Episode 620 · Monday, 26 May 2014

Dead Man Cuffed

A dead suspect is handcuffed in Santa Barbara as the media machine pivots from the Isla Vista tragedy to a viral war on women.

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About this episode

Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown faces scrutiny after deputies reportedly handcuffed Elliot Rodger despite the suspect being obviously dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. The Isla Vista shooting has triggered a wave of media memes regarding the War on Women and the #YesAllWomen hashtag, even as investigators reveal a script-like 140-page manifesto titled My Twisted World. The document details Rodger’s Hollywood connections through his father, Peter Rodger, and a history of mental health treatment involving the drug Risperdal.

President Barack Obama issued a memorandum setting a national goal to process 100 million international travelers by the end of the decade, yet Customs and Border Patrol continues to face criticism for the systemic detention of green card holders at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Airport. In the wake of the VA scandal involving manipulated waiting lists in Arizona, the White House is accused of staging spontaneous public interactions with vetted employees. Meanwhile, James O'Keefe released a sting operation capturing environmental filmmakers agreeing to accept millions from Middle Eastern oil interests to fund anti-fracking cinema.

John C. Dvorak revisits his 1984 Macintosh predictions and admits to being wrong about the computer mouse while maintaining his stance on Apple’s initial memory limitations. The show also explores the bizarre Robot Restaurant in Tokyo and the effectiveness of the Google Translate app for navigating Japanese kanji. Sir Ready Kilowatt and Sir Streggalicious join the show’s knighthood as the production team navigates technical glitches from their recent Tokyo recording sessions.


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CHAPTER 01 / 57 Discussion

Dvorak, Larry Tesler, and 1984 Macintosh Predictions

John C. Dvorak reviews a 1987 column responding to a letter from Apple Vice President Larry Tesler regarding Dvorak's 1984 predictions about the Macintosh. The discussion covers Dvorak's original skepticism regarding the computer mouse, bundled software, and high-resolution graphics. Dvorak admits to being wrong on several points while maintaining he was correct about the machine's initial high price and memory limitations.

john c. dvorak· larry tesler· apple computer· macintosh· xerox parc· mouse· dot matrix

00:00 The calle 24 Latino Cultural District. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday May 25th 2014 it's time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 620 This is no agenda Back in FEMA region six at the Travis Heights hideout and feeling the love of Gitmo nation in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I've returned I'm John C. Dvorak It's crackpotting mothskill In the morning Normally you give me a little more than that. I ran into my column from June 26 1987 which ended up on the desk here, i have no idea why Which is called... You know they call me about the mouse? Wait yes do you want to bring that up it's fine with me Here's one from three years later I should read some of this Now let's just let them let me immediately recap this

01:00 This is the famous quote... In 1984, in 1984 this was written. Which by the way is a very valid quote but has been so often misquoted Yeah, by a bunch of fanatics and douchebags Well you know it doesn't matter because sometimes you just can't change history Although in Europe you could probably have all those quotes pulled off the internet I think that will happen here eventually So you said there is no evidence people will want to use a mouse. Right, and at that time there was no evidence? No there was of course not. Yeah okay so what this is the famous column... should we reprint that put it in the show notes or...? I actually have printed it's been on the net here and there but here's the one uh this was a column three years later and it was titled 15 reasons the Mac has been a success

01:52 And here, let me just read. I received a letter from Larry Tesler, vice president of advanced technology at Apple Computer. Tesla was one of the brains behind Macintosh and before that he was one of the main... He was the man with... That he was a one-man team. It's all scrunched up as it is in newspaper column reading from this old thing. It's yellow He was a one-man tornado at Xerox Palo Alto Research Center. He writes, enclosed is the clipping of an article you wrote in 1984 have you ever written to follow up evaluating your 15 reasons why the Macintosh may fail? With the benefit hindsight yours Larry Tesler." So I go on and on about first they talk a little bit about them feedback i got in that column here it again so turns out that i was right on all counts

02:46 Which is, I've proven this column. Alright but what do you mean? Just give me the top five so we understand Okay well gripe number one... Well let's go to here, it's a gripe number... Let's start with six Gripe number six was no bundled software. That's one of the reasons it may fail There still isn't any it turns out that the Mac users are so copy crazy than everyone Has everything for free anyway, so I okay that when I was wrong on gripe seven a mouse who wants these things wrong? This is great. I've been converted right number three smallish keyboard

03:25 or gripe test, gripe number eight. The company's new keyboard corrected this complaint and have the... I agree that was a problem yeah. Gripes 8 and 10, 9 and 10 high resolution graphics in font capacity are not discernible benefits by anyone but professional typesetters and this is still true but Apple's business seminars are doing their best to educate business people Gripe 11 the machine only drives a dot matrix and business Businesses one letter quality well Apple leapfrogged everybody and jumped from dot matrix to laser writer in one fell swoop It's a fabulous device, but that was a complaint. That was corrected Are you feeling a little down about yourself that you know this is on your desk? And no no I did somebody put it here There's enough the place

04:14 Gripe 4, it's too expensive. And 128k is not enough." Yeah those are both right. Both of those are right. Anyway I go on and on but except for the two mistakes... ...I was right on 13 of the points! Can you scan that and send it to me? Scan it and send it in. It's fun to put it into show notes. Yeah I'll do that. Anyway we're both back at our home bases I'm back in Austin, Texas. John is back in Southern California. Yeah there you go and of course a little wacky jet lag yeah your to you have to be jet-lagged little bit we're both waking up around 3am

CHAPTER 02 / 57 Discussion

Customs and Border Patrol, Mickey's Detention at Atlanta Airport

A host describes a stressful re-entry into the United States at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Airport involving Customs and Border Patrol. His wife, Mickey, was detained in an office for questioning despite having a green card, a recurring issue the host attributes to systemic harassment. The segment details the interaction with officers who suggested citizenship as a solution to avoid future detentions.

customs and border patrol· department of homeland security· atlanta hartsfield-jackson· global entry· resident alien· citizenship

04:57 With nothing better to do than you know what? I'll keep you busy. But, I woke up specifically at... so we came back We left in the future and came back in the past then we were back home Friday evening oh yes of course I forgot to mention returning into the United States Part 59 Atlanta Hartfield Jackson Airport So we boogie on out of the plane. We go again! Mickey is off, now we both get a little stressed because we know what's coming

05:40 And we roll right up and we get to the counter of a...and by the way, people get very confused. It's not the TSA who are giving us hassle coming into the country it's Customs and Border Patrol. It is all part of Department of Homeland Security. Right. And it used to be part of the State Department which is why it's all messed up now because the State Department has just won I mean that Department of Homeland Security is you know huge Huge horrible beast or after 9-11 anyway, so we roll up and the guy is a little you know he's like Alright, well you friends to traveling together. We're married okay?

06:19 And then he looks at my passport and I'm like, yeah. What were you there for? Just visiting friends no business not just visiting friends hanging out Uh-huh Yeah, did you bring anything back in? No How much money do you bring in this is the first of it that been asked about the money It's money. I guess we look like money traffickers You do a little bit said by him on 200 bucks was about true and then of course he knows and Mickey's thing swipes her green card You know, you gotta put your finger on the green glass and he takes the picture and he says well yeah okay. You're good to go it says to me but now... ...you're going into the office and I guess it's not the first time huh? And we both say nah. Mickey is very happy. Okay let me get that hold on a second lets stop right here

07:11 Now, they have been pulling...they know because it's on the record apparently since they scanned the card and that she has been dragged into this office over and over again. Right? Or they wouldn't have said that! That is exactly right! That is proof that they know this is bull crap because there was nothing new their going to discover. Which all of a sudden she says okay I'm sick of this, I am guilty What are they expecting?! Well actually it got a little worse I have to say, I am disappointed in myself. We had a very short window this time we had about 45 minutes to get through customs Get our gear and then you know get on the flight to Austin And i'm disappointed in myself but it's one thing- You mouthed off! I did not mouth off that I'm disappointed in myself so anyway he says

08:03 Oh, you know so this is not the first time and then he says you know there's a You can solve this really easily by becoming an American citizen And I'm and we looked at each other and I said in Dutch to make issues don't respond just leave it because first of all Fuck you, Mr. Customs Border Patrol! I mean what is this? Is this now... You're doing this to make force her to become an American citizen? Point two, uh, you have to have a resident alien status for i believe it's five years before you can even apply for citizenship so it's just not true and point three as an american citizen i was detained without reason for three years

08:50 Right, it was part of...it was actually a skit in our show. Yeah! And I said, ugh, let me just forget about it and moved on and she went- It was really fast In & Out they know her now Mickey how you doing? The whole thing is such a scam Everybody knows Could they please just put a little thing on her A little flag, remove the flag on her record whatever it is So she signed up for global entry We have to drive to Houston To do our interview So that at least we've got all that set up and who knows they may say oh no I'm sorry we can't let you use global entry. By the way while all this is happening, the president actually was out in the field talking about his memorandum establishing a national goal and developing airport specific action plans to enhance the entry process for international travelers to the United States. In fact i have a clip

CHAPTER 03 / 57 Discussion

Obama, National Goal for International Traveler Entry Process

President Barack Obama issued a memorandum establishing a national goal to enhance the entry process for international travelers to the United States. The initiative aims to increase tourism from 70 million to 100 million visitors by the end of the decade to boost economic growth. Critics argue the President's rhetoric, including mentions of the Baseball Hall of Fame, ignores the reality of poor treatment at the border.

barack obama· customs· tourism· world tourism organization· baseball hall of fame· economic growth

09:45 Oh, very nice. About the whole thing going on and to me I was a jaw dropper because I don't know anybody...I go to you know it's your trade show or something I run into a lot of people from overseas Brazil is a perfect example and I asked him about the experience and they all have the same thing to say this is you have a bunch of assholes at the border yes but here meanwhile this tourism clip Here meanwhile is Obama going on about how you know this is actually a money maker for us. Why are we trying to turn people away when this apparently is a profit center? We're as a country, we're gonna die if we don't have more tourism! And if you're hoping for holiday in the United States well President Barack

10:23 Barack Obama is trying to make it easier for you. Yeah, but it's not that personal really he's really just trying to help boost the American economy He says that by boosting tourism he's going to try and cut those long and frustrating customs line at airports That could include installing automated passport controls and more staff The U.S is currently the world's second biggest tourist destination after France, that's according to the World Tourism Organization. 70 million people visited the US last year Obama hopes to make that figure hit 100 million by the end of the decade he says tourism plays a vital role in the us economy. Tourism translates into jobs and it translates into economic growth when visitors come here they don't just check out the hall

11:08 They rent cars, they stay in hotels. They eat at restaurants and that means for upstate New York the baseball hall of fame is a powerful economic engine Okay, first of all but besides the baseball Hall of Fame and that's where it's given this speech right was coming in from say France or Belgium or Japan maybe Maybe they'd go to yeah. The Japanese are crazy about baseball But it doesn't mean they're gonna go to the Baseball Hall of Fame They've got their own hall of it This is the fact that he threw that in shows He doesn't have a clue about anything

CHAPTER 04 / 57 Discussion

White House, Staged Media Events and Propaganda

The White House is criticized for staging "spontaneous" public interactions, such as President Obama's walk to the Department of the Interior and a visit to Zingerman's deli in Ann Arbor. Reports indicate that employees were vetted and posed as customers for photo opportunities. The White House press corps has expressed frustration over being excluded from these events in favor of official government videographers and photographers.

white house· barack obama· zingerman's· press corps· propaganda· rosa parks· photography

11:46 But that just me well, they keep me he's now on some kind of trip and I'm you know it's all ministry of truth And my god the propaganda walk. He did was just outrageous Did you see this thing that was on YouTube? He so he needed to let's see there's raw video and the White House posted He needed to walk over to the Department of The interior I think. He needed to go then instead of, you know going by car or whatever helicopter for all I know... ...he decides to walk and it's like this spontaneous moment And which is not, and of course only the White House's own videographer is out there filming this. The whole thing is a complete propaganda, these shaking hands... Okay I have a story! I'm having a meetup in Detroit, second one and I got the story from a guy who works at Zingerman's which is this big deli in Ann Arbor that everybody knows about they own half the town of Ann Arbor Obama comes to visit

12:49 And so the front guys of advanced team comes in and said, we gotta get security clearances on every employee. So they started doing all this research and then they set up this photo shoot with employees posing as customers. All with security clearances. They pack all their employees from the various Zingerman operations, they have a bunch of stores around that do different things. And they put them all in the deli and then they had Obama coming in it- The whole thing was a fake! It was a phony he's like oh hi how you doing? Oh how are you doing? And it's all bullcrap there was just a complete facade malarkey full of crap this is the way this country's going with this nonsense

13:35 Photoshops that aren't even close to being real and a lot there's not a lot of talk about this although there There have been letters sent etc. But of course you're not really hearing about it on the on the mainstream news certainly the I'm not sure about the videographers, but the press corps the photograph the photographers in the press corps are Really angry that the White House More and more is having their own guys, and it's the one guy who's been around ever since Reagan I think does most of the work his name escapes me They're publishing photos that they style and dress And and light and and they're publishing that on their own social media. Oh

14:15 And the press corps is being excluded from these staged events. Hey, you can do it! Get away with it? Why wouldn't ya?! Yeah and that... Because the press corps are a bunch of parrots half the time anyway or pushovers and so they just push them as far as you can before they... They haven't done anything about it And there's been questions about it and you know, there's been some... yeah just some... just that not much. You know? And it's for the public doesn't really understand how incredibly wrong this is that it's taking place. See there was I was reading that there's a whole bunch of articles about this. You can duck-duck go it! I'm trying to get into my vocabulary. You can DDG it

14:58 There was one where he was in a bus, like it was... He was someplace where I guess they make new buses and they had an antique bus. Maybe it was the one that Rosa Parks was on? And he's in the bus in the Rosa Parks seat, they lighted... The whole description of how this went down And it was passed off by the White House as, you know, oh he just sat there and reflected for a moment. But when it really happened... It was lit everything they kept people off the bus nuts I mean that's it that is truly Nazi propaganda stuff we have some powder for the president's for you Oh please! Hey key light! He's probably got gaffers and you know guys with knocking their lights around with sticks my favorite

CHAPTER 05 / 57 Discussion

TSA, Valet Service and Gay Interaction Anecdote

A host recounts a positive experience with TSA agents in Atlanta, contrasting them with Customs and Border Patrol. The story focuses on a specific interaction with a flamboyant male agent who assisted with carrying multiple laptops and bags through the security line. The host jokingly refers to the assistance as a "valet service."

tsa· atlanta airport· security screening· valet service· anecdote

15:47 Anyway, so we do get through and then we rush off to the... of course you have to go through security. It's really interesting that you have to go through security once again. Yeah I find that annoying But you don't have to show your ticket or anything And I will say each time the Atlanta TSA has been actually quite enjoyable It's such a... they're so the opposite, polar opposite of the Customs Border Patrol guys. And we both opt out and we got helped really quickly and it was I got a super super gay guy!

16:22 Totally! And he had, you know, diamond earrings. You know the black guy and he had the kind of like the ball players that big diamond earring in each ear lobe yeah and I had a lot of stuff and he's uh... He's like what your stuff? But he really and I'm not just when he said what's your stuff? What was he referring to okay well because it's part of the service The massage is valet service, and they take they pick your stuff. You're allowed to touch Oh, oh, I thought you talk about some other stuff no No And any of so he has to carry it like two laptops me I got the Portable studio bag a laptop bag of course my shoes My belt you know my money clip all this stuff

17:05 And I'm saying, God this is really a fantastic valet service. I'm goading him! Anyway it was really nice and it was funny you know? It's kind of... You know how I am with gay guys they love me yeah that was really nice oh by the way leaving Japan There's an exit process. Yeah, don't you have to buy an exit ticket to get out? No no purchase... Tax! No tax Oh there used to be when I was there You had to pay like a hundred yen to get out or something like that for a thousand. They do take the little thing out of your passport and you have a little piece of tear-away cardboard whatever

CHAPTER 06 / 57 Discussion

Narita Airport, Japanese Security and Audio Gear Inspection

An exit from Japan through Narita Airport involved a detailed security inspection of a podcast equipment bag. Security officers required the removal of all items, including a Rode microphone and ham radio gear, for separate screening. A Japanese policeman also recorded the traveler's passport details on a handwritten form during the process.

narita airport· japan· security screening· rode microphone· ham radio· police

17:42 Yeah, they staple in upon entry. Those things on yeah like kind of like a like an island Yeah People should be aware that a lot of times you'll go and it'll give you some sheet of paper And you better not lose none enough put it in the passport well this is they stapled it into mine That's nice. That's good people were losing it I'm sure Of course It's a nice little little Japanese lady there and I said, did you enjoy your stay? Yeah. It was great at a good time Oh will you come back to yeah. Yeah, I think so looking forward to it Okay when we come back just the Tokyo or no saying I'm gonna like me she's actually is a Japanese CIA and she's grilling in you don't even know what did happen is going through the security I Don't want to say checkpoint because that's what everyone hate the word checkpoint

18:33 But going through security at Narita Airport, and how many times have I gone through security with this bag? This big podcast bag which contains... It looks like bomb-making gear. And not only that but it has the Rode microphone in there which most of the time they just want to see because they think it's a vibrator and they want to embarrass me. They got you know there's all this stuff and I don't think I've ever had open it up ever except once in Amsterdam just to show the microphone And these guys said, oh you know we need to look at this. I said sure and you know can open it up yeah and then he starts taking everything... I've said hold on a second man let me help you with this because it's tightly packed and I've got my... Well you do that in the United States... No no touching! Not a problem. Also the guy was really nice

19:19 But he wanted everything out. And I had packed this thing and it contained the audio device, but also had my ham rig in there... ...and fed antenna wires and everything's compartmentalized perfectly so everything has to come out! Then he sends all that through separate from the bag and then said do you even want to know what it is? He said no. But then while this was happening a Japanese policeman comes over He says, may I see your passport please? And he says sure. And uh...he says do you mind if i write this down? No and he has a sheet of paper then he's drawing little squares on it and he writes down my details. I think probably is just his job to write shit down or he has to hand in- Is this as you were entering the country? As we're leaving the country Why did they give us shit anyway go on! I don't know but I found it peculiar

CHAPTER 07 / 57 Discussion

Podcast Meetups, Detroit and Japan Listener Engagement

The hosts discuss the logistics of organizing listener meetups in Detroit and Japan. One host explains the use of mailing lists to coordinate with approximately 40 attendees in Michigan and addresses complaints from listeners who missed the events. They emphasize the importance of reiterating information for the audience.

detroit· michigan· japan· mailing list· listener engagement· pr

20:20 Just going back to your meetup briefly, did you publish or publicize these meetups? Because a lot of people... Yes. We talked about it on the show a number of times This is the problem with not being au courant on your episodes I talked about it on our show a couple of times and I talked about it on Twit which has the massive audience. Which is our PR arm. And it's our PR arm, I talked about it on Twitter and told people the same thing too and I think I even tweeted...I believe I tweeted at least once so you probably could have done more there. Alright good. Just send me an email with the subject Michigan or Detroit, I know this is Detroit and we'll create...so I created a mailing list We had about 40 people on the mailing list and they're gonna keep to group together

21:10 And a bunch of people, laggers come in at the last minute and they say I never heard of it. Yeah You know too bad! I mean you could send me still send me a message and get on the major mailing list that they're gonna create for a group and then if i go back you'll be on top of it Even Japan? I'm still getting emails from people in Japan oh man can't believe I missed it. There ya'go You got to keep up the speed. One more tip and then I'll... Three months behind listening to the show, for some reason—I don't know why anyone would do that, to be honest about it—I don't buy into well there's these cute little things you say that are important later we usually reiterate. You're a big fan of reiterating! You come and I don't do it as much as you do. It's important. We re-brief these people on what we're talking about? Yeah, no, it's important. And so my first boss Lex Harding taught me

