Common Sense Fact

00:00 Shake-in and bacon in that thing. Playing with my instruments again here at the South Austin Safe House in FEMA Region 6, here in the capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I am much less enthusiastic but I'm still here, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! Okay, what is it nothing? I just said that's you're very enthusiastic You play a little Freddie Mercury and the next thing you know your old jack actually. I played eight Beatles tracks on the pre stream today No, that's why I got all jacked up this does some good stuff

00:50 Yeah, well. You never were a Beatles fan were you? I was always a Beatles fan! I was an original Beatles fan when i was in school when the Beatles first showed up as a huge Beatles fan and then it went through the whole Beatles thing again all their albums as they came out As they came out, when they came out I bought one. Let me add something... And I got sick of them after all these years! But you know what? But I think still it's-I'm a second generation Beatles fan. I came in as the first generations Beatles fan huge Beatles fans. I came in on The Red and The Blue albums remember those two double albums which is kind of like compilations? I don't even remember those Now here of course is the obvious question

01:34 John or Paul what about John or plus I thought that with that here's what my thinking was. I thought both of them work together Great as a team your big-team guy And I thought they only worked together steam even though much of their you know with the best material Was written by probably by John and tempered by Paul are written by Paul and tempered by John or beefed up by John He was the more radical of the two in terms of his songwriting is opposed just this simple love songs, right? But if it wasn't for Paul the band wouldn't exist Yeah, I agree. But Paul's solo has always been very difficult for me but I can't go to a Paul McCartney show and get really enthusiastic. I thought his solos during the Beatles era were a little sappy. And the whole Wings thing... In fact wasn't it? I think it was Wings was the first time we had an isolated microphone prank or gag that circled around radio stations

02:34 And it was of Linda. Do you remember that? No, I don't and you can tell me about it! So he was on the road with Wings and Linda...and everyone's like oh well Linda has to play tambourine and sing back up Oh really? Oh really?! And they ISO'd her microphone or at least that what they said it was. Well I vaguely remember this Yeah and it was really horribly off-key Yeah yeah I think you could do...yeah I remember that But everybody believed, at least here in the United States... It's a great gag. Yeah but everyone also believed it was kind of messed with you know as it was... Of course! It was tweaked.

03:15 But anyway, I just you know, I play like eight different song here's what I played. I'll tell you and and you just kind of amazed when You just hear these songs. So I played We can work it out eight days a week come together Hello goodbye help revolution in my life and become these are great songs Huh? It figures you'd play those What does that mean I'm not the good ones I'm a hit driven boy Those aren't the big hits Why don't you play no agenda type Beatles songs? Like the Taxman, there's a good tune. Now we've played that a lot! Okay well that's one... You got one no agenda tune right I'm sure there are others Revolution is not a No Agenda song? I don't think so. Alright then It's a corny... That's an example of Lennon's cornball material Well there ya go Cornball or us here in Austin

04:12 Hey, talking about that... I didn't get my whole line a second. Well here's an interesting story that is kind of Texas related at least the punchline is Texas. I never heard of this. This is called coaling or something like you know? You've heard of this? It's just something I think the French dreamed up for somebody spoofed them or maybe I'm wrong and maybe some Texans can chime in and say oh you're completely out of it DeVryk! That's what old age does Play this clip from France 24 that's called Coaling or something. Oh, we see here isn't about to give up the ghost its owner is coal rolling deliberately revving a modified engine to full power in order to spew thick black smoke from the exhaust. Coal rollers say they're protesting against environmental measures introduced by the Obama administration and their exploits have gone viral

05:03 But a growing number of owners of these tampered with trucks are blowing their smoke at other motorists, cyclists and pedestrians and posting the video to YouTube. Much to the outrage of countless social networkers Co-rolling victims have been sharing accounts online and while the majority of web users condemn the practice Describing it as extremely stupid others say it's not a new craze And unfortunately has been around in the southern US for quite some years. I Don't think I've ever heard of this John

05:44 I've never heard of it either. I think the French have been pranked, but play it out because there's a punchline here. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has posted a message to its website reminding citizens that it is in fact illegal to tamper with or remove emission control devices from vehicles But as journalist Dylan Baudot points out not every state respects this law singling out Texas in particular Which doesn't require emissions testings for diesel engines of co-writers By the way, how can you watch that crap on France 24 with that hokey ass shitty production music? It's annoying it is annoying I didn't say it wasn't annoying so this is clearly material like that. That's why do it That's a great story. I've never heard of this as anybody we have a lot at Texas listeners a lot and

06:36 Somebody feed back to us that this is actually something that goes on. I've been here for almost three years, I've never heard of this This is nuts Yeah, I've never heard of it and I'm in car country California But it sounds like a slam against Texas not Not having as Restrictions on diesel or something possible EPA stuff Possible now the EPA my I'm not allowed to talk about him sorry We're not just part of the show. No, but I had thought that...I just thought this was a prank it was played on France 24 and i could be wrong but this is not a phenomenon! Not that I'm aware of, no. But then again I don't get out much you get out enough really you'd be getting it off the local news if it was going on I don't even watch local news well your pathetic Well thanks

07:27 Buddy, you're supposed to be keeping up with Texas culture while you're there I'm doing my best before you move to like next your next location. I got a Facebook message from your wife Oh No You guys move more than my dog moves his bowels what yeah exactly you know about you moving She's gotta work on her material now mister joke Public she said that in public at least on the face books And she doesn't have a dog, she's got like five. And another cat died! Like everyone is dying up there man... Please don't go up there for awhile. What cat would die? I dunno, the old one. You talking about Zoey? Yeah i think it was Zoey Oh Zoey yeah, she has been down in her last legs for awhile Well she's gone just so you know Sorry to inform you but she's gone No I know that, everyone knows Zoey is dead

08:17 Don't fact. Don't fact on the West Coast unlike your coal rolling story I had no idea Fact! On the best podcast in the universe That's right FACT! It was unaware, sorry Now we're all up to speed on the Dvorak Zoo My goodness Well, I think that next one is going to be The Donkey Okay, please don't tell me there's actually a donkey up there. It wouldn't surprise you. No it's actually a burro. Of course! Well of course I paid...it was quite interesting and in many ways very strange to see CNN pretty much spend the entire day yesterday live from the Netherlands with um i thought just the most inappropriate

09:13 commentary from Anderson Pooper and the dildo in my boot rope around my testicles guy. I'm getting a little tired of seeing Richard Quest as the aviation expert on CNN. I don't know how he became one! He used to be the goofball reporter from Europe Yeah, he was the goofball business guy who would do trips and stand-up but I know what happened because it was traveling on airlines so much that he got to know a little bit about what's going on and uh because I met him once in this trap hey just because you travel on airlines does not make it that's it. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that's why he's the aviation expert think about this here's here's a point if you remember the early year still old enough to remember the early days of like the ma the apple 2 and then oh yeah

09:59 S100. When the early computers came out, when everyone was deciding to get a good...when businesses were deciding to get a computer they'd find someone in the office who owned an Apple II didn't know anything about computers and now they're the expert! They were promoted to computer experts because they owned an Apple II. And typically... Dude named Ben. His name was Ben They could be. Yeah, that's where it started Well I remember at MTV when i first arrived in 1980s and there was 86-87 then I had a Mac plus and I was on The Source and Prodigy. Oh the source! Yeah remember The Source? Was the source still in business when the mac came out? Didn't this... well Vienna Online was the precursor to AOL

10:45 I was on that and then this is where i got my first slip account and learned how to you know get on the... Learned how to how to get tail nut into my shell, fire up a gopher session. But at MTV they were using a Wang Wang system this was the word processor more than anything, but it had a central processor Which was typically you when someone said Wang. It was followed by is down that was The Wang is down But all they do is they print out big uppercase letters for the teleprompter, which I know we've talked about it before but it's fun to mention it. Which was a conveyor belt with a camera hovered over that guy literally fed pieces of paper with printed text that was then displayed in the teleprompter

11:37 The good old days. Boy, that's pathetic yeah! Lower thirds you had a lower third camera do you remember that? You had and you had a black title card is what it was called they still call the title card in the digital world I think if you look at uh... you know the new switchers like the what is that the TriCaster this it's still called the title card then its a black card and has of the graphics imprinted on it or sometimes hand-drawn and they'd put that under a title camera, and that would be superimposed lower third. And that was how he brought in lower third graphics! Hell yeah! Those days are over... Yeah but it's fun to reminisce a little bit You're right, It's not okay so No it is I mean I think it's interesting I think people are interested in these old you know you might as well do like Mickey Rooney He'd be good with these stories. Look where we got him Go on

12:30 So what was your point? Well, no I was just gonna say that this it was very interesting because I have grown up in the Netherlands. I know the Netherlands very well to see the coverage here in the United States To see Just about everybody we know and that's why I was on I was cruising through the social media which is my version of admitting that I have a Facebook account And everyone had indeed changed their icon to a black ribbon with, you know, Never Forget, AMH 17 or something. And it's... there was a national day of mourning. Then they had a military ceremony! Were these people military? No this is- so what has happened here is the distraction was so well orchestrated and so well done that everyone was only focused on the deceased and not at all about

13:26 what happened, how it happened the political ramifications the geopolitical ramifications and the truth really is not being reported at all in The Netherlands which we'll get to in a moment. The truth about the 400 year special relationship and the four hundred-year friendship between Russia and The Netherlands but a lot of things have come out that I think are very important to discuss first just to add on to our analysis of the radar spoofing. So now we have received reports everywhere that there was a Ukrainian Su-25 fighter within 5 kilometers behind the aircraft and it was kind of interesting because someone sent me an email

14:07 and said, uh this is bullcrap! Look at the stats. It only has a ceiling of 28 000 feet so it couldn't be up 33 000 feet what? A 777? No no no the Su-25 the Ukrainian jet The fighter jet What?! Yeah yeah that's nonsense... No it's not nonsense It only goes to 25 000 feet? Hold on a second This is where people make the mistake between a ceiling and max operating altitude. There's two different things, so the ceiling is where that limit kicks in where the aircraft will not increase altitude at least 100 feet per minute

14:51 And yeah, with these smaller wings and stuff. Absolutely! Have you seen the SU-25? It kind of looks like someone put it together in their garage... I mean it's not a great looking aircraft. It has been around for a long time but it has and this is what really nailed it for me. It has a max operating altitude of 33 000 feet And when you take into account that the Ukraine air traffic controller requested MH17 descend from 3500 to 33... 35,000. ...35,000 to 33,000 which is just at the top of the range for the radar spoofing it kind of adds to the analysis

15:33 What controller was this? Ukrainian. I mean, you can see it on all the flight data tracking that it was at 35000 and descended to 33. That's why it was a 33 because that's the max operating ceiling of the SU-25. Yeah exactly but I think we're done with with the analysis... I don't think there is much more to say. You have couple things to add in terms of what else is kind of fishy about the whole thing Well, and why the flight may have been chosen. Sure I have a number of things as well but let me do a couple of things here first of all i want to get back To the point that we've made a number of times which is that it's important in the United States? to maintain The world's currency correct Which is and which is we the reserve currency which all

16:23 necessary things are... This allows us to have huge debts that we don't have to worry about. And it keeps the economy... Most of the world's in a pretty bad depression and we're just muddling through okay, largely because of the debt. Just getting by. We're getting by And so when people and we've noticed this before one of the themes of the show is actually when somebody threatens to To go off Bypass or do something about the world currency which has been now done as we reported with the Russia the bricks. Mm-hmm

17:01 You have to go after these guys like they did with Gaddafi. Gaddafi was everybody's buddy, meetings and everything was going on... Everybody was in his tent! Everybody was hanging out and then he said oh let's do a gold dinar for all of northern Africa And that didn't sit well but we can go back to 2003 Saddam Hussein who wanted to sell oil in I think it was euros So, you would have this situation. So the Russians...this is the whole idea of Russia going after Russia for its... Involvement in this we can't have that and this is very important that we send the message to everybody And one of the things we have to do is get Europe to help us pull this off even though they're very Reluctant to do so. So what country would be? The one that would be the hardest to get over because there you think Germany's got a strong connection No, it would be

18:01 The Netherlands who after China is the number one business partner of Russia. Yes, a lot of people don't realize that so play the Holland and Russia clip and then we'll go on I got one other little kicker Yeah well you're leading me right into my analysis. Yes, I'm sure I am. Now some EU meetings going on today about fresh sanctions that could be imposed on Russia That's right there has been criticisms that Brussels has been sparing Moscow from tougher sanctions for this sake of economic ties Now let's look at three key economies in Europe and how their trade has changed with Russia since 1999. Germany's main exports to Russia are cars, trains and medicine while about a third of its oil and gas comes from Russia. There are about 6,000 German companies registered in Russia and together they've invested 20 billion euros in recent years

18:52 So Germany may be one of Europe's most influential countries and the fact that it is roughly three times more tied to Russia than the UK may explain why Britain has been more aggressive in pushing sanctions. As we can see, the UK principal export is cars but its very low in terms of overall imports and it's also the largest export coming from Russia is oil and gas. Now meanwhile another country to look at is the Netherlands, a Dutch government that is under enormous pressure to take a tough stance since 193 of its citizens were on board flight MH17 But we can see it has become Europe's largest recipient of Russian exports, while it sends exports to Russia such as agriculture mainly flowers and also technology. So we can see some of the things binding these economies to Russia limiting and changing the debate about what sanctions they could take against their country. All right allow me to jump in here

