Episode 372 · Sunday, 8 January 2012

Free Ponies for Everyone!

Satirical candidate Vermin Supreme promises free ponies for all as the mainstream media coordinates a blackout of Ron Paul’s surging constitutionalist campaign.

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About this episode

Vermin Supreme disrupted the 2012 presidential cycle by appearing on C-SPAN with a boot on his head to propose a pony-based economy and zombie-powered energy. This satirical campaign highlights the absurdity of the Republican primary, where Jon Huntsman and Mitt Romney clashed over Mandarin fluency while George Stephanopoulos faced accusations of rigging debate questions to favor establishment candidates.

Media erasure of Ron Paul continues as CBS News and MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell omit his polling data despite strong New Hampshire numbers. Meanwhile, Rick Santorum faces scrutiny for his past sponsorship of Jerry Sandusky for an adoption award and his claims that falling unemployment is merely a result of hopeless citizens leaving the labor market. Internationally, the Obama administration authorized defense aid for South Sudan based on mass killing rumors that the UN later labeled a false alarm, while the State Department launched Farsi-language Twitter press conferences to influence Iranian digital spaces.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the mysterious electronic failure in a Hampshire village that silenced car locks and doorbells for two weeks. The duo also explores the sustainable food scene in Austin, Texas, where local farmers sell eggs named after the chickens that laid them. Guy Boazie is officially knighted for his contributions to the value-for-value model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 48 Discussion

Skype Technical Issues and No Agenda Show Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 372 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. Dvorak reports persistent Skype crashes on his Windows 7 netbook despite performing no recent software changes. The hosts welcome listeners from the live stream and recount an anecdote about gaining a new listener via a shelf installer.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· skype· windows 7· netbook

00:00 These dogs are trained to lie. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday January 8th 2012 time for your Gidmore Nation media assassination episode 372 This is no agenda. Aputadi ojitijitching from Camp Mofo here in Austin Texas the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's unseasonably warm I'm John C. Dvorak Hey, there we go. What the? Sorry! I don't know what happened there... What was it? Something didn't fire right, i dunno. It's software maybe? I'm having software issues after the first of the year. Yeah. Yes, we discussed this on the last show. Skype is crashing- you claim just for people out that techies out there You claim that you've done nothing to this machine its running Windows 7 beginner Starter

00:58 It came installed on the netbook. I've done nothing, I reinstalled Skype since the latest version and then you called this morning and it crashed right away! And i do have nothing on this machine Yeah and it crashed last week Last show a couple times in a row two or three times Who cares? There's been nothing changed on this machine ever since its inception No, do you have graded windows? Have you gotten a oh yeah. I know I do all that crap Yeah of course must be something yeah Of course it has something to do with that You think the one department of Microsoft is talking to the other you fool

01:35 Anyway in the morning to you there. I'm already in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground and feet in the air Yes, and of course through all of the human resources who are in our chat room Loyally we've got a good showing today Which is nice that's no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net everyone's there When we do the program live Thursday and Sunday mornings That would be 9 a.m.. Gitmo Nation West time You know had a guy here on Thursday after I did the show he was putting in some shelves And I walk out He says Hey man, um... you got a card or web address for that show? Because Mickey was listening to it. That's pretty cool man! Picking up listeners we've got another one One more listener everybody That's how we do it one at a time So the overnight ratings are in John

CHAPTER 02 / 48 Discussion

Republican Primary Debate Ratings and Diane Sawyer Criticism

Television ratings for the Republican primary debate on ABC show a significant loss to NBC's football coverage, with the debate receiving only a 3.7 rating. The hosts criticize ABC for allegedly burying Ron Paul by giving him minimal speaking time. Diane Sawyer's performance as a moderator is mocked for her slow speech and repetitive saluting of the audience and troops.

republican debate· nbc· abc· diane sawyer· ron paul

02:24 And? Guess what, nobody watched the Republican debate. That's too bad it was actually one of the more interesting ones it was somewhat entertaining I have the numbers here NBC dominated primetime with a whopping 19.2 rating a 33 share That's like So 1 3rd by the way note the magic number there 1 third of all sets in use were tuned to the football game What was ABC thinking and they got a three point putting it up against the foot? But yeah, this is one of them The game that it was up against was the only interesting game and the playoffs totally idiotic

03:04 And they got a 3.7 rating, a six share which is... So that's about three and half million people watched of nobody They didn't want anybody to see Ron Paul because they knew they'd have to give him some time. If you remember, ABC was the operation that gave Ron Paul 60 seconds in a two-hour debate. Well yeah well they did it again I felt. You know they were cutting the commercial for him but then wouldn't cut for Mitt Romney but i will say our lineup to the T... The way we said they should put them on the stage? They listened to us uh in that regard? Yeah um the only thing that they didn't take our advice The musical and comedy entertainment blocks. I mean this is what they should do during the show Have like a comedian come out do a little quick stand-up Tell you something Yeah, or have Taylor Swift come out and do a little Patriotic American doodly thingy that's what they should do then it would be really interesting now It's just like ah

04:02 And Diane Sawyer, really? She is the worst isn't she. What is this we salute you! It's like she's plastered or something she just kind of slurs...she's really talking slow and I don't know I liked her less and less and less the more i see her. But she keeps saluting everybody, you know the troops And we salute each and every single one of them What does that even mean? We salute the troops Are are you in the military Diane Sawyer You salute the troops! And then at the end She salutes everybody In the audience We salute you What is that?! This is as dumb As thats a good question Its not... its dumb Don't salute me

CHAPTER 03 / 48 Discussion

Jon Huntsman Mandarin Exchange and Foreign Asset Claims

Jon Huntsman and Mitt Romney clashed during the debate when Huntsman spoke Mandarin Chinese, leading to a viral moment of Romney appearing frustrated. The hosts characterize Huntsman as a potential foreign asset or spy for China due to his linguistic skills and diplomatic background. Romney is described as acting like a "spoiled brat" in response to the exchange.

jon huntsman· mitt romney· china· mandarin· republican debate

04:49 She's she's in Salute everybody it's stupid. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life, and we salute you every single one of them Why don't you do 80 thousand salutes? And we'll get back to you right after this one big giant right arm so I did think there was one moment where both Romney and Huntsman lost major league points major league points And it was subtle, but anyone who was watching lost points. And it was this moment... As they would say in China, he doesn't quite understand the situation So there's two things here First of all, it's a great shot of Huntsman doing this Mandarin thing which by the way I've now just made into a jingle It just sounds so awesome

05:45 And then you see Romney throwing his hands up going, like a little idiot schoolboy. Like that's not fair! He speaks Chinese So it shows A.) That Romney is like a little spoiled brat You think? and it shows that Huntsman is clearly a foreign asset for the Chinese The guys are spies! Total spy I'm telling you You know the guys on the phone talking to the Reds Yeah, the Chinese say that all the time. I actually thought at the very end of this show, I thought also Huntsman essentially shot himself in the foot with a bunch of bull crap! Did you notice that everyone had received similar advice including Ron Paul? Just hang back don't get in any trouble everything will be okay

CHAPTER 04 / 48 Discussion

George Stephanopoulos and the Contraception Question

George Stephanopoulos questioned Mitt Romney on whether states have the right to ban contraception, a move the hosts view as a "rigged" attempt to discredit Romney. Ron Paul intervened by citing the 10th Amendment, which the hosts interpret as a subtle win for Paul's constitutionalist platform. The segment highlights the perceived bias of ABC News due to Stephanopoulos's ties to the Clinton administration.

george stephanopoulos· ron paul· mitt romney· 10th amendment· contraception

06:41 And so Ron Paul was, you know they didn't come to him which actually was in his favor I think. They didn't come to him on a number of issues Yeah like the 10th amendment one. Tenth amendment... Which they had Romney tied up! That I think... Tongue-tied! ...that i think because of course we know ABC particularly ABC News is completely compromised the news president and his sister's personal advisor to Obama So this whole thing is rigged and it was Stepanopoulos It was his mission was to show the crazy Mormon Romney and to discredit him. That's why he came, it was completely ridiculous because Romney just wasn't having any of it but it was so uncomfortable and convoluted. Play the Romney douchebag Ron Paul call-out clip near the bottom.

07:35 Okay. Oh, this one! Yes? Do you believe that states have the right to ban contraception or is that trumped by a constitutional right to privacy? George this is an unusual topic that you're raising. States have a right to ban contraception I can't imagine the state banning contraception. I can't imagine the circumstances where a state would want to do so and if I were a governor of a state... Or a legislator of a state I would totally and completely oppose any effort to ban contraception So you're asking, given the fact that there's no state that wants to do so and I don't know of any candidate who wants to do so. You're asking could it constitutionally be done? We can ask our constitutionalist here...

08:18 I thought that was actually a win for Ron Paul. I thought it was in a very subtle way but it was, I don't think the panel though so and I think the people on stage none of them believed that was the case but I agree with you. Yeah I think they were like yeah that's right Ron Paul is the only guy who would, who's done with the Constitution to him by the way. No, oh ask him because he would have said look it's up to the states you know that 10th amendment the Tenth Amendment and then that's when Stephanopoulos interrupts them and then throws it to Perry who by the way I like Rick Perry last night not for what he stands only spoke five times? He's just a well that was a helped but he was a he can't he's taking all its Cinderella story you watch we're gonna start calling this uh what's gonna happen Tuesday now I have not recorded

CHAPTER 05 / 48 Discussion

Candidate Performance and Newt Gingrich Sports Gaffe

Rick Perry is noted for his likability in recent appearances, while Newt Gingrich is criticized for a gaffe where he claimed he would be watching a college basketball championship that was actually a football game. Rick Santorum is described as having a sneering demeanor and being compared to a child who was never picked for sports. The hosts predict Gingrich will soon drop off the political radar.

rick perry· newt gingrich· rick santorum· college football· gaffe

09:08 the debate this morning, which is probably just pretty much a replay from what I've seen so far. But i think that we're going to see Newt Gingrich drop off the radar completely We're gonna see Rick Perry move up people are liking him because he's just he's just a teddy bear likable guy even though he's a total douchebag And that kind of showed up at the end there where they did their... So if it was Saturday night and you weren't at this god-awful debate, what would you be doing? I've got that clip actually. It's worth playing but i have to set it up. Okay. It starts off with the question what would you be doing on Saturday night and Rick Perry begins it and sets the stage by saying well I'd be out shooting! Which clip is it? You have to help me out here. Let's see.. If you were a tree

09:55 Oh, okay. Yeah that makes... Thanks for the production notice. Sorry. Instead of being shot at? Yeah. Speaker Gingrich I'd be watching the college championship basketball game. Duh! What an idiot! Whoa! What an idiot what an idiot football game. Football game. I'd be doing the same thing with my family we'd be huddled around and we'll be watching the championship games. Afraid it's football. I love it yeah I'd be home with my family, but if they all went to bed. I'd probably read an economic textbook That's what I want my president doing I want him working Yeah, no one I'm doing stuff for the for the country and then comes the de duchy is dancer I'd be on the phone with my two boys in the United States name because you're a constant reminder of what it's great about this nation and awesome about the emerging generation

10:52 Let me say something so a huntsman totally he's a CIA spy. He's a Chinese asset Get the hell out of here just go away Yeah, we heard you commie commie rat bastard But let's talk about Santorum for a second. Oh by the way Gingrich will be kicking himself for days over that comment because you know he was always a fat kid in school, never played sports had nothing to do with him and just threw that out realizing what a gaffe it was when the audience dropped dead So remember the kid in school Who would never get picked for the dodgeball because when he was on your team, he always got the ball thrown in his face and would cry. He got hit a lot! That is Santorum! That is Santorum! He's the guy who got the dodgeball in his face all of the time. And he has no lips!

11:43 He just has a hole, like a poop hole in his head. And he's always sneering. He seems to be sneering constantly and by the way I did catch another uh... and then i think it was throughout only caught one because they couldn't stand listening to that guy But by the way, this is what we do so you don't have to I know y'all were watching football and thinking This is a great game. Oh and by the way Saturday night the championship games on Monday night just for the record So they're dare and get that right but anyway Santorum still at it see if he can catch the little phrasing Bottom oh, I know I understand why I'm doing wrong sorry. I didn't have it sorted by

CHAPTER 06 / 48 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Knighting of Guy Boazie

The hosts acknowledge executive producers and donors, including Guy Boazie from Israel, who is knighted after fulfilling his donation requirements. Other donors mentioned include Zohir El-Hamri from Dublin and Mark Siring from Brooklyn, who donated in honor of Tom Starkweather's birthday. The segment reinforces the show's "value-for-value" model and the concept of "karma" for supporters.

guy boazie· zohir el-hamri· tom starkweather· knighthood· donations

12:22 Alphabetical now I can find everything okay here we go some public policy center and wrote on the cause of Iran And wrote and lectured all over this country. I got involved with a health care company Why because I was afraid what was gonna happen, and I was asked by a healthcare company to be on their board of directors Directors directures because I was why because I was and that's what that note from one of our producers mentioning how this mechanism works mm-hmm the neurologist he says why because it's supposed to ask for donations that's right why because you need to donate to the no agenda show. Because we need the money, why? Because we do! We came up short again in fact we should mention our executive producers okay well we'll do that and then I want to continue because i have a few other things oh yeah extraneous all right if I had anything on the ball why because then we would be asking for more money good one John very nice yes like what you're doing well you're doing well alright we do have a couple of executive producers and

13:22 One associate executive yet to we get a guy Boise. I think it's Boise is the wazi yeah Guy Boise from Israel he's the guy that sent Mickey the emergency OB tampons when they were no longer available in stores, I know she's cringing right now by the way He was 3693 you have his note I do oh You don't I didn't know i was supposed to save his note. Oh okay well, I have his note hold on a second... I'm just-I have it! I just wasn't uh oh because the gardener knows what i'm thinking of sorry yeah anyway guy who's finishing his knighthood that's what the note was this is his yeah he says 2011 just ended a few days ago made it clear that freedom is now under serious attack and all of Gitmo nation I think we can agree to that

14:19 So now as 2012 starts with a new project I just received, and finally able to complete my knighthood and offer some value back to you guys. I have been forced into being a boner rather than a donor for too long! And sending this donation clears a debt from my conscience. Thanks for creating the best podcast in the universe, it would be great if you could de-douche me and offer some karma up for his Gitmo gambling visit this week. Absolutely! We appreciate it and we'll be very happy to welcome you to the coveted Knights of the Noah's Ginter roundtable later on in the program. You've been de-douched...you've got karma. Tight!

