Episode 407 · Thursday, 10 May 2012

Exploding Dog

A coordinated media blackout on a foiled terror plot emerges alongside new TSA body-scan mandates and a shifting political landscape for marriage and marijuana laws.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 407

About this episode

The Associated Press admitted to withholding details of a foiled underwear bomb plot involving a Saudi intelligence double agent for a full week at the request of government officials. This coordinated media delay coincides with the rollout of new airport security technology and reports of non-metallic explosives designed by Ibrahim al-Asiri. FBI Director Robert Mueller testified before the Senate regarding these threats while appearing unfamiliar with NDAA Section 1021 language concerning the indefinite detention of American citizens.

ABC News reports that $184 million in security equipment remains idle in a Dallas TSA warehouse despite claims of emerging 'body bomb' threats. In Congress, Representatives Dana Rohrabacher and Sam Farr introduced an amendment to protect state medical marijuana laws, prompting a heated 'Reefer Madness' style rebuttal from Congressman Frank Wolf. Meanwhile, President Obama affirmed his support for same-sex marriage in an ABC News interview, a move analyzed as a strategic play for campaign funding from specific donor blocks ahead of the North Carolina primary.

International tensions rise as a Sukhoi Superjet 100 crashes during an Indonesian demonstration flight and UN monitors struggle to oversee a failing ceasefire in Syria. Nigel Farage delivered a scathing speech to the European Parliament, comparing the current Eurozone economic crisis to the political instability of 1932. The episode also features the official knighting of producers Sir Howard and Sir Gregory, alongside a heated listener vote on the future of the show's signature slide whistle.


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CHAPTER 01 / 49 Discussion

Obama Campaign Rhetoric, Media Messaging Failures

The Obama administration is criticized for losing control of media messaging and appearing to be run by former Hillary Clinton campaign staff. A speech delivered by Barack Obama in Virginia is highlighted for containing repetitive rhetoric about hope and change without substantive policy updates.

barack obama· virginia· media messaging· military-industrial complex· hillary clinton

00:00 What is wrong with the BBC that they can't vet some guy like this? Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's Thursday, May 10th, 2012, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 407 This is no agenda Nurturing my pyroresis here at Camp Mofo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody, I am Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm filling in for Joe Biden. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. That would be Crack Skull and Buzzkill if you were really filling in for him.

00:41 Yeah, I guess. Yeah, yeah. So, um... Hey man, let me tell you something. So what's new? Nah, there's nothing new. Nothing going on. I have to tell you, this White House administration is not in control of the media messaging. This was a great week for media assassins. We had a number of initiatives taking place and what I recognize right off the bat, my friend, is that The military-industrial complex screwed up the entire Obama plan, and I'll tell you why. Okay, I'm listening to that. I mean, all I know, I'm noticing more and more is it looks as if this Obama administration was taken over by the old Hillary Clinton campaign people.

01:29 I mean, it's just one botch after another. The whole of everything is just going every which way. It's weird. In fact, if you want to, if you want to take a quick, just a little intro into what you might be going into. I have a clip from an Obama speech that's about a minute or so where he says absolutely nothing. Or you tell me if he says anything. Virginia, that's the spirit we need again. If people ask you, What's this campaign about? You tell them it's still about hope. Oh no. You tell them it's still about change. Really? You tell them it's still about ordinary people who believe in the face of great odds that we can make a difference in the life of this country. You tell them

CHAPTER 02 / 49 Discussion

Associated Press, Underwear Bomb Plot Timeline

The Associated Press admitted to knowing about a foiled underwear bomb plot involving a double agent a week before reporting it, allegedly at the request of government officials. This delay is framed as a coordinated effort to manage the rollout of new airport security technology and distract from TSA inefficiencies.

associated press· underwear bomb· cia· saudi intelligence· yemen

02:25 I don't have to listen to the rest you're right does he have any running on you he's running wait a minute he's running on empty so running on empty here's the plan here was the plan the military-industrial complex had it all queued up and we'll get into this in depth because the Associated Press has now admitted that they knew about the foiled underwear expanded enhanced upgrade booby bomb double agent plot a week ago. They've admitted they knew about it a week ago and they were told to shut up about it until of course there was time for them to talk. And we had Mueller with a scheduled Senate hearing

03:12 And of course the whole plan was to bring in, to do two things really. One to bring in the new upgraded x-ray body scanners, the secret new things we haven't heard about that are so awesome. And the other one was to obfuscate the fact that the TSA is just a big wasteful bunch of boneheads. So that was all scheduled. But they didn't communicate with the administration because this whole gay thing? Did you know that Joe Biden, who started it all off, And he started this off on Meet the Press on Sunday. It was a pre-taped interview taped on Friday. So this was all planned, except the two crossed each other and at the same time it covered up a whole bunch of don't look over here things which I've been taking a look at of course. So people, heads will have to roll on this because they just botched everything.

04:09 Well, heads won't roll, of course. No, well, duh. In the morning to you, Johnny boy. In the morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning, all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water and feet in the air. That's right. And all of our producers who are human resources, actually, I should say, who are all lined up in the chat room, no agenda stream dot com, no agenda chat dot net, keeping them honest during the show and a big shout out and a lot of karma to all of our female listeners and producers who are suffering from super moon syndrome. I know you're out there. I feel for you. So, uh, wow, this was so great. This was so... I mean, I just had so much fun with everything that was going on. What do you want to start with first? Gaygate or, uh, or Boob Bombergate? Which one? Because I got it all. Well, I got a couple... I got clips for both. Yeah. I do have a... just a summary clip. I do have the... which brings up questions. The reason I, uh...

CHAPTER 03 / 49 Discussion

Double Agent Definition, Saudi Intelligence Operation

A BBC report describes a Saudi intelligence recruit who infiltrated Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) to intercept an explosive device. The technical definition of a "double agent" is debated, suggesting the media is misusing the term to describe what was actually a single agent working for the Saudis and the CIA.

double agent· saudi intelligence agency· yemen· al-qaeda· cia

05:06 even wanted to talk about the tit thing or the crotch thing is well here read the played BBC report on double agent all right double agent The would-be bomber in this case, according to reports in US media citing American officials, the would-be bomber was a double agent. And the way this is described is that the Saudi intelligence agency recruited this man, sent him to Yemen with the task of convincing al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula that he was prepared to blow up himself and a US-bound aircraft. This he apparently did.

05:48 to the extent where he won the Terror Cells Trust and they gave him this device to take with him to blow up a plane but instead he took the underwear bomb which is what the officials here say that it was to a third country where he passed it immediately into the hands of the CIA. Now, the question that immediately comes to mind is there's a couple things going on here and I believe the meme double agent. Yeah, it's incorrect. It's totally incorrect, but it's being played so much. I mean, the only possibility of him being a double agent is that he works for both the Saudis and the CIA. Right. But that's not what a double agent technically is.

06:30 A double agent is a guy who works for both sides of a dispute. He works for like the Russians and the Americans and he claims to be a spy for the Russians to the Russians and he claims to be a spy for the Americans to the Americans and he's playing both sides of the fence. That's a double agent. He's a single agent. I think they're trying to redefine double agent in the minds of the public. I'm not quite sure who started, I'm sure it all came from Associated Press. As I said, they knew about this for a week. That's a fine news organization. who doesn't report on it. It's interesting you have a BBC clip, because I have a BBC clip, short one from BBC World. They're speaking with a consultant of course, a Homeland Security consultant who sells stuff and he lays it right out. One of the things that stood out for me from what the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI was saying is that it seems to have no metal in it and that means I guess it can get through normal security. Right, and that's obviously one of the big

07:25 hurdles with airport security is just being able to pass through the screening device and taking metal out of the equation then you are going to rely on a screening device that is a bit more sophisticated like an x-ray type of a thing a full body scan that could really penetrate the normal places that somebody might try to secrete one of these bombs. We're gonna penetrate you with x-rays bitches that's what's coming down Hey, bring back the puffer. Yeah, that was such a success. So of course... the best news and all of this the gaygate, the boob bomber, it all comes from ABC News. We know that they're fully compromised. I can't say it enough that the president of ABC News, his sister is special advisor to President Obama. That's why they've got the inside track. So of course, Diane Sawyer, such a lovely lush that she is and she's actually stumbling over her words now in the broadcast. It's like, that's new.

CHAPTER 04 / 49 Discussion

ABC News, Ibrahim al-Asiri Bomb Designs

ABC News reports on Ibrahim al-Asiri, described as a master bomb maker for AQAP, who is allegedly developing non-metallic explosives. The coverage includes claims of bombs hidden in picture frames, radios, and even surgically implanted in terrorists or pets, which is viewed as a fear-based narrative to justify increased security.

abc news· diane sawyer· ibrahim al-asiri· brian ross· fbi

06:30 A double agent is a guy who works for both sides of a dispute. He works for like the Russians and the Americans and he claims to be a spy for the Russians to the Russians and he claims to be a spy for the Americans to the Americans and he's playing both sides of the fence. That's a double agent. He's a single agent. I think they're trying to redefine double agent in the minds of the public. I'm not quite sure who started, I'm sure it all came from Associated Press. As I said, they knew about this for a week. That's a fine news organization. who doesn't report on it. It's interesting you have a BBC clip, because I have a BBC clip, short one from BBC World. They're speaking with a consultant of course, a Homeland Security consultant who sells stuff and he lays it right out. One of the things that stood out for me from what the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI was saying is that it seems to have no metal in it and that means I guess it can get through normal security. Right, and that's obviously one of the big

07:25 hurdles with airport security is just being able to pass through the screening device and taking metal out of the equation then you are going to rely on a screening device that is a bit more sophisticated like an x-ray type of a thing a full body scan that could really penetrate the normal places that somebody might try to secrete one of these bombs. We're gonna penetrate you with x-rays bitches that's what's coming down Hey, bring back the puffer. Yeah, that was such a success. So of course... the best news and all of this the gaygate, the boob bomber, it all comes from ABC News. We know that they're fully compromised. I can't say it enough that the president of ABC News, his sister is special advisor to President Obama. That's why they've got the inside track. So of course, Diane Sawyer, such a lovely lush that she is and she's actually stumbling over her words now in the broadcast. It's like, that's new.

08:28 It's becoming obvious. So she I mean, I just have to play the report. We'll stop at a couple times because it's just and I even cut out three minutes of this and it's still two and a half. It's just beautiful the way they lay it all on the line because this is all about they're going to connect the two. This double agent bomber and new scanners. Bomb is being described today by US officials as an upgrade to the underwear bomb. It's an upgrade. Used three years ago in a failed attempt. It's now a quad core. Bring down a Detroit bound jetliner. Now being studied by the FBI, this new design is described as being made with a different chemical formula with dual detonation system. Oh, dual detonation system! It's alliteration right there, everybody. Good morning to you. To make it easier to set off. By having the bomb in its original state before it goes off,

09:20 This, of course, is Richard Clark, the guy who's selling the, you know, selling stuff. U.S. experts now are able to figure out how the bomb works, how it might be detected. That's a heck of a lot easier when the bomb is still intact. Still, there is great concern that the bomb maker, 30-year-old Ibrahim al-Assiri, is working on other bomb designs, including bombs surgically implanted in terrorists, even in picture frames and radios, as shown in this al-Qaeda video. Picture frames and radios. Hey, hey, when was the last time you took a transistor radio on the plane with you? Sure, radios. They keep trying to devise more and more perverse and terrible ways to kill innocent people.

10:05 That's beautiful how they put that Hillary quote in there. I mean the whole thing is so stunning. Beautiful package. Oh, the package is awesome. In this case the bomber was actually the source working for the US and others. And others! There was no real threat. But American authorities... Did he just say there was no real threat? for days like, oh it was intended for a plane to crash, the bomb, the anniversary of Bin Laden's death, no real threat. Today as long as Al-Asiri is alive making other bombs for real terrorists there remains a grave threat to the US, Diane. And as you reported, Brian, thank you. Thank you, as you reported. So before we get to the second part of the ABC report, let's listen to FBI Director Mueller

CHAPTER 05 / 49 Discussion

Robert Mueller, Counter-Terrorism Threat Testimony

FBI Director Robert Mueller testifies before the Senate, referring to Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula as a "top counter-terrorism threat." His specific use of the word "exploiting" in reference to captured IEDs is scrutinized as a potential admission of using threats for political or security leverage.

robert mueller· fbi· aqap· ied· senate hearing

10:51 who says something very interesting in his testimony about this pair of underwear with dual detonation that they have captured. And I was just amazed by the word, this is a written statement, he's reading from paper, so no mistake in the word, this is written down. Meanwhile, Al Qaeda affiliates, especially Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, represent the top counter-terrorism threat to the nation. AQAP has attempted several attacks on the United States including... Hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He said it's a top threat. No, he says it's a top counter-terrorism threat. What the hell is that supposed to mean? I didn't even catch that one. Let's listen to that again. Huh. Meanwhile, Al-Qaeda affiliates, especially Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, represent the top counter-terrorism threat to the nation. Good catch!

11:47 Catch of the day! If he's reading it, what does he mean? It gets better! Did you catch it? We're exporting. No, he said exploiting. Oh, I thought he said exporting. Exploiting. Well, no kidding you're exploiting. You're exploiting it to scare everybody. He says exploiting. And IED. Sorry, I roll back a little bit further. Here we go. U.S. bound cargo planes in 2010. And of course, we are currently, we in the Bureau are currently exploiting

12:44 And IED, improvised explosive device. Now what is that? The definition of exploiting... Yeah, it means using. Yeah, using it to scare people. So he's got like the counter-terrorism thing going on. This guy's a threat because he's not part of the... He's not part of the program. And now we're exploiting IEDs? What is he saying? He's telling the truth! Yeah, apparently he doesn't like to lie. Let's go back to Diane Sawyer. But nobody pays any attention to any of it, right? No, of course not. Now I heard that and I'm like, what did he just say? He said we're exploiting it? Yeah, no kidding you're exploiting it. So let's go back to Diane Sawyer who takes us from the surgically implanted bombs from Master Bomb Maker, whatever his name is. El-Siri. El-Siri.

CHAPTER 06 / 49 Discussion

TSA Warehouse, Idle Security Equipment in Dallas

An ABC News investigation reveals that $184 million worth of high-tech security equipment is sitting unused in a TSA warehouse in Dallas, Texas. While Secretary Janet Napolitano claims the technology is effective, the delay in deployment is questioned alongside the sudden news of new "body bomb" threats.

tsa· dallas· jim avila· janet napolitano· x-ray scanners

13:30 to the new scanners. And as you reported, Brian, thank you, even though this part was foiled, airport security is still on alert. And yet, ABC News has learned that millions of dollars of high-tech security equipment is gathering dust at a government warehouse. Equipment airports say they need. ABC senior national correspondent Jim Mavala has the exclusive details on that. Exclusive. A nondescript TSA warehouse in Dallas. Inside, ABC News has learned, America's best weapons against Al-Qaeda's bomb of choice. Hundreds of baggage scanners, explosive detection systems, and in this wooden crate, the latest bomb detecting scanners. Sitting idle, never used, all in storage for more than nine months. So that to me says right there that they've got the latest technology ready to roll out and we needed to expand

14:21 the underwear bomber to roll out the new technology or am I hearing this incorrectly? Yeah, no, you're hearing it, that's what they said. All you're hearing is what they said. So, look, a couple more seconds of this particular report. Some more than a year nearly 300 airports across the country go unprotected by the newest and best bomb scanning technology. Newest and best. There are airports around America that really don't realize that in Dallas, Texas, there are huge amounts of this equipment sitting in excess. A congressional investigation to be released tomorrow, but obtained exclusively by ABC News tonight, concludes that the TSA is not only wasting $184 million by not deploying security equipment, it is warehousing the one device that can actually detect a non-metallic plastic explosive. It's the one, John! I can't believe it!

15:12 believe it this is an outrage the terror threat rope this is an outrage device the one device that can save us from the horrible exploding underwear is in a warehouse bring it out sir x-ray radiation when Congress asked why the report says the TSA told them they ordered extras to get a discount plan to the floor obviously the point of having Advanced screening technology is to get it out to the field. It's not that's that a hole. What's his name cured off? It's not a museum relic Old lady that was a congresswoman he looks like an old lady well He sounds like one he must have had a vasectomy plan to deploy obviously the point of having

15:58 advanced screening technology to get it out to the field. It's not a museum relic. Yeah, it is dude, because it doesn't work. ABC News has learned FBI agents plan to make a replica of the newly recovered underwater drone and send it through airport security. Testing Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's statement today. all things considered yes in a high likelihood it would have been detected wait a minute do we need the new scanners or not all things considered come on Lucy there somebody lost the message yeah the package fell apart there no so anyways I was ready to close it out and then last night we get

16:37 get yet another news break, another flash from Diane Sawyer. She's just slammed back another Johnny Walker and here it comes. You will not believe your ears. And now the terror threat revealed this week. Tonight, the FBI studying that new kind of bomb from Al Qaeda. The plot foiled by the double agent. But the man behind it, the master bomb maker is still in hiding, still at work, reportedly hoping to surgically implant explosives in people and even pets. In pets! Come here Fido. How many Arabs do we see on these planes carrying dogs and cats? No, you gotta listen to this, this is a short report. ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross has the latest. Hey Brian Ross, she should be shot. Stop with it. And by the way, it's all

CHAPTER 07 / 49 Discussion

Drone Strikes, Ibrahim al-Asiri Targeted in Yemen

U.S. authorities have expanded drone operations in Yemen specifically targeting Ibrahim al-Asiri. Analysts from the Rand Corporation suggest that killing the bomb maker is a priority to prevent the transfer of his "operational savvy" and technical knowledge to other militants.

yemen· drones· ibrahim al-asiri· rand corporation· brian ross

15:58 advanced screening technology to get it out to the field. It's not a museum relic. Yeah, it is dude, because it doesn't work. ABC News has learned FBI agents plan to make a replica of the newly recovered underwater drone and send it through airport security. Testing Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's statement today. all things considered yes in a high likelihood it would have been detected wait a minute do we need the new scanners or not all things considered come on Lucy there somebody lost the message yeah the package fell apart there no so anyways I was ready to close it out and then last night we get

16:37 get yet another news break, another flash from Diane Sawyer. She's just slammed back another Johnny Walker and here it comes. You will not believe your ears. And now the terror threat revealed this week. Tonight, the FBI studying that new kind of bomb from Al Qaeda. The plot foiled by the double agent. But the man behind it, the master bomb maker is still in hiding, still at work, reportedly hoping to surgically implant explosives in people and even pets. In pets! Come here Fido. How many Arabs do we see on these planes carrying dogs and cats? No, you gotta listen to this, this is a short report. ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross has the latest. Hey Brian Ross, she should be shot. Stop with it. And by the way, it's all

17:28 You know, they still have the stupid Al Qaeda training videos where you see like dudes with with... I'm surprised they still don't have that old shot with bin Laden shooting the AK-47 and getting knocked on his ass. It's from the same reel. And then Brian is doing his report from the airport. So you just say you feel extra scared. Yeah, he's extra scared. At the age of only 30, Ibrahim Al-Asiri has now emerged as the most feared face of terror for American authorities. The most feared face of terror. Feared face of terror. Double detonations. The master bomb maker. Master bomb maker.

