It's The Boyfriend

00:00 Let's have a meeting! And from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody knows that tea is good for you. I'm John C. DuBois. Yeah, it is. Ask any Chinese person! Okay... You got a lot of them around there. Have you heard about your Chinese person in Oakland? She's Hmong. Oh she's not Chinese, she's Hmong? She's Hmong which is the Cambodian ethnic group. Oh okay I thought the whole

01:10 I thought the whole story... You want to hear this story? Actually, I clipped it for you. Yeah you should play it because I don't think anybody knows it No this is a part of the season of reveal It seems more like the season of corruption, but go ahead. It's been 48 hours since the FBI raided the home of Oakland Mayor Shang Tao along with at least two other locations and the mayor is nowhere to be seen We still don't know exactly what the FBI was looking for yesterday we heard the mayor side of the story sort of she did hire an attorney former prosecutor Tony Brass He suggested that there is no evidence that Tao was actually the target of the FBI investigation and she had no idea it was even happening. It was my assumption, that she would have been asked for information or documents or devices if they were needed and that she must have refused that if they got a search warrant so I'm quite surprised that the search warrant was the first sheet heard in this investigation The optics are bad

02:05 But the fact is that she is going to cooperate with the investigation and she would have done that in the first place. Brass also said Mayor Tao is working from a remote location because of the media circus around the raids, and that she will release a statement sometime next week. So what's great about this story is so she is among what you say Meng Tao, Chuck Tao? What does she Hmong. Hmong? What is the difference between Chinese and Mong? Well, the Mong are Cambodian which is anything but Chinese Wow It's a South Southeast Asian All that whole area it's not Chinese Do they eat sushi No I don't think so all right But what does beside the point of Mong

02:56 were kind of escaped from Cambodia during the period of Pol Pot and other situations. There's lots of Hmong in this... San Francisco Bay Area. In fact, if you go to a farmer's market two or three of the stalls are Hmong and they're great if you chat with them. They're great people I mean it's the Hmong are great people this has got to be a huge humiliation well to the Hmong population in the San Francisco Bay Area because this woman is apparently corrupt and everyone kind of suspected that wait but wait there's more! It's not her Yeah, this is the follow-up story. It's not her! It's the boyfriend!!

03:38 Yeah, you didn't know that did ya? Well I didn't actually I didn't hear this part of it But I can say this is that they've been trying to recall her Long before this investigation began because she's got some screwiness about her. Yeah including the not You know having some hard-on Regarding the ex chief of police and some other issues with the Police Department And and there's been a recall going on for at least six months and so there's yeah maybe the boyfriend has got something to do with it but she's suspicious. Well we have a former chief of staff who is blowing the whistle and they've got great video of her I guess during her

04:19 her election or I guess when she was chosen, elected as mayor and he's behind her leaning over like whispering in her ear like yeah yeah tell him this. Now it helps that he's black it just makes the whole thing fabulous. Rania Webb worked closely with and had access to Shantel that few people have for a year and four months Webb served as Tau's right-hand person, working as chief of staff when Tau was the District 4 council member. Webb says she volunteered and spent countless hours on Tau's mayoral campaign in 2022 She says she also led Tau's transition team after Tau won the election A lot of what is coming out now is the reason I resigned shortly thereafter winning the election She was more sad than surprised about FBI agents raiding Tau's home on Thursday

05:05 I wasn't surprised. I was like, finally! Finally the truth is coming out. Webb accuses Tao's boyfriend Andre Jones of being the mastermind and running pay-to-play schemes during Tao's campaign for mayor and after she won I had found out that Andre, her boyfriend was promising people jobs in our administration. Promising people appointments on different commissions and boards from out of the mouths of people that told me they were promised positions. They were promised board positions at the mouth of what they would always, Andre. You know that was who they'd say Andre promised me this." Webb claims Jones was controlling and calling the shots she says Tao went along with him. It's sad he is making her do things pushing her to do things that I don't believe she would do otherwise. Blame it on the boyfriend!

05:57 Blame it on the boyfriend. Oh man, blame it on the black guy! Yeah exactly! Oh brother... He looks pretty shady I gotta tell ya and they got good video of him like whispering in their ears yeah now blame it on the boyfriend that's great he is fantastic we are a little shake out eventually they've rated number of places I think his house may have been one of them but this has been going on for about a week or two So she's not to be found now. She's, she's in Cambodia. Yeah. She's in Cambodia. So we're kind of in the summer doldrums although you know right now it's the B teams most of New York

06:45 Elite, certainly the news elite. They're all off to the Hamptons You know we got July 4th weekend coming up We're only gonna really focus on one thing which is oh the debate So all that news is that debate The Debate Oh Trump and the Debate And so instead of doing what we used to do during these summer months, I remember quite well when i was a kid and I think you remember this as well. When we hit the summer it would be hot and we'd show pictures of people at the beach kids in the swimming pool You got some poor kids in the fire hydrant Exactly! Exactly! And they'll be like wow its hot and maybe there will be a joke

07:31 Who was it that said Sons of Beaches? Remember that whole summer when it was, was that Reagan or was that... One of the presidents called someone on an open mic a son-of-a-bee and then you know all the weather guys are going oh ho ho! It's gonna be sun on the beaches. I don't remember that at all. Okay. I'll have to look at that one up so instead They're so lazy now, we got COP 29 coming up in November in Baku. So instead of just showing the fun little swimming pool, the beaches... Everyone having a good time. It's hot! That's right it's hot! The old frying an egg on the pavement in New York I mean this is what we used to do in the summer No

08:16 Now it's extreme heat climate change! Breaking overnight, Amtrak says two train lines between Newark New Jersey and New York City are cancelled until further notice due to an equipment failure. That will surely take a toll on todays commute during the extreme heat. Service has been restored along the rest of the Northeast corridor after yesterday power failure which shut down service. Meanwhile Metro operators in the Washington DC area had to slow down their trains, concern the extreme heat would expand the rails and no relief today. Highs could hit 96 in parts of the Northeast and we're expecting mostly 90 degree readings across the Midwest. Parts of the upper Midwest are dealing with extreme flooding including Minnesota and more storms are expected today. We'll check your forecast in just a few moments. It's all extreme it's so hot even though

09:05 It's three weeks later than normally these hot temperatures come in. We can still make it sound like there is something, a crisis going on. Ginger Strathaire is off on the dangerous temperature and air quality alerts in parts of the country. Ginger good morning Hey good morning here in New York City we had our first official 90 of the season while that was about 3 1⁄2 Weeks behind average. Look at this shot from New York City now that we've broken the seal of 90 degrees from WABC, you can see from the helicopter there it's hazy hot and humid we should stay above 90 throughout the weekend which would be then our first official heat wave I mean it's later than usual but its a heat wave It's our first ninety we've unsealed it oh no! But you know Cali... We've topped all this in California Oh ya have?

09:55 Yeah, well I mean right now it's cold out of course you know that is typical. But no we decided to pass a law! You got a law? What kind of law did you get? Play the clip, California Law. Hold on a second. California law! And a new rule is in effect in California protecting people who work indoors from dangerous heat and Piers Alejandro Barunda has more More than 1 million people in California work jobs indoors that expose them to the kind of heat that can make people sick Tim Shaddix is the legal director at the Warehouse Worker Resource Center in Southern California. In the states, thousands of warehouses... In the worst places we've seen you know in the summer those workplaces are kind of they're like a tin can baking in the sun Employers will now have to provide water and cool down spaces for employees when it's above 82 degrees past 87 they'll have to find ways to cool workspaces with tools like fans

10:51 They have to do this at 82 degrees? Do you realize that people go to Hawaii because it's 82 degrees all the time there. Yeah, yeah it's beautiful but now if its 82 degrees which is like the perfect temperature You know if you want to just enjoy your life No now it's like a disaster and then if it's 87 We don't know what we're gonna do, son. Employers will now have to provide water and cool down spaces for employees when it's above 82 degrees. Past 87 they'll have to find ways to cool workspaces with tools like fans or air conditioning or adjust work requirements

11:31 What did she say at the end? Fans, air conditioning... Or just work requirements. In other words it's slow down! It's like a union slowdown. Slow down!! Got her boots on the ground from one of our producers he says you know I this is Josh I was listening to 1670 in the New York heatwave as someone who has worked outside for 14 years in southern Arizona have little boots on the ground Arizona now that's hot. Here we go, when this heat dome passed through it was toasty sure but local news and radio blasted out excessive heat warnings and dangerous heat wave what was the high in Tucson on those days? 102

12:15 I've lived in Tucson since 2007, ridden motorcycles year-round. Sure it's warm but i know for a fact the first time I heard an excessive heat warning... It was issued when we were going to hit 118! The last few years still working outside, I've noticed excessive heat warnings being issued over 110. Always thought to myself that's strange! That seems lower than it used to be but i could never remember at what point they issued the heat warnings well since it was registered in my mind 110 when they issued the 102 excessive heat warning a couple of weeks ago I couldn't believe it that's a nice day in the middle of summer for Tucson so yes I agree everybody's noticing this

13:00 But so it's a scam. This is ridiculous, the news media is off the rails. Well we need to keep our eye on this because this is where they're gonna get us with this nonsense and we're laughing at but we can't just laugh about it because it's killing the newcomers! Part of the US and Mexico are in the grip of a searing heat wave with the Northeast United States seeing record high temperatures on the southern border with Mexico and arid climate already means hot weather weather, but now that heat has turned deadly for migrants attempting to cross the border. Migrants? No not even illegal migrants just migrants just migrants yeah it's killing the newcomers they're dying out there of heat exhaustion and at the United Nations they have a survey which shows something that I don't think anybody believes. The recent heat waves sweeping across Europe Asia and now the eastern half of the US are no surprise to climate scientists and UN officials

13:54 off the highway to climate hell. This week's heat dome is centered over Maine and New Brunswick, Canada so that's where the most intense departure from average is going to occur The record temperatures across Asia Europe in the Middle East have reportedly caused hundreds of deaths including many Muslim pilgrims attending the Hajj at the Grand Mosque in Mecca Saudi state TV reported temperatures hitting nearly 52 degrees Celsius. What we concluded from this study is that human-induced warming from Burning fossil fuels made the five day maximum temperature event about 1.4 degrees hotter than it used to be in the pre-industrial period A new UN report surveyed more than 75,000 people across 77 countries 80% or 4 out of 5 people globally want their governments to take stronger actions to tackle the climate crisis Over half of people said they think about the climate crisis

14:54 either daily or weekly, and two-thirds say that they incorporate decisions around their lives. Where they live? Where they work? What they buy by taking into account the climate crisis." Yeah do they take into account the climate crisis or did they take into account the weather I'm gonna think it's the weather oh look at this cute top hmm let me think that would be perfect for the climate crisis this summer This is so ridiculous. You know the other thing is about these deaths at the Hajj, I would like to do a... There's always people dying there! And they're usually from out of town because the locals in the Middle East... They're from out of town? What you what are you from around here?!

15:40 They're not from around there. The big Muslim country in the world is Indonesia and there's other countries that have a lot of Muslims, they go to Hajj once in their life and then they stay out... They've never been to the Middle East so you don't even go outside between I think it's like 1130 and 4. And it's unbelievable. They had a lot of reports on the BBC when I was still over there, back in Texas obviously when I was still over there and it was about these people who would die and they had horrible stories like some grandma 72 called with her last dying breath called her daughter as she dies on the phone. What most of them were talking about is that they had illegal

16:27 tour operators who weren't officially sanctioned to bring people over to the Hajj. You know, it's like some people scamming them and not giving them water and shelter... Wow! Yeah yeah they're basically murderers so I just want to stick with the climate crisis here Joy Reid had an interesting twist on on the money scamming being done off of this. We begin tonight with the lucrative politics of climate collapse and the greed that is literally letting our country burn Okay, so instead of people ripping us off for this nonsense she's just twisted it around I think that's what we call gaslighting

17:17 Today millions of Americans from Iowa to Maine are suffering through heat warnings, watches or advisories. Hold on stop! She's correct we're only suffering through the warnings not the actual heat That is exactly what I noticed they're suffering from heat warnings and advisories i am suffering from that yes today millions of americans from Iowa to Maine are suffering through heat warnings watches or advisories Cities across half of the country like Chicago, St. Louis Indianapolis Detroit Philly and now New York are hitting temperatures exceeding 90 degrees Fahrenheit. Oh no! It feels closer to 100. This this feels like has got to stop

18:01 I mean this feels like... That's a good point. That has become a common occurrence, it feels like. And it's like do you really know the difference between 92 and 100? It feel- and why does it feels like is that because of the wet bulb? Is that what we're back to now? Feels like? That's what I'm guessing. Are hitting temperatures exceeding 90 degrees Fahrenheit though it feels closer to 100 Many of these cities could experience heat indexes hitting 105 degrees. Heat index is mind you, heat indexes that's not the temperature it's the heat index. 105 degrees by Sunday. These increasingly oppressive hot days aren't a coincidence they are they are the predictable impact of the climate crisis. Oops she flubbed that one too which is interesting. These increasingly oppressive hot days aren't a coincidence

18:56 They aren't, they are the predictable impact of a climate crisis. And they're not just an inconvenience they're also killing us at higher rates. Heat related deaths among older Americans have increased 54% in recent decades In Florida changing weather patterns are bombarding the southern tip of the state with a seemingly never-ending series of storms that have left whole streets flooded cars crippled and two people dead California more than 20 fires sparked across the state since Saturday burning over 20,000 acres. But we have 300 million people in this country! We had two people dead? Yeah yeah but you know hey it could have been you and listen to the fires! In California more than twenty fires were sparked across the state since Saturday burning over 20,000 acres

19:46 These aren't just climate stories. They're actually economic stories because people are getting paid good money to ignore them. Do we get any money for ignoring it? Well, I think she's talking about us. These podcasters... good money! Yeah but we're not getting any- We're not getting good money to say the least No kidding well there's part two to this Not only have big donors bought themselves some politicians They got some podcasters in their pocket too But they've also bought themselves a federal judiciary that cares more about rich corporations and wealthy donors than they do about your health and well being