CHAPTER 08 / 57 Discussion

Tokyo, Robot Restaurant and Google Translate App

A discussion of travel experiences in Tokyo highlights the "Robot Restaurant" and a detailed report on the venue published on Boing-Boing. The hosts also recommend the Google Translate mobile app for navigating Japan, noting its effectiveness in communicating with cab drivers and translating kanji addresses.

tokyo· robot restaurant· google translate· vice magazine· travel tips· kanji

22:02 So you can never reiterate too much because people are stupid. Now, it doesn't mean our producers or listeners are stupid but he says the more you do that you'd be amazed it works so well. I figured a couple things out one You'll recall always talking about the glass hole who we saw at the Texita Street to the Japanese schoolgirl street and then again at At The Robot Restaurant The robot? The Robot Restaurant. Oh, Robot! Robot. Robot Restaurant. Turns out the guy... I thought maybe he was doing something for Vice Magazine or whatever. Turns out he was there with Chris Arkenberg He did a piece on Boing-Boing A whole piece about the Robot Restaurant

22:56 Despite the fact that he's a glasshole, it's a good piece. It's very detailed so if you...it's really nice if you want to read everything about that crazy restaurant and that's in the Tokyo.noagendanotes.com Last thing about Tokyo someone had give me the tip about getting the Google Translation app and this thing saved our ass I'm sure everyone's used the Google Translate on the web, but they have an app and you can dictate into it. But it'll also speak whatever its saying... And I use this continuously with great success! Particularly the cab drivers who have no idea

23:44 They and they'll even pretend like they really know what they're doing and drive you around for 30 minutes And you've been completely the wrong spot But once we got the app when were entering the address and translating it, and the kanji was right there 99% success rate ah good tip for traveling. It is a work on an iPhone yes Yeah, they have it for Android and iPhone so very very happy with that That's good well. That's if you know we've been promised this sort of futuristic Real time translation. Yeah, that really works and also the dictation in the Google stuff I find when it knows that you're there's a limited set of things you're saying You know so not dictating a letter or writing some prose Nothing works for that yet And I doubt it ever really will in our life. But yeah but he gets you to the train station right? Yeah Or ask where the toilet is

CHAPTER 09 / 57 Discussion

NASA, Failed Meteor Shower Predictions

A predicted NASA meteor shower is labeled a "dud" after observers across the country reported seeing nothing. The hosts use the failed astronomical prediction to question the reliability of scientific models used for climate change and global warming.

nasa· meteor shower· twitter· climate change· prediction

24:39 Yeah. Anyway, so we got the jet lag and I wake up around two o'clock and like oh this is great! I'm gonna go out and watch the meteor shower! Well that was a waste of your time. I just want to remind everybody that this NASA media shower is predicted by the same people who bring you proof of climate change in global warming. Yeah, good one. Just want you to realize my I think chase the buzzkill jr Tried to then he did need some research after the fact and he says this thing comes around every 13 thousand years And nobody knows anything about it anyway right and they're full of crap about these meteor showers But and i was looking at twitter you got to see absolutely nothing nothing nothing yeah It was a dud yeah there's a fake and i'm looking at twitter and across the across the country

25:30 The hashtag meteor shower, everybody's like pfft. You know I saw maybe... on any given night you can if you look long enough you could see a meteor fall or shoot a storm A real meteor shower you should be able to see one every couple seconds Yeah no way No way but it was total bogus and but no one is calling them on this Excuse me why should we trust anything you say if you can't even predict the little meteor storm? That's a good point Quick catch up on a couple of emails One A score is 20 or approximately 20. You recall we were trying to figure out how many... Oh yeah, do you write twenty? That's what it is. But the definition is a 20 or approximately 20 which I find interesting and a great suggestion came in from Sean Coffey then he said hey man

CHAPTER 10 / 57 Discussion

Email Forwarding, John at Curry dot com

A new email address, john@curry.com, has been established to make it easier for listeners to contact John C. Dvorak. The address forwards directly to his primary inbox, addressing complaints that his contact information was previously difficult to find.

email· communication· curry.com· dvorak.org· contact information

26:22 It really is hard to find John's email address, which is why everyone sending you the emails. Yeah it so hard! Well not anymore he had a great suggestion and I now have set up next to Adam at curry dot com john at curry dot com Which forwards to your email? Yeah, well good because my emails actually failing at the moment so good luck getting it there John and curry calm everybody okay. I'm gonna create a plate said Dvorak org And it's all going to your email fine no one will how many complaints will get zero No, I'm gonna make them in a comp I'm gonna tell people that hit the complaint button hard john at curry comm

CHAPTER 11 / 57 Discussion

Presidential Proclamations, Memorial Day and Hurricane Preparedness

President Obama issued several proclamations, designating Memorial Day 2014 as a "Prayer for Peace" and announcing National Hurricane Preparedness Week. The hosts analyze the religious tone of the Memorial Day message and note NBC's Brian Williams reporting on the upcoming hurricane season despite previous forecast inaccuracies.

barack obama· memorial day· prayer for peace· national hurricane preparedness week· brian williams

27:07 Okay, while we are in our au courant segment here the president has proclaimed yet more days and weeks. As we are now almost at the end of the month he's still handing out presidential proclamations Of course we had Memorial Day which will be Monday and that is... by presidential proclamation He is calling that Prayer for Peace Memorial day 2014. Prayer for peace I'm not quite sure why he's added that. Prayer for peace? Yeah, I don't know have no idea... The security that lets us live in peace the prosperity that allows us to pursue our dreams the freedom that we cherish these were earned by the blood and the sacrifices of our patriots who went before this Memorial Day as we end as we near the end of more than a decade of war let us never forget their service and always be worthy of the sacrifices made in our name

28:09 And, oh and today and every day let us pray for and hold close the families of the fallen. So he's putting a religious slant on it I'm not making any jokes because as you know i've come from a long line of servicemen and women both in uniform and in civilian garb so but I'd certainly recognize them on Memorial Day But then we have another presidential proclamation and this is for National Hurricane Preparedness Week 2014 everybody! Yay! Because as you know hurricanes can demolish towns, obliterate coastlines and devastate families. We cannot eliminate the threats they pose but with careful planning we can better protect ourselves our loved ones and our communities

28:55 During National Hurricane Preparedness Week, America fortifies our homes and businesses so that we are ready long before these powerful storms make landfall. And this was of course coordinated as we have Brian Williams from the NBC News there talking about the named storms they expect during this hurricane season which has failed drastically by all predictions and he says something interesting in addition to this. As you know it is always the case in the inexact business of any forecast beyond five days We shall see Okay, that's new Five days 200 years give or take whatever yeah Yeah definitely Very very interesting mr.. Brian Williams most pissed off people on the planet right now have got to be

CHAPTER 12 / 57 Discussion

Elliot Rodger, Santa Barbara Shooting and Media Memes

The May 2014 shooting in Isla Vista, California, by Elliot Rodger is introduced, with the hosts noting how it overshadowed the wedding of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West. The discussion focuses on the immediate emergence of media memes regarding the "War on Women," misogyny, and gun control before the shooter's identity was fully confirmed.

elliot rodger· santa barbara· isla vista· misogyny· gun control· mental illness

30:13 Kim Kardashian and Kanye West. Well, you've been following this? No! But I bumped into a report they got married on the very day that we have shootings in Brussels, shootings in California... And you know that these people are complete publicity whores and are pissed off because no one's talking about their spectacular wedding in Florence with the wall of flowers Yeah, no they were more concerned about the shooting. The local shooting which I don't have a clip of had this guy who... Dono, do you know anything about the Santa Barbara thing? I know a lot about this. I was going to... Did you get a clip with the guy yakking about he posted on YouTube that he can't get a date? Let me just... Well it's worse than that

31:03 And we have fantastic producers. What could be worse than that? If you look at all the videos, which have been taken down... Yes! I find that very disturbing by the way Well The Gay Crusader, Brian The Gay Crusader upon my return had saved all of the videos All of the postings on the Bodybuilder website Good for him Everything, an entire archive which will be in the show notes and all these videos So there's two types of videos Videos where he's talking which is kind it's almost like a podcast and And then he has videos where he's just driving and playing songs now all of these songs All from the 80s, and the guy is 22 But I as I realize as I'm watching there must be on 15 videos that we have that you can take a look at them. I really don't know I really don't want to play that I mean do I do have some analysis about to give up on it

32:00 Let me just tell you the here are the songs that he has police every little thing you do is magic Katrina in The Ways walking on sunshine Whitney Houston, how will I know Steve Perry? Oh Sherry Steve Winwood higher love George Michael father figure and modern English. I melt with you It's like a bad top 40 radio station knows yes exactly And but of all of the videos where he is talking to the camera He starts them off the same way, and I just did a little compilation of that. He always says hey Elliot Rodger here. Hey Elliot Rodger here. Hey Elliot Rodger here. Hi Elliot Rodger here. Hey Elliot Rodger here. Hey Elliot Rodger here. Hey Elliot Rodger here. Hey Elliot Rodger here. This guy is a podcaster!

32:56 Little disturbing. Yeah, he's got definitely a an opening he's got his is opening yeah I was ready to dismiss this as you know Certainly, I dismissed it as another unreported kid on some drug because of some reason or other and that caught up with him and turned him into a You know essentially made him crazy That was gonna be my concern with this wasn't whatever you're gonna come up with which it sounds more interesting My concern is still the same concern that the news people covering these stories never bring up The drug angle ever. Yes, and I was but I was kind of where you are And I was like if this sounds kind of unfortunate then a whole lot of things started to happen one and it's Although we're going to cover it today We're going to cover

33:52 a lot of the event itself. I want to cover some of the event itself really what it, what the result is going to be much more interesting as immediately we have all of the memes... We have The War on Crazy Mental Illness, we have The War on Women Misogyny, we have The War on Guns and all these things and immediately all these started to hit even before we knew the guy's name officially which is always a little suspicious But all of a sudden when this manifesto popped up, that's when I went okay now i don't like this. This immediately pisses me off and

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Matthew Keyes, Elliot Rodger Manifesto on Scribd

Independent blogger Matthew Keyes, formerly of Reuters, published Elliot Rodger's 140-page manifesto, "My Twisted World," on Scribd. The hosts discuss Keyes' controversial background, including his involvement with Anonymous and the Boston bombing police scanner tweets. They describe the document as a detailed, script-like autobiography.

matthew keyes· scribd· elliot rodger· manifesto· reuters· independent journalist

34:33 this manifesto was not readily available. It wasn't something he had posted online, it wasn't... What it was is something that someone had sent the news media and they printed out and you can't download a copy anywhere except from as far as I know one link from one Independent journalist we have a copy on the show notes. Yeah, well I can't actually copy this I have a link in the show notes and of course I know because you copy it It's unscribed and you if it if it's not made available for script script does have a you can load PDF function yes But you can disable that if you own the upload and has been disabled

35:19 In fact, the guy who posted this is this so-called independent blogger and his name is Matthew Keyes. And he... Now this is an interesting guy he's somewhat controversial He was fired from Reuters after I guess it was busted allowing anonymous to gain illegal access to The LA Times And then he was during the Boston bombing. I remember that guy. Yeah, during the Boston bombing He was tweeting stuff coming off of the police radio, The Scanner

36:01 So he said, this guy... somehow he acquires this document and puts it up on Scribd. And the only way you can read it is on Scribd—I tried everything! I really tried every single way to do it and they've got that kind of locked down—but he's handing out a special code so you can embed it in your blog… I don't like this guy. I don't know why but he smells bad. So I read these 140 pages online, and there's a lot of stuff in here. And it's essentially... I wouldn't define as a manifesto It's a description of a character apparently himself from birth all the way to current day and he remembers a lot of stuff about his youth that maybe when you're 22 You can still remember how you felt when you were four or five

36:52 In such detail. I don't remember anything when I was 22 and I wasn't recalling the good old days falling down trying to learn how to walk but he He definitely He really kind of the whole thing it's like a script almost is like the whole thing is laid out Oh, by the way The great the gay crusader just gave me a PDF for the manifesto so good. I'll have that in there be the show notes Yeah, this isn't good guy So all of a sudden this manifesto pops up. I'm going to play this clip, which is... CNN had the best coverage. Al Jazeera was doing a pretty good job and then i have some other things that we just need to talk about because it's irritating

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CNN, Analysis of My Twisted World Manifesto

CNN's coverage of the Elliot Rodger manifesto is analyzed, highlighting the shooter's obsession with the movie "Alpha Dog" and his feelings of social rejection at UCSB. The document reveals Rodger's Hollywood connections through his father, a second unit director on "The Hunger Games," and his mother's proximity to George Lucas and Steven Spielberg.

cnn· elliot rodger· hunger games· george lucas· ucsb· alpha dog

37:35 And I don't like it. It's a lot of, I have to say even the gay crusader and Brian is you know he wrote our white paper on the Bogota Putin hates gays and then you can't fool this guy even he's like hold on a second man we got all kinds of people working on this with me was up until 1 30 last night listen to this as they get this document and then we have the prestitute on CNN holding a printed copy in waving it around You know, but it's not like this. It's all theater of the mind as far as I'm concerned have a listen And we're now learning the gunman left behind not only YouTube videos he also left behind a 140 page written manifesto that CNN has obtained a copy of in this manifesto was originally sent

38:20 to one of our affiliates, K-E-Y-T TV. It's titled My Twisted World the story of Elliot Rodger and he says this is a story, a dark story of sadness anger and hatred." Now so right off the bat I'm thinking okay who was it sent by? Was it mailed? Is this...was it like printed out and bound like the Unabomber or You know, apparently we're not going to find out except for that this Matthew Keyes guy has a digital copy. It literally is just text There's no formatting or anything around it. That's all it is I'm joined now by Tracy Laird who's on the phone from our affiliate keyt You reportedly your station received this manifesto from Elliot Roger tell me some of the details They came from an acquaintance who had something to do with bodybuilding online and it was brought to our attention early, and we have

39:17 make printed copies and I'm combing through it right now. And you mentioned the title, My Twisted World is a very well written like someone who knew punctuation and wrote it out but it starts with every A. What does that mean? Whoa! It's well-written someone knew punctuation Well this is breaking news for CNN because the public has been... You know the school system being what it is nowadays This is just a shocker They should look into this knowing punctuation And the fact that it's well written and you know this is now called him immediately. It's called a manifesto We have no idea if it's actually from him, but you looked at it right? Yes, well written or not. It's well-written Okay, yeah, it's not a rambling piece of crap by any means Yeah, it's a biography basically a biography

40:12 Like a lot of kids, he's talking about puberty and masturbation but also he starts talking about being unpopular. And you saw his father who was the director of commercials and movies have some financial difficulties and ended up at Cass High School in Los Angeles and he was very shocked by how he was treated there going to an alternative school. He was also obsessed with video games, and what struck me is that in between video games he would watch a lot of movies... Oh yeah there's the video game meme as well I'm playing this so that i don't have to go through this PDF with you because this is a pretty good description of what it is Yeah okay keep playing One of the movies he was watching was Alpha Dog which is the story of David Adias who were UCSB students who killed four people driving down the road

40:58 in 2001 on Del Flaya, in the same area where these shootings took place. And that young man David Addy has had a Hollywood producer father... Very interesting this throwback to 10 years or was it now 12-13 years ago? ...who went through the trial and ended up at a mental hospital and got out but the reason he was obsessed with the movie is because All of the young people seemed to be having a lot of sex and he was jealous. And he got very upset about any time someone was doing better with girls than he was, and his parents even his step-parents parent, tried to help him through dark times but his jealousy was deeply rooted into his teenage years. It's really something that I have to say as someone who is well-schooled there is also a lot of name dropping in it. His mother was very close to George Lucas and Steven Spielberg he went to many premieres most recently the Hunger Games

41:50 uh... premiered with his dad was a second unit director on that but he's got to start in London so it is almost stranger than fiction and as you mentioned that title my twisted world Like he had the story and he wanted his story told, maybe knowing what the ending would be because everything towards the end is almost verbatim. What the videos that you guys have seen have been talking about how lonely he is and how he wants to lose his virginity it's quite shocking. All right so a very accurate description of this document and its more towards the end where he starts to come up with these plans and there are very few talking points that

42:27 He repeats consistently in these videos and he's a very eloquent speaker. He is not experiencing college as he thinks he should be or the others are, he feels that he should having relationships with girls and all the other guys are, he's all alone. Girls don't want him why not because he feels that he is good looking, he sophisticated, has a beautiful car. This is seriously what you say? He never says by the way By the way, I got a Hollywood connection and you can hang out with me on the red carpet. Yeah baby get enrolled! That shouldn't be that hard to get laid but he claims he's a virgin... A couple of phony baloney business cards and your getting laid left and right But it is a very short list of things

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Alan Shifman, Asperger's Diagnosis and Mental Health System

Family attorney Alan Shifman stated that Elliot Rodger was diagnosed with high-functioning Asperger's syndrome and was being treated by multiple professionals. The hosts discuss the use of the drug Risperdal and the father's mission to educate the world on the "broken" mental health system.

alan shifman· asperger's syndrome· autism· risperdal· mental health· peter rodger

43:14 And he, well so here's what happens next in the timeline. The BBC comes out with an interview of someone a guy who claims to be the family lawyer and I have a clip of what he said and this is very interesting. And we're now learning that gunman left behind not only YouTube videos... I'm sorry how did that happen? Oh here it is yeah my mistake This child was being treated by multiple professionals. The child was diagnosed at an earlier age of being a highly functional Asperger's syndrome child." Now let's stop right here for a second, as you know I do a lot of research into the diagnosis of mental disease and there is no such thing as high-functioning Aspergers

44:17 There is such thing as highly functioning autism, which IS Asperger's syndrome. And it's very interesting that this is repeated over and over high-functioning Asperger where that is just no such thing but the high functioning autism...and in fact the definition of Asperger is on the autism scale at one end of the scale. Right! Bill Gates has it. Yes correct and its typically very intelligent people They have problems with the remaining very focused. Yeah, and they do have problems all kinds of problems issues And there is a there is a medication for this as well which in the so-called manifesto He talks about being prescribed that which is Risperdal Yeah, Risperdal has it has very interesting side effects you want to look that up while I continue with the I will do that yes, okay? There were recent

45:20 post on YouTube regarding suicide. Which I did not see by the way, I didn't see a suicide clip only about killing or taking care of girls and the guys who love them And the killing of people The parents reported weeks ago They reported this weeks ago There was an investigation by the police department I don't know which police department it was they found that there was After interviewing the child in the child's home that it was a perfectly polite kind and wonderful human No history of guns for this child didn't have a lot of friends had trouble making friends I remember. This is this isn't just a new guy on the scene. This is very early This is someone saying I'm a lawyer for the family by the way The family has divorced the father and the mother, and let's say

46:21 It's a tragedy that we really have to get our hands around and try to prevent these things from happening again. Ah, very interesting what he is now... Now he is analyzing the situation The position of the family is not to be selfish but to mourn the losses of all the victims at the appropriate time and when He can give them meaningful, He being the Father When Peter Rogers, you know can do it. He will do interesting now he says Peter Rogers Where as far as I know the name is Roger ROD GER So either found this to be interesting that he says Peter Rodger's and she's the lawyer And by the way Alan Schiffman is a divorce lawyer so somehow he has been pulled into this She's not yeah, but he's a divorce lawyer. He probably did the guy's divorced. They're devastated

47:18 Mean it's a tragedy of immense consequences ruins. A lot of people's lives and As I said his mission in life will be to try to educate the world Oh, hold on a second the father Peter Roger Rogers His mission in life will be to educate the world To see how we can prevent these things these things happen way too many times and The world's got to spend more on this mental health system because it does appear to be broke. Interesting message from the lawyer, from the family for the father Now before we get to the weird press conference, the second one There is a parent who shows up at that time not even identified I don't think and this parent has a very clear message

CHAPTER 16 / 57 Discussion

Richard Martinez, NRA and Political Criticism

Richard Martinez, the father of victim Christopher Martinez, delivered a passionate public statement blaming "craven, irresponsible politicians" and the NRA for his son's death. The hosts compare the emotional delivery and rhetoric to the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shooting.

richard martinez· nra· gun rights· santa barbara· sandy hook· politicians

48:25 We are going to that was our Sarah Seidner. There's a press conference going on right now Let's take a listen he died last night I've written out a statement that was prepared by the family Okay, he's written out a statement has been prepared by the family and again. I'm not condemning I'm just trying to get hand out facts here You know just trying to analyze what is going on this is all weird but very similar to Sandy Hook I have to say Our son Christopher Martinez and six others are dead. Our family has a message for every parent out there, you don't think it'll happen to your child until it does! Chris was a really great kid ask anyone who knew him his death has left our family lost and broken why did Chris die?

