Episode 684 · Sunday, 4 January 2015

Polymorphic Analysis

New sanctions target North Korean arms dealers following the Sony hack while the FCC prepares a massive regulatory shift for the American internet.

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About this episode

President Barack Obama issued an executive order imposing new sanctions on North Korea following the FBI's attribution of the Sony Pictures hack to the Kim Jong Un regime. The sanctions specifically target the Korea Mining Development Trading Corporation (KOMID), the primary arms dealer for the nation. This move coincides with reports of North Korean ballistic missile exports to Pakistan, Egypt, and Syria, suggesting the cyber-attack provided a convenient geopolitical pretext for the United States to disrupt international weapons sales.

In domestic policy, the Department of Homeland Security faces a funding expiration as the administration pushes a narrative regarding a broken immigration system. Meanwhile, the FCC prepares for a February vote on net neutrality, weighing Title II regulation against a Republican-led Title X proposal. In the tech sector, China’s Wing Loong drone development signals a shift toward swarm technology, while the fourth phase of the Yangtze Deepwater Port in Shanghai expands to a capacity of 40 million units annually. Mark Cuban has also criticized the federal government's $806 billion monopoly on student debt following the 2010 Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act.

Sir Steve Bottoms receives a formal knighting ceremony for his financial support as the program analyzes the rise of cross-disciplinary polymorphic analysis jargon in defense circles. The hosts also examine the digital manipulation of celebrity images, specifically the use of video Photoshop on stars like Taylor Swift. The episode concludes with a look at the abandoned migrant ship Ezzedine and the ongoing Prince Andrew scandal involving Jeffrey Epstein.


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CHAPTER 01 / 48 Discussion

Oregon Ducks Football, Television Production, Uniform Marketing

The Oregon Ducks' performance against the Florida State Seminoles is reviewed, focusing on the high quality of the television production and the team's unique uniform strategy. Phil Knight, the founder of Nike and an Oregon alumnus, reportedly funds a different uniform for every game. The discussion highlights the massive scale of college football marching bands and the entertainment value of the lopsided score.

oregon ducks· phil knight· nike· rose bowl· television production

00:00 They should have started booing and throwing paper balls at him. Still shaking my head at those fighting ducks live from FEMA region six in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas. In morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we actually don't call them the fighting ducks. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpotting buzzkill in the mornin'. Alright everybody has to know that it only happens a couple times a year and John will say you know this is an important football game then then I'll watch

00:45 Did you enjoy it? You know what I did, I did. Enjoy it. You know how is love a lopsided slaughter? I have no, uh...I think that's the American way. I have no dog in that hunt but was fascinating yeah of course I like football understand how the game works and if it's an important game and I could get behind somebody en route for him You know, I saw the thing on the back of... you know, the Oregon Ducks we're talking about for people out there. Yeah against these Seminoles huh? Yes yeah The Oregon Ducks never wear the same uniform Oh! I didn't notice that green is not their thing

01:28 Well, that's their color but they'll have a completely different uniform next time because Phil whatever his name is who runs Nike Yeah, I feel night Phil Knight is a huge he's an Oregon alumni and he buys the uniforms for the team And every game is a different uniform because they're hurting so bad already in college football. There's just no money in it Yeah, seven and a half billion dollars a year or whatever so so every so you look at the uniform some of them have been extremely weird I got us. I gotta give you some from feedback on the game okay alright first of all

02:05 I really love all the... this is, I look at it from a television production standpoint. Then you know you have cameras flying on wires over everything. You've got there must be at least 10 instant replay teams setting stuff up and saying hey with their own director and producer it's so obvious how much has put into this. Oh yeah! And then you have the uniforms I mean this is... these uniforms, it's like gladiators man. These guys look good! Slick It's just it's everything is put together so well right down to the what is it? The Hershey's fan corner or whatever bullcrap sponsor. Oh that thing So to make sure you don't have some loser, you know if you have actors You know they've hired extras and they put them in this box And and then they do think they know what to do and there's a producer standing next to the camera telling him when to scream and yell and it's great isn't very entertaining to watch at halftime

03:01 They must each of these bands they had must have had a hundred people in them. Yeah, they're huge I'm a sucker for a good band performance. I really am the marching band and marching band yeah And then it was just the score just got out of hand so in the second half my whatever It was very comic The way that he'd got out of hands yeah well But anyway, so that was important you said. That's good I watched it Yeah, I think that was probably the game of the year. I watched it So and then notice on the back of this one of these you know there's one one off Jersey that they put fighting ducks right? That's how I came up with it yeah I know as well. I figured because I saw that too when I said fighting ducks who did that happen It just the ducks yeah, but somebody put it on there. I think it has to do with the

03:52 University of Delaware has some crazy name, it's the fightin' or the angry or something like that. Anyway... Doesn't matter. Alright So anyway thank you for that suggestion I watched and there ya go. Gonna have a cough Yes Okay so today we are flying without a net We have no spreadsheet. Oh wait it just came in hey The spreadsheets not what we that's not based the show is not based on the spreadsheet Yeah, it is It's like if it's like a cornerstone Without the spreadsheet I don't know when to go to a break you see and you know we can hit the weather and track on the equate that was flying without a net

CHAPTER 02 / 48 Discussion

Tourette's Syndrome, Toe Snapping, Listener Feedback

A discussion regarding personal tics and Tourette's syndrome follows a previous segment about toe snapping. Listeners have submitted emails detailing their own strange habits, such as rolling tennis balls over their bodies or blowing into their hands. The conversation suggests that acknowledging and laughing about these tics with family can often reduce their frequency.

tourette's syndrome· tics· toe snapping· habits· listener emails

04:38 know. It's just, you know I'm a creature of habit. Yes! You're a neat freak because you have Tourette's. I keep telling you this and you keep denying it. Now it was funny that you bring this up because we had this conversation about my tics on the previous show... No no, it was couple shows ago. I'm pretty sure this was the previous show No, it was the show after John. This is the one where I talked about Snapping my feet my toes that was this show that was the one before no That was a New Year's Show he didn't do it on New Years Okay doesn't matter The last show was The New Year Show yeah? That's what I mean the new year show so wasn't the Christmas show It was the new year show the last show we did the previous show it was the show after the Christmas show and

05:24 Which was the new year, whatever. Why am I arguing with a man who remembers nothing? This is crazy! No there was a Sunday in between Christmas and New Year's and that's when you did it. It should not be argued-it doesn't matter Then i've had just weeks and weeks of people emailing me who are starting to become aware of their own tics Oh you mean unaware Tourette sufferers Yes! We prefer not to call ourselves sufferers as you can understand But we're starting a movement People who do the craziest thing and it's is really nice to hear all this you know all these different Strange little habits. What's the weirdest one? You've heard of well the people who feel the need to roll a tennis ball over parts of their body like in the That's like the guy that we had the clip from

06:19 Who says that he got his urge to blow in his hands for a while? I figured out then that went away. Yeah, exactly yeah But it was just interesting how many how many people responded and I think the general advice I always give is if you just know if the people in your surrounding like your family Just don't think it's a big deal and they can laugh about it with you then actually becomes less and starts to go away Um, but I was just surprised the toe snapping thing is not exclusive to Adam Curry. That's for sure. I never heard of it before. Well yeah but you don't have Tourette's The other reason that it wasn't the last show because we reflected on it on the last show Yeah...I believe you It was fine Okay Look this what I do remember Is I proclaimed that I am on Team Taylor On the last show Yeah And and uh

CHAPTER 03 / 48 Discussion

Taylor Swift, Celebrity Image, Digital Alteration

The physical appearance of Taylor Swift is analyzed, specifically her makeup techniques and the lack of lip fillers. The conversation shifts to the broader entertainment industry's use of "Hollywood video Photoshop" and CGI to manufacture the appearance of stars. This digital manipulation is blamed for creating distorted self-images among women who consume celebrity media.

taylor swift· makeup· cgi· photoshop· self-image

07:13 That was this show before again You've completely blocked out the last show it was and I have to say I did some research and You're right her ass is so flat. Well, she could wear some padding back there wouldn't make any She's been saying by the way believe me by a time. She gets to be 40 It won't be anymore Yeah, I started to look at it. It's like, um... See? I'm a face guy just look at faces She takes the makeup well Yes she does Well you can see that she does not have the lips that she draws on herself If you look at her close up You'll see that um... She overdraws Exactly The lipstick Well not just overdraws but she goes

08:05 She creates a whole different form, a whole different shape. That's why she has to wear the really bright red lipstick. Yeah that blocks off her... Well I actually cry as I've said before I admire her and I admire the fact that she's gone into that direction rather than getting her lips pumped up Exactly now that would not look good and that would ruin her No but a lot of these women in show business for some reason They get talked into it. I don't know why they do it. It is a bit... Oh, I can tell you why because... It always craps out! Women have a com- most women have a completely distorted self image created entirely by the entertainment industry mainly magazines but I'm hearing more and more now that we've been talking about this Sony stuff like I get more emails from people in the visual effects business

09:01 You've probably seen that video that was going around for a while, I don't know maybe a year back or so which shows you how Hollywood video Photoshop is what they were calling it kind of works. Have you ever seen that one? No, no Oh my god off to find it and send it to you So the way these actors look in these movies It's not just lighting and makeup there is a lot of CGI and others than other tricks that are Applied particularly when it comes to bigger stars And you hear more and more about it and just like wow this is also manufactured And it creates a horrible self-image along with how women believe they're supposed to look or what is believed to be normal. It's inbred, I don't think you can get rid of it." Well that's part of the business is what you mean? Yeah! It's part of life! Well yeah especially when you come on the air here and start bitching about her flat ass

09:59 You're part of the problem, Curry. But I'm still Team Taylor! I didn't say that it was over...I like her face! I'm a face guy, I told you Anyway, very important- I know we did not discuss this on the previous show because i didn't have all the information and of course its brand new month, its brand new year We have Presidential Proclamations The month of January is a very important month And as you know when we go through these It turns out that you know, you don't just get a month all to yourself if you are for instance National Mentoring Month is what January is by presidential proclamation In a nation of limitless possibility every child deserves the chance to unlock his or her potential When young Americans have the support they need to make the most themselves. They can achieve their dreams and strengthen our country And mentoring's just not for kids Well, that's a good point actually

CHAPTER 04 / 48 Discussion

Presidential Proclamations, STEM Mentoring, Human Trafficking

President Barack Obama's proclamations for January are reviewed, including National Mentoring Month and National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month. The mentoring initiative is identified as a push for STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math) education and apprenticeship programs. The hosts express skepticism regarding the naming conventions and the organizations behind these awareness months.

barack obama· stem· mentoring· human trafficking· january

11:03 Mentoring mentors and caring adults serve as essential sources of inspiration lifting up young people Positioning them to build the America of tomorrow. That's not mentoring us life coaching I hear it is okay, but you always have to look for the organization that's behind this The guys that say hey We got an idea we got a special month idea for you What do you think this relates to? Well, let's see. Does it involve food? No it is an acronym I don't know We are working with business to increase apprenticeship programs and connect groups traditionally underrepresented in cheap labor science technology and math STEM! STEM yeah alright so this is the stem month why don't we just call it stem month stop lying

11:53 Second, it seems like this comes around every three months or so but it is once again National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month. I think the prevention's the new part of it. Well at least they're not saying... I need awareness with what we're seeing here. We all just be over... Slavery Awareness Month, Slavery Prevention Month Exactly Yeah let's see who was behind this? Is there any except for USAID? Is anyone else No, it doesn't look like there's any hidden message in here. This is just for slavery just to be happy if you have slaves be happy congratulations and this is another one we've looked at national stalking awareness month now this one I think should be a prevention not an awareness Prevention will be in June Why would they do this?

CHAPTER 05 / 48 Discussion

Stalking Awareness Month, Free Speech, Social Media Blocking

The definition of stalking in a presidential proclamation is criticized for potentially infringing on free speech by including unwanted text messages and emails. This leads to a discussion on social media behavior, specifically the practice of "hammering" or blocking users on Twitter. One host admits to blocking people frequently for snide remarks, often forgetting the original reason for the block.

stalking· free speech· twitter· blocking· social media

12:50 Awareness. First you want to wear your awareness comes first and then when once you're aware, then you can prevent this month we extend our support to all those who have experienced stalking and We renew our commitment to shine a light on this injustice Stalking is well I'm gonna tell you now let me read on This of course isn't what this really should be called as national Stop free speech awareness month or free speech prevention month. Listen to this, stalking is a pattern of unwanted contact. Wow! This is a great definition of stalking which can include text messages emails and phone calls that cause an individual to fear for their safety or the safety of loved ones while young women are disproportionately at risk anyone can be a victim including children and men individuals who are stalked often know the perpetrator but stalkers can also be acquaintances or strangers I've you know yes you cannot threaten somebody

13:54 But text messages, emails. I don't know this gets close to What can you do? Comments as you'd want just add that Facebook posts tweets That'll be next year tweets. Oh he's stalking me with tweets hmm You know a lot of people bitch about getting tweets unwanted tweets and they Why don't they just block them or get off Twitter altogether yeah there you go but it's funny B. I had note here You know you are quick to block somebody. Oh, yeah when you're sick and tired of them. It's called the hammer Where the C stands for hammer What's interesting about it is? You know you block people who you turn out to be very productive producers contributors to the show with information sometimes with financial support and they always wind up coming back to me as a

14:51 To try and get a hold of me anymore to try and get unblocked, and it's really interesting some people you know actually Know how to do it And then I'll be like ah whatever and I'll send you a message or I'll reply and add you as I unblock this person Well, you know one of the things that's kind of trouble for them is that I don't remember...I block a lot of people so i don't remember who I blocked or why. Right. But I remember at the time, at the very moment well this guy is getting on my nerves blocked Yeah, and then a month later. He figures it out and bitches about it And I have no idea why I blocked him so I usually go back and try to figure out We you know if it's somebody at you especially because like some night But it's nice because I'm because you block so much now It all comes down to me people are they can you help me get unblocked or they'll say well John won't see this because he blacked me

15:48 And then I have to block people. There's a reason, there's a reason why I block people. One they're pestering me They have snide remarks that I don't find appropriate or... Yeah, they piss you off somehow. I get irked very easily and I don't use Twitter for this sort of feedback. If you have a complaint email me. Yeah but you blog people on email too? Well, usually the same. Keep emailing me. But this does flow into a New York Times article I read and it's really interesting how people are so brain dead when it comes to the internet, particularly this issue of you know stalking or if you look at from another angle censorship. And the title of this...when was this published? It was January 1st Web Freedom is seen as a growing global issue and the problem with this article is right in the title

CHAPTER 06 / 48 Discussion

Web Freedom, Facebook Login Requirements, Big Data

A New York Times article on web freedom serves as a catalyst for a critique of the modern internet's reliance on centralized platforms like Facebook and Twitter. The requirement for users to sign in with Facebook to comment on news sites like USA Today is highlighted as a data-mining tactic. The concept of "Big Data" is dismissed as a marketing lie used to exploit user information for relevant advertising.

web freedom· facebook· censorship· big data· usa today

16:46 Web freedom. Remember this went from internet freedom, which is you know and Hillary Clinton double-speak to web freedom and in this case this article is talking about government censorship how Putin required Facebook to remove a page about some guy who was also running for mayor or Moscow whatever But the whole idea that we have gotten to this place where people believe that the only way to do something on this vast network is through these apps or companies like Facebook and Twitter and Google, whatever else. It's so discouraging to me! It's beyond that as far as I'm concerned because I don't use Facebook which is what

17:36 Which results in the situation like there was an article in USA Today? That I wanted to comment on okay, I Decided start commenting and ideas. I mean like comment on the web or we want to come down The web issue of the map of the newspaper this comments they have hundreds of Mark well I got my two cents. I'm gonna throw it in but oh Sign in with your Facebook account. Yeah, exactly now this is also crap That's why should I so why should wait? So why am I required by USA Today mm-hmm to have a Facebook account well You know why I mean the answer is as obvious because they're part of the beacon system or whatever It's called today Then they get a lot of data from Facebook if you use your Facebook account to login and

