Episode 839 · Sunday, 3 July 2016

Spatchcock

A secret tarmac meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch ignites a firestorm as the Benghazi investigation and global election chaos threaten the established political order.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 839

About this episode

The FBI interview of Hillary Clinton and the release of the Benghazi report have neutralized her ability to campaign on her Libya record. Internal documents suggest the Obama administration spent hours debating whether to blame the 2012 attacks on a YouTube video despite knowing it was a terrorist act. Dr. Dorothy Woods, widow of security officer Ty Woods, is now publicly challenging government officials who suggest it is time to move on from the investigation.

In international developments, Australia faces a hung parliament following a tight general election between Malcolm Turnbull and Bill Shorten, while the highest court in Austria has ordered a rerun of the presidential election involving Norbert Hofer. Investigations into the Istanbul Ataturk Airport massacre point to Chechen ISIS recruiter Akhmad Chataev, who reportedly avoided extradition for years due to human rights interventions. Meanwhile, former NATO Supreme Commander Philip Breedlove is under scrutiny after hacked emails revealed he lobbied to arm Ukraine against the wishes of the White House. Domestic concerns rise as the Obama administration admits to civilian drone strike casualties and the NYPD Ring of Steel surveillance network expands its license plate tracking to three million vehicles daily.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the technical failures of their previous broadcast while exploring the bizarre linguistic coincidence of spatchcocking chicken and Loretta Lynch. The duo analyzes the globalist rhetoric of Barry Goldwater and the strange claim by Jean-Claude Juncker that leaders of other planets are worried about the future of the European Union.


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CHAPTER 01 / 55 Discussion

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, No Agenda Episode 839 Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open No Agenda episode 839 from Austin, Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts discuss the term "prophesying" and banter about their respective locations and audio setups.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· austin· silicon valley· podcasting

00:00 Torture, torture, torture everybody. Adam Curry John C. DeVore And Sunday July 3rd 2016 and time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 839-er This is no agenda prophesying twice weekly because we are from the future and we're broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in Femur region 6 Austin Tejas In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where i'm drinking water from a cur jar And I'm not sounding great, John C. DeVore Adler. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning... I'm really trying to make it all work. Really trying to make it sound good. This has been troubling. You said prophesif-facize or whatever it was? Yeah yeah uh prophesying. I know I had to look the word up but then I liked it. Yeah good Have you heard of this word?

00:52 Oh, please. It's an old word everyone knows it I didn't know it You're the only one that I know of this never... you did know it just have not been paying attention Okay, I-I didn't know what I just wasn't paying attention okay Yeah, no, you didn't know because I noticed come up in the show before I don't think so Yeah, yeah. Well. Yeah? Well you're the one with it with a great memory true I have a great man. I have a great memory I Was once a great beauty Anybody remembers where that came from well So I'm trying to make you sound yelling and make you sound good today But I'm having trouble on what's going on with the skype keep fiddling keep fiddling. Oh, I'll just keep fiddling away absolutely

CHAPTER 02 / 55 Discussion

Podcast Production Failures, Audio Routing Errors

A detailed explanation of a massive technical failure during the previous Thursday's show reveals that the wrong recording bus was selected, resulting in a recording containing only clips and no host audio. The backup recording also failed due to an incorrectly configured automatic gain controller, creating a distorted 3D audio effect.

podcast production· audio recording· backup unit· gain controller· technical failure

01:35 We keep constantly tweaking. Yeah, well I had a bad couple of days man mom Okay, I'm cheese right there was like a great spot because it was like I had to make a decision right at this This is how the show works people This is a performance art. I had to make a decision and when he said that immediately I had to either go do something interesting or did he tweak his Kind of my curiosity and what happened, Adam? Wow. Behind the scenes at the No Agenda podcast studio. Behind the scenes in my brain! Did you drink the mouthwash this morning just to question? I should have though it sounds like. Yeah. Uh no we had a massive fail on Thursday's show and it really... Oh God. Yeah I just need-I just want explain what happened then we can move on

02:30 It was somehow the, well two things happened. One I selected the wrong recording bus for the recorder which pretty much gave us a recording of the entire show but only um... The clips we played which is interesting! Actually would have been as interesting as the show itself But these big gaps in between it's pretty funny So that was fail and then i said oh don't worry we have the backup recording And, uh... Yeah. I'm always skeptical because this backup recording seems to be sketchy. So here's what happened. Somehow the final processing unit before it goes into the backup unit had become switched off and it was like, I don't know if

03:22 I don't think i heard anything in my headphones, I should have looking at the routing but I was riding the levels pretty hard so in my head everything was kind of even but this backup device has a little automatic gain thing in it So it was so confused receiving this uncompressed unprocessed signal that it was doing its own thing. It was the levels were all over the place, it was like a 3D... Why is the backup thing doing its own thing? What what isn't just backing up yeah well it's oh that was the third part of the fail Is that somehow that automatic gain controller had switched on in the backup

04:05 Anyway, so it gave this like weird 3D effect and the levels were all over the place and it really bothered me. Especially since you had touted me as such an amazing producer of the podcast which makes it your fault! Which makes it your fault! Exactly I'll take credit for that. You jinxed it. Anyway, she's been in baseball or something. You remember the red biplane that Tina and I flew? I read this yes! Oh my god he crashed into Lake Travis...or not crash, he ditched. He ditched into Lake Travis.

CHAPTER 03 / 55 Discussion

Robert the Biplane Pilot, Lake Travis Ditching Incident

A red biplane, previously flown by the hosts for a Valentine's Day segment, ditched into Lake Travis after an engine failure. The pilot, Robert, is reported safe, though the aircraft was submerged; the hosts critique the pilot's decision to fly at a low altitude of 150 feet over the water.

lake travis· biplane· robert· ditching· aviation· emergency landing

04:43 He ditched. Now the funny thing, this is for people that don't know what Adam's referring to is he took a biplane ride I think when was it? It was like Valentine's Day around Valentine's Day. Oh yes of course! A Valentine's day biplane ride in a red biplane and they had little flowers around and then they went home No! What do you mean with little flowers?! And then they went home and took a bath with candles all over the place Well, we were safe but the video I put it in the show notes if you haven't seen it yet. The videos... Oh my God! Of course I know Robert who flies this thing and he made the right decision but what a day wrecker

05:24 Right in the drench. Did it ruin the plane? I think the plane is... Oh, no that'll have to go back to the jig. Although i will say... He dropped it into water and sunk! Well if he flipped over and personally I don't know the situation. I know what he does and this is his own fault because when he goes over the lake he did it with us he goes down about 150 feet That is your problem. He left no out and there are other places he could have landed around there, but there was you know 150 feet you got an engine failure But I personally I think I would have done a better ditch although it's hard to say because you I wasn't in the situation Have you ever dished a plane? No, but as a helicopter pilot You have a lot more experience in this type of maneuver and pulling up right at the end So that you don't flip over or at least not with such veracity that was

CHAPTER 04 / 55 Discussion

Australian General Election, Hung Parliament Results

Australia faces a hung parliament following a tight general election where neither Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull's Liberal Party nor Bill Shorten's Labor Party secured a clear majority. Vote counting has been paused, and the final result is not expected until at least Tuesday.

australia· malcolm turnbull· bill shorten· liberal party· labor party· hung parliament

06:14 That was pretty nasty. Anyway, everyone's okay so that's good just a bad day that's all very bad day and then there were some other crap going on hey Australia! Australia what? Yeah I am a little disappointed in our Australian producers they have pretty much sent us no information about what's going on there As they woke up this morning, which was yesterday for us to this news. Australia faces the headache of a hung parliament and minority government as there's no clear winner from Saturday's general election vote counting has been paused and it so tight Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull liberal party may need the support of smaller parties to stay in power I remain quietly confident that our majority coalition government

07:06 will be returned at this election when the counting is completed. A clearer result isn't expected until at least Tuesday, but Turnbull's main challenger Labor Party leader Bill Shorten said there was already one clear loser in the prime minister's reform agenda So that's what you're supposed to tell us? There's nothing there I barely even knew the elections were taking place Let's put it that way Ah yes right Yeah, they're remiss. They should be ashamed of themselves. I don't know if they should be ashamed of themselves but... They should be! They should be ashamed that they are not giving us stuff. There should be tons of stuff to talk about tons of funny things. We have nothing. Oh no little... But the other similar sounding country... You mean Austria? Yes So this guy is right winger

CHAPTER 05 / 55 Discussion

Austrian Presidential Election, Norbert Hofer Rerun Order

The highest court in Austria ordered a rerun of the presidential election after far-right candidate Norbert Hofer narrowly lost. The hosts criticize media framing that suggests Hofer might "seize power" through a democratic election, comparing the rhetoric to coverage of Donald Trump.

austria· norbert hofer· far-right· election rerun· propaganda· democracy

08:03 lost, but then it turns out that there's some corruption going on in this election. So they're gonna have to do a redo." In Austria the highest court has ordered a rerun of the presidential election after the far-right candidate Norbert Hofer was narrowly defeated Huffer, who won 49.7 percent of the vote, ran on an anti-migrant platform and would have become the first far right head of state elected in Europe since 1945. The court ruling opens up the possibility he may seize power in a new round of elections. Hold on! Do over! No. Let's take a closer look at democracy now.

08:47 These guys have...and I've got a clip coming up that's even worse. When you win an election, that does not equate to seizing power. True! But when Obama won, President Barack Obama seized power. I'm surprised they didn't say we hammered the country Well, seizing power is that this is one of those propaganda words. It's a very propagandistic word. Totally! One second. Oops, I already dumped the clip and we see if I can get you the ending seizing power is not the same as winning an election and would have become the first far right head of state elected in Europe since 1945 The court ruling opens up the possibility he may seize power in a new round of elections Thank you for catching that because that is indeed bull crap

09:44 It's unbelievable when I heard it. Yeah, you winning an election? Why didn't she just say he will win the election not you win an election, seize power if you're a dictator You are if your right wing crazy guy you are that's that's the messaging Yeah. Donald Trump won the presidency of the United States, he seized power on November 11th or whatever day it would be. Anyway, I found that abhorrent but they're gonna do a do-over for this guy and he may or may not win. And whether...he's running out of...the way they make it sound as though is he just hates you know he's a racist pig right? And by the way Gary Johnson just came out with this statement that Donald Trump is clearly a racist! Oh yeah he was on Bill Maher show and there was really nothing to clip

CHAPTER 06 / 55 Discussion

Gary Johnson, Bill Maher Appearance, Marijuana Use Claims

Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson is criticized for his appearance on Bill Maher's show, with claims made that he appeared to be under the influence of marijuana. The discussion centers on the physical signs of habitual pot use and Johnson's public statements regarding Donald Trump.

gary johnson· bill maher· marijuana· libertarian party· intoxication

10:40 But he was high. I think he was stoned, he was dumb! I'm so disappointed... All the time he's stoned all the time. Oh man, just so disappointed. He's stoned all day? It must be! No seriously, I think he's stoned all the time. He looks like a guy who is stoned if you've been around people they get stoned ALL THE TIME with the exception of YOU by the way. Yes yeah And i've said this before on the show and I'll say it again You never, during that era where you were stoned all the time. And pretty much stoned all the time. In fact I can think of one other person but... You never had any appearance of being stoned. Now that says to me if somebody's really good at getting stoned so they're stoned all the time it's natural they're stoned all the time. Gary Johnson must be really stoned because he would seem to me probably was always stoned all the time

11:32 But to look stoned, like I can see you so you look stoned. I can see when you've drunk too much but when you're stoned To the point where you look stoned You'd have to be really stoned Yeah dude i'm stoned right now So um well no Gary must just be out of his mind Here's the problem if your habitual pot smoker Like several times a day Eventually, the way it works and this is pretty well known and demonstrated. You need much less to get high each time so I can just imagine you know he's in the green room he's getting ready and says oh i'll just take one token then that little bit sends him over the edge. Well on this modern

CHAPTER 07 / 55 Discussion

Benghazi Investigation, Hillary Clinton FBI Interview, Video Narrative

Hillary Clinton sat for an FBI interview regarding her private email server while new details emerge from the Benghazi report. Former CIA operative Claire Lopez and internal documents suggest the Obama administration spent hours debating whether to blame the attacks on a video by Pastor Terry Jones despite knowing it was a terrorist act.

hillary clinton· benghazi· fbi· claire lopez· pastor jones· terry jones

12:25 We read marijuana. Yeah, this stuff is nasty diner. I'm dynamite Not good Okay Well there was a lot of action regarding Hillary Clinton over the weekend She had her quote-unquote interview about the quote-unquote review with the FBI on Saturday What an accord FBI yeah quote unquote FBI and And, you know there's a lot...man everyone seems to certainly Fox News has all kinds of Benghazi documentaries. And I went through the document 799 pages but most of it is known Personally i think the most interesting section is part 2

13:15 which is internal and public government communications about the terrorist attacks in Benghazi. And this details quite clearly what the administration, President Obama, Hillary Clinton et al were doing in these hours after it became known that there was a problem at the consulate in Benghazi Here, now let me see. This one I think is the clip I want this is where The first time I've heard this mentioned but very interesting. Yeah absolutely they like There's no question we know what this by the way is former CIA operative Claire Lopez

13:55 I don't know, she must have a book out or something but she's running around. Yeah absolutely they lied there's no question we know again from judicial watch documents obtained through the FOIA process that the administration including the president and the Secretary of State Clinton were actively involved that very night while the attack was still going on in concocting a false narrative to deflect the story from the truth and defend at all costs, even the cost of American lives, the re-election campaign of the president.

14:34 They were not even decided on which video they were going to blame. They only knew that they were going to blame a video, I don't know if you know about this but there was another video out there created by a minister named Pastor John Now this... To me this is a big smoking gun right here You want to say something? No! I was just gonna make a joke about Pastor John but go on Well now so when you look at this document And you recall that they had a two and half or three hour meeting about, what should we do? But this was already after Sean Smith was dead.

15:15 I'm quoting directly from the part three of the Benghazi report, five of the 10 action items from the rough notes of the 7.30 PM meeting referenced the video including an item mentioning Leonie Panetta, Secretary Defense, Martini Dempsey, Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff reaching out to quote Pastor Jones directly for nearly two years The White House had been issuing public statements in the wake of actions committed by Pastor Jones although no connection at the time linked Pastor Jones To the video Begazi attacks And it appears, if you keep looking at these notes and there's a couple of draft speeches that Hillary was going to give. A lot of stuff in here! They really could not make the decision whether to say it was the Pastor Jones video, Terry Jones?

16:05 Yeah, this is the guy who burned the Qurans. That's the guy. Right and that's the one we played excerpts from during the event. And so they didn't even know who they were going to blame it on by the way. Yes So they didn't even know who they were gonna blame it on! It's really apparent and then of course if you look at the timeline how she was emailing an hour later with Chelsea You know, it's like hey this is a terrorist attack. Same when she called up El Magriaf the... The crime dog? Yes, Magraff! Libyan President Mohammed Magraff same thing said we got to get a problem there and no mention of the video so I think that really is the only thing that matters

CHAPTER 08 / 55 Discussion

National Review, David Brooks, Hillary Clinton Libya Legacy

Political analysts Mark Shields and David Brooks discuss how the Benghazi investigation has neutralized Hillary Clinton's ability to campaign on her record in Libya. The fallout from the 2012 attacks has reportedly removed what was intended to be a centerpiece of her foreign policy credentials.

national review· david brooks· mark shields· libya· hillary clinton

16:53 I mean, other than that there is no real mention or understanding of what we heard from Tony the terrorist which was the whole set up with the guys coming in from Tunisia to kidnap the ambassador. Everything else was true! Everything else was, oh this isn't... We want to make sure this works out for the president's re-election and that's kind of anything of a...I mean The Benghazi report we've heard so much about it just boring. Just boring But, well they did uh I was listening to the news hour with uh they had this other guy uh this Indian guy playing Brooks and he's from

17:34 The New Republic no not the new report national review so we know he hates Trump and so So Brooks not Brooks, but the other guy shields comes out with this very interesting analysis of how well Trump's doing by targeting and trying to cajole the working class And yet a guy it's funny because then National Review just hates Trump. So this guy hates Trump So why is he on the show? And he's supposed to be the right side of the... Yeah, but he's just another Trump hater from The National Review. But they go back and forth and they bring up the Benghazi discussion But Shields makes an interesting point. Apparently, because they said it's a wash because of the way the information came in and they couldn't bust Hillary. She was really good at her 12-hour testimony. Everything kind of became awash so Benghazi is not in play. And Shields came up with very interesting observation he said that does have a kind of effect

18:34 During the election, the early planning for Hillary's run for president was going to kind of be based on the great jobs she did in Libya. Oh wow! It really screwed everything up no wonder she is pissed off as an element of how great she was as Secretary of State, this Libya thing. So that's completely off the table so there was actually... I think it's you know that whole Libyan affair-I think she could use this in one of her in one of her campaign advertisements. Hillary Clinton for president, yeah she could use that I think it's very useful. Well you know a lot of Democrats feel the same way they're buncha butchers. I do have... we had the mom Patricia Smith Sean Smith's mom there there's a new next-of-kin on the circuit

CHAPTER 09 / 55 Discussion

Dorothy Woods, Benghazi Committee Criticism, CNN Interview

Dr. Dorothy Woods, widow of security officer Ty Woods, appeared on CNN to criticize government officials who suggest it is "time to move on" from the Benghazi investigation. She expresses frustration with the dismissal of the committee's work and the lack of accountability for the deaths of Americans.

dorothy woods· aaron burnett· cnn· benghazi· ty woods

19:32 The widow of security officer Woods, this is Dr. Dorothy Woods and she was on CNN with Aaron Burnett Interesting to listen to her and of course, her husband is dead was killed And she also has I guess as little information as Sean Smith Smith's mom does it was a report obviously out this week Both Democrats and Republicans. This has become so politicized and there was a report that came out And here's what she had to say about it. I'll leave it to others to characterize this Report but I think it's pretty clear It's time to move on how do you feel Dorothy when you hear that response? Um, I think that