49:35 Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights! What about Chris's right to live? And he is reading this by the way He keeps looking for the next line as he is reading this passionate plea When will this insanity stop?! When will enough people say Stop This Madness We don't have to live like this Too many have died! We should say to ourselves, not one more. Thank you." That's it. So NRA and shitty politicians but we've had now the lawyers say it's crazy people we have this father come out apparently of one of the victims and say oh it's the NRA and politicians Now...now we get to this second press conference with Sheriff Bill Brown

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Sheriff Bill Brown, Santa Barbara Election and Handcuffing Controversy

Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown is facing a re-election vote on June 3rd, leading to questions about his focus on mental health as a campaign platform. The hosts highlight a strange detail from Brown's press conference where he stated that deputies handcuffed the suspect despite him being "obviously dead" from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

bill brown· santa barbara· sheriff· election· mental health· coroner

50:40 And I look into this guy's background and it turns out there is an election coming up on June 3rd for sheriff. Growing up, I learned the importance of community and family. When you live in a place as wonderful as we do it takes hard work to keep it safe that why I'm proud of the accomplishments we've made throughout my term as your sheriff On June 3rd I ask for your vote again To keep Santa Barbara County The special place that it is No one's mentioned this, that an election is coming up in what? Is it now just a week? Yeah. And when you look into his position he is... well I have the articles right here He is on the California State Mental Health Commission then he has a staunch article that says Sheriff no fan of gun control

51:47 On the eve of gun appreciation day, Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said gun control debates have distracted the American people from the issue most affecting mass violence mental health. Quote if we look at all virtually all of the mass shootings that have occurred in our country the common denominator in them is in virtually everyone as either untreated or seriously undertreated severe mental illness addressing that issue needs to be our highest priority it's very interesting that with a vote coming up that his uh his platform is mental health he is on these state board the state mental health commission, and we have a crazy person shooting up in his very backyard. That could... Wow! Right with the counter argument that it's because of the NRA from this other guy which is probably I would say could be representing the other side of the argument to get Brown out

52:42 And apparently he has a beef with the district attorney of Santa Barbara County, Joyce... I have her name here somewhere. Now there is no confirmation yet but this district attorney is very much against guns although I think Brown was also against guns but his platform is the mental health There is a word that I've heard from people who live there, that one of the three victims of knife murder... which we'll get to in a minute. Allegedly in the guy's apartment that one of them may be the son of the district attorney, but I don't have that confirmed yet That's just information it came in so this bill brown does this press conference and there was a couple of really strange things as he goes through The entire timeline listen to this one. This victim was thrown onto the hood of the suspect's vehicle and Caved-in the windshield of that vehicle the suspects vehicle then collided with several parked cars And came to a stop

53:47 Responding deputies immediately removed the suspect from the car and handcuffed him. He was obviously dead with an apparent gunshot wound to the head." Since when do we handcuff dead guys? So let me get this straight, he has a gunshot wound to the head which is fairly damaging Yeah, and he's obvi- not dead. He's obviously dead. He's obviously yes because his head is blown off. So obviously that so they handcuff him? Yeah Can you play that again? Mm-hmm several parked cars and came to a stop responding deputies immediately Removed the suspect from the car and handcuffed him. He was obviously Dead with an apparent gunshot wound to the head

CHAPTER 18 / 57 Discussion

Isla Vista, Stabbing Victims and Crime Scene Investigation

Sheriff Bill Brown reported that Elliot Rodger murdered three male victims by repeated stabbing in his Isla Vista apartment before beginning his shooting rampage. The hosts express skepticism regarding how a 140-pound man could successfully stab three men and note early, unconfirmed reports of a second shooter in a BMW.

isla vista· stabbing· ucsb· bill brown· murder· crime scene

54:42 Just annoying to me. Well, there's that and then there's this I guess the police are just slap-happy over handcuffing anyone they can possibly Now this kid who was once deemed too small to get on the Peter Pan ride at Disneyland Who is 140 pounds 5 8 now? Of course we really don't have an update on this yet by the time you hold on a second That's not that's not possible what you said If he's 5'8", you're not any right. At one point, when he was a kid... He's not a big guy I'm giving this as a point of reference. He's 5'8", 140 pounds but somehow and he has 400 rounds of ammunition and three 9mm pistols But somehow he decides to stab 3 men in his apartment Location number 1

55:30 It appears as though suspect Roger murdered three victims. Now, why does the sheriff use the word murder here? Murder is a technical legal term. Yes it is. This is very similar to that crazy coroner at Sandy Hook by the way, the sheriff is also the county's coroner just has a point of reference there So this is, you know I was like why do you say murder? Why are using that word. Yeah and I want to mention something here too Santa Barbara To anybody who lives in California even though people that live in Santa Barbara by the way I think Oprah has a place there Yes she does absolutely big place It's the creepiest air one of those There are areas around California and most parts of the country You'll go drive through some town or something And it just creeps you out as creepy It's a creepy place But also this

56:28 This is, what is it? Something Vista. Yeah, it's one of the... Is La Vista which is the poor part of town. Isla Vista yeah. Isla Vista Which has all these kids who have huge loans to go to USSB UCSB But its kind of a crappy part of town which Santa Barbara doesn't really want to know. The town of Santa Barbara is extremely creepy I think we talked about that when I stayed once with you know a friend of Mickey's and were there But yeah, it is. I found to be somewhat creepy too Yeah, it's creepy anyway So here's the he's murdered three victims within his residence in the 6500 block of Seville Road Prior to the shooting rampage that took place last night The three male victims appeared to have been repeatedly stabbed we are still processing that crime scene and we are still in the process of positively identifying

57:30 the victims and notifying their next of kin so I will not have their identities for you at this time. So, I don't know if news is out yet on that but thats taking quite a while and you know for one guy to take on three guys and stab them thats...that warrants some investigation. Yeah especially for a guy 5'8 140. Yeah that warrants some investigation And by the way, there were early reports on the police radio that this was a drive-by shooting two people in the BMW. One of them was African American by all reports and I don't have audio but there's even a transcript that said they had both

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Bill Brown, Mental Health Professionals and Video Evidence

Sheriff Bill Brown discussed Rodger's history with mental health professionals and the "chilling" videos posted to YouTube prior to the attack. The hosts question how the Sheriff obtained private medical information so quickly and criticize the rapid release of convenience store video evidence to the media.

bill brown· mental health· youtube· manifesto· privacy· evidence

58:12 or they had the second shooter in custody. This is very typical, all the stuff that happens at the beginning you never hear about later on Now here's Sheriff Bill Brown making a judgment call as a sheriff and coroner making a call now as a psychologist or psychiatrist The question was when did we become aware of videos that were on the web and the manifesto, the written document that apparently was written by the suspect? He's calling it a manifesto On the web, he says. Which is nowhere on the web... It was put on the web! We became aware of that fairly quickly in the investigation last night and uh.. In reading this 141 page rambling... It's not rambling I've read it. Autobiographical... L says well written so what did maybe has a different one?

59:06 Was it 140 pages? Well, it was yes but he says 141 pages so maybe he had the one rambling page. In reading this uh 141 page uh... rambling um... autobiographical almost a combination of an autobiography and a diary it's very apparent of the severe uh... extent of how disturbed mister roger was and the fact that he had been and was continuing to be seen by a variety of different health care professionals. But it's very, very apparent." Now this... How does he know that the kid was seen by- And where is he allowed even talk about this? About being seen by number of healthcare professionals and where are the interviews with the healthcare professionals who are they what healthcare professional

1:00:04 We need some information on this people. That he was severely mentally disturbed. Severely? It's opinion. Can you review that document and the videotape is a... I love video tape, that's my favorite Hello, 1990 calling. We want our videotape back. Chilling. There were several video tapes that he had posted. One that was posted just prior to the attack is a particularly chilling one in which he basically looks at the camera and talks about what he is about to do. Which is true and it's part of his talking points. Just got two more then I'm done with this

1:00:42 Yeah, this was saying it all kind of fits together because we have the manifesto. We have the videos we have victims although we don't really know who yet so we have three unknowns One other male victim and two female victims so total four male victims two female victims As you are aware in the manifesto he lays out a plan on what he intended to do I will without getting into too much detail. I will say that Three of the there are three people that were murdered in the apartment it appears as though that again murdered happened

1:01:24 You know prior to him going on this mobile shooting rampage. Mobile? The three male victims were apparently stabbed repeatedly with sharp objects and it was a pretty horrific crime scene. Yeah, and also there was some great video which we didn't get to see that CNN continuously saying oh We've got some video from inside the convenience store but it's so horrific. We can't show it to you Okay And why is this video released? Don't the police always take that and you're not allowed to release it. Everything's coming out real quick with this. And then for final question in this press conference... The question is, did he shoot himself or was he shot by sheriff's deputies It would appear as though he took his own life Okay Alright That would appear so Let's stop for a second let's go over this drug Yes thank you This drug which is Risperdone

CHAPTER 20 / 57 Discussion

Risperdal, Side Effects and Priapism

The hosts examine the antipsychotic drug Risperdal (risperidone), which Elliot Rodger mentioned in his manifesto. They discuss its use in treating schizophrenia and behavioral problems in autism, as well as rare side effects such as priapism. Rodger reportedly refused to take the medication after researching it.

risperdal· risperidone· schizophrenia· autism· side effects· priapism

1:02:24 Risperdal is the brand name for risperidone. And it's used in Schizophrenia mostly and bipolar disorder. But it also is used as one of those, you know, let's see it also were, you know one of those things where they use a drug that that's like a powerful anti-psychotic That's what this is yeah, but they can use it occasionally I guess they use it for behavior problems in people with autism mm-hmm So he had a behavioral problem that required the use of this extremely potent

1:03:03 Antipsychotic and this is in his so-called manifesto. He mentions this being prescribed to him It says in autism it does not improve conversational ability or social skills which kind of belies his podcasting. Yeah, and does not appear to reduce obsessive behavior in most people with autism so I don't know what it does Risperidone provides no benefit in the treatment of eating disorders or personality disorders With anti-psychotic medications such as risperidone have a slight benefit in people with dementia

1:03:40 Slight benefit they have been linked to higher incidences of death and stroke Because of this increased risk of death treatment of dementia related psychosis with risperidone is not approved It has some interesting side effects one one rare one which would give him I think would be some prop would be problematic it's not like a bed really horrible list except the same old same old pretty much we hear all the time with these ads, but there's a rarer problem it creates a priapism which I think would be... What is priapism? Permanent hard-on. Ah well no wonder! That's what i was thinking when I read that. Yeah, so this is the guy no wonder oh my god all right this this is starting to make some sense thank you

1:04:26 How do you spell that drug again? Risperdone? R-I-S-P-E-R-D-O-N-E. Yeah, no but the brand name. Risperdal D-A-L. Now that I have the PDF of the document it's almost impossible to search stuff on that. Scribdid. Yeah, suck. See this is not... Medication. I just want to find the exact sentence, here we go... Here we go. Dr. Sophie ended up giving me the same useless advice that my- or that every other psychiatrist psychologist and counselor have given in the past. I don't know why my parents wasted money on therapy as it will never help me in my struggle against such a cruel and unjust world The doctor ended up dismissing it by prescribing me a controversial medication Risperidone

CHAPTER 21 / 57 Discussion

Elliot Rodger, Gun Purchase and Script-like Narrative

The manifesto's description of Rodger's gun purchases at Goleta Gun & Supply is criticized for its lack of technical detail, such as specific manufacturers or models. The hosts suggest the writing feels like a script created by someone unfamiliar with firearms, noting the unusual use of the generic term "handgun."

goleta gun & supply· handgun· smith & wesson· second amendment· manifesto

1:05:32 He said, after that I refused to take it. After researching this medication never saw Dr. Sophie again So maybe he didn't take it? But he was prescribed it! That's for sure Something else in this manifesto which was interesting... He talks in great detail about purchasing these weapons Where he purchased them but he never discusses the manufacturer or the model That's odd. It is very odd and of course you know... No, I mean most guys who yeah the more interesting thing about guns is what it is! What it is such-and-such Yeah because there's actually somewhat fascinating More fascinating than where you bought one Which of course was named in

1:06:31 Here it is. My first act of preparation was the purchase of my first handgun I did this quickly and hastily at a local gun shop called Goleta Gun & Supply, I'd already done some research on hand guns... ...I decided to purchase a semi-automatic pistol an efficient highly accurate weapon. I signed all the papers And this is like.. It's like.. This is like a script! Well, no and that was worse. You know what it sounds like to me? It sounds like it written by an anti-gun nut which is like would knows nothing about guns They never they won't shoot one at the range you could invite them to come shoot a target They won't do it They don't know the difference between Smith & Wesson of revolver on somebody they don't know anything They maybe know if you generic terms But they don't know any of the brands or what's associated with what so they would be the type of person

1:07:19 That would write for generality like that. So he learned how to... He went to the range, going into the shooting range while I waited for my laptop gave me the perfect opportunity gain some initial training in shooting guns which will be the main weapons I use as vengeance against my enemies when the day of retribution ultimately comes to pass. I walked into the range rented a handgun from the ugly old redneck cashier and started to practice shooting at paper targets I fired my first few rounds, I felt so sick to the stomach. I questioned my whole life and I looked at the gun in front of me and asked myself what am i doing here? How could things have led... This is a reaction because most people when they first shoot a gun get a hard-on! Well he had one anyway but uh they tend to be surprised by their experience it's not frightening. I mean when there sound is I mean things are noisy but but it's like oh that's interesting this is something

1:08:16 You know, it's like oh... there is some propelling this object at very high speeds. But also he doesn't mention what kind of gun just rented a handgun Yeah A handgun I mean who says handgun? Nobody says handgun. I'd like to rent a handgun! Um okay This is very suspicious, you're right. Yeah I don't like it but now my analysis and what we're going to do with this on the show first of all this will be conspiracy theory heaven for a while maybe a long long while but there's just not much we can do

CHAPTER 22 / 57 Discussion

Southern Poverty Law Center, YesAllWomen Hashtag and Misogyny

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) immediately linked Elliot Rodger's motives to misogyny and racism based on his online posts. This led to the viral #YesAllWomen hashtag. The hosts question why the media is focusing on a "war on women" when the majority of the victims were male.

southern poverty law center· yesallwomen· misogyny· racism· social media

1:08:54 But it has a lot of the hallmarks of a setup. You will have to see do we what? Do we find out about these three male victims, you know All of these things have to fit in somehow but what I will be following very closely is the reaction to this now the first thing that really with Southern Poverty Law Center comes enters this immediately and you know, I don't like these guys at all And they enter immediately with a number of blog posts. In the Southern Poverty Law Center who look at racism, then injustice and you know they've got 250 million dollars in cash from donations and God knows where from... A couple of headlines. Shooting suspect Elliot Rogers misogynistic post points to motive! Elliot Roger is La Vista shooting suspect posted racist messages on misogynistic website Misogynistic video before attack

1:09:56 And from this has come a hashtag which is YesAllWomen and how this is playing out, because women wouldn't give him sex he went to go kill women! Which of course women were in the minority of the victims here. Yeah why did he kill any guys at all? Well he said he was going to kill that love these women who wouldn't give him love and sex. But for this immediately to be grabbed this way as the war on women... Yep, you got it? Now also why is the press not typically all over the type of weapon

1:10:52 They were preoccupied with the Sandy Hook thing, even though they were always wrong about it. But they described the weapon in great detail, Schmaster and they had pictures of it and it was easily available. They would give you availability statistics about the gun. And yeah, they tend to be very... They did the same thing with the guy that was in Los Angeles, the cop that was shooting cops at the moment of death. He had all his weapons somehow as he got through the fire without singeing And they had this very, you know... They made a big deal about the weapons. The specific weapons. Where by the way are the iPhone videos? Where's everybody's iPhone video of this...? I'm looking at it and can't find it! Are you kidding me?! There's gotta be some video! This guy was in 10 different locations!

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Peter Rodger, PBA Commercial and Hollywood Career

The career of the shooter's father, Peter Rodger, is examined, including his work as a second unit director on "The Hunger Games" and his documentary "Oh My God." He also directed a commercial for PBA (Pseudo-Bulbar Affect), a condition involving uncontrollable laughing or crying.

peter rodger· hunger games· pba· pseudo-bulbar affect· documentary· commercials

1:11:47 Yeah, usually when he wrecked or shot himself and wrecked and was handcuffed there should be people around there. I haven't found any yet. He's the son of a Hollywood director. So he really has only done two movies one is he was the second unit director on Hunger Games then he also did in 2011 i think He did his own movie called Oh My God, which is a kind of documentary type movie where he went around the world and interviews people about religion. And then he's done a ton of commercials including the... what was that? Remember the PBA? This is no good. The one about the laughing syndrome

1:12:46 No, I have no don't have any recollection. Yeah when i play it you will hold on a second let me find it um he has his own website peter roger dot com that's so that's the dad then he has photography and directing and let me go to this is some pretty nice shots by the way does some nice stuff commercials in film um these arthur daniel mitchell atlantic city Ummmm... Here it is. This is the one I'm talking about. Don't call it depression, call it by its real name. Don't call a crazy Call it PBA. Pseudo-Bulbar effect. PBA causes frequent episodes of uncontrollable crying or laughing in people with brain injuries or neurologic conditions like stroke dementia or MS For more information called today for your free kit there's a name for this and you're not alone Now do you remember now?