18:24 So they don't really care about comments. No, they care about who you are. They care about exploiting the readers. Yes and yeah exactly to throw up some cool ads for ya. Relevant! It's relevant advertising. Don't you want that? Just when you're in the market for something it'll pop-up magically I've sold that lie to so many people Yeah, we can take all this data you see and we can... Big data. ...with analytics with our advanced network analysis language We got big data! We got big data with our locally managed network operating protocol All of that stuff can be got big data. We can tell exactly what shoes they want as the shoes communicate to the Internet of Things Bull crap So it was just really disheartening to me that people are being raised now thinking that this internet is just an app on your phone

CHAPTER 07 / 48 Discussion

Net Neutrality, FCC Title II, Google Fiber

The FCC's upcoming February vote on net neutrality is analyzed, with a focus on the debate between Title II regulation and a proposed "Title X" by Republicans in Congress. The potential for the government to regulate "unlawful network traffic" is identified as a threat to peer-to-peer services. Additionally, Google's aggressive marketing for its fiber-optic internet service in Austin, Texas, is described.

fcc· net neutrality· tom wheeler· title ii· google fiber

19:14 And it's whatever app it has to be and not that you can actually use this fabulous network to communicate in so many different ways. It's just people give up like oh well, Facebook shut me down. These are the people who have to be voted off the island. Well we're the ones who get voted off the island eventually. FCC saying they're going to vote on net neutrality in February. I think I know what's going to happen Now we know the red book material maybe I said the president wants or has another he doesn't know crap about that. He does really doesn't understand it, but the White House administration has said We really want the Internet to be regulated under Title 2 and of course all

20:10 incumbents, I'm sorry the internet companies or what they would call information providers you know Google etc. They don't want this because they know that really first of all solidifies the position of the incumbent network providers makes them a commodity so the business will not become interesting to invest in which will ruin Google's idea because they just want to own the whole Internet That's obvious! They're in Austin? Man They have billboards and t-shirts and teams, street teams. And you gotta sign up and vote for your fiberhood so you can get rolled out first. Fiberhood? Yeah these guys are good. You enter your address and then it zooms in and shows you your exact district by fiber node. Is it f-i-b-e-r or f-i-b-r-e? That's a good question

21:05 I have a feeling, let me see if i can find it. I'm guessing ER. Yeah ER Fiberhoods Google even has little... Hello Austin! And people love Google. Oh yeah of course they do hello What was I going to say? Something about the fiber hoods, about all the billboards. No just no just like banshees and the people just don't understand People walking around with T-shirts on signing up on the street All right So we have all that And then we have Wheeler who is you know says okay We got to vote on this thing and I believe what's going to happen There is legislation which has not been made public yet Which let me see what this says it's uh This is the republicans in congress

22:01 who are putting this together and they are working on something known as Title X. Wow, they're so stealthy there in Congress! It sure is not title 10? Well it could be but it just says Title X which is ten yeah why would it be ten uh there already there already is a title if you look at bills they have one then they have two and then they have one I understand but okay...I think they already have a Title Ten as they have a Title Two in current legislation or it might be Title Ten This would apparently enshrine elements of the tough net neutrality principles. Who wrote this crap? Washington Post, of course! They have no idea what they're talking about... This would enshrine elements of the tough net neutrality principles called for by President Obama last month. For example

22:54 It would give FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler the authority to prevent broadband companies from blocking or slowing traffic to websites. This metaphor is fucked! Stop this! So dumb, educating people completely incorrectly Or charging content companies such as Netflix for faster access to their subscribers A tactic known as paid prioritization All this discussion and the journalists, the free press has learned nothing about how this works. Nothing! So these new powers would come with a trade-off according to insiders in exchange for Title X or 10 the FCC would refrain from regulating net neutrality using title 2 of the Communications Act A step favored by many advocates of aggressive regulation including the president

23:54 Broadband providers have strongly opposed aggressive net neutrality rules and everyone's everybody has got their own agenda here I think, I like the idea of a title 2. I don't think they can... Title two would make no sense except for the lawyers because that'll just be litigated for the next 20 years And i don't see that being anything effective This is a government takeover of the internet Yeah well regardless of what it becomes It will all say all over it ISPs may not block Unlawful content or unlawful network traffic and that's the it's the last one that scares me unlawful Network traffic. So what will that be peer-to-peer? Does that work no peer to peer could be trafficked It could be yes gonna be pure to pure voice over I think so too voice over IP but again, the ultimate solution for all of this is the Distributed hash table you see we'll be in that That's how would that's how we'll be distributing whatever is left of us. That's how we do on it

CHAPTER 08 / 48 Discussion

North Korea Sanctions, Sony Hack, KOMID Arms Dealing

President Obama issued an executive order imposing new sanctions on North Korea following the FBI's attribution of the Sony Pictures hack to the regime. The sanctions target the Korea Mining Development Trading Corporation (KOMID), which is identified as North Korea's primary arms dealer. The discussion suggests the Sony hack provided a convenient excuse for the U.S. to target North Korean weapons sales in Syria and Iran.

north korea· barack obama· sony hack· fbi· komid

25:01 Damn. Okay, what else is on the list of Obama's proclamations? No that was it that's all the proclamation. Well of course he did an executive order while he was on vacation there in Hollywood CNN actually has a pretty good background or hold on this was so brazen After the entire technology world pretty much agrees that the forensics of the FBI to prove that North Korea was behind the Sony hack, along with the timeline, along with the ransom they initially asked for. The fact that they never really talked about this movie until the media picked it up which is part of the big promotional push

25:49 That the president, the administration and the President double down by saying oh we stand behind our analysis from the FBI and you don't have the secret evidence that the FBI has. Oh I'm sorry The secret evidence so they use them this is misused Misused abused Secret evidence. To put more sanctions on North Korea, which is what I really focused on. The new sanctions ordered by President Obama are being dubbed by the White House as broad and powerful and only the initial US response to North Korea's alleged cyber attack on Sony Pictures

26:28 Senior administration officials say they're aimed at any and all officials of the North Korean government, its political hierarchy as well as the heart of Pyongyang's shadowy cyber operation. And the money that finances it. Specifically blocked from any dealings with US financial firms, The RGB, North Korea's intelligence operation. Comit, its primary arms dealer plus a chief defense research and development firm In a letter to House Speaker John Boehner, the president said his executive order adds to sanctions already in place and is not targeted at the people of North Korea but rather is aimed at the government of North Korea and its activities that threaten the United States and others. Let's look at the executive order first which you know this is like candy for me. An executive order! I print it out and go take it with me while I'm pooping. I love these

27:17 Listen to this language. I, Barack Obama president of the United States of America find that the provocative destabilizing and repressive actions and policies of the government of North Korea including its destructive coercive cyber related actions during November and December 2014 actions in violations of the united... This is the UNSCR so what is UNSCR? The United Nations Security Council Resolution 1718, 1874. There's too many John. Unscur? Yeah this is the United Nations Security Council resolution. Oh yeah unscur and commission of serious human rights abuses

28:07 constitute a continuing threat to the national security, foreign policy and economy of the United States. And hereby expand the scope of the national emergency declared in executive order 13-466 of June 26th 2008 expanded in scope and executive order 1355 one and relied upon for additional steps in executive order 13570 this is like dominoes man this is so cool the way they link all this stuff together it's a lawyer's dream So the sanctions that were put on are very interesting. Then I think the press is really getting away with really shitty journalism as usual, because what is this Comid? It's no journalism. Yeah. Comid... What is comid? How do you spell it? Well K-O-M-I-D. Comid is... Let me... There's even a wiki page

29:06 So, Comit is and I didn't know this. Is the military industrial complex state run weapons manufacturer and sales arm of North Korea? I did not realize...I always thought Iran was giving stuff to North Korea but it's exactly the other way around! North Korea sells things that they're asked to manufacture so they get plans or rip off some some missile that they've been given, they'll manufacture and they'll do that in high output and send that to Iran. But also they have a sales office in Syria! Huh? North Korea mass-produced missiles... This is smoke screened. Yeah yeah there's no anything now oh yeah Oh it has nothing to do with it In fact the president even said I think in the letter to Congress

30:04 I have that here somewhere. He says, you know this is not necessarily to target because of... it was really stupid the way he wrote that. Comus D'Astra Korea Mining Development Trading Corporation Right and i find them all over the place also getting precious metals and minerals and not just manufacturing and the name kind of implies that So there's a lot more to this COVID and three of the people who were also placed under sanctions that was new work for COVID or are sales guys. So this is all as usual, this is all about... Oh here we go again yes it's about our defense industry Yes! As usual so these guys are still selling bullets? We're gonna sell more bullets by putting them out of business You can't be selling in Syria you idiots This is not how it works That's our turf

CHAPTER 09 / 48 Discussion

North Korean Missile Exports, Global Clients, Drone Targets

A review of North Korea's military export partners reveals that the country provides ballistic missile assistance to Pakistan, Egypt, Syria, and Yemen. The "Hwasong" and "Scud" missile variants are noted as primary products. The hosts joke that North Korean sales offices seem to correlate with locations where the U.S. conducts drone strikes.

missiles· scud· pakistan· syria· egypt

30:52 We distribute the arms to everybody in that it that's our corner So I think they were just waiting for an excuse to do this because they would just hope this is great Let's do it now. Well, let's look at some of these ten North Korean individuals You'll see that they're all related Yeah, Jang song Choi is a co-mid representative in Russia and an official of the North Korean government He's working with individuals in Sudan who are procuring materials from him? Mm-hmm Yeah, yeah Kim Jong Choi toll is a co-made representative in Iran and official of the North Korean government. Yeah This is just part of this here is here are there? You know here are their export partners guys or these guys are like they're like a gypsy cab

31:39 They're the Uber of the military industrial complex. Here's your guys, Rio Gin and K there's two people operating in Syria here are their customers. The Wikipedia has a list of their clients Pakistan North Korean entities continue to provide assistance to Pakistan's ballistic missile program Egypt, they've received technology and assistance for making the Hwasong-5 and Hwasong 6. Iran as previously mentioned were the first countries to buy North Korean missiles Libya... well we cut that one off Syria oh Syria originally obtained Scud B from North Korea huh and apparently North Korea has assisted Syrian development of the Scud C in Scud D's Well we were led to believe scuds are just Russian

32:35 Yeah, well they have manufactured. United Arab Emirates have purchased some Hwasong 5s This is a while ago. It's good product! I gotta check this out and Yemen... So wherever North Korea has a sales office we're droning people. Sales guys! Hey Ahmed here look he has his brown shoes on he must be sales guy fire Now who was that you were imitating? I don't know it was the guy at Nellis and in the cargo container shooting them. I have to tell you that was one of my worst imitations ever yes It's real! It's real!! Sorry, first and only time i'll play it Was that you or what is that? That was the seed guy You're not that far off

CHAPTER 10 / 48 Discussion

North Korean Activism, Secret Evidence, Black Hat Movie

The plan by activist Park Sang Hak to airdrop DVDs of "The Interview" into North Korea is dismissed as a likely intelligence operation. The FBI's claim of having "secret evidence" regarding the Sony hack is criticized as a weak justification for policy. The segment also mentions the upcoming Michael Mann film "Black Hat," starring Chris Hemsworth, as part of a broader cultural focus on cyber security.

park sang hak· fbi· cyber security· black hat· michael mann

33:29 So anyway, we of course are being sold as usual a load of crap about this. And what is the big news? I think this was good because you know the whole thing was sketchy and we knew that it's bullcrap but I never put together the Comid thing. That's because...and this is what angers me so much. Do journalists just don't think about it? They're not interested? They don't have time Or or as if someone says we don't you know how we have the time but somehow they don't have the time This is all I do. I just do show prep DVDs of the interview will be airdropped on North Korea Thanks and gadget whoo-hoo Who is going to do this? This is bull crap horse it is They're saying I got that kid guy when I saw that one past the wire too was like right

34:25 I was thinking, first thing I thought is jail to get the country code right. Who is this Park Sang Hak activist who was doing this? What CIA shill is this guy? This is so dumb let me see... Park Sang Hak! Who is he? He's the guy that says oh I'm gonna make this happen all right yeah you go fly your little auto gyro with your DVDs So he defected to South Korea. How many people in North Korea have a DVD player? I don't know, well they have 3G and I think even...well certainly 3G networks it may not be that you know who knows we're certainly not supposed to think they had that. We're supposed to think they're all you know in chains. In gulags pounded rocks Anyway I find it brazen just brazen for anyone to say we stand by the FBI because we have secret evidence

35:25 I'm sorry, secret evidence. This is the lamest thing i've ever seen. The whole story is lame and now that you brought the Comid thing and now it kind of makes sense but yeah... Is that the best they could do? Well I've been searching and searching. I'm pretty sure there's something that we still haven't figured out about the Comid deal. Something is going on and there's very little to be found just by searching around for Comid There's a couple other companies that use that same acronym as a name. I don't know if it is the same one or if its subsidiary or whatever it is here, what the FBI saying is they track Sony hackers for years! Well then why didn't you stop what they were doing? If your tracking them for years and all these things come together we got to movie Black Hat being rushed out which looks pretty good by the way yeah does Is that a Brad Pitt vehicle?

36:25 I'd have to look. Because the trailers are so quick Yeah, you know this one of those which means it may be a piece of crap too. It could be. If Pitt's in it is usually pretty good Um yeah, I'm a Brad Pit fan No, I don't think it is Get Good Taste? No, I think its Michael Mann No, it's Chris Helmsworth and Viola Davis and no he's not in it. Just looks... Doesn't mean he isn't producing it. I don't think so either That looks good Yeah, it's probably crap. But it's all coming out all kind of the same time We have to have all these things happening that believe me the reason why this this vote for the FCC vote is coming up It'll be tied into it you know we need to have better security To protect our people and well I'm thinking by the way that there's going to be some incidents since they bought Obama administration still in power yeah Some incident before March. I think it's March when the

CHAPTER 11 / 48 Discussion

Homeland Security Funding, Immigration Narrative, Airport Security

The upcoming expiration of Department of Homeland Security funding is discussed, with a prediction that a security incident at an airport may occur to force a funding renewal. The "broken immigration system" narrative is critiqued as a money-grubbing administrative scam involving complex paperwork and fees. The hosts suggest the system's complexity is intentional to benefit the bureaucracy.

homeland security· republicans· immigration· airport security· funding

37:22 Homeland Security needs to be refunded. Oh, it's coming up! Because the Republicans tried to pull the financing for 2015 so it was just going to expire... To get back at Obama for his cavalier allowing illegals to come wandering over And so the way, you know we don't even get Fox anymore. I haven't seen Fox. It's off it's been they took it off They took it off the dish. Yeah, yeah, it's improved the IQ of the dish who listeners viewers

37:59 So, they...anyway. They're hoping to put the squeeze on Obama but all they need is an incident. I'm gonna put in a book that I think there will be a security incident at an airport just before this thing fails." So that way they wanna...there'd be no argument. That's the easiest way because that's what the public really understands and that's what Department of Homeland Security stands for even though interestingly enough when the president and everyone else talks about it...and So, it irks me about our quote-unquote broken immigration system. This has now become the meme or just the narrative that what the word...our immigration system is broken? That makes so little sense! What does that mean is broken?!