20:12 Nobody in government can tell me how I feel, what I should feel about it. She has no right nor does anyone in government have the right to tell me it's time to move on they're not in my shoes you know? I think that you know that's the essence of what they have done is they've been dismissive The committee has been ridiculed They've been criticized. And, you know for them to sincerely do the right thing to care about Americans that's what important. I agree in a way with her that it is for the public to decide some people have made their decision others haven't but the facts are there and its up to the Americans, the American people really figure out where they fall on this

21:04 Isn't that odd the way she's responding to this? She is very, you can hear in her voice, she is very disturbed. Nervous and angry. Yeah but the whole let the American people decide I just thought it was kind of odd Well, I don't know. She doesn't seem like she's a happy camper. No no but you know the Hillary telling everybody to move on yeah that's kind of rude. That's Hillary. There's a lot of stuff! Don't you think? Yeah true. Hillary. That's Hillary. It's just Hillary what can you do what can you do

CHAPTER 10 / 55 Discussion

Samantha Power, Cameroon Motorcade Accident Settlement

The United States government paid a compensation package to the family of a seven-year-old boy killed by UN Ambassador Samantha Power's motorcade in Cameroon. The settlement included $1,700, two cows, and several hundred kilos of food supplies including flour, onions, and rice.

samantha power· cameroon· motorcade· compensation· united nations

21:49 So between the previous show and this, how many terror attacks have there now been in the world? I can't change my social media icon fast enough. There's too many terror attacks! I don't know what flag to fly anymore... They're all over the place it's like a barrage It's a terror attack blitz. It is the wheel of terror And in the meantime we miss a lot of news because networks won't tell us certain things like Samantha Powers killing a kid. Oh, I didn't hear about this what happened? Of course you're never gonna hear about this! She killed the kid?! She didn't directly kill the kid... oh wait this is old news isn't it? Isn't this old news though that her... It was just on Friday i don't think because i think it happened a while ago but yeah did what happened which changed as they finally made a settlement

22:38 And this discusses the settlement. In Cameroon, the United States has paid compensation to the family of a seven-year old boy who was fatally run over by UN Ambassador Samantha Power's motorcade in April. The compensation includes two cows hundreds of kilos of flour onions rice salt and sugar and about $1700 dollars. The boy was killed after an armored Jeep and Powers convoy hit him at top speed Wow that's Interesting compensation package. Have some sheep! Yeah, how generous man to wash in family so we have You know this let's if we go back to the Ataturk Airport Istanbul airport Attack that still no and of course everything else that is ISIS right away claims it then they're all over the place

CHAPTER 11 / 55 Discussion

Istanbul Ataturk Airport Attack, Chechen ISIS Recruiters

Investigations into the Istanbul airport massacre point to Russian ISIS recruiters from the Chechen minority as the masterminds. Turkish authorities have arrested 15 foreigners and identified suicide bombers from Russia, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan, highlighting Turkey's struggle to control its borders.

istanbul· ataturk airport· isis· chechnya· turkey· terrorism

23:37 However, the Istanbul airport attack. This is now Russian ISIS recruiters just to make it even... Yeah from Chechnya Yes and of course we had the one-eyed guy, Abu Makda Maka with one eye and now we got the one armed, Ahmed the One Armed Guy I didn't know this was one armed Yeah yeah listen Ahmed Chataev is a ISIS commander and convicted arms smuggler as well as the mastermind... Listen to... Sorry, go on. It's okay but just listen to uh... The massacre at Istanbul's main airport according to a US official and Turkish media reports like thousands of other ISIS... By the way that's beautifully produced did you hear that? So she does the pause they get the big explosion AK-47 gunfire perfectly timed well produced... Turkish media reports

24:35 Like thousands of other ISIS fighters. I like the sound effect, it's got a nice... It is good. Is from Russia's Chechen minority and a veteran of Chechnya brutal conflict with the Russian state A US official says he's believed to be in Raqqa The so-called ISIS capital Turkey State News Agency today named two of the suicide bombers as Rakim Bulgurov and Vadim Osmanov and also reported that Istanbul police arrested 15 foreigners in connection with the attack. There are conflicting reports about where the bombers came from, including Russia, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan but all are recruiting grounds for ISIS

25:21 For five years now, foreign fighters have used Turkey as a transit country to reach the Syrian war zone. In 2013 we watched people slipping through the border fence in broad daylight. There's better security now, but Hirschit Güneş a Turkish politician told us the airport bombing is partly a result of Turkey's failure to control its border. Some people call it a highway some people call it a connection point and now turkey has become a target Yes. The bombers reportedly used a cocktail of explosives in their suicide vests and Josh, we've learned that those explosives are widely used in the Syrian conflict and readily purchased on the black market here in Turkey. So they're really doing everything they can to pin this on these guys um...and this one-armed guy and have another report here with a timeline I mean it's unbelievable you know what Britain

CHAPTER 12 / 55 Discussion

Akhmad Chataev, European Asylum, Extradition Failures

ISIS commander Akhmad Chataev, known as "Akhmad One Arm," was repeatedly arrested across Europe but avoided extradition to Russia due to human rights concerns raised by groups like Amnesty International. Despite being on Interpol lists since 2003, he traveled freely through Austria, Sweden, and Ukraine before joining the Islamic State in Syria.

akhmad chataev· amnesty international· austria· extradition· terrorism

26:18 Yay to Brexit, because your compatriots there in the European Union are effing up big time. The Russian government waged two anti-terror campaigns against militants in the North Caucasus and this is when he first came to their attention He was named as a person of interest during this time and earns the nickname Akhmad One Arm. He allegedly lost one of his arms... I'm sorry They need to do a better job with this, uh... With the nickname. Ahmed One Arm? It doesn't sound good! You know what I mean? Should be anything but Ahmed One Arm. The one-armed ISIS fighter or something better than that

27:00 These all sound like they're derived from mafia nicknames. Anything, anything dependent on these guys now listen to the timeline one arm he allegedly lost one of his arms during the Chechen conflict He was able to leave Russia 12 years ago and he was granted asylum in Austria And despite being on Russia's wanted list even since 2003 for terrorist activities Now, despite Russia's warnings he was welcomed into the West with open arms and granted this asylum. And he has been able to move freely across Europe and post-Soviet states. By no means has it been lying low during this time He is being arrested multiple times in various countries across Europe If we take a look back at his history it would really send alarm bells ringing In 2003 Ahmed Chataev wanted by Russia Is granted asylum in Austria allowing him to travel freely across Europe

27:53 Oh, this by the way is all part of the free movement of people. Didn't keep a low profile he was arrested multiple times in different countries In 2008 He was arrested with ammunition and guns in Sweden and jailed The same year he was added to the Interpol wanted list By Russia After his release he was arrested yet again This time in Ukraine where he was found with bomb making manuals And photos of terror victims Following this, Russia demanded his extradition but rights groups opposed the move. Amnesty International urged Ukrainian authorities not to extradite Chataev to Russia amid fears he would be at risk of torture and other grave human rights violations. Way to go Human Rights!

28:36 Way to go. Wow, good work! In 2011 he was arrested- Actually I had this clip that you played earlier but for some reason i never extended it to this part of the clip Oh well because it's so crappy I had to cut out like 18 different pauses very weird read the guy did. Human rights violations in 2011 he was arrested at the Bulgarian-Turkish border. Russian pleas for his extradition were again denied A year later in Georgia, he was arrested in an anti terror operation and charged with illegal arms possession Extradition was again refused In 2015 reports emerged that Chataev had entered Syria and joined Islamic State He is finally put on the US Terror List

29:19 That's unbelievable. So this guy was arrested everywhere, you know wanted to be extradited... Oh we can't have him extradited because they might hurt him in Russia! It is really really unbelievable. They're responsible for the death of those people in the airport if all this is true? I think there's certainly culpability. Certainly. Yeah. Certainly now but there's a lot going on with Turkey right now so we had Erdogan apologized about shooting down the Russian jet. Putin then says, okay that's good we should stop the ban on tourism although I'm not sure the Russians want to go right now and will also start cranking up the Nord Stream 2 which you know is now we're calling it Turkish stream and the reason why this is important as Israel just came out and said hey

CHAPTER 13 / 55 Discussion

Leviathan Gas Field, Israel-Turkey Relations, Harold Rode

Israel and Turkey are moving toward a gas deal involving the Leviathan fields as President Erdogan seeks to replace Russian energy supplies. Analyst Harold Rode notes that despite personal animosity between leaders, economic necessity is driving a potential pipeline project through Cyprus or Greece to Europe.

leviathan gas field· israel· turkey· recep tayyip erdogan· noble energy

30:18 You know, we're about ready to start uh... Some of that gas flowing from the Leviathan fields, which we've talked about Leviathan and you know the Leviathan gas field off the coast of not just Israel but Lebanon Syria. I mean it's going to be quite interesting to see who thinks that gas is theirs. Noble Energy with former President Clinton on the board of advisors they're the ones that are in there and the Israelis are talking about either pumping gas to Turkey But, you know, hey we could always just build a really long pipeline up through Cyprus into Greece and you know, we could bypass Turkey. So Turkey is trying to get all their ducks in a row. And I think that will also see some real problems off the coast while Lebanon and Syria will see some real problems about the claim as to who really owns all of this Leviathan gas field. So there's a lot of moves...I have actually have a clip from...who was this guy?

31:18 This is Harold Rode. He, uh... Yeah somewhere I got his Wikipedia page He's kind of a super neocon, let me see... American specialist on Middle East and worked as an analyst at the Pentagon for 28 years. That's all you need to know Israel will need to sell gas And as a result of Erdogan screwing up his relationship with Putin The Russians stopped selling gas So Israel needs to sell gas The Turks desperately need gas It is also good route to send gas to Europe And so it suits everybody's economic needs. There is very clearly no love Israel feels towards Erdogan, and Erdogan hates the Jews! He hates the Jewish state! Yeah there you go...fighting words! Another one of those guys!

CHAPTER 14 / 55 Discussion

US-Russia Diplomatic Incident, CIA Spy Allegations, John Kirby

A physical altercation occurred at the US Embassy in Moscow between a US diplomat and a Russian security guard. While the State Department's John Kirby describes it as harassment of personnel, Russian officials claim the individual was a disguised CIA agent returning from an intelligence operation.

john kirby· state department· russia· moscow· cia· espionage

33:10 That's very strange. But I see it everywhere, I see these... Yeah, I've noticed with a number of people and thinking what is the point you're trying to make here? When I see it, I just think they hate the Jews. Meanwhile we have some real issues with our diplomats and this is, I would say poorly being covered up by the State Department. I don't know if you followed any of this but there's let's see what happened apparently a State Department official in the embassy in Russia was harassed by security guard and oh yeah broke I have been following this started with the you know the state department diplomats are causing trouble. Well, um...I have a report here this came up of course

34:01 Question and answer session with the State Department spokeshole Kirby. According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, on the record on that night a US diplomat emerged from a taxi late at night in a low-cap pull down over his face rushed to the checkpoint refused to show his credentials hit the sentry in the face with his elbow pushed the security guard and fled into the embassy is Is that the State Department's understanding of the events of that night, or do you dispute the official Russian account? Josh I'm not able to speak to the specifics Of course not. Any particular incident

34:39 But I can say that we continue to be very troubled by the way our employees have been treated over the past couple of years. And I can tell you that we've raised those concerns at the highest levels, including the President Putin there in Moscow harassment and surveillance of our diplomatic personnel in Moscow by security personnel and traffic police have increased significantly. Yeah it seems like what you do. I think pretty sure would do the same to the Russian officials officials here and we continue to find this unacceptable i've also seen these comments made by russian officials which are factually inaccurate on moscow knows that all too well however the uh... were not interested in a state's nationalists and having a public debate on on the issue we believe that this is best handled in private government to go

35:25 discussions that's how we're going to media yeah wait for it because this guy comes back with what the russians actually said continue to do this uh, We've raised as I said our serious concerns all the way up to the highest levels of the Russian government and the last thing i'd say is The Secretary takes extremely seriously our responsibility to look after the safety and well-being of our personnel overseas, wherever they are. Yeah! Well done in Benghazi! The Russian Foreign Ministry also said that there is a video of the incident that they've handed to the State Department that is in your possession, is that correct? We were aware of a video, yes. Will you release that video? I know no plans to release that video The Russian foreign ministry said that the diplomat is a known CIA agent who was disguised and returning from an intelligence operation Is that correct? I'm just not going into more details about these incidents Gee there's spies in the State Department? I'm shocked! Go figure! That's a beauty And...I actually heard that this spy was possibly doing something for the Hillary

36:23 I'm not sure why, but that's just what I heard. Just to throw it out there. I had no other corroboration. What are you doing in Russia for the Hillary campaign? I have no idea! I was a spy. That makes more sense! Of course it does! What's the point of hammering some poor, just some guy working for foreign services and he's getting out of his cab to go do some paperwork? You're gonna arrest him, it's not worth the trouble The guy is already leading a miserable life But just being a fan of the Americans and having watched all of those episodes, I was like, yeah. Of course he's a spy! Obviously... And so now we're probably harassing Russian diplomats. We know Russians have a bunch of spies over here too. Yeah, why wouldn't they? I'd love to see that video. That would be fun

CHAPTER 15 / 55 Discussion

Khalid al-Masri, CIA Extraordinary Rendition, Wrongful Detention

A newly released internal report confirms the CIA wrongfully imprisoned and tortured German citizen Khalid al-Masri in a secret Afghan prison. Despite realizing he was not the suspect they sought within three months, the agency held him for several more months before dumping him in Albania.

khalid al-masri· cia· extraordinary rendition· afghanistan· torture

37:20 Well, there are no plans to release it. Yeah thanks! Why not? Somebody should say why not? Why not release it what are you afraid of? What are you afraid that you're just lying up there standing at the podium just boldface lies and you want to make a video? Matt Lee did get in his face about it but it wasn't worth clipping was just sad It reminds me since you brought up the CIA, I got a CIA clip. Okay. Actually got two of them. All righty. Play this one! This is an interesting another untold story by the mainstream media this came up in... I believe probably democracy now. You take the good with the bad with this show." This is a CIA al-Masri story. A newly released internal CIA report has revealed how the agency arrested, imprisoned and interrogated German citizen Khalid al-Masri at a secret prison in Afghanistan even though the CIA knew he was not the man they were looking for.

38:16 articles, how the CIA seized al-Masri after Macedonian agents accused him of being a member of Al Qaeda traveling on a false passport. Yet no one from the CIA even looked at al-Masri's passport for the first three months of his imprisonment—at which point agents determined his passport was real and that there was, as CIA agents wrote, quote, "'no basis to justify' the continued detention of al-Masri," unquote. Yet the agency continued to hold al-Masri for months because it could not decide on exit strategy. Finally CIA agents dumped him in Albania and told him to go home. Al-Masri says he was tortured while imprisoned by the CIA, he's seeking an apology from the US government. And who was this guy again?

39:00 He was a nobody, he was a shmendrick. It was the guy that Macedonia claimed must have been some horrible person who's got a fake passport and you should pick him up. So I guess they... Okay! They picked him up and beat him up, I guess. Kept them for awhile to figure out the guy was just some guy, some schmuck. And then they What are we going to do? I don't know. And they dropped him off on some street corner in Albania and took off just after like a year or two, I guess." Yeah well let's just stick with CIA for a moment then okay yeah i didn't have this on Thursday show but the little sit down chat and the whole talk that CIA...I'm sorry CI director Brennan did at the Council on Foreign Relations

CHAPTER 16 / 55 Discussion

John Brennan, 9/11 Commission, 28 Pages Declassification

CIA Director John Brennan addressed the potential release of the redacted "28 pages" from the 9/11 inquiry during a Council on Foreign Relations event. Brennan downplayed the significance of the documents, suggesting they contain unvetted speculation that could be misrepresented by the public.

john brennan· cia· 28 pages· 9/11 commission· bob graham

39:52 included a question about the so-called 28 pages. The 28 pages of the 911 Commission Report, which were redacted and held from public view... And journalists actually asked them hey what are we going to do with that? Since it's now pretty well known I think everyone kind of knows what's in it Yeah, I think enough people have read it and leaked what's in it We're pretty sure we know what's in it. Although the whole thing could be a scan, maybe you don't know anything." Well there is also this file 17 which is kind of a... that is a public document and its kind of an overview of what the 28 pages are comprised of And I believe this came from Bob Graham, he put this out

40:41 Anyway, so here's Brennan talking about the 28 pages as a question is asked. Director Brennan my question concerns the 28 pages you've been on record about your view of their relative lack of value. My question is timing of release and the level of declassification and whether they will also be released with the investigative report which puts it all in context? Well, I am only the director of CIA so I don't make the decisions about the release of a congressional document to the joint inquiry that was produced in December 2002. That subsequently was followed up with an 9-11 commission that thoroughly investigated all the allegations and information that was in those documents

41:25 28 or 29 pages. Leave it to Bieber thing! So there's an executive branch responsibility because that document cited executive branch information, so there is a I think has been said publicly there's been a review that has been underway and so there is going to be the appropriate discussions that need to take place between the executive and legislative branches to finalize that. I believe it's important that document get out because there is so much speculation and conjecture about it I have said that there are a lot of things in there that unfortunately, I think will be used by some to maybe misrepresent the facts or history. But that's why the 9-11 Commission thorough, thorough research investigation really should be seen by folks as much more dispositive of it and there are some other documents that may come out at the same time as you point out but again I deferred others who have their decision making responsibility.

