170 million jobs. The hosts point out that this figure exceeds the total number of people employed in the United States. They also mock her pronunciation of the word "sequestration."

maxine waters· sequestration· job losses· congress· ryan sequestration

53:19 It should have made something up. I mean it was one tidbit away. Yeah. Well, I think it would be like if you'd found some... it turns out that they were, you know, I don't know. I don't know. It's just not there. Okay, okay. Well then let me make up... Here's what I think. Because you already got your eye glued to this thing. Something's gonna happen. Let me make it up to you with a clip from Maxine Waters. Oh, well that's that brings it that that's always a 10-pointer. Okay, no matter what she says so So of course we are now in official USA for austerity mode. We have austerity now in the United States Well, we'll get the mac and cheese in a moment, but we have austerity and

54:06 And of course we still have to frighten the citizens about how incredibly scary this is that no one can get their crap together. Of course, this could change in one second. It's just the elites just messing with us. So here's ABC just to give you a little taste of what we're feeling here in Gitmo Nation of the United States. This is their promo for Deadline Day. Deadline Day, hours now until massive government cuts go into effect that could impact every American. Jobs vaporized, flights delayed, even criminals walking free. The president and Congress now blaming each other. Jobs vaporizing, criminals walking free, the walking dead rise and walk on the streets.

54:50 Unbelievable. These people have their nerves. Well, here's Maxine Waters and she's, you know, this job's vaporizing. She figures, now this is a good thing for me to scare the American public with. So this is a video, you can see this video in the show notes, 4902.nashownotes.com. And she's there with her staff behind her and her little lectern there talking about the sequestration is not good, we should not be doing this sequestration. Sequestration takes place. That's going to be a great setback. We don't need to be having something like sequestration that's going to cause these job losses over 170 million jobs. 170 million jobs, John!

55:37 100 and 70? Okay, before we go any further, just play Clip of the Week, because what an idiot. I just got to hear it again. Cause these job losses over 170 million jobs that could be lost. 100? We don't even have 170 million people working. Everyone's out of a job! 170 million and she says this on the floor of Congress and nobody nudges her and says hey. She's literally just standing there and she's reading. It probably said 170,000.

56:19 Yeah, the number of zeros is... I think it's... Having something like sequ... But I also like how she says... She mispronounces sequestration. You don't need to be having something like sequestration. Sequestration? Ryan's Seacrestration. Ryan's Seacrestration is horrible. It's going to cause these job losses of over 170 million. Ryan's Seacrestration everybody with American Idol. How you doing? What an idiot I mean, it's okay. I mean you can make mistakes. We make mistakes all the time Of course you have to but you know, then you're just kind of a whopper though. Yeah, but I mean she's so she's obviously just a shill a huge shill and doesn't she doesn't you know, I didn't give a crap about what she's saying She's one as long as she can stay in the game. And then so our president now everyone of course was was talking about the fact that and this was

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Barack Obama, Dictator Comment and Star Trek Gaffe

President Barack Obama's recent press conference is reviewed, specifically his comment, "I am not a dictator, I'm the president." The hosts analyze the phrasing and tone of the response to a CNN reporter's question. They also mention the media's focus on his confusion between the "Jedi mind trick" and the "Vulcan mind meld."

barack obama· cnn· dictator· jedi mind trick· vulcan mind meld

57:21 I have to say, it was kind of bad when you have a young, hip president and he makes a mistake. I can see where the mistake comes from, but he confuses the Jedi mind trick with the Vulcan mind meld. So of course that's the news. No one can talk about anything else. Leonard Nimoy, Liv Langer, that's the news. But there's a couple things in here. That sort of thing should only be on this show. What do you mean? Well, I mean that kind of thing, catching these blunders is perfect for this show. It's just a one second side gag. It's not like you don't get obsessed by it. And meanwhile, words really do matter. I think they really do matter.

58:11 I watched the entire news conference where he said that and this came from the following question from the CNN girl. Mr. President, to your question, what could you do, first of all, couldn't you just have them down here and refuse to let them leave the room until you have a deal? Is that a crazy question by the way? Can the president not do that? I mean he can do whatever he wants, can't he? He should just shoot her. Why? Is that a dumb question? The question she asked? Yeah. I don't think it's that dumb. No, but can the president, I mean he can, I mean he's the president, he can decide to kill someone with a drone so you know for the question to be well can't you just tell you know the members of Congress you know come to my office and I'm locking the door until he's figured this out. I think that's kind of a yes I think he could do that. You know. And then listen to his answer. Listen very carefully. I mean Jessica I

59:13 I am not a dictator, I'm the president. He sounds like he's remorseful. What kind of an answer is that? But listen to what he says, he says, I'm not a dictator, I'm only a president. It sounds like he's remorseful. Listen, listen, listen. I am not a dictator, I'm the president. Meaning, he's the president, who is the dictator? Is that Valerie Jarrett? If he said the, that would have worked. Who is the dictator of the United States of America? Anyway, so we get in this whole sequestration thing and he does what I feel is just about the lowest thing possible.

59:57 The lowest of all lows. So if you're going to say, OK, so how are we going to feel this, Mr. President? Now, the sequestration, the Ryan sequestration hits budget code zero five zero. I really looked into this because I'm interested in zero five zero is the national defense. So that's pretty much everything war. All things war on citizens outside the United States and inside. It's just war. It's the whole war machine. And that is what is being cut for 2013. Nothing, no other services for 2013. 14, 15, 16, 17, it starts to be divided. But for 13, it's only 050. It's very important. So it's only the military, not anything else.

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Military Budget Cuts, Sequestration Impact on Families

The hosts break down the specifics of the 2013 sequestration cuts, noting they primarily target budget code 050 (National Defense). They critique President Obama's rhetoric regarding the impact on military families and teachers on army bases. The discussion suggests the administration is using "guilt" and "scare tactics" to blame Republicans for the cuts.

department of defense· budget code 050· furloughs· border patrol· afghanistan

59:13 I am not a dictator, I'm the president. He sounds like he's remorseful. What kind of an answer is that? But listen to what he says, he says, I'm not a dictator, I'm only a president. It sounds like he's remorseful. Listen, listen, listen. I am not a dictator, I'm the president. Meaning, he's the president, who is the dictator? Is that Valerie Jarrett? If he said the, that would have worked. Who is the dictator of the United States of America? Anyway, so we get in this whole sequestration thing and he does what I feel is just about the lowest thing possible.

59:57 The lowest of all lows. So if you're going to say, OK, so how are we going to feel this, Mr. President? Now, the sequestration, the Ryan sequestration hits budget code zero five zero. I really looked into this because I'm interested in zero five zero is the national defense. So that's pretty much everything war. All things war on citizens outside the United States and inside. It's just war. It's the whole war machine. And that is what is being cut for 2013. Nothing, no other services for 2013. 14, 15, 16, 17, it starts to be divided. But for 13, it's only 050. It's very important. So it's only the military, not anything else.

1:00:42 So it's not teachers at your local school. If anyone says that, it's a lie because I read the document. It's a very complicated document, but section 251 of the Ryan Sequestration Act, 251A, that's where the Office of Management and Budget has laid out exactly what will be cut. So it's like $500 billion for budget code 050. For 10 years. Yeah, but it starts in 2013 only for the military. So the president can't say, oh well, your firefighters, your teachers and your local communities this year, it's going to happen right now. He can't say that. So he's going to go even lower than whale poop. I'll just give you an example. The Department of Defense right now has to figure out how the children of military families are going to

1:01:37 continue with their schooling over the next several months because teachers at these army bases are typically civilians. They are therefore subject to furlough, which means that they may not be able to teach. This is a stretch. It's like, okay, I got to get the teachers and kids on army bases. One day a week. And the kids, what? And we always have to remember that these cuts are only cuts of the proposed higher budget. So they still have the same money they had last year. Probably plus a little extra. But somehow they're getting a furlough, which is derived from the Dutch word for lof, which means day off.

1:02:22 one day a week, which of course would be great because that would actually give the kids on the army bases an opportunity to learn something, go out into the world and not be programmed by whatever crap they're being taught there by these teachers on the base. Now, I expect that we'll be able to manage around it. Oh. But how can you manage around it? I thought this was across the board cuts. What do you mean? We can we'll see this now This is already starting to smell if I'm a if I'm a man or woman or you in uniform in Afghanistan right now Oh, yeah, that's how you want to do you want to like let's pour the guilt on okay? we've got our men women in uniform and they're fighting for our freedom against the Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and you and now you're gonna put worry put worry into their hearts and

1:03:09 The notion that my spouse back home is having to worry about whether or not our kids are getting the best education possible. The notion that my school for my children on an army base might be disrupted because Congress didn't act. That's an impact. Now, this was supposed to be 7%, John? Yeah. But that family will. You know, the Border Patrol agents who are out there in the hot sun doing what Congress said they're supposed to be doing. Like checking for fruit flies and harassing you. Finding out suddenly... Is it the hot sun on the Vancouver border with Washington? Yes, that's the hot sun part. Finding out suddenly that they're getting a 10% pay cut. Oh, 10% pay cut, how does that work? It's seven! Sounds like they're gouging them. Having to go home and explain that to their families.

1:04:06 I don't think they feel like this is an exaggerated impact. So then he's talking about, he had like, this is classic. Yeah. No, but it's seen this bull crap before I find it by the way, Friday when this whole thing was, you know, okay, cause no one's going to do anything. Stock market goes up pretty much a new full time high. Yeah. 14,000 plus. Right? Yeah. What does that tell you well it means Bitcoin is good. Yeah, it's good for another week I think that Obama why here's the here's the report just to jump to this one play the clip. This is a clip from the from French 24 Vancat the Obama science paperwork

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Political Strategy of Sequestration, Defense Stock Performance

The hosts argue that President Obama successfully used sequestration to cut the military budget while shifting blame to Congressional Republicans. They note that despite warnings of economic damage, defense stocks like Raytheon and Boeing reached new highs following the signing of the cuts. The segment analyzes the "wasteful tax loophole" rhetoric used in the President's weekly address.

raytheon· boeing· barack obama· republicans· tax loopholes

1:04:56 I mean if Obama didn't want to do this, if he wasn't all in on this and it was his idea to begin with and then he gladly signed the paperwork, he must have seen it like this. Wow I get to finally cut the military budget, these guys are out of control. I'm gonna cut the military budget and I'm gonna blame the Republicans. This is a win-win for everyone as far as he's concerned. Why didn't he just not sign this document? Play the clip as it wraps it up from the French perspective. There were supposed to be cuts that would be so severe they'd force the government to come to a decision on its budget. But on Friday, US President Barack Obama signed into effect $85 billion of spending cuts after months of discussions failed to find a way to avoid them. Both domestic and defense spending is taking a huge hit, and Obama is warning it could damage the US economy. He's also pointing the finger of blame firmly on Republicans. Yeah.

1:05:50 So if anything, so here's where he put himself in a position. He got to cut the budget. By the way, when he began, he said he wanted to cut the military budget. It was out of control. So he manages to cut the military budget. Not a big cut, but it's a cut. Set himself up to not be the bad even though it's all his idea not be the bad guy He signed off on it now. He can blame the Republicans if things go go bad, and if things go well He'll take all the credit you want you know I ride was a good idea was about course it was my idea Yeah, I mean he's absolutely as a politician here. I think he's played very well I think is very I think is genius. Yeah, he's a no-lose for him and

1:06:31 But here's the thing, did you hear his little talk? Yeah, his weekly address where it's not even Republicans, it's Republicans in Congress. Yeah, well play the, play the, here's, I have a, I have a cut at a certain spot and then I continue it because there's something he says in this speech that goes, I go, what, what, what could this possibly be? Is this a scare tactic? Yeah. Now it's important to understand that while not everyone will feel the pain of these cuts right away, the pain will be real. Many middle-class families will have their lives disrupted in a significant way. Beginning this week, businesses that work with the military will have to lay folks off.

1:07:14 Communities near military bases will take a serious blow. Hundreds of thousands of Americans who serve their country, border patrol agents, FBI agents, civilians who work for the Defense Department, will see their wages cut and their hours reduced. This will cause a ripple effect across the economy. Businesses will suffer because customers will have less money to spend. The longer these cuts remain in place, the greater the damage. Economists estimate they could eventually cost us more than 750,000 jobs and slow our economy by over one half of 1%. Here's the thing. None of this is necessary. It's happening because Republicans in Congress chose this outcome over closing a single wasteful tax loophole that helps reduce the deficit. What is that single wasteful tax loophole? I think this is another example. He does this. We caught him saying something similar, I think, on the last show.

1:08:11 where it sounds like he's saying one thing but he's actually saying another because if there is no single he does I think he does it on purpose he makes it sound as though there's a single thing just one single little loophole these crummy Republicans wouldn't close the crummy Republicans in Congress because they wouldn't close this one but when you parse it He's actually saying, and I think he does this on purpose because I've noticed it before, we've done tough stuff on this before. What he's really saying is they wouldn't close even, he left a word out, even one single thing amongst a plethora of things, they wouldn't even do one thing.

