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00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Sunday, December 23rd, 2012. Time for your Get My Nation Media Assassination Episode 4-7-2. This is no agenda. Welcome to the other side of the apocalypse coming to you from Gimmo Nation Lowlands, day 17 living in exile in Amsterdam. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from the Pacific Northwest Buzzkill bunker where we're being attacked by complete ducks from Japan. I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. What are you being attacked by? Ducks. Ducks?

00:43 Docks. Docks? An entire dock, yeah. A whole dock. It's like the Atlantic City Boardwalk washed up on shore. Oh, you mean a dock? So you mean the actual docks from Fukushima? Yeah. No, really? Yeah. Wow, so that really did happen, that thing there then. Here's the story so far. There goes that conspiracy theory. Damn. It actually happened. They're just shipping their docks over here. Anyway, so there's an entire dock. It's about, I don't know, a quarter. It's a huge, it's like a full dock and it's intact with the deck and everything. Wow. And does it have like a boat attached to it or is it just a dock?

01:26 Just a dock and so they I'm sure there were boats at some point, but anyway, so the dock rolled up on shore and Intact and they just and they started they checked it out and they had they decide I said why don't they just put the thing up? They had to destroy it by by burning it because of all these vermin and things, I guess some sort of invasive barnacles or something on the thing. But is there still, are there still pieces of it left? Because I have something you need to do. You and Buzzkill Jr. I've got a little expedition for you. I've got a little... That's the problem. What do you mean? What's the problem? What happened is they had one of these really big high tides Yeah, and so I picked the dock up and moved it down the coast to someplace else now It's in some outside forks because I'd love I'd love for you to go down there with your Geiger counters and see if that's radioactive Well, I didn't I don't have a little I think I'm not going there forget it's too far to go and you guys travel with that stuff I know you do

02:25 I know you do. Hey, good news John, very good news. Yeah? The meme is spreading. Children around the world this Christmas are all saying one thing. Please don't eat them! It's spreading. It's now in the UK. The kids are all aware of Hillary Clinton eating children. Pretty pretty. I love it. Here's Lizzie in case you missed the original. Oops, I had the wrong one. This is the one I meant. Hey, you gotta be real careful whatever you're doing with your mic there. Are you moving stuff around John? Yeah, I was. Yeah, okay. You can't really do that too much. It makes noise like this? No, it's really bad when you do that. Oh, I'm not gonna do it.

03:21 So let me give you a little update here in the citizenry of Gitmo Nation Lowlands where we are living day 17 in exile for me. For Ms. Mickey it is day... No, 7 plus 14... She's day 36 I think, but true exile day 17 and it is the... Car wash without an end. We have not seen a blue sky since I've been here. It is just gray, it is raining, there is mist. I mean you don't know when to go to bed or when to wake up. It's like living in Scandinavia. In fact, there should be backup Scandinavians here. It's literally just gray. All day, all night, gray. See, whatever you're doing now, stop doing that.

04:10 I'm trying to get myself comfortable. We spend like 10 minutes before the show, that's the time to get comfortable, not during the show. I never got comfortable. Okay, alright. But there are crazy things that go on here. So would you like some observations from the lowlands, from Euro land, from the land of make-believe over here? Well, yeah, anything but the weather report. Okay. So they have this thing and they do it every single year. And it's called the Glass House. And this is a very interesting phenomenon. So they, a bunch of disc jockeys from the government run radio station, they build a glass house somewhere in the Netherlands, in the lowlands, I forget where it is this year, but usually on some square of some city or town. And then they broadcast from this for like two weeks without any food.

05:10 So they, and this is for a good cause, and then they raise money for the Red Cross. And it's the weirdest thing because they have their own television channel, and it's like you see these, first of all, DJs typically are not meant to be seen. It's just like, ugh. Whoever started this whole movement of webcams and look at the disc jockeys, like you've ruined radio forever. You know, I agree with that. It's so dumb. I blame Howard Stern. It's an ego thing. In fact, that's kind of where I'm going with this whole glass house thing. It's an ego thing. These disc jockeys, you know, they're like, oh yeah, we're doing this for the good cause. Bull crap. You love having all the fans standing outside. Oh, we raised a million euros. For what? So they can build a bigger building, the Red Cross? Have you guys ever looked into the jacked up crap those people are all about? Look at their building and tell me where the money is.

06:10 Oh no, so glad we're doing something. It's kind of the Dutch disc jockey version of turning your Twitter icon a different color to do something for somebody somewhere. It's just ugh. So that's it? Well, no, no, that's... It's very irritating to me because it's consistently and everyone's talking about, hey, have you seen the guys in the glass house? They're so awesome, aren't they? No, they're not awesome. They're a bunch of douchebags sitting in a beautifully built glass studio. The whole operation by itself, I'm sure, cost half a million just to pull off. And then we raised a million and a half for the Red Cross. Oh, this country, they still think that they did a great job for Haiti, the idiots.

06:54 I'm a little down here. And then I think we've talked about this before, but I can't get any decent regular food here. In a restaurant, yeah. Jeez, all you gotta do is complain. But it's what it is, John. You want to go get some good food, they don't have that in the supermarket. Unless you go to a so-called biological supermarket. Have you ever heard of such a stupid branding exercise? Is it in a tree? It's a separate supermarket which me and it's gonna be twice as expensive and it says we're a biologic a Biological supermarket. Well, of course you're a biological supermarket The stuff comes from anything in biology I'm sure your but but that I guess that is some brand that means that it's really healthy and it's not it's just the same crap in different packaging than more expensive and

07:46 And then, of course, Ms. Mickey's looking for stuff without gluten. Well, you know, we have like... You can't get a pancake mix without gluten stuff. It's just, it's... No wonder the people are sick here. They're eating crap. They're living in gray, eating crap, and they're watching a glass house full of ugly disc jockeys. Welcome to my life. Merry Christmas to you too, Adam. And in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak. And in the morning to you and in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. Yes, and of course all of our citizens, the human resources in our chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, all lined up ready to go, charged up actually, and of course thanks to Thijs Brouwers, a fine artist here from the lowlands who provided the art for the previous episode, very hard for us to choose last time.

08:42 Because when it rains it pours just had so much coming in and we always appreciate what the artists do please check out all the entries at no agenda art generator.com and I'm sure that there's other great uses for some of the art that pops up It's not just for for album art. You can use it for all kinds of stuff. Did you didn't send out a newsletter? Did you? I didn't you mean I didn't send a second the the the Adam Curry update in Amsterdam. Oh How was how were your travels did you enjoy the first-class premium service with a With a coach ticket and your valet service from the TSA I drove Really Wow, why would you do that?

09:33 Well, it saves me a fortune for one thing and I have a car to drive around and there's a lot of reasons. Really? Is it that much cheaper just to drive up? I didn't realize. I thought that... Well, actually, yeah, it is. It costs about 85 bucks to drive. I calculated this. It costs about 85 or 90 dollars to drive up at the most. Yeah. And then... With the airline during holidays, it would be $200 plus another $200 for a car. So it's $400 versus $90. And it's a nightmare. The difference is I can load the car up with presents. Ah, right. Right. Yeah. Did you bring everyone? So I can haul a bunch of stuff up here and then I can also haul a bunch of stuff back. So you're expecting. You can't really put this stuff on the airplane. You're expecting to receive gifts. Is that you really think you're going to get gifts, Papa?

10:26 No, there's some stuff in this wine cellar up here that I gotta move down. I can't do it any other way but drive it. Ah, okay. So what did you get everybody? What presents did you get them? It's sad they haven't been opened. I know. I know. Well then don't listen. A lot of stuff. Okay. I gotta congratulate you man. You nailed it. You really, really nailed it. It was episode 469er. Had to go back because I wanted to pull the clip. This came out in the news earlier this week. The Senate approved an amendment to the NDAA last month that would prevent the military from imprisoning any US citizen or permanent resident deemed a terrorism suspect without charge or trial. But according to the New York Times, congressional negotiators have dropped the provision in the effort to merge the bill's House and Senate versions. The overall Defense Authorization Act is expected to come up for a vote this week. So of course this vote came up and that passed

11:21 And what was removed from the combined House and Senate bill is the actual, you know, the black bagging of American citizens and just hauling them off into jail. And I was like, oh my God, I think this is what you discovered when you heard Harry Reid jump in. We're doing those morning sessions where you're watching C-SPAN and I want to play that again and if you listen to it I think this is exactly when it happened because you know everyone's saying oh, we don't know when it happened We don't know who took that out of the bill. We we have no idea It just all of a sudden it was just wasn't there and then we passed it and we all had to go home And and there you have it screw you citizens burn this summer. Oh

12:01 The Miller Homestead fire burned 160,000 acres. So this was the guy just talking on the floor and then Harry Reid comes in and literally will talk about these amendments taken in, taken out, and he talks really fast and there's a word that I can't understand that maybe you can help me with. 250 square miles. The majority leaders recognize. Could I ask my friend to yield for unanimous consent request and he would have the floor as soon as I finish. Absolutely. Sorry to do that. Without objection so ordered. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate receives the papers with respect to HR 4310. So he's received the papers with respect to HR 4310 which is the National Defense Authorization Act for 2013. The Senate's passage of HR 4310 as amended be vitiated. As amended

12:47 be evisciated. What is the word? I couldn't find this word, John. Evisciated? Have you ever heard of this word? Evisciated? Well, eviscerated means to gut something. But I don't think he says that. He says it a couple more times. I think he's saying evisciated. I could not find this word. Without objections. And further, I ask unanimous consent that the adoption of the Senate amendment be evisciated. Evisciated? What is evisciated? You sure he's not saying eviscerated? Okay, well what's the definition of eviscerated then? Well it means like to take the guts out. Why don't you play that again? I can barely hear it. I can turn it all off. Are the clips just too soft? Do you need it to be louder? No, no, no. I got everything turned down but I just want to hear him again say that word because I think it's just his pronunciation of a different word. Okay, maybe. And further asking him's consent that the adoption of the Senate amendment be vitiated and that the amendment, the text of S. Evisciated.

13:41 He's saying a vision only enroll well, whatever the case is we need to somehow took that amendment out if the word is unanimous consent of the three people there exactly and that the amendment the text of s 3425 as amended by the Senate be modified with the changes that are at the desk that no other amendments be in order and the Senate proceed to vote in relation to the amendment as modified and if the substitute amendment is modified is agreed to HR 4310 as amended be read a third time and passed finally That the previous request with respect to the Senate's request for conference, including the appointment of conference, be agreed to with all above occurring with no intervening action or debate. That to me is exactly what happened. It sounds like, that doesn't sound like it, like just take all this stuff out. Everyone's cool. We're all good and and and doom. Harry Reid is the guy who did it John and you caught it.

14:33 Yeah, it was it was a weird fluke that I caught it, but you know he's not obviously the guy who did it It's his is overlords who told him to do it for some reason obviously obviously, but still it's like Viciate yeah, they snuck that back in it's hilarious could viciate be the word is that a word no I don't know you have you what my advice to you is to get to the congressional record find that moment where Harry Reid jumps in it was a during open session and Just read the word I'm gonna where do you find this on the the Federal Register? I don't think so I have a feeling that it has to be everything that they say in that on that in the Congress is in the Federal Register every word if it's viciate v-i-t-i-a-t-e It then that means spoil or impair the quality or efficiency of which would make a lot of sense And we'd like to spoil this

15:30 We'd like to impair the quality of For the citizens of America. We'd like to really really dumb that down a little bit, please All right. I have not seen this pop up in the Federal Register I have seen a lot of other stuff pop up in the Federal Register some interesting stuff pops up immediately No, it does not but we I do have some stuff from the Federal Register. We we we sold some some some gunk to Japan an upgrade actually We sold an upgrade of major defense equipment, $421 million, which consists, as far as I can tell, mainly of computer monitors, which seems like a good deal to me. Wait a minute, hold on a second.

16:16 I got it. We sold we the United States. Well, we don't make computer monitors. No, no, here's how This is a very good point. Here's how it works. So the the contractor is Who are the guys in New Jersey? Raytheon, I think They get the 421 million dollar contract, but if you read this literally it says, because you have to request to sell weaponry, it's the Aegis, A-E-G-I-S, weapons system upgrade as the government of Japan has requested a possible sale for the upgrade of previously provided Aegis combat systems as part of the modernization of two Adego class ships.

17:00 with integrated air missile defense capability. And then it literally says here's what we're selling, the Aegis System Weapons Computer Program, so that's a disk, a software, it's a thumb drive, multi-mission signal processors, which is just some chips I guess, two common processor systems, Two sets of common display systems, tri-screen display consoles, display processor cabinets, video wall screen and projection system, woo, flat panel displays, distributed video system. These are all at the top of the list. It's not like I'm skipping around. This is the list. Two sets of ANSPQ-15 digital video distribution systems. And it seems to be they're just selling fiber optic distribution boxes, junction boxes,

17:49 You're selling a bunch of expensive digital displays. Well, I don't know. The Aegis system, I don't even know that for sure the thing works. That's the Navy's anti-missile defense system. It's very expensive. Yeah, $421 million just for the upgrade, which I think that really the software is the cost. And then they're just throwing in some goodies. It has to be the software, right? That would be the main cost. I don't see what else can be so expensive. Yeah, I guess, I don't know. I think it's a great business to be in. We should be in that business. And guess what? We're not going to be in that business ever. It's not going to happen. Well, while we're at it, we should probably thank some executive producers for today's pre-Christmas show. In fact, we're working on a, this is a holiday for most people. So hopefully we have some listeners.

18:54 Well, we do have some human resources in the chat room, so that's the good news. And we have a spreadsheet here. What do we have? Oh, we have one of our producers becoming a knight today. That's nice. Yeah, we have one executive producer, two, three associate executive producers. Steven Jaffe from Ranchos Palos Verde in California, 555. Happy holidays. You guys are the greatest. It's all fun and games until some elitist agenda gets hit in the mouth. Laughing my ass off this donation should complete my knighthood. I will get back ring size He'll be our executive producer for show 472. Thank you. I wonder what I wonder is he just completing it with the 5588 or is it was this a Is that is that some kind of number some kind of I don't see a number thing Okay, but the 88 has got to be some code Thomas Morgani in Islip Terrace

19:52 New York, I don't have a note from him. There might be one in there somewhere I'll look for the other break. 225, he'll be an associate executive producer. Good old Sir Bean, Thousand Oaks, 220-222. TM Allen and Jorge, this fine Sunday morning church service called the best podcast in the universe. Let me place the tithe offering of 22222 in the collection plate, which is 10% of my unexpected Christmas bonus received on Armageddon Day. Since the numbers were just too delicious to believe, I immediately knew that the No Agenda Karma gods were talking to me. So I offered this pittance in hopes to appease them. May I have a Don't Eat Me Hillary toot-a-the-head-it's-almost-too-delicious-to-believe-my-friend-karma shot.

