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00:00 And we see the tents are burning. Tents are being burnt? Adam Curry, John C Devorah It's Sunday October 25th 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 768 This is no agenda Wielding the mighty power of the rain stick of revelation and broadcasting live from the capital, the drone star state here in FEMA Region 6 Austin Texas. In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where we're maybe waiting for some rain on Wednesday We got nothing going on. I'm John Cedar It's Black Bottom Buzzkill In The Morning! Now i can't think of a better opening for our 8th anniversary show Great Jack Actually it officially is on Thursday

00:42 It's on Thursday? Yeah, the anniversary is tomorrow. Oh so we're not celebrating today? Well yeah okay we can celebrate play that little thing. I worked on that all weekend! Yeah fantastic Okay so officially will celebrate on Thursday Good Yeah, Thursday good. That's what we do all the second tell the executive associate executive producers who? Contributed to 1026 I gotcha. Gotcha hey so there's some good news I Found that this is I think the theme of today show is gonna be just big duds

01:35 Big guns? Well the good news is, it rained. Yeah And I'm on the mend Oh yeah well this happened during last show You were on the mend No last show we were waiting for the rain- no last show was horrible No, last show you said it was raining. It just started you're right but now I actually slept through the whole night and didn't wake up at 4 in the morning coughing my guts out. You still sound like crap! Thank-you John and I love you too. When it sounds like this time you sound congested. I am completely congested but all of the symptoms are kind of gone and I think we need to investigate this sudden change in weather

02:18 It was the rain stick. Thank you! I mean, does it get any more coincidental that we shake the rain...I mean we were shaking the rainstick big time and these things always have a delay when we do it on the show this doesn't work when I'm just standing here shaking by myself or you are. It only works when we do it on... Oh its one of those like the um Lot of these well anyway, well I'm not going to discount the power of the rain stick Well the rain stick and that people hear this thing you know They all vibe into it. That's gonna ring yeah We've flooded too many places we get a lot of complaints my way pretty much broke formula one here in Austin I Have people from who are at Formula One who are with teams Saying please do not shake the rainstick anymore on Twitter

03:06 Yes, I've noticed this. You wrecked the formula! The US single-handedly ruined... Well they'll race it'll just be going slow going that's all but this... They don't race when it's raining Oh yeah they do oh yes they do We're talking about they put on well rain tires and they go slow They won't go around this definitely don't do NASCAR when it's raining right but formula one You know they they do more than just turn you know left. That's bullcrap There's plenty of road races in NASCAR Okay I Don't give a crap one way or the other hi, don't care about Formula One the city is filled with douchebags I'm glad it's raining so I don't have to look at him there all in buses with darkened windows

03:56 And they can't and they can't take the helicopter from the roof of the parking garage to the circuit They now, they're forced actually go by road. Oh, oh my. But you can take a chopper it can fly in the rain Yeah okay this is why you're not a helicopter pilot So helicopters can't fly in the rain? They can fly in the rain but landing in an urban environment with clouds at 500 feet no that's not gonna happen doesn't happen Well, they had the fiasco called the Benghazi hearings. Well no wait let's stick with the rain for a minute. Let's just stick with it. Oh I thought we were done with the rain? No we're not! I need to give you a report. Then we have to transition into the hurricane. That's right! You might call it a perfect storm A cold front that stalled over north and central Texas has been reinforced with remnants of Hurricane Patricia

04:52 I would like to point out that we shake the rain stick and a hurricane named after my first ex-wife shows up. The last thing was that hurricane was a joke. I don't, you know there's only a couple possibilities One it was a joke whatever that means Two It was an outrageously strong storm strongest one we've ever seen in our entire universe It veers off to the right magically and then goes away no one is hurt No property damage everything is gone. It could be it's Occam's razor or it could be completely true Of course yeah, I immediately go to Well how about harp they kicked maybe they could the Navy sent shut down so it can't be not all of heart not all of hearts certainly Not all apart. I will point out that if you triangulate my position to your position on the map and where the hurricane was It's a perfect triangle No, it's a perfect. It's a perfect rainstick triangle And then maybe maybe

05:53 The data that we saw from radar images, which are all satellite. Maybe that was... I say Maybe it was like maybe no one actually sees the hurricane you see another guy standing in the middle of a hurricane holding up a spinning thing Getting to wind speed and there's not a guy sitting up there on the satellite taking pictures. No, it's satellite imagery It's not an actual picture This is the same kind of great data we're getting about global warming And of course they use the word warming as much as they could You know

06:31 This was extremely irritating within, you know even before this people were on the ground reporting about this hurricane. We had Eric Holdhouse writing in... What does he write it? He writes in Slate. Eric Holdhouse is that name ring a bell I'll tell you who he's a minute now headline It's undeniable climate change made Hurricane Patricia worse Yeah, this is the great white hope. We haven't had it since Katrina there has not been one of these since they predicted oh This is the beginning of the end every year There's gonna be these massive hurricanes so this thing comes along somebody gets the numbers wrong That's the 200 miles an hour the way I see it yeah, and I've worked in laboratories I know what happens once about somebody puts a wrong one too many digits now listen to this So this was the guy then he wrote his law

07:26 article in Slate. You know, it's obvious that this is... We've been waiting for this to happen. Of course we knew! We've been predicting this and all of this is within the 500 days after climate Armageddon was promised to us. This came out so quickly. This is the guy who when the IPCC report came out in 2012 he tweeted that he was at SFO crying and he vowed never to fly again on an airplane? Remember that guy? No I don't! We talked about it on the show. Yeah, sure we did a big deal and the guy's like And then later he said well at least not for a year I won't fly on an airplane So it was instead of ever again It became a year and this is the guy who wrote this article but even worse they send Martin Savage who is you know? He's one of the older reporters at CNN and whenever there's bullcrap that no one wants to go to they sent him

08:22 And so he's, imagine the screen. Martin Savage on the screen doing this report In the corner there's a box that shows the so-called Doppler radar. And this thing is all over where he's standing, Puerto Vallarta. There's red all over and this is his report. This is that calm before the storm. The air is incredibly still light rain falling and it is intensifying not a breath of wind. If you look out on the ocean... I guess he's in the eye of the storm now. There was nothing, nothing happened that I just showed up in the Bay there it is almost flat as glass. The town itself though this is usually bustling with tourists deserted surge. No surge feel as you drive in police are monitoring and driving through the streets. You see them just moments before air. You could hear an emergency announcement being broadcast on a speaker system here. The tourist hotels have been evacuated they're gone either sent to Guadalajara

09:19 pushing out in major buses or being moved to schools that are up in the hills. The same is true of the people who live here." Meanwhile, in the corner John there's a little Doppler radar box and it's red where he is standing There's you know wash of the hurricane all the way to the other side of Mexico. The stores are all closed restaurants casinos anything in this town is closed They're holding their breath and waiting. What comes next, Jim?

09:58 Well, you know you have to respect the fact that this is a storm that grew with such incredible intensity probably one of the fastest intensifying storms we have ever seen. Ever! And this is exactly an emergency planners worst nightmare. Worst nightmare? You have a major city like- I mean nothing there's no trees there's no video cars overturned This is bull crap Play this clip news hour bad disaster shaping up Okay This is on PBS. And to the west, flooding at a mobile home park picked up trailers and carried them away Today the mayor of Houston appealed to people to keep an eye on what's coming We really encourage folks

10:43 Once the rain starts just stay home and stay off the roads Patricia is already being compared with typhoon Haiyan that left more than 7,300 dead or missing in the Philippines two years ago. And today as waves pounded the Mexican coast one expert warned it is looking like a very bad disaster is shaping up Yeah, the bad disaster shaping up now my favorite one is this one. This is the best hurricane clip And by last night it topped the scale with winds of 200 miles an hour

11:24 prompting dire descriptions from Mexico's weather service. The National Hurricane Center in Miami has determined that this storm is the strongest storm ever seen on the American continent. Additionally, some international experts have already noted that this hurricane is the most powerful hurricane that has ever existed on the planet in all of history. You know, I'm reading everywhere that the NOAA had some gag order. I have no evidence of this but i do know where the climate and weather information comes from well just like climate information and I know where satellite images are not actual images you know they are composite from satellite if they use different kinds of technologies but it's not a picture It is not an actual picture

12:18 So I don't know you know. I do have you can't say these things because then oh there's so many people would know about a great conspiracy Yeah, like so many people know about climate change being bunk They, 30 thousand. Yeah! 30 thousand people yeah. Famous scientists that have signed the documents saying this is bull crap and no you just ignore it that's not the way you do it. That's how it works yeah so luckily they got them to news media all of channels were all in on this and they got lucky that happened on Friday because I didn't have to do these Saturday reports as I had two Saturday reports NBC does have a Saturday report

12:55 They're kind of like wimping out, but my favorite one is the one I'm looking for here which is the one that was- Hurricane on Saturday? Yeah hurricane on Saturday. This is KTVU mornings on 10. This is our local station by the way. Well, good morning to you. Welcome to Mornings on 2. It is Saturday October 24th I'm Claudine Wong and good morning everyone I'm Ross Palumbo topping the news of the news this morning more on Hurricane former hurricane Patricia just a few moments ago that National Hurricane Center downgraded her from a hurricane to a tropical storm and now down to a tropical depression that's right 35 mile per hour winds when it gives

13:31 It actually looks remarkably nice out there. This is the Grand Fiesta Americana Resort in Puerto Vallarta, it's just after 10 in the morning there yeah and things are returning to normal here you can tell that the tropical depression is what about four hours away from here at this point and in this picture right here doesn't look like even the incoming 35 mile an hour winds aren't really that bad but airports in Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta have... They're showing a webcam of this resort, the beach chairs are out nobody's even taking their stuff because they've been evacuated.

14:07 Nothing's moved. I know it's beautiful out so this is the biggest scam i have ever seen but the only thing i can think of john, is that is manipulating the satellite data there's only a couple government outfits that deliver the actual raw data I can't think of anything else either. Either that or maybe... I know it sounds crazy, but... Could be a glitch! It could be. But you know just as incredible as this storm that we've never seen before in all of world history it went away faster than anything we've seen and I mean this should be studied for years how this happened. Boy just hit the... Well I'm going with the thesis that its bad data

14:57 I'm going with the thesis as the rain stick. You don't mind this just is incredibly incredible as what they're saying So the storm starts off as a tropical storm, no big deal. It's floating around and it starts coming in all of a sudden within 24... depending on who you listen to I have different clips one says within 36 hours one says within 20 hours 24 hours it jerks up to 200 miles an hour for some unknown reason they blame it on El Nino and water No that can't be because it needs to be the jet stream The Jet Stream is what fuels

15:33 I'm telling you what they said. Okay, so there's...I've got a bunch of these we can play and none of them say jet stream anything. No but that's how it works! Well that may be how it works but that's not what they're talking about. They're talking about warming and so the thing cranks up but now this is going to be the worst thing in history. Give me a warming clip. I want to hear them say warming They use the word warming all the time. Uh, let's see hurricane overview Saturday or you already have yes No that's Saturday That's that's when they finally figured out this is a dud uh Hurricane overview saturday news hour bad disaster news hour Oh here's a good one This is the news hour doofus a guy from the weather underground who's a big warmist and isn't whether weather underground? Owned now by Yes it is By who Weather channel yeah And who owns the weather channel

16:20 I don't know. We do know this, it was bought by the Rothschilds! Okay the Rothschilds own it so here's the doofus making some excuse I think you'll hear it in here You mentioned that calling this a category 5 which is the top of the Safra Simpson scale Is almost an insufficient description of this storm can you explain? Yes, the SAFR system scale was developed several decades ago and it breaks down hurricanes into five bins category one all the way up to category five. Now most of those bins are about 20 to 30 miles per hour wide you might put it. Category 5 starts at 156 miles an hour but has no ceiling

16:59 It's 156 and up this storm had peak winds of 200 so it was you know 45 miles an hour above the category 5 threshold You might say that if we had a cat 6 and cat 7 that it would fall in the cats of seven range. Whoa, yeah You know, we don't... It's almost as bad as the new earthquake numbers which are no longer Richter scale. This is fantastic! Par storms out when they get so strong in part because once you get to Cat 5 it pretty much destroys everything except a really well constructed building So there's not as much operational significance to it. So at that level of intensity Is that what we're expecting? That it's going to just cause some incredible damage on the coast of Mexico

17:41 Well, fortunately it has weakened a little bit as its approached land. It's still a very powerful hurricane, still a category 5 as in the most recent observations within the last couple hours. Now, the storm surge is going to be pretty significant over a relatively small area and that's another blessing with this storm – it's not a gigantic hurricane but there will an area of a few miles where I would expect very severe destruction And moreover, when it runs into the very steep mountains and hillsides just inland. It's going to be dumping gigantic amounts of rain again over not a gigantic area but there could be tremendous amounts of rain along the way so mudslides and floods are also gonna be a real issue. None of it! And then my understanding is that this storm is likely to continue on

