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00:00 Ah, you do what you gotta do. Mentoring mouth hitters from sea to shining sea. From FEMA Region 6, the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin Tejas In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley without further ado i'm John C Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Yeah, that's right John. It is a brand new year, a brand new month! Happy New Year to you and happy National Mentoring Month 2014! Happy New Year to everyone out there listening to the stream, the show on the podcast, the downloads and everything thereafter And it is National Mentoring Month

00:52 It's National Internet Month? No, National Mentoring Month. Oh mentoring! Yes. Sorry this printer makes so much noise. Hold on a second... Tell us about National Mentoring month while I see why it's printing so many pages. Alright well this is by presidential proclamation and as you know America is at its best when we lift each other up when we peruse over individual goals while never forgetting that we are bound as one nation and as one people If we carry this spirit forward, if we take responsibility for our future leaders and give them the tools to succeed America's best days will always lie ahead. Now therefore I Barack Obama President of the United States of America by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution the laws united states do hereby

01:37 proclaim January 2014 as National Mentoring Month and I call upon public officials, business and community leaders educators podcasters and Americans across the country to observe this month with appropriate ceremonies activities and programs. It actually says podcasters? Of course it doesn't but what's the difference Well I'm just saying, I thought it could. Public officials business and community aren't we business and community leaders? Educators? I don't know about the leader's part We're certainly Americans across the country Yes Okay But it's not just national men and I think we do, we do mentor so i'm happy about that. That's good is also... It has been a number of people yeah and we have so many successful spin-offs of our podcast. Yeah! And it was also National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month 2014 yet again every year every month everyday human trafficking prevention. Only once a month only once a year for one month in one month okay?

02:42 And once again, the NOA Agenda show is right in the sweet spot. We totally try to prevent people from being slaves! Exactly more than anyone we work very hard on this because modern-day slavery is a global tragedy come actually combating it would that be with two Ts or one T? Combatting it I don't think it's one okay cuz it looks weird and makes you want to say combating it but yeah okay combating it requires international action The United States is shining a spotlight on the dark corners where it persists, such as the United States. Right there in your own community and your own home placing sanctions on some of the worst abusers like the US government giving countries incentives to meet their responsibilities and partnering with groups that help trafficking victims escape from their abuser's grip

03:35 We are working with other nations as they step up their own efforts, and we are seeing more countries pass anti-human trafficking laws and improve enforcement. Please pay no attention to the 3 million people incarcerated working for almost free in our prison system." Which is a form of human trafficking if you want to take it too... And slavery yes! AND it's National Stalking Awareness Month! That's right every January we draw attention to a crime that will affect one in six American women at some point in their lives Although young women are disproportionately at risk, anyone can be a victim of stalking. Regardless of age sex background and gender identity." Yeah that's fact yeah And I guess while we're at it uh i'll say hi to the hunger strikers outside of city hall here in Austin Texas What's going on in Austin that they're striking? There is a hunger strike. I posted about it on the blog blog.curry.com

04:36 Day three, I believe now for these gentlemen. They are going... they're on hunger strike until Austin stops fluoridating its water." Alright! I didn't know they fluoridated their water. Isn't that nuts? That you have this lovey-dovey rainbow and unicorn town and everything is all healthy and perfect and green yet they toss all this fluoride in our water?! And I've always found that to be peculiar Yeah, well there's a lot of peculiar stuff going on. I want to if we could talk about the new year... We have of course every town has one but they make it a big deal so there is only one. The first baby born

05:17 which I think was born at least in our area two seconds after midnight by a woman that you've actually you watch some mainstream news or television. I did, I completely had not only did i not see it I hadn't heard I didn't even think about it yeah well this one I think was an MKUltra mom oh because she had a message wait a minute hold on a second where's John C Dvorak who are you? You're an imposter! Did you just Did you just say an MKUltra Mom? It sounded weird and she had a message to tell us about what the year is going to be like. I reprised it at the end so we understand that's what 2014 is all about. Tuesday on the 31st, so we always knew could be December or January birthday and didn't know which year, which who was gonna be either. So lots of surprises!

06:05 So lots of surprises, so lots of surprises. It's funny because I have some audio from the first baby born dad! This is really... that's creepy how we do those clips Here's the dad Someone's getting cornhole today Sounds like a recipe for success to me Actually it was the sister of mom Your favorite clip, might as well show up to your right Yeah might as well It's interesting actually The chat room is all excited As we stream this program live twice a week, Thursdays and Sundays 9am Gitmo Nation West Time the chat rooms are all like you know hey John ended the year liking the chat room. You know they're all excited that you know that they're back in your good graces again because they've been it we benefited from their input on the last show yeah and then you got really nice on them

06:53 I said they did a great job. They dug up the thing in solid time, and the whole thing worked out fine. It happens! Until they turn on us again... Which will be probably during this show. Well it was interesting... well let me ask you first. I just might as well say Happy New Year John What did you do for the New Year's? Did you ring it in with family and alcoholic beverages. We rang it up in Port Angeles with family and some champagne Very nice, we did the same. We had champagne and Miss Mickey made blinis And we were in bed at 1130

07:39 Yeah. Well, Buzzkill Jr has the flu so he slept right through the New Year's. No we decided we were going to go to bed early and we were actually asleep by 11 30. We got up early on the 1st of January started the new year off with a nice nature hike. We went to Hamilton pools and that was really refreshing too not start off with a hangover or you know anything just boom good to go! You were asleep at midnight? Yes sir Yes, sir. Yeah. Like a guy tied in the military? Yes sir! And my bed was made! Is there anybody here that's in charge? Yes Sir! There is this sir yes sir. I love it you know when someone asks me something like in the store on the street for some and its automatic and I know it comes from my upbringing but I say

08:29 Yes ma'am. You can see particularly when women younger than I... Yeah, they give you the stink eye? And they look at me like what do i look like I'm 70? It just pops out! I can't help it is just what happens so I'm sorry Buzzkill Jr., you're so sick this is the flu man this is now of course I had the flu And a couple days maybe I just had to lay down, but they're really pouring it on big time now. And instead of just saying hey why don't you get the flu like...I had the swine flu in 2009 and it didn't kill me and now that I probably caught the swine flu again

09:13 As Texas is orange on the map of flu. Yeah, you know you guys are a target Do you know that every year between 50 and 200 Rhode Islanders die because of the flu alone? And this year it's the h1n1 virus that nasty swine flu Nasty Swine Flu hold on we get to play the jingle John never ends. It's that nasty swine flu, it's not just that old...it's the nasty swine flu! From back in 09? That is wreaking havoc and making everyone sick across the country. Everybody sick! John are you sick?! Are you sick yet!? You gotta be sick! With nearby Massachusetts and New York already considered widespread flu outbreak numbers, some Rhode Island health officials say we're next. Flu outbreak numbers make sure you check what outbreak stands for The one thing we know is that flu is in fact on its way here it's coming from the south It's taking the A train The west and the north Rhode Island department... Oh, oh, surrounded by flu What about the east? That's water

10:11 It's just water. This is Rhode Island, baby Surrounded by flu of health director dr Michael fine says flu cases in nearby Massachusetts are now considered widespread and Physician visits for a flu-like symptoms here in Rhode Island our way up fluid like Symptoms always got to be careful of that one and dr. Fine says that means what there was They're way up. Yeah, they are! It's time to stop procrastinating and get a flu shot. Get that shot! Especially if you're a young adult. Ahhhh... See? Buzzkill Jr wasn't listening- Can I ask you a question? No, Nick can't ask me a question until i'm done with this report In a typical year we worry about the elderly and infants This year around the country We're seeing hospitalizations And even deaths in young adults Where is this coming from?!

10:57 What data are there? So we have pandemic, and they said outbreak not pandemic yet but outbreak numbers are up. There's no source of numbers but now young people not infants and elderly know young people where is this coming from? Can I ask a question about this something's baffling me yeah sure You remember we did extensive coverage of the swine flu fiasco. For about a year probably yeah because of the woman from World Health, there's a pandemic... Well hold on they changed now let's do it properly they changed the qualifications of what is a pandemic. There were people inside the World Health Organization and this has been reported by mainstream media as well although summarily who had vested interest

11:43 in propagating the you must get vaccinated against the swine flu. They had actual financial interest so yeah that yes well the question is if you remember because I do during that little era, there were two things that stood out. One is that the H1N1 flu vaccine had to be separate from the other mixture of ad libbed flu vaccines that they went to China and said well it's going to be this, this and this doesn't make a difference the serum. Right, it was a specific vaccination not for any old flu but it had to be for this very specific strain of H1N1 and the second thing that was noteworthy is that it wasn't one shot

12:30 No, it was multiple. Two wasn't it? Yeah at least two shots you had to go back because this... It was so nasty and dangerous that the thing had to be divided into two shots So how do they know- so answer me this This is a question like an Ask Adam but not really I don't want to hear the jingle If that was true then, what changed? Because now they have incorporated the H1N1 in the regular flu shot which they said they couldn't do and used to say you needed two shots. Now how did it become one shot within a mixture of all the other flus? John this is a baffling question! Do you have a clip to answer it? Well no I can just end up with what I had...I don't know if I have any answers other than bull crap but you know what

13:15 You have two weeks, slave. So regardless of who you are it's a good year to be immunized 2014...a good year to be immunized I think that is going to the theme of the show It's a good year A good year to be immunized For those of you who are dead set against being immunized Oh hold on a second That would be us! Yeah yeah that's us Dr. Fine would like to paint a picture Of what the flu is really like Okay, you ready? Oh no, no I'm not. It's because he is going to paint a picture for you! You denier you? For most of us it is the fever of 100-203 being knocked flat on your back... um..you know....it makes you ache so much that your hair hurts and for many people its being out of work for 1 or 2 weeks at least That's the meme, that's the meme! You don't want to be out of work for one to two weeks do you? Slave?!

14:13 That's the meme. So they're going to, you watch it's going to be... You have two weeks... Well how would you know? Well you were hit by this flu and you were working Yes The show and you sounded fine by the way Did you have any of these symptoms maybe had a different flu I always have hair pain Well, from your hair. Yeah so hair of course my entire... My lungs hurt in the back? It's too late now because you obviously don't have the right genes but don't you think it'd be funny with you and that hair on MTV for those old-timers that listen to this show here if you actually went bald

14:50 You know that sounds so fucking hilarious John. No I'm just saying wouldn't you think it would be because you'd probably still keep the long hair? There are guys like this, they got to stay keep the long hair and then they end up with this bald and a ponytail Yeah there's a lot of guys like that for sure! There are! And yeah you know what? You need- you and I need to be very quiet Because the Hair Gods have been good to us Don't piss them off. It can still happen you're on your borderline by the way yeah, I know Even when I was a kid okay? So it's standard operating procedure for you well You're lucky you have a good head of hair for your age

15:28 Thanks, thank you son. I don't mean it like that but most of the guys i know who are younger than me... This is stupid to talk about this on the show but you do have for people out there haven't seen him Adam he's still got the hair and could probably still be faunted out if he wanted too easily yes I could and grows very fast my hair And it's because I'm happy. In general." It's... Ohhhh! I wanted to mention that I am still running on Windows 8.1 Pro Preview on this machine- It's really funny, the minute you said that the sound got really crappy. I'm not kidding you. You went, ''I wanted to mention I'm still running on Windows'' Uhh.. The Wi- I'm not kidding, that's what happened but its okay your good now What? You really went away

16:24 What I'm what? I lost you. I completely lost you say something that's funny because i lost you a second ago, I think your connection is getting flaky Anyway, I got a message when the machine booted telling me to buy the damn thing. Oh! Because this is a preview thing? Yeah and it says it will be disabled and they said you've got some time to buy it It's gonna work... This is going to work now. I'm warning you now. I was gonna move it out of the machine but I figured like I wanted do this live on the air as an experiment What have a break live on the air what a great idea! It said it will reboot in two hours No

17:01 Why? I don't know why, that's what i'm thinking. Well this is no good. Well that means right now it's 925 we started about nine so at 11 o'clock my machine is going to reboot or not yeah I don't believe it will okay I believe him well I would not having done this but I was familiar enough with Microsoft I believe i'm going to get a message. But why do they want to reboot? Just to spite you or is that like, so that's something you buy it? Preview and they don't want you to think you're gonna get away with it You know again the operating system for free chump Is what the message is Hmm interesting well What is it worth to you? What are they charging for that Windows 8 OS? I think for people that were preview users I think its 40 bucks which is reasonable And for regular slavelets

17:58 $500. No, no you're kidding right? That can't be true. It's a couple hundred bucks is really Wow what's the value man that doesn't sound like a good value Not if it reboots every two hours. Did you see what Mayor Bloomberg did on his way out just before the... a lot of people Yeah, he gave the finger and walked out of the office It was horrible. He did something else. He signed one little bill into law What do a lot of people do on New Year's? Wouldn't they have to have New Year's resolutions Yeah, and some of it will be... What do you think the number one New Year's resolution is? Lose weight. Yeah that was probably true and then I think smoking and drinking is probably not far behind yeah so he did he made sure that those who wanted to quit smoking with some assistance can just forget about it no matter how you feel about Mayor Michael Bloomberg there's no denying his impact on the day-to-day life of New Yorkers over the past 12 years taking on everything from birth control two big gulps

18:57 So it seems almost fitting that in his final act as mayor, Bloomberg signed into law a controversial initiative that extends the city's smoking ban to include e-cigarettes. And vaping! The law would make it illegal to use the battery operated cigs and offices restaurants bars and parks but some critics including anti smoking advocates say the ban may end up doing more harm than good Yeah there was a lot of people wanted to you know transition through an e-cig I wonder what this is like a trend because we have a similar situation happening here at Cal. There's, I've got the clip and they are also banning e6 but a lot more

19:33 For students, faculty and employees of the University of California who smoke this year could bring a new set of challenges as the entire system goes smoke-free. Starting today smoking and use all tobacco products including cigarettes e-cigarettes cigars snuff water pipes pipes hookahs and chewing tobacco are prohibited on all campuses and facilities both indoors and outdoors officials with the UC System say it is offering an extensive selection Stop smoking resources to anyone who's interested. Wow, smoking tobacco... well smokeless I have to say when i was in oh we see that over here sometimes you know the chewing tobacco yeah I don't even want to be around you as a human being