18:04 I'm a master baiter, he's a master bomb maker. Behind the efforts of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula to blow up a US passenger jet. We gotta drone this guy. I think more drones in Yemen. Oh, no, this is a set up for killing the guy. Of course, of course. I'm not sure if he's like a... We need a new Bin Laden. I think he's an operative and he has to be pulled. Yeah. Al-Qaeda affiliates in the Arabian Peninsula. represent the top counter-terrorism threat to the nation. U.S. authorities tell ABC News that Alice series latest designs involve bombs surgically implanted in terrorists as well as bombs hidden in pets to be carried on aircraft in cameras and in external hard drives that would explode when plugged into a laptop computer. Forget traveling it is over

18:50 No external hard drives, no picture frames, Fido, you know, they're gonna stick their finger in Fido's butt. Let me see if it's concealing an explosive weapon. You gotta put your dog through the body scanner, man. This is great. He's got an operational savvy to him. This by the way, this by the way, is this guy? No, he has operational. I'm telling you, this is a setup for an exchange. Now this is going to be drawn within the next 60 days. This is the put it in the Red Book. This is the guy from the Rand Corporation and he's the spokeshole for Rand Corporation, Rand Corporation. I mean, these are this is the biggest black box.

19:29 It's a non-profit actually the Rand Corporation, but it's the biggest black box when it comes to the military industrial complex And this guy is just just reading the script, but doing it so interestingly operational savvy to him operational savvy that is is Useful that's a meme operational savvy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's useful listen useful for an al-qaeda operative He has the operational savvy that is useful for an Al-Qaeda operative. You just said nothing. A Saudi citizen who studied chemistry in college. Oh, chemistry! His parents say he became radicalized after the death of a brother. He hates American ideology. He hates Western values. Because of the threat of al-Asiri and his al-Qaeda group, the U.S. has vastly expanded its drone operations inside Yemen.

20:19 Al Asiri has survived at least one US drone strike in the last year. Aha! There you go, there's the setup. He survived one. We're 0 for 1. We don't miss twice. 0 for 1. We want to make sure that he doesn't have the opportunity to continue to build any device whatsoever or impart his knowledge to anyone else. Oh, we got to kill him quick. impart his knowledge because it's so complicated to build a bomb. Well, here's my scenario. We don't kill him quick. We give it about 60 days because we want to get it closer to the election. Yeah. Because this is just another feather in Obama's cap that he can use when he gives his speech. And we grow up and we grow up. I got Osama bin Laden. But what did you do for us lately? I got the master bomb maker. Oh, I got al-Siri. Yeah, I got the master bomb maker. And so this whole thing is an outrageous scam. Well, al-Siri and al-Qaeda's latest plot was foiled.

CHAPTER 08 / 49 Discussion

Daryl Issa, TSA Security Confidence

Congressman Daryl Issa discusses the role of the CIA in foiling terror plots before they reach airports. He emphasizes the need for the TSA to have better tools and training to ensure flyer safety while also attempting to speed up security lines.

daryl issa· tsa· cia· anderson cooper· airport security

21:10 Authorities tell ABC News there are several other plots aimed at US airlines that are at the very least in the planning stages, if not further along. Be very afraid! The planning stages. What are these people making this up as they go along? They know nothing of any of this. Daryl Issa is on board with the program by the way. This obviously comes right on the heels of the discovery of a terrorist plot to blow up an airplane. Should Americans have faith that the TSA is capable of doing what's necessary to keep them safe? Well Anderson, I think in the case of that failed bombing attempt we should be proud that the... It wasn't a bombing attempt. ...restructured CIA that has been rebuilt in the last decade. In fact, proactively had agent involved found this and uncovered it before we ever had to ask the question of would TSA have found it with their equipment that you may or may not have gone through. So I'm happy to say CIA did their job. My job is to make sure that the men and women of TSA have the tools

22:10 and the training they need so that we can be more confident that our flyers are safe. And by the way, we'd like to get them through the lines a lot faster too. With the new upgraded equipment which will be rolling out no doubt. Total. Set up for and this is exactly I mean another big expense and it's a rerun of the first script for the body scanner It's time. You know this time for another sale. It's been there. What is it three years? That's the sales cycle churred off is like hey, man. Yeah, we got to sell the new machine starving to death Yeah, really look at my face. I like I got nothing going on I'm not eating there was one. I don't if you saw the Robert Mueller hearing there was one nice little

CHAPTER 09 / 49 Discussion

NDAA Section 1021, Robert Mueller Testimony

Representative Bob Goodlatte questions FBI Director Robert Mueller regarding Section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). Mueller appears unfamiliar with the specific language concerning the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens, leading to criticism of his preparedness on constitutional rights.

ndaa· robert mueller· due process· section 1021· bob goodlatte

22:52 Thank goodness. Good lot, which you spell good latte, which is kind of funny. I don't know where he's from. He's a senator. He asked a question about the NDA and about one section in particular. And they're talking about the National Defense Authorization Act, which, of course, this guy needs to know inside and out from Virginia. Okay, he's a house rep. So it's so would you say that the director of the FBI should know all about the National Defense Authorization Act? I mean, it's in his backyard, right? I would hope Thank You. Mr. Chairman director Muller welcome director. Do you agree that no United States citizen? arrested in the United States should be indefinitely detained without all the rights of due process

23:43 What's your interpretation of section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act? Can you repeat the question again? Sure. What is this, a spelling bee? Can you use it in a sentence? He's like, whoa, what is the guy asking me? This is a trick question, which it is. Of course. It's a trick question. But he actually helped him by giving him the clue as to what this was going to be about. And Mueller doesn't even know yet. The question is whether or not you agree that no United States citizen apprehended, seized, captured, arrested in the United States should be indefinitely detained without all the rights of due process provided by our Constitution. I believe that should be the case. Oh! Ooh! Ooh! We're so sorry. That is not a correct answer. So, uh, do you have concern over the language that is in the National Defense Authorization Act called Section 1021 which does not clarify the status of U.S. citizens in that regard?

24:47 I haven't focused on that aspect of the act as much as I focused on the other aspects of the act. But I do believe it gives, affirms the president's authority to make what decisions the president believes are... necessary in a terrorist attack. But that might include seizing a US citizen in their home in Chicago, Illinois and then detaining them indefinitely without charges. I'm not certain that's the case but I have not read the OLC opinions and I have not followed the debate on it. Well we would look forward to the opportunity to work with you to make sure it's clear that US citizens have that. Now that's where you blew it. That's where you're supposed to say

25:31 Are you out of your mind? Are you high, Muller? Are you high? You just answered the question, but you don't know that this isn't a legislation. It was top of the news. You know nothing? We look forward to the opportunity to work with you on that. Idiot. So, uh, there you go, ladies and gentlemen. That is to be very afraid. Don't travel with pets because you get your... How do you get the pet to stand still in the body scanner? And does he have to stand on his hind legs? You have to hold him. And spread his paws? And if they say we've got something here, then you pull the plug on the... he's got a little string hanging out of his butt. You pull it. And you blow up yourself and the body scanner and the dog. I just want to remind you that this is... the plan all along has been to bring in new machines or... As to this current threat, US authorities say they have made adjustments in security screening to make it easier to spot.

CHAPTER 10 / 49 Discussion

Airport Security, Radiation and Walking Funny

New security measures are reportedly being implemented to detect non-metallic body bombs, including increased radiation levels in scanners. Officials are also allegedly training staff to look for passengers "walking funny" as a sign of surgically implanted explosives.

airport security· radiation· body bombs· tsa· screening

26:24 the body bombs. How can they do it? You said there's no metal involved. No metal but they have turned up some of the radiation that goes into the body as well as looking for people who might have had recent operations, might be walking funny. Kills me every time. Walking funny. It kills me every time. He might be walking funny. Idiots. Hey people, there's nothing... That's a clip, that clip you have to be really afraid of. No, no, I got it, I got it, I got it. It's a great clip. So, there's nothing to be afraid of. However, unfortunately, you do need to be afraid when you travel. I got some travel coming up in the next couple months and I'm not looking forward to it. I had a nightmare last night. I seriously had a nightmare that I had an anal probe because they didn't believe me. And I was like, look man, I'll skip the anal probe. Can I just go home? But they wouldn't let me.

CHAPTER 11 / 49 Discussion

No Agenda Producers, Donation Segment and Knighting

The executive and associate executive producers for Episode 407 are thanked, including Howard Gutknecht, Mark Dytham, and Adam Colby. A special "double your donation" offer from Hyperware Technologies is highlighted, and several producers are knighted for their contributions to the show.

knighthood· value for value· hyperware· seattle· tokyo

27:22 Yeah, this is very revealing. Well, that's our next topic. But first, let's thank our producers for today's program. Okay, we have a few of them here. Let me quickly get now we need to discuss the mailing and we have an issue. We might as well discuss it now. Briefly about the slide whistle briefly, briefly, we'll get to the results later. It's called the tease. And We have some problems. For example, we have one, two, three executive producers and one, two, three, four associates today. And the first, and let me just thank a few of these people off the top, and then I'll get into the discussion. If anyone got their mail, they should have. We were gonna take a vote on the slide whistle, whether I should be playing it more or less, or Adam should be playing it at all. Well, that wasn't really the question. And we're gonna use numbers, codes, like seven, for example,

28:18 We have three... Don't give away the total. One of them has got a 509, you think maybe he's voted. Nine means no and seven means yes. Anyway, let's thank these guys first and then we'll go on to this discussion. Howard Gutknecht. I would say, I would say, Gutknecht. Could be Gutknecht. Gutknecht. Well, he's in Seattle. I don't think he'd pronounce it that way. Maybe he just says Gutknecht. Hey, Gutknecht. Hey, Gutknecht. For 509, John Adams just had a very good month, decided to ask for some special karma for a client, LeonardMoen.com, L-E-O-N-A-R-D-M-O-E-N. A personal injury law firm in Seattle for their website migration. I'm going to donate the date in hopes of inspiring some other folks who have been dawdling toward their knighthood. $509 as a matter of fact.

29:06 Maybe we can get a donate the date thing going. Oh, that's not a bad idea actually. First let me get some karma for Leonard Moan. You've got karma. And Howard will become a knight today. Yes. He shall be knighted. And then Mark, Sir Mark Dytham, our friend in Tokyo, the great architect, He gave us $400 and he had, he went back and forth with some notes but he finally came up with a PayPal donation is to no agenda for every kind of people. Yeah, that's the song that I played on, he had a beautiful email about how he was listening to the Daily Source Code, doing his morning jog in Tokyo, he even sent a picture.

29:48 beautiful picture. I didn't get a picture. Oh no, the picture, oh no, you, I responded to the thread and then you know you drop he's like screw that Dvorak he's not talking. He, they cut me out. Yeah, yeah anyway so because you and your buddies you know. Because I played Robert Palmer every kind of people. Oh Robert Palmer. And he loved it so much. All I remember is the girls with the red lips. Adam Colby, Sir Adam Colby in Menasha, Wisconsin $300 and seven cents and the seven cents means he is voting yes on the Slide whistle. On more slide whistle. For the slide whistle. Thank you for putting on the show. I want the producer credit to go to my wife, Marion. You have to make a note there. Since it's her birthday on Saturday, if you can do a happy birthday with a combined slide whistle, it would be fantastic. Keep up the good work. Okay. Uh, Sander Hulks. Happy birthday combined slide whistle? I don't understand.

30:39 Well, he apparently wants... In the birthday shout out? I guess. Okay. Well, you can just do it while you're playing it. Everybody will get one then. Sir Sander Hoxbergen. Hoxbergen. Hoxbergen. And... Zandam. Zandam, which is a sand, it is Dutch for sand dam, right? Correct. You are correct. They have a sand, and it's probably used to be a sand dam, right, at that spot, wherever the town is. I think there still is. Hmm. $205 for the best podcast in the universe. Greatly appreciate your work effort. Show 404 rocked. Hmm. Okay.

31:20 Take your word for it. Borislov Marinoff, Sir Marinoff to you and Elise Oviejo, California 20127 and the 7 means that he is voting yes on the slide whistle. Happy birthday to my wife, we got that on our list, we got it on the list, send some karma to her, my twin boys and my future son coming soon in July and finally to me. I don't know whether this is allowed but if there's any karma left send it to the great team of the No Agenda Show, the best podcast In the universe. For your information, the first four digits of my donation amount represent this year to 07 as a voting guest for The Whistle. Please attribute this donation toward my kid's knighthood. Oh, we're gonna have little baby knights. Nice. You've got karma. They'll have to share the ring.

32:03 And then Hyperware Technologies, Los Gatos, California, $200.07, which means yes on the slide whistle. I'm offering a special offer to double people's donations to No Agenda. Please look at hyperware.com slash noagenda. That's H-Y-P-E-R-W-A-R-E dot com slash noagenda. If you're okay with this concept, please promote it in the producer credits. If not, then just mention that Adam's Big App Show is available now on the Roku. Is that right? Yes, it is. Yeah, you should have three options. 09 for the slide whistle, 08 for just the right amount of slide whistle, and 09 for more slide whistle. No, no, 09 means, 07 is what he meant on this message. Double your donation value for value. Here's the offer for every donation to my son's fundraiser. I'll make a double donation to the NOA Agenda Show up to the goal of $2,000.

32:54 If you donate a dollar to my son's walkathon, I'll donate two dollars to no agenda. Cool. Nice promise. Yeah, I'll put that in the show notes. That's a good one. Yeah, it is a good one. David Sauter, Lone Tree, Colorado. $200 now up to $500 on his knighthood. Keep up the good work. Now he's working again. He needs some karma. Okay. You've got karma. So those are our executive and associate executive producers for show 407 I want to thank them and everyone else of course who donated to help us out help us continue doing the show go to Dvorak org slash na channel Dvorak comm slash and a no agenda show comm or no agenda nation comm and click on the donate button that we Seriously appreciate it and now we have to discuss. I think the kind of not yet not yet first I have quick PR mention

CHAPTER 12 / 49 Discussion

Dvorak Chili Recipe, Recipes Website Launch

A new "four-bean bogative chili" recipe is released to the mailing list and added to the show's recipe archive. The inclusion of beans is noted as a disqualifier for traditional chili competitions, which typically mandate meat-only entries.

chili recipe· cooking· beans· competition· mailing list

33:43 As a part of the email you sent out your famous for being chili recipe a classic a classic now after each time you do this after you send out the recipe because we want the People who subscribe to the mailing list to get it first Excuse me. Okay. Yeah Get a cough button. You could please you can go to recipes dot na show notes calm and so we have two recipes now recipes Dot na show notes calm and we have your chicken and now your chili recipe there So it's a hand it's handy you're in the kitchen you like what am I gonna make?

34:21 I know what I'm gonna make! And you go to recipes.nashownotes.com Perfect. Okay. And I'm gonna try that this weekend. The chili? Yeah, of course! Are you kidding? I've already done the chicken. It's approved. It's awesome. Well, the chili is actually quite good. Well, it's an award-winning chili, Neh. Yeah, yeah, I know. I've won it a couple times. But it's not real chili. You know, technically, if you go into chili competitions nowadays, they refuse to accept any chilies that have beans. Oh? Because chili is supposed to be just meat. And so it's an it's an unif I mean it won competitions because that rule wasn't in play But now generally speaking. I can't enter in so it's no one would accept it. It's the four beam bogative chili for being Mocked chili mocked chili. I gotta add that to the list there make sure we know that it's bogative

CHAPTER 13 / 49 Discussion

Slide Whistle Vote, Donation Coding Error

A listener poll regarding the use of the slide whistle on the show is underway using specific donation amounts (ending in .07 for yes, .09 for no). A coding conflict involving the "69.69" meme donation is addressed, clarifying that those specific amounts will not count as anti-whistle votes.

slide whistle· 6969· donation· voting· meme numbers

35:11 Alright, so quickly run us through this idea and what it was really about. Alright, so I sent out a mailing and I sent out a mailing saying we can vote for the slide whistle. We got some votes. I mean, I don't want, this is not, this didn't end it. Oh really? Oh. No, this is going to go on for a month. Are you kidding me? No. Alright. Well, get into it, because I got lots of other important stuff to do. So 7 is voting yes on the slide whistle, 9, which means the last digit, like if you donate $50, you make it $50.07, and it becomes yes for the slide whistle, $50.09 is no for the slide whistle. The problem was somebody pointed out, somebody, a half dozen people pointed out that the 69-69 donation now becomes an anti-slide whistle donation. So here's the solution.

