Episode 794 · Thursday, 28 January 2016

Party Boat

A high-stakes debate boycott by Donald Trump reshapes the Republican primary as federal investigators and pharmaceutical lobbyists push for universal mental health screenings.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 794

About this episode

Donald Trump upends the 2016 primary cycle by boycotting the Fox News GOP debate, triggering a public feud with Roger Ailes and Megyn Kelly. The move shifts media focus toward Trump’s competing veterans' event, while analysts predict a ratings collapse for the network. Meanwhile, a Texas grand jury indicts David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt, the activists behind the Planned Parenthood undercover videos, on felony charges for tampering with government records.

In the Democratic race, Hillary Clinton faces scrutiny over scripted town hall questions involving Taylor Gipple, an employee of a major DNC contributor. Bernie Sanders continues his push for tuition-free public college, drawing attention to administrative bloat at the University of California Berkeley under Janet Napolitano. Elsewhere, a CBS investigation into the Wounded Warrior Project reveals lavish executive spending on alcohol and retreats, while the FBI faces entrapment allegations following the arrest of Sami Mohammed Hamza in a Milwaukee Masonic temple sting.

Speculation turns to the sobriety of cable news anchors as Megyn Kelly’s erratic broadcast behavior draws comparisons to past media rumors. John C. Dvorak warns against the toxic health fad of drinking live apple cider vinegar, while Adam Curry unveils a new virtual radio studio powered by Apple Core Audio. The episode concludes with a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Cavito and Sir Horatio, celebrating the global producer pool.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

Podcast Introduction, New Audio Gear Setup

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 794 of No Agenda from Austin, Texas and Northern California on January 28, 2016. The hosts discuss a major overhaul of their broadcasting equipment, noting improved audio clarity and reduced latency after three and a half years with the previous system.

adam curry· john c dvorak· austin texas· silicon valley· audio engineering· podcasting gear

00:00 Oh, oh! I didn't know this was gonna happen. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah It's Thursday January 28th 2016 and time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 7, 9 or 4 This is no agenda This new setup is so easy I can do my nails during the show. Broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas, FEMA Region 6 in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where i am doing my nails...I'm John C DeVore. Yeah that's right we'll probably talk about it in tech news but I'll say right off the bat The show could fall apart at any moment

00:45 Well, you're barely your Bluetooth is flaky. That was the... You know it's interesting where I spent Tuesday Wednesday actually Monday night all the way through last night setting up the new gear but with time we've been three and a half years since the last system was installed It's not broken so let's fix it No! What I did is... We do have..you have no idea but you sound better believe me You sound I like sounding better, and you know the delay on me hitting some of the jingles You know you've even mentioned that like my like my bell That delay is gone. It was a about a half an hour maybe a quarter second delay Your audio is crisper Mine may be a little crisper. I'm not sure no I can only you know you don't know until you know until you try it all out

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Bernie Sanders, College Education Costs, University Spending

Bernie Sanders proposed making public colleges tuition-free during a televised town hall, prompting a discussion on the rising costs of higher education. The hosts criticize the University of California Berkeley and President Janet Napolitano for administrative bloat and expensive new construction. Allegations are made regarding universities funneling money into political campaigns, specifically citing a million-dollar contribution to Barack Obama.

bernie sanders· university of california berkeley· college tuition· janet napolitano· barack obama· education reform

01:40 But I did learn a lot of things about what Macintosh, what Apple is doing with their Macs and we can talk about it. What are they doing? Well... Why don't you save it for the tech segment? We have this tech segment today?! I think we should yeah! Okay. Totally think we should man. Yeah. Whew okay so amidst all of that There were a couple things going on-I completely missed that Democratic Democrat Town Hall Who's promoting that stuff? They suck. I mean, come on! You had the one good clip from it... Actually, I pulled a couple that I thought would be worthwhile discussing what uh...? I got the one where they were the millennial comes up nervous yeah The guy is obviously stooged into doing this Which show? Nervous Wreck

02:33 And you have it there? I don't know which clip you're talking about. Oh, well that's a good question because i don't know either Let me take a look at the list Well in that case why don't I start off with uh who came up first Uh let me see Bernie Sanders My god my eyes are so bad today It's really really horrible Okay, here we go. Bernie Sanders during this town hall wasn't even a debate No It was a very strange question and answer session I was completely scripted little show is what it was John. Oh it was so fake This was Bernie Sanders who said something

03:16 I thought that was interesting. I'm pretty sure he means by saying it's what you need in today society, which I disagree with. But it is kind of a sad statement because really the education that the children in America get from college is equal to what used to be high school education. That's how I see it. Well, this kind of analogy...

04:08 It's a, yeah. It just it's fake. It's bull crap. It's not, it's just dumb people do this sort of thing all the time because all he really wants is to have everybody get when I was a kid and I was a kid, I mean, I have a college education and went to university California Berkeley. I didn't pay anything I mean, there was tuition but it's like a couple hundred bucks. It was just gratuitous. It's a state school correct? And then when you went to get books or you go to the used bookstore and buy used textbooks You didn't have to spend nowadays so textbooks are hundreds of dollars and they're all one-offs Of course! You can't use it next semester

04:47 No, because history's changed. These books should be good for decades! Oh somehow the principles of mathematics have changed every year. This is a scam. I took it to be very cynical statement so the scam is what? The way they are what Bernie Sanders wants to do would go back to when you were a kid Yes that's what Bernie Sanders wants The rest of it has become a complete money-making scam. It's a scam! They charge too much to go to these schools, there is no reason for it... They've eschewed the state... You know the state used to pay for most of it and now they don't need your money And this state kind of pulled back and said we gotta build new buildings

05:33 it's most of these universities that are the solid ones they have their set in stone. They've got a bunch of old built to last monster buildings but no we want to build new buildings so they get University California is like twice the size it was when I was a kid. It's all these new building and Janet Napolitano running this show Yeah, they're chintzy buildings. They're crappy looking. There's no architecture... The old campus beautiful architecture It was eclectic unlike Stanford which is pretty much looks like the same but Stanford didn't you know? Yeah they build new buildings too But they didn't really mess with the architecture so much it's very annoying and then in the case of the University of California Berkeley

06:12 When they solicit, you know they're always asking for money. They ask you as an alum of course... Why did they take the money that I've already given them? Why'd they take that money and give $1 million to Barack Obama? What are they doing giving a million dollars to Barack Obama? Is this some sort of extortion racket that the government's running with its colleges?! Maybe! I mean, it's gotta be. What is the point of a university giving $1 million to Barack Obama's campaign? Well you will recall that it was the military academic industrial complex... That's how it works! Alright let's start with this clip. No we're not starting yet. You're looking for the clip and I have another one. Tell me what you got. I've got Slamming Hillary

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Millennial Voters, Scripted Town Hall Questions

Hillary Clinton faced questions regarding her honesty and lack of enthusiasm among young voters during a Democratic forum. Analysis of the event suggests the interaction was scripted, identifying questioner Taylor Gipple as an employee of a major DNC contributor rather than a random undecided voter. The hosts deconstruct ABC's editing of the segment, which removed applause to portray Clinton unfavorably.

hillary clinton· taylor gipple· dnc· town hall· millennial voters· scripted media

07:05 Okay, slamming Hillary. Now, this idea I wanted at the beginning of this clip has got a meme. I didn't notice it was a meme until I was doing the clips as we... Yeah, that often happens yes? Often happens. The meme is and this isn't ABC which doesn't like Hillary so they go out of their way to slam Hillary. It's very obvious to me but the meme and its on all the networks is that they go up to somebody or find somebody

07:44 Pro Hillary right to the last minute, but now they're changing their minds. And at the one that I didn't have clipped because it was mostly visual, what I think was on CBS, they had oh here's a woman she has got a Hillary button on and she is changing her mind in the last minute. She is not so much for Hillary anymore and she shakes her head, I don't think so, I'm not going vote for Hillary then say well what your percentage? Well I think 51-49, I am gonna go You know, anybody. Okay so is that your setup? No I'm just with the beginning of this clip happened to have that little meme in there and wanted to explain it. President for both sides a last minute push to convince voters like Mary Meyers. So you caucused for Hillary in 08 and now you're undecided about her Yes why? There's just been so many issues brought to light that make you kind of second guess

08:35 In the last forum before Monday's big caucus, one young voter confronting Hillary Clinton head on. I've heard from quite a few people my age that they think you're dishonest but i'd like to hear from you and why do you feel the enthusiasm isn't there? Look, I've been around a long time people have thrown all kinds of things at me but if you're new to politics it is the first time you really paid attention you go oh my gosh all of this and you have to say to yourself, why are they throwing all that? Well I'll tell you why. Because i've been on the front lines of change and progress since I was your age." You know what, I have a little longer version of that clip and I pulled it specifically in a longer version because she had a three-and-a-half minute answer which I chopped down. I'd like to play that again What's...what I found interesting is who this kid is

09:30 Because, like the spontaneous town hall meeting that it was... The control room was very able to bring up everybody's lower third named Chiron just in seconds. It was amazing how well they did! It was astonishing! I'm telling you these guys had no idea for such an impromptu little deal This kid's name let me see he is here it is Taylor Gipple And Taylor Gippel is not just some little millennial. He works for Principal Financial Group in Iowa, and this is a huge contributor to the DNC! Huge contributor! And they just happen to have their guy there who was a millennial... if you look at his- let me see what his age is I looked him up on his LinkedIn page. He's about 30. Yeah so that's not- an older millennial

10:28 And have a listen to how she addressed him in full. That's because, uh... what's his face? Uh... Cuomo said, oh he's thinking of voting for Bernie Well let me help you up here! It feels like there's a lot of young people like myself who are very passionate supporters of Bernie Sanders and I just don't see the same enthusiasm from younger people for you. In fact, I've heard from quite a few people my age that they think you're dishonest but i'd like to hear from you on why do you feel the enthusiasm isn't there?

11:05 Well, I think it really depends upon who you're seeing and talking to. Look, I've been around a long time people have thrown all kinds of things at me And, you know I can't keep up with it. I just keep going forward they fall by the wayside they come up with these outlandish things they make these charges i just keep going forward because there's nothing to it They throw all this stuff at me and I'm still standing but if your new politics is that first time you really paid attention you go oh my gosh look at all of this! And you have to say yourself why are they throwing all that? Well tell you why Because I've been on the front lines of change and progress since I was your age.

11:54 See, as she's ramping this up to me it was so first of all we know these questions are all pre-screened everybody knows what's going on. Yeah She had this was her first question out of the gate and she wanted that specifically to address this head on and do this ramp up screaming monologue. Listen to it. The status quo time and time again I've had many many millions of dollars spent against the insurance companies, the drug companies. What? They spent millions I know she's in bed with the insurance companies yet they spend millions against her oh my goodness not just against the issue but against me and eight million kids have insurance because of that today so you got to go and if you had to give up She says that she did it Why don't you do what she wants Let her finish her rant

12:51 That's my hope for you and all the young people who are getting involved this first time. Don't get discouraged, it is hard! If it were easy... Hey, there wouldn't be any contest. But it's not easy. There are very different visions, different values, different forces at work and you have to have somebody who is a proven, proven fighter, somebody who has taken them on and won and kept going and will do that as president. That's why I hope he'll reconsider the mistakes she made. Some mistakes there. A couple of things You've got to replay the cut down version. Oh, they completely I know that's what I like so much about it they completely yes i'll get it a couple of things let's take a look at because this is a good deconstruction because this ABC again and like I said preface to work they don't like her right? So they took out all the took out the applause took out to her spiel yeah positive made her looked like an idiot Yes great! Yeah they did exactly that

13:55 Now, what really got me was this obvious flub which is just beautiful. I can see why they gave you this question. Whoa! Okay, so this is a twisted mind bender... The kid stands up, flubs says Sanders and then he's- I mean Clinton he then says Secretary Clinton and then it says I can see why they gave you this question addressing Hillary So he was given a question to ask her It's not his question. It's not his question Ugh

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Martin O'Malley, Climate Change, Green Energy Business

Democratic candidate Martin O'Malley framed climate change as the greatest business opportunity for the United States in a century. O'Malley proposed transitioning the national electric grid to 100% clean energy by 2050, claiming the plan would create five million jobs. The discussion highlights Iowa's current energy profile, where wind power accounts for approximately 35% of the state's energy.

martin o'malley· climate change· clean energy· iowa· green jobs· 2016 election

14:46 Ridiculous. I did like... If you're gonna script this thing like this and make it a giant... Get some real actors! Well, you don't know that these people are going to do it. Spend a little money people spend a little money get some actors in there. I thought O'Malley was interesting because he's probably the first politician who has said What climate change really is all about and I liked his little this was the only thing worth it from him website Martin O'Malley calm But you know what? I believe is the biggest issue That I think you should be concerned about as a young person who has more time on this planet than I do And that is climate change. I love isn't gonna get votes with this. I love his inflection He didn't say climate change said climate change that That's don't hear that often

15:34 It's about it was funny. I was watching one some show this crazy game show called Hollywood game or something and there's and the woman who is that Actress that's I can't remember her name, but she's very you know where she says Lady Gaga Hello you don't actually get outside if you say lady gaga Let's go back so climate change, not climate change. Climate change. There is a young person who has more time on this planet than I do. Climate change! And that is climate change. I'll ask it again. Does this joker think that's gonna get him votes? Well, here's what he said Hey honey we gotta get down and vote because of climate change! Well you didn't see the town hall i don't think... I did Yeah but i thought what he said after this He won't be so judgmental John Gaga And that is climate change

16:37 Climate change is the greatest business opportunity to come to the United States in a hundred years. I like that because that is the truth it is 100% business opportunity and the Democrats are all-in on the business opportunity of climate change And I am the first candidate in either party to put forward a plan to move us To 100% clean electric energy grid by 2050 and create 5 million jobs along the way. Now he's going to create five million jobs over the course of 35 years Wow! We need this guy as president

17:13 That's aggressive. It is another one of those instances, Chris where Iowa is pointing the way forward look at what you have already done in your state just look at it 30 to 35 percent of your energy now comes from clean Iowa wind. There's your clean... I was thinking the same thing Your clean Iowa wind exactly Okay then did I have something else here? We had their trustworthiness. Now, that was pretty much anything that was interesting from that rehearsal but we had a lot of other crazy things happen and one of the obviously incredibly fun for program like No Agenda is Donald Trump deciding he will not participate in the Fox hosted debate this evening. Now I have the rundown on ABC

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Donald Trump, Fox News Debate Boycott, Roger Ailes

Donald Trump announced his refusal to participate in the Fox News GOP debate, opting instead to host a competing event for veterans. Media analysts from ABC and NBC debate whether the move is petulant or a show of strength ahead of the Iowa caucus. The hosts suggest Trump's absence will significantly damage Fox News' ratings while providing free coverage for Trump on competing networks like CNN and MSNBC.

donald trump· fox news· roger ailes· megyn kelly· iowa caucus· media strategy

18:14 who, which is waffling between candidates. And um... I'm not sure what- Well before we do that, I have a 3x3- two of the three by three for us A two uh, two of a three by three so i think i get the jingle. And now it's time for Three By Three! Experiment by JCD Comparing stories from ABC CBS and NBC The never ending Three By Three! And now in its 13th month So here is ABC on Trump.

18:53 possibly or more than likely not participating in the debate. Tonight, Donald Trump in full renegade mode predicting without him no one will watch tomorrow's debate on Fox News. Fox News responded with this snarky statement we learned from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly. Trump has his own secret plan to replace the cabinet with his Twitter followers Just hours later at a news conference, Trump's fury in full frame. The GOP frontrunner eviscerating Fox News' Kelly and her boss Roger Ailes. Alright then we had NBC this is...