20:19 With your with your Pepsi can that you're spitting dribble into Whoever imagine what it must have been like in bars in the old west where they had the spit tunes Yeah, and because if you know the guys weren't hitting those things not You know nine out of ten times so science somebody had to clean that mess up But just the whole process of putting that in your mouth is very un I don't understand it. I've tried this news those little pouches of tobacco. I mean not in the past, you know two years but when we were in Los Angeles and maybe...I think we tried to quit once for about a month not so successful and I think it was mainly because we were using the e-cigarettes at the time and uh I tried a couple of those snooze things. I don't know what you're talking about? It's snooze is uh it's I think it's made by it's a Camel product or it's made by Camel. The Marlboro might make them too or Philip Morris

21:13 And it's a little pouch of tobacco, but it's like a little mini pillow and you can stick in your gum like you were chewing tobacco. But you don't have to spit out all this goop all the time and worse actually, you swallow whatever nicotine stuff is in there. It's probably ten times more addictive than smoking. Actually... But it gives you really good satisfied feeling I have my chewing tobacco story So I'm working at the refinery in Union Oil in Rodeo and I'm floating around, I don't know why. With one of the guys who works on the tank farm

21:54 And we got into some conversation about how nobody at the refinery smokes for obvious reasons. Yeah, they blowed up! But there's a lot of addicts and they all use chewing tobacco so half the workers especially during this era when everyone was smoking they were all chewing tobacco So he says you ever try chewing tobacco I says no and so he showed me You know it gave me a pinch and told me how to do it chew it and all the rest And meanwhile we were looking at some tanks. I'm climbing this tank to get to the top to look down The time my god up there, I was so wasted from this stuff. I was dizzy It's very good like him I comes crawling back to the ground and

22:41 God, no. No I didn't get sick but it was just like wow this stuff is ridiculously strong and the guy says to me he says most of the people that switched from smoking to chewing tobacco they were worse off much more nicotine you get more addicted Terrible, he said as he put another chunk of this. It's so crazy we had my daughter and her girlfriend here and Christina is pretty much she doesn't have the I have an addictive personality So if I smoke a cigarette there'll be a second one to be a pack and they'll be back on I just know this And our girlfriend smokes it but like a smoker now really like you know after a meal or getting in the morning with coffee? And of course would not having me I can't smoke in the house

23:32 Not that we, when we were smokers we did of course. And so she's smoking out in the back but just having someone who smokes around you I'm, I can't believe that i didn't realize how foul this really is. It's totally bad and you don't know it when you have to have a cigarette before breakfast and one with...I mean the classic smoker to me as someone who smokes at the table during breakfast during breakfast and then puts the cigarette out in one of the egg yolks. I've never done that but I've come pretty close You know I really enjoyed my smoking again. I used to roll my own, I'd choose the tobacco you know it was all very...it was a whole ritual out of his smoking yeah and I wish I could just you know once in awhile

24:16 have a nice smoke, but I can't. I just can't because i know what'll happen you know and then you can't do it there's a stressful situation boom! It'd be done to be over in this and I just have to remind myself it took me a year-and-a-half we've been more than a year half now of not smoking to realize how bad someone really smells. No they stink did I stink like that too? Yeah Really But you had also the aroma of pot which was kind of attractive He's kind of an attractive guy. I don't know why this thing was the patchouli oil And a peace sign around my neck Perfect well I'm glad we're done with that. I feel very very good very strong man I just got to reiterate how my life has changed with that spin class which I still do twice a week Oh, my god. I feel just so good

25:12 That's good. Speaking of pot, it sounds like... Remember... Damn I'm really trying to work on that in 2014 Do you remember when we were looking for the answer to the question everyone was asking what the hell is wrong with Colorado? Because yeah, what is up with the schools and Colorado the kids are killing each other What's wrong?! I don't know if we actually use that voice but a lot of my friends Certainly in the Cali in the northern, California up near you Literally said what is wrong? What could be we don't understand. Well the answer came Colorado schools have a pot problem that oh Yes this is how we're gonna roll baby where do people get it I don't know exactly but

26:05 Just like I know that kids smoke it a lot. Now that its legal everybody's just getting it While still illegal for anyone under the age of 21, younger people are finding ways to get their hands on marijuana and we found they don't shy away from talking about it selling it and I think it's easy for people to get now. Even for somebody who is underage? Yeah, or really pissed off at their teacher! It was so hard to get it before they legalized it. It was almost impossible. Couldn't get it man! But this report which went on for five minutes only clipped 45 seconds...it just goes on and on. I know lots of people most of my friends use it

26:48 Why do they? In fact, I'm high right now. Want to use it. Why did they want to use it because you know makes you feel good Um, I feel like that It's not typically classified as like a harmful drug Like as meth or whatever Do you know of anybody who comes to school high or gets high during lunch break for example Oh yeah this is yeah Oh yeah, oh yeah. That's never happened before! I was getting high and going to school 30 years ago come on this is not new It's never happened before Adam it's because they legalized it and somethings got to be done You know this a part of school you're supposed to get be high and go to school

27:29 Once in a while have the schools like we have the slave training schools. Yeah, I'd be better once in awhile I mean that's a part of growing up it was not when I was a kid It was strictly a college situation. I bet you there was drinking when you were growing up, wasn't that the big thing? Let's drink! Absolutely. Drunk driving was the thing to do. Wooo! How'd that turn out for everybody? Seemed to be okay we got through it. Yeah its not uncommon at all There is bunch of people who come to this school high While some teens seem to think using marijuana is okay schools are trying to send a message that its not

28:06 Pot is now the number one reason students are kicked out of Colorado. I learned it from you, okay? Did that bring back any memories do you remember my children have never had any Do not do you know kids that were raised properly and all parents? Oh hold on a second You're telling me they none of your kids ever went to school high Please oh, please What go get high one at school? But they didn't go to school high especially it's pretty hard to do your home-schooled That's exactly why you gotta get high now. Well that there is a point there if your home but then maybe the homeschool was fun

28:51 Yeah, it wasn't like going to the... It's got more fun than the regular school where they just have a bunch of people haranguing you. Going to the slave institution yes no wonder but there was this commercial There are plenty kids that aren't stoned in Colorado schools too This is just an hysteric report designed for one thing to overturn the laws and is being propagated by the Justice Department because they're besides themselves what to do about this Yes! It's lovely, its great In fact, there's a... There was gonna be... In fact it has already started. It appears to me that there is going to be a lot of drug tourism people passing and going into Colorado because apparently even if you don't live there you can get like quarter ounce I think is the max. So I was listening to a radio report on this and yeah you can get a quarter ounce cause they talk about a lot of this stuff going in Colorado and Washington because Washington also legalized and there have been some stores opened up ready-to-go and

29:43 It's you know, it's just gonna be part of society. It's not gonna be...it's like in Portugal once you make things legal the thing calms down it doesn't go nuts they're making it sound like its going crazy! I uh..its the same with bicycles by the way I saw a report it was about couple expats living in Amsterdam did a mini documentary I'll have to see if I can find somewhere on YouTube about bicycles and when you see how the bicycle traffic in the Netherlands works. It really is astounding, it's like birds who are flying in a flock and all of a sudden they all go left and right and they never seem to bump into each other and you know jostle each other out of the sky. And they stood at a particular intersection where they counted I think they counted in one morning 100 000 bicycles

30:31 intersected, crossed including cars and trams and buses. And nothing happened you know and people they don't when they almost bump into each other there's no yelling and shouting it's like oh sorry you know so with a little sound but there's no fighting no one's honking and yelling and cursing and that took... They ring that little bell a lot yeah the bell which I miss here You know, people don't understand a bell and how to use it. And it took maybe 100 years for that culture of bicycling to be integrated and you can't just expect it to work in San Francisco or Austin now we have the city bikes which are cute but its dangerous! Yeah we got city bikes now in the city It's dangerous! Its dangerous! And by the way where are those helmets for those city bikes? Oh screw that! Screw you and your helmet! They dont need a helmet

31:27 Well these guys do. And by the way, why don't the police always looking for new revenue? Do something about these bicyclists who don't stop at stop signs! One second hold on no listen to me in The Netherlands how many people die from not having...do you see anyone in Holland riding with a bike helmet? No No! Maybe a wool cap. By the way, the pedestrians should wear their helmets you can get hit by those bikes. Even that doesn't really happen. Bike lanes everywhere. It's just culture it takes a long time it's not just rules no one did the bicyclists in The Netherlands completely red light is go faster they completely ignore that and it still works

32:11 It works. It's not a regulation thing, it's a cultural thing and it takes a long time... A long time! And it will work if people want to use that mode of transportation everything figures itself out but you can't do with rules doesn't work that way same with marijuana doesn't work that way something you can grow in your backyard? Nah, doesn't work that way Nope Well, they're gonna try to do everything they can to make it look like all hell's broken loose in Colorado with stories like that. That's for sure. Oh! All the kids... oh there's a we've got a picture of five-year old smoking a joint. You guys see that? You're gonna see a toddler

32:54 Oh, and the toddler go what happens when the toddler... The parents were smoking dope in the living room. And then they went to the kitchen to get some peanut butter and jelly. And the toddler came up and saw the joint it took a couple puffs and had to be rushed to the hospital." I can do these stories! Yes, I know you can. It's almost like wow we're gonna do another year of this? So easy to predict He's walking down Main Street everywhere. Well, most of our listeners I think can spot these things a mile away although they still miss a couple people out there are still skeptical about us and had what you know that like the for example this guy Jordan Maxwell who I've been trying to get to the beginning of the hoax about... Who is it? Who was Jordan Maxwell? Jordan Maxwell was a public speaker who has been for the last 50 years been promoting the idea that

33:50 that the whole country's a sham and we're part of some corporation that we don't know about, and the officers are in England, and Rothschilds are running everything. Yeah so now hold on one second I need to know exactly who this guy is. Hold on, let me just look at the media and let me do what we always do Because you've gotten me into this as well and yeah now You dragged me into this. Sorry Yeah, you dragged me into this and and the amount of grief I get now doing date searches But but I'm backing you up back and you up on this stuff And this is and this is what is making people very very angry

34:29 Because a lot of people have bought into it look line and sinker I had a guy who sent me a note saying I want the reference to this yeah Of the congressional record showing where this This is the the act of 1871 Yeah, 1871. You look at any of these bills by the way which I think you'll enjoy... Wait a minute this- wait we're gonna listen to a clip from this guy Jordan Maxwell who has a sparkly starry background on his webpage? At jordanmaxwell.com really?! I just want you to get an idea of the kind of illogic and craziness that people eventually lap up because you hear it enough, and people reiterate it. And this ran on InfoWars... Well hold on one second before you go anywhere let me read from his own website known by close friends as simply Rusty Jordan Maxwell born Russell J Pine apparently he needs a stage name

35:30 continues as a preeminent scholar and lecturer in the fields of secret societies, occult philosophies and ufology since 1959. His work is not only fascinating to explore but too important to ignore. Are you sure? What does your middle name stand for what does C stand for what is C? Cash Yeah, you are John. It sounds like I got someone else man... You want to play something from Info Wars? No it wasn't! It's been around but they've highlighted it because I'll tell you the background of this because he did Jordan Maxwell did this long lecture that was just an eye roller went on for three hours

36:17 And the title of it, if you look at it on YouTube says InfoWars refuses to play this clip. Well then he might be telling the truth actually so I'm interested. Well no now they're playing his short clip because apparently he's been retired for a while. He must have been...I don't know how old he is but He now he's just, now he's up. I swear to God in this clip, he's just essentially wearing his underwear. So you have to imagine a guy in his skivvies discussing this stuff is, you know? I have watched so much of this kind of stuff and LA, yeah. You know what I mean? And I like your, like you starting, I'm Jesus John, you start off with MK ultra and now this

37:02 You are a corporation. Your body is being bought and sold on the New York Stock Exchange every day, and you have no idea in the world how the world really works." Yeah yeah... And-and y'know what? Seven, eight years ago—six even six years ago I would watch this stuff and I'd be like, yeah man! Until I really started to learn how to read documents And there's just no evidence to back this up. I'd like to know where this stock is, i would like to short myself! Short myself and quit the show and make a fortune So people talk about having to go to court, they talk about that. I am short on Dvorak this week! How the government does this and the government did that... You don't really want me to listen to this do you? Oh please just humor me. This is un-listenable. ...cared of death because they gotta go to court which you should be scared of court. I'm not scared of court! Well why do people got to court?! Because you play basketball in a court. We play tennis on our court wake up

38:10 Wake up people! Hold on, let me try it. You gotta wake up people! You play basketball? You play tennis?! It's scary out of court!? I'm trying to do my Alex Jones, but i don't think i can do it. No not even close. The reason why you got a court is because its like tennis and how do you play tennis? You play with a rocket So, when you go into a basketball game to play on the court. The whole idea is you have two teams One team is a team of lawyers and another team of lawyers And the whole idea in a court because it's maritime approbate international banking law The whole idea is put them all back at the other guy's court so there's a couple things here I do have an opinion on a lot of this stuff

39:11 There's a difference between international law and common law, and of course we have commercial common code. Yeah there is a lot of law! lot of you know, it's all make-believe. It's just rules that we've kind of agreed on that have been written in some form and it's just all derivative of Some original Magna Carta in some ways And this is what people call law and a human rights law and internet freedom Law and all of this it's all it's all in people's minds as always they make up and This has nothing to do with

39:51 America being a corporation or not and it doesn't really even matter. It doesn't matter! You can bring a corporation to its knees as easily as you can in the country, you couldn't build up a corporation to be a great corporation... No I've made this argument before and there is that element What if it was true what difference does it make yeah? But it's not true, and it's ludicrous And this is beside the point and just causes nothing but confusion Amongst these people that buy into this that we're a corporation No I'm sorry. I don't understand your obsession with other people's obsession who gives a crap I don't understand I give up rap I care about what I know yet