1:08:53 But the way it comes across is though they wouldn't do this one thing which was minor and if they had done this one thing then all would be well. And I think he does, I'm totally convinced now because we've heard this way too often that he's doing this on purpose to make it sound, because it makes it even more, it really makes you hate the Republicans because of this one crummy thing is all they had to do and you'd think that the second, that he'd follow up with what this crummy thing was and so when you play the second part of this right at that point, part two, there's no explanation of this one thing. Just this week they decided that protecting special interest tax breaks for the well-off and well-connected is more important than protecting our military and middle-class families from these cuts. I still believe we can and must replace these cuts with a balanced approach.

1:09:42 one that combines smart spending cuts with entitlement reform and changes to our tax code that make it more fair for families and businesses without raising anyone's tax rates. That's how we can reduce our debt. Essentially when they did this deal to begin with they've already compromised on that and they already raised the tax, they're gonna raise them again? So how come if this is so bad for the military-industrial complex, why is Raytheon up from $53 a month ago to you know like $55 now. Why is everything going up? Why is it all going up? At Raytheon you think that they'd be impacted. This bull crap is what's going up and these guys all know it. How about Boeing? You know it's like this is

1:10:30 Again a game that we're not in where's this you know if the stocks had crashed on Friday the market gunned into the tank Then yeah, okay, well this wasn't a good thing, but it didn't it went up and Boeing's up It's gonna continue to go up for a while It's not gonna crash under any circumstances. This is a bogus this whole thing is bullcrap Boeing Boeing's up and and they half their planes suck and You mean the plastic ones? Yeah, only the, well of course, only the, that's half. Only the plastic planes are no good. Sheep meant a little river, it's rock. But they're up! Everybody's up, there's a bonanza! Donations? Mwah! Yeah, the only thing that's going, Obama's right! We're getting killed here! Well here, here of course, go to crack.org slash NAPleagues. Time for our segment!

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

NPR Mac and Cheese Report, Food Subsidies

An NPR report featuring nutritionist Barry Popkin is mocked for suggesting that boxed macaroni and cheese is a more efficient and cost-effective meal than fresh fruit. The hosts criticize the segment for normalizing the consumption of artificial cheese and chemicals due to government subsidies for processed food ingredients.

npr· mac and cheese· barry popkin· food subsidies· nutrition

1:11:18 You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Cheap macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. So I don't know what it is, somehow we ride on the consciousness of of the universe but and maybe it's maybe it is because you know we we bought a three-speed bike and now you see three-speed bikes riding around everywhere but I just can't get away from it now. Oprah Winfrey opens up about the time she was depressed and scarfed down 30 pounds of mac and cheese. Okay so that's Oprah Winfrey but now if we had a story about mac and cheese in a cup in a mug on NPR on Thursday

1:12:01 Oh, but they're not stopping. Oh no, no, no! Let's return to something we've been chewing on from an earlier story in our On The Run series. In Monday's report, Araceli Flores made this observation. I could buy a box of macaroni and cheese for a dollar. A bunch of bananas will cost me over a dollar. Strawberries are four dollars. A bag of apples is going to cost me five dollars. I mean, way more pricier to buy vegetables and fruits than it is to buy boxed food. Yes, it's true. The guy you heard at the end there is Barry Popkin. He's a nutritionist and economist at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. He explained why that's true. Now notice in this report, you will not hear anyone say, it's probably better to eat the fruit. This is better than a box. This isn't even real cheese. This is the cheapest, the cheapest classic.

1:12:53 Garbage! Well, here it is. We have a process package food industry which is enormously efficient. It takes a little bit of wheat, it takes a little bit of artificial cheese, it uses lots of chemicals, flavors, and it makes these magical tasty foods. Dinner! How is this guy a spokesman? Well, he's the nutritionist. I don't understand him through his lisp. Well, he's going to tell you why this is so much better to have some wheat, some artificial cheese and some chemicals. You're just going to defend this? Kind of. are very inexpensive. It's inexpensive.

1:13:48 NPR telling you that it's obvious why we like mac and cheese and why we want more of it. So one, it's only $1 and you can't even get a banana for a dollar. The time it takes to cook a mac and cheese is very short. It's it's it's cut cooks in the microwave and it fills you up and it fills you up time it takes to cut up the strawberries to cut up the fruit to make it easy it adds time it takes so long. You're eating mac and cheese you got nothing but time on your hands. You're kidding. I got no time to cut the strawberry give me a minute. Man I gotta eat mac and cheese and get out of here. I'm in a hurry I'll eat it in the car honey.

1:14:36 The other side is getting it from the farmer all the way through to the store, keeping it looking good and not having it spoiled takes a lot of refrigeration, takes a lot of complex steps that are very expensive. He says another factor is a long history of government subsidies for food production, but not so much for fruits and veggies. Oh, she said it too! Veggies. Veggies. Screw your veggies, slave. Have your- Veggies? I got veggies here. Screw your veggies. Have your mac and cheese. You're in a hurry. Get to your work. Eat your mac and cheese in a mug on the way. Well, there is solace. This is becoming a regular show report. The mac and cheese report. We get a jingle. Sir Jeff Smith, where's our mac and cheese report?

1:15:28 Well, we need to make it a little different than just mac and cheese report has to be living the life of like thug life You know like Tupac thug life. It'd be like mac and cheese life. You know I mean, it's like it was something like that Mac and cheese so just when you thought what an idiot that was the worst Example of anything I've ever heard from NPR. Oh people listen to this as it's some sort of national treasure Yeah, so humiliation. Yeah, it's shameful well luckily So what's next on the ladder when you can't afford mac and cheese? It's only a dollar. Well, no, no, but what is cheaper than mac and cheese? I guess picking up cigarette butts from the street and eating them. No idea. Cat food. What's cheaper than mac and cheese is the question of the show. Cat food. Cat food is pretty pricey. No, you can get cat food for 69 cents, a can, but let's say you can't even afford cat food. Then we have this.

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Pet Food Stamps, Cat Food Mac and Cheese Recipe

A news report on "Pet Food Stamps" for financially strapped families leads to a satirical discussion about cooking cat food with macaroni and cheese. John C. Dvorak offers culinary advice on using marjoram and bay leaves to mask the smell of cheap cat food. The hosts joke about the shiny hair benefits of such a diet during tough economic times.

pet food stamps· cnn· marjoram· culinary tips· poverty

1:16:29 During tough economic times many families are forced to give up their pets because they can't afford to feed them but a new program could help. Shut up, don't talk through the clip. They can't afford to feed them but a new program could help. It's called Pet It's called Pet Food Stamps. The donation-based program can help financially strapped families afford to buy pet food and supplies. The organization is open to anyone in the US. You just have to apply to see if you qualify. That's right. I got a pet. I got a whole bunch of cats and dogs at home. Can I have some Pet Food Stamps, please? Where did you get that clip? You're killing me with these. That's from the news, man. That's CNN.

1:17:06 So obviously people are rejoicing like wow yeah, so hey give me that jacket. Let me roll on the cat hairs over here Yeah, we got a whole bunch of cats. We're taking care of I think I need some cat food stamps Free Cat food and then use the stamps to buy the cat food, then you eat it That is pretty cheap Maybe, maybe. What if, I guarantee you, you want a meal for depression? Cat food mac and cheese, all in one. Like, we'll call it tuna a la king. It's a gourmet version of the mac and cheese. Tuna a la king. I'm gonna make this, I'm gonna make this, I'm gonna serve it to my guests here. I'm gonna see if I can get away with it. I am going to make

1:18:01 the cat food mac and cheese and I know for a fact that I could pull that off I'm sure you could I mean you're better cook than I am but I'd like to try it I really like to try and people be like wow this is really nice wanted to retest it properly I mean instead of trying to you know use some you know aged cheddar from England and making a fan fancy pasta we got we got to do with the one dollar box yeah you have to do with the one dollar box and that cheapest cat food you can buy that You probably have to buy, I think you have to test this part. You'll have, this is my advice to you. You get, you go to the, look for the 69 cent cat food and then you buy every type of it. Yeah. You got to test, you got to work them all up and do a smell test. And the one that doesn't stink to high heaven is the one you use in this dish. Yeah. You know what? My hair will be all shiny. So,

1:18:58 There must be some kind of spice that we can use to cover up better than ever what? There must be some herb or herb or spice that we can use that a little Universal herb for these sorts of things that particular thing herb I use marjoram Marjoram yeah, I think marjoram marjoram has become my choice. What is marjoram? Yeah, marjoram. How do you spell that? Marj o r a m marjoram is sits somewhere in between the the qualities of oregano without the possibility oregano occasionally depending on which oregano you have because they come from different parts of the world but oregano will occasionally if you use just a pinch too much turn something bitter it'll turn like a spaghetti sauce bitter it never this works fine on pizza but with the spaghetti sauce you have to be real careful because it goes bitter and then you have to fight it you got to put honey and butter and you screwed you screwed

1:19:55 You can use this stuff by the handful, by the bushel. You can take a jar of it and dump it in. And I buy it by two pound batches. Marjoram. I use it as my salad herb. Indigenous to Cyprus and Southern Turkey. Known to the Greeks and Romans as a symbol of happiness. That's right, happy mac and cheese. But marjoram is a great, great all-purpose. And when you can get it fresh, even better. Okay, so you think that's what I should be putting in the in the cat food? I'm gonna try I am a little basil to a basil leaf No, here's what you do. Here's we do you as you're serving it as you're plopping out from a big vat This you have to make it look good, but it's a big vat for that. Tell me something's gotta be a fan copper copper Yeah, but you're lopping out this cat food and mac and cheese and you say oh careful There might be a bay leaf still in there

1:20:49 You know what I mean? That kind of gives it... Well, bay leaf is different than a basil leaf, but a bay leaf... You should get a basil leaf and put it on top as a decoration, but you should probably put a bay leaf in there and then, oh, here it is. It gives that kind of that whole... A magic act. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean for you to get the bay leaf. You know, it's that little thing that I add to my tuna a la king. I actually pull that off. I actually it might be worth experimenting with though. It might actually be very tasty. You can make anything taste good. Yeah. During the French Revolution, the French developed a whole slew of recipes on how to prepare properly and eat rat.

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Der Spiegel, German Dream and Gastarbeiter

The hosts examine a Der Spiegel report titled "The German Dream," which details the influx of southern European workers from Greece, Spain, and Italy into Germany. They question the validity of the report's claim that these migrants are finding high-level marketing management jobs. The term "gastarbeiter" (guest worker) is discussed in the context of the modern European economy.

der spiegel· germany· gastarbeiter· migrant workers· greece

1:21:35 Because parrots eat a lot of rats, so there's more than enough protein to keep people alive. Well, rats are great. I agree. Rats are good. And it turns out you cook them a little bit like a rabbit. And it's just a dressing of them. You gotta skin them and do other things. It's just the idea. We're just all trained. That's disgusting! Well, it's not disgusting. Rat head soup! It's not disgusting. It's just a little... Nice, nice, nice. Alright, back to you. Back to you, good buddy. Okay, I got one. So I'm... I thought this was a weird story. I don't know what to make of it and I don't have any follow-up even in the discussion way, but why is this even happening? It just seems weird. This odd story, which I got from VanCat, odd story about German and marketing.

1:22:24 Well, let's look at one final magazine from outside of France. It's Germany's Der Spiegel. Well, as coincidence would have it, this is also about migrant workers and the Der Spiegel there, you can see Gastarbeiter. The new guest workers and the German magazine is saying that there is actually a trend now from people from southern Europe, from Spain, Catalonia, but also Greece and Portugal and Italy to go to the big cities in Germany, Berlin, Stuttgart and so on, to get jobs, you know, as a marketing manager or in engineering or so on, because they just can't get them.

1:23:01 in their own countries. Now you can see a profile of one of the people who has gone off to be a marketing manager in Berlin. Now it's got the statistics 32,000 Italians, 26,000 Greeks, 27,000 Spaniards in the first three quarters of last year. So a trend there and its headlines that story is the German dream. So, of course we've heard a lot of anti-German rhetoric from Southern Europe, but there from Der Spiegel we have the German dream. Alright, thanks for that. Nicolas? Well, very interesting. So the term that I liked was gastarbeiter, which I grew up with in the 70s in the Netherlands, and the Dutch version is very close, it's gastarbeiter, and it is guest worker. This is a very common concept. Before it was Europe. Now all of a sudden it's like, oh, you're a guest in Europe.

1:23:51 Because you're in the German part of Europe. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense in itself, but I'm just imagining 26,000 Greeks in the first quarter are now marketing managers in Germany. What? This doesn't even make any sense to me. Why are they marketing managers? Is that a code for some ditch digger? I'm not getting it. No, they're marketing Greek holidays in their own home. Oh. Yeah. I'm sure it's something like that. Well, I don't know what it is, but that would be weird. Yeah, I know what you mean because they do have these parts of Europe. They have a strange, yeah, you basically move in with a family for vacation. Yeah, and then you're a marketing, I mean, come on, how many people have you met? What do you do? I'm a marketing manager. Oh, okay. Mac and cheese. Yeah. I mean, come on. Marketing manager means nothing. Here, marketing management jobs in Germany. Let's see.

