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00:00 Hey Abdul, I guess what we're going to do this weekend? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, August 4th, 2013. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 536. This is no agenda. Wearing my man dress in search of heat relief. Four stories about the secondhand book star in the heart of Amsterdam. Gitmo Nation Lowlands in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, plain and simple, I'm John C. Dvorak. well i have to say it was a nice that it was pretty as nothing i haven't anticipated well let me uh... throw some more on the fire than for you by the way at your age skipping is not an option don't skip down the street with the rest of it well you know it was a gay pride weekend here in the answer them a lowlands where fifty percent of your no agenda show is emanating from uh... uh... today

01:15 and uh... the netherlands amsterdam in particular is world famous for its gay pride canal parade or did you see any of this on the news surely there was a cnn item about it i'm hoping that no nothing go ahead google it google amsterdam and canal parade uh... this is a pretty insane occurrence and i have always stayed away from it uh... yeah seriously apparent reasons and i understand why you would yes uh... but this year uh... my lovely daughter christina uh... was on the out t v and this is the out for a what is it called yet well it's it's called the gay pride canal parade can help us right so uh... to christina is uh... going to be working for the television station called out t v uh... yeah

02:12 and so she was... what are you laughing at? You're killing me here. It's true! And she just came out of the closet herself like a year ago so... What's the locker in the closet for? Yeah, really. So she's got this gig and so they were going to put her on display and OutTV... It's going to kill you much more by the time the story's over, John. So OutTV had a boat and there's only I think 70 or 80 boats and they go all the way around the Prinsengracht, the Prince Canal, and there's at least a million, I think they think 1.2, 1.3 million people who line all the canals, all the bridges, watching these boats go by and these boats, well they're barges essentially, or they actually are floats.

02:53 and each of them has a theme and everyone's just you know you've got just basically gays and lesbians and transgenders and bisexuals and the odd bi-curious person dancing on these boats and waving to everybody and it's a big like, we're gay, ahhh! That's essentially the whole idea and it's gay pride. and the Amstrad Pride itself. There's a lot of action today by the way. The Web, the Pride Closing Party, the Pink Bubbles and Free Bites, the Rapido, Pride Edition, Dirty Dicks. Oh yeah, Fist Factory, Newt Club Amsterdam, Club Church Twinks Orgy. It's an orgy. Hold on, let me finish this down. I know, I'm doing the damn show, we should have moved it. I could have been in the Dirty Fist Orgy, whatever it is. What does truth mean? I don't know.

03:47 Okay, so there's some good things and some really bad things about this gay pride parade. Now, I think the good thing, and I've always seen this on TV, I've never really gone and stood, maybe I leaned out of a window one year when I was here to take a look at it, but it's like there's a lot of people, there's a lot of noise, and so you watch these boats go by, and it's interesting because you have all, you know, they're themed boats, and this year they had the soccer players union boat. Can I interrupt you for a second? Yeah. I was thinking about this just now. I wonder, you know when you go to the Rose Bowl parade and the Macy's Day parade, they call all those those things floats. Yeah, this is where it originates from. I think it's truly a float. It's meant to be a float.

04:31 Yeah, because I never figured out why are these things called floats? They're not floating. No. But I believe now that they're because there's a bunch of these cities in Europe that have these events on these canals because they're all over the place. Yeah. I mean Amsterdam is not the only place with water. No. Anyway, go on. Okay. So they're all themed, and there's big organizations, and this is kind of the good and the bad, but the football players union had a float this year for the first time, essentially saying, hey it's okay to be gay and be a professional soccer player. Strangely enough, no soccer players jumped up and went, yeah I'm gay, let's go, but okay. So they had that boat. You had the cops.

05:16 And this is very interesting. So you had a whole float filled with, must have been 80 or 90 cops, male, female, all in uniform, all saluting. And then, you know, so and each boat kind of has their spiel, which they'll repeat over and over again as they go from between bridges. And a spiel? Yeah, like a, like a shtick, like a little skit, a little thing that's going on. And so they'd all be saluting and then all of a sudden they'd start dancing and they'd be holding up signs, join us. It was weird. To me that was, they're recruiting on the inter-agency cops yeah and the same with the military to the military also has their annuals all military men and women's and of the great alexander the greats armies were all gay so i tell you something here's what they messed up with this thing they should have curry and the war act doing the play-by-play voiceover of the story did not know doing that for you how like kathy lee and i have to do that it was a cat and then regis

06:13 Do they used to do that? Yeah, yeah, no, in Regis they'd talk about, oh and there come the gay cops. No, wait a minute. Here they are, look, oh, they're doing their, uh, they're doing their little dance. No, no, no, no, listen, no, no, you're doing, whoa, that was unexpected. You're supposed to be doing the Alexander the Great historical stuff. So I'll be saying, and here come the soldiers, ladies and gentlemen. John, what do we know about the historical significance of gays in the military? Well, most militaries were extremely gay. It seemed to solve a number of problems. And by the way, in Sparta, which I only learned recently because it was on the special on the KQED, Sparts were required to be gay.

06:57 yeah really and infected but you're required to be gay and also to child a lot of kids so the women would shave their heads and pretend to be guys and then they would uh... have sex with that with their soldier uh... husbands very strange very strange culture okay so here's the uh... so that he could be good in the bad of this and uh... let me start with some of the bad first uh... not only do we have these groups with their boats and they were creamed and and and but there's every single boat their float is commercialized. So you've got the Vodafone float, you know, sponsored by Heineken, sponsored by the bank. No, it really ruins it. And I hate it. It makes it so, it cheapens the whole thing. But of course, you know, these are, these are outfits, these are brands, big international brands who want to cater to this extremely desirable audience.

07:48 Again, I've only seen this thing in previous years from TV and from you know on the sidelines And it's kind of like okay. You know a bunch of gays. You know jumping up and down on the boat or whatever okay? Yeah, that's great. Oh, that's funny. You know kind of like we would do our play-by-play being on the boat Was very different experience because now I'm seeing all the people on the side you went on the boat I told you Christina my daughter I was asked to be one of the stars on the... You said you were on the boat. Yes, I was on the boat with her. She asked me to be... Oh, that was not made clear to me. Because you're just chiding me and laughing and you won't listen. I am not laughing. She had asked me to be her plus one on the boat. Yeah! Yeah! So I witnessed for the first time the gay parade from the boat.

08:38 Now it's just a matter of time now now here's okay, so let me give you my experience now first of all it was great for Christina because you know this is a This is out TV. They finally made it big-time. They're on cable networks, and you know they have distribution They've hired her. She's you know kind of like the celebrity. She's gonna be producing programs, and it's a lifestyle channel yeah Yeah, so it's not a it's not total trash TV. It's not all about saying, you know, whatever those whatever you're reading about this lifestyle travel, etc and but you know, she's kind of like the Queen Bee and The the guy who founded the station is getting her up on the you know on the front deck and interviewing her and such Fantastic and we're floating along we're going down the canal and I can see all these people

09:27 And for the first time I could really see, John, you may not be into what I'm saying here, but I can see how all these people are so happy that here's this day, and I think they should have it for every group that identifies as a group, where they could just throw their hands in the air and just go, I'm gay! And I can see how that could be very liberating. In fact, I did see it. Everyone's dancing and happy and it's a very, very nice vibe. Here's the problem for me. I'm on this boat and you're stuck on the boat for three and a half hours. You're not getting off the boat, you have to do the whole thing. It's hot, you know, we've got a heat wave, I'm wearing a hat, the hat band is hurting my head, the DJ's playing very loud, it's right in my ear. But the boat had a theme and the theme was a commercial tie-in to the movie behind the candelabra.

10:31 That piece of crap movie? Which is now in theaters in the Netherlands. So I was on a boat and they had a grand piano rising from the boat and then a couple of gay guys would jump out and dance and then Liberace would appear and then he would be dancing. But this had to be repeated between every bridge. So every, like a hundred times, this whole Ibrachi thing of this movie that you forced me to watch, which is a piece of crap, and just over and over and over again, with the big voiceover, Ladies and gentlemen, please watch Behind the Candelabra on October 4th, or whatever it was. It was insane.

11:13 and you know everyone's dancing and you know hands up that was the song hands up hands up whatever so everyone has to put your hands in the air for three hours. So for this three hours of essential work what was so what just just because I'm sure people would like to know what what was the fee you got paid for this commercial? Absolutely zero. I'm sorry? Yeah I got zero I was supporting my daughter who who has a gig. Okay well she must have gotten a pile of cash. She got zero she's got a gig it's part of her deal. That's just part of her deal. Yeah, part of her overall deal. She's working... Just suffering to eat for three hours promoting a movie that's got a huge budget for commercialism? It could have paid you guys a hundred bucks. Well, we got all the crappy white wine we could drink. I'm sure that was good for the headache. Yeah, yeah. So, now there was some controversy which we did not hear about in the United States which I found kind of interesting because, you know, of course it's Big Gay Weekend and I keep hearing about

12:13 The Russians, Putin's made it illegal to be gay, he hates gays, the Russians hate gays. I'm like, what is going on? And Nikki actually, she said, hey honey, have you heard about this thing about you can't be gay in Russia or they throw you in jail? I'm like, what are you talking about? So, you know, and I'm reading in the newspaper... Kind of ironic, we all believe. Well, believe it? No kidding! This is my first reaction. It's like, well, yeah, that's kind of what guys do who are gay. You know, the first thing they do is like, outlaw gayness, because don't look over here! anyway, but the way the media is portraying this, the telegraph and they kind of no longer refer to the actual law that passed but just to the extrapolation of it. So it was interesting to see that people on the street were just saying you know you get fined if you're gay, you know if you want to have a bar for gays, you know you get closed and thrown in jail and I'm like, ah. And so then I had to go look it up and here's what happened. The Dumas which is you know the

13:14 the russian uh... uh... parliament's at a past the law and i have the translation of the law and i'm sure will have some of our our russian producers help me out uh... with the with some of the language but this is the best that translation i could get which i thought was pretty accurate i think it's pretty accurate is that it is forbidden by russian law now to promote an alternative lifestyle than heterosexual in the presence of children. And this passed unanimously. It's like 360 votes or how many they have to zero with one abstention. So this says a couple of things. First of all,

14:01 It's ironic, you're absolutely right. Second of all, the Dumas, it's not like Putin really runs what happens there. He may shoot you if you disagree with him, but they have all kinds of... The Dumas doesn't always pass stuff unanimously. There's all kinds of fights about economics and other kinds of policy. So you've got to think that the Russians in general, the representation of the Russian people, believes this is a good thing. and I can't really figure it out why they're doing this other than maybe, I mean I really don't know. I have some theories that may be a little bit off the wall. Maybe they want to ensure that there's, you know, do it behind closed doors and have a family and make kids because we don't want to grow old like the West or something like that. I don't know exactly why. But it is kind of a far cry from you're going to be arrested if you're gay.

14:59 and that was very interesting because on every other bridge you see a picture of Putin you know like Putin hates gays, the Netherlands is now calling to boycott the Olympic Games because of course it will be held in Russia so this could turn out to be an international incident. But I thought I think this is Western propaganda. You think it is? Well, certainly the extrapolation of the law is Western propaganda no doubt about it. No doubt about it, because it's just not true that gays get arrested for being gay. It's just not true. And you can say, I'm gay in Russia and you should not get arrested. But it's propagandizing, I think is actually the actual word, a lifestyle that is alternative to heterosexuality in the presence of children that can get you fined $150 or if you're a corporation, $31,000. That's the law as I understand it.

15:55 But it was, you know, it's kind of interesting to see how that kind of worked and how that was propagated here in the lowlands during this... It was a storyline here. We had it. It was a storyline? Okay. And then of course... It was the same thing. Oh! Oh! Everything's so legal now if you're gay in Russia. Okay. All right. Good. but they're going after Putin and so I've got a couple of clips that are worth listening to. We do have a... so we teased in the newsletter our economic hit man came up, delivered some information to us about Russia and what he believes is going to happen. But first let's play

16:39 Well, let me actually say what the economic hitman said. He says that we can put in the Red Book that the United States is going to take some very stringent action, economic sanctions against Russia within the next week or so. And a lot of this has to do with With us actually being bullies and we want to get Snowden back into the country and everybody's talking about Oh Snowden, you know, the main thing with Snowden his is the main meme that we have in the u.s. Oh, he should go to court and take it like a man

17:15 here is that i'm back to take it like a man i think it's like the appropriate one yet yet they like and that's pretty pretty close to what he'd get so uh... let's play a couple of things that may indicate what's going on here because chuck schumer turns out to be the the point guard not arts thrown out there with some bull crap about Snowden being a coward and a loser and the Russians being bullies. This kills me. But I'm gonna play, I have two clips of Schumer. The first one, I swear I did nothing to this clip. This is the way it played and I believe this was on the Washington Post site, which I got a few clips from. Because they actually have a bunch of stuff they put on their multimedia.

18:03 that they don't write about or talk about is really unusual. They just put a clip on with no commentary, just a plain clip? There's no write-up. Oh, really? It's all in the clip. Yeah, it's weird. But anyway, this is the one that you can play as much of this as you want when the incident happens. But this is the way I record it right off the internet is the way it came out. This is a weird play out clip. And Mr. Putin first allowed Mr. Snowden to enter Russia and remain at the airport. It was a clear poke in the eye of the United States by allowing him to leave the airport and remain in Russia. He has taken the situation a step further and put our relationship with Russia in even greater danger. Russia has stabbed us in the back.

