Episode 784 · Thursday, 31 December 2015

Hot Rhetoric

Political rhetoric reaches a fever pitch as world leaders and tech giants clash over recruitment videos, pageant blunders, and the future of digital encryption.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 784

About this episode

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton trade sharp barbs over national security as the 2015 holiday season concludes. Clinton alleges that ISIS is utilizing Trump's rhetoric in recruitment videos, a claim the SITE Intelligence Group and ABC News reporter John Karl find no evidence for. Trump counters by mocking Clinton's primary losses and her debate performance while criticizing the Obama administration's nuclear deal with Iran.

Steve Harvey faces intense scrutiny following the Miss Universe 2015 broadcast error where he mistakenly crowned Miss Colombia instead of Miss Philippines. The production, now owned by William Morris Entertainment, featured contestants answering political questions on U.S. military bases and gun control. Meanwhile, Apple CEO Tim Cook defends the company's encryption policies on 60 Minutes, rejecting government backdoors and dismissing accusations of overseas tax avoidance as political theater.

Carly Fiorina suggests the government utilize Palantir Technologies for data analytics, narrowly avoiding a controversial historical analogy regarding IBM. The episode features a heated art war between producers NickTheRat and PewDiePie, while Sir Fudge Fountain is elevated to the Baron of Ann Arbor during the Christmas Eve knighting ceremony. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the media's selective reporting on East Coast record warmth versus historical 1955 weather data.


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CHAPTER 01 / 59 Discussion

Christmas Eve Broadcast, Trump and Putin Promotion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 784 of the No Agenda Show on December 24, 2015. The hosts exchange holiday greetings from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley while addressing chat room comments regarding their coverage of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

adam curry· john c dvorak· christmas eve· austin· silicon valley· donald trump· vladimir putin

00:00 Hey, I don't- when you show up for a Christmas show... You gotta show. Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Thursday December 24th 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 784! This is no agenda Celebrating a man with a white beard selling camels. Broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in Fever Region 6, Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and for Northern Silicon Valley where it's actually been raining for a couple of days and my guess we need it...I'm John C. Dvorak Merry Christmas John merry Christmas to you and merry Christmas all the listeners and producers too and producers And oh, and the family of no agenda the new agenda family the Knights in the dames yeah, and everybody behind-the-scenes Oh my goodness now we're getting good spam in the chat room

01:00 But I apparently suck roosters. Why? I don't know, because we promote Trump and Putin. We promote Trump and Putin. Trump and Putin. The Trump and Putin Show! I'm Adam Trump. I am John Putin. Think we need a beer where do we get? You didn't bring your beer no come on you've been bringing your beer for the past three episodes I don't have any more cans of anything. I'm gonna drink mine then the shores are washing in Yes, it's malt liquor baby nothing like it on the podcast

CHAPTER 02 / 59 Discussion

Miss Universe 2015, Donald Trump Co-Winner Suggestion

Donald Trump suggests that Miss Universe 2015 should have named co-winners following the live broadcast error where the wrong contestant was crowned. Trump, who recently sold the pageant franchise to William Morris Entertainment, criticizes the handling of the event after host Steve Harvey mistakenly announced Miss Colombia as the winner instead of Miss Philippines.

miss universe 2015· steve harvey· donald trump· colombia· philippines· william morris entertainment

01:59 All right. Well, of course most deconstruction news I have programs etc will start with the big global news of the day here on The No Agenda Show Of course we view worldly events in a different light through media and sometimes popular culture on the beat as usual That's my cue I'm awake on the beat as usual ladies and gentlemen with a report from the scandal Known as Miss Universe 2015 John C. Dvorak yeah here I am all right So now you didn't even want to watch this thing and boy are we happy it would have been a huge blunder Yeah, that would have been bad so you watched in real lifetime or tape delay? I taped away tape do it alright

02:48 That way I could plow through the commercials. There's way too many and it broke a number of things we predicted were gonna happen, didn't happen at all because Trump doesn't even own the thing anymore." How did we miss this that he sold the whole operation? Well, I know that after they banned...they wouldn't play his shows so he sold them I have a snap with Miss USA if you remember they didn't put it on TV. That's right Yeah, I didn't know that he had sold the whole franchise though that he sold everything yeah I have a little Donald Trump clip With his latest suggestion from this morning if you want me to bring that in and then you can retroactively go off Perfect well It was something I guess that can happen Steve Harvey is a great guy like the way he got out

03:34 Steve Harvey is a jerk. He's not a great guy. The worst host ever! Steve Harvey is an income poop, is what you want to say? It certainly was terrible for the young woman from Columbia but things happen it's live television and the new owner owners are tremendous people. Tremendous! And frankly, it's William Morris Entertainment. They're tremendous losers is what they are. I owned it for 15 years and I sold it and you know they gave me so much that I said come on we have to make this. Everyone says well you have to do something If you still owned it and you were sitting there as this happened what would Donald Trump have done?

04:13 yeah and i know they're going to be calling me today is that we got a call scheduled what would i do i i tell you what i think i do i think it may come up a winner will be very cool make him a co-worker because what happened to the girl from columbia's devastating to give it to her for couple of minutes and then take away i think any other whole country in the last year we had a young woman also from colombia the entire country I mean, they took like a vacation for about a week. The whole country was wild so you could imagine what happened. I would say this...I would recommend that they go have a beautiful ceremony which is good for the brand and good from his universe and do a co-winner. Oh yeah! Co-winner! But it was tough. Who comes up with this? Co-Winner?!

CHAPTER 03 / 59 Discussion

Perez Hilton, Miss Universe Ownership Insult

Perez Hilton, serving as a judge for Miss Universe 2015, delivers a televised insult directed at former owner Donald Trump. The hosts analyze the reaction of the production staff and host Steve Harvey to the comment, suggesting a "curse" began on the production immediately following the slight against the former owner.

perez hilton· miss universe· donald trump· steve harvey· pageant judging

04:56 That's dumb. Well, I don't know dumb or not All I know is that he's full of crap about this all this entire This exposition he just gave now a bit real pretty happy for the owners The owners are great people if the owners were great people they wouldn't have put up with or allowed The following clip which isn't Perez Hilton clip They're introducing the judges and here Perez Hilton of all people is one of the judges needs And he's been a judge on Miss USA for years at Trump's behest ready Yeah, and Perez you've been a judge from his USA But this is your first time here. Is this the right one to make sure? What is the difference between the two competitions wait a minute? Oh okay I see what she's saying This is first time here on this one I got and Perez you mean a judge from miss USA but this is your first time

05:44 here. What is the difference between the two competitions? Well, the two big differences are one a lot more people are watching Miss Universe and that's good for my brand. Thankfully Donald Trump no longer owns this pageant. He did not! Oh he didn't! He said it! Sad Perez... He'll be the first to go So he says this gratuitous insult of the past owner of the show who hired him for The Miss USA pageant. He slams them for no, just to get a cheap laugh. The hostess asking the question she's cracking up thinking it's hilarious and then they cut to Steve Harvey and he is thinking that's hilarious! Let's insult the old owner. Wait... Is there a Steve Harvey insult clip?

06:42 There's no Steve Harvey in this. Okay, no it's Steve Harvey is thinking that this is hilarious as great Yeah little did he know and he had caused the curse I think cause the curse Oh It's like missing Santa Maya. Yeah exactly I think there was a dead code immediately when they did that the curse began and for those of you just hearing one of John's reports on one of the many beauty pageants that he is so expert in The reason why we do this is, we like to look at geopolitical reasons why a certain country wins some form of global or regional

CHAPTER 04 / 59 Discussion

Pageant Aesthetics, Trump Era vs New Ownership

A comparison of pageant standards under Donald Trump's ownership versus the current management highlights changes in contestant selection and stage behavior. Observations include a shift toward mixed-race contestants, such as Miss France, and a perceived lack of discipline regarding "duckface" expressions and mugging for the camera during the broadcast.

miss universe· miss france· duckface· pageant standards· martinique

07:19 Competition so we have the Eurovision Song Contest and we have the World Cup and all these things can be fixed as in they can Be rigged. Yeah, well this particular event They don't have a clue that I'm plugged in because Trump sold it that's why yeah, no It was just random completely random they the girls there's another thing which was kind of surprising me about the girls John well other girls When Trump ran the Miss Universe pageant, it was wall-to-wall outrageous beauties. This? No! Not even close. Everybody was mixed race with very few exceptions. Miss USA was not but everybody else was and you could spend most of your time trying to figure out what mix they are. The French woman for example who was Miss France

08:11 Really, she was one of the really pretty girls But she was like I don't know. She's like from Martinique or something if she was island island girl Island French girl She was an island girls great European features but she had Asian features and she had Polynesian feet it was you just keep staring at her trying to but she was French Anyway so but the girl overall the women They all looked great in bathing suits it seemed, and at least they had them all come out in bathing suits. Not one at a time but they came out to dance and sing and jump around in bathing suits. Wait there was jumping? Jumping around going on? Oh I missed this! They were jumping?! Yeah And then when they did some pans of the girls that didn't win or didn't get into the finals

08:55 They were mugging to the camera. Duckface? Which was never allowed by Trump. Duckface? Yep! Oh man... There was one duck face, there's another girl that was winking and blinking it was ridiculous the duckface one was hilarious but so it was not as well done when Trump owned it let's put it that way You know what I'm missing It's, you know what you just kind of said. No one has done this analysis has said when Trump owned the brand and where...what did this air on? What network did this air on? I believe it was ABC. Okay so when Trump owned the brand we had... Might have been Fox but I think it was ABC. I think it was ABC too. No, it may have been Fox anyway doesn't matter to me When Trump owned...this is what I'm missing from everybody. Trump, the obvious xenophobe racist Islamophobe everything phobe

CHAPTER 05 / 59 Discussion

Steve Harvey, Miss Universe Broadcast Errors

Steve Harvey's performance as host of Miss Universe is scrutinized, specifically his failure to read the winner's cue card correctly and his awkward interactions with contestants. An anecdote regarding celebrity pageant judging in Secaucus, New Jersey, featuring Boy George is shared to provide context on the industry.

steve harvey· miss universe· cue cards· live television· secaucus

09:42 When he owned the brand. Woman hater! Woman hater, yeah when he owned the brand The women were pretty and they won properly according to the script Yes No one has said yeah Trump you know they screwed it up He sold it and then they screw that's a easy one to do Well, this is what it looked like to me. They sold it and the conspiracy theorists said that this was rigged which I don't believe. I think Steve Harvey's just dumb. He was a terrible host he was fumbling and struggling You know what? He has never watched a competition That's why he doesn't know the way it works And I saw the cue card There's a photo of it in the show notes Where it has second runner-up First runner up then winner The names of the runners ups and winners are very small font

10:26 But it was, but that's how you do it. The first runner up is and he should have said Columbia Miss Philippine your miss universe That's how you do it everybody knows yeah He obviously has not watched these things and he could tell by the way he brought the women over instead of welcome Miss Canada You know to get him to come over to answer the questions And his was always France your next That's your next USA you're up and I've done some celebrity pageant judging in the past my favorite was in Secaucus, New Jersey with boy George as my fellow judge This was this was after the heroin. It was all fat and bald himself Nice guy but damn Boy George judging the women no

CHAPTER 06 / 59 Discussion

Miss Philippines, US Military Base Question

Miss Philippines, Pia Wurtzbach, answers a political question during the Miss Universe pageant regarding the reopening of United States military bases in her country. She expresses support for the American presence, citing the historical relationship and shared culture resulting from past colonization.

miss philippines· pia wurtzbach· us military bases· colonization· pageant questions

11:19 Well, Harvey also made the mistake of constantly editorializing. For example let's play Miss Philippines who won the competition overall play her question this is the Miss Universe Q Philippines. Here is your question Earlier this year, there was a controversy in the Philippines about the United States reopening a military base in your country. I love the music! Do you think that the United States should have a military presence in your country?

11:56 I think that the United States and the Philippines have has always had a good relationship with each other We were colonized by the Americans and we're-we have their culture in our traditions even up to this day And I think that we're very welcoming with the Americans, and I don't see any problem with that at all Thank you Yeah Exactly what i would've said. Exactly Nailed it

CHAPTER 07 / 59 Discussion

Miss Universe, National Stereotype Questions

The Miss Universe pageant is criticized for tailoring questions to national stereotypes, such as asking Miss Colombia about drug society and Miss Australia about marijuana legalization. The hosts argue that these specific inquiries are reductive and poorly handled by the host.

miss colombia· miss australia· marijuana legalization· drug policy· pageant questions

12:34 Idiot. Wait, did we colonize the Philippines? Yeah it was during the Spanish-American War He says... Nailed it is what he said That's exactly what I would have said nailed it Nailed it Awesome sauce! What is he doing that for I don't know. Well, maybe because she nailed it and she...I don't know? No he said that with everybody He was all very complimentary when he did Miss USA which is the only other one this kind of interesting One was about should you legalize marijuana this went to uh... Can we listen? I don't have them miss the marijuana one Oh i have Miss Universe Q-USA Yeah that one now This one here is a classic they asked like the missed They asked everybody Here's where it went

13:22 Every question was specific to the nation. So Miss Philippines got asked about the Philippines having... Oh, that makes sense! Of course we'd have to talk about guns and crazy... Is Colombia about drugs? Yes! What did they ask her?! They asked Miss Columbia whether or not drugs are a bad thing for society in just kind of blame-like way. Really? Like it's Columbia's fault. That's what they asked? And then they asked Miss Australia, the tall one... How about those kangaroos, Miss Australia? No instead they ask her about legalizing marijuana In Australia?! Yeah and so she's beating around the bush about that and he's like laughing First I should have clipped this one because he asks the question like this

CHAPTER 08 / 59 Discussion

Miss USA, Gun Control Response

Miss USA addresses the polarizing issue of gun ownership during the pageant, advocating for stronger regulations and collective safety over individual rights. Host Steve Harvey's enthusiastic endorsement of her answer is compared to past media discussions regarding the Second Amendment and African American perspectives.

miss usa· gun control· san bernardino· sandy hook· second amendment· steve harvey

14:05 In Australia, they're thinking about... Whoa! Legalized marijuana. So it was really lousy I mean this guy's really bad It kind of fits you know first you give up your guns and then you start You know then get everyone to smoke weeds Yeah what do you want me to do boss? Back to the gun thing Miss USA play it USA your turn Your turn Hello Hi Steve how are ya? Good here we go Few issues in the United States are more polarizing than gun ownership. The argument really heats up after major tragic events such as San Bernardino and Sandy Hook, what's your position on gun control? This is an incredibly difficult issue and the United States is constantly battling and weighing our options I think that it's incredibly important that all individuals have the right to protect themselves and feel safe

15:04 But I also think that sometimes we need to look at the safety of a whole more than our own personal safety. So, so i think we need stronger regulations specifically I think that we need to pay attention... Pay attention! Pay attention! She meant to say... You stepped all over it, Harvey. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'll play it again.

15:44 We need some gun control. What did he say? He said, perfect we need some gun control now I find that interesting coming from him because as you recall we had this clip of Tavis Smiley and one of these black rappers on them Smiley said and who I respect for saying it he says that he doesn't understand how any black man in America can be all for the Second Amendment have guns Was that, uh... That was one of your clips? Yeah. I might have it here. It might be under Tavis or something. And I'm reading the new issue of Rolling Stone and Jan Winter the publisher has an interview with President Obama. I like Jan Winter but his interview kind of missed the mark there's some questions he should've asked that he didn't in his interview but I gleaned from- No, I don't think that's it. Is that it?