20:24 The Supreme Court is the most pro-oligarch of all time. Pro oligarch of all? This is some good script writing, I mean she's really nailing it with the heat index and the feels like and you know the old pro oligarch...I guess she's talking about the Supreme Court we do have an interesting twist although she won't mention it by name The six Leonard Leo justices Barrett Kavanaugh Gorsuch Alito Roberts and Thomas have the most, I repeat THE MOST pro-big business voting records in the history of the court. Is that true? Can we verify that they are... I don't think you can verify that! The most pro-business... well oligarchs This is again this is all about to shove her on deference which she's coming up shortly That's right listen listen They've ruled that corporations ARE people That the Environmental Protection Agency cannot protect you from pollution and they're ready to go even further Stop it

21:21 At least three of those justices weren't involved in the corporations are people decision. Yeah, they were on their own. It predates Gorsuch, it predates Amy, it predates the other one... Good catch? So she's a liar! Nooo Stop! There's gambling. Our mental protection agency cannot protect you from pollution and they're ready to go even further by stifling the regulatory power of all federal agencies. Stifling the power, I can't wait for Chevron deference to come up that's gonna be it's gonna be so cool. The freak out though is weird why why is she or anybody else

22:06 defending the bureaucratic state. Is it because possibly that really is the deep state and this is where they get their information from, and this isn't you know they've all got their buddies on the inside? I mean whenever Veritas no what his name O'Keefe Whenever O'Keefe gets someone, which is usually some poor gay guy It's always someone from inside the admin you know inside these agencies Yeah So you've got to think that that's probably where? The news media gets everything from and the CIA is also an agency FBI as an agency all these agencies are

22:50 Well, I'm not so sure about the CIA and FBI. But EPA Department of Education, I mean Department of Homeland Security these are all on the block potentially? Well yeah this would be a CIA and FBI wouldn't it'd be they're not doing policy so much as secret police work. Yeah brown shirt stuff but it's like This freak out still and I will repeat this complaint of mine, which is that we never had this Chevron deference before 1984. And we had plenty of these agencies. I was one in one in one of them

23:31 And they got along just fine, famously. They didn't need any special help and then they got the special help and it was ironic because it was when the EPA was pulled back with their reins were there were pulled in by the Reagan administration to do less regulating that's when they get... When the suit happened which is kind of beyond ironic and then they realized that they could make hay with this Once the Democrats got in power, then they went in the other direction and nobody could do anything about it. But before 1984 there was not an issue why is that now suddenly an issue? Well NPR is on...is starting to wise up to a couple of things mainly the scam that is the carbon offsets

24:21 Which, I mean you can buy this on your plane ticket when you rent cars. There's all kinds of different places- Whoa! Why don't you add a 2% or 5% and save the earth? Ehhh... If you've ever wondered if that's a scam people who get- Oops If you ever wonder if that's a scam, listen to NPR. First off what really is a carbon offset? I spoke to Danny Cullenward at UPenn about this he says an offset is basically a promise It's a promise that somebody else did something good somewhere else that resulted in a climate benefit

24:56 It could be a promise that someone protected a forest that would have been cut down or a promise that someone made a wind farm and switched from fossil fuels. The key promise being your money is actually reducing or removing planet heating pollution like that carbon dioxide pollution from your flight or your car rental, but Barbara Haya at UC Berkeley says there's a problem most offsets don't represent what they claim There are two big ways many offsets can be false promises. First, many offset projects overestimate their impact for example many offset projects that claim they're saving forests from deforestation research finds many are getting money for forests that don't actually need protection so then is there any actual accountability if a carbon offset company makes a climate claim that's false? Is there a way for consumers

25:52 to take action or is there enforcement here? In California, there is a bill in the state assembly right now. All those promises of climate benefits that carbon offset companies make this bill would make those claims legally enforceable so there's still time to get in I think we didn't isn't this where the whole not for humanity came from. This is not where the whole idea came Yes, I think there was one of them And that was like anything we did that over a decade ago let me check on mine because if you remember there was a Vending machines at airports they all disappeared that were selling carbon offsets so when you took your flight punch into how many miles are going and

26:37 You get a little coupon that said you thank you, you saved the earth. 2017 I think is when we first got that jingling so we were probably talking about it in 2016 And the whole idea was you could have no agenda producers take a nap because it would be less carbon dioxide exuded and that would be a carbon offset. So, it seems like there's no regulation. It's a bonanza to free for all let's listen to some more from NPR. That feels like a big problem if your money isn't actually reducing as much climate pollution is the offset claims what's the other issue?

27:14 something called permanence. Offsets are supposed to reduce or remove carbon dioxide pollution, right? The carbon dioxide some carbon dioxide stays in the atmosphere hundreds of years. Some CO2 sticks around even longer thousands of years. Here's the thing. Wait some co2 sticks around for thousands of years what is this magical dust By the way, I think the troll room is right. It must have been much earlier than 2017 it must it must have been I think it was over 10 years ago Oh no, I think you're right let's go back to this carbon dioxide that hangs around for a thousand years. Some CO2 sticks around even longer, thousands of years! Thousands? How do they know and is there still Jesus carbon dioxide hanging around?! Here's the thing the vast majority of carbon offsets only promise to remove or store co2 emissions for 40 years or less. Cullen Ward says

28:13 40-year promise of reducing emissions does not compare to a 300 year or several thousand year impact of carbon dioxide. So if a lot of these are false promises, is the government doing anything to address these issues with offsets consumers? I just love the breathiness of these two. John, is there really anything that we can do about these offsets? Well, I don't know Adam... It's thousands and thousands of them. So if a lot of these are false promises is the government doing anything to address these issues with offset consumers and companies are buying? Late last month the Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced new principles for high quality- Wait! Janet Yellen?!

29:01 Janet Yellen announced something? Oh yeah, she's a climatologist. You didn't know that? Consumers and companies are buying... Late last month the Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced new principles for high quality carbon offsets. Ah there we go! We had the low quality carbon offsets now we're gonna have a high quality carbon. We're number one foam finger number one for our offsets High-quality that is offsets that actually reduce or remove climate pollution but Climate pollution even these new principles have gaps for example The principles do not identify how long offsets have to keep carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere No number also, these are just principles researchers worry without enforcement

29:47 these voluntary principles might or might not be followed. A Treasury spokesperson said, though the principles released last month are voluntary we believe they can help guide efforts to address the challenges." Okay I finally figured it out it's the exit strategy to end all exit strategies ready? Okay I'm all ears! How much carbon, because we can't say carbon dioxide. How much carbon do you think is caused by every episode of the NO Agenda show? Taking into account the work that you and I do, the seven-eight hundred thousand people who listen, the computers, the phones they're using... This has got to be quite a lot of carbon don't you think?

30:32 I have no idea. Let's put a number on it. Theoretically, yes in fact they have a clip coming up which makes it even worse whatever the number is so well whatever it is I think we should sell carbon offsets to stop us from podcasting so think about We have a counterintuitive. No, it's fantastic if we need to sell the carbon offsets so that we don't waste all of this energy and carbon is being just sloshed into the air and in the carbon that we are exhaling right now will be around for thousands of years. It's high quality carbon that we are getting rid off and people could say that OK?

31:25 All right, what's your clip? What you got? Well these clips are about AI and how it's affecting the climate and ruining everything. The rise of artificial intelligence is requiring faster and bigger computations for even simple tests than for say a Google search It's adding to the demand for more internet data centers The places that house all those servers that keep the Internet running But as Ali Rogin reports, there's a price to pay for that. Demand for data centers is growing rapidly but these facilities come at a big environmental cost especially for the communities that host them. Northern Virginia is the largest data center hub in the world. The area is responsible for processing nearly 70% of global digital traffic it's a rate that local officials say is unsustainable

32:12 Sachi Kitajima-Molke is a science journalist and writer for the climate focused news outlet, Gris. Sachi thank you so much for joining us first of all tell us a little bit more about what a data center is and why do we need so many of them? Why do we need so many data centers?! Remember when we use the internet upload photos to the cloud send emails watch a video all that data and digital information needs a home and it lives in these huge facilities called data centers which hold tens of thousands servers each and they process all that digital information for us Something like 70% of the world's digital information is processed by a cluster of data centers in Virginia alone, and there are over 5,000 facilities in the US.

32:51 And what are the environmental impacts of having some of these data centers in your backyard? So to process all that information, they need two things. The first is electricity, of course, to physically crunch and process all that gigabyte going on. Oh! All that gigabyte going on... Huck towel! Yeah this is our super- This is the science and technology writer We just needed talk like that from now on Hey man They're processing all that gigabytes I got a lot of gigabytes going on How about you John I got gigabyte going on. Wait, to be honest about it...I have terabyte going on. Oh! Remember it's not the size He's got terabytes Alright alright this is good So we already know that they're talking to an idiot

33:38 So we're going to get good material out of this person. I'm loving it already! Information they need, two things the first is electricity of course physically crunch and process all that gigabyte... Physically crunch? It's a physically crunch there's actually a cruncher... I mean i've actually missed that until now yeah physically physically crunching all that gigabyte... There are like grinders at these data centers big giant rocks that roll around pulled by oxen just to remind everybody Elitist Voices of America. This is NPR. or PBS.

34:38 The average AI application uses six times the amount of electricity, so they run a lot hotter. And that scales exponentially. They just need more water to cool down." Wait wait wait! She said that scales exponentially? That's kind of a contradiction that she is saying there... So it gets really hot, need a lot of water that scales exponentially? I think she's just using words. Okay, right. Use even more the average AI application uses six times the amount of electricity so they run a lot hotter and that is scales exponentially they just need more water to cool down And how do these data centers in the United States and around the world... Wait stop! Water to pull down To cool down, to cool down Oh to cool down okay But you know

35:23 I find it, by the way... The one overlooked facet to this is that I find interesting is that 70% of all the data centers are in in and around China. So you run a lot hotter, and that scales exponentially they just need more water to cool down. And how do these data centers in the United States and around the world affect global efforts to decarbonize? It's tricky because right now we are building out green energy solutions at a great scale it's happening really fast but it might not be happening fast enough currently Currently a lot of the grid is still running on fossil fuels and even plans in Virginia to shut down coal firing plants may not go through because these data centers need so much energy that grid operators need to fire those coal plants back up or just keep them running in order to meet all that demand.

36:11 So in one of the talking points of these data center reform coalitions I've spoken to is that it's a step backwards from clean energy goals and kind of almost up a trail of some of the promises certain states have made to, you know get off of carbon. Oh OK. Get off of carbon! She says cold coal firing isn't it called? Cold. I'm sorry. Cold coal fired coal fired. Well she's not cool. She's obviously an income poop Well, she's on her way. Exit strategy become tech journalists at PBS Hi I'm Adam it's John we're crunching the gigabytes for you right here on PBS Okay what clip are we on? We're on number three this is Shorty need to set it up this shorty yes no this is shorty for a reason you'll hear it when you when you hear it and many of these data centers are located in densely populated residential areas What's it like to live near one

37:09 Yeah, you know they're being built near schools and neighborhoods. Protected nature parks in Virginia in particular and one big impact is that they're really loud They hum and they bring all this noise pollution to the area That's bullcrap she's confusing it with Bitcoin miners I don't know what she's talking about Data centers are completely quiet than ones that these guys use Oh no! Noise pollution Adam Noise pollution from the giant data centers because its buzzing That's total horse crap. It's the crypto mining guys who have no cooling, they just have an open roof and they point all the fans up towards the roof Yeah those are noisy but not this stuff No I don't believe it Wow okay They're not noisy...I've actually visited May East once which is one of them I built an exchange in Amsterdam They don't make noise at all On the outside they don't

38:06 They can get pretty noisy inside. Yeah, because of all the fans but yeah all the internal fans are just blowing on the CPU's yeah sure I have a couple computers that make a lot of racket. But then that noise pollution outside? I was at May East when they had that flooding do you remember that I do remember that. That must have been 95 or 96? It was a mess! I was taken to May East by some very cynical guy, he's showing me around and he says... And then as we leave there is like the exit from there is you drive out through just like a parking lot

38:43 underground parking lot basically. So he drives and says look above us as we're driving I see those things, those are the main cables you if you had a truck that's too big to tear him apart and bring down the whole internet everything it was pointed out what a flaky operation it was. What so we should probably explain The MAE stands for Metropolitan Area Exchange and we had, that was the big one on the East Coast. We had the Mae West of course on the West Coast. We have the AMS 6, the Amsterdam, we still have these

39:19 Yeah, they're not as important as they once were. No no but no they're not all the traffic all the internet traffic used to go through all these things because you had a hundred different networks and I think we had to pay carriage too to get them to work for us. We had peering feeds. Once peering happened that was the end of it well peering was great for awhile but then you know then it all got consolidated and became like what do we have now AT&T Comcast. Comcast, yeah and there's maybe one... How about MCI? Are those guys still around? I don't think so! Alright onward All that concrete also means a huge increase in stormwater runoff because that rain can no longer soak into the ground it all has to go somewhere What?! The concrete

40:10 And so the amount of electricity also could be more than the grid may be able to handle. So when there's an outage, there's kind of a question of who gets the power residents or data centers? We're talking to you now via Skype we're using a lot of data to do it. A lot of data on Skype! We are talking to you now on Skype There is a lot of data involved What?! Are you nuts!? How much gigabyte are we crunching on Skype right now Okay, I hope there's a good comeback in this final. Well no! This is ridiculous this entire report are classic PBS reporters they're clueless As we increasingly rely on this type of cloud computing to do so many things We use apps we use we do virtual meetings that kind of thing Is there any way that these data centers can continue to expand? Wait a minute...I just got to hear that again

41:03 We use apps. I just have to soak in the nonsense, you know? Meanwhile we have the Twit network going out of business and this is what we're left with? It's sad. As we increasingly rely on this type of cloud computing to do so many things, we use apps, we use virtual meetings that kind of thing is there any way that these data centers can continue to expand? Continue to grow and support all this usage but do so in a more environmentally friendly way? Nuclear! You know it is possible to build cooling systems that use less water but we don't really see those built out at scale yet