1:24:54 It must be a slew of jobs. Yeah, marketing manager, group auto. Seems like there's jobs. Well, of course, part of why this is happening, the German dream. Like, wow, that was pretty eye-opening right there. It used to be the American dream. Now it's... Didn't we beat those guys? Yes, I thought, but I guess not. So here's what was happening in Portugal over the weekend. There was no comment from the authorities on numbers, but this looks to have been the largest protest since last September's huge rallies, which were followed by a government U-turn on one controversial tax policy.

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Portugal Anti-Austerity Protests, EU Debt

Massive protests in Lisbon, Portugal, are highlighted as citizens demonstrate against government austerity measures and EU-mandated debt. The hosts describe the movement as a "disparate movement driven by anger" against corrupt politicians and bankers. They argue that the media in the Western world is suppressing coverage of these protests to prevent similar unrest elsewhere.

portugal· lisbon· austerity· european union· bailout

1:25:37 At the Lisbon demonstration, the wide range of slogans and homemade placards would seem to indicate this remains a disparate movement driven by anger. I am here to protest against this government, which is determined to pay a debt that isn't ours. It is criminal and illegal. It is forcing us to feed on bread and water and forcing us to pay a debt which is created by corrupt politicians and bankers. So this is very dangerous. What I saw, and I think she actually mentioned this in the report, this is not organized by unions. These are people who are taking bed sheets and paint and magic marker and writing on it, you know, death you banker.

1:26:22 death to the politicians and it was a lot of people. Of course you didn't see any of this in most of the civilized western world because we don't want to give you slaves any ideas. But I think that this is very disheartening and frightening to most politicians because this is the mob that can really get out of control. And they're onto it. I mean, they know what's going on. This is not just, you know, they say, hey, you stole from us. You gave us a debt that we don't deserve to pay back, that you're all corrupt, and we're not going to take it. Whether they're entirely right or not is irrelevant. And it has no interest in the working class. For many, the fact that the government has got it wrong on the economy and even the deficit, the whole aim of the spending cuts and tax rises that are causing all the pain, makes them fear still more for the future. I am here to fight for the future of my two daughters. Things are very complicated at this time.

1:27:20 International officials are currently in Lisbon reviewing Portugal's bailout progress. Saturday's protesters not only demanded that they leave, but that the government resign and that Portugal's debt be renegotiated to give its economy a chance to grow again. I was just going to say, Portugal is doing fine. until they were scammed into this, you know, take all his money. Here are a bunch of, you're on the EU now and we want you to get up to speed here as a country. So here, take all his money and spend it. We don't care. Build an airport that we won't use. And build a road that no one's gonna drive on. Well, actually the road is in Spain, but it's actually Spain and Portugal. They threw a bunch of money at him and they said, okay, I got all this money, let's spend it. And now let's get the economy cranked up. No, no, no, you gotta pay us back now. What? Yeah.

1:28:12 Oh and by the way you leverage your entire all your all your utility. Yeah you define free which is gave us the country. Yeah you by the way did that own that. So it's funny I'm looking at an article from the Spiegel from April 2012 and it's saying young Greeks struggle to gain foothold in Berlin. 25,000 new Greek immigrants registered with German authorities twice as many as in 2010 so it's stagnant. It hasn't grown apparently, it's still 25,000 or maybe it's the same 25,000 but they're having a hard time finding jobs, hard to gain a foothold. So I think it sounds to me like that whole report was full of crap. Well that's what I said, that's why I thought it was so weird. It probably was full of crap, I never thought about that. So I have a couple of clips before the break.

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

Too Big to Fail, General Motors Bailout

The concept of "too big to fail" is revisited using the failure of Lehman Brothers as a case study. The hosts question why the term is applied to banks but rarely to industrial giants like General Motors. They suggest that political ties to unions, such as the SEIU and UAW, protect certain corporations from being dismantled.

lehman brothers· general motors· too big to fail· unions· seiu

1:29:08 that I wanted to play. One is, I've thought about something interesting. Play this, there was a nice seminar at the American Enterprise Institute about this guy and his book which I mentioned earlier. And he's talking about here, he's talking here about the idea of too big to fail which brought something to mind that I want to discuss for a second. I have no idea which clip I'm supposed to play. Crisis clips too big to fail. Well, Notion? Yeah. I've written a lot about this and we don't have a really good way of evaluating whether an institution is too big to fail. But what we do know, I think, now, after Lehman's failure, is that an institution that is $600 billion in size, and that was Lehman, is not too big to fail.

1:30:08 Because Lehman actually dragged no other institution down with it. And that is the whole idea about too big to fail. That is, the theory is that if a large institution fails, the losses that are suffered by all others who have lent money to that institution will be so large that they will all be dragged down. That's why the FSOC is given the authority to make this decision about what institutions are interconnected. But when Lehman failed, no other institution failed as a result of that. Yeah, that was a hit. They took a hit out on Lehman Brothers. Wasn't that what happened? Yeah, but it would do what that's not what I was when I was listening to this clip I got another kind of I just all of a sudden it dawned on me wasn't the bailout of General Motors for this exact same reason?

1:30:59 Yeah. But nobody has ever equated all these things with general industry, with banking. I mean it's always banking, too big to fail, these banks are too big to fail. What about General Motors? It's apparently too big to fail. Ford, all these giant corporations, US Steel maybe. Maybe they should maybe they instead of talking about the banks all the time and how they should be busted up even though we've nationalized them as they talk about in this apparently the government's taking over everything and by the way They're buying an awful lot of land to these the feds. Oh, yeah, but why don't they talk about busting up General Motors? It used to be you know 30 different car companies that were all put together. You know the answer You know the answer to that the answer is the auto workers union use it says that the auto workers union were a big part

1:31:43 The unions in general have always run the modern societies and they run this president. You will agree on that. I think that runs this president as the service workers. Like hookers? I'd say SEIU. I think that's the bad actor in the whole thing, personally. Anyway, there's one more clip here we can do, which is an interesting one. This is the guy who wrote the book again, and this is the crisis clip, 25 million bad loans. He, and we were talking about the media earlier, and that crappy NPR presentation that you found somehow, where they're telling people that it's better to eat mac and powder cheese, it's not even real cheese, than a banana, because some guys- It's faster.

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, Subprime Mortgage Data

Testimony from the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission (FCIC) reveals that there were 28 million low-quality mortgages in the system by 2008. The hosts discuss how the media ignored this data, focusing instead on derivatives. They attribute the housing bubble to government meddling via the Community Reinvestment Act and the repeal of Glass-Steagall.

fcic· subprime mortgages· community reinvestment act· bill clinton· dodd-frank

1:32:34 Anyway, this clip I think is a very interesting, which is not something we don't talk about and harp on on the show all the time, but people should be made, always be made aware of this problem. I had a particularly remarkable experience with this problem while a member of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission. The commission scheduled several public hearings which were televised on C-SPAN. The media were almost always present as observers or were watching the proceedings on television. In several of the hearings, I asked witnesses whether they were aware that there were 25 million and other low-quality, subprime and other low-quality mortgages in the financial system in 2008, before the financial crisis.

1:33:22 That was the number I had at the time. Since then, and Pidno's work has shown that there were in fact 28 million such low-quality mortgages in 2008. All the witnesses who were asked this, and in all the cases they were people who should have known, said they had never heard of such a thing. The fact that 25 million subprime or other non-prime mortgages were in the financial system in 2008, again, almost half of all mortgages, was undoubtedly news. I might have been wrong, but it was news that I said it. It had never been reported before and it is a shocking number.

1:34:02 Yet I have never found a single reference to it in any major media report on the FCIC hearings where I made the statement. And I never recall receiving a call from a reporter asking me where I'd come up with that number. Wait a minute. You're telling me that the whole subprime thing was Bogotov 2? No, it was a real number. No, he's saying there's all these subprime numbers, but nobody during that period when they were investigating the crash they were blaming it on the derivatives and the you know credit default swaps and these bad you know this is the bad bad mortgage investment but they never talked about the basis at all and apparently the news media never picked it up and he never managed to even get called nobody cared it was just like here's the base and he blames the whole thing by the way on the Community Reinvestment Act where it was it was

1:35:05 which I believe is put in by Clinton, that the banks, every bank has to provide proof that they're making, getting everybody a house whether they can afford it or not. And then doing really lax clearance. In other words, when you filled out your mortgage application, you could lie on it and then get yourself a cheap, you know, a house that supposedly will pay for itself because it's going to go up in value. Right. And when that stalled, then the whole thing collapsed because it was a house of cards. And He's just saying that he tracked this during the hearings and all these people, they didn't give a shit. I just found it to be a weird oversight by the media. In fact, when it comes to the Community Reinvestment Act, only a few right-wing guys, I think Beck might have been one of them, ever even mentioned this.

1:35:56 Explain the Community Reinvestment Act again. It was a bill that was, you can look it up, Bill Bikes. I know but people listen to this show. I just explained it. Clinton passed this law. forced the banks to give mortgages to people that were essentially subprime or that they didn't really qualify for that mortgage. They gave them a break, they had to maybe pay a little too much interest or whatever but it was a it was a it was a movement to crop up the housing in this country create a which started to create the bubble. 1977. Yeah, and it well it started to steamroll after a bunch of after the Fed lowered the interest rates and there's a whole series of things you'd have to listen to this whole seminar to kind of pick up on it but it was a it was mostly government meddling from the beginning starting with that the Community Reinvestment Act the one that Clinton put in which wasn't in 77 is in 90 something

1:36:58 Once this thing got, started steamrolling and then the feds right at the wrong time lowered the interest rates because the economy wasn't doing that well. And this thing, the bubble got huge and then it collapsed and we ended up with this massive situation. These guys concluded by the way that we should have let everybody go out of business that was going to go out of business including Citibank. let just take it you know if we would have lasted as long as it is lasted if we had just you know bit the bullet then but nobody wanted to do that either their government essentially based on what these guys say with the regulation and Dodd-Frank in particular have essentially nationalized the banking system in an awkward way in fact you want to I think there may be a slight explanation for it in this clip Obamacare and the banking clip

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Dodd-Frank and Obamacare, Crony Capitalism

The hosts compare the Dodd-Frank Act to Obamacare, arguing that both laws turn private industries into "wards of the government" through heavy regulation. They discuss the role of the Financial Stability Oversight Council (FSOC) in designating Systemically Important Financial Institutions (SIFIs). This designation is characterized as the essence of crony capitalism, giving the Federal Reserve control over private corporate policy.

dodd-frank· obamacare· federal reserve· sifi· crony capitalism

1:37:47 And by the way, the original act was 1977 and it was amended many times throughout its history, but most prevalent in 93, 95 and 99 is where Clinton, even right along with the Graham-Leach with the Glass-Steagall repeal act. Right. All a part of that. And now, which, I don't see an Obamacare thing. What are you talking about? This is a crisis of Obamacare and banking clip. Oh, yeah, okay, sorry. Hard for me to read. One other thing I'd like to mention that John sort of inferentially touched on, and that was the importance of Dodd-Frank.

1:38:32 as a legislation that takes over an industry. People have not, the book covers this, but people have not noticed that this is very much like Obamacare. In Obamacare the same thing was done and that is the industry is left in private hands The shareholders are still in charge, theoretically, but the industry is so heavily regulated that it has become basically a ward of the government. So there are two, these two major provisions that were passed under the Obama administration both have the same characteristics.

1:39:14 Hi everybody. Hi everybody. Hi everybody. Hi everybody. So play the Fed and crony capitalism clip while we're on it. Listen to these guys. Hester talked about SIFIs and referred to them as the biggest issue. I believe that's true. That is the thing we have to look at most carefully. That is the area that creates the greatest danger here. I didn't talk about it in my talk, but I spent a lot of time on it in the book.

1:39:50 Um, as a, as a foundation for crony capitalism, there is nothing better, nothing greater, nothing more dangerous than what has been done, um, with, with the FSOC, the Financial Stability Oversight Council. It will now have the opportunity to declare that certain non-bank financial institutions are dangers to the financial system and have to be stringently regulated. What that will mean over time is more and more of those institutions are pulled into that select category is that the Fed will have an opportunity to control what those institutions say or do on all matters of public policy.