18:49 And each day that Snowden is allowed to roam free is another twist of the knife. Mr. Snowden likes to portray himself as someone who practices civil disobedience like Martin Luther King or Gandhi, but he's not. King and Gandhi did not hurt people with their civil disobedience. Snowden did by putting our security at risk. and others who have practiced civil disobedience in the past have stood up and faced charges because they strongly believed in what they were doing

19:34 I reset it. You can play a little more of it. I'd like to hear it. But I reset it and I finally got it to work right. This is what it was feeding me. Daniel Ellsberg leaked the Pentagon Papers. He had the courage to stay in the country and defend what he had done. If Mr. Snowden had the courage of... Sorry. If Mr. Snowden had... Does it get better, John? Or does it keep going like this? It keeps going like that. You'll kill it. You can go to the clip number two, which is the one where he essentially, and he's reading this in such a weird way that I just know the White House put him up to this. And this is the prelude to what we're going to do to the Russians. We're going to cut them off. We're going to not go to the Olympics. We're going to do something. And it's coming out within the next couple of weeks. Obama has to do something because

20:30 It's out of control that Snowden, not only now he's free to roam around Russia, probably he's going to get a fake name I'm sure, and he's going to end up working for Vcontact, which is the huge Facebook of Russia, which is a worldwide phenomenon this thing. And he's essentially going to be the Zuckerberg in terms of coding. He's going to be working there. I'm sure he's going to take that job. That's the one job he was offered. and uh... but he played the the second one on and schumer where he goes off on on on snowed in and then the bullying thing and defend what he had done if mister snowden had the courage of income sorry if mister snowden had the courage of his convictions he would come back to the country stand trial tell the american people in a jury why he thought what he did was justified but mister snowden's a coward who was chosen to run

21:24 and consort with countries like Russia, like China, like possibly Ecuador or Venezuela that have far fewer liberties than we do. Given Russia's decision... Why does he keep restarting his sentences? What was going on? Was there something with the prompter? I think, personally, I think he's making it clear that he's reading. In fact, one time he said... He just essentially stopped and said, excuse me, and read the exact same thing again. Yeah, okay. the president should recommend moving the G20 summit. What Russia has done is a serious blow to US-Russian relations, and I believe we should carefully consider additional steps to put an end to this fugitive chase. Mr. Putin seems to relish poking us in the eye, whether it's Iran or Syria or now Snowden. And as long as Prime Minister Putin acts like a bully

22:29 We have only one choice, to stand up to him and show him that bullies pay a price. Ready for your questions? You know, this makes so much sense that the Putin thing is, you know, this whole Putin is gay, anti-gay, that will be the next one. You can almost wait for pictures to surface, you know, some photoshop thing or something, and they're just going to call Putin gay. Yeah, and this thing with Schumer, we've watched this character for years, and he doesn't talk like this. No. He's more assertive. This is reading very slowly, and then making mistakes seemingly on purpose. And then, you know, and the poke in the eye meme seems to be throughout this little speech. Is this new? This poke in the eye? Yeah, that's pretty new. It was just a few days ago. Okay. Or it was like after our last show. Right.

23:27 So I dug around and I also found, because we've never really heard, we've heard about him and there's been some assertions that they've tried to get him to go to Russia, Snowden's dad. Well now we've been following Snowden's dad who was hired this high, or who was not probably not hired, but he has this high profile lawyer who's come out and in fact didn't we even question if this was Snowden's dad? Yeah, we did and I still, I think we can still question it but I do have two clips of Snowden's dad which are interesting enough because it, especially the second clip, it turns out that this is a family of spooks that goes back a while and that's maybe why Snowden's dad seems so odd. But here is the Snowden's dad one clip where he talks about

22:29 We have only one choice, to stand up to him and show him that bullies pay a price. Ready for your questions? You know, this makes so much sense that the Putin thing is, you know, this whole Putin is gay, anti-gay, that will be the next one. You can almost wait for pictures to surface, you know, some photoshop thing or something, and they're just going to call Putin gay. Yeah, and this thing with Schumer, we've watched this character for years, and he doesn't talk like this. No. He's more assertive. This is reading very slowly, and then making mistakes seemingly on purpose. And then, you know, and the poke in the eye meme seems to be throughout this little speech. Is this new? This poke in the eye? Yeah, that's pretty new. It was just a few days ago. Okay. Or it was like after our last show. Right.

23:27 So I dug around and I also found, because we've never really heard, we've heard about him and there's been some assertions that they've tried to get him to go to Russia, Snowden's dad. Well now we've been following Snowden's dad who was hired this high, or who was not probably not hired, but he has this high profile lawyer who's come out and in fact didn't we even question if this was Snowden's dad? Yeah, we did and I still, I think we can still question it but I do have two clips of Snowden's dad which are interesting enough because it, especially the second clip, it turns out that this is a family of spooks that goes back a while and that's maybe why Snowden's dad seems so odd. But here is the Snowden's dad one clip where he talks about

24:18 where he all of a sudden turned on, you know, he changed his whole attitude after he tried to do a deal with the government and you can be able to explain it, it's quite interesting. I was asked if I would consider flying to Moscow and I said yes, I said however... I want to know what the objective is because and I want to be able to speak to my son to see if there's value because I'm not going to fly to Moscow to sit on the tarmac to be an emotional tool for you. For the government. For the government. And so... What did they say? And so initially I said, so can you set up communications? And initially it was, well we're not sure. I said, wait just a minute. Folks that I work with could set up communications. You know, any number of ways. So you thought you'd be a pawn. Bottom line is

25:00 we offered, we partnered with them, Bruce was involved with this. It's Bruce, that's the lawyer? They were unable to set up communications with Edward and so as a result that did not work. Does your dad call you Edward or does your dad call you Ed? Or Ted? It depends, you know it's funny because... Just sound it unnatural. It does sound unnatural, but it may not be. I mean, I've run into families and situations where the kid at some point in his life decides he wants to be called something. He doesn't like the nicknames or he doesn't like this. He wants to be called... He doesn't want to be called anything other than Edward, for example. And so you would get used to that. I'm not buying that, you know, I don't think that's awkward. Wouldn't it be funny if his dad should just call him what everyone else calls him, Mr. Snowden?

25:54 You, Lon, you said it first, that publicly, that you wanted Edward to come back to the US. You said that publicly and you just indicated these talks were initially designed to do that. But I saw you said the other day that you think he should stay in Russia. Why the change? Absolutely, new reality. Well, simply the behavior of our government, both our Congress and the Justice Department, I have again lost confidence that they are operating in good faith. Very simply. I want my son to get a review. You said it. Let me, let me, you said it. Where at this point you know unless someone's been living in a cave or they don't have a TV could my son get a fair trial now we talk about the eastern district of virginia you know where you cannot what is this guy supposed to be doing is there any does any setup in the in these interviews that say you know okay and mister snowden's dad ed snowden's dad is not a lot of a lot of the

26:50 No, there was a set up guy at the beginning, he says they had this conversation. This was essentially the reporters. This is raw footage essentially of a reporter doing an interview to get some quotes. And so they have the whole thing and there's a number of things you know they're not going to put in a story. For example, he says they're going to, apparently the trial would be in Eastern Virginia. where the dad says it's just contractorsville and the other guy's nodding and laughing. This is much better than actually reading this because you get some of this kind of... And you know I'm feeling now... There's something weird about... No, no, there's a whole bunch of things going on and I'm feeling that the Snowden, not calling him a whistleblower or discrediting him

27:33 it's connected to a lot of things that the working world will get to you know the you the big revelation that cnn magically got about being gaza e i think it did there's a whole bunch of stuff going on specifically about this and now that our economic hit man has said that we can look for a lot of stuff he said specifically russia right Yeah, we're talking about Russia. So you skip the rest of this. Let me go to number two because there's a little tidbit in here that again doesn't get brought out under normal circumstances. But he starts talking about the kid and what kind of a son he was and all the rest. And there is it is a little stiff. But then when you hear with all the background of this family, they're all spooks and cops and

28:18 and you know it's very interesting. You don't talk, I mean I could tell you much about his background. No, this one I'm going to give you. This doesn't sound like any normal dad, but when you start, keep listening to it because there's a couple of tidbits in here that are worth it. A patriotic family, a family in which he had many relatives who were federal law enforcement officers, military, police officers, so certainly there was a patriotic streak.

29:04 Everyone in the family always recognized that Edward was... I'm gonna ding on the patriotic streak there for a second, because that is code for conspiracy theories and crazy people. The brilliant one, and everyone who knew him. He was a gentle child and I've as a child as a man I have never known him to be cruel or harsh with anyone. Okay you can stop there. The part you kind of stepped on but he says he's brilliant. As a child. Well I think the kid This is the thing that doesn't go out there. Everybody, you know, the media and everybody portrays him as a, as a college or a high school dropout. As a loser, right, loser, loser with a stripper girlfriend.

29:51 Yeah, and when we've seen him and then this guy is discussing him, they talk about when he was a kid he was the smart one in the family, the brilliant one, who's probably along those lines of a Gates or these guys who really can't go to school. And they have some potentially different kind of autistic characteristics. But I believe that he wouldn't have been in all these jobs unless he was like the go-to guy. You know, he did have access to all this stuff because he knew how to run, go inside the internet, like a good tracker. He had access to powerpoints, that's all I know so far. I don't have any proof of anything else on that. Well, when he says that he could tap anybody's phone, I believe he could. And he did pull out the powerpoints, but I think it was the powerpoints that upset him because they were so glib.

30:41 and and i i'm still the not happy with the powerpoint black the blacked out slides in that second group yeah but isn't isn't that uh... just because the guardian uh... calls up the white house and uh... the only thing and then they say oh yeah you can publish that just uh... redact this this and blackout this one and i even know that you know them i don't i doubt there's anything in those blacked out slides it's any different in the rest of the slides i think they're just making it look like a small or two making it look cool Anyway, I just thought it was interesting listening to this guy. You're right, but if you've ever been around, I've run into these families, if you've ever been around a highly military family, you know, the ones that send their kids to military school and all the rest, they're very stiff. The dads are very stiff. And it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't the guy's dad.

31:30 but you know the very what it was just it wasn't just stand office she's talking about you know police and it's not on the i mean i've been around military families quite a bit you know i've been around intelligence families quite a bit i think you know i'm pretty close to uh... some the people it's just this analogous without seeing stuff when you hear stuff and I hearing it fresh for the first time and we've seen this before with this guy just doesn't feel right for some reason. There's no evidence in it so we might as well just take it at face value. No matter what the script is playing out that's his dad. Let's just we can agree on that. Yeah, but anyways, it's just interesting, but the Russian thing is going on. So we have another note from the economic hitman besides the prediction that something bad's gonna happen in terms of relationship with Russia. Apparently, this is, I'll just read from this memo about the Russian situation regarding what's going on in Syria, in the Middle East.

32:31 It's not the pipeline, it's not gas, it's about regime change and if the USA is able to prevail over and over and over again in encouraging regime change for the sake of democracy, the Russians believe that places like Chechnya will find encouragement for doing the same. Interesting. His Russian contact says to look at the money trail instead. Russia prints Syria's money. Yeah, they sell them all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they literally print it. They sell them all their weapons They provide them with similar support as they did for Cuba until 1994 as for China They are joining Russia just because they too are against regime change for the sake of democracy The contact agrees that this is the worst relationship America has had with Russia since the Cold War they cannot talk about Snowden, but

33:28 Do say this obviously fits into Putin's plan. If you recall Seven Days of the Condor, this is what this person is essentially. Refresh our memory on Seven Days of the Condor. I don't remember it either, but it's a spy film. Hey, great show, Chris. And there's a person in the movie that this is the person that's giving us information. Hold on. There's nothing really else that we need to know. Okay, so I think there's a couple things going on simultaneously here and I always love it when we come up with something from our economic hitman. You also got to think he's telling us for a reason as well.

34:05 You know these guys they always think he likes the show okay, well that's possible But we just had something Back up because I when I first Met him and then we started discussing things he had I think it's like And he doesn't think he's an economic hitman. He believes that there's certain kinds of little... We do essentially deconstruction based on what we're presented with and we don't have a lot of back door, back room, back channel stuff necessarily. We do have some but a lot of it is really just deconstruction. And he, I think, every so often gets annoyed by something he knows is wrong.

34:47 and so then he says, okay, so he's annoyed by my pipeline analysis, which only in this situation, but I'm willing to concede that. I think that I'm totally on board with what he's saying because something happens yesterday or just before the weekend and I know that this has nothing to do with terrorism. I think assets are being put in place and I think that something bad is going to happen, yes. And I think it's all about destabilizing the Middle East and it is a proxy war with Russia. We all agree on that, that that's what Syria is really about. Because this of course is the warning that went out.

