Blood and Treasure

00:00 Their alleged offense? Heterosexuality. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, June 30th, 2011. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 317. This is no agenda. Protecting our blood and treasure from the hilltop watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Yuma Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning I am the square in your Google Plus circle. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley with bells on, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. And in the morning to you.

00:39 In the morning to you Adam, Curry and all ships that see feet on the ground, boots in the air, and jets in the airport, and airports that fly on all the rest of you. Okay, and to all corporate jet owners in the morning to you everybody. This is the no agenda show We'd like to say a special warm welcome to all of our human resources in the no agenda chat room no agenda stream calm no dinner chat net Charged up ready to go just the way the government needs them to suck the lifeblood out of them We are here to give you your bi-weekly entertainment injection as we

01:19 Traverse down the tree of news As it were so let's start with the fact that you happen to be on this show We have to deal with the fact that you're stone. I'm drugged. I'm totally drugged so I threw my back out yesterday And it was it was one of those weird things where I had to I do these interviews for the for the big app show I do with authors Yeah, I don't have Kevin the blade anymore as the intern so I'm doing everything myself I'm running around and I need a bar stool for the studio to sit on during this particular segment And I'm stressed already and I'm not there and I pick up the stool and also to click you know it's like Mickey says like a rotated hip disc or whatever it is and It's very painful

02:06 And muscle spasm. Of course it's a now it's spasming to counteract whatever and so she tried you know massaging and you know she's got that machine. It's funny how the machine always winds up you know oh I'm sorry I slipped in your butt. It's like that's the big joke right? Massaging your back and oh I'm sorry I didn't mean to put it there. Like hey hey hey hey. And then she says well you know she has a leg difference. so She has a she often is in some form of pain and is under continuous care of a chiropractor Which I'll be seeing tomorrow. She said there once you try one of my muscle relaxers By prescription, I'm sorry you sure yeah, I took one during the day once it was okay, and so I before we started the show I read this to John it's a caris so pro doll and it literally says here that

03:07 Soma the trade name Soma Soma yeah for those you have never read a brave new world by Aldous Huxley That is the drug that keeps all the slaves complacent Yeah, well apparently this stuff is not a true muscle relaxant. What is it? It's groovy is what it is baby. It's good stuff. But it does offer a relief of acute painful musculoskeletal conditions. In other words, it kind of does the trick. It's a Valium is often used as a muscle relaxant for the same reason. Is this like Valium?

03:43 Yeah, a little bit only is probably more addictive and it's apparently people get strung out on it. Yeah You can buy it on the street from one to ten dollars a pill and it's a really well You know now that this is like five pills left in the box. That's 50 bucks. I'll need it now that Amazon has canceled my affiliate program in California. Yeah, this is I'm very upset about this You know this must have been bringing in 15-20 bucks a month. Please, this is a this supplements the no agenda income. I sell apps through Amazon. I sell books through Amazon. Yeah and for those of you who don't know this is it's kind of shaking up the affiliate world due to a law passed and signed into law last night by douchebag Jerry Brown

04:39 Amazon has done what they've done in several other states including I believe Illinois I think North Dakota. Yes, they have no choice Yeah, well, so here's what I wanted to ask you about that. Well, let me just finish the what's happening here. So they say look What this law is intended to do is to make us charge sales tax across state lines and we believe it's unconstitutional so like these other states where this has happened unfortunately we have to cancel all affiliate contracts and the way I understand that is that you are an advertiser for Amazon and that there's some huge lobby from like Home Depot and Walmart in particular

05:24 I If you have advertising and sales representatives in a state, that is the same as having a store in the state. Therefore, you need to pay... Well, it's actually not the advertising so much, it's the so-called presence. Presence, right. The way the law is written is that if you are... This started with mail order. This has been going on since the early days of mail order in the 20s or even before then. and yeah it was they were all everybody was complaining local merchants were always complaining about mail order guys that would mail and stuff into the area where people they were hope would hope would come to their store

06:08 So there was a compromise made some, I don't know, decades ago which said that well we won't tax you unless you have a presence in that state and the presence means you would have a store like Sears for example, Sears catalogs and then they had all these Sears stores all over the place and you'd have to pay if you bought from the catalog by mail you'd have to pay taxes to your state because you had a presence. So they couldn't find a presence because there's no Amazon stores around here. And then some wise guy, I think it was in Virginia or someplace else, some some governor said, hey wait a minute what about these affiliates doesn't that count? They're stores. Well I think it goes beyond that I mean as I've been reading into this there's a huge you know multi-million dollar lobby that's been going on to make this happen. Now of course it's really it's Amazon that canceled my contract and contracts of any affiliate anywhere in the state in the great state of California

07:06 So I really should be mad at them, but they're pulling the constitutional card and that's what I wanted to ask you. They're saying they believe that this move is unconstitutional. I think it is. It's taxation without representation. The idea is, for one thing, it's not a federal tax. So it's really not a federal thing. You can't tax somebody that's not in your state. for doing business in your state when they're not really doing business in your state. I mean the only argument that you could maybe make in a long shot is that well look the book is coming in through UPS and UPS is a representative delivery mechanism for Amazon and they but UPS pays their taxes. I pay my taxes over over the the proceeds from my affiliate sales on the books as well I pay taxes on that. Yeah and you pay taxes for whatever money is made

07:55 They just want to get the idea is everybody's so hard up to keep all these overpaid government workers with those high salaries and big you know benefits when they retire that they're scrounging around for any way they can tax it and this has been going on for like I said for decades before the internet. They've been trying to screw over these mail-order companies and yeah there was a few there may be there's some business lost Walmart loses some business but Walmart has been screwing over local vendors anyway so maybe that shoe should be on the other foot here for those guys there are a bunch of sleazeballs. So this is the first time that I can remember in my life

08:33 Where I mean the rug was literally pulled out from under me I mean I've been building this big app show for a year and a half and of course the link share is Part of the iTunes affiliate program. I'm sure that that'll that'll have they'll have to do something similar or we'll have to come up with some kind of taxation scheme or whatever it is and I've been building this and this big book show has been a real big push for me for the past four or five months. And literally it's like from one day to the next, that's it. No more money to be made. And there's no other way to make money on a show that promotes books through Amazon.com.

09:17 And I literally sat down with Ms. Mickey last night and I said, I think we have to move. Just out of protest even. It's $1500 a month that I make on this stuff. I sell books. That's a lot. Yeah, but I've been working hard on it. I'm trying to supplement the income. I think it is a lot. It is a lot. I've been in that program and if I make 10 bucks a month it's a miracle. Yeah, but if you really really work at it... You're right. I suppose you could probably even double that. Well I was on track to do quite well this year and now it's like gone. Now of course I guess I could incorporate in another state, I guess.

09:58 But out of principle and we were just talking about it and Miki I have to say she said she actually brought it up said well let's move on to this crap state like really? She said yeah where's a good deal? So we you know we went to the webs And, uh, well we did what everyone does. Guess what state is nearby that has, uh, no, uh, income tax, personal income tax, no corporate tax. I don't know, like Nevada maybe? Nevada, yeah. Nevada. And they have hookers. Hell, dude, you're talking my line. This, by the way, that was exactly what I told her. And they have hookers! She said, could it be any better?

10:45 So we're seriously considering. Well actually now, not to encourage you to move, but you know it's not that far a drive from Los Angeles to Las Vegas. No, she could still do her audition. You can hop on a plane, it's 45 minutes. There's a lot of people that live in Vegas even though you become kind of a Vegas guy. Wait a minute, what I'm Wayne Newton all of a sudden? I'm a Vegas guy. But you know what? But the property prices over there are incredibly depressed. You have no idea. We were looking at what we pay here in rent. A mansion in Vegas. I swear to God. It's like, what? Mickey's like, what? We can live in that for the same amount of money? I said, yeah. Less even.

11:31 Yeah. Like wow. And you know, because we're renting here. I can't buy nor would I buy. If you had a place in Vegas and he didn't mind being in Vegas, I mean, you could be entertain yourself there. Hello, hookers, hello, what's your problem? There's a lot of shows, there's good restaurants. There's shows, there's restaurants, and everyone from LA comes through eventually. Yeah, everybody's in and out of the place. We'd be party central. People would be like, hey, I'm coming to Vegas this weekend, can I use your spare? Because we could actually have a spare bedroom. Yeah, and since you're not dependent on working in Vegas, you don't have to deal with the local economy, it was probably not a bad idea.

12:11 Well, we're serious. We're gonna do our Hot Pockets 2008 tour first, of course, but we're seriously consider... I mean the alternative is Texas. Another great place. Another great place, but obviously my daughter is here and you know it's kind of nice to know that if she needs me or whatever, you know, I can drive a couple hours, I could hop on a plane and be here or she could come to us or whatever. And as a long walk and I and I think with the with the pending global cooling It'll actually be pretty pretty darn nice out there in in the desert and how about Utilities they've got that Hoover Dam. There is electricity cheap Everything is free. Yeah I'm telling you we are seriously considering this and and it's funny is it's come Mickey and by the way Mickey has been listening to the

13:06 to the no agenda stream which of course we went all talk no commercials no agenda and she's like you know I've been listening to this stuff she's you know it's still kind of weird and which she's right because we don't have scheduled shows yet we don't have enough shows to do scheduled shows she said but you know the the overarching thing I hear on the stream and she's it's just lovely that she's doing she she really never listened to the music stuff because it's not her her thing she's into You know that kind of trance yeah, and whatever chill chillax and whatever whatever they call. Yeah, yeah advertising Yeah, she says it's really nice, but the overarching message is Government stay out of our business. I'm like you and I said you're gonna you are gonna pass your citizen test with flying colors you

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15:15 Hope you enjoyed our first episode Genius I tell ya Genius Genius doing that I'm all for it genius genius It's that kind of stuff that gets me up in the morning. Oh, yeah, I just love it So, just to get into a couple things, of course, President George W. Obama held what seemed like an impromptu press conference yesterday. Of course, this is one of these press conferences that John and I loathe because everyone's, you know, there's a list of journalists, big air quotes, who are asking scripted questions, purely scripted questions.

16:01 And actually, so I pulled a couple clips just because it seems like someone in the administration went, okay, what do we have to answer to? The president's got to get tough. He's got to get tough on all this, on these criticasters. And it sounds like they pulled the last 10 no agenda shows and went through them and said, all right, we're going to hit every single point these douchebags are ragging on us for. Every single one. And what killed me is, well there's a couple things actually. They brought in an MKUltra slave to ask a question. And her name is... hold on... her name is Juliana Goldman. And the president even said, oh Juliana, you know, because he's handing off to him. Juliana Goldman, born in Bethesda, Maryland,

17:01 She's the daughter of Barbara Goldberg Goldman and Michael Goldman, who is partner at Silverberg, Goldman & Bycoff, a huge Washington law firm, i.e. lobbying firm. She's also one of the Obama Originals. Do you remember what those were? The Obama Originals? No, these were the the the press corps that were covering Obama in 2008 on his election run and they were all featured in the HBO remember that horrible HBO so-called documentary So she's she's an insider. She's a total shill now now they doped her up and

17:41 They turned on the chip and listen to this, John I want you to tell me if this is a question or if this is a setup to just let him throw out whatever he wanted to say on these particular topics. This blew me away actually. Are you concerned that the current debate over debt and deficits is preventing you from taking the kind of decisive and more balanced action needed to create jobs in this country, which is the number one concern for Americans. And also, one of the impediments to job growth that the business community repeatedly cites is the regulatory environment.