14:58 And $300 also came in from Zohir El-Hamri, from Dublin. Dublin Ireland? Yeah. He says Dublin Dublin maybe it's... Dublin Ohio? There is a Dublin Ohio I think but it's probably... I think its Dublin Ireland as my guess. I don't have a note from him and finally associate executive producer for todays show Excuse me 372 is is Mark siring a new donor on the scene Yeah from Brooklyn This is a collaborative donation in name of our good friend Tom Starkweather from Derek mark Matt Max Pete and Joseph Joseph

15:41 Tom's birthday is on the 10th. We'd like to give him a birthday shot, we'll do that today Some karma and a reminder to mind the beanbag stark weather Alright! Mind The Bean Bag Stark Weather Here's your Karma Shot You've got... Karma And by the way karma is uh.. A real thing Apparently people like it. People want it, people enjoy it and works for them We're not gonna argue I actually think it's the sound of the bell Oh! It's the harp without a doubt Well no its one of the two Maybe is the woman voice So I think our campaign of donating is loving is failing miserably

CHAPTER 07 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Value-for-Value Model and Open Source Branding

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the show's financial status, noting that donations are currently down. They encourage listeners to contribute based on the entertainment value they receive, comparing the cost to a movie ticket. The hosts emphasize that the show is "open source," allowing listeners to use their catchphrases and content without fear of trademark litigation.

value-for-value· open source· paypal· branding· podcasting

16:17 Well, as Buzzkill Jr. mentioned you haven't used it right Oh I haven't used it right! That was my fault Whenever just so you know whenever donations are down John will always send out an email to me saying Donations are in the toilet must be because you did this that or the other It's always something I did You spoke about that You played on the pre stream I did that once You do it all Don't make me publish all the emails Jean-Claude Dvorak. Yeah, okay maybe a couple of times See? You're horrible man and I know why you do it you do it just because you got nothing better to do We want to remind people to go to dvorak.org slash na channeldvorak dot com slash NA noagendashow.com or noagenanation.com And yeah the donations are down and

17:11 I think it's just a time of year. This time of year, where it always starts off slow we haven't got any good promotions. I blame myself for that! I haven't sent out an update to email by anyone so neither one of us have been promoting people to get on the mailing list Oh, I have it in every single show notes. It's right there at the bottom of my website too but you should tell them to do what people ahhh... There is like oh let me..I gotta click something that's like a lot of work man. Have to type my address We sat through hours of bull crap debate we're gonna sit through more after the show today and listen to whatever they said this morning. We have to continue i mean we're doing the work

17:54 Please. And we want to mention to people that we do what? Pay bills for this! Five hours a week minimum, which is 20 hours a month and compare that to what you get for going to a two-hour movie that you'll spend... I took people to see the movie recently it's 35 bucks for three people and that's minimum plus all the crap you can buy to eat which i avoid And it's just, you know, think of it as a form of entertainment that your... You pay for. It's like $5 subscription or just send in some extra money the leftover money in your PayPal account Or don't go on a date one night and figure out what the hundreds of dollars that you were gonna spend Not getting laid

18:38 And not getting laid think about that. Yeah, send us money when you're not getting late just think of us yeah Exactly and it'll be just as satisfying Guaranteed you'll get screwed some other way so we're screwed by the government then that's what we point out to you So you're gettin screwed somehow? But we should but listening to this program and participating in the many programs We have and the karma program Should without a doubt make you more interesting at cocktail parties at that office party because you'll have something to say And we teach you how to say it and not to come off like a total douchebag, and we help you out You would give you sound clips show notes were constantly on the tweeters

19:19 And we're doing research. There's a lot of one-liners you can steal from us All of them, please! It's open source You can do whatever you want You can print up t-shirts and sell them Not give us anything if you want Yeah, you can do whatever you want. It's open source exactly which is the only open-source show yeah true everybody else is all freaked out oh they're gonna steal my name our brand Our brand! Who's gonna steal a no agenda name and get away with it? It's not gonna happen but what is the value of our brand really apparently not much this week alright here comes time for brain program. Dvorak dot org slash N A why because? Donating is loving let's do it again you stepped on me hold on Dvorak dot org slash NA Why Because? Donating is Loving a couple of PR associates did check in for this program with a couple of domain names that are forwarding to the noagenda show .com website kicking right off with donatingisloving.com well there you go

CHAPTER 08 / 48 Discussion

Domain Name Forwards and RonPaulWontWin.com

Several new domain names have been registered by listeners to forward to the No Agenda site, including "prostateoftheunion.com" and "donatingisloving.com." Adam Curry highlights "ronpaulwontwin.com," a satirical site featuring a photo of Andrea Mitchell, designed to mock mainstream media's dismissal of Ron Paul's candidacy.

domain names· ron paul· andrea mitchell· satire· website

20:20 That makes a lot of sense to have that domain name. So, that actually forwards to Dvorak dot org slash NA which is where it should be forwarding too then we have prostateoftheunion dot com Do we have the prostateoftheyunioncom coming up? I guess so huh We got a state-of-the union address coming up Prostate Yeah, that's the domain name we have Prostate of The Union Then we have you're screwed dot US which I like people that's a good one. We'll wait until you hear the last one now, we made a promise to ourselves that in 2012 2012 Which I can't I can't say 22. I gotta say 2012. I'm not I can't get into 2020. Yeah You can't I took 2012 is what comes rolls off the mat of the tongue It has more weight. I feel when I say 2012

21:10 Anyway, one of our resolutions was we're actually going to do something with a couple of these domain names. Here's one I'd like to work on that's notagreatquestion.com. I saw that one! That's not a great question you know all you have to do is put up a wiki page and let people just find these not-a-great questions the model is the following Somebody asked somebody else a stupid question that's usually pretty obvious or mundane and the other person replies with, That's a great question but not in the cynical voice I just gave. Right And it's...it just go-I don't know It's a pet peeve what can i say?

21:49 At least more people are starting to notice it. Well, I want to do it like RonPaulWontWin.com which you check that website out there's a little link there and you can just forward then it fills out an email everything all you have to do is just paste in the link and then you send that off to me and then I put it on main... The list is growing by the way! A pretty big list now right? And did you see the site? Ron Paul won't win? No I have not seen it. Take a look at it, take a look at the header graphic that I put up. It's called ronpaulwontwin.com Won't Win. Look at the graphic. You got a picture of Andrea Mitchell oh that's a beauty

CHAPTER 09 / 48 Discussion

Adam Curry Interview on Australian Broadcasting Corporation

Adam Curry discusses his recent interview on the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) program "Dirty Disbelievers" hosted by Maynard. Despite an hour-and-a-half interview, the final broadcast was edited down to four and a half minutes. Curry views the appearance as a successful promotion of the No Agenda formula to a mainstream international audience.

adam curry· maynard· abc australia· dirty disbelievers· interview

22:31 Yeah, one of the worst pictures of Trump imaginable. Yeah perfect anyway everyone else out there Of course you know these are real credits This is something you can put on your resume We will vouch for you unlike the phonies in Hollywood In fact all the way up to The Night Hoods I was on Maynard's program dirty disbelievers There in Australia on Australian Broadcasting Corporation. I think it's gonna be on the stream I linked to it a couple times in the show notes as well as tweeted out the link. It's a good show, Dirty Disbelievers and he took an hour-and-a-half of interview with me and basically chopped it down to four-and-a-half minutes but still there's some... There is a good promotion for us that's for sure. So you see so yes that's a bona fide network guy? That's real mainstream media. Hour talking you get like two minutes max! And it had to run through ABC legal

23:22 Right, and he's gotta go through legal. But he uh... I mean it's really funny um in fact uh He's put it out there so maybe we'll play right after the show Well well We might as well play the since were talking about uh Let me do this first because people always expect to know that they also can go out and propagate The Formula Our formula is this! We go out, we hit people in the mouth World Order Oh yeah, shut up slave

CHAPTER 10 / 48 Discussion

Andrea Mitchell and Media Erasure of Ron Paul

Andrea Mitchell is criticized for allegedly reading a scripted attack against Ron Paul's foreign policy on MSNBC. The hosts also point out a CBS News segment where Ron Paul was completely omitted from a graphic showing New Hampshire primary polling, despite his significant standing in the race. This is presented as evidence of a coordinated media effort to ignore Paul's campaign.

andrea mitchell· ron paul· cbs news· polling· media bias

24:02 Well on the topic of Ron Paul won't win. I've got this, Andrea Mitchell is an old network hack married to the old Federal Reserve guy. Paulson? No, no Greenberg yeah greenberg not greenberg greenspan Greenspan she's Greenspan's old lady. Hey listen to us aren't we the experts? Yeah We have to get up at 7 a but she well She used to be kind of hot but now she's like well She's older where those she's my turtleneck phase just to wear turtlenecks

24:41 She apparently has given, was given a script to slam Ron Paul. Oh yeah and not being she's decent at I mean you've seen her broadcasts she reads from a prompter well she does everything she's slick but when give it guess when she had the memorize this script it was so confusing tour that she stammers and stutters and just doesn't sound like a pro at all and you have to say this is bullcrap this obviously been scripted And here she is, blasting Ron Paul on one of the morning chit-chat shows. They're so difficult and when you feel that anger it's that wrong track number that we see is the anger against Washington. Ron Paul early on tapped into that I think he really hurt himself on foreign policy and making himself not electable The sense in the polls that we saw starting with the polls on Wednesday then our poll on Friday and yours today

25:31 uh... the he's just not acceptable to so many people because of his foreign policy positions and going into south carolina in particular that's going to be a very big problem. Mike Gattas' old Paul has always been the Ron Paul things overrated, and I'll go on The Dangerous Prediction Line and think he will be the surprise disappointing finish. Oh man! I need to add this link Oh my goodness. Well, CBS did a great job listen to this poll that they did and this is all of course also with video. Expectations are high in what has become Romney's adopted home state the New Suffolk University poll shows him with a commanding lead in New Hampshire at almost 30 points above his rivals at the same time Newt Gingrich and John Huntsman have faltered

26:16 Rick Santorum, who polls in single digits here is looking to give Romney a run in the Granite State after his near victory in Iowa. Excuse me? Where's Ron Paul in your poll?! I didn't even put him on the screen! They didn't even mention him! This has been going on since the beginning and they still do it! It's absolutely crazy Now... couple of things Santorum and Romney, I got some video of them as they were out and about before the debate. Now tell me if Santorum when you listen to him talking about because the unemployment numbers those fake numbers

CHAPTER 11 / 48 Discussion

Rick Santorum on Unemployment and Labor Participation

Rick Santorum is mocked for his explanation of falling unemployment numbers, where he suggested people are "staying out of the job market" because they are not hopeful. The hosts argue that Santorum's logic is flawed and ignores the reality of people losing benefits or being unable to find work, labeling his comments as out of touch.

rick santorum· unemployment· labor participation rate· job market· economics

26:59 Went down a little bit now we're at eight and half percent of the fake numbers because it really what happens is people just fall off the face of The earth and become bums and are holding up the sign on the street corner. They're not unemployed Exactly, they're not but listen how Santorum explains this minor change which of course if you're honest about it Just say this is bullcrap these numbers are bull crap And and people just off-the-radar But listen to what he says and tell me the guy isn't insane I Let me just share with you a couple of thoughts. Let me first just share thoughts on the unemployment numbers that came out today and I'm very gratified to see that in spite of President Obama's policies, the job market is beginning to pick up a little bit. I think there might be some optimism that maybe Republicans are going to take the White House and maybe that's spurring people to start taking some risks

27:50 and I'll take that as a reason. A lot of concern still, that a lot of people are just staying out of the job market. People are staying out of the job market? They're staying out! According to Santorum... I'm voluntarily staying at my own counter. But you think he doesn't stop there?! He continues this idiotic rant! One of the reasons you see the unemployment rate go down is because the labor participation rate is not going up which means that people are not as hopeful as we'd like them to be and engaging in the workforce. Yeah, so let me just get this right... I'm just not gonna look for a job it's not time yet! It's NOT TIME YET!!!

CHAPTER 12 / 48 Discussion

Mitt Romney Lobbyist Confrontation and Press Secretary Outburst

An AP reporter confronted Mitt Romney regarding his senior advisor, Ron Kaufman, who is a registered lobbyist. Romney's defense—that Kaufman is an advisor but not "running" the campaign—is dismissed by the hosts as semantic dodging. The segment also covers Romney's press secretary, Eric Fehrnstrom, berating the journalist for his "unprofessional" questioning.

mitt romney· ron kaufman· lobbyists· ap news· eric fehrnstrom

28:27 Santorum you are the biggest douchebag in the universe. What an idiotic thing to say! It's totally, it's unbelievable but then we have Romney and he got called out by an AP reporter this was actually quite exciting of course she didn't see this on the news where Romney saying I'm not attached to lobbyists and the AP reporter jumps on him at this is that he's like in a You know, like a general convenience store. He has in fact behind him is a sign that says ballpoint pens which is like whoever framed this shot should be shot and Romney lays into him and there's an interesting second part to this. I don't have lobbyists running my campaign.

