Imminent Threat

00:00 Delta, Delta, Delta. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Sunday, January 12th, 2020. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1207. This is no agenda. Printing up fresh protest signs and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DeVore. Okay, you're in a mood today. I can already tell what I didn't get a proper hit it I got a And then what kind of opening was that I mean there was my opening it was spectacular Okay, okay Well, there are some ideas for the opening I could come up with nothing. I'm sorry

00:56 Problem in media land. Oh Yeah, big problem. Really? Yeah, we're no longer seeing Impeachment news as the most important item discussed. It's gone off the radar Well, I've been vibing. I did will be after the debates which are on Tuesday Yeah, they will do a pivot. I Mmm, I'm not so sure man. We've got a story that is so big. It's it's too hard to resist CNN has already switched It's now in hot rotation All right. Tell me what it but tell me about I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I'm sure I will know in a minute Megxit oh No, yes all day yesterday wall-to-wall

01:53 wall-to-wall wall-to-wall now that you brought this up I'm now at myself for not grabbing this clip of Michael Bloomberg going on and on about the thing. He's being interviewed in a train and they asked him this, they asked him that, and the only thing he was excited about or seemed to want to talk about was this. The fact that Harry and Meghan are are trying to extract themselves, a lot of people just think Meghan has gaslighted Harry. Well, there's a lot going on here. First of all, the obsession

02:36 with the royal family in the United Kingdom for one and as you know a lot of the press here in the United States just copy and paste the Daily Mail anyway. I'm looking at you Silicon Valley shit rags. It's like oh, this is a good story clickbait. Yeah, I'll write it a little differently no problem. America is obsessed, we're obsessed with royalty and we're just all jitty about it. And one after another of these royalty experts on CNN yesterday just boom boom boom boom boom. They love, love love love Meghan and Harry. And it's obvious they got the Diana deal.

03:21 I'm sorry? Oh, the Diana deal. Yeah. What's the Diana deal? You're gonna die. That's the Diana deal. You have screwed up. Oh, you don't think Meghan's gonna get killed by the Kingsmen? No, I do. No, I do. Oh, you think she's gonna get killed by the Kingsmen. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I think it's all over. Listen, she came in, you know, this is not a real royal, he's the son of the Was it the Navy captain or whoever Diana had that affair with? Whoever the redhead she ran into. Whoever the redhead was. It's kind of a giveaway. The redhead is a problem. Yeah, so the Queen brought, said, all right, you know what, it's okay, bring in Meghan and then, oh, she's brown, I'm shipping you off to Africa, which is, I'm telling you, racist they are over there.

04:11 So yeah, you go do a tour of Africa. That'll be good because you know, you'll help reconnect the bonds with the British Empire and with the royal family because you know, you're kind of brown. But then Harry I think caught on to what was really going on. And this is precisely how it went down with Diana. She tried to extract herself, she went on the world stage, she did a lot of good, and she wound up dead. And there's this interview that I found with Prince Harry, I'm fairly sure it's the real deal.

04:49 It could be a deep fake, but it was video so I you know I watched as close as I could it sounds like him I think it's him and what he's saying isn't all that extraordinary unless you think about the Diana deal You know my mom clearly taught me a certain set of values of which I will always try and uphold Despite the role in the job that sometimes that entails if you know what I mean, but I think Always I will always protect my family and now I have a family to protect so Everything that everything that she went through and what happened to her is incredibly raw every single day And that's not me being paranoid. That's just me Not wanting a repeat of the past and if anybody else knew what I knew

05:39 Be it a father, be it a husband, be it anyone, you'd probably be doing exactly what I'm doing as well. If anyone else knew what I knew, you'd probably do the same thing, is what he says. Now, can we interpret that as the paparazzi will be the death of you? I don't think they're quite at that level. But certainly Meghan Markle has all of the same Hmm personality traits with the dress with Hollywood. Yes, I have a quick analysis if anyone knew what I knew now knowing that he was born from out of from Diana via some character that you mentioned earlier. Yeah, he may know Because he's not a lizard. I Think that's very possible

06:34 Particularly if you listen to this report. David I.K., how you doing? If you listen to this report, they're hanging out with lizards. Your reporting is that they're going to move to L.A. for the most part. They're going to have a residence in Canada as well, but it looks like Megan is going back to LA. Yes. I mean, that's where she grew up. That's where her mother is She's an LA girl, you know, that's where her friends are, you know And also we since marrying Harry they've got more showbiz friends like the Clooney's and Oprah, you know, that's where they want to be That's where Megan doesn't she take a lot of advice from Oprah and the Clooney's and then that absolutely and you know We're hearing that they have that had a lot of advice on this and encouragement on this to break out from the royal family shell. Oh, the Cloonies, man! The Cloonies did it! There's proof! But I cannot underestimate what an earthquake this is in the UK as far as the break from protocol. The Queen didn't know anything about it. The royal family are furious. Harry's father, Prince Charles, is furious.

07:30 It really is a huge scandal. So they're not abdicating, they're just kind of stepping back. So really they want the benefits, but they just don't want the full-time gig. Exactly. So they're becoming, they're giving up being senior royals, which means they keep the HRH title, you know, she'll still be a princess, he's still a prince, but they don't have to do all the royal jobs. She's not a princess. Was that? She's not a princess. She's a duchess, isn't she? Yeah, yeah, I am. She was refused princess dumb. Yes by the Queen. She's not a princess and that's what pissed her off apparently You know, she'll still be a princess he's still a prince

08:10 But they don't have to do all the royal jobs that they're expected to do. And the main thing is they said they want to make their own money. And this is what everybody's upset in England about because they get... I don't understand. There's a very obvious path for them to make money. I don't get it. Why is this so hard for everybody to understand? All they need to do is start a podcast. Money in the bank! and they'll still continue getting a lot of that money for quite a while unless they do really want to work and stand on their own. By the way 5.2 million, I'm being told, 5.2 million US, that's a pretty good tidy sum of money. How in the world do you protect these two when they're in Los Angeles? I mean if they want to come over to the Gallagher's house are we going to have a big contingent of security officers around Los Angeles? Absolutely, absolutely. The thing is that they are guaranteed security for life.

09:09 by from the British people and the British taxpayer pays for it which is around a million dollars US a year. So that won't change. Whatever they do, that will not change. You said make their own money. Does she go back to acting, do you think? Well, I mean, there's been a lot of debate about that. We think that she'll be doing more influencing. I think she'll open her Instagram account again. She'll be doing more paid appearances and maybe some acting if it's deemed to be tasteful enough. But they're certainly going to be earning money in different ways that they could not do in England. So I remain baffled by this being 2020 and people still having this obsession with these fake people with funky hats who have great houses in the middle of awesome places and they pay them because you know it's tradition we need to keep the tradition.

10:06 This is all Meggle's doing. Terry's pussy whipped. He's nothing. It's sad. That's what everybody thinks. I'm pretty sure. The fact remains, and we'll see this coming week, I have a feeling that there's so much fatigue of seeing Skeletor Pelosi and everyone bitching and moaning and Moscow Mitch and all this crap. Particularly on the cable news networks, this is a breath of fresh air and something I can get obsessed about. during the MSNBC began as kind of a generalized Microsoft joint venture with NBC. Sure did. I had worked there. I helped them launch. And they had no ratings. They couldn't get jack ratings. We had a show called The Sight that was on MSNBC. It was a text thing. Oh, I remember that. And they couldn't get any ratings. The thing was a dud.

11:08 And they did the Diana got killed. Boom. And they switched their coverage all to 24 seven Diana, Diana, Diana, Diana. And then they said, this is we're getting numbers. Hell with this other crap. Exactly. And I, I guarantee you, CNN is seeing numbers. They did this with MH 17 a full year. They stayed on that topic. Top of the news every hour every panel was all about. Oh, where'd this plane go? Was that MH 17? Was it 3 3 the other one that I don't remember the numbers the one that disappeared and Yeah, and it was an obsession for them and there was there were other things going on in the year I mean we had a show so something was happening and

11:53 And now they've grabbed onto this and if you got a British accent then you are in like Flynn. You've got money in the bank. Just say you're a royalty watcher and you're good to go. And they're all cute. All the women who show up to talk about, you know, who are royalty watchers. They're good-looking, easy to look at. I think it's a ratings bonanza and it's gonna be very hard for them to move away from it. Yeah, it's like, it's slightly addicting. It's like tasty candy. Yeah, and what it is and why it is, it'll always baffle me, but it is a fact. So that's going to be problematic. And that of course will affect us too. Less clips. Yeah, because we won't have any good clips from CNN making fools of themselves. Yes. And before we dive into the topics of the day... Luckily, Democracy Now will never make that change.

12:51 So we had, there were a number of severe storms that came through the southwest United States, also through Candinavia. In fact I got texts from Sir Ducifer, he said worst hail storm ever coming your way, park everything in the garage, or I think he said park your best vehicle in the garage. The storm came through, it was short and violent but there was no hail. And of course I knew exactly what this was, it also came from the southeast, it's so obvious. This is from our rain sticks. Probably. This is the blowback that we can always expect. We don't like using them.

13:35 Well, but just a couple of reports. Sir Andy from Tarragle Beach. In the morning, Adam, it hadn't rained here for many months before the rain stick. All the grass was totally brown. We routinely had days over 110 Fahrenheit and were in constant fear of the fires. After the rain stick, we had at least four days of proper rain and the grass has started to grow. I think this would be true also for Sir Chris in Merrickville and Sir Baz in Bateau Bay. My father who doesn't listen to the podcast has no rain and there are still many areas burning out of control. Could it be we are only getting the rain stick effect in places where no agenda is being listened to? I'm interested to know if there's a correlation between where the listeners are and where the rain fell. Many thanks." I believe so. Oh, I've got to hope. Totally. And I watched a movie, I don't know how old, I think it's relatively new. It's not a great movie. It's called The Mandela Effect.

14:31 And the movie centers around a father, or a couple, and their daughter dies, she drowns on the beach. and he starts noticing the Mandela effect and the movie kind of uses... You should explain what that is because I think that's been passed over. Okay. We've long since forgotten that one. The Mandela effect is... it gets its name from things in history that a large group of people are very sure were a certain way and turned out not to be true. One is that the guy on the Monopoly box has a monocle.

15:09 He does not. The Berenstain Bears, turns out it was Berenstain Bears. Sinbad was never a genie in a movie and it gets its name from Mandela that there's a belief that Nelson Mandela died while in prison. And there's even video of George Bush saying he's dead while he was in prison, W. Bush. So that's the Mandela effect and the thinking is, is this a glitch in the matrix? What is going on? So they kind of use this Mandela effect to get into the, we live in a simulation.

15:46 And long story short, the dad who's a game developer, he figures out a way with a supercomputer, I know it's going off the rails, to set a mount point just before his daughter drowns and then reboots, basically overloads the entire simulation that's running the world And then it reboots right before he makes a decision that in this case, in the previous case his daughter died and now he makes a different decision. And the thinking behind it is that the simulation throughout the world

16:27 Whatever's driving it, whatever's powering it is not powerful enough to keep everything running all at the same time. So very much like a video game, until someone observes a certain area, it's just dormant, it's dead, it's not running, it's completely still. And then when someone, or maybe it has to be more than one person, sees this area, then the sim comes back to life and that's where these glitches sometimes, and I said it, glitches... You said it, and you said it with meaning. You said it, you said it sincerely. I did. You caught yourself though. Yeah, I did. But you didn't catch yourself before you said it. So just taking this as a premise, I think the karma and the rainsticks is a version of that.

17:08 It's a version of somehow we're cutting through the system and we're able to affect change on the simulation in certain areas or with certain individuals. That's what I'm thinking. That's what you're thinking. You know, you agree kind of with Scott Adams. He tries to throw in the simulation gag every so often. Oh really? Yeah, but he's approaching it from an intellectual standpoint. I'm talking about a movie. I just watched a movie and it had some impact on me. But we've had a lot of success with Jobs Karma. I don't think the Rain Sticks have failed once.

17:58 Every single time we've been requested to shake the sticks, it happens. And we always get the blowback with bad weather here in Austin. I don't know if you had any, but I always get bad weather after the rain season. We had a lot in Washington State, that's for sure. But talking about going back to Scott Adams about you and him being in agreement. I got a little irked by this. I have a clip from Scott Adams. Okay. And it has a little bit to do with his thesis and it's bothersome that you and Scott Adams are in agreement on certain things. This one is really the one that's the bad one. It really is annoying, to say the least. The clip is Matt Gaetz. He's talking about Matt Gaetz being a perfect presidential candidate. Now, have I told you before the following things? Number one, Matt Gaetz

18:47 is a strong contender and I'll go so far as to say probable presidential contender at some point in the future. Probable. Probable winner as well because just based on his skill set, he has all the skills. He has all the skills. I don't think he's missing a single skill. to be a GOP candidate and I think he would clean the table on any Democrat that ran against him. With the exception, there's only one exception, there's only one Democrat I could imagine in the future. Remember we're projecting now five, ten years in the future or whatever. And that's AOC.

