Episode 920 · Thursday, 13 April 2017

Succulent

Historical propaganda tactics from the Wilson administration resurface in modern media as the White House navigates Syrian missile strikes, NATO negotiations, and internal West Wing rivalries.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 920

About this episode

Woodrow Wilson and George Creel established the Committee on Public Information in 1917, creating a massive propaganda machine that served as the blueprint for modern media manipulation. This historical Ministry of Truth employed 75,000 people to manage news flow and enforce patriotism through the American Protective League, which conducted illegal slacker raids and searches. These tactics, later adopted by Joseph Goebbels in Nazi Germany, represent a fractal of social control that persists in the 40,000 public relations experts currently employed by the Pentagon.

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer faced intense scrutiny following a gaffe regarding Adolf Hitler and chemical weapons during a briefing on the Syria conflict. While the media focused on Spicer’s use of the term Holocaust centers, the administration shifted its foreign policy toward a Globocop stance, dropping a GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast on ISIS tunnels in Afghanistan. Tensions between Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner continue to simmer as Donald Trump negotiates NATO policy and monitors a naval armada moving toward North Korea. Meanwhile, Rex Tillerson emphasizes that the United States will prioritize the defeat of ISIS over immediate regime change in Syria, citing the chaos of the Libyan intervention as a cautionary tale.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the linguistic affectations of the academic elite, specifically mocking the use of the word succulent by Stanford professors. The program also highlights a Burger King advertisement that successfully hijacked Google Home devices to read Wikipedia entries. This episode features contributions from Dame Kathy Samunich and Baron Greg as the show transitions its community to the Mastodon-based No Agenda Social network.


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CHAPTER 01 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 920 Introduction and 420 Reference

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 920 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts joke about the date and the "420" cannabis culture reference, with Dvorak accidentally calling it "920 day." They briefly discuss personal habits regarding the "50-50" before transitioning into the main program.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· silicon valley· 420· 920

00:00 You and you and you and you and... Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah It's Thursday April 13th 2017 This is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9er 2-0! This is no agenda We're more woke than a California college professor and broadcasting live from the darkest corners on the internet here in downtown Austin, Tejas. Capital of the drone star state In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley it's time to Toke Up It's 920 day I'm John C. DeVorei 420? I think is the number you're looking for Oh man that was a mistake i made Yeah correct

00:43 We know you're on the 50-50. We have 420 coming up, by the way very shortly. We know you're on the 50-50 Come on cop to it No You said...you said you were doing 50-50 I have done 50-50 Oh! I'm sorry and I remember asking if it was okay to talk about it on the show? It..I don't remember any of this conversation I do not remember anything Hey man no wonder Hey, too close to the early beginning of the show. It won't work as a front end. I will say Tina, the keeper just texted me and went fabulous nine 20 that man is amazing. He's super high John C. DeMora he doesn't just he doesn't just he doesn't just do four 29 920 twice as good

CHAPTER 02 / 47 Discussion

George Creel, Committee on Public Information Propaganda History

John C. Dvorak discusses a PBS special on World War I that highlights the propaganda efforts of Woodrow Wilson and George Creel. Creel headed the Committee on Public Information (CPI), an organization employing 75,000 people to manage news flow and provide 20,000 newspaper columns weekly to the media. The hosts compare the CPI's "public information" mandate to a real-world Ministry of Truth designed to edit facts and control the war narrative.

george creel· woodrow wilson· cpi· world war i· propaganda· ministry of truth

01:43 9th I think it doesn't really add up. It's more than twice as good Wow, I am really high exactly So there was a there is a thing people should try to catch it when it comes around again They haven't seen her already and there was a lot of revealing stuff in it It was the special that PBS did on World War one When was this? When did this air? It just, the part three is a three-parter aired last night and it'll rerun quite a few times. This is one of the best things I've ever seen him do but where...and there's a lot of stuff in there that I just didn't realize World War One had...there were pictures of Woodrow Wilson that made you thought you were in Iraq with these giant pictures of Saddam Hussein

02:29 World War I? Woodrow Wilson had those pictures around. World War 1 with Saddam Hussein? No, you remember Saddam Hussein when they would go into Iraq and there'd be these giant heads of Saddam Hussein. Sure sure sure. Woodrow Wilson. I've never seen these photos before. Giant heads of Woodrow Wilson?! Yes, paintings of posters, giant posters that must have been 50-60 feet high. It's like a reverse Zika. It's very strange, but there was a very... There was one interesting to me at least revelation and I want to play a couple of clips that bring us right to it. Which is uh.. Oh! I'm excited we're getting little history lesson here today nice This is WW1 CPI starter. I need do a little setup okay this was um this was about

03:24 the government's initial propaganda arm where this character I never heard of Edward Cree or was it Edward Creel? Anyway, this guy Creel who set this whole organization up. They had 75, I did a little work upon him and he had 75 thousand people working for him to deliver bull crap news fake news. No! To the media Wow! And what, in which department were these people housed? Well it was called the CPI and you hear play the clip and we'll get a little bit of that information. Oh fantastic I'm excited Much of their reporting was provided directly by the Committee on Public Information The head of the organization... I just got to stop it right there Hello Ministry of Truth That is what... public information

04:19 That's the Ministry of Truth. I love this. This is fantastic. Totally, directly by the Committee on Public Information The head of the organization George Creel estimated that 20 000 newspaper columns a week were drawn from CPI releases Woodrow Wilson, The Great Democrat wanted strict censorship Creel said that this would be a great mistake. What we have to do instead is supply all of the news, everything anybody hears about the war has to come through the Committee on Public Information. Creel's argument is that I'm giving you all the facts and you are free to reach whatever conclusions you will but in fact these were very carefully edited facts. Creel couldn't hide the war's cost

CHAPTER 03 / 47 Discussion

Edward Bernays and the Origins of Modern Public Relations

The discussion shifts to Edward Bernays, often cited as the father of modern public relations, who actually worked under George Creel during World War I. While Bernays codified these tactics in his 1923 book, the hosts argue that Creel was the original architect of deep-rooted propagandistic manipulation. They compare the relationship between Creel and Bernays to the rivalry between Tesla and Edison.

edward bernays· george creel· public relations· propaganda· world war i

05:14 Casualty lists began filling whole pages in the newspaper day after day. Nice music. Yeah, it's dramatic. Relaxing. The losses mounted. The CPI redoubled its efforts to enlist civilians in the war effort. Bloggers! We need to enlist bloggers! This is...the interesting thing about this Creel guy and Now have to credit him George Creel as the father of modern public relations. I never heard of him before I haven't either It's really bothered me The thing that is noteworthy is that Edward Bernays worked for him in the CPI and Bernays Of course, is the is the founder of the propaganda? Well apparently not Yeah, this is big news. This this this is like a Tesla Edison thing here

06:14 Bernays is, which actually has been more explored than this guy. Bernays really came to fame in 1923 when he wrote his book and he was working for this Creel guy during the war and Creel was the one who was doing all of Pretty interesting propagandistic stuff. He was he when he was against the posters some of those are really nasty posters They did about the Germans his whole thing Was it? Was real propaganda the real deep-rooted stuff this stuff that makes people you know want to join and fight the war as Opposed to kill the hun and they talk about this in the next Kill the hun I haven't heard that in 80 years John good one Yeah

06:58 Yeah, well you'll hear it again in about two seconds. WW1 CPI traveling war exhibition. Oh hold on there's two of them yeah In the fall of 1918 The CPI put on a traveling war exposition It was an attempt to bring the war home Emphasizing the sacrifices that soldiers were making for their countrymen In Chicago, two million visitors lined up to see artifacts ranging from Zeppelin wreckage to an Iron Cross nail brush. The highlight was a staged reenactment of trench warfare complete with a working tank. The truly dedicated could visit the Army mess kitchen where it was promised meals are served in the same manner and using the same grub as is the fare of the doughboys in France

CHAPTER 04 / 47 Discussion

World War I Traveling War Exposition and Slacker Raids

In 1918, the CPI organized a massive traveling war exposition in Chicago that drew two million visitors to see Zeppelin wreckage and staged trench warfare reenactments. This era saw the rise of the American Protective League (APL), a group of 250,000 citizens authorized by the Justice Department to conduct "slacker raids" and illegal searches. These efforts were designed to enforce patriotism and suppress any objections to the war effort through intimidation and arrests.

cpi· chicago· slacker raids· american protective league· trench warfare· vigilantism

06:14 Bernays is, which actually has been more explored than this guy. Bernays really came to fame in 1923 when he wrote his book and he was working for this Creel guy during the war and Creel was the one who was doing all of Pretty interesting propagandistic stuff. He was he when he was against the posters some of those are really nasty posters They did about the Germans his whole thing Was it? Was real propaganda the real deep-rooted stuff this stuff that makes people you know want to join and fight the war as Opposed to kill the hun and they talk about this in the next Kill the hun I haven't heard that in 80 years John good one Yeah

06:58 Yeah, well you'll hear it again in about two seconds. WW1 CPI traveling war exhibition. Oh hold on there's two of them yeah In the fall of 1918 The CPI put on a traveling war exposition It was an attempt to bring the war home Emphasizing the sacrifices that soldiers were making for their countrymen In Chicago, two million visitors lined up to see artifacts ranging from Zeppelin wreckage to an Iron Cross nail brush. The highlight was a staged reenactment of trench warfare complete with a working tank. The truly dedicated could visit the Army mess kitchen where it was promised meals are served in the same manner and using the same grub as is the fare of the doughboys in France

08:02 Stop, I need to ask a question. I've never heard this? The doughboys in France? Yeah, that was the French fighters were called. The Doughboy was the name for almost everybody who's fighting in that war on the Allied side As a phrase from this Shaye's question how does that relate? I don't understand dough boy Well, no why they call them dough boys there's a really...I think if you looked it up There's some vague explanation. I want to mention a couple things one This exhibition Was huge and two million people go through it Wow And it was massive, it was large. It was one of these big giant things this guy really had his act together this creedal character and when they're showing a lot of the clips in this thing that one thing that struck me

08:44 Well, actually when we get to the clip for the last clip I'll mention it. But there's a lot of stuff that they showed including the giant posters of Wilson that I've never seen...I don't know where they got this stuff but it was stunning to me and I'm recommending anyone out there who gets their shot at this three-parter on World War One should definitely get it. It was very antiwar. Anyway let's finish this clip. Do your part to win the war was the theme of the exposition. And George Creel was doing his best to make it a theme of American life. Creel was a genuine idealist, he wanted the War to be a war of ideas and ideology He did not like the idea that we must kill the Hun. There it is! He did not like the idea if you are disloyal then you should be killed

09:48 He thought we should all get along as Americans and do what we can to win the war because that was the right thing to do. But whether Creel liked it or not, there was a darker side to the running of the war for anyone who didn't get in line there could be serious consequences There was a sense that you were being watched. But it wasn't always clear who was watching you, You never knew if some magazine that you had subscribed to Was suddenly going to get you in trouble. You never knew if you sang a German song That your father or grandfather had sung before That suddenly you were going to end up prosecuted

10:39 You see a rash of vigilantism aimed at making sure that anybody who might have any objection to the war does not express it. And it's now just a matter of being quiet, just don't say that I'm against the war but actively demonstrate support. A host of organizations made sure every American was doing his or her patriotic duty The American Protective League boasted a quarter of a million members across the country. The Justice Department gave the APL semi-official status by supplying it with armbands and badges. Yeah! Armbands, whoa we got armbands! What did APL stand for again?

CHAPTER 05 / 47 Discussion

Nazi Germany Tactics Derived from American WWI Propaganda

The hosts discuss how the propaganda and social control tactics used in America during World War I served as a blueprint for the Nazi regime in Germany. They suggest that Joseph Goebbels lifted his strategies directly from the American model established by George Creel. This historical repetition is described as a "fractal" that continues to influence modern media and government operations.

goebbels· world war i· nazi germany· propaganda· fractals

11:36 So this was, the more you watch this and we two of us both read that book about life during the Nazi... Yes it's in The Garden. It's in The Garden of the Beast is the name of the book? The Garden of the Beast or something like that yeah it's right out of there. I mean, it's like the... It's like Goebbels took the disguise. Hey can I just say one thing? I'm sorry to interrupt. There is no R in Goebbels. I hear every American say this. Oh okay fine you know I say it that way and I don't know why you're so into that because your mispronouncing stuff on purpose. Hey! I'm not saying about this one thing, I don't talk about Washington or any of that. I'm just saying I hear the corporate media say gerbils all the time and I just want to correct it. I know the corporate media does and I came out of that. And you correct me all the time for stuff so... Okay okay! You want to get back to this? Yes! I just said one second small interruption jeez

12:30 So, that book was exactly what they're doing. It's as if you had to really be in line or you were gonna get like they did if you didn't do the Nazi salute all the time people would slap you on the back of their head and beat the crap out of ya'. The whole thing was lifted from World War I. Wow! The whole Nazi phenomenon. So it was just a fractal is what we would say? Exactly a fractal In fact, I think that fractal is still in play which is what we're trying to uncover on our show. I like that! Fractal... Okay, so we go to part two of this thing League men embarked on illegal searches and seizures detained and arrested men without charges intimidated allegedly disloyal Americans And broke up strikes

CHAPTER 06 / 47 Discussion

World War I as a Banking Scam

A claim is made that World War I was essentially a banking scam designed to protect British financial interests. The narrative suggests that international bankers influenced the United States to enter the conflict to ensure the British did not lose money. Massive propaganda campaigns were then used to manufacture the patriotism necessary to sustain American involvement in a war that lacked a clear initial purpose for the country.

banking· england· world war i· propaganda· patriotism

13:28 In the fall of 1918, they unleashed a series of so-called slacker raids in cities across the country. They organized slacker raids with the idea of rounding up men who are evading the draft. They fan out across these cities. They go into Nickelodeons. They go into movie theaters... And then they beat the crap out of everybody. Now, the one little ditty in there I thought was interesting is that they also went after strikers—people who tried to form a union or went on strike. You have to remember World War One was a banking scam! It was…the only reason we were even in this war…there was no reason for the war to begin with it was… Hold on, hold on. I don't think anyone knows that as a fact so you might want to give us a little background. No, I think you're wrong. Well, I probably am wrong but

14:21 The British were going to lose a lot of money in this war if it didn't turn around. And the bankers... England got our bankers to get our guys to get involved in this war and turn it into some sort of very patriotic. What were we even in this war for? It was ridiculous, and then we're not only end the war but knee-deep to the point where we're doing all sorts of propagandistic stuff on our own people to make sure that if you weren't all for gung ho for the war you'd get the crap beat out of ya It was just unbelievable to me what a scam that war was. But here's this last clip which shows you how little regard there was for the American public because during the war is when in 1817, 1917 is when H1N1 influenza broke out and- Oh! That was yeah... How many million?

CHAPTER 07 / 47 Discussion

Woodrow Wilson and the 1918 Spanish Flu Suppression

During the 1918 H1N1 influenza pandemic, President Woodrow Wilson reportedly refused to publicly acknowledge the crisis to avoid distracting from the war effort. Authorities issued trivial advice, such as avoiding tight shoes, while ignoring the need for crowd control to protect war bond drives and military mobilization. This suppression of information is blamed for contributing to the high death toll of the Spanish Flu.

woodrow wilson· h1n1· spanish flu· pandemic· 1918· war bonds

15:20 How many people, like 18 million people died? I don't know what the numbers are. It's a crazy amount. But it was very high and a lot of Americans died and often with this particular one because they had nothing to do... there was no way of controlling it Even with this decongestants, let's say. Somebody could get it in the morning and be dead at night. Yeah, the Spanish flu right? The Spanish flu... Now you can look up the number. 17 million I'm getting from the war room here. Okay well that probably could be anyway it was very deadly And during their showing of these clips, I didn't realize that almost from about 1916 or whenever the flu broke out. I guess it was in early 17th. They show street scenes and everybody was wearing a mask! Everybody! Except the white helmets Yeah the white helmets were there they were fine Every single person was wearing a mask

16:19 And I'd never seen these films before, but this little ditty at the end of this last clip is what kind of disgusted me because Wilson didn't even want to discuss this flu because it would take away from his bankers' war efforts. And I think a lot of people just died needlessly because they didn't do anything about crowd control. Oh yeah all get together and you can all catch the flu at the same time nobody cares. This was The Rothschild's, The Warburg's And the like? The bankers in this banker war? I'm guessing. I think so, yeah and the shifts? Be my guess. Yeah. Let me play this. Authorities told the public to avoid wearing tight shoes, tight clothing or tight gloves To chew their food well and drink water Swindlers made small fortunes with potions and patent medicines

17:13 But nothing stemmed the tide of death. This was a national catastrophe, and the president doesn't say one thing about it. And part of his reasoning for that was not to create panic but the other part was that if you start thinking too much about the flu, you're not thinking about the war because really containing the influenza epidemic means shutting down factories, shutting down war bond drives, shutting down mobilization. None of that can happen in the context of the First World War this is just another tragedy that must be endured

17:57 I find distressing and then it was just that office, the CPI that sent out the memos about... All is well citizens. No you don't want to go and catch a flu if you don't wear tight shoes. That's how we began, that was the advice. Don't wear tight shoes, don't wear tight clothes. They're killing people over there or they were. Drink a lot of water, you'll be fine now up to the modern times, that office was folded into something else and then something else and ended in the Pentagon somehow.

CHAPTER 08 / 47 Discussion

Pentagon Public Relations and Modern Media Manipulation

The hosts connect the historical 75,000-person CPI staff to modern reports that the Pentagon employs approximately 40,000 public relations experts. They argue that the infrastructure for "fake news" established during the Wilson administration never truly went away, but was instead folded into the Department of Defense. This ongoing operation is cited as the reason why modern media consumers are easily "railroaded" by government narratives.

pentagon· public relations· george creel· media· propaganda

18:35 We had, no 75 thousand we're talking about. We had discussed this before it was two or three years ago I remember and I didn't think much about it but there were some mention that the Pentagon has 40 thousand public relations experts. Yes yeah Yeah remember that? Yeah sure do I can probably find that I'll see. I thought that was an awfully high number but now they look back on this history where they have seventy five thousand people working for this Creel character, who is an ex-newspaper guy from the Denver Post by the way for you Coloradans. I guess as far as I can tell this is still going on. I'm trying to see if we had a clip from back then... Maybe it was just a news article that we discussed that may not have had a clip?