18:22 breaking up somewhat but then heading into the to southern Texas. What are you forecasting for Texas? We're gonna die here! Pretty stout winds there will be some high water along the Texas coast, mainly a lot of rain I mean it could be 6-12 inches of rain in places like Houston and there's an ongoing heavy rain event over Texas already because of separate storms so there's gonna be some very very large local rainfall amounts and Texas is notorious for October systems that bring in tropical moisture and ex hurricanes from the Pacific So this is really something to watch as well. I read from the Business Wire December 2012, EL Rothschild LLC a private investment company led by Chairman Sir Evelyn de Rothschild and CEO Lynn Forrester de Rothschild today announced the signing of a definitive agreement to acquire 70% interest in Weather Channel LP, the world's leading provider of interactive weather graphics and data services for television web and mobile

19:19 These guys provide here, Weather Central has used its hallmark scientific approach to secure customers that include network- Science! Hold on. Science! It's hallmark scientific approach it's like a Hallmark card is fake To secure customers that include network owned and operated television stations independent television stations newspapers websites and individual businesses and consumers So, I know... I know. I sound like a crazy kooky guy. How about this though? Okay you can sound like one but how about if this was the test of the gullibility of all the news service because everyone was in on this it wasn't just CNN and... Well it's science John! The data is the data. That is data Yeah and I like your take on which is little softer Like oh must have been a data flub

20:14 But, you know guaranteed in the next week or two before we hit this big Paris thing where they have sculptures of Noah's Ark animals out on the lawn for some biblical reason we don't understand. You'll see the president say... They're all in on science and yet they've got Noah's Ark out there The President will say just earlier this month We saw the largest hurricane ever in recorded history! Well, your right Yeah that what going to happen That is what they said In recorded history, the largest and worst. Okay let's try this one Hurricane scare on CBS where they couldn't even get anyone on a camera They had to have them call in And CBS News reporter Adrian Bard is in Mexico City tonight

21:01 Scott, Mexican officials are calling Hurricane Patricia a perfect storm. Forecasters expect 15 inches of rain in the next 24 hours. Yeah the perfect storm one that looks really huge we can talk about is the biggest ever but doesn't do any damage! Perfect! And waves towering up to 30 feet there's also concern about life-threatening mudslides and what it might do to the people who live in those rugged Sierra Madre villages. The storm center will hit land near Puerto Vallarta where thousands of tourists from hotels and cruises were evacuated in buses after the airport closed authorities urged everyone in the three state coastal area together

21:42 off the beaches and streets. Some were not listening, officials said they feared people might not believe all of the doomsday warnings there are shelters for 240 000 people ready with food water clothes and blankets patricia intensified to a category 5 in 24 hours Experts blaming much warmer than usual sea temperatures. Asked if enough has been done to prepare for this, one Mexican official said all protocols for prevention were followed but admitted they don't know how well the roads bridges and power installations will hold up really because the force of this storm is simply unprecedented. Adrienne Bard reporting for us from Mexico City thanks Adrienne. Let me say

22:29 That's how we roll everybody in Mexico City Mmm. She's nowhere near anything no I said, I corrected myself that I was in Puerto Vallarta after that yeah No But she's in Mexico City Oh really you didn't hear that know what it's how she's inside in Mexico City Play the beginning that's when G announces this is crazy Which one was it again? This was the hurricane the hurricane scare CBS oh man

23:27 And CBS News reporter Adrian Bard is in Mexico City tonight. Adrian? Scott, Mexican officials are calling... He's on a phone! That's fantastic This is like ridiculous As if Mexico City this is like you know we have some fires in the Sierra Nevadas and you're giving a report from New Orleans Yeah I mean, give me a break. It's a scam of epic proportions. It's the scam of epic proportions and uh... And of course whenever this happens we need to check in with the true scientific report. Science! What is happening in Greenland right now? The maps of the world will have to be redrawn This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay Look out your window

24:16 John Cena Morag with a Mudflat Report! is there will not be any retrospectives on this massive screw-up. Scaring the crap out of the public... I saw some reports, there was a poor woman and her little girl they were...

24:52 in Puerto Vallarta vacationing and they were in a complete panic trying to get out on the last plane. And she says, I don't know what we're going to do if we get stuck here you know? We're gonna have to ride out the storm and she was just completely freaked out this whole thing there's no... There will be no retrospective, it'll be no introspection about how he screwed up so massively every news outlet did this The only thing then is because of whether data was wrong And the only thing that you will hear is, well we know that the worst hurricane ever in all of Earth's recorded history was in this year. One of the hottest Octobers on record! Something like that... You will. That's actually a good observation because you will hear that

25:37 That's all just got lucky. Oh, hey here's another one we dodged a bullet I Love that now we the Mexicans well the Mexican well you know was gonna continue on and yeah, Texas Yeah, I'm happy yeah by the way everyone was like five miles an hour Do you when it actually with somebody could actually hold a thing up in the air and measure the wind speed? It was 35 miles an hour I went outside yesterday to do some groceries quickly last night oh By the way, I will say my apartment is leaking I have an overhanging like a You know like the living room extends and hangs out a little bit in parallel to a balcony Yeah, and the corner is this like water? And I'm not also opposed to picture light not a little bit too. No put it on it. No you know It's on the floor. It's not coming from the ceiling oh yeah, oh yeah, that's all yeah Yeah, I put the towel down But I'm worried about the the structural integrity that this thing could fall right off

26:35 Half of my living room. I got the perfect clip for that. What's that? Another Clinton laugh ISO. Oh, geez! I think i have the same ISO Yeah...I have it a little better I think About the same Before we move on to that because I do want to talk about that Andrea Mitchell took advantage of the opportunity to talk to John Kerry about, oh I don't know climate change? You have a leading Republican candidate who tweeted out that on the first day of fall, the first cold weather that this was proof we need more global warming.

27:12 You have Republican candidates. Republican candidates are not only silent on the subject, they're climate deniers. When I hear a United States senator say that he's not a scientist so he can't make a judgment or candidate for president for that matter... ...I'm absolutely astounded! It is incomprehensible that a grown-up who has been to high school and college in the United States of America... Well, I haven't had college so I can say whatever I want disqualifies themselves because they're not a scientist when they've learned that the earth rotates on its axis but they're not a scientist. It seems to me that they disqualify themselves fundamentally from high public office with those kinds of statements and I think the American people will decide that this year, because the American people are overwhelmingly in favor doing something about climate change." Did you say Heil Hitler? That's what i said!

28:08 My goodness, we are in such trouble. It's horrible! We're doomed! We really are and that goes equally for this complete nonsensical 11-hour shitshow which you know let's just be honest about something the CIA operation was going on in Benghazi the 54 people who were part of the annex lovely word by the way annex like a little porch I built onto my house you know just an annex You know, you're not hearing any of these people. This was a complete show it was of course to discredit Hillary Clinton and she did a good job

28:48 He did a great job fighting that. It made everybody look stupid, Trey Gowdy is a douchebag! You know Trey Gowdy is... for one thing then he gets his hair made up with some stupid looking dye job in the front and white sidewalls and little bitty things sticking up. He looks like an idiot. And I always admired the guy because he's a good second banana in these hearings if he's not the chairman Yeah. And he's a gal comes in late and says, well the way I see it as a lawyer, as a lawyer, as a prosecutor, as an ex-prosecutor blah blah blah. So apparently somebody made the analysis that

29:29 This was a select committee, and the select committee means the chairman gets to select people to be on the committee. He selected all his attorney buddies! So they're asking these idiotic questions about... as though she's on trial and they're trying to get the goods on her. Let me do this in reverse order after we had Susan Brooks who was the... where is she from? Is she from Ohio? I'm not sure where she's from. She was a Republican and she was doing an interview on CNN, and you know...she basically said that-she's saying in so many words that this was a total waste of everybody's time. Trey Gowdy says it's not over

30:10 So what's next? It is not over. She was but one serious fact witness, we have other witnesses to interview witnesses like Director Petraeus head of the CIA, witnesses like Secretary Panetta who is head of Department of Defense We are not done in fact there are over a dozen interviews already scheduled in November now these will be probably in classified settings so they will not be in the public nature that her interview was. Nonetheless, still important and significant. Which she requested that that be public." Alright so I didn't know that she had requested it be public? That doesn't mean they had to do it! Thank you thank you... uh but that's the crazy-the girl with the lady with the curly hair that's half over her face. Oh finally makes me mad just looking at her makes me mad oh these people what a and meanwhile

30:58 While this all took place, well I'll tell you that in a minute. What was going on while we were all distracted by this? I have a couple of clips do you have anything to share? I've got a couple clips...I got one of her rambling clips and also the one which incorporates that laugh which i think is a good clip Yeah okay let's play that one then I have a couple others Alright that clip is the Clinton maniacal laugh clip And I also had the laugh eyes.

31:39 Well, yes the whole night. I don't know why that's funny? I mean did you have any in-person briefings? I don't find it funny at all! I'm sorry a little note of levity at 715 What is levity? Humor Oh It was because everyone knows that she's in bed with Uma Is that why its funny Didn't I that's all I could think of everybody knows Dirty enough mine. I'm sorry, that's where I am That's where I am there were a couple things that came out there were that we're worthwhile this is I thought this was an interesting comment.

32:40 There were a lot of things that happened that I was aware of and that i was reacting to. If you were to be in my office, in the State Department, I didn't have a computer? I did not do the vast majority of my work on email. All right. The Secretary of State says she did not have a computer in her office Yes And this question came up in The Daily Briefing At the State Department. And I don't know where Kirby is, you know? I like him because he's funny He makes funny remarks this other guy forget his name Douchebag to well he got the question secretary Clinton speaks of not having a computer at the State Department Is that an unusual? Thing for the Secretary do not have a state or to not have a computer within their office at the State Department It's I mean unusual. I mean look, I mean we've only had You know emails are relatively new beast shall We say and really

33:38 A relatively new beast. This newfangled email thing we're talking of. A new creation, I say! Thank you Mark Zuckerberg must have created this new crazy email thing and so you know uh i think each secretary is a little bit different in how they get information and certainly that evolves as technology has developed over time So it's hard for me to say whether it's unusual um you know there's uh you know there's um...I would have to refer you to previous secretaries Yeah, bullcrap. Did you get a spreadsheet? Yeah I didn't get one well could you forward it to me okay? Can you do that from that machine yeah? Yeah, okay

34:23 So apparently, she had her BlackBerry everywhere. But she did not have... She can type into the Blackberry's... The BlackBerry technically is an email machine! Yeah well anyway there's some reason she said it now there was one actual thing that came out of this which you know was underplayed in fact I don't think i heard it anywhere except briefly on PBS NewsHour, I did not see anyone at all report about the email that she sent to Chelsea and I think Bill. Oh yeah with the code name? No no no no Yeah it wasn't just Chelsea it was her codename Uh oh yeah okay but its now agreed she sent an email to her family Right And what did she say in the email She said oh my god the terrorists have attacked Benghazi I don't know what we're gonna do So here's what troubles me

35:13 Your experts knew the truth, your spokesperson knew the truth. Greg Hicks knew the truth but what troubles me more is I think you know the truth! I want to show a few things here You're looking at an email that you sent your family Here's what he said At 11 o'clock that night approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video you say to your family two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an Al-Qaeda like group Like? You tell...you tell the American people one thing and you tell your family entirely different story Also, on the night of the attack he had a call with the president of Libya. Here's what you said to him. Ansar al-Sharia is claiming responsibility! It's interesting Mr. Kattalah one of the guys arrested and charged actually belonged to that group And finally most significantly The next day within 24 hours He had conversation with Egyptian Prime Minister Conversation You told him this We know The attack in Libya Had nothing to do with the film

36:21 It was a planned attack, not a protest. Let me read that one more time We know... Not we think.. Not it might be.... We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack not a protest State department experts knew the truth You knew the truth, but that's not what the American people got. Why didn't you tell the American people exactly what you told the Egyptian Prime Minister? Now she didn't have a very satisfactory answer and again this really doesn't matter in the broad scheme of what actually went down in Benghazi but I'd like to play the two follow-up clips to this Here is what I think going on Let me show one more slide Again it's from Victoria Nuland Your press person She says to Jake Sullivan and Philippe Reines Subject line reads this Romney statement on Libya

37:09 Email says this is what Ben was talking about. I assume Ben is the now somewhat famous Ben Rhodes author of the Talking Points memo This email's at 1035 27 minutes after your 1008 statement, 27 minutes after you've told everyone It's a video while Americans are still fighting because the attack still going on Your top people are talking politics which I think is disgusting without doubt But then I called this little bit and see if you can catch Her telling you know the truth always wants to get out and Hillary Clinton boy did she tell the truth in this one?