19:35 I love it when you produce in the future or whatever. We did not say Oh see Yeah, well we agree we agree on a OC we sure do Sandy Sandy oh president and president Sandy yeah yeah I haven't thought about it in a long time she has a dog though she's got that you just got a dog new dog no kids she's got a dog so that's perfect got a pooch for the White House I think the president has been put on notice

20:17 Not about this in particular, but there was something that happened that caught my eye and these are the things that we interpreted in a particular way from the New York Times. A former United States Marine posed as a security team member for Marine One, the helicopter that transports President Trump, and breached two checkpoints last week at Palm Beach International Airport. Ah, they used to pull this stunt with Obama constantly. They did it with Obama all the time. It's just a message. Just so you know we can get to you anytime we want. Well this brings us back to the Jeffrey Epstein hanging and some of the screwiness that's been showing up the BBC reporting that apparently Comey's daughter was somehow involved in the disappearance of the of the tapes that were in the surveillance tapes. She's a special prosecutor at the Southern District New York. She was put in there specifically.

21:11 Yeah, the tapes disappear. They kept, oh, we kept the wrong tapes. Here, I have the clip. The Jeffrey Epstein's hanging story with the secure prison facility is the warning to everybody that anybody can be, is done if you, if you, they want to get rid of you, it's very easy to do. And now they're pulling the stunt with, now Trump has his own people. Yeah, but this, let's see. This guy, he just slipped through. Yeah, what did they do with this guy once they caught him? Did they bring him aside and grill him about why he did this, who's behind it, and throw him in jail, which they should do? He was released on a $100,000 bond. According to court records, neither Mr. Magnin nor his lawyer could be reached Saturday. If convicted, he faces a maximum of three years in prison, a fine of $250,000, and a year of supervised release. So they let him off with the bail. Yeah, let's see how that goes. Let's see how what goes.

22:16 How that goes, whether the guy does admit it in prison or if he just disappears? Probably not. But the guy was, he is listed in the Florida Department of Law Enforcement sex offender registry. He was released from the Marines dishonorable discharge. Because of some sex offense apparently and this guy with fake credentials mind you fake credentials The only reason why he got stopped is a sheriff's deputy noticed. He wasn't wearing the right Marine Corps uniform Standard during presidential travel well, how about that? Huh all you got to do is have a fake ID and kind of look the part message well, thank goodness for the local police message to you Rudy

23:08 Here's an Epstein clip since you brought it up. Jailhouse video of the area around Jeffrey Epstein's cell on the day of an apparent suicide attempt no longer exists. Federal prosecutors made that admission to a judge yesterday. They said the New York City jail thought it preserved the footage of guards finding Epstein on July 23rd. But it actually saved video from a different part of the jail. The FBI also determined the recording wasn't on the backup system due to technical errors. Glitch! Epstein later hanged himself in August while he awaited trial on sex trafficking charges. I'm surprised that no one has used the glitch.

23:52 Keep looking for it. No one has used the glitch word in this unfortunate Circumstance where the backup even didn't have a copy how is so it's so coincidental. That's unbelievable Yeah, well glitch may be code. Yeah for shitty shitty code. How's that? It's code for crap code. That's what it is, but this this is not a glitch They could have easily have said it was a glitch. They could have said something went wrong in the backup. None of that. I'm surprised. Maybe absence of the term has some meaning. Possibly. Possibly. Alright, let's talk about Iran. Looks like we're getting more right by the day.

24:37 Well, let's see. I do have maybe a backup kind of a backgrounder overview, overview of the Iran Iran update on democracy now might be appropriate. Representatives has voted to approve a non-binding war powers resolution aimed at limiting President Trump's ability to take further military action against Iran without congressional approval. President Trump ratcheted up tensions with Iran by assassinating Iranian commander Qasem Soleimani in a targeted drone strike at the Baghdad International Airport last week. Thursday's 224-to-194 House vote included three Republicans voting yes and eight Democrats voting no. The resolution now heads to the Senate. The vote came as Iran's ambassador to the United Nations blasted the U.S. at the U.N. Security Council, speaking on behalf of Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif, who was unable to address the Security Council himself after the U.S. denied him a visa in violation of a 1947 U.S.-UN agreement. This is Ambassador Majid Takhravanchi.

25:39 I'm here today to deliver a statement on behalf of his excellency Mr. Zarif, whose visa was denied by the United States in contravention of the headquarters agreement. And here is his statement. We are meeting today to discuss a momentous imperative we are all confronted with. The world is at a crossroads. With the end of monopolies on power, one unhinged regime is frantically clamoring to turn back time. Thousands gather in Chicago. He said unhinged regime? Yeah, it was great. Did he have the talking points on the prompter is the question? Was it just right in front of his face?

26:22 With the end of monopolies on power, one unhinged regime is frantically clamoring to turn back time. Thousands gathered in Chicago, New York, Seattle and dozens of other cities to protest war with Iran Thursday night. The New York Times has obtained video that appears to show an Iranian missile hitting the Boeing 737 jet that crashed shortly after takeoff in Tehran Wednesday, killing all 176 people on board. All right, so there's a lot to deconstruct here. I'd like to go back a few days before we had the admission from apparently an Iranian top dog. Well, before you go back a few days, let's go back even a few more days so I can get this one thing out of the way, which is the guy who died that's triggered the whole thing.

27:07 Want to get his name out of the way. What would the clip be called guy who died? There's no clip I just have the Yes, go for it because nobody talks about this guy, so it's not a clip I can't get a clip got it, but his name was now Riz Walid Hamid lived in Sacramento the best story written about him was in the Sacramento B would been his wife because his wife was upset about this to say the least and I'll just read a few paragraphs and Hamid, who worked as a linguist and had attended classes at American River College, was killed in a military base near Kirkuk by a rocket attack. The US blamed Khatib Hezbollah, a militia group. His wife was notified by his employer, Valiant Integrated Services.

27:56 Valiant is, I'm just reading just a couple of random graphs so you get a feeling for this. Valiant is based in Herndon, Virginia and offers a range of international services including interpreters involving INSCOM, the Army Intelligence and Security Command, support for special operation forces and counterintelligence services according to its website. So... Spook. Sorry. So, the guy was a spook amongst others and got killed and this was not acceptable. So, the whole thing began when they don't start killing our people. Exactly. Well, you'd think that that would be the message. Now, I've learned over the years that when you... the use of the word but is... you got to be very careful with the but. One must be careful with the but word.

28:55 when you say something and then you put a but in there or if you say something I say well, well yes John indeed but yeah there's always a big but it negates everything that came before the but then it's only post but that matters and this is all that I heard over the past couple of days when this all came out. And of course we have a montage. Soleimani was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American troops and thousands of innocent lives throughout the region. But he was not the whole of the regime. There is no question that Soleimani had American blood on his hands, that he was a bad actor in the region. But if there is anything that we have learned... Soleimani is a person with American blood on his hands. But we also know that this guy was...

29:45 was a bad news guy but he was a ranking official. No illusions about Soleimani, he was a terrible person, did bad things. But Soleimani was a bad guy. But Soleimani is an evil man. He has absolutely ordered the murder of hundreds of Americans, but Soleimani was a malignant and dangerous character. But Soleimani has been a threat to America and Americans and our allies for a very long time. However, undoubtedly General Soleimani was a very bad man. Soleimani is certainly a murderous individual, but Soleimani was a bad guy. There's no question about that.

30:23 So this is all politicizing the event. And it was immediate and it was shameless on all sides. I do have to mention something. I didn't realize that there's an intellectual variation of but which is however. However, I know. I considered using that myself. I was like, yes, darling. However. Yes, exactly. However, people, you won't even hear the shoe coming.

31:03 So it was completely politicized, which, so anyone who is now boo-hoo war, F you. What a bunch of phonies, immediately taking to politicization. They don't care about, even the guy who was a spook, he's an American citizen. There were other, I don't know if it was just contractors or other Americans of whatever ilk who were also wounded. Shit was blown up. Now, that doesn't matter at all. They don't care. And by the way, they don't care. They don't care how many servicemen and women get killed. You never see that on the news. Oh, maybe there's a little announcement here or there. No one cares anymore, at least in the news media. It's not important. It's all about power and politics. Here's Joe Biden on the trail. Six months ago here in New York City, I made the case that Donald Trump was

31:50 dangerously incompetent and incapable of world leadership. In the past few days, in the wake of the killing of the Iranian General Soleimani, I think Donald Trump has proven beyond that comment, beyond dispute. The haphazard decision-making process that led up to it, the failure to consult with our allies or Congress, and the reckless disregard for the consequences that would surely follow was, in my view, dangerously incompetent. We have not heard a sober-minded explanation to reassure the American people that this decision and its consequences were thought through. No level-headed words meant to dial down the tensions and to take us off the path of conflict. No press conference or consultation with our Congress. I love that he's asking for press conferences with Congress or a consultation. Tensions. Concentration. Listen to him.

32:45 No level-headed words meant to dial down the tensions and to take us off the path of conflict. No press conference or consultation with our Congress. Concentration? No. What we've heard so far from this president are tweets, threats, and tantrums. And however you may feel about American military presence in the Middle East, there's a right way and a wrong way to draw down our troops, our true presence. Getting unceremoniously kicked out is unequivocally the wrong way. Complete politicization, which I guess Joe would make sense that he's doing that. But again, it's all about Trump and it's very clear, it should be obvious to most, that this will be the next

33:31 impeachment, article of impeachment or whatever they're going to call it. That's why the War Powers Resolution came out, which is a resolution, it's not law, it doesn't restrict anything above what the Constitution says, which is very clear and which has been ignored by every president since I've been alive. Except for that one time when we got approval from Congress to go to war against Iraq and Afghanistan, we just went into all kinds of places, so it doesn't matter whether they give permission or not, it's a crapshoot. But the idea is to catch him!

34:09 Catch him doing it the next time he kills some evil guy. We're then we're done. We're odd and we're gonna impeach him again Here's Jackie Speer who is from California on CNN Are you blaming the president in any way for the fact that it appears that Iran shot down that jetliner? No, but I am saying that but for the escalation in the actions taken by Iran, there would not be a hundred and seventy six people dead today. It all emanates from the killing of Soleimani. Well again, the administration would say that Soleimani... What's interesting here is the CNN host is really trying to

34:49 explain to her, the viewer, or I don't know, that well hold on a second you know it really was the Iranians who shot something off and apparently it hit the plane. I mean that's it really is them and I think he's not doing it to say lighten up on the president. I think he's doing it to allow her to continuously say yeah but if he hadn't gotten up in the morning If none of this would happen, if he wasn't president, none of this would happen. Well again, the administration would say that Soleimani himself was plotting attacks on Americans, so the attack on Soleimani itself emanates from Soleimani. But just to be clear, it was Iran that shot down, apparently, that jet. What culpability do they have?

35:31 How do you think they should be held to account? Certainly it needs to be looked at from many perspectives. I mean, if it was accidental, that certainly needs to be taken into account as well. But we need to remember how this all started. This Trump was born. That's how it started. As started from the time the president of the United States reneged on reneged. Isn't it reneged? I've heard it pronounced both ways. I kind of remember that conversation. This has started from the time the President of the United States

36:08 They didn't call it a terrorist organization. It was designated as such. I'm not sure if that needs congressional approval, but it was a quite a conversation and yes, then they were they were designated not necessarily by the president. Called the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. He keeps ramping it up and the result is that they respond. We should be at the negotiating table trying to develop a plan for peace, trying to develop a new JCPOA if necessary with

36:54 the president's imprimatur on it, so that we don't have Iran building nuclear weapons. But what generated them shooting missiles in the air was the fact that they were providing vengeance, or a tit-for-tat, to the United States for having killed their general. Let's look at it from the other... She's shameless. Yeah, well and the Republicans were out in mass too, in particular Mike Pompeo. Let's remember that he is also a former spook and he knows a lot and he's been involved in a lot. And he's been the guy that's been wanting to kill this guy for a decade.

37:36 So they played a clip of his while talking to watermelon head John Kerry on CNN. On the JCPOA, you know when you were watching President Trump earlier this week there standing at the White House he said it was the Obama administration who essentially paid for those Iranian missiles that were aimed at Americans and then your successor Mike Pompeo was asked about that and about you on Fox News and this is what he said. Stop, stop, stop, stop. She has this is what Brooke yeah, Brooke Brooke. She has the same cadence even though she steps up to speed a little bit as Jackie Speier did which indicates to me. They're all in the same milieu. Oh, they probably go to lunch together Definitely they sound almost identical in the way in their cadence. Yeah, they do

38:25 I'm sorry go now. It's okay. Well, and and by the way, Trump did start this this political part which Pompeo was propagating They had the resources they had the ability to build out the militias in Syria to underwrite Hezbollah to build their missile program all the things that we are now confronting our direct result of the resources that the regime had available as a result of result of that terrible nuclear war. By the way, John Kerry admitted back in 2016 that this could be an eventuality with the money being used. So he already spilled the beans on that a couple of years ago. He knew that risk and it's now come to fruition. So I don't know about John Kerry knowing anything previously, but there you go. Bunch of chicken shit hawks out there. Well, you know, if Obama hadn't given all that cash, the pallets of cash, this wouldn't have happened. Oh, please.

39:13 If Obama wasn't born it wouldn't have happened. It's disgusting. I'm not gonna play Kerry's clip because we have a rule about that. Anyway, so now... Oh, you know what? I'm glad that you are biting by it. One of our producers, Leela Puke, did an end of show mix which had another Another one of those talking points, everyone's saying it. Now he didn't send me the source material. I could not find the source material. As far as I know, it's not a super cuts. So I'm just gonna, I'll play the full thing at the end of the show. Obviously, I just want you to hear another meme that was out there that he expertly put together in this end of show mix. Our missiles are big, powerful, accurate, lethal and fast.