19:27 I don't remember whether we had one or not, but i do remember there was a- there seemed to be an inordinate amount of public relations people working IN THE PENTAGON. So, that's still going on. So the news we're getting... This is a preface to today's show but as far as I can tell this is the same thing that's going on now and this is the guy who started it all and Edward Bernays in the whole public relations business stems from this guy and his gung-ho well you know we want to be doing it for democracy for the future and all the rest of it idealist he wasn't not an idealist

20:04 just doing his job to make sure that we're all in line. Well, perhaps Bernays saw what was going on and you know it's not hard to come up with the idea of I know let's give the people false information that's not hard to come out but maybe Bernays... The Creole they said this is false this is all highly editors sure but it was totally false information 20 thousand columns a week were coming pumping into the American media Are we great or what? We're really good. But I mean the poor people that are suckered by this and i would have to say that the non-listeners of The No Agenda Show constitute the same group of people that just are going to get railroaded if they don't you know start paying attention yeah and they do keep trying stuff with Zika, Ebola, Swine Flu

20:56 Lord knows. What I was going to say is that perhaps Bernays just saw this obvious tactic work and said, you know what? I'm gonna codify it and turn it into a practice. Bernays would be...with that theory, I'd agree with this. What I'm thinking what happened is this other guy Creel was like a true believer. And he's the one who invented all these ideas, but he wasn't thinking of it as a manipulation process. He just thought about it as a way to protect the war effort sincerely. But I think Bernays was like... Wow this is an idea that could be exploited and took it to the next level so let's see if I can agree with that 100%. Thank you John! I applaud you for this

21:45 This is exactly why I tune into the show. I had a good one later too, but I learned a couple of big things first of all was not Bernays who invented all this and second of all what 20 thousand columns a week? Yeah And everyone read them because you didn't have much else there was not much other media at the time to consume It's all reports from the war it was interesting crazy Well, this does fold in nicely to what seemed to be just a small innocuous event but I think it's a lot bigger particularly when it comes to the corporate media. And this is sweaty Sean's gaff actually

CHAPTER 09 / 47 Discussion

Sean Spicer Syria Destabilization Gaffe and Media Context

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer made a verbal slip during a briefing, stating that the U.S. goal was to "destabilize Syria" before immediately correcting himself to say "destabilize the conflict." The hosts analyze the full context of the clip, noting that Spicer was attempting to distance the Trump administration from Vladimir Putin. They argue that the mainstream media ignored the correction to focus on the more sensational error.

sean spicer· syria· bashar al-assad· vladimir putin· white house· gaffe

22:22 I don't know if you have anything, but I have a little package of stuff here that I wanted to go through. Well first of all yeah? I knew he'd get sweaty. I have a bunch of different clips of sweaty Sean's gaff But I don't have like the I didn't get the whole thing and I figured you probably would for some right Just tell you be the one that want to get that hey You know what's interesting is that I was sitting here last night And I'm like everyone's heard this damn clip already screw it. I'll clip it Yeah, that would be you but in doing so you didn't get it. No I did no I did in doing So I figured out what's really going on and it's really quite despicable Okay yeah, so there were actually two gaffes and one got covered up by the first one this is

23:09 This is sweaty shut this did almost didn't get any play in mainstream But it was what he was saying and then this gaff got picked up by alternative media We all laughed wholeheartedly because of course the truth always slips out. I don't think those are mutually exclusive statements Because I don't think I think that you can One of them saying we don't see peace with him in charge. The other one is saying, we need to have him gone I think that's the point of both The goal for both of them, the goal for the United States is twofold as I've stated It's one to make sure that we destabilize Syria So...that's where That's where the clip ended

23:49 And I enjoy that very much because of course we know that has always been the goal. I didn't know it was the goal of this administration to destabilize Syria, but that's the way it came out so that could possibly be the truth now The clip ended here on every... you gonna say something? Yeah, I was gonna say I think it is. So I think it IS the truth. Is it POSSIBLY the truth? Well, I want to play the whole clip Yeah, well nobody does that except us so go do it. Right but I will say that this clip this particular one which was sent to me by a lot of people and its kind of disappointing in a way Because people rarely... like, oh this is a funny clip! You know we'll get to the damn doctor on the airplane later. Uh you know when you don't have the context and only have a little bit of video that's not proof but our brains are trained for that So let's just listen to this in context. The goal for the United States is twofold as I've stated it's one to make sure that we destabilize Syria uh destabilize the conflict there reduce Okay so he immediately correct himself

24:50 I understand the truth wants to come out, but it's not like that's all he said. And that was my impression looking at the clip What he's really trying to do is he's trying to say, hey we're not up Putin's butt. The threat of ISIS but then secondly is create the political environment um not just within the Syrian people but I think you can have work with Russia in particular to make sure that they understand that Syria backed by Russia's own accounting should be held accountable for the agreements it has made with respect to its international agreement on chemical weapons alone So what Spicer is trying to do, is something that the mainstream media... This is why I think this was ignored in its entirety by corporate media. Is trying to say hey look what we did! We're not Putin lovers you know Russia these guys bad guys screw it Russia and the media has been all over Russia for months a year year-and-a-half Russia Russia but then he'd pick up on now let's go to the big gaff sweaty Shawn's big gaff which

CHAPTER 10 / 47 Discussion

Sean Spicer Hitler Chemical Weapons Comparison Controversy

Sean Spicer sparked international backlash by claiming that Adolf Hitler "didn't even sink to using chemical weapons" in the same way as Bashar al-Assad. Spicer later attempted to clarify his remarks by distinguishing between the use of sarin gas in towns and the "Holocaust centers," a term he used instead of concentration camps. The hosts suggest the comparison was a scripted attempt to frame Assad as worse than Hitler that backfired significantly.

sean spicer· adolf hitler· holocaust· sarin gas· bashar al-assad· concentration camps

25:53 I think this was... part of this may have been manufactured? I saw at least 10 versions of this and they were all clipped together in all kinds of different ways to make it look like he's a complete idiot, although we believe he is. Oh yeah well sweaty Sean of course but uh i was hoping you'd have something that was more definitive. The alliance between Russia and Syria is strong when it goes back... So there's a question comes always hard please please new administration better audio less camera clicking As a journalist, and I think this is a setup question that's why I left it in who say well tell us about Syria. And I mean you know all these questions are known beforehand This is all you know this is all scripted pretty much these news conferences or the spokeshole conferences and so this is clearly a scripted question to get Sean to talk about...and I think purposely

26:49 and we'll get into that in a minute, purposely to make- to get rid of the Hitler comparison. He screws it up in many ways but I think that was the idea. I believe it was manufactured and it backfired on him. The alliance between Russia and Syria is strong when it goes back decades President Putin has supplied personnel, he's supplied military equipment to the Assad government. What makes you think that at this point he is going to pull back in his support for President Assad and for the Syrian government right now? Now you gotta agree thats kind of set up. You know its like hey just out of the blue what do you think hes uh hes just gonna pull out now that we lobbed some tomahawks over there

27:27 I think a couple things. You look, we didn't use chemical weapons in World War II you know you had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons So, you have to... Now that's where it pretty much stopped but a couple people went further. If you're Russia ask yourself is this a country that you and the regime want to align yourself with? You have previously signed on international agreements. See what he is trying to do here is he is trying to say Assad is worse than Hitler and Putin is his friend! Putin is the bad guy Rightfully acknowledging that use of chemical weapons should be out-of-bounds by every country Did you hear any audible gasps or anything?

28:13 What did he say? Did you hear any of that?" No, I don't think he did. There was nothing at all but... To not stand up to not only Assad but your own word should be troubling and this is Russia put their name on the line so it's not a question of how long that alliance has lasted but at what point do they recognize that they are now getting on the wrong side of history in a really bad way really quickly and again look at the countries that are standing with them Iran, Syria, North Korea. This is not a team you want to be on and I think that Russia has to recognize that while they may have had an alliance for them the lines that have been crossed are ones no country should ever want to see another country. So he continues to try get the whole Russia vibe out and there's one journalist who says, can you please clarify what you just said? I'll clarify something you said which seems to me to be gaining some traction right now. Quote Hitler didn't even seem to level of using chemical weapons

29:10 What do you mean by that? I think when you come to sarin gas, there was no he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that a shot is doing. There's clearly...I understand your point thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. He brought him into to the Holocaust Center, and I understand that. But what I'm saying is the way Assad used them where he went into towns dropped him down to innocent into the middle of towns it was brought so... The use of it and I appreciate the clarification there that was not the intent." Okay, so he apologizes within the same two-and-a-half minutes And of course there are a lot of things that I picked up on One obviously as he's trying to smear Russia which uh.. He has been trying to do this failing miserably

CHAPTER 11 / 47 Discussion

CNN Media Analysis of Sean Spicer Gaffes

The hosts critique CNN's coverage of Sean Spicer, featuring Brooke Baldwin and Brian Stelter. The CNN segment focused on Spicer's use of the term "Holocaust centers" and the timing of his comments during Passover. The hosts mock the fast-paced delivery of the news anchors and their focus on Spicer's "sweaty" appearance and perceived lack of credibility.

cnn· brooke baldwin· brian stelter· sean spicer· passover· white house

29:58 He talks about he didn't even do that on his own people. Sarin gas, I guess you could do a little comparison with Zykon B and we understand the gaffe there then he talks about the Holocaust Center instead of concentration camp and he also mispronounces Bashar al-Assad's name several times so i was fortunate enough to be watching CNN right after this aired and Brooke Baldwin brought in who is the media douchebag Brian Seltzer? Salter? Selterwater Yeah. Who all, maybe a Jew I don't know that would just make it even better and listen to all the things they picked up on of which none none of them was about Hitler gassing Jews but all this other stuff it was fascinating as like they were trying to figure out what would stick they didn't catch it we know it did stick but and this is a little long but if you get bored of it tell me but I think it's really interesting to hear all the things they pick apart except Russia

30:57 Okay, so this is one of those times we're listening to the sound bite over and over to try to understand exactly what Sean Spicer meant I've got Brian Stelter who just sat down next to me. Do you think she really didn't understand what he meant? She's trying to say Hitler wasn't as bad as this guy. Putin is friends with him, that's the message you got it bro. Your media correspondent and host of Reliable Sources And I've heard the soundbite now three times As it happened in two other times and now when he references Holocaust centers Right What do you think he's referencing? Concentration camps Well thats speculation online That's the speculation Can I mention something just as a side here I noticed this

31:37 Because Erica Hill went over back to CNN and I was talking to a friend of mine about this. They kind of, I don't know if they encourage it but I'm noticing with Brooke Baldwin they're encouraging or they do fast-talking. She's talking way too fast. Yeah she may be a little pepped up on something. She seems like an energy drink girl to me. One of those... Too many Red Bulls? No no one of those horrible little bottles you get at the gas station at the cash register. Oh the five hours! I'm ready for my shift now. Is it time?

32:29 people as your guest was saying a few minutes ago. Oh, it's not over? Seems like every day in the briefing there is something that chips away at Spicer credibility he has an incredibly difficult job he is up there sweating in front of the TV. Ah yes! He is sweaty Sean. But it does seem like on daily basis there are these strains on his credibility and this one particular I think its shocking given well that it's Passover Jews across around

33:13 This is of course leading to the incredible hate for Jews from the administration because of course Sean Spicer timed this gaffe on Easter. Yes Passover, yes He hates the Jews are marking Passover and that just last night There was a Seder at the White House President Trump happened not to attend though it's even better than That's the kicker because President Obama did attend the Seders on an annual basis basis. Can you believe this? I've never heard anything like this in my life. What Sean Spicer said and to reference these horrendous gas chambers in which so many men, women and children were killed as Holocaust centers. And saying Hitler didn't do it to his own people. In fact- You can handle anymore? Okay all right you're done. It's just the way that means they've got a 24 hour news cycle they can't they have to fill it with this stuff

CHAPTER 12 / 47 Discussion

Anne Frank Center and Alan Dershowitz Critique

The Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect, led by Stephen Goldstein, called for Sean Spicer's firing, labeling his comments the "most evil slur" ever heard from the White House. Attorney Alan Dershowitz appeared on CNN to counter this, calling the organization a "phony" minor institution with no credibility. The hosts use this to illustrate how media outlets often amplify publicity-seeking groups without verifying their standing.

anne frank center· alan dershowitz· stephen goldstein· sean spicer· cnn

34:22 Well, I have a few more. I talked to you off camera remember that and then we talked about this at the dinner we went to and there's a couple what is it? This is not reporting anything well here's how CBS brought the news flash The backlash against Spicer was swift and harsh in a statement The Anne Frank Center said Spicers comments were the most evil slur upon a group of people ever heard from someone at the White House. The most evil slur John most evil! I would like to see who they were who said that That was CBS. No, no who said who made the... I'm sorry i don't know i don't know i don't know i'm sorry do they tell you? I don't remember like made the clip i don't remember

35:01 Well, they did say it in the clip. They said to holla at the Anne Frank Center Oh I'm sorry They never named anybody Hold on No no It's a different one Yes this is important and for a reason hold on The backlash against Spicer was swift and harsh In a statement the Anne Frank Center said Spicer's comments were Yeah Anne Frank Center Now there are two Anne Frank Centers Didn't say...I don't think they gave names The most evil slur upon a group of people ever heard from someone at the White House But! I can get you the name because The uber-jew lawyer Alan Dershowitz was on with the overnight legend over there at the CNN's and he was quite angry about all of this. Particularly this Anne Frank Center dude. Alan I want to get your perspective on this because Stephen Goldstein who is executive director of the Anne Frank Center, his statement it's scathing.

35:51 He said, on Passover no less. Spicer's statement is the most evil slur upon a group of people we have ever heard from. a White House press secretary. Do you think he was engaging in Holocaust denial? No, and of course what this guy who claims to be the head of the Frank Center who's a total phony there is no such thing it's a minor institution has no credibility It's probably the same guy from Syrian Observatory within the Jewish community He is constantly trying get headlines by overblowing everything What happened here is that the guys screwed up and he apologized Thank You! Thank You Mr Dershowitz So now we know little bit about that guy

36:38 I think it's more interesting, the most interesting thing about that clip was that how much reporting does it take to know what Dershowitz said? The guy is a phony. He's trying to get publicity and you're giving him publicity! Well BBC continues to give the Syrian Observatory publicity all time. Yes same thing, yeah I agree but how much work do we have to bring back from my early clip of World War One... The CPI was very busy doing this The CPI is very big. How much work does it take when you start quoting people to find out that they're a phony baloney operation and some guy's trying to get publicity, and you're giving it to them? Well... How much work do you think it has to take? Not a lot. What does it take? All you have to do is show up... Exactly! Not a lot. Invite your guests on ask them questions and hope they say something

CHAPTER 13 / 47 Discussion

Rachel Maddow and Media Fixation on Spicer Pronunciations

Rachel Maddow and other commentators are criticized for focusing on Sean Spicer's repeated mispronunciations of Bashar al-Assad's name. The discussion moves to the broader "office culture" of the Trump administration, with pundits like Jason Johnson arguing that Spicer's gaffes are symptomatic of a deeper issue involving figures like Steve Bannon. The hosts note the media's tendency to use Hitler analogies while simultaneously condemning Spicer for doing the same.

rachel maddow· sean spicer· bashar al-assad· steve bannon· white house

37:28 Rachel Maddow took a different tact. She needed something we do which I'm a little mad she's encroaching on our turf the same way That Ashad is doing Ashad that's one of his attempts today to say Bashar Al-Assad. That was one of his tries, here's another try. No I don't see a future Syria that has Bassad al-Ashar as the leader of that government. If I had caught that one then i would have played it too as a funny joke. Bassad al-Ashar. If Rachel is here she'd get clip of the day! She's not but she's on standby in case I keel over

38:09 is Bashar al-Assad. The White House spokesman later went on CNN, still couldn't manage even that part of it...still. There's no way I can see a stable and peaceful Syria with Bashar Al Assad in charge. Bashar Al Assad? I know you've mispronounced his name a few times but uh, it's Bashar. Sorry put the Brawlf clip right after that. Al Assad. Bashard Al Assir was the attempt there. Talking is hard Everybody gets tripped up sometimes. Yeah, gerbils. Thanks. Gerbils! Alright, two more in this little block because then we really came out also. This started on the Don Lemon Overnight Sensation show The guy is from The Root which I think is an NBC property It's a blog primarily black American blog and this is Jason Johnson who took this to its natural conclusion Alright look inaccurate of course insensitive by anybody's light I'm sorry thought it was Don Lemon it's Cuomo

39:13 also violates this rule about comparing things to the Holocaust means simply merely terrible. Everyone gets in trouble when they use a Hitler analogy everybody gets in trouble. Whoa, whoa hold on a second! When you use the Hitler analogy everybody gets in trouble unless your a prostitute I guess? How many times have we heard Donald Trump is Hitler?! In the mainstream media, mainstream. These very same people have likened him to Hitler Continuously. Specifically that seltzer water guy.

40:08 Or do you believe it is a symptom of something? It's the office culture. You know, it's the office culture Remember you had Ben Carson saying that slaves were immigrants right they tried to defend that this Is not the first the last second or third time that this administration has shown insensitivity Whether it's from an administration person or it's from Sean Spicer, I don't think he is going to get fired. I think the fact that he threw himself on the sword after this is kind of novel and I think thats about him protecting himself because had he asked his boss he probably would have said hey you dont want to apologize we can just move on but I think this is about the office culture of this administration and unfortunately its not gonna change. Ron, Sean Spicer did apologize here on CNN.

40:47 show and look we all understand the perils of Sean Spicer's job speaking extemporaneously every day in front of that huge press corps is not for the faint-hearted but is this one in a different category? It is. And look, I think that job has been hard under any president and it's especially difficult under this president for the reasons we talked about in the last segment which is that he regularly says things that he simply cannot support with evidence and you as a press secretary are forced to kind of go out and in some cases defend what appears to be indefensible And here's the thing, I've always thought the president can pick who they want for their administration. But Steve Bannon is a problem he's a white nationalist He sympathizes with white terrorist organizations He's an anti-semi. I don't think he had a role in this administration but the idea is that Trump's only unhappy because he's making him look bad not because of the ideology he brings to the administration The reality is, Is he gonna go anywhere? Let's see

CHAPTER 14 / 47 Discussion

Media Campaign Against Steve Bannon and Sean Spicer

The hosts discuss what they perceive as a concerted media effort to force Steve Bannon and Sean Spicer out of the White House. They observe that even Trump supporters are beginning to call for Spicer's removal, playing into the media's hands. They also highlight how news outlets like CNN and MSNBC recycle press releases from activist groups verbatim, creating a feedback loop of "fake news" designed to discredit the administration.

steve bannon· sean spicer· cnn· white house· press releases

41:43 Okay. We should note a couple of things, we've already done this week. We had our hit list, we've been right on every one of them and they've all gone away including Monica Crowley, Kellyanne Conway, Jeff Sessions that couldn't get rid off but Flynn... Yes. These two that are right under the gun right now are Banyan as I call him and... And sweaty Sean. Yes, and I'm gonna get rid of both of these guys then they're just gonna They're gonna take them make a mountain out of every molehill and whatever they do They're gonna that then I think you proved it This is up there just making him out not of emotion although nobody listens to CNN we have to realize that much but still yes media does the media does and It's really ingenious

42:36 In that people I know who are friends of mine, who are big Trump supporters. They're texting me Spicer's gotta go this guy sucks he's got to go! Yeah i'm looking at you dude named Ben And so they're actually playing right into their hands. Spicer's fun, you know what the problem with Spicer is? It's real simple this is why you get guys like in the Obama administration Obama himself of course president and Josh Earnest taking all those long pauses to say something that won't get him in

43:12 Yeah, and the guy before him were unbelievably... they're unbelievable policies. Jay Carney needed time to collect his words and thoughts so he did not g-g-gaff! That's exactly it by the way thank you Void Zero Everyone who was reporting on the Anne Frank Center did not speak to the Anne Frank Center guy himself They just read his tweet I got a tweet right here Yeah, read it. Must fire here at POTUS at real Donald Trump must fire Sean Spicer now for engaging in Holocaust denial our statement below hashtag anti-Semitism hashtag never again breaking news Sean Spicer denies Hitler gas Jews during the Holocaust Mr President fire Sean Spicer now

44:00 And then it goes on but there's no evidence of any of this actually This is interesting they all took his press release in his afternoon press briefing Sean Spicer invoked Adolf Hitler In describing Syrian President Assad Spicer said quote even Hitler didn't sink to using chemical weapons unquote reaction of Stephen Goldstein executive director the Anne Frank Center for mutual respect colon quote On Passover no less, Sean Spicer has engaged in Holocaust denial. Remember that's what Cuomo said verbatim as if he made it up! The most offensive form of fake news imaginable... Sean Spicer has engaged in Holocaust denial by denying Hitler gassed millions of Jews to death. Spicer statement is the most evil slur upon a group of people we have ever heard from White House press secretary

44:49 Sean Spicer now lacks the integrity to serve as White House press secretary and President Trump must fire him at once. Hashtag anti-Semitism hashtag never again Last clip in the block, let's hear from Jason. Well before you go any further I want to mention something that people don't think generally know and it relates again to their early clip and it relates that press release you just read which is the same thing they said on CNN word for word It's not plagiarism or considered plagiarism when you're taking a press release and kind of recycling it mostly verbatim.

