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00:02 Hit it. In full acceptance of the voices in my head back in the Travis Heights hideout in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I'm casually reading arts and leisure in the New York Times I'm John C. Dvorak Oh man, okay, I'm completely nasal today

00:40 No, yeah, no I believe me. I am well to you. Yeah, no I'd say we came to said anything no one would have noticed Oh, no, you still sound like that other Adam Sounds like a recipe for success to me. It sounds so much like him You have no idea. That's not true. Not at all. I don't sound like him at all That's unfair actually you're saying these things oh No, so we came back last night, big delay on the flight. Oh great. I hate it when this happens. And this is so typical, you get a scheduled airline like American Airlines, which we flew.

01:20 Those are the ones that always wind up being late because you know they have something happen in in the morning and then it all you know starts to stack up whereas if you can just take a You know a jet blue or a southwest or one of these things just goes back and forth back and forth all day It's there's never really a problem with those Right, it's true So we know something happens in Chicago at yeah, one o'clock in the afternoon and then It just cascades over the whole country and everything's late. Yeah, and then of course the the flight attendants are all pissy Because you know because even though the flight crew changes the flight attendants are the same for that whole day They started 8 in the morning, and then you know they're yeah now. They have to work essentially work overtime. Yeah, they don't get paid I'm sure that maybe they do, but they don't like it No, let's say so it took me it took quite a lot of effort to get our flight attendant kind of to be nice him Him yeah, oh yeah, those guys yeah, those guys get a little uh I threw some gay on and it wouldn't have worked out I

02:19 Did you bat your eyes? No, but I let him know I was part-time member of the Academy and everything works out. I'm coming out of Hollywood for a reason. Okay, so we're coming out of Hollywood and we only had a day and a half since we last did the show and what a douchebag town. So of course the Emmys are... Are they tonight? The Emmys are they Monday night? Tonight I think, right? Oh, they could be tonight. Yeah, thanks for reminding me. I think they're tonight. I do have a hot hot news next Sunday night or is it I think maybe Saturday night which would be good cuz pre-show. Uh-huh. Miss World! Yay! It's the season. When it rains it pours. Miss World. Okay. So it's Emmys and all the hotels are all filled up with with hospitality suites.

03:15 with goodie bags. Oh, this is this what a scam this is. Yeah. So I had a board meeting over at Mevio and they had you know, they had this spot now in the W Hotel. So we had a board meeting in the W Hotel, right on the same floor where they had one of these hospitality suites. Oh, And it's just and you just see one celebrity and all B and C's I'll point out. One after another with their stylist or their handler or whatever. Oh yeah, the B's and C's are the worst because they have this bogus entourage they can't afford. But the stuff they get is like, you know, because the restroom where you had to go kind of through the security to get into the restroom, you know, the security for the guests, for the hospitality suites. Oh my goodness.

04:01 It's like there's wristwatches, shoes, you know, complete bags. I mean anything you want. It's just it's a bonanza for these people. And I went, hey, I'm Adam Curry. And they went, Yeah? So what? I want to watch. Where's your red ribbon? Exactly, where's your wristband? Where's your green ribbon? What ribbon do you have? I don't see any ribbons on you. Where's your wristband, slave? Where's your wristband so we can give you gadget bag number six? But even the hotel we were in,

04:37 Which has a little pool kind of in the in a courtyard all of a sudden you were out by the pool We're just hanging on after the show on on Thursday and one of my friends was coming over who was from Holland and he's been there for a couple weeks now with like I don't know DJ. Do you know DJ tricky DJ? Chucky do you know any of these guys DJ poet? Yeah, there's a lot of these. Yeah, yeah, well by the way these DJs, they're like $75,000 for an hour of whatever they do. Some of these DJs get paid lots of money. Oh my goodness. It doesn't seem that difficult to me, but okay. Well, so he comes over and we're hanging by the pool and all of a sudden

05:19 The staff just starts cleaning up chairs around us. How about this for an idea? You're an old DJ from the golden days. Why don't you throw your name in the hat and be this celebrity guest DJ for 70 grand at one of these shindigs in Hollywood. You get to hobnob with the upper class elites. You know, I could actually do it. I know you could. I'm stunned that you haven't thought of this. No, no, I've thought of it, but then I'm like, ugh, really? You don't start until like one in the morning. And then you gotta have a patter. Well, no, it's not even a patter. You just gotta, I mean, you can literally

05:55 Pre-mix stuff and then just pretend like you're doing all this crazy stuff on the wheels of steel I don't think that's ever been done. No, but you can do that and but the thing that but the problem is it's always gonna be like a Saturday night and then the show will suck so I'd rather that you know Seriously, I'd rather do this and be poor I'm just saying we did you know that you would be doing this on this party night after the Emmys that which is Sunday night I could and there would be a whole bunch of 40 year olds who would be like yeah So what you want to do is get this huge wig so as long as you don't die I won't do it, but if you kick the bucket, I'm telling you you should still do the Sunday night gig

06:39 With a huge wig you gotta wear a big wig really big poofy hair Total outrageous wig I'm writing this down. This is not a bad idea actually you know this could supplement my income a little bit I don't think I can get the 75 gram, but I can certainly get you know you can get 25 for sure 2500 25 you get 25 grand 25 hundred and 25 grand for doing a DJ set Absolutely, but you got to use the wig All right, let's get down to some real business and then you won't be complaining so much I'm not gonna do it a couple times a year. I mean, it's not like you're gonna be making a living Anyway, what are you talking about? That's that's like half a yearly nut right there. Yeah. Well, I know but I'm just saying it's not like you're going crazy I wanted to point out that it was no more than two and a half weeks ago and

07:36 that on this very program sometimes known as I said our producers in Kenya are raising flags and are saying something's going on, there's something up with Kenya, there's weirdness happening, the International Criminal Court is involved and then in succession within two and a half weeks they discover this huge underground water supply which basically saves the region and then this mall massacre in Nairobi

08:14 And the producers of this program are starting to freak me out a little bit. Well, they're everywhere. Here's a network. It's a network. Yes. It's a good network. It's a network for people who want to keep up with things. Yes. Hello. Police scrambled for cover as gunshots rang out at an upmarket shopping mall in Nairobi. Inside, the mall popular with Westerners was under siege. Witnesses said a group of men armed with automatic weapons stormed the shopping center and shouted that anybody who was a Muslim could leave. They then started spraying gunfire and lobbing grenades into crowds.

08:54 These graphic pictures of the aftermath show elderly people, women and children among the dead. Mall worker Sujar Singh said police were no match for the gunmen. I saw a guy by the main entrance. I think he was shot. I went to help him. This guy shot at me. He missed me. Terrified shoppers took cover for hours trying to make their escape any way they could, even crawling through air vents. The US State Department said American citizens were among the wounded and condemned the attack as a senseless act of violence. As people sprinted out of the shopping center, an emergency cruise tended to wounded survivors. Kenyan soldiers rushed in to flush out the militants, but for the dozens dead,

09:38 and more than 150 wounded. It's already too late. There's a couple of things going on with this particular shooting. First let me give you an email that came in late last or early this morning from producer Vin who's on the ground there. He says, I'm just going to paraphrase, he's been sending a lot of reports, the Kenyan government has been underreporting the casualties and this now this morning turns out to be true as these terrorists as we are about to find out are still in the mall holding people hostage. He says there's been a warning for expats to avoid this mall for over two years. Prime target he says Israeli owned, frequented by affluent Kenyans and expats

10:29 He's even been there himself a couple of times. He says it was a very nice mall. Al-Shabaab now is taking credit for it on Twitter. This is the level we've come to. Al-Shabaab claims credit for killing people on Twitter. The Al-Qaeda linked Somali militant group Al-Shabaab has claimed responsibility for the massacre. The group said it repeatedly warned Kenya to pull back its troops out of Somalia or face severe consequences. And Jim, tonight they warned more attacks. are on the way. So you know that there's going to be all kinds of help that has to be sent there and particularly if you know we have an issue with Somalia which you know that's kind of an interesting place and we've just had all of this Somali aid and we're trying to help people out sending troops in there and then by coincidence this is very bothersome if you see the pictures and hear the story of New York Times photographer

11:41 Tyler Hicks, who not only just happened to be in the neighborhood, yeah by coincidence, but he went in while this was taking place. I get more chilling details for you on that terror attack at a mall in Kenya. Earlier today I talked to a New York Times photojournalist who witnessed that carnage. Yeah his name is Tyler Hicks and actually he went into the mall after the shooting as people were filing out. He started there taking pictures of the scene. Listen to this conversation. I happened to be close by to Westgate Mall when the violence broke out yesterday. And as I approached the mall, I could see lots of people running away. And as I got closer, it was clear that there were people who had been shot. I saw people who had been shot in the stomach and the leg. Dozens of injuries streaming out among just terrified civilians.

12:37 uh... my i'd like to continue to uh... move along that carefully along the front of the ball where um... i'd like to talk three uh... man who'd been killed just at the front entrance of the mall uh... one of them still inside the car that he'd been uh... driving and um... it's a continued to proceed up a into an upper parking garage where i uh... again some more people streaming out there the police in the army who were working there um... what work where it would definitely trying to get people evacuated out of the building uh... i thought it was an opportunity to get inside

13:13 to go against the flow of the people and into the mall and to see what was going on inside. I don't know if you've seen these pictures that he's taken but it's very, I mean these are award-winning photographs as he was conveniently, just coincidentally in the neighborhood and then went right past the police and the army upstream past the people coming out into the building as this is taking place. Quite an amazing story I think. Yeah, it's peculiar. Now if this... It definitely has a bunch of... most of the photos, in fact I'm looking at today's New York Times which has one of his pictures on the front page. Most of the photos are online. The paper itself didn't run that many of them, which I found peculiar too. I think it was CBS or one of the networks that had most of them. Yeah, I know, it's weird. Here's something that Vin told me that is actually... this is a handy tip and you might want to write this one down.

14:10 This is, you know, at No Agenda we give you all kinds of tips. For instance, if you just say you can't raise your arms, you don't have to go through the slave scanner. I might want to point out that worked again like a charm. Here's a handy tip. If Al-Shabaab is going to kill you in a shopping mall, they may ask you if you know who the Prophet Muhammad's mother is. Apparently, they let Muslims go. They did not shoot any Muslims in the mall. And this is kind of like the second world war where the Yanks would try and catch undercover Nazis. Right, by asking if they knew the Yankee score. Or who won the World Series. Right, which of course you'd be shot in the head. I'd be like, Boston Red Sox?

14:59 So I didn't say that Boston Patriots. Yeah, so here is here's the here's the tip Somewhere asked the name of the Prophet Muhammad's mother if they did not know the answer if the answer is Beverly Close If they did not know the answer they were shot in the head. The answer is Amina Amina, of course, am I n a H in case you need to spell it? They're gonna look at me go like He's no Muslim Now simultaneously and this is kind of where Where some what our other producer who was unnamed was telling me about the Kenyan deputy president was in the Hague He's been at this international criminal court trial

15:52 under suspicion of I think it's like I know killing some people in 2007 and He said hey, you know I'm I'll be back for this trial, but I got to go because there's stuff going on in the country and they said okay So the trial has been adjourned. Yeah, and and the guy is just like here it is lawyers for Deputy President William Ruto asked judges to adjourn his International Criminal Court trial to allow him to return home to deal with an armed attack on a Nairobi shopping mall because he needs it yeah, and it's like okay, I can see where that would be related as Predicted by our very own producers. So there's a lot of things going on here. You have to question You have to question al-qaeda in general

16:48 You know, and this doesn't seem like a typical Al-Qaeda attack where they usually like to blow things up or... Right. Simultaneously, usually two or three places at the same time. Right. So now they have hostages and they're in and now there's also Israeli advisors are on the scene. So this is, there's forces behind this that are, that clearly are not being brought to the foreground. Although of course, if you listen to the narrative now on CNN on their fantastic New Day morning show, it's obvious what's going to be happening here in the United States. You can probably just cross it right off the Red Book, John. But is there any practical way, you know, to keep terrorists out of a mall at the whole point?

17:31 is open access for customers. Come on in and spend some time with us. What practically can you do? Yes, Chrissy, but actually this is a professor by the way who who is an expert in homeland security malls have Limited accesses they may have several of them, but they're not infinite the way a downtown area is therefore access control can be alert there can be the sense of watching people coming in who uh... don't fit the profile of usual customers and then taking uh... response you don't look like a shopper come over here i'll tase you but uh... the thing to remember is that as a result of this these horrific issues the these horrific pictures that uh... the new york times photographer is produced it's going to create some pressure

18:29 mall security in this country as well to make sure that there are evacuation procedures that have been tested that there are lockdown procedures is coordination with police and other special Yes resources to keep the places safe. I just love how we're using it to train the slaves here. This is fantastic. We'll have a couple of events. Yeah, we'll have lockdown, we'll have scanners, we'll have... The funny thing is is that today the Oakland A's are playing the Minnesota Twins. I didn't get a clip. I was thinking about it but I didn't know you're gonna go in this direction. I should have. And this will be the first day at the baseball stadium, the O.co Park,

19:11 also known as Alameda County Coliseum, that they are going to institute a full security ring around the park. Security ring, no less. With scanners and bank checks and magnetometers and the whole thing. And here's my question, because they warned everybody they're going to do that sometime this year. Yeah. And then they're going to continue to do it. And my question is, why? When's the last time somebody had a shootout in a baseball park? I mean, what indication is there? Do they know something we don't know?

19:50 I mean, what's the deal? This is bullcrap. Just another way to sell more machines. Yeah, yeah. And inconvenience the public. Yes. Of course we have somebody listening saying, well the public was highly inconvenienced at the mall in Kenya. Yeah now so then you know we don't know enough it is very early on in this and of course The great thing is that we have all of these producers who were on the scene who already predicted this was going to happen Yeah, we please don't go tweeting. You know no agenda nailed it again. Yeah, Nairobi hashtag dead now. Don't do that because People are like Like we're cheerleaders

20:32 Get the biggest kick out of the guys who root So this is this is not what you want to do But it said it's obvious that we'll be able to dig in it should go sadly No agenda was right again. Yeah, and some people do that some people do that. That's better I But anyway, we'll certainly be bringing you more information as it comes in because we have boots on the ground and that's going to be a hell of a lot better probably than what you get. What I'm amazed at is when you see these pictures

21:16 You know, we've had shootings in multiple places, multiple mass shootings. There's never a New York Times journalist around to get some awesome shots that are published everywhere. I mean, this is some amazing stuff he's got. People shot up and bleeding and just gory. Yeah, we didn't see that with any of our recent events. Yeah, I mean, Newtown, we saw nothing. We saw the explosions in Boston, but that's about it. Yeah, the New York Times reporter just happens to be there. Well, his beat is Africa. This is the guy who was also in Libya and who... He probably shops a lot. This is the guy... He may be legit, he may be just the guy who likes to shop. No, he was also the guy who was in Libya and remember the journalist who died of, I think an asthma attack or something, and he dragged him across the border? That's this guy. Right, that's that guy. That's Tyler Hicks.

