Episode 200 · Sunday, 16 May 2010

The Deuce!

Federal attorneys argue against the right to choose your own food as global salt mandates and high-speed rail security agendas take hold across the West.

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The FDA and federal attorneys argued in an Iowa court that citizens possess no fundamental right to obtain any food they wish, specifically targeting the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund and the sale of raw milk. This legal stance coincides with the United Nations Codex Alimentarius initiative, which seeks to establish global food protocols that supersede local laws. Meanwhile, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the National Salt Reduction Initiative have successfully pressured Heinz and Starbucks to reformulate products, sparking concerns that sodium reduction is a tool for public docility rather than heart health.

Arianna Huffington claimed on KCRW that TSA agents are developing cancer from airport x-ray machines, a statement followed by an immediate and suspicious broadcast disconnect. In Buffalo, President Barack Obama promoted high-speed rail as a security-friendly alternative to flying, despite simultaneous CNN reports of Al-Qaeda threats against commuter lines. Overseas, the assassination of General Khattiya Sawasdiphol in Thailand and the potential compromise of NATO codes following the Polish government plane crash signal deepening geopolitical instability. Domestically, the Financial Reform Act is characterized as a power grab for the Federal Reserve, empowering the same banking entities that triggered the global recession.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate their 200th episode milestone by knighting Executive Producers John Snyder and Jordi Ramirez into the No Agenda Roundtable. The duo deconstructs a bizarre Law and Order cameo by Sharon Stone and a reality TV appearance by Christina Curry on a Uri Geller special. The episode concludes with a look at the mysterious fungus destroying Afghan opium crops and the introduction of the controversial courageous restraint medal for U.S. troops.


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CHAPTER 01 / 37 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 200, New Studio Gear

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the 200th episode of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. Dvorak discusses his new studio setup involving gear from the UK, though he notes he is still recording on a Macintosh due to a lack of a hardware recorder. The hosts announce a special "backstage" episode 200.5 for donors.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· episode 200· gitmo nation· podcasting gear· macintosh

00:00 They open fire for public safety? It's a friggin' deer! Adam Curry, John C. DeVorak. It's May 16, 2010, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 200! This is no agenda. Yes, celebrating 200 episodes of Mediocrity and coming to you from the hilltop watchtower crockpot command center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning to y'all, I'm Adam Curry. I think not regarding mediocrity. This is number 200 from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. DePrague. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. I just wanted to see if I could throw you off guard. Oh, you can always throw me off guard. In the morning to you, my friend. And in the morning to everybody listening. Yes, and congratulations, John.

00:50 Because you have new gear. Well, yeah. No, congratulations on 200 episodes. Yes, I think it's pretty amazing. I think it's a... it's a feat. It's yeah, it is a feat actually very few people can do it especially with the kind of support We're getting from our listeners, which I think is a good thing and this is something that we'll be talking about on our special 200.5 episode now is this officially the deuce or is the 200.5 episode? This is this is the this is what everyone's celebrating the other thing is is the after party. It's the backstage the backstage pass. It's the after party It's the you know, let's chat about what happened. I

01:28 So yeah for this 200th episode we have new gear you sound lovely my friend Well, let's hope that everyone else out there thinks so And let's hope that someone's recording the stream just in case it all messes up Yes, you have all this new gear you put together a complete new studio. I understand that like the well It's not a new studio everything came in from the UK so I've put together the old studio that I used to have and right so you have this studio now which has real gear instead of everything right here in the in macintosh and uh... But unfortunately I understand as I understand it you still have to record on the Macintosh because you don't have like any hardware recorder And so you're hoping that people are backing you up as we speak. Yeah, I I looked for one over the weekend I just couldn't find one that was suitable this it's not really something you just easily go to a store and pick one up a really good high-end go to Miss musicians friend comm slash recorders know exactly online I can get it and

CHAPTER 02 / 37 Discussion

Executive Producer John Snyder, Donation Milestones

John Snyder from Chicago is named an executive producer after contributing a record-breaking donation of over $1,400, bringing his total support to $2,000. Ben Blondin is also recognized as an executive producer and promotes his organic vending business. The hosts explain the value of being a producer for the show and how it impacts their media deconstruction efforts.

john snyder· ben blondin· donations· executive producer· knighthood· vendingbynature.com

02:28 Yeah. It's just I wanted to pick one up on Saturday. Actually, I don't know. I know the H2 from Zoom and the H4s are generally available all over the place. John, who is our executive producer for today's episode? I've got a couple. Hold on a second. You caught me off guard with a piece of pomelo in my mouth. Pomelo? What is a pomelo? If you've ever had a pomelo, you know what I'm talking about. Alright, alright. I still have to get the spreadsheet. I think for today. I have two executive producers And one will become a knight and that's John Snyder from Chicago Who gave us actually two donations? He's actually a double executive producer if he wants to play that do that, but we're just gonna name him one I gave us one two three four five six what I

03:27 Oh, 123 I'm sure. No, no, no, 1,200. Really? Yep, the ante. We're waiting for now. Wow. The next ante is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Is this the highest donation we've ever received for this program? That's a good question. Eric can tell us. In one go, I think it is. Well, not only that, but he added another 200. Actually, his total for the show is actually 1468.65. This must be another Goldman Sachs guy. it's a yesterday at the the it's a good well so that kind of money and we do now you know and sex listeners all you go with sex guys uh... uh... boy he's uh... changes as he has a very short note it is he says that uh... it's actually is a double night he's now at uh... two thousand donated andy's this is the blows the show cuz it's changed the way he looks at news

04:21 and information. He says our show has changed the way he sees things, which is actually kind of what we're trying to do, which is make people think like we do. Not necessarily exactly like we do, but just to see through things a little bit better. Because we're both media guys and we on both sides of from print to you know broadcast to scam so you for reality shows yeah we have that with in fact we've done we've run the gamut haven't we pretty much everything except writing a dictionary and I but I did do a glossary and so we've seen what a bunch of bullcrap is going on and we just try to you know communicate that and and and Snyder

05:04 appreciates it and I we appreciate people like Snyder because we actually do the show for all our producers. Now, the second executive producer because he gave 33333 which we just kind of grandfathered into being an executive producer no matter what and it's Ben Blondin from Brook Park, Ohio and he wants to plug vendingbynature.com Vending by nature organic stuff. Okay, not not vegan just organic Commitment eating so which is interesting because whenever you get into the show the guts of the show I want to start off with something kind of thematic along those lines then we have associate executive producers Jody Ramirez in Cancun Hey

05:55 Cancun, we could be there. $256.30 and Jason Morella, Augusta, Georgia, he has an email for us, we have to go look it up. We'll talk about it when we do the regular donations later. And Robert Mathers in Jersey City, $201. On behalf of Radio Free Jersey. Okay, cool. He thought it was is that a pie it must be a pirate station. I wonder if it what I'm sorry. There's one thing boy some things have changed here As you can tell not all my Mac sounds are coming through. Yeah, sorry. I don't know might be I wonder if that It's probably just online though. That's on the last cool enough

06:41 uh... and then also we want to thank god we have the world in this show two hundred dot five we will go over the deuce club members who actually we should list them as uh... executive pretty or co-executive for our uh... so she executive producers for this show just on mass uh... because we have a lot of people they gave us the two hundred dollars that we uh... wanted to use to celebrate the show so uh... wanna thank them but will thank them more profusely in two hundred point five uh... that's it okay well we uh... of course really appreciate the support from john snyder and then blonde and who are the executive producers for episode two hundred associate executive producers jody jordy ramirez jason morella and robert matters i think this is actually pretty smart uh... if you're going to support the show and want to become a producer of the show when executive producer associate uh... this was the one to do because it looks that much better on your resume i think

07:36 uh... executive producer of episode two hundred of no agenda and of course uh... as we'll talk about later in the donations it actually can get you laid so you need to go out and propagate our formula it's very simple our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth alright let's say it together it's our mantra i wanna hear you john shut up! that's me! Nice. Well, you know, now that you have the new gear, I'm not going to be lagging so much because I could never do the shut up slave because it'd be like five minutes later you'd hear it. What, your jokes you mean? No, not the jokes, the shut up slave line. Oh, okay. But yeah, that's one of the reasons you're not getting my jokes because the time... No, I get your jokes, I just... Yeah, no, you don't. So, okay, so you're all antsy. You've been sending me... You were up late last night. I saw email from you at like 1.30.

CHAPTER 03 / 37 Discussion

DVR for Radio, Media Monitoring Habits

The hosts discuss their habits for capturing media clips, including keeping recorders running on television sets constantly. A desire is expressed for a DVR-like device for terrestrial radio to capture fleeting moments while driving.

dvr· radio· media monitoring· cable box· recording

08:38 Yeah. You shouldn't do that on school night. You know what's annoying about this spreadsheet? Cause it's just annoying. Oh, here it is. Okay, never mind. Is that you can't stretch it or it was it seemed locked but it wasn't never mind. Yeah No, I was a I've been get I got too many clips. I got my new I keep the recorder on the television set permanently And so I mean I can get clips all day because there's so much inanity. I know that's the right way. It's annoying, isn't it? It's like whatever I guess like what is this? Oh I have one cable box that isn't a DVR and I'm afraid to turn it on. It's like I know if I turn that one on and I watch that one in the kitchen, I'm gonna miss something that I can't rewind. That's kind of my rule. If I'm watching TV, it's gotta be on the DVR box. Yeah, no, actually that happens to me when I'm driving around the car on the radio and I wish somebody would come up with a DVR for the radio because you drive, oh my, what did he say? And you reach for something, a button to push and there's nothing there.

CHAPTER 04 / 37 Discussion

Raw Milk War, FDA Food Rights Lawsuit

Attorneys for the federal government argued in an Iowa court case that individuals do not have a fundamental right to obtain any food they wish. The lawsuit, filed by the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund, challenges the FDA ban on the interstate sale of raw milk. The government's brief asserts there is no historical tradition of unfettered access to all food types.

raw milk· fda· department of justice· iowa· farm to consumer legal defense fund· stephanie rose

09:39 Alright, so do you so did like your aunt see you good? You sent me a crap load. I mean I got clips I got stories. I got tons of stuff follow-ups But let's start off with something that my wife got me worked up about last night. That's what she said apparently and by the way, I want to I'm gonna have to like publicly apologize to you and for poo-pooing your consistent over the years harping carping whatever you want to call it on the alimentary codex alimentary is oh it's okay John I I humbly accept your apology now the US government could you just say it please what could you just say hey I'm really sorry no

10:30 You got you what you got there was all you're gonna get all right, otherwise you'll start playing it as a clip So I'm opening up my the the node on my outliner called the great salt war I'm just getting ready for whatever. Yeah, there's a big raw milk war going on too, and they apparently the government is deciding the following the plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to obtain any food they wish and Yeah, shut up, slave. Attorneys for the federal government have argued in a lawsuit pending in federal court in Iowa that individuals have no quote fundamental right to obtain what food they choose. This is from a WND website. Brief was filed April 26 in support of a motion to dismiss a lawsuit filed by the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund over the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's ban on interstate sale of raw milk.

11:27 There's no quote, there's no deeply rooted historical tradition of unfettered access to foods of all kinds says the statement signed by the US Attorney Stephanie Rose, Assistant Martha Fagg and Roger Gural, trial attorney for the US Department of Justice. No wonder they went into law with names like that. I mean, you might as well just sue people all day. I'm getting back at you for calling me Fagg all my life. Plaintiff's assertion of a fundamental right to their own bodily and physical health, which includes what foods they do and do not choose to consume for themselves and their families, is similarly unavailing because plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to obtain any food they wish the government has argued. Really? This is where? Iowa. Wow. Of all places, by the way. Yeah, really. You know, Farmville.

12:26 This is part of a... I have a couple links here which I'll try to... I'll send you, we can post them. This is part of an assault by the governments, state governments, health departments and US government on the dairy, the raw milk dairy industry. which uh... is seen as some sort of a threat i've never figured out exactly why i mean i mean there are probably a dirty dairies that should be selling raw milk most dairy dairies are but the the guys who are really into it or extremely play hyper clean and um... we uh... in washington uh... we go to a dime i'm gonna mention the place but it's the first raw milk dairy and uh... washington state the milk is so much

CHAPTER 05 / 37 Discussion

Codex Alimentarius, UN Food Control Protocols

The Codex Alimentarius is described as a United Nations initiative designed to establish global food rules that supersede local laws. Concerns are raised regarding Senator John McCain's bill to control dietary supplements and an FDA proposal that could potentially classify vitamins, fruit juice, and even water as drugs.

codex alimentarius· united nations· lisbon treaty· fda· dietary supplements· john mccain

13:17 Just better in every way. and the guys under nothing but constant attacks because he actually made it so that uh... that they can legalize raw milk in uh... washington state and now there's like twenty five raw milk dairies and i'm sure some are no good but uh... there at their start to get the guy so yes so perhaps a little background for people who are new to the show if uh... if you listening since the twenty seventh of november two twenty six in november two thousand seven i think that's the first time i probably mentioned the codex codex alimentarius And you can Google those exact words. It's a United Nations initiative, which I tell you enough right there. It's a huge document with all kinds of protocols and connected and related documents. It's been going on. I think this has been building. It's just like climate change. It's been building for 50 years. They had these conferences around the world. And now the board of the Codex is like 127 representatives. And this is starting to filter down and went into

14:18 into effect with the signing of the Lisbon Treaty in Europe at January 1st 2009 I believe although 2010 there was some legal change and now It actually is law above the local laws as far as I understand remember. I'm just a disc jockey So I'm just trying to read stuff and understand it and the word alimentarius of course means law or rules I guess more specifically so it is the the... I thought alimentary has something to do with food. I'm sorry, codex means... Codex is the law. It's food rules. Food rules. And it's just filtering down. But why? I mean, see, what's the backstory here? It's very simple. It's simple. You control the food, you control the people. I know this is what you're going to say and I don't think it's that simple. You control the food, you control the people. It is that simple. What do you mean?