45:30 And so you run into this when you, that's why it's the easiest way to find everyone who has gotten a press release is you could take that little quote at the end where is says, is disgraceful whatever that nasty comment was. Worst thing ever come out of The White House and just take a snippet of that put in Google and you'll find like 10 or 20 thousand versions of it all over the place quoting that guy obviously because they're out to get Spicer And they'll have bylines. It's just like, this is a horrible situation that we're in. Anyway I'm just... Well but this fits all into the opening of the show! This is the APL version of the CPI

CHAPTER 15 / 47 Discussion

Jason Johnson and the Globocop Narrative

MSNBC contributor Jason Johnson discusses the internal rift among Trump supporters regarding the president's shift toward a "Globocop" interventionist foreign policy. Johnson characterizes Steve Bannon as a "white nationalist" symbol whose presence or absence would not fundamentally change the administration's controversial policies, such as the travel ban. The hosts mock the hyperbolic nature of modern political broadcasting.

jason johnson· msnbc· globocop· steve bannon· donald trump

46:11 Right. Yeah, this is our version well let's listen to one last one again this guy Jason Johnson now he's on MSNBC he is at home base so he feels you can really let a rip the Trump supporters are really split I mean you have his far right and alt-right and sort of neo-nazi supporters who said this is terrible and he's getting into the sort of global cop thing that he wouldn't do you globocop This is good. I'll play that again, Globocop. The Trump supporters are really split. You have his far right and alt-right and sort of neo Nazi supporters who said this is terrible and he's getting into the sort of Globocop thing that he wouldn't do. You have some mainline Republicans who think it's great. I've always had a problem with Steve Bannon. I think the president should be able to pick who they want but he's a white nationalist. He sympathizes with white nationalist terrorists. He's a bigot and I don't think that has a healthy role

46:59 and anyone who's going to be president of the United States regardless if he won the popular vote or not. I think even if Steve Bannon were to leave tomorrow, if he were to pack up his bags and go back to Breitbart or wherever else it is that alt-right people go on their spare time. I don't think it would fundamentally change some of the attitudes we're still going to have a president who wants a travel ban you're still going to have a president who ignores attacks on Muslim Americans and African American citizens by white nationalists so Steve Bannon is a symbol but I do not think he changes the office culture even if somehow was removed from that position Alright, Jason Johnson. Tim Car- I love how he says all that and the host just goes... Alright Jason Johnson! Thanks great little rap you did there. That was so much. That was great man. Welcome to modern broadcasting Yes well that was great You just called everyone a fucking Jew hater. That was great awesome Up next

CHAPTER 16 / 47 Discussion

Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner White House Rivalry

CBS News reports on the growing tension between Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner, noting that President Trump ordered a "truce" between the two advisors. Trump publicly minimized Bannon's role in his campaign, asserting that he is his own strategist. The hosts discuss how once the "big media" takes a dislike to a political figure, they are subjected to a relentless campaign of negative coverage.

steve bannon· jared kushner· donald trump· cbs news· white house

47:49 So play my Bannon clip and see if it matches, fits in with what you're doing there. The president's chief strategist Steve Bannon took a seat in the front row of Mr Trumps news conference today but sources close to the president say Bannons role in Mr Trumps inner circle is in jeopardy There's a new political order that being formed out of this Clashes with Jared Kushner, the presidents son-in law and senior advisor have angered Mr Trump as was evident in interview yesterday with the New York Post Steve is a good guy, but I told them to straighten it out or I will the president said after ordering a Bannon Kushner truce late last week The president also tried to minimize Bannon's influence. I like Steve But you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late Mr Trump said I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors and I didn't know Steve. I'm my own strategist

48:44 And where was that from? Who made that? CBS. CBS does a really good job and I have a four-parter coming up showing nothing but, to me fake news and i think this was fake news too it's a concerted effort by all big media companies they want their...I don't know what it is why they hate these guys so much but once they take a dislike to you You're done! MTV still doesn't talk to me That's right, they wouldn't even invite you to their anniversary. Ever! Nothing big. I'm happy to be in the MTV alumni Facebook group. I'm surprised you weren't booted. Oh well...

49:26 Just a matter of time. Yeah, I know i'm very quiet very quiet and once the big media takes a dislike to you...I mean all we're doing on our show is just kind of like pointing it out but once they take a dislike to at that level if you're in amongst them You never gain favor. You have to do all kinds of penance that are just strange. You got to completely disappear and then come back and beg for mercy You know, there's a lot to review here. And I have a couple of Syria clips that I'd like to get in before the break just some general stuff about the attack To me...I mean I'm still thinking this was a grand scheme A great setup We know that part of it was trying to get sweaty Sean to discredit Putin A lot of that Just a lot and we had Rex Tillerson in meeting with Putin made him wait Oh man

CHAPTER 17 / 47 Discussion

Donald Trump Negotiation Tactics and NATO Policy

The hosts analyze Donald Trump's negotiation style, which involves making extreme initial demands before settling for a compromise. This is applied to his stance on NATO, where he initially called the alliance "obsolete" to pressure member nations into meeting the 2% GDP defense spending requirement. Following a meeting with Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Trump declared NATO is "no longer obsolete" after the alliance reportedly increased its focus on terrorism.

donald trump· nato· jens stoltenberg· negotiation· gdp

50:24 The cojones, huh? Man, Rex. Well there was a rumor that first came up which was he was that Putin didn't want to meet with him And, uh... Well I don't know. Who knows? Who the hell knows obviously! Well that was nonsense. I think those are just- these are they're just putting false information into this stream we don't even know if the delay was much of anything you know if we really look at everything that based on this one thing Trump is actually there's a lot of interesting stuff he has gone and we've discussed during debates The way he negotiates is he says, I want everything!!! That was actually pretty good voice

51:01 And then everyone gets pissed off and mad and all emotional, and then he says well I'll take 60%. Yeah. I'll take 55. Okay? I'll take 53 This is how we negotiate so going all the way with everything Janet Yellen I'm not gonna re-elect her. Well, maybe i'll let her stay on and see how it's going What else do we have? No seriously! Seriously this is very interesting to me This gives him the reputation of being a liar Yes well correct but you know what

51:37 I've negotiated with some really good negotiators, and all I felt was man that guy fucked me. He's like...I didn't think about the lying part of it- I didn't lie enough myself! Who gives a crap? This is the guy to lie if you want someone he's really- yeah NATO! Bah screw NATO we're not gonna do anything they're obsolete no way it's never gonna happen bah bah bah bah bah I'll start with that actually Here he is with Jens Stoltenberg. The Secretary General and I agree that other member nations must satisfy their responsibility to contribute 2% of GDP to defense if other countries pay their fair share instead of relying on the United States to make up the difference, we will all be much more secure and our partnership will be made that much stronger

52:25 The Secretary General and I had a productive discussion about what more NATO can do in the fight against terrorism. I complained about that a long time ago, and they made it change. And now they do fight terrorism." I said it was obsolete. It's no longer obsolete. It's my hope that NATO will take on an increased role in supporting our Iraqi partners in their battle against ISIS. And when he said that, Jens Stoltenberg who was the general supreme leader commander of NATO... He's the secretary-general Yeah his face lit up!

CHAPTER 18 / 47 Discussion

CBS News Scott Pelley Fake News Takedown

Adam Curry presents a "takedown" of CBS News anchor Scott Pelley, accusing him of delivering fake news regarding Trump's NATO press conference. Pelley claimed Stoltenberg gave Trump a "history lesson" about NATO's long fight against terrorism. However, the actual footage shows Stoltenberg agreeing with Trump and acknowledging that the alliance must do more in the global fight against terrorism, contradicting Pelley's narrative.

scott pelley· cbs news· jens stoltenberg· nato· fake news· terrorism

53:05 He could not stop him. Yeah, because all of the free money... Now you introduce a clip that I have to take a sidetrack on because this is my takedown of CBS. Let's do it bro! That clip was key to this report which is very interesting This is the report from CBS The clip is called Take Down One Awkward Moment There was an awkward moment today in the news conference with the NATO Secretary General when Mr. Trump claimed that NATO was fighting terrorism only after Mr. Trump's recent complaints They made a change, the president said Now they do fight terrorism

53:48 Well, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg responded with a history lesson reminding Mr. Trump of NATO's 16 years fighting al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan at a cost the secretary general said of more than 1,000 lives All right now he presents this as though Trump is making these comments that you just played That clip that you just played was what they're talking about And then he got a history lesson because he's full of crap about them changing course and fighting terrorism and all the rest of it. So I went to listen to what he said, because this doesn't sound quite right cuz I don't imagine somebody turning on Trump and giving him a history lesson is shaking their finger at him as it was implied in that clip by Scott Kelly who had no backup clips to prove any of it. Of course not

54:42 So now here's the part about, this is the part two. This is Stoltenberg discussing their helping them the United States in Afghanistan and it wasn't about terrorism he never mentions the word terrorism there was nothing about terrorisms whatsoever It was about helping us during our moment of need after 9-11 and it was very calm very passive in a funny way. It wasn't a history lesson, it was part of the two of these guys giving their long lectures as long boring lectures at the podium's. So let's listen to this and this is what Peli is calling a history lesson reminding him we've always been fighting terrorism. In predictable world it is important to have friends and allies and in NATO America has the best friends and the best allies in the world

55:36 Together, we represent half of the world's economic and military power. No other superpower has ever had such a strategic advantage This makes the United States stronger and safer We saw that after the 9-11 attacks on the United States That was the first time NATO invoked our Article 5 to the Collective Defense Clause Allies sent AWACS surveillance planes to help patrol American skies. And we launched NATO's biggest military operation ever in Afghanistan. Hundreds of thousands of Europeans and Canadian soldiers have served shoulder-to-shoulder with American troops More than a thousand have paid the ultimate price

56:35 Earlier today I laid a wreath at Arlington National Cemetery in tribute to the fallen. Now this was according to Peli, the lecture. In fact it was a of that listen to the takedown NATO part three, where he actually mentions that yes Trump kind of turned us on to this terrorism thing and maybe we're going to do a better job at fighting it. Part one.

57:21 with training for Iraqi forces in their fight against terrorists and more intelligence sharing. And you are right, we have established a new division for intelligence which enhances our ability to fight terrorism and it's called the CPI working together in the alliance to fight terrorism in even more effective way." Yeah! You're right he says Yes, you're right How did Peli get this? The way Peli presented it The way Peli presented it was fake news and let's play part four where he again reiterates the fact that Trump and NATO is now kind of focusing a little more on terrorism. But we agreed today, you an I, that NATO can and must do more in the global fight against terrorism In the fight against terrorism training local forces is one of the best weapons we have

58:14 NATO has the experience, the expertise and the staying power to make a real difference. Sounds like he got The Riot Act read to him! How does that even remotely resemble what Peli claimed? This is kind of like you know the way the web works You read the headline... Okay Hey did you see that?! Hey do you see what Peli said? Yeah it's crazy Yes people don't care We're headline readers

58:52 I wonder whether Pelly knew that he was delivering fake news. He probably never even saw the package Well, there was no package it was just a Zuriit It was just a straight read right off the prompter There you go So he was reading and yeah, he had no idea Oh jeez As an aside Surprise surprise! Its show day US military dropped a Moab 21 1500 pound bomb in Afghanistan Target was an ISIS tunnel and cave complex. Wow, harkens back to 2002! I think 2001-2002? Yeah Another fractal Here's a funny thing Do you remember when after the 9 11 attacks there was all these magazines Time... They had these pictures that they... I wish somebody must have kept some of these

CHAPTER 19 / 47 Discussion

MOAB Bombing in Afghanistan and Tunnel Complex

The U.S. military dropped a GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) bomb, known as the "Mother of All Bombs," on an ISIS tunnel and cave complex in Afghanistan. The hosts compare this to the 2002 era of "smoking out" Al-Qaeda from Tora Bora. They recall the elaborate, possibly exaggerated, media diagrams of underground terrorist factories and airports used during the early years of the War on Terror.

moab· afghanistan· isis· tunnels· pentagon

58:52 I wonder whether Pelly knew that he was delivering fake news. He probably never even saw the package Well, there was no package it was just a Zuriit It was just a straight read right off the prompter There you go So he was reading and yeah, he had no idea Oh jeez As an aside Surprise surprise! Its show day US military dropped a Moab 21 1500 pound bomb in Afghanistan Target was an ISIS tunnel and cave complex. Wow, harkens back to 2002! I think 2001-2002? Yeah Another fractal Here's a funny thing Do you remember when after the 9 11 attacks there was all these magazines Time... They had these pictures that they... I wish somebody must have kept some of these

59:54 drawings of the underground tunnels and they had like factories underground, they had shipping departments. They're bomb manufacturing places. They had the underground airports for all practical purposes you look at it as go holy crap! And there was lots to talk about buster... Oh that they're too deep to blow up? You can't hit them with anything. Yeah we're gonna smoke em out. We're gonna smoke him out. Smoke him out. Smoke him out It was unbelievable bullcrap Well here we are again Interesting. I think yet again, you watch...I think Trump is going to be heralded for this. Remember that Americans we're bloodthirsty man even the Democrats all dimensions were bloodthirsty. Now maybe we should take a break because i do want to get into the idea which Deutsche Welle actually mentions and also RTRT obviously that the whole thing

CHAPTER 20 / 47 Discussion

Donald Trump Chocolate Cake and Syria Missile Strike

In an interview with Maria Bartiromo, Donald Trump describes the moment he informed Chinese President Xi Jinping of the missile strike on Syria while they were eating "the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake." Trump mistakenly told Bartiromo the missiles were headed to Iraq before correcting himself to Syria. He emphasized the "unbelievable" technology of the 59 Tomahawk missiles, claiming they all hit their targets.

donald trump· xi jinping· syria· tomahawk missiles· mar-a-lago· chocolate cake

1:00:50 This whole thing with the attack, this crappy attack on Syria that didn't even damage the runways but they sent 60 missiles. 59 that actually took off. You know, that's disputable and I'll wait until after the break if you want but... What's disputable? It was 59 missiles and all 59 made their target Yeah! Do you ever see the map that they show, the overhead map of where it hit? They only show about six places Bombed here. Do you want to hear my proof? You want to hear my proof So you think all 59 got and hit the target now, I don't say I think that I think that that is what the president says Now you told me and I was surprised you said it was 60 but one rolled off the boat

1:01:37 It went, it was a dud. It went off and didn't take him. Splashed in the drain. Yeah. Oh shoot man! Well I don't know... oh well. Where'd it go? Ah its over on this side. Let's get away from it incase it blows. I was sitting at the table We had finished dinner were now having dessert Now he is talking about when he gave the order He was at Mar-a-Lago with um The Chinese president whose pronoun is Z I'm reliably informed And they were having a beautiful, beautiful chocolate cake. This guy loves food let me tell you that! I was sitting at the table we had finished dinner and now we're having dessert... ...and we have the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake that you've ever seen. Yummy! The best chocolate cake imaginable this was the best chocolate cake anyone could have. In fact i'm making chocolate cake great again I don't care what you say President Xi was enjoying it

1:02:33 And I was given the message from the generals that the ships are locked and loaded. What do you do? And we made a determination to do it, so the missiles were on the way and I said Mr President let me explain something to you this is during dessert We've just fired 59 missiles all of which hit by the way unbelievable from hundreds miles away Okay okay you win It does get a little better if you're interested in the rest of it. Yeah, no play on. Yes, sure. Unmanned? Brilliant! It's so incredible. It's brilliant. It's genius. Our technology our equipment is better than anybody by a factor of five I mean what we have in terms of technology... Five?! Factor of five were 500% better than you!? I don't care- our technology our technology of killing people IS THE BEST!! Nobody can even come close to competing. You want to kill somebody call us Now we're gonna start getting it

1:03:33 because, you know the military's been cut back and depleted so badly. Dumb! Now this is so dumb he should not do this. A little advice Mr President don't try to slip in all your little talking points all the time because it sounds dumb yeah this is great but we're gonna get competition because woohoo! We are getting it Let me roll it back so you can hear that. You're right, I think that was a huge mistake there was a tactical error you can't go on we're the best at this and 5x better than anybody else but we suck? Yeah exactly Does that make sense? Well no its dumb Its dumb Nobody can even come close to competing now were going to start getting

1:04:14 because, you know the military has been cut back and depleted so badly by the past administration. And by the war in Iraq which was another disaster So what happens as I said we've just launched 15... I think he uses that kind of shit and i'll call it that as a thinking space You know, because he said this so many times and you know how this works. This is why we say dumb things as well. You know fact of the matter end of the day Of course all these things I'm sure what we try to break they have it He does nothing do that has the wrong people around him curry Dvorak for the White House nine Missiles heading to Iraq. Well, we headed just Syria now This was The mother-of-all fuckups. I'm sorry. I'm cursing it's a Tourette's. I'll stop listen to what he says here This is really bad missiles

1:05:02 I'm back a little bit more. I'm sorry here we go as i said, we've just launched 59 Missiles heading to iraq well you headed to syria yes Okay does the truth want to come out remember? We know there's an incredible build-up of troops in kuwait city right now Do you think that he means Iraq that he did how about this for an idea oh We've heard all the analysis of the, you know only 24 missiles made it. Maybe the other 20, 25 were sent to Iraq! Very possible... very possible These were the duds that landed on- That'd be 35, my numbers are wrong It's 24 to Syria to blow up a few things around the airport and then 35 Yeah To blow up who knows what in Iraq Nobody is going to report on it because there's no reporting at all going on What happens as I said we just launched 59