22:09 Yeah, well Hicks may get it maybe tipped off. It's possible. It's very possible. And you know, you hang around the mall there in... But you know, if your beat is Africa, you know, it's one thing to be like Northern Africa, like Libya, but then it's like, oh yeah, and I'm also, I happen to be in Nairobi. I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's like... Well, that's a hell of a beat, because that's a hell hole. Yeah, it's also, it's quite a commute. We passed through Nairobi once on a flight to South Africa. The family. Oh, I didn't know you'd ever been there. Yeah, and so we still, but it was only a stopover and we, everyone got robbed.

22:47 And so in the airport and you too you got robbed the whole actually I had a bunch of this is back in the way Did you have buzzkill jr. On on the leash? No, no, he's too old for that. Okay? Wait, dude, you're never too old for the leash. Okay? Well in your case so We go into the airport lounge to wait for your flight to take off and a bunch of the Nairobi police and soldiers came in and started robbing people. And you really can't have any much resort, you know, and they'd find people that were, I don't know, they never picked us out. So we, but they were robbing people. They would take, go up to a guy and they did point a gun at him and take his money. Wow. And okay. All right. And then the next guy, the next guy and, uh, what's the prophet Muhammad's mom's name? It wasn't that way. It was just a straight up robbery. They didn't have, they didn't play any games. Okay.

23:44 So then everyone went back, you know, the people bitching and moaning at the airplane, at the airport. They could do nothing about it. And then anything that was left inside the plane was stolen. Wow. So, and then the guys would say, oh, you gotta take everything with you. And it was a little, and then funny enough, so I'm, this is when I'm working at Tech TV, and there was one of my guests. Really? With Kevin Rose and Leo Laporte? Gosh, those were great days, John. So one of my guests on the Silicon Spin shows I knew personally for a while and she told me that she was going, she went to Nairobi and I said, oh did you get robbed? And she said yeah. They stole her camcorder which is something like apparently worth like two years salary for a typical citizen. And she said that she had to tell, this is

24:38 She says she had to tell her husband that she lost it because it was so embarrassing because she was apparently warned that you know you have to keep everything on your purse and it just gets stolen. Terrible place, terrible place. And by the way the airport? Crap hole. You know I lived in Uganda for three years. That must have been a thrill. I don't remember that much. We've talked about the time that I was in Libya and where my parents thought I'd been stolen. I don't remember that. Yeah, you probably did but it's one of these things, you know me. Yeah, so we were on our way to Kampala and I was, I don't know, 10 months old or something and they landed in Libya for refueling and Tripoli I think and my parents got off the plane and you know there's guys around there with machine guns and everyone had to get off the plane but I was sleeping so they left me in. By the way, thanks mom and dad.

25:32 Hey, a leash would have been a little cooler so they leave me in the plane sleeping and then you know, and it's very controlled like And then they're out and then I guess it's one of these older must have been a DC I don't know what it was maybe it was a DC-3 for all I know 1964 possible or 65 I guess and then they get so they're ushered back on the plane and then the you know the plane's taken off and they put me to sleep you know I was they left me sleeping like two or three rows back and then you know the plane's taken off and my mom you know goes to check on me and uh and the door's closed and it's just a bundle of blankets there's no atom

26:14 But it's like the door's not opening and you know, so now my mom's like freaking out. Like, no, we're not, we're going. Screw your kid. And they take off. Well, what had happened is I had woken up, I guess, and I had climbed out of my seat and I had crawled underneath all the seats all the way into the back row. So they did find me eventually. But there you go. That is a I could almost do an e-book about that story. You can barely remember the story. You're a baby It's a giblet everybody. Hey, by the way John the the newsletter that you sent out yesterday. Best art ever. This needs to be a t-shirt. What, the Balmer picture? No, the Balmer picture can be on the back, but the mac and cheese fragrance, the smell of poverty, what is it? This is a great piece of art. If you haven't seen this,

27:15 Did you get it off the art generator? You must have. Yeah, no, we saw it before as a potential for a show and I think because of the content, we had something, I can look at it up and see which other piece beat it. But I always thought the piece had evergreen potential so I used it in the newsletter. Ah, it's great. So let me see, let's see who the artist is. It's essentially, it's a Chanel No. 5 bottle. And it says on it, Mac and Cheese. And then the subtitle on the bottle is, what is it, The Fragrance of Poverty? It's beautiful! Yes, Thorin did it. Of course, of course. Yeah, this is the one where we had, we ended up using the fake National Enquirer looking.

28:01 Cover oh, okay, so this is only a couple episodes ago mad men asad chemical weapons right right? No, this one was in episode 547. Okay, so in second, but yeah, you can find that in no agenda art generator calm That's it's a great piece of art and Mickey was freaking out. She's like I got a tweet this this is the best ever It needs to be a t-shirt. It's a good t-shirt. Can we get Eric to do that? I don't know. Eric actually jobs out his t-shirt work. Eric apparently... Do you just want the bottle or do you want the whole No Agenda Buzzkill crackpot thing? Well, we should have our branding somewhere. It doesn't have to be the whole thing like that, but it needs our branding. It should have noagendashow.com or something somewhere on it. It doesn't have to be... Yeah, probably right underneath the bottle.

28:48 I hear Eric's living in a trailer? He is? Yeah. Oh, no, he has his... No, here's the deal. He's building two houses. Let me tell you how this came to be. So, someone said, one of our knights sent a kind of a pissed off email saying, you could give us no respect. I've been a knight, but whenever I donate, you never say, sir. I'm like, you know, and I know what happened is because we had this huge database problem and you know Eric's been you know I know he's busy. He's doing a lot of stuff and he has to rebuild this So I just forwarded him the email I said is there any way we can do it? And he says, you know short answer. No, it'll take a couple months and which is totally cool So this is not a complaint at all. I don't want him to take the wrong way, but he casually mentions You know, it's a little tough living in the trailer. I

29:34 What? It's pretty bad with the Dvorak family. Yeah, we're all living in trailers. Double wides? So no, he's living in he's got you know he has a his place He's moving to Fort Townsend, and he's building a house for his debt is his Genetic dad and himself to some genetic dad It's called maternal and it's so that the word so he's like it's like an hour drive To go back and forth and so he bought this little trailer And so it's pretty funny actually. He's holed up in the trailer. They just had like three kids? Yeah, that's another reason to be at the trailer. Oh, he's, it's just he's in the trailer by himself. Yeah. Oh, smart man. Okay. I get it. I get it. I get it. So he's in the trailer and so he's out there and he cooks over fire and he's got, he's growing his beard and he's got an AR-15, you know, a special one.

30:37 Because there's some dog coyote that's a mix of some sort of a big breed of dogs and a coyote that has a pack of coyotes in the area. So he's a prepper. And he's trying to kill the damn thing. The dude needs a ham radio license. He needs to string up a dipole or something. Then he'll be complete. He needs a diabolo. I'm actually surprised he hasn't got his hand licensed yet. He can get it. I mean, it's very easy to get a tech license. It's very easy. It's not hard at all. Everyone should get one, by the way. That's what I say. And that's what I said when they, with floods in Colorado. Get on the air and tell people where we are. Everybody should have one. I travel with my HT, with my handy talkie.

31:21 Wherever I go, you never you never know particularly in Los Angeles. You never know. Um, so anyway, let me just get back to that about the douchebag eNOS of You know the Emmys and everything so that everyone's pissed off The whole town is talking about it because they're gonna do their you know The they always have the dead segment when you know when someone you know Then they look at the past year all the people who died on these award shows? Yeah, no, they have the dead segment. Oh, right, but they usually have somebody. Right, but they're also doing an extended separate dead segment. It's not going to be on the air? No, it's going to be on the air, but there's now a brouhaha because Cory Monteith, is that his name?

32:05 The Glee Kid who OD'd on heroin? Right, right, right. So he's getting an extended tribute. Why? Well, while Jack Klugman, and this is what Jack Klugman's gig is, so he died, you know, he was Quincy and he just died recently. He's a great actor, he's in a lot of movies. He's done movies, television shows. A lot of TV shows. So he gets like a little mention, like, eh, Jack died. Or not even, they won't even say it, they'll just rotate his picture. And meanwhile the Corey the Glee kid gets a whole special extra montage. Why? To promote drugs was Miss Mickey's theory. Look at what happens if you do drugs, kids. You get extra special attention. I don't know, it makes no sense. Oh yeah, I guess you people are getting bent out of shape about it.

32:55 Yeah, yeah, so that's uh and there's this gay thing going on that may have something to do with it, too Here's a and the propaganda is thick and heavy I think this may be part of the about this actually made this this may be part of it I think maybe part of the Russian thing play that this was done. This was actually on this morning. This is CBS Network they had a whole special on share of all people and she's just moaning about the fact that she can't get work and and she says when I look too young to be old and I look too old to be young or something she had some complaint. But play this clip in here tell me this isn't propaganda. She was approached recently about singing at the Winter Olympics in Russia. You can't cross that line. Which line? The gay line. You just can't.

33:45 Russia just passed strict anti-gay laws. Bullshit! My gay following has kept me, in the old days, alive. You know, when no one else came to see me. I've had really bad times. They've always been there. Always. Yeah, well, join the club, sister. That's who supports me. Okay, so first of all, the Winter Olympics will be telecast on CBS, so this is of course... No, NBC. It says right here. What? Think it's CBS. I may be no it's NBC. There's no I say it'd be CBS CBS Winter Olympics I think you're wrong John CBS. Let me see 92 maybe mom. Are you sure it's always NBC They bought the Olympic stuff for the winter Olympics to well now well I okay, then I may be wrong well Let me just let's find out let's don't let this slide. Yeah, this is this is important stuff people Wow NBC olympics calm

34:49 Okay, so on the day of the Winter Olympics? Yes, it's NBC Olympics 2014 NBC Olympics in Sochi, Russia. Okay, I'm sorry. Well, this was a slam of course, I mean CBS. Yeah, well and and and so... And by the way all the stuff on NBC they haven't really been they've been kind of quiet about the whole thing. Oh, okay. Yeah. They're pushing the propaganda line. That makes sense. So yeah, this is first of all, this is a blatant lie antique and this did come up by the way at a I had a meeting and there was a lunch I was going to be at with Mickey and it was one of our friends Lovely lady a lover husband. He's a Real radical leftist ex-hippie who's now a douchebag Hollywood lawyer, but he's a great guy He always says he's just on hiatus, but he'll get back to being a radical once again

35:40 It's really wealthy, very, very sweet people and they're coming out of the lunch at me. I can see on Mickey's face She's like, oh man, you have where were you I needed you because the first thing is alright So now you're gonna tell me that this is not true about the Russian gay laws. I'm like, oh geez And we're in the hotel lobby. I'm like, yeah, I can't read this is this it'll take a little more just to get into this with you, but So yeah, I think you're right. This may be a gay propaganda thing. Interesting, interesting angle on that. And I hadn't thought about that. Interesting. It's all just to highlight the Russians. So there's a lot of kind of, you know, Sam, there's a couple of semi gay stories. There was this girl in a clip of it, a girl who, and I believe there was a lot of cruelty involved in this. And it's kind of a, not a, not a great story, but maybe we should just reiterate

36:33 That we are in a cold war psychological warfare situation between the United States and Russia, and the two, in particular, it is anything anti-Obama, anything anti-Putin. And just as an example, Snowden is in Russia. You know, and there's a lot of stuff coming out about, you know, directly targeted at our president. And what's kind of sad is that the gay community is allowing themselves to be used for this stupid cockfight. Yep. I know it's in fact as we people who listen to the show regularly know we've had people challenge the thesis which is our gay crusader Brian the great gay crusader himself and he realized that Adam was right he Adam actually read the law I this came up I was at the EFF

37:26 Confab on Thursday night. This is the Electronic Frontier Foundation whistleblower awards It's actually it's called the freedom awards or the or the pioneer awards. Oh, so we were nominated clearly Yeah, I wasn't nominated it was it was and I only went to the schmooze so I could see if people a couple of interesting things that were that I got to I I haven't seen Larry Lessig for a while. I got to chat with him, but I got to... Did you say hi? You know, Larry and I have worked together on Creative Commons stuff. Did he mention me at all? Did he say, hey, how's Adam? He doesn't even know we do a show. Nobody there does. There was one very attractive girl that was there and she says, you do Noah Jenda? Oh, wait, we had Hot Chicks Noah's. What was her name?

38:13 I can't remember her name offhand. Yeah, right. Why don't you look at the number she gave you, John? Come on. She, uh, I had to question her about this because I was suspicious that she knew us at all. But that's okay. So I got to meet Daniel Ellsberg. Okay, alright, excellent. I'm not a big celebrity hunters. But I thought it was interesting to meet him. I always, you know, Daniel Ellensburg's here? Where is he? So I just barged right in and introduced myself. Did you question him about that Bogative drinking club in New York that everyone's a member of? The Laura Poitras, Glenn Greenwald, Freedom of the Press Foundation sponsored by Mother Jones? No, I didn't because it was impossible to hear him.

39:00 In fact, he had to yell in his ear what he had two hearing aids. I had to yell in his ear what my name was. It was a noisy event. Oh, that's too bad. I picked up a few interesting tidbits. There's a bunch of these little companies that are building these so-called journalism tools. Wait a minute, let me write this down. Journalism tools. I ran into three of them. Does it involve a pencil and a pad? No, it involves rigging your iPhone up so as you're doing anything it immediately gets transmitted out

39:38 and off the iPhone so you can't, you know, so somebody confiscates your phone you don't lose all the data that you've collected. But I just get the sense that it goes straight to the NSA then gets edited. Gets edited down. And then we don't get that one picture. Right. And that's all anyone was talking about by the way they're all freaked out about the NSA and their Talking about the logical ways really the NSA are any of them considering the fact that It is the press that is doing this that it is a journalist who was releasing this consistently No, in fact when I brought up the, with one little group, I brought up the Russian gay thing because it came up in the conversation because it does apparently, all those damned Russians. And I brought it up but I cut the chase with the argument because I didn't want to have to go through, and I think this is the problem you had, it's too much of an explanation. Right, so thank you, we need a one-liner, and by the way, a lot of people need this. It's a scam to gouge Hollywood. Oh yeah, that's the way to do it.