35:57 Anybody who donates $69.69 does not get counted one way or the other. Oh, okay. It does not count as a slide, anti-slide whistle vote. Right. Because we want to keep this streak alive. We almost lost it a couple weeks ago and only one person came in and now we, you know, we don't want to blow it completely. But essentially you effed up is what you're saying. Yeah. Okay, just want to make sure we got that. Well, as we thought about it, you know, well, what kind of numbers can I said that I can't use three because there's three three three and can't use one because there's 1111 right I mean goes all these meme numbers. I said what are the two that we haven't used? I think we've used eight lucky number eight So I said ah seven we haven't used seven and then perfect and then if for some stupid reason I thought we hadn't used nine

36:47 And I was wrong, I forgot about 69-69. Alright, so you can, we'll give you the interim tally of the vote in our donation segment later on. Thank you so much to our executive producers, looks like all sirs. All Knights who came in, our associate executive producers working on their way towards knighthood. We highly appreciate that. This is what it's all about, value for value. That's our only model. There's no way we could be talking about the stuff we're talking about if we had commercials or any other type of financing other than directly from you, the listeners, because you are not the product. This is the product. Dvorak.org slash N-A. And of course, you can always go out and do something very important like propagate our formula. Our formula is this.

CHAPTER 14 / 49 Discussion

Federalism, State Rights and Marriage Law

The structure of the U.S. government is explained to international listeners, emphasizing that marriage laws are determined by individual states rather than the federal government. The lack of specific mention of marriage or "separation of church and state" in the Constitution is cited to support the argument for state-level jurisdiction.

constitution· federalism· texas· california· marriage equality

37:30 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Everybody say it now. Shut up, slave. I'd like to, if you don't mind, John, I'd like to speak to our international listeners for a moment here. We have a very large international contingent who produce the program and listen to it around the world. And I think it's important in light of this admission by the president that he thinks

38:07 Same-sex couples should be allowed to get married a little understanding of the United States is an order. Do you agree? I guess go and the reason I say this is because I have a European here miss Mickey and she's obviously very liberal and free thinking and believes that anyone should be able to do whatever they want and I agree with her but when she heard the president like many Europeans, is like, wow, you know, this is really huge, this is really big, and, you know, this is great, and all her Dutch gay friends are all like, oh, this is awesome, this is so fantastic, which of course is exactly what it's intended to do. I would like to, you have to understand one thing. Unlike other countries, the United States is built up of 50 states, and each of these states, and some American people may not even understand this,

39:07 Each of these 50 states has their own government. They've got a Senate, and they've got a Capitol, and they've got a governor, and they do legislation, and they have the right to determine what happens in that state. That's why they determine all kinds of things like taxation. So in California, you pay 10% California tax on your income. In Texas, you pay, let me check again, oh yeah, zero. There are many states that have those differences, differences in a whole bunch of things, and that's up to the state to decide. The federal government really, if you look at the Constitution of the United States of America, is their only real job is to protect that freedom that we have and to protect the freedom of the states and the citizens. And of course, that has been misused in this very young country where, you know, we're not even close to 300 years old.

40:01 And that's why we have all this crazy body scanners. We're going to scan your dog and that costs money. We didn't have taxation on a federal level in the beginning of this country. But the one thing that is not in the Constitution, there's nothing about marriage. There's also nothing about separation of church and state in there. The only thing that's in the Constitution says Congress shall make no law about any religion. So it is not up to the federal government to determine if you can marry a same-sex partner. It is up to the individual states. And I believe we have now six states where this can take place.

40:40 We get labeled as Americans on from other countries as racists, homophobes, you know, nut jobs. I'll give you the last one. But this is basically incorrect. If let's take homophobia. If you were to look at what people actually watch, which is television, there is nothing but gay shows on. There's just tons. I mean I watch smash smash huge gay show in modern in modern family huge gay show We've got we got you know watch any channel. It's all Bravo Network, and and and it's okay time and everyone's cool with it There's no outrage people aren't freaking out because we're very tolerant but

CHAPTER 15 / 49 Discussion

Obama Gay Marriage Affirmation, ABC News Interview

President Obama officially affirmed his support for same-sex marriage in an interview with ABC News, following comments made by Joe Biden on Meet the Press. The timing is analyzed as a political calculation to secure campaign funding from "bundlers" while attempting to minimize fallout in states like North Carolina.

barack obama· joe biden· abc news· gay marriage· north carolina

41:23 The law is up to the individual states. So in America, if you live in Texas and you don't like that your son can't marry his boyfriend, then you should move to New York. And then it's okay. That's how it works. So this is absolutely meaningless to the way that America works. Even worse, only now, this morning, have they broadcast the full interview, ABC News, again, the Compromise Network, Only now have they broadcast the full interview and just to let you know again, this was all set up in advance. On Friday, Joe Biden pre-taped his appearance on Meet the Press. I don't have the Joe Biden quote, but he yeah, he said, I believe in gay marriage. It's all good. So they were set up for it. They knew it was coming and the White House called their buddies over there at ABC. I'll just give you the little quote here. Here's the

42:20 the woman who interviewed him. And George, you know full well what it's like to get a call from the White House. We got a call on Tuesday saying the President wanted to talk. No guidelines, no real indication of what he wanted to discuss. We knew that this issue was very much in the news cycle because of things that have been said recently, but had no idea he would go as far as he did. But I have to say, watching this, and I've asked the President about gay marriage several times in the last couple years, He was always pretty uncomfortable given that answer about the evolution. He seemed at peace with the answer yesterday. He was very comfortable in talking about it. Again, we talked about other issues. We talked about terrorism, Mitt Romney, politics. It was a full range interview. But of course, this is the moment and this is the topic that really got everybody's attention. And it is right in the middle of a presidential campaign.

43:03 Yeah, okay. So you're full of crap. You didn't broadcast any of his interview about terrorism or anything else, only about this, because that was what your job was. You're a bitch. You're the White House administration's bitch. So I'm going to stop this answer with the end of the quote that was plugged for the past three days, and then we'll play the whole quote. We'll continue it after that. This is very important. Who are raising kids together. At a certain point, I've just concluded that, for me personally, It is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married. This is where it every this is the only clip they released and this was done on purpose. I'm going to now start the button again and listen to how he even contradicts her and then there's some interesting conversation.

43:56 And I continue to believe that this is an issue that is going to be worked out at the local level because historically, local level, that means states. He says, I continue to believe that the states need to work this out. So he's telling it exactly like it is. He's not actually saying that much. This has not been a federal issue. Well, Mr. President, it's not being worked out on the state level. We saw that. Notice how she says it's not being worked out at the state level. That's bullcrap. Well he actually, and props to him, listen to his retort. That Tuesday in North Carolina, the 30th state, to an essence ban. What I'm saying is that different states are coming to different conclusions. Very good. Right answer.

44:37 He says it is being worked out, just not the way you want it. But the states are coming to different conclusions. It is being worked out and that's how the country works. If you like it or not. If you don't like the state you're in, you want to go move to a state where it's okay to marry, same sex. New York is a great state. Go move there. Massachusetts is good. That's how it works. Now, Now she, and she's African-American I forget what her name is. Yeah, she's yeah. Listen to what she says and his affirmation of it freaked me out. I mean no one's saying anything about this. I think it's important to recognize that folks who feel very strongly that marriage should be defined narrowly as between a man and a woman, many of them are not coming at it from a mean-spirited perspective.

45:22 A bunch of them are friends of mine, you know, pastors and people who I deeply respect. Especially in the black community. Absolutely. It's a very difficult conversation to have. Excuse me, did you just call the entire black community homophobic? Is that okay? Well she's black, that's why they put her there, so she could make a comment like that. The president just said that's right! Blacks hate gays. I just heard that. That's not okay. No one says anything about that. Well, especially in the black community. It's a known fact. It's a known fact that black people hate gay people. What is this? Whole conversation. Absolutely. But I think it's important. Absolutely. That to me, that's an outrageous comment. That is, I mean, it's just outrageous. And we need to work on that. That's not okay. For me to say to them,

46:17 that as much as I respect them, as much as I understand where they're coming from, when I meet gay and lesbian couples, for me, I think it just has tipped the scales in that direction. So here's the, then they do a little walk and talk and it's all chopped up. But here's the lie about Joe Biden, because he was not, he didn't trip and force them, force their hand. It was planned. The whole thing was for him because they could have said, oh man, Joe said something really, really messed up on Meet the Press on Friday when he pre-taped it. We got to talk to them about editing that or something. They could have done all kinds of things. No, it was meant to test the waters. And you should have seen the press conference with Spokeswoman Carney. That's all it was about.

CHAPTER 16 / 49 Discussion

Political Strategy, Black Community and Prop 8

The impact of Obama's marriage announcement on the black voting block is discussed, referencing the role of black churches in the passage of Proposition 8 in California. The strategy is viewed as a risky move to gain "gay money" while potentially alienating socially conservative minority voters.

barack obama· prop 8· black churches· voting blocks· lgbt

46:58 all set up, all orchestrated, all to get gay money. So here is the Obama-O-Biden lie. I had already decided, I had already made the decision we would say this before the convention. Oh, so it's political then. Well, I have my doubts if this was, this may have been orchestrated in some way but it seems to be kind of a messed up orchestration. It's not very good. And I know that was risky because Obama, even though he's your

47:39 chiding him for not being politically correct about the black community. The fact is they have an anti-gay bias in the voting booth because of all the black churches and all the rest of it. They will come out in droves, in fact, when Prop 8 was defeated in California. It was largely because of blacks and supposedly Mormons, but everyone knows it was the black community that came out in droves to vote against it. And I think Obama is kind of having to play both sides against the middle. Maybe doing this early was the idea to get it out of the way so you're right, he could get some

48:14 gay money because there's plenty of it out there that he could use for the campaign because there's some evidence that he's not you know getting as much as he'd hoped. Let me play this 30 seconds for you from from AP sponsored Yahoo News. And then there's the money piece of it all and we learned today thanks to the Washington Post that one out of six bundlers those people who raise the big bucks for President Obama are gay. There you go. One out of six bundlers are gay. Three out of four dentists agree. Are you one of those gay bundlers? Are you a gay bundler? But he's also on his way to California. He has the big dinner with Clooney tonight. And this will blow over because he'll have to back off on this because he cannot take a chance. It becomes an election issue during the election. Exactly. Because he'll lose the black vote or enough of it.

49:01 you know, they'll, they just won't vote. I mean, that's one of the effects that they have. He's already having on the young, the youth, the people that voted for him aren't going to vote. Go ahead. It's also going to lose those, those, some of those key States where, where they really don't, the ones who voted against gay marriage. I mean, like North Carolina, If that shows up in some way, shape or form in the general election, they will come out and vote against Obama. So this is a very sketchy strategy. It's risky. I agree. It's very risky, but I think getting it out of the way early and then still having his same old, well, I'm not, you know, let the states do it. It goes states' rights, goes 10th Amendment on us, and he'll get away with it. But the thing is, ABC News didn't release the full quote until this morning.

49:48 Yeah, well they're part of the game. You're absolutely correct. Because now he can say, well, because you know, they keep playing, you're saying this, this, this. No, no, no, no, here, play the whole thing. I mean, he could do, pull the stunt you just did. And then say, look, I was explained it very well. Exactly. Those stooges at ABC cut me short. He can't lose in that regard. And I will say and Miss Mickey pointed this out that if you are a young LGBT, because that's what we have to say these days. LGBT, LGBT, LGBT. If you're a BLT LGBT, it could be inspirational if you hear the president say that. So I'm on board with that.

CHAPTER 17 / 49 Discussion

Asheville North Carolina, LGBT Terminology

A discussion on the culture of Asheville, North Carolina, leads to a tangent about the evolution of LGBT terminology. The shift from "GL" to "LGBT" and the inclusion of various sub-identities is noted as a point of confusion for older generations.

asheville· north carolina· lgbt· terminology· civil unions

50:28 But I will remind you that I'm pretty sure that as LGBT, you have every single right a straight or bicurious person has, except for actual marriage. You have civil union rights, but actual marriage in most of the states. But that'll change. Actually, North Carolina killed the civil union too. Oh really? Yeah that vote that they just finished I guess it was yesterday or the day before that it was a very heavy-handed law. It just basically said, Which is funny because North Carolina is an extremely gay state and I think that's one of the reasons. It is actually, yeah there's a big lesbian college over there. Oh yeah, in Sheeville. Yeah Sheeville, we were there remember? We were in Sheeville. Yeah Sheeville, it's Asheville, North Carolina. It's called Sheeville to the locals because it's filled with lesbians. And it's a very pleasant, I think it's just a really great town and the lesbians are inconsequential. I mean they're all over the place. Can I ask you a personal question?

51:28 What are you okay with same-sex marriage? I I am I would say I'm completely neutral I don't care one way or the other I don't have a problem with same-sex marriage if people really want to be together that badly let them I mean the libertarian Perspective is that yes, it should be it should just shouldn't even be a topic of discussion And I kind of would agree with that, but I'm not what I'm not I Big you know well, let's go out and make it happen. I don't care. It's not got nothing to do with me How come you're not fall ready for it? I don't because it doesn't it's got doesn't affect me I'm a Client I vote for my personal interests and that it's got nothing to do with anything I've got anything to do with all right, so I don't care okay all right I think the public decide the LGBT thing. I think it's an LGBTI no LBGTQ I know it's a be LG

52:22 B-I-Q-T. Did we get them all? No, I don't know. You have to put the bicurious in there. So we had... Maybe it's just L-B-C-G-T. There we go. Lesbian, gay, curious, but L-B... Okay, wait. Here's an interesting little thing that I've always found amusing. I remember when I was a kid and this term first cropped up, it was G-L. Gay and lesbian. Yeah. Something GLTBT I think. And I brought this up with what we had a gay producer. We discussed this on the show too by the way. Yeah it was two years ago. Okay. And I asked him about this and he says he says most of the he says all the gay men

CHAPTER 18 / 49 Discussion

Syria Conflict, UN Monitors and BBC Coverage

The BBC reports on the deployment of UN monitors in Syria to oversee a failing ceasefire. Amateur footage from Homs is used to illustrate ongoing violence, while activists call for more aggressive international intervention against the "brutal regime" in Damascus.

syria· bbc· kofi annan· damascus· homs

53:13 Are still baffled by how this transition took place and how the L got in front of top billing? Yeah, how the L got in front of the G? Yeah, that's lame and I want by curious in there. I want by curious in there. Yeah So anyway all of this John was a Did you see what else was going on well everyone was distracted by all this I Well, yeah, there was lots of stuff going on. What did you find? Well, you tell me what you found and then I'll get you out of here. Well, I gotta think if you wouldn't have the time to listen to this breakdown. Yeah. So I'm watching the Syrian action. Ah, we had a big one this morning, didn't we?

53:54 Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on. But I decided to, you know, not just to kind of pick on one thing. I think I may have to do one or two clips on this. We have the double agent, gratuitous. That should be at the end of the show. OK, here. So I'm watching the BBC. Mm hmm. Talk about an operation that's got its head up its ass. So, I mean, it's really bad. So they bring on some guy. They have all the memes coming out. This is the playbook, you know, where you have these the memes, oh the rape, they're raping everybody somehow. So I've got... Again? Again? So I've got, so they bring some guy on from the Syrian...

54:34 American Syrian Public Affairs Council and listen to his memes and then let me tell you something that I found that was kind of funny. Erdogan says he lost hope that it will work. He said thousands of UN monitors must be deployed to avoid full-scale conflict. Here's our UN correspondent Barbara Plett. The UN monitoring operation is in full swing. Here unloading equipment in Damascus for what may be their toughest mission yet. The observers are meant to be policing a ceasefire that doesn't exist. Their presence has brought calm in places. But nearly one month on, the assessment is that violence continues at an unacceptable level, as this amateur footage appears to show in the city of Homs. The stakes are extraordinarily high. The UN supervision mission is possibly the only remaining chance

55:30 to stabilize the country. Okay, that's the background. You can stop it there. You hear the background with the phony baloney videos. So they bring on this expert from the American Syrian Public Affairs Council. Play that. Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on, I'm getting there. Okay. Well I'm joined from Chicago by Firaz Dery who is the president of the American Syria Public Affairs Committee, a group calling for freedom, democracy and human rights in Syria. Thank you very much for joining us and welcome to BBC News. Listening to that and listening to the words of Kofi Annan, do you agree that this is perhaps the last chance, this peace plan to avoid civil war?

56:14 I think there's been many chances given to the Syrian regime, brutal regime, to... Brutal! ...to see brutality and violence in the country. Brutal! And he has shown again and again that he has no intent to stop. I think that the Annan initiative has already proven to be a failure. He has failed to withdraw his heavy artillery and military equipment from inner cities and outskirts of towns and villages in Syria. The bombardment has continued to go on. And then he shifts his activities from a military apparatus to a police apparatus where intelligence agents are escorting civilians and killing them and raping women and killing children.