35:28 Welcome back to the lead, I'm Jake Tapper. We're going to continue with our world lead. It's a grim warning. The United States is issuing a worldwide travel alert for Americans abroad and shuttering 21 embassies and consulates this weekend. All in reaction to a potential terrorist threat sources believe could be coming from Al Qaeda's affiliates in Yemen. And by the way, the video that's being shown here is the funniest thing. They're showing a hill with a whole bunch of dudes on it in dresses. you know, like the Arab garb. Just a hill, just a grassy hill and all these guys are sitting there. Like they're all gearing up to, I don't know, to jump on a plane and commit jihad or whatever. It's the weirdest video. A senior Yemeni national security official now tells CNN that Yemeni intelligence agencies alerted local authorities of this threat two days ago when the Yemeni president was in Washington, D.C. And let me say something else. I've been in a lot of countries

36:22 and the embassy is typically not open in the weekend anyway. This is not, you know, Sundays? Really? The embassy? No. Friday afternoon, they close their doors and they might be open for some emergency, but it's closed. This is not like something spectacular. Other than that, in February, beginning of February 2012 was the last time this happened. It's not such a crazy occurrence. And that was, they closed down the embassy's in Syria, which of course is when some of the crap was starting to come down, because we were actually putting assets in place and we knew something was going to happen. So to me this is an asset placement program under the guise of, oh be very afraid, let's close all the embassies, we don't want someone else to die. This official also said that recent US drone attacks may generate reprisals.

37:11 And now security has been ratcheted up in Yemen's major cities. I'm joined now by CNN national security analyst Juliette Kayyem, CNN contributor and former CIA operative Bob Bair, and right here in studio, CNN contributor and terrorism analyst Paul Krukshank. I think he's the ex-CIA guy who always... Right, I've seen him a million times. Yeah, but he's been saying some interesting things recently. I think you and I caught that he probably was included in this stuff. I'm still not sure he's actually part of the agency system anymore. I'm actually on board with this idea because when I see him he does it, because the guy's, there's that one woman who's on a lot that's semi-attractive, she's actually very attractive. That's the one who I know. CIA woman, she's one of these women. And she seems like she's got the memo, she just read the current memo.

38:02 Yeah. Bear seems like, I don't know, this is new, crazy. So it's this woman, it's Bear, and then there's some British dude who I just skipped because he's MI6 and he's horrible. He's just reading some script that he's been given. But here's the one. I want to start with you. From what we know, how real do you think this threat is? And what's the precedent for a response like this, shuttering all these embassies and consulates? By the way, that's propaganda right there. Shuttering all, oh it's the president shuttering all this, bullcrap tapper. It's pretty unprecedented, because you want to put it in combination with the travel advisory. So they're going to close a bunch of embassies and tell Americans to be cautious worldwide. Oh I should have gone, I should be cautious. To check in with their state departments and consulates. I got to check in with my state department consulate right now. Together is pretty unique, so to suggest

38:52 I should be so afraid I'm in Amsterdam. It's where the underwear bomber originated. At least in what we know right now that there's been sort of a long-term threat stream a couple months and then this very specific... She's saying something that has not been reported at all and she says we know there's been a long-term threat stream for three months bull crap got information coming from yemen so there's probably multiple streams they're not leading to a specific incident and with caution lessons learned clearly from bang on the uh... both what initial assistance she's talking out of her that cannot have anything because you know that was a been an embassy that got at the attack this is this book is both statements came out today in anticipation of the weekend of course uh... you know side and around the time dot

39:41 Oh, end of Ramadan. So she's throwing it on the end of Ramadan just to ratchet that up a bit. Now we go to Bob Bair. And I like what he's saying. Bob Bair, you think there's a possibility of deception here. Explain what you mean by that. Yeah. Well, we have to go back to 9-11. In the months before, there were all sorts of indications, chatter, that the attacks were going to occur in Turkey. There was specifically a base there that al-Qaeda was going to hit. The whole intelligence community was wrapped up in this and lo and behold it occurred in New York and Washington DC.

40:19 Al-Qaeda is capable of putting out disinformation over phone lines. What is it capable of? So, capable of putting out disinformation over phone lines. Does that mean they can circumvent our fantastic X-Key score system? Oh, people will believe what they're saying because they don't know they're being wiretapped? In fact, it's a... Hey, Abdul, I guess what we're going to do this weekend? Yemen! We're going to Yemen! Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, Mohammed! SOP for them. So I don't think we should limit this to the Middle East and that's why the warning goes out to Europe as well and the rest of the world. In fact, it could be the United States. It could be these guys are perfectly capable of hitting here and yet showing signs they're going to hit elsewhere. You think, Bob, just to stay with you, you think Al-Qaeda is perfectly capable of hitting in the US a million times? Here's the interesting thing. I think that Bob Bair read Jake's line and Jake didn't know what to do and so he just read the line again.

41:19 Oh, do that again. That again. Hold on, let me just rewind it for a second. That was kind of weird. Perfectly capable of hitting in the U.S. Hold on. I'm sorry, I didn't go back far enough. You think... Damn! That's such a short clip, I have no idea how far back I gotta go. ...to Europe as well and the rest of the world. In fact, it could be the United States. It could be these guys are perfectly capable of hitting here and yet showing signs they're gonna hit elsewhere. You think, Bob, just to stay with you, you think Al-Qaeda is perfectly capable of hitting in the US a major attack? Come on, man. He read the same line. Or the kind of lone wolf attacks that we've seen. Oh, wait, wait a minute. Where's your lone wolf sound effect? I think they could do a couple lone wolf attacks. Oh, a couple lone wolf attacks. Yeah.

42:10 what are you doing today? How can you plan for a lone wolf attack? I'm doing a couple lone wolf attacks. So right now they're admitting that lone wolf attacks are not lone wolf attacks. It's a coordinated attack. We've been saying this for years. We know that this stuff can be bought in stores, it can be assembled here, people with a little bit of training can hit public facilities, transportation facilities. uh... a they're absolutely capable of it uh... today at the people on the ground i certainly wouldn't know that but yeah i'd i fear for the worst now okay he fears for the worst is so uh... bob bear by the way that the uh... the uh... six weeks schedule starts on the eleventh who will call you so that we're going to tell me how to be good timing as seventy let me just say uh... uh... regarding of course we had at uh... schiphol airport is where the uh...

43:00 the underwear bomber originated from and i forgot to mention on the previous episode of the best podcast in universe uh... when we left from amsterdam to fly to the south of france we went through a security and the security existed of only a magnetometer there was no uh... scanner there was no naked body scanner and that we are of course are allowed to keep our shoes on here in europe which is always baffling to me that uh... that they have to come off in uh... the u k and in that united states but here's fine just walk on through and and nothing goes off you know there's no problem uh... and you do have to keep belt off and but something new you have to take your charger out your computer charger

43:43 So here was a... What? Yeah. You gotta take your computer charger out of the... The brick? Yeah. And flying back... Why? Yeah, because... I don't know. I'm just telling you, giving you the facts. Now flying back from... Where's your charger for that thing? Yeah, no, we were really mean about it. Flying back from Nice to Amsterdam, same deal, only a magnetometer. And here I went off going through the magnetometer. And they said, oh, take your shoes off, sir. That may be it. I went back, took my shoes off, walked right through. Listen, walk right through, didn't go off. But meanwhile, my bag, which contains?

44:25 wires Print printed circuit boards batteries a big oblong looking microphone transmitters antennas more wires power supplies Not a problem. Not a question. Just move along this kills me. I know this too Yeah, and I'll take a picture of my bag and I'll tweet it because you can see I mean this thing and it's got the the ultimate podcast device which is an open box with alligator clips and on. When you look at this thing on... Yeah, everything short of a bomb is in that case. No, no, it's everything short of a sign that says bomb. It has everything on it. Every piece. This is baffling me because every once in a while I load up my bag with a bunch of broadcasting gear and microphones and wires and all kinds of stuff.

45:14 Hold it, hold it, hold it! You got a bottle of water in there. And meanwhile there was a family going through and the kid had like, you know, they had like bottles of shampoo. Oh, by the way, that's also not a problem. You know, we had Limoncello bottles. No limitations on liquids, you know, no liquid bombers. Remember those guys? That's why you still can't take a bottle of water through. We have to buy a $10 bottle of water on the other side. The kid had like a toy gun. You know, and they opened him up of course, because yeah, toy gun! You can't have a toy gun! But it's okay, Mr. Curry. You're a box full of wires, batteries, power supplies. You should see the electrolytic... Alligator clips. Yeah, the electrolytic condensers on this thing are huge. You know, the big pots. All you need is some C4 and you can go anywhere. I tell you, it's really funny. What's this plastic stuff?

46:12 And, and, but you know this is, especially from Schiphol Airport, where the underwear bomber got on the plane! Come on, you'd think that it'd have some sense to up the security if they're gonna keep it up. It's so bogative. We're such slaves in America. By the way, in the morning to you, John C. DeVore. In the morning to you, Adam Curry, and in the morning to all the ships at sea, and the boots on the ground indeed. And the subs in the water and the feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there. So I got a note from some guy who hitched a ride. Wait, wait, wait, wait, can I just thank some other people before we get into it? We gotta thank all the citizens in the chat room.

46:55 human resources are now illegal in Seattle. I know you can't say it. Our brown bag citizens in the chat room, noagenitstream.com, noagenitchat.net, thank you so much for hanging out with us today. Also thanks to our artists, noagenitartgenerator.com, Joe to the Dish Slave responsible for episode 535 album art, we really appreciate it. Now someone was bitching you said? Somebody is bitching at me in an email Your foot in the water feet in the air and stuff is you're just you're what you're faxing it in So he said it he went as moaning about it. It's just a dramatize it or something I don't know what he wanted me to do. So I've dramatized it this time. How was that? My acting? Oh, I see It's not what you're saying. It's about the dramatization Yes, I think we could do one more read. Okay, I'll give I'll cue you in the morning to you John C. Dvorak

47:51 And in the morning to you, Adam Curry and all the ships at sea and the boots, the boots I say, on the ground and the feet in the air and the subs in, not on, in the water. I could do that more than once or twice. That sounds terrible. No, it's not. It sounds like Colton Bourne or something, some old radio guy from the 20s. And so we had pleaded for some help for this show since the last three, which even though people really liked the Thursday show and our interview show and our Best of Clip show, donations were very low. But I think it's funny, you know, people of course are always interested in what I'm doing over here and like, how many people listen to that podcast of yours? I have no idea. What do you mean you have no idea? I don't care. What do you mean you don't care?

48:43 Yeah, it's because we're not advertiser based. I don't care how many people listen We just we just need to be able to pay our bills and such a foreign concept that it's like it it hurts me It hurts their brain knowing my mind You this can't be real what you're doing that can be actual programming We should thank our producers then. Alright, who we got here? This is our value for value model for those of you who are new to the show. No advertisements, no one can kick us off, take us away. The only people who tell us what to talk about, ultimately control what we do is our producers. As long as we can still pay the bills, we just keep on trucking, bring it, deliver what we think is what you want. Until they tell us to stop. That's right. In other words, our

47:51 And in the morning to you, Adam Curry and all the ships at sea and the boots, the boots I say, on the ground and the feet in the air and the subs in, not on, in the water. I could do that more than once or twice. That sounds terrible. No, it's not. It sounds like Colton Bourne or something, some old radio guy from the 20s. And so we had pleaded for some help for this show since the last three, which even though people really liked the Thursday show and our interview show and our Best of Clip show, donations were very low. But I think it's funny, you know, people of course are always interested in what I'm doing over here and like, how many people listen to that podcast of yours? I have no idea. What do you mean you have no idea? I don't care. What do you mean you don't care?

48:43 Yeah, it's because we're not advertiser based. I don't care how many people listen We just we just need to be able to pay our bills and such a foreign concept that it's like it it hurts me It hurts their brain knowing my mind You this can't be real what you're doing that can be actual programming We should thank our producers then. Alright, who we got here? This is our value for value model for those of you who are new to the show. No advertisements, no one can kick us off, take us away. The only people who tell us what to talk about, ultimately control what we do is our producers. As long as we can still pay the bills, we just keep on trucking, bring it, deliver what we think is what you want. Until they tell us to stop. That's right. In other words, our

49:31 Our audience is in charge of the show. It's their show. And that's why there are producers. And we have executive producers, associate executive producers, and then everyone above $50 per episode gets mentioned in the producer thank you segment later on in the program, in the broadcast. So our first, we have an instantite. I want to congratulate Sir Who's Ever. Who's Ever? uh... ten sixty nine sixty nine he has a cc send a small note i will i will just hint that he is apparently in the military and does not want any came in the mail which is the way to go if you know what i'd be tracked the center of the center check or a cash or what you have nice check all cash that be cool no check uh... don't only says the reader on the air he says he's going to be used or whoever of cyber space but that in there

50:27 Sir whoever of cyberspace, thank you for what you do. It's a great service to your nation and our universe. and he says and but now did you have some clues that he is in the military other clues that the well you mean did because the mail came from a base and something and it is written on military station there are no yes I like that yeah someone got that made the bullshit I don't know well you know he also said to slave bracelet said I'll send you one of them on ice you know what you know what I think my sir sir whoever cyberspace is gonna do the admin who's ever

51:03 Who's ever, okay well that's not what it says on mine, sir who's ever of cyberspace. Because I always find it fun when guys and gals who are actually like in sandy deserts getting shot at when they tell us we're doing a great service to our nation. It always feels, it feels a little wrong. How about you? I think it's fine. Okay. You know, they're doing their job, whatever it might be, and they like our analysis because for sure they're not getting it from anyone else. Yeah, I'd probably keep some sane over there, man. It's just, like, jeez. I knew those guys were douchebags! I'm glad to hear somebody say it. Exactly.