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MKUltra, Mental Health Legislation and Photography Analysis

The hosts discuss potential "mind control" or MKUltra angles to the Santa Barbara shooting, suggesting the event could be used to push mental health legislation and gun control. They also analyze strange black-and-white photography on Peter Rodger's website, questioning if the shooter appeared in any of the stylized, sexualized images.

mkultra· mental health· legislation· photography· janet napolitano· mind control

1:13:51 You know, I would love to have these people in an audience. Just take them around the world! Yeah, shills... So okay so we have the- Actually no, I still don't remember that. So we have The War on Crazy. You're crazy so you can how can you walk into a gun store? The gun stores that are actually named and go and purchase a weapon when you're crazy. Have a background check. We could never have this. I mean this is we got to have legislation for this which of course- This guy's done a lot in commercials by the way. And of course this legislation will lead to, you know... You have your highly functional autism. You can't really be around kids and yeah, you can't really go to the pool. That's gonna lead us down a bad path Guns in general should be outlawed Bullying I'm sure that'll crop up War on Waste got everything you want! The only thing that really bothers me is the timing of this

1:14:49 It makes no sense to do this on a Memorial Day weekend because the news outfits, everything's pre-planned. The packages are good to roll everybody's off at On Long Island you know they're all down the beach No one wants their work so it couldn't have been planned. Right? So it's not part of six weeks. Oh no no no no no no no. It's not even close But I will say when I look at this and This kid is either Really, really... this highly functional autism is clearly a very frightening thing. Which I don't believe it is where he decides to actually go and kill and... I hate to say but I'm thinking mind-controlled one way or the other It's varying of the... And of course I'm going to give you an MKUltra analysis here But if you really want

1:15:43 continuously hammer on someone and give him three or four points which this kid had, and you inflate his ego and you play to that. And you keep hammering this into your brain... No girls want you and no one loves you! You can make somebody crazy. So I want you go the Peter Rogers site And then click on photography and then open up black-and-white, classic black and white. And look at photos 32 33 & 34 Okay 30 Wow holy crap okay 32 is what looks like Looks like a dressing room scene with either female impersonators or transvestites getting ready for show 33 is

1:16:45 I don't know if it's the same men now dressed up, but they're in a hallway and they're in all kinds of sexual poses. Can you explain exactly how that works? In 34... yeah these are all men. Yeah we know that! Well just to hang into it. Who is that kid who's dressed...? The last one yeah. He also has this... If you go to photography cheeky, there's all photos of naked women's butts And not been a little more than just butts actually. Hello, echo echo echo and it's pretty though I mean that is not like this is not porn This is nice shots well I'm asking you if the picture 34 is actually Roger could be I don't know It's okay Are you able to blow it up bigger than I can? If you click on it it doesn't give you a low up Yeah, but it needs to be bigger home let me check it again

1:17:55 His hair is all... I don't think so. I don't know, i'm looking at a picture of him now Could be He's got that cocky weird look on his face in the photos I am looking at But you know Whatever the case it's kind of odd And I.. It's so easy to come up with MKUltra I know But a lot of it points to, you know... if we can make this kid go off then we can have all these people jump in with all this analysis and it's perfect for whatever. And please remind yourself that the mental health analysis is exactly the platform The Sheriff is running on for re-election and one week time! That's one of those things, you know? Yeah he's a shoe-in now! What?! Yeah

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Janet Napolitano, University of California and False Flags

The hosts question the silence of Janet Napolitano, the former DHS Secretary who now heads the University of California system, regarding the Isla Vista shootings. They note that while the incident occurred near the UCSB campus and involved students, Napolitano has not made a significant public statement.

janet napolitano· university of california· ucsb· false flag· department of homeland security

1:18:48 Well there you have it. Dynamite no agenda analysis once again A lot of people to thank DH Slammer, Brian the Gay Crusader People stayed up very late with me working on this Oh and by the way where's Janet Napolitano in all of this? Who happened...you know The woman who makes all false flags appear Isn't she already out? She's out Doesn't she run the California system University of California. Does is this not a university? I thought she runs the whole system She does including only near the college it wasn't a college incident good point So there's no reason for her to butt in although two or three at the cocktail parties you have Two of the other victims were sorority girls from The College hmm, the two female victims

1:19:39 But still, you know, shouldn't she come out at all and say something? No. Okay The chancellor of the University of California or the administrator of this system very rarely speaks Well anyway, so I think we're kind of done with what happened and as people go through this and come up with analysis if anything interesting crops up will bring it to you. Right now i feel it's much more interesting to see what the result will be the work towards legislation in all these areas uh... because it all it always gets i think original thesis is actually correct this has got to be the most galling thing that's ever happened a kanye west and at that time for that you know and with that i'd like to thank you for your courage in saying the morning to you john lee devore u n m curry in the morning all ships at sea boats on the ground feet near subs in the water and

CHAPTER 26 / 57 Discussion

Production Glitches, Tokyo Show Recap and Comedy Category

The hosts recap technical difficulties during their recent show in Tokyo, where 20 minutes of recording were lost. They discuss hardware upgrades, including the Zoom H4N, and mention that the podcast has been added to the "Comedy" category on iTunes due to listener feedback.

tokyo· itunes· podcasting· zoom h4n· comedy· production

1:20:31 all the dames and knights out there. Yes, and in the morning to everyone in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net Thank you very much to our artist Martin JJ back with a vengeance for 619 our last show from Tokyo Apologies, I have to say. We both had a little bit of pre and post-production issues with the show. Yeah, glitches. During the show itself we lost 20 minutes which were literally lost no recording no stream no nothing...I'm solving that now with Hardware yeah, whoo is this thing now on or not? Yeah right. It's probably not on Zoom is it a new one with the black one the new one that did you said one push? This is what do we have to touch it twice? This is the H now the h4n Yeah, that's the new one I've had this for two years and not that new well. What's newer than the old one? Yeah, thanks

1:21:32 Yeah, that's when you just tap it and it starts recording with the red light instead. And already its failed so... It already has? It failed? Yeah, yeah. I guess tha- You know what? But we had some issues and then I went to sleep at 430. And then we were leaving ummm At noon the next day Did you get some good sleep on the plane? No zero Oh, no. You're supposed to sleep on heading east. No it didn't work So I slept for like five hours woke up and then... Did you join the Mile High Club? Was that the reason? Let me just finish Okay And turns out i hadn't actually updated the podcast feed for iTunes so I was like ugh

1:22:14 My fear by the way, which I mentioned on the show. No your fear was better you said watch The only thing that'll be posted is the 20 minutes that you lost Yeah, yeah, I was a genius But thank you Martin JJ for the artwork and as always you can find it all at no agenda art generator comm looking forward to seeing what our artists come up with For today's program, so we had some other issues with the spreadsheet Yeah I did this correctly and somehow PayPal gave me an old spreadsheet when I downloaded them And I didn't check them. I checked this one and so the spreadsheet We read from was actually a combination of some of the meetup people who had donated and

1:22:56 And in meetup number one, we had two meetups. And then a spreadsheet which was a combination apparently of 615 and 618 or something it was just a screwed up spreadsheet. So the entire spreadsheets I got a lot of notes how come I wasn't mentioned? You skipped over me on purpose. So now we have this is actually bad for the show because we do very well We have a lot of people that to thank it takes up a lot of time It's two shows like doing it for two whole shows at once and that's what we have to do so today is Actually, they thank yous first the real Thank You's first four show 619 and

1:23:40 the thank yous for show 620. So this is gonna be doubled up and it's gonna be long, and we're gonna have a long front end and a long back end that will probably add some time to the show because of it cause you can skip forward if you don't give this. However these segments are typically hilarious Yes were very funny the two of us when we would thank people It's actually as a comedy podcast that were making here yes by the way I did add comedy As an iTunes category. Oh, I don't know if we'll show up there but Figured what the hell yeah, so I could show up here though This is I don't quite get people would say that they get a big kick out of listening to and they laugh They say they you get a lot of notes from people saying oh You know I'm laughing in the end again my listen and the people think I'm crazy because I was just laughing out Of the blue for no reason I think as We know laughter is the best medicine fact best medicine for anything

CHAPTER 27 / 57 Discussion

Executive Producers, Sir Paul and Sir David Foley

Sir Paul of Edmonton and Sir David Foley are recognized as Executive Producers for their $620 donations. Sir David Foley is credited for his consistent support of the show, including a separate donation under Hyperware Technologies for episode 619.

executive producer· donation· sir paul· sir david foley· karma

1:24:37 And I believe a lot of people were laughed a lot about your quote of the show, Burning Towers in the Snow Globe. That was definitely one of the better ones. It's a winner! Yeah onward it's a little early okay we have few people thanked to be executive producers and executive producers that i'm sorry an associate executive producers are going to credit this is gonna executive and associate executive producer for shows 619 and 620 you can pick one or the other if you want. Credits ready. Yeah, sir Paul I've Edmonton Alberta 620 bucks so he's a member of the six twenty club and this was obviously for show six 20 says credit me as Sir Paul I need a karma shot for my sister Hopefully it won't need to be an F cancer one Well, I'm not going into the f-cancer then I'll just do with e karma shot for her here you go You've got karma happy to bring

1:25:33 And another 620 club member. This is one of the rare moments where we have two members of the club. Certainly at this level of episodes, it does not happen often. It's going to be rarified air to be a club member of The Show Club number Sir David Foley our buddy is an Archduke of Silicon Valley headed to Grand Duke $620 from Los Gatos, California. ITM John and Adam please enclosed find my club 620 donation here hoping that you both had a safe travels home and Sunday donations are up thank you for your courage providing the best podcast in the universe from the future and the past

1:26:13 Yeah, well thank you Sir David Foley. Sometimes he's single-handedly keeping the show afloat. Right because he actually donated to 619 under Hyperware Technologies so this is... Wow! So he's a member of that club, which we thank him for. And it was 619-33, he likes to slip that in. He says thanks for your courage especially Adam for braving the TSA with the ultimate podcast device in hand. Thank you very much for the last dose of No Agenda Karma had worked incredibly well let's give them another one. In close find my Club 619 membership and 33 cents from my net neutrality tax. Here is your karma. You've got karma.

CHAPTER 28 / 57 Discussion

Stonation, Dwayne Parker and North Dakota Update

Dwayne Parker from North Dakota provides a "Stonation" update, describing his dissatisfaction with the culture in North Dakota and his plans to attend a punk rock bowling event in Las Vegas. He requests travel and job karma as he seeks to leave the state.

stonation· north dakota· punk rock bowling· las vegas· karma

1:26:51 You know, I'm traveling with a bunch of wires and stuff in my microphone and the DDA converter and all kinds of wires that threw in. And I got to TSA pre nobody gives a crap Keep your shoes on take your wires good luck everybody! I just found that peculiar Oh wait we well this is a stonation Although although although his number is a little off the official stonation number. I believe is 420 dot 33 yeah Okay, accept this well. I have something we now have a sound effect for the stonation segment Oh hit it Well you're going to read it after the sound effect Yeah You want me to read as a stay? I said that two stone to write out all right ready Okay, Wayne Parker in minute North Dakota

1:27:54 Hello? It's North Dakota again. I'm too stoned to write out the North Dakota update you asked for last time! I need some travel karma, man. I'm headed to Vegas for Memorial Day weekend for punk rock bowling!! Also the last 6969 Swazilov Karma game he totally worked!!! Keep fighting the good fight Dwayne, the non-oil working Californian in North Dakota. Discombobulated North Dakota update. This place sucks! Lots of Africans and Mexicans. The culture is nonexistent and no one is actually from here. 18 months in and I can't wait to get out if it's too much to ask for I could use some job karma as well

CHAPTER 29 / 57 Discussion

Knighting and Donations, Sir Gene and Dr. Sharkey

Several producers are recognized for their significant financial contributions, including Sir Gene Natulia, who becomes the Earl of Texas on his birthday. Dr. Sharkey of Jackson, Tennessee, is also thanked for a donation made in honor of his son's graduation.

knighthood· sir gene· dr. sharkey· austin· texas· birthday

1:28:45 as well. Big promotion coming up in the next couple months, next step after that is fuck out of this hellhole! Alright some special karma for you my friend. You've got karma. Sir Dallas Spongberg in Rocky Mountain House Alberta where all the money is $357 should mention that sir Paul's from Alberta too but he's in Alberta Hey guys, these last few shows have been phenomenal. I really enjoy listening to the improv skits you've been doing and recently decided to donate because I'm on my way to college this fall to become a sysadmin and all I asked for is a de-douching for the long absence of my donations through The Best Podcast in The Universe and a karma so that upcoming Alberta diploma exams keep up fighting the good fight! You've been de-douched

1:29:43 You've got karma. Okay, uh... Onward to uh... Oh jeez I gotta move this thing hang on boom What oh is this a script we have to read? No i have to move my spreadsheet- No no im looking at the next donation Oh, from Parker Snyder? Yeah. I wrote this similar to my word star scripts for reports at K-A-X-S back in the day hence VO and all caps for the... Okay so it's like a liner card i get it It's like a liner card I got it Adam voiceover Dear John and Adam okay dear john adam i firstly would would like to thank you both for your courage as this donation completes my official knighthood i can finally attempt to sleep peacefully knowing i am doing

1:30:34 my part delivering value for value. I've only been awake a scant 36 hours without rest, so it's my hope this message is more lucid than those i have sent in the past when i donated after incidents in which... The best podcast in the universe! Has seen me through the toughest times and provided an excuse to pretend to be unable to hear cohorts because my headphones were simply Turned up too loud listening to the show during many a crisis in the data centers Those who do not donate need to be made aware that without their contribution the show will cease to be and that regardless of puppies and kittens in newsletters, which I also wish the aforementioned people would be made aware of. Would leave them deprived of information that can save lives! And moreover ensure they will not fall prey to binding and stilted rhetoric that is pervasive in all our modern mainstream media and even alternative media that must rely on a company

1:31:34 seeds or water filters to ensure their continued existence. I went to... Dvorak dot org slash N-A and did the needful to help continue what is one of the last bastions of honest, unconstrained media reporting which is effectively the only thing keeping real reporting news entity alive The producers of this show need to understand and let me be clear that it shouldn't require Adam Curry or John C. Dvorak to inform you of slacking donations to contribute Contribute now and you won't have to bitch about how Adam and John carp that donations are down, and thus more content will come.

1:32:11 kind of fell apart at the end. Okay, no more of this! Yeah thank you though sir thank you. Sir Gene Natulia and that was 350 bucks from Texas. Gene Natulia of Sir Gene in Austin 333-333-333 donation a 333 dot three three donation celebration of Sir Gene's birthday on Memorial Day to commemorate this occasion Sir Gene Sheriff of Texas Baron de Marriott Viscount of Austin with his producership becomes the Earl of Texas, Adam's choice of jingles. Good. So Dr. Sharkey in Jackson, Tennessee 333-33 nice CP and BK please accept this donation in honor of my human resources eighth grade graduation today He got busted by his mom the other day for calling someone a douchebag Going out front of them at a light

1:33:17 Where did you hear that, she asked. My son replied those grumpy guy's dad listens to Please give him a magic number you will obey and karma Also I was thinking about adding my title to my official university business cards How do i record my title Viscount Baron Baronet Sir Dr Sharkey Just viscount sir dr sharkey What is the proper etiquette? I would say sir doctor sharkey viscount I like it. I like it. That was really weird, I couldn't figure out where that sound was coming from! Okay got it

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Job Karma, Sir JD and Baronet Wilson

Producers including Sir JD and Nate Wilson (now Baronet Wilson) are acknowledged for their donations. The segment includes requests for job karma and house-buying karma, as well as a shout-out to a newly married couple in California.

job karma· sir jd· baronet wilson· charleston· south carolina· donations

1:34:13 Anonymous in Denver, Colorado. 333-33 value for value keep up the good work anonymous in Denver and we got a Ken Chavenu in Kearney Nebraska sent in a note Where are they do with the notes? Oh I left two notes on the other desk as usual hang on oh Okay then although I'll play I'll play something while you're doing that agree Do you agree do you agree do you agree lots of cool jingles coming in today We'll do traveling music. Yeah That's why I'm moving to Austin yeah, what that's Leo he's moving to Austin. It's not moving to Austin. That'll be the day That's why I move in Austin That's a good one people like send stuff to me Yeah, they do all right here we go found it you got a lot of notes here to read from yeah? I actually have a couple notes for the second segment as well

1:35:17 If you read this note on the air do not use my name for purposes of plausible deniability. Okay, well that's too late ITM John and Adam it closes a check for the amount of three three three It's been along I've been a longtime boner But in my defense have been trying to hit people in the mouth. I finally connected JP Kearney of Nebraska pronounced car knee hello Then proceeds to shame me by donating before I got around to it all call out In turn, I have to perform a little one-upsmanship. Unfortunately, instantite is out of the question because they recently abandoned the corner of happy and healthy after 13 plus years. Damn psychopathic CEOs got fired, I guess? I don't know. Thank you for your courage! Would like to be the recipient of some karma job karma along with the classic shut up slave tutor their head in Little Girl Yay if my meager donation allows." Okay so when i don't have it on

1:36:10 On the spreadsheet in front of me. Job Karma, 2 to the head shut up and little girl yay something like that let's give it a shot. Jobs jobs jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Shut up! Yayyyy! What is the buzzer doing here? I don't know. You've got karma. The buzzer just stepped on the buzzer It was a little too much for me but okay Sir JD in San Jose, California 330 330 Trans-Pacific ITM to you John and Adam life o greetings from the sir producer Serge AD an undisclosed location of the central california coast where several clans have meant to launch a new couple into The universe I can hear the Pacific Ocean crashing in the background while I compose this message as I reflect on the celebrations Of the day and the sounds of the waves from Japan coming to the California coast. I think of how

1:37:07 We're all connected by oceans, how we are all connected by oceans airwaves and ideas. We exchange in the time we spend together it's a little bit much What are you doing? Please I just feel like I'm in the mood for the harmonica. Alright, now this is good! I had it working and I'd play it. Yeah, I'm good. Please give Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Little Girl Yay Karma shot... This is interesting isn't it we have the same exact request. Okay, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Little Girl Yay. And he says a shout out to Matt and Amy as they start their married life by the sea

1:37:45 in the same day that my wife and I got married 17 years ago. Keep up the great work, kittens and courage! Sir J.D." Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs... Let's vote for jobs! He wants a link to his PDF which he is doing some doning Doning? Doning. Doning. He's donating anyone who is matching funds kind of thing So Nate Wilson in Charleston, South Carolina. Gorgeous city $270 and 91 cents I thank you for your courage my wife and i had lunch with Dame Jennifer and her husband anonymous name a few weeks ago here in Charleston And had a great no agenda discussion with more to come it was great to meet other like minds and I do want to say

CHAPTER 31 / 57 Discussion

Meetups, Dame Monica and Sir Ready Kilowatt

The hosts discuss the success of recent meetups where listeners found common ground despite different political backgrounds. Dame Monica Lansing and Sir Andrew Larchman are thanked, and John Grumling is knighted as Sir Ready Kilowatt.

meetups· dame monica· sir ready kilowatt· knighthood· alberta· taiwan

1:38:32 I get notes from people and they really enjoy when they hook up with other no agenda people. Yes, you should really try and do this more often everyone to try and do that is I'm telling you guys it's like we put together like I think he had 14 people in the first meetup in like eight in the second mm-hmm And most these people never knew each other right? And there was just instant friends yeah It's great isn't it It's just something to watch. So we're matchmakers. Celebrity matchmakers is what we are. But no, it's fun to watch because you don't have the douchebag Obama bot in there You don't have these types of people that are just off kilter I've also seen where you have people who come from multiple political persuasions still finding common ground

1:39:20 It's not like there are no Democrats in our listening audience. No, there are plenty of Democrats but most are independents. We had a great agenda discussion this morning. It was great to meet other like-minded people. Please accept this donation on my behalf 27091 and remaining amount get me to double knighthood. Baronette Wilson of the Low Country is good ring to it can you please send me a house buying karma shot? Yeah absolutely here comes by the house... Daymonica Lansing, Drayton Valley Alberta. Do we have a picture of Daymonica? I don't know but she's got the greatest name going. Mm-hmm. Monika Lansing! That's right. And here she comes! Daymonica Lansing

1:40:06 In the morning boys, I really enjoyed your Punchy Thursday show you were both in fine form. Since i haven't donated it a while I figured it was time so she did." Sir Andrew Larchman in Taipei City who we credited somehow...I don't know how. Well there was the messed up spreadsheet Yeah imagine my amusement he says when I first heard my name credited as executive producer for her second time for the same donation A freebie! Nevertheless, it was a kick-ass episode with both of you sharing fun stories from the road. Please play for me It's what we do so you don't have to C span jingle which we haven't played for awhile and also send me some karma for an upcoming speech I'm giving at the University here in Taiwan all right here We go You've got karma

1:41:08 Good luck there with the speech. Onward with Black Knight Scott Spencer in Dawsonville, Georgia 22222 I know that Club 33 is long gone but this double making it rain donation would love a call out for Hillary and Uma to come on stage can i get a clippity-clop delicious LGY thanks black knight scott Okay clippity-clop what do you want? Clippity-Clops So delicious my friend Hillary Delicious and then LGY Karma? Yeah. Oh man, okay I'm just lining it all up here. The message is clear. It's almost too delicious to believe my friend you've got karma. Ah the things we do John Grumling in Battlement Mesa Colorado 201

1:42:12 I think my last donation got lost in the space time vortex podcasting across temporal rifts. Ain't like dust and craps, I guess. At any rate here's another great analysis of tech reporting unfortunately cut short by the way I lie...I think I'm a knight at this point if there is no time limit on when the 1K is added up? No there's not so I'd like to be sir ready kilowatt If not it would nice know how much further have to go get their okay Yeah, he'll be knighted today. Is that right? So Eric did the math. Onward with Christopher and Michelle Holman. Yes, they came in on an email note which I will shift to...