40:40 And they said, what? And I said, here's the deal. I said, this is bullcrap. This is only about propagating the formula or propagating the message, gay message to children. And since all Hollywood movies kind of do that in one way or another, they're going to stick it to Hollywood and they're going to either charge them a lot of money to show their movies there or they're going to ban all the Hollywood stuff. $31,000. Yeah. That immediately shuts down everything. There's no more debate because everyone buys that. Excellent. There you go. Another no agenda tip. Another tip. Okay, so let's just repeat the words. It's a scam to rip off Hollywood. Is that what it is? Yeah, basically. And the details when you get in lower, if you do this as an individual, you get a slap on the wrist equivalent to jaywalking. If you do it as a corporation, it's $31,000 per violation.

41:36 So that's how and of course all movies that come out of Hollywood, they always want to have that PG rating, which is for kids. Right so they're teen and over they could find that in anything So I did get there was one anecdote that was interesting good work by the way John good Did you hand out any discs? I did I always hand out discs, huh? And did you have the discs in a like in a plastic bag? Will you walk around with a plastic bag like a little bit in my back pocket quite handily? I just think it's better look if you have like a you know You had disheveled a little bit with a plastic bag. Yeah, right. That looks great. With CDs. Hey! There's a look I'm going for. Hey, have one of my CDs yet? Ellsberg's like, I can't hear you. I can't hear you. No wonder.

42:28 So Larry Lessig was brought this story up and it was kind of funny because he was at first I didn't get to talk to him because he had a bunch of well-wishers a bunch of groupies. Oh, that were they hot hanging around him Oh Larry and so he finally got away from the groupies and so we're just standing around with people that actually know the guy and he and it was funny because when he say he just dropped into the conversation as well I had a meeting with the president Exactly. And so everybody could know him, just gave him shit for saying that. Right. That's funny. I said, oh really? What president? Everyone else is hooting and hollering. So he finally apologized. That's great. And so he had his little, he said it wasn't with just him. It was a little group of people and they were bitching and moaning about the NSA and some other things and how they,

43:20 there needs to be a better way of blocking these kinds of things. Anyway, they were asking for some sort of technical change and they talked about all these geniuses out there that can fix all these different kinds of problems. And apparently the president, after listening to these guys, says, you know, you're right. There's all these guys out there that could probably fix all these problems. They're superstar nerds. He says, the problem is we can't get any of them a technical clearance. Because they're all stoned. Now here's what JC, Buzzkill Jr., who's today's his birthday, he pointed out at the dinner table he says, hey that's a bull and I should have if I just thought of this I would have thrown it right back at him because Larry would have been upset. Right. The president can give a security clearance to anybody he wants.

44:10 That's hap- uh, yeah, I guess he can. No, it's absolutely true. And by the way, how did he get security clearance with his Koch background? Who? The president! Yeah, well there you have it, he's the president. John's like, what? What did you hear about JC? What? I never heard that. I'm talking about the president. Yeah, I don't know. Exactly. So anyway, it was an interesting event I took off before I couldn't. Before it got annoying, yeah. It doesn't take long. But you didn't have to pay, right? You got comp tickets? Yeah. Okay, good. Because it was like 75 bucks or something. I didn't want you to pay for it. Well, I mean, come on. They're covering it. I'm reporting it to the world. I'm reporting. That's right. Did you use your tools?

44:56 Had a camera a guy comes up there. Hey make sure you get they had a press geek there was pretty funny Hey, you got you know that camera. Yeah, yeah, make sure you get permission Yeah, have him sign a release Yeah, don't worry. I'm negative right you know it was it was not a good venue for taking photos. Oh, oh Well, before we go any further, John, I need to mention that today by presidential proclamation is National Prisoner of War Missing in Action Recognition Day. Today is also National Employer Support of the Guard and Reserve Week and by presidential proclamation National Historically Black Colleges and Universities Week. Nice. Yeah, known as HBCUs.

45:49 And on that note, I will say, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak. Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry. Also, in the morning to all the ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there, and there's plenty of them. Yes, and there sure is. And even though we sometimes neglect to address them by their correct peerage names, we love you regardless. And in the morning everyone there in the chat room know agenda stream calm no agenda chat net and in the morning to mr oil who has not slept a wink since the arrival of his little human resource and Somehow he thinks it's going to get better No, it's not yeah, no just around the time that you're sleeping then you you're awake because you don't know where the kid is and the kids got your car and

46:34 Am I right or what John? No, no It depends on your kids and how you raise them. I never had anybody my kids steal a car I didn't say steal that you give them the keys and then you're thinking about oh my god They're out there with the car. They're doing drugs. I Just not I don't know your style is different than mine. Yeah Yes, that would be correct Wouldn't it be boring if our style was the same? Well, the show is suck. Yeah, I So let's talk about, yes, let's thank our producers. Let's thank a few executive producers for today's show, which was a really memorable show number I should have put in the newsletter, 550. Yeah. But of course. Of course. That's how good we are. Yeah. Yes, we're very dumb when it comes to like, because we could, but we did have two of the knights out there, Sir David Foley and Grant Synor. Who were awake and paying attention. Believed that he may be a knight, should be a sir. If he's not, he should be.

47:31 and they both came up with the 550 thing on their own and gave us a note. Sir David Foley says that in the morning, he's the Duke of Silicon Valley's Duke Sir David, and close find 500 for the best podcast in the universe. This is our He's the member of more clubs than anybody else that we know of. Anyone who went to 4kspecial.com and purchasing a 4K TV or digital aquarium gets a $50 discount using the promo code NA. And I'll match that discount with a $50 donation and no agenda. I gotta tell you, this is another thing in Hollywood. Everyone's talking about 4K TV. Kind of the way they were talking about 3D, only this 4K thing is something that can actually happen.

48:17 It actually will happen right yeah 4k will happen okay, everyone's talking about hey, man. We're shooting on 4k I can't imagine what it costs to shoot on 4k nothing It's nothing you can shoot 4k on all the cameras shoot 4k now. That's not that's not that big a deal It's just storage is a big deal. Yeah, and then transmission Yeah, I'm just talking about people are recording on 4K. Most of the cameras, you're right, the sensors on today's cameras... Are 4Ks? Yeah, 4Ks. They're beyond, many of them beyond 4K already. And they just need to shoot a video onto them. Well, thank you, Sir David Foley, Duke of Silicon Valley. We really appreciate it. I'd like to hear from him. Maybe you can send us a note privately if anyone's taking advantage of that $50 discount. I want to know if people are buying this stuff. It must be. I just want to know if our people are buying it.

49:12 Yeah, well I would love to have a 4k TV. Yeah, well he's not selling TVs. He's got... I don't know what he has. I'll wait till he does. He's got those boxes. Maybe find a second. Anyway, I feel right at home now like I never left Hollywood because this is how it works. We got our executive producer credits, you know, and in the opening credits of the show and these are the people who make this make the program happen. So this is great. We are so Hollywood. Grant Siner $550 in Leawood, Kansas calling out John Helmut Head Helmut Head Helmut Head Helmut Head I think it's Helmut Head Lance Fisherman I think these are Lance Fisherman and Helmut Head as supreme freeloading douchebags for turning me on to no agenda and never contributing. Now that's not okay man you gotta contribute. If you turn someone on. There's two guys, two douchebags.

50:06 hit it again oh so i'm sorry to douchebag sir gee bozey no gee boazy boazy sounds like an african name he's uh he's israeli he's he's the guy that's remember when he's in reyhovot remember reyhovot Remember when Miss Mickey when when the they took her brand at this she's gonna hate me for saying this remember when the OB tampons were taken off the shelves mysteriously and they were gone for four months and women everywhere were freaking out about this yeah he sent them from Israel remember that he's I do remember he said the care package I don't forget these things man you hook you hook a guy's wife up during you know during a tough time of the month you're brother for life

50:57 So he gave us 34569, which is a good number. He's sitting in the Schiphol Airport. Schiphol. Listening to the show made me once again thankful for all the value you two bring. I'm assuming he's on the network. On our network there, yeah, the free... It also made me think that next time I should ask you for the... Oh, he didn't! Oh my gosh! Gee, Boise! All you have to do is email me the code. I flew back home and sat down to make this donation. $299.74 for my birthday. Yay. Sunday, September 22nd, same as JC's. $69.69 for some of that and $46.24 to top it off to get a nice number. Thanks again for all the hard work you do. It's been great. Well, make sure you email me so I can send you the Schiphol Airport No Agenda Wi-Fi code. It's well worth it.

51:49 Yeah. Sean Connolly in Naperville, Illinois, 248, and I can't find a note from him. So, if you have something to say, Sean, send us another note. Let me double check. I do have a note from Sir Tim Tillman, who came with $200, associate executive producer for Mechanicsville, Virginia, and Tillman says, just made a small donation which should make me a baronet. I was one of the first knights in the ceremony. As part of my baronet status, I would like to have the full ceremonial honors. Yeah, and I think he deserves this. Of course! He was contributing before we even had knights.

52:36 That's the deal with him. And he got his... I guess he had the money, he got a knighthood or just assumed knighthood but he never knighted, literally. I don't even know if he has a ring so he has to go to noagendanation.com slash rings. Right, he should do that. Make me the baronet of central Virginia. It's simple and not flashy, which is like a slam on the others. Love the show. You guys give me a reason to get through the week. And he'll drop a six sack of sixes in October. Hell yeah. Okay. Sack of sixes, baby. Sack of sixes. Kat and Rory Leander in Sesshelt, BC, $200. Says just hi, Frank from NSA.

53:21 Yeah, that's what she just says at the bottom of her note. Hey Frank, she says, actually I had a back and forth with that. Oh yeah, I've said the whole thing here. Yeah. Hey, my husband and I just started listening to the show in April. I decided we needed some karma for dealing with the police state. Also, could you please wish our human resource a happy first birthday for the 25th? My husband listens to your show all day while driving around for work and I'm always slipping things into my classes to try and get my students thinking. You guys have a very entertaining show. So glad my friend Rock Harvey Sounds like a total porn name. Hey rock Everybody rock Harvey is coming at you right now Someone's getting cornhole today sounds like a recipe for success to me So I saw this email from from from Kat and I and I said and I and I'm interested because I always love it when we have educators Educating kids with no agenda stuff. I said, well, what do you teach? I

54:17 And she says, I teach K-7 music and band at three schools. I love what I do. I feel that the arts are the last refuge in our institutions of critical thinking. I honestly believe that is why governments are doing all they can to undermine it. Well, yeah, of course. I think so too. I agree with that 100%. Yeah, like what is it, Common Core? Is that the thing that everyone's on now? Common Core is the curriculum, the Obama administration thing. I don't know. Yeah, we need to look at this or something weird going on with it. Anyway, most recently we talked about songs being stuck in your head. The kids thought it was funny and I asked them if they thought it could be true about ELF waves. Oh, she's going all the way with this.

55:04 Nice. One came back with a very critical response. One student reminded us that the Canadian government interned Japanese people during World War II, took their land and sold it to pay for the war. Therefore, they are capable of everything we're thinking of. It's just a matter of if the technology actually exists. You gotta love that Canadian kid thinking up there, don't you? Like yeah, the government's pretty liberal. Basically the kid just said, yeah the government are cruel a-holes so as long as they got the technology of course they'll do it.

55:40 You got some smart kids there, Kat. Well that's why in fact people always seem to forget this, the Constitution was written to protect the public from the government. Oh man, I saw... And limit what it can do. That's what the only thing it's about. It's not about giving them rights so they can tax the crap out of us. Yeah, I saw one of those videos. I thought about clipping it for a minute but I decided against it. One of those man on the street things where people say, the guy says, Can you name three of the amendments in the Constitution? And of course, you know, in this piece no one can mention three. But the ones they do say is the right to bear arms, I have the right to bear arms, I have the right to free speech. No, no, those are not the amendments. The amendments say

56:27 That the government cannot infringe on your right that you already have you haven't been given anything by the Constitution So even these as specifically the federal government. Yes, and it's so sad. It's so you can yeah It's so sad that people don't the fundamentals are not be the whole idea as you just said is and that's why it's a great system and is that the Constitution is to prohibit the federal government from infringing on rights you already have. You're not some slave who's given some trinkets. Here's 10 trinkets, slave. This is what you get. No, you have all this. These are just some extra precautions. We're doomed. All right, onward. Let's see if we got a note here from Rory. You mean Regina Schaefer?

57:18 We just did cat. Oh, yeah, we just did Rory. Yeah, we did cat and Rory Thank you very much cat and Rory your associate executive producers for the show appreciate it SC Regina Regina Rhymes with no boy John welcome to third grade That's what they that's what everyone who lives in the in Regina Says if you ever met anybody from there Canada the Canadians they all say that yeah, okay, uh no I've got no no no Regina Regina you can send us a note later Please do send this note because I want to know what Regina's one now We don't have a lot of well actually I think we have more women than we used to have who listen to the show and support I think we got a pretty our audience is probably about I'm guessing just off the top of my head around 35% women really which is pretty high It's very high for podcasts

58:16 Yeah Yeah, so I was at the EFF thing and there's a what real cutie comes up to me says so what do you do? And I said podcast. I'm a podcaster and so she just turned and walked off It's very strange Never ever ever say that That is, that's, you might as well say I pick my nose and eat the boogers. I mean it's the horrible thing to say. I'm a podcaster. I'm a podcaster. I'm sorry I have to go poop now. It's just like they'll do anything to get away from you. Rolf Lehman in Wiesenthal, Switzerland. $200 in the morning. Swiss Senna here.

58:59 Oh, Swiss Senate, yeah. Swiss Senate. A few weeks have passed since my last donation. So I do need a... Do I need a de-douching? He wants to know. No. But he says yes. So give him a de-douching. Okay, de-douching. You've been de-douched. So, um, uh, just to annoy John C., maybe a little Atlas Shrugged. Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. Well, I'm working. I listen to a lot of podcasts, but I have to say yours is the one with the best sound and Volume levels. Thank you. You can thank Adam. He produces the show. Yeah, keep up the good work, and I'm looking tour Forward to what the guy will disclose on September 23rd. That's the the guy bought MK ultra with the Michael Jackson tapes. Oh

59:47 Yeah. Yeah, well we'll see that's tomorrow. I'm curious. We'll see. Could be something, could be nothing, we could be dead tonight. Yeah, we're on top of it for you though. Michael Siegenthaler in Phoenix, Arizona. Well I finally made it, please knight me as Sir Skits. Send any size ring you got, I'll never wear it on my hand anyway. I might mount it onto the butt of my gun. Perfect. That would be cool. Now that's hitting him in the mouth. By the way, I want three geishas and a bucket of fried chicken. Okay, hold on a second. He wants you to add that to the list. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm copying it. Pretty soon the list will take up most of the show. Well, I think we should vote on this list at some point. Really? Well, not yet, but I say... I mean, it's not like we're doing it every single show. Well, that's true. Let me just put this in here. I'm going to put in...