CHAPTER 17 / 55 Discussion

White House Drone Strike Casualty Report, Civilian Deaths

The Obama administration released a report on the Friday before July 4th weekend claiming between 64 and 116 civilians were killed in drone strikes outside active war zones since 2009. Independent watchdog groups argue these figures are significantly lower than actual death tolls, which are estimated to be at least double the government's count.

drone strikes· obama administration· civilian casualties· cia· transparency

42:26 Okay, that's yeah I don't even know what he said. Well, what he said was it's up to Congress to release it but there is nothing in there. Nothing to see here move along and its really not a big deal folks... And since you have a clip for we might as well discuss uh.. What the White House released on Friday The end of day Friday which is exactly what you want to do with um... With news that you really dont want anyone to talk about? No just no any friday No, not any Friday. The long weekend Friday the holiday weekend Friday 4th of July that's when you want to release finally the numbers of civilians and others killed with our CIA operated drone strikes all over the world

43:15 Shall I play your report that you have here? Yes, play away. Caleb Maupin explains... The report from the White House indicates that between 64 and 116 non-combatant civilians have died as a result of US drone strikes now it was made clear by the White House that this report does not include people who died in Afghanistan Iraq or Syria The reason that these three countries were excluded is because these are considered to be active war zones. And according to the White House, the number of civilian deaths in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria are classified—that information is classified. These numbers released by the White House—again 64 to 116 civilians estimated killed according to the White House report—are much lower than the numbers given by many independent civilian watchdog groups. In fact, the numbers given are roughly half

44:03 of the lowest estimates given by independent groups. Many people rate many, many independent investigators and civilian watchdogs say the numbers of people killed noncombatant civilians killed are much higher The timing of their report is also interesting. The report was released on Friday before the July 4th Independence Day weekend in the United States and as the report was coming out Already the streets of DC were clogged with people who are leaving the city. The report was covered in US media, but there was very little reaction to it." Classified! Yeah! Yeah classified... Well I have the numbers which is another number here another metric that was released so first we have combatant deaths somewhere between 2372 and 2581

44:53 That's a lot of drones, a lot of drone people being killed. And that's not in the areas where they use them mostly? And interesting was and then we have the noncombatant deaths which is a range of 64 to 116 but this number I liked total number of strikes against terrorist targets outside areas of active hostilities. You know we are just A-holes with no wonder You can't just, you know... this death from the skies. People have no idea and we don't think about it. Eh, we'll do a surgical strike it's all fine but just drone kill dead I have a real problem with his strategy and these numbers God knows these numbers I don't know if there is anything true to them or not seems low It's definitely low

45:52 There's way too many. I mean at some point you say well this is a bunch of propaganda that we're killing all these innocents like the whole entire wedding both families, yeah uh that sort of thing but there's too many of these reports. There's too many people looking into it and also it's unconstitutional at this point. We really have to stop doing this Yeah, we're in this because there's no oversight this way. There is no oversight We know at least two American citizens were killed by drone without any due process It's just that we need oversight on right one kid at a cafe depending on the stories either sitting in a cafe Where he could have been picked up if they wanted to do that? it's no problem or is that some you know another wedding or people getting married a lot of out of fear I don't know and this is this note its

CHAPTER 18 / 55 Discussion

Domestic Drone Concerns, Eye in the Sky Movie

The conversation shifts to the potential for drone technology to be used within the United States and the lack of oversight for covert killing programs. The hosts also briefly review the film "Eye in the Sky" starring Helen Mirren, expressing a lack of interest in its portrayal of drone warfare.

drones· surveillance· helen mirren· eye in the sky· constitution

46:42 The way I see it, the real problem is that once the drones start flying over the United States... That's when we should be really worried? And taken well. Yeah! It'll be a little late. Let's face it, we're not really worried about these murders that are going on all over Northern Africa and every place else. We're not worried to any extent. I'm not worried, well... But we don't hear about it! I'm disgusted. This is the point because there's no oversight because it's a covert program when on Tuesdays you know the president takes a look at the list and goes yeah all right yeah we'll take that one. That's good? I almost get the feeling that Obama would actually like to be at the controls

47:30 You should invite him down to Las Vegas. Actually flying. Yeah, there it is Mr President you can just push the red button. Go ahead go ahead I tried watching the Eye in the Sky movie with what's her name? The famous British Yeah, the award-winning old lady. What's her name? I don't know Vanessa redgrave. No no oh come on I and I could not I could not get through it. I'll tell you who it is yeah I always thought it was odd that she was in this this is uh Helen Mirren Oh, yeah, she likes to work. I guess because it's well made and everything but who cares I don't know what are you trying to tell us? Didn't sit very well

CHAPTER 19 / 55 Discussion

Bashar al-Assad Interview, Western Security Cooperation

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad claimed in an interview with Australia's SBS that Western countries are covertly sending security officials to cooperate with his government against militants. Assad accused the West of a double standard, attacking him politically while seeking his help to prevent domestic terror attacks.

bashar al-assad· syria· sbs australia· isis· al-nusra front

49:12 Meanwhile, Bashar al-Assad did an interview with Australian broadcaster SBS which I didn't hear much about here and of course his message was... No you didn't hear much about it. It was not... broadcast, or rebroadcast or anything else. You didn't hear much about it because it was suppressed Well here is what he said Serious President Assad is claiming that Western countries have sent security officials to help his government covertly fight militants He told Australian TV earlier this week the Western states opposed his rule but faced a threat of attacks at home in the name of Islam Actually this is double standard of the West

49:57 They attack us politically and they send us officials to deal with us under the table, especially the security. Including your government they all do the same. They don't want to upset the United States actually most of the Western officials they only repeat what the United States wants them to say this is reality A Syrian warplane crashed northeast of Damascus on Friday. An insurgents captured and killed its pilot according to both Syrian and rebel sources Meanwhile a monitoring group and rebels say that in a rare gain, insurgents including the Al-Qaeda affiliated Nusra Front seized a strategic town in Latakia province Government forces had captured it in February So I have to understand this correctly

50:40 So we're funding YPG, we're funding al-Nusra, we're funding multiple groups who are there to attack I guess ISIL but also they're against the Assad regime and then were also sending security forces to protect the Assad regime? Well I didn't quite get that clear. It was almost as if he was saying and maybe you have to play it again... He's saying Western countries are helping us to fight ISIS and all the rest of them because they're getting, you know, bombed in their countries. And so they want us to be like a line of defense but they don't wanna talk about it because United States... This is what I heard, because the United States gets all bent out of shape if there's...if you're not doing what they tell you to do. So I'm not so sure that we are helping him

51:32 Okay, but right you said Western country. Yeah, all right But they're doing it at the behest of the United States I think no no I got to just the opposite opinion really so this way so our allies are Undermining us yeah because they don't want to get their cities bombed oh They wanted ISIS to stop there in Syria, gotta keep them occupied. So here we'll send some helpers over there and you can use them." What a clu- this is a clusterfuck! Well that's not okay well that's not the worst of it I have the Breland thing Oh yeah i have a clip Try mine because mine was...I believe mine came from RT You probably had the same one Yeah from RT This is like

CHAPTER 20 / 55 Discussion

General Philip Breedlove, Hacked Emails, Ukraine Policy

Hacked emails from former NATO Supreme Commander Philip Breedlove reveal he was privately lobbying to arm the Ukrainian government against President Obama's wishes. The correspondence shows Breedlove working with officials like Victoria Nuland to escalate the conflict and bypass the White House's reluctance to provide lethal aid.

philip breedlove· nato· ukraine· victoria nuland· hacked emails

52:17 Yeah, I got it. Very interesting this is the because NATO is supposed to be a defensive organization that keep you know aggression on the from coming at us but we all know NATO really is the sales arm of the military-industrial complex exactly Hacked emails from the account of a former NATO Supreme Commander reportedly show that he privately plotted against President Obama over his policies in Russia again Chekian has got the story The hacked emails of retired General Philip Ridloff, who until recently was the commander of NATO forces in Europe reveal the intense back-channel lobbying for the Obama administration to arm the Ukrainian government against the rebels in the east.

53:03 Emails are from 2014, at the height of the war in Ukraine. Brydlov attempted to influence the administration through several channels reaching out to various former and present officials as well as seeking advice from foreign policy experts. Here's a snippet of what they discussed I don't see this White House really engaged by working with Europe or NATO. Frankly, I think we're a worry. I seek your counsel on two fronts how to frame this opportunity and at time when all eyes are on ISIL and two how to work this personally with the President of the United States Given Obama's instruction to you not to start war This may be a tough sell

53:46 This is a mess. I do not understand our White House General Bridloff appears to have been frustrated by President Obama's reluctance to further militarize the conflict in Ukraine and, by doing so increase the bloodshed In a string of emails which were addressed to officials including Assistant Secretary Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador to Ukraine Jeffrey Pyatt Bridloff says Toria, meaning Victoria Noland can attest there is precious little support for lethal aid. This has changed on the military side but still not across the river." In this context the now retired general seems to have been working very hard

54:30 to escalate the conflict in Ukraine. What I didn't understand from this story is where the hack, what was the source of the hack? I know he had it was a Gmail account which leads me to believe it could have been an inside hack more than just a hack. No... I don't think so. The Russians are hacking everything, that's why I'm totally convinced... But no but, oh sure, I'm okay with that but it was not like they painted on anybody No they didn't say anything. I noticed the same thing there was a talk there was a hack but there was no blame because in this country we're all, we get bent out of shape about who did the hack and were all concerned

CHAPTER 21 / 55 Discussion

Russian Hacking Capabilities, Stuxnet, Cybersecurity

The hosts discuss the superior technical skills of Russian hackers, noting their role in identifying the Stuxnet virus and decoding DVD encryption. They argue that the mainstream media suppresses the extent of Russian cyber capabilities to avoid alarming the public about the vulnerability of Western systems.

russia· hacking· cybersecurity· stuxnet· dcs

55:09 I think it's pretty clear the Russians did the hack. And this isn't come out, we talk about on the show Hillary's whole server is probably owned by the Russians because one of the things that we don't discuss when we're talking about Chinese hacks and North Korean hacks and all these other hacks in hackers in the country... The Russians probably have some of the greatest hackers in the world They're the ones that do the antivirus stuff. They're the ones who found Stuxnet, the Russians are... outrageously good at computer science, but we never talk about it in this... for some reason the mainstream media never discusses the Russians and their capabilities. And so the Russians are obviously hacking a lot of that stuff they're the ones who hacked into Victoria Nuland phone conversation. That was never really discussed as a Russian hack It was never really even played on anywhere. They said oh we can't have this getting out there

56:06 There is some suppression of this fact that the Russians are as good at hackers as we are. They've helped decode the DCS, DCS, DSS whatever that thing is that's on the DVDs. There was a kid who came over here, Russian kid this is number of years ago you remember? Oh yeah yes it was the copyrighted. Yeah he comes over and shows some sort of hack that outrageous and they decide to arrest him And we had the Russian guys who were doing all the flash trading they built all that which I don't think they want to scare the public with any of this. Because if you really knew what the Russians could do, you would be kind of like... What are we doing making enemies of these people? And meanwhile apparently Guccifer is gone! He's gone since when? They can't find him. He escaped from prison. I didn't know they ever arrested him Yeah, I had a... This is very odd

CHAPTER 22 / 55 Discussion

Guccifer 2.0, DNC Hack, Missing Hacker Reports

Reports suggest the hacker known as Guccifer has gone missing from a US jail, leading to speculation about his extraction. Meanwhile, Guccifer 2.0 continues to post hacked DNC documents on a WordPress blog, which the hosts encourage listeners to download before the site is taken down.

guccifer 2.0· dnc· hillary clinton· hacking· wordpress

57:12 Very odd story. Let's see where was it? The good hacker like that should be a even though it seems unlikely to most people but here we go I got in here there's no reason the good hacker can't hack into a system and develop and design his own release papers so Marcelo Lazar Who is known as Guccifer was discovered missing? The FBI discovered he was missing who were sent to interview him at a US jail where he is supposed to be. He was extracted? Yeah, and he's gone! I don't know what happened... Well there's an untold story Where's the mainstream media on that? Of course the mainstream media won't even mention the guy No they don't want to do that because when you mention Guccifer then you have to bring up the hacked DNC documents then it all becomes about Hillary They just will not do that They will not do it

58:12 So is his WordPress blog still up? Probably. I haven't looked, and i haven't seen anything new. He's disappeared so they extracted him that's funny it is gucifer2.wordpress.com nice something about yeah he put up an FAQ on June 30th okay no new documents though as far as i know Just but this cool document. I'm sure you took the spreadsheet with it with the email addresses of all these millionaires I Downloaded everything on that site because I don't believe it's gonna be up forever Oh, no It can't be I'm surprised as I wasn't digging any chances are losing the material on there so I have a copy I'm sure a lot of people have done that if you're smart You do that? Because III was stunned that it was posted Yeah

59:05 Yeah, there's a lot of bad stuff on there all against Hillary which makes me think there's worse stuff out there. Yeah now what do you know? It was on a WordPress blog I mean you go to a WordPress blog and he got all this criminal information it's unbelievable yeah oh for those who don't know it's Guccifer2.wordpress.com that's very simple just google uh Guccifer 2.0 and you'll find Yeah. It'll be up for... I would say if you see it in two months, you'd be surprised. Before we thank some of our executive and associate executive producers today, I did want to just stop momentarily. I've been avoiding it for as long as I could because it makes me ill to think of it and seeing pictures of it really rises bile in my throat

CHAPTER 23 / 55 Discussion

Burger King Mac and Cheetos, Native Advertising, Media Shills

The rollout of Burger King's "Mac and Cheetos" is used as an example of massive native advertising buys. The hosts play clips from news segments on Fox News and other outlets that present promotional material as organic news, including staged "man on the street" taste tests.

burger king· mac and cheetos· native advertising· fox news· jimmy kimmel

59:57 You no longer need to send me pictures, news articles or tweet anything about the Burger King Mac and Cheetos. Okay? It makes me want to throw up but it is worth Noting that just like we see with other fast-food restaurants This is a big ass media buy Big Media by two examples of how it works in case you didn't know what native advertising is here is Chicago over Doritos Locos Tacos. There's a new food food hybrid in town. Burger King has rolled out the Mac and Cheetos, yep you heard that right, Mac and Cheetos essentially they're Cheeto's powdered mozzarella sticks deep fried and filled with mac and cheese. They're only available for eight weeks or unless they run out sooner and customers will have to fork over $2.49 a pack so far only a few Burger King locations mostly in Southern California have already started to offer this snack sticks

1:01:00 So that's an ad and that is bought and paid for. Oh, that's not an ad! That's a news report Adam well this is important news there are all kinds of things happening in the world and this is right up there with the most important of them Well case-in-point Fox News took to the streets Mashups just keep getting crazier and crazier but Burger King has taken it to the next level with the Mac & Cheeto It's deep fried mac and cheese with a dusting of cheetos Basically it just looks like a giant Cheeto, but does it taste good? We took to the streets to find out. Now let me guess if you take to the streets and do your man on the street interviews perhaps there would be one person who said I don't like it that much. I would say no. Well this is all shills of course so we don't worry about that though You would think one person...

1:01:53 Jimmy Kimmel on the street. Legitimately, they'd find probably half the people that wouldn't like it and half of them never had it! But that's not what the advertiser paid for! No but before you play that which I know what your doing and agree with that this is all such bullshit that would come to mind to me immediately is to do the man on the street thing. That has got a cost of fortune as a native ad? Sure, sure I mean just doing the bull crap story is one thing and that's gotta cost you at least a couple ads normal ads

1:02:29 This has got to be 5X or this has gotta be unless they, unless Fox wanted it so bad that this is what they just, you know chum the water with some. We'll do this for you we'll do that for you if you give us one of these gigs. Yeah and before people asking me in the chat room why are you playing it on your show? To teach you You need to understand what is happening. It's crispy. It needs a little bit more of a kick. They're not too salty I get wax poetic about this, but it's good Would you expect to like mac and cheese and Cheetos together? Like this yeah! I think this is a good snack. It's got both the best rolls. I think it's really good. I like that the outside kind of crispy. I didn't really know what to expect from a Mac & Cheeto frankly But yeah, it's about what I expected

1:03:23 Oh wow. I'm surprised it actually tastes as good as it does. It goes to a nice mixture. I think you even slipped in the macaroni shell and like... Now, you get the idea. Hold on a second! Even when they go out and ask about if Hillary Clinton shot somebody in this street They don't ask a million people they asked three. This kept going there's another 20 seconds Maybe some pasta in there? Oh that's good! Oh my god! It's definitely different And not a single obese person in the bunch.

1:04:09 Who are testing how can you walk down the streets of any American city and not find an obese person who would love Mac and Cheetos? Persons have a harder. There's little harder for them to get acting gigs Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand And with that I would like to say in the morning to you, and thank you for your courage John C with us he stands for Canadian dollar at Stavorek Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there And in the morning too everyone in the chat room of course noagendastream.com and NickTheRat who brought us artwork for episode 838 nice to have

CHAPTER 24 / 55 Discussion

No Agenda Artwork, Nick the Rat, Episode 838

The hosts credit Nick the Rat for the artwork of episode 838, which depicts Hillary Clinton with a Tommy gun. They discuss the submission process at NoAgendaArtGenerator.com and how certain pieces are selected for their relevance to current show themes.

no agenda· podcast art· nick the rat· hillary clinton· tommy gun

1:03:23 Oh wow. I'm surprised it actually tastes as good as it does. It goes to a nice mixture. I think you even slipped in the macaroni shell and like... Now, you get the idea. Hold on a second! Even when they go out and ask about if Hillary Clinton shot somebody in this street They don't ask a million people they asked three. This kept going there's another 20 seconds Maybe some pasta in there? Oh that's good! Oh my god! It's definitely different And not a single obese person in the bunch.