1:05:56 missiles heading to Iraq. Well, headed to Syria? Yes. Thanks Maria! Heading toward Syria And I want you to know that. Because, I didn't want him to go home we're almost finished Wow! You hear that little NLP thing there? I want you to know that What does he wants us to know Iraq or Syria He was saying that's what he said to the Chinese guy Ah! The sheep Got it Because i didn't wanted him to go home We are almost finished It was a full day in Palm Beach We are almost finished We went shopping and had facials What did he do finish his dessert and then they say you know the guy who just had dinner with just attacked How does he react

1:06:32 So he paused for 10 seconds and then he asked the interpreter to please say it again. I didn't think that was a good sign in other words, it was I Think I think that's exactly what happened you guys like what? What did he just say don't enough ten seconds And then he asked the interpreter to please say it again. I didn't think that was a good sign And he said to me, anybody that uses gases you could almost say or anything else. But anybody that was so brutal and uses gases to do that to young children... Children babies babies babies babies It's okay He agreed? He was okay with it. He was okay with it Fabulous piece of work I think Maria Bartiromo deserves a Peabody Really good

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No Agenda Producer Credits and Baronet Promotions

The hosts thank their executive producers for their financial support under the "value for value" model. Dame Kathy Samunich is recognized for a $500 donation. Sir Greg is promoted to the rank of Baron of the Chicago Portage following a $1,000 cumulative contribution. The segment highlights the community-driven nature of the show's funding.

dame kathy samunich· sir greg· chicago portage· value for value· donations

1:07:33 But with that, as we will continue soon... I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. Reddisley stands for CBS Takedown Dvorak! In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air sums of water dames and knights out there In the morning everybody in our war room no agenda stream calm everyone really helping out today appreciate that also in the morning to Let me see I believe it was a walk walk walk walk. Why go back? Walk brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 1 niner We kill title of that one and this was very interesting piece of art we found in the evergreens, I believe

1:08:15 We've had people protesting with signs, a little Teletubby Trump there in the corner. Just a nice piece and it was very evergreen-y Yeah sometimes it's just a nice piece and we appreciate that whack whack and we appreciate all the work that our producers do. Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of the submitted art or you can submit yourself participate in the show! Yay! It's like romper room! It's great And we have a couple people to thank on our value for value. We have a number of people to thank for producing this show three executive producers beginning with Dame Kathy Samunich in West Chicago, Illinois who came with $500 check. And so she wasn't swayed by the newsletter she just sent five hundred dollars and She says I'm using and she wrote it wrote a note. She says I'm using a black pen today instead of orange Thank you In doing the calculus

1:09:11 Sir Greg hit $1,000 donation on our last donation of 500. So I forgot to mention it last time so he would like to be the... You have to write this down because i did not send this to Eric. He would like to be the baron of the Chicago Portage. Chicagoportage.org C-I-G-C-H-I-C-O-P-A-R-T-A-G-E dot org This 500 donation goes toward my Baronette My baronet stage so next donation will be my promotion. So I need this again because I was doing all kinds Okay, so sir Greg yeah is now the Baron he's now a Baron of the Chicago portage PRT AGE Okay got it Fantastic. So my next donation would be my promotion shows have been great and

1:10:11 The two universes give a lot to deconstruct. Sincerely, Dame Cathy." All right? Thank you. A lot. Thank you! Yes, Dame Cathy... Did she not want any...? She didn't have any note about anything. Just give her a gratuitous uh... Karma karma karma. You've got karma. Her slot car in Loomis California 333-33 and belated HBD to our fearless leader from Sir Slot Car. Duke Nussbaum, we should have a Nussbaum call out right there. Yeah we should Do you think I have that? I thought you had the Nussbaum from... Well, there's so many things going on, I apologize Did he ask for that? No but he did ask for... There ya go He added some clips that you should have

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Listener Donations and Career Karma Requests

Various listeners are acknowledged for their donations, including Evan Roberts and Jerry Zack. Richard Bangs contributes while sharing a personal story about his family's struggles. The hosts grant "karma" for job searches, health issues, and even a "peaceful dog death," maintaining the show's tradition of acknowledging the personal lives of its producers.

evan roberts· jerry zack· richard bangs· karma· jobs· cancer

1:11:11 That he wanted to have uh... Yeah but that's for l- Oh yes. I do, we should actually read that now because it's a little weird in the birthday segment No i can do it in the birthday segment actually It's fine let's not talk about Fight Club We'll do it in the birthday segment Okay good I got the special one Yes I got it Received okay I'm back Okay, he just wants whatever nest bomb you got laying around. You get the good one? Yeah Anyway those are our executive producers for shows at 920 Evan Roberts in Sarasota Florida came with $274 and 88 cents I'm ITM gentlemen. I'm the proud brother of Baronet Haggis I hope this donation become a staple as it's the best universe best podcast in the universe in T9

1:11:57 I don't know. Tampa, no area and no agenda listeners let's meet up also jobs coming from my brother cheers fellas okay jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs karma you know tampa would be a great place to have a meeting yeah Yeah, you're still working on the train museum. You did a test run didn't you? I went to the train museum and i'm going to discuss that probably in the second half sometime It was very interesting Very interesting Oh, I can't wait to hear about it good. I'll remind you Jerry Zack in Electra Texas 25325 just made two donations for this show An idiot boob donation as my producership was on a long hiatus And this second donation to bump my overall contribution to a full 333 dot 33 oh

1:12:47 So we should probably move him to the executive producer list. I'll make a little note here... And he can all use some no-confrict karma! Everybody can use that! There's no real conflict! You've got karma. Everybody needs no conflict karma? Richard Bangs, $220 Parts unknown. Sorry for not donating sooner, I'm just incredibly selfish and i want my proverbial cake and eat it iei only donate for the credits while this payment makes me not a douche i am a douche for not donating a smaller amount sooner but karma isn't dependent on your intentions as long as it does good It's ridiculous to have to send the plea you do for money with such an outstanding unparalleled product

1:13:41 That's one of my biggest fears. See the subject line? This is the end! Don't get any ideas, John. It's Mr Clickbait. The shows have been great in fact My Dimension D for Democrat hence my anonymous donation. No... My anonymous donations wife had almost exploded in the car when you guys started criticizing the Trump family White House Ivanka and Jared What you've highlighted. I'm sorry stop, stop when you started criticizing them it says you guys yeah okay i got him yeah okay when I started criticizing almost exploded uh what you've highlighted with the unbelievable rigidness of the dimensions and their inability to sway from their

1:14:33 faction stances is just fantastic. They truly are slaves." So he's a Democrat who has broken loose from Dimension B. Oh yeah Huh now that now for the real douchebags I'm unemployed with a 16 month old and two week old mother going through a breast cancer geez man to Geriatric dogs who are peeing everywhere one of which is now eating other dog? Throwing it up inside That's double trouble right there. Oh my good after that he says, and I'm still donating oh Need the following karmas human resources f cancer jobs peaceful dog death. What is that? What is peaceful dog death you

1:15:18 I think that would just be a karma. And anyway, peaceful dog death is equivalent and that's not one MILF baby to close it out. You know guys are well connected in the tech world so this goes for you too if anyone out there is looking for a seasoned enterprise software guy fortune 100 experience public and private I'll have these producer credits my LinkedIn early next week outstanding John you go answer the phone and I'll play this series for them instead of the Peaceful Dog Death will give you this for your dog someone on second Or is it? Yeah. That's one mother I'd like to f***ing get! F***ing get some of that water, goddammit! You've got karma What were they selling? Uh was the pharmacies uh a robocall telling me i have a prescription to pick up So important That's the kind-that's the kind of calls you know when I was young This call is for Mr John C Dvorak Your Viagra is ready for pickup

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Burnaby Washington and New Jersey Producer Credits

The hosts continue reading donation notes, including a $200 contribution from Mark Linds in Burnaby (noting the confusion between Washington and British Columbia). Sir Crash EMT in New Jersey is thanked for his support and a recommendation of Jocko Willink's content. The segment concludes with a reminder that these producer credits are "real" and can be used on professional resumes.

mark linds· sir crash emt· jocko willink· donations· producer credits

1:16:20 Before we use it. I used to get phone calls all the time during the era of real press and real public relations in the high-tech industry, and now they just blog about everything and expect you to pick it up. Things have changed. Yes! Not for the better. You used to get press releases, a complimentary account... Everything. A lot of stuff. Things have changed. It's not as interesting though So that was anonymous. But Mark Lins in Burnaby, Washington I don't have... Do we have an email from him? I don't have anything. Oh let me check. L-Y-N-D-S. No it doesn't sound familiar but let me see. Nah I'm coming up with nothing. What? L-Y-N-D-S. Let's try L-Y-N-D-S. Tomorrow Kwasanza. No I got..I don't have anything from him.

1:17:17 Check the archive. No, I got nothing nothing okay? Well 200 bucks from Burnaby, Washington. Give us some karma you've got a note send it to us You've got karma hook you up Is there a Burnaby Washington? I thought it'd be, uh... It's in B.C.? I had no idea. No idea. Sir Crash EMT our buddy in Wachung New Jersey $200 Happy ITM let's hope Kim Jong Young keeps it up in his pants this weekend Jobs karma for the wife calling out Dave B as a douchebag But thanks for the- Thanks for the

1:17:58 Jocko recommendation? What was the jocko recommendation. Oh, maybe something Dave B did I'll keep hitting them in the mouth for the best podcast in the universe and certainly sir crash EMT some wifey jobs karma jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs karma And that is our group of well-wishers and executive associate executive producers to show 9-2-0. Yeah, nine twenty the big show is it 920? That's right baby. Whoo 20 we're super super 928 over here nice Thank you executive producers and associate executive producers for keeping the show rolling this is very important cannot be

1:18:45 Overstressed. Yes, that's true So of course these are credits that you can use anywhere they're real real credits This is an official production with former Hollywood guys But we're good enough so You can put that anywhere where credits are accepted executive producer the no agenda show or associate executive producer The No Agenda Show episode 920 looks cool might get you laid probably not but maybe if put on your link and you'll get a job You might get a job, getting late is another issue. And remember us on Sunday for our next show! Devorac.org slash N-A. And of course you need to always be out there doing the good work you do of propagating the formula Our formula is this... We go out we hit people in the mouth Shut up slave!

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RT and Deutsche Welle Analysis of Syria Gas Attack

The hosts examine international reporting from RT and Deutsche Welle regarding the chemical attack in Idlib, Syria. They highlight that the White House report relied heavily on "open source" social media videos rather than classified intelligence. Former officials Michael Maloof and Lawrence Wilkerson suggest the U.S. assessment was politically motivated to shift the domestic focus away from the Russia investigation.

rt· deutsche welle· opcw· idlib· syria· intelligence

1:19:41 So let's listen to a couple of things from RT, which is their take on the gas attacks and all the rest of it. I have two clips and then a follow-up clip which kind of confirms what RT says in that follow up clip comes from Deutsche Welle as long you get out of United States out of our news. You get some different news don't ya? Let's play gas attack untold stories. These are stories that weren't discussed by the mainstream media in this country. The White House has also released a declassified report on the Idlib chemical attack, it blames Damascus for orchestrating the assault and accuses Moscow of covering up for the Syrian government

1:20:24 However, the four-page document says that US Connata publicly released all available intelligence information used to make the assessment while relying on quote open source accounts and broadcasted local videos. The report comes as the United Nations says a joint investigation by the UN and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons will only begin after the chemical weapons watchdog confirms an attack took place The fact-finding mission of the OPCW began looking into the incidents, into the horrific incidents that we saw. They are going on their work. The way this works is that once they're able to confirm there's been use of chemical weapons then the joint UN OPCW, Joint Investigative Mechanism kicks in

1:21:21 Now, when's the last time our mainstream media even discussed the OPCW which is the lynchpin for the whole gassing of anything? Never. Never! Never. Never. Let's play part two. Moscow has also stressed the importance of the UN probe into the attack, a former Pentagon official Michael Maloof has questioned the report released by The White House as it fails to show what information actually supports the assessment It's only an assessment. It is based upon, they say intelligence but once again the intelligence itself remains classified and we have no idea what the certainty of that information is or what the sourcing of it is. It just reminds me all over again of 2003 when I was at the Pentagon

1:22:11 and We have the deep state or the intelligence community really having an axe to grind against Russia. And it has reignited the whole notion of overthrow, and where President Trump himself made a statement—no regime change during the campaign. Earlier we spoke to Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell

1:22:51 In 2003, he was responsible for reviewing CIA information used to prepare Powell for his Security Council speech on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Mr Wilkerson told us he believes the US assessment on the alleged Idlib chemical attack is simply politically motivated The government has jumped to conclusions with regard to the provenance of that particular attack. And let me add that I think I know their motivation for having done so, it was domestic. They wanted to get the whole Russia issue if you will off the domestic agenda and they succeeded majorly in doing that. Yes

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Putin's Response and the Trump-Russia Distraction Theory

Vladimir Putin characterized the U.S. reaction to the Syria gas attack as a "boring" repeat of the 2003 Iraq narrative. The hosts speculate that the tension between the U.S. and Russia is a manufactured distraction to allow the Trump administration to operate without "Putin lover" accusations. They suggest that Rex Tillerson's private meetings with Putin may involve strategic coordination regarding regional pipelines and political survival.

vladimir putin· rex tillerson· syria· distraction· bromance· pipelines

1:23:32 Absolutely. And this really doesn't harken back to 2003, this hearkens back to Bill Clinton with the Monica Lewinsky scandal. He pushed that down on what was a level of importance by bombing Serbia or starting that war in the Balkans. It's what you do! And so this is an old play. In fact, Putin said something to that... I have it here! I have it here! Oh would you like me to do the voice? Because I can speak Russian these days So I'll do that There was no translator but they had a subtype Yes This is the same It's boring ladies We've all seen this before It's like with Iraq

1:24:19 That's what he said yeah, he very poorly done but not you but the poop Putin could have been funnier, but he said this is the old script now I have this DW a kicker to the idea that the attack was to change the topic rather than having anything do with anything and This uh? This is Deutsche Welle. And this is just listening into them you can see that the topic has been changed well It's certainly not great especially considering this bromance that that Maya mentioned Trump mania is certainly over and over yesterday Putin said that

1:24:59 But the level of trust with the Obama administration was much higher than with the Trump administration. So, pretty harsh words there. open, bridging differences. So we'll see what happens. The interesting fact as well this week is that there's going to be a meeting towards the end of the week between the Russian foreign minister, the Syrian foreign minister and the Iranian foreign minister so that's kind of defying the ultimatum that Tillerson set between deciding between Russia's allies their and the West. We'll see whether that worsens the tensions." And there was another piece to this

1:25:44 Which was China! I mean, come on. It's so obvious. China and then North Korea... Trump is on a tear He knows what he's doing. I'm telling you he knows what he's doing You may not like it, you may not like it. I certainly don't like at all. Tillerson also who's playing this game he also says the worst were the worst relations ever now I'm wondering if when he had his two-hour meeting with Putin that was completely private except for a translator I suppose Whether or not they talked about this and saying, here's what we have to do. We're in deep trouble for being like trying to hook up with you guys and maybe make a peaceful world because the public doesn't like it, the media doesn't like it nobody likes it and they're just hounding us and makes it look like its not working This is not working! We have to do kind of strategy that's a distraction of the week Is this exactly what I said on the last show?

1:26:42 Yeah, yeah. Okay but this is just proof you were just surmising I'm from the future what are you talking about? Yeah well But all of that's all that you just said was proceeded by Yo Broseph listen up because they have bromance I'm sure Tillerson was talking to Putin, he says don't worry. Don't worry Mr Trump and you can still have sex but it'll be sometime probably after this blows over if you know what i mean. Well no! No he says don't worry. You get to lay your pipe big boy that's what it was. Don't worry your pipeline is good. You're good to go. No worries

1:27:19 You just take care of the Turks? In fact, that's exactly what went on. And then they come out with this dour face and Lavrov is one of those guys who wears his emotions on his shoulder and he didn't seem like he was acting. Isn't the phrase on his sleeve? Yes! Another phrase from the Shays another phrase from the Shays. Where does that where's his emotions on his sleeves? Sleeve or sleeves, where does that come from and who knows this another dumb phrase we were gonna have a book out on this Well, we won't do anything until someone gives us a phrase from The Shays jingle That's the only way things I know that's waiting phrase from The Shays people come on We need it now. Do you want to just little I'm just gonna finish with this is through this whole thing is

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Rex Tillerson on Syria Policy and Regime Change

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson clarifies that the U.S. priority remains the defeat of ISIS rather than the immediate removal of Bashar al-Assad. He emphasizes the principle of self-determination, stating that the Syrian people must ultimately decide Assad's fate. Tillerson cites the "violent regime change" in Libya as a cautionary tale of the chaos that can follow such interventions.

rex tillerson· bashar al-assad· isis· syria· regime change· mosul

1:28:08 Is a it's just bullcrap. I have no tillerson. I said you said it well It's not bull crap its its finely tuned Bull crap Look, Democrats were saying oh Trump's not that bad. Oh okay he did something good. The Democrats are idiots! He's back he's global, globocop again good we like that that's what we want We wanna have nice no nations no borders all of that Here's Tillerson on Face the Press or Meet the Nation whatever that show is called Is it a priority of US policy to get him out of power? Our priority in Syria, John really hasn't changed. I think the president's been quite clear first and foremost we must defeat ISIS and i would say that the military progress both in Syria and Iraq has been remarkable since President Trump inauguration. We continue to liberate areas. We are making tremendous progress in liberating Mosul in Iraq working with coalition forces

1:29:08 working with allies and we're moving to position to liberate Raqqa, and continue to contain ISIS. And the threat that ISIS really does present to the homeland and other homelands of allies around the world. So in terms of President Assad you had said there has been no change in policy as a result of this attack so it is still true then that his fate is determined by the Syrian people? Yes, John. I think you know obviously the United States own founding principles are self-determination And I think what the United States and our allies want to do is to enable for the Syrian people to make that determination We've seen what violent regime change looks like in Libya and and the kind of chaos that can be unleashed and indeed the kind of

1:29:57 of that we can navigate a political outcome in which the Syrian people, in fact will determine Bashar al-Assad's fate and his legitimacy. I think the question of how his criminal actions are dealt with is something that will be part of their process." Bussier but sure. Oh, yeah, but she all Assad He's a dead man I would have to say yes you're right he's a dead man that Russians don't have to kill him and they'll it'll be something

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Lindsey Graham and the Syria No-Fly Zone Plan

Senator Lindsey Graham advocates for a more aggressive U.S. stance, comparing ISIS to Nazi Germany and Assad to Imperial Japan. Graham proposes training Syrian opposition forces to take out Assad and establishing a no-fly zone, warning Russia that their planes will be shot down if they interfere. The hosts speculate that the ultimate goal of these maneuvers is to secure a pipeline route through Homs and Aleppo.