1:00:42 three geishas and a bucket of fried chicken. Okay, it's in. We'll take care of you. And those are our executive producers for show 550. We want to thank them all. Remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak dot com slash NA, No Agenda Show or NoAgendaNation dot com and there should be a donate button somewhere there on the page and help us for the upcoming show 551 on Thursday which I believe this next week because of the cycle of things is going to be interesting. So there were a couple of good PR initiatives that took place. I want to mention that noagendacd.com is now completely relaunched. Ramsey Cain is doing a huge deal now. I mean, you know, this is a... He gets to... This is part of his actual job, his boss. This is his task that his boss, who is of course a producer and listener, has said, this is what you are going to do.

1:01:38 You work for my company, but I'm making you do this, which is noagendaCD.com. You can download this, you can burn discs, he has all these shorter segments. Definitely go and check that out. And we're also, I think I'm doing some jingles or something to make it even snappier. So be on the lookout for that. Then we have, if you go to blog.curry.com, John, there's two entries there I'd like you to take a look at. blog.curry.com. Let me just make sure it got through. I think it did. Yes. So the top there you'll see the top entry is no agenda road sign. You see that?

1:02:17 I'm just getting there now. I have to type and I have a microphone. No gender roadside. All right, so you click here for the picture, so you want to click on that. And I'll read the email from Matt Milligan. Hola, Senor Adam. Oh, nice. Yes, here are some pics of my first attempt at basically a chalk billboard on a hillside along a busy highway going into Sparks, Reno. Okay. Not that easy to read in the pic, but easily legible in person while driving. He did it with a $10 bag of lime from Home Depot. He says he has since found a more upright hill closer to the road. He's going to attempt it again this Monday night. Good. This is a great idea. When you take a look at this picture though, it is great. And I think you should actually say Google no agenda show. That may even be better.

1:03:02 If you just maybe you can add that, don't you think John that would be good to say Google no agenda or just do you think no agenda show is good enough? Well if it's going to be Google then it would be Google no agenda. Right. Or no agenda show. But I think putting no agenda show on the side of a hill is a good idea and it's also visible from the air. I think if anybody's near an airport runway, and some area, because most people, I don't know about you, but I like to look out the window when I'm flying. And so I look out the window to see what things look like from the sky, and I play a game, would I be able to, where is that? And it would be cool, I think on a rooftop or something, right by an airport where the planes are coming in, so it's visible from the air, I think would be cool.

1:03:49 So I'm gonna see that bag of lime two bags of lime it would probably really do the trick yeah I'm he wants a karma shot football field he's gonna get a karma shot for that you've got karma and we really appreciate that I think that's a that is a great initiative and we have another uh we have a celebration if you go back to blog.curry.com John Are you back? No, not yet. Okay, well just the back button, shouldn't be all that hard. Well I wasn't leaned over the computer. I was enjoying your verbosity. The second entry, no agenda racing, we are now second in the nation in our class and you can click on a picture of Sir Andrew Gardner in the winner's circle, look at this picture.

1:04:36 Look at this. I mean we've got banners. He's got no agenda racing all over the bike. This is the 600 CC class You got it. Yeah, I'm looking at it now. How awesome is this? And by the way, Andrew's kind of a cute, good looking guy. Yeah, I think girls should throw themselves at. Hell yeah. Look at that. But he's a motorcycle racer too. What could be sexier? Yeah. The beard. I don't know. I don't like kissing beards and mustaches, but he's a sexy looking guy. Yeah. So he's got no agenda racing there. And it's just I'm very, very proud. We're second in the nation. And on the same page on my blog there, you can see a video of the race. He started like three rows back.

1:05:17 like 19th place or something and finished second. That's good. And those videos are cool. He's got the telemetry, you can see where he is on the track and how fast he's going and you got the sound and everything. It's smoking, it's hot. I just think that once in a while you should have like a horn on the side. A horn. And as he goes by the grandstand... devorak.org slash NA Wouldn't that be cool? Yes, that'd be very cool. Okay. Well, that's probably not gonna happen. Anyway, thank you very much to our producers and continue to propagate the formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth

1:06:07 Before we move on I do have a sad note to pass on but I did want to take just a moment one of our financial producers who was always handing off and this is it's kind of a It's kind of a weird chain of events, but I was receiving through our producer Trev Trev Merkin I was receiving Daily financial newsletter. There's a real high-end thing that only you know Like top financial people receive and he was being given it to pass on to us from a gentleman named Patrick Pat Fonda Elst and

1:06:46 and he passed away suddenly. It was it was... I know I said and because Trevor and this guy's kind of like an uncle to Trevor and he didn't know what was going on. We weren't getting the newsletter And because I would get it with every morning would show up, you know, and then Trev would parse it and he said look at this. Oh, it's fantastic So our sympathy of course is with his wife Agnes And and Trev and everyone else who knew who knew Pat so very very sad You know, of course also sad that we won't be getting the information but I just sucks when you lose someone who's who's cool like that Okay, yeah, sorry I didn't mean to bum you out, but I didn't you know when we did we know we celebrate when the new human resources are born and we need to celebrate those who? Can move on to to better prepper fields? Apparently we've done a deal with China a non I didn't know about this until I heard the Chinese one of the Chinese trade representatives speak at the Brookings Institute and

1:07:47 And he speaks fairly good English, but he decided to say all this in Chinese, which made for a lousy clip. Do we have a long clip of that? Because that would be funny. Yeah, well it's being translated but... He... play the clip and then we can talk about what it might have to do with anything. But today you can rest assured that I will not say sorry again no matter what foreign policy questions you raise. This is a year of great significance in China-US relations. Last June the two presidents held a successful and historic meeting in Annenberg State, California.

1:08:29 The most important outcome is that China and the United States agreed to build a new model of major country relations. The agreement is strategic, constructive, and path-breaking in nature. It has charted the future course for our relations. It will surely produce a positive and profound impact on the Asia-Pacific and indeed the evolution of the international landscape. With the agreement come two questions. First, what is this new model of relations about? And second, how to make it a reality

1:09:25 President Xi Jinping has laid out a clear vision for the new models. In his words, the essential features of this model include, number one, no conflict or confrontation, number two, mutual respect, and number three, win-win cooperation. This answers the first question. No conflict or confrontation is the prerequisite for the new model of major country relations between us. There's no real conflict. Interesting. Yeah, so they've signed and it's like this like Hitler signing that he did that with the Russians. They signed a non-aggression pact. Yeah. Which is what this sounds like. And then there was the other parts which included, what was the last one? It was new ways moving forward or something. No, it was the win-win cooperation thing.

1:10:25 So in other words, they're supposed to work together to win-win. And who was this again? Who was the Chinese? This was, I think, the trade minister or one of the big shots in China who was at the Brookings. The only thing I can think of is that the Chinas, of course, they want natural resources. They're doing tons of deals with the Russians. You know, I got to tell you, man, I don't trust these Chinas. Well, this particular guy looks pretty suspicious. Dodgy, dodgy, dodgy. Dodgy China. No, but you know, they're like your fair weather friend. You know what I mean? It's like they're doing big deals with Russia for a while. And that's by the way the term that they invented to describe themselves to the Pakistanis and the Afghanistanis, saying that we're like fair weather friends to them and you should trust us because we're long term.

1:11:19 Us Chinese people are long-term, we'll always be with you. And so then they move in and they essentially exploit their position. They are all over Kenya, by the way. Oh yeah, no, they're all over most of Africa. No, we know that, but I was surprised about now that there's a lot of Chinese stuff popping up in regards to this Nairobi thing. Well, let's go over one more time, which we haven't discussed for quite a while, the basic trick that the Chinese use in Africa, which has been discussed by our governments and mostly discussed by corporations. The Chinese bid for very large projects, which are very often very ambitious and are never necessarily finished on time.

1:10:25 So in other words, they're supposed to work together to win-win. And who was this again? Who was the Chinese? This was, I think, the trade minister or one of the big shots in China who was at the Brookings. The only thing I can think of is that the Chinas, of course, they want natural resources. They're doing tons of deals with the Russians. You know, I got to tell you, man, I don't trust these Chinas. Well, this particular guy looks pretty suspicious. Dodgy, dodgy, dodgy. Dodgy China. No, but you know, they're like your fair weather friend. You know what I mean? It's like they're doing big deals with Russia for a while. And that's by the way the term that they invented to describe themselves to the Pakistanis and the Afghanistanis, saying that we're like fair weather friends to them and you should trust us because we're long term.

1:11:19 Us Chinese people are long-term, we'll always be with you. And so then they move in and they essentially exploit their position. They are all over Kenya, by the way. Oh yeah, no, they're all over most of Africa. No, we know that, but I was surprised about now that there's a lot of Chinese stuff popping up in regards to this Nairobi thing. Well, let's go over one more time, which we haven't discussed for quite a while, the basic trick that the Chinese use in Africa, which has been discussed by our governments and mostly discussed by corporations. The Chinese bid for very large projects, which are very often very ambitious and are never necessarily finished on time.

1:12:00 with the proviso that all the stuff that they do, they bring in their own workers and they set them up in their own housing and they build these little cities. But the big proviso is that they can bring in whatever they need tax-free, tariff-free. Let's just let me mention that these projects will be, so they'll say we want to develop in your region and we'll just take Nairobi, Kenya as an example, they're all over the place. We're going to start a mine here. We want to get these natural resources, these minerals, but we will build roads. We will build a hospital. We will build a university and we will bring lots of Chinese restaurants. I'll bet there are. So they make this deal and a part of the deal is this creating this tariff-free

1:12:51 importation deal and what they end up doing is they bring in everything under the sun and begin and create a gray market in the country and sell and undercut everybody else. So they'll bring in, for example, Huawei routers and they'll set up a computer store and they'll sell the routers at half the price you'd pay for a Cisco because the Cisco have a big tariff hanging off of it. Even if Cisco wanted to match the price, they couldn't literally. And so they create this market that just upsets the apple cart. And they do it in every one of these countries and that's kind of the game they're playing. And they do build these great roads and all these other things at the same time, but they're really trying to get rid of more of their products. They're a manufacturing country out of control and they gotta move stuff. And so they're just decimating all these markets. And the cool thing is, once they've built the road,

1:13:49 and they've got the mines going, then the Americans come in and then we like, you know, first we get the CIA to start up some Al-Qaeda activity and then we come in and start bombing the place and droning everybody and suggesting you Chinese might want to leave. And they do! Yeah, well they left Libya if we recall the Libyan action. The first 35,000 refugees out of Libya were Chinese. Right, and there were whole cities that were being built by the Chinese for the Chinese and there are photos of these places and they're massive. The Chinese seem to like building cities overnight. Yeah. But it was all bombed out and the Chinese all left.

1:14:30 Yeah, that's usually a good thing to do. So this agreement about no confrontation... Basically they're saying, hey, don't drone me, bro. Is interesting. And then the second part of it, of course, was implementation. And I didn't take that clip because it was boring. The first clip was bad enough. But the Chinese are trying to work with us without... They're trying to work, you know, but again, I think you're right. You can't And the Chinese, American Chinese that I know, I've had a lot of discussions with and they feel the same way. They always say, oh, you know, you got to be careful. You know, the Chinese, you got to be careful.

1:15:08 because you can all of a sudden you know you buy something and your money disappears so does the company and they all say this. What do you mean you buy something your money disappears? Well I mean Eric has had this problem he ordered some samples of something and then all of a sudden the guy just took the money didn't provide anything. And you can't do anything about it which is a real problem. It feels to me when I'm hearing this That the, you know, we now know that it's, it is in many ways, particularly with loss of revenue, loss of opportunity costs, you know, with traveling and go, you know, changing specs and basically overseeing your Chinese manufacturing partner, that it's become cost effective to do this in America. And it seems like they also are a little on the defensive

1:15:58 And worried that we're just gonna, you know, that people will stop coming over. It may also be a marketing thing. Maybe we should be on the lookout for marketing messages about how great China is. Maybe that's what the real agreement is about. Maybe. I think something is weird about this whole thing. We do have this new trade agreement very similar to the one we're setting up with the Europeans. Yeah, the Asian trade. Asian Pacific trade. They keep having these meetings and which is to get some sort of smoother, you know, but again there's this issue of cheap Chinese products coming into and decimating a market which has happened here of course that's why there's no manufacturing jobs unless you're in the highest of high-tech, you know, you have Raytheon, you can get a job there. Right. Or Boeing, you can work at Boeing, although Boeing's jobbed out a lot of their stuff, although I think that's the end of that because of this fiasco with the 787 where they basically lost their ass on the project. Right.

1:16:57 And it's still a plastic plane. Which we don't like here at the No Agenda Show. We like sheet metal and rivets. It's like the people always gave me crap I was saying something about the Tesla S, which is glued together. Yeah, with Elmers. Elmer's glue. I have to say, I mean, this is an $80,000 car. Yeah, but you could have bought one for $55,000 when they were first offered. Yeah, I could buy five of the cars I have right now for that, but irrelevant. I mean, it's a sexy-ass car. Oh yeah, it's gorgeous. I mean, you look at it, and it's like, blech! And chicks. It's gorgeous inside and out. It's drool, yeah, yeah. So why can't Detroit make a car like this? Hello?

1:17:40 Yeah, well, that's a good question. That is the true question because I just don't like the battery part. I don't want the battery. I don't want a battery car. It doesn't seem like a good idea. That's 1890s technology, people. Well the other problem with the battery car is that the risk of electrocution. It's because battery. What do you mean? It does exist. No seriously, the fire departments have all been trained. Priuses are notorious for killing people. Really? Yeah, by electrocuting them. It's like it's been suppressed information. Yeah, and the fire departments are the ones who freak out because if the car catches on fire and they have to put it out. Oh, they don't want to be spraying that because yeah, oh interesting.

1:18:19 It becomes a huge issue or if somebody gets into a wreck and you have to go after them with the jaws of life, you cut across the wrong part of the car with that choppers, boom. Is there that much current running through these things? That things are laced. The Prius is laced with juice? Yes! I gotta look into this. Nobody talks about this but this is like one of the scandals about these electric cars. Prius electrocution. Let me just see. Prius electrocution. Let me see. Man electrocuted by Prius. Oh well. This is... but that's 2009. Prius plus first responders plus electrocution. Interesting.