29:17 That is not true, Governor. Ron Kaufman is a lobbyist. What are you saying? Did you hear what I said? Did you hear what I said, Glenn? You don't have lobbyists running your campaign? I said that I don't have lobbyists running my campaign and he's not running it! He is one of the senior advisors! He's an advisor and the person who runs my campaign is Beth Meyers?! and I have a whole staff of deputy campaign managers. Has Beth Meyers been on the plane with you? It has been on the plane with me, and Beth Myers is running my campaign! Absolutely! Do i know that? Ron's just there as window dressing he's a potted plant. Ron is a wonderful friend and advisor He's not paid, he's an advisor like many others

29:52 So what's going on here is the AP journalist correctly says, you got a top lobbyist as one of your advisors. Yeah but didn't you hear what I said? He said he's not running my campaign which is like really? I did not have sexual relations with that woman and then afterwards this is the thing that blew my mind His press secretary, Eric whatever his name is a total douche knuckle comes up and starts berating this journalist about how unprofessional he is and how we should conduct himself. So first Romney comes up to him and says, hey man you know this is not true what you're saying. Listen to my words

30:48 That's semantics. Why don't you pay attention to that and give me advice? Come on! He is on the plane. Hey, Dylan save your arguments for when he approaches me, okay? Let us talk. You and I will talk. I'll be glad to talk anytime. Here it comes... That's how it is run. That's how your media is supposed to behave and normally they do. Did you see it? Yeah, normally they do they very rarely did you see a sorry no guys I'm sorry I didn't want to step on you go ahead No, I've said normally I do I'm looking up who is the this press guy Andrew something or other um you really want to know because I can find out my look him up Meanwhile Donahue

CHAPTER 13 / 48 Discussion

Phil Donahue on Warrior Nation and Anti-War Platforms

Phil Donahue appeared on television to criticize the United States' evolution into a "warrior nation," noting that Ron Paul is the only candidate speaking against interventionism. The hosts agree with Donahue's assessment that an anti-war platform is often viewed as politically fatal in the current American landscape.

phil donahue· ron paul· war· grenada· interventionism

31:59 Phil Donahue, a long time talk show host who... Yeah I'm glad you got this clip because i did blog it but never could get it. Yeah I think he essentially got fired because he was against uh... I don't know killing brown people in sand didn't come out and say hey we shouldn't be doing this war stuff when it was Iraq and then they got pushed out yeah no he's always been kind of a peacenik well duh so are we! We're peaceniks! People don't want war they're not like up on the stage like these Republican guys. That's bomber I got a nuclear weapon so I shortened it up significantly and by the way bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran which is McCain humorous note yeah, I'm so years ago is also disgusting um

32:49 So Donahue actually says, you know this is crazy everyone just wants to go to war wants to kill people. Yeah when the roads need fixing I can take a video of this little entrance in the freeway up here that I bet i'm telling if you go on if you take his interest in the freeway it will break your axle! I think Mickey broke my axel last night. Well hey! So I don't know why Phil Donahue was on other than to deliver this message, which i'm fine with. But here it is... It looks like we've become a warrior nation! We bombed Grenada! GRENADA!! We are dropping bombs on crowded cities at night where old people and children are sleeping And were watching it on CNN The only voice that's spoken up in all of this campaign about this is Ron Paul

33:49 Why are we so interventionist, he wants to know. What are we doing with all these wars? How are we safer? These are very common sense observations and no other candidate can possibly speak those words It would be they believe politically fatal Now think about that You can't use an anti-war platform To get elected So maybe that explains why it's so easy for us to go to war. Norman Solomon has written a book which is War Made Easy and essentially he says if the President of the United States wants a war, he can have one And I believe that totally

CHAPTER 14 / 48 Discussion

George Lucas and Red Tails War Glorification

The hosts discuss the trailer for the George Lucas-produced film "Red Tails," criticizing it for glorifying war with high-gloss CGI and pep-rally-style dialogue. They contrast this with the gritty realism of "All Quiet on the Western Front," suggesting that modern cinema often treats historical conflict like a sports event.

george lucas· red tails· world war ii· cinema· propaganda

34:38 Now, John. Yeah, just as a note just to promote the warrior culture I do have a clip which is the clip this red tail it saw this George Lucas has come out of semi retirement to produce a movie which is mostly CG of a bunch of I guess it's a World War two scene or something glorifying. I mean people should go watch the movie All Is Quiet on the Western Front if they want to see you know this situation where we're the glorification of war meets reality, glorifying war in some sort almost in The Star Wars kind of way but it's like

35:18 It's like, is this a... was this World War II or high school pep rally? When you watch this crazy film and there's a beautiful clip within it. You have not assigned us a single forward mission We need to change the way we fight Can you help save lives? We count our victories by the husbands we return to their wives By the fathers we give back to their children To the last bullet! To the last man! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight! We fight

CHAPTER 15 / 48 Discussion

Vermin Supreme and the Pony Based Economy

Satirical candidate Vermin Supreme appeared on C-SPAN's "Road to the White House," wearing a boot on his head and promoting a platform of free ponies for all Americans. Supreme's "pony-based economy" and his plan to harness "zombie power" for energy independence are discussed as a commentary on the absurdity of the political process.

vermin supreme· c-span· new hampshire primary· satire· zombies

36:02 It's like guys are doing them. I apologize in front of the card section. I have college I apologize for the culture of what is being dissimilar it is not like all of us here? I'm gonna just drop the stream and reconnect for a second people are saying that That something's choppy, so that's not going to affect our our broadcast there we go that should change something meanwhile C-Span has this Program as a series called the road to the White House. Have you ever watched this? I you've come across it, obviously Yeah, yeah and now watch all the time Well did you see the other candidates who were speaking? Yeah there's a bunch of them There was a slew of yes well there was any can't even get any They had a whole hour a whole hour where the There was actually some serious people asking serious questions

36:58 serious candidate questions and the farce of it is that the people asking the questions are real political analysts. They're in the parties, and they actually go into the programs by these alternative candidates although the one I'm going to play for you is a Democrat and he wants to get on the ballot I guess. Not quite sure how it works... uh... well i'll tell you what he's at what it looks like after you listen to this little q and a this is not the first time you have run for president of the hampshire primary um... and their present romney has been accused that i'm not taking position where by the way notice the guy says president romney but he says president

37:46 That's what he said exactly. He says President Romney, which is interesting because this is one of the guys who probably already has a guy that fixes in on him but it doesn't matter because that's not the humor of the clip. Yeah well that's our book anyway. And President Romney has been accused and I'm not taking a position one way or another of taking different positions on different issues. I am asking you right now do you still stand by your pledge made in 2008 to provide a pony for every American? Yes I do sir free ponies for all Americans one of the overlooked issues this guy vermin supreme

38:22 is wearing a boot on his head. I kid you not, a boot upside down on his head and his platform is Free Pony for Everybody in America today My free pony platform is of course a jobs creation program it will create lots and lots of jobs once we switch over to pony based economy We'll also lower our dependence on foreign oil We'll also be able to turn all that pony poop into methane gas and wonderful compost so we'll up our soil that is being depleted by agrochemicals, et cetera, et cetera. And of course the important thing to realize is that it is a federal pony identification program where you will need your pony with you at all times. Thank you very much. So tell me John

39:12 I mean obviously the guy, he's not insane because he is doing this for a reason. Is this to show how ridiculous everything is? Or what do you think it is? Well yeah, its just satire so its the mock He actually has a really good idea Which is? The ponies, or pony poop. Well he follows up on his pony platform with a brilliant energy independence plan but first of course we have to have the serious question to follow-up on the pony platform Beth your next question is for Mr Supreme Mr Supreme I wanted to follow up Ambassador Shoemaker's questions Actually an ambassador who asked that question that great Yes Regarding the ponies... Yes

39:57 Is that the only government entitlement program that you support? What other entitlement programs are you for? Just that one. That's enough. But in the vein of energy production, I'd also like to address my harnessing the awesome power of zombies for energy sources. It's not just to run away from anymore No we have giant turbines that were working on and We will have lots of zombies And it'll just sort of dangle brains in front of them and then they will turn the giant Turbines creating energy to lessen the dependence on foreign oil in America here today God bless America

40:36 I love that idea. Vermin Supreme. Vermin Supreme, guy's awesome! Yeah a Democrat from New Hampshire...I see his picture now. It's either that guy or it's... I'd rather have the zombie guy. Put him on the list. Since he is kind of a crusty looking character there is potential here to mock Ron Paul Oh totally, oh yeah. Totally. Totally! Absolutely. But it just... You know gold standard pony and crazy man why are so many people so against Ron Paul's

CHAPTER 16 / 48 Discussion

Gold Standard Debate and History of US Currency

The hosts discuss the feasibility of returning to the gold standard, a key Ron Paul platform. Dvorak reminisces about the transition away from silver certificates and US notes in the 1960s and 70s, noting the change in ink colors on currency and the eventual dominance of Federal Reserve notes.

gold standard· silver certificates· federal reserve notes· currency· 1970s

41:18 Hunkering towards a return. I don't think he necessarily says the gold standard, but back to a gold standard Why are people so why do people say that's crazy would kill us? Are you would you say that that would break everything and ruin the whole universe if that happened now? I think it was stabilized the price of gold obviously But when they stabilize the dollar and other currencies if can't it would change the economic structures, not designed for this sort of thing anymore and it wouldn't be necessarily a good thing. But you don't know I mean... Crazy about I mean, I wasn't crazy about the idea when we went away from the silver standard and the silver certificates Which used to say on a dollar bill when I was a kid until just actually till recently kind of This the dollar be all the bills that would said one of three things they either said US note Federal Reserve note or silver certificate Silver Certificate right? I've number those. Yeah

42:12 And the difference was the ink color. The US notes were red, printed with a red stamp and the Federal Reserve, the green stamp that we see in front of the little stamped thing and then the silver certificates were blue and then they took all the silver certificates off the market, and then they took US notes off the market. And all you had for currency was Federal Reserve notes out of the blue I think it was in the 60's or 70's maybe the 70's Yeah! And...I'd have to look it up. 73? 72 or 73 I think. That was during The Last Depression which was 40 years ago. What are we going to do now? I don't know that did any good More war

CHAPTER 17 / 48 Discussion

George Stephanopoulos and Rick Santorum's Adoption Comments

George Stephanopoulos is noted for taking over "This Week" on ABC, signaling a shift in the network's political coverage. The hosts also highlight a "gotcha" moment where Rick Santorum claimed gay couples only exist in "certain states" while discussing adoption laws. Additionally, Santorum's past sponsorship of Jerry Sandusky for an adoption award is mentioned.

george stephanopoulos· rick santorum· jerry sandusky· gay adoption· marriage

42:53 So the only two things just to wrap up this Republican X-Factor reality show. Stephanopoulos, I just wanted to say that you know Stephanopoulos really is making moves as he of course was the spokeshole for Bill Clinton and he has now taken back this week on ABC News from Christiane Amanpour Because nobody could pronounce her name. Exactly, well she's she sold out of course and but I guess she still tried to be like a serious journalist on ABC and they went i'm sorry we're not having any of that but now they've actually brought back John Banner who was going to be producing this week so you know the big fix is in uh and that will not help any candidates other than

43:43 whoever is determined by the powers that be. Well, we already know that and then a final thing which I need to this came in very late just before the show one of our producers sent me this note that Rick Santorum, I'm quoting verbatim thought enough of Jerry Sandusky nine years ago to sponsor the former Penn State defense coordinator for a quote congressional angels in adoption award Citing his work with a non-profit group he founded to provide care for foster children. I have to say, the whole family's watching this. Everybody and Buzzkill Jr caught this and I'm irked that I didn't catch it but listen to the Santorum commentary on gay couples and see if you can catch the gotcha in here that's just too funny. Then this issue becomes moot if we don't have a federal law. I'm certainly not going to have a federal law that bans adoption for gay couples when there are only gay couples in certain states so this is a state issue not a federal issue

44:49 You know, we have no gay couples in Texas. I just want you to know. There's only gay couples in certain states? In certain states yeah. California maybe?! That's funny. Let me hear that again, there is only... So let's see this is how this is what it would have what an out of touch idiot this guy is and how about Diane Sawyer shouldn't she be saluting him in saying hey I salute you on recognizing that there are no gays in certain no gay couples in certain states then this issue becomes moot if we don't have a federal law I'm certainly not going to have a federal law that bans adoption for gay couples when there are only gay couples in certain states. So this is a state issue, not a federal issue

45:34 I wish they'd come to Ron Paul on that because he would have said the only thing that's correct because they made it all sound like marriage according to the Constitution is between a man and woman which is factually incorrect. And Ron Paul, its not in the constitution at all, Ron Paul says The government should get out of the business of marriage altogether which is the only correct answer but they of course didn't want to come to him on that Of course not There's a really good article in Salon Magazine on progressive... I can't stand the ads. Oh, I hate these ads. You turn on Salon Magazine and this thing comes up and takes over the whole screen. Here's what you do... Do you have readability? By the way, I've talked to editors around the country about these different publications And they all say, well we don't like it either but the advertising department insists. Then you say look, studies show that if you lose readership then you're going to lose this or that, not have as good of audience. We show them data but they insist because they like it. Do you know about readability?

CHAPTER 18 / 48 Discussion

Salon Magazine and Progressive Hypocrisy Regarding Ron Paul

An article in Salon Magazine (likely by Glenn Greenwald) is discussed, which criticizes progressives for dismissing Ron Paul while ignoring President Obama's record on drone strikes, whistleblowers, and civil liberties. The hosts praise the article for exposing the hypocrisy of voters who prioritize old newsletters over current military actions.

salon magazine· glenn greenwald· barack obama· progressives· drones

46:36 What about readability? You immediately hit the tilde key, so you don't even have to do anything on the browser. Just hit the tilde key and it immediately converts it without the ads Beautiful sepia background nice big letters really nicely formatted if its multiple page know what they do So you've hit more stupid ads It already has one page with all the pages on it That is the way these guys of course are gonna be sued into oblivion eventually I don't think you can sue them

47:16 You can sue anybody for anything. Well, you can harass them. Yeah yeah but you got to install readability and even those sites where... Another thing I hate though is that we used to do that by the way until we discussed it on the show and you got rid of them. Those double underline? Oh! I did that for a very short time as an experiment it was so annoying when it pops up in ad. I made money though like 50-60 bucks. What?! You make almost nothing. The whole thing is a total scam It's like a house of cards And the worst ones are the ones where you're mousing over it and it lights up Yeah And the other one that kills me, if your on a webpage and a little box shows up... ...and then it follows you up and down the webpage and there's no way to turn it off! You gotta look around because they hide the close button Oh yeah, and if you try hit the close button it opens up the full page app Anyway we digress

48:11 So anyway, the story in Salon. Ah yeah well they go it's about progressives and how they I should actually open it up and read a graph from it because that it discusses the progressives and how they refuse to even listen anything Ron Paul has to say Oh yes! I saw that have been shown notes actually Yeah good one lone things he says and then they... The guy who wrote the column goes on with a rant about meanwhile these same progressive and let me see if I can find the paragraph These same progressives don't seem to care about the fallacy of this reasoning is glaring. The candidate supported by progressive Obama himself holds numerous heinous views on a slew of critical issues and then he goes on slaughtering civilians by the dozens because of drones

48:57 not once or twice but continuously sought to overturn global ban on cluster bombs, institutionalize the power of presence and secret note checks to target American citizens for assassination by the CIA far from any battlefield in Yemen. He has waged an unprecedented war against whistleblowers a protection which was once a liberal sybilith he rendered permanently irrelevant to War Powers resolution, the crown jewel of the list of post-Vietnam liberal accomplishments goes on and on and on with all this crap. And these quote unquote progressives, you know they put up with this but you know Ron Paul's newsletter 20 years ago made some assertion about being mugged by a black man in downtown Chicago sorry Chicago! You can't listen to the guy he's nuts! He's crazy! Old Dr. Paul according to Rachel Maddow! The worst! He is a codger!

49:53 I mean it's a really good article because this guy just lashes into this crowd of hypocrites. Now, it is linked in the show notes 372.nashownotes.com. I have one more very...just like one of those clips where you go oh wow Fox and Friends which by the way I've looked at all the cable news ratings Fox and Friends does very well Now every single cable news show does very well with people. Who's the Fox? Yeah, with people up to 64 years old that in fact 3464 is the biggest audience except for one that is split evenly which is Aaron Burnett

CHAPTER 19 / 48 Discussion

Mike Huckabee's Pedophile Comparison on Fox News

During an appearance on Fox News, Mike Huckabee joked that Congress's 5% approval rating is "barely above a pedophile." The hosts criticize the remark as a failed attempt at stand-up comedy and a "douche knuckle" move, questioning the logic of who the remaining 4% of supporters would be.

mike huckabee· congress· approval ratings· rasmussen report· humor

50:40 But she has the smallest audience of all and it's like 184,000 in the 24-34 demo. And 190,000 in the 34-64 demo so no one is watching her total failure but Fox by far is bringing a big old audience and they have Huckabee on via Skype or whatever and listen to what he said about, just listen to this. President Obama's New Year's resolution for 2012 attack Congress as part of his re-election strategy in so called disengage will this really work? Governor Mike Huckabee is back with us governor this is an interesting strategy on the president because obviously a congresses approval ratings are at all time low they're 5 percent according to the new Rasmussen report however

51:29 As we'll recall, President Obama on the campaign trail was going to be this post-partisan president. He was gonna rise above the fray. He was not going... He's gonna make Washington work? He was gonna make Washington work! He was gonna seek compromise so what do you think is going on here? Well first of all if you notice Congress approval ratings just barely above a pedophile I mean it's terrible it's dismal Is he insane?! I mean, so Congress has a 5% approval rating. Please tell me which 4 percent of the American people approve of pedophiles? The four percent who are pedophiles!