19:49 The Netherlands is the largest importer but also simultaneously the exporter. You see, the Netherlands... The largest exporter in EU? Yes because the Netherlands all they are is a a storage point and there's two spots, and it is all with...all these dealings are with Russia. So one is Russian oil which is shipped down to the port of Rotterdam which has the 24 meter depth that you need to really do the big deep water loading of oil tankers which are then subsequently sent off to China

20:26 And then you have the gas storage, which is in the northern part of the Netherlands. You know where they have all these earthquakes all the time? So they store Gazprom Gas up under the ground in the Huss Unie. This actually started like 10 or 15 years ago when they knew that we're going to run out of gas there and said let's start doing some business with Russia and will store all that gas underneath our old reserve spot Now add to that The Netherlands is of course known for the Dutch reach around, which I have always enjoyed. Which is the tax haven that it is and this is why you have Apple and Amazon and eBay and Microsoft and everybody has their BV's or their NV's often in the Netherlands and the banks there just one Gazprom account is estimated at 54 billion euros

21:22 Now that is not the only reason why the Netherlands is attractive and I have talked about this, about the legal system where they have... The judges are professional judges. These are not appointed by the president or anything like that and you also have substitute judges which are typically lawyers from a law firm which you can hire And I have been in court several times in the Netherlands, and it's very disconcerting and very sad when you see that someone can hire a very high-profile law firm whose one of their lawyers may be a substitute judge sitting on the bench. And I'm pretty sure it's a very corrupt system but there is a famous case which took place also 15 years ago of a Russian oligarch

22:13 who in Russia was essentially said, we're going to seize all your assets in the Netherlands. We're going to throw you in jail and the Dutch court overturned that and gave the guy safe haven and gave him all his money in the Netherlands so all the Russians were like this is the place to be! We can buy these guys off and this is only almost not known that this is what's going on. I don't think the population really realizes it, and this is why there are all these closed-door meetings and the government is freaking out because the elites of The Netherlands...they're all...and the Dutch state owns at least 50% of all of this oil & gas business

22:55 and the other 50% is all the asshole buddies of the politicians who go right into it. The politicians come in, they're on the boards of all these companies... It's a huge setup! It's all about oil and gas. And the Netherlands itself Actually, some reports say they lose money on this importing and exporting because all they're really doing is just passing the gas and oil on. But everybody in the middle? All the people running ships and storing the gas and digging trenches and dragging and all this business...they are making billions! And no one wants to upset the apple cart

23:31 And this is well known by, well certainly the United States. And then there's one other thing and then I'll shut up and you get to your next clip... There has been a call from the European Union particularly from our guy Juncker To create an energy union So we have a monetary union, they're trying to pull together political union. Now they want an energy union which would combine the European purchasing power of particularly gas and oil from Russia at one set price, because now you have every country pays a different price for different reasons. Well guess which countries really don't want to do that? That would be Germany and the Netherlands! Germany who has the Nord Stream pipeline with a third of their energy comes in from Russia through their own pipeline straight into Germany and then down through Germany on the Opel pipeline...and the Netherlands they have no- They don't want to lose money. They don't want

24:33 negotiated down. So this was a huge fucking message! Well, the message apparently could have gone even further with this little tidbit and again... I mean you know Russia claims is the CIA behind this whole thing and there's so many intelligence agencies it could be anybody but just beside the point if you wanted to send a message uh... you could send one by bringing by finding a way to bring down one of these planes whether it was in conjunction with the ukrainians which is our thesis or not and we whether we had any do that is you can't prove it but its suspicious and there was one very little tidbit wanted that they came up on the press conference with heartfelt have a clip from this as well he kept okay have a bunch of those has best comfort for the most recent one but this one here was the interesting one that was like

25:24 You want to send a message to the people that are in the BRIC organization trying to screw the USA out of his reserve currency status. Uh, you might want to bring a plane down but make it clear that there was other possibilities and play the question about Indian air Oh, sorry. Here we go. I did not have that one ready. Yep. On Ukraine itself? Yeah on Ukraine. Based on the intelligence information that you released yesterday and what you have been saying today it looks like it was a case of mistaken identity by the Ukrainian separatists that hit the Malaysian plane That's not what they said at all

26:01 That's what you are concluding, right? No. That is not what I said either. We don't know yet the intentions of the people who fired the SA-11 from pro Russian separatist controlled territory. They may have been targeting a civilian airline or Ukrainian fighter jet which they've done over a dozen times now either way they're clearly trying to kill people with an SA-11. So when the militia airlines were passing through that part, there was some other passenger planes which are crossing that area including one off Air India which is around 25 miles away from the militiamen planes and then plane carrying Indian Prime Minister was passed on one hour before that. I hadn't heard of that. Do you have any intelligence information about any of these planes where

26:47 could have been a target or could have been hit by this missile. I haven't heard that. Can you check? I'd like to stand up for Marie Harf here and say it's a little unfair that whenever their story is off, and they got no facts that they throw her out there. That's not fair! Well there's more to it than that...I don't want to go off track here but I wanna play one more clip then. Wait can I just jump in on the Indian Air thing? Yeah. I have a document from the European Cockpit Association Intelligence services knew that flying over Ukraine was dangerous. A small number of countries already, I'm reading directly from the document, already knew about the risks of a missile attack over eastern Ukraine before 17th July but kept this information to themselves and only told their own airline companies according to Niko Forbach, chairman of European Cockpit Association, that is the European Pilots' Association According to the ECA Airline Companies in the US

27:44 Canada, Canada, the United Kingdom France and Australia were quote warned of the fact they should fly over this region no matter at what altitude their planes could be target of acts of war. But this was not shared with KLM or Malaysia Airlines or others Which I would assume is Indian Air, one of them with the Prime Minister on board? Yes. That would have been interesting! But that's not a... you know if you're the prime minister this looks like a warning shot across the bowels. And so now and you're in on the Indian, you're in on this brick thing that should drop... These guys are gonna get there.. This is not going to end until they dropped this idea

28:27 of starting at their own reserve currency. The Chinese can go on their own as far as I'm concerned, it's just not going to end until... But you brought up, I just wanted to say you brought up Harf. Yes. Well I thought it was weird that Harf was out there now too and then I heard this question which again from a guy from Berkey. Oh okay And this is the WTF Jen Psaki question that to me said more than the answer told me says the reporters that Secretary Kerry expressed his uneasiness about

29:08 spokesperson Jen Psaki's totally false. Totally false? Yeah, Secretary stands behind everything Jen Psaki and hopefully I say from this podium particularly on this topic. You cannot understand or puzzle that on the one hand you say that the Kerry a secretary Kerry tells Foreign Minister Davutoglu and raised his worries, concerns over some rhetoric used in Turkey. And then on the other hand we hear from Turkish foreign minister that actually Secretary Kerry expressed his over- again easiness I just said it was false and i am the one who speaks for Secretary Kerry and conveys his thoughts and I can assure you that is not something he says

30:01 So, Psaki said something and apparently Kerry being the dick that he is mentioned this to somebody in Turkey one of the foreign ministers. And he reported it to the newspaper and now they're denying it as Psaki's out for the moment and this woman Harfizin I don't think has anything to do with during the tough questioning I think they've sidelined Psaki They've benched her out Could be. She's made a couple of mistakes that were not so great... But she was also, she was in Vienna doing the talks there covering that. She's like...she's trying to move up. She's trying to be the next noodleman. Now I will say that it looks like all eyes should be on Turkey right now big time because the alternative to...I kind of looked at the BCMs you know? The billions of cubic meters and stuff of these oil and we don't even have to look at Ukraine anymore John its over

30:58 It's just done and over. Now you only have to look at two, really three different routes. And I wasn't aware that the Nord Stream went right into Germany. Germany is a direct recipient of Russian gas. Direct recipient...it doesn't go through it. This is the one that goes Off the coast, they had to kill the whole... Yeah. The North Stream is the one way up there so yeah right just off the coast it's underwater I think. And they had to kill the whole Polish government so that they would shut up about it because they didn't actually participate? They ran the pipeline outside of Poland in the water? Yeah. So they had to kill them. That's where I think most of the gas goes through that thing. Yes! Exactly.

31:39 And I have the numbers here, but the big thing now is the trans-Adriatic pipeline. That needs to be completed and this is going to go through Turkey and that is not a Gazprom. This is all the Baku stuff. This is Turkmenistan... Where's Baku? Before you while you're working on that, can I just...I want to go back since you mentioned Holland. I just wanted to throw one thing in there earlier or the Netherlands and get people picky about this Did you know that Vladimir Putin's daughter lives in Holland? Yeah

30:58 It's just done and over. Now you only have to look at two, really three different routes. And I wasn't aware that the Nord Stream went right into Germany. Germany is a direct recipient of Russian gas. Direct recipient...it doesn't go through it. This is the one that goes Off the coast, they had to kill the whole... Yeah. The North Stream is the one way up there so yeah right just off the coast it's underwater I think. And they had to kill the whole Polish government so that they would shut up about it because they didn't actually participate? They ran the pipeline outside of Poland in the water? Yeah. So they had to kill them. That's where I think most of the gas goes through that thing. Yes! Exactly.

31:39 And I have the numbers here, but the big thing now is the trans-Adriatic pipeline. That needs to be completed and this is going to go through Turkey and that is not a Gazprom. This is all the Baku stuff. This is Turkmenistan... Where's Baku? Before you while you're working on that, can I just...I want to go back since you mentioned Holland. I just wanted to throw one thing in there earlier or the Netherlands and get people picky about this Did you know that Vladimir Putin's daughter lives in Holland? Yeah

32:23 Dutch mayor once Vladimir Putin's daughter Maria deported. Listen to this, I'm going to play this clip This is Don Lemon who had a dutch correspondent i think he was American but living in the Netherlands and this was very very interesting when I heard this and I had to rewind the DVR and clip it for us Who do you think that does people blame here? Oh there's no question who the Dutch people blame here they blame the people who they call the thugs on the ground. You notice this word, thugs popping up everywhere? This is part of the talking points. Yeah, thugs become a means. Thugs in eastern Ukraine are the separatists

33:03 And everybody who blames them also blames Vladimir Putin and the Russian regime. They feel that Russia is responsible for perpetuating this conflict and for arming the separatists, and the separatist you know... The Dutch people see the separatists as just a bunch of drunken thugs." Well done! That meme has carried through. Worked perfectly. Great job. Do you think in the days to come as people start processing this that there's more anger to come? Yes. You know, from the very moment that it happened I started seeing comments from people here in the Netherlands who were calling for military action which is of course most people here realize is patently absurd and unrealistic. But I noticed as the Dutch government started talking about economic sanctions that there's a great dissatisfaction even with that. I don't know if the Dutch people can be satisfied in any way

34:04 Let's just revisit some recent history of the riling up of the Dutch people against Russia. We've had the gays, now this was when Mickey and I were in Holland during Queen's Day... no Gay Pride day last summer right? Remember, it was like oh stop drinking. This is when we first found out that these laws were bullcrap so first there was he hates the gays then um there was this horrible diplomat in the Netherlands who was abusing his kids and you know they arrested him and then they had to release him and then a Dutch diplomat got uh got roughed up in Moscow then The Greenpeace

34:41 Protesters were arrested all of them from the Netherlands. The ship comes from the Netherlands This has been going on for a long time They've been flying process you have to remember that You know, this is the we the United States was the country that brought you Edward Bernays Yes We are good at this. We are the ones when Germany got beaten in World War one That's where you had Goebbels and these guys show up saying what did we got beaten by propaganda? Yeah and we have to fight it. And so they developed their own form of it, but in fact we are the best at this! We're unstoppable!" Yeah and what's really crazy is that...and I guess this may even be in their Bernays writings

35:24 When you really, really get down to it. Of course we do the best propaganda much better than Russia We really know how to play people in the media but what you need to do is turn it around You know the Dutch saying wat je zegt ben jezelf met je kop door de helft And say oh no this those people are doing it and this is a guy Remnick from The New Yorker magazine And listen to what he said on, of course MSNBC. I think it's very hard for an American to imagine what all-embracing ramification this is. It's the big lie! Imagine a certain kind of president appointing Glenn Beck

36:09 every network and every television channel that anybody possibly would watch, and putting out a kind of paranoid propaganda line that is repeated every night. If you were to watch Russian television tonight, the main state television stations You would be hearing that the Ukrainians in conjunction with the United States was responsible quite possibly for shooting down that airliner. You'd be hearing all kinds of things you and I would consider crazy, but this is the mental universe being created by an all-embracing Putinism.

36:51 I won't take it. I'm not gonna accept it. I'm not giving it to you good Now let's just go back to Marie Harf. You may have this clip, but this is Matt of course our buddy from AP who is just an outstanding journalist he may be a wuss and I think he drinks too much and that's what you kind of know... He drinks at all! It looks like it looks like a drinker And by the way Mat if ever meet you I'm buying I'd love to get drunk with this guy he looks like He's always hungover looking and he asked the you know, this is the obvious question and it just got this was 15 minutes I cut it down to a couple. You can stop whenever you've had enough but III love this this tetetet How is it exactly that?