20:45 For a better 2013, please set up a new monthly donation amount of $13.13 so I can properly update my $11.11 giving level. Very nice. Let me roll out this karma combo for you. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! It's almost too delicious to believe my friend. You've got karma. Nice. And finally, Eric DeShill sent us $222 and wished us a Merry Christmas and he'll be the Associate Executive Producer for show 472. I want to remind people that we have another show coming up next Thursday during the holiday week and it gets pretty grim as it were during this period. And we are working. We decided to do these shows

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22:22 I would, I don't know for sure, but I would assume he's had some million coins left. Oh yeah, yeah. By the way, nothing happened. No, well first of all, there should be a discount on the million coins, because nothing happened. Well, maybe it was because of the man coins. Hold on one second. Dvorak.org Slash and a we highly appreciate everything our executive producer and associate executive producers done for us today by contributing to the program You can always do one very important thing for us propagate the formula our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth There we go

23:16 There we go. I do have a clip called the idiotic report on the Mayans which is the way the news media around here covered this story. Yeah. Oh, you want me to roll it? No set up? That's it? We're right into it. Good morning, Brijulala. This is Mohammed. How may I help you? So we're calling people all around the world after midnight their time on December 21st to see how they're doing because there are some people who believe that the world is going to end today. So we're calling you in Dubai to find out if you're still alive and well and everything's okay in Dubai. Yes, sir. Praise be to God, everything is okay, sir. We are still alive. How are things at the hotel?

23:57 Yes, sir. Everything is going on so far so good. There you have it. So far so good. Mayan Doomsday, December 21st, has arrived without incident in Dubai. Same for points east from Tokyo to Mother Teresa's convent in Calcutta. Life goes on. Oh, jeez. What station was this? Was this CNN or some bullcrap like that? It was ABC. Wow. ABC, your favorite. Well, I have my eyes wide open because there's, you know, especially towards the end of the year, all kinds of little things take place. We also had a very large event, which is still ongoing, certainly in the United States of Gitmo Nation, occupying the slaves with all kinds of yes, no, he said, she said, white, black, old, new, red, blue, just everything contrary, just trying to screw your head

24:49 But they slip stuff in at the very end, you know, they have all these stats at the end of the year and and when it comes to the magic number, which of course is 3 or 33, you know, whenever the elites come up with a list at the end of the year and they really shove it in your face, it's just too delicious to believe my darling. We know now we didn't know last week. Thanks to the latest monthly state of the climate global analysis report from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. We now know where last month stands in the history books. It was the 5th hottest November since the start of record keeping back in 1880. The 5th hottest November... it sounds like something really interesting, doesn't it? Like, oh my god, it was the 5th hottest November since the start of record keeping in 1888. The 5th hottest! The 5th hottest, huh? It was the hottest November the southern hemisphere has ever seen and it was the 333rd consecutive month of hotter than average global temperature. Okay, well then we're all gonna die, obviously. 333rd.

25:44 Please, I mean, it's so obvious. Are they just like, hey, let's do one for Curry. Come on. You're like, I love this one. I never noticed it. Is that was that that douchebag who is on MSNBC? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I got a guy. I got another one for you from that same douchebag. Because, you know, what happened when all those children were killed? Remember that? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? There was some sort of killing yeah, but it was in Afghanistan Remember like one crazy soldier went down and just like killed everybody over the guy who walked out he will let's get this straight He he came in late for dinner And I'm ready to notice him coming in he said hey, how you doing? Yeah, and then he walked out again mm-hmm, and then came back after

26:33 after killing a bunch of people. He killed like nine children and 20 others. He just went on a complete rampage all by himself. So what do you think? Yeah, that guy. So we've learned now according to that douchebag I have at CNBC what the army wants to do with him. Now if you had this guy do this, what would you want to do with him? I'd court-martial him and throw him in the jail. What the US Army wants to do is Staff Sergeant Robert Bales, the man accused of murdering 16 people, including 9 children, in a shooting spree in Afghanistan this March. The Army wants to execute him. Prosecutors revealed this week. They just want to kill him. Gee, wouldn't that be convenient? They just want to kill him.

27:14 So, you know, remember all the reports he was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, he had a concussion. What is this? Now they just want to kill him? That couldn't be some kind of cover-up, could it? And since when does the army just go around killing dudes? Oh, I'm sorry, that's what we do. I mean, but killing our own dudes. Oh, I'm sorry, we do that too. This is nuts. Usually we don't. No, of course not. We're not going to go in for treason and we don't really you know the thing people call treason now but we always have to remember we're not even in a war there's no declared war so there's no way of doing anything treasonous. Right, right. Good point. You can go AWOL but they're not going to shoot you for that. But he didn't. He you know it's it's not even really proven that he has done this and and now they want to kill him?

27:59 Sounds fishy. Yeah, but this is all the stuff that gets slipped in at the end of the year, you know Just like I don't don't worry about it. You got to wrap up some stories bill Wrap up some situations. This is gonna wrap it all up. Although I had to laugh at the the Obamas Now the Obamas, of course are in Hawaii on vacation and they're... Wait a minute, are you telling me that he went on vacation during the fiscal cliff mess? Yeah, everybody went on vacation. They're coming back right after Christmas. So everyone's allowed to go, but then they have to come back. And you can tell that Michelle is pissed about it because the Obamas, they did the weekly address, the little YouTube thing they do, their little user-generated content. They did that together this week. And listen closely to what the First Lady says. Hi, everybody. I'm sorry, that's the President, obviously. This weekend, as you gather with family and friends, Michelle and I wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.

29:01 We both love this time of year and there's nothing quite like celebrating the holidays at the White House. It's an incredible experience and one that we try to share with as many folks as possible. Folks, and mind you, they're not celebrating it there, they're in Hawaii. They're not celebrating it with you folks. This month more than 90,000 people will come through the White House to see the holiday decorations. And our theme for this year's holiday season was Joy to All. Now did you catch it? No I didn't. Joy to all what? The theme for this year was joy to all. Oh she said was? She says was not is. You gotta play it back I gotta hear it. Because she's pissed. It was joy to all until the fiscal cliff crap Obama. And our theme for this year's holiday season was joy to all. What is that all about? Is she coming from the future? It's not even Christmas yet so she's talking in the past tense. Maybe she's from the future.

30:02 I don't know, but it's like wow. I think she's just really really angry. And you talk about over-interpreting the use of a single verb. It is weird though, come on, be honest. It's weird to say that. It's like is she already in 2013? She doesn't care about the folks coming to visit? I think it has to do with Jake Tapper. I don't know if you heard him earlier. This was actually before the Thursday show. I saved this clip. Jake Tapper asked the president a question about where he's been on gun legislation and gun stuff. And the president's answer, I thought, was actually quite funny.

30:43 It seems to a lot of observers that you made the political calculation in 2008, in your first term in 2012, not to talk about gun violence. You had your position on renewing the ban on semi-automatic rifles that then-Senator Biden put into place, but you didn't do much about it. This is not the first issue, the first incident of horrific gun violence of your four years. Where have you been? Well, here's where I've been Jake. I've been president of the United States dealing with the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. An auto industry on the verge of collapse. Two wars. I don't think I've been on vacation. Yeah, you've been on vacation more than any other president in history. I haven't been on vacation. Damn it, I need to go on vacation.

31:36 Joy to the all and they should end the press conference. I'll see you guys later. Got to go to Hawaii It's exactly right. I got to go to Hawaii now Yeah, enjoy that yeah, he's out he's playing golf it's like I don't know it's I guess it's just not that important about the the fiscal cliff which Before he left he did do a little statement. I've really been watching a lot of international CNN he did a cool little statement where he flubbed it about the fiscal cliff and Over the last few weeks, I've been working with leaders of both parties on a proposal to get our deficit under control.

32:18 Avoid tax cuts or avoid tax hikes on the middle class Oops oops To avoid tax cuts. Thanks. All right, you get clip of the day for that. That's a good one He's reading the paper, how can he how could he mess that one up? I don't know So I have a fiscal cliff clip yeah, uh This is Steven did not din and dinin he's a I heard talking about the fiscal cliff and he's making some observations on C-SPAN during one of those Washington thing, you know, those where they have the interviews with the guys and the people call in. It's actually kind of interesting what he said, which is just kind of confirming what I've been saying. The president is riding very high right now in terms of where people see him. Your caller was an indication of that. There are a lot of people who, who, who believe that he should win this fight with Boehner just, just because he's, um,

33:19 because he's convinced them that his policies are right. So he comes in with a lot of leverage here. The key question for Republicans is how much political damage they suffer, who gets the blame if we go over the cliff. And more and more Republicans privately do believe that going over the cliff is better than the deal that they would get from Obama. There are also a number of Democrats who believe that going over the cliff is a good thing. Both of them are basically angling, both those sides are angling for next year and saying, well, what's the better starting point for all the conversation we're going to have next year? And those on both wings are beginning to think, well, the best starting point is all the spending cuts and all the tax increases. By the way, that also happens to do wonders for reducing our deficit next year. So what I know- Go ahead. Yeah, I'm sorry.

34:07 I was going to say, it's essentially the way he sees it, this guy who's hanging out there, it's like behind closed doors, everyone's saying, I think we should go over to the cliff, who cares? I mean, these guys, this entire Congress has no, I mean, perhaps this will be solved in the last minute, but it just seems to me that they have no concern for the possible outcome, which could be a stock market collapse, it's definitely going to cost 30 million Americans which is sexually includes probably 95% of our listeners in the United States are going to have to pay the minimum tax now the way I have minimum tax which is a huge be well here's how you figure it out by the way oh okay but I've been looking at nice into this even more your calculation all right but let me take your gross income gross not net it doesn't take me a long time to write it down go ahead keep going take 10% of that

35:03 Yeah, and add it to your tax bill. That's all we know no yes, no This can't be true John this cannot be telling you so when I when I get my my what is that? I use that computer program every year Turbo tax So I'm going to get the new TurboTax and I'm going to wind up with this astronomical tax bill because of course we don't have any slave wages taken out or any FICA or whatever it is. We're independent dudes. And you're telling me that 10% of the gross, I can just add that to my tax bill? Yeah. It seems so weird that no one is talking about this.

35:47 Well, a couple people are talking about it, but nobody's listening. Oh, okay. I mean, that professor at Georgetown, this tax expert who was on C-SPAN is moaning about it. Commonly and it's like and if you look up the fiscal cliff and even the Wikipedia mentions that there's this type But they kind of well, you know, it's there and but people don't realize it. It's but I don't This is the year we're in it's not okay 2013. Okay. Listen, you've been bitching about this for so much for the past month I just want to understand what does this have to do with the cuts that are sun setting? Is this a provision that is in there that all of a sudden says everyone now... because alternative minimum tax I believe has been around, it didn't go away. Just explain where does it come from?

36:39 The history of the alternative minimum tax it was done as some sort of a fix. But how come now all of a sudden? 1986. Yes, but how come it pops up now? It doesn't seem like that's a part of the conversation. This is why it's so difficult. I think that's why they're not talking about it. I think it was purposely slipped in to gouge the public. But where can I find this information about this? You have to look up the Google fiscal cliff consequences or something like that to find out what all the things are that constitute the fiscal cliff. There's quite a few things. Hold on a second. And this is in there. No, we have... Because you've been bitching about this so much now I just want to get into it for once and for all.

37:24 According to the book of knowledge, Wikipedia, the alternative minimum tax AMT is an income tax imposed by the United States federal government on individuals, corporations, estates and trusts. That's everybody. AMT is imposed as a nearly flat rate on an adjusted amount of taxable income above a certain threshold, also known as exemption. This exemption is substantially higher than the exemption from regular income tax. Okay? It was enacted in 1969, imposed, I mean I'm not reading here in the book of knowledge that it's all of a sudden it's going to be different or are they changing the level? Yeah, the level is being changed, that's the problem. Okay, exemption in 2011, doesn't say, oh no, I'm just trying to find out the big change. What is this exemption, I don't understand.

38:20 That's the point. No, I understand it's the point that I don't understand. But was this really high and now it's going to a very low level? Is that what's happening? Is that the... Yes. Okay, so it looks to me if you're single, it looks to me that it will be somewhere around $48,000 is when this thing kicks in. Does that sound right to you? Yeah, people who make $48,000, my understanding is if you make $48,000, add $800 to your tax bill that you've already paying. Wow. If you make $100,000, add 10 grand. Wow.

39:05 I'm telling you this is a disaster. It seems like, okay now I understand, it seems like the exemption, what it was was for some reason they had jacked it up to 300,000 which of course you know hits almost no one in the country and that is now changing to 48. That's what it seems like, that's what the thing is. Okay, all right. I'm going to have to look at this. It will affect 30 million Americans. Wow. And we're pretty much in bankrupt the country. I mean people will just when they get their tax this is it here's what's going to either happen if they don't fix this problem before the first of the year which they don't seem intent on because they don't there's two see this this I mean these conservatives this is everybody oh I didn't know

39:49 They're not talking about it. They don't want to say, I don't know, blame Obama, blame the Republicans. So what's going to happen is that the smart money in the stock market is going to know what's going on and they're either going to bail out of the market and go all cash in January, which will collapse the economy, or people are going to be just like everybody else currently, I don't know anything about this tax deal. April comes around they do their taxes? It literally says here in the Wikipedia the tax rates and exemption amounts so 2011 for if you're filing married is $74,450 single or head of household $48,450 and 2012 it literally says TBD is that what's happening? This is being being deed as we are as we are sitting by and watching?

40:40 Yeah. Wow. Okay. Well, that's bogative, man. That's really bogative. And I know it's the amazing part is nobody's discussing this and so there's no sense of, you know, urgency that you need to stop this fiscal cliff from happening because everyone and I think they're complicit. I think that conservative Republicans aren't saying anything about this and you think they would? Nothing. And the Democrats who think it'd be cool to go over the fiscal cliff because they can collect all this money and balance the budget a little better and blame the Republicans? They're not going to stop it. That's why I think we're going to go over. Obama must know better.

41:17 I'm pretty sure that just from the way everybody's acting and it's just about who's going to get... well we've talked about this a million times. We've talked about it. The only other thing that I'm seeing that is being discussed, which I thought was pretty funny, you know our boy Dennis Kucinich there, the gnome from Ohio who is so unfortunately that he's just irrelevant. No one listens to the guy anymore, if they ever did. And I've always liked him because he's kind of a Democrat Ron Paul. He's saying that the CPI is the big problem of the fiscal cliff and that part of the deal that's being made is that the social security benefits will be pegged to a new consumer price index.