37:46 Now, apparently al-Nusra were the ones who claimed responsibility and she's going to discuss that specifically. Do you know how al-Nusra claimed that responsibility? I don't recall Okay it's in this clip and then listen to how she explains it Why didn't you just speak plain to the American people? I did if you look at my statement as opposed to what I was saying to the Egyptian Prime Minister... ...I did state clearly and I said it again in more detail the next morning as did the President I'm sorry that it doesn't fit your narrative, Congressman. members have pointed out in their most recent collection of them support this process that was going on where the intelligence community was pulling together information and it's very much harder to do it these days than it used to be because you have to monitor social media for goodness sakes. That's where the Ansar al-Sharia claim was placed I think the intelligence community did the best job they could and we all

38:47 did our best job to try to figure out what was going on and then to convey that to the American people. Did you hear the little anomaly there? No, what. Okay I'm gonna roll it back so you can hear it So we now know that through Twitter We found out that Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility for the attack But that's not exactly what Hillary says You have to monitor social media for goodness sakes That's where the Ansar al-Sharia claim was placed Placed place placed so I don't know what was going on. Yeah, but they placed it It was placed is not like they tweeted it now She could have said that in so many different ways instead no that's where it was placed yeah by your own people I presume

39:38 Yeah, why would you use the word placed unless you had something to do with them? Exactly. Meanwhile we had the mother of Sean Smith back on Fox News once again now she's fantastic We've played several clips from her back in 2012 when this happened and she was on with Megyn Kelly Patricia Smith is Sean Smith's mother. Patricia thank you for being back with us tonight your reaction to what I heard today and to that email in particular Well, that's kind of interesting because my son called me the night before telling me about the people that were walking around the compound taking pictures and they were taking pictures of the diesel fuel and everything. And that's what set on fire. They knew this was going to happen. They were just planning their attack! They were people who are supposed to be guarding in the embassy who are taking pictures and he believed rightly that they were in fact planning an attack and not planning to protect anybody

40:32 Did you? These were the February 17th people, he told me. Whatever that is." I thought that was interesting... The February 17th people That IS interesting And the only thing i can find is February 17th 2011 was the occurrence of the first battle of Benghazi. I'm reading from Wikipedia actually, The Book Of Knowledge... The first Battle of Benghazi occurred as part of the Libyan civil war between army units and militiamen loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and anti-Gaddafi forces in February 2011. The battle mainly took place in Benghazi, the second largest city in Libya with related clashes occurring in nearby Criation... uh... Crination

41:14 Krinikant, whatever. Baida and Durna in Benghazi itself most of the fighting occurred during a siege of the government-controlled Katiba compound so we need to look into this I only heard this morning but the February 17th people is code for something and i know we have enough producers out there who will help figure it out now of course We know what Hillary Clinton said when Patricia Smith's son's body was being wheeled off of the airplane. Well, and now we this is way after she lied. Hillary Clinton lied about it being a terror attack. What does it mean to you? I mean to I know that you have believed all along that what you were told over your son's casket was not true, that it was not about a video but to see in the email

41:59 from Hillary Clinton to the Egyptian Prime Minister saying it outright, saying we know the attack had nothing to do with the film. We know it! We know it was a planned attack and not a protest What does that mean to you? What perspective does that give you?" It gives me a very good one. She lies! Very simple, she is not telling the truth. She's trying to push her own agenda through what she was hoping would happen is what she said now what actually happened and she told me it was a video that it was. She told me personally with the video Obama told me, Panetta told me Biden told me. They all told me at the casket ceremony that it was a video and they would definitely call me and let me know if there was any change as soon as they investigated it a little bit more thoroughly I have heard nothing Nothing from the government since

42:51 Which is sad, of course. It's actually pathetic now I did not see a report now you're doing the three by threes Did you did? Did you see anything about the emails and lying? On the 3x3's, on the networks? Yeah actually I did see a thing about the... I don't know which network. I don't have a clip. But there was one network at least that produced information about the question you had initially where she is grilled about the two... About the fake letter to her daughter Right

43:29 The only example I could find of a news report was on the News Hour with some guy, some reporter. And he sums it up quite succinctly but then... What's her name? The old bird? Judy Woodruff who should not be wearing sleeveless dresses anymore if i was in charge of News Hour I'm problematic

44:22 that this was not something tied to an anti-Muslim video, and then saying but the talking points coming out of the White House at the time were this was not al Qaeda. And this was linked to this video." I thought that was the most effective answer in new moments in the entire line of questioning. Her answer back wasn't terribly strong. Her answer back was there's conflicting intelligence we're trying to sort our way through it but she couldn't quite give the direct answer why she was saying in an email something very different than what is being said publicly. But for the audience why does it matter? Why did that, why does it matter whether she was saying one thing? Because she tried to say well I was trying to warn other countries we didn't want to see this thing happening anyplace else. So the Republican charges basically are two parts One is... Why does it matter that she lied?! What!? Is this a serious news person asking this question? That is odd yes! Why does it matter that she lied??

45:17 She ignored security so substantively she could have done more to make the compound safer and then much more damaging. Yeah I think that now that listening to this and then Processing playing that question that she wasn't listening. That was well She said quite clearly why does it matter that yeah, but she said why does it like you're telling me something? Well Adam Why does it matter I don't have a... This is not what she said. That's not what she said, She said why does it matter that she lied? She didn't say that! Yes she did No she didn't. But you couldn't explain the direct answer of Why was she saying in an email something very different than what was being said publicly For the audience, Why does it matter? Why doesn't matter whether she was saying one thing Because she tried to say well I was trying to warn Isn't that the same John? Why doesn't matter? I don't think so Other countries We need warnings I don't think she's paying attention It's possible

46:11 She's probably looking at herself out of the corner of her eye in the monitor thinking, geez I look like crap. I shouldn't wear sleeveless anymore I love how the chat room some guy says, with every show these guys sound more and more like right-wing Republican talk radio. Are you kidding me? Didn't we just say Trey Gowdy is a douche? What right wing Republican talk radio would say that? We sound more like Sirius 127 progress! Please what a idiot that guy is whoever he is in the challenge It's a boo Radley Boo, Radley. Yeah should be I just can't hate that. I'm not looking at the chat room now anyway Number because but I want to take a break That kind of veer away from all this okay, but I want to tease it Well in that case let me thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C

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49:28 Sir Mark. That's Sir Mark, he is actually the Baron of Tokyo. Dear John and Adam what can we say other than thank you for your courage in devoting eight years of your lives to keep us sane? The news reporting around the world and around the web only gets worse and worse while you guys get better and better every show! I see the email. So there's now he apparently has jumped the numbers to become a Duke. Now this is, I think this is a combo

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59:15 We're getting the formula. Our formula is this, we go out and hit people in the mouth. My, oh my. So I'm watching Democracy Now and she doesn't seem to be as lockstep into the memes of the Benghazi hearings. You mean Amy Goodman, War and Peace? Warandpeacesupportamygoodman.com or... Dot com

59:58 She's skeptical enough that she brought somebody on who is an ex- This guy is interesting. His name is Mel Goodman, I have three clips from him and he's interesting because he's ex CIA And he's ex- that little State Department intelligence agent. Of course, we don't really know if anyone is ex CIA anymore considering Fox had a guy on who was fake? Right I'm sure this is possible but this guy has written a couple of books and he has good points to make whether he's ex CIA or he's full of shit But you said for the state department, the Victoria Newland led state department intelligence agency No no, this was back in the 80s It wasn't, it's not recent but he was part of that secretive little

1:00:41 intelligence group that the State Department has. Yeah, that's the one that was screwing us up So let's play a little of this This is his opening remarks he's introduced with the long typical at long introduction from Amy I cut most of that off and this is kind of interesting Can you start off by talking about? The significance of the hearing yesterday, what was learned? What wasn't learned? And what you think are the key questions to be asked that may have never been asked formally by any of these committees. Thank you Amy. What was learned was irrelevant and what was relevant wasn't discussed

1:01:22 And it was those areas that concerned me. Why was the CIA operating a base out of Benghazi? Why was the State Department operating a transitional mission facility, a TMF—it wasn't a consulate—in Benghazi? Why was Ambassador Stevens, who is aware of the security situation in Benghazi in the first place. So, none of these questions have been asked. And remember when the planes flew the survivors out of Benghazi to get them back to Tripoli? For every State Department official on that plane there were five or six CIA employees and my sources tell me that the CIA was there to buy back weapons we had given to Gaddafi in the first place so the question all

1:02:03 All of this begs—and this is where Hillary Clinton's remarks did concern me—is that we created a disaster in Libya. It was the decision to conduct regime change, the decision to go after Qaddafi, which eventually led to his death. And remember, Hillary Clinton welcomed that news with the words, We came, we saw he died." There is a link to what Putin is doing in Syria, because remember we had to tell the Russians that we had very limited objectives—a very limited mission—in Benghazi so that they would not veto the U.N. resolution and then And then, essentially Putin finds out that our mission really was to go after Qaddafi, creating this instability, this discontinuity, this chaos in Libya. So it really needs to be discussed what is the role of military power in making a foreign policy? Why does Hillary Clinton think that Libya is not a disaster and why was Hillary Clinton pushing for the military role in Libya in the first place? These are important issues.

1:03:07 As far as the hearings were concerned she testified for off and on for nearly 11 hours. She handled herself extremely well, and she essentially exposed the fact that these were a group of Republican troglodytes doing their best to marginalize her and humiliate her And they totally failed yep Yep now I want to mention one thing that somebody pointed out on it's actually a comedy show and they talked it over with Mimi This goes back to Hillary not sweating and possibly being a lizard And I'm the crackpot she is A menopausal older woman who can sit 11 hours without having to take a pee no No, she did take a pee one. Oh She did she got him took a pee there was one There was there was a break that had a brain okay? Well then again, I'd like it back But I'll tell you something else

1:02:03 All of this begs—and this is where Hillary Clinton's remarks did concern me—is that we created a disaster in Libya. It was the decision to conduct regime change, the decision to go after Qaddafi, which eventually led to his death. And remember, Hillary Clinton welcomed that news with the words, We came, we saw he died." There is a link to what Putin is doing in Syria, because remember we had to tell the Russians that we had very limited objectives—a very limited mission—in Benghazi so that they would not veto the U.N. resolution and then And then, essentially Putin finds out that our mission really was to go after Qaddafi, creating this instability, this discontinuity, this chaos in Libya. So it really needs to be discussed what is the role of military power in making a foreign policy? Why does Hillary Clinton think that Libya is not a disaster and why was Hillary Clinton pushing for the military role in Libya in the first place? These are important issues.

1:03:07 As far as the hearings were concerned she testified for off and on for nearly 11 hours. She handled herself extremely well, and she essentially exposed the fact that these were a group of Republican troglodytes doing their best to marginalize her and humiliate her And they totally failed yep Yep now I want to mention one thing that somebody pointed out on it's actually a comedy show and they talked it over with Mimi This goes back to Hillary not sweating and possibly being a lizard And I'm the crackpot she is A menopausal older woman who can sit 11 hours without having to take a pee no No, she did take a pee one. Oh She did she got him took a pee there was one There was there was a break that had a brain okay? Well then again, I'd like it back But I'll tell you something else

1:04:03 She was reading half of her answers. Now I figured out why she talks like this when she's talking to answering questions, but when you look at the close-up... You're not talking slow enough! Yeah you are right that i have been answering questions in this regard. She is reading. In fact at one point it's like what tab are we on? What tab are we on?! She could be like what tab is that!? What tab?? Because she has a written answer for every question. She knows the questions And she's reading. You see, what she does is she'll pretend that she's kind of looking away thinking but she's reading She's reading and...she's on some kind of heavy ass meds Oh! Shes on something. Oh there no I agree with you. In fact i should have brought that up too But your right shes definitely on something to keep her from getting nuts like she would do Now she has hypothyroidism which is a part of her no sweating

1:04:57 And the great thing about that is you can regulate almost everything with the thyroid. So if you can slow, you can slow someone down and you can speed someone up, you get them to normal... I know i've lived with hypothyroidism. Well here's a clip from Hillary this is exhibiting what you described as reading This is Hillary What Must We Do Better? Clip You know I would imagine I thought more about what happened than all of you put together I've lost more sleep than all of you put together. She sounds like Kathy. I have been wrecking my brain About what more could have been done? I'm your biggest fan Insane person no that this is this is her insane so I mean that is the land of unconfirmed yes, we came we saw he died

1:05:50 Let's go back to the Melvin Goodman. So this is the middle remark, just a little interim complaint about the hearings. Hold on. Mel Goodman interim complaint. Sorry gotcha but the fact is we use military power in these places and now they're less stable than they were before and to talk about nation building particularly silly, we can't rebuild Baltimore. So what are we going to do in Aleppo and Mosul and Benghazi and Tripoli? We have to be more balanced and more restrained with our use of power." And Hillary Clinton should've been forced to discuss that yesterday but I don't think that panel was interested in American national security these were a bunch of gotcha questions that go this country nowhere In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Trey Gowdy is a Democrat

1:06:43 You know this is funny you'd say that because I have to these things were over from what I could tell this would just benefited Hillary Everybody the litany was out there the new meme showed out that these guys are a bunch of clowns The Republicans were clowns then this whole thing didn't work and Hillary stood fast And I've talked to women who said well, I don't even like Hilary but she did such a great job Maybe I'll vote for her now. Yeah, I heard women say the same thing They liked her, they liked how they... And that was also part of the narrative. You know? And because no one heard the actual outright lie but yeah it's you know these were this is not about what really happened That's why you know they're just trying to catch on one little thing that took 11 hours They got one line by an email which Amy Goodman to her says What difference does it make

1:07:32 What difference does it make if she didn't, she said something here? That wasn't Amy. That was Woodruff. Yes and this is interchangeable. Well let's go to the last comments which I think are quite interesting and these will fascinate you i think this is uh he's where he blasted Brennan and the whole structure of the CIA currently Jim Mel Goodman, you're a former CIA and State Department analyst. Let's talk about the role of the CIA—for example, in Libya. The CIA and the State Department, are they merging? And does that endanger diplomacy when people in other countries think it's the same thing