40:08 Brand new information! It was not a scintilla of evidence presented to justify the so-called imminent threat. There's no clear evidence of an imminent threat. You can't have two stories. You can't say that something was imminent when it was not. There was no evidence of an imminent and specific threat. Transparently lying about an imminent threat. This administration has not made the case that there was an imminent threat. They did not show us that they were dealing with an imminent threat. I saw no evidence of that whatsoever. The president puts his interests above America's interests. Imminent threat.

40:49 Imminent threat. Okay, so you get the idea. Imminent threat. This is what was lacking. And this is where Gates, who you played a clip from earlier, strayed from the Republican Party and said, you know, yeah, I think I'm gonna be on board with the War Powers Resolution, which is easy for him to do because it's the same as what's already on the books. It's just kind of a confirmation. So, imminent threat is, there was a lack of imminent threat. He just went off crazy, unhinged. You heard the talking points from the ambassador there. Unhinged, crazy, imminent, there was no imminent threat. What are you doing? Just probably to, probably just to distract from the impeachment. But it really does- Which is a talking point that I think I have a clip on this. Okay.

41:39 Let's see where I said I didn't think about you jump me you got me caught me on my flat footed and I've really done a poor job of naming the clips today so I can not find anything. Okay. Yeah. But I do have it, but I don't I can't find it. Never mind. Just It would be here it is Colonel Wilkerson on Iran and impeachment. I think that would be the one December 17th 1998 the front page banner headline read impeachment vote in-house delayed as Clinton launches Iraq airstrike citing military need to move swiftly Colonel Wilkerson, can you respond?

42:25 For 15 years, Amy, I've taught this to over 400 students on two campuses. National security decision-making is what it's called. One of the influences I emphasize is domestic politics. I would be a traitor to the academic curriculum which I teach. I would be a traitor to the truth if I didn't say, of course, that had something to do with it. And watch out because there will be more because there will be more impeachment. More impeachment, more of the time! You might as well play the second half of that clip, which is final words. This is Wilkerson going off. Any final words, Colonel Wilkerson, as we move into this very critical period with President Trump saying if Iran responds to the U.S. assassination of one of their leaders, that the U.S. will hit 52 sites, including cultural institutions,

43:27 which is, by the way, considered a war crime. 52 for the 52... Oh yes, war criminal. I'm sorry. That's really... We need to take him to the criminal court in The Hague. That's where Trump belongs. Which is, by the way, considered a war crime. 52 for the 52 hostages Iran took more than 40 years ago. If that were the case, and we actually executed such a package, we would solidify 80 million people in a way that for the next 30 years would cost the lives of countless Americans, business people, tourists, and so forth throughout the region and perhaps throughout the world. I know what the packages look like for bombing Iran. Okay.

44:21 Well, let's just move quickly through the facts and then we'll deconstruct what probably was going on here. So now we know that, well, here's Trump actually. I thought that was kind of a cute clip. But somebody could have made a mistake on the other side, could have made a mistake. It was flying in, not our system, it has nothing to do with us. It was flying in a pretty rough neighborhood. And somebody... Hey man, that's what you get for flying in a rough neighborhood, man. You shouldn't be flying in rough neighborhoods at 8,000 feet. Pretty rough neighborhood.

44:58 and somebody could have made a mistake. Some people say it was mechanical. I personally don't think that's even a question, personally. And then we have, of course, Trudeau. We have intelligence from multiple sources, including our allies and our... Was this after it was already in the news that he says, we have intelligence? Or did he actually know this? I think this was just before, but that particular clip intrigued me for some other reason, which is When did Trudeau decide to wear a kind of a goatee? Like an evil guy's goatee. He looks like the bad guy in one of these movies. Yeah, he's roughing himself up. Who is this? Getting ready for war, baby. We have intelligence from multiple sources, including our allies and our own intelligence. The evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile. This may well have been unintentional.

46:01 Mm-hmm may well have been let's see Always of interest when these things happen who was on the aircraft today's grief all consuming at so many of Canada's universities Here at Western Memorial to promising students, their futures robbed. It's very hard. Masoud Zachary lost his friend, Hadas Hayat Davoudi, a PhD student. We all hoping that she lost the plane. And when we saw the official name, the official list of names, all hopes Students from more than 10 Canadian universities died in the crash. Driven by troubled politics with the US and Canada's academic reputation, this country is a popular destination for Iranian students. Does Canada have a reputation for their education? They have a couple of really outstanding colleges, yeah. I got a note from one of our knights... McGill's being one of them.

47:07 One of our knights who is an intelligence analyst, I do not know where, but he asked me to keep his identity anonymous in this case. I'll read his note, it's short. It's coming out that the Canadians and a few Russians on the Ukrainian plane shot down were primarily scientists and engineers working in Iranian nuclear plants. Fearful that those plants could be US drone targets the scientists decided to leave as a group So no one would be held hostage until the conflict was over because they knew the plans and operations of the Iran nuclear program They could be debriefed. So Iran told the scientists they would be moved to safety but warned They would not be allowed to leave Iran. They did not listen now. I don't know if that's true, but that would certainly

47:57 give a reason for the Iranians to purposefully target that aircraft. It's fanciful, you know, it sounds great for the movie. I don't know if that's... Sounds good for the movie? It's like Tom Clancy type thing? Totally, totally. It really doesn't matter because the administration, the president, everybody knows one thing in the legendary words of Rahm Emanuel, never let a crisis go to waste. Immediately we're trying to get shit started in Iran, which is the whole point. The point is you need to have an uprising for regime change. So the president tweeted in Farsi,

48:42 which also had a translation but he tweeted in Farsi, to the brave long-suffering people of Iran I've stood with you since the beginning of my presidency and my administration will continue to stand with you. We are following your protests closely and are inspired by your courage. Facebook is now being, not just Facebook, Twitter, but I think Facebook's the main one, Iranian journalists, Russian journalists of course, but I think some in the US possibly, are demanding an end of Iranian censorship of Iranian media on Instagram and Facebook. According to RT, Facebook thought police is censoring pro-Iran

49:35 posts to comply with US sanctions. I'm not sure about that, but I'm damn sure that intelligence services are inside of Facebook and making sure that we don't see anything that we don't want to. What we want is people protesting against the regime. We want flags. We want some signs. We want banners. It's full on. It's full on. They're really trying to spark it up now. Right down to the ambassador from the United Kingdom standing out there. Oh, why is this? Is this not going to play now all of a sudden? Let's see if it plays like this. Oh crap. One of my clips is broken. Damn it, it was a good one too. The ambassador to the UK.

50:25 was arrested at an anti-regime protest, which of course is played off as, ah, it was a mistake, I thought it was a vigil, I was there for five minutes, and then I left, and they detained me, or they arrested me, and we figured it out. No. This is full on. This is the idea. We need protests, we need images of protests, we need Facebook and Instagram protests, nothing else. And I think they're going to do it. They may just pull it off. I'm looking, I recall the last show or two, I mentioned that most of these, not the majority, but there was a lot of Canadians killed in the crash. And I'm just relating back to what your spook informant may have said. Well, they were connected to the University of Alberta. A lot of students and I guess some professors.

51:24 And based on what he said, so I look up University of Alberta nuclear facilities. They have a system, the University of Alberta is one of the nuke places. They have Slowpoke, a nuclear reactor facility. They do a bunch of, they do nuclear tide productions, they do neutron activation analysis, they do all these high-end in the middle of nowhere at the University of Alberta, they do these, this is, it is a center of research. And there was a story that I can't find. So it makes sense what he said based on this if we're going to put two and two together. Well that's obviously one way we could look at it and I'm pretty sure from the evidence that we have and also how many of these things are out there and the similarities between the 19

52:18 from 1989 downing of an Iranian jetliner that we took responsibility for, which was done with a man pad with a stinger missile, shoulder fired. Those things are pretty good. No, it wasn't. It was done off of a ship by one of the surface to air missiles. From, yes, it was a stinger on a ship. I looked it up. A stinger on a ship? Yep, it was a surface-to-air missile. How can that be an accident? It wasn't! It wasn't an accident. It was an accident that they targeted that. They were confused. It was confusion. It wasn't purposeful. So they say, who the hell knows? But I like the theory that the Iranians were so afraid that they killed all the scientists

53:09 I mean, I don't like it, but you know, here's a little tip for people trying to escape. So they all got on the plane together, not thinking, you know, about the possibility of them all getting killed at once. One of them, a couple of them should have stayed back and then snuck out of the, taking a train out of town. I mean, there's other ways to leave, it seems to me. Yeah, I think one or two missed the flight. And so there's been some stories about that. Now, could we Conversely, let's just say that's all coincidence. It happens to be nuclear students, scientists, studying scientists. Although there was a report that I did not clip where someone said, that girl was a PhD in disguise, meaning that she was incredibly smart. But there you go. It's said.

54:00 It could also have been that we wanted, and although a very risky and very evil scenario, let's just take it as a possibility, that they spoofed the transponder, made it look like something else. We discussed this as a possibility just to get the Iranians to shoot it down and then to say, ah, exactly what's happening now. I mean, the result is the same. It really doesn't matter who did it or why they did it. The result is it happened and now we see report after report filtered expertly, filtered expertly because if you look around outside of the bag, face bag and the twatters, you'll see that there's, you know, it's from all sides. There's all kinds of things going on in Iran. It's not just anti-regime, but that's what we're going to see.

54:46 Well, let's stop for a second and also reflect on a couple of other incidents that took place and this was from an Israeli intelligence and this took place a number of years ago where the a couple of very famous Iranian nuclear scientists were were assassinated in the streets one by a guy in a motorcycle Right, I remember that yeah, that's not that long ago even Yeah, and this was attributed by some people, I think Ray McGovern was one of them, to Mossad. And so Mossad could have actually been involved because they're pretty good about staying out of the limelight.

55:25 If there was a transponder swap out or some sort of a spoof, I don't think it would be anything that we'd ever do, to be honest about it, in this regard, because we don't care about these scientists. Who cares about those scientists? No, no, no, not the scientists, but just to have civilians killed, painted on Iran, and then get protest started. I'm just looking at it as an opportunity. I think that's minor compared to the realities of trying to get rid of these scientists. Clip from 2012. The families for five Iranian nuclear scientists say Israel, Great Britain and the US assassinated their loved ones. Those families are now asking Iran's legal system to pursue their complaint through international courts.

56:08 Iran claims the attacks were part of a covert mission by Israel and the West to sabotage its nuclear program. The US and Britain have denied any involvement in the murders. Israel has not commented on the matter. I just want to say that there is no other media property that I'm aware of that on the fly can talk about something that one host who clearly should never be able to recall these things has the longest memory in history remembers it and production fires off the clip within seconds. Please appreciate that as producers. Applause, applause. Please clap. Please clap.

56:51 Well, I'm glad you found that clip. But the point is that it seems to me if we're going to go in that direction, it would be Mossad that would be wanting to get rid of these guys. Because it does put a kind of a chink in the armor of the program. Just saying, but this University of Alberta thing, it kind of has me like, whoa. Well, our intelligence analysts said this, you know, so. So that hasn't come up in the conversation on CNN. It would be useful for at least one of these outfits. I think they could use that. I think they could throw that in the mix. But I'm not so sure. And by the way, corporate interests don't want to hear about it. Right.

57:43 Sorry, well we're waiting for the the revolution and I think the signs are being printed The flags are being ironed and we'll get everything over there lickety split and we'll load everybody up But we did it with Hong Kong This should be no problem at all to just redirect the team and send them over to Tehran Or any other handy place where we can get some cameras in and it'll be good to go. Yeah We'll see Well, just look at the headlines. Let's do a test. I will go to the news.google.com, which doesn't even auto-complete on my computer since I don't use Google. Top of the list, boom. Thousands of Iranian protesters hit streets condemning leaders over downed plane. I didn't search for Iran or anything. I just went to Google News and that is the top headline.

58:43 The ones below. Führer in Iran and abroad. Iran faces growing criticism at home. That's the main one. So CNN is all over it. They're pushing the... They're pushing what they're told to push. Well, of course. And that's the thousands of protesters. We need more, but that's a good start. All right. And just to show you that we have our eye on the ball while all of this was taking place, while we were all looking at Iran,

59:22 Israel turned on their pipeline and liquid gas is now flowing from the Leviathan fields, actually I think the Tamarin fields which is part of that but right next door off the coast, now flowing into Israel and they will become a energy producer for the first time in their history. And I'm sure Bill Clinton is very happy because this is Nobel Energy. Well, it's interesting actually. I wonder if our producer is still invested in Nobel Energy. Do you remember he was, he started investing it, oh, well, it looks like it went up to 22. Last time I looked it was $8.