42:01 And that turns into the following. The gimmick is called the chain consumer price index. Have you heard of this? The chain consumer price index? Yeah, I've heard this too. Yeah. It's just going to reduce Social Security benefits for everybody by, like you said, probably $10 or $20 a month. Oh, well, here's Kucinich's play on it. The chain CPI works this way. As cost of living goes up, seniors inevitably turn to cheaper alternatives. For example, if seniors eat steak but then

42:43 But then can't afford a higher price, it can switch to something cheaper, like cat food. Well, during the 70s it was just a common thing because there was news item after news item of seniors mostly eating dog food. It was never cat food. Oh really? Oh interesting. Dog food is mostly, you know, it's got meat in it. Well this is very interesting. I had no idea. That's very, very interesting.

43:25 and the cost of living calculation would change to the cheaper item, cat food. So the less you pay for food, the less benefits you get. The chained CPI benefit cut will chain aging seniors to a poverty of choices, a lower standard of living, with cheaper products. The chained CPI formula doesn't take into account seniors' rising health care costs. If it did, benefits would go up. There is no justification to security benefits no to throwing seniors off the fiscal cliff no to a cat food Christmas I love the cat food Christmas Dennis and no one's listening I mean literally you can hear the people you like friskies? you can hear the other the other people in Congress just like yeah it's Kushner talking who gives a crap and it's just that guy he's gone we discredited him out no one cares

44:20 Yeah, that's exactly what they did. What are you going to do to get rid of some of these guys? In fact, talking about that, getting rid of these guys, I have a couple of clips that are interesting. If you want to play Stephen Moore, Wall Street Journal, he's talking about the fiscal cliff, but then he brought up something else which I thought was interesting because it relates to the second clip that I have. And this is on term limits. We're frustrated with our politicians. A lot of people say if Pakistan bought their houses, they're acting like children, they should have coal in their stockings. There was Stanislaus on Capitol Hill yesterday putting coal in all their stockings. But you know, then you look at the election. Guess what? We all we reelected 97% of these people, you know, so when we ask who's to blame we can't we can't say Oh these politicians out of control when we send 97% What did we tell them on November 5th? We told them whatever you're doing keep doing it

45:09 because we were elected all these folks up i think we yes it's it's it's fine to be angry at these politicians i'm angry at them but maybe we should look at ourselves to his voters and say why do we keep sending these people back to congress year after year i've always been by the way a very strong proponent of term limits i think six years in the house i can answer this by the way This is happening here too. Do you know that now that Mario Monti, who was the Prime Minister of Italy, after he passed the budget, he immediately went, okay, well thanks. Remember the guy came in, he's a banking shill, we tracked the whole process. It's like, oh, Italy's in trouble, they put in the banking shill, he comes up with this huge austerity budget, screw the slaves, thank you citizen. His budget passes, he's like, oh, well I'm going to retire, no one loves me.

45:56 And now everyone's talking about, oh, Berlusconi's going to be back in. And of course he is, because he owns the television stations and the newspapers that say that he's going to be back in. And the citizens are so dumb, the citizenry. They're like, oh yeah, well, he's going to be back in. And I swear to God, they will mind control walk to the voting booth if they vote at all, and they will vote him back in. It's unbelievable. Yeah, it's just hilarious. First they got him in. He like owns the place. He's Mussolini. Remove him so this banker can come in and make some changes and then take a full retirement.

46:32 So they move him back up, put Berlusconi back in with a different fiscal situation and he can blame it on somebody else. Yes, and people are like, oh, but it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Because like, well, we might as well vote for him then. You know, he's going to be it anyway. And people just miss the whole point of how they're being mind controlled into doing this stuff. And yes, you voted all these, I mean, please, let me just give an example. I know you want to go to another clip, right? Because I want to play another idiot that we voted back in. Can I do that now or do you want to? Yeah, no, play it now. I can wait. This is Sheila Jackson Lee. Oh, this horrible person.

47:08 Now she of course is going to talk some bull crap about how we don't, just listen how she goes, she takes dead children to change it to some agenda she has. Speaker, when I mention the words Hurricane Sandy and the tragedy in Newton, Connecticut, many would wonder what do they... It's Newtown by the way, okay? Not Newton. Have in common? Nothing! Enormous gun tragedy of a loss of 26 lives and... Americans suffering from a devastating storm. What do they have in common, John? Let's see, Newton, Connecticut, and Hurricane Sandy. What do they have in common? Please help me, because Sheila Jackson Lee knows. Yeah, they do have some. There's a bit, you're missing it. Sandy. Sandy, Hurricane Sandy, and Sandy Hook. That is not correct. Well that's in common? Yes. The word Sandy. But that is not where she's going.

48:09 Certainly our hearts go out for those babies who are lost. Babies? But it really speaks to Americans in need. No, it's Americans in need. And I guess that's why I'm so troubled to be on the floor today. No, no, it's troubling to see you on the floor. Because the framework that we have says to America that when you're in need, we will not, as this Congress and as this government, be prepared to help you. See, this is what I don't... Did she just go from dead babies to food stamps? She's talking about the fiscal cliff, John.

49:09 How does she go from point A to point C? Because she's insane, obviously. Have you seen what she wears? The woman is insane! Now I think she's already dropping out for... Isn't she out next year? Please say she's out. I don't think she's married. I can't remember. She might be. I think so. But it just goes to show we have insane people. Insane people in there. And you know who they're talking about now? Because of course we have the new douchebag, ladies and gentlemen. Oh yeah, it didn't last long. Today though, I'm looking ahead to my second term. And I'm very proud to announce my choice for America's next Secretary of State, John Kerry. In a sense, John's entire life has prepared him for this role. As the son of a Foreign Service officer, he has a deep respect for the men and women of the State Department. The role they play in advancing our interests and values.

50:10 the risks that they undertake and the sacrifices that they make along with their families. And here's my favorite. Having served with valor in Vietnam. Serving with valor in Vietnam. Wasn't there like this swift boat thing? What was that all about? What is this serving with valor in Vietnam? Sounds good by the way. I like it. He got a medal, I believe. He got a Purple Heart, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah. I got shot. Yeah. Well, that sucks. But wasn't there a whole controversy over his record? Yeah, it was rigged. And who knows? I mean, he may have been a... Who cares? I mean, the guy's still a pompous...

50:50 Windbag. Yeah, so so they bring him in by the way, if you want to see some cool John Kerry video go look at the Clarence Thomas Anita Hill hearings, which he presided over It's the funniest thing ever this big head Talking about long dong silver. It's just funny. The whole thing was what a circus that was I So he is going to become Secretary of State and that opens up a Senate spot. Now who do you think we should put into his Senate spot? This is a fantastic, and this of course is what it's all about because we want to see if we can change a little bit of the makeup of the Senate. If you were to guess and you had a list of anyone in the universe, who would you want to bring in there?

51:38 Well if I'm part of the corrupt Massachusetts machine, or I'm sorry Massachusetts nuts machine, it would have to be a Kennedy. How about a Celebretti? Who? A Celebretti. Well, Ben Affleck would be good. To get into speculation about my political future. I like to be involved right now. I'm really happy being involved from the outside in government, advocating for the Congolese, taking this movie that I made, Argo, and it's really become a springboard for dialogue about our relationship with Iran. Well, Bobby sure does sound like a politician. He won't give you a straight answer.

52:15 I tell you, he's mastered one part of the craft. You know, he was here to talk about, he has this organization called Eastern Congo Initiative where he's trying to do something. He appeared yesterday before the House Armed Services Committee to talk about some way to make things better over there. He's a very committed, a very serious person. You know, he went to Harvard and majored in Middle Eastern Studies. Oh, I didn't know that. He's perfect. He looks handsome. He's a celebrety. He's in Massachusetts. He went to Harvard. You know, I didn't know he went to Harvard. This guy's perfect. I say bring him in. He's the new Clooney. He's got a pretty wife.

53:03 So yeah, he'd be a good senator for douchebags of Massachusetts. I think they should be up in arms. I don't know, they should just have a special election. They shouldn't be putting anybody in there temporarily. That's what they're doing with the point where I was taking that here's the guy who's quitting, who's been re-elected, Jesse Jackson Jr. He's out of Illinois, of course, the Chicago area. So he apparently has essentially broken down. He has bipolar or something, even worse. You don't know because the... but anyway, so he put in his resignation. But when you hear the end of this report, you go right back to this, what is wrong with these, with the public?

53:50 And what should be changed because why just play this and you'll see several months as my health has deteriorated My ability to serve the constituents of my district has continued to diminish the drama around Jackson began this summer when the congressman disappeared for weeks the public even members of his staff didn't know where he was and Finally, in late July, the Mayo Clinic revealed Jackson was being treated there for what was later diagnosed as bipolar disorder and depression. His famous father, uncharacteristically quiet about the matter. The fact is, the Congresswoman is on medical supervision.

54:28 and is right now regaining strength. Jackson was released in September, then readmitted last month. His return to the clinic came amid reports that the congressman faced a federal investigation into potential misuse of campaign funds, including allegations that Jackson used thousands of dollars to redecorate his Washington, D.C. townhome and that he used $40,000 to buy a Rolex watch for a female friend. Even so, Jackson was easily re-elected to the House just a few weeks ago, even though he was in the Mayo Clinic, even though he never campaigned for the job. In his resignation letter, Jackson added that against the recommendations of my doctors, he'd hoped to return to Washington, but I now know it will not be possible.

55:12 Jackson said he is working with federal investigators and quote accepts responsibilities for his mistakes but it's unclear whether his resignation was part of a reported plea deal with prosecutors a Special election will now be held to fill his seat now. What is the special election? It's just an election, right? We're bored. Do they have special? It means it's special is because there's nothing else going on except that one thing right now. Here's the here's the kicker I thought was funny was he didn't run I mean, he didn't do any campaigning. He ran. He didn't do any campaigning. He was under investigation for misuse of funds, which he might as well use in his own way because he doesn't need the money as a campaign money. And then he got reelected by this, even though he's hospitalized by the public. Just without looking it up, what do you think is, what kind of a number did he come up with for his re-election?

56:06 What percentage of his knowledgeable locals would have voted for him, you think? 98%. No, that's funny, but it's not. 71%. That's still unbelievable, isn't it? So 71% voted him in against two other candidates. It was in 1850 that they dropped the requirements of the Constitution that only people who could vote were property owners. And it was like, I think they've got to change the electorate. Most of the people that vote, they don't know what they're doing. They just vote, like you said, in Italy because it was something they heard on the television. And you end up voting a guy who's in the hospital with bipolar under investigation, doesn't bother to campaign, and you give him 71% of the vote. Does anyone think this is a problem? I know exactly how that went.

57:00 the Jesse Jackson, he's a good guy. They don't even know that he's in the hospital. They don't even know he has bipolar disease. And by the way, he was spotted hanging out with some Hollywood producer douchebag in that guy's house for months. It's not like he was in an Illinois hospital. Please. The whole thing is rigged. Everything's rigged. Game, we're not in on. Surprise. Anyway, so that's my complaint of the day. Well, I have many more. This will probably kind of flow along with it. We have this We the People thing that the White House started on WhiteHouse.gov a while ago. I think it was actually two years ago by now. You've seen this where you can petition the government and the president promised that anything that gets 25,000 votes they'll take into consideration.

58:05 Yeah, this is including the Piers Morgan thing. Yeah, so the first time that we knew this was all bogative was when there was like 150,000 people saying, hey, why don't you decriminalize marijuana? And the president laughed it off saying, well, it says a lot about people who are voting online, doesn't it? Oh, a bunch of stoners. That's so stupid. And now we have one for to deport British citizen Piers Morgan. Actually we have more than one, there's like three of them now. It's become an SEO thing. It's like people are like, hey man, everyone's searching for this, let's jump on it, we'll use that for SEO. So there's an actual We the Citizens petition to deport British citizen Piers Morgan.

58:54 We've had them for drones and all of them way over 25,000 votes. But of course, none of that gets any attention from the White House. But when it's about guns... Hi everybody. We started We The People so that you could directly petition your government on the matters you care about the most. So that you could make your voice heard. And in the days since the heartbreaking tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, hundreds of thousands of you from all 50 states have signed petitions asking us to take serious steps to address the epidemic of gun violence in this country. So I just wanted to take a minute today to respond and let you know we hear you.

59:33 You see how it works though. It's like he only will respond to something that fits his agenda or whatever he feels is important and not all the other things. And then people think that it works. This is bull crap. Yeah, but then people think that it's working, petitioning your government. I know if you want to petition your government, you got to get on K Street and have a hundred million dollar budget. That's how you put it. Here's some of the petitions that they're responding to. Listen to these. Talk about an agenda. A balanced approach to reforming the postal service. Oh man, which by the way, you know, again, they missed another $5.5 billion dollar bogative payment and now everyone's saying, oh, they're bankrupt. Get rid of them.

1:00:18 A message from the President Obama about your petition on reducing gun violence. They want the beer recipe. The army no longer using monkeys as part of training at Aberdeen Proving Ground. Wait, they responded to that? Yeah. What's the response to it? Well, okay, we won't use monkeys. will use the will use the we're gonna chill my colonel thomas collins thank you for your participation in the week the people platform on white house dot gov on september twenty twenty eleven the army stated would no longer use monkeys that's it worked at work that's great i love that i i i would be so for the mystery funny hello everybody we hear you about pierce morgan so we are deporting that line a bit back to the u k

1:01:08 Now that, by the way, that would be awesome. I mean, it's not gonna happen unless it falls right into it. It's gotta be a talking point. Nothing. There's a bunch of these things. They're all bull crap. Building a government, here's one. Well, apparently there's a big outcry for this. Building a government to service ordinary Americans, not special interests. Oh, really? Let's take a look at the full response to that by Tanya Robinson. Thank you for taking the time to participate. We launched this online. Blah, blah, blah. First, you should know the president believes the Supreme Court ruling in Citizens United

1:01:46 It's contrary to the public interest. Oh, this is just a Citizens United slam. Even though Obama really cleaned up on a bunch of secretive funds apparently that were put together by someone or other. So I think this is just talking out of his ass. He probably loves this. I did catch the president with his real with the real message of what he's going to do. Have you been catching all of this stuff now? We got these celebraties. Did you see this? The demand to plan crap? You didn't see this, did you? No. Oh my God. Okay.