1:04:09 Who are testing how can you walk down the streets of any American city and not find an obese person who would love Mac and Cheetos? Persons have a harder. There's little harder for them to get acting gigs Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand And with that I would like to say in the morning to you, and thank you for your courage John C with us he stands for Canadian dollar at Stavorek Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there And in the morning too everyone in the chat room of course noagendastream.com and NickTheRat who brought us artwork for episode 838 nice to have

1:04:56 to have Nick back on the stick. There were a number of nice pieces... Nick on the Stick! This was the Hillary Clinton Tommy Gun shot, which just worked. It works so well. Very nice. NoahJendartGenerator.com is where you can find all these submissions and where we always choose from right after the show and of course we appreciate the work that our artists do. Anything you wanted to add about the art? Was there something we needed to mention? Was there? I forgot. I don't know, I don't know... I know we looked at that the art selection- We had a good selection of people who drew art up and uh i think they were like three pieces we kind of liked

1:05:39 Yeah, pieces that could be used for newsletters etc. So we will probably use them as evergreen somewhere else but the Nick the Rat one with the machine gun thing was good because it was a good reference to her liking to shoot Tommy guns and that was a Tommy gun and just...and that look on her face is a good Hillary face to use it with that crazy look on her face yeah That was a good piece I don't know. I didn't know what i was supposed to say it doesn't matter well be better thank you let's thank some people john yes we do have a few people to thank right off the top we have our archduke and believe he says not a grand duke yet is he uh he's archduke archduke still his art i believe i believe

CHAPTER 25 / 55 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, 13 Colonies Contest, Karma Reads

A segment dedicated to thanking high-tier donors, including Archduke Dwayne Melanson and Russ Williamson. The segment covers various topics from "big data" being a marketing scam to a ham radio "13 colonies" contest and a memorial for a donor's father-in-law who passed away from pancreatic cancer.

donations· ham radio· 13 colonies· big data· pancreatic cancer

1:06:32 Yeah, this is... Well he must be very close. He's still the Archduke he says. He's getting there and Grand Duke is a long haul from Tiger to Oregon Dwayne Melanson ITM serves from the Archduke of the Pacific Northwest I've enjoyed your analysis lately as well as the Brexit coverage A lot of people did like the Brexit coverage This is my Brits out of BS donation Oh 800.85 I get it B-O-O-8, so B-O-O-B-S. Brits out of BS. Ah! Hacksaw lives! And now he wants a Karma and a Sharpton to all producers. There's no real conflict! How about that? You've got karma. You ask we play. Um... Next we have... Well I'm not gonna bitch about this but

1:07:32 If you can tell me who it was, I'll read it. James Nath-Pleotis? Yeah... Naf-Naf-Yeah. And this is a 333333? 700 Oh its 700! Yes! As of a year ago, I found you guys on the YouTube channel Conspiracy Archive Thanks. Well, I was looking for squirrels and spider goats! I've been hooked ever since. Also got my brother hooked on you guys a few months ago of which he's already donated so we can't call him out but however i've been a douchebag since then. I have worked in corporate IT for a long time and agreement with John's PCMag article from a few years ago big data is a marketing scam! I would write something like that. Nice

1:08:24 By some definitions of big data, we've already have a product called Teradata that has been around since the 80s. All the big companies use them and I bet most of the tech hornies have never heard of them! Anyway, keep up the good work. Can I have a shut-up already? It's science! The Alex Jones spider goats or babies in cows... Which is one of the greatest. Get out of my vagina. He has got a lot here. Ah jeez okay what else does he have? Get out of my vagina scream and don't eat me Hillary That's that's quite a quite a list. We try to keep it at three if at all possible, but yeah we'll do what he's got 700 from and he's from the Plain Illinois desk planes Anyway shut up already Science my god for 25 years they've been growing babies in cows get out of my vagina

1:09:26 Holy mackerel that was outrageous Especially after the complaining right? I think that touched it up Yeah, and there's too many bending you nailed it. Thank now we have Grant's Pass, I'm sorry Rancho Palos Verdes. Henry Clays? Clayes? Clays? C-L-A-E-Y-S? Clays? Clayse? Clayse? C-L-A-E-Y-S? And he said a simple note for $333.33 thanks and keep it up we'll give him a karma anyway Yeah absolutely You've got Karma Okay now i got Russ Williamson in Grant's Pass Oregon $333.33 He actually sent a check in

1:10:17 Yes, much to be appreciated. And let me put my reading glasses on I know it's pathetic Hello great purveyors of truth First of all, I want to say you two are doing our country and its citizens a great service Keep up the great work and thank you. And I have an F cancer for my father-in-law Edward who just lost a valiant fight against pancreatic cancer, some karma for the family to get through this great loss and a whip Obama's ass! And then he's got a birthday... He should be on the list... Is gonna be 60 today!

1:10:54 And he says 73 is KG7ZPF. Ah, 7 threes kilo 5 alpha Charlie Charlie and I might point out I have seven of the 13 colonies already on my QSO list Yeah This weekend I'll explain what that is this weekend Is a 13 colonies contest and you collect all thirteen of them there stay special event stations? And you get a contact if you get them all then you got a prize What might the prize be? Like a sticker. What is this going on now, 13 colonies you were referring to the 13 original colonies in United States Yeah and so they have these special event stations And you have seven you say? I yeah of the thirteen i've got seven already what seven do you have oh i don't have the list here but i have uh you know i'm i don't know well what's the tough one Delaware no i have i have delaware i have massachusetts i have maryland

1:11:56 Vermont's gotta be a tough one. I don't have Vermont. Or even worse would be New Hampshire because there are so many mountains you can get a signal on. I don't have New Hampshire yet, working on it. You'll never get to New Hampshire. Last but not least is Wesley Young in Jamestown, New York. I looked and looked and looked...I can't find anybody named Wesley Young in my email. If you have something to send us a note if you want something to say, put it on the subject line missing in action

1:12:40 And anyway, $300 from Jamestown New York and we'll give you a Karma. Yeah I don't have anything either We have received email from Wesley Clark in the past but i don't see anything here No Wesley Clark is not Wesley Young Oh Wesley Young? I'm sorry hold on If you look for Wesley Young you won't find him Wesley...Young? You're right! I had no idea how did that happen? I dunno he probably came as a company name or something I dunno how are we Okay Ah Karma has requested You've got karma. And that's our group for executive and well, no associate executive producers all executive producers which is typical of a TV show

CHAPTER 26 / 55 Discussion

Michael Dukakis, 1988 Convention Speech, George Costanza Comparison

John Dvorak compares 1988 Democratic nominee Michael Dukakis to the Seinfeld character George Costanza, noting similarities in their smirks and mannerisms. They play a clip of Dukakis's convention speech where he suggests neighbors should teach each other to read, which the hosts find absurd.

michael dukakis· 1988 election· george costanza· seinfeld· literacy

1:13:21 I want to thank them and everyone else who contributes. We talked about them in the second part of the show, and we want to remind you that we do have another show coming up next Thursday. It's a holiday. We're in middle of the holiday tomorrow is 4th of July nobody listens to these shows they ignore us but if you can... You're already drunk and I'm stoned so there ya go. Yeah there ya go. So if you can please help us. That's right! While your out there why don't propagate The Formula on The Fourth? Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up! Shut up! Slave... Alright now I've got a little entremont if you wanted something funny. Please about time This will be amusing this is um Can i guess? Yeah i guess Dukakis

1:14:21 No, I do want to talk about that. Dukakis is interesting there was a C-Span played over the weekend all this is another This was a killer for me for time killer yeah they played all the speeches of the, when you're elected at the convention and you come up and give your speech. They played all of them they well not all but most of them. And of course you watched all of them? I did! That's great. I watched Truman...I watched, oh Carrie is terrible. Uh-huh. I watch Dukakis, let's go with that this is Dukakis This is in the middle of his little speech

1:14:58 I want to say something first because i never noticed this when it ran and I think is because the Seinfeld show appeared after 1988. I'm not sure when it first started but I'm absolutely sure that George Is based on Dukakis? Yes. Dukakis is, well before you play...Dukakis is up there he's got this George smirk He's got except for the lack of a bald head he's got this smirk He's got that stupid look that look of I and you know I get something on everybody it was so annoying to watch Dukakis When you were familiar with The Seinfeld Show that it would just was unbelievable This is typical of what he had to say

1:15:55 Does he actually speak? Mis amigos, todos nos enriquecemos y ennoblecemos. My friends as president I'm going to be setting goals for our country not goals for our government working alone i mean goals for our people working together Working Together! I want businesses in this country to be wise enough and innovative enough to retrain their workers and retool their factories and help rebuild their communities

1:16:44 I want students and office workers and retired teachers to share with a neighbor the precious gift of literacy. Yeah, he...I agree the sound is George Costanza but the cadence is something different. I don't think that cadence... The cadences are more New England it's just wants to be Kennedy. But he's got this smirks in this little sly looks but if you listen to the last thing he suggested there first thing I said to myself Is literacy a real problem in this country so much that you should go to your next door neighbor and teach him to read? Yes, it is now. Hell yes! We are an illiterate country. Do you ever look at... No, you don't just look at face bag. Oh yeah we are becoming completely illiterate. This is 1988

CHAPTER 27 / 55 Discussion

Barry Goldwater, 1964 Convention, One World Government Rhetoric

A review of Barry Goldwater's 1964 acceptance speech reveals surprising rhetoric about an "Atlantic civilization" and a "mighty system" linking the Americas. The hosts contrast this globalist-sounding language with Goldwater's reputation as a hardline conservative and member of the John Birch Society.

barry goldwater· 1964 election· john birch society· atlantic civilization· new world order

1:17:32 There must be way before face bagging, but what he says is you should go to your next door neighbor and teach them to read. That's what he said! And then he was speaking in Spanish half the time and there was a bunch of signage that was propped up by the delegates and one of them was uh... Speaking English only is un-American. Oh yeah we've been through all that It's back it's just the same crap Well, Cockett's was just a outrageous loser. But since we're on this now that I ran into the Barry Goldwater one All right explain who Barry Goldwater is. Now Barry Goldwater was the right-wing nut that was running for president in 1964 He was Trump 1.0 you mean? The original Trump. When you listen to him

1:18:24 Not really, but he was the right wing guy. The John Birch Society was behind him and all the right-wingers...oh, right winger, right winger. Now John Birch Society we might as well say that as well. Oh yeah, go ahead. But do you know anything about it? Yeah, John Birch Society the original crackpot conspiracy theorist group. The John Birch Society which is run by a guy named Welch uh was a I don't know, you can call them conspiracy people but they're very traditional. A lot of their... Constitutionalist maybe we should say that? I don't even know if that was it. It's a very strange operation at the time but it was very patriotic pro-America and all the rest of it and they felt Reagan was actually I would say as a child of that thinking as it matured Barry Goldwater was the thinking itself at the moment

1:19:18 And so I was kind of stunned having, and kind of familiar with this during the era. In fact, I actually snuck into this convention it was in the Cow Palace in San Francisco, a 1964 convention and met a couple of interesting girls that pretended to be French and they were actually from Daly City. It was very annoying. Really? So did you speak French with them? I know they were long. Get back to the point. No, let's stick with Bonjour girls. Jim Appell is young clothes or girls. So so Barry Goldwater was the none dare call it treason guy wrote a couple of books he was a senator from Arizona

1:20:05 I always wanted to meet him because he's apparently an outstanding photographer and it seemed like if you go meet him and cajole him, you can get a free picture. That's how you collect art. So just reading from the book of knowledge, The John Birch Society in its own words is a conservative advocacy group supporting anti-communism and limited government so maybe more like Ron Paul perhaps? Well the anti-communism thing was a big deal during that era because we were still in the Cold War... Yeah, we had a bunch of commies running around yeah So I'm listening to this and i want to ask you a couple questions. Listen carefully what he has to say, it's not a short clip but it's not a long clip but there's just a piece of his acceptance speech that's what we're talking about. And I can see in the distant and yet recognizable future

1:20:54 the outlines of a world worthy of our dedication, our every risk, our every effort, our every sacrifice along the way. Yes? a world that will redeem the suffering of those who will be liberated from tyranny. I can see and I suggest that all thoughtful men must contemplate the flowering of an Atlantic civilization, the whole of Europe reunified and freed trading it openly across its borders communicating openly across the world

1:21:42 Did he say moonshine yeah, or moon shot John shot Is he just calling for new world order is that what I'm hearing him to say? Yeah It's a truly inspiring goal for all free men to set for themselves during the latter half of the 20th century. I can see, and all free men must thrill too, the advance of this Atlantic civilization joined by its great ocean highway to the United States. What a destiny!

1:22:33 destiny can be ours to stand as a great central pillar linking Europe, the Americas and the venerable and vital peoples in cultures of the Pacific. I can see a day when all the Americas, North and South will be linked in a mighty system. A system in which the errors and misunderstandings of the past will be submerged one by one in a rising tide of prosperity and interdependence We know that the misunderstandings of centuries are not to be wiped away in a day or wiped away in an hour

1:23:15 But we pledge, we pledge that human sympathy would our neighbors to the South call an attitude of simpatico. No less than enlightened self-interest will be our guide. I don't know, no wonder he didn't do it. He's talking about the EU one world government? Yes! How does this match with todays conservative movement? Not at all. That is really odd. I haven't heard that probably ever and when i listened to it was just jaw dropping

1:24:05 It's just opposite of what everyone has been talking about when they... Oh, Barry Goldwater is a nut. He was not talking about sovereignty. He's not talking about Americanism. He's not talking about nationalism. He's talking about one world government maybe saying we're gonna lead it which is kind of what... But this is the kinda thing you get from the Democrats! Well that just proves that it's all the same party. It's all the same people. Anyway, that was good. I like that. I like a little bit of history. Some little history is nice So speaking of either way, I should say something yes like those two clips that do caucus thing and the Goldwater thing That shows we could have been doing this show in 1988 or 1964 Yes And hand-delivered same and delivering hand delivering vinyl to everybody yeah would have been great Well, I guess the problem would be the distribution of the show would be an issue. Yeah my yes. Yes

CHAPTER 28 / 55 Discussion

Jean-Claude Juncker, Brexit Speech, Other Planets Comment

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker made a bizarre comment during a speech in French regarding Brexit, stating that "leaders of other planets" are worried about the future of the EU. The hosts debate whether he was drunk or if the word "planètes" was a slip of the tongue for "pays" (countries).

jean-claude juncker· european union· brexit· other planets· french language

1:25:02 And delivering 45s. Oh honey, my box of 45s came how long is the show this week? Now unfortunate well not fortunate unfortunately we're going to do a little lesson in French Jean-Claude Howie, how was your francais? Okay people this is a Junker the drunkard This is a Jean Claude Juncker speaking in front of European Parliament regarding Brexit. And I shall play this little ditty in French and we may have to replay it but I will certainly translate for you, here he is.

1:25:48 Your French may be too rusty. It's very, yeah. All I heard was it is raining in Aruba. Je veux entendre et écouter plusieurs des dirigeants d'autres planètes which means we must know that those who observe us from afar are worried. I have seen and heard and listened to several of the leaders of other planets they are very worried because they question themselves about the path the European Union will follow

1:26:39 Thus, we must reassure both Europeans and those who observe us from afar. That's what it sounds like he said! Yeah that is... I find it hard to believe that he's talking about other planets. Well yeah he is listen you can even hear him listening to the line... Je veux entendre et écouter plusieurs des dirigeants d'autres planètes. Ceux qui nous observent de loin sont inquiets. J'ai vu et entendu et écouté plusieurs He's really saying it John. He is really saying it to a planet what I'd have second meaning Going in my French English dictionary, okay now I would love to say ah Every of course the leaders of the world know exactly all about the off-world leaders But I think he was just drunk

1:27:37 Well, that's always a possibility. Now this is... Maybe he was looking through his telescope I have no idea! I think it's one of the funniest things he has ever said. Des autres planètes He said other planets leaders of other planets Dirigeants d'autres planetes It's as clear as day. I can see you're underwhelmed but i thought it was quite interesting Because I just think it was like some One of those words that has another meaning. I don't believe so, he was the whole structure... He said other planet there's no question about that Yeah and that is le dirigeant des autres planetes The directors the leaders of other planets Maybe he meant to say pays possibly but it was drunk you know pay planet whatever keeps coming up as planet

1:28:40 But maybe he meant Pai, as in other countries? Other lands? Oh you think he may have slipped the word. Possibly! Well, because he is saying those who observe us from afar are worried and it could be other leaders of other places. Yeah well our planet is afar! I know this guy has no business running anything as far as I'm concerned and nor does the woman who we accurately predicted would be running hard-and-heavy for the Cameron spot in the United Kingdom God hope she doesn't get that Oh yes Theresa May everybody I've invited you here today

CHAPTER 29 / 55 Discussion

Theresa May, Conservative Party Leadership, Article 50 Stalling

Theresa May officially announced her candidacy for leader of the Conservative Party and Prime Minister. While she stated "Brexit means Brexit," she also indicated there would be no decision to invoke Article 50 until a negotiating strategy is clear, which the hosts interpret as a stalling tactic.

theresa may· brexit· article 50· conservative party· united kingdom

1:29:21 to announce my candidacy to become leader of the Conservative Party and Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. And I do so for three clear reasons. Okay... First, following last week's referendum our country needs strong proven leadership to steer us through this period of economic and political uncertainty and negotiate the best possible terms as we leave the European Union Second, we need leadership that can unite our party and our country. With the Labour Party tearing itself to pieces and divisive nationalists in Scotland and Wales it is nothing less than the patriotic duty of our party to unite and govern in the best interests of the whole country

1:30:09 And third, we need a bold new positive vision for the future of our country. A vision of a country that works not for privileged few but every one of us. Brexit means Brexit. The campaign was fought, the vote was held, turnout was high and public gave their verdict There must be no attempts to remain inside the EU, no attempts to rejoin it through the back door and no second referendum. There should be no general election until 2020. Sorry little remix. Should be a normal autumn statement held in the normal way at the normal time and no emergency budget

1:31:01 And there should be no decision to invoke Article 50 until the British negotiating strategy is agreed and clear. I just love English Parliament. Do you think that this failure to invoke article 50... Yes They're not going to do it. I don't think so either. It's just a stalling tactic! Yeah, yeah well if you of course we had the big demonstration over the weekend in London uh i think 50 000 people rallying against the Brexit vote um all of them wearing like European stuff and with signage that is professional signs and there was a professional guy there The leader of all things...I can't believe the Brits listen they should

CHAPTER 30 / 55 Discussion

Bob Geldof, London Anti-Brexit Protests, NHS Concerns

Political activist Bob Geldof led a rally of 50,000 people in London protesting the Brexit vote. Protesters expressed fears that leaving the EU would lead to a collapse of the National Health Service (NHS) due to the loss of freedom of movement for European medical staff.

bob geldof· brexit· london· nhs· freedom of movement

1:31:50 You want someone drawn and corded, it should be that guy. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah your buddy. Thousands of people have rallied through London to protest against Britain's decision to leave the European Union Some were draped in EU flags while others waved banners backing the bloc France, London or further afield They all had one thing in common, mutual shock over the result of the Brexit vote. All the disgusting behaviour that's been going on throughout the country with racism and xenophobia it's just unacceptable You know they just want to show the nation that we're not giving up on the EU

1:32:29 We need the EU. The NHS needs the EU, we would have no staffing wherever I work." That's really interesting what she is saying there because and what i hear everybody saying who was against Brexit is, well no freedom of movement. No freedom of movement! What she's saying is if there was a Brexit there'd be no freedom of movement and therefore we would have no nurses, no general practitioners, the national health system would disintegrate overnight. HS needs to EU. We would have no staffing wherever I work down in South London if it wasn't for a free movement of people. 10% of British university funding comes from the European Union and I don't think it's going to be replaced by our austerity government so I think this is gonna do terrible things to British science, British technology, British research...