18:17 So do you think that the NLRB complaint against Boeing, that that has created some of the, is an example of the kinds of regulations that chill job growth and also that you yourself have called just plain dumb? Is that a setup or is that a setup? Well I had a, unfortunately I lost some of my clips because of a failure, but I had a clip that was interesting from the press conference where he starts off When he starts off the press conference, the first thing he does is he looks down on a sheet of paper and says, let me go over my list of people I'm going to call on. Yeah, yeah. And then he calls on a guy from the Associated Press. And I don't have this clip, unfortunately. Wait, fortunately.

18:59 I don't have this clip but I did time it out and went like the fight let me just so he calls on Associated Press guy the guy reads a question and then Obama goes six minutes and 55 seconds yeah into the answer answering this question with a speech yeah oh yeah oh yeah there was a couple of those One thing really, really struck me as he's trying to put the corporate jet owner meme into everybody's head. A little medley for you. Tax breaks for oil companies and hedge fund managers and corporate jet owners. It would be nice if we could keep every tax break there is.

19:42 But we've got to make some tough choices here if we want to reduce our deficit. And if we choose to keep those tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires, if we choose to keep a tax break for corporate jet owners, I think it's only fair to ask an oil company or a corporate jet owner for the Republicans to stand there and say that the tax break for corporate jets is... You'll still be able to ride on your corporate jet, you're just going to have to pay for it. Corporate jet owner continues to get a tax break. So that's six times He's talking about a corporate jet owner now. Let me just say something because words do matter a corporate jet owner is the corporation that owns the jet

20:28 Okay, it's not a private thing. A corporate jet owner. That is the corporation that owns the jet. John, guess what? You, me, and every other American taxpayer is a corporate jet owner. Unfortunately, the only douchebag in the jet is Obama. That's my jet, that 747. Two of them, and one of them his wife flies around. And he uses it to go on vacation. He flew that thing over 30 times since January. And a lot of it to fundraisers. That irked me. It's like I am your corporate jet owner. Excuse me, I own that jet. And that's okay, you can use it for important business.

21:13 But this corporate jet owner, it's like... I think he really jumped the shark in this press conference. It was pretty glib. Well, he got angry... He mocked some guy. Let me see, where's the... This really... Hold on a second, this was really funny. Where did I put it? Oh, this is towards the end. Of course, this didn't air on the news, you know, it was one of the last questions. This is about Congress taking vacation or whatever. And here's what he did. You need to be here. I've been here. I've been here. I've been doing Afghanistan. I've been doing Afghanistan. Bin Laden. I did Bin Laden. The Greek crisis. I did the Greek crisis. What is that?

22:06 I did, I did Bin Laden. What did he say? He said I've been here, I did Afghanistan, I did Bin Laden, I did the debt crisis, the Greek crisis. You need to be here. I've been here. I've been doing Afghanistan and Bin Laden and the Greek crisis and... Please! He's been doing that. He's been golfing! I've been doing that. That's weird. That's really, really, really weird. I've been doing that. So, now the lies really got to me. So we had the second guy, maybe it was the third guy, he says, hey you said it was going to take days not weeks for this Libya thing. The second guy was the NBC guy who he mocked. Chuck, yeah, Chuck, Chuck, yeah, I got that too. This is the third guy. Let me just take you back to March 21st of 2011. It is US policy that Gaddafi needs to go.

23:12 But let me emphasize that we anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not a matter of weeks. So, a guy gets up, scripted question, says, you said it would take a matter of days not weeks. Here we are, day 100. What's up with that? Well, first of all, Jim, just a slight correction. What I told the American people was that the initial phase... He did not say that! He did not say that! He did not say that! But it gets worse. Where Americans were in the lead would take days. It's just bullcrap! Play the clip again. Play the original clip again. It is US policy that Gaddafi needs to go. But let me emphasize that we

24:00 anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not a matter of weeks. Now, let's listen to this again because it gets worse. First of all, Jim, just a slight correction. What I told the American people was that the initial phase where Americans were in the lead would take days. No he didn't. No, it's a blatant lie. Blatant lie. It gets worse. Perhaps weeks. And that's it. Perhaps weeks? He never said perhaps weeks. He didn't say perhaps weeks. He said not weeks, not N.O.T. This is the problem with the mainstream media. They will not call these guys out by playing their own clips back to them. Gets worse. Where Americans were in the lead would take days.

24:42 if perhaps weeks. And that's exactly what happened. Right? I mean, after around two weeks, a little less than two weeks, we had transitioned where NATO had taken full control of the operation. So promise made, promise kept. Wow! Promise made, promise kept. Really? I mean, am I deaf? He literally said days not weeks to get Qaddafi out to transition. Not perhaps, not promise made, promise kept. A little more to this clip. Second, I think when you have the former Republican nominee for president, John McCain, and the former nominee for president on the Democratic side, John Kerry, coming together

25:40 to support what we're doing in Libya. That should tell the American people that this is important. Now, this is the one that really bothered me and I really went deep into what McCain and Kerry are doing. Now we've learned from it started for us I think with the confessions of an economic hitman by John Perkins how this actually works It used to be you'd send the CIA in the CIA would cause a ruckus. They'd finance some rebels And they'd start some kind of revolution and then you know usually with violence they'd or in big protests They'd overthrow the government and then then the u.s. Puts their own puppet in so that has now been replaced by social media and

26:24 And so I started looking at this and I come across a very interesting hearing. And this does not relate to Libya because they got to catch up. They're still in Egypt, right? Now remember on the last show I told you that John McCain was in Egypt with Imel from GE, with Coca-Cola, with Bechtel, with you know all of these, all the douchebags who are now going to take advantage of our new puppet who will be ElBaradei, predicted on the show. They're all in Egypt and they're walking around and I find a little clip.

27:02 of them. Here we go. This is from I believe Euronews. Just important work that they're doing there in Egypt. Former US presidential candidates John McCain. By the way this is the meme right? Oh they're important guys because they were former presidential candidates not just some some schlubs. John Kerry visit the Egyptian stock exchange. The senators, on a two-day visit to Egypt, were accompanied by senior American business leaders. They were greeted by Egyptian Stock Exchange head, Mohamed Abdesalam. Republican McCain and Democrat Kerry were invited to ring the opening bell.

27:45 both expressed their belief in a democratic and free Egypt. It is in the United States national security interest to see a prosperous, growing, democratic and free Egypt. We are both extraordinarily committed to what is happening here in Egypt. We have great respect and admiration for the changes that you are fighting for. The group arrived in Cairo on Saturday, where they made a visit to the iconic Tahrir Square. They also met with Egypt's interim Prime Minister, Essam Sharaf, and Finance Minister, Samir Radwan.

28:24 The pair are expected to announce the results of their talks with Egypt's top leaders at a news conference. So let me just give you the rundown here. So they have, and this is something I found, they're pushing a bill, it's on the Senate floor now, it's S618, Senate Bill 618, introduced by McCain, by Kerry and by Lieberman, of course. and it's the Egyptian American Enterprise Fund that they're setting up. And so the text of this bill, which you can find the show notes at 317.nashownotes.com. Here it is, the pertinent paragraph, the Egyptian American Enterprise Fund will provide monies to finance and technically support small and medium-sized Egyptian businesses.

29:11 And the bill states that according to the Egyptian government such businesses are responsible for nearly 75% of private sector employment in Egypt now while the bill does not offer exact dollar figures for the Enterprise Fund it cites which means that's kind of like the lead-up to it a 1.2 billion dollar Kitty used to foster economic growth in the former Soviet Union and its satellite states after the Cold War. So essentially these guys are taking at least a billion dollars and are going to give it to the exact companies who accompanied them on this trip.

29:49 Set up their businesses in Egypt while here were starving and got no jobs Not to mention the potholes in the road. That's a funny people keep bringing that up now So I look a little further New York Times article. Let me see if I can find the date for you. This is April 15th A number of groups and individuals directly involved in the revolts and reforms sweeping the region, including the April 6 Youth Movement in Egypt, the Bahrain Center for Human Rights and grassroots activists like Enstar Khadi, a youth leader in Yemen, received training and financing from groups like the International Republican Institute.

30:36 Okay, so what this says is that these uprisings, as we've already discussed on the show, were financed with training and all kinds of important, you know, techno experts by American groups such as the International Republican Institute. Let's go to the International Republican Institute. Who's on the board of directors, do you say? Usual suspects. U.S. Senator John McCain is the chairman of the board. The chairman! Yeah, this guy's a douchebag. Let me just get my... There we go. Um, now...

31:15 It's fairly certain, and we discussed this on the show, that the president will be Mohammed ElBaradei. This is the guy who's on the Crisis board. Yeah, we spotted him probably two months ago. Right. He's on the... let me just see... so they haven't done elections yet. The International Crisis Group, a Soros-funded outfit. So, you know, the guy's been a shill from day one. But then I start looking at this, remember the Google guy, Wal Gonen? Yeah, the kid that showed up out of the blue and is credited by many circles as being responsible for the revolution. He is the Thomas Jefferson of the movement, I guess. I don't know. Well, guess what he did?

32:01 He actually created ElBaradei's official campaign website. Oh. Good catch. You're winning. So I'm like, you know, so I just, it's just so everyone knows the jackals are... Why don't we just make this a comedy show? It is a comedy show. What are you talking about? It's a complete comedy show. So of course, so Egypt, set, done, match, we're good. Meanwhile, let's talk about corporate jets. Yeah, corporate jet owners. Not just corporate jets, corporate jet owners. By the way, that distraction of the week, the corporate jet thing was actually I thought was well done because it got, I'm driving over to San Francisco, I turn on the radio, I'm flipping through, I listen to talk radio and I get the Rush Limbaugh show. He spends the whole show, because of course Rush is, you know, has 400 million bucks in the bank and a jet.

32:55 Spends the whole show moaning about this but but no one says the exact meaning of corporate jet owner is the Corporation yeah, no that's fine, but just the fact is that this is a still a me right now It's the of course Egypt action going on. That's why he said it six times now So we're moving on from Egypt So there's a Senate Foreign Relations Committee meeting on C-SPAN, hours of it. They bring in... I watched that one. Yeah, so I'm sure you saw the the shill from the State Department, the lawyer, who is just amazing, this lawyer talk. But then Webb and Kerry get into this whole lawyering talk about Libya. So this is about extending

33:45 The stay or our assault on Libya by a year and stealing the money from Libya to pay for it. Listen to this. I love this. There's actually a bill, there's an amendment to the bill that was brought up by, I think it was Lugar, and he, you know, the idea was that we're gonna do this for a year but then we're gonna give them a bill. No, we're taking the money that we took from them, that we stole, we're gonna use that money. Senator Lugar points out it's The purpose of this amendment is to provide some clarifications to the original amendment that Senator Lugar offered, and I appreciate him offering it.