1:40:34 And if one of those institutions should suggest that they oppose the administration on some issue, whether it's a tax issue or it's a trade issue or something else, there will be a discreet warning from the Fed that, well, you know, maybe you could tone that down a bit. We really don't have to have this kind of controversy. That's really not working for us. See, do we? That kind of message to the CEO is the very essence of crony capitalism and will be made possible by the Fed's control over all these other large institutions just as it has that kind of control right now. This is why I'm all... we had good clips by the way. We had a guest over here yesterday. Do you know who Lori Frick is? No. She's an artist in Austin, but she

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Systemically Important Financial Institutions, Economic Collapse

A discussion with artist and former tech executive Lori Frick touches on the inevitability of an economic collapse. The hosts argue for "ripping the band-aid off" rather than sustaining the current system of SIFIs and government partnerships. They define the current state of US corporatism as a form of fascism where regulators have an incentive to rescue failing entities to hide their own failures.

sifi· vignette· lori frick· corporatism· fascism

1:41:23 She used to be an executive at Vignette and then she sold her own company to Vignette. She did a TED talk and she's been around. She's kind of like a techno nerdy type woman, artist, interesting. And so she comes over because she and Mickey had met somewhere in the art scene. And, you know, we're talking about this, you know, she's like, you know, do you really believe what you say on the podcast? And I'm like, yeah. She said, I mean, are you are you saying that you really want a big collapse in Armageddon because you believe it or because it sounds good for the podcast? And I said, yes.

1:42:09 And she was like, I really mean it. It would, I'm all for paying now, rip the band-aid off. Just let's go for it people. We've got our most- Well that last clip was about SIFIs, which are something that's been defined as a systemically important financial institution and control over these, which is too big to fail operations. than control over these, and by the way this is not just banks that's the problem. No, no, it's insurance companies, anything. But it could be a manufacturer of anything. I think that's why I thought that other clip was interesting because it actually tells me it's also General Motors. Or how about if it's General Motors it could be General Electric, if it's General Electric it can be, because they get all kinds. Boeing. Boeing. If it's that then it's also media.

1:42:58 Now, the thing that Dodd-Frank does is it gives control over all of these entities to the Fed. Yes! Which is not a government organization. It is the bankers. Hello? New World Order, where are you? Hold on a second, let's just play it. Come on. Come on. John's figuring it out. We control your company! Shut up, Steve. Duh. There you go. That's how it works. So the woman who was on here actually talks about Siffy's a little bit. She also talks about... It sounds like an STD. No, it sounds like the Siths. It sounds like a bad actor in... I got Siffy's. Star Wars. Oh man, I got a bad case of the Siffy's. You might as well play the What's Going On With The Siffy's. Where's the... What's going on? Where do I find this now? It's right there in the same group.

1:43:57 Crisis oh yeah, here it is. It's like a venereal disease. Starting the book in this way by focusing on the GSEs was very helpful because I think it lays out a model for what we're going to see with Dodd-Frank, the future that Dodd-Frank has created for us, which is a future of GSEs. The GSEs in Dodd-Frank are SIFIs, Systemically Important Financial Institutions, which include banks designated under Dodd-Frank as SIFIs and then any additional entities that the Financial Stability Oversight Council designates as GSEs, as SIFIs. So these institutions will have an implicit guarantee from the government

1:44:43 They will be in partnership with the government. The government will tell them what to do and they'll respond. Partnership! Partnership! This is fantastic! This is corporatism, this is fascism. This is totally it. Just cooperate and share everybody's information. You don't want to get siffies. Peter points out this will lead to a funding advantage that will then drive competitors out of the market. Funding advantage? Hold on a second. Wow, funding advantage. Whoa! They get a funding advantage, drives competitors out, goodbye mechanics bank. Oh yeah, oh no, no. Done. And those guys, that's our bank by the way, and they didn't take any bailout money. So they're gonna be, they're gonna catch the sissies. Target it, target it. If there are problems at these entities, regulators will have a real incentive to

1:45:33 to come in and rescue them, probably in sort of a behind-the-scenes rescue, because a failure of one of these entities would reflect failure of the regulators. And so Peter points out all of these problems that we can expect. Oh, yeah, this is bad. This is very, very bad. But it's what it is, you know, it makes sense. So this is why I say rip the band-aid off. It all has to come crashing down. You know, you can laugh, but I'm gonna be enjoying my wooden money at the market. And I'm gonna be happy I got some wood, wooden, wooden money. Since we're kind of talking about, you know, Clinton and actually this act that goes way back to the 70s where a lot of this started.

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

Operation Mockingbird, CIA Media Infiltration

The hosts reinvigorate the term "Mockingbird" to describe CIA infiltration of the American media. They play a classic clip from the Church Commission hearings where CIA officials refuse to disclose the extent of their payroll within major television networks. The segment links media control to the broader influence of the Federal Reserve and global banking families.

operation mockingbird· cia· church commission· frank church· federal reserve

1:46:19 It's time to revisit I keep hearing it a lot in in my alternative news circles But it is time to reinvigorate on this show the term mockingbird Are you familiar with operation mockingbird? I was until what they deprogrammed you I forgot operation mockingbird was the CIA media infiltration program where they hired agents. We haven't used the word Mockingbird and I think it's time to reinstate it because Mockingbird is talking to us on a daily basis through the telescreen. And just to remind you, because all of this is declassified and by now it's out in the open, you can google around. I got some links in the show notes. You can find out exactly what it was. But the real evidence which is nice is from the church commission

1:47:12 that would be Frank Church, the Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligent Activities, where he literally asked this in a congressional hearing and you will hear the answer regarding the... Classically. Yeah, it's a classic. It is an evergreen. Do you have any people being paid by the CIA who are contributing to a major circulation American journal? We do have people who submit pieces to American journals. Do you have any people by the CIA who are working for television networks?

1:48:06 This I think gets into the kind of getting into the details Mr. Chairman that I'd like to get into an executive session. Yeah, we don't want the slaves to have it on tape. We don't want this. Here's the way it goes. Do you have any people on the payroll of NBC, ABC or CBS? You know, we better talk about that in some executive session. Yeah. Well, there's your answer. It's a classic clip. And we need to bring back the term mockingbird because mockingbird is Anderson Pooper is mockingbird. Aaron Burnett is mockingbird. The drunk Sawyer is mockingbird. They're all mockingbird. And when you bring the Siffies into it, there is so much control over all these corporations.

1:48:49 Yeah, well it's corporatism again and that's a SIFI thing and the other which he uses a GSE as you mentioned which is a government sponsored enterprise enterprise which is essentially was GM for a while. Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac. Freddie Mac all those things that you know supposedly private but they're not to run by the government. They're essentially nationalizing the banks, they being the administration with the feds. No, the fed is the banks, John. The fed is the banks. They're nationalizing their own little business. That's the disgusting part. Well that could be that the banks are running things but I... Here's John. Well it could be that the banks are running things. The banks are running things? Hello?

1:49:40 Yes, but who's running the banks? The Jews of course. You know the answer to this. That's always the answer. No, I think it's more organic than that. Intelligence agencies. Yeah, well, so you're saying the intelligence agencies are running the banks? Well, it's a hard one to do because you don't see any connection. No, I'm not so sure. I mean, I think it's just families. I think it boils down to families who've always financed the wars, financed everything. And it's a great little scam they've got going on here with the Federal Reserve celebrating its 100th year this year. You know, where it's like, hey,

1:50:28 We don't, you know, there's no risk to us. We control everything and now with the Siffy thing they control the companies. And not only that but they're too big to fail because they're Siffy's. Yeah, so I, you know, so I think, I mean isn't, look at what we've had, it used to be royalty. Mickey and I were talking about this the other day. I still don't get it. I can't look at the queen or the king or the prince and go, oh yeah, you're special. No, you're just a douchebag like me. You poop, you know, and your poop stinks. And you're not special because you live in a palace. Who gives you the right to live in a palace? To me, it doesn't make sense as a sovereign citizen. It makes no sense. So the same thing goes for everything and everybody. And then obviously whoever has the money, whoever's got the wooden nickels runs the show. And we don't even know officially who is a member of the Federal Reserve. Gee, I'd call that suspicious.

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Listener Donations, Alternative Media Tax

A lengthy donation segment features contributions from listeners across the US and Canada. The hosts discuss the risk of PayPal cutting off their account and the importance of direct support. Notable mentions include an "Alternative Media Tax" (AMT) donation and various requests for "karma" and "de-douching" jingles.

paypal· alternative media tax· karma· de-douching· value for value

1:51:29 Yeah, well there's a it would be nice to know I Will one thing I know where our paycheck comes from I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun What would happen if they cut off our PayPal account? Oh, well like okay first of all put it in the red book. They will cut off our PayPal account That is definitely going to happen no doubt about it. That's gonna. I could that is so I'm just waiting I'm waiting for that call where you say oh, man

1:52:08 Oh man, they cut off our paper and we didn't get the money out. You watch! Of course this will happen. Someone's gonna get pissed off enough, we're gonna say something, probably me, and someone's gonna put in a call. Hey, it could be me! No, you're not nasty enough. And it's gonna happen, of course it's gonna happen. And then that's when my two donation segment problem kicks in. And then what am I gonna do? Oh, I've got all these bitcoins, no worries. I got 13 of them. Joel, Nedu, Nedu, Nedu, N-E-D-E-A-U, Nedo, Nedo. Liberty, Missouri, 16933. Hey Mr. Mac and Cheese, please send karma to my white boy bro, Chris, who lives in Salay City, Philippines. Please de-douche me with an L-G-Y. You've been de-douched. Yay!

1:53:08 You've got karma. Stuart Allen in Trumansburg, New York, 1-11-42. And I think, I don't know, that may have been carried over from the last show. Not sure. Sounds familiar. Riley, and I don't have any notes. How does that, how does it even work? How does someone carry over from the last show? Oh, that's, well, it happens in a lot of different ways. The way the thing is downloaded and goes into, there's not a decent merge purge. And this is and some of these are put in by hand because they came in as checks. Okay. All right It's already coming in as checks. There's a pile of cha you wanted to know there's a pile of checks. I asked

1:53:48 I could go on yeah keep going cuz soon we're gonna add the Bitcoin to this mess. Oh, yeah, I got the bitch I got a connect got three bit coins from Joe blow no no, but it's not we got three bit coins from last week It's not even like that. I have to now look at these 256 bit number strings and someone's gonna say here's my note that goes with this donation number So I'm gonna have to connect all that it's not like an email. I'm stupid, but believe me If you get five bitcoins it'll be a miracle. Riley Hanneman in Seattle, Washington $111.11. Looking for a shadow puppet theater jingle and a dance monkey dance. No he didn't say and he just said dance monkey dance. That's all he just wants me to dance like a monkey boy. I've danced for you. Dance are you dancing? I'm dancing I'm dancing soft shoe here I go here I go. Chad Christian in Erie Colorado $100. Bad Chad.

1:54:48 That's Bad Chad. That's Bad Chad who wrote about the karma he got when he found the toilet paper roll while he was mountain biking. Oh, that guy. He needs to write more. He's fantastic. Strong work. Keep it up. Brevity is the soul of wit. Cheers. Bad Chad. Anonymous in Houston, Texas. 100 had to donate again after listening to your segment on pedophilia. That was your last podcast a terrible evil needs to be exposed whenever it can Please find some way to move this from a second half item to a full real news category Even when pedophilia is exposed it finds a way to quickly drop from the public attention It is due to the fact in the depths of evil and one's minds has a sink to contemplates not even sustainable I think that of all the podcasts I'm aware of I think we have done the most on this issue

1:55:39 Yeah, second half or not. We'd be out of business the amount of times we've talked about this if we put it at the front of the show people are like, oh, it's the pedo bear cast. We can't do that. Yeah, that's what we don't need and that's why we actually as much as we have talked about it it's probably only maybe four or five shows or six. Yeah. It doesn't come up that much because you know what happened with Adam had a radio station burnt to the ground because it was toasted like flamethrower It's like so you know it's not it's not a safe thing to talk about so we don't talk about it that much. Corey Cotton, Lehigh Acres, Florida 9696. Wait a minute, whoa whoa whoa whoa, I think you missed Philip. Oh Philip, yeah this happened by the oh I did I missed one last week too. I gotta put it back. I want to bring it up I'll go back and get it. This spreadsheet apparently I was just happened last week we lost a a

1:56:38 contributor because apparently when there's a long donation note that you know that's not what happened here I just missed it's that Phillips scan Dari Otto Brooks in New York gave us a hundred bucks I couldn't find a note from him but anyway last week there was this long donation note and When there's a long note and you scroll down on Excel, according to this is apparently I guess discovered by JC, it skips the guy that it should have scrolled down to. It does a page, a double page or something. And so we missed, we missed a guy anyway. Yeah, as we say in Holland, boy, we were making a lot of noise together, weren't we? Yeah. As the elephant and the mouse crossed the bridge.