1:33:20 The march ended peacefully with a rally outside parliament, where political activist and musician Sir Bob Geldof urged young people not to give up the fight. Vented into the atmosphere get out on the streets with your friends in the colleges Get active properly active and go and meet the people who voted to get out and understand why they voted out And try and persuade them that maybe it was a wrong decision An estimated 50,000 people took part in the demonstration. I don't know Bob Geldof what a dick He's a dick then he's a shill and they hire him but somehow

1:34:12 I don't know if it works, but there's this belief that Bob can do it all. He was so responsible for USA for Africa We are the world! All that money went to warlords he is so good and he's Irish So you know he has a whole other issue going on with the Brexit Mimi, both of us we have a couple friends in Cornwall who we visit once in awhile And they're freaked because of this NHS thing. Totally, oh we're all gonna die there no we're not gonna have any doctors, not gonna have any nurses and I can't have anybody working here anymore what are we going to do? Right. No matter what you do you can't convince them otherwise it's not possible.

CHAPTER 31 / 55 Discussion

British Identity, EU Welfare State Perception, Freedom of Movement

The hosts discuss the psychological state of anti-Brexit protesters who seem to "hate being British" and prefer a European identity. They analyze the common complaint about losing the ability to work abroad, noting that people had the ability to move and work in Europe long before the EU existed.

brexit· british identity· passports· immigration· education system

1:35:06 What was new to me was because there's no freedom of movement for people, which of course even before the EU you could get in and now you could work. It's just it's not going to be set in stone. You need a new agreement is not the end of the world but it seems highly unlikely that just there's no medical professionals they don't train them in the UK and then... That's what it seems like! Yeah and then Does this, you know...we need EU for the money for national health system? I don't want to...is the EU paying for a portion of that?" I get the impression from the guys who wanna stay that or at least they give the impression that apparently Britain is broke and useless. They can't produce their own anybody that can do any of this kind of work. They're apparently have no money whatsoever

1:35:59 And they're completely dependent. They're like a welfare state in the EU itself, even though the world's fifth biggest economy and the second biggest in the EU for some reason I guess are running everything at a loss. I don't have no idea it makes no sense Yeah, it's baffling to me. But that is the main thing... The vote was xenophobes and racists. We got old white xenophobes and racists but really the big problem is the loss of freedom of movement of people somehow everyone thinks that they'll not be able to move anywhere or go anywhere in Europe How did they get this impression?

1:36:45 I don't know, but you've seen the emails we get. It's all that whenever someone is saying hey you know iIdon't like this Brexit it's all about... I won't be able to move to a European country and work there! But what is the point then? You want to leave?! You actually want to Brexit!! You just don't want to have... In the real way yeah you just don't want to have to prove that you're a freelance freeloader or whatever. Yeah you'll have to prove to that country... Almost every letter is says something like that. I want to do this, and I can't do it now which is not...I don't see that part of it you get a passport yeah I don't see the problem you gotta have a passport anyway if you have to do an exit from Britain you have to go through passport control there's no passport control its not like other countries I dunno..it feels very strange that seems to be the main driver And then when you see these

1:37:45 demonstrations like the one you're talking about. It's almost people, they hate being British. That's what it feels like? It's like they hate being British and they like the idea of being European and they think it's fantastic! I don't know this is again some function of the educational system and I don't know who where how would happen how began but there's a kind of dislike propagandized dislike of being British. In fact, I got a nasty note from somebody...I should dig it up but you probably can find it criticizing me for saying

CHAPTER 32 / 55 Discussion

EU Pension Legislation, Occupational Retirement Directive, Single Market

The European Parliament is proposing legislation to take over the governance and risk management of occupational pensions. With the UK and Netherlands holding the vast majority of these assets, the hosts argue this is a move to centralize and potentially tap into private pension funds to stabilize the single market.

pensions· european union· retirement· united kingdom· netherlands

1:38:25 Well, this is an interesting part of British history. He said, ah, British history and went on and on blasting me saying that everybody's British just some anti-British screed. And it was like British, British or something about there's something going on in its very... It's embedded in the society. Well what I believe the Brits should take a look at then be very happy about this because this is a big deal in the Netherlands for sure, but it's not getting the exposure it should. And this is the European Parliament's proposed legislation for retirement and for pensions and they're going to take over

1:39:12 or they're trying to take over the pensions. Well, here I read from this occupational pensions revision of the institutions for occupational retirement because of course pension... The thing with Buda is great about pension is you have this big pot of money and And governments like to steal that. So our social security is being stolen. Right, by law the social security thing should be funded always 100% and not accessible for the general fund you can't take money borrow I'm just borrowing it i'll bring it back tomorrow you can't do that but they've done it

1:39:51 Yes, and in the EU now it's going to be institutional. So here it is... In 2014 the European Commission proposed a revision of the existing institutions for occupational retirement provision directive 2003 which covers certain occupational pension savings these are overwhelmingly in the United Kingdom at 55.9% of the assets and the Netherlands here's the scary one at 30.7%. So these are woefully underfunded The proposed revision aims to improve the governance, risk management, transparency and information provisions of these pensions. And help increase cross-border IORP activity strengthening the single market." So they would like now they're coming for your pension people and Brits you should be very happy you're not a part of that shit

1:40:45 It's really outrageous. The Dutch are just finally catching on to this because it was kept very quiet in Parliament? Just take a look at Greece! Yeah, exactly. That is where this all leads. Now, I was thinking about these bureaucrats and they're making all these rules and regulations constantly like a machine just cranking this stuff out. And I kind of figured out what the rationale is which is we've got to have...and that's what they talked about the French losing their 35-hour work week You know, if you're gonna be all in the same one single giant state it has to be kind of the same from country to country so there's no competition issues. You have to have...you have the same rules. So I had the same rules as you have. Say I'm French and your Belgian and I have to have the same rules for making wine that you have.

1:41:41 I have to say, you have the same rules for making cheese that the Dutch have. So nobody has an advantage." That's what everybody wants. Everyone wants to be a blob of grey goo equal to everybody else and it's... I don't think that, but that's what people want It's a sickness! No, I think a lot of people have been Well, yeah the people doing the uh The protesting? The demonstrations in London Yes I'm sure they are Yeah let us all be the same and you know hold hands and sing songs Oh no, I'll tell ya, it gets even worse Because it's rife, it's all over. Everything is we have to be equal and fair to everybody and one of my major gripes about this political correct naming stuff was brought up in the Huffington Post. Let me see they had an interview with transgender fashion designer Adrienne Wu

CHAPTER 33 / 55 Discussion

LGBTQQIAAP Acronym, Gender Non-Conforming, Adrienne Wu

Fashion designer Adrienne Wu argues in a Huffington Post interview that the LGBT acronym is outdated and should be replaced by "LGBTQQIAAP." The new acronym is intended to include gender non-conforming and non-binary individuals who have historically been left out of the discussion.

adrienne wu· lgbt· huffington post· gender identity· acronyms

1:40:45 It's really outrageous. The Dutch are just finally catching on to this because it was kept very quiet in Parliament? Just take a look at Greece! Yeah, exactly. That is where this all leads. Now, I was thinking about these bureaucrats and they're making all these rules and regulations constantly like a machine just cranking this stuff out. And I kind of figured out what the rationale is which is we've got to have...and that's what they talked about the French losing their 35-hour work week You know, if you're gonna be all in the same one single giant state it has to be kind of the same from country to country so there's no competition issues. You have to have...you have the same rules. So I had the same rules as you have. Say I'm French and your Belgian and I have to have the same rules for making wine that you have.

1:41:41 I have to say, you have the same rules for making cheese that the Dutch have. So nobody has an advantage." That's what everybody wants. Everyone wants to be a blob of grey goo equal to everybody else and it's... I don't think that, but that's what people want It's a sickness! No, I think a lot of people have been Well, yeah the people doing the uh The protesting? The demonstrations in London Yes I'm sure they are Yeah let us all be the same and you know hold hands and sing songs Oh no, I'll tell ya, it gets even worse Because it's rife, it's all over. Everything is we have to be equal and fair to everybody and one of my major gripes about this political correct naming stuff was brought up in the Huffington Post. Let me see they had an interview with transgender fashion designer Adrienne Wu

1:42:35 Who says the gay rights acronym LGBT or Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender is not really politically correct anymore? No. I heard this too! Yeah you know why gender non-conforming people have been left out of the discussion for a very long time simply because people didn't know they could be non binary until now but the reality is that gender as a spectrum and male and female are not the only gender identity so I believe that my acronym is still the best one and should be adopted by the United Nations, and the Federation of Planets possibly. Which is LGBTQQIAAP it covers everybody

CHAPTER 34 / 55 Discussion

Transgender Military Service, Ashton Carter, John McCain

Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter announced that transgender individuals are now welcome to serve openly in the US military. Senator John McCain, Chairman of the Armed Services Committee, expressed frustration that he was not briefed beforehand and plans to hold hearings regarding the fiscal costs of the policy change.

ashton carter· john mccain· transgender· us military· pentagon

1:43:20 I think we should start a website and maybe collect some money. How do, I like the idea how exactly do we collect the money? Well you know just put up a tip jar people flock to it. And this was also something that at least A transgender came up this past week as we got the official word from Ashton Carter, Secretary of Defense. Transgenders now welcome in the United States military with the upper end to their range of estimates of around 7000 and the active component and 4000 in the reserves. That's a lot relatively few number. We're talking about talented and trained Americans who are serving their country with honor and distinction

1:44:04 We invest hundreds of thousands of dollars to train and develop each individual. And we want to take the opportunity to retain people whose talent we've invested in, and who have proven themselves." The reality is that we have transgender service members serving in uniform today. I have a responsibility to them and their commanders to provide them both with clearer and more consistent guidance than is provided by current policies. Also, right now most of our transgender service members must go outside the military medical system in order to obtain medical care that is judged by doctors to be necessary and they have to pay for it out their own pockets This is inconsistent with our promise to all our troops that we will take care of them and pay for necessary medical treatment

1:44:52 Now, I like this. I think it's very good. A ball for everyone being eligible to serve in our military if you want to do that or if that's the only way you can get rid of your student loan because that seems to be a nice little scam that set up But man, in my lifetime we've gone from Clinger on MASH to this. I mean that's mind-boggling when you think about it! You remember Clinger? That must have dawned on you sometime last night. It did as i'm watching this clip and thinking, Remember Clinger who was trying to go... what was it section 8 he was trying to get kicked out for dressing like a woman. And even then the US military was fair

1:45:34 Yeah, they just ignored him. It was also it was funny that of course you couldn't I doubt these are even in reruns? I don't think you can have this on television anymore too offensive way too offensive John McCain is a little irked about this not for the reasons You think unlike any other administration that I've been associated with we receive no heads up by having just to be the chairman the Armed Services Committee and You know, it's customary all the years I've been on it to give members particularly the chairman a briefing and say this is what we want to do as far as policy changes are concerned or other events. And this administration doesn't do that so I just heard about when you have. It's very hard for me right now to make a judgment

1:46:20 I will be calling up the chiefs of the services, those men in uniform who are the heads of the military and asking their views including the costs of implementing. I'm talking about the fiscal cost of implementing some of these changes so... And we'll be having hearings So it's hard for me to make- I can't wait for these hearings You know were gonna have some dynamite transgendered folks It's gonna be great. I can just wait to see John McCain's face is like... Don't think about a waste of money, you know? They don't tell McCain anything because even though he said they had it, he should be told in advance but he wasn't so now okay He's gonna pull one of these stunts where you say okay We're gonna have a hearing You guys got nothing better to do than sit around and sit at the table all day instead of doing some other stuff Which is just paperwork but still

1:47:15 Maybe take a few days, you don't know. And okay so they're gonna have to sit there and then they're gonna be grilled and McCain who's old school is not happy you can tell and he's gonna make their lives miserable. Yeah that is actually a problem this guy should be yeah everyone should be in well it's a funny bit So let's play... It's sad is what it is I want to play this kind of rundown on the Clinton email Lynch story as it ran on CBS.

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Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch, Tarmac Meeting, Phoenix Incident

A private 30-minute meeting between Bill Clinton and Attorney General Loretta Lynch on a tarmac in Phoenix has sparked widespread controversy. While both parties claim they only discussed grandchildren and golf, the hosts and critics point out the massive conflict of interest given the ongoing FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton.

bill clinton· loretta lynch· phoenix· fbi· tarmac meeting

1:48:04 And Donald Trump with some sharp words of his own tonight calling this proof that his opponent cannot be trusted. ABC's David Wright on the campaign trail for us tonight Attorney General Loretta Lynch today admitted her private meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac in Phoenix was a mistake. I certainly wouldn't do it again. Lynch and Clinton both insist that 20-minute or so meeting Monday was just a friendly chat about golf and grandchildren while their planes happened to be parked near each other But it seems like you know he's talking about golf and grandchildren, I love my grandchildren so much But if I talk about him for more than nine or ten seconds, you know what do we... Today in Denver Donald Trump... He reminds me a bit of you. I love my grandchildren! I know most of their names. ...seconds, you know what are we...

1:48:56 Today in Denver, Donald Trump mocked the idea. They were so busy talking about grandkids that Hillary Clinton's emails never came up! I love that one, I love that one, and look at them beautiful...I love these kids. After that what are you gonna say? Right?! As the nation stopped law enforcement officer Lynch has final say over the outcome of the FBI probe ABC News has learned an FBI interview with Clinton could take place within days. In some ways, she owes her Justice Department career to Bill Clinton. He appointed her as a U.S. attorney back in the 90s all of which she now admits contributes to a perception of bias

1:49:37 The meeting that I had is now casting a shadow. It's something that I take seriously and deeply and painfully. Lynch now says once and for all she'll follow whatever recommendations are made by the lawyers and agents investigating this case, while Trump says Bill Clinton has managed to make his wife's email problem worse. He opened up a Pandora's box and it shows what's going on and it shows what's happening with our laws and with our government. So far, no comment from Secretary Clinton or her campaign about that. Yeah. I have three quick clips I want to play before you get into this, this is just an overview of how it was... How this meeting was reported on first by Andrea Mitchell CNN As though there weren't enough conspiracy theories out there already He did say hello to Loretta Lynch met with her for about 30 minutes She said it was completely social they talked about grandchildren But this has led to a lot of conspiracy theories that even before Hillary Clinton has been interviewed By the FBI to our knowledge

1:50:39 that somehow this is Bill Clinton talking to Loretta Lynch about clearing Hillary Clinton of the email investigation. It does, I guess fuels a conspiracy theorist and shows that it wasn't smart of either them to have had a private meeting. Part of what you're hearing from Republicans is that this was in some way arranged beforehand. happened to be at the same tarmac, at the same time. It's protocol for former President Clinton to greet someone like this and say hello and as you say they talked about grandkids. It's protocol John I'm sorry. Hold on a second. Andre and the other one... Do we have tape?

1:51:18 Oh, somebody record this so we know that's what they talked about? Well hold on a second I have the answer for you. She as matter of fact landed on time he and his entourage were running late according to my sources they then make the decision they meaning the president's team former president's team They wait for her to land. She arrives, some people step off of her plane the former president steps into her plane they then speak for 30 minutes privately the FBI there on the tarmac instructing everybody around no photos, no pictures, no cell phones He then gets off the plane gets on his own plane he departs she continues on with her planned visit

1:51:56 Why was the president in Phoenix? Do we know to be honest with you We have no idea and the Attorney General as a matter of fact She said they talked about him playing golf at this very moment as I'm talking to you. I've reached out to several sources those with intimate knowledge of his Movements because they work with these dignitaries when they come into Phoenix not one so far has said that he played golf I'm not saying that he didn't play golf. I'm just saying I have yet. You don't know what he was doing Why is it this is the he may have gotten it wrong. This report is the guy who broke the story in Phoenix locally, he may have gotten it wrong maybe he meant to say Secret Service but what was the FBI doing there saying no photos? No photos that's troubling. Well, it's also troubling the reporting in general. He's one group says he was on the tarmac

1:52:49 Bumped into her coincidentally yes, and it's protocol John this protocol. Yeah, and if some yeah now that's a new one I did never heard that protocol Protocol but now he went and snuck into the other plane Yeah And then they had a half-hour meeting come on here's Gail, and it's a conspiracy theory like that What conspiracy she said three times? It fuels conspiracy theory? She's just trying to kind of cover Cover. Yes, cover.

