Episode 1149 · Thursday, 27 June 2019

Couple of Reds

A presidential stand-down in the Strait of Hormuz meets a grassroots rebellion from the ADOS movement as the Democratic Party faces a shifting electoral calculus.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 50m listen | 51 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1149

About this episode

President Donald Trump aborted a retaliatory strike on Iran minutes before execution, citing a potential death toll of 150 people as a disproportionate response to a downed U.S. drone. While official narratives claim the aircraft was in international waters, the recovery of debris by Iranian forces suggests a different flight path. This decision highlights a growing rift between the White House and hawkish advisors like John Bolton and Mike Pompeo who favor military escalation.

In domestic politics, the American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) movement, led by Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore, is challenging the Democratic Party's reliance on the black voting bloc. Activists in California and Philadelphia are publicly criticizing sanctuary city policies and the prioritization of the Latino vote over native-born citizens. Meanwhile, Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian confirmed the rollout of biometric facial recognition at international terminals, and Austin Mayor Steve Adler faced backlash after the city council repealed ordinances against public camping and panhandling.

John C. Dvorak recounts the myth-making of the Comdex era while Adam Curry describes the logistical nightmare of baggage system failures at Austin Bergstrom International Airport. The program deconstructs a celebrity-laden Mueller report video produced by Rob Reiner, noting the sickly aesthetic of Hollywood elites. In a rare success story, the No Agenda community secured a mainframe DBA position for the husband of Lady Dame Bente Holt Edlich through the value-for-value network.


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CHAPTER 01 / 51 Discussion

Studio Soundproofing, Equipment Setup, IRS Deductions

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program from their respective studios in Austin and Northern Silicon Valley. Dvorak describes receiving new soundproofing panels from Sir Blake and his girlfriend, while Curry jokes about the necessity of high-end gear for IRS tax deductions. The hosts discuss the physical setup of their recording spaces and the permanence of their current locations.

sir blake· soundproofing· austin· silicon valley· irs· equipment

00:00 Arrest him! Back at home base in the Sir Blake Soundproof Studios and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I'm awaiting the 10 car Zephyr to go zooming by any minute. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning. I thought it was that it hasn't been 10, it's been less or it hasn't been a ten cars F? It's been nine but I've noticed about starting a couple weeks ago during the summer yeah it's been ten. Is that all the producers who aren't donating that are in the tenth car they're on their way somewhere else is that what happens in the summer huh? Yeah in the summer they'll jump into car number ten and off they go

00:57 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It takes forever geez no hey I got some soundproofing panels finally oh How do they sound why you tell me how does it sound? I can't exactly They don't make noise they take it away these are huge sir Blake is His smoking hot girlfriend had just, I guess she works at some company that does soundproofing. Yeah? And she had a whole stack left over and these are shoot what are these like one two three they're four feet by two and a half i think almost yeah and he sent me six of them and so they're just leaning against the wall now but when they're up on the wall to be even better They need to lean this is probably better But it would look better if their hanging

01:46 I don't know if you fall down or something the thing leaning there is gonna flow. You're gonna catch your fall and you'll be okay, it won't break your hips Yeah but just looks better if its against the wall now now It looks like still a temporary studio. It is! No it's not we own this place We're not moving feet first baby. We're staying in here. Well then just glue them to the wall Look I just got home and there were two big boxes with three each and so after I rebuilt the studio for the fourth time in 10 days, oh man. You know we got home... Well don't you just do the podcast on an iPhone? What are you work for the IRS? What did all this gear for it makes sense use an iPhone Yeah i heard you doing on the iPhone lots of people doing on the iPhone you need this gear you know deductions for that exactly

CHAPTER 02 / 51 Discussion

European Travel, Gatwick Airport, Norwegian Air Dreamliner

Adam Curry recounts his recent travel itinerary from Faro, Portugal, to Austin, Texas, via Gatwick Airport. He criticizes European airport designs that force passengers through duty-free shopping areas and describes his stay at the technology-packed BLOC Hotel. Curry praises the comfort of the Norwegian Air Dreamliner aircraft despite the airline's financial struggles.

gatwick· norwegian air· dreamliner· belfast· faro· bloc hotel

02:40 Yeah, so we got home yesterday. Landed... why did we land? We landed at two but it took a long time to get out of the international terminal Austin's big international terminal which consists of a small hall and in a baggage carousel You flew a direct flight to Austin? Yeah, you know we went through this. I thought you always went through Atlanta or something No Norwegian Air remember Norwegian Air Oh right right i'm sorry We took it from Gatwick actually let me take a step back So we flew from Faro in Portugal on Friday so that the day after the show you know I took down the studio once again and put it in my bag And uh...so we took EasyJet to Faro because we had the Saturday 10am flight from Gatwick

03:31 And so we stayed at the airport hotel. First of all, I have to say in Europe our experience with Gatwick and with Belfast and with Faro at any point when you're entering or exiting the air side of the airport right? So you're going through either customs or security or both they force you through shopping Oh yeah. But I mean, but not a little bit! It keeps that airport going. You know, I know people who are allergic to perfume

04:08 They would probably just puke and die. I mean you walk out of the security area or the customs area, it doesn't matter whether you're entering the country are leaving or any kind... these airports are all the same like ah walk through here you go around about around about and then to the right and then finally you're in an open area and there's more shops! But the forcing you through the duty-free... I went to True Gatwick last time and noticed that there's a lot of shopping there. And you have to walk through it, it's like they have some designers from casinos Yes! Like many of the Vegas casinos, to get to the hotel desk you gotta walk through the casino It's exactly like that, it's almost like IKEA where you can't just get something and go You have to go through the whole path Yeah, they have a path So that was just odd so we decided to stay at a hotel

04:57 the airport and there's three of them, like three at Gatwick. There is a Hampton Inn, there is a Yotel which I think you stayed at a yotel last time you did Gatwick didn't ya? In New York yeah I think in New... I think at Gatwick it wasn't a yotel something else was little very small rooms but comfortable so we've stayed at the Block BLOC hotel maybe where we stayed now I love this idea because you're basically renting this highly designed packed with technology, little block of space which is completely designed for aesthetics. The shower which is a... oh wait a minute it was uh it was a brand shower and I forgot it was like a... It's very convenient right over the bed

05:43 This shower assaulted me. I got in the shower and it's very dark, everything is dark marble or whatever you know dark stone that you can't really see very well and there are four knobs and when you turn one it's like right into your face, change that, it's coming from above even see the extra rain shower on top and then all of a sudden scalding hot It was completely built for the way it looks Not really for ergonomics, you know tripping over stuff. It's ah but it was cute I like the idea You check in you check out done perfect right into the right into your your checking Check-in aisle and Norwegian air and got to tell ya I like him well now they should give you a free flight for this promotion

06:37 I don't think so. They're gonna be free anything. Here's the thing about these airlines, if they gave you a free flight they'd be in the red. Probably! It was the Dreamliner which is nice that...I have to say for plastic airplane it's very very comfortable aircraft So that was really quite good Oh, I asked actually Horowitz called me yesterday. He had some just messing around with his setup again and broke it or whatever Yeah to call Adam I've never seen a guy futz around with stuff as much as he does reminds me of me actually Futs around and then you break stuff like how do I fix it? And it's he's wrestling but he's like well I I just moved everything the windows and I have problems I said what

CHAPTER 03 / 51 Discussion

Parental Expectations, Homecomings, Child Behavior

The hosts share a brief aside regarding their expectations when returning home from long trips. They compare notes on whether their children leave food in the fridge or prepare for their arrival, concluding that such gestures are rare. The conversation highlights the disconnect between parental hopes and the reality of busy households.

parenting· homecoming· family· household· expectations

07:28 Yeah, you figured you just move from Mac to Windows on a Saturday and it would be easy? Is that what you thought? Anyway, that wasn't what it's about. I asked him the same question i'm going to ask you You've been away from home where the kids stayed home or one kid stayed in your house and you came back right? Yeah Now does your kid then have something? You know like some something in the fridge a little stock just a couple things like a little sandwich Or something because you flew and you're hungry And you know they thought about you do your kids ever do that No. What does that ever happen? Three out of three, I just want... or it's not the same answer! I was just wondering! Like i had high hopes Well you're a dreamer. I'm an idiot apparently. You get picked up at the airport Not even that she was asleep at home Yeah oh well so it's not just me good It's good to know

CHAPTER 04 / 51 Discussion

Austin Bergstrom Airport, International Terminal, Baggage System Failures

Austin Bergstrom International Airport experienced significant baggage handling failures following the arrival of several international flights. Adam Curry describes a "nightmare" scenario where luggage became clogged in a system not yet ready for high-volume international traffic. The city council has reportedly earmarked two million dollars for a new baggage handling system to address these recurring infrastructure issues.

austin bergstrom· baggage handling· international terminal· norwegian air· airport infrastructure

08:29 Alright, I do have a lot. Oh actually while we're what we were talking about airports You know again all this facial recognition stuff that That we went through it all of the All of the European airports and it almost seems a little unsophisticated when you come back to the States And you know there's it's just not It's just not organized well. And Austin Bergstrom Airport has a, they had a luggage problem I saw in the council meeting that they have this two million dollars earmarked for the new baggage handling system and i figured out why They had four international flights come into this new international terminal which isn't really ready yet it's kind of off on the corner and the bags got clogged up they were clogging up down at the bottom you know there's bags literally flying through the air as they pop down hit another bag and then the thing stops

09:23 and then there's no one to unclog it so passengers are clamoring up the baggage carousel and tossing stuff, people are cheering when it starts again. It was a nightmare! Nightmare! And then we got one of our two bags and they're like... Ladies and gentlemen if you just came off of Norwegian Airlines There seems to be a problem with the bags somewhere further up in their system They have to unclog that So could take awhile So we waited like an extra 45 minutes just for one bag because it was clogged somewhere else Not prepared here in Austin ready for the onslaught but Delta who I used to love flying, you know, I used to fly Delta from

CHAPTER 05 / 51 Discussion

Delta Air Lines, Ed Bastian, Biometric Facial Recognition

Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian discusses the implementation of full biometric facilities at international concourses, utilizing facial recognition for check-in and security. Adam Curry expresses deep privacy concerns regarding the government's collaboration with commercial airlines to share citizen data. The discussion touches on the inevitability of these systems and the potential for non-users to be deemed suspicious by authorities.

delta air lines· ed bastian· facial recognition· biometrics· tsa· cbp

10:09 Austin to Atlanta, Atlanta to Europe and typically to Schiphol. And then from Schiphol you can get anywhere you want and now that we have this direct flight which is cheaper than the Delta slash KLM I prefer to go to the UK but there was an interview with the Delta CEO Ed Bastian and I don't know if you saw that they had a problem recently where they couldn't board anybody their uh... glitch yes it was a glitch. Their boarding or their app which most people use these days I don't know we like to print them off and i don't have a phone with an app to use anyway so just scan it from my piece of paper. I detest those people using their phone for this sort of thing well, its pretty much standard fare now The app was no longer bringing up boarding passes

11:00 So they had to resort back, well do you have a... can you prove that your on the previous leg? Huge delay. Big problems but oh don't worry we're the technological airplane! We're the technological aviation company! We are an airline of the future! ThermalF is our latest international concourse and put it up a number years ago And we've just converted it into full biometrics Wooo! Facility so when you get out of the car You never have to show your papers. Because we use facial recognition on the way in, you can check-check in and you can check your bags all through facial go through security... And by the way I cannot get through this clip without laughing every single time this jmoke says facial he just keeps saying well we do facial this and facial that does the guy ever watch porn? Does he know that this is just not an okay thing to say? Go through the checkpoint or the plane and then go off to your international destination and when you return you have those same opportunities

11:52 The next big thing for us obviously is the domestic. TSA and we're working with TSA on checkpoint. You know anything we can do to expedite It's not only more effective, but it's also more efficient clear We have already with pre-check But this is this is a separate technology that we've worked together with CBP on we're still rolling CBPS customs and Border Patrol So they're in cahoots They're colluding with the government on facial out international, but I think they're gonna be fast followers Okay, so it sounds like it might be Three to five year journey on this hard to hard to put a timeline on it because it's really the government needs that needs To own the technology they only owned the actual asset we operate with any pitfalls that We need to be aware of going into something like that. Let me think what could possibly go wrong What kind of pitfalls could there be after like that? No, I think everyone is you know sensitive about facial

12:45 You know and certainly you know with privacy I could tell you something right now, but this guy has a bet with somebody else one of his buddy. Oh yeah 20 times and I won't even crack a smile man. They'd be so cool. He will do it man Yeah 50 bucks then he went to Iran And then he went over the top and says, we're very sensitive about facial. He's like no man I'm still getting extra beer Any pitfalls that we need to be aware of going into something like that? A chapter like that? Preclusion No, I think everyone is you know, sensitive about facial You know and certainly you know with privacy being top of the list for technology companies wide-scale. The facial recognition falls into that, facial for this with the CBP though we never actually retained that image That's all through the government. The government obviously has as facial recognition already because when you go through a normal passport screening they're already matching it against against the facial figure

13:44 When were we asked as citizens of Gitmo Nation that this was okay for them, for them-thems being the government to share our facial with commercial companies? Was there an inquisition? Was there a petition? Oh it must have been when you sign your IRS forms. There's probably something in their user agreement yeah so wrong I'm really not for it and I don't know if there's any way to stop it. It doesn't make any difference this is a foregone conclusion

14:21 Nobody said, nobody's bitching about it. So if there is nobody bitchin' about it, there are no protests... There's nothing going on except you complaining in your own voice and so you're done! Well I'm gonna vote with my feet. I'm not gonna fly Delta Now I am sure this is a losing proposition because everyone will go for it but no! People love this sort of thing It's so sad It truly is and I can see the writing on the wall. We're getting to a point where I, with my Nokia E71 which provides no facial... Arrest him! I'm now suspicious You are? That's always been true. No we're getting to this point where you will be deemed suspicious if you don't carry a smartphone In fact, you know, I have a beef here

CHAPTER 06 / 51 Discussion

Joe Rogan, Ted Kaczynski, Technological Society Critique

A discussion on Joe Rogan's podcast regarding the inevitability of technology prompts a correction regarding the history of Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber. The hosts clarify that Kaczynski was a participant in Harvard LSD studies linked to MK Ultra, which influenced his radical anti-technology manifesto. They debate whether society is sleepwalking into a technological trap that Kaczynski predicted would lead to widespread disaster.

joe rogan· ted kaczynski· unabomber· harvard· mk ultra· technology

15:16 Okay, Joe Rogan had some guy on I guess worked at Area 51 and they're talking about technology and how it's unavoidable, extraterrestrial stuff. And how we're all going to succumb to whatever our overlords want us to do with smartphones and all this stuff. It's just a part of modern life... This is Joe's take. It's a part of modern life where you used have to fight off lions and tigers and now you have to fight off the facial! Not exactly sure, I didn't follow the whole conversation but i pulled the clip which was Very irking irksome to me. I don't think so, I think when it comes we're gonna embrace it We're gonna embrace it the same way you embrace cell phones the same way you embrace television There's gonna be a few holdouts. So I don't even have an email address man Those are those there's a few and far between they good luck with that fuck face go move to the woods Ted Kaczynski Yeah, I was just gonna throw dead because Ted Kaczynski was right This is something that I think about sometimes when I get really high

16:13 That Ted Kaczynski was a part of the Harvard LSD studies. This has been proven, Ted Kaczynski they cooked his fucking brain when he was at Harvard and then when he went over to Berkeley and became a professor His goal was to make enough money so that he could implement this program And live in the woods and then write his manifesto and start killing people that were involved in propagating technology Yeah Joe no Joe stop Stop stop stop. Yeah, his brain was fried it was an MK ultra program that he was in He did not go to Harvard to get rich to live in the woods and kill everyone implementing the technology I just want to set you straight on that being a student of Professor Ted And you might want to read his anti-tech revolution book which came out two years ago

17:01 What happened is he saw, he is brilliant. Saw the writing on the wall that the technological society would fail in such a spectacular fashion that hundreds of millions if not billions of people will be affected and die and we're well on our way see facials it's just it starts with the facial it ends with your death he wrote the manifesto, no one would publish it. No one would publish his manifesto and then he said if The New York Times and Washington Post do not publish this I will start killing people! And he started by sending letter bombs to university professor deans and administrators and airline executives. You nut bomber! Not because these people were propagating the technology

CHAPTER 07 / 51 Discussion

Comdex Parties, Helicopter Myths, Podcaster Responsibility

John C. Dvorak shares an anecdote about legendary parties he co-organized at the Comdex trade shows with Jerry Pournelle. He illustrates how false memories and myths, such as him arriving via helicopter, take on a life of their own in public perception. The hosts use this to emphasize the responsibility of podcasters like Joe Rogan to be accurate when speaking to large audiences.

comdex· jerry pournelle· helicopter· misinformation· podcasting

17:54 And they eventually published his manifesto and he stopped killing people. That's the true story Well these stories these stories these stories always morph that pisses me off Whatever it becomes Yeah, no and it's just okay what okay? Well. That's interesting I remember I used to throw these parties at the Comdex shows massive party party sponsors Sorry that what kind of parties just a giant party you organize parties Three people did with me Jerry Parnell and Will Hurston we found sponsors now that sounds like a party oh

18:38 It was pretty good. And so we'd have these massive parties, we have secondary parties where you have like three layers it was almost like this limelight New York, there's a back room and then there's another one. So these parties kind of came and went they did them for about six or seven years. And then...so one day this guy is telling me oh yeah these parties used to do are fantastic! He's going on and on about one of the parties he says it was really spectacular when you came in on that helicopter And I can't even imagine what he was thinking. For one thing, I've never come in on a helicopter to a party. I think it's cool, I wasn't going to deny it." It's good idea! Definitely cool. But I'm thinking did somebody come in on the helicopter? Was there a helicopter? How wasted were you at this party?!