15:12 And now, you know, McCain... Where's the money? McCain has introduced a bill... McCain? Yes, McCain has introduced a bill to... The Republican McCain? Yes, the Republican McCain in February to control dietary supplements. And in fact, if they're not, they'll have to be approved by the FDA. Well, take this one step further with my wife complaining to me. Let me take this, let me finish off my little piece here. uh... public uh... this is again from uh... the debbie in the dot com website under the uh... title life with big brother uh... a public comment period on a food and drug administration plan to classify vitamins supplements herbs and even fruit juice as drugs has been extended from april thirtieth of may twenty ninth after the proposal was publicized in a report by us this website

16:08 The extension was confirmed in an FDA posting will allow consumers additional time to comment on the plan docket number 2006D-0480 that opponents say could even classify water as a drug when it is used to treat dehydration. It's a shut up slave moment. I can't say it any other way. What do you read into this other than a bunch of, you know, people with names like Fag were pestered all their life and they're like, well, when you give me a stapler, I'm going to get back at you one day. When I'm big, I'm going to go control your food. I mean, that's the only other thing I can see. It's unbelievable.

CHAPTER 06 / 37 Discussion

National Salt Reduction Initiative, Health Policy Skepticism

The National Salt Reduction Initiative, championed by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, aims to lower sodium intake across the United States. While the New England Journal of Medicine suggests salt reduction could significantly lower heart disease rates, the hosts express skepticism toward the data and the underlying policy motivations.

salt· michael bloomberg· new york city· new england journal of medicine· heart disease· sodium

16:53 I'm sure this particular website exaggerates things, but when they're taking direct quotes and you're seeing this stuff and you can actually interpret it, really interpret it that water is a drug. If CO2 is a pollutant... Yeah, water might as well be a drug, you're right. CO2 is a pollutant, oxygen could be a drug. I mean, you know, in other words, anything that actually sustains us, food... It's ridiculous! This is crazy! Crazy thought! Salt goes right along with that. We've been tracking this for a number of weeks. Of course, we have the National Salt Reduction Initiative, which I believe is being pushed by Mayor Bloomberg in New York.

17:38 But I read, and of course this thing is now spread out, right? It's completely ingrained. We're only seeing it now, we're starting to notice it. And the New York Times, of course, completely on board with the program. But very interestingly, in a report that may bolster public policy efforts to get Americans to reduce the amount of salt in their diets, scientists writing in the New England Journal of Medicine, which is, I guess, pretty well respected, John, conclude that lowering the amount of salt people eat, even by a small amount, could reduce cases of heart disease, stroke and heart attacks as much as reductions of smoking. Oh, please! But this is the New England Journal of Medicine, so apparently if you reduce your salt intake, it's the same as reducing the number of cigarettes you smoke. I just don't believe that.

18:30 It's really hard to believe. And the way that this is being spun, of course, is well, you know, this is all about health care and, you know, it'll save us 50 or 60 billion dollars a year if people eat less salt. And granted that salt is overused in processed foods and stuff you buy at the supermarket that that is pre-packaged. and there's a number of reasons for it. That may be the only backfiring mechanism here to these people because it's big, let me read you from that same article about the water. The guys go on to the effort, he points to efforts, this is the Codex Alimentarius Commission that was created in 1963 by the Food and Agriculture Organization, World Health Organization. Hey, World Health, our friends. Both official groups within the United Nations.

19:19 claims that their main purpose is to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair trade practices in the food trade worldwide. That is what they originally said. As part of the codex is for labeling and that's that you're getting what you're supposed to be getting from a different country But of course it's now just turned into control Yes, and it's all bullcrap too because they don't let you label all kinds of stuff within the EU the Swedes were complaining that their jams can't have the Swedish flag on it because it would be You know there's something sinister about that even though people might want a certain kind of barrier jam from Sweden because the berries from you know that part of the world are outstanding and So that's all bogus. And now Heinz, for the first time in 40 years, Heinz Ketchup

CHAPTER 07 / 37 Discussion

Heinz Ketchup Salt Reduction, Corporate Compliance

Heinz announced a new ketchup recipe featuring 15% less salt to comply with new health guidelines, a move mirrored by companies like Starbucks and Subway. Questions are raised regarding why these companies focus on salt reduction rather than removing high fructose corn syrup from their products.

heinz· ketchup· salt· high fructose corn syrup· starbucks· subway

18:30 It's really hard to believe. And the way that this is being spun, of course, is well, you know, this is all about health care and, you know, it'll save us 50 or 60 billion dollars a year if people eat less salt. And granted that salt is overused in processed foods and stuff you buy at the supermarket that that is pre-packaged. and there's a number of reasons for it. That may be the only backfiring mechanism here to these people because it's big, let me read you from that same article about the water. The guys go on to the effort, he points to efforts, this is the Codex Alimentarius Commission that was created in 1963 by the Food and Agriculture Organization, World Health Organization. Hey, World Health, our friends. Both official groups within the United Nations.

19:19 claims that their main purpose is to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair trade practices in the food trade worldwide. That is what they originally said. As part of the codex is for labeling and that's that you're getting what you're supposed to be getting from a different country But of course it's now just turned into control Yes, and it's all bullcrap too because they don't let you label all kinds of stuff within the EU the Swedes were complaining that their jams can't have the Swedish flag on it because it would be You know there's something sinister about that even though people might want a certain kind of barrier jam from Sweden because the berries from you know that part of the world are outstanding and So that's all bogus. And now Heinz, for the first time in 40 years, Heinz Ketchup

20:03 Has and and I love it because if you google Heinz ketchup less salt you'll get their PR statement everywhere Which AP of course blatantly copied from the press release I write and it says Heinz has cooked up a new recipe everybody 15% less salt and And they're not worried about about consumers being turned off by a crappy taste apparently which it'll I'm sure you're gonna notice a difference and I have a letter in to Heinz's PR department, there's a couple people there, as we speak. I had to do it over the weekend, and so nobody, you know, this is not a high-tech company, so they don't work on the weekends, and so I haven't gotten a note back yet. But I question this public relations commentary because, and the question I ask is simple. Why don't you ban high fructose corn syrup instead of salt in your crappy ass product?

20:54 Close even more interesting is my question is are you telling me you haven't changed your formula in 40 years and you were using high fructose corn syrup in 1970 I don't think so good question. I like that. So I'm waiting for the answer So there's 16 other companies who are complying it actually says complying with the flying away and i had a rule i guess yeah this is from uh... the examiner whose website is actually a little bit funky this morning uh... but includes uh... starbucks it includes uh... subway assault in the starbucks coffee they do sell food now i must say there was an interesting uh... article posted on no agenda report dot com by the way stop

21:44 What I just said about this is like a publicity grab. Starbucks should be ashamed of themselves. They don't have anything to do with it. They don't have a dog in the hunt. Well, of course. But by lending their name, they're giving credibility to this bull crap. Yeah. So Starbucks, stop drinking any Starbucks, anyone out listening. Seriously, I think that's really bad. So a good piece written by Professor Tom This Noah Jen report comm is getting pretty good actually we people are starting to research stuff and contribute and I like it You should take a look at that from time to time Jen this is one of the many websites that we have that are created by are the audience which I love and title of this is codex alimentarius vis-a-vis fight clubs oxygen masks

CHAPTER 08 / 37 Discussion

Salt as Social Control, Gourmet Salt Fads

A theory is proposed that reducing salt intake is intended to make the population more docile by lowering hypertension. The discussion contrasts the government's anti-salt stance with the recent gourmet salt fad popularized by chefs like Thomas Keller, while emphasizing the biological necessity of salt for electrolyte balance.

salt· hypertension· fight club· thomas keller· fleur de sel· electrolytes

22:35 And so he draws an analogy and you know I still have not seen Fight Club because I thought it was like a dumb fight movie. Oh, it's a great film. Yeah, I know. So I gotta get this on Netflix. So apparently there's a piece in Fight Club There's a dialogue. Hey, do you know why they put oxygen masks on airplanes? And of course well because you can breathe no oxygen gets you high in a catastrophic emergency You're a high on oxygen. So you're nice and calm as you ride it all the way down. So He's drawing the professor Tom draws the analogy to to salt or sodium And he says, look, this has been known to cause hypertension. Perhaps less salt will make people more calm, more docile, more with the program. Just watch him, Joy Behar. And I think that, you know, that's not bad. It's not a bad theory, actually. I kind of like it. But when you start Googling around, it's amazing. You know, CNN, of course, is all over the salt.

23:38 they had what is it 25 surprisingly salty processed foods It's just like it's like you know what pretty soon blowjobs will be outlawed because they're too salty It's just nuts anyway, so the whole thing is and there's something called the food modernization Act that seems to be floating around that has something to do with this and I think it has directly linked to the codex the whole thing is a The fact that the mainstream media is not questioning any of this, I mean... No, they're on board. They're totally on board, but I don't think half of them realize how idiotic it is. And I think the irony that I was going to point out earlier was the fact that the big giant food, you know, the McDonald's and all these giant Uber corporations that rely on salt and fat to get people to keep eating their food because it has a slightly addictive nature.

24:35 are the ones that are going to suffer the most. So there's actually some sort of a humorous aspect to this in that regard. Well, there's a couple. First of all, salt is an essential, what is it actually? Is it a mineral, salt? Yeah, it's a mineral. You need to have it, especially for your electrolytic balance in your body. We have a lot of electricity that we need to operate ourselves. I mean, you know, that fires nerves and makes the heart pump. Yeah, you need that salt in there, otherwise you know it shorts out. Yeah, and so salt is completely essential, but throughout the years salt has been used in a variety of interesting ways. First of all, we're probably using a lot less salt than we used to because we have refrigeration now, we don't need to

25:22 you know, to bury everything in salt to keep it from spoiling. But the Roman soldiers, foot soldiers, were actually paid in salt. In fact, that's where the word salary comes from, from sal as in salt, the Latin sal. And salt has been used as money in history. Maybe they want to grab all the money now before we actually need it, before we revert to using salt as cash. You know, what's kind of amusing is that this whole salt thing comes right on the heels of a, and if you, anyone who's gone to any of the gourmet food expos for the trade, it comes right on the heels of a huge salt fad. And you can find it in a lot of specialty grocery stores. There will be a myriad of wacky salts

26:13 This was largely triggered by people, chefs like Thomas Keller at the French Laundry who will serve little plates full of different kinds of screwball salts from Hawaii and lava salts and sea salts and pink salts that are in giant crystals. And this was like a big deal and in fact, the local store down in the San Francisco Bay Area, gourmet kind of high-end grocery store, Andronico's, they have a huge salt selection So salt became like a kind of a amongst foodies a big deal, you know So I want I'd like to have the Malaysian green I've been cooking a lot recently Mickey's also on this diet where she has no specific stuff and I'm really getting into it and the first thing I notice is hey, you need damn salt on everything if you don't put some salt and I use sea salt and

27:06 from Formentera actually in Spain where a lot of good sea salt comes from and you need it. You can't cook without it. Everything tastes like crap if you don't use salt. He uses salt and pepper. If you watch any of the gourmet cooking shows, the guys, you watch Jack Papan, who's like in, I think he's 80-something now, in great health, you know, he's been around forever, and he, he cooks, he says a little pepper, he puts, he puts like a shitload of pepper, and then he takes like a handful of salt and dumps it in. Yeah. You know, little salties always cause a little salt. It's quite a bit actually. It's a lot more than I use. So the bottom line is, of course, you know, the salt that is in processed prepackaged foods are needed because otherwise people would figure out it's not actually food that they're eating. It's cardboard.

27:53 That is salted to make it taste like some kind of food. Yeah, there's too much salt But that's fine, but you know educate people don't tell them what to do shut up slave Educate people out there. I'm gonna tell you a couple salt tips. Okay, John's the borax salt tip of the day They're really great salt in the world that just for some reason is got it just has everything going for it are these hand uh... these things are carpool by by individuals uh... and very salt marshes and it's it's french and but they do make it here in there it's called florida cell f l e u r d e s e l and this is it's a in outstanding saw special salad or something that maintains its crunchiness and it's just a fantastic thing there's also something that that they try to sell the american public called grace salt

28:47 which is a salt that the French really rarely cook with. And it's, don't get it, it's junk. and the other one is there is a bunch of smoked salts now and if you have this strong, the American ones are overly smoked but there is a Florida cell that is smoked called Fumacell which is actually the only, pretty much the only salt I'm using currently that is absolutely fantastic. It's got a very light smoke taste but you can't really identify it as smoky. Very good stuff. And where do I pick this up? At Costco? I don't know. I don't know where to get this stuff. Alright, let's move off of code. I want to play a clip that is a double whammy. It's a media... it's actually a triple header. It's a media assassination. It's a big boo-boo. And it shows you why our national treasure, NPR, is full of crap. This is an awesome clip from KCRW. Where's KCRW? Is that in San Francisco? It's in California, right?