1:00:11 Ah, you should have bought. What do I know? I'm a dope. I don't know any of this. I never pay any attention to this stuff. Yeah, so everything's good. No one pay attention to what's happening over there and they have their deals with Greece and Cyprus and they're going to be selling that to Europe. So it all ratchets up and hopefully we get the hell out of the way. And with that, I'd like I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who literally put the sea in the chink in the armor. John C. Devorak! In the morning to you Mr. Anna Curry also in the morning all ships of sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. Hey trolls in the morning to you all hanging out there trolling away at noagendastream.com let me see how many trolls we got on a day like this this is

1:01:02 It's a Sunday. People want to hear some analysis and very nice. 1,270 y'all trolls. Welcome. Noah, Jenna stream.com is where you can hang out during live show days. There's a lot of live shows on Noah gender stream. They're all podcasts. You can kind of. Sample and then go back and you know subscribe we have links to the gitmo list which ones are on the stream And it's some fun people hanging out there. They may look a little weird because hey they're trolls no agenda stream calm and a big in the morning to the artist for episode 1206 we titled it tolerized and

1:01:41 A new word, a new Trumpism. And the artwork was Darren O'Neill. It was his first win, I think, of the New Year. He was very excited and rightfully so. And again, we're in this popping mode where we just look at the art and if it pops, it has a leg up. And this was the New Coke Bro, now with Soros, kind of a take off on the Coca-Cola New Coke. Yeah, and we both liked it. It made sense immediately. There was actually was a lot of art. Let me see. It was something else I thought I liked. What were you looking at? I don't really remember. I mean a lot of people, you know, like did the toilet roll robot? No. Stuff with small words. You've got to look at it objectively people. You've got to, it's got to pop off the page. We're looking at 25 pieces. Boom.

1:02:40 You know, you see it, you see it immediately. Well, thank you, Darren. We really appreciate it. And I just can't thank Darren O'Neill enough. I mean, he does our pre-shows, the pre-stream before every single show gets everyone all riled up. Playing a lot of Rush this morning, of course. Neil Peart died from Rush. I was never a Rush fan. I don't know about you, John. I never liked Rush ever. No. But on the same day- Well, they're progressive rock. There was a progressive rock and actually Nick was a musician, explained probably why I didn't like it. Peart. Peart, Peart, Peart. I'm sorry, Peart. Peart. I said it wrong. He had, he says Rush was probably one of the greatest progressive rock bands. It's a very specific style of rock and roll that does not appeal to everybody. No, it never appealed to me either.

1:03:33 But I do know how people are affected by this. They were really, a lot of sadness. Russia's Canada's band. Sadly on the same day Rick Kelman who was my first friend in New York and the longtime audio engineer at MTV, he passed away in his sleep. Which I was a shocker. You know this was like, I don't know, it's like shit, Kelman really? Sucked how old was he Rick? He couldn't have been over 60. I think it was probably it was probably 59 60 Yikes yeah, well he'd been through some some Challenging times, but we kept in contact anyway

1:04:21 Sorry onward with yes Enough of the dead seg show 12 show we need a little music to play we do some No, it has to be something you are the wind beneath my wings All right, let's thank some folks. All right anonymous starts us off with New York City to $2,020 Wow he's done a year number of Yeah, shoo nice thousand twenty for the year 2020 and that is Appreciated because yes, very much. This is very short today. Happy New Year. Congratulations on 12 1200 looking to the next 12 years Episode 1206 had me laughing out loud with your CES coverage you know a lot of people gave us feedback on that and said they really really liked it and

1:05:20 I had no idea that mocking CES coverage would be better than the CES coverage itself. Hey, I made a career out of this. I do have two quick products announced at CES. headline donation segment no I'm just gonna do it right now it's just it's just two two quick headlines I built my own glamorous vibrator at CES and it has no self-respect and it was magical and And then Roomba, and this was all over the news, Roomba's makers future robot will have arms made do dishes. Oh my god, they've invented a washing machine, a dishwasher no less. Crazy! Roomba, I hate that company. You hate the company? You like actually hate the spies? Yeah, yeah. I've said this on the show before, I bitch and moan about Roomba all the time. I robot. I robot. Remind us.

1:06:22 They had me thrown out of an event because I snuck in early to get some scoops on stuff and they busted me and they... Security comes in and drags me out and I said, who the hell, what was that all about? He said, I said, who turned me in? And they said Roomba, the Roomba people. Then Roomba are narcs. And I was doing this, I was actually interviewing one of their people at the time and I was gonna give him some good coverage. Well, no. It makes total sense. That is the culture within the company and that's why it's the same room but people who were mapping your house and selling the data. You should get rid of those. NARCs.

1:07:07 And I never got an apology. I bitch and moan about this and I told, oh, I know the CEO of this company. Well, why don't you tell him what a jerk the company is to do this? And they, nothing, got nothing. I've been, by the way, this has been going on for years. I've been complaining. Hey, can I give up? You think I get a note from the public relations department? No, no, no, no, no. Can I give Anonymous a karma because I think it's very karma worthy. Literally gave us the karma we needed today. Short list. Yeah, very short list. You've got karma. You know what? And I'm worried about it because what CNN already knows we might have to figure out. People are tired. They don't want to hear it anymore. They want to hear about... That's why I led off today with Harry and Megxit.

1:10:26 the range is all over the map of what people what kind of value people take away from this show and all we ask is if you have experienced any value return it to us put it in into a number and Go to the following website to support the program to vorac.org slash and a pretty sure you know more than most about what's going on in Iran and the prince our formula is this we go out and We hit people in the mouth. I have a stink bug update. Oh, stink bug. Do we need a jingle for the stink bug? We probably do. Because I'm going to keep these updates going because I think this is maybe something up with these stink bugs. Before you start, we had research pest control. They come by quarterly here to spray and check and make sure because we live in Texas. And I asked the guy about stink marmorated stink bugs. He says no.

1:11:40 Very, very few would you see in Texas. He says, but if you see one and it has an orange rim on its back, he says immediately back away and call a professional. Those can apparently kill you. What? Yes. The stink bug that has an orange rim on its shell are apparently... What's it called? The deadly bug. The deadly... He didn't give me any... An orange rim bug. So we just call it the Trump bug. Yeah, apparently... I didn't know you were... You sure that guy was just putting you on? No, no I don't think so. Well you go ahead with your update and I will look it up.

1:12:24 It's terrible. All right, well anyway, this past Sunday, this comes in from one of our regular producers, Glenn Edward. This past, it was Saturday morning, I spotted, unfortunately, I don't remember where he's from, so this is kind of, he doesn't put it in here. I spotted a marmaladed, he put marmaladed. That would be the orange one. Perched on my bathroom sink faucet, possibly resting after getting a drink. I keep the house pretty dry, but never lower than 33% humidity. Details we don't need. This is the first stink bug I've seen in a few years that managed to get into the house. So I assume with this rare appearance and with your last show's report, their numbers have jumped. This one must have been near the edge of the back porch, and he goes on about that.

1:13:14 I grabbed one by the legs with tweezers and escorted it outside where it came from. It did not like that. I would suggest using an empty pill bottle in the future to trap them inside. I just have to work out a sliding flap. I don't understand why nobody makes bug removing tools for the home. They're cheap enough to sell to dollar stores. I'm frequently trapped some crawling things off the wall to take outside rather than smashing it into the paint job. The stink bug presents a unique problem. They will stink if you squish them. And they take flight when provoked enough. So it's a kind of a beetle, I guess. But they're slow. Apparently they're quite slow. But they're slow enough to capture when they're just crawling. You can't see them against the most woodwork or anything else that's dark. But they show up against anything else. They perch on and they could be inside your home for days before you spot them. When they do fly,

1:14:14 They're about the loudest bug I've ever heard. It must be how their wings whip the air. They don't bite or sting, just annoy. Cats will probably play with them, but nothing wants to eat them. Okay, so there you go. I have an update. The orange-rimmed stink bug is actually known as a kissing bug. Currently found so far in Tennessee and Georgia It is not a it is not the stink bug looks very similar to it. It does have orange rim and You do not want to touch these or try and catch them because this has Chagas disease Chagas and can be fatal if left untreated they feed on the blood of mammals including humans and dogs and

1:15:11 So it's a form of a tick? Yeah, only it looks like a stink bug. It's ticks. Yeah. We need more chickens. This country was filled with chickens. We wouldn't have any of these problems. Yeah. When you go to Slovenia, I should say, the whole country is filled with chickens. They're all over the place. Unfortunately, we have a lot of raccoons and other critters here that would like to eat these chickens. But most chickens, if you have a roosting place, you can they'll go back into their roost and you can close it up for the night. Anyway, amidst all of the

1:15:51 possible regime change, Orange Man bad. We have news from Venezuela and I was, I got this from a podcast, believe it or not. The podcaster's name is Ania Parampil, Parampil, I believe she may be from Venezuela. Apparently Juan Guaidó's presidency is over, he's been replaced and no one heard about it. And the report is fantastic. Guaido had hoped to extend his reign beyond the legally mandated year-long term limit. However, after it became clear that he did not have enough votes to win, the rookie politician actually attempted to jump the fence surrounding Venezuela's legislature in order to make it appear as though the government had prevented him from entering.

1:16:51 Guido could have entered the building through the front door as other Dictators did. The video of him trying to jump over the fence, you know, it basically looks like Obama in a blue suit trying to jump over the fence, but he could have just gone in the front door, but that wouldn't have been the right visual, you see. One opposition lawmaker told reporters most were able to enter without incident, yet Guido repeatedly attempted to enter the building alongside lawmakers who had been banned from the National Assembly over their alleged involvement in criminal activity. Luis Parra, who was elected as the new president of the National Assembly, claims Guaidó staged the incident because he did not have enough votes to win. U.S.-backed Venezuelan coup officials, such as Guaidó's so-called ambassador to Washington, Carlos Vecchio, shared video of the day's events,

1:17:42 claiming it depicted a valiant Guaido overcoming government repression. US acting Undersecretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs, Michael Kozak, tweeted shortly after the melee claiming, quote, Juan Guaido remains Venezuela's interim president under its constitution. This morning's phony National Assembly session lacked a legal quorum. There was no vote. Yet at least 140 out of Venezuela's 167 legislators were present at the meeting, well above the 50% required for a legal quorum. 81 of them voted to install Parra, a legislator from the US-backed Primero Justicia party, as president of the National Assembly, officially putting Guaido's rule to an end. Still, Guaido held his own swearing-in ceremony at the offices of El Nacional, an opposition-owned newspaper, in order to keep up appearances.

1:18:35 Considering the US has cited his control of Venezuela's National Assembly as the legal justification for its recognition of Guaido as president of the entire country, these developments are perhaps the most fatal blow dealt to the Trump administration's coup policy to date. Yeah, fail and then it's so bad that the guy's got to pretend to look like, oh I'm a hero, I'm standing up against the oppressors, I'm jumping over the fence. And they just voted in a different guy and then he said no no no that's not fair and he went back to his own casa and did his own swearing-in ceremony. No, I'm still the guy. This is sad.

1:19:15 I mean did really comedic did Pompeo just abandoned the guy I mean did Bolton abandoned the guy cut it what? The guy didn't cut it. He probably was a Bolton guy. I know, but what is this pathetic trying? This is really... Well, the new guy, the new guy is an American backed political party. He's also a spook. He's another spook. He's a different guy. So yes, clearly we said, all right, we got to get this guy in because that old guy, I mean, I guess the Obama look is not working anymore. Have we seen the new guy? Do we know what the new guy looks like? What's his name? Rioux. She mentioned it. Rioux. Let me see. Venezuela.

1:19:53 New Presidente, I think you have to put the E at the end for Presidente. Does it even say? It's not even showing up. What's your search criteria? New President. Well that would be it, New President Venezuela. Yeah, I tried that. Let me see, maybe I'll have to go to the Google News again, see if they've got anything. Listen to the headlines. This is interesting. Washington Post, Guaido, opposition lawmakers defy security forces, burst into Venezuela's National Assembly. We just heard a woman who's there, who says that didn't happen. Los Angeles Times, Venezuela opposition leader Juan Guaido takes new oath amid chaos. Wow! They won't even go with the new guy.

1:20:50 That's crazy. Well, now we this is dual to me. We're witnessing dueling intelligence agencies. Yes. And my guess is the one that's causing the trouble and all the contradictions. And I don't know who's pushing whose buttons in these newspapers, but obviously they're hooked up to somebody. Is that is that little State Department Intel agency, that little mysterious one that's always getting in the way? and causing trouble. Yes, because I'm reading here that Elliot Abrams, the US representative for Venezuela, now we know Elliot Abrams, he's a real bad actor. Yeah. He welcomed the re-election of Guaido. Abrams said US officials remain undaunted and will continue to put economic pressure on the Maduro government through additional sanctions. And in this whole

1:21:45 Report and I'm reading Wall Street Journal and Los Angeles Times does not a mention of the guy who was sworn in. No, we're not looking at the even the Venezuelan presidential crisis on Wikipedia, which is kept up today has not got a mention. So this is really a. This is just unbelievable. I mean our news media is just totally corrupt. It's not worth it. It's just not. Wow. Well thank God for Anja Parampil. She's Russian. Okay, whatever. Russians are running a game. Anyway, I thought that was... The information is terrible. Even Amy hasn't gotten anything good. They're not trying. They're not trying. They just aren't trying. Well, we know the Chinese, the Russians, and us all want that oil field.

1:22:49 Yes, possibly the biggest in the Western Hemisphere. Yes, so we got three big superpowers We're the closest to it. We should have it by default Hey man, should be actually that was it was an interesting just going back to Iran for a second the Iraqi Prime Minister claimed that Trump threatened false flag attacks on protesters if he didn't accept the oil deals. Remember Trump said we got the oil we got the oil and that we were demanding 50% of the oil? Yeah. Just this is all unverified. Oh it's just a data point I'm just throwing it in there just what it is.