19:34 That Bloomberg guy, Halperin. He's on MSNBC or NBC? If Trump is running any risk it's that some voters in Iowa may say this is immature but I think that risk is relatively small particularly for the people already supporting Trump who will look at this not as a petulant move but as a move of strength. Which of course was a word that we never heard used in this entire political cycle until the Republicans started calling President Obama a petulant child, Chris Christie to be exact. So that has a very interesting connotations regarding race. That's a good catch! Yeah, well and here is... And I've heard it a couple times it's a meme you're right. And here is Chuck Todd. You know these guys actually I think they kind of like what Trump is doing here? Well they like it because it's screwing Fox obviously

20:30 Here we go. Iowans could be offended by the idea, but here's where it could be a shrewd move look debates haven't been Donald Trump's best moments the most recent debate was probably his best- What? I know he has to throw that in there He's Chuck Todd! Debate was probably as best debate- What is he talking about?! He's just talking But watch, he's going to give Trump some props. After five minutes of bashing Donald Trump for being there, what do you think the rest of the candidates are going to do? Are they going to continue after Donald Trump or are they gonna start piling on Ted Cruz and who benefits more from that. Donald Trump this could end up being a very shrewd move by the front right. A shrewd move! Shrewd move! Getting props from Chuck Todd And I'm pretty sure he's not going...I got the announcement of his event for tonight He is not gonna go to debate That is not happening

21:38 for sure. I don't think he, i don't know what they would do if he did? They said well the Fox released had a press release and they said oh no we're still you know we're still welcoming Mr Trump he's more than happy to join us but he's rented out this uh what the hall holds i think four or five thousand people some auditorium and you know look at it Fox is going to have the debate on tonight, he won't be there. CNN and MSNBC everyone's going to be covering the Trump event because they don't have the rights to air the debate so it is going to hurt them now what kills me well doesn't kill me about this which shows I think it's a premise that we came up with along time ago regarding Fox is that its run by the Democrats

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Megyn Kelly, Fox News Bias, Glenn Beck Endorsement

Glenn Beck appeared on various networks to discredit Donald Trump following his endorsement of Ted Cruz, labeling Trump a "progressive." The hosts critique Megyn Kelly's refusal to recuse herself from moderating the debate despite her public feud with Trump. They argue that Fox News, under Roger Ailes, has abandoned neutrality to actively oppose Trump's "hostile takeover" of the Republican Party.

megyn kelly· glenn beck· ted cruz· roger ailes· fox news· media bias

22:28 It's run by the Democrats and I think we have proof now because this was a complete Roger Ailes, the owner of Fox. That it was his move He's not the owner of Fox. No, but he runs the Fox. He runs the Fox! And here is Glenn Beck. They make an argument in a magazine that Ted Cruz has also made which is that you're no- Beck was on CNN with Cuomo. Beck is going everywhere now to discredit after he announced his endorsement for Ted Cruz. ...and this is the phrase, a consistent conservative... That you've changed your positions on some things over time What's your response to THAT critique? I'm sorry this isn't the wrong clip. Fuck

23:07 Here's Beck, this is the one I wanted. But when you have a guy who is angry and then has an enemies list and starts just to take people down over and over again if you disagree with him he destroys you that...if that's the mood of the country we're in more trouble than I thought Well but here's the thing Is there a little bit of reap what you sow in some of this for the GOP? That engendering , and you're disappointed. Well I'm not disappointed, i've warned against this. You go back on my shows on Fox and I warn the progressive movement and that's what this is Donald Trump is a progressive make no mistake

24:07 saying he's a Democrat pretty much. And then Ann Coulter was on MSNBC with Chris Matthews. What is going to happen here tomorrow? Will he or won't he show up Donald Trump I hope he doesn't, i mean he has established himself as the real As an aside you know Ann Coulters hair looks dynamite it so clean and fresh Have you seen Megan second iteration of her short haircut? I don't like it but I don't like But she looks like Rachel Maddow. Oh makes sense of course that's Yeah, another one we lose another one alpha dog here as if he hasn't already and look I like a lot of things about Ted Cruz but One of his Achilles heels is he does not have a sense of humor And I would ask you to imagine what if NBC?

24:57 NBC had released such a press release to a Republican candidate before a debate. It really is kind of shocking, and I think Trump is shaking up the way people look at Fox News as maybe not always our network." Why do you think Roger Ailes, who had to sign off I assume on any PR that went out. It was sarcastic as hell it made fun of Trump! It made fun of him and the front-running candidate for the Republican nomination for president it made him into sort of a little chicken and why would... just last question because I want to ask Dan a little bit here why would Roger Ailes start a fight that could cost him God 20 15 20 million people tomorrow night? Finally a good question watching

25:39 No, that's right. And that's why Trump has established himself as the alpha dog Well I suppose because Fox News...I mean I don't know if Ailes even saw it But monopolies can get arrogant and there does seem to be a little bit of arrogance here It is believed that Ailes wrote it Yes! Of course he did He wanted to undermine Trump as was his mission And Trump was already talking about maybe not showing up three days ago. Says, you know, I don't know about Megyn Kelly but then they started and then Ailes started writing these stupid little press releases. Well, I think the key to understanding this is that if this wasn't a neutral battle and you weren't correct about Fox being just anti-Trump... Yeah. ...and possibly run by the Democrats

26:34 Megan, when this first began she would have begged off. It would have put her in a great position. She would've recused herself. Imagine this is a publicity stunt for her And I'm thinking they didn't let her do this, but I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't even attempt it because this is taking one for the team. This is what you do! You come up and say well... It seems that was unfair and if you want to blast Trump just this technique would also be the way to do it I was seemingly unfair the first time, so i'm going to recuse myself from this debate. I'm gonna bring in Dana Perino or somebody else and uh... And I'll be honest about it is probably right that I do this because I really do not like Donald Trump. Yeah! I think he's a jerk That would have made her look dynamite There would be dynamite because she would then say, So I will take myself out of this and I will not be into this debate She would get everybody to come to her side

27:37 But she didn't do that. Now, why wouldn't she do that? Is she just a jerk? She wouldn't do it? She wants to fight him again?" No there's no reason in the world for her not to recuse herself. It was the setup and for Fox to say oh you can't dictate who the moderators are! You can't dictate the questions... That was pretty much their reply now well here play this clip in the middle of these clips of yours This is the Fox versus Trump, this is on CNN. Apparently you've stolen my beat and I've gone to your beat to get this sort of material. A risk! I will also say just a step back a second... This guy is basically at war with every power center in the Republican Party there was a rule in politics that you don't go to war with Fox News and Roger Ailes because that network is too powerful and too influential in Republican politics And Trump has been at war with them all season and he's winning

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

Wounded Warrior Project, Lavish Spending Allegations, Financial Audit

CBS News published an investigation into the Wounded Warrior Project, alleging out-of-control spending on staff retreats, alcohol, and executive luxuries. A review of the organization's IRS Form 990 reveals that while it raised $342 million in 2014, significant portions were spent on fundraising and administrative conferences. The hosts analyze the salaries of CEO Steven Nardizzi and COO Al Giordano, questioning the timing of the report relative to Donald Trump's veteran-focused events.

wounded warrior project· steven nardizzi· cbs news· charity fraud· veteran services· 990 forms

28:28 with the conservative intelligentsia from National Review to every conservative columnist in the opinion pages and he's winning. This is a essentially, a hostile takeover by Trump and his fans of the Republican Party that we're watching in real time." So something very interesting happened with his announcement that he will be doing a an event during the debate for veterans and wounded warriors. Now there's two things that are interesting about this one Sarah Palin messed up although she didn't say it, it was uh... It stuck to her that she was using veterans and wounded warriors not the organization but wounded warriors as a group of people

29:16 to slam the president. So Trump is very, very smart by weaving in wounded warriors and veterans. Oh but you know we're all for that just remember we're the guys who are all for them and CBS By some amazing coincidence comes out with this. With a gift of just $19 a month, you can join Wounded Warrior Project. In its commercials, Wounded Warrior Project appeals to the American public's generosity and it works. In 2014 alone the group received more than 300 million dollars in donations. Their mission is to honor and empower wounded warriors but what the public doesn't see is how they spend their money

29:57 Army Staff Sergeant Eric Millett came home from Iraq in 2006 with a bronze star and a purple heart along with a traumatic brain injury and PTSD. Initially he admired the charity's work and participated in its programs, and got a shout out from the president Then there's Staff Sergeant Eric Millett. He took a job as a public speaker with Wounded Warrior Project in 2013, but he quit after witnessing what he calls lavish spending on parties for executives and staff. We're using our injuries, our darkest days, our hardships to make money

30:34 So you can have these big parties. Let's get a Mexican mariachi band in there, let's get maracas made with the Wounded Warrior Project logo put them on every staff members desk lets get it catered lets have a big ol' party staying at a lavish hotel here at the beach here in Jacksonville One Ocean and requiring staff that lives in the area to stay at the hotel. CBS News spoke to more than 40 former employees who described a charity where spending was out of control these two former employees were so fearful of retaliation they asked us not to show their faces it was extremely extravagant dinners and alcohol

31:14 Just total access. For a charitable organization that's serving veterans, all this expense on expensive resorts and alcohol it seems... I mean it's what the military calls fraud waste and abuse So this would not be your no agenda show if we didn't go and look into the organization The timing is very interesting. I happen to have the exact same clip Except I took to play the clip a little longer than that because the best part of the clip comes after what you just stopped. Well, that's because I wanted to mention that! You mean about money? But since you're right at the point where you are, I do want to mention a couple of things...

31:50 One living at a hotel even though you live nearby is not an uncommon thing for any organize That's how it works when you're doing team building everybody says breakfast meetings and all the rest Everybody stays so that everybody Mariachi bands also not too crazy for little get-together. It's not going to crazy They also the the hotel that they saw showed inside shit, it's a piece of shit I And then they keep mentioning dinner and alcohol, alcohol, alcohol. I'm not absolutely sure what they were trying to prove with that but this was... Now they do have one good number in this thing that is kind of a jaw dropper which is the actual expense numbers But that's what I wanted to go through the 990s The rest I just want to point out when people get into that I want them to listen carefully after that When they talk about this guy their doing the hit piece on Which is this new boss

32:43 They do something very right after this and you just gotta listen to it. And here he is, they make him sound like an egomaniac because here he comes into the event Yeah, he repelling on a horse. He was on us and I segway yeah And they could and they make a big deal as though these guys coming into the event on his segue is some sort of weight waste or expensive proposition I don't know what to believe it's a million of these events are always doing shit like this It's a hit piece That's what it is okay here the numbers real quick In 2014, Wounded Warriors raised $342 million. And at the end of the year they had 248 million left over. A couple of things that you should know... Now this is a huge organization Lots of people send money to it and if you look at their charter which is probably good to read so we understand what they do I think its uh here it is

33:46 Wounded Warrior Project, Inc. is a not-for-profit 501c3 corporation incorporated February 23rd for the purposes of providing vital programs and services to severely wounded service members and veterans in order to support their transition to civilian life and well-adjusted citizens, both physically and mentally. The mission of the organization is to honor and empower wounded warriors our purpose is threefold to raise awareness... that's interesting flub awareness ...an enlist the public's aid for the needs of severely injured service men and women." So they are lobbying organization all right when you are in the lobbying business You need parties and alcohol! That's how it works That's how it works

34:24 I'm not defending them, but I too was surprised at $300 million. You couldn't see it but when they played it you can hear so we had to black them out because they were afraid of repercussions yeah this was bull! Yeah of course these two guys blacked out the CEO Steven Nardizzi what do you think he makes a non-profit? Probably two mil. No, no it's exactly on par with Planned Parenthood with Cecile Richards. Two mil? No 473 he makes four and a... That's all he makes? No wonder he has to drive his Segway! The chief operating officer 369 Okay these are reasonable fees Yeah for this size of organization now here I have Here's what they the revenue their revenue federated campaigns 4 million fundraising events 640 000

35:11 all other contributions, gift grants and similar amounts—307 million of which only 41 million comes from the United States government. So the rest they raise themselves and the people who raise that They also have $211 million in publicly traded securities. This is not uncommon for a big organization, but they certainly have more money than they seem to be able to spend or they're expecting a lot more wars and let me see the... The organization that does this I love this okay it is first of all they sent they did send some money to Europe 5.7 million dollars to Europe just for whatever doesn't specify

35:57 But the fundraising was interesting. Here it is, Creative Direct Response and I looked these guys up, Creative Direct Response is in Bowie Maryland and they do... this is all they do! They do fundraising for non-profits. They raised in 2014 with callouts and envelopes and mailings $110 million dollars and they kept 2.9 million. What a business! Great business Well, they're definitely not gouging. No no So yeah what they spend on conferences and travel? Yeah 25 million that is you know less than 10% of their overall take so And it's Wounded Warriors the whole point is to make these guys and gals you know happy integrate but I don't know In all big organizations with a lot of money there's always gonna be a whole bunch of crap going on

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

Media Network Politics, CBS Anti-Trump Bias

The hosts categorize the political leanings of major television networks, labeling CBS as a pro-Hillary Clinton operation influenced by Sumner Redstone. They suggest ABC has historically favored Jeb Bush, while NBC's ownership by Comcast reflects more conservative corporate interests. The Wounded Warrior Project "hit piece" is cited as evidence of CBS's strategic efforts to undermine Trump's campaign narrative.

cbs· viacom· sumner redstone· jeb bush· nbc· comcast· media ownership

36:56 But the way CBS positioned this and like you said... Okay, let's make sure we mention something that we've observed during starting the three by three. CBS hates Trump! And they're Democrats, and that's a Viacom or former Viacom. I guess there are still some religious people like Sumner Redstone who hate Trump. And we have... It's a Hillary operation. Yeah. And ABC is a Jeb Bush operation but Bush is out of it so they're repositioning themselves. NBC is harder to identify because they're a defense department or former defense department

37:34 Oh, a Defense Department contractor. General Electric Company NBC and now they're owned by Comcast and Comcast is conservative operation I think that this is becoming of issue within the company as we're starting to see MSNBC dissolved into different kinds of shows moving some people to Sunday getting rid of some other people Ed Schultz has done And he's working for You know where Ed Schultz turned out? Yeah RT I know, it's great. He's working for change and tips. Now you saw this package of Wounded Warriors. They had this on the shelf. It was 11 minutes!

38:20 They had this on the shelf, it was waiting. Very long! You didn't produce that in a day? No way you don't do it that quick. This was sitting on the can ready to go So they were ready because I think of Trump's wounded warriors consistently saying there are wounded warriors, wounded warriors... They had this set up It is total political move by CBS to do that He was well done. Oh, he was well done? If you didn't pay careful attention to it but it was when you started hearing about how horrible this guy was repelling down the wall and coming in on a segue Well let's play that piece where is it? That's the one that says... Right But its not at the beginning Our injuries our darkest days our hardships

39:09 Okay, let's try here. That's the nut graph as it were. Yeah, that is this far where you go once they tell you that yeah, yeah. Holy mackerel look at all the money although you're susceptible although they don't say we had all these wounded warriors coming back in that same period

39:48 That's why I went up. Now you're susceptible to... Oh, $25 million dollars? Oh no! What else could be going on there?! About the same amount... And then you can drop these little gems in there like he came in on a horse as though that was some sort of crazy expense. The same amount the group spends on combat stress recovery it's taught program Former employees say spending has skyrocketed since Stephen Nardizzi took over as CEO in 2009. Many point to the 2014 annual meeting at a luxury resort in Colorado Springs as typical of his style. His style! He rappelled down the side of building... You mean, to make a grand entrance? Yes. Yeah and he's come in on a segue

40:32 He's coming on a horse. About 500 staff members attended the four-day conference in Colorado, the price tag about three million dollars. Donors don't want you to have a $2500 barter. People can listen to the whole thing in The Show Notes Here's a $500 bar tab. This is peanuts for 300 million dollar organization And their annual meeting there one-shot meeting of all the staffers 500 people to get it would get them out of the office and you have A twenty five hundred dollar bar tab, and this is a big deal yeah It just sounds like they play it breathless its breath oh

41:10 This is the height of naivete that CBS should be ashamed of themselves for doing a piece like this. Because to make people think that, actually try and make you think that $2500 bar tab for 500 people... What's that? 5 bucks?! What is 2500 by five? 100 no 10 I don't know 5 50 I don't know. I'm looking at it 50, yes 50 bucks yeah now fifty bucks for a whole event per head and in the resort how care is an expensive what are you gonna where are you going to take these guys that holiday in? I think you've made your point

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Ronald Reagan, Democratic Roots, ISIS Military Strategy

Donald Trump defended his shifting political positions by comparing his evolution to that of Ronald Reagan, who was a liberal Democrat and Screen Actors Guild president before joining the GOP. In a separate clip, Trump criticized Lindsey Graham's military transparency, advocating for a "surprise" attack strategy against ISIS. Representative Tom Marino is also featured calling for the total elimination of ISIS members.

ronald reagan· screen actors guild· donald trump· isis· lindsey graham· tom marino

41:55 And here is an interview with Trump where I learned something. The ongoing question, of course if Trump is a Democrat? Is he the right kind of Republican? They make an argument in the magazine that Ted Cruz has also made which is that you're not and this is the phrase a consistent conservative. That you've changed your positions on some things over time what's your response to that critique? Well, usually I just evoke the name Ronald Reagan. I mean Ronald Reagan was a fairly liberal Democrat and he evolved over years and he became more and more conservative And he was not a very conservative person but he was pretty conservative and ended up being a great president

42:33 And I have evolved on many issues. Some issues are very much the same, I've been constant on many issues but uh... i have evolved in certain issues and I think it has evolved through experience and as you grow older you see things and watch things and study things but Ronald Reagan was the exact same thing he was actually much more liberal than I was He was fairly liberal as a Democrat, believe me. A lot of people don't know that and he became a fairly conservative person but he did become a great president." I didn't know that Ronald Reagan was a Democrat before you joined the Republican Party. Yeah! He was a big union guy. If it didn't start, he was the head of the Screen Actors Guild and he was a big radical Democrat in both the 30's and 40's. Up until 62'. Oh by the way it was $5.