19:29 So this became a thing where, hey man remember Dvorak's party with the helicopter and everyone goes yeah that was the best. Yeah great. Is that it? So these things just become they take on a life of their own is just like to watch you just morph into something that's total bullcrap now you just saw that within in a very small way with Rogan there And I like Joe, but come on the way when he does that he has a huge audience Everybody hears him and that's what they believe. That's what they repeat what they believe exactly So you so you have to be very responsible As a podcaster you have responsibilities, you know be more responsible than that you got responsibilities and obligations Yes

CHAPTER 08 / 51 Discussion

Senator Mazie Hirono, ICE Director Mark Albence, Immigration Hearings

Senator Mazie Hirono questioned ICE Acting Director Mark Albence during a congressional hearing regarding the conditions of family residential centers. Albence defended the facilities, noting that individuals are detained for violations of Title 8 of the U.S. Nationality Act. The hosts criticize Hirono's line of questioning, suggesting she lacks a basic understanding of the legal processes involved in border enforcement.

mazie hirono· mark albence· ice· immigration· title 8· hawaii

20:12 Okay, I got a little expose. I want to do but i'd like to i'd like you to Do something first and so if I can ease into it So what do you got give me something? You need something you need anything when there's something that's going to go along ways or just have something stupid no just maizey herono China the idiot that is going to now Go after the head of ice mr.. Albence would you send your child to? FRCs Now wait, we have to set this up. Maisie Hirono is... Is she a senator? She's the senator from Hawaii. She's pretty dumb I believe that Tulsi Gabbard is only running for president so she can take her job the next go-around because somebody needs to replace this woman and she's asking somebody uh the head of ICE whether he would send his children to not the concentration camps which is obviously the word of the day yes to these camps like it

21:11 It's like asking somebody, would you send your children to Alcatraz? I mean or would you send your children to Sing Sing. Why is she asking this got nothing to do with anything but there she goes. I think she's expecting that we have these block hotels BLOC at the border You know where it's a nice little cool. You've got all of your technology and can hang out until your paperwork is done Yeah that makes sense Maisie Mr. Albence Would you send your child to FRC Again, I think we're missing the point. These individuals are there because they have broken a law. There has to be a process... They have broken a law only as deemed so by the president with his... No ma'am, they were there for violation of Title 8

21:50 of the immigration, of the U.S. Nationality Act? Okay there are eight USC 1325 that's illegal entry is both a criminal and civil violation they are in those FRCs pending the outcome of that civil immigration process they have broken the law well these are mainly my understanding is that under zero tolerance these are no longer single civil proceedings but in fact we're criminal proceedings They were both, they were criminal proceedings when the border patrol prosecuted them but at the conclusion of that process once the individual came into ICE custody they would go through administrative proceedings. I'm confused. Well she starts off by saying the only reason we're picking people up at the border is not because they're breaking any laws there's no law it's because Trump said to pick them up Oh yeah of course! Yeah you mean the Hitler guy? Yeah Hitler.

CHAPTER 09 / 51 Discussion

Democratic Immigration Strategy, Voter Class, Border Policy

The hosts analyze the Democratic Party's stance on immigration, alleging a cynical strategy to create a new class of voters. They argue that current asylum laws are being exploited to release illegal immigrants into the country on their own recognizance. The discussion suggests that leadership like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer prioritize potential future votes over border security or the concerns of existing citizens.

chuck schumer· nancy pelosi· asylum law· driver's licenses· voting bloc

22:39 Well, she is part of a very big problem. In fact all of this immigration... because that's pretty much all that we keep talking about or WE the M5M it's just all I mean it has been immigration, immigration, immigration for how long? Since Trump got in Isn't that kind of the yes since Trump got and kinda the top story It's all immigration, immigration, immigration and it's all about a class of people who, and it's not you know single color or anything. It is a class of people who come in claim asylum and because of a very fixable law, very fixable they can't be detained after certain amount of time and then they have the absolute legal right to be released into the country on their own

23:37 What's the word I'm looking for? Recognizance. Thank you, their own recognizance and they just have to come back for their court date which a high percentage never does and so that's how you get lots of people... None of the smart ones come back no. Lots of illegal immigrants in the country And the Democrats have been using this as a major talking point, a major strategy for really one thing as far we can see. I think you'll agree John is for a new class of voters

24:14 Yeah, and that's why they want to get them driver's license so they can say show the driver's license with an address on it in the voter registrations. People will just let him vote. And this is to get votes. This is a Democrat strategy. It's really that cynical? That's kind of a question Yes, there's no other reason. It's not really for compassionate reasons a lot of the real dumb ones like Maisie Yeah are probably sincere when it was some of these thoughts are theirs because they're naive and they don't see it that way And it's just people being people and we don't need borders anyway No borders no walls what do we need borders for right?

24:53 You know, if there's somebody wants to come to California and work because they're going to be working and paying taxes. Yeah. There's no reason we shouldn't let them just waltz in borders and controls people you know people aren't illegal yeah there is a group like that sure but I'd say the smart ones Chuck Schumer's and Nancy Pelosi knows exactly what they are up too And do you think that this alienates any groups in the United States? Yeah, the ones who went through the hassle of becoming citizens. Or maybe some existing citizens and this is... I got kind of a well I got an interesting DM Friday

CHAPTER 10 / 51 Discussion

Producer Moe, ADOS Movement, Black Political Unity

A producer named Moe provides insight into the ADOS (American Descendants of Slavery) movement and its friction with the Democratic Party. The movement argues that black Americans have been taken for granted as a voting bloc and are now demanding tangible policy results rather than symbolic gestures. The hosts discuss how the Obama presidency was seen by some in this community as a final disappointment, leading to a shift in political alignment.

ados· producer moe· reparations· democratic party· barack obama· voting bloc

25:39 As I'm packing up the studio and i get a DM from producer Moe. Moe, M-O-E. Moe's from Virginia he is also moefacts on YouTube but I didn't know this at the time And Moe was black He's a black producer of The No Agenda Show You always got to break for that because what do we have three? that we know of? We have the incognigro who comes and goes but he refuses to donate anymore, and he hates us. He hates me! I think he hates ME wasn't that what your conclusion for some reason? He might...I don't know..I think it's just general so you know Moe is an adult. Moe is 38, he has got four kids You know he has a high-tech job But he DMs me says Adam uh I need to talk to you

26:28 And a little bit about Moe, he found No Agenda just before the 2016 election. Before it and get this he found the show by googling news with no agenda And so he found the show and he said, and you listen to a couple. He said, I, he said, you have me at reptile people? So he was all in once we started talking about reptile people but he's been a very faithful listener. And I think he sent me a clip or two way back of they years ago. So he kind of reintroduced himself

27:08 He said, I want to explain a little bit about what's going on with this HR 40 and the reparations. And this is what we played on the last show we talked in fact they played Burgess Owens, the former NFL football player who was one of the two Republican sponsored black people testifying and this HR40 was intended to determine two things. One, should there be a full-on reparations hearing? And two what do reparations look like is it an amount or you know who is it for etc etc and he says yeah and after listening to the show I said I really want to help you understand a couple of things and this wound up being

27:56 We really didn't stop. I direct messaged him for probably five of the nine hours on the flight, I had Wi-Fi and free Wi-Fi in the flight And so we were just direct messaging and he really rolled out for me what's going on? What I think is probably one of the most certainly interesting maybe important political stories of this very moment in time not covered by the M5M at all In fact, if anything it's being obfuscated and with intent to confuse people who certainly are not black to understand what is really going on. And I'll say up front that I understand the irony of a white man trying to explain the black man's problem

28:44 So I'm fully prepared to take some shit and this is just what i understand and how I read this story. And I have some clips an stuff, kind of back up what's going on here but this... And such! That's the term looking for This is about black America, but the real black America. And there's distinction because the problem for the Democratic Party right now as we speak is there's no unity in the black community which is no surprise! to you and I. We've been saying this about LGBTQIAPK for years, like you know this is not... You can't just say this group of people here is one group and they all think the same! And this goes for Black America as well

29:32 And he started off by saying, I want you to understand Adam that reparations in this case is not black people looking for a handout. This is not an Obama phone moment. This is for services rendered to the Democrat Party and once he said...once he gave me that line I'm like oh okay what exactly are we talking about here? He says The Democrat Party has kept black Americans, and I'm going to define what that means in a moment. A lot of these are his words and actually wrote a lot of this down on the show notes you can go back and take a look at it

30:12 They've kept black America, black people on the Democratic plantation. This is not like anything that you haven't heard before or anything new but... You know I don't have to make too many excuses for this just roll this out because i think everyone's on board with you doing this Black people want to be taken seriously as a voting bloc just like every other voting bloc and they feel like they're not being taken Seriously, they'd actually like to see how bad the Democrats really hate Trump and this is not the handout that some people are thinking it is, but what are you really prepared to do for black people this time around? Because we've been with you. We stayed with you. We've done everything we can in the past. The Democratic candidates they could just show up to a black church on Sunday before elections and oh! We got the black vote covered everybody. It's all good but the black people have been taken granted by taking for granted by the Dems for such a long time

31:09 Obama, as you and I would have suspected was the absolute last straw and people were so done with the Democrat Party. And in fact here's Reverend Manning...I think this is a clip we've played in the past our good old Reverend Manning explaining exactly the problem black people have with Obama. We gave him everything that he needed to succeed! We gave them everything he needed to lead his people! So this is the problem and they realize Obama was not a real black American.

31:59 has no African-American roots from slavery or the term that and this is I think where it kind of triggered him to reach out. I've heard this term DOS, a descendant of slaves turns out the full term is ADOS, A-Dos, however you want to say it which is American descendants of slavery which is you know I think most people can point to their descendants from slavery and say this is who I am I'm a black American So at 2016, we have Trump. He wins the presidency. The Democrats are making black Americans feel that it's kind of the black man's fault for Trump getting in and if you listen to Yvette Carnell who we've played her clips on the show previously

CHAPTER 11 / 51 Discussion

Yvette Carnell, Antonio Moore, Reparations Agenda

Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore are identified as the founders of the ADOS movement, which seeks specific reparations for descendants of U.S. chattel slavery. They distinguish their group from other black immigrants, such as those from the Caribbean or Africa, who did not share the same historical experience in the United States. The movement's agenda includes streamlining affirmative action and securing small business loans specifically for ADOS individuals.

yvette carnell· antonio moore· ados· reparations· affirmative action

31:09 Obama, as you and I would have suspected was the absolute last straw and people were so done with the Democrat Party. And in fact here's Reverend Manning...I think this is a clip we've played in the past our good old Reverend Manning explaining exactly the problem black people have with Obama. We gave him everything that he needed to succeed! We gave them everything he needed to lead his people! So this is the problem and they realize Obama was not a real black American.

31:59 has no African-American roots from slavery or the term that and this is I think where it kind of triggered him to reach out. I've heard this term DOS, a descendant of slaves turns out the full term is ADOS, A-Dos, however you want to say it which is American descendants of slavery which is you know I think most people can point to their descendants from slavery and say this is who I am I'm a black American So at 2016, we have Trump. He wins the presidency. The Democrats are making black Americans feel that it's kind of the black man's fault for Trump getting in and if you listen to Yvette Carnell who we've played her clips on the show previously

32:48 in February, it came down to one thing Trump said in his campaign. One thing! What I want to talk about today is Donald Trump you knew we were going to take Donald Trump for me to have a conversation today and I really am disappointed...I can't even say I'm disappointed at the reaction to what Donald Trump said because I'm really not. black people to go in on Donald Trump when he said that we're poor because part of the problem is that we're delusional. Like, we don't believe we're poor! We can give you all types of statistics talking about how you should give black people opportunities You should help black people But the minute Donald Trump says your poor what do you have to lose? Black People had a problem and it makes no sense Donald Trump said black people are poor He said your schools are failing What do you have to lose

33:37 And that's just the truth. I was watching MSNBC earlier this week and saw this woman, I don't know who she was on MSNBC, if you've seen her before but obviously didn't remember her But i saw her say well he is condescending to black people and not all black people are poor. And im kinda sick of hearing that because most black people are poor or in the working class, like that's poverty. We don't have any inheritance we have failing schools there are no jobs That means that we're a part of a permanent underclass I don't care what the girl on MSNB tells you who wears nice weave I don't care what she says! We're in part of a permanent underclass right now and you don't have to trust what I'm saying to you The only thing you have to do is look at the data Don't look at me just look at the data

34:28 So this was 2016 and Yvette Carnell along with Antonio Moore, who is a lawyer black lawyer. And he's done some documentaries and together they started the ADOS there's ADOS101.com and they have an actual agenda, and the whole point is hey you want to keep us voting Democrat after all these disappointments? What we need is something real, something tangible show us the money! And that's how reparations came into play but if you really look at it at the agenda its please give us something that is only for black Americans who are descendants of slavery who helped built this

35:13 help build the United States. And the argument is reparations are paid to many groups, Jews, Palestinians... Right now The New York Times wrote about gay reparations for all of the troubles that gays have been through so there's always talk about paying people and it's actual dollars being paid we pay don't we pay Holocaust survivors still doesn't the US pay Holocaust survivors money? Not that I know of. Yeah, yeah well Obama put millions of dollars out there for reparation payments. Palestinians! There's all kinds of money we're always paying somebody and

35:49 everyone's and everyone's very open to that but when it comes to this specific group, and they want to be identified as such which is important. They want to be identified as direct descendants from slavery not like Kamala Harris who was black or brown whatever you want to call her but people tell she's African-American no she's not she's Caribbean and from Jamaica and West Indies and from India So they come up with this concept and the first thing to say is we have a big ask, and our ask is put us in the same category as these other groups who do get money or other types of things. And we're not talking affirmative action

CHAPTER 12 / 51 Discussion

Mueller Report Failure, Black Agenda, Incarceration Rates

Antonio Moore argues that the Democratic Party's obsession with the Mueller report and Russia investigation came at the expense of a substantive black agenda. He highlights the disparity in incarceration rates for black men compared to other groups and criticizes the focus on DACA and illegal immigration. The ADOS movement asserts that the party must acknowledge the specific needs of the group that helped build the country's infrastructure.

mueller report· ados· incarceration· daca· immigration

36:33 because although affirmative action never was specifically meant for descendants of slavery, it kind of got hijacked. Now you know now you're gay! You can get affirmative action benefits all kinds of stuff it's really affirmative action I think from my- This is just a never ending Lucy and the football scenario Yes exactly so something interesting happens with the Mueller report We're supposed to really do in Donald Trump, so we don't have to worry about him for 2020. And of course that doesn't happen. So now there's panic

37:09 Because whoa, whoa. What are we gonna do? And we have this annoying group of people who are you know calling for stuff and then they're saying We're not gonna vote Democrat. We're gonna stay home They're not saying they go vote for Donald Trump or the Republicans like we're not going to vote for you anymore We're sick and tired of it Here's Antonio more explaining this is a this is kind of the crux of his argument So I just wanted to come to you real quick. It's a YouTube obviously and speak on this Mueller report that just came out, You know i want to speak to it from the lens of being black in America and particularly found in the ADOS movement American Dissidents of Slavery In no way do we support Trump and largely we represent a population base that votes for Democrats above 90% rate. You saw that in Texas, Florida and Georgia during the governor's races And that is just our consistent position in voting Now what I see as an attempt to make ADOS something it doesn't support MAGA It isn't a white nationalist supported organization One of things that the Mueller report brings about is The democrats really failed

38:13 how much they were going to dedicate to this. They dedicated the energy that you needed to go into 2020 with, with policy into the Mueller report Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia! One of the things that you see is now it has failed nobody wants to hold Democrats responsible for failing so bad if Trump wins again its because the Democrat's failed They failed to understand how much was there. They failed to tell their surrogates how much they need to blame other people I want to reiterate again, we don't support Trump We're largely trying to push the Democrats which we have done You read the Vox article what it quotes myself and what it says is that basically we don't want another Obama We voted for Obama at Rates Unseen and turned out at Rates Unseen meaning black Americans particularly American descendants of slavery

39:00 And so what ended up happening is that there was an expectation for agenda and then everybody said, well you never gave him an agenda. Now when black folks giving them agenda through us at the American Distance to Slavery everybody says well your forcing the Democrats to actually commit to an agenda Then they say don't support Trump Don't give the agenda to Trump They don't want us to have an agenda because our agenda attacks the very core of America It makes America acknowledge that you built a group to fail You have more black men incarcerated than all women on the planet in America, out of 20 million ADOS men. 4 billion women with the celebrity cheating scandal white women committing crimes that are tax fraud, that are male fraud and they're talking about they might not even get prisoned We give jail to literally for two black men for small level thefts to eat

39:50 And we don't know if these white women are going to get jail or prison. This all hinged, the whole democratic approach to Donald Trump going into 2020 hinged on the fact that Mueller would come back with indictments if not on Trump then at least on his son and Kushner and that also you would have a strong statement that there was conspiracy We need to focus on a black agenda and we need to focus on reparations I'm not talking about voting for Trump. I'm talking about the Democrats ignoring us and then focusing on things like immigration and DACA We are citizens here living under America, and we built America

40:30 So they start this movement and kind of like MAGA it catches fire. Now you and I would know it because guess what? We're not on black Twitter, we don't see this, it doesn't trend for us even though it should be and they have an actual agenda and people started liking it. It's in the show notes just a couple of things on the black agenda Affirmative Action streamlined as a government program only and specifically for American descendants of slavery. They want 15% of small business administration loans to be distributed to ADOS businesses and they can go on and on the idea is they want to be recognized as an actual group that is a minority group that got screwed like many other groups, and they'd like to have some benefit from it. They've been promised all this by the Democrats never received it so this group starts to grow

CHAPTER 13 / 51 Discussion

Joy Reid, Shereen Mitchell, Russian Bot Narrative

MSNBC host Joy Reid and guest Shereen Mitchell discuss the rise of the ADOS hashtag, suggesting it may be a product of Russian bot activity. They claim that accounts focusing on black identity and criticizing candidates like Kamala Harris are mimicking the community's vernacular to sow discord. The hosts of No Agenda counter that this is an attempt by the "Boule" or black elite to discredit a legitimate grassroots movement.

joy reid· shereen mitchell· msnbc· bots· ados· kamala harris

41:24 And this is a problem because, oh my goodness we can't have them getting all uppity I'll just say it and ruining our whole control over the black community. So the mainstream media comes up with this interesting little narrative that ADOS the hashtag ADOS is actually something done by the Russians! And here's Joy Reid, black woman with Shereen Mitchell, black woman talking about the trending of this hashtag. They appear to be a human but they don't have a big gap as Adam just said in the times that they've tweeted and they tweet you should you respond to them?

42:05 Generally, no. I mean off the back you should stay back and just sort of watch their engagement how many times they're tweeting what they're tweeting about and even the topics in particular And a lot of the ones that are pretending to be black people or black women in particular who are focusing on Black identity have these sort of aspects in the ways that they're talking about language If we saw the other day there was an account that was supposed to be for black supporting Howard Schultz That account was eventually pulled down, but that was a prime example of someone trying to mimic support from the black community for a particular candidate. So these kinds of things that are happening at this moment we have to pay a little bit more close attention to it because there is nuance but they're all

42:48 also identifying factors. For example, right now from the Black Identity Framework there's a new sort of hashtag and or identity that is in their bios called ADOS or DOS which is standing for Descendants Of Slaves so it's the indication that they are They are someone who was born as a descendant in the United States, who's representing black America and has the vernacular and the language that people would believe is someone who is part of our community. Who's either debating about Camilla or debating about Booker because that's just announced

43:26 And I'm trying to say we know who's the most, you know, who's black in America and making sure that they're sort of talking in this vernacular that makes it look like that they are. Black American? Yeah. Yeah. We mean, I did see a huge uptick in bot activity when it came to what Kamala Harris announced is like it just dropped like a bomb. It just happened really quickly and she was accused of being not Not really black. You can see that happening but actually there was an uptick of those bots just before she was about to announce so they were preparing for her announcement So here are two black women What? Yeah, oh yeah Here are two black women There's a bunch of bots waiting for the pounce It's worse than that Two black women who uh... Black people call boule

CHAPTER 14 / 51 Discussion

Sanctuary Cities, Black Community Backlash, Tax Fairness

During a California council meeting, members of the black community expressed outrage over sanctuary city policies, calling them racist and destructive to black families. Speakers argued that illegal immigration displaces black workers and that the "Dreamer" narrative ignores the struggles of native-born black Americans. The testimony included claims that illegal immigrants receive benefits and tax exemptions not afforded to citizens.

sanctuary cities· california· illegal immigration· black community· trump

44:16 Which is you got to look that one up B-O-U-L-E Boule and they are just saying that the people who were tweeting with this hashtag we're bots They're not they're not people. Yeah, and they're but they're more black than Kamala Harris Yes their black Americans Kamala Harris is not a descendant of slavery so when you have all this talk about immigrants, immigrants coming in and Trump has said this many times. They're taking the jobs... those sanctuary cities they get all kinds of benefits black Americans are getting screwed! This is from a California council meeting just I think two weeks ago to give you an idea of how pissed off the black community really is about the Democratic policy towards illegal immigration. And I'm not going anywhere again I say sanctuary

45:08 cities are racist. All the jobs are going to illegals and certain denominations, that is wrong! You're not gonna be allowed to get away with it your time is gonna be up you want us to feel for your family but you don't feel for our families again the black community has literally been been destroyed by racist, illegal immigration and we're not going to have it. When my people do a crime we get free strikes! Your people doing crimes they get amnesty they get benefits and they are not paying taxes Okay, publication 17 RF. They're allowing you people to blame people in Mexico I can even claim people in New Orleans when there was a flood. I could claim my people. I end up moving down there

45:58 But it's over. Thank God for Trump, thank God for Sanders and you should be ashamed of yourself! How dare you? Look at publication 17 page 25 and 26 how the hell are you allowed to claim people in Mexico and get away with it not pay taxes So imagine imagine that you already are quite aware of what's going on. You see these are replacement blacks, this is just like the Kalergi plan in Europe these are replacements for actual black Americans who were descendants of slaves who built the country and you call their kids dreamers abusing Martin Luther King's words can you imagine how pissed off you would be?

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Candace Owens, Blexit, Congressional Testimony

Candace Owens testified before Congress regarding the state of the black community and her support for President Trump. She argued that the Democratic Party has abused black voters and that Trump's policies have led to record-low black unemployment and a reduction in food stamp dependency. Owens emphasized that father absence is the primary issue facing the community, rather than the rhetoric often highlighted by the media.

candace owens· blexit· father absence· unemployment· trump

46:58 That's insane. So the idea is we've got to whip everybody into shape, you gotta shut up if you're talking about this stuff because we need one big black community because otherwise will have all these groups will become and looking for their little handouts We can't have that make them I'll make all people of color make them all black And this is why people like Candace Owens Have to be beaten down This is Candace when she was in that congressional hearing. Let me ask you something, do you hate Americans with black skin color? Absolutely not I actually love Americans with black skins colors so much that i'm willing to fall on the sword a thousand times for them to wake up and realize we are being lied too abused and used by the Democrat party. I am baffled because in the chairman's opening statement he said that you openly associate with purveyors of hate

47:49 Yes, purveyors of hate by his definition is anybody that supports the president. I support the president because he's done a tremendous job in helping the black community despite all of the rhetoric from the media and leftists who do not want him to be successful Tell me a little bit about how the president has helped the black community if you would please Well he's lowered the black unemployment rate it's lowest it's ever been in history He's getting us off our feet We see...I believe the last number I checked was 3.5 million people are off food stamps something that the Black Caucus sat down and didn't applaud, neither did any of the Democrats applaud because they want a system where blacks are dependent on the government. They are people that put in place the policies that broke down the black family and the biggest problem facing our community is father absence. In every room I've been in with the president he talks about real issues and doesn't pander to us or do Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's

48:39 southern drawl accent and speaking to us like we're slaves. He asked us important questions, and the most important question he could have asked was Black America what do you have to lose because we were already losing under Democrat leadership? So again what do you have to lose according to producer Mo that vibrated throughout the black community they all went holy crap that's not a bad thought the guy had right there! And Candace Owens is one of the drivers now although not an ADOS spokesperson at all. She's the driver behind Blexit and I don't know if you saw in the last 48 hours hashtag black not Democrat, and it's a very similar type of situation where Black Americans are saying screw it! I'm no longer on the Democrat plantation so here's the conundrum that Democrats have they're stuck between a rock-and-a-hard place they failed to have this discreditation of Trump

CHAPTER 16 / 51 Discussion

Democratic Calculus, Latino Voting Bloc, Trump's Opportunity

The hosts discuss the political "calculus" of the Democratic Party, suggesting they are willing to alienate black voters in favor of the larger Latino voting bloc. They argue that if President Trump were to explicitly support the ADOS agenda and address the harms of illegal immigration on black Americans, he could secure a significant portion of the vote. However, they remain skeptical that Trump fully understands the nuances of the movement yet.

voting blocs· latino community· ados· trump· immigration law

49:34 And they need to show the American descendants of slavery they really care, but they can't because they have this whole immigration thing which goes exactly against what the blacks want. So they can either, if they could fix this in 15 minutes as it's been said just change the asylum law and that would be such a huge thing. And I think the blacks would hop right back on the plantation It's like okay great! The thing is they're not gonna do that because of course not the blacks are one there are voting block but they're only so big Latino communities bigger yep yeah and if you keep letting illegals in and letting them vote especially in places like California Southern California in particular

50:18 That's a bigger voting block and so what? So we lose a few blacks. In fact, most of the half of the blacks if you lose half of the blacks, you do a calculation on this or as they would say calculus. You do a calculation on these numbers and you have to finally come to the conclusion that most of the blacks are gonna stick with us anyway because they just don't have any other place to go. They don't like Trump. We just call him a racist and that'll take care of that. They won't go there because he's a racist And so they do the numbers and they say, nope. Exactly! They're not going to do anything for the black community the ADOS, non-ADOS whatever ever. And reparations talk is just what it sounds like. Talk! Now how disgusting is it that the two founders of the ADOS movement Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore were not invited to the reparations HR 40 hearing? They started the whole movement they pushed for that hearing

51:20 they were disinvited. It was completely hijacked so there's... Of course, this is the way the Tea Party was hijacked Exactly! So they are pissed off The Democrats I think you're right They did the calculus they said screw it so they don't care but black America is waking up and I'll tell you if Trump wanted to secure his presidency all he has to do is this Illegal immigration is hurting all Americans. Democrats don't want to change the law, you know they could do it in 15 minutes but you know what I'm all for ADOS!

51:56 That's all he has to do. All he has to do. It takes forever for him to figure out what ADOS is! Someone could write it down for him, American descendants of slavery! ADOS! Space Force! He would clench it in a heartbeat Yeah well that's not happening Well maybe...maybe not So anyway, this is just some groundwork for us to understand the movement that's taking place. And I was most surprised by the Bule Negroes as Mo would call them who literally are at the top of the pyramid on MSNBC and keeping the rest of the black Americans down with calling them bots!

CHAPTER 17 / 51 Discussion

Media Bias, Journalist Demographics, Republican Silence

John C. Dvorak recounts his experiences speaking to groups of journalists where nearly all identified as Democrats, illustrating a deep-seated bias in mainstream media. He argues that the media serves as a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party, leading to the suppression of stories like the ADOS movement. The hosts discuss the fear and embarrassment that prevents many people from openly supporting Republican or pro-Trump viewpoints in professional settings.

msnbc· joy reid· journalism· media bias· republican· minnesota

52:39 It's disgusting. Well, if you remember I actually that woman you played...I had that clip but i had an extended version of it we played about a year ago. I have the extended clip and its one where she goes off and says something like Joy Reid doesn't speak for me! she goes off on it. I think this is it here, you know we have a community in collapse and why I despise the people that go on MSNBC like Joy Reed and the people that she has on her show because day-in and day out they lie to black people they say no Donald Trump is wrong you're doing better than that look at me I'm on TV look at me um this woman I'm interviewing she has a company and they say we're doing better than that and the truth is their lying

53:22 And they lie to us every day. And that's why I'm so sick, and I try not to personalize it but i'm sick of Joy Reid! I'm sick of the people she invites on her show. I'm sick of her speaking on behalf of black people. I'm sick of Charles Blow speaking on behalf of black people. I don't represent black people and neither do these people The data represents you though So what I want you to do is just get involved in the data Everything out everything I've said on here can be proven everything. I've said on here There's a data that supports it don't just listen to people who are lying to you and don't just believe because you went To brunch on Sunday that your apartment middle class Yeah, that was your clip exactly exactly yeah, but the so the what's the problem now is the replacement by Caribbean blacks and

54:10 And you know if you really have to dive in, I'm not gonna do that but you really have to dive into history to understand who was really doing the slave trading where the slaves could. The slaves didn't just come from Africa now it was the West Africans who were selling the slaves so there's different countries inside of Africa and a lot of the Caribbean slaves they were shipped off London got an education! So all of these so-called Caribbean blacks They are now at odds with the direct descendants of slavery. And Kamala Harris is a perfect example, and then there's just the loaded term of people of color you know imagine that Elizabeth Warren the first woman of color at Harvard I mean imagine how you got to feel

54:51 if all this is coming down. Anyway, it was nothing I didn't know or suspect but it was an eye-opener and then when you start to look at these hashtags the this new one which is hashtag black not democrat there's something big going on and it is not being covered and it's not being covered on purpose Yeah, it's not being covered on purpose because the mainstream media is the mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. Let's face it I mean we can people denied you can go and give...I've given plenty of talks to journalists only and I've done head counts and there's like one Democrat- I'm sorry there's like one Republican room full of Democrats yeah And my favorite story still one time was up with some little group up in Minnesota and this a whole It's one of these companies that owns like

55:38 20 local regional papers and I asked the question to this group, and I get no Republicans. It's like everybody lifts our hands or yeah we're Democrats and one Republican comes up to me later says you could see why didn't lift my hand And they're at the point where they won't even admit that they're Republicans anymore. It's just that bad and media is just rife, and that goes to The New Yorker magazine, New York Magazine all of them but the book publishers in Manhattan did this is just a complete takeover it's astonishing But there's also weakness on on the part of people in general

CHAPTER 18 / 51 Discussion

Fear vs. Embarrassment, Global Trump Support, Public Perception

During a cab ride in Belfast, Adam Curry noted that the driver was surprised to hear any support for Donald Trump from Americans. The hosts debate whether the lack of public support for the president is due to embarrassment or a genuine fear of social repercussions. They conclude that the media's constant programming creates an environment where honesty about political leanings is discouraged.

trump· belfast· fear· embarrassment· public opinion

56:15 And we were in a cab on the way going to the airport from Belfast and the driver, you know he's chatty like so what do you think of Trump? The keeper and I are like well it wasn't Hillary Clinton. They see a lot of good things his presentation is very problematic from time-to-time says wow oh yeah the only only...I can't do an Irish accent You're one of two Americans who have said that they have some support for Trump I said, yeah. I think the other ones are just too embarrassed there's such an embarrassment that's been rammed into people's heads they did they just can't say anything positive because... I don't even know if it is embarrassment i think its fear

56:57 Embarrassment is not the same as fear. That's a good point Well, the blacks have a problem too According to Moe he says you know people don't have a big problem with Donald Trump He could be really they in fact four more years of Trump They feel will be good but they have fear for the same reason they have fear of saying it And it's Trump by the way, it's not the Republicans. It's only Trump they see something there and you know again he had one quote that seemed to really resonate. It's the same thing so there is so much fear that no one's honest and then mainstream media just runs on and programs everybody. Fear is freedom remember? Yes well this is not going anywhere any place...it's good for our show

CHAPTER 19 / 51 Discussion

Rob Reiner, Celebrity Mueller Report Video, Deconstruction

A group of celebrities including Robert De Niro, Martin Sheen, and Lawrence Fishburne appeared in a video produced by Rob Reiner to explain the Mueller report. The hosts deconstruct the video, accusing the actors of spreading lies and misrepresenting the report's findings on collusion and obstruction. They argue that the overproduced video is counterproductive and highlights "Trump Derangement Syndrome" among the Hollywood elite.

rob reiner· robert de niro· mueller report· lawrence fishburne· martin sheen

57:44 It's great for our shows that we have at least something else to pay attention to because I'm pretty sick of the no collusion. I mean Any collusion? You didn't clip it, I don't know if you didn't clip it because you didn't want to play it or thought everyone had maybe already seen it but this Rob Reiner video That his wife produced and that he directed Holy crap With all the celebrities in it? Yeah, all of them needing makeup. Well it wasn't just that! I mean how pale is Robert De Niro?! He looked half dead! I mean he's literally white as a sheet So there's Robert De Niro, Reiner... What's his name...? Hey now! No, not Jeffrey Tamplin. The Star Trek guy does that all the time too

58:38 Sulu, come on. Yeah, Sulu was there. Rosie Perez they dug her up Christine Lottie But then you know Lawrence Fishburne You know some some respected actors and what they did is they went in they lied that whole but they were trying to do Say here's what you didn't read in the Mueller report because you're stupid and you didn't read it You should read it but don't really read it because just listen us we'll tell you what's in it And it's so... It's just full of lies And so we play a little bit and just deconstruct it as we go along. I, you know, I would have been willing to record the whole thing. You're probably right. It was my thinking well people have seen this, it's really not important in the scheme of things because generally speaking these celebrities that turns out by studies that have very little influence on anybody

59:28 And especially when they gang up like this and it just looks like a bunch of Trump haters. I didn't think much of it, but but it is entertaining from that perspective. Well there's some parts we'll just stop and if you get tired of it bail out In 2016 the Russian government attacked our democracy They interfered in the presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. There's nothing like having an actor who played the president doing this, too. That's always great when you get Sheen in there. So yeah, the Russians hacked our democracy right off the bat. It's like it's a meaningless statement they had is lie. It's a lot of outward light they may have. The difference between doing some what I would call fooling around and actually having an impact

1:00:09 And all the intelligence agencies said they didn't have an impact. So how come they always roll out these guys to say, oh they did this? They did that according to 17 intelligence agencies but when the same intelligence agency said the Russians had zero impact on the vote They never mention that and then they lie about it. I mean, this is... It's abhorrent these people! These people should be... They're beyond shame- It's beyond shameful. I decide myself when i just listen to this stuff. Rob Reiner tweeted yesterday We are up to 78 House members calling for an impeachment inquiry At this rate the most lawless president in US history may never be held accountable for his crimes

1:00:49 I gave up on the GOP cult long ago. I hate to say it, but i'm starting to feel that way about the ineffectual Dems." So he's demure! He's downtrodden! He feels like he's losing! He's giving up!! He's at a breaking point!!! In 2016, The Russian government attacked our democracy They interfered in the presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion They hacked emails, spread lies on social media and made hundreds of contacts with the Trump campaign. All this is a part of a massive covert operation to help Donald Trump become president In May 2017 the Department of Justice appointed former FBI director Robert Mueller as a special counsel... To investigate connections... Oh yeah it was so disappointing to me I like Queer Eye! I love The Queer Eye Show but now they got the makeup queer?

1:01:41 Who now has a handlebar mustache for some reason. They got him in this video, and now I just gotta hate him for this! And now I can't watch the show! It's disappointing. ...between Russia and the Trump campaign. Mueller delivered his report on March 22nd... ..and it contains the most damning evidence ever compiled against a sitting US president. I mean are you kidding me? How about Nixon?! By the way, it also contained the fact that The No Agenda Show is the best podcast in the universe. If you read it... Yeah? ...read that there! That's right how come you didn't say that huh TK? Yet virtually no one has read it and before the report- Virtually NO ONE HAS READ IT because you're too stupid and you don't care and we're here to save you! It was even released Trumps Attorney General William Barr lied about its contents See this is the whole message

1:02:35 Like, you didn't hear it right. You didn't understand it right. It wasn't reported right. You got it wrong! He told the American people that the president had done nothing wrong And Trump was more than happy to echo that propaganda Total exoneration Complete vindication No illusion and no obstruction and nothing That is an outright lie Now this is where it really irked me. Now they're gonna go into this Stephanopoulos interview which was about opposition research, oppo-research. It wasn't about secret help from governments it was about if I think the exact question was if someone came along said yeah got some oppo research

1:03:39 And Trump said, yeah I'd take it. I'll take a look at it of course you know not to go run into the FBI when someone gives you some oppo research that happens all the time in fact that's how we got here is because of Clinton funded oppo research But what do these jamokes do? They cut all the oppo part out and just make it sound like he would be happy to collude with Russians again. Knew about Russia's illegal attack on our election, they welcomed it and encouraged their help That's collusion And recently Donald Trump seated in the Oval Office acknowledged that collusion In fact he admitted that in a future election He would break the law and do it all over again Yeah John

1:04:19 He admitted he would break the law and do it all over again. And that's not quite what he said, I think you might want to listen. I don't there's nothing wrong with listening. I think I'd want to hear if you want that kind of interference in our elections. It's not an interference they have information i think i take it but we knew that Here are some other specific examples from the Mueller report. One, in the spring of 2016 a Russian operative told Trump advisor that the Russian government had dirt on Hillary Clinton. This is the George Stephanopoulos case. They're just rehashing stuff with lies! In the form of thousands of emails, the advisor then worked to arrange a meeting between the campaign and the Russian government That's collusion 2 in June 2016 Donald Trump Jr received an email offering dirt on Hillary Clinton as quote part of the Russian government support unquote of his father Don jr replied within minutes

CHAPTER 20 / 51 Discussion

Celebrity Influence, Visual Aesthetics, Show Business Rules

The hosts critique the physical appearance of the celebrities in the Rob Reiner video, suggesting they look "sickly" and "decrepit." They argue that in show business, attractiveness is a key component of persuasion, and the "unattractive" presentation of these actors undermines their political message. The segment concludes with a dismissal of the video as an arrogant and ineffective attempt to influence the public.

hollywood· aesthetics· celebrity· rob reiner· robert de niro

1:05:18 If it's what you say, I love it. Especially later in the summer." Four days later on June 19th... Okay, I think we've run out of steam here Yeah the only thing I was waiting for but we don't have to play is a certain point I want to say something about this thing overall Alright This is counterproductive for these people I don't think, yeah if you're all in 30% of the public is gonna go Democrat whatever it is. As far as they're concerned Trump's the worst guy ever or any Republican would be doesn't make any difference who it is Bush was the same way The way they present this It's so arrogant that I think there literally turning people the other way It's like what is your problem? It is beyond the pale

1:06:06 It's overproduced. These people look insane, none of them by the way are attractive And we all know and you'd think that people in show business would have a clue about this. Yeah, you gotta look kind of good for good show business career. You have to be attractive. De Niro looks like the death warmed over. Warmed over yeah he does. All these guys with maybe the exception of Fishburne look terrible. They look sickly and they look decrepit, sickly... You know what De Niro looked like? He reminded me of a hairball that cat pukes up

1:06:44 Oh God. You just, man you look horrible! The point is that they're violating all their own rules so they know better. They bring attractive people out you make... you sell, you sell, you sell in a sales way. Don't do this. This is Trump derangement syndrome. You look insane and with that I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C in any collusion John Cena Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and seat boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and All the dames and all the nights out there, and in the morning to the trolls on the polls in the troll room That's right It's no agenda stream calm that's where we get lots of feedback You can check in there 24 hours a day seven days a week We got this coupled to the knowage end of streams so he can chat you control you can

CHAPTER 21 / 51 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Studio Naming Rights, No Agenda Art

The hosts thank CZM 137 for the episode artwork and discuss the value of executive producer credits for listeners' professional profiles. They introduce a new concept for studio naming rights, where donors of $50 or more can nominate a name for the studio to be used for one month. This initiative is presented as a way to honor producers without turning the show into a commercial enterprise.

executive producer· studio naming· czm 137· artwork· donations

1:07:40 And just do whatever you want. It's it's a very free-for-all place it's a lot of fun and We like to stream live when we record the show get a lot of good feedback, and that's often good one liners from the troll room No agenda stream calm it is appreciated and then also in the morning 2 CZM 137 created the artwork for That episode 1148 which was titled Twitter rattling I have a clip on that later on, which was what Trump was doing towards Iran. And there were number of different cool pieces of artwork but we really had to go with the no agenda wine in a tube

1:08:19 Since we talked about it a lot. And he nailed it! We debated picking this art. We did, well there were other ones that we could use at another point or repurpose for something else and this was kind of one shot show you know? You can really use this one time and one time only We have a few people to thank for sure. This is 1149 yes, no agenda art generator comm it's what I wanted to say and Thank You CZ Starting with John Bassano in Huntsville Alabama three three three dot four two ITM gents you'd be our first executive producer great shows lately

1:09:03 Always really Adam get some Sharpton clips queued up, please Birthday shot to my smoking hot wife Tracy on June 23rd. Love you so much Let this donation count towards her Dame hood almost there keep up the great work guys John and Tracy Bosano He doesn't really request anything but he I guess it plays sharp things. Yeah, we'll give him some karma too Is this crap Down hog day two, we are watching that was Attorney General Eric Holder ABD's about some Republicans at home already beating the drums of war. Today the Pentagon refuted that claim and he said the American people do not want him to quote dwiddling... They do not want him dwiddling his thumb!

1:09:59 R-E-S-P-I-C-T. Oh, sorry. Karma misfired let me give it to you You've got karma Thank you very much and Tracy's on the list Ed Lou Boudier No Jingles no Karma $333 he is somewhere I don't have his Where is Lou Boudier? Keep up the great work. Good to hear from ya Ed thank you And now we need a sound effect oh Hold on a second yes I'm sorry, i'm lacking. And...I think we'll try this one. Noosebomb! Work for- NOOSEBOMB!!! Yes it's the Grand Duke! That's well he's calling himself Archduke maybe he is an arch duke. He's an arch duke. Archduke sorry. Archduke. Noosebom 314 15 uh drunk donation?

1:11:00 I see if i can get you a little bit. William Holm, Tina and Adam may the smiles and love continue with abundance! Yes thank you JCD may the mud flats be there The chair squeaks squeaky squeaky And you and yours be blessed I truly enjoyed talking to Eric in Austin I reached out to Fletcher and the pig-oat no Ike Piggett I pick it for my, uh...I could pick it. For my call-outs and for the life of me! I do not know why others haven't Not sure others will Chris Wilson Fletcher And many can get involved as due My Grand Duke-ing coming soon He's very hammered Naming the studio MY OPINION

1:11:46 It should be limited to the executive and associate executive producers for the following week. The Sunday and Thursday show announced from the studio, blah." During those episodes ideas are given in something's picked live or later at some point one of you will get the aha moment And it ends as Vonnegut says so it goes I appreciate... I just read it per se So I don't know what he is talking about Well I did have a thought about this We were talking about studio naming rights And you know, we don't want this. We don't want to have like some kind of ad or commercial because then before he knows it's like you didn't read the name right? You didn't say the studio name right and we have that meetings is that we don't wanna hear that bullshit. There you go. That's like no, there you go. No, no, no, no. But I was thinking how about it's on a monthly basis so like this morning just as a test they said This Is The

1:12:39 Sir... I've forgotten his name already. So much for the naming rights! This is the Sir Blake Soundproof Studio, because he'd sent these things over so to me it would be anyone who donates and you know that has a note $50 or above we don't read all the notes but you could nominate someone something as some kind of name for the studio And the committee, that would be you and I John. We have a meeting which will take about three minutes and we'll say okay well here's all the nominations and maybe it's someone is an Eagle Scout or someone did something whatever it is! Then we just keep the studio name for one month for that person just as an extra thing Just something nice to do Okay well that's one thought. We could have another meeting later is what I'm hearing you say

CHAPTER 22 / 51 Discussion

Bente Holt Edlich, Mainframe DBA Job Karma, Success Story

Lady Dame Bente Holt Edlich reports a successful outcome after requesting "job karma" for her husband, a mainframe database administrator. Several No Agenda producers contacted the couple with job leads, resulting in a new position starting in August. The hosts celebrate the community's ability to facilitate real-world employment opportunities for its members.

bente holt edlich· job karma· mainframe· dba· switzerland

1:13:38 Bente Holt Edlich, Lady Dame of the Dreiland deck. I think it's Bente Holt Edlich, Lady Dame of the Dreiland deck. Yeah, Dreiland deck and well that far away she is an executive associate executive producer from Switzerland at $233 I want to thank you and all the producers for the jobs karma. I asked for last month for my lovely husband a mainframe DBA dude named Ben Oh, yeah Hold on so that she said her husband is a mainframe database administrator There's not a lot of jobs because they're filled up by old dudes who can still do that work And she said gee we're really looking at hope he can find some can give him some job karma? and I think we had two or three

1:14:32 producers who contacted us and we put him in contact with them because they said, oh yes We've got a gig. We got a gig for him so something worked out couldn't be happier. It's fantastic He says he has worked his magic. He's got the job and he starts work on Tuesday 815 very odd time I know But we didn't complain And I would like to ask for some special karma to send to him for a good start to this new phase of His life I nearly went, uh...I really want this to be a success. That once you're in a job like that... Oh you should be good! Should be set! You should be good to go because these big systems are very difficult. Yep Thank you for all you do and for keeping me entertained while i commute and moo and mow the lawn

CHAPTER 23 / 51 Discussion

Canada Climate Emergency, Trans Mountain Pipeline, Carbon Tax

Producer Jim Bennett provides an update on Canadian politics, noting the government's declaration of a climate emergency followed immediately by the approval of the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion. A CBC poll suggests that most Canadians are only willing to pay $100 annually to fight climate change, highlighting a disconnect between government policy and public sentiment. The hosts discuss the "yellow vest" protests in Ottawa as a reaction to these federal carbon tax fights.

canada· catherine mckenna· trans mountain pipeline· carbon tax· justin trudeau

1:15:14 Love and Light, Bente. Lady Dane, Dame of the Dryland deck I love the introduction of lady it makes so much sense thank you for that thank you to the dame who introduced you to it It's great! Yes all right Lady Dane and here is some Karma You've got Karma Jim Bennett from Toronto Ontario comes in at $212.12 Gents, home of the world champion basketball Raptors. Oh by the way today Jim you and your Raptors can go over to the Toronto gay parade. Wow! What is this? I'm just telling them, giving us a heads up it's today's the day. Canadavia can only be considered the wellspring of environmental insanity. Well this is true

1:16:08 On Sunday, the government declared a climate emergency. A situation apparently unwarranted or warranting nuanced steps still to be determined by the likes of Enviro Minister Catherine McKenna. She's a maniac, by the way." Yeah we played a clip from her. We played plenty...we played more than one. Maybe she would just yell through the legislation in Parliament per the clip you played a few shows ago when she told intrepid bar goers that the best way to get things passed was to yell louder than everyone else. Exactly, but wait sunrise on Tuesday saw that same band of Trudeau miscreants

1:16:44 Announcing the approval of the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion. This is a big, big scandal! Oh I haven't followed this. Yeah yeah yeah. Trudeau knuckled under to the pipeline folks and everyone's all bent out of shape. Because climate crisis? I thought we were going green! Anyway already sharpening their pitchforks and garlic necklaces in response to the federal carbon tax fight We hear today from a CBC poll that the overwhelming majority of Candanavians are only prepared to pay $100 annually to counteract any outlandish global warming cooling. Hold on a second, I got a big message that just came up on my screen which we don't want to deal with. Oh brother! What happened?

1:17:32 Okay hang on hang on sounds like a Windows issue Should I stop tape No, I don't know. I just need to click a couple things here to push this off till Saturday. Don't worry buddy John's got it under control he's just gonna click a couple of things and everything will return to normal if you feel dizzy at any time just look at the ground then it will all go away. Okay we're back okay uh anyway already sharpening the pitchforks as he goes on they only want to pay 100 bucks in Canada Huh? What WTF he says. Those of us in the economically cozy climes of Ontario are now seeing why the rest of the country donned yellow vests and descended on the nation's capital, Ottawa weeks ago! This ridiculous game is up here people smell a rat! And it ain't Nick! But what I meant is that this game is up not that it's up here

CHAPTER 24 / 51 Discussion

Bailey the Dog, Karma Jingle Reaction, Cape Town Invitation

A producer from Cape Town, South Africa, shares videos of his dog, Bailey, who howls every time the No Agenda "karma jingle" plays. The hosts are entertained by the dog's consistent reaction and promise to create a special "Bailey Karma" sound effect. The segment includes an invitation for the hosts to visit Cape Town for a meetup and wine tasting in the Franschhoek region.

bailey· dog· karma jingle· cape town· south africa

1:18:30 Okay, Jim. Thanks. Thank you very much good work with your Raptors people have fun at the parade Stephen Lind in Cape Town Western Province Zaire or axes in South Africa 203 or four I haven't donated in a little while, so de-douche me right away. You've been de-douched! He travels everywhere with me, including two long commutes each day to and from work in my car. About a year ago while listening to your show on the way to work during the donation segment which I always listen to at 15x speed... I think it should be 1.5. Okay, 1.5. Bailey started howling profusely from the back seat.

1:19:27 It wasn't after your dogs or people to jingle, which ends obviously with the howl. But rather after the goat karma jingle he began to do this every time that Jingle played and eventually it became every time the karma jingle played especially the jobs Karma Hillary. It's not Hillary. That's actually Nancy Pelosi. saying that. It is difficult to capture because N A from my phone, I play NA from my phone and i can't activate the camera and continue playback but my beautiful new wife helped him help film him a few of these events and have attached them out to look at these well I can play one of the sound bits they're all pretty much the same in video there much funnier but here we go here's Bailey Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:20:16 He does that consistently whenever the karma jingle comes on. Wow! Isn't that great? Yeah, I'd like a better... That's a nice doggy howl. I'd like a little better recording so we can do it could be a Bailey Karma because it's hilarious he doesn't on cue every single time Good dog is the working towards knighthood I like to request from you a Bailey karma, which is a jobs goat Karma followed by Baileys Howell From one of the attached videos given what in other words we get it We'll get a better copy of this and then we'll do it. We will create won't create that Given the fact that I'm a dog owner and your you are you are Adam a John described dog here

1:21:07 I hope you see the glory in the attached FU clips and amazing coincidence or occurrence. Otherwise, love the show as always. Congrats on your wedding hearing your travel insights tells me you clearly don't travel nearly enough so let's do a Cape Town meetup! Good idea i'd love to do a Cape Town meet up but who wouldn't? Is that where white people get killed or is that not Cape Town? No no that using of Joe Henshaw Oh okay oh then we're good to go No, Johannesburg is fine if you're American. Cape Town is a really nice... I'm a special class of white. ...very old-fashioned place. And they speak Dutch! Don't they speak Dutch everywhere? Or Afrikaans? Well... I can get away with it. Most of them speak good English If you and John both come, I pledge to put you up and take your wine tasting once a day Once probably In the Franschhoek It's Windhoek What? Windhoek

1:22:02 No, Franchhoc is the main area. Those other places are within it usually and that means the French area. I mean it's where all the French moved to make wine Most of the wine until recently has been crap but now it's getting pretty good You won't swap your mic out for a dildo and hide it in your bag before you leave. In other words, look out! All the best from rainy Cape Town Steve Lind. Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Kind of did to Bailey

CHAPTER 25 / 51 Discussion

Clean Air Regulations, Outdoor Cooking Exemptions, Producer Credits

Ron Woodbury writes in from the "flyover states" about enjoying steak cooked on a natural gas grill despite clean air regulations. John C. Dvorak notes that outdoor cooking is often exempt from wood-burning bans, allowing residents to bypass certain environmental restrictions. The hosts conclude the donation segment by reiterating the value of producer credits and the "value-for-value" model.

clean air· barbecue· cooking· flyover states· executive producer

1:22:49 Ron, you probably wonder Steve, but you added something to that one. Ron Woodbury in parts unknown $200 Urea less the associate executive producer enjoying your show in the comfort of my home he writes which is cooled with electricity supplied from a clean coal power plant meeting steak from methane producing cattle which of course was cooked on a natural gas grill This is how we start the summer in the flyover states. All the best, Ron! I use briquettes. I'm gonna give you karma for that. Karma, thank you. You've got karma So there was a... We have over this certain parts of year we have these clear the clean-the air day or whatever they're called Oh wait not allowed to burn wood

1:23:34 Well, it turns out so I went and looked at the regs. I'm thinking clear the air clean there wherever they call it something you're not supposed to be camp use your fireplace can't do this can do that but You can use your outdoor barbecue for cooking you cooking is exempt from the rules So you go back there and torch off your oak and cook yourself a nice steak Torch off my morning worry about the air pollution fo coming over and giving you a citation all righty Is that it? Yeah, that's it. I want to thank all these folks for being executive producers and associate executive producers for show 1149

1:24:14 These are credits that are incredibly valuable. They're not easy to come by because as you can tell, you have to be an executive or social executive producer but they are recognized by people in show business people who look at profiles on LinkedIn and you can always put it into like your Twitter handle your social media It does give you standing And we really appreciate it cuz just like Hollywood would like to give you those credits up front and as early as possible And thank you again for your courage and your support of the No Agenda show. And thank you to everybody else, we'll be thanking more people $50 and above. We'll be here for another show on Thursday. You can remember us and support us at Dvorak dot org slash N A I think we've learned quite a lot from this donation segment including all about Bailey Our formula is this...we go out, we hit people in the mouth.

CHAPTER 26 / 51 Discussion

Iran Drone Shootdown, Trump's Decision, Casualty Estimates

President Trump initially authorized a military strike against Iran after the shootdown of a U.S. drone but aborted the mission minutes before execution. Trump claimed the decision was based on a report that 150 people would be killed, which he deemed a disproportionate response to the loss of an unmanned aircraft. The hosts analyze the media's reporting of the event and the context of Trump's "Twitter rattling" versus actual military action.

iran· drone· trump· straits of hormuz· 150 casualties· proportionate response

1:25:13 Righto. All right, so what do we got now? I don't know what you got well i got a couple of things let's go on and talk about you know we get this situation where world war three almost broke out And then Trump backed off and said he doesn't know what he's gonna kill 150 people. It's not worth the trouble, it's not worth the effort is not worth it because human life's more valuable than whatever. Actually before we launch into it on the last show at the very beginning We got this you know it was just breaking news that Trump had tweeted that Iran had made a mistake

1:26:00 And in fact, this is where the title of the show came from Twitter rattling. I just want to replay the clip as we received it. Yes, this is a good yeah We did that we kind of analyzed this after the show and we wanted to do it on today's showing that I and I wrote down A note to do this and then of course, I don't know where that note went It's okay because I wrote the note down as well. Maybe I just found yours So here's the initial reporting right after the tweet President's offering his first reaction now to the shootdown of an American drone by the Iranians last night The president issuing a one-sentence tweet saying Iran made a very big mistake that coming Just in the past couple of minutes at the same time we're getting information that there is scheduled to be a meeting here At the White House to gauge response from

1:26:44 to the Iranian shoot-down. The president's tweet, Iran made a very big mistake of course begging the question of what the White House and what the administration is prepared to do about it if anything any kind of response at all I spoke to Sarah Huckabee Sanders the White House press secretary just a few minutes ago she said the president was briefed last night and has been briefed again this morning on what the US military knows about that shoot down so no indication at this point of what any potential U.S. response would be but the president, I don't think you can call this saber rattling. Maybe just a Twitter rattle, but issuing a one sentence statement on Twitter here in reaction to that shoot down guys. And there's a reaction in the market. Crudel Hill is jumping on this news WTI now up 5%. So we took that the same way it was reported, which is Oh they made a very big mistake. Ah, I'm going to kick your ass. I'm Trump and when he'll kill everybody and turns out

1:27:36 It was really, he... it was taken out of context. We had no idea what the context was of this mistake I think probably Iran made a mistake. I would imagine it was a general or somebody that made a mistake in shooting that drone down and fortunately that drone was unarmed there was not- There was no man in it and there was just It was over international orders, clearly over international orders but we didn't have a man or woman in the drone. We had nobody in the drone. Would've made a big difference. Alright so we all kind of know what he said there but I just want to point out that you know this is a real problem with this headline breaking news bullcrap because apparently all they wanted to say was well they made a big mistake and uh they're lucky cause we didn't go and kill anybody

1:28:23 Well, this brings me back to somebody calling me out on Twitter for doing this again and we talk about this on the show. We try not do it and these communications on these online things is very flaky It's not a good form of communication And sarcasm in particular doesn't work because you can't get that tone in there. So, you should never be sarcastic and I was sarcastic in one of my tweets and somebody called me out and I had to admit that yes it was a mistake on my part cause I try not do this. We try not doing the show. It is a form of humor if you think your clever you do sarcasm all time and that's what Ben Shapiro big problem is because when you take these comments out of context its very easy make you look like a doofus

1:29:16 And this was a classic example of being misconstrued. Now, my favorite line... I did get a funny line off of Twitter when somebody said, when Trump says, well i'm not going to bomb them because they don't want to kill 150 and somebody's comment was worst Hitler ever! He did follow up with Chip Chuck Chuck Todd, ToddCast. He did a follow-up interview I have a clip. So did you green light something or had you said if we do it i'll do this? What was the order? Nothing is green lighted until the very end because things change right so never gave a final no but we had something ready to go subject of my approval

1:30:01 And they came in and they came in about a half an hour before. They said, sir we're about ready to go I said that I want a better than the air or planes in there about ready to go No But they would have been pretty soon And things would have happened to a point where you wouldn't turn back who couldn't turn back So they came and they said sir were ready to go We'd like a decision I said I want to know something before you go how many people will be killed? In this case, Iranians. I said how many people are going to be killed? Sir, I'd like to get back to you on that great people these generals they said came back and said sir approximately 150 and i thought about it for a second i said you know what they shot down an unmanned

1:30:48 drone, plane whatever you want to call it and here we are sitting with 150 dead people that would have taken place probably within a half an hour after I said go ahead. And i didn't like it! I didn't think it was proportionate. If that is the truth? It's very interesting By the way, I have and i'll put them in the show notes. I have the flight tracks of the drone and uh And that I have the iran Uh fir that's the the flight information region and you can see that the drone definitely passed over their airspace Can I yeah? I I Probably did and I think maybe one of the reasons they didn't do this attack even though trump has this nice story

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Drone Debris, International Waters Dispute, Intelligence Mole Theory

The hosts question the official narrative that the U.S. drone was shot down over international waters, noting that Iran possessed physical debris that would likely have sunk in deep water. A theory is presented suggesting that the mission was aborted because U.S. intelligence discovered Iran had received a leaked target list and had moved anti-aircraft assets to defend them. This "mole" theory suggests Trump's decision was based on protecting American pilots rather than Iranian casualties.

drone debris· international waters· intelligence· mole· target list

1:31:40 I have to ask the media, just if anyone was listening. The Iranian general had the drone in front of him and he was showing it to the media if it was over international waters where did all these pieces of drone come from? And does anyone ask the president, well if it was over clearly as he said clearly over international waters where do all these pieces of drone come from? Because this thing crashes into the drink. It's not going to float to shore! It's not made out of balsa wood is a big heavy craft. It is pretty much almost the size of a 737 at least in wingspan

1:32:23 It's the big drone, the Predator. And it hits the water... Boom! It goes down to the bottom. It's metal So where do all these pieces come from unless it was shot down over land and then landed in pieces landed all over the place? Did anybody bother to ask that simple question? No why would we do that That makes no sense. I don't think the president is truthful though, and... I've got information man! New shit has come to light! I think he's also being misled. The fact that they keep arguing that it was over international waters when it clearly wasn't by virtue of your tracking data and the fact that he had drone pieces in front of him Well let me play this clip again. I've got information man new shit has come to light

1:33:16 Can't back it up with any proof yet, but apparently as the fighter jets or bomber aircraft were ready to take off for their targets involving Iran US intelligence intercepted a quote communication Don't know exactly what that means That had a full version of the finalized target lists. They were ordered to destroy and The version Iran received was not the finalized list, but it was one of the lists mulled over prior to the final decision. Some of the targets on the list were sent to Iran were actually on the final target selection list upon receipt of the target list U.S satellite assets watched Iran detect a hasty moving of anti-aircraft and surface-to-air missile assets towards the targets to defend them

1:34:06 It became clear to US intelligence that American pilots could be flying to their deaths if the attack was allowed to proceed. Trump was advised of this development and he allegedly ordered the mission aborted." Sounds a lot more feasible than 150 people you didn't want to kill. Well, that tells us something if that kind of information is leaking all over the place they got to do something about this problem they have a mole! Yeah And that's, if true...that's really really problematic. It's a good story if it's true or not What I like the most is Sean Hannity who is warmonger extraordinaire! What did Iran do to Sean Hannity? Did they rape him?!

CHAPTER 28 / 51 Discussion

Sean Hannity, War Rhetoric, PBS Analysis

The hosts criticize media figures like Sean Hannity for promoting military conflict with Iran using simplistic "mathematical" arguments. They also review a PBS NewsHour segment that questioned why President Trump received casualty estimates so late in the decision-making process. The discussion highlights the tension between the military establishment's desire for action and the president's reluctance to enter new wars.

sean hannity· pbs· war· iran· military strike

1:34:53 I don't know. Listen to this part of that John McCain click, you know, bomb the gay stash. He listened to his math will have a squared b squared equals c squared radical Islamic president married two weapons of mass destruction nukes equals a potential Holocaust. That's it we can't let that happen. That's it? It's mathematical. It's mathematical job is just math. It's mathematical What a dick! It's math, people. You gotta shoot some rockets at Iran it's math. Well here is the overriding...

1:35:34 Trump versus Iran, the background on PBS minute clip gives us what we need to know. In Tehran today the Revolutionary Guard Corps showed off their catch the charred remains of the US drone they shot down but as he invited camera crews to document the destruction General Amir Ali Hajizadeh said yesterday could have been deadlier At the same moment when this aircraft was being tracked, another spy aircraft called P-8 was flying close to this drone. That aircraft is manned and has around 35 crew members. We could have targeted that plane. Six thousand miles away in an interview with NBC News President Trump described discussing options with military commanders and also said yesterday could have been deadlier They came and they said sir we're ready to go would like a decision I said i want to know something before you go

1:36:23 How many people will be killed, in this case Iranians? Came back said sir approximately 150. You know hold on just in light of what we just heard him say or what we may be true about leaked information it's interesting that he says in this case Iranians would you expect anyone else to get killed Russians possibly and also Turks It could could be anybody I'm just saying that's interesting. President Trump described discussing options with military commanders and also said yesterday could have been deadlier. They came in, they said sir we're ready to go we'd like a decision i said i want to know something before you go how many people will be killed? In this case Iranians came back and said sir approximately 150. And i thought about it for a second i said you know what they shot down an unmanned

1:37:22 drone, plane whatever you want to call it. And here we are sitting with 150 dead people that would have taken place probably within a half an hour after I said go ahead and I didn't like it. I didn't think it was proportionate." Iran says used this interceptor missile to shoot down the drone The U.S. military says it's located here, along Iran's coast. Former senior military officials tell PBS NewsHour the president was likely given options to attack that missile site, its command and control and its radar systems

1:37:58 And those former senior military and diplomatic officials say the military strike options presented to the president would have included casualty estimates from the very beginning. It's not clear why the president received that information so close to giving an order to attack, but those former officials say it raises questions about the decision-making process." Of course! What? You didn't kill people what?! Yeah let's give a little needle there... There was another analysis done this is On PBS, this is again also on the news. Our shields are on Trump and Iran. So Mark let's talk about what we are leading with tonight and that is again the tense situation standoff whatever you want to call it

1:38:39 between the United States and Iran with the latest news being President Trump had authorized a military strike but then or almost authorized and then at the last minute pulled it back. What do we make of this? Well, the president is keeping his word that he made during the campaign to be unpredictable and I think unpredictable is what this qualifies... It's a little... You don't get the sense that this has been well... Wait a minute! He could have said the president kept his word I don't want to get into new wars but no, I'm gonna be unpredictable? Was that a campaign promise? This is work of sarcasm. You think that was sarcasm? Fantastic! I think it's sarcasm...of course it is

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Unpredictability Campaign Promise, Deep State Traps, Bolton and Pompeo

A PBS analyst's claim that Trump is fulfilling a campaign promise to be "unpredictable" is mocked by the hosts as a misunderstanding of his anti-war stance. They suggest that warmongers within the administration, such as John Bolton and Mike Pompeo, may have attempted to trap the president into a conflict. The hosts praise Trump for resisting these pressures and avoiding a potentially catastrophic and expensive war.

john bolton· mike pompeo· deep state· unpredictability· warmongers

1:37:58 And those former senior military and diplomatic officials say the military strike options presented to the president would have included casualty estimates from the very beginning. It's not clear why the president received that information so close to giving an order to attack, but those former officials say it raises questions about the decision-making process." Of course! What? You didn't kill people what?! Yeah let's give a little needle there... There was another analysis done this is On PBS, this is again also on the news. Our shields are on Trump and Iran. So Mark let's talk about what we are leading with tonight and that is again the tense situation standoff whatever you want to call it

1:38:39 between the United States and Iran with the latest news being President Trump had authorized a military strike but then or almost authorized and then at the last minute pulled it back. What do we make of this? Well, the president is keeping his word that he made during the campaign to be unpredictable and I think unpredictable is what this qualifies... It's a little... You don't get the sense that this has been well... Wait a minute! He could have said the president kept his word I don't want to get into new wars but no, I'm gonna be unpredictable? Was that a campaign promise? This is work of sarcasm. You think that was sarcasm? Fantastic! I think it's sarcasm...of course it is

1:39:24 And now he goes into his analysis, which is just a jaw-dropper. Pulled it back. What do we make of this? Well the president is keeping his word that he made during the campaign to be unpredictable and I think unpredictable is what this qualifies It's a little... you don't get the sense that this has been well thought out and how the country gets on board As we, for example... I mean and this is that we are it's unsettling. I'm relieved that the president rather upset they found out so late in the game That's where we are. Are you just trying to get this guy fired? How much time do you spend on this And you could clean up the edits a little bit It's almost there. It's an eight net solid eight

1:40:20 You really don't like that guy, do you? I think he's great. Well it's fishy this whole 150 people thing is fishy... Now that i hear about the potential of a mole and somebody you know almost in fact if you're gonna take it to one level more The shoot down was part of a huge scheme to trap the United States into doing something where we're going to get ourselves into a mess. Killed, killed! And then we're gonna look like the bad guys because they probably have all the data on the drone actually being... They shot the thing down for legitimate reasons and then we go to attack them and then we get shot down in the process. The whole thing looks very sketchy Well I'm just gonna give you a horrible scenario

1:41:11 So we know that there are just incredible warmongers in the United States government, in the White House. Gay stash. Bolton and Pompeo. So these guys they have their people... What if they said look this Trump guy he's not gonna do it? He doesn't want to what are we gonna do I got an idea! We'll fly the drone We'll get it shot down, that's not hard to do. Just fly it over there and then we'll leak some of the info about the fighters so that we can get some our guys killed BOOM! You got a cocktail It's possible and its very disturbing I like that one the most because thats exactly what these creeps would do Yeah

1:41:58 And they're in a position to do it. So thank you, President Trump if that's what happened lie all you want but tell us the truth at some point about these A-holes when you smoke them out Well both those guys have gotta go and also the Hannitys and all these people that are kind of sided with them They really wanted us to get ourselves into one more of these stupid expensive wars That cost us trillions of dollars that we can't afford You know, Ben Shapiro is in that list. Yes! Yeah... Was he calling for attack on Hitler? Oh he's a huge war monger. But did we- was he actually on his podcast saying this? Attack, attack, attack? I don't listen to his podcast that much. Neither do i but I'd like to know now Well let's find out somebody will- I'm sure we have people out there that love the Ben Shapiro show And if you love The Ben Shapiro Show Do you listen to him 1.5 speed

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Cyber Strikes, Thomas Bossert, Atlantic Council

The Washington Post reported that President Trump approved offensive cyber strikes against Iranian computer systems used for missile launches. Former Homeland Security Advisor Thomas Bossert, now an ABC News analyst and Atlantic Council fellow, commented on the operation's role in defending shipping lanes. The hosts identify Bossert as a "spook" and a placeholder for the deep state, noting his departure from the administration coincided with John Bolton's arrival.

cyber strike· thomas bossert· atlantic council· irgc· washington post

1:43:00 And how much coke do you have to do it? He talks at 1.5 speed exactly, but then the Washington Post reports that President Trump approved an offensive cyber strike that disabled Iranian Iranian computer systems used to control rocket and missile launches even as he backed away from the Conventional military attack in response to its downing Thursday of an unmanned US surveillance drone according to people familiar with the matter Is this true? I don't know. It sounds that you think you hear more about it from the community The White House declined to comment as did officials at US Cyber Command Pentagon spokeshole Alyssa Smith said, As a matter of policy and for operational security we do not discuss cyberspace operations intelligence or planning Let me see... Did anyone else say anything?

1:43:53 Oh, who is this? Thomas Bossert. And wouldn't the Iranians be bitching about this if something like that happened? That we'd be hearing about it from international news sources? Well listen to this. So we have former senior White House cybersecurity official in the Trump administration, Thomas Bossert... Look him up John while I read this. Bossert b-o-s-s-e-r-t Why did he leave? He says..he's quoted in The Washington Post This operation imposes costs on the growing Iranian cyber threat but also serves to defend the United States Navy and shipping operations in the Strait of Hormuz. He's saying that as if he knows something

1:44:30 He continues, our US military has long known that we could sink every IRGC Iranian Royal was it? I don't know. IRGC vessel in the straits within 24 hours if necessary and this is the modern version of what the U.S Navy has to do to defend itself at sea and keep international shipping lanes free from Iranian disruption This is a former guy, so there's no one from... No official spoke on the record about this but yet the headline Trump approved cyber strikes against Iran's missiles. So that's more deep state shit Yeah Bossert is some Atlantic Council guy with George W Bush administration. He attended George Washington University. Young guy Did he get fired?

1:45:24 He's a Homeland Security Advisor to US President Trump, or he was. Yeah And he is currently ABC News Homeland Security Analyst Say no more Immediately before as a fellow with the Atlantic Council and then he is a Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to George W Bush in that capacity Co-author of the National Strategy for Homeland Security Prior to that he had positions at FEMA Yeah, office of the independent council and that House of Representatives also appointed as director of infrastructure protection under Bush Overseeing the security of critical us infrastructure. He's a spook Spook he's got spoon written all over looks like one too except these wearing a white shirt instead of his light blue well I'm gonna talk to uh I'm gonna contact the channels

1:46:09 and see if our idea may be right or not about this deep state. Really sickening to think, but it fits perfectly! It just seems so odd... This guy quit when Bolton got in. Now as soon as Bolton got in he left now He said that he resigned the day after Bolton got in I'm wondering whether this was a guy who is a placeholder For the deep state he cues in there and then Bolton comes in. Okay, you got any hands a baton handoff? Yeah possible I just I just The whole hundred and fifty dead people thing is what really just doesn't fit that Trump buying it It doesn't fit the Trump mold No You know, it just doesn't fit it unless it was 150 of our guys He says in this case Iranians sure so 150 Iranians maybe more us. I don't know

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Hong Kong Protests, Extradition Bill, Crowd Discipline

Massive protests continued in Hong Kong as demonstrators demanded the complete withdrawal of a bill that would allow extraditions to mainland China. The hosts marvel at the "crowd discipline" shown in viral footage of protesters parting for an ambulance. They speculate whether these protests could serve as a dry run for similar movements in Beijing against the leadership of Xi Jinping.

hong kong· extradition· xi jinping· protests· crowd discipline

1:47:07 But it just doesn't feel right and then you take all this... It will start to reveal itself. I hope so On our show Yes Meanwhile, yes? Got some updates on some action around the world Okay China's back at it, and Hong Kong is still irked because this situation hasn't resolved itself. So we can get an update there very soon. There were fresh protests today demanding that city leaders scrap a proposal allowing extraditions to mainland China More than 1,000 demonstrators wearing black rallied outside the police headquarters and government buildings Others marched in the streets and put up barricades but there was no violence

1:47:52 I really like the power of numbers in this one. It really shows you what people can do if they can actually band together Yeah Did you see that in Hong Kong some of that aerial footage where an ambulance needed to get through and the people just parted beautifully? Yeah, wasn't that great? Like that is some- That's some crowd discipline right there I don't know if that's possible in the West. Not here, no. But it shows you get a million people and all of us... Oh man they don't want any of that in like Beijing imagine Beijing You can get a couple million people hey we're kind of sick and tired of you Xi. It'd be five million yeah they have five million people shut down the place now That's something I'm sure someone is working on

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Philadelphia Police, Facebook Posts, Plainview Project

Seventy-two Philadelphia police officers were placed on administrative leave following an investigation into offensive Facebook posts by the Plainview Project. The hosts argue that many of the flagged posts were examples of "gallows humor" or sarcasm that have been taken out of context by activists. They characterize the investigation as a "witch hunt" designed to frame the police as enemies of the community.

philadelphia police· facebook· plainview project· racism· gallows humor

1:48:40 They did pretty good with this Hong Kong operation, had nice signs all professionally printed. You know people were we're all prepared and rallied for this yeah if they could get that done in Beijing that would teach Xi Jinping a little lesson I think something would happen maybe it was a dry run for them. It might be a dry run you never know it's possible it's a hell of a dry run well people were in on it they agreed like yeah we don't want this happening So there was about, they laid off 72 cops in Philadelphia who were busting. This happened by the way this is a big trend right now they're busting cop putting cops on leave if they post on Facebook this is an old what is it old story cops busted for Facebook posts? Oh yes I saw this just before we went to our honeymoon

1:49:34 Do you want me to play the clip? Hundreds of police officers around the country are taking heat tonight for public posts that they made on Facebook. Here's the problem, a lot of people think the post were violent racist and sexist Police in Philadelphia are among those under investigation and Don Daler is there The people at this rally outside the Philadelphia police headquarters weren't surprised by what they read in the racist social media rants. But Solomon Jones, one of the protest organizers says the brazen public display took it to a different level It's a turning point because they felt the license

1:50:13 to engage in hate, in a public way. And what that says to me is that there's a culture that allows it to happen." The Facebook post in question contained discriminatory opinions. If our country was all Caucasian the homicide rate would drop 70 percent. Perhaps we should be very suspicious of all Muslims in this country said another or encourage violence. It's a good day for a chokehold. They were collected by the Plainview Project, a group of lawyers and activists who over two years painstakingly reviewed the Facebook pages of 3500 current and former police officers in eight departments Dallas & Denison Texas Lake County Florida St Louis Twin Falls Idaho Phoenix York Pennsylvania and Philadelphia

1:50:59 where over 300 officers were flagged for allegedly expressing racist, violent or misogynistic views. I want the 328 officers who are on active duty to be taken off the street right now because it says to me that your mindset is one that you don't feel my life is valuable All eight police departments have said, have issued statements saying they found those posts objectionable. Four of them had put some of their officers on temporary desk duty pending investigations now different departments have different policies about this kind of behavior but David only St Louis has referred the matter to a prosecutor

1:51:37 You know what's too bad about this story is that there's no way, since it has all been deleted and closed down. There is no way to really read any of these comments in context. Wrong! It's still up? The original comments are not still up, but Plainview the website that tracks it literally finds cops and tracks them. And then reposts their comments with the follow-ups and all the rest of it. That's still there, it's called The Database Have you taken a look at it? Of course I did! Let's talk about it tell me It's lame It's a bunch of cops, this is classic guys getting the cops you know they're saying something like you know they repost a bust of some drug operation and then one cop jumps in says it's good day for a chokehold.

1:52:29 juvenile comments, reposting of meme after meme after every meme that comes out. We can't have Sharia law in this country and then to have some meme of some you know any number... Oh! So it was a lot of sarcasm? It's a lot of sarcasm, I'd say probably mostly sarcasm. Mean-spirited comments that are just part of the job it seems to me but it's nothing worse than what the public is posting? I think this is a witch hunt! I think it's bullshit! Well who was... you know this is another big part of democratic strategy

1:53:10 to position all police as the enemy of the blacks. Yes, this is part and parcel that I don't have the background on this Plainview operation but there's a lot of Democrats and they are...I think a lot of these cops are being railroaded and worse, of course again you know what? You have to have some circumspection but apparently these cops don't have it Worse is they track certain specific cops. So in the database you can actually look up a cop and get all of his posts from everywhere, which I think is a violation of privacy or something. And it's posts from closed forums and Facebook and things like that I don't have access to because I don't care

1:53:53 And it's a lot of it is extreme. There are yes, there's a few bad apples in there very few the rest of them are being railroaded as far as I'm concerned for just being a normal person on Twitter reposting, mostly reposting lame memes and a lot of... There is a lot of anti-Muslim sentiment amongst these cops but it all has to do with Sharia law. It's bullshit! This story is not well presented and this the way its going and mainstream media is all in on it but you can go look at how these things are all there and after awhile you'll go what's the big deal?

1:54:30 I see worse stuff on, if you go to Rob Reiner's feed you see worse stuff. More hate yeah well in this day and age um... You have to be cognizant if you are in a position of power and carrying a gun is a huge position of power one of the ultimate ones And people are very sensitive and you know everyone gets taken down. There's deplatforming everywhere, cancel culture is rampant so yeah you got to be careful even with your humor and your sarcasm and I'm sure that there were some real dickheads in there no doubt about it and those have to be weeded out but I can see knowing a lot of cops that you know there's what we call it gallows humor

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Austin Homeless Ordinances, Camping and Panhandling, Mayor Steve Adler

The Austin City Council, led by Mayor Steve Adler, voted to remove ordinances forbidding camping and panhandling in public spaces. Police Chief Brian Manley clarified that officers can no longer intervene unless a person is posing a direct safety hazard or blocking a right-of-way. The hosts criticize the decision, predicting it will lead to the same "quality-of-life" issues seen in cities like San Francisco and Seattle.

austin· steve adler· homelessness· camping ordinance· panhandling· brian manley

1:55:18 Yes, that's exactly what we see a lot of in these posts. Gallows humor and I think We'll see some of that in Austin In fact, I've already received some emails with this type of gallows humor from APD And unfortunately, I was not really The only bummer about our honeymoon is they had the big Austin City Council meeting on Thursday where they removed the ordinances, the city ordinances forbidding camping and panhandling in the City of Austin. And I have a report and I guarantee you we're gonna have a lot of gallows humor from cops and poop is on its way! Several other major cities that allow camping within city limits

1:56:10 In Seattle, camping is also legal except in parks. And San Francisco an appeals court ruled last year that cities could not criminalize people for sleeping or camping in public areas if shelter isn't available and in Portland camping is only banned on public property and public rights of way. Now we'll have to establish that the underlying... This is a cop, this is top cop in Austin who's talking. On public property and public rights of way. Now will have to establish that the underlying conduct posed hazard or danger to someone before we can take any action

1:56:47 As KXAN's Yujin Cho found out, that last part about camping still has many people worried. Police Chief Brian Manley told the City Council under these new changes if you set up a tent say here on Congress Avenue police cannot make you move as long as you're not blocking the public right-of-way an entrance to a business or as long as you're not posing safety risks to yourself or others this is about the next student who will be groped followed assaulted or possibly murdered These are students from UT. The West Campus area, we were chased it's not pleasant to be so frightened some people worry about safety and what will happen to downtown streets since people can now set up tents without getting cited but the mayor says the city manager has been directed to come up with guidelines later this summer for safe places to camp and other solutions for homelessness

1:57:36 He doesn't think a tent city will be an issue in the meantime I just don't think we're going to see that kind of thing happen over an eight-week period of time if it does and there's gonna Be a lot that were going to be able to learn and apply Yeah, big middle finger to you mayor Steven Adler. Can you believe the gall of that guy? Oh, I don't think we'll see it We get to learn if something happens Wow, that is just unbelievably ignorant of what is happening in every Democrat-run city in America. It boggles my mind! But you know then again you go up to Seattle and the public seems to be they've seemed to put up with it? They don't vote these people out but they don't... Oh no I'd rather have him than a Republican

1:58:38 Don't be mean to the homeless. I mean, we can find ways around this and we can make things work As you know the note that i read a few shows ago This isn't it's not just for camping is for all class B and C or maybe C and D misdemeanor. I'm not sure exactly which ones I'd have to look at the note So same go for shoplifting You know all of this stuff Yeah don't bother prosecuting any of these things. So what was interesting as... So petty crime, low-level petty crime including breaking the windows of your car to grab something in the front seat or stealing from a store while you're hungry, stealing from a store shoplifting knocking someone over just gut punching someone walking down the street minor assault all these things are legal

1:59:31 in cities like San Francisco, Seattle is going there. Portland's up there I think already according to some people and I complain Yeah, it's going to happen. It's the Philadelphia is going on attacking the cops there. This is a joke and I don't understand why people are putting up with it to the extent that they are. A lot of these millennials who do our non confrontational, they're largely responsible for this problem. They bitched to each other and they bitch around at dinner table but they will not confront anyone. This is where you use like the phenomenon I picked up on. I'm ordering some pizza

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Millennial Communication, Pizza Ordering, Unhoused New-Speak

The hosts discuss a perceived shift in millennial behavior, noting a preference for online interactions over direct phone calls, even for simple tasks like ordering pizza. They link this "non-confrontational" vibe to the adoption of terms like "unhoused" to describe the homeless population. This "new-speak" is criticized as a form of performative compassion that fails to address the underlying issues of urban decay.

millennials· communication· pizza· unhoused· compassion

2:00:08 So I said, well, I'm gonna call in a pizza. He said why don't you just order it online? And I said why would I do that? I don't know what's going on with their back end. I'm gonna call them and order the pizza. Oh okay how do you... They were like baffled by this because they never call to order a pizza. They always do it online. They won't talk to people. It's too much! Really? Yeah Just going back for a second, and this fits into the millennial vibe. So the city of Austin has a City Council website and I wanted to review the PDFs of the documents while we were on the plane flying over...flying back! And I could not access any of these PDFs that kept getting corrupt it's you know so I tweet Mayor Adler and I say hey

2:01:08 Your site is broken. Not a single one of these PDFs is downloadable, please fix." Well no agenda nation jumps in and they're like holy crap this is a cold fusion website that shit was outdated in 2011 what's going on Austin? And they just pile on so by the time we land it was fixed I like that part so we're on the radar somewhere someone heard figured it out or Adler went oh fix that And I if there's anything really good, I'll have an analysis for the next show But here's one of the main terms the main reasons why these ordinances have been removed it is because of the quote quality-of-life challenges Of the unhoused. Is that some new speak or what? The unhoused yes the quality-of-life challenges of the unhoused

2:02:04 So the way they view it is homeless and by the way people who panhandle aren't all homeless but okay we'll just presume you're kind of being a bigot if you see someone pan like oh, you must be homeless that guy's walking around crazy must be homeless maybe he's just crazy maybe some drugs maybe there's something else maybe these grief-ridden I don't know no no he's unhoused And therefore, as quality of life challenges that we just can't comprehend. So we need to have compassion and that's exactly it the compassion. The compassion is what screws it all up and that's the millennial vibe. Oh yeah kind of compassion

2:02:51 Yeah, I agree. It's sickening. Well it's not gonna get any better because these millennials still won't call in a pizza waiter. Yeah well i'm a homeowner now. I'm a taxpayer in Austin there's a new sheriff in town there's a new sheriff from town and I got Mimi Dvorak soufflé-ing me into my ear letting me know what I'm supposed to do and I got some points to make at the next city council meeting Tina is going to be so embarrassed Well, it just takes getting used to. Let's go update another thing we got going on here which this is not being covered much We got a little action between Georgia and Russia again. Oh my goodness! Violent anti-Russian clashes though did break out overnight in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia, and at least 240 people were hurt some were left bleeding after police fired rubber bullets and tear gas at demonstrators who are trying to storm the Parliament building in Tbilisi, the capital

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Georgia Anti-Russian Clashes, Pipeline Geopolitics, Tbilisi

Violent anti-Russian protests erupted in Tbilisi, Georgia, resulting in over 240 injuries as demonstrators attempted to storm the parliament building. The hosts suspect the unrest is tied to regional pipeline geopolitics and the long-standing tension following the 2008 breakaway of Georgian provinces. They note that the story has received very little coverage in Western mainstream media.

georgia· russia· tbilisi· pipelines· protests

2:03:47 Anti-Russian feeling runs deep in Georgia after Moscow helped two Georgian provinces break away in 2008. What's this all about now? I have no idea but somethings up and it is not being played out by anybody, I mean PBS had it but that was about it. Somethings up! I think this is us again Well, there must be some pipeline action that we're not agreeing to because that's what it always is. That region is all about the pipelines. It's all about the pipelines. Shoot! If I had known this, I would have looked into it but I'm making a note now so write this down Georgia Pipelines... Who's running the show there now? Not that guy eats his tie. I have no idea. They kicked him out with the Dutch right? He'd been off the radar for so long and then this crops up

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German Climate Protests, Global South, Polar Bear Myths

Organizers estimate that 20,000 people gathered in Western Germany to protest the European Union's failure to reach a carbon-neutral agreement by 2050. The hosts mock the protesters' claims about the "Global South" and the use of "hungry polar bear" imagery to drive climate anxiety. They characterize the movement as a nonsense exercise driven by millennials who are easily manipulated by environmental narratives.

germany· climate change· global south· coal mines· polar bears

2:04:34 Okay, here's another. Let's go with this one climate change protests in Germany This is the Millennials back to the Millennials Protesters from across Europe gathered in Western Germany today to call for action on climate change Organizers estimate 20,000 people fill the streets The protest came a day after the European Union failed to agree on a plan To make the EU carbon neutral by 2050 Simply a shame and terrible what happens Germany, among other industrial nations is one of the countries mainly responsible for climate change and we do not feel the effects yet in comparison to countries in the global south. And it is simply essential to take to the streets against it and to protest." Today's rally took place near one of Germany's largest coal mines

2:05:21 So this millennial comes out and says that we're not feeling the effects because there's nothing going on, but that's okay. Except they are in the global South. What she talking about? Africa Australia what? The Global South America is feeling this the uh, the global warming prize it is the tides going up there and then I going up here well you know there was a There was that lone polar bear walking around somewhere did you see That wasn't like everyone's like Oh hungry polar bears It's like they just go it's just a rotation. It's just rotation Ireland is set to ban private cars Within within 15 years and just no yeah, no more cars work here's the one that Ireland

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Electric Vehicle CO2 Study, Battery Lifespan, Nuclear Power

A German study suggests that electric vehicles (EVs) may not significantly decrease CO2 emissions when accounting for battery manufacturing and the carbon intensity of the power grid. The hosts discuss how the energy lost in transmission and the processing of lithium contribute to a Tesla's overall carbon footprint, potentially making it worse than a modern diesel engine. They argue that EVs only make environmental sense if the grid is powered by nuclear energy.

electric vehicles· co2 emissions· tesla· lithium· nuclear power

2:06:09 There was an interesting counter, well it's now a discussion. You probably know something about this because you've tested electronic vehicles quite extensively and driven quite a number of them so the Brussels Times reports whatever the Brussels Times is sounds like a website that a new German study exposed how electric vehicles will hardly decrease CO2 emissions in Europe over the coming years as the introduction of electric vehicles will not lead to reduction CO2 emissions for highway traffic. And what they do, and this is why I'm asking you how correct this is, is they take a whole bunch of other things into account that make in this example a Tesla run. So I'll just read this one paragraph...

2:06:58 Each battery pack has a lifespan of approximately 10 years and total mileage of 94,000 miles. That would mean 73 to 98 grams of CO2 per kilometer 116 to 156 grams of co2 per mile add this to the co2 emissions of the electricity from power plants that power such vehicles and the actual tesla emissions could be between 156 and 180 grams of co2 per kilometer which apparently is worse than a modern diesel engine Now, I don't know if this is a fair comparison. You generate power at a power plant and then you send the power over transmission lines where it loses like, a lot of energy just in the transmission. And by the time it gets to the car, the amount of CO2 produced by the power plant is compared to how many kilowatts you get into the batteries, is generally pretty high. Now if nuclear power was at the back end of all this... Different story. Totally different story

2:08:13 And also the manufacturing of the batteries, in that case you're gonna chew up a lot of energy in the processing of lithium. But just taking that out of the equation if you went all nuke this story would be totally different but they're not going to go that way with their arguments because... Chernobyl! You know it's just.. It's the real mystery of this whole thing No, it's not a mystery. These people don't want it solved because then they're out of business! The solution is clear... There's also the element that maybe they're just trying to take down Western civilization Well here's the good news I'm gonna be gone in 35 years no? No, I'm gonna do 40 screw y'all I wanna be old and cranky so I can just watch this demise from my rocking chair you guys have to live a lot longer with this bullcrap good luck with it

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Associate Executive Producers, Meetup Logistics, Value for Value

The hosts read a long list of associate executive producers and donors, thanking them for their financial support of the "value-for-value" model. They mention a producer in Portugal who helped facilitate a high-end experience for Adam Curry during his recent trip. The segment reinforces the idea that the show is entirely listener-supported and avoids traditional advertising.

donations· executive producers· value for value· portugal· jeff

2:09:09 Not not being cynical nothing's happening. Anyway, it's just a nonsense exercise and the Millennials are again the world's biggest suckers Can I just say hey trolls? I'm gonna go be older than 75 Okay, please give me a break there so mean I'm so happy Yes. Okay, we had climate change now let's go you want to go to Bernie? Bernie still I think in play... Well tell you what do you want to take a break and then and then do it 2020 update yeah let's do that. Well, we're starting off with thanking a few people here for 1149. With Donald Borosky the Viscount of Eastern Washington and fire bottles 12345 he didn't send a note in on any official paper just no jingles no karma for him We appreciate it thank you sir Donald Clare Thornhill $110.18 What's this number? Richard Oh that's a shape-shifting Jew donation I guess within 18

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Birthdays, No Agenda Meetups, Baronet Title Change

A list of upcoming No Agenda meetups in London, Seattle, and the Netherlands is shared, with a special mention of a potential Chicago gathering. The hosts also announce a title upgrade for Sir Loud Pipes, who has achieved the status of Baronet. They encourage listeners to attend local meetups to build the community and interact with fellow "producers."

birthdays· meetups· baronet· london· chicago

2:17:55 It is the 23rd of June 2019 where does the time go we've got birthdays for today first belated Lisa Stelter says happy birthday to her husband Paul he celebrated on the 20th I think we might have missed that one up so apologies and happy birthday belatedly Paul Lindsay Heitman's his happy birthday to Bill in Arlington and says thanks for hitting me in the mouth and being the best friend a girl could ask for. John Balsano says happy birthday to his smoking hot wife Tracy she celebrates today as does Mark Mensick's daughter-in-law Brittany, happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!

2:18:39 It's like a party! That's right, here is your meetup list. You can find them all at noagendameetups.com the 27th of June Southeast London reconvenes... oh South East London convenes and we have Southeast and Southwest people pay attention The 28th, Salem Oregon 29th South Florida meetup July 4th Seattle July 6 Utrecht in the Netherlands. July 9th Knoxville Tennessee the 11th and Charleston We've got Atlanta Georgia on July 13th Southwest London on July 20th July 26 St Louis July 27 Buffalo New York July 27 Frisco Texas And wasn't there a Chicago meetup coming soon?

2:19:21 I think it's this weekend maybe or next. Oh, that's too soon shoot really Atina and I want to go to the Chicago meetup It was too soon well Maybe maybe the next one and John no I don't know just you got to go to their website to find out No agenda meetups calm I'll check it later on And this is kind of our pledge, and I think you're gonna do a two John we're gonna We're gonna try and do some more meet-ups attend them ourselves because it really it's fun enjoyed very very much Let's see, oh yes of course we have this. This goes out to Sir Loud Pipes. You heard from him earlier with his donation on the Best Podcasting Universe, he has upgraded his status to Baronet and of course still Knight Of The No Agenda Roundtable brand new title Baronet thank you very much for your courage and again everybody should consider supporting this show go to Dvorak org slash NA

CHAPTER 40 / 51 Discussion

Bernie Sanders, Minimum Wage, Walmart and the Waltons

Bernie Sanders appeared on Fox News to advocate for a $15 federal minimum wage, targeting the Walton family's wealth as a justification. Sanders argued that taxpayers are effectively subsidizing Walmart's low wages through social programs like Medicaid and food stamps. The hosts acknowledge the simplicity and effectiveness of Sanders' pitch, even as they remain critical of his overall socialist platform.

bernie sanders· minimum wage· walmart· walton family· fox news

2:20:25 No nightings. No, no it's the summer they're all on that 10th car on the Zephyr. Apparently. I'm gonna do some 2020 stuff Bernie crazy Bernie. Yeah I got some Bernie clips I want to play ones belated but there's a couple of things that come out just strike me Let's try well first of all let's talk about Bernie. Bernie has got a good pitch when he goes on Fox, he has guts He goes on Fox and does this kind of socialist pitch that is misleading but it is very attractive I think really if they gave him...Bernie would be the guy who could easily beat Trump If they played him properly but they won't do it

2:21:04 because they don't want Bernie in there so he's not going to make it. But let's go Bernie on minimum wage and Walmart for starters. Federal minimum wage, and Congress which you're a part of is not doing anything to raise that. So why should Walmart raise its wages on its own when it's already paying more than is required by law? Whoa whoa whoa When you say Congress is not doing anything, let's be clear. I'm not saying you're not supporting it but go ahead Well actually it is my legislation that is the dominant legislation in the Senate so lets be clear its not congress it is republican leadership So, I have asked Mitch McConnell who apparently supports the $7.25 federal minimum wage... Now let me be clear! I think a 7 and 1 quarter minimum wage right now is a starvation wage it is a disgrace Minimum wage has not been raised in 12 years

2:21:54 So I am pushing very hard to make sure that we have a $15 minimum wage so if you work 40 hours in this country, you can live with a shred of dignity. That's not a lot of money Now, I went to Walmart in Bentonville Arkansas To make this point That the family that owns Walmart is the Walton family. As you may know, Donna, the Walton family is the wealthiest family in America they are worth a hundred and seventy five billion dollars 175 billion They should be able to pay their workers a living wage at least eleven dollars an hour

2:22:33 And now you have the absurd situation that because they have a starting minimum wage in Walmart of $11 an hour, you got many thousands of Walmart employees who are forced to go on Medicaid food stamps and public housing. And guess who pays for that? It is the taxpayers of America! I don't think the ordinary taxpayer should have to subsidize the wealthiest family in this country. I just think that is a fabulous, simplistic argument and it really nails it. He's got to tighten it up though! Well he's not going to tighten anything up. You know interesting that I asked producer Moe are there any black celebrities who actually get it and are talking about ADOS? Says yes one killer Mike but he's all in on Bernie which is interesting

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Killer Mike, Tavis Smiley, Second Amendment Advocacy

The hosts discuss the marginalization of black public figures like Killer Mike and Tavis Smiley who deviate from the Democratic Party line. They highlight Killer Mike's advocacy for the Second Amendment and the idea that the black community should be armed for self-protection. This segment explores how the media "disappears" individuals who challenge the established political narratives of the left.

killer mike· tavis smiley· cornel west· second amendment· gun control

2:23:22 Yeah, Killer Mike. Well, Killer Mike was one of the last guys that used to have a smiley before he was railroaded out of his job. Haven't heard from him recently? No it's because they took him and they took him out because he was little too liberal I mean in an old-fashioned sense if he was like for guns He thought that the black community should know that they should be armed to the teeth And him and killer Mike talked about gun control we had a clip of it And how blacks needed to be armed. It was like, why would you want to take your arms away from the black community? That's the only way they can protect themselves. Boom! Out! Get him out of here! Let me see... We have a couple there. Your voter phone bank lineage descent 55 years maybe this is one of your clips I think

2:24:11 that black people have learned to the extent that we love this country whatever that means, that we have learned to love this country in spite of and not because of. I love America! This is a it's an important... That was a long clip was this yours? Yeah thing for me to say, because unlike a lot of other people in this country black or white I've traveled the world. Right? You know, I ain't just traveled a couple of states where I went and States with my grandparents on vacation but i've traveled the world and there is no other country with the type of opportunity Yeah did...I don't know where the guns part is. I don't know where that's going but thats okay yeah he uh..the two of them are big you know And then also Smiley went off with Cornell That guys uh...yeah Cornel West

2:24:56 Cornell West, he went out on the road with him to condemn Obama. So him being all for the Second Amendment and condemning Obama was Cornell who also disappeared they disappeared him You know, just sidelined him. They basically did the same thing they would do with Ray McGovern and everybody else that the media doesn't agree with. They just push them all over the edge and you can go find work on your own, you bastard! And that was in to have a smiley so... I don't know if you can actually get your message out by starting a podcast. So Bernie's- If you were to just restate what Bernie said? What is his message? What is this pitch?

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Democratic Socialists, Public Ownership, Working People Myth

Bernie Sanders and the Democratic Socialists of America are criticized for their goal of having "working people" run the economy and workplaces. The hosts question the definition of "working people," calling it a mythical term used as a code for socialist or communist ideologies. They argue that the phrase is a "fellow traveler" signal rather than a substantive policy description.

democratic socialism· public ownership· working people· communism· bernie sanders

2:25:38 His pitch is that why are the taxpayer essentially subsidizing the workers at Walmart by giving them food stamps and all these other things because Walmart won't pay him a living wage, and they use the taxpayer as backup. There's no reason for it to just make Walmart pay him more And you can do that through legislation. That's Bernie's message, right? Well it's been out there for a while Yeah well he sees only one seems to be continually pushing here's this other one and this one kind of gets Brings a question up in my mind This is Bernie and the mythical working people being at all sir Let me drill down on that because here's what Maria Zavart the executive director Of The Democratic Socialists for America told The New York Times last year

2:26:25 Our ultimate goal really is for working people to run our society and run our workplaces and our economies. And back in the 70s, you seem to agree. Here's a quote from you. I favor the public ownership of utilities banks and major industries senator Do you still believe that in the public ownership of major industries? And if not, why? I live in the city where I am right now. We do have public ownership of our electric department and they do a pretty good job. A lot of electric departments all over this country are publicly owned. Do I believe that workers should have more say and be sitting on the boards of large corporations? Yes, I do! Do I believe we should break up

2:27:11 some of the major banks on Wall Street and support credit unions and community banks? Yes, I do. So I think really one of the things that we have to look at is the fact that power in this country rests with just a handful of people you got six financial institutions that have assets equivalent to 54% of the GDP Six institutions control the flow of trillions of dollars. When we talk about democracy, it means not just voting every two years is giving working people more of a say in what goes on in the economy. So here's what I ask couple things first of all why doesn't he promote our wealth tax which have an essay that I'll be putting out cosmic cosmic wine Oh good always like a cosmic winning yes but you will explain my position

2:28:00 But who are these mythical working people, working people? Who are these working people talking about the gardeners or they're talking about the guys at the toll booth. Are they talking about somebody on an assembly line one of them at the Tesla factory I mean what is this working people and why should it be given so much power their slave wage slaves is what he's talking about And they can be anybody. I mean, we're working people from a basic definition right now we're working So is it just anybody that does anything? You garden in your own backyard, you pound a nail in your house. Does that mean you're a worker or working... This is bullcrap! The working people, the working people everybody's a working person at some level. So what is it code for then? It's code for something. Code for the poor I don't know what its code for to be honest about this but I'll tell you what it is

2:28:55 It's code for you being a communist socialist. It's words that don't mean anything, but it's the signal... not virtual signal, it's like hey I'm gonna use these terms because now you can identify me we're fellow travelers. We're couple of reds. Is there some secret handshake or decoder ring? No they recognize each other pretty easily Couple of reds. Couple of reds! I have a 2020 clip

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Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Ukraine and China Conflicts

ABC News reported on the potential conflicts of interest involving Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, and his business dealings in Ukraine and China. Hunter Biden's role on the board of Burisma and his investment fund in China were highlighted as troubling intersections with his father's diplomacy. In response, the Biden campaign announced a new ethics policy to monitor for such conflicts if he is elected president.

joe biden· hunter biden· burisma· ukraine· china· ethics policy

2:29:32 Okay I was waiting for it to happen Who's a beast is ABC have they picked someone that they like yet if they decided? So, I think all the networks right now are all in for Biden and they're doing what they can To test you throw stuff at him to see if he can but it bounces off or not. Well, well They worried but there in for biting times the guy Tom Yamas through this because the kitchen sink at Biden Oh I mean literally everything that we've been talking about that's troublesome when it comes to Joe Biden is Sleepy Joe. Isn't that the name, be Sleepy Joe? Sleepy Joe is a sleepy guy. I like Sleepy Joe

2:30:10 Sleepy Joe, here's his problem. We have two problems one is China we know China really the problem is this kid that's the problem you got a problematic kid in 2014 Ukrainians sick of corruption revolted Vice President Joe Biden went to Kiev to help the new government You have to fight cancer of corruption. But then something strange happens just three weeks later a Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma accused of corruption appoints Hunter Biden seen here in their promotional videos to their board of directors paying his firm more than $1 million dollars a year

2:30:51 Hunter, a lawyer who had just been discharged from the Navy Reserves for testing positive for cocaine. Mr. Hunter Biden... He had served on other boards but had no known experience in Ukraine or natural gas We went to Kiev and found even among Joe Biden supporters in Ukraine Hunter's hiring was troubling I think that Hunter Biden did a very bad thing And he was very wrong his name to be abused. And Ukraine wasn't the only country where Hunter Biden's business and his father's diplomacy as vice president intersected, it also happened in China this video shows Chinese diplomats greeting Vice President Biden as he arrived in Beijing in December of 2013 right by his side his son hunter

2:31:40 Less than two weeks later, Hunter's firm had new business. Creating an investment fund in China involving the government-controlled Bank of China with reports they hope to raise 1.5 billion dollars. Hunter still plays a role in the fund his lawyer says his stake is worth about half a million dollars Both Hunter and his lawyers say he never discussed any of his overseas work with his father. Biden's campaign team told us that the vice president acted at all times in a manner consistent with well-established executive branch ethics standards. Now, in response to our questions, the Biden campaign for the first time is announcing if he's elected, he will invoke a new ethics policy on his first day in office that would empower White House lawyers to monitor for any types of conflicts of interest

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Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams, VP Selection Calculus

The hosts debate the likely vice-presidential pick for Joe Biden, with Adam Curry betting on Stacey Abrams while John C. Dvorak considers Kamala Harris. They discuss the political necessity of picking a candidate who can secure the black vote, though they note that Harris's background may be problematic for the ADOS movement. The segment analyzes the historical pattern of rivals becoming running mates in U.S. presidential elections.

kamala harris· stacey abrams· joe biden· vice president· black vote

2:32:26 I'd say that was a pretty big trial balloon if they're just testing stuff out. That was a good one! They're nailing it, it's not gonna have any effect Biden is the guy Well you said Biden Kamala Harris? I gotta tell you yes and this is huge mistake. I know where you going yeah and I will say this she's attacking Biden left and right again part of the process And she will be picked because this is not an uncommon. This happened with George HW Bush when he was running against Reagan

2:33:02 They were voodoo economics and the guy's a maniac, and he's only a Hollywood guy. Blah blah blah. Boom! Vice President. This happened with Lyndon Johnson and Jack Kennedy. This happens with a lot of these guys they hate you know they're running against each other to get the presidency And then they relent and they become the vice president But it showed that show a lot of gumption well I'm going back and i'm going to say again That his choice will be Stacey Abrams That's the choice. That is the only logical choice for the Democrat Party It is definitely not Kamala Harris unless they get with Kamala Harris I think Stacey Abrams is too plump problematic and by the way If if she if he picks Kamala Harris, Stacy Abrams will say that she got picked Yeah, she declined she has better things to do at the Council on foreign relations

2:34:03 Yeah, and whatever else she's involved in which is sketchy. I'm just saying if i was advising the Democrat party, I would say Kamala Harris bad idea Why? Well because the black vote will shun her That's possible But Kamala Harris is very good politically and she's been, she's wormed her way up to the ranks as a US senator. I'd from sure nothing going on. That's before them that's before the dud of the Mueller report And there we go with you will see...I don't think Stacey Abrams is even in play but you're totally convinced that she is Yes I do well you still have thoughts on Hillary Clinton?

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Pete Buttigieg, South Bend Shooting, Black Lives Matter

Mayor Pete Buttigieg faced criticism from black voters in South Bend, Indiana, following a police shooting of a black man. During a tense confrontation with Black Lives Matter activists, Buttigieg reportedly told the crowd he was not asking for their vote, to which they responded that he wouldn't be getting it. The hosts suggest this incident highlights Buttigieg's struggle to gain traction with minority voters.

pete buttigieg· south bend· black lives matter· police shooting· 2020 election

2:34:52 Are they dirty thoughts or just thoughts? Sorry. Is there anyone else we need to... I mean, I don't have any more clips from anyone I don't think. Buttigieg's...I tried to get a clip of Buttigieg. He went to some black voters in some small town and Was it maybe? No, it was South Bend actually. South Bend Indiana I think a cop had been like... It was Black Lives Matter people Yeah they shot some poor guy. The cops did And then he's standing there and he's like well you know whatever He was just very quiet and then at certain point he says Well I'm not asking for your vote

2:35:38 And the people went, you ain't getting it either! It was inaudible. I really wanted to clip it but we just could not hear what was going on but he's failing. He's a mayor small-town mayor from a hamlet. So let's go to an interesting...I got this pulled down from Democracy Now with See if you can find, I'm not gonna do this to embarrass you because I don't think a lot of people would pick this up. But if you're a news presenter telling the story, I think you might want it is either fact checker or you got editors or somebody would pick it up but nobody picked it up so let's play there's a big oil refinery going up and smoke down in Philadelphia.

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Philadelphia Refinery Fire, Hydrofluoric Acid, Historical Context

A massive fire at a 150-year-old oil refinery in Philadelphia prompted shelter-in-place orders for nearby residents. The hosts criticize Democracy Now! for reporting that the facility "produces" crude oil rather than processing it. They also highlight the extreme danger of the hydrofluoric acid used at the site, noting that a leak of the chemical could cause catastrophic health issues for the local population.

philadelphia· refinery fire· hydrofluoric acid· democracy now· point breeze

2:36:28 Yeah, oil refinery report from Democracy Now! ...in Philadelphia battled a massive fire overnight after a large explosion at 150-year old refinery in South Philadelphia. This marked the second time this month emergency responders were called to the Philadelphia Energy Solutions Refining Complex which produces 335 thousand barrels of crude oil every day It's said to be the largest such complex on the US Eastern Seaboard No injuries were reported, but nearby neighborhoods were ordered to shelter in place. Well okay you're right and if you're not trying to embarrass me the only thing I could if just hearing that the only thing I would go and look up is the 150 year old claim

2:37:16 Well, that is worth looking up because I find that hard to believe. Because we know oil refineries may have been a facility there you know because Pennsylvania was one of the earliest producers of oil But it's when she says the, it produces what 330 thousand barrels of crude. Oh! It doesn't produce it processes? Exactly. Ah yeah... Well this is democracy now. It doesn't produce it processes Now uh the other thing they did and she left out the best part of the story To me, if she wanted to be a scarrow or this terrible. You would start to talk about the hydrofluoric alkylation plant. This is one of the few refineries now and that there's maybe a dozen in the country that use this process

2:38:02 It's a process to make iso-octane and some other chemicals that are really important to gasoline, and especially in cold weather climates. But the processes can be used with either sulfuric acid as a base or hydrofluoric acid which is the most deadly thing on earth! And it's right in the middle... I was just reading about this and holy crap they're using HF? Which is the worst stuff! One drop of hydrofluoric acid one drop You say you have a drop of hydrofluorogas and you drop it on your hand? It immediately leaches down through the skin and attacks the bones and dissolves them. Sweet!

2:38:41 This is a plague of a product that shouldn't be used. The sulfuric acid version of these facilities work just as well, it costs a little more, it's the cheaper way to go with the hydrofluoric acid but in the middle of town and if this thing's burning and the hydrofluoric gas leaks out or explodes you're gonna have a huge health problem in that area, huge! And she doesn't even mention it. Well being a guy who was kind from Jersey, eh who cares? It's Philly In 1866, one year after the end of the Civil War Atlantic Petroleum Company established its operations at Point Breeze along the Skowkill River below Pasunuk Avenue. Four warehouses were built and those could store 50 thousand barrels of refined oil product mostly kerosene used as lamp oil to light the homes and businesses in the growing city yeah

2:39:36 So that's where the 150 years comes from. Yeah, it was a warehouse Well to be fair it says the PES Philadelphia refining complex has been part of the neighborhood for over 150 years and is closely tied to the growth of the American oil industry That's their own headline from their website I would say that if you're in the middle of Philadelphia and you have a hydrofluoric acid process in the middle of such a populous area, I would... that's what i'd be bitching about if I was a local. I mean seriously! I'd get out of town and take a vacation while this thing is burning. Come back your house is like dissolved Have you noticed that ever since pharmaceutical companies got this mandatory vaccination stuff in place in New York now by law

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Measles Coverage, Mandatory Vaccinations, Media Silence

The hosts observe that news coverage of measles outbreaks has largely disappeared following the implementation of mandatory vaccination laws in New York. They suggest this sudden silence is a convenient coincidence for pharmaceutical companies and the government. The segment implies that the media's focus on the issue was a temporary tool to drive legislative changes.

measles· vaccinations· new york· media coverage· pharmaceutical

2:40:34 Yeah. That the measles stories have just kind of evaporated? It's just something we want to pay attention to, it's one of those crazy things that happens everything got solved! What a coincidence Once we had the law in place is great We all live and it's all a happy day Crazy that way. I failed to note that. Coincidence? I think not! And then for our friends in Gitmo Nation East, from Reuters... Headline! London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises Knife crime That's right 15 murders in London and February against 14 in New York

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London Murder Rate, Knife Crime, Sadiq Khan

Reuters reports that the murder rate in London briefly overtook that of New York City due to a rise in knife crime. Mayor Sadiq Khan expressed deep concern over the violence, which included both stabbings and rare shooting incidents. The hosts mock the "un-British" nature of the crimes and the city's struggle to maintain safety despite strict weapon regulations.

london· murder rate· knife crime· sadiq khan· new york city

2:41:19 For March, 22 murders in London. 21 in New York. They're just leading by a bit though not much we can still catch up New York! In the latest bloodshed the 17 year old girl died on Monday after she was found with gunshot wounds and Tottenham North London oh that's not a knife crime how un-British of you but the mayor is deeply concerned by violent crime in the capital thank You Sadiq Khan so sad man look people have guns shoot these knivers yeah So we have a couple of interesting things going on in Oregon. The Republicans are staying out of their legislature so you can't have a quorum because they wanted to pass a bunch of climate change stuff and so the Republicans aren't in on it, they're saying nuts when they left and nothing's been done about it

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Oregon Senate Quorum, Climate Legislation, Republican Walkout

Eleven Republican state senators in Oregon left the state to prevent a quorum and block the passage of dramatic climate change legislation. The Republicans are demanding a public referendum on the measure rather than a legislative vote. This tactic has effectively stalled the Democratic majority's agenda regarding greenhouse gas emissions.

oregon· state senate· quorum· climate legislation· republican walkout

2:42:16 I have a little clip, 21 seconds. Back in this country 11 Republican state senators in Oregon stayed off the job for a second day to block climate legislation. Majority Democrats are pushing a measure to make dramatic cuts in greenhouse gas emissions Republicans want a public referendum instead and they refuse to show up to deprive the State Senate of a quorum Good move. All right, one more we got to go it's done let's go public access in New York City there's a big is a big to do going on about public access for cable? Yeah cable access Do we need to explain what public access is to anybody people should know but they don't I guess they don't no you should yeah all the cable systems have got did a deal to get cable that you know to get cable in certain neighborhoods that they have to provide free access In the 80s this started right

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Supreme Court, Public Access Cable, First Amendment Ruling

In a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that Manhattan Neighborhood Network (MNN), a private non-profit, is not a state actor and can exercise editorial control over its content. Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote the majority opinion, while Justice Sonia Sotomayor dissented, arguing that the public access channel should be treated as a public forum. The case arose after producers were suspended for airing content that allegedly harassed the station's staff.

supreme court· brett kavanaugh· sonia sotomayor· mnn· first amendment

2:43:10 I'm sorry in the 80s it started in the 80s all this stuff. I think so yeah, uh but whenever It started it was a cable company says we're gonna put a couple channels on and you guys can get We'll put a studio up then you guys come in and do shows And there's very few people have done any shows where the crap is up to New York where they had some great show ugly George Channel J The Robin Bird Show come on baby bird let me bang your box Yeah Yeah, she's naked and a naked there was much of naked shows lot of naked shows. It was great crazy ads the extra rate stuff I love is for something anyway so Let's hear what is going on. In a 5-4 decision, Supreme Court justices ruled Monday along partisan lines that New York City's public access station MNN is not bound by the First Amendment which would protect producers from editorial control or censorship by the network Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote the opinion for the conservative majority The case against the non profit cable channel Manhattan Neighborhood Network known as MNN was brought by independent producer Dede Halleck who said she and her co-producer were suspended

2:44:13 after submitting a video accusing the station of neglecting the East Harlem area, where one of its production facilities is located. MNN alleged she was suspended because her video contained footage in which her co-producer made statements intended to incite violence and harass staff in violation of MNN program content restrictions." In her dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote, quote, "'New York City' opened up a public forum on public access channels in which it has a property interest. It asked MNN to run that public forum, and MNN accepted the job. That makes MNN subject to the First Amendment just as if the city had decided to run the public forum itself," Sotomayor said. Wait a minute—I lost the plot on that one.

2:44:55 Yeah, these two producers that did a show they were blasting their own station and then you know and then telling people to tear down the play. There was just a couple of bad actors that the station decided hey we don't want you on here anymore so they did it first amendment lawsuit and Sotomayor who's one of the biggest idiots on the Supreme Court She, yeah, she's got free as a First Amendment. You know she wouldn't do the same thing for a university where they ban some speaker. Ah okay got you. But she'll do it for this stupid station and it became a Supreme Court case my god! To be fair she's only like five feet tall so I don't know if she's the biggest idiot just being literal there

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Show Outro, Space Force, Final Media Deconstruction

The hosts sign off with a final montage of media clips covering the Space Force, the Iran drone incident, and warmongering rhetoric from figures like Lindsey Graham and Brett Stevens. They reiterate their commitment to media deconstruction and thank the producers for their continued support. The episode concludes with a reminder of the "value-for-value" model and a preview of the next show.

space force· straits of hormuz· lindsey graham· brett stevens· end of show

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2:47:25 Is something really out there? Three more US senators received a classified briefing about UFOs. But our destiny beyond the Earth is not only a matter of national identity, but a matter of national security space force. We must have American dominance in space force. They should be very, very worried. Iran made a big mistake. This drone was in international waters clearly, we have it all documented. It's documented scientifically not just words We will know if the Mullahs are smart enough to take the opportunity which is a small window It may not even exist within five minutes When Abe was asked by the president and prime minister of Japan To deliver a message to the Iranians last talk

2:48:23 Not only was he buff, they attacked a Japanese ship while the Japanese Prime Minister is delivering a message from the American President. Let's see if we can negotiate. We're going to have a space horse! I'm not touching you! Mommy Ryan hit me!!! A U.S surveillance drone flying above the Straits of Hormuz over international waters shot out of the sky by an Iranian missile, this act of aggression is not going to stand The same people who lured us into Iraq 16 years ago are demanding a new war This one with Iran Today Iran's Revolutionary Guard is revealing debris from that drone and claims it warned Americans multiple times before shooting down

2:49:10 unmanned craft. I find it hard to believe it was intentional if you want to know the truth, but I think that could have been somebody who is loose and stupid that did it. Senator Lindsey Graham for example says Americans oughta be ready to fight and die for shipping lanes on the other side of the world. At The New York Times left-wing warmonger Brett Stevens has also called on America sink the Iranian Navy many on the Left are for it But you may not have known back in 2007 Congress directed the Pentagon set up A $22 million dollar search for the truth. And gleaming blue spaceships. And I ran, I ran so far away. I just... The best podcast in the universe! MoFo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A It's mathematical.