40:38 I'm getting to the bottom of it. Maybe you care cuz that's what it is No, I know what it is this guy seems to be actually selling books he actually published for 1999 maybe that's what angers you then did it? He put a book He put a book together, he put up a webpage with some sparkly stars which you could easily do and he's selling his book. Why don't you get on this bandwagon? You could do Astral Cycles or whatever. Look at it! He has got a million books out. This guy is his own little publishing empire. That's your problem. Anyway, it could be it could be I could be just jealous. I think you are that was used to be a thing You give Bill Gates a bad time. Yeah, just jealous of bill gay Oh my god money did you hear about the email with Bill Gates? I bet you what they did that you won money no No So the see Robert Wilson on Monday

41:39 killed himself. Robert Wilson, a very very wealthy hedge fund guy he was 86 he had a horrible stroke and he wrote it no one has published it but he wrote a suicide note and he jumped out of his Upper West Side high-rise apartment and died and he had given away estimated five hundred million dollars of his you know eight hundred million or billion dollar wealth and his goal was to give away most of it before he died. He told a friend recently, I only have about 100 million to go." So after this happens an email exchange is released between him and Bill Gates

42:21 Are you googling this because I'm just gonna you don't have to all just tell you what it is Yeah, I'm guy. Just want to see a picture of the guy and some other stuff go on. I'm listening So at the first course I'm Googling if that's what we do both of us people Don't people think you're doing so they think John's not interested he's doing his tax returns or something there was that too? I can do text returns while I'm googling alright from Bill Gates to Robert W Wilson This is June 16th of 2010. I'm running to Robert, I'm writing to let you know about an idea we're calling the Giving Pledge that came out of a number of conversations that Melinda and Warren and I had with a number of people over the past year. By the way this is a recurring theme with Bill's emails... Melinda Warren & I like it like your in- Sounds like title of a book! It sounds like they're having sex which is sad and scary You know? We were all in bed smoking a joint the other day And we thought hey lets write an email to Robert W Wilson

43:15 The idea is that when you take the giving pledge, you agree to give the majority of your wealth to charity during your lifetime or through your will. The giving pledge will be public and pledges will be posted on the website GivingPledge.org and he goes on and on... And then he says I'm gonna skip through a lot of this email See, today an article about the Giving Pledge was posted online at fortune.com Warren and Melinda and I will be on Charlie Rose's show tonight to further discuss the idea Boy that Melinda hit the jackpot didn't she? Oh yeah! Nice Second in that is in the next few days we are asking some of the great philanthropists In the United States to join us signing a letter to hundreds of wealthy people in the United States inviting them to pledge

44:02 That's how he is basically pitching. And then Wilson responds, Mr Gates I decided more than 10 years ago to try to give away 70% of my net worth and have already given away $1 half billion dollars. I've never been a Forbes 400 so i really don't have to take that pledge Your giving pledge has a loophole that renders it practically worthless, namely permitting pledges to simply name charities in their wills. I have found that most billionaires or near-billionaires hate giving large sums of money away while alive and instead set up family controlled foundations to do it for them after death and these foundations more often than not are often bureaucracy ridden sluggards

44:42 These rich are delighted to toss off a few million a year in order to remain socially acceptable, but that's it. I'm going to stay far away from your effort, but thanks for thinking of me cordially." And Gates responds! What you're doing is fantastic! You're giving- WHAT?! Yes, yes, Bill Gates is so nuts this how he responds to that email Sounds like a bit boilerplate. What you're doing is fantastic You're giving a high percentage and doing it in a very efficient way to causes you have thought about, thought deeply about The key benefit of your getting involved in the pledge would be having people learn more from your example both on your pledge letter and your participation In the yearly events We believe that the more people we get involved, the stronger the effort will be And the more people who will join in

45:29 You are right that the Giving Pledge allows people to join in who don't give until their will comes into action. Since people don't know when they will die, it is a bit difficult to make the timing of their giving super specific. You are also right that some people set up foundations without strong focus or leadership and with high overhead. Yeah no kidding! And blah, blah. So it's fine for you to stay out but I want you know that we agree with your views on philanthropy and would benefit from your joining in if you're willing to talk further about this i would love the chat on the phone sometime And then Wilson comes back. Mr Gates, thanks so much for your email but as my previous email indicated I wouldn't have much fun or add much value to this group you being a liberal think you can change people more than i think i can But let me make one comment when i talk to young people who seem destined for great success i tell them to forget about charities and giving concentrate on your family and getting rich which i found to be very hard work

46:27 I personally and the world at large are very glad you were more interested in computer software than the underprivileged when you were young. And don't forget that those who don't make money never become philanthropists! When rich people reach 50 and are beginning to slow down, this is a time to begin engaging them in philanthropy. I greatly appreciate just leaving it at that...cordially." Basically, screw you and Melinda and Warren. Well I would... yeah well they're pretty arrogant about this whole thing in fact which brings me to one of my points over the years

47:10 especially with Bill and Warren, and they're all we do the rich should be taxed more. They never say that it's a income taxes should go up for the rich including themselves which is and then Bill is one of those guys who used to pay himself like $1 yeah am I get my CEO pays $1 so the wealth tax would shut these guys up? Yeah! I gotta get back on that ain't gonna happen now I'm gonna did you could well Yes, otherwise you end up with a situation like the one here I have a clip of which is taxes in France listen to these numbers Yeah this said this got past. The situation in France because the French are facing new tax hikes yeah exactly everyone's trying to calculate now how much more they're going to be paying at tax hikes came into place from January 1st

48:00 Among these, a change to the rate of value-added tax or VAT. The tax on most goods and services. Now it's the change that affects every consumer no matter how much or how little they earn some businesses are trying to absorb the cost of the tax increases not pass it onto their consumers but as Kate Moody has been finding out its not an easy task Champagne and a meal out. Small luxuries being affected by the New Year's tax hike This restaurant owner has vowed to protect his customers and won't raise his prices but he'll find other ways to save For the 29 euro menu we'll take off the poached eggs with morel mushrooms because morels are such a rare product Rare, and too expensive to offer

48:45 Now that the intermediate VAT rate, which applies to restaurants hotels and train tickets is boosted from 7% to 10%. Services like plumbing also fall under the same bracket. For this plumber, the new rate amounts to about 6 euros per house call. He too has promised to absorb the extra cost concerned about discouraging new customers. We'll take it from our profit margin so maybe we'll earn a bit less but at least we won't lose clients France's standard VAT rate which applies to goods like clothing rises from 19.6% to 20%.

49:22 while the basic rate on food remains unchanged at 5.5 percent but some consumers worry the extra pennies will add up yeah this is VAT yeah VAT 20% it's 21 in most of Euro land, 21 anything. It's 21%. You know what was interesting about this report that was kind of overlooked in terms of understanding it because there were a number of things, this is all from VanCat they talked about Lithuania is now in the eurozone and they're gonna have a little bit of inflation but every time you hear a report about this and you hear it here all the time too they're going to... just a meme! They are gonna pass it along to their customers. Yeah well France- They do

50:07 In France, they're going to absorb it. That was the kind of theme of this because the French have a socialistic mentality and so they all suck it up instead of... I mean we're gougers! I lived in The Netherlands from a very young age and when we moved there 1972, I believe the highest bracket income tax was about 72 or 73 percent And this came down dramatically later on, but this is where it was when we started. And of course you had so-called free everything and it was all great. And you know what? Capitalism has its problems, socialism has its problems too... It does not work because people take advantage of getting a free ride. I don't feel so good! Oh I'm gonna go...

50:49 well you know my back hurts I'm gonna stay home this week because you'll get it yeah you get paid for it anyway and if your if your if a long-term disability, you get at least 80% of your last paycheck all the stuff what is just like the insurance companies when you have an insurance company people... and the culture of The Dutch growing up. I will never forget people would take out a trip insurance for vacation And they would lose their phone or, not phone because we didn't have phones... Their camera typically. Oh my camera was lost or broken? Yeah I'm just gonna report it to insurance so i can get a new one! It's my right! People would say, ik heb er recht op! It's my right because for some reason you've paid enough The people start to feel what they feel is enough. Oh I've paid enough now it's my right too uh to collect

51:43 And I've seen this happen and with the value-add attacks, massive fraud in this. I worked at a restaurant busing tables and the guy was like yeah you know give me some of those VAT receipt to empty VAT receipts i'll give you 100 guilders at the time if you give me a booklet of those it's just massive fraud everywhere! It only invites fraud and it's very easy and its easiest for the people at the top to defraud No, no. Forget about it! We have diverged to such a degree where the rich are truly disgustingly wealthy and I have no disgust for money and the poor are just disgustingly poor and us schmucks in the middle we're the ones getting raped over all this there's a great article in Business Insider they went to see The Wolf of Wall Street

52:40 the theater they went to is one right behind Goldman Sachs's office, right there in the financial district. The field work it's called? Fieldwork yes and during this entire movie which apparently is a long one like three hours whenever DiCaprio who plays the Rich creep. Yeah, Belford is a it's based on a true story whenever he was like taking coke to sober up from the lewds you know there was everyone I mean I remember being watching Beverly Hills Cop on its in a Times Square movie theater and everyone was cheering on Eddie Murphy it was a very you know very black crowd isn't Beverly Hills cop no with something it was

53:27 I think it was Purple Rain, it was some...I don't remember what it was. Maybe it was just Eddie Murphy's Raw or something God what was it? Regardless you get the audience of people cheering and like, oh yeah shoot him kill him! This is what these guys are doing when he's stealing money and ripping off his clients, he's wearing a wire and he slides a piece of paper to his number two in command that says don't incriminate yourself from wearing a wire. And the crowd is yelling that's right stand by your firm! Don't rat it you know it's like... What kind of audience was this? They're so vocal. Yeah this was just Wall Street guys. Wall Street guys

54:14 the financial district this is what it is they don't care they are ripping everybody off and enriching themselves and you know, its fine. It's disgusting but the guillotine could come back people just want to remind you so there's no way... You'd fuck your head on a stick? It wouldn't surprise me yeah so VAT sure! Its just to rip us off more I don't know maybe Hillary can fix it You know, I don't think that she's on the public side on any of this stuff. Get that sense? I don't know maybe i'm wrong so I ended up watching the entire uh house of cards. I didn't realize you know I had to give away the whole story but it mean now I'm even more disgusted at Obama was like admiring this guy in the show The guy is a murderer! Yes

55:12 Yeah, the show is Everybody is despicable everybody. Yeah, the little reporter she's a Girlfriend jerk. Everybody is a horrible person in this thing, it's very good story because you're just jaw dropped over why? What? I know! It's pretty good. Just cold-blooded horrible person the only person that's kind of interesting that might not be a horrible person is the woman who quit that little non-profit they were running and to get because she's having a baby. But even then, she was out or out to get the other one so I mean it was just people would have to do of all the things you want to see on Netflix go watch House of Cards and then the other thing is I've been rewatching Rubicon still a good story on Amazon its free to Amazon Prime users as in HD

56:07 Very good story too. I got a lot of research that i want to discuss with you and I want to get to that but first, even at the the first show of the new year, I have to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C Dvorak! What was that again Adam? In the morning to you John C Dvorak Well in the morning to you Adam C Curry And in the morning all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air subs in the water. All the dames and all the knights out there yes! Of course in the morning to everyone in the chat room now back in good graces as we start off the year with John happy about the chat room noagendastream.com yeah that probably won't last but it's always nice to start off on a positive note and thank you to our artists Silicon Spin brought us the art for 5-7-8 the last piece of artwork for last year

56:56 and we appreciate all the work that our artists do. It seems like some people have already put in for future episodes, I'm not quite sure how that works but anyway very... it was just a nice end of year piece and we're very curious to see what happens in this new year and all of our artists are always credited and it's always highly appreciated thank you noagendaartgenerator.com And then of course we have our model I think we long ago discovered that you can't monetize the network. There's no necessity for aggregation, you can go direct and build your audience We've been working on this for six years and we continue to build in and grow very slowly Yes slow but sure though It is sure...I got a invitation from a magazine in the Netherlands

57:48 The editor, the chief of the Editor-in-Chief is called the New Order Foo which is crap magazine. They've always been mean to me too. Always mean you know with articles like who does Adam Curry think he is and then they interview a whole bunch of people. That would be good yeah it's not very doesn't never turns out nice no no and so hey one of you know some listener alerted us to your stance on Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing Yeah, maybe we should talk about that. I'm like yeah oh let me think you're going to make me into an idiot hoaxer That's probably what you want to do No no! Conspiracy theory nut Exactly

58:28 Exactly. No, no no! And you know we think that you have a... I heard seven or eight minutes of you talking during Christmas break about uh because i said i accuse him of never having listened otherwise you never would have asked me this she's no no i heard seven or eight minutes on the sandy hook and you know the evidence and what i said we've done hours of this over months like you can't put this into a one-page article It's impossible. It will not work and all that happens is, you know I get nothing out of it No but don't you want to promote some of your ideas? NO! No i dont

59:05 What? We're here to promote people's ability to think. Yes! We're here to improve peoples lives, we are here to do that sort of thing and if you're going to promote anything then we do promote the show but... But your never gonna get promotion for this. There may be one person who will go like oh yeah let me take a look at that and all of us are like ah I knew it Tin foil hat crazy nut job. Where's the tinfoil hat? Yeah, exactly That's exactly right. No, no we know this yes. I'm like wow You know, and to myself I also had to reset like okay this is you know...I could see all the danger. Like warning Will Robinson! Back away from the mainstream press because it was so... Remember the last time we did something? We were in Los Angeles and it was a real publication maybe it was New York Times or Wall Street Journal and they would not accept my title of media assassin