37:34 that it was fired from Russian, I mean from separatist-held territory? Well we have a great deal of information that the Secretary laid out yesterday and I can go back through some of it today. But we do know first that Russian backed separatists were in possession of an SA11 system as early as Monday July 14th this is from intercepts of separatist communications MS. HARF is a member of the UN Security Council, and she's been working with the UN Security Council on this issue for some time now.

38:18 Look, this is what we know as of right now. Based on open information... Stop a second! Was this yesterday's press conference? I think this was two days ago. Could be yeah. Yeah because i actually was going to get that clip but then yesterday I ended up clipping the stuff from yesterday so I don't have any kind of... No it's okay this is good. Yeah, you're right. This is two days ago and I cut it way down because this goes... No, I heard this one because i listened to all of this week's stuff. Play some more right? Because I'm waiting for you to play the side clip but uh... We'll get to that sometime. basically common sense, right? We know where it was. Common sense! Oh I'm sorry who needs proof when you got common sense? And social media. So well that's exactly what she is going to say she is going to say social media common sense. Information that that's based on and we can share uh were happy to do so will continue looking at that

39:11 But look, this is what we know as of right now based on open information which is basically common sense. Right? We know where it was fired from and we know who has this weapon. Backed up... It's disputed though. a host of information that we have gathered. A host? About who did this, where it came from and what the weapons system was so one of- We're just telling you what we know now One of the reasons we've called on Russia to push the separatist sit backs into an investigation So we can get all the facts You're saying but said the only thing you're willing to put out publicly is the social media accounts I mean the social media... That's part of it. That's part of it! Poor girl But there is social media accounts that says, that disputes that or claims to present a different version What would that version be Matt? That would be no agenda show

40:02 There are many, many theories. But you're saying that all of those accounts- Most of which are completely illogical I would point out. When someone says, I would point out then she's really swimming in deep water like, I'm threatening water here! I would point out to this is illogical. All the accounts that do not support your version of events are wrong? Yes Matt, you're catching on. And all the ones that do support it are right? Look we make assessments based on a variety of intelligence and information some of which publicly in some way, we can't. And look if you just- And look shut up! Take a step back. Take a step back because you're in my face right now Matt. Right? We need there to be an investigation so that we can get all the facts carried but on top of that we have public information which is of course the easiest for us to talk about of the separatists bragging about having this system, bragging about the attack that took place and then walking back when it became known that it was a passenger jet I would

40:55 People who don't believe our assessment to say okay, what other possible explanation could be could there be for that? Couldn't be any other explanation You do video sums it up perfectly for me they defy logic right the fine logic And Matt is being I have to give it to him he's being really calm because the camera was on his face and I like It because he has that old school... what was the guy, Quincy Adams? No it was The Doctor. Who is the guy who's a reporter for this TV series? He had a typewriter. I don't know. Start from a place of you have separatists out on again this is the easiest piece information for us to talk about

41:35 about. Online, bragging about it! Start there and then work from there? Let's work from there okay we're bragging about it. Work through some phony baloney social media... They got to get off this by the way this is not working. No this is exactly that's why she's being thrown out there to try and sell this because you know she's young, she's the hipster, she understands the social media, she can sell it to him. Work from all of the evidence we have that we are confident we know where it was fired from were confident we know what And it points in a certain direction. Again, we would encourage Russia to support an investigation if they don't believe the facts It points in a certain direction but I'm not sure it would stand up to you know... I strongly disagree. I absolutely believe that it wouldn't Okay, you can stop that now. It's almost over this is one last bit and it's like I got 35 come on Not everyone hears this This is what the Noah Jenner show was good No, but I have the clips from yesterday I think are little more poignant

42:28 Because he takes the same reasoning and pushes it a little harder. Let's roll it, which one? Hardline? Start with Matt versus Harf on the line on a map. I don't know what the intent is... It sounds like the same cadence! You wouldn't know the difference. No, you could put it for this would be three years ago and I wouldn't know the difference. The intentions are whoever was on the ground pushing the button. I don't. And the last thing about this... Clearly well clearly I know the intention were to launch a sophisticated missile and kill people whether those they're trying to kill Ukrainian military officers or civilians And we're still waiting to find out. I'm not arguing that one is better than the other, I know. I'm just saying this trajectory thing that you said was put out by the embassy yesterday. We posted that a few days ago right? But if you just look at that lay person looking at it, it's a line drawn on

43:27 drawn on a satellite photo with nothing to back it up. Well as I said, it's based on a series of classified information which we have to take the leap of faith to believe that they're... Matt, we are trying to put as much out about this information as possible We are trying very hard to do so. It is a process that takes, I think more time than any of us certainly you or I would like but I think it would make the point that its much more time consuming to declassify real evidence then to make it up which is what the Russians have been doing for days now. Okay well be that as it may are you saying at some point we are working to get more information declassified and put out there

44:10 uh... i think we can assist a difficult process is a difficult process when you're trying to fabricate under do you understand the given the conflicting claims no matter how ridiculous use a the other side diversion is and no matter how implausible it might be but you know he's saying that you put together imagery showing those the root of his trajectory trajectory shows just one piece this one time anyone control lines on a map No, we do it better than others. We've got CGI and we've got the virtual studio on CNN. Come on Matt! By the way... Lou Grant. Oh okay. Stek nailed it he's old enough to remember So she has a line on the map but she does have a punchline here That is not what our intelligence community does Yeah it is Yes that exactly what they do You're a line on the map Part two of this has some other tidbit I think It's very short

45:07 Who put their finger on the trigger? We still need to find that out. But suffice to say, the Russian separatists we believe fired this in general could not be doing what they're doing without the Russians and responsibility lays at the feet of President Putin not just for this but for every incident that we have seen throughout this conflict period. So it's Putin whose fault is this? That's what you're saying? I think I was pretty clear. You said its a very compelling case but its a circumstantial case isn't it? Is it case based on a number of different pieces of evidence, Matt? Putin! Yeah. Of course. I want to go play one more Harf clip because this one is kind of interesting cause this is a little more uh... It's funnier. Oh good. And this was during they talked about in yesterday's press conference they talked about how the US has stopped us

46:02 The flights to Ben Gurion. Yeah, because of one stray missile that landed a mile away from the airport So the USA decides to stop which has been lifted as if today right but they put two clamps on it yeah and She says and no one would blame you I don't have their clip of her saying this But I'm just tell what she said which is the setup to this gag Which is the one? Which is Matt versus Harv comment about uncomfortable passenger She says and nobody would want to fly in there anyway Because you'd be very uncomfortable and nervous, and you'd be you'd be just a wreck So that's one of the reasons they lifted. They stopped flying in and so he brings this point up

46:44 The FAA notice to airlines does not apply to military aircraft, which is why he couldn't land. I just wanted to clarify that was a taken question from the team. But on that you said if you were passenger you'd be pretty nervous too? Was the secretary nervous flying into... Secretary uh... He's never nervous? As you saw we didn't announce the trip until it was done. I understand that but you said if you were a passenger on a plane flying in, he's not nervous about it. The Secretary is very happy to be there meeting with you for it now. Can you speak for your other colleagues? Was anyone on the plane? This is ridiculous. No because if its a danger then it's a danger and if not... If the secretary thinks this is not a danger then something else. He and our whole team were very comfortable landing at Bangoran which would seem too

47:27 I don't know, the lie that FAA is concerned. Take that up with the FAA? Yes! Well just moving along on that line... Take it off with the FAA So the former mayor of New York City who would shut down things because oh my god let's shut down the city because uh the Sarneff brothers might be driving to New York Shut down the subway because there's a storm coming take away salt from people, they might kill themselves. Oh don't have big soft drinks because it's dangerous for you! The nanny of New York flew into Ben-Gurion to prove that there is nothing wrong I'm not afraid, I am not worried and Brolf was there looking mighty tan I think Brolf is on a... he's out there He's on vacation Like oh crap I'll do a couple stand ups for ya Do a hit for if you want

48:18 And Brov messed it up with Bloomberg. If you're not, if you don't feel safe here I don't know where you'd feel safe and i think the state department is just overreacting in typical bureaucratic fashion... By the way, I think it's FAA that put out the warning not necessarily the State Department but they did or they did put out a statement but this FAA who said you shouldn't fly So anyway, so he is now saying, ah the State Department and their typical bull crap. If you're not... if you don't feel safe here I don't know where you'd feel safe and i think the state department is just overreacting in typical bureaucratic fashion Political reasons for that? That's why would you think that? Do you think it- I'm asking you Now when he said that, I thought he was being facetious

49:00 I thought he was saying, why would you think that? I thought he was like doing a no agenda bit. You know what i mean like politically motivated why would you think that brof that makes no sense but he was serious! Why would you think that? I'm asking you. I'm ridiculous why would you think that? Is it an outrage for you to accuse one of our agents? By asking the question you're in. It's an outrage, you'd accuse one of us by the way I heard about this clip I didn't see it You caught it? It's an outrage! You would think that our State Department would be politicizing this event How dare you! It was an outrage for you to accuse and one of our agencies I'm just asking

49:38 me Mr. Billionaire, I'm sorry! Just ask him to do my job!" You're implying that our government does things for political reasons and maybe every once in a while they do? What?! They don't... No he says it gets better, he says maybe every once in awhile they do. This is great clip. For political reasons and maybe every once in awhile they do? Maybe!? Some-I dunno but this clearly isn't outrage you suggest happening here But its your job to prove it just the allegation against our goverment I personally take as an offence I didn't allegate anything. No, no, no, I was just asking if you thought that there was some political motive behind the travel advisory or the FAA decision? Number one, number one, I wouldn't know. There's a lot of people in Israel too. You don't know... Well if he says he doesn't know then how come you're saying you do know what is this Bloomberg? And the other people don't know but just the tone of the question of trying to create dissension it's insulting to America. Ha ha! I'm insulted by you bro! Dr Fauci thanks so much as always for joining us

50:34 Good to be here, Bruce. Don't you think they're primarily concerned? They're their job these these experts at the FAA's to protect American passengers and they saw this rocket come into near Ben Gurion Airport yesterday land about a mile away And they say they want to err on the side of caution especially after what happened in Ukraine with the Malaysia Airlines? I'm sure they do, but if you have a standard you would close every airport in the United States. You'd close down every airline unfortunately our security isn't very good then The real world is that there are things going on near airports all over the world Now here's what really going on What?! Yeah I know! What're you talking about!? Well... So you know there has been all kinds of boycotts

51:16 I really don't understand anymore what's going on because, and maybe i'm just gonna give up on it. This Israel-Gaza Palestine and the media is all saying you know that Israel is killing everybody so the media is always pro-Israel but then when it comes to Palestine they're anti-israel and then Bloomberg who's always afraid of him he'll be afraid citizens are gonna get killed put in police everywhere Then he says oh I'm gonna go fly cause there's nothing wrong with the safest airport in the world! But we weren't the only ones We were not the only ones to shut down flights. As soon as the FAA announced that it didn't want US carriers to fly to Israel, the Europeans basically did the same thing. That's not true! British Airways had the courage—they had the courage to fly! Air France, Lufthansa, KLM... Most of the major European airlines aren't flying in and out of Israel right now either

52:07 British Airways is, LL is. And the other airlines that are... EasyJet I think EasyJet is flying John. No no! Ryanair. EasyJet I understand stopped flying too. Ryanair over here. They have got to make their own decisions but you know we've got to stand up and do what's right You can't just get cowed when somebody says something and everybody goes in the side of ultimate caution. You mean like big soft drinks? A-hole That's how terrorists win, Wolf. Yeah! Can't do that. I think he said wolf. Did he say brolf? What did you say? Hold on... Did he say it right? Win, Wolf. Wolf. So this was basically a part of the boycott that everyone... Israel is under attack in this economic attack

52:54 And Bloomberg got called in to go and fix it. If you look at the reports now, where I didn't clip anything but people say oh well the FAA has lifted the restriction we don't really know why but well i'd say some money talking somewhere someone put a call in that said fucking lift that shit now boy this is... The whole thing is completely weird and I don't say the word weird often Yeah, I'm not gonna argue that point. That's for sure as well we really haven't discussed it much Just a lot of don't understand this repent stories Let me just finish out our Russian thing of course it was Azerbaijan was the country? I couldn't think of Baku

53:39 and the Shah Deniz gas field. That is the one that is supposed to replace the Gazprom. This is where, why Clinton was in Baku or that's why we had the Eurovision Song Contest in Baku. Azerbaijan is piping the gas through the Caspian Sea... The whole idea was to have this all in place and running to circumvent everything that Russia is doing, but we have two problems in the mix as we've discussed and that is Germany and the Netherlands. And the Netherlands no way... No way are the elites of the Netherlands going to give up on their gravy train! Do you know how many? The Netherlands makes nothing. In fact yeah big joke on that clip you had. Yeah we export flowers. Oh please

54:30 Flowers and some cheese, and maybe some candles. And the rest is all... Candles? Yeah no, Dutch candles. I didn't know this! Oh yes, candles from...? How about wooden shoes? I think they do those. No they don't there's no export. I believe candles also from Gouda I think were very famous for making candles. What about some Delft pottery? Okay you're making my point for me The country makes nothing. It is known as a door heifland, which means a pass-through country. It's always been a transportation pass through country. So you just want to be one of those guys picking off a penny every time something happens? You want to be a law firm, you wanna be a bank, you wanna be an accountant and these are the things...