1:02:25 So the Demand a Plan, demandaplan.org, it's part of a huge lobbying initiative, Mayors Against Guns. And this really is a very, very big K Street Washington lobby to get rid of guns. And so they put together a video of celebrities, and I can't even, I mean everyone's in it, you'll recognize most of the voices, I'll just play this. And it is massive, massive neuro-linguistic programming Very interesting from a Curry Dvorak consulting perspective just to listen to what they're saying, the words they're using. It's one of these where everyone read the same script and they cut it up. You familiar with that one? So it's about you know. Oh yeah, that's a good one. All right. Now they also, I think I haven't heard this one but I'm assuming they also do the

1:03:14 Breaks that that are mistimed. Oh, it's so you're my god hearing a flow you hear this it comes in in a herky-jerk way Oh my god, John it is it is and then they have Chris rock. Oh You know, who is he interjects they keep throwing him in from time to time It's it's it's really really jarring very effective plays to your patriotism, you know It's a crazy ways and I just want to let's just listen to it Columbine Virginia Tech Tucson Aurora Fort Hood Oak Creek now I have to stop here Fort Hood was not a school yet. They throw that in I

1:03:53 In fact, we don't even know what Fort Hood was because they're never going to tell us. Columbine. Virginia Tech. Tucson. Aurora. Fort Hood. Oak Creek. Newtown. Newtown. Newtown. Well, Tucson refers to Gabby Giffords, so that's not a school either. Aurora refers to the movie theater. The theater. So what that just said, they're just throwing out a bunch of non-sequitur shootings. But I think we should put Kandahar, Basra. Baghdad. We could put all of that in there. Yemen. Yeah, Yemen. We should do this for drone attacks. That'd be funny. If only we could get some celebritties to do it with us. Columbine. Virginia Tech. Tucson. Aurora. Fort Hood. Oak Creek. Newtown. Newtown. Newtown. Newtown. How many more? How many more? How many more colleges? How many more classrooms? How many more movie theaters? How many more houses of faith?

1:04:55 How many more shopping malls? How many more street corners? How many more? How many more? This is a campaign of fear, by the way. Enough. Enough. Enough. Enough. Demand a plan. Right now. As a mom. As a dad. As a friend. As a husband. As a wife. As an American. As an American. As an American. As an American. As a human being. For the children of Sandy Hook. Demand a plan. No more lists of names. It's not too soon. It's too late. Now is the time. Before we all know someone who loved someone on that list. No more lists. No more... Who they might have been. No more... If we had just done something yesterday. It's time. We can do better than this. We can do better than this. It's time. It's time. It's time for our leaders to act. Demand a plan.

1:05:51 Right now right now you demand it enough enough enough enough. What do you think? Well, I don't know how effective it was. It could have been better. Well, yeah, obviously when you see the celebrities it works better I mean that's that's obvious that you're recognizing these people and Yeah, primarily from very violent television series or movies that they play in but you know that's just an aside. You know I'm sure that they're all demanding as part of the plan no more violence on television or in the movie theaters. No, there's not part of it. I don't see that anywhere. I think that should be part of the plan. I'm demanding that as part of my plan. Yeah, take all these shows off the air. Yeah, demand the plan.

1:06:38 and stop these movies. What's the plan? Have you noticed that they've moved it away from the movies? For years, Hollywood has been angry and seen the video game industry as their main competitor. Which is, I mean, everyone knows this. The video game industry is taking hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars, billions, away from the Hollywood movie industry and they really, really hate it. So that's why you get stuff like this. The nation's lawmakers turn their sights on violent video games as one way of reducing gun violence.

1:07:14 West Virginia Senator Jay Rockefeller introduced legislation authorizing the National Academy of Sciences to investigate the impact of violent video games on children. There have been reports the Connecticut school shooter played violent video games. Yeah, of course. Of course. Of course. So it's like everyone's coming out. Anyone who has an agenda to go and screw some other guy is like, let's use this. So Hollywood demand a plan. Please, you go to demandaplan.org, I'm sure it doesn't say stop violence on television and movies. I don't see it anywhere. So these people are just a bunch of hypocrites. Yeah, you know, you can't just do one, not the other. You can't go after violent video games without going after violent movies, violent TV shows. Put the story back in a movie. Yeah, I just find it very interesting how, especially to watch this from a little bit of a distance,

1:08:14 It is fascinating, fascinating to see it. Take action, take action. Let's take some action. And then meanwhile, you know, the head of the NRA came out with this and gave a speech. Yeah, I didn't see that obviously because it was not telecast here. You saw it? Yeah, yeah, I saw it and it was actually I actually listened to the audio the whole thing. Yeah, it was actually a very reasonable Well reasoned speech it was long. Mm-hmm. They played it on Fox Live and they played on CNN at the same time. It was weird. But anyway, so what they did was they just took a you know, the other side just took a

1:08:55 Snippets from the speech and made the guy look like a maniac. He wants to arm children He wants guns in schools. He's not what he wanted essentially just called for You know he said what's wrong having a cop at the school or whatever because and then it turns out that like Cleveland this Cleveland school district for the last decade has been loaded to the you know to the hilt with the with with armed guards right all as a crappy barrier, but Just I mean it this is there's They're trying to follow suit. I know that I mean this is not gonna happen But and I'm not worried about it, but they would love to do what they did in Australia Which is literally round up guns? Found them up you got a gun you're gonna have to turn yourself into the police

1:09:45 Take the gun away from him. There will be no guns. Except for the people that aren't going to turn him in that are criminals. So I mean, you're just going to leave everybody as a sitting duck. I disagree. This is not what the president is saying. This is not what he's saying. And I have the proof right here. And we're starting to see optimistic signs. And we've seen actually some upside statistics from a whole range of areas, including housing. Now's not the time for more self-inflicted wounds. certainly not those coming from Washington. And there's so much more work to be done in this country on jobs and on incomes, education and energy. We're a week away from one of the worst tragedies in memory. So we've got work to do on gun safety. Ha ha ha! Gun safety, John. That's what we're gonna do. He's not stupid, this president.

1:10:40 You know, gun safety. Gun safety. Yeah. Yeah, that means taking your gun away. I'm sure it doesn't mean having classes in gun safety at the high school. Well, I'm just saying. Here's how you load one of these magazines. That's what we should be doing. That'd be great. Never point the gun at one of your buddies. Or a senior citizen. So here's an interesting situation. I believe that the Sandy Hook thing has a number, and just by the way, the last time I'm talking about this, but I ended up with some of these interesting clips. I believe that there was an accounting problem.

1:11:24 with the casualties announced at Sandy Hook and they had to change the accounting by creating situations that some were I think, there was this one guy who showed up early on, I think on the 17th he showed up. This is the guy who had the six kids in his front yard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were in a semi-circle and he brought them in. They played with little toy animals, yeah. So Glenn Rosen, of course if you read the, so I wanted to find this guy. So you start reading the forms, especially some of this stuff that's on YouTube. They have all these nutball, I mean people that, if they'd be better off listening to our show than whatever they're listening, they go, nah, it's lies. Gene Rosen, this is the name, Gene Rosen. Gene Rosen is an actor with the Screen Actors Guild. And there is a guy named Gene Rosen who's in Screen Actors Guild and he's out of California, that's true.

1:12:20 But this guy, which his real name is Eugene O. Rosen or Eugene E. Rosen, I actually found his address and where his house is and looked at it on Google Earth and I could see the driveways he's talking about and everything else. And then I did a little more research because he was actually hard to find. He has a wife named Marilyn and it's her she's the one with the phone number which makes it easier once you get figure out where she is what is and they lived in Connecticut for the last 20 years I mean, this is not the guy from the Screen Actors Guild He's just and he's also 69 the Screen Actors Guild guy is 62. Hold on. Did you go down some rabbit hole John? That sound like you were really yeah You went off the deep end on this one, okay. All right well the reason is is because I did hear what I

1:13:05 I believe was an actor, some sort, which was doing some accounting problems because I think they because of the six people that were in Mrs. Soto's class which was supposed to have been wiped out according to this other report except for one person because they they have one too many people on the death list and and you can hear it all and then this is what triggered me to dig up the Gene Rosen guy but Pastor describes something or other it's funny because we both latched on to this. Okay, you want me to play the clip? Yeah hearing how one little girl survived the massacre and my colleague Lara is back now with that story It is an unbelievable story. I just want to know we both had the exact same clip 16 kids in this classroom one has survived and

1:13:53 I spoke last night with the pastor who's been counseling this little girl's mother. One survived. Yeah, yeah, no, I know. I know, I know. I did some research on this guy too. The story of how a first grader lived by playing dead. You have one parishioner who was right there, a little girl, a first grader. Yes. She was the first student who ran out of the Sandy Hook school, six and a half years old. She ran out of the school building covered in blood from head to toe. And the first words she said to her mom when she got outside was, Mommy, I'm okay, but all my friends are dead. Hold on a second. Before we go any further,

1:14:34 So I saw this guy and I'm like, oh my god, they made a huge mistake putting this guy on camera. Could you please explain the accounting problem one more time before we move forward? This is critical because I didn't catch this part. I'm sorry, say again? I'd like you to explain the accounting problem before we move forward because that's the part that... Oh yeah, the accounting problem. Yeah, there's supposed to be 20 dead children and if there were 15 dead children in Mrs. Soto's class, if you count 16 with this little girl, there was a number, there was some issue with the number of people that were killed and it was an accounting problem and so they were won over.

1:15:13 So there would have been 21 dead kids. So this story comes out explaining the number. The problem is the other guy, this Rosen character with the six small children from also Soto's class that were in his front yard really screws up the accounting so they have taken the Rosen guy and pushed him aside and we don't hear that anymore at all about Rosen. So when they took him and pushed him aside, the six things didn't add up so there was one missing, living person missing so this story shows up out of the blue that we didn't hear about at all about the bloody girl covered in... Now let's think about this for a second. By the way it's ABC News I'd like to point that out.

1:15:59 Yes, and it's a girl covered from head to toe. Mm-hmm in blood in blood and this is her pastor her pastor who has been Has been working with her Yeah, but and then the mom told us told him the story no, but no, no the story is actually that she that this pastor is the one who is Working with her to work with this child to work through her trauma if you listen to the lead-in of the story They're saying that you know, this pastor has been chosen to work with her. I Yeah. Okay, so let me just roll this back a few seconds here because the in blood from head to toe ran outside said mommy everyone else is dead and this no one has had this at all apparently the parents were already there when this took place this thing is so full of holes.

1:16:50 You have one parishioner who was right there, a little girl, a first grader. Yes. She was the first student who ran out of the Sandy Hook School, six and a half years old. She ran out of the school building covered in blood from head to toe. And the first words she said to her mom when she got outside was, Mommy, I'm okay, but all of my friends are dead. Somehow, in that moment, by God's grace, was able to Act as if she was already deceased. Was she the only child in that class that survived? Yes. Of those who were left in the classroom, of first graders, she was the lone survivor. What did she tell her mom? What did she see in there? Well, she saw someone who she felt was angry and somebody who she felt was very mad. How at six and a half years old can you be that smart, that brave? I think it's impossible outside of divine intervention.

1:17:49 And by the way, how can this guy sound any gayer please? I mean just make him sound gayer She has wisdom beyond her years. How are the mom and dad doing? I think as well as you can expect them to do and they must be relieved to have their child but on the other hand Yes, the mom told me and I thought this is very insightful that she was suffering from what she called survivors guilt because so many of her friends no longer have their children, but she has hers. A long road ahead, just an incredible story of survival and all by a six-year-old girl. Did you hear in the package where the pastor also said she survived by playing that she was deceased? Who talks like that? Nobody. In this clip he says playing dead. No, no, no, no. You saw a second clip?

1:18:46 I'm pretty sure it was exactly the same clip. Hold on a second. Let's check. And my colleague, Lara, is back now. It's the same clip. Listen. You must have missed it. It is an unbelievable story of 16... He says it right in the beginning. He says, she did it by playing deceased. I spoke last night with the pastor who has been counseling this little girl. He's counseling her. Counseling the little girl. Mother, it is a howering story of how a first grader lived by playing dead. You have one parishioner who was right there, a little girl, a first grader. Yes. She was the first student who ran out of the Sandy Hook School, six and a half years old. She ran out of the school building covered in blood from head to toe. And the first words she said to her mom when she got outside was, Mommy, I'm OK, but all of my friends are dead. Somehow, in that moment, by God's grace, was able to

1:19:40 Act as if she was already deceased. Act as if she was already deceased. Who talks like that? No one talks like that. Okay, so this pastor is from the community church which is a member of the Alliance. Now this is a very interesting group John, the Christian and Missionary Alliance. Have you ever heard of this outfit? You know the name kind of rings a bell but I can't tell you anything about them but I can imagine. So they have their headquarters in Colorado, interestingly enough. They are also in Australia and Lebanon and they're this kind of weird offshoot

1:20:25 And if you look at the Wikipedia page, they are not without controversy. Alumni have reported that there was abuse of children in this CNMA. So I'm just going by what I hear on Wikipedia, what I read on Wikipedia. And as I was reading through this, somehow in all the craziness, right? And this is, look, this is just tying stuff into each other. I'm thinking there may just be some kind of pedo-bear aspect to this whole thing. Particularly when you look at, this is part of the tri-state area, the Sandusky scandal played out in Second Mile, Sandusky by the way, if you want to pull in the Sandy thing, just as a lark.

1:21:16 And all of a sudden this weird priest from this kind of offbeat church who have, actually I brought up there, let me just read you from this, they have a manual, this church. The Manual of the Christian and Missionary Alliance. You ever hear of a church that has a manual? Well they got one, and here they have In Matthew 15, this is the latest revision from the board of directors from the CMA, February 2012, in Matthew 15, 9, Jesus teaches that immoral behavior starts first in the heart and mind. Self-indulgent thoughts of sexual fulfillment outside of God's creative intent constitute inward sins of lust. No sexual act can be proper if it is driven by desires that are contrary to the best

1:22:10 interests of another human being or if it treats persons as impersonal objects intended only for personal gratification. Passion aroused by producing or viewing images of a sexual nature is morally unacceptable. We reject the idea that pedophilia, voyeurism, prostitution or pornography is ever morally justified. We reject all attempts at constructing one's own sexual identity by medically altering the human body, cross-dressing, or similarly practicing behavior characteristics of the opposite sex as morally objectionable and sinful.