41:41 you could power them with green energy, but again right now we have a grid that's kind of stuck on fossil fuels and we're slowly making the transition to green energy but maybe not fast enough to meet all this demand. First before we can really know what we need to do next we just need more transparency from the industry which scientists and activists both told me is pretty secretive Google is saying it's a leader in sustainable data centers, and they only began releasing their water usage data a couple of years ago after a lawsuit. And to that transparency point I want to play for you a soundbite from an environmental activist in Northern Virginia as we've said where so many of these data centers are located One of the big things that concerns me is that some of these data center companies are claiming to be holding federal or Department of Defense

42:27 servers, and therefore their critical infrastructure and cannot be allowed to go down. And so there's this question of who gets the water in a trout situation? And are they going to leverage that kind of argument of national security to potentially say they get the water first? Are there any safeguards that exist to make sure that these companies are being honest about the types of companies that they're supporting with their servers and what the effect on the environment is? We're kind of trusting companies to be transparent and do the right thing. A lot of companies like to tout sustainability goals, but truthfully we're trying to get laws through in Virginia right now a couple of bills were introduced in Virginia and other states

43:09 But they're not getting a lot of traction until we have that research we need. And so right now, Virginia is conducting a data center impact study and the results of that will come out later this year hopefully I mean We're just seeing a lot of action in Virginia in particular Yeah This there's something going on with Virginia and that's what died What why they put these idiots on this report because really the data centers Utah You know, there's some pretty big ones in Texas. There is a lot being built here I don't understand this whole report focus on Virginia There is something else happening with data centers in Virginia I have to agree because it's weird the way they're doing their reporting. Now, I just want to stay on this for a moment because... Is that the end of it? Yeah that's your five. Okay There was an interview with President Trump and this was actually quite-I couldn't even watch the whole thing It was the all in crew which is David Cacks Oh with Jkal! Well so Jkal

44:12 put on a suit and tie, and like 1970s Buggles glasses. I by the way can i make one quick comment about that outfit he was wearing? Yeah please! Because you know him, I know we both run into him over the years... What a joke! Yes what a joke. He usually wears a turtleneck but here he's wearing- And I was trying to figure out why is he wearing this outfit because Because it doesn't look like anything he's ever worn before. He showed up on the Jesse Waters show... About to promote the interview? to promote the interview and Waters called him J-Cal, and he calls himself J-Cal. I don't know who cares what's a stupid nickname because he's like J-Lo get it? That makes it even funnier. Yeah that's exactly why he's using this moniker. And so he's wearing this suit and this pink tie and is like uh...I'm thinking why is he wearing his outfit and then I realize who it is! It's that guy that's on Shark Tank

45:12 The well-dressed guy shows up a lot on different Fox shows. I can't remember his name off the top of my head. Mr Wonderful? That's the guy? Who is Mr. Wonderful He is the guy who was so sharply dressed on... They're all in suits His name, it's somebody that... O'Leary? Larry! Yeah he's Mr. Wonderful Well he always dressed to the tens He's wearing a cufflinks, he's wearing an expensive suit and has got that exact same look That's what Callie Candace is copying He's look he sees well this guy is getting a lot of attention. Maybe if I dress like that cuz Calicanis is a copycat

45:53 Yes! We've known him since the days of Silicon Alley when he was writing a rag. He was literally a rag writer. He tried to do the producer stuff that we did once and one of his, he started potty- he took uh... he talked Leo into using this week in what startups No no he stole it from Leo Well I'm not, I don't think so Oh okay well you would know Leo gave him permission Oh Leo Oh Leo. Because he thought that Calicas was gonna, you know... He didn't think he was going to be a competitor and just yeah sure go ahead and use it no okay? He doesn't steal stuff. He's a copycat but he's not a thief

46:34 And so he took that, gave him permission. So yeah okay so he ran out with a whole series of this weekend. But they failed anyway and now this thing here looks like it's semi-successful. Well he's got David Sachs on and Chamath whatever you know Chamath what's the guy? Yeah he's got a good team. He put together a good team then now he's dressing up like O'Leary When I was living in LA remember Christina moved out there for a little bit and she lived in LA You may not remember But she did. And, you know, she was basically looking for it was a weird period and I was going through divorce because it was messy. It was a messy, messy time that she was out there and she was living with a bunch of weirdos. And I was trying to keep my eye on her and I was trying to get her gig. And then I was on Calacanis's show which what was like? It wasn't this week in startups

47:26 It was something, maybe it was I don't remember. Then he had his kind of little company there and I took Christina in and he said oh yeah no come back and so she did an interview she interviewed for a job there and she came back and said i'm never gonna work for that creep dad that guy's weird my daughter wouldn't even work for him So there's other people that went through that, you know. Molly would for a while. Molly was even everybody. He is an excellent sales guy and he knows how to do it.

48:02 He's really good. Yeah, and so he's done well for himself And I you know even though he doesn't talk like this as much I noticed this when he was on but his whole thing that what he did well is he? yeah He kind of got into that Y Combinator group and invested in some things early. And that's how he got into Uber early, and then he invested in Tesla early through his contacts at Sequoia. I think we have Rudolph who dropped him. Oh, Rudolf! I heard from Rudolph. Rudolph is the CEO now. He's the name dropper. Yes. Rudolph is the South African cabal, the other part... The part of Elon that actually does stuff behind the scenes

48:47 And, you know... and so he's Elon's best friend. I remember he was at the takeover of Twitter and he was like, oh maybe I should be the CEO! Yeah goodbye I haven't forgotten. Remember he was kind of vying to be the CEO? Yeah, he was pushing to be CEO on Twitter. Anyway... Well, but you know, he is a good sales guy but he's not perfect so he can't pull everything off But this idea wearing this suit and tie that he has got... Let's just... I just shake him and he has got different kinda haircut those glasses you talked about He looks completely slicked back You know, it's like he's posing! He's a poser! He kinda looks like a 70s Studio 54 Coke dealer

49:29 Don't you think? The way he looks now. Yeah, maybe it might be an interesting... Anyway yeah it's just and who knows I don't know what do you what's the up to we don't know well first let me just say but he did get on waters and waters lapped it up lap-lap-lap. I want to say the world would be a lot less colorful without Jason I mean it, i'm happy he's in our world. I sincerely mean that we rag on him but of course that is what we do It would be a lot less colorful without Jason anyway so there only... So im watching this interview and Jason is trying to

50:07 You know trying to do you know tough questions, which Trump is not having at all He was not have it I mean I listen to this on the plane and I fell asleep so after like 25 30 minutes of an hour and a half I couldn't even listen to it But I did listen to this one thing And it was kind of like oh because David Sachs is the dangerous guy here What is what does that deal with his David Sachs? Where's he from cuz that's that's why Trump is on this show David Sachs. What is his deal? He's a bundler for sure. Yeah, he's an entrepreneur...a bundler! There you go, bundler. He is a bundler. He knows how to put together a party that brings in millions of dollars for some candidate

50:49 He's in Palin. He is also I guess a VC in some ways, but I think his skill as being he's one of those guys Yeah You'll get you'll become David Sachs will be into Trump administration Yes As the ambassador to France or England or something like that because all these VCs want to be ambassadors yeah But maybe he'll get something close, but we'll see he might do policy so So I guess David Sachs Was part of the big CEO get-together, maybe was at his house. And they told Trump about this little two word thing a little thing called AI We have a phenomena coming up right now and I was talking about it the other day to David and that's AI A little thing simple too little simple letters but its big

51:36 And I realized the other day, more than anything when we were at David's house and talking to a lot of geniuses from Silicon Valley and other places. They need electricity at levels that nobody's ever experienced before to have, to be successful. To be a leader in AI the amount of electricity is like double what we have right now and even triple what we have right now they are it's incredible how much they need to be the leader and we're gonna have to be able to do that A windmill turning with its blade knocking out the birds and everything else is not going to be able to make us competitive. You'll have China What about nuclear, Mr President? Yeah So let me just give you a statistic on this China's building So then they go on He actually he knows the problems And even said France those guys are smart They did they got modular They can do all the same thing Not like we're idiots Everything's different so he was good

52:33 But he's being psyoped in this AI thing. And you and I have been talking, we don't talk much outside the show but after the show as I'm post-producing and we're compressing everything getting it all done, we'll chat a little bit. We've been talking about what is it? What is the trigger that is gonna take this nonsense down, this AI? Right yeah, we did discuss this in the last Post Mortem. Yes Post Mortem And I think I may have found one and it comes along because you said if we could figure out what the real downfall was of the dot, what popped the dot com bubble. We may be able to figure out what pops the um uh what pops the AI bubble and i think i may have found it. Well did you figure out what popped the dot? Because I think back on it and I'm thinking what the hell popped a .com well

53:27 Allow me to... I was in the Netherlands end of 99, 2000 and it was World Online. World Online was going to be the biggest IPO run by a lady called Nina Brink and I know Nina Brink because Ron Bloom and I tried to get our initial financing from Nina Brink Because we were running all over the world. Before we had the venture capital money, we're trying to figure where could we raise money from? And of course I had my contacts in Holland and somehow we run into Nina Brink

54:06 And she's been involved. I mean, her whole thing is all we'll do a big announcement with an LOI will have an LOI. She's a Miss LOI which is a letter of intent which is completely meaningless at the end of the day she didn't actually want to invest you wanted to give us a subordinated loan like okay no so it was a big run around and but she has been very successful in a whole bunch of other businesses And now she was going to set up this whole world online thing. She had bought France Telecom and all these different internet providers, and it was going to be the global online internet provider. Everybody had money in the IPO. I have friends and family! Oh man, I'm the friends and family! It's great!" She discloses one day before the IPO that she actually sold all of her stock before the IPO

55:00 And the IPO tanked and after that, as far as I know everything in public markets went just went to crap and the whole thing fell apart. I can't say for sure that the World Online failed IPO was really the trigger but if i find it coincidental That she pops up in the news As I'm traveling back from The Netherlands I'm at the airport and the financial newspaper, the Financielle Dachblad has this whole story about Renovaro Biosciences. In fact Hindenburg Research is after them you know Hindenburg Research right? Oh yeah! These are the short sellers here's their headline Renovaro Biosciences a worthless AI shell game with a murderous magician past i mean and this has Nina Brink who's now Nina Storms Dr. Nina Storms no less

55:55 So she was, somehow she bought this. She's involved in this biosciences company which is set up by this guy who had you know he's one of the most important scientists in the world but it turns out that he killed one or had one of his former partners shot to death and then oh yeah the whole thing is a mess but what she was going to do was gonna bring in this company and put it together with this Renovaro Biosciences, and they took it public. And she brought in this company called GeniCube which is literally nothing. GeniCube, g-e-n-i-c-u-b-e Which is kind of interesting because you know whenever you put cube in it sounds so scientific

56:41 And this thing is coming, it's publicly listed. This thing is coming apart at the seams and there are all kinds of investigations and because she brought in the AI nonsense I mean really gobbledygook of flowery language which really means nothing absolutely nothing Even though its not a direct trigger I think that this is it I think whenever Nina Brink shows up, it's time to bail. Well then why don't you go short NVIDIA and see what happens? Good luck! Uh...I don't know. I'm not so sure i want to do that but um but now are these things no well you know we have in our audience

57:37 kind of, I would say armchair analysts. Yes we do who know this stuff. Many of these ideas are quite good they're just not polished but we have at least 10 people in our audience that can that have theories i bet if we ask for them that can provide us with theories as to why the dot-com collapse took place Now, I remember a previous collapse and this is the more obscure and I can't remember the name of the IPO that failed. And it collapsed entire industry of console games during the Atari era. Console games? Yeah there was a big boom in games that were for these game consoles not to you know this all pre-Nintendo.

58:24 is when you had the Atari and a bunch of these other, Pong was a player back in the day. And there was a bunch of these games that came out for the Atari mostly game consoles all blocky it was terrible but there was one company... ColecoVision! That was an example yeah and there were a bunch of these companies then there were these IPOs that we're starting to develop and they were coming out with different game companies and one game company failed And it brought the whole industry down. And it was the end of it, in fact there wasn't anything after that except Nintendo kind of came out of the ashes and took over the place and then Sony came in later. Then we had other things, Sega and things like that. It was a very interesting phenomenon to watch transition from one to another but a collapse took place in the meantime. That collapse was triggered by a fail

59:18 A failed IPO that was triggered by something. Again, it's one of these things that the trigger mechanism may be elusive but when it happens is noticeable and it goes fast. Yeah, very slowly and then fast all of a sudden I wonder what that was? Because yeah Nintendo NES came out they...was it Sega? Well, Sega came up with NES and they hung in there for most of the second round of games. And Sega just quit on its own and just decided out of the blue to stop doing it after the Dreamcast which is a killer machine but that whole market is as studying itself but to study these other phenomena's and AI thing

1:00:13 It will happen because there's no way that this is going to continue with the power requirements and some of the things going on with the promises, and delivering not much more than just kind of crappy art. Yeah, there's not much going on. Yeah it's not the nice demos everybody is not right we don't see any Shakespearean plays coming out of any of this stuff well what what is definitely sure that people are very disappointed by the reality of the interaction with the voice response versus the demo

1:00:50 Because I, you know... Sam Altman was also interviewed by J. Cal about a month ago and so as I'm thumbing through away from this Trump interview I get the Altman interview an hour of nothing! The guy says nothing! Yeah that's really interesting... And J. Cal and Chamath, whoever these guys are... Saks they were all saying well you know it has a lot of promise but the latency they kept talking about the latency I didn't see any latency in that demo where oh i see your sitting in a cool room Are you getting ready to do a podcast or maybe a demo? There was no latency there so they sexed it up The whole demo is fake and phony It's fake and phony

1:01:41 Yeah, well that's nothing new. No... Well we haven't fed you have at least some thoughts on this and but we're soliciting further thoughts from the fabulous audience of producers yeah but well particularly the gaming history someone out there will know for sure But this has got, and when this goes man it's going to be spectacular. I think they need to keep it going until Trump gets in. As spectacular as the dot-com collapse? To me that was the most spectacular thing I've ever seen. That took the whole market, well this will too! Because Nvidia is carrying the market Yes, its carrying everything

1:02:26 But what has gone from a chip maker that makes you know processors for gamers to the biggest corporation in the world really? Yeah, which needs eight times the power to power their chips. Should it even work? It's just hard no! No this is not gonna happen. Anyways we'll see speaking of fake and phony I'm going keep I got two more clips here from...I'm gonna go back for second to power and energy So we have a unique opportunity to show the future. A unique opportunity, I say! To show the future of solar and wind and how we all can live in harmony without any carbon dioxide...I'm sorry, carbon

1:03:06 And that is Ukraine. Ukraine could be a shining example and Zelensky's actually thinking about it. In Ukraine, the energy grid has come under sustained attack from Russian missiles. It caused more blackouts in the country facilities already struggling after repeated targeting. A barrage of strikes have continued this afternoon three people reported dead in Kharkiv Now President Volodymyr Zelensky has said this week there needs to be a rush for replacement solar energy for civil institutions across the country. He said it is a time of panic let's have a listen to his words from overnight. The government has been tasked with immediately presenting a program to encourage the installation of solar generation and energy storage systems in Ukraine. A program

1:03:54 that is as favorable as possible. All right, let's do it! Let's prove it! Let's bring out some solar make it all work power your cities I'd love to see it we all know it's not gonna work quick little update on orange painting of Stonehenge and Taylor Swift jet so as I already said it wasn't Taylor Swift's Jet You know, these people just went in spray painted someone else's jets. And I'm like this is a very costly thing if you can't just fly with some paint on there. There are all kinds of bad things happen at high speeds and so I go look and what exactly... because it came out of fire extinguishers?