1:08:10 Well, the problem I think is even greater than that. The merger that's taking place—particularly under this director John Brennan—is the merger between the CIA and the Pentagon. Yeah. I left the CIA in the 1980s because of the politicization of intelligence under Bill Casey and Bob Gates. But what John Brennan has done is created the CIA as a paramilitary institution that is really doing the bidding of the Pentagon. He said in his confirmation hearings he was going to give up drone warfare, that that properly belonged in the Pentagon—if we should be doing it at all, which is another question. But not only has he not done that, but we've expanded the use of drones. Now he's merging intelligence analysts and operatives, which will further politicize intelligence. So what I worry about is the CIA that was created by Harry Truman to challenge the Pentagon

1:09:03 to challenge intelligence briefings by the Pentagon, to try to get an understanding of why we need arms control and disarmament. And there are the CIA in the State Department—and when we had an arms control and disarmament agency, which Bill Clinton got rid of—the CIA did some very good work. But if you look at the last 10 years, if you look at politicized intelligence, the phony case to go to war, people like Mike Morrell, a deputy director who was called the Bob gates of his generation by politico and we certainly know uh... what that means the politicization of all the intelligence to invade iraq secret prisons extraordinary renditions torture and abuse this is what needs to be addressed but i think frankly president obama has been intimidated uh... by this process intimidated by the very military industrial complex that eisenhower warned about in nineteen sixty one bingo boom shakalaka you're right i do like that

1:09:57 Makes a little bit of sense why Brennan's email got hacked. There's probably a lot of guys in CIA who are pissed off Yeah, this is reorg and yeah, so hell well let's just show how stupid you are maybe they were into near the intent there was to Embarrassing that's why they embarrass with the AOL thing because I wasn't it that was the punchline yeah exactly how they all you're right? Yeah, right Well, this is doofus that's running everything and he's got an AOL account You know just a guy you want run at everything And while we were, you know most people were paying attention to the news certainly was paying attention to that. The Cyber Information Sharing Act advanced in the Senate no one paid attention to that. No of course not this is too complicated Yeah interesting that an additional 37 million dollars in emergency funding for the Office of Personnel and Management has been taken out of the CISA bill I don't know why

1:10:57 Say, you know. $37 million doesn't sound like a government program to cyber-harden anything. $370 million would be more likely I don't know why this little weeny amount But speaking of the faulty intelligence that got us into the Iraq war This morning Tony Blair known as the poodle lapdog of George W Bush back in the day confessed To a number of things on Fareed Zakaria, the anti-constitutionalist douchebag on CNN. Did you see this? No I didn't and did they go did some people come into the studio there to arrest him They should have Given however that Saddam Hussein did not prove to have weapons of mass destruction Was the decision to enter Iraq and topple his regime a mistake

1:11:50 You know, whenever I'm asked this i can say that I apologize for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong. Because even though he had used chemical weapons extensively against his own people against others, the program in the form that we thought it was did not exist in the way that we thought so I could apologize for that. I can also apologize by the way mistakes in planning and certainly our mistake in our understanding of what would happen once you remove the regime. But I find it hard to apologize for removing Saddam, even from today 2015 It is better that he's not there than he is there When people look at the rise of ISIS many people point... Let me stop here for one second So he saying hey sorry

1:12:44 Sorry, what do we know? But you know ultimately it's better. You know everybody wins in the end except for a million people killed. Many people point to the invasion of Iraq as the principal cause What did you say to them I think there are elements of truth in that, but we again have to be extremely careful otherwise one will misunderstand what's going on in Iraq and Syria today. Of course you can't say those of us who removed Saddam in 2003 bear no responsibility for the situation in 2015. But it's important also to realize, one that the Arab Spring which began in 2011 would also have had its impact on Iraq today. And two ISIS actually came to prominence from a base in Syria and not in Iraq. Oh! That leads me to the broader point which I think is so essential when we're looking at policy today which is we have tried intervention and putting down troops

1:13:41 In Iraq, we've tried intervention without putting in troops. In Libya and we've tried no intervention at all but demanding regime change in Syria It's not clear to me that even if our policy did not work subsequent policies have worked better. Oh a dick! He left one off the list What's that? Bringing the Russian army into Syria Yeah exactly Well, with that in mind... I think have an effect. Yeah with that in mind there are some things going on and there's an interesting we always talk about the differences between ISIS where IS, Isis ISIL and then there's a couple other descriptors yeah there are guys can work and there's reasons for that I think now it's starting to be proven first here is Foreign Minister Lavrov of Russia

1:14:39 There's a couple yeah, so he really wants to you know to move things along and at least that's what he's saying And he wants to talk about a political solution to the quagmire Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says the Kremlin wants to see Syria get ready for parliamentary and presidential elections. The announcement comes nearly one month after Russia launched airstrikes against Islamic State targets in Syria, in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government. Lavrov also said Russia would be willing to help Western backed Free Syrian Army rebels with Russian air support if it knew where they were. We are ready to give air support to patriotic opposition as well

1:15:22 including the so-called Free Syrian Army. But we need to get in contact with the people who have the authority to represent certain armed groups that are fighting against terrorism, among other things." Moscow and Washington have butted heads over a political transition of power in Syria...with Washington saying the solution must see Assad removed from power. But the latest move could be a sign that Russia is beginning to use its increased influence in Damascus to reach a political settlement. It's always good to throw an aloo akbar into your report. So here, so they're now talking about the Free Syrian Army and I think the Free Syrian Army is comprised of as John McCain would say, The State Department backed rebels

1:16:10 I'm sorry the CIA backed, well it's the same thing. The CIA backed rebels and the Defense Department, the Pentagon backed rebels That's what they call free Syrian army But John Kerry really amidst all this talk of ISIS and ISIL, ISIS and ISIL Free Syrian Army John Kerry Moron comes out with this. The United States...I want to emphasize welcomes Support in the fight against Dash. Now, why is he saying Dash all of a sudden? Because he's specifying the group He's specifying that that is a small group of A-holes That really can be rooted out and everything else he doesn't want anyone to touch it Maybe I think so well It's not a bad thesis yeah Yeah And why is he using dash nobody uses dash yeah unless he specifically referring to

1:17:07 I mean, this is the... these are these cover your ass statements. I believe Dash- It would go like this let me explain how this works to people You you are Something bad happens and a bunch of guys get killed and they say carry all these people These guy's got killed This guy's in these guys in these guys know now all I wanted to get kill was dash I had nothing to do with these other guys Just Dash. I'm talking about Dash, and I can tell you who Dash is this little group right here. I think-I think Dash? I think Dash... ...is the Iranian fighters who are in there Nooo Yeah yeah yeah that's okay no because there's no way no it's not possible You know what i don't know anything This call could be a movie set for all I care Who the hell knows! I'm not seeing anything Speaking of movie sets Ahhhh I've been waiting for awhile now I'd-you know there's a- Wait let me guess

1:18:03 You're waiting for this next Star Wars trailer. Hail Apple! No, no... Oh god the Star Wars trailer. Ah yeah um no I've been- The site intelligence group has an RSS feed and with that you get the headlines From their feed which you can't see anything. So you can't see the videos, You can't see any of the full stories It's just a small summary at the beginning of the story If you want to see the videos you have to register as an individual $250 a year But that does not give you the right to use them Now if you register as a news organization it is thousands of dollars a year and you get to use their material so I can legally not

1:18:49 get a $250 a year subscription and use it because that's part of the stipulation. That's just for individual use." So whenever something is then finally makes it to the mainstream, which I think has its reasons we can use it so I've seen I haven't seen the actual videos because i can get to them but I've seen the headlines of ISIS runs over guy in a tank. They've got all new videos, another beheading... All kinds of things we have not seen in the mainstream and I think their job Rita Katz, the Iraqi Jew who has a chip on her shoulder who was clearly complicit in making these videos, I believe

1:19:26 I think she just keeps making shit until it's time for someone to pick something up when the script calls for something and she always has something at the ready like this. It's a slickly produced video! Right there you know... Oh, we're back on top. It's a Rita Katz production everybody! Featuring a militant who knows a little something about making a good film. These are the houses of your brothers, of your sisters, of your fathers, of your children... Heavily armed with a distinct British accent the man says he is with the Al Nusra Front al Qaeda's branch in Syria. Destroyed and shattered from an explosion And in the video he slams the competing terror group ISIS for decimating a village in northern Syria The followers of this so-called Islamic State

1:20:09 decided that in the middle of Ramadan, 7th of Ramadan that the best worship they could perform was to bomb the houses of innocent Muslims. According to the site Intelligence Group which posted the video The militant goes by Abu Basr Al-Britani But tonight CNN has learned his real name. I'm Abu Basir al-Britani like the guy from England clearly His name is Lucas Kinney and his family once moved in Hollywood's top circles A distraught family member tells CNN Lucas Kinney is the son of Patrick Kinney, an assistant director who worked on blockbusters like Braveheart. It's all for nothing if you don't have freedom. Kinney's father also helped direct a Rambo sequel and I mean all films that give you the skills to do yeah i don't know military type sets he worked with Steven Spielberg on Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade

1:20:57 Those people are trying to kill us. Now it appears Lucas Kinney is on his own terror crusade This is a guy that had every advice Bring in the English, uh... The British speaking expert Terrorism expert because it sounds so official yet still ended up with Al-Qaeda, with the terrorist group in Syria. Somebody who appears to have travelled to Syria because he believed it was his religious duty to fight Jihad. CNN has learned... I love how they say that this guy is on a crusade It's kind of the opposite of what jihad is about. Kenny's father and his mother, a British national divorced years ago He attended the best schools in Cairo Saudi Arabia and Britain One relative says Lucas was a rock-and-roller who once played in a band called Hannah's Got Herpes Doesn't get much better than this report Hannah's got herpes everybody Hey everybody welcome to Top 20 video countdown I'm Adam Curry And number one today we've got Hannah's got herpes

1:22:00 I Tonight, it appears Lucas Kinney is using those performance skills to aid a brutal terror group. And experts warn he could exploit his familiarity with Western culture to deadly effect. Some of these recruits are becoming suicide bombers ready to give up their lives the worry is that they could be sent back to the West to launch attacks and they could be trained inside Syria by Al-Qaeda right now the groups focus on Syria but the worries that can change I love it. New guy on the scene! Oh god... Body body all bug brig time And the thing is, he could exploit his knowledge of western culture Yes He might It could happen Anybody could

1:22:44 Go down to your local falafel shop here in New York and you're gonna find someone that can exploit their knowledge of Western culture. So if anyone has access to the Sight Intelligence video feed, please send me a copy of the following headline I read... hold on, i'll read the headline and this the synopsis The Shumukh Al-Islam Instigation Workshop It's like the children's television workshop only in uh in the Middle East A media group affiliated with the prominent deep web jihadi forum, Sumuk Al-Islam released a video advising Islamic State supporters in how to best utilize Twitter to promote IS material. Showing a mock beheading of Twitter founder Jack Dorsey." I know it should be tech news but i had to slip it in early please send me this video please

1:23:45 That'd be great. That's hilarious. Mock me, Jack Dorsey! That's fantastic. That's why I grew a beard is to become incognito or join the ranks who the hell knows? The whole thing this Jack Dorsey thing is strange Yeah he...I think it's wrong that he had well we'll do that you want to know I think it's wrong that he He had to give up 1 third of his stock what does that all about? I don't know Why not all investors? Why not all the investors I don't know. I have no idea. The VC? Hmm, I don't know good luck good luck Jack Good luck You know they should just let that thing go away Twitter should fold and then we'd you know then IS would have no more chance

1:24:31 There you go. Why are they keeping this thing alive? The best result is that the government buy them out and then shutter it And it makes no sense, why would the ISIS-ISIL dash... ISIS thing Why would they want to get rid of Twitter It's their main recruitment tool I'm told over and over again That makes no sense Well they claim that every time one of them gets caught on Twitter saying Ali Akbar They get kicked off Ali Akbar Whatever. Ali Akbar, Ali, Ali, Ali Akbar! Yeah well they get kicked off yeah man hey I saw Mark Hall's documentary Killing Ed on Saturday yeah you think he emailed me saying something like that or no you tweeted it that you saw something with him? No but i also mentioned it on Thursday show oh wow this is great what's it about so

1:25:28 It's initially, it starts off about the charter schools in America and you know how charter schools work but around 10-12 minutes it shows quite clearly and this is where the rest of the documentary goes that Fatullah Gulen, that's the imam who lives in Pennsylvania who was set up there by the billionaire. Who had a falling out with Erdogan and he was exiled to Pennsylvania, the Pocono sitting up there in his big camp who runs 500, more than 500 charter schools in the United States. A large number 150 of them in Texas alone on the Harmony Charter Schools and it shows that

1:26:16 The teachers barely speak English, they speak Turkish. They have no credentials. The Turkish non-English speaking teachers make twice as much as the poor schlubs who are coming in for $20,000 a year with teaching degrees. How they take all kinds of politicians on free trips to Turkey including douchebag du jour Mike McCall that horrible woman from Dallas what's her name? Idiot we hate so much Which one? Oh, the black one. Yeah. Was Sheila Jackson. They're all in Turkey living it up having a good time all for free taking bribes buying rugs

1:27:00 And it's, and it but what I like about is that it doesn't well so the conclusion I got walking away from the movie was if you want to have a bloodless jihad. If you want to expand the Ottoman Empire which without doubt is certainly Erdogan's mission and I think is also, as the imam's gulen is his mission. You know then the best way to do it is to educate thousands and thousands and thousands of children about how great Turkey is and you know how great Islam is and there's no oversight and they're also in Pearson. Thank you Bill Gates!