1:00:03 Like well, we can't print that. So but that's what I am no That's not a real title do you remember that? What would Maggie what newspaper was that or maybe it was USA Today Or I don't remember this yeah, I remember you get into a beef about something though Yeah, they're not our friends know they did they just want to make fun of us Well, it's because No, but here's a guy who is being paid... Because we do it with them. So is the... But I guess the point is the way it works over there in that land and that mainstream land isn't you know? You're in a big company your big publishing house to multiple magazines We got to you know Do something yeah will make fun of somebody or maybe not even and then the other Magazines can jump on it extract stuff and call the guy nuts And then we've got a little thing going on more people will buy our magazine just some controversy Just whatever we can get

1:00:54 And we opted out of that years ago. And the only way we've done it is by the model that we've created, which is in no way an Indiegogo or a Kickstarter. This is something very specific which may only work with an audio podcast, by the way I don't even know if will work with many other forms of media and when you know We're not working for tips You know don't-no tip jar... It used to work for PBS In the early days it was pretty much just what you gave them this and it was different when I was a kid the public broadcasting thing

1:01:33 More honest operation they were a little low, and they were not quite at the same standards in terms of broadcast quality laying basically It was it was there was good material on there But it wasn't uh it wasn't it was like Russian TV We should we should trace back to see when that changed And what the change was because it's not low right anymore underwriting came in yeah Oh you mean let me see where do we have yes? I don't know. Oh, here it is. Okay moving on to money how are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession and what about foundation grants? Two different stories. Underwriting is down for everybody this is the area that is most down for us sponsorship, underwriting advertising call it whatever you want

1:02:28 Call it whatever you want. Yeah, sure whatever you want to advertising Mm-hmm I were obviously Advertising in today's era when the guys are done because these advertisers demand I demand 60 seconds of promotion for Chevron and how can PBS sit there with a straight face and say here is the Kaiser Medical Report an independent organization funded by Kaiser How can they say that with a straight face? I think they're, honestly think they're deluded. I don't think they're being insincere That's the scary part Here it is! The Kaiser not just the PBS medical report underwritten by Kaiser No no...the Kaiser from Kaiser Permanente

1:03:20 From Kaiser, the Kaiser family of products. Yeah it's like watching ABC where it says, you know, it says scoreboard Vizio scoreboards and Volvo scoreboard Ford brought to you by Ford. This Ford minute! Oh yeah... The Ford minute. And really we tried to watch a little bit of the shows from Times Square now I did Time Square in 1987 and at that time I had a bodyguard, an armed undercover off-duty cop standing next to me because there was no guard rails or anything. There wasn't even... it wasn't even a camera! The camera was on one Times Square up on the 50th floor looking down at me with a huge zoom lens and it was like hey good luck curry

1:04:14 There was no crowd control, there were no gates, no podia and NO NIVEA! Nivea which is a cream for your elbows has made entire New Year's blue on Times Square. And it ruined everything! It just...it's ruined And you switch back and forth, it's just the whole thing is ruined. It used to be a crazy million people running around like... And now it's all controlled program scripted! I like Jenny McCarthy but no. I like Carson Daly you know? But NO! It's dumb! You talk about dumb things and make me feel dumb then we watch dumb commercials. It's dumb that's why went to bed

1:05:06 Well, you know you're better off. We didn't get to see any of that because up at the North Western Bunker we don't have any broadcast TV Mimi moved all the stuff around and she unhooked the antennae to the TV And so everything's on Netflix either watch net or through the Roku box Everything is Roku Yeah well I got a new Roku one of those Roku 3s boy what a nice it's a nice box Wow What an upgrade that is? I had no idea The cool thing about the Roku 3, I promise in the newsletter we talk a little tech so this is it. Oh no! This is it? This is it. The Roku 3...the thing you got to know about the Roku 3 is that has a universal search function at the very beginning

1:05:50 So you can search for a movie and then it will find where it's available in all these other different services with the prices corresponding prices. Yeah, wait a minute Why should I go here for three dollars when I can see the same movie for free on Amazon? And it really truly is an outstanding product. I hope those guys make money I don't see how they're selling...and also just the whole idea It's a little Linux thing they got in a little enclosure. I mean, it's all it's beautifully done. I really like...I don't like the fact that it's broadcasting like a Wi-Fi network for my remote control that's new? I think that's dumb there's no reason for that to do that way but... I actually had lunch with the CEO

1:06:29 And he's a nice guy, he is one of these real nerdy characters. He is an accountant not really a tech guy isn't it? No he was kind of a techy guy because he started to replay TV and he was neck-and-neck with TiVo those two guys there that he's essentially the inventor of the DVR He says get better bandwidth over the internet now. Yeah, it's handled correctly well It's they have so I think they have new They must have the H 264 decoding down they've done it really well on their on this new Roku where the quality picks up very quickly. And here I can even do Time Warner Cable on the Roku, so now I don't have to deal with their whole stupid idiot box which pisses me off to no end rebooting a million times L minus 10, L minus 9 whenever they update their crappy ass interface! Alright... So long way to get to the fact that we have people

1:24:07 Alrighty then. Well, I spent... of course there was no news so to speak. I spent a lot of time looking at Turkey which we'll talk about later. There's quite a lot of, we have so many people who are actually in Turkey who understand Turkey, you understand what's going on with the Gulenists versus the Erdogan and oh by the way confirmed it's not Erdogan is Erdoğan though this kind of like in between Dutch g and a W. Okay. The official pronunciation yeah well I'm never gonna pronounce it that way. You can do whatever you want

1:24:47 But I also got...I almost got angry is not the word, but like i've had so much enough of this snow job that has been propagated on us and just like Bitcoin. I need to point out some obvious things too, and in particular our kind of audience. I don't think it's our producers and listeners per se but it is the same profile of person or job they have where you know Bitcoin is well... let's just ignore the fact that the person who invented Bitcoin is non-existent

1:25:25 This has always baffled me that really intelligent people who would know a lot about technology are all over it and are willing to ignore the fact that Soshi Nakamoto, person group whatever is just an unknown entity. That kind of for me compromises the whole thing And the same is happening with this Snowden Poitras Grand Green Raft, shut up don't ruff Bart Gelman and most importantly, Jacob Applebaum. I'd like to focus my knives on him today. Well that would be good you know, all of a sudden Applebaum shows up with a bunch of these different...I'm glad you got some clips. It's actually JC who picked them up. Some clips? Holy crap! He is showing up all over the place and he's any some of his assertions are weird and I am interested in this too because Buzzkill Jr sent me a bunch of these clips.

1:26:26 What he was thinking what it was delirious from the flu. It's just the boy is back to him I said, you know this guy this guy's not a guy that you should be apparently metafilters all You know, but he's a hero too much. Yes. Yes Thank you really gotta end That's that has to end and as far as I'm concerned it ends today All right go couple of things so I so he did a keynote quote-unquote a speech Which a grand green route did his keynote the day before at the the chaos computer club their annual thing in Germany now Jacob Applebone lives in Germany as does Laura Poitras, and I am always just curious. You know apparently he someone's paying him to tweet I don't know what else he does He of course is famously The inventor and programmer and writer of the onion router tour

1:27:20 And this is the same thing with Bitcoin, and of course I need to drive one's attention to it so you really understand. But Tor... It's one thing to write free software and to give away free software, our Freedom Controller that we've actually opened up before. And when the Outliner is fixed in that there'll be another round if people can use it and you can already get the source code now do whatever you want There's no money... We didn't take any money! I'm talking about Dave Jones who really did all of the programming But if you look at the sponsors of the Onion Router, and we know that this is a 5013C corporation. It does about 1.9 million dollars in funds The active sponsors for 2013 as listed on the Torproject.org website Broadcast Board Of Governors That is the FCC essentially, the government SRI International These are huge

1:28:19 huge nonprofit organizations that have tons of money coming in from places like, oh I don't know the US State Department as is one of these sponsors. The U.S. Department of State Bureau of Democracy Human Rights and Labor they will be sponsoring through 2015 CIDA we went through this previously the Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency The National Science Foundation Radio Free Asia The Knight Foundation An anonymous North American ISP The Ford Foundation, famous for being anti-semitic. The anonymous North American NGO and then of course there's more than 4300 personal donations from individuals like you! Now if you look at past sponsors on this very same page remember this is essentially Jacob Applebaum. Just him there's no team

1:29:13 that I know of, another huge development organization no offices. Now the guys in Berlin taking all this money from well let's take a look Google AccessNow the Google Summer of Code Human Rights Watch all of these known NGOs with an agenda But also very interesting to see in 2006 he receives the Omidyar Network enzyme grant. So there is where the circle connects between Grenn Greenwald, Pierre Omidyar and Jacob Applebaum who now also is apparently a journalist as he coincided his

1:29:53 speech, his hour-long speech with the release of all kinds of unbelievable information on Der Spiegel! Der Spiegel I tell you. So he was in...I have clips where he's going to be referring to this all this great information he put in Der Spiegel and I don't know if you had a chance to read this article? The framing of this to me is very simple. This is more of make the NSA look like horrible, horrible black hat hackers who are out to penetrate your not just your computer but every orifice you have and to protect the true evil that is going on which is all the companies made that he's taken money from first of all

1:30:43 and the State Department runs lots of Tor nodes, lots of them. You can figure all this out I think he is an agent trying to protect the true whatever is really left of the true intelligence apparatus in America which is decentralized services where people gladly build up their profile on Facebook and LinkedIn and Gmail and everything Google and Yahoo because he protects those companies the fascist companies while yelling all kinds of total nonsense about other things and he is indeed now seen as a hero and it has to stop because I'm calling him out as an agent. So if you look at this Der Spiegel article, the first thing that really made me mad which is very easy for everyone to just...you can google this they- He's trying to frame how many evil people are working at TAO

1:31:41 which is total awareness operation or whatever the hell, what does he call it? Come to me. Of the NSA and here's how Der Spiegel frames it And he's credited as one of the journalists now. In January 2010, numerous homeowners in San Antonio Texas stood baffled in front of their closed garage doors They wanted to drive to work or head off to their grocery shopping but their garage door openers had gone dead leaving them stranded No matter how many times they pressed the buttons The doors wouldn't budge The problem primarily affected residents in the western part of the city around Military Drive and the interstate highway known as Loop 410

1:32:20 In the United States, a country of cars and commuters, the mysterious garage door problem quickly became an issue for local politicians. Ultimately the municipal government solved the riddle. Fault for the error lay with the United States Foreign Intelligence Service, The National Security Agency which has offices in San Antonio. Officials at the agency were forced to admit that one of the NSA's radio antennas was broadcasting at the same frequency as the garage door openers! Embarrassed officials at the intelligence agency promised to resolve the issue as quickly as possible and soon, the doors began opening again. It was thanks for the garage door opener episode that Texans learned just how far the NSA's work had encroached upon their daily lives! For quite some time now, The Intelligence Agency has maintained a branch with around 2,000 employees at Lackland Air Force Base also in San Antonio So he is saying essentially because of these 2000 employees... And they started broadcasting this secret signals

1:33:16 So if you look into this, just so that's the framing he's trying to frame and say you've got secret shit going on people. I happen to be a licensed amateur radio operator and there's all kinds of open source information about who is allowed to broadcast where and what. And this actually started in 2005 when the Department of Defense, not the NSA per se... The Defartment of Defense started their LM system, the land mobile radio system which was for all of the DoD not just the NSA and you can there are stories going back to 2005 not 2010 but back to 2005 even in Canada, Canada

1:34:06 and I have these links in the show notes when this started to happen. And if you look at garage door openers, and there was fair warning that the LMR was going to be on the 350 megahertz frequency in that range which is what these non-unlicensed part 15 garage door openers are and the rule with part 15 from the 390 megahertz, the rule from part 15 is that you may use very low power on certain frequencies But you have to yield to priorities and priority licensors, licensees of the frequency which the government they sent out their information said hello garage door guys We're going to start operating our LMR world You know globally but really all across United States on this frequency and they ignored it. Right? They were told to go to 315 Yes And they ignored it

1:35:07 And this is the framing of your huge... No, I just want to set it up that- Yeah. No, I agree. No, I think you're right and they ignored it because they're just lazy Right but for Der Spiegel to frame an entire NSA Is Evil with this does not bode well for the journalism contained therein as far as I'm concerned It doesn't bode well for the article! No, it does not. It's really stupid They looked into it and some lawyers are crooked Now Applebaum, if you look at his Wikipedia entry has pretty much worked for the government. You know so why all of a sudden everyone is so accepting of him as some hero is beyond me it truly is beyond me If you look at his wikipedia page I'm gonna go do that yeah in fact I'll play the jingle Independent computer security researcher and hacker

1:36:02 He was employed by the University of Washington, a core member of the TOR project. Represented WikiLeaks at The Hope Conference." Yeah he just that's when he popped onto the scene never heard this picture of him on the Wikipedia oh yeah terrible um so he's essentially okay by the way Laura Poitras does this too well hold on here let's go back for a second because this is very important he was brought into this by Laura Poitras now Laura Poitras I have yet to see a serious interview, a serious analysis of who she is and both Poitras and Applebaum are doing something that is really...