52:07 I mean, what is on his mind? You have to remember that Huckabee is a wannabe stand-up comic. He was a Baptist minister in the pulpit and got very popular because he did material when he was in the pulpit and he tries to be funny as possible when he was running for president 2008. He was the only guy with a sense of humor it's a little perverse this sense of humor but he does have a sense of humor and can actually tell jokes And when he has his show, his weekend show. He does some material on there Yeah so he thought that was a hilarious line! He probably wrote it Well he's an idiot I don't...I mean obviously you wrote it But I mean he wrote in advance of the question So he was ready to rock with it Well he is an idiot Of all the things to say That just like really? You are such a douche knuckle Anyway Yeah I got plenty other cool stuff but I wanna see where your going Where your headed today

CHAPTER 20 / 48 Discussion

Fox News "No Goodniks" Gaffe and Media Incompetence

A Fox News anchor is mocked for mishearing the term "no-goodnik" and repeatedly using the phrase "no goodness" during a segment about a missing toddler. The hosts use this as an example of the general lack of listening and professionalism in cable news, also criticizing the "fluff" found on PBS NewsHour.

fox news· sputnik· gaffe· broadcast news· journalism

53:08 What? JC wants to know if the stream's back up because he is saying no. Look, I'm not in charge of that. I am connected and get most plays... He says it is. Okay. Yeah people are having problems blaming on... Blame it on the rain! Hey hey! I don't know what's going on. It's SOPA So I have a couple clips that might be good. I was listening to like yeah I had this assertion before that they People when you're on the network, and there's a lot of action going on that people are on the floor You have to realize what's going on behind. The cameras is a bunch of you you're not generally not listening But the best example of not listening on Fox was this woman who's then on the weekend that we can new show There's this guy he decides to drop in a kind of an old term from the 60 70s 80s if nobody uses anymore where you just add oh yeah, the guys a douche Nick

54:05 You know or a you know, you just add Nick to the end because it was referenced like a bit like a big Nick sputnik Oh really is that where the nick came from? Was there a reason from Sputnik. Oh really? Yeah No words do matter Thank you So so this guy says something and this woman miss hears it And she thinks that here are her hearing of what she thought She heard was funnier and then she rides it right to the end in this becomes us dis farce So plain no good Nick good Knicks and you're just sitting there minding your own business Yep Suddenly some no goodnicks ran right into you. Some, some... No goodness! There were some no goodness. Stunning new information about a missing toddler in your family. You're fired. You idiot. Ugh. NO GOODNESS! Like that was great. Oh that was a great remark.

54:54 Yeah, it's so sad. And you know what? I try to watch like PBS NewsHour...I try to watch the nightly news like The Big Tiffany Network News and it's a million times worse! It's just crazy! Yeah well in the worst part of that they have this one guy uh oh what's his name the Spanish Latino guy with the big square head. Geraldo? It's not as big as this guy's. I'll think of it, but anyway he they give him these long segments where he interviews somebody and it's obviously mistimed every time the segment should have ended it goes on at least two or three minutes longer. Oh he's cutting in a commercial break see that you can't do that

CHAPTER 21 / 48 Discussion

Americans Elect and Council on Foreign Relations Ties

The organization Americans Elect is scrutinized for its claims of being a nonpartisan online nominating convention. The hosts point out that its leadership, including Khalil Byrd, has ties to the Council on Foreign Relations and the International Crisis Group. They characterize the group as a "scam" funded by anonymous donors to install an establishment-friendly third-party candidate.

americans elect· elliot ackerman· douglas schoen· council on foreign relations· george soros

55:42 So he goes on and on with these stupid questions. I find that the News Hour has got a lot of fluff. Well, there was...I was watching the News Hour and uh.. I don't know if you've heard of this outfit but I'd done quite a bit of research into them. A couple people also emailed me about it thinking it was great And at first brush you might think it is here's the setup as the two founders of this new organization We're on PBS NewsHour. No third party candidate has won a US presidential election since 1860 but with unemployment staying high worries about another recession and mounting public disapproval of Democrats and Republicans alike could

56:23 Could voters be frustrated enough with Washington to upend the way they select their president in 2012? Well, one new group thinks so. Americans Elect is a nonprofit organization that wants to change the nominating process holding the first ever nonpartisan political convention in cyberspace. Voters can weigh in on their top issues and use an online voting system to nominate a candidate to place on the presidential ballot in all 50 states For more on the effort, we're joined now by Elliot Ackerman. He's chief operating officer for Americans Elect and a decorated veteran of both the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. And former Clinton adviser and Democratic pollster Douglas Schoen. He sits on the group's board of advisers. It is great to have you both with us.

57:13 Elliot Ackerman, to you first. Our political parties have been around since the birth of the country practically we have a stable system of government why circumvent them? What's important to realize is this isn't another political party, this isn't a third party. This is the second nominating process and the vision here is that in November of 2012 when American voters go to the poll there'll be a third ticket that they've directly nominated themselves so Americans elect will be holding the first ever nonpartisan online nominating convention any registered voter can be a delegate to that convention and the ticket that comes out of the convention it's going to be on the ballot all 50 states

57:51 So I'm very interested by this Americans elect dot org. And have you gone to the website yet? And I'm sure you're already looking at it now. So the CEO, chief executive officer is Khalil Bird, a member of Council on Foreign Relations already. Of course my hair starts to stand up there like we're the most transparent, but they're a 5031 C four Corporation, which means they do not have to disclose their donors. They do have the form 990 online Which I took a look at and they have one donor of a little over five million dollars And that is the Webster group

58:30 And the Webster group is a fundraising group who also do dinners and stuff. It looks kind of like the wives of politicians who have really nothing better to do but they raise money for breast cancer awareness, the president's CEO is this woman named Linda C. Webster Who is wife to former CIA director William Webster if that so these are huge fundraisers and if you look at it the five million dollars They raised that five million dollars through personal contacts and telephone outreach Because that's something you have to check off on form 990 So they basically called in a whole bunch of favors or did they because I'm looking at this website If you go to who we are

59:20 You'll see a chief leadership officer, Wendy Drake who of course is the president of the Webster Group. Makes so much sense that they're actually working together but then look at this list of leadership I mean there's just...I mean right down to Rothschild and here is this Douglas Schoen guy everyone's on this thing Yeah they are all internationalists But I noticed some names like this is interesting And it turns out many of these names show up on the International Crisis Group, which of course is the Open Society Institute George Soros funded outfit that is trying to get the shills into Egypt.

1:00:05 It's a total bogative. big pro-patriot act creating wars everywhere. A lot of money flowing through the system because of his, especially outside the US where you can scarf up as much as you can it's a scam. It's an obvious scam yeah but people are taking it seriously because you could do this thing like...you could take this poll

1:00:43 And you answer all kinds of questions, and then it'll tell you basically You know that according to their system they spent a million dollars on their platform According to their documentation. Why? Techno experts cost a lot of money to make this platform that 68% of Americans loved the drone program So yeah so I'm really I'm all on board with this so you got a boycott this thing whatever it is The Ackerman family they're all over the place Ackerman's dad, his mom and sister. It's like disgusting this Khalil Bird guy He is running the whole thing And it's not out of his bedroom he is the only one making money on it just a scam Yeah I know it's totally scam obviously a scam We had a presidential memorandum come out Uh oh Oh yes! Did you read about the report that there were mass killings in southern Sudan?

CHAPTER 22 / 48 Discussion

South Sudan Defense Aid and UN False Alarm

President Obama issued a memorandum authorizing defense services and articles for South Sudan, citing national security and world peace. However, the UN subsequently reported that rumors of mass killings in the region—which served as the pretext for aid—were a "false alarm." The hosts frame this as a maneuver to send weapons to a new conflict zone.

south sudan· barack obama· arms export control act· united nations· mass killings

1:01:46 Yeah, I did hear about that. Bummer right? Oh yeah. Downer if you're Sudanese Southern Sudanese so the president comes out on what is this Wednesday January 6th Monday yeah I guess whatever no it's a Friday six would be yep Friday. Memorandum for the Secretary of State Lucifer this is for you Subject, Presidential determination on the eligibility of South Sudan to receive defense articles and defense services under the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 as amended and the Arms Export Control Act as amended. In other words we can send services

1:02:33 Which I guess means, what does that mean? Contractors or whatever. Yeah contractors have to clean up the place and defense articles that's guns and stuff yeah totally guns and bombs And he has the audacity To say this in his memorandum I hereby find That furnishing the defense articles and defense services which means weapons and people who train people how to operate it to the Republic of South Sudan because it will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace. Really, so send more guns to promote world peace." Unfortunately something backfired because the UN came out on Saturday, the day after and said well we went to South Sudan and we find no evidence of reported mass killings

1:03:29 No evidence whatsoever. It didn't even happen, it was quote according to the UN a false alarm or false flag thank you yeah so that's your current president the warmonger You know lot of people get in office and power goes to their head I mean we've essentially elected Hugo Chavez Hey, well he has his own little show. Although man the... Well so does your... And? What about on what show that you like to watch? West Wing Week! But it's so boring. Whose show is that? It's Obama's show but its boring at least Allo Presidente is funny I don't know that its any better The only time we've ever seen when they bring clips from it and make the funny parts I mean I'm sure we should call Allo Obama

CHAPTER 23 / 48 Discussion

State Department Twitter Press Conferences and Iran Internet

The US State Department has launched Twitter-based press conferences in multiple languages, including Farsi. A spokesperson claimed Iran is "adept at blocking the free flow of information," which the hosts dispute by noting the high volume of Farsi content online. They view these digital initiatives as blatant propaganda and "techno-expert" interference.

state department· twitter· iran· farsi· internet freedom

1:04:20 I love just a low president he can use our Presidente Obama you can use the same graphic it is much this funny moments in that show once in awhile no I have not played anything from the West Wing week in months because so boring its always the same like Obama great hired for a curry Dvorak consulting group then you get some way to show up. You could sell that thing to Bravo in a heartbeat yeah we'd be on Bravo Oh boy. They're probably making half as much money I did have a laugh though at Lucifer's little department over there What is she in charge of again? Oh yeah, the state Department Of State So they've decided they're going to do Twitter press conferences

1:05:09 And the way it works... How do you do a Twitter press conference? Well, let me explain. So they have turns out 100 I think she'll mention in this clip 135 Twitter feeds. 135 and I'm okay with one and you have to tweet your question to the Twitter feed in your country in your language And then that question, they show it on the screen and then that question is answered by the spokesholder at the State Department. So you can imagine this is obviously 100% propaganda

1:05:46 We need a lot of people to go on, to follow this whole thing and do a lot of noagendashow.com, ITM... Have you listened to Dvorak & Curry? You know just all these sorts of things. Hire Currie-Dvorak Consulting Group. Hire Currie-Dvorak Consulting Group that'd be good! If we get a gig out of this yet. People want to know this is all were really about. This whole thing's a setup It's just one big open solicitation for work So you have to hear the question about Iran, which is a beautiful setup. And and the answer just was like confirmation of the techno experts we know about but wow to have it just so brazenly told in with numbers and figures this is just crazy Our next question comes from our Farsi feed at USA Darfarsi It's two-part question from at Amin LV

1:06:48 Ask State, Iran is about to cut off the internet. What's the status of the suitcase internet? And what is the US procedure on the new threat to the U.S Navy I assume you mean in LB the threats that the Iranian government has been making So first of all what a setup! Iran isn't about to cut off the internet where did she even get that from It's...you know this question is rigged to US freedom of navigation in the Straits of Hormuz. First of all, with regards to the Internet I'd like to say that

1:07:29 Iran is more adept at blocking the free flow of information to its citizens than almost any other country in the world. It's a fact! That's bullcrap! Farsi is the most spoken language, or most written language on the internet that's the fact! Farsi is number one am I incorrect on that? I don't know you're correct. I think so hold on... Let's see most spoken Language on Interwebs has to be English or Chinese. No, I think it's Farsi my friend Oh top ten in the top 10 internet languages Let's see now you're right its Chinese. I always thought that Farsi was at the top

1:08:19 Where did you get this false information my friend? on you in America, on Second Street in San Francisco where we suck up all your data that draconian method that we're selling them. Sorry that was my email when I was recording this clip. Does she really believe this crap? that they can cut off the entire Iran.

CHAPTER 24 / 48 Discussion

Nationalized Internet and SOPA Implications

Dvorak discusses the concept of a "national internet," similar to models proposed in Belarus, where outside traffic is restricted. He suggests that legislation like SOPA could lead to a nationalized US internet under the guise of security, while hackers and tech-savvy users would be forced to use VPNs to bypass government walls.

sopa· national internet· belarus· censorship· vpn

1:09:09 Belarus will do it first of creating what they call a national internet which means that they essentially cut out all you can cut out all outside trans, you know packets. You just close off everything and you just make your keep the Internet but my thinking is that's what we're going to do with this sopa and all this other stuff because it's easier for us to do it and get away with it because no one will notice. I mean how many people actually go to Alibaba? Or how many people hit the websites in the UK, and you can also have them licensed You can have license sites, in other words a UK site from The Telegraph or the Mirror Sanctioned approved Sanctioned approved license advertising whatever you want to call it

1:09:52 and you can have those so it still looks like you have an international link but you can have the internet just nationalized, just a national Internet because when the Internet began as you recall was really mostly in the United States. So what difference does it make? Well of course where it kind of breaks down is all I need is one one person with a bank of phones and you know just connect creating a gateway it's not easy if it's not I think I mentioned in the column which is in PCMag by the way for anyone who wants to read it. I mentioned the column but yeah there'll be hackers and other people that will worm their way out through VPNs, there are all kinds of ways of doing it not just that way

1:10:31 And yeah, people will be able to get up. But no the public at large you think the United States if we walled off the Internet made it a national Internet so we weren't talking to China and the Chinese couldn't get in after the argument? The president would come and say well were doing this because most people just go to do that Amazon dot com man TMZ Dotcom is not working man and the T internet down they go to Wikipedia they got all the local stuff right your right and this will keep the Chinese from cyber war because they're going to kill us if they get in somehow as babies and so I think this is the way it's headed. Well meanwhile we're pretty busy over there check it out.