CHAPTER 09 / 37 Discussion

Arianna Huffington, TSA Cancer Claims on NPR

During an appearance on the KCRW program Left, Right & Center, Arianna Huffington claimed a TSA agent told her that multiple colleagues had developed cancer from airport x-ray machines. The audio clip shows the program's connection dropping immediately after the claim, which the hosts interpret as deliberate censorship by the broadcaster.

arianna huffington· npr· kcrw· tsa· x-ray machines· cancer

29:51 KCRW I think it might be one of the low one of the small PBS stations somewhere in Northern California NPR I think Oh NPR. Okay, whatever anyway, so they have this show in fact, let me is a radio clip Yeah, this is a radio clip and it's a Wow. Yeah, this is a show called left right and center. I've heard it okay, and on this is the guy Blakely who's Now, you know he used to be on the McLaughlin group right and he's got a whore dog in every hunt. Yeah. See how he does well actually it's interesting because on the site, you know, they have their financial disclosures and and all the hosts like oh I Here's what I do. I get paid for this, you know, I'm your medical course and of course people don't give a crap about the disclosure. However, Arianna Huffington

30:36 is also on this program. She's one of the four hosts of the show and I guess she couldn't make it to the studio. She was too busy counting her cash. And she says something about, something that a TSA agent said to her about x-ray machines and then notice what happens in the program and notice how they just talk right on over it. I don't want to give away because it's so good so I'm going to play it for you right now. Well again, I love to analyze that anger and it has so little to do with conservatism or not conservatism and so much to do with a sense that the government is not on people's side. So you know the conversation is about conservatism, liberalism, blah blah blah blah blah, the government isn't taking care of me. The government needs to control me! And you know there's so much evidence for that.

31:32 walking through the airport yesterday and there was this guy who was an official checker. She's trying to come up with TSA but smoke's coming out of her ears. An official checker. Yeah, okay. To the security line. And he stopped me and he started complaining. He liked what I'm saying, so I presume he's a liberal, but he started complaining about government and they're not taking care of it he said that promise eight of my friends have got cancer from this from this machine that promise to have to give us a way to track how much cancer radiation is coming out but the government has done nothing and he kept no I think we lost ariana there Bob you want to pick it up so she says something amazing which is that the TSA guys are getting cancer from the x-ray machines they cut her off

32:25 I mean, listen to the delay between when she's cut off. And when he says, oh we lost her, it's like a nanosecond. Meanwhile you can imagine a producer in the background doing the cutting the throat motion. Exactly. And then listen, so he says, let's pick up on that here in the studio, what do you think? Arianna, I think the problem is not one of, well it's anti-incumbency only in the sense that the incumbents have betrayed us. So it doesn't say a damn thing about TSA agents getting cancer from the machines. Not a damn thing. Just continues right on. They cut her off! They- it's... Clearly! Clearly! Oh, shh! Oh, no she didn't! She was- no she didn't talk about- oh! Cut her off! Cut her off! Gone.

33:10 Well, she won't be back either. I just thought that was an outrageous clip. And she doesn't even understand what she's saying. She doesn't even understand. She's so wrapped up in herself. She doesn't understand the importance that these machines are causing cancer. They probably are. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I've seen no evidence of that, but it wouldn't surprise me. I mean, you're sitting near an x-ray machine all day long. And you know, day after day, week after week, month after month, you gotta be getting some... The thing's got what? Your suitcase goes in, there's a couple of flaps laying there.

33:46 The thing is zapping the crap out of everything and they push the high energy button to take an even closer look. This guy starts bouncing all over the place. Now you got that new machine, the Miller Wave thing. You know, there's evidence that those particular waves cause cataracts. It's gotta be bouncing all over the damn place. So I just thought that was fun to listen to how your national treasure censors at will. Well, they probably lost the connection because... Yeah, all right. She's on for half an hour and then all of a sudden she says something interesting and then... Yeah, and then they don't even address that part. That's what's very funny. Well, they have an agenda. In fact, I have a couple of clips. Speaking of agendas...

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Tavis Smiley, Isabel Allende Racism Controversy

Novelist Isabel Allende appeared on Tavis Smiley's PBS show and claimed that historical accounts are always written by white men and lack interesting voices. The hosts criticize these comments as blatantly racist and attack Smiley for failing to challenge the assertion that history is exclusively a male, white domain.

tavis smiley· isabel allende· pbs· racism· historical fiction· cultural anthropology

34:35 By the way, you know, I'm still working on the educational information that will... it's kind of like a feature when we get around to it. Yeah, when your book comes out. When the book comes out. Any minute. We've been talking about your book for two and a half years, dude. There's no book. The book is done. Yeah, I know. Just needs organization. So let's see here, we've got a couple of clips that are kind of just showing the public broadcasting, kind of the inherent racism that they don't even know themselves that they're doing. So let's play the beginning part of this whole ridiculous little Interview with the with the guy who I've always found to be weird because I don't even know where he came from he's been all over PBS Tavis Smiley if that is indeed his real name Who has this very strange accent that I can never identify and he's kind of a

35:33 In this case, he's kind of stammers a little bit more than he normally does and I'm wondering why that is. And he's interviewing this novelist named Isabel Allende who sounds like just a terrible person and obviously a racist if you listen to this clip here which is the Tavis Smiley Allende racism clip. When you unearth the backstory of a true story like the birth of New Orleans, like the slave revolt in Haiti. Like what? The revolt in Haiti?

36:09 Yeah, she has this novel where the Dominican Republic and Haiti, they had a slave revolt and they took over the place. Oh, right, yeah, of course. And I guess a bunch of people went to New Orleans and were... I don't know. I have to read this. So she made it all up. I mean, she's got some facts, but it's done as a novel, so who knows what's going on. Were you ever at any point tempted to not write fiction? But to write nonfiction? On the contrary. I love fiction because in fiction you go into the thoughts of people, the little people, the people who were defeated, the poor, the women, the children that are never in history books. If you write nonfiction, a historical account of what really happened, first of all it's always white men who do that.

37:02 You don't have the voices that are really interesting to me of the people who are not sheltered by the big umbrella of the establishment Everything everything, you know if you write what really happened she says which I think is the telling line what really happened on i don't want to write what really have now we're gonna make it out of a make it up and as the white guys always eyes and i was saying the white white man bad yes this is kind of news and out now racist comment that's quite a bit is up on and he should be ashamed of himself he hangs out with fair con a bunch of these other characters and there was something that is obviously blatantly racist is brought up on his show he like plays along and have clipped number two coming up

37:44 Racism too. Yep nonfiction a historical account of what really happened first of all it's always white men who do that and You don't have the voices. That's that just really bothers me. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's really that's a bothersome thing I'm Interesting to me of the people who are not sheltered by the big umbrella of the establishment What does it say about? the way we teach history, about our literature more broadly, that your point is true. that because history is told through the voices of white men, there's so many other voices that get lost. And for us, oftentimes, to get those voices, we have to rely on fiction, of all things. How fascinating is that? It is fascinating, but it's really everywhere is the same. Now, of course, we have black historians, but they're usually men. And we get the perspective always, the slanted perspective of what has happened.

38:45 the battles, the things achieved, the loss, but where are the people, the families? What happens inside the houses, inside the minds and the hearts? And that's what I'm interested in. Here's a loaded and impossible question at the same time. How might our read of history be different were we to hear the voices of the women and the children and the others that have been historically left out? I think it changes completely. And now we are living in a time when that is possible because we have all the technology to record things in the streets. What a crock of crap! By the way, what she's talking about is cultural anthropology, which is being executed left and right, and not all historians are men, by any means. And every female historian who listens to this sort of thing should be up in arms about it.

39:42 And by the way, history is a study of quote-unquote history, not about some dreaming up what people are thinking when you don't really know. You don't know what's in their brains when you're a fiction writer. You're just making a story that's compelling for people to read. This woman is sickening. Yeah, this whole white man, that's starting to bug me a little bit. When it's so blatantly obvious and Tavis Smiley says nothing about it. Who gives a crap about him? He's on board. Yeah, who cares about him? Well, a lot of people watch that show. What's it on? PBS? Oh yeah. The National Treasure. Another National Treasure. A National Racist Treasure. A National Racist Treasure. That's pretty bad, man. Yeah, I thought I'd liven things up for show 200.

CHAPTER 11 / 37 Discussion

Christina Curry, The New Uri Geller Reality Show

Adam Curry's daughter, Christina, appeared as a celebrity guest on a Dutch reality show featuring Uri Geller. She reportedly faked an emotional reaction to a "psychic" reading to satisfy the show's producers, highlighting the staged nature of such elimination programs.

christina curry· uri geller· reality tv· netherlands· psychic

40:38 Let me catch everybody up on the, you know, I keep wanting to not do it, but I just can't stop with the planes bad trains good. You promised two shows ago. I know it's impossible. So, you know, my daughter is in Gitmo Nation Lowlands. By the way, she did the Yuri, there's a show called the New Yuri Geller. You know who Uri Geller is, right? And the show is not... I think that was the big finale. It's basically a reality elimination show and they're trying to find the next Uri Geller and Uri Geller is the judge. And it's pretty bad. And so they have all these jabronis who come on and do crazy stuff. And so they asked my daughter to be a celebrity to have some crazy stuff done to her.

41:23 And this was great. And the guy is like, okay, Christina, he's going to put her in trance, right? And she's like, dad, I was totally faking all this. Listen, it's like, okay, you've had a tough year. I can feel it. Like, yeah, like it wasn't in the press. And I feel that mom and dad are getting divorced. I feel like, I feel like, yes, I can feel like you felt alone and you didn't want to eat. Like yeah, it's all been in the press like this guy is just basically read some gossip magazines, but she did a great job She had tears rolling down her cheek and you know the guy like then a pearl comes out of his eye or something Oh, I cry pearls whatever she was crying. She is Meryl Streep jr. Oh, she's amazing. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She's great. Well, she got paid So we should mention the people out there that

42:10 a lot of actors can cry on cue. Mickey can do it too. So my my... Let me finish the story. I'm just gonna say don't date an actress. Are you kidding? I have 25 women here. That's awesome. So you know I have a car to pick her up when she gets back to the UK and she texts me this morning says, now dad can you have a pick me up at at Pancreas Station? Because looks like besides there being a British Airways strike the ash cloud is coming back again Conveniently timed with the British Airways strike. I might I might add and the airports are gonna be closed Monday They already know that so she's taking the train back. So of course, I'm like, oh brother All right. So what's going on with trains and then there's this whole this this British Airways strike is pretty amazing we got an email from

CHAPTER 12 / 37 Discussion

British Airways Strike, High-Speed Rail Agenda

A strike by British Airways cabin crew is analyzed as a potential move to intentionally disrupt air travel in favor of upcoming high-speed rail projects. Reports from crew members suggest that many employees did not actually vote for the strike, leading to suspicions of union or government interference.

british airways· heathrow· high-speed rail· strike· cabin crew

43:08 one of our producers in the United Kingdom from Simon he says you know I live with three cabin crew that work for British Airways and none of these people want to go on strike in fact in there was a strike in December or January everyone as far as he knows everyone and his crew mates everyone voted against it and they still went on strike so there's something very weird particularly now we know the new government is going to never allow a third runway at Heathrow no more expansion of Gatwick, that they're going to bring in the high-speed rail guaranteed. And there's just, you know, clip after clip of, and it's all in the show notes at noagendashow.com, of British Airways personnel going, we don't want to go on strike, this is not about money, we feel reasonably paid, we don't want to lose our jobs, in fact we're afraid that we're gonna get squeezed out, they'll bring in lower paid employees, maybe just to get rid of us.

44:06 But I'm pretty sure it's connected somehow to just getting rid of air travel altogether. And then over the weekend, our president, I think it was the weekend, was it Friday? Was in Buffalo. And there's two clips I gotta play after another. So he's in Buffalo and a guy gets up, obvious shill. Yeah, are we gonna get any high-speed transportation here in Buffalo? Well, not only does the president answer the way you'd expect, but he throws in something we hadn't heard in a public setting before. So I've got time for a couple of questions. I've got his question too. It was hard to get an audio clip, so I had to get it off of someone who recorded it off a TV. You've got a decent voice. I actually have. You have the clip? I don't have this clip, I have the speech, but I'd have to go dig the clip. No, that's okay, we'll get to it.

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Barack Obama in Buffalo, High-Speed Rail Security

President Barack Obama visited Buffalo, New York, to promote high-speed rail, promising that passengers would not have to remove their shoes for security. This is contrasted with a CNN report aired the same day claiming American Al-Qaeda cells are targeting commuter railroads like the Long Island Railroad, suggesting a future expansion of TSA-style security to trains.

barack obama· buffalo· high-speed rail· al-qaeda· tsa· long island railroad

43:08 one of our producers in the United Kingdom from Simon he says you know I live with three cabin crew that work for British Airways and none of these people want to go on strike in fact in there was a strike in December or January everyone as far as he knows everyone and his crew mates everyone voted against it and they still went on strike so there's something very weird particularly now we know the new government is going to never allow a third runway at Heathrow no more expansion of Gatwick, that they're going to bring in the high-speed rail guaranteed. And there's just, you know, clip after clip of, and it's all in the show notes at noagendashow.com, of British Airways personnel going, we don't want to go on strike, this is not about money, we feel reasonably paid, we don't want to lose our jobs, in fact we're afraid that we're gonna get squeezed out, they'll bring in lower paid employees, maybe just to get rid of us.