1:04:52 It looked like they had fire extinguishers, the stuff they were using. Yeah that was filled with paint Well no it's not paint So Danielle what do we know about these protesters and is this orange stuff like reversible? Like are these rocks gonna be okay They're gonna be okay uh and they're gonna wash away at least that's what we're told by the protesters I'm not going to give you our viewers a history lesson here but there's a reason why Stonehenge is so remarkable It's a UNESCO heritage site. It is one of the most recognizable landmarks here in the UK, built 4500 years ago it in perfect alignment with the sun we don't know who build them but we do know today who tried to damage them 21-year old student from Oxford University 73 year old man who was quoted as saying that the orange cornflower that was used to create this

1:05:43 eye-catching spectacle will wash away with the rain but not the climate crisis if the leaders don't act. Okay now I have a serious... Yeah, yeah, I've heard it's cornstarch and a pigment. But I don't know.. I got a serious question! If they haven't ruined anything because it washes off why are we putting this on the news? It's the same, they go and oh they spray painted a painting. No! They put paint on the glass? Why are we putting these idiots on the news if they didn't do anything? Well I'm not going to argue about the point that this should not be covered but

1:06:25 It's, well I think the reason you put it on the news is because you got some crazy maniac with a fire extinguisher filled with this goo and they're spraying outside of an airplane. And you have a video of it... But if I was an editor I'd probably say, You know this is kind of interesting let's at least run it Oh yeah no it's because there's a point to be made! It's all theater! It's not actually ruining the airplane. It's actually ruining the priceless art. It's not ruining Stonehenge. It's MKUltra We're being mind-controlled into thinking that these children, and apparently a 73 year old are so incensed that they feel they have to go and destroy valuable objects. They're not! Well first of all until I see a washing machine spray just take up hose and spray off that crap that's on the airplanes which is typically what should happen the way they're describing it

1:07:22 I don't believe it. It's cheeto dust! And especially don't believe the thing with Stonehenge, that pigment if you ever buy just raw pigments then you can do that if your if you go to an art supply place a big one where they sell literally just sell pigment they don't sell its not paint as pigment is powder and you can mix it with cornstarch if you wanted to make a slurry That's no what he said He says it's corn dust It's corn flour. Corn flour? Or corn starch, it doesn't matter we know what this is it's a powder that you mix with the pigment and then you... Wait a minute no one said pigment! You can make wet and make a slurry and you can spray the slurry Are you with Extinction Rebellion?! No I'm just saying this reporting about how this stuff has washed right off his bull crap Well there's your clip

1:08:13 I want to see it washed off. That's what i'm... show me! Okay, well, I'm just saying that you're saying that no one said pigment No one said that you're putting pigment in there that stains everything Well where does the orange come from? Is this magic? From the Cheeto dust Which is pigment It's Cheeto dust You can lick your fingers and it comes right off When was the last time you tried to get all of that crap off your hand On a plane They serve Cheetos on the plane What plane serves Cheetos for God's sake? United, they got dudes in dresses. It's a great airline. They got everything. Dudes in dresses... Alright now we're talking about food I'm gonna take this one right up your alley the latest in food cuisine ex- uh- cuisine the exclusive solutions to the climate crisis will take many forms

1:09:10 One of which is algae. That's according to chef Callum Munro, he comes down to the coast every other day to collect seaweed here on the Scottish Isle of Skye. You do this every week then? I do it maybe twice or two times a week actually we come out yeah see this one here which i would say up there with the best sea spaghetti As you can tell why it's called sea spaghetti because it just looks exactly like this. Again, it has quite a subtle flavor but you can use it just as you would spaghetti." Together with climate activist Shona Cameron the two are trying to bring seaweed back into the kitchen. As a renewable alternative to fish and meat seaweed is the vegetable of the sea and is available all year round

1:09:54 They're sharing these ideas with schools armed with recipes for the children to learn. Oh, there you go! Teach them how to eat seaweed It's the vegetable of the sea I don't know what to say We're going too far with all this It stinks... it stinks... it's a nice wrapper for sushi Yeah that's about it Stop stop there He's holding up these stringy seaweed oh it is just like spaghetti In fact it tastes like spaghetti That's not well, that would be the world's worst spaghetti but okay. Yes I'm in agreement with you man oh man oh man... But before we drift too far astray because he did mention Trump i want to bring it back to that um trump i watched trump's philadelphia speech

1:10:48 I'm glad you did. Okay, I put it aside. I wanted to see if he had new material or what he was up to Was he kind of losing in a little bit? No this is bullcrap In fact he brings that up Hey i'm just telling you You-I played-it's not bull crap His prompter went out and he wasn't good And you heard him and agreed See I disagree He didn't use much of a prompter on this speech but He does ramble and he mocks himself for rambling. He discusses it, and he's reflecting... You thought the shark in the electrocution was a good bit? I didn't think it was a good bit. It was one of his bits though, and I didn't think it was horrible like you said but I do have two examples of new bits Okay One of them which is worse than this shark And one that I think he's going to use him in going forward. He has a bunch of new material

1:11:41 that he's trying out. He does an hour and a half He did two speeches on, he went and did one in Washington D.C., I guess which I didn't see and then he went to Philadelphia and did a big one. And it was interesting to see how his audience...I always check the background because he always has a bunch of people back there behind him and he always has a couple of babes that have they have a very distinctive Trump babe look. They got kind of their Kind of angular faces very pretty Photogenic looking anyway or telegenic and always holding up signs and on the side is back of it He's got the signs are all two-sided now, so he's got to messages Usually you trump 24 once in the other one was where they were they callipedges So if the girls don't show their asses. They're just a bunch of pretty faces in the audience alright Thank You

1:12:37 So he's got the signs and the signs say Trump something on one side, and the other side says too big to rig is his latest news. Okay so all the signs you flip around says it's too big to rig but slowly the background evolves when he finished a speech and could start talking about his audience behind him it was all black It was, there wasn't a white face in the crowd. It was all... I don't know how you even see him switching them out? Excellent! And you can see and couple of them were very, these very pretty women they were everyone was swapped out very slowly like I think one at a time Oh! So it's always a complete black audience behind him at the very end so he could reflect on to the house. They're literally doing this as he was speaking their rotating the audience Yes Wow that's slick

1:13:26 And he had an hour and a half to do it. So there was, it was so slow that you didn't let you watch the beginning and then cut to the end. You wouldn't have noticed it was like a rotating stage just slowly wrote on rotating stage. So anyway, so he has uh I have two examples of his new material. All right now they're short but This is under Trump and this will be the one we're going to play here. Is Trump Pennsylvania new material 1? But they get him in all these horrible compromising posts, and then they say he wasn't it really wasn't that way or so then everybody sends in they all have cameras see every one of you have a camera

1:14:08 If I blow it up here, though they actually take a perfect brilliant beautiful statement that I make. I go for two hours without teleprompters and if i say one word slightly out they say he's cognitively impaired whereas Biden can run into walls He can fall off the stage! He can fall up the stairs! He falls up! He can turn around listen to this From 20,000 feet of paratroopers landing right in front of him. Everybody all the foreign leaders are watching and he turns around to look at a tree and then they say it was fake He was fine And then the press goes along with it They go along with it They say isn't it terrible way The way they cover him now Now he's terrible The worst president In history by far We have to get about

1:15:02 or this country is not going to survive another year. All right, all right that's good that's funny so that was a good material so he did... So later he does this bit which is the second clip I only have two and this was a bomb and it was and I left the pauses in at the end so you let the whole thing play He gets nothing from this material he's gonna do, and then so he lets it slide for a while and then he changes the subject so radically. And I only have the beginning of The Switchover at the very end

1:15:38 And I was just saying, you shake your head. But this will you'll never hear this bit again. But every day you're reading about this but how embarrassing is it for me to say we will build a wall or we will build the border? But how embarrassing it is that they say we will keep men out of women's sports Who would want men to play women's sports? And yet for them, for all these people including the fake news media. For whatever reason it's like a big deal who would want it did you ever look at the weightlifting records records that stood for 18 years and a guy comes up have you lifted before no I haven't when they say a guy a person who transitioned have you lifted before No I haven't really couple of days

1:16:29 gets over the thing, bing! Bing! Bing! Are we crazy? Or the swimming where they obliterate records. Obliterate the women get windburn as the boys go by I'm suffering tremendous wind burn what happened a doctor says oh well i was swimming i'm an olympic swimmer but a person transitioned and he went by me so fast that the wind burned the hell out of me doctor No, it's so crazy and it is so horrible for women. It's so embarrassing for women

1:17:08 I will fully uphold our Second Amendment switch. Well, at least he knows when to get out of it but yes he does he bailed this is that windburn thing you'll never hear it again I'm sure because that was a just bomb dog It's um... This is because of Turning Point USA You know Charlie Kirk is touring with the women now and he's got Megyn Kelly and Candace Owens and Riley Gaines And that's why he is trying to shoehorn this in. But his punchline is right, and there's a dude in a dress! I mean you should do something like that, that's funny. Yeah, the dude in the dress was funnier than...

1:17:51 That bit didn't work. I mean the weightlifting thing almost got there, but then the windburn thing was just a loser and he's not gonna you'll never hear it again going back to that and then he switched the second amendment audience back going back to the first clip The MSNBC is real is doing this now He's right they're trying to make him look like his losing his mind so now we have the cheap fakes, Biden's great. Sharp as a tack sharp as attack but Trump oh no so I have three clips all pretty short actually the second two are very short this is the first one British chick of course

1:18:34 And here's how MSNBC is showing that Trump is losing his mind. There is new audio of Donald Trump admitting that he lost the 2020 election and then quickly reverting back to the original lie it comes from research for the new book Apprentice in Wonderland by Ramin Sittudah. He spoke to the former president six times and recorded the conversations. Trump's admission that he lost came during a conversation about his relationship with Geraldo Rivera. What was Geraldo like? He was good, did a good job. Yeah. He was smart, cunning. He did a good job. And are you guys still close or do you know him? No I don't think so.

1:19:17 After I lost the election, I won the election. But when they said—he called me up three or four times." In another conversation between Trump and Satuda, the former president claims that Joan Rivers voted for him in 2016. I thought she might have been a Republican. Yeah, I know one thing she voted for me is according to what she said One small hitch with all of that Joan Rivers actually died two years before that election He's losing his mind. I tell you Losing his mind now listen to morning Joe because they're really doing this now So my person down was in May he wasn't doing a lot of interviews and then we sat down again towards the end of the summer

1:20:01 And when I sat down, there was a very blank expression on his face. So I asked you remember when we spoke recently? And he said no, I have no memory of that and he couldn't recall He said it was a long time ago and then we had to start from scratch so the interview started from square one where he started telling me the same exact stories that I heard in our first interview. So he didn't remember some numbnut from Morning Joe and so he's losing his mind! He's losing his mind. But, he also seemed to think that he still had some foreign policy powers and there was one day where he told me he needed to go upstairs to deal with Afghanistan even though he clearly didn't... He told you that? While you were interviewing him at Trump Tower, he told you he needed to go upstairs to deal with Afghanistan? With the quote, The Afghanistan is how we referred it Oh, he's losing his mind Losing his mind I tell you

1:20:56 Yes, I have noticed this this phenomenon too and it's always on its own CNN and MSNBC only And they are looking at the one that really got everybody's attention. What is when he called? Ronnie Jackson Ronnie Johnson At one of his speeches And so everybody jumped on this, including Jon Stewart. Yeah. On his Monday night show. Yeah. And it was oh he can't even remember the name of his own doctor and they used and Trump referred to that particular moment in his Pennsylvania speech. But yes they're trying to make him seem like Biden

1:21:43 You know, it's almost the same age. You know yeah since you bring up Jon Stewart so he does the The Daily Show on Fridays I think is it one day Mondays Mondays and one day a week But he also has The Daily Show podcast and of course this is my alley because you know Podfather everything Boy pay attention that stuff And so you'd think the Daily Show podcast, I think it was originally called The John St- I'm not quite sure. The name has changed sometimes he drops the podcast from it but you would be expecting to hear a funny like an irreverent type show

1:22:23 No, that's what you'd expect the podcast to be extreme. It's it's boring and he has long boring Converse is kind of like that Apple show which was just boring so saw that Apple show was the worst So he got this boring show and it's interesting because he did I just have a minute-and-a-half of The Boring Show where he talked to Kathleen Hicks who is, what is her... She's high up in the department of defense. Isn't she the...? I thought she was one of Trump's old assistants? No that was the cutie no that's a different one yeah that was the press secretary. Kathleen Hicks is the deputy secretary defense and he gets into it with her about the audits

1:23:15 of the Department of Defense, or as we would say audit the Pentagon. It would be a good thing and I thought what came out of it was kind of interesting. Deputy Secretary of Defense. You can already hear the show is boring, it's like... He wants to be on PBS or something or NPR! He needs he needs to get closer to the mic I had an opportunity to speak to Kathleen Hicks, deputy secretary of Department of Defense. And i just asked about the failing of the audits. And I want you to listen, I think to what I felt like was a remarkably defensive for no reason attitude about even the prospect of being questioned on this. But don't you think that does speak to the larger point that we're trying to get at which is good journalism uncovers corruption?