34:31 It basically states that no funds should be obligated or expended for deploying units or members of the armed forces on the ground. So this is very interesting. So this is about how they're going to get boots on the ground. Boots on the ground will happen and you're hearing the legalese being twisted right here to make it happen. In Libya, for the purposes of engaging in ground combat, or supporting stabilization or international peacekeeping operations following the removal of the Qadhafi regime. There's been a lot of discussion back and forth as to what it really means when we say no boots on the ground, a house

35:11 as many here know voted with 405 votes to prohibit boots on the ground but the question and that has not really been answered is what happens after Qaddafi falls what do we do? To answer Senator Boxer's question this is not intended to address the issue of funding at all. The language which was perfected by legislative council... Perfected? Perfected, oh yeah. legislative council means lawyers members for the purposes of supporting destabilization operations not the differences members and not members not funds uh... what this amendment also does is to say that uh... there shouldn't be uh... contracts for private security contractors to do those sorts of things

36:00 It lists two important exceptions. One is for the immediate personal defense of United States government officials, including diplomatic representatives, or for rescuing members of NATO forces. and then it in an attempt to separate what we're doing now from what's going to happen after the Qaddafi regime inevitably does leave it says that if the president determines and certifies to the congress that action is necessary then he can come to the congress and ask for legislation to be enacted specifically authorizing any further operations. Isn't that unbelievable?

36:39 I don't know that we should be surprised by this. I mean, first they froze all those assets, which means, you know, somebody's got access to them. I mean, on the other hand, you can make the argument, well, it's not going to cost us anything to do any of this. Well, that's the whole point. That's the whole point. You're right. So it gives you the rationale. So the public, because we're not, we don't have a draft or anything that's going to upset anyone. So the public says, well if it's not costing anything I guess it's okay. Yeah but we steal their money, then we shoot million dollar hellfire missiles on them and then we pay for it with that money. It's perfect. Raytheon, all these guys like, hey add this 33 billion. We need more. More bombs everybody. More bombs. And then, oh my god.

37:23 In the press conference, the president pulls out the rape card like no one else's business, which we know has been proven by the United Nations Human Rights Committee went to Libya said there is no conclusive evidence they only found one woman who had already been portrayed all over the media as having bruises We had this shill showing fuzzed out video of women getting raped with broomsticks but oh you know we don't know who they are. They speak Libyan though so it's probably Libyan forces. Oh they're using Viagra. Oh I just want to point out I know something you know. You know you know the International Criminal Court

38:05 which we don't recognize, identified Gaddafi as having violated international law, having committed war crimes. What we've seen is reports of troops engaging in horrible acts, including potentially using rape as a weapon of war. And so when you have somebody like that in charge of large numbers of troops, I think it'd be hard for us to feel confident that the Libyan people are going to be protected unless he steps down. That's right, because he's making all of their penises hard and that's very dangerous. They're all walking around with boners and that's war, I tell you. Boner war! Now to wrap up my rant, Lucifer is in Jamaica at the Four Seasons Hotel. Why?

39:03 Are we gonna attack them? Just get into Ganjiman. No, what are you talking about? We are that was already taken care of don't you remember where we took over all of Jamaica? We had that baby doc and all that stuff. It wasn't not valier Whatever that's Haiti. I'm sorry. What was it? What was the it was the gangster and they cracked down on everybody play that clip? Oh Listen to what she, now you want to talk Bush administration? Here we go. I say with all respect that the Congress is certainly free to raise any questions or objections and I'm sure I will hear that tomorrow when I testify.

39:46 but the bottom line is whose side are you on? Are you on Gaddafi's side or are you on the side of the aspirations of the Libyan people and the international coalition that has been... You're right, George Bush. It's exactly George Bush. It's a classic. Beautiful, that's a great clip. You're either with us or you're for the terrorists. So I just want to add one more thing to this since you've got this little thing going. Rant. So I'm looking at clips, so I'm going back over time looking at clips, I'm starting to notice a kind of an interesting pattern which are clips about Afghanistan because we got, it's not just one or two people coming out and saying oh we got to stay in Afghanistan, oh we got to do this, we got to stay, everything short of stay the course which does crop up once in a while which is a bushism.

40:34 and as person after person after person wants to stay in Afghanistan we're gonna have to stay in Afghanistan and of course we're you know the kills could bin Laden and everyone thinks we're gonna get out. No we did bin Laden. So I'm glad you put it on the front page of the New York Times two days in a row. The first one was the teaser. It's a story at the above the fold at the top. Gunmen storm a luxury hotel in Afghanistan. Four insurgents killed blah blah blah and it's a long story about this happening and then today this morning Attack at ho- it's again above the fold front page New York Times attack at hotel deflates hopes in Afghanistan. Oh, of course, so we can we do it. We can't even bring home the 5,000 troops we talked about. Deflates. Yeah. There too for some unknown reason while the boy the boy our country goes to pot.

41:28 Now we're going to thank a couple of producers in just a second, but let me give you an idea why it's important that programs like this are financed only by the listeners who care about getting real news. This is from MSNBC this morning. The Morning Joe Show with What's her name? Mica, Milica, Soros, no Brzezinski's daughter. All right, Brzezinski's daughter. Brzezinski's daughter. So they have, now of course MSNBC is the ministry of truth. There's no doubt about it. They take complete talking points. I think they're still owned by GE. So they need to be very careful when criticizing the president.

42:18 So they have the editor of Time Magazine, another fine mouthpiece for the Ministry of Truth, they have him on and something goes horribly wrong. Two-part clip. First listen to what happened and then how they try and scrub it out. This is base, push back against the Republicans. I guess the question is, because we all know what deal has to be done, is this sort of showmanship? You know a lot of times you go out there and... Both sides. And they act tough so their base will be appeased, and then they quietly work their deal behind the scenes. So the guy says, are we on the 7 second delay? And they say, sure we got a 7 second delay.

43:25 and you sure that yeah and I said it was a dick right which by the way something I would say on this show something you would say on the show we don't have a problem saying it so they did so they come back after the commercial after the many phone calls And they blame the whole thing. It was a joke, I didn't mean it. The director pressed the wrong button. It was supposed to be on the seven second delay. Listen to this. This is it. Well apparently there's this other button over here. Alex is the director. They keep cutting to the control room and the director's looking like, oh I'm sorry. How to do the job before you get the job.

44:03 Oh, God. This is not a pro forma apology, it's an absolute apology. Heartfelt to the president and to the viewers. I became part of the joke, but that's no excuse. I made a mistake and I'm sorry and I shouldn't have said it. As I said, I apologize to the president and to the viewers who heard me say that. And we apologize that we didn't have that old Ford doing it. So we'll get you next time. Thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah, but never trust Alex Corson. He always splits the arms. Let's read papers now.

44:49 We're gonna have a meeting after the show. So it's unbelievable. Holy crap. He says, it was the director, never trust the director. Alex pressed the wrong button. I'm so sorry. I apologize. It was just part of the joke. I got sucked in. I shouldn't have said it. Wow. Who called? Who called? Somebody big called. Yeah. It's like, you don't talk that way about your leader. Mean what and of course on the the repeat of the show all that was edited out of course good catch you win That's two points for you I caught something on for which I was gonna mention it before the our break when we do we thank our donors Which is on Hannity they had Opie of or Anthony of opium Anthony some little Political talk show was zoo style that's on the radio and the guy comes out and says well when we I

45:47 Yeah, there you go and so he comes out and says you know when you do this kind of show you always have to be careful that you don't you want to take it to a certain level but you don't want to go so far that you get fired. Yeah, exactly. Didn't want to get fired. It's just unbelievable. Yeah, well that's the thing that we don't worry about because no one's gonna fire who's gonna fire I'm gonna fire myself. We own the show. John you're fired. Thank you. Hey, John, I'm hammered from this Soma stuff. Yeah, you're on a roll, but at least you're not slurring. Who supported the show? I suspected. I'm feeling really good. I'm feeling no pain. Dame Francine Hardaway, Phoenix, Arizona, helped us out with 366. We want to thank her profusely. Justin Seitz.

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52:56 Oh yeah so I actually say anything I said something to the trust probably indicated to me that any woman would know anything about tires that's what I said maybe that is sexist like you know what can I say so it's kind of cool is Wow a just on yourself that self-hate all that dumb self radicalization right there yeah there you go there you have it so she's I have to ask you after the show about these about these measurements I'm not quite sure I'm dumb I'm a tire chick I don't understand what to do but you can order them online and have them delivered and I don't know I got a tire rack yeah yeah exactly website but I got to ask you a couple questions

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54:38 Shut up, please. And people should go to Dvorak.org slash NA and NoAgenaNation.com and Dvorak.org slash NA I'm tripping on the Soma. A bit. Yeah. All right. Wow, but what a week, John. What a week. A couple things happened. I think you can cross off in the little red book that we accurately predicted Christine Lagarde would become the director of the IMF. Little known fact that at the same time, an ex-Lehman dude became the treasurer of the World Bank. This is also, I'm sorry, a woman, Ms. Antonchik, Antonchik, Antonchik.

55:31 who worked for Barclays Capital before joining Lehman Brothers in 99 is now running the treasury of the World Bank. And by the way, this Lagarde thing, interestingly enough, is kind of being seen as a win for women. Did you, I mean have you noticed that? It's like, oh it's... No, I thought that was the, I think that was the point when we deconstructed it that they first they got to keep a French person in and and because they had to do something to assuage all these small countries that want to run the thing like that's never gonna happen. Yeah right. But they had to assuage them so they put a woman it was just perfect because now you say well look we did this. Well two things... How can you complain about it? Two things, first it's debatable if she's a woman

56:14 And the second is, of course, she worked at the Chicago, Illinois headquarters of a very influential law firm for 25 years. She is a part of the Chicago cabal, the gangsters, where President George W. Obama comes from. It's very, very annoying. But okay. And the first thing she does is she says, Greece? Greece? You better accept it. And of course Greece accepted the austerity measures and there's blood in the streets. I mean it's nuts. By the way I think there's a general strike of government workers in Gitmo Nation East today. A big strike. But how come this isn't reported anywhere? Why would you bother? It's on the noagendanewsnetwork.com. That's where I got it from. Robert Leather put that in.

57:10 And I did some work, John, a little medley. It's really amazing to me how much stuff... Is not reported? Is not reported and they just want to keep, everything's fine, you know, oh yeah, look at those potholes. Well again, it's you don't want to show white people rioting. This is not good. It's okay to show some brown people in the sand with an AK-47 with a towel on their head. Guys with towels on their heads. We don't have any of them here. That won't happen. But you can't show the white people doing it. And it's a... Be careful of those Brits. They will get pissed off enough eventually. Yeah, they've done it before. I got a meme that actually started when the president gave his Afghanistan fake troop drawdown address. This is the blood and treasure.

58:06 And he mentioned that in his speech, which actually ended up this medley, he said, you know, we got blood and treasure. We spent so much blood and treasure. I'm like, what is this code for? I mean, who has treasure? Pirates have treasure. Are we pirates? This is a good, you know, you know, the funny thing is I've been hearing this meme too, and I didn't spot it as a meme until you just mentioned it. But now I realize it is. So I spent the week clipping C-span, she will not believe how this is propagating. Not just their time, but their treasure. And not waste our precious blood and treasure. The loss in blood and treasure. We must make hard choices about where to spend our blood and treasure. I just don't believe that it is worth the blood and the treasure. And blood and treasure. In my mind, not only are the costs in lives and treasure. With all of the American lives,

59:01 treasure that were laid down for the lives and the treasure that were expended. A second war was launched in Iraq and we spent enormous blood and treasure. So what's up with that John? Hold on a second, how did you get those clips? Dude this is what I do. No no but you didn't listen to five hours of one guy yakking just to get it. Is there a search engine that you can look up treasure? I started Paying attention, you know, I've got the I first of all, I've turned on the right TV the one way you can zip back So I did have to edit this obviously but every single time I heard someone use blood and treasure and was used five five of the ten times in this clip in In one congressional hearing and so every single time it happened. I'd pause I'd get my recorder rewind record it every single time and

59:53 This is just this week John. So you're not using a search engine to find, so in other words they're saying it so much. Yes! I keep hearing it. I'm like, blur. Alright, so what did you discover? Well, it's very hard. It appears to be a, I found one website that, you know, where people are discussing this and so apparently the, it's been used several times throughout history. Let's see, Edward Gibbon used the phrase at least three times in the decline and fall of the Roman Empire in 1776 in his tome. But it appears to be kind of like a neocon type of thing. There's got to be code for something. Well, first of all, instead of saying, dead children and our money, that's really what it is.