16:36 I don't know. That article, the president tells John Wynne that his favorite TV show is Homeland. No no it's something different. It's strange? Okay i don't know what its labeled but I understand what you're saying But anyway Harvey does this sort of thing throughout the whole The whole event. Oh yeah, that's what he does! If you've ever seen live at the Apollo, you know... He'll be mumbling to himself. That's what I'm talking about! That's a best podcast in the universe! That's right! It's a little bit of podcasts! Go podcasts and podcast best podcasts! That's how he talks. That's his shtick Well, they had this show. They had the questions but after the question they got three women back The three finalists Miss California, Columbia and Philippines Sorry? Miss USA not Miss California. Miss USA Oh I like...the reason why I keep thinking it's the same as Miss California is because she talks like this And she's a dingbat

CHAPTER 09 / 59 Discussion

Miss Universe, Final Word Headset Gimmick

The "final word" segment of Miss Universe features contestants wearing headsets while others answer the same question regarding their qualifications for the title. The production quality is criticized from a professional perspective, noting the awkwardness of the segment and the performance of the finalists.

miss universe· miss usa· equality· television production· final word

17:35 And she thinks that we should have changed the gun laws. Anyway, I watched this with Mimi and it reminds her of a character that Mimi once wrote for one of our comic friends who's using the bit in London right now. On the old Stratford? On one of those stages. That's what I mean! Be under it... So they do this gimmick, they decide to ask everybody the exact same question. Oh wait is this the put on headphones thing? Yeah! I always wonder what are they playing in those headphones and does someone get the answers right? I don't know but they all sucked and it was a stupid segment we can play a bit of it...I only have the beginning I think this is Miss Universe headset gimmick Time for your final word Colombia & Philippines Headphones On

18:30 Headphones on! Were they Beats headphones? USA, please step up to the mic. Oh my... Are you ready? Nah I'm not ready Why should you be the next Miss Universe I think that i should be the next Miss Universe because I am so passionate and so driven. It is my goal to inspire people from around the world, to believe in themselves, to BE themselves and to follow their wildest dreams no matter what those dreams are! I want to work to bring equality towards men and women it's time to step up into power women

19:15 I think she thought she had it nailed there. I did She was not the brightest bulb in the panel yes, and You She was pretty, you know. I mean she came in third out of three and she was happy when Harvey because she was kibitzing with the Miss Philippines on the side when Harvey came out to re-announce the winner and i do have the whole segment is a little long but I cut...I shrunk it as much as I could but it's such a fantastic dramatic moment that I think if we take a little time to play this and remember....if you watch it on television with all that like compressed a bunch of it

20:00 If you watch it on television, it was about a five or six minute moment and it was extremely uncomfortable to watch. As a television professional producer or as an audience member? Or both I think in our well If you were looking at it from the perspective of a television producer, your jaw would be on the ground because the way this was handled is poorly done. But as an audience member I think it was very... And in my case since I knew what happened- What did little jerk off Perez Hilton say? He said nothing. Oh okay. It's here play and we'll enjoy. There are two women left!

CHAPTER 10 / 59 Discussion

Steve Harvey, Miss Universe Winner Announcement Blunder

Steve Harvey mistakenly crowns Miss Colombia as Miss Universe 2015 before returning to the stage to apologize and announce Miss Philippines as the actual winner. The segment captures the confusion on stage, the lack of a translator for the contestants, and Harvey's public admission of responsibility for misreading the results card.

steve harvey· miss universe· miss colombia· miss philippines· live television error

20:42 Philippines, please join me over here. One of you is about to become our new Miss Universe If for any reason she is unable to fulfill her duties the first runner-up will take a place Good luck to both of you I can't do my duty miss universe 2015 is... The suspense It's killing me.

22:20 So, we were watching this and they don't even...she has a translator with her. She can speak very little English. She speaks some and she speaks it with a good accent but not much. And they never bothered to bring the translator out so Harvey is there kind of took you know she's not doesn't know what's going on And so she's standing there, didn't even bring anybody to tell her what was going on. It was hilarious! That's fantastic So the other meanwhile, Miss Philippines is going what the hell is going on? She's up by Miss California, right there I did it again Yeah, Miss USA and then Miss USA thinks this is great You can just see it

23:01 Because she's eliminated. She's out. She doesn't give a crap, so she's talking to the Miss Philippines Oh what do you think is going on? So they're going back and forth in they in the miss USA woman is just having a time of it and Everybody else is kind of looking around and so it continues Boy I missed some good television and by the way after he Brings out miss Philippines the audience you don't hear so much, and then I skip ahead again during that moment of the next skipping ahead Yes, they're booing him. Yeah one of your better sound effects. I have to say it's actually what it is I'll tell ya You have a reel-to-reel at house or Reeboks kind of Reeboks with a little thing with a razor blade when I can cut yeah And then you just yeah, yeah, are you caught yes? And then you get this crazy little piece of tape do remember doing

23:58 Tape echoes, but with loops and you'd make a loop and then have to hold it with a pencil Do you remember doing that on the reel-to-reel? I know how...I've known it to be done. Because you had a really long loop And would be too big for the real so you'd hold it with a pencil and then it would just loop around Sometimes you get another guy with another pencil To make a loop echo effect What this was, was that vamp they were playing. Same stupid tune and what I did was just highlighted it with the audacity and then changed speed 1000x. Miss Universe 2015 is Philippines... Miss Philippines your first loss as Miss Universe.

25:03 Listen folks, let me just take control of this. This is exactly what's on the car I will take responsibility for this It was my mistake my bad on the cars my bad horrible mistake But the right thing I can show it to you right here my bias The first runner-up is Columbia. It is my mistake Still a great night Please don't hold it against the ladies. Please go we feel so badly, but it's still a great night. Thank you all Okay, we're here there's dad mom between what so they play her off that little diddy Yeah And then they just killed the show and then they just went straight to commercial because they were out of time

CHAPTER 11 / 59 Discussion

Fox Broadcast, Miss Universe Ratings and Rehearsals

The Miss Universe broadcast on Fox drew 5.6 million viewers, a figure considered low compared to NFL programming. Speculation arises regarding Steve Harvey's absence from final rehearsals and the missed opportunity for the network to capitalize on the backstage drama following the crowning error.

fox· miss universe· ratings· nfl overrun· steve harvey

25:57 Yeah, I went to the top of the hour. It was done! But meanwhile...I was expecting more because I saw that I was watching this thing on YouTube and this girl was back there with Miss Columbia crying her eyes out surrounded by other girls. It was pathetic and if it had been rigged they would have shown that. This is a biggest botch I've ever seen on television. How hard can it be? The interesting thing is ABC cant even really capitalize on it you know You should be doing, you should be following the drama and the backstage and the crying. And I did see some videos of Miss Columbia at the airport... They should be capitalizing on that but no because it might hurt their feelings. It may have been Fox. And how can? Let's just see now. How many people watched it? I think it was down

26:51 I mean, it was such a botch. It's three hours this show! Three hours! So there must have been plenty of time for rehearsals and somebody said that Harvey never went to the last hour of rehearsals Because I can imagine the guy seems like one of these. You're right, Miss Universe was on Fox. Okay so Fox screwed the dog on this thing. And 5.6 million viewers not even worth discussing! Yeah 5.6 is lousy! Everyone's watching NFL Overrun for 25 million people and why are we even talking about this? Stop we should talk. Well that's what were talking about you don't have to watch it.

27:39 They should have just said glitch. That would have been so much easier to say glitch, you know the other thing about harvey was annoying I was watching him and they did bring out columbia And they'd have the translator So the translated right and the french was actually worse They had missed france in the translator was like some dwarf and it's like so he got this thing and she Say something in french and then harvey would look and stare at the translator But he would do it as a in a I commented on this with Mimi, it was a slow burn. He would slowly turn his head like he would like a comic and then he would stare at this guy for an extended period of time. Okay that was another part of his shtick I don't know if that's the shtick or whether it looked stupid? Yeah yeah...I saw him on comedians drinking coffee in cars with Seinfeld and thought it was dumb

28:30 This is like, ah. He should have just said glitch and it would've been much easier. Glitch! It's a glitch I'm sorry. I blame Trump Thank God he wasn't there to make it work right Alright, let's talk a little bit more about Trump in the... Thank you very much for your report John. Is it over? Is it done? That's good work. I should stop doing these. Slow clap for you! No, you shouldn't. The only thing I think is maybe something you want to reconsider for future reports don't watch this with your wife Excuse you. No, she's just as good as I am yeah on physical things to be on physical appearance Yeah, yeah, we went back and forth on a couple of trying to determine the that my friend that my friends girl that My friend is what you need to record at home well believe it's not that interesting

CHAPTER 12 / 59 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, ISIS Recruitment Video Claim

Hillary Clinton claims during a Democratic debate that ISIS is using videos of Donald Trump's rhetoric to recruit jihadists. ABC News reporter John Karl notes that the Clinton campaign has provided no direct evidence of such a video existing, despite Clinton doubling down on the assertion.

hillary clinton· donald trump· isis· john karl· abc news· recruitment videos

29:23 Alright, I have a couple of catch up clips. What? It would be like wow she's got a big one! Well that would be nice. Everyone is still very curious and trying to find the videos that ISIS is using to recruit people And I have a clip Well, I think my clips a set up clip. You have a setup clip Okay, I have the communications director for Clinton No No I got this is that this is the way it was reported to the public by ABC who's um you know who's in ABC seems not to be much of a Clinton fan at all and they're still all in for Jeb Bush even though That's a hopeless case but ABC is definitely not in for Hillary and here's their report which is

30:11 No, that's the Democracy Now. I got the ABC one here somewhere. Is it Clinton and another movie? About Trump... Yeah! That's it. Okay, here we go. The backgrounder. John Carl with us now live from the White House and John back to Hillary Clinton and what she said at the ABC debate that ISIS is using videos of Donald Trump to recruit jihadists has her campaign provided that video? The Clinton campaign has provided no direct evidence to back up the allegation that ISIS is using Trump's words to recruit terrorists but Clinton herself doubled down today she pointed out that Trump's words have been broadcast all

30:46 over on Arabic television and she said that plays right into the hands of violent jihadists who want to portray the US as anti-Muslim. Yeah, and I want to say something about that allegation but first here is we've played her before i forget what her name is...I think it's mentioned at beginning of clip she's a communications director for Hillary and this woman is freaking out She's freaking out about this question. She tries to change... Hillary is a pathological liar and these people have to, you know do anything they can To make up for it Well it gets better They do three things or this woman does three things first she tried she's really gonna try and change The whole situation around and throw her back to Trump. She is yeah Oh, yeah, I guess better as she also changes the statement Hillary Clinton made

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Jennifer Palmieri, Hot Rhetoric and Site Intelligence

Hillary Clinton's communications director, Jennifer Palmieri, struggles to defend the "ISIS video" claim, eventually pivoting to say Trump is being used in "social media" propaganda. The discussion involves the role of Rita Katz and the SITE Intelligence Group in monitoring jihadist activity and the lack of a specific video matching Clinton's description.

jennifer palmieri· rita katz· site intelligence group· hot rhetoric· social media

31:39 And she evokes her savior, Hillary's savior I should say. I like this clip. This morning your response to Donald Trump? The uh... you know Donald Trump was talking about- Starts off great doesn't it? What am i doing here?! I wasn't prepared for a trump question! This morning your response to Donald Trump Um, the uh... you know Donald Trump I think was talking. You know what Secretary Clinton was saying last night is that one of the many dangerous things about Donald Trump is that his hot rhetoric say we should not- His hot rhetoric! She's hyperventilating Yes yes she's freaking out and she says his hot rhetoric John We gotta write this one down this is new Hot Rhetoric That's the title of the show Yeah maybe

32:29 I'm ready to go. Hot rhetoric! Hey everybody, WHCCZ100 Adam Curry here with your hot rhetoric! Last night it's one of the many dangerous things about Donald Trump is that his hot rhetoric saying we should not allow Muslim refugees into the country... She can't even talk! I know its really bad You know what Secretary Clinton was saying last night and one of the many dangerous things about Donald Trump His hot rhetoric saying we should not allow Muslim refugees into the country is being used and this is something that the CITE International group has

33:06 Wait a minute. Oh, is she evoking Rita Katz with the site intelligence group? Then she'll do it again but listen listen She changes it a little bit who monitors social media and on Isis has said there have been no videos Well what they have said is that they are using him they he's being used in social media by Hold on The quote was videos, not he is being used in social media which is being tracked by Rita Katz who's following them on Twitter. No! It was about videos but now she changes it to say that he's been quoted as social media. ISIS has said there have been no videos Well what they've said is that they are using him He's being used in social media By ISIS As propaganda She didn't have a particular video of mine But he's being used in social media Again

34:00 What they haven't found is, is that he hasn't found a video that Mr. Trump keeps talking about this alleged mystery video of thousands of people in Jersey. Really? So she tries it, she tries to say well they haven't found the video that Mr. Trump said he saw thousands of Muslims celebrating in Jersey. During collapse at the World Trade Center but it's true that he has been used on social media by by

34:47 terrorist groups on social media to see what they are using and they have said that they are using him in social media as propaganda to recruit support. Okay, so let's just recap it? There has gotta be more! That is it?! Well you get Clip of the Day for that. Well thank you... I think we should review this for a moment because not once but twice does the hyperventilator bring- Do you want to be her or do you want to be Rita Katz who do you wanna be? Oh, that's a good one. Well you think they're challenging I'd like to do the hyperventilating but i'll let you do Harabi Rita Katz okay so to review Rita Katz has this outfit this company called SITE yeah go ahead site intelligence Site Intelligence Group and all

35:42 All of the videos, all come from this outfit. all from one place and they're always saying, oh we found this on the dark web on jihadist websites. Never do they publish their website none of that and yeah they follow jihadists on twitter which just makes no sense to me if you know how technology works at all you know these would be the honeypot to get these people to pull them down that's what the FBI and CIA everyone should be doing but now Rita Katz now

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SITE Intelligence Group, Jihadist Video Authenticity

The authenticity and sourcing of jihadist videos provided by the SITE Intelligence Group are questioned. A specific recruitment video found on a Japanese site is described, which labels Bill Clinton a "fornicator" rather than featuring Donald Trump, contradicting recent political claims.

rita katz· site intelligence group· bill clinton· jihadist videos· propaganda

34:47 terrorist groups on social media to see what they are using and they have said that they are using him in social media as propaganda to recruit support. Okay, so let's just recap it? There has gotta be more! That is it?! Well you get Clip of the Day for that. Well thank you... I think we should review this for a moment because not once but twice does the hyperventilator bring- Do you want to be her or do you want to be Rita Katz who do you wanna be? Oh, that's a good one. Well you think they're challenging I'd like to do the hyperventilating but i'll let you do Harabi Rita Katz okay so to review Rita Katz has this outfit this company called SITE yeah go ahead site intelligence Site Intelligence Group and all

35:42 All of the videos, all come from this outfit. all from one place and they're always saying, oh we found this on the dark web on jihadist websites. Never do they publish their website none of that and yeah they follow jihadists on twitter which just makes no sense to me if you know how technology works at all you know these would be the honeypot to get these people to pull them down that's what the FBI and CIA everyone should be doing but now Rita Katz now

36:22 Does whatever someone pays her to do okay, so I'm Rita cats. Oh no. I'm I'm a breathless wonder okay Hello Rita Rita Rita Rita it's the communications director from Hill hill hill oh yeah Hey, how you doing? Oh we need we tell me you found some Down from Muslim stuff I need help No, well we don't you know. Hillary said that comment we looked around for a legitimate video and as you know he created it. Rita! Rita! Rita! Have you not checked on her? The one that we found actually highlights Bill Clinton and he's called a fornicator

37:21 That's all we've got so we're gonna have to make something it's gonna cost this is a hundred fifty thousand I think I think the bill video needs to be Get back to me when you catch your breath dope, so I saw the bill video and I didn't even know about the bill video. This is great! There's a real video floating around and you can it's on YouTube buried in a Japanese jihadist site, and one of our producers sent it to me

38:00 And it's a recruitment video in English, and it doesn't look like a Rita Katz production. It looks...it's not bad though. And it's got lot of explosions. They use that $5 explosion. Oh excellent yes love that yeah yeah. And then they start name...they show all these presidents and they go liar! And they show George Bush and they name these guys and when here comes Clinton big head comes on and say fornicator. That's the only Clinton video I can find. Kid fornicator, so they don't want to show that one! No and it wasn't discovered by the site intelligence group

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Hillary Clinton, Bathroom Break and Schlonged Comment

Donald Trump uses the term "schlonged" to describe Hillary Clinton's 2008 primary loss and mocks her late return to a debate stage following a bathroom break. Reports suggest Clinton's delay was caused by the presence of Huma Abedin or another individual in the facility, leading to Trump's "disgusting" characterization of the event.

hillary clinton· donald trump· bathroom break· schlonged· elliot spitzer

38:40 Yeah, no it was a real one. And yeah this is Hillary again she gets up in France and she just makes stuff up It's like the time that she was being shot at In Iraq? That was great Oh it was Kandahar I think wasn't it? Yes some place... oh we had to run for our lives Here is Donald Trump about this accusation She's terrible! Donald Trump is on video And ISIS is using him on the video to recruit. And it turned out to be a lie, she's a liar! She is a liar. He's a liar. He got that right. I guess Trump said somewhere about Hillary going to the bathroom we now know what I've heard... Is that she was late back to the podium because there was a staffer

39:35 for hmm, I don't know who she works for but she was in the in the bathroom and she used to be Elliot Spitzer's girlfriend and I guess Hillary didn't want to be in the bathroom with anybody let alone with her. And so she waited until that one was done and then she went in and then Donald Trump apparently said That she got schlonged She got schlonged! And this is how MSNBC took this what they used to call in the 90s The Clinton This is David Brock by the way Who's David Brock? Is he a journalist, writer? I have no idea. I'll look him up What they used to call in the 90s the Clinton crazies but it's back with a vengeance And i think you know to the extent that some of this is hatred for Obama and you see in The latest Zogby poll majority Republican voters believe he's Muslim. Pay No Attention! Now pay no attention They don't believe he's a Christian

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David Brock, Racism Allegations and Trump Rhetoric

David Brock's analysis of Donald Trump's "schlonged" comment is criticized as being inherently racist for its subtextual assumptions. Furthermore, the media narrative that Trump's rhetoric will incite Muslim Americans to violence is characterized as an insult to the intelligence of the Muslim community.

david brock· msnbc· racism· muslim americans· schlonged

40:26 What we're gonna see and what we got a taste of last night was the misogynistic attacks on Hillary Clinton, which also had a racial appeal as well. The idea of a black rapist basically using the strong to defeat Hillary. I think that's what that really was about. You think there is deeply racist and violent subtext? And the crowd loved it! We can't say that enough. They really loved it. Joe...to review Here's where I have to look at this But people like, you know...this is like the George Bush dilemma. With George Bush the left was always the guy's an idiot! He's an idiot or he is a conniving fiend intelligently designing these things. They couldn't make up their mind they have the same problem with Trump as he smart or is he stupid? I believe that this was not, the Schlung reference was not something that he'd contrived or thought about.