1:27:41 And so it really focuses on the education aspect, but has enough of what Mark calls Easter eggs in there that you really just go holy crap who is this guy? What is going on? Outstanding. He'll probably get some interesting protests when this thing opens up He's already, you know... he's a lawyer. A former lawyer if you can ever be an ex-lawyer So he's prepared and ready. He has already received some nasty noise here and there But Killing Ed is the movie. I think it was killinged.com? Oh, Killing Education Yeah so that was my lip smack. Yeah, killinged.com Very interesting. Well I heard it

1:28:30 Very interesting Certainly if you're a note if there's any no agenda thinking going on in your brain You've heard about Fatou Lagoon and why this is not being discussed Or well, it's because they bribed of Congress obviously Sheila Jackson whatever last name Sheila Jackson Lee and Mike McCall who was on the Intelligence Committee? And the amount of federal money Going to this outfit is in excess of half a billion dollars per year for bullcrap charter schools that are no good That are not teaching kids anything. They got all kinds of undercover footage of these schools as a joke Hey, we do a science fair and the kids didn't make the projects No they were given projects or told how to set up their booth and how to talk about it It's disgusting well as a form of education Yeah Okay Spokes fool good point

1:29:26 So great Congratulations to mark good work. Well, this is just another thing that we have to keep on well We've been on you know all over it really This is just another extra bit that we need to be before I leave the Middle East I do want to play this one clip It's kind of an interesting little clip so actually a long clip but not that long and this is kusinich I could take him in 2012 before he got screwed by his own party and gerrymandered out of a job because nobody wants to listen to this guy. And we liked Kucinich a lot, he was a Democrat and I guess he still is... Yeah! ...and he made a lot of sense it just his posture and his voice made him you know just doesn't work for American media politics Not any no and they also didn't need to hear his message

1:30:20 No, why bother? There's a lot of corruption going on in Washington and you know we got to do something about it. Nah nah this is I have a solution to the corruption let's get rid of you! We owe it to the diplomatic corps who serves our nation to start at the beginning And that's what I shall do. The security threats in Libya, including the unchecked extremist groups who are armed to the teeth exist because our nation spurred on a civil war destroying the security and stability of Libya Libya. And, you know no one defends Gaddafi. Libya was not in a meltdown before the war. In 2003 Gaddafi reconciled with the community of nations by giving up his nation's pursuit of nuclear weapons at the time President Bush said

1:31:07 Gaddafi's actions made our country and our world safer. Now during the Arab Spring, uprisings across the Middle East occurred and Gaddafi made ludicrous threats against Benghazi based on those verbal threats we intervened absent constitutional authority I might add We bombed Libya, we destroyed their army. We obliterated their police stations lacking any civil authority armed brigades control security Al-Qaeda expanded its presence weapons are everywhere thousands of shoulder to air missiles around the loose our military intervention led to greater instability in Libya

1:31:42 Many of us, Democrats and Republicans alike made that argument to try to stop the war. It's not surprising given the inflated threat and grandiose expectations inherent in our nation building in Libya that the State Department was not able adequately protect our diplomats from this predictable threat it is not surprising and also not acceptable We want to stop the attacks on our embassies? Let's stop trying to overthrow government. This should not be a partisan issue, let's avoid the hype! Let's look at the real situation here interventions do not make us safer they do not protect our nation they are themselves a threat to America. Big mistake what is he doing talking sense yeah well... He's out

1:32:36 Out for good. That kind of thing. Did you see Jeb Bush whining and crying? Oh, poor Jeb Bush he's just pathetic! I love this... He's crying And here is if we, of course- Well he knows that he was assigned to... He was like there's some back room somewhere and he was assigned as the next president. Yeah. And it folded on him thanks to Trump coming in and screwing with him. Yeah. An now he's whining. It just isn't... It's beyond whining. He's like a little spoiled brat douchebag. If this election is about how were going to fight to get nothing done then I don't want any part of it.

1:33:17 I don't want to be elected president to sit around and see gridlock just become so dominant. that people literally are in decline in their lives. Whatever that means! That is not my motivation, I got a lot of really cool things that I could do other than sit around... I could walk whole bunch of- I could go flying? I could go boating?! Uhh..I could make things and sell them on Etsy?? This is not fair!! Being miserable listening to people demonize me and me feeling compelled to demonize them. That is a joke Elect Trump if you want that. You go ahead and elect him then, you'll see how it works out Yeah I heard this one too I don't have Trump's...I should've clipped it because he was writing him even more saying And now apparently Jeb has to meet with his mommy and daddy To figure out what is going on Mommy Daddy What am I gonna do?

1:34:16 That's exactly what you'd imagine. What? That's no, that's not my president I'll tell you that for sure. Whining baby. What a dick! Yeah well it was he had in him all along Yeah, I mean you can just see how it goes. All right Jeb you're up! You're gonna be next. You'll be the next president. It's all in the buckets... he's all in his pocket and we are good to go. And it would be like this thing with George W. The family put Cheney as vice president just for that exact same reason. To handle him of course. Yeah handle her so they don't go off the rails because the kids are obviously idiots. He is drinking beer choking on pretzels come on

1:34:58 Remember that? Remember that? Choking him. Vaguely, yeah the choking thing. Yeah he almost died. Ugh! Oh man... Alright let's check in with my favorite topic I remain obsessed about the migration world migration taking place. So this is it, once they cross this bridge a few more steps and they are into Slovenia but what the Slovenian authorities are saying is that Croatia is simply dumping thousands upon thousands of refugees and migrants on their border The Slovenian security forces soon pick this group up but there's no transport They now have to walk 10 kilometers to the nearest camp How about Jeb Bush make him...

1:35:47 under the watchful eyes of armed police and soldiers carrying automatic weapons. This hostile reception is perhaps deliberate because the Slovenian government insists it cannot cope with this large influx into such a small country But the Croatians say they'll continue dropping as many refugees and migrants as possible on the border. Not least because of fears, the numbers arriving in this region from Greece may soon increase dramatically. It is 9000, 11000 and then now we can expect about 30 000 people in next few days here. Meanwhile a group walking through Slovenia is finally approaching a transit camp

1:36:37 That's not high good to see you, but they're greeted with jeers from the refugees and migrants inside The camps already full others shout to us that they and their children are hungry If ever there was a need for European countries to coordinate their approach to the migrant crisis it is now yeah, and They have another emergency meeting today in Bruxelles to see what we're gonna do. Meanwhile, the German newspapers are full on gobbelizing everything this is pretty cool Headlines! Refugees don't steal jobs! Headline! Refugees are all good people no criminals no terrorists headline all will be good Go back to playing your harpsichord citizen it's all fine

1:37:27 Wow. Yeah, and in Sweden now Sweden is really falling apart. Sweden is not a very big country No It's very small they have like six or seven million people landmass But the number of people there was very small play this we can killing so you get little background on one thing going on outstanding Police in Sweden now say that a masked man who attacked a school with a sword and knife yesterday was motivated by race. He killed two people, and wounded two in Trollhattan. It's a town with a large... Trollhattan? Is that where the trolls live? I love it! I thought they said troll hunting. In Trollhattan is a town with a large immigrant population all of the victims were dark-skinned

1:38:07 Today, mourners paid their respects at a makeshift memorial. Hold on a second... She says dark skinned but what she means is black They're not dark-skinned like Syrian dark skin. They're black, these are not refugees from Syria. Yeah these are like Sudanese or something Yes sir yes four out of five in fact according to the local newspapers Are NOT from Syria While the local police chief reported on the investigation Why that is so lame Dark skinned what did you why don't you say what you mean there Judy thing? What's her name? Judy We have discovered a letter in his apartment and it has some notes in it that tells us that he has planned the act and he also, he planned out of a hate crime perspective. And is also told by that letter that he's going to... He considers this will be his final act

1:39:02 The attack came as it was announced that as many as a hundred and ninety thousand asylum seekers may enter Sweden this year alone. But today the government agreed to restrict the country's liberal immigration policies. Hello, we're from Sweden from Trollhunters I wanted to play that clip for two reasons one of them kind of a little background but they the police guy That's your...that's the voice you do Yes, we have lots of problems with the troll hunters. Hunters? Hunters! Here in Trollhunters country we have a lot of problems with the 190 000 we expect to come and and we see that tents are burning. Tents are being burned by the people of Sweden I'm glad you like it The people of Sweden don't like the hundred and ninety thousand immigrants We can't have them They're dark-skinned look this is he's not Syrian He's blackie

1:39:58 I now just made all Swedes racist. Well, we do not get as much support from the Swedes as we should no wonder My goodness yes okay oh boy Oh boy. Yeah, it's just like Republican talk radio but Just like it bunch of racist a-holes exactly We're just like it After the show on Thursday, you said I think you're right. This is World War three and and it is a different form of war now let's take into account one more thing that we didn't get to

1:40:38 I also want to match up, although I don't...I'm just going to talk a big game. But I'd like to match it up with the changes that took place in Germany in the 30s so it comes through…I'm not gonna do it today but I'm gonna do it and it's gonna match up perfectly so we do have the conflagration taking place in 2020 Because there's somebody came with a very similar theory as my cycles, but he's basing it on a 50-year cycle and I'm not getting that. Not happening. It's not 50 years, its 40. Well you know that now US companies have three months to negotiate a new safe harbor deal? Have you been following this? Ah! No Yeah this is part of the strike back so the first thing we have is... What did we talk about on Thursday what are the Europeans doing

1:41:29 Um, oh geez. I'm still fuzzy. Well it doesn't matter! Here's the latest thing... European data protection authorities have given the European Commission and national governments three months to come up with an alternative to the Safe Harbor Agreement which was swept away just two weeks ago by a ruling of the Court of Justice in the European Union This is about Facebook in particular not being allowed to take data that is collected and stored in EU countries They may not ship that back to the US for analysis or anything else. And of course they're doing that consistently, you know their networks are like you know like they have one big data center and The EU is saying okay You got three months to figure it out but this is a huge problem and this is part of World War 3! Well we don't get involved for another three years What was the... Four year maybe

1:42:25 Yeah, what was the thing that we were talking about on Thursday? That was also part of the world no that wasn't and that was the same safe harbor deal. Is there something else I don't know yeah We do this show you get the information out there And then when we forget about it forward then we forget about it go forward backwards But but this is what this is what's happening You know, this is you know we of course struck out in Germany and we like screwed the screwed Volkswagen And let's be honest. We screwed Volkswagen. We screwed them yeah Everyone is doing this. Every single diesel company was screwing around with defeat devices, turns out I think Volkswagen might have had multiple defeat devices just to make it even crazier." How many different defeats did Volkswagen make and just how many people were in on the scheme? The company says a few rogue engineers created the software that fooled emissions tests but Reuters sources say VW made multiple versions over a prolonged period

1:43:26 If true, it would suggest a more complex deception by the German carmaker. VW's defeat devices were installed on about 11 million vehicles worldwide. Analysts estimate the scandal could cost the company up to 35 billion euros when you tot up the likely cost of vehicle refits, fines and lawsuits VW in Europe and the United States has declined to comment on whether it developed multiple devices, citing ongoing investigations by the company and authorities in both regions. Some industry experts say if there were several versions of the device, it would raise the possibility that more employees were involved. That's a key issue for investors because it could affect the size of potential fines and extent of management change at the company

1:44:13 and there could be more trouble ahead for those at the top. There are reports that legal action could be launched on behalf of shareholders with as much as 40 billion euros being sought over the scandal. Fabulous. We should get a hold of one of these things, they're gonna be worth money one day. I don't know what the hell that was... This is what i wanted. The only good phone's a landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite! That's right everybody it is Sunday time for The Tech Horny to move out of the way as the Curry & Dvorak Technology Consulting Group bring you another Sunday tech news hail Apple John Hail Apple

1:44:55 What you got? I've got a couple things here. There's a story about the founder of CNET. Oh, Halsey Minor! Yes. Halsey went on this when he had money before he... He blew it all on hookers and blow and wound up with not much. No, he blew it on art and mansions that he didn't live in one of them in San Francisco at 800 Washington which has been sitting vacant for the last two or three years, but he had his art collection in there. And I'll tell you...I'm going to play this story and i'm going to now say that this is the one reason why it might have been fortuitous if I was on Facebook but I wasn't so I missed out on apparently some good art at a good price. Oh drat!