55:19 The Rolling Stones even have their companies set up. U2 has their company set up in the Netherlands, it's a tax haven! Oh by the way not for the citizens no you can pay 60% income tax you stupid losers while the elites of the world are sitting there and yeah look at the companies Boxalis and all these dredging companies and shipping companies the harbor of Rotterdam its so massive And that's all that there really is. But the government owns at least 50% stake, they're losing money on these deals while everybody else... you're right who picks and shovels they're like and that's what the Dutch are I'm sorry to say it that way It's a country that is great at servicing other people Why we didn't.. We don't even do hookers well anymore They've gotten rid of all of that! We used have some fun and been weed and ruining everything and that's how we kept people happy

56:15 And now they're like, well shouldn't we do something about Putin? Yeah no it's not going to happen. There are pictures of the king and the queen in Sochi drinking with Putin is their bestest buds because they're in business together. It's not going to happen and what the Dutch people got is a national day of mourning, which by the way looked very much like the Pim Fortuyn procession when he was buried... Which I think was the start really of this generation being knocked down into submission to shut up

56:53 And the Dutch will fight tooth and nail along with the Germans. They do not want an energy union, this is a strife within the European Union that is going to be a big problem And meanwhile we have the neocons here, Kerry and the Yalies and the Noodlemans in the Kagan's. They of course want to push Russia back telling you control everything Ukraine it's that country is done I'm sorry to say it done they will keep rubble eysing and making crap just to make sure that less and less gas comes through and if you try to participate in the South Stream project which

57:32 which is a really big one Russia's been pushing for, like Bulgaria. Oh! Then all of the sudden you get bank runs and the government is resigning and getting replaced and people will start dying in their hot tubs. And the same for Italy...and Austria. No no, you do not want to participate in this because the people who are behind stopping Russia they are scary. They're scary. They kill-they do not care. They will kill you And the only thing that Holland, that Europe is going to get is this trans-Adriatic pipeline and then whatever else we might ship in which is bullcrap. It means nothing. The trans-Adriatic pipeline actually can... has the capacity to probably deliver about 60% of what Europe needs and this of course I think it's where the German thing comes from because the Germans they are not gonna turn off. They don't even want anyone to know they're getting gas directly from Gazprom

58:29 If anyone started pointing that out, it'd be a real issue. No it all comes through Ukraine. Focus on Ukraine? Shh don't talk about it! That's why they are even reluctant to say... even agree that the plane was shot down They haven't really even said that this is why the American establishment is hating on Germany It doesn't fit in with the whole process Yeah no we've been as we pointed out of this show there has been a continuing theme which is the get Germany Well, that's not it. That's not exactly the theme John what that's not does not is not get Germany well How else would you how else would you describe it but Deutschland blitzkrieg? Twitch oh yeah, that's more than get ya

59:28 There's another that was so I'm listening to Josh Josh earnest and Josh also cited social media. I've got a clip, but this is yesterday Social media thing you know this has got to go This was the this was all the invention of Hillary Yeah And her boys and her tech experts if you remember from a couple years ago people who listened to show long enough where they established these these bullcrap You know, phonies online. By the way I had a little experience...I had a tweet taken down Oh? Like removed by the Gestapo? It just suddenly gone. Push-poof! I used the word McDonald's douchebags And your tweet was removed? Yeah it's nowhere to be found Hold on a second let me do this right now Why don't you go look see if it's in there Well no lets..I'm gonna Tweet this McDonald Douchebagz

1:00:19 Well, no you have to use the at McDonald's that way the McDonalds folks pick it up. Okay hold on everybody do that right now At McDonald well this is interesting McDonald's Mexico McDonald's and then douchebag or douche bags Douchebag or douchebags? What doesn't make it douchebags. It was about the fact that they fire this poor woman who is in South Carolina's a story and it's on there floating around, it's done. It's tweeted. It's done. The woman in South Carolina was arrested and thrown in jail and fired from McDonald's. It turns out was the final punchline to the story for letting her nine year old which is a fourth grader

1:01:00 Go to the park by yourself. Oh yeah, of course because you know it's child abuse Yeah well I was in the fourth grade and all over Chicago by myself and a couple of my friends My dad left me in Manhattan when I was nine And he said yeah I'll see ya back at the...I got lost I remember getting lost. It's all straight lines you can find. And then, that's what he said it was all here's the streets and avenues and oh my god this is just this is a trauma that's just coming up! Oh my god! Oh shit Well, I was like when it when I was in the second grade we used to bicycle out from Centerville California which is now Fremont out to Niles Which is five or six miles away on a bicycle by and as a second grader So this woman was it was unfair to grab her throw her in jail And then she I guess she got out on bail or something McDonald's decides to fire her so I wrote down this you know that It's a Washington Post article about the McDonald's firing right and I wrote McDonald's douchebags and it disappeared

1:02:01 Well, I just did it and it's being retweeted a lot. So my dad left me in Manhattan when I was nine and he said, oh you're still getting back? And I remember being so lost and then I had like 50 cents... That was kind of chicken shit to leave with no money because you couldn't get robbed! Well here's what I remember- Oh my god this is this is a youth trauma that's just coming up! And I remember some guy saying hey got any money? And I said well and he said look you got nothing to worry about I'm not gonna hurt you You're a white man Yeah, I got 50 cents. Oh, and I remember showing up wherever I was supposed to be finally my dad worried it was like I was lost in Manhattan

1:02:43 What a dick! Sucks. Oh my, I swear to God i'm sweating now. I'm reliving the experience. Okay but just before you go into Josh let me play this from Press TV which is Iranian propaganda of course but it plays right into what you said about social media and Hillary. The United States is believed to be providing technical support to Taqfidi and terrorist groups operating in Iraq and Syria According to press TV's sources, the US State Department has provided anti-tracking and anonymous surfing software to militants in order to facilitate their activities online. The department is said to have trained the armed groups in maintaining communications security through two NGOs namely the Institute for War and Peace Reporting and Freedom House

1:03:31 Thank you. The insurgents have an active presence on social networking websites, particularly Twitter and Facebook They use the sites to post news photos and videos of their atrocities And we had talked previously about Freedom House that was going back to episode I think 618 But this Institute for War and Peace reporting that's a new one Have you seen these guys? You know, we talked about these guys before. Are you sure? I WPR? Yeah, pretty sure it sounds awfully familiar Freedom House yes and then i found that for war and peace reporting Well you're thinking of Amy Goodman No no that's the WarandPeaceReport.org Let me see...I'll go to the great new search dot NHShowNotice.com IWPR.org let me see if the search shows anything no um no i don't think We've talked about them. Talk about it

1:04:24 Well, if you go to IWPR.org and you look at their sponsors or supporters British Council, Canadian International Development Agency, Carnegie Corporation of New York Community Fund Big Lottery Compton Foundation Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada Department for International Development UK European Commission Ford Foundation Foreign and Commonwealth Office UK international media support MacArthur foundation Ministry of foreign affairs from Finland Denmark the Netherlands Norway National Endowment for Democracy... Hold on a second. What is the URL? Because I put in iwpr.net It's dot net, it's dot net, I'm sorry. Dot net This is the Institute for Women Policy Research No that is not what we want...it is i w

1:05:07 IWPR.net, I'm sorry. The National Endowment for Democracy which is the Democratic Party, the Open Society Institute Soros, Plowshares Found, Rockefeller Family Associates Samuel Rubin Foundation... These guys know how to do it right! They are big time and you know what? They say they give them- What we do is they fund independent journalism Where's my money?! I don't fund anything like that. IWPR gives voice to people at the front lines of conflict, crisis and change! I think we're at the frontline of change from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe. What is it about us? They don't have it... It's only a what-we-do yeah I know it was bad so what we do and then they don't have a easy place to find staff uh they're A-holes. I can find it if you look on the right hand side you have staff and offices

1:06:06 The green box on the right hand side. They have IWPR Europe, which is in London, IWPR United States and IWPR Netherlands! Heeeeeey! Tax-free? Anthony Borden is the founder of the Institute. And he was the editor of the highly regarded magazine War Report. Okay whatever let's see what else has he done... What else has he done...? He was commended for the best on...commended. What does that mean? Ah, hey! Good work Joe! It's not an actual award is it? No, we can say we're commended We're highly commended Best online journalism... A couple times were actually recommended Yeah exactly he has received a MacArthur Foundation NGO Research Fellowship Okay just like Laura Poitras

1:06:58 He worked as an editor and reporter for Harper's, The Nation. The American lawyer contributed to the New York Times. He was a reporter... I contributed in the New York Times? Yeah really! So have I. I was interviewed. I contributed. Oh that's different. You're the celebrity. Celebrity. It's a big outfit. No kidding?! Big big guy they got a lot of money Who is the one getting all the money this can't be your Borden It's impossible to know because I have no way of pulling the UK information or the Dutch found information. There is no way to know, this is international... This a big big one! Anyway... He doesn't have a wiki page! They would delete it anyway

1:07:51 But anyway, so that was indeed Hillary Clinton's doing with...and that was Ronan also. Ronan Frank Sinatra's kid was a big part of setting that up and the other douchebag who now is running the IT department or the CTO he took over for Vivek Kundra another Indian guy He was also in the State Department Yeah there's a lot of this going on and Hillary is very proud of it And now that's been handed over to the NGOs. And now we'll go to Josh Earnest, which is the best disc jockey... It's almost as good as Bubba The Love Sponge! In fact, we'll call him Bubba The Love Sponge from now on

1:08:32 And here he is citing social media. After the plane was downed, there were ample social media accounts to indicate that an SA-11 system that appeared to be missing one specific missile was being transported back across the border from Ukraine to Russia. There are also social media accounts of separatists talking about shooting down an airplane. So there is a lot of evidence that's already been marshalled marshaled That's a great way of saying it. Yeah, they've been marshaled Have you have you marshalled the podcast yet today? I got this other clip which is like hi This just this got nothing to do with anything but he actually says that what he again on the case in the club No, no, obviously I misread that but did anything change in the last 24 hours and then made this decision necessary No, I don't think that anything changed the calculus on that matter in terms of logistics

1:09:30 By the way, your tweet is not deleted. It's right here. This story is worse as McDonald's at McDonald's douchebags fired the mom and you're tweeting still there I couldn't find it maybe if this is the clown now Oh now I've insulted McDonald's Well then take it down just delete it There's a delete button I've insulted McDonald's and they'll spit in my burger Well they probably do that anyway Did you know that while we were on the topic If you don't mind changing subjects real quick You have to play the Food in China McDonald's clip. Wait a minute, before you play that I think we're going to run through how the whole show of our clips here... Yeah really? Well let me- oh stop for second! Stop! You are going too fast. I am. One. Stop. One. I'm deleting my tweet because i don't want them to spit on my food. You should delete it. It is deleted. There's no reason for gratuitous... Two did you know that Mcdonalds does not make their own fries they buy them

1:10:30 I find that to be an outrage and it shall not eat there again. What? They don't make their own fries! Well, they buy... you mean they buy the prepared fries. All they do is just heat them up Yeah well that makes sense Well no it doesn't When you go to In-N-Out Burger You can see him cutting the potatoes right there on the window Same as um... There was another one Mickey and I went to It was called Mighty Fine Have you heard of this? Never Oh great concept Mighty I think its a Texas thing only And they actually have the boxes of the Idaho potatoes sitting right in the middle of the... In-N-Out Burger has their own potato farms. Well, nah nah nah nah!