1:36:46 that I'm going to start doing. John, how many years did the United States stop me and investigate me at the border? How many years?! Let me just quote right from this because it applies to you he has subsequently been repeatedly targeted by US law enforcement agencies... How many- I went two maybe three years! I could not get into the country without being questioned for hours And what's great about this- You're being targeted, my friend. Both Laura Poitras and Applebaum have no proof! They have no proof that they were held at the border There is no proof, they are just saying it I don't have the proof either How can i prove that happened? They didn't give you a note and said... You wore wire one time if you remember Did I wear wire? Yeah Did we record that? Yeah Did we broadcasted it? yeah We should find out

1:37:40 I was wearing a wire. Wasn't that interesting? Yeah, so this gives... This is Laura Poitras's entire credibility and Applebaums' is that they've been stopped by the US Customs My wife gets thrown into the fish tank every single time she arrives at US Customs She's being targeted my friend We're both being targeted So this is not credibility it's bullshit You fucking shill. I'm sorry, i get really mad about this all right so Poitras now if no one has read the same thing that he was detained with an actual number detained him 12 times at the US border after trips abroad and sees the laptop yeah Poitras I now point is very interesting um if you have not read about the uh the IED attack when she was in Iraq

1:38:37 and happened to be up on the roof. So, in fact I'm going to find the exact article for you because i think it is quite important You've read about this haven't you John? Here it is US soldiers allege Poitras co-author of NSA's... Oh yeah no we had a clip describing the situation where Poitras apparently had set these guys up and guys were killed in the process that's why the military hates her Yeah the military does not like her And she lied about this setup. So what happened was, as she was filming... She was staying with some... With what was thought to be the kingpin of this IED attack in Iraq In uh.. Where was it? Oh! I have to find it here. Well anyway, got the links on the show notes

1:39:27 when she was up on the roof filming, when this IED attack took place. A couple guys got hurt badly i think one or two died and then she denied it but later she wrote an email which has been published... She said yeah no I was on the roof I was filming and in other words she knew that this was going to take place and she did not tell her fellow countrymen hey you know you're gonna get killed! No she felt it was more important to get the footage which makes her the traitor in my mind. And she's never been prosecuted for that or anything, it's someone who does that for love of film cinema really needs to check herself that's really

1:40:13 Yes, very low and the US military does not like her for this very reason. So that's the words got out so whatever However she somehow is getting her money We know that she's a MacArthur fellow says you got some money from there But she is certainly not to be trusted but anyway, so she somehow uh... is the one that snowed in reaches out to why this happens you know we have our thoughts about this being a cia operation who do the real work who really do kill people they do what worked at you did kill people on the street they killed people in anywhere they need to take your people drones and they had they truly are building the internet of things they have their investments in all companies that are now being protected interestingly enough by

1:40:56 Applebaum, but the NSA, the pansy boys and the technology that is oh so scary it's so scary it's all so scary this is what applebaum is promoting. So I've took his hour and I chopped it up I got a lot of clips but most them are very very short But I want to dissect this and I think its important to us that we need to help people understand this guy may not be your friend. I certainly don't think he's any kind of hero and there is an addition to this, John? I think there is a gay thing going on... We're obviously proponents of anyone doing whatever they want to do Well there is mention in the Wikipedia article that he worked for kink dot com

1:41:43 I don't know what he did there, but it's an internet pornography operation out of San Francisco. This is where they had the whole... his technology was running servers that had pedo-bear crap on it. Yeah a lot of BDSM stuff cat fighting fetishes But then but I think there is a because maybe these people are being controlled through sexuality or some other thing Look at greenwalled. I pretty sure Applebaum's gay, and I'm pretty sure Laura Poitras is gay This this um it would not I would say just an appear by appearances And also the way they act when they're on the interviews I don't think there's any question about that right But I am always worried when you all when you yeah when you bring in sexuality into spying It goes hand-in-hand somehow

1:42:35 I'm not sure how it fits in but some of that may become apparent with some of these clips. So first, here is Applebaum framing his speech. Okay, he's also trying to do shtick Control baby, he said that. Yes he's trying to do Austin Powers schtick on stage and there is no rafter And that is what we're going to get into It's not just about control of machines What happened with Rafale is about control of people And fundamentally when we talk about things like internet freedom and we talk about... Hold on. When someone uses internet freedom, they're on the wrong side of the debate as far as I'm concerned. Tactical surveillance and strategic surveillance We're talking about control of people through the machinery that they use. This is really kind of you know i'm trying to

1:43:28 make you laugh a little bit because what I'm going to show you today is risk-living depressing. So he, this is a common theme of him framing this now there's about 6 000 people in the audience who have paid for this and I am going to just guess that if you have the Chaos Computing Club's annual conference the 30C3, I'm going to guess that maybe there's some spies and intelligence operatives in the audience. I'm just guessing! And maybe there's one on stage...and everything this particular guy says is scary it's frightening it's scary its wrist-slitting depressing basically the NSA

1:44:07 They want to be able to spy on you and they if they have ten different options for spying on you that You know about they have 13 ways of doing it, and they do all thirteen. What does that mean? What does that mean I think he's slipping up And as you'll hear in a lot of what he's talking about in this speech He's he's exposing things that he is privy to That have never been discussed by Snowden or has not been released in public by snowed and that's for sure But also not by Glenn Greenwald or Bart Gelman. And remember, Applebaum also had an interview with Snowden and he published that. And Snowden had a kind of different voice in that interview was little more snarky... ...and so who the hell knows if even actually spoke with him but I'm telling you Applebaum is not clean!

1:44:57 So that's a pretty scary thing. Scary! Scary! Basically their goal... Scary that they'll, there are 10 ways and they will use 13. That is pretty scary. That is scary. I'm shaking at the speed. The goal is to have total surveillance of everything they're interested in so there really is no boundary what they want to do There is only sometimes a boundary on what they are funded to be able to do and the amount of things they're able to do at scale They seem to just do those things without thinking too much about it and they're specific... So this is all subjective conjecture. He's, this has no proof for this! And I'm not defending the NSA but this guy is a-I know a pitchman when I see one. I know a huckster and a shuckster when I hear one This guy is selling you something. ...tactical things where they have to target a group or an individual and those things seem limited either by budgets or simply by their time

1:45:49 And as we have released today on Der Spiegel's website, which it should be live. I just checked it should be live for everyone here. Oh wait a minute! I'm sorry that would be the supporting sales materials in Der Spiegel where we set up the really scary fact that the NSA used the national land mobile radio system and it screwed-up garage door openers that were legacy yeah We actually show a whole bunch of details about their budgets as well as the individuals involved with the NSA and the Tailored Access Operations Group in terms of numbers. The Tailored Access Operations Group, so here he is talking about that one specific thing John

1:46:34 The numbers. There's 2000 people who are ruining garage door openers! So she gave you a rough idea showing that there was a small period of time in which the internet was really free and we did not have people from the US military that were watching over it, and exploiting everyone on it Now we see every year that the number of people who are hired to break into people's computers as part of grand operations Those people are growing day by day actually and every year there more and more people that are allocated, and we see this growth Wow oh my good well I'm so happy you see the gross says they're exploiting everyone. This is it this is his entire speech is not about

1:47:17 Google giving your information to the government. It is not about Yahoo! Giving your information to the government. Not about Mueller hanging out at Facebook. In fact, Facebook has not even mentioned once in this entire speech it is all about low-level technical hacks and cracks that may you know...it's like Get Smart Chaos 1950s Yeah, so what? This is chicken shit compared to what's really going on. But this is what is happening He's taking a group of very intelligent people and is snowing them

1:47:55 I mean listen to his proof. There is a planetary strategic surveillance system and there are well, there are many of them actually everything from I think off-planetary Surveillance gear which is probably the National Reconnaissance Office and their satellite systems for surveillance like the keyhole satellites These are all things most for the most part we actually know about these things that they're on Wikipedia Oh Well, well, of course It's on Wikipedia, so of course yeah of course now it's not that I don't want to believe this but what kind of speech are you doing where you're saying oh they have off-world listening devices that's the NRO. Of course these they're shooting stuff in space all the time but because i'm wikipedia that's your proof please don't insult me um But I want to talk a little bit more about the internet side of things because I think that's really fascinating. What is an accent from? He says part and important

1:48:46 What kind of accent is that? Is that like a Buffalo, New York accent or where's that from It's one of those accents that is, I think it's milieu-based. That you will not find as a general unless it's like... It's a community based accent. You'll never really discover... You'll find other people that have the accent like we had with Soledad O'Brien and the group of women that have this kind of unctuous way of presenting and reading which somebody described as sitting on the toilet trying to take a crap accent but you won't find it as I don't think you're you'd have to find some really good linguists that could identify it. I dunno. Just a note the first thing that I see in the chat room is Adam is spreading disinfo he hasn't even watched the presentation! You know what? Fuck you. How do you clip without watching it?! Thank you how can even, how can you even spray or say that? I watch- The bat net guy Yeah kick him off

1:49:43 ...releasing today with Der Spiegel or what has actually been released, just to be clear on the timeline. I'm not disclosing it first. I am working as an independent journalist summarizing the work that we have already released onto the internet as part of a publication house that went through a very large editorial process in which we redacted all the names and agents and information about those names including their phone numbers and email addresses... Now explain this applause to me! So he just goes through this whole thing which is barely understandable. I didn't do this by myself, we work with a huge organization! We talked to everyone, we redacted them and put them out... And no agents' names were exposed and everybody's clapping? What did- are they the agents in the audience?! Yeah It must be!! They're all happy! Oh thanks for not exposing me man! Yeah i have to quit and go work for General Motors I mean that is literally what I'm hearing am I nuts?? No I think that's exactly why else would you clap yeah Why are they clapping for this? Phone numbers and email addresses

1:50:40 And I should say that, uh...I actually think that the laws here are wrong because they are in favor of an oppressor who is criminal. So when we redact the names of people who are engaged in criminal activity... What? Yeah listen to it! This is very interesting! What?! I know listen! ...including drone murder, we're actually... No no hold on let's back that up He's talking about drone murder? NSA doesn't run drones. continue to publish. Okay, so he's saying that somehow he knows... He has information that he has received from people who are involved in criminal activity committing drone murder which is really would be the CIA but okay and they've decided not to publish that

1:51:35 so that they can continue to publish. Dude, if you know that someone in the government is involved in actual criminal activity and murder... You need to be a real hero and fess up with that! That's not okay! And he makes it worse! I think it may be illegal not too Well he's saying that that's not the way, no he says... No I'm just saying there may be a statute. That if you see that it maybe true! that if you see something, you must say something in this instance. He's saying I want to release the names but i can't because otherwise we can't publish yeah well what's more important no no no that's what he said! Well I know it's what he said the whole thing is just bull... None of this is true. There's no list of drone murderers? Now he makes it even worse by hedging and saying

1:52:39 Sometimes it's legitimate what the NSA does. I'm flabbergasted that no one is throwing watermelons at this guy We also redacted the names of victims of NSA surveillance because we think that there's a balance Unfortunately, there is a serious problem which is that the US government asserts that you don't have standing to prove That you've been surveilled unless we release that kind of information But we don't want to release that kind of information in case it could be a legitimate target and a legitimate Target hold on a second. I thought this all was all about this is all wrong but none of them Maybe there's some legitimate targets What does this term?

1:53:18 uncomfortable with that term but let's say there is a legitimate target, the most legitimate target and we didn't want to make that decision. But we did also want to make sure that we didn't harm someone but wanted to show concrete examples so if you look at the Spiegel stuff online we redacted names even of those who were victimized by NSAs oppressive tactics which I think actually goes further than is necessary, but i believe that it strikes the right balance to ensure continued publication and also to make sure that people are not harmed and that legitimate good things however rare they may be they are also not harmed. Who talks like that? An agent! He sounds like an ins- yeah Now what is our one of our main theories about the NSA this really about espionage

1:54:06 And it's about corporate espionage and blackmail, but you know that's a part of the espionage. He talked a lot about this particular technology which collaboratively is called Q-Fire And when I heard this, I'm like oh okay that makes total sense in our theory. QFire is essentially a way to programmatically look at things that flow across the internet that they see with turmoil and then using Turbine they're able to actually inject packets to try to do attacks Interesting thing about QFire also is that they have a thing called a diode. QFire has this really neat little detail which is that they compromise other people's routers and redirect through them so that they can beat the speed of light

1:54:50 Where did I hear that before? Beating the speed of light. Do you recall the Federal Reserve meeting notes were leaked and beat the speed of light not more than six, seven weeks ago? Well, this has happened a number of times. This is the front loading kind of where you switch the announcement supposed to happen at two o'clock exactly and Somehow through some mystery mechanism I guess this is it The message gets through some few insiders at yeah before the speed of light Before the speed of light would have made it Yeah

1:55:28 Yeah, so thank you. Now and he goes into a lot of detail about that that you go watch the whole thing if you want to learn and actually is pretty bad at explaining it but I'm like okay yeah that makes sense sure these guys use that to cheat they use a diode apparently that diode and then I was so surprised we don't have to worry about a thing John the NSA is not looking for you They're not looking for me. And as far as I can tell, it's being used for at-scale exploitation which is not really in my mind a targeted particularized type of thing but rather its fishing operations its fishing expeditions It's more like fishing crusades if you will and in some cases looking at the evidence that seems to be what it is targeting Muslims I might add Oh Because that's what they're interested in doing oh okay this is...that's news

1:56:21 They're only targeting Muslims apparently. Where did this show up in the documentation? I don't know, i never heard this No Now let's go back and catch him in a huge lie and he starts to ramp up his hand is holding the hand above the heads of the U.S fascist companies who are complicit with the government are giving your information to the government just for money. As far away as eight miles. This is about the packet injection that can be done as far away from eight miles and just to make sure you're scared he's going to lie about something has no proof for it. To inject packets so presumably using this they're able to exploit kernel vulnerability of some kind parsing the wireless frames

1:57:05 And, yeah. I've heard that they actually put this hardware from sources inside of the NSA and inside of other intelligence agencies that... They actually put this type of hardware on drones so that they fly them over areas that they're interested in and they do mass exploitation of people Now we don't have a document... What? No no wait wait wait you're killing the punchline Back it up now. We don't have a document that substantiates that part But we do have this document that actually claims that they've done it from up to eight miles away so he has a product sheet, but that is a Device that's up to eight miles away can Inject packets through wireless Data frames

1:57:53 And he makes up by saying, I know from people inside the intelligence agency they put this in drones and fly over and compromise everybody in one fell swoop. I can't prove that but I've heard about it! Come on Applebaum... Now all he has is that this thing will do eight miles okay great Fabulous again bull crap, but it also doesn't matter. You know this is They don't have enough people in the world to deal with all this This is not where the true intelligence gathering is taking place let's listen to him talk about the companies Here's a ramp up so that's a really interesting thing because It tells us that they understand that common wireless cards probably running Microsoft Windows Which is an American company?