38:49 Is it in pieces? Yeah, do we have to glue it back together. What is broken about it? I can tell you but what... We all know what's broken! No one really understands what was broken other than the Department of Homeland Security took over and the whole thing became a big money-grubbing administrative scam It's just impossible to wade through the paperwork with forms named 420 Yes, you need to fill out form 420 You need to send in the $420 payment. This is like the... It's true by the way! I know it's a great gag, but this is very funny. But this is like the Pentagon cannot seem to do an audit on itself though

CHAPTER 12 / 48 Discussion

NPR Obama Interview, Pentagon Audits, Presidential Arrogance

An NPR interview with President Obama is analyzed for what the hosts perceive as an arrogant tone. Obama's phrasing regarding his "six years in office" is compared unfavorably to a sense of public service. The discussion also references Donald Rumsfeld's 2001 admission that $2 trillion was unaccounted for at the Pentagon, noting the ongoing lack of successful audits.

npr· barack obama· pentagon· donald rumsfeld· audit

39:35 And this has been the case for years now. But we can't do an audit." I always like reminding people that on September 10th, 2001 Donald Rumsfeld said you know there's about two trillion dollars unaccounted for in the Pentagon we don't know exactly what happened to it remember that? Yeah. I want to find that clip. Maybe a Rumsfeld thing... I may have that as evergreen. No probably not because I don't care that much. So NPR did an interview with the president and they did, first of all, I find it interesting that they did not air this on... It was about 45 minutes on NPR in its entirety they chopped it up into a million bits and used it as- Well because you've heard Obama! I think it's still interesting to listen but I watched the entire video, so they released a video, I watched the entire video pulled a couple things from it and it was really more

40:39 He...this is pretty in the beginning and I'll play them throughout today's show. Just one or two. When I listen to him, he sounds so disrespectful of the function he holds but it's an arrogance almost. And then I never really have felt that so much as in this particular interview Just listen to what he says here. I don't know, maybe it's me... Maybe the patriotic Yankee Doodle Dandy living in Texas who doesn't like it but... Yeah well here is what I do think is true That by the way was one of the best performatives that I've ever heard Here's what I do think is true Wow so whatever you're about to say doesn't matter

41:28 You think it's true, maybe. Yeah well I do here is what i do think is true that you know I have spent six years now in this office we have dealt with the worst economic and financial crisis since the Great Depression So when someone says I have spent six years in this office its like he sacrificed himself You know, I've spent all this time as my own commodity. My resource... I have better things to do." I would have preferred to hear the president say, "'I have served the American people in this office for six years.'" Is it just me that sounds irksome? Do all presidents talk this way or did I just miss it?" I can't say one way or another. Does it bother you?

42:15 Well, now that you mention it does. But he slipped it by me but the way he says it like I have spent six years doing time. I could have been doing blow with Larry Sinclair in the back of a limo. Yeah well here's what I do think is true that I have spent six years now in this office we have dealt with the worst economic and financial crisis since The Great Depression Uh, we have dealt with it. International turmoil that we haven't seen in a lot of years. A lot of years! I love it when he doesn't really have facts... The lot of years? You know this is- We've been doing this for ever since the lot of years. Wow just bothers me this guy That and I typically don't have a problem with him but this wow man Could we just have a little bit of respect for the office of the president He doesn't seem to have much on his own

CHAPTER 13 / 48 Discussion

C-SPAN Callers, Obama Press Conferences, Impeachment Rhetoric

A recording of a C-SPAN caller ranting against President Obama's policies on Cuba, Syria, and executive actions is played. The hosts encourage listeners to call into C-SPAN to propagate their own views. The segment also notes a recent trend where the President primarily calls on female reporters during press conferences, which some have labeled as a calculated PR move.

c-span· barack obama· impeachment· press conference· middle east

43:19 I caught Glenn Eiffel, Glenn. Who is the hagiographer for the president? I've been a huge... Paul, I can't believe that they keep her letters stay on. Usually most of the people that are the liberals that work for The News Hour are not so blatantly obvious and I have a clip which is Oh, where are you? This is your evil phone ringing! Answer it.

43:59 Wow nice, huh? Yeah. That's good stuff a little interlude for you yeah I can't find that obviously didn't make this clip Good work okay on the other side of the coin Good work On the other side of the credits well have for the next show okay on the other side of the coin though We do have these sorts of calls which just brings to mind in my In my opinion that more people from the no agenda show should call in C-SPAN Because if somebody can get a call in like this, which is just our rant And the guy just listens to the whole ran and then goes to the next caller It's just even say anything on this call. Headline America resurgent Obama tells reporters Batavia Illinois Rick's on the Republican line Rick what did you think?

44:46 I thought the press conference was a disaster. You know, like most of Obama's press conferences they seem vague but in essence are meaningless. Obama has appointed himself dictator he thinks he is the poor man's caster I mean, who does this guy think he is? Executive action. That's nothing but a code word for tyranny and lawlessness. Obama should be impeached. His Castro policy first of all isn't going to get anywhere because he can't end embargoes. I don't know where he thinks he is.

45:21 all, he cozies up to dictators, thugs and all kinds of Islamic terrorists. No questions about his Mideast policy which is in the tank. Look at Egypt, look at Syria, look at the Palestinians who are bloodthirsty. I mean everywhere this guy touches there's a disaster Obama is incompetent and he should be impeached now." To Daphne Alabama and Bolton is on our network. All right now onto the weather Yeah, people should definitely call in and always call the Democrat line. That's the rule. Yeah they say you treat it slightly differently like a nutcase now somebody did call in to mention something and then the guy confirmed it Obama in his press conferences when he is taking questions

CHAPTER 14 / 48 Discussion

Millennial YouTube Video, Earth's Age, Presidential Worship

A viral YouTube video featuring a young man claiming the Earth is 2,014 years old and urging people to pray to the presidents for freedom is discussed. The hosts debate whether the video is genuine or a piece of performance art designed to provoke a reaction. One host remains skeptical of the video's authenticity, suspecting it might be a "noodle boy" prank.

millennial· youtube· satire· freedom· prayer

46:10 Lately, and the last one was a good example. He only calls on women. This has been discussed quite broadly. And at the very last one he calls on one man. Actually it was a list of who's naughty or nice that was given to him by Josh Earnest. That's what the president said so the list...He blamed Earnest for the list but it was indeed all women yeah. Sexism Yes, total sexism and you know two wrongs don't make a right is what I was always taught But that's okay because when it comes down to the American public John. I have a new noodles kid for you oh Yeah this is

46:54 Here's the millennial, the millennial of the decade. Happy New Years everyone! This by the way is one of those YouTube videos where the kids are just talking right? One of those YouTube kiddies Oh you know the kind John The kind that you send me to piss me off Yeah here's one for you Happy New Years everyone I hope you guys have a safe fun day and like You guys need to be more appreciative because this earth is like 2014 years old. That's a long time, we made it! The presidents fought for freedom Whoa, like without the president's help we would not be free right now. So yeah instead of just partying and stuff you guys should actually be thankful and pray to the presidents because they actually gave us freedom. Yeah!

47:46 Yeah, I call bullshit You watch the video it's this real Bullshit you watch the video. It's real. I don't believe that noodle boy. Do you believe? This doesn't sound they earth is 2,000 years old 2014 years old yeah 2014 John Send me a link out look at it. I'm not buying You just did this to get back at me. I'm telling you it's real. It's real! But, I gotta stop doing that. I'm walking down the street and people are looking like I'm crazy. I'm gonna stop doing that. I got a couple classics Before you do that i want to mention a TV show since you brought up Fox. I found this on the Roku but was maybe

CHAPTER 15 / 48 Discussion

Drunk History, Roku Content, Win Lose or Drone

The television show "Drunk History" is praised for its unique format of having intoxicated narrators recount historical events while actors mime the dialogue. This leads to a pitch for a hypothetical show called "Legally Drunk" and a revival of the "Win, Lose or Drone" game show concept, which would use real drone footage for entertainment.

drunk history· roku· amazon fire tv· game show· drones

48:40 There's more weird crap if you ever really got on to the Roku coup and spend some time digging through their menus Yeah, there is some crazy stuff on there If you dig deep enough this actually now that I think of it came from my Amazon fire TV stick Okay Which I like I have to say I like it. Have you ever seen the television show drunk history? No This is an outstanding product. What they do is, they do stories about history and they have actors who are miming the words as they're being told by the narrator who are semi well-known people like authors but their drunk like completely hammered I only saw four episodes in two of them the narrator pukes

49:34 on camera and it's really one of the best shows I've ever seen on television. This is a good thing to be promoting! You watch this, you will love it! Well it sounds like television The way it ought to be. Yes, exactly this is why I've always had this desire to do a show kind of around table talk show called Legally Drunk and it starts off with the scene begins with each of the presenters blowing into an alcohol breathalyzer. They blow into it and you watch the thing go up

50:19 Legally drunk and then the next one and then they all when everyone's legally drunk, then you start discussing current events You know why don't you and I just do that yeah we could yeah Of course. We first have to get my original show on the air Which was? We haven't talked about this in a long time. Win, lose or drone! That's right everybody once again it is time to play win lose or drone are you ready we got Muhammad and we got Ahmed and some dudes from Yemen they're all going to be right here on... Win, Lose Or Drone And let's go to John who has the score Adam

51:02 We got Bill with 30 points, Sally with 10 points and Achmad with 50 points. That's right! On to round two? Win, lose or drone! This is the elimination round. Bill... we could do it. Yeah well maybe. With the videos all there it's made for it. We got videos, we got profiles. Boom. It's perfect So the Chinese are into the drones. I got a drone clip so we can keep up with what's going on in China this drone that they showed on CC whatever TV CCC TV and see CCP TV They this thing is just an exact copy of one of our drones

CHAPTER 16 / 48 Discussion

Chinese Drone Development, Wing Loong, Swarm Technology

China's "Wing Loong" drone is highlighted as a copy of American technology capable of both reconnaissance and combat. The discussion touches on the future of drone warfare, specifically the concept of "swarms" as depicted in Daniel Suarez's book "Kill Decision." These synchronized groups of small drones are described as a nearly inescapable threat.

china· drones· wing loong· swarm technology· daniel suarez

51:46 But it's huge, even though they say it is small. And other stories were falling for you drones are increasingly common. Li Chong takes a closer look at how far Chinese unmanned aerial vehicles have come after the debut of Chinese drone Wing Loon at an aviation exhibition in 2012 This is the first flying practice for the wing loon team in 2015 The drone takes off after 700 meter crawl on ground It joins another one in the air, a big challenge for the control system. On unmanned flying operation system we adopt what a pilot must do according to the programming We can monitor the drones during the whole process and correct each and every movement The homemade unmanned aerial vehicle is capable of reconnaissance and assailment

52:40 It can also carry out civilian tasks like patrolling and monitoring. As a small-sized drone, Wing Loong is designed to be light and agile. However, lightness also means difficulties in keeping balance during strong turbulence. Remember when we were just starting off years ago talking about drones and we predicted all of this Exactly how this is gonna go and here it is, and it's just like boiling frogs in water man Except we forgot to jump out well one of these days We're gonna have I don't know what they're gonna do when these drone started attacking you know one country attacks another using drones

53:28 Yeah, it's easy enough to do in Yemen because they got nothing going on there But what happens when a swarm of them come over New York City so that is exactly what was the kill decision was added yeah killed decision Daniel Suarez his book It's a very accurate depiction of what drones can become. And the swarm is one of the features of these drones in the book where there are these smaller drones that do have weapons, they can shoot conventional rounds but they find each other and then they create this swarm which has come...and then they all synchronize! There's no escaping it and there's no turning it off

CHAPTER 17 / 48 Discussion

India Rape Case, Segment Error, Japanese Tourist

A news story regarding the kidnapping and gang rape of a Japanese tourist in India is presented as part of a "Guess the Country" segment. A technical error occurs where the answer clip is played before the question, leading to a brief argument between the hosts about whether the mistake was intentional. The story highlights the ongoing issue of violence against women in India.

india· kidnapping· japanese tourist· segment error· trivia

54:10 Well, they're going to come with some EMTs or something that just knock these things out of the air at the same time. Mm-hmm. Well there will be a big market for it So I have a little side thing here if you want to do it. Okay, let's not ask Adam It's kind of asked out and I want you to guess the country have a new story at this pretty obscure but You have to guess where they don't tell you where this is taking place until the end of the stories that are in the beginning so I thought This was a good possibility Especially leading into our donation segment okay For you to guess the country well i'm gonna Do the question anyway then since we're hey come on?

54:47 When John C. DeVore has got a burning question, what should we do? Ask Adam. Yeah. That's right. The problem is not a burning question because I know the answer. Five men have been arrested and charged with kidnapping... Belgium I'm just trying to jump the gun. More points if i answer before the clip is over? Repeatedly gang raping and extorting money London the palace From a 22 year old Japanese tourist The young woman was held captive and repeatedly assaulted over several weeks It's the latest case underlying soaring levels of violence against women in India despite toughened rape laws Doesn't she say india or did I misunderstand You played the wrong clip

55:37 You do this on purpose. No, no I'm not what are you talking about country question for Adam? Oh, I see what country answer. I'm sorry. I played it in the wrong So sorry right next to each other aren't they Well, the what country question for Adam is below the what country answer. Sorry it's alphabetical Yeah If you numbered them then I could number them and say something I might start doing that I'm sorry You did this on purpose though died I that is not true Why would I do that? Why why would I do that just to screw up the second? Oh, why would I love these segments? I really love answering these things. I didn't do that on purpose. I'm sorry

56:15 I could have pointed it out. Yeah, well i was waiting you would have told me to stop if you answer... I'm sorry! I didn't do it on purpose Okay well anyway was a good story India Well I feel bad now. It's not because we get no donors from india Do you want to do it over? And just edit in and pretend like it never happened No, no We don't do that. We've never done- I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could deal with us Oh yeah that'd be fab On KnowAgenda John, seriously I really feel bad about that but i feel worse that you are accusing me of doing that on purpose or you just making a joke with me. No no I'm dead serious because what you've done this before! I've never done that on purpose ever! I never said...I never said you did it! Why would I do that on purpose? Because you hate the segment! I love these segments! You're crazy. No he's right there is two clips right next to each other one says What country question for Adam what country answer

CHAPTER 18 / 48 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Donation Segment, Karma Requests

The show acknowledges its primary financial supporters, including John White, Intel Armor LLC, and Baroness Monica of Pembina River Valley. The segment includes "karma requests" for listeners and a discussion about the hosts' favorite jingles. The "Value-for-Value" model is emphasized as the sole source of funding for the program.

donations· executive producer· portland· alberta· karma

57:19 It's not it wasn't it wasn't a stretch. I went down the list, whatever sorry! I didn't do an on purpose and I think no I'm not convinced we do have three people to thank for today's show this is your idea of a bit? I don't like it yeah that's what I said now if it's your idea of a bit of blaming me that did it on purpose I don't like that because it's not true well anyway India was the answer We have three people, one executive producer and two associate executive producers. None of them from India by the way which was kind of the point of the gag John White $333.33 I cannot find anything from John White Oh did you get something? Yeah might hold on a second It may also be um... A different name as we know him

58:12 Hold on a second, I think i have it here. Well maybe not... No! I don't. Huh? Hey so listen just before you go on any further It makes no sense for you to say that I would ruin the segment as if was-it would've been a perfect segue into thanking the executive producers Why would I do that?! I dunno, I think its Tourette's I just get the sense that you've never liked the Ask Adam segment. I love the Ask Adam segment! I love guessing movies, I love that...I love challenging my intellect and it doesn't come along often that you actually do. This is trivia pursuit is not intellect oriented Trivial pursuit where did the gang rape take place? Oh let me think I know the answer to this Wait wait don't tell me Normally say India That's were all gang rapes seem to take place

59:02 Anyway, I have nothing from John White. I don't like being accused of things that okay? Yeah, I take the accusation back Thank you hope that makes you feel better much better Intel armor LLC $201 and 2 cents in Portland Oregon I think it's going to start off the new year with a donation at the best podcasting universe Thanks for all the hard work You guys do the only request we have is to hear Adams favorite jingle because it seems this is bullcrap Because it seems like John gets all the love Most of the requests are for Adam's favorite jingle. Thanks, but I don't know what it is today? I don't know if something was off you didn't get your croissant and you didn't get your bubbly water boss on buddy It's been really you won't get this have a telling me I'm wrong. I don't know what dates I'm talking about You're telling me another date thing that believe me and people ask for my favorite jingle really they have All right

1:00:02 What is your favorite jingle? That's like asking me what my favorite song is. How the heck can anybody know? Currently, currently my favorite jingle has got to be... It's not just Jingle. What do you mean? It could be just a little ditty like it's real. That's not my favorite one. Oh No this would have to be mine This will be, yeah this is the favorite one I have And that's the story. Really? No, I just picked one Okay didn't ask for karma in tele armor LLC in Portland Oregon I'll give it to him anyway since You've got karma executive producer