1:24:11 Okay, I mean good journalism doesn't cover corruption but i'm not sure these two things are linked. An audit is not... Oh but they are! Okay so you need to explain to me do you understand what an audit does and the degree to which it is linked to the question that your asking? I believe so. Okay, go ahead. Give me your explanation. No, I don't mind learning So what I would suggest is that the audit that they have in the military doesn't really look at Whether or not there's efficacy, it just whether they got delivered the thing that they ordered and That is any audit. That is any audit that is true But generally those audits aren't 400 billion dollars for Raytheon and 1.7 trillion dollars for a plane that doesn't seem to be doing like there is a lot of waste fraud and abuse within a system

1:25:02 and waste, fraud and abuse are not the same thing. So let's decompose these things from... Then please educate me on... Decompose? Oh sure! So an audit is exactly what you just described which is... Yes. That's playback. Audits and waste, fraud and abuse are not the same thing. So let's decompose these things for a moment. Sure so an audit is exactly what you just described which is do I know what was delivered to which place? The ability to pass an audit or in the fact that the DOD has not passed an audit it's not suggestive of waste fraud and abuse. The conversation goes on to the point where she says to me You seem awfully concerned about the money Alright so I stopped at there

1:26:02 But that was kind of, I thought it was interesting that an audit is not about the waste. No, it's about did we spend $100,000 on a toilet washer and did we get it or not? Not if it's a wasteful expenditure So that was the only interesting thing of that entire boring show. But it leads me... Yes? Well, I will say this as she got defensive because of the nature of the way he orchestrated the question by assuming immediately that there was waste fraud and abuse and that's a reason for no audit. Yeah. So I believe that she reacted properly

1:26:41 Wow. To an accusation, an unfounded accusation! Just a suspicion...a hunch merely a hunch we have there may be some waste fraud and abuse going on yeah you could be sure there is so this brings me to the big announcement it's as we say in the lowlands the koholizdorokerek? The bullet has been shot through the church I have no idea why they say that The bullet has been shot through the church. Yeah, de Kogel is door de kerk I have no idea why this Dutch say there must be... Is there any historical reference to something being shot in a church? Well let's say first of all the Dutch are one of the biggest proponents of Lutheranism. They're all Lutherans they are and churches are

1:27:33 And that was, it became...it was early and the Catholics of course were banned pretty much. There's a couple of secret Catholic churches around and it's possible that some irked Catholic shot at the preacher or something in a Lutheran church. That's my only Kind of a long shot guess. I just looked it up and i can't find anything right off the bat but, I will have to look that one up so anyway the bullet has been... The bullet is through the church And we have a new incoming head honcho of NATO. ...who's came through in Brussels this week, a new leader is poised to take over as NATO Secretary General It's the former Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte who secured the backing of each member state The only other credible competitor was Romania's President Klaus Johannes He's backed out Now Teflon Mark is his nickname... Hold on a second I have been following Mark Rutte for awhile

1:28:31 I have never heard anyone refer to him as Teflon Mark. I mean, maybe Crisco Mark but Teflon Mark? No. Klaus Johannes is backed out now Teflon Mark is his nickname in The Hague one biographer said the 57 year old cycling fanatic has a trademark it's called Mieverin which... Okay! Mieverin also something I've never heard And I think he is referring to Mayweiren. which he'll translate as... He's bouncing, stretching along. No I would say it's more like sucking up being a slime ball being a fair-weather friend doing whatever is popular that's what the translation of Mayviren is or as he says Miviren so already we've got this this then we're building up some bad reporting as usual bad reporting but they all they also call him The Trump Whisperer

1:29:32 Oh yes, he'll be able to get Trump. This guy who was in HR at Unilever somehow became Prime Minister for oh my god what was he 12 years a long time? Forever Long time Almost the whole show And he's a wuss One biographer said the 57 year old cycling fanatic has a trademark, it's called Mivrin which means bouncing. Cycling fanatic? He rides a grandma bike to work! He is not on a 10 speed with Lycra. Has a trademark it's called Mivrin which means bouncing stretching along working with whoever he needs to work with

1:30:10 to rule with. This was Mark Rutter talking to the press in the past 24 hours. We also know about Mark Rutter, he likes his routine according to his biographer he's always in the same cafe on a Saturday in the Netherlands something I think will quickly change with security personnel on advice and also that he loves you too. And he loves you, too! He does what? He loves you, too... The band U2

1:30:49 U2 the band? Yes, he loves U2. The band yes Oh that's insightful This is like the Tiger Beat biography What is the point of taking some guy like that and making him head of NATO Because he'll do whatever they tell him to Who's they? The military industrial complex of course Raytheon Boeing whoever Of course He'l just do whatever Okay So he's just bullshit. He's always been bullcrap, always! I mean he locked down the whole population during COVID No, he is not seen as any kind of strong personality... ...He's wimpy, limp-wristed, weird... I mean, he rides his bike to work

1:31:45 Okay, how Dutch of you? And he's a maverin. Maverin! Which oh he bounces along no He'll do whatever is popular or whatever whatever he's being told to do so this just take it from me This guy is not a strong leader in NATO Interesting. Yeah, well your analysis is probably better than anything you're going to hear elsewhere so there you have it The troll room has some other words for him yes You're correct that too and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you the man who put the C in the Cheeto dust say hello To my friend on the other end the one only mr.. John

1:32:29 In the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning all the cheese dust boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room let me count ya don't move! We did better than Father's Day because we had a low low troll count 16 18 on the last the last Sunday. We have 1863, so we're back up a little bit. Didn't do much for the donations just the sheer number of donations that actual... The amount of donation just low I mean people are it's summer i guess and we've hit the summer people are too hot Too hot! They're melting they can't do anything else you threw out a double sad puppy to no avail

1:33:14 And what are you gonna do next? You just gonna kill a seal, a baby seal. We're gonna kill a seal! A little baby seal just club it to death? That's horrible and I need to apologize because somehow completely forgot to thank the artists for episode 1669, because as a value-for-value podcast there's many ways that people can help us. And of course we appreciate our artists to an incredible degree because they're always there creating stuff on the fly and it was Tantaniel... Of all people for me to forget, Tantaniel who did The Father's Day Art

1:33:58 which was a nice little piece. It was a can and it was the Noah Jen dad beer, it was a little small but we kind of went with it for this for the best dad in the universe, Curry Dvorak and then really small letters if you blew it up it says what's that in your mouth? I think that kind of clinched it for us sick as we are like yeah that's a good joke. Yeah it was cute! For the last episode 1670 We brought in, I mean you were actually on the Father's Day episode. You were vying for this cheesecake lady which I protested. Oh yeah you hate women! No I don't... Why does Father's day have to mean a cheesecake lady? That's what dad likes. That's what YOU like that's not what dad likes. Nah but I just liked the piece and thought it was good

1:34:56 Now you hate comic strip blogger. Well, no I don't! I've been friends with him longer than i've been friends with you same type of friendship um... No for a 1670 titled The Maloney Francisco Scaramanga nailed it and this was a cheesecake but had cheap fakes on her t-shirt It had double entendre it had a lot going for it and uh... and I think it was just perfect Perfect wouldn't you say? I liked it. Yeah, we had but there was another one that we were arguing about mistake the Father's Day wonders from the previous show or when I guess it was that show no cheap fakes oh oh the Darren O'Neill is that that we were looking at Darren O'Neill's cheap fakes 33 cents which had

1:35:49 Jorine, behind the lemonade stand. Oh yes this I like this piece because it was a throwback as a Peanuts reference of course with the free advice booth Lucy would be back there with Charlie Brown I liked it. The Scaramanga piece is probably better in many ways, but the Darren O'Neill piece was good and you criticized it because you said Darren O'Neall's always got this does throw away stuff. I said Darren O'Deal, no i didn't criticize it...I said the cheap fakes was better you didn't want to choose it because you hate Scaramanga that's what was going on! You're like that guy he's an a-hole? No I never said that but I would say oh but you did remind me that Scaramanga did turn on the show! He turned! And you in particular!

1:36:45 He turned on the show, said we're a bunch of jerks for no apparent reason and that got me to quit the entire social network they set up. The website just call it that. That was the end of that so there was some thought that Scaramanga should not be picked because of that. Darren O'Neal doesn't even want to be picked he just wants us to talk about him I think you're right. He's a, what is it called when you're an attention whore? There ya go! And that's it

1:37:22 Well, all disc jockeys are I guess to a degree. I think you're right Thank you as Francisco Scaramanga and thank you to all the artists who are always there trying to Trying to beat us with the punch trying to get something funny trying to get something in there that will like usually based upon The live content of the show it's not easy what they do And we just provide all the feedback because you'll never get that in a professional work situation by the way You can You can become one of the trolls by going to trollroom.io now forwarding to the new noagenda dot stream, which is just dynamite you can become a troll or join as a troll Or get one of those modern podcast apps at podcastapps.com and you'll get notified when we go live within 90 seconds of us publishing this show It's a bonanza!

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1:48:06 No, no. I did not. Well he's sitting there... I dodged the bullet clearly You dodged the bullet So he is sitting there next to Kissinger, I don't know why they got this guy Oh the crybaby? The crybaby Kissinger? The crybaby And uh and if they do something that or Cuomo obviously decides to throw the Democratic Party under the bus And I think it's worth playing. It got nothing to do with any more clips, but this was to me a... and it was posted quite a bit. I just took the regular posting of it and played here. The trial in New York, the one he got convicted for

1:48:45 was the greatest fundraising bonanza ever. He is now, he was lagging behind Biden and now he's pulled quite a bit ahead that trial was the greatest reason people had to send their checks for 5 10 25 whatever dollars to Donald Trump so I and i was always with you on on the one in New York the hush money trial I don't think they should have brought that one it was just always going to look like a sex case and people were always just gonna look at it that way So, anyway. That case the Attorney General's case in New York frankly should have never been brought and if his name was not Donald Trump and he wasn't running for president from the former AG in New York I'm telling you that case would have never been brought And that is what offensive to people Wow! And it should be because If there anything left its belief in the justice system Why is he doing that?

1:49:38 I wonder myself. It was like he threw the whole party under the bus, i think it's because he never got the support he expected to stay in as governor And he's irked, he's irked. Now he is a critic. So either that or part of the giant scheme to make sure Trump gets in? Well I'm thinking that but if you look at our official lawyer for the show Rob He always sends me an updated schedule Of all of the lawsuits that Trump is involved with How many can you name? I can only name three or four Yeah there are like nine We have the Hush Money case in New York

1:50:21 Right where that's I guess we're still waiting sentencing. We have the civil fraud In New York Trump and others falsely inflated property values to obtain loans We have the Dominion case Dominion claims it was defamed when Trump's campaign allegedly made false Accusations that a Dominion executive helped rigged the 2020 election, that's in Colorado Georgia State criminal trial Trump and 13 others allegedly meddled in Georgia's 2020 presidential election. That's a funny Willis case January 6 immunity this is in the DC district

1:50:58 Of course, the DC Circuit perhaps this SCOTUS federal criminal. Trump allegedly incited an insurrection on January 6th which allegedly had the effect of obstructing official government proceedings and defrauded the United States in other things that's Jack Smith then we have what I think is interesting This is not necessarily involving Trump but this is also in D.C There's a separate January 6 defendant, Joseph Fisher who was charged with assault and he is arguing that DOJ can't use Sarbanes-Oxley to prosecute him. Which is phenomenal! Somehow they're trying to convict him of violating Sarbanes-Oxley which I'm not quite sure how that works.