1:23:33 All right, well let's go to the upcoming debate rundown. This is debate rundown. This is for Tuesday. Ah, very good. And this will be on, it's going to be on CNN? Who's hosting it this time? I believe so. I believe so. In election news, six presidential candidates, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Joe Biden and Tom Steyer will take to the stage for the final Democratic debate before the Iowa caucus. It will happen in Des Moines next Tuesday. All the candidates on stage will be white, after New Jersey Senator Cory Booker and entrepreneur Andrew Yang did not qualify for the debate. Billionaire Tom Steyer qualified after pouring more than $115 million of his own money into his campaign. Billionaire former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg did not qualify for the debate, despite spending nearly $170 million of his own money on ads.

1:24:25 I picked up a report from Rachel that I wanted to share. We don't play much Rachel Maddow on this show because well and I did cut out almost every pause and every eye roll and neck stretch and all the things she does just to chop it down to under two minutes. But this was hilarious in context of her hating all Republicans, her hating everything that is not the Democrat Party, it being MSNBC, and now we have these two billionaires, Tom Steyer and Michael Bloomberg, who are

1:25:00 messing it all up. Last night, Tom Steyer officially qualified for the next Democratic candidates debate, which will be in Iowa next week. The deadline to qualify is today and he has made it. In the days leading up to today's deadline, it really didn't seem like Tom Steyer was going to make it onto that debate stage. He was in low single digits in most national and statewide polls. He needed better numbers in at least two polls. But then last night, last minute, almost out of nowhere, he came in really close to the top of the polls in two early states. Polling third, tied with Elizabeth Warren for third in Nevada. I guess we should just point out just to reiterate that the

1:25:42 election debate committee, which used to be the Women League of Voters who quit in disgust, have determined that for the primary, and I think it's more the DNC, that you have to have certain qualifications to even appear on the debate stage. And you're seeing the results where apparently, you know, you can pop ahead real easy. At a whopping 12 percent, double digits, right? 12 percent tied for third. And look at this. Do you think that she sits there in her office and is pouring over each new poll?

1:26:31 I need to get to the bottom of these stats and information and it's yes isn't it just like a simple question and it's just polling I mean don't don't just look at the results is there stuff to pour over for politics geeks right for those of us who pour over each new poll a surprise but if But if you are a TV watcher in the great state of South Carolina or the great state of Nevada, it was probably less surprising to you. Because check this out. Along with the fresh numbers we got today on total ad spending for all the candidates, we also got a breakdown of what the candidates are spending by state. And it makes the puzzle.

1:27:06 kind of easy to solve. All right, so far the candidates combined have spent $17 million on political ads just in the state of South Carolina. Okay? $17 million in TV and radio ads, South Carolina alone. Here's how you solve the puzzle. Of that $17 million spent in South Carolina, $14 million of it was spent by Tom Steyer. Oh, that's how it works. That, by the way, is the ISO. Tom Steyer has spent more on ads in South Carolina than Pete Buttigieg or Bernie Sanders has spent on ads nationwide for their entire campaign. Same thing in Nevada, the other state that helped deliver Tom Steyer a surprise spot on the debate stage.

1:27:45 So far there have been $11.6 million in total spent on political ads in Nevada by everybody. Of that $11.6 million total spent on Nevada ads, $10.4 million of that spent by Tom Steyer. His Nevada-only ad spending is more than all of the ad spending by Biden, Warren, and Klobuchar combined nationwide. Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice? Yes, as it turns out... Oh, and she's so shocked by this, and it's a revelation to her. It turns out that douchebag billionaires can buy your election too. This is how we vote in America, the same way we buy our washing powder.

1:28:29 You see a lot of ads on TV and go, okay, unless, but, Tide. Tide, Steyer, Tide sounds the same, whatever. This must be driving people insane. I mean, especially since we're dealing with the billionaire class, which is the Democrat party. Hello. Here's the ISO for end of show I was considering. Oh, that's how it works. Perfect. I think it's dynamite. Yeah. I sewed it myself before the show, knowing you'd like it that much. So now we have a situation with all these guys, these rich guys running and there's a and there and this coincidentally, the Netflix special, The Great Hack.

1:29:16 has arrived and it tells the story of Cambridge Analytics and how Trump won. Let me stop you. Two things. One, I think it's been out for a couple weeks. Two, it's Cambridge Analytica. Yeah. Okay. You're right. It's been out for a couple weeks and it's Cambridge Analytica. Got it. Now, so they had the producers and they had the co-directors and then some other woman Her name is Brittany Kaiser, who's a whistleblower that worked for Cambridge. And they had him on an Amy show. And there were some revelations in there that I thought may would be worth discussing because they do apply to what's going on with these elections. There were psychologists that were looking into it. Sorry, I thought there was a very clear pause and lead up. And I jumped. I was getting my glasses. I would say

1:30:12 The one you want to play for just three clips is the Brittany Kaiser Cambridge is the Brittany on Crooked Hillary and there's the complaining co-director. Okay, which are the three clips. Okay, you're going to play the probably you probably were playing the right clip, which is let's play Brittany Kaiser on Cambridge. There were groups of psychologists that were looking into how they could understand that data and convert that into messaging that was just for you. I need to remind everybody that the Trump campaign put together over a million different advertisements that were put out. A million different advertisements with tens of thousands of different campaigns. Some of these messages were for just you, were for 50 people, 100 people. Obviously, certain groups are thousands, tens of thousands or millions, but some of them were targeted very much directly at

1:31:01 the individual to know exactly what you're going to click on and exactly what you care about. She wrote the book Targeted and she's moaning and groaning. And she was working for Cambridge and she was aghast by everything. But she was apparently so predisposed to being aghast by everything that they, there was an event where they invited Ann Coulter to talk to them about something rather. And instead of sticking around, which I would do, even if I was a Democrat,

1:31:40 No, no, no. She felt she had the need to bug out so she didn't have to hear whatever evil words Ann might plant into her brain. I can't, I'm looking at bingit.io, I'm trying to see if I put it in show notes. Someone did an analysis, I think it was a Facebook person, maybe And the analogy, I'm just paraphrasing, I'll have to find it, was saying that in actuality Cambridge Analytica was really shit, is really not good at what they do. have not done anything spectacular beyond what any other basic advertising targeting does, but it still was the... I think this article said, you know, it was Brad Parscale who figured out what the messages should be, but it wasn't, you know, as highly targeted and sophisticated or

1:32:33 even as good as people make Cambridge Analytica out to be. Now I have to find this, but I believe it. I'm not gonna argue that point. I think this is going on constantly with everybody that's in the business of doing this sort of analysis and Cambridge Analytica just for some reason, I think it had something to do with Brexit to be honest about it, got singled out. So I agree with this, it's bull crap. But let's listen to some of the stuff they did do that was funny. Now this is Brittany again. on the Crooked Hillary campaign. This is fascinating. Can you talk about the Crooked Hillary campaign and how it developed? Absolutely. So this started as a super PAC that was built for Ted Cruz, Keep the Promise One, which was run by Kellyanne Conway and funded by the Mercer's. That was then... Hold on. She worked at Cambridge Analytica? Yes. This Brittany? Brittany. She's talking like a pundit.

1:33:30 I mean she's not talking like someone who's being interviewed. But she's on a book tour and so she's picked up. Oh she wrote a book! Okay I got it. It's run by Kellyanne Conway and funded by the Mercer's. That was then converted to becoming a super PAC for Donald Trump. They tried to register with the Federal Election Commission, the name Defeat Crooked Hillary, and the FEC luckily did not allow them to do that. So it was called Make America Number One. This super PAC was headed by David Bossie, someone that you might remember from Citizens United, who basically brought dark money into our politics and allowed... Oh, hold on a second. Dark money? We've never had dark money in our politics before. Nope, never happened. Haven't seen it. No. It's racist, that dark money. No, this is bullshit. But I like it. Brought dark money into our politics and allowed... This was on Democracy Now?

1:34:24 Yeah. Did Amy jump in and say, well, you know, obviously dark money has been in our politics for a long time. I mean, from day one, pretty much. This is a total talking point, this woman. I'm sorry, this is great! Manipulative communications. What do you think? That's what you do. That's all communications are. All marketing is manipulation.

1:35:05 where the money is coming from for these types of manipulative communications. And he was in charge of this campaign. Now, on that two-day-long debrief that I talked about—and if you want to know more, you can read about it in my book—they told us— Wait, and explain where you were and who was in the room. So, I was in New York, in our boardroom for Cambridge Analytica's office on Fifth Avenue, and all of our offices from around the world had called in to videocast. And everybody from the Super PAC and the Trump campaign took us through all of their tactics and strategies and implementation and what they had done.

1:35:41 Now, when we got to this Defeat Crooked Hillary super PAC, they explained to us what they had done, which was to run experiments on psychographic groups to figure out what was working and what wasn't. Unfortunately, what they found out was the only very successful tactic was sending fear-based scaremongering messaging to people that were identified as being neurotic. and it was so successful in their first experiments that they spent the rest of the money from the super PAC over the rest of the campaign only on negative messaging oh no Neurotics. Negative advertising targeting neurotic... I'd say it's a crime almost. That is just evil. Evil, evil, evil. She's flabbergasted by this. These people were neurotic and then you send fear-mongering messages. Whoa. I mean like clear and present danger? The president is a clear and present danger needs to be impeached immediately because who knows?

1:36:39 What he could do you mean like that is that is that we're talking about? Guys unhinged yeah, just bend over here it comes again for you, sir Well deserved Thank you now. We have a couple of others in that same group now. We have the this guy Kareem Amir And he talks, this is the one, let's do the, let's start with this one. This is him, he's the complaining, the clip is complaining co-director. Two people have come forward from Cambridge Analytica. Why is that? Both of the people that have come forward. No wait, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

1:37:16 That's the complaint, that's the other one. That would be the last clip. The clip before that is a little lengthy, but it's more fascinating than anything so far. And it's under the, you have to look it up under L, L Kareem Amir. And he talks about how they did some experiments in Trinidad. No, Cambridge Analytica used brown people to conduct evil experiments? Yes. With data? With data? And they psychologically manipulated them? I can't believe this is going on. What is happening to the world? Well, let's listen to this. This is a very funny story.

1:38:07 expansiveness of Cambridge's work. This went beyond the borders of the United States and even beyond the borders of the EU and the UK, because what we find is that, you know, Cambridge used the—in pursuing this global influence industry that they were very much a part of, they used different countries as petri dishes to learn and get the know-how about different tactics. And from improving those tactics, they could then sell them for a higher cost higher margin in western democracies where the election budgets are you know you have to remember i think it's important to predicate that the election business has become multi-billion dollar global business right so we have to remember that while we are upset with companies like cambridge

1:38:52 We allowed for the commoditization of our democratic process, right? So people are exploiting this now because it's become a business. And we, as purveyors of this, can't really be as upset as we want to be when we've justified that. So I want to preface it with that. Now, that being said, what's happened as a result is A company like Cambridge can practice tactics in a place like Trinidad that's very unregulated in terms of what they can and can't do, learn from that know-how, and then, you know, use it, parlay it into activities in the United States. What they did in Trinidad, and why it was important for us to show it in the film, is they led something called the Do So campaign, where they admit to making it cool and popular among youth to get out and not vote.

1:39:40 And they knew— So, you had the Indian population and the black population. And the black population. And there's a lot of historic tension between those two, and a lot of generational differences, as well, between those two. And the DoSo campaign targeted—was done in a way to—you know, by looking at the data and looking at the predictive analysis of which group would vote or not vote, get enough people to dissuade them from voting so that they could flip the election. Targeted at? Targeted at the youth. And so this is really when you want... Do so, actually. Do so, don't vote. Yes, exactly. With their fists crossed. And that it became cool not to vote. Exactly. And then you look at the level of calculation behind this and it's quite frightening. Do these people ever see an advertisement for anything, anywhere in their lives?

1:40:34 Now this guy that was yacking away there, who's one of the co-directors, that guy was a blowhard and every time Amy would ask anybody else anything, he'd jump in before they could start talking. And he liked to hear himself talk. But the other woman, and this is what kind of got my attention, was this particular clip, which is the last clip. And this is the other co-director woman, and she tells the story that is slightly reminiscent. This is the complaining co-director. Only two people have come forward from Cambridge Analytica. Why is that? Both of the people that have come forward, Brittany and Chris, and also with Carol's writing, have been targeted personally. And it's been a very, very difficult story to tell. Even with us, when we released the film in January, every single time we have entered into the country, we have been stopped for four to six hours of questioning at the border.

1:41:29 that stop by stop by on the border of the US and JFK Airport where you're taken into the back asked for all of your social media handles questioned for four to six hours every single time we enter the country since when? since we released the film so since Sundance since January we've every time we've come back into the US and on what grounds are they saying they're stopping you? no explanation yeah it sounds a lot like me no This sounds like the cock and bull story we got from Laura Poitras, if you recall. Oh, yes. She and Scafee were doing something and it was always the same story. It was never the guys telling this story, it's always a woman. And they keep talking about getting pulled over, not

1:42:17 Not like you go way back, but I'm talking about within the recent memory, the woman who's a co-director, producer, whatever, gets pulled over, coming in, she can't say it's TSA, she's kind of confused. Well, it would be Customs Border Patrol, not TSA. Well, somebody pulls them out and then gives them a four-hour conversation, and it seems to me that this is canned. It's the same, Poitras had almost identical story. Now is it possible they're getting pullover? But this was since January. So let's take another look at this. And Poitras, I think, had the same issues. How many times since January of last year, I guess, are they in and out and in and out and in and out of the country? And why?