43:19 Five five hundred people five dollars twenty-five hundred yeah, I know. Yeah Hey don't drink it all in one night Don't drink it all on one gulp people so the air was fine So five dollars a head for the alcohol tab yeah You made you've made your point. I can't get over it. I know you can but you have to Just a quick ditty from Trump since you won't be hearing from him tonight. I thought this was kind of fun. Now, bottom line? I will do a number on ISIS like you wouldn't believe but i don't want to sit here and tell you every single thing i want to do You know at some point we're warriors right? At some point you have to surprise the enemy! I mean I watch these guys like Lindsey Graham who's just not a smart person he says we have to go here with this number of people and we have to attack them from this level

44:12 Wouldn't it be nice if we could surprise them and knock the hell out of them? I just get tickled by... It wasn't quite as good as Congressman Tom Marino though. I caught this on some talk show. Here's what we have to concentrate on, and this president just will not do it We have to kill them all! We have to kill everyone in ISIS As many and as quickly as possible Oops! We got to KILL THEM John Wow Yeah, I know Last bit as far as I'm concerned for the elections 2016, there is a lot of concern about the burn.

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Bernie Sanders, Susan Sarandon, Democratic Party Chaos

Media pundits Andrea Mitchell and Chris Matthews discuss the potential for "chaos" in the Democratic Party if Bernie Sanders wins both Iowa and New Hampshire. Actress Susan Sarandon is featured introducing Sanders at a rally, emphasizing his role as a challenge to the political machine. The hosts mock the media's focus on Hillary Clinton's gender as a "firewall" against Sanders' momentum.

bernie sanders· susan sarandon· andrea mitchell· joe biden· iowa· new hampshire

44:59 A lot of concern about the burn. They would like to get this guy out of there? Oh, they do not! They do not like him here's super elite Andrea Mitchell with Matthews If Bernie Sanders and it's neck-and-neck if those kids turn out if he wins Iowa and he's gonna win New Hampshire most likely after two primary victories you're gonna see chaos on the Democratic side You're gonna see Uncle Joe Biden saying well maybe I should Well, you know this one firewall we haven't talked about And I don't know how you erect that firewall It's women. And I asked Secretary Clinton, and you know her very well... ...and I said does it surprise you or disturb you that a lot of young women don't realize what they've been through? Oh, so this is stupid is what he's saying! Okay. What she has been through?! So stupid!! A philandering husband!? Is that what she's talking about?? Yeah, I guess. Though its' been so rough for her to be a woman, to make it where she is. So rough for her. Its' been so tough. It's not easy for anybody

45:56 I don't think anyone called...I don't think the UK Parliament has had discussions about banning her from entering the country. I dunno how rough it is. Susan Sarandon jumped in! I like her as an actress, but her politics are interesting and of course- Oh yeah she's a nutcase And we know that she runs the Oscars So White nominations for actors, uh, for actresses She's on the board of governors you okay? Yeah, I thought something dropped no no and she as she had the distinct pleasure of introducing Bernie Sanders And boy. She's all in unsold and pure and we now have the opportunity to make that man our choice for the president of the United States Change is difficult and what this man is asking of us is to be the machine now and

47:00 I give you Bernie Sanders. What? You ready for it? I give you Bernie Sanders. Alright, clip of the day, clip of the day. Oh crap! It's been so long since i got one of those that wasn't even expecting it. Oh my... Let me play one more time, let me play one more time. I love that so much. He's like crying poor, poor, poor lady. I give you Bernie Sanders I give you Bernie Sanders. Keep that as an ISO. Oh, yeah, I have it as an ISO of course but i cut is an ISO expecting the ISO not expecting a clip of the day okay have a well I've got an ISO by the way hold on a second setting some stuff up here okay what's your what's your ISO my actually I think this you can use this throughout the show mm-hmm

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Ben Carson, Bill O'Reilly, History of Press Objectivity

Ben Carson discussed media unfairness with Bill O'Reilly, claiming the press has abandoned its constitutional duty to be objective. The hosts dispute the notion that the press was ever objective, citing the history of "yellow journalism" and the explicitly partisan names of early American newspapers. They argue that modern journalism schools were created to mask inherent biases rather than eliminate them.

ben carson· bill o'reilly· yellow journalism· press bias· journalism schools· media history

48:01 uh... of for throughout any show i could use it on the daily source code you should play diagram a percent and that's great analysis now here is a place where i did we lose a couple things we gotta get out of the way here one of them is or riley is there was a bit as a good analysis of any clips are just summarize on charlie rose they had scuttle guys on their about discussing Roger Ailes and everybody else in this thing going on with Trump, and Rose is getting a kick out of it. And he's almost like lively he's getting such a kick out of it This guy goes on about how? This guy was on Charlie rose goes on about how trump has been Set up by Fox to fail and yet all these theories but but Carson

48:55 Ends up on O'Reilly and they talked about O'Reilly and O'Reilly's apparently happy this guy mentioned. Oh right he's having a little feud with Kelly because she's getting all the attention and And so O'Reilly's doing what he can, so he brings Trump on the show and he brings Didi Hamon. Did he give Trump a whole bunch of advice? Tell him what to do that he's not doing right? Well, he always does that! I know... But listen to this, I thought the thing was more interesting is he had Carson on This is Carson and O'Reilly and this came out There's something that was said in here that I do want to discuss as a deconstruction because Well, play the Carson on O'Reilly clip. That's reasonable now do you believe in general the press has been fair to you? I know you've taken some hits from the left-wing press but you just expect that... But just overall do you think you've been reported on it in an accurate way

49:46 Overall, I would say no. You look at the attacks about my Yale course, about West Point, about my temper—all of which have been disproven—but do the press ever come back and say oh well we found this and that was not true? Of course not, because their narrative is that this guy is somebody that you can't trust. They want to keep that out there recognizing that most people won't go to page 26 and see what the actual deal is. But that's to be expected, because that is what has happened to our press. You know the press is the only business protected by our constitution The reason is they were supposed to be on the side of people and they were supposed to be objective By taking sides, they have completely distorted their original intent I agree 100%, great analysis This is bull crap

50:44 The press has never been objective. In fact, if you look back in history most of the newspapers were called like the Abilene Republican... Yeah they were yellow journalism is where that's where the term comes from. Yellow journalism actually came after this earlier period where you had most of the papers are named like the Press Democrat over here locally said the Democrat and Republican was in the title of the newspaper and they They were Democrats. The press Democrat at the time of its founding was solid Democrat, they were only supporting the Democrats or pushing the Democrats are pushing the Democrat agenda that's newspapers were extremely biased they weren't lacking bias they were all biased it was the reason for the uptick and all of a sudden the emergence of the journalism schools was to kind of put ahead

51:32 push Tampa down a little bit because it was out of control. These guys are full of crap historically and I find it offensive that they promote this sort of nonsense, this bullshit! You're feisty today. Yeah. Well good then let's get right into a local story from Texas. Could've given me a pet peeve on that? No...it needs to be angrier. I couldn't get Sure John, no problem. I'll edit it together in post. We'll fix it in post. It will be fine. No that's okay. We had a grand jury indictment here in Texas earlier this week of the guys who made the video at Planned Parenthood.

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Planned Parenthood, Grand Jury Indictments, Undercover Journalism

A Texas grand jury indicted the activists behind the Planned Parenthood undercover videos, David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt, while clearing the organization of wrongdoing. The activists face felony charges for tampering with government records by using fake IDs to gain access to facilities. The hosts discuss the legal implications for citizen journalists and the potential for new licensing requirements for reporters.

planned parenthood· david daleiden· grand jury· texas· undercover journalism· fake id

52:22 And I want you to explain a little bit about the grand jury process in a moment, because grand juries are also the people who have not famously not indicted white cops who have killed black kids. Even though the term in legal circles in America, I think goes, You can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich And in this case, it was great to have this indictment. This is not a verdict? This isn't an indictment? It's just an indictment. Well here-here's the piece. Salidin says their undercover techniques were the same as other investigative journalists, a point underscored by constitutional scholars like Cornell University's Michael Dorff

52:59 This could set a dangerous precedent and chill undercover investigations by legitimate journalists. The tactics are often used by so-called citizen journalists, activists from environmentalists to animal rights groups seeking to expose wrongdoing." Okay this is interesting now again it's not a verdict that is although uh Miss Richards was out everywhere celebrating like oh you know finally justice well this does not say anything And it came up on CBS this morning and Charlie Rose, who is still tired but he woke up momentarily because I think he saw that something was off with this. But of course it's CBS This Morning so they're not really discussing the true implications of this kind of movement. Planned Parenthood has been accused of illegally profiting from fetal tissue

53:48 And yet, what does this grand jury do? Well the grand jury does exactly the opposite of what was expected. The district attorney and the grand jury had the task of going after an investigating Planned Parenthood instead the grand jury two months later after considering all of the evidence comes out and indicts the people who were the pro-life people, who were the people that took the videos. Why did they indict these two individuals? The point is what they indicted them for. Thank you Charlie because they weren't indicted for all that much are really intriguing. There's a law called tampering with the government record what's the record? What you have here is a fake ID of a fake company that goes in and gets access where it wouldn't have access. Felony! Charred, they're indicted for the felony for this we're creating about a fake badge. He's also indicted for misdemeanor but is there an exception for journalists well he says there is no but I don't say there is well the law may be

54:50 say there is because we know that journalists have been able to go in undercover but we also know that there have been civil suits against journalists so his defense is look I use my first amendment right, right? I'm just like a journalist. All right. It's an interesting turn of events I don't know any journalists that use fake IDs, but maybe that's me yeah But they certainly have gone in with his insurance What?! I know by now this is where it's headed John. Laura is an idiot Here comes the licensing for being a journalist This is what its going to come down to this guy is completely a journalist he may have an agenda That's okay. It's not like other journalists don't have an agenda, but you falsified an ID

55:34 And that is tampering with government property. Well, apparently...the way I understand it could be wrong is that he took his regular driver's license like a California driver's license and put a little... Oh, that would make sense. That makes sense. Put an overlay on him. Yeah. No, he tampered with government...I mean come on! So that's tampered with government issued documents? And I'm pretty sure we've had many high-ranking highly Admire journalists who have done similar things to get a story. Whether they're biased or not is irrelevant If you say I'm a journalist, then... Anyway that's going to end. It's just going to end! And viewers might remember that Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes did something very similar in Chicago set up a sting to expose corruption use phony everything to do it Undercover journalism is usually protected this is very unusual Okay but these people are an accredited journalist who might have a problem there Oh, accredited. Accredited. If this comes back to Nancy Pelosi remember she had that law?

56:33 The bill that she wanted you have to have worked for so many years for yeah, was it Pelosi or Feinstein? I don't know one of the two. It doesn't make any difference. I think it was Feinstein but yeah Of course which is completely against the First Amendment and you know But then I know they would stands up for these things anymore I thought it was abhorrent that they pulled that stunt. Well, someone has to stand up. And I don't believe for a second by the way...I don't believe for a second because the way grand jury works is that prosecutors come in and they have pointed...they target something and then they push the grand jury to like say okay this is like an investigative body that doesn't you know you can bring people in there you can't plead the fifth or anything you have to talk when you're in there. It's almost

57:20 It's the inquisition more than anything. And so you go in there, they put some bamboo splints under your thumb and they start pounding them until you tell the truth and then you come up to the grand jury says I don't think we have enough here to go on. Okay, you can indict. They sign a little document that says you can indict now that they have the excuse to indict They don't just all of a sudden say, well we're going to indict something over here that's got nothing to do with what they were targeting. Planned Parenthood. I think this was used as an excuse that, i think the douchebag is probably the prosecutor who claims they were going after one thing... The Attorney General. State attorney of Texas! The Texas guy and now he's oh oh oh oh I didn't know this was gonna happen

58:13 The guy's a fake. Vote him out, you dumb Texans! have a message that can get the House of Representatives back. Walk government shutdown? Why are these things not resonating with the electorate and won't resonate with the people?" This may not be it. Well, first of all we need you to be messengers about what is actually going on here. That's what she wants. But apart from that... We have come forward with our middle class jumpstart. Yeah I did somewhere I had a clip of her doing that

58:49 That's a good clip. Yeah, but there's a better one because it was the whole bill I remember specifically the Pelosi. The Pelosi refines that but it was a bill and then we talked you and I talked about it that you would be eligible because you've written for a reputable organization they paid you you've done it more than eight times a month or something this is where it's going Yeah, eventually. It's gonna be a while I don't think they can get away with it that easily and i think this other thing will be overturned on appeal Oh, but actually this may be the lead in But this is an indictment you dont need to appeal an indictment yeah right, they have to...it might just thrown out but with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and your passion and say in the morning to young you John C where the c stands for court indictment Dvorak

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Underwriter Credits, Sir Tim Saunders

The hosts acknowledge the artwork for the episode, specifically a Bitcoin-themed piece by 20 Watt Bulb. They recognize TF Publishing in Groningen and Sir Tim Saunders for their financial support. The segment emphasizes the "Value for Value" model, where listeners provide the funding necessary to keep the show independent of traditional advertising.

no agenda art· bitcoin· groningen· australia· donation segment· podcast production

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CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Megyn Kelly, Intoxication Rumors, Media Personalities

The hosts speculate on Megyn Kelly's demeanor during a recent broadcast, suggesting she appeared unusually "hyped" or potentially intoxicated due to the stress of the Trump feud. They compare the situation to past rumors involving Diane Sawyer, though they admit the observation is based on subjective interpretation of her speech patterns.

megyn kelly· diane sawyer· broadcasting· media gossip· rumors

1:03:29 Hey citizens, amen. A new kind of a segment. Um, well it's not new. It's I've been just moving the personality from uh, the drunk, not drunk kind of thing. Okay? Pretty sure that I don't know for a fact and I'm not accusing her anything but Megan Kelly in the last show she did yesterday, I have a hunch that she was Because of the situation with Trump, maybe she was having a few really yes And there was your number I could have gotten a lot of different clips that may have indicated this But I do have one specific clip and then I thought really this is Megan in the bag or not in the bag Question to you. Thanks for having me This is it's fascinating to hear you know from somebody who actually knows names like Carson Let me listen again

1:04:29 I don't think so John. Let me listen. It's fascinating to hear you know from somebody who actually knows names like Carson She says is fascinating yeah, I heard her say It's fascinating to hear it's a slice. This is now. I don't think the slip now. I think she's on by Vance I think she's hyped That happens to his height that day. She's hyping she but she's slurring a lot I think it's right man, and then she says there are some women that can drink They're not like what what's her name the one that we used to target? Oh you mean? Diane Sawyer and sorry she used to have a glass of wine on the set yes with a pill well There's video of it

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Oregon Standoff, LaVoy Finicum Shooting, Eyewitness Accounts

LaVoy Finicum, a spokesman for the Oregon occupation group, was shot and killed by law enforcement during a traffic stop. Conflicting accounts emerge, with the FBI claiming Finicum reached for a weapon while an eyewitness in the vehicle, Victoria Sharp, asserts he had his hands up and was executed. The hosts note the lack of immediate transparency from federal authorities compared to other high-profile shootings.

lavoy finicum· oregon standoff· fbi· malheur national wildlife refuge· shooting· eyewitness

1:05:16 Yeah, there's videos of it. That's my favorite. But that's not really a new segment It's an old segment, I said. It was an old segment with new personalities." I'll keep an eye out. Hey so we did have some big news which is almost not discussed at all and it's not showing up on the face bag very...and of course a lot of that has to do with what the news pays attention to but you know we had a pretty big event happen up there in Oregon Yeah they gunned down those poor guys! So first of all what i'm waiting to hear

1:05:54 is, finally they fucking killed them like I said they should! No one's doing that. Strange isn't it? Everyone said we should drone them, go in with a SWAT team and kill them... Not so funny now that somebody is dead And where's the outrage? Well, the outrage should be mainly because we don't know exactly what happened Yeah, they gunned this guy down. So I have... Supposedly he had his hands in the air and hands up don't shoot is what he said and somebody thought it wasn't funny. I have a couple clips first we have the more official report that comes from soon to be defunct Al Jazeera America

1:06:33 The gentleman in question who was killed, Lavoie Finnegan. What happened on Tuesday was according to eyewitnesses that the two cars carrying these leaders of the group had been stopped by FBI and state police on the road one group One surrendered peacefully, and the other one apparently gave just let off. And the authorities gave chase after about a kilometer or so the car wound up in his snowbank and according to one of the members of the occupation group The man who was killed Lavoie Vinicum who is the de facto spokesman for the group Just got out of the car

1:07:25 and charged at the law enforcement officers uh... he had previously said um... just that the previous day that he would not go peacefully uh... he said that the authorities want to take us over and we will not let them uh... now in the uh... leader of a group but j is uh... it is in custody right now by the question is so who was leading the group inside the compound now i love how they say compound this could be his con from a shack into uh... to just a building to a compound now it's a compound here is a woman who claims that she was in the car that uh... lavoie uh... was driving and here's your account of a piece of her account before audio in the show notes seven nine or four dot no agenda notes dot com he said he could handle it you can't talk about it if you would be like that yet