1:58:37 that they know about vulnerabilities and they keep them a secret to use them. Now this is not a throwaway line, this American company thing... This becomes just common theme. This is part of a constant theme of sabotaging and undermining American companies and American ingenuity. Boo hoo hoo! They're undermining American companies in American ingenuity Oh, it's the opposite of what's going on exactly. Oh but wait It's time for some credibility want to make a couple points clear This wasn't clear even though it was written in The New York Times by my dear friend Laura Poitras who is totally fantastic by the way and But you're great years You're great

1:59:24 You're great, Laura Poitras! My dear friend you're great. Hey thanks for killing those soldiers. Now this company thing he... This is so I'm glad you're picking up on it. So Emperor Alexander the head of the NSA really has a lot of power If they want to right now, they'll know that the IMEI of this phone is interesting. It's very warm which is another funny thing. So he pulls out an iPhone and it's like oh yeah they can hack it right now! It's warm? Oh yeah they must be rooting around in as we speak that's obvious And they would be able to break into this phone almost certainly and then turn on the microphone...and all without a court

2:00:04 So that to me is really scary. Very scary! I especially dislike the fact that if you were to be building these types of things, they treat you as an opponent if you wish to be able to fulfill the promises that you make your customers Now listen what he's saying If you want to build these things like Apple builds iPhones or like... He brings it back to him a lot I build free software! And I don't want to cut because they're against me. And as someone who writes security software, i think that's bullshit. Oh it's bullshit! Now taking money from Google and Pierre Omidyar and the Naval Research Laboratory in the State Department... That's bullshit Applebaum So if the NSA wanted to tomorrow they could kill every anonymity system that exists Of course By just forcing everyone who connects to an anonymity system

2:00:53 to reset. That's the same way that the Chinese do. Scary! Right now in China with the Great Firewall of China, so that's like... The NSA built the equivalent of the Great Firewall of Earth Oh yes! That firewall is scary To me it's a really scary heavy-handed thing and I'm sure they only use it for good But yeah back here in reality that to me is a really scary thing especially because one of the ways that they are able to use the word scary it's throughout the whole speech. That's why I took that clip specifically and here comes Scary scary scary so here comes the dumbest Of all gay jokes, in fact It is

2:01:39 a gay death joke really which makes it so unfunny and this is where I'm like why are you doing this? And the audience is uncomfortable. I don't think anyone got the joke It was like, whoa! So there was a joke you know when you download mp3's and ride with communism from the 90's Do you remember this great joke? When you download MP3's and ride with communism. Who made that joke?! I don't remember this joke... I don't remember that joke at all But he is going to use this joke to take it into even worse jokes There is a joke when you download MP3's and ride with communism from the 90's Some of you may remember this When you bareback with the internet You ride with NSA

2:02:21 When you bareback on the internet, you ride with the NSA. A bareback of course is a sexual term for not using any protection usually used in gay porn Yeah it's a gay term Gay! Yes very funny Very funny I'm gonna get AIDS from the NSA Is that what your saying? What are trying to say Applebaum as a, as a quick... Play it again so we can get because he had little punchline at the end. He tried to make up for this lack of... Nah, it doesn't matter. So there was a joke you know when you download mp3s you ride with communism from the 90's some of you may remember this? When you bareback with the internet and your ride with the NSA or you're getting a ride going for a ride

2:03:16 Stick to your lies and stop with the shtick. Okay, now he's off track. Why is he clearing his throat so much? When you're lying and you're nervous about lying and you're up on stage and you're shilling to protect the very companies that have given you money... The very people who have given you money i.e., the State Department Google Pierre Omidyar. He's very... and by the way if you look for the Enzyme Grant from 2006, you google it, you can go, you can look through all the Omidyar network they do not even recognize there is not a single mention of this award of the Enzyme Grant There is not a single mention of The Tor Project but its all over his materials

2:04:05 How does that happen? That they just denounce, renounced their award. They don't talk about it anymore? I would not profit removes an award from their website No, it never happened. So I don't think it ever...I don't think that they'd happen that way It doesn't matter there's more nuttiness He's off the rails Fox Acid is essentially like a watering hole type of attack where you go to You go to URL quantum insert puts like an iframe or put some code on your in your web browser Which you then execute which then causes you to load resources one of the resources that you'll load while you're loading CNN comm for example which Is one of their examples

2:04:41 They, you like that by the way? So you know that's an extremist site. You might have heard about that a lot of Republicans in the United States read it right before they wage illegal imperialist wars. So, okay so you go to CNN.com you might have heard of this site it is a what do you say terrorist site or whatever? A lot of Republicans read it before they wage imperialistic illegal wars Is this the kind of information that people accept in these intelligent computer hacking circles? Republicans read CNN

2:05:23 before they wage illegal wars? The point is that... What? ...imperialistic wars. Yeah, let's hear it again. Versus the load where you're loading CNN dot com for example which is one of their examples They like that by the way so you know if that's a extremist site So um You might have heard about that It's a lot of Republicans in the United States read it right before they wage illegal imperialist wars. So the point is that you go to a Fox Asset server and it basically does a survey of your box... You know, what is his agenda? I'm sorry only Republicans read CNN before they wage imperialistic wars? I don't know man your Democratic president is the one pulling the trigger. Alright let me speed up a little bit let's just talk about how- This guy

2:06:18 Yeah, yeah this is a good... This is not.. This is pretty straightforward stuff. I mean this guy's just....I don't know why he has become such a cause celeb. But don't you see? And what's the Berlin thing going on there? What is the Berlin angle here? Well I would subject that Poitras and Appelbaum are agents for the Germans Berlin has a huge... Yes, like Vienna. No but the Berlin has a huge base for the German intelligence right it's brand new building and didn't somebody mention they were actually their apartment or wherever they're staying is nearby? Yes! So you can walk to work?

2:07:04 Yes, you know this... Why doesn't anyone even suggest that? I'll let it be me. I think these people are agents for the Germans! Why else all of a sudden is it so important that Angela Merkel has been spied on?! Because that's their boss as far as I'm concerned and you know the Germans are very angry they're not in The Five Eyes So this is not all that hard to comprehend, but because he goes into this detail with a couple of literally just a couple of boxes on a PowerPoint slide and says this is what it is.

2:07:40 And yeah, are they real NSA documents? Do they look authentic? Does it show me code? Does it show it working in the field? Uh do you have any proof of the drones flying over and compromising everyone's wireless networking frames. Can you imagine this scrambled spaghetti you'd get if you were at 40,000 feet which is 8 miles and you were trying to pick up the all the Wi-Fi signals Which you can't detect at that distance. I don't care what you say no That's not just the ones that I have they're gonna travel that far John No That's not true as you know on 9 11 people were able to call from their cell phones

2:08:18 So this you know that that is absolutely technical technically possible but this is the problem because people get the the people in this audience are being this is a psychological operation of Epic proportions and these people who are very intelligent are not thinking straight. Yeah, I'm against the government This 95% of this show is based on that But when you're being duped by an obvious... clearly the guy has been paid by, he's not even ashamed of saying it. He's been paid by the State Department! He's been paid by Google! He's been paid by all these people! He is lying to you! Now another interesting point is that for the Yahoo packet to be beaten The NSA must impersonate Yahoo This is a really important detail because what it tells us Is that they are- This by the way sounds exactly like stuff that ISPs do

2:09:16 And that British Telecom was setting up to provide you with different advertising. It's like deep packet inspection, and I think that's what this technology essentially is... Is to beat the packets from the advertiser to inject different advertising. Yeah no this is a very common practice. But he's making it sound like you're going to Yahoo! To get some news and they're changing the information and sending it back to you with different information. Like, what is the point? What is... To show me that Duck Dynasty... They're giving you different stories than other sources. Yeah! Duck Dynasty is not true. The guy does he loves gays. It's not true. Essentially conscripting Yahoo and saying that they are Yahoo so they are impersonating a US company

2:10:07 to a US company user and they are not actually supposed to be in this conversation at all. Another U.S. company, ooh! When they do it then they of course basically if you're using Yahoo you're definitely gonna get owned so um and I don't just mean... Oh well maybe if Yahoo had uh I dunno granted some money to your tour project maybe you wouldn't be fucking with them like this why single out Yahoo? If you're using Yahoo, you're gonna get owned because you are an idiot. In that Yahoo is vulnerable... they are but I mean people who use Yahoo tend to maybe it's a bad generalization but You know they're not the most security conscious people on the planet Oh! You're a dick! You stupid! You Yahoo user-you Because they didn't spend any money on me like Google did Yeah i think your dead on this This sounds like a Jesse Jackson tactic

2:11:02 Are you supporting this operation? You're supporting the Rainbow Coalition. Exactly! Yeah, well if you're not supporting us... we gotta take a look at your minority hiring. All right so let's get to the crux of what he is really trying to do which is protect the companies mainly the ones that have paid him in the past from any persecution. This is the same thing that we were talked about the other day on some tech shows where they're saying, oh the tech companies are- they're outraged! They're so mad because they're getting blamed and they went to the president and said President we're not having this anymore stop We don't want-we're not doing anything bad

2:11:40 And Applebaum has been paid. Now we're gonna name a bunch of companies because fuck those guys basically for collaborating when they do and fuck them for leaving us vulnerable when they do. Let's name some names, fuck those guys! Oh let's see who are you gonna say? Fuck You Apple, Fuck You Google, Fuck You Yahoo, what else LinkedIn Twitter Skype Microsoft all of that yeah no no oh gee no Yes! Fuck those guys. I'm gonna name names, I'm bad. We do that in the most loving way because some of them are victims actually. Oh! Some of them are victims John maybe the ones that paid him important to note that we don't yet understand which is which so it's important to name them so that they have to go on record and so that they can say where they are and so that they can give us enough rope to hang themselves So what did he say? I love this term where he messes this one up

2:12:34 One record. And so that they can stay where they are and so that they can give us enough rope to hang themselves They can give us enough rope to hang themselves Yeah, this is backwards It's because he's lying that he has it backwards I really want that to happen because i think it's important to find out who collaborated and who didn't collaborate. Okay so this is, now we're getting down to it... Who collaborated and who didn't collaborate? You are a collaborator! That's right if you're a collaborator were going to shave all your hair off. And Zinni where has he given the speech? He's what? Where is giving his speech in Berlin? A collaborator is a term that's not really recognized too much by Americans but as a very

2:13:13 nasty term for France and in Germany in particular because it's for the East Berlin or the East Germans you know they were collaborating with there was either government evil government and this is a this is a charge word he didn't use it for a reason yes I was very interesting. I'm watching the chat room out of this corner my eye, and the chat room is not understanding what we're doing Because I think a lot of people who are in IRC chat rooms command-line really want to believe What this guy is selling and I'm willing to put my ass on the line and to be burned Which is what we'll get. We'll get a lot of emails, I'm sure at Adam curry calm but one day some of you will thank me for

2:14:02 Now, this is again the chat room goes back into its normal sour quality state. Yeah it's like milk you know once it goes bad so we have this now here here's one of the big things and if you google this if it's all over the web the NSA can has complete access to any iPhone, can get into the iPhone, can turn on the microphone, could take your contacts your text messages at any given moment and he has a slide which he published on Der Spiegel with four boxes and some ludicrous name like

2:14:42 blow-up Jeep something, Euro jeep whatever. Four boxes! No code no working examples but a slide that says we can own any iPhone now we know that the first slide that came out ever was about prism and I think this was the mistake i think this is where somehow it didn't...something went wrong and that slide was never supposed to make it out Because it's it showed all the companies that are this is this is what he is now covering up in his speech This has been just as they've done everything they can to and at that phony meeting with the president was part of the scheme To do Cisco. Yes, Cisco wasn't at the meeting or HP wasn't at the meeting No So we have Tim Cook Tim Collins Tom Tom whatever his name is Tim cook We know that

2:15:40 Only a few months after Steve Jobs died, according to that slide Apple joined the PRISM program. And I'm pretty convinced that Glenn Greenwald was chosen specifically for this putsch... For this scam of discrediting a whole bunch of agents and covering up what the CIA really does And Greenwald ran with it. This was a mistake, this first slide because now we have to run interference and get everyone back on track and focus on hacking from drones and you know... I love that one. Hacking from cable connectors and all kinds of stuff. And i'm going to show the ludicrousness of this in just as I wind this up in just a minute Can I ask a simple question here since you've done all the research? Was Apple on the list of donors or...?

2:16:33 Apple was not on the list of donors, but now I want you to listen to his version of the Apple iPhone hacking. So my version is yes, I saw the first slide...I think that is probably true and Steve Jobs probably died a superhero he probably got killed! I don't know any elites who died of cancer this guy has to die of cancer why that guy? he dies of cancer, shitty-ass cancer and three months later they're on the list. I think they waited for him to die Tim Cook Collins by the way gay! I hate to do this because i'm not anti gay but there's a gay thing here that common quite the opposite thank you but there's a common theme here and all of a sudden we have all this information at the iPhone could be compromised what does Apple bomb say? Here is an iPhone back door

2:15:40 Only a few months after Steve Jobs died, according to that slide Apple joined the PRISM program. And I'm pretty convinced that Glenn Greenwald was chosen specifically for this putsch... For this scam of discrediting a whole bunch of agents and covering up what the CIA really does And Greenwald ran with it. This was a mistake, this first slide because now we have to run interference and get everyone back on track and focus on hacking from drones and you know... I love that one. Hacking from cable connectors and all kinds of stuff. And i'm going to show the ludicrousness of this in just as I wind this up in just a minute Can I ask a simple question here since you've done all the research? Was Apple on the list of donors or...?