1:11:07 John C. DuBois. And with that... It's a lot colder, I don't know it! And with that i'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. DuBois. In the morning to you Mr. Curry, in the morning all ships of sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and all the dames and the knights out there. And in the morning to everyone in the chat room their no agenda stream dot com uh thank you for participating Energetically this morning and thank you to our artists Martin JJ Brought us the artwork for episode 636 and We are looking for always were a great piece of we have to discuss somebody was which where was this at the? Which one was I can't remember. This was I don't remember I can look oh

1:11:55 636, Martin JJ. It was...oh yeah the Gazprom on the tail with the missile flying through it. Yeah now we have to discuss this so artists understand why we picked that one I liked another piece better in terms of art okay but it wasn't as uh it didn't have the dimensionality there's a thing that we look for on these and we're just saying this or the artist can because our artists are great but But they're always wondering why we'd pick one thing over another and we talk about why we pick one thing over another occasionally. I'm going to talk about this one now because the one i like better was the no agenda false flag air Going down to suit your propaganda narrative with joshua pedigrews Very nice piece, but why did we not choose that? I can't remember because the piece the because there were Because the martin jj piece was actually

1:12:46 dimensional. In other words, it had different things going on...it had the missile hitting the plane but also the Gazprom logo was really targeting Gazprom and the Russians and so it has some sort of symbolism that was not available on the other piece yeah and so that's one of the reasons you have You know, a couple of these guys that can hit a lot of them out of the park which is Nick Durrat and Martin JJ. They're the two top winners. Yeah but 20 Watt Bulb has been doing great lately. He's on a streak! But over time these other 2 guys... It's a real, that little gift that spot artists have. They can just do a little drawing that sums up your article and it's placed in the article. And people do burn out! It's okay... People DO burn out. Yeah yeah. That happens. A lot of people burn out. Burnout will come back later. The original Knights or the guys who started it all they're both burned out Paul Couture and... Right right right. One day we'll burn out

1:13:49 Yeah, it'll be a while. The problem is the news writes itself. That's true. We're not really doing that much. Oh man! No I mean we watch his... Don't let Mickey hear you. ...and we go oh my god did he say what i think he said and then record it and then put it on this show and we go oh my god can you believe he said that? That's not entirely true. I research documents, you're making my job sound easy! Come on, I got stature here. You're trying to play a... maybe that's what you do? It is! That's your contribution. Yeah it is, this is my contribution. You just drinking Rothschild wine all day and like oh what time is it? Oh half an hour to the show, I should get some clips

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1:16:08 My CNN app has just sent me an important notification. There was a Ukrainian warplane flying within five kilometers of MH17 Adam, hold on a second... Adam you are so onto something! You guys are worth absolutely every yen we send Being married to a Russian Uh, Miss Natasha. Oh yes! Of course this makes so much sense. Yes okay yeah Your unbiased opinion has saved our marriage on a number of occasions That's right hold on a second I gotta do something here let's see The No Agenda Show Saving marriages since 2008

1:16:58 And this time around is no difference. Absolutely incredible how far the news can be bent That's the real crime here Thanks for keeping everything straight So much so that I am sure that the best podcast in the universe will go down in history for saving us from World War three We're in the middle of it, it's just when we not realizing if there's war everywhere There is a world war impression. Yeah You know what? The thing you know The thing is I get emails from people Of course And a lot of people who have relatives in Ukraine, and a lot of these people don't even live in Ukraine. There's this guy in Canada who is so mad at me! You don't know Putin as an asshole? Putin is killing Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin!" I said well how about the noodle-mans and everybody was over there installing the

1:17:46 installing the new Ukrainian government and you know, doesn't that account for anything? Or just...you know. And then we had Noodleman come out and she basically said, no man you don't understand Putin's horrible! He's evil who kill people! And what people understand is that there is never, never even when in the Middle East And the Israel-Palestine, this is never just because I hate you. No no no This is always about stuff! Turf Resources and some hookers That's what it's always about It's not just I hate you Putin hates you...No! And that's what your being told stop believing that You know we get the same feedback from our economic hitmen

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1:24:11 And another... Hold on, hold on. Karma! Don't step on his karma. Don't step on the karma. Did you give him the deducing? Yeah, he did. So a similar note comes in from Carla another female standing up for her man also south of the Mason-Dixon line and in Montgomery Alabama 200 bucks and she says in a handwritten note my husband Joseph Kroeger Is it Craig or Kruger? Oh, it looks like Kruger on here but says Kruger. She's handwritten note longhand has...but nice! Nice long hand. Has been a longtime listener and fan of your of you John since well probably before we met in 1990s. Since hard drives were made of wood

1:24:52 before we met in 1997, he Joe has been technically unemployed and has not felt it appropriate to give to the show even though I don't mind giving all kinds of small donations for dog rescues. Okay. In touch with Mimi. I have to say I kind of hated your show and rolled my eyes when Joe would want me to listen to the particularly good bits However, it has grown on me to the... This is something we have to talk about. Grown on me to the point that I listen on purpose now! I don't agree with much of Adam's really out there stuff which I haven't heard much recently but I enjoy his passion Your show is truly enlightening and you say what others are afraid to say Hell yeah I'm not as sure that they're afraid to say it No they just well They're afraid for their jobs

1:25:51 There's there's that element that can have sure yeah, well. That's why we don't have advertisers mm-hmm We don't to worry about being fired by the advertiser Anyway Joe's 55th birthday is August 8 Friday Would it be please him immeasurably? To hear that and she uses the word of measure will be to hear that I am giving him an associate executive producership or than no agenda show That's so much love right there Yeah, no it's fantastic and I'm very happy to get letters like that. The only thing that disturbs me... Now we should put him on todays birthday list and then if i remember we'll put him on the eighth too but you know first in first out Ok hold on a second because he's not first in first out

1:26:36 It's last in first out. Right, you have it right. LIFE O! What uh... who is that? Joseph Krager. Joseph from Carla. Hold on let me put that in right now. Now here's what would be good when I get these notes I'm always concerned about it because I know this is an issue with a lot of people men and women spouses usually one... Oh no just need for just for the accounting his birthday is when cuz I don't have it here August 8th. And how old will he be 55. 55 double nickels can't drive 55 okay yes

1:27:14 When I reread this part, I have to say that kind of hated your show and rolled my eyes when Joe would want me to listen to the particularly good bits. And now she's a big show fan because she listens all the time on purpose as she puts it. I'm always concerned about this because I think it's common because the show is so far away from mainstream media analysis. It's alien! And I want to remind people that there's really nothing we can do about it. We can get people listen to show 200 point five Which i think is a show you can get from the archives at no agenda nation comm show two hundred point five It says introductory show of sorts and talks about the origins of the show but in overall, it's so different

1:28:00 This show is extremely different. It's done as post-modern performance art, as I like to put it... which makes Adam roll his eyes but i believe this one. No no! And we have and it's done on the fly, it's live to tape where we do all this stuff right as you go along. We don't rehearse and we don't discuss beforehand what were going to talk about and we have complimentary clips anyway It's just, I'm just saying that if you...I think the best deal is if you're a commuter and you got people trapped in the car. The best way to get them to listen to No Gen is just play this show and make them listen because they're on the car with you when you own the radio. And there are couple more aspects to it one, I believe we are making comedy show thats what I've always signed up for

1:28:45 I'm just trying to make John laugh, really. If I make John laugh then that's a good show for me. Yeah he can do that about once a month. Two this is a public health service because it's very very dangerous to And I see this now with... and Mickey and I are talking about this almost every single day, because of course we now know at least five people who either had a relative or colleague or someone who was killed in the take down. The downing! The downing of the plane. We've got to say it correctly. The Down-ing. And we're seeing how ill people really are. So they get this little change your icon, and they get the little day of mourning and they get to yell...and this is where I'm different in opinion...people are yelling back-and-forth on social media

1:29:39 They're yelling at each other. Oh, screw this guy! Oh I can't even hear the word Putin!" But that's all there is they're sitting in their underwear social media-ing each other. Essentially short circuited. Thank you that's the word short circuiting yeah they're short circuited And with this, even if you just listen and get angry because all these guys are crazy. You are releasing something that by itself is good but you're probably going to find that when you hear our reason and our analysis which doesn't just come from us it comes from people in the field we have producers as we call them or listeners in every agency everywhere in the world in government uh... in science uh...in art in education entertainment

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1:32:03 You also have experts in the legal field. Yeah, okay Help us out for Sunday show please And of course we always need you to be out there propagating our one and only formula Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth And I'd like to wrap up with our Russian slash energy segment with two clips Didn't I have something? I was gonna do in the interim, but no nothing here is a congressman Adam Schiff Democrats not sure where he's from. We're shift California, California

1:32:58 And he is going to tell us exactly what we can do and what we need to do, and how we need to roll this out. Can you envision any circumstances or scenario under which there will be US military intervention? No I can't. Those that say the administration's policy haven't succeeded... The only way to ensure the Russians were out would be to put military boots on the ground We're not going to do that. But we have enormous economic leverage if we use it, and if we use in concert with the Europeans, we can literally bring the Russian economy to its knees." And I think that would be the most powerful body blow frankly to Putin who is riding high in domestic popular support but when the Russian economy really starts to feel it Russians may lose some enthusiasm for Putin's bellicose foreign policy

1:33:45 Now this... Bellicose. Yes, I think we've got a bellicose policy. What does that even mean? What is a bellicose policy? I think this popped up before with we have with this word has come to us previously. Bellicose and i know we've talked about it means blowhard. It means belligerent aggressive Hostile, warlock. Yeah, aggressive blowhard. Let me see where we've used it on the show... This node, search.nashownotes.com is fantastic. Velikos I'm going to tell you that we used it in whoa episode 502 was when it came up. Let's see 526, 501 North Korea

1:34:32 A lot of it has come up with Snowden. That's such a great search engine! Anyway, go on... Well so this is sanctions right? And sanctions I think you pointed out on an email, a rare email where we discussed stuff you said how is this not an act of war and when you put tough sanctions in place and you know we're gonna kick this Putin down to the ground with his bellicose rhetoric calculus Let me take you back to 2005. Amy Goodman on Democracy Now talking to Bill Richardson, Bill Richardson I believe was the UN ambassador for the Clintons? No Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush. Was it Bush? Before we go on let's make sure that we know what he is saying about Richardson

1:35:22 He was one of the secretaries, I believe. He was a secretary but i think he was also an UN ambassador? Uh...I don't remember him ever being an ambassador let me just quickly... Well you know, you're not going to do that! ...to Mexico. And this is about the wiki pages they are downplaying them He was the 30th something or other governor of New Mexico, then he was the United States Secretary of Energy and then I'll be damned you're right. Oh gee! The United Nations ambassador from under Clinton oh like i said

1:35:59 Well, you said Clinton. I said Clinton first yeah then you confuse me and I scramble back to the House of Representatives this guy's a hard worker so he was asked about the sanctions put on Iraq back in the day and how that killed about half a million Iraqi children and these were because of sanctions And how does he feel about that? This is from 2005, Amy Goodman. Although President Bush led this invasion, President Clinton laid the groundwork with the sanctions and with the previous bombing of Iraq you were President Clinton's U.S. ambassador to the United Nations The sanctions were the correct policy

1:36:38 The UN sanctions, for example. The sanctions led to the deaths of more than a half million children not to mention one million Iraqis I stand behind the sanctions there were they successfully contain saddam hussein i believe that uh... the sanctions were an instrument of our policy to ask a question that was asked of us ambassador to u n maryland albright do you think the price was worth it five hundred thousand children I believe our policy was correct, yes. Alright so the question was do you believe the price was worth it half a million Iraqi children? He said yeah well... Yes! The policy was right Yeah let's go to Madeleine Albright who we just heard him talking about with the very question which is posed by ABC at that time We have heard that half a million children have died and i mean thats more children than die in Hiroshima And you know Is the price worth it

1:37:41 I think this is a very hard choice, but the price we think the price is worth it. Yeah exactly! Kill children because these are who these people are. These horrible people. I'm ashamed of shame but you know it's not just here at least everywhere they don't give a crap about you and want to kill you and your children. They don't care Afghanistan by the way job keep my eye on that because kind of out of So we had this runoff vote, this problem where our guy... I can't remember his name. But then the other guy Abdullah Abdullah which is a much better name- Yeah he's much better marketing. That's why everyone wants him because you can remember his name. You know Abdullah, Abdullah! I like the name Abdullah. He's got it twice i like it doubly. It was so nice we named it twice Ashraf Ghani is our guy that's the U.S. guy who we want to be president

1:38:37 And of course, we need to keep everything running there. But look out what's happening! So somehow we've come up with some strategy where we're going to alter the way government works in Afghanistan so that the winner... This is really great this is so American The winner will become the president but then the guy who's runner-up will become like a prime minister who will have special powers I don't know, he can cloak or something. I don't know, special powers that you can use. Cloak! But while all of this is happening the BRICS Brazil Russia India China and South Africa have come in and...I'll read this to you This is a big problem This is from last week I saved this article The world's top five emerging economies, the BRICS will participate in the elimination Of Afghani drug production

1:39:35 together with the Russian Federal Drug Control Service. Oh, they know we know what that's all about. Well yeah taking our business away Yeah That's reverse sanctions We're not gonna put up with that No this is so this is very bad talk that we're hearing Bodies will be found Yeah This isn't nothing very dumb but they're gonna try Very dumb very dumb it means that we're gonna see some some more we're going to get somebody counts Going on here for sure between the trying to screw us USA out of the world domination Reserve currency which allows us to live our lives of comfortably in debt And hi, and hi. I might point out yeah, I think it's great and high and high Make sure you understand we're also a high Based on whatever it ya know this is not gonna fly no this is these good there's something down No, and by the way that kind of talk that gets you blamed for that gets you shot at they guess It's not good just very stupid

1:40:34 Yeah, we're gonna see some more. We gotta keep an eye out for people from BRICS... major people from BRICS countries mysteriously getting killed until this ends. Yes, and... And it's all! So if you're wondering so now we're pulling out of Afghanistan this is the whole everything's done you know? We're set. We have the TAPI that's the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan Pakistan India pipeline that's what it's always been about and all we're going to do now as well we only need a thousand guys or so is just protect the pipeline and we doing most of it. Don't forget the poppy fields for God's sake. Of course but but this is the main