51:50 well that's fantastic he's so he's uh... he is a insomite and he will be knighted today that's fabulous i think it's it's very funny but do you like you the slave bracelets kind of funny now is that what it is it's a rubber band bracelet you know there's like the yellows and it's just a bunch of you had a bunch of symbols of the luminati and said he had good slavery so i guess that's sexy Gene Neftuliev. Oh, sir. Gene, Baron of... Baron de Marriott, Sheriff of Texas. Yes, 536. There's a new sheriff in town, bitches. Uh-oh. And then he says, P.S. John, thanks for the tip for Crocs. Wait a minute. Did you have some discussion about Crocs with him? No. I don't know what he's talking about.

52:46 Okay. Maybe if he reminded me I could remember. Oh yeah, I remember that. No, I don't. Well, here's one thing I know. That means he's finally moved to Austin. Why is he wearing Crocs or is he making pickles? I don't know one of the two. He says, Austin, there's a new sheriff in town, bitches. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it means. So they reassigned him. Yeah, closer. So he's closer to you. Because like, you gotta give this curry either more information more often. You know what? I don't care. As long as the dinners keep coming.

53:24 Yeah, and the donations. I think it's very good. And so he'll be the lone 536 Club member as well as an executive producer. Yes, exactly. Nate Wilson in Charleston, South Carolina, 33333. He Dear John and Adam, he believes this takes me over to a total for knighthood. We have him on the list I believe. I would like to thank you both for an outstanding product and services offered by the No Agenda Network. The value for value has far exceeded this knighthood total and more will be coming your way. Please send a Don't Be A Denier, Sciences In, and maybe a No Agenda National Anthem. We can play that at the end of the show. Let me do the denier thing. Should we do that now or do you have more of the note? Yeah, sure.

54:11 The science is in! Science! He's in Calgary. When I played that clip to them, I swear it was so silent in the apartment, one guy said, how can they just lie like that? I think everyone who listens to the show has already given up on that thing. I played Reverend Manning's thoughts on Trayvon Martin being high and paranoid eating Skittles and the corresponding hoax about the autopsy report. Another guy brought up the subject of harp and greys. He's now a listener. Well, of course. He had me watch a movie called Nazis at the Center of the Earth. Oh, this is a good one with the flying saucers. It's my favorite.

55:14 Needless to say he's on board. Now I'll just hit them in the mouth with my night ring and save myself the clips. Thanks again for the show and services. Nate from Charleston, South Carolina working in Calgary, Alberta. And I'm gonna hand him some karma because he's really propagating the formula well. You've got karma. Even though it was unrequested, sometimes you just gotta throw it out there. How can they just lie like that? There's lying going on in government? No Agenda Slave Mart, $330 at East Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Let's see, from the knights normally known as Sir Upstart who have brought you the Whoopomron song and video, we now present the No Agenda Slave Mart at www.slavemart.co. Hold on a second.

56:07 uh... slave martin have you looked at it we have hired top artist agree we hope john and adam consider outstanding products and will donate a portion of each one sold to keep the show alive so there's this gallery of uh... dudes wearing gas masks with shut up slave no agenda t-shirts apparently and it costs thirty three bucks Well, it's Australian money. Or a seductive in the morning poster. We hope the community supports the show so we can continue to bring high-end products based off all the great No Agenda memes. You know, we have enough, we don't, we have trouble getting any of our stuff to Australia. It's good that someone would start something local. I agree.

56:54 I'd like to get as much feedback on the experience as possible. Check the website or the email. Thanks, John and Adam. Keep up the great work. Can I get some karma and a birthday shout out to Sammy Sosa who turns 31 today? Yep, Sammy's on the list and we'll give you a special... Shut up, Slay! Karma. You've got karma. Nice. That's pretty cool. William Bauman of Port Hueneme, $250. United States, US, yes. Wally and Beaver, a quick booster of consulting karma if you will. I got a new gig starting in September. Friends doing better too, project.

57:36 uh... he needs a bb apparently we gave him carmen again good-looking good pre-check to leave democratic people's republic on schedule now there is a unit by got a california not a bad idea you've got karma come to texas search and pete pate states states makes that case repeat two one three six nine uh... In the morning, Jens Sirpiet here. First off, I'd like a fuck cancer and a huge hit of karma for my uncle and family. The other producers noticed the shows of the past months have been even greater value for value. I've especially loved the interviews. Unlike most producers... That's kind of funny, isn't it? It's like, the show is great, I loved it.

58:26 And we were just gonna tank the show with those interviews. Unlike most producers or productions we see on TV, it's not stuffed with swooning dimwits and softball scripted questions. They're great talks with curiosity inducing stories. This is the ideal content for a premium content addendum for paying producers I'd pay. Yeah, you know we've looked at these. I think we're steady as she goes and we'll just stay what we're doing. It seems to work. And I always appreciate people thinking about us doing some premium stuff. But we don't see it working. You have to have so many people listening. We can't even get the people who are listening to... What is it? We're still around 1% of the people who listen and actually donate to the show, John? It can't be much more than that. I think it's about 5, actually. Oh, really? No. Yeah.

59:17 Really? So our audience is smaller than I thought. Well that's good because then we can get more you know we'll get it we don't want to we don't want to peak the audience out if this is if income is good then we'd flatline. Right. So I'm hoping it's five. All right let me let me hand out the appropriate and requested karma. You've got karma. Uh, let's see here, hold on one second while I look up Brink to see if he's sent in a newt. He's from Wisconsin? New Berlin, Wisconsin. Okay, well...

59:59 Don't know. Anyway, so Todd Brink is in for New Berlin, from New Berlin, Wisconsin with $200. No comment, seemingly. Brian House at $200 from Bato Bay in New South Wales, Australia. We got a lot of Australians coming in. Been listening for a while and I thought I should wing a little cash your way. Can I have a Don't Eat Me Hillary Clinton, two to the head, and the original mac and cheese? Wow, hold on a second. Where is the don't eat me Hillary? This is weird. Well you're looking for that. I want to thank these producers for all their help and remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA. We do another show coming up on Thursday and we need continuous help and we appreciate this to an extreme.

1:00:54 Adam, you can't find... No, this is a real problem. Don't eat me, Hillary. Well, I know, I know... It must be called something else. How can this not... Well, maybe it's under... No? How can this be? This makes no sense. Can you do a search on Hillary? Yeah, that's what I'm doing right... Well, these searches don't go so fast, but... I mean, this can't be gone. I mean, this is the problem. You know, I've been getting ready for 2016. I'm so excited about having Hillary back in the fray. But now it must be... Maybe it's Lizzie. Maybe it's under Lizzie. It seems like it's gone. Oh, here it is. That was close. Yeah, that would have been very bad. Okay, so what was the combination? It's a Lizzie... Don't eat me, Hillary. Two to the head and the original mac and cheese.

1:01:50 Uh, what does that mean, the original? You mean your original? I don't know, I think it's the one where we're going about cheap cheddar. Oh, that one, okay. Alright, alright. I'm thinking. Yeah, let's see if we can do it. Here we go. Uh... Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton! You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Woo! That was scary. Sorry about that. Okay. That was it? Yeah, yeah that was it and I remind you to go to Dvork.org slash NA and hit people in the mouth while you're at it. Yeah and speaking of such I have a couple PR mentions. Producer Ron White, Adam, John thank you very much for you guys. Do love the show and over the past three years contributed enough for two knighthoods through trading work for a no agenda donation. I'm a computer tech sysadmin of course.

1:02:44 and i travel to various jobs through tech head hunters whenever one of the employees asked me to fix their home system i agree on the condition they make a donation to no agenda this is work this is work because some of them have allowed me to hit them in the mouth to find out blackmail yes that's exactly what it is no agenda blackmail uh... please give me a karma hit to johnny yourself from anonymous night so he is one of the anonymous ones karma love that also a uh... shout out to producer mark carper he has been working the book of knowledge i'm sorry the urban dictionary and he has uh... you were getting more and more entries in the urban dictionary and we now have of the book of knowledge is uh... in the in the urban dictionary

1:03:33 and uh... here's the definition of a good knowledge a common term meaning the website wikipedia dot org and then there's always little example and this is all cursive which means it would be it's an example of how the book of knowledge is used in common Adam, which agency did she come from? John, I'm not sure. Adam, hmm, how about we, jingle plays, consult the book of knowledge. I love that. That's about right. That's the show. That's the show right there everybody. So thank you very much. And as John just said, please consult the book of knowledge.

1:04:17 uh... thank you all of for uh... the helping us with the episode five three six of course should be credited as such a you can put this anywhere you want to real credit but i did this is part of him one if you're an executive or so city executive producer you can also put it uh... on your linkedin page and that doesn't appear apparently gets a lot of hits and uh... a lot of people in you you'll see uh... your your views of your linkedin profile go up uh... i've been uh... assured And please help us for Thursday's show. And no matter where you are in these Gitmo nations, please go out and propagate our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. I wanted to hook back into some of this Tapper stuff, because Tapper's feeling pretty good about himself these days.

1:05:20 and this is Benghazi all of a sudden Jake Tapper has a big scoop on Benghazi which I know you gotta wonder I'm sure Jake Tapper is not out scooping everything you know he was essentially fired from ABC. He was read in on some scheme. Yeah, no he was fired from ABC and because I think he was a little too nosy and he was the White House correspondent so they got rid of him but now I think he's just totally sold out and he's just like, okay whatever just give it to me I'll be your man and I'll present it as big news and CNN of course you know who's the guy Zucker is that the guy Zucker over there Jeff Zucker who's the guy who brought NBC into fifth place yeah right so that guy you know he's probably like yeah Jake's our man he's got context on the inside it's great

1:06:12 And so this hits the blogs really hard. Everyone's like, oh my God. CNN has learned the CIA is involved in what one source calls an unprecedented attempt to keep the spy agency's Benghazi secrets from ever leaking out. Since January some CIA operatives involved in the agency's missions in Libya have been subjected to frequent even monthly polygraph examinations according to a source with deep inside knowledge of the agency's work. That source by the way was Bob Bair, but that's irrelevant. The goal of the questioning according to sources is to find out if anyone is talking to the media or Congress

1:06:54 It's being described as pure intimidation with the threat that any unauthorized CIA employee who leaks information could face the end of his or her career. In exclusive communications obtained by CNN, one insider writes, you don't jeopardize yourself, you jeopardize your family as well. Another says you have no idea the amount of pressure being brought to bear on anyone with knowledge of this operation So it's clear that there's a lot of a lot of moves being made The different agencies we've always said and you are warring with each other I believe the Colin Powell email hack from Guccifer has to be related to this and

1:07:38 and I think you know with a lot of you did you read the emails you hear about this whole this call not only about it I don't know yeah no no Colin Powell's email was a hacked and it was revealed that he also would say had an on and a year-long email relationship good good Paul a colon Powell claims with some woman who looks like it you know totally like she's probably doing him and she sent him pictures in his in her bathing suit or whatever uh... yes it's pretty funny yeah but i think that what happens here is what's the point with what what what would this be important to anybody to call house not a public figure anymore and what was the point of this and i think the point is messaging

1:08:23 Messaging that you know they that anything can be done however we want to do it whenever we want to do it and it's Colin Powell's email today whose email will it be tomorrow I think that's what it is it's messaging and of course it's embarrassment and we know there's tons of embarrassment going around now We've got more people in on this revelation, this exclusive content which apparently, you know, I guess the agency made a deal with Tapper to break it through him. We have Representative Wolf of Virginia. memory what you were laughing about the snowden's dad about the the virginia area and about the virginia court is separate and so he is uh... in charge of contractors and cia who live there and he's very concerned about this uh... benghazi scandal and uh... he feels that uh... these thirty five

1:09:15 witnesses should be able to testify. I think it is a form of a cover-up and I think there is an attempt to push it under the rug and I think the American people feel the same way. We should have the people who are on the scene come in, testify on their oath, do it publicly and lay it out and there really isn't any national security issue involved with regard to that. I think that's a very good point. You know, he's saying there's no national security issue. Why would there be a problem? These people were there. We should be able to talk to them. Initially they were not afraid to come forward. They wanted the opportunity and they wanted to be subpoenaed. Because if you're subpoenaed, it sort of protects you. You're forced to come before Congress. Now that's all changed. So I think...

1:10:06 I think that the factions are at play once again and they're teasing the president. Yeah, yeah, well let me play, you gotta remind people about this clip which is the holder clip which I have here, where he will not say that the NSA, the CIA, anybody, any of these agencies aren't pulling a blackmail stunt on Congress and listening to their stuff. Just ask, could you assure to us that no phones inside the Capitol were monitored of members of Congress that would give a future executive branch, if they started pulling this kind of thing off, would give them unique leverage over the legislature?

1:10:54 With all due respect, Senator, I don't think this is an appropriate setting for me to discuss that issue. I'd be more than glad to come back in an appropriate setting to discuss a the issues that you have raised. And by the way, if you have 35... October surprise botch kidnapping of Chris Stevens. It went wrong. And just as a little backgrounder, you have to remember that except for that one statistician guy who was at the New York Times and went to work now for the ESPN, everybody during this period of this election

1:11:44 everybody was saying, oh the race is too close to call. Yep. Every, they're neck and neck, Romney's ahead, oh no. And this was of course done by the media on purpose because that's the only way they could keep getting money out of the coffers. Exactly. Of this election and I think that because the media was pulling the stunt of lying to the government about you know how close this election wasn't, I think that the Obama administration actually thought they could lose it. So it was their backup plan, it was their insurance and it went horribly wrong. We just got to reiterate.