1:00:56 Now we have the last person on the list which is Baroness Monica, Baronetess Monica of Pembina River Valley. $200 and 22 cents from... She's in Alberta or Canada. Happy 2015 keep up the great work I'd like to do a karma request for Ken please. Baroness Monica of Pembina River Valley don't mention my last name And then, I don't know what that point of this little last thing is. What do you think? That is actually the next line on the spreadsheet. Oh! Yeah. It's real! You've got karma. That's it we're done. And you know what the thing that bothers me isn't because of all this about your segue and telling blaming me...I didn't get to say in the morning to you John C Dvorak

CHAPTER 19 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Chat Room, Show Propagation

The hosts thank the community for the show's artwork and participation in the live chat room. They reiterate the "No Agenda formula" and encourage listeners to propagate the show's message by calling into mainstream media outlets like C-SPAN. The segment serves as a transition between the donation acknowledgments and the next set of topics.

no agenda art· chat room· community· credits· formula

1:01:56 Oh, that's very funny. Well that's the reason in the morning John C Dvorak well in the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in The air subs in the water and all the day And we do have subs in the water apparently and all the dames and I do indeed like I got the email as well And of course I didn't have my pancake so that's why I'm off kilter here So just so you know in the morning to our artists oh first Let me say hi to the chat room in the morning there no agenda stream calm nice to have you all Helping out on today's program our artists Noahjendaartgenerator.com, thank you very much! 20 watt bulb who we unanimously agreed this was perfect. Two to nothing. Right well that's unanimous vote and there was some good art. Yeah 20 watt bulbs got a real professional quality when he does when he feels like it yeah he's got some stuff going on I agree these guys we figure he has his tools

1:02:51 Yeah, that art piece is nice. It was beautiful now it was nuts and you can just throw together I'm thinking he has clients he might have done something with that tool or that process yeah That's what i'm thinking he's not designing tools for us Thank you very much to our three producers here, of course executive producers Associate Execs 2 and our top Executive Producer John White. These are obviously real credits that's why they appear earlier on before we do our full segment And they're not accepted wherever credits are accepted by outfits unlike Hollywood will of course gladly vouch for

1:03:28 for these credits as executive producer. Please consider us for Thursday's show, this is looking pretty thin. Devorak dot org slash N A We always need you to be out there calling C-SPAN propagating the formula Our formula is this... we hit people in the mouth Order Shut up slave! Shut up slave Alright so I had a uh... what do you call that back ass word?

CHAPTER 20 / 48 Discussion

San Antonio Voiceover, Agent Termination, WKRP Audition

A commercial for San Antonio tourism is critiqued for its poor voiceover quality, leading one host to lament his own lack of voiceover work despite his professional background. An anecdote is shared about nearly being cast as Dr. Johnny Fever in a "New WKRP in Cincinnati" revival. The host expresses frustration with his voice agent and the current state of the industry.

san antonio· voiceover· advertising· wkrp· audition

1:04:08 So I had a really strong sense of indignation. And it carried over right up into the show, apparently? Yeah. And it was pretty much about you getting fired by your voice agent. Yes yeah well I never got a gig from my voice agent You never got a gig! This is on one of the football games with National Audience And this is a commercial. I just want you to listen to it." This is the San Antonio voiceover? Yes, and this is...I'm thinking, this guy—listen to it carefully and this isn't even the whole thing, It's about a minute-and-a-half actually very long commercial with this guy yacking away. Here exotic as the standard Inspiration abounds and at every turn there's something new and amazing to discover

1:05:01 This is unforgettable San Antonio. It's a land of art, history and culture with World Heritage nominated missions, art museums and galleries and the world famous 15 mile long Riverwalk It's a culinary scene bursting with flavors and dishes from around the world prepared by some of the best chefs in the country. It's a destination packed with adventure featuring hundreds of festivals, events and attractions like Six Flags Fiesta Texas and SeaWorld San Antonio That's right come on down to The 15 Mile Riverwalk Yeah it's me I could have done it easily Again play this sub clip Best Chefs

1:05:49 Okay. Best chefs in the country! Yeah, best chef. And you couldn't get any voiceover work? No no It was an abomination that voice over Really? The guy had cotton balls stuffed in his mouth or something I have no idea how he even talked like that So it's Saturday night You're sitting at home You're seeing this kind of, you're mad that I didn't get voiceover work? Yeah after hearing this guy. This is what happens to you? Well that's kinda nice now I feel much better! Well ya should...I think you should get another agent

1:06:27 I've used this clip. I have quit. I wouldn't be talking about best chef. No, I've got guy quit. I'm done. I'm done no more. I've never ever gotten any voice over work and of all the television and movies audition for of course it doesn't the swamp thing doesn't really count because they just want someone who could remember a line and not bump into furniture. Um uh, I did get into the final round of uh, the new WKRP in Cincinnati Oh, I didn't know this. To be the Dr Johnny Fever. It was me and one other guy a long time ago then... I didn't get it there you go and it got cancelled after four episodes Something showed up in the news which is going completely viral something that I immediately got to work on with our Brian The Gay Crusader

CHAPTER 21 / 48 Discussion

Leelah Alcorn Suicide, Transgender Rights, Dan Savage

The suicide of Leelah Alcorn, a transgender teenager in Ohio, is discussed following a viral social media campaign and a petition for her chosen name to be placed on her tombstone. Activist Dan Savage has called for the arrest of Alcorn's parents, citing their refusal to accept her gender identity. The story has sparked a global conversation about the treatment of transgender youth.

leelah alcorn· ohio· transgender· suicide· dan savage

1:07:24 He had his take on this, but I have something else i'm always looking for and it did show up once again. This is the transgender girl who committed suicide after her crazy religious parents would not accept him wanting to be a her. Did you hear about this story at all? Only vaguely. Okay well there's kind of packages going around... Is this a Texas story? A petition gaining momentum online tonight, roughly 60 thousand people calling for the family of this transgender teen to put her chosen name Leila on her tombstone. This after the 17 year old born Josh Ryan Alcorn apparently committed suicide over the weekend I hate that fact he had to live in a home that didn't support him Alcorn lashing out against her devout parents and society in a suicide note on social media

1:08:19 The life I would have lived isn't worth living in she wrote because I'm transgender She felt like a girl trapped in a boy's body But that her family wanted me to be their perfect little straight Christian boy on Facebook Alcorns mother made no mention of suicide, but wrote my sweet son went home to heaven this morning He was out for an early morning walk and was hit by a truck. Oh According to a survey from 2010, 41% of 7000 transgender people questioned had attempted suicide. Alcorn's death now grabbing attention around the world Actress Rose McGowan tweeting fly free baby girl

1:08:57 Meanwhile, Dan Savage the founder of It Gets Better a video movement intended to inspire lesbian gay bi or trans teens facing harassment. There is nothing wrong with you there's nothing wrong with being gay Is calling for Alcorn parents arrest tweeting hashtag Lila Alcorn's parents should be ashamed charges should be brought In her note, Alcorn wrote she wanted her death to quote mean something saying the only way I will rest in peace is if one day transgender people aren't treated the way i was. Tonight her death starting a conversation Let's have a conversation about this John. This isn't Ohio! Yes, I need to have a conversation first of all this is exactly why you can't be saying tranny on the show

CHAPTER 22 / 48 Discussion

Journalism Standards, Opinion Writing, Freedom of Speech

The concept of "good" versus "bad" journalism is debated, with the hosts arguing that rigid rules often lead to the licensing and restriction of the free press. They contend that anyone, including bloggers and diary keepers, can be a journalist. The discussion suggests that institutional standards from places like Columbia University are often used to marginalize alternative voices.

journalism· columbia university· free press· bloggers· opinion

1:09:42 But Brian the Gay Crusader had a very good point. He said, the way the press is reporting on this suicide is really beyond any journalistic integrity or even the written and somewhat unwritten rules of how you are supposed to comment on the reason why someone committed suicide, which you really... I read this pointer. Is that? Are they kind of any kind of standard? Well no Who would use what school or well I can ask you because your a journalist Most of the edicts come out of Columbia

1:10:25 In general, is it not incorrect to come right out and say because his parents wouldn't let him be a her or whatever that's why this kid committed suicide? I don't think that's good journalism. Well you know there are couple of things here that i want to mention one I don't think anybody has...I don't like, whether you do it or anybody else does it, the pontification about what is good journalism and what is not good journalism. Because it implies that there's some sort of rigid rules that are government edicts at some point this leads to licensing of journalists. I disagree 100% that it's good or bad journalism

1:11:14 It's just the way it's done by this person. There is some belief that there are actual rules, even though the idea of journalism and the free press as defined by the Constitution is just...doesn't have its vague but over the years has been all these rules that have evolved usually out of Columbia that you're supposed to do it this way or that way and a bunch of newspapers have also adopted these, you're supposed to do it this way. This is all bogus! At the end of the day its going to mean bloggers because they don't do it in certain ways aren't journalists and diary keepers aren't journalists anybody who's a journalist can do it any way they want but in reality this is all an attack on freedom of speech

1:11:57 So, there's no right way to do these things. And I've always been annoyed to an extreme about...oh! That's bad journalism." It's always said by somebody who has never been a journalist usually just some citizen who is out there pointing the finger, oh they didn't do it the right way. Oh that's not...that's bad journalism because I had myself accused of it many times because I write opinion journalism which is by many standards as bad journalism you didn't quote anybody and that sort of thing. And I find it extremely, uh... It's repelling to me! I don't like this imaginary good versus bad journalism because it is bogus! It's totally bogus! And I could not agree with you more. I stand corrected that is not what I meant by saying that

1:12:45 Okay. I wasn't attacking you, I was... No no no, but what I said was attackable is true about this. You're absolutely right we're journalists. I'm a journalist. I feel like a journalist. You are more of a journalist the way I see it. You are more of a journalist than most of the reporters because you reveal interesting stuff that is being ignored by people that don't want to put the extra research in. And that's as good as it gets, as far as I'm concerned. In many ways you're a better journalist quote-unquote than I am because of the way you approach stories but that doesn't mean that your model that everyone should copy and if you have if you don't do it this way then there's no good. Yeah, I fell into a typical trap the way came out but what I meant was

CHAPTER 23 / 48 Discussion

Antidepressants and Suicide, SSRI Side Effects, Media Deflection

The discussion returns to the Leelah Alcorn case, focusing on the fact that she was prescribed antidepressants prior to her suicide. The hosts argue that the media and pharmaceutical companies deflect attention away from the known suicidal side effects of SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) by focusing on bullying or religious intolerance as the sole causes of youth suicide.

ssri· antidepressants· suicide· big pharma· leelah alcorn

1:13:33 I'm very disturbed by, and this has been disturbing me ever since this first started with this bullying cyberbullying of gay children transgender whatever it is usually around sexuality homosexuality or any other of the LGBTQQIAAP acronym. And it's always all because he was bullied Oh because his parents hated him cuz they were crazy Christians crazy religious freaks of the wouldn't wouldn't recognize and I'm always looking for one thing in all these suicides and here it is. I read from the I can guess what it is don't because it'll be so much fun when you hear how blatant it is Carla says in the interview that she had

1:14:21 Never even heard her daughter use the name Lila before seeing it for the first time when her suicide note was posted on tumblr after Her death and claims that her daughter. This is the transgendered boy had quit talking about being Transgender recently this as she was put on medication to treat depression journalists of the mother effing world Please go after this story these children are are being put on antidepressants and SSRIs. SRIs? S-R-I's. I think it's the serotonin thing, yeah. And if you listen to any of the advertising disclaimers about these very products the number one disclaimer is it might give you some thoughts about committing suicide

1:15:17 And no one ever... Yeah, as we've talked about and we've had many a clip on the show about how it also relinquishes the common sense that you might have thoughts about suicide but you lose the common sense not to actually do it. Exactly! Exactly! I don't see any reason why I shouldn't do it. Boom! The only thing I haven't seen yet is the lawyers for the pharmaceuticals that show up who want, you know, oh we need to have anti-bullying laws in Ohio because kids are killing themselves. And these lawyers always present themselves as well and helping the family out pro bono but they all work from pharmaceutical companies

1:15:55 And that's their main client. Yes, SSRI, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. Yeah it is SSRI so they can deflect any focus away from these horrible antidepressants that these kids are being put on. That is why they're committing suicide And even Brian the Gay Crusader didn't catch this one. He had a lot about, you know why and but when you're on some kind of drug that as you point out John actually makes the urge to not kill yourself go away This is what's killing our kids

1:16:33 was responsible for an awful lot of suicides. Every single story? Yeah, they tell you! They warn you! We played... we used to the whole year 2010 or I'm sorry 2011 because i was going over old clips again right uh was nothing but these clips of people oh and it could cause thoughts of suicide call your doctor yeah by the way call your doctor try calling your doctor that's always bullshit don't call your doctor when the doctor never answers the phone no and do you have to pay for a doctor phone Conversation is my experience. Yeah, dude when I was remember the doctor used to make house up Let's not do that. Let's not go down that road That's no good sound like too old for it. Yeah Mm-hmm news flash yeah No, that's it yes another one of these know agenda thing you know to me It's another classic Noah gender meme when you see one of these stories Just it's just drugs its drugs

CHAPTER 24 / 48 Discussion

Media Logic, Social Media Obsession, Pharmaceutical Influence

The hosts reflect on the repetitive nature of news cycles and the lack of logical questioning in mainstream media. They observe how social media platforms like Facebook reinforce emotional narratives while ignoring underlying factors like pharmaceutical drug influence. The "No Agenda" show is framed as a support system for listeners who feel isolated by their skepticism of mainstream logic.

logic· facebook· pharmaceutical industry· news cycles· memes

1:17:29 We don't have that many formulas to deconstruct these stories at the end of the day. Maybe there's 20, oil pipelines, horrible drugs... Or actual drugs to sell to people on the streets you know? There is some of that going on. It is really so simple yet so frustrating Because it's all out now. It's just all out completely, nobody cares I see people who understand that they're being hoodwinked but they don't have the... The Noah Jindal show is a good kind of like a little back support you know? You're not the only person thinking differently that's what i mean Yeah! You are not the only crazy one Well your not the only one who sees the logic

1:18:22 And it becomes baffling that everybody's spewing this illogic and nobody is questioning it at all. Nobody ever asks, wait a minute... They don't! They just blow out whatever says on the prompter and that's the end of it. That's bad journalism I mean you could say that. But what was really bad was this flows over these stories into social media then I've just given up. I'm just looking at Facebook all the time now It's become an obsession of habit study to me and how people, the comments they make. And how these stories get around it's sad! It's really sad there is no thinking oh rest in peace my RIP my little transgender beauty. The kid was killed by the pharmaceutical industry. What can I say? Nothing at all

CHAPTER 25 / 48 Discussion

Sochi Olympics, Toothpaste Bomb Scare, TSA Warnings

A retrospective look at the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics highlights the "toothpaste bomb" scare promoted by the TSA and Homeland Security. The media coverage at the time is criticized for creating a sense of trepidation despite a lack of specific intelligence. The segment suggests these warnings were part of a broader effort to disparage the Russian-hosted games.

sochi· olympics· tsa· toothpaste bomb· homeland security

1:19:19 Let me see. I have a couple of things in sight that go off to little segue stuff here. All right, cool this happened this year as far as I can know or last year and we forgot all about it just something from the classic clips folder. The classic clips? I put them in their own folder today so yeah well they came inside with I thought might be thank you very helpful Let's try this little ditty that has come and gone. We've forgotten all about it, this is all in February of last year because we were trying to keep anyone from going to the Sochi Winter Games because we hate the Russians. Yes and Putin has gotta go cause he's not playing ball. No. Here is one my favorite ones I just said I forgot all about this! This is very funny and nothing came out of it. Latest TSA threat?