1:41:12 We're funding a lot of that with the Poppyfields. The pipeline is a big deal, but the Poppyfields funds this extra money that CIA needs. Sure sure. But the only thing I'm adding on top of that is that Turkmenistan said they would not participate unless the pipeline was safe all the way through so the only thing that's now kind of a problem is Waziristan which as you'll recall...I mentioned that name before anyone had heard it Do you recall that? Except the Waziristanis, they've heard the name. They heard it yes that's true but they don't listen to the show very often and but I said watch out we're gonna hear all kinds of shit. Yeah now you said this about two years ago And it was simple because I saw where the pipeline was running and it splits off We have a northern part in the southern part and Waziristan you know guys get away from our damn pipeline! We're gonna drone you so that's just...we'll fly the drones up and back I think the thousand guys are just to help with the poppies

1:42:09 But now that the Bricks are gonna say they're gonna try and eliminate it, I don't know. I'm not sure why...I think Putin's there to take over it! I think if he doesn't want to eliminate it that would be stupid! He'd just move into our turf! Not smart. Maybe Did you see Feinstein with her uh? There is no way they are eliminating a cash crop like this No so what I am saying is he'll take over Did you see Feinstein on Candy Crowley's show? No, I know she has been making a circuit. Yeah like what she said here was kind of funny. I think the intelligence is backing up the fact that this was a missile from an SA-11 Buk launcher that the trajectories and signatures are such that we know it came up in seconds

1:42:54 No, I don't think she said that. You had to play it back. Hold on a second let me roll it back two seconds. ...such that we know it came up and within seconds hit either near or... Was it before that? I'll just start over. I think the intelligence is backing up the fact that this was a missile from an SA-11. She said NSA. No, from an SA-11 Buk missile launcher. An 11 Buk launcher that the trajectories and the signatures are such that we know it came up within seconds... And damn its social media! ...hit either near or hit the plane

1:43:39 I think what's unusual about this, candidly is the coverage that CNN is giving it. You mean how they're programming everybody? The propaganda of the US propaganda? It is bringing into the home of everyone all over the world Good work. The bodies that lay in the field, the stealing of personal property, stealing parts of the plane... Don't look over here at what's really taking place take a look at the teddy bear being held up I think this has become a huge human drama

1:44:16 And I think the nexus between Russia and the separatists has been established very clearly. Okay, so the issue is where is Putin? And I would say... Sorry, I stepped on my own joke there here it comes. Putin! And I would say Putin you have to man up Man Up! Man UP Putin coming from Feinstein What is she, a street thug? Oh man. This is Argot! And of course it's horrible that the people died of course did you see that I don't have a clip or anything but my guy Frans Timmermans the foreign minister and I knew him I met him when he was the secretary not the actual foreign minister but the undersecretary whatever they call

1:45:12 And he's a very smart guy, Bilderberger. But he went into the UN and read this thing about oh it was so horrible and seeing someone taking wedding rings off stealing the wedding rings off of the body Like, he totally nailed it. You know? Turned it into a human tragedy which is exactly what Feinstein is saying and distract everyone from what's really going on and what's really happening...and its sad all round but you can't just stop and only talk about that! You've got to look at whats really going on people. It's not some mistake. And we had the French of course are also

1:45:57 you know, under attack because they have two multi-billion euro ships that they're going to deliver. Helicopter ships... And let's ask a question what are they supposed to do with these ships other than deliver them? Training how to drive them Don't you think? No! What do you mean, does it... They got there building the ships for the Russians now they gotta deliver them. Yeah. They're not gonna keep them. No but that's... The huge loss of money would... yeah the economy is bad enough right the community is uh bullcrap jumping on the French well they didn't just jump on him they shot one of their planes down

1:46:40 Air Algiers. We also want to bring you up-to-date on the latest headlines regarding this missing aircraft it is an air Algeria jet with 116 people that vanished from Burkina Faso to Algiers they lost contact with the aircraft and the aircraft never landed so we'll keep you up to date on this one but a loss of the aircraft would be third major accident in a week. In the latest headlines, Scott, just from the French news agency the plane changed direction amid heavy storms still no word of direct Crash report but no doubt missing as well 116 passengers and crew on board. I'm bored and dead hang on and whatever just another warning shot big terror threat in Norway This is new One of our producers there said hey, you know we never Never get something this big and this is al-qaeda Inc.. This is the they've actually released an English statement just to make it better the PST that is the

1:47:37 the Norwegian service, anti-terrorism service I guess. A threat assessment for 2014 which we made public in the beginning of March. We state the following among other things, that terror threat against Norway is considered to be aggravated. Extreme Islamism is still the most serious terror threat against Norway Also, we state that it has for a long time been a strategy to recruit extreme Islamists in war and conflict zones to carry out terrorist actions in Europe Which really hasn't happened yet although they say it would happen and that Syria at the time being is considered to be one of the leading arenas for this recruitment. The Jihadi Disneyland as Mike Rogers calls it, um... The situation we are now facing is serious but still an expected development in view of the trends and developments we have seen in the course of the last two or three years so they are warning that in the next few days something might happen in Norway uh..and they have a according to our producer there a Be Vigilant campaign I asked them if they had see something say something in Norwegian but they don't

1:48:38 Yeah, then you need snappy jingles people. That's what you need Now right along on this path though comes a report from Human Rights Watch And this was very interesting. A lot of people tweeted about this and said, oh yeah, no agenda show is all over this we know that the FBI is a honeypot and they... This is the six-week cycle I'm sure you saw news about this? Oh yeah! Okay but there's something very peculiar with this because you know I didn't just take it at face value. No, I went and got the report

1:49:21 I have it, and i'm going to open it here. And of course marked up some pages for everybody's pleasure and I noticed pretty much immediately that there was something very very strange going on which actually flows into something else that we've been looking at recently with the Daraf Grand Greenwall So the headline kind of this report which you may have heard of is FBI, in most of the 500 cases where they have thwarted terrorists these people were set up. And the report which was co-authored by the Columbia Law School for the Human Rights Institute or Human Rights Watch is titled Illusion Of Justice Human rights abuses in terrorism prosecutions and this is not at all what I thought it would be. And what did you find out?

1:50:19 This is about... Tell us more, Adam. Muslims being targeted this is exactly what Glenn Greenwald came out with of saying the NSA is targeting Muslims and we know that it the people who have been targeted by the FBI the SAPS who are you know tricked into doing things are not all Muslims But even right here in the summary document, this is the first line of this report. Muslims are a fundamental part of the American family In fact, the success of American Muslims and our determination to guard against encroachments on their civil liberties is the ultimate rebuke to those who say that we're at war with Islam That as they quote from President Barack Obama at the top of this document

1:51:11 And then the whole document goes on to talk only about American Muslims being tricked into committing acts of terror, and they focus specifically on the Newburgh Four. Those are those boneheads who had nothing? Remember those guys who were in a garage... Oh yeah, the guys in the garage were gonna blow up Florida! Exactly. And on The Human Rights Watch webpage they have a video with the president of the human rights and then also their Muslim lawyer or is that's not the right title but she essentially represents the Muslim cases

1:51:49 And I wanted to play this edited down version of that and remember you that the Human Rights Watch is paid for, their money comes from the State Department. So for some reason the State Department and i believe this coincides with Glenn Greenwald's Big revelation, the big fireworks that oh the NSA is targeting Muslim leaders. What is going on people? Why why is this? How about Christians and Jews and atheists and heteroflexibles? Why is it only the Muslims? Why are we doing this since September 11th attacks there have been over 500 people prosecuted for terrorism related offenses

1:52:30 And this is a number that sounds really big and it makes it sound like Americans are being kept safe from terrorism attacks. But we found that in a lot of these cases, people were prosecuted who never would have committed a terrorist act in the first place if it weren't for the involvement of the FBI. The theory behind some of these cases is that these people are terrorists-in-waiting. If the FBI hadn't shown up and taken them down the path of committing this terrorist act al-Qaeda would instead. But we don't have evidence of that actually happening." What this means is that American Muslim communities are being treated as suspect, that law enforcement approach them not just as partners in countering terrorism or providing information about potential terrorist attacks

1:53:11 but as places where terrorism could be bred. These were not individuals who were ever planning on their own to actually conduct terrorist activities, they were individuals who are vulnerable to being recruited. They're young men an 18-year old or people with mental illness schizophrenia the people who are susceptible because they want money and they could be bribed The prosecution of four men from Newburgh New York is really emblematic have a lot of the human rights violations that we've seen in federal terrorism prosecutions around the country These men were vulnerable, they needed money and they were lured in. You're taking four people who have never committed an act of terrorism before who have no political aspirations no means to commit the crime, no access to terrorists to help them commit the crime No access to the money to buy their weapons not even access to cars to get to the sites a potential attack The idea that law enforcement should do anything and everything to prevent the risk of a terrorist attack

1:54:08 means that there are people locked up in federal prisons right now who probably shouldn't be, people who are serving very long sentences who probably shouldn't be families that have been torn apart and communities around this country who live in fear. I think this can only be one thing the CIA ie the State Department Are now going after the FBI You know, we know that the FBI gets all this immunity in whistleblower cases. The FBI actually has...in this document they talk specifically about what the FBI can do and I'm going to scroll down here. And the only thing- Not to interrupt. Didn't we say on the show a number of times that we felt there was a battle between CIA NSA and the FBI?

1:54:55 By watching congressional testimonies, we saw this. The FBI was all in with the NSA." So here is yes and we know from the funding document that we looked at two weeks ago I think? That the president signed... Right! ...that the FBI is immune from a lot of the whistleblower activity and here in this document from Human Rights Watch Post 9-11 changes to priorities and rules governing federal terrorism investigations. And they say here more than 40% of the FBI's operating budget of $3.3 billion is now devoted to counterterrorism, however instead of authorizing limited criminal investigations the rules authorize and encourage the FBI to perform what amounts to expansive intelligence collection these changes include

1:55:47 increased surveillance of communications, colon. Congress expanded the communications that may be subject to surveillance under the FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and expansive information collection. The Department of Justice under revised Attorney General guidelines gave the FBI expansive authority to conduct pre-investigation assessments gathering information in the absence of suspicion of wrongdoing or threat to national security for unlimited periods. The FBI can now gather and store, in their databases, information about where individuals pray what they read and who they associate with The FBI may also task and recruit informants from a particular community without any articulable suspicion of criminal activity in contrast to previous limits

1:56:39 And then finally, invasive investigation techniques. FBI agents can now use invasive investigation methods attending religious services or political events or tracking an individual's movements without having a reasonable indication that anyone is breaking the law This is due to the substantial revisions of the Attorney General guidelines and FBI's Domestic Investigations & Operations Guide this is shit the President made up Some state and local law enforcement also engage in these activities, but they are not a focus of this report. No it's only the FBI and I think the FBI has the goods on a lot of people And this is the move they're making Well this is the old FBI. I mean J Edgar Hoover was known to have dossiers on everybody Yes

1:57:27 Yes, and this is one of the reasons they put that law into effect that you can't be in the FBI as the head Of the FBI for more than one or two terms except if you were there during 9-11 and we can just reinstate More years Robert Mueller went to 12 years. Of course, but The agree I think they probably do it's a blackmailing operation which is with the eds why they're in bed with the NSA Which is a blackmailing operation It's bad. Yeah, it was pretty bad! The CIA and the State Department probably don't like this so they would put just human rights watch which is a front for the state department would start to go after him in subtle ways and they'll probably be getting photos in the mail. Yeah. And want this photo on the National Enquirer? You like this photo we got here? Look at this little hooker you know she's underage right

1:58:18 Oh man, this is bad. Yeah? Goes on... Well you know that's just uh it'll be interesting to see how this plays out Generally speaking the uh the secret police side of the equation wins which means the FBI and the NSA will win in any battle that I can see unless they start, then those assassinations begin. They would beat the CIA State Department. Well, the problem is... Mono a mono? The problem is the timing you know this is the summer months we've got Putinism happening

1:58:56 You know, this is not the time you want to try and smear the FBI. This is just bad, bad marketing. Where's the Curry-Dvorak consulting group in all of this? Because we could have told them that! Just dumb!" Yeah, you gotta put these things...you gotta do some other stuff. I don't know what else they can do off the top of my head. I think this a difficult situation." No, it is. I mean they got rid of what's-his-name and that's as far as they could go with the head of the NSA who is now making apparently as a consultant he's making $1 million dollars a year here and there? He makes millions! A million dollar a month! Million dollar what?! Yes, a month for consulting for Wall Street. That's right we didn't talk about this story. He's making a million dollars a month this is...we're talking about Admiral... Kaiser Alexander

1:59:49 who's the head of the NSA, he quits. Retires on a government salary so he's double dipping and then he goes as a consultant for Wall Street because he's obviously a financial genius making $1 million dollars a month. So what do you think he is doing for that million dollars a month? Handing over state secrets I guess Why not! Well, it's ludicrous. Yes you are correct. We haven't really talked about anything but what do you think is going to happen next in just in the world because now we're in these cycles which are really I mean the six-week cycle...I can't even keep track of where we are. We had Lagarde saying something would light up on the 20th well there was... Nothing happened? Well the 17th was close enough

2:00:40 You know, there was actually a report that says that Russia may get kicked out of the G20. I thought that was kind of funny and it was close to what she was talking about But it's undeniable. Why would you kick Russia, one of the world's leading energy suppliers while in bed with Saudi Arabia I might add which is what we are? Why would you kick them out of the...I mean this is really doesn't anybody notice this is outrageous? Well this is the US- I don't care whether you like Putin or not nobody likes Putin but this is outrageous! Well I think it's the U.S., one thing we do better than everybody is propaganda. We are... Anyone can say, oh the Russians are doing propaganda? Sorry! We do it better than anybody we are Hollywood. We invented it thank you. We know how to do this and we aren't in essence waging a war on Europe I mean that's really what the United States not me not you but the neocons Carrie and The Gang they're waging a war on Europe and they're pressuring Europe

2:01:43 to be very cold this winter. Yes, no the Europeans... So essentially wait let's go and look at this over so what you're saying in a meta sense is in other words this will be an analysis You're saying that I would actually kind of agree with this because I always thought this was about Europe Because I always thought that Europe as an enemy once they formed the EU It's an enemy of the United States. The euro is an enemy of the dollar, are you kidding me? Exactly! And so now the idea is to change the game... So Russia is the bad guy and we talk Europe into being on our side First we set this up with the Dutch plane down We got all these different things going on Hold on hold on hold on No first he hates gays

2:02:28 Well, okay now if you want to bring all the stuff but let's say we had a long strategic attack. Look at it only from a propagandistic standpoint hates the gays hates dogs spent ripped off his country on building Sochi uh... you know that she was going to be a disaster and terrorist target yet any and the and he had any arrested all the greenpeace people in which you let go by the way of the pussy riot this year i have a serious what do we have a lot of So how could you like this guy? He's a horrible person because of all this. And so if we can get the Europeans on board where Russia says, okay and turns off the gas and starts shipping all the gas to China because they're not going to be... The Chinese aren't falling for any of this crap."