1:00:54 Blood and treasure means our dead kids, dead, and our money. That's what it is. But it's not blood and treasure. It sounds like, yes, blood and treasure. And on the other hand, I think it means we're pirates. Where'd we get the treasure? So I could not deconstruct really why it's being used. But somebody, one of our listeners will have a clue to this. I mean I looked high and low and there's lots of examples of it being used in the olden days but really the only thing I can find is it's kind of a neocon type term which would make total sense because you know I believe the Democrats are neocons. Would make total sense. Well you have to remember that neocons stem from the far left. Yes.

1:01:49 So, but it's annoying to me because what you're really not saying is dead kids and our money, right? Yeah, that's what it, yeah. But why, but I mean, but, well they're not going to say dead kids and our money because... No, because that hurts. ...the blood and treasure is a good euphemism, I suppose. For these guys couldn't say blood and treasure blood and treasure. Yeah, but isn't there a better one? It doesn't sound so corny every time I've heard it. I've kind of rolled my eyes I never thought that it was a meme, but obviously it is yep, huh? Yeah, exactly Exactly so yeah that I found that to be somewhat annoying somewhat now another thing that happened is

1:02:43 this week. We got a lot of tweets and by the way I hate it when we're right about certain things, particularly these things. So the Electronic Privacy Information Center under the Freedom of Information Act obtained documents and released them. Apparently there are cells of cancer amongst TSA employees. Clusters, not cells. Cancer clusters in their ranks. I'll read the quote here. TSA employees at Logan International Airport believe they have identified a cancer cluster in their ranks according to documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act released by the Electronic Privacy Information Center. They have requested dosimetry to counter TSA's improperly non-monitored radiation threat. So far, at least, they have not received it. The documents also reveal a paper from Johns Hopkins. This is what we said time and time again, but no, here it is.

1:03:41 essentially questions whether it's even safe to stand near an operating scanner let alone inside one. The Politano and the Pistol and these other stooges... They won't go through it! ...and said, oh we got this Johns Hopkins there. Yeah, Johns Hopkins never tested the machines and we discussed that verbatim. They only said, well you know if it's only this much then it's okay but they'd never tested the machines. Yeah, no, the whole thing is a scam. So Johns Hopkins of course has a reputation to defend. They say that the Department of Homeland Security mischaracterized their work by telling USA Today that NIST affirmed the safety of the scanners when in fact NIST does not do product safety testing and never tested a scanner for safety. Really? But then this kills me. Department of Homeland Security

1:04:37 And let me see if there's a date on this. June 27th, they just received their first patent. And I didn't know that government organizations can go out and patent stuff, but okay. Guess what they just patented, John? I don't know. A citizen's dosimeter. Oh really? Yep, the Department of Homeland Security's Science and Technology Directorate has developed a miniaturized version of a dosimeter, a portable device used for measuring exposure to ionizing radiation which can provide life-saving early detection in the unlikely event of a nuclear accident or dirty bomb. Dubbed the Citizen's Dosimeter. This high-tech plastic card, pfft, really?

1:05:21 would be as convenient and affordable as a subway card with the capability to measure the amount of radiation on a person or in a given area. And by the way, TSA slaves, you're not getting it. Well, you know, the TSA people who work in there are getting a little annoyed by this themselves. Yeah, the cancer thing is a little annoying maybe. And meanwhile, of course, we moan and groan about the TSA and some of their, you know, taking a diaper off the old lady and stuff like that. But in the meantime, the underreported story headlines TSA Viper program has been expanded.

1:05:58 Really? The TSA conducted last year more than 8,000 Viper operations in the last 12 months which we talked about the Viper operation. Yeah and they're doing this at what bus stations and... No now they're now they want to expand it so they can pull you or they can stop your car out of the blue and search it without a warrant. Yeah we're Viper! 2009 the total cost to the taxpayers was 30 million dollars and now the agency's requesting funding for 12 more Viper teams, which would bring the total to 37 squads, and they use the military word squad, and a budget of 210 million dollars a year and these are just basically black-shirted SS

1:06:41 stooges that are gonna go out and they're gonna they're gonna go to bus stations they're gonna go to trains depots you know where you don't have to take off your shoes according to Obama and they're gonna start pulling cars over just randomly. What is this? It's Gitmo Nation my friend we're talking about. It's unbelievable and why is it this front page scandalous front page news this is ridiculous. Because it's all controlled media. Well, it's getting you know, this is the problem that you're running into with controlled media. They're not Stepping up to the plate when they have to they just like that what you just played that thing from MSNBC It was a it was a deplorable the guy calls the president a dick for being a dick at that being a dick Yeah, it correctly calls. It gets called out cold on the carpet. Yep. I

1:07:34 You can't do that. Are we supposed to be on our hands and knees? Are we supposed to be cow-towing? Are we going to start bowing to the president? Whatever he says is fine. We can't say anything critical. And I didn't even think that was hardly critical. I mean, what is wrong with this picture? Well, it gets even worse, if you don't mind me saying. Have you seen the cover of Time magazine? Not the latest. So what did we pick up on on the last show? We talked about Farik GPS man from CNN. Oh that guy, the guy who wants to ditch the Constitution. Time magazine cover. They have a picture of the Constitution, we the people, and the bottom of the Constitution is shredded like it's been in a shredder.

1:08:27 then it says does it still matter? There's a push, there's a I think there's an absolute push John to overturn the Constitution. No to redo it, rewrite it, revise it. And Iceland did it. Yeah that is a very good article by Aaron Worthing which is linked in the show, knowsnoagendashow.com and he actually combed through this document which the cover story is called One Document Under Siege and he says, oh by the way I counted at least 13 mistakes of their interpretation of the Constitution. Time magazine is abhorrent and I'm thinking this is it. This is what they're trying to do. War Powers Act, screw it. It's in the way of what everybody wants to do. Of King Obama.

1:09:27 King Obama and the Congress, it's like a Roman Senate that went along with everything the Caesar said to do. I mean these guys don't stand alone. The Congress, the legislative branch, which should be as powerful as the executive, it's supposed to be a balanced system. They have, they're gutless on all, both Democrats and Republicans. They, and they're, and they're very, you know, they're very deferential to the president, to the executive. They, oh, the president, you know, the president wants this, the president wants that, and we, you know, we're not as powerful, and we're kind of here on our, you know, trying to do this and this, that. And the other thing, yeah, and he wants to start a war on his own, and he's going against the Constitution, but we're not gonna do anything about it. We're not gonna impeach him, which is what they could do.

1:10:09 and they're not, you know, they don't get documents when they want them. They get big black pages that are printed, come out of the printer with just black and then they hand a bunch of those in as though that means something. It's just basically laughing, mocking the Congress. The Congress is just pathetic. I don't know. What else is new? It's a rather long clip. But do you want to, should we just listen and deconstruct Obama's answer about, because this was Chuck from NBC and Chuck was given the... Yeah. This is the 6 minute and 50 second, no the first one was 6 minute and 50, this was a little shorter. This is 5 minutes. Yeah, Chuck was told that basically he was an idiot.

1:10:46 Not only that but Chuck was given these questions. He was like, what's the constitutionality of you going into Libya under the War Powers Resolution? And I thought the president's answers were just scathingly disgusting and I think we need to discuss it. Well, that was a hodgepodge. So first of all, he asked three very important questions and that's a hodgepodge. Wait a minute, it's two constitutional questions And I forget what his third question was, but well that's a hodgepodge. No, this is important stuff, dude. Uh, the uh, Chuck, we're gonna assign you to the Supreme Court, man. Hey man, hey man, we're gonna put you in the Supreme Court, man. And by the way, wouldn't surprise me.

1:11:34 Ladies and gentlemen, all rise for Supreme Court Justice Chuck from NBC. He could do it! He could do it! Chuck's going like, yes! Nailed it! I nailed it! I got my question in and now I'm on the Supreme Court! I'm not a Supreme Court Justice so I'm not gonna put my constitutional law professor hat on here. That was weird. I'm not going to put my constitutional law professor hat on here. he according to documentation he is a constitutional law professor although all his records are sealed so I did was just take it was a teaching assistant probably yeah besides the point what why does he make that comment I agree I love let me focus on actually the issue of Libya Libya

1:12:29 I want to talk about the substance of Libya. Okay, so not going to answer the questions. Let's talk about the substance of Libya. Because there's been all kinds of noise about process. Noise! Noise! Like people arguing constitution. This is like, it's a noise. You hear that John? Yeah, he said it was noise. Noise. It's just noise. And congressional consultation and so forth. Let's talk about concretely what's happened. Moammar Gaddafi, who prior to Osama Bin Laden was responsible for more American deaths than just about anybody on the planet. Now, what is that? That's a lie! Moammar Gaddafi, prior to Osama Bin Laden, is responsible for more American deaths than anyone on the planet. That include Hitler? Yeah, I guess so. I guess no one died in World War II. That include Ho Chi Minh?

1:13:31 I mean, didn't we have some dudes die in like Vietnam and Korea and uh... I'm sorry, children die? Okay, alright, you want to categorize it that way, okay, we'll bite. Was threatening to massacre his people. Massacre. Massacre. What is the definition of massacre? This is like everyone... A kill with want and disregard for anything just to kill people left and right? I thought that they were using their penises. I'm confused now. They're going to rape them. It depends on what time of day it is. Okay. And as part of an international coalition under a UN mandate that is almost unprecedented, we went in and took out air defense systems so that an international coalition could provide a no-fly zone, could protect, provide humanitarian protection to the people on the ground.

1:14:31 I spoke to the American people about what we would do. I said there would be no troops on the ground. I said that we would not be carrying the lion's share of this operation, but as members of NATO, we would be supportive of it because it's in our national security interests and also because it's the right thing to do. We have done exactly what I said we would do. Whoa! No, we were supposed to be out in a matter of days, not weeks, but okay. We have not put any boots on the ground. We've put loafers on the ground, CIA and all those guys. That's okay. Boots, not boots, loafers. And our allies, who historically we've complained aren't willing to carry enough of the load when it comes to NATO operations, have carried a big load. In their pants! When it comes to these NATO operations. And as a consequence, we've protected thousands of people in Libya. Thousands!

1:15:33 we have not seen a single u.s. casualty there's no risks of additional escalation this operation is limited in time and in scope oh really limited and another year is what to carry and lugar and us carry and uh... mccain are asking for so i said to the american people here's our narrow mission we have carried out that no mission with in exemplary fashion And throughout this process, we consulted with Congress. We've had 10 hearings on it. We've sent reams of information about what the operations are. Reams! 36 pages. What is reams? What is the definition of reams? That's about 500 sheets. No, that's a ream?