1:08:22 I don't know if it's worth it. He put his hands out the window and he said, we have women in the car at least let the women get out and he stuck a towel on me shot them but they missed him or like he talked different time so you didn't hear them. So what do you mean? They're gonna shoot us. Ryan decided to get out of the car and try to go talk to them until he gets out of the car and then the guy tried to like talk I'm just gonna drive, so that's just going to talk to the sheriff. And he's like, either shoot me now or leave us alone and they were just like put your in the car and put your hands up on it all stuff. So finally, he was just driving on the floorboard and he took off and then they started shooting at us. The shots are shooting a bunch of time and then we had a roadblock set up and

1:09:22 the lane of the car with bullets. And then when we crashed, he stopped for a second and got out of the car and had his hands in the air. He's like, just shoot me then! Just shoot me! And they did. They shot him dead. They shot him right there because he was just walking with his hands in the air. I swear to God, just walking with his hands in the air. And they shot him. And after that, he fell on the ground. Shot him three more times And then they bombarded our vehicle with bullets, Ryan. I hit my shoulder." That's a little different account Yeah! Yeah... and so much for white privilege that didn't work now there is- White privilege There are two things and one is a throwback to two weeks ago A clip I didn't play because I didn't quite know what to do with it at the point

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Harney County Sheriff, FBI Undercover Activity, Oregon Militia

Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward expresses disappointment over the violent turn of the Oregon standoff, citing the stress placed on the local community. A separate account from a local fire chief describes a confrontation with undercover FBI agents who were allegedly snooping around a local armory. The hosts suggest these incidents point to the presence of agents provocateurs in the region.

sheriff dave ward· fbi· harney county· oregon· undercover agents· armory

1:10:16 at that point. Here is the sheriff, now the sheriff of course is you know he... The Sheriff is a community guy He's elected He's trying to make everything work in his community and FBI spoke they said we can't tell you anything it's an ongoing investigation You understand? We can't tell ya who got killed how he got killed or what happened Thanks FBI Doesn't sound like some other events where you have information quite quickly This is the sheriff speaking. He's... this guy is shaken up. Good morning, I'm Sheriff Dave Ward. I've been working on peaceful resolution to this problem since November 5th when several of the individuals arrested yesterday came into my office they had ultimatums that I couldn't meet. I'm here to uphold the law. I'm disappointed that a traffic stop yesterday

1:11:06 that was supposed to bring peaceful resolution to this ended badly. Multiple agencies, law enforcement agencies put a lot of work into doing putting together the best tactical plan they could to take these guys down peacefully and find some resolution to these issues that we're going through in our community. It didn't have to happen. We all make choices in life sometimes our choices go bad The occupation at the refuge and the actions of some of the folks down there have created a lot of stress in our community. It hasn't just been isolated to the refuge, I think that's a point that gets missed quite a bit Some of these folks have spent a lot of time in town trying to stir some issues within the community Okay That triggered for me A reminder about the fire chief In town who quit

1:12:00 His his position. He says this crap going on that is not okay And he's lived in that community all his life, and you just heard the sheriff say You know there's been people up here They've been here for a while and I remembered what the sheriff had said at a little impromptu press conference I'm sorry the fire chief You need to find out what your cohorts are doing At the armory Because an armory is like a gun store where you buy ammo and stuff, right? The armory. No, an armory is where the National Guard stores their weapons I think in this case they mean the Armory as it's a gun shop I think could be could be a gun shop named the Armory that would not be unusual That's what I think it is yeah You need to find out what your cohorts are doing at the Armory because there's people that have been at the Armory twice

1:12:56 They'd been turned into the police. And I thought, my gosh! So I followed the people and I stopped them or I followed them until they stopped and I got out and asked who they were? They were dishonest with me. They would not tell me what they were doing. I asked what they were doing in our armory... What they were doing Well, just two guys going through town looking for a place to have business. And I said sir typically you don't have a business in an armory Then they said, well we weren't even at the armory. And I said, I followed you brother. Then they said well yeah we were at the armory but really we were looking at the deer there's a big shooter forepoint in here not sure how often you shoot deer in an armory but...I asked them to please be truthful with me because I was trying to be truthful with them and that there is too much fear in our community push comes to shove let's just kind of get down to the end of it

1:14:04 Information I took a picture of their vehicle. They ran the license plate it came back to undercover FBI agent there you go I'm Sean cover FBI agents, and they're snooping around the armory which I don't think was a gun store It seemed like it was the armory And they were under yeah They've been and this is A couple weeks back that I got the clip and this is several weeks back when apparently this happened Sounds like a John provocateur is to me. Yeah troublemakers well if you're gonna Talk about that let's go right to the Milwaukee situation good idea six-week cycle is what it looked like to me Well, I don't believe the six week cycles and play anymore But as definitely falls into that pattern I have the I have the I have the complaint the criminal complaint shall not surprise you

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Milwaukee Terror Plot, FBI Sting, Entrapment Allegations

The FBI arrested Sami Mohammed Hamza in Milwaukee for allegedly planning a mass shooting at a Masonic temple. The hosts deconstruct the case as a classic FBI sting operation, noting that undercover informants provided the weapons and encouraged the suspect. They criticize the media for implying the target was a Jewish temple and suggest the timing is linked to upcoming political debates in the city.

sami mohammed hamza· fbi sting· milwaukee· masonic temple· entrapment· isis

1:14:56 Play the clip, then you play the complaint. Breaking headline out of Wisconsin The FBI sting and a suspect now under arrest They say he was planning to kill dozens of Americans by locking doors at a temple and opening fire So let's get right to ABC senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas working this story tonight for us Pierre David, authorities say the suspect wanted to unleash a cold-blooded massacre and spark other attacks across the country. According to the FBI, Sami Mohammed Hamza an American citizen planned to go inside a Masonic temple in Wisconsin lock the doors and gun down 30 people. Hamsi wanted to tour of the temple just last week

1:15:34 after visiting a firing range, allegedly thinking he would carry out the attack with two other radicals using three machine guns with silencers. Investigators say Hamza is caught on surveillance tape saying when we go into a room we will be killing everyone. The FBI launched this investigation in September of last year. David? Yeah well here's the official offense knowingly attempting to provide material support and resources, namely personnel to a foreign terrorist organization, namely the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant knowing that the organization was a designated terrorist organization and that organization had engaged in, and was engaging in terrorist activity...and terrorism. And of course the FBI once again just dragged this guy along even took him to the shooting range John! Let's go target shooting! The undercover informant! Yeah let's go target shooting for your little putsch there going into the Masonic Temple

1:16:33 This is entrapment. I like the way ABC kind of slanted it and i think a lot of people that temple implying Jewish temple oh very very good, I think the Temple is a Masonic Hall yeah you got to wonder what kind of messaging is there besides how ABC spawned it? I don't know where my clip is from let's see if it's different became very very evident to the FBI that The individual named in this complaint was planning a massacre at Masonic Temple here, in the city of Milwaukee. Located in downtown Milwaukee and that he had originally planned to travel to the Middle East but had changed his plans and decided to create the havoc here in the city of Milwaukee with the help of the FBI with some confidential informants they were able

1:17:22 the trust of this individual to the point where several confidential informants were accompanying him on a tour of the Masonic building, as well as putting him in contact with some FBI agents who were the ones that were selling machine guns undercover. Once he purchased those guns and based on many of the conversations and many of apprehended him and put him under arrest. Yeah, sold the machine guns to the firing range found a notebook which contained his name and The name Islamic State in Iraq and Levant Al-Qaeda in Levant the Syrian resistance and the ISIL flag was drawn on his notebook I hope they never look at the show notes We'll be incarcerated we have a guy boots on the ground in Milwaukee

1:18:20 kind of a confidential guy, he works for... Yes. He says he can give us some information but he thought it was peculiar that this took place because there's I guess a Democratic debate coming up in Milwaukee? No! I think there's a Republican debate coming up in Milwaukee. Yeah, and he just thinks the whole thing is quite fishy so uh... i'm not sure what he's going to come out with Well yeah because he's kind of deep into it so I gave him some ideas on how we could communicate safely But yeah, this was bullshit. But it's classic though is the same same pattern as some poor schlub. They got a good looking bad guy looking schlub this time and guy looks like a creep which is what you want? You know what the problem they've had in the past and I think this is a correction they make his comies got something on the ball. They made from we looked at these guys in the past ago oh my God that guy's a moron

1:19:21 Yeah. Right? Yep, right! And you go to this guy and go, ooh, this guy's a terrorist! He looks the part they casted the guy much better so congratulations to the FBI on that one I think that's an improvement. And then probably for me the most depressing news pun intended we've been following The War on Crazy for quite a long time The whole idea and it was put into the, well you'll hear this in this clip actually. You hear how the Affordable Care Act known as Obamacare was a part of it? We have consistent talk of we need to screen people for their mental hygiene... You know every clip you've got is my clip!

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Depression Screening, Government Recommendations, Pfizer Influence

A government panel recommended that all American adults, particularly pregnant women and new mothers, be screened for depression. The hosts argue that these screenings, often developed by pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer, are designed to increase drug sales and create a database to restrict gun ownership. One host takes an online screening test, which results in a "mild depression" diagnosis and a recommendation for further bipolar testing.

depression· mental health· pfizer· obamacare· gun control· screening tests

1:20:10 It's unbelievable. We didn't match up at all as covering something the other guy didn't cover it's possible that what you're gonna discuss is different, but I don't think so Well let's see we are back now with important medical news tonight about diagnosing depression an influential panel today recommended screen You have the NBC version? By the way i want to mention something here since this is doing three by three you got the nbc version That's Lester mm-hmm uh... I want you to put a stopwatch on this clip that you're gonna play? 152. Oh my god, what?! Yeah it's long. One minute? Yeah one minute and 52 seconds is long Okay play We are back now with important medical news tonight about Diagnosis... And the reason why I wanted Lester's opening on it because he says something that doesn't necessarily come back in the clip We are back now with important

1:21:02 medical news tonight about diagnosing depression. An influential panel today recommended screening every adult for depression and for the first time advised a screening not only for new mothers but also for women even before they give birth okay this is important Because the recommendation is all adults, but how do they string that up? Which is this is an outrageous attack on women. It is abuse of women what is happening right here They want to screen all expectant and new mothers Yeah for a postpartum depression which is a serious thing it happens It happens too many many women not all them want to go eat their babies

1:21:43 They have a bogus reason for this. Well, of course they want everybody to be screamed so that- That's our theory. So they can't buy guns? Yes! That is my whole point and listen to the clip how it was set up. Wait let me go back to the bogus reason way they've set this up I don't know if you know what its about. Maybe its in the clip maybe its in the clip This should be a joyous time for women but today government panel of independent experts acknowledges it may not be And recommends all women before and after birth be screened for depression, something that affects one in seven moms. Women want to have these conversations because they are recognizing themselves that something is amiss. It's so prevalent... In 2005, Brooke Shields shattered the silence on The Today Show and now on the red carpet

1:22:36 This month act- Wow, I've never heard a camera click as an interim bit in a... It's a good bit. It's very nice. But it should have been millions of these not three. Well no one- who's Brooke Shields? Who is that again? Click click click And now on the red carpet this month actress Hayden Panettiere I'd feel if i was brooke shields. I'd be pissed off hey, yeah you want to be what the barrage of click Why do I only get like a couple of clicks quick click okay move along? That's that's completely wrong how about here this is what I would do I take my cameras there we go that's my camera hello Adam curry here yes Yes, you want know something about my depression okay and now on the red carpet

1:23:26 This month actress Hayden Panettiere telling E! News she's proud to be a spokesperson after getting help following the birth of her daughter. It doesn't mean they're weak, it doesn't mean they're bad mom, it doesn't mean they are strange and that can get help if they need it How do you know what is just common baby blues and what depression? One difference doctors say is the time frame Baby blues usually happen within first two weeks of birth If severe anxiety lingers till six week mark it could be more significant. Risk factors include history of depression, prenatal anxiety and childcare stress. Now this is... I have a lot of questions about this so what they're now advocating is for doctors to ask questions that certain questions that can determine if you have depression. Doctors say family members need to be aware the issue as well If you asked your loved one do you feel like you want to harm yourself or your baby?

1:24:23 That is a question that is okay to ask. This is new, this is new what they're doing and I found a so the government panel has recommended see what's the exact wordage this series of questions, of surveys which I actually took and maybe it might be kind of fun for you to take. And i'll share my recommendation and I answered truthfully here let me just find in my email tell you because when I did these questions came out with a very interesting result

1:25:06 It's the MHA Screening MentalHealthAmerica.net and this is recommend, this is the survey recommended by this panel and when you look at the survey it's actually run by Pfizer. Pfizer wrote the survey. Well they got the pills Yeah but that's... This is obviously a problem Yeah, well they wrote the survey because they got the pills. They want to get it... make it so no matter how you fill out a survey, you've got depression and need pills! Here's my results Oh, you took it? I did Your results indicate that you may be experiencing some symptoms of mild depression

1:25:47 Uh oh. Take this gun away! While your symptoms are not likely having a major impact on your life, it is important to monitor them Would you do that for me John? Can you monitor me I've been doing that These results do no mean that you have depression but it may be time to start a conversation with your doctor Find the right treatment plan and working with your doctor, healthcare provider or a support person and- No guns for you. The depression symptoms you are experiencing may also indicate a different type of mental health problem related to bipolar disorder Oh man I'm fucked! We recommend you also take the screen for bipolar disorder to find out if your symptoms may be more similar to those experienced by people with bipolar disorder. People who struggle with... Yeah, we have pills! Yes, your point is that we have pills. But once you take this screening and once you've done that, it's it.

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Autism Spectrum, CAT Scans, Medical Over-Diagnosis

The hosts discuss the increasing frequency of autism and Asperger's diagnoses among millennials. They express skepticism toward claims that CAT scans can definitively prove a patient is on the autism spectrum, suggesting that doctors are using questionable science to push psychiatric medications and label young people with permanent disorders.

autism· asperger's syndrome· cat scan· medical diagnosis· millennials

1:26:42 Oh yeah, you're toast. You can't get a gun anymore Yeah well that's just the start That is just the start Now here is my question for you And if you want to take the test it might be kind of fun to do I'll check it out But two millennials that I know Two of them Have both received diagnoses One...I can tell you Christina received a diagnosis for Asperger I'm pretty sure my daughter doesn't have Asperger's, but okay. She just doesn't have any of those telltale signs but okay... But here is what happened and another millennial in my circle... I know with this much diagnosis no guns! Well that will be the bottom line for sure

1:27:31 But more interesting, in both cases they did a CAT scan and the doctor said the CAT scan proved that they were on the autism spectrum and had, in Christina's case, had light Asperger. I don't believe...I looked and I looked, and I guess I'm going to have to ask. I'll have to get down on my knees and ask the brain professor. I don't think there is a cut-and-dry CAT scan that can definitively say, oh we're just looking at the chemical composition of your brain you have autism! I don't think so either Yet both of them had been convinced by their doctor that the science proved they have this disorder

1:28:16 And I know we have lots of doctors out there, well no guns for sure. I know we have lots of doctors out there who know about this stuff...I need to know! Because the next thing they do just like this you go oh you have mild depression maybe bipolar and choose take that screening question and by the way we got some pills for you need treatment This is beyond outrageous It's been happening for a while. Getting back to the deconstruction, so everybody I've come to a conclusion which I have noticed this because i've been doing too much ABC coverage. ABC and ABC also had a package that went out to the locals

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Media Push for Mental Health Screening, Network Comparisons

The hosts compare how different networks covered the new depression screening recommendations. They note that ABC ran a lengthy, highly produced segment, while CBS provided a more concise report. They conclude that the heavy media push is a coordinated effort supported by pharmaceutical advertising dollars to normalize universal mental health surveillance.

abc news· cbs news· depression screening· pharmaceutical advertising· media analysis

1:28:59 So all the law this was a major major push this depression story everybody. Yeah, we're gonna do Play them just a party until you get sick of it the long form and give me the time on this What is the time that shows up on the long-form depression story local ABC 134? Okay yours was what 150 150 yep All right, start playing the 134 and see where they lead into it. Tonight there's a first-of-its kind call for doctors to routinely screen moms to be in those who have already given birth for depression. Roughly 20% of all Americans suffer from the disorder but as ABC 7 News reporter Lisa Amin Ghalishian tells us many women never get treatment

1:29:39 A government task force suggests all primary care and OBGYNs start looking for the signs of depression in pregnant and postpartum women immediately. Making this recommendation, we're putting it up in the front and saying listen this is a diagnosis, this is disease We need to embrace it like anything else But this is... The diagnosis is based on questions about how you feel This is outrageous. Now, this by the way you don't have to play anymore of that clip but I think if anything needs to be diagnosed it's the polyps in this poor reporter's voice. I would...I think i'd like to...it's very short. I'd like you to take a test with me John we have a number of you can... Let me finish my point. Sorry. Uh now give me the time on depression CBS 152