1:12:21 that the first thing that happened is, remember it was all about some bogative video? A fake video. We watched that video about the life and times of Muhammad. It was bogative and everyone's lying and it's now almost a year later it's almost been forgotten except this is very annoying that these witnesses are out there and the CIA think Gowdy, he's the guy that's always yelling, the Republican, where's he from? He's from He's from Utah or something, you know the guy with the kind of narrow face and the gray hair. And he was on Fox with Greta Van Susteren and he gives us a little extra piece of information. And to hide them. They're dispersing around the country and of course the CNN report shows that even CIA operatives

1:13:08 who were there are getting intimidated from above. Including changing names, creating aliases. So you stop and think what things are most calculated to get at the truth, talk to people with first-hand knowledge, what creates the appearance or perhaps the reality of a cover-up? Not letting us talk to people who have the most amount of information, dispersing them throughout the country and changing their names. It's just one of those minor things. I've been thinking about this because of the 35 guys or how many there were. We knew there were guys that were ferried off and hidden. We always knew that because we figured that they'd blow the whistle. Because a botched kidnapping like this with a dead guy is not cool for anybody. I'm actually now thinking that there were two things going on at once and that's what caused the botched kidnapping.

1:14:03 The CIA was there transferring guns, they were doing something with that gun deal they got there, that's where their weapon cache was, and the State Department didn't know about it. They had said, this is just all conjecture. The State Department meanwhile is going to do this botched kidnapping thing and they got their guys hanging out there but meanwhile the two operations run into each other stupidly and it screws up the whole everything, gets screwed up and somehow some guys end up with Stevenson and then He ends up getting killed for whatever reason, we don't know any of the details because nobody will say anything. And that's why I think when Hillary first showed up, we both commented on this when it happened a year ago, she was steamed. She was so mad.

1:14:51 smoke was coming out of her ears because of this situation falling apart like this and I think she was blaming it. I think the CIA is partially responsible or part probably all the responsibility is theirs because they you know shouldn't have been there I guess I don't know but there's something if this thing is never gonna unravel unless they get a hold of those guys. Yeah, we know that they won't get a hold of them. No, they won't. I think we're going to have some very unfortunate accidents. We probably won't hear about them. It's just, you know, that's part of doing business in the intelligence community. And we've got more and more people who are a part of it. And actually, the second half of the show, I was thinking maybe... You know, from time to time I like to go back to stuff and I like to read like the Unabomber Manifesto or a lot of crazy stuff. I like to read it again to bring back history. Today I took some time. It's 15 minutes but I broke it down into three chunks of like a minute and a half. I watched Dwight Eisenhower's farewell speech.

1:15:49 Which is a great speech and he and and when you people listen to show plus a oh yeah That's where he talks about the military-industrial complex I actually I he talks about a lot more in that and I don't know if you what you think I was thinking of maybe playing those later and just commenting on the little bits of pieces that he was telling us in 1961 yeah, you're okay with that we do that later Yeah, we'll see if it becomes boring all bitch. Yeah, of course. Oh, I have a couple things I want to tell you about that that I learned while I was here. Okay. First of all, I want to make sure I want to get back to this Powell thing because I got his picture up here with his girlfriend. Okay. Well, let's do it now that we can do this later. Okay. Well, okay. So I'm looking at you're probably right. She looks like a like a like a goer. And

1:16:40 But I didn't realize this, Guccifer, the hacker who got his email. It's the same one who got Bush's emails. He got the Bush family emails, Lisa Murkowski in Alaska. I have no idea what the deal is with getting her email. But did you know he got John Doar's? John Doar's email? Yeah. Oh no, I didn't know that. Really? I didn't know that either. That's got to be fascinating. And that's got to be very close to Obama. Oh yeah, well you know, Doar is always trying to figure out who's going to be the president and give them, essentially give them as much money as he can. John Doar is like the head honcho of Kleiner Perkins, very famous. Right, a venture capitalist. And they've invested in Mevio, so I might as well disclose that. Not that it helps, because if he ever hears this he'll hate me.

1:17:32 Well, I don't think he likes you anyway. So the point is that, you know, Doar has got to be a lot of guys like this. Doar gives the money to, you know, whoever it is, Gore. Gave tons of money to Albert Gore. And then he brought Gore into the company as a stooge, as a shill. Yeah, with the Bono fund. Right, and meanwhile they've invested a lot of green stuff, they made nothing, this fund has been flat for the last decade. I think it's lost money. It could have lost money, yes. Whatever the point is, he keeps doing this because according to rumors, the idea is when you give somebody a lot of money, they give you an ambassadorship.

1:18:14 and he's been going, he wants the ambassadorship I think it's either to France or England. He wants one of the... He'll take anything at this point. Yeah, he probably would take Zimbabwe. He just wants it. Zimbabwe. Yeah. No, I think he'd be very disappointed if he got Zimbabwe. It's great. Send him to Zimbabwe. I got some good news and bad news. What's the good news? You're getting an ambassadorship. Yeah, where? Zimbabwe. Yeah, think of the potential. Is this Guccifer? Which is spelled G-U-C-C-I-F-E-R, which actually would be more like Gucci, Gucci fur. Yeah, Gucci fur. Where, what, this name has got to be some kind of clue that we're not figuring out. Now it's interesting that we've always called Hillary Clinton Lucifer, so I don't know if that's related, but Gucci fur, it's not, it's Gucci fur, it's Gucci fur. There's got to be some clue in there.

1:19:09 Yeah, I know. I see it and I go, I don't know, I haven't got a clue. But why Murkowski? I mean, I can see the John Doar thing. It makes me think he's a Silicon Valley guy, the Guccifer guy. Or he's in California somehow. But I don't get the Lisa Murkowski hack. It just doesn't make any sense to me. I don't know. He's a very interesting guy. Anyway, all right onward. Yeah. Well, we got to keep our eye on this. There's a lot of messaging going on I think that we're very close to something big happening I think something and you said and of course you reminded us that we have the 11th of August is our six-week cycle Something I think something international has got a spark off

1:19:53 I mean we need to release some kind of pressure and this is why... Well we've got to definitely take the pressure off of Keith Kaiser Alexander. Play the clip, I don't know if you have this one too, but play the Alexander Heckled clip. Yeah of course. I'm going to go off on a tangent on this but play this. Okay yeah of course. Sorry, I'm having a little trouble here. This is Alexander, our NSA guy, at the Black Hat conference giving a talk and this is what ensued. What's the decision? Where's the discussion? And what tools should we have to stop those? No, I'm saying I don't trust you!

1:20:34 I haven't lied to Congress. Okay, yeah, so this was a this was a black hat and I would like to remind people that both black hat and DEF CON were I think both these conferences were started by a guy who essentially now consults for the government. I don't know, they were both started by the same guy, I didn't know that. It's possible, I guess, why not? The two are back to back, which is kind of odd. Anyway, people that I talk to say that this is really a place for wannabes and weenie boys, and that's what I've heard, I'm not saying that. Please don't hack me. You'll find out tomorrow when your whole server is down. Everything's busted. Wannabes, weenie boys, here Curry, take this.

1:21:27 You're hurting the show when you keep attacking these guys. I'm not attacking, I'm just telling what I've heard from the inside. Well I think those, by the way, those two guys, those two hecklers, they're dead now by the way. No they're not. No they're not dead. They're walking dead, let's put it that way. So Alexander goes on there and I've got this other clip of him where he's pushing the 54 meme and every time this happens, this is a bold-faced lie and he sneaks it in as though it hasn't been discredited. I have clip after clip. I got Leahy, we have a clip of him going on about the 54 incidents of being bull crap. we have that one clip which I we can play again which I think is still a great clip about the 54 incidents being bull crap and he was briefing staff members of various congressional senators and congressmen and it was bull crap but meanwhile Alexander doesn't care he still uses this bull crap meme as though there's been 54 incidents that were stopped by this 215 part of the Patriot Act.

1:22:30 These programs are part of that effort. We understand and support the need to ensure we protect both civil liberties and national security. It's not one or the other, it must be both. We take the metadata from the service providers and place it into a virtual lockbox. The only way NSA can go into that lockbox is if we have what is called reasonable, articulable suspicion of a selector that is related to terrorism. In all of 2012, we approved less than 300 selectors, such as telephone numbers, to initiate queries into that virtual lockbox. These programs have helped us connect the dots, as I've just used in OPPiRISE, but our allies have benefited too.

1:23:21 On 21 June, last week, last Friday, we provided 54 cases to several congressional committees in which these programs contributed to our understanding and in many cases helped enable the disruption of terrorist plots in the US and in over 20 countries throughout the world. What a douche. It's bullcrap. I'd hate to do this. This will be the last time I do this. No, no, it's not going to be the last time. You have to play the actual cases clip, which is a guy briefing Congress, congressional staff members about this

1:23:57 this 54 bull crap because apparently he knows all these cases and this is a great little lecture that's very short and he talks about how this is just bogus. And then when you start looking at exactly what that means, you say well how many of those 215 actually used specifically this metadata program? And it says well the majority we believe so, okay six or seven and then what are those cases? Well the cases he described, one involved finding someone who had been donating money to Shabab, the Ethiopian terror group, and of course, you know, absolutely find and prosecute those people. But that's not exactly a terror plot foiled, and it's not clear in that case... Is it a terror plot foiled or created? Is that maybe what it is? Why the same thing could not have been achieved using traditional tools like subpoenas and targeted pen registers and records orders.

1:24:53 through a link to a known terrorist email address already being monitored. Whatever use was made of 215 later, again, not clear why a more targeted use of that would not have been possible. There was this other case involving a supposed plot to bomb a military base in the Middle East. New York Stock Exchange. Was it a serious plot? Deputy Director Sean Joyce for the FBI says, well, the jury thought it was serious because they were all convicted. As it turns out, there was no jury trial. They were not convicted of plotting terrorism. These were people who were convicted, again, of material support for a terrorist organization, meaning, again, assistance, money. And the New York Stock Exchange,

1:25:34 part of it appears to have involved the fact that the U.S. person involved in this case scoped out several tourist targets, didn't provide very useful information, and it appears to have been abandoned. The U.S. attorney who worked that case said there was no specific plot. So I think we should treat with some skepticism. If these are the showpiece cases they're bringing up to justify the bulk collection of all Americans' phone and possibly internet records, it's not clear that that is a justification that passes that cost-benefit test. Bullshit! Exactly. Now, I gotta do this now because when I heard that Alexander clip...

1:26:18 I just know it's going to fit right in. Let's listen one more time to Kaiser Alexander and listen to how he's talking, listen to his tone, listen to the condescending but also the authoritarian tone of his voice. What's the decision? Where's the discussion? And what tools should we have to stop those? No, I'm saying I don't trust you. You lied to Congress. Why would we believe you're not lying to us right now? I haven't lied to Congress. All right, now let's go back to 1961 where the country was warned for exactly this. Any failure traceable to arrogance or our lack of comprehension or readiness to sacrifice would inflict upon us grievous hurt both at home and abroad.

1:27:11 Progress toward these noble goals is persistently threatened by the conflict now engulfing the world. It commands our whole attention, absorbs our very beings. We face a hostile ideology, global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose and insidious in method. Unhappily, the danger it poses promises to be of indefinite duration. To meet it successfully, There is call for not so much the emotional and transitory sacrifices of crisis, but rather those which enable us to carry forward steadily, surely, and without complaint, the burdens of a prolonged and complex struggle

1:28:00 with liberty the state. So this is the preamble that Eisenhower gave to telling us that the military-industrial complex would take over our entire economy, our country, and in pursuit of a complete atheist agenda but truly New World Order crap that this Kaiser Alexander is part of. American makers of plowshares could with time and as required make swords as well. This is before we were making anything. But we got that he literally said that he said we don't make anything we make well we were yeah we can make swords no that's what he said in 1961. We can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense. We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this three and a half million men and women

1:28:55 are directly engaged in the defense establishment. the war essentially and then they mostly about the Roosevelt administration. He talks about how he ramped up like maniacs and created a defense industry in World War II that was just astonishing and it was pretty hard to pull it, rein it back and you had to keep it going and then you have the Cold War which made it necessary to keep the defense industry. To keep it going. Yeah, to keep it going. Now it's bigger

1:29:36 And now it's like the defense contractors, in fact, Snowden would be stuck being judged by. Anyway, go on. We annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all United States corporations. Someone must have said, hey, wait a minute. This is a good deal. We've got to get in on this. Let's get on this gravy train. Yeah, wait a minute, you guys can be all those companies combined? Screw y'all, I'm gonna be on this side of the equation. The conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence, economic, political, even spiritual, is felt in every city, every state house, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development.

1:30:31 yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. Well, I think we kind of screwed up on that one. Yeah, we're over. It's done. Now, just the speech, you know, it's interesting to listen to him talk because compare what he says in terms of like the

1:31:23 I'm not going to use the word gravitas, I'm going to use just the substance of what he says in general just throughout that whole speech and most of his speeches. Compare that to Obama who does nothing but moan and groan and then he keeps promoting himself. He's never said anything of substance. No, yes he has. I have two words for you. Predator drones. Yeah, that's what he says. That's exactly what I've been warned for. Two words, predator drones. Now, of course, this was a president, man. So anyway, so I'm here talking to Mickey's family. You know, Mickey's uncle is, he's 83 and it was very nice.