1:57:20 So anyway, the guy we missed was Peter Marks last week and he gave us 69 69 and he wanted to make sure that we mentioned him not only that but we'll give him a special Even though it's out of sequence Cory Cotton and Lehigh Acres, Florida 96 96 Finally a downer after listening to the double digits of former local TV newscaster IT guy and skydiver and get mo nation alligator Florida just getting by and propagating the formula in lieu of donating donating 96 96 for a marriage with no chance at swazzle enough So you go back to back? Okay, okay, just signed up for the five bucks subscription like a de-douching some karma to get out of a few unmentionable messes support the shorter donation segment

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1:59:45 in Amsterdam. Hey, Sir Paid, good to have him back. Nice. Here's some angelic karma for the best news reconstruction team, Alan and Jeffrey, putting the fun in dysfunctional media. Take a rain check for the karma. What? Did he say, did he say rain check? Rain check. Do you know how many people are tweeting me about rain every single time we do this? There we go. Fun. You can use some rain here, I can tell you that. That's Sherry Osborne. You can find her on the No Agenda group there on the Facebook. She makes these gorgeous rain sticks. They're so beautiful. So beautiful. You'll be able to get rain in your area. Yes, that's right. They work. You have to go outside to really make it work. Fact. Fact. Fact. Anonymous, 75 bucks a nice job, Karma. Oh, all right, yeah. Don't we all. Here it comes. Good luck. You've got Karma.

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Papal Succession, Liberation Theology and CIA

A donor's note sparks a discussion on the potential for a Marxist-leaning Pope and the history of CIA influence in the Vatican. The hosts touch on the suppression of liberation theology and the role of Opus Dei. This is followed by more listener credits, including a "Brolf" jingle request involving Dr. Anthony Fauci.

pope· vatican· opus dei· liberation theology· cia

2:00:47 blah Roy ping Joe pin Joel tingle tingle tingle could be pingle Brooklyn 9076 or 7096 I think you have to do this in a snide voice really Adam a Marxist leaning priest may become the next Pope all the Pope electors are appointed by Pope's John Paul and Benedict 42 years of their rule aided by the CIA and Opus Dei day day Opus Dei equals the second Inquisition. The reforms of Pope John XXIII's Second Vatican Council, priests supporting the preferential notion of the poor in the liberation theology, were obliterated!

2:01:29 As far as Obama and others moving the country toward a kind of Marxist-Socialist system like the EU, the New Deal saved capitalism, but followed the modern American welfare state under the boot of the military-industrial-finance complex, now subject to a national security state that resembles more a corporatist-fascist state than anything else. Workers owning the means of production forget about it. Elites own us. Get ready for more drones and war. Eat your tiny piece of pie and shut up slave. I love it when you know if you're gonna talk to me like that you could as long as you're paying me you can do it all day. All day. Thomas Kilbride.

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2:02:57 Good one Charlotte Lang in Brooklyn. We wish you get that clip by the way someone look 90 look look it look it look look it no Look it look at rate Ray LaHood look at 90% of this show comes from our producers No, I know but who specifically I don't know and someone someone's gonna be like oh, I want one You won't open up the door mr.. Dvorak. You're a hoarder Charlotte Lang Yeah, yeah, this is 69 69. Oh well 69 69 dude This is interesting because I thought this was the one from The actual note that came from Peter Marx hi But it says hi Jeb and at Alan I'd listen to your show every morning after commuting my slave job and honored to finally deduce myself I would like to give a She says Heil

2:03:59 Ohio. Ohio. Ohio. Ohio. You gotta say Ohio. Ohio. Ohio. Ohio. Ohio. Ohio. Ohio. To my boyfriend Kevin, I guess is not from Italy. I'm what am I thinking? But but she's funny because she has a similar request who hit me in the mouth the first day we met. That's interesting. Hi, let's go on our first date. Hey, have you ever listened to the No Agenda show? What is the risk? Who are those two idiots? You like that show? I think it's really, that's the way to go. I mean this will determine if you're going to be together for the rest of your life or not. You're either no agenda or you're against us.

2:04:41 Right, you're either for the terrorists or there's no agenda. Yeah, for us or against us. That's it. That's how it works. And if you're for, and you go on a date with someone who says, oh, either, well, first of all, if they've heard of the show and they listen, I mean, you're done. It's like jumping, swazzling off all night long. Yeah, and she gave a 69-69 donation. Uh-huh, I'm telling you. But in your but otherwise if someone just hits you know if you get hit in the mouth or if you hit someone in the mouth and they come back like yeah, this is kind of cool. That's a keeper. That's a keeper. All right. So what does she want? What does she want? She probably is a keeper. What does she want? She wants a Bush and Ashbrook. With a de-douching. Oh, okay. Hold on a second. And a Karma and a de-douching. Either way, she got a new one for me. You are, you're speeding up. What?

2:05:36 Hello? Uh, she has a new one for us. Yeah, well, you're testing, one, two, three, I hope I'm back. Yeah, you're back. You want to reconnect? No, you're okay, go. She's got a new one. She has a new one for us. Brooke, Brooklyn, New York. Brooklyn. Brooklyn. You've been de-douched. We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. Dr. Fauci, thanks so much as always for joining us. Good to be here, bro. I don't know why that's so funny. I think I need to cut it down just to brawl. Just a good to be here, bro. So Peter Marks has a note that we missed last week and I read it. I came across your fine show last year looking for some real election news that I've been listening ever since. I wanted to donate for a while to value for value form, but was strapped due to crippling alimony from a recent divorce. Finally paid off and can give start giving you some well deserved Mac and cheese money. Please give a good to be there.

2:06:38 brolf and a de-douching along with some relationship karma. Oh, that's interesting. Well, we just did the brolf. I mean, I can't... I just dropped the... I can't... de-douching. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. I need to put the, uh, I need to put the Brolf in, uh... I need to cut that thing down. That's why I haven't put it in the right spot. No, but it's funnier if it's just, good to be here, Brolf. You don't want him... I know, but you get the anticipation. I don't think it'd be as good short.

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

Swazilnuff Club, PayPal Subscription Issues

The hosts address recurring issues with PayPal cancelling listener subscriptions without notice. They acknowledge members of the "Swazilnuff Club" who make up for missed payments with larger one-time donations. The segment includes various jingles for "Science," "MILFs," and "Job Karma" as requested by producers.

swazilnuff· paypal· dr. kiki· milf· karma

2:07:14 You think you hear you hear broth and then they say that is gonna be good and you're all wound up for I think it's a timing thing I think we do both of them and we'll test it next show. Okay, hold on Let me just let me just grab it for a second because of course this is hidden away. I'm doing a I'm doing what? Meanwhile, yeah continue. Briscoe from Bayshore New York came out 69 69 greeting comrades O'Brien and Sherrington. I don't want to let the streak digest yet a shout out of karma for Smita if you don't mind no need to read on the air further. Okay. Karma for Smita. Here we go Smita. You've got karma.

2:08:02 Apparently down the street who's didn't know Mojitaneja in Austin since 69 69 and nothing just hold on hold on John hold on hold on hold on hold on you're not coming through so well let's reconnect okay hang up on me bro don't hang up on me bro there we go don't hang up on me bro Is it better? Yeah. Nah, it's even worse. Call me, that'll reroute differently. Well, that's what I was gonna do, but then you called me, like, you know, like you're some kind of techno expert. Reroute differently. Reroute differently. Reroute, reroute. You think you're going through an exchange, it'll reroute differently? Dr. Fauci, thanks so much, as always, for joining us. Good to be here, brolf. No, I think it's better just, good to be here, brolf. Brolf. Brolf.

2:09:11 We've all done that. We've all like had one of those really horrible moments where you're like, oh crap, I know I didn't call him Rolf, did I? I know that's what's bad about it. I talked to some guy the other day and I used his wrong first name. I felt like an idiot. Really? What was his name? He said Pete and he was like John or something really bad? No, his name is Gil and I called him... Fuck, I can't remember what I called him. It was Jeff or something else. But did you have a chance to correct? No, because that was a short realization. It took me, it was after I was hanging up. Hey, thanks Jeff. Oh no! There goes that gig. Bojita Neha I mentioned in Austin, Texas 6969. Craig Kuttner in Norwalk, Connecticut.

2:10:03 Hi Starsky and Hutch, I do think that the donation segment is a way for the NA community to relate to each other as ex-slaves with a common worldview. It could be I'm just a fanboy, but I do find myself buying John's recommended wine and salt. And I even passed my general ham license when Adam got me fired up. Very good. Maybe you should do a no agenda lifestyle magazine which is after all how Hugh Hefner got started 73 is just a tutor. They had fiscal cliff LG y karma. Hey, that's a really good idea I like the lifestyle. Yeah lifestyle magazine totally probably do an online magazine called no agenda lifestyle somebody get us there you get us the URL and We can combine some of the ones we already have or I have them actually here's here We've got a bunch of sites like the movie side and the book side they can just

2:10:59 become segments of the bigger site and they could plug right into that and they do the benefit from the accumulation of numbers of a combined site instead of a bunch of little sites and And you can own the stickers guy in there right right right? I can't get my little my LG Y is broken my LG Y mojo and not happen What is going on here people? Hold on. He wants the... what is it? It was complicated. Two to the head fiscal cliff LGY karma. I personally don't want to be part of a movement to keep those... Oh, wrong one. Yay! That was pretty good. I don't want to be part of a movement to keep them.

2:11:47 I personally don't want to be part of a movement to keep those semi-automatics flying. That's a whole other clip I have lined up for after. See, I'm getting ready for after the donation segment. Anonymous in Stafford, Virginia, 6969. Would love to hear a Dr. Kiki Science toot of the head, LGY. Why do you do this? Also play a separate job karma. No, no, no, no, no. No, there's just no way. This is what I hate. I'm not doing it. Okay, well you gotta give him a karma. I'll do a Dr. Kiki, but you know, it's like this is someone who has not heard, uh, who's not caught up. Yes, probably true. Shut up already! Science! You've got karma. There you go. I love that Dr. Kiki. Is your fault Bella in Milton Keynes bucking him? Sure.

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2:13:16 Without him knowing it and he didn't know obviously otherwise he would have known and wouldn't have known it that he didn't know And he says I'm gonna I'm making up for it with this with my swazzling off donation I'm working on my next knighthood which will be a dame hood from my lovely Dame Audrey Please give her a karma shot. Thank you very much black knight George van der Horst. You've got karma from the bouncing hills of Cotswold Thank you. Hey, yeah cats Hubble. I The PayPal does this and we have to be vigilant. Scott Gerowitz in Akron, Ohio 6969 Andrew Green in London. As you predicted my regular PayPal dropped out after three months so I've joined the Swazilnuff Club. A shot of General Karma would be appreciated. Yes, thank you. Well thank you for checking. That's really important. You've got Karma. You know I have to do it too because I... That was Andrew Green.

2:14:11 Have subscriptions subscription donations to several sources online that I contribute back And I have to check because they drop me too. I'm like, oh, I feel good like I'm supporting some guy who I pick up a story from once in a while, like five bucks a month or whatever they ask for. And it turns out you haven't given anything. And I feel like a crap dude. I don't know why this problem exists to such an extreme on PayPal. I sent a nasty note into our PayPal executive. Our guys supposedly follow our account and told me to look into it. I never heard back. They follow our account? Uh-huh. We have a couple of guys. Yeah, they're ready to pull the plug. Who's that calling? Yeah, a pistol of all people? Okay, sure. Boom. We're done. Hit the button.

2:15:07 David Morris in Newmarket, Ontario is listening to Fred and Barney when the four cars in front of me decide to play rugby on the ice-covered road. I had no choice but to pick a line and go through the chaos and I emerged unscathed in my rental car. As a longtime listener without donating I owe it all to you two for the good karma. Here's a small contribution for all your work. Call out Dale as a douchebag. I hit him in the mouth six months ago, but he keeps drinking your donation away. I could use some job karma. If he was sharing it would be okay, but it doesn't seem to be the case. You've got karma. Steven Nielsen in Wheat Ridge, Colorado. No comment. 6969. Dr. James, I sent 6969. Why? Because this is a Valentine's Day gift to my personal MILF, Miria. Miria. Miria. Myria.

2:16:00 M-I-R-E-Y-A. And I need some serious job, by the time you read this, I'll have completed two more interviews. Give me one, too delicious to believe, followed by a hot milf. And then jobs, jobs, jobs, and K-S-S-X-1-8. So this is a... What? No, this is a make good. This one fell through the cracks. Hey, way to go, JC, on making that clear. Yeah. So this is a make good. It wasn't this fall. It actually fell behind the score. Oh, man. What is going on? Is there anyone in your house besides you? John no, there's no one in your house. He's stealing the money Because it is it's like someone is doing something with you know we have one man. Where's the last time I did a make good I'm not talking about I'm talking about the connection. I can't hear you properly Oh, I thought you're bitching about to make good. I've moved on already. That's why I said is there anyone in your house. Oh, yeah Maybe

2:16:54 Maybe you should go look and I'll do the the two delicious milf and oh, it's one hot milk, baby Yeah, we got that already science Actually, I think he wants the other milf so I'll do that one and just as a super super super bonus, it's one hot milk, baby Jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs You've got karma. There you go. They say no, nobody's doing anything. They're sleeping. Dr. James was what we just did. Okay, yeah. Brian Leslie in Bremerton, Washington 6969. Great show. Oh, okay. Might do something. Great show. All I need... We don't do doubles. Or trip. Brian, you should have known this. Shut up already!

