Topic: Saudi Intelligence Agency

The hosts debate the extent of U.S. intelligence influence over Saudi Arabian policy and the viability of the global transition to green energy. They argue that a petroleum-based economy will remain dominant until battery technology significantly improves.

A BBC report describes a Saudi intelligence recruit who infiltrated Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) to intercept an explosive device. The technical definition of a "double agent" is debated, suggesting the media is misusing the term to describe what was actually a single agent working for the Saudis and the CIA.