1:43:05 What is she, the movie's out, you're on the road now. What she's doing is insinuating that, uh, Orange Man Bud has put his SS Cedar Heights police eye on the case and is making sure that she's harassed every single time because you know, get her, we'll get her, get her you whistleblower, you Cambridge Analytica whistleblower, we'll get you, we'll get you. Yeah, I don't believe it. That may be true, I don't know. It might be true, but I don't believe that it's got anything to do with Trump or something else is causing it. And the case with you is a good example, which has turned out to be a reasonably good reason, which was there's a guy with the same name as you that lived somewhere in the northern states. Oklahoma. I thought it was Montana. No, I think it was Oklahoma and he was also in aviation. Yeah, that happened for a couple years.

1:43:59 Yeah, we've got those first couple years of the show. You would give us a rundown. In fact, you even recorded one of the episodes, one of the moments where the guy's grilling you. Yeah, it was quite good. Yes. And I'm sure at the time I said, it's obvious, it's obvious the Obama administration wants to stifle me. They're harassing me, John. Well, all of this obviously leads to. O.T.T. going O.T.T. I'm an OTG kinda guy. Just be OTG, people. None of those mean messages can get to you. They'll never be able to target you properly. They won't know because it's your data. You need to be responsible for it. So don't make as much. I've decided that's my new thing. If you want to be safe, you want your data to stay safe, it's your data in the first place. Don't make so much of it.

1:45:02 Which is why I have the fine Alcatel Go Flip 3 flip phone, which is functioning just nicely for me, for what I need to do. All the other work is done still on loop. So has Alcatel contacted you and said you want another one of these phones or thanks for the plug? No. In fact, I bought another one for my stepdaughter. She's OT. She's way OT. Oh, she liked it? She liked your phone? Oh my God. Now this is Ellen. This is not Elise, this is Ellen. So this is... She actually has recited Kaczynski to me. And I take credit for it, believe me. So I bought a second one. It's only 70 bucks. It's very effective. Battery lasts for a long time. And by the way, I'm not creating a lot of data. I run my Linux install. It's still running, Lubuntu, which is lightweight. It does exactly what I want and nothing more. And actually that popped in my head today.

1:46:04 Back when we had DOS, we just had command-line DOS, you had WordPerfect, and stuff worked. It was fast, it wasn't visual of course, but you could get stuff done pretty quickly. You worked a lot more with DOS than I ever did. But it was very effective. You create batch files. You could create little programs that did things. And then we got Visual with Windows 95. And I believe since then, all these... Actually, we've got Windows 1. Well, you're 3.1. 3.1 is probably where it began. I'm sorry. You're right. 3.1. You're right. I remember running NT 3.1. That was the hot shit OS, man. If you want to be cool.

1:46:46 But what's happened is we have every application that you have on your computer. and the operating system itself is continuously doing crap in the background. If it's not looking, pinging for updates and do I need to notify? And it's just sucking up all this computing power. That's why you have to have faster and faster computers because everybody, you know, the OS, if Windows, it's updating in the background. It's sharing part of it with other things on your network. It's sending stuff back to Microsoft, information. You know, it's almost like the screensavers back in the day. A screensaver would kick in and it would, you know, your computer wasn't doing anything, but if it was like a rendering, it would use up computer resources. This is happening all the time inside your computer. It's always doing stuff. It's re-indexing, it's making your life easier, but it's not really. It's just slowing down the machine. Anyway.

1:47:49 Make less make less data and don't give it away to people like 23andMe You paid for the privilege and now 23andMe sold the rights to a drug it developed Thanks to its genetic database and your data and you're not getting the cut of it. Can you believe this? People are so stupid Government-funded Android phones, apparently that's the Obama phone, comes with pre-installed and unremovable malware. Of course! Why wouldn't we be spying on you? Of course it does. You gotta spy on those poor people. And my favorite, Ring Doorbell confirms it fired four employees for watching customer videos.

1:48:34 I'm surp- are we surprised? No! But instead of reporting on this atrocity of Silicon Valley spying on you, no way. CBS Austin, they'll run a native ad! We weren't getting the ring notifications. Little did Arturo Guerra know those notifications would show this man, Henry Ludwig, breaking into his home. Guerra was on a cruise with his family for Christmas and had spotty Wi-Fi, so he was not able to access his video while out at sea. He didn't look until a day later when his neighbor called him to say they see a car that did not belong to them in their driveway. On the drive back home, they looked at the video before calling police. You're seeing him

1:49:13 Kind of look at the front door initially and look for like a secret key He's obviously looking in the window seeing if anybody's home trying to get in the only thing you see on the ring towards the last Clips as he's coming out of the front door and he's got some of my clothes on which is sort of interesting Ludwig was caught on camera over a three-hour stretch in the early morning hours the day after Christmas He broke a window of Gara's garage and after taking some personal items also stole his mother-in-law's car obviously it just feels incredibly violating and Everyone's kind of nervous and on edge and it had never happened. You know, it's a nice neighborhood We're at the long dead-end cul-de-sac. So we never thought all right, so I'm just gonna pause it here It's almost done because this is the setup. This is by the way Cambridge Analytica lady This is how manipulative things are sometimes in marketing is how it works So we're gonna give you this human interest story. You feel really bad that people on a cruise and

1:50:07 They didn't get their ring doorbell notification because they had spotty Wi-Fi, which means they're never taking a cruise again ever. But we have to do something. What can we do to help solve these problems? Our house would be that kind of a target. It was pretty unusual, but it's frightening at first. It's funny now. Ludwig left behind some of his own belongings, including his driver's license, and is now behind bars facing home burglary and unauthorized use of vehicle charges. Garrett got the car back, but does not think he will get back all of the items Ludwig stole. Now, Garrett says when he hears that notification from his Ring app, he will look and see what's at his door.

1:50:49 Now it's sort of the chime is alarming, you know, it just sort of jolts your system. He's got more Ring Doorbell videos, he's got the Play the Chime, so I know what it sounds like. This is so despicable. Well, you know what's really what gets me is that same old bromide with the guy, if unless I misheard it, left his driver's license behind so they could find him. Yeah, yeah. Sounds really believable. We hear this story on a lot of these clips where, you know, the terrorist in Paris at the Hebdo operation, you know, the guy leaves his driver's license on the street. It's one driver's license, he's driver's license. I don't know, I've never just casually left my driver's license someplace, especially when I'm robbing the place, although I don't rob places. I don't know, I have no idea. No idea.

1:51:52 Anyway, yes, that was a native ad. I caught a couple of weird native ads of late that were convoluted, but they're always native ads. Anything good? No, not on this list. I got some new reports of more complaining. There's this Australian, there's a bunch of, I don't know if the guy's a Nazi or what he is, but he's rally against immigration's going on and these Australians are meeting up and bitching and moaning. I got a weird clip somebody sent me of this guy, he's on a bullhorn moaning and groaning and he's got a huge audience.

1:52:31 And it sounds like a fascist, but did they have Australian flags? There's no fascist flags like we would use. Why don't you play that? What this is here is this government's worst fear. What this is, is Australian workers united against their own plight. Recognising their own ethnic replacement. Recognising a problem. Recognising a corruption, an institutional corruption. All of you here know that our country is under attack. We see it every day. We feel it when we travel to work. We are so congested. Our population is growing so rapidly.

1:53:11 Our infrastructure cannot cope. Greedy private capital is filling our country with as many cheap immigrants as possible. Because they'll live in smaller spaces, they'll work for less, they won't think and they won't complain. You think too much. You think for yourselves, you think for your families. You demand a higher state of living and that is against their interests. That's why this crime, whether it's violent crime, terrorism, whatever comes from these immigrants, you're not supposed to talk about it. Because these immigrants are the perfect global citizens.

1:53:50 Sounds a bit like someone could like who would have been from Europe and EU possibly I mean that's the same kind of talk you they have over there. Yeah, this is going on should be noted Don't know what to make of it personally yet no If you don't have anything a bunch of things well, then I'd like I'd like you to Take us into one more and then I've got something that we need to deconstruct which is a little longer. I OK, I can do I can go on a flyer right here and give you my early prediction for who's going to be the vice presidential candidate if Joe Biden is chosen, which I believe he will be because really, it's John.

1:54:39 John Cooper, a real Democrat hack, but a voice of the establishment, who's a Twitter guy. We follow each other. And he has made the claim that Biden's gonna win for that. He has the reasons. And Biden appears to be the guy that's just gonna pick because he's on the list. He's on the waiting list. He's gonna get picked. Who is he gonna pick for vice president? And so I went through the list. trying to find who the possibilities are. I presume that my pick is not yours, otherwise, you know, we've... Yeah, yours is Stacey Abrams. Yes. Yeah, I think Stacey Abrams is a plant, an intelligence plant of some sort. Oh, I thought you meant like actual vegetation. She might be. I look at her bio, I have a dossier on her.

1:55:33 And it's just, everything is just so... You have a dossier. Wait a minute, you have the Abrams dossier? I have a dossier on all these people. The Abrams dossier. I like it. Is that in Microsoft OneNote? Everything is just something really, you know, how does she get on everything? She has very few accomplishments, but yet she's picked for everything, she's on everything. She could be, I think that a lot of people think she is the number one of the candidates for VP. I personally like the idea of, and the Democrats have always been successful when they've used a ticket that is

1:56:15 It has a broader range from East Coast to West Coast and she's an East Coast person even though she's from Georgia. So she can say she's from the South and she could maybe bring the black vote but Biden is not the one suffering from you know black I mean, I mean, Buttigieg won't get any black votes. Warren might not get any black votes, but I think Biden, who, because he worked for Obama, will get the black vote. So they don't need a black candidate. And Cory Booker, I think also is out because he's from the same region, geographical region.

1:56:53 So I'm looking to the West Coast. And who on the West Coast, there's a dark horse, and if you look at the list of pictures, you'll find her name. You've never heard of her. And I started looking into her. She is quite the character, and she matches a number of criteria. It's a woman. So you get that little balance. Now the Democrats have to know that the woman as a vice presidential candidate has been unsuccessful before, but they're expecting it's gonna have to work one of these days. And it's a five foot one, very strange person named Lou Anne Grisham, Michelle Lou Anne Grisham. She is the governor, a governor. So she has executive experience unlike Stacey Abrams. She has executive experience. She's the governor of New Mexico.

1:57:40 And she is a real character. In fact, I have a clip of her, one of her ads. She did an ad when she ran, she was a congresswoman, and then she ran for governor and got it easily because she kicks ass. Because she has radical ideas for how to do advertising. She's crawling around here and there, and she's in this case flying around town in rollerblades. And this is the Gershwin and the rollerblades story that took place in local news coverage in New Mexico. It's hard to ignore. If you've seen the campaign ad of the rollerblading congresswoman, you probably have an opinion. News 13's Catherine Mazzone asked her campaign about it, and New Mexicans let they think about it. Catherine?

1:58:23 Jessica, it's one of three ads Michelle Lujan Grisham released this election season and reps say it's by far the most unique. And that's the point. They say they want the ad to stick in voters' minds and many of the ones we spoke to say it does. People say I'm always moving. Well, in hard times, you gotta move quick to get things done in Congress. Oh, wow. Politics aside, plenty have something to say about Michelle Lujan Grisham's latest campaign ad. That was different for sure. Especially running for Congress, you don't expect to see that. It's really corny, but I guess it's funny. I should appreciate that. It's better than the negative stuff. The congresswoman received a lot of feedback online too, most of it positive. We felt like this would be something memorable if pulled off. Gilbert Gallegos is Grisham's spokesperson. He says he doesn't know of many politicians who could pull off an ad like this. This is a very fun and positive ad but still reflects her accomplishments and her personality. While they admit it's different. She's out there

1:59:25 Being active and it's not just a stuffy suit some are left scratching their heads. Why rollerblades? Yeah, why do that? The rollerblades were actually her idea The cop car, ambulance and military plane raised others eyebrows. I'm sure she had permission to do that, right? Turns out Grisham was never on base for this ad. Gallego says they were actually on a private runway nearby. Our producers got one shot at it and she took off on the rollerblades and did it in one take with the plane taking off. So it wasn't anything we planned or knew was going to be coming.

2:00:02 Gallego says the police car and the ambulance were rented props. Volunteers actually drove them. Back to you, Jessica. All right, thank you, Catherine. We contacted Grisham's opponents in the congressional race, Republican Richard Preem, but did not hear back. Now she is Latinx? She's Latinx. She's also Native American. What? She's in the caucus for both. She's in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and she's also in the Native American Caucus. Wow. So she's got a lot going on. She's the caucuses she's part of is a Hispanic Native American and the Caucus for Women's Issues. So she's got checks a lot of boxes and if you read her complete bio as I have in the dossier,

2:00:44 She is pretty much the perfect down the line Democrat, but she's got a lot of spunk. And she's got really interesting radical ideas for campaigning and she's a fire. She's just a hot, she's hot in terms of her, you know, she's doesn't put up with anything. She's a perfect candidate for VP. And I think she could bring the Hispanic vote in and it would help Biden a lot. And I don't think it's gonna, it would be a very, it's the biggest plus he could get for a VP that would make things kind of interesting. So that's my prediction. The problem with your prediction, which I like, I've never heard of her. I think calling someone who has spunk is probably a hightest.