41:23 I think it just came out of him as natural humor. It's a New York Jewish type thing that you just yell, get that slung on them and get at... But what is interesting and I wanna come back to this conversation about Trump and the Muslims so first of all- Well before we go there, I want us keep it on the topic that you were on because they do have Well, but it'll come back around. It'll come back around. I'm gonna leave it back to you promise So first of all what this David Brock says is incredibly racist because he now He's presuming that all black men have schlongs which is slang for huge dong schlong big schlong Black men got big schlongs

42:06 So I find him to be racist. Yeah, very racist now the thing that bothers me the most and it kind of hit most of the people on MSNBC are incredibly racist. The thing that really hit me though so is the media and the politicians and everyone except for Donald Trump they're all saying that his hot rhetoric will push Muslims over the edge to then go kill people. How racist can you be? You're telling me Muslims are so stupid that they'll watch Donald Trump and go, but on the blow up time to kill the people that is the racism it's and you're saying this to American Muslims there's a percentage of y'all who will be pushed over the edge by Donald Trump and go kill people for Allah

43:05 Racist. That is racist! This whole thing is despicable and this is what Muslim Americans should say, hey excuse me we're not all morons we see Trump We take from him what we want to understand...We get it I'm not gonna go kill people because of him Sorry, that is the apology that should be made to the Muslim Americans. I think you're absolutely correct. You were right on the money. You'd get clip of the day for that. Thank you. Here's... Oh, I'm sorry. I was going to...I promised to bring it back to you. Yes, I want to go back to this analysis of Trump and Hillary and the bathroom break. And I do want to say one thing. I have it on high authority that many white men have huge schlongs as well. There's a club! What? There's a club?!

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Democracy Now, Trump Hate Speech Coverage

Democracy Now! covers Donald Trump's comments regarding journalists and Vladimir Putin, framing his language as "hate speech." The segment also reviews the Clinton campaign's refusal to respond directly to Trump's "degrading language" while calling for public condemnation of his rhetoric.

democracy now· donald trump· vladimir putin· hate speech· jennifer palmieri

44:41 I don't want to, we're not going there on this topic. Or the Japanese either for that matter. This is democracy now doing the same overview of Trump and they're giving him more grief than the clip you had Meanwhile, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has continued to spark outrage and concern over his language. Speaking at a campaign rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Trump repeatedly said he hates journalists but that he wouldn't kill them. This clip begins with Trump referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. And then they said you know he's killed reporters and I don't like that i'm totally against it by the way I hate some of these people but I'd never tell

45:23 I hate him. No, these people honestly...I'll be honest! I would never kill them. I would never do that. And he's pointing at him? I would never kill them but i do hate them At the same campaign rally Donald Trump sparked criticism with continued sexist comments. I think that actually is hate speech When you say I hate someone, that's hate speech. Yeah he just comes out and says hate. Hate is a word. The H-word. At the same campaign rally, Donald Trump sparked criticism with continued sexist comments about rival candidate Hillary Clinton. First he began talking about Hillary Clinton's bathroom break during Saturday's Democratic presidential debate saying, quote, "'What happened to her? I know where she went—it is disgusting! I don't want to talk about it now. It is too disgusting!' Don't say it.' It's disgusting,'' he said."

46:21 Then he began talking. Why don't they play the clip? Is it more interesting? I wondered that myself! I'm pretty sure it's because the transcript reads better than what Trump said I think that's an old trick and i think it's being played. It is possible, but the way he said was pretty close to what she said. No its too disgusting don't say it, its disgusting he said then he began talking about... You know why? you know why she does that because she does not want anyone to have the illusion that she actually studies him or will take the effort to watch what that crazy man said That's what is going on there.

47:14 She lost. Schlang is the Yiddish word for penis." In response— Hold on, I have to write that down in case I didn't realize it. Thank you very much. Schlang is the Yiddish word for penis? Lost. Schlang is the Yiddish word for penis. In response, Jennifer Palmieri, the communications manager for Clinton's campaign tweeted, quote, "'We're not responding' to Trump but everyone who understands the humiliation this degrading language inflicts on all women should.'" You know, I have the prologue to that. All women should be degraded by his use of the word schlong. Yes because they're not getting the schlong. I have the prologue to this which is the actual tête-à-tête between George Stephanopoulos and Trump about Putin which i think is worth playing you okay yeah

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George Stephanopoulos, Putin and US Killing Comparison

Donald Trump challenges George Stephanopoulos on ABC regarding allegations that Vladimir Putin kills journalists, noting a lack of proof. Trump further asserts that the United States government is responsible for significant "killing" globally, specifically citing decisions made by Hillary Clinton during her tenure as Secretary of State.

george stephanopoulos· donald trump· vladimir putin· clinton foundation· ann polanskaya

48:03 One final question about Vladimir Putin. When you were pressed about his killing of journalists, you said I think our country does plenty of killing too What were you thinking about there? What killing sanctioned by the US government is like killing journalists Well i think number one, I think Hillary when she was Secretary of State made some horrible horrible horrible decisions and thousands and thousands, even hundreds of thousands of people have been killed. I mean you look at what went on in Libya, you look so many bad decisions that she made." Quick reminder George Stephanopoulos is not only a former and still a Clinton operative he also was a donor to the Clinton Global Foundation

48:41 If anyone knows anything about the Clinton body count, as in how many friends and close friends and less close friends around the Clintons have wound up killing themselves by shooting themself in the head two times and had a gun in their left hand. It's hilarious as far as I'm concerned. As far as the reporters are concerned, obviously I don't want that to happen but in all fairness to Putin you're saying he killed people? prove that you know the names of the reporters that he's killed? Ruh-roh. Because I've been, you know... You've been hearing this but i haven't seen the name now! I think it would be despicable if that took place but i haven't seen any evidence that he killed anybody in terms of reporters Here's what Mitt Romney tweeted about that He said there is an important distinction here Now what Trump is about to do Listen very closely I have heard my Jewish business partners back in the day

49:38 Take a pause and answer this question just like Trump does. It's uncanny, he is a New York Jew I'm telling you it's uncanny what he does. Thug Putin kills journalists and opponents our presidents kill terrorists and enemy combatants Does he know for a fact that he kills the reporters? I don't think anybody knows that it's possible that he does, but i don't think its been proven. Has anybody proven that he has killed reporters? There have been many allegations that he was behind the killing of Ann Polanski. No no, they are allegations! Sure there are allegations, I've read those allegations over the years but nobody has proven that he has killed anyone as far as im concerned. He hasn't killed reporters since he's been proven out. So what killing has the United States government done? George excuse me let me finish

50:19 If he has killed reporters, I think that's terrible. But this isn't like somebody who stood with a gun and is taking the blame or admitted that he's killed He always denied it It never been proven that he's killed anybody You're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty at least in our country but he hasn't been proven that he's killed reporters But you said, I think our country does plenty of killing too. What killing are you talking about there ordered by the United States government? Yeah how about just looking at your old boss there George You know that would be so cool if Trump could somehow slip in that body count Well he's on the verge because this interview

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Donald Trump, Iran Nuclear Deal and Russia Armaments

Donald Trump criticizes the Iran nuclear deal, claiming the United States effectively handed $150 billion to a "terror nation." He argues that Russia supported the deal because it allowed Iran to purchase "beautiful new" Russian missiles and armaments, enriching Russia at the expense of American interests.

donald trump· iran nuclear deal· russia· missiles· george stephanopoulos

51:03 I don't think i've heard him this way and I love it, and I thank...I do thank the universe for bringing us Donald Trump. Because you know he is ripping everything to shreds You know these holy...oh its George Stepanopoulos on ABC in the morning! But you can be disrespectful to him? I have another follow-on where Trump says something so prolific about Iran in regards to Putin again of course because the whole idea is Putin is the bad guy we hate Putin, Putin, Putin. Yeah Assad's gotta go but Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, PUTIN!

51:43 And I said don't go in but when you go out take the oil. And i've been saying that for four years to you and others, we were so incompetent we didn't even get the oil! You know who got a lot of the oil? ISIS got a lot of the oil. That's who got the oil. Now Iran is taking the rest of it they're gonna get the lion share because We don't know what we're doing. We're run by people that don't have a clue." And Iran has been backed by Vladimir Putin, I want to ask you a final question about Iowa The New York Times has a story this morning saying your organization is lagging. You know why? You know how Iran's been backed by us because we made one of the dumbest deals in the history of deal-making when we gave them $150 billion dollars! We have 24 day inspections which don't start for a long time and they can self inspect

52:29 and we don't even get our prisoners back. So, don't tell me about Iran being run by Putin. We let Iran become... it's a terror nation and we let Iran become really powerful. And by the way they don't need to create nuclear because they now are so rich with 150 billion dollars they can go out and buy it directly And what Trump is doing here and the hundred fifty billion dollars I think is bullcrap because that was their money crap. It's there money Absolutely, but he does very specifically talk about how the United States does things that really foster war So we're the ones that have really empowered Iran not Russia. Russia is certainly doing their damage also But we through sheer stupidity of a deal one of the worst deals I've ever seen negotiated We are the ones that truly have empowered Iran and it's a disgrace

53:20 We've empowered Iran more than Russia has? George, we just made one of the worst deals I have ever seen in deal-making. And I'm not talking between nations! We don't even get our prisoners back and now after the deal is made they want to start talking as a new deal to get our prisoners back and they want a lot for the prisoners for the four prisons and by the way... And the Iranian negotiating position was backed up by Russia. Hey, let me tell you know why? Because Russia's making a lot of money with the deal because they're selling missiles and other military armaments to Iran and they get it They're making a fortune on it because they're smart because this part You know what we're getting from that deal nothing Russia should want them to make the deal because Russia is selling armaments and they're selling missiles beautiful new model

54:09 missiles. Oh beautiful modern more beautiful missiles selling them to Iran with a big warhead on it because our people don't know what they're doing so of course Russia wanted that deal to be made cuz they're making a fortune but you know what we get with Iran nothing. Wait a second, it's our fault the Russia is selling missiles to Iran? Of course it's rough. Well, Russia... Stephanopoulos' head is now... smoke coming out of his ears. He goes... What? ...negotiator with us at the table. Russia wanted Iran to make that deal because they wanted Iran to have a lot of money so that Russia could take some of that money away from Iran because Russia is selling them tremendous numbers of missiles and

54:52 armaments George if you don't know that so Russia if I was Russia, I would have wanted that deal done too because the money that the United States run by incompetent people is giving to Iran a lot of that money is going to Russia and other countries To buy armaments. You don't know that George but that's the way it is I do that, i'm just not sure it's our fault. I'm afraid that's all we have time for this morning always a lively conversation Mr Trump thanks for joining us Thank you very much. Ding-dong boom shakalaka! Yeah! I love that! It was definitely lively. It's extremely lively and um...

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Art Wars, NickTheRat vs PewDiePie

A conflict emerges within the No Agenda artist community between NickTheRat and a producer using the name PewDiePie. After NickTheRat's "Bernie in the Breach" artwork is featured, PewDiePie submits several "artist tips" and satirical pieces, including a rat in a meat grinder, sparking a discussion on "art wars."

nicktherat· pewdiepie· no agenda art· bernie sanders· meat grinder

55:31 But he's, you know... Trump is just a susceptible. He probably goes along with the $150 billion that we're giving it to him and all we do is releasing its released funds. I'm guessing Trump is all in on Assad gassing his people? I don't know. Well, I think what we probably should do is we should review the Seymour Hersh article Yeah, and I had do you want to that should we thank a few people first? And then we'll like move it to the b-block well Let me think for a second should we would thank a few people first or should we Move it to the v. Block let me think one more second

56:17 What happened? In that case, I'm going to make an executive decision and say thank you for your courage. And in the morning to you John C with a c stands for can't see my spreadsheet. Dvorak. Well in the morning to you Adam Curry And in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. Yes! In the morning everyone in the chat room knowagendastream.com Good to see you guys here on this Christmas Eve very nice. In the morning to our artists The Hat Trick goes to NickTheRat

56:54 Three times it caused some problems those problems. Oh Generator oh what happened well first let me tell everybody this is episode 783 Bernie in the breach and Nick the rat made a beautiful Just very simplistic, but uh Bernie Sanders holding a lightsaber It's very simplistic which would set off one of our artists PewDiePie. Oh I believe oh and He decided that Nick was getting too much attention, so he did some anti-Nick art which is in the Art Genre. I'm going to go there now and describe it because it's pretty funny My favorite one of course is the meat grinder grinding up a rat This is not sportsmanlike Very unsportsmanlike He has got Enough Is Enough

57:50 And then he's got a NA artist on strike by PewDiePie, and he's got Nick the Rat being ground up in a meat grinder. Oh noes! Then he follows that up with a rat in a mouse trap with the caption, hip-hip hooray And then he goes on with quality, and then he has these artist tips. I must read these! Artist tip...and it's all aimed at Nick the Rat. Especially the one that galled him. We have to explain it is the one with George Bush in those big goofball glasses

58:32 That's what really set him off. And I think it was because he has one artwork showing a picture of these guys and then combined, he doesn't get it! He doesn't get that the reason that was so funny is because it was literally hard to look at without laughing. Right right right But okay let's listen to the artist tips Artist tip number 1 Minimal effort Spend no more than five minutes creating your quote-unquote art Artist tip number two and this one he's got a picture of the Mona Lisa with those glasses on Wait for another submission then steal oops crossed out

59:16 Take inspiration from their ideas Very nice tip number two now to number three that tip number three and he's got a little mouse in the corner rat With quantity is greater than quality Is thinking at his head? artists tip number three Submit redundant variants in order to get noticed and drown competing pieces in a ocean of shit So there you have it. Oh great. Boom! So this is gonna be, this could cause a war Yes the art wars an art war which would be just as amusing as anything we've done Anyway so that's PewDiePie's good work point.

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Donation Segment, Sir Fudge Fountain and NPR

The hosts acknowledge major donations from Brian Lawson and Sir Fudge Fountain of Ann Arbor. Sir Fudge Fountain's note critiques the current state of NPR, describing it as a "nostalgia machine" that has become unreasonably politicized and unlistenable, specifically mentioning "A Prairie Home Companion" and "Radio Lab."

brian lawson· sir fudge fountain· ann arbor· npr· value for value

1:00:04 Clearly, there's somebody I think there's a PewDiePie floating around you. I'm explaining this JC knows about it Well the PewDiePie on YouTube is very successful Yeah, I don't know if it's pretty sure it's not our guy no probably not but you know No, yeah, I do not well anyway Let's thank a few people and I do have to actually dig up a few emails We got Brian Lawson's We're starting with Nick the rats in the chat room he says I cried about it already But these two a-holes are promoting this fucker by the way Oh, Nick Really Nick really? No we love Nick

1:00:50 We just thought it was funny. Yeah, I'm sure he did all right okay back to work Yes, let's thanks Brian Lawson $1,000 that we actually had a pretty good showing today Hey Brian Brian Lawson sends me lots of clips and stuff He has lots of cool stuff that he sends is a good guy from New York He he's Sent a note in on email which i did dig up and it And I'm confused Let me get that. Okay, Dear John and Adam... I got tired of being a douchebag and just sent you a donation to become an Insta Knight! I recall that donations are normally low and slow around the holidays so i thought that this might be a good time for it A little karma for some additional consulting work would be greatly appreciated Thanks Merry Christmas Happy New Year And keep up the good work Brian L Very very very cool Brian That is a nice Christmas present Thank you so much sir

1:01:53 You've got karma. Okay, uh... There's a note- okay Sir FudgeFountain from Ann Arbor Michigan sent in $999.73 And he sent a note this all came in as a check it was a nice check by the way Recently, I was informed that my grant-funded dude named Ben position which is supposed to end in February of next year is being extended at least until the end of 2016. I believe I detect the aroma of no agenda karma at work."