1:32:12 He took us to the Rijksmuseum, which has been reopened. The Rijksmuseum is beautiful. They've redone everything. It was closed for, I don't know, like eight years or something. So they've really done a great job. They've relaunched this thing. And his father actually was a member of the committee that put together the original Rijksmuseum collection. So he knows everything. You walk with this guy through the halls and he's really fine art and of course Dutch artists is what he knows most about. He'll say like, oh this is when Rembrandt was portraying Paul and this is, there's a little note on the ground and that's like supposed to signify a love letter, whatever. And you go and you read the sign on the painting and it's exactly that. The guy knows everything. It's really astounding. But he's a Marxist.

1:31:23 I'm not going to use the word gravitas, I'm going to use just the substance of what he says in general just throughout that whole speech and most of his speeches. Compare that to Obama who does nothing but moan and groan and then he keeps promoting himself. He's never said anything of substance. No, yes he has. I have two words for you. Predator drones. Yeah, that's what he says. That's exactly what I've been warned for. Two words, predator drones. Now, of course, this was a president, man. So anyway, so I'm here talking to Mickey's family. You know, Mickey's uncle is, he's 83 and it was very nice.

1:32:12 He took us to the Rijksmuseum, which has been reopened. The Rijksmuseum is beautiful. They've redone everything. It was closed for, I don't know, like eight years or something. So they've really done a great job. They've relaunched this thing. And his father actually was a member of the committee that put together the original Rijksmuseum collection. So he knows everything. You walk with this guy through the halls and he's really fine art and of course Dutch artists is what he knows most about. He'll say like, oh this is when Rembrandt was portraying Paul and this is, there's a little note on the ground and that's like supposed to signify a love letter, whatever. And you go and you read the sign on the painting and it's exactly that. The guy knows everything. It's really astounding. But he's a Marxist.

1:32:58 And he's written these Marxist books, very interesting, Back to the Salmon is what it's called. He's published and he's been this kind of historian, art historian, but also completely Marxist. He actually did a video when Occupy Wall Street started, he tried to, before it was co-opted, he was like, oh you guys are on the right track, this is right, you gotta do the right thing. And so he is one of these guys, he sits around in the cafes. He lives in Utrecht, which is kind of in between Amsterdam and The Hague. And he sits in these cafes and drinks coffee and or gin with his older Marxist buddies. And so of course, I'm like, hey, we were talking about Marx on the show. He says, well, what do you mean? I said, well, it turns out he was a journalist. He said, oh, yeah, duh.

1:33:47 you know and then he went in this whole thing about it was actually him and Engels and Engels had you know been up to Manchester and had seen firsthand so them to get so he goes in this whole story about Marx and I'm interested you know because you know he's like kind of like a Dvorak plus in that regard. And then I'm saying, okay, so Willem, so what is the answer? You and your buddies, you're all sitting around and you're Marxist, you see that the capitalist thing is falling apart, we know we can't keep printing money forever. I say, what's the solution? What do you think they came up with? I don't know, but it sounds like you're leading up to something funny. He said pandemic. Oh, yeah, yeah, I can see that. He said pandemic or a war.

1:34:32 But he says pandemic will be nice. You said that's it then you know, then you know, there's not like fighting It's just you know, people just kind of die and there's people dropping in the street. Yeah And all your loved ones dead. This is what the Marxist guys came up with like wow Really? We're so screwed And then just to finish off my Amsterdam experience I I had dinner with my first boss, you know the guy who has the house in Bonaire and has the Warhol collection. Right, yeah, you talked about him before. Yeah, okay. So we had dinner with him. You're supposed to introduce me. Well, you haven't been around. You gotta come over here.

1:35:11 So we had dinner with him and his girlfriend. They've been together for, I don't know, four years or something. And her name is Fariba. And she's from Tehran. And she's lived in the Netherlands for a while. But she goes back, you know, every like three, four times a year to see her mom and her sisters. She's a Persian? Yeah, she's Iranian. Yeah, Iranian I should say and Ronnie, but she could be Arab too, but she's Persian probably she is Persian Yes, and in fact, you know, they both went, you know They they toured around Iran and he had to go, you know They had to get married and he had to go to a mullah and the mullah had to approve it Otherwise they couldn't even you know sleep in the same room together and I'm like don't tell me you know, what's what's going on? You know, did the do the people in Iran hate Americans? She said I

1:35:56 So what are you talking about? He says we love Americans. We've got, you know, every product we have is, it says made in the USA on it. They've got a Burger King, a fake Burger King in Tehran and it has the logo but it's not an official Burger King but they even have replicated the menu. He says we love everything American. Everyone knows that the mullahs and all those guys, they're working directly with the Americans. Everyone in Iran thinks it's a big joke. Yeah, that didn't surprise me. Right? Yeah, but that's what the basic thesis of our show is that all this stuff is going on, you know, this all fake, everything's... What? They're lying? No! What? How can they lie like that? I can't believe it! That's not okay! But it was just so nice to get that reiterated. There's lying going on.

1:36:49 No. What are we gonna do? Yeah, and I said, you know, I'd really love to see you. She said, just get a visa. You should get a visa, no problem. Lots of Americans are over there. Yeah, yeah, I'd love to go to Iran. Apparently it's not that much of a problem to get a visa. I don't think it is. It's all bull crap, whatever, you know. You may have somebody asking you some questions, but that's about it. Yeah, but I was just surprised. I didn't know about the Burger King. Wouldn't you love to have a... So they'll have a photo of that place. I'm sure one of the burgers. Hey, this is goat meat! She won't go into it. She says, I can't eat there. But yet, when she goes there, her family cooks a whole sheep's head and she has to eat the tongue with hair on it.

1:37:36 I've heard about this sort of thing. Yeah, there's what they consider that I always wonder about some cultures where there's like a built-in like let's humiliate the top guest with my pretending that this is our delicacy and they're the only ones who get to eat it. And they have to eat it or they're insulting us. Congratulations! Yeah, I said I'm not coming to your mom's house if she's gonna feed me the tongue with the hair on it. I won't eat it. I just won't eat it. She says, well, you might like it. No, no, no, no. It doesn't sound likely. Adam's gonna read his email on the No Agenda show. I do have a couple of doozies, John. I've been holding on to them for about a week or two.

1:38:21 Alright, hit it. First one, Adam John, I know you guys called out the sniper laser dot in the Sarneff pictures as after the fact manipulation. I can do you a few better. Now you know what we're talking about here, these are the pictures that were released by the, was it Boston Magazine, by the cop? Yeah, or something. I can't remember what the source was, but yeah, they were faked. Yeah, we thought they were pretty fake and where was the shot in the throat? None of it made any sense. He said, as a guy who actually went to army sniper school, I can assure you no sniper would ever put a stupid laser pointer on their weapon, particularly a visible light laser pointer. Here are a few reasons why not. One,

1:39:05 Lasers go both fucking ways. What is the point of getting your hide set up? Getting a firing position on the target and then sending a laser out to tell anyone who was watching where you are. Now, obviously this email is from Tyler and we only call him Tyler because he's in the services and knows about this stuff. This is our producers. These are the people who know what they're talking about. Two. At the kind of range you would want to use your rifle, 200 to 1,000 yards, the laser could be anywhere between the size of a quarter up close to the size of a dinner plate at longer ranges. Nothing says duck like seeing a giant red dinner plate jumping around your location. And by the way, most of these guys do shoot, they'll shoot a mile. Yeah. And that laser is going to be a huge dot. Yeah, so there's no laser. Three.

1:39:54 No fine adjustment on laser sights. Good high magnification scopes have fine adjustment controls so that you can adjust for range, elevation, wind speed, wind direction, humidity, temperature, etc. Lasers do not. Lasers travel in straight lines whereas bullets have an annoying tendency to follow the laws of physics and travel in an arc. Don't you love it when people just set everything straight and make it real simple for you? Any foot away from the guy at the laser would be accurate. Yeah. Any real shooter will leave the damn laser pointer in the conference room. They're only really useful in CQB situations where the person with the weapon is not highly practiced at sight acquisition, i.e. my wife's pistol. In summary, i.e. I call it bullshit! Bullshit! Okay, thank you very much, Tyler. Then we have two emails regarding Spectre 360.

1:40:50 You remember John, Spectre 360 is the spy program that is used by businesses worldwide apparently to spy on their employees and we talked about this. And first we got from Phil, Adam and John, I'm a sysadmin for an IT management company and a few of our clients insist on using Spectre. The thing is, not only does it not work because of exactly what John said with just having a bunch of tabs and windows open, It does not automatically detect suspicious behavior like the ad clip you played on the show, but moreover, it breaks everything. Network is bogged down from all the video being captured. Systems are bogged down from encoding that video. Then there are all the compatibility issues. The newest Microsoft Office versions won't work if Spectre is loaded. Browsers crash for no reason. And there are three numerous problems with line of business apps.

1:41:48 So because of all this, half the people don't have it loaded on their machines and of course the execs never have it loaded. I thought I could provide some insight so I took the time to write this up, keep up the great work, recent shows have been great, enjoy your pseudo vacation, etc. So there you get props for calling it. However, we did also get an email from producer Chris, Adam and John, listening to you and John talk about Spectre spyware monitoring software. I have some experience with this. I've used it a few times to help friends of the family catch cheating spouses or to keep an eye on those who have wandered before.

1:42:27 But anyway, these guys all turned out to be assholes in the end. How pleasant. So I don't mind doing it. The software works pretty well, he says, and doesn't slow down systems too much. See, I think this is a sales guy. Because now he's saying the Spectre software I use, which is not 360, they have several tiers and versions. Allowed for the recording of keystrokes entire documents if you open the dot-doc or anything else website history click history XY YX time etc has separate logging forms for web chats email which it keeps categorized and sorted for you conveniently You can customize the screenshot settings for compression time between shots 5 10 30 seconds. You believe this crap? This is what goes on in your company and people are complaining about the government

1:43:20 I think the first guy is probably right, there's not a lot of use of this thing. But as a keylogger, and if you just only use some of the features, then keylogging is like one of the tools that a lot of people find useful because then you essentially catch passwords. I mean if you get somebody all their passwords using a keylogger, then you can go into their email box and look at it without having it come to you. You can just look at it on your own machine because moving all that data back and forth is not... But you don't even need to do that. I mean certainly not for corporate email. You can just go and look in the corporate email. It would have to be for someone using a gmail or some external account. I think the point is

1:43:59 is just how sad, what a sad state of affairs that this is going on at all. Yeah, no it's sick. Then the final one, this was speaking of sick. I'm gonna give the guy's name here. Bernard Kuban. Hey Adam, I'm sure you noticed how JCD was very quick to mention what a great journalist Glenn Greenwald is. This is only one of a gazillion examples debunking this guy as the shill he is. Let me tell you, it's time to face the facts. John actually does have an agenda. On top of it, it's a Jewish agenda. I know this show is your sole income source and you don't want to get too controversial, but I also sense you are on to what this is all about. So please don't be fooled by this guy John C. Dvorak. He is not what he claims to be.

1:44:56 PS911 was a Mossad job. You've been uncovered! I've unmasked you! Yeah, where's my check from the Mossad? That's exactly what I wrote back to him. I said, where's the money? Where's the money? Where's the money? Show us the money. Show me the money. We always enjoy you sending emails. Before we go on to what we're going to do next, which I believe will be the... Yes, correct, correct. Foot! Not a foot, but a hand. Yeah. Hand found. Here's the clip. Now I know. It's very disturbing. Very disturbing. New at 5, a mystery on an Oregon beach. A man and his granddaughter discovered a decomposed hand washed up near Gearhart yesterday. Oregon State Police say a retired police officer and a nine-year-old found it near the high tide line

1:45:53 When he realized what it was, he moved it away from the approaching water so it wouldn't wash back out into the ocean. State troopers searched the area, but they didn't find any other remains. The hand is now being examined by the Clatsop County Medical Examiner. You know, I heard that clip and I saw the video. I just had a vision of the guy and his kid with a stick moving the hand. You know what I mean? Poking the hand up towards high water. See if it moves. Yeah, so what do you make of this? So that we have not had a report of a foot for a long time I mean it used to be a theme of our show every couple weeks there'd be a foot washing up on one foot in his in a sneaker washing up on the west coast and Now there's a hand so maybe we're gonna be a new trend and notice it was not a hand in a glove were there any rain? Oh, it's just a hand. Yeah, we never got a Could be a one-off. I will have to keep our eye on it

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1:58:08 apparently routinely get it yourself I don't know I gotta say not a dishonest person let's put it that way. No of course not. Very straightforward. The hotel and restaurant staff and bar staff in Gitmo Lowlands has gotten so bad and I think it's because you know this whole country is now part-time I think the Netherlands is like number... yeah no seriously, everyone's talking about Germany, about how great Germany's doing. Well yeah, Germans only work 29 hours a week. Because, you know, the social economic model says we got to have everybody working so everyone has to cut in your hours so we can hire more part-time people. And the Netherlands is now doing that. They're very good at this. But the Dutch people also enjoy it. You know, they may laugh at the Greeks and call them lazy, which we know factually is not true, that the Greeks actually were the most productive of all the Europeans. The Dutch are also, they're like, you know, they're right up there with, you know, in the 29-hour mark.