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Travel Tips, Seafood and Ripe Peaches

A discussion on travel safety includes tips to avoid eating seafood or warm fruit before flights to prevent illness. The hosts also praise the quality of ripe peaches currently available at the Austin farmers market and provide advice on storing them in paper bags.

travel tips· seafood· peaches· austin· farmers market· food safety

1:42:55 Chris is at the meetup. I don't think he was, was it Michelle there? I think so. John and Adam, yeah right, Michelle she's the... If this is the two, he works in IT but she's a farmer. John and Adam has a pleasure hanging out with John to meet up in Michigan. It's rare to me someone who is no different than he is off the air as he is on. Thank you for- Hey wait whoa! That's huge Did you say, well I know but i don't know if it's a compliment or not. Yeah that's okay. Because I'm acting on this show! Like every prostitute just reading the prompter. I am reading the prompter thank you for your courage in the tip never to eat at a place owned by Cambodians

1:43:41 I had a lot of tips for these things. And by the way, the tip never eat seafood before a flight we adhere to that! We talk to each other well what do you want from me? No no seafood not before the flight. Right i think it's just a good cautionary thing to do yeah absolutely i mean you know you can get seafood anywhere you don't have to eat before you take a flight stupid idea bad shrimp uh What was the other tip? Not...no seafood before a flight and It was the second part to that tip. Well, I think it's sushi for sure but um...I don't like eating fruit on the road. I eat it at home because the only time I've ever really gotten sick and even when we came out of Mexico is because of warm fruit. The fruit goes bad really fast so you have to be very cautious about fruit. Shrimp for sure thats the worst. By the way, the peaches are ripe here in Austin. Oh they're fantastic!

1:44:35 A ripe peach from a peach growing state like Austin or Georgia. We went to the farmers market yesterday and everyone was really happy to see us of course, because they're like oh you haven't moved away! And the strawberry guy who always gets strawberries from him also had peaches and he's like here try this! And we were just like give me a bag...and by the way peaches you want to keep them in a paper bag Peaches that's how you want to keep your peaches a brown paper bag in the outside of the refrigerator or in there if you have A cellar the best places in the cellar, but in a cold dark place In a brown paper bag this is from maybe mixing up Chris Holman with another couple But whatever that yeah I think I am oh all right Chris is right right now. Chris is not the farmers Husband he is a it is dr.. Chris anyway, he

1:45:28 Says accept my donation to simple value for value. No need to put my name on a brick He wants a creepy Charlie Rose for his beautiful wife Michelle and some karma of course, okay Creepy Charlie Tell me about this sexuality it's in your DNA You've got karma creepy indeed Yeah Chris was the guy on over to my other side of the table I'm actually did fairly well with names on this trip because you know, I can remember everybody's face but it's the names is confusing. It just something that I am not good at if I was it'd be in sales. Well we can't remember half the people we talk about on the show which are we call them? Watermelon Head, Lucifer, Lucy...

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Native Advertising, Walmart and PR Deconstruction

A listener's observation of identical news stories about Walmart hiring veterans is used to define the difference between public relations and native advertising. The hosts explain how to identify copycat articles by searching for specific, obscure sentences on Google.

native advertising· walmart· public relations· google news· veterans

1:46:23 Right, we have better nicknames. Much much better name I think you should be just have the right to be able to rename anybody well i've got a bunch of nicknames for A lot of people we met either as you know the The beer aficionado is one of them Anyway onward with this list this is a big list yeah Was David K and Tempe Arizona $200 and He says, I hope to see small donations helps recoup some of the funds spent on your trips. Actually feel bad you guys don't get to take real vacations instead have to continue work on the show Well that's not true we did get Easter off and we appreciate it We took one day off In any event i'd like to thank you both for opening my eyes to native advertising And I have a native advertising deconstruction later in the show Good

1:47:16 I need a ridiculous strike because they have some new rules. I've decided that yeah, we need them. I totally agree I was about to say we need some new rules because people are calling product placement and native advertising That's not true Yeah. Good, okay we'll get to that I need a ridiculous story in the paper today about how Walmart is the greatest company ever for giving jobs to veterans i hopped on Google News and with a few search item terms found over 100 similar stories all over the US in the past three days there are people that by the way many of the meetup folks use this trick which we talk about on the show which you take it and very obscure sentence within an article was obviously was

1:47:52 you know it's just a weird thing to put in used search the whole sentence on google you find all the copycat articles exactly the same uh... i found over some of our similar stories all over the u s in the past three days this is no coincidence its native advertising at its worst and listeners of the show this actually not need about rising that they are as p r's whether he are getting don't confuse native advertising with public relations The show, I Will Not Be Duped. Thank you for your... It is a dupe that's true but it's not paid. Donated advertising requires... Do you want to do it now? Why don't just do it now and people who don't listen to the donation segment will miss this excellent analysis that'll teach them right Well yeah they go to my clip list Let's do it! What the hell? So what I ran into is actually have a couple of clips here that would fall into this category but let me open this

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PetChatz, Native Advertising Case Study

The "PetChatz" device, which allows owners to video chat with their dogs and dispense treats remotely, is presented as a case study in native advertising. The hosts point out earmarks of paid content, such as overproduction, lack of negative criticism, and the use of non-local reporters in news packages.

petchatz· native advertising· facetime· dogs· pavlov· overproduction

1:48:42 This one is, oh I have to set this up. Yeah? I spotted it and here's a couple of rules that i'm going to present. This was an advertisement looking like a feature story now this could've been PR but it was a little long. Generally speaking, a video press release is very short. They're short, they're less than a minute typically. This was a three-minute piece that had the video press release part of it and there was voiceover on the local level and then there was also our reporter in this story which was not the same report...this is the giveaway! The reporter in this story was not the same as the reporter doing the voice over. Ah now dead giveaway

1:49:26 And the other thing is when you're doing a story about a trend or an idea and it's product specific, you end up with what I would call native advertising. This is for a dog... Let me see what am I gonna call this? It's like a eye- What's that thing on Macintosh? The eye face? FaceTime? FaceTime! Video chat? This is FaceTime for dogs. We've all seen the videos... Let me finish, I'm sorry It's like the front of its cut off and the back of it's cut off because it still very long this was about a four minute piece okay hit it we've all seen the videos that dogs caught on camera when their owners aren't home stealing muffins tearing up the couch crying during the day

1:50:23 People have been doing their best to use technology to see and hear their pets. But now there's a way to make that a two-way street, and interact with them no matter where you are. My dad was Skyping with my sister and the family dog came running into the room because she recognized Molly's voice. Braden Krolls father Dr Mark Kroll who is medical device inventor got the idea for way to alleviate that doggie guilt a few years ago He thought, well what can I do about this? There's got to be something that I can make out of this experience. So this is what he and business partner Lisa Lavin came up with. The Minneapolis based company named it Pet Chats! The device allows you to call your pet from anywhere in the world as long as you have a phone tablet or computer

1:51:09 I love the ability to be able to call her in the middle of day, check in and give a little bit stimulation. Maybe make her sit or do a few tricks and give her a couple treats. Oh by the way can also record it because she did this really cute thing and I can share with my friends on Facebook or YouTube Think of it as Skyping with your dog. You connect with the device mounted at your pet's eye level at home, a ringtone alerts them and then you can interact with each other on screen and to reward your four-legged family member you can push this button to dispense a treat There's just a missing link and missing peace of mind between pet parents and their pets when they're gone all day. Pet Chats follows the basic principles of classic conditioning or better known as Pavlov's dog in just three simple steps you can train your dog how to use the new device, and yes even old dogs can learn new tricks especially when their eyesight and hearing diminishes the power of scent becomes particularly important

1:52:07 The fan blows the scent out and it's an associative response so that your pet learns when you smell that scent. They know this is the fun experience. Dogs are the most social being out there besides humans, and they love connecting. Jodi Caro is a dog behavior consultant and this is her Shih Tzu Buddha. Wow. I had to cut it off because it was going to go on forever and so some of the earmarks of these things is that they're overproduced with sound... First of all, It's a product that is fucking stupid! I'm sorry. So look for stuff that's over produced with sound effects and funny clips all cut together which is unlikely for anyone to do in a newsroom They don't have time. No time to be cutting a piece which has intro voiceover b-roll quote

1:53:00 A voiceover b-roll quote back done. You don't have time to do four minute long complex pieces like this for just a regular package, there's this one including and I keep an eye out for this too unboxing they actually unbox the thing right so look for that that indication and there is never anything negative The very little negative, if there's a negative thing it's joke-negative. In other words they make fun of some little aspect of it but they don't really have a negative thing to say so that's a dead giveaway. They also mentioned the company where is located just in case and this is just a classic piece of native advertising I don't see being...

1:53:38 anything else in this case. I don't know how they placed it, it's possible that they were suckered into playing this thing on the local station because their heart up like you said this was a bad time to do a lot of things because everyone is on vacation they took off on Friday and a lot people aren't even listening our show but thats good example. So let me just say one of the rules as the way understand native advertising is the story is not produced by the news outfit. It is produced by the company that the story's about, that is really the native part and on the web they also have access to publish that directly onto Forbes or Buzzfeed or New York Times

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Cat Anecdote, Answering Machines and Pet Care

A host shares a story from 1982 Amsterdam about using an illegal answering machine to talk to his cat, "Dickhead," when he couldn't make it home. The discussion concludes with advice to only get pets if the owner has the time to properly care for them in person.

cats· amsterdam· answering machines· ptt· pet care· anecdote

1:54:23 And let me just say about this story, when I was 19 and you know...I get this fetish complete from my parents. You're back in school in a month or you know where your paying rent to whatever and all of the sudden it was on national television! And I moved out immediately got a place in Amsterdam got my own pad then but I would- Pad? Now this is before self.. I didn't have a phone had to wait four months for them to hook up a phone into apartment This isn't yet yeah 1982 83 And you know, they had to dig up the streets to add a new phone line. You could only have a gray approved PTT telephone and this is way before all of... no cell phones although there were coming but really nothing at the time and for some reason I got a cat! I was lonely!

1:55:13 I swear to God, I got a cat. Dickhead was his name and I went to the... Dickhead? Yeah Dickey but I figured it would be funny to call him dickhead because at the time in Holland no one knew this phrase Oh so you could yell out the window Hey! Dickhead! Exactly yeah okay And this cat was with me for 24 years that's how long this thing and he was like 1 when i got him then he was in a solitary confinement cell in what do you call it? The pound shelter because he was attacking all the other animals. Like, okay he's good for me this is how stupid I was yeah that guy is great but then he was fantastic a lovely animal but he was a little weird... But once or twice it would happen that you know I couldn't come home either I was working I think one time actually hooked up with some girl on at a road show or something believe me this didn't happen often with me

1:56:02 And I felt really bad about my cat because he wasn't gonna get dinner until the next day and you couldn't just call people back in the day. You couldn't just send him a text message, and I had an answering machine one that you plugged into the wall... ...and that was illegal! You weren't allowed to plug anything into the phone network at the time but I would literally call and I had the volume turned up and say hey Dickie Hey dickhead I'll be home tomorrow morning and then we'd talk to the cat so it's not a crazy product idea No, no. I can see people that...I think a couple of mistakes with the product they could have pointed out if it has a little container i guess you could drop up dog biscuit or something a little treat they say but the dog would be sniffing it out you'd be sniffin underneath where the little drop box was right? That's what dogs do they got great noses and they'll be sniffing

1:56:51 Sniffing there, and then he'd be wondering what's in there And he knocked this thing off the wall and then he started pawing at it and maybe bashing it grabbing It with his teeth and throwing it somewhere to get to treat that's in there. I think it has a That's a flaw how about this? How about just if you get a pet make sure you're around to take care of it or don't get a pet No, that would be my advice yeah, oh, I hate it so much this Get a pet and be like, you know You don't have time to walk him what it's like And I can do this new pets But I can't but kind of relationship with the dog or a cat where I'm either cleaning his shit box or picking up his shit. I can't do it

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Social Studies, Counter-Propaganda and Show Promotion

A listener reports that his daughter uses the podcast to find counterpoints to "propaganda" in her social studies classes. The hosts promote their website and remind listeners that their executive producer credits are legitimate for use on professional platforms like LinkedIn.

social studies· propaganda· education· intuition· dvorak.org· promotion

1:57:28 No more. It's fine, all right nice interesting thing we got three people left John Grumley We mentioned in battle met Mesa Colorado for 200 bucks And he says I might have achieved knighthood by now just paying up for the excellent and well thought-out coverage of net neutrality Well thank you that would be you pack a derry and oh era to Darien's back In Chabuco Canyon, California with 200 bucks my daughter is getting frustrated in her social studies classes and asked me to help her come up with counterpoints all the propaganda. Her teacher was spewing I simply told her listen to back episodes of the no agenda show now she has all the ammo she needs. This is what makes me smile man when we get stuff like this

1:58:11 Yeah, I agree. We're making a difference in people's lives! My parents would be so proud. Sir James Romano in New Fairfield Connecticut 200 bucks. Thank you for all the excellent information you discover You guys are truly using your intuition. Peace and love to you and your families, and that concludes our group of well-wishers and donors and executive and associate executive producers for show 620. I want to remind everybody that we still have another show coming up next week it'll be 621 and Dvorak dot org slash NA is the place to go also Dvorak Let's see what else we got. Channeldvorak.com slash NA, thenoagendashow.com has a button so it is No Agenda Nation. All right. Dvorak dot org slash NA. All of these executive and associate executive producer credits are real credits there's no difference between this and something you get for a Hollywood production well there is a difference

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Veterans Administration, VA Scandal and Survey Fraud

The Veterans Administration (VA) scandal is discussed, focusing on reports that officials in Arizona manipulated waiting lists by removing veterans after they died. The hosts also suspect fraud in a survey that claimed veterans were satisfied with VA services, which was allegedly used to promote the Affordable Care Act.

veterans administration· va· barack obama· pbs· npr· healthcare scandal

1:59:04 Unlike those phonies, if you want us to vouch for your credit we'll be happy to do that. Not a lot of people take us up on that and use it for LinkedIn or anywhere credits are accepted. Please continue to propagate the one and only formula that we have for you! Our formula is this... We go out, hit people in the mouth. Shut Up! It's really interesting. I'm looking at, just looking at CNN in the corner of my eye Obama went to Afghanistan for a surprise trip to visit the troops Memorial Day i guess yeah because you know let's draw the attention away from the veterans health care which is a debacle here's something i was trying to work on him still need to i may or may not finish this little

2:00:00 project, but the veterans... I was listening to one of the PBS, I believe while driving around Detroit and they were talking about how you did. They were talking about the debacle and what a disaster it is because Obama promised in advance that he was going do something about the VA thing so screwed up. I think for our listeners in other countries can just give a two line description? Yeah what's happening here is the Veterans Administration which takes care of the veterans war veterans and then servicemen is apparently corrupt And one of the things that Arizona office was doing, there's a long waiting list to get served by this operation. And the waiting list can be months and sometimes years. So what they did was to make their numbers look better they took all people on the waiting list and then when they died, they took them off the waiting list as though they never had to wait for anything

2:00:52 Which made their numbers look better when they sent to wash a well. We don't have that many people on the waiting list because they're dead! Right, they died during their wait? They died during their wait and so this has become a huge scandal... And this was not a matter of not enough doctors or enough money Where's the corruption? How come these people weren't being helped? Well thats what we would like to know One of things I was interested in is one comment PBS, NPR people said which of course they never follow up on. The real interesting part is that they did a survey of veterans about the service at the VA and it came out very positive! And this results in the survey was used to leverage Obamacare because well look here's the government program that works

2:01:43 And now that I want to get a hold of that survey because that was obviously fraud. That survey was bogus! I'm glad you're bringing this up, but guarantee you someone in our audience one the producers will find this survey for you Yes it would be nice This is we have such an outstanding... if your relatively new our listeners are actually our producers and i've been working for a week and a half now, I'm getting this email from one of our producer's friends who now is also a producer. Boots on the ground in Nigeria! Oh good... And you know this is encrypted stuff you know it's been going back and forth It's a very long email but if you want I can just read some of the highlights

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Nigeria, Boko Haram and Oil Interests

An extensive email from a producer in Nigeria provides a different perspective on Boko Haram, suggesting the group's recent kidnappings were retaliatory. The analysis links the conflict to a struggle between Western interests and China over Nigerian oil, predicting a potential military coup and the eventual splintering of the country.

nigeria· boko haram· china· cia· oil· jonathan goodluck

2:02:30 That give a little different perspective on what's going on with Boko Haram, with the oil With Jonathan Goodluck and with the girls. You want to do that now or you wanna... We've been talking a lot we can do a clip if you want just to... No let's do it Okay, what makes this particular kidnapping so special? For one thing the March 2014 Boko Haram assault on Giwa army barracks in Maiduguri the capital of the Borno state and The freeing of Boko Haram over a thousand civilian prisoners held by the Nigerian Army among these prisoners women and children family members of Boko Haram fighters The site was filmed by Bokorama on YouTube and that link is in the show notes. Later on, the Nigerian military caught up with most of the freed prisoners and killed everyone they found! Almost all them were trying to give themselves up about 600 these prisoners were executed so this is... it was a retaliatory kidnapping And this of course you'll hear from nobody as to what this kidnapping was really about

2:03:30 As you can see from the video, these guys have quite the arsenal now. How did they go from street kids to a force with access to military hardware and training? Well three schools of thought one the CIA via Libya The second Nigerian government military themselves and third well as both how again are the CIA in the Nigerian government involved in this oil and China It's not just about dialing down Nigeria's military influence over West Africa it's mostly about oil and China There are training camps in the border region to Cameroon where Boko Haram fighters are being trained by CIA and Arabs from Libya and Syria. Recently captured Boko Haram fighters said they were being trained by white men in camps near the Cameroon border."