1:20:06 Okay. Warning about terrorism just as the Winter Olympics are about to begin it involves of all things... We went, this was great I remember this came out on a Saturday maybe just before the Sunday and this was it was everybody was showing toothpaste blowing up in cars and all this B-roll. Tubes of toothpaste and the Sochi games that start on Friday. KTVU's Patty Lee is live now at SFO she learned it has no direct flights to Russia so Patty given that how are passengers reacting? Well they are still afraid and it's mostly because if explosive materials are hidden inside travel size tubes with toothpaste wouldn't take much for a determined terrorist to sneak them onboard

1:20:47 toothpaste tubes could be used to smuggle bombs onto planes. That warning came from Homeland Security today and is for airlines flying direct to Russia ahead of the Winter Olympics in Sochi You know the terrorists kind of gravitate to it. Rick Smith is a former FBI agent and head of security firm Cannon Street He worries about the safety of the Winter Games which terrorists have already promised to disrupt Recently unleashing suicide bombers in other Russian cities are gonna require passengers to you know, put the liquids in the checked luggage. They've got to adjust based on the intelligence and unfortunately passengers are victimized by all this stuff. Homeland Security's warning was directed towards U.S carriers namely Delta Airlines which runs a direct flight out of New York I believe that games will be safe

1:21:42 But we're in a very different setting in Sochi than we were in Salt Lake City. Sochi is a very dangerous neighborhood." Mitt Romney today called for more information about the specific intelligence to help the TSA, airlines and passengers prepare but Rick Smith says it's likely on a need-to-know basis. I'd like to think that there's more specific intelligence on what they're looking for other than just a toothpaste tube. If someone could be you know, to a toothpaste and it's like scary so yeah I don't feel safe at all. SFO had little to say about this terrorist warning and only that it didn't have any information to share. So here at SFO, and in airports across the world ahead of the Olympics there's a lot of trepidation preparation and hoping for the best live at SFO Patti Lee KTVU Channel 2. Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine! It's real!! Yeah you know this was a long report two minutes yeah can I play something to hook into this?

CHAPTER 26 / 48 Discussion

The Americans TV Show, CIA Script Review, Intelligence Cover

Joe Weisberg, the creator of the TV show "The Americans," is noted for having to run his scripts by the CIA's Publications Review Board due to his former employment with the agency. The discussion reveals that the CIA is particularly sensitive about depicting "cover" jobs, such as journalists or public relations professionals, being used for intelligence work.

the americans· cia· joe weisberg· kgb· intelligence

1:22:43 Okay, or this is a theme. I have one more of Soshi. Oh yeah, it's good So as long as it's so she okay? Yeah This is a soshi clip uh-huh this wasn't if that wasn't bad enough If you oh, yeah, that didn't deter you from going to so she cuz everything was about do they're killing dogs They're eating gays and killing dogs. I can't remember yeah, there's the other one which is the slamming so she And even though opening ceremonies for the Winter Games are scheduled for Friday, not everything is ready. Construction work is still being done on several hotels and a lot of journalists are reporting their rooms are lacking many of the basics such as light bulbs shower curtains locks on the doors not to mention heat or internet access and in places where there is running water we hear that it's not drinkable

1:23:32 Yeah, there wasn't a hashtag Soshi problems or something like that. It was bull crap. I was listening to an NPR interview with this guy Joe Weisberg. Joe Weisberg consults maybe produces now the Americans you ever watch? It sounds like something you might watch actually. Yeah, I think I've seen it. It's kind of in a way it's analogous to the hot Chapman, redhead Russian spy. What was her name? Anna Chapman? Yeah. They moved to America and the whole idea is they're spies. And what he says is kind of interesting that because he is

1:24:13 formerly from CIA, whenever he comes up with... I guess he's the producer. The storyline or whatever? Maybe it's the writer. Joe Weisberg. He has to run it by CIA in order for them to be approved of the storylines he's putting in there. Earlier in my career when I was writing certain things, I did have some trouble with this process. For example one time wrote a treatment for a show and sent it into the Publications Review Board which is part of the CIA that handles this and they just wrote... Write that down by the way, Publications Review Board Yeah! I hadn't heard that actual

1:24:50 Name yeah, you can't do that so now in the end I was able to sort of make some changes and massage it and work it out with them But over the years. I started to figure out what types of things they have problems with and what types of things They don't what do you think and this leads into Joe Weisberg? That's why said Weisberg okay, and he's the program creator okay created by So what do you think the one thing is CIA does not let you talk about in the shows? Oh, this came up on a previous episode of No Agenda. Really? Yes! Was it The Christmas Show?! Everyone loved that Christmas show... Yeah I know

1:25:31 I'll just play it you'll I would never guess so the process has been very late very smooth on the Americans What kinds of things would they say no to? I don't write anything about cover because I know from experience that details about or about CIA cover details about how covers meaning the fake jobs that people have Exactly details about journalists. They yes journalists and public relations That's exactly what that's what the cover is yeah, public relations number one diplomats Yeah well Yeah, of course an ambassador can be station chief or yeah diplomats but I'd say public relations is probably bigger even than the journalists. I think so? I think so. So this guy...this is..I love it when they do this when they just blatantly come out and tell the exact truth because you know here we go his storylines are being checked certainly perhaps even suggest he doesn't say this specifically but perhaps even massaged

CHAPTER 27 / 48 Discussion

Hollywood and Government Collaboration, KGB Tradecraft, Sex for Intelligence

The Lear Foundation is cited as an organization that facilitates government influence on television storylines, with hundreds of scripts reviewed over recent years. The segment also discusses historical KGB tradecraft, such as using sex to gain intelligence and officers marrying secretaries of high-level targets without their knowledge.

hollywood· lear foundation· kgb· tradecraft· anna chapman

1:26:29 in some way to fit whatever is either coming up or whatever is necessary. We have, of course from the Lear Foundation we have this classic evergreen clip which proves that the government is always working with Hollywood on scripts. So in the course of our work...this is two years 11-13 335 storylines that we worked on have been aired. We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years, 91 different television shows

1:27:06 And you wonder if the Americans was one of them when you listen to this funny little banter, but it's not so funny when it's actually the truth. You're starting your new season after the Winter Olympics in Russia is that going to be good for you as people are thinking about Russia and thinking about this newly belligerent Putin-esque Kind of pseudo-soviet Russia. Well, you know the moment it struck me that I realized that that was all coinciding I thought it was I thought it's pretty great and we're gonna have some commercials on during the Olympics And I thought oh, it's all coming together nicely It's all Putin is helping you with all part of a cross promotional marketing plan I wonder all the time what Putin would think of the show? I can't figure out the answer to that incidents. I think not uh-huh

1:27:51 Yeah, it just came together like that. How isn't that fantastic? Yeah timing was unbelievable cross-marketing campaign Yes the Americans yeah, I saw FX That's right. I have one more clip from that in Philip and Elizabeth Jennings are two KGB spies Are they kgb or the FSB there's no kgb It's in the it said in the 80s this so would be KG B And the main thing is so cool The guy said about down to a clip of this is that there are no cell phones. He says today when you look at CSI or NCIS, any of these shows, Scorpion and all that stuff... There's always a cell phone involved because that is of course the slave tracking device everybody has and that's how they always find everything so they had to write this story line set in the 80s where more traditional trade craft

1:28:46 Trade trap trap, but there is some truth to this marriage and CI a KGB coming in and Kind of doing the Anna Chapman thing one of the things in the show that is based on historical fact That's it seems like it might be a TV thing But really the KGB encouraged their officers to use sex to gain intelligence information And perhaps most startlingly of all And marry the secretary without the secretary having any idea the person was KGB illegal. These marriages lasted for years, and then men would get intelligence from the secretaries." I'm glad you told me that because I really did think, yeah nice... Yeah, I wish we could have made that up. And I want FSB to know I am completely open to hot sex in change for anything you want. FSB doesn't listen to this show

CHAPTER 28 / 48 Discussion

Oliver Stone, Russian Car Sales, College Football Championship

Filmmaker Oliver Stone is mentioned for his views on the Ukraine conflict, which the hosts compare to their own analysis. In Russian business news, the Kia Rio has overtaken the Lada as the best-selling car. The segment concludes with a look ahead to the College Football Playoff National Championship between the Oregon Ducks and the Ohio State Buckeyes.

oliver stone· lada· kia· hyundai· ohio state

1:30:00 Really? I'm pretty sure. Hmm, the CIA listens to this shit? We have that one guy who keeps... Yeah whenever we say something positive about Russia. This one guy cuts his barrel in it but see he's so unsubtle that I don't believe him. No, I got a hard time believing that too. Just couple quick F-Russias Oliver Stone is now coming out and saying the truth is not being told in America about Ukraine. He has our model. exactly the same as us, but he's already pre-perceived as a crackpot nut. Which keeps him alive that's how you live long. If you live long in the business if they can... Oliver Stone is just crazy He used to be heralded as the genius filmmaker Yeah Now it's like oh he's crazy I don't think studios even want to work with him anymore Well he's a little annoying if you've ever seen...He's always on Democracy now You know and yeah I think he's probably hard to work with

1:31:01 I could be wrong. Maybe he's the easiest guy in the world to work with, but it just seems to me that he is not. The Lada is no longer... We talked about the Lada ... No longer the best selling car in Russia! Why? Kia has overtaken them. Wow. Yeah a Ford product I might add. Kia isn't a Ford product. Isn't KIA made by Ford? It's owned by Hyundai. Hyundai, I'm sorry. You're right, Hyundai. And Hyundai is what Japanese? No, it's Korean on a part here. And what's falling apart? The connection no, no you. You may tell me the number of errors in a row which I find very unusual Ford Hyundai Korea It shows what I know about automobiles. You don't care and not anymore as you can always tell what you don't care about.

1:31:56 that you watch the Oregon Fighting Ducks. Yes, why? You said I should watch! You said this is a game to watch it. Now you have to watch the final game which is on the 12th of January Which will be the fighting ducks against... Right, the fighting ducks Against who? Crimson Tide What's the Crimson Tide? Alabama. No, I'm sorry what am i thinking it's Ohio State you made a mistake is this John C Dvorak Ohio state beat well everyone just assumed Alabama was gonna win there's just stuck in psyche but Ohio State which Think that it well there they have to have if they will possibly win this game It would be an abomination, but they are they are called the crimson tide or is that Alabama? That's Alabama. Okay? What is Ohio State what do they call guys the Buckeyes okay? All right, I'll watch a game will be worth watching when he's very hyped and when does that game coming on the 12th okay good

1:32:54 I believe it's Sunday night. No, Monday night football. Well you called me on and said you don't watch sports that is why you do not know about Turducken? I mean I pay attention to what your saying! No I am glad you watched that game. That was a good entertaining game guys backing up drops the ball there is just a lot of fun stuff in that game I'm telling you the TV production outstanding. And did i see there's like hot little girls now in the coaches area with headphones on? They're on the sidelines. Oh yeah, we spend these kind of female assistants... Yeah this is good news! ...and a couple of them are pretty cute. Yeah, I love me a hot babe with a headset on looking good um okay

CHAPTER 29 / 48 Discussion

EU Climate Action, Agenda 21, Green Economy Scam

The European Union's 2030 climate and energy targets are critiqued as a massive economic scam designed to funnel billions of euros into "green" industries. An animated promotional video from the European Commission is mocked for its simplistic approach to complex energy issues. The hosts argue that the 180 billion euro budget for climate action is a form of government-mandated stimulus.

european union· climate change· agenda 21· green jobs· subsidies

1:33:38 All right, yeah onward okay agenda 21 the European Union has a nice video They've made to explain the goals and what they're going to do for climate change Wait a minute this can't be Agenda 21 is doesn't mean anything. It's a bit doesn't have any impact it doesn't nobody believes in of course now There's no there's no documents or anything not at all. I think it's acute animated video And it really is meant to get you ready for the resilience actions we will be needing to take in the European Union. If it wasn't enough for you to be in total austerity, we'll talk about Greece in a moment... if it wasn't enough for you to have GMOs coming in and if it was not for your banking sector to be taken over by Brussels well now listen to this! Are you worried about your future? Yes! Is climate change one of your concerns? Top of the list

1:34:37 How about we tackle all these problems at the same time? Yes, it's possible. That is why the European Commission has proposed new climate and energy targets up to 2030. This music is killing me! It meant for imbeciles... really By firstly cutting harmful greenhouse gas emissions by 40% below 1990 levels with the ultimate goal of reducing them by 80% by 2050 Does this sound a bit ambitious to you? We've already lowered our emissions by 18% since 1990, while our gross domestic product has grown by 45%. So even if fighting global warming is a real challenge it's an opportunity for our economy as well. First of all it will be good for competitiveness and innovation

1:35:33 Many sectors will develop quickly in the coming years, such as sustainable construction. Clean transport Energy efficient products Renewable energy This is such a scam of huge proportions But I have to say if you need to create something that will just make an economy Even who cares if it's based on bull crap? This is all going to happen There's going to be sustainable. I'm not buying that. Why not? If there is stimulus coming from the government, well maybe yeah, to build sustainable things with subsidies everywhere for green energy and all this that does create an economy. Yeah it's a version of uh...yeah But its vapid. It can't last because eventually you'll just be house of cards I think for instance

1:36:28 Green jobs already increased from 3 million in 2002. Hey, John you got a green job? I'd love a green job. A green thumb man... To 4.2 million in 2011. Yeah that's four million bullcrap jobs! People doing something green it's good that's good And that's just the beginning Secondly, by favouring renewable energy and energy efficient solutions we also reduce our dependence on imported energy. With this our oil import bill which is 1 billion euros per day! The EU is not alone in taking climate action many countries are on the same track but Europe is clearly leading the way From now until 2020 at least 20% of the EU budget will be

1:37:18 will be spent on climate action. There you go! Climate action? 20% of the EU budget... this is... That's around 180 billion euros. So, tackling climate change means business... Yeah! Good business… Yeah! And it is everybody's business. Yeah! 2030 goals for climate and energy Europe is showing the way towards a safe and prosperous low-carbon future for our planet and our economy There you go, 180 billion euros

CHAPTER 30 / 48 Discussion

Ocean Acidification, NOAA Data, Jane Lubchenco

The narrative of ocean acidification is challenged, with the hosts questioning the validity of NOAA data that only dates back to 1988. Former NOAA head Jane Lubchenco is identified as a key figure in promoting the "equally evil twin" of climate change. The discussion suggests that natural processes, such as algae blooms, are being ignored in favor of alarmist carbon dioxide theories.

ocean acidification· noaa· jane lubchenco· carbon dioxide· ph levels

1:37:57 Good money. Yeah, and then they complain about the Koch brothers Yeah, I know those guys are outspending the 180 billion euros from the EU sure sure not spending him Really good article? I read about and this has been irking me for a while And I really want to get into that this acidification of the oceans This is the ocean's at 30% more acidic right oh As compared to what is the question? Then whatever. All of this data, the NOAA National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration apparently

1:38:44 their chart, which they show this acidification which means that carbon dioxide is not able to get out past the greenhouse gas blanket and therefore is going into the ocean and causes acidification of the ocean. Yeah making carbonated water Interesting, why don't they just say carbonated? Why do they say acidified? Well carbonated water is acidified. But it sounds so much like acid like battery acid or... Yeah it does but what it is is Coca-Cola. Good well this is good diet coke! The charts they use only start in 1988

1:39:27 And this is just another version of data falsification. And they do have data from at least 100 years earlier than that, but they're not showing that because then the hockey stick doesn't work so well. So I'm looking into finding more ways to debunk this acidification bull crap. I don't understand why all the algae which there's tons of in the ocean and all the other plants don't suck up all that CO2? That's never been explained to me. Yeah, I really don't... I really don't know. And then we have these huge algae blooms, which seems to me to really require a lot of CO2 and they'd suck it all up. I don't get it. Well according to the head... What do they mean by acidification? Total acid or pH? I'm going to read the relevant paragraph according to Jane