1:02:32 In gratitude, I enclose V4V value for value which by my calculation below should transmogrify me into Sir Fudge Fountain Baron of Ann Arbor if that fiefdom is currently unclaimed. Perhaps Adam would spin for me a random Fletcher scream? Can you see that juice and a handcuffed kid Wilhelm scream That's the scream that we use, our version of Wilhelm. Yeah? He wants juice? He wants Juice Fletcher and the scream

1:03:08 Sirs, he continues. Sirs Trevor and Andrew and all the other A2 no agenda nobility may arrange to swear fealty in my 301 Hatcher North cubicle on the tale of your recent wait-wait don't tell me segment I had an interesting conversation with a colleague about the rise and fall of NPR We concluded that it's basically a nostalgia machine, unable and unwilling to reinvent itself in any meaningful way. The Sheldon Cooper of radio! A Prairie Home companion in the 1980s was brilliant and funny now I find it unreasonably politicized and pretty much unlistenable. Even Radio Lab we know how much you love that one Adam!

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Serial Podcast, NPR Media Strategy

The success of the "Serial" podcast is analyzed in the context of NPR's broader media strategy. While the show is highly produced and scripted, the hosts argue its popularity stems from a public desire for "calm" long-form content, though they dispute whether it fits the traditional definition of a podcast.

serial podcast· npr· jarl mohn· reliable sources· podcasting

1:03:56 Seems to be contemplating a shark jump. Thank you for a show that is always on the move! You have given sanity, laughter and the occasional spit-take to this shitisanry during some very dark times indeed." I'm going to make the final offer from The Curry Devorah Consulting Group to Jarl Mohn, formerly known as Lee Masters who i know very well that he needs to take our consulting advice on what to do with NPR He may not like our advice, but he should do that. I saw him on the Brian's media show on CNN, The Ball Guy who does a media show, Reliable Sources is what it's called and i saw Yarl on the face bag they're all I'll be on reliable sources so I tune in It's all about cereal which they don't even own! Is not even an NPR product. It's baffling to me why cereal is so

1:04:52 I mean it's no, it's not baffling to me and I'll tell you why okay? I'd like to know why because I let us say it seems to me to be just an NPR style show that is dragged out You might as well take on the media and put in segments And then call a podcast. It's not a podcast Okay, it's a podcast doesn't matter what it is the podcast this started a podcast yeah, okay fine I think I have some standing No, it's a podcast. I think... Not anymore! Oh really? I read the thing Let me finish. Because people are so... here's what's happening in the psychology People are so tired of their media

1:05:43 Sounding like this we're talking to you. I can't believe what's going on Yelling the scripts and not taking time to just listen to something, you know calmly Which is kind of what you do when your podcast you can kick back it You probably not doing much else since they're requiring a lot of brainpower So and and they do employ some theater of the mind a little bit. They have, you know...the sound is well produced you can't deny that and that is part of what people like about The No Agenda Show Is that we will take something and calmly discuss it with no regard for oh my gosh I have to hit the top of the hour for the news whatever It's not totally although serial is very scripted but its put together to make it feel like it's a relaxed thing to listen too Its a little episodic which is definitely something that podcasts are

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Donor Jingle Requests, Knighting Ceremony

The show features custom jingles from Fletcher and processes knighting requests for producers including Sir Alan Hawes, Knight of the Elongated G-String. The hosts distribute "karma" and play requested sound effects for various donors contributing to the Christmas Eve episode.

fletcher· sir alan hawes· knighting· karma· boom shakalaka

1:06:32 So I understand why people, but you know it's like in the land of the blind one eye is king You know they just have not seen us yet with their one eye Let me give a good seer sir here his requested jingles. I think I have them I think That was wrong Oh man, hold on. I actually have new ones from him Hold on He sent new ones Here we go I'm going- Ha ha Okay This'll be a nice little bonanza because Fletcher happened to send me some stuff that is perfect

1:07:16 for this episode. Here we go! I'm shocked, shocked to find glitches in the donor database around here. I am shocked, shocked to find spontaneous attention for failing pageants around here. I'm shocked, shocked to find support for the show so low around the holidays. That's not Fletcher! Can you see that juice? Wow! I know. That's Pigot. Bijou. I know... Well he is finally... Ladies and gentlemen! There goes Fletcher It is time to rumble on Karma that's what I mean. This is the kind of production that people want to hear yeah, that's That's why you nailed it All right, I did downward cur nailed it

1:08:04 Simon Tones in San Francisco, 34567. I cannot find a newt. I don't find one either nice nice number though we love that thank you i'm gonna give him some karma even though maybe his note got cut off or something? You've got karma Alan Howe is 33 dot 33 from the UK Windsor as a matter of fact nice little town where they have a nice tea shop there According to my accounting this donation should allow me the exclusive roundtable as a bassist of over 30 years with Mays and Cover Band, The Sinner's Lounge. I'd like to be knighted as Sir Alan Hawes, Knight of the Elongated G-String." That is pretty funny. Could I request... musician humor. Could I request the following please? Boom shakalaka! Girls screaming! That same one which

1:09:01 which you didn't get the last time I did. I did, but sorry and it does because i'm looking for that tones note I can't find a dose of karma for everybody love this show keep them coming accounting below hopefully he's got his email address now of course and we look forward to that title change coming up in our ceremony for you sir bingo boom shakalaka I'm telling you, that's the best scream in the business. It is! And that's the Scream No Calm Down because we have the calm down version too which is this... Sir Chris Kitterman of Carmel by The Sea in Walnut Creek

CHAPTER 24 / 59 Discussion

Birthday Announcements, Associate Executive Producers

The hosts read birthday announcements for Kristen Kitterman and Sir Ted Hausmann while acknowledging donations from Sir David Ross and others. The segment includes discussion on the "best podcast in the universe" branding and the loyalty of the listener base during the holiday season.

kristen kitterman· sir ted hausmann· david ross· birthdays· karma

1:09:44 $33.33, ITM Merry Christmas guys! Thanks for the reliable media deconstructions particularly you are working on Christmas Eve we got a lot of compliments and we got a lot of donations from the big spenders for working at Christmas Eve, they cited that constantly. It's a big deal we don't... We're working on Christmas Eve it's a big deal and I will say that is very difficult to find any new media to deconstruct because guys are all of you know they've taken off yeah now we got stuff there for a special jingle request can I get the twit dude named Ben with job karma please include my wife Kristen Kitterman and the birthday list is she

1:10:28 She's celebrating 29 years on 1224 a second hold on yesterday. Hold on a second Let me see if she's on the list Kristen. Oh, no birthdays Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yeah in there in there in their got it in there all right? What do you need oh He needs a dude named Ben mixed with job karma twit, dude. Yeah I got that one Please include my wife so the other name I guess I don't know no it's like we'll do that in the pool to that the birthday segment if you don't mind I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena somebody whose name was... Kenny when I was last here his first name may have been Ben Alright A dude named Ben

1:11:21 jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You thought karma. Nice one I'll put that at the end. Want to play that in the end thing? Nah sorry nah never mind fuck that guy let's go Graham Stanton in Point Cook Victoria Australia $333.33 Merry Christmas love you guys merry Christmas to you Graham Sir Ted Hoseman in San Jose, California 33300 and he has a note which says I move the cursor over then click on it Sir Ted Hoseman of Gitmo Nation San Jose this donation makes another of my annual birthday donations please put me on the birthday list for December 22nd. Hold on is he even in there?

1:12:13 No, see? Okay. Sir... Ted... Haussmann I think it is. Haussmann. Not Haussmann. Haussmann. Haussmann. Yeah. And how old is he? He doesn't say. Okay, on the 22nd is when his birthday was? Yeah his poor wife is subjected to the show when we were in the car but I don't feel so bad when I catch her singing along with the jingles! Oh okay. Give me some karma for my new human resource born-in November Nice and he wants a jingle that his wife can sing along too Well you know there's a number of good ones... I have just one for her Just the one. Turn it up! Turn it up, Sir Haussmann. There you go. That's right. Equal opportunity offenders. All right onward sir David of Ross and Ross California 333 same amount

1:13:10 And he goes on with a note, so thanks for the wonderful year of the best podcast in the universe. Should you both consider going out while you're on the very top? I'd say no. It's... The thought has crossed my mind! I don't think we're at the top. Here is hoping for 2016 filled with many blessings and wonderful stories for deconstruction and a great card that allows us craven capitalists to begin Croach on the last remaining field of sunshine in the entire worth worldwide media landscape Wow Sir David Ross PS Please play the funny stuff with Hillary Clinton eating the little girl and the bee and the boom shakalaka You've got karma

CHAPTER 25 / 59 Discussion

Trucker Perspectives, Climate Change Sarcasm

Associate Executive Producers Nick Raimondi and Joel Blazek are thanked for their support. Blazek, a truck driver operating between Reno and Sacramento, shares observations on winter weather and uses a "sarcastic tone" when discussing climate change during his mountain routes.

nick raimondi· joel blazek· reno· sacramento· climate change

1:14:07 Nick, and then we're dropping down to associate executive producer. We want to thank all these folks who's alive. This is great! This is Christmas man! Yeah it's Christmas and we're working on Christmas Eve Associate Executive Producer Nick Raimondi in Fremont, California 271. And he's got a Merry Christmas you two and thank you the fact that your... Oh I see what I did wrong okay? What'd you do is wrong well this is why you've heard me stumbling as I read yeah because I have not moved the spreadsheet out yet not enlarged at the 150. I got this little dinky one point font here trying to read it didn't

1:14:48 Not paying attention to what I'm doing the fact you do a show on Christmas Eve convinced me to send some cash Can you please call my brother is it Chris out as a douchebag? Both been listening for almost two years and he's yet to have Yes, hear him. It says I've yet to hear him donate yeah. He hasn't okay Let me see if I can move this over And then enlarge. Enhance, rotate! Zoom... Ah there we go. Kind of. Move it back. Okay. This isn't good either hold on just moving stuff around What are you doing man? I'm going to the top of the cells and i'm grabbing the thing and i'm stretching it okay uh Dennis Brown in Rhinelander Wisconsin $250 dollars

1:15:51 Has nothing to say. I don't have a note from him on email either. Hmm, strange. Joel Blazek in Reno Nevada 23456 is also... this should be a Joel Blazek email. I'll go look for it. The last one i need to do. Let's see search Joel. That should find it Yes, it does. And here he is Christmas donations from Sir Joel Blazek. Hi gents I've been pounding out the overtime this holiday season at Christmas peak season so i figure i can throw a little your way for the first associative executive producer credit hope you and your families have a safe and enjoyable christmas without oh with our with our without with or without is what probably wants to say whether we're right out of your

1:16:45 He jobs. He jobs, he jobs. John! I drive a truck from Reno to Sacramento or the Bay Area about five times a week and this winter has been definitely one for the books but it is not too extreme seems like one we have uh...we have one of these every four or five years climate change in full effect when i go snowboarding i make sure to mention that my most sarcastic tone apparently its really snowing Thanks in the mountains here in California. Thank you. In fact, we get these little rainstorms and they turn these huge blizzards Hmm thanks for keeping it on point this year would like a boom shakalaka Reverend Manning to do the head and some anal leakage karma. Hold on a second. Wait a minute did I just

1:17:30 What? Oh, I'm sorry. But I was...I'm already on to the next one. Ah crap! I'm just trying to keep up with you when i don't have a letter yeah well when i don't have it in front of me... You should've sent Adam a letter Well and if I don't have an in front of me then I have...I'll be looking for stuff and jingling...okay anyway doesn't matter what uh what does he want? Two chocolatka by Manning two to the head and some leakage Leakage he says oh, he wants some anal leakage karma. Oh, he just wants karma for anal leakage He's got out isn't in the truck all day that blizzard was gonna do Unpleasant thought okay bingo boom shakalaka leakage and then Karma was added to the head. Oh to the head I

CHAPTER 26 / 59 Discussion

Firefighter Anecdote, Ebola Calypso Song

Sir Jason, a firefighter and paramedic, shares a graphic anecdote about assisting an elderly patient with incontinence. He notes that singing the "Ebola Calypso" song from the show helped brighten his mood during the difficult call, leading to a request for the original "We Need to Kill Them" and "Ebola" tracks.

sir jason· firefighter· paramedic· ebola song· diarrhea

1:18:19 You've got karma cool shell casings were the same Same tone as the the bell Mikhail Garber in Issaquah Washington two three four to three four three, too. I just sent a note I'm sorry is this the guy that sent Blazic blazzic send a note No, no the Ebola note oh I don't think so we had a great node you have that note when you want to read it this fantastic note Somewhere. I think i forwarded it to you yeah, well dig it up if you can yeah Okay, they all just did summarize the note whatever this is Jason I have the note okay read dear mighty guardians of reality that this Is from uh? This is from not from the guy word sir jack sir jason or jason what he calls himself He's at night yes, sir jason

1:19:16 There may have been a number of times I've wanted to donate, especially after the Trump free speech newsletter. All the shows after it and of course you're working through the holidays as a firefighter paramedic i don't get the choice to be off or work off work as you guys do. I truly appreciate your hard work and dedication however last night was the topper! As I assisted an elderly lady with diarrhea that wouldn't stop, literally running down her legs from incontinence... I began singing the Calypso Ebola song from the show which really brightened my mood! After being awoken to deal with the poop because this nice lady's family was worthless as tits on a bowl. I wish you all the best gentlemen Merry Christmas Sir Jason. So this is by coincidence that we have um

1:19:59 Mikhail. Mikhail, uh... is asking for he says Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to the BP ITU if I may can i hear the original we need to kill them followed by Ebola We need to kill them! We need to KILL THEM! Ebola, ebola, here come from Africa give diarrhea Everybody now You've got karma Ah yes Very nice Now we have Trevor Merkin in a Bubbery. Yeah, he's in France now Trev has been passing on really good... Remember the we had to see a lot of financial information things were coming to us from the inside and the guy who used to give it gave it to Trevor and that guy died but Trevor is still checking him with us and I like that. So Trevor 23333 and he says dear monsieurs Smith & Mund

CHAPTER 27 / 59 Discussion

Smith-Mundt Act, Trevor Merkin Donation

Trevor Merkin (now Trevor Mundt) sends a donation from France, commenting on the overturning of the Smith-Mundt Act, which previously prohibited domestic propaganda. The hosts also address administrative issues regarding the birthday list for Trevor's son, Oscar.

smith-mundt act· trevor merkin· propaganda· oscar· france

1:21:03 How disappointed I felt on hearing about the cancellation of your act. Oh, the Smith-Mundt Act which disallows or the acts disallowed prohibited propaganda against the American people and that was overturned. Please accept this small contribution to help tide you over with a more discerning public until a more discerning public comes along my regards to both Trevor Mundt Now it seems Trevor Merkin Merc did he? Now he's Trevor Munt to me was there more to his note. I'm thinking oh, I don't have any more because it says It's something birth and I'm afraid that there was a birthday or something that we're now missing well Yes Any chance of getting my son Oscar on the birthday list for 21st of September see I knew it I knew it where was it

1:21:57 Well, I send this stuff to Eric and he doesn't put it on. It's like it has been horrible for the past three weeks Sorry Merry Christmas! It is annoying me...it really annoying me So he isn't on the list? No of course not Okay Trevor... You should send it to Eric I do! And I say he wants to be in there but Eric just fucking up Hold on See I gotta do all this stuff What his son Oscar 16th on 21st Sun Oscar 16 on the 21st, okay Armando Guerra Oh to total all shoe car to care tell all she care. I think he's a Londoner 222 22 I have no note from him that I can pull up Tallal know I don't have anything from him either. No okay for some real. I see what it is Let me try to let you take this no

CHAPTER 28 / 59 Discussion

Post Office Sloths, UK Producer Meetups

Armando Guerra, a mail carrier, criticizes Disney's portrayal of post office workers as sloths in recent media. Additionally, a producer from the UK Peak District suggests a potential No Agenda meetup for British listeners and requests "karma" for several international producers.

armando guerra· disney· sloths· uk meetup· little girl yay

1:22:54 Armando Guerra in Austin, Texas. That's our mailman Yeah that you mean a mail carrier He's a man isn't he and he sent a note which I also forwarded to Eric but luckily i'll just grab it here Hey Adam my PayPal donation went through before I could write a note I just want to say Merry Christmas to you and John I would also like to say screw Disney with their stupid post office sloths Oh yeah this is uh...I agree with him totally Boycott those people. Yeah, what kind of insulting bullcrap is this? Especially at the end of the year when when the mail carriers are working overtime to get you all of Santa's gifts on time Merry Christmas to the best podcast universe says Brian door in Frisco Texas another Texan $200 Thank you for all you do for our slaves every douchebag rejoice and get off your asses and donate in a new year Okay

1:23:58 I think that summarizes everything he wanted to say. And the pre-night of the living dead in Peak District, uh... I guess UK? Yep! What's the peak district you know? No idea. Okay ummm.... I can't get this through. Dear John and Adam Merry Christmas! I'm a $5 a month subscriber slowly working to remove the PRE from my NA producer alias which is pre-Night of the Living Dead, and happy to be finally able to give value for value at the associate executive producer level. I'll keep my notes short as I have a few fellow producers that like to request karma for if you'd be so kind and also like to raise the possibility of a UK NA meetup if anyone has the time to arrange such a prestigious gathering until then can they please keep it old school with a little girl yay and request Karma myself or all the UK producers The Guardians of Reality Morgan Bark & Family Sir Luddark Bar

1:24:52 Bobbark fudge fountain producer miles Torben in Norway and Graham and Darren of the grey America show Thank you, John Adam for your courage And for a truly outstanding product the best podcast in the universe best wishes for 2016 and he winds up by saying go You've got karma That concludes our well-wishers for and associate executive and executive producers for show of 784 mm-hmm I forgot the little girl yay form at the end there There we go people want to know but they're unfamiliar with the LG why? LG YLG y on Twitter. It's a little girl yay, you just heard yes. Yeah, that's true And thank you for your courage is tea

CHAPTER 29 / 59 Discussion

Holiday Schedule, No Agenda Formula

The hosts outline their upcoming broadcast schedule for the Christmas and New Year's weekends. They emphasize that their executive producer credits are legitimate professional credentials and reiterate the show's "formula" of media deconstruction.

christmas weekend· new year's eve· executive producers· formula

1:25:44 Y-T-Y-F-Y-C. Very good, yes T-Y-F-Y-C. So we remind people we do have a show coming up on Sunday which will be the Christmas weekend which is always a dud And we'll be working, we'll be working it. So go to Dvorak.org if you missed out on today's celebration. Yes and these credits are real they're just like any other executive producer credit you might see on screen or at the end of Democracy Now! or anywhere, I'll show the executive producer exactly the same. If there's ever any doubt we will be very happy to vouch for you and yes as John mentioned we'll be working on New Year's Eve so please consider us for that program. Devorac dot org slash N A And especially during the holidays there is no better time than to look at your family and propagate the formula Our formula is this We hit people in the mouth

1:26:50 The harmonica cut in and I was like, oh! And I hit the wrong button. It's so shrieking in my ears. Shrieking. Just a mystery how these things happen. Complete mystery I would like to play something funny here, which i thought was funny. Okay. Yeah hold on a second... This is Carly Fiorina of course the is also being run around as you know she's trying to be president I guess that what she doing yeah trying to be president and smile and now of course she is the technology candidate right? Right!