CHAPTER 19 / 49 Discussion

American Syrian Public Affairs Council, Think Tank Vetting

An investigation into the American Syrian Public Affairs Council (AMSPAC) reveals it operates out of a Washington D.C. mail drop. Connections are drawn between the group's leadership and William Crystal's E21 think tank, raising questions about the BBC's vetting process for on-air experts.

amspac· william crystal· e21· think tanks· bbc

56:57 Okay, this goes on with all this bull crap. Raping children. You've got the raping pets. So I decided to figure out who these guys are. American Syrian Public Affairs Counselor at 888 16th Street Northwest number 800, which is a mail drop. Washington DC once again. The Black Alliance for Educational Options is there. The Global PR Agency is there. There's a whole bunch of, in fact, there's a company called Da Vinci Virtual that has Prime virtual offices all over the world from $125 a month. John, we gotta get us one of those. I think we should have them. That'd be awesome. We gotta have a virtual office in DC.

57:34 But they do have a website, so I checked the website out and it's called amspac.org and that's run, that was funny because this guy speaking was from Chicago even though they're supposed to be out of Washington DC. But amspac.org is run by a guy named, he's actually a neurologist out of Coral Gables, Florida called Bashar Loofti. And if you dig into Bashar Loofti, you find his signatory on a whole bunch of interesting documents including one from the Foreign Policy Institute which is foreignpolicyi.org which is registered by a proxy service so we know they're phony and they are at a mail drop at Ford DuPont Circle Northwest another mail drop it

58:20 with V1 corporation and then a group called E21 Economic Policies which seems to be really the core of this and you find the signature of William Crystal, the anti-Russian, on the document that has that has this guy Lufti's name on it and Crystal is one of the principals at E21 Economics Policies for the 21st century which is some sort of a weird think tank and I think this is all about getting is this is an attack on their agreement with the Russians to keep the Syrian thing under control. This is a complete scam and it's all mixed up with all these phony operations that are all over the place with these phony bologna's with titles that work out of mail drops all over Washington DC. This stinks to high heaven and the question in my mind is what is wrong with the BBC that they can't vet some guy like this? Yeah, would you really want me to get into that and answer that or

59:16 Now is this a, you know, whenever you have this stuff feel free to just send me a form 990 if they're a non-profit, although they don't say they're a non-profit, this AmsPak. No, AmsPak is just the front. The whole thing, the one to really look at is this E21 operation. Do they have a website? Yeah, well actually they don't have a website, they have a big PDF that comes up, it's very vague. E21? By the way, there's three or four others. Is that like an Agenda 21? It's E21. The fact that it's got 21 on it is very suspect. E21, interesting. They do, economics21.org. Well, there's somehow, I believe them to be the core group behind this.

1:00:06 Today they may be behind the whole Syrian operation the fact that things are getting out of control you have these these Bullshit artists that go on the BBC or elsewhere claiming there's rape going on or they have these phony videos at the BBC At least they say we don't know if this video is accurate. Yeah, why can't there are reporters in Syria? There are real honest-to-god reporters dozens of them, dozens or maybe a hundred or more that you could get video from but there isn't any. Well not exciting video, no. They need the shaky cam smoke explosion stuff with people running around and you don't see anything. So this thing stinks to high heaven. I'm gonna look into this economics21.org. Yeah I see the, wow, okay, interesting. Also does not appear to be a non-profit. That's always too bad because I love me some legislation.

CHAPTER 20 / 49 Discussion

Syria Executive Order, Lebanon Stability

President Obama signed an executive order extending the national emergency regarding Syria and Iran, citing threats to the Lebanese government. The historical context of the Syrian occupation of Lebanon and current regional instability is discussed as a backdrop for these sanctions.

syria· iran· executive order· lebanon· drug trafficking

1:00:58 You know I loves me the legislation John. Well anytime I see William Crystal's name. Yeah yeah that's a big well that's a big red flag. The president just signed another executive order regarding Syria um which I thought I had put in the show notes um it's an extension of the national emergency uh you know every 90 days and the and the the timing of it is just uncanny uncanny how he signs the executive order kablooey We get two huge bombs in the... You complain about potholes there. They got potholes in Damascus right now. Executive order prohibiting certain transactions with and suspending entry into the United States of foreign sanction evaders with respect to Iran and Syria. It's all about Syria. All the executive orders are about Syria and the extension of executive orders

1:02:02 So, game on I'd say. Game on for Syria. And you need to stay on this. We've been trying to figure it out for a long time but we've always had some idea that this had to do with Russia. In his executive order he specifically states there are danger to the Lebanese government which of course the only thing the Lebanese government is good for is drug trafficking. You know what's interesting is I was watching some of the footage from Homs, pipeline town, which is a nice city at one point, but the town has been decimated and it looks exactly like Lebanon did back in the day when Lebanon used to be considered the Paris of the Middle East. It was this very great, and then the Syrians went in there and essentially created a mock war with the Israelis with Lebanon in the middle and destroyed the place. It's a mess.

CHAPTER 21 / 49 Discussion

US-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act, Iron Dome

The House introduced HR 4133, the United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012. The bill pledges "unshakable" support for Israel, provides funding for the Iron Dome defense system, and expands intelligence sharing, including access to U.S. satellite data.

israel· iron dome· mossad· hr 4133· satellite intelligence

1:02:53 and it's never recovered fully and the Lebanese can't even get it together and I think this is payback in some ways. Well, so something else happened. This is one of the big distractions. A bill was introduced into the House while all of the Everyone was worried about who's gay and and about your you know your your dog blowing up Hr. 4133 also may be known as the United States Israel enhanced security cooperation act of 2012 and If you don't mind, I'd like to read a little bit from it because this essentially Enhances and extends the relationship the United States has with Israel and

1:03:41 There's some interesting things in here. So Congress finds the following we've repeatedly reaffirmed the special bond We have between Israel the United States no definition on what special bond is, but it's a special bond nonetheless At the same time Iran may soon attain a nuclear weapons capability. This is your Congress saying it right here Even though no one agrees with it. None of the military leaders say this and A development that would fundamentally threaten vital American interests, destabilize the region, encourage national, regional nuclear proliferation, further empower and embolden Iran, the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. Wait a minute, I thought that was Yemen. And provided the tools to threaten its neighbors, including Israel. Over the past several years, with assistance of Iran and Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas have increased their stockpiles of rockets with more than 60,000 rockets now ready to be fired at Israel.

1:04:34 That actually may be true. Iran continues to add to its arsenal of ballistic missiles and cruise missiles, okay. So let's move down the dock here. To reaffirm the enduring commitment of the United States to the security of the state of Israel as a Jewish state, as President Obama stated, America's commitment, my commitment to Israel is unshakable. We're awesome. We love you. To provide, so this act is to provide Israel the military capabilities necessary to deter and defend itself against any threats. 2. To veto any one-sided anti-Israel resolutions at the United Nations Security Council. That's interesting. To support Israel's inherent right to self-defense, to pursue avenues to extend cooperation in defense, civilian sectors, high-tech, agriculture, medicine, health, pharmaceuticals, etc. And then here comes the good stuff.

1:05:23 United States actions to assist the defense of Israel and protect American interests provide Israel assistance specifically for the production and procurement of the Iron Dome defense system. I love that. What is it? It's an iron dome. What is an iron dome? It's impenetrable, the iron dome. Nothing can get through it. In addition, expand Israel's authority to make purchases under the foreign military financing program on a commercial basis. So we'll be selling you weapons. Very good. Expand already close intelligence cooperation, including satellite intelligence with Israel. Now, this is a problem because we know that Mossad, we've discussed this on the show before, they were allowed to use our satellites

1:06:13 to look at basically the Middle East and they've been in there looking at us. And now we're expanding it. We're letting another country look at all of our stuff. I don't like that. I don't think that's a good idea. No. And then it goes into, and this will stop, extension of authority to provide loan guarantees to Israel. So essentially we're going to lend you this money You know won't actually get the money because you're gonna turn right around and spend it on our On our sales guys who have a lot of good iron dome for sale, which could be complete invisible Can you imagine that it's gonna be 50 billion dollars for this iron dome? You can't see it, but it really works. Yeah, really? Well, of course, it's a scam It's more money to the industrial military industrial complex because God knows they need more money. I

CHAPTER 22 / 49 Discussion

Ron Paul, Federal Reserve Reform Bills

Ron Paul introduced five individual bills aimed at Federal Reserve reform and elimination. Despite his position as head of the finance reform committee, the media is criticized for ignoring these legislative efforts in favor of more sensational news stories.

ron paul· federal reserve· c-span· finance reform· legislation

1:07:11 And I'm sure you didn't hear about that on the news. No. Ron Paul, it was too boring. I watched a lot of C-SPAN. It was just too boring to do anything with it. He had a two-hour, two single-hour conferences with introduction of five individual bills for Federal Reserve reform or what do you call it? Elimination. And he had all kinds of experts very it was very interesting to listen to and I have a link to it in the show notes for zero seven dot na show notes calm but nothing that you'd want to hear on this show you just you fall asleep I mean is it's and this is the problem because I believe what he's doing there is really right and it's really good timing little unfortunate We had all these distractions going on so no one talked about it. He is the head of the finance reform committee

CHAPTER 23 / 49 Discussion

Medical Marijuana Amendment, Rohrabacher-Farr

Representatives Dana Rohrabacher and Sam Farr introduced an amendment to a Justice Department appropriations bill to prevent federal funds from being used to interfere with state medical marijuana laws. The debate highlights the inconsistency of the House in supporting states' rights for marriage but not for medicinal plants.

medical marijuana· dana rohrabacher· sam farr· justice department· states rights

1:08:09 And there's not one drop of ink about it. No one's writing about it. There's nothing on television at all. I think it's at least worth mentioning. None of that. But the funniest one, John, happened last night. And this to me, this was just hilarious. This is about the Justice Department. Department of Justice is getting an appropriations bill, 51 billion dollars. Now of course we know that Eric Holder is completely morally and probably legally corrupt and bankrupt. The whole Justice Department blows. He should be fired. He should be put in a stockade actually. So they have this money and they're going to approve this but then they come in and there's an amendment all of a sudden. Whoa whoa whoa whoa! And the amendment is amendment number 26

1:09:10 from representatives Rohrabacher of California, Hinckley of New York, McClintock of California and Farr of California. Here is a quick read by the clerk. I watched this whole thing. I was laughing my ass off. Amendment offered by Mr. Rohrabacher of California. At the end of the bill before the short title insert the following. As chairman, I move to strike. You know a guy tries and interrupts and the guy will have no part. Go ahead, finish the bill clerk. Last word. The gentleman suspends. The clerk will read. None of the funds made available in this act to the Department of Justice may be used with respect to the states of Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington to prevent such states from implementing their own state laws

1:10:06 that authorize the use, distribution, possession, or cultivation of medical marijuana. Okay. So the amendment, and we'll have Farr explain it in his 45 seconds here, the amendment is essentially say, okay, you can have this money, but you're not allowed to use this money to go and bust up medical marijuana dispensaries like you've been doing in California. Seems like a reasonable request. Right, which by the way, we have to remind people that Obama promised that wouldn't happen if he got elected president. So, Farr actually lays it out very plainly why this is ridiculous. Ridiculous that it's taking place. It is obvious from the votes that we've been casting here yesterday and tonight, this afternoon, that this body insists on protecting rights of states to define marriage. This body insists on protecting the rights of states to set abortion policies.

1:11:03 This body insists on protecting rights of states to determine education curricula and standards. Just yesterday, this body decided that certain states get to enforce federal immigration laws however they see fit. But when it comes to protecting the rights of states to set medical scope of practice laws, this body balks. All of a sudden, states no longer have the right to determine what is best for their citizens. And when those rights include medical marijuana. So, excellent point! He's saying, wait a minute. This is bullcrap! It's his amendment. The states have this right to do all this, we agree. You know, the marriage thing, education. But a plant? Oh, sorry, you shut up slave, you got no right. So all of a sudden, and this is where it got, and you know, I just went, oh no, this is great. Wolf from Virginia. Now the guy's gotta be 80.

CHAPTER 24 / 49 Discussion

Frank Wolf, Marijuana Opposition and Reefer Madness

Congressman Frank Wolf of Virginia delivers a heated speech against the marijuana amendment, claiming it would harm law enforcement and send a dangerous message to 15-year-olds watching C-SPAN. His rhetoric is compared to the 1936 film "Reefer Madness" for its focus on Mexican drug gangs and "assassin of youth" tropes.

frank wolf· virginia· dea· marijuana· reefer madness

1:12:04 He freaks out. He totally, he just freaks out. Enjoy this with me. Not only does this amendment, what does this amendment say if a young person, 15, at a high school in whatever state is watching the house at 730 and they say the United States Congress is ready to make it easy to get marijuana I think the kids are going right on! But wait a minute, what is he saying? He's saying that some kid watching C-SPAN who's 15 years old? What kid is this? Apparently he's so delusional and it's- he means 730 which is prime time viewing for C-SPAN. Who is this asshole? He is Wolf, I think he's a congressman from Virginia. But he gets- he goes off John, this is awesome. He might be drunk actually, I'm not sure. And he sounds it.

1:13:03 the mom or dad just said what what what is going on? This amendment hurts law enforcement. Our law enforcement people are jeopardizing their lives. Marijuana is one of the most widely abused drugs in the United States. According to the DEA, more young people are now in treatment for marijuana dependency than for alcohol or all other illegal drugs. I've really got to see that survey. More in treatment for- That is bullcrap. Total bullcrap. Combined, this amendment does not address the problem of marijuana abuse and possibly makes it worse by sending a message to young people that there can be health benefits. The Drug Enforcement Administration DEA describes marijuana as quote

1:13:49 the top revenue generator for Mexican drug trafficking organizations, a cash crop that finances corruption and the carnage of violence year after year." End of quote. All you have to do is look at the news. That's why we put money back in here. for the National Gang Intelligence Unit to keep the Mexican gangs from coming into the United States. The Mexican gangs are being funded and they have a marijuana operation. You know what this reminds me of? God, what an idiot. And he is drunk. Listen to this. You and all of the school parent groups about the country and you must stand united on this and stamp out this frightful assassin of our youth.

CHAPTER 25 / 49 Discussion

Barney Frank, 420 Joke in House Debate

During the debate on the medical marijuana amendment, Representative Barney Frank makes a joke suggesting the discussion should have taken place at 4:20 instead of 7:30. The joke reportedly failed to elicit a reaction from the House floor but is highlighted as a rare moment of levity.

barney frank· marijuana· 420· house of representatives· humor

1:14:42 You can do it by bringing about compulsory education on the subject of narcotics in general, but red marijuana in particular. Marijuana! This is Reefer Madness. If you haven't seen the movie, Reefer Madness. It was exactly the same thing where they said, hey, hold on a second. It's the Mexicans. The crazy Mexicans are smoking weed. Now it's the Mexican gangs. I could play this guy forever. But Barney Franklin gets up and barney frank has the line of the night and you could have heard a pin drop and by the way before you play frank i want to know what is put up a little give people some balance on the politics here the admit the amendment with mcclintock for example being behind it one of the most

1:15:23 conservative of conservatives in the state of California. These are a lot of conservatives representing these states and that's a conservative Republican we're talking about with McClinton. This idiot Frank Wolf who should be voted out of office, he's 73 years old, he's and I don't want to be an ageist, but this guy obviously is a drunk. He's a drunk against marijuana, he should maybe smoke marijuana instead. Whatever the case, he's also a Republican so he is the old moderate bullcrap Republicans that really need to go. Anyway onward so Barney Frank gets up, and I love the guy let's be very clear This is not a case of people advocating that other people smoke marijuana It is to me an advocacy that we allow people some degree of free choice I listen to the general of Virginia and I admire his diligence, but I have to say I

1:16:17 I disagreed with almost everything he said. There was one thing he said that I thought was appropriate. He said we shouldn't be debating this at 730. And I agree, we should have been debating it at 420. That would have been a much better time. And no one left nobody got it. No one got it. I was like Barney Frank. Let me give him a little love I Thought that was hilarious We should have done it for 20 and it but yeah It's like you know when it when a joke bombs and he's just like and then you just keep talking. Yeah Yeah, listen that that's exactly what he did is kind of funny the time but other than that What about 15 year olds?

1:16:57 He was waiting, but... Oh crap, I bombed. Uh, what about 15 year olds? Ah, good on ya, Barney Frank. That's funny. So, you know, and hey, by the way, you can take it out of the hands of the Mexican gangs, but let people grow it in their backyard. And by the way, I don't buy that either. Most of the real serious money is made with cocaine smuggling. Most of the marijuana in California, from what I can tell, even though I actually haven't even been to a dispensary, but the reports are fairly obvious. It's grown in those counties in Mendocino Lake County. They named the counties. It's all grown. California, they're not smuggling in tons of dope from Mexico. They don't have to. Stuff grows like it is a weed. It grows all over the place. Yeah, it's a plant. And I think this is true in most of these areas and I think in Washington State for example, the rumor is that most of it comes in from Canada. And let me just say something about the addictive properties. I was a pothead for 10 years straight, wake and bake, the sleepy time.

CHAPTER 26 / 49 Discussion

Marijuana Cultivation, Addiction and Pharma Patents

The discussion shifts to the economics of marijuana, noting that most product in California is grown locally in counties like Mendocino rather than smuggled from Mexico. Theories are explored regarding the pharmaceutical industry's opposition to legalization due to existing government patents on synthetic cannabinoids.

mendocino· tobacco· pharmaceutical industry· oxycontin· patents

1:16:17 I disagreed with almost everything he said. There was one thing he said that I thought was appropriate. He said we shouldn't be debating this at 730. And I agree, we should have been debating it at 420. That would have been a much better time. And no one left nobody got it. No one got it. I was like Barney Frank. Let me give him a little love I Thought that was hilarious We should have done it for 20 and it but yeah It's like you know when it when a joke bombs and he's just like and then you just keep talking. Yeah Yeah, listen that that's exactly what he did is kind of funny the time but other than that What about 15 year olds?