1:30:31 What? I don't understand your question. I got a clip that says depression CBS Oh, I'm sorry Depression CBS is 23 seconds That is the standard for them to weigh CBS does all its stories everybody's and this is like the rant I'm trying to finish here Yeah, I got you It's unbelievable that CBS is compressed so you get more news. I said this when I started the 3x3, and noticed it right away... The best network even though they're the Trump haters for news if you're gonna watch one station for news it's CBS! This story under this pressure doesn't need to be beaten up for two minutes Unless it's brought to you by Pfizer which the tests are brought to you by Pfizer The recommendation is pills by Pfizer

1:31:17 all of the networks get money from Pfizer. I don't think CBS gets more or less, they just do better coverage. They did this before and if you want to play it, this is the way it should have been played by everybody Today a medical advisory panel recommended that all pregnant women and new mothers be screened for depression. This is based on new evidence that suggests postpartum depression often begins during pregnancy Government researchers also suggested that all adults men and women be screened because nearly 7% of Americans suffer depression Ah, that's just about the number of people that kill themselves with a gun

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

Bipolar Disorder Screening, Online Diagnostic Tools

The hosts walk through a bipolar disorder screening survey from Mental Health America. They critique the broad nature of the questions—such as asking about periods of high energy or talkativeness—arguing that nearly anyone could be diagnosed based on such criteria. After completing the test, the host is found to be "polar negative," contrasting with his previous "mild depression" result.

bipolar disorder· mental health america· diagnostic survey· psychiatric drugs· self-testing

1:31:59 Anyway, short and sweet. Get the point across? We're done! We don't need the rest of it. I do You can choose depression screen alcohol or substance abuse screen anxiety screen youth screen bipolar screen parent's screen Yes, bipolar screen bipolar screen. Okay, let's go bipolar screening Please answer each question to the best of your ability has there ever been a period of? time when you were not yourself your usual self and You felt so good or hyper that other people thought you were not your normal self Or we're so hyper that you got into trouble yes or no Well, that's if you say yes to that. You're bipolar. That says it. We'll say no then! Is it yes or no? No is the answer. So this is all under the same heading has there ever been a period of time when you were not your usual self and you were so irritable that you shouted at people or started fights or arguments on this show twice a week Yes Has there been a case where you felt much more self-confident than usual

1:33:05 Sure, I think everyone at some point if you're playing basketball and you shoot it like a deep shot. You'd feel real good about it Yep, yep Yes, will you has there been appeared where you got much less sleep than usual and found that you really didn't miss it? I would say, at some point in my 60 plus years. Yeah sure! Of course you got that time when you like be slept three hours? No no, I go to Europe on the right sleep cycle and only get 3 hours of sleep but it's daylight out and i'm floating around... And the family complains about this. Oh you don't get jet lag. The answer is yes

1:33:52 Has there ever been a period where you were much more talkative? This, I can tell this is not going well for me. Gonna need some drugs Well remember i only got a mild diagnosis has there been a period where you were much more talkative or spoke much faster than usual Yes come on don't lie yes of course everybody has that moment Have there ever been a moment when thoughts raced through your head and you couldn't slow your mind down Skydiving yes that would happen. Uh-huh ever been appeared when you were so easily distracted I think period not it So let's say no because a problem has there been appeared when you were so easily distracted by things around you that you had trouble concentrating or staying on track

1:34:40 Yes, come on. You can't even write me if you're in a dorm or someplace and you got a guy next door playing drums John you can't even write this the the clips you can't even spell right come on This is I'm sorry that I'm doing this for you. I love you. I want to make sure I want to make sure you get the help you need Yeah has it been appeared when you had much more energy than usual? When I was younger yes as everyone appeared when you were much more active Or did more things than usual No. I'm just saying no, I know you! No... Has there ever been a period when you were much more social or outgoing than usual? For example, you telephoned friends in the middle of the night God NO! No... has there ever been a period when you were much more interested in sex than usual When I was younger Yeah but I think it's more recent, I don't think that's true Nooo! It says periods, it doesn't say recent, it doesn't say within the last if the question was worthy probably Yes, now your right! Has there ever been a period of time where you are not

1:35:37 Your usual self and you are much more interested in sex than usual. You kind of have to take the you are not your usual self Into account I guess no, I can't say that's true No There been a period when you did things that were unusual We're almost done there were unusual for you or that other people might have thought were excessive foolish or risky Yes all the time. I would think so yeah, I would hope so has ever been appeared when spending money jump jump jump Has there ever been a period when spending money got you or your family into trouble? No, that's never happened. I'm not addicted to gambling either If you checked yes to more than one of the above have several of these ever happened during the same period of time

1:36:29 So the ones you clicked yes were... That's the one, that's the gotcha question there. Well let's just be honest and let's not try to second guess this survey we know the point of this survey is to get your drugs so you said irritable and shouted much more self-confident less sleep still energetic much more talkative easily distracted I don't have all those things at once Okay thats good so we'll say no How much of a problem did any of these cause you? No problem, minor problem, moderate problem, serious problem. No problem! Have any of your blood relatives had manic depressive illness or bipolar disorder? No And finally has a health professional ever told you that you have manic depressive illness or bipolar disorder? No Then we click on the next button and then I have to do your sex male race white

1:37:25 Age was very disconcerting because I'm almost in the same category as you. If yeah, I'm 45 to 54 year 55 to 64 household income which is sad but they don't get the high choice zip code can give me your zip code or one nearby? 94706 Okay, the states... California. This is tracking- If you have the zip code the state should be automatic. How come it doesn't do that? That's shit! Are you currently or have you ever been diagnosed with a mental health condition? Nooo Which of the following populations describe you?

1:38:05 Okay. Boy, I don't know if you'll fit into any of these... Well maybe! Heart disease? I'm sorry no. Veteran or active duty military? No. Caregiver of someone living with emotional physical illness? No LGBT? No Student? No. I'm a student of life. New or expecting mother? No Do you have any of the following general health conditions heart disease diabetes Alzheimer's cancer arthritis No. COPD or other, fuck other How can Mental Health America help you? By closing shop A phone number to get immediate support Additional information about mental health You need to get this ending This is going on for too long Well I just wanted to get the last thing Well you could have filled most of this out yourself I already did it Here we go We are calculating And here Is your results

1:39:09 John C. Dvorak, you my friend are polar negative! You have little or no symptoms or bipolar disorder." Wow... Well there ya go! But what's the difference between what you do? You answered my questions with me. What did you answer differently? This is very distressing I thought it was going to be that you were totally ill and like your healthy and i'm ill Well, why are you ill? I don't know but something's wrong. You took the same test but what did you answer differently? Well i didn't take the bipolar test...I took the depression test so that's different. Oh they just decided you were bipolar No! I didn't get a bipolar diagnosis..i got a mild depression diagnosis So if you had done- Yeah well your mildly depressed let's face it you have a trailer I'm not! I am NOT depressed Dvorak

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

Host Communication Breakdown, Production Notes

A breakdown in communication occurs between the hosts regarding a production note sent via email. One host expresses frustration that a planned "joke" or segment was ruined because the other did not read the message. The exchange highlights the informal and often chaotic nature of their live production process.

podcast production· communication· show notes· internal banter

1:40:06 Stop it already. You gotta... This is no fair! I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab Yo So much for my little drama that i had set up Oh im sorry In what notes? The notes i sent you It says- What notes?! John, hold on Are you insane Well, what? You sent me a note?! I don't read any of that! It said very clearly note. I have no idea what you're talking about...I'm sorry but let's stop the donation segment What are we doing? I have no idea what your talking about We're going to do it on the next show or after because now the joke is ruined

1:41:01 I'm sorry, I do not recall any note from you. Nor is it a good idea to send me a note... Clips A and Note! I got these clips at the very end of getting ready. I didn't rea- just like clip go just get the clip Okay well whatever its not important Although would have been the highlight of this show Well why don't we? No no no no You can't do because the joke is no good Hey Matt listen Can I say something? A I am sorry B, if you want to communicate a production note... You know that this is not the way to do it. This is dumb! All I know is that this never works Well- Yes! It never works because I didn't know you sent me a note Well, I don't know what more I can do than write NOTE in the subject line Then you say before we start the show Hey did you see the note? Oh yeah well I assume I can ask you a million times about the email and you don't even open my emails! I need an ass out of you and me

1:42:00 Let's thank a few people. We do have a bunch of people that came in with 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 I feel so bad about this You should No! I should not? Yeah That's what you say no no no Sorry you're right you shouldn't feel bad you should feel fine I'm sorry i said you should feel bad it was just a joke Thank you much better Don't get depressed Thank you I feel much better don't get me depressed the show will be very hard with Jen Briney Okay, onward. John Fincham in Modesto California 12345 I'll read some of these early notes we don't have too much. Been staring at this email for more than a few minutes attempting to articulate how much the show means to me all i can come up with is a sincere thank you thanks for providing such an outstanding product week-in and week out

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Global Donor Recognition

The hosts read letters and credits from high-level donors, including John Fincham, Alan Cavito III, and Donald Borowski. The segment covers a wide range of topics from the Second Amendment to travel tips for Ljubljana, Slovenia. They thank the "global producer pool" for their contributions, which allow the show to remain free of corporate influence.

john fincham· alan cavito· donald borowski· bill of rights· slovenia· vienna

1:42:52 Your deconstruction, humor and constant entertainment has made my trips from Modesto to Los Angeles and back to see my smoking hot, hot fiancé. Yes we noticed the picture. Keep up the fantastic work! Now I think anyone driving from Modesto to Los Angeles which is a good 400 miles is... wow that's dedication Yeah, sure. I'm glad this show helps. Alan Cavito III in Midlothian Virginia, 1-2-3-4-5 the exact same amount and he has a...I guess he's become a knight? Is that what i'm seeing here? It looks like it yeah! Yeah, he says I'm up to $1100 bucks as a knight or one time donation now.

1:43:40 I don't know what we have to do to... Well, let me see. I have him on. No, I don't know what we have to so people understand the mechanisms it's all on the devorehart.org slash NA page and we talk about it all the time. You should send them a note! When you accumulate $1,000 under any circumstances five dollars a month of 10 years or whatever it is uh you can become a knight if you give us the accounting There you go. Donald Borowski in Spokane Valley, Washington 12345 and Donald Borowski... Ah this is the uh... Unfortunately we have to read these when they come in it's just a ways of rules because it's on United Federation of Planets Starfleet Command letterhead We have to read this would be a hey guys thanks for the outstanding shows of late a recent discussion

1:44:30 gun rights was a revelation to me. Key point is that gun ownership is a natural right, not granted by the government, not even granted by the Constitution but protected by the Constitution. Yes keep up the good work Sir Donald Borowski of the something, fire bottles. Fire bottles! And I implore everyone to go read the Bill of Rights each one says shall not be infringed. The right for the people to have well-armed militia that bear arms shall not be infringed so if anyone says your Second Amendment right you need to stop them and say uh... No, the Second Amendment stops the government from making any regulation it shall not be infringed

1:45:20 W a six oh mi 73 7373 all right onward Colin Sloman in London, UK $80 and apparently he has another. He is a knighthood coming up Yep, you want us to be sir Horatio of Wandsworth as he shall be yes Phil Marples $80 in new Quay Cornwall UK UK I think it's new key New Key actually New Key New Keynewke New Key yeah New Key and Nookie Yeah, Cornwall that's all the way on the west coast Yes, that's where the kids go and camp out after school is done And they have sex and parties and throw up on each other in New Key mm-hmm. That's why it's called nookie It's close enough Teagan Murray in Calgary Alberta Canada 69 16 Oh Easton Berg in or well he's at Rotterdam So I should pronounce it in boys Stein bear boy staying better You're not even trying

1:46:22 Was trying always Steinberger well he has something to say about this cat let me see what it is hello John and Adam been a regular listener since episode 162 you show me You show your show your show is the only news I can bear to listen to thank you for your set for your sanity as of right now. I am looking for a new place to stay in Rottendam broader damn, he says we're oh yeah Do you have your magnifying glass? I need it. The straightforwardness capital of Europe, so please give me and my cat Zypress some house-finding karma." We'll put that at the end. This is what we're reading it for. Ready? Yep! Also send a douchebag shout out to my friend Lars. Douchebag! He got me into the show back in 2009 and time flies. At least to my knowledge he's never donated

1:47:14 Okay, and he says dunk you belly Dutch He had double douchebag in the note William Mitchell 66 bucks black knight of sir inside mr. Sir inside sir inside jobs in Seattle Washington 66-66 Maxim Rudolph in Ljubljana Slovenia I like a he's got that birthday call it we got that on there for ya. I love Ljubljana great little town They have a nice little museum too. It's got... blah, blah, blah. Thomas Hitzler in Vienna, 642. Hey man! Don't skip over the nice little museum I like hearing about the nice little museums The Nice Little Museum has got some really famous Slovenian paintings that are remarkable and it is very nice place but i have to say this In the downtown area there is a pastry shop If you're in Ljubljana you gotta go to this pastry shop

1:48:12 And it's the, everybody knows about. It's very famous. It's outrageous! I have had pastries all over the world. Not a big pastry nut but i like pastries I have never been to a pastry shop like this. The pastries are outrageously delicious! Are they really light and flaky? Oh, it was everything whatever kind you wanted like creamy ones the gooey ones the custardy ones... I love the creamy custard. This place would drive you crazy. I asked about this and locals told me that Slovenia was actually part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and it was one of the places where the pastry were kind of invented and perfected. And because if you go next door, I hate to say this because I like Croatia too but you go to Croatia? It's like what is this?! This is terrible stuff! It was not even the same as they can't even make a pastry

1:49:07 No offense, we don't have that many Croatian donors. Thomas... but I like Croatia. Nice! Thomas Hittaler in Vienna 66-42 Austria Brian Warden in Downs Illinois 6435 Brad Lungennecker in Lancaster Pennsylvania 63 Scott Wallace and San Antonio Texas San Antoneeeeen Carl Madden in Enfield Middle Six, Sex UK 5555 Eric O'Callaghan Verona New Jersey 5555 Hey it's my old stomping grounds. Verona who was that again? Really? Verona? Yeah that's right next to Montclair yeah technically we're in Verona. Simpkin and Henley on Thames 5555 Josh McDonald double nickels on the dime

1:49:58 Matt Seaver, Knoxville Tennessee. Double nickels on the dime along with Sean Zinsmeister in San Francisco double nickels on the dime Eric Hockel in Berlin Deutschland $52 Miguel Barros in Lisbon and Barros is probably pronounced slightly different than where I pronounced it $52 Lisbon Portugal Roger Esty in Palm Harbor, Florida. $51 at William Anderson, $50 and 69 cents in Garland Texas Brian Kaufman in Phoenix Arizona 50-50 and the following donors are all $50 donors

1:50:38 Starting with David Durrell in Malton, New York. Gerald Inabonet...Inabonet? Inabonet. Inabonet. Inabonet. Inabonet. In Union South Carolina. Sir Peter Totes in UK. Ross Turpin Troy Kansas Brynn Evans in Berwick Victoria Australia Shad Rich and his buddy Bendigo, parts unknown. Donald Napier in Oviedo Florida. Alejandro Vasquez in Denver Colorado and Lauren Williams she did send a lengthy note that was handwritten not handwritten but hand typed she says I have to read this she says dear Jekyll and Hyde

1:51:26 Okay, you got me. That poor sad doe-eyed baby seal at the end of your drive newsletter got me! Nice! It was as if those big black pouty eyes and those little folded paws were saying directly to me, please Please please send your cash. I was instantly Neuro linguistically triggered it works need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water Just send your cash He goes on, I am a first time donor having listened to your show for a little over a year now. I must say that while listening to Noah Jenna before and during this period that Adam losing his wife and gaining back uh...his old pot habit has claimed combed him down considerably

1:52:15 However, the more I hear about the curry name and family background the more. I am convinced that he is a government plant Yeah, yes John are his handler? Yes well could I talk to my handler because I want more money out of the gig it's been Been listening to this show with the key you gotta change your perspective on this where they were the good guys My background, yeah. Sir Bogdano Hendro in Roanoke Virginia Benjamin Smith over here in Oakland California waving Gregory Lawrence Cortland Illinois Jason Orban in Garden Grove California and that ends our group of $50 donors and everybody else in between I want to thank all those who contributed lesser amounts

1:52:58 We do have a show coming up shortly and Sunday Devorah org slash Annie so we get our numbers up a little bit to vorac.org Slash n a that's right oh, I needed to give a karma That's what I forgot it was house buying car my thing here you go coming your way You've got karma Ah, three on the list today. We've got Colin Sloman turns 55 or turns yeah turns 55 in February 17th Maxim Rudolph says happy birthday to his sister she turns 40 on the 1st of February and James Cashin II turns 33 on January 29th Happy Birthday from all you buddies here at The Best Podcast In The Universe