1:19:09 Electrocution danger. Huh? Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't know that. No moral reason to hate these things. Electricity is kills. Wow, okay. Another tip. Don't get into a wreck with a Prius. If you're in a Prius and you get in a wreck, get out of that thing. Another tip from the No Agenda Show. You learn a lot listening to this show. Don't get in a wreck. Don't get in a wreck with a Prius. It's not good for you. I did have a chance to, you know, there was a big, it was kind of snowed under because of all the, still the Navy Yard and this bogative debt ceiling. How many times do we have to see this, this reality show? How many times do we have to go through this?

1:19:53 I mean they're not... I guess it's a two-year cycle it looks like to me. Yeah but the rate it's no good for ratings, it's boring. It's horrible for our show because it covers up real stories. So there was a four-hour Benghazi thing, Benghazi hearing as we now passed a year and I'd like to reiterate because people forget that we know what happened in Benghazi. It was a kidnapping, an attempted kidnapping set up by most likely the State Department and probably in particular Hillary Clinton and her cabal to kidnap

1:20:35 uh... the chris stevens and this would serve as the october surprise and uh... and it should of course for hillary but as the october surprise because the president would then negotiate his freedom i've just in time for the elections it went wrong and the Tunisian terrorists who were sent in to do this job got a little overzealous probably because you know someone figured out Chris Stevens was gay and then they they raped him in the most and also never reported or barely reported I mean they like well we also know also yeah we also determined that there may have been two operations going on at the same time why yes yeah crossed wires there was a CIA

1:21:15 operation to move guns. Yeah, weapons up and then it crossed with which just shows you how much disarray there is and of course you know the CIA really is trying to run the world and certainly the country. And the sad part is the election went to the president even without all that but then there was the big cover-up you remember with the so-called video which we all called bullcrap on immediately. Right and we had one other aspect of this analysis There was no reason for the president to suspect that he was going to win so easily because the media had bull crap the public into thinking it was a close race so they continue to get advertising revenues from both parties. Which is why they always do that. Yeah, that's why it's always a close race to the very end and then the guy sweeps. It's like what happened? How did this happen overnight? Well, it's because you've been... No, it's because the New York Times guy had all the numbers and he knew it. That smart guy.

1:22:11 Yeah, one guy, the one guy, the one guy, you have to shoot him. He was the only one. What are you guys talking about? This is over. And then there were, we heard initially 35, it turns out close to 100 witnesses who were there at the compound. And I would think a lot of them are CIA. That's why, you know, but they've all been hustled off. They were sent over to Germany. They were stuck in Germany for a while. Some of them wounded. We we also reported on this immediately and and now a year later There is they have still never been heard. They've never been They're not allowed to talk about it. Yes, and and this is what Darrell Issa? Who was an interesting guy by the way I finished that book the this town

1:22:59 the the book by the New York Times writer about Washington DC a lot of it is about Issa and particularly about Isis PR guy who kind of rose really quickly and and you know because I said he's he makes a His fortune comes from a car alarm. He made the Viper car alarm You know that car alarm that says step away from the vehicle back off That's how he made his money Did you know that? No. Yeah, he's that guy. He made that, remember those annoying car alarms from like, you know, the 90s? They were terrible, I hated them. Yeah, so that was his main product and he made a huge fortune on it and I think he continues to make car alarms. So the guy is kind of like, like icky. He's like the Jason Calacanis of politics.

1:23:48 Whoa, I didn't know where that came from. All right. So here is a Derek. Luckily, of course, Jason doesn't listen to the show either. You know, I love him. Yeah, really? All right. Here's a here is the ice a grilling Admiral Mullen. You said that the administration, the secretary and so on made your job easy because you had full access to 100 witnesses and the attempt was to have full transparency. Correct. Do you think that Congress should have that same option? In other words, since the State Department has not made one of those witnesses you interviewed first available, meaning people in Benghazi who are fact witnesses, none have been made available. As a matter of fact, even the names have been, to the greatest extent possible, withheld from this committee. Do you believe that's appropriate or do you believe that we should have access to fact witnesses as we review the process?

1:24:40 Mr. Chairman, I think that's, and I've been in government a long time, that's something that historically, and certainly in this case, has to be worked out between the Congress and the executive branch. If something like the coal attack occurred again today and Congress said we wanted to speak to people who were on the deck of that ship today, would you believe that we should have a right to speak to those people in order to understand the facts on the ground? I love this question. I love that he did this. It's very, very smart. That day. I don't... I honestly... I'm asking from your experience... I understand that. I don't know... In a DOD framework. I don't know what would limit you to do that, quite frankly.

1:25:23 I am in the process of issuing subpoenas because the State Department has not made those people available, has played hide and go seek, and is now hiding behind a thinly veiled statement that there's a criminal investigation. As you know, there was a criminal investigation on the coal at any time that Americans are killed abroad. So the answer, quite frankly, is we are not being given the same access that you had or Mr. Sullivan and his team had. And that's part of the reason that this investigation cannot end until the State Department gives us at least the same access they gave your board.

1:26:02 So I'm now thoroughly convinced that Daryl Issa is only putting on this charade to get more money out of somebody. You know, election funds, whatever. This is the same tired story over and over again. We know we're never going to get to the bottom of it, certainly not in the public sphere. I think most people know by now in politics what happened. No, I think that Congress knows what happened. So this is just over and over again. Some people don't know, and here's a little clip of the mega Obama bot Barbara Boxer. Boxer? Is it Boxter? Boxer? Yeah, Boxer. Boxer. I like Boxter better than... Well, from now on she's Barbara Boxter. She's the one, as you recall, that used to try to pick up the air pollution inspectors. Oh, do tell the story again, John.

1:26:50 You really want me to tell it? Yes, yes, because I, yes, yes. We had two people, a member of the board, the regional air pollution board. One of them was Boxer and one was Feinstein, and I have these two anecdotes about both of them. But the Boxer one is the most interesting because after one of the meetings she would always try to solicit one of the air pollution inspectors. We all had cars. And you were an air inspection Yeah, I was. I'm an expert on air pollution, believe it or not. I believe it. So we had these cars and she would find some, okay, can I get a ride home? And the guys, all the guys would bitch about this because she'd make a pass at everybody trying to get them in the sack. Now she's not, certainly back in the day, I think she's doable. Well, she still wears kind of a whorish makeup. Yeah, but that's what's so great about it. Yes, but imagine just being 25 or longer years ago, a long time ago.

1:27:45 She would look pretty good. Yes, that's what I'm saying and I know I think she probably was But it was very annoying nobody wanted to take her driver. It was like everyone's scatter She looks she came out of these meetings. She looks kind of like a news anchor. You know she's sexy did she how's her body? Was it okay back then? I don't know I never fucked her John Jesus whatever the case there would be the funniest thing to watch everyone scatter jump in their car should drive off Hey, man, I got to pick up the kids It looks like she had dark hair back in the day she still does no no no no no she's like she's like blondish darkest blonde and

1:28:26 Anyway, so black hairs. I recall right so she is a super duper Obama bot and here's her contribution dumb by the way That's a real problem Wait, how about how about Feinstein? Would was she whorish to no not at all? But she was a just the opposite. She was very prudish and she was just but she was also she was I would say she was even dumber Well, listen, you can't fix stupid. We all know that that's what we say here in Texas. I It's a longer joke. All right, here's a Boxster in her contribution. You'll kind of like this as she rebuts what is being said. She's having none of what's being said. The senator from Texas. I thank my friend from Kansas for his leadership and for his reasonable call that we ascertain the truth on this very important matter. Given the year-long collective failure of our government either to gain clarity on what happened in Benghazi on September 11th

1:29:22 or to extract any retribution for the terrorist attack. Congress should now form a joint select committee to launch a proper investigation. We have four dead Americans. It has been a full year. My co-sponsors on this recommendation and I have had enough without answers and without the truth. I therefore ask unanimous consent the Rules Committee be discharged from further consideration of Senate Resolution 225. Is there objection? I object. I object. I would make, I would like to explain why if that would be appropriate for the next two minutes if I could. Objections heard.

1:30:02 Senator may proceed. Thank you. I'm proud to be on the Foreign Relations Committee for many years and this Benghazi tragedy occurred and the foreign relations committee held hours of hearings. I sat through those hearings and I want to say to my friends, I share their dismay that we haven't caught the perpetrators but I want to remind them that the president who caught Osama bin Laden who killed so many of our people was President Obama and when he says he's going to do something, he won't rest until he does it.

1:30:40 So, uh, OJ Simpson. And I want to point out to the, uh, to Senator Boxster that the president, uh, uh, was playing at old maid with Reggie love in the white house executive dining room or spades, whatever he was playing. He didn't go catch Osama Bin Laden. He, by the way, no one caught him. They killed some dude. Shot him through the head, threw him in the ocean. We get to see these shots from the mall in Kenya. Yeah, but we can't, we would be too shocked to see a shot from the mall. And then they threw him over the side, I mean just as fast as they could. Because all Muslims get thrown over the side within five hours. Unless you know Muhammad's mom's name. Do you remember it? Amina. Very good. This is a tip. So this is so, it's just mind-boggling. This woman is on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

1:31:32 And in fact, particularly with the knowledge that we have that she was just whoring with air pollution guys. That's low. What? I'm sorry, John. You show some ability to judge things. So around this time now, all of the Democrats on the panel on the day, they've left. They left the building. Mind you, there were not a lot of people in on this at all. I mean, it was not the center of attention for media coverage. But Sean Smith's mom gets up there and she's testifying. Remember Sean Smith's mom?

1:32:08 No. You will when you hear what she has to say. Wait a minute, I take that back. I apologize. I was told a few things and they were all lies. All right. Obama and Hillary and Panetta and Biden. and Susan. I love how she says Hillary and Susan. Isn't that great? Not Secretary Clinton or Ambassador Rice, no, Hillary and Susan. All came up to me at the casket ceremony. Every one of them came up to me, gave me a big hug, and I asked them what happened. Please tell me.

1:32:47 And every one of them says it was the video. And we all know that it wasn't the video. Even at that time they knew it wasn't the video. So they all lied to me. But what they said was, I will check up on it and get back to you for sure. And you know how many times I heard from them? None. I don't count. People of America don't count. The only thing that counts is their own selves and their own jobs and the people that are involved in this get suspended for a short time, paid the whole time and then rehired or whatever it is that they do. I want to know what happened to my son. Why can't these people tell me this? I love this. That's, that is, you know, there you go. That's it. These people are only involved with themselves and here's a lone mom

1:33:42 Yeah, crying in the wind. Yeah, and that's exactly what it's about people. And America is not unique in this. No, of course not. That's why we need to be protected from our government. Yeah, that's right. They're a bunch of douchebags. Yes, exactly. So you were down in Hollywood? Yeah, I was. I got a little clip. I didn't know this was going on to such an extreme. It sounds like Berkeley. This is the West Hollywood animal rights action going on. A Southern California city is believed to be the first in the country to ban the sale of fur. Stores in West Hollywood cannot sell anything made from the skin or pelt of animals. The city passed the ordinance two years ago, but officials consulted with retailers before putting it into effect.

1:34:31 Retailers could face a misdemeanor after three citations. West Hollywood is known for its animal-friendly laws. It bans the declawing of cats and recognizes pets as companions and owners as guardians. I remember this was taking place when we still lived there. That was about two years ago, but I'd forgotten about the you don't own the pet It's your companion and you're just a a minder. Yeah, you're the guardian guard Yeah, that's funny that but they had to do that because otherwise, you know, it doesn't fit in with the fur thing and

1:35:08 because they have that same sort of thinking in Berkeley, although Berkeley probably is kicking itself for not banning fur sooner because it hasn't done that yet. In our area now we have the plastic bags are banned. So you got to bring your own bag in and so you go to like these places and there's people with... But that, first of all, you don't have to. Grimy old bags that are dirty. But it's a scam. It's a scam because all that happens is you don't have a bag and then they charge you two bucks as a fine, an alternate bag usage fee, and then they just give you a bag. Well not here, what it is you have to buy the bag for 10 cents or 20 cents each. And it's usually a paper bag and it's usually really small so you have to buy a bunch of them. And meanwhile of course we have gotten to such an extreme that even though you can still get plastic bags for like if you buy a bunch of cherry tomatoes you gotta put them in something and put them in a plastic bag. We still have these

1:36:01 unbelievable idiots in the Berkeley area especially who will bring all the you know like piles of of little tomatoes these little small miniature tomatoes around tomato yes small put them on the conveyor belt one at a time And so these little tomatoes are rolling all over the place and these guys are trying to move them onto the scale And so they then the guy takes these little tomatoes and then puts them in the in a grimy old bag It's just a horrible. I hate shopping around here with these people. Yeah, I can understand I'm sorry reminds me the other thing it bugs me Oh in Berkeley Nobody knows how to make a left turn in a big intersection

1:36:45 What they, you know, what you say you're on, you have a left turn lane and there's a bunch of people behind you. Normally what a normal driver knows what he or she is doing, you push yourself halfway into the intersection so when the, especially in a crowded situation, the light turns yellow, you get, you and the guy behind you and the guy behind you can all make the turn. Pop through, yeah. But do that. They stay at the line Way back. That's actually illegal. That is the California law. You're supposed to pull forward I don't think you're allowed to stay at the line I don't know that that is I don't believe it is illegal But they stay at the line and then when the light turns, you know yellow to red they shoot out and make the turn everyone stop It screws up all the traffic and you behind them don't get to go. It's just annoying. Yeah. All right. Well, I'll hit it for that John Cena

1:37:40 A little bit of slave training that I need to talk about and I can't remember if this if we talked about this or if it took place but it is upcoming 2013 in your area John. Urban Shield. This will be Urban Shield Alameda County October 25th through 28th. As you know Urban Shield has grown into a comprehensive full-scale regional preparedness exercise Assessing the overall Bay Area, UASI region's response capabilities related to multiple discipline planning, policies, procedures, organization, equipment and training. Urban Shield continues to test regional integrated systems for prevention, protection, response and recovery in our high threat, high density urban area. UrbanShield.org if you're interested. You may want to get out of town, John.