1:45:41 A vacant mansion and one big art heist. Tonight, police say a squatter almost got away with it KPIX 5's Andrea Borba is in San Francisco with that story. Andrea? Well Ken neighbors here in Presidio Heights say the home has become a blight and a nuisance It is often the scene of San Francisco Police chases through the property when they say one suspect moved in and set up shop 800 Washington, San Francisco detectives say this man 39 year old Jeremiah Kaler tried to pull off a low rent version of the Thomas Crown affair. It all began when they say the Arizona native started squatting on the decaying property two months ago. Neighbors say the mansion most recently owned by the founder of CNET has been vacant for at least five years They first noticed Kaler lurking and called SFPD

1:46:34 But Kaler had an answer for them. He advised the officers that he was in the process of being the proprietor of this home and taking ownership of this home. That story held up until SFPD got a hold of the real estate agent who said that was definitely not the case When officers caught up again with Kahler, there was a new wrinkle. The sales manager advised our officers that there were several paintings that were missing 11 to be exact worth a cool $300,000. Kahler was allegedly selling them on social media including Facebook. It was nowhere near the range of what the value of these paintings are worth

1:47:15 So far, officers have gotten nine of the paintings back and are still scratching their heads at the neat heist this messy haired suspect nearly pulled off. For a person to generate some type of documentation that shows some form saying that he has some proprietary rights to stay in this house it is a little bit more sophisticated than the average squatter Now the suspect has been charged with one count of trespassing and ten counts of burglary in this case live in Presidio Heights Andre for a KPI x5 to the mighty have fallen yes Halsey poor guy poorly now. No really yeah, it's some sudden like It's a big. It's not as small house he's living here But it's not what he's used to I have

1:48:04 We have a couple of contributions for tech news today on this Sunday. First is little update on Clockboy, which seems to be a technology story I see...I've seen technology tech horny people discuss it everywhere. Student would only say that it was a clock and was not forthcoming at that time about any other details having no other information to go on and take this is the Irving police chief taking into consideration the device's suspicious appearance and the safety of the students and the staff at MacArthur High School. The student was taken into custody for possession of a hoax bomb, our reaction-and you've seen the image our reaction would have been the same either way that's a very suspicious device we live in an age where you can't take things like that just by the way in Texas specifically there is a law that you may not

1:48:51 flaunt a hoax bomb. There is a specific law in Texas about that. Schools, of course we've seen across our country horrific things happen We have to err on the side of caution The reaction would have been the same regardless if a device like that is found under the circumstances it was found in this school And the nice thing to add to that is that Clock Boy has emigrated to Qatar. He's left for Qatar! Yeah, the whole thing is a scam. Well we knew this... Just to make everyone look like idiots. Qatar who of course are financing a lot of bull crap in the Middle East And he met with the Sudanese president, known as a war criminal. Yeah fantastic! I had a clip...I think it was about three shows ago we didn't play but the guy is talking to Bichon about Qatar and he says Qatar is the number one supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood Yes! Number one

1:49:47 And they're the ones that are pissed off about Assad because they couldn't run their pipeline up to Turkey through Aleppo and Homs. And so that's why they decided to help out now it's disgusting. All right, well I've got one done item OK? Well, I have more. Well, I only have one more than it might. I can make other ones into tech news but this is tech news fake reviews we should discuss this a little bit. Fake review Next tonight to a consumer alert, Amazon going to battle over those popular online reviews so many of us read and rely on before we buy something. The retail giant now suing thousands of people who write those reviews some are paid to write them here's ABC's chief business correspondent Becca Jarvis

1:50:32 They help you decide where to eat, what to buy even which retailers to trust. Sellers on Amazon have said that a good review can make or break their product if they have a low starred ranking then it can totally... Who is this vocal fry woman? Make her brag! Just knock them out of the running. But turns out it's actually some of those reviews you shouldn't trust. Tonight Amazon is suing more than a thousand individuals for writing fake reviews, allegedly offering their services on the online marketplace Fiverr.com using ads like this one promising an awesome five-star review for just five bucks and just look how easy they are to find I go on fiver

1:51:18 type in Amazon reviews and just like that dozens of people offering to write a review for five bucks. Fiverr says it actively removes services that violate our terms of use so how can you spot the fakes? Beware of corporate lingo, like full brand names model numbers and discount codes in links look for ranting phrases like does not work or hate it Negative reviews can also be fakes Rebecca Jarvis ABC News lovely All right time for the next item. I'm gonna do this between stories on tech news. I think we should have it It tells everyone it's a tech news story you really like that sound I did all right another tech news story for sounds like a bug well, I have an alternate which is this one

1:52:09 It's the same thing! No, it has a whoosh in front of it. See this is... That just has a little bit and the other one has a whole woosh thing Do you like the staccato or do you want the woosh? You can decide. I don't like either one Next item next item here on tech news. I thought we're gonna discuss a little bit about the last item, okay? well hold on a second and now time for a discussion about the last item on Tech News I Wrote a column about this in PC magazine little native advertising here And by the way there was native advertising from Fiverr calm in that story an ABC which I think all stories eventually be all

1:52:47 Native advertising has gone pathetic. Although the FCC regulations that I've been looking at specifically forbid, and they have all kinds of ways to announce this on television if there's any compensation you have to disclaim that And they have size, if you're gonna do it in letters or in a font. It has to be 4% of the full screen height and there's a whole bunch of real regulations that... How about this for an idea? I'm the sales guy from ABC and I go up to McDonalds saying we need to do your quarter million dollar buy for the ads. Well hold on a second, hold on a second. Let's see what he says. Hello? Hello! Hello who is this?

1:53:34 I'm a salesman from ABC. Hey, ABC Disney! Hey how's Jeb Bush doing? He's not doing as well as we hope. We're kind of switching our coverage to somebody else the guys have done all right good way this is Ray from McDonalds Corporation and we're thinking about expanding our campaign and some of our dollars were kind of looking around looking for some pitches and see if anyone has any good ideas yeah we have a pretty good idea that's why i wanted to talk to you guys We like the quarter million buy-in for the month of coming up. Quarter million? What kind of GRPs will I get from my quarter million? It's really going to be a lot different than the way it used to be calculated because we have a great idea... Oh wait, you mean your thinking out of the box! Yeah what were thinking is that were gonna do a number of stories Like these stories are maybe about breakfast

1:54:25 all day. last month. So I won't have to pay for this or you're saying, I'm getting a cut rate of 250? No that's going to be totally free it's totally free. It's not gonna cost you anything but of course the buy-in...you're gonna do a buy in and then... Yeah because if you could jack it up to another 350 in December....it would look really strange if you know if you had this live shot and then you had the say FCC regulations as its... That's how we get around it Oh! I see what..its like a reach around

1:55:05 Yes, exactly. That's what we call it in fact we call the ABC reach around love it I feel good already good well We'll book you okay? It's a go write up that order all right Okay So what does the FCC say to that yeah, you're right? That's how it goes You said we didn't get paid for it damn Yeah, you're right. You know? You could be an executive! I could! In fact, I should be... Now i've been talking about the dangers of these personal assistants ever since they came out and we see my Amazon Echo device being triggered We see Siri being triggered especially if you say Siria Siria Siria Hey Siriya!

1:55:49 you know, that triggers her. If you say elections it triggers Alexa and depending on what these things are programmed to do you could conceive that bad things could happen now that is only if you have some form of voice broadcasting device if you're on television and people are watching it I have here in front of me a technical paper from Casme and Lopez Estevez titled IEMI threats for information security remote command injection on modern smartphones and here is what they Tested and decided again read the title again. It is ieie I triple e No, I'm sorry iemi threats for information security colon remote command injection on modern smartphones Okay

1:56:45 And this is a part of IEEE transactions on electromagnetic compatibility. So, if they figured out that you can trigger the voice control command... ...on a smartphone if you broadcast on 103 MHz and I believe that has to be amplitude modulation and you include the keyword following voice commands So we're not talking an audible signal to the phone, but actual radio transmission. Are you with me? Yeah it's great! So if you have enough power then you could reach a number of smartphones in any area of the electric signal

1:57:35 So all you need is a big tower, maybe one of the abandoned ones you could buy which has an amplifier or transmitter in it and 10 thousand watts or something like that on 50. They actually tried it with much less they did 25 to 30 volts per meter at 103 megahertz. And you can get different results with an FM modulated signal emitted on the same frequency and you can do the voice command, that's where you inject the actual command you want to be given so the wake up command is amplitude modulation and they don't...the smartphone they use which is not an iPhone but they've also done this with iPhones they claim You need AM modulation

1:58:23 and then to trigger the command FM modulation. So, you know this... their test was like a couple meters distance. That doesn't make any difference at the end of the day? Exactly! Exactly so this is a huge security hole It was designed for it yeah Not a hole at all And then I had a question of conscience for you Let's say your Google Which is... hold on a second, what am I thinking? I have a question of conscience for you. If you are programming a self-driving car and you need to program all these situations let's say that you are riding down the road and all of the sudden there is a school bus pulls over not even that, the school bus has gone hidden behind a car five school kids cross the road You have two choices

1:59:28 Either you go straight, you plow straight into the kids, possibly killing them. Or you veer to the left and face a head-on collision which might kill you Which one...which decision does your smart self driving car make? Well, I would think that it would stop. Let's say there are a number of situations that you can think of where there is no stopping. There is only a choice between the driver getting... This happens all the time John. It doesn't? Yes! It does! Only if you're speeding?! Oh God. Can you imagine a situation where you might have to choose between

2:00:06 putting yourself in danger or killing someone else. Is that imaginable at all to you? No Okay, well then... Then you're an unbelievable person I think there is enough evidence of this I'm always very cautious if i-if I've been like neighborhoods I drive and also left foot brake Which is I recommend to everybody, even though they were so... No don't do it. Well congratulations you can now join the Google auto driving car! I don't think so John i think there's plenty of cases But what would YOU do? Let's ask you the same question. You'd plow into the kids Well of course Just wanted to make sure that we had the question-of-conscious out there That's all Obviously kill the kids Facebook photos now being ingested for the National Biometric Database Hey great What?! Yep

2:00:58 Yeah, does that what you signed on for it doesn't say that in your terms of use when you signed on to use Facebook? You're a facebook user. I'm not you don't own anything they have full Full rights to give this certainly if there's a warrant oh yeah Absolutely and of course your tag why would hold on a second says we're doing tech news Why would anybody be a member of such a thing well because you can show how great your life is to everybody all your friends Mm-hmm Senator Scott... Senator... The price to pay is too high. Senator Scott Ludlam asked government officials if there was any law that could prevent the facial recognition system from accessing photos from social media sites? Answer, no! Of course not In fact it has the federal government's facial biometric matching capability in their national biometric database has the capability to do this and it apparently is being done

2:02:04 Well, it's easier that helps us identify people when the police state completely takes over even though it doesn't seem to really need to. That's the key and there's an interesting legal question on the horizon um this is coming from the Department of Justice they're trying to figure out actually they have one example they want to unlock a defendant's iPhone okay And Apple says, of course, well technically we can't bypass the security and we're not going to do this. But the government's strategy is very interesting. They're saying that software on the iPhone does not belong to the user of the iPhone if you read the very length... It's true it's licensed.

2:02:53 So the government is saying, hey this is your software. You own it we command you here's a warrant you need to unlock this. We command you to fix! Yeah And what does Apple say to that? Well this is a court case now Oh This is a court case I think they have a point Yeah well...this is not turning out well No, but it is real tech news. Well I got a real tech news then let's talk about the drones and drone papers which we've not talked about. I have some analysis of the drone papers... And i would like to say this

2:03:33 The mainstream media has ignored the drone papers. I mean, they made such a big deal when Snowden broke out all that stuff right? Or when WikiLeaks gets some memos or when Chelsea Manning sends something into the ether but the drone papers have been mum about it. And it looks like Twitter has some kind of logic they've baked in if you retweet the drone papers uh... the tweet doesn't necessarily show up Or are they using a clown filter? Could be. Where you see it, nobody else does. Bozo Filter, yeah could be. That sounds like something they could do. Yeah no these drones... So let's play this is the intro and then we'll hear your analysis because I haven't got much but this is a good little piece from Democracy Now! Of course they're not going to pass up something like this cause they've got Skay Hill and so they had their gonna talk This is the end of a longer piece but it does include the Skay Hill clip in a little bit at the end

2:04:28 from some British guy who is a lawyer involved with freedom and it just was I found the whole thing interesting. Is this the drone kill list? Drone kill list! Look at the US drone assassination program called The Drone Papers Exposing The Inner workings of how the drone wars wage, from how targets are identified to who decides to kill. They reveal a number of flaws, including that strikes have resulted in large part from electronic communications data or signals intelligence that officials acknowledge is unreliable." We spoke to Jeremy Scahill, co-founder of The Interest in SF—one of the lead reporters on this series.

2:05:05 One of the most significant findings of this—and my colleague Cora Currier really dug deep into this—is we published, for the first time in The Kill Chain, what the bureaucracy of assassination looks like. And what you see is that all of these officials, including people like the Treasury secretary, are part of signing off on all of this where they have these secret meetings And they discuss who's going to live and die around the world. And at the end of that process, it is the president of United States who signs what amounts to a death warrant for whoever they've decided should die.

2:05:43 The kill list is what Jeremy Scahill is talking about. Clive Stafford Smith, as we wrap up your response? Well, it's something that just horrifies me that—you know, I voted for President Obama twice and yet every Tuesday they have Terror Tuesday where there's a PowerPoint display in the White House and they decide much like Nero did back in the Colosseum in Rome whether to give the thumbs-up or the thumbs down for human beings who were just going to murder around the world And, you know, it begins with terrorism. But it'll move on. The British horrifyingly have already got a list of people that—on their list in Afghanistan where they're saying they're going to kill pedophiles for goodness sake! I mean, where does this end? They will just murder people worldwide.