2:17:52 Science! And that closes it out ladies and gentlemen. 69! 69 DUDES! That's it! We'll dis-swazzle enough for the week. Joshua Burville and Rose Bay, Australia 5555, Justin Con... I'm sorry Carizza in Greenwood, Colorado 5433 love the show longtime listener first-time donor Broke I need a birthday call from my Wes Wagner whose birthday is the third like the way writes in code Thank you for making the TV obsolete in my life. Thank you. You're welcome stuck in North Dakota. I'm about to run out of weed oh

2:18:32 Oh no! Stop! Panic! Someone get North Dakota! I'm stuck in North Dakota and I'm about to run out of weed. This is a... I understand the problem my brother. I need some karma, some love a job, some sticky weed. I'm getting my ass home as quickly as possible. Thank you for the enlightenment twice a week. Wes, happy birthday brother. The numbers are all about the... Oh God! I think he's calling for weed karma. Get the man some smoke. Hold on a second. This reminds me. So this is the difference between our show and... Have you ever watched the 700 Club, Pat Robertson? Oh yeah, of course. These guys are hilarious. So you know, on our show you can pray for sticky weed.

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Pat Robertson, 700 Club Million Dollar Prayer

A listener's request for "sticky weed" karma in North Dakota is contrasted with a clip from Pat Robertson’s "700 Club." The hosts mock the televangelist's practice of telling viewers that God is supplying them with a million dollars. They joke about offering similar spiritual services for "gooey weed" and face-sitting requests.

pat robinson· 700 club· sticky weed· north dakota· prayer

2:17:52 Science! And that closes it out ladies and gentlemen. 69! 69 DUDES! That's it! We'll dis-swazzle enough for the week. Joshua Burville and Rose Bay, Australia 5555, Justin Con... I'm sorry Carizza in Greenwood, Colorado 5433 love the show longtime listener first-time donor Broke I need a birthday call from my Wes Wagner whose birthday is the third like the way writes in code Thank you for making the TV obsolete in my life. Thank you. You're welcome stuck in North Dakota. I'm about to run out of weed oh

2:18:32 Oh no! Stop! Panic! Someone get North Dakota! I'm stuck in North Dakota and I'm about to run out of weed. This is a... I understand the problem my brother. I need some karma, some love a job, some sticky weed. I'm getting my ass home as quickly as possible. Thank you for the enlightenment twice a week. Wes, happy birthday brother. The numbers are all about the... Oh God! I think he's calling for weed karma. Get the man some smoke. Hold on a second. This reminds me. So this is the difference between our show and... Have you ever watched the 700 Club, Pat Robertson? Oh yeah, of course. These guys are hilarious. So you know, on our show you can pray for sticky weed.

2:19:27 Sticky wee. Here's what Pat Robertson's people are praying for and what they receive apparently. Speak the word and touch people's lives. God is going to supply a million dollars. Somebody is praying right now, right this second you're praying for a million dollars and God said I have heard your prayer, I know your need and I'm going to supply the need that you've requested and it's done in Jesus name. Well hallelujah, hallelujah brother. Hey brother, don't be praying for sticky weed man. Yeah, go for the million. Go for the million bucks. That's an old you know if you have a big enough audience you can pull that stunt off if you're a preacher you say Somebody right now is pray has somebody right now, and there are I hear it. I hear it They're praying for to cure their diabetes

2:20:15 So we get like, you give me 50 bucks. I hear someone, they want to have someone swazzle them. They want to actually, someone wants them to sit on their face. The Lord is going to take care of your request. And he'll throw in some sticky weed. Sticky weed. Not just any old weed. It's got to be gooey. The gooey weed is the best. Kevin Payne, Chantilly, Virginia, $50.01. Blake in Stamford, Connecticut. Don't plan on donating so soon, but after John's excellent performance last show, I was compelled to do so. No jingles. Keep up the great work. Ron Perry, Denver, $50. And finally, Greg Brunsell, Kenosha, Wisconsin, $50. And Carl Ranson in Christchurch.

2:21:07 50s keeping it short mofos. He says nice. That's our donation segment for show 492 want to thank everybody who helped us produce this show and and keep us Encouraging us to continue in our merry way in the way we well, and we also have show 500 coming up on Coming up. We're gonna set up to three one three one three donation which will be to celebrate show 500 which happens to fall on the 13th or I'm sorry the 31st of... Are you doing something else? Are you distracted? I'm trying to do that. I'm trying... See, the problem with the 31313 is that it's the day month year and I keep visualizing the month day year and it confuses me. Well 31313 is what 90% of the universe uses that date structure except for the United States. Yeah, I'm fine with it.

2:22:05 But of course it's also show 500 so you can make up your own numerology. We thought the threes was nice. But regardless, this is one of those, it's kind of like our time to shine when we need that extra boost to get us through the slower time so we can just move on and just move forward, keep going forward, keep doing the work that we want to do. Keep watching C-SPAN and Itching a lot I guess it's itchy now when I watch these spas or the itch. I'm sorry to hear that for a dot org slash All we have to do is ask we want the help So we got is Justin Carriza who says happy birthday to Wes Wagner Celebrating today, and please Lord send him some stinky weed will do our best

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

Knighting of Sir Mark Wilson, South by Southwest

Mark Wilson is officially knighted as "Sir Mark" for his $600 donation. Adam Curry announces his upcoming session at South by Southwest (SXSW) titled "Value for Value: Just Getting By in New Media." The hosts discuss the economics of public speaking, comparing their potential fees to the high-priced "bundled" speeches of Bill Clinton.

mark wilson· south by southwest· value for value· bill clinton· speaking fees

2:22:58 Alright, and we have one knighting ceremony. So I've got my blade. I know that yours is... Stuck. That's so old. Come on Mark Wilson, come on forward. Today you completed your knighthood by very kindly becoming the executive producer of episode 4, 9 or 2, a real title. We will vouch of course on your behalf and you sent your accounting. We are proud to be presenting you soon with the pin of the No Agenda Knights of the Round Tables. So hereby I pronounce thee Sir Mark, Knight of the No Agenda Round Tables. And of course we got for you some hookers and blow rent boys and chardonnay hot pants and booze wenches and beer rubin s rumen and rosé geishas and sake Vodka and vanilla bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts and the illustrious mutton and mead horse meat included I'm reliably informed so Dvorak org slash na for the value for value model, which I will be talking about on Saturday the 9th of March

2:24:00 at South by Southwest at Dell Hall at 1230 the title of my session value for value just getting by in new media. Are you gonna put some clips together? I'm basically doing the whole cusp speech just doing that again. Yeah, but I'm gonna start off. Oh, yeah. I'll customize. I'm trying to get on the road with this thing I want someone to pay me to do this, you know, I'll go to your company and then I'll just say, you know I'll be entertaining we'd laugh for an hour and you pay me isn't that how that works? Isn't just an item isn't just an item on the checklist when they have like some gathering and we've got some great speakers Yeah, well doesn't work that way. Well, I

2:24:42 It's a cycle. It's a problem. It's the right nominees down so that goes like this and you'll be cheap. Let's say you're five grand Five grand I'll throw in a blowjob. Well, it might be necessary. Anyway, so say you're five grand so you go and the meetings are meeting going on in a company. What are you going to do Bill with the, we've got a hole to fill in our big conference, big database conference. How many people are showing up? We're going to have 1100 people. It's going to be a sales conference, the sales people. The big conference, big conference. Who are we having for a keynoter? Well I was thinking of getting this Curry guy, Adam Curry, seems like a pretty good speaker, he's got a good reputation. Yeah, what does he cost? Five grand?

2:25:26 Can we have Bill from accounting instead? He's actually a pretty good public speaker. He's a member of Toastmasters. He can do balloon animals. So yeah, he's Toastmasters. He's pretty good. I've heard him speak. He's really funny. I'll ask him to do a... And so then Bill from accounting gives the speech and that's that. You're done. You don't get your $5,000. Well, you're right. So I should probably just stay at home and just work harder. Just do more more. You should try to go for it. Everyone's you know when the cycle changes the guys get money to throw away then they start hiring, you know Clinton to speak. He's in he's been in the Netherlands.

2:26:05 Think ten times in the past three months just giving speeches. Yeah, I think he's lowered his price or something or maybe he's well He's bundling his high price was I know was to 250 right million dollars. Yeah, I think I think he's bundling So, you know because you don't have to the the jet doing $50,000 deals or hundred yes and again and you know Then they pool for the jet because you know, the jet is that's 60 probably 60 $70,000 for the round-trip so it can do it's one jet ticket and And you know the hotel and everything and so he's probably still picking up 300,000 maybe half a million, but he's hanging out He's hanging. He's not going back. It's hanging out drinking. He likes those Dutch girls pounding them hookers So the clip I accidentally played which I have lined up for you. I have it lined up specific This is Chris Matthews who I do not watch, but I was this clip was point out to me pointed out to me Not for the reason that I liked it

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Chris Matthews, Gun Control and Political Nutty Pack

MSNBC's Chris Matthews is criticized for suggesting that "hoarders" and "survivalists" are the source of future presidential assassins. The hosts also analyze a clip of director Rob Reiner discussing gun control, pointing out logical inconsistencies regarding violence in countries like the UK and Switzerland. They mock the idea that subtitling movies could reduce violence.

chris matthews· rob reiner· gun control· second amendment· switzerland

2:27:02 Because he's going to say that if we don't get guns off the street, someone's going to shoot the president. That is his message. You're kidding! Uh-huh. But then when you... What I miss the first time when someone pointed this out to me is who is going to be doing the shooting. Because we are both suspects. You and I. We don't even... What? It doesn't make sense. We're not even anywhere near there. Go on. I personally don't want to be part of a movement to keep those semi-automatics flying into the hands of all sorts of people as they are today. The hoarders, the survivalists, the paranoid, the criminal and downright politically nutty. I think I heard hoarders. That would be no, archivist. That's a lot different. The, what was it? The preppers?

2:28:00 And that's pretty bad. Downright nutty. Yeah, and the nutty. I personally don't want to be part of a movement to keep those semi-automatics flying into the hands of all sorts of people as they are today. The hoarders, the survivalists, the survivalists, the paranoid, the paranoid. I think I fall under paranoid. Criminal and downright politically nutty. Politically nutty. Anyone who disagrees with Chris. Yeah. Why? Because the next mass shooter could well emerge out of this pack. The shooters of John F. Kennedy and Jerry Ford who got shot at twice. Look at the men who shot Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King and Malcolm X and George Wallace. I'm pretty sure it was all CIA actually, but okay. They all had political motives and they all had guns. Got them easy and put them easily to use. And if you're not against this movement, you are with it.

2:28:45 Give this guy the hook. How unbelievable is that? I mean, that's really, that's dangerous talk there. No, that guy's, that's horrible. He's a subversive, that guy. I mean, in the worst way. Let's play, since we're on this sort of thing, let's play. Here's Rob Reiner talking about guns and I want you to see if you can spot the logical contradictions and I think there's two of them even though one of them is really a pain in the ass. Rob Reiner is the guy who was meat head on All in the Family. He's the director, son of Carl Reiner.

2:29:24 Yes, yeah, he's and he's a big left-wing blowhard. He's on all kinds of stuff. He's very entertaining I heard him at the Commonwealth Club very very funny, but when he goes off on this stuff he see if you can hear the logical inconsistency which I think is a real problem with a lot of these people and The logical inconsistency what he has to say. Problems who also watch those video games might be tipped over by something like that, yes. But those people, if they didn't have access to guns, they'd probably go and stab somebody or hit somebody with a baseball bat or whatever. Because of other issues. Yeah, no, because of other issues. It's not like somebody, you know, this is the argument.

2:30:05 They have the same video games, the same violent movies in Japan, in Canada, in England, all the same things. And nobody's getting killed there. Because they don't have the guns. I mean so so those kinds of things are not I mean if we saw outbreaks of violence Based on these violent movies that we that we have and it's what our second biggest export is These movies to around the world if we saw big outbreaks of violence because of that then you say hey We got a we got a case here. You see in see a high There's nothing but violence in the United Kingdom and it's all knife crime and people ganging up on each other and beating each other with sticks. Is he insane? Well here's the thing that the self-contradiction was the following. One is that he says well if there were no guns and these nut balls who get turned on by a violent video game would stab someone they have a knife and then he says

2:31:05 Then he goes on and drops that whole thought and says it's all because of guns. Yeah, he's an idiot. And then by the way, and it's never mentioned that one of the most highly armed citizenry in the world is Switzerland and they get those movies. So it's all bull crap. Yeah, but just trying to get their... Yeah, I know. Whoa, whoa, whoa. But they're subtitled. What? The movies are subtitled, so I don't think you're getting it first hand. It doesn't work. I don't think it's the vocalism that... It's all the explosions. It's too busy reading the subtitles. That's the way to do it. We can stop all violence by subtitling our movies. Subtitle. You have to read. What's he saying? Read? What?