1:16:57 He was waiting, but... Oh crap, I bombed. Uh, what about 15 year olds? Ah, good on ya, Barney Frank. That's funny. So, you know, and hey, by the way, you can take it out of the hands of the Mexican gangs, but let people grow it in their backyard. And by the way, I don't buy that either. Most of the real serious money is made with cocaine smuggling. Most of the marijuana in California, from what I can tell, even though I actually haven't even been to a dispensary, but the reports are fairly obvious. It's grown in those counties in Mendocino Lake County. They named the counties. It's all grown. California, they're not smuggling in tons of dope from Mexico. They don't have to. Stuff grows like it is a weed. It grows all over the place. Yeah, it's a plant. And I think this is true in most of these areas and I think in Washington State for example, the rumor is that most of it comes in from Canada. And let me just say something about the addictive properties. I was a pothead for 10 years straight, wake and bake, the sleepy time.

1:17:53 I quit cold turkey, haven't smoked weed for three years, not because I'm against it, I just, okay, I'm done with that. Quitting smoking? Impossible. That's addictive. So it's yeah this guy from the state of Virginia a big tobacco producer He should think twice about talking about a dick addictive products as he wants to stay well He's not gonna be real liked it. I would hold anyway Barney Frank if I ever see him. I'll give him a kiss Come here twinkle toes. Oh, he'd like that. Oh, yeah Come here Barney Frank twinkle toes. I love you for that was very funny It was like a you know if a kid was watching it the kid would be like Hell yeah mofo Barney MF Frank

1:18:37 It would be entertaining. Kids watching C-SPAN. Bonehead. Yeah, that was bad. So, that was a good catch. I think that was a great little... Little ditty. Yeah. But that was all... The amendment was probably defeated. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Forgot to mention, voted, they voted last night. Voted down. Yeah. Yeah, voted down. There was actually one guy who said, You know, we shouldn't be doing this at this time of night. We're not, you know, we're not thinking straight. We shouldn't be voting now. I'm high, man! I can't vote on the marijuana thing now!

1:19:18 Yeah, no, I think this other guy, what's his name? Was it far? Far, far, far. Where's he from? It's a Rob. It's Rob Robacher from California. Hinky from New York. It was a Democrat McClintock from California, Republican and far who's a Democrat from everyone in California. Yeah, well, there you go. California leads the way when it comes to this sort of thing. This will continue to be a battle. And I think actually, not to bring it back to a point you made some few shows ago, but it does boil down to the bankers. Yeah. And the pharma, pharmaceutical industry. Yeah, they don't want this. The crazy wolf guy brought up the pharma industry. There is a distinct possibility. The government, our government basically owns the patent on synthetically produced medical marijuana.

1:20:13 So there is a thesis that it would be bad because then it would become unaffordable. Because then, yeah, we'll legalize our stuff. So there's some point to that. Like Oxycontin, whatever it is. Yeah, I think some reports just came out, these prescription drug painkillers. Last year they killed 14,000 people from overdoses. How many people have died from overdoses of marijuana? Zero. I flew a helicopter while high. It worked great. Best landing in my life. With an instructor I'll remind everybody. There was a bunch of... I forgot which pitcher it was that threw a no-hitter on marijuana. But anyway.

CHAPTER 27 / 49 Discussion

Sukhoi Superjet 100 Crash, Airbus vs Boeing

A Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 crashed during a demonstration flight in Indonesia, killing 50 people, including potential buyers. Speculation is raised regarding industrial sabotage, noting Boeing's role as a consultant on the project and the intense competition between global aircraft manufacturers.

sukhoi superjet· indonesia· boeing· airbus· jakarta

1:21:02 So what do you... now this is changing topics. Yes. Do you have any thoughts on the Suhoi superjet blowing up? Yeah, I do actually. Can you play the clip that's backgrounder? Okay, Suhoi superjet! Here we go! Indonesian police say what appears to be debris from a Russian plane has reportedly been found in mountains south of the capital Jakarta. They suspect the debris is from a Russian-made Sukhoi Superjet 100 that went missing Wednesday with 50 people on board. Indonesia's transport ministry says the passenger plane disappeared from the radar at around 2 p.m. after taking off from an airport in Jakarta. The plane was developed by the Russian aerospace company Sukhoi. It was on a demonstration flight with Indonesian airline employees and government officials from both countries on board.

1:21:54 So first of all, let's determine, let's define what this superjet really is. It's a $35 million aircraft, so don't be thinking like it's this huge, amazing, outrageous craft. I know, it's like a 737. It's a compact... Smaller. You know what? You've already... Oops. You've already made my point. It's a competitor to the Boeing 737. Yeah. Now on board were 50 people. They were buyers. They were potential buyers. So these are buyers. That's the part that gives the giveaway. This aircraft is not a Russian aircraft. The entire they may assemble it in Russia or may have a made in Russia stamp, right? But all the parts are from the United States the United Kingdom a lot of EAD like companies

1:22:46 from France. The whole plane is constructed of almost everything but Russian parts. And who is the lead consulting contractor? That I don't know. Boeing. Well, again you answer my question for me. So this is an obvious hit because we've had this ongoing between Airbus and Boeing for years now. They keep making each other's planes fall out of the sky. So this was clearly Airbus saying screw you Boeing. You dropped our plane and the one going to France. You made our pitot tubes freeze up. We're gonna get you back. And we won't hurt innocent civilians, just buyers. A bunch of buyers who are leaning to buy this jet. Yeah, so guess what? That ain't gonna work too well. The hockey stick curve just went down all of a sudden. So this is an obvious hit job. Obvious. Hit the volcano.

1:23:49 That's what I thought too. Originally I thought it was a Boeing hit on the Russians trying to get in Kerr, but then I found Boeing behind the jet. It's their jet really. I mean even though they're just a consultant. Yeah. But it's a small, it's a kind of an in-between. It really went after the Embraer, the Embraer Zilling jet and some other of these smaller regional jets. It's great, you know, for a $35 million plane, it looks like it's pretty good, but no way. Now it could have been an inside job, of course. You know, it could have been an inside job on Boeing's part, but I would look squarely at Airbus. And this is a big business.

1:24:33 I mean this is the... Yeah, one plane is 35 million dollars, there's a lot of sales. This is the business. They go through an amazing rigmarole to exchange the money for the plane. There was a 60 minutes thing on this where they, the guys got, there's like a key, a key to the jet and you're not the owner of the jet until they give you, until Boeing gives you the key. In a box. But you have to be sitting at a computer terminal ready to transfer the money. And so you, the guy holds the key and the other guy holds the button on the, the enter button on the computer which transfers the 35 million and the two of them are like right next to each other and the guy just gets his hand on the key and the other guy and then they push it and then boom it goes off simultaneously. Meanwhile, you know, I'd be out there jumpstarting the thing. We don't need that key man, come on.

CHAPTER 28 / 49 Discussion

F-22 Pilot Blackouts, Drone Surveillance Policy

Reports of F-22 pilots blacking out due to oxygen deprivation lead to suggestions that the military is moving toward fully unmanned fighter jets. Meanwhile, the Air Force clarifies its policy on domestic drone surveillance, admitting that private property may be "incidentally" captured during operations.

f-22 raptor· air force· drones· surveillance· privacy

1:25:20 So anyway, so in other aircraft news and this came up in conversation about this, the problem with the F-22 where pilots are blacking out and two pilots, a senior one and a junior one. It's been going on for a while. Yeah, so I'm pretty sure I know what this is. This is, you know, So the problem is pilots are blacking out and the answer comes from the defense world itself. The problem is the plane has such an intense maneuvering capability and performance at such high altitude that the pilots are basically just blacking out, lack of oxygen. A human being just can't handle the aircraft. So the obvious solution is drones.

1:26:10 It's just another feather in the cap of the unmanned aircraft industry. And the F-22, we could make that unmanned. Probably. No reason why we shouldn't. Well once again there's how to fly it. I'm sure you could fly it from the ground. Yeah. So that's what that's all about in my opinion. Then the Air Force, our United States Air Force has come out and said well you know we're going to be operating all these drones And we will not be conducting non-consensual surveillance on any specifically identified U.S. persons unless expressly approved by the Secretary of Defense, who as far as I'm concerned has no authority to approve that. On the other hand, they say, I'm quoting, collected imagery may incidentally include U.S. persons or private property without consent. So, you know,

1:27:12 If by mistake, like Google, you know, if by mistake, you know, we catch you doing something then we're sorry, you know, we're not doing we're not really Surveilling you with our drones, but if it's an accident, yeah, if we see something then you know, what are we gonna do? Yeah, we can't we can't just like say we see something we say something can't just move it away We we got to be on board with the program. I'm sorry Should play the see something say something jingle. I'm itching to hear it Where the hell is it we haven't played that in a long time? She bring that back to the four yeah You know it's like one of those I can't but you know and I had it here it is color Sorry about that well John I think that it is now the opportune moment, and I don't know if you had a if you had a plan or not I

CHAPTER 29 / 49 Discussion

Hot Dog Hooker, Kathy Scalia Arrest

Kathy Scalia, known as the "Hot Dog Hooker," was arrested on Long Island for allegedly selling sex acts from her mobile vending truck. She pleaded guilty to a lesser charge, claiming she was a stripper rather than a prostitute.

kathy scalia· long island· hot dog hooker· prostitution· news

1:28:08 But you told me that we needed this on a weekly basis, so here it is! That's right, ladies and gentlemen, time for your NOAA agenda weekly hooker report! She is back in action selling hot dogs hoping to hook customers with the slogan. Get a little wiggle with your wiener. Kathy Scalia has wiggled her way to fame known by the name the hot dog hooker. Arrested for selling sex acts along with her wieners. I plead guilty to stripper. A stripper. Not prostitution. Ever since she wiggled her way out of a Long Island jail. You don't actually want to hear the whole report do you?

1:28:53 No, but I do have a week this week in hooker story myself. Hold on a second. John C. DeBorah checks in. All right. What is your hooker report? So this is on the BBC and I was kind of baffled by it. Now you have to remember in the English oftentimes when they refer to Asians, they mean South Asians and sometimes the near east. which is the Arabs and these disappear to be a story about either Pakistanis or Arabs whoring out the white chicks in some parts of apparently England and it's like you read the watch this in the story there's a number of interesting anomalies and I'd like to know what what the story is actually about if it's not just jingoism we're trying to you know create some sort of annoyance with the

CHAPTER 30 / 49 Discussion

Rochdale Grooming Scandal, UK Media Reporting

The BBC reports on a sexual exploitation case in Rochdale, England, where a group of men was convicted of raping and trafficking teenage girls. The report's focus on the ethnicity of the perpetrators and the use of "actors' voices" for victims is scrutinized for its sociological implications.

rochdale· manchester· grooming· bbc· prostitution

1:28:08 But you told me that we needed this on a weekly basis, so here it is! That's right, ladies and gentlemen, time for your NOAA agenda weekly hooker report! She is back in action selling hot dogs hoping to hook customers with the slogan. Get a little wiggle with your wiener. Kathy Scalia has wiggled her way to fame known by the name the hot dog hooker. Arrested for selling sex acts along with her wieners. I plead guilty to stripper. A stripper. Not prostitution. Ever since she wiggled her way out of a Long Island jail. You don't actually want to hear the whole report do you?

1:28:53 No, but I do have a week this week in hooker story myself. Hold on a second. John C. DeBorah checks in. All right. What is your hooker report? So this is on the BBC and I was kind of baffled by it. Now you have to remember in the English oftentimes when they refer to Asians, they mean South Asians and sometimes the near east. which is the Arabs and these disappear to be a story about either Pakistanis or Arabs whoring out the white chicks in some parts of apparently England and it's like you read the watch this in the story there's a number of interesting anomalies and I'd like to know what what the story is actually about if it's not just jingoism we're trying to you know create some sort of annoyance with the

1:29:48 with the Pakistanis or the Arabs or whoever, even the Indians in London. So play the so-called Asians whore out the girls. Some men in Britain have been convicted of sexually exploiting teenage girls in Greater Manchester. The abuse was carried out by Asian men on white girls, but police insist the grooming was not racially motivated. Judith Moritz reports. These are some of the nine men who worked together to rape and sexually assault young girls in Rochdale Luring them with alcohol cigarettes and food the circle of men abused the girls on a terrible scale Sometimes even trafficking them around the north of England the abuse happened on the streets of Hayward near Rochdale and in taxis and takeaways nearby I condemned them from the highest level

1:30:40 These are the most vulnerable in our society and they have been preyed upon by adults who should know better. Some of the girls have been spending time at this takeaway which is now under new ownership and at this fast food outlet nearby which is also now in new hands. Here they were given alcohol and at least one of them was raped in an upstairs room. I just think what they did to me was evil. This girl who can't be identified was 15 when the abuse began. They ripped away all my dignity and all my last bit of self-esteem and by the end of it I just had no emotion whatsoever because I was just used to being used and abused daily. It could be up to five different men in a day. Every day? Yeah, sometimes every day.

1:31:28 The trial attracted the attention of far-right groups who protested about the fact that the defendants were all Asian and the victims white. Two Asian barristers were threatened outside court and then withdrew from the case. The issue of whether this kind of street grooming is racially motivated has proved controversial. The police say race has no bearing on it, but others disagree. Well, there's a whole bunch of sociologies that crop up with this story, including the some of the negative stereotypes that you have with Muslims, because it went on to talk about these are Muslim men. The other thing that was interesting is that girl who was talking, oh I got raped, had to screw five guys a day, day after day, at the top left-hand corner, by the way they never mentioned prostitution in this entire story. It's as though they were white slavers or something, these were hookers.

1:32:21 The girl and the thing on the upper left-hand corner when that girl was talking said actor or actors voice Can we close it out yeah, I guess To producer Hans Hafner and Frank Sinatra I think actually participated on that came back from the grave to help us out I have so much more to You want to take a break now or do you want to do it? I think we should, yes. Should we take a little break? That's probably a good idea.

CHAPTER 31 / 49 Discussion

Listener Donations, Slide Whistle Tally and Feedback

A lengthy donation segment features feedback from listeners in Australia, the UK, and the US. Topics include a "penis break" story from Dr. Oz, the ongoing slide whistle vote, and various personal anecdotes from producers contributing to the show's "value for value" model.

dr oz· ron paul· slide whistle· value for value· maastricht

1:33:18 Okay, we do have a few donors that thank and a lot of them are voting on the seven versus nine thing and don't forget 69 69 doesn't count As I'll mention in the next newsletter Anonymous comes in from New South Wales Australia Randwick anonymous donation under $50 how much do we have to pay to hear Adams dolphin story? Well somebody already paid more than this not to hear it. Oh Trent, so you have to pay more. It's off the table. It's off the table. It's off the table. But thank you for the donation, we appreciate it. Trent Faulkner, Melbourne, Australia, or Victoria, Australia, 12121, been listening for a couple of months now and I thought I should pony up for the value I'm getting. I listened to it on my commute and have been asked on a few occasions, what is it I'm listening to and laughing at? So I turn around and hit them in the mouth.

1:34:08 The last time I was approached like this, the person continued with more questions, which eventually led me to being asked to go to a seminar of his. Oh no. Which made things sound fishy now because of you guys. So I did some research and found out that it was a vitamin supplement sponsored by none other than Dr. Oz. Oh no. You know what Dr. Oz had on the other day? Dr. Oz and I heard this from a friend. I didn't see it. I haven't gone looking for it. He had on a husband and wife and The guy says and dr. Oz agreed that he was having sex with his wife and his penis broke and the whole thing was about you know when your penis breaks that's funny because when I used to date a contortionist until she broke it off It can break

1:34:59 Apparently. Yeah, sure. So anyway, he says he wants to thank us for dodging a bullet. And he needs a de-douching Huntsman karma combo. Alrighty, here we go. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Thor Hanks in Seattle, Washington, $100.09. He does not like the slide whistle. Long time boner, second time donor. I'd like to, my official de-douching. I also need some weight loss karma. I love the show, but please pick a new instrument. You've been de-douched. You've got karma.

1:35:43 And to counter his vote, Brad Doherty in Brooklyn, New York came with $100.07, no comment. Black Knight McTank, Playa Del Rey, $100. Please sir, a bit of karma for all the NOAA agenda listeners and host of BOOT, loved the show. You've got karma. William Bryant parts unknown 99 99 mad at TSA donation See my email about why? Yeah, no It was he was it's a very angry email. Yeah Just a very angry email. Yeah, he's mad at the TSA. Yeah, he's in sport. This is a William Bryant It was a long you know, it's like nothing we haven't heard before

1:36:29 Robin Bonin when we appreciate his give him a karma just give him a gratuitous karma. TSA karma. You've got karma. Robin Bonin in Lafayette Louisiana 99.97 which puts us on the plus side for the for the slide whistle. Donating today my 33rd birthday I don't know what it means but it must be code for something I'm asking for karma for Dr. Ron Paul's with a John C. Dvorak VibraSlap stinger. Karma for Ron Paul and karma for my children and the rest of the nation and he's you know Let me get the Viber slap you have what you have a Viber slap Is that battery operated your Viber slap? Hello? Oh, here we go. You've got karma

1:37:26 okay yeah we got a million of them yeah a 3090 309 from Dennis Cruz night Dennis Cruz sir night sure Dennis Cruz in Beaverton dot a den man and hot coffee dot org submit this for following dot den man show da de n man the den man the den man on no agenda radio bike a show don't you know yeah and he's against a slide whistle is against a slide whistle mark Sir Mark Hulin, Kuhlin in Ooster Lake, Ooster Lake, which is a lake full of oysters. Yes, that's exactly right. 91-39. I vote no or a giant John only slide whistle. Sorry Adam, don't compete. You have your talent, stick to it.