1:11:16 and these kinds of efforts at surveillance with cameras and collecting of personal information is only available in the United States. Nations sort of chill the environment, they discourage people from using the internet at all No they don't! From that perspective we consider them violations of the spirit of collaboration in human rights for Iran's citizens As Secretary Clinton said in a speech on Internet freedom in The Hague last month, creating digital barriers would be disastrous not only for Iranians but for the global freedom that the internet represents.

1:11:59 She cautioned that breaking the internet into pieces would just create little echo chambers rather than creating a thriving marketplace of ideas. And by the way, the Internet is a collection of little pieces you douche knuckle! Yeah and it's like an echo chambers Now what do you think we're spending on these techno experts that we had? That were outfitting with internet suitcases I know they are not spending a lot of money on that freeway entrance over here How much money would you need to fix that up? Probably a hundred grand max. We couldn't possibly be spending more than that! Oh boy... And we want to see the people of Iran be able to participate fully in that global marketplace of ideas, so we are working very hard to assist the people of Iran in challenging and bypassing their government's efforts which is an act of war as far as I'm considered

CHAPTER 25 / 48 Discussion

US Funding for Global Internet Activists

The State Department revealed it spends $70 million annually on programs to help activists bypass government censorship in countries like Iran. Over 7,500 activists have been trained in these "shadow" internet technologies. The hosts argue that funding foreign dissidents to bypass their own laws is an act of digital warfare.

hillary clinton· iran· internet freedom· activists· state department

1:11:16 and these kinds of efforts at surveillance with cameras and collecting of personal information is only available in the United States. Nations sort of chill the environment, they discourage people from using the internet at all No they don't! From that perspective we consider them violations of the spirit of collaboration in human rights for Iran's citizens As Secretary Clinton said in a speech on Internet freedom in The Hague last month, creating digital barriers would be disastrous not only for Iranians but for the global freedom that the internet represents.

1:11:59 She cautioned that breaking the internet into pieces would just create little echo chambers rather than creating a thriving marketplace of ideas. And by the way, the Internet is a collection of little pieces you douche knuckle! Yeah and it's like an echo chambers Now what do you think we're spending on these techno experts that we had? That were outfitting with internet suitcases I know they are not spending a lot of money on that freeway entrance over here How much money would you need to fix that up? Probably a hundred grand max. We couldn't possibly be spending more than that! Oh boy... And we want to see the people of Iran be able to participate fully in that global marketplace of ideas, so we are working very hard to assist the people of Iran in challenging and bypassing their government's efforts which is an act of war as far as I'm considered

1:12:53 to block communication with the outside world. to protect the people who use some of these programs and techniques. I'm not going to get into the specifics here... Oh, because they're spies working for the State Department! But i will tell you that we fund a range of programs and initiatives that empower Iranians to access unfiltered information, to speak freely, and to speak safely online uh... nearly we spend nearly seventy million dollars a year on these programs

1:13:30 70 million a year. We're dropping $70 million dollars a year to so people can have Twitter into Iran, into their whatever their spy network? The techno experts. The techno experts are ones that show you how to use the internet cafe they're trying... They're also gonna put cameras in the Internet cafes no wonder the Iranians are so freaked out with all and we brag about it here's what we're gonna do next of these bozos How many techno experts do you think we've trained so far Well, let's see. It would take a crew of about seven people to fix this freeway on ramp so it probably got maybe twice that many. ...both in Iran and around the world at the same time we're also developing and distributing new technologies more than 20 of them

1:14:17 20 new technologies, I can't wait to find out what those are. But you can talk about that obviously so let's find out how many techno experts we have trained To empower activists around the globe to access Uncensored censored content on the internet and to communicate with each other and to tell their stories And today we've funded of the training of more than 7500 activists around the world in these programs Good job everybody 7,500 on the American tit that's bigger than our entire audience Unbelievable and it was seven thousand four hundred ninety nine then they added Andy Carvin

CHAPTER 26 / 48 Discussion

Financial War on Iran and Historical Parallels

Analysts on Charlie Rose discussed the "unprecedented" financial war being waged against Iran, including an embargo on oil sales and sanctions on its central bank. A comparison is made to the US oil embargo on Japan prior to Pearl Harbor, suggesting that extreme economic pressure could lead to a violent military response.

iran· oil embargo· central bank· pearl harbor· sanctions

1:15:01 So I have a clip, play this one. This was on one of the... actually one of Charlie Rose show they were discussing the Iranian situation and i don't have the whole clip but cut it down but play sticking to Iran financial war clip Now sanctions are going to be about cutting government revenue and I think Iranians think that sanctions are moving into a whole new arena and therefore thats a problem Jay may add to that I think what we're seeing, and i know there's a lot of fear amongst a lot of people is that the financial war now on Iran really in some ways unprecedented. Basically their entire financial system is being cut off from the global economy and as at the end this month it's going to be European basically embargo on all oil sales. And I think there's a concern that you could have like a situation like

1:15:52 Japan, you know going into the Second World War where you had a full embargo on Japanese oil coming in from Indonesia and they lashed out with Pearl Harbor. A lot of people forget that this was kind of what happened before the Japanese move but the amount of financial pressure on Iran is so intense now He mentions that essentially we've declared war on their central bank. Yeah, he says and it's an act of war by anybody's definition but here we are again with an undeclared war done by the president with his assistant Hillary Lucifer and it's just astonishing that nobody you know well you know those bastards in Iran they fucked us I mean what did they do? I mean specifically

CHAPTER 27 / 48 Discussion

Sustainable Food and Austin Farmers Markets

Adam Curry shares his experiences with the local food scene in Austin, Texas, highlighting bread and butter pickles from the Otmer family farm. He discusses the "sustainable food community" where eggs are sold with the names of the chickens and produce is significantly cheaper than at Whole Foods.

austin· farmers market· sustainable food· otmer family farm· pickles

1:16:38 Besides sit there and you know weave rugs and shake their fist. Stop that rug weaving! Iranian, Berber carpets by the way I gotta tell ya something good there John I think based upon the amount of feedback i think we have a new segment on the show okay what would that be? The outstanding food product of the week Are we going back you got more carrots? No, I have now check this out. I have a carrot down Check it out. Check it out This is a bread and butter pickle from the Otmer family farm here in Austin Otmer Ottmar ott mer an outstanding product It is so good because of course there's no high fructose corn syrup to sweeten it

1:17:34 So they use a little bit of real sugar and a bell pepper in there, and it just drives you nuts. You can't stop eating these things. Outstanding food product of the week. Huh? Well, you've got me topped! Mm-hmm We go to the farmers market every Saturday morning When we do this segment does the food have to be crunchy I think it must Yeah well if its not crunchy then that doesn't quite work if isn't you know I also had I had a vegan brownie that was made with a little bit of chipotle. And what was her name? It was made with a little bit of chipotle, it was so... Yeah but you know it doesn't sound good on the show no anyway the farmers markets here in Austin are they have a whole sustainable food community and they're very serious about

1:18:34 You get some eggs on the carton of the eggs, it has the name of the chicken. That's nice to get real eggs down there! Yep and so we bought a whole chicken and he says you know this chicken's name well I forgot the chickens name... We ate it. He said no I've handled this chicken 16 times over the past nine weeks And you know, they got pictures of their walking around and hanging out with the giraffes. I don't know if that's such a good thing if you have kids in the family? I tell ya this kid doesn't like eating animals who have names No, I like it! It's you... I think its'a good idea! Yeah, this is great! We've got honey made here locally in Austin But the produce itself is just so outstanding The carrots

1:19:28 the spinach, it's just and you walk away at the end of a shopping spree. And it's like 1 3rd of what you'd pay at Whole Foods or some other crazy place like that. Oh yeah! You're quicker, you've done much quicker Yeah and your better off for it in the community events is fun It is and they always have a band playing Or musician this is great love it so happy we moved here How are doing up there? Northern California. We have fresh fruits and vegetables here, we're in California the breadbasket of the country The broke-bread bread basket of the country Yeah well that's that I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab

CHAPTER 28 / 48 Discussion

Donating is Loving and Failed Promotion Experiments

The hosts reflect on their various attempts to encourage donations, such as the "drunk stream" or "empty your PayPal" campaigns, which they admit have largely failed. They settle on the "donating is loving" (or "donation is love") meme as their current experimental branding, noting that the "douchebag call-out" remains their most successful long-term segment.

donating is loving· marketing· paypal· experiments· branding

1:20:18 Donating is loving. So I think the real meme, by the way you can explain this but because of the research has shown that explaining it doesn't change anything but i don't think donating is loving even though JC hasn't corrected me on this because loving is not the same as love. So your saying it should be donating his love? Yeah Because the word itself, love seems to have some associative thing. This is based on research for people who wonder why we keep saying this We're experimenting. We're always experimenting trying to get people you know...to love us more Yeah! We tried the drunk thing How's that working out? The drunk thing didn't really...that's crapped out It's another one of these things we've done before in the past We come up with a great idea and think it will be fantastic Two guys take part They get drunk and they give us 50 bucks And then they ramble

1:21:10 Nobody else cares. I'm not going to humiliate myself We've tried like empty your PayPal account Yeah, that's very long or did take money from a date You know the way I didn't and then another guy then it was it two guys So the best thing we got going is what douchebags? Douchebag call-out is the only long term thing thats ever worked karma That's the only two things so that's it It doesn't matter what we do by the way Yeah, I know we put a lot of effort into this show or no effort or just do one-liners. You know it doesn't really... People are listening on their car as they drive Anyway let's give some kudos to some of our donateors lovers Devin Ostendorf in Ossendorf, Ossendorf? Ossendorf! Yeah, Ostendorf, Ostendorf yeah In Arvada

CHAPTER 29 / 48 Discussion

Listener Donations and Job Karma Requests

A series of donations are read, including a $121.21 contribution from Devin Ostendorf and a "MILF" (Mother I'd Like to Follow) from Marysville, Kansas. Many donors request "karma" for Ron Paul's campaign or for personal job interviews. The hosts provide the requested karma and discuss the meaning of "MILF" as "Music I'd Like to Forget" according to Maynard.

devin ostendorf· gary johnson· ron paul· milf· karma

1:22:01 Colorado. It's a little long note, he says you don't have to read the whole thing but he says I've listened to The No Agenda Show since episode one and i'm ashamed to admit that this is my very first time donating... ...to the cause! he says my god don't be ashamed that's okay if it takes you 370 episodes it's fine we're happy thank you. He enjoyed the clip show and went on to say please accept a donation of 121 21 a palindrome from which multiple meetings meanings could be derived, It is now 2012 the sum of my pair of consecutive digits in the magic number of three etc as a first step toward making amends for my long

1:22:42 term douchebaggery. Hopefully this will stave off my excommunication from the first Church of No Agenda if you spare some, please dish up some co-karma to Gary Johnson and Ron Paul apparently the only two candidates for president who aren't outright bloodthirsty. Here we go Gary Johnson and Ron Paul. You've got karma. And he says I beat you too. GW Obama yeah well you know it's the karma is good for a week so this could actually help Ron Paul that for the primary on Tuesday we won't help Gary Johnson much unfortunately I think maybe to help me much out yeah the blowjob or something John what'd i say I don't know but it sounded sexual

1:23:25 That's my job. Intel in Estonia I believe our first Estonian listener. Some amazing things have happened after i switched to 11-11 monthly plan but a small karma boost is still needed, now there was he got good karma by subscribing to 11-11 which is what people are doing this donation is also the celebrate his birthday which will credit in few minutes so give him a Karma call out. You've got Karma

1:24:05 $67 comes in from Sir Michael Miller and Tiburon going he needs some karma for a little more of the big project he's coming to a close. Hey here we go you've got karma And then in Bad Doberin, Deutschland. Hans do you have a hammer? You know this one's got a bunch of crazy letters I need to put a new font on this machine It's probably Hans-Jurg Yeah Jurg it could be Schultz He says this is a 51 double niggles on the dime A Rick Santorum style less les donation Beautiful We'll take it It's a less less donation Less less That's what we're gonna call it

1:24:49 Scott Carbon in Waterford, Michigan. Double nickels on the dime first-time donor just started listening to a few months ago love the show keep it up also can I ask for a little karma Gary Johnson and dr. Paul again you've got karma Wow seems like the media is trying that people are starting to notice the media is trying as hard as they can't do shut them up and twist their message hello I think we've been pointing that out for, uh... I don't know. Five years? Something like that. Uh, Jeffrey Gerlach, Sir Jeffrey Gerlach to you in Alamo at 5150 and this is Job Karma. Mm-hmm You've got karma.