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Media Coverage of Clinton-Lynch Meeting, Social Guy Narrative

Mainstream media outlets like Bloomberg and the Today Show are framing the Clinton-Lynch meeting as a simple "optics" error caused by Bill Clinton being a "social guy." The hosts dismiss this narrative, suggesting the meeting was a calculated move that may have actually been intended to sabotage Hillary Clinton's campaign.

bill clinton· loretta lynch· mark halperin· bloomberg· media optics

1:53:35 It might be true, but why have the meeting at all? She's investigating his wife. It sounds like a house of cards scene but no it was meant to be a clandestine meeting I'm quite convinced Clint Bill Clinton flew there just to bump into her And we wouldn't have known about it if the local media because the guy who was on O'Reilly who he heard earlier He was the one that was getting calls from his sources at the airport Hey, but you know they're in the hangar. You know this is this happened I get all kinds of calls when stuff happens like that and you know the aviation community is tight Uh, let's see. Today show they got to Halpern from Bloomberg on the talk about it. Marked to the optics of this. The Clintons know better than anyone else what this, uh, the appearance in this divisive world we live in why this error? Why this unnecessary meeting? The most obvious explanation and probably the right one is Bill Clinton as a really social guy. Right? And we've all seen situations where famous people on the tarmac, the two planes, it's kind of fun. Hey, let's go over and visit

1:54:33 Someone, Bill Clinton, Loretta Lynch or someone who worked for them standing there should have said this is the wrong time for a social meeting. Uh yeah He's a really social guy though, you know? So... Yeah. That would be that would have happened if it wasn't bull crap and was a real meeting. It wasn't a social meeting so nobody you know they just said okay there is nobody around go over sneak over there and nobody says it's the wrong time for social meetings because it wasn't a social meeting now and when Loretta Lynch says oh I wouldn't have done that I won't do that again or I wouldn't had done that she doesn't have to do it she already made the deal whatever the deal what's now Now I'm thinking this all of those kinds dimensions to this

1:55:13 besides your original thesis, which I like. He offered her SCOTUS. Right and she would not...and if she got that she would not be approved by the Senate because they would point to this and so she...and they could just not offer her SCOTUS and what's she gonna do? Say well i had a meeting with Bill and he promised me! She screwed no matter what happens. I think she's dumb. Yes. I came to that conclusion listening to her. She said she's a dummy And she's gotten suckered into this. She's the one who shouldn't have had the meeting if she had any gumption and any backbone, but no, she went along with this. Clinton himself may have been doing this to screw up Hillary's campaign! So she won't kill him? Right so she won't kill him he's gonna stay away from her that's for sure. He can stay on the jet, he's sleeping on the jet now

1:56:07 So there's a lot of possibilities here that are not being explored by anybody and the mainstream media with this bullcrap, oh they talked about their kids. I think Trump is right! And then... I don't know anybody that talks about their kids more than a minute. And then two days later Hillary Clinton is brought in and interviewed by FBI And just hearing Trump, because we know Trump is on the FBI side. We know he and Comey are buddies because Trump gave Comey a total pass on Orlando by saying they had a bad day. They had a bad day. The FBI had a bad day but the general consensus is no indictment will never happen it's not going to occur

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Loretta Lynch, FBI Recommendations, Career Agents Rhetoric

Attorney General Loretta Lynch stated at the Aspen Ideas Festival that she "fully expects" to accept the recommendations of career FBI agents regarding the Clinton email investigation. The hosts analyze her repetitive use of the word "career" and speculate that no criminal indictment will be filed.

loretta lynch· fbi· james comey· department of justice· indictment

1:56:49 They're very sure of it, just like Brexit really. Well there's that one... in fact there was a big scandal going on I've noticed it and retweeted it I believe about CNN the Clinton News Network they seem to have the inside track on this and nobody can figure out why or how What do you mean by inside track? They've already announced that they're going to drop the charges against Clinton. Today's and this morning, somebody came out and said they're not gonna do this or not gonna do that and it's over People, what? Huh? Whoa. How did this where'd this come from nobody said anything is why CNN all over it like that in fact here's Lynch from the Aspen festival I think the issue is again what is my role and how that matter is going to be resolved and so let me be clear please on how that is gonna be resolved I've gotten back question a lot also overtime we usually don't go into those deliberations but I do think its important people see what that process is like

1:57:51 As I've always indicated, the matter is being handled by career agents and investigators with the Department of Justice. They have had it since the beginning. Which predates your tenure as Attorney General? It predates my tenure as Attorney General in this same team and they are acting independently. They follow the law. They follow the facts That team will make findings, that is to say they will come up with a chronology of what happened. The factual scenario they will make recommendations as to how to resolve what those facts lead too. Those the recommendations will be reviewed by career supervisors in the Department of Justice and in the FBI and by the FBI director

1:58:30 Uh, and then as is the common process they what is the point of her repeating career career? Career agents career by career this what is the point of saying interesting Maybe she's saying you may not have a career if you mess it up. Is that is that the messaging here I keep saying career career career Justice and in the FBI, and by the FBI director. And then as is the common process they present it to me and I fully expect to accept their recommendations. Now what's interesting here is- I fully expect? Yeah, expec... that's uh huh. Talk about a weasel word! I fully expect?! I fully expect to. Now what's interesting here is you say, you fully expect to accept the recommendations. One thing people were saying this morning when the news broke was that you were quote recusing yourself from having any kind of role in the final determination. Is that the case? Is that what your saying? Well a recusal would mean that I wouldn't even be briefed on what the findings were or what the actions going forward would be.

1:59:30 And while I don't have a role in those findings, in coming up with those findings or making those recommendations as to how to go forward. I'll be briefed on it and I will be accepting their recommendations." Oh okay she said that she will be accepting their recommendations doesn't mean I'm going to act on them but you'll accept them Hmm. Well, what do you think? What do you think? Do you think that douchebag is what I think well there's that But do you think that she'll get off you think there will be no indictment It'll just pass on by well. I think it should be some kind of reprimand something There'll be something but no criminal indictment or anything of the sort I don't think I'd I'd be with you on this yeah Yeah, kind of sad well poor bill

CHAPTER 38 / 55 Discussion

Tim Kaine, Vice Presidential Vetting, Gift Disclosures

Virginia Senator Tim Kaine is highlighted as a top contender for Hillary Clinton's running mate, though reports have surfaced regarding $160,000 in legal gifts he received as governor. The hosts suggest the Clinton campaign may be leaking this information themselves as part of a vetting process.

tim kaine· hillary clinton· vice president· virginia· disclosures

2:00:21 It's a little, yeah. Otherwise it will look... I think it might look unfair trying to rig the election like the way the NBA rigged the finals of the NBA Finals they take that one guy out they need and there was this news story going around about a possible Hillary vice presidential contender Was this guy's name kind Kane something or other you need to talk Tim Kaine Tim we need to talk about this I got the report. Let's see if it helps our conversation The presidential veep stakes are gearing up and today two prospective running mates are making some news. Not all but good on the Democratic side Politico reported today that Virginia Senator Tim Kaine a leading contender to become Hillary Clinton's running mate quote reported more than 160,000 dollars in gifts from 2001 to 2009 mostly for travel to and from political events and conferences according to disclosures compiled by the Virginia

2:01:18 public access project. Anyway, the givers included political supporters and drug company that soon after bought a facility in Virginia and Dominion the state's largest provider of electricity well according to this report Senator Kaine also received an $18 000 Caribbean vacation but fifty five hundred dollars in clothes on a trip to watch George Mason University playing NCAA basketball final four all the gifts were legal under Virginia laws and unlike his successor, former Virginia governor Bob McDonald all gifts to Cain were properly disclosed publicly on paper. Oh man! He's out I'm gonna get to the point where... That by the way is that is how the Clintons vet people they find something out about you throw it out there oh he didn't survive oh well sorry I don't know who she's gonna pick but I think I am kind of leaning toward Joni Ernst for Trump

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Joni Ernst, Donald Trump VP Speculation, Image Strategy

John Dvorak predicts that Donald Trump might choose Iowa Senator Joni Ernst as his running mate. He argues that as a female veteran who "knows how to shoot guns," she fits the "beautiful people" image Trump prefers and provides a sharp contrast to Hillary Clinton.

joni ernst· donald trump· vice president· iowa· veteran

2:02:12 Joni Ernst. Yeah, Joni Ernst is the superstar of the future. Oh let me take a look... Have we talked about her before? Yeah I mentioned her once in my interview. Oh yeah! She's okay and i'll tell you why I think this now They're talking about all kinds of other people that are gonna maybe be the guy and they're all it's like Mike Pence from Indiana who is just a douchebag. He reeks of it. Joni Ernst, I was thinking about what who would Trump pick that would work? Joni Ernst as a woman so that we kind of balance... She's a veteran

2:02:49 She's a tough chick, knows how to shoot guns. She was a veteran which Hillary never was a veteran and Joni Ernst I've heard her speak Which is the mistake I made with this creature You know, who's not a bad person. It's just that she is so annoying I can't... you know what her name from Alaska? Do we have any audio of Joni Ernst do we have any? I don't! I'll dick some up but... Good name it's good name. I like the name Ernst. Trump-Ernst would be kind of nice little bumper sticker Now here is my thinking is... Trump could be Don John Donald and Joni

2:03:38 You mean as one of those little Hollywood? Yeah, just try it. Hmm Dodd the Joanie Joanie Okay Here's what my thinking is Trump likes this if you look at Trump when he does his real thing He surrounds himself with his it's got is one beautiful gorgeous daughter on the one side as a mini It's a beaut. It's a beautiful people thing yeah, Joni fits right into that that image Not for any other reason I mean she may be great in all kinds of different ways But the image is way up there especially being compared to two old grandmas Yeah The fashionist

2:04:18 You put those two up, they're just like two old biddies up there. I think first of all your pick is great! I don't know if she'll be the pick but she is All-American... Yeah let me see what's her family status? Let's see... She's married. Hey she gotta have kids let me say where's your personal personal personal wow you got a long list of stuff here personal life Listen, Iowa with her husband and retired command sergeant major then their daughter Libby. And she has oh she is to know Gail her husband's name is Gail just to make it crazier that's not a great name for a guy you know? No. Gale

2:05:05 Gail he has two daughters from a previous marriage on if they live with them, okay? So this she's accepting of that sort of thing yes. That's perfect yeah and it's a modern family and She's got everything going on and she's got that Trump entourage look. I agree, that's a good one! Now is this being rumored anywhere? Are people talking about it? She's on the list but nobody is talking about from this perspective they don't... People..I don't know what these analysts are thinking but they just don't think in these terms and you have to remember of all things I'm good at on this show This is one other things I am really good at. I picked McCain when he was way down

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Elizabeth Warren, Consumer Protection, Robo-Call Frustrations

The hosts criticize Senator Elizabeth Warren for being a "big talker" who has failed to stop the plague of automated robo-calls. They share personal anecdotes about being harassed by "Rachel from Cardholder Services" and the futility of the "Do Not Call" list.

elizabeth warren· consumer protection· robo-calls· telemarketing· fbi

2:05:48 I picked McCain when he was way down, and wasn't going to win. I definitely called... Well we're still hopeful for Elizabeth Warren. This has been your two-year strategy so we're still thinking it could happen. Yeah well I'm not abandoning her because she's a screecher. She's horrible but she is very appealing to the Democrats and my wife likes her. She never hurt She just likes the look? No, she likes her polish. She has these policies...she's a big talker! Okay. She's the one who says you know Rachel calls you know on the machine on the robo-calls we're gonna put a stop to it It was like years ago she hasn't done anything I still get calls from Rachel and what does it take to stop these calls can't the FBI track down of the boiler room where they're making these calls or where their robots are yeah there's no one manning the ship there's no one cares

2:06:45 These days they just call. This is a call for Adam Curry if you want to be on the do not call list, press one yeah now I'm already sure but I'm already on it does exist. I got another robo call from the interactive robot. I don't know if I talked about the mail version of this thing, and it was pretty good but I've been getting more calls now I'm getting these Rachel calls the old-fashioned calls to buy my credit card and only got a few seconds left to fix it. And now when I push one because I always push one then I harassed the guy

2:07:26 They say, your caller number 11 and they actually hit your caller number 10. Your caller number 9. And it's like ten minutes of waiting to... But that's very smart! That way they know you're invested and they know to route through someone who can close the deal I don't what the point of that trick is but whatever it is I always want to go all away so if Say something stupid to the guy man, but I when it gets to four or five right? I just can't take it anymore and I hang up so I don't know anyway. That's that's Elizabeth Warren She's a big talker yeah, she's a big consumer this consumer of that and she does nothing She's just done. She said do nothing. He has Tourette's odd

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Political Email Marketing, Chip In Phrase, Mailing Lists

The hosts analyze the identical language used in fundraising emails from the Clinton, Trump, and Sanders campaigns, specifically the phrase "chip in." They conclude that all major political campaigns are likely using the same marketing firm and mailing list management company.

hillary clinton· donald trump· email marketing· chip in· bernie sanders

2:08:16 There are two things, I wrote this down and wanted to discuss this. Of course there's a couple of things that happened One the Hillary campaign emails whoever subscribed me as Mimi has now changed me to Bill. I don't know why but now i'm getting Hey Bill I know it's and there was apparently, there was a... Did you unsubscribe from Mimi or is this the same mailing? No. It's the same mailing. I'm just getting it to Bob instead of Mimi. Bill, bill, bill, bill. You're getting two of them of the same exact mailing? She sends way too many out! I'm not getting two of them. Mimi has gone. It's only Bill. What happened to Mimi? Good question.

2:08:59 But, here's something we discussed after the show and I wrote it down. So I get the emails from Hillary of course, the emails from Trump... And Trump noticed this because it is something that I really despise about the Clinton e-mails He now uses the same language by saying Hey Adam! My name is Adam there Won't you chip in? to help chip in. Now this is the same... You already complained about this? No, we talked about it after the show that's why I'm bringing it up. Oh really? I wrote it down on my pad to talk about it. That's right! We said what were going to talk about but this is the problem by how I mentioned this to the audience This is the reason free interviews and rehearsals and all these things don't work because you..I as I listen to Adam I'm thinking with you're talking about this. We already talked about this yes. Yeah glad you wrote it down go on

2:09:52 I definitely have mentioned previously that the Clinton emails with this chip in bit, it's like saying don't support the podcast. Just tip us you know? It's chip in! It cheapens everything yeah. I looked at the advertising copy which is what that sales letter is... Yeah. ...it's very- it's not completely amateurish but it's close to it both the Clintons they're all over these and as we talked about after the show It's obvious that the company that holds these mailing lists is one company. It's a single entity and they're doing, because they were doing Bernie's same thing. Also chip in? Chip in? I don't remember the chip-in. That was your pet peeve but I do remember the layouts at stupid red box it says you know click here. Chip In!

2:10:42 It's one company, I don't know which company it is. I think I can figure it out. They've got all these mailing lists or maybe they're just part of the marketing department and they don't own the mailing list but its the same group doing letters for all these guys and I'm reading these letters Can Trump find a direct marketing operation that can actually write a good letter? These letters are mediocre! Yeah, I agree And now their just offensive Chip in oh and the worst part is that Jay mentioned this to me She's on these mailing lists, and she says I can't take it anymore. There's too many Hillary sending me four emails a day And then we had the visit Hamilton the musical with Hilary and That particular entry form was bought able and thank you whoever entered me 300 times Thank You very funny

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Media Pander Packages, Native Ads, Convention Sponsorships

Major publications like The Hill, The Economist, and Politico are selling "turnkey" sponsorship packages for the political conventions. For prices up to $200,000, corporations and think tanks can buy moderated luncheons, custom videos, and access to editorial staff, which the hosts argue completely compromises their journalistic integrity.

politico· the economist· the hill· native advertising· dnc· rnc

2:11:36 I just kept getting emails, Bill you're registered. Bill you're registered! Well you have a better shot at it then. Yeah go see Hamilton with Hillary. And then I just wanted to throw this out because it's a fun little fact, you know as we look at todays media. And i would say that in this race Politico, The Atlantic, thehill.com these are all...the Economist, let's put them in there These are all publications that have

2:12:16 But I'll say some form of standing, people read them and they're quoted. It's now a part of mainstream media. Would you agree with that? Absolutely! And this was...I have to say- I would actually put BuzzFeed in there too even though half the stuff in there is native ads Well, uh, I do not have any information on Buzzfeed but Atlantic, Politico, The Hill and The Economist all are offering special packages to both the Democratic National Convention and the Republican National Convention. The Hill, in fact is offering

2:12:56 the companies or groups or think tanks, or sponsors quote a turnkey and custom experience including a thought leader luncheon moderated by The Hill's editorial staff and the luncheon sponsor who also gets to curate a list of participants from politics government media and industry. And they'll even make a video for you which you can use and they'll put the video on all their pages and this will cost you $200,000 That is paid coverage of your think tank. The Economist, doing the exact same thing! Sponsors can share lunches or dinners with top policy experts from The Economist that are live-streamed so your reach extends beyond the room. Sponsoring a meal is also good for getting your CEO publicity. We'll film an interview segment after the event concludes

2:13:50 So these a-holes... Pandering, pandering. This is pathetic! This is the reason that we can do the analysis we do and they can't. If if if the economist, the economist We know it's been ruined, we know. Certainly by the new editor but for The Economist to cross that line and say well listen Neocon think tank you know for 200 grand will make this video be great how can they then in the meantime before that deal is done paid-for and of course its over at the convention how can they report honestly, without problems about the Kagan's for instance. They can't! It is completely compromised

2:14:36 That was mind-boggling to me. Is this normal practice? Has this been going on for years? Not that I know of, ever since the native ad thing came into being which was a few years ago all these changes have been going on and nobody seems to call it the ethics of it they don't say hey! I think we've always stepped the lines here We're gone beyond what we're supposed to do No they...I don't know why by the way I don't know why that never happened I mean, the New York Times runs native ads. Yeah well, I don't have no idea why this way everyone's so accepting of this. So here's Politico. Politico, I would say is left leaning without be fair. Yeah. Political plans to hold a caucus energy conversation sponsored by Vote for Energy dot org which of course is run by the American Petroleum Institute, the lobbying arm for Chevron Exxon Mobil and other major oil and gas companies

2:15:33 I don't know, I think the ethics of this are very fucked up. This is not okay! No not in the least and that's what everyone's doing because they...the reason it's obvious to me Well, they need money. That's obvious that's the reason... They can't make money! Yeah they can't make money with ads. They can't make money. The old magazine model was so different than the online model that they've had to switch over to even though they didn't have to completely I mean Vogue Magazine still does well but these guys had made this decision and the model doesn't work

2:16:09 No, no. The model is completely broken and now they're doing this which just compromises them. Which is... Yeah they decided to just sell out! This makes you wonder what their mentality ever was if they so easily just sell themselves down the river or in New York Times in fact has included it I'll say it again they run native ads in fact they're part of that system which we talked about I think over a year ago which is a, it's an online system and you can plug the native at your, you sign up. And you're one of the advertisers and use, you plug in your advertisement into this computer and it places it into the newspaper without anybody saying anything now in 2009, the Washington post plan to do something like this. They were going to do what they called off-the-record salons selling seats at the table for 25 grand a pop

2:17:00 But then, interestingly it was Politico who broke the news about them doing that and The Post cancelled those sessions. And as far as I know they're not doing that anymore but it was Politico who broke the news about the horrible Washington Post with their ethics and here's Politico doing the exact same thing. Well they got a competitor out of the way! Yes Smart move! I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could deal with us Oh yeah that'd be fab We do have a few people to thank for show us 839. Eight three niner, yep. Bradley carriers at the top of the list from Lexington Michigan $111 and 11 cents and he wrote it I think I'll read. I've got a success story about the power of no agenda karma preemptively