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Cavito, Sir Horatio

Adam and John perform a formal knighting ceremony for Alan Cavito III and Colin Sloman (Sir Horatio of Wandsworth) for their $1,000 donations. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "Hookers and Blow" list, a humorous inventory of imaginary rewards granted to new knights of the No Agenda roundtable.

knighting ceremony· value for value· podcast community· honors· rewards

1:53:43 Alright, two nightings. For us he left there portugal because it says a bunch of communists But he also has to f the EU could you put that at the end of the show? Yeah, I'll do the long version but i'll do the jobs karma as request jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for you Okay, heard the FTE putting that in the end of show we got a couple nice ones for the end of show actually um

1:54:21 We're in the middle of our ceremony, John Knighting's ceremony. Hold on. Oh I'm sorry Yeah here is my blade they need yours where are you? Hello? Wait I gotta... it's okay got it got it Alan Camino III or II what is it II or III Stop the show stop the show! I have in The Birthdays Oh, I see what I did wrong. What'd you do? Well there was a James Cushing the second and then this Alan Cavito the third so it's my mistake oh There's a lot of guys with those little things on the end. Alright let's re-rack the tapes. Re-rack the tapes. Tape is re-racked. John places Adam places in three two

1:55:07 Ah yes, Alan Kavito the third. Please step up to the podium along with Colin Sloman! You gentlemen have contributed to best podcast in universe any amount of $1,000 or more and you are welcome at the round table I herefore and hereby pronounce the KD Sir Kavito III and Sir Horatio of Wandsworth. Gentlemen for you i have hookers n' blows rent boys n' blows rent boys n' chardonnay fry breads & fembots dramz n DMT root beer and pepperoni pizza. We've got malted barley and hops hookers in Mali, dos Equis and Dutch dominatrix ass cream with bear fillings girlfriend experience and good bourbon porn stars and pot geishas and sake vodka vanilla bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts And of course the mutton and mead is a long list well because we only had to get you got these two guys yeah two new nights and you give them all that stuff

1:56:02 Is there a problem? It seems to me you overdid it. You're over- you're too generous Well, I'll take back the porn stars and pot then how does that sound? Adam's gonna read his email Now this isn't you know...I did not get your note about whatever we were going to do earlier today People will get that on Sunday But you did copy me on a note that was sent only to you, which really made me mad. Why? You get plenty of notes that are never sent to me. Plenty! Lots! It made me mad about what he said about me behind my back Oh what'd he say? Aaron Bear I'll call him out

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

Social Justice Warriors, Danny DeVito, Racism Claims

The hosts respond to a critical email from a listener regarding their coverage of "Social Justice Warrior" topics. They discuss comments made by actor Danny DeVito, who claimed the United States is an inherently racist country following the "Oscars So White" controversy. The hosts dismiss DeVito's comments as "boring" and "dead horse" rhetoric typical of Hollywood celebrities.

danny devito· oscars· social justice warriors· racism· media criticism· aaron bear

1:56:55 Two short articles less than 10 minutes of your time. I'd like to hear what direction you choose to steer the conversation! It's more than evident that the contrarian and masturbatory AC will do nothing more than feign empathy at his performative best, or simply minimize the critique so as to avoid an honest sentiment for any number of reasons not the least of which would be pandering predominantly white audience. Let's not get too radical or unbiased here, we still have white privilege to uphold here! Go ahead prove me wrong JCD it's worth a few dollars and you know I'm good for the donations my friend!" I don't even remember getting this note Yeah you replied CCing me and your reply- And this was about the Oscars about Danny DeVito what he said? Okay... And your reply was, "'I am hoping that bullshit publicity story is dropped by us ASAP' Oh right it was the Oscar story

1:57:46 Yeah, but but voting about it and I didn't defend me you didn't defend me. It's a horrible things about me Okay, I must have read what I probably did I hate to say that I do this I do this once in awhile Somebody comes in with suggestion and as a beat is an old horse they bring in an old dead horse the way I see it And they asked me if I want to buy this old horse. And you say, let me think about it... Hello horse! Let me have a look at ya'. I look at the teeth and smell the breath and say no, this is an ol' beaten horse. This horse has been beaten. So then I don't want to deal with this horse so then I just send them a note back for some unknown reason

1:58:30 I'd let you know about it, that this request was in there. Oh! I know what it was. Remember? I put myself back in my mind... You can give me that little sound that you make when I go back in time?" Oh yes. I'm gonna go back a day in time. Wait wait wait- I gotta set the machine. What time? I'm gonna go back two days when that guy's- Here we go. So I'm back there and I get this note and this guy is bitchin'. And then I'm thinking this is a dead horse. And so then, I tell him that little note that I sent and it's bullshit we don't... hopefully won't talk about this anymore because its boring. It's a dead horse and then I said to myself, Adam's not gonna know this is the way you feel

1:59:15 that you think this is a stupid topic that we should stop talking about. So I will cc, i will move that note and let him have copy of it." Yeah! And...and I liked that but I was sure that you hadn't read that second bit and so I replied Aaron get over yourself you probably didn't even see that note although I copied you on it and then he says and then he replies only to me now he's afraid Man overboard, how does that happen? And I copy that piece about you know. I'm contrarian masturbatory I don't do anything but pander to the white privilege and I say this is why fuck you You know what I not. I think about since I'm still back in time, and I'm back in that moment Yes, I may have read that and I may have chuckled to myself instead well Let's come back to now here we go oh I was good It's a little nausea is this that's the story And then sticking to it But here's his reply and here's what you were it's cool to see that when this the swj has come out for you

2:00:14 The social justice warriors. You didn't even read his- you didn't even read what he said! And it got him all bent out of shape Aren't we the listeners overdue for an epic takedown of social justice warriors? I know i'm waiting with bated breath because my disdain for them is equal to yours if not greater mm-hmm Though mine doesn't compel me to curse them in the middle of a broadcast no less and then write it off as a byproduct plural diversity Tourette's syndrome. Value for value remains compelling, I may continue to listen but you sir leave much to be desired. I'll just leave it there as David Chip Gregory would say unless you'd like to continue this contrarian two-step." Wow! And I said... You're full of shit bigoted and chicken shit you didn't include me on your original email fuck off Oh now that I think you've dropped yourself to a lower level

2:01:07 I don't get half the email that you get. I do love doing it, I'll say. The thing that sets me off is not about what he thinks about how we speak or what we think or even my neural diversity It doesn't mind me But when you say, I may donate Fuck off! Fuck off! You shouldn't do that, its bad form I may donate... No, don't. Please go away Here's the thing that he was talking about though Danny DeVito? I think he was in Europe somewhere And uh it's unfortunate that the entire

2:01:50 country is a racist country. So this is one example of the fact that even though some people have given great performances in movies, they weren't even thought about it. We are living in a country that discriminates and and it has certain racial tendencies, which racist tendencies. And so sometimes there's manifested in things like this that it's illuminated but just generally speaking we're a racists, we're a bunch of racists. We are a bunch of races here in America what an idiot

2:02:37 My God. Well now I feel crappy that my original intent was completely plowed over by a snowplow. But in that regards, hey Danny DeVito... you know everybody's racist one way or the other. Everybody- Well I'd like to know what unracist country he can find? And I would like to point out that the Oscars are voted on by an international cast of characters not just by American white people Brits are in there. They're the racist we all know that oh yeah, absolutely So bah bah humbug I say bah humbug Bah humbug to you Yeah, bah humbug alright what do we got? But yeah wait stop stop the show Oh hold on a second Stop the show please everybody Don't worry if we go long We'll take the meal penalty Hold on stop tape You were gonna talk about your new gear. Oh yes Yes well that would actually require tech news

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Apple Core Audio, OS X Upgrades, Virtual Studio Setup

Adam Curry details the technical specifications of his new MacBook Air setup, praising Apple's "Core Audio" for allowing him to build a virtual radio studio. He explains how he replaced third-party tools like Soundflower and Quicksilver with native OS X features. The discussion also touches on the "planned obsolescence" of software and the demise of Yahoo Pipes.

apple· macbook air· core audio· soundflower· spotlight· yahoo pipes

2:03:39 You caught me off guard as usual. Tech news, okay here we go Alright tech news yeah so I decided to do something very expensive For me, and that was to not upgrade my current 2013 MacBook Air which runs the entire show but to purchase a new one Which was necessary for number of reasons. One the iOS OS X version 11 really needs a little more power and these newer MacBooks definitely have some more power

2:04:26 But I... Wait, wait. Stop since we're on tech news. Yes. May ask a question? Yeah go for it Why does the new operating system need more power that's gonna be written with more efficient code over time as it develops It's called... and you'll need actually less power It's called planned obsolescence So what they do is they put in a whole lot more wiki-wookie stuff that flies and animations which I tend to turn off immediately But yeah, it's doing a lot more. It's how... Try and load the current iOS onto an iPhone 4 even. The thing will be like molasses! So they do that but the core audio which Apple has you know it's based on a lot of open source work of course so is the entire OS 10 operating system BSD Linux or Unix I should say

2:05:20 They have done so much work and it's a core audio has been I think in their product for like 25 years And they really care about people who deal with audio video forget about it. You might as well go off and Use avid on which is also Mac based, but they don't care that much the core audio stuff is so good that Avid go mac. I'm sorry avids Mac Yeah, Avid runs on Mac. I'm pretty sure I don't think they I don't think it runs on Windows. I'm pretty sure it runs on a Mac, but it has external hardware for the processing You may be able to run in a windows. I don't know But the love that is in here from the core audio team enabled me to put two cobble together

2:06:02 so much digitally, they have now virtual device drivers which I've been using for as long as we've been doing this show. I've been using something called Soundflower which is an open source virtual device driver which works but it's sometimes the transcoding of the bits gets all crappy there are delays in how long the audio runs through the system...all that has now gone and i actually have been able to remove external devices from the whole setup So I had one USB device that I needed in order to give you your mix minus, what goes back into Skype. All because they finally did this thing called HAL, like some hardware acceleration something or other and the open source program that I used to play the jingles fit beautifully with a universal audio device all through Core Audio and they've done a couple of other things Spotlight is unbelievable

2:06:58 The speed and how it organizes the results, now that's not necessarily for looking for MP3s. I use a different program for that but everyone used to use this thing called Quicksilver so this is good to show you how silos work and big companies work. Quicksilver has been a launcher So I press the option, spacebar. The launcher comes up you type in the first couple of letters of any application or document you want to open boom it's there. Or you can tab down the list and select something else they're now doing that in Spotlight so Quicksilver no one needs that anymore. Of course they like doing that ruining little businesses although...I don't know if that's a business what it does is has to be seen how well this is executed and we've talked about before

2:07:45 The entire world of Google and internet and search will all start to show up in Spotlight. It's very impressive, very impressive along with their core audio bits. Everything else like handoff like you walk towards your laptop with your iPhone and then the message you were composing flips over to the screen screw that I don't want any of that stuff turn all of that off but this is but the new OS very very impressed in general Kind of sorry I asked Well the reason why is I'm I've accomplished something with this setup that it's been This is now our my 11th year and trying to get an entire radio studio with all the bits and bobs into a laptop With maybe one external box, and I've done it And I'm very proud and I will be making the video and having distributing the setting so anybody can do this themselves

2:08:47 Yeah, if they're nuts. Well there's a lot of people who want to have you know a good show and want it People talk a big game well It's not easy is not easy But there is no one who has this so people don't realize over some people Don't realize or maybe everybody doesn't realize that maybe a lot of people don't care which is my guess but I'm Thinking that very few people realize that this show is done on the fly when there's when we say goodbye at the end We're done, and the show gets posted. There is no work done after the well The only thing is done as we put a little oh, there's a little bit of a drop on there's a little diddy Yeah But that's just something to keep and when it comes to us just to wind down but he so here's

2:09:31 and it's still tech news. So if you're creating a podcast, and you're recording everything in Audacity, then you going back with multiple tracks and putting on EQ and compression... You're not doing it right! You're doing it wrong actually. It's too much work, and it'll sound much better if you use the full... I have constructed, cobbled together with baling wire and scotch tape a complete studio for music shows, for interview shows, talk shows— That is a lie! There was absolutely no baling wire or scotch tape involved

2:10:10 Have you ever... have you, have you ever had a virtual? Have you ever tried to create links between applications of virtual audio streams inside the kernel. Yeah I'm sure you have. iPhone! It's a no brainer. Alright everybody. I use Yahoo tubes They cancelled that Pipes that was called pipes. Why you know this is the thing it kills me about Yahoo They have these interesting little pipes it was a cool. It was a great little thing yeah, it was a little it was cool It was the greatest thing ever and people had developed all these pipes to do all kinds of crazy things And it was a great great great idea I'm great and then they just They just can't crap cuz they don't know what they're doing No kidding

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Apple Cider Vinegar, Health Fads, Heartburn Risks

The hosts discuss the health trend of drinking apple cider vinegar. John Dvorak, an amateur vinegar expert, warns that "live" vinegars containing a "mother" (acetobacter) can be toxic and cause severe, long-lasting heartburn. He advises against the practice, noting that he is currently writing a book on the subject to clarify the science of vinegar.

apple cider vinegar· health fads· acetobacter· vinegar mother· heartburn

2:11:04 Poor Marissa, I like her so much. You met her? Yeah! I met her. You have?! She's a little snooty but that-I like that! Oh you like the snooty types... Here is a question i needed to ask you because it came up with my daughter who was now convinced and the more I look at the research of the more people I see doing it adding a tablespoon of white no cider apple cider vinegar to your water and drinking Yeah, I know a lot of people that do that. Is this indeed something that can be beneficial to your health? Because you would know... You're the vinegar guy! Personally what do i think is bull crap but exactly I will refer people to one of Kareem's cookbooks and you can look him up very famous guy he says it's dangerous

2:11:58 Now the other thing I've noticed is somebody, JC's wife was a fanatic of this. Sabina which is Jay's friend she does this. Jay may do it but I don't think she'd admit to me. No! I wouldn't even admit it to you. The key to this is that you use one of these live, live vinegars which you can make yourself with some good wine if your careful and you know let the Xylan, Xylanax acetobacter get in there which is forms cellulose. So she buys this stuff that brags and there's two of them just a couple brands are live it's alive and by the way apple cider vinegar when you look at all the acetobacters out there

2:12:48 There's one for every kind of vinegar. So wine vinegar has a specific one and apple cider vinegar has a specific one, and malt vinegar the kind you use on fish and chips has a specific one, and those are the ones that contribute to the flavors and everything else, and that's the ones you're supposed to use. I am not absolutely sure that these live apple cider vinegars are using their right culture. Probably not! In fact, one of things which I have a bottle It turned and it had a xylanax growing in there, which is that vinegar mother that's that big rubbery thing. And it was inside the apple cider vinegar and I said do not use that! Right... If you ever see with that growing in there That's- that's in the bottle yeah small batch too. It shouldn't be in the bottle. It was. So then you're gonna have heartburn for a very long time. That's why I have it!! You kidding me? No! Well how do I get rid of the heartburn?!