1:40:16 Lubchenko, head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. It is quote climate change's equally evil twin unquote because of the disastrous consequences it may have for everything from the navigational systems of spawning salmon to the health of coral reefs Ocean acidification is said to be caused when excess atmospheric carbon dioxide is absorbed by the sea, reducing its pH levels to make it more acidic. Bitch! Look it up in science! There you go. Well, I'm on kind of a mission now because this is like it's being thrown in my face more often Because I was I see it too and I it's annoying that we don't understand. I don't ever science I'm trying to that's why you'd be better off looking into it cuz you'll find out exactly well fun the science stuff

1:41:13 Meanwhile, big show. This is interesting. Lou Lubchenco went to St Mary's Academy Catholic Girls School studying for independent studies scholar at Colorado College Got a BA in biology. Colorado College, which Jay's friend attended... Is that the Weed School? I've never known. No, Colorado College if you actually start looking at it it's a feeder school for CIA government diplomats. It's a feeder school. It's like Berkeley is secretly. So this is questionable right off the bat

1:41:57 She did go to graduate school at University of Washington, which helps a little. She already has...she got an MS in zoology and moved to Cambridge where she completed her PhD in 75 Marina College at Harvard. Once you get on the track, yeah, you just waltz into these schools. When was she nominated? When was she brought into...? I know do you get nominated for that or just get hired in OAA? Is that a did you have to go through some kind of thing. I don't think so, I think you just get hired Wow another gig will never get no No, you won't get the voiceover either There'd be a guy who says chef Chef is chef. Let's see what even that's right. Yes. She's interesting Yeah look into her this is why I love doing this by the way This is how I do live for this kinda this kind of thing

CHAPTER 31 / 48 Discussion

Greek Elections, Grexit, Angela Merkel

The upcoming Greek snap election on January 25th is analyzed, with the anti-austerity Syriza party leading in the polls. German Chancellor Angela Merkel has reportedly signaled that the Eurozone could cope with a "Grexit" (Greek exit). The hosts discuss the potential return of the drachma and the long-term impact of Goldman Sachs' involvement in Greek debt.

greece· syriza· angela merkel· euro· grexit

1:42:53 All right, onward to the Eurozone, Euroland. Big news as we go towards the snap election... When does this thing do? This Greek election is coming up the 25th I think? Yes this month Yeah i think it's the 25th let me just check yeah January 25 and according to the polls which means nothing The anti-austerity guys looks like they're now ahead three to one And their platform is screw the EU, screw austerity. Screw the loans were not going to do it anymore which would ultimately result in a possible default and the word is back the Grexit

1:43:41 The Greek exit from the Eurozone. Angela Merkel is all over this. German Chancellor Angela Merkel believes the Eurozone could cope with a potential Greek exit, according to the magazine Der Spiegel It says her government considers a Greek goodbye almost unavoidable if Prime Minister Antonis Samaras is replaced in power by the left-wing Syriza party in this month's election This will be quite interesting to watch And I think they've been anxious to get rid of Greece. They lie, but they cook the books. They don't give them the right numbers or their unreliable as a partner in the EU. They want to get rid of them. Right? It's all geared up for them getting tossed and make him suffer for awhile and then... Well, I would think that you're probably correct now that all the assets have already been distributed. You remember that corporation that came in to sell off all the assets

1:44:39 I forget the name of it, but just like Berlin East Berlin when they opened they tore down the wall then they had these companies come in and all of a sudden All the cool stuff that you really want is in hands of Russians including the oil Facilities gas facilities. It may I don't think it matters to them anymore Like, screw those guys. We'll write it off." But what are Greece's options? Do they go back to the drachma? Did they- It has become a country... Yeah! The drachma and their own central bank and they have to pick up the pieces is going to be a mess. Probably be a lot of- We should visit if it's gonna be so messed up we should check it out. We should. Things will be cheap. It would be fun. Well things already are cheap I think we've missed that boat.

1:45:32 Grease is doing fine before this all began. Yeah, thank you Goldman Sachs But they were lying on their fun there on their paperwork The guys who were who did the deals with Goldman we're lying yeah? Yeah, man, yeah, I know well. I find it You know, this has been on our radar for years. We've seen all this happen we've see we've continuously said the whole thing is bullcrap and that tried the trifecta of The Commission IMF and what's the third one World Bank? USAID I don't know. So I got a letter anonymously from guy who used to work at CNN

CHAPTER 32 / 48 Discussion

CNN Self-Censorship, China Firewall, Eason Jordan

An anonymous letter from a former CNN employee details how the network pulled a story about the "Great Firewall of China" in 2005 due to pressure from the Chinese government. The segment also references Eason Jordan's 2003 New York Times op-ed about the news CNN withheld from Iraq to protect its staff. These examples are used to illustrate the reality of corporate and political self-censorship.

cnn· china· censorship· eason jordan· baghdad

1:46:25 And this is a note says concerning the president's you have this note. Yes, I did concerning the president statement about self-censorship Which we discussed on the show would it which takes place? commonly with journalists and this was him talking about Sony and Warning that we should as a country particularly journalists not start any self censorship Right. And I said this is bullcrap because the terrorists win, then the terrorist when the terrorists win with you have a TSA used to work at CNN in May 2005 we broke the great firewall of China story This was that Yahoo Microsoft Google were helping China censor the Internet for its people this was when Google said Don't be evil and reportedly holding back anonymous search engine data on pedophile searches from the US government Yeah my favorite

1:47:18 It almost seems fictional at this point, knowing what we know. So the story was the T1 story on CNN.com top story on the site and all a T1. Yeah and they were rolling it every 15 minutes on the air right? Yeah and on the ticker of every CNN channel they talked about it every 15 minutes within 24 hours it was stripped from the site and programming from the internal journalist software and even from the Wayback Machine. How do you do that? I don't know if he meant his way back machine or the actual archive dot org. It has to be referring to The Wayback Machine, I think it could be wrong. Rumor was that China would close our bureau in Beijing if we did not pull this story another history unpopular. That's not really self-censorship. That is blackmail

1:48:08 Or coercion at best. Well, I think this is what...I think Obama's referring to this too when he was bitching. Another unpopular history item was the op-ed in The New York Times from Eason Jordan in 2003. The news we kept to ourselves quote unquote. He used to be a CNN bureau chief in Baghdad hard to tell how much of it was true but it was timely in that it was written shortly after W gave Saddam his ultimatum. Same thing, but better details if that is true and it is indeed his real name maybe he also has a second source of income wink-wink nudge-nudge so anyway the point is self censorship lives censorship lives censorship well no yeah an extortion lives

CHAPTER 33 / 48 Discussion

John Lennon, MK Ultra, Value-for-Value Donations

A brief discussion links John Lennon's peace activism to his assassination, suggesting Mark David Chapman may have been an "MK Ultra character." This leads into a short donation segment featuring contributors from Uruguay and Texas. The hosts emphasize that listener support is the only way they can maintain their independence from traditional media models.

john lennon· yoko ono· mark david chapman· mk ultra· donations

1:49:08 We have unfortunately neither here at the show. No, we don't have enough no blackmailing no extortion I'm really taking place by it. We're just saving the world one person at a time And I hope that people out there appreciate our work yeah Yeah, but I was looking in and people who've done this in the past? I would say you know like do you remember John Lennon when he and Yoko put up those signs on Times Square and No. Yeah, this was not long before he was killed they had love is the answer there's a whole Yoko Ono plastic band all we are saying is give peace of chance Imagine of course was exactly about this but he started to put his money and start saying I'm putting my money into you know making peace and love and And I think that's when they said let's get Chapman to go kill him

1:50:01 Well, Chapman did seem like a MK Ultra character. There's a lot of evidence pointing towards that so yes but what you're referring to is correct there is absolutely no way we could be doing this show if we ran by any of the traditional models which is why we have your donations I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah they'd be fab on NO AGENDA Figured might as well do it now. It's gonna be short yeah, we have a short segment here Let's begin with the one I read already Accidentally Alex from Montevideo Uruguay who wants to remain anonymous because of all the Uruguayans? I guess under $11 11 cents Thank you sir We need some karma requests for can we put that at the end do that for sure oh

CHAPTER 34 / 48 Discussion

Birthday Shoutouts, Douchebag Call-outs, Knighting Ceremony

The show performs its regular listener service segment, including birthday wishes for various "producers" and a "douchebag call-out" requested by a donor. Steve Bottoms is officially knighted for his significant financial contribution to the program. The segment highlights the global reach of the audience, with donors from Nevada, Illinois, and the UK.

birthdays· knighting· steve bottoms· san antonio· london

1:50:58 That's the wrong one. Don't mention my name, I'm sorry that all he says is don't mention my name this is not the karma we did the karma Cameron Dodd $100 from Houston Texas first-time donor He requested de douching put a deduction at the end for sure Austin Voss in Calgary Alberta hundred dollars LG Y Candace Hart in Austin Texas Oh 999 and she is birthday present for her boyfriend Nicosi. Oh his birthday was January 2nd I'm sorry for being late, I would love to send him some job karma We'll put that at the end just before the birthday thing and a one-time at band camp I'll do the bank camp if when it's gonna girls asking for ban camp for her man. I mean you know yeah And that's so amazing okay good Marco Strauss in Ithaca New York

1:51:56 He's got 500 said dollars and seven cents total but 96 69 on this one he Has since the worst year forever we need some karma Lost a girlfriend. It was still love he's a country song man this guy lost my dog lost my girl Hey, I'd say things are looking up man good start for the new year who needs all that Dame Beth Borazan in Tucson Arizona 8888 Adam, why would the Wall Street Journal run a story about AirAsia flying an unapproved route if not to offer an explanation for the apparent boo-boo? Yeah. This is now all of a sudden some story that seems to be important but it's not like an approved route. All of that was approved. The flight plan and everything was filed as just they don't...the government doesn't want them to fly that often but it doesn't mean that has any bearing on the accident at all. And by

1:52:55 This plane came apart on the way down. Nicholas Oman in Thief River Falls, Minnesota 7777 Lauren Smith and Blighton Lincolnshire UK 75 got a birthday in there daughter Dave Carey 6969 in Claremont Florida Michael gone Gone Solvus Guns Souls solvis gunsolves in London, 69-69. Not a birthday in there. Jared Wolfe in Appleton New York 6622. Tabitha Binkley in Eagle Colorado 5555. Steve Bottoms

1:53:32 In Reno, Nevada. 51. Oh we do have a douchebag call out from Tabitha. And Steve will become a knight! Yeah let's do Tabithas as a douche bag. For my last... for late Christmas and to start the ball rolling for my husband Billy Magruder please give him a de-douching and call out Bud Magruder who got us into this show as a douche bag. Hey man. Douchebag! That's no good? We'll put the de-douching balls at the end I do it along with the karma. Steve Bottoms at night, Matthew Janiszewski in Chicago 50 these are all fifties or up to the fifties already Adam Beck in Las Awages Nevada and Steve Milliken in Corpus Christi Texas Scott Wallace San Antonio where they have a lot of nice trash

1:54:26 Ships. Ships. Ships. Ships. Soren... Jersgaard, what do you think? You could be able to... That sounds something that you can pronounce. It's like Jar-Jars-Garden. I'd say um... Kiarzgaard? Okay, sounds good. And finally Jason Deluzio in Chatsford Pennsylvania along with our regular store mark Tanner from Whittier California that concludes our list I have two for shows six eight four I have one let me see this is from

CHAPTER 35 / 48 Discussion

Big-Ass Blonde, Island Invitation, Forwarded Checks

A $250 check and a Christmas card were received from a listener known as the "Big-Ass Blonde," who previously met the hosts at a San Antonio meetup. She has reportedly moved to a private island in the Pacific and extended an invitation to the hosts. The check was successfully forwarded from the show's old address, and she is credited as an Associate Executive Producer.

san antonio· el cerrito· island· meetup· donations

1:55:10 Sir Kyle Kinzel my donation of $50.00 He said I'm 682. Oh Are we good? Yeah, well what you talked about don't you remember the guy and he wants to think that be blasting out over there Did we do the douchebag call-out I don't know we did the douchebag call out. But, well we can do the douchebag... Oh no! We did that was a chairlift operator you're right i'm sorry Yeah the chairlift operator wanted him called out on the speakers You remember it? Yes Because it was funny story. I remember Then I have a check this was interesting this came to the house with a Christmas card With a $250 dollar check which I'll send to you says No Agenda Show on it so I guess I can't cash that Can I? Send it to me is fine Well yeah

1:56:00 And it's from... Box 339 El Cerrito, California. Make a no agenda show box 339 El Cerrito, California is where chicks go and this is from the big-ass blonde do you remember her? I think she was making a pass at ya! Well I hope so she is currently living on an island in the Pacific What yes, I'm not allowed to say what you get your address? Oh well we met her at the meetup before we did the hot pocket store Because she's from San Antonio. She came up and you know do you remember she's an insider man vaguely Yeah

1:56:38 And she's big-ass blonde is exactly what she is fantastic, and she invites us to come to her island. Okay? What Island is this I'm not allowed to say oh, okay We can tell me later most definitely tell you later does She own a whole Island no but she has the place on an island yes, okay Let's just say she stationed on an island does that help Oh No I don't know. You, you don't remember the whole story about the big ass blonde anyway but I will put her as a associate executive producer for today's show and this check came again it has been going it was actually sent to our old address and they got forwarded so I'm glad we got it thank you everybody even though it is short list and we do have a show coming up on Thursday of course more deconstruction more oh I don't know proper journalism is what we'll try to do proper

CHAPTER 36 / 48 Discussion

Knighting of Sir Steve Bottoms, No Agenda Nation

The formal knighting ceremony for Sir Steve Bottoms is completed, with the hosts detailing the various luxury items and "Oktoberfest frow lines" available at the No Agenda roundtable. Sir Steve is encouraged to visit the No Agenda Nation website to claim his ring and certificate. This segment reinforces the community-driven honors system of the podcast.

knighting· steve bottoms· no agenda nation· rings· ceremony

1:57:29 Proper journalism. We really trying hard. Dvorak dot org slash N A. In this wing time at band camp I stuck a flute in my pussy Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You thought karma And her head is gone Yay It's a birthday, birthday on No Hunchin' Gun. Hey! Here is the list. Candice Hart says happy birthday to her boyfriend Kosey. Mnkosey celebrated on the 2nd Sir. Chris Stans has happy birthday to his daughter Lauren Smith She celebrating on 5 January and Miguel Gonglaves says Happy Birthday to Lou Garcia 42 years old today. Happy Birthday from all your friends here at The Best Podcast in The Universe

1:58:20 Bringing out the swords right away. We've got a knighting, very nice to see Steve Bottoms joining us here and we'll get him up on the podium. Steve Bottoms thank you very much for your accounting and for your Long support of the best podcast in universe the amount of $1,000 or more therefore we introduce you as a new member to the no agenda roundtable and 90 sir old IT guy Please serve for you hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay sake and sushi beer pepperoni pizza Hookers and Molly whiskey and wet wipes We got Pepe van Winkle bourbon served by Oktoberfest frow lines. And of course there's always the ever-popular mutton and mead

1:59:05 Steve go to no agenda nation comm slash rings and please tweet us when you receive your ring your sealing wax The certificate etc. Yes with a picture yep very cool We like that a lot you can just upload right there well I was you know as you mentioned this journalism, what's the journalism? What's good? What's bad? I know one thing for sure that I would agree with everybody on Which is if you ask a question about Yeah, and then the guy goes off the deep end doesn't answer the question in any way shape or form it seems

CHAPTER 37 / 48 Discussion

Cross-Disciplinary Polymorphic Analysis, Attribution, BS Artists

A recording from a defense conference features a technical expert using the phrase "cross-disciplinary polymorphic analysis" to explain how the government can solve the problem of cyber attribution. The hosts mock the speaker for using "word salad" and "big data" buzzwords to avoid answering a simple question about tracking anonymous hackers. The segment highlights the perceived incompetence and obfuscation within the defense industry.

attribution· malware· polymorphic analysis· big data· defense department

1:59:41 It behooves the journalist to say, that wasn't the question I asked. I want to answer because nobody ever does that especially in a White House or the Defense Department or this part of department state because you will be disinvited and won't be able go back so this is the way it works. So I found couple classics from 2000...I think 11 This is two clips One is the amazing BS or attribution question Now this one The woman asked a very straightforward, very interesting question and the guy does one of those trickerations. Well you know... What's really important is that the question you should be asking is?