2:03:17 So all the gas and everything turns around away from Europe it goes toward China. We do get to sell some some gas to them because we have a lot of gas in our tankers that can be shipped to Europe to help out, but he's not gonna make up for the shortfall and we freeze them out! Well you know I'm just going... We send the gas through the elites. Let me say all i have to do is play this and you know exactly what our stance is. And we mean it! I think the whole thing is massive regime change because eventually, I think this is the idea and I don't think it's going to work in The Netherlands but the idea is

2:04:12 Keep pushing, keep pushing. Of course the Dutch government is not going to do anything! There are no sanctions... What are they gonna say? Oh I'm sorry yes i don't want to make any more money on this gravy train I'm riding so yeah you can't store your money You can have your money here for tax evasion You cant uh..have your legal cases here You cant store your gas here You cant transport your oil onto our ships in our harbor Really?! You think the Dutch government and the elites, who it's one big... I know this. I've lived in this country. It makes me mad how incredibly incestuous is it? And people don't understand so the only thing the elite here have is let's make everyone crazy! Let's make them crazy

2:05:01 And I don't think it's going to work because all what they got now is changing Twitter icons, but they want the people to vote for other leaders. That's kind of the irony. Yeah! The irony is this not working because everyone was like oh well change my Twitter icon and feel much better. I'm in and I've changed my Twitter icon. I've done my part. Yeah that...and so somewhere someone's running a dumb operation but that's the only thing that makes any sense we want to confuse the Europeans. Don't you think that's something like that? To make them all, maybe if they're just all confused and compliant... I mean, I don't know man but this is- We've done a pretty good job we've got the whole thing. I love the Marie Harf comment when she would say anything about the downed planes she'd always use the term pro Russian separatist controlled insurgents insert no she would say separatists okay

2:05:59 Pro-Russian, sorry I wrote it down. Pro Russian separatist controlled part of the Ukraine. Separatists Ukrainians everyone else would say but she always adds pro Russian and it's like okay pro Russians you say enough times that is pretty good! Yeah well... I'm liking it There's more about the EU And by the way since you brought this up I want to play a clip that maybe was just me but in yesterday's press conference Harf Reads a read she's reading it. She's not being sincere. It seems nice reads her is that thing about the dead plane riders on the downed 7 flight 17 and she reads it and I just thought there was an incredible note, I could tell me I'm wrong of insincerity

2:06:50 Like, oh and we'd like to say a memorial for the... let me see. M-A 17 dead. You just play it and maybe I'm just completely off base." Which clip is this? This would be Hard Insincerity reads Memorial sorry. Yeah First, I'm sure many of you have seen that today is the Dutch day of mourning. Today we join King Willem-Alexander Prime Minister Rutte and all the people in the Netherlands in mourning the loss of 193 Dutch residents who died when Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 was downed over eastern Ukraine

2:07:29 No words can adequately express the sorrow the world feels over this loss. On behalf of the American people, we again extend our deepest condolences to the families and loved ones of the victims of this terrible tragedy As the president said yesterday We will work with The Netherlands To make sure that loved ones are recovered That a proper investigation is conducted And that those responsible for the downing Of Flight MH17 Are brought to justice And second, a quick travel update for people. Yeah it's almost as I didn't clip it but Anderson Cooper pooper he's like oh this is so horrible and when the loved one passed and then he goes into his mother was like well my mother's brother committed suicide you know what? You never really get over it. It's all about him! This elitist ass wipe. Jeez...I just thought that hearth was just- No of course it's insincere. Insincere

2:08:21 Of course it is. Why do it if it's going to be that insincere and so transparently insincere? Just say, don't say anything! It wasn't needed Anyway, have you she said it when you know the way to get her just for people out there We want to get one of these jobs one of these is a new way I would do if you wanted because you're not gonna be sincere No say we would like to hear in the press room. We'd like to have a moment of silence Yeah, who died an MA 17? You having a moment of silence that would've been perfect and then you say oh You know, then you make some little comment and you're done. You don't read an insincere note like this just say a moment of silence it works great! She couldn't point to the Netherlands on the map... I got a note from producer Pierre have you seen A Clockwork Orange?

2:09:14 Over and over I've seen the unedited, sorry the unexpurgated version. The good one. So you remember Alex in the film? No who's Alex? You talking about the... Yeah Alex had... Bernie McDowell? Were they brainwashed? Sorry Malcolm McDowell? They're brainwashing control right? Alex? Yeah yeah If you go back and watch the movie which apparently you've done over and over They brainwash and control Alex while playing Beethoven's 9th Ode to Joy. Which is the European national anthem. I'm just saying! Catch of the day! I'm gonna show my soul by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab On NO AGENDA

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2:21:37 Alright, let's see. Oh I do have a quick war on weed clip from Washington State up there where you had the animal house that farm Which I think is a nice little bit of positioning. Watch out because we're talking the full weight of federal law coming down on you Local police call it the new meth today They announced they're teaming up with federal officials to take on illegal hash oil production in Washington State Today's charges show that we will take that threat seriously We will charge people and we will hold them accountable So this is the manufacturer of? Oil hash oil

2:22:16 Which if done incorrectly, yeah you can blow up the house. You can blow up the house with a lot of things But this is now a federal issue The feds are now coming down on you for trying to make hash oil It's the new meth! It's not the new meth? Did you hear them say it? It's the new meth How could it be the new meth Because Meth Labs blow up that's why Oh oh that...oh You see what they're doing? Why don't they call it the New Dynamite? Cause dynamite factories blow up Yeah Well there ya go Now here's a good one. This was interesting, I thought there were going to be this is story that was brought up to your buddy Josh Ernest

2:22:58 And it was about the Apollo 11 guy showing up, and then this guy was bent out of shape because they wouldn't let cameras in. And I thought this is interesting. I don't quite understand what you said though... The Apollo 11 showed up? What?! The Apollo 11 astronauts showed up as a celebration of landing on the moon. Ah okay yeah. They wouldn't let anybody film it and that became a point of contention. They would they wouldn't let-the press was not allowed to film the Apollo 11 guys showing up? No! They weren't And it's a pretty lame explanation. 11 representatives who are here at the White House today. Why the intense secrecy around this event? Why not allow television cameras into that?" It's merely a scheduling matter, John. There was a number of things on the President's schedule that was... We've had the trip to the Dutch Embassy today The President is making remarks over in the EEOB with the Vice-Presidents about job training

2:23:54 and the president needs to get on a plane at one o'clock this afternoon so there are...the President has a very busy schedule and we weren't able to accommodate television cameras this time. The last bulletin break took 38 seconds. Understood. And, I mean, the President's schedule couldn't he have been maybe five minutes later for the fundraiser out in Seattle? He really couldn't accommodate a few minutes for open coverage of it? Not this time John. Let me ask you because I find that explanation frankly a little hard to believe given that this is such a small amount of time to come in and have a little bit of... Well, I'll just say that in the past there have been some television journalists who've complained about the small amount of time that was granted. Yes, well I think I probably have been one of those but complaining when it's 38 seconds maybe could be a couple minutes but is it because

2:24:39 some of those Apollo astronauts including Neil Armstrong shortly before he died going to Congress was very critical of this president for the way that he has handled the space program. I mean, there's a word to Neil Armstrong who is a very private person as you know before Congress saying that the President's canceling of the Constellation Program was lamentably embarrassing and unacceptable Is that why the President did not want to see television cameras in his photo office? Absolutely not! The President invited the crew members of Apollo 11 to the White House to honor their contribution. to space exploration and to the innovation in the field of science. It's a genuine honor for the president to have him here today, and he is proud about that fact they chose to come I will also say we are proud of policy this president has put in place to take our space program to the next level We're very optimistic about the future of American Space Program. We believe in Science! Oh sounds like you blew them off

2:25:40 Yeah, sounds like that to me. Screw you all, yeah screw you! He didn't go there anyway what are you actors? he knows Obama knows I got an evergreen little thing i want to do okay Tom Hartman says something here within this clip oh it's only short look at the size of the Hartman clip look at what would you think how long eight seconds eight seconds i can handle eight seconds He's not that bad. Okay, well maybe he is. What? Go on let it play. Do you need to set it up or are we good? No this is just something in here I'm gonna use it on clips now you're gonna have to be aware of what's going to happen okay. There's every other direction they put an exchange there people love it! Is that the other direction hello

2:26:38 Hello? Yeah, what happened I played the clip and said this that in the other direction you didn't say anything No it's because the guy got cut off. I got the bing-bing Oh i'm sorry I didn't hear that Play the clip again so I can see what he says I think he says this is that in the other direction You know every other direction um they put an exchange there People love it! People love it! People love it! I just thought it was funny I'm gonna start using that cause his voice cracks and he says people love it I cannot wait until we finally get into the presidential elections for 2016. But, I love seeing everybody harp on Hillary but i love everyone you know big upping Elizabeth Warren. I love how Hillary went to Google You gotta see that uh... The Google talk with Eric Schmidt and Hilary He by the way he actually- The way he talks is a way above her It's pretty funny to watch

2:27:38 You know Eric's always been that way. Yeah, he's very very Haughty yeah But then of course we have Joe Biden who we know is you know Joe He's the guy there I look Putin in the eyes and he said you got no so run Yeah, you got no soul. I think Putin actually replied to him and said well You know how that feels then don't ya apparently in that exchange? I never heard this That's why it's a habit in the show notes So it must be true And then we have King Carrie And this is like, wow. I mean... So he did the what do they call that? The full Monty whatever when you're on every single Sunday news talk show the full Ginsburg i think it's what it's called for some reason so if you're on every single sunday talk show and of course he didn't actually travel to every show He sat in his office or wherever he was and yeah behind a green screen Yeah and did the satellite and uh you know they had kind of nondescript blue background running on the chroma key

2:28:36 And then he takes a call, like he doesn't know that he's on an open satellite channel and puts it on speakerphone. This is so orchestrated it's not funny Mr. Oh yeah well I'm here yeah It's just... He's so obvious this guy wants to be king of the world Then here's the fox guy calling him out on it or what do they think they call it? An extraordinary moment Well, he says it here. It's very funny while you're doing a series of interviews with all of the networks and While you were on camera and while you were on microphone You just spoke to one of your top aides in between the interviews About the situation in Israel And the fact that 14 Israelis have either been shot or killed in an operation We want to play a clip of that conversation because it's an extraordinary moment of diplomacy an extraordinary moment of diplomacy

2:29:34 an extraordinary moment diplomacy you're so awesome take a look at those it's a hell of a pinpoint operation it's a hell of a pinpoint operation right we've got to get over there fire up the jet get it ready get the jet ready we gotta get over there what are we waiting around for let's go Thank you, John. I think we ought to go tonight. It's crazy to be sitting around. Crazy! Crazy to be sitting around and we gotta go! Hold on a second... Extraordinary moment of diplomacy? Yes it is. Don't be alarmed. We're here unofficial business. Yeah! Extraordinary moment of diplomacy. I've never heard anything so extraordinary as that fantastic exchange. That's the clip of the day. Really? I don't have anything that would beat that

2:30:30 I screw you, i'll take it. I've been so good lately. Extraordinary moment of diplomacy! Now what's wrong with that guy? Here is the extraordinary moment of diplomacy... So Annette is the land of unconfirmed... Yes we came, We saw, He died. That was diplomacy. We killed Gaddafi, remember that? We came in and we killed him. Yeah yeah so you have to do it there's more to this clip I don't know what I have on. Secretary Kerry when you said it's a hell of a pinpoint operation by the way secretary Kerry you're just awesome can I just suck your left testicle for a moment because that was some extraordinary display of diplomacy which is great! I'm just hard here are you upset that the Israelis are going too far and in fact do you intend to go back to the Middle East tonight sir

2:31:23 I think it's very, very difficult in these situations. Obviously very difficult. Obviously! Very difficult that is why i'm so awesome you're lucky i am on the job You have people who come out of tunnels you have a right to go in and take... It's bridge and tunnel people now ...take out those tunnels we completely support that Yeah And we support... blah blah blah Extraordinary Extraordinary and then Obama had to come out later and say oh yeah ask Kerry to go Did you catch that? Yeah. I don't have a clip of it, but... I didn't notice that. Oh yeah of course! That'd be right. No no i told him to go damnit he doesn't call the shots here. Yeah I'm the boss. I am the guy who uh- I AM THE BOSS Funny thing I was reading um another article about Joe actually think it's New Yorker Magazine let me see if I have this about Joe Biden is very funny where Joe Biden of course he's a punchline just had to say Joe Biden people laugh

2:32:20 and that's kind of what they say in this article, but that Air Force Two Armrests are coming off. If you want to sit in his office on Air Force Two, one person can join him but the next has to sit on a box and Apple crate or something. I'll put it in the show notes. They have a maintenance issue? Is that what they're trying to convey? Yeah. It's an 0777 isn't it? No, I'm sorry no 7707. I think it is. I'm not. Yeah, yeah, okay. I'm going to look it up? Okay you know how we do that is very simple. Consult the book of knowledge! I think we just say New Yorker Magazine Joe Biden and then come up with The Biden Agenda here we go that's the title of it newyorker.com and uh its taking forever to load here we

2:33:22 I can just search for it. You're right, you're right. Of course i'm right! On Easter Sunday Biden boarded Air Force 2. Text is C32 It has jumper seats. On Easter Sunday, Biden boarded Air Force Two bound for Kiev the beleaguered Ukrainian capital compared with the commander-in-chief the vice president flies in restrained splendor The modified Boeing 757 was well used an armrest came off and a passengers hands The Vice President had a private cabin with a foldout bed a desk and a guest chair But if a second visitor arrived a plastic cooler passed as a seat I mean, come on. Sounds like you're going into Tokyo for a bombing run and shaking and baking in that thing! I find that to be somewhat insulting to the vice president. You know Kerry's got... what does Kerry fly? I think he flies whatever can get on. I don't know if he has his own jet maybe it's private jet maybe its Gulfstream we do not know that is good question we have to look at this Secretary of State

2:34:29 Aircraft? No, because Clinton always... Hillary had... Let's see. Air Force 3! Oh really?! There was an air force three? It's a Boeing C-17 Globemaster. Hmmmm.... Now I think he is flying in something else All here all transport heads of state oh there is a wiki page on this Of course By the way I looked at my Wikipedia page just for yucks today That thing is so wrong Your wiki page. Oh, well I like it. I like that It's wrong. Well leave it then do what could why you complaining? It says at one point ID the judge ordered me to pay back 250 million dollars Wow, I think it was two hundred fifty thousand or something but its 250 mil This is your way back when and now helicopter company make somebody change it he had if you hadn't made oh

2:35:20 Stupid! So what was the 250 million dollars for? The whole thing is ludicrous and they didn't put in there that later the judge, the IRS had to apologize to me for being wrong but they didn't put that in. You get your 250 million dollars back? Yeah I got it right here. It's a doorstop here. I got a big clump of gold And don't say anything funny, because you know it'd piss me off. That's touchy! The C-17 Globemaster? That's a better plane than the 757! This is a great plane! It's nice and big

2:36:00 55 feet high and 170 feet long. The cavern is C-17 Globemaster, equally at home carrying a cargo of army vehicles, a battle tank which would be Hillary... We're phalanx of diplomats John Kerry's plane here we go This was the motive choice for Secretary of State Hillary she knows dummy I have an article here John Kerry's plane Oh, it's just a... Well they have a picture of her inside this thing. This thing is huge! Yeah that- This looks like you're in the press briefing room. It's got ten seats across desks Nice Monitors That's just mean And then the back of the plane though does look like an old C17 thats what so funny Its just mean they give Joe the one with arms coming off and stuff thats not okay I mean we know the guys ya know booby

2:36:56 I gotta say, we got to get...I'm gonna send you this link to put in the show notes of Hillary's plane. It means that interesting." Okay but i wonder what Kerry is flying on? But the way he says it gas it up! We gotta go yeah gas it up gas it up get the plane ready this is outrageous hell of a pinpoint operation I'm doing some outstanding what was it political diplomacy what was the word forgotten already okay um I have one email I need to read you This is a second but this is it's very interesting how This mean that we've picked up from the IRS his first name may have been Ben So what guy named Ben dude named Ben dude named Ben. This is the general description for IT

2:37:51 Administrators, systems administrators. The people who actually make stuff run... Yeah make it actually work. ...have just been relegated down to a dude named Ben. Dude named Ben which of course is not okay. It's not okay. That's your Ben! Well hey there this is NOT Ben this is Hey Idiot That's his handle. But I feel like a typical dude named Ben as i report on the further spread of the dude name Ben meme while doing an advisory panel survey for ITPro.tv, I was asked to view some marketing videos one of which I have enclosed a clip of. I captured the audio at the beginning... The video is one of those horrible fast whiteboard drawing things which it is you know? The ones that we do not like

2:38:44 This is Hey Idiot of Atlas McDowell, executive producer Noah Jenner Show 579. Here's the marketing video. Dude named Ben. Oh here it is. This is Ben. Ben has a knack for technology and computers He'd like to have a job. Yeah, this is the marketing video! I love it! This is Ben. Ben has a knack for technology and computers A KNACK! He'd like to have a job using his skills but everywhere he applies the door is slammed shut Oh no! To be hired Ben needs the proven technical knowledge and certification required by reputable high-paying companies. He is stuck between a rock and a hard place Dude named Ben

2:39:27 The dude-named Ben thing is everywhere. It's universal! You know, there's a funny thing going on too which is all these certifications and things that keep people occupied because they can't get work? So I ran into one at the wine store... Oh? Now you can get certified as kind of a wine sales guy so you'd get a job in a liquor store And it's like two grand to take the course on. You learn a little bit about wine, I guess and you taste some wines and you'll learn about sales and...I don't know what you get out of it to be honest but but it seems high. Seminars when I was a kid, you could take these things and they would teach your stuff not necessarily give you certification just stuff you needed to learn It was like wasn't that much. You could be in apprenticeship all kinds of cool stuff

2:40:16 Used to be all kinds of things you could do. Now it's all a jip. Really? Let's get the Turkey stuff out of the way! Oh yes, well they just arrested another 50 cops... Well this will indeed be part of clip Turkey 1. For last two days there are about 104 or 105 police chiefs in Turkey arrested How do you view this development? We are closely following these developments and I understand they're related to the ongoing corruption investigations in Turkey including the recent arrest of some 100 police officials. We have repeatedly said that any investigation should be conducted in a fair, transparent and democratic manner we have in the past made clear our concerns about Turkey's due process and effective access to justice and will continue talking with Turks about it So these arrests

2:41:12 those police chiefs, actually some of them or most of them who launched those corruption investigations. So this is kind of a hundred, 80%. I don't have any more details beyond what I just shared. So what do you think about those corruption investigations started about eight months ago? As we just said as I just said, any investigation like these should be conducted in a fair transparent and democratic manner. Democratic? We continue to support the Turkish people's desire for judicial system that meets the highest standards of fairness, timeliness and transparency. You guys clean it up. That guy's stalling that air to win.

2:41:50 So while Stalin is kicking ass and arresting all the cops that started the corruption investigations, Turkey 2 I think is a little more revealing. And these of course are the gulenists who were... Yeah, the gulenist. The guy that we're protecting effectively in self-imposed asylum. Now you said this will make you understand clip two a little better. And your last question on Turkey about The strategic relationship? Yes. Yesterday, Prime Minister Erdogan expressed his disappointment that he cannot reach or he doesn't talk to President Obama anymore

2:42:33 Would you able to confirm that this news? I didn't actually see those comments. Obviously for the President's conversations, the White House can speak mostly or best to that in terms of the Secretary's conversations obviously he speaks all the time with Foreign Minister Davutoglu He spoke with him twice yesterday Spoke with him a number times over the last few days as well so we have an ongoing dialogue Let's do Iraq and then Afghanistan Very quickly, the Parliament failed today Well, as we said at the beginning Turkey is next and it's logical. We need to control turkey Look at what's going through turkey? There's no way we can let some Yahoo run the show No He can't run that That's why they're not talking to him anymore It's like what's the point well They're not talking to him this I bet he um If you look it's funny if you look at the map in fact Let me look at uh let's go to the map of Turkey

2:43:33 Okay, are you doing this with me just for you? No not yet. I go to the map of Turkey okay turkey map a turkey all right now Just the Google Map everybody in the chat room do this okay if you have to say map of Turkey You get a pretty nice Nice open thing there that's it's a good review now Let's take a look at Turkey wait a minute i'm gonna Go down the street view and drive around oh no no no no see usak no no you can Do that in a minute Now just let's just look at everything around Turkey Syria Iraq Georgia Ukraine Bulgaria Egypt Israel I mean this place is surrounded Libya you got the place surrounded Greece it's surrounded yeah, we're surrounded and we're moving in because of the It is a

2:44:32 Dorchevland. It's a pass-through country and we cannot have a bunch of crazy guys running that, which is why... but you know and now he's kicking out I'm sure that these police officers and all the so called corruption etc., I'm sure that these are the guys that we've put in place who were running through Gulen which is why we protect him there in Pennsylvania at his compound And our plot is being foiled Obama's not talking to him. Of course, Obama isn't talking to anybody but you know... Talking to his caddy? You know we have uh.. We're gonna be running the gas pipelines through Georgia and I don't if we're going run it into ummm.... I dunno where we should run it through Turkey probably but we just can't have these guys running anything! They are not trustworthy so let's just look at this and end the show on this If you and I were at bat here right

2:45:35 And we've got these bricks. The bricks are moving in on our turf, on the poppies in Afghanistan We need to get rid of their whole idea of using whatever currency whether it's ReminiB or whether it's the SDR or Euro or whatever it is and we just really want to own everything What would the next move be? Well from the way I see it they've got too many right now too many irons in the fire It's like they're trying to rubbleize everything. And of course the key, the real good way to do it which is I think you might be hinting at with a Ukrainian situation where they are just going to let it go fester and rubbleize itself because if you let these things

2:46:23 sit there when rubble is a shin begins as a form of deterioration and just continues in continues and continues unless somebody international forces stop it and even when they stop it like what we started rebel eyes and libya once we pulled out it went back to be robbed by the national air force all shot up and it's a mess in libya but oil was flowing that's the good news yeah well they got it they always know what the isolation get dead pipelines safe in the world feels pumping like you do in Iraq, which has got our buddies the Kurds who seem to be very reliable people. Doing a great job there headquarters is the Turkish embassy in Mosul. Use our apartment! Use our Pied-a-terre So that's all

2:47:15 working out in the way it should. I don't know how you'd begin to rubble...I think they tried to do it with their first, you know, the rise that took place and Erdogan got wind of it or he did something to counteract it. I think it should have been rubbalized by now. I think is not as easy as it looks. I'm not sure we can accomplish this. Interesting! Well, we also don't want to cut off our nose despite our face because there's very important stuff running through Turkey And the port of Seyhan is where we've got the... You know, I hate to say this because it's nothing we really bring up on the show. We discuss it occasionally in the economic hitman book talks about it. I think it might just take an assassination. Ooh! Red Book? Yep. I think you've got a point there. Who is second-in-line? Second-in-line Turkey let's see

2:48:08 Mm-hmm. That's not the way to do the search Second line in the theater of the other day there was a big line Succession second in line for my Apple iPhone Yeah, here we go Turkish p.m.. Mm-hmm I would love to look at this yeah, well doing it that for the next show We don't need four names forever one successor Okay, well this is very interesting when you... Well let's just do this and I'll end it. Let's just do Erdogan assassination. Erdogan assassinatio- oop, screwed that up hold on. Erdogan assasination

2:48:56 Let's see what pops up. And it has to be done by an Armenian, by the way... Well we have... Here is an accused Mossad. Turkish police foil and this is June! June there were Turkish police foiled an assassination bid on Erdogan. We didn't even hear about this. Seven arrested? No that was January 2013 May 4th, Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan's safe after convoy attack. Okay so they're shooting at him already? Oh yeah this- Yeah exactly Well good call Good call You got it Nailed it We'll take that We just gotta find out who is gonna take over now Yeah And thats why he had to get rid of the cops cause the cops are letting the assassins in

2:49:37 Imagine being that guy. Yeah, yeah I know this guy's doesn't look good It's not a suspect was arrested the gun was found to contain a nine millimeter bullet Oh It's a nine millimeter gun is what you're trying to say all you need All right everybody some by snipers that could shoot at two miles one thing for sure You'll never hear anyone on CNN say I think he's going assassination No, you won't hear that on CNN. In fact they would fire you if even suggested such a thing because it's rude You can't even suggest that the State Department acts with political motives and you get yelled at by the elites So take that bro. That could have been clip of the day too Bloomberg all right everybody thank very much Please remember us for this Sunday show we do need all the help We can get we're just out here trying to bring you a healthy news diet

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