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

Mokhtar Belmokhtar, Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb

Conflicting reports regarding the death of Al-Qaeda commander Mokhtar Belmokhtar, also known as the "Marlboro Man," are examined. The hosts question the validity of DNA identification claims made by Algerian and Chadian authorities. They note that Belmokhtar has been reported dead multiple times in the past, suggesting the current reports may be a hoax.

mokhtar belmokhtar· al-qaeda· mali· chad· dna testing

2:31:55 Hey, I'm a little, I'm a little, um, I'm a little angry. And I saw that you came up with this as well. But I'm a little angry that they, you know, that our movie is not going to happen now. You know, we had the whole... Oh, the Marktar, Marktar, Marktar? He was known as the Marlboro Man because of the millions of dollars he made smuggling cigarettes across the Sahara. But in the last few months, the one-eyed Mokhtar Belmokhtar has become one of the most sought-after terrorists in the world. And actors. It was Belmokhtar who authorities say was the mastermind of the attack this January on an Algerian natural gas plant that left dozens of Westerners and at least three Americans dead.

2:32:42 Now, Maktar had formed his own Al-Qaeda splinter group and announced he would use his wealth to finance more attacks against American and Western interests in the region and beyond. The US badly wanted Belmoktar stopped and actively helped in the search by French and African military units to find him and another top Al Qaeda leader who was reported killed yesterday. Here it comes. Belmoktar has been reported killed at least two times before in previous years only to show up alive. So what do you think? Do you think he's really gone or is he just playing hard to get because he wants more money for the movie? You know,

2:33:17 I don't know if he ever existed, which would mean he's going to crop up again. But the one I thought, this was on VanCat, which is the... This is the one that was the... I thought this was just a generally confusing report because there's other guys, Zayed who's dead, and Mokhtar, and I got the two of them confused. But play the Mokhtar 2 confusing report. It's the first official announcement of Abdelhamid Abou Zayed's death, the most feared commander of Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb. Since last Thursday, he had been declared dead on several occasions by Algerian media among others. The Algerian press even reported that authorities had collected DNA samples from members of Abouzeid's family to identify the body. French newspaper Le Monde confirmed his death, quoting high-level reliable officials.

2:34:04 However, since the president's announcement, no other officials in neither Mali, Chad or France have confirmed Abu Zaid's death. I think they got it from the same store that they bought the bin Laden DNA from. Yeah, the DNA store. Bullshit. That's bullcrap. Alright. And by the way, this other report that I picked up on from the, I know it's something, the whole thing is a hoax, but this, this, whatever, apparently all the soldiers that were being killed in Mali and I guess part in Algeria, they're all from Chad. Well, yeah. As many as 50 jihadists have been captured in the French-led intervention in Mali. They were caught hiding on an island in the Niger River near the city of Gao. Meanwhile, Chadian President Idris Devi has confirmed al-Qaeda commander Abu Zaid was killed during clashes in the remote region of Mali several days ago. Julia Seager has more.

2:35:00 A national funeral for the 26 Chadian soldiers killed in fighting in Mali on February 22nd. In front of journalists and opposition leaders, President Idris Debi made a surprising announcement. Our soldiers, our Chadian soldiers have killed two of the top Al-Qaeda leaders, including Abu Zayd. Our soldiers have liberated the city of Kidal. By the way, when they said the guy, you know, the prime minister is going to make a surprise announcement, he comes out and says he's gay. I think that's the way it should have gone.

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

Economic Hitmen, UN Cholera Outbreaks in Africa

The hosts discuss the "Economic Hitman" strategy of using IMF loans and infrastructure projects to gain control of African nations. They highlight a UN investigation attributing a cholera outbreak in Zimbabwe to UN forces, similar to the situation in Haiti. The segment links an executive order against Zimbabwe to a broader pattern of "economic shit man" tactics.

zimbabwe· tanzania· cholera· united nations· economic hitman

2:35:46 I have a surprise announcement everybody, I'm gay! Whoop it up! So I came across, you know, sometimes you come across things that just correlate for some crazy reason like, oh wow, what is going on here? So we have the general concept down of an economic hitman and we actually got a note from our economic hitman about, what was it, it wasn't, it was two other countries, it was Tanzania, I think he was talking about and apparently the Kenya I guess is one of them. Yeah, they're rousting or they're getting sick of this Chinese. Yeah. Yeah, very sick. Very sick of the Chinese. Well,

2:36:25 And so they're rousting him or something. He has, it wasn't, he was actually a longer note and it was just a lot of background information, nothing that was so important. No, but that's okay. That's okay because really, you know, you have to understand the whole idea of the economic hitman is, you know, you, uh, You get everything set up, you know, first of all, it's cool if you have the Chinas build roads and infrastructure, then you have to overthrow the government. So you put in your, you know, your fighters and then there's a coup and then, you know, well, then we have to send in some military and, you know, there's all this terrorists and Al Qaeda. And then before you know it, we're kind of running the show and the Chinas are out. That's kind of how it works. Right. But you leave out the one important part, which is you have to give them a

2:37:06 big IMF loan or something they can't afford. Yes, yes. Essentially what they did to Portugal and Spain. Yes. The EU, it's the EU, kind of incompetent at this, but they decided to pull that economic hitman stunt on members of their own organization, the European Union, and they ended up, now they're in a mess because you don't want to do it domestically. But let me get into the African country I was interested in. Because all of a sudden I see an executive order from the president regarding Zimbabwe. Apparently, Zimbabwe is a threat to our national security. And the president has said in accordance with the emergency, I have to, you know, before, what is it, March 6th,

2:38:00 He had to re-up for another year, national emergency against the executive order against Zimbabwe. And I'm like, well, obviously we've got an economic hit taking place in Zimbabwe. And then I come across this story that a United Nations investigation into a cholera outbreak in Zimbabwe is now attributed to the United Nations force that were in Zimbabwe. Oh, that's interesting. So what this means is that they are and 4,000 people died. So this is what happened in Haiti. So we had Haiti, we had things 8,000 people die of cholera. And now Zimbabwe. So of course, we've got the, you know, the, the executive order, terrorism, whatever scary over there in Zimbabwe. But we also kill them with cholera. I think this is a pattern. It's the economic shit man.

2:39:04 That's terrible. It was like a shaky dog story the way you told it. Dragged it out, dragged it out, and then there's a crummy punchline at the end which was a pun. But it is true. Yeah, no, the coincidence that the UN is spreading cholera here and there is not a good thing. No! Bring him in! Bring in the cholera division! Yeah, the cholera division. And they have these pants, you know, with a flap, they're like... This is one guy. This is one guy. Hey! Collar of Larry. Hey, take a shit over there, Collar of Larry. In that river. Right there, there you go. You see those people downstream washing their clothes? Yeah, there you go. That's the spot. It's like when we bring in the kicker for the field goal in football. He has a single digit number on his uniform. Three.

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

John Kerry in Egypt, Muslim Brotherhood Ties

Secretary of State John Kerry's visit to Egypt is analyzed, with reports indicating that secular and liberal leaders refused to meet with him. The US is accused of siding with Mohamed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood. Kerry's subsequent trip to Ankara to discuss Turkish-Israeli relations is also mentioned.

john kerry· egypt· mohamed morsi· muslim brotherhood· ankara

2:39:58 Oh yeah. Anyway, a couple other things just while we're staying on the crazy. I really do miss Hillary Clinton. Well, I do have a clip. her replacement and apparently they're on to us and if and of course your thesis was always that this new guy in Egypt is a stooge yes yes if you listen to the report from the French outlets you hear I think this might this may be you know this I think it's pretty much French you hear what's going on that's not really being reported too much here this is a carry over there in Egypt

2:40:35 The purpose of his visit is essentially to discuss regional and international issues. We have a wide spectrum of Egyptian leadership that is refusing to meet with him. The criticism is coming from liberal and secular leaders. They accuse Kerry and the United States of siding with the Muslim Brotherhood and they accuse its leader, Mohamed Morsi, of essentially stepping into the same role as the ousted dictator Hosni Mubarak. Now it is true that the United States has maintained close ties with Morsi, but the criticism is that he is failing to implement reforms and at the same time he is turning the country into a more religiously conservative ruling system. At least two opposition figures have refused invitations from Kerry to sit down and hold talks with him, and this follows this week a call

2:41:23 by the United States for the main opposition grouping that is known as the National Salvation Front to reverse its decision to boycott parliamentary elections that are due to begin next month. Yesterday Kerry was in Ankara telling the Turks that they need to improve their relationship with Israel. The Turkish Prime Minister recently made the comment that Zionism was a crime against humanity. In response to this, Kerry said that the comments were objectionable. This comment could indeed frustrate. She talks like Morse code. All right, so I need to talk about Carrie, but first I need to congratulate the chat room Of course, it is the designated shitter and he has a number two All right, so Carrie who by the way signs his name as John F. Carrie

2:42:24 I mean, is this guy pathetic or what? He signed... I'm looking at his documents and stuff. John F. Kerry. Have you seen him walking into embassies or into meetings? He has to duck. His head is so huge. He's got a big head. He's tall. But he's got the look of a guy who finally found his place in life. Oh, this is exactly where he wants to be. Oh yeah, oh yeah, no, you're so right. It's just glowing. Glow? No, he loves this. He, I mean, he has a massive heart on every single day. He can't believe his luck. You know, he killed Heinz's husband. You know, he took over that whole thing. And here, here's Kerry. That's his head. It's filled with water. So, um, he also went to Rome.

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

Syrian Opposition Funding, John Kerry and William Hague

John Kerry announces $60 million in support for the Syrian Opposition Coalition, which the hosts question as "programmed money." They compare this to UK Foreign Minister William Hague's efforts to send blankets and medical supplies. The segment critiques the "international conspiracy" in Syria and mentions past celebrity involvement with the Assad family by figures like Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt.

syria· bashar al-assad· john kerry· william hague· angelina jolie

2:43:16 He went to Rome to talk with the, what do you call it? The Pope. Not the Pope. No, the Syrian Opposition Council. Oh, the Free Syrian Army because why because well first of all that is interesting to note that now the Iraqis are lobbying bombs and missiles into Syria so the Iraqi army is fighting the Syrians now that's not being reported really but you know my military industrial complex is on it all the time so you know that's very significant because I think we pretty much control the Iraqis

2:44:00 So the Iraqi army is now fighting and President Obama said, oh, we're going to give some more money to the Syrian coalition. And Assad, that's how you pronounce his name, by the way, Assad, he's doing interviews and he's like, oh, this is really not very good. This is not very constructive. So here is Kerry in Rome. kind of crappy unfortunately, but he's talking about how awesome he is and what we're doing and how the president is making the 60 million dollars available, which I have questions about. Maybe you can help. Working together we've already been able to do a lot. We've imposed broad sanctions on the Assad regime that dry up some of the funds that fuel his war machine.

2:44:52 In addition we have supported the Syrian opposition coalition with I love how he's not very good at reading yet the Syrian opposition coalition training organization and Some of the communications resources that they need to reach out to the Syrian people I don't even know what that means communicative or they have a radio station or something like that continue to increase our humanitarian support for those who are suffering but today President Obama has encouraged all of us to embrace the notion that we need to do more. So the $60 million that I announced on his behalf today will do the following. So I take exception to this? This is like from his stash? I'm giving $60 million away on the president's behalf? I mean, does he get to do this?

2:45:48 I have no idea what the structure is of this operation and whether or not he was given a blank check. We're going to get to that because there is at least one reporter who's not American who asked these questions. As you know from your many years in the United States Senate and from your many years traveling the globe, the kind of multifaceted program in the tens of millions of dollars that you've announced here today will take many months before it is fully operational and longer still before its impacts are discernible on the ground. As you also said today, President Assad seems only to increase in his viciousness and his brutality. Aren't you concerned, sir, that while you're trying to stand up local councils and extend the rule of law in these places in Syria,

2:46:42 that perhaps we could see another 20,000 lives lost. So what he's saying, and Kerry's going to answer this, is, okay, you know, so you have, you talk a big game with your 60 million you're bringing from President Obama, no one really knows, is it one of those big checks like the lottery? And does that work? Do you just go into Syria and you say, hey, here's a check! You know? And so this guy is asking the right question. Won't 20,000 people, more people die because you're trying to deliver this check or they're trying to cash it? In short, as the Syrians are sure to say, is this the best you can do? Well Bob, it's a very good question and it's appropriate one to answer it. I am confident about our ability to be able to deliver this media money rapidly. So he stumbles there, the audio is so crap. He said to deliver this media, I mean money, rapidly. Part of this money we have programmed in some of the things that... The money is programmed John, it's programmed. It's smart money. We are doing now

2:47:41 But in addition to that, I've touched base with key members of Congress who I think are prepared to be helpful. And I will, I've agreed to brief them the minute I get back from this trip. So it sounds to me like he just went there and just said, you know, just say 60 million and then when you come back, then you know, we'll cover it in Congress. We'll get someone to slip it into some bill or something. I will personally be engaged in that process. So I feel very confident about it, as does the President and his advisors in the White House, who signed off on this knowing that this would require rapid delivery. So his advisors in the White House signed off on this. So Kerry was stuck there for a moment.