2:00:23 It's not that quite it's not quite that blatant But is might as well be and this guy is one of the I think this is State Department one of the tech experts talking through his hat making stuff up as he goes along with a just a ridiculous answer so I'm gonna push back on you. Just a little bit on the attribution question, which if you don't see is that big a challenge? I guess if I bought laptop with cash and I created malware and I stripped all the identifiers out of it. And, then traveled to a foreign city and went into an internet cafe with unsecure Wi-Fi and launched my malware and erased my disk and dumped that computer in a dumpster

2:01:15 That malware in that one computer could be enough to bring down the critical infrastructure of a city. Could you track me down? Could you find me?" So let me answer your question by actually tying into something that General was talking about, I think we forget that times of conflict are generally a great catalyst for technological and organizational advancement. We saw the emergence of the concepts of air-land battle, for example coming out of World War I developing through World War II through the Cold War era we have Teflon as a consequence of the space age innovation coming out of the last 10 years of the global war on terror has been a revolution in the way that we apply intelligence and warfare. Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, currently head of the DIA but previously director for intelligence with JSOC in Afghanistan and Iraq said, I think quite presciently, in the 21st century

2:02:08 intelligence and information are maneuvering fire. The ability to be able to generate data from vast distributed services, to aggregate it, to correlate it, to share it effectively, to create actionable items is a huge advancement which was responsible for example the ability to interdict IED networks in Iraq before they were able to form. That same kind of cross disciplinary Wait a minute, hold on. Time to roll this back. This is a good one. The polymorphic what? This is good. I want to write this down.

2:02:57 polymorphic analysis made possible by the fusion of data and analytical systems cross-disciplinary polymorphic I gotta use this. It's a good one polymorphic, I take it back to the defense department Which was responsible for for example the ability to interdict ied networks in Iraq? Okay that same kind of cross disciplinary polymorphic analysis made possible by the fusion of data and analytical systems is exactly what would solve the problem of attribution made possible

2:03:38 That will solve the problem of attribution. So this woman who had bought the computer with cash and dropped some malware into the public domain, and then dumped a computer could be found out Anyway, because of cross-discipline polymorphic analysis they'd figure it out who was. There's one thing... something in the end. Cross disciplinary polymorphic analysis made possible by the analytics... It would solve the problem attribution. By the analytics? This is fantastic! I'm just going to say this to people. Made possible by fusion data and analytical systems is exactly what would solve the problem attribution. Fusion of data

2:04:21 and analytical systems. And analytical systems will solve the problem of attribution? Great question! That's not a great question! Wow That guy should be shot. I think we should just take him out back, shoot this guy." Yeah! This is what we're dealing with...this is why we can make no progress in this country. This is why the budget for the military has gone so high because of this guy and everybody's just started booing him they should have started booing and throwing paper balls at him Wow Well he does another little one here No there's more? There's one little one Alright here we go And this is The BS Artist Part 2

CHAPTER 38 / 48 Discussion

Stuxnet, Cyber Weaponization, Sales Pitches

The discussion continues with a critique of how cyber security is framed as a traditional military platform, citing the "Olympic Games" (Stuxnet) operation as a turning point. The hosts mock the "sales guy" approach to national security, where complex code is treated as a precise weapon. They joke about starting their own consulting firm using the same nonsensical technical jargon.

stuxnet· cyber warfare· olympic games· sales pitch· analytics

2:05:10 I shall take a listen to this because as you know the cross-disciplinary polymorphic analysis made possible by the analytics of the fusion of data and analytical systems will solve the problem of attribution. I think that enduring lesson that comes out of Stuxnet and Olympic Games is that it proved once for all, but you can weaponize cyberspace and treat it as if it was any other weapons platform meaning there's propagator code that will deliver a code which is finely targeted to affect only one certain place onto target. I think it's nonsense to talk about cyber security without thinking about it in terms of offending

2:05:49 offense and defense. When we train our infanteres and send them on peacekeeping missions, they're not going to be moving backwards. They are trained in advance-to-contact as well as defensive. We need to think in terms of cyber in exactly the same kind of way because cyber weapons are largely defined in terms of legal liability what you're talking about who they affect what they affect and because code gives us the ability to actually make that quite precise again Olympic Games I think proves that. I think it's a reality that we have to get over Oh my goodness. Who is this guy from? I believe this was a defense department guy and i'm gonna have to now... He must be but he's not in the defensive, but he's a sales guy! There's got to be a sales guy No, I think when the public relations department they have like 10 000 people

2:06:37 Okay, bill your turn go up there and wow. Oh wow Wow I don't know I've got now you gotta do some research and find out this would be fun We should just still doing it is obviously still having the same phony baloney pitches Maybe we can just create a website that makes it look like we have a real company Just put this kind of crap in there Yeah, just take plenty of websites like that. I know but it will be ours and we can take something Retainers retainer payments retainers sense good And then we'll just do you know if we can stay at home We can do what is that the go to meeting and yeah? It's a John

2:07:18 John, what do you think now that you've looked at the cross-disciplinary polymorphic analysis? Well I'm telling ya if I finally come to the conclusion that this cross discipline is going to make it possible with a fusion of both data systems, big data. Big data is extremely important because it's going to allow us to analyze to the point where we can actually find a man doing the coding in the country that he's at as he codes in real time because there are attributions available to us now that we have analytics. And even if they strip out all of the identifiers, we still can find the propagation code or put our own propagation code in

CHAPTER 39 / 48 Discussion

Code Signatures, Handwriting Recognition, Sony Pitch

The hosts discuss the reality of code attribution, comparing a programmer's unique coding style to handwriting recognition. They suggest that even if identifiers are stripped, analytical programs can often identify the author. This leads to a satirical pitch for a "Doom Viking IP Identifier" service aimed at companies like Sony that have suffered major data breaches.

coding· signatures· handwriting recognition· sony· consulting

2:08:00 to have the attribution fall back through the cloud-based system that we yelled at. We already did in stripping out the identifiers is they don't know all the identifiers it's I think the analogy is the VIN numbers on automobiles there's two of them that are hidden and there are plenty of hidden attribute to attribute attribute data. Dude, you're falling apart on the pitch! Sorry there's plenty of other alternative attribution data within any code that is of any size just in fact for example if I save a Word document there will be my name yes and i could do exactly this John this is a great analogy for the for you people here in the room as clients John please continue

2:08:49 So it is always possible to get the attribution. It's never completely destroyed and then there is the signature, now the signature may be the absolute easiest way to find attribution everybody codes differently and you run an analytical program on top of the code and you can pretty much identify the person who wrote the code because everybody writes a little different like its exactly same as handwriting recognition. Yes, it's completely the same and we would like to start you off with our With our doom Viking IP identifier cloud service which runs 50,000 reasonable dudes only $15,000 a month $10,000 in my last we have dollars a seat and we have it and we have a setup fee obviously But that's no right but our team I'll be there for the will. I will personally be on site with the team integrating doing the meetings of course We have our hand off And then you know we have our people who continue

2:09:41 Yeah, we do need an office on site because we do not want a Sony thing here. You know what I'm saying? Come on! Come on Sony! One word for you people...Sony! And Regin? Regin? Regin? Regin. Regen. I've actually got the official pronunciation. Regan. Regen. I think we could probably work out a pitch and have one down in just a matter of days if we had some PowerPoint Some power points click-click click five slides more than that as you push, and then we'll show as our credentials will show all of our challenge coins This is where I'm as metals. We can't say we worked on these projects because you can see why yeah because It's pretty obvious that worry we don't want to throw in the brig You know gonna be careful. We could do it. Yeah, no we can do it. It's a backup Hey, you know I just wanna talk briefly because I had the same

CHAPTER 40 / 48 Discussion

Pakistan School Massacre, Sandy Hook Photo, Media Hoaxes

A controversy regarding a photo from the Pakistan school massacre, which allegedly featured a child from the Sandy Hook shooting, is examined. The hosts argue that such "hoaxes" are often introduced to marginalize alternative media sources by making them appear conspiratorial. They caution listeners to be wary of easily debunked propaganda that discredits legitimate skepticism.

pakistan· sandy hook· bbc· photoshop· marginalization

2:10:45 response you did about this picture that starts showing up of supposedly at the Pakistan school massacre, there was a picture that was used as one of the faces of the kids who was killed who was one of the Sandy Hook kids. And I saw that photo and I'm like, Photoshop to me immediately! I didn't buy it all however the thing is interesting is that this is now showing, the BBC is showing footage with the same pictures in it. And there's some website... what was it? A World at School which I think is a USAID sponsored thing. Well there you have it! Yeah World at School What We Do and they're using the picture on their website It's kind of like

2:11:41 a composite of a whole bunch of dead kids. Yeah, code! What do you think? I mean...I don't have hard time believing that the picture wasn't photoshopped in it's all it's kind of hard to even prove one way or the other I guess Well, they had that wall. They showed a picture with the kid on the wall Yeah That's the one that BBC was using That would take all of the effort of printing the picture of the kid onto a piece of paper and gluing it onto The wall...that's a lot of work And then having the BBC person come in afterwards and then putting another poster over so it covers up a little bit Um yeah no there is no way this bullcrap This just reeks of bull crap But all the sites you know your usual suspects are all over

2:12:24 This is to me... It's real! This is, to me, the marginalization of alternative sources. Yes this is exactly what you wrote in the newsletter it's exactly what it is yeah it's to make everybody put everybody in the same pot oh these guys are nuts and I'll take a one step further that I believe these things are introduced specifically for that reason and look at where its coming from Yeah, right these sources exactly yeah if people want to look at you see who the sources are you go and do a search on that picture? And and then look for the recent post and you'll see this You know free republic prison planet two or three of these other guys that are always You know all in with any anti-government propaganda To make everybody did what is really does is marginalize all the alternative sources of information. That might be very accurate

2:13:28 And that is the mission. Yeah, it's the mission they probably fronts one more or just do you have to make up your mind? What are they doing it on purpose? Are they doing it just to sell seeds what are they doing it for? They do it unquestionably. They don't even really suggest its a hoax To me It has been done discredit all alternative forms of media. And I've received this email and links about this over and over and over again, please people think for a second here is really... Yeah, I'm always disappointed when no agenda listeners who at least with any standing in other words they've seen listen to the show more than two shows send stuff like that in yeah

CHAPTER 41 / 48 Discussion

Texas Self-Rape Law Hoax, Snopes, 911 Call Fabrication

A viral story about a Texas mother turning in her son for "self-rape" (masturbation) under a new state law is debunked as a complete fabrication. The hosts point out that the story, which appeared on sites like Change.org and YouTube, included a poorly acted 911 call. They express concern over the increasing amount of fabricated news designed to provoke emotional reactions.

texas· self-rape· hoax· snopes· 911 call

2:14:21 On one of the sites they also had this story, which I don't have a clip or there's no clip. But on one of these sites it was... Anyway, they had another story of the mom who turned in the kid...and this is in Snopes. This doesn't take a genius to figure out this is bullcrap. The mom who turned in her...Texas again I think. Mom turned in her kid for masturbating under new Texas law against self-rape. Wait a minute. What law is this? Yeah, well that's the point there is no law it's bullcrap But they play it straight let's see you can find it. Oh, I shouldn't be too hard snake self-rape yeah You find out in the net not on Snopes right so says okay Christians warranted Christians are also queerty calm Christians were warned against self rape and

2:15:18 Mom call here it is the YouTube. It's a YouTube video to mom calls 911 own son boy charged with new self-rape law Self rape on change org yeah, that's everyone masturbate somebody's changed org really they fall for this Yeah, now it's pretty sad almost like let me find this oh there's Arizona It was Arizona self rape law if you type in did search it just self Got it. This is a video that goes with this let's see what the video says the video in 58 seconds So that should be good or if it was just an ad no oh hold on what happened? Oh, man What happened here I know it's not playing I hear something yeah No You don't hear right come on what the hell happened there. Oh, I'm sorry It's playing through the speaker. It's not okay everything's frozen Now you can't do anything on that Mac. It's

2:16:25 I don't know. It's not funny! You want to stop the tape? No, no no no...I just want to get this going and just take a second Okay here is an interesting one This is actually on PubMed I have it if you want to take a second Yeah when I hear that Okay It was playing through the regular speaker That's my fault okay But now something happening with the mouse its getting stuck I dont understand why Probably something loading on your machine A Phoenix boys behind bars tonight turned in by his own mother state. Oh, what is this crap? It's just like change that orgs own news report or something lame

2:17:13 Oh. That's bull! That's bull, that's not real... It's completely fabricated. This is bullshit I think it's alarming. Yes! That they would fabricate the 911 call... Well, it was poorly done let's put it that way. Oh man, I'm worried about this and just hope we get to the end of the show all right close that out who knows what's going on back to that NPR interview with the president he did something very unexpected when asked about

CHAPTER 42 / 48 Discussion

Shanghai Port Expansion, High-Speed Rail, China Logistics

The fourth phase of the Yangtze Deepwater Port in Shanghai is set to reach a capacity of 40 million units annually, rivaling the production rate of the entire United States. This massive expansion is linked to China's "New Silk Road" strategy, which includes a proposed high-speed railway between Moscow and Beijing. The hosts discuss the logistical dominance China is building to ship goods globally.

shanghai· yangtze port· high-speed rail· beijing· logistics

2:18:10 The terrorists and on the international front even as we're managing ISIL and Trying to roll them back and ultimately defeat them Even as we've been executing the drawdown in Afghanistan in a responsible way. Why is he not saying dash? No, why is he back to ISIL everyone's using dash? No, they're not. Yes! The State Department the Pentagon they're all using Dash you remember we had all these clips? Yeah but okay maybe I don't know if everyone's...I'm just trying to figure out Maybe Ezra Obama uses Dash Well they need to brief both of them Huh I know yeah these are things that bother me iIm sorry I don't know Here's a bothers here's what bothers me is a clip well back to the other thing by the way there is some multiple personality self-rape

2:19:07 Is that is that illegal? No, it's not illegal. It's just a condition apparently with people that are nuts I think I've suffered from that time to time I like you hand My gray play this one new shit really is Wow New Shanghai boat port new Shanghai Port We stay in Shanghai where the city is starting the fourth phase of the Yangtze Deepwater Port. The port handling capacity will reach 6.3 million containers by 2017 when it's complete. The fourth phase will adopt a latest automatic system to manage the port. The advantage of an automatic system will allow a larger capacity of containers and after the completion of the fourth phase, the Shanghai port will have an annual capacity at 40 million 20-foot units

2:20:00 the standard unit for describing a ship's cargo carrying capacity. The number will be the annual production rate of the entire United States, sharing one-tenth of the world's annual rates." Wow! So this is one port? That's nasty... These guys are serious about destroying us Does this fit in that Russia is going to build a new high speed railway between Moscow and Beijing I don't know probably everything seems to be connected We know about the high-speed rail running the south route. Yes, all the way into Europe Yeah They can't get that crap out of China and it's good country is not even at full employment Where's Shanghai? Shanghai is up and on the coast more or less but in relation to Beijing where she is It's on this I think it's on the same parallel Let me just take a look at the map

2:21:01 Because this railroad they're talking about, which I guess would be part of the new Silk Road. Pretty important manufacturing centers of China are not in Beijing? No no but we know that it's always oh yes and it would be great for everyone who lives in Beijing but we know is bullcrap It's all about the goods that they can ship Let me see Shanghai is there It's very short ride by the way Very short airplane right from Vancouver Really? Yeah, I would recommend people if you live in Vancouver. I just go to Shanghai for the weekend really yeah This is interesting how do you let me see from Vancouver oh I see yeah of course I've taken that route It's like it's very short right I was not shorter but shorter than going to London it's like I think it's six seven hours from Vancouver or six maybe okay

CHAPTER 43 / 48 Discussion

Student Loan Crisis, Mark Cuban, Federal Monopoly

Mark Cuban's comments on the student loan crisis spark a discussion about the federal government's $806 billion monopoly on student debt. The hosts trace this shift back to the 2010 Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act. They share anecdotes about young professionals unable to afford housing due to massive loan payments and discuss the "government service" path to debt forgiveness.