1:22:46 So you take with that the so-called evidence that Adam Lanza's computer was bashed beyond repair, nothing could be pulled off of the hard drive, and then you, you know, I'm just, I'm thinking, John, I can't put my finger on it yet. I haven't been able to connect things, but it feels like that just maybe, maybe it was the teacher or someone knew something, and this is very similar to what happened in, I think, Dunblane in, In Scotland where a guy comes in kills all the kids it may be because someone knew something and I know in our previous shows you've talked about it maybe being the principal somebody knew something and Something had to happen to cover up. Maybe one witness multiple witnesses But it would not surprise me if there is a pretty easy pedophilia angle to all of this

1:23:38 Well, yeah, except you see that more often than I do, generally speaking. Yes. Well, I don't know. This church does have some interesting prominent former members. Billy Graham, for one. Apparently he was at one of these churches from 33 to 37. And I don't know. All I know is that this guy seemed pretty strange to me. But I still think it's a bookkeeping problem because this other guy's story makes no sense. And unfortunately, there's a little ad. I forgot to cut this ad out at the beginning of this contradictory Sandy Hook, Mrs. Soto class. I'm sorry that's on there. But this is the guy, Rosen.

1:24:22 Who tell this is the story he told to Fox and it's also misreported by Fox because in one case if you listen to this guy enough he tells the story five different ways and Fox misreports it and then CBS had him on the morning show and then if we want to do something that's very entertaining at the end of the show I do have the raw audio of In other words, the whole interview, as a lot of people know and some people don't, is that when you're interviewed by one of these big networks, they'll talk to you for 10 minutes. I think I have 8 minutes of this guy chatting with Aaron Burnett.

1:25:00 And he is just going all over the place with one thing after another. He's making stuff up, he breaks into tears. I think the guy's a little nutty. And Erin is just, she's clueless and she's just asking him dumb questions. And it's actually quite entertaining. It would be a good end of show clip. But this is him talking to Fox News after this little ad at the beginning, which I again apologize for, runs. This new Nokia Lumia 920 from AT&T has lived. Really? You took money from AT&T and tried to slip it into this show? Is that what you did, John? Really? I wish! I could have cut this off, you know. We could have been...

1:25:40 Anyway, once we get to your guys clip, I got an even better one. Out of the sadness in Newtown, Connecticut, we are learning today an incredible story. This man lives near Sandy Hook Elementary School and he's speaking out about his experience of coming home and finding six small children sitting in a semicircle on his lawn. He had heard the gunfire on his way back from breakfast at a local diner and he thought it was a hunter. And then he saw these children just sitting on his front lawn. He started to talk to them, gave them juice and toys, and they recounted what had happened. Listen to this. And then over the next 30 minutes, they just described what happened, little by little. And these two boys kept saying, we can't go back to school. We can't go back to school.

1:26:33 Our teacher is dead. Mrs. Soto, we don't have a teacher. And I couldn't believe it. I couldn't take that in. I had no idea what had happened. So, so, so sad. And listening to his story, and you know, he said at first he saw them on the lawn, he thought that they were putting on a play or something. He was trying to understand what they could possibly be doing on his front lawn. And we all know how children feel about their teacher. It's like the most important person in their life outside their family. So your heart just breaks listening to that story. And we know that school has begun again for other children in Sandy Hook, but not the children who go to that elementary school. So we continue to bring you their stories throughout the week.

1:27:20 So the chat room by the way is saying that the the girl was not from Soto's classroom, that she was from a different classroom. Like we know anything. This is just... We don't know anything. That can't be. Here's the problem with that. That's again an accounting problem. If she was in a classroom, because it said very clearly in that clip, that she was the only survivor of that classroom of 16 Yeah, you're right. That makes 15 dead kids in that classroom plus all the kids in the Soto classroom, then we're way over 20. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So did you see the medical examiner? This is the one, this is the one, because I was like, okay, I'm done, you know, I've already told you we haven't seen it, so who knows what happened. But then I saw this medical examiner. Did you see this guy?

1:28:05 No. Oh yeah, the big guy, the big bald guy with the mustache, the funny looking guy. Yeah, the oaf. If ever, I'm just going to say, if ever there's a guy who looks like a pedo bear, this guy is it. He's frightening. Who apparently has been doing this for over 30 years. I pulled a couple of clips and there's a great montage of all of the, actually I have the full press conference In the show notes at 472.nashownotes.com. And I just want you to, first of all, we see a big oafy looking guy who has Tourette's for all intents and purposes. Believe me, I can recognize it. He's wearing- Oh, he does. I didn't notice this. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And then he's wearing a white lab coat, which of course gives him instant credibility as a medical examiner. I often wear one. Yeah. Around the house.

1:29:00 But the questions he's asked and the answers he gives are so uncharacteristic of anyone who has done this for 30 years. And he is the Melchizedek of Connecticut, okay? He's not just some douchebag from Sandy Hook, he's from Connecticut. I'm going to play this a little bit out of order, but as you know, the parents were never allowed to see the kids. And I don't even know if they ever saw the kids. We did not bring the bodies and the families into contact. We took pictures of them, of their facial features. It's easier on the families when you do that. There is a time and a place for us and the person in the grieving process to accomplish this. We felt it would be best to do it this way and you can sort of

1:29:57 You can control the situation. Yeah, I bet you can. Depending on your photographer. I have very good photographers. So he says you can control the situation, you know, with your photography. I've got really good photographers. I know you can take it at face value. Don't they have to have somebody identify the bodies? Well, let's talk about the identification, which is also all over the map. This is his opening of the statement. First of all, on behalf of my wife and my sons... Why would you... Who gives a crap about your wife and your sons when we're... By the way, we're standing in the middle of the woods for some reason for this press conference, which I also don't understand. Why are we in the woods? And on behalf of my other family, our people at the Office of Chief Medical Examiner, we wish to

1:30:46 extend our deepest sympathy. And how much does this guy sound like John Goodman? It hurts just to listen to. He sounds like John Goodman. To the families and everyone else who has been so hurt by this event, our thoughts and our prayers are with you. The office chief medical examiner got here, the chief medical examiner got here. Did you hear that? He's like the office of the medal examiner, I mean the chief medal examiner. Like he flubbed his line or something and he's laughing about it. A couple hours after the building was secured, we were here until approximately 12 30 last night. We thank the emergency services who built us a temporary facility in the parking lot and we

1:31:40 took identification photographs and did preliminary identification on all victims and had everybody transported back to Farmington by about one in the morning. Now, very important what he says next. Our entire staff turned out, started the post-mortem examinations this morning. We completed the children by about 1.30. And I believe everybody except the assailant and his mother will be finished tonight. So he had, so everyone had been identified except for the assailant and the assailant's mother, which he was gonna maybe do tonight or... And I'll do those tomorrow morning. I'll do them tomorrow morning. Wouldn't that be like, wouldn't you want that to be... I mean how do we even know the guy was the guy who we said the guy was?

1:32:38 Here's the med look at his examiner saying he hasn't even examined them yet. So it seems a little out of sequence here. Lieutenant Vance and staff have a list of the names and the dates of birth. Anything else on there? So the lieutenant has the names and the dates of birth and hey is anything else on there on that list? Anything else on that list that I put together? Anything else on that list? No sir, no. No? Nothing else on that list? Nope. And that'll be distributed.

1:33:16 Hope you got enough copies. Hey, hope you have enough copies. The guy's insane, John. This guy's a total... What is wrong with this guy? Everybody... Death was caused by... Everyone that we've completed so far was caused by gunshot wounds. And obviously the manner of death on all these cases has been classified as homicide. He can't classify anything yet. It's not his job to classify that. This whole thing is fishy. Now, by the way, the guy that, Rosen character, who saw the six kids?

1:34:01 But for one thing he never mentions his wife which is weird because he brought the kids in the house supposedly but he says that he saw the kids on his front lawn. And he happened to have all these little toys to play with. You know little animals and stuff the kids could play with at the ready. He just happened to have that laying around the house. I guess. But he said that the kids, he found them out in the front with a school bus driver, which is mentioned in all the other reports, at 930. Right. 15 minutes. And he had heard the gunshots like 15 minutes earlier, but that school was supposed to be on lockdown at 930 and the shooting began at 945 according to the official report. So there's another accounting error here that has to be fixed.

1:34:51 Also said according to the Fox he saw the kids when he was coming back from having breakfast but then if he was doing that he couldn't have heard the shots from his house because he'd be someplace else having breakfast. But the other reports had him going to breakfast He could have heard the shots if that was the case and that was in a later report which makes me think the story was changed. And then as he was driving out and I've seen his house from the top, he has a driveway that goes into the back of the place and then it comes out to the front and there's a huge lawn behind his house but I don't know if the kids were there. It's a quarter of a mile from the school to the guy's house. It's a long walk and it's wooded, the whole area. And the fact that people have to look at this school

1:35:37 the Google shots of the school because this is a large elementary school with a parking lot that looks as if it would service one of the great football stadiums. I mean, this parking lot is out of control. It looks like high school parking lots where kids actually drive to school isn't as big as this parking lot, which is really screwy if you ask me. I don't know what the point of all these parking spaces are. But the woods thing is explained by the fact that the whole area surrounding it is all tree and everything. But it's a very strange situation, the layout of the school, this guy's house. If you're going to have a press conference with the chief medical officer, why don't you just do it at his office? Why is he now in the woods?

1:36:25 I don't know. I don't understand that either. I don't get it. Because it's all positioning. It's all mental mind control to put you into... Here, so here's another thing. Two things. So on Anderson Cooper, there were a couple of relatives of the principal, I think. I don't have a sound, I don't have a clip from it. And it was like her nephew or something is like, yes, I'm wearing her school ID. And you look at the ID and it's like it's not even a... I mean it's like someone made that up on a laser printer just before the show. And of course you would expect the ID to be completely covered in blood, it's not. I mean that is... it's obviously fake.

1:37:09 It really is. I mean, there is so much fakery going on in this. And then my favorite is the top shot, which I'm unsure if it was done from a helicopter or a jib. And you see them opening up the trunk of the car and then pulling out what is either a shotgun or it could be an AR-15 type weapon. It's hard to see. You've seen this video and then the cop is like unloading shells from it. Have you seen this? I probably did. Okay, but let me tell you something. There was a lot of jib shots I saw. Jib shots? That looked like jib shots.

1:37:47 But let me... I don't get that. But my most important point is that is not how you handle evidence. If you find a... if there's a school shooting and there's a vehicle in the parking lot and it has a rifle in the back or any type of weapon, you as a sheriff or whatever that guy was dressed as, do not start unloading shells in the back of the evidence vehicle. That's not how you handle evidence. It's total posturing for the cameo. It's bullshit. It's bullshit. All of this is bullshit. This whole thing is very fishy. The problem is, you can look into all kinds of... This is so covered up by... I mean, whatever was really going on is so... Including this guy, for example, this character who...

1:38:46 Rosen guy, you got a heart on for him so now I'm gonna have to look at it because I don't ignore what you're saying I mean you're really irritated but it's everything is so buried because of if you try to do searches on anybody so it's impossible to get even if you do date searches you can't get past it's like a huge smoke screen and let me just play one more clip from the from the from the the John Goodman actor guy So, you know, so he, so he, someone asked him a question and then he does the most uncharacteristic thing in the world. This one a bit different than things we've dealt with before, sir. Did everybody hear the question? No. Did everyone hear the question? Did you hear the question? It's important you hear this. I was, was, given what I deal with all the time is this one over the top. I've been at this for a third of a century.

1:39:44 And it's my sensibilities may not be the average man But this probably is the worst I have seen or the worst That I know of any of my colleagues having seen it's probably the worst he's ever seen maybe not John Probably. Could be. But I think it's interesting, yeah he says probably, that's weird. Yeah not really. I mean probably. I mean probably, that doesn't make any sense. And what is this, I hope everyone heard the question so everyone can hear my answer. What is that all about? And he does a lot of like, you know if I were in court I wouldn't be able to answer that question, but you know he says, oh if I have testified I couldn't answer that question. The guy is an actor.

1:40:29 I don't know why they put him in here, but you must watch this video. And he's got Tourette's and he's shaking. He does weird shit with his head and sounds. Even if he's the real deal, just don't put this guy on television. And now he has turned to, hold on a second. He has brought in the Connecticut, let's see, geneticist from the University of Connecticut to join him in the investigation of the killings. Quote, and this is from the Hartford newspaper, I'm exploring with the Department of Genetics what might be possible if anything is ever possible. This is literally his quote from the Hartford Current.

1:41:23 if there's any identifiable disease associated with the behavior of the shooter. What is this? I mean, this is insane. This whole thing is insane. It doesn't follow any normal pattern of this type of incident. And certainly not what we're actually seeing. I don't know. Like I said, it's fishy. It's a mess. It's impossible to really not being there or any be able to talk to all these people You can't put the same story together twice. There's accounting errors all over the place. It's it's just astonishing the whole thing is it's amazing I mean and there's no thesis that's interesting and all the and you go online and it's worse with all these Yeah douchebags trying to you know think everybody's everybody's Lie bore

1:42:14 That's my favorite. And the LIBOR guys? I mean, it's just as impo- I mean, this is one of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed. My favorite is the Sandy Hook map in the Batman movie, which also has an Aurora sign in it, and that somehow proves something. This is a big one. It's like, that's suspicious! Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know, but it doesn't say anything. It really doesn't. That's why it's just as good to say Sandusky. You can bring that as a Sandusky in there. Yeah, it's got the Sandy. You know, the accounts that I like the most is like, you know, they kidnap these children and they threaten their parents and they've already sold the children off. These are the ones that I think are even more plausible than anything else. And that this whole thing is tied to one pedo-bear network.

1:43:05 which would not surprise me at all and this is where you get these idiots from because you know well how would people do this? Well you blackmail them. This is how people in government blackmail each other all the time with drugs, with money or with perverted sex. It happens all the time. And well the thing that's interesting to me and this is really got somebody in Congress has got to do something about this. You could actually I mean you could create a complete fake situation We had a bunch of actors in it and I mean I don't think this was but I'm just saying you could easily and then you give the parents that everybody a National Security letter yeah, and you need to shut up national security letter Which people should look up and look into is the most onerous thing I mean you think that the NDAA black bag operation snuck in there at the last minute that you brought up at the beginning of the show is a crappy deal which it is you know that we should just you know you could disappear from Amsterdam tomorrow

1:44:02 and be held in some, you know, in absentia some place, you know, in some military court for whatever reason. In the Hague, in the criminal, international criminal court. And I never hear from you. And Mickey Keep calling, what is, what, you haven't heard from Adam? He disappeared. Where is he? And there's nothing anyone can do about it. It's almost the same thing, a broader scale with these national security letters that only one person's ever successfully fought. National security letter, essentially you get one, and it says you can't say you got one, Or you will be thrown in jail just without a trial. It's an amazing and it tells you what you can and cannot do. You can be told not to talk about one thing or another or you will be thrown in jail instantly. Or you'll be suicided, whatever it is. But I mean these things are, this is getting out of control and it's,

1:44:52 interfering with our show because we can't figure this particular one out. We have all these crazy theories, but it's you know, no, we haven't got a clue. The only thing, and this goes back to the previous show, the president used my actual words, which I liked very much, and I'm just going to play that, then I'm done with it, as to what this results in. And he actually says some interesting words, which you should probably try and deconstruct. Listen to this. So this evening I want you and your fellow citizens back home to know how... This, by the way, is at the reception for the diplomatic corps. So it's all the embassy people from around the world. All the fellow citizens? Yes, fellow citizens from around the world. Oh yeah, the whole thing is kind of New World Order-ish.