44:06 But I'm pretty sure it's connected somehow to just getting rid of air travel altogether. And then over the weekend, our president, I think it was the weekend, was it Friday? Was in Buffalo. And there's two clips I gotta play after another. So he's in Buffalo and a guy gets up, obvious shill. Yeah, are we gonna get any high-speed transportation here in Buffalo? Well, not only does the president answer the way you'd expect, but he throws in something we hadn't heard in a public setting before. So I've got time for a couple of questions. I've got his question too. It was hard to get an audio clip, so I had to get it off of someone who recorded it off a TV. You've got a decent voice. I actually have. You have the clip? I don't have this clip, I have the speech, but I'd have to go dig the clip. No, that's okay, we'll get to it.

45:03 My question is, during your term of office, will Buffalo see the transit system improvement for this country arrive here in Buffalo? Well, you know, it's a great question and I know that, uh, you know, the issue of infrastructure and transit transportation is big here, but it's big all across the country. Answer the question. The program that we put forward had one of the biggest investments in infrastructure since Eisenhower started the interstate highway system. But the backlog of work and projects that need to be done is so big that it's going to be a multi-year process that we've got to embark on. My hope is that Democrats and Republicans working together are going to be able to find a long-term financing mechanism and that we start investing

46:01 not just in highways but also in mass transit. Now, I want you to listen to two things. First, he's going to tell you how great it's going to be in all these places that really need trains connecting them. High-speed rail and especially along the Eastern Corridor and say where I'm from, Chicago, where you've got Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis, Indianapolis, you've got all these cities that are pretty close by Which of course there's no evidence of, but here it comes.

46:50 There we go. We already have this clip, but he's this is the first time He's saying it in public and then I want to play this clip right after it from CNN which was on the same day after the president says you won't have to take off your shoes and We have CNN's American Al-Qaeda. American citizens radicalizing, eager to kill their countrymen. Venus is the terrorist next door. The American Al-Qaeda. Now, what are the Al-Qaeda gonna do? Who do they wanna kill? How are they gonna do it? You don't have to take off your shoes, slave!

47:30 Al-Qaeda's target, the busiest commuter railroad in the United States. The Long Island Railroad in New York. So how do we harmonize that? The terrorists are going to hit the railroads. The American Al-Qaeda is going to hit the railroad. They're setting us up now. Somebody has screwed the hooch when it comes to getting the message normalized between the government and CNN. this is just nuts. You guys were supposed to produce the show on homegrown terrorism. You were not supposed to. Did you forget the memo? You're not supposed to attack the trains, you idiots. We've got to keep this clip, this Obama clip, because now this was public. The other one was a private little ceremony. We've got to keep this because the minute we have to start taking our shoes off before getting... It's going to be take your shoes off, put your depends on.

48:26 When that happens, we're going to be playing this clip over and over again. Because it's going to happen. Of course you're going to have to take your shoes off. We'll have all kinds of security. It could be a shoe bomber, you know, a train shoe bomber. But the president said it. He said you won't have to take your shoes off at all, ever! You can take that to the bank. Well, he said a lot of stuff that he hasn't followed up on. And I listened to that Buffalo speech, I actually was going to put that in the clips today. The beginning of that speech is like, you know, he's still just like he's on the campaign trail. I mean, it's just it's just horrible. I mean, I'm surprised people can even want to listen to him speak because it's he's got that cadence that gets on your nerves and it's always like he's a cheerleader. He's worse than Bush. Bush was a cheerleader. This guy is a wannabe. And then, of course, the only news that comes out of this whole speech

49:12 in Buffalo is he stopped at a diner to get some buffalo wings and he gives them a huge plug which I think is questionable and you saw the clip of it he's in there saying no no no you know you I can't you can't pay for it I have to pay for it and he brings out his wallet and pays for it because he'd get thrown in jail if they give him a free buffalo wing. So Luann Haley comes up to the president and says, you're a hottie with a smoking little body. And then Obama says, oh man, watch out, Michelle's going to get on your case. And then she says, that's all right. Hi, Michelle, eat your heart out. This is a part of the cheat gene setup.

49:56 Yeah, but he's received the vaccine nothing to see here Real news It's got it all It is however interesting to note that this wings restaurant is located right next to the educate to a building where a lot of people from the Department of Education are located That was just kind of offhandedly mentioned in a report So maybe that had something to do with it. I don't know. But yeah, totally nothing to see here. And that's all the news reports on. They don't talk about anything else. All it is is... They talk about the woman who complimented Obama for being a hottie. Oh yeah, with hot... Kind of coverage, who cares? I love it. By the way, I picked up an interesting little thing just as an aside. If you got my clips, I got a little interesting one that says soap opera. Tell me that you're not hearing a message in there. Because you don't want to think about being alone. You're right.

CHAPTER 14 / 37 Discussion

Soap Opera "In the Morning" Clip

A brief clip from a soap opera is played where a character uses the phrase "in the morning," which the hosts find amusing as it mirrors their own show's catchphrase.

soap opera· in the morning· media clip· catchphrase

50:57 I wish I could stop thinking about it even for a second, but everything I do reminds me of Brad. Taping the show, visiting family, looking at my son. It starts in the morning when I wake up. Yeah, we message received I Love it. What was that from? I know one world watching Dvorak I was just flipping around and I said I was watching this looking to get some sort of a like I fear there may be a clip possibility and she drops the in the morning bomb That's something it's beautiful. I don't it's it's crazy. This is I don't know how we do it I don't know how we do it

CHAPTER 15 / 37 Discussion

Financial Reform Act, Federal Reserve Empowerment

President Obama's weekly address regarding the Financial Reform Act is characterized as a power grab for the Federal Reserve. The hosts argue that the bill empowers the same bankers who caused the recession to oversee themselves, rather than providing the consumer protections the President claims.

barack obama· financial reform act· federal reserve· wall street· banking· consumer protection

51:39 It's definitely out there. So the president In his weekly address replicated almost word for word by the way, I mean, of course the words are different But the whole meme is the same in his In I'm sorry, it's our presidential address our weekly radio chat, which he does I you know, I miss it I got the guy caught the only the end of it where the Republican was blasting him. Well, no, no, this is this is his his weekly radio chat and Which of course is a YouTube video where he always pushes the agenda. So you just gotta watch it. It comes out on Saturday. So you know what's going on, right? So we played the one when it was about passing health care. Now it is the Financial Reform Act, which is the new health care, which I have read and I am just calling the Federal Reserve Empowerment Act.

52:28 Because essentially the Federal Reserve will be overseeing the banks. So they're already a commercial institute of banks. Yes, they've been outsourced by the United States government, but they are the banks. Who's on the Board of Governors? The bankers. So the bankers will be watching the bankers and they basically get all the power. And when you read this, that's all that the Act is about. But, and this actually leads into an interesting little commercial slash meme. But I just want you to listen for a second about the lies that the president is spewing that it's going to protect the consumer.

53:08 And I want to remind you that we passed this health care bill and I have yet to see one person being interviewed anywhere and by God there's enough people who were supposed to have been saved and forever helped. But I don't see anyone jumping up and down saying, yeah, I got health care. You don't see it. All you see is experts talking about how great it is, but you don't see any citizens. So this is now the next health care the president will be pushing as more power comes into the hands of, in this case, the bankers. And I'll continue working hard to make sure that happens. But my responsibility as president isn't just to help our economy rebound from this recession. It's to make sure an economic crisis like the one that helped trigger this recession never happens again.

53:52 That's what Wall Street reform will help us do. In recent weeks, there's been a lot of back and forth about the reform bill currently making its way through Congress. There's been a lot of discussion about technical aspects of the bill and a lot of heated and frankly sometimes misleading rhetoric coming from opponents of reform. See, it's always the same. And I've never heard the president actually say this before, I don't think. He's always saying, oh, people are lying. Other people are lying. It's misleading. I don't like it. It doesn't stand for good leadership. He does it too much. Yeah, and good leadership doesn't need that, and quite frankly, if what you're saying is true, you don't need to even dispute that. You just lay out the facts, which he doesn't do. All of this has helped obscure what reform would actually mean for you, the American people.

54:39 So I just wanted to take a few minutes to talk about why every American has a stake in Wall Street reform. First and foremost, you have a stake in it if you've ever been treated unfairly by a credit card company, misled by pages and pages of fine print, or ended up paying fees and penalties you'd never heard of before. So this is like the credit card protection consumer thing that they've been talking about, which of course is still yet to be implemented. And meanwhile, credit card interests are what, 27, 28% still? There's nothing going to change there. And it's very little in this bill about that. And you have a stake in it if you've ever tried to take out a home loan, a car loan, or a student loan and been targeted by the predatory practices of unscrupulous lenders.

55:24 The Wall Street Reform Bill in Congress represents the strongest consumer financial protections in history. Okay, so I don't have to play anymore, I just wanted you to hear it to understand it's bullshit. That is not in this bill, it's online and still it's a proposal, it's not the actual bill. And you read it, it's like it's all about the Federal Reserve overseeing the big former investment banks, who of course now have become holding banks. who can get federal money. It's all about giving power to the Federal Reserve. The Board of Governors is on every other article. So this is, of course, we need to spread this meme now just like we did with health care. So now the banks got to get on board and they've got to start propagating the message. This is a commercial from Citizens Bank, which is a great name because I think they're anything but a small community bank. Is that true, John?

CHAPTER 16 / 37 Discussion

Citizens Bank "Good Citizenship" Commercial

A commercial for Citizens Bank is deconstructed for its messaging that equates banking with "good citizenship." The ad features actors dressed as founding fathers and suggests that depositing money is a civic duty to fund other people's mortgages and businesses.

citizens bank· advertising· banking· citizenship· mortgages

56:17 I don't know the size of them, but it sounds to me as though they're probably a monster. Yeah. And so what you see is a bunch of people who are citizens and they're in kind of like a courtroom setting, although it's not really a courtroom, but kind of like a courtroom bleacher, like they're the audience in a trial case and there's someone standing in front of them and they switch back and forth between a couple of guys in white wigs who are supposed to look like our founding fathers. And the message is give us your cash. Here we go. We all agree on one thing, that our country was founded on citizenship. Citizenship. Dad, what's citizenship? Oh, by the way, there's a little kid who keeps asking, Dad, what does this mean? What does that mean? What is citizenship?

57:07 A system of rights and responsibilities. Banking. Banking. Banking. Everybody carries their weight. Business and banking. Banking is part of the idea. I put money in the bank. The bank lends to me. The bank lends to me. One man's savings is another man's mortgage. Is another woman's mortgage. A new factory. Daycare center. College loans. Expansion. Growth. What's growth? It's jobs. Shared prosperity. Yeah! That's what a bank is supposed to be, a facilitator of prosperity. One of us. That's the idea, right? That's how the forefathers saw it. Yes! It's simple. Good banking is good citizenship. Good citizenship is good business. Yes! Go, forefathers.

57:52 And then it ends with it. Wait a minute, this is more of an indictment of the educational system. Dad, what's growth? But I love this. Banking is good citizenship. Give us your cash. Just put your cash. You gotta send me that clip because I gotta get those guys yelling yes. We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. It's amazing. John, you have to put your money in the bank because that's someone else's mortgage. That's someone else's small business loan. That's not how banks work. Well, they did back in the 1800s. Yeah, of course, of course. But it's like, whoa. You sit there and you watch that and you go like, okay.

58:35 Just give us all your money Please be a good so I like the structure of the commercial with the guys yelling Yes, and if you don't watch the commercial just listen to it. It's really got a nice structure except for the idiot kid Who may who's distracting because he comes in and he asks the stupidest dad what's growth? It's like shut up kid. Are you that stupid? Now if we are if we actually go back to the president's Radio chat They're about to screw the community banks, which is the thing that I got really worried about. You'll be empowered with the clear and concise information you need to make the choices that are best for you. We'll help stop predatory practices and curb unscrupulous lenders, helping secure your family's financial future. That's why families have a stake in it, and our community banks also have a stake in reform.

CHAPTER 17 / 37 Discussion

Honey Bunches of Oats, Pristiq Ad Contrast

The hosts play a high-energy commercial for Honey Bunches of Oats cereal, noting its effective rhythmic structure. The clip ends with a jarring transition into a somber advertisement for the antidepressant Pristiq, highlighting the stark contrast in television marketing.

honey bunches of oats· pristiq· advertising· antidepressants· commercials

59:31 These are banks we count on to provide the capital that lets our small businesses hire and grow. The way the system is currently set up, these banks are at a disadvantage because while they often play by the rules, many of their less scrupulous competitors are not playing by the rules. So that's just double speak for we're coming after you, community banks. That's the way I read it. I'm not getting that, but we'll wait and see. But I'm sure they'd like to screw the community banks. They're the only banks that seem to have any... Seem to be doing it right. ...seem to have customers that like them. John, we're an hour into this program. I think we should... Well, before we do, I might as well finish off with a very light thing, which is the... because of the structure of that last commercial, I want to play the classic commercial called Honey Bunches of Oats, which is a cereal commercial, which has got all the elements, and I would hope somebody out there can do a commercial like this around our show. You know, people like to produce stuff for us.