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Carly Fiorina, Algorithms and Big Data

Carly Fiorina, positioned as the "technology candidate," is criticized for her comments regarding the use of algorithms to track terrorists. The hosts mock her understanding of big data, noting that private sector algorithms often fail at simple tasks like targeted advertising despite massive server infrastructure.

carly fiorina· algorithms· big data· silicon valley· google

1:27:33 Right right the technology candidate because you said somebody some doesn't know saying you're saying You know I heard him. I read that I don't think I am I've never heard it, but I'm gonna start possible It's possible as possible and I answered him by you know why? I'm doing it just why are you no you don't doing you know saying you know all the time said you Know exactly what I'm doing at Carly Fiorina the technology candidates And she knows her business, everybody. They don't want to do it! Actually we're talking about other things Chris and this is why it's helpful that I understand technology Hillary Clinton tried to issue the same line last night by the way and then quickly had to say I don't really understand much about technology because she doesn't Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about Please do When we miss with all the metadata collection that we have had The San Bernardino couple

1:28:24 and the Tsarnaev brothers. What that suggests to me is that we are using the wrong algorithms to search through all this data." Uh, hold on a second... Clearly! Clearly she needs to be- She means we should be using the algorithm That is used which is very intelligent by the way To show me the product on every webpage I go to after I already bought the product Is THAT the kind of algorithm you're talking about Ms Fiorina? Is that it?! You're an idiot. Algorithms have come a long way. Oh, please! You know this algorithm used to be a little baby pup but now look how big it is It takes- Get the paws on that thing It takes 2,000 servers at Google distributed just to figure out what ad to show me based upon my search and it's still crap There's no algorithms they've not come along way I'm still waiting for my refrigerator with this algorithm...algorithm

1:29:20 To order me milk! Since 2011, or 2006 or 2007. In fact the private sector is improving their algorithm- Random years to these? That was interesting what did she just do them out of order? What are they this is like 2014 2010 2006 2007 2002 This must be one of those algorithms she's talking about it's great! Let's listen to this again as 2011 let's try again 2011 or 2006 or 2007. In fact, the private sector is improving their algorithmic ability to search through big data month after month after month and of course a big government bureaucracy isn't keeping up it's not that people are bad in government bureaucracies it's that government bureaucracies crush innovation. Yeah we had that clip which I don't think you can find but I'll challenge you because you might be able to

CHAPTER 31 / 59 Discussion

Vivek Kundra, Healthcare.gov Technology Issues

A review of past comments by former Federal CTO Vivek Kundra highlights the procurement and technology failures of Healthcare.gov. The discussion centers on the government's reliance on "1960s era technology" and "skip logic" in modern administrative systems.

vivek kundra· healthcare.gov· skip logic· cobol· procurement

1:30:17 The clip of the old CTO, whose name eludes me who talked about skip logic and speaking in COBOL and all this other nonsense. Well you are referring to the Vivek Kundra. He talks about having a hollow deck and using modern skip logic Healthcare.gov, unfortunately is a huge problem because what's happened here is it's actually preventing millions of people from getting access to affordable health care. Let's see if I can live up to the challenge here. And the core issue there is the same set of problems we've seen in the past which is that it's the procurement process, its embracing 1960s era technology You're in Silicon Valley

1:31:08 They could have easily, in the beginning kind of tried to come to Silicon Valley. You would assume... What's the downside when you have something like The Initiative that just seems so fragmented? Well at the White House level, y'know, the president was very clear I don't know if this is it John. Is it the one clip we need? I know what it is! It was a testimony where this is an interview. He still sounds like an idiot. It's 1960s Yeah, I know. I don't know what happened to it. That's that's sad It was a long time ago. She's what I said was still in the UK when we had that guy on

1:31:44 No, I can't read. Anyways but this is crazy. This is the Fiorina is really off her rocker But then she she brought up something that was interesting for two reasons one For the company she mentioned something that's just happened to the company She mentioned why did she mention it? What's their tied to the company? but then this has been asked a very specific question in public by the way and Tim Cook has refused in public I don't blame him for that. I will guarantee you that there are all kinds of things that the private sector can be doing to be helpful and they have not been engaged. Let me give you an analogy, Chris in World War II... And we're at warm now Ah! Now do you see that she stopped her analogy there? She stopped herself?! She was going to do a World War 2 technology What did she say? Did she say metaphor? No. An analogy. Hold on one second let's see what does she call it? An analogy. Analogy which means something just like this

CHAPTER 32 / 59 Discussion

Carly Fiorina, Palantir and WWII Analogy

Carly Fiorina mentions the data analytics firm Palantir as a tool the government should utilize more effectively. The hosts suggest Fiorina nearly made a controversial analogy to IBM's role in World War II data processing before stopping herself mid-sentence.

carly fiorina· palantir· ibm· world war ii· big data

1:31:08 They could have easily, in the beginning kind of tried to come to Silicon Valley. You would assume... What's the downside when you have something like The Initiative that just seems so fragmented? Well at the White House level, y'know, the president was very clear I don't know if this is it John. Is it the one clip we need? I know what it is! It was a testimony where this is an interview. He still sounds like an idiot. It's 1960s Yeah, I know. I don't know what happened to it. That's that's sad It was a long time ago. She's what I said was still in the UK when we had that guy on

1:31:44 No, I can't read. Anyways but this is crazy. This is the Fiorina is really off her rocker But then she she brought up something that was interesting for two reasons one For the company she mentioned something that's just happened to the company She mentioned why did she mention it? What's their tied to the company? but then this has been asked a very specific question in public by the way and Tim Cook has refused in public I don't blame him for that. I will guarantee you that there are all kinds of things that the private sector can be doing to be helpful and they have not been engaged. Let me give you an analogy, Chris in World War II... And we're at warm now Ah! Now do you see that she stopped her analogy there? She stopped herself?! She was going to do a World War 2 technology What did she say? Did she say metaphor? No. An analogy. Hold on one second let's see what does she call it? An analogy. Analogy which means something just like this

1:32:40 Yeah, something and yeah. I think that she stopped herself because she was going to say in World War II IBM was instrumental in searching through big data and selecting all of the Jews so their Germans could go kill them! This is true And I think she stopped herself, and was like oh my god what am i going to say? It was IBM Watson. They built the punch card machine so they could search through all the big data and get all the Jews. Yeah Carly good one! Helpful and they have not been engaged let me give you an analogy Chris in World War II

1:33:16 And we're at war now. It's not a world war, trust me! There are for example there is a whole company called Palantir that does nothing but derive and create algorithms to search through big data We're not using their capabilities Yeah I think thats... That is a good catch And he was gonna give an analogy and it was gonna be about World War II, and the only one because she's talking about big data. And that card sorter was specifically used for big data which means a population of Jews Yeah, yeah She would that's your right? She's gonna go there and then all of us like oh, I'm not her dad won't fly. That won't fly It's not gonna work But so she mentions Palantir which of course came up in the Edward Snowden documentation but was completely

CHAPTER 33 / 59 Discussion

Palantir Technologies, Funding and CIA Ties

Palantir Technologies reportedly raised $880 million, bringing its valuation to $20 billion. The company's origins with the CIA's venture capital arm, In-Q-Tel, and its rumored role in the mission to locate Osama bin Laden are discussed in light of Carly Fiorina's recent endorsements.

palantir· in-q-tel· cia· venture capital· osama bin laden

1:34:01 It was all swept under the rug. We haven't really heard about Palantir recently, so she brings this up at the very moment this news comes out. One of the most secretive big data startups scores some big funding. Palantir Technologies has raised a staggering $880 million dollars that's according to an SEC filing Palantir is now valued at $20 billion, making it the fourth highest value tech startup behind only Uber, Xiaomi and Airbnb. The 12-year old tech startup analyzes large amounts of data to decipher trends and help lead to better decision making from defense, to fraud. Although never confirmed it's been rumored Palantir may have helped provide data that led to the killing of Osama Bin Laden. The bottom line Palantir is climbing its way up the Tech Ladder. Yeah! That's from USA Today I think she's in on IPO

1:34:59 And of course for her to say we don't use that private sector, these guys were funded by In-Q-Tel. By the CIA's very own venture capital arm and now they've raised 880 million dollars or they're going to raise that in a public offering. That is too much! Of course They wouldn't have enough leverage to make anybody any money in an IPO. So just for these two 45 second clips alone, Carly Fiorina is so disqualified because she wants to use big data to kill Jews... that's her analogy. To kill Jews? Okay allegedly then all right.

CHAPTER 34 / 59 Discussion

Tim Cook, 60 Minutes Encryption Interview

Apple CEO Tim Cook appears on "60 Minutes" with Charlie Rose to discuss the company's stance on encryption. Cook argues against "backdoors" for law enforcement, stating that any vulnerability created for "good guys" would inevitably be exploited by "bad guys," and emphasizes the need to protect personal data on iPhones.

tim cook· charlie rose· apple· encryption· backdoors

1:35:38 And she said, oh but they we government should use it with the penalty has been working for the government from day one They're funded by the government. So she's a moron But I think we can tack on to this Did you buy any chance see? The Tom Collins 60 minutes interview is that Reese the recent interview? Yeah, is it the old one? No, it's been there a couple of times three days ago You sure that was just a rerun I'm very sure it's not. The interview was recorded before Paris, but it only aired now as far as I know. It's called Inside Apple Part 1 and 2. It aired last Sunday. Well whatever it was, I didn't see it Would you like to hear a few choice clips? Because... Well I hope that you have a few choice clips. I do! And I like Tim Cook- Tom Collins. Tim Collins. I like what he is saying.

1:36:35 I think Charlie went in, so Charlie did the interview and he went in to talk to Johnny Ive. Yeah, he's friends with Johnny Ive even said so and this in the overtime segment yeah well I've been friends with Johnny for a long time And he went into Johnny's design studio. Anyway, here is Tim Cook on encryption which of course this is the guy and Carly referred to him so he gets a clip. But perhaps the most pressing issue facing Apple today is encryption It is believed that the terrorist in last month attacks in Paris used encrypted apps to avoid surveillance

1:37:11 U.S law enforcement immediately renewed its calls for Apple and other companies to provide access to its customers' encrypted text and emails. Apple CEO Tim Cook has refused to do so, and though we interviewed him prior to the attacks Cook has since told us that Apple is cooperating with authorities to combat terrorism, but he has not changed his position on encryption. So I'm sorry it was before San Bernardino so it's not all that... It's pretty recent this interview They say it's like you know... Yeah no I'm looking at now and here it is not a rerun That's why there are two of us John But you can't unlock the trunk Here's the situation as on your smartphone today in your iPhone There's likely health information

1:37:56 There's financial information. Was this about junk in the trunk? Charlie said, it's like you can't open up the trunk. Apple is cooperating with authorities to combat terrorism but he has not changed his position on encryption They say it's like you know you have a search warrant but you can unlock the trunk Here's the situation. Charlie talks in these metaphors all the time and I don't have this clip, but he is bored at a certain point going to watch him. He's the most bored person in the world, but he's working all day. No, he enjoys it as an interview show. He does The Morning Show. He's tech horny. He's got an Apple Watch. He loves this. He loves that. Yeah, well you probably gotta watch. He was probably doing blow with Johnny. I've trust me.

1:38:43 But at a certain point he says, the core of Apple. He thinks like oh I made up what a great statement and he's bending over when you said the core of Apple. The core of Apple. Really Charlie? On your smartphone today on your iPhone there is likely health information there is financial information There are intimate conversations with your family or your coworkers There's probably business secrets and you should have the ability to protect it And the only way we know how to do that is to encrypt it. Why is that? It's because if there's a way to get in, then somebody will find the way in. There have been people who suggest that we should have a back door

1:39:29 But the reality is if you put a backdoor in, that back door's for everybody. For good guys and bad guys. But does the government have a point in which they say If we have good reason to believe In that information Is evidence of criminal conduct Or national security behavior Well, if the government lays a proper warrant on us today then we will give the specific information that is requested because we have to by law. In the case of encrypted communication, we don't have it to give

CHAPTER 35 / 59 Discussion

Apple Tax Strategy, Overseas Revenue

Tim Cook defends Apple's tax practices, calling the accusation that the company avoids taxes on $74 billion in overseas revenue "total political crap." He argues that the current U.S. tax code is an "industrial age" relic that is "backwards" and "awful for America," preventing the repatriation of digital-age profits.

apple· tim cook· tax code· corporate taxes· charlie rose

1:40:06 And so if, like your iMessages are encrypted. We don't have access to those. Okay but help me understand how you get to the government's dilemma? I don't believe that the trade-off here is privacy versus national security. I think that's an overly simplistic view we're America! We should have both Yes! Yes Tom Collins! We're Merica Yeah, I like that. He had a couple more stu- I liked what he said! I'm kind of uh... Cook fan what I'll tell you and the folks watching tonight is oh, this is about taxes not paying taxes having all their money overseas We pay more taxes in this country than anyone well They know that and you should because of how much money you make well that I don't deny that we happily pay You also have more money overseas probably than any other we do because as I said before two-thirds of our business is over there

1:41:02 But why don't you bring that home is the question. I'd love to bring it home Why don't you? Because it would cost me 40% to bring it home And I don't think that's a reasonable thing to do. This is, this is a tax code Charlie that was made for the industrial age not the digital age it's backwards its awful for America It should have been fixed many years ago It's past time to get it done But here's what they concluded Apple has engaged in a sophisticated scheme To pay little or no corporate taxes on 74 billion in revenues held overseas That is total political crap There's no truth behind it. Apple pays every tax dollar we owe."

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China Manufacturing, Vocational Skills Gap

Tim Cook explains that Apple manufactures in China not because of low wages, but because of a superior "vocational skill" base. He claims that while the U.S. has focused on traditional college education, China has prioritized tool and die making and other manufacturing skills in its educational system.

china· manufacturing· vocational skills· foxconn· tim cook

1:41:57 And so he pays every tax, what he says is true. They pay all the taxes that they owe because they don't owe taxes on that other money. But he also said that the tax code is outdated and needs to be fixed? Yeah... It's just funny I never heard that before. Well here it is on this last one I have about the difference between America and China and profound once again. At some point in the near future, a bigger market than the United States? Yes I am as certain as i can be of that The numbers simply tell you that He's talking about China obviously is a market The numbers tell us to me that and not just the numbers of people but the numbers of people moving into the middle class That for a consumer company

1:42:41 is the thing that really begins to grow the market in a big way. And most Americans would be surprised to know that nearly all Apple products are manufactured by one million Chinese workers in the factories of Apple contractors, including its largest Foxconn. Yet Tim Cook insists that China's vast and cheap labor force is not their primary reason for manufacturing there So if it's not wages, what is it? It's skill. Skill. They have more skills than American workers? They have more skills than German workers? Hold on! Let me be clear. China put an enormous focus on manufacturing in the...in what we would call vocational kind of skills The US over time began to stop having as many vocational kinds of skills

1:43:34 I mean, you could take every tool and die maker in the United States and probably put them in the room they were currently sitting in. In China you would have to have multiple football fields because they've taught those skills in their schools? It was a focus of them it's a focus of their educational system And so that is the reality. We've talked about vocational skills dwindling in the United States before. Yeah, because everyone emphasizes going to college where they can talk these stupid students into taking out these ridiculous loans and going into debt for the rest of their lives and still not have a vocational skill!