1:38:36 I might it might be a good time to take a little trip to Europe or something. They also yeah, right They also have a vendor show vendor. Yeah, it's a I think we talked about this last year the year before So it's they do a big Drill essentially, let me see this videos here, but they also have you know vendors and they show off all the cool stuff they've got All the you know all the groovy gear which you may want to see So that is taking place up in your neck of the woods. Then we also have Coming up in November. This is a little more disturbing Grid X 2 and this will be held across the country. Let me get this open. This is from the New York Times actually this is one of those things have been kind of flies under the radar this story and

1:39:37 But, oh, you've reached your limit of 10 complimentary articles this month. Well, fuck you, New York Times. I already got an offline copy in the show notes. The electric grid as government and private experts describe it is the glass jaw of American industry. This is the New York Times. It's the glass jaw of the American industry, John. If an adversary... Last jaw? A boxing term? Yes, of the American industry. Let that go through? It's the opening line. The opening line of this New York Times article. It's called the LEED. The LEED. L-E-D-E. As worries over the power grid rise, a drill will simulate a knockout blow. That's the headline. This is why thousands of utility workers, business executives, National Guard officers, FBI, anti-terrorism experts and officials from government agencies in the United States, Canada and Mexico

1:40:26 That's the North American Union. Are preparing for an emergency drill in November that will simulate physical attacks and cyber attacks that could take down large sections of the power grid. Oh brother. Oh yeah. They will practice for a crisis unlike anything the real grid has ever seen and more than 150 companies and organizations have signed up to participate. One goal of the drill called grid x2 is to explore how governments would react as the loss of the of the grid crippled the supply chain for everyday necessities Yeah So, okay. Here's what here's the drill most of the participants will join the exercise from their workplaces with NERC that's the the national emergency response

1:41:15 Club the nurk in Washington announcing successive failures one example organizers say is a Substation break-in that officials initially think is an attempt to steal copper But instead the intruder uses a USB drive to upload a virus into a computer network These guys are high, okay? They're smoking crack. They are totally stoned. They are high! And by the way, they could hire us to come up with more fun and games. This is dumb. We can do much better than this. But this is all part of your slave training, people. And here's another. This is up in Washington. This is Olympic College had an active shooter drill.

1:41:58 Simulated gunfire and panic erupted on campus at Olympic College in Bremerton for an active shooter training exercise on Friday. Over 300 first responders and actors went through the drill. We have multiple law enforcement agencies who have responded along with several Fire and rescue units in this scenario a gunman is loose on the campus law enforcement has to take him down Emergency crews tend to the victims sadly in the reality of the world we live in today. This is a possibility We just want to make sure everybody has a clear simple plan of action Local law enforcement agencies, Kitsap County Fire Districts, Harrison Medical Center, the Washington State Youth Academy and Kitsap County Emergency Management all took part in the training. While some people living nearby were startled to see the huge response, those involved say nothing makes them better prepared than live training. The events of earlier this week in Washington DC reflect that.

1:42:56 This is an exercise that has been planned for well over a year. So if something like this ever happens for real, they can get their jobs done faster, saving lives. Saving lives. That's right. We'll save lives. So all these drills, you know, first of all, whenever there's a drill, I mean, so we have two big ones coming up. This, it has the nasty habit of turning into a real, real world situation. So we'll be on the lookout for that. I think when they do these drills, and just this is a recommendation of the criminals out there. Yeah, this is the one of these big drills. All the cops are from all over the place. Now's the time to go rob a bank. It's another no agenda crime tip. That's the time to do it. So what does this result in? Now back in the day, I mean, there's one thing, you know, we have freedom of speech. And what is the example of one version of freedom of speech that is not allowed?

1:43:49 Well yelling fire in a theater. Yes, correct that has now changed in 2013 a gun scare forced an organ movie theater to be evacuated last night witnesses say an argument erupted in a back row during a movie someone thought they heard the word gun and shouted the word which caused a panic Somebody heard the word gun. What was this like a mic check? Well, do you everybody yells gun now? Someone thought they heard the word gun But what really happened is even funnier police say there was never a gun but some nearby businesses went into lockdown Locked down our doors and it was a little scary at first but then when we saw people kind of leisurely hanging outside of the theater we kind of realized it wasn't as big of a

1:44:37 So what do you think happened? Let me tell you a couple of things here first. Did you notice in the last clip and this clip both of them had some dingbat woman. And then one time it banned him. This is again to propagandize the females of this country to vote Democrat. That's correct. You put the women up there and then they express themselves and everyone goes oh yes she's right. She's right. Better to be safe than sorry. Vote Democrat So what do you think actually happened in this theater? I don't know is some guy was I don't know. I mean I have a lot of lewd thoughts Well, you're your lewd thought may be close. Here's the final eight seconds of this report Officers say the whole thing started after a man urinated on a teenager in the back of the theater Funny

1:45:34 What a great story. Him, stop pissing on me. This is not okay. And somehow that led to Gun. Yeah, that's Gun. Gun, Gun, Gun. Wow. You gotta love it. That's just funny. Then I have actually an email that came in from one of our producers in school. And we love it when we have the kids not having any of this crap. Adam, today my class had the displeasure of being talked to by a visiting AT&T employee regarding the company's It Can Wait campaign involving texting while driving. You may want to read along if you want. ItCanWait.com is the website.

1:46:24 To start off the ad, the employee showed us an absurd and absolutely terribly produced documentary and then proceeded to pass out no text on board stickers for our cars which coincidentally almost had bigger AT&T logos on them than the messaging itself. To my horror, some students were so impacted that they asked for a second sticker. After the sticker fiasco, we were told to pull out our phones and go to AT&T's website where we were supposed to take some retarded online pledge. As if it couldn't get any worse, we were then directed to sign a massive AT&T logo-covered banner to then be photographed by the employee to quote, take back to AT&T. After the whole ordeal, we were shown more poorly made films smothered with AT&T signage.

1:47:19 What makes me happy is that I listen to the best podcast in the universe, is that at a certain point in the documentary some girl whispered to me, I'm trying not to cry. Oh my God. The irony was I was trying not to laugh in the morning. Now that is a producer. That is the youth of America. You've got to turn that girl around. It's just a flipper. Flip? You got a flipper. It has more than one meaning, the Adam Curry sense of things. Absolutely. We won't talk about it. The documentary is like 37 minutes long. Have you seen this? ItCanWait.com? No, I'll watch it though, but I will take some clips from it. There's got to be some subtle stuff in there to get you to buy more AT&Ts. So there was a special report that one of the networks ran

1:48:07 on the and I think this is hilarious because it actually revealed some interesting facts and I took four parts of this and this is the sexualization of little girls mostly though the sexualization of like 14 year olds because It's 2013 and the big depression is going to hit in 2017. So you give them a four years, they'll be 14 now, they'll be 18 in 2017, 19 or if they're like 13 years old, they'll be, you know, 17, 18 and whatever, just in time to become hookers. So, uh, You want to work a mohawk. Wait, so this is a government hooker program? Is that what you're saying? Well, no, it's just a societal thing, but it's actually the corporations that are somewhat behind it. Yeah. And I just have a great conclusion, but let's play parts of these little things. Let's start with the beginning, which is the sexualization of girls part one. The only thing I'd like to do is I'd like to set this up properly with a jingle. Is that okay? Oh yeah, hit it.

1:49:10 The sexualization of seemingly ever younger girls in the name of art or fashion or advertising offends much of the public and gives parents valid cause for concern and yet the trend shows no sign of abating. The latest scandal spans the Atlantic from the pages of French Vogue to a provocative t-shirt produced by an American retailer popular with teens. Here is ABC's Dan Harris. This young woman here posed in a supremely provocative manner on the back of a motorcycle and then here on a skateboard with a six-pack of beer dangling from her hand. This young woman was just 15 years old when these pictures were taken.

1:50:04 Her name is Haley Clawson. She is now 16 and her parents have now filed a $28 million lawsuit against Urban Outfitters, which sold these t-shirts with her picture on them, and the photographer who took the picture, Jason Lee Perry. Is she showing anything? Is she showing any private parts? That's the real question. Now if that was the case, I I completely understand. Perry says the pictures were published in a magazine and posted on Haley's own Facebook page, but he didn't hear from the parents for a year and a half until they filed their lawsuit. In it, they say they did not consent to the use of the image. They call it salacious and X-rated. Well, I didn't see it that way, and I think if people do, I think it's kind of bad on them, because I look at it and I think, this is a really cool shot.

1:50:52 Yeah, yeah, shot is the right word. So the one picture of the girl, she's like, she's a, she looks like a model anyway. She's very attractive and it's kind of a youngish, sexy, uh, of course she's smoking. Yeah, of course. I guess. So she's got her legs, she's got, she's wearing it shorts, but she got her legs spread. You know, in a kind of a welcoming position. Yes. And so it goes on. So now we have, of course, this is some, they're going to get nowhere with this lawsuit. She was posting her own pictures on her Facebook page, you know, because she wants to become professional or whatever. So now we start to get some explanations from this that don't quite hit the mark, but it becomes more funny, the story. This story lands smack in the middle of a global spasm of controversy over the sexualization of young girls.

1:51:40 And this is the poster child, if you will, a 10-year-old girl named Tylenne Blondeau, who provoked an uproar when she graced the pages of French Vogue, jutting her hip out suggestively here and here, wearing lipstick and an updo, lying face down on a tiger. The blogs erupted with some writers calling the pictures creepy and worse. When you see pictures like this, what do you think? I think that I'm seeing a very young girl being sexualized, being gazed at in a very adult way. The girl's mother said, my daughter's not even naked, let's not exaggerate. It is possible that people might not be so upset if this were just an isolated incident. But these days, famous underage actresses are getting in on the act. 13-year-old Elle Fanning has her sultry stare down Pat in these Marc Jacobs ads.

1:52:34 And Haley Steinfeld from the movie True Grit in these Miu Miu ads looks, according to one observer, like a child bride. Although she's called these pictures sophisticated and timeless. What's driving this do you think? I think we're seeing more parents that are vehemently dedicated to making their children famous. So I think parents, mothers and fathers alike, are not necessarily turned off by someone coming to them and wanting their child to appear a certain way. at younger and younger ages. I've seen these pictures and I remember it disturbed me. The pictures of the girl in Vogue? Yeah! They showed them on the show and I'm looking at her saying, what is the world? It's disturbing. This is like the pageant girls, essentially. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I disagree. It is not like toddlers in tiaras.

1:53:24 it is they are dressed like like you know vamps you know and they're they're hookers yeah well but there was there there is also there's a scene i didn't i think i might have to throw up just thinking about it it was and the way you look at it's like Oh my god, if she was 17 or 18, you'd be like, that's smoking hot. But she's 10! Yeah, I know, it's ludicrous. It's sick. It's actually dumb. I'm sorry, it's fashion. It's host control. But they have a scene with this woman and her 12-year-old. I wish I could... you probably had to see it. and she's talking to her 12 year old, there's a lot of stuff in this, this is a long report so I only clipped a few things. She's talking to her daughter, she says, I don't think that's age appropriate and the girl is a 12 year old with absolutely no, obviously it was just

1:54:12 persuaded by mass media, which is like really the sick part of the whole thing, that's the sickest part, to thinking that this outfit she was wearing was even remotely, I don't think it was appropriate for anybody, it was a horrible looking outfit. And she's arguing for it. It was just like wow, this poor mom, because the girl was obviously just taken in by whatever. So but here's what it really is all about. They are being taken in, just wait for the number In clip 3 there's a number, there's a number. This number is huge. Play clip 3. But there is something else driving the sexualization of girls in our popular culture. Corporations who are keenly aware that tweens, girls between the ages of 8 and 12, have $43 billion a year to spend on clothing, beauty products, books, entertainment and more.

1:55:02 In recent months, Abercrombie & Fitch had to pull its padded bikini tops for girls as young as 8 after a public outcry. A French company selling lingerie, get it? Sounds like lingerie, for girls as young as 4 had to defend its products as innovative and unexpected. And an American company selling babykinis for girls as young as 3 months old came out to say that its products were just for fun. No wonder we're going broke. We're targeting the wrong audience. We need the tweens. 43 billion dollars? Billion? Really? So this is this, when I heard that number and I realized, and by the way the last clip has another insight for even more billions. When I heard the numbers I realized that what they've done is they've

1:55:50 you know they can't sell kids toys anymore because there's all these you know you can't you know there's all these restrictions on on we're talking eight-year-olds here yeah on what you can do on sunday morning cartoon shows yeah there's a big outcry oh these poor kids are being exploited right which is true but it was actually i always believed that the kids At least my kids, they would watch this stuff and they would be talked into buying some piece of crap. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What we were talked into was buying the Froot Loops with the plastic toy inside. Well, that too. That's what I remember. Well, I remember the kids, there'd be some G.I. Joe thing or some crazy thing that looked really good. It was like these little flying helicopters or something. And you knew it was a piece of junk. And so you'd give in.

1:56:41 At least to the biggest piece of junk you could find. This was my trick. And you'd get, okay, you really want that? Okay, okay, you gotta do some chores and whatever. You get him the gift. Do some work, slave. Do some work. Then you get him the thing and it's a piece of crap. It breaks right away. And then you go into it. So this piece of crap, which I said was a piece of crap, I might add, This is what you want, this is what you got. Now just start thinking about these ads more. You know, you're talking to a little kid. But think about it, these people are trying to rip you off. So, they eventually get a clue. But this is a more sinister thing. Now the funny thing is... Well, what's sinister is they're trying to accelerate these kids into an older age group where they're selling something different. Right.

1:57:34 Tell me if you could figure out what they're going to end up selling him in the long run when you play part four. All this corporate porn, as some critics call it, can make it very tough for parents like Diane Goldie when they go out shopping with their daughters. I don't really like it. I don't know. It's just not a young person's outfit, really. It's even tough for parents like Madonna, who, as a younger woman, made parents squirm. When she writhed around singing about being a virgin, now the international one-name superstar has some pretty regular parental concern. We have arguments about how short the skirt is.

1:58:16 You know, is there cleavage? As psychological experts survey today's landscape with even child stars like Miley Cyrus and high school musicals Ashley Tisdale sexing up their images, they worry that our culture and our corporations are stealing girls' childhoods. The American Psychological Association says girls exposed to too much sexual imagery are more likely to be unhappy with their bodies and to suffer from depression or low self-esteem. Oh, thank goodness. It's the pharmaceutical industry. Hello. Always. Nice. Nice job, guys.

1:58:51 And this is and this is exactly what and we how many times we covered this whenever there's a suicide Some kid was bullied because they were you know gay or because they were unpopular and there's suicide Lo and behold there's always the same lawyers from the same firms who are there to distract attention away from the fact that these kids were on some kind of antidepressant or psychotropic drug and Yeah, it always happens. Oh my god. This is so sickening. No agenda show. They get kicked to the crotch. We need more kid jingles. That's for sure. That's gonna sell the show. All right, John. Very good report. Very good. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

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2:05:23 You know, it's not like we have a huge back office. Our, you know, our, our guys live in a trailer. Yeah, I heard this baffled by it because it came into the spreadsheet oddly. I think it was just some sort of a follow-up we didn't catch. But that's also, sometimes PayPal is a little wonky too, you know. Well actually, I would say that because Gina Smith, you know, because I write for her new domain. Aren't you a co-founder of that? Yes, I'm a co-founder of the new domain. Call yourself a co-founder, it's fine. She says, I mean, that seems a bit much. She says that, uh, She wants to be a producer of the show on behalf of this website. Right. $200 like a couple times a month and she's told me that she had put this in PayPal and it didn't show up at all. So I don't know. I haven't even seen a Gina Smith donation. Well, we'll have to find out what happens. She may be donating it to Leo. This would be bad.

