Episode 817 · Tuesday, 19 April 2016

Sellout Politics

Political theater reaches a fever pitch as candidates trade barbs over tax returns and religious stunts while the media apparatus coordinates a specific visual narrative.

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About this episode

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders faced off in a contentious Democratic primary debate where Clinton strategically leveraged reproductive health issues to attack Donald Trump. The exchange highlighted a growing rift within the party as Robert Scheer accused the Clinton campaign of duplicity regarding her diplomatic record with ousted Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi. Meanwhile, Sanders faced criticism for a Vatican trip characterized as a political stunt after he failed to secure a formal meeting with Pope Francis, meeting instead with Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo.

Media bias remains a central theme as news organizations like CBS and ABC are accused of using flattering visual framing for Clinton while depicting Sanders with sneering expressions. In the Republican camp, Ted Cruz struggled to connect with a Manhattan audience during a gala speech, contrasting sharply with the local advantage held by Donald Trump. Further controversy erupted as Ben Carson compared restrictive GOP delegate rules to Jim Crow laws, while Florida prosecutors declined to charge Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski for the alleged battery of reporter Michelle Fields.

Domestic policy debates intensified as Bill Nye suggested jailing climate change skeptics, comparing their skepticism to the fraud committed by Enron executives. In San Francisco, local authorities investigated a bizarre assault involving a frozen turkey used as a weapon in the Hunters Point neighborhood. The episode concludes with a look at the Department of Homeland Security's new flexible hiring paths for cyber talent and the ongoing pressure from the White House to divert Ebola relief funds toward the Zika virus.


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CHAPTER 01 / 43 Discussion

Texas Weather, Mold Allergies, and Eye Strain

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They discuss the muggy weather in Texas following recent rains and the resulting explosion of mold spores affecting their health. The conversation shifts to eye strain and the difficulty of maintaining focal distance while working on computer monitors.

austin· texas· mold· allergies· eye strain· weather· humidity

00:00 I'm just going to leave this here. Slashing safe spaces everywhere and guarding reality for all ages while broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA Region 6, Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i have no idea what he's talking about I'm John C. Duvall It is crackpotting buzzkill! One day you're gonna come in on a Sunday and say something that's just gonna blow me away Today is not that day

00:44 I'm a minimalist. Yeah, now my eyes are weird again That's because of the pollens and it is hot in Texas right? Isn't it hot? It's well we had rain for the past two days so that should have cleared it up then Actually the mold is off the scale now Because when it happens I believe yeah rain comes. I have no idea by the way, I'm just gonna say this yes What happened what happens? I believe is that it rains and then when it stops raining There's a big burst an explosion of mold of like the way mushrooms go they get you all of a sudden They boom they just blow all those stuff into the air all at once now And that's what's going on. That's exactly what's happening so its muggy It's a bit see on your 80 degrees, but oh 80 in muggie

01:26 Like Florida in Texas I've never huh never experienced a G. How could how could that happen? I'm shocked there's mugginess going on there Alrighty so is this make your eyes it sure you know no no, but you know it's the focal distance So now I have to get really close to To the monitor and able to see You should need to get some reading glasses or some computer glasses or something. Believe me, I've been trying to figure this out for a long time The variable is my eyes they change! I mean...I'm in change John Maybe you're an alien? I'm transitioning To whatever Exactly Alright A lot of good stuff this week Okay Really boring debate At least it got into it a little bit Well there was at least a little bit of fire Just just a tad

CHAPTER 02 / 43 Discussion

Democratic Primary Debate, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders

The hosts analyze the recent Democratic primary debate, focusing on the mannerisms of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. They critique Sanders' comments regarding the disproportionate nature of Israeli attacks in Gaza and Clinton's defense of her diplomatic record. The discussion highlights a claim by Robert Scheer that Clinton's citation of ousted Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi is duplicitous given her role in his removal.

hillary clinton· bernie sanders· democratic debate· gaza· mohamed morsi· robert scheer

02:22 But and it's funny to listen to people analysis some say Bernie won some say Hillary I think Hillary one hands down Bernie still there with his waving finger You know like he's like call me next call on me next. There's nobody else the call on It's pretty annoying when he does that I mean if and What I now do is when i watch any two people speak, and... ...I always look at the person who's not talking. And for as much as Bernie wags his finger everywhere Hillary Clinton is smirking and like making little inside laugh motions She's pretty annoying too. He does it too Yeah she's uh..pretty annoying But you want to start with that? You wanna get some election crap out of there? We started with already we might as well bring a couple items up

03:12 There's one of the clips I have, which i don't think I wrote down yet. Sanders... Oh actually let me start with this. Here is the Sanders-Hillary Palestinian thing which was the one that got most of my attention that was kind of new he's kinda all in on this and and He talks about the situation in Israel and Gaza And she when they throw it to her It just a classic Hillary Clinton She says nothing We had in the Gaza area, not a very large area some 10 thousand civilians who were wounded and some 1500 who were killed. Now if you're asking me Not just me but countries all over the world Was that a disproportionate attack? The answer is I believe it was let me say something else Let's somebody who is 100% pro-israel

04:14 In the long run, and this is not going to be easy. God only knows but in the long run if we are ever going to bring peace To that region which has seen so much hatred and so much war We are gonna have to treat the Palestinian people with respect and dignity So what is not to say...to say that right now in Gaza Right now in Gaza, unemployment is somewhere around 40%. You've got a lot of that area continuous. It hasn't been rebuilt. Decimated. How is this decimated?

04:57 So as you listen to this, think he's talking about Detroit. Yeah how about East Austin? I mean anything would work. Health care decimated! Schools decimated! Decimated?! Oh we know that is only a reduction of about 10%. 1 out of 10. States and the rest of the world have gotta work together to help the Palestinian people That does not make me anti-Israel That paves the way i think Thank You sir. Approach that works in the Middle East. Thank you, Senator. Get off the stage! Oh he goes on for another 30 seconds at least. I agree with Senator Sanders that Israel overreacts to Palestinian attacks and that in order for there to be peace between Israel and the Palestinians, Israel must quote

05:41 Disproportionate responses I negotiated the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas member of 2012 I Did it in concert? Wow, she's saying that she negotiated peace. Yeah four years ago yeah, how'd that work out? She was still there President Abbas of the Palestinian Authority based in Ramallah I did it with the then Muslim Brotherhood president, Morsi based in Cairo. Working closely with Prime Minister Netanyahu and the Israeli cabinet. I can tell you right now because I have been there with Israeli officials going back more than 25 years that they do not seek this kind of attacks. They do not invite rockets raining down on their towns and villages. They do

06:41 believe that there should be a constant incitement by Hamas, aided and abetted by Iran against Israel. You know, this is her. But you know I was listening to Democracy Now and they had it...I clipped one thing and it was really long and I couldn't clip all of this guy but Robert Scheer was on a very famous left-wing progressive from the 60's. He used to be the editor in chief of Ramparts magazine And he pointed out that Hillary so full of crap he hates her

07:18 And he says that she's full of crap and Morsey, she cites Morsey who was the... She was secretary of state where they ousted him. Right right right! And that was Hillary and he mentioned something I didn't know this is the part should have clipped which is He went to USC Okay? Morsey Oh, the Egyptian president? Yeah. Well, the ousted... The ousted Egyptian president. Well of course! How else will you understand how to read the check if not schooled in American finance?! I have no idea. That was like well how does this news allude me? I think that's what we do on this show and dig this stuff up. We did dig it up but- I actually got a lot of news that has been elusive or underreported but i also picked up a few clips from the democratic debate

CHAPTER 03 / 43 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Reproductive Health Strategy and Donald Trump

Hillary Clinton is noted for her strategic appeal to female voters by highlighting the lack of debate questions regarding reproductive health. She uses the platform to attack Donald Trump's comments about punishing women for abortions. The segment examines how Clinton frames autonomy and Planned Parenthood as central issues for the Democratic base.

hillary clinton· reproductive health· planned parenthood· donald trump· women voters

08:09 And I think that this one minute clip here is really all Hillary Clinton needed to do to convince all women, all women that you really need to hold your nose and vote for Hillary. You know? This is the thing that she did that I think really made it work certainly for female Democratic voters and I presume there are some Republican Democratic voters that are women. But this is for the women Dems." And I want to say something about this since we're talking about the Supreme Court and what's at stake, we've had eight debates before-this is our ninth-we've not had one question about a woman's right to make her own decisions about reproductive health care. Not one question! And in the meantime, we have states governors doing everything they can

09:03 a presidential candidate by the name of Donald Trump. Women should be punished and we are never asking I love how she just said Trump says we should be punished. It's somewhat of an somewhat of an abstraction, but okay Very much so just a slight abstraction of what happened With respect to Trump it was a distraction. I don't think it's a distraction it goes to the heart of who we are as women our rights our autonomy our

09:39 ability to make our own decisions and we need to be talking about and defending Planned Parenthood from these outrageous attacks. Sanders of course agrees with all this but she somehow attacks him somehow I it's genius that Sanders is an idiot i've concluded that mainly because you have the clip on this uh... this is the This is the Sanders, this is the Vatican clip. Yeah this one-this whole episode of Sanders going to see the Pope was odd. Okay all right played on who? On Sanders? On Sanders it's obvious okay and so play this clip. Thanks overnight Sanders flew off for a visit to the Vatican Seth Doan is there

CHAPTER 04 / 43 Discussion

Bernie Sanders Vatican Visit and Pope Francis Stunt

Bernie Sanders traveled to the Vatican for a social inequality conference, a move the hosts characterize as a political stunt that backfired. While Sanders hoped for a meeting with Pope Francis, he only met with Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, leading to speculation that the trip was a distraction orchestrated to keep him out of New York. CBS News is criticized for its coverage linking the visit to the Pope's previous comments on Donald Trump's border wall.

bernie sanders· vatican· pope francis· cbs news· marcelo sanchez sorondo· new york primary

09:03 a presidential candidate by the name of Donald Trump. Women should be punished and we are never asking I love how she just said Trump says we should be punished. It's somewhat of an somewhat of an abstraction, but okay Very much so just a slight abstraction of what happened With respect to Trump it was a distraction. I don't think it's a distraction it goes to the heart of who we are as women our rights our autonomy our

09:39 ability to make our own decisions and we need to be talking about and defending Planned Parenthood from these outrageous attacks. Sanders of course agrees with all this but she somehow attacks him somehow I it's genius that Sanders is an idiot i've concluded that mainly because you have the clip on this uh... this is the This is the Sanders, this is the Vatican clip. Yeah this one-this whole episode of Sanders going to see the Pope was odd. Okay all right played on who? On Sanders? On Sanders it's obvious okay and so play this clip. Thanks overnight Sanders flew off for a visit to the Vatican Seth Doan is there

10:22 Senator Bernie Sanders arrival at the Vatican today created a media frenzy. When I received this invitation, yeah i know it's taking me away from the campaign trail for a day... It was so moving to me that it was something that I could just simply not refuse to attend In reality, Sanders just brought the campaign trail to Rome. Sanders had many of his same themes calling for a more just economy using many of the Pope's words. This is Vatican City here? Yeah this was the house of the Pope Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo invited Sanders here

11:01 An invitation which brought world attention to a usually obscure conference at an academy which advises Pope Francis on issues like social inequality. Well, by inviting Senator Sanders here's his nameplate you're really wading right into the middle of a major political moment The Pope the Pope is already figured in this campaign after Donald Trump suggested building a wall between Mexico and the US when I bet it's on a Person who only thinks about building walls. He said he's not Christian. I didn't morning Would you ever see a Donald Trump name plate here? Stop stop, sir Okay that did he ever actually meet the Pope Oh

11:43 This is the joke of it. He was never gonna meet the Pope, this is some guy you can play, play Iso-Vatican, this guy. Okay... Yeah that's important! That guy, I heard him in a minute. Mario decides to invite him to some, so obscure I can't even get the name of this thing but it's some little steering committee or something for giving advice to the Pope He fell for it. He fell for it the old the Pope wants you to go with a ring gag I think he honestly believed who's gonna meet the pope It turns out he wasn't never gonna meet the Pope So he looks like a moron To be making this stupid trip because it takes him right out of New York where he has to worry has to be yeah, of course But while they're doing their report if you live maybe back it up from where you stopped sure You'll hear this is CBS CBS is probably the most in

12:38 for Hillary. They are so in for Hillary, they slant every day just as the most slanted news organization of the three or the four or five depending on which you want to include And so they slip in this little thing about, you know these like news organizations only do this to remind people of what you're supposed to be thinking about. The Pope said that building walls means you're not a Christian This is an old story! The pope himself has said well I don't even know he was just talking in generalities kind of backed off on it but no no CBS has to bring it up again It's got nothing to do with Bernie

13:17 going to Rome. It's got nothing to do with it, but they bring it in anyway just because that's good you know we can't take a chance we gotta make sure Hillary wins this thing. An invitation which brought world attention to a usually obscure- Is it after this part? Yeah. A conference at an academy which advises Pope Francis on issues like social inequality Well by inviting Senator Sanders here is his nameplate You're really wading right into the middle of a major political moment I love that guy. That is important! The Pope has already figured in this campaign after Donald Trump suggested building a wall between Mexico and the US. A person who only thinks about building walls, he said is not Christian. Would you ever see a Donald Trump nameplate here? I don't see it. You can find maybe

14:13 These guys are douches. So who do you think set it up? Who do you think set this up? Hillary That's pretty good I like it She's been pulling some great stuff, I have to say That's a good stunt You get the guy out of New York for... It's gotta be at least 72 hours all put together Oh and it's also tiring He's gonna be dragging his ass Does Sanders have his own plane Are you kidding? He probably took a boat. I wonder... No, he doesn't have his own plane. There was a New York Daily News came out with an endorsement of Hillary. Hillary by the way, I think she's got henchmen or builders that have gone to these news organizations and made deals of some sort. We're going to give you a lot of access gonna be not gonna be like Obama

CHAPTER 05 / 43 Discussion

Media Bias and New York Daily News Endorsement

Juan Gonzalez of Democracy Now! reports on the internal dynamics of the New York Daily News editorial board meetings with the candidates. The discussion suggests that the Clinton campaign and its surrogates actively fueled social media narratives to highlight Sanders' perceived errors during these interviews. The hosts argue that news organizations are coordinating with the Clinton campaign to distort public perception.

hillary clinton· bernie sanders· new york daily news· juan gonzalez· editorial board

15:05 and these guys have all fallen into line now there was a i was listening to democracy now and that mexican uh... one gonzales who's actually a pretty decent columnist writer left progressive stuff. But he's been on the show for like, I don't know a thousand years and he still can't talk without about so he doesn't explain things well in fact he talks a little bit like Ron Paul where he starts off on an idea and then right in the middle of instead of finishing the idea jumps to something else that's kind of the way this guy is it's like what borderline stream of consciousness. But he talked about, he was in the meetings where Hillary and the rest of them came in...Hillary and Bernie came into this to um..and they're like the other guys didn't show up except Kasich I think uh...to just discuss with the candidates a topic so they could endorse one of them. And right so he's he says this interesting thing which was that

16:01 The news that came out of the meetings was all distorted. In fact, he says the editorial boards... I think it's an editorial... Play this editorial clip and I'll explain what he is trying to say An indigenous leader who was killed just weeks ago. Yes, and I did manage to get a question into Bernie Sanders as well but you know i am not a member of the editorial board i'm a senior columnist at the paper so i get invited uh sort of to watch and maybe ask a question or two when the other members of the editorial board have finished asking their questions but i do think that generally speaking

16:37 The characterization of what happened in the Sanders interview has been—and, interestingly, several members of the editorial board told me that they were surprised by the furor that developed afterwards, which was largely fueled by the Clinton campaign and their surrogates— Ah, there you go. —who began to spread words through social media and others pointing to what they believed were these huge errors of Senator Sanders. So these guys are working hard to Clinton- Yeah, they are. They really are and I don't think Bernie Sanders has no idea how to handle this He's an idiot you know just the fact that he got suckered into going the Vatican because it was the right thing to do for some committee meeting I'm sure that it was presented to him as though he...the Pope wanted him

CHAPTER 06 / 43 Discussion

Bernie Sanders Energy Policy and Climate Change Analogies

Bernie Sanders outlines his plan to phase out fracking and nuclear power, comparing the climate crisis to the mobilization required during World War II. He proposes a massive program for 10 million solar rooftops and weatherizing buildings to create jobs. The hosts mock his focus on "weatherizing" and his call to rebuild the national rail system using wind and solar power.