student loans· mark cuban· u.s. treasury· obamacare· debt

2:22:08 We had a Twitter conversation. I say you should, you had a Twitter conversation. I was along for the ride and whenever I said something no one responded so... I guess I'm blocked with Mark Cuban. This is interesting Mark Cuban has been out and about saying The way to, what was he saying? The big crisis is the student loans. And if you want to fix the economy limit the amount of basically free money that government is handing out to students to...so that more money can go into the economy. I think that's kind of what he said, and then there was this conversation about the endowments and how much money these universities really have which is just hundreds of millions of dollars. Billions? Billions! Not hundreds but billions. Harvard is 30 billion plus. Billions of dollars. And although I'm not sure if Cubans

2:23:04 thesis is correct, that it will change anything. I dug up this quick backgrounder on what has happened since the government is now securing these loans for students? We now have...the federal government has a monopoly over direct student loans. They used to have loans that private banks and lenders would put out and would be guaranteed by the federal government starting in July 2010 thanks to language that was in the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act which was part of the Obamacare law. The federal government only loans some money directly to students, so that $806 billion are loans that the federal government has made for students to go to school. That's money owed to the U.S. Treasury." 800 billion? Yeah! Wow... Well they'll get it back unless you volunteer for service. You can't ever own a home or do anything they're supposed to do

2:24:02 We had a guy who's about 30 years old, he was working at Mevio. He was one of the operators of the TriCaster and some other stuff. Oh what's his name? Yeah that guy. And I said so where do you live... somehow in the conversation he says this guys like thirty late 20s at least. He's living, yeah he's bitching about something, he was bitchin' about his roommates plural there's four or three of four guys living in this small place and he's moaning about it I said why don't you get your own places? I can't afford it so why? He says student loans apparently all the money made at Mevio had to go pay off his loans and he just didn't have any money and this goes on he says I don't know when am ever gonna pay it off

2:24:46 Well, this is like all the kids in LA who are Christina's friends. Um... They'd- none of them want to be on a real payroll job they want to do all kinds of gigs I guess you call it because the minute they get on some kind of payroll they show up that's when you know the government comes in to take the money back yeah so they just want you know they just wanted little gigs freelance type stuff goofing around my advice these kids You're down in LA, there's a lot of opportunities down there for what I'm going to describe. Fake social security number and false ID with a different name. You can get the social security number for some dead guy whatever the case is

2:25:28 And then you can make some money and then the worst that can happen, you get busted for false identity. What is that going to amount? I don't know if they can be good. It might be bad at some point. You're going to flip it and flip it. We go out. I'm gonna beat myself again and ditch all the other characters. The obvious people, the obvious out is go into government service. That's how do you do what does in five years than 30% of your loan goes away. If you do it for 10 years 50% of your loans are for the government for the rest of your life. Just a bad gig. Yeah, yes that would be correct exactly right except you have to work with douchebag managers Like the government worker the classic bad manager is in the government This is yeah pretty much a known fact what is coming up this week John? What does uh what do we gotta be looking for when does everyone get back in session Is that coming out because I'm so tired of nothing going on and

CHAPTER 44 / 48 Discussion

Congressional Committees, Lobbyist Staffers, Harry Reid Accident

The appointment of lobbyist Jeff Shockey as staff director for the House Intelligence Committee is criticized as a sign of ongoing corruption in the new Republican-led Congress. Shockey's ties to Academy and Koch Industries are highlighted. Additionally, the segment covers Senator Harry Reid's recent exercise accident, which resulted in broken facial bones and ribs, prompting skepticism about the official story.

devin nunes· jeff shockey· harry reid· lobbying· corruption

2:26:25 I mean, I need some legislation to read. I need some documents... Yeah, it's been terrible and I think the show is suffering. Let's see. Well, I wouldn't say that. Well okay but it's not really suffering legislative we always have good stuff. Legislature... I know in Austin they get back the legislature this coming week I met a lobbyist the other day. I think they're coming back just in time to switch over to the new guys Yeah, oh yeah there's a lot of stuff that has to be done It's gotta be this month some point maybe in the next few weeks well what will be happening? This was kind of funny to see we have new committees and

2:27:17 You know, new people running it. We talked about that douchebag from Texas who... what's his name? Hurd. Did you ever look into him? Will Hurd? No. I've been meaning to. Congressman Devin Nunes, I presume that is how you pronounce it. N-U-N-E-S. Nunes who was from California a Republican he will be the incoming chairman of the Intelligence Committee and he announced that Jeff Schake Will be the new staff director of the committee. Shockey is a lobbyist for Academy. What? Yeah!

2:28:01 Wow. Yeah, but his firm not a huge one but is her these guys going to win as the public was illegal? These guys out yeah Probably I don't know His firm earned $80,000 in 2014 It's no much you know it's at this small time But still that he's going to be staff director of the intelligence committee guarantee that the money number will go up Yeah He also represent and if he represents or it must be represented General Dynamics. Oh, of course our favorite Koch Industries. Northrop Grumman. What's his first name? His name is Jeff Schockey S-H-O-C-K-E-Y Also there was no Matt and Marie show there were no briefings everyone just effed off you know for that left us hanging US lobbyist and congressional staffer

2:29:00 Almost his entire career has been spent either working for a Jerry Lewis representative or the former representative Bill Lowry's lobbying firm, Copeland-Lowry, Giacaz, Denton & White. He is in the middle of a federal investigation. Well that doesn't sound right! Perfect time to bring a guy in! Allegations of corruption... Wow Well, there you go. It's the Republicans' turn! Shadow puppet theater! Don't think they're any better than the Democrats. They just as shitty. Yep. All right so Elite News Real News Harry... What's his face? Reid? Harry Reid? Yeah he had a pretty bad accident No I didn't know that His face... Facial bones broken I missed this Okay so here is the excuse du jour

CHAPTER 45 / 48 Discussion

International Criminal Court, Palestine, Prince Andrew Scandal

The Palestinian Authority has signed the Rome Statute to join the International Criminal Court, aiming to prosecute Israeli officials. The hosts note the ICC's lack of actual convictions. The segment also touches on the resurfacing of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal involving Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton, questioning why certain high-profile names are being protected in the headlines.

icc· palestine· prince andrew· jeffrey epstein· bill clinton

2:29:53 Harry read actually hold on well you can read it I can share it with the dog Broke his ribs and facial bones when a piece of exercise equipment malfunctioned That's what they call it Exercise equipment malfunction during workout at his Nevada home From what I understand it was one of those rubber bands and the rubber band snapped And then he fell and then something fell on top him, but he broke his face. That doesn't sound right? It doesn't sound right at all most those rubber bands as far as I know that's not gonna happen. I know that's the case with many of them when they break They don't break violently no But even even even though things breaking I don't think I have ever really heard of that happening Do you think a number of ribs and bones this is maybe just a message

2:30:43 This is definitely a message Wow, huh? But he's outgoing. He's getting going yet, but he's still gonna be in office of course of course Let's see what else oh yeah the Also just I'm trying to get some analysis on you can't go to a website and look at anything before some damn video starts playing Oh Yeah, well you gotta use ghostory or someone those blockers Yeah, that's interesting. Harry Reid got beat up the first thing I thought was like a beat down to because all the face and a rib get couple of rib shots with a baseball bat and then punch him punch punch punch with a brass knuckles no kneecap huh but yeah next he is in Nevada after all i think that i think someone roughed them up yeah it's what i think it could be from some nevada politics though nevada could be local

2:31:44 This international criminal court is back in the news again with He also had bruising around the eyes Just exercise equipment everybody mom locate his shoulder no. No wait a minute. I'm sorry this is 2011 He also suffered major in injuries while slipping and falling in the rain while running outside his Washington Oh, yeah a boat resulting at dislocated shoulder and it brews around his left eye This guy's Magnet for something Wow that's cool. Yeah politics getting hard and heavy yeah I guess so the Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas signed the Rome Statute

2:32:31 Which means the Palestinian Authority now is a member of the International Criminal Court. And that will be their idea with this, of course, is to take Israeli officials to international criminal court. This thing is very...and let us reiterate no one has ever been convicted in international criminal court. I think there's not a single case. It was just a threat and one of these days. Yeah One of these days. One of these days and it's going to be something screwy like they're gonna take the international court and they're gonna make it so that Euro has to abide by it, then the Europeans will be... George Bush gets arrested. I tell you... No, no. It won't be for that. It will be for citizens who use the internet to bully people. Maybe send you to the International Criminal Court

2:33:32 Well, I don't see Dick Cheney in any hurry to go visit France. That's for sure and then this non story which I'm surprised everyone kept sending this Prince Andrew Jeffrey Epstein This is two years old this story that this Epstein had underage girls and Clinton was there too. This is an old story, I don't know why it cropped up again Why is Clinton not being named again? He was there! The article I read he was named Yeah but the headline is Prince Andrew yeah well Clinton's a good man yes he is uh this uh Epstein's no good though man what a douche knuckle And he's a pimp If only everybody knew how things really really work

CHAPTER 46 / 48 Discussion

Asus Phone Tease, Morse Code, Ham Radio

A new Asus phone advertisement is noted for using Morse code to tease an "optical zoom" feature. The hosts find it unusual to use such a niche communication method for a mass-market product. This leads to a brief update on ham radio conditions and a successful long-distance "sideband" transmission to Honolulu.

asus· morse code· ham radio· optical zoom· marketing

2:34:19 If only we could get some of that once in a while. That's not gonna happen Besides that, it probably comes in with the little Harry Reid action We don't need that I have a... Oh actually I do have a hmm Just because its Sunday Are you going up today? No I'm going 11th Okay, this is just a commercial that I uh that I heard when I saw this commercial. I heard it my ears perked up That is part of the new commercial a tease for the brand-new Asus phone now of course what did you say well? I had to listen to it a couple times because going pretty fast and me and it's not really a standard tone Optical zoom

2:35:23 is what that spells out. Oh, optical zoom? All right! I found it fascinating that they used Morse code in a tease just to get the worst kind of nerd... I mean seriously hams are cheap bastards yeah hams are gonna buy that phone why would you do this free or does this to get kids go hey wait a minute there's morse code i can probably find a translator on i don't know why would they do this maybe maybe to promote the use of morse code this is what you've been doing i wish You've been promoting it. I got all the way to Honolulu on sideband with a new test i'm doing with an indoor antenna you're gonna get a QSL card yeah heck yeah, yeah um 10 meter band has been off the hook conditions are great John skip is everywhere huh alright give me something to play out man let's go i'm falling apart here

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Syrian Migrant Ship, Human Trafficking, Italian Welcome Centers

The cargo ship Ezzedine, carrying 360 Syrian migrants, was abandoned by its crew in the Mediterranean and left on autopilot toward the Italian coast. The migrants reportedly paid human traffickers between $3,000 and $7,000 each for the journey. Italy has placed the survivors in "welcome centers," highlighting the country's ongoing struggle with mass migration and its declining birth rate.

syria· italy· migrants· human trafficking· ezzedine

2:36:19 Well, here's the migrants on the boat story which has a number of little details I found fascinating. With Europe being a preferred option for some Syrian refugees but this inevitably puts a strain on host nations Italy is now processing the 360 Syrian migrants who survived a five-day ordeal aboard the cattle transporter Ezzedine which had been abandoned by its crew to recount an incredibly difficult journey The Yazdine lies finally in dock. The blankets of its migrant passengers strewn across the deck, but you need to go inside to get a proper look at the terrible conditions on board. The Yazidine is equipped to transport cattle with cages open to the outside 360 people crowded in here and they're cold and wet personal belongings lie abandoned A stairwell is littered with rubbish downstairs the hold

2:37:15 where many of the travelers huddled in darkness. The crew abandoned ship mid-sea, leaving the bridge ransacked. Arriving in the south of Italy on Friday night, the migrants were tired but relieved. The passengers all from Syria were finally on dry land. The evacuation took more than three hours... ...the end of an ordeal How was the trip? It's very difficult. From 11 days. From 11 days? From 11 days. Families traveling together, many of them with babies. These people have gone five days without eating, without any electricity. It was really grueling. Many passengers say they boarded in Mersin in Turkey. Human traffickers had organized the trip

2:38:03 at a cost of several thousand dollars each. I paid three thousand dollars. I paid seven thousand. Italian authorities have now taken the migrants to be housed in welcome centres spread throughout the country Wow. Welcome centers, man that's new world order double speak? Yeah it is what I'd say and in tournament camps more like it whatever the case...I thought this was the most interesting ski so you buy this probably as a salvage boat that was a cattle carrier these guys make like two million euros doing this

2:38:39 No, they had 300 people in the $7000 a pop that would be... I'm just reiterating Dutch news stories we've been talking about. Oh okay well maybe it was 2 million whatever the case They buy an old piece of crap, which is a cattle carrier and load all these people in for between $3,000 to $7,000 up ahead. And then they all get in and then they just start shipping them across the ocean or waters. It's a big boat it's not like one of these junkers, a little ferry or anything I guess that seaworthy. And then they abandon ship and sit halfway through? I guess another boat pull up alongside and they all bailed out. They stole what they wanted from the...

2:39:16 And then they jump on the little other boat and off they go. The boats now adrift in the middle of the Mediterranean... Actually, I heard that it was not a drift. They had it on some form autopilot and it was steering towards the Italian coast. Well with no pilot nobody on it. It was still called out adrift but yeah that makes sense. I guess the Italians got wind of what was going on and got somebody on board that stopped the damn thing. It was coming close toward the, I guess reefs or something? Or whatever some rocks and... I mean, this is a story in Italy because Willow talks about this all the time whenever we email. Especially Lampedusa and people have no idea that Netherlands is turning people away and Italy...I have to say they're just like okay well we can't let these people just die so they keep bringing them in. You know Italians need immigration big time

2:40:12 They have the worst population numbers. They need these people there to do the jobs that no one can do and they're not having babies! It's a dead country." Wow... I think it is probably a positive thing for Italy Do you think they are having lots of sex though? On the boat? No, Italians on the boat. I would assume no babies. They're probably having lots of sex or hedonistic sex. No baby wanted Yeah this is but this is and these people are from Syria think there's some mostly Syria also coming from Libya still or only Syria must be about that they Portrayed as Syria But then it was taking place this whole scam was being done in Turkey so turkey somehow behind it

CHAPTER 48 / 48 Discussion

Show Wrap-up, AirAsia Investigation, Sign-off

The hosts conclude the episode by teasing an upcoming investigation into the AirAsia flight disappearance and mocking the "cross-disciplinary polymorphic analysis" jargon once more. They sign off from "FEMA Region 6" in Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. The show ends with a series of soundbites and a final "Adios mofo."

airasia· aviation· cross-disciplinary analysis· sign-off· isis

2:40:57 Yeah, they don't want these refugees You know the Italians and no turkey is notorious from that just stay there see that line stay on that side of the line No Turkey not really nice when it comes to that. Where's Angelina Jolie? She should bow out there she's the high representative for the evacuees and refugees now She's working on a movie. Yes, you got the chicken pox All righty everybody Luckily, legislature's come back. Things will be happening and I'm keeping my eye on Greece? I have still have some doubts about this Air Asia... I'm working on it- don't want to say anything yet because i dont wanna sound stupid but This the CEO is a little irksome You know what I mean No, I know what you mean. I haven't no idea what she talking about Okay well im working on some stuff aviation stuff And of course

2:42:00 As always, we will be using cross-disciplinary polymorphic analysis made possible by the analytics of the fusion of big data and analytical systems. That will solve all attribution and we'll do that for you on Thursday right here on The No Agenda Show Absolutely With some skip logic Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. Dvorak, we'll talk to you again Thursday remember us at dvorak dot org slash na We'll be back Thursday right here on no agenda Isis We will follow them Isis It's real resist we much? We must and we will much about That be committed it's real

2:43:14 rule follower so if the rule is that we have to do it then I'll do it. Oh, IT'S REAL! It was worth it...it was worth it. Adios mofo.