1:38:18 Yeah. 91 is the cube of a negative integer of 1729, the most uninteresting number. By the way, we haven't exploited that. The paradox in itself. We'll keep it up, keeping me sane and greeting some oyster lake, Gitmo Lowlands, 2.7 miles below sea level. Meters! Not miles. Meters. Sorry, miles. He's producer of the No Agenda stream, member of the 285 nightclub and on and on. Okay, and he's a monthly 1111 donor. Yes nice. Oops. I just clicked on the thing that cover my screen up Okay, here we go Eric Vans then Velsen Edie's little ear fun fun felson fun felson in Venlo very good 89 98 hey now ITM dear John and Adam first of all I want to congratulate Adam and Mickey

1:39:11 and he does not know where to put a short note so that's why he sent it to this address. Long time boner, first time donor, I love the show. Why? 89.98? Because it was the best years in my short life till now. 89-98, okay. A lot of getting laid in those days, but that seems over for me for the time being. Oh, it's the years. It's from 89 to 98. Those were the best years of his life. Best years of my life. Okay. And he's recommending a bottle of Calatera Tributo Malbec from Chile and seems to show 03 to 60 or offline. We have to look at the archives and see what happened. Regards. Does he get asked for a karma? I don't think so. Thank you Eric.

1:40:12 I'm telling you I'm telling you before you know it you can see Elton John with a slide whistle We're gonna be like crap man. We made that up you made it up you made it up 7 7 7 7 so he's a quadruple Yes, he's all the way go slide whistle go all in all in at 77 77 sir Victor Greg Decatur, Georgia Knighted and this one lets you know my ring size and then he says thumbs up for the slide whistle with another 7 7 7 7 Gregory Wilcox Phoenix, Arizona 69 69 swastika And he's got to send us some accounting so he isn't going to be a night later. Carl Ranson, Christchurch, Canterbury. 6969, just wanted to let you know in the poker circles, the hand of six and nine is known variously as dinner for two, breakfast in bed or a happy meal. Can I get a shot at travel karma as I'm coming to Vegas? And yes, I'll be opting out, he says. You've got karma.

1:41:10 Nice. A little extra luck there. Sir Gregory Laudrup in North Hills, California, 6969, can I get some karma for my company? Times are tough right now. You've got karma. Wow, the knights are out, man. The knights are out in full force today. Yeah, it's night day. Sir Alan Bowes in Langley, BC, 6907, keep up the excellent work. Shot of karma for my wife Kim would be nice. You've got karma. Sir Joe the dish slave in Stockton, $60.07. I'm here with a pro slide whistle donation to be applied to my wife's future damehood. Please give a mention of my podcast ozone nightmare dot com and fire off some squeaky silky sweet slide whistle karma. You got it? Yeah. Are you holding on to your instrument? Yeah, always. You've got karma.

1:42:10 Peebo in Maastricht. Maastricht. Maastricht. I've been there. $60. After a long involuntary lovemaking session, you know, in the, you know what? In the morning. With the tax man. Oh, in the cavity. I finally am able to send some hard-earned currency your way. Please send some karma in return. My startup, Customer Arena, From the most beautiful city in the Netherlands, Maastricht. Thank you very much, Pim. You've got karma. Uh, Scott in Leesburg, Virginia, where he should be voting out this idiot. What's his name? Uh, Wolf. Do your part, Scott.

1:42:59 In the morning chants in the last few days number of websites is greeting me with the your own ADHD banners. No, no, no, no, it's not. It's own your ADHD. Remember that's Adam Levine. Own your ADHD. Oh yeah. Featuring that douche who makes mediocre music. That's John's favorite band man after Green Day. He loves the Maroon 5s. I was diagnosed with that fictitious disorder. At age 7, I was coerced, bullied by my school district into taking unpleasant psycho stimulants so that my fellow slave-maids suffering from mental shortfalls caused by daily fluoride tablets could learn their ABCs.

1:43:38 Thankfully mom had none of it and told the man to shove it. Yay! She saved me from being a medicated and mediocre slave. Oddly enough, my hyperactivity vanished around the same time that I stopped eating Monsanto garbage and started spending two hours a day on a bicycle. I humbly ask for some karma to help me with getting a much needed and much deserved pay raise in the order of five figures. If I can get a slide whistle karma shot to add to this endeavor, I will definitely kick back a handsome number of Federal Reserve notes to the show upon success. Please send some karma to Crash Helmet Kathy, who fully recovered from her stem cell treatment. Oh, that's Crash Helmet Kathy, who had no agenda on her brain protector. Yeah. I'm going to give him a special karma. Get ready with the slide whistle.

1:44:24 You've got karma Kathy Roberts crown boy point, Indiana 55 double Maxwell Maxwell Roberts, but I say Kathy I said Kathy. Yeah Wow How did I say Kathy? Okay, Maxwell Robertson, Crown Point, Indiana. Double nickels on the... Oh, I see. I saw that and I swinged over to the double nickels and then I looked up. You swinged? You swinged over? And saw Kathy on the line above. You swinged over? I swung over and then I looked up. There was Kathy's name and I... Kathy the crash helmet girl. No agenda drunk donation like a de-douching for the second time. I'd like to de-douche actually. PM Stephen Harper. I'd also like to give him karma.

1:45:21 because you can't de-karma and I'll go toe-to-toe with any Canadian in a douche to de-douche competition. Alright, so it's a de-douche karma? Is that what's being requested here? A de-douche for Harper and a karma. Alright. You've been de-douched. Now, you've got karma. It's up to another Canadian to douche him again. Yo. Kyle McQuestion, $55, no comment. Elizer Martinez. Elizer? Elizer? I'm not sure, E-L-I-E, would you be Eliezer? I'd say Eliezer. Eliezer. Could be. Florence, South Carolina, 5150. After so many plugs at Twit, I decided to give N.A. a try. I've been listening since January and realized I've never donated, so here it is, an extra month that reflects my current state of mind.

1:46:09 Please send it 5150 get it. Please send a tutor to head de-douching and some health karma I'm too young to have this many health conditions absolutely You've been de-douche You've got karma We just have a few left Stephen Schnabel in Akhneshin in Rothschild, not sure how to pronounce that 5107, been a while since we donated but the slide whistle debate debacle has to be addressed. Slide whistle hell yeah baby! That's Steven, Sue and Scott.

1:46:49 Jason Fenwick, Washington DC 5107 or 5007. It's been a year since I donated please deduce and slide whistle me. Count me as a yay for the slide whistle just to deduce. You've been deduced. El Cid Campiodor in Salpulpa, Oklahoma $50. From the fifth column like a round of karma for all the listeners and the both of you. Karma. You've got karma. Thimblebee, that's it. Try Thimblebee. Thimblebee. John, it's a great name. Did you take your meds this morning? I mean... I took double dose. This is a great name. This would be like a name for a detective. Patrick Thimblebee. Hero in middle sex. $50. Scott Davis, Boulder, Colorado. 50 bucks. I avoid the $40 Avenger movies tickets plus $10 in popcorn and give it to you guys. First time donor, thanks for sharing your unique look at the world. Please talk more about the

1:47:59 synthesized since the slider some time and finally last two both $50 Gert van treep here's fun type and Sarah Milligan in Sparks Nevada so we also have a long note from one of our notice yeah before we do that I just want to remind people who are new to the program and let's also remember we have to give a slide whistle interim accounting update That this the entire premise of this show which we've been doing now it's in our fifth year is based on the value for value cancer. Cancer. Cancer. The value for value cancer. It's a plague. That's right. Whoa. The value for value concept. Yeah. You said my Cathy was bad. Yeah. I did. I had to. I always got to top you. I'm a top.

CHAPTER 32 / 49 Discussion

Matt Taibbi, Media Commercial Taboos

Rolling Stone writer Matt Taibbi explains on CNN that commercial interests prevent the media from declaring elections "foregone conclusions." He argues that pundits must drum up false suspense to maintain ratings and sell advertising, even when an outcome is predictable.

matt taibbi· rolling stone· cnn· advertising· media bias

1:48:52 So this morning on CNN just and one of our producers caught this and sent me a long clip But I clipped it down had enough time before the show started Matt Tebe who is writes for the Rolling Stone He's written some pretty interesting articles in particular about the financial crisis. He laid out one of the reasons why Or he actually really gave us the opportunity to to pat ourselves on the back for choosing a model that enables us to really give you the truth and call bullcrap when it's bullcrap and This is something that you've discussed many times on the show John he actually says what is going on with politics the elections and the media and how the money flows and

1:49:35 Yeah, that's possible, but one of the things you have to remember and you know I think we all in the media We all get caught up in this there are very few political taboos left in American Journalism, but there are a lot of commercial taboos and one of the big ones is you can never say that something is a foregone conclusion It's our job in the media to try to drum up interest in this. We have to sell advertising, we have to get viewers and get ratings. And so we can't just come out and say that this thing is over six months before it happens. So there's a strong incentive by all the pundits, including people like me, to come out there and say, well, this could happen, that could happen, Romney has a legitimate chance. It's just a subconscious pull that works on all of us in the media that drives us to make those kinds of comments. I think. Perfect. He just explained it right there.

CHAPTER 33 / 49 Discussion

Stolen Knighthood Ring, Mark Boddiford Story

A letter from a listener in Mobile, Alabama, describes how her boyfriend's No Agenda knighthood ring was stolen during a burglary at his iPhone repair shop. The show agrees to send a replacement ring to the loyal producer, acknowledging the sentimental value of the community tokens.

mobile alabama· knighthood ring· theft· iphone repair· community

1:50:23 That's it. That's why it'll be a close election right to the last. It's gonna be close no matter what. Oh Obama's ahead by two points. Oh, Romney's ahead somehow by two points. Send us more money. So please, well yeah indeed, send us more money. Devorak.org slash N-A Before I go to the results from our slide whistle poll at the moment we have a quick note here. Well actually, Dear John and Adam, this is from, I can mention her name right? I was hope so Blakelyn Gartman great name. Yeah another great name And she said well I have never donated emailed you guys before but but my boyfriend certainly has my name is Blakelyn Gartman my boyfriend and longtime producer of the no agenda shows Mark Boddiford Yes, we remember the name we are both from Mobile, Alabama and listen you guys all the time I just made my first donation of 33 33 moments ago one major reason I am contacting you guys because Mark may very well be your biggest fan and

1:51:19 He owns an iPhone repair service here in Mobile and works his ass off. On one of our first dates about a year ago, I saw what I now know to be his knighthood ring displayed proudly on his desk. I asked him what it was. He gave me a passionate, lengthy description of the two of you and your show. I've been hooked ever since! About six months into mine and Mark's relationship, Mark's office was broken into along with several thousands of dollars worth of parts and merchandise. His ring was stolen. Oh, nose. I was wondering how much of an issue it would be to send him a replacement or something from you guys that would mean as much or more to fill the void. Also, I wanted to make sure you guys knew how vital you are to this country. It was such a relief to learn of you and your show's existence. If it weren't for brave, intelligent, and dedicated people like yourselves, we would be in even greater turmoil. Thank you guys for all your gumption, commitment, and all-round badassness.

1:52:14 And if you do read any of this letter on the air it'd be really great if you could send mark a shot of karma because he's a loyal promoter of your show and if anyone deserves a break as him if you guys aren't already fed up with all my requests I know you guys play a squirrel. It would be Mark's birthday. Thank you so much, and she sent pictures and Hello Smoking hot yeah, we'll give them the karma absolutely You've got karma. That's how you get us to read your letter First there's a picture of a big fish And then her. Oh yeah, the guy caught this huge fish. Can we send him a replacement ring? Aren't these things good? Yeah, I think we can manage after this request. Yeah, all right. John, quick, give us an update. What is the current tally on the go-no-go for the slide whistle? What are we at right now? We have, I doubt you mentioned it, I closed that window. You tell me. We have currently against, i.e. a niner donation, 14.

1:53:19 Four as in a seven donation, 29. So we're still ahead and we will continue to tally the votes. Slide Whistle stays on the program for the moment. Dvorak.org slash NA. If you don't know how it works with the seven or nine then... I am a little concerned that so many people really detest the slide whistle that I'm wondering if we should, you know, I mean I don't they just hate it I guess. It's your birthday, birthday, on no agenda!

CHAPTER 34 / 49 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Howard and Sir Gregory

Howard Gutknecht and Gregory Wilcox are officially knighted for their significant financial contributions to the show. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "hookers and blow" decree and their induction into the No Agenda Roundtable.

knighthood· ceremony· roundtable· producers· honor

1:54:07 Father Greg Bus celebrates on Saturday the 12th. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show! And we have a couple nightings, John. This is a very big day for us. Put away the slide whistle and grab your sword if you don't mind. Next! A good next! Step forward. Gregory Wilcox, come forward as well, please. Both of you have contributed to the No Agenda show, the best podcast in the universe, in the amount of $1,000 or more. That means you get to take a seat at the coveted night of the No Agenda Roundtable's roundtable. So please let me pronounce thee hereby Sir Howard and Sir Gregory, both knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay.

CHAPTER 35 / 49 Discussion

IPCC Report, Extreme Weather vs Climate

The latest IPCC report is analyzed, noting a shift in terminology from "climate" to "extreme weather." The report suggests that by the end of the century, the primary risks will be cyclones and heavy rain rather than extreme heat, effectively changing the rules for climate change adaptation.

ipcc· climate change· extreme weather· cyclones· carbon credits

1:54:56 Wenches and beer, hot pants and booze for you. Thank you again for your contribution to the product. I think we've put the work in. I've done more work if you're... I think somebody... I mean, now our No Agenda knighthood ring is a target for thievery. Of course it is. I think it's interesting. Yeah, it's like... Look at that, Bill! Steal it! Steal it! What is it? Hey, it looks gold. It's tungsten. All right. Um, you want to what do you want to hear now? I looked in the IPCC report if you're interested in that. Oh, yeah, I'm always game for that. Go for it. Okay, let me just open it up. It's 500. No, I'm not gonna I mean, obviously, I'm gonna make this reasonably short. But let me give you a rundown. So this is the managing the risks of extreme events and disasters.

1:55:51 to advance climate change adaptation. We talked about this in the last show, they've come up with this, they're actually turning the whole climate change thing or anything that happens into an argument to get money for this climate change, whatever it is they're up to besides the scam with the carbon credits. And by the way, I want to mention, I don't say it enough, if you're really this serious about this climate change thing, why is there a cap in trade? Why isn't there just a cap? Just shut your face, shut your piehole. Stop emitting co2 shut up. Just shut up go through life silent. That'll help or take a nap for humanity Oh, we haven't done that one in a while Yes, one of our less popular

1:56:36 So I'm going to summarize a couple things here because the first 300 pages are all about, they have these confidence levels. High confidence, medium confidence, low confidence. They have medium to high confidence that by the end of this century we're going to see a real warming. So now they've essentially said it's going to be in 90 years from now. So that's all over this report. It's all about the end of the century. And what is it we're going to see? It's now the very important what they've done here. They've changed the rules. We were not allowed to say whether it was just weather is not climate. They've changed those rules throughout this entire document. It's all about extreme weather. The whole thing. Wait a minute. Hold on a second. Stop. I thought weather wasn't climate.

1:57:26 That's changed with this report. Oh, okay. Weather is not... Climate is gone. It's about extreme weather and the risks that extreme weather pose to us. So this climate change, what they say according to this report, is going to bring us rain and wind. So we're no longer gonna fry to death. That's gone. It's going to be cyclones and lots of rain. I just found that very, very peculiar. So they go in this whole thing about all of these super duper risks and how everyone's going to die. And how are they going to implement this? Well, it turns out it's going to die. Yeah. We're kind of screwed. What they've done is and I have some just again, a kind of an executive summary.

CHAPTER 36 / 49 Discussion

UN Framework on Climate Change, Refugee Law

The United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) is identified as the legal basis for global climate policy. The report explores using international refugee law and "human rights law" to force states to act on climate change under a "Responsibility to Protect" doctrine.

unfccc· agenda 21· refugee law· human rights· disaster management

1:58:23 This started in 1992 and we have a treaty, we have a framework which I was not aware of, but this is linked in the show notes, 407.nashowness.com, the United Nations Framework on Climate Change, better known as the UNFCCC. And we were, the United States was a part of this. We're party to the convention. And again, 1992, this is how old all of this is. So, and how are we going to shepherd all of this stuff in? I'm reading from your, from the report now. There are two main mechanisms at the international level, which is what all this is about, Agenda 21, getting you to basically give up your rights to save the earth.

1:59:04 At the international level that are purpose-built and dedicated to disaster risk management and climate change adaptation. Oh I'm interested now this by the way is a page 396 These are the United Nations International strategy for disaster reduction UNISDR and the United Nations Framework Convention on climate change in particular in its adaptation components The evolution of climate change adaptation has been driven primarily by the recognition of the global issues of anthropogenic, that means man-made, climate change. And they put a little high confidence behind that. But here's the one that was very interesting. Other areas include international refugee law.