1:51:44 Then we have the Southern District, Florida. The classified documents mishandling Michigan. Michigan AG filed charges against 15 Republican electors for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election. Trump is not amongst the 15 but of course it has to do with him Arizona that's 18 Republicans Giuliani Mark Meadows We have the Gene Carroll defamation cases two of them I mean this is amazing What they've done. Yeah, all after he said he's going to run for president. Yes! That's what makes him so great Everyone came after he made the announcement Some within three days That's what makes it so cool Um... yes

1:52:28 Well, the only thing I think they accomplished what they wanted. I don't think these cases are going to go anywhere now because the idea was to get him convicted of something and it's been discussed and discussed and they say that people on the inside that are at the hideout where Biden is being prepped and jacked up... It's called Camp David. Camp David but is in the basement so he feels comfortable The idea is he's going to throw out the term convicted felon, which is all they really wanted to get out of this. All these cases somebody because the rest of these have been put off now that these cases are not gonna come to fruition but they got what they wanted which is convicted felon before the sentencing and before all this anything that can reverse the decision could go into play because this next Thursday you're gonna have the debate

1:53:20 and Biden is going to drop the convicted felon bomb at the debate. Trump will be ready for that Yeah, well it'll be interesting to see what ready means in that regard. I don't know. He'll be ready but what's he gonna say? I predict huge numbers on that CNN broadcast and its kind of... That is going to break all records And its kind of interesting because its in a way to throw back to the 60s I think The way they're running it is very similar to the Kennedy-Nixon debate You know just a studio no audience but answer question, then you answer the question very quote-unquote civilized Yeah, right so So I was looking into Jake Tapper's background spook and when you because he's gonna be one of the two hosts him and Dana Bache Dana Basch was literally married to a spook Yes exactly. So if you live if you read

1:54:20 I think it's in even in this Wikipedia. Jake Tapper takes credit, you know the first CNN debate with Hillary and Trump back in 2016 2015 2016 era there was one of the debates at CNN And because it was everyone's really interested in these, in this debate where they gave Hillary the questions. Donna Brazil? Yeah right. The Donna Brazile gave her the question but the point is that he got the highest rating CNN ever got and they credit it because of the presence of Jake Tapper Really?! Well if I recall correctly one of our producers was in catering and catered

1:55:06 the assistant CIA director's birthday, something like that or FBI and Jake Tapper was there just working the room. Yeah of course! That sources say you know sources say so this will be a huge blockbuster even though ABC is gonna also carry it but it'll be big numbers for CNN even though it's going to be watered down because ABC is also gonna do a simulcast I don't know how they got that to happen But you know, it happened. And then he'll be... because of Tapper! Yeah everyone wants to see him. Wow, well, Tapper's the man he's the man of the hour He's the Man About Town

1:55:49 There's two incidents with Southwest that I just need to handle for a second here. The FAA is investigating another concerning incident on a Southwest Airlines flight after a plane appeared to come dangerously close to homes near Oklahoma City For some reason they blew through an assigned altitude and continued and got very close to the ground A Boeing 737, which took off from Las Vegas Tuesday night was descending into Oklahoma City's airport just after midnight when it dropped as low as 525 feet over the city of Yukon passing just over a high school. A low altitude alarm alerted air traffic control which contacted the cockpit. The air traffic controller in the tower saved the day by telling them check your altitude

1:56:37 This is what I find so interesting. There's a couple of things in this report and was very similar everywhere, so the The flight goes too low clearly because they're not there still on their approach And they are they are low and the tower says hey we got a low altitude warning you guys okay He didn't say check your altimeter No he didn't say that you guys okay everything all right to which they replied yeah? We're good, and then they Increase their altitude The air traffic controller in the tower saved the day by telling them check your altitude. The plane landed safely but local residents flooded social media saying they thought the plane was going to hit their homes It was night, it was late perhaps the crew was tired They were descending over the prairie so there were no lights or visual reference it was essentially descending over a black hole

1:57:33 I don't know who this Jamoke is, who's reporting on this. But you are looking at your altimeter. You're looking at the height of your aircraft, not into the black hole! Where are we? Can you see anything Bob?! I don't know... The only thing that can happen here is they didn't set their pressure altitude known as QNH which gives you the correct reading based on barometric pressure Maybe that happened Or maybe they're just really inexperienced. Either way, this should not have happened but it's... DEI baby! That's possible and here's when this kind of goes into the next story which is a part of this report for you know whenever I fly

1:58:21 And I fly the Cirrus from the flight school. If i go to Dallas with Tina, who doesn't really love flying in this little plane but I always take the instructor because I'm going to be 60 in September and I am not fast enough that I can especially Dallas area where there's four airports is very busy and if you're on the radio you go uh Then the next thing that air traffic control does, okay you go fly out 20 minutes that way we'll call you back later when you think you're ready to come in. So but these are 25-28 year olds and I fly what maybe twice a year? Maybe three times a year to go somewhere it's always a new instructor because they are getting zapped up right away straight into the airlines. A lot of them female

1:59:09 And they're low hours. They've got, you know 700 to maybe a thousand hours so they get another 500 then you can fly tech according to law You can fly on you know and a jet on a big one at the passenger jet but they really don't have Just all the experience and whatever happened with the pilots, you know I think a lot of them died a lot of retired a lot of got out of the business There's not necessarily. I don't know about DEI but there's not a lot of experiential Airmen and airwomen who are in the business now, and this is what we're seeing. They were given clearance for a visual approach so they were looking out at the lights of Oklahoma City looking for the airport And for some reason they missed that assigned altitude perhaps was distraction in the cockpit

1:59:57 Earlier this week, it was revealed a Southwest plane from Hawaii came within just 400 feet of slamming into the ocean back in April. A memo saying a newer first officer accidentally pushed forward the control column. This is unbelievable to me because they were executing a go around. It was horrible weather there's a lot of torrential rain, a lot of airplanes were doing go-around which is hey I don't feel good. I don't think we should land let's just let's go around and try again And so what you do then is you push the throttle forward, you pull back on the control column. Eventually that you want to put the flaps back in the right position. Why someone would push forward on the column? That person should not be in the cockpit! I don't know what happened there

2:00:45 All I know is that the real good pilots who are from Navy and Air Force, they're not going to airlines that have Boeing anymore. They're all going to airbus outfits particularly FedEx and anything else that doesn't have passengers and has airbus. They don't want to fly Boeing in Southwest is all Boeing so that's my report Well that stinks. It does stink, it's not a happy report. There are C-5 pilots you'd think could fly anything Yeah but they don't want to fly that They don't wanna fly Southwest I guess not No Uhhh... It's Pride Month John Time to make fun

2:01:34 Yes, I've only had my one opportunity for this. So I guess you must have a few clips? I do yes! I got some Chicago local news the University of Illinois has been...has received an award for their let me see what is it the LGBTQ plus health care equality high performer And boy, the ladies on the show were all jitty. It's a two-parter. This Pride Month the University of Illinois Hospital and Clinics have a lot to celebrate. UI Health has been recognized as an LGBTQ plus health care equality leader for the ninth year in a row that means they are going beyond the basics when it comes to adopting policies and practices in queer care Dr. Mimi Arquilla

2:02:22 Queer care, here it is John. That's the new one queer care we have now healthcare no queer care comes to adopting policies and practices in queer care Dr. Mimi Aquila and Carl Johnson join us now with more thank you so much for being here thanks for having us designation really means. Doctor, what is queer care? Can we start there? It means that our health care facility was evaluated in four areas and those areas being the programs and services we provide for LGBTQ plus people, what our foundational practices are in terms of organization, in terms of our involvement with the community

2:03:05 and also in terms of our employee benefits and services. And so we provide services in all four of those areas, and that's how we got that designation is because we were able to achieve high status, high standards in those areas." By the way, this clearly woman who you're hearing female voice is dressed and looks like a dude. What does that mean? Tell all of our viewers. Yeah so I think when understanding inclusive care you first have to kind of understand that not everyone has the same experience in healthcare and that can be for a lot of reasons it can be because of gender sexual orientation race insurance status lots of different things and with inclusive care at the goal

2:03:55 is to provide high quality care to everyone. And, to do that you really have to break down barriers and meet the community where it's at and really address those needs." So I was about to throw this clip away...I'm like they said absolutely nothing other than we excel at queer care which is just offensive! What is queer care? That's not even a gender but now know we have queer care And I would have tossed it out had i not gotten a complete explanation of what they really won the award for in this second clip. Talk about some of those hesitations that people might face in going to get care where someone may not even think that this is something that other people are facing. Yeah, so there's a lot of reasons people don't like going to the doctor. I think in particular for LGBTQ people it can be fearful of other situations that have happened that have been unpleasant like being called the wrong name, being misgendered as invasive questions that don't really have anything to do with what you're there for

2:04:55 or just having a provider who doesn't know a whole lot about LGBTQ health. And as someone who's not only a doctor but like, a patient and has had all of those experiences at other healthcare institutions... I completely understand why people don't want to go to the doctor and it really empathizes with them But I think it also kind of drives me to advocate for a really great healthcare experience. And similar to UI Health, the guiding forces treat others the way you'd want to be treated and in doing so there's a lot of things to make people more comfortable at the doctor or in the healthcare setting. All right we're getting down to it! So it's about being misgendered

2:05:36 And what actually can we do to win this award and make you feel comfortable? Some of those things are as easy as wearing a pronoun pin, to let people know your pronouns. Asking people their name, their pronouns using those correctly and just creating that welcoming environment It's about the pronouns Yes, it's all about wearing a pronoun pin so people know that you're an ally and that you care about pronouns. That's it! Because this person was misgendered somewhere... And this went on for 10 minutes! Queer Care Wow But I love your insurance status. I have no—I literally have no health insurance

2:06:27 But you had some sort of Texas thing? No, I have... You know we have crowd health which is it's crowd funding so you pay like 300 bucks a month. That's reasonable and that well yeah but we were paying 1800 a month for the two of us that's not reasonable and deductible $16000. Are you kidding me? Yeah this is ridiculous It's just the whole thing. It's a jip it is a complete jip But if you go for the queer care, oh, you don't have to have any insurance your queer will take care of ya know maybe I Might have to there seems to be some benefits so I just To change topics a little bit

2:07:23 I do have a clip, since we brought up the very beginning of the show which was what can trigger a collapse of the AI phenomenon. And so i have this what's called a wow clip which is a clip that addresses this a little bit from NPR it's about the Clearview suit that is not really being covered very well but... Clearview are those guys who sell all the pictures to the cops? Yeah, facial recognition company. Yeah that company yeah. Play? Yep just play. The facial recognition startup Clearview AI reached a settlement in the lawsuit alleging its massive photo collection of faces violated the subjects privacy rights attorneys say the deal could be worth more than 50 million dollars judge Sharon Johnson Coleman gave preliminary approval to the agreement yesterday but

2:08:16 Yet the unique agreement gives plaintiffs in the case a share of the company's potential value rather than a traditional payout. Clearview is not admitting fault as part of the agreement." What makes this wow to me is that these companies have finally, especially public companies decided hey what if we do the pay out of these lawsuits in stock? I thought that was genius. That is a good idea! Yeah, okay we owe Whitewell $100 million dollars? Okay let's issue some more stock... Now do they do an offering for that? They do a secondary? I think it would be a private offering you could do it there's all kinds of scammish ways to do it. They could do a pipe

2:09:00 They could do a lot of things, but it's just genius as far as I'm concerned. Companies note this even if Ford say Ford General Motors they have it for during the Pinto era instead of giving people money to have some stock. You have some stock? That is good idea. Well speaking speaking of lawsuits or legal matters so You know, although there's not a lot of reporting in the US per se about Saudi Arabia de-dollarizing. I'm just going to use that term by apparently not renewing the deal to only sell their oil in U.S dollars making the U.S dollar the reserve currency

2:09:47 Well, I think that we're starting to nudge them a little bit as CBS out of the blue. The CIA broadcasting system starts to bring up an old story which includes the 28 pages that were not included in the 9-11 Commission report. Oh yeah! CBS News exclusive. The unnerving video outside the US Capitol filmed two years before the 9-11 attacks Good evening i'm Nora O'Donnell and thank you for being with us Two decades ago, the 9-11 Commission found that al Qaeda acted alone. But victims' families say that is not true, pointing to this video and other evidence as proof they are suing Saudi Arabia claiming its government provided crucial assistance to the hijackers and planners behind the September 11th attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people. 60 Minutes correspondent Cecilia Vega reports

2:10:41 A voice on the video says in Arabic, I am transmitting these scenes to you from the heart of the American capital Washington. This video unsealed in federal court this week and obtained by 60 Minutes was recorded in the summer of 1999 The man behind the camera is Omar al-Bayoumi, who the FBI says was an operative of the Saudi intelligence service with close ties to two of the 9 11 hijackers. The video was filmed over several days. Bayoumi recorded entrances and exits of the capital security posts a model

2:11:18 building and nearby landmarks. In this portion of the video, Bayou me points out the Washington Monument and says I will get over there an report to you in detail what is there? He also notes And so then they bring in a whole bunch of former spooks to confirm this and this was probably related to flight 93. Richard Lambert is a retired FBI agent who led the initial 9-11 investigation in San Diego where Bayoumi and the two hijackers lived temporarily before the attacks he's now a consultant on the case filed by the 911 families if you've ever flown into Washington DC one of the first things you see on the horizon is The Washington Monument

2:11:59 So if you know where your other targets are in terms of the Washington Monument, it helps guide you to your intended target. Federal investigators believe the hijackers on flight 93 which crashed near Shanksville Pennsylvania had the US Capitol as their likely target. The lawyers for the 9-11 families and former intelligence analysts we spoke to believe portions of the video show Bayoumi surveilling the Capitol as part of that plan And in the video he references a quote plan. You said that in the plan, what plan?

2:12:36 Who is he talking to? What do you think he's talking about I think he's talking to the Al Qaeda planners who tasked him To take the pre-operational surveillance video of the intended target So this video is taken in late June and early July of 1999. What does that timing tell you well, that means it was taken within 90 days of of the time when senior Al Qaeda planners reached the decision that the capital would be a target of 9-11 attacks. That's when Osama bin Laden decided to approve Khalid Sheikh Mohammed so called planes operation

2:13:13 In the days after 9-11, British police discovered the video during a raid on Bayoumi's UK apartment. They also seized Bayoumi's handwritten address book that the lawyers for the 9-11 family say was filled with phone numbers of numerous senior Saudi officials who were in government at the time. I don't believe any of this story, but that is not the point. The point is, okay Saudi Arabia we got your number We go back to the 9-11 situation at the time. There was a lot of discussion about suing Saudi Arabia, and our government blocked it. Yes because we had no... No you can't sue them because they're our friends and so it got blocked never happened but we all knew that there was some information that was left out of the report

2:14:05 So, which could be anything that could create... if you had a number of years to create this whole thing could be like you think is maybe a fake. But yes, this is exactly right. This is the little pressure point because if Saudi Arabia got blamed and sued by all these, by the 3,000 families that were harmed it would be a nightmare That was the idea, to prevent the nightmare. And now okay you guys are gonna screw us out of our petro-dollar deal that you agreed too? Either re-sign up or the nightmare begins! That's what this is. There's a little annoying fact about it... Yeah that was good find I'll give you clip of the day. Thank You. Unexpected but

2:14:58 I just came across it. I'm like, hey, let me clip that. Yeah, it's a winner! Let me clip that... That's what the show is all about. That's what it's always about but want to move into Israel It's now just Israel versus everybody I do have the Gaza update from PBS if you want to just start with that. Oh, yeah We'll start with that hold on a second Gaza Gaza update PBS here we go death toll in Gaza climbed higher today following two Israeli air strikes on separate locations One hit a refugee camp and another struck an eastern neighborhood of Gaza City how?