1:00:26 because this has really got the right rhythm. Unfortunately, I left a little bit of it after this up-tempo ad, and I just caught the beginning of one of those depressing ads for some anti-depressant, Pristique or something, so it's kind of an interesting contrast, but just play this ad. Have you tried Honey Bunches of Oats yet? Every spoonful is a little different. I've got three kinds of flakes. This is delicious. It's the perfect combination of sweet and crispy. I love it. This is so good. It's great. The magic's in the mix. Depression is a... We totally went like, the magic's in the mix. But I like it was just, you know, going from one voice to another. It's so good and all the rest of it. I thought commercial was dynamite. Yeah, it's like now with more crackpot flakes. The magic is in the mix. Yeah, someone's got to do that. That's awesome. So that is, of course,

CHAPTER 18 / 37 Discussion

No Agenda Community, Audience-Built Infrastructure

The hosts discuss the "Value-for-Value" model of the show, which relies on listener donations rather than advertising. They credit the audience for building an extensive network of unofficial support tools, including search engines, toolbars, and proxies to bypass censorship.

no agenda toolbar· no agenda search· community· value-for-value· podcasting

1:01:23 A big part of how our show works and this is now episode 200 we have a different model that we've chosen for one that consists of no commercials and The donors of this program will be receiving a special link to listen to the backstage version of the show Which includes a lot about how we put it together while you put it together how we morphed and how we stumbled upon this way of doing the program not having commercials, but also not Being maniacal about copyrights and ownership and we have now an entire slew of websites that are I want to say audience, but it's more like our community we call them producers have set up a

1:02:06 around this show from the no agenda toolbar to the no agenda network the no agenda search are in the morning tea no agenda floor mats no agenda travel no agenda book club no agenda forums no agenda art no agenda karma no agenda proxy I mean the list goes on and on and by the way the no agenda proxy for you people out there who can't get to the Dvorak.org slash NA donation page go to no agenda proxy it works great You've tried it. I've tried it. It works good. Yeah, it works well so and People from time to time I think we may even have Adam Burk pile in the notes for today from time to time They'll make some money on one of their initiatives and then they'll send us some and we don't say how much we don't Say, you know, you can keep it all for out for all I care It would be nice if you you know, don't want to be a quintessential bag

1:02:59 And the system seems to be working. Now, it's growing, it's not where it needs to be yet, but once again this week we've had a lot of people help us out and we appreciate the support. Yes, and we have some good support and of course we have a lot of support for the Deuce Club and a few people coming in late on the Tunicles on the Dime which we'll mention here. And we will talk about them with great admiration. They also post a Deuce Club page which will be all discussed on the 200.5 show. Everyone who's on the list to get the link, we will have a link

CHAPTER 19 / 37 Discussion

Donor Acknowledgments, No Agenda Karma Story

The hosts read a list of recent donors and share a story from the "Karma Club" about a listener in Ecuador who met a woman from Sweden after recognizing the No Agenda album art on her iPod. The segment also includes birthday shout-outs for listeners and their family members.

donations· ecuador· sweden· karma club· birthdays

1:03:38 to the 200.5 club sent to you by email today, late today. I gotta update the mailing list before we do it. So open your mail this time, because only half the time we send a mailing out, only about half the people ever open it. Because that'll be the link, then you can just click on it and you can listen to the show there. We'll have a direct link and a link to where it's hidden. But let's thank some people for this week's show besides our producers, our executive producers. We got Steven Staff from Conklin, New York who gave us $198. Brian Cuthbertson, Brisbane, Australia $150.

1:04:20 uh... steven uh... staff conklin new york uh... one forty four ninety uh... i'm worried that somebody here to send me a special note separately that once there's something else asked uh... brian cutverts and brisbane okay steven said that dean is a naughty uh... from covina and i think she has a message some place a try to get up Tammy Perry Olsen. We got women. Yeah 58 two nickels 200 episodes and 20 women She wants us to credit Eric T Olsen that he's one extended in and Tammy's his wife. Sorry what we take that back It's not a woman. It's Eric using a woman's email Stefan shown in Independence, Missouri

1:05:08 uh... to nibbles on the dime john john john marino rocky point in new york and john kelly and matthew mcdonald uh... kelly's in charlotte north carolina calgary for mcdonald all to nibbles on the dime and finally jordan why it in uh... new zealand and as a message happy two hundred that was on behalf of all the non-sanctioned fix officially unrecognized green beret contingents of the no agenda and vegans yes remember he said you know p s remember all the vegan bashing and now for our numbers we must be coughing up the big bucks uh... bart uh... burton's uh... in the is a pronounced best

1:05:52 Netherlands yes best correct is best best best he wants to actually be credited in the 200 and what first show but too late now and good job and finally somebody gave us the under the the Anonymous amount so I'm not sure whether he wants to be mentioned or not, but I want to mention this He says passes pass the note on to Adam. He's de douching himself. Oh wait a minute You've been D-douched. About yeah, how you got the guy's just did I send you this note? He's yeah, you sent me this No, we don't think we need to belabor it anymore about my my hardware. I think that I think we did enough on the previous episode You did it. I know that's what you don't need to bring it up again. That's fine. Thank you It's it and that's the end of our list. Okay. I got a couple of special other mentions in fact a couple of birthdays I

1:07:04 Hey Adam, my name is Eric Lyons. Now this is one of our $5 a month recurring donations. Of course he doesn't have his own PayPal account. His dad, Melvin Lyons, has the PayPal account. And this Sunday, May 16th, is his 23rd birthday. Hoping to get a birthday shout-out if possible. Absolutely. Congratulations. Also, happy birthday shout-out to friend and listener Mike. and call them out as a douche bag for not wanting to donate yet. This is from Dago J in the chat room. Okay, Mike. We have another... Did you get... Nadine has a birthday announcement too. That's... Read Nadine then. Nadine, she says she made the donation on behalf of her boyfriend Aaron Moreno on Sunday, May 16th. It's his birthday. So there's no better gift than this donation. Yay!

1:07:58 And then finally one more from the Karma Club and you can enter these at noagendakarma.com Adam and John says Seth plenty of stories about people getting gigs donating to the show, but I recently got laid Let me tell you the story. I was in a this is an incredible story by the way I was in a bus station Ecuador, but that's a great way to start off any story. Yeah, I remember I was in a bus station Ecuador I spotted a girl with an iPod touch I could clearly see the album art and recognize the podcast as no agenda I I was able to start a conversation with the hot blonde from Sweden who happened to be heading to the same small beach town as I was. No Agenda gave us something to talk about on the three-hour bus ride and we hit it off. We... I should do this like Casey Kasem. We exchanged in the mornings the next morning and parted ways. Thanks, Adam and John, for helping to relieve my sexual frustration. Whenever I have some spare cash, I'll throw it your way. No Agenda. It gets you laid. In the morning.

1:09:04 Do you believe that story? You know, it's a great story. I agree. Alright. Time for a couple of knighthoods. John, who do we have on deck for our knighthoods? Well, first, Mr. John Snyder. Soon to be Sir John Snyder. Yes, John Snyder, please step up and kneel. John, time to unsheath. You got it, good. John Snyder, do you hereby swear by your life and love that you will never live for the sake of another man nor ask another man to live for yours and that money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with another must deal by trade and give value for value? If you do, then we hereby knight thee, Sir John Snyder, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.

CHAPTER 20 / 37 Discussion

Knighthood Ceremony, Sir John Snyder and Sir Jordi Ramirez

John Snyder and Jordi Ramirez are formally knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable following their significant financial contributions. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony, requiring the new knights to swear an oath of self-reliance and value-for-value exchange.

knighthood· john snyder· jordi ramirez· no agenda roundtable· ceremony

1:10:00 All right, who's next? Jory a good old Jordi Ramirez Okay, I think we might want to sharpen up that one a little bit. Okay, Jordi Ramirez kneel before crackpot and buzzkill under the same vows aforementioned We hereby knight thee Sir, Jordi Ramirez Knights of the Noah gender roundtable, please step up come over here and enjoy your hookers and blow And if you're new to the program, a donation of $1,000 in aggregate gives you a knighthood and a ring. I did ping Neil, by the way, for the designs. Has he sent you anything yet?

1:10:45 No, he hasn't said anything, but if we start pestering him, he'll have to do it. Okay, because we're saying we have a manufacturer, everything else is all good to go, right? Yeah, we're pretty set. So by the way, we do have one correction, perhaps, but we're going to put it off until next week, which is Stephen's staff has actually made two donations this week, which put him over the top for the executive producer but since he put him one was 198 and another one was 144 I don't know maybe he doesn't want to be because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me so we'll just ask him and he'll be executive producer next week. Groovy. Alright and of course we have donors for the Deuce Club and they'll get the special backstage show. I guess they'll receive that today in the email or tomorrow. Yeah it'll be tonight.

CHAPTER 21 / 37 Discussion

Rainbow Clouds, Southern California Earthquake Predictions

Reports of "rainbow clouds" over Los Angeles are discussed as potential precursors to seismic activity, similar to phenomena observed before quakes in China and Chile. A clip from Luke Thomas of QuakePrediction.com is played, predicting a major earthquake in Southern California for mid-May.

rainbow clouds· earthquakes· los angeles· quakeprediction.com· luke thomas

1:11:35 And that's kind of a backstage... It's a backstage pass to the Noah's Ark show. We're going to talk about how we do the show, why we do the show, what some of our... you know, essentially what you... it's inside stuff, you know, inside baseball. We deconstruct the show, our own show. We might find that it sucks. So, something... It may be the last show. Something kind of disconcerting. This was actually for a moment there a trending topic on Twitter. Oh by the way before you go on to that don't forget to mention Dvorak.org slash NA, our donation site and Dvorak.org slash NAS for the stream and also channel Dvorak.org slash NA.

1:12:21 It's amazing how we still get donations for the lack of attention we spend on actually telling people how they can donate. Yeah, I know it's amazing. By the way, I want to mention that at midnight tonight, the Deuce Club is closed. Good. The site comes down. Good. Midnight Pacific time. So, a trending topic on Twitter for the past couple days, rainbow clouds seen over Los Angeles, similar to clouds seen before Chinese and Chilean quake. And this is the changing of the colors of the sky that we've been tracking, John. Okay, wait, hold on a second. First of all, I want to mention it's just thevorak.org slash deuce for the Deuce Club, but hold on a second. You're in LA. Yes, so I've seen him too. Oh. Hold on. Did you take a picture? You have a big fancy camera.

1:13:16 No, I didn't. I didn't. I should have done that I guess. That's kind of stupid because now you won't believe me. I don't. So there's been a lot of small quakes this past week but that's kind of normal for the region. I'm just saying that a couple days before the big one hit China and the big one hit Chile and even right before Chile and right after there were these rainbow clouds in the sky Which you know is some people are saying is a precursor to an earthquake. Yeah, it could be I mean it could be some piezoelectric thing going on who knows I'm not saying it's anything else. I'm not saying it's earthquake machine per se I'm just saying that that's it was it was even a trending topic on Twitter people were noticing this

1:14:03 And there's an interesting because I mean a whopper coming up down there I mean my Mimi's noticed a bunch of you know she followed she every day She looks at the national the geo whatever the heck it is site What you want to look at is quake prediction calm. That's the cool one to what is the what is quake prediction say? Quake what is quake prediction say well funny you ask let's have a listen Good morning, this is Luke Thomas, QuakePrediction.com. Expecting about a 7.2 to 8.2, around a 7.7 earthquake in Southern California between today, May 9th and May 15th. Most likely to happen around May 14th and 15th, but it could happen sooner. Again, a 7.2 to 8.2, about a 7.7 in Southern California. Please check the maps over at QuakePrediction.com for more details. Again, this is Luke Thomas, QuakePrediction.com. All right, there's Luke. Luke is our professional.

CHAPTER 22 / 37 Discussion

UK MP Stabbed, Polish Government Plane Crash Codes

A British Member of Parliament was stabbed during a constituent meeting, sparking a renewed debate over knife crime in the UK. Additionally, new reports suggest that the Polish government plane crash in Russia may have resulted in the compromise of sensitive NATO communication codes carried by the officials on board.

stephen timms· united kingdom· poland· russia· nato codes· assassination

1:14:56 So far he's late. Yeah, isn't it? What's the date today? It's the 16th, so he's two days late. Well, this is no good. Well, I'm just saying it could happen at any moment. Well, let's make sure we get that 200.5 show out of the way. And get it uploaded quick. And then you know if it happens tomorrow you have enough time to recover to get your gear back in place for a Thursday. There's a number of to-the-head stories that I think we need to make mention of. First one in the Gitmo Nation East in the United Kingdom. Remember the crazy member of Parliament who thought an IP address stood for intellectual property address? Yeah, he got his IP monikers mixed up. Yeah, he's like, oh the intellectual property address. Well, he got stabbed.

1:15:50 Well, I don't blame some of you. I mean, come on. Hey, buddy! Screw you! These members of Parliament hold what they call a surgery, which I had to look it up actually. A surgery is not a medical surgery, but it's where constituents can come and speak with their members of Parliament. And this 23-year-old woman apparently got upset with him, probably over that IP thing, and stabbed him in the stomach. Ow! Yeah, and So immediately of course that's never let a good crisis go to waste. That's a rekindling the knife epidemic discussion in the United Kingdom, so that was a close call there. Then there's the very interestingly the Polish two to the head story. Of course half of the Polish government wiped out in one go there and in Russia with the amazing crashing plane right before the runway.