1:16:25 Yeah, that is the actual definition a ream is 500 ream is 500 sheets. Yeah, you buy a ream of paper You buy 500 sheets, but it's reams. So it'd be five hundreds. So it must be thousands. No 36 pages We I read him not reams 36 pages. Well, maybe to him. It's a ream I've had those I've had all the members of Congress over to talk about it. Yeah, we had tea so A lot of this. Wait, hold on, he had every member of Congress? I know, I was waiting for you to catch that. No, of course he didn't. All 400 plus members? It was a crowded room. The Oval Office was packed, I tell ya. Bullcrap, half the congressmen have never talked to this guy. Of course not. I had all the members of Congress. Uh, no. Uh, fuss is politics. Fuss? It's a fuss. This whole Constitution thing is a fuss.

1:17:21 And if you look substantively at what we've done, we have done exactly what we said to do under a UN mandate and we have protected thousands of lives in the process. And as a consequence, a guy who was a state sponsor of terrorist operations against the United States of America. Who we did business with for years. Yeah, 20 years ago he was and then he gave up on the process and he was our buddy apparently until just a few months ago. is pinned down and the noose is tightening around them. Oh, really? Now we're lynching people. Why don't you just go get him? We're lynching people. This is what we do. Hey, we're gonna lynch you. The noose is tightening around ya. Now, when you look at the history of the War Powers Resolution, it came up after the Vietnam War. This is the best. Which we had half a million soldiers there, tens of thousands of lives lost, hundreds of billions of dollars spent.

1:18:21 and congress said you know what we don't want something like that happening again so if you're gonna start getting us into those kinds of commitments you've got to consult with congress before this blew me away so this is how he explains that we're in a limited because if it's not five hundred thousand troops and tens of thousands of dead then it's not really a war and therefore doesn't even can you know doesn't really even count for the war powers resolution Is that, was that how Congress figured, decided to do that? Was that what, was that really the intent? I'm, no, no, absolutely, and the idea wasn't to consult with Congress.

1:19:03 It wasn't as though you could say, hey you guys, I'm going to go do this, oh okay, whatever. Hello everybody, hello Congress, nice to have all 400 of you here. I want to consult with you. And by the way, we spent more money on the Iraq-Afghanistan thing than we ever spent in Vietnam. Oh yeah. The Pentagon just came out with the numbers. By the time we're done, if ever, $4 trillion will have been spent. Four trillion dollars. And what did we get? A guy with some, some, a fire in his crotch. What else did we get for that four trillion? Well, we got the crotch bomber, we got, uh... The New York Times, the Times Square dude. We got Bin Laden, we got Bin Laden. Yeah, we got him. And, uh, and miscellaneous guys that we shot with the drones over Pakistan. I know some guys in South Central who'll do it for 50 bucks. They'll go and get Bin Laden.

1:20:01 But now four trillion seems a little steep. Four trillion seems like a lot per head. Yeah. And I think that such consultation is entirely appropriate. Yeah, if we're going to go send half a million troops, it's appropriate to have a consultation. It's like your career advisor. I like he thinks it's appropriate to have a consultation. I think it's appropriate. We can tell him what we're up to. But do I think that uh... our actions in any way the war powers resolution the answers not so i don't have to get to the constitutional question answers no i don't have to get to the constitutional question and i have to tell you that the total isn't that crap

1:20:45 There may be a time. There may be a... What's up with that, John? What does that tell you? That he's lying. To tell. So if you're gonna start getting us into those kinds of commitments, you've got to consult with Congress beforehand. Let's do it again. Consult. Consult. Hello, let's consult. I want to hear the dab dab dab dab dab again. ...consultation is entirely appropriate. Appropriate. But do I think that our actions in any way violate the War Powers Resolution? Violate. The answer is no. No.

1:21:34 So I don't even have to get to the constitutional question. There may be a time in which there was a serious question as to whether or not the War Powers Resolution Act was constitutional. I don't have to get to the question. We have engaged in a limited operation to help a lot of people against one of the worst tyrants in the world. Somebody who nobody should want to defend and we should be sending out a unified message To this guy that he should step down and give us people a fair chance to live their lives without fear of a drone and then this suddenly becomes the the cause celebre the cause the lip the cause the lab is what he said what is the cause to live John I

1:22:30 It means that everybody's up in arms about the situation and he can't understand why because it makes no sense to him. Isn't the cause celeb? Isn't that like Charlie Sheen? He was for a while. Yeah, that's a cause celeb. I saw... I'm sorry. Go on. Well, I was gonna say I saw a movie the other night which I was very surprised. It's from 2010. It's called The Green Zone. featuring I tried watching that movie two or three times and I could not stand it well it's very interesting because it is actually a complete I believe truthful portrayal of what happened in Iraq is a mess starring Matt Damon and it took a little while but then I got into it and essentially what it is is he is trying he finds out that this Ben Ben Rawi

1:23:22 I think his name is, who was one of Saddam's Republican National Guard. He went to Jordan. He told the Greg Kinnear character in this, who I'm not quite sure is supposed to be in real life, that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. And then the Greg Kinnear character goes ahead and tells the State Department there's weapons of mass destruction and he leaks this report to the Wall Street Journal. And this is exactly what happened. And then Matt Damon's like, oh my God, we're in Iraq because of this lie. You know, you have to come in and you have to tell everybody this is a big lie and of course the moral of it is the Ben Rawe character says, no, no, man, you don't understand. It's like your government wanted this lie. So it's not like you were tricked and we're all here because of a lie. But anyway, the movie is one thing. It's based on a book.

1:24:21 And this is Attention No Agenda Book Club. It's based on the book by actually Washington Post editor Rajiv Chandrasekharan. I'm butchering that. The book is called Imperial Life in the Emerald City Inside Iraq's Green Zone. And this is of course what now has become the new city, I'm sorry, embassy in uh...

1:25:00 you know, or Reseda, some place where you just like a bunch of ranch houses and that have been recently built. It's a city within a city. You have to read this book. I blew through it in like a couple hours. I loved it. this guy was actually there. It talks about how, you know, Halliburton was flying everything in, you know, they had, it was a complete Americanized city, people are hanging out by the pool, they're having sex all day, no one ever really left the green zone, they, you know, they forced the people who were running the cafeteria

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1:41:24 On the 30th of June my birthday coincides with NA show day. Please play the birthday jingle as well as the karma one That's not just for me, but rather a gift for myself to all the peeps out there who still work towards a free world You've got karma Thank you all very much very very much, so I'm distracted by this browser crashing something weird happened in Gitmo nation East and Let me see if... yeah, I want to get the exact... here it is. This is very weird. It's like really under-reported. They're saying there was a mild tsunami that swept along the southwest coast of England. And the reporting is... they have a video of it and you see

1:42:21 Well, let me read the report first. A mild tsunami along the south coast was probably caused by an underwater landslide, according to a coastal expert. It created an unusual tide surge that struck the Cornwall, Devon, Dorset and Hampshire coastline Monday morning. There were reports of rivers changing direction, fish leaping out of the water, and even hair standing on end because of static. Tsunami? No. Harp? Yes. And they have this video of a river flowing in... with the flow... it's... the river's flowing in one direction, this tide flows in the other direction. Have you ever heard of such an occurrence?

1:43:10 No, but I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't been documented before, whatever it is. Isn't that a biblical thing? Well, I thought the city that appeared in China was kind of more interesting. I saw that too. Hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm just getting started, okay? Tell us about the city in China that appeared. This is great. What time I think was in Shanghai or Beijing or something one of the big cities there there if you were on the bridge you a city a whole city with trees around it and buildings and skyscrapers and it went deep into the distance it kind of looked like a woodsy version of Sao Paulo

1:43:48 showed up in the middle of as a mirage that was very visible for I guess a few minutes and people there's there's videos of it and people are walking by commenting on it look at that that's thing there and then it disappeared and it's never been I mean it's never been fully explained what it was I mean a lot of it was obviously imagine your imagination of course blanks of course I'm just making it up the I'm on Soma But you know some people say it was a vortex and it was actually a city that we did something Maybe was the Stargate that you're always talking about. Uh-huh could have been something like that But then again, it's probably just a mirage, but it was a beauty and there are videos all over the internet about it Well, there's another thing that was that has been videoed all over the internet And I'm sure John you'll say that it's all fake and it's all doctored and even though it's like I when do I ever say that all the time I

1:44:45 above London in broad daylight, I'm sure you saw this, all of a sudden three apparent UFOs appeared and then a mothership and it's really clear on the video and it's like and you see all these people on the street you know pointing their cell phones and video cameras up at the sky and they're all recording this. And it's like these little ships going, and then the mothership appears and it hovers. And then it blasts off. Did you see that? Yeah. And by the way, I want to, just as a side note that really has to do with the show. If that happened, it's another short-term phenomenon similar to the Mirage. It was something that happened and then stopped happening.

1:45:32 People left and right were taking pictures, movies, because everybody's got a camera on them now all the time. So when we keep seeing these reports and we can't get any visual confirmation, we know these, you know, we're talking about news reports from the mainstream media and there's no visual confirmation, just these crazy reports. We know it's bullcrap because people are recording everything that goes on. So I don't understand what you're saying. I don't either. Thanks. It's still probably a part of Project Blue Beam. Of course the Russians... What? Yeah, well we talked about Project Blue Beam. Project Blue Beam is a psyops operation to get everyone to believe in extraterrestrials.

1:46:18 Then of course they're gonna come down and kill us and then we will have yeah, we all go Oh, it's just that I do whatever your government tells you to do interesting harp magnometer data Harp was extreme and this is right off of the government websites Coincidence or not, but the 2.5 Hertz harp waves were active for two full days before the Japan earthquake and tsunami and Like massively active check that out in the show notes at 317 dot any show notes calm. Yeah Everyone laughs at me when I talk about this stuff, but okay. Maybe I'm just crazy. I'm not laughing because I still believe that That was induced. I don't know if it was our harp or Russian harp or whoever was fiddling on the harp But it didn't seem very natural to me

1:49:29 Apparently it's changed now. Getting your flu vaccination while you're pregnant is actually now good for your baby. How does that work? Well, it's a new study. I love it. I love it when they do this stuff. Remember it was like no pregnant women? This is from parentcentral.ca which is I think the article is taken from the Toronto Star and so there's a brand new study Research polling pooling dr. Catherine pooling pediatrics professor at Wake Forest Baptist Health Center in North Carolina Along with researchers from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Vanderbilt University that's of Anderson Cooper Vanderbilt and Anderson Cooper by the way is his new name and the University of Rochester analyzed data and they said you know what it's really good and

1:50:25 to get a flu vaccine if you're pregnant and this now appears in this month's American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology and they checked data from seven flu seasons apparently they missed it the first time around when they said don't get it but I guess it's now different. Well it sells more shots if they get it. Yeah. Yeah, of course it's it. Somebody screwed up. Of course it sells more shots. Yeah. Because you know, there, there, somebody had a meeting said, look, we can give this shot. Well, it's going to maybe kill a bunch of women and maybe the babies are going to be deformed. Who knows? So that's okay. We're, we're, we're, there's no liability issues. The government has given us free, clear. Let's just shoot everybody with a shot. Who cares if they die? We don't even have to shoot. Who cares what happens? It doesn't make any difference. What happens, what happens, happens. We don't even have to shoot you up because, and here's the big breakthrough, annual flu protection.