1:59:11 And of course, yeah. But they like it. Like, you know, I don't need much. You know, as long as I can, I don't want to work. I just want to hang out a little bit. And this, of course, is what the plan is for America. Everyone has to basically give up half their job, live in squalor. Yeah, and not get by. Yeah. Well, barely get by. Yeah, barely get by. American dream. It's the American dream. Oh man, and I saw the president did his speech again, his Hail Everybody speech, and the whole thing about the American bargain, it makes me so sad. It's just like, this is not a good deal. This is not what the dream is all about. No, the dream is about the Clintons.

1:59:58 And I think we talked a little bit about Carlos Danger. Here we have Anthony Weiner running for mayor of New York. And by the way, I still think he could possibly win this thing. I think he might. That's how pathetic the New Yorkers are. How many nights do we even have from New York City? I think one maybe. Dame Tanya. No, Dame Tanya, yeah, she's from the area. Generally speaking, New Yorkers are very, they're an enclave and they're a weird closed society and they'd vote an idiot like this in. They voted Bloomberg in four times I believe. No, it's worse than that. I mean, they're laughing about Wiener like, ha ha ha ha.

2:00:43 But he's gonna get voted in because they don't they're too stupid to understand how it works We have tons of nights and dames in New Jersey where all the smart people are hello So now so we have this weird situation. I think that I can kind of figure out what's going on We have to go back and remind ourselves that uh... anthony wiener uh... was a congressman uh... he's he was always chuck schumer's boy but also definitely the clinton's whom i have been in his wife uh... has been uh... the hillary clinton's uh... chief of staff her body man as they call it in dc i've been with the clinton's for many many years bill clinton officiated their wedding uh... you know but i believe that whom i have a dean has a uh...

2:01:29 relationship with Hillary Clinton and that Anthony Weiner was essentially the beard and of course then it makes sense when you think about it the guy is sexually frustrated so he's always you can't do much because he has to play this role but you gotta play the game you gotta play the game and he was being teed up and he blew it Chuck Schumer has pretty much disowned the guy at this point and now we know who they're gonna get to replace Schumer the idea was that that Weiner was going to become the next Schumer. He was going to be Schumer exactly And Schumer now he can't, you know, so he has to prove himself by staying in politics. That's why he's running for mayor. He wants to get back on track. And he figures that, you know, every one of these little incidents that he has is sex sting and all the rest of it. But this is the problem. It keeps coming back and Huma is standing by him.

2:02:17 Oh yeah, no, she looks like an idiot in this thing. Well, I think there's a couple things we've forgotten about her that we have to remind ourselves of. First let's go to an ABC report. Bill and Hillary Clinton haven't come out and told him to quit, but several former Clinton aides and advisors tell ABC News The Clintons increasingly see Weiner's mayoral campaign as an embarrassment and potential liability should Hillary, who had lunch with the president on Monday, run for his office in 2016. One Clinton associate said the Clintons are bristling at the comparisons between Hillary and Huma and between Bill and Weiner. The Clintons aren't the only ones whose patience has run out. Okay, so that's ABC's report. Then we have the Huffington Post. It's a New York story, but it's also a national story, which

2:03:01 which is the story, which is that Anthony Weiner and his wife, Huma, are very close to the Clintons, especially Huma. A lot of Bill and Hillary Clinton supporters, loyalists, people who have known Huma over the years because she was Hillary's chief of staff and very close to the family. A lot of those Clinton loyalists are wondering whether they should invest in Anthony Weiner anymore. Some of them have invested already. There are clear signals that a lot of people in the Clinton camp would like to see Wiener leave. So it wasn't until the next kind of compilation clip from CNN that I realized what is going on. This is not about Anthony Wiener. Anthony Wiener, he had his shot and he was always a sideline deal. This is about Huma Abedin. The irony, not lost on a lot of people, that she saw a front row seat to what went on with the Clintons. Now she's experiencing her own version of it.

2:03:59 What is being said here is this is a repeat of the script. She's also incredibly politically sophisticated. Not only did she learn the knee of Hillary Clinton, the most famous kind of stand by her man political wife, she also was the go-to person for anyone who wanted to get to Hillary Clinton. Clearly, Huma's playing using the Hillary Clinton playbook. She's such an intelligent woman and she clearly has taken notes from Hillary Clinton, her longtime employer and mentor. Now, Huma may be taking a page from mentors playbook uh... playbook et cetera kuma abedin who is a known operative of the muslim sisterhood member we went through all this john when she comes out here relatives are on the broad brotherhood she's in what they call the sisterhood uh... this lots and lots of questions about uh... relationships between her her friends her family the clinton library

2:04:52 Kuma Abedin is going to run for something. This is about her. They are totally play, there's a total replay. Because after the, you know, we had Hillary sticking by Bill and she went on to become Senator of New York, which didn't she slip in? How did, I forget how that worked. Did she run fair and square? I can't really remember. I think she did run, now we have to look at the book of knowledge, but I think somebody vacated and I think there was an election. I think she won the election if I'm not mistaken. It was so long ago. Right. And here we are. She was sir for a couple years. But she's about to be our next president. This is a big deal. Huma Abedin. Well let's talk about this a little bit because

2:05:36 Yeah, no, I understand what... yeah, I think you're right that Uma's gonna do something. You know, just one of those people in Washington that just finds a... they'll find a spot for her in the party, they'll put her in. But, you know, one of these safe spots, there's always a safe place to go. Maybe for the first round. But then, because right now you cannot, because of the way this has been set up, you cannot question her. Because she is the traumatized woman, she's the wife who he's cheating on her, with the pervert, but she's standing there, and by the way,

2:06:14 this is for all the feminism that hillary is supposed to stand for it is obscene the way she is just standing there and saying okay whatever i'll stand by my man that is crazy and no one is calling her on it so this is all about the political setup for whom i have a dean yeah well she i wouldn't be surprised if she didn't run into one of the cycles especially if weiner loses which he will or quits But I'm kind of interested in trying to analyze what's going on with I'm Ready for Hillary, which I'm on the mailing list so I get a bunch of this stuff. And I have a bumper sticker they sent, which I believe will be a collectible. And it says, and I'm thinking of putting on somebody's windshield, I think that would be good. Whose?

2:07:01 There's a neighbor, you know, Obama bot. I think I might need a copy of this. This is the same guy, this Obama bot with all the bumper stickers and circles. The same guy who used to have a sticker that said impeach Bush. Yeah, well that disappeared and you know there's no impeach Obama, that's for sure. It's really weird the way these people think. Anyway, so I'm getting a lot of mailings. I'm getting everything short. I'm getting mailings from the White House. I'm getting mailings from I'm Ready for Hillary, which is supposedly an independent organization that's got nothing to do with Hillary, as if she's got nothing to do with this thing. I think that they're starting this campaign so... I mean, this is earlier than the last one, which everyone said this was ridiculous. It went on forever.

2:07:54 This is going to just chew up nothing but money. I don't think that Hillary, I think Hillary can win the next presidency, but I still believe that her organization is mediocre. That's why I think that Obama, somebody called us out, they've been listening to the show for a long time and said, well I'm starting over from all the shows. Dvorak predicted that it was Hillary's gonna be the president and then Obama came along and I don't know if you predicted he was gonna beat her or whatever but it was soon apparent that the organizations were different and differently structured and the Hillary organization was just arrogant they just thought they had it in the bag. Also remember Bill came out and he made some statements that were borderline racist and I think that also kind of blew chances there.

2:08:44 Yeah, whatever the case is, I don't believe Hillary has a strong organization. They just have an enthusiastic bunch of amateurs. And I think that going this soon into the cycle, like right now, over two years away, running for president. I think it may not work. This is way too far out. I think you just burn out. Do you think that this Hillary 2016, or Ready for Hillary, do you think that they're an official sanctioned group or this is just a bunch of enthusiasts? No, I think there's no way that this is just a bunch of enthusiasts. There are Hillary's behind this, or her organization,

2:09:21 Her campaign organization is behind this. There's no doubt about it. The messaging is identical to the messaging you got from Obama. The bumper sticker is too slick to be a bunch of amateurs. And I don't think that they would put up with letting a bunch of amateurs come out of the blue. Oh, it's grassroots. There's no such thing anymore. They wouldn't put up with it. Somebody would come knocking on the door and say, look, we're going to run Hillary, but you can't do this because this is not following our playbook. And so it's part of the playbook, there's no doubt in my mind about that. But I think it's a burnout situation. I don't know if she can make the whole... I mean, she's gonna be...

2:09:59 I've seen it a little differently. I'm thinking that she'll let this move along. They're looking for like 30, 40, 50,000 people or whatever to keep something going, keep the fires going. Because you got a lot of people, particularly women, who are really, really looking forward to this. And you got to keep the battleground movement, that woman that I talked about that I met at a dinner party. in the battleground texas you can get it you gotta keep that going and i think they're waiting to see who's gonna pop out of the woodwork which you probably and now you said they'll probably the republicans are probably run uh... romney again which i find fascinating well i mean that is one of the schemes but i don't

2:10:38 It would be suicidal to run Romney against him. That's what I thought, but I think Petraeus... They don't have any... I don't know that they have anybody that they can beat Hillary with. Anybody. I mean, I think they're gonna try to promote... there's a couple guys are gonna try to promote from my looking at it. Ted Cruz is one of them. And I think Ted Cruz is an idiot. I've watched him. He's supposed to be this great conservative. He's got the right ideas from Texas. and all the rest of it but I've listened to him he's got a very he's got a slightly annoying slightly screechy voice his voice is very unmanly and he has a kind of a... listen to some of his speeches and tell me what you think but Cruz is like they're teeing him up I think they've already pushed that Florida guy what's his name the good-looking Cuban guy Rubio

2:11:31 Rubio, I think they've already, somebody came and took him aside and said you're not gonna, you know, we're not gonna support you. Now I'm looking at something way different. Here's the scenario I see. The only way, because of course we know that, first of all, for those of you not living in America, but for a lot of Americans, it's not just two parties you can vote for. We have independents, we have all kinds of crazy third parties that are very interesting to listen to, you know, those libertarians. It's not just a two-party system, although the media does pretty much portray it that way and most people are stupid, uninformed, and get hoodwinked into it.

2:12:10 So the only way that we can usurp Hillary is to kick off a war near the end of the Obama term and bring in a war guy like Portreus. Because then the American people will be conned into thinking, well, you know, really, what kind of experience does she have? You know, she's a woman. No one will say this, but you know, she's a woman. We really need a guy. You know, we're at war. World War III is breaking out. The Middle East is on fire. Russia's angry at us. Russia and China's together. That is, I think, the playbook that would work for them.

2:12:49 Yeah, it would. I think Petraeus is damaged goods. uh... and i also don't think he's he's somebody that people would like as a president he's very he's condescending patronizing arrogant in his gut is that he was a company that you mean unlike obama but it might be so bomb it is a little bit of a delight badges as well well they should they should have a should have all bomb a one oh bomb a two so we can tell them apart you know it's very hard very difficult one should go into where the bad as you know that i have to uh... I don't know. I mean, I don't see anybody... Of course, it's over two years away, so our speculation is completely nuts. Except for Hillary, we know she's going to run for sure, unless, you know, she burns out or something weird happens. And if she does run, then we suspect, and I think we both agree on this, that she's probably going to have Bill killed near the end of the election. Yeah, very, very unfortunate. Unfortunate heart attack. Massive heart attack.

2:13:54 The question is, will she get one final embarrassing bit in there? Like, you know, have it being on top of a hooker? No. No, you don't think so? That'd be distracting. No, it'd be jogging. Bathtub, bathtub. That's always a good one. Bathtub. Bathtub. Jogging or giving a speech. Like, who was the comedian? Tommy, whatever. What was his name? Remember him? There's been a couple of comedians with the crazy with the crazy fez hat on he was he was legendary Tommy Remember she has had it. Yeah He was famous and he collapsed right on stage and people were laughing at him for like three minutes the guy's dead

2:14:37 Tommy... Yes, slightly. Hold on a second. I should know this. So Tommy with a fez. Tommy Comedian died on stage... Tommy Cooper. Never heard of him. You've never heard of Tommy Cooper? No. Wow. Okay, he's British, but when you see the guy, if you Wikipedia him, he's always had like a cigar in his face and a red fez hat. He was super, super, super famous. Maybe in England. Yeah, well, super famous in England. He was kind of funny.

2:15:18 I do have some, I think some... Oh that guy. Yeah I've seen him before. I think I have some interesting pointers that showed up in the Federal Register that are showing us that stuff is happening and stuff is moving on and one of them actually relates to Libya which... Can I interrupt you for a second? Yeah sure. There's actually a clip of him dying on LiveLeak. Yeah I know. This is a famous clip, the guy dies on, you see how you're watching it right now? It's horrible. He gets it, you can see it, he gets like a massive heart attack and everyone's like, oh, that's funny. And then after like two minutes everyone's like, hey Tommy, you know, we're still laughing but the gag's over dude.

2:16:02 and they're going sorry uh... okay two things that are a little disturbing the show for the federal register these are things that the real journalists uh... should be bringing to you and writing up and i don't know like the new york times or a wall street journal an amendment has been added to the international traffic in arms regulations libya and the u n s c are two zero nine or five And this relates back to the original two United Nations resolutions that we read. Gosh, I was still living in Los Angeles at the time. There was a resolution 1970 and 1973, these two resolutions about Libya which essentially gave the international community carte blanche to go and do anything we needed, bomb them, do whatever, and oh by the way, if anything changed we could just change the rules and go bomb them again. Remember it was like crazy we read those two.