1:25:52 Yeah. He needs some karma, or de-douching he's de-douching Nah it's okay David Lee uh...he took offense to a link I tweeted but he hadn't really read it properly and was like oh okay oops sorry I was wrong so that's okay you're de-douched not a problem You've been de-douched Not a problem It's OK I'm a big boy by the way I don't get offended that easily Milk in the kitchen from Marysville Kansas $50.01 From your milk in Kansas Mother I'd like to kiss Huh? How's that? I live 40 plus years without knowing what a MILF was and now i'm a little less innocent than before your show. We popped your milk, Carrie! Oh no... But after listening for three months I'm still with you. I used to cringe at the whole karma thing as I would usually ask for a prayer in similar situations but precarious times and Ron Paul makes strange bedfellows

1:26:39 So now I'm asking for karma from my husband who has an interview on Tuesday. If he actually gets the job, I will probably faint as we have been looking for a way out of town for about 10 years now! I won't know what to do or say then!" That's kind of the way she was expressing herself. Happens to get a kick out of giving you the show because if money is speech as Stephen Colbert often says, then this is the closest thing I've come to experiencing that and if donating is loving donation is love here is some love for the two of you fellows make the best talkers in the universe maybe someday I'll even be doing this while drunk that will be fun anyway please start my husband on sir plan with the last donation in this he gets a job well you know the rest of the story alright well okay here comes some special job karma for Tuesday from your milk. You've got karma by the way and the back channel is closed somehow if Gitmo Slave is listening hopefully can drop in right after we sign off, he can drop in Maynerd's show from ABC because in that show he explains what MILF means

CHAPTER 30 / 48 Discussion

Birthday Shoutouts and YourScrew.org Forward

The hosts provide birthday wishes for Tom Starkweather and Ray Jacobson, the latter of whom is turning 50 on Friday the 13th. Jacobson also registered "yourscrew.org" to forward to the No Agenda website. The segment concludes the donor and birthday acknowledgments for the episode.

tom starkweather· ray jacobson· birthdays· domain names· yourscrew.org

1:27:42 And according to Maynard, it's music I'd like to forget. That was pretty funny. I like it! Yeah Okay we only have a few left So uh... Yeah, yeah I don't like that Unfortunately thats why im stretching the segment Anastasia Perov in Toronto Ontario By the way on television I would be next to the camera doing this stretch motion so John would know Like a stretch motion Yack away idiot Stretch the segment Stretch it you dummy. That's what it really means Toronto, Ontario and now I think she's made a mistake here. Let me read what she says She says de douche Dennis pair off please for being a cheap bastard and not donating on time

1:28:25 Americans vote Ron Paul be awesome again. So do you think does she really mean de-douching or does she mean douchebagging? I think douche bag well maybe he did he donate if he donated no it says he's a cheap bastard and didn't donate on time. Sorry, sorry my friend. She can get back to us if we made a mistake Don Schwartz in Rockville, Maryland. Hi John and Anna please wish Tom Starkweather a very happy birthday he's a loyal listener of the show we know that and we will Justin Jovic in Howell New Jersey $50 and finally Sir Ray Jacobson in Ashland Virginia

1:29:03 Add my birthday Friday the 13th, that's interesting. Oh 962 to the birthday list I'll be 50. I forwarded yourscrew dot org to noagendashow dot com which is a good one. I'm in need of some karma. Absolutely anything for the nights you've got karma Because they do come in and they do... We're going to skip the last one because she is going to be wishing her husband a happy birthday, and I want to keep that as a surprise so she knows who she is. Okay, so we have to have a little serious chat. February! We do have to have a serious chat though. Meeting? Well yeah meeting with our listeners

CHAPTER 31 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Independence and NDAA Concerns

Adam Curry emphasizes the show's lack of commercial compromise compared to outlets like PBS. He references recent legislation (NDAA) that allows for the indefinite detention of citizens for "supporting terrorism," expressing concern over the vague definitions that could target independent journalists or commentators.

ndaa· gitmo· terrorism· independent media· pbs

1:29:42 And I know we have a lot of Ron Paul newbies, who are not new to Ron Paul but new to the show because on ronpaul2012.com they linked my blog post about us accurately predicting the outcome of the... Yeah right down to the vote count! So i'm a little wary doing a prediction because you know we've got a debate that haven't seen yet etc But I know there are new Ron Paul people in and Whatever you want to do however, you want to support the show. Do it but the way it works is we do the work It's all we do Ron did John writes a couple of columns for I don't know some things with mouse over ads and stuff

1:30:26 We put a line, double underlines. Double underlines but this is basically what we do and uh...we don't have any commercials and then we tried to accentuate that in the last show which obviously failed miserably where we showed that PBS is just taking ads and then pretending like they're not taking ad so they're compromised And we're not compromising. We are the only guys who can call it as we see it, and we're not always right but we have an open dialogue with our listeners and we think that we are providing some entertainment. We have a lot of entertainment value and also do have interaction. We are close to the audience. You know, we listen to them And a lot of them bail out on us, they don't like us. There's some people that are upset by some of the revelations I should say that we come up with like last show when I thought we should be getting a lot of money from after Adam digs up the fact that you can now be expunged of your citizenship and then thrown in Gitmo for no apparent reason. For supporting terrorism!

1:31:21 Well, and that which is vague doesn't mean anything. What does supporting terrorism mean if you write a complimenting? Complimentary article on on Something that happens to be related to something else who's never related someone giving my eyes are you can you just happen to yes it can Yes I think our production of the terrorist music television awards is going to get us that status good could happen It could happen yeah So, we typically ask for any donation. We have a number of plans and you can find all those at devorak.org slash N-A Why? Because Donating is love Oh you said that very well And it is love noagendanation.com Is where you can also find an archive with the show in case something happens You know we never talked about the iTunes debacle

CHAPTER 32 / 48 Discussion

iTunes Download Issues and Apple Sysadmin

The show experienced a two-week outage on iTunes due to an image-resizing bug in the iOS 5 environment. An anonymous system administrator at Apple helped identify the issue, which involved Apple's servers stripping and resizing mp3 artwork. The hosts thank the "good guys on the inside" for maintaining the infrastructure.

apple· itunes· ios 5· mp3· sysadmin

1:32:14 Yeah, yeah we got screwed who got bumped from iTunes for I think two weeks to shows two three shows We know what happened help it but it was only on the iOS so was only on because you know the they have The new iOS 5 upgrade or whatever and what Apple does and of course a dominant platform Yes into these things well Of course we do have assist admin on the inside which is great And he immediately figured out that it wasn't deed in Apple problem. Um What they do is, when they get the mp3 file they strip out the image and resize it so that it'll look good on all their devices. Because you have to have different sizes for different players I guess And something was failing in that process with them and thats why the downloads on the iPhone were failing

1:33:03 And he was in tears, basically. He's like I heard you guys ragging on us about the free service we provide you of resizing your images and it felt really bad but he is up 24-7 to make sure that it comes through. I don't know how I got on that tangent You wanted to call the guy out for being a good guy. A very good guy and we have, uh... We have good guys and gals all over Gitmo Nation inside on the inside there they're flying the drones They're doing all kinds of stuff that they hate doing But we know that when we finally call it when we push the big bat signal button The sysadmins will save the universe

1:33:48 If for that reason alone subscribe to one of our you know five dollar a month programs, right? That way the public will always know Amazon.com and buy something And TMZ man TMZ never go to that site so awesome junkiest site is TMZ rocks dude what she talking about Andrew Gardner I said, hey you guys read my email explaining the weird donation but forgot to ring in my karma last week in Euroland so I could use it. Could you please do it for me? Because I really need it. Of course Andrew we really apologize that we messed that up Here's your karma You've got Karma And the good news is your not dead when you emailed this So your karma is now good for a week and you're good to go

CHAPTER 33 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Merchandise and Knighting of Guy Boazie

A listener in Canada reports on the high quality of No Agenda "slave" t-shirts, claiming they are resistant to maple syrup stains. The segment concludes with the formal knighting of Guy Boazie, who contributed $1,000 and provided direct assistance to the Curry family, officially making him a Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.

guy boazie· merchandise· t-shirts· knighthood· canada

1:34:38 So I got a letter from Joe Hawkins and Joe Cool Designs. Disaster in Canada just came in. Isn't he the dish slave? He's, yeah slave. Just bought a couple of No Agenda shirts yesterday because I was wearing my slave t-shirt while cooking some back bacon...he's in Canada...and spilled maple syrup all over my slaves shirt! The maple syrup came right off due to the high quality of the shirt and then no agenda karma woven into it but Thought that you would get another slave shirt and protecting the shit out of you out of your shirt as well I had to order 2xl also called programmer size. Yes because of a serious medical I have developed recently called early onset FLB syndrome fat lazy bastard syndrome

1:35:23 Okay, we hope he gets over that so did the car down to excel my friend Yeah Did the karma leak out of the shirt or did it stay if I think you got into? Maple syrup and end up on the pancakes. So essentially The karma sauce that we have is like a scotch guard That's very good Karma Guard Karma Guard all right once again. It's org slash n a why because Donation is love. Yeah, something like that whatever close enough I'm Mark Dering, congratulates his buddy Tom Starkweather with his birthday on Tuesday that'll be the 10th. Janice Simm congratulates himself as his birthday is on the 8th, that being today Don Schwartz also congratulate's Tom Starkweather it's a little Noah Jenda family there and Sir Ray Jacobson

1:36:22 He wants a little birthday celebration shoutout for himself and he'll be turning 50 on Friday the 13th. Happy Birthday on behalf of all your buddies here at The Noah Jenda Show, the best podcast in the universe! And then we're very happy to have one inductation into media. We haven't used it very often have we? Guy Boasie, thank you so much for fulfilling your duty to become a knight of the no agenda roundtable your donations equal $1,000 actually you've gone overboard with some of the help. You provided the curry family specifically So we are proud to hereby Knight D sir guy Boazie night of the Noah's Ark

1:37:04 And that will be that. Something weird happened in this little family, a family? This little town... Let me open up the page here In Gitmo Nation East and I immediately when I saw this news report I immediately knew what had happened Villagers in Hampshire near the world-famous Watership Downhill. Now you know this of course from Watership Down. Yeah! Fear they have become the latest victims of a mystery which has hit other parts of Britain One family, The Smiths were baffled when their heating shower doorbell and even their car's remote door locks refused to work and they discovered similar problems were being experienced by their neighbors

CHAPTER 34 / 48 Discussion

Mystery Electronic Failure in Hampshire Village

Residents of a village in Hampshire, UK, reported a mysterious failure of all electronic devices, including car locks and doorbells, for two weeks. While the Daily Mail suggested a solar flare or military microwave generator, Adam Curry suspects a secret EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) test from a nearby military base, despite the electronics eventually returning to functionality.

hampshire· daily mail· emp· military base· electronics

1:36:22 He wants a little birthday celebration shoutout for himself and he'll be turning 50 on Friday the 13th. Happy Birthday on behalf of all your buddies here at The Noah Jenda Show, the best podcast in the universe! And then we're very happy to have one inductation into media. We haven't used it very often have we? Guy Boasie, thank you so much for fulfilling your duty to become a knight of the no agenda roundtable your donations equal $1,000 actually you've gone overboard with some of the help. You provided the curry family specifically So we are proud to hereby Knight D sir guy Boazie night of the Noah's Ark

1:37:04 And that will be that. Something weird happened in this little family, a family? This little town... Let me open up the page here In Gitmo Nation East and I immediately when I saw this news report I immediately knew what had happened Villagers in Hampshire near the world-famous Watership Downhill. Now you know this of course from Watership Down. Yeah! Fear they have become the latest victims of a mystery which has hit other parts of Britain One family, The Smiths were baffled when their heating shower doorbell and even their car's remote door locks refused to work and they discovered similar problems were being experienced by their neighbors

1:38:07 They spend much of the festive season without heating and lights after the failure of household systems. Now this uh, this Hamlet... Hold on before you finish the story What newspaper is this appearing? Daily Mail Oh! Well The Daily Mail's a... Okay go on I mean if it's like Washington what is it any better than The New York Times Really? Well, I'm not saying it is or isn't. It's just the Daily Mail go on! I heard this story too So seems to me that this would have gotten a little more coverage well Not when we're talking about an EMP strike so you know there is a military base a top-secret military base right Right near this village and all of a sudden everything stops working all electrical RFID stuff everything just got fried

1:39:03 I'm saying EMP. Now the problem with this story, if you read the whole thing and you can read it is that they blew out the power for like a week or two and then it came all back on and EMP strikes fries the electronics! It doesn't come back on after awhile After 2 weeks? I think thats quite awhile But besides the point it never comes back on when the circuit is fried its fried permanently Well here's the clue In the article itself, what can cause RF interference? It is likely that electromagnetic interference of some sort is causing the failure of electronics. But the source could be anything from an electrical circuit to radiation hitting Earth from the sun or possibly a military source and then it right there in the article. Electromagnetic pulses fired by microwave generators can be used to disrupt magnetic fields which in turn causes massive voltage surges that paralyzes equipment

1:39:59 Nuclear weapons produce huge EMP waves, but of course that being the source in this instance is out of the question. Oh really? You don't know what's being blasted off above our heads. I like tracking this stuff! Well i think you should and I'd like to see a follow-up on this story when somebody actually develops a thesis that actually can be proven one way or another Or even makes sense because it doesn't make sense the way reads Well... It's The Daily Mail But I'm sure it happened though Now something happened, I'm sure yeah. Something probably happened. Well we're in the second half of the show so i think i get one more. Yeah oh what you do a double? I'm gonna do a double. You didn't do much last week so i guess this will be okay. Residents on Long Island are trying to pass a bill in their local community um to stop the practice of consistent persistent jet

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Long Island Chemtrail Hearings and Drone Technology

Residents on Long Island held a public hearing to demand a bill stopping the persistent spraying of "contrails" over their community. The hosts discuss the "chemtrail" phenomenon and joke about developing drone technology to deliver targeted dosages of chemicals to specific households.

long island· chemtrails· contrails· drones· legislation

1:40:56 contrails over their community and there's a fabulous video. uh... of the actual hearings where they're trying to get this bill passed i have a uh... forty five second clip of one of the uh... one of the residents and these are seem like fairly intelligent educated people just goes on i mean it's like i'm listening to the no agenda audience sitting there talking to their council members saying we have to pass this bill we do not want to be sprayed anymore. We have no idea who is spraying us with what, but we have an idea with what but we don't have any idea really who's flying these planes and the average law-abiding citizen can't even get on a plane without being harassed. This is insanity, this science behind the object is sound anybody with a functioning set of eyes critical thinking process that has spent any significant amount of time reviewing this evidence could see it as sound and its clearly the will of people that educated on this matter so end is put to this

1:42:01 Please give us the unanimous decision to pass this bill so that we can show the world that America's taking freedom back and we're not going to be sprayed like a bunch of bugs. Hell yeah! We won't be sprayed like a bunch of bugs, you elitist bastards. A bunch of bugs... This is what's happening. This is exactly what's happening So I was thinking about this and it would be the coolest thing would be to develop some new drone technology To do the spring. Oh, you can get down lower Yeah, you could you couldn't do it on a house-by-house basis and give different dosages so oh that's Currys place That's camp mofo open up the valve suckers Yeah drop it in on him. Let's see what the next shows like with him Dope he'll be so doped up He won't even know is going on

CHAPTER 36 / 48 Discussion

Jersey Shore Quiz on The Ellen Show

A segment from Ellen DeGeneres's show featured cast members from "Jersey Shore" failing to define a political "caucus," with one participant confusing it with a "carcass." The hosts use this to highlight the low level of political discourse in mainstream entertainment, noting the high ratings for such programs.

ellen degeneres· jersey shore· snooki· caucus· television

1:42:52 Yeah. Yeah, sad. So I have a clip that is to change the pace here a little bit This is from the Ellen show I was kind of using. She decided to bring on some of the women from the Jersey Shore and do a quiz show around simple political quizzes of the day. Of course, this is like... A joke segment. Yeah, it's always been... It has a joke segment but anyway play it What is a caucus? Sorry? Oh! I know that's fine. A caucus?! She knows what this is! No wait, maybe not a caucus You mean part of the body?