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Producer Credits, Job Karma, Value for Value Model

The hosts read through a list of associate executive producers and donors, sharing stories of "job karma" and thanking the audience for supporting the show's ad-free model. They emphasize the "value for value" system as the only way to maintain independent analysis.

no agenda· donations· value for value· karma· producers

2:17:58 Helping me out. I got laid off from my dude named Ben position a few months ago and part of any good job hunting strategy, I decided to donate for some jobs karma after explaining how the karma works to my wife How did that go over? Would she be okay with me donating she said no Since she didn't see the value of the karma, I didn't press the issue but somehow the karma still came through for me. I was contacted by a recruiter and got a new job a few days later. I think that karma was just strong enough that even trying to get it brought on its effects." It's possible! Well we've actually had other stories similar to this

2:18:43 To make sure I play the karma forward, I'm doubling down what I originally planned to donate which works out for us. And I'd like the jobs karma for all those unemployed human resources out there." Yeah we'll do that. $11 and 11 cents and i think would give them the karma for that yeah okay but I want to do a jobs karma at the end for everybody okay it's up to you John Robinet in Parts Unknown 100 bucks. Rory Buzka, what do you think? Oh this is the Beeb donation as in the BBC The Beeb

2:19:25 Oh, 8-3... 8338. Beeb Hacksaw for the Beeb. Nice. Okay. Madison Tennessee William Smith in Sarasota Florida 7482 He does have a specific request I can do that Can i hear the goose honk? Small effort A lot of people like that goose honking thing And it's better than the swoosh So as you imagine Yeah, instead of that... You can do the combination I suppose. There's a lot of fun you could have with that goose thing. That is great! William Smith, Sarasota Florida Scott Spencer in Dawsonville Georgia and here we have these are people who donated 7416 for Independence Day Very nice And it goes on to Kirsten Gleb

2:20:18 Oh, I'm sorry. Scott Olson in San Diego California is also in for 74-16 then Kirsten Gleb in Sultan Washington 74-16 and she... Yes. Yeah, she's gonna be a dame today And she got a long note. She realized she reached Dame Hood, I don't see anything... Adam for the knighting ceremony please add kilts and kilt lifters. Kiltlifter ale? Okay. Kilts and kiltlifter ale! Okay i'm adding it to the smorgasbord that is known as the round table gift bag. Good got it. Kilts and kilitlifter ale. Yeah. She says that she wouldn't know what life would be like without this show

2:21:03 Thank you. Thank you, Kirsten. Kevin McLaughlin in Locust North Carolina 7416 Nick Ragucci in Hanover Park Illinois got a birthday 7416 these are all 70 for 16 is Kevin Bruce Oh and Milltown New Jersey Roger SD in Tampa Florida Chad Watson in ULIS ULIS Texas Christopher Arneson in Hillsboro Oregon And he said that's 7373. That's all we got for the 7416 donation not to see him as you want to see what are the one two? There's a holiday nobody cares bad It's pretty bad a Christopher seven threes kilo five alpha Charlie Charlie, you know Jason Wall and Regina Saskatchewan I thought Regina was in okay, so it's natural no Saskatchewan

2:22:02 I thought it was, what's the other... Saskatoon. No, Saskatoon is the city in Saskatchewan which is the Paris of Canada. Oh well anyway Sir Kevin Dill in Charlotte, California? No. That would be Charlotte North Carolina I think Yeah I think that's what it is. Came into check and then got put in wrong. Mangled 6432 Jason Aubrey in Foreman Arkansas 6251. Douglas Chick in Gatineau, Quebec. Double nickels on the dime. Sir Don in Wyndham North New Hampshire See if you can get Adam on the horn then you can get his 2SO card or whatever he's sending. On the horn? That's what we call it John. Hey! I'm on the horn here

2:22:50 Chris Schouler in Wellington, New Zealand. 5432 Adam Loyal in Lantana Florida 53 This is Adam Loyal on the thing there, I don't know why. Barry Coggins in Parts Unknown 5027 Sir Jim Green in Sugar Hill Georgia 5005 that says deserved award go podcasting. Chris sorry Richard Garriott in LaGrange Kentucky 50 the rest of these are all $50 donors as we wrap this up Shane Rozdilski in Saskatoon, he's in the Paris of Canada. Sean DeSantis in Fort Pierce Florida Ross Turpin and Troy Kansas Justin Barber in Los Angeles Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier Jared Soos in Chicago Illinois that's it. That wraps it up

2:23:49 That's our group of people that helped us on this show and the Fourth of July weekend where everybody is probably driving to some great lake with the boat in tow. And we'd like to thank everyone who came in under $50, that is usually for reasons of anonymity but also for people who are on the subscription you should pick up a subscription just to keep us going at some kind of base. Yeah, go to Dvorak dot org slash NA and pick that $4 a week one is great 75 cents an hour it's not that much And we really appreciate it thank you for keeping us rolling in our value for value model. Dvorak dot org slash na Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma

CHAPTER 44 / 55 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Dame Kirsten Gleb, Wild Sky

Kirsten Gleb is knighted as "Dame of the Wild Sky" for her cumulative contributions of over $1,000 to the show. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "round table gift bag" items, including kilt lifter ale and various fictional luxury goods.

knighting· dame· kirsten gleb· no agenda nation· wild sky

2:24:39 It's your birthday, birthday Oh no Here we go. Jack Genuso says happy birthday to his grandfather, Jack Dixon who turns 100 years old tomorrow! Russ Williamson turned 60 today and we say happy birthday to him. William Smith says happy birthday to his brother Jeff Smith and Nick Ragucci says Happy Birthday and welcome to the universe and give more nation new human resource John Luca who arrived at 730 a.m Central Standard Time this morning Welcome Human Resource and Happy Birthday from all Hell yeah! Nice. The new one, John we got a fresh one A new one It's about time Hey only one nighting today Oops that's my blade you have your blade? Yeah here Okay Now this is nice We don't get a lot of dames really

2:25:36 Or certainly it's less than it should be or could be, but today we had Kirsten Gleb come in to complete her knighthood. Or dame-hood as we call here for the ladies with the amount of $1,000 and more contributed to The No Agenda Show podcast, the best podcasts in universe and therefore... Come on up Kirsten! And we're very happy to pronounce the KB Dame Kirsten Glenn, Dame of the Wild Sky. Yes! For you by special request we have kilts and kilt lifter ale, meth sluts and moonshine hookers & blower red poison chardonnay geishas and sake sparkling cider and escorts... ...and of course mutton and mead if you're still looking for it and can't get it at the medieval festival

CHAPTER 45 / 55 Discussion

Spatchcocking Chicken, Loretta Lynch Mashup

A segment explaining the culinary term "spatchcocking"—the process of flattening a chicken for roasting—is mashed up with audio of Loretta Lynch discussing her "deep and painful" feelings. The hosts find the linguistic coincidence of the term amusing.

spatchcocking· cooking· loretta lynch· mashup· humor

2:26:58 I think you'll enjoy it. I think everyone will. OK, a spatchcock Spatchcock Now we're going to spatchcock the chicken This funny word spatchcocking is believed to be an abbreviation of dispatch the cock which was shorthand for prepare the chicken for roasting over a spit. I just find it very amusing and everyone loves to think of what does spatchcocking mean? And what does it do? Well, I'm going to show you. I have two ways to spatchcock when you keep the breast in the center by taking out the backbone. Oh shit! Spatchcock. Thank you

2:27:40 Thank you, I'll give you a borderline for that but that's about all i can get. Well the funny thing is when I heard that and then I heard Loretta Lynch uh...I put a mashup together it was kind of- It may be lewd but at least amused me Now we're going to spatchcock a chicken This funny word, spatchcocking is believed to be an abbreviation of dispatch the cock. It's something that I take seriously and deeply and painfully. Not bad John! I'm putting that at the end show it was good yeah thank you BATCHCOCK

CHAPTER 46 / 55 Discussion

Zika Funding Bill, Planned Parenthood, Microcephaly Science

Senate Democrats blocked a $1.9 billion Zika funding bill, which the hosts attribute to the exclusion of Planned Parenthood from the funding. They question the scientific link between Zika and microcephaly, noting that the CDC admits it is still in the early stages of understanding the correlation.

zika virus· planned parenthood· microcephaly· cdc· funding bill

2:28:21 Spatchcock. Well actually what she showed was a methodology for smashing the chicken so it's flat and you can do chicken under brick style of cooking on in a pan, oh! And I kept that little...and I don't know why it's even called that Very nice Okay But I got a recipe out of it Okay but have a little thing on uh let me see where is this? I promise this So let me bring it out now. Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika yeah! Where's the money? 1.9 billion dollars. Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika yeah! Where is the money? Small heads are coming. You're gonna do it you watch. We're gonna have a problem here. Well there was a lot going on with this. The Zika bill which Democrats voted down and to me when I read the Zika bill uh...it was very apparent

2:29:22 And that is mainly because they specified very clearly that this money, which of course was coming from the Ebola fund $1.9 billion dollars—which doesn't really exist since it's coming from other countries and is to be distributed in multiple ways with about 800 million going to national institutes of health and all kinds of funds that could funnel money to...well do you have any idea? NGOs Planned Parenthood Oh! Planned Parenthood, yes. That's good that's pretty cool. Nice and sly! Well here is what interesting about it. Planned Parenthood... well here is Executive Vice President Dawn Lugwens Often we are the only provider that someone will see all year And we are the front line of defense when it comes to battling Zika

2:30:18 On Monday, many of you were probably there. We were there celebrating when the Supreme Court said women's health and well-being must be the test for laws and policies that science not ideology must guide policies And America cheered that common sense direction Now this is very interesting You mean I'm just saying the front line for fighting Zika is Planned Parenthood. Yes, and i have a couple of clips where she justifies that but I want to go back to last week when the deputy director of the CDC was asked specifically

2:31:00 Is abortion, is this a solution to the Zika virus? Which although all the science that I have seen shows there is no hard evidence of a real correlation between microcephaly and the Zika virus. specifically because we haven't had the influx of microcephaly even though there are people with Zika in the United States and here's the CDC deputy director's answer. You know, we're really at the beginning of understanding Zika in pregnancy and There's probably a lot to say here. We don't know if a woman has laboratory confirmed Zika in pregnancy exactly what that means for her and her baby, you know with something like a Down syndrome test or some of the genetic testing that is done there is a lot of science behind the counseling that goes on with family about what it means for the pregnancy but with Zika we really do not

2:32:00 They're also, you know... We don't know that a child is going to be born with microcephaly until the child is born? The clinicians will do serial ultrasounds to see whether it looks like the brain is developing okay or whether there are calcifications or some other warning signs. And we don't have a big enough experience to know how predictive the findings are. So, we've had examples where the ultrasounds were looking okay but the baby wasn't okay and others where there seemed to be problems and then the baby turned out to be okay I think it's too soon for us

2:32:38 a very confident set of information to counsel women with about just what to expect and how to plan. Well, it doesn't seem too early for Planned Parenthood they are on the front line of aborting babies with tiny heads I guess Let's talk a little bit about what this bill does not do This again is the Executive Vice President Dawn Lew Luguenz of Planned Parenthood It does not provide necessary planning for family planning resources in line with CDC recommendations And they just said, we're not really sure that this is what we can do. We don't think aborting the fetuses is really the way to go. We should do some testing but okay you say what you want Planned Parenthood It does not give money to the providers best suited to help fight the Zika virus it does not expand the base of providers willing to help like a previous bipartisan compromise did

2:33:33 And it does not put the health of women and children first by making family planning and condoms as widely available as possible to prevent what is now also a sexually transmitted disease. Okay, so we're going to throw it on to the condoms but of course we need hundreds of millions of dollars for Planned Parenthood to get these condoms into the hands of women who might have baby with small head because they got Pregnant, but still when they talk about family planning and we know exactly what it means. Her final piece of the statement... This bill also slashes money from the ACA and the Ebola crisis stealing money from one public health crisis to pay for another Wow this was what your president requested take it from Ebola because I don't know Ebola is gone

2:34:23 There's no problem. Ebola is over, there's no disease anymore and now you have a problem with it? It really boggles the mind And I know why because they were on deck to get some of the Ebola money that's why To hear that any qualified family planning provider could be excluded by the Republican leadership at this time of great great need I find this abhorrent. There is no, not even consensus science on Zika being directly responsible for microcephaly. Well the evidence is actually going in the other direction. CBS though did

2:34:59 Finally figure it out and they reported this briefly. Tampa Bay Times reports on Florida's first birth defect linked to Zika the baby has microcephaly which can cause an abnormally small head The mother got the virus in her native Haiti This infant could potentially be the nation's fifth with a Zika birth defect also All the cases are travel related. A funding bill to fight Zika failed yesterday, Senate Democrats opposed the measure because it did not provide enough spending and included politically motivated language." Yeah in other words not enough for Planned Parenthood Wow! You know that's just brazen to me really brazen Hey you know your kid may be dumb let's abort it Your kid maybe small lets abort it

CHAPTER 47 / 55 Discussion

Texas Abortion Law, Supreme Court Ruling, Hospital Standards

The Supreme Court struck down a Texas law that required abortion clinics to meet surgical center standards and doctors to have local hospital admitting privileges. Adam Curry argues that while the law was seen as an attack on access, the resulting lack of medical standards in clinics may actually be worse for women's health.

supreme court· texas· abortion· hospital standards· admitting privileges

2:35:45 Yeah. Now I wanted to say something, we had a very important state law was struck down by the Supreme Court proposed state law was struck down by the Supreme Court in Texas and I'm very invested and very interested in these types of issues and it came down to two things that we have discussed on the program before one is that in Texas The legislature wanted to ensure, this is how they said it. Okay? Obviously it's taken the other way. It's taken as old a-hole white men who want to be in women's wombs got it They said, if you're going to have an abortion then the clinic should be up to standards of a hospital. Moreover any doctor performing this type of procedure in that facility must have rights at a local hospital within 20 minutes and this would have effectively made a lot of these clinics... they will not qualify so they would have to be upgraded

2:36:51 which I think is a good idea, and to have something goes horribly wrong within 20 minutes from major hospital. So...I do not understand why this is celebrated in the way it was. I feel that women should have a very good facility if this is going to take place and now having both of those struck down I think is worse for women Because the real problem is the hospitals who will not allow doctors to come in and fix abortions if something's screwed up. They should be forced to allow these doctors in, but no that's not that's not the conversation I think Planned Parenthood really put their foot in it this time. It was really bad what they did whereas its obvious that it's the freaking hospitals who should allow emergency cases to come in

2:37:47 Well, they could be legislated to do that but they won't do that in Texas. They don't want abortions in Texas. But I don't understand the celebration of oh well we got men out of our old white man out of our wombs okay but did you really get improvement? The fight should not be over but it seems it is like oh it's great now. It's just symbolic Well, I take offense to that. Real big offense. Anything you... You should take offense! You're in Texas and your an old white man. You got both things going against ya'. Yeah, I'm screwed. Your right. Hey um did you see the brand new NATO headquarters? Oh god. Please please- I bet they're beautiful Now i want..I'm not gonna say anything. I want you to go search right now just a search for new NATO headquarters

CHAPTER 48 / 55 Discussion

New NATO Headquarters, SS Logo Comparison, Architecture

The hosts examine photos of the new NATO headquarters, describing it as a massive facility that resembles a deconstructed Pentagon. They point out a controversial similarity between the building's layout and the "double lightning bolt" logo used by the Nazi SS.

nato· architecture· ss logo· pentagon· symbolism

2:38:40 And this thing is located... where is this thing located? I'm not sure where it's located. Do you have a picture yet? No, I don't have any. What? I'm waiting for you to look at the picture of the new NATO headquarters! Yeah, I'm looking at it now Okay what does it look like to you? Wait there are couple different ones Let me see what we got here Talking into the mic Oh sorry, talking into the mic Okay, I am just-I'm looking

2:39:20 A bunch of different pictures, including this monstrous facility that looks like something from outer space. I know! Look at it! Imagine this on a collar of a uniform On a collar of uniform. Well, the thing's too big to put on the collar of a uniform unless you're talking about the four things Yeah Like it was like everyone is a general or an admiral Okay This is identical to the SS logo that the Nazis had on their collars if they were member of the SS Do you see it? I... You know what the SS was little lightning bolts Yeah this looks exactly like the lightening bolt

2:40:08 Put them side by side. I guess you might be right it might be It's a sound they have that one thing to get the four things are actually like double lightning But again double lightning bolts which the ss just look at a picture next to it? I'm not gonna do that I'm just trying to say okay, yeah kind of similar kind of Mmm looks exactly the same to me Stuff to be aware of. Why does this thing need to be this size? This thing looks like the Pentagon deconstructed, it's that big! It's huge! This thing is great I love it. Terrible operation... Here's a news story that nobody

CHAPTER 49 / 55 Discussion

Hong Kong Protests, Kidnapped Booksellers, Chinese Rule

Thousands of people in Hong Kong protested on the 19th anniversary of the city's return to Chinese rule. The demonstrations focused on the kidnapping of local booksellers by Beijing authorities for selling works critical of Chinese leadership.

hong kong· beijing· booksellers· kidnapping· china

2:41:02 I don't know why we didn't get this story, but nobody picked this story up. Now the way i have it set up here... This is the Hong Kong clip as something let's say Sina versus Hong Kong This is the end of one story and it goes to the second story because the end of the other story is the, uh... Is the end of a report on the communist meeting in China where they were there leader. There's going on and on about the main thing we gotta do now is stop corruption And then it kicks to this Hong Kong story, which I've never heard before. And i think it's fascinating! I'm surprised the major media hasn't picked this up because it's really an interesting story. We must have a staunch will and not let up on our zero tolerance attitude we must investigate all cases and punish those who are corrupt to give corrupt elements no place to hide in the party

2:41:59 Meanwhile, thousands turned out in Hong Kong on the 19th anniversary of that city's return to Chinese rule. They denounced Beijing for kidnapping local booksellers who sold critical works about Chinese leaders. I just thought that was the strangest story. That got very little play except on the PBS News Hour and even Democracy Now didn't play it, that i know of. Hmm...I thought that was pretty bad. Yeah well who knows? You know Putin had a meeting with Japan strategic weapons meeting he's all over the place

CHAPTER 50 / 55 Discussion

Tesla Autopilot Fatality, Joshua Brown, Shareholder Lawsuits

A Tesla Model S driver, Joshua Brown, was killed in Florida when his car's autopilot failed to detect a white tractor-trailer against a bright sky. The hosts discuss the technical failures of the camera-based system and the potential for shareholder lawsuits against Elon Musk for delaying the report of the crash until after a capital raise.

tesla· elon musk· autopilot· joshua brown· lidar· shareholder lawsuit

2:42:43 Yeah, he's traveling a lot. Of course in my favorite article this is kind of tech news but we don't have to play the jingle footage shot a couple of months ago by a former Navy SEAL demonstrating the autopilot features of his Tesla at this point narrowly avoiding collision with another vehicle On May 7th, Joshua Brown was killed when the 40-year old's Tesla Model S drove under the trailer of an 18 wheel truck on a highway in Williston Florida. US auto safety regulators are now investigating details into Browns death

2:43:18 It's believed to be the first fatal crash involving a Tesla electric car and is likely to ramp up scrutiny of technology that has been evolving with little oversight. The driver of the truck Brown went under, Frank Barassi said in an interview that the Tesla was moving at high speed and didn't hit the brakes He said he believes Brown was watching a movie at the time of the crash. Tesla said that due to certain conditions, including the height of the tractor-trailer and its position on the road, the Model S didn't automatically brake. Regulators are expected to release driverless car guidelines later this summer

2:43:54 they'll attempt to balance concerns over the technology's readiness versus the promise of safety benefits. Tesla stock price has surged more than 500% since 2013, giving it a value of more than $30 billion dollars but the company doesn't expect to be profitable until 2020 at the earliest. Play my clip as backup for that. Okay got it When neither Brown nor his Tesla Model S with sensors applied the brake as a truck made a left turn in front of the car. Tesla says the cars system could not differentiate between the trucks white side and a bright Florida sky.