1:59:52 So they're going to use refugee law to say, look, we have to take care of people who are in a cyclone because of climate change. So we don't want that risk. So we should get rid of carbon in the atmosphere. And they go on to say, it's a good one. Oh, yeah. No, it gets better. So is refugee law, which has been invoked to deal with the displacement of people that might might be in part attributed to climate change, comma, human rights law as used by citizens against states for climate change impacting the environment of human rights. Are you following me on that one? Oh yeah, yeah. You're really pulling out all the stops. And here's the best one.

2:00:38 and the attempts to expand existing legal doctrines such as the emerging Responsibility to Protect doctrine to motivate states to act on climate change. This is very interesting because the president just set up that panel. You remember? The Responsibility to Protect Citizens panel in other countries? I don't remember that. Yeah, it's the whole Pentagon and it's you know it's there to protect that we have a responsibility to protect citizens who are being slaughtered by other dictators or by climate change.

2:01:21 Climate change, yeah, it's big. Climate change adaptation could be factored into all disaster risk management and weather-related disasters are becoming an essential component of the adaptation agenda. There it is right there. Governments have committed to mobilize greater amounts of funding for climate change adaptation and this may also help to support the longer-term investment necessary for disaster risk reduction. So essentially what they're saying here is, hello ladies and gentlemen, if you don't want to die, if we don't want all these disasters, then... Give us money. Exactly, pay for it. Those are really the highlights. I've marked up this entire document. Let me see if there's anything else.

CHAPTER 37 / 49 Discussion

Polluter Pays Principle, Maastricht Treaty Article 5

The "polluter pays" principle and the concept of "subsidiarity" from the Maastricht Treaty are discussed in the context of international environmental law. These legal frameworks allow for centralized intervention if local governments are deemed ineffective in meeting greenhouse gas stabilization goals.

maastricht treaty· subsidiarity· polluter pays· greenhouse gas· sovereignty

2:02:09 Yes, wait, there was some existing law that I wanted to highlight. Beyond a sense of common human concern, it can be argued that countries contributing most to climate change have an obligation to pay to reduce or compensate losses of others. This is the principle underlying the polluter pays principle. We got to pay attention to that one. That's a nice one. Yeah. The principle of subsidiarity can be invoked to support a case against international intervention. Subsidiary or what did you say? No, it says subsidiarity. Subsidiarity. Yeah.

2:02:53 Well this is this was set up the only read let me read this little paragraph the principle of subsidiarity can be invoked. I gotta look that one up. Let me get it. Subsidiarity. And I'll tell you where you can look it up. Can be invoked to support a case against international intervention best known as articulated in article 5 of the Maastricht treaty of the European Union It is based on the concept that centralized governing structures should only take action if deemed more effective or necessary than action at a lower level. This is where Europe gets screwed. And I didn't know this, I haven't read the Maastricht Treaty, only the Lisbon Treaty. The Maastricht Treaty says if all the states in Europe aren't doing their job, then Starfleet command gets to take over. That's basically it.

2:03:50 And then it goes into the international conventions again It says that the UNFCCC which we are a part of here in the United States is binding and legal then they have Here it is. Here's the article from the UNFCCC which we signed on to him. It says this is article, whatever it is, to achieve stabilization of greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere at a level that would prevent dangerous anthropogenic, man-made, interference with the climate system. Such a level should be achieved within a time frame sufficient to allow ecosystems to adapt naturally to climate change, to ensure that food production is not threatened, and to enable economic development to proceed in a sustainable manner. The debate is over. We've already signed on to this.

2:04:37 It's done. It's in the treaty. They're going to say it's a law and there's actually a whole bunch of commitments. This is what we've committed to formulate, implement, publish, regularly update national and where appropriate regional programs containing measures to mitigate climate change by addressing anthropogenic emissions, by sources and removal by sinks of all greenhouse gases. Basically it's just telling you exactly what's happening. This is why is because we signed on to this Packed the UNFCCC and it's just being implemented and Al Gore I guess read this document nothing better to do and just went for it. Yeah Yeah, it's a big scam to get money. Do I have one more here? This is so much. I just really don't know where to start Oh here it is the emerging legal doctrine of responsibility to protect has also been proposed in application to natural disasters

2:05:39 See where this is coming from? The emergence of state practice in observing certain responsibilities before, during, and after natural disasters occur. Before a natural disaster occurs. In the absence of obligations to do so supports an emerging responsibility to protect in the context of natural disaster and sources of human rights law are to be used in promoting this doctrine. So it's the UNFCCC, which I'll take a look at it saying, I mean, I don't even have to do it. We're screwed. This tells you exactly how it's going to be done because of extreme weather, which climate wasn't weather all of a sudden. It is. That's now what's going to be used to sell us that climate change is taking place.

CHAPTER 38 / 49 Discussion

Geoengineering, Solar Radiation Management

A New Yorker article on geoengineering explores methods to cool the planet, such as seeding clouds or injecting sulfates into the stratosphere. These "solar radiation management" plans are compared to volcanic eruptions and linked to the broader public discussion regarding chemtrails.

geoengineering· chemtrails· sulfates· carbon sequestration· new yorker

2:06:23 Interestingly enough, well man-made climate change anthropogenic climate change. Yes man-made climate climate change is always taking place interestingly enough New York magazine New Yorker I should say can geoengineering solve global warming is the question and you should read this article linked in the show notes and This is the beginning of it is coming now into the into the vocabulary geoengineering and I'll just pick this from the article geoengineering actually refers to two distinct ideas about how to cool the planet the first solar radiation management focuses on reducing the impact of the Sun whether by seeding clouds spreading giant mirrors in the desert or injecting sulfates into the stratosphere

2:07:19 Most such plans seek to replicate the effects of eruptions like volcanoes which happen naturally Which is why are we doing them because we like? I do have my one my one kind of crackpot thesis which I'll bring out I think that the that they're trying to trigger an ice age because the ice age is really the most dangerous of the two possibilities and it's cold and Yeah, and people die. It sucks. It's really... And it wipes out England. Well, there's some benefit apparently. Yeah, there's always some benefit. The other approach is less risky and involves removing carbon directly from the atmosphere and burying it in vast ocean storage beds or deep inside the earth.

2:08:04 But without a significant technological advance, such projects will be expensive and may take years to have any significant effect. So what they're essentially saying is the way to go is chemtrails. Yeah, that's what they're saying and I believe it's gonna come out. We were saving you all along my friends We've been doing the chemtrails for a while and aren't you happy you're still alive That's what that's what's gonna come out big mirrors in the desert, please Big mirrors in the desert big big imagine if I find the Boeing 747 over there. Whoa Just catch the light just right Melts the plane in the air

CHAPTER 39 / 49 Discussion

Greek Elections, Anti-Bailout Sentiment

Greek political leader Alexis Tsipras challenges the European Union by calling for an international audit of the national debt and a rejection of austerity measures. The inability to form a coalition government in Athens creates significant uncertainty for the future of the Eurozone.

greece· alexis tsipras· eurozone· bailout· debt audit

2:08:47 So, to back up a little bit, back to the European thing, I do have a mini report which I found was kind of interesting. I think this was on the BBC, on Greece. Greece has had these elections and they can't form a majority so they're going to have elections again probably in the next week. If you strike out, just do it again. Shut up, slay, vote again. You haven't done it, you didn't do it right. They didn't do it right, they did something wrong. Whatever the case is, they have no government. You didn't do it right. But somebody was moaning and groaning about this and I thought there was something interesting that came up in this. There's just an interesting... I didn't have this thought until I heard this. I think that the right thing to do, the Greek people, is not to pay the debts. Not to pay the debts at all? Yes, not to pay the debts at all. And this man may be taking Greece in that direction. Alexis Tsipras, anti-bailout leader of the left,

2:09:42 was asked by the president to form a coalition government. He probably won't manage, but his challenge to the European Union is clear. The people have voted to tear up the bailout. Our national debt should be internationally audited. We should hold off paying it back. We demand a fair solution. It's unclear whether Brussels or Berlin is putting any direct pressure on the politicians here. Both have said that Athens has to stick to the terms of its bailout deal. And yet it's very hard to see how any government could be formed on that, or indeed any other basis. There are days of uncertainty ahead.

2:10:22 They'll do nothing to calm the nerves in the eurozone. So two things came up in this report that caught my attention. One was, and I think we've discussed this like a year ago, one is the idea of they want to audit the debt. They think they've been scammed. There's gambling going on there? They've been scammed and they're finally getting a clue that they wanted audited, an international audit. They're not talking about the EU audit, they wanted to have somebody look at the books. Like Anderson. Yeah. Arthur Anderson, bring those guys in, they're trustworthy. So there was that, so I thought that was interesting and I believe they probably have been scammed in some way. The other one was, this is the first time I've, at least the first time I've heard it, maybe you've heard it before, but generally speaking when you talk about the EU, you talk about Brussels. You don't talk, you don't say Brussels or Berlin. No, no. Do you have this report somewhere where they say that? That, you just listen to. I didn't hear the, I missed that part, the Brussels and Berlin. It's right at the end. Well, it makes sense.

CHAPTER 40 / 49 Discussion

EU Commission, Brussels and Berlin Axis

EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso insists that Greece must stick to its budget discipline, offering no alternative to the current bailout terms. The shifting power dynamic in Europe is noted, with the media increasingly referring to the "Brussels or Berlin" axis of control.

jose manuel barroso· brussels· berlin· austerity· greece

2:11:27 So yeah, I know they say Brussels or Berlin and I'm thinking oh, they're starting to shift the axis Yeah the center of the whole thing to Berlin because it just introduced it as a Brussels or Berlin and then pretty soon is the you know, the Germans have managed to Do what they're trying to do take over Europe? I have a follow-up clip to that That comes from Euronews about this Berlin Brussels. Brussels has warned Athens it has no choice but to stick to tough budget discipline. Speaking for the first time since Greece's election which saw a backlash against austerity, the EU Commission's president urged leaders there to act responsibly. The program countries, they have no alternative.

2:12:14 except disorderly default, that I think it's not an alternative, than to pursue courageous fiscal consolidation methods, structural reforms for competitiveness and of course mostly also benefiting from European solidarity, some targeted investment, but investment that can bring growth. Despite the ongoing political uncertainty in Greece following Sunday's electoral results, President Jose Manuel Barroso insisted Brussels remains committed to the country. In other words, shut up and take your austerity, you bitches.

2:12:50 Shut up. So the public in Greece is kind of on to what's going on. The French obviously are too because the new guy wants to kill the austerity thing and go with growth. You know that that's, you know that guy's got to be a shill, right? Well, he's a shill for someone. But the public is the one voting for the shill. And I think the public thinks the things that, like, especially in Greece, We've got a system. It worked fine. We're doing our own thing. Everyone's retiring. We live in the good life. We retire at 55 or whatever. Hold on a second. We know from the report that the Greeks work more than any other, more hours. Right. They were the hardest working group. We saw that. We did that on one of the shows recently. We discussed the fact that they are the number one productivity country. Well, I don't know about output, but they work the hardest. Whatever the case is, we know that they have a sense that why is this happening to us now?

2:13:42 you know if you really trace it back it goes back to 2008 with the housing crisis in the United States but that's not really what the crux of it was it was all these bundled mortgages that went into the investment community many of them in Europe who lost their asses but then they had to make up for it in some way shape or form by stealing money from elsewhere, the Greeks have got to feel that there's something completely wrong with what's going on. It's a scam of some sort because it makes zero sense for them, for their economy to have collapsed the way it did. Particularly with all of the natural resources they have right offshore, other than that it's all going to be sold and we'll have oligarchs there just like what happened in Russia.

CHAPTER 41 / 49 Discussion

Nigel Farage, Europe Day and National Socialism

Nigel Farage delivers a speech in the European Parliament criticizing "Europe Day" as an attempt to smash democracy. He compares the current economic collapse in Greece to the German elections of 1932, warning that the Eurozone's failure could lead to a rebirth of national socialism.

nigel farage· europe day· ve day· eurozone· democracy

2:14:22 I do, I have a Nigel Farage rant about this. It's always nice to... Summarize it best. Yes. Oh yeah. If you live in Europe, lock the door. Well, Happy Schuman Day, or Europe Day as you now call it, although I thought the celebrations were rather muted. The only bit of real passion we had was Mr Schultz slagging off the English, but that now appears to be the sort of popular sport in this Parliament. And when people stand up and talk about the great success that the EU has been, I'm not sure anybody saying it really believes it themselves anymore. I think we're celebrating the wrong day. We shouldn't be celebrating the 9th of May. We should be celebrating... Yeah, I just need to point out, the 9th of May was Europe Day.

2:15:07 That was yeah before that and I have a clip of this, but we don't need it I don't have to play this clip before that it was VE Day Yeah, which is still celebrated VE Day was victory in Europe day Which is celebrated variously on the 5th 6th 7th 8th and 9th of May yeah I think the Russians are the only country that still Celebrates that they have a big parade and then Putin was there the bit with the big VE Day victory in Europe day It's, I don't even think the American public is aware of VE Day because it came and went and nobody, you see anything on the news that you know victory we beat to Hitler? Well, but this is what Nigel Farage is saying. And that became Europe Day and then now it's this other bullshit? Yeah, no one cares. It's like, what is this, National take it up the rectum day? Bend over here comes again day.

2:15:53 Alright, Farage is going to predict the future. Put this in the Red Book. The 8th of May, victory in Europe day. See, there he is. He's your boy. We should celebrate the last time the Germans tried to smash the continent and they found it, and at least half the continent got its democracy back. What we're celebrating on the 9th of May is another attempt through different means to smash democracy across Europe. You are spot on. I hadn't even thought that you hear him explain it now. It's like, thanks for the context. It's a... that's almost like a trick, like just so they all can laugh, like... Yeah, so they could laugh at you because, you know, the Germans were defeated on the 8th. Yeah, so... But they're back on... They're back on the 9th. 24 hours, bitches, and here we are again.

2:16:39 that Jean Monnet was well-intentioned at the start. He thought that if you abolish nation states, you would stop there ever being another war. He didn't at the time of course have the benefit of seeing that theory as it played out in Yugoslavia. But like communism, this has all gone badly wrong and the EU titanic has now hit the iceberg. It is a European Union of economic failure, of mass unemployment, of low growth, but worst of all, it's an EU with the economic prism of the euro. And this now poses huge dangers to the continent. We face the prospect of mass civil unrest, possibly even revolution in some countries that are being driven into total and utter desperation. But there is perhaps an opportunity, there is perhaps some good news.

2:17:30 that now a democratic rebellion has begun. It began in Finland last year with the true Finns getting nearly 20% of the vote. And we're seeing in country after country new political movements on the right and the left making big scores. But that may not all be good news, because in Greece what we saw last Sunday was rather reminiscent of the German election of 1932. We saw the status quo centre collapse and the extremes of right and left rise. You know this project could even cause the rebirth of national socialism in Europe. We are headed the wrong way. We must

2:18:09 break up the Eurozone. We must set those Mediterranean countries free. We must try to build a Europe. I want a Europe, but a Europe based on trade, a Europe based on cooperation, a Europe based on us sitting around the table and agreeing sensible rules on crime and the environment. We can do all of those things, but we cannot do it if we're asked to rally behind that flag. I owe no allegiance to that flag and nor to most of the people in Europe either. Burn it I say! Burn the flag! Burn the stars in the circle! So instead of anything useful, I thought for our European friends who have not seen it, again under clips and stuff in the show notes, marked up for your convenience. Have you heard about this? This is about the internet. I just had a bald eagle fly past the window. Shoot it!

CHAPTER 42 / 49 Discussion

EU Strategy for Better Internet for Children

The European Commission has drafted a strategy for a "better internet for children," which includes funding for age-appropriate content and interoperable platforms. Critics argue this is a pretext for implementing a pan-European age verification and censorship system.

internet safety· censorship· age verification· digital single market· children

2:19:07 Weirdest thing you don't see him down here that much anyway going we got a communication from the Commission to the European Parliament the Council the European Economic and Social Committee and the Committee of the regions From Brussels now this is only the draft, but it is the quote European strategy For a better internet for children. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I saw this all right So I'll just give you a few highlights. Yeah There's so much blatant bullcrap in this. First line, although the internet was not created with children in mind... What is that?

2:19:48 I don't know, most things aren't created with children in mind except children's books. Yeah, but that's how they started off. Children have specific needs and vulnerabilities and their differences have to be recognized. The internet and ICT provide the children with a wide range of opportunities to play, learn, innovate and be creative, to communicate and express themselves, to collaborate and engage in society, to be more aware of the world around them and to develop essential skills and exercise their rights. But children also need to be protected. Where's the clip? Oh, won't somebody please think of the children? I got your clip right here. Don't you worry about it. The commission report on how existing child safety recommendations are being implemented in the member states shows that broadly they are making increasing efforts to respond to digital challenges, but the measures taken are insufficient. So then they list what the UK is doing. We know the UK is doing the blocking.

2:20:51 But there's been a failure of the market to deliver protection measures and quality content across Europe. An interesting note here, children have yet to be identified as a target audience worth investing in. Hello? What? What planet are you on? Wow, they got from Neptune. I mean, that's like the number one market. Are you kidding me? In 2010, four in ten children in Europe reported they encountered one of the following risks. Risks, John, these are risks. Count them with me. Communicating online with someone they had never met face to face. That is a risk. That is a big risk. Being exposed to user-generated content promoting anorexia, self-harm, drug-taking, or suicide.