1:51:15 could soon be as simple as downing a spoonful of yogurt. Another groundbreaking trial by Washington scientist Barry Marshall paving the way for food-based vaccines. Ha ha! So now you can just put it in your food. End of the article. Vaccines could also be put in the drinking water. I don't think I like the sinister laugh actually John it's like as if it's a Larry as every as if lithium and Fluoride is not enough now. We're just gonna and people you know what people are gonna go. Hey, that sounds like a really good idea all right

1:51:57 I think we should put more vaccines in our water. What do you think? This is loaded up with drugs. The water's already contaminated with all these drugs that they can't get out of the sewage treatment anyway. I need some vaccine in my water. I want my diabetes vaccine, I want my flu vaccine, I want my diarrhea vaccine, I want my vaccine vaccine all in my water. And now, ladies and gentlemen, our favorite person. Our favorite person, who was our favorite person John? Our favorite person is... And you can always follow me on Twitter. No, it's the Twitter guy. Rick Perry. Well, I think he's got a real good shot at winning the Republican nomination. You're gonna put that away? Hold it. You want that in the red book? Because I've got a definite no on that guy. I don't want it in the book, but I do know that he's got a lot of money behind him.

1:51:15 could soon be as simple as downing a spoonful of yogurt. Another groundbreaking trial by Washington scientist Barry Marshall paving the way for food-based vaccines. Ha ha! So now you can just put it in your food. End of the article. Vaccines could also be put in the drinking water. I don't think I like the sinister laugh actually John it's like as if it's a Larry as every as if lithium and Fluoride is not enough now. We're just gonna and people you know what people are gonna go. Hey, that sounds like a really good idea all right

1:51:57 I think we should put more vaccines in our water. What do you think? This is loaded up with drugs. The water's already contaminated with all these drugs that they can't get out of the sewage treatment anyway. I need some vaccine in my water. I want my diabetes vaccine, I want my flu vaccine, I want my diarrhea vaccine, I want my vaccine vaccine all in my water. And now, ladies and gentlemen, our favorite person. Our favorite person, who was our favorite person John? Our favorite person is... And you can always follow me on Twitter. No, it's the Twitter guy. Rick Perry. Well, I think he's got a real good shot at winning the Republican nomination. You're gonna put that away? Hold it. You want that in the red book? Because I've got a definite no on that guy. I don't want it in the book, but I do know that he's got a lot of money behind him.

1:52:52 Yeah, sure, Texas. You know why? I'm gonna put my prediction in the book that Rick Perry will not be the nominee. Okay, no, that's cool. He is actually... What was that? He actually... This is good. He is on board with Merck and he is now trying to make Gardasil vaccinations, this is the HPV vaccination, which I do not believe is helpful. Making it mandatory in Texas. Yeah, what a douchebag. It's amazing. Mofo What a douchebag so he's in bed with Merck the Merck have got a lot of money Yeah, so you know remember we do we do choose our presidents like we choose our own soap powder Well, if you want to get Obama reelected put this guy up for election then we have some to to the head news

1:53:48 And it starts off in the pharmaceutical industry. This was rather interesting. This came to us from Sir Snorri Steyn. And this is from, I believe, Norway. Here we go. Professor Emeritus Lars Heiheim. Amongst experts who were highly critical of the number of the World Health Organization assumed when they put swine flu influenza preparedness at the highest risk level Was killed during a fishing trip Yeah, the 65 year old been out fish on a fishing trip was reported missing from the family at one o'clock on Wednesday morning his the 65 year old and his boat were found at a distance from each other just south of Ria Vardin and

1:54:43 About an hour later. Yeah, so apparently he fell overboard and drowned. Yeah, it happens. Yeah, it happens when you're against vaccines. Yeah, well, it happens. Don't go fishing, by the way. Little news on Michael Jackson. Of course, Latoya has been making the rounds. Yeah, she's been telling everybody that he was murdered, there's no doubt about it. Yeah, of course, you heard that here first on the No Agenda Show. Yeah, and she decided the usual suspects is the, you know, this is like, to us, this is like, to what, three years old? How old is this story for us? Uh, yeah, it's like, has he been dead for two years now? I don't know, whatever. Two years. I think we need to cover it. Well, no, the thing we do need to cover, according to court papers obtained by Reuters,

1:55:31 Now, before Michael Jackson died, what was the reporting? What was the reporting continuously? He was in debt. He was broke. So according to court papers obtained by Reuters, the late pop icon was in $400 million of debt when he died. Since his death, sales have now resulted in a 2010 profit of $310 million. Yeah, net. 310 million dollars profit. The guy was worth more dead than he is alive. That's why they offed him. Yeah, well that's a problem. If you're gonna be worth more dead than alive, I would move someplace else. Nevada. Wait a minute, he lived in Nevada. Hmm.

1:56:19 So anyway, I thought that was rather... Well I got a couple news items. Yeah, hit me. I think we should keep up with gay news once in a while and the New York Times is the best place for that. I love me, as a bicurious male, I love me some gay news. In a softball case, a thorny debate over who qualifies as gay. The five ball players summoned before the protest committee or the yeah the protest committee at the Gay Softball World Series stood accused of cheating. Their alleged offense? Heterosexuality. Don't tell me there were some straights in the gay game? Inside a small room surrounded by committee members and other softball officials and players?

1:56:59 They were interrogated about their sexual orientation. Confusion reigned according to the court records. One player declined to say whether he was gay or straight, but acknowledged being married to a woman. Another answered yes to both gay and heterosexual definitions. A third asked if bisexual was acceptable. This is why I'm getting this. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You're telling me I'm being discriminated against? A bi-curious male can't participate in a gay game? He was told quote this is the gay world series not the bisexual world series. There's a new league Ultimately the committee ruled that three of the five were non-gay. How do you rule that? It's like, alright son we're gonna see if you're really gay. They were non-gay and stripped the team of its second place finish. No! This ladies and gentlemen is straight from the Gay News Front John C. Dvorak and your bicurious male Adam Curry bringing you the gay news. More gay news now from Lucifer Clinton.

1:57:59 And then there is the work that our embassy team in Rome has been doing. Two weeks ago, they played an instrumental role in bringing Lady Gaga to Italy for a Euro Pride concert. Now, as many of you know, Lady Gaga is Italian-American and a strong supporter of LGBT rights. And the organizers of the Euro Pride event desperately wanted her to perform and a letter to her from Ambassador Thorne was instrumental in sealing the deal. Over 1 million people attended the event which included powerful words in support of equality and justice. Fantastic! The US State Department helping Lady Gaga make more money. That's right.

1:58:44 Anyway, I wanted there's another I don't even want to get into that one. I mean really? And she's smiling. Should the Department of Commerce be doing that? No, it was the State Department. You know Gaga is being sued, class action, about those earthquake bracelets she was selling. Yeah, she sold them and then didn't do anything with the money except I guess spend it on meat dresses. Meat dresses. There's a segment of the show I'm thinking of wanting to do. Just want to experiment with it. as an idea and that is reading from my spam box. Okay ladies and gentlemen we have a brand new segment here on the show this is John C. Dvorak reading from his spam box. Urgent and confidential Mr. Carl Mensah sends a note to me or actually sends it to undisclosed recipients for some unknown reason but it's apparently to me. Hello please pardon me for not having the liberty of knowing your mindset before writing

1:59:44 Before writing you this letter without any formal introduction. My name is Carl Mensah I am the present branch manager of the International Commerce Bank of Ghana LTD and if you look him up, of course He is I write to solicit your partnership in claiming 15 million United States dollars I got this one too at our head office. I got this one too. You got the same one. Yeah Wait a minute. You're not gonna read it. This isn't stupid John. They do this on top 40 radio Let's not do this I don't like your segment. But wait a minute, how did you get the same one? Oh shut up. Alright, I'm not gonna read any more of your letter. But believe me, I could be retired from this show. I understand that you're upset that your SD card failed and you didn't have clips and stuff. But that doesn't mean you have to go groping. I have a couple old clips. Nah, I got better. I got new stuff. Alright, hit it. Alright, so this TSA thing has created obviously quite a stir.

2:00:41 Yeah, we've got the poop police now. Oh wait a minute. I have a jingle for that for the poop police detective Dookie Police SPU special poopers unit right So what does NBC do? NBC of course compromised. They do a very interesting hit piece in video. What they do is they take two experts on airline security. One is the, it may be the former security for expert for El Al, an Israeli guy who talks like, you know, like a terrorist himself.

2:01:22 Which of course is the whole point. And the other one is this very eloquent man who I think was either the deputy TSA or actually Brian Williams will tell us in the intro. And they play the two clips one after another and you come away It's a total hit piece. You come away feeling like, well, the Israeli guy is clearly nuts. The other guy is very, very smart and eloquent. And it's completely beautifully pieced together. I love those deals. Yeah, this is the equivalent of a hit piece in video. Extremely well done. What to do about it? Tonight we hear the topic debated by two experts.

2:02:04 Errol Southers, former nominee to head the TSA, and Isaac Yeffet, the former head of security for Israel's state-run airline Elal. I never said, and I will never say, that passengers, because they are coming on wheelchair, we should not search them. But when I see a woman 95 years old sitting on wheelchair, because the alarm went off, I have to be so stupid. to search her from A to Z, including forcing her to pull out her diaper? This is not security, this is a joke.

2:02:44 It should not be the first step. This should be the last step. We have seen threats where young children have been used to transport improvised explosive devices. We have seen IEDs placed on gurneys, concealed in wheelchairs. So we've seen methodologies to deliver IEDs and a whole host of items and people to get to the target. So it's not unusual to have a threat in some countries where young children and elderly people might be cause for some concern. We're dealing with a very intelligent and adaptive adversary. An adversary that, when we have a thwarted plot, it's a lesson learned for them. So the TSA has adopted a model that is trying to stay one step ahead of these threats and one step ahead of these attack paths that might be implemented. I don't see any kind of better security that we had before September 11th.

2:03:43 And we have to stop relying on God and on luck. Build a security system. Use a profiling system. Don't be afraid. Be afraid that innocent people will be killed because of us. Enough is enough. And if the alarm goes off, let me search you. If not, go. This is what I'm calling illusion. and not real security. What I can say in defense of the TSA is that these people are very hard-working, dedicated individuals, they are trained well, and when people engage them in an aggressive and combative way, there are others that might be going through the process not getting the attention that they deserve.

2:04:23 that really need to be going to secondary screening. So I would say patience on both sides of the equation, understand that these people want the same thing that you do to get to your destination, to have a good weekend and a good time and get there safely, and respect has to be given on both sides. I just thought that was a pretty amazing report. I don't know what to make of it. I mean the guy is, this guy from TSA seems so reasonable. Well he's saying that we have found children and elderly people with IEDs. Yeah but then you notice how he also mentioned that that was in other countries. Yeah, other countries. But he kind of slips that in. There's no evidence that it's ever happened in the United States.

2:05:06 Really? No. When has it ever happened? No, it hasn't happened. You don't think they wouldn't be all over it? Oh yeah, no, if it ever happened it would be like they'd up the ante even more, add more x-ray machines. All I can say is what we have to do is make sure to get copies of that article about the cancer cluster and when you go to the airport and they want you to go through that machine and you say no and then they give you a crap, hand it, although they don't all do that because we have plenty of evidence of people that... They don't give you crap, they look through your crap. Well, do we have people that have said you did the right thing too? You know, there's some smart TSA guys out there. But if they give you crap, pull out that article and say, you should read this when you get a chance. Yeah.