CHAPTER 23 / 37 Discussion

Thailand Red Shirt Protests, General Khattiya Assassination

Major unrest in Bangkok, Thailand, is highlighted following the assassination of "Red Shirt" General Khattiya Sawasdiphol, who was shot by a sniper during a press interview. The hosts note that the protesters had been barricading the financial district, including Goldman Sachs offices, and call for more information on the conflict's backstory.

thailand· bangkok· red shirts· khattiya sawasdiphol· goldman sachs· assassination

1:16:50 I think we actually mentioned this and brought HP into the conversation, but now it's starting to get out there, that there might have been a whole bunch of important NATO codes and other information on the plane which you would expect a president to carry with him. And, you know, so there's a lot of talk now that the Russians may have acquired all of that due to this unfortunate accident. So, you know, launch codes, who knows what those guys have, but certainly keys to communication, etc. But that seems kind of logical if you have half the government on the plane. But then what's going on in Thailand? Did you see this assassination of the General of the Reds? Do you even know what's going on in Thailand? Well, I know all hell's breaking loose. It's not a place I'd want to visit at the moment. No.

1:17:46 And this is actually in Bangkok where all this stuff is taking place. But yesterday, was it yesterday or the day before? So they're interviewing Katia. I guess this is the general of the Reds. So these are the rebel guys. And so there's a couple of reporters around him. They have a camera there. They turn on one of those camera lights. Two seconds later, the guy gets two to the head. So they think it was actually a journalist, so of course that would probably be CIA who more than likely are behind the whole thing anyway, set him up. You know, just flip the light on, made him a nice target and then a sniper picked him off from wherever and shot him. So that's going to, I think, make things a little bit worse. Well, one of our producers from Bangkok sent in a note to me

1:18:49 And I really have to study this. I really don't understand what's going on, but I guess it's the Reds against the Yellows, whatever. But it turns out that these Reds have been barricading the entire financial district, including the offices of Goldman Sachs. It's just funny how these guys pop up wherever there's crap going on. And then the U.S. ambassador to Thailand requested a meeting with the reds and it's just it's a you know what I'm all over the map here I don't know what's going on but it's alright well we'll I know I you know what I need help on understanding this has been going on for four months by the way what yes maybe I know this is we've overlooked a story that media hasn't helped anybody zero zero so we don't so something and because of that we have to assume something's up

CHAPTER 24 / 37 Discussion

Glenn Beck, Elena Kagan and Cass Sunstein

Glenn Beck's coverage of Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan is analyzed, specifically her praise for Cass Sunstein. Sunstein is criticized for his academic papers suggesting the government should "cognitively infiltrate" conspiracy theory groups or impose taxes on those who disseminate them to "unskew" public discourse.

glenn beck· elena kagan· cass sunstein· supreme court· conspiracy theories· cognitive infiltration

1:19:46 And it won't take that long. I mean, I think it'll take us a few days to catch up kind of with the story and then a few more days to figure out what the backstory is, which is the important part. So see, this is a call for help. We need to understand. If anybody out there has a good summary, we'll take a look at it. You want to talk about the oil cabal for a second? Or do you want to go into some clip? You have so many clips. I want you to play a few and then I'll wrap up with some oil cabal. All right, a lot of these clips are pretty light-hearted. One of them is kind of interesting. I do have a Glenn Beck clip, and I thought it was interesting because he's going on about some new regulations of the... actually, he's going on about what's her name, the Kagan, and the fact that he found a quote from her talking about this using counter-information to

1:20:41 kill off dissent and and then she then he cited one of her mentors as the guy behind the idea of taxing people. Of course this is you know Beck's interpretation of it but there's some some truth to it. Taxing people who come up with conspiracy theories. Wait a minute we already have PayPal taking our money now we have to pay more? Exactly. So listen to this clip and here's what I don't want to give away the... I call the clip Glenn Beck missing the point and I'll tell you why. I'll tell you in advance of what this clip's about.

1:21:17 Glenn Beck is describing a situation as though it's some horrible thing that all Obama's gonna do and then this woman's gonna Go for and all the rest of what he's describing is already in place Elena Kagan is the nominee for Supreme Court justice of the United States the highest court in the land for those of you in other Gitmo nation quadrants Let's listen now. Why is she complaining? I This is not an isolated incident. Do you remember when the White House did their own media report on the visit by the Lady Huskies basketball team? You remember this? Here's the video. Okay? They did this whole thing, but this is a Huskies basketball. But they did cuts, they did interviews with everybody else. No one was allowed to ask a question, but it's Huskies. Now no one is allowed to ask any questions of the nominee for the Supreme Court justice. I mean, we're talking now a lifetime

1:22:12 Well, we've got to read a 1996 paper in which she wrote, quote, if there is an overabundance of an idea in the absence of direct governmental action, which there might well be when compared with some ideal state of public debate, then action disfavoring that idea might unskew rather than skew public discourse. So if there's too much dangerous Glenn Becker Rush limbaugh, or too much talk radio, action by the government can unskew things and balance out the opinion. Is this also, John, about the...

1:22:57 uh... was a cold air is doctrine yet fairness doctrine now really it's a a a a minister of there's an element of that in there but what he's describing is so humorous because this is actually been going on for years and he'd seems oblivious to the fact that the you know any can seem to bring his head around to saying that's what they're doing now and that's what obama does with when you just point out an earlier clip today you know where he's saying you know what these guys are full of crap and here's what's really going on uh... that's been going on and that's been going on for a long time and but he doesn't seem to realize that he keeps pounding home this point which is just you know off-base but very interesting or is that kept it cuz it's actually quite interesting you see that's your new supreme court nominee

1:23:41 Oh, and in a completely unrelated story, Kagan happens to be a big fan of Cass Sunstein. She said, quote, Cass Sunstein is the preeminent legal scholar of our time, the most wide-ranging, the most prolific, the most cited, and the most influential. Cass Sunstein, who I maintain, is the most dangerous man in America. well cast on scene we have talked about him john is kind of interesting because he's the guy that said we need to infiltrate all of these conspiracy groups in the tea parties they've got to bring them down from the inside and uh... right and he's probably behind the thinking with the tea party has again that beck doesn't pay attention to where they hold up the signs you know or they spit on a black guy or they do all this stuff which is obviously spit on a black guy what is that that was a spit on a black guy incident alright

1:24:31 and it's like you know what are you gonna do I go spit on a black guy that'll get some attention but these guys are not part of the Tea Party movement they are obviously infiltrators that are in there to make the Tea Party movement look like a bunch of boneheads and it's going on already but again Beck doesn't seem to to get his hands around the reality of his own situation. But you do understand that, and you know, I can't watch Glenn Beck anymore. I'm glad you do because someone has to. I only very rarely. To be honest about it, he's still a great performer. Yeah, but a key word performer because that's what he is. I mean, and he's reading from Teleprompter. He's no better than the president.

1:25:11 Anyway, let me finish off here and you'll see what I'm talking about, which I still think is hilarious. Here's Cass Sunstein on banning and taxing certain forms of speech. I know, I know, it's just more academia, but I want you to watch. What can the government do about conspiracy theories and what should it do? Send us your cash! It might ban conspiracy theories, somehow defined. Two, the government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories. Three, government might itself engage in counter speech, marshalling arguments to discredit the conspiracy theories. Gibbs. Yeah, exactly, Robert Gibbs. He's your man.

1:25:58 Four, the government might actually formally hire credible private parties to engage in counter speech. Five, the government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help. CIA. Yeah, really? It's like jokes? This has all been going on for years and this guy's making a big deal out of it? I mean, I'm thinking... That sounds like... Yeah. He's getting more. Yeah, you were thinking what? You want to think it's like either he's so naive No, he's just telling you what's what's going on. It's like CNN three years ago It's like dude news flash news flash CIA is real news flash news flash That's all that it is, but it's entertaining. You're right what she was saying. What do you got me go back to the original statement? What if a small group of leaders?

CHAPTER 25 / 37 Discussion

Arnold Schwarzenegger Commencement Speech Parody

A clip featuring Arnold Schwarzenegger's signature movie catchphrases is played as a parody of a university commencement address. The hosts joke about the Governor's reliance on buzz phrases and his high speaking fees.

arnold schwarzenegger· commencement speech· stanford· impressions

1:26:54 I think we have that. A small group of world leaders found that there was a threat to the Earth and that the only hope for the Earth would be to collapse the rich countries because the rich countries are the problem. I think we have all of this so far. And then they would collapse the system. In order to save the planet, the group would decide that the only hope was to collapse the industrialized world. Read the newspapers, is that not happening? I can't listen to it anymore. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Read the newspapers. He gets off the deep end. Play Schwarzenegger's commencement speech. I'd like to ask Governor Schwarzenegger to deliver our keynote address this morning. What university? Stanford? I don't know, just play it. Hasta la vista, baby.

1:27:55 It's not a tumor. It's not a tumor at all. Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women. I'll be back. That'll be $100,000. Good night everybody. Thanks for coming. I mean this is actually what this guy does. That's pretty good Thank you Well, you know if the guy made a great car I wish I had a career like that Yeah, he had a bunch of buzz phrases get make the check out the Schwarzenegger Arnold. Yeah, that's pretty good Wow, so I'm remember I told you on Thursday about C-SPAN all of a sudden editorializing which really freaked me out so in between programming

CHAPTER 26 / 37 Discussion

BP Oil Spill Hearings, Finger-Pointing Spectacle

President Obama criticized executives from BP, Halliburton, and Transocean for a "ridiculous spectacle" of finger-pointing during congressional hearings regarding the Deepwater Horizon disaster. The hosts argue that the media and the President misrepresented the hearings, which were actually highly scripted and focused on legal obligations rather than genuine accountability.

bp· halliburton· transocean· oil spill· gulf of mexico· barack obama

1:28:45 So they have a recorded bit of the executives from BP, Halliburton and Transocean. And this is a... it lasted about three hours, as they always say. But they started... for the first time I've ever heard this, and I wish I'd recorded it, of course I was watching on the wrong thing in the kitchen, wrong non-DVR cable box. And the voiceover said, this is where the oil executives are pointing the finger at each other. And I watched the whole thing. and there was it's it is a gross overstatement to say finger-pointing I agree what you have to do that too yeah what you have is a whole bunch of people who first of all the why are these guys they should let them run their companies they need to be running their companies doing their bit to clean up do you know let them get back to their people we don't need all of these quasi experts because everybody and when I hear congressmen and congresswomen talking about

1:29:41 Well, if the dead man switch hadn't failed in 260 spots and the blowout prevention values... It's like, what do you know? You know nothing. You just read a report. Who knows if the report is true or not? It's just a waste of time and you're certainly wasting these guys' time. And there was, yes they were careful in their answers and I don't want to defend anybody but it was not a finger pointing exercise. It was not like three hours of well it's Halliburton's fault, no it's gotta be Transocean's fault, well BP, that was not it. But this has now become a meme and the president propagated this as he walks out into the Rose Garden with his

1:30:19 administration and by the way i didn't see the e p a uh... woman there are keep seeing the pala tana was always next to the president you know so i i i clearly still national security issue and then some other nondescript people i i couldn't even recognize the million when you recognize in the pala tana but i didn't see jackson from the e p a would you think she'd be there and here's what uh... the president had to say about this That's why this legislation is important. Oh yeah, by the way, of course we've made some legislation. Also help ensure that companies like BP that are responsible for oil spills are the ones that pay for the harm caused.

1:30:56 by these oil spills. Not the taxpayers. By the way, we already paid for it because it comes from the $2.7 billion fund that was put in place from tax money specifically to deal with these types of emergencies and the only obligation BP or Transocean has is to clean up their rig, not the entire ocean. It's the law. It was put into law. It's in the show notes. This is in addition to the loans... Let me just finish his clip and then we can go on. ...interest loans that we've made available to small businesses that are suffering financial losses from the spill. Now what that has to do... yeah, jobs, whatever. Let me also say, by the way, a word here about BP and the other companies involved in this mess. I know BP is committed to pay for the response effort.

1:31:44 and we will hold them to their obligation. Just a bookmark, obligation. What is their obligation? They only have an obligation to clean up around their rig. I have to say though, I did not appreciate what I considered to be a ridiculous spectacle during the congressional hearings into this matter. You had executives of BP and Transocean and Halliburton falling over each other to point the finger of blame at somebody else. Okay. bull. Yeah, it's bogus. Bull, it's bull. It's just he didn't watch it. He didn't watch it. He didn't watch it. And you know what? There is no video of anyone saying, because I watched the whole thing, you know? In fact, I got one interesting little another. Hold on a second.

CHAPTER 27 / 37 Discussion

Oil Industry Scams, Inventory and Price Manipulation

The hosts propose that the Gulf oil spill is being used as a pretext to shut down smaller drilling competitors and manipulate global oil inventories. They argue that the oil industry operates on long-term cycles of building and popping price bubbles, with major players like Goldman Sachs profiting from the volatility while insurance covers the costs of disasters.

oil prices· goldman sachs· inventory· refineries· insurance· deepwater horizon

1:32:32 So I want your tidbit in a second, but I just want to say a couple things because I have insiders working with me on this. We also have Mr. Oil in the chat room who a lot of people are conversing with and he knows a lot about what's going on. And the couple things first of all American companies may be stopped from drilling but not foreign companies. In fact, they are expanding what they were doing in the Gulf. This is a move, and after you do your ditty I'm going to wrap it all up with a global overview. But this is a move to squeeze smaller companies out.