2:16:33 Apple was not on the list of donors, but now I want you to listen to his version of the Apple iPhone hacking. So my version is yes, I saw the first slide...I think that is probably true and Steve Jobs probably died a superhero he probably got killed! I don't know any elites who died of cancer this guy has to die of cancer why that guy? he dies of cancer, shitty-ass cancer and three months later they're on the list. I think they waited for him to die Tim Cook Collins by the way gay! I hate to do this because i'm not anti gay but there's a gay thing here that common quite the opposite thank you but there's a common theme here and all of a sudden we have all this information at the iPhone could be compromised what does Apple bomb say? Here is an iPhone back door

2:17:28 So, dropout Jeep. You can see right there SMS contact list retrieval voicemail hot microphone camera capture cell tower location cool? Do you think Apple helped them with that? I don't know. I hope Apple will clarify that. It's important that Apple doesn't. Here is a problem I don't really believe that Apple didn't help them. I can't prove it yet, but they literally claim stop, stop, stop, let him finish. Let him finish. You got to go back because I think there's something we both missed out here. Okay? He says, let me just tell you what he said. He said, I would like to have apple clarified that I hope it doesn't. Yeah now this whole, if you go all the way up to the end, I'm going to play the whole thing again and let's try and let's refrain from making any noise. Go

2:18:23 here's an iPhone back door. So drop out Jeep, so you can see right there. So SMS contact list retrieval voicemail hot microphone camera capture cell tower location cool? Do you think Apple helped them with that? I don't know. I hope Apple will clarify that, it's important that Apple doesn't. Here is the problem! I don't really believe that Apple didn't help them yet but they literally claim any time they target an iOS device it will succeed for implantation either they have a huge collection of exploits against Apple products meaning they are hoarding information about critical systems American companies produce and sabotaging

2:19:11 or Apple sabotaged it themselves. Not sure which one it is? I'd like to believe that since Apple didn't join the prison program until after Steve Jobs died, that maybe... It's just they write shitty software." Wow! So his take on this- Oh by the way let's cue the applause We know that's true No, Apple doesn't write shitty software All software is shitty so his take on this Apple didn't do this. They're not complicit Steve Jobs died in the right shitty software Wow That blood blows me away Well, how about this? And by the way I still think it's telling that he says I hope apple does it I agree I agree you good catch

2:20:04 Okay, wait how about this all software companies that write elaborate systems like that and put Microsoft at the top of the list IBM did the same thing with OS do they have a way that you can remotely control the product so you can analyze and fix it from a distance so you don't have to have people bringing stuff in and back and forth. So, you can turn your machine... You call IBM in the days of OS2 but with Microsoft you could say I can't my machines acting funny Andy You can do in some situations the guys could say, I would like to take control of your machine if you'd allow me to. Yes And they will literally have a there's a back door and they will look at all this stuff from their perspective and it's got a lot of different things that wouldn't surprise them in the least If there was a remote control way to turn on the microphone or the camera why wouldn't there be?

2:20:58 Apple bombs mission of course, of course there is apple bombs. Mission is to protect the very same companies that are fascistically involved That is the true definition of fascism with the government, particularly in collaboratorship with the government and here's his wrap up. Look at that! It is another American company that they are sabotaging They understand that HP... They being the NSA is sabotaging these American companies John Sabotaging them! ...servers are vulnerable and they decided instead of explaining this as a problem they exploit it And Iron Chef through interdiction is one of the ways that they will do that

2:21:39 I want to really harp on this. Now, it's not that I think European companies are worth less. I suspect especially after this talk that won't be true in a literal stock sense but i don't know... I think it is really important to understand that they are sabotaging American companies because of the so-called home field advantage The problem is as an American who writes software who wants to build hardware devices This really chills my expression and also gives me a problem which people say why would use what you're doing You know, what about the NSA? Man that really bothers me. Man! What you're saying really bothers me...you are protecting the very companies that are complicit in this The director of the FBI walks around the halls freely at Facebook Where's that mention? Well there is a lot of dimensions to this and I want to mention another one which you touched upon

2:22:34 which is he's essentially slamming the American companies for writing bad code and having the NSA all over it, for whatever reason. Never really explains it fully and they're tapping in on everything so why would you want to use these products? So if you're working for German intelligence you wanna promote non-American products by slamming the American product. Which is what he just said! He just said this element seems to be there yeah he just said when in fact I think that our thesis which is that the NSA is really all about industrial espionage to benefit American companies. That's the sick part of it, I know! Wow all right let's just finish up last 28 seconds. We don't deserve the Huawei taint and the NSA gives it and President Obama's own advisory board that was convened to understand the scope of these things has even agreed with me about this point that they should not be taking place that hoarding of zero-day exploits

2:23:31 cannot simply happen without thought processes that are reasonable and rational and have an economic and social valuing where we really think about the broad-scale impact. I don't know what report he read, but the report that i read which has exactly one actual lawyer on it and the rest is all intelligence shills said exactly the opposite! That they most definitely should have zero-day exploits on hand to use when appropriate, and they can do it without going to the court. They can have the Department of Justice i.e., Eric Holder say yeah go ahead we'll get the warrant later on

2:24:07 It's exactly the opposite. Okay, so I don't know shit about technology okay? I'm dumb and this is what all get you don't know but a wire frame injection packets q5 Back doors no I don't put reading the chat room play the rest of this I'm not reading No, no, I'm not nothing that turn to channel like the chat room to me. That was a chatroom guy. That's That was not the chatroom guy that was experienced guy But I am a licensed amateur radio operator. I am licensed, it's important for this last bit because he went at the very end of the speech and has this whole lead up and he is saying who was surprised by this? Who thought they would be surprised by anything that i said? I'm gonna blow your fucking mind now! And then he goes into his mind blowing piece of technology

2:25:00 which is continuous wave radar. And this continuous wave radar device, as you will hear him set it up... ...is 1 kilowatt at about a gigahertz I am licensed up to 1500 watts, 1.5 kilowatts and i'm license far into the gigahertz spectrum Now I know a thing or two about RF This genius's take on it and the audience laps it up. When I told Julian Assange about this, he said it's great He said hmmm...I bet the people who are around Hugo Chavez are going to wonder what caused his cancer And I said you know I hadn't considered that but you know I haven't found any data about human safety about these tools Has the NSA performed tests where they actually show that radiating people with

2:25:59 One kilowatt of RF energy at short range is safe? Now what he's referring to is the CTX 4000. He shows this slide on the screen And the CTX 4000, as per its description is used to collect signals that otherwise would not be collectible and extremely difficult to collect and process. The way it works is like a radar and it spouts off this 1-2 GHz beam 45 MHz in bandwidth and whatever pops back can then read your monitor The device that he's showing and the specs that he is showing says output power user adjustable up to 2 watts using the internal amplifier. External amplifiers make it possible to go up to 1 kilowatt which is 500 watts less than I am licensed to use after memorizing a hundred questions

2:26:56 in the 1 to 2 gigahertz range and he is now spinning this A as if they are standing next to people with a one kilowatt signal beaming it into their head, and that this is how Hugo Chavez got cancer. My god! No, you guys think I'm joking right? Well uh yeah here it is. This is a continuous wave generator um or continuous wave radar unit um you can detect its use because it's used between 1 and 2 gigahertz and um its bandwidth is up to 45 megahertz user adjustable two watts using an internal amplifier external amplifier makes it possible to go up to one kilowatt just gonna let you take that in for a moment really

2:27:43 I can put up a wire in my backyard legally and blast 1.5 kilowatts at the same frequency, you don't need to have that soak in Applebaum! It's not a big deal Don't stick the wire in your mouth This is bullshit Yeah and you get a nasty RF burn You can get it Of course you can get an RF burn But he's making it sound like The evil NSA Is blasting people with a kilowatt from 4 inches away Who's crazy now? You are! Hey, you gotta laugh. So that goes on for four more minutes and people just lap it up I'm sorry i actually know something about this so Applebaum if as long as you pay him for his development work of his free quote-unquote software I'm sure he'll protect you Google, Omediar And I'm pretty sure that Grant Greenwald in all of this

2:28:53 is, he seems like the perfect guy to line up. He's so narcissistic! He's so full of himself. He loves to see and hear himself so much this is what I think what happened John? Yeah there were 50 000 slides or documents or whatever they had to come up with this... There's more, 1.5,1.7 to keep Greenwald shut-up To keep him happy didn't think that he was going to get something else. He doesn't have it I doubt it exists, but he doesn't have this. So sitting there the true collaborators Poitras who we know nothing about and everyone gives her a free pass except for the US Army who thinks she pretty much might have helped kill some people Americans and this guy all living in Berlin i'm disgusted by it and i'm disturbed that people who truly mean well and really understand technology

2:29:55 are falling into this trap of, oh look at all the exploits while their information is being sucked away from the true media companies that we're just giving a pass to and the internet of things that the CIA is building. That's where it really happens you're being distracted and looking at all the wrong things. Backslash! Oh by the way when he says I didn't clip this if your reporter should only use tails Which is a Linux install on a USB stick which uses... Oh, Tor! I'd run away from anything Applebomb suggests to me. Yeah yeah i can see that well they do everyone it's a known fact that tor is compromised so i don't know why people are so still yacking about it as though its not It's funny Mickey walked by the studio and he says you know

2:30:55 Who is that? It's Applebaum. She knows, but you know at this moment she hasn't put it together because I haven't done this whole spiel and said what do you think she says you know whenever i hear someone talk like this like they've got it all figured out I don't trust them okay I'll take that as instinct yeah well okay well the conclusion is Applebomb is what he is He's part of the cabal that we don't know who they work for, what the point of it all is. Well, the conclusion kind of is he's protecting the true NSA which is all the companies you know... It's AT&T, it's Verizon, it's Google, it's Yahoo! No, he's protecting corporate interests Yes. He's not protecting the NSA at all? No. But that IS the NSA. Facebook IS the NSA

2:31:54 It is the FBI. That's what it is, that-that is... that's the database! This is no s-this is not a secret but you're being distracted away this is what it is Yeah well that's why I'm not on Facebook Alright let's take a break Sir Craig of Manama now, we want to thank a few people here for supporting today's show. $186.19 East Kilbride South Lancashire UK good for him Happy birthday or happy new year Dorothy and Lillian He started with an instant night will end was his donation to take me to a feminine sounding baronet nice sir And yeah I think it's sir Andrew Lemesony in Colorado Springs one two three four five

2:38:20 If you really wanted all the information that somebody had on their computer, wouldn't you go to Carbonite and say give me that? Has anyone even asked them? Hey Carbonite have you ever received a request People won't even ask that of this company because they're advertising. This is the inherent compromise that you have to deal with, that we don't have so we can at least ask the question. It's only one out about ten of these companies do cloud backup How about Apple's backup system? They back you up to the cloud. Microsoft has this too? I've always asked this question because i'd never been cloud oriented Except for my email, yeah and you know it's kind of essentially on the cloud because I'm using IMAP And you can't really avoid such things but when you use a lot of these services like PayPals on the cloud is very sluggish It's really not a very positive experience But I've always asked the question in an era

2:39:17 of hard disks, right now at Costco. Four terabyte hard disk for about 150 bucks I can go buy one, a backup hard disk. And I can back up to my heart's content with no use of my bandwidth or anything else. They don't have to wait forever because I'm not going to get any throughput as opposed to 3.0 USB backing up to my own hard disk and take the thing and give it to a friend or I could put it somewhere and then you backup again some other time with super cheap! That is a dirt cheap price for four gigabytes

2:39:53 I'm it's terabytes what am i thinking? 4 terabytes. Have you done this? I back up, I have two backups! I have a 2 terabyte drive in the trunk of my car... Well okay there you go NSA It's not that hard to hit that old Lexus. They had to crack into the car and his horn goes off at the drop of a hat Which by the way that would be illegal Yeah that's illegal Going to Carbonite going to Carbonite and requesting your data is non-illegal So I can buy these cheap, I could get a two terabyte drive for like less than $100. And I could back up to my heart's content and it doesn't take that long and I can backup everything just do it like you do a mirror It doesn't make any difference Why during that era have we been promoting? Why has the tech community in general been promoting this on over-the-air backup This online backup that is slow! It takes forever Well I'll answer the question Look at who's advertising

2:40:54 That's your answer. Why is the tech community promoting it? Because there's no critical analysis of it, because they're the ones that are actually advertising! What?! I mean from the beginning Intel did for a while It's dumb, its slow...I cannot give a mirror image on my machine I got at least a terabyte worth of photos and you can't back these up over-the-net unless I had a gigabit connection I guess that's maybe why Google is pushing the gigabit Ethernet. No, you think very good! But you know that but it's not available to me. AT&T is going do it Verizon already doing this all gonna be this? Don't trust it and then if they don't like your looks on your face say hey you know what we're canceling your account Oh by the way what does Google say You can run a server on our Gigabit Ethernet

2:41:47 You can't run a server on that. Yeah, they've come back a little bit... Oh well yeah you can kind of maybe.. You could run an Xbox like thing whatever Now the first thing I say is you need to connect us That's alright if that's the internet people want fine Fine. You go use that and that's what they want. That's what they want John Alright so again Another part of the conversation we could not have if we were seen it No, of course not. We couldn't even discuss any of it or we'd lose the advertiser beyond the phone and be like... Hey! Hey! Oh shoot. You guys better apologize Wait a minute wait a minute wait a second Yeah hello it's Kareem Dvorak here what's up? Yeah this is Carbonite I'm your account rep Hi Mr. Carbonite account rep what's up? Hey my boss chewed me out for what you guys did

2:42:41 What do you mean what we did? You better fire those two guys and you better announce they were fired, and you better announce they were fired because they said bad things about us. Or else what? What are you gonna do? Get me and my other buddies that advertise in your crappy network And we're gonna pull our ads! All right hold on a second let me call over to ad sales hold on a second Hey, ad sales. Hey, is that sales? What is the Carbonite contract worth to us? Is that a lot of money I mean because they're like got some bitching phone call about the network wide let me look it up Network Wide 500 no no it's five million dollars a year Network Wide oh well they're threatening to pull unless we fire those curry and Dvorak guys don't let those guys you know even paying him let me check their salaries

2:43:32 What are their salaries? Nobody cares. Another theater of the mind play from the Curry Dvorak acting group. Candice Hart congratulates her boyfriend Kosey, who turns 26 today. Christine Zachman celebrated on the first of the first and Catherine Lee was uh well Catherine celebrated her birthday on Sunday last Sunday so we say happy belated birthday and happy birthday to all of you from your friends here at The Best Podcast in The Universe!