lindsey graham· syria· isis· no-fly zone· russia· pipelines

1:30:42 It'll be, I think it will be a fake terrorist bomber. A guy with the vest on or something that blows up the office and kills him. Now they probably won't kill him and they have to come in shoot them in their head but that wont' be part of the story. In fact maybe that two hour discussion was about how are we gonna kill this guy? That's a kind of cold-bloodedness we're talking about with some of these do we use the umbrella with the pin or what? Do we do the pricker the pricker. We use the pricker we can get close to it Probably the Pricker won't kill you right although there I guess you know I'm gonna get you later You get sick for us, it's very very effective Lindsey Graham heard all this and thought something really different he thought whoa

1:31:25 ISIS over Assad. Both Secretary Tillerson and Ambassador Haley have indicated ISIS is still the priority, what say you Senator? I think ISIS should be Germany and Assad should be Japan like World War II analogies here. Accelerate the demise of ISIL their direct threat to the homeland Assads not but i've never been more encouraged by the Trump administration than today Ambassador Haley just said on your program, you'll never end the war with Assad in power. So that means regime change is now the policy of the Trump administration. That's at least what I've heard. You need more American troops to accelerate the demise of ISIL? We're relying too much on the Kurds

1:32:07 more American forces, five or six thousand were to trap the regional fighters to destroy ISIL. You go! Safe haven quickly so people can regroup inside of Syria then you train the opposition to go after Assad that's how he is taken out by his own people with our efforts and you tell the Russians if you continue to bomb the people we trained will shoot you down I think that's exactly the plan That's exactly the plan They're gonna train some rebels, John like you just said. And they're going to take them... the rebels will take them out! The rebels will take them out and then Russia will be like okay no fly zone fine we are going to start building that pipeline That's all I need You watch the No Fly Zone will be nowhere near Homs or Aleppo I mean sorry um Aleppo-Homes uh

1:32:55 I think home is homes above Aleppo or Aleppo above homes. Now, I can't remember. You don't remember? I think Holmes is higher maybe not well not maybe level. I can't remember there will be no on your map oh gosh you're right what am I have a big giant map in front of us at all times and then it's huge head of Woodrow Wilson It's my big map as a Syria is on the wall let me take a look for ya here we go to the Googles and We have need to zoom in homes... This Lindsey Graham guy just bothers me to no end. Aleppo is higher, but wait! No it has to be... It's Holmes because it would go through Holmes to the port in Tardis I think that's how they wanted unless they want to bring it all way up north but I doubt that so I'm pretty sure it supposed to go straight across. This usually some...it's usually available this information on various websites and don't they're not politically talk about where these pipelines are there was some other news about Lindsey Graham

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the Lindsey Graham Gaffe

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg mistakenly referred to Senator Lindsey Graham as one of the "women of the Senate" during an event. Adam Curry admits to making a similar mistake years ago when he referred to Fleetwood Mac's Lindsey Buckingham as a "girl" during an interview. The hosts attribute Ginsburg's error to her age and the ambiguity of the name Lindsey.

ruth bader ginsburg· lindsey graham· dianne feinstein· gaffe· lindsey buckingham

1:33:53 That was very interesting. That is gay? No, but he... well kind of uh listen to this this is a Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Let's hope members of Congress the members that Allegheny College has already honored Vice President Joe Biden and Senator John McCain the women of the Senate Senators Dianne Feinstein and Lindsey Graham Nice. I don't know if you could be, I could barely hear that but i did catch the punchline The women of the Senate including Dianne Feinstein and Lindsey Graham who she you know...I think this woman is so senile, Ginsburg that she saw the name Lindsey and assumed it was a woman Now I must confess to something! I gotta confess. I have made a very similar mistake And I wish I actually looked for this

1:34:54 This is really bad. I was interviewing Fleetwood Mac, who was in the studio one time and there wasn't a complete reunion but it wasn't that was there was Mick Fleetwood It's just Mick Fleetwood right here He had some song out with you know as a crazy drum song of course And I said hey you guys ever gonna get big to get back together? What are the girls think you know like create You know like Lindsey and Chrissy McVie anyone Really? Because of course, Lindsey Buckingham is a guy and I did the exact same thing. But but I'm not... You recovered! I'm not senile. I thought that was just a great piece It was very funny Very very embarrassing to say that Okay Before we get out on that topic completely you have one last clip which is the major Garrett rap

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Trump's "Armada" and North Korea Strategy

Donald Trump tells Maria Bartiromo that the U.S. is sending a "very powerful" armada and submarines toward North Korea. He contrasts his approach with the Obama administration, stating he will not telegraph military moves months in advance. The hosts discuss the psychological warfare aspect of Trump's statements and the use of military "B-roll" to project power without necessarily engaging in conflict.

donald trump· north korea· armada· submarines· maria bartiromo· china

1:35:50 This is a rap with it with a zinger. The president said today the world is nasty and a mess he could have been describing turmoil here at the White House nevertheless Scott, the President remains confident declaring by the time he has finished the world will be a better place to live So they like this. They'll talk about something like the mess, oh it's a mess at the White House you know this rumor big battle going on and then they Then they ridicule him with good with the compliment there at CBA guys can do this and they do well They ridicule you with a comment with a compliment yes Just sticking with that this Maria Bartiromo interview Fox Business was pretty good And of course we had some more messages going out now particular towards China

1:36:38 And I think this is another fabulous strategy. China, your currency manipulators... Oh well no, I'm not going to call them currency manipulating anymore and I kind of but I don't know if they're still manipulating it there everything seems to be so broken there. I don't know if they are trying to keep it up. It appears that yes that's what they're trying to do. It appears as if the international currency traders are now responsible for where that thing's sitting. And it's not really being manipulated like it was, I'd say five to ten years ago In addition to that, you know like hey we're gonna make Putin look bad here for a moment just so it might be handy for you. I don't know how are you feeling about that? Would you like some more chocolate cake is it beautiful cake? There's babies in here Best ever! There's babies in this cake It's so great. It's like baby angel food baby cakes Little babies Oh yeah and if you don't take care of North Korea then were going to take care of it That what's gonna happen What are doing right now in terms of North Korea

1:37:44 You never know, do you? You never know. That's all you're gonna say. Beautiful! That is such a departure from anything I've heard in my lifetime. Just like... I don't know! You'll never know what i'm going to do! Ha ha! ...about the military. Yeah. I'm not like Obama where they talk about it four months we're raiding- We are going hit Mosul and then the meantime they get ready and like you never so look with this still fighting most of us supposed to last for week and now they've been fighting it for many months and so many more people died. I don't want to talk about it. We're sending an armada. Very powerful

1:38:20 This is to know what this has cost millions of dollars to do all this. The guy's wasting our money No, I think he's doing a very smart thing He saying yeah you know and when we are mobilizing were mobilizing everybody have we got well listen? I don't want to talk about it We are sending an armada powerful we have submarines We have submarines. See what you say is we have, we have submarines. You don't actually have to send the submarines to say we've got submarines that's what I do. You don't have to send anything and just give them some B roll from the Department of Propaganda in the Pentagon and who knows these ships could all be in port for all we know really? Yeah he should have a DJ next to him...the president yeah I'll explain what I mean here we go.

1:39:11 We have submarines. Very powerful, far more powerful... In fact during this entire interview it was a split screen box on the left with the president talking box on the right with our beautiful missiles and the aircraft carrier that I can tell you and we have the best military people on earth and i will say this He is doing the wrong thing. Do you think he's mentally fit? I don't know I don't know him no, but he's doing the wrong thing now that was a good answer You would never say that So and now China is making moves they're moving troops toward the border there no longer importing their coal

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China's Panda Diplomacy in the Netherlands

While the U.S. focuses on North Korea, the Netherlands experienced "Panda fever" as two giant pandas arrived at Schiphol Airport from China. The acquisition of the animals followed 16 years of lobbying. The hosts joke that China uses pandas as high-stakes bargaining chips in international trade deals and diplomacy.

china· netherlands· pandas· schiphol airport· diplomacy

1:39:59 Yeah, I give him credit for that. I give him credit! There's nobody else has gotten China to do crap about North Korea That's not true! The Dutch made China do crap Oh yeah? This is news to me This obviously did not make CBS You better believe it this is why you listen to the No Agenda show Two spies from China arrived at Schiphol airport yesterday in the Netherlands. Two spies and people came out to see him. Panda fever has gripped the Netherlands after two arrived at Schiphol Airport on their way to a specially constructed enclosure at a Dutch zoo. Children wearing panda hats welcomed them and waved bamboo branches, the pandas staple food

1:40:44 It's taken 16 years of hard lobbying to obtain the animals who will be housed in a zoo complex named Pandasia. See, you send us your spies we lock them up and we ridicule them and we throw... We taunt them with bamboo sticks Those are panda bears Yes So they got couple pandas that actually takes a lot of work Yeah The Chinese dole out those pandas. It's like they're... They don't, they don't dole out. A better trade deal you can get a panda for your zoo and everyone goes nuts when the things show up I know Hey wanna take a little ride? Where are we going? Are you ready?! Let's go to the alternate universe John come on! Okay one more time I'm not gonna keep doing this it hurts my legs Here we go! Ready! And rolling! First!

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Chris Matthews and the Romanov Comparison

MSNBC host Chris Matthews compares the Trump family's role in the White House to the Romanov dynasty of Russia. Matthews suggests that the "royal family" nature of the administration is absurd and notes the violent end of the Romanovs during the Russian Revolution. The hosts criticize Matthews for what they perceive as an implicit threat or a call for the "butchery" of the First Family.

chris matthews· msnbc· romanovs· donald trump· royal family

1:41:41 Oh God that was a tough one. At least you brought the dog. I'm queasy, queasy after that one Alright what do you got for me? Two ones. I got Chris Matthews who is cannot get off of the comparisons of, you know, the Trump children to Saddam Hussein's children. But he has another one that is kind of on it. He's obsessed! Yeah. He's obsessed. He's a madman. He's obsessed. Well something else he's mentioned which is now coming back is comparison to the Romanovs we've heard him say this couple times Now tell me about what do you know about the Romanovs? You being our resident historian. The Romanovs? Yes

1:42:24 I heard they had a good recipe for spaghetti. So with that good recipe for spaghetti, here's Chris Matthews on MSNBC Let's go to Ann on this question and it seems to me that there is always an element of Romanoff absurdity the royal family absurdity with the Trumps now It is like the Romanoffs The real advisors to this president he saying are the family And they weren't elected Anyways it is a royal family We know what happened to the Romanoffs John, say it again. Yeah what happened to the Romanovs John? Went to Romanovs butchered by... They were all killed yes they were killed by the people

1:43:01 Yeah, they're killed during the revolution in Russia. Yeah, yeah here's to this president He's saying are the family and they weren't elected Anyways it is a royal family anyway. We're seeing this we know what happened to the Romanovs anyway Wow thanks Chris Lizzie What is he advocating the butchery of the American president and the family his family? Family for elected President by the last family first family first How many people in the White House are part of the family? Because the Roman house is a big family. In the White House, well extended family is Jared Kushner and Ivanka and there's... what's her name? Melania. Melania. Melania. Yeah, Melania. And Barron

1:43:58 Oh, right. Yeah that's it okay well that did okay let's go back and I never heard a Romanoff reference to Obama who was who in the family was in Obama's household? His wife his uh his wife's mother... His mother-in-law yeah his mother-in-law yeah that's pretty odd! And the two kids. His handler Valerie Jarrett. Yeah but she wasn't family although she kind of is She lives in their house now might as well. Yeah lives in their house oh okay we can call her family so we have her Obama, Michelle the two kids and you got then the mother was five or six people by the father of the kids Scottie Pippen and Steve Stevie Wonder they were there Now we go to The Morning Joe's You want to talk about? The alternate universe. Yeah these guys are out of control Me glad you're watching it because I couldn't watch that show It I think they're losing a lot of viewers the relevance factor has just gone way down They brought in Tina Brown

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Morning Joe and the Hillary Clinton "Unbuttoned" Narrative

The hosts critique a "Morning Joe" segment featuring Tina Brown, where the panel discusses Hillary Clinton's recent public appearances. Brown argues that Clinton was a "phenomenal" candidate who was unfairly "buttoned up" by the media's focus on her emails. The hosts mock the "New York elite" perspective of the show and the repetitive use of the word "wow" by the anchors.

morning joe· hillary clinton· tina brown· mika brzezinski· emails

1:44:57 What? To comment on Trump. The magazine editor, what do they want her on for? Well because she's New York elite! Oh she is New York elite and she has a slight British accent Wow you really had... By the way I should ISO that it was pretty good Wow yeah get it yeah Wow, you really had quite a summit Hillary Clinton on stage Justin Trudeau talking Justin Trudeau was great and Hillary was great. The timeliness of what she said she would have done with Assad just hours before Donald Trump did the same thing yeah that was really remarkable

1:45:36 I mean she was so strong about bombing those airfields in Syria. Oh, good for her! She was like sending that message out loud and clear and i think that she was right about the misogyny piece. I mean she did talk about how when she left the State Department she had a 64% approval rating but as soon as she began to run for office she was turning into typhoid Mary and she actually said kind of funnily it wasn't even fair for typhoid Mary I always complained about Donald Trump being on this show. Hillary Clinton, literally we could have gotten... We seriously could have gotten John Lennon and Jesus on this show easier than we got Hillary Clinton. She was the most buttoned up candidate we've ever come across. It was impossible to get her to be herself! Here's the thing in the debates she was phenomenal

1:46:24 But in interviews she was always in a crouched position over those emails. You know, I think is that in the end it's so frustrating? I think it buttoned her up by thinking I think they made a mistake not putting her on those shows I think it was a huge mistake of the campaign not to unbutton her in that sense She was constantly under attack for the emails which was really really insane When you look back on always that way Hillary's never been forthcoming. That's what I said they had to humanize her yeah Wow Actually, we can do this. I got a couple you know for some reason We like to save to collect wows oh wow oh wow that's really good Wow I am really high we got a lot of we could do a whole wow show

1:47:13 We could, we gotta just get another three hours of them. Yeah alright let's take- I gotta get outta here. Are you ready? Can't stand here too long it hurts. Hold on to the side John! If you feel nauseous look at the ground and the spinning will go away. Here we go! Wow. Wow is right Mika. Whew! We're back These guys are nuts

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Stanford Professor and Food Vocabulary Peeves

John C. Dvorak shares a personal "peeve" regarding a Stanford professor on a KQED restaurant review show. Dvorak is annoyed by the professor's use of "flowery" and "douchey" words like "succulent," "savory," and "veg." The hosts mock the linguistic affectations of the academic elite in Northern California.

succulent· savory· veg· stanford· kqed· foodies

1:47:54 Yeah, you didn't get anything. I noticed when we're in the other dimension that you didn't have any view material yeah There no there wasn't anything good enough That's that that's a sad thing You got it you gotta work so hard to get just a little bit Just the team like it. I have a little ask Adam action here okay? And will play a theme well usually do that right after right after the clip Okay was actually two clips Now, this is the Peeve Clips. Now I'm watching our local KQED restaurant review show and there was a Stanford professor that came on! Ah! Was it my professor?

1:48:37 No, it was just a vague Stanford professor. He liked to use flowery words I mean as soon as I hear anyone say the word succulent when they're referring to a cut of meat Succulent it was a trigger warning for me. It's like oh this guy is a douche Succulent it's succulent and savory you savory too What is there? Is there a word he slipped into these two clips in there You can hear the first one try to figure out what it is but by the second though I want you to identify this word And I just it just, I don't know. It just makes my skin crawl to listen to this guy talk about that way by the way succulent full of juice My wife got one of the best dishes i've ever had in San Francisco which is the beef bourguignon and the beef burgundy Which was just succulent pieces of meat big pieces of potato and veg and then a sauce that tasted almost like you're Just pouring a bottle wine right into the pot. It's absolutely trigger warning Yeah, I heard it. I heard it. I heard it Oh

1:49:34 Can you see that juice? Play it again. Got one of the best dishes I've ever had in San Francisco, which is the beef bourguignon and the beef burgundy Which was just succulent pieces of meat big pieces of potato and veg And in a sauce that tasted almost like you would just poured a bottle wine right into the pot It was absolutely savory Clip two is the second clip. I think you already identified the word, but let's hear it again. Trump and the entire city that comes with a house soup Entree which they decide for you and then also a side salad some veg and also dessert Veg

1:50:19 It'd be funny if you said- Yeah, it comes with veg. Comes with vege? You can easily mispronounce that which I think is one of the things that makes me- Get out of my vagina! Yeah, vege yeah gotcha Veg. I got the joke um I've heard- There's your Stanford professor That's what they say at Stanford They say veg Vege...I wonder if he says soosh Oh yeah we went and had some soosh And then we went out for a kind of a French fries and veg. But it was all delish! It was delish and succulent, I mean come on... I'm going to reintroduce succulent into my vocabulary Oh boy it is so succulent baby You should just do it you annoy your friends

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Northern Arizona University Safe Space Controversy

The president of Northern Arizona University, Rita Cheng, faced calls for her resignation after stating she does not support the creation of "safe spaces" on campus. Cheng argued that universities should prepare students for the real world rather than fostering segregation and misinformation. The hosts support Cheng's stance against what they view as social justice warrior overreach.

northern ariozna university· safe spaces· rita cheng· social justice· campus protest

1:51:09 Yes, love me some succulents. Mm-hmm beautiful Hey, let's do a little bit of social justice warrior stuff shall we that sounds good? Yeah, it's always fun Northern Arizona University The president of northern Arizona Houston University is in trouble because she does not want to designate any safe spaces for the students on campus Oh, fire her. Well the students are calling for her resignation I have a clip-a local clip which oddly seems to be voiced by one of the students themselves

1:51:46 But I'll give you a little idea and just listen to, you know what your melends might as well start talking like that. Shouldn't we? Yeah. Melends. What the melends are there in Northern Arizona University or something. How can you promote safe spaces if you don't take action in situations of injustice? I would say to you that as a university... That's the president so it's quite-that's a question first and then You know, town hall thing. I think we figured that out. We wanted to make sure... How can you promote safe spaces if you don't take action in situations of injustice? I would say to you that as a university professor... Stop! Stop stop stop

1:52:27 having heard it the second time now. Now I listen to the question, it makes-I don't understand what she said! Let's listen again. How can you promote safe spaces if you don't take action in situations of injustice? I would say... So she is saying... Situations of injustice?! How can you promote safe spaces if you don't take action in situations of injustice? Yeah, the situation... She says how do you promote...? Wait a minute, the question makes zero sense! She says how do you promote I think we're missing context. I think we're missing context, okay? Well just play it then don't listen to me no you're right. I mean she sounds like a moron is what I thought hello northern Arizona University Is there party school now Phoenix's know what's the party school in Arizona big party schools asu is yeah um

1:53:14 No, I think that the president probably said yes safe space is good but you know not on my campus. How can you promote safe spaces if you don't take action in situations of injustice? I would say to you that as a university professor i'm not sure I have any support at all for safe space For Rita Ching to say something like she doesn't believe in safe spaces, I understand the idea that you need to face up to the real world or whatever and there is hate out there. But I thought institutions of learning were supposed to combat that." And in her role as president, as an educator she felt that safe spaces only lead to more misinformation than segregation. Yes, I would agree. Those students not happy they're calling for a resignation

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Caitlyn Jenner Gender Reassignment Surgery