2:48:28 And he is, unlike Hillary, he is the whipping ass monkey dancing boy of the president. Oh, well, you know, the president said it was okay for me to say 60 million. I'll personally see everything. His advisors in the White House said it was okay for me to say this and I'll make sure I deliver it. Now what's crazy? Yeah, especially if it was Hillary, she would have told the guy to shut up. that the United Kingdom at the same time, of course the United Kingdom has all kinds of interests in that region as well for centuries, the United Kingdom is also sending money to the Syrian Council Opposition Freedom Fighter Incorporated LLC advertising, whatever you want to call it, and President Assad

2:49:17 has said, hey, you know, these Brits, they're not helpful. They're a bunch of a-holes. And so William Hague is fit. He's the foreign minister for the UK. Baldi. He's feeling really cocky. But this is a man presiding over this slaughter. and the message to him is we Britain are the people sending food and shelter and blankets. He's sending blankets. In some alternate universe isn't he actually Julian, a bald Julian Assange? Yeah, in another universe. So he's sending, we're sending, we the Brits are sending the blankets. I'm sorry Hague, the Americans, we got that covered with our big check.

2:50:00 your blankets to help people driven from their homes and families in his name. We are the people sending medical supplies to try to look after people injured and abused by the soldiers working for this man, President Assad. And Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN envoy, who's a softly spoken diplomat, said that this week that Assad thinks and is told by his inner circle that all of this is an international conspiracy not the actual rebellion and revolt of his own people so I think this will go down as one of the most delusional interviews that any national leader has given in modern times. So let me just take the opposite and let me say that it is an international conspiracy and I think that the journalists who are

2:50:51 publicizing this total crap from this haig character should now go and interview uh... brad pitt and angelina joe lee who had lunch with the assad's drove around with them and you were part of their charities uh... they should go interview and a wind tour of vogue who did a huge issue all about the first lady of uh... of syria and and you know and how come all of a sudden now they're so evil and this and they did how come they could do this whole profile of her and not notice it and please Angelina and Brad step forward and say that you knew it you knew the minute you were there that he was an evil man he was killing his own people where is that interview well that's funny you'd ask you have it? I wish I have it right here behind the tree Marshall McLuhan and then and then I'm just gonna wind up with this I'm angry for you I'm really angry for you you know you are my

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

Dennis Rodman in North Korea, Vice Magazine

Dennis Rodman's visit to North Korea with the Vice magazine crew is discussed. The hosts mock the State Department's dismissive reaction to the trip and the claim that Rodman is not a "player in diplomacy." They highlight the irony of the US government criticizing North Korea for "wining and dining" visitors while the First Lady presents at the Oscars.

dennis rodman· kim jong-un· north korea· vice magazine· state department

2:51:50 my friend for me for you yes on your behalf I'm angry angry angry I cannot believe I just couldn't believe it I mean if anyone deserved to go it was you oh yeah I am too trumpets blaring Dennis Rodman was bigger news in North Korea than its recent nuclear test. Our dear Kim Jong-un and his wife gushed the announcer, watch the basketball match with Rodman. And it wasn't just basketball. There was a tour of a dolphin aquarium, ice rink, and last night a private dinner with Kim that apparently involved more than eating.

2:52:32 producer from Rodman's sponsor Vice magazine tweeting, so Kim Jong-un just got the Vice crew wasted. No really, that happened. This pisses me off. You wanted to drink that wine collection when his dad was still alive and we talked about it, I mentioned it to Uncle Don, we tried to get messages out that it's a Cabernet collection, correct? Bordeaux. You know, and so now Dennis Rodman and the Vice crew gets to drink that? I don't know that they were drinking, I think they were smoking dope. Oh, okay. Well then I'm angry! You know, it's legal in North Korea. Marijuana is legalized in North Korea. It's hilarious. So this of course came up. Now everyone's laughing. Oh, this is so funny. I think it's brilliant.

2:53:23 And I believe, you know, if we look at the entertainment industrial complex, which we're very familiar with, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, they were all for Syria. Oh, now they're against Syria. Now, whoa, oh, sending Clooney. We need to go fix something. Oh, we got to go kill the Haitians. Bring in the designated shitter. Have Clooney do the prep. So all the actors all over the place. Kim Jong-un is like, OK, you know, I can't afford the curry. It's a little too expensive. We'll take go second rate. Where's the tattooed guy? You bring him over. And so the State Department is pissed off about this because they control all of the actors and Rodman has gone rogue and this came up in the most recent briefing. Of course, unfortunately, Victoria wasn't there. She's with the Waterhead traveling around Europe. So we have the

2:54:15 what is his name, Ventrell, who's kind of a stand-in stooge, and he gets asked the questions. To ask you if the State Department or U.S. government in general plans to debrief Mr. Dennis Rodman or any members of his traveling party. I think they issued an invitation for the North Korean leader to visit the United States, something like that. So this has been a topic a couple times this week and you know where we are that this is a private visit by a private American citizen. Mr. Robbin does not represent the United States. He's never been a player in our diplomacy. Oh, he's never been a player in our diplomacy. He says this twice, by the way.

2:55:00 Because all the rest are players. They're all players. They play in their little play and they're acting a little spiel. And you know where we are in general in terms of we don't have ill will toward the North Korean people. Now listen, he's going to tell us why you should not visit North Korea. Changes of sports or something we do with certain countries where maybe we don't have a good relationship. But this is coming at a time where we've got significant activity at the UN. to work for a strong, credible response after this nuclear test. Clearly you've got the regime spending money to wine and dine foreign visitors. Doesn't our president wine and dine foreign visitors?

2:55:44 that Feeding foreigners instead of their own people. Yeah, like we don't do that a couple of vice producers Like we don't do that. I mean we roll it now We've got that we've got our first lady handing out the best movie Oscar and this guy has the gall to say North Korea is bad because they get a second-rate basketball has been the actor player Carmen Electra smelling guy dead to do some weed

2:56:30 brother. Really? Really? Pathetic. I mean, and, and, and, Patrick, just to be clear, do you plan to meet Mr. Dennis Rodman for any... Sorry, for the second part of that, you know, we've long said our policy long has been that there are Americans who've been to North Korea who want to talk to us and discuss their travel when they come back. We take their call, we're willing to listen to them, but we haven't been in touch with this traveling party at any point along in the process. They haven't been in touch with us, and so we don't have any plans in that regard, but you know. I mean, what is that? It's like, and we're not interested. I mean, the guy, I mean, I'd like to know. Like, no, no, no. If they want to call us, it's okay. We'll listen to them. I mean, that is a hubris of the highest level. You can't on one hand talk about the evil empire and like, oh, he's so frightening. Kim Jong-un, oh, you're going to kill everybody with a nuclear bomb. But you know, Dennis Rodman was in, you know, basically hanging out, banging the hookers, smoking the weed. We're not interested in knowing. Oh, come on. That's farcical. Farcical. I love that word. So anyway, I'm disappointed for you. And I think if vice can go there, can't we?

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

Dianne Feinstein, Sandy Hook Families at Gun Hearing

The hosts critique a Senate gun control hearing led by Dianne Feinstein. They highlight a moment where Senator Richard Blumenthal asks Sandy Hook families to stand for applause, which they characterize as a "shameful display" of using tragedy for political theater. The segment notes Blumenthal's admission that the current legislative push would not exist without the Newtown tragedy.

dianne feinstein· richard blumenthal· sandy hook· gun control· newtown

2:57:35 Yeah, Vice had a whole special and I can go, we can go there through the back door. You go to China first and they have the whole route. We could do it. Hello, I want the horns and everything that Rodman got. I want the best podcast in the universe to go on the road. Vice had been there a couple times and they I guess had the, they could grease the wheels. I think we can still manage it. Because all I want is for you to be tasting the Bordeaux. I'd love to hang out with Kim Jong-un. Smoke some of that sticky weed. Don't you think I think it'd be fantastic so there was a I'm angry for you my friend. I've I've appreciate that. I'm not too pleased myself, so just the last thing I have is a Feinstein did her gun control meetings on the hill three hours. It was long. Yeah, it was good as the end where she forgot to call a

2:58:31 she forgot that her set up man was sitting there patiently waiting, Blumenthal from Connecticut to... and she's gonna close and she's just damn near says thank you for being here this meeting is closed and she almost did it but then she realized that she'd screwed up because the whole dog and pony show was just about to begin but here have her play the forgets Blumenthal clip. For your service to our country. If I could have just We're gonna, oh, Senator Blumenthal, take some extra time. I am so sorry. Well you know, Madam Chairman, thank you. I know that in the Senate, freshman senators are supposed to be seen and not heard, but I'm happy to be heard today. You've got it. I want to begin by thanking you, Madam Chairman, for your... You can kill us. Because for the next five minutes...

2:59:26 What? For the next five minutes all he does is kiss her ass. Oh yeah. But then, but then, the most I think shameful display I've ever seen in a congressional hearing follows and with it also an interesting comment he makes with the with the clip CT Senator. Okay it's not it's not loading for some reason. And there it is. And the simple blunt fact is that This issue was thought to be politically untouchable two months ago. We would not be here today without the horrific Newtown tragedy. So I want to begin by asking my fellow citizens of Connecticut, most particularly the members of the Newtown community, Sandy Hook Promise, the Newtown Action Alliance, as well as the

3:00:20 families who had victims to please stand so that we can thank you publicly for your courage and your strength in this extraordinary historic moment. Thank you. Let's give him a round of applause. What? Wow. First of all he admits that the whole gun control thing stems from the event. Yeah, it wouldn't have happened at all Yeah, when I happen at all no chance, but like a Lee luckily for this and then here's our here's our you know our The people that made it possible It's like it what I'm surprised it didn't bow like they would on the stage All you needed to say is always for joining us good to be here growth. That's all you got to say It's all you need just throw out of broth

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

New York Times Weight Report, Bradley Manning

John C. Dvorak delivers his weekly New York Times weight report, noting the paper is four ounces lighter than the previous week. The hosts discuss the Bradley Manning case, focusing on the denial of FOIA requests for the "Collateral Murder" footage. They conclude by questioning the lack of outrage from the LGBTQ community regarding Manning's treatment before signing off.

new york times· br Bradley manning· wikileaks· freedom of information act· lgbtq

3:01:04 Alright. Um, so in final closing... Oh! What? You know we forgot to do? I didn't forget anything. It's a short report but I gotta do my New York Times report. How funny is that? I told you if you tried to remind me of it that we'd forget. Yes, I made the mistake. John's gonna hum the Sunday Times! Alright, this is my report for this week. Alright, last week's Sunday New York Times weighed 1 pound 11.6 ounces. Today's Sunday Times, when you remove the local insert, weighed 1 pound 7.6 ounces. That is my report for this Sunday. Wait a minute, so you're telling me it is exactly the same weight?

3:01:50 No, you weren't listening. No, I wasn't listening at all. The first one, last week's was one pound eleven ounces and point six. This week is one pound seven point six. It's four ounces lighter. John's gonna harm the Sunday Times. Yes. I wanted to say that I read the entire Bradley Manning speech as transcribed and I have to say I thought it was very good what he said and I have concluded that the entire problem in this Bradley Manning case is that there was a Freedom of Information Act request for this helicopter shooting footage

3:02:40 which was denied and that that is the real issue here is that he had that and he released it, he got it out. This is what the Stasi government will not have. If they say no to a Freedom of Information Act, it cannot get out, it will not get out and he will go to jail for this. I do want to ask my friends in the lesbian, gay, transgendered and bisexual community Where is the outrage over the treatment of Bradley Manning as a gay man? Where I mean if you know if if any if it was the Chaz Bono if Chaz Bono falls on Dancing with the Stars and breaks a nail the whole lesbian gay Transgendered bisexual community is up in arms and outrage this guy was treated so poorly that

3:03:37 So poorly, yet there's not a single fag or dyke who was on his side and I'm very disappointed. Really disappointed by it. And I want you to think about it. And there you have it. Another no agenda show. Don't say it. Don't you dare say in the can. I wasn't gonna say in the can. Cuz I'll have to unleash the designated shitter. The designated shitter, I'm gonna unleash him on you. Are you doing that show today? Uh, yes. Oh good. I'll watch. Good. That's always fun to watch. Make sure you plug the show. I always plug the show. I know! Make sure you plug it again. Tell Leo I said hey.

3:04:20 I always tell Leo you said hey, and I always say why don't you put him on the show? He's good. The guy's a natural. He should be in broadcast. And Leo says, no he doesn't believe in science. Can't have him on. Alright everybody, I would like you to remember that is Dvorak.org slash NA. That is the address where you can go and support this program. If you want to keep it going, if you find some value, just look at what you're spending on entertainment alone in a month. Give up a little bit to support the program. Coming to you from Travis Heights hideout where mofo meets SoCo here in Capital the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I remain it's a drought by the way official drought now in Northern California I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday right here on no agenda

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