1:43:30 I think that's something we could have. A carcass? Sorry, I'm thinking of... A caucus! Let me get a spelling on this C-A-C-U-S Caucus But it was what you were thinking Wow Yep That's entertainment ladies and gentlemen I'll be here all the week And the crazy thing is The opening uh The season opener 7.8 million viewers A cable show? A cable show. 7.8 million viewers Yeah, well I guess apparently people like to tune in and sit there And by the way if you watch any of those types of these syndicated shows like this They're about 50% commercials Oh yeah But still people will be happy to watch it Yeah they sit there watching get the kick out of it but I just gave you the gist Of the whole show right there 30 seconds That's good Thanks So The Girl Returned from Columbia

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The Case of Jakadrien Turner and Colombian Deportation

The story of a 15-year-old girl from Houston who was mistakenly deported to Colombia after claiming to be an illegal immigrant is analyzed. The hosts find the media narrative—that she successfully posed as a 21-year-old Colombian woman named Tika Lame Cortez—to be highly suspicious and potentially a "scam" or distraction.

jakadrien turner· colombia· deportation· ice· houston

1:44:33 Oh, you're following that story? Yeah so I got a couple...I actually had two clips but I got one clip here which kind of gives me the there's a couple new factoids in here which need discussion. This is the girl returned from Columbia clip. Yes. Questions this hour in the case of an American teenager who was mistakenly deported to Colombia, the 15 year old is now back in the US but investigators want to know how she could have been sent out of the country in the first place Julie Banderas live at our New York City newsroom with more on this hi Julie Major to Colombia because she told them she was an illegal immigrant upon arriving in that country the girl was even given Colombian citizenship US and Colombian officials now pointing fingers over who exactly is responsible to Cajun's saga began when the teen ran away more than a year ago in November 2010 Now Houston police say the 15-year old was arrested in 2011 for misdemeanor theft and claimed to be TK

1:45:29 Monica Lene Cortez, a Colombian woman born in 1990. Well after being jailed the sheriff's office employee then recommended an immigration detainer be put on her and an immigration judge ultimately ordered her back to Colombia where she said she was from even though she wasn't even fluent in Spanish and had no ties to Columbia After spending months in Colombia She was returned to the US Friday evening and reunited with her family at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport What is the point of this story? Well, the point of this story is that I don't know what it is. I think it has something to do with the holder hearings or something This is a covered up weird story that makes zero sense and every time you hear it reported It's reported exactly the same with information that makes zero sense

1:46:20 She said her name was Tika Lamey Cortez, which seems highly unlikely and every one of these reports says the exact same thing. The reporters say the exact same thing they're saying a Colombian woman born in 1990 how would anybody know this? Colombia is your name and why would she use this name if you're some black chick from Houston roaming around stealing stuff as a shoplifter. Why would you all of a sudden claim that you're not from the United States, your illegal and your name is Tika Lame Cortez? A Colombian woman born in 19... This bull crap! This whole story's a scam and the weird thing about it is that why did she get to be Senator Colombia they gave her automatic citizenship

1:47:09 This is like a great way to get dual citizenship. So you what you're saying is, you don't actually know what's going on why this is being propagated in the media so much? No I have no idea but... Is this a distraction of the week? Wait a minute well hold on a second that's for sure. yes ladies and gentlemen it's crackpot here from cap mofo this one going out to tika la may cortez you know we brought her back she is reunited with her friendly baby That's right, sound of the nation. You remember this song don't you big JCD? Five years in prison after SOPA passes Adam Curry has been arrested and he is in prison for five years Sing along with me everybody now because this going out to Tika LaMay Cortez. Woman born in Columbia 1990

CHAPTER 38 / 48 Discussion

Drug Sniffing Dogs and Fourth Amendment Rights

A Supreme Court case regarding the use of drug-sniffing dogs on a suspect's porch is discussed. The hosts argue that dogs are "trained to lie" to provide police with probable cause for warrantless searches. They predict that "terrorist-sniffing dogs" will be the next evolution in domestic surveillance.

supreme court· drug dogs· fourth amendment· warrantless search· marijuana

1:48:16 I was trying to get to the hook. Hold on, where is it? Here we go! It'll be worth it. Alright that's enough... Okay we can drop that story so now the Supreme Court is going to rule on whether or not uh... I guess It has to do with if somebody smells dope or something. Anyway, there's this kind of controversial story floating around about a dog smelled pot and so the cops went in without a warrant. Play Dogs In Search 1 and maybe get a little feeling for it. Okay... He's home sniffed smelled drugs inside and of course there was a warrantless search then perpetrated

1:49:14 Is that an unreasonable violation of the Fourth Amendment, Keisha? I say not. Really? And I say not because in this particular case the police officers had a reasonable suspicion and that reasonable suspicion was that they received an anonymous tip that this home had marijuana being grown in it. When they went to the home detected the odor from outside of the house so that's not an intrusive violation of privacy. What if it were police outside Keisha listening in with parabolic microphones? That is totally different How is that different than drug sniffing dogs aren't they almost identical No, its not because with a microphone their listening on either illegal and legal activity whereas with the dog these dogs are trained to detect marijuana which isn't illegal activity

1:50:04 So we, so this is a big scandal. So we have a guy that counterdicts all this but even the guy who counterdicts it overlooks the obvious thing and I think we've discussed it on the show these dogs are trained to lie! Yeah of course they are! The stupid mutts? And you can't bring them in front of a judge and they can testify. Does he really smell the marijuana or was there a code given to you to sit and act like you smelled marijuana? This is like CSI, zoom in rotate enhance So here's what this woman defending this by the way she should be ashamed of herself By the way growing a plant illegal activity in United States ladies and gentlemen

1:50:50 gives an anonymous tip which could be bull crap. A dog supposedly smells it, which could be bull crap there's no way of knowing what the dog is smelling and so you can bust into the house and arrest people without a warrant because that essentially what this boils down to now that this guy who contradicts all the whole thing did the dog in search number two clip doesn't even bring this up with I think is really the key thing that being overlooked here. Dogs are trained to detect marijuana, which is an illegal activity. Is she wrong David? She's absolutely wrong Greg the police have no business being on this porch in the first place there is a fourth amendment there is a constitution there's probable cause not reasonable suspicion there's got to be probable cause to enter that house and by the dog sniffing on that porch outside that house

1:51:40 constitutes an illegal search and seizure in violation of the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution. Absolutely, Keisha! You're forgetting that they did not go into the house... The dog gave them a probable cause to do this search so it was not in violation of the Fourth Amendment right when the dog was outside of the house and detected the odor And remember they were doing surveillance on this home Our government is there for one reason have the dogs perform this illegal search. That porch area is an illegal search when it comes to these dogs." Oh, let me make a prediction John... Do you have the book? Uh, yes I do. So we already have dogs who can sniff out drugs We have dogs who can sniff out food like if you ever fly into the United States they got the agriculture dog sniffing for bananas and nuts and stuff We have dogs that could sniff out money I guarantee you will have dogs that could sniff out terrorists next Yeah! The dog was just like... Terrorists!

1:52:42 Yeah, you watch. Oh and I forgot explosive dogs as well. Well they do have the explosive dog yeah No, no that's not a prediction that's uh fact oh yeah And who is this douche knuckle who was saying when he did tell me that through the dog sniffed him out if it if? If I see you police dog on my porch. I'm shooting him Right talks cheap Okay, cheap in Texas. So I got nothing to hide so apparently there is a Supreme Court case about this situation as it's gonna be coming up in the next week or two and It's gonna be interesting see how they come out on it But yeah, but I think the overlooked aspect of the whole thing is that... The dog is taught to lie. And not miss tip in the lying dog! The lying dog! Bullshit! The lying dog, yeah. I'm totally down with it and you know they do treat these dogs as officers of the law Yeah So if an officer of the law is on your porch that by definition is illegal search

1:53:44 Well, if he's determining you've got something going on and he busts in sure. Yeah! But the... I just think it was that one guy mean we brought up the dog thing some time ago and then I think we kind of treated it lightly and so one of our producers wrote in complaining about the lying dogs and the fact that these dogs are extremely well trained and they can be trained to sit where they're you know sit there just pretend or something going on yeah look he sitting there must be something must be drugs must be something going on bombs, drugs whatever. Bring in the drone! So anyway I just thought that was kind of an interesting side clip Well it's a... what are we gonna do? It's no goodness No goodness There is no goodness whatsoever I'm afraid this is not good

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Bill O'Reilly on ACLU Candidate Ratings

Bill O'Reilly criticized the ACLU for giving Ron Paul higher marks on civil liberties than Barack Obama. The hosts mock O'Reilly's outrage, noting that it is obvious Paul supports civil liberties more than Obama, who they claim has expanded the use of predator drones and extrajudicial actions.

bill o'reilly· aclu· ron paul· barack obama· civil liberties

1:54:32 I got an O'Reilly douchebag clip here that i'm not absolutely sure... Oh, this is kind of interesting. Yeah play this O'Reilly douchebag. Unresolved problem segment tonight the ACLU has issued a report card ranking President Obama and all the GOP presidential candidates on civil liberty issues And are you ready? Ron Paul gets higher marks than Barack Obama. And that's a scandal! Scandalous. Scandalous Because the code in here you have to remember the right-wing talkers. Yes, we hate Ron Paul. The ACLU the enemy there are a bunch of communists Right American Civil Liberties Union. And so if they rate you high like Ron Paul apparently is You're coming! Anyone who doesn't know that he's a civil liberties I mean he's most for civil liberties This is a scandal

1:55:20 So he blasts him because it's even higher than Obama. Obama should be at the bottom of the list! Yeah, well don't say that too loudly cause he might drone you. Well yeah it's clear skies out to I have to be careful. Well yeah you have to remember... I have two words for ya Predator drones That's right He is not kidding either Speaking of Ron Paul this was also on C-SPAN a lot people captured this and sent it to me And I saw it myself and this is the hot mic, check mic. Mic check John, mic check, mic check. Mic check 2-2-2. 2-2, mic check 2-3 This is at the Pentagon where they had a mic open. This was one of the reasons why we watch C-SPAN not only to be able to see wonderful people like Vermin Supreme

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Pentagon Hot Mic and New Hampshire Predictions

A "hot mic" at the Pentagon captured journalists discussing potential layoffs if Ron Paul were to win the presidency and cut the defense budget. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak offer their predictions for the New Hampshire primary, with Curry forecasting 40% for Romney and 18% for Ron Paul.

pentagon· c-span· ron paul· mitt romney· new hampshire primary

1:56:12 But also to catch these open mics, it's fantastic when they leave the sound up. Two journalists waiting for the press conference and talking about what will happen to them when Ron Paul becomes president. see this room? two thirds of us laid off when long haul was brought to the house So the question is, do they already know that Ron Paul's going to become president and just waiting for the other shoe to fall? Two-thirds are gonna be... Why are two thirds because we won't have to do any... I don't even know what that means. Why don't you tell me what that means? Oh it's because the Pentagon will be... The Pentagon will be folded! Only one third of the budget will be left so only one third of the reporters will be left and needed to report on it

1:57:12 But I took it in a different way. The press already knows that Ron Paul is truly going to be the winner. Do we want to make any predictions for the outcome of Tuesday's New Hampshire carcass? Well, if I was going...I'm not going on by the scripts that you like to go by which make you more accurate. Pure television. Generally speaking on these things but from a perspective of someone who might be a professional in the field that's analyzing what they've seen so far without hearing the last debate, I would suspect that Romney will win

1:57:52 with a large portion of the vote and these three other guys will kind of split the second half. In other words, I think Santorum maybe Gingrich and Paul each have about the same amount and then twice as many votes for Romney is a local boy so local election for him. Yeah because he's from Massachusetts? Well if i were to produce this And by the way, I'd have some of the Hooters girls at the convention during the caucus just walking around. But if I were to produce this and I want to have a good news show...I agree. I'm going to say Romney 40%, then I'm going to say Ron Paul second

1:58:43 And it will be, you're right. It will be a significantly smaller percentage and this will show because we can't... Sub 20? Yes sub-20 I'm thinking somewhere in the 15 to 18 percent range Gingrich falls off the radar but right behind Ron Paul will be Santorum with like 1% it'll be a race between Santorum and Ron Paul and then upset We'll have Huntsman as third So write this down, 40% Romney Ron Paul 15%, let's just say 18%. Just a...15 to 18. It has to be 15 actually! Then we're gonna have either Tide another one of those you know like close call 15 but maybe 14 percent Santorum followed by John Huntsman and Gingrich off the radar down there fighting with Perry That's the way I would do it if i were going to produce it

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Greece State Asset Sell-Off and Chinese Investment

Greece is selling off state assets to pay down debt, including four Airbus A340 jets sold for a fraction of their retail value. Other assets on the privatization list include ports, airports, and the national lottery. Meanwhile, China has invested 2.7 billion Euros in the Portuguese power grid, which the hosts see as a strategic takeover of European infrastructure.

greece· airbus a340· privatization· china· portugal

2:03:59 That'll be 1395 please. Yeah, so there they put 2.7 billion euros into the EDP the Portuguese power grid which Wow that's pretty brazen you know it's like hey It's great for Portugal and by the way if you don't pay us back we're gonna turn off your lights bitches but the crazy one So we've been saying this would happen and of course it gets no play. Greece is now going to sell some bonds because they got to raise money to start paying off their debt, they are now going to sell bonds backed by state property! Oh they're starting to sell off the country? It is let me tell you what uh what they're selling off... You know Governor Brown here in California has been trying to do the same thing. It's a great plan I think it's fantastic sell-off Yosemite

2:04:52 We got Yosemite. That's a national park, we can't sell that off. Can we sell off Mount Tam? Yeah you could sell off Mount Tam You could sell the state parks There are a bunch of state parks They're closing a few of them They should just sell them! You've got some old Adobe's from the 1600s They used to be State Parks Just sell em to Larry Ellison He'll buy em How about The Hollywood Walk Of Fame Let's sell that Sell it Get rid of it So here's what Greece is selling. First of all, they sold four Airbus 340 jets for 40 million a piece! That's a super- What do they retail for? Is that the Blue Book? Hold on a second... Blue Book value of Airbus A340 Let's see what the book of knowledge says

2:05:51 Aircraft appraisals. Uh... I guess, well there's an A340-200 They cost about uh... Oh my goodness! I'm getting 38 billion on my search That seems to be a bit high doesn't it? Ah..I think they're like 200 million dollars Well let's see what the new one costs No no no What does a... You'd be surprised A new airbus A340 cost Well, but these are relatively new I think. Yeah, it's only been out for less than a year. Now here you go list price $203.6 million dollars. Oh okay alright now that's the list price. Remember this is the wide body. I'm fooling myself yeah no this is the monster jet!