2:05:49 have yourself tested for cancer. So, anyway, that situation is just not improving. And nobody in Congress seems to give a crap about it. I mean, a couple people do. And we did have the testimony that was on a C-SPAN report where the guy basically came out and said that these machines don't even work. Yeah. So, great. Something for the math geeks. This just came out. I'm a little confused. Mathematicians are now campaigning For pi to be replaced with tau Experts are claiming that the number the constant which references the circumference of a circle to its diameter is wrong No, and should be replaced with an alternative value called tau

2:06:39 So pi of course 3.14159265 is, they say it's the wrong figure to be associated with the properties of a circle. It should be tau which is 6.28 approximately twice what pi is. What? Yeah I know. I don't understand it either but it seems like this is a pretty fundamental thing. Well somebody's gonna have to explain it to us what they're talking about. Right? We were talking... I don't know where you got that one. From the Daily Mail. Remember I was talking about the grid experiment? They want to slow down the cycles on the grid? Yeah. As some kind of cost-cutting measure or whatever? Which I still have not... no one's explained to me how that actually... how that would save anything. Well, but they're doing it because they've announced it. It was like an official announcement.

2:07:40 And one of our producers says, oh, you know, this is really bad and they did in Venezuela. I'm like, yeah, dude, could you please just find an article and send it to me? So it's now in the show notes from CNN from 2003, Caracas, Venezuela. This is from Reuters, but republished by CNN title. One country loses time literally in a bizarre mass malfunction. Venezuela's clocks are ticking too slow due to a power shortage weakening the electric current nationwide. By the end of the day, each day, the sluggish time pieces still have another 150 seconds to tick before they catch up at midnight. So, you know, I think we'll be okay. Most clocks are probably not necessarily dependent on that anymore. But there are a couple other things that happen when you start messing with the cycles. We use 60 cycles or 60 Hertz here in Gitmo Nation West. Apparently it screwed up some companies who had mixing engines for orange juice.

2:08:41 And because it runs at a slower cycle, it was mixing the orange juice slower and therefore they had to throw out all these batches because it was just, it was literally like, you know, the machines run slower and so it was mixing it at the wrong measure for their secret formula. It's all kinds of... What? Yeah. Don't you understand that? Where'd you get that one? From the same article. This is from the Daily Mail though, right? No, this is from CNN. From Reuters. From 2000... That's weird. From 2003. when they had the exact same problem with the cycles going down. There's something up about this. This is one of those things like the treasure and blood that is... there's something more to this story. I've already told you what it is. It's controlling you.

2:09:28 Cycles are all around you this electricity is all around us and they're gonna slow us down. Yeah, I'm telling you That's what it's down. It's to slow us down. They have 50 cycles Service in Europe and right they're slower there. Well, yeah Yeah, hello point made. I don't have to say any more than that. Do I? Nice correction we got from a number of our producers, which we highly appreciate about the Chinese aircraft manufacturer and we were talking about China possibly You know you were like I didn't I'm not aware they had the aircraft manufacturing well turns out that they at the most recent air show in Le Bourget

2:10:15 were selling the C919 Chinese passenger jet and in fact a couple of airlines in the US have said you know what if they can create something that is comparable to like the 737 we'll buy them and there it is the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China has orders for 100 single aisle C919 passenger jets From international... Oops. Ugh. Well, here we go. Ah, nice!

2:11:19 There go our engines. Yeah, for now. Then the Chinese will be making their own engines. Of course. Yeah, they're like give us an engine. Give us an engine! We will take this engine. We can deconstruct it. We can look at it. We've got lots of engineers. We can look at engine. Some desperate measures happening down under, although Kiwiland to be exact, one nation Kiwi. Tomorrow they are outlawing all smoking in the prisons down there. And so the prisoners are now smoking the nicotine patches. You know, you want to have a prison riot on your hand? Take away the smoke. So 5,700 inmates have taken up the nicotine replacement therapy.

2:12:08 of nicotine patches and lozenges and now they're smoking them. I'm sorry for you guys. That really must suck. Can you believe that? You're in jail and you can't, you gotta go detox off of smoke. Holy crap, that's gonna be hard. That's gonna be really, really hard. Yeah, I'm looking at this jet. Yeah. I mean it's just got everything. It looks like an exact clone of European American jets. Yeah. Well, it's got the same thing here. The overhead compartments got the same, looks like the same latch. Yeah. Well, I mean, the whole kind of concept of aircraft is not, you know, there's not a lot of revolutionizing you can do. You know, it's just kind of what it is. Yeah, but you'd think there would be something that was a little distinctive. I mean, there's a difference between an Airbus and a Boeing jet.

2:13:04 Anyway, go on. Alright, so I'm just going to run down the news, the things that I just definitely wanted to mention. We have, let me see, oh yes, this was very interesting. So we have this flooding in, is it North Dakota? Where's the flooding taking place? North Dakota Minute is one of the key spots. So now the reason why, why is this all flooding? The Army Corps of Engineers, this is the Missouri River, right? Didn't they decide to open up some land, they flooded land in Mississippi and other places? Yeah. Well, no, this is different. There's been two or three episodes of flooding over the last couple of months, and the rationale for each one's a little different.

2:13:57 But it is... This one's just a river that just apparently went nuts because of nothing but rain and then the high temperatures melting the snowpack and it just overwhelmed the town. Right, but in Missouri they actually let it flood. Yeah, that's a different situation. Okay, this is what I'm talking about. They let it flood in Missouri saying, well we have to do this. Yeah, to protect other parts of the of the country. Well now residents and owners of this land are receiving letters from the Army Corps of Engineers offering to buy their land. How about that for a perfect storm? Oh that's interesting. So first you let it flood and then you say hey let me buy that land. I find that to be, I find that to be Agenda 21 type stuff. Yeah. Personally. I like it. I don't.

2:14:53 I don't like it from a story perspective. I don't like it. Then we have a story for you. Let me give you a story. Sure. Sure. Taiwanese blogger sent to jail for writing negative review of a restaurant. This was going to start happening here, by the way. Oh, yeah. This woman, Liu, blogs about food health and on and on. She says she was She said the food served by the restaurant was too salty, where she only had dried noodles and some side dishes on that day. Moreover, she judged the place as unsanitary because there were cockroaches and challenged the owner was a bully as he allowed customers to park their cars haphazardly, leading to traffic jams. They apparently

2:15:34 After the owner spotted the criticism he accused her of defamation the court rude ruled her criticism of the restaurant exceeded reasonable bounds and sentenced her to 30 days Shut up slave Wow. You really think that's going to happen here as well? Well, once we know what's going to happen here, we're going to have a number of stages. The initial stage is going to be the licensing. Which there's no question in my mind that this audit control blogging situation is going to have to require people to be licensed. Right, in order to write a review. And, yeah, probably. Wow. Hey, the iPhone 4 sucks. You have an iPhone 4.

2:16:14 I'm just saying it or let's say hey the iPhone 5 sucks Hello, son. Do you have a license to review products? Oh, I see you have a license to I don't use license I haven't used the iPhone 4 for six weeks. I'm still using the the Google Android phone loving it the Nexus s Yeah, loving it. I turned off all the tracking stuff as far as I know Yeah, I turn all that stuff off. Yeah, did you turn off your near-field communication to hell? Yeah, you kidding me? Well, I look like some kind of like I fell off the turnip truck So this yeah, I like that. I like the phone. I it's got you know the navigation on that phone I find to be quite standing. I find it outstanding Yeah, it's better than the iPhone. Yeah, no I use it all the time and you can just yell into it You just hit the little microphone you go and it gets your address immediately no more typing in all these different screens city state road

2:17:13 Yeah, I find the voice recognition to be a little sketchy in the field. It works fine in the house. I use it with the top down in my 1999 Saab. Yeah, you know, I could never get the street Hesperian Boulevard. Let me try. Hold on a second. Hesperian Boulevard? Yeah. I got it right here. Let me see if I can do it. San Leandro. Okay, hold on. Let's see. Hesperian Boulevard, San Leandro. Okay. And that's California, right? Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna speak the destination. Hold on. Hesperian Boulevard San Leandro working I got I got Spirian Boulevard no good no good okay well good try I think in general though it has to do with the voice Google recognition really likes my voice and I don't have the customize your voice I didn't want them like

2:18:04 Tracking my voice because you can also set it to so it'll remember your voice and the things that you wanted But it works quite well for me even with background noise and everything. Yeah, you have a you have a I have a missing Mid-range I have I Have a missing mid-range so so cheap microphones. Don't do me any good don't work Yeah, which you sent tend to emphasize the mid-range so the thing that I found very disturbed There's a lot going on with Gabrielle Giffords, right? And, you know, there's a lot of research about connections to Obama and her husband and all kinds of weird things going on. But now there's this Jared Loughner thing where the judge wants to have him doped up on anti-psychotics so that he can testify. This doesn't make sense to me.

2:19:00 Have you been following this? No, I'm not following this at all. You have to brief me on it. Alright, so Jared Lautner who is the lone wolf shooter, so he has to testify. They've already said, oh, the guy's clinically crazy. He's psychotic. But we want him to testify, so we're going to shoot him up with anti-psychotic drugs in order for him to testify. This doesn't sound right to me. It sounds to me like something fishy is going on and they need to dope him up to hand out whatever story. He's already pleaded not guilty. It's weird. Maybe we'll figure something out here and figure out what that's all about. I mention these things so that our NOAA gender producers can get on it because typically they'll come up with some really good things.

2:19:51 E. coli virus or bacteria still rampant throughout Europe. Forensic evidence emerges that the E. coli bug superbug was bioengineered. Of course, we already deconstructed that here on the show. Just in this morning, E. coli outbreak may be traced to Egyptian seeds. Hello. That's a new one. And the FDA is now saying to consumers, don't eat evergreen produce sprouts. Unless you cook them. Right, unless you... I don't even think they're saying that. I think this is from our national treasure NPR. I don't even think they're saying that. I think they're just saying don't eat them, period. I would say look for Russia to do a deal with the Chinese for all of their veggies pretty soon and cut out all of Europe. Now the Food and Drug Administration says this is salmonella. They're not saying E. coli, but they're like jumping on the bandwagon here.

2:20:49 and they just say don't don't eat them at all they don't say no mention here at all about about cooking them so we're also talking about the type of sprouts you use on a sandwich which is not the same as the as the bean sprout that's used in Chinese cuisine right I don't know anyone puts bean sprouts on a sandwich oh it's a people in Holland do that all the time in the lowlands the big bean sprout they're huge not the big ones but it's called tauge I don't think that's the same one. I think that's a green sprout. Oh, I might be wrong. Tony Blair and Bill Clinton are setting up a new business venture. They are starting a merchant bank. Unbelievable. Called Teneo. And that's very interesting because Teneo is a word from... What is the etymology of Teneo? How do you spell it? T-E-N-E-O.

2:21:55 I possess, I occupy, I control, I watch, I guard, I maintain, I defend, I retain, restrain, detain, check, control, very... I always love it when people name companies. I want to know where it's coming from. So they're going to be controlling something. They're getting into the banking business together. Good on you guys. Very, very good. Love that. Well, hopefully the real bankers out there will take these guys for all they have. Well, they are of course part of it. You were wondering what Julian Assange was up to that we haven't heard anything from him? Yeah, I had this thesis on the last show that he did what he had to do and they got the Libyan Tunisian thing started.

2:22:39 basically and then this is just shunted he's done right he's done but of course i guess to make a living so one of our producers that we did me i tweeted me this uh... this particular photo and you can always follow me on twitter uh... lol mc And this is 15th to 17th July 2011, the Cass Business School, London. The Center for Investigative Journalism Summer School. This year's themes, whistleblowing, taxation and digital activism with keynote speaker Julian Assange. He's doing gigs now. He's been relegated. You should start doing stand-up before you do it. He's just doing gigs. It's a beautiful thing.