2:04:11 There's also significant multi-generational Lebanese community, mostly in the north of Nigeria. At one point one of our previous military dictators wife in the early 90s facilitated Hezbollah arms trafficking through Nigeria into Lebanon yes over 50 billion dollars in oil money are unaccounted for as mentioned your previous show but that is not all there is to it China plays a massive role in Nigeria and China has been trying to get into the oil industry which has historically been dominated by European and American corporations and interests. China also features prominently in the countries on Nigeria's northeastern border, Niger, Chad and Cameroon." Back to the hashtag bring back our girls! This was very interesting to me... Those 200 girls were kidnapped last month for a very specific reason these are not hostages to be exchanged for hostages held by the government these girls are meant to be rewards to the fighters involved in the Giwa barracks assault last March that was the goal here

2:05:03 But then someone put a hashtag out there, now the whole world is involved. The US sent in 10 Marines who apparently are hanging out in Abuja doing not much and by the way wouldn't it be great if this is just me talking... If we could figure out a way of course Twitter can do it who used the hashtag first? Yeah! Wouldn't that be fantastic if you could I mean if we just had the twitter fire hose we could figure it out That would be such important information. Well if you search for the hashtag, you should be able to figure it out that way For the first person who used it? I don't think so Yeah they have them all... The hashtag search will give you all of people who have used it All of them Whether you follow or not and it should reveal at least within the first one

2:05:48 You can go to the first, because they have the dates. So you can at least go to that first one and ask them where they got it That wouldn't be hard But if it's been used 10 thousand times what? Do you scroll forever until you finally get to the first... Well, you can't sort by date Can you I think it shows up by date Can you reverse it so you get the first one at the top No, you cannot do that Maybe one of our producers can figure this out I think we can come up with that guy. Well, I'm back to this email while the goal is to get a grip over Nigeria drive out the Chinas and split the country for oil either officially like in South Sudan or unofficially like in Libya The powers involved in this game have no clue what they're getting into

2:06:27 February 2015 is when the next Nigerian presidential elections are due. Jonathan Goodluck intends to run for a second term, but already I'm noticing Western media burning him and the Nigerian military The US and France are going to get rid of him either peacefully or by a quote heinous Boko Haram terrorist attack I believe, he says...I don't know if it's a he or she actually. There is a military coup coming this is a good point the military splintering and eventually going to break I think the problem was not originally part of the plan as being severely underestimated I believe Jonathan successor meant to be miss Ngozi Okojo-Iwealia

2:07:07 current Nigerian finance minister, previously a managing director at the World Bank. And I'll add the links to all of that in the show notes While Onkhojo is meant to be the next president things will not turn out that way unfortunately The almost inevitable military coup and the wild card That is Ansaru The eventual rise and resurgence of other ethnic and religious military groups in Nigeria will drag the country down into a second civil war Which is good? That's what we always like One that will have Iraq level body counts and eventually lead to the split of the country into at least five or six different countries and or autonomous ethnic religious regions. Rubble eyes! Yep, I think the US in France in all this madness will rapidly green zone both oil regions, the Niger Delta and South-South

2:07:54 and the Chad Basin in the Northeast. I also believe the Chinese hacking scandal is bogus, and is related to the unfolding events Nigeria and the general maligning of the Chinese image in Africa. Keep an eye on the news relating to Chinese involvement in Africa and how the exploitation meme is suddenly cropping up." And this email is five times as long, but these are kind of the highlights I thought would be interesting. Yeah and we've been keeping an eye on China all along... Yes of course yeah But i think the only people that do that with all the news analysis out there, I don't think anybody brings up Chinese Also also the president... They bring up the bullcrap about their Chinese spying! Yeah You know they bring up the negative stuff The President sent a letter to the Senate and he says Dear Mr Speaker

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US Troops in Chad, War Powers Resolution

President Obama notified Congress that 80 U.S. military personnel have been deployed to Chad to assist in the search for the kidnapped Nigerian schoolgirls. The action was taken under the War Powers Resolution, which the hosts note allows for troop deployment without a formal declaration of war.

chad· us military· war powers resolution· schoolgirls· barack obama· senate

2:08:43 Approximately 80 US Armed Forces personnel have deployed to Chad as part of the U.S efforts to locate and support the safe return of over 200 schoolgirls." This action has been directed in furtherance of U.S national security, and he basically says I'm providing this report is part of my efforts to keep Congress fully informed consistent with the War Powers Resolution. In other words it's okay for me to send troops anywhere under the war powers resolution So, of course we know there's no need to really declare any war or anything anymore. No. I don't need to do that But well done Salma Hayek had the bring back our girls hashtag on the red carpet in Cannes Well done and of course today We finalized the European elections and we have the election in Ukraine looks like getting real-time updates the Belgian Nationalist Party

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European Elections, Geert Wilders and Nationalist Parties

The 2014 European Parliament elections saw a surge in support for nationalist and "far-right" parties across Britain, France, and the Netherlands. In the Netherlands, Geert Wilders' Freedom Party (PVV) performed lower than expected, which analysts attribute to low turnout and controversial remarks regarding Moroccans.

european union· geert wilders· netherlands· pvv· france 24· nationalism

2:09:44 getting a lot of votes uh... you know that's kind of dropped the ball i have the dutch vote to clip from france twenty four they were saying it was a big disappointment The European elections have kicked off Britain and the Netherlands were the first to vote on Thursday although a wave of Euroscepticism grips the EU a low turnout is expected and far-right parties are likely to be the big winners of this vote I love the far right. Yeah, no they France 24 had like most media outlets It can't be right or conservative They can't use those words they have to use far right. Yeah, they barely get away from neo-Nazi but far right not just right way over there in Nazi land. However according to a Dutch exit poll the Nationalist Freedom Party the PVV didn't do as well as it had hoped Delano de Souza explains It's a devastating blow to the dutch far right

2:10:40 According to ExitPoll's release Thursday, the Freedom Party led by Geert Wilders is set to finish behind pro-European rivals. Known for its anti Islam and anti EU stance, the party is blaming a low turnout of 37% for poor performance. The Netherlands has not become more pro Europe. Two thirds of voters stayed at home. I can only say to you that we fought like lions. Honestly, the exit polls are a bit disappointing but let's not be too upset over it." So we don't have the final tally in yet there are couple of things that were... I think Geert Wilders may have done incorrectly. I think he got some bad advice

2:11:23 Some last minute stunts, one which was immediately grabbed by the incumbents and they said all of the stuff he's saying it's crazy we have to send special delegates to Saudi Arabia. They don't want to do business with us that could ruin two billion euros worth of business between Saudi Arabia and The Netherlands And then here is a report from Euronews about something he did just before the elections. Far right again! Euronews far right! He's been campaigning for the EU election in Brussels just outside the European Parliament. Cutting out a symbolic Dutch star from the EU flag, he made his feelings clear. So we cut out of flag of the euro... The star? Yeah, yeah, start out on the flag like I'm taking that back with me because the Dutch don't have..I don't think

2:12:13 Flag desecration, although who cares about this flag? Is not the way to go. I think it's a bad stunt I think he's... Yeah, no that's a bad stunt and it's meaningless. They nail him for something else too if you played Dutch vote part two you can hear there was some other thing he did that was a screw up. Polls indicate the Freedom Party will get around 12.2% of the vote bringing the number of seats it has in the European Assembly By the way, just need to stop this for second This is as I understand people have three days to vote when you have this kind of messaging out there on day 2 You're really influencing the votes

2:12:53 Yeah, there's actually the idea of having three days to vote is bad. Very bad! The United States said because they don't close the polls all at the same time They have influenced voter turnout in the West Coast which is the last polls to close so it's all over but Don't even leave your home No reason! It has in the European Assembly, down from 5 to 3. The Christian Democrats and Centrist Democrat 66 both pro-European parties are positioned to get over 30% of the vote with 4 seats each. The Freedom Party had a lead in opinion polls until controversial remark from Wilders before voting He called for fewer Moroccans –a comment widely viewed as racist With Europe struggling to recover from economic crisis and high unemployment

2:13:39 Parties of the far right in member states like France, the UK and Austria are expected to see a surge in support. Yeah by the way Miss Mickey... The old racist tag is our winner! Well that's been going on for awhile I mean he's just saying what Pim Fortuyn was saying in 2001 By the way Miss Mickey just walked in with a lovely peach for me. I thought you just had a peach? No I had the peach yesterday at the market she just brought in a peach for me to eat now Oh you shouldn't be eating it out here I'm eating during the clips. You know you Yeah, baby boom boom. I didn't even get half the stuff. I wanted to get today Why I got a son odd couple oddball clip so we can get out of the oddballs? I found bill moores had some guy on ah Yeah, like a lousy version of Charlie Rose was this David Suzuki

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Global Warming, David Suzuki and Willful Blindness

Environmentalist David Suzuki appeared on Bill Moyers' program, suggesting that politicians should be imprisoned for "willful blindness" regarding climate change. The hosts criticize the shift in terminology to "climate disruption" and the use of fear-mongering to drive economic agendas.

global warming· david suzuki· bill moyers· climate change· gallup poll

2:14:37 No, I don't know who it was. It was some guy in global warming. Yeah, David Suzuki Okay well he has this guy and he makes the strangest comment In analysis of the people rejecting the global warming thesis By man-made global warming we're talking about man made global warming thesis anthropogenic And i found this to be like...and I hate to use the word telling but I think there's something about what He says at the end of this clip that is like Wow, something's wrong with these people. There was a Gallup poll in this country a few weeks ago that said despite rising temperatures and all of this strange weather we've been having the percentage of Americans who care a great deal about global warming has been dropping from 41% six years ago to 34 percent today What is it about human nature that wants to believe the worst can't happen? I don't know

2:15:34 I have a different clip from him. Well, let me just stop here Yeah What is it about human nature that leads them to believe the worst? Can't happen. I don't know. Oh, I don't know He said the other guy says what kind of thinking is this so you're supposed to go around your whole life and analyzing your situation whatever it is as a worst-case scenario Is that what these, this liberal operation is all about? Just looking everything at such a negative level. That it's...that is all everything's worst-case scenario because that's what do you know I think they're saying something different No! No, I think the way Really what they're saying is how come our fear mongering is not working That's what I think they really saying

2:16:27 That's an interesting interpretation. That's exactly what I hear and of course now we've moved to climate disruption Because it's not working yeah, no I know it's not working so now It's like you know what let's just say it's happening We get over the fact And whether it's happening or not and just say oh, it's happening. It's already happening who cares? We don't need to stop it when now we just need to prepare for which is still in economic bonanza Here's that same, I think it was David Suzuki and here is the piece I got from this Bill Moyers thing. Our politicians should be thrown in the slammer for willful blindness If we are in a position of being able to act and we see something going on and we refuse To acknowledge the threat or act on it. We can be taken to court for willful blindness Is that true? No, willful blindness your honor what is the client charged with? Willful blindness I don't think so why is he saying this there's uh

2:17:29 There are certain kinds of things that they're called by camera what the term is off. I know that they they sentenced six Meteor on our geologists in Italy because they didn't yeah Communicate to the severeness of the earth's forms of negligence very charged with But this is not negligent, it's not then it's not willful blindness It's an opinion I think this takes a lot of guts to throw these... Now they're calling everyone, first they call them a bunch of denialists and now they're all criminals according to this idiot. I think that we are being willfully blind to the consequences for our children and grandchildren it's an intergenerational crime It's an intergenerational crime

2:18:21 Hmm that this is interesting little thingies and the problem is if that should happen If politicians were to be convicted of willful blindness to the fate of the earth in future generations There would have to be mass arrests and lots more funding for new prisons We're not talking about a mere handful of culprits. It's hard even to know where to start That was really weird Yeah, no he this is a loss. This these guys are like I don't know what it is But it's like in its madness as insanity the way they react to stuff It's just something else ahead on nutty agenda 21 stuff oh yeah

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James O'Keefe, Anti-Fracking Sting and Middle Eastern Oil

A sting operation by James O'Keefe caught Hollywood figures, including Ed Begley Jr. and environmental filmmakers, agreeing to accept millions in funding from "Middle Eastern oil interests" for an anti-fracking movie. The hosts highlight the hypocrisy of environmentalists willing to hide the source of their funding.

james o'keefe· ed begley jr.· fracking· sundance· middle eastern oil· environmentalism

2:19:16 Now, I can't play any of the video because you really need the subtitles but you've seen this video that O'Keefe guy did where he... quite a sting operation with all these Hollywoods. Ed Begley Jr., Meryl Hemingway and then the film production couple Who run what is the I gotta get did you tell me you know about this? No, but you're kidding my I might because I do remember Susan in black and white that yeah Okay, so talking about something. Yeah Yes one person after another they're all saying something that well he says no will was okay. I'm uh I represent Arab money and they want to fund your anti fracking movie for nine million dollars

2:20:09 But of course you can never disclose that this is coming from Middle Eastern oil interests. And these guys are all in, they say yeah no problem now we'll keep this locked up we won't tell anybody the source of our money We know how to do this and we need know how to run it through non-profits and everything that we always talk about It's well worth watching its about 20 minutes Now, you know take it with a grain of salt of editing. But really if especially Ed Begley Jr., what dick is all in on everything? Oh yeah no he's a true believer just walks whatever lockstep but it's really the um... It's the let me get their names here The couple who they're involved with which film festival are they with

2:21:00 Sundance? Josh and Rebecca Tickle, t-i-c-k-e-l-l team known for their environmental movies such as 2008's Fuel which won an award at Sundance and was later screened at the White House. Yeah... And these people they are shameless! Like we don't give a crap where the money comes from. We just want to make a movie. As long there is money. Yeah, as long as there is money we just want to make a movie which really shows you how true Hollywood works But there's no clips you can't pull any clips because you really have to see it all in context. Wow, it's great to watch! Just more douchebags. Kerry, but no clip of this... He was at the Clean Tech Challenge in Mexico City earlier in the week. Pissed that I couldn't find a video. He told the audience that temperatures in Europe and Vietnam were unprecedented and had broken every record that has ever been seen

2:22:03 Except for the real record which was achieved in 1926. I just hate it when i can't get a video. These guys are so full of crap, its astonishing actually and just never lets up But people aren't buying it. They're, you know... No I think the public is just too suspicious Well they're doing it wrong! How many times do I have to say that you've got to find an angle This has- You gotta be with the hip kids or something It's gonna be about gays! Gays yes Global warming is killing them Maybe killing the gay whales or something? I don't know, you gotta come up with some kind of gay angle That's what people respond to right now at the time being I found another interesting little piece of propaganda that was dropped on Charlie Rose

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David Remnick, Vladimir Putin and Ukraine Elections

New Yorker editor David Remnick discussed the "malevolent" influence of Vladimir Putin on Charlie Rose, focusing on the destabilization of Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea. The hosts argue that the Western media is ignoring the role of U.S. officials like Victoria Nuland in the conflict.

david remnick· vladimir putin· ukraine· crimea· charlie rose· petro poroshenko

2:22:53 David Remnick comes on the show, who is the editor-in-chief of The New Yorker magazine. They don't mention that but they just say he's from New York you don't know whether he was just a writer or not but he's their editor and he has got kind of an interesting background used to be a bureau chief in Moscow for one of the big news agencies speaks Russian and he's, you know which seems to be a guy who should know what the hell is going on. And it just sounds like more of this anti-Putin...and we've gotten some notes from people saying you guys sound like your pro Putin. In fact I said something...PUTIN! Somebody in Detroit said this too and it's like no we're not pro Putin were pro reality. In other words if there somebody trying to set Putin up

2:23:37 or just trying to besmirch him. He's the one who claims is the Americans that are causing all this trouble in Ukraine, which seems to be the case when you have Victoria Nuland handing out cookies to protesters what she even doing in Ukraine? But and we don't have any famous... No no one except us will say that she's married to Robert Kagan brother Frederick Kagan the neocons got us into Iraq. No one's telling you that but that's the answer Yeah, and there you have it. And so Putin has to be a straw man in this whole charade And there's no reason, I mean we're not Putin fans. It's just that we watch this unfold and somebody is being duped! Are you peeved that people think were Putin fans? I was a little irked by couple notes we received and the guy said what are where are getting at because we have questioned authority here is what we've done. Let's play David Remnick on Charlie Rosen it all anti-Putin. So are we in a new Cold War

2:24:40 Well, it's a question of the nature what the confrontation is going to be and for how long. It is one thing to try and understand as intellectual and strategic exercise to understand Putin sees the world. It's interesting to do that but I think its also important to call things by their proper name And what is happening is that Russia has tried for strategic reasons to destabilize a country to its south because in opposition to the west but also in opposition to the leadership of Ukraine. Do you think that person who you admired greatly, the President of United States is up to the challenge? I think they were taken by surprise Which is a problem It is

2:25:32 I think they were taken by surprise by the vehemence of this action. And, you know for a fact from reporting...I'm trying to do a longer piece on US-Russia relations and history just what your describing there were people in the Situation Room who many months ago said it is not entirely unthinkable that Russia will take Crimea but Don't think Russia was high on the priority list of foreign Subjects in the White House by any stretch of the imagination not with Syria around not with Getting out of a particularly getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan. That's what dominated things The so-called pivot to Asia and continuing concern about terrorism wherever it was the primary actor in this is

2:26:23 in the malevolent sense, in my view is Vladimir Putin. Now I am hoping he's taken Crimea and destabilized the East to a great degree... I hope there's some backing off! I'm hoping that Sunday's election in Ukraine goes well It seems to me for Russia to call Ukraine fascist is preposterous. Fascist countries don't call democratic elections, doesn't happen and that's what meant to happen on Sunday the likely victor is problematic this is Petrushenko who was known as the chocolate king but he's an oligarch

2:27:07 Ukraine has been terribly served by its leadership since 1991. Corrupt on the left, right and center. I don't want to say that Ukraine is some model... It's not the Czech Republic or Poland They have been very unlucky in their leaders and very unlucky in their politics for now a generation But if they're going to make it back things are not going to be improved the strong hand of Vladimir Putin from the north. Tell me about this sexuality, it's in your DNA! Now go out and burn the New York Magazine... what a dick Well, it was obviously a script because or perspective that is essentially a script. But it's the same thing and the way...it's almost rewriting the Maidan thing which is what we do the Europeans pushed promoted which is the revolution I got that day the corrupt ruler kicked out

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Sergei Lavrov, Neo-Nazis in Ukrainian Parliament

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov criticized the West for supporting a Ukrainian coalition that includes the "neo-Nazi" Svoboda party. Lavrov questioned why the U.S. and EU are cooperating with groups they previously condemned for anti-Semitic and anti-Russian rhetoric.

sergei lavrov· ukraine· neo-nazis· svoboda party· victoria nuland· bloomberg

2:28:05 Which, who was democratically elected. Who is democratically elected and this idea that a Nazi state or fascist state never has an election is nonsense! Hitler was elected? I mean... Yes by great popular vote I might point out. Mussolini was elected so this-I don't know where he comes up with that one Now Bloomberg had an interview with Russian Foreign Secretary Lavrov who speaks very proficient English. And he had a couple of things to say about the parliament as it will be chosen in Ukraine. Can somebody guarantee to us that the current coalition

2:28:46 would not embrace neo-Nazis like they do now. Now, the thing if I were to advise him... I would say work on the pronunciation of Nazis don't say Neo-nazies it doesn't sound right does it doesn't have the same impact no but he means a neo-nazis. Embrace neo-nazists like they do know this this Svoboda party was elected through the Ukrainian Parliament in December 2012 At that time, the European Union protested and just like in the case of Mr. Haider election in Austria they said no one in Ukraine, Ukrainian politics should cooperate with this Voboda party Now this gentleman and his party is a member of the coalition supported by the West promoting anti-Russian, anti-Semitic statements publicly in the parliament

2:29:38 And the lady from that party named Farion, who is in charge of educational reform applauded what happened in Odessa. So I believe we have to start not from artificial hypothetical questions whether somebody would be invading something but by the substance of how people are going to feel in any country on earth And we know that Victoria Nuland, strike that noodleman and John McCain were photographed with the leader of Sobota party as they were you know... and of course she mentioned in her famous F the EU phone call. There's a little more to that story according to Sergei Lavrov Not to support fascists and neo-nazis and not to support or not to support the government