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Reuters, Millennial Climate Change Poll

A Reuters report by "millennial" journalists claims that Republicans are changing their minds about climate change following the Paris Deal. The hosts criticize the report's methodology, noting it only accounts for Republicans who were already aware of the specific agreement, and mock the "indoctrination" of the young reporters.

reuters· climate change· republicans· paris deal· james inhofe

1:44:11 And there's no offense to the stupid students that listen to the show. But you know who you are, and you regret it! You know who they are? They're the ones that were given the chance to do all of Reuters reports because... Well they're also the ones in the chat room right now. Not all of them. So, Reuters like all big media companies you know everyone's they're not gonna work on the last week and Christmas. Screw that! Hey hey you inter I mean millennial I mean yeah you young person. Noodle boy? Yeah what noodle boy and noodle girl so i have the christmas millennial crew at reuters reporting on a new poll about climate change in republicans

1:44:58 Which I think really sums up the sad indoctrination and communication skills of America's youths. As freakishly warm weather sweeps the eastern US, a new poll shows Republicans who have largely denied climate change may be thinking again Megan Gassella has the story. The poll found 58% of Republicans who knew of the recent global climate deal reached in Paris approved of efforts to limit global warming. And by the way, what a great poll that is! So the headline reads, Republicans now thinking differently about climate change but it's only Republicans who were aware of the Paris Deal and what went down there

1:45:54 Oh, please. It's a snowball. For years Republican politicians like Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe have made climate change denial a key contrast with President Obama and the Democrats. Mr. President catch this 2016 GOP hopefuls like Donald Trump singing in similar tune Like who can we mention? Oh yeah Donald Trump! President Obama said that global warming is our biggest problem Can you believe this We're seeing a primary where many of these candidates aren't talking about the issues at all. Many of the Republican candidates are going so far as to disavow the science behind climate change and say that they don't even believe that it is primarily man-made, and we're seeing a difference there between what the Republican electorate is thinking and hoping to see in what the candidates themselves are saying." And that could turn up the heat if a Republican takes the White House next year and has to decide whether to implement the Climate Agreement or scrap it

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Record Warmth, Historical Weather Comparisons

The media's focus on record warm temperatures on the East Coast is countered by historical data from Christmas Eve 1955, when temperatures reached 86 degrees in Orlando. The hosts argue that current weather patterns are being selectively reported to support global warming narratives while ignoring cold and rainy conditions in the West.

global warming· orlando· washington dc· weather history· 1955

1:46:47 Alright, Reuters you should not be doing that. That was one of the worst reports you've ever done And should you but here's a little tip little tip little tip Should you be at? A family gathering and people bring up climate change and you know you and of course it's warm this Christmas You may want to point out the Christmas Eve 1955 was considerably warmer 86 degrees in Orlando we had 85 degrees in Fort Lauderdale miss Florida What did I say? That's what you said. Orlando, Florida... This is a Florida temperature! What was it in Washington DC? Gary Oklahoma and Texas all over and senile Texas all over 90 degrees i'm just reading the list let me get to it well yeah there was much warmer get out of florida get out of florida okay that's what's going to be used texas is warm california is warm no it's not

1:47:45 No, it's raining and it's freezing. It was not perfect but it's cold. Well there should be lots of reports about that no they got no reports when they did this whole thing I watched the news all these coasts is real high old New York City 76 81 something like that and they go on and on and they never mentioned global warming and then never mentioned this going like a son-of-a-bitch perfect on a Oregon like a son-of-a-bitch in Oregon Washington State And the mountains here, which I mentioned earlier and it's raining and cold and windy. They don't mention that? No We may get a dusting of snow in the next few days here in California That lowlands... That's great So you know, blahblahblah Don't talk about that There was little Christmas message It's already chilling down a little bit on the East Coast That was a fluke Yes

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ISIS Christmas Message, Buckingham Palace Threat

A video purportedly from ISIS delivers a Christmas message threatening the United States, Britain, and Australia. The speakers claim they will not stop fighting until the "black flag" flies over Buckingham Palace and the White House, attributing their military persistence to divine support.

isis· christmas message· obama· buckingham palace· white house

1:48:38 The ISIS put out a Christmas message, and this is not a Rita Katz ISIS. This is a real group of about 20 guys in this video And you know it's not a Rita Katz because they... Rita Katz' stuff is professional I mean the audio levels are good, you know. I even did a little bit of filtering on this one it was so crappy but at the end ISIS kind of goes the Mexican route. This message is delivered to you, the people of America. I deliver this message to you, the people of Britain And I deliver this message to you, especially the people of Australia. And I say this about your coalition. International peace coalition and country Bring every nation that you wish to us. Bring every nation that you want to come and fight us It means nothing to us Whether it's 50 nations or 50000 nations it means nothing to us. Bring your planes! Bring everything you want to us because we will not harm us Why? Because we have Allah Azza Wa Jal And this is something that you do not have Is it not apparent to you

1:49:41 How are these victories possible? These victories come only from Allah, and that is how with the small numbers of soldiers we have. We take these massive victories and to the leaders, to Obama, I say this...these weapons that we have, these soldiers will not stop fighting, they will not put down their weapon until we reach your lands, until we take the head of every tyrant and until the black flag is flying high in every single land. Until we put the black flag on top of Buckingham Palace! Until we put the black flag on top of The White House We will not stop and we will keep on fighting And we will fight you and we will defeat you bi-izni Allah ta'ala Takbir! Takbir!

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Millennial Slang, Jack Move Definition

A discussion on millennial slang reveals that several young acquaintances of the hosts have never heard the term "jack move." This leads to a debate about the origins of the phrase and the disconnect between different generations of "millennials."

millennials· jack move· slang· social observation

1:50:32 Don't say I didn't warn you. It sounds like you screaming. It's me like Okay, I got a report for you mm-hmm last the last show we had dinner and One two had one two three. Oh you had Millennials five Millennials mmm Every one of them have never ever heard of jack move So I challenge anyone listen to the show if you can tell me that this is a millennial saying and they said well We use the word do she and we do this with it. I've never heard Jack move I'm never and if we're talking about Top-end Millennials, the ones that are close to 30 and low end Millennials in the 20s so we have a range of Millennials Okay, none of them have heard Jack move Oh Okay

1:51:34 Where'd you get it? From millennials. What millennials?! I have millennials in my life! Jack move, that's a jack move. Okay... You know really- Back off man i'm a scientist. You can't argue with that. Okay I got another one this is not a complaint this is an ask Adam Uh oh So since you're watching that crappy show The View Well I- It's not like I do it for my health. I ended up Thinking I could maybe get something from the crappy show The Real. Otherwise known as Five Skanks. Oh, John! What? Okay...I don't think they would deny it. So i've got a clip from this show Wait so this isn't Ask Adam hold on. Alright you got a clip from the show

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The Real, Mirror Kissing Segment

The daytime talk show "The Real" is criticized for a segment where a hostess was challenged to "passionately" kiss a handheld mirror. The hosts mock the absurdity of the competition and the high-energy reactions of the show's cast to the "dopey" task.

the real· talk shows· mirror kissing· competition· daytime tv

1:52:37 And I want you, there's something they're doing on the show and i want you to try to guess what it is. Why they are so upset about this and why they are going ballistic while somebody is doing this one thing. Okay! So... This in your never ending quest to belittle me? You are going... I'm not belittling- What?! Just kidding Yeah, this is an Ask Adam. So I guess I should know the answer? You don't have a million years unless you saw the show you would never guess what's going on. I've not seen the show and i'm going to be listening and the question is... What's goin' on? What's going on? Oh! I remember that! Oh my gosh! Oh my god, I used to love those! Oh my God

1:53:37 Well, no matter what I'm putting that in the end of show Mick. Oh man yeah that's the show i watch so i think they're probably they're doing something really stupid like they're blowing bubbles or balloon animals or something like that am i right well your you your premise is correct uh it's really stupid and i don't understand why they went so nuts about But they have this stupid, I say using the word too much but they have this dumb competition where they spin a wheel and they have to do something kind of dopey. And this wheel came around and one of the hostesses on the show had to kiss a mirror like a handheld mirror passionately

1:54:33 That was the challenge. So she gets a mirror, one with the handle on it and she holds the mirror and starts kissing the mirror and kisses it and kisses it. A mirror? You keep saying a mirror Amir yes, Amir came out and he said hey babes. No a mirror Yes I'm sorry this hard to pronounce. Yes, there's a mirror got so she gets his handheld mirror And she's kissing it and they're going nuts with oh my god Oh my god. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God, and I am watching as you what? This is crazy who cares it's not that interesting hmm

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Alanis Morissette, The Talk Performance

Alanis Morissette appears on "The Talk" to promote the 20th anniversary of her album "Jagged Little Pill." The hosts review a clip of her performance, suggesting she went "off the rails" and "off key" while still receiving enthusiastic applause from the middle-aged female audience.

alanis morissette· the talk· jagged little pill· sharon osbourne· podcasting

1:55:11 So there you go, that's it. That's the show! Well no I would not have guessed that... This is the competition with The View. Jeez. Well i'll take The View any day. Screw that. I was reading-the president- Wait wait stop I got another one Since we're on the subject of these stupid shows There's another one called The Talk Yeah? So on this one they have They brought out at the end this is the one that has Fuzzy what's his name the punk rockers wife Ozzy Osbourne. Sharon's on, and she's like the host until you have all these... The same thing it's very much like The View. Yeah but nothing is like The View, Chuck. Nothing is like The View. They bring these guests on so they brought on Alanis Morissette to sing them out.

1:56:05 The only, it's very strange. She got all this media attention and was all for the I think the 25th or 20th anniversary of her Little Jagged Pill album she is not releasing anything new she has a podcast and everyone's all over her oh so great! And she's done every talk show with funny versions of it. They have her on singing here a medley of her songs from Jagged Pill And the whole audience is enthralled. It's all women, middle-aged women mostly. Is this an ISO of her mic? I hope so! No that ISO is the... do you have an ISO over here? What does it say? You have an ISO but that says something else. Yeah I have an ISO but that says Barbie. Well let's see if we listen to Alana's Morse set

1:56:53 on what is it called? No, I still have to set it up more. Okay. I'm not sure there's only a little clip of her singing. I'm not sure but I think she went off the rails as she was wrapping up one song and then went off key and as she went off key they gave her around of applause! Tell me I'm wrong. You've got some measure up make me prouder That was pretty wrong. Yeah, I was pretty pathetic It was horrible it might have sounded good in the in the room though the room could find everything the rooms Let's see how it could Very very very strange lady. I do not understand what she's doing and she used to be like friends with a

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Autonomous Cars, 2015 Industry Review

A review of the autonomous car industry in 2015 highlights Tesla's "Autopilot" system and testing by Google in Austin and Mountain View. Looking toward 2016, the report mentions potential Apple car rumors and the upcoming unveiling of a prototype by the mysterious company Faraday Future.

autonomous cars· tesla· autopilot· faraday future· google

1:57:59 with Madonna and then that all kind of ended, and poo-poo-poo. Before we go to our bigger break John our conversation about Google self driving car brought up a lot of comments. Yeah I mean I understand why everyone's on my side No not everyone is on your side for sure not Those only people that are doing at the real Dvorak. Yeah, well please there's tons of people saying I'm team Adam Okay Let us catch up with a little report I think is from Bloomberg about the self-driving car industry 2015 was a really big year for autonomous cars and driver assisted technology No, I'm sorry It's USA today Of course because they're all in now Google continues to press ahead with its testing of autonomous cars in Mountain View and Austin Texas

1:58:54 Tesla made news in 2015 for unveiling a system it calls Autopilot, which actually allows its car to steer itself on the highway. Meanwhile companies like Ford BMW and Audi are adding new driver assist technology to their cars taking over everything from braking to parking from drivers and looking ahead into 2016 Well, there continue to be rumors that Apple might be building an autonomous or some kind of electric car. And in January Faraday Future a somewhat mysterious company plans to unveil at the Consumer Electronics Show some sort of prototype

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Roko's Basilisk, AI Thought Experiment

The concept of "Roko's Basilisk" is explored, a thought experiment suggesting that a future super-intelligent AI might retroactively punish those who did not help bring about its existence. The discussion links the theory to the incentives of capitalism and the potential for AI to be an "alien mental illness" from outer space.

roko's basilisk· artificial intelligence· capitalism· thought experiment· bill gates

1:59:34 It all spells big changes for both venerable automakers and technology companies that all want to get into what essentially is the changing nature of transportation. Essentially, the change- the changing nature... Well that's what everybody wants obviously and I'm not going to be we're not going to open the debate because our points are clear however there is something new that came in that I had not heard of previously a number of people emailed me about this Rokos Basilisk have you ever heard of this? It already sounds like a joke. Well, it's not a joke! It has a wiki page. Roko? R-O-K-O B-A-S I L-I S K. Rokos Basilisk and the clip explains it... Before you start searching John just listen to the clip. I'm not going to search. I'm gonna suggest that this is some sort of bacteria

2:00:25 It's analogous to a bacteria, yes. Here is a millennial explaining it to us from YouTube So there is this thing called Rocco's Basilisk which starts out with a presupposition that like super artificial intelligence is on the horizon Like we are going to create no matter what That ultimate cyberpunk come-to-Jesus meeting is on the calendar and just a question of when not if And so therefore wouldn't make sense this super Samantha or whatever that's coming for us would retroactively punish anybody who didn't help bring about its existence. That's what Rocco's Basilisk is, like you should work to create a hyper artificial intelligence capable of destroying humanity because if you help you will be spared! So far so bummer right? The people who are working to create artificial intelligence are already being rewarded by

2:01:14 the hundreds of millions of dollars that people like Bill Gates get. And so maybe the rewards and incentive systems of capitalism were created by this artificially intelligent thing that will someday destroy us it planted the seeds of its own creations. And maybe this whole process began and will end on Earth but maybe it came from somewhere else That's what makes us really interesting we're talking about the possibility that capitalism is in alien mental illness that we picked up from outer space you're gonna get it. Which actually makes it a little more merciful than most religions because even if you don't know about Jesus, you're still going to hell or purgatory depending on who you talk to

2:01:50 Neither one's a holiday in Express, but here's the thing what defines helping the cause of the hyper intelligent being right just by knowing about it and talking about it or Hearing about it on a podcast like I did then spreading. It to you like we're at a cocktail party Haven't you already done your part? This is why thought experiments are bullshit I'd like this ending drugs are these kids using Adderall by Vance versus nice house, wife, nice kids. And I think that's the thing is you're going to have a lot of people who are not going to be able to participate in this because they don't know how to do it and they just want to get away from it. So if we can make sure that everyone has access to all these things, then there'll be no problem with that. But again, I'm not saying that it's bad or anything like that. It's just,

2:02:48 I see that this is the stretch. Okay? Yes, because I support to take over of the by the robots well yeah You support the takeover by the Google car That's a robot no I do support that because it's just bound to happen No, it was not good for this society But if we know it's not gonna have okay you can stay in your condo man Or my airstream whichever one I can afford the airs the trailer that can afford that okay now you're pushing me It is not a trailer new trailer. I play ISO Barbie. I'm a little tired of your trailer phobia It's just getting on my nerves Is this the programmable Barbie yeah, what?