1:45:36 But listen to what he says. So this evening I want you and your fellow citizens back home to know how much this has meant to all of us, to the good people of Newtown, to me, and to the American people. You've stood with us just as we've stood with you in similar moments, whether it's been a Scottish village, an Australian town, most recently the terrible tragedy at a youth camp in Norway, whether it's a tsunami that strikes or earthquake that levels communities or when a young girl is targeted and nearly killed just for wanting to go to school. We're reminded that terrible things happen in this world, but there are more people of goodwill than people of ill will. And that if we can just remind ourselves of our common humanity, perhaps we can make progress. Now here it comes. These are moments that pierce through all the noise of our daily lives, and they speak to a larger truth

1:46:38 that permeates our work together. You turn on the TV, you open the newspaper and every day it seems we're bombarded with images of tension and conflict and division and differences. And that sometimes seems to validate those who believe that civilizations are destined to clash. So I found this a very interesting sentence. These are moments that pierce through the noise of our daily lives and they speak to a larger truth that permeates our work together. Permeates means spread throughout. You turn on the TV, you open the newspaper, every day it seems we're bombarded with images of tension and conflict. This is my strategy of tension that I talked about. And division and differences and that sometimes seems to validate those who believe that civilizations are destined to clash. Is he not just exactly saying what the whole strategy is? I have no idea. Thanks.

1:47:44 Sorry, it's a weird thing that he said and he's like, I think it was, I don't know, it sounds like he was rambling to me but... Well it's written down, some speechwriter came up with it. These are moments that pierce through all the noise of our day. They speak to a larger truth that permeates our work together. Yeah, well so these are all the embassies and it spreads through their work together to basically create havoc and tension that is seen on TV that messes with people's heads. That's the way I read it and he's celebrating that with these douchebags at their dinner. Huh, that's an interesting theory. Well I just can't deconstruct the words any differently and by the way he says whether it's a Scottish village, Dumblaine,

1:48:28 Australian town or a youth camp in Norway. I know the youth camp in Norway. I know the Scottish village What happened in an Australian town was there some massacre that I missed? Yeah, yeah No, that's the big massacre that resulted in the called to something massacre I think that resulted in them in them rounding up all the guns in Australia. Uh-huh. There you go This is not by coincidence. These words are chosen for a reason. I I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Some people to thank for this show for 72 and by the way, we're heading on to four five to show 500 Don't we have some other cool numbers coming up before 500? I know someone sent us an email recently with that or eight four would be good. Oh, there they go about I got a look up that email

1:49:30 I'll look up the yeah, we had an email so many times a cool and I always think you know I should put all these things on the calendar and then I never do any we're idiots We totally suck so we don't suck in doing the show but we don't do as much as we could to keep the show going and and and so what people should do is email us now for the next show No, it's too late already. Yeah, if you have an idea or something. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we're welcome to listen to it. In fact, we did get, before we start the donation segment, let me open up this, where is that email? There it is. The note that we got from one of our dames, and I thought it was a pretty good idea. It's Dame Vicki Poole, and I just thought this was good. Okay. She says,

1:50:16 I had an idea as a producer and a dame I would not mind funding the shipping cost for receiving the new knighthood pin as you discussed on Thursday's show. If you ask I bet and I think she might be right here I'll bet that most of us Wouldn't want the show to be penalized because of this new advertising quote-unquote from na How about thirty three dollars and thirty three cents for shipping? I certainly wouldn't mind sending in the magic number to support the greatest podcast in the universe Well, I thought this is a good idea was an interesting idea right and it does a couple of different things one I

1:50:57 it would the problem is getting these pins to the all the nice lot of people who were not in touch with him anymore we don't have their addresses or they send in if they send in uh... the the magic numbers and we'll know exactly where to send them to pay that's a very that's that's an administrative nightmare we remove right there and it would be good for the show it was it's it's income and it's also uh... of the day that most of the games and i said the honest about it are very generous and so that wouldn't be like a but it's not like charging him a whole new knighthood to get the pin. Right. So anyway, I just thought that would be something if anybody any knights and dames out there have anything to say about this we'll be listening. Okay so let's thank some people. Starting with Eric Nagel, Sir Eric to you from Bunschoten Spakenburg. So I think it's Eric Nagel, Sir Eric Nagel from Bunschoten Spakenburg. I got the Bunschoten Spakenburg. Yeah, no you nailed it. You totally nailed it.

1:51:57 Instead of giving to serious request in 2012 in the Netherlands, they've gone and given That's the douchebags. That's the disc jockeys in the in the glass house. It's called serious request. That's those guys Go and given it directly to the douchebags at the Red Cross I donate my money to the best podcast in the universe hundred four dollars and seven exactly. That's how we roll. Thank you, sir Eric knuckle. Oh Dame Joni Odafrey in Morgantown, West Virginia. Your old stomping grounds. Went through my donation. Hope my donation went through. PayPal was acting a bit sketchy, so let me know if you didn't receive it, blah, blah, blah. It's official. Karma works. I asked for travel karma for a dive trip last month and low.

1:52:44 the Pittsburgh area converted into only a T.S. line with the dreaded... John, John, John, hold on a second. Hold up, John, hold on. Let's reconnect. All of a sudden, Mumble just went nuts and I don't want Joni's thing to be gassed out. Just reconnect. Just... Jame... Dame. Jame. Jame. Jame. Jame Doan. Jame Joni in Morgantown, West Virginia. Who's Joan Dodefray. We just love her name. 100 bucks. She says, karma works. I asked for travel karma for a dive trip last month and lo and behold we were at the Pittsburgh airport being herded into the only open TSA line which had the dreadful radiation scanner. I told our two human resources under no circumstances do you go through that thing. Just in the nick of time a friendly TSA guy magically opened up a metal detector line.

1:53:35 Molestation avoided it gets even better human resource number one couldn't dive the first day due to problems equalizing his ears in addition to doing a little internet research that evening on different methods to rectify the problem I called upon my no agenda karma and what do you know he was able to dive with no problem for the rest of the trip Some of the most amazing sea life too many of which don't oh, you don't always get the sea credit No agenda karma for a great vacation. Hey, did she just like just do like a little a Oh, karma come to me and then it fixes it. I love it. That's great. Teach me how to do that, Joni. She wishes us a Merry Christmas. Thank you very much. Ed Laboutillier in Hesperia, California, home of the Hesperians. It's Ed Labouti.

1:54:24 According to this. No, La Boutier, that's what I said. Name is French. Stop ragging on us, the French. You're not in France, you're in Hesperia, California. It doesn't count, dude. It doesn't count. You're import. Hail and good Yule. Don't eat me Hillary and two shots to the head. Almost too delicious to believe. The same one the other guy did. That's funny. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! Hold on, you stepped on the little kid. I'm sorry? Don't step on the little kids! It's almost too... Now I'm sucking. Okay, I'm a little discombobulated. Here we go. Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton! It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend. Alright, there you go. There's your eat me and delicious. Is that good? Yeah, no, that's great. Alright, then we have, uh, let's see, Raymond Williams. I look him up, I don't find him here, so he didn't leave a note. So it's without comment. Lafayette, Louisiana, $100.

1:55:25 $100. No, no, it's the next one. The next one, yeah, is 999. Sabina or Sabine, Sabina, I think. Trumpler in Hamburg, Deutschland obviously, because she calls herself the German nation. Sauerkraut, we passed the 21st and nothing happened. At least we European citizens, at least we European citizens, Adam and Mickey should be safe now. Yeah. Oh, and Adam and Mickey, okay. I don't know about you, John, but you still have some hours and this is obviously, we passed that time. If not, please accept my 999 donation as the start of a new eon. Keep up the excellent work here. An allotment makes my daily commuting...

1:56:07 I don't know, it's an-a-lo-tainment. An-a-lo-tainment. An-a-lo-tainment. An-a-lo-tainment. Thank you. Analysis plus entertainment makes my daily commuting bearable. Send a drone again, Karma Combo, to all those celebrating weddings and birthday parties in mud huts. Akam Trumpler from Hamburg, Deutschland, John. I don't mind if you pronounce it Dutch. In fact, Dutchland. In fact, I always find it here you're reading Dutch and German names. By the way, how much of the 99.99 to PayPal send you? As far as I can, it's hard to read this letter. As far as I know, they also charge some money if it comes in, yes they do. They always charge about 5% on everything. Everything, 5%, full blown? Pretty much. Wow. All right, all right, here's your- That's right, we welcome checks. Yeah. Box 339, El Cerrito, California. 94530. Here's your drone again.

1:57:01 You've got karma. Thank you. Get more nation Deutschland. Okay, so we got those Zeb Peterson's Zebedee in Haywoods Heath West Sussex 93 for Zebedee is always a beady. What do you think? Zebedee Zebedee? I'll go with Zebedee. Peterson from London Nuts UK. Hopefully you get this in time for the End of the World show, otherwise who knows if it ever gets read. It's a birthday donation for Frank Zappa whose 72nd birthday would have fallen on 12-21-12. Something I think he would have quite enjoyed. Can I get a Karma, you can put Frank Zappa on the list if you want. No, he's on, we got him on the list. Can I get a Karma Fiscal Cliff Ah in that order which I think might make quite a nice End of the World combo.

1:57:58 And then you have an FZ to the birthday list yes FZ is on the birthday list okay, okay? I don't have it in front of me. You've got karma I Like it you know it was good. It worked. What'd you get that scream? I have no idea. It's produced I worked on it. That's for sure as it worked on sir Jesper Holmberg and Duval Washington 8888 with a comment That's the 8888 karma Baron von Pelsmacher, Baron of the Barony of France and Belgium. Uh-oh! 69! 69, dudes! Hey now! He gets in at the top here. ITM, gentlemen, this is the world did not come to its foretold end yesterday. I guess it's time to wish the best podcast in the universe.

1:58:49 Crew, a very Merry Christmas and happy healthy non-bogative yet extremely prosperous New Year. May Mary and Alan find their way back to safety in Texas. Wait a minute. So you're Jeb, I'm Alan and Miss Mickey is Mary? Well, for the moment. For the moment, yeah. And may Jeb be spared from one too many Anne Rand jingles in the New Year. Yes, thank you. Finally, some swazzle enough karma for all the knights and dames. Please, why? Because it works and they deserve it. You've got karma and right on the heels of that oh This is funny the spreadsheet finally opened up to end Joanie's game Joanie's Email, I don't see there's anything we should say this is oh yeah, we missed this don't ask now that she was credited in the confirmation and she wants to

1:59:49 All the family... You know what? Stop. Merry Christmas is dead. Hold on, hold on. John, John, John. Hold on. Hold on. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. We can't hear you. It's for some reason whenever you talk about Dame Joanie, the mumble just goes crazy. Nope. Reconnect. I found Joanie's, the end of her note which somehow didn't come out in the spreadsheet and every time we did it it screwed up mumble so now we're on Skype. But she wants a douchebag call out for listeners who didn't donate and a no agenda listeners karma for people who did. Okay so here's the douchebag and the karma. Alright. You've got karma. Very good.

2:00:41 Okay, now we're on to Linus Askingren in Huuuuhhh...dinge. Now do you think it's Linus or Linus? Well it's Linus Torvalds. Um, well no I don't think so. It's not Linus. I think, why does he pronounce it Linux? Or is it Linux? It's Linux but he's Linus. Okay. Believe me, it's Linus, he's not Linus. Alright, alright, I believe you. Huddenjuh. 6969 thank you for the one more year of the best podcast and media assassination the universe was Mickey and Adam the best Amsterdam the best in Amsterdam and everything will be resolved soon I've just finished Atlas shrugged so can I please get some Atlas that's one hot milf 6969 karma debris it's pretty long maybe should cut out the Atlas part no I think that's exactly the part I want to leave in

2:01:36 by Ayn Rand. Michelle Cartmel in West Bank, British Columbia. It's near Spuzum, I believe. 6969, greetings from the Napa Valley of Canada, the Okanagan Valley. Oh, got Burrowing Owl. Send Burrowing Owl. This donation, one of the better Cabernets and Merlots in the country.

2:02:13 This donation is my Christmas gift to my husband Adriel who listens to every show. Yay! John put some life into that yay, darn it. How did she know I was gonna not give? Anyway, Adriel recently hit me in the mouth, well not literally, but you know, and I've jumped under the no agenda bandwagon. We would donate more often and hope to in the future, but you know, living in the Canadian dream of barely getting by. If you would be so kind as to send my sexy husband a too delicious and throw us both some karma Really appreciate it. Thanks for the best podcast in the universe. It's almost too delicious to believe my friend. You've got karma. I'm actually surprised how few no agenda Christmas gifts there were. This is the first one on the list. I'm a little surprised by that. Sorry about what? The first what? I said this is the first no agenda Christmas gift that I've seen on the list today. Am I losing you again? Is that what's happening?

2:03:13 No, I just didn't. Yeah, no, I'm losing you again. I totally am even on Skype. Hmm. It's weird. Yeah Okay, let's continue on and let me let me sit try something here as you hear the keyboard clacking at the man Eric the shill a message Oh, let me guess what that message is Hey, are you uploading porn?

2:03:51 I mean it could easily be on my end, who the hell knows? I mean I'm sitting here in Amsterdam for Christ's sake, jacked off of some Wi-Fi that is a part of the rental unit I'm in, I'm not saying it's just you. Well you sound good now. Yeah. Let's try to plow forward. Okay. Yeah, that was we didn't get a lot of guests. That's funny. She well, good for Michelle Ray Mets in San Diego, California, 69 69. I want to thank the best podcast in universe for preventing the apocalypse with the power of deconstruction. Can I get two to the head parliament? Little girl. Yay. Yeah, I think you can to the head parliament. I'll do I'll do it in the right sequence here.