2:06:24 We plan to do a lot to publicize that in the upcoming months. First they came for the pedophiles, then they came for the podcasters. When did you learn that Britain has a kill list to begin with? It was only couple of weeks ago. Frankly I'm very pleased because when both the Brits and Americans are doing it we can illustrate the folly of both instead of just picking on the US. I have two words for ya... Predator drones! Wooo! That's right, you'll never know what's coming Yeah there was- They're meant to blow up half of Parliament apparently. Yeah So he already mentioned most of this. It's not a lot that we didn't already know, I did find out some things reading through all the drone papers one is the drone base in Djibouti has expanded rapidly This thing is three times the size that it used to be and it truly is our center of operations

2:07:18 in Africa and of course for the Middle East. You know, it's right across the...right across the Gulf there from Yemen and you know this is command central This is where most of it comes from I also learned that of the ICARUS program which is...it's an acronym I'm just trying to see but we know what ICARUS is. ICARUS flew too close to the sun he got burned. ICARUS is Warfare drones that are meant to take out drones. So these are armed drones... The beginning of the end, World War 3 Wait until you get the swarms! Wait until the drones start swarming and then where they're all programmed to swarm together And then finally just a little piece of code which we need to be on lookout for which is E-K-I-A

2:08:08 This to me was the big revelation, because you can see this everywhere now in news stories. EKIA stands for Enemy Killed In Action which is code for civilian So if they kill people who they can't identify because they were civilians, it's an enemy killed in action. That is so no longer as a collateral damage no longer is it oops? They just redefine everything this day we talked about this on his previous show about the redefinitions that way you deal with a lot of political issues you redefined Just defend us to call us something different and you're good to go yeah exactly

2:08:45 We do have a bunch of people to thank for show 768. Yes. And including, we did come up with anyone read the last newsletter and notice that I had forgotten about it although at last our last show somebody came up with the 8888 donation of famous sack of AIDS

2:09:26 Which was, I think we first started this with the 5th anniversary or 6th anniversary maybe the sixth. Yeah the only problem is that there's no alliteration in that. A sack of sixes a sack of sevens but sack of eights it doesn't feel good. Well i like eights alright We got plenty of eights! We got lots of people who came in with a sack of eights Psycho 6, psycho 7, psycho 6, psycho 7. It does illiterate better but it doesn't change the idea. Jay Anonymous came in from Tigard Oregon 1-2-3-4-5 and he I want to just have a note here which is in red which means he's calling somebody out And please know that we there's no way for us to read all donation notes

2:10:22 In the regular donation segment just because of the you know for brevity sake. Yeah, it's reason we stopped doing it We used to do it but we bud for levity we will sometimes read one Yes or if there's somebody with some call-outs there you go and Jane anonymous wants to call out as douchebags uh-huh Seth James Adam Peterson and Haley Hunsinger I don't know He's got a problem with those folks. I guess apparently they're not donating and they're big listeners of the show at least that's the impression i'm given clay guilleland in chandler, Arizona 111 dollars and eleven cents A crocata computer services in pacifica california which is right down the street from me Not really it's against the ocean 100 Dame beth

2:11:15 Bora Zan, or Dame Beth of the Baronetess of Baja in Tucson Arizona 8948. And now we have about 20 people who've come in with the 80 SACA 8s. 8888? There you go! SACA 8s and I'm gonna read them off each individually. Brian Watson in Sugar Grove Illinois. Evveni Gitlin in Springfield Virginia. Which is called Eight Ballz Eight balls. An eight ball, we got an eight ball from these people! Alright we'll call it that for the last show is coming up on Thursday. Send us an eight ball. An eight ball yeah well you know these things come and go Jason Doolin in Lost Wages Nevada Christopher Dolan in Brookline Massachusetts Wesley Clark in Stanley North Carolina

2:12:10 James Zuckel in Los Angeles, California. I got all the mispronunciations for you guys. Christopher Dechter in Richland Washington Mark Plager-Pledger, I think, in Beaver Creek Ohio Jeremy Cochran... It's Janie on behalf of her husband Matthew Janie on behalf of her mother must bend Matthew James Wells and she's in which talk did you get that picture? I sent to you yeah You're the worst here we encourage this

2:12:51 James Wells in Flagstaff, Arizona. Philip Rodokinakis in Oak Hill, Virginia. Ben Smith in Greenville, Texas not to be confused with Benjamin Smith in Oakland Alexander Burr in Laval Quebec which I think is where the turbines used to be made Donald Winkler and Berlin Deutschland Frank Z... Alexander was Sir Chewy by the way sorry Okay, that's all right. Uh-uh Okay where was I Donald Winkler Berlin Deutschland? Yes said Frank D'Azoglio in Jamestown Rhode Island Rhode Island Robert Gashko and Sherwood Park Alberta Matthew Hickson in Sun City California Lauren a shirk Norman Oklahoma University of Oklahoma Sir Gavin of st.. George and Carlton Australia Eric Nagel in

2:13:51 Uh, Bush Schoten Spakenburg in Utrecht. Yeah that's fine very close Netherlands Bunschote Spakenburg, go on Toppers! Kevin Thomas in Smirnov Georgia Peter Vednor in Carmel Indiana Adam Willis in Washington DC oh Matthew, we should get more Washington DC numbers. Matthew Lower in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Sir Black Balls of Twit, Glenview Illinois. James Rocket in Kitchener Ontario Canada. Barcelona Jazz in Edinburgh UK.

2:14:37 Van Glitchka in Salem, Oregon. Zachary Gilbrecht in Cordova Tennessee Todd Troutman in Austin Texas right down the street from you Michael Zilz... what is that? Zills or Zillis? Zillas Illinois Robert Dreykussen in Oshkosh Wisconsin Nicholas Charbonnier in Arzières Switzerland we need more Swiss Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas. Sir Josh Mandel in Greenville South Carolina and wrapping up we got Garrett Reed in San Diego California and also Harvey Lee in Federal Way Washington which is actually the name of a town thank you all so much for these nicest anniversary

2:15:24 That was all nice stuff. We'd send us more 8-balls for Thursday. James Moore in San Pablo, California comes in with $80 and then we drop to Sir Chewy in Laval another dweller of Laval Quebec 7711 Richard McGiff in Virginia Beach Virginia Eric Bird in Baltimore Maryland 6666 Richard Giff was 75 and Chewy is the 7711 Eric, whoops we got the cursor right on top of his name. Eric Bird in Baltimore, Maryland just said it's 6666 Sir Kevin Dills Charlotte North Carolina 6432 I like that number 6432 6432 why? I don't know because he is missing a 5 and it's noticeable

2:16:11 Yes, it is. Sir Andrew Ball in Andy Bence in St Louis 5678 Howard LaHiro in Worcester Massachusetts Stephen Schnabel in Achnasheen UK double nickels on the dime Wrapping down to Harry Sepulveda in San Diego, California 5280. These are also I think something special though this is a mile high guys Carl Penfield and Clarksburg Maryland 5280 Mark Klein in Barron Wisconsin 5280 Justin Thompson 5150 in Elk Grove California Carla Kruger in Montgomery Alabama

2:16:57 Joe Schwartzbauer in Florissant, Missouri. Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville Georgia. These are $50 I'm just going to name 50 dollar guys. Macy Stolowitz is Calgary Alberta. Sir Mark Tanner of course in Whittier, California. Comes in every two weeks. Bill Hudick in Timonium which is a great name for town Maryland and that concludes everything I do have a note from Carla Kruger which I will send to Adam but it involves his take on vaccines as she wrote along handwritten notice by the way she has very this is an example of readable longhand how beautiful I mean it's very pretty at where we stay with teachers in school

2:17:42 So she has to be past a certain age or she wouldn't have been able to do this. It's not calligraphy, it's just really pretty longhand and I want to thank all these folks for helping us out on the show. Tina The Keeper also has that beautiful old school handwriting, cursive... Yeah! That's beautiful I can do cursive, but it looks like crap. Yes But I was trained to do it by just that's just you don't do it much when you're typing all the time So this gets terrier a you lose it You lose it and its foreboding you can write cursive anymore in school That's not allowed we want block letters from your dumb kids. That's right lock letters

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2:20:00 My god, so hard. You can't make money on this stuff which of course we don't really So be on the lookout for your ring soon We'll let you know The back office will be in touch Then we have three nightings today John I'm very happy so if... I'll bring my blade out here There ya go Yep thank you very much Could we have the following people on stage Sir Gavin of St George Well actually Gavin of St George Andy Benz and Michael Mugler Gentlemen all three of you have supported the best podcast in the universe Whoa, hold on. Wrong list. Are you going to knight him again? No! I'm not gonna knight him again. Here we go. Cliff Howell Michael Muggler Jason Doolan Alright gentlemen you have for this episode supported the best podcast in the universe with an amount of $1,000 or more therefore i am very proud to pronounce the date The Sir Gator Of Gitmo-Murica

2:20:50 Sir Michael Mugler and Sir Jansen, Knight of the Oxcart. Gentlemen for you we have Hookers & Blow, Red Boys and Chardonnay Black Holes and MD-2020 Root Beer Pepperoni Pizza Progressive Rock and Russian Imperial Stout Malted Barley and Hops Dos Equis and Dutch Dominatrix Pornstars in Pot Cabinets and Cabernet Hotpants and Booze Bonghits and Bourbon And of course The ever present Mutton and Mead Thank you all very much Enjoy your Hookers & Blow Isn't it interesting? You know, Lamar Odom. We talked about that story that he was... Yeah you did. He had a mix of cocaine and herbal supplements. It's now gone to herbal supplements. They don't even say sexual enhancement products

2:21:38 But the crazy... Originally saying Herbal Viagra was a trademark and they couldn't do that. Right, but now you know Khloe Kardashian she's called off the divorce and I'm thinking this has got to be the first time in history that a guy has saved his marriage with hookers and blow. Yeah. I'll take one. Give yourself one. Hey we've got a note from Sir Atomic Rod He says, thank you for the generous mention on show 766. Gentlemen it is an exaggeration to describe the core size for a ship or sub reactor as football sized

2:22:15 This we were remember we were trying to figure out how big it would be to actually use some nuclear power with the new modern reactors Right. He says it's possible to design functional cores that small but the power output would only be a few tens of kilowatts Might be enough for a small commercial building or grocery store without violating any rules ahem He says, I can tell you that the core of my 1960s vintage sub which were 425 feet long. These are like the run silent run deep jobbies. This is a hunt for red October and had a crew of 150 displaced 9000 tons The core could fit under my office desk There ya go The core drove the subs for 14 to 16 years Modern US subs can run for oh yeah

2:23:04 33 years without refueling. I don't know how large their cores are though. Sir Rod, Sir Atomic Rod Adams the baronet of Blue Ridge and we appreciate that info sir Rod? Well i think this is all academic because we should just assume that the whole atomic thing 50s technology that's useless and it's gonna irradiate kill everybody. It's hopeless It's no good Yeah, tear down the reactors tear them down well There was this approval for one new reactor I saw oh One I know what crazy is a crazy This is the most ridiculous little I think

2:23:49 It's just to take a technology which has now been taken to an extreme of efficiency and to just blow it off because you want wind power. Well, because people have been programmed. They've been programmed into thinking that no one is... the actual people who are interested in technology and science have no desire apparently to go look at the science of modern nuclear reactors, breeder reactors they have no desire so you are in fact anti-science Yes! Even though this is the definition of reusable energy because the new reactors eat their own waste No waste? No waste.

2:24:31 Got a note from producer Carrie. Adam and John, over the past few months you've been discussing mass shootings in the link to medications I feel you're both on the right track. I thought I would share with you... Over the past few years It is years yes correct But i thought it would share my experience with you This got my attention like oh man! The guy went killed somebody cool but no I have had epilepsy my entire life now My old doctor who I've seen since around 1977 had me on the same medication phenobarbital since I was diagnosed in the early 80s. Since moving to my new neurologist, since moving my new neurologists has suggested a new medication." You would have rolled your eyes at his sales pitch through slightly unintelligible English because he's of course a provider not a doctor and he went on to tell me how i should not be taking the Pheno and should be on Phi Compa you might want to look that up John F Y C O M P A phi compa yeah his assertion

2:25:33 was the phenobarbital only should be used by children and as a quote peer-reviewed epilepsy specialist he said, and our producer says I don't know what the hell that means. He said he should be on a newer medication. He likened the new medication to the iPhone of all things telling me it was quote new technology And how would be a new man when I was weaned off the phenobarbital When I finally relented, he had a look like a kid in the candy shop. He scurried down to his office and came back with four packets of samples that would last me around 30 days. I could almost see the dollar signs in his eyes as he instructed how to transition into new drugs

2:26:11 I decide to try the new medication after about six months of his pestering me. Mind you, the new medication with my insurance cost me $50 without it it's at least twelve hundred dollars for a 30-day supply My old medication was five dollars with insurance forty dollars without. Makes sense Cost alone though is not the only thing that gives me pause The side effects are somewhat concerning I have attached a scan of the warnings from my pharmacy Have you looked up this drug yet? Yeah, you can get aggression or anger. Anxiety, clumsiness, unsteadiness means you fall down stairs Is there an ad for this? Dry mouth is on drugs dot com. Dry mouth hyperventilation... No I haven't seen one Hyperventilation irregular heart beats irritability restlessness

2:26:57 Shakiness and unsteady walk, shortness of breath, sleepiness, unusual drowsy-ness. Trouble sleeping... You're drowsy but you can't sleep! I love that. Here is the warning from the pharmacy which is part of Walgreens Ready? Warning This drug may cause mental problems or make them worse. It may also cause bad problems with how you act, ideas of killing yourself or murder forceful actions fury anxiety and anger have happened with its use These problems have happened in people with and without a history of mental or mood problems Yeah that sounds like something I need to try That doesn't sound good

2:27:44 I think this is evidence. I've never heard this type of disclaimer." Yeah, that's a good one. That is... That's a good one you're right. That is evidence. This drug company should be...if there was an example that's happening well I'm sure there are some oh no we gave a disclaimer to... There must be some liability issues with it they've gotten by from legislation to be selling any of these drugs to the public I don't know. Like the vaccination thing? Yeah, could be...I don't know about that Well, I haven't heard of anybody ever getting sued over some guy taking a pill and then going out and murdering his wife Well we saw this with shantix or shampics in Europe

2:28:31 So what's this guy gonna do? What is our producer going to do, is he gonna take it? He's taking it. He says... He says he feels really dizzy and doesn't like it Oh then go back to the phenobarbital It was working fine wasn't it Yeah I don't know We wish him well Then I'd go back to my old doctor and get a longer one That's what I would too Let see now we have These guys are irresponsible! Yeah yeah its effed up Were we not talking about Vicky Newton-Noodleman, Victoria Newland in the Balkans? Yeah. Where is she now? Where's Victoria? We need a jingle! Where's Victoria Newland-Noodleman Kagan?!