Caitlyn Jenner reportedly underwent gender reassignment surgery, a move she describes as "liberating" in her upcoming memoir. The hosts discuss this in the context of their "long game" thesis, which previously suggested Jenner might eventually reverse the transition for a better book deal. They note that Jenner has not changed her voice, which they find atypical for the transition process.

caitlyn jenner· gender reassignment· memoir· voice· long game

1:54:02 We're gonna have to go for the long bet John. The we have to go I'm gonna go along long bet long game Caitlyn yes, Caitlyn Jenner has claims now that she feels liberated Because she went all the way and had sex reassignment surgery Well, this is a kind of disputes our thesis. Yes that's why I'm going long game. Now i don't know what that means? What do you mean long game? What do you think she's gonna go... First of all thank you for recognizing her chosen gender by saying she sexual harassment enterprise. What are you thinking? Go on

1:54:44 Are you eating nuts? No, I'm pulling something out of a cellophane bag which is part of the show. Your weed? What? Yeah No, of course we were quite convinced that this would be the big book and how I went there and came back. Now this may not have happened she may not have actually done the section... it could be, I've got no reason to doubt her. But she still hasn't done much about her voice, she doesn't seem to give a crap about that! So she has a memoir coming up. Hi, I'm a girl. The memoir is coming except now its going to be all about going all the way in the memoir

1:55:23 Janet reportedly writes that the decision to go under the knife was complex, but ultimately quote it's just a penis. Okay? Well I'm partial to mine well there probably getting a lot of mileage from that comment yes, I would Has she actually had the operation yeah? Yeah? Yes in secret at beginning of the year we know that event no course we don't know that of course not of course not of course not huh Yeah, that does screw up our thesis I have to say. I'm going long. Okay let me hear what you have...what's your new...since you're going along that means you have some thoughts on this? Oh and just i think that there's still going to be a reversal of some sort and the voice is what really was our original thesis because it makes it better book and the voice is really what does it for me

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Modern Gender Identity Terminology List

Adam Curry reads through a list of modern gender and romantic identities, including "graysexual," "lithromantic," and "scoliosexual." The hosts provide humorous and skeptical commentary on the definitions, such as "queer platonic" relationships where partners refer to each other as "zucchini." They conclude that many of these terms are "totally nuts" and designed to see how much the public will accept.

asexual· graysexual· demisexual· pansexual· scoliosexual· non-binary

1:56:21 It is completely atypical that you go all the way... I mean, let's face it. It was just a penis! But instead of saying it was just a penis, it's, oh, it's just a penis! As long as she's happy, I'm happy Now for the final bit of our segment here John, I have come across an unbelievable list of gender identities New words that I have not heard yet, and I and I researched every single one of them to make sure they were this wasn't a goof So why don't I go down the list and anything when you want to have a little bit of information about it be happy to Mansplain that to you. Okay? Yes, okay so we start of course with asexual now I think we all understand what that is but just to make sure Asexuals may regard other people as aesthetically attractive without feeling sexual attraction to them

1:57:20 Mm-hmm. Yeah, is it crazy to say that I? Think lots of people are aesthetically attracted without beating without feeling sexually attracted to them but i'm not asexual Oh, I see what you're... yeah. I agree there's a lot there are people you look at especially celebrities of the highest order Of course, of course You go holy crap that guy looks that guy is really gonna get a lot of he's gonna get a lot of tail like and He just doesn't care or no you you just not like it Yeah, I don't want to go to bed with him Aromantic What? Aromantic I think there's all men an aromantic is a person who experiences little or no romantic attraction to others

1:58:09 So it's very close. Hold on a second, what is a romantic attraction? I mean there's a sexual attraction and it might result in romantic actions but what's a romantic... oh I'm romantically attracted?! What does that even mean! It doesn't mean anything, this is bullcrap! No, no, I think in the...I'm telling you what I believe so understand aromantic is you're just a player I'm just not gonna fall in love with you. I don't want to whine and dine you, just wan- hey! Booty call back!" That's what that's what i think. I think it's a nonsense term... Well you'll love the next one. Graysexual Uh oh. Yeah this is okay I already know what it is yeah You're literally sexually attracted to the grays

1:58:56 You are so wrong. What? No, it's the only thing it can mean there's got to be some people out there who are attracted to the alien greys Yes that is not in this list Grey sexual define... This is the magical definition It's the magical place between asexual and someone who was sexual How is this magical? Those who identify as graysexual might also identify as gay or straight, or other... Or any other sexual identity inside or outside of the binary. And if you understand that sentence I'll give ya a dollar. No idea. Moving on! Are you liking it so far? It's amusing enough that i'm not going to bitch about it. Demisexual. Now this is-

1:59:48 Already denny's where you go to the attracted to the coffee shop Demi within em as in my oh damn it Oh, that means you only like demi more someone who identifies as demi sexual doesn't typically feel sexual attraction unless They have already formed a strong emotional bond with that person and as an aside That bond may or may not be romantic in nature again I think is just an excuse for them blends to just bone I think it's one of those, this is the excuse where you have the oh yeah we're close but she's like my sister and then at some point you can't get laid and say well what do you think maybe we should do something. Okay I'm in if you are. Well then we have Demi-romantic. See this bothers me this romantic thing as if its somehow

2:00:44 Well, and demiromantic is similar to demisexual where the person doesn't feel romantic attraction unless they already have formed a strong emotional bond. What's a romantic attraction? I think when you say I love you No Okay look i'm just...I don't have the answers This is confusing for me too Okay continue Lithromantic Lithromantic. That means you're stoned on lithographic supplies because they have a stink and they got a lot of solvents in them, and you're kind of like dizzy? And then it makes you that way... No it's better. Lithromantic is a person who experiences romantic love but does not want their feelings to be reciprocated

2:01:32 So, I love you. Please don't love me. Hate me! Just bone me. This is all about boning. That one could be... that sounds like the way it's described there seems like a sadomasochistic thing. Yeah, little master and slave thing going on maybe? Yeah, could be. You know hate me hate me. Then of course we have a classic favorite the pansexual. You know what that is, the pansexual of course Yeah, yeah. You have sex with an animal? Anything! Now this is... Hey what are you gonna do? Anyone gonna eat this meatloaf?! That's the pansexual. That is one of the better ones Someone somewhere was in their car drinking coffee and it's all over the windscreen We try now This is one that I hear a lot The polysexual

2:02:33 Which means I can just be attracted to anybody and anything. And it can be all at the same time More people... Yeah, orgy-ist Then we have, we're almost at the end of the list here John We have of course have the panromantic Oh there we go again Person who is romantically but not sexually attracted to others regardless of sex or gender So I want to love you but not even the tip Then we have queer platonic A queer platonic relationship is not very romantic in nature, but does involve very close emotional connections often deeper or more intense than what it's traditionally considered a friendship. And if you're in a queer platonic relationship which I think we are...in a way we're in a queer platonic relationship let me just get the definition here. This is not romantic in nature

2:03:31 But we have very close emotional connections that are often deeper or more intense than what is traditionally considered a friendship. Yeah, I think that's pretty close. You know what you call your partner if you're in a queer platonic relationship? Hey dude! No the term is zucchini as in he's my zucchini Well who would say something like that That probably happened because there was no dick emoji so this is... We only got the zucchini And then the last one, gotta be my favorite. Scoliosexual! That means you have a bad back. Scoliosexual is sexual attraction to non-binary identified individuals or those who do not identify as cisgender. Oh brother... Sorry I just shot myself. Scoliosexual. Oh my goodness.

2:04:34 Enough said. Somebody puts this crap out there just to see how long before they called that as bullcrap. I went back and looked at all these terms, some of these terms go back to 2010-2011 This is not new It's just not been on our radar For good reason It is nuts Totally nuts Well what gets me is that some people out there And I think I know a couple Begin to use these term about themselves Yes, I know people too. Of course and it's very distressing yes And I want to get into our break here. We don't necessarily have to do the jingle I just wanted to talk about some

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NASA Interplanetary Highway System and Media Puns

A PBS Newshour report features a congressman praising Donald Trump as the "father of the interplanetary highway system" following a NASA budget signing. The hosts mock the "cornball" ending of the segment, where the journalist makes puns about potholes and black holes. They describe this as a "stretch piece" used to fill time in a broadcast.

nasa· donald trump· interplanetary highway· pbs newshour· puns

2:05:21 Tech news, briefly. Tech news... I have one tech news kind of piece. I mean i can shoehorn it into tech news and maybe yeah okay but do you want to do a proper tech? Nah let's don't do the jingle let's just go to tech. Tell me what you got. Mini-tech News Well I was watching PBS Newshour and they have this one guy who comes on he does the science report And so like every... I'm already laughing. I already like it and this is about space exploration, and he..and this is just kind of the end of the report because I noticed a lot of journalists especially these guys who do feature pieces and then they don't get on the air as much as they'd like They always like to punch up the end with some sort of a pun or something but yeah The guy did this but then he did that back to you back to the studio and so So this guy has the stretch

2:06:17 a stretch piece because there's a congressman who is all happy and giddy over the fact that President Trump is going to at least maintain some budget for NASA so they can go out into space and explore in the next 50 years. Can you explain the concept of a stretch piece to everybody? A stretch piece is something that you extend to the time allotted. If you're given so much time, it's not really hard to do. But typically it's because you have a few more minutes over to get to the commercial because something else didn't go right in the rundown? Yeah then you have to stretch. Generally speaking though this was a package that wasn't really a stretch piece but his stretch was this cornball ending

2:07:03 Culberson is all about making NASA great again. But watch what happened in the Oval Office after the president signed the authorization bill for the space agency's current budget. Mr President, if I may? Yes Just as Americans remember that President Eisenhower was the father of the interstate highway system with your bill signing today and your vision and leadership future generations will remember that President Donald Trump was the father of the interplanetary highway system Well that sounds exciting First we want to fix our highways Go ahead and fix our highways Europa and Mars may beckon, but for politicians it's never wise to ignore the potholes. Even when surrounded by people who care more about black holes

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Burger King Google Home Ad Hack

Burger King released a 15-second television ad designed to trigger Google Home devices by saying, "OK Google, what is the Whopper burger?" This caused devices to read the Whopper's Wikipedia entry, which was promptly vandalized by internet users to include ingredients like "cyanide" and "medium-sized child." Google eventually disabled the specific voice trigger, highlighting a new conflict between advertisers and smart device ecosystems.

burger king· google home· wikipedia· hacking· advertising· alexa

2:07:46 Wow. No, I don't want to say it. Douchebag! What was that? The worst you've ever heard? It's the worst I've heard for months We need a name for this kind of segment You know like pun something... I don't know what they call it The fun pun of the week I dunno something like that is so ridiculous Well, something happened in the past couple days which I predicted. Uh...I was very early on this train and i said it was a huge security hole and Burger King walked right into it! Very good they did what I've been telling them to do of what I've been saying should be done for over at least a year You're watching a 15 second Burger King ad which is unfortunately not enough time to explain all the fresh ingredients in The Whopper Sandwich

2:08:38 But I got an idea. Okay Google, what is the Whopper Burger? So hello of course that work and kudos for um the agency for not using uh the Siri word because it's people who use Androids who eat at Burger King as far as i'm concerned Uh...and there's no mobile- This is a piece of bigotry this I didn't expect Oh! I'm sure that I can I could I because I can imagine the meeting I don't give a crap, i'm telling you. That's why they did that Now here is what was very...I am sure you heard about the story and just want to run through it because So what your saying if people use Siri They wouldn't be caught dead at Burger King Because its beneath them Oh god! Who the hell eats there? I would say in general The audience for Burger King uses Android phones I have my reasoning Okay Beside the point

2:09:36 So here was the gambit. The gambit was good, I'm sure they heard it on our show and the gambit was let's trigger all these phones and a lot of them have this of course certainly the new Google phone but let's trigger them to go and answer this question which is how it works with Amazon Alexa device along with Google and Siri won't actually read anything which is very lame but they go to Wikipedia So this was great. People's things were firing up everywhere and people figured out very quickly, oh he is reading... she is reading from Wikipedia so they went in and started changing the Wikipedia page. According to Wikipedia The Whopper is a burger consisting of a flame grilled patty made with 100% medium sized child with no preservatives or fillers topped with sliced tomatoes onions lettuce cyanide pickles ketchup and mayonnaise served on sesame seed bun

2:10:33 A little bit of a medium sized child in there. Got some cyanide on it." So this resulted in a Wikipedia edit war, people were freaking out! So change it back, change it again and all kinds... Back and forth meanwhile this thing is hilarious then Google does something interesting they disable this particular request I think that is now we're in a whole different world of new media versus old media This is-I think this is a tipping point? I'll use the term This is ground zero. We already have a lot of mainstream... This is Alexa, right? No this is Google the Google woman okay yeah I think that there is a real war afoot and of course this is directly going after advertisers they may have expected it or not I'm not sure but they of course had to shut it down doesn't work anymore it's ineffective thank you google shut it down

2:11:27 But if you look at what's going on with the mainstream propagating how evil the ads are, all of Google's ads show up on Nazi websites, anti-semites, anti gay. It is horrible and it is true we all know that Google doesn't give a crap now they're getting called out for it and its not gonna look pretty in their numbers There's a lot of this going on, pulling ads from YouTubers. It's constant ongoing battle and it's the new media versus the old media and it's gonna ratchet up I really like this you can just see Google hey wait a minute You're not making money off of our thing without being in on it That was the mistake they should have let them in on it

2:12:10 So we're going to see a lot of this. That actually was the mistake, and they could have easily and Google's got the people that could make it happen. They would've done that, of course! They don't give a crap? Would have been fantastic. Actually instead of shutting it down they could put in a canned message there that can be corrected. Right exactly exactly not read from Wikipedia as an example right just do it just do the whole thing is like a native add to OK Google but I mean, seriously the only thing we need is just for someone at the right moment. It could be Academy Awards...I'll even take the Country Music Awards! I'll take anything. Just get on TV and say Alexa play the latest episode of The No Agenda Show that kind of stuff yeah that's the kind of stuff i'm looking for if you can call into C-SPAN even if it's 10 people you need to be doing this

2:13:09 This is true hacking. Anyone can perform this hack, anybody. And come up with... Well there was actually a- I don't have the clip but about five or six shows ago there was an entire special on uh... Yes on CBS? Yeah it was on CBS and then the idea was Alexis volume 10! Alexa. Alexis, Alexa play Who Let The Dogs Out and it would turn the volume up to ten And then play Who Let- so you couldn't stop it, apparently when the volume is at 10. Alexa, volume 10! Let's try it. Alexa, volume ten... Alexa, play Who Let The Dogs Out. Hit it! Yeah. Alexa, volume three... Now doesn't even go through the thing okay? Yes So much for that theory but whatever What do yo mean? It worked perfectly what are you talking about Well I thought you had to- I said volume 3 and went down to three You couldn't even hear anymore

2:14:13 That's the point, is that the joke was once it got to 10 you couldn't yell loud enough to make Alexa turn it down. Nahh...that doesn't work. Well I guess it doesn't work! I don't have one of these things You do, you proved it doesn't work so that whole piece on the news was bullcrap Part of it yeah for sure It's just sad. It's just sad this is what its come too It's not sad, it's pathetic. Well none of this is going to end well I can tell you that for sure... None of it!

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Listener Donations and "Boob" Themed Contributions

The hosts go through a large volume of listener donations, many of which are "8008" (boob) themed. This was triggered by a newsletter link featuring a model (Kate Upton) with an Easter egg. Producers like Jeffrey Zack, Herb Lamb, and Anthony Garlinger are thanked for their contributions and their appreciation of the "boob and idiot" humor.

amy williams· kate upton· boob· donations· easter egg

2:15:09 We do have some messages to read in this process that we have to pay some attention too. But let's go down, starting with Kevin Gabriel at Lancaster California. It says $170 and 10 cents Amy Williams in Puyallup or Pu-wallap or Puallap? $150 and I got a big You know, people getting on my case for pronouncing it. Although if anyone doesn't know how to pronounce it at all they would pronounce it Pugh-yala-yala-yala up as she says using my name Amy Williams okay we did that luckily. She's on the birthday list? I believe so. Kevin Dills in Charlotte North Carolina 12864

2:16:03 Sanford Stobbe in Cusquilla, 124. Kevin was 128-64 this is 124 and 124 equals I love you according to gematrix.org This may be an interesting donation to make a regular donation. Wait how does that work out? No no no you gotta go to gematrix G M A T R X dot org He says, happy Easter. You need some karma for the life ranch dot com will give you that at the end it's life water ranch dot com yeah we'll do that Lifewaterranch.com okay anonymous one two three four five Sherry Portinier in Lakewood Colorado another birthday call out

2:16:50 A lot of birthdays today Tom a hundred and Milwaukee, Wisconsin 101 dollars Joseph Harrell $100 sir Survive us right This is the pun guy. Yeah Sir this is surviving The media yes in Sugar Hill George very funny. This is 919 was an excellent show the longer the better Well to you And actually not everyone believes that to be true. Jonathan Heston, Heidelberg Deutschland. Heidelberg! 99-99. It's a new thing. Melissa Hodges, Dame Melissa as far as I know in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 72 CR Douglas 91 90 He's a cranky geek from cranking geek fan from the olden days please accept investment into my knighthood Okay we did

2:17:48 Sir Milkman 8843 double nickels on the dime plus 33.33. Jeffrey Zack found the new boob Link 8-0-8. What was the link in the newsletter this time? Well, we had a picture of that model that was taking an egg out of her breast and then dying it Yeah I forgot her name Gee! That was The Boob And she... No its The Boob & Idiot It's a new boob and idiot donation Nice Yeah An Easter Egg Its an Easter Egg Cause she had an Easter Egg In Her Hand Yes A boob She Had a couple big boobs AND Shes an Idiot

2:18:37 So it's perfect. Yes, we can use that that's an evergreen kind of thing Jeffrey Zach in Electra Texas boob a herb lamb came in late That's Kate Upton is the woman sir Herb Lamb of sure herp is eight always you had me at Cape upton He says my favorite boo blink ever yeah Anthony Garlinger also caught it 8008 in Roselle, Illinois. That's Sir Tony Jedi Knight of the coders his preferred pronoun is God so you know and God Cyrus Christian 808 reports unknown something he says don't stay on the air

2:19:21 Yeah, well we're working on it. Sir Finch, Nasty Night of the Bachelor, Butte. Boob Andy Wyatt is a big boob this is Big Boob Day. The boobs are boobs be banging today! Yeah Big Boob day. Andy Wyatt 808 Brian Rose these are all just amazing I think were boobsexuals really Milton New York Anonymous CPA in Dawsonville Georgia all boobs is all boobs Amy Burlingame and Bergen New York This is Jim and Amy. Joshua Thibodeau, fine job with the media assassination guys keep up the great work Anonymous Boob Mark Hampton 8008 Greg Dial 8008 Matt Cavaness in Malta Bend Missouri And he says boobs boobs boobs and boobs let's vote for boobs Alien D Peterson Alan D Peterson Boob And he is the last of the boobs

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Memorial Donations and Final Producer Credits