2:04:35 Yeah, there you go. Done. Consider it done. Felix Hema's blog in Winston. Felix Hema, F-E-L-I-X-M-H-E-M-M-E dot D-E. Being a former exchange student in Lexington, Kentucky nuts. I am using the best podcast in the universe to keep up my language skills. By the way, we recommend that to everybody, including Americans. Since my return to Deutschland in 2001, I lost a family member almost every year. most due to cancer. Just like my dad about two years ago, the age of 60, my great auntie this year in June. Fuck cancer, he says. There's just me and my brother left in the Hema clan, and being the older one is up to me to keep up the lineage. So I need some special Christmas sois en ouf getting laid karma for the parties during the holidays. Thank you, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to you all, and to your families. Keep up the good work.

2:05:34 So first of all, he wants us to mention his blog again, FelixHemme.de. Felix, if you're going to keep the lineage alive, then the swass on enough is not the right thing to do, but that's just a little tip from your friends here at No Agenda. What a fucking god! You've got karma. That's our F-cancer karma. What's that? That's our F-cancer karma. I've only been doing it for the last three shows. Okay, onward to Tice Browers. Hold on a second, we end the segment closed, dude. I'll close it. 69! 69, dudes! Onward to lesser amounts. Tice Browers and Deventer. Deventer.

2:06:28 Dave and Ter. Hey, Joe and Alan, maybe a couple of Maya, Maya Culpa. That's good. A good gag. Maya Culpa. Get it? Maya, Maya, Maya. Donation from one of your pooped out artists. It's true Joe. It's a stressful living as a no agenda artist making things up We should go on and on and on from one media assassination to another and then the hilarious anecdotes and funny voices Oh, and then wait did they pick it did they pick it? Ah, no Martin J. I guess mine was Not funny enough or too graphic Anyway, so I got a job so less time for creating, but I feel fired up when you whine for art So keep a close eye on you. I'll keep a close eye on you some karma for my girlfriend Linda without her I was a bum on the streets of Devon turn Dave hunter Dave and turn yes, and we actually yes, here's some karma for her You've got karma, and we actually we used his art on the last episode so it wasn't yeah coincidentally yeah coincidence yes

2:07:29 Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina 6194 So you can buy Mickey Mimi the first three Taylor Swift CDs for Christmas We're trying to get laid this year. Thank you very much. I don't think that's gonna happen. You know, I've listened to her singing She is one of the great creations of publicity. Yeah ever. She really is. She's got a thin voice. She's amazing. She's really amazing More money than we'll ever have. Liberty Deck, Green River, Wyoming, 51 double nickels on the dime. Thanking Adam for the show notes and underappreciated, by the way, I agree with this. I'm all in. That's an underappreciated resource which merits this donation in itself, not to mention the rest of the best podcasts in the universe. These show notes are astonishing. Well, the show notes are, the thing that I like about the show notes, which not many people notice,

2:08:21 is every single story that we talk about, we actually keep a copy of the text itself of the webpage. So if you know, there's a web, it's always a webpage that we're linking to. We have the link to the page, but we have the complete text unrendered, no ads, just the text of the story in the show notes, all in these collapsible formats that you can, you know, and it's shareable, it's OPML and blah, blah, blah. And the reason for that is these web links disappear they go away exactly and you can search on it you know and by the way you've had some trouble it's really rough keeping the servers up because the these Baidu guys and these Korean bots they're a-holes

2:09:09 They really are, you know, and even Google bots are doing a-hole things. They have no regard for resources whatsoever. They just pound your server, you know, over and over and over again. Just trying to find like... You put the no robots code? No, we want the robots code because we want to be indexed. Hello? We don't want... I don't want to say don't search me, but there's no way to say necessarily They do all kinds of crazy stuff. They they search for proxies I mean, it's just it's it's a race again hail and I bow to all sysadmins of the world you have an amazing Job that you put up with this crap every I got like four servers I run no agenda news network the upload portion of that the show notes server and and all the rest is all done by void zero and

2:10:00 who's, we're going to have to make this guy a knight next year for sure. It's just the crap that sysadmins put up with John today on the interwebs is unbelievable. And it's just all tracking bullshit. It's sickening to see it. Sorry done. I'm not gonna stop you on that one I'm just a may X well Roberts in Crown Point, Indiana double nickels on the diamond in the morning if you're reading this the world is still around which is nice with this donation I should be a knight all I asked for some Carmen please read Galt's oath. Oh, please For the knighting ceremony you've got karma What is that

2:10:42 Is that a really long thing? Oh, here it is. Oh yes. I'll do that. No you won't. Yes I will. Read it now. Why can't I do it for him? You have a specific way of doing nights. Some of the nights don't think this is a good idea. Okay. I mean, just one night. Alright, I'll do it for him now. I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man nor ask another man to live for mine. Great. Howard G Hill the third sir Howard G Hill to you Akron, Ohio double-niggles on the dime. No lost you again Okay, come back. We do it again. Yeah, come back here your back Howard G Hill sir Howard G Hill Akron 55 double-niggles on a dime when I was Been a while since his last donation like to show last week deconstructing the coverage of the latest school shooting I can use some job search karma since my current country

2:11:39 Runs out at the end of the year. End of the year. You've got karma. Thank you, Sir Howard G. And I'll just do this while John waits for his connection to come back up. I can actually see that he's been disconnected, which makes it even sadder. Scott Montgomery, brand new from Saskatchewan, Maple Creek, Saskatchewan. A Christmas donation on behalf of my brother Mark. Please give him a de-douching and a don't eat me, it's too delicious to believe karma. Sadly, I'm still a boner, but hope to make a donation. Wait, but you're donating right now.

2:12:16 Even if you do it on behalf of your brother Mark. Well, let me see if I can get John back. Hold on Wow, it's like it's like all of Washington just disappeared all of a sudden That's kind of new Okay, we can do that karma request for you which was The don't eat me too delicious to believe and a karma to go along with it. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton It's almost too delicious to believe my friend you've got karma And then we have Peter Mulroy from Brooklyn, New York hi Adam and Jeb we

2:12:59 I, uh, Atom and Jeb, this is new. I'm, uh, Pete the teacher checking in after a long radio silence. Apologies for the hiatus, but fighting the war against noodles kids is time consuming and does not pay well. Just wanted to kick in my share for 2013 now that the Mayim demise... I have returned. The Mayim... Yes. What, what, have you figured out what it is? No. Okay. Well, I'm down at Peter Mulroy, Brooklyn, New York. You want to pick it up there? Hi, Atom and Jeb. Yes, Peter Mollroy, Brooklyn, New York, $50. Only one more after the two more. Hi Adam, ATOM and Jeb. It's Pete the teacher checking in after a long radio silence. Apologizes for the hiatus, but fighting the war against noodles kids is time consuming and it doesn't pay well.

2:13:46 I just wanted to kick in my share for 2013 now that the Mayan demise is off. Thank you very much for the endless hours of work you guys put in to keep slaves like me from jumping off the roof. I really believe what you are doing is incredibly important. Can I get a Merry Christmas to Sir Matt Nichols, slave Tom Starkweather, and my douchebag dad. Also as a science teacher, I'd appreciate a good old fashioned science. Okay, so I think what he's asking for is... I think it was Pete the Teach by the way. I think he was telling me in, you know, we had some emails going back and forth that... Was he telling me that 40% of his kids are on some type of meds and actually talk about... Maybe it wasn't him.

2:14:38 I'm sure it's the same for him that these teachers that just blown away by these kids, you know and all the medication they're on you know the Adderall and Ritalin or whatever it is Zoloft and Xanax but the kids at this the thing that really upsets him is the culture of kids like oh man it's like 10 o'clock I gotta take my meds man you did you take your meds yet did you bring I forgot my meds man I gotta go home get my meds it's the culture of meds that is the most disturbing I would think, yeah. That's what it is. Except for, we're stuck with it. Except for people who listen to No Agenda. People who listen to No Agenda, they're not putting their kids on meds like that. And finally, we got two $50 donations, one from Eric Vieten, Dublin, California, and Kyle Bauer from Parts Unknown. I want to thank everybody who helped us out on the show, 472, and we've got 473 coming up, so keep it up. We appreciate it. Thedvorak.org slash NA. So the traditionally,

2:15:35 Well, this is a little shorter today. Of course, we're going to see donations drop off for the next couple of weeks as everyone's on vacation. I do have a way that maybe that we can pick up some of the slack, but I wanted to run it by you if it's okay. Yeah. Okay. So my ex-wife, she's a judge on a show here called Dancing on Ice with the Stars. Thought she was a judge on the other show. Yeah, but that show is over now. So now it's a new show It's dancing on ice. You know what you get into these judging jobs. You got it made Yeah, so it's dancing on ice with the stars and she's saying hey look you're stuck here anyway if you want to make some extra cash it'd be a good be a bonanza if you skate in the competition and I'm like well, but I need to have my coach come over and

2:16:30 What do you think? You're my skating coach. Yeah, now, yeah, come on, you gotta get this, what's your, yeah. Would you come? Yeah, I'd come. You're gonna be skating? Yeah. Can you skate? Who gives a crap? It's like they want to pay 10 grand or something. I'm like, yeah, we can use that. What? I'm in. That's what I thought. I'm like, come on, let's go for the 10 grand. I'll stand on some freaking skates for that. And I said, but I got it. I can need Jeb, my scoating cage. My skating coach needs to come over. Can you imagine us? How funny would we be in a huddle? Well.

2:17:13 I can't skate, so... Well, you don't have to skate, you just have to... I'm just a coach. You're just a coach, exactly. So I would have a megaphone and I'd be yelling at you. That's the way to do it. Yeah, exactly. What would you be saying to me? I don't know. Give me some words I can use. Okay, okay. Do you have a megaphone handy or can you cup your hands and try this? Well, I don't have... Give me some words to say. Okay, okay. Hey, clothes suck. Hey, clothes suck. Sneller! Sneller! Sneller! Now combine them together. Hey, Kote, look close. Sneller, Sneller! I'm actually crying, John. I know there are at least 10 people who listen to the show who are crying as well because they happen to speak Dutch. Okay, well, I'm scheduled a call with her tomorrow.

2:18:19 so I can find out if she thinks it's a good idea I think that if you're there with the megaphone though it's a hit we've got a winner it's got TV written all over It's your birthday, birthday. Hey, Sneller, close up! On No Agenda. 70E says, hey, happy birthday to Frank Zappa, who did not turn 72 on the 21st. I promise you we put him on the list. And Dixie Van says, happy birthday to Ryan Van, it's the gift that keeps on giving. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show, the best podcast. And we do luckily have a couple of nightings today people who have made it remember that we are going to Be switching to the pins the no agenda pins, which are all very excited about

2:19:09 uh... and uh... i guess we'll be having some uh... some of what some additional information about the pins are very soon on the war act dot org but essentially the knighthood level will remain the same so it's a scrap our blades here john if uh... they don't take a look at Here it comes. Yeah, perfect timing. Stephen Jaffe, Greg Wilson and Maxwell Roberts, step forward please. Gentlemen, very nice to have you here and I'm very proud to welcome you to the table that is round for the knights. Of course I'm talking about the Nogent Round Table of the Knights and I will hear by

2:19:46 pronounce these Sir Stephen, Sir Greg and Sir Maxwell all nights at the Noah Dinner Round Table. Gentlemen come on down for your hookers and blow your rent boys with Chardonnay, hot pants and booze, wenches and beer, rubiness, women and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, gerbils and ginger ale, sparkling cider and escorts and mutton and mead. Thank you again for supporting the... The Best Podcast in the Universe! Truly is appreciated. I had a quick note back and forth with our our drone signage knight from the tri-state area who was arrested, you'll recall? Yes. Knight Atiyah. And so he's doing a... he's putting together a benefit and he wanted me to ask if anyone in the listening audience had a band who could headline his benefit. So drop me an email, adam at curry.com and I'll put you in touch with him. I think it's kind of interesting.

2:20:48 Quick little update just stuff that came in. Of course, I have more time to scan the Gitmo Nation East publications. Remember the the nurse who killed herself? Yeah, right. Turns out she had tried to kill herself twice before by taking pills and try to jump out of a window. Oh gee gee do you think that might have something to do with it? I don't know maybe just maybe that little omission kind of escaped everyone's attention I thought I'd update you on that before the before they prosecute the DJs get rid of them and this was just hilarious I love this from the Sun Prince Harry John you'll be happy to know has killed his first Taliban commander

2:21:38 Yeah, yeah, this is the story is great. Let me read this to you. This is a whole lot of second. This is now. The 28 year old gunship copilot was called on to unleash a missile strike to eliminate a senior terror leader. Harry has proved a massive hit with comrades in Helmand, Afghanistan, who have nicknamed him Big H. What? They've nicknamed him... Is that because of the way he looks in the showers or what? Big H. Okay, here's a quote. We were on patrol and the Apache helicopters were called in. We heard this posh voice come over the radio and we knew it was Big H.

2:22:25 They were tracking a Taliban leader. He was at commander level. The Apache then let off some hellfire missiles and its 30mm cannon and boom! It was Big H all the way, I tell you. So there's some sappy guy with a towel on his head, poor guy walking around in the sand, and then we got Prince Harry the Big H with his big H thumb presses the button and fires a hellfire up the guy's ass and now he's like super duper kills the Top Ten of Band Commander I tell you. How sad and sickening is this? My goodness. It really is sad.

2:23:09 My, that's pretty bad. Yeah, anyway, so that's that's the big news over in that's probably meant to obfuscate the fact that the This this nurse had tried to kill herself twice before so we've got to put something else in there, you know big H Big H the rescue I sleep better at night knowing that the big H is firing hellfires it at brown guys in the desert I feel much much better. It's how to ban commander. Hey By the way, I wanted to mention that Moof, we did get a letter from a guy whose note I couldn't find. Moofang. He just wanted to say that he donated, he didn't get his donation note in so he sent it in by email. He says he wants to give, if you don't mind doing this, give the Mayans a douchebag for not pulling off the end of the world. Douchebag!

2:24:00 And he could use a de-douching after speaking ill of the dead. Yes! You've been de-douched. Don't do that stuff. That's not a good idea. Not sure what that is all about, but okay. Yeah. It happens. Alright, onward. Yes. I have a, uh, kind of one screwy thing that should, I want to get out of the way. Mm-hmm. Uh, well actually a couple of screwy things I want to get out of the way before we get into the flying saucer talk. Oh, very nice. I'm glad you brought some with you. First of all, let's listen to Julian Assange discuss what's really going on. And I thought there was a little piece of new information in here because everyone's kind of forgotten about this poor guy who's been, what, six months in the Ecuador embassy? I'm catching up to him, though.