2:06:23 No, I because I I like what she's doing because whenever you write a kick-ass article then she'll tweet Oh, she goes crazy, and she's actually a major Super tweet. I mean she's just is she is she kind of hot let me say she's always been pretty She used to be on ABC, and that's what she's Right right now. She is she is sexy. She has a huge following of nerds that think she's the hottest thing ever and She has great at retweeting. She also just has a cute face. I'm a face guy personally. It's cute Alright, I read I retweet and you know, I want to help you guys in your adventure there. I think it's a good idea

2:07:02 Well, you know I got a you know you got to write somewhere and I get nobody else publish publish the stuff you're writing I know it's a good co-founder I can write about how to build a hot dog and that's yes too bad That was good. By the way. I liked your hot dog story hot dog story was I liked it, too All right for everybody. I'm sorry for everybody who donated LG Y and a karma for those you don't know hashtag LG Y little girl Yay is what that's all about You've got nice nice nice nice for all of you driving around and you don't know it yet wake up You're supposed to do it three times a show that was the third time and it's funny because you do that and like Skype like Completely throws up on you. It's funny. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't know what to do with a sit. Yeah, I

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2:08:56 And of course we have a big shout out to sometimes part-time worker and and certainly Analyst of the no agenda show buzzkill jr. Celebrating today. Happy birthday from your buddies here the best podcast in the universe Let me ask you a question about that John whenever it's my daughter's birthday and she hates it when I do this I Tell her the story of how she was born Tell us the story about Buzzkill Jr. He was born in a house in Oakland. At home? Yeah, he had a home birth. Well, that's it? Yeah, that's about it. And then he grew up and now he's a coder who does JavaScript. And makes more money than his old man. He makes a lot of money. Yeah, I know. But, you know, it's still a sketchy business.

2:09:55 and by the way i think you missed a little kicker on that yeah we're trying to turn our daughters into hookers for the great depression and then get them strung out on drugs i mean this is like the worst scenario so that so we've never seen another way you know it i haven't missed it because then The money still goes to the established elites. Oh yeah, no, the money. It's all about the money. And these drugs, man, the stuff that they've got. So did you get that email from the guy, one of our producers, who was talking about Adderall and that he said it's just 100% amphetamine speed? Yeah, he says it's Black Beauty. Black Beauty, that's what it was. Yeah, Black Beauty. Yeah, he says it's called biphetamines.

2:10:40 And I don't know that this is true. When I read that, I was going to look into it, so I wasn't prepared to discuss it. But if Adderall's just a combination of amphetamines... It says amphetamine on the bottle. Does it really? Yeah. Well, that's distressing. It just says amphetamine. It's not even an S. It just says amphetamine. The one that I've seen, which is brand name Adderall. Oh, is that what you finally ordered? No, no, no, man. What do you mean from the Silk Road? Yeah, no, no. Do I sound strung out? Are you strung out? No. Do I sound it? I mean, when I used to be a pothead, the show wasn't all that different, was it? Actually, everybody says it was. I don't believe that for a second. No, JC does, Mimi does. Did they like it? Did they like it more then? Do they think it was better?

2:11:35 because I'll start smoking again. Some of our old timers thought it was sometimes better because of the international aspect of the show. Well that I agree with and that's why it's always good when we travel and we continue to do the show it certainly spices it up gives us new injection of information we do that but I mean But here's what my thought is. Based on the kind of feedback we've been getting over the last, I'd say, six months in terms of show qualities, and the kind of analysis that you've been doing mostly, I've done some, but you do the real deep analysis on actual paperwork.

2:12:15 And and and you come up with conclusions and we sometimes modify the conclusions when we discuss them I think there's there's no comparison right to the quality of the show that we're currently producing Compared to the old show are really flailing and we were just developing what are what we were figuring it out going to be yeah We were figuring it out, and we're doing it. Yeah, no I and I think I agree with you, but it but if you want we can certainly do a test and Yeah, if you want to get stoned. I can get baked and we can do the show. Hey man, whoa. I've been using stuff for so long, I'm not sure I want to do this again. I've never, but I never would talk like that. I would never talk like that, ever. Oh man.

2:12:59 I also I don't think I could smoke this the stuff that they're doing today man. Oh It's horrible. It's like the shoot yourself. We had to like, you know, toke, you know, like a whole doobie In fact, we called them doobies. He had to choke a whole doobie to get stone Yeah it around and they go around and around and around and then you people get you know, start listening to music. Yeah Special stuff they have for these men little marijuana guys. Yeah, take one But this stuff and you might as well shoot you, you're done. Well no, you actually can shoot yourself and you won't feel it. Yeah, that's for sure. So here I'm looking at the drugs.com site Adderall. Yeah. Derrick name amphetamine and dextroamphetamine. What?

2:13:42 That's all it is? Yeah, it's just amphetamine. That's what I'm telling you. So it's benzadrine? Yeah, benzadrine, right. And dexedro...dexes. Dexes and bennies. And by the way, I'd like to say... That's terrible. I think Thursday's show, for people who are like, we had more crackpot when you were stoned, I think Thursday's show with the ELF and the remote neural monitoring, I think we were pretty out there. The problem is, it doesn't sound so crackpot anymore. That's the problem. It's like even you were like, yeah, well, it's certainly plausible. Yeah, I mean on some of this stuff. Yeah, I'm just not in on the car that goes around

2:14:18 running off of water. I have a couple of titles in a knighthood here that we got to do so I want to do this Sir Tim Tillman becomes baronet of Central Virginia that is FEMA region 3 congratulations Sir Tim and thank you for your continued support of the best podcast in the universe and we have a Michael Siegenthaler he had a special request as for his knighthood so first we're going to draw the swords and cross them Come on Michael Siegenthaler, step forward! Very happy of course to give you your long overdue knighting.

2:14:54 as you have deserved that due to your support of the best podcast in the universe. I hereby pronounce the Sir Skits Night of the Noah's Dinner Roundtable for you, sir, as requested. Three geishas and a bucket of fried chicken. I'll take the Rempoys and Chardonnay today. Thank you very much. Thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe. And we will need your help again, not just yours specifically, SirSkits, but everybody for our Thursday show. Remember that. I thought we had two nightings, no? No, I have Sir Tim Tillman became baronet of Central Virginia. Did I miss something? Let me double check.

2:15:39 Tillman and what about oh you get you got Tillman like but yeah, but Tillman he changed to a baronet But does he is he the guy that didn't get knighted? Me now you're confusing me. No. I don't think so yeah. I think he's a guy didn't get knighted well. Holy crap Tim Tillman step forward Wow This is really bad, but there you go. It's our system. Our back office is in a trailer. Sir Tim, thank you for your extra, extra special support of the NOAJENDA show. Black Knight, Black Knight. We hereby pronounce thee Sir Tim Tillman, Black Knight and Baronet of Central Virginia and of the NOAJENDA Roundtable.

2:16:28 All right, I'll give you the rent boys and chardonnay unless you want the wenches and beer or the Rubin s woman and rosé and maybe It'll just be the hookers and blow there you go I need a little more info Eric next time we do that and we give me the things Because you know I can't remember stuff during the show. It's a little hard. This is true You have to be I've told everyone that you have to be scripted when it comes to these sorts of details well I mean you know because when did something happens in the in the spreadsheet and You know, it's not like I have, you know, it's like we're doing stuff. Yeah, and you know, by the way, I need to, I need to point this out. We make this shit look easy, people. Okay? It's just, it's not automatic. It's not like we're on autopilot. People are like, oh, it's a great show to listen to. There's a lot going on. My hands are always busy. And somebody, well, that's beside the point.

2:17:19 As somebody pointed out, I need an in the morning once in a while for some of these great ones. Yes you do. As somebody pointed out, this show sounds good. Yeah, and it's funny because we also have audio engineers and lots of people who are very critical. You know, of course I'm working on the Ultimate Podcast device which actually enables better shows on the road, I feel. And we had the show in Los Angeles, I'm in a hotel room, and you know, and people, and it was very nice because this producer said, hey man, I heard a little click, and once I heard the click with the noise gate, I couldn't unhear it, it was really annoying. He wasn't complaining, but he was just saying, you know, I heard, and I wrote back, I said,

2:18:03 Yeah, you're right, but you know it's also I'm not in the studio. You know I'm plugging into a hotel Wi-Fi network I'm sitting in the corner. It's astonishing that we can do this show I mean I and I have to do you know I have three machines I have to set one up as a Wi-Fi access point and do port forward It's a whole bunch of stuff that goes down that has become kind of automatic for us But just so you know it's not you listen go and we've done this you've done this but you listen to other podcasts And you'll hear the difference It's, you know... And also, the way you, and I'll give you the props, John, you understand the technical aspect of what's happening, and then you will play along and you know how to adapt to the situation. It's hard for me to explain what you're doing, but people don't know, you know, when even little time delays, all kinds of things. You know, this is... Damn it, we're just professionals.

2:19:01 God just getting by yeah, I step on the end of your lines once in a while just because of the timing Yeah, I know it's gonna be a short leg. Okay, so I've got this clip. I don't know what to make of this yet I just first identified it. I noticed a logo and there's a there's a Strange group of people behind it sounds like a good operation, but you never know about some of these things play the team Rubicon Rubicon clip. Members of a unique disaster relief group are using skills from the battlefield to help Colorado residents dig out and clean up. Team Rubicon is made up of military veterans who respond to disaster areas in the U.S. and around the world. The veterans say they appreciate being able to use their military training to help rebuild lives. Of course the mentality is served.

2:19:47 of all times, of everything, serve your country. So being here, it's easy to come home and serve your people, which is our community. So it's nice to come home and help people out that are close to home. This is kind of interesting. Yeah, and you can't find out who's behind it. This is what bothers me. But you do find the Clinton initiative having something to do with this. Team RWB, a group I've never heard of, go to the Team Rubicon, teamrubiconusa.org, and then hit the button you want to go to is our partners... Teamrubiconusa.org? Yeah, what are these like vigilantes or something? No, no, no, no, there's some no. No, I don't know what it is That's what I'm saying. So I'm bringing it up the story. Mm-hmm join serve and deploy bridge the gap Wow Yeah, now go to go to the identity and then click on sponsors and partners because you can't find out who's running this thing This is the closest you're gonna get identity. They also have regions and they have regions are all and I think well, let's see Wait, let's see where region 9 is and see if that's California and Nevada and the rest. I

2:20:50 Let me see what's region. I'm region six here. Right the same as fema regions exactly let me check region six Let me see if I'm in regions. Yes, I'm region six interesting So there's some kick wait a minute What is this now go to sponsors and partners and read out loud for the listeners read out loud? All right, go get their goal zero Now read out the logo They get this crazy logo which is on the back of all these Rubicon people. Wait, wait, wait, I don't see, I'm, I'm, I see, I meant our partners and sponsors. Yeah, on the right there's a, there's a little thing that says what's with the name, what's with the logo. Okay, what's with the logo? The team Rubicon logo consists primarily of a cross turned on its side with the river flowing through it.

2:21:37 The cross represents the traditional symbol of medical aid. It is on its side because Team Rubicon represents such a departure from the current paradigm in disaster response. The river flowing through the cross represents the gap that exists between large natural disasters and conventional aid response. Team Rubicon serves to bridge this gap, providing field triage and relief operations until large aid organizations and nations can provide definitive care. Wow. Well, come on. Who are who this is El Segundo, California. And there's all you look at the big logos up there. There's goal zero team RWB, which is a sinister looking kind of NRA logo. Clinton Initiative. Google. How about the Home Depot? Home Depot? Yeah, well, they could Goldman Goldman Sachs. Oh, yeah. Palanitier, which is that's the NSA thing. Urban America. Jeez.

2:22:39 Planets are as interesting as geomapping technology allows team Rubicon to effectively identify work zones Yeah, come on. Don't I mean is this a nonprofit or well? This is the thing you can't figure it out. Oh, this is okay You just ruined the rest of my week. I figured that's why I did that geez I'm have to be all over this this is crazy identity What happens if you just do a, hold on a second, if you do a lookup? Oh, Judy Linklater. Who? One of the media, we've heard of her before. Doug Dome, I got some names finally. Kristen Robinson. Let's see, whoisteamrubiconusa.org. Let's just see if there's anything on the Whois record. Sometimes that's where they

2:23:28 Yeah, that's a con Burbank. I just stumbled onto this last night So said ah this is interesting because it was good for this report Jacob Wood has registered. That's really interesting John Okay, we're gonna have to look into that social donate Media something getting veterans off the streets or something not sure Jake Wood is the co-founder and president of Team Rubicon and he is can be his profile it can be always also on LinkedIn I'll go check that I do that do that. He's the he's on the Profiled in this website idea mench idea mench I think oh yeah, here it is here's team Rubicon engages veterans interesting

2:24:21 Hundreds of US military veterans return many returning home after fighting 10 years of war find a renewed sense of purpose for their skills and experiences through Team Rubicon. Okay, well, this is something we got to look into for sure. Yeah, it might be a good thing. It might not but if the Clinton operations involved, I don't like it. No, I don't. We're not liking any of it, but we'll see. Interesting. I do need to bring us back just a second to what happened at the the naval shipyard. Okay, yeah, I think that is I got nothing new on that Yeah, I think I have a couple things so the New York Times ran a story headline did antidepressants play a role in Navy Yard massacre Who's the one who said ambien we said ambien you said ambien the drug? reportedly prescribed was trazodone

2:25:19 Trace a dome and trace a dome. I haven't even looked it up. He are a Z or Zed o D o n e Trace a dome. Let's look this one up meat. Well while you're looking that up I'm gonna play a little clip of this because as as we've had in the Red Book for a long time This has now turned into a full-blown war on crazy President Obama and the first lady will attend a memorial service tomorrow for the 12 people who were killed in Monday's Washington Navy Yard massacre As we've learned more this week about the shooter, Aaron Alexis, the image of a young mind suffering from mental illness is taking shape. And when the conversation again turns to gun violence, startling misperceptions about mental health in America are also being revealed. According to a recent Gallup poll, Americans believe mental illness is more of a culprit in gun violence than access to guns themselves. Even as studies show that a majority of mentally ill patients are not violent.