2:44:14 And then we have of course Sir Craig of Menominee. He becomes a baronet which is a title and Then we have Edward Sheets who is very proud to join the roundtable first one of the new year Grab your blade, there you go. Perfect! Edward Sheets step forward my friend And congratulations on becoming a member of the Roundtable of the Knights. We hereby proudly pronounce thee Sir Sheets, Knight of the Noah Jenner Roundtable and for you as requested Cuban cigars and single malt scotch along with cannabis and Cabernet hot librarians and Jager bombs opium and warm orange juice hookers and blow rent boys in Chardonnay bong hits and bourbon vodka vanilla gaseous and sake psych sparkling cider and escorts and Of course the old-fashioned mutton and mead

2:45:03 It does still work sometimes. We also could have gone the other way, you were talking about InfoWars earlier there's big news! The Department of Health and Human Services has ordered 14 million doses of potassium iodide. 14 million tablets of course has to be delivered to them by February 1st 2014. This is... Oh well that's... What? That is the six-week cycle. It hits about there Really? Yep! Interesting, well what Prison Planet is doing is they're selling iodine since the government can have it but you can't apparently so you can go buy some I would get it in pharmacy I think you should go buy some no you buy the one with Alex Jones on it are you kidding me go look at his glitz His head is a little... Yes he's on it He's on the bottle All shaped like his head He's got the coffee he's got the iodine

2:46:01 Oh yeah, the coffee cracks me up. You know I said it, I pledged that sometime before in the next few months when I can't come up with anything... ...I will find out what the vendor of the coffee and find out what the deal was. Nice! Alright good. It's just drop shipped he doesn't have nothing to do with it. Yeah but this is fun to look at. It's hilarious So I have to mention something here, I'm down to two sling boxes Well actually three. There's one in Canada that is just a horrible setup, it doesn't seem to work very well My main Calgary connection gave up and unhooked it or something I don't know what happened It happens Got one in New York out of two One of them works the other does And then I have my guy in Tampa who seems to be he has got a nice TiVo box there He has got one of the best systems But all my other boxes are either dead Or missing The Australia box just disappeared from my list

2:46:52 Well, there's some help out there people and there was also some kind of weird upgrade. I think it never worked I need a London box a London box That's what she said hey If people want to help out with the show, I think they should participate in this new The White House has a film festival now and the Film Festival is to promote stem in classrooms, technology in the classroom. This is all part of your common core marketing that the White House is now completely complicit in You want to hear this little ad done by Bill Nye? The science guy? Bill Nye! I'm always intrigued by anything he does

2:47:42 Okay, how come he's not? And we wanted information. We had to go to the library and look things up on little cards, we had to find books, we had to open them, we have to study the books but now you in the information age... Information from all around the world even from outer space is available to you at your fingertips It has changed the world what you have now is the ability to learn things so much more quickly than I could when I was in school but look

2:48:22 I came out fine. No, so here's the thing if you think that you can make a cool video about how you learn science technology engineering and math using the technology that's at your fingertips then the president of the United States wants to hear from you The White House is accepting submissions for the first ever White House student film festival this is for kids like you between kindergarten and twelfth grade You can get all the information you need online at whitehouse.gov slash film fest and the films can be short In fact, they have to be sure if they camp any longer than three minutes The official selections will be featured on the White House website and shared around the world On White House sites and tweets. Oh I can't even stand this guy So it's all promoting science technology engineering in math please whatever you do no art or music Let's just keep that away from the stupid slaves

2:49:20 I have a clip that i wanted to play on the last show and im gonna play it now because i was listening to it again and i realized there's something we're overlooking, in general of fractal which we don't talk enough about that is actually a fractal if you this is about as guy went on a shooting spree apparently his wife was harassing him so he went shot up parents here her parents their granddaughter, whatever shot the wife shot one of his bosses like it was collaborating with her there she was hounding him about you know support or something. A typical Monday in America he flipped he flipped and then went crazy and I was as i listened to this a second or third time I realized that this is a fractal of the bullying

2:50:09 situation in schools where you some kid is harassed and harassed he can't take it anymore because of bullying and then he goes on a shooting spree then kills himself what's the difference? Play this. I'm sorry. Just say play the clip, and tell me what the difference is okay We're learning new details this noon about a Louisiana man accused of targeting his family and former colleagues in a series of deadly home invasions last night. He killed a hospital administrator, his former mother-in-law and his own wife before taking his own life ABC's Matt Gutman has more Police believe this man, 38-year old Ben Freeman went from home to home in Lafourche Parish 30 minutes outside New Orleans on a mission to kill. This is unprecedented in Lafourche to have three different victims unrelated targeted by single killer

2:51:00 His first stop at 640 yesterday evening, the home of his former in-laws. There he allegedly killed his ex mother-in-law Susan Goh wounding her husband parish councilman Louie Goh and their daughter Andrea Freeman had been married to the couple's daughter Jean Just 20 minutes later, police believe Freeman targeted the home of Milton Bourgeois, the administrator of Osner St. Anne Hospital where Freeman once worked. Bourgeois' wife Ann was also shot and taken to an area hospital where she is now in stable condition A third stop...and a third death This time Freeman's own wife found dead in their home Police say a shotgun was used in the shootings A massive manhunt continued until just a couple hours ago

2:51:47 when Ben Freeman was found dead in his car on the side of a highway, of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. And during Freeman's spree three hospitals where he used to work were put on lockdown while police searched for him. Right now police are still trying to figure out what sparked that deadly shooting spree. Now what is happening today? They even had lockdown! Yeah, what is your question about this? It's not a question it's an observation that this is the exact same bullying meme without the bullying message because that's the guy flip for the following. I got this idea actually from Mimi when she heard the clip and she says, oh you know it was obviously the wife's fault that all has happened You know we don't blame the victim enough and i thought she was just being glib but at the same time

2:52:34 Maybe the was though I mean she was obviously gouging this guy. She was bullying him using the courts his parent is mother-in-law or you know, The mother-in-law I'm sure was on her side and again harassing him and And the guy flipped just like a student does in a school and then they have the same exact results A guy kills himself and they put it bunch of people on lockdown I'm not seeing why they have not picked up on this as a fractal that they could They actually they can't do it because you can't turn this into a bullying meme when it's exactly the same thing So you actually have this this this thesis about bullying creating these maniacs to go on a killing spree But they won't take it to the next level because then you're blaming the victim. Because he's not gay It doesn't work unless there's gay involved that's when it becomes bullying yeah, well There's that too by I just thought it was interesting and we should start looking at like no No, I totally agree

2:53:31 And it has the same elements. Lockdown! Interesting... Anyway, we um- The white paper that Brian the Gay Crusader is putting together he's been feeding me He's been rewriting everything and It's really good about the gay, the so-called gay Russian anti-gay laws. Yeah? Oh man he's really... A lot of people get irked by when they see the reality of some of this stuff that we discuss and we got big credits by the way in this white paper good it was funny because at a certain point it's like you know because he wanted to prove us wrong

2:54:14 And then, but he also calls us as huge proponents and supporters of the LGBTQQI community. I can't wait to have that on a business card! Can't remember that... We are supporters of the LGBTQQI community. We're not yet. We're supportive everybody. As much as anyone. Yeah is what i mean? Is it much we were not anti-gay let's put it that way. We're not so I got a couple quick clips for the end All right, I had a few more things just to talk about briefly. We're running out of time. Can you push them off to Sunday? Yeah, Turkey's gonna have to be on Sunday because there's a lot... Let me just see what I got here so we'll do turkey on Sunday that's important let me just check oh yeah one thing and i need you for this Target can you see was there any short selling like before December

2:55:16 Do you have a way of looking at that on a chart? No, you what he needs a Bloomberg terminal I could have Horowitz look yeah. We asked Horowitz if you talk to him What's your what's your thing which is what are you looking for? What do you know? What is your basic? Thoughts on this. Okay, so target was compromised Target lost a lot of business target lost several points on the stock market when this hit yeah We know that the NSA is pretty shorts or Yeah, we were before the announcement yes correct I'm sure there were yeah, I just like to know if what he sees on his terminal because that makes so much sense

2:55:54 Yeah, it was a scam. That's the idea... This is the mob that does this stuff They got this thing going on and they'll do something They may have leaked the whole idea They sell or somebody picks up or if they start selling their names I'm sure it was listed as target customers And somebody finds it and then put out on the net The next thing you know the stock plummets and somebody who smartly shorted A few days before Was probably involved You know, it can maybe a bit said problem is if they're really really good these guys They would have shorted so long or so much earlier that you can't really put the finger on them So that means that's the real problem. The guys are really pros Yeah They don't sort two days before they shorten to months before well I just looked at the chart and I saw there was a lot of fluctuation in price

2:56:48 Now fluctuation of course is all relative due to what the scale of the chart that you're looking at. But I'm not good at that, so anyway ask him... And I will end my bits for today by reading you a headline from USA Today. More record lows than highs in USA in 2013, we have another huge storm in the East now that's your global cooling as promised Americans buying less electricity almost as little as 2001 this is going to really mess up a lot of business but the thing that I really have trouble with We have tons, there was another...

2:57:28 Report here cesium-137 found in strawberries mushrooms and more in northern California including the baby food Yes, this is all from Fukushima just so you know But what I can't find any analysis of is the environmental damage done by the train collision and explosion In North Dakota do you think anyone who's going to look at that at all? Do you think there's any not gonna happen. You think there would be any kind of environmental damage from this accident? I would hope You know what I was worried at the beginning of the show but now i know it's you yes all right wrap us up Johnny boy so you have a movie heist is called hearts and minds or something about it was kind of a wrap-up with Vietnam War very interesting documentary some of sense to link to and I watched little of it. And it had Daniel Ellsberg making this very interesting comment

2:58:22 It one part of it. He was one of the guys who was cut because he's the one who pretty much busted The whole scam of the Vietnam War wide open and I just thought this is a very nice little thing you talked about the administrations from Truman on being a bunch of Duplicitous liars, and the particular clip is liars and fooling the public Truman lied for 1950 on on the nature and purposes of the French involvement, the colonial reconquest to Vietnam that we were financing and encouraging. Eisenhower lied about the reasons for it in the nature of our involvement with Diem and the fact that he was in power essentially because of American support, American money and for no other reason. Kennedy lied about the type of involvement

2:59:17 doing there our own combat involvement and about the recommendations that were being made to him for greater involvement. President Kennedy lied about the degree of our participation in the overthrow of Diem, Johnson of course lied and lied and lied about our provocations against the North Vietnamese prior to and after the Tonkin Gulf incident about the plans for bombing North Vietnam and the nature of the build-up of American troops in Vietnam. Nixon, as we now know, misled and lied to the American public for the first months at his office in terms of our bombing of Cambodia and of Laos' ground operations in Laos

3:00:02 The reasons for our invasion of Cambodia and of Laos, and the prospects for the mining of Hai Phan that finally came about in 1972 but was envisioned as early as 1969. The American public was lied to month by month by each of these five administrations As I say it's a tribute to the American public that their leaders perceived that they had to be lied to It is no tribute to us that it was so easy to fool the public. I just want you to know that Benghazi was caused by a video keep it up the liars, It's good! What um... Can you in one sentence because you set it up that way? In one sentence the pentagon papers which are so often bandied about uh in connection with Ellsberg's name in connection with WikiLeaks and Snowden what exactly in one paragraph did

3:01:01 Pentagon papers expose that the Vietnam War was contrived for what purpose? Well, we were there was well if you listen to I in this same thing Eisenhower had mentioned in the 50s that Vietnam was at the place where we get most of our tungsten which was really necessary for our machineries and To tungsten and one other metal it was a metal thing. And then some people have surmised That there's a lot of oil off the off the coast which It has been confirmed more recently, but the oil's never really been exploded. We had a minerals interest and of course the big lie was that this was all part of... it was a domino theory that was going to

3:01:44 if Vietnam, South Vietnam fell then the whole all everything took from Australia to... Everything was gonna become communist. Right and that was the kind of the overriding thesis as why we had to be there Yeah that was before we had Muslims right? That was one of our... Communists were more important Now he switched them from the communists to the muslims Get tired of the communist thing Although they should bring it back because I've been reading about South Sudan And all these oil companies are all Chinese. They're all owned by China! Every single one of them. It's 80 that's why we're gonna let it go We're gonna let it become a Rwanda, but this is my prediction It's gonna become a Rouen and the economic hitman would verify this that its he would advise against it But I'm guessing they're going to choose that Let it become a Rwandan MSN and rubble and then will come in at the last minute after all the rubbles At the rubble stage and house the Chinese

3:02:45 Because right now I don't think we have it. No, no no it needs more rubble when not... It's pretty close though that most of what I've seen in South Sudan is kind of rubbly. It's very rubble! It's almost like 90% there how? Don't rough... Started off at high rubble rate. Don't rough about rubble rate okay all right give me another clip and we'll go well that was kind of good though that that it's enough to wrap it up for me Well, there is a kind of... I got a couple here. Let's see no smoking Palestinian... Oh okay this is the one that it's the funny one well it's not funny some guy got killed but play the Palestinian clip Are you sure? That's usually pretty funny when someone gets killed John

3:03:30 Your clip doesn't want to load. Here we go. A Palestinian ambassador was killed opening a safe that hadn't been opened in 20 years at his residence in the Czech Republic Police in Prague say 56 year old Jamal al-Jamal inadvertently triggered an explosive booby trap security device on that safe It had been moved from an old embassy building and officials say he wanted to find out what was inside Wow, you found out yeah sure did That's why you gotta keep copious notes. What's in this safe? I don't know, i only started working here a year ago. Well can I take it to my house? I don't know...I guess. Lovely! Alright lots of deconstruction on Turkey Russia and Palestine actually coming up on Sunday show looking forward to that thank you all producers executives associates everyone in the

3:04:32 Segment and below the line we really appreciate your help. Hope you enjoyed some of this I see a lot of people already checking in on the email saying yeah, thanks for exposing that guy Okay, I should be into can't wait talked about him before Yeah Haven't had a fun keynote like that to look at before well. I would go to one of those keynotes He sounds boring Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state where we will be flying drones on test missions coming up this year. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where i sit here waiting for that machine to reboot and it didn't do it I'm John C Dvorak Yes! We win once again Hey, we'll be back on Sunday everybody right here On your NOAA Jenny

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