2:13:45 You're gonna have to wait about six to nine months. Oh my okay, so I've been having Shitty heartburn ever since I drank some of that because Christina said oh you should do this all the time Wow yeah slightly toxic In fact, they've reclassified that particular bacteria. It's not even a pure acetobacter anymore. They got some new name for it and this is not to be used if you ever see that stuff growing anywhere just discard it as fast as you can hmm and people use it they exchange it I This is like there's why I'm writing the vinegar book And I never gonna finish I'm gonna have to put up your gonna finish it on your are Gonna Finish fund me now or you're Gonna finish it

2:14:31 I'm gonna finish it. And the, cause there's a new signage for Chinese New Year. Every Chinese New Year comes along and you go to Oakland and goes with the Chinese guy and we'd be looking around and get the right signage to put up in the house for Chinese New Year and it always tells ya do something. The one I had, the current signage that I have is set in Chinese that says whatever projects your starting your gonna finish and be successful. So I will be finishing this year will be the year of finishing stuff Well, then I'll let you know how the heartburn goes. Oh this is crazy! Okay here's what you have to do with that particular heartburn that comes from that stuff... It's funny This is not funny! It is funny to me Not funny to me Since we've been working together and talking about vinegar all of a sudden and bitching about that culture I was weak it was a weak moment my kids were like her dad this is good for ya whatever Yeah its good for ya Pepto-Bismo

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

NOAA Corruption, Oceanographic Research, Sex Party Scandals

An anonymous producer provides a report on the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), alleging widespread corruption and "sex parties" on research vessels. The hosts discuss a past scandal involving a NOAA "party boat" in Seattle and argue that the agency's climate change data is compromised by its internal culture of waste and lack of oversight.

noaa· climate change· oceanography· government waste· scandal· research vessels

2:15:22 Pepto, okay. Take the little pills take one every night and oh God during the day for about six to nine months I just got a couple of notes here from void zero you know his His girlfriend mother of it they have this child She's a therapist And she says this is total crap that they can determine autism by a CAT scan. Total crap! So, that's one piece of feedback but I believe her. I believe her for sure. It doesn't make sense... No But the kids are falling for it They're like oh okay yeah I need this Wellbutrin or whatever Prozac Vyvanse This is what they prescribe no kidding

2:16:10 I think you saw this note, but in case you didn't. I wanted to read a little bit of this because i would like more feedback from our global producer pool anonymous producer. I felt my duty to report on multiple topics of personal expertise in the past that's how it works and this is why we are the best podcasting universe We have the experts and we listen to the experts And don't pretend that we know more We also we are very modern. This is what the mod this is where everything's going word we and the audience are one Absolutely, that's what people like like NPR and PBS don't get no I'm currently a slave of the health industry as well as A big foundation. I heard you bring up NOAA a few times. I feel the need to comment

2:17:00 I worked as an oceanographer for a local university awhile back, NOAA, the National Oceanic Atmospheric Agency. Administration? Was our main competitor. Yeah, it was our main competitor and also a valuable resource. There's a limited amount of money that is offered every year for...and these are the people who measure the global warming just so that's what I should have prefaced this with. So NOAA even though there's questionable or questions about the numbers have they fudged them doesn't matter everyone is all in president NOAA you can't argue with NOAA So he continues, there's a limited amount of money that is offered every year for oceanographic research and NOAA is earmarked for a lot of it. Whatever scraps are left up for grabs to the rest mostly universities who have a similar agenda read climate change many times Noah ships are in an area that is of importance to a university lab And they would let us aboard to perform a parallel test The crew on these ships were frequently totally I'm reading verbatim totally fucking nuts

2:18:04 Many were career NOAA seamen, pun intended and would happily kill a new captain or superior to maintain the status quo. The crews were often incestuous literally or were easily convinced into overtly perverted sexual acts think US Navy minus any training or oversight They also had great vessels with world-class chefs and housekeeping crew unfortunately the upper management tends to be not so great And he said, you should really look into this. And man there was a huge scandal a couple of years ago that you and I missed they bought this boat up in the Seattle area it was...I think they paid like three quarter million dollars for it and they were having sex parties and having family and friends and using their credit card to fill it up for $40,000 worth of gas This Noah outfit

2:18:56 He says, please look into and ridicule this organization. This is where part of the untold trillions of the national budget ends up. It's a damn shame! The first thing they'll tell you when you get on a good research boat is rule number one... Oh, that's about video he sent where the NOAA crew were jumping off the side of the boat and then a shark grabbed onto one of them. And yeah, of course it never should have been off the boat in the first place but if you go back and look at just look at N-O-A-A partyboat Just search on that This is this is a pretty corrupt organization

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

GPS Satellite Glitch, Time Relativity, Operation Northwoods 2

A global GPS glitch caused by a 13-microsecond timing error on a decommissioned satellite led to navigation errors worldwide. The hosts discuss the "Time Nuts" mailing list and the physics of relativity as it applies to satellite synchronization. They also mention rumors of an "Operation Northwoods 2" in Europe related to the MH17 investigation.

gps· relativity· time nuts· mh17· air traffic control· europe

2:19:35 Sounds like a fun organization. Well, yeah I mean you get to go to these cool places and I'm sure they get to go to Paris. Sex parties all the time. We're in the wrong business No kidding! I mean, no agenda sex parties. That's no good. You barely have a meetup. Oh yes there are please go to meet up dot com slash no agenda. Somebody just sent an nasty note in about it. I went there and there was nothing yeah but i don't think he was looking at the right place well And then you sent me a note which i did receive uh which i dove into very deep um

2:20:11 And I don't know if it's coincidental or maybe it has to do with this. Two times in the past two weeks, once with Uber and then once when I was driving... The GPS put me in a whole different place! It was very confusing especially- One of the GPS satellites went down another one starts sending out the wrong time apparently is the same satellite And the time is important to these things. So it was off by 38 microseconds and what's interesting about this is, it actually deals with the theory of relativity because time moves faster

2:20:49 up in space, where or at what are the sea satellites? They're pretty low right there 20,000 feet. No, I don't know about 20,000 feet. There's three... We've fallen out of the sky! No it's not 20,000 feet but they move i think their time is close to 38 or 40 microseconds faster than our time here on earth And if you, so they have to have an offset sending the signal down and by being I think it was 13 microseconds off that would...and I did that calculation. That could put you in a different place on the map with a deviation of three kilometers which is about what happened to me! So couple things one what the hell happened? And I joined that stupid are you really on the time nuts mailing list

2:21:43 Time nuts. That's what it's called, is the time nuts mailing list. Somebody forwarded that to me. I'm not on the time nuts mailing list! Well, I am. I joined... You should be. It's very interesting all these these time corrections but for that to happen we really need to evaluate that infrastructure Something's up. I think so too, this is not just something that just happens. This is like that crazy thing that happened with the air traffic control in Europe and went blank for a second... Which is coming back! That story is coming back in relation to MH17 Yeah it should It's coming back And people are talking about an Operation Northwoods 2 In Europe Good

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

European Migrant Crisis, Germany Geography Correction

The hosts discuss the escalating migrant crisis in Sweden and Germany, noting reports of violence and mass deportations. They issue a correction regarding a previous statement about Germany being landlocked, clarifying that while it has a northern coastline on the North and Baltic Seas, it lacks traditional "beaches" in the sense of warm-water resorts.

sweden· germany· migrants· geography· north sea· baltic sea

2:22:33 It's about time they caught up to our show. Yeah, and on Sunday I'll have an overview of what happened in Sweden We got migrants killing people People go into jail because they beat a migrant up who was beating them up it's crazy There's a lot of crazy stuff going this through the Swedes are gonna send a bunch of guys back I want to mention that Germany is not landlocked which is a mistake. I made on the show no No, it was a mistake. I made and I didn't you made? I didn't say landlocked now I made I said well maybe you made it But I said they have no beaches That's true It's not landlocked but there's no good beach up north there where you where they have some anyway Thomas hit holler oh

2:23:11 in Vienna, Tulsa. He's right he's right I think i said they have no beaches and you said landlocked. I don't know what I was thinking. Well let me say you did it maybe you didn't. I said they had no beaches and you said landlocked and I should have said uh... No your wrong. I don't think that is the way the conversation went You know? I really don't care well we said it was landlocked and its not now we should know better yeah which I should for sure by the way we do have a Mennonite look at these notes these notes are great Brad Lungenacker Is a Mennonite. Mennonite? Yeah, he says he is. What is it- Lancaster Pennsylvania It's like an Amish... one of the Amish offshoots. Oh that's cool! Or original Amish. I sound like them. Again, I'm saying this duggin' out my ass. It's alright. Let me see..I have uh well I think something on us. Go ahead go ahead

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Oprah Winfrey, Weight Watchers, SEC Regulations

Oprah Winfrey reportedly earned $12.5 million in a single day after tweeting about her success on Weight Watchers, causing the company's stock to surge. The hosts question the legality of a major shareholder using social media to pump stock value, comparing it to past legal issues faced by Martha Stewart and 50 Cent.

oprah winfrey· weight watchers· sec· insider trading· native advertising· stock market

2:24:05 Do you want to do a, uh... Because I was irked. Oh let's play the Oprah scam! Oh i don't know about this You are taking over- we have switched beats in some crazy way haven't we? You're getting CNN and doing Oprah What's next the view? You got that view report for me next? I do Just a few words from Oprah can apparently boost a company's profits I lost 26 pounds and I have eaten bread every single day After Oprah Winfrey tweeted that message today about her success on Weight Watchers, shares in the diet company jumped more than 20 percent closing at $13.29 a share. Oprah owns Weight Watchers' shares and that single tweet earned her 12 point 5 million dollars! Wait wait wait wait... How is this legal? Well that doesn't sound legal at all It's not legal

2:24:57 Let me let me be in the hold on. Hold on, let's replay. We threw her in jail along with Martha Stewart. Let's replay just a few words from Oprah can apparently boost a company's profits. I lost 26 pounds and I have eaten bread every single day After Oprah Winfrey tweeted that message today about her success on Weight Watchers, shares in the diet company jumped more than 20 percent closing at $13.29 a share. Oprah owns Weight Watchers' shares and that single tweet earned her 12 point 5 million dollars! That is 100% illegal. As far as I can tell... And the fact she's sitting there topping 200 something pounds but she must be 250 pounds John

2:25:44 When I saw, because I saw this Weight Watchers commercial they used to be my client. Ended very badly with them by the way. Very badly. Didn't did not...because their whole operation is a scam it's not a scam but you know its shitty food with nothing in it its cardboard and they ship that to your...you know they shipped that off to you if they have for long time they've had Marie Osmond who looks dynamite Dynamite! And Oprah... How... She has dynamite looking generally She gained a little weight and she lost the weight. Yeah, it doesn't bother me. Oprah's weight doesn't bother me either but don't sit there like you're healthy woman sorry You're not does Wikipedia hold the current weight for Oprah? I don't know what Oprahs weight is and they don't care

2:26:30 What I do care about is native advertising. Well, not just native advertising...I don't think you can be a shareholder and then start doing this. No that's the point! That's what i'm wondering where's the SEC on this? It just seems egregious This has happened recently with some P Diddy or something he pulled some stuff like this. No it was uh.. I think it was 50 Cent Could have been Fiddycent. It could have been Fiddycent So now only does Wikipedia not have Oprah's height But it also does not include her weight. I feel this is wrong." Some jerk sent, put in...fudged the Wikipedia. Either I have haters and they went in there because that was 5'7". Come on! Very funny. That's not even funny. It's not funny, he's insulting you. So native advertising on ABC. ABC News. And I'm going to stop ABC News and move to CBS. I'm not gonna do all three by comparison. Hold one second John. Hold on one second. Siri how much does Oprah weigh?

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

Native Advertising, Budweiser Super Bowl Ads, Trader Joe's

The hosts analyze "native advertising" segments on ABC News, where commercial content is presented as news. They highlight a report on Trader Joe's impact on home prices and a full "D-block" segment dedicated to Budweiser's Super Bowl puppy and Clydesdale ads. John Dvorak shares an anecdote about his past work building the original Budweiser website in 1996.

native advertising· budweiser· clydesdales· trader joe's· whole foods· abc news

2:27:33 Checking. Okay, I found this on the web for how much does Oprah weigh? Oh, you're not gonna say it? Uh, Siri's gone down here... Siri is shi- Alexa does more and more! Yes, I know it's like Siri has given up. Anyway let's go on to it. She's 5'6"... Right okay. What'd she say? She's five six and weighs over 200 pounds That's not very accurate. All right, so let's go to talk a little bit just before we finish on a couple of native ads one I was blown away with because most native ads on ABC and the ABC News are in the C block second-to-the last block at the end in the segment they have this little segment that they slip these native ads it and an example of them there all about 14 15 seconds

2:28:19 I think they're buying 15 second buys and they just play it up. Play the 15-second ABC native ad. The new study about Trader Joe's and Whole Foods tonight, homes within a mile worth twice as much as the national median within two years of a Trader Joe's opening home prices surging 10% more than other neighborhoods stay tuned on that one Yeah, go live near that. Native ad right? Well although it said Trader Joe's and Whole Foods who are competitors... I think they just wanted to balance the story a little bit make it sound like you know It's a real story but then they pump pump pump Trader Joe's mm-hmm all right now I have never seen I think I've taken back I probably seen a couple of these But I've never seen one so egregious This is a native ad

2:29:07 For Budweiser and they played it in the d-block, but it wasn't only just the D block It was the entire D block you're kidding And it wasn't as though the Super Bowl is coming up where they're gonna play this advertising. They were talking about that But that's on a and CBS so this not for the Super Bowl. It's just for its a Budweiser It's got to be very expensive to play the entire D-block out with a kind of a cutesy public interest, you know feel good ad. Do you have the intro and outro to it? I have everything this is the whole ad. Hit it! Alright everybody we're coming back from commercial this is the date of ads you know what to do in 3...2... Finally tonight here just in time for the Super Bowl A star is born and the agents are already calling Here's ABC's David Wright

2:29:57 Today from Budweiser, a tantalizing tease. Could this young Clydesdale born yesterday be the star of their new Super Bowl ad? King of beers has long since softened the oompah of those classic Budweiser ads In 2013 a young foal named Hope stole the show as we watched her grow up, take her place in the team and then spot her first love in the crowd. Wow! A heartwarming reunion so successful Budweiser went with a puppy next time around. The plot line? A stray dog on the fringes of the Clydesdales Warm Springs Ranch makes new friends, who in his moment of need scare off the neighborhood bullies What's in store for the foal? Tweet from Anheuser-Busch simply says meet Mac

2:30:51 What Mac has to do with beer or football? That's another question. David Wright, ABC News New York. Max Q hard to beat the puppy last year thanks for watching here in a Wednesday night I'm David Muir I hope you see right back here tomorrow night until then goodnight How is this news? Well, I can if this was advertising age it would make some sense. I can tell you I built Budweiser dot com and bud light dot com in 1996 This is just to pile on that it's an ad, but their entire strategy is their history. The Clydesdales, the history of their ads...it's all a part of their entire messaging. It's really what they use consistently tradition you know great old values St Louis values I guess somehow. Tasteless beer! Rice beer. You know when

2:31:53 So we went there and we met with the brewmeister, and you know, got a bunch of assets digital assets to digitize. Not just assets, we had to digitize right near the St Louis brewery which is still kind of home base where Woody and Grinder...Woody being uh, the young Bush who was a moron, the one who has the dead hooker in his house And then Grindr was the old guy that's their nicknames But after work, oh let's go have a drink. And there was this one bar right across from the industrial terrain and I was with Bloom at the time and we were sitting down with Bob McCauley who had to say had a lot of vision for hiring us. And he said what do you want to drink? Oh I'd love a scotch with soda. Yeah as long as you have Budweiser that'll be okay. That's how they think

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

Australian Republic Movement, Royal Family Breakup

A movement in Australia to break away from the British monarchy and become a republic is discussed. Despite support from several state leaders, the hosts note that a public petition for the change only garnered 4,000 signatures, suggesting that the "monarchist" sentiment remains strong enough to prevent a formal split from the Queen.

australia· monarchy· queen elizabeth ii· republic· tony abbott· petition

2:32:52 You could not just drink anything you wanted, unless you had a beer with it. Well... Yeah. Pushin', pushin' pushin'. So yeah good one. It's Native Advertising what else do you expect? I'd like to know what they paid for that but that's a big Native ad and i just found out- They got the budget! There is news to be reported this is not news. Are you fooling me well here's news Here's news from down under, our friends. I think this props up every year but might as well highlight it. Australia leaders want to break up with the British royal family Good luck! All but one of a group of senior politicians supporting a push to make one of their own the country's head of state But Sydney Bureau Chief Jane Mordell says its not a done deal just yet

2:33:34 The majority of Australians are in favour of moving to a republic and having an Australian head of state. The recent polling shows 50 odd percent are in favour of such a thing, however there still are staunch monarchists in Australia our former Prime Minister Tony Abbott being one of them They point out that there's not enough of a groundswell to really push a debate right now. A public petition has only gained around 4,000 signatures! Not exactly a landslide in a country of 20 million. Wow! So this big, hey we want to be a republic screw the Brits...4,000 people

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

Joni Ernst, Tulsi Gabbard, War on Women Rhetoric

Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa is praised for her rebuttal to the "war on women" narrative, citing her own military service as a combat veteran. The hosts also discuss Representative Tulsi Gabbard and engage in a humorous tangent defining various slang terms for women of different ages, such as "MILF," "Cougar," and "Major."

joni ernst· tulsi gabbard· war on women· military veterans· politics· terminology

2:34:15 I think it's Australia Day. They do that every year, Australia Day they start talking about good luck with that the Queen's your Uber Lord and is going to be that way something happened in the Senate which I liked and I was hoping maybe we get what's the congresswoman from Hawaii who I like so much? I don't know Tabby Tably Toobly Tabba she's a veteran super cute surfer, all against tabloids. Yes, that's right. I have no idea. Yeah, that's the one although it is not she should take a cue from Joni Ernst. I think she's the senator for Iowa and she's Republican. It's Tulsi Gabbard

2:35:00 Tulsi Gabbard is- Alright, Tulsi. She's a Democrat so I would hope she would pick up on this and use this line around this political season Many of those fighting against us have claimed that our efforts to defend and protect life at all stages of development constitute a war on women! I reject that! Because I will remind them that, I am a woman and I have been to war. And let me be clear there's no war on women! That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. I like that take the war word. She is pretty... she is a character I'm surprised they haven't slapped her down Is she cute? Yeah