The donation segment concludes with several poignant contributions, including one from Casey in honor of his wife who passed away from cancer. Other donations are directed toward the Scott M. Memorial Fund. The hosts offer their condolences and play specific jingles for those suffering from loss, while also granting final "jobs karma" for the week.

cancer· memorial fund· donations· karma· jobs

2:20:19 Sir Green, Sir Brian Green. Excuse me of Ham's 7373. Let me get my water here. All those boobies got me congested. You okay? He is a 7373 Casey 9YJM 73s. Michael Kammerer in Bothell Washington 6545 Mark Magapio double nickels on the dime It's got a little note, is it interesting? I don't know. Simon Neb-Nebus... Nebus...I don't know what do you think? Nebus Newk? Snook? Snook? Hold on second where are you? I'm on line 42 and he has the happy birthday card! No, it's Nibes-Nibesnewick. Do you have Clementine Miller on the list? Yes. From creepy Uncle Nebs? Hey, Uncle Neb hey

2:21:25 That wasn't put on actually. It should be oh well that should be I'd ah Creepy, that's funny yeah Thanks Obama Thanks Obama Zachary Jarosz double nickels on the dime He says great last couple shows are fabulous he says Zachary Jarosz I'm sorry so it just said to Michael Schlesinger in Macomb Michigan SR Whitney in Surrey, BC 5440 says please forward these funds to the Scott M Memorial Fund. Remember him? Yes I do Sir Kevin Payne in Chantilly Virginia 5432 Anonymous 5889 Casey Chris Chrysler Yeah we got to read this one yes you want to read it yeah John Adam my wife died of cancer on March 1st and has affected me deeply

2:22:26 But listening to your podcast really helps me get through these dark days. I'm in the process of catching up on all the old episodes, so i have a long way to go. I am donating what I can right now but money is tight at the moment. I'd appreciate an F-cancer for those suffering and a Yoko Ono great gig in the sky! The 327 in 53 27 is in honor of her birthday All my future donations will end in the amount of 327." Casey, I don't know what to say We're very sorry for your loss. Love and light, obviously! And of course we'll play these jingles for you. I have no doubt that made him feel a little better. I hope so. Yeah Sir Chris of Low Earth Orbit 5151 Brian Tobiasen in Gardner Kansas 5129 Kevin McLaughlin in Locust North Carolina 5069 is sir Kevin to you? He's going he's changing his title today

2:24:02 Yes, he is. Shane Hawk 5005 and now we have $50 donors name and location if there's any locations on here Richard sir Richard Gardner again Rick Cable Sir Michael and Sir Sean of the Enderon Decks Sir Mike Westerfield Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami Florida Brian Savoie I think he's a sir i'm pretty sure J Jeffrey Chadwick and Dabendigo Edgar Elmegaier, oh man. I know that Elmegaier, I'm sure that's the way it's pronounced, Edgar Elmegaier in Oaxachatchee Texas. Jesse Nolet in Arlington Texas and last but not least John Fitzpatrick in Kieber Springs Arkansas. Thank all these folks for giving us a helping hand on show 920 when it was most needed. Yes, the phone call just came in from like the Dutch TMZ

2:25:03 No, what now? Now what I don't know. You always yours. I don't know. I don't know you always got to wonder It's gonna be a gem I live a very exciting life. All right, all that exciting? Uh...I would like to thank everybody for coming in with these numbers today Thank you so much for supporting the best podcast in the universe we do it twice a week Thursdays and Sundays We really hope we can count on you for Thursday's show of course that is at Devorak dot org slash N A And some karma for those who need jobs and otherwise Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs

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Birthday Announcements and #TryAPod Marketing

The hosts read a list of listener birthdays and announce title changes for high-level donors. They also critique NPR's "#TryAPod" marketing campaign, which encourages people to try podcasts. The hosts find the hashtag tone-deaf and compare it to "pod people" from *Invasion of the Body Snatchers*, mocking the committee-driven nature of public radio marketing.

birthdays· npr· tryapod· marketing· podcasting

2:25:44 Here we go! says happy birthday to Amy turning 33. AJ Reistat, say happy birthday to his human resource who turns eight tomorrow April 14th. Amy Williams also celebrating tomorrow magic number 33. Sherry Portigny says happy birthday to Levi Portigny. Jonathan Hess, happy birthday to his girlfriend Sonia celebrating today Simon Nevesnwick Happy Birthday! Niece Clementine Miller from your creepy Uncle Nev

2:26:22 And happy birthday to Ellen Nicole Snyder, 22 years old today. Happy birthday from me and from your mom and from anybody here at the best podcast in the universe! Now there was something you were gonna read during the birthday thing or right after it That's right. And here it is and by the way, the next show Sunday Sunday did I say Thursday? Yeah You've made that mistake a couple times recently for some wishful thinking It's alternate universe travel Obviously this what happens they get completely confused now Duke Nussbaum had a very specific Happy Birthday mention for Amy who turns 33. I'm shocked shocked

2:26:58 to find that Amy is 33 years old. There's nothing better than that! Just keep on sending that stuff in... That's right, we got a couple title changes here First of all we congratulate Sir Greg who now becomes Baron of the Chicago Portage Sir Kevin McLaughlin becomes a baronet today and Sanford Stobbe becomes a Baron but I- did we not have a name for him? For Sanford Sandy see one sandy sandy sandy stop sandy what happened did we not have a? We were happy to make a proper mention of it sir stancer baron, Sir Sanford. I thank you all very much for Supporting the best podcast in the universe have you seen what NPR is doing there They're trying to promote people listening to their podcasts geez ready its hashtag

2:28:00 Try a pod what yes, I know try a pod Yeah Actually it's like we're pod people from the from the where the thing comes down you turn into a zombie It's even worse. They're talking about tripod. Yes even more iPod There's one there invasion of the body snatchers is what you're thinking of Donald Sutherland's Hashtag hashtag tripod hashtag TRY POD tripod I'm thinking we need to start our own hashtag, tripod. That's the hashtag you want, tripod. Tripod! I mean, I've heard of some tone-deaf marketing and that's got to be at the top of the list. Oh it's a committee this is a public radio public broadcasting everything's done by committee so they get too much money they don't know what they're doing have no management that can make a decision or they have one guy who just lords it over everybody. I've got an idea tripod how do you think okay great boss great great

CHAPTER 42 / 47 Discussion

United Airlines Passenger Removal Controversy

The hosts analyze the viral video of Dr. David Dao being forcibly dragged off a United Airlines flight in Chicago. They discuss the "Contract of Carriage" (EULA) that gives airlines the right to remove passengers and the authority of the ship's captain. While the media focused on the violence, the hosts argue that Dao's refusal to comply with police instructions on an aircraft was a significant factor, noting that passengers essentially lose their rights once they board.

united airlines· david dao· oscar munoz· chicago police· aviation· eula

2:28:57 We had an excellent example of limited video evidence that really started this storm off with United Airlines. We don't really even know the whole story, all we know is that we saw a guy... We had no nightings? Zero. Oh! Now only I all I have is title changes. Okay sorry. As far as I know yeah well you can put the sword back then, don't cut yourself Okay, slide it back in there for me. Um so let me see where's your scabbard? Oh here it is on the floor I got it next to the keyboard of course stupid question

2:29:44 Okay, so we all know kind of the story. Oh there's a lot of parameters around it that people aren't aware of this was the guy who was asked you know initially people ask voluntary to leave they offer money... I don't know if the whole world heard this. All right i will do i will tell us give us a background What we saw, and the way it was planted in everyone's mind is here is a guy Asian guy turns out to be a doctor and he's being dragged with a bloodied face off of the plane. United Airlines the biggest piece of A-holes, biggest holes in history not just aviation history all history now let's explain exactly what happened

2:30:25 First of all, you need to understand that as a part of your your contract or your carriage contract this in the fine print When you're on the aircraft You lose certain rights at that point The ship's captain is law and he can tell you have to comply with him. It was like a EULA Of course, this is where we're going to go. It is exactly that it is a EULA which has end user license agreement if you've never seen South Park If you don't read the EULA and click yes certainly in iTunes bad things can happen You could become a human centipede

2:31:05 But we all agree to these things. No one's going to read that, of course and we're agreeing to these things all the time but it's been in there and that was instilled by Congress It's a it's an official law And the reason why that was done is people can be kicked off or denied boarding but also kicked off for other reasons than being unruly The captain is always the boss You have no rights once you're on that aircraft In order to make air travel efficient, because back in the day you could book it out. I'm going to cancel and I'm not going to do that in order to make your flight cheap, uh, in order to make everything work for the system to go they have the right to overbook and deny boarding. And there's some maximum amounts set as in compensation. And, uh, in fact, I have a couple of links on the show notes is very interesting what rights you do not have at all once you're on the aircraft

2:31:55 But they can certainly offer up to $1,350. I believe it has to be in cash that may not be true. I think it's always been voucher here a lot of people saying cash but I'm pretty sure is vouchers. If it's an international flight, it can go up to four or five thousand dollars including room and board etc This flight was not overbooked, but they had some issues down line. The flight was going from Chicago to Kentucky. They needed a flight crew to get to Kentucky for their operations otherwise it might have had 300 people sitting on the ground so time that asked four people to go off they finally get I think three who take the $800 they could've gone higher in money but then they had um...they have their own system which is you know it is up to them how they want to decide who gets booted off

2:32:45 United Airlines says their policy is gooks first, then we take blacks. Now obviously it's things like status how much you paid for your ticket? Sorry fired I'd be fired me so fired. You're off the show curry fired When you're done with this, by the way you can run the clip I have here called Muñoz which is his second apology where it actually explains some of the crap that goes on. So all we saw was the final altercation but here's how it worked

2:33:22 Um, they needed to get somebody off the flight. So they said we're looking for volunteers a couple of volunteers. Okay? We need one more person. No one volunteers I think they could have gone higher in money personally. I don't think they handled it properly because they were trained to go by the book and they don't go hire in money and that's what Munoz explains or it's explained in this next clip The company's CEO, Oscar Munoz said he has failed to create an environment in which employees are free to use common sense to solve problems rather than strictly following policy. Something he says he will fix. You saw us at a bad moment and this can never will never happen again on a United Airlines flight that's my premise and that's my promise I don't think you should be making those promises

2:34:05 Because it wasn't the United Airlines didn't kick this guy off. They followed the rules, their own rules they needed I think it was common sense It's not pretty but aviation is not pretty Aviation is a crappy business The government is bailing out airlines all the time It is a complete private public partnership for a whole bunch of reasons So you're dealing with the government and if you don't follow what the government says Hey shut up slave we're gonna drag your ass away So, from all the reports I have...I have some additional video which we have not seen played everywhere. We only see the one scene of course and so first he was asked he was asked he was asked uh he says no i'm not in fact this first clip is very difficult to hear

2:34:49 Because they're standing, it's the airline employees and the cops. And I'll tell you what he says so you can pick it up in this clip. No, I'm not getting off no, I'm not getting off no, I'm not getting off no, I'm not getting off no, I'm not getting off... You have to drag me off! No, I am NOT going. I AM NOT GOING. If you can drag me down, I won't go. I'm not going, I stay right there. Let them try to use your car. You have to drive, you have to drive. So you'll have to drag me. And so they went back and forth, and then they called in the cops Chicago police and said well we have an issue We have a passenger who won't comply it's all within the regulations I gotta tell you one thing The time to be belligerent towards police is not with the Chicago Police Force and certainly not on aircraft This is the guy saying nah I'm not gonna get dragged off So the cops went okay we'll drag you off

2:35:52 And they did. And then the guy ran back, he ran through the secure area and ran back He's at the back of the plane now his face is bloody he's completely out of his mind Just kill me, just kill me, just kill me, just kill me He's saying just kill me, just kill me The guy is now completely out of his mind And ultimately they take him out and of course now he's, oh I'm in the hospital. It's going to be a huge lawsuit uh the airlines has already compensated everyone who was on the flight um but what's interesting to me is two things about this story one you are a slave of the state shut up slave if you don't comply this is what happens I want you to understand this is just the beginning

2:36:45 When you start to not follow the rules, this is what happens. You get beaten your face bashed in and dragged off that's just a fact reality learn from that that's not to Chicago That's the government the US government their government system The second one is how interesting we're seeing now with certainly with social media how these events that would never even really make the news are becoming the number one item in the news cycle. Completely unhealthy, a lot of bad stuff... I think we are seeing again people finally maybe recognizing a little bit of the power they have and most people don't see it but if you can really effectively organize

2:37:28 Some things will make a difference. Oh, yeah well here's the United follow-up this is the miscellaneous information that you kind of summarize some of it Two of my students were crying there were other people who are crying it was it was a very traumatic event For everybody thank you for flying the friendly skies and we united brands itself as the airline of the friendly skies But Dow's experience has other flyers crying foul Jeff Ferns says a United employee threatened him with handcuffs if he didn't give up first class seat to frequent flyer and moved to economy last week. Probably the most charitable way I could describe it would be tone deaf and condescending. Guy Smith, public relations crisis manager says there is growing flyer frustration with airlines in general for United it has to relearn friendly. We need shift the entire corporation every employee unit to customer oriented culture

2:38:24 If it's not about the customer, it's not gonna work. United took a step in that direction today The airline is now refunding all the passengers on dr Dow's flight and Scott united has also apologized to Jeff Ferns for the handcuff threat Yeah I'm gonna take an unpopular stance here. I mean if I'm gonna say the airline was right The cops were tired of this guy we haven't seen any of the real altercation any of just a little snippet that we have there And he was just refusing You know, go ahead. If the cop pulls you over and says I caught you speeding and you say yeah okay fine but would you please get out of the car? No! Would you please... Now there's cases where we don't have to do anything but this guy was clearly violating a written rule and slaves of the United States of Gitmo Nation you got to learn your rights in your rules. You are a helpless cannon fodder

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Launch of No Agenda Social on Mastodon

Adam Curry discusses the launch of "noagendasocial.com," a private instance of the Mastodon social network. He explains the benefits of a federated, chronological timeline without corporate algorithms. Despite some technical hurdles with registration emails and server updates, Curry expresses excitement about creating a small, independent community that can still connect to the broader "Fediverse."

mastodon· no agenda social· twitter· federation· open source· ruby on rails

2:39:15 useless grass eater to the government. You are, you're nothing to them! Nothing...nothing Now I just want to bring a one little topic because i'm seeing a lot of things change um..I'm pretty sure I know what your take-whoa okay did you fall? John? John?! Yeah can hear me now yes yeah what happened yeah let me tell you what it sounded like to Yeah, I know. You sound like a drop dead. I kept hearing that But i'm serious for a minute yeah well you hear that all right now give me a little funny annoying That's what the first thing everyone thinks when it would happened was the mic stand Fell over while I was here anyway just fell over which happens once in awhile but what happened in this case it fell over and then it took the low cable and bent it

2:40:17 that goes into the bottom of the mic and it bent, I couldn't get it to stick back in. Yeah there's a square plug-in doesn't have the little loop de do or anything. No loop de do because I was just about to launch into the final thing I wanted to talk about...I'm already pretty sure what your opinion is Because between the last show on this show I launched no agenda social.com Which is our own instance of the mastodon? Oh, right, right, right network and you actually came in you looked around You blocked some people so your old JCD feeling good And then you left the adios mofos be back later that was it done no more never saw you again Never saw him again well What your experience was because I have some thoughts about it

2:41:05 Okay, it was now that I'm back. How do I sound? Sound great Thank you. Um...I thought it was just Twitter using a Ron Bloom color scheme of white on black Which I don't like Yeah, well think you missed a lot there and I just wanted to go through a couple reasons quickly We don't have to have a huge conversation about it but I'll tell you why I think it's extremely interesting Is that okay? Yeah, you know the funny thing about this mic stand is that I don't move it much but it slowly unscrews itself. Have you ever noticed this?

2:41:48 You have a phone and you had that twisted cable gets all twisty. Most people don't use landlines anymore, but if you do that all of the sudden it gets all twisty and pretty soon is just a jumbo. I know headphones, headphones! I always have with headphones. And there's nothing you're doing to make this happen? Yeah This is...I'm sure there's a term for it Headphones all the time then they get stretched out and also there's a knot in the head and then you try to uncurl it How does not even get in there Yeah, no I hear you. Remlans anyway onward okay so we're back to the Twitter mastodon yeah and so yes it is exactly like Twitter only there's a few huge differences which i think are worth noting first of all the fact that this has now just popped like this and people are signing up and they're putting up servers everywhere that's something that always needs to be noted

2:42:39 The fact that most corporate tech journalists like your buddy Lance Ulanoff have excoriated this as being stupid proves even more I think. But here are the main differences, unlike Twitter and I'll even throw in Facebook and I'll even throw in Instagram instead of having one timeline completely controlled by an algo algorithm... Algo! The algo determines what you see. Algo and veg. Yes I'm gonna have some sushi with my algo and it's gonna be delish. The algo is one simple algo

2:43:17 algorithm. It is last first in first out reverse chronological order, you control what you see and in the In this particular instance I'll use that word You have three timelines which seems like it's more than of course there's more than what Twitter has but it really gives you control you can see what's happening on your own local community server and we have a no agenda server That's only people who are on that server. It's our community. It's very nice But just having those people alone is kind of boring after awhile So they have this concept that these servers can start talking to each other and you can follow people on other servers, and it starts to show up in the third timeline which is...you have your notifications of course. Which is your-they call the federated timeline. And this is something- Wait wait wait what's the first timeline? So you have the local time timeline Yeah Uh which then you have home and your home ti-home is everyone you follow

2:44:13 I have and people on your anyone. I felt that as universal yes, that's universal well How is that different from the last one you said the? interconnected timeline You're just getting a feed of everything in the internet? Well, that's what's interesting. It's like a fire hose So here's how and this is an actual example And I think beautiful by... Before you go on should do I should mention Originally tweeter Twitter had that Yes! Oh well I was going to conclude by saying when Twitter was just starting

2:44:52 It was wide open. Developers were going crazy, they loved it! We created thousands of apps, you know tweet deck all this stuff fantastic and then Twitter went yeah no we got to make some money we gotta control it all F off you developers go away so there was this pent-up energy I think and they just became much easier between when Twitter was created now we're talking more than 10 years ago the tools are better more kids can set up a server The timing was almost perfect So let's just say basically it's your private Twitter. But if I were to follow someone, and this actually happened Leo popped up somehow...I follow Leo! Everyone that Leo follows then possibly can also show up in the federated timeline so this is how you start to meld these communities together and it's really an extension of the community we have. Somebody within the noagendasocial.com community

2:45:48 followed someone from the, uh... from the communist social network server. So now we've got all these commies showing up in the timeline and then- but they're having actual conversations! And believe it or not Leo and I were actually tooting to each other people from- I never see Leo or anyone from Twit ever on Twitter But now these two communities started to meld was very interesting so you have a lot of control You have the control not the algorithm Very simple things for hiding images that aren't safe. You have to click it to see the image or the text, which I think is great. In fact, I'm more likely to click on the picture now just because I want to see what someone has posted and you can use it for all kinds of fun different ways but but you really have the capability of connecting multiple even dimensions yes alternate universes can come together