1:33:10 Now they've also changed the the rules on insurance So you'll be able to get you won't be able to get as much insurance as you used to As an oil operator to for cleanup and by the way, the insurance is paying for all of this All of it is insured BP doesn't have to pull a single dime out of its pocket nor does trans ocean or Halliburton other than what they already pay in premiums for insurance It's all taken care of We're bringing in all kinds of memes and it's part of a 60-year plan which is ongoing, which I'll talk about after you bring in your, I think, pretty interesting analysis. Well, there's a couple things. First of all, let's do a little reading between the lines and see if you can find the buzzword used in this back and forth between the CEO of BP America

1:34:00 who's the CEO of just a division really, and the senator from Washington state Cantwell. And tell me if you kind of notice one word cropping up over and over and over again which is a weasel word, meaning that there basically is nothing's going to come of anything but just play this back and forth. And both parties. In other words, the US government and BP is almost like they're reading from the same script. Uh-huh. Oh yeah. The same script and it's a little neuro-linguistic action going on. It literally was just last year that the last parts of the Exxon Valdez cleanup were settled. I mean, it was a 20-year process, went all the way to the Supreme Court. So, Mr. McKay, are you saying you're going to avoid that by paying legitimate claims in advance? I know you can't stop anybody from suing you, but are you saying you're going to pay legitimate claims in advance of any court process?

1:34:56 We are paying legitimate claims right now, so yes I am. Obviously we can't keep from being sued, but yes, we have said exactly what we mean. We're going to pay the legitimate claims. Okay, so if it's a legitimate claim, a harm to the fishing industry, both short term and long term, you're going to pay? We're gonna pay all legitimate claims. If it's an impact for business loss from tourism, you're going to pay. We're gonna pay all legitimate claims. To state and local governments for lost tax revenue, you're going to pay. Question mark. Long-term damages to the Louisiana fishing industry and its brand. I can't quantify or speculate on long-term. I don't know how to define it. Additional troubles from depleted fisheries and their recovery.

1:35:46 We're going to pay all legitimate claims. Shipping impacts? Legitimate claims. Impacts on further drilling operations? I'm talking about things now that were part of the Exxon Valdez. So I guess what I'm saying is I think the American people are most anxious about this. You know, John, I couldn't pick up on it. What was the repetitive word? It was hard to catch. Yeah, this is it. It's the same thing as the pre- you are so right. It's the same script. Obligations, as the president said, and legitimate claims. This was all set out. Clinton, I believe, actually set this in motion. This is all, it's all been determined. What a legitimate claim is, there's a cap on these legitimate claims. You're right, it is completely all set up according to a script.

1:36:46 And they're both reading from it. Now, did you want to do something about the dead zone or do I just go into my overview? John? Oh boy. Well, that's weird. Did I lose John? Hey now, hold on a second. Doesn't happen often. Of course we don't have to wait as long as we used to. Hello? Yeah, what happened there? That was weird. Yeah, you said the word Clinton and then you got, and you hung up on me. I did not. I did not. Repeat. Did not hang up.

1:37:30 That's weird. All right. Anyway, let me go over a couple of notes here. One, of course, you know, saying, yeah, we'll pay all legitimate claims and all you do as a person or a company to say it's not a legitimate claim. I mean, who's defining legitimate claims? A B, this thing is. This is what you missed when we got disconnected. Legitimate claims has been predetermined as by the law. Remember we talked about this. I'll bring up the show notes from last week while you're talking You can read this online the amounts the the caps on the legitimate claims. It's all been predetermined These guys are not gonna pull a single penny out of their pocket. It's all it's all it's all taken care of it's all bogus but the thing that's interesting to me is on the certain questions that he didn't answer like he said question right there and

CHAPTER 28 / 37 Discussion

Global Oil Power, Peak Oil Skepticism

The theory of "Peak Oil" is dismissed as a scam designed to maintain high prices, with the hosts suggesting that oil may be a continuously regenerating biological process. They assert that the global economy remains fundamentally oil-based and that green energy initiatives are currently insufficient to replace petroleum's role in manufacturing and transport.

peak oil· petroleum· bacteria· solar energy· wind energy· global economy

1:38:14 You get the sense that, wait a minute, this woman's trying to trick me. Maybe there's something more to this script and I don't know about it. I better not answer that one. Right. Well, and also, yeah, it wasn't a legitimate claim question. No, it was something vague. So therefore you don't have to answer it. I'm pulling up the... It's a scam! Well, here... yes it is. And let me tell you what the scam is. And this is something that as I was talking to some of my insiders over the past few days, all of a sudden it dawned on me. So, what you have to understand is that oil is not continuously being pumped out of the earth and into refineries and being shipped around the world 24-7. This is the big mistake that we don't understand.

1:39:08 The oil that is being sold today was probably purchased for 45 to 50 dollars a barrel and you have to look at the Inventory levels if you really want to understand what's going on. There's been going on for 50 60 maybe even longer than maybe a hundred years This scam has been going on and it's it's a it's a build it up and then pop the bubble build it up and pop the bubble and So what's happening right now is everyone's holding on to their oil. They're putting it in, I think we've talked about this, they're putting it into tankers, they're getting rid of it, right? They're dumping it, they're putting it everywhere they can. This is why we see tanks need to be built in Haiti. In fact, the Canary Islands, now the refinery there was just sold. A bunch of guys moving in. We've talked about this, so they don't need to turn on the earthquake machine. I guess they did it with cash, they just bought it.

1:40:05 They're going to, which is another really important shipping route, so they're going to have a lot of oil and petroleum products stored there. It's all going to be stored. And then we're going to see all of these things, we have to turn off wells, we can't drill off the Gulf Coast. Maybe we'll do a rolling blackout or two in maybe California, that would be fun. Or maybe we'll strand a couple of people. You watch how quick people want their oil again. And then the price within six months will go up again because there's no inventory, we've got no oil, we have nothing. Well you turned it all off, we're going to have another crisis. Someone will have another thing, we have to shut down some wells.

1:40:46 And then these guys who have this $45 to $50 barrel oil, they're going to pop it open and say, oh, here it is. And they're going to sell it for $100. And then they'll start all over again. This is what's been happening for decades. Well, this happened during that run-up where Goldman Sachs told everyone the price of oil was going to go to $200, and then it collapsed and went down to $40. Sure, well, everyone makes money on the way in their own way, and Goldman Sachs is a huge trader in oil commodities. But I think what's interesting when I step back and I watch all this, John, and I see everyone talking about, oh, now we've got the new climate change bill, it's all a part of helping the oil

1:41:28 the truth i think the oil people really run the earth now that i can you know it's not just i'm totally convinced of it and you know that i have another can i only have one crackpot theory but i think it should be considered i don't think i i've always felt that the peak oil thing was all part of some giant scam because there was about four five years ago somebody dis discovered that uh... that there are bacteria that that are around that can actually produce pools of oil in a very short period of time yeah the earth is had the you know the idea that the dinosaurs died and that's our oil and that's it i think you're right i mean the other it is quite possibly a continuous process and the whole system our whole global economic system is really so oil-based that if we don't realize that that's what it that's what everything's about including the global warming crap and everything in between and it's all about oil and the people that we know that are in the oil business and

1:42:23 the defect the entire economic hitman book is nothing about all it's all about oil and minerals which is early or is everybody's in a was about us between the two of us we have to beg these oil people to get sent us some cash once in a while but the fact of the matter is i think that the oil uh... industry and is just runs everything. And this is what people have been kind of tricked and mind-controlled into thinking that we actually can do something with solar and wind. Yeah, but it'll take 75 years to get the infrastructure in place, to get everything running efficiently enough. I mean, we are an oil-based world. That's just it. You

1:43:03 can't It's just the way it is. Plastic, everything is petroleum-based. Paint. Everything, the whole world is based on oil and the only thing that it's contributing to with all of these quasi initiatives is to prop up, create these bubbles of oil and make these people richer. Look at the Russians. You actually sent me a Wikipedia link to one of these dudes.

CHAPTER 29 / 37 Discussion

Mikhail Prokhorov, Russian Oligarchs and Hill & Knowlton

Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov, owner of the New Jersey Nets, is discussed following a profile on 60 Minutes. The hosts highlight that he is represented by the PR firm Hill & Knowlton, which previously managed the public image of the tobacco industry and is currently involved in climate change messaging.

mikhail prokhorov· russian oligarchs· 60 minutes· hill & knowlton· tobacco industry

1:43:39 That's his name. Yeah, the guy this guy I You know the reason I came up with his name and I sent you a wiki I can't remember his name He's a guy who owns the New Jersey Nets. He's a big Russian character who they had a big special on him on 60 minutes Why would they have a special because the guy owns 60 minutes these people own everything and so I did the reason I got the guy's name and you know he's on 60 minutes they praised him and he's in now he's gonna try to get LeBron James a play for the New Jersey team and he's getting all these different he's lavishing money he's known for being a partier and he's like he's like worth 14 billion dollars within just a couple of years I mean when he I mean he's been around for a while but he all of a sudden becomes a super-rich Russian and it's always suspect and but a ding he is personally handled by Hill and Nolten yeah

1:44:27 I know Mikhail Prokhorov is his name. And if you... Hill and Knowlton handles... Here's my favorite, here's the things I always consider. Hill and Knowlton handled the tobacco industry and kept them above, you know, until they dropped them. Until Hill and Knowlton left, tobacco was doing just fine. I mean killing people. But you know, I guess they couldn't pay the bills to Hill and Knowlton so they bailed out and then the next thing you know they're in trouble and you have to pay a dollar for a cigarette. Hill and Knowlton's also behind the global warming scam. So if you've ever been to, if you've ever been anywhere where there are yachts,

1:45:04 And I've been on a yacht or two in my life. And these yachts, it's like a hundred, and by the way, I didn't pay for it myself. You know, you can have sleep 20 people on it and it's like $100,000 a week to rent. And you're like, wow, I'm living the life here. And this thing poops jet skis out of its butt. I mean, it's an amazing yacht, right? And then all of a sudden the real yacht pulls up from one of these Russians with two helicopter landing decks. It's a $300 million boat. The other, those big yachts have got yachts. In the yachts! In the yachts. They poop out yachts. They go out and they grab another yacht. And a submarine usually. So, and I think John, you and I both, you know, we love the earth, we love breathing clean air, we like non-genetically modified food, we'd love for everything to be clean.

CHAPTER 30 / 37 Discussion

Geopolitics of Oil, Iran and Afghanistan Pipelines

The saber-rattling against Iran is framed as a conflict over control of the world's largest oil refineries and trade routes. Similarly, the war in Afghanistan is linked to the protection of natural gas pipelines and CIA interests in the opium trade, rather than simple counter-terrorism.

iran· afghanistan· pipelines· natural gas· pincus green· refineries

1:45:58 But all of the, I would have to say almost every single initiative that governments put into place, like the global warming scam, you know, and we... Or the Food Modernization Act, or they're taking raw milk off the market. All of it is to enrich someone, and I am really feeling like... Well, helpless in a way. Why don't we just give up? We should just not play the game anymore. You know what? We could actually do that, but unfortunately or fortunately I think we are being, through our donors and our supporters, we are having to carry the flag forward, which we do do gladly. So anyway, so... But it is depressing.

1:46:43 Yeah, it is. But when you really step back and understand the game, and you're so right when you say they're reading from a script because this whole thing, this whole gulf disaster, It is part of a script and yes, it's bad and yes, it sucks and and and yeah, no one wants Their their water polluted but but the way it's being played is only to shut down drilling shut down smaller players Let the foreign guys the Chinese and the Russians expand they are expanding, you know I have documented proof of that links in the show notes at no agenda show calm and it's just to make them richer and it's and

1:47:23 It is not a market with a free flow of these commodities. They shut it off. We know I always laugh when OPEC is so small at this point compared to what Russia and China is doing But I always have to laugh when you really well Yeah, we've allowed OPEC to limit their supply to raise the price remember they used to read that all the time Cuz they yeah a little bit more money. That's what they do. Yeah, I know it's all corrupt It's it's it's a total game and it's not It's not like your representative in Congress will say, for short-term gain, for a quick profit. No, this is long gain. These people play on years and years and years. And politics? They laugh at politics. That guy Pincus Green, who I was telling you about, who's in Zouk, they're doing business with Iran. Right now in Iran, the largest oil refinery in the world is being built in Iran. They already have a big one that's being expanded. It's going to be huge.