2:01:31 I think short people are the ones that have spunk, you know, you're a little twerp, you spunky. So that is definitely heightest. Gosh, I mean, the problem is, I'm still waiting for Hillary to be the nominee. And now you've switched to Joe Biden, you know, kind of underhandedly. Well, I'm not, I still have not pulled my Hillary prediction. But I'm saying if Joe Biden, and I made it clear that if Joe Biden is the candidate, which I believe he will be, if Hillary doesn't jump in because of Cooper saying he will be, I believe he is going to be, and he's gonna have to pick somebody. And I don't think he's gonna pick any of his competitors, so anybody you saw up on stage with him. I mean, nobody that I know of has ever done that. They never pick a guy that they debated against.

2:02:29 I mean, Pence wasn't debating against Trump. No, no, she's also a tri-Delta. Yeah, yeah, she's a tri-Delta. You caught that, yes. Delta, Delta, Delta. I don't know if that's good, good, good, but okay, well, that's reasonable. Although, I still, what I see is the black vote is in play and it's not, yes, Joe is a safe choice, but if Joe doesn't win, Which I really think I'm not so sure he's gonna make it like physically gonna make it mentally gonna make it to the I'm not being a dick about it. There's the possibility of him dropping dead on the campaign trail. That would be screw up the election. Yeah, it's a day wrecker. But my point is

2:03:21 Keep him alive. They know how to do that. No matter who becomes VP, the assumption is that person will become president because Joe will never make it through four years. Yes, and having someone who's a governor with executive experience as opposed to somebody who never got to that, including Stacey Abrams, is a plus. You want somebody with executive experience. You don't just want some legislative type person. They don't know how to run anything. They just know how to vote for bills. She looks the business, though. She looks like she could kick your ass and get something done. She does look like that. Yeah, she does. But I also think Klobuchar has a bit of that look. And she's still in the race. How is it possible? Yes, but Klobuchar has no executive experience whatsoever.

2:04:09 And she ate her salad with her comb. That is just, it will never leave my memory. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like what she did there. Yeah, she's also a mean-spirited person, supposedly, and I don't like Klobuchar at all. I can't imagine a Biden-Klobuchar. I mean, even Klobuchar on the bumper sticker, it doesn't work. The Grisham's a good name. It's a good American-sounding name, even though she's, you know, apparently goes back to pre-Columbia times. Biden Grisham is a good look. I think Biden Abrams is a good sound too, but I don't think that's gonna happen. Biden Booker, eh, not so much. You gotta think of the bumper sticker. You're listening to a podcast, ladies and gentlemen. Podcasting is apparently hot, hot, hot. And of course, we're still looking for our exit, which is apparently not gonna happen, because no one has any good ideas that we can fulfill.

2:05:11 But Goldman Sachs did a report. I'm sorry, not Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley did a report on podcast podcasting and podcast monetization. And I figured we would have a listen to this as the Morgan Stanley guy dropped by on CNBC. This is obviously a financial channel. He's a famous podcaster, right? Yeah, and obviously they didn't interview me for their report. They didn't interview anybody that seems, but the guy must, he doesn't need to interview me because he knows the business because he's been in the business. He knows the business, and I will say as an aside, Kyl and Knowlton

2:05:56 did reach out to me and did interview me for a report they are doing for their client Spotify. And I thought that would be fun to do. And I appreciated, and by the way, it wasn't the American Hill and Knowlton. No, of course not. It was the Swedish Hill and Knowlton. And they're doing a report for their client who was in Sweden and they actually called me and said can we ask you a few questions. And that's, I mean... Since you mentioned, could I have a quick aside because I'm gonna forget to mention this. I don't want any clips on it, but apparently in Sweden, Swedish airlines are complaining because now there's a thing called flight shaming. Flight shaming. Thank you, Greta. Yeah. Yeah. If you go on an airplane, you can be shamed. Yeah, you'll be shamed. You went on an airplane. Anyway. Yeah. Now I'll take the boat to Los Angeles. You and Roger McGuinn will.

2:06:56 So CNBC gets this jamoke on and maybe I should just preface that in 2005 I built a podcast network of companies, of shows, and we had the model that pretty much everybody else has now. Typical Adam Curry fashion, 10 years too early, almost 15 years too early, no exit like the gimlets of the world, et cetera. But the question is, where's the money? Is this a bubble? And it is my belief that you cannot monetize the network. And when I say that, in this case, specifically a podcast network cannot be monetized. The main reason being that Dave Weiner and I set this up on an open format, open standard RSS. Nobody owns it. The first thing we did, the first thing I did in particular was

2:07:53 incentivize and support and through the daily source code work with engineers and software developers around the world to build what we now call pod catchers or podcast apps. Apple has the most used one. Personally, I think that a lot of people like Overcast, but there's many other apps. Because of the open nature, no one has been able to own podcasting. You want to talk about video? YouTube owns it. A number of reasons for that, but they also had the Flash technology very early on and owned that. Podcasting is not owned by anybody. Apple does not own podcasting. I don't see any indication they want to own it, but they do want people to use their devices and software while enjoying it. Spotify is the one with a distant second, Pandora, who are trying to become all things podcasting. So we'll listen to this report. We'll probably stop it to discuss a few things because of course, as you'd expect, it's utterly stupid.

2:08:56 What is behind the big boost that podcasts are getting, not just Apple versus Spotify, but anywhere you get your podcasts, which is what they say on the pad. So right off the bat, this woman doesn't, she thinks that Apple owns podcasting, that Apple has podcasts, where Spotify, you actually have to give them permission to stream your podcast on their app. Podcast. Yeah, well thanks for having me Contessa. Yeah, look, the audio market is highly competitive because it's growing. Consumers are engaging more and more.

2:09:32 And we think 2019 we saw about 100 million users in the United States streaming. Almost 50% of smartphone users are now in subscription streaming. So it's a big market and there's a lot of focus on it. One way to differentiate your product is by investing in podcasts. And so there's been a explosion of podcasts available to consumers. And there's been a lot of investment by Apple, Spotify, Amazon and others to try to bring more podcasts to the consumer. And for Spotify, Okay, let's stop for a second. I don't know what this guy is talking about, about investment. I mean, yes, Apple has a team, and I don't know if that's an investment. He's making a lot of assumptions here and it's not because they want to diversify. Spotify has a big problem. Their costs follow their usage. When you listen to one song, one stream, there's a cost associated with that to them that they have to pay to the publisher, record company, etc., the PRO, whatever their deal is.

2:10:32 So they're looking for anything, anything they can own that doesn't have a per play usage fee. That's the reason Morgan Stanley. You know, this is really important. This is where they compete. Apple's a massive company, does a lot of things incredibly well for Spotify. It's all about audio. And so they've made podcasts incredibly important to their strategy. Listening has reportedly ticked up to 4.4 hours weekly. Apple says it has 800,000 podcasts. How do you differentiate your service to advertisers? Oh, right away. There's no other way to do it. We gotta do ads. Yeah, look, I mean, I think one of the challenges in audio, whether it's music or podcasts, is generally content is not exclusive. You mentioned the Netflix Apple competition. There you have exclusive programming. That's not as easy in the audio space. So it's really about discovery. You just mentioned how many podcasts there are. How do people like you and I figure out what to listen to?

2:11:30 Did you think they really they really did some research on this because this is the same lie that I heard 15 years ago Yeah, it's about discovery man because no one can discover it. We need to discover it. It's bullcrap You have no trouble finding things they hear about it from their friends It's not the front page of Apple that matters. It's not whatever podcast portal of Google or Amazon. People hear about it from their friends. It's how it's always gone. By the way, it's how it works with music too. You people have no power over promoting this stuff. It's really senseless. And so curation and discovery

2:12:07 and the user interface, that's really where the differentiation is increasingly showing up. And again, I think our survey suggests that for the first time, Spotify has moved past Apple as the most popular platform for podcast consumption. And podcast premium users actually consume over five hours a week of podcasts. So you're seeing their consumer base actually even more engaged. Last hour we were just talking about one trillion music streams last year, which surely is a record. If streaming music is seeing a boost and podcasts are seeing this big boost, who's losing out? Well probably sleep would be one thing.

2:12:45 Generally speaking, there's probably some cannibalization of music consumption because of the rise of podcasts. But the big tailwinds here, Contessa, are smartphone adoption, unlimited data plans, this is a global phenomenon, increasingly smart speakers. We think almost a third of US homes now have smart speakers. And eventually connected cars. So we're more connected than ever, which allows for more content consumption. And that's growing the pie overall so so explain to me briefly Ben if you could The the money machine here I Stop just on that the money machine. What do you think John? What do you think? What do you think the extrapolation here is of the money machine? the big carbonite

2:12:07 and the user interface, that's really where the differentiation is increasingly showing up. And again, I think our survey suggests that for the first time, Spotify has moved past Apple as the most popular platform for podcast consumption. And podcast premium users actually consume over five hours a week of podcasts. So you're seeing their consumer base actually even more engaged. Last hour we were just talking about one trillion music streams last year, which surely is a record. If streaming music is seeing a boost and podcasts are seeing this big boost, who's losing out? Well probably sleep would be one thing.

2:12:45 Generally speaking, there's probably some cannibalization of music consumption because of the rise of podcasts. But the big tailwinds here, Contessa, are smartphone adoption, unlimited data plans, this is a global phenomenon, increasingly smart speakers. We think almost a third of US homes now have smart speakers. And eventually connected cars. So we're more connected than ever, which allows for more content consumption. And that's growing the pie overall so so explain to me briefly Ben if you could The the money machine here I Stop just on that the money machine. What do you think John? What do you think? What do you think the extrapolation here is of the money machine? the big carbonite

2:13:31 The money machine here. I get how the podcast producer makes money. She or he or they sell advertising that is either dropped into the podcast or bumpers it on either end. But how does Spotify and Apple make money from this? Yeah, it's a very good question and one that investors are highly focused on and I think the answer is today They're not. In fact, while podcasts are not new, monetization of podcasts really is just beginning and it's an advertised... How long have we heard this? How long have we heard it's just beginning, the monetization of podcasts? Tell me.

2:14:09 Well, I would say probably since 2000 before you started pod show. Mm-hmm. So it probably around 2003 so at least 15 16 I'd say 17 years close to 17 years at least 15 years. Yes. Well, it's all it's happening now. It's it's We did this 15 years ago. We saw that it wouldn't work, you idiots. Podcasts are not new. Monetization of podcasts really is just beginning. And it's an advertising supported platform in general where the artist or entertainer is reading an ad, which is pretty old school. But you're just starting to see, for example, Spotify announced some streaming advertising insertion technology at CES this week.

2:14:58 We had this what, 13 years ago? Dynamically inserted ads. Advertisers don't want to be a part of it. They don't want the risk. They do not want their ads showing up on a podcast where someone might say poop or something else they don't like or I don't know, Trump. It's not going to work. They don't want it and even if they did people who hate that podcast and there's a lot of them will go after the Advertisers and say these guys are shit and the advertisers walk away for the same reason it is no longer a model Morgan Stanley CNBC so we're starting to see more and more investment in the tech behind it to make it a more monetizable audience the highly engaging media and

2:15:49 So I think it I think the opportunity is there but we're just getting started There are some small subscription services that are ad free But you know, I'd emphasize the word small today. Oh, yeah Harvey was really ahead of his time wasn't ha ha ha. Yeah, Paul Harvey was ahead of his time What does that mean? Well, I guess they're assuming that Paul Harvey who was self syndicated and and got paid for these different radio stations that brought Paul Harvey these little news snippets. It was something like podcasting to this woman. This woman doesn't know what she's talking about. No, she really doesn't know what she's talking about, but the guy from Morgan Stanley is just as clueless. Well, I thought he was an old pro!

2:16:36 They're making the same assumptions and the same mistakes we've seen go on. People have to make new assumptions and new mistakes. That's the way I see it. Well, we've made lots of mistakes. Our assumption is it's not going to work. We could not do the show we want to do. It would not be interesting enough if we had advertisements. And if we did, Even then, it would still be the Tommy John's, me, Undy, Squarespace, Casper mattress of the world because that's the margins of advertising. You can always get that if you want, if you want to restrict what you do, if you want to be like that. I think you should replay the Peter Griffin clip from last show. Oh, that's a good idea. What is it? Family Guy is the name of the show. Yeah, Family Guy. Okay, here we go.

2:17:24 Peter, we have got to prove Lois is innocent. That's right. And the best way to crack any high-profile crime case is to do a podcast before you have all the facts. Okay. And the key to any podcast is poor sound quality and tons of commercials. All right, we've got Lois calling in from prison. She's only got three minutes. Thanks for looking at my case, guys. You bet, Lois. My first question is, do you get a good night's sleep? No, because I'm in bed. I'm in prison and my cellmate is bipolar. Well, if you get a Casper mattress now, you have 100 days to decide if it's the right mattress for you. Peter, I don't have time for this. I don't have time for underwear that bunches up. That's why I wear MeUndies. Perfect underwear for hanging yourself in your jail cell.