2:30:28 which has as part of it a neo-Nazi party. Yes, the other thing I wanted to get response from Washington was this reports about the secret visit of the right sector coordinator Artemenko for alleged meetings with Victoria Nuland and we want answers to these questions because it's too serious to manipulate the events in Europe, across the Atlantic. Maybe it's not a remote control game you know? Yeah it is! Exactly what it is. We did well. So Noodleman secret meetings huh? Noodleman... Yeah we missed out on that one. Well thank you. He drops his little bombs expecting the media to pick up and of course the Russians must be beside themselves when they say nobody paid any attention to this

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Barack Obama, Afghanistan Visit and Turkish Mine Collapse

President Obama made a surprise visit to troops in Afghanistan on Memorial Day weekend, which the hosts view as a distraction from the VA healthcare scandal. They also briefly mention the political fallout for Prime Minister Erdogan following a deadly mine collapse in Turkey.

barack obama· afghanistan· veterans· turkey· erdogan· mine collapse

2:31:21 We told them, but no. Putin was asked an interesting question by CNBC on some panel the other day. He said we're a room full of adults so let's have an adult conversation President Obama has accused you as you know of untruths when it comes to supporting some of the separatist groups in the United States. Who is he to judge? Who is he to judge, seriously. If he wants to judge people why don't you get a job in court somewhere? Go get a job Obama! In the court somewhere if you want to judge but he says it with such a funny smile

2:32:01 Yeah, well I think any country that is in turmoil and in effect has a form of civil war taking place if you have Ukrainians killing Ukrainians. You know they might want to consider postponing the vote it's just not a good thing to do in general but okay this being pushed ahead Georgia Moldova and we have one more their signing their key EU Association pact on the 27th. Now this is all coming together and of course now the South Stream pipeline is cranking up to avoid gas transit via Ukraine I mean it's just a big game and there's about nothing more than oil, gas money turf as usual but no one's talking about right now who cares? We've got... they're not even talking about Brussels shootings

2:32:57 This will only be about Obama in Afghanistan, which of course is a setup to distract. I think also... Sorry? It's just the moment where we you know it's a weekend it's a lazy weekend nobody wants to work so yeah this all makes sense Except oh yeah us Oh yeah! Yeah today's like a holiday for everybody but us Also this uh the mines in Turkey The hundreds of dead miners The collapse of the... Yeah, yeah. How's you've been following the... Yeah this is really good course we have a Turkish vote coming up as well and this is really hurting Erdogan he's being called uh you know just criminal negligence almost makes you wonder Well yeah I think that were behind that too somehow but we get that guy does have to go It's not hard

2:33:57 Collapse the line really yes about stabilization is we were outstanding at it now We and since we were busted for it so many you know in the 50s especially when the CIA was doing into these Asian little asian countries and even some places in South America, it went they continued botching jobs And would became apparent who was behind it all You get good at it when you do it for so long and pretty soon. You're not you're not even in the picture No one mentions the CIA yeah No, so somebody's doing... I mean they mentioned the State Department because of the noodle men but that's... Synonymous. On the snow job front we have Brian Williams promoting his upcoming interview. A lot of people would say you have badly damaged your country

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Edward Snowden, First Look Media and Hush Money

First Look Media announced $550,000 in grants to organizations including the EFF and the Freedom of the Press Foundation. The hosts characterize these grants as "hush money" intended to prevent negative coverage of Pierre Omidyar's operations, while noting Glenn Greenwald's lucrative speaking tour.

edward snowden· glenn greenwald· first look media· eff· mother jones· pierre omidyar

2:34:46 Have you performed as you see it a public service. You'll be able to see and hear him tell his story including a lot we have not heard before and as you will see in here Edward Snowden has a lot more to say yeah yeah big interview on Wednesday so probably Tuesday night the BIA throwing out clips no idea what's going to happen there I did see A very interesting note as we've been, you know I keep paying attention to first look media and the fact that kind of nothing's coming out there. And Grand Gringois D'en Raffe he's running around America doing it as you said speaking gigs everywhere probably picking up... what do think is 25k a pop for him or more?

2:35:31 Well, you know I find it hard to believe that he'd get more. It's possible that he can get 50 but for the most part i'm guessing 10-25 Really? He is a prize winner now Yeah and he should be getting 50 But generally speaking, journalists and this sort of speaker... The guys who get the big dough are the ex-politicians. And they get big dough I mean you but i think it I think Clinton goes for a quarter of a million. Oh yeah 250 and the jet and hotel. Free Jet ride and probably hooker

2:36:09 These other guys are big CEOs, they can get... 25 is a good amount of money for talking for an hour. I think Gregg Greenwald don't have... He's gonna be disappointed he really believes that this movie is getting made just because someone has optioned the movie doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to get made or you'll ever see any money from it. The Wicky Leaks movie has killed his movie Yeah! Because you know how these guys And they're gonna...they just say, well you can't. We can't do it because until somebody shows us that this is viable as a topic and the government's going to tell them not to do it." Now here's what was interesting big announcement about First Look Media on Tuesday announced they will give $550,000 to support three organizations

2:36:59 Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press will get a $100,000 grant. The EFF, Electronic Frontier Foundation will get a $100,000 grant And the Freedom of the Press Foundation will receive a $350,000 grant which of course is the... The one Greenwald's in. Yeah! The one that he started with Poitras which actually it doesn't even go to them they're like a subsidiary and ultimately it winds up at Mother Jones It might, but I bet you Greenwald gets a piece of this. But I bet she gets a piece of it. This is hush money! This is shut up money. I'm sorry man... Hey man, I'm sorry didn't work out and yeah so we'll see who knows? You get it from Mother Jones. You want to get the Mother Jones from Mother Jone's which is a cynical operation they write some pretty good stuff They're not gonna write anything negative now Nope This is corruption

2:37:54 Why is Mother Jones taking money from an operation like this? From Omedia. Now they're never going to write a negative piece about him because he just bought them off This is the problem with the media today which is why we keep telling people that you have to listen to NOAA agenda because this is not the way we do business, We can't! Thank You Exactly right But I just wanted to...I had one little thing, just to wrap up Snowden. In America we have this weird tradition which seems to be like getting

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Valerie Jarrett, Pomona College Commencement and NSA Spying

White House advisor Valerie Jarrett delivered a commencement speech at Pomona College that included jokes about the government's ability to see what students do online. The hosts find the jokes inappropriate given the NSA's failure to prevent domestic attacks like the Isla Vista shooting despite the suspect's public threats.

valerie jarrett· pomona college· commencement speech· nsa· spying· jokes

2:38:42 More prevalent when we have graduation from colleges you want to get some kind of prominent figure to do the commencement speech Yeah, and it can be almost anybody Of course You want to have a Joe Biden or you want to have Barack Obama or Steve Jobs? Or you know whatever but Pomona College had Valerie Jarrett who of course is the real president of America and And you would do yourself a disservice by not going to the show notes and taking a look at the entire commencement speech because it is so poor. She didn't go to this, she's not even...this is not even her alma mater, this is not her college but people get off on it because you get an honorary doctorate, you have to wear the gown now and you get to crack jokes

2:39:32 But I think it's the honorary doctor. Someone asked me, you're going to give me a degree? Yeah! Hell yeah, I'll come and speak." Yeah, they don't pay him. No, no, no, Pat. Jill of course Abramson was at the Wake Forest giving her speech and I have a little clip of it It's called skipping Jill because I just tried to find something interesting And so I kept hitting the fast-forward button and here's what you get out of this speech I'm impressed that your achievements have attracted So much media attention As well they should. Just so we know, she is the recently fired executive editor? Yeah, executive editor of The New York Times. By the way I didn't notice until i saw this she can't be over 4 foot 10. No idea! Is it on her wiki page?!

2:40:22 No. Someone needs to add it, we need the height on the wiki page! As well they should! ...with pride fought and others in the audience... my sister called me today something you badly want I got the message, he do You know this is remarkably similar to uh the way i listened to her commencement speech but i did actually get a clip from Valerie Jarrett And by the way, here's how it works. Here's how these commencement speeches work someone gives you the inside jokes You know like oh well if you're looking for The toilet bowl on top of the flagpole, you know don't ask Pete! You know it stuff that happened right? Stuff that locals all knows I think is funny So she cannot deliver a line She cannot deliver a line

2:41:10 Most people can't it's really really shit the way she does this commencement speech if you can't deliver a line I always tell people do a lot of Polish music. If you're not funny don't be don't try to be funny And that's exactly what if they're not funny, and you're not funny then You're not funny is when you're trying to be funny and you're not funny ever Don't try to be funny because then people won't like you here is the piece that I found interesting from Valerie Jarrett advisor with her own secret service detailed to the president and the first lady, the true President of United States. But also remember that before I hire anybody, I always check out everything they've been doing online and believe me we have ways at finding out everything you've been doing online That was actually funnier than I intended it to be Yeah hilarious She blows that in two ways One she got her laugh

2:42:07 Right at the initial initiation of the joke, which means you're done. You don't have to now explain the joke because you got that laugh, you idiot! So she adds on to it... She says, you know, she adds because it was written down so she figured she might as well say it I guess? I don't know. Stupid And then she was so proud of herself that she meta'd herself- looked back on what she did All huge amateur blunders No But also for these jokes About spying it's not funny. Not funny It's not funny is like this one I have two words for you predator drones, you know, is this not funny? It's not funny when you're actually spying on by the way Of course we know now that the NSA Is useless

2:42:56 If you got this kid who's posting these videos, I'm gonna go kill women. I hate women! I'm gonna kill the guys that they make love to...I'm gonna kill, kill, kill! Here is my name and I am going to kill! Hello? Where is the NSA saving us from the lone wolves?! This is a huge problem we've talked about it on the show The NSA has a lot of issues because they couldn't stop the Boston Bombers and now this when the guy Way out on it. He's like saying it all over the place and nobody's noticing law enforcement went and visited him multiple times There you have it so I'm no longer worried they have no idea not doing anything Oh, there are there for one reason or whatever this is for one reason of one reason only advertising Advertising yeah, and blackmail but advertising something we know nothing about

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Gitmo Nation, Wiener Schnitzel and Jeff Smith

Donors from "Gitmo Nation," including Jael Ossowski in Vienna and Jeff Smith in Sarasota, are recognized. The hosts discuss the challenges of managing a two-man production team and the importance of listener contributions in maintaining the show's independence.

gitmo nation· vienna· austria· jeff smith· sarasota· donations

2:43:44 I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that! Oh yeah, that'd be fun! Yeah! On No Agenda! Hit the button! We gotta run through this John... I can't Okay then take your time But we're just going to have to go a little long today because again, I apologize everybody. It was my screw up in the last or it was PayPal's problem believe me. I got $150 bucks from South Plainfield New Jersey Let me just say one thing John seriously if were at two-man team We have Eric helping us out once you know for an hour a week it happens You know this is what we do and I think still considering that we're just a performance artists. I think we do pretty good

2:44:31 Jael, Jael Ossowski from Gitmo Nation Wiener Schnitzel also known as Vienna Austria. He said this I have to read this a good day gents is the spinner donation when the spinning instructors dropped World Trade Center Tower 7 in the middle of his normal German warm-up diatribe I knew i had to donate and he wants to call out Aaron Briggs as a douchebag for not donating should have been highlighted. Sir Frank Agenstadt in Victoria, Australia 124 by the way the the uh Sowski was 133 99 from St Petersburg Florida sir frank agent stat at one two four six two in Armadale Australia

2:45:24 James Murray one two three five six which is odd and from Houston Jeff Smith a an alternative Jeff Smith not the Jeff Smith Not the Jeff Smith, but a Jeff Smith And he had he sent in a long note which I've read it's very I know where it is now here It is let me just take a look at this was of mail-in donation. Okay? That's Craig from Omaha We'll get to that maybe and you know we should almost make it a feature of the second donation segment where we try not to really stop too much and read because we just don't have the time, and you know... We want to give as much content as possible. Maybe if

2:46:03 Also, if people start sending in checks which saves us money. Maybe that's the only stuff we should read Yeah, I don't know maybe maybe not hey we ad lib this house thanks for the meeting all right Let's also it was a big thing word done That's the meeting get some doughnuts as well. He just says a lot of things It's very interesting no Just little long But he does want to shout out to his brothers Gene and bill they're great brothers And I wouldn't be me without them since they hit me in the mouth They deserve special mention and everyone else you know who you are If you want your name on this show, then I challenge you to donate. There you go. That was the other Jeff Smith from Sarasota $111 and 11 cents Matthew Sluiter

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Douchebag Calls, Michigan and Sweden Listeners

Several listeners use their donations to "call out" colleagues and friends as "douchebags" for listening to the show without contributing. Donors from Michigan, Sweden, and Brooklyn are acknowledged for their support.

douchebag· michigan· sweden· brooklyn· donations· accountability

2:46:46 Slauter in Holland, Michigan. $100 and one side of assume this Dutch people there I guess in Holland Michigan a Brandon Rowles in Pontiac, Michigan We had a lot of he has a dish bag as a douchebag call-up Yeah He is a douche bag Let me read this for it's been a year since they donated the show I wish I could have met up with John at Detroit and gotten a de duching in person But I listened to Thursday's episode about 18 hours too late that being said I need to call my colleague Bailey on Out as a douchebag. Douchebag! Listening to the show since the Newtown shooting happened and not donating, douchebag. I am Kath in Brisbane. Ian

2:47:28 This is some weird programming that even I can't get this out of you. I don't know what that is. Ian. Six years! Ian, Ian... Ian. Yeah forget about it. A hundred bucks. Rick Olson Ellensburg Washington a hundred bucks James Butcher Dalwallinu in Western Australia 99.99 hello? Yeah yeah I'm sorry It's, uh... I'm looking here. I see the gardener. He's outside your house? Well we can't- We only had the guy come once in a while and we'd forgotten to call him before we left so he came home and we were like one of those abandoned houses Oh by the way my truck got broken into! Forgot to mention that. Completely ripped open the whole dash to get my radio. Oh please Yeah

2:48:27 of the truck. It's just a shitty-ass radio. Well, you gotta be hard up to steal a radio from a beat up truck But they didn't steal it I guess they got interrupted but everything was trashed on the inside The whole dash was ripped off That's a shame. I hate it anyway, so in the garden Mickey said we can't come haven't come by it too And he always always late as a yeah well We'll be done by them But I'd forgotten we had the extra long donation segment and of course now He's on time So but it's okay if it's if you're saying no he doesn't start it yet, but if he does then sorry will do your solutions and services $91.30 no big from God knows where? But just CSS Jardik van der kran

2:49:08 In Jupil, the East Belgium. Czardek van der Kran. Kran! Yeah 73-73 there you go 73-73. 73's everybody yeah James Smith Ottawa Ontario 70 bucks Jonathan Diggle Winnipeg Manitoba 69-69. Swaziland? 69-69 he is in Warsaw Indiana of all places Bob Wassenaar. Very good! In Utrecht, Utrecht 68-38 yeah the only reason we have so many Dutch listeners is because of me. Yeah Samuel Hopkins, originally it was because of you but now they think I'm hilarious. Oh look at the way he pronounces that, he's an idiot. True, that's true. Samuel Hopkins, Kelora Maryland 6666, Nicholas Principe in Raleigh North Carolina

2:50:04 6190 is one of the few people that thanks us for doing this show on the road instead of the people who go, you know, why don't just take some time off? Anyway. David Hassan in Brooklyn New York. Oh I'm sorry! You're welcome. Sorry. 6190... I forgot to hit the mute button Do you have a cough button? Otherwise I'll buy you one. No, I have one. Oh do ya now? Yeah. Andre Adams in Nashville Tennessee 60-20 James Moore in San Pablo California right up the street from me he has been listening since episode 500 and now he's finally decided he's gonna... He's given up and is giving us some help. 60 Anonymous in Albany New York 60 Anonymous in Jarfala Sweden 59 99

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Croatia, Vivid Dreams and Comedy Dreams

A host shares an anecdote about having vivid, creepy dreams of being a soldier while staying in an old armory hotel in Dubrovnik, Croatia. Another host recounts a "comedy dream" involving a malfunctioning coffee machine and a producer from the Tokyo show.

croatia· dubrovnik· dreams· lucille ball· tokyo· anecdote

2:50:56 Raymond Bressler in Arlington, Washington. 59-59 Christopher Gray 55-55 in Abita Springs Louisiana I'm sorry James Murray in Huntington Beach which is a pleasant place California and now we have what did he say? He said Turing and Newman double nickels on the 33 That's not really... It's like missing the point yeah it was funny though Frances Lambert, now we asked for specific double nickels on the dime because it was an easy donation I created. So we have a bunch of them. We had one through about 10. Frances Lambert in Zabok, Croatia this is nice and we love the Croatians. There are times love to place sexy women. I went to Dubrovnik once and stayed in some fancy hotel in an old armory and I had the weirdest dreams ever

2:51:53 Really? Yeah, it's haunted or something. Do you care to share? Well it essentially was a... I was just a soldier and it was very vivid dreaming. I was a soldier fighting God knows what or why never could figure out but I do know that I had a creepy feeling when I woke up But this is also kind of your roots around that area right the Slavic roots of the Dvoraks? I don't think Croatia would qualify Close! It's closer than California Well yeah well its true I had a creepy dream Oh yeah, what? Miss Mickey is so awesome. She's gonna go out and tell the gardener not to mow I had a dream that it was about Sir Mark Then he was in a meeting And I was like Lucille Ball trying to make the coffee machine But the coffee machine was spouting water all over the place I was trying to plug the holes with all my different fingers It was a comedy dream?! It was a comedy dream with Sir Mark from Tokyo! Rarely have comedy dreams

2:52:51 Josh Harbaugh in... Oh, yeah. Go ahead I just gotta tell Mickey it's okay go ahead. Josh Harbaugh 5510 Liberty Township Ohio these are all 5510s James Chesney Brownston Michigan Sir Daniel Hutner in Mountain Ranch California Ben Blessing and Surrey Hills New South Wales Christopher O'Brien Brighton Massachusetts Nuts Dame Beth Berosen in Tucson Arizona Nicholas Nilson Gislav, Gislav Sweden. Double nickels on the dime. Julie Lustig in Livonia Michigan a lot of Michigonians thank you Michigan John Owen in Mesa Arizona another Arizonan Steven Yarosh and Wakefield Massachusetts nuts James French in Pike Road Alabama Mark Megapio in Cerritos California and finally Andy Benz in St Louis Missouri Charles Hickman in Oklahoma City

CHAPTER 51 / 57 Discussion

Heritage Turkeys, Craig Dennison and Seven Years Unemployed

A couple in Michigan is noted for raising heritage turkeys and eggs, creating a communal interest among meetup attendees. Craig Dennison of Omaha is highlighted for donating from his first paycheck after being unemployed for seven years.

heritage turkeys· michigan· omaha· nebraska· unemployment· donations

2:53:48 Then we go on to David, sorry Donald. Hello Donald. Divine in Clermont Florida $55. Jake Kenyon 53-53 in Morayfield Queensland I probably didn't pronounce that correctly. Sean DeSantis in Fort Pierce Florida 53 30 and then the rest of these are 50 dollar donors including Go Gwen in Westminster, Massachusetts. Macek Stolowski... Always on with $50 dollars always. He's commonly in Calgary Alberta where all the money is James Wolgamuth in Everett Washington Jason Daniels Dallas Texas T Abel in Burgfield Berkshire

2:54:36 UK, Eric Viet in Dublin California. Robert Ryan Byrne Texas I'm guessing that's how you pronounce it Roger Grigsby Santa Cruz California Martin Van Galen Last Martijn van Galen last exactly from Beneden Lewin I saw it even close. Sebastian Alscher in Frankfurt, Deutschland. Aaron and Eric Zempel in Boondocks, Michigan. They're the ones...that's the couple where he's working in the city. She is out at the house outside of town on a big farm where they grow eggs and heritage