2:24:49 Yes, well it's gonna take a while because you can't quite catch up unless they do something with him. But anyway, play this, see if you can find the new little gem in here. ...the world for about six months by US intelligence and its allies. I must correct an earlier statement that you made that has become common in the press, saying that I was here in relation to Sweden. The reason I am here is essentially in relation to the United States. The Swedish government said publicly that it would imprison me without charge. And in such a situation, I would not be able to apply for asylum.

2:25:35 Now the Ecuadorian government has asked the Swedish government to give a guarantee that I would not be exfiled to the United States. We have asked a long time for such a guarantee, that has been refused. All the regular processes have been refused in this case. You know, it's an extremely odd and bizarre case. And I encourage everyone to go and look at that aspect of the case at justiceforassange.com. And you can see, report after report, you can see all the material that the police claim to be true and other things that have occurred. The Cambridge

2:26:18 international comparative law journal condemning the decisions that were made here in the British courts. Are you saying Julian... So did I understand that it wasn't the Swedes who wanted to extradite him? It was actually the Americans? Well he says that's the reason, he says that's what he believes and and to prove it He had the Ecuadorians or they decided to tell the ask the Swedes that they will send him over there to Sweden if they assured the Ecuadorians that they will not further export export to America exactly to America and the Swedes refused well of course because they Didn't you know we'll take away another one of their car companies if they don't do what we say Well, the Swedes are should be ashamed of themselves. Yeah, well That's what I thought after Abba

2:27:10 I'm sorry. I'll give myself a shot for that one Okay, good one. Okay, so I got another one. I just wanted to do a douchebag call out for Barbara Walters. Oh, hold on. Douchebag. Okay. Well, just play this little thing. Tell me if you've ever heard anything like this before. And I'll tell you what is in advance. She's talking about, oh, she's going to go do an interview with Lindsay Lohan. And so she decided to go do the interview. And then she says something that I can't believe someone in network television would ever say. At great expense, I went to visit her. At great expense? What is she, is it out of her pocket? I don't think so. Um, I like Lindsay Lohan very much, let me say this. I've known her for years, since she was a very little girl, child star, very vulnerable. And she said whenever she did an interview, she would sit down and do it with me. So last year, uh, last June, uh, at some time and some expense, uh, I flew with a camera crew to Los Angeles.

2:28:13 Right I just thought it was douchey did she not also interview honey boo-boo Yes, she did have you seen it. Have you seen the mom have you seen the interview? Yeah, you could see you can see what's really going on the mom is actually a lot Less goofy than she is on the show and the kid is out of control. Yeah out of control that kid There's a kid who needs something Okay Are you done? You got more? I got one more. This is right up your alley. I'm surprised you don't have this one. The coneheads in Mexico.

2:28:52 Coneheads really exist centuries ago in Central America. Take a look at these space alien-like skulls found at a graveyard in western Mexico. They are apparently not space beings at all. Researchers say the practice of deforming skulls of children was pretty common a thousand years ago. The cemetery was found in the village of Onavas as residents were building an irrigation canal. Yeah, no I saw this. I saw this. What do you think? I think those are aliens. It's bullcrap. It's just, again, it's just a stupid report. This stuff has been on the shelf for years. They bring it out from time to time. It's like the huge skeletons. This is bullcrap. This is all bullcrap. Okay, what about three glowing lights?

2:29:44 a three glowing lights. UFO skeptics may have a tough time debunking some recent video. This was shot last week in Brooklyn, New York. Three glowing objects that appear to be moving in formation all at the same speed. Now, similar sightings of three glowing lights have been caught on tape in San Francisco and England as well. Yes, Chinese lanterns. What kind of a Bogadib's crazy second half of the show are we doing here? I don't know, you're bringing it up. I've been waiting, I mean you've been playing honey boo boo stuff, you know, it's like a Baba Wawa. Can I get to something that's actually good? Okay. Alright, so...

2:30:28 Without a doubt this story was the one that captivated everybody on the interwebs We are now back to talk about that astonishing video What did we say 16 million views on that Eagle swooping down in a park trying to snatch a baby? We wondered we asked was a real or fake and now we know ABC's John Mueller is here with the story behind it I as we fast forward a little bit here. Because he's going to talk about the fakery of this video. Millions have seen it. If you haven't, check it out.

2:31:30 An eagle swoops in and snatches a toddler at a park. Whoa! Real or fake? This memorable escaped penguin and these miniature flying cars. So how... So now that I've just jump cut through here. So now they're gonna bring in an expert to show you how they did this fake video and of course hopefully everyone who is listening has seen this thing. Do they do it? Clearly this is fake. They've shot some video footage here. And they've used over-the-counter software to create a 3D bird and a 3D baby. There is a real baby at the end, which allows them to pull off their trick. Now pay close attention to what he's about to say because you've heard these exact words before and you've laughed at them. Joel Payne's been a 3D animator for two decades, working with Spielberg and Disney to name a few. They shot this in a very clever way. What they did is they shot the video and they panned the camera as if they were following a bird.

2:32:26 The bird wasn't really there. Now just substitute the word bird for plane. They were shooting this footage. They had to add that in with 3D elements. They also modeled a digital double of the kid. We might give them an A, but this eagle wasn't picture perfect. First, watch the eagle's wings. All of a sudden they disappear mid-flight. One more time. Wing here? Yup. No wings. Wings, no wings. Now take a close look at the eagle's shadow. It appears, then disappears, then reappears. Oh! Wing, no wing. Shadow, no shadow. WTC7 won't go away. Fits right in with what I've been saying for a decade. And now all of a sudden, oh yes, we believe that was a fake video. What are you trying to say? Oh, people who understand, understand. Don't worry about it.

2:33:19 Then let's move on to the Indianapolis, which I still call a droning, which my theory is still as good as any. We have an indictment, John. This was the blast, the so-called gas blast in Indianapolis. And hilarious what they have now come up with. They've arrested three people. And the story now is that the home's owner, Montserrat Shirley, her boyfriend Mark and his brother Bob conspired to let the house fill up with gas and explode in order to collect insurance money.

2:34:02 And I love this story because they've really taken it to a full extreme and they're saying that they even called the gas company and said, you know, how much PSI will actually flow into my house if I remove the regulator? Of course, you know, the gas company didn't find that strange or anything. And then according to this AP report, they actually programmed the microwave oven to go off at a certain time to then detonate the gas filling up in the house. And the reason I love this story is because this is exactly the Bourne supremacy, this is the movie, Matt Damon, you know,

2:34:44 He rips out the gas cord and he sets the toaster and then the toaster explodes it. And the reason I love it is because Mythbusters, who everyone's always pointing to, is shut up, Curry, you don't know what you're talking about. Mythbusters debunked that. They tried to do this. They tried to replicate the explosion from the Bourne Supremacy and could not even come close Of course, I've put the episode for that in the show notes at 472.nashownotes.com. This is the biggest load of scientific bull crap I've ever heard that you can let your house fill up with gas, enough gas, and then have it detonate with a microwave oven to this extent.

2:35:26 40, what is it, 33 houses was our last magic number, have to be torn down because of this explosion and MythBusters couldn't even get a shack to fall over. This is bull crap and the drone story still stands versus this. Have you heard this? Yeah, yeah. And you're buying it? No, not necessarily. Oh please, it's not even not necessarily. I'm not buying the drone thing. Okay, but it's just as good as this. Well, they're both pretty lame it seems to me. But there's no like everyone's like, oh, okay. Yeah, that makes so much sense. I mean if you had a bunch of C4 in the house. No, no, they say the brothers, they literally just let the natural gas flow in after removing the regulator. I mean you'd have to have the house hermetically sealed and even then, you know, what are you going to seal it with because the pressure would just be too much. And then they blew it up with

2:36:26 with a microwave oven that was timed. That's like. A couple of things about the microwave oven. I don't, well I guess maybe a real good microwave oven lets you program it in advance so it goes off and starts cooking something an hour from now. I don't have one like that. Of course I don't have a microwave oven at all, but I've never seen one like that. I think most of them you punch in the code, you hit the button and it starts cooking. Well, that's how most people use it. But apparently these people were... I mean, honestly, if I even had one, I don't know if I could figure it out. How could you figure out how to do all that programming? And then you had to put something in it that sparks, because I don't think the microwave oven itself would set off anything. So you had to put a piece of metal in there or something. I don't know if that's discussed. Nope. Not according to the AP story, no. I think the MythBusters thing is probably... yeah.

2:37:20 Yeah, it's hard to, it's not that easy. Not, you know, I mean, when you have a huge, like a giant pipe, like the one in Brisbane or where the peninsula of California where the pipe broke, like a huge gas line broke and then ignited and exploded. Yeah, but it's just a bunch of gas leaking into the house. I don't know, did people smell gas? I don't know. I never heard any reports of that. No, but I just love how it's just cleaned up at the end of the year. Okay, no, it's the end of your time. Yeah, we can't keep these stories going forever Well, then the final cleanup for the end of the year, which is also just completely underreported Is this the Swiss banking giant UBS has been ordered to pay a 1.5 billion dollar fine for its role in the manipulation of the London Interbank offered rate or LIBOR which provides the basis for rates on trillions of dollars and Transactions across the globe the rigging of LIBOR meant millions of borrowers

2:38:16 paid the wrong amount on their loans. The bulk of the fines, 1.2 billion dollars, will be paid in the U.S., with the rest going to Britain and Switzerland. As part of its settlement, UBS has also admitted to committing wire fraud through its Tokyo branch on LIBOR rates in Japanese currency. I love this! I love this! 1.2 billion dollars. First of all, where does the fine go to? Does it go to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? You know, these who have, you know, there's like trillions of dollars in derivatives, in all kinds of payments, all, lots of citizens have been, um, have been screwed by this. And then it's like a slap on the wrist for UBS? Oh man.

2:38:59 Yeah, that UBS thing is ridiculous. And they committed wire fraud. Wire fraud! Don't you... Are you supposed to go to jail for stuff like that? If you did it, you would. Well, yeah, then there's me. And I think outside of the... Outside of it being very cold in Europe and... Oh, by the way, I think the Ukraine is now minus 50 degrees or something and Moscow coldest ever. Coldest ever? Yeah, coldest ever. Shh! Shh! Shh! Don't tell anybody. Oh, nicks, nicks, nicks, nay on the old K. Don't tell anybody about that. Yeah, all right. So I guess we won't speak before Christmas. Yeah, how about that? Well, Merry Christmas to you and Merry Christmas to all the No Agenda listeners, that's for sure. Yeah, well, definitely. Merry Christmas to you, John, and to the entire Dvorak clan up there.

2:40:02 Is everyone gonna be there at home for the holidays there? No, no, no, let's kill juniors gonna be stuck down in the California. Oh, oh Wait a minute with the girlfriend's parents. No, no, no, they're in Michigan. Oh, so he's all alone Sorry, he's always with his girlfriend down there, but she's working for a living and she can't leave because she can't come up here So he can't come up here. Okay. Well, I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry for BK jr I'm gonna have a second Christmas down there, too

2:40:38 The you want to play the the raw audio of this clown in Newtown yeah, you think it's good. How long is it? Is it really long or long? It's about five six minutes But it's it's entertaining because Aaron Burnett asking him stuff and he changes his story And he talks about one thing or another then he goes into kind of a breakdown and starts crying Okay Yeah, what you think entertainment is yeah, and then unless something really really crazy happens I think we should just talk stop talking about it because then help we do you know yes? I would like to stop talking about I don't want to talk about it anymore. Let's ban it from the show, okay? We'll put that in the band corner, and we're all done well anyway We shall be having a very sparse little Christmas here. We have a small Christmas tree about two feet in height standing on the windowsill

2:41:35 Yeah, it is kind of weird. Kind of weird. Anyway, thank you, all of you citizens, for your lovely letters and emails and words of encouragement. We're still hoping to be back in Austin somewhere around mid-January. That's what it's looking like now. I'll keep you up to speed. In the meantime, don't eat me, Hillary Clinton. You might get indigestion, hit your head, and lose consciousness. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation Lowlands, day 17 in exile in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. And from the Pacific Northwest, the Nabuzkill Bunker, attacked by docks from Japan, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.

2:42:24 Did you have any idea that something was wrong? I had no idea. I thought they were doing a skit or maybe they were cub scouts or girl scouts and they were just practicing because they were sitting so nicely. But then I saw a man in a very agitated way saying it's going to be all right. He kept raising his voice. And I thought that was so strange. And I came to the children and they were crying and wailing and mortified. And there was a school bus driver with them and I invited them into the house. And she said there had been an incident at the school. I had no idea what it was. And the children, how did they find the words to tell you? Because they told you, right? The teacher had died. They told me. They just start talking. The two boys mostly talked.

2:43:15 And they said, we can't go back to that school. We can't go back. Our teacher is dead. What are we going to do? We don't have a teacher. And I could not take that in. I could not accept that. And I just kept listening to them. And then they talked more. And the boy said, oh, no, it was a big gun and a small gun. And then I knew. And then they said there was blood. That was blood. And then they said her name and I prayed that it wasn't that teacher and it was. It was that very pretty 27-year-old teacher. I don't know how they fled. I think she must have protected them and saved their lives. I don't know if they ran all the way down the boulevard, the street next to the firehouse. I don't know how they got to my house.

2:44:18 They were so brave and they were so good. I brought down some toys from my grandson's toy chest and I gave him some juice and we called their parents. They were very brave and very good. And I was amazed, I was astounded at what they were telling me. How they noticed everything. And I know you're a psychologist by training, but you talk about being a grandfather. It was the grandfather that was you at that moment. That's what trained me, being a grandfather. I felt like I was with

2:44:58 My grandchildren, and I felt perfectly happy with them. That's what trained me. My granddaughter and my grandson, and they were with me and I felt comfortable. They were very sweet and they calmed down a little, but they were so, they kept repeating that they can't go back to the school because they don't have a teacher. And their grieving is going to be hard for adults to understand. It will be different. It may be more intense. It just will be different. What message do you have for those children that came onto your yard? I want to be reunited with them. I want to see those children and I want to tell them how good and brave and strong they are. I want to tell their parents that. And I want to tell them that I want to be their friend and I want to read to them. I want to give them something special for Christmas. I want to be their friend. I want them to see me in light.

2:46:00 instead of darkness as I saw them. I want their parents. I hope they'll call me because I want to see those children. They were very good children. And then something happened with one of the boys out of this grief and this carnage and he stopped and he became very composed and all of a sudden he stopped and he looked at me and he said, Just saying your house is very small and I thought I thought I What a bright, wonderful boy. He just brought to all of us a respite from all this darkness. You know what? I want to see these kids. I hope their parents will call me. I want to just put my arms around them and tell them that I love them. I want the children

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