1:48:20 And the reason why you hear this saber rattling is shut up slave Iran, you'll do what we tell you. And either you play ball with us and you let us trade through your refinery and run everything through you or we'll just nuke the part where the Where there's no refinery and we'll take care of you that way. It's all about oil Afghanistan Yeah, the poppies are important for the CIA etc. But it's still about the huge amounts of natural gas they have it's about the pipeline That's running through Afghanistan. Okay play the jingle Which one Adam Curry's pet peeve of the day? I think it made your point

1:49:02 Yeah, I have. Let's go off to a little, uh... So let's... It's not like the topic won't be revisited, so I don't want to... Yeah, I know. I know. Cut it off. No, no, I just want to make sure everyone knows that this is a game and all we're going to do is point out the actors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you said that already. Point out the actors, point out the scripts. Good. I'm done. Backslash. We'll be doing that the week ahead. Although it's like, so what? So I got a couple of clips to lighten things up before we finish. Kind of lighten things up, but I think it's interesting that the law and order by the way has been taken off the air I know what are we gonna do for clips? And I think it's all because of the fact that they turned on the global warming thing a few shows ago Yeah, you know that is interesting because we played the clip incidents. Yeah, I think not you want I Can't get to it. I'm blind on the draw then I'm blind yeah, but you know when you Yes, I do

CHAPTER 31 / 37 Discussion

Law and Order, Sharon Stone and Miranda Rights Propaganda

A recent episode of Law and Order featuring Sharon Stone is criticized for its "bad acting" and perceived government propaganda. The hosts highlight a specific line of dialogue that disparages Miranda rights, suggesting it is part of a broader effort to normalize the removal of legal protections for citizens.

law and order· sharon stone· miranda rights· propaganda· television

1:49:57 So let's play a couple things from the recent law and order that had Sharon Stone Hmm first I'm gonna play bad acting just plain bad acting don't play the other one, but just says bad acting 677 677 that's the size of the clip 42 seconds would that be right? I don't know bad acting okay. I hope this is the one Sullivan killed his kids I want to know why what do you got well for starters Frank has been lying to you said he's a Sandhog hasn't worked since last summer and take a look at his financials They're a complete mess He cashed out his 401k to live on he's underwater on the house and lookie here It was insured for the full value 1.1 million dollars

1:50:42 Frank have any record of fraud criminal record is clear never filed an insurance claim in his life But Emily Sullivan has as soon as she turned 18 She took out a car loan six months later. The car was reported stolen and torched under the BQE total loss insurance company paid off just in time is this trying to tell me that Sharon act Sharon Stone is not a good actresses yeah are you getting that just a little bit total loss looky here totally I guess you got a bar score Stacy telling you what to do you're probably gonna be look pretty good on the screen hey Sharon uncross your legs again oh yeah that's great acting baby yeah okay so but

1:51:25 But here's what got me. The bad acting, which is the second clip, and I'm not going to say what it is, but you're going to hear it. Because we talked about this last week, and we talked about this attack that is not about reading people the Miranda rights. It's about getting rid of them. And this little ditty in here was just put in by the government. Where's Shankman? He wanted to talk to you, Mom. Well, a guy named Miranda ruined that for both of us. Your lawyer needs to be present. A guy named Miranda? Ruined it. He ruined it. We gotta get rid of that guy named Miranda. He really sucks. Is that a piece of propagandistic crap or what? Yeah, it is. And now, back to Real News. I would just like to mention a brand new television program, John, which is coming June 20th to Showtime.

CHAPTER 33 / 37 Discussion

Juan Carlos Cruz, Food Network Chef Murder Plot

Celebrity chef Juan Carlos Cruz, formerly of the Food Network, was arrested in Southern California for allegedly attempting to hire homeless individuals to murder his wife. The hosts note the irony of a real-life chef murder plot following various fictional depictions they have tracked.

juan carlos cruz· food network· murder-for-hire· santa monica· celebrity chef

1:55:16 Yeah, although I wouldn't mind having a promo like that. No, we can get actually one of the promo styles. Although I still like the honey bunches of oats a little more. It's more lively. Here I got one for you. This is the kind of story we've been waiting for and waiting for. And finally it arrives. And finally it arrives. Plays Chef Murder. We do have new information tonight in the case of a celebrity chef arrested in a murder-for-hire plot in Southern California. Police arrested the Food Network's Juan Carlos Cruz on Thursday, accused of trying to hire homeless people to kill someone. Well, tonight we've learned that someone

1:55:53 was actually his wife. Cruz is a 1993 graduate of San Francisco's California Culinary Academy. He worked as a pastry chef at the Stanford Park Hotel in Palo Alto for a time before rising to Food Network fame. He's being held on five million dollars bail and is due to be arraigned on Monday. All right, we've been seeing drama after drama showing a chef murder situation. We finally have a real one. That's fantastic. I love it. Now the one last clip I have that it has to be played Well, what hold the last clip for the last thing? I just want to run through three items so we can get out of here and make sure we've covered all of the important stuff because there is some thing there are some things going on that need mention Gitmo nation down under report that you may have seen as well John parents are being paid cash and

CHAPTER 34 / 37 Discussion

Australian Vaccine Trials, Afghan Opium Fungus

In Australia, reports indicate parents are being paid cash to enroll their children in drug trials for vaccines. Meanwhile, a mysterious fungus has reportedly destroyed one-third of the Afghan opium harvest, a development that is expected to drive up global heroin prices and benefit those controlling the black market.

australia· glaxosmithkline· vaccines· afghanistan· opium· fungus

1:56:47 to subject their kids to drug trials, mainly vaccines. Oh yeah. This started with this is bad. Yeah. This started with H1N1. So, so they're actually giving GlaxoSmithKline, I guess is the lead company doing this, giving parents money and let's face it, who couldn't use $900 in cash. If you got a couple of kids, what else are they good for? You know, just hand them over to GlaxoSmithKline, let them shoot them up. So that's a very bad thing happening down under. At the same time, there's a new vaccine for a horrible pregnant woman ear disease amongst aboriginals that they've, for some reason now, they needed a vaccine for that. I think they just want to finish them off.

1:57:37 Yeah, haven't they been trying to get rid of the aboriginals forever down there? Oh yeah. Oh hey, we got this vaccine for that ear disease you have. Well, we'll just shoot you up with this. So say goodbye to the indigenous people. They won't take this shot. I don't know. A lot of people emailed this story about all of a sudden the mysterious fungus hitting the Afghan opium harvest. Yeah, reducing the harvest by up to 33%. Love that number.

CHAPTER 35 / 37 Discussion

General McChrystal, Courageous Restraint Medals

Generals Stanley McChrystal and David Petraeus are criticized for a "staged" anecdote about buying bread for peasants in Kandahar. The discussion also covers a new "courageous restraint" medal for U.S. troops in Afghanistan, which would reward soldiers for not using lethal force, a concept the hosts find confusing and potentially dangerous for military morale.

stanley mcchrystal· david petraeus· kandahar· courageous restraint· medals· afghanistan

1:58:15 33.3% to be exact one-third which of course Will raise the price of heroin Which is good because let's face it the CIA needs more money So there's a couple of links about that in in the show notes and and of course everyone in Afghanistan is saying well Shoot, you know, there's of course the NATO guys. This is they've even threatened this going back to the 90s and They even said, oh we got this stuff we can just wipe out all of your opium. So everyone knows. And by the way, what is going on with this telegraphing again of Kandahar? I don't know. Because we already did the Helmand. It was Helmand province, right? Or did we do Kandahar? Which one did we do? I don't remember. I think we did both. No, no, because now even the government is saying, well we have this big, we got this big push coming up for, I think it's Kandahar.

1:59:14 I think it is Kandahar because I just I in fact I do have a clip about this kind of that I think they were talking about Kandahar. They're just saying it oh in like two or three months we're gonna go to go into Kandahar. It's like why I don't understand what kind of war is this where we we send a memo hey we're on our way we're on our way to Kandahar just so you know get ready get all your IEDs set up we're coming to come to Kandahar. It's like Ted Koppel I'd like to warn the affiliates that we may be going overtime. Yeah, exactly. It's just like, it's very weird. Well here, I got a clip here you gotta play that relates to this. It's the McChrystal-Petraeus anecdote. This was McChrystal wearing, by the way, we haven't heard back from our man in uniform about the general's uniform, but McChrystal, by the way, has the exact same uniform as Petraeus. It's the same cut. It's obviously, he's obviously a kiss-ass.

2:00:12 and he's got the same medals, he's got his load up with medals, he's got the same exact thing and then he tells this bogus story which is actually one of the most insulting things I've ever heard anybody do if you think about the nature of this story about the let them eat cake kind of an attitude towards things play this McChrystal-Petraeus anecdote this was at a press conference that McChrystal gave this last week I'm absolutely confident that we are moving forward. I already see progress in it. Because I've been up and spent the night in Oregon about a week ago. So I see and feel that, but it's a process that will take time. Could you walk down the street in Kandahar? I just walked down the street about a week ago. Dave Petraeus and I next to each other. He bought bread and distributed it to all the people in the neighborhood. So he's more popular than I am right now in Kandahar, but we did it.

2:01:03 I autographed some pictures and yeah, I got me some groupies there in Kandahar. Yeah, but Patrice is more popular now bread. Yeah When they stopped a to two of them walking down the road it's a brand selves bakery bought some bread for the peasants and was tossing out baguettes as they were walking down the street. Baguettes! I got, you know, just on top of that there's this new metal, you know, we've talked a lot about all the, you know, these guys actually they deserve a medal right now. There is a new one. Reading from the Navy Times US troops in Afghanistan could soon be awarded a medal for not doing something I heard about this precedent-setting award that would be given for courageous restraint for holding fire to save civilian lives So you now get a medal for not shooting for handing out bread. Yeah, this is what went on Hey, man, let's get that new metal. Yeah, I need that metal for my am a uniform. Let's go ahead now bread here. I

CHAPTER 36 / 37 Discussion

United States of Europe, Financial Armageddon Predictions

The ongoing financial crisis in Europe is seen as a catalyst for the creation of a centralized "United States of Europe" with unified taxing authority. The hosts predict that European citizens will be forced to choose between total financial collapse and a centralized elite government, potentially leading to conflict between France and Germany by 2013.

european union· lisbon treaty· euro· nicolas sarkozy· germany· hyperinflation

2:02:04 Peasant have some baguette. Baguette. So even the troops like, what? What do I do now? You know, am I supposed to fire? Do I want the medal or not? Do I go for the medal? It's the do nothing medal. This is crazy, I tell you. Crazy. This is just totally nuts. All right. And then finally, I do not want to overlook the United States of Europe. as the everything is heating up now and I John I think that if we look at what's happening in Europe and by the way I think it's actually the let me see I think it was the Bloomberg who had the best report on it I have a whole bunch of notes and links in the show notes no agenda show calm

2:02:53 But now everyone is basically saying, and wow, it's not like we weren't talking about this when the Lisbon Treaty was rammed through without referendum in 99% of all the countries that were jammed into this, saying, well, you know, Because we have this huge financial problem, I think we really need to work it out so that, well, you know, it has to kind of be like a centralized taxing system. Because you can't, it's like we have to have some kind of, what do you call it, like a central, real central government kind of, because we don't have control over all these debts, you know. So, you know, hey, this euro thing, well, yeah, yeah, it was to make changing money easy.

2:03:32 But really we need to have a real government now and a real policy of tax and spend and a real budget and not just this one or two percent that the European Parliament resides over. So they're moving it in. It's either A, this is what your choices will be, prediction, get ready to play the jingle in a year from now. Either you face Armageddon, financial Armageddon, whatever that means, I guess it means we all die, or you let the elite of the world create a real government in Europe which really runs the whole show because they're saying it right now blatantly. And if not, well France is at Sarkozy saying, oh we're going to pull out of the Euro, we don't want any part of that. France and Germany, John, you are so right on about those two. They are pissed off at each other right now.

2:04:21 They're very angry. Yeah, this is gonna be, you know, I'd normally like to say, well, this is gonna be fun to watch. This is not going to be fun to watch. And I think it can, in three years, your 2013 prediction, I think you're right. It's either war, real war, and it could easily be the French and the Germans. Or it's going to be total financial Armageddon hyperinflation, everyone's effed. Yeah, the war cycle actually should happen in 2020. There'll just be a buildup. So yeah, okay, well more good news. I do have a funny one, but even though my last clip is not really funny. Yeah.

CHAPTER 37 / 37 Discussion

San Francisco Deer Shooting, Show Outro

The show concludes with a local news clip about San Francisco police opening fire on a lost deer in the name of public safety. The hosts give final reminders about the closing of the "Deuce Club" donor drive and sign off from their 200th episode, promising a return on Thursday.

deer· san francisco· police· public safety· deuce club· episode 200

2:05:06 Okay, okay, this is a don't play yet this I'm gonna set it up. This is the deer clip This is what goes on and I was talking to somebody the other day and they were dead They were talking about how people have been so dissociated from you even though they talk a big game about nature that they were on some camping trip and they and they There's with parents and kids and the one of the 40 year old men was saying where can I go to the bathroom? And I guess this is go bow to a tree says you don't expect me to just pee on a tree. Do you and And he says, you do that? And this kind of naivete. So we have a lot of deer around the house in Washington. And every once in a while, these things are pests, by the way. And so you shoo them away or you just get rid of them. But you know, they're pretty. Well, anyway, so I guess there was a fawn or some little dinky deer that showed up locally here in the metropolitan area of San Francisco Bay Area. And this is what the result was.

2:06:01 Next at 11 shoot to kill local police corner a lost deer then open fire in the name of public safety They open fire first public safety it's a friggin deer do it again Next at 11 shoot to kill local police corner a lost deer then open fire in the name of public safety Deer are you know, it's hard to find them. They're like afraid of people They run away when you show up with or without a gun for good reason Shoot to kill and kill all the deer it's all over My goodness. All right. It's a crazy world. We live in never ends ever

2:06:51 Yeah, which is good because that gives us the hope that one day we'll be able to produce a third show. In fact, we do have kind of a third show coming up. Donors of this program in the email by tomorrow sometime will receive a special link. How long do you think it'll last, John, before this link is everywhere? It'll go probably a little beyond, but I don't think it's going to go everywhere. But you know people have till midnight tonight to get the finally uh the deuce clubs over. Yeah but here's the prediction. Some jerk off on no agenda forums is gonna go, oh you're the only donors and you just paste this link here it should be free for everyone. Well that's you know if they do that they do that but the fact of the matter is that no agenda forums is still only a few thousand people that probably pass through it so it's not like it's going to uh everyone.

2:07:42 I'm just saying. That's okay, the people who get it first will be the ones who enjoy it the most. Yeah. And, uh... Alright. And of course, we'll be back on Thursday with our regular scheduled programming. So coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, Southern California, IA, owned by the people, it's a republic, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the weather is kind of... eh, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.