2:55:21 They grow eggs? Yeah, they grow eggs. Heritage, uh, Roos Heritage, uh... It's cool! Turkeys How do you grow eggs?! And she's got goats Do tur-do turkeys lay eggs? Yeah of course they do but they're turkey tasting I don't know what turkey eggs taste like I've never been offered a turkey egg Well Yeah, they obviously have to. Must taste like poop. Whatever the case is there's a great couple and in the meetup everyone got all jacked up about getting a heritage turkey but she's already sold out for this year but next year it's going to be a good group that forms. Very communal. Good old David Trotsky in Romeoville Illinois who had trouble when he was raised as a kid with the name Trotsky I don't see why Benjamin Smith in Oakland California

2:56:07 which I can wave to him from here, Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier California and finally Craig Dennison in Omaha Nebraska. And Craig sent a long note in that's handwritten and he says...I have to read this.. This donation comes from my very first paycheck so you just finally got paid in seven years! Wow how old do you think he is? Probably I'm guessing he's probably in his 30s late 30. So, he's been unemployed for seven years? That's what it says crap Well isn't much value for value that I can get from the ship but compared to what I get from the show I've been listening from The beginning I hope that it shows that I appreciate the work that you do That you guys put into this show. I don't ask for a de-douching nor I wish

2:56:50 to pressure other listeners to donate. We all contribute in our own ways, even if it's merely bringing up a point from the show with others." Absolutely true! I'm giving him a de-douching no matter what he deserves that and i'm gonna give him a karma as well. You've been dedouched you've got karma. Why not? Seven years first thing he does is contributes to the show wow yeah I'm gonna keep my notes and some stuff showed up at the house here, but that'll keep for Thursday. It's not that time-sensitive but it's a really cool stuff to talk about. We got Sir Mark Tanner who you just donated but he sent a separate note He said could I possibly get an F Cancer Karma for myself fighting the battle on Every Bit Helps? These are not good notes

CHAPTER 52 / 57 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Ready Kilowatt and Sir Streggalicious

John Grumling and John Stregg are officially knighted as Sir Ready Kilowatt and Sir Streggalicious for their $1,000 contributions. The hosts also discuss the use of noise gates in their recording setup and thank their local mail carrier for his reliable service.

knighthood· john grumling· john stregg· nsa· noise gates· mailman

2:57:41 I don't like hearing these things. No, no not especially from our regulars but for our knights of course. You've got karma Absolutely Alright That was very long of course because it was a double to double and some and some people And this is it is kind of cute, and I highly appreciated saying oh. I got a karma I got a credit so but but it was unwarranted So I'm donating again yeah We've seen that from the beginning as you're always yet is very cute, so I think that probably You start thanking people randomly if you want to executive producership probably Thursday will be a good show. Yes Everyone goes out as guys are rolling in dough fuck em all right slash

2:58:36 And we kick it off with Sir Gene Neftulia who celebrates on the 26th, that'll be tomorrow Memorial Day and of course he is now the Earl of Texas. Anonymous says happy birthday to G Flex from The People's Regulator & Family and Jake Kenyon congratulates his dad Jeff 53 is what he turned on the 20th May. Happy Birthday from all your buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! Then we have the titles of course, Sir Gene F. Tulliov becomes Earl of Texas, Sir Nate Wilson now a baronet and we have two knightings to do so I'd like to grab the swords you can hear the NSA gardeners here yeah okay there we go i can't hear it don't worry

2:59:22 John Grumling, step forward along with John Strage-Stregg. Both of you have supported the best podcast in the universe for the amount of $1,000 or more and therefore I proudly pronounce thee Knights of the Noah Jenner Round Table and I crown thee Sir Ready Kilowatts and Sir Streggalicious! For you gentlemen hookers and blow Hot pants and booze, red boys and chardonnay. Opium in warm orange juice, wenches and beer, Rubin S. woman in rose, bong hits of bourbon, sparkling cider escorts or just plain old mutton and mead! And go to noageneration.com slash rings and pick up your well-deserved night ring You sure you can't hear? I can hear it...I can hear it in the background No See the thing with uh... I hear nothing Here's a little uh Again thank you to everyone who donated also below the $50 level

3:00:13 Here's a little trick about the best podcast in the universe We use noise gates for both of the Skype and for my microphone because neither of us really have a real studio And if it was just, if it was open all the time you'd hear all this background noise. You hear stuff driving by and that's very distracting and of course this is a professional way to solve that with the noise gate but when you have loud noises like a leaf blower or lawnmower... Yeah, it assumes its real. It kind of ruins the idea yeah But uh... I don't hear it! No well he's now in the... Sorry Miss Mickey was out there like giving him shit. I said, no don't worry about it

3:00:49 Don't worry of these guys and also I want to thank Armando the mailman a male carrier postal carrier once again Just takes care of bill engineer postal. Yes Paper communications engineer he made sure that our mail was withheld and not yeah, no That's a good thing Yeah And I don't but he knows like I don't have to send you'll call the post office it just happens as beautiful And you know the mailman knows everything that's going on in the neighborhood. They have... they know everything So I ran into this clip and i'm wondering if you know about it, about the McDonalds protests and all the people are on strike? Talk about something has been at least I didn't see in the local news! Maybe you did. I happen to know about it because Miss Mickey and I were contacted by the Ronald McDonald House charity

CHAPTER 53 / 57 Discussion

McDonald's, Minimum Wage Protests and Media Suppression

Protests at McDonald's headquarters regarding a $15 minimum wage are discussed as an example of a story suppressed by mainstream media due to the company's status as a major advertiser. The hosts note that fast-food jobs are no longer just "stepping stone" positions for many workers.

mcdonald's· minimum wage· protests· headquarters· advertising· suppression

3:01:42 here in Austin, which has very little to do with Ronald McDonald anymore. But the first thing was I'm like oh but what you know...I had to look into it, You Know Me! There's very little involvement and then you run across all this, yeah i got filter set up and then you run across all this McDonald stuff Yeah there's stuff going on with them for sure This is- just play this clip but I'm gonna say this is a good example of why our show is a little different than the mainstream media. This is suppressed And we're going to finish off with a look at McDonald's. Shareholders have approved a multi-million dollar pay package for chief executive Don Thompson, this despite strikes and protests that forced the fast food giant to temporarily close its headquarters this week. Workers are demanding that their minimum wage be doubled to about $15 an hour. Thompson told investors that he respected the protesters but insisted that McDonald's does pay competitive wages and offers real career paths

3:02:33 Those protests have been sweeping through McDonald's, not just in the United States but around the world. Workers at that chain clearly very frustrated at their working conditions and I think we'll be hearing more from them. Yeah, because all this is like yeah. Well what's happened of course is people can't get out of McDonald's I mean and McDonald's was always one of those stepping stone jobs where you'd go to work for a while so you take a McDonald's job until you get something good and then he quit and go to someplace else that was always the idea and that's how fast food chains kind of developed knowing that they could get all these cheap employees for just working for little bit because it's not like a job at to be highly trained

3:03:15 And that's not working out because people can't find work. And so then now, you know, McDonalds has got to pay a real wage so they can live without starving to death because it was just pin money essentially. But this is not being reported on at all! It's a scandal And you're surprised by this so-called scandal? No, but it's actually a great example of it. And McDonalds being a major multi billion dollar advertiser that they're not gonna... You're never going to hear about this story now I was listening to C-SPAN and the guy who wrote This Town which I believe you read Yeah

CHAPTER 54 / 57 Discussion

This Town, Tim Russert Funeral and Washington Elite

Mark Leibovich's book "This Town" is discussed, specifically the opening scene at Tim Russert's funeral where Washington elites were seen networking and exchanging business cards. The hosts critique the "self-celebration" of the political and media class in D.C.

mark leibovich· this town· tim russert· washington dc· clintons· obamas

3:03:53 Yes, I forget his name. The New York Times journalist who wrote... Right he had a little thing He apparently got that he was at a book fair You didn't read this because it's good It's a good read it's a fun book to read and he says it's a how-to book if you look at it objectively Yeah If you basically open mouth insert penis and you can work in Washington So he, this is the history of where he got the idea to do the book. He discusses it I don't know if it's discussed in the book but he was at that Tim Russert funeral yeah thats were the Clinton showed up Yeah, and here's what he has to say about it. It was a very interesting little... That is actually the opening of the book. He gets to express it. ...in 2008 in June at the Kennedy Center and was just watching this thing degenerate into a cocktail party and just watching all of the mafia families—the Clintons, the Obamas, the McCains, the Bushes, the media, the lobbyists, the Democrats, Republicans everyone sort of coming in to pay respects but ultimately watching

3:04:53 from the aisles of the Kennedy Center, people throwing business cards around. People trying to book the Clintons on their MSNBC shows that night. People angling for the next big job. It became a very very self-conscious spectacle and at that moment I knew we had reached a tipping point in Washington the kind of maybe self-regard, self celebration that has grown up here versus what was actually a very solemn ceremony for a beloved newsman. And from that point on I started taking notes and doing a bunch of interviews and scaring a lot of people

3:05:34 Anyway, that's me goes on do you I have a question Did you find Tim rusher to be such an awesome? Newsman no. I didn't either yeah, he was okay But not like a Pio it'd be like oh He was the best he asked the questions people were afraid of him really is definitely better than chip Yeah, or the other guy then the old man he's just about it, but he's out of touch yeah A lot of interesting little screwball stories. This is a shorty here I want to play, this is a little suburb of the Bay Area it's actually big suburbs consolidation with bunch of little towns and this is the future of the United States as far as I'm concerned. This is the Fremont Police State struggle

CHAPTER 55 / 57 Discussion

Fremont Police State, Hillary Clinton and Internships

The Fremont Police Department is seeking approval for a high-tech surveillance system including license plate readers. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton's speech at the Clinton Global Initiative regarding corporate internships is criticized for its lack of emotion and "nervous" laughter.

fremont· surveillance· license plate readers· hillary clinton· cgi· internships

3:06:22 Fremont police want to go high-tech to help fight crime. Next month the department will ask the City Council to approve community based surveillance cameras and license plate readers Police want as many as a dozen installed at key entry and exit points along the city's borders Residents can comment on the project through the city's website Yeah, of course it is I This is an old speech. No, this is new! It's a fairly new speech. She's done a lot of speeches since the... Yeah I know but this is the only one that I have on tape. But wait, hold you're confusing me now why do you say brain damage when we know she had a facelift? Okay well brain damage is just another theory

3:07:15 Whatever the case I'm mistaken with the, with the...I don't know what happened. Hillary on internships now she has a this is she's talking this is bullshit This is her speech by the way hers public speaking really is deteriorated She still talks with one word at a time But it's a little more run together and she's lost all emotion. I think she's on some drug or something In fact, you skipped this clip. No I want to hear it! No no no. First play the other clip which is Hillary blabbering and tell me what she says that i could go back to what i had been doing but unfortunately it was going back to where we had been in some respects 30 40 years ago rather than picking up the pace of where we had moved towards.

3:08:09 struck by how difficult it was for so many children to be successful in school despite all the education reform that we have done and experimented with over a very long time now. I need some context, but this is called losing the plot. I mean it does happen sometimes you're an interview situation... This is a speech! This is a speech? Yes! But resist we much We must and we will much. No, this is a speech. This is not an interview. It's got no emotion you can play the other part of the speech is no emotion she's flat as a pancake And in this case you have to listen to this near the end She does one of those inappropriate nervous laughs In the middle of the sentence which I thought was creepy Most of the young people who complete this program go on to become full-time GAP employees

3:09:05 Or consider Corning, a glass manufacturer headquartered in upstate New York. Famous for supplying the scratch-resistant Gorilla Glass for the iPhone. Corning knows that to stay on the cutting edge they need a steady pipeline of high skill talent so they've invested in internships that help students explore careers and science technology engineering and mathematics the so called STEM fields And their providing on-the job apprenticeships In their factories So at the Clinton Global Initiatives annual CGI America conference in Denver next month, we're assembling a network of businesses like Gap and Corning willing to step up expanding hiring training mentoring hopefully to create a virtuous ripple throughout the economy. Hoping to create... she laughs right into it after she says hoping Well you know it happens maybe just had a bad day

3:10:03 I don't know, this whole thing is nonsense. The internships and all the rest of it... When I was a kid and there was a steel mill and you wanted to work in the steel mill they trained you! They didn't expect you come out like, oh I'm a steel mill expert So this isn't nothing not a new idea corning yeah they're hiring people then training Yeah duh how many people know how to work in a glass manufacturing facility? Nobody Anyway, I got one more clip and you can clip out. I know you're getting tired." Um...I'm okay! You know what? First of all, I really enjoy talking to you Second of all- I do! This makes my marriage work And my wife will concur And I have a feeling yours might too Because y'know, your not constantly saying, Ah look at this bullcrap! I can't believe this shit

CHAPTER 56 / 57 Discussion

iTunes Frustrations, Quercetin and Podcast Apps

The hosts discuss the difficulty of using iTunes and the official Apple podcast app, which they believe hinders their market penetration. They recommend alternatives like BitTorrent Sync and discuss the health benefits of Quercetin for various conditions.

itunes· quercetin· podcast apps· bittorrent sync· android· nexus 7

3:10:55 You know, we actually have nice... She's always doing that because she doesn't listen to our show anymore. Why doesn't she listen? And I think like she brought something up last night at dinner. She's going on rattling off about something Wait a minute are you up there or is she down there? Everyone is down here Oh okay cool So uh..she's rambling about something blah blah blah This is what we talked about this in the show month ago! You should listen to the show See we've already deconstructed the crap out of this thing you noticed and also I got a really nice note from her She said hey, you know Eric told me via John that you know you mentioned This what's the stuff that I take for my

3:11:36 Some crazy stuff you've taken in. She looked it up, I said you should try this because it had something to do...I was looking it up I guess and it does something about arthritis and rosacea a bunch of other things. And for some reason I've completely blanked on the name now. You know she lost the bomb. Anyway what the hell is that stuff called? You'll think of it later but anyway she sends me a note and I'm like wow! You know you should listen to this show because sometimes we We have these gems, you know there's all kinds of stuff. Oh yeah that shows valuable But why is it do you think? Is she just tired of it? You know what I really think? I don't think she can get her iPod to work right

3:12:16 She won't automatically download and then when she tries to do it manually because iTunes is such a piece of crap, I think she just gave up on the effort. Maybe you can just have someone install...I mean we have so many apps and the app is really handy because you click on the app and there's all that stuff for ya. Yeah but I think its frustration with iTunes to be honest about it Because when I give her discs, she'll listen to them in the car while driving around and she's fine with that but she can't get this thing downloaded. Do you mind if I intervene because there is an embarrassment factor here?

3:12:54 And I understand it. You know, I'm sure she's embarrassed that she can't get it to work Do you mind if I just reach out to her and see if I can... Quercetin! That's what it was. Quercetin Yeah, Quercetin Which I use for everything John says you can't get a high-five No no no no, but I'll play it cool But maybe because Mimi is really into this stuff You know, she has opinions and you know she used to send me notes from time to time and all that's gone. I think it was iTunes...I think we probably could be doing much better in terms of market penetration for listeners if iTunes wasn't such a piece of crap Yeah let's have a meeting about that No Of course uh in every show notes on the front page

3:13:38 You can find it at archive.noagendanotes.com or nashownotes.com, or noagendershow.com is really the easiest all the links are there I got to work on that too this is part of my mission for the coming few weeks as we're not traveling and work a bit on just the links of stuff that's pointing other things There's always a list of places you can get it. You can get it through BitTorrent Sync, which is very popular It's still beta but that in my opinion the future of media distribution There are regular BitTorrents which I think through BitTorrent Love or whatever still works Of course there's the podcast feed where you can direct download and play right there There are lots of ways to get it

3:14:22 But I will work a little bit on...I think the apps are good for people like Mimi. Because when you have, the podcast app is not great! When Apple got that and people were used to getting it on iTunes and then shifted the podcast app but had problems in the beginning, you lose a lot of... Yeah, I think that's when it began for her. That makes sense. You know? You lose so many people just in that transition And, you know... even for me. I'm trying to load stuff up on this Android tablet which i'm still using and im still impressed with it certainly the battery life the Nexus 7 I think Right But now using Dog Catcher Wow! What a piece of crap Yeah It's really complicated yeah It's not very simple There are all kinds of buttons and pfff wow just make it work

CHAPTER 57 / 57 Discussion

Calle 24, Latino Cultural District and Outro

The Mission District in San Francisco has designated 24th Street as the "Calle 24 Latino Cultural District" to preserve its heritage against gentrification. The show concludes with the hosts signing off from Austin and Silicon Valley, with a final humorous clip of Joe Biden.

calle 24· san francisco· mission district· gentrification· latino culture· outro

3:15:14 Yeah, yeah. Well those days are over whereas I just use the bit torrent sync app on Android or on the iPod touch and it just synchronizes It just works you can make it download in the background and it works all right last clip give me out boy Well, this is a very interesting clip. It's not a tempo upbeat clip well actually I do have enough because I can push this off till Thursday this other clip Give me an upbeat Give me a beat. The Mission District in San Francisco's got issues with all the gentrification and all the Googlers moving in and screwing up people, so we've got a new name We're gonna rebuild the Mission District with some nice Spanish terms And just play Mission District in San Francisco. ...of the mission are being celebrated by many 24th Street considered the heart of the Latino culture has a new designation ABC 7 News reporter Leanne Melendez takes us to Calle Venticuatro

3:16:07 Perhaps it's the smell of the freshly baked Mexican pastries or the colorful murals that tell you, you have arrived in the mission. The Carnaval celebration has long been a tradition here Just like the improvised street music. 24th Street has been the cradle of the Latino art movement in San Francisco, but in recent years gentrification has threatened to displace people and businesses that have contributed to its cultural significance That's why the city decided it was time to begin talking about preserving the mission. The resolution to designate it the calle 24 Latino cultural district was led by supervisor David Campos. How do I pronounce that? Well, you don't have to play anymore. Play this second clip which is got nailed. You just cut it out of there. So this how you pronounce it now. Hold on pay attention everybody! The resolution to designated the calle 24 Latino Cultural District

3:17:07 This is what you get when you have a native speaker. You know, hell let me try this. I want to try this we should be able to do this. The resolution designated the calle 24 Latino cultural district. Nah, nah. Then I have to get in the cab and ask for that district? Well just asked for 24th street and the mission. Hell with his name! It hasn't happened in awhile but... If he actually used that name in a cab the guy would go what?! What!? I think uh I think you deserve it today You deserve it. You deserve it, that was good At the very cusp of the show The very ending of the show Yeah I barely snuck in Good work Very funny Alright well super long show There you go It happens but we had a lot to catch up on We want to make sure you get the value you deserve And then of course we had the long donation segments Don't worry That probably won't happen Thursday

3:18:10 But we will be here once again bringing you a brand new show and I think is that uh, is it a new month? Yeah. Maybe no not yet Are you doing twit know nothing they're on vacation because the holiday weekend They don't they're like us really did what do they do run out of work? It just seems to me unlikely or maybe there's gotta I don't know have no idea strange All right, I like working I enjoy We will see what happens, but there's tons afoot and ahead I'm sure. Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the Dronestar State in Austin Texas In the morning everybody! I am Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I've come back To the main abode...I'm John C. Dvorak We will talk again on Thursday right here On NO Agenda Adios mofos

3:19:09 But resist we much, we must and we will much about that be committed. That's why I'm moving to Austin. I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen.