Topic: Chaos Computer Club

The hosts turn their focus to Jacob Applebaum and his recent keynote at the Chaos Computer Club in Germany. They express skepticism regarding Applebaum's status as a "hero," noting his residence in Berlin and his ties to various government-funded organizations. The discussion questions the authenticity of his claims and his role in the broader Snowden/Greenwald narrative.

The upcoming Computer Chaos Club meeting in Germany is noted as a gathering spot for figures like Jacob Appelbaum and Laura Poitras. The discussion moves to the legal constraints on former intelligence officials like Dennis Blair, who are bound by lifelong non-disclosure agreements. The hosts explain that these officials must legally pretend leaked documents do not exist, even when they are in the public domain.

Prostitution has been legal in Germany since 2002, with the industry now expanding into "wellness brothels" that provide services for seniors in retirement homes. Meanwhile, the Chaos Computer Club has reportedly hacked the new German national ID card. The segment also touches on the "United States of Europe" and the technical failures of new biometric ID systems.

The hosts correct previous statements about German voting, noting that the country banned voting machines following hacks by the Chaos Computer Club. They also revisit a debate regarding Janeane Garofalo's comments on Dubai, clarifying that while Dubai has a repressed public culture, it maintains a significant illegal underground scene.