2:16:58 So this is an amendment and the Department of State is amending the International Traffic and Arms Regulation Treaty to update the defense trade policy regarding Libya to reflect Resolution 2095 as adopted by the United Nations and essentially it's a lot of really complicated legalese and I mean I would just bore you by reading it all but essentially what it says is because it forbade any weapons from being imported into Libya. Well that doesn't count anymore. That's no longer, if someone wants to bring some American weapons in it's hereby approved. So we're going to bring tons of weapons in there

2:17:45 And simultaneously we get a presidential memorandum which is always fun because this is not necessarily an executive order, it's just kind of like a post-it note. delegation of authority pursuant to section 404 C of the child soldiers for prevention act of 2008 as amendment amended this is from President Obama by the authority vested in me as president by the Constitution blah blah blah I delegate to the Secretary of State that would be John F. Kerry the authority conferred upon the president by the child soldiers prevention act of 2008 to determine consistent with section 404c of the act whether to waive the application to somalia now did that mean anything to you when you just heard me read that yeah it means that they're now going to do was

2:18:38 That means they're finally going to catch Kony. No. They're going to do something in Somalia based on this little provision, which is no child soldiers allowed. Right. So you have to go to the act and look at section 404A to which section 404C pertains. 404A in general subject to subsections B, C and D. The authorities contains blah blah blah. I'll just skip through all the control act, all the numbers. uh... arms export control act may not be used to provide assistance to and no license for direct commercial sales of military equipment may be issued to the government or a country that is clearly identified pursuant to subsection b for the most recent years preceding the fiscal year as using child soldiers in other words

2:19:27 The president has just said that John F. Kerry, the Secretary of State, may waive under the act Section 404C and export guns to Somalia even though they use child soldiers. And I think this is something that should be reported upon because we are not supposed to support this kind of activity unless that we're up to no good. And that up to no good thing, well for that I'd like to bring us back to, let me see, is it a part of the West Clark 7, do we know? Or Somalia, the West Clark? I was actually, while you were discussing it, here's the 7. Iraq? I have it here. Syria? So I came back to see him a few weeks ago. You want to hear him say it?

2:20:12 Yeah, here, yeah. And by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper and he said, I just, he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the secretary of defense office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. Oh, there you go. Gee, and he said he he said Iran instead of Iran Which may be code for it. We're not gonna do them whatever the case. Yeah, Somalia is in there also, but Dean why oil? Sorry oil Come on. Somalia's got tons of resort. Where is Somalia? Let's take a look. It's in the middle of nowhere. No, I don't want to go. Oh

2:21:10 You haven't been invited. If you're in Somalia and you listen to the NO Agenda show, please let us know if we should do a Hot Pockets tour there. Let me see, Somalia. Somalia is... John, it's south of Yemen, which it should be on that list and it's not. It's right there on the little knob there. It's a coastal country. It's Ethiopia. Just north of Kenya. Oh, it's right by Djibouti. Hello, right by Djibouti. And it's right by where the Stargate is. That's right. The Gulf of Aden. So they got a lot of fish and pirates apparently.

2:21:55 But also Lebanon is on the list and I was talking to Badeen who was the backup driver to taxi Eric And he's from Lebanon. He goes back a couple days a year and he says, ah, it's so bad He says Beirut is so horrible people are blowing themselves up. He says the CIA is all over the place You know al-qaeda said the Sunnis and the Shias there, you know, the Shiites they're all crazy. He says it's a repeat is the Beirut misses member the 70s gonna be the same thing all over again, right? So that's your region, destabilized, good to go, World War III can start any time now. I don't know whether they're going to start with rocks or busted up bricks. It's a mess. Yeah.

2:22:44 Well, I guess that's it for this show. No, you can't be short. So Maynard sent me a note, he may have sent you to poor Maynard, you know, in Australia. You're not really going to make me play this clip, are you? Seriously. Just the part, you don't have to play the whole thing. It's stupid. It's just you have to, I just like the clip because of you can visualize it and it's this note of disinterest. But Maynard's apparently sitting in his underwear nowadays, spending most of his time watching this, I guess it's a website called Topless Women Read Books. And so some woman is trying to read the Declaration of Independence in some disinterested manner and so I clipped it. It's dumb. It's dumb. When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands. It shows everything that is wrong with humanity. Her boobs are not pretty.

2:23:46 She's sitting there, she's sitting there reading, she doesn't even understand what she's reading. She doesn't know what she's reading. She can barely pronounce half the words. It's a mockery. I think we've got the clue. It's a mockery. So anyway, so that's that. So Maynard, get your act together. There is one thing we need to talk about. Because it was, everyone was, you even put it in the newsletter for Christ's sake, excuse me for taking the Lord's name in vain. Yeah, we just lost a donor who's never donated. Every time you cuss, by the way, like that, I get a note. It comes in. This guy's in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I might as well tell you this. You've kept it from me to protect me so far? Yeah.

2:24:29 So I get a note from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania with no return address, no nothing. And it's a note. And he just goes crazy. Oh, Adam Sward used the Lord's name in vain twice in show 510. And then he says, I'll never donate. You know, this is a I like people who find excuses not to donate. And it's just like I look at this note and I just chuck it right in the garbage, because it's just like some guy won't even say who he is, and he's just bitching and moaning about you using the Lord's name in vain. Anyway. Well, here's the only thing I have to say about that. This show is, I think, worth its weight in gold, or whatever doubloons you give us.

2:25:15 And you can see that we are, you know, we're rising steadily with our 1, 2, 3 percent of the total audience supporting the show while mainstream publications like the Boston Globe which was originally purchased for 1.1 billion dollars, 1.1 billion dollars just sold for 70 million dollars. That tells you something about the quality of the mainstream media. It tells you that something's wrong with this picture. Yeah. What a joke. Now what we have to talk about is the woman, the writer, reporter, whose husband, because it's a very vague story, and Zanny Jardin's friend, which always makes me, my ears perk up.

2:26:04 who was googling pressure cookers and the cops visited and it was the joint terrorism task force and the FBI said, oh it wasn't us and the cops said, well it wasn't us and when it turns out you know and everyone's like oh this proof you're googling X key score, oh the NSA now it was her she did it you know what happened did you know what where's that voice again yeah do you know what wound up with the at what actually happened No, I always thought the story was semi bullcrap. Well, I thought it was total bullcrap Michelle Catalano was her name and she's very defensive about all this. You know, it was true It really happened. It didn't happen to her by the way, her husband was so she's getting it all secondhand anyway So not even a first-hand account, but regardless Finally the Suffolk County Police Department admitted that here's what happened. So Suffolk County It's like is that like Long Island or something? Whatever

2:27:02 They received a phone call from some IT guy inside her company where she was working who was probably using Spectre 360 and he saw that she was googling pressure cookers and he called them and then they decided to go and ask some questions. So this tells us two things. One, this whole X-key score thing and the bull crap. Don't get hoodwinked into all this stuff. The whole idea is for you to become enslaved by thinking you can't do anything. And two, this is what really is going on in our fascist state, where the commercial companies and the government work together to rat you out.

2:27:47 Yeah, and you know and and all kinds of things could have gone wrong with this Because she was googling pressure cooker bombs and backpacks, and they had a dog as the cops could have shot which they normally do yeah That's it's kind of they should have just shot it anyway just for good measure But I don't know why they didn't do that didn't follow that script So this whole thing was just bogative from start to finish, but it's actually it's much worse than the NSA This is the point. I'm trying to make Yeah, no, I agree with you 100% on this. It's very fat. You have this creep at the company who should be fired by the way. Rats this woman out on some screwball suspicion like what? She's working at this company and she's gonna be making pressure cooker bombs? Are you kidding me? So anyway, well I'm glad you did that. I was actually just dropped the story personally.

2:28:42 But yeah, good. That's what we do on this show. We actually get to the bottom of these stories. That is not reported anywhere. No. We also... We're always irked by these. Yeah, well we have to do this kind of stuff because our people are all over this, announcing, like, oh... It's just this there's truth and there's there's lies about this what is going on and and I just don't see the right conversation sparking up or taking place. No, it's because nobody wants to do any work. They just want a bitch. So I'm listening to C-SPAN and I just wanted to play this because this is the climate... play the climate change thing. We're gonna do a climate gate thing here. Do you want the climate gate first or you just want... The theme, yeah, the theme. Okay, let me do that first. Where are we? To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.

2:29:36 need to set up a week or straight and i just love that bird now we're going to do a i have to set it up so i'm watching this is a good hearing on call nurses california california democrat character and and i'm doing is i want to play this clip is because i have I know people who are in the business of climatology and the rest and you ask them about climate change and they say well it might be coming but they're all doubtful that it's human induced and all the rest of it because there's just a number. They always show this carbon spike but that's at the top of a bigger number.

2:30:14 and they say, well you know, why don't you say something? You can't say anything because you essentially get shouted down if you say anything that's against the litany. And so here we are... No, go ahead, I'm sorry. Here we are with a douchebag who's got four people brought in front of Congress and instead of asking him questions about the future of coal and all the rest, he literally makes them say whether they're for or against climate change. I've never seen questioning like this. This is almost like an interrogation. And then the irony is all these experts say, nah, I'm not... They either lie or they say... They're forced to say yes, but there's one guy, the first guy is black and he says, well, we're looking into it. Well, don't you believe it?

2:31:01 And he said, well, and he jumps around by answering funny. The second guy does the same thing. He says no. And then he says, what do you mean? And they said, oh, well, we kind of I know the evidence is there. You have to listen to this and you'll see what I'm talking about. Now I yield to four minutes to the ranking member, Mr. Swalwell. Thank you, Madam Chair. For our witnesses, it is pretty evident now after a number of scientific studies that 97% of scientists agree that human activities are causing climate change. And so I want to ask just each one of you whether you agree or disagree with the 97% of scientists who believe in that. Mr. Smith, do you agree or disagree? We agree that most of our programs are focused very strictly on reducing CO2 emissions and greenhouse gas emissions. But do you agree that climate change is caused by

2:31:53 human activities. We do agree that this is something we need to address so we agree. Mr. Yamagata, agree or disagree? You're not going to like this answer. Is it agree or disagree? We don't take a position on that issue. It's not something that we want to deal with. What we want to deal with is if public policy determines that this is an issue, we've got to have the technologies available to address it. How about you personally, Mr. Yamagata? Do you agree or disagree? I think there's a lot of information out there that suggests so. Mr. Collins, do you agree or disagree? Congressman Swalwell, I would say, you probably won't like my answer either. There are multiple contributions to what people consider climate change and it is not all just man, anthropogenic sources. So that statement in my mind is incomplete. So that's why I cannot agree to the question that's stated. Do you agree that human activity has played a role, a substantial role in climate change?

2:32:55 The human activity releases a lot of energy into the environment that contributes to the warming. But I also view that CO2 is an untapped resource, and we need to start thinking about how we utilize that. We live in a carbon-rich world. You and I are carbon-based life forms. To consider living in a carbon-free world, to me, sounds like suicide. All right. And Ms. Greenwald, do you agree or disagree with the 97 percent? We agree. I focus on the technology solution side of our organization, but we do have a staff that focuses on science and we do work in that area. Wait a minute. When was this on C-SPAN? About a week ago. All right. Bend over. Wow. Were you just saving that for the end just to like, to get me there?

2:33:50 No, I was just it was a one of these little things. I thought was a nice aside. That was fantastic. That was fan. There was a total up already Science science Shut up slave moment, but they are Give me the guy was it like a like a prick but even more important these people no one would cop to it like well, you know, you're not gonna like my answer but Wow That's fantastic. I thought I was taken aback when I saw that. Wow. Alright, I think we're done. I am extremely fatigued from being over here, being on the road. We're going to be back at home base at the Travis Heights hideout on Thursday. We'll be leaving, I think, I'm not going to tell you when we're going to leave because I don't want anyone to get any ideas.

2:34:48 What ideas are they gonna get? You know what I mean, you know, like ideas. I'm flying man, I don't want to get no ideas. You should probably change your flight plans at the last minute like I do. Yeah, except you usually change them by not going anywhere. I'm changing my flight plan to not leaving at all. Are you doing Twit today? Yes, I am as a matter of fact. Oh really? Okay, a prediction? Yeah. Okay. You are going to be asked or the topic will come out about the bogative googling of backpacks and pressure cookers. Oh, maybe. Yeah. No, I'm pretty sure it is. And you know what you can do. I got the ammo. Thanks to you. You spend actually two minutes and you got the whole story. Whereas the media spends hours and they don't get anything except the sensational part of it.

2:35:42 and that which is still the secondhand information and so I can throw that out there and then see what happens and what I have to do it would and did I hear that you're on with Miss Mollywood I don't know is she on I don't know I saw that in the chat room no and she's probably gonna she'll probably bring it up be be nice to her now I'm always nice to Mollywood and give her a kiss So she's gonna be on, I guarantee she's gonna be on one of the monitors. She won't be there. Oh yeah, no she's not gonna be there. Give her a kiss from Mickey. That'll really irk Leo if you do that. With or without the tongue? Oh with tongue, absolutely. Oh okay. You kidding me? Mickey's like, ehhh. Hey he asked, he just asked him, don't blame me. Well don't shoot the messenger.

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