2:21:39 Being exposed to sexual images online and misuse of personal data. Here's a big risk. Going to meetings offline with people they first met online. Oh, what a risk. And being cyber bullied. Oh yes. Of course there's also sexting and sending receiving sexual images or messages from peers to peer. Ooh, this is bad. Kids, you better get ready because it's going to be over. Research shows there is a serious digital skills deficit amongst Europe's children. Ah. Despite the popular view, they are digital natives. So you're dumb. So you know, you're dumb, but don't worry. You're a bunch of dumb kids. The government's gonna... You don't even know how to download right. The government is gonna help you. With the... Yeah, the commission will fund actions... Well, here it is. EU policies so far have not sufficiently recognized that children constitute a specific target audience for the internet.

2:22:37 requiring a new ecosystem to support its needs. Ooh! A safe internet. Europe needs a strategy that will prevent market fragmentation and create a safer, enriching environment for all EU children online. The Commission will fund actions under the strategy. John, here's where the Curry-DeVore consulting group can make some money. Through the Safer Internet Program and the Connecting Europe Facility, And Horizon 2020 from 2014. These are big, big, this is going to be fun. Young children need online playgrounds where they can both play and learn. Teenagers could benefit from creative and educational games to stimulate their imagination and support their positive use of the internet.

2:23:27 To facilitate this it is necessary to stimulate the creation of content that will both support children's development and a European digital single market. This is where we can make a lot of money because the Commission says it will pay for interoperable platforms for tools ensuring access to age-appropriate content such as whitelists or child-friendly browsers while considering the issue of continuous quality control, i.e. censorship. They will be paying for the best children online content competition. John, we can make a... Frickin' we can clean up in this thing, man. We can clean up. We need to do this. Anyway, so what they're going to create here, and this is the platform that they're talking about, is an age verification system.

CHAPTER 43 / 49 Discussion

European ID, Electronic Authentication Framework

A proposed pan-European framework for electronic authentication would require users to identify themselves via a European ID to access the internet. While framed as a way to protect children from "grooming," the system is viewed as a significant expansion of government surveillance and control over online activity.

eid· authentication· privacy· right to be forgotten· spain

2:24:22 In other words, when you want to log on to the internet, and of course everyone has to have the age verification system, which will be done through the EID, the European ID. This is already happening in Spain. If you want to interact with your government online, you have a little card reader, you put your European Gestapo pass into the card reader, it then identifies you as you, because you got your card, so apparently it's you, and then you can communicate safely and comfortably with your national government. This will be your European ID to get online at all. You will have to authenticate yourself and say, Hi, I'm Adam Curry. I live in Amsterdam. I want to get on the internet. You will not be able to do it without identifying yourself first. But of course, this will be done to empower children to deal with the risks such as cyberbullying or grooming. Grooming.

2:25:22 Yeah, grooming. That's what we're... that's this other thing they were talking about. That's funny you mention that because that's what that BBC report was about. Those Arabs were... they kept saying, even though they didn't play the whole report, the ones that whored out these hookers. Yeah. They were grooming them. Grooming, grooming, grooming. Well, grooming, just like the word gay, used to mean something else. It meant like brushing your hair. Yeah. Making you close... Now it means you have to be a hooker. That's how we operate here, ladies and gentlemen. And... are you Skyping me? No. Oh, sorry. Somebody else's. No, it's Skype giving a message. Skype is spam. So what the commission is saying is if industry does not get going with content, then they're going to make rules. They're going to do it anyway.

2:26:10 Anyway, it's a bluff. They're going to do it anyway. Of course they do. So the commission is going to put a new protection regulation, take specific account of children's privacy, introduces the right to be forgotten, which is bullcrap because the government will know it was you. They intend to propose in 2012 a pan-European framework for electronic authentication that will enable the use of personal attributes, age in particular, to ensure compliance with the age provisions. This is tricky, I like it. This is their getting censorship through the mechanism of think of the children. Exactly. Great, it's genius. Of course it's not unexpected. I'm surprised they don't bring child porn into the picture.

CHAPTER 44 / 49 Discussion

Herman van Rompuy, European Integration Crisis

Herman van Rompuy, the unelected President of the European Council, states that crises are "fruitful periods" for creating more European integration. He dismisses the rise of the far-right and insists that politicians must show "courage" by pushing for a unified Europe even without a clear majority of public support.

herman van rompuy· lisbon treaty· integration· crisis· sovereignty

2:26:52 Do you really want me to read on or I think we're done your point your porn will be your porn will be of the highest quality Otherwise you'll get kicked off. So yeah, this is a done deal and it's not just you know, it's every it's Europe It is Europe wide done deal done deal forget about it comes here next. Oh, of course. We're gonna have it here next Now just to wrap up my European segment because I'm getting tired of it. I have some haiku Herman drops Oh cool. It's always cool when haiku Herman the best he did a little he did a little conference ask me The Ask Me conference, it went on for hours. I got like two minutes into chunks. So the way it worked, you could tweet a question, you could send in a webcam video question, or they had some shills there in the audience and none of that was interesting, of course. Here's the first question to Haiku Herman. I don't have the question, I'll give you his answer will come. The question is, will the EU become just like the United States of America? Now we know part of his answer already, but the rest of it was rather interesting.

2:27:55 No, I don't think so. The European Union will never become the United States of Europe. We are 27 or 28 with Croatia. Each of us has his own history, some history of 200 years as Belgium, some history of 1000 years. So we are not as an American state. We have our own language, we have 23 languages in Europe. We got 23 languages here too, douchebag. At least. Yeah. By the way, for those of you who don't know, Herman van Rompuy is the unelected president of the United States of Europe. So we have a special identity in each of our member states and a very specific situation due to our history. But what we have to do is to create

2:28:39 Every time we can and the crisis period is a very fruitful period for this Unfortunately, we have to create more Europe now. Did you hear what he just said every shit? He said every chance we get essentially And a crisis is a very fruitful period for that, unfortunately. We have to create more Europe. Yeah, this is the German thinking. But he's basically saying... Yeah, we're going to take over the place and now that we've taken over this much, let's take over Poland and let's take over Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania is on the line, let's go into Macedonia, let's get them on board. And Turkey's got to be brought up.

2:29:17 You know, you talk about online porn and Bobby Eden shows up in the chat room. She's like she can smell it. Hell yeah. All right, so he said a crisis is good for that. A crisis is good. Unfortunately, we have to create more Europe, more European integration. But the vote for the extreme right is often a vote against Europe. Yeah, but that's not a majority. That's not a majority in no country at all that is a majority for the thesis of the position of the far right. Shut up! No one's against us. There is still in most of our countries a broad majority, a broad majority pro-Europe. Even in France they voted down the Lisbon Treaty. But his job is to sit there and lie.

2:30:03 a real majority, political people, governments, prime ministers have to take their responsibilities. So even if you're not in the majority, you've got to do it anyway. That's literally what he's saying. Even if you don't have a majority of what the people want, your politicians have to be brave and do it anyway. To show courage. Courage. And to tell their people there is no future without Europe. Shut up, Schleif. There is no future without Europe. It's like the Germans have turned into the Borg. Here's the next question. Resistance is futile. Yes. Here's the next question which comes from an American. And I love the way he starts his question off. Hi, Herman.

CHAPTER 45 / 49 Discussion

Van Rompuy Math, European Investment Bank

Herman van Rompuy's shifting figures regarding the capitalization of the European Investment Bank (EIB) are highlighted. His claims about the amount of investment generated by a 10 billion euro capital increase varied by 20 billion euros in just three weeks, suggesting a lack of clarity in his economic projections.

herman van rompuy· eib· capital· investment· math

2:30:44 Hi Herman boy! Wouldn't it be great if our president had a... Hey Barack! Hey Barry! I asked you a question. Hey Herman! Hi Herman. When it comes to establishing your world view, what newspapers and magazines do you read to stay informed to understand the world? How do you think he answers this question? Ooh, this is a good one. Any specifically? I'm curious. Thanks. Sounds like he's wanting an endorsement for particular newspapers, but what kind of newspapers do you read? I try to read those when I understand. So I understand Dutch, French, I understand German and English. Unfortunately not Hungarian, not Italian or Spanish or Portuguese.

2:31:27 Yeah, he's not going to answer. I'm reading surveys, summaries and so on. I'm well informed. I'm well informed. I'm reading those magazines and those newspapers, I understand. That's the answer Sarah Palin should have given when she was saying that interview. Exactly. Exactly. I read English. Now here's something that was very interesting. He lost 20 billion euros in the span of three weeks. Did you know that? The ultimate goal of our policy stabilizing the Eurozone is growth and jobs. We are not stabilizing the Eurozone, we are not taking all those measures, difficult, unpopular measures, simply for the pleasure of taking them. This has a goal and that is growth and employment. That's my first answer. My second is that we are working on the longer term.

2:32:25 and we have to strengthen the supply side of our economy. Innovation, education, training, research and development, that's the highest priority, even in the midst of operations of fiscal consolidation. And then we are considering now, together with the European Commission, also how to promote investment, increasing the capital of the European Investment Bank. With 10 billion of increase of capital, you can create 160 billion of new investments. Now you remember that? Remember, like in episode 403, he did this trick? Yes, yeah, yeah, I vaguely remember it. But the math is wrong. The math is different now. So he says with 10 billion,

2:33:08 you can create 160 billion. Just three weeks ago. Today, without new capital, the bank would soon be forced to scale down the actions. Certainly, new capital means calling upon European governments and taxpayers. Yet there is a convincing case to be made. Shouldn't we therefore examine how the EIB can expand the role there where it is most needed? I think we should. With 10 billion increase in the capital, we could expand the bank's overall lending capacity to 60 billion of new loans in the next three years to support new investments up to 180 billion euros. So I guess one of those newspapers told him his math was off.

2:34:00 Yeah, one of those newspapers in one language that he speaks. He went from 180 billion to 160 billion. Yeah, he lost 20 billion. Or is that because the capitalization of the banks has changed? I wonder. No, it's just bull... It's because he's just throwing bullcrap numbers out. He doesn't even know what he's saying. Okay, well someone should ask him that. Yeah, well... I was hoping that was gonna be more entertaining. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Because the guys, you know, I'm surprised... I'd like to hear a poem or something. Uh, wow, I feel really bad now. Yeah, you should. Because you didn't get a poem. I mean, the guy speaks... He is a poet and you don't take advantage of his poetry skills to hear some of his great poems. He's not poesizing. He doesn't do that anymore. He doesn't poesize. Maybe I can make you happy with... Let's dig some up and read them. Have somebody read it. Do a dramatic reading. Maybe I can make you happy with this. You've got something to distraction come

CHAPTER 46 / 49 Discussion

Argo Movie, Iran Hostage Crisis PR

The trailer for the movie "Argo," starring Ben Affleck and produced by George Clooney, is discussed. The film depicts a CIA operation to rescue American hostages in Iran using a fake film crew, which is analyzed as a potential piece of modern propaganda regarding U.S.-Iran relations.

argo· ben affleck· george clooney· iran· hostages

2:35:03 The new movie! Oh, okay, what is it? Argo! Starring Ben Affleck. Bryan Cranston and John Goodman produced by... Clooney. George Clooney! Based on a true story. Actions of Iran have shocked the civilized world. Let's go! Spread everything! Our embassy has been seized and more than 60 American citizens continue to be held as hostages. If we're going to go, then we need to go now. What happened? Six of the hostages went out a back exit. Where are they? The Canadian ambassador's house. We've got revolutionary guards going door to door. These people die, they die badly. White House? Who wants the six of them out? What we like for this are bicycles. Deliver the six bikes, provide them with maps. Or you could just send in training wheels and meet them at the border with Gatorade. It's gonna take a miracle to get them out.

2:36:10 Here's the miracle. I got an idea. They're a Canadian film crew for a science fiction movie. I fly into Tehran. We all fly out together as a film crew. So this is like a new Wag the Dog, where they decide to go and get Iranian hostages, or I guess American hostages in Iran, and they make a movie. They pretend that they're making a movie about the hostages. And they completely prop it up, you know, the movie gets big press, everyone's talking about the movie. And it's to get the hostages out. And they say it's based on a true story. Which I don't remember that being the story. Certainly not with bicycles.

2:36:57 Well this is interesting, this should be fun to dissect. Once it's out, yeah. What are they trying to do is the question on my mind. I mean what is the message? The message, well I think, I believe it's a message saying all of this is bullcrap and PR. Yeah, no, we know that. Yeah, you know there's a They had that you talked about that wedding on the last show the wedding between the girl hiker and the other yeah the spy hiker and then the course the the Best man was the other hiker of course and you know who was the the guest was at the event Bill Clinton and the ambassador

CHAPTER 47 / 49 Discussion

Kim Jong-un, North Korea Amusement Park

North Korean media released footage of Kim Jong-un scolding staff at the Mangyongdae Fun Fair for its run-down condition. This rare display of anger is interpreted as a strategic move to project the leader as a benevolent ruler and a sign that North Korea may be preparing to open up for international tourism.

kim jong-un· north korea· pyongyang· amusement park· tourism

2:37:38 From Switzerland to Iran, who apparently is the front man for the American interests in Iran. I love it. This whole thing stinks. Do you have anything uplifting to leave on? Yeah, I got a kind of a funny bit. I got a, uh, our buddy, our new pal in North Korea. I don't know if he's a wine connoisseur, but he's now, I believe, and I'm going to predict this, put it in the red book, North Korea within the next couple of years is going to be open for business as a tourist attraction. And I think that what we witnessed with this story, which came out of the BBC, was actually a prelude, even though they never mentioned it once. But the only reason for this story to exist is because the new guy is going to open up North Korea and things are going to change.

2:38:26 The parent moved to present another side of North Korea's new leader. The country's media has shown Kim Jong-un scolding staff at an amusement park for neglecting their duties and failing to serve the people. Korean Central Television and other media say the incident occurred while Kim was touring the Manyondae Fun Fair in Pyongyang. Kim reportedly grew exasperated over the park's run-down appearance with grass growing from cracks in the pavement, paint peeling off the facilities and other signs of neglect. Kim said such shoddy conditions at the popular amusement site were insulting to the people. The young leader then ordered soldiers to be mobilized to clean up the park.

2:39:10 North Korean media often cover official tours of military units, factories and industrial sites. But it's rare for them to report on the leader's anger or his scolding of officials. Observers say the news is part of a strategy to project Kim as a benevolent ruler who cares for the people. Oh, DLNK. DLNK? Disneyland North Korea. Yeah, yeah. Probably. Exactly. Pick that gum up. No gum in this park. You know Disneyland they don't sell gum. Of course they don't have gum all over the place. We'll have none of that here. That's pretty uplifting. Yeah I think we're gonna do something to look forward to. I want to go to North Korea. Yeah right behind you. Yeah I'm sure. So on Sunday's show I will bring you the latest from Dr. Deep Throat. I've received the HPV script.

CHAPTER 48 / 49 Discussion

HPV Script, Medical Procedure Skepticism

A discussion on the "HPV script" used by doctors to encourage medical procedures notes that low-grade HPV often resolves on its own without intervention. Skepticism is expressed regarding the aggressive marketing of vaccines and screenings for a condition that rarely progresses to invasive cancer.

hpv· pap smear· cancer· medical text· skepticism

2:40:10 I'm selling it good good. Yeah, I'm selling the Bogus and by it keeps streaming in by the way people who have gone through the exact same procedure of Paps mere bullcrap yeah the scripted bullcrap And just the highlight of that is that let me see what is the here it is this is from the medical text Bottom line low-grade HPV resolves 60% of the time on its own without a shot and only progresses to invasive cancer 1% of the time that's what all this hoopla is about but of course cancer is now a virus apparently so that's where we're at hmm you got anything else

2:41:03 No, we have a gratuitous libertarian rant that we can play at the end of the show. Oh, it's always fun. It's a short one-minute thing. It's one of the guys that was at the convention who just had this, I thought was kind of a cute little commentary and that's about it I think. We gotta make sure to get people to get on board with the 7-9 thing and continue to vote for the slide whistle. Yes. And on Sunday we'll add up another batch of votes. And a reminder that the Jack Blood show is now on for- he's in Austin by the way. Jack is. He's live on No Agenda Stream 10am Eastern through noon. Of course 11.45 Eastern on Thursdays, because you know, I want that extra 15 minutes. In case I need to come in and play some Slide Whistle. You know, we do have our standards here. So make sure you check out Jack Blood. And... I'm tired.

CHAPTER 49 / 49 Discussion

Humanitarian Non-Intervention, Show Outro

The show concludes with a libertarian rant advocating for humanitarian non-intervention and the return of U.S. troops from around the world. The hosts sign off from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley, reminding listeners to participate in the slide whistle vote.

libertarian· non-intervention· military-industrial complex· austin· tejas

2:41:59 Was a lot that's your mold. How's your mold allergy? Well, it's been raining here We've had nothing but super rain, so I'm good that washed it out of the air, but miss Mickey has set up An appointment for me to get needles or something. I don't yeah I'll get you an appointment what you should do is get a Honeywell a one of those HEPA filters and put it in the house I'll get a HEPA filter get one of those coming to you from the capital of the drone star state That is Austin Tejas, I am your LGBTQC, lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, questioning, conflicted Adam Curry in the morning everybody. And standing in for Joe Biden here from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda. The most positive image of Americans is our personal generosity after natural disasters in other parts of the world.

2:42:57 We oppose humanitarian intervention by governments whose decisions are influenced by what President Eisenhower called a military-industrial complex that profits from finding crises and whose arrogance causes them to fancy themselves experts about another country and culture simply because they viewed a YouTube video. Of all humanitarians, the US government is the one whose past record of horrible unintended consequences and distorted intelligence has most earned it a time out in its own corner of the world. It's time for some humanitarian non-intervention. Bring all of our troops home from around the world to their families, treat their wounds, and stop creating new ones. Devorak.org slash N-A-W-R-A-K