2:29:14 Well, she visited Montenegro July 14th 11th to 14th and looks like we have a color revolution in progress as we speak Protesters calling for the prime minister to step down. Yeah good work Vicky Wow yeah Vicki yeah you just got all you gotta do is follow her The revolutions follow her it's amazing there's gotta be some investment advice You can get from from following her A lot of short selling I'd say. Oh yeah, a lot of puts. Polish elections today looks like the right wing is going to win Portugal Now this was... did you see the Portuguese elections? No, I missed that Okay so I'm not...I'm hoping I have this right but what is his name Silva

2:30:14 Anibal Cavaco Silva, Portugal's constitutional president has refused to appoint a left-wing coalition government even though it secured an absolute majority in parliament and won the mandate to smash the austerity regime. But he thought it was too risky to let the Left Bloc or the communists come close to power so now I guess if we put together a strange coalition that is not really representative of what the people voted for Because you know these people are dangerous. They can't have me even though they won some votes They can't get into the government or there'll be opposition let's put it that way no I we need we need some we ever know start looking at We got we get a lot of people in this and we have a single Portugal tell us what's going on Yeah, exactly The Polish election should be interesting though because that's kind of our main You know our main place for rockets and stuff

2:31:14 Yeah, and rendition sites. Speaking of rockets I learned that the Dutch Safety Board... they have admitted this now in a kind of an obscure blog post by one of the people on the committee in Dutch acknowledged that they came to their conclusions about MH17 without using radar data Okay Which means you know there's no discussion Of course there isn't because they didn't use that data There is no discussion of other aircraft, anything else in the air at the same time. So instead of discussing that they just decided well we won't use any radar data. So their whole conclusion is from the puzzle pieces that they put together in The Hangar it took them two years and then they see oh there's some shrapnel here so this was how it happened? Not used

2:32:14 No radar that bull crap is what you're saying. Yeah, well we knew that but I thought this was an interesting little piece of data the which is now being Reported on it's never gonna be obviously here's one Did we bring this up or was this? I think this was along with some article You sent me about Hillary oh yeah, I know what it was he was about at Chelsea Clinton not being the daughter of Bill and But being the daughter of Webster Hubble. Hubble Web, Web, Web, Webster Hubble. Yeah okay so this guy looks just like so it's probably true. So Chelsea was signing books somewhere and this guy Robert Morrow went up to her and asked her some questions. Hi Robert!

2:32:59 Hey Chelsea, has your mother ever told you that you're the daughter of Webb Hubble and not Bill Clinton? I'm so proud to be my parents' daughter. Okay, thank you sir. One quick question about this book right here? Sure! You say it's targeted towards teenage girls It's targeted actually to kids girls and boys Would you say that Bill Clinton also targets teenage girls except for sexual reasons I would say my book is really resonating with kids I was at the Ann Richards school earlier today And i'm so grateful that its resonating to young girls This is great

2:33:36 Yeah, she does. She is great. You got a hand it's yours constantly fantastic good word I'm guessing by the way yeah just completely that was a setup Well, no that was sure but it didn't go anywhere so who cares? But I'm guessing that the Reb Hubbell thing makes a...I'm guessing about Bill and all his sexual exploits. And the age he was at and the era that he was in and the schools that he went to and people that he hanged out with. Hanged out or hung out? I don't care. Had a vasectomy probably when he was young Do you think he has the lesbian look

2:34:17 He's getting it. Yeah, hmm doesn't look good for his age well according to that long piece that we read together he has a like a two inch pecker Well I don't know about that but he I think, you know because it was very common during that. That was the period in the 70's that we had the population bomb. Ah yes everybody was doing it! This is the era of too many people by 2000 were all going to be dead... climate change scare of the moment. The same people? Same people and we're gonna all...the population bomb Erdman over here at Stanford or wherever, I think is still there. We're all gonna die! We've got too many people! We should all you know get a good stop breathing for God's sake and i think i would guess that in that era that Clinton would be that kind of guy

2:35:12 He had all the earmarks of a guy who would do that. I know people who have done it from that era, and they ended up regretting it. And you never considered this did you? God no! I have two stories from your neck in the woods... By the way, that's the topic what we just discussed there is something you'll never hear even discussed and its not offensive. No one would even discuss something like this on any radio show other than ours And we're not even a radio show. We're just a podcast. For crying out loud, we're podcasts. Okay two stories from your neck of the woods one well not your neck of the woods actually that is wrong this is from Washington State

2:35:59 So that's up in Mimi's neck of the woods. With a motive for justice, transparency and closure The University of Washington's Center for Justice wanted to take on the CIA Earlier this month it sued the agency hoping to get documents connected to the American government's involvement in El Salvador civil war three decades ago For years, the Center has researched a series of massacres believed to have been committed by the El Salvadoran military. And for years requests for information from the CIA have been rebuffed for varying reasons. Fast forward to late last week. In a statement released today, the Center for Human Rights says it was broken into by unknown parties. Director Dr. Angelina Godoy says her computer and hard drive with almost all of the center's research was stolen The center said that is concerned because sensitive personal details were taken but also because it believes it is possible this was an act of retaliation for its work

2:36:55 The statement says there was no forced entry and Dr. Godoy's office was the only one targeted. Hmm, must be part of that reorg John Brennan is doing. Gee! I wonder who could have wanted to take that? It seems so unlikely the CIA would do that themselves... So i have a an official three by three report Oh hold on a second we cannot do the 3x3 Without the official 3x3 jingle, are you ready to go? I'd say crank it. So I don't know if CBS has somebody in the back office in some suit

2:37:53 or something, but CBS on the main news after all these reports about guns. They opened a spot, I don't know how you can look at this. This is the weird gun editorial on CBS. They opened a spot in the middle of the news hour or the news half-hour and this network and they gave this guy this huge moment to talk about using guns. Calling for more gun control laws his daughter Allison and fellow journalist Adam Ward were shot to death in the summer tonight another view from a gun rights organization

2:38:31 I'm Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America where we have advocated really ever since Columbine that the problem of mass murder in this country is the gun-free zone. We have a federal law that says schools must be gun free zones unless a state goes through an enormous amount of trouble all but two of the mass murders in our country have occurred in gun free zones Even while our violent crime rate has been going down, more Americans are owning guns but not in gun-free zones. An armed citizen a good guy with a gun is the way you stop a crime when there's a bad guy with the gun he stops when a good guy with a gun is around and until we kind of deal with that basic fact and we insist on disarming good guys then were gonna give the advantage to bad guys

2:39:26 Gun owners of America has supported a measure that's been in the Congress for several terms now, that would treat your concealed carry permit the same way as your driver's license is. If you have it in one jurisdiction then its going to be good anywhere in the country The view of Larry Pratt of gun owners of America I think thats where its going I think so too, but i just found this to be very peculiar. They stopped the show for all practical purposes and put... Yeah, I think it has to do with equal time bull crap someone's... yeah but there's no real laws about that. This had to be some suit! Some gun guy at CBS who has got enough cojones that he said look if you're gonna keep doing these stories let's bring this guy on and give him an editorial spot. You've never seen that before

2:40:20 No, I don't think of it. I've heard the driver's license meme which i like a lot no and i'm talking about the idea understand i understand no yeah but i've never seen that come out on national show like this and yak yak yak just one camera shooting nobody around no very strange i heard you know i liked the driver's license idea too uh an uber driver the other day i should have recorded it but most of them pretty like no good recently um He said, you know talking about driving. I'm not going to drive New Year's Eve this year or why not? Well at midnight the open carry law goes into effect. It says people will be walking around with holsters with handguns strapped to their belt. Oh that's in Texas? Yeah! And you know what i'm gonna be doing Walking around with guns Hell yeah! I'm carrying the judge around just go out to the grocery store

2:41:14 Yeah, I was walking around hey everybody. How you doing? You can call me Tex Tex yeah you should be called Tex Kid curry kid curry okay here's a trend that I think people is this still the three by three no Experiment five JC comparing stories for ABC CBS and NBC It was one of the networks that reported, even though it's really a local story. But I...it's a California story and I want to just play the story because this is a major trend that we'll all be hearing about and right now is just happening in a school over here in San Rafael but this is...I mean everyone in our family has these desks so let's play the standard desk clip. I have a standing desk myself!

2:42:11 Yes, it's a finally tonight. It's an idea that some swear by in the office I'm doing it right now But can it work in the classroom our Joe Fryer takes us to a school? That's solving the age-old problem of getting kids to sit still and pay attention By not having them sit at all Students at Baliceto Elementary in Northern California are taking a stand. I really like it! Spending much of the day on their feet at new standing desks. I just focus better when i'm standing Thumbs up if you agree Teachers like Amanda Gray say they're seeing a big difference. I noticed that I can hold their attention for longer because I feel like their brains and bodies are active and more awake

2:42:55 For students, it's like a lesson in Newton's first law. It's like a body at rest stays at rest but a potty...in motion stays in motion. After testing the idea in a few classrooms last year the school dumped all of its old-fashioned desks replacing them with taller models even the principal has one if someone walks in and says well kids shouldn't be standing all day. What do you say to that? We actually don't have them standing all day." Students can take a seat whenever they're feeling tired and every desk has a fidget bar to keep kids moving. Having you hunched over, you're sitting tall. Researcher James Levine says getting kids to move more during the school day actually helps them in the classroom Their scores are better their attention is better this specific skill development is better

2:43:47 lost. Parents at Vallecido raised $110,000 for new desks with help from Juliet Starrett's organization Stand Up Kids. Our mission is to get these desk into as many public schools as we can in the next 10 years hopefully all of them. Standing desk are gradually popping up in classrooms and offices around the country. I think for Christmas people should start asking A growing movement for more movement. Joe Fryer, NBC News San Rafael California Now, I love that package by the way. The way they piece together the little kids saying oh meh meh meh and then it's a thumbs up, thumbs up they threw in just gratuitous stuff, moved it... That package even though doing a story about this trend but that package is something to be studied by wannabe broadcasters It was very slick

2:44:45 What is the point now? Does this make a difference I hear that it doesn't make a difference. I don't think it makes much of a difference But you know get you off your butt, but I like I always stand during the show Yeah, your show your broadcast standard which is rare No, it's not rare with top 40 DJs. Well they're all hyped up Yeah that's why exactly That's why you do it because you know You gotta be able to project really well Kid Curly everybody right here I'm rocking Z100! Call it 100 wins WHTZ I should have followed that up with an explosion There ya go The flamethrower I was waiting Um... Alright yeah and I know people who do it They stand up

2:45:32 I don't know some people have tall chair. Podcasters do it standing up, John But for the most part most broadcasters that i know don't do it. Don't do it okay uh I have one last thing It's a shorty and that'll And that'll all be, this is breaking news everybody. Breaking news! Former IRS official Lois Lerner will not face criminal charges for allegedly targeting Tea Party groups The Justice Department ended a two-year probe today and said that it found no evidence that anyone at the IRS acted out of political motives. Lerner once headed the unit that handles applications for tax exempt status There you go That's neatly wrapped up

2:46:14 Yep. When are they going to start arresting people in these governments? I like that Iceland sentenced a crap load of bankers, let's see who caused their crash. Let me see how many there was... 26 bankers sent to prison. Good! Absolutely good. Well we can't do any of that No, no. All right John I think i need to start resting up and getting ready for the big celebration The gun carrying? No our eighth anniversary dude! Oh yes it's on Thursday It is well that's our celebration tomorrow of course is um... The actual date Celebrate eight great years everybody Eight great how do you do this how do you do a show of this caliber twice a week

2:47:09 For eight years and managed to keep it so people really like it. And they we get a bigger audience is growing Here's the number one done I don't know but here's the number one thing I'm just don't want us to end like Siskel and Ebert That didn't end really nicely did it well siskel on the Ebert is not this is different It's a video show no, I understand but you know They were