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Hello Barbie, Smart Toy Privacy Risks

"Hello Barbie" and other "smart toys" are identified as significant privacy risks due to their reliance on cloud servers to process children's conversations. Security experts warn that these devices can be hacked, potentially exposing family data and allowing unauthorized access to the home environment.

hello barbie· smart toys· privacy· hacking· cloud servers

2:03:46 There's a whole story, actually I have this short clip of it somewhere in here. That's just the ISO that I thought was funny. Well you might as well do the whole thing then where is it? Smart toys. I guess its smart toys. Well some of the hottest toys this holiday season could put your family's privacy at risk. Consumer Watch reporter Julie Watts on why some security experts are advising parents to steer clear of so-called smart toys. What color riding helmet are you going Pink. Six-year old Charlotte and Hello Barbie can talk about anything Are you ready to choose a horse for our pretend ride? But what they say may not stay just between friends Oh yeah, I remember this story It goes on they got servers apparently Miss Tell's got a server farm that they deal with so then you talk to the stupid doll it sends your whatever you ask to some...I think in a sense is just a message to India Well you know what this is gonna be good for

2:04:41 Hacking this is gonna be great. Let's hack in and make all the story was about hacking yeah Oh, yeah hacking into it I can set little girls everywhere six-year-olds Barbie doll Do you know that can use? Yeah this this cloud stuff from here at Social Security number Just get their wallet just get the one you have to get the wall at the reliability people place on technology just because the iPhone kind of works And it doesn't all the time. It crashes, it burps, it farts... There's crappy software everywhere People believe they can put and trust their children to this thing that's coming from the cloud

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Washington State, Inmate Release Glitch

A computer coding error in Washington State's Department of Corrections led to the early release of over 3,000 inmates since 2002. Governor Jay Inslee described the 13-year-old glitch as "unforgivable," noting that the problem was only addressed after a victim's family performed their own sentencing calculations.

washington state· department of corrections· inmate release· computer glitch· jay inslee

2:05:18 Nuts, nuts. Here's a good glitch! Today Governor Inslee and the Department of Corrections revealed that a computer error allowed more than 3,000 offenders to get out of prison early And that's not all The DOC delayed fixing the mistake for years Even after learning about the problem from the family of a victim It is an unforgivable error That much is agreed upon, but what we don't know tonight. What caused a DOC computer glitch which led to the early release of as many as 3200 offenders since 2002? And how did the issue go undetected and unresolved for so long that this problem was allowed to continue to exist for 13 years is deeply disappointing

2:06:02 It is totally unacceptable and frankly it is maddening. The glitches being described as a computer coding problem miscalculated good time credits for a group of inmates with enhanced sentences an enhancement could stem from having a weapon to the location of a crime according to DOC this good time glitch went undetected until 2012 Did she say good time glitch? Yeah, she said good time. I like that when a victim's family was notified of an offenders upcoming release the family did its own calculation determined that the offender was getting out earlier than the court had ordered and contacted the department to ask why this was happening but despite the discovery of a problem DOC says the fix was repeatedly delayed and senior leadership wasn't briefed until just last week

2:06:54 Yeah. What state was this in? Washington, there's 3000 criminals roaming around your house up there and the IRS not a big...not a very big announcement but I'll read from This is from the... Yeah, this is one of those government IT websites. IRS programming glitch costs millions in errant tax refunds! Now I will say, I received a tax refund two days ago which makes zero cents. It was errant? Yes. How much was it? A thousand dollars Wow! Yeah and I just cashed it

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Yale University, First Amendment Repeal Petition

Prankster Ami Horowitz successfully gathers over 50 signatures from Yale University students on a petition to repeal the First Amendment. The stunt highlights the "safe space" culture on elite campuses, where students appeared willing to sign away fundamental constitutional rights to avoid "hurt feelings."

yale university· first amendment· ami horowitz· safe spaces· free speech

2:08:23 This was a petition at Yale and this is the guy. You saw this one? Yeah, it's great I'm glad you have this clip Okay just play it A prankster has challenged students at a top American university by asking them to sign a petition to repeal The First Amendment of the US Constitution effectively giving up freedom of speech and other fundamental liberties Now wasn't this Dice who did this that guy what's his name No no this is somebody else I don't think it was Dice. They say his name in here, alright? The First Amendment protects the freedom of speech, the freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press and oh yeah... Freedom Of Petition! What we're calling for is a petition to repeal the first amendment just get rid of it blowed up! I think this is fantastic absolutely agree Thank you Excellent Love It

2:09:17 I'll sign it for you, Guzman. Alright, appreciate it. Because I appreciate what you're trying to do. I think the Constitution should be one big safe space right? It hurts people's feelings. Yeah, no. It should not protect speech. No of course. Good feel that's great! Thank You, I appreciate it. Ami Horowitz got over 50 people in one hour to sign his petition at Yale University Freedom of Speech has been the focus of debate on campuses across America but a Horowitz had chosen Yale for a specific reason You know, I wanted to obviously make it a very prestigious school and Yale is one of the most prestigious schools. And I also chose Yale because if you remember there's this whole free speech debate that's going on on campus across the United States. There was this one amazing video... It is not about creating an intellectual state! It is not! Do you understand that? It's about creating a home here!

2:10:06 It went viral all over the country, and I thought Yale is the place we've got to do this video on. I thought maybe if I got two or three signatures maybe I can do something with that but even then i though it's not going really work but when I realized that the majority of kids that I spoke with were signing away the most precious fundamental right that Americans have it shocked me blew me away and I have to say it really really saddened me And to be fair, I saw the long video with all of the morons at Yale. Obviously we're only seeing the morons so you don't know how many... Of course that's why you do these things! But it was very funny. It is very funny. The Constitution should be one giant safe place People sign anything they always- That's why like your approach

CHAPTER 48 / 59 Discussion

Retail Line Karma, Racial Speed Observations

A personal anecdote regarding "line karma" at Target leads to a controversial observation about the speed of retail checkers. The speaker claims that, in their experience, African American checkers are consistently faster and more efficient than their white counterparts, leading to a strategy of specifically choosing those lines.

target· line karma· racial observations· retail· customer service

2:10:54 We might have to repeat it if people haven't heard. Yeah, well it requires a little bit of thinking and reprogramming because its spur-of-the moment stuff but for instance you're walking down the street and you have saved the children they say hey would you like to save children today then your response should be no I hate children! And just keep walking There's other things you can do...I've done it It's a riot I tell you, it was in Berkeley there's all these people that are always around Monterey Foods. And which reminds me to... Well we're at it after I sit and tell you this little anecdote and I'm gonna bitch again about people in line. So I go by the guys, somebody whales because you walk by them not interested or say, I don't like whales which is your idea or I am against it. I always say no, no, I would say nuke the gay whales. Nuke the gay whales?

2:11:48 It's just a wise ass. I'm trying so we're shopping at Tarjay and there's a there's and i'm having trouble this only happens once in awhile, you usually have pretty good line karma which is the karma where there's a bunch of people in line, the distances are pretty much equal. You pick a line and you hope that you get through the line faster than normal." And I'm...I have a racist...I'm racist when it comes to this and I'm gonna explain that because my wife says, "'You're a racist.'" My racist comment is if the checker that's working their register is black go there

2:12:35 That's very racist of you, John. Why is this? What is it? They're fast! They actually do a better job So why are black Americans faster than white Americans I think they just like the competition or something...I don't know It just always surprises me how much faster they are But they crank and I always compliment them at the end Always it's sometimes and you can if you go to a Costco, you can just sit back and watch You see one line moving like a son of a bitch in one line nothing. So again the fast-moving lines always some black guy Just cranking away And so I always say to them, you're fast. And they always really appreciate the compliment. Oh well, I should try that some day but I think you should say You're much faster than them white people. I think you should try that doing now Okay That would really this happened at Target by the way got in the wrong line with some woman

2:13:24 Checker is obviously a part-timer and there's a black guy, and I don't know why didn't go in the black guys like cuz he just cleared the line I'm still standing behind this this amateur couple of students from University of California obviously Why white guy with his Chinese girlfriend? Cal student typical good looking woman by the way she's about 21 And she can use the thing with the credit card oh She said, no, no, I was gonna scan it. She's dicking around she's looking what does this mean? He sees pointing push that push that and is taking forever the woman that is a checker she decides to get into a long conversation with him that turned the thing around and she says No, you want this so then at the one of these it's a debit card I suppose and she decides to get cash back And we're sitting there waiting his other lines done. I'm waiting wait awaiting. She guess he wants cash back in quarters

2:14:18 So she's just doling out, she got a crack in the couple quarters things asking the next guy to check her over there is enough. You had eight quarters? I mean what quarters?! They're messing with your busy life! I cannot believe that they are ruining... you know what when you get a black checker who does good work you should tip that person here Here's a dollar. You're great! That I'm not doing either. You're much better than Whitey. You're trying to get me in trouble, I admit it to the moment of racism but i'm not going make clear that anybody that that is the case. Alright. Go to a black checker believe me just go to the black checker. This is like... I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do this Oh yeah they'd be fine!

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Christmas Eve Donations, Blue Ridge Baronet

The final donation segment features a large contribution from Sir Atomic Rod Adams, Baronet of the Blue Ridge. Other notable donors include Don Borosky, who sent a note on "United Federation of Planets" stationery, and several international producers from Canada, France, and New Zealand.

atomic rod adams· don borosky· federation of planets· vicky costec· donations

2:16:06 It's the tuba. The tuba? Yeah, and you're like oh this will come in handy and I'm playing like it's a music thing whatcha going on here yeah this is what you gave me so it'd be nice for the donation segment for today play it play play me through with the tube just looping all right yeah I'm looping you're good to go Dame Beth Baronetis of Baja Tucson Arizona 120-206 he came in with Ohio belated birthday you have it on the 17 year old niece Miss Elizabeth I think we did. Wasn't this from last time? I don't know. Yeah, yeah...I don't know. Morris Consulting and Las Wages Nevada 77 so hold on a second okay i'm reading from last week's spreadsheet that's why now bring us some bready pudding figgy pudding

2:16:54 Okay, here we go. Now I'm on the right spreadsheet. I think we're at Sir Atomic Rod Adams! Sir Atomic Rod sent... and by the way he sent in enough to be placed in the... He sent a bunch of little donations but they add up over 200 bucks so he will be mentioned as a... at least when we're done, he will be the associate executive producer. Ah very good So we can read these notes It came in with one, top donation was 12345. Merry Christmas from Atomic Insights and Sir Atomic Rod Adams, baronet of the Blue Ridge! This is the first of several donations meant to send both good cheer and increase the physical size of your donation spreadsheet. Yo yo! Because we bitched about that last time... Okay onward David Hoffman 12345 from Enola Pennsylvania Was there no another? David Joseph Calvet

2:17:47 Cavaletto in Auburn, California. 1111 followed by Clay Gilliland or Jill-a land or Gilliland in Chandler Arizona 1111 Donald Borosky and Spokane Valley oops oh that's the United Federation of Planets guy yeah when he read them when you get When you get your note on official federation And they can't find a note there it is And when you get a note that's on official United Federation of Planets stationary, it has to be read. Sir John and Adam... Dear John and Adam I'm celebrating a year of listening and donating to NOA by sending you a sack of ones. Long live and prosper! I look forward to sending you a sack of twos this time next year. Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles

2:18:43 Don Borosky WA 60MI 73. 73 is Keto Fox 5 Sierra Lima November Spokane Valley Washington. Hey, I got my 80 meter loop up yesterday. Yeah, I heard that Vicky Costec in Maple Ontario one oh one oh one which is nice by the way he said she says your analysis keeps me grounded. Sir Ian of the butchered name and you nailed it Montreal Quebec

2:19:19 Ben Smith in Greenville, Texas. $100. Allen Fletcher in Bothell, Washington. $100. And that's Kilo Golf 7, Kilo Hotel Papa. Seven threes. Herbert Harms in Durham, North Carolina. 100. Chris Schouler In Wellington, it's a kiwi Chris sir Kiwi Oh kiwi Chris Dennis Sturckow in Seaside Park New Jersey Trevor I'm missing the tuba like Trevor Merkin and Bubbery Bubbery France That's true. He always another one did he do too? I guess oh we'll have to add that to his Yeah because he did tooth so he'll be an executive producer

CHAPTER 50 / 59 Discussion

Howard Stern, SiriusXM vs Podcasting

A donor mentions canceling their SiriusXM subscription in favor of supporting the No Agenda podcast. This prompts a discussion on Howard Stern's dismissive comments about podcasting, which the hosts interpret as a reaction to the growing competition from independent digital media.

howard stern· siriusxm· rob leggett· podcasting· radio competition

2:20:07 With 333.33 total, there you go David Oliver in Calistoga California 100 Ralph Johnson Lake Isabella 100 Down to 9999 with Rob Leggett Hey! Niner niner Did you see what he says? He says I've cancelled my serious Radio XM subscription Instead I will be contributing to the best podcast in universe that it offers far more value. This is exactly why Howard Stern says podcasting is for losers because It's competition and we're beating him well not in the pocketbook well, not me but collectively yeah Serious radio is for old has-beens

2:20:58 That's getting back at him. Yeah, I'll show him he can't say nothing about me now because no one will hear it. That's the point and Matthew Hurtert in Bowlesburg, Pennsylvania 9999 Chase Tomlinson in Austin Sir Craig Porter, Council Bluffs Iowa 7840. Michael Kearns in Kansas City Missouri 6969. Sir Craig Kuttner in Norwalk Connecticut 6969 Alex Doty in Brisbane

2:21:37 Queensland, Australia 6969 Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington 6933 Rodney M Adams in Forest Virginia 6789 Thomas Hitler Hit holler hit holler it holler. It holler, but he is from Vienna was kind of funny yeah His real name was If Allah that's his name not a Hitler Keith Tyler it Tyler Haley Tyler He's my son Adolf Probably not a good joke there

2:22:21 Sir Brian Warden in Downs, Illinois 6433 Kevin Dill sir Kevin Dills and Charlotte North Carolina 6432 Gina Brown 6378 parts unknown Ryan Young and Buckeye Arizona $62 Jason Aubrey Foreman air Arkansas's 5678 He says he's near. He needs a but he says he's he needs of deed property douching I think we should just give him the one right there gratuitously You've been D douched Wow Christopher ballet belly. Yeah, belly up la belaya I'm not sure Ashland Virginia 5678 the Dame bang-bang bang bang in in Buelton

CHAPTER 51 / 59 Discussion

Final Donor Roll, Dame Bang-Bang

The hosts complete the donor roll, acknowledging Dame Bang-Bang for her contribution and a book regarding a ground report from Syria. Dozens of other producers are thanked for their "value for value" support as the show nears its conclusion.

dame bang-bang· syria· donations· value for value· karma

2:23:10 California she said a card. Oh, that's nice yes with it is a very pretty car too isn't it nice and she said something Happy ITM and happy holidays thought you and Adam would enjoy this book or she sent me a book oh I Helped my friend publish this book don't worry It wasn't at it was I sent one to Adam Direct its a book on the ground report from my friends in Syria, okay Okay, you got a copy. I haven't received it yet. You will get one okay Christopher gray in Covington Louisiana 5555 sir dh slammer ah Dame bang-bang threw in a few extra dimes and got ahead of him very nice is she beat him by $4 and Yeah, buck four knife sense He came at 5533 thank you for your courage

2:24:06 Michael Birch in Port Townsend, Washington 5510. Double Nichols on the dime Scott Waldherr in Middleton Wisconsin same thing Jason Doolin and Los Wages Nevada 5510 Andy Benz in St Louis Missouri 3510 William Laroque, another double nickels on the dime from Locust North Carolina. Sir Christopher Walker Baron of Brown County De Pere Wisconsin 5432. Sir D.H Slammer again 5432 and a lot of interesting donations here that are doubling up John Cruz in Evergreen Colorado 5335 Jim Burlingame in Bergen New York 5280

2:24:48 Mile High Club anonymous, mile high member in Eagle Idaho 5280. Brian Massey Hartford Connecticut 5280 down to another anonymous 5225 and read for me while I go to turn the phone off. And Isaac Piggott of course we know him from the anal leakage from Trustville wait Uh, that's not anal leakage. That's uh... Try to know what I did now. Eh, shock! That's right- I'm shocked people- Not more people are supporting the show around here. Yeah we played those earlier. Eric Hochul Berlin Deutschland with 52 Sir Graham Dunlop 5150 Calgary Alberta Eric Schmidt Frankfurt also 5150 Josh Mandel Greenville South Carolina 5102 Roger- And? I'll take the 50s

2:25:41 Roger Estes, The Last 50 When You're Right. Yeah hold on hold on are you ready for the last fifties? Ready ready ready? Well I still got the fifty-fifties. Okay there you go. Robert Goschko Earl of Alberta Brian Kaufman in Phoenix Arizona these are both fifty-fifties and we dropped Sir Herb Lamb in Sugar Hill Georgia 53 Levi Wagner 5033 from Manitowoc Wisconsin. Ross Thomas, North Perth. North Perth? Hmm! 1524 now the rest of the $50 donors in order uh of the spreadsheet and time and place and name Shane Rzdilski in Saskatoon David Joyner in Oroville California Mary Ann Sabia in Torrington Connecticut

2:26:28 David Ellis in Crystal Lake, Illinois. Q Nonimous in Baltimore Maryland Norman Pearson and Mac in Georgia Gerald Parker in Raleigh North Carolina we have a good we could be giant meetup in North Carolina for sure I've go Sir Chris Whidden in Millboro, Virginia Joe Schwartz Bauer in Florissant Missouri Jason Kotling parts unknown Macy Stolowski in Calgary Canada Sandy Geisler and Watkinsville Georgia Robert Hill and Aberdeen

2:27:09 Michael Madaloni in Parts Unknown, Brandon Menk in Tempe Arizona. Sir Patrick Maycomb to you in New York City. Andrew Martin in Torella, NSW Jason Daniels, Parts Unknown, Daniel Laboe in Bath Michigan Mark Tiernauer, what do you think? Tiernauer. Tiernauer. Tiernauer. North again Virginia. Yes yes. Need a sip Mark, yeah okay. Sir Benjamin Smith over here in Oak Town. Sir Mark Tanner in Whittingham California Joshua Defabo or Defa-ba in Alameda California and finally last but not least is Sir David Trotsky in Romeoville Illinois want to thank all these folks fine folks for giving us a nice Christmas gift