2:26:17 Ironically, during what could be a moment to have a very real conversation about the need to increase access to mental health care services and the stigmas that are associated with it, some are using this issue to talk on safety but try to stay on the NRA's good side. And not surprisingly, many of these same people are doing everything they can to defund the Affordable Care Act, which would do more to provide access to mental health care services in America than ever before. According to a 2010 government study, about 40% of the 11.4 million adults with serious mental illness... Listen to these numbers. 40%, 11.2 million Americans with serious, serious mental health issues. What are these serious mental health issues? ...went untreated. And the top two reasons were inability to afford mental health care and the stigma of admitting psychiatric illness and seeking help.

2:27:12 By recognizing that mental health and addiction should be treated like any other illness, we actually could begin to remove the stigma and the shame. But some in the media, they aren't- What kind of a report is this? Well, it's basically a set up to slam Fox. Listen. Alan said we need to decrease the stigma around mental illness. The opposite is true. Certain forms of mental illness, I'm not talking depression or PTSD, but paranoid schizophrenia, we need to increase the stigma, which is to say we need to make it really clear this could become dangerous. I pretend like it's not dangerous. I have paranoid schizophrenia. That's what conspiracy theories are all about. That's what they say. Yeah. I would never turn my back on you.

2:27:55 No, I'd never turn my back on you either, but the might flip out. What is going? Thanks, what is going to happen and uh, you know, this is I don't know if it's in the red book I want to say it again. In fact How do you like that one, huh? Yeah, actually like that one. Yeah, we have another one actually play I'll play the other one after I make the prediction again So first it's going to be access to guns Then it's going to be well, you know You we've prescribed this antidepressant for you. You probably shouldn't be driving I mean, it's really kind of not a good idea and then it'll be well, you know We really don't want you around children, you know So really you shouldn't be out and about and then you'll be wearing like a yellow star on your jacket I'm telling you this is what's gonna happen. I Like the first one better actually

2:28:56 I think they're both good. Yeah, well we're keeping them both because I think they're dynamite. That's our producers ladies and gentlemen, that's how they roll. I don't know, you know, I'll have to think about this. This is definitely, I still think, I'm going to base everything on just turning more women into Democrats. Well, it's always the women. They're very sympathetic and they're always, oh, now the latest thing is, oh, the Republicans are trying to kill Obamacare. Yeah. Oh, those horrible Republicans. How could anyone with children even think of voting for a Republican? Did you hear what the president said regarding this? So the whole thing about raising the debt ceiling and this really isn't important.

2:29:38 This has been analyzed to death and this is all that the heads are talking about on so-called cable news and news in general And the idea is we're going to go through this whole show again if we're not we're going to you know not raise the debt ceiling Because you know that way we can defund Obamacare. That's all theater The president though has said some interesting things. He said, well we've done this a hundred times, it's raising of the debt ceiling since the 50s, which of course he's basically saying we're gonna, it'll be fine, we're gonna do it again, this is just the same old dog and pony show we always go through. And then he's saying well but you know this doesn't actually raise our deficit, it's just paying for the bills we've already racked up and everyone's you know yelling about that. But the thing that gets me

2:30:25 is how he brings this message and he's basically telling you you are stupid you're a stupid stupid citizen now this debt ceiling I just want to remind people in case you haven't been keeping up maybe you haven't been keeping up because you know you're dumb raising the debt ceiling which has been done over a hundred times does not increase our debt it does not somehow promote profligacy All it does is it says, whoa, you had another big word. You gotta pay the bills that you've already racked up, Congress. Here it comes. It's a basic function of making sure that the full faith and credit of the United States is preserved. And I've heard people say, well, in the past there have been negotiations around raising the debt ceiling. It's always a tough vote because the average person thinks raising the debt ceiling must mean that we're running up our debt. Average person? Oh, I'm sorry.

2:31:31 I'm sorry I'm not a constitutional law professor, I'm just an average person. That is so condescending. Am I... Yeah, he's a condescending guy. I really despise that. Yeah, I can tell it bugs you. So we have to admit to a couple of things here that they don't want to talk about. Of course, we just went through the charade two years ago and the government has actually had a showdown where they stopped, you know, they didn't raise the debt ceiling, they shut down the government for a while during the Clinton administration. It was shut down completely and it was a big deal I guess for a few days and then they finally somebody knuckled under and they changed a few things and the debt ceiling is a bogus

2:32:17 creation anyway. The debt ceiling was put in place because we kept getting our debts higher and higher and higher and somebody came along with the idea and I think it was bipartisan which was similar to this crazy thing where they set up a committee and if there's no committee the committee couldn't come to a conclusion they'd have a sequester or sequester right and that was another bogus thing they created. They brought it on themselves and I had to blame the president for this too. But the debt ceiling thing is just a bogus creation that was done to hopefully prevent the debt from getting, you know, going out of control. But it has been raised on it because it's bull crap. We don't have, you know, the debt ceiling shouldn't even be there and we wouldn't be having these

2:32:57 phony baloney arguments constantly and you just have to live with the you know the consequences of mismanagement which is what's going on anyway. I do think that there's a new version of the script this time because the president keeps saying I will not debate the full faith and credit of the United States which is a constant which is constitutional language. Is it not the 14th amendment? I'm not sure. Well, the full faith and credit of the United States shall not be questioned. So if I were to write the script, because that's what it is, it's just another script playing out, I would have the Republicans shut down the government and then the president open it up again under executive order as a constitutional move.

2:33:48 That would be the script I'd like to see. I think that would be kind of funny. Faith and credit clauses in Article 4, Section 1 is right in the Constitution. Oh, that's what I meant. Article 4, Section 1. Right, it's not even an amendment. It's part of the basic legal... No, no, it would make sense. It's not an amendment. Right. Whatever the case. Yeah, I know that would be a good bluff. I mean, calling everybody's bluff because we... as somebody pointed out, the amount of income that we have coming in from taxes Does pay the bills yes, it just doesn't pay these increases You know we have all these increases, and they want to keep spend more money It won't pay for that, but it pays the normal bills and it pay and it keeps the there's no way of going bankrupt It's not gonna happen because there's more money coming in then there's going out for that purpose right but for all this new stuff and people always in the and all these talking heads ignore this this is all about the increases and

2:34:43 Let's add to this program, let's send a bunch of ships over to Syria. Yeah. Let's launch some, let's send some missiles, let's blow up a 1.5 million dollar missile for no good reason. Yeah. Nice. Anyways, it's, so this is bogus. I didn't get any clips about it. I'm not even interested in knowing this process. I didn't do it either. That's the only reason I brought this in, is because that just made me angry. Like we're too stupid to understand, really? Good news though, although nothing new to the NOAgenda listener and producer, a big big article in the Daily Mail and it's, everyone was emailing this like we didn't know, Bill Clinton's former mistress Jennifer Flowers has come, and I think she already did this interview, I remember this, she came out and said Bill said that Hillary is bisexual, duh,

2:35:41 This was, I didn't know this was published. Yeah, it's in the Daily Mail. And Bill said it? Bill actually said, the way it was, the quote is Bill said, Hillary's had more pussy than I have. Oh, this is bullcrap. But that's what's published. Yeah, that's the Daily Mail. I mean, I can imagine Bill saying that to somebody over a beer. But I'd already heard this story. This is part of the Hillary 2016, let's discredit everything we can do. This is old. This, I remember this from maybe years ago I've heard this. Yeah, I've heard this sort of thing commonly. It's like, okay, I mean, I was listening to Thom Hartman and he's got one pitch that he's pretty good at, which is the, although I'm not agreeing with any of it, about how we should change the Constitution so you can't give money to political candidates essentially. Right. And he,

2:36:41 He talked about Citizens United, which initially, which everybody's all up in arms about supposedly, but I don't think it's a bogus argument too because it allows anyone to spend money any way they want. Large corporations want to spend, they're going to do it anyway. But he pointed out that it was all based, the whole thing came about to the Supreme Court because it was based on a hit piece they were doing on Hillary so they get Obama to get elected because there's a lot of people that really are fearful of Hillary getting in. Now we've had it from a lot of sources that we know in the Virginia area that there's no way she's going to get elected. Something's going to happen but

2:37:23 I don't believe that anymore. I've always believed... Wait a minute, what sources are you referring to? You talked about this one when you were doing the... Oh, that the Secret Service guys were all pissed off and they would not let it happen? You mean that? Yes, that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we will... that remains to be seen. I agree. No, look, first of all, stop the presses. I... when I go to bed at night, I pray that Hillary Clinton will become president because I need to make a living and you know watermelon head Kerry is okay he's getting funnier you know he brought us Marie Harf and stuff but really

2:38:01 President Hillary Clinton is my dream for this show. Yeah, it'd be great unless they shot us. So, well, so within the Tom Hartman rant, there was this little, somebody pointed this out, they sent it in, one of our producers, but it's the black guy named Muhammad part of the clip, which is funny. Yeah, no, I'm glad you got this. Because they wanted Obama to be the candidate because they thought that a black guy whose middle name was Muhammad, that they're Hussein rather. That's pretty funny. Yeah, he has one funny one funny very good Yeah, I was thinking of taking Pete bigger piece, but I said no that's all he needs that that's enough That's enough. I want to say in the morning or actually I would say To our get my nation Deutschland they I don't know if the polls have closed, but they're voting I

2:38:53 We'll see if Herr Merkel stays in if she has to change her deal. Well yeah, but she might have to have a new coalition. That could be interesting. I haven't gotten any results or early polling numbers yet. Yeah, it looks like she's going to. Oh, I'm sure she's going to win, but who's she going to be with is what's going to be interesting. Yeah, it'll be interesting. Yeah, I agree. And this was a pretty cool article. This came from The Local, which is a German publication. It's in English. the local.de and it talks about the booming market in cyber insurance.

2:39:32 That's an angle. We hadn't looked at we have looked at all of this Snowden stuff as you know Lots of consultants coming in lots of bullcrap stuff you need that you don't need you're gonna have to buy all kinds of you know Firewall thingies, but really the big money right now is being made in companies and apparently private individuals Who are now buying cyber? threat cyber damage insurance and Oh you know the funny thing is this is not a bunch probably close to a decade ago with John Quartermain or Quartermain who is uh he wrote the book called The Matrix Computer Networks and Conferencing Systems and it was it was an old his early book from 1990 that described the way the network was set up and he was working for a company an insurance company that was that was

2:40:26 work that was setting these sorts of things up and this is a long time ago so i think it's just it was a long-term project but was to ensure you against you know your company gets attacked in all your stuff you know you get now you have insurance i think and this is a new it's just i think it's just re-emerging i think that this this is a potentially huge uh... you know to be part of your homeowners insurance the question is what really will constitute you know damage And and and how will it be proven and I think that was the problem in the first place? I don't know. I don't know how they're gonna do this hmm, so I have a clip People always say well, you know if a lot of things won't happen if there's everyone was armed Yeah, that would be kind of my my thesis Yeah, and and I also see it as that if you have two douchebags with guns You kind of get a funny result out of it. Here's the shootout clip over tailgating

2:41:26 Two men in Michigan shot at each other in a road rage fueled gun battle. Witnesses say one robber got upset that the other was falling too closely so he pulled into a parking lot and that's when the second car followed and that is when angry words turned into deadly actions. A confrontation took place outside the vehicle and handguns were eventually drawn and shots were exchanged. Both of the subjects held valid concealed pistol licenses. Both men were shot and killed police are nothing who fired the first shot, but with a tailgating first well it works system system works I Love it. I don't know why it's sick, but I found that story to be quite amusing. I like it I'd like it. Let me just do this real quick John No agenda

2:42:24 Just to get it out, because otherwise it won't make any sense. Two quick notes regarding the hit songs, the top 40 hit songs I keep hearing in my head that I believe are being put there. Producer Pim says, you know, this is really weird. When you said Steely Dan reeling in the years, it slightly shocked me because that song has been in my head this week as well. I was wondering what it was doing there, since it's old and I don't even like it. So he's not sure but he heard it before I mentioned it and then Producer James says just a thought, you know Maybe you were programmed to hook up with miss Mickey and she's an operative of so for some agency really like we didn't know that Oh, yeah, he says that always says who planned the Hot Pockets route through Utah in the first place where the music started and

2:43:24 The pancakes, he said, the pancakes are one half of a binary trigger and John is also likely involved. You know, I'm laughing, but I'm not really laughing. It's all possible. I think the pancakes being a binary trigger is interesting. I like it. I like these theories. It makes nothing but sense to me. Nothing but sense. Who planned the trip through Utah? Who planned that? Who planned the desert trip when it all started, huh? Mm-hmm. You got anything to play us out big boy? Or is that it? Let's see if there's anything. I got this, well we got the black out of it. There's more shootings in Chicago. Here's a funny story. Harvard wants more money.

2:44:17 Thank you, Dirk. Harvard University has set an ambitious goal to raise more than $6 billion over the next five years. It's the biggest fundraising campaign launched by a university. A university official says almost $3 billion has already been raised, but the fundraising goal for 2018 remains $6.5 billion. The university says it plans to use the money to expand research and teaching in several departments, as well as to renovate some dorms. Harvard's endowment at the end of the last fiscal year was just less than $31 billion. Holy crap! They got like a nest egg like Microsoft. $31 billion and... And they want another six. For what? That's what I'm wondering. What is the point of all that? I don't understand how this... This is out of control.

2:45:07 finally the there's more there's one more which is the suspect cycling killing An annual bicycle ride along the New England coastline turned tragic after a car hit four cyclists, killing two of them. The crash happened this morning on a two-lane bridge in Hampton, New Hampshire. Two women from Massachusetts were killed. Two other riders were hurt. Investigators say a 20-year-old woman was driving southbound and crossed into the northbound lane for some reason, hitting the cyclists. Authorities have not said whether the driver will be charged.

2:45:44 Okay, it's assassination. That's yeah, no kidding Boston breaks Anyway, that's all I speaking of Boston the report that is due Of the marathon bombing has been delayed indefinitely. Oh wow that's Stuns me and this is from the intelligence community inspectors general forum update yeah no we do we do we don't have stories and they will never see them the movie of the guy putting the whole thing is just that's very that's the thing I would thank you for reminding me the thing we want to see we'd like to see the video of one of the Sarnoff brothers dropping the backpack into that the waste can the one that everyone says exists but even the governor has not seen

2:46:37 Right. We would like to see that. Alright, John, I think we've kind of done it for today. Yeah, you can now go do your gold show and then... My what? My gold show? My gold show? Oh, that show? Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha. Are you doing Twit? No, I'm not doing Twit today. Oh, that's too bad because you could have said, Neener, neener, neener, I told you there would be fake lines around the block. Oh, that actually came up last week. Yeah, the lines began when I did the show last Sunday. Oh good. Alright. Just wanted to make sure you got to say neener neener. Well, I don't use neener neener, but I do it. I do neener neener neener neener. Alright everybody, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA as we are doing the show for you, produced by you, and of course the only way we keep rolling is through your support of the program.

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