2:06:44 It's bigger than a 747. So that's the steel! Oh no, that's the A380 I'm thinking of. No, that's the 380. The 340 is big this is... That's what um... I think Virgin flies those don't they? Is it that the Ford Jet job I think? No, it's two. Sure? Yeah, it's the two huge Pratt & Whitney's. No, I don't think so. I think it's a Ford jet. Uh let me see uh 330 where's the 340 hold on I'm on Airbus.com yep four jets for okay, but it's got where I flew one Do they have the retail price on air bus calm no if we wanted to pick one up? Well can we can we buy this on eBay well maybe but if they're normally 200 million plus and they're selling them for 40 million that's a good deal It's a fantastic deal let me see there's gotta it said oh

2:07:40 Although apparently the Icelandic Air, one of these guys bought one of them for 38.6 Well, it depends on how old and how many hours it has obviously. I was thinking of the new 380s this thing could be old and beat up. Of all the airlines that have ever flown the Greek Olympus Airlines is the worst. They smoke on it... they don't tighten any screws. You know take that Olympus sticker off because I do not want anyone seeing that Anyway, they also are selling their ports. Is it Olympus or Olympia? I think it's Olympus. The privatization list includes ports regional airports utilities motorways Olympic yeah Olympic Olympus air you got both here Utilities the one I'm sorry Motorways a leading casino

2:08:38 public casino inside the jet, a public owned defense train and mining companies and a key stake in Greece's monopoly gaming operator. The lotto essentially. So guess what's going to happen? Yeah all the douchebags are gonna buy up all this stuff that was the whole idea to begin with that's where you form time now for our national Greek Lotto! The first number! He doesn't really understand this situation Bingo Yeah, the Chinese are gonna buy up Greece. That's well the Chinese and the Russians Oh yeah definitely the Russians a couple of weird to do the head stories that came by First this is the two top gun pilots who shot each other And then and they and then the guy shot himself in the head it was like completely weird once or twice Yeah, and the gun in his left hand it was like one of those deals

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Lele Mora Suicide Attempt and Berlusconi Scandals

Dario "Lele" Mora, a celebrity talent scout involved in Silvio Berlusconi's "Bunga Bunga" parties, reportedly attempted suicide in prison. Mora was jailed for fraudulent bankruptcy. The hosts discuss the ongoing legal troubles of Berlusconi's inner circle as they face trial for various scandals.

lele mora· silvio berlusconi· bunga bunga· italy· suicide attempt

2:09:42 Navy SEAL accidentally shoots himself in the head Yeah Right, you know cuz they're incompetent. They don't know what they're doing I mean now of course he thought it wasn't loaded and he was playing a joke and And this is Oh watch out once I'll put against my head no pull the trigger I Mean yes that's how well why do we still believe these stories ago? Okay amazing? I'm sure that happened yeah That's right But the best one Is Dario Lele Mora, celebrity talent scout who was at the Bunga Bunga parties for Berlusconi tried to kill himself in prison. Yeah sure he did! He was the guy who was uh... he was the recruiter together he was getting the chicks and he's been in jail since June

2:10:35 And here it is, he's on Trees On Trial with Nicole Minetti Anglo-Italian former showgirl who was propelled into politics under Mr. Berlusconi patronage and Dario Fede a television presenter on the channel belonging to the former Prime Minister So he's in there for fraudulent bankruptcy with his LM management company and he tried to... There's no I don't think that story says how we tried to kill himself How do you kill yourself in jail? Was it hanging? Is that kind of the best way to do it? I think banging your head against the bars maybe or... Yeah. No, they don't actually... Letting Bubba have his way with you until you drop? It doesn't actually say but attempted suicide so at least they are eating each other at this point which is good because somebody's got too

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Hyper-Rich Island Collecting and PrivateIslandsOnline.com

A discussion of "privateislandsonline.com" reveals that many tech billionaires and hyper-rich individuals are "collecting" islands as status symbols. The hosts mention that Greek islands are currently for sale and speculate on the exclusive community of island owners that exists among the global elite.

private islands· tech billionaires· larry ellison· greece· real estate

2:11:28 and uh... i got distracted by this interesting website private eye private islands online dot com they sell jets there as well right they said was i got there from the jet site but it's like a islands for sale in greece and they sound pretty cheap but that would be good ones are not she does not hear you look at it and it's a hundred million euros groups it's a six hundred forty three acre island called um... the island of Patroclus and I just imagine some, you know that you've run into this is weird but you run into when you're hanging out with these hyper rich tech people and then you start talking to them because they change the people they hang out with. Oh course! They are douchebags Yeah all other douche bags And so but they'll tell ya a couple interesting things One is that many of them...and I don't have a list in front me But I should reveal this list I can get it

2:12:27 islands it's like there's some island collecting thing going on with the hyper-rich they all own two or three islands around the world it's not just like they own a you know big resort or a castle in Spain or that's old school man they own an Island do you get to rename the Island? You can name as you owned and you can call whatever you want But they own these islands and they collect them. And so there's a big community of island owners amongst the hyper-rich, I'll try to get some names of some of them and some of the islands that they own. It think it's mostly findable. And this is my little annoyance of the week not a pet peeve but annoyance So some douche knuckle...I think on CNET

CHAPTER 45 / 48 Discussion

SOPA Blackout Rumors and Corporate Interests

Rumors of a massive internet blackout on January 23rd to protest SOPA are dismissed by the hosts as a "meme" with no basis in reality. They argue that companies like Google, Facebook, and Amazon have fiduciary duties to shareholders that would prevent them from ever shutting down their services voluntarily.

sopa· google· facebook· blackout· cnet

2:13:12 Wrote oh, you know what would happen if Google turned off and Facebook turned off first I'd be like that'll be the happiest day of my life If that happened and this has turned into a meme of sorts where people are now saying January 23rd man Google's gonna turn off in Facebook is gonna turn up And then we'll show them bastards in Washington. What would the internet will be effectively done man? Oh No, it won't. Where are you getting this? I haven't heard this! Oh, this is all over the place just do okay consult the book of knowledge do internet and that shut down January 23 and here Internet may shutdown SOPA blackout could shut down Internet major websites to shut down in protest of SOPA You know there is no way

2:14:02 Hell will have to freeze over before Google and Facebook, and Twitter will shut down. There is no way! And I can't believe that this meme is propagating- And now it's gotten so bad where people are saying there's an actual date? There's no evidence of Google or Facebook ever saying this It's just some guy who started this over at CNET saying wouldn't- That would show them wouldn't it?! They won't show anything, it'll be great Shut down Google fine good riddance. That's funny I know, I missed this completely you want your on Twitter day. It's like oh yeah, I am okay So you are guaranteed guaranteed? This will come up with hey man There's like some internet shut down the night bring it up No You won't bring it up you won't have to bring it up because it'll be brought up by the panel who was on who was on who was on Jerry pornell and then Silverman Dwight Silverman from The Houston Chronicle mm-hmm

2:15:03 Well, maybe Leo will bring it up. Dwight's pretty well researched and Parnell is I don't know man He's on a different planet. Now major sites like Facebook Google Twitter Amazon eBay Wikipedia Yahoo PayPal and more are planning That would be great! Oh crap! Shut it down! Black out their services? That's not possible It's against their own terms of service They can't do it And they're on charter they've got shareholders they have to make money they're not gonna...and Amazon Please, it's not going to shut down. They're gonna shut down and instead display a message urging users to contact their representatives and speak out against SOPA. Why have a SOPA store? I mean... We have to talk about this because first of all i've not been able to see any actual legislation

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Protect IP Act and Senate Co-Sponsors

The hosts suggest that SOPA is a "red herring" designed to distract from the Protect IP Act (S-968) in the Senate. They read a list of co-sponsors for the bill, including Al Franken, John McCain, and Dianne Feinstein, noting that the legislation uses the Lanham Act to target domain names and intellectual property.

protect ip act· sopa· patrick leahy· al franken· john mccain

2:15:52 You know, when there's a real bill and there is something I can read. I'll be all over that. You should go to this stop online... That's the stop online part you should go to the what's what's the other one IP? Protect IP Act yeah. I'm talking to some lobbyists in Washington DC about who are against all this stuff And I'm told that one of the things that may be going on is that SOPA is a complete red herring. It's bull crap, it's just to draw attention to it The fact is they're gonna pass Protect IP in the Senate while everybody's talking about SOPA and the SOPA people are gonna go Oh you know everyone so upset about this we're gonna drop it We quit! You win! You win! SOPA's dead! We're canceling it

2:16:37 And then meanwhile, Protect IP is going to go get through and then get just rubber stamped by Congress because that's the Senate bill. So the whole thing could be a complete scam cause it's exactly where it looks like its lining up cause nobody's talking about Protect IP and it's the same bill! No you're right... Okay so there is a leaked copy of Protect IP which doesn't mean how do I know that that's real? Is there an actual-is there a full on bill There has to be. Of the protected... Senate bill, I got the number somewhere. Alright, alright. senate dot gov Hold on a second. I mean, I want to find it. This will be my homework this is what all i'll do. I thought everything that I've seen so far has not been an official text of the bill. I don't think that's been presented anywhere or no I don't think its published legislation and records

2:17:37 Last major action bills introduced so it would be a bill introduced I presume? Yeah and sponsored and co-sponsored by every imaginable horrible person. Let me see... protects does the chat room have anything? Chat rooms usually pretty good at that stuff or is everyone just bitching and moaning complaining and not actually reading what this is about Protect IP Act of 2011 reported in Senate. S-968. Okay. It's a Patrick Leahy bill with every co-sponsor. 968, 968 you said? Yeah s9 6 8 protect IP act of 2011 okay all right I'll read through this there's a lot oh this is also all marked up this is all chopped up does everything has been Wow

2:18:34 And it's very disappointing some of the people that are supporting this. These are the co-sponsors, I'm gonna name them you should vote them out of office Lamar Alexander Kelly Ayotte Michael Bennett Richard Blumenthal Roy Blunt John Boozman Benjamin Cardin Robert Casey Thad Cochran Christopher Koons Bob Corker from Tennessee Richard Durbin from Illinois Michael Enzi Dianne Feinstien Al Franken, the big libertarian bullcrapper. Christian Gillibrand, Lindsey Graham, Chuck Grassley another one

2:19:14 Kay Hagan, another one. Orrin Hatch another one Amy Kolb... let's see Klobukar I don't know her Herb Cole Joe Lieberman hello John McCain hello and get this one Marco Rubio Oh now i saw his name because there is a sopaopera.com Sopa Opera? A sopa opera. Sopa Opera. Charles Schumer, Janine Shaheen Tom Udall Sheldon Whitehouse and Jerry Moran who bailed out he withdrew his support and now he's against it I'm looking through this bill and it's all crossed out when does like this whole... This is crazy everything's redlined oh here we go Wow

2:20:03 This act may be cited as the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act of 2011. Okay, the term domain name has... okay, oh Lanham Act interesting that's what MTV sued me under, the Lanham Act The Lanham Act? Mm-hmm. That's when there can be confusion amongst consumers Oh, right. And they're confusing you with MTV? Yes You are the face of MTV my friend! The face! That's right and now I've been scrubbed from history Yeah, you're not even mentioned anymore in their retrospectives No never and then it was headbangers ball with Ricky Rackman Curry wasn't a part of that screw him

CHAPTER 47 / 48 Discussion

Pakistan Internal Reports and Abbottabad Visit

A producer in Pakistan provides an update on the country's economic situation and his plans to visit the mansion in Abbottabad where Osama bin Laden was allegedly killed. He notes the strangeness of the location and the lack of luxuries in the compound, while the hosts joke about the prevalence of US drones in the region.

pakistan· abbottabad· osama bin laden· drones· pashawar

2:20:46 Bastard, you stole our property! After they said uh... Don't worry about it. You can use that internet thing we're going with AOL We think keywords are more important Stupid idiots The lawsuit between MTV Networks and Mr. Curry has been set out of court neither party has any further comment I probably already said too much. Nah he aint gross who cares nobody knows They don't know who you are Alright Some other cool stuff on the show notes just to look at which is part of the service we provide to you. We have an update from one of our producers who is in Gitmo... What is Pakistan? What is Pakistan's Gitmo status, Gitmo Nation what? Pakistan stand? Paki-Paki? Gitmo nation goat meat? Possibly. Well he says that one of his cousins maintains a very high position in the NWFP provincial government

2:21:40 But things are crazy right now. He says that people can't afford, you know that prices have gone up three to four to five times but only government people can afford food now because they make so much money but he says today I am en route to Abbottabad To visit family from my mother's side, I'm hoping to get some photos of the infamous mansion Osama was supposedly hiding out in as well as hear the locals' accounts of those nights and the aftermath since then. One of my cousins was stationed in Abbottabad as a trainer slash officer for a long time and it's strange such a sensitive location would have housed Osama without really any luxuries without any other agencies in the area knowing about it." So we've got a guy on the inside

2:22:25 Cool. And take photos and another cousin from hey, but do some graffiti on the side of Obama's outside wall put no agenda show dot com Exactly no agenda show calm right in there and take a picture Yeah, or if posters works to anything just get it up there another another cousin from Peshawar great. Yes Yeah Another cousin from Peshawar was the director general for the primary hospital in Abbottabad for some time as well I have to confirm the timelines see if anyway so he's from Canada and he's visiting family He says it's hard to even get his iPhone to work there. It's so bad That's why we're droning him who cares

CHAPTER 48 / 48 Discussion

The Obamas Book Release and Show Outro

The hosts preview the upcoming book "The Obamas" by Jody Kantor, which reportedly details Michelle Obama's frustrations with the White House staff and Valerie Jarrett's influence. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off, promising a full review of the book and the New Hampshire primary results in the next episode.

the obamas· jody kantor· michelle obama· valerie jarrett· book review

2:23:08 Yeah, drone the iPhone factory. Anyway on Tuesday fascinating book coming out which I will be reading for you so you don't have to. I'm sure you've heard of this book? Let me guess... The Obamas! You betcha. I've already pre-ordered it on my Kindle. I cannot wait for it to arrive. A lot a lot of Valerie Jarrett material in there for you. I told you my favorite biatch and The New York Times actually is running excerpts from the book, which is pretty interesting. And not such nice ones that as we already have discussed that Michelle Obama is just a raging maniac and she's yelling at everybody

2:23:50 I'm really looking forward to reading this book. Who is the author of this book? Raging maniac Well, don't you think she is? Just the image of...I just imagine her running around their arms in the air waving them and screaming In a circle fast in a circle. I can see it. I can see it. I think that authors like Here's a little one you come on up You person rat! Look what you've done! I'm melting That is a clip from the Obamas available on Audible. So Obama's, Jody Kantor is the writer Okay what has she done for me lately? Nothing She's written nothing? She's a New York Times veteran reporter. She abandoned her journalistic senses according to the Washington Post opinion Eric Wimple that's all the trending topic

2:24:55 But she hasn't written any other books. I don't know let me take another not on Amazon No, no other books is her first book oh then it was obviously written by the CIA yeah duh Yeah, what am i thinking? Yeah they fed her all the stuff that she needed and They she pieced together probably half of it was already pre-written and boom we got a bestseller So I keep an eye on her in the years ahead alright everybody have a A great carcass on Tuesday, and we will have a book review for you on Thursday of the Obamas along with all the other media assassination that we do for you so you don't have to.

2:25:35 Coming to you from Camp MoFo here in the drone star state. In the morning, I'm Adam Currie and I'd remind Joe what to bring a highlighter with you and highlight the best passages that will be wrapped listening to The Review. I'm John C. Dvorak in Silicon Valley. Now remember John on today's twit? I'm old school man! Talked to him Thursday right here on NOAGENDER. He doesn't really understand this situation Dvorak.org slash N-A