2:18:07 before they haul me off to the freaking cafeteria. Sounds like you could use blue apron. Have you ever wanted to receive a vegetable in the mail? Then you need blue apron. I'm like obsessed with the stir fry. Brian here likes the Moroccan beef. I have no opinion on the Moroccan beef, Peter. Brian, this is not art. This is commerce. Peter, before I go, I need a new lawyer. This one made a sexual pass at me. Oh boy, everyone knows hiring is a nightmare. At least it was before Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter, we vastly overestimate how many podcast listeners are in a position to hire someone. So to wrap this up, I would like to say that I am

2:18:46 Am a believer in our model and I love how well it has worked and continues to work because 12 years is nothing to be sneezed at We have an incredible community of producers who? Understand the value for value concept and understand that this show is produced with many hands and a lot of hands doing a lot of work including financial contributions the only thing That and this is by the way is our exit strategy the only way to exit is to sell the whole kitten caboodle to some to this next idiot up the line. Who thinks they can do it? I think first of all you have a negative attitude but you're overlooking something I think it should be pointed out.

2:18:07 before they haul me off to the freaking cafeteria. Sounds like you could use blue apron. Have you ever wanted to receive a vegetable in the mail? Then you need blue apron. I'm like obsessed with the stir fry. Brian here likes the Moroccan beef. I have no opinion on the Moroccan beef, Peter. Brian, this is not art. This is commerce. Peter, before I go, I need a new lawyer. This one made a sexual pass at me. Oh boy, everyone knows hiring is a nightmare. At least it was before Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter, we vastly overestimate how many podcast listeners are in a position to hire someone. So to wrap this up, I would like to say that I am

2:18:46 Am a believer in our model and I love how well it has worked and continues to work because 12 years is nothing to be sneezed at We have an incredible community of producers who? Understand the value for value concept and understand that this show is produced with many hands and a lot of hands doing a lot of work including financial contributions the only thing That and this is by the way is our exit strategy the only way to exit is to sell the whole kitten caboodle to some to this next idiot up the line. Who thinks they can do it? I think first of all you have a negative attitude but you're overlooking something I think it should be pointed out.

2:19:34 which is when you mentioned Discovery and how the reason our show got to where it is, which has got a lot of listeners, and it's a lot of it's word of mouth. But Discovery used to be with music, which it kind of ended during the Napster era, used to be the radio. Because you'd listen to songs on the radio, and there was even the payola days where people would pay to have the songs done. We have the No Agenda Stream. Exactly. Which is a 24-7 stream of our choices of the best podcasts that you can listen to on a streaming basis and if you could jerry-rig it up just right, you can have it just streaming in your car as you're driving around. And the No Agenda Stream is a good example of, I don't know anybody else doing that and that's really the future of the whole thing, it seems to me, which are these channels

2:20:23 of podcasts, which is what we have. Even if you go to one of the networks, these podcast networks, they don't have a channel of podcasts, they just have a bunch of them, they have an array. There's a difference between an array of shows and a stream of shows. We're the only ones that have pioneered the stream of shows. And if I may add, when you go to the stream, if you go there on NoahJennestream.com, you're in there in a chat room with people who are also recommending things. I mean, it's a whole ecosystem. I think we've cracked it. And I like that we have other shows who are also taking donations. I don't think we have a single show that has any ads in their episodes. We banned that, I think, from the get-go. I don't think anyone does that. Lots of people who are on the stream have value-for-value propositions, and it's working. Long story short,

2:26:10 I assume he's not just a highly skilled spook, but probably a well-heeled world traveler. I can only fantasize that he might welcome me as the spiritual son he's never met, and someday deem me worthy to be included in his will." Yeah, we all want that. And then, I think it was anonymous, but I got two great books, and I really appreciate... I love books. Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops, and the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream, Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon. Have you ever heard of this book? No, but I don't know how it works. It has anything to do with Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. It's probably similar. I've seen that one. Yeah, I'm thinking of the movie. And the other book is by Lincoln Lawrence, Were We Controlled? The Assassination of President Kennedy.

2:27:06 That should be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's I love I love getting books. Thank you very much and thank you to our producers who Supported us today on our on our journey. We need to do better for sure, especially if that whole Rap I gave about how stupid the advertising podcast advertising business is and don't make us look bad but But the people who do support us, also those under $50 who come in for anonymity many times, it was $49.99, but also are on our programs, our subscription programs, they help, particularly on days like this. So we encourage everybody to

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2:30:41 Wow, the party blowing out my ear. Yes, we have a meetup report to start with. This is the meetup from Long Island, our first meetup in Long Island. Tom Starkweather, you know him well. Tom has done work for the No Agenda Show producing in Manhattan. He also does quite a few end of show mixes along with his clearly better half Alexis. Yes, I want to say Alexis and They recorded their meetup the way they should do we're coming to you from Long Island The first Long Island meetup with host Andrew Grasso. Yeah, we hope that many more one-time executive producer here I'll do that many more times as well and Great time. I'm Tom Stark weather and you are

2:31:32 I'm Josene. I am Andrew's wife. I'm seven months pregnant, so expecting our first child in two months and I would love some go karma. Hi, hello world. I'm here Edgar in St. James. Not the walk, but we're gonna get there. Hey, I'm Mike the boy from Bushwick and I'm really glad to be out here in the town. Hi, I'm Alex. You might know Alex from the station ID. In the morning. In the morning! Yes, I meant of course Alex not Alexis. Alex. Let me throw that goat karma out right away. That was a good request. You got karma. Alright, here's what's coming up. Meetups in the future. Now Mimi sent me what I have so...

2:32:28 The first upcoming one is the 16th, Thursday, that makes sense. And that'll be in Austin, the Austin local 512 Doc's Backyard in Sunset Valley, 7 o'clock in the evening. This will be the first meetup since the Meetup Meet Shoot event. And Sir Scott Baronet of the No Agenda Armory is hoping we can get some photos and share some stories from the event. And... Additionally, they'll be taking a collection for the show with a goal to gain a group associate producer credit. This coming Friday we have the Charlotte meetup number two, seven o'clock in the evening as well. Sycamore Brewing look for the large crackpot and buzzkill heads. Bile Cameron organizing that. Now there's a change on the New York City meetup. It'll now be five o'clock and this is Athena and Alex are organizing. Join us in the afternoon in the heart of the city of swollen amygdala.

2:33:19 for much-needed post-holiday midwinter relief and joyous camaraderie that will be at the Lorelei Beer Garden and again at the new time, it was 2 o'clock and now it is 5 p.m. on Saturday. Also on Saturday, Flight of the No Agenda on the other coast in Los Angeles, that will be at 2 p.m. That will be right near LAX, I believe. It's the Proud Bird Food Bazaar. Bring your appetites and thirst, says Leo Bravo. Next Saturday, No Agenda Toon Man tour continues. This is Jesse Coy Nelson. He will be in the Amigo Pub in Amman, Jordan. Please, if you are anywhere near, please join this meetup. That would be spectacular.

2:34:04 Again, Saturday the 18th in the Amigo pub in Amman, Jordan Nashville will be celebrating its six-week cycle on that Saturday as well Make sure you go to no agenda meetups calm to get all the information on the horizon. I'll just give you a quick list of Moscow in Russia on the 25th, East Westminster, Massachusetts also on the 25th, Atlanta, Georgia on the 25th, then on the 26th Alexandria, Virginia, Philly, at the end of the month Colorado Springs and remember on February 21st the Keeper and I will be at Delray Beach

2:34:40 in Florida and we're looking forward to seeing everybody there at the meetup. NoagendaMeetups.com is where you can get all the information, where you can find out what meetups are happening near you. If you can't find one, start one. It's a great place to get to know people, hang out, non-triggering conversation and meet children from other lands. It's good for you. It's good for your amygdala, good for your health. Sounds good. Yes. When are you going to another one next? I think we're going to try to organize a Silicon Valley one pretty soon. Now I have a couple of clips, I have a series of clips, but I have one clip that's kind of a standalone. It has to be played because it's got two plus marks, that means it's funny.

2:35:27 Yes, and this really what makes me wonder I really have I really am fearful Especially since the seven starting with the 787 Dreamliner Fiasco where they outsourced everything and it became impossible to make the plane. It finally got it off the ground Whoa, oh did did Boeing just issue a strike? That was my mic Podcasts are down. Podcasts are down. Podcasts are down. So I've been very worried about Boeing and this is the report that Democracy Now! produced. I never heard, I heard some of these snippets but this presentation by Amy I think was the best.

2:36:11 The inquiry into the plane crash in Tehran comes as the jet's manufacturer, Boeing, is facing even more scrutiny over its troubled 737 MaxJet, has released internal emails show Boeing employees talking about deceiving federal regulators and joking about potential safety flaws in the plane's design ahead of the two fatal plane crashes that killed all 346 people on board in Indonesia and Ethiopia. In one email, an employee wrote, quote, "'This airplane is designed by clowns who are in turn supervised by monkeys,' unquote." In another, an employee asked a colleague, quote, "'Would you put your family on a MAX simulator-trained aircraft?'

2:36:48 I wouldn't." In a third, a worker wrote in apparent reference to interactions with the FAA, quote, I still haven't been forgiven by God for the covering up I did last year, unquote. The Boeing 737 Max has been grounded worldwide. You know, the thing is, this is not new. I mean, we had these messages weeks ago. This is now just, I guess, because of the Iranian crash or the Ukraine Airlines crash that they're dredging it up and now they've got it. It's a hook. It is a hook. Yeah, yeah, but I never heard the there's these reading these notes. I mean the design by clowns I heard by never heard supervised by monkeys. So they've been clipping these clip these little snippets. I just thought it was funny. I just wonder about Boeing it. I mean you it's not unusual to have disgruntled employees. That's for sure all companies have them and I don't think there's yeah, but it's not nice to hear that about something that's flying you through the air.

2:37:46 Yes, I don't want to hear these things. I got a Boeing report from CNBC spot the gaffe A new twist in the saga of the Boeing 737 Max as internal messages were released showing what Boeing employees were saying about the Max. One reads, this airplane is designed by clowns who in turn are supervised by monkeys. I gotta hand it to CNBC for the acting. Little better than what Amy did. I mean, she really put some emphasis into it. Did a good job. Phil LeBeau joins us now with more fallout from this latest embarrassment for Boeing. But Phil, does it reveal anything new that's problematic for the airline? Not... Did you hear it? Reveal? No. No. Did it reveal anything new about the air... Listen... Now with more fallout from this latest embarrassment for Boeing. But Phil, does it reveal anything new that's problematic for the airline? She apparently thinks Boeing is an airline.

2:38:48 What an idiot. Yeah, that's good. I didn't catch it though. So, yeah, she got away with it. Well, I listened to it 18 times, you know, before you coach. So yeah, you, you listen again, this proves our point about, you know, you listen and listen and listen to, cause we produce these clips. You have to listen to them over and over. You start picking stuff up. I have now this I've had this this clip for not least a week. Maybe even three shows I just wanted to put it out there Universal Music Group It's the world's biggest music label home to Lady Gaga Taylor Swift Ariana Grande and greats like the Beatles and now to be shared with a consortium led by Tencent

2:39:31 Universal's owner Vivendi disclosing on Tuesday that it has finalised an agreement to sell a 10% stake to the Chinese firm and its co-investors. The deal values Universal at $34 billion and the consortium has an option to buy another stake by early 2021. Talks between the two groups were first revealed in August The agreement will allow both to expand in a recovering global market, with Tencent getting more access to US artists and Universal tapping into Korea's K-pop and other Asian stars. The revenues are there. 2018 saw a fourth year of strong growth after a decade of decline. Much of the upsurge driven by Spotify and other streaming services. They made up nearly half of all revenues.

2:40:19 The deal will also be music to the ears of Vincent Bolloré, the French billionaire who controls Vivendi and who's been seeking to cash in on the revival. I think this will have more implications than people realize. Chinese don't like all kinds of content. And this is true. Yeah, you know and universal music man is that's a big one. That's a that's a really big one We've sold everything sold everything to the Chinese good work 34 billion at old backlist. Yeah. Oh, yeah sure well. It's all streaming money Money in the bank. It's the only thing we don't have but I

2:41:05 I'm a happy man and every single day I show up to do this show, which is every day because we're always working on it. I am so thankful I get to do this job. Very, very thankful. Well, you're thankful. Yes. Are we wrapping? I'd like to. Okay, well if you want to wrap it I did want to do a little bit about the worldwide protest But we can turn up that on the next show. No, I think if you want to do it now we can do it I've stopped the end of show tune. Well, then you got to listen to a bunch of clips including the French women protest Which is new no, no, no, no, we'll do we'll do that on the next Sunday, which will be Thursday. I

2:41:43 Thursday's good for talking about riots. Mo Facts with Adam Curry episode number 20 is up on No Agenda Stream. You're right, John. It's a great place to go listen to cool podcasts. Discovery. It's built into it. NoagendaStream.com. And you don't have to get an app. You don't have to buy it. Yes, it's on the internet. It's on the web. You just click and boom you're done. End of show mix is Leo LaPuke, Sir Chris Wilson, and who is the third one from? I have a credit on the third one. But we definitely will be back with you on Thursday to bring you another two to three hours of media deconstruction. I am coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, FEMA Region No. 6 in the governmental maps. Remember us at dvorak.org.

2:42:36 Until then, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday. Please join us right here at noagendastream.com, noagendashow.com, on NOAgenda. Until then, adios mofos and such! Our missiles are big, powerful, accurate, lethal and fast. It's brand new information. imminent and specific threat. Transparently lying about an imminent threat. This administration has not made the case that there was an imminent threat. They did not show us that they were dealing with an imminent threat. I saw no evidence of that whatsoever. The president puts his interests above America's interests. Imminent threat.

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