2:15:34 Palestinian and hospital officials said at least 39 people were killed. Israel's military said they were targeting two Hamas military sites, and in Tel Aviv tonight thousands of people rallied to demand new elections and call for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to reach a deal to bring hostages home. They keep trying to get him out! He's just like nope nope I'm just gonna sit here. It is mostly Western reporting that talks about this way if you get it if you To the Middle East reporting, there's less of it. Oh yeah trying to get him out I think this is us trying to get him out well and i don't think we're trying to do well maybe the Biden administration but the whole idea here is exactly what we heard from Massey

2:16:21 Representative Massey said these military industrial complex donors to AIPAC, they want war. They want more war. They want war not just within Gaza that's just a starter pack We want to go to Lebanon, it's on the West Clark 7 and they want to get to Iran. And that is where this is headed. Here's NPR. We have to remember the Lebanese state is extremely weak and Hezbollah was created with the help of Iran largely to fight Israel after the Israeli invasion in 1982 Nasrallah said his group is much better armed now. And as an example, he noted drone footage released this week with detailed images of potential targets in Haifa Israel's major port city He gloated that with all of Israel's air defenses the drone was able to slip through them and he said that if there were war Hizballah would fight with what he'd said were no rules

2:17:18 As for reaction, Israel's foreign minister dismissed Nisrael's remarks saying that if it came to war Hezbollah would be destroyed and Lebanon severely hit. And Israel also has interests in a gas field off the coast of Lebanon Oh yes! Leviathan Leviathan right over there, beautiful. And the BBC of course chimed in... All out conflict has been threatening to erupt there since the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah began firing missiles into northern Israel following the October 7th massacre, prompting tit-for-tat responses from Israel. It's so interesting how this happens like well you know...

2:18:06 We're almost done there in Gaza, we've killed everybody. You know what? Why don't we lob some missiles in? It's our turn now! Now we're gonna do it!" Israeli strikes into southern Lebanon have displaced more than 90 thousand people on the Lebanese side of the border but some have stayed saying it's better to die at home with dignity then be driven out of their land like the Palestinians Fear of all-out war extends as far as the capital, Beirut. Where some say they keep suitcases packed and passports ready in case full scale war breaks out. Hezbollah is a well trained, well armed military backed by Iran.

2:18:54 Its leader, Hassan Nasrallah has threatened to invade Israel if full-scale war breaks out and says nowhere in the country will be spared. But Israel has been talking up its readiness to take them on Tough talk is part of both sides strategy of deterrence, but the line between deterrence and decision on a war is becoming harder to see. But the longer this conflict goes on... ...the more it turns into playing with fire." I mean war is such great business! How's Raytheon stock? Is that doing anything? Let me take look at the year-to-date. Oh yeah!

2:19:38 It was at $85 in January. It's 105 now, beautiful! Beautiful. Raytheon stock up that's great you know and remember all my Iranian friends always say oh no they are America and Iran there they play these games together And then when we have Russia doing deals with North Korea You can't make this up South Korea has condemned a defense pact that North Korea signed with Russia earlier this week. The foreign ministry called it, A threat to peace and stability on the Korean peninsula Seoul summoned Russia's ambassador to the Foreign Ministry To discuss its concerns While the details of the military pact are still murky South Korea is worried That it could encourage North Korean aggression Seoul announced in response That it was considering sending weapons to Ukraine To support

2:20:33 It's defense against Russia. Are you kidding me? So now we have North Korea and South Korea representing Russia and Ukraine, are you kidding me? Frank, Vladimir Putin warned Seoul that supporting Ukraine would be a very big mistake How is Seoul interpreting that warning Well, I think Seoul is still interpreting that warning. One of the articles of this agreement suggested that each country North Korea and Russia would come to each other's aid with all means if they were in a state of war The Korean War ended with an armistice not a peace treaty So a state of war arguably exists now on the Korean Peninsula

2:21:21 This is just sick. It's it's unbelievable. They're just pushing it right in our face Oh, look we'll make some more war stuff over here. They don't spend more on war And maybe a good way to waste money Yeah We got people with tranq just upside down on the streets bent over so I have my two Ukraine Ukraine and sorry crane doesn't say it right you crane? I got a couple of Ukraine updates one from NPR and contrasting with one from PBS okay I think they're both short.

2:21:59 But let's see how they do. Let's start with NPR. Russia launched a major attack of guided bombs on Kharkiv, Ukraine second biggest city overnight killing at least three people and injuring more than a dozen witnesses A4 explosions were heard around the city and Moscow also targeted Ukraine's power grid for the eighth time in the past three months. Ukraine's Air Force says its defense systems shot down 12 of the 16 missiles and all 13 drones launched by Russia Man, Eric Schmidt's making out on this deal. Remember he was doing all the drones in Ukraine? He's making out! No I don't remember that Yeah well he had a whole sit down with Fareed Zakaria and he was like oh drones it's gonna be drones and he was right

2:22:43 It's all drones. Everyone's drone. Well, actually the guided bombs are the more they it's interesting that NPR mentioned the guided bombs which is really what the Russians are did no one can stop these things because they're coming down at this speed of you know gravity right the glide buzzing around I find it interesting that PBS, I don't believe in this clip even mentions the guided bombs. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Russia has launched more than 2400 guided missiles at Ukrainian targets this month alone. His remarks followed a deadly day of attacks that killed three people and injured dozens more in Kharkiv, Ukraine's second largest city.

2:23:25 Zelensky said Ukraine needs more help from Western allies. Oh yeah! So I got some useful news from Africa News, it's not about Africa this is the only place i could find this where Putin is reaching out to NATO. During a briefing with graduate military and law enforcement schools in Moscow, Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed his willingness to engage in discussions regarding security matters with NATO member countries. Recently at a meeting with the leadership of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs I outlined our vision on

2:24:05 to create equal and indivisible security in Eurasia. We are ready for a broad international discussion of these key vital issues, both with our colleagues in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the CIS, the Eurasian Economic Community, BRICS and other international associations, European and NATO states among others naturally by the time when they are ready for this. In addition, Putin pledged to enhance the nuclear capabilities of his nation and equip the military with a state-of-the art weaponry." So he wants to talk but in the meantime ramp up the nukes. They don't want to talk No, of course they don't want to talk! Let him talk to himself They never talked about peace ever...ever

2:24:54 I have... There's no money in it. Peace is not profitable. I have a little bit some updates on the bird flu, which has gone kind of quiet during this week. Yes, I noticed this. During this week of the debate. First we have Larkin soon to be Dame Malarkey and she provides boots on the ground She says, I'm a third generation farmer in California and have so much farming information to share with you guys. It is our busy season but i'll try to send more info soon although the war on chickens jingle is one of the best! I believe it as... I believe it's a war on protein beef dairy and chicken and just farmers in general notice you don't hear much about pork this is true

2:25:49 Of course, the Chinese own the pork industry in the U.S., Smithfield Foods. We don't hear much about pork it's only chicken beef dairy not about pork It's interesting I think yes and it's when you and the pork prices are extremely low right now Uh-huh yeah The Summer of Pork is what we talked about Chinese pork Talked about The Summer of Pork? Well...we literally said The Summer of Pork on the show Yeah, all right. Don't make me look it up now I don't want you to look it up and I reached out to my friends who Did very well in the testing business during kovat your buddies? Yep And I said what are you hearing about the bird flu here's what came back

2:26:35 The CDC made a call out last week to CLIA certified laboratories asking them to create rapid tests for bird flu. Just like they did when COVID started and the surplus of rapid tests popped up on the market, I'll keep you posted so... Oh that'd mean more free tests! Yeah! I can load up We know it's a bonanza we know it's a bonanza yeah well I get to test for free but somebody is paying for them Exactly. The taxpayer. Your US government. Yes, the vape wars are back on. I see you have two vape war clips. Yeah these are kind of pathetic. Oh good! Let's start with those. This is about trying to get kids off of these things and this is considered a crisis. It's a teen vape crisis. This is good stuff

2:27:42 One of my friends was so addicted she would say things like, I'll just die at 20 whatever. 2.1 million teens vaped in 2023 a third of whom were just in middle school What uh who's doing this reporting? what outfit? I believe this is NPR At a Senate hearing Wednesday lawmakers asked the FDA why it's failing to tackle the problems This is a shelf full of potentially dangerous substances in a store in the shadow of the FDA building. I'm just trying to figure out if any of this is illegal or how in the hell it's legal. Senator Tom Tillis points to flavors such as strawberry, dragon fruit, watermelon even watermelon bubblegum The FDA's director of tobacco products Brian King never directly answered We do have a pre-market paradigm for reviewing applications and the sheer volume of that app...the volume of those applications and the volume of the market requires us to prioritize our enforcement efforts

2:28:43 The president of the campaign for tobacco-free kids, Yolanda Richardson answered in his place. FDA failed to assert its regulatory authority over e-cigarettes until a substantial e-cigarette market had already formed and e-cigarettes had already become the most popular tobacco product among youth FDA then further delayed. E-cigarette popularity exploded in the mid 2000s when they entered the market, the US market was valued at $28 billion in 2023 and is expected to grow at a compound annual rate of 30.6% from 2023 to 2030 only 23 e cigarette brands are authorized for sale on the U S but over 6,000 brands are on the market

2:29:31 What is this? This is actually quite good because I know what this is about. What is interesting, they keep saying e-cigarette and tobacco product. Vape is not a tobacco product there's no tobacco in it. Nicotine yes but that was the whole problem is that kids were vaping and they weren't smoking so the MSA, the master states agreement... That you know the tax money was going down down down because these kids are not on tobacco. Now all of a sudden vape is an e-cigarette

2:30:10 And it's a tobacco product. This is the new, this is the new thing they're doing. This is a big switcheroo." Well they've done a good job of it you know the funny thing I had to listen to when recorded and edited these reports...I don't see anybody using vapes at all in the Bay Area Well you're about to and I'll tell you why but i want to hear your second clip. Okay well let's play Clip 2 and then you can tell me why. Over a quarter of youth e-cigarette users use the products every day one of the primary reasons as you have heard children are attracted to e-cigarettes is the sweet fruit candy and mint flavors they come in Dr Susan Wally helps people get off nicotine products

2:30:53 She says it's very difficult to get children to quit because of the high nicotine volume in vapes. The adolescent brain is more susceptible to nicotine addiction, so symptoms of dependence can appear in days to weeks a first experimentation. She says for most teens usage is consistent frequent and dependent such as the case with high schooler Josie Shapiro. The first flavor I tried was blueberry ice But I tried pretty much every flavor my friends had. I thought I was just enjoying the flavors, but soon my 14-year old brain craved the nicotine more and more." Shapiro is still addicted. She says vaping is affecting her mood, her ability to breathe, her skin and her social life. I've tried to quit vaping over and over again but it's really really hard everything in my life is a trigger hanging out with friends driving my car going into the bathroom going into the convenience store

2:31:48 All of it makes me want to vape. The FDA and Department of Justice have pledged further cooperation in battling teen vaping. They're forming a task force with several other agencies, including the Postal Service. Yes. Before you go on with your analysis I don't know if you noticed this but she said she's a 14 year older It's her 14 year old brain. Yeah, she's reading from a script and then she said she was driving a car Isn't that interesting? How does that work? How does it for you know as she stole an ex tails cars? I didn't have a license if she's 14 joyriding we used to do that So there's something about this report that that kind of bothered me all right

2:32:31 So we have to go back and I know we have vape experts out there who will help me if i go astray. And please feel free to email because this, I'm a vaper but it's not an e-cigarette okay? It's a big battery and I wind the coil and I've got you know pure cotton not from China so first we had Juul this is really what it was the Juul E cigarette The Vape which was you put in a little thing in their little cartridge Reynolds bought it. Who owns Marlboro? Is that Philip Morris? Philip Morris, I guess. They bought it. They tanked the company. Blew the company up

2:33:13 What's happened now is all these companies that wanted to have, especially these flavors. They're all out of business because the FDA said you can only get something on the market if you pay to have every single flavor and every nicotine level tested at about a million bucks per flavor or per nicotine level so all these companies went out of business vaping is pretty much dead except for The Chinese, that's why the Postal Service was involved in that report. The Chinese are flooding the market with absolute crap because all these flavors whatever who knows what they're putting in that but that's not what this is about This is about bringing back Juul I think one or two shows ago we had the FDA going oh yeah no Juul yeah We're gonna approve you now and right on cue after they took menthol cigarettes out

2:34:04 menthol cigarettes who smokes menthol cigarettes black america smokes menthol cigarettes let's bring them back in people The FDA has approved the sale of the first menthol e-cigarettes for adults. The authorization does not mean vaping is safe, but health officials say it can be a little bit less harmful as an alternative to regular cigarettes. The move already is getting pushback from anti smoking groups who argue its only going to fuel the youth vaping epidemic further And why do they want all this? This is because of Senate Bill 2929 to amend Internal Revenue Code of 1986, provide tax rate parity among all tobacco products and for other purposes. And this is also known as the... What's it called? The Tobacco Tax Equity Act

2:35:00 And what do they insert into the tax code? Nicotine. Taxable nicotine! Remember, it's not a tobacco product So now... Oh yeah this is how we do it You want to do something bad, kids? No problem as long as we can tax it. So now they're going to tax the vapes and now we make it legal again We just have to get the Chinese stuff off of the market It's so insidious They ruined a burgeoning industry Almost got Trump in on the deal if you remember Then Melania saying oh no this vaping is bad And then Trump was like yeah and then he spun on a dime and dropped out of that whole thing

2:35:43 Because this was the scam they were pulling. They ruined all competition, gave it to the big tobacco guys and now they make it legal again with their approved tobacco products which is not tobacco its nicotine and it's taxed It's a beautiful scam! It's excellent I have to say if you're gonna do it, do it well but don't pretend like these little script kiddies... You can pretend all you want doesn't matter nobody cares You're the only one. I'm not the only, I'm not the only vapor? No i'm saying you're the only one who cares about this scam Oh well because I am NOT in it! Which by the way is a very interesting take I'm going to expose these scams that I'm not involved in One more clip I wanted to play about the anti-defamation league cause this just cracked me up