2:44:37 So the problem with this, besides that someone died and I don't know... so the truck driver said the guy was watching a movie and that turned into he was watching Harry Potter. I don't know where that came from but i think it's humorous Yeah, it could be advertising. But this guy I mean he was decapitated and we just because the car kept going it went underneath hit the windscreen chopped the whole top of the car off including the guy yeah then he just kept on going well here's the problem I have with the whole thing besides the fact that this guy was apparent a hole like to drive really fast and let the car do their driving He was also a shill for the company, he was on all kinds of YouTube videos. Now he... The thing is the excuse. Well you know we couldn't see the truck because the sky was the same color which is what Tesla and a bunch of these people say but I'm thinking when I hear this are they doing all that navigation from video feeds? And her head is gone! I don't know

2:45:38 Because I thought it was radar because the radar thing makes more sense, but it also introduces a new element of Horror the radar which is light our radar some with some radar like Thing that kept these cars on track. Yeah no way I see you know III think it recognizes The stripes on the road the lines. I think that's what it does yeah They could have, yeah that would be an element I can see but i don't see it being used uh just visual stuff being used as the as the main element for navigation. A lot of cars have those little cameras that let's you

2:46:19 In fact, the little Fords have a camera that shows you the speed limit thing and all the rest of it. Yeah it looks at the signs and gives you the speed limit. It looks at the signs does all those things The problem is... Let me finish because what I'm thinking is that they did have radar on this thing LiDAR or something And if you looked at that truck That truck was way up! That car could've damned near gone under the truck And I think the radar just was shooting straight out and it didn't see the truck over the top. It didn't, it was like you know Overpass or something. It just ignored it. Well whatever the tech...whatever right? Whatever the technical explanation uh The first thing we need to understand is that um people are a-holes

2:47:01 They, even though it's very clear that this is an assist you shouldn't use it just for autopilot don't go to sleep. People just do it and they're endangering lots of other people while there's taking place but more importantly They didn't report this until almost 60 days after it happened, which conveniently bridged over their huge money raise. Yes I know. I think they can be sued for that. I think they should be sued for that and they will be sued there's shareholder if the stock goes down The shareholders lost. Oh yeah, the shareholders will sue. You'll have to go after them because that's what they do is what shareholders do especially the ones who put a lot of money in so they're going to go after him and then next thing you know Musk is gonna be in court all the time I was told by very successful investor and director of a company

2:47:53 years ago, he says and he had a lot of money. He says you can have all the money in the world there is nothing more miserable that you can ever experience than a shareholders lawsuit. Oh my goodness yes! You have to be in court all all the time, it's slow moving. It's a slow-moving process. It's horrible. It's the worst thing you can imagine and it makes you miserable. And the great thing about is that it always settles for exactly the amount of money that the directors and officers insurance is limited at. Yeah pretty much. Always does that. Tesla PR did put out a video which was step by step of exactly what... Did you see this video? No. Step-by-step of what happened, it's pretty good. You're driving 55 miles an hour and you have a head on This is what happened in the first tenth of that fatal second The front bumper and grill collapses during the second tenth your hood rises and strikes the windshield Fenders begin wrapping themselves around the object of collision you slam on your brakes but your body is still moving at fifty five miles per

2:48:52 You stiffen your legs for the jolt, but they both snap at the knee joint. During the third tenth of a second your body catapults from the seat broken knees ram into the dashboard The steering wheel begins to collapse The steering column drives towards your chest In the fourth tenth two feet of the car's front end are totally demolished But the rear end is still traveling 35 miles an hour Your body is moving forward at 55 In the fifth tenth, your body's impaled on the steering column. Blood rushes into your lungs During the sixth tenth The force of impact is built up so that your feet are ripped out of their shoes The brake pedal shears off The car frame buckles in the middle Your head slams into the windshield In the seventh-tenth second, the entire car body is distorted Hinges rip off Doors spring open The seat flails Striking you from behind But it really doesn't matter You're dead You aren't around to experience the final three-tenths Of this one second Neither are your passengers

CHAPTER 51 / 55 Discussion

California Mileage Tax, Gas Tax Shortfall, Privacy Concerns

California is testing a mileage-based tax system to address the revenue shortfall caused by fuel-efficient and electric vehicles. The pilot program involves 5,000 participants using GPS trackers or odometer photos, raising significant privacy concerns among drivers.

california· mileage tax· gas tax· electric cars· privacy

2:49:39 Jack Webb could not resist. Yeah, they don't have those graphic descriptions anymore do they? No! They don't want to scare the public except it's terrorism Good times Those days are over Yes Alright guys let's see I think we got one more here that would be good Oh yeah Here is one this is an irksome clip This is the mileage tax in California that they're thinking about doing. And before we play, hold on, before we play this I want to remind people that the dummies all...I guess in most states but in California in particular they sell everybody on getting a Prius or electric car do all good for their climate and do all this stuff it creates a shortfall because most of

2:50:34 Roads and roadways and through ways and every freeways are all paid for by the gasoline tax Well, nobody's buying gasoline for an electric car. So what should we do? How do we get our Dole John seed of wreck well They explain it in here But it's not gonna work America's interstate highway system is 60 years old and not aging gracefully but but how to pay for much needed repairs. Carter Evans says some states are now kicking the tires on a mileage tax. The freedom of the open road may soon cost you and it's why Andrew Zingale is using a special app, It's called the driveway app To send photos of his odometer to the state of California You take a picture

2:51:17 And then that's the reading. He is one of 5,000 Californians participating in a nine-month experiment to see if taxing drivers by the mile can replace the state's gasoline tax. So this is getting data from your car's computer? That's right. Brian Kelly is installing an experimental GPS mileage tracker When you plug it in, it lights up. Kelly is also California's Secretary of Transportation The projections on what we'll get out of the gas tax are down going forward so we have to find new ways to fund transportation. California needs eight billion dollars a year to maintain its transportation infrastructure but it only raises 2.3 billion from its 27 point 8 cent a gallon gas excise tax there is absolutely nothing wrong with

2:52:00 with the gas tax except for one thing and that is that our legislatures have chosen not to raise the rates. Asha Agrawal, director of the Minetta Institute's Transportation Finance Center polled drivers on what they preferred you ask people if they would be willing to pay a penny per mile driven instead of a gas tax. Yes, we did what did they say? They said not interested only 23% said they would support a mileage tax part of the opposition The study found is privacy concerns people get concerned when they hear about a device that tracks your location That fear is understood however this program is really about just knowing how far you're traveling last year

2:52:39 Oregon launched a similar pilot and last month Pennsylvania, New Hampshire Connecticut and Delaware requested federal funding to test it. Secretary Kelly also hopes to figure out another potential issue how to collect the money on a mileage tax there are questions and the way you answer these questions is you test it Californians drive about 190 billion miles every year. Even if they were taxed at just under two cents a mile, which is what this study is looking at Josh there'd still be a transportation budget shortfall of about four and a half billion dollars. Carter Evans in Los Angeles thank you for that. This isn't the red book? Yes, couple things

CHAPTER 52 / 55 Discussion

NYPD Ring of Steel, License Plate Readers, Infrastructure

The NYPD's "Ring of Steel" coordination center is highlighted for reading three million license plates daily. The hosts contrast the massive spending on surveillance and foreign wars with the deteriorating state of American highways like Interstate 80.

nypd· surveillance· license plate readers· infrastructure· highways

2:53:20 First of all, I want to play another clip about because this guy bitching about oh i hate to be tracked like a dog but play this new york uh this is the New York terror department they got this agency within the police department now with hundreds of special guys who are all specialists in terrorism, but they had this little snippet in there I got a kick out of. Crowd! It's been referred to as a ring of steel it's our coordination center its uh... it's our way of protecting New York Plus three million vehicle license plates read every day stored for five years You're essentially prepared to go to war with terrorists Yes, it is inevitable that there will be an attack or another attack

2:53:58 You know in this country killing him, okay? It's the license plate readers California is yes three million a day Yes in New York City. Yeah perfect beautiful We have more than that and California has got license plate readers Everywhere and you can look it up there they know exactly where you're driving all the time so that That's kind of bullshit But would seem more pertinent to me was the number that's cost like eight billion a year to keep the highways of the way they are with pothole free oddhole pot that doesn't happen. That would, with amount of money wasted in the Iraqi war that would mean we'd have...that money if it went to the California highways or you spread it around would last over 100 years of this sort of expense

2:54:51 But nobody ever brings anything like that up. It's always baffled me, they have better roads in Afghanistan than we have across here with the pothole filled Highway 80 I want to make a video one of these days driving on Highway 80 with the potholes and show people how miserable it is. This will be implemented through your insurance company, of course it'll be mandatory if you want any kind of decent rate. If you're screwed California's all over. Moreover...I have little overview back-and-forth with Sir Chris of the Armory Have you been following these gun bills?

CHAPTER 53 / 55 Discussion

California Gun Control Bills, Ammunition Database, Ghost Guns

A wave of new gun control legislation in California includes requirements for ID and background checks for ammunition sales, a ban on magazines holding more than 10 rounds, and new registration requirements for homemade "ghost guns."

california· gun control· ammunition· ghost guns· assault weapons

2:55:30 that have now all been passed and sent to the governor for approval. I don't know, maybe he's already approved some of them? I don't know but i have a little overview of what they want to change regarding weapons in California. Oh yeah! Are you ready?! Yeah! Number one ammunition sales will require an ID and background check to purchase ammunition and we'll create a new state database of ammunition owners Right. Every bullet, every bullet you have a bullet! Yep Now it says here large ammunition clips but of course they mean magazines this bans possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 bullets then bullet buttons which is not how I would describe it but two separate proposals would strengthen California's assault weapon law

2:56:25 By outlawing a small buttonhole used for quickly swapping out ammunition magazines. It was just, it's a clip release...a magazine release. What are you supposed to do? Get a key?! A Phillips head screwdriver! Hold on! Ten bullet shot hold on wait- yep let me just open that up Also, a limitation on gun loans So you cannot loan out your gun to anybody. But if you go to a shooting range and the guy's got a whole bunch of guns, and you want to shoot one of them? It's okay but you have to have a background check. Stolen gun reporting would have to be within five days... Wait wait I have to have a background-I go through the shooting range with my friend Yeah And he's a gun collector so he's gonna let me shoot all these crazy guns so i wanna do that

2:57:16 I'm at a range, i'm shooting it at the target. Yes now I hear you! Well the language is a little opaque. A restriction on loaning guns without background checks? I don't know if that's... If you borrow it or put it on loan maybe both but yeah there are going to be background checks for everything. False gun reporting? Ghost guns here we go homemade ghost guns would need to be registered Long gun limits, only one rifle or shotgun could be purchased per month. And there will be money for lobbying to urge Congress... ...to lift the prohibition against publicly funded scientific research on the causes of gun violence." So they're going to try and pin that on video games I'm sure and now those are the highlights. But i think right I think that 10 magazine limit and the quick release is interesting

CHAPTER 54 / 55 Discussion

Trump Sign Altercation, Bankers Hill Incident, Love and Terror Tattoo

A group of intoxicated individuals in San Diego's Bankers Hill neighborhood were confronted by a property owner with a rifle after they knocked over his Donald Trump campaign sign. The media coverage of the incident is criticized for focusing on the owner's "Love and Terror Tattoo" business rather than the initial vandalism.

donald trump· bankers hill· san diego· assault rifle· property rights

2:58:14 Interesting changes and of course ammunition sales. This has always been a big one, ammunition sales. Yeah they've been working on that I think you can't buy ammo in California So with that comes my final story about a guy who... this is interesting this shows you not just what happened but also in the reporting with little bit of kicker at the end just to show how ridiculous this is So a couple of, like three or four people that had a couple drinks. They're walking home they see some guy has Trump signs and they kick him over. You know it's what you do when you're drunk because you hate Trump and you hate everybody who is apart of Trump so the guy comes out and well listen to what happened listened to what they were planning to do and just listened to the report itself about instead

2:59:01 Saying hey this guy was you know, you did you destroyed his property on his property and came out and he pointed a gun at ya Yeah That's what can happen if you do shit like that in America But here's how it was reported and listen to the disdain Ashton Farron couldn't believe what she captured on video She your husband and two friends knocked over a Donald Trump sign in front of what she thought wasn't abandoned business They were on their way home after getting a couple of drinks in Bankers Hill last night That's when she says the guy came out with a rifle started cursing at them and said quote I I have been waiting to use this. They ran away and both they and the gunman's girlfriend called police. gun on us? Yeah, this guy just pulled out an automatic rifle on us in the middle of the street. The gunman's address also shows to be a business called Love and Terror Tattoo. The man running it, Terran Beacham police let the man say goodbye to his child before they took him in for more questioning but later released him. It's ridiculous that somebody can just come out he wasn't even on his own property was in the middle of the road

3:00:01 What kind of people are these? Hey, let's piss on the Trump sign. Where was this? I'll have to look that one up. Some low-rent place, yes? I don't know but the Disney I was like oh this guy pulled a gun and she wanted to urinate on the sign what is wrong with you people yeah pull my rifle too moron This is crazy turned out to be it that was actually Elizabeth Warren hey everybody We should end down that high note

CHAPTER 55 / 55 Discussion

Puerto Rico Austerity, Kimmy Schmidt Review, Show Outro

The show concludes with a warning about potential unrest in Puerto Rico due to new austerity measures. The hosts offer a "TV tip" to skip the first eight episodes of the second season of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt before signing off for the July 4th holiday.

puerto rico· unbreakable kimmy schmidt· netflix· austin· silicon valley

3:00:52 Yes, I... Alright everybody. Well you never know what next week will bring there's always gonna be something going on. I would also say be on the lookout for Puerto Rico Yeah now a lot of stuff coming out You know I think you know Puerto Rico who are getting all angry about the free prom which is pretty much puts them on an austerity budget with Washington overseeing their protectorate financially with a special committee I'm thinking maybe some terrorism might bring them in line. Maybe. I had a bad feeling about it. Could be, things can happen Anything on TV today? Not that i know of Nothing to watch... I do have to add this tv tip for people I don't know if I talked about on the show or ever Yeah But people who like the Kimmy Schmidt show

3:01:52 Yeah, the unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. The first season was a dynamite. People bitch about the second season and I finally figured out what you need to do. I think that I did talk about this. You told me privately? Yes, I told you privately. Start with episode... skip the whole season! Start with episode 9, 10 11 12. You get to see five episodes before episode nine the show totally blows Just go to 9 and watch it out, you're done. Or you could just read a good book You could read a good book or you could go... apparently now there's some studies that Netflix is trying to propagandize us in this brainwashing operation Turn off your television people! There ya are Now you're talking Just listen to podcasts We will be back on Thursday And we appreciate your support Remember us at thevorac.org slash NA Until then

3:02:47 And always available via the tweeters and the emails coming to you from the skyscraper in the crackpot condo downtown Austin Tejas, FEMA Region 6. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's starting to fog up so the 4th of July fireworks will be ruined once again this year. I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda Adios mofos! a vast abyss to the State Department and to the F.F.R.D. All U.S. agencies were contributing information. Questions to the State Department just don't have a comment on all U.S. agencies were contributing, yeah I heard the questions. U.S. agencies weren't contributing in front of common on that so we're gonna miss contribute me I have a comment on it so we're gonna miss work contributing information working is contributed but yeah i can't comment on that for you state department into the f cancel my name with us even if you don't let me do it yeah i can't find questions to the state department

3:03:51 All US agencies were convicted of the I.O.U. The questions to the state is where all US agencies were all USA menace and I just don't have a copy Where all USA agencies were all USA menace So we're gonna leave it Questions to the state can comment on that so as they mention They State They refuse to comment on the FBI refused to comment They were in an informant Refused to comment on No no, they Now we're going to spatchcock a chicken.

3:04:29 This funny word, spatchcocking is believed to be an abbreviation of dispatch the cock. It's something that I take seriously and deeply and painfully. Into the back of this crazy people, crazy people, crazy people, crazy people. We were so smart we outsmarted ourselves right when crazy racist xenophobic horror show. Does any of this sound familiar? Everywhere the smart people were eating their tofu, the lunatics who are watching NPR making lunatic arguments that we're so smart Trump is probably gonna win.

3:05:28 Turn off your television. Adios, mofo. Amen, fist bump. The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak dot org slash N-A