bernie sanders· fracking· nuclear power· climate change· solar energy· fdr

17:30 Come and so he goes yeah, otherwise you why would you do it? Do it So he thought is gonna meet the Pope was gonna be important. He's gonna get some some something needed for the campaign He got goes over there Popes not interested in seeing him isn't this is stupid thing No one's really reported how dumb I know They should though someone to do that I got I think two Bernie Sanders clips from the debate. The climate change! Well, actually he went into a whole bunch of things but just his analogies and his comparisons and the way frames things. This guy is a little odd. You said that climate change is the greatest threat to our nation's security you've called for nationwide ban on fracking. You also call for phasing out all nuclear power in the US But wouldn't those proposals drive the country back to coal and oil? And actually undermine your fight against global warming Look! Here's where we are let me reiterate

18:30 We have a global crisis. Pope Francis reminded us that we are on a suicide course. In fact, he did not remind me when I didn't see him! Our legislation understands, Errol that there will be economic dislocation. It is absolutely true. That's not good! There will be some people who lose their job and we build into our legislation an enormous amount of money to protect those workers. Now this is interesting both Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton although I haven't seen his policy document on it the idea is you know to force everyone into higher energy costs

19:11 With the wind and solar to force, although Hillary is all in on natural gas which we've known for I don't know five six years But then to help even it out We're going to give a lot of money as you just heard to coal communities. I guess that's like West Virginia or wherever else Coal is being dug out This doesn't seem like a plan that's gonna do very well Long term. Are they trying to re-educate or retrain the coal workers into... I don't know what they're trying to do, it's dumb. Hey stand over here and blow at that windmill! It is not their fault that fossil fuels are destroying our climate. It's not their fault that fossil fuels are destroying our climate? This makes no sense. I thought we were all to blame

20:11 But now there's a segment of the population who are not to blame. But we have got to stand up and say right now, as we would if were attacked by some military force... We have got to move urgency urgently and boldly what does that mean? Senator jobs are one thing but with less than 6% of all US energy coming from solar wind in geothermal And 20 percent of the U.S power coming from nuclear If you phase out all of that How do you make up that deficit? Well, you don't phase it all out tomorrow. And you certainly don't phase nuclear out tomorrow but this is what you do-do! I did like that and he said, Don't phase out nuclear energy That's good. And then what you do... And Hillary is just laughing when he says doo-doo What is she in fifth grade? But this is what you doo-doO! Doo-DOO! What you DO-DO is say we are going to have

21:03 a massive program and I had introduced legislation for 10 million solar rooftops. If we can put probably millions of people to work retrofitting, weatherizing buildings all over this country. Yeah that'd be great! Weatherizing? Weatherize! Go paint that building! There's the future of America with weatherizing using Chinese insulation Over this country, saving. Rebuilding our rail system! What? Our mass transit system Now we don't have a... Do we have a national mass transit system? No. I mean they sure want to call Amtrak He kind of makes it sound like we need to rebuild our mass transit Make the trains run on time. I don't know what he's saying. Rebuilding our rail system! Our mass transit system! If we approach this- We need more velocipedes

21:59 As if we were literally at all. I think we're going to rebuild our rail system with wind and solar. Mm-hmm. Mass transit system, if we approach this arrow As if we were literally at a war, you know? In 1941 under Franklin Delano Roosevelt We move within three years Within three years to rebuild our economy To defeat Nazism and Japanese imperialism That is exactly the kind of approach we need right now Lead the world! I thought that's what we didn't want it to be He's a maniac. Lead the world One thing-I gotta say

CHAPTER 07 / 43 Discussion

Criminal Justice Reform and Super Predator Rhetoric

Bernie Sanders criticizes the use of the term "super predator" by the Clintons in the 1990s, labeling it as racist. He argues that the American criminal justice system is a pipeline for private corporations and calls for a shift in investment from jails to education and jobs for African-American youth. The hosts debate whether the system is "broken" or functioning exactly as intended by its architects.

bernie sanders· hillary clinton· super predator· crime bill· mass incarceration

22:37 He had one point I really liked a lot. Earlier this week at the Apollo Theater in Harlem, you called out President Clinton for defending Secretary Clinton's use of the term super predator back in the 90s when she supported the crime bill. Why did you call him out? Because it was a racist term and everybody knew it was a racist term. I'll give him a point for that hold on. Point for Bernie. Very nice. Look because yes the Democratic Party is incredibly racist this is true Much of what Secretary Clinton said was right. He had a crime bill, I voted for it It had the Violence Against Women Act in it When mayor of Burlington we worked very hard to try and eliminate domestic violence This took us a good step forward

23:24 We're talking about the weapon that killed the children in San Diego. This banned assault weapons, not insignificant but where we are today is we have a broken criminal justice system. Everything's broken with these people everything's broken, broken, broken define broken. We have more people in jail than any other country on earth doesn't seem broken seems like we're doing exactly what were supposed to do with that particular system It's working fine. It was the way it was set up, create a pipeline of human bodies for the corrections corporation in America. Yeah you got no jobs for them? You're gonna riot and cause a problem put them in jail. The system is not broken its working exactly like how it was supposed to based on the setup. And in my view what Clinton put into play... Yeah well that's what he said More people in jail than any other country on earth

24:16 And in my view, what we have got to do is rethink the system from the bottom on up. And that means for a start... and we don't talk about this, the media doesn't talk about it. You've got 51% of African-American kids today who graduated high school who are unemployed or underemployed. You know what I think? Maybe we invest in jobs and education for those kids not jails and incarceration! And I'll tell you what else. What's that? put jobs down. And I'll tell you what else, well weatherizing rooftops and that is we have got and this is the difference between the secretary and myself as I understand it We have got to have the guts to rethink the so-called war on drugs yes too many lives and they're trying to cut them off lives had been destroyed

CHAPTER 08 / 43 Discussion

War on Drugs Origins and Nixon Administration Claims

A report surfaces featuring claims from former Nixon aide John Ehrlichman that the War on Drugs was designed to target black people and anti-war protesters. The hosts discuss how this historical context frames current drug policy and Hillary Clinton's cautious stance on marijuana research. They suggest the federal government has been intentionally duplicitous regarding the medicinal benefits of cannabis.

war on drugs· richard nixon· john ehrlichman· marijuana· cdc· hillary clinton

25:11 because people possess marijuana, millions over a 30-year period. And that is why I believe we should take marijuana out of the Federal Controlled Substance Act." Now I'm all for that. That's good and I like that. Now the CDC has all but confirmed it can really help combating cancer... Did you see this? Just one of many things like that. I mean, it's the...I'm reminded when they interviewed Hillary she said we need to do more. I don't know if that's about marijuana. We need to do more research she says as if there is not

25:47 No, no, she knows it was different researches. It was no it was different or is that she's she's all she goes harkens back to Nixon now I don't know if you could find this clip we never played it But he might be in searchable okay You can find me but think of you look under Nixon it was on the CD CBS morning show and they oh 5 4 3 2 1 Forbes reports on a remark by our former Nixon aide hinting that the war on drugs had a hidden purpose That president Nixon saw the drug crackdown as a way to arrest blacks and anti-war protesters Ehrlichman also claimed that the White House knew they were lying about drugs. Uh-huh? That's a clip you wanted

26:25 That's the clip I wanted. Dynamite! And that clip, it shows the duplicitousness of the government when it comes to this marijuana thing in particular and Hillary is just part of that whole thing In fact, the long clip which I have Robert Scheer, this is the end of the Democracy Now! bit where Scheer was discussing with this woman who's I can't remember her name but she's a famous head of the gay lesbian alliance. She works for the supervisors in Los Angeles. She was a head of NOW. California branch, I believe. And he goes off on her at the end and it might be worth listening to right now because he really does a good job of summarizing what's going on that nobody else seems to want to come to grips with. Sanders is kind of approaching it but... Well there's one other thing we need to take into account as I've been doing as much research as possible

CHAPTER 09 / 43 Discussion

Robert Scheer and the Democratic Establishment Conflict

Robert Scheer engages in a heated debate on Democracy Now! with a representative of the Democratic establishment. Scheer argues that "sell-out politics" have failed young people and criticizes the establishment's tolerance of systemic issues in Los Angeles. The hosts find the static nature of the progressive infighting humorous, noting the visual contrast between the speakers.

robert scheer· democracy now· hillary clinton· progressive politics· los angeles

27:26 There is no doubt that the heroin trade and now crystal meth, which is all coming from Mexico. It's propping up the 52% of unemployed youth in our country! You can't... you know it's unbelievable how much money is running through the United States as drug money I agree. I think it is propping up the youth, putting them all at risk because you know the drug dealers in the black community can be taken out any minute. I've noticed that drug dealers of any community are ready to take you out with a drop of a hat? I don't think it's just African-American community true alright so this is what's this guy's name when they do the side by side comparison that blacks are the ones who get most

28:17 Bet worse sentencing and everything. That's all been documented. Oh yeah, no that's true! That's absolutely true A white collar coke dealer working in the Bank of America building in San Francisco selling to the secretary pool rarely gets anything bad happening to him Well true So this is, what's this guy? Scheer. What is he again? Scheer is a very famous editor-writer goes back to the 60s. He has written a lot of books. He is a classic old style progressive from California. He's 80 and he doesn't put up with anything. From Robert Scheer as we wrap up...

28:58 Well, I think this is how we got into this mess. Jerry Brown when he was running against Bill Clinton said we're always faced with the by these people with the not the lesser of two evils but the evil of two lessers it's a line i'm taking from my wife's book on California that's coming out but it's a good statement they helped get us into this mess let's not miss what this election is all about on the Republican and Democratic side. On the Republican side, you have a neo-fascist person in Trump—former Trump—and something of a religious fanatic in Ted Cruz but they are addressing real discontent across the board. The economy is not working for most Americans okay? And so there's a right wing populist appeal that is wiping away the Republican Party.

29:46 On the Democratic side, much to amazement of everyone, Bernie Sanders has been able to register a populist progressive dissent. Okay? He is a uniter he doesn't bait immigrants you know he understands the need for unity in country but the fact that matter is if you go for Hillary Clinton and you go for more are the same I'll tell you my take away from this debate I want to tell you, but your winning... Get real. Your winning got us- Your winning gets us into a war in Iraq which Democrats supported with Republicans that has- Who's combating him?

30:25 That woman I described, she works for the supervisor. She's a head of the Gay Lesbian Alliance. Oh now okay! Now...I gotcha. If we do our work The fact is sell-out politics have made the situation much more treacherous and the reason so many young people Sell out politics? I like that haven't heard that one I like it. Sell out politics. And the reason so many young people are against it is because they see that it doesn't work for them and if you want to look at the record, Hillary Clinton with these problems what does she do? If you talk about deportation yes Obama's failed on immigration he has been called a

31:07 to in a more peaceful area. the

32:01 hurting. They're hurting in this country, you may not be hurting working for the county and a supervisor part of the Democratic establishment I know. I live outside- I can't really take this guy seriously either if he thinks Bernie Sanders has the answers to it and how they have to make it all work. Why is the Democratic establishment- 40 years of progressive activism Bob come on! Can't handle it is this you won't be able to understand anything in a moment She's interrupting as much as she can. It's quite, I just like... Yeah no let's go Let it go too because if you watch Democracy Now enough there are all these duds. Very static He's all worked up but he has a couple more lines in here that are worth listening to. His democratic establishment in Los Angeles by the way has racist toleration

32:55 tolerated the supervisors, a racist sheriff's police department crushed occupy that you're missing. You're missing the question ever. Tell us we need more of this. No voters are rejecting more of the same. That's what they're going to represent more. We're gonna leave it there But clearly there is a lot to talk about in these coming weeks and months. So she goes off, I mean the whole thing... That's pretty funny. And he goes off on this woman who just the biggest Hillary supporter Well if we're going if we're going to do that and she says by the okay but before that you have to visualize this woman She was all this background because I describe her You know she said head of the gay list me they always she looks like

CHAPTER 10 / 43 Discussion

Emily's List and the Corporate Whores Controversy

Dr. Paul Song, husband of Lisa Ling, sparked controversy by using the term "corporate Democratic whores" at a Bernie Sanders rally. Stephanie Schriock of Emily's List appears on CNN to condemn the language, while the hosts mock the network's refusal to say the word "whore" on air. The segment explores the use of surrogates by both campaigns to attack the opposition's qualifications and character.

emily's list· paul song· lisa ling· bernie sanders· hillary clinton· cnn

33:45 She's wearing a red dress and she looks like a very reticent schoolmarm of an old style. She just doesn't look like her what her bio is at all. She kind of looks more like a conservative mom it sounds like yeah, she looks very like a conservative mom from the 50s Well if we're going to talk about surrogates or people who are out there talking bullcrap I have a couple of interesting ones this is MSNBC I think that was Angela Andrea Mitchell not sure but it was the CEO of Emily's List I've never seen her I get her emails all the time

34:27 about how we have to chip in for Hillary. So something interesting happened in New York City before Bernie Sanders spoke, I think it was one of the parks in the city... big crowd he had! Big crowd but at first there was some other guy who stood up and I think his name is mentioned this report and he said and he gave out a little quote which of course was not intended to necessarily implicate Hillary Clinton, but more stuff that like we talk about here on the show all So it was the corporate democratic whores comment that... Now of course, you know. Actually this maybe it's CNN This reporter is asking surprisingly good questions Is countering this woman from Emily's List in a pretty decent way about this

35:42 And I like the comment about it. It's funny, that is something we would say. Corporate whores, prostitutes... Yeah they're all in the what do we call it? Sellout politicians! That's Dr Paul Song speaking there last night he's a physician and healthcare activist He is the husband of CNN host Lisa Ling Woahhh that's coincidental Little Lisa Ling isn't she the one who got arrested I can't remember, but I do recall. No that was Lulu Ling. Lisa Ling is... Now I don't remember. Oh it's Ling-Ling? Ling-Ling He made the comment just before Bernie Sanders addressed a crowd huge crowd of about 27 thousand supporters in New York City's Washington Square Park Song later apologized saying that he was referring to some members of Congress not Hillary Clinton Yeah sounds right to me But it's an opportunity to go and say hey Bernie Sanders and assholes bring on the show Stephanie Shriek

36:37 Maryak is the president of Emily's List. She joins us now, Stephanie nice to see you. In more of his apology Dr Song said he was not talking about Hillary Clinton in fact his wife Lisa Ling defended him on Facebook and here is what she posted she says I know for certain that he would never refer to any woman as a blank She can't even say the word whore. You can't say whore? You can't say whore apparently, what is this? On CNN you can't say whore. No and the words on the screen it's on the caption whore but I have to say blank this whole report is crazy that way. The W word. Huh? The W word! Oh yeah its the W word and most people most Americans will go what doesn't that start with a H

37:21 I know for certain that he would never refer to any woman as a blank. It was a very poor choice of words and Paul is extremely regretful for using it most importantly, he is mortified that such a word is being associated with Hillary, with Secretary Clinton do you think his remarks I mean, they're really disappointing. The kind of language that we're hearing is just not there's no place for that here in the Democratic Party and politics and I am glad to see Senator Sanders this morning disavowing these but what we're beginning to see regularly is a pattern by Senator Sanders and his campaign

37:58 and qualifications or her ambition and a lot of the things that are being talked about. You know, some of it and maybe not last night but some of its really been out of the Republican playbook. Oh thank goodness! Out of the Republican playbook? Bernie's now a socialist Republican. And it seems like Senator Sanders in his campaign is sort of cashing-in on decades of attacks of Hillary. Let's focus back on issues where we can do this. Stephanie Again, to be fair here though it's not like the Clinton campaign is entirely immune from surrogates saying something that you maybe wish they hadn't. You remember Bill Clinton's confrontation with Black Lives Matters protesters that happened just a few days ago? You remember Madeline Albright saying there is special place in hell for women who don't support other women? There was Gloria Steinem comment about Bernie Sanders supporters who are female so I

38:58 I think it happens on, wouldn't you say it happens on both sides? But again we've like I said that the senator addressed this morning. I wish he would have addressed at last night. I'm sure they were talking about it was so shocking to hear. Shocking! It was shocking to hear what? The truth?! It was shocking to hear the truth. She addressed it 3 o'clock and I wish she would address it 230. She says it's so shocking to hear The words, corporate democratic whore. I think she's shocked to hear the truth! The true democratic whore. Before we get off to debate, so do want to play the one rundown clip which is the one on the CBS show, CBS Debate Rundown because again, I'm trying to track these networks and who supporting whom? We know CBS is all in for Hillary as reflected in this report but

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Network News Graphics and Media Slant

The hosts deconstruct the visual presentation of candidates on major networks like CBS and ABC. They observe a pattern where Hillary Clinton is shown in flattering, aspirational poses while Bernie Sanders is depicted with grumpy or sneering expressions. This visual framing is presented as evidence of a coordinated effort by the networks to favor the Clinton campaign.

cbs news· abc news· hillary clinton· bernie sanders· media bias

39:48 ABC, I've concluded now is all in for Hillary and the reason i say that it's because the graphics they show on CBS does the same thing. They have their debate when they run a debate they have a graphic behind their spokes hole And they have a picture of, very flattering picture of Hillary smiling and looking up at about 45 degree angle. At some you know like the second...at the balcony Sanders is got a sneer, grumpy looking he looks like an old fart both networks I haven't yet to get on NBC next

40:27 Both networks run this graphic. They're not exactly the same, but they have the same kinds of images. Sanders looking like an old fart a grumpy old man and Hillary beaming. Clinton was confident enough about her New York lead to take a gamble today jetting off to LA for fundraisers after a quick game of dominoes in East Harlem It was not fun and games in Brooklyn last night. But you didn't answer the question. I did! Where Sanders said those fundraisers cloud her judgment. Do we really feel confident?

41:05 about a candidate saying that she's gonna bring change in America when she is so dependent by big money interests. I don't think so! This is a phony attack, I stood up against the behaviors of the banks when I was a senator. I called them out on their mortgage behavior. Secretary Clinton called them out. They must be really crushed by this His relentless focus on this issue has gotten traction. In the latest national CBS News poll, eight in ten Democrats say special interests have at least some influence on Clinton but in New York Wall Street ties are not as big of a liability and Democrats still see her as far more likely to get things done I don't take a backseat to your legislation that you've introduced that you haven't been able to get passed

41:57 Sanders has been pushing Clinton to release transcripts of her Wall Street speeches, but she noted last night that he still hadn't released his tax returns. So today Scott he released his 2014 returns and says the 2015 ones will follow soon. Okay couple things One this Sanders with this taxes that stinks Something smells bad and he promised 2015 but he gave 2014. And he says, oh well Jane does our taxes on TurboTax or whatever. That stinks! I'm telling you there's something about that that stinks. It could have been done overnight? Yeah if you use TurboTax you open the program you say open up the file from 2013-2012 print a copy it is not hard

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Candidate Tax Returns and Wall Street Transcripts

Bernie Sanders faces scrutiny for releasing his 2014 tax returns instead of the 2015 documents, claiming his wife uses TurboTax. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton continues to resist calls to release transcripts of her high-paid Wall Street speeches. The hosts speculate that the "speeches" may have actually been private meetings to collect checks rather than formal addresses.

bernie sanders· hillary clinton· tax returns· wall street· turbotax· bill clinton

41:05 about a candidate saying that she's gonna bring change in America when she is so dependent by big money interests. I don't think so! This is a phony attack, I stood up against the behaviors of the banks when I was a senator. I called them out on their mortgage behavior. Secretary Clinton called them out. They must be really crushed by this His relentless focus on this issue has gotten traction. In the latest national CBS News poll, eight in ten Democrats say special interests have at least some influence on Clinton but in New York Wall Street ties are not as big of a liability and Democrats still see her as far more likely to get things done I don't take a backseat to your legislation that you've introduced that you haven't been able to get passed

41:57 Sanders has been pushing Clinton to release transcripts of her Wall Street speeches, but she noted last night that he still hadn't released his tax returns. So today Scott he released his 2014 returns and says the 2015 ones will follow soon. Okay couple things One this Sanders with this taxes that stinks Something smells bad and he promised 2015 but he gave 2014. And he says, oh well Jane does our taxes on TurboTax or whatever. That stinks! I'm telling you there's something about that that stinks. It could have been done overnight? Yeah if you use TurboTax you open the program you say open up the file from 2013-2012 print a copy it is not hard

42:49 Yeah, I think you're right. There's something in there that is... it's a minor thing. It's minor. Not that she can go on to distract everyone from the fact she's ever going to release those transcripts. And I'll repeat, no and I'll repeat, I don't think there are any transcripts! That's the problem These were just, I think straight out bribes. Or maybe she went and talked for 20 minutes or something like that? I don't think there are transcripts. There's no reason not to do that and try and switch the conversation over to taxes." It's possible there was a meeting, it wasn't a speech. Yeah! It was a meeting to pick up that big check is what it was? Yes, it was a meeting to pick up the big check. There's no... she never gave a speech. Well maybe she gave one but certainly I don't think she has seven or eight. Is that the same speech? She made 11 million dollars in speeches last year. Alright so that's 20 speeches at least

43:45 Or more. More, yeah. Or less or none! You know is she giving the same speech? Is he giving the same speech to every bank that she talks to? She would be giving the same speech yes you get one good speech Well Bill is now uh more and more of a liability here's a very short soundbite He was outside maybe it was in Harlem I don't know I think there's an office there And it's a little tough, but he is talking about Hillary's opponent Bernie Sanders and his solution to Wall Street which Bill Clinton characterizes a little differently. I think it's fine that all these young students have been so enthusiastic for her opponent and sound so good just shoot every third person on Wall Street and everything will be fine

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Nancy Pelosi and Economic Metrics

Nancy Pelosi defends the Obama administration's record by citing specific economic metrics, including a 70% lower deficit and halved unemployment. The hosts criticize her reliance on curated data, arguing that the "metrics" do not reflect the reality experienced by ordinary citizens. They also mock her statement that "being a woman is no longer a pre-existing medical condition."

nancy pelosi· barack obama· unemployment· deficit· healthcare· metrics

44:26 Just shoot every third person on Wall Street. That is the Bill Clinton extrapolation of what Bernie Sanders is saying. I like it, I like it, I like it! A quick entremont from Nancy Pelosi who...I don't know maybe she's because we're getting closer to the convention? She's in the news and she's all over and you know She's an idiot. Really no comparison to Bernie Sanders, but I like what she does here because she is going to talk about how- what a fantastic job President Obama did with pretty much everything during his eight years

45:03 But she slips in a little something here that I think makes her numbers and her assessment of the situation actually true, even though it's not the reality. Listen... The difference as to when President Obama took office and now in terms of so many of the metrics whether it's this... Now did you hear that? So many of them metrics Yes, so she's not talking about how good things are No, she's just talking about the metrics. Which okay if you know we know metrics you make metrics so that they're favorable for you let's listen to some of these metrics. Metrics whether it's the well we've been through it

45:45 The deficit is 70 percent lower. The unemployment is half of what it was, the stock market's 10,000 points—more than 10,000 points ahead. The auto industry is thriving when it was on its heels. At that time when he took office, 20 million people now have health insurance who didn't. And those many who had health insurance have it in a better way no pre-existing conditions and no lifetime limits and being a woman is no longer a pre existing medical condition

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Ted Cruz Manhattan Speech Failure

Ted Cruz struggled during a speech at a Republican gala in Manhattan, where his typical stump speech and jokes failed to resonate with the New York audience. The hosts discuss the difficulty of speaking to a distracted crowd during a meal and contrast Cruz's performance with Donald Trump's "home game" advantage in the state.

ted cruz· donald trump· manhattan· republican dinner· new york values

46:22 Being a woman? Yeah, being a woman is no longer a pre-existing medical condition. That was the talking point from couple years back that you just brought that one back. Boy I forgot that one! Hey the metrics say unemployment is down by half sure have you been outside Ms Pelosi? Have you talked to anybody on this... Go to the gas station and see what colorful people you will meet there. Colorful people I tell ya it's just fabulous douche It's interesting. That was a good clip We have the the non we have Cruz Trump and KC world are all in New York getting ready for the big Tuesday night primary And so each of them also spoke at the New York Republican or New York conservatives dinner, I'm not quite sure what it was home game for Trump very easy Cruz bombed and Everybody is laughing about it

47:19 You know how Cruz, Cruz has his jokes but he and he's not great with his time. He is no Rubio. He certainly is no Rubio And and what happens when you when you deliver a line, and certainly if it's your opening line You fail. It's gonna be very the worst thing that can happen to you public speakers know this you might as well go home You do a joke at the beginning? And you bomb you can do some one of the things I like to do is there's some you can do light-hearted Kind of chat with the audience before you actually begin this speech right oh

47:55 And you can kind of test the audience and you could throw some material in there. Usually what you do there is, like a local joke. Yeah always local. Local joke. The sheriff's a fat guy isn't he? Always works well! The sheriff's a fat guy... Did you try that in Alabama? That's where it'll go over well. Tough crowd. It's crickets for Ted Cruz in Manhattan but Donald Trump is speaking their language at the big party dinner I had a terrible night at the Republican black tie gala here for the state party. What happened when Ted Cruz tried to speak to his own, well, his own Republicans but they're not really his? They're New York State Republicans and I guess they have New York values.

48:38 beds on the ground there called it a dead room. You saw Ted Cruz delivering his usual stump speech with a few changes, but his typical applause lines fell flat. His laugh lines got no laughter people were distracted A lot of folks simply were not paying attention. A couple even stood up and left. Oh I hate that oh man. And speaking or doing something while people are eating is the worst gig in the world And I've done it a lot. It's horrible! They have to either clear the plates, or...I mean you have to have the...it has to be...no, you can't do it while they're eating because there is too much clinking and there are waiters roaming around and people asking questions. Yeah, yeah, it always happens. It's impossible! You should never do a speech while they're eating.

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Ben Carson on Political Parties and Jim Crow

Ben Carson defends Donald Trump's complaints about the Republican delegate system, comparing arbitrary party rules to the Jim Crow era. He argues that political parties are private clubs that disenfranchise voters through complex regulations. The hosts analyze the RNC's response, led by Reince Priebus, which maintains that the rules were clearly established and available to all candidates.

ben carson· rnc· donald trump· delegate system· jim crow· reince priebus

49:24 Ben Carson, of course surrogate for Donald Trump went on Andrea Mitchell's show on MSNBC. And this is kind of an important topic clip etc., I think what we'll find at the end of this election cycle is thanks to the internet mainly just because of communication in general Some portions of the American population are kind of slowly starting to realize that this, you know what's hammered into our heads as kids. We have a two-party system which is not true but these groups known as political parties that they are not actually a part of our election process

50:11 And it's probably even more confusing because people are, well yeah I voted. This is real voting how come what's going on? It's made to look like it's all official and a part of the two-party election system in the United States but it's just a show. It's also kind of the same people operating under you know two different flags I think people might start to understand how that works. And Carson is a little bit ahead of himself, but he's trying to open up that oh gosh conversation. Well where do you come down on Donald Trump's complaints about Colorado Louisiana? How the delegate process is working out Ted Cruz is working the delegate system because what the RNC is saying today is this is the deal these are the rules they've been the rules

50:58 and every candidate was informed of those rules. I'm not so sure it's about Donald Trump or Reince Priebus, it's really about the American people and whether or not they're being disenfranchised by a bunch of people who sit around and create arbitrary rules that tend to benefit them. This happens on both sides and I think it's one of the things that the American people are tired of, i think thats why we're seeing people like Trump and Bernie Sanders doing so well because people are tired of the status quo this is how its supposed to be with a few people sitting there making those decisions

51:34 The Republican Party, as is the Democratic Party is a private organization and so what their rules are set by them. Sean Spicer the communications director... She can barely even say it she can barely even say it's not really an official election just the club this like a soccer club an athletic club or chess clubs you can't has problems saying it so she's just like of course she does one of the roadblocks but it's like a club what their rules are set by them Sean Spicer the communications director for the RNC wrote in this memo

52:10 Rules surrounding the delegate selection have been clearly laid out in every state and territory. And while each state is different, each process is easy to understand for those willing to learn it." Take note Donald Trump is the P.S., unspoken. During Jim Crow era those were the rules too. They were written everybody knew about them didn't make them right. I gotta say you gotta love the black man who plays that card. You go Ben Carson! That was great No one else can say this. No one else! They didn't bring Jim Crow to your house. Hey, everyone thought that was cool and I'm like well good on you Ben. They were written everybody knew about them didn't make them right but i'm not saying this is the same uh but you know I think you get the point just because rules are there just because they're written by somebody doesn't mean that they're right doesn't mean that you can't re-review the system You know there are a lot of things we need to look at

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Electoral College and David Brooks Elitism

The hosts discuss the purpose of the Electoral College as a mechanism for elites to prevent "crazy" candidates from taking power. They critique David Brooks' commentary on PBS, where he labeled bankruptcy laws "amoral" to attack Trump. The segment argues that the party structure is intentionally designed to provide stability and prevent the rise of "momentary fads" or demagogues.

electoral college· david brooks· donald trump· pbs newshour· bankruptcy laws

53:04 from a historical perspective, why do we need the Electoral College anymore? Stop and ask yourself why was that put in place and do those same circumstances still apply. Actually they do not! We need to start looking at a lot of different things Yeah, and what's interesting is the electoral college. The way I think...I understand it as we've discussed on this program in years past the entire point of there being an electoral college is for the elites to stop crazy people like Sanders and Trump from actually getting elected! That's the whole point of it isn't? In fact yes it is but that's one of the points of it It's also to kind of normalize them so you have

53:47 unbalanced vote blocks in different states. It just kind of normalizes it, but I think that is the point. That was actually brought up in almost a sick way by David Brooks who of course is a so-called Republican. He represents the Republican Party on the NewsHour and PBS, but he is a Trump hater to an extreme! And listen to this little spiel by him where he goes on about It's amoral but good and these rules and regulations. And he actually comes out and says the reason for these things, and that would include the Colorado situation is to keep Trump from getting any... Prevent Trump is the words he uses. So this is it's rigged? It's crooked. Yeah well as others have pointed out here as a businessman who was perfectly willing to use the amoral bankruptcy laws to his own advantage. What's the difference between amoral and immoral

54:48 Amoral means without morals. Immoral means against the morality that you're... In other words, amoral means there's no morals. There are no morals to be immoral in. That's worse than immoral! Ike probably is. It's rigged, it's crooked. Rigged! Well as others have pointed out he was a businessman who was perfectly willing to use the amoral bankruptcy laws to his own advantage and now he's just getting outfoxed. What do you mean the amoral bankruptcy laws? What is he talking about? The bankruptcy laws are not amoral. They're actually meant... They're totally moral. Yeah they're meant to keep jobs, they're meant to not have companies fall over so we can protect pieces of the economy

55:30 Yeah, he's foolish crap. This is this guy is getting on my nerves yeah I hear you and he was perfectly willing to use the amoral bankruptcy laws to his own advantage And now he's just getting outfoxed in the amoral delegate for all laws. I think they're a moral well They're just did the laws are the way they are good point from Blitzed in chat room bankruptcy prevents debtors prison it actually is highly moral if you think about it Huh? Nothing.

56:25 Ryan said it's every big organization whether it's General Motors or the Boy Scouts they have an organizational structure in which they make decisions and the people are more invested in their organization, are more senior in their organization have more power than people who do not. And that is for a very good reason because you want a party to have consistency over time You wanted to have a structure where your people have to compromise with each other Series of stability so you don't get carried away by momentary fads and crazy demagogues So by some logic the structure exists to prevent Donald Trump and people like Donald Trump who are up the moment somebody hmm Yeah, yeah. It's exactly right it exists to stop You know Donald Trump people from taking over their club now there would be other Approach to this that was actually interesting even though it just showed that Brooks is more of a douche than I thought but

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Major Garrett and CBS Trump Coverage Deconstruction

A CBS News report by Major Garrett is analyzed for its perceived bias against Donald Trump. The hosts point out how the reporting uses "leading the witness" techniques to frame Trump's arguments as phony. They contrast this with Ross Perot's historical use of infomercials and charts to explain complex political issues directly to the public without media filtering.

major garrett· cbs news· donald trump· reince priebus· ross perot· propaganda

57:17 This is the CBS, this clip is called CBS Flawed Trump. I want to deconstruct this because this is structured in such a way again to make Trump just brainwash the public in very subtle ways. I think there's really a dynamite piece for that The Republican Party is not scheming against Donald Trump. That assertion came late today from the chairman of the party in an interview with Major Garrett. Trump, the frontrunner for the nomination claims that the GOP is plotting to trip him at the finish line We have a rigged system! The Republican system is rigged where the bosses pick the delegates Now why would he do this?

57:59 I mean, do you think this has been his tactic all along? He knew this was going to happen. He was ready for this and what exactly is the strategy just by yelling at him?" I think it's a vote-getting trick because he's got a disillusioned group of people voting for him already and now they're all...I think it's just a methodology for getting votes in. And I don't think he's doing it as much as the media is making it sound like They're the ones that are exaggerating this. I've seen various clips where they've taken it from two or three speeches and makes it sound like a little raving lunatic, and if you listen to the very beginning... play that very beginning again This is not the way you do a setup. What I mean here is if you want to make a point that you're saying something

58:43 Like, Donald Trump is an idiot. And that's what so-and-so says. You know what I mean? It should be so and so... Now if you did it right as a reporter, you'd go, So-and-so says that Donald Trump is an idiot! Then you know what's going on. But if you start off with Donald Trump is an idiot, and that's like your assertion it's like your assertions It's like what you're... That's what gets pounded into the human brain And then you mention it was said by someone else when in fact it was said by you! This I thought was a chicken shit report in every way of course Major Garrett and I don't really blame the guy reporters like to do this No this why this is what you do This is their job

59:23 And he has a grudge against Trump because as you recall, we've mentioned on the show before and we played the clip in the very early days of the campaign. Before the first way before their first primary Trump insulted Garrett on the air and they ran it. I mean CBS ran it so everyone you would know from now on out that means war, and he's called him a jerk or they said something like if you knew what you were doing with your job is some one of his early insults where just going off on everybody by dead like Katie Terry did that He did that with her too, he went off on her. You're no good you don't even know how to do an interview and then they ran it! They run these things which I don't know why they do that but they did it just to make a point that he's in a hole so Garris got together man you can just hear it in this report the snide commentary... Well ya'know these guys and gals think its their job to save the country

1:00:23 They do and you said voting for Hillary is the way to save the country apparently. Well hold your nose and vote for Hillary That's how you save the country The Republican Party is not scheming against Donald Trump that assertion came late today from the chairman of the party in an interview with Major Garrett Trump, the frontrunner for the nomination claims that the GOP is plotting to trip him at the finish line We have a rigged system. The Republican system is rigged, where the bosses pick the delegates and the people never got to vote Donald Trump continued his week-long assault on the Republican Party nominating process In a Wall Street Journal op ed Trump wrote

1:01:04 I for one am not interested in defending a system that for decades has served the interest of political parties at the expense of the people. Republican Party Chairman Reince Priebus fired back. All of the candidates use the same rules in order to compete in each of the states Are you saying that Trump is essentially advancing a phony argument? Leading the witness. We like doing that, it's how we're trained. He never said that! No, this is great, come on he's doing his job. Trump is essentially advancing a phony argument Just because someone doesn't like the kind of rules in particular states, it doesn't necessarily mean that the rules are rigged. It just means they wish that the delegates were awarded a different way Ted Cruz has been following those rules in an effort to win enough delegates to deny Trump the nomination before this summer's convention Donald is unhappy with how they voted

1:02:00 He's entitled to be unhappy. We're focused on earning votes from the people." But Trump maintains a huge lead in New York and today, The New York Post endorsed the frontrunner ahead of Tuesdays primary as a candidate quote inspiring people who'd given up on ever again having a candidate who would fight for them. You know what? Why doesn't Trump just say He's kind of muddling the waters. And maybe, well I'm pretty sure he's doing it on purpose. Well you know the process is rigged and this is kind of what the whole thing is but... It would be so much better for everyone if..and he can say it like this is not part of your official American political process This is not how we choose, you don't have to do this to choose presidents! Its not in the Constitution this way

1:02:50 He could just explain that and say this is just... he could use the Boy Scouts, the clubs, the chess clubs. That's what I liked about Perot when he was running. He would actually buy airtime and i've always wondered why people don't do this more often. He would buy airtime and put himself on the air with a bunch of flash cards Oh God, I remember that. Yeah! And he put the card up and said here's what they're telling you and here is what it was really going on and he'd show on a graph or something... ...and he explained it. It was absolutely fascinating. Because it was simplified but it was graphic. It wasn't some guy waving his arms at him. And it worked like a champ! That's why he got the horse head in his bed

1:03:37 You really you're doing too well. No one has done that they don't really I mean just outside of Glenn Beck who has his blackboard and he just pretty much puts George Soros's name on there and it puts a bunch of arrows pointing toward him He did it, that's his idea bad guy over the explanation but Yeah, he can't do it. Nobody can... These guys are all... Well he could! He's the only guy who could just do that. Hey this is just at the club. It's not part of your political process but the same people are running the other ones so I'm just saying something like that. It is? I have one piece of underreported news. That was a news conference from The State's Attorney This is about Trump's campaign manager

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Corey Lewandowski Battery Case Dismissal

The State's Attorney in Florida announced that it will not file charges against Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski for the alleged battery of reporter Michelle Fields. The investigation concluded that while physical contact occurred, Lewandowski had a reasonable hypothesis of innocence based on Secret Service protocols regarding the "protective bubble." The hosts note that the reporter touched Trump first, complicating the assault claims.

corey lewandowski· michelle fields· donald trump· secret service· florida

1:04:19 Corey Lewandowski, I think is his name and the The little girl who got so beaten out ski. Yeah guy yeah and and the reporter from Breitbart who They all quit in a huff. Yeah, well they quit in the huff and there was you know there were charges and you're suing you etc etc so the state's attorney came out it was probably it was 30 minute press conference with all the you know talking about the video the surveillance videos so American And this guy loved it of course but I just pulled the relevant 37 second quote out Law enforcement arrests are based upon probable cause State prosecution however relies upon a good faith basis

1:05:00 that sufficient evidence exists to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt. This includes consideration of any apparent defenses Although the facts support the allegation that Mr. Lewandowski did grab Ms Fields arm against her will, Mr. Lewandowski has a reasonable hypothesis of innocence there is insufficient evidence to rebut these defenses therefore although probable cause exists The state will no file this case No file they will not even take it to court And the reason why, which he explains and if you want to it's in the show notes 817.noagendanotes.com is because she was asked kindly by the Secret Service to get out of the way she circled around came back she penetrated the bubble as they call it... The bubble! The bubble and it is not uncommon and it is accepted by the Secret Service for inner circle operatives of the protected politician to participate in crowd control

1:05:59 Yes, and then the kicker was that a guy mentioned this. She touched him first she touched him Yeah, who's Trump? Oh man when I was six years old my parents did this with me and my sisters They talked about physical contact no physical contact And they would always be Adam No physical contact and that's when I got the lecture on assault and battery and what assault is and wood battery and assault and Battery Six years old yeah, it's the same thing yeah well apparently this girl Never got the lecture. I don't know The whole thing was Trump trumped up yeah, but of course whenever there's a correction you don't see it III Do you see this news? This ran on democracy now so I did see it okay all right So that you and five other people just me and five other people how many people watch that show well because you do that I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you Johnson

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No Agenda Producer Donations and Knighting

The hosts acknowledge financial support from their "producers," including a significant donation from Stone Harriman in Ontario. They read messages from various donors requesting "karma" for birthdays, new jobs, and family milestones. The segment includes the playing of requested jingles and a reminder of the show's value-for-value model, which sustains the program without traditional advertising.

donation· producer· karma· jingles· knighting· federal reserve

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1:16:57 I'm just trying to think what was the...I don't know what it was. The Armageddon? What scream is she looking for, I'm not sure But there was one where you had a guy being thrown off of cliff and it's like he's falling away but you can just play the horrible scream which is good enough Yeah okay And what else did she want? She wanted Two To The Head New World Order New World Order two-to-the head Scream Is that it? No, the scream before the two to the head You've got karma. All right, I like that. Whoo kind of fit. That concludes our donation segment and we want to remind people we do a show coming up on Thursday at Dvorak.org slash NA is a great place to go We are pushing the $4 a week donation subscription for 75 cents an hour. I hadn't heard that one. I like it

1:18:02 It's been around. It used to be a dollar an hour, but then we stretched the show and made it longer so I'm did recalculate it wasn't $1 an hour was 75 cents cheaper getting they're getting bonus But it's $5 Canadian pretty much what you're saying. That's probably 10 bucks Canadian Well, thank you very much to our executive producers and our associate executive producers for supporting the program financially It is how we continue to be able to provide you this analysis And thanks everyone of course for helping out in other ways and will thank everybody under fifty dollars and above At the break later on and remember as John said another show coming up on Thursday vorac org Slash n a so I've already played this into different groups whoops

1:18:43 Whoops, there we go. We've already played this in two different parts now all together hey propagator formula is this we go out? We hit people in the mouth That'll be show 818 which is kind of a little interesting or interesting little ditty yeah Hey I found something which I think warrants our deconstruction here. It was one of those things where the no agenda Spidey sense, ahem, was tingling in the back of my head I didn't quite understand what uh... What was going on? You okay?

CHAPTER 20 / 43 Discussion

Zika Virus Funding and Ebola Fund Diversion

The White House, via Josh Earnest, is pressuring Congress for $1.9 billion to combat the Zika virus, despite a lack of domestic cases. The hosts deconstruct the request, discovering that the administration is attempting to divert unused funds from the Ebola rescue fund. They highlight the sense of "manufactured urgency" used by politicians like Nancy Pelosi to bypass the standard budget process.

zika virus· ebola· josh earnest· nancy pelosi· congress· funding

1:18:02 It's been around. It used to be a dollar an hour, but then we stretched the show and made it longer so I'm did recalculate it wasn't $1 an hour was 75 cents cheaper getting they're getting bonus But it's $5 Canadian pretty much what you're saying. That's probably 10 bucks Canadian Well, thank you very much to our executive producers and our associate executive producers for supporting the program financially It is how we continue to be able to provide you this analysis And thanks everyone of course for helping out in other ways and will thank everybody under fifty dollars and above At the break later on and remember as John said another show coming up on Thursday vorac org Slash n a so I've already played this into different groups whoops

1:18:43 Whoops, there we go. We've already played this in two different parts now all together hey propagator formula is this we go out? We hit people in the mouth That'll be show 818 which is kind of a little interesting or interesting little ditty yeah Hey I found something which I think warrants our deconstruction here. It was one of those things where the no agenda Spidey sense, ahem, was tingling in the back of my head I didn't quite understand what uh... What was going on? You okay?

1:19:35 Yeah, I'm fine. Are you okay? No, I'm never okay It started actually when i was watching the daily press briefing at the white house spokeshold Josh Earnest received a question about the Zika bill Which I want to discuss right now Darling, I hate to disappoint members of congress but The passage that bill that you described is positive But rather meager accomplishment We were talking about it earlier. In some ways, it's akin to passing out umbrellas in the advance of a potential hurricane. So an umbrella might come in handy but it's going to be insufficient to ensure that communities all across the country are protected from a potentially significant

1:20:22 impact. And the reason, so I'm like why is all this attention being spent on this? This is regarding Senate Bill 2512 which has now been passed and has been handed over to the president. It actually have the text here it's easy to read. Unless there was a House bill she won't cover it Yeah well we already went through the house obviously The short title is Adding Zika Virus To The FDA Priority Review Voucher Program Act

1:21:05 That's all that it is. It just designates subparagraph R of that act and inserts Zika virus disease, which makes it eligible for fast-track financing for vaccines. But this is of course not at all what the White House wanted. We're not quite sure what's going on. Let's listen to more Josh Earnest before we start to get some clarity. That's what we're focused on Darlene, you may be familiar with the expression of being a day late and dollar short. In this case Congress is two months late and 1.9 billion dollars short. Alright. Let me give us quick what I think right away? Yeah! They put for one thing there has not been a case of Zika in the United States

1:21:51 Inherent to the United States. Right? In other words, nobody's got Zika from while being in the United States under any circumstances. And there is also no conclusive evidence that Zika creates microcephaly Well... There has been a lot of discussion indicating it and there's some sort of faux proof. I haven't seen any real proof. Well, but maybe i can just make this observation when he says this is crap we really were there late we need 1.9 billion dollars yeah as soon as he says that i'm thinking what scam is going on? And bingo boom shakalaka! That was exactly what...I'm like What scam is going on?! So let me take you down the rabbit hole being a day late in dollar short

1:22:39 In this case, Congress is two months late and $1.9 billion short in providing the assistance that our public health professionals say that they need to make sure that they respond appropriately to this situation. The bill that Congress passed yesterday doesn't include any funding. It certainly doesn't – so it's not going to do anything to help local communities across the country that carry this virus. But, okay. He's carrying the virus? I don't know local communities everywhere have this problem what he is doing is he covering by saying this so important children are going to die people are going to die we have to get the money 1.9 billion Or fight the mosquitoes that carry this virus Oh no actually it was an important point he says fight the mosquitos That will come back at some point in our life not sure where that coming from Eat this virus

1:23:33 or fight the mosquitoes that carry this virus. So we're not, are we gonna... Are we going to create a vaccine? Because that's what the bill did! Are we gonna create a vaccine or do we want to fight the mosquitoes?! Is it a war on mosquitoes?? This is confusing to me. Or fight the mosquitoes that carry this virus It's not going to expand access to diagnostic tests That would allow people to more easily get tested and get a prompt result from that test about whether or not they have the Zika virus. All of these are steps that are critical to ensuring that we're protecting the pregnant women and their newborn children from a virus that we know has a potentially devastating impact, so no I'm not prepared to give Congress credit for that legislation it is a positive step but is a far cry

1:24:22 from what our public health experts tell us is necessary. Okay, so I went on a hunt for seeing what the public experts were telling us was necessary to combat the Zika virus... I'm sorry? Public health experts Yeah, then what did I say? You said public experts Is there a difference Yeah. Public health experts, okay? And I came across a report from CBS and that really got me on my way. Mr Speaker do you believe the White House when it says it needs the full 1.9 billion dollars to fight Zika over and beyond what has already been allegedly said by Ebola

1:24:59 The money's in the pipeline, our appropriators... Ah! Did you hear it? Did you hear it?! This is where I figured it out. He dropped a word Ebola. Yes he did listen again Full 1.9 billion dollars to fight Zika over and beyond what has already been allegedly to fight Ebola The money's in the pipeline Our appropriators are going to address this issue If the need arises our appropriators will address it But the money will be there eventually Congressman Tom Cole chairs an appropriations subcommittee considering the administration's request. Who decides whether it is truly needed? Do you believe in the NIH, do you believe in CDC? Actually we do believe the NIH and we do believe the CDC but we have to use resources that we have wisely. We need money now. Democrats in the White House favor an emergency request which doesn't need to be funded at the expense of other programs

1:25:45 House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi. The budget process takes a long time, it would be practically nine months before we could ever get any... So what you're hearing here is the sense of urgency. The urgency is that we can't wait nine months! We've got to get this money and people are dying! Children have little heads! Of other programs. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi. time would be practically nine months before we could ever get any other money and there's no guarantee that you have it at the end of the year. At the end of the day, that money will be there or it won't be there? I don't know. I honestly don't know and that is what has us very concerned

CHAPTER 21 / 43 Discussion

UN Ebola Pledges and NGO Money Laundering

An analysis of United Nations data reveals that many countries and organizations, including Google and the Gates Foundation, have not fulfilled their financial pledges for Ebola relief. The hosts argue that the $1.9 billion Zika request is a cover to collect these arrears. They trace the flow of money to various NGOs and government departments, such as the US Department of Defense and the CDC, labeling the system a form of money laundering.

united nations· ebola· zika· bill & melinda gates foundation· google· ngo

1:26:26 So now this $1.9 billion and the slight mention of Ebola brought me into, or really down into the rabbit hole The president sent out an executive order and a funding request letter actually to Congress And all this is in the show notes paraphrasing He has already transferred $500 million that was in the Ebola rescue fund over to the Zika rescue fund. And what he is asking for is for the remaining Ebola rescue fund... ...to be transferred to these Zika rescue funds, so two things one that clearly means it Ebola is licked like good deal. Two this is a lot of money for something that we're really not sure of

1:27:16 And it turns out that this $1.9 billion dollars that the president is asking for, is exactly the amount of money that has not been received from pledges to the Ebola rescue fund So how it works is everybody sends out a press release, oh we're gonna help with Ebola Put us up for $25 million. Okay, good." So they have all this money and then it's supposed to be 5.2 billion but they're 1.9 billion shy because people have not paid yet and the president is now saying I want that money, I need it because people are dying Zika virus baby small heads Now I have the entire rundown here from The United Nations

1:28:02 the officer of the United Nations Special Envoy on Ebola. And I can tell you who has donated what and who is still outstanding on their money, who are essentially being called out by the president to pony up because this money needs to go to fight Zika But I also found where the money goes so that will kind of help us and The numbers are weird if you look at whose put in what kind of money? So Australia they have pledged 30 million dollars Austria $3 million. I want to play a game with you, John. How much money do you think Belgium... You know considering Austria put in three, Australia put in 30 how much is Belgium the little tiny country of Belgium put in for Ebola and now for Zika? 40 million 56 56 and they're pretty much current Canada had pledged 96 they are still 13 million short they're short their arrears China 125 million they're paid up good to go

1:29:03 France, hmm. They pledged 189 million have only delivered 96. Hello? Frenchies step it up now here's a tough one Germany had pledged 391 million dollars has only delivered 134 I think that's problematic and we look at Ireland put in 73 million, all these amounts you've got to question. Why so much money and why are some people not paying? The United Kingdom is a big problem this they promised 1 billion dollars have only delivered on 516 million. Oh bastards! Now the USA we pledged 2 billion 364 million we have paid two billion three hundred sixty four billion the European Union itself

1:29:51 pledged $939 billion, a million have only delivered 715. Who set up this scam? The United Nations! Now here's some individual corporations who have pledged yet not donated again They were brought in to pledge for Ebola. They said, yep we're gonna get this money and that is now being transferred to Zika which I'm pretty sure most of the people who pledged the money are saying wow what kind of bullshit is this? Here's a couple other organizations which have not yet ponied up Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation promised 58 million dollars they're six million short and check this out The Google Larry Page Family Foundation pledged 25 million

1:30:38 They have so far delivered 0.0 million. No? What, that's an outrage! It's a total outrage And how about the Silicon... Just don't pledge anything if you're not going to give anything and keep your name out of it Well the president should call these fuckers out You know who else pledged 25 million? And didn't-and delivered zero The Silicon Valley Community Foundation I didn't even know that it existed. Oh, and there's a bunch of VCs and a bunch of A-holes Now where does this money go? Okay This is why i think It's easy to see why we have to get this 1.9 billion dollars because it's going to everything except the Ebola or Zika And the companies that are receiving the most are Liberia

1:31:24 They will get $668 million, Guinea gets 835 but the countries don't get this money. No NGOs within the country get the money John This is all NGO money Why we don't start an NGO and just go for it? UN women get a million dollars of this How does that have anything to do with Ebola or Zika how does that have anything to do with it This is just pots of money to give away. Yeah? Well, this is like the Haiti thing with Bush and Clinton! Yeah let me give you... For all that money, I'm sure some of it got distributed to UN women. Well let's run down these NGOs. ACDI VOCA—I have no idea what that is—the American Refugee Committee 7 mil Catholic Relief Services 14 million. I'm sure these people are doing real work

1:32:13 Samaritan's Purse, Save the Children, World Vision. Other is pretty big other is bigger than everything all put together other is half a million to half a billion dollars but check this out The Netherlands has pledged $82 million and yeah, 82 million dollars. They're about 2 million short so they've got another payment to go probably whatever but what's returning to the Netherlands as from this fund because countries also get money back hold on lost my place in the PDF here it is The Netherlands Ministry of Defense receives 7 million dollars from the fund that their own country just put out there

1:32:57 The US Department of Defense receives $631 million dollars of the Zika fund or Ebola. Who? The Department of Defense What are they getting the money for because this is... They haven't got enough money?! This is laundering money! Here, this U.S Centers for Disease Control CDC 800 million dollars and they've already received a lot of this money Then we have, oh who else? The African Union receives money. The World Bank receives 50 million dollars. This is a... What?! Because they were promised the money! This is the way I see it

1:33:36 This has got to be... We've always questioned the Ebola crisis. So this is payoffs, this is payoffs to countries, it's payoffs to NGOs that are controlled by other operations I don't see huge medical... You know, I see a lot of research you know there's a billion and half of research they're looking at which part of this money will go too but this is bullshit! What does the Dutch Ministry of Defense have to get 10% of their country paid in the first place? Stinks. If anything, if anything maybe this is how you slush a billion two billion dollars out of the country for then your friends to use it to I don't know vote for Hillary? I don't know what's going on but its bullshit they are taking the Ebola crisis over take that money put into Zika we know very little about Zika were scaring everybody well there is no case in microcephaly or any related Zika deaths that end in our country as far as I know and should mention a couple other things

CHAPTER 22 / 43 Discussion

Obama Cable Box Initiative and FCC Competition

President Obama used his weekly address to advocate for FCC rules that would allow consumers to buy their own set-top boxes rather than renting them from cable providers. The hosts dismiss the President's focus on "remote controls" as a distraction. They argue the initiative is actually a move to benefit Silicon Valley giants like Google and Amazon by standardizing video delivery.

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1:34:35 One, and they've talked about this at the beginning of the crisis and now they don't talk about it anymore. The specific mosquito which I actually have the name here... what was it called? It's Addis Egypti Yeah, A-E-D-S-A. And by the way John this virus has been known since the 50s! Yes and this mosquito doesn't exist in the United States because one of it carries certain specific things which we never have in the United States It carries dengue? There's no dengue ever in the United States ever. It carries yellow fever?! We'd all have to get shots for yellow fever!!

1:35:18 So this mosquito that carries this little thing doesn't, you know... well maybe it'll jump species. You know there's a bunch of bullcrap they're just lying to us but you're onto something but what? Well I don't know! But here..but i have another occurrence another oddity to add to this mix and my conclusion I'll tell you up front is I think that in these last few months the president has he's got to make good with everybody all the things he promised He's gotta...he's gotta....and mainly for special interests So this is... Josh Earnest in that press conference was irked. It was as though he was scolding them for not doing what they're supposed to do, which is give out the money! Yeah or move the money around legally

1:36:04 The point is this money is clearly not going to doctors in tents with hazmat suits who are going to solve the shrunken head problem. This is not what's going on, this money is being distributed and the president did his podcast today which is the weekly address And it was all about one thing, which to me is like okay. It's obvious this is another quid pro quo or maybe for the- maybe he has to do this for you know for Hillary or the Democratic Party but listen to this sack of crap One industry that's ripe for change is cable TV Right now 99% of cable and satellite TV customers rent set top boxes from their providers According to one survey this cost households an average of more than $230 per year

1:36:50 We spend some $20 billion to rent these devices. While we have almost unlimited choice in what we watch on television, from traditional programming to online content there's next to no competition to build a better user-friendly product that allows you to easily access all this content in one place. The president here and with everything going on the world is advocating for standardization of video entertainment to the home. So most consumers just rent whatever the cable company offers because we have to that means companies... No, we don't have to! That's bullcrap! Come on, sorry. ...content in one place so most consumers just rent whatever the cable company offers because we have to that means companies have little incentive to innovate

1:37:38 As a consequence, we need multiple devices and controllers to access content from different sources. We need mul... Oh yes! What is it? Is the president's problem more than one remote control? Is that what he's complaining about here? That makes no sense. No it makes no sense So my administration has encouraged the FCC to remove the barriers to competition that prevent new players from offering innovative cable box options to consumers. Somebody at Comcast or Warner didn't cough up some money? We know this work... This is a call out for being bribed, let's stop and discuss a couple of things. One it's bull crap you do not have to use their gear you can put a TiVo on there I run my cable

1:38:20 uh... tv stuff to a sling box and i accident access is that way i'd i do not read the cable box for my television through cable i just don't now and i'm not paying monthly fee and with the dish network ninety said it's time you can find some receiver for that you don't need to run necessarily but i think i tell you something basis view but if you want to it's very convenient use their bodies because you can get fiction gets walked out in going local comcast service center have it that or whatever, if you can't use it they'll show you how. So there's a lot...so this is bull crap." Well I will not surprise you that the words coming out of the president's mouth have nothing to do with the letter he sent to FCC. This is not about what, you know, the issues you just had with what he stated and I'll tell you what it is after he's done. ...new players from offering innovative cable box options to consumers.

1:39:14 We know this works. For years, Americans had to rent our telephones from the phone company. This was a while ago but when the FCC finally unlocked competition for home phones the marketplace was flooded with all kinds of phone options with new features and at different price points consumers suddenly had many options and whole industry moved forward as result The same can happen with cable boxes And in dozens of areas of our economy All which can make a difference in your everyday life The bottom line is competition is good for consumers, workers businesses and our economy. So I'm going to keep doing everything I can to make sure that our free market works for everyone

CHAPTER 23 / 43 Discussion

DRM Standardization and Hollywood Quid Pro Quo

The push for new cable box standards is identified as an effort to create a common API for Digital Rights Management (DRM). The hosts suggest this is a "quid pro quo" for Hollywood and tech companies to ensure controlled content flow across all devices. They argue that the administration's rhetoric about "competition" is disingenuous and masks an anti-competitive play for data and rights control.

drm· html5· mozilla· google· amazon· hollywood

1:39:55 Thanks, and have a great weekend. Thanks Obama. What this is, is the FCC corralling all video providers but I think they're working on behalf of most likely Amazon Netflix and Hulu maybe. But Amazon and Netflix are on the committee then the Silicon Valley's over-represented well actually let me tell you what we have here with AT&T Sony Electronics Dish Network Amazon

1:40:43 public knowledge, not sure who they are. Vizio and then we do have Comcast I don't see Netflix on it... oh wait there's more the Motion Picture Association of America Google of course they're also a big player in video Samsung Evolution Digital TiVo etc They are trying to force a common API for DRM. That's what this is about, nothing else! So the president with all this bullshit about you won't have to have as many remotes... I'm actually waiting for him to say that exact sentence You know like, you won't have to take your shoes off taking the train, you'll only have one remote control Vote for me, this is a great idea It is entirely

1:41:32 politically motivated. And... Hollywood pulling the strings? Hollywood pulling the strings, there's a lot of services have put their and I was against this when the Mozilla Foundation started doing this they're putting you know there's DRM digital rights management in HTML5 I think it's EME or something like that, it's called. So what they're trying to do is they're trying to get everybody to come together on a common API so that they can then have what they call competitive navigation systems. They just want all the money to flow properly and it's not... It's anti-competitive in my mind. Of course it is! The president is very disingenuous about this. I think he should just tell the truth. I don't think it would bother most people

1:42:22 Yeah, I mean it bothers that the whole tech community because the tech community is fairly knowledgeable if dead You know we're this is a DRM play yeah And so they get irked by this every time it happens But I think the public at large doesn't care The public at large is going to buy his message and if you add to that only one remote home my god people will freak out One remote are you kidding me? One but this is I think this has got it that means one remote you can really screw around with your buddies This has got to be Quid pro quo for Hollywood, and I'd say for Google and Amazon and other Silicon Valley Companies would be yeah. I don't think maybe the whole rest of us the rest of his tenure will be just these deals

CHAPTER 24 / 43 Discussion

Russian Jet Buzzing Incident and Sea Agreements

The White House downplays an incident where Russian jets buzzed a US Navy ship in the Baltic Sea, citing the 1972 "Incident at Sea Agreement." The hosts report that such "hot-dogging" is routine for both US and Russian forces and is only being highlighted now for propaganda purposes. They note that US helicopters frequently perform similar maneuvers near Russian vessels without media outcry.

russia· us navy· josh earnest· incident at sea agreement· baltic sea

1:43:06 It's very possible. The Zika thing is a little more interesting to me than the... Well, I know but i'm just saying that it seems like right now he's doing a lot of these things He's just you know racking all up gotta get this out got to do this gotta do that Oh gotta figure this one out So there was no way we can get continuous donations to his presidential library Exactly! Got another little deconstruction You had the great clip on Thursday about the Russian jet fighter You know buzzing the one it was actually yeah, two of them. They're buzzed in a ship yeah I have Another Josh Earnest clip downplaying the event Can you offer any details of the contents of the defense attache's? Message to Russia. I don't know that The details of that message. I don't know exactly how that information is transmitted what I

1:44:05 What we do know, though, is that that is a routine channel of communication. The defense attache in Moscow is responsible for communicating with his counterparts there on a regular basis on a wide range of issues and it's not uncommon at all to use this channel to raise our concerns about this kind of conduct from the Russian military. We've seen these kinds of acts from Russian military pilots, for example in the past This is the channel that we have used to convey our concerns so it's not at all extraordinary that we would be conveying our concerns about this incident through that particular channel But the incidents themselves on Monday and Tuesday were not routine

1:44:53 I've never heard this guy talk. This is a character in that cartoon He looks like a character in the cartoon I've seen him before but I've never heard him speak with the public question as we know all these are scripted So it would make sense to channel, but the incidents themselves on Monday and Tuesday were not routine I've never seen a video or photos like that of Russian aircraft buzzing United States warship. What i understand to be true... This is another good one, I gotta use that! What I understand to be true because I did not take the cookie from the cookie jar That's how I understand the truth Is that you know the incident we saw was no routine but certainly not unprecedented

1:45:37 Does the United States believe that Russia violated the Incident at Sea Agreement? Now this is interesting. I had not heard of this one, the Incident At Sea Agreement and this stems back to 1972 when this was passed there was an agreement between the United States and Russia I'll just read from the State Department's website here. In March of 1968, the United States proposed talks on preventing such incidents from becoming more serious. The Soviet Union accepted the invitation in November of 1970. Talks were conducted in two rounds one in Moscow and then 72 the agreement was signed and specifically the agreement provides for steps to avoid collision not interfering with the formations of the other party avoiding maneuvers in areas of heavy sea traffic

1:46:37 requiring surveillance ships to maintain a safe distance from the object of investigation. It's odd that we've never ever heard of this before... There's never been a reference to this when there were close incursions or anything like that. It's the first time this has been brought up and this guy clearly was ready to pop it in earnest. Well, you said like...you said it was scripted maybe they couldn't get anyone else to ask that question we've never heard this guy before so he's obviously planted to ask this specific question to bring it to the fore And its propaganda I have received multiple emails and encrypted messages from

1:47:14 boots on the groundwater under the seas, and they say this happens all the time. In fact we do it even better! We send our attack helicopters to buzz the Russian ships I put a picture in the show notes you can see it for yourself This happens all the time It's hot-dogging And that's why there are no pictures or no one swinging guns around Or taking... No pictures of defensive moves because its done all the time This is what we do Its like Top Gun Hey! Hey fuckers look at me This is nothing out of the ordinary, except that it's now being propagandized to make Russia look like a scary, scary entity. It's bullcrap." Good one! I'll give you clip of... oh sorry. No, no, I wouldn't even accept it because it's not a clip

CHAPTER 25 / 43 Discussion

Journalism School Rules and Cognitive Dissonance

The hosts discuss the "nut graph" and the structural requirements taught in journalism schools, which mandate including opposing viewpoints. They argue that this model often creates cognitive dissonance by presenting contradictory facts—such as a report claiming higher speed limits cause more deaths while simultaneously noting record-low fatality rates—without providing a resolution or deeper investigation.

journalism· j-school· cognitive dissonance· speed limits· media theory

1:48:01 Since you're talking about this kind of propaganda, I've got a clip that's kind of interesting. This is a clip that I believe in—I started thinking about this—the idea of cognitive dissonance actually being created by the structure of news media since the era of journalism school, the J-School where you're required to have one positive and one negative and one neutral. Hold on, hold it back up. You gotta...I don't know anything about this when did J School start? And is this the rule? I don't know when J-School started, that's a good question. But that is the rule of... generally speaking and you take journalism classes or you talk to journalists there's a rule it's kind of an it's a written rule somewhere but its one of the textbooks someplace I'm just gonna tell you what it isn't not going to document

1:48:44 When you do a story, there's supposed to be structure for the story. It is supposed to exist and it has been diluted by the internet but it still kind of there. You have all information in the beginning. You have something called a nut graph which has all the information throughout the article put into one paragraph which you can find and use as summary to understand what they're talking about But in their summary are suppose to have people who comment on it And where did you put the you won't believe what happened next line? Yeah, that would be what happened next will blow you away. I don't think that's in any of the text Oh, I'm sorry thought that's how you have the you have to have a couple people Tommy You have somebody saying yeah well the way I see it is not the way and I worked it was the other way

1:49:31 And then someone says, I don't know. I have no clue and then you have a third person saying yes they're absolutely correct in this that should've done this as long ago. You know you have this just supposedly somebody disagrees somebody doesn't know what he's talking about and somebody who agrees and it's kind of in general So we have these conflicting quotes usually and their gratuitous 90% of the time It's like you never end there was joke goes around journalism about well you can do that with Hitler Who's gonna survive? Hitler was a good man. It doesn't go over well, it doesn't play well So I've noticed that this has devolved into a moment of creating the way news stories especially in the broadcast media is creating cognitive dissonance by giving you different information and never giving you a conclusion as it's messing with your wiring. I'm absolutely convinced and I think the model

1:50:27 of the pro and con quotes is part of the problem, but they way they do it now it's like there a little more complex and its harder to deconstruct. But you can see when you see one of these pieces in this piece ran in I think CBS would tell us as they start talking or ABC When you listen to the piece, it's like why are they even telling us this is stupid? It's a stupid article or broadcast package. But in there, there's this conflicting information that has to leave you and the listener confused at a deep subconscious level. Which is where I think they want to keep the entire public. This is the piece...and you can listen for it yourself. This is the speed limit report talking about the pros and cons of setting the speed limit at various higher or lower.

1:51:23 When I watched this piece, it's confusing. They never really say and then there is contradictory information the whole thing is designed... Can I interject something? Yeah. Just before, I have no idea what the report is about but i always learned that the initial 55 mile an hour speed limit was implemented to help the nation save gas in the 70s? Is that true? That was the original right well way I remember it they did it just help save gas and then they noticed that there was less traffic deaths, so they left it let it go and then but now we've got all kinds of contradictory information and it's just fed into the subconscious with no...it's just I think this is a classic example of the

1:52:09 news media creating this crazy, and I think this all stems from the... We used to have newspapers that were so-and-so Democrat, the so-and-so Republican. And they were newspapers with points of view. That has been dissolved there's no more newspaper with points of view the whole thing is... Or at least not blatantly Well, they have. They still can't get around it because everyone has points of view and they won't admit it but the real I think the underlying goal here is to create just a dumbed-down public that doesn't know anything listen to this report. We asked transportation correspondent Chris Van Cleve to fill us in

1:52:45 Montgomery County, Maryland police captain Thomas Dedone sees the danger of speed daily. Speed is determining whether a crash is an injury or property damage. The faster someone's going the more likely that someone's gonna get hurt. But for Dedone it's also personal his 15 year old son Ryan died in a crash where the driver was going at least 20 miles over the limit if he had been going to speed limit there's not a doubt in my mind every kid would have been home safe But speed limits across the country have been going up since the federal government repealed the mandatory maximum of 55 in 1995. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found those increases have caused at least 33,000 deaths over a 20-year period with every five miles the speed limit rose deaths grew by 4%. On freeways it jumped 8%

1:53:36 Charles Farmer authored the study. For this few minutes that you're saving by going faster, you are increasing your risk quite a bit there are people dying out there But the National Motorist Association says speed limits work best when approximating the natural flow of traffic, which may be higher than the posted limit. The NMA's Gary Biller. That the fatality rates overall have dropped dramatically to the point where in the last couple years they're lowest on record so as states have continually been raising speed limits their safety statistics actually gotten better Researchers estimate 1,900 people lost their lives in 2013 because of the higher speed limits. That's almost as many lives as were saved by frontal airbags that year Scott seven states have speed limits of 80 miles an hour or higher in parts of Texas that limit is 85 Chris Van Cleve thank you Chris and we'll be right back yeah that's okay so what I heard was study shows

1:54:35 That when you increase the speed limit, more people die. And then right after that less people dying every year! Yeah Well that's crazy This is a story designed to create cognitive dissonance I'm just putting myself in the shoes of the reporter or person who made this package which probably the reporter did some production himself, you know or outlined the story. I think he just like you said, he just went through the J-School and put boom boom those two opposing pieces in and didn't even think about saying wow that's weird or hmmm there is no investigation done. I think he just put in pro con done it creates cognitive dissidence but I don't know if it was done on purpose. It may not well...I don't think it was done on purpose. No

1:55:29 I think the model itself is the problem. You set up, yeah okay i see what you're saying but this example...I would listen to this thing they go on and on about more deaths and everyone's gonna die and then now that the other guy says no it's just the opposite! And then they just drop it they don't even comment on the discrepancy there's a discrepancy hello? And discrepancy is rarely commented on using this model. It's just that they leave it as a discrepancy for you to just be confused by what good is that? Specifically, I'm going to add, you know, there are journalists who listen to the show What good is it to throw in a discrepancy of that sort and just let lie in there? Yeah, it would have been okay if he used the face bag quote. I'm just going to put leave this here for a bit

CHAPTER 26 / 43 Discussion

Planned Parenthood Zika Funding and STD Epidemics

Planned Parenthood is positioning itself to receive Zika relief funding by framing reproductive healthcare as a human right essential to managing the virus. Meanwhile, the CDC reports a resurgence of old-school diseases like syphilis within the LGBTQ community. The hosts warn that reliance on "PrEP" pills for HIV prevention may be leading to a dangerous decrease in protection against other serious infections.

planned parenthood· zika· syphilis· lgbtq· prep· cdc

1:56:20 You ever seen this? No, I don't receive face bags. People on the face bag and then they post an article and say, I'm just going to leave this here What's the point? It's kind of like it's kind of like this is so obvious that you're so stupid that i'm just gonna leave This here So you see how stupid you are and it's so obvious you're stupid. I don't have to report on it That's kind of what oh, I don't know anything about this. I will point out as a as an airman uh speed does not kill lack of speed kills It's true. Oh, I just got a new clip in! Whoa whoa whoa check this out...I haven't looked at it but hey what if some of that Zika money might go to one of our favorite organizations in America? Think babies think women? Planned Parenthood. Zika has made a long-standing public health crisis impossible to ignore and demonstrates the critical need of government support for sexual and reproductive healthcare

1:57:18 So I think we've heard many folks speak much more eloquently than me that the ability to decide if and when to have children is basic health care, but it's a basic human right as well. And yet it's not realized for so many women across the region which this outbreak is making crystal clear What I want to articulate though is that the same is going to be true in the contiguous United States as it becomes more prevalent here. Women with the least ability to plan their families, the least access to health care generally will feel the outbreak-the impact of this outbreak the most And in fact, if we look at some of the states where we're already seeing the highest number of Zika cases Florida and Texas both are states that have recently flashed their reproductive health programs. Texas over a series of bills over the last several years one which is before the Supreme Court right now and Florida just last month defunded Planned Parenthood

1:58:11 So, this is the opposite of what we need to be doing as we're gearing up as a nation just to tackle this epidemic as it comes home. Epidemic? They're probably... Yeah, they're epidemic and they're probably going to get a little bit that cash. Sure! That's the way it goes I have to say something to my LGBTQI AAP brothers and sisters you are in dire dire danger at great risk And I've been saying this for years on this program And when I heard this report, it's like, geez, can please listen prep. OK, prep is not going to save your life. You know about the prep John Prep is the you know? This is the you won't get AIDS if you take PrEP pill. I don't know anything about come on. We've talked about this a lot. PrEP pill prep PR EP.

1:59:02 Yeah, I figured that. We've talked about it quite a bit. Okay so PrEP is capital P capital R small e capital p you know is being prescribed as well you know it's usually meant for couples and one may be HIV positive but if you just say oh I don't need condoms or protect myself from anything I can just go to the club and do whatever I want to do, you're going to run into other problems. People are callous about the risk." Here's the report from CDC. We're concerned about our high levels of syphilis among men who have sex with men really were back to the level of disease burden and disease in gay men that we are seeing before HIV in this country. We're concerned about the erosion of public health infrastructure and how this is impacting our ability to respond to these epidemics and endemic

1:59:58 with the reduction in boots on the ground staff and closure of STD clinics. More money! Well, more money but they're also... The LGBT community is getting old school diseases. Syphilis? Not fun I think they are trying to kill them off. It seems that way! Yeah Oh, it's just... oh my god and all the... it's everywhere but... oh, I'll just take PrEP. It's over! Wooo! Party time celebrate no PrEP is also not 100% effective There's a lot of propaganda but when it comes down to this This is one of the worst This IS going to kill people Yeah Yeah exactly yeah Alright

CHAPTER 27 / 43 Discussion

Bill Nye and Jailing Climate Skeptics

Bill Nye "The Science Guy" comments on the possibility of jailing climate change skeptics, comparing the situation to the fraud committed by Enron executives or the tobacco industry. Nye suggests that introducing "extreme doubt" about climate change affects the quality of life for citizens and may warrant criminal investigation. The hosts condemn the rhetoric as an attack on legal dissent.

bill nye· climate change· robert f. kennedy jr· enron· fraud

2:00:49 I'll open up the climate gate for a second before we do anything else. Where is that? Yes, we have our favorite scientist Bill Nye! He is of course the science guy and he's in the news... The Climate Guy Yeah, he's the climate guy maybe kill the skeptics guy or throw him in jail We interviewed Robert F Kennedy Jr., the environmentalist here at the People's Climate March in 2014 September He said that the climate deniers, his word and energy CEOs belong at The Hague with three square meals in a cot with all the other war criminals. What is your thought on that? Do you think some of the rhetoric on your side as I'm sure both sides but some of the rhetoric inside gets too carried away? I mean what's your thought on jailing skeptics as war criminals? We'll see what happens was it appropriate to jail the guys from Enron

2:01:42 Okay, right. So we'll see what happens if... Was it appropriate to jail people from the cigarette industry? You insisted. Did anyone from the cigarette industry go to jail? Not that I know of. I don't think that's true. They got fined! The Enron guys were because they were committing fraud. It is illegal. There's nothing illegal about being a climate science skeptic unless you're an A-hole like this guy who obviously has no concern about what should be legal or illegal because this is so important Okay, right. So we'll see what happens. This is horrible this way this is unacceptable behavior Well these only 30 seconds more jailing skeptics as war criminals We'll see what happens was it appropriate to jail the guys from Enron?

2:02:28 Interesting. Okay, right? So we'll see what happens if it wasn't appropriate to jail people. What is that supposed to mean? We'll see what happens! Maybe he would have... Right? They get jailed too bad. Maybe he knows something we don't know about from the cigarette industry who insisted... E-McCams. ...insisted that this addictive product was not addictive and so on and you think about... Go on. In these cases for me as a taxpayer and voter The doubting, the introduction of this extreme doubt. We deal with extreme doubt about climate change is affecting my quality of life as a public citizen. How's it doing that? Well he's going to tell you! So I can see where people are very concerned about this and are pursuing criminal investigations as well as engaging in discussions like this. Oh yes very good Bill. Jail them all throw us in jail throw us in jail please throw us in jail

CHAPTER 28 / 43 Discussion

Barbara Boxer Sexual Harassment Anecdote

John C. Dvorak shares a historical anecdote from the 1970s regarding Senator Barbara Boxer's time on the board of a California air pollution district. He claims Boxer frequently propositioned staff members for rides home, which was a well-known joke among inspectors at the time. The hosts discuss the double standards of sexual harassment in political environments.

barbara boxer· california· air pollution district· sexual harassment

2:03:19 Your friend, Barbara Boxer showed the back of her tongue up on the hill earlier this week. She was not happy. Can we confirm that she's a moron? As far as I can tell. Yeah, but you know her right? You know her... I worked when she at the air pollution district when she was one of them on the board. Ah. I ran into a few times and said hello yeah but i didn't know her the way some of the other inspectors apparently did. Apparently knew her quite well who were having to drive her home this is in the 70s of course when she was a little more uh sexy sexy mm-hmm yeah and then we might as well tell the story not everyone's heard it

2:04:05 Barbara Boxer used to come to these meetings, she was on the board of the air pollution district which is a regional government. And she would always try to find someone to drive her home. At that time I think she was either a supervisor or a congresswoman, i'm not sure, she wasn't a senator at that time And everyone was amongst the group of efficient, you know it's a rumor sort of like any farming community. Amongst the inspectors they said unless you want to go to bed with Barbara Boxer you don't want to drive her home because she propositioned everybody and... That just tickles me! I just love this story. Hey, wanna come in? Wanna nightcap? So uh.. You had to really be careful

2:04:55 It's the rat as far as I'm concerned sexual harassment. Of course of course, it's sexual harassment on the other hand nobody was complaining I mean they were complaining about being proposition if they don't want to be But they weren't you know charging or then even that other guys report hey? I'll take your home Yeah They were just laughing behind your back the way you're supposed to It wasn't a laughing matter. Gotcha! There was no laughing going on... So she's in the, what is it? I wrote it down the Environmental and Public Works Committee and there so of course its Democrats and Republicans and this is about global warming and climate change And she has or I guess the Republican senators brought in two priests

CHAPTER 29 / 43 Discussion

Barbara Boxer and Father Sirico Climate Hearing

During a Senate Environment and Public Works Committee hearing, Barbara Boxer clashed with Father Robert Sirico of the Acton Institute. Boxer criticized the inclusion of a "philosopher" in a scientific discussion and used Pope Francis's comments on inequality to challenge the witnesses' free-market views. Sirico responded by accusing the committee of cherry-picking the Pope's non-magisterial statements.

barbara boxer· father sirico· acton institute· pope francis· climate change

2:05:49 One of which is Father Sirico, and he works for the Acton Institute. Now I'm presuming this is some right-wing think tank bullcrap outfit? The Acton Institute? Are you familiar with the Acton... What's the name of it? Acton Institute? A C T O N Book Of Knowledge? What is the Acton Institute? The Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty, a Christian conservative think tank whose ideas influenced by natural law theory, Christian social thought and free market economics. Sounds like a right wing. So they're creationists that believe in the free market, okay? There you go so you guessed right yeah bullcrap Right-wing think tank but it made for fun on the hill It's made for fun because of course Barbara Boxer who let me guess is she a scientist John

2:06:38 No. Well, she didn't like that there were non-scientists as witnesses, that's for sure. Thank you very much. Send her a box of syrup. Thank you. Mr Epstein are you a scientist? This is the other... this is the first priest and then the other father comes up in a second. No. Philosopher You're a philosopher Yes Okay Well This is the Environment and Public Works Committee. I think it's interesting we have a philosopher here talking about an issue... It's to teach you how to think more clearly Well, you don't have to teach me how to think more clearly You do not have to try running for the Senate on your platform Oh! I love that Try running for the Senate on your platform If you're against climate change, try running for the Senate, you'll never win

2:07:20 At least that's the way I heard it. That's the way she said it! Oh my god, this is her? This is Barbara. You don't have to teach me how to think clearly. Try running for the Senate on your platform. Reverend Nelson perhaps the most... well this is the place to have a philosopher not a scientist It's perfect for this Republican... You don't have to integrate the big picture data. I'm not asking you anything that all you have to know is, you're a philosopher not a scientist and I don't appreciate getting lectured by a philosopher about science. I just love how she's bitching at the priest!

2:07:56 I want to talk to you. Father, this was kind of interesting the Acton Institute's strong support for Catholicism and free market economics has come under strain as Pope Francis is actively criticized global inequality and unfettered capitalism in May 2014 the Popes Twitter account posted a tweet the popes saying, quote inequality is the root of all evil. So what she's decided to do is she's decided to put these guys in their place by quoting the Pope and what is going on in our government? Do we just have to say this pope is a plague Joe Carter, a senior editor at Acton tweeted in reply This is to the Pope saying inequality is the root of all evil Seriously though What was up with that tweet by the Pontiff

2:08:46 Has he traded the writings of Peter and Paul for economist Piketty? So do you disagree with the Pope when he says that climate change is one of the biggest issues and we have to... Senator, I'm very grateful for your defense of the Pope. Perhaps not in all his magisterial authority and the cherry picking of this or that. I can ask what I want! Do you disagree with the Pope on climate change? It's a simple yes-or-no. No, this was her tactic Pope says be careful, yes or no? When the pope says things that have to do with science he does not speak.

2:09:25 from the magisterial authority of the church. When he speaks on moral issues such as abortion and contraception and the like, then he speaks on that. So who's cherry picking? You're saying that when the planet is facing all these problems it's not a moral issue I don't agree with you. Where did i say that could you give me that quotation senator? You just said it sir! I did not so to me John The Church is just as hijacked as everything else Yeah, it's totally hijacked. This is... Everything is co-opted! Yeah, it's co-opted this really shows it now I happen to agree with what he's saying to a large extent and share that much about the religion part

2:10:07 But come on, get this guy out of the field too. Sir you received money from the Koch brothers from Exxon. I never said that and I don't disagree with the Kochs. I think you ought to have a talk with Bretton Nelson who is by the way not a scientist. What i was trying to do was put into perspective the notion of how an institute is funded. And by the way, it's not just an educational institute like ours, it's political campaigns like the senators and what I'm saying... So when Democrats make a pilgrimage to Tom Steyer's house in California who promises $100 million dollars to their funds including members of this committee that would might be something that... Alright, I am just going to stop

2:10:53 It did I know he's a bunch of bickering. Did these guys have anything better to do with their time? No, and what was the point who is the barber boxers point she just wants to do all in on climate change fine Yeah But she wants to discredit rating some poor bastard now to discredit and oh but also He's not clean either that whole thing is just ludicrous That is the anti clip of the day Jingle Anti-clip of the day. I can try it, see if i can do it. Anti-clip of the day! Anti clip of...I have a couple screwball stories. I could do a cliplits after the next thing if you want Well do you wanna do uh..cliplits at the end or before we go and thank people? Now your confusing me your off format Im not confusing you its cognitive dissonance that's confusing you It's working Um

CHAPTER 30 / 43 Discussion

Producer Credits and Value-for-Value Model

The hosts continue thanking their producers and discussing the "No Agenda" business model. They contrast their direct-support system with the failing traditional radio and NPR models, which rely on controlled networks and advertising. They argue that the future of media lies in building communities that contribute ideas, art, and financial support directly to the content creators.

donation· producer· value-for-value· podcasting· radio· monetization

2:11:54 No, actually I do. Yeah, I'd like to do a clip blitz at the end. I'll earmark the clips that would go well at the end... Okay To uh...to Blitz! Okay Well then let's just do one- Oh actually why don't we thank our donors? It is definitely time. John Cena, boy! Oh no! I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all of the people who could deal with us Oh yeah that would be fab oh yeah it would be great On KnowAgenda We do have a few people to thank, including Christopher Pauly in Madison Wisconsin. $160 and 16 cents. Danny Baker in Morristown Tennessee, $100 he's getting close to... He wants to know how to check for you. You do your own bookkeeping is how you do it and you can figure out how much you've given the show. Jonathan Petrucini in Brook Park Ohio, $100

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2:18:15 Idaho or Kuska, Kuskia. I think Kuskia. We'll have to get a pronunciation on that. All right! And that's it. That's our group of well-wishers and supporters for show 817 want to thank them all yep and then also the people who gave lesser amounts we have a lot of $33 a month subscribers four dollars a week and various others but we could definitely use more certainly of the subscriptions but we appreciate the help that everyone Everybody does to contribute everything everyone does to contribute to the show. I keep realizing this it was what a stroke of genius to consider our audience to be producers Yeah

2:18:57 It's really the truth. Turns out that they are producers! Yeah, it's really the truth and it's really interesting. A revelation of the truth. Nobody else will do this. We're the only show that really welcomes our listener-producers to give us a hand we have boots on the ground all over the place people listen to the show and they contribute to keep the show going and believe me that's what they're doing is not non trivial and then there were artists who help us People that write songs and jingles. It's fantastic! It really hit me when the website came out wheretheseastandsfor.com I mean if we were at a radio station, and we were doing a morning show And I turned around to one of the two producers We have and I say hey man you know? I really need a mechanism so i can come up with new C things Hey let's put a website together You know some application So I can get a randomized word that starts with c and be like yeah That's never gonna happen

2:19:52 Meeting we have a meeting gotta get IT involved me There's gonna be somebody one of the tech guys now. You can't do that it's gonna be as structural problem Yeah, we have to do what is gonna crash the system. We have to do a SWAT analysis a SWAT analysis All right well the finances are of course appreciated and necessary to keep the code going do you keep the show going and we will be back on Thursday with another program so for everybody a couple of was he got f cancer in some jobs karma Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for job

2:20:34 Mishka. Karma. Woo! Alrighty then! Well, we've got Sir Sean who turns 50. Sir Wine of the Hidden Jewels says happy birthday to his son EJ who turned 12 on April 12th Kyle Ferenz...uhh..Ferenz says happy birthday to his daughter Charlotte and Keith Carlisle's happy birthday to Diana Carothers Oh, it turns 40 today! Happy birthday from all you buddies here at the best podcast in the universe. Okay let me see we have a title sheet... Did that include the newborn? No but we did stop and say wait yeah daughter Charlotte it was Charlotte yes Charlotte new human resource Charlotte yes. Sir Herb Lamb has upped his peerage to that of Baron and he is now the Baron of Beauford Dam

CHAPTER 31 / 43 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Richard

A formal knighting ceremony is conducted for Richard Henderson, who is dubbed "Sir Richard, Black Knight of the Foot." The hosts perform the traditional "Hookers and Blow" litany, welcoming him to the No Agenda Round Table. They apologize for a previous administrative error that necessitated his status as a Black Knight.

knighting· black knight· no agenda· peerage· ceremony

2:21:32 And we welcome him in the peerage map for that at itm.im slash peerage. Ask the book of knowledge what's Buford Dam? Okay, book of knowledge... What is Buford Dam? Oh boy maybe I should say- I'll try this Book Of Knowledge Wikipedia Buford Dam John Buford Jr was a Union cavalry officer- Okay shut up! Well, apparently it was something named after a cavalry officer in the Civil War. Yes speaking of such blade used to be called damn Buford

2:22:14 All right, Richard Henderson. Step up my friend! It's taken a little while we have another one of those rare occurrences A Black Knight knighting for the round table of the Knights and Dames So...Richard please kneel before the lectern here as I am very proud to pronounce to Kate thee Sir Richard Black Knight Of The Foot For you We have Hookers & Blow Rents Boys in Chardonnay We got DMT in Astral Travel We got Cuban Cigars In Single Mall Scotch Raspberry Pies And Breakfast Burritos Pork Ribs In Pale Ale Drams In DMT Bad Science In Perky Breasts Johnny Walker Green Labels Video games and vaporizers, progressive rockin' Russian imperial stout sake and sushi. Root beer and pepperoni pizza, malted barley and hops, ass cream with bear fillings, poor styles of pot, makers mark and mushrooms we got ginger ale in gerbils and of course we have mutton and mead

CHAPTER 32 / 43 Discussion

Tourette's, Compulsion, and the Foot Switch

One of the hosts discusses a lifelong struggle with a sniffing compulsion related to Tourette's and the technical challenges it poses for audio noise gates. To mitigate the issue, they purchased a foot-operated cough switch. Paradoxically, the host finds that having the switch available has significantly reduced the psychological compulsion to sniff during the broadcast.

tourette's· ocd· cough switch· compulsion· audio engineering

2:22:58 for all of you who want it. And go to noagenomination.com slash rings and check out the section where you can enter your information, we'll get the rings out to you as soon as possible. We apologize that somehow we messed up on our newest knight therefore he is a black knight good to have him aboard so here's something interesting or humorous I'll say that Was a part of my Tourette's I've had this sniffing issue for a long time? Yeah, the sniffing. Some people have bitched about it. To be honest about it...I'm gonna say that I don't even notice it. Right. But I do notice you're coughing into the mic but the sniffing- I have never noticed it Well you noticed nothing today

2:23:40 I've noticed it before, so it doesn't really make a difference to me. But okay tell me what happened? I bought...I have a cough switch. Okay first of all its a compulsive issue It's something that is really strange and has to do with the noise gate This is part of what Tourette says like I have to sniff but I want to try and sniff So I don't crack the noise gate And of course I always do This is what happens in my head I can't explain any other way Here's the odd thing You and I discussed this Because someone sent an email and I was like, oh man. So just it's compulsive as an issue. This guy went off! Yeah. And it's truly a... It's compulsion. It's Tourette's OCD whatever it is. I know what's compulsion so what do you guys want? What? Go right. So what I do is self-aware. I'm very self aware. Of course I have a cough button that I can use

2:24:35 But it requires a, it's something. It's a button that I push with my finger and so when we're doing the show and I'm grabbing clips on the monitoring levels, I'm hitting jingles or whatever, I'm a hand short so what do I do? I bought a foot cough switch which is fantastic because right now I can just press down here. That's me hitting the cough switch But it's nice. It doesn't click, it doesn't have any... you know which of course a cough switch has to do You can't make noises Right The funny thing is now that I have the cough switch I don't have the compulsion anymore Ah! Fantastic It's so odd It has saved me It has truly saved me

2:25:26 Now that's interesting so here, so here. Here's why I also bring this way a whole lot of say go you there's something contradictory here Which is if you had if this was compulsive behavior to? Or do whatever you like that yeah Yeah How could you ever hit the cough switch in time because it's compulsion You can't go well here comes the compulsion click the switch and then you're good to go I don't have... When i'm coughing it's like, oh, I'm gonna have a little coughing thing going on here. I can hit the switch right? Right! I don't have one by the way. I need one. I can just hit this switch and cough away because I know that cough is coming. But if its compulsive thing Yes Like say as im talking and talk like this And make that sound Yeah And some people do talk like that btw So they make that sound It's a compulsive thing. I would never know to hit the switch yes

CHAPTER 33 / 43 Discussion

Amazon Recommendation Engine and Big Data

The hosts critique the effectiveness of Amazon's recommendation algorithms, noting that the system often suggests products the user has already purchased. They argue that "Big Data" is frequently a myth, as evidenced by the clumsy and redundant marketing emails they receive. The discussion touches on how tracking cookies and "following" ads fail to understand actual consumer behavior.

amazon· big data· algorithms· marketing· privacy· cookies

2:26:20 But this is the point. I got this switch to do anything i can because it certainly annoys me, really annoys me... So the switch is not helping me with the compulsion of other lives. It's fantastic! Yeah that's funny Now here's here's the part that really bugs me about and moving away but staying with the foot switch Something changed with Amazon.com and this came up last night, the night before Tina and I were talking about you know the Amazon Alexa, the Echo thing that said that I have here if she jokingly says oh of course they're listening to us all the time And i said no... She's a marketer, she understands how you could call data and can find out things about what people want or what they've purchased and what you might want to recommend

2:27:13 In general, when you buy something off of amazon.com and I buy almost everything off of Amazon, um...I like that they have other people bought that's kind of a good recommendation engine We all know that once you buy something, particularly on Amazon the product you bought will follow you around the internet trying for you to buy it again. But now they've gone one step further! You know the recommendation emails you get from Amazon? I don't get them... Okay without fail now every product i buy i get this email so here it is Adam Curry based on your recent activity we thought you might be interested in this and they show me

2:27:54 The exact product I bought. Really? The ROLLS MM11 Pro Switchable Microphone Mute Talk Switch Yeah, because you need two of those But they're doing it with everything! They're recommendat- So i'm just going to assume that Amazon really knows what im buying Because I bought it from them This is an email from them They know that I bought this the payments went through them yeah They have absolutely no clue and I think no interest in really... These stupid emails must work somehow. I don't understand. Why take a chance? But every, you know what I'm getting here for basketballs why would i want to basketball

2:28:40 I don't know why you'd want to ask him. Maybe dribble to the store? Just go outside and dribble a ball around with it? Adam Curry, Amazon.com has new recommendations for you based on items you purchased or told us you own! I've never told them I owned anything... And what do they suggest for me? Eclectic supply of lip balm empty container tubes translucent Come on!! These guys are incapable Big data is a myth. So I bought it, I bought a new coffee machine It's pretty simple one but i wanted one with the timer that can flip on and grinds the beans and you get coffee. I buy this, it arrives the next day Oh hi! Customers who have shown interest in espresso machines might like to see our best sellers And its not an espresso machine they show five espresso machines and then the one I just bought

2:29:41 How can anyone think Amazon could do anything with their information? It's very peculiar, I agree. Everyone who works with Amazon has noticed this. But this is... Over and over it's not just once when you're online it's like over and over again And that I understand because that's just following and that's cookies and tracking and stuff like that And Facebook is of course a big, you know they have a lot to do with this. I move my cookies on a routine basis But it's like us sending an email to everybody who just donated $50 and say hey how come you don't donate 50 dollars? I mean that's stupid! Actually we kind of do that don't we yeah Let me see oh before we go anywhere else

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DHS Cyber Hiring and Human Capital Officers

The Department of Homeland Security is implementing flexible hiring paths for "cyber talent" to allow easier movement between federal and commercial sectors. Angela Bailey, the Chief Human Capital Officer, describes the initiative as a modernization of government hiring. The hosts mock the "Human Capital" title and speculate that "flexibility" may involve waiving drug tests for talented IT workers.

dhs· cyber security· angela bailey· human capital· federal jobs

2:37:05 I don't know if they can. Yeah, I don't know if they can but that the Obama administration is trying to block this is an outrage! The whole thing's in outrage. Good news for dudes named Ben out there... The Department of Homeland Security is now considering flexible hiring paths for cyber talent under the phrase this is not our grandfather's government anymore Angela Bailey chief human capital officer My goodness, we have a human capital officer in government? Not that I know of. Yes we do! She is the Chief Human Capital Officer at the Department of Homeland Security. Jeez what a thing to... Chief Human Capital Officer Kind of bogus bull crap title Can you imagine giving that card- Somebody handed me a card and said that I'd laugh in their face and flipped the card into there right at them. It's like uh yeah like a ninja star

2:38:06 It's like chief revenue officer. It's another one of my favorites. What, you just sit there and count the money coming in? So the idea is to have a passport approach for IT jobs that are going allow tech and cyber workers to move between federal and commercial jobs more flexibly. Hmm... Implied in that'll be the first thing that gets hacked and implied is Implied although nuts said out loud. I think is you know We will probably take if you work for a company, and they're okay with you You won't have to do the drug test? I think that's where this is headed That's what they mean by flexible

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60 Minutes Phone Hacking and AT&T Ad Injection

A 60 Minutes report demonstrates how "ace hackers" use spoofed Wi-Fi networks to steal data from mobile phones. The hosts link this to the broader push for HTTPS encryption. They also discuss AT&T's new gigabit fiber service, which reportedly charges users an extra $60 per month to opt out of a program that allows the ISP to analyze traffic and inject its own advertisements.

60 minutes· hacking· spoofing· at&t· gigabit fiber· advertising

2:38:49 You don't want to be a little more flexible so if you're smoking weed need to be more flexible guys who are really good Good dudes named Ben. Yeah, or not all of them but lot of them are sketchy and they're very talented extremely and then one final bit i just had some animal that we had to be introduced interrupt you to three on the topic of myself latest clip which is this what was on cbs news deserve promoting was going to be on today's sixty minutes about hacking phones are which i thought it was kind of interesting but I don't know what they're up to with this report, but play the CBS phone hacking clip. But one security expert told us there are two kinds of people those who know their phones have been hacked and those whose phones have been hacked but don't know it Sharon Alfonso is investigating for this Sunday's 60 minutes Is everything hackable? Yes Everything yes if somebody tells you can't do it

2:39:50 I don't believe it. John Herring offered to prove it, so he gathered a group of ace hackers at our Las Vegas hotel each of them a specialist in cracking mobile devices and figuring out how to protect them. Hold on a second... Hello? Yeah, is this ace hackers? Ace hackers here. I need some ace hackers for this presentation i'm giving to the government Can you give me a couple hey jenny Who's available? Great we know cbs or someone I don't know who this asshole is but he wants a bunch of he wants a couple of team and an ace Do you have some with beards goatees

2:40:32 You know maybe the big beers they have beer you got some with vapes. They're not a fat guy Yeah, back up with them with a butt crack you got one of them We got a fat guy with the butt crack was very erudite He's good does he ask to gun doesn't do emacs or vim emacs are vim very important? But you know hey Jenny. You know Bruce is he max rev m VIM VIM ah no good we need an Emax guy with a neck beard Oh, jeez. You know we had a guy like that who quit to work for the Defense Department. Gathered a group of ace hackers at our Las Vegas hotel each of them a specialist in cracking mobile devices and figuring out how to protect them

2:41:13 Would you put your money in a bank that didn't test the locks on their safes? We need to try and break it to make sure that the bad guys can't. How easy is it to break the phone right now? Very easy, as you've seen pretty trivial. So do I need to connect with it? Yeah! Okay It started when we logged on to the hotel Wi-Fi. At least it looked like the hotel Wi-Fi Herring had created a ghost version basically, it's called spoofing Back up for the spoofing because man Started when we logged onto the hotel Wi-Fi at least it looked like the hotel Wi-Fi

2:41:51 Herring had created a ghost version. It's called spoofing. I mean this looks legitimate it looks very legitimate Do you think he created the name FBI van? Do you think that's what he surveillance of FBI surveillance van and this looks legitimate? It looks very legitimate, right so are you connected I am your email. You have access to my email? Yeah, it's coming through right now I actually can say now have a ride-sharing application up here all the information that's being transmitted including your account ID, your mobile phone which I just got the mobile number then more importantly i have all the credit cards associated with. Oh! I know what this is about. The hack you saw only took a matter of minutes and I was fooled by that fake Wi-Fi. This is about HTTPS everywhere. That's what this is about yeah? This is about HTTPS everywhere

2:42:47 HTTPS everywhere. Yeah, maybe yeah, and you know that I've just learned this AT&T is now they have a gigabit fiber thing that they're offering But yeah, but they're offering it at reduced price in And it's very hard actually to opt out of this that is called internet preferences So you get for $60. You get basic TV phone service and and then the gigabit The giga gets a gig bit speed But that's only if you don't opt out, and it's the opting-out cost you another $60 a month because they are going to be changing ads on the fly as They come through to your browser

2:43:33 You're gonna be hijacking the normal ads and putting their own in? Yeah, well Google is also doing this. They give you the free gigabit internet connection if you allow them to do the same and analyze you but AT&T is just blatantly saying oh we're going to replace ads This isn't it! You can't do this Yes you can of course you can do it No it disrupts the entire advertising revenue model Yeah yeah this is why it has to be done this is very good Yeah, but who owns the final piece? The publisher thinks there's this magical agreement where everybody will go, oh look at all your crap just to see your crap. They'll go, you have an agreement. Another reason that the model that we employ which is direct support instead of advertising is superior. Exactly

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Gun Manufacturer Lawsuits and Vaccine Indemnity

A judge ruled that a lawsuit against the manufacturer of the rifle used in the Newtown shooting can proceed, challenging federal protections for gun makers. Hillary Clinton claimed during the debate that the gun industry is the only one with such protections. The hosts point out that the pharmaceutical industry enjoys 100% indemnification from lawsuits related to vaccine injuries, a fact Clinton ignored.

sandy hook· gun control· hillary clinton· vaccine industry· indemnity

2:44:24 Exactly. Unless as the show goes on you hear, and you should buy some voice cuts in and takes our donation segment away I won't do this is all web stuff mainly mainly But if it's HTTPS if its encrypted then they won't be able to as far as I know they won't be able to intercept and change on-the-fly We'll see which is yeah we will see I wanted to make one comment about this issue which also came up in the debate. I forgot to clip it because Clinton lied about it, although I think CBS and ABC did had this in their news. A legal victory for families of the children killed in the Newtown Connecticut school shooting a judge has ruled their lawsuit against the company that made the rifle used in the attack

2:45:08 can proceed. The judge said a law protecting gun makers from lawsuits does not prevent the families from arguing that the semi-automatic rifle is a military weapon and should not have been sold to civilians." Military weapon... So, actually I did clip this bit from the Democratic debate but it was on my recorder so I forgot to pull it off Hillary Clinton said this is the only industry in America that enjoys this kind of protection Do you remember her saying that? No. Oh, shit I should have pulled the clip. She said it twice she said the only industry in America... Really what about the press? Well how about the pharmaceuticals with vaccines

2:45:51 Oh, yeah. They have 100% indemnification from lawsuits. Yeah. Well she's not going to mention that because she is in their pocket. So if anyone has asked about this issue the correct answer is yes we should consider that once we make sure all industry can be sued for their product including vaccine industry which by their own admission does not have 100% fail safe methods, particularly the newer vaccines. You know you get mumps vaccine you get mumps. Get measles vaccine and you get the measles! Is that now? You should be able to sue if we can do the same for gun manufacturers but I would say yes to that

CHAPTER 38 / 43 Discussion

Brexit Campaign and David Cameron YouTube Ads

British Prime Minister David Cameron is using YouTube pre-roll advertisements to urge citizens to vote against Brexit. Cameron argues that a "reformed" European Union provides greater safety and economic security for the UK. The hosts express skepticism about the "reform" buzzword and predict that the establishment will successfully rig the referendum to prevent Britain from leaving.

brexit· david cameron· european union· youtube· referendum

2:46:36 I have a clip. Well, hold on you ready for the blitz or no? No, this is too long for the Blitz. I just want to get it out of the way because it reconfirms my thesis that this came in from Gasparini who lives in England This reconfirms my thesis that Brexit is going to fail. And this shows up, apparently it's almost three minutes long and you don't have to play the whole thing but this shows up as pre-roll apparently on a lot of YouTube videos and this is Cameron on the Brexit Good afternoon last night in Brussels I set out Britain's new settlement with the European Union

2:47:18 This morning I've just chaired a meeting of the cabinet in which I updated them on the special status we have secured for Britain. And the cabinet agreed that the government's position will be to recommend that Britain remains in a reformed European Union Now, I want to speak directly to the British people to explain why They bought YouTube pre-rolls for this Yeah We are approaching one of the biggest decisions this country will face in our lifetimes whether to remain in a reformed European Union or to leave. Notice the new buzzword he likes to use. Reform? Yes, reform the European Union yeah that is new now The choice goes to the heart of the kind of country we want to be and the future that we want for our children this is about how we trade with neighboring countries to create jobs prosperity and financial security for our families

2:48:19 and it's about how we cooperate to keep our people safe and our country strong. I know there will be many passionate arguments over the months ahead, an individual cabinet ministers will have the freedom to campaign in a personal capacity as they wish but my responsibility is Prime Minister is to speak plainly about what I believe is right for our country. I do not love Brussels, I love Britain I'm the first to say that there are still many ways in which Europe needs to improve and that the task of reforming Europe does not end with yesterday's agreement. And i will never say our country couldn't survive outside Europe, we are Great Britain, we can achieve great things That is not a question in this referendum

2:49:10 The question is, will we be safer? Stronger and better off working together in a reformed Europe or out on our own. You can stop it! Yeah you know what I'm thinking... He promotes this safety thing what are they under attack?! Yes yes they're under attack yeah the Muslims! Bullcrap this guy's rigging it this whole thing is gonna they're not gonna pass it well but I gotta say One of two things must happen to change the course of the world. One of two things, and if not I'll be sad because we probably won't see any significant change in our lifetime one would be the Brexit i think that would really change... Yeah that ain't happening The other one is Trump as president! I'm doubting that too but everything else is business-as-usual

CHAPTER 39 / 43 Discussion

Frozen Turkey Assault in San Francisco

San Francisco police are investigating a bizarre assault in the Hunters Point neighborhood where a woman allegedly struck her friend with a frozen turkey. The suspect reportedly took the turkey from a freezer, used it as a weapon, and then fled the scene with the bird. The victim was treated for head and finger injuries at San Francisco General Hospital.

san francisco· assault· frozen turkey· hunters point· crime

2:50:09 Yeah, and you know here's an opportunity formed Europe. Give me a break what does that even mean? I don't know all right Sorry we're doing frozen turkey Frozen turkey, here we go. This next story is bizarre San Francisco police are investigating an unusual case of assault involving a frozen turkey They say officers were called to a home on Kirkwood Avenue in the Hunters Point area because a woman was hit on the head with a frozen turkey Officers say the two women involved were friends and that one of them grabbed the turkey from the freezer used it to hit her friend And then tried to steal it

2:50:54 And when the victim tried to stop her, police say the suspect bit her friend's finger. Very very interesting case one of a kind I can't think of an incident where i recall someone being struck with a turkey or frozen turkey especially amongst friends having such a melee over over a turkey The victim was treated for head and finger injuries at San Francisco General Hospital Police said the suspect drove off with the frozen turkey and they say when she's caught she'll face assault charges Red 33 Falkland. A United Nations Commission says the Falkland Islands should belong to Argentina British Prime Minister David Cameron dismisses these findings, the ruling harks back to a bitter and bloody war over the Falklands but has now taken on a crude

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Falkland Islands Sovereignty and UN Recommendation

A United Nations commission has recommended expanding Argentina's maritime territory in the South Atlantic, which would encompass the Falkland Islands. Prime Minister David Cameron dismissed the findings, maintaining British sovereignty over the archipelago. The decision revives long-standing tensions between Britain and Argentina over the territory, which Argentina calls the Malvinas.

falkland islands· argentina· united nations· david cameron· maritime territory

2:51:47 dimension. Argentina has never relinquished its claim to the Falkland Islands, which it calls them all Venus. The archipelago lies about 500 kilometers off the Argentine coast. Britain first asserted its sovereignty in 1833 and the islanders are descended from British settlers In 1982, Argentina occupied the Falklands with his army and Britain fought back After a 10-week long war that cost almost 1,000 lives British troops triumphantly marched into the capital Port Stanley. Argentina refused to give up its claims and kept pushing to expand its sovereignty

2:52:22 Now the UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf has recommended that Argentina's territory in the South Atlantic should be expanded by 35% to 350 nautical miles. The decision would put Argentina's maritime domain well over the current territory claimed by Britain as part of the Falklands. Buenos Aires applauded the UN recommendation. Next clip. All right, red 33! UC Davis. Newly disclosed documents show the University of California, Davis spent at least $175,000 to try to scrub the internet of criticism following that 2011 pepper spraying of student protesters by campus police. The school

CHAPTER 41 / 43 Discussion

School Privilege Forms and Diversity Education

Parents in a Florida school district expressed outrage after a middle school teacher distributed a "privilege form" asking students about their gender identity and mental health. The form included terms like "cisgender" and "genderqueer," which many 12-year-old students did not understand. The school principal launched an investigation, stating the form was not district-approved and was inappropriate for a Spanish class.

privilege· diversity· adhd· cisgender· education· spanish class

2:53:15 made national headlines after video showed police spraying seated students directly in the face at close range. The Sacramento Bee reports UC Davis paid consultants to improve its online image, in part by scrubbing negative search results related to the pepper spray incident. UC Davis is a public university supported by taxpayer money. Can I insert one? Alright, this is a teacher with privilege. The form was handed out in the Spanish class to 7th and 8th graders at the top asking how privileged are you? And i'm not even sure where that comes from Regina Stiles daughter's in the class She has ADHD and apparently the teacher said there are some kids in this class that have ADHD. ADHD is mental illness So thats why she circled it

2:54:04 And to me ADHD is not a mental illness, it's something she does have. Other sections included religion and gender where kids were asked to circle cisgender transgender or genderqueer Did she know what some of these terms meant? No She's 12 We've had the talk, but it's something that should be talked about at home. After Stiles along with several other angry parents questioned the principal he launched an investigation This is not a district form this was a teacher generated form and it was without principal consent At the district level we do not collect that kind of information The students were not required to turn in their forms The teacher says the goal was to teach them about diversity and equality To me that has nothing to do with Spanish

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Egypt Island Transfer and Public Protests

Thousands of protesters gathered in Cairo and Giza to oppose President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi's decision to hand over two Red Sea islands to Saudi Arabia. The Egyptian government claims the islands of Tiran and Sanafir belong to the Saudis, but demonstrators view the transfer as a violation of national sovereignty. Security forces used tear gas and detained over 100 people during the unrest.

egypt· saudi arabia· red sea· el-sisi· cairo· protests

2:54:48 You're here to teach my child a foreign language, not anything else. There have been angry protests in major Egyptian cities, in Giza and Alexandria and the capital Cairo where security forces detained over 100 people and fired tear gas to disperse demonstrators. The outcry is in response to a government decision to hand over two Red Sea islands to Saudi Arabia Bread, freedom. These islands are Egyptian protesters chant. Thousands gathered in Cairo and the nearby city of Giza. The first significant wave of protests since former army chief el-Sisi became president in 2014

2:55:37 Ostensibly, they're angry over El-Sisi's decision to hand over two Red Sea islands to Saudi Arabia. The Egyptian government maintains Tehran and Sanofiya belong to the Saudis who asked Egypt to protect them from Israel in 1950 but the protesters aren't buying it. TSA report is the last in the clip.

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TSA Wait Times and Afghanistan Fighting Season

Major US airports are reporting record-long TSA security lines, leading to thousands of missed flights and economic disruption. Separately, the hosts discuss the start of the "fighting season" in Afghanistan, noting its historical overlap with the poppy harvest. They conclude the show with a critique of the "broadcasting" model and a final sign-off from Austin and Silicon Valley.

tsa· airports· afghanistan· poppies· heroin· spring offensive

2:56:21 LAX today, long snaking security lines. Spring break travel wait times across the country of one two even three hours. We missed our flight and we're told there's nothing they can do. Airports are angry too a letter to TSA from Charlotte complaining of a negative economic impact of 600 missed flights. Seattle announcing it will hire 90 contractors just to help the TSA officers and the airlines, American saying nearly 6800 passengers missed flights in one week. 33! There you go it's a fine state of affairs as usual yeah we have to delve into the Egypt protest because it appears they are somewhat

2:57:13 predictive of some action that's going to take place. The public in Egypt is all bent out of shape about a lot of things Also the fighting season is starting up again, in Afghanistan and Iraq That's what they call it? The fighting season? No, because when they're picking the poppies... You're right! It coincides with the poppies Look at it in show notes I've got the poppy dates and the spring offensive from the Taliban Perfect overlap Five dollars for a balloon of heroin in the United States of America. Are we great or what? Shoot up, kids! Shoot up kids! Shoot up kids! Enjoy

2:57:55 All right, everybody. We will be back on Thursday. Please remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA we love doing this for you and we love doing it with you And coming to you from the crackpot condo housed in the skyscraper in downtown Austin Tejas FEMA region 6 In the morning everybody My name is Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I'm baffled by the traffic Which is pretty much dead stop going into San Francisco for some unknown reason? I'm John C. DeVore. I will be back on Thursday right here on no agenda. Adios, mofos! Why NPR and radio in general is you know, you're seeing it now It could take another 10 20 years before it's really completely dead Maybe there's some alternative use found for the transmitters that'll be hanging around But here's the thing people in the industry don't understand The reason why they were able to make money so fabulously for such a long time because they control the network classic Network classic Network

2:59:11 Once you put that onto the actual network, which is the internet. You cannot monetize that network. The old system was you have a network and people really can only get programming through you so they're forced into your network. Your listeners or your viewers at that point And then you control everything, so you can control advertising and how it's measured and all that bullcrap too. By the way it's not that television measuring is any better than podcast measurement We still don't know if we're actually sitting there with your eyes on the screen The network builds itself around you... ...and then it supports you in whatever way is appropriate for the community The network you have built So for us that's donations but its a lot more! That's our network

3:00:06 We've got songs, jingles, ideas inside of you. That's the new model! The only thing is it can't be completely inside out and have to take advantage of the technology. So making money in a network that's over-programmed is just not interesting enough because they're not honest They can't be honest because their sponsors aren't writers, advertisers won't call you And they're insane, they're crashing and running in slow motion. It's very very slow motion yes very very slow motion which makes it more fun to watch real time slow-motion is fantastic The problem with this thing is that now its not the business model It is the actual concept of what broadcasting and a network of networks will support you

3:01:00 There is such a huge business opportunity to facilitate supporting podcasts through your system. Just like you revolutionize the music business by burning it to the ground, you actually revolutionized something that is already smoldering and needs to catch fire. It's so obvious! Well no it's not took you 10 years give me a break. Yeah that is important Take you out of my house. Hey, take you out of MY house! I'm pretty much the worst person out.

3:02:02 The science is in! The science is unequivocal. Science! Amen, fist bump Adios mofo