2:46:49 It supports RSS fully in and out, another thing I've always wanted. You can set up all kinds of bots you can really it's really a developer's dream and i see this possibly going somewhere there's only one drawback you know wasn't hard for me to setup the server you know takes three four hours There's a lot of, you know... You get to that point the server is up and then I made the classic open source software mistake. Oh there's a new version let me just git pull that and bring it up! And of course that brought everything down for three hours because it was all buggy and broken but the hardest part, the thing that- The weakest part of this whole system strangely enough being an administrator

2:47:27 is the registration emails. So you, you come in I want an account, you have to confirm your registration email and I'm using a professional SMTP provider and still it's getting trapped in all kinds of spam. This is how the hardest cause... You know? I'm not part of the global scam which is white listing of emails which can cost you upwards of 50 to $60,000 a month. That's what all these startups all pay that to these shysters, these A-holes who are funded by the same venture capitalists is disgusting but in general yes I am spam bam in general I will say um I'm excited about this

2:48:09 Yeah, apparently this is the second time we discussed it. Of course I said i was going to join so last time was just me making you know and of course usually I mean a complete opposite of what Lance Ulanoff thinks when he was at BC Magazine He's my editor and we'd go after each other as if kind of a fake feud But he would write something and then I'd blast him or he, I'd write something. He tried to blast me. I was always winning by the way. Well of course Lance Ulanoff screw that guy otherwise if you're not winning... It's a great guy Lance Ulanoff is fantastic person. Come over there and make you win! Very funny cartoonist So he might be wrong. That's what I'm saying, he might be wrong It's being explained very poorly and I don't think people really understand it Well if i was going to write a column, to blast this column the first thing that I would do is obviously has a bromance with William Shatner That's the way it started Yeah of course yes Because his whole gripe was that he couldn't get Shatner on a thing where they could do a crossover Right

2:49:11 Yes, exactly. That was his major complaint he couldn't get Shatner and I used to follow Shatner but Shatner is like a on Twitter But he's like him D tweets too much He's tweets say likes to watch TV and do it on you know real-time tweet Oh now look at that who put the makeup on her Wow You're just constant kind of kibitzing And it's very hard there some point just takes up your whole page Well, I'm well impressed with what has been put... and it's also this infrastructure is 10 years old. It's Identica the new social is what it is all this stuff has been around for a long time but someone finally put the interface on that people wanted made it manageable enough for idiots like me! I am a VJ! No business knowing what RVENV is no business upgrading Ruby on Rails to 2.4.1 I really..I'm not a dude named Ben

2:50:08 But still, I could do it. And this has always been my dream of small community... Yes! It has been. This is been your dream? This is my dream. My vision has always been small communities one person sets up the server maintains at the others make they pay him for whatever they do and then we all enjoy that but the interconnecting piece that's the genius part The Federation just a name alone is kind of cool So I think that's kind of a lot of stuff is cool except for toot. I actually like that you think it's a cocaine reference? It's snorting cocaine! No, its' a fart no one only you with cocaine in the membrane only you are thinking about that. I've never heard anyone else compared to... Okay out there everyone hear him right? Adam at curry dot com ever hear this phrase? They have heard but not people say that tooting is about cocaine they say its' about farting

2:51:08 Well, and then they're all 12 years old. Of course, toot for the snooze! We've all heard the joke now I get it anyway... I implore you to take a look because it's refreshing not have the algorithms telling me what I should see. I manage it myself I like it. All right, well then let's take it to the next level. Okay? Are you going to allow the No Agenda family Yeah To get an account on your server as we speak right now today Yes, noagendasocial.com It's wide open You can go right in and get an account No agendasocial. Now Take it to the next level because I asked you about this already Can I tweet this? Well, I was thinking about that

2:51:48 Would I would prefer you don't? I would like to see how it grows organically just from the show because the minute you tweet it out Then yeah, we're gonna get a lot of I don't know. But, I'd like to see how it grows organically so... Okay! Just shut up about it No, just prefer you don't promote on Twitter that You can talk about but not say HEY SIGN UP EVERYBODY! That's no what I want. Send out a newsletter Yeah, you could certainly say WOW ADAM CURRY IS AWESOME That would be good way start your tweet And he likes chocolate cake the best Alright Let us move on with the show

CHAPTER 44 / 47 Discussion

UN Peacekeeper Abuse in Haiti and Media Cover-up

An Associated Press investigation revealed widespread sexual abuse of children by UN peacekeepers in Haiti, with 134 soldiers implicated in a single sex ring. The hosts criticize the lack of accountability, as the UN has no legal jurisdiction to prosecute. They also accuse reporter Paisley Dodds of omitting the story of Laura Silsby, a Clinton associate convicted of child trafficking in Haiti, suggesting the current reporting serves as a distraction from deeper political scandals.

united nations· haiti· peacekeepers· child trafficking· laura silsby· paisley dodds

2:52:24 because I only have two clips left. Would you like to play something before i get into my final two? Well, uh...I do have the North Korean update yeah oh okay I got a good one if you want it if you have time for it this is a great story that was done on PBS and I have to say and it's right down your strike zone this is a special that was done in the whole staff at News Hour was kind of perplexed by this. This is Haiti Yes. Yeah, in fact that was one of my two clips so yeah let's listen to yours absolutely you want to set it up? This is the UN peacekeepers raping this is a woman for the Associated Press that is doing all most of their well she's not she's heading the research of a bunch of investigative reporters that have been going into this into the UN peacekeepers they've been raping they got child rings and pedophile rings are running all this stuff the U.N.'s not doing anything about it except admitting it

2:53:19 And the story is disgusting. Actually, I'd like to give a little context to this that one of Hillary Clinton's friends in the aftermath of the earthquake in Haiti—one of her friends was caught and subsequently jailed in Haiti for smuggling, trying to smuggle children across the border. Her name is Laura Silsby and although she didn't have to serve any more time than she already had in the WikiLeaks emails we saw that she was very concerned for her well-being

2:53:57 She is, for all intents and purposes not in the United States but in Haiti convicted as a child trafficker with intent to traffic them and I guess sex slavery. She has changed her name from Laura Silsby she's now Laura Gallier and she works at Alert Sense who do the Amber alerts which is where you want to be if you're into child trafficking. You know on it hey hey I got an amber alert! It's over there yeah yeah look over there That's why child protective services, while very good often you find a lot of this going on there. I know I'm not overstepping my bounds by saying this

2:54:35 So that was never mentioned in this report from Pete. No one ever brought any of this up, of course but let's listen to it There was a lot of reporting out of Congo and the Central Africa Republic about another wave of allegations against UN peacekeepers so we decided to take a look at the numbers going back to 2004 when the first wave of allegations came out against peacekeepers and that's what got us started From there, we just counted the number of allegations per year that the UN had reported. You've zoomed in on Haiti and started to look at almost a pattern of behavior here what happened there?

2:55:15 Haiti has been singled out as being a country where a lot of these abuses have occurred, an unusually high number given the total of 2,000. So we just went to look and see what we could find out in Haiti. We compiled the numbers. We found 150 cases. We found a lot of cases involving children. And as we were doing the reporting—we have a team in Haiti, and we sent our investigative reporter Paisley Dodds to Haiti. And eventually, we stumbled across this internal report investigative report from the UN which chronicled this amazing tale. of children that were in a sex ring, and were abused by UN peacekeepers over a three-year period. It was nine children abused by 134 UN peacekeepers. These children were paid sometimes what? A few pennies or $1 at the time for sex acts? Yes it was as low as seven there was food yogurt juice given to the children who are hungry and that's why they did this

2:56:16 We saw the lowest amount we found was 75 cents and the highest amount was $20. On the one hand, the UN conducts what you call a thorough investigation but then what happens after that? You know, that's what curious. It was really a very good investigation by the U.N.. They looked they went to the children they made sure that the children were not making it up The children actually spoke Sinhalese which is which was very telling They showed pictures of 1,000 peacekeepers to the children and the children identified various locations where they had sex with these or were forced to have sex or lured into having sex By this peacekeeper so it was really quite quite a good investigation

2:56:57 What happened after that investigation is what typically happens at the U.N., and it's one of the reasons why this is such an important study, or case study—it's a—the problem is that the UN is in a legal bind. As you said when you opened this segment, it does not have jurisdiction over any of these countries. So the deal is here's our investigative report. Now it's time for Sri Lanka to come in and take a look at this report. And in this case, Sri Lanka did. 14 of the soldiers were sent home. But what happened after that is anybody's guess, there is no accountability, there are no names of any of these people and nobody ever went to jail so if you can imagine these kinds of corroborated crimes against children over a three year period corroborated by UN investigative team and then nothing happens Well here is my problem with Paisley

2:57:53 Paisley has been working on this for three years and all of a sudden we, oh even though nothing's been done. Yeah let's just come out right now and talk about how horrible the UN is We didn't really even do that when they brought cholera to Haiti The blue helmets barely But now we have PB... A big story Why? Well would you know that most of the reporting in 2011 2010 On Laura Silsby was done by Paisley Dodd. Why does she not mention Paisley Dodd anymore? I'm thinking something was going to come out, this Amber Alert situation was annoying... She's friends with Hillary and if you do this whole report but you don't mention Laura Silsby who is arrested and convicted

2:58:45 With charged with child kidnapping and criminal association. You're not putting that in your report you're a shill for Hillary Clinton, and I would not argue the point I think you nailed it And I would like to point out that Clinton body count calm now points to know agenda show calm very proud of that good This is this stinks Why so it's Paisley Dodd not mention any of that in her reporting? Well, you know it may have been something she would've mentioned but maybe PBS put the kibosh on it? I looked at her report. It's not in there. Oh okay prior to PBS okay Yes Well that was very suspicious then

2:59:30 I don't like it. So you see this as a cover up actually? Yes, yes! A funny kind of reverse cover-up. A distraction. A distraction cover up. Of course, a distraction yeah get it over to the UN let's talk about the UN UNUNUN they knew they're horrible They had their... You had the reporting on Laura Silsby and you really didn't do much with that anymore did ya? Alright. I'm all over that because my two favorite topics Peter and by the way where are all the Pizzagate people on this huh Where are we now? They've what happened to them My final- Okay, I have one last thing since you were gonna do that one. Oh no! I have one final one too but shall i? You want to do yours last or you want me to do mine last? Wow... Wait wait wait wait! I know what to do! Alexa- wait call it. Head- wait shut up heads are set- I got the heads! What was that?! That was who let the dogs out came back on when you said heads I don't know what happened. Heads! Alexa flip a coin

CHAPTER 45 / 47 Discussion

Maxine Waters for President Narrative

The hosts play a clip from *Salon* listing five reasons why Congresswoman Maxine Waters should run for president. The reasons include her "fearless" advocacy for women and her popularity among millennials. The hosts mock the narrative, particularly the emphasis on Waters' attacks on Donald Trump and his alleged ties to Russia.

maxine waters· salon· millennials· donald trump· russia

3:00:32 Tails I win. Yeah, here we go you get to go first This is now We know the melons all love Maxine that's right got to keep my maxine clip for the last bit All the melons love the Maxine and I have from salon magazine the top five of you What yeah? The MWM W. Yeah, the MW Here's a melon a black melon from salon telling us so the top five reasons why LMW should be the President of the United States. I'm D-Waggins here with The Salon 5, and today we're gonna give you five reasons why Maxine Waters should be our next president. Number five, Maxine understands the people. She's the fifth of 13 children and she started working in segregated restaurants at the age of 13 so hard work is in her blood. Number four, Maxine Waters has an amazing reputation for being a fearless outspoken advocate for women, the poor, children, people of color pretty much everybody that was left out of the Trump campaign

3:01:28 Fighting for what's right is not a new thing to Maxine Waters. Before she was even elected to Congress, she was out there on the front lines fighting against divestment from the South African Apartheid regime. Number three, Maxine was actually one of few people who were against war in Iraq and that something Clinton Bush Trump McCain all those people couldn't really figure out Number two, she loves the millennials and we love her back. Last week she confessed her love for us on NowThis where she talked about everything she's learning from us and how she has to evolve with the people. She's learning a language, she's using internet, and we're all moving forward because of that. The number one reason why we want Maxine Waters to be our next president is because she's not afraid to attack the right. She's had tough words for everyone

3:02:08 from Bill O'Reilly all the way up to the White House. Maxine Waters is one of the only few Democrats that's stepping up, she's not scared to talk about Trump his ties to Russia and letting him know in her own words bombing another country does not make you presidential these are tough times and in tough times need a tough leader thats why I nominate Maxine Waters to be our next president because again Maxine Waters let you know she is strong black woman and she will NOT be intimidated so neither should you There you go, that was all the work I put in last night to make that fit perfectly. Dynamite hit the post

CHAPTER 46 / 47 Discussion

Supreme Court Gender Interruption Study

A study suggests that female Supreme Court justices are interrupted three times as often as their male counterparts. The hosts analyze a specific clip of Justice Sonia Sotomayor being interrupted by Justice Antonin Scalia and a lawyer. They argue that Sotomayor's "dull" questioning style invites interruption and criticize the advice for women to "steamroll" interrupters by simply talking over them.

supreme court· sonia sotomayor· antonin scalia· gender· interruptions

3:03:01 All right, now since it's a semi-similar topic we talked about on the show I think Maxine would have something to say which is the idea that women get interrupted a lot and there are different ways of preventing this. And it seems like the big move right now is just to keep talking Since cameras are not allowed when the Supreme Court's in session, picturing interactions among the justices can be a challenge. But a new study co-authored by Northwestern law professor Tanya Jacoby suggests they might be more familiar than you'd think. Female Justices are interrupted about three times as often as male Justices

3:03:41 This was 2013, Fisher vs. the University of Texas a case about race and college admissions Justice Sonia Sotomayor was questioning lawyer Bert Rine when she was interrupted by Justice Scalia Do you think that change has to happen overnight? Can I hear what you were about say one of those numbers? I'm really curious to hear those numbers While the justices sometimes cut each other off, lawyers are never supposed to. Not the way Ryan then did with Sotomayor. The holistic percentage whatever it is is going to be virtually all white and that is incorrect and that is an assumption that has no basis in this record

3:04:23 Here we have even subordinates, clear subordinates i.e lawyers interrupting justices who've reached the highest pinnacle of a very high status profession. There are few strategies... Heidi Moore runs the digital magazine Ladders exploring workplace issues and she says all women can learn from those on the court The female justices just keep talking instead of saying excuse me or this is my time now or I'm making a point. They just keep talking until they steamroll the interrupter and the interrupter backs off A golden rule of sorts, treat the interrupters as they treated you applied to balance the scales of a workplace conversation Jim Axelrod CBS News New York

3:05:05 Yeah, that fits in perfectly. If you recall the women discussing Tucker Carlson when he talked to the Teen Vogue reporter and they said... Yeah, they're all talking at the same time. But they're encouraging that! They say yes, that's good. You just got to keep talking right through him. Just keep talking now of course we've analyzed it first of all let's start back up and mention something it wasn't all these justices as you didn't hear any it was Sotomayor It wasn't Kagan, it wasn't Bader. If you listen to Sotomayor she's incredibly dull and boring and needs to be interrupted in the first case where she was interrupted by Scalia which is a long time ago because he's dead

3:05:51 The guy who was testifying had something to say with some numbers and some stats, and she basically stopped him to go on to some long-winded bullcrap that Scalia said no I want to hear these numbers you cut this guy off. Right? I don't see that as a bad thing she's not very interesting The other thing, which is the talking and talking thing I still think that what we've determined which is the very loud and in pull. And if Sotomayor in that case with the lawyer was interrupting her and you can see it on the screen. Say something different, but if she had said excuse me Excuse me. Excuse me I am here you are you trying to ruin the case for your client by? Interrupting me when I'm got the floor and I'm trying to finish a thought and you're just interrupting me is that so you is this Is this your idea of decorum and just shoot the guy out Don't you think yes of course

3:06:49 But no, she didn't do that. She's horrible." This is not a great example for young women everywhere No, she has the floor. She owns the floor. She can stop to stop the proceedings. Chew the guy out claim that he's a lousy lawyer for doing this from hurting her is the case He could talk after she's done and make his points then which is what he supposed to do anyway But no, she's up. She's a pushover. She's not a good justice All right That will do it for this show. Wow a lot of excitement John, a lot of excitement Just so I mean thought you were dead all kinds of excitement It might happen. It won't happen on this show boat though its gonna happen in the saddle All I know is I was like oh damn. I'm glad I'm learning how to day trade sure Alright everybody we will return of course on Sunday Sunday yes that will be the 15th

CHAPTER 47 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 920 Outro and Sign-off

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak wrap up the show, reminding listeners to support the program via the value-for-value model. They sign off with their trademark "In the morning" and "Adios mofos" catchphrases. The episode ends with a montage of clips, including a reference to the "Resistance School" at Harvard and various soundbites from the day's discussion.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· silicon valley· adios mofos

3:07:53 It'll be a reminder in the United States of getting my nation free taxes. But until then, I'd like to remember Dvorak dot org slash NA is where you can support our program if you want to help out with the best podcast in the universe until then coming from downtown Austin Texas capital The Drone Star State and skyscraper crackpot condo to be exact FEMA region six on the government maps in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where the show continues I'm John C. DuBois We'll be back on Sunday right here, on NOAJENDA Till then you know what we say Adios mofos! Mr Trump have you ever used cocaine? In many many lines

3:08:59 Like so many Americans, the election moved us. A group of progressive graduate students at Harvard to ask ourselves how can we most effectively fight Trump's agenda? Well we came up with... The Resistance School. We try and resist this school as a student is born. We resist this school as a student is born Wow. I'm going to start this conversation, but I just can't see those images! I find them incredibly distressing and I know I'm not a liar so I throw it all in there because you know covering their faces that thing is that out here especially... Do we see these beautiful pictures at the attempted deportment? They're from Oklahoma

3:10:10 Even beautiful babies, even beautiful babies, they are even beautiful chemical weapons. It's even beautiful chemical I am tempted guided by the beauty at night. I kept some stuff and now 20 babies are probably destroyed Some stuff kept some stuff and now 20 babies are dead Probably destroyed some kept some stuff and now 20 probably destroyed some kept some stuff and now 20 I am tempted but it's even beautiful I'm just watching you move along. Even beautiful chemical babies... I was going to start this conversation but I can't seem to find those images of fun and incredibly distressing on my own, so we're an audience there covering their faces. The other thing is that out here in the masculine world it's hard for me to notice even beautiful chemical babies. There can be nothing, nothing noticeable

3:11:08 Even beautiful babies are dead. Even beautiful babies are dead. I am tempted and guided by the death night. I am, I am that night! I am, I am tempted at night. I am by the beauty of our weapons. What a night! Oh! Fish fish fish fish fish fish fish fish! You're trying to make a fish game! Don't take that out of context How did you say that? Um... don't take it out- Where's your money? Your money? Fish tank! Car car yeah! Your money? Fish tank! KB! KB! KB!

3:12:21 Adios, mofo. The best podcast in the universe! Wow. Oh my god! Dvorak dot org slash N-A Thanks Obama