2:23:23 I love it. I wonder who his agent is. There's a nine-year-old kid who discovered something very interesting about our president and all and just about every single president of our elitist society. It's the first family tree of its kind, pouring through more than half a million names for months. 12-year-old Bridge Ann D'Avignon discovered that all the U.S. presidents except Martin Van Buren are related to the former king of England, John Lackland Plantagenet, signer of the Magna Carta in 1215. Mildred Reed is his first great-grandmother on George Washington and on Obama Mildred Reed is the

2:24:05 10th great-grandmother. It started as an assignment to research her own lineage. There you go. They're all related to the King of England but one, Martin Van Buren, who I think was an actor actually. Wasn't he in like some sitcom? A lot of people put Martin Van Buren at the beginning of the corrupt government movement in the United States. Really? Yeah. Was he corrupt? Yeah, I think so. Interesting. So I thought that was kind of fun. He initiated a lot of weird stuff. The other one that's kind of interesting to follow, when we look at the CIA, the intelligence-centric government and all the growth of agencies that want to tell you what to do, it looks like it stems from Truman. Truman. It's been growing ever since. Truman. That's how you got to say it, like Seinfeld. Truman. Truman. Truman. I can't believe, you know, like Newman. Truman.

2:25:05 I only have two things left, John, if you got anything. I'm good. You're good? You're done? Well, I mean, I would like to play that clip of all the... Oh, geez, no, no, no. I recorded it for you. It's 12 minutes and it's horrible. No, it's not. It's horrible. It is the... It's not 12 minutes. Of all the Miss Americas? Well, then, no, I think, no, that clip has been changed then because that clip I think that you have, that that I think they switched it because the original clip is about a minute and a half. Oh no no no. It's 12 minutes of all... They got something else going. I'll get the real clip and put it in. I mean it was interesting. It's not 12 minutes. Well, you sent me the YouTube video. I made the clip since your stuff was all messed up. I think they swapped that video out because the clip that I was running was short.

2:25:55 it got to the point and he ran through it, it was quite amusing. No, this is not so right. I'm sorry. Well first I have an example of why you need to support our show because this is what passes for programming on our national treasure NPR. Hello everybody! Yeah! From WAMU 88.5 at American University in Washington, welcome to the Kojo Namdi Show, connecting your neighborhood with the world. It's Tech Tuesday! It's Tech Tuesday everybody! Woo!

2:26:35 How about some jazzy music? It's Tech Tuesday! What are we gonna do? Hello, Kofi and I! It's a rambling, chaotic conversation about local and neighborhood culture taking place 24 hours a day, 140 characters at a time. Welcome to the real-time, frenetic world of Twitter. Le Twitter! Unbelievable! That's programming? We're paying for that? I'm sorry. We're not paying for it. Wait a minute, you're telling me that this is a show where they just read tweets? No, they have like all these Twitter tweeter experts and they're talking about the importance of tweeter. Holy crap. Yeah, it's unbelievable. But it's Tech Tuesday everybody! Yeah, Tech Tuesday! Hey, really? Are you out of your mind? There's nothing tech about Twitter. No.

2:27:26 So I have a clip which I think is an end of show clip but I think it's important because it ends in the most unbelievable way that we have to come back after the clip. And this is of Mayor Bloomberg on Fox & Friends. It just came in this morning otherwise I would have... I mean I tried to cut it down but everything is so outrageous in this clip. Every meme is in it. It is... This is Mayor Bloomberg uh... with the psa of adam gaddam uh... which they they set him up with this and apparently we have to now go after gun shows because adam gaddam the american who uh... president obama will eventually kill with a drone because he's already tried and legal for him to do that now uh... is uh... telling uh... the terrorists

2:28:23 to go and buy guns at gun shows. Because this is the easiest place to go and get a gun. And Mayor Bloomberg, he wants this stopped because this is terrorism! Squirrel! Complete terrorism! And every single meme hits this clip all the way up to the end. So I will leave your mic open for any responses that you might have to it, but it will freak you out. You ready? Hit it. Congress about illegal guns saying that they are more than a crime problem. They're now a national security danger They even use the words of an al-qaeda spokesperson in a new PSA

2:29:01 The latest Al-Qaeda plot instructs terrorists on how to buy guns in America. This is a golden opportunity. America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms. You can go down to a gun show and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle without a background check. So what are you waiting for? Joining us this morning to talk more about this, someone who's fought against this for years is New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Good to see you this morning. This gun show loophole, an estimated 40% of US gun purchases are sold without background checks because of this quote private sale or gun show loophole. Why has that not been able to be closed after all of these years? Congress is just unwilling to face the fact that the Second Amendment doesn't protect terrorists. I don't think anybody thinks that Al-Qaeda would...

2:29:51 Yeah, you're loving it, right? It gets better. ...in the minds of the founding fathers. Right. Have a- I don't think- Oh, did you hear that? Oh my god, I gotta replay that. Play that again. I don't think, this is another anti-constitution meme. Face the fact that the second amendment doesn't protect terrorists. I don't think anybody thinks that Al Qaeda was in the minds of the founding fathers. Right. Have a right to buy. What is that? That's actually, that is a total anti-constitution meme. And not only that but- It's saying that the constitution is a dated document that needs to be updated based on today's facts. And didn't we have like the British or something? Didn't we have our own version of terrorists back in the day when they wrote this? Yeah, they storm in and they do unwarranted checks. George III's troops would come in your house. That's why we had to set up the... you had to have warrants, but of course, seemed to have been avoided recently because with the Viper teams, but that's beside the point. But there was... yeah, yeah, they were the terrorists. Yeah, so... but of course the founding fathers weren't thinking of Al-Qaeda back in the day.

2:30:52 Right. Guns protected in the Constitution. Every state has the right to set their own laws. They do that. But the federal government passed a law saying you can't buy a gun if you are a minor, if you have psychiatric problems, or if you have a criminal record. Then they didn't fund the ATF so that there's really no enforcement of it. And they have this gun show loophole where if you say I'm a casual seller, You don't have to do the background check that's required to meet the first set of requirements that I just talked about. And so people go to gun shows and just buy guns and sellers go to gun shows and they're not casual sellers, they can have a few hundred guns there to sell. And the guy you saw in the ad, he's not an actor. This is a terrorist. This is a guy we think is hiding in Pakistan, an American,

2:31:42 Adam Gadon. Yes. Converted to Muslim, to become a Muslim and which is nothing, Muslims, most Muslims aren't terrorists. This guy. John, did you know that most Muslims aren't terrorists? Really? I thought they all were. Most aren't, but of course. Let me write this down in the red book. Most Muslims aren't terrorists. So this guy Ghaddan is a total stooge. He made this commentary as a part of a greater scheme. Of course! Of course! He's not even a terrorist. The guy's a phony. No, he's a terrorist! And wait until you hear Bloomberg at the end. He's a terrorist. He's a terrorist. There happens to be an extreme Muslim who is out there advocating people to buy guns and kill Americans

2:32:27 and he says you can just do it right in america just walk up to a gun show. So the NRA response to that spot is that he is uh... recommending to people who are not part of an organized uh... movement really lone wolves to go buy guns those lone wolves who might go to a gun show and buy that gun and commit a terrorist attack wouldn't be on a watch list anyway quite possibly. I don't know that but what's the what a rational reason could you have for not at least trying it is true that everybody that wants to uh... bring down an airline is on the terrorist watch list but to not check that we get on a plane doesn't make any sense now listen to this listen to this we're gonna put it into your head now this clip and fox and friends fox fox and friend you with a hot chick as a fox and friends running this i thought they were like the ultra you know conservatives that would be big totally questioning this thing i got a boner for the chicks on that show

2:33:17 Good. They do find some people. Be a donor. And I can just, if you were on that plane, how would you feel as you're coming to the end of your life and say, well they didn't have the courage to test? I'm coming to the end of my life and I'm thinking, they didn't have the courage to test. Can you believe that this is a serious mayor that he's talking like this? This is weird. Wait a minute, that's more than Bin Laden's killed.

2:34:10 30,000 these Mexican horrible Mexicans and the guns they get here. There's no question the guns come from America and we buy their drugs. Right. Yeah, the government. The money goes to fund more drugs, more guns. Absolutely. There's no question. No question. They screwed up. They did a lousy operation. That does not mean we shouldn't keep trying to stop the flow of guns. This is how it's going to be whitewashed. this whole fast and furious. They just did a lousy operation. The idea was good. The idea of smuggling guns in was good. It's just that they did a lousy operation. If I was in charge of the Department of Homeland Security, it wouldn't have happened. People who advocate for gun rights say we have a lot of rules. We have a lot of laws on the books already. They're not enforced.

2:34:54 and so for a person who wants to be a typical Republican, well you guys have a wonderful, I mean you guys have a really good city, has a great... Okay, there are plenty of other cities and states in this country that do a good job too, you know, America isn't full of... America. Did you hear that? America. America. In America. Just read an article about on the streets of Newark you can just buy a gun. You know quite easily actually probably just as easily as you can buy drugs or something else. Look the mayor of Newark Cory Booker's got a very tough job so does the mayor of every city in this country.

2:35:39 Even if you don't get everyone, why would you not want to stop those people who have psychiatric problems, are minors, or have criminal records? We have a federal law that says they can't buy guns, but it doesn't apply to gun shows where 40% of the guns, as you pointed out, come from. There's just no reason not to enforce the existing law. Now, John, this is about to wind up with 15 seconds left. What did you just say about Adam Gadahn? He's a stooge for the anti-gun lobby. And incidentally, you also want to close what they call a terrorist gap, and that is if you can't fly, you should be added to that category of minor... People who can't. People who can't. People who can't guns. All right, Mayor Bloomberg, good to see you. Thanks very much for joining us. Thanks for having me. This is real. This is a real terrorist.

2:36:31 He points back at the Ghaddan guy and says, this is a real terrorist? Yeah! This is real! This is real! This is a real terrorist! What is he terrorizing? What has he done that makes him a terrorist? I don't know, but this is real. This is a real terrorist. Just some blowhard. Yeah. A CIA! Please. Yeah, on somebody. His dad was, I think his dad was in charge of the Anti-Defamation League. Let me please. Oh, you should look into Ghana. Yeah, I've heard of this guy this I gotta look into him a little more all right well John it's always a pleasure or I said we should say a pleasure and I look forward that we can do this glad we still do this show here in America and In America because we might have to move to China if we well we got our podcast license Thank you and everybody for supporting the show. It's extremely important. It's the only way we can continue our work and

2:37:33 It's just nice that people seem to appreciate it. And I can't- Ah, what? Yeah. Hey! Hello everybody! I'm trippin' on summa! And here in Gitmo Nation West, People's Republic of Southern California, I will soon leave! Thank you Jerry Brown, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. Talk to you again on Sunday, right here on NO Agenda.

2:38:11 Not just their time, but their treasure. And not waste our precious blood and treasure. The loss in blood and treasure. We must make hard choices about where to spend our blood and treasure. I just don't believe that it is worth the blood and the treasure. In blood and treasure. In my mind, not only are the costs in lives and treasure. With all of the American lives. and treasure that were laid down for the lives and the treasure that were expended. A second war was launched in Iraq, and we spent enormous blood and treasure.