2:36:44 This is too funny. It's from Morning Joe, so it's like everyone is going crazy What side are we supposed to be on? We have to be on the Jew side On the Arab side The Hamas side The Hezbollah side Let's go to Wikipedia One of the world most popular information websites has declared the Anti-Defamation League as an unreliable source The editors at Wikipedia now say that the top Jewish civil rights group and one of the world's preeminent authorities on anti-Jewish hate is not a reliable source for information about the Israel Palestine conflict and antisemitism. Their claim that because it's you guys are both in their words advocacy and a resource organization so therefore, the advocacy taints

2:37:30 the research. What do you make? I mean, look our processes are absolutely rigorous. Our methodologies are sound they stand up to scrutiny everything is transparent and done very above the board we have a team of PhDs who does this work anti-semitism is up Acts of harassment, vandalism and violence are up. And if you don't have the leading organization in the world tracking anti-Semitism on our data on Wikipedia, anti-Semitism will continue to increase I mean we work with policy makers We work with journalists We work with elected officials Law enforcement just shed a light on this I just love that they're taking Wikipedia seriously

2:38:15 Yeah, that's pathetic. But there is also an illogic in what he said And the old logic is that if we're not doing our jobs, then antisemitism will increase. Well you're doing your jobs and it's increasing anyway! So what good are you? I just love the editors of Wikipedia determine who... Yeah, Wikipedia has always been woke and it's got all kinds of issues. Spookness! It's completely wrong about half a dozen things at least. Of course. And this stays with it. A bunch of spooks running it It's hilarious. I think it is great! Oh, by the way Sir Jake sent me a note we were talking about Taco Tuesday on the Eisenhower? Is that what it was? The USS Eisenhower. And I was like oh what's this with taco Tuesday well i got slapped

2:39:11 As a naval supply officer who has been in charge of galleys on ships, I can confirm that Taco Tuesday is a huge hit of sailor favorite and something we simply can't do without. If Taco Tuesdays went away it would be a morale crusher. Good to know! I doubt it... Good to know? I take it from Sir Jake he knows what's up Well, if you before we take our final break I do have a kind of a second half of show couple of clips Yeah well let me just throw the theremin in them all right now entering second half of show. You've taken over my gig Let's find out nobody else is doing it no So this is a podcast called forbidden news that has

2:40:02 I'd gotten a lot of attention on the Twitter and some other social networks, and it's just a couple of blowhards. This guy O'Looney or Loony whatever his name is British guys and they're talking about the how the UN troops are coming in to take over everything. Oh, yeah Yeah, this is always good. Yeah The blue helmets are coming. Yes, and they're gonna come in there to come in United States too But this is the British version It's the same kind of story that we get here but this is a bunch of Brits talking back and forth about it and to listen to this insanity It's just beyond me. So this UN soldier is an unforbidden news. You know, we talked about a lot of things to do with COVID and what your experiences were with all of that but you've also been speaking out about something else that seems to be growing exponentially every day and that is the mass illegal immigration that's going on in England

2:40:58 in Wales, in Scotland and over in Ireland as well. I mean it is quite literally off the charts and a lot of people are saying look this isn't normal there's something not right this isn't just refugees coming in these aren't people fleeing from some kind of war zone these are predominantly men aged between 25-35 Young fighting age men as my old boss Nigel Farage once referred to them and I think he's right. John, what do you think is going on here mate? So i can tell you these are UN soldiers and they will be deployed by the WHO when they announce their next pandemic lockdown

2:41:36 That's what is going to happen. They've been trained by British soldiers, they have been trained by the Black Watch Regiment and they were training them in Antalya in Turkey and then east of Ukraine. Predominantly down to sergeant ranks there then shipped to France, they all sign the Official Secrets Act, then their ferried over. And the idea being that they are ferried over means that they're lost at sea so they have to be under international law saved from being lost at sea and that's why they take the route they do. The boats are housed in a home office compound and then they're shipped back to France on two British haulage firm lorries, and I can supply you with details of the reg numbers

2:42:16 What made you listen to this? I got into a back and forth with one of our producers. Oh, it's one of these...I love these emails like this is great you gotta listen to this so you gotta watch this three-hour rumble video yes always rumble and you did it

2:42:56 I did. Military-age men, there it is again military age man yeah same trope now this is a total trope the people that have the guts to make these kinds of you know they leave one country and go to another one where another tends to be people in a certain age group because you're not gonna find 90 year old man or kids or anything in between so its military aged men And so, but the rationale this is what I have these clips. It's the rationale and the delusion that these guys express and I hear it from our producers that get into this too. It's delusional to imagine any of these you know there's I have clips, I have... There's a guy who has been taking movies. I got a million hours of it. He was on Jimmy Dore! He was on Jimmy Dore! It must be real

2:43:49 Yes, exactly. And so I consider the second half of show nuttiness. Let's go to part two Just just to recap you've got evidence that these boats are coming in they're only doing that because it was to meet some kind or pass through underneath some kind of radar in terms of legislation Yeah if you're lost at sea they're obliged to save you and that's the idea of them coming over in small rubber boats as they're lost at sea That's the maritime law. But you're saying that these are not normal illegal matters? No, if you think about it logically and kind of based on a common sense approach... If you were fleeing war and tyranny I don't know about you but I would certainly take my wife and children with me they're most precious they're my prized asset

2:44:39 You know, they're everything to me. If you're going to war, you go at war with the lads and that's... these young men are coming over there they gonna be deployed they will be deployed and people will see then you know? And I don't doubt there'll still be some Muppets that will stand on their doorsteps banging pots and pans do you know thanking these young men for helping us because initially they'll be deployed in what's perceived or conveyed as a humanitarian role I'm going to tell you something, I nearly fell off my chair when i interviewed this young man. His name is Niall McConnell he's an Irish political candidate and I had an interview with him a couple of days ago

2:45:17 And he was telling me, and I'd been aware of this but he was telling me that these illegal migrants are being recruited for police. They're illegal right? But they're going to be given the position of police officers in Ireland to police Irish people. And a vote as well! Oh my goodness... You know if you send me one of these links or like a Corbett report and i don't reply to you... A Corbett report?! It's because we have been doing this for 17 years. I mean, even got so on the other day you clearly aren't familiar with the Q strategy. That still not around is it? Oh yeah and there was a because you know i was talking about Trump like he hired all these horrible people he's good at firing

2:46:09 But he's not good at hiring. No, no, no! You don't understand that's the Q strategy keep your enemies even closer. Oh okay. Well please... JFK Jr is gonna be his vice presidential pick? If JFK jr is his vice presidential pick and JFK jr comes back from the dead I will eat my boot Yeah, well that's a bet you... yeah. You can make these kinds of assertions because the chances are zero in hell! And Fauci's mom is Mother Teresa? I mean it's crazy! I like that one. Just look at her face and look at the... It's the same blue and white colors from Epstein's Island. Uh-huh. Mmhmm.

2:46:58 So here we go with part three and this is the end. And to vote! That's what nearly made me fall off my chair because he said they just have to be proved that they've been living there in any capacity, could be a tent for the last six months yes and they will then be allowed to stand in the elections and become elected? Yes yes and you got people like Shane Fienne facilitating that you know what happened to Shane Fienne At one time Sinn Féin, a lot of people in America they still don't know haven't woken up to this yet. Yeah yeah at one time Sinn Fein was seen as the political arm of the IRA yes they were fighting for Irish republicism They were fighting for Ireland and now look at it, now they're destroying Ireland It goes on! Yeah i can imagine well you're very brave you're very brave to have sat through all that

2:47:52 Hey, podcast. I have my hopes still high on podcasts but especially do you know that? Have you been following just as a last little bit here that it's quote unquote Soros so I'm not even sure who that is anymore but the Soros organization has been getting all kinds of waivers from the FCC to buy Odyssey. The Odyssey is probably next to I heart one of the biggest radio conglomerates And they got everybody on there, like Kennedy and Mark Levin and all these guys. And so everyone's like, oh Soros is he's going to take always gonna brew it. He's gonna get rid of conservative voices. Have you not been following that? No I have not even heard any of this until right now Oh yeah, FCC waivers boost Soros bid to further silence the right with Odyssey Takeover

2:48:54 And so Odyssey has a big... So they already put 400, they were already shareholder. You know the Odyssey filed for bankruptcy and so they put $400 million in the Soros organization Weekly the network reaches 165 million listeners conservative hosts including Sean Hannity Dana Loesch Mark Levin, Loesch, Glenn Beck and Eric Erickson. And so the thinking here is that he's going to take them all off the air and put on some lefties! And I'm like do you have any idea that radio is dead? The median age of the radio listener is 75 this is over

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2:57:40 Like a party! Alright, you got any ISOs? I do. I have two. Okay... Whatcha got? I got cannot. I cannot do it again. And then I got Trump saying not too good That's not too good Umm..I have uh let me see I think i'm over-ISOed actually Here's Arnold It was boring Yeah No. Or, I hate it every minute of it! Come on... That's a good one. That's pretty good. Um... Also have uh- How did this get in here? Oh you gotta give him that hook too and spit all night long! I don't know how that got in there. That shouldn't be there. Ummm.. That by the way is the woman who's bringing America back together There's this one It's time to go!!! And this one Yes, that's right. That's true

2:58:44 Yeah. Well, I don't like to use negative ones but from Schwarzenegger i like the I hated every minute of it... I hated every minute of it! It's kind of clear and crisp. And you know we have our mixed feelings about that guy. That's right everybody is time once again for the tip of the day John C Dvorak what do you have in store for us? So, you know one of the things about this show which I'm uncomfortable with is there are ragging on vaccines on the Vaxx on the COVID shot. The mRNA shot. You're uncomfortable with that? I am comfortable knowing that at least half our audience has taken this shot Okay fair enough

2:59:35 So I have, so Peter McCullough has a protocol for ridding yourself of the after effects of the shot. Yes That we've kind of discussed but never fully discussed so I decided just to link to it and my tip is for people who had this shot to go look at the protocol and see what is it is And read about it as easy get to, it's on the web. You can type this into check to make sure it works. Tinyurl.com we all know that tinyurl.com slash no dash agenda, no hyphen agenda. Oh excellent! Now you did some work there and produced something thats good. Yes I did. Nice And so go there and read that and then if you had... This is where

3:00:26 I think the protocol sounds possible, it sounds like a winner. McCullough's the one who developed it and I think it might be something people should be aware of. No, no agenda. Okay? Yeah, I get it regular. No agenda doesn't work. I like that because um, I know people here in town who were forced to take the vax and they are they have done this protocol

3:01:02 There's several functional medicine doctors here in town who are administering this protocol. And from what I hear, with great success whatever that means people are doing it and i think that's a great idea. And its all public domain products is not like you have to go get a prescription? And I've also heard people just taking ivermectin on like a regular basis Yeah yeah I've heard that too but I think this... Bacolod and this protocol I think is probably better Yeah, unless you have worms then the ivermectin do the trick. It's not good news it's good advice John C's tip of the day Beautiful beautiful at the end of another broadcast day not on Odyssey nope We can't be taken over by Soros But we will club a baby seal if you don't support us film at 11

3:02:02 We have end of show mixes from Judd Hawley, Professor Jay Jones and David Koepka coming up for you. And if you want to stay tuned to trollroom.io noagenda.stream Coming up next we have the Millennial Media Offensive this is episode 125 You definitely wanna check these kids out because they are millennials and they're doing media offensive. And their value for value so why not? Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in Fredericksburg Texas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's kind of chilly i'm John C. Dvorak we return on Thursday debate night Of course its a show day they know what they're doing over there

3:02:50 In political land in DC, Jake Tapper's gonna save the day. We'll get you ready for it Remember us at noagenthedonations.com Until Thursday adios mofos a hooey hooey and such Of course they passed out the memo to their as you pointed out their stooges I think there is so much misinformation, disinformation as we've been talking about. The president wandering. Cheap fakes videos of real events These videos are effective because they are. They're called cheap fakes for a reason? The president wandering

3:03:30 Kareem Jean-Pierre and others are calling these cheap fakes. Cheap fakes? We're hearing about so called cheap fakes The president wandering... We've been calling it cheat fakes Literally describing what CBS News has been doing for years Where was the edit?! The president wandering. This is so misleading and shameful. So-called cheap fake videos, however we have seen particularly in the last few months the videos targeting Biden are getting a lot more traction online. He's just turned to rain and starts wandering off.

3:04:14 What about Biden? Do you believe he is fit to lead us? No, that's a really good question. Oh absolutely! People have been watching. They express concerns about your mental impunity they say that you are too old... Come on man we want to go with the evidence and the truth The very public and obvious cognitive decline of the US president The President is seen walking away And there is not one thing funny about it Oh absolutely I know it because I know what mental illness looks like. No, I'm serious. There is no shame in being unwell. Come on man. Jill, Dr. Jill Biden where are you? What mental illness looks like! I watched a man completely void of all awareness That is your judgment Aimlessly wandering away Oh absolutely What mental illness looks like

3:05:09 We've entered a new era. No, I'm serious! There is no way in hell Joe Biden is running America. That's your judgment. You want to go with the evidence and the truth? The blame for this tragedy lies squarely on the people around him But what about Biden do you believe he is fit to lead us? No, I am serious What mental illness looks like Aimlessly wandering away. The very public and obvious cognitive decline of the US president That is your judgment There is not shame in being unwell The President is seen walking away No, I'm serious Because I know what mental illness looks like

3:05:51 Come on, man. Jill! Dr Jill Biden where are you? No that's a really great question... No I'm serious What mental illness looks like?! And there is not one thing funny about it Oh absolutely come on man because I know what mental illness looks like. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Let's not be fooled. Joe isn't one of the most effective presidents in our lives despite his age but because of it...

3:06:39 I love this clip. I love this whole topic. You all have called this the cheap fakes video, and that's exactly what they are. They're a cheap fakes video? I love this bar chart because it's just a memo they sent out earlier obviously. Okay done in bad faith. The fact checkers have repeatedly caught them pushing disinformation. Disinformation! I am so good at seeing this and it doesn't stop me from coming from your part of the world, calling them a cheap fake misinformation. Deepfake misinformation. Oh no! They're really manipulating what was being said and what was being seen. Gaslighting, gaslighting, gaslighting the public. Cheap fakes video. That's exactly what they are

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