CHAPTER 52 / 59 Discussion

Peerage Appointments, Baron of Ann Arbor

The knighting ceremony concludes with Sir Fudge Fountain being elevated to the Baron of Ann Arbor. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony with their "Christmas blades" and offer holiday wishes to the newly appointed members of the No Agenda peerage.

sir fudge fountain· ann arbor· knighting· peerage· christmas eve

2:28:08 Perfect! You timed it perfectly with music. Yeah, with the coffin hole. Good work Mr. Dvorak So there was a meet up in Port... Wow yeah A meet up up in Port Angeles I guess or Squim or someplace up there and I guess that bunch of people showed up like 12 13 people showed up I think thats nice And thats about our group up there Thats a good group Everyone should be thanked profusely for meeting up Yes indeed Who was on the phone? We need more of these Who was on the phone? I don't know I think it was, I don't know. I don't even know why the whole thing was screwy." Well we want to thank everyone especially people who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity a lot of our 3333's in there a lot of other subscriptions thank you so much remember to check them out and renew for the new year your credit card may expire and PayPal just kick you off unceremoniously Thank you for giving us this Christmas gift and thank you God for Donald Trump We really appreciate that

2:29:03 And we'll be back on New Year's Eve. And we near the end of the year, Sir Chris Kidderman says happy birthday to his wife Kristen Kidderman turning 29 today. Josh Mandel says happy birthday to Jesus! Sir Ted Haasman celebrated on the 22nd congratulations for him and Trevor Merkins has a happy birthday through his son Oscar who turned 16 on the 21st Happy Birthday from all

2:29:45 your friends here at the best podcast in the universe. Sir FudgeFountain today becomes Baron of Ann Arbor, congratulations! Very very happy to put him on the peerage list and we have three knights Brian Lawson Ian Garling and Alan Hawes and if we could have all of them up on the stage I got my... do you have your Christmas blade with you Mr. DeMora? Yes it is. Ah very nice We've got hookers and blow, rent boys in Chardonnay. Crickets and cream black holes in MD 2020 Saki and sushi progressive rock and Russian imperial stout

CHAPTER 53 / 59 Discussion

Executive Order, APEC Tariff Changes

A year-end executive order regarding the Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) schedule is analyzed. The order lowers import duties to 5% or less on 54 categories of goods, specifically benefiting Japanese gas turbines and auxiliary plant parts, raising questions about the timing and intent of the tariff changes.

executive order· apec· tariffs· japan· gas turbines

2:30:35 Root beer and Legos, ass cream with bear fillings, porn stars in pot, cannellini, yonga and jambo. And of course we always have some mutton and mead! For you so head on over to no agenda nation comm slash rings Eric the show will hook you up Was there something about them did I read something about the ring something weird was going on yes? He's still Setting their offsize rings out, but he's waiting for the big shipment from China. Oh The most popular ring so some people are gonna stop the wait huh very annoying speaking of which the president executive There was another executive order that came out at the end of the year. Now I'm always a little cautious, so I looked this one up... This is let me see when did this come out? Pretty sure it was an executive order maybe wasn't just a

2:31:33 It hasn't been published yet, I guess. That's very strange... Well it was specifically about something that—I brought it up here—it referenced the—here it is—it referenced a change in the APEC Schedule C—no Part B of Appendix C of Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation And this dates back to 2012, this particular APEC meeting was held in Vladivostok. And the president... I just can't find it for some reason either it's been removed or it's not where I thought it would be The President said in his executive order that we were going to change import duties

2:32:29 of all of the items listed in Appendix C, of the 2012 APEC meeting. 54 categories I should say... ...of goods whose tariff rates are now going to be lowered to 5% or less according to the new harmonized system code So this is about imports and I'm interested. Why did you put that at the end of the year? I guess it had to be done by the end of the year based on some kind of agreements, but what was... What is now being brought down from over 8% in some cases, I think 11 1⁄2%, is the following items from Japan

2:33:13 Auxiliary plant for use with boilers, auxiliary plant for use with boilers. Parts for auxiliary plants used with boilers. Parts for steam and other vapor turbines Gas turbines of power exceeding 5000 kilowatts. Parts of gas turbines Engine and motor parts for gas turbines It's all about Japanese gas turbines! Huh, and I'm thinking what don't we have GE shouldn't we be protecting them? We're just lowering this now to five years bringing a man for GE. That's what it sounds like possible possible Yeah, I thought it was odd well It was just one of those things that no one ever really bothers to look up And I just did it that's like oh Matt Matt was back that was kind of fun

CHAPTER 54 / 59 Discussion

Native Advertising, Coffee Health Studies

The hosts criticize a wave of "native advertising" disguised as news reports claiming that drinking coffee increases survival rates for heart disease and diabetes. They suggest these studies are funded by major coffee corporations like Starbucks or Keurig to drive consumption through health-based marketing.

native advertising· coffee· heart disease· starbucks· keurig

2:33:54 Matt was back in the State Department. Oh, Matt Lee! Right, Matt Lee now he's obviously no longer with Marie and so we don't really get a hold of him... Yeah he's depressed Well he is also on the road a lot I see him all the time and you know he is on his tweeters He's on the plane with the carry, he's traveling around the world. You know for some reason he doesn't get back to home base a lot. Well why should he? Marie is not here. Well you got a good point there and it would be... He's not gonna be dating what's her name that Chen... Chen... Chen... you know the RT girl. Tapu Tata Ching Ching Yeah Tatapu Tata Ching Ching And what is interesting of course is that I set this clip up and then uh I can't find it It's not that interesting

2:34:51 Really? Not interesting. Why is it not interesting because It's just your lament, it's a lament No I know I have a clip from him from Matt I have a clip from Matt Okay hit it Yeah if I could find it then this is what I'm saying You claim that's the interesting but I just didn't think it was That you can't find the clip This is maddening now No, well you'll find it in a second. I got a couple of fillers Yeah give me a filler please What the hell happened? This is gone! Here this was kind of a... Well okay let's play some The worst kind of native advertising has showed up on This wasn't even They didn't tell ya anything Except this has been going on all the networks and it's getting on my nerves This coffee bowl crap Play this clip Hold on a second Coffee Bowl Crap what is the name of the clip

2:35:42 Coffee bulls up. Sorry guys a new study says that drinking coffee might actually increase your survival rate The 10 year old studies show that people who drank coffee Regularly were less likely to die from things like heart disease and diabetes when compared to those who don't drink coffee at all In fact, the more coffee a person regularly drinks scientists found a lower risk of dying. Now if you're thinking you like the health benefits but not the caffeine apparently this same outcome goes for those who only drink decaf. Oh please! Oh yeah sure! So please... This is Starbucks they're paying out God knows how much money or Keurig They are paying all this money and I've heard on every network it comes and goes oh you drink coffee gonna live forever

CHAPTER 55 / 59 Discussion

Vitality Air, Bottled Canadian Air

A Canadian company, Vitality Air, is capitalizing on poor air quality in China by selling bottled air from the Rocky Mountains in aerosol cans. The product features a mouthpiece that users, including parents for their children, use to inhale "fresh" air as a countermeasure to urban smog.

vitality air· canada· china· air pollution· aerosol

2:36:28 This bull, this is nonsense. There's no way! I'm not going to dispute it. I mean sure it's good for you. I drink coffee and like coffee Alright, I have a couple of year-end clips that just throw in there Just crazy crazy stuff From the BBC we have a Chinese woman with her child Of course the air quality very poor in many parts of China And she... Red alert! The Canadians, Candanavians have capitalized on this and capitalize on the bad air. My name is Tanya, I'm a full-time mom and gave birth in 2013 so now she's almost three years old. When I read the news first time there were two young men from Canada who invented this bottled air. I trust this product

2:37:19 It's very easy. You open the cap here and pull up this cover, put it here then you press Inhale, that's it. Very simple okay so you can get the fresh air from Rocky Mountain in Banff Canada So it is an aerosol can't think of this I know It's this is this has no agenda products written all over it It's an aerosol can it looks like a big can of hairspray And it's got like this you flipped the top over and it has like a mouthpiece and she jams it onto The kids face and then presses the button

CHAPTER 56 / 59 Discussion

See Something Say Something, Public Altercations

A "see something, say something" report involves a woman whose physical ailments may have affected her perception of a public altercation. The incident, which involved shouting and insults, was investigated by police due to the country's heightened state of alert regarding potential threats.

see something say something· police· heightened alert· public safety

2:38:00 And this fresh rocky mountain air is spewing into the kids face and the kid's like, hmm. I love it It's so much better than what we have outside a pathetic inside as a good Just run her hair to a heap of filter inside the house and she's good to go Then, from the see something say something category. getting calls from overseas about the incident. Police Chief Michael Cass says this incident was blown a little out of proportion, but understands the country's heightened state of alert. We encourage people to you know if they see something say something so we don't discredit story. We investigated it as best we could with knowledge that we have The chief said the woman's physical ailments possibly affected what she heard

2:39:05 I love that story. and they yell at each other. I'm having sex with you, dirty Jew! She yells at him and he just yells some insult to her and they're screaming it's...I have to find it or somebody out there if they have it. It shouldn't be that hard to find The sex scene is quite funny Alright That would be a cool one for end of show if someone had it Alright one more Now this is a little concerning Of course in the gun conversation we need to have in this country

CHAPTER 57 / 59 Discussion

Hawaii Gun Permits, Medical Clearance Dispute

The Honolulu Police Department (HPD) is requiring gun permit applicants to provide a doctor's note clearing them of mental health issues or addiction. Major healthcare providers like Kaiser Permanente are refusing to sign the specific letters, arguing that the law does not require doctors to make "medical clearance determinations" for firearm ownership.

hawaii· gun permits· kaiser permanente· mental health· hpd

2:39:54 One of the options is the states can pretty much do anything they want. January 1st in Austin we will have open carry of any kind of firearm, you will for handguns... ...you will have to have your concealed carry permit in order to carry open which'll be interesting for the very blue state, very blue city of Austin and the red state of Texas But in Hawaii, they've taken it to the level where we already expected this would be. And when we have a conversation about the mental health of people in this country... Mental health which means you know this is the regulations being pushed for that we heard from Miss Universe.

2:40:33 is one of the main problems. If you have a mental problem, then you should not be able to purchase a gun." The question, of course, is where do you draw the line at mental health problems? Is it someone on Adderall or Vyvanse or is it kids on Ritalin or is it someone who's just been to see a therapist or has done some breathing exercises Hawaii is a step ahead of everybody. Well, whose strict gun permitting process is not only confusing some say it's unfair and tonight a new dispute the Honolulu Police Department is requiring a doctor's note that many doctors are not willing to write right now It's unclear how many medical providers are having similar issues But we do know for sure Kaiser is not willing to write the letter HPD is requiring Now their reason seems to be twofold

2:41:18 First is the general liability issue and Kaiser says their process for handling gun permit requests is in line with other local health care organizations. Secondly though, the wording of the letter as HPD is demanding it implies the applicant has prior medical concerns they may not have. Prior medical concerns? Love that! This is what HPD's now handing out to gun permit applicants. It requires a doctor to sign a letter stating the individual shall own, possess or control any firearm or ammunition and has been medically documented to be no longer adversely affected by addiction abuse dependence mental disease disorder or defect

2:41:57 HPD says the gun permit process requires a letter from a medical provider stating whether the provider has records relating to the applicant's mental health history or treatment. Kaiser Permanente says the law does require them to release health information to HPD, but it does not require doctors to give a medical clearance determination. The police department is the only organization who can evaluate an individual's fitness to acquire or own a firearm. Healthcare organizations and providers do not make these evaluations Huh. Yeah, that's how it's gonna go! That's how it's going to go and then meanwhile of course the only people that would be having guns would be cops you have to listen to this weird shooting in LA story and I'll describe what somebody got a video

CHAPTER 58 / 59 Discussion

Los Angeles Sheriff, Noel Aguilar Shooting Video

Newly released cell phone footage contradicts initial police reports regarding the shooting of Noel Aguilar in Los Angeles. The video appears to show deputies shooting Aguilar in the back while he was pinned to the ground, after a deputy's own gun accidentally discharged during the struggle.

los angeles· sheriff· noel aguilar· police shooting· cell phone video

2:42:42 Unfortunately for the cops. Oh, yeah I've seen this. Yeah, I've seen it. Newly released cell phone footage appears to show Los Angeles Sheriff's deputies shooting a man in the back as he lies pinned to the ground Last May deputy stopped Noel Aguilar from riding his bike with headphones Authorities initially claimed Aguilar shot one of the deputies as they were handcuffing him but officials later revealed the shot came from the other deputy's gun Video just released by OC Weekly shows Aguilar pinned to the ground, asking one of the deputies why he has his gun out. The deputy fires a shot into Aguilar's stomach. Then the second deputy fires three shots at Aguilar. An attorney for Aguilar's family said the shooting, quote, seems like it is murder."

2:43:28 So they show this thing, two cops on top of this guy. One guy casually pulls out what looks like a sub snub nose 38, pulls it out while he's got his knee in the guys back just pulls it out casually very quickly to like he has a quick draw thing because that boom pumps through two or three bullets. Yeah boom boom boom just like that sticks the gun right back into its holster just instantly and the other guy's got his gun I guess he shot him a couple times too And they were all like, it was what? Are you kidding me? Somebody got a video of it and you watch this and it's just like they just got this kid down. They decided to fill him full of lead. It was pretty bad. Yeah these guys are not going to work out for them now. All right let's end the show on a high note. Yes

CHAPTER 59 / 59 Discussion

Seattle Pot Shops, Show Outro

The show concludes with a report on record holiday sales at Seattle pot shops and a mention of the "Santa Net" on 80-meter ham radio. The hosts sign off with final holiday greetings and a reminder of their upcoming New Year's Eve broadcast.

seattle· marijuana· santa net· 80 meters· new year's eve

2:44:19 It is in most parts still Christmas Eve. You still have some time for some shopping pot appears to be a popular stocking stuffer this year in Seattle an employee at the pot shop in Fremont tells my Northwest that sales and the past two days are the best that they've been since the store has opened He also said one of the most popular gifts is a comically large joint that sells for $80 This is what I want. I finally know what I want for Christmas a I want the comically large joint that sells for $80. Yes, yes! Oh Santa oh yes. I participated in the Santanet last night on 80 meters. Oh what does that do? No we track Santa just like NORAD. Oh did you finally get a hold of him? Does Santa have a rig? Yeah yeah no we didn't talk to Santa We just see-I saw his sleigh flying over Austin Texas for all the little young hams out there listening on 80 meters

2:45:15 Mm-hmm All right, buddy we will be back in a few days for our New Year's Eve No, no. What do you mean? No? Oh, we're got a show on Sunday New Year's Eve That's what I said We'll be back on Sunday for New Year's Eve know new year's eve is the neck then we have a Thursday show before new years and Isn't that New Year's Eve? Isn't Monday New Year's Friday new year. I don't know what day is it? New Years is next Friday, I don't know what I'm talking about so we have a show I know you've been doing this the whole show and I've been meaning to ask you What you're talking about well let me just show on Sunday then we have a show in New Year's Eve We have two shows what now a news years yeah, oh geez okay? Well there you go

2:46:02 Donate to our show remember I had that you've or act org slash na. Yes always condemned by the family for thinking Christmas is December 24th Hey, John Thank you for your courage and damned for this thank you for your courage You can do well Thank you for your courage and Merry Christmas to you And I may all be any all the rest of that saying whatever it is I can't remember play the tuba Okay, okay. All right. We'll play the tuba will end with the tuba how about that? Okay fine? Well extend it just a little bit Everyone coming down to your place for Christmas Everybody but Eric ok well good. He deserves a lump of coal I

2:46:48 That's right everybody, we'll be back on Thursday. That's the show before the last show of the year. We'll be back on Sunday. Eh whatever I've been hitting the egg nog that's the problem. What? Apparently. I shouldn't be hitting the egg nog in this schlitz during this show Coming to you from downtown Austin in the crackpot condo In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's suddenly cleared up and the sky is blue! Holy mackerel, I am John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda. Nah nah nah nah Nah nah nah nah Nah nah nah nah Nah nah nah nah no no no no no no no no no nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah

2:47:43 Hey. What are you going to wear? Pink I want to get a gun and learn how to use it. Get out there and whoop Obama's behind! Whoopee, whoopee, what the class-titution? Get out there and whoopee, whoopee, what the class-tution? Oh, I remember that! Oh my gosh! Oh my God, I used to love that! Oh my god

2:48:49 Can you see that juice? Get out of my vagina! I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena. Somebody whose name was... I can't even remember his last name, I think his first name may have been Ben. A dude named Ben And wash your hands after touching any raw meat. Adios, mofo. The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak dot org slash N-A Amen fist bump