2:36:02 I think so, she's a good looking woman. Joni Ernst? Oh Joni Ernst is very good looking she's actually kind of borderline beautiful oh yes i know who this is She has done the rebuttal too hasn't she done the rebuttal for the... Maybe.. She did it wasn't very good She's a milf that's a milf Nash no no sorry I take that back she's a cougar No! No she can't be a cougar she's only 45 Cougars can be 45. No, cougar no! No-no-no Milf is 40...is 45. Cougar kicks in after 55 and then after that when you're near 65 you have a major Oh well let me write this down You know who told me that? Some cougar? Patricia? No she says she's a major She said she's a major Okay I stand corrected My skepticism is now eliminated

2:37:01 Now I will write it down seriously. This is what she said, she's like, I'm a major! Is that what you enlisted? This is text message, by the way. It's not like I have ongoing conversations." But she said, yeah...I'm a major. Oh what does it...she said no 45 MILF 55 Cougar 65 Major. I don't know what 75 is and I didn't ask. Yeah you probably shouldn't. But I'm sure she will tell me eventually. When she gets there she'll probably know. She may have to coin Now I do have one last clip that want to play it's kind of an interesting Because again like you said we kind of crossed over across paths today It was like not the we crossed our streams crossed basin. Yeah streams crossed so I'm on CNN mm-hmm

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

Jeannie Moos, Donald Trump, Child Supporters

CNN's Jeannie Moos produced a segment featuring young children who are enthusiastic supporters of Donald Trump. The hosts praise the high production quality of the "package," noting its clever use of historical clips and social media commentary. They debate whether the segment was intended to humiliate Trump or if it served as effective promotion.

jeannie moos· cnn· donald trump· viral videos· media production· children in politics

2:37:47 I caught this package. There's a woman, she's like an old timer that is doing the packages. Oh! I know who this is. She used to be a serious journalist now they only give her the show business things? Well this is a Trump package and Trump & Kids it's about kids who love Trump And yeah, I don't know if she was show business but you can tell she's shot and worked. Wait a minute is this the three boys? No no. Okay alright. You're not even on your own beat anymore

2:38:25 This is Aaron Burnett's show, by the way which you should be following religiously. So as they bring this package in and I have to say watching this package it's about kids...it's got story It is a fantastic package! This woman should not be working for CNN The Packaging Woman She should be on one of the networks but she's old Is that the actual job description? Packaged Woman The package woman. She should be working for one of the big networks, she is fantastic! This is a fantastic... I'm telling you it's a corny package It's about a bunch of little girls mostly giggling about how great Donald Trump is and it's meant to humiliate him But it's a fantastic- the package was- I'm watching this jaw dropped. It's a fantastic package A nine year old loses her mind at the thought of seeing some very very very famous person Who is it? Here's Jeannie Most

2:39:17 It was a reaction. Jeannie most that's the one I'm talking about, she used to be behind the desk and now all she's allowed to do is little cute tongue in cheek packages but apparently she fits in perfectly. It was a reaction best described as Trump-tastic. Guess what we're gonna do Monday? What? We are going to see Donald Trump in person, in New Hampshire! Are you serious?! Yeah Oh my word!! The prospect of seeing the Donald left nine year old Ava lovely and tears Thank you mom! Awwww

2:39:54 Donald Trump has given kids rides in his chopper. They sing him ditties When a kid asked that good question you're going to build the wall, what's it going to be? Chocolate brought him on stage. They're far from the stage when they can vote Tilly, why are you upset? What are they doing to her brain road one conator But Ava dragged her parents to the rally, not the other way around. Mom and dad hadn't even settled on a candidate! Outspoken Ava says she likes outspoken Trump. I was just like freaking out. I was so excited

2:40:42 Not to mention, I love his hair. She got him to sign her Trump is number one poster he even wrote a number one on her hand just think four years ago or making a fuss over a four-year old for having a meltdown because she was sick of politics. That's why you're crying? It'll be over soon Abby and then there was the kid who had a tantrum when Hillary announced she was running Because he thought it meant he couldn't oh, I'm gonna do it Upon watching nine-year old Ava's video, one person commented she may be one of Trumps more mature supporters. And even the Donald's opponents might agree with this. When we got in a car she said it was like going to Disney. Genie most! I love you Trump! CNN. I love you too. New York

2:41:34 Thank you. Put that in the category of things you cannot make up No, I put that in the category of things that are clip-of-the day You know what? I'm telling you saw that thing and just go hold it Well you know why gave but you know why I gave your clip of the day And because I had this clip two weeks ago We just didn't get to it. I knew it would be good It was only had a few weeks ago. I did they just ran it now repeat. Oh, it's okay It was still... Well, it was very funny. It's fantastic! Yeah the little girl she is so cute. Yeah Jeannie Moe started in 1990 with CNN. It's just too good for CNN

2:42:18 You're kidding me. All she does is this, but she's... That that I'm okay. I don't know if she did saying this that it's not a lightweight piece It's not important as not important to society But it was so well structured She had the history of this sort of thing with kids they've this it was just it was beautiful work Yeah I mean it wasn't as though, yeah okay big deal who gives a shit he looks like a Donald Trump promotion and then of course they had all these one-liners in there all these kids are crazy and what are they feeding them? And all this sort of thing. It was the package itself was so high level professional. I'll have to look into how much she does on the production

2:42:55 I don't know. She may have a producer and she or she maybe, she's not maybe just the spokesperson. She made you to be the yakker there may be a writer. She may have a team. I don't know but all I know is that this was a fantastic product. I agree. But I don't think it was really that negative towards Trump, actually. Well they tried to balance it by having these one-liners that were thrown over the screen They'd have like a torn piece of paper with some writing on it That looked like it was from a Twitter account or something It would say stuff like, more and more mature Trump supporters was the line I thought was hilarious Actually every one of the comment...negative comments Was funny Laugh out loud I love his hair! Yeah perfect

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

Obamacare Co-ops, Financial Failure, Single-Payer Healthcare

More than half of the non-profit healthcare co-ops established under the Affordable Care Act have failed, costing taxpayers billions in federal loans. The hosts argue that the current system is a "reverse Ponzi scheme" and predict that the U.S. will inevitably move toward a single-payer system, a position supported by both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.

obamacare· healthcare co-ops· bernie sanders· single-payer· insurance companies· medicare

2:43:40 Sell that stuff. That was good. and discuss something that the media will not say. You've heard it here on this show before, not unimportant. This is about the co-ops that were part of the Affordable Care Act. And the way this was supposed to work is these were organizations who are

2:44:27 selling plans in the exchange, but only based on the exchange. And they had full government backing for their finances and yeah more than half of them have failed and the actual numbers are a little alarming Of the 11 co-ops still in operation, there is reason to call their long term financial viability into question. All but two of them are losing money not a single one of them had an underwriting gain through the third quarter 2015 and as co-ops generally continue moving into weaker financial conditions several show signs of running out of money this year. CMS has actually encouraged the co-ops to cook their books with some creative accounting

2:45:12 Last year, the agency issued guidance allowing co-ops to apply surplus notes to program startup loans which essentially allowed the co-ops to record loans as assets in their financial filings. Taxpayers have been forced to foot the bill for the co-op experiment of a tune of $2.4 billion with a B in federal loans for 23 co-ops around the country And to date, more than half of the co-ops have failed while the vast majority of others are in poor financial shape. As a result hundreds of thousands of Americans have lost or will lose their health insurance and taxpayers are still on the hook." Couple trillion dollars billion dollar sorry billion dollars Yeah I know this thing's the worst scam ever yeah

2:45:58 Yeah, the insurance companies don't like these little co-ops. They're taking business away and it turns out that instead of... Now they've also got a president that works for them. Hillary's the next one? As it turns out we needed 21 million people to be insured in order for the system to work, for enough people to be paying so that other people could have coverage and only 13 million have signed up this is another epic failure yeah And what that means is premiums will go up again. Again and again and going up, yeah

2:46:33 They just went up in January. So when you see the debates and see people talking about this great health care, I'm sorry it's not. It's shitty insurance even the healthcare is no good. That's why Bernie has got the right idea and so does Trump! You have to go single payer and it's not that all of the Republicans are moaning oh a single payer thats worse thats government oh its government Of course we don't mind the government running our military but we can't have the government running medical And there will be a lot of scams and all the rest of it because of that. But, of course, Medicaid or Medicare everybody likes that which is what Bernie wants just make everyone get Medicare. Right? Then you don't pay anything and yeah, you have to raise taxes but you won't raise taxes as much as people are paying in this bullshit health care scams. The scam is so obvious what it is because these guys go before Congress and they testify. You can go cut before Congress

2:47:23 and testify. We only...we, the insurance companies are doing the public affair we only take 2%, we only make 2% profit. And they maybe only make 2% profit but by jacking up everything because of the drug companies are in cahoots with them so you've jacked all the prices. Not just that John but there're only I think two Big holding companies who own all the hospitals of course but the 2% of is a fine thing to say Except two percent when they began was maybe two percent of a billion now. It's two percent of ten billion, right? Which is a bigger number I mean The whole thing is that is upon it's like a reverse Ponzi scheme The public is getting screwed and we've gone beyond the point of no return We have to go to single-payer now. We can't go back. We can't

2:48:12 Go back to the old ways because everything's all screwed up by these insurance companies. They have to be shut down Yeah, single-paying is with single pair of the government says no we're not paying $500 for a prescription for a two dollar pill right it's not gonna pay it you hope that's what you hope You hope that's what the government says Well, the government is more likely to do it than insurance companies. And you gotta say govment? Govment. Whatever the case it's too late now we have to go single parent and that's the end and Trump will do it so will Sanders Hillary won't because she's in pocket of insurance companies even though she denies as you had on that other clip Yeah If they're fighting me those insurance company people they hate me Alright unless you got another clip you wanna play I think we should

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

Donald Trump, Iowa Ground Game, Podcast Outro

As the show concludes, the hosts discuss Donald Trump's "ground game" in Iowa, noting he hired Chuck Laudner, the strategist responsible for Rick Santorum's 2012 victory. They predict that the Fox News debate ratings will collapse without Trump. The episode ends with final sign-offs and a reminder of the upcoming Sunday show.

donald trump· chuck laudner· iowa caucus· vanity fair· rick santorum· predictions

2:49:07 Well, I was just gonna see how long you were gonna go since we're way over and we didn't inform the affiliates. We're not way over! You are not? We're at 249 but i do have an end of show thing so...I-i do have some stuff to do. Well let me see what I got left Oh, I do have one thing There ya go, I knew it I was gonna save this clip and one of the people out there you should look this up and put in the show notes. There was a hit piece that ran in Vanity Fair That was a beautiful one. As hit pieces go, this was a fantastic hit piece on Donald Trump and it was the guy who apparently had interviewed Trump I don't know 15 years ago or longer for Playboy for the Playboy interview

2:49:56 And he found Trump to be a boorish A-hole. And so, he writes this hit piece which is mostly his anecdotes about what a jerk Trump is and it's very well written, it's very professional but it's a hit piece And there's this thing that Trump keeps bringing up and it brought to mind this particular situation where Trump keeps saying, and the defenders of Trump say this. Well Donald is going to get the best people. He's gonna get the best people. Right Carl Icahn and... Icahn he's always dropping names he's gonna get these people and that people Tim Collins

2:50:32 I was thinking of when, I worked for Halsey Miner for a while. Ah Mr. Siena, yeah! I was there at the start...I was there at the same time Yes that's where we met Yep and Halsey had this same basic theory he would..and every time i talked to him about something he'd say I said who is going to get do the networking? He says well I did some research and found out the absolute best networking guy in fact it's the guy who wrote the protocols Oh one of those yeah yeah That Silicon Valley speak Yeah we have the number one guy But he had the number one guy. And so I'm thinking Trump is of this sort of ilk and I was thinking, well is there any proof that Trump's big? He made a lot of money... Then I ran into this offbeat clip and nobody chimed in about how interesting this was but this clip is about the Iowa

2:51:21 I who does hire the best. on the ground games. Getting people from their homes to the caucuses? Absolutely, and that's not just everybody at the top there are people that are at the bottom of these polls And that is a question about Donald Trump because he has had so many Iowans show up in these events but they're quite... The question was does he have the ground game or organization to get them into the caucuses what say you? Here is the reason for this couple reasons first of all That is Europeanism I want to point out But Riley does it He is the one who does it What say you? That's Germanic for Wat zeg jij

2:52:22 What do you, what's the idea? I find it offensive. Yeah it's a Nazi talk. The caucuses would say you. Donald Trump's campaign manager is Chuck Laudner. Chuck Laudner's claim to fame is basically Rick Santorum's victory in the Iowa caucus. So he knows what he's doing? Absolutely, I mean when you think of Chuck Laudner, you literally think of a ground game so he's prepared. There's no way he can't be. He was the guy who had Santorum win! In Iowa which was a huge surprise at that time

2:53:03 And now he's working for Trump. And now take into account that Trump has got his goombas on the ground... Hey! You don't like this sign, do you? This is the wrong sign you've gotten. You're Uziad. Uziad is not good looking with this sign We're putting this sign in for ya Right?! Riiight?? Any predictions? Let's talk predictions, John. I was just going to ask... The only thing i'm gonna ask is ratings for the Fox News GOP debate tonight sans Trump. I think the ratings are going to be close to what they were with Trump and they're gonna drop fast

2:53:44 You mean a drop-off after the first half hour, then it'll drop off into nothing yeah Yeah I agree but already they were down to what? 15 16 million on the last one down to 15. Yeah 15 So also up start off around 14 then go down to sub 10 yeah, that's good for and all say 14 down to 6 It's gonna completely, everyone will watch for the first few minutes then they're going to switch channels and watch the Trump event on the other channels. Well in Iowa for sure if they even show him here I don't know. Oh are you kidding me? Everyone is going to be live!

2:54:22 CNN, MSNBC... they're all gonna be live at the Trump event. Come on! This is television 101! You're right. That's what we do. Screw Fox We have a meeting John let's see Fox has the debate tonight Trump is not participating he's doing his own event should we cover it? Okay exactly Yes they'll all cover it But those of you within The Sound Of My Voice who are listening to this live on the program you don't have to watch we'll do that for you That's the beauty of our deal. We do that heavy lifting for sure Get back to your own beats Beats? Yeah, CNN Oh well you both get out of my beat I had to cover somebody's butt for him coming over to the triple three Whatever we call it 3x3 Branding my friend is all about the brand Alright everybody

2:55:25 Enjoy the rest of your week. We will return debate tonight. You know, yeah we'll talk about this on Sunday when the fallout is and then of course in Monday's the actual voting in Iowa, which will be I guess interesting. Coming to you from the skyscraper here in downtown Austin the crackpot condo in the morning everybody my name is Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I wasn't doing something earlier and now I'm not absolutely sure what I am talking about I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on NO Agenda I'll see you.

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End of Show Mix, Ant Anecdote, ISIS Clip

The final segments consist of a chaotic audio mix featuring a story about Argentine ants in a kitchen, repeated clips of Bernie Sanders and Tom Marino, and various show jingles. The hosts provide a final "fist bump" and sign off with their traditional "Adios mofo" catchphrase.

ants· isis· bernie sanders· audio mix· comedy· sign-off

2:56:32 But there's enough soil, these ants don't need a lot. There is enough soil in the soil in the soil that's called siege mode. What other modes do your ants have? Well they have snake attack, that's called siege mode. What other modes do your ants have? They can treat it for people who are especially on the west coast, you know these arctinian ants and this trick does indeed work so one of the things that the ants will in the kitchen is that they'll send a scout 1, 2 or 3 or 4 scouts out. Every single time every single time. For people with special needs let's go search for your first tinny ants and end this trick. Those districters have a trick for people with special needs let's go search for your first tinny ants and end this trick those districters when they find something they go back and report back next thing there was a line of these guys just along the steps shit it's lit it's light yeah with uh...it has a bendy some of them bends I recommend the metal bendys cause then you can let in spiders jeeps and you see em' you find all the ones that are on ya please torture em

2:57:22 And you leave him there. Wouldn't one of those crackheads be better? I give you Bernie Sanders! But here's what we have to concentrate on, and this president just will not do it... We have to kill them all. We have to kill everyone in ISIS as many and as quickly as possible. Suckin' and soot! Suckin' and soot! Suckin' and soot! Oh, I'm dying to get 100%. I think that's great analysis. This is a woman... This is gonna be so mu-mu-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-muh-

2:59:08 Right, drill down from behind that choppy heart. Eee-ha! Eee-ha! Eee-ha! Yeah! Right wingin', bitter clingin' rock and rollers, polaroid pop! She's working, this is a woman power And his passion is his money, um, and he's trumpeter They're not trumpeters Enough of the GOP machine Thank you, thank you! Eee-ha! Eee-ha! Yeah! Right wingin', God in our religion Uh huh! Yeah!

3:00:02 Our guns are gone, our hands are standing. Well Trump... I want to thank you very much Thank you Joe. Thank you And wash your hands after touching any raw meat. I agree 100% think that's great analysis Adios mofo The best podcast in the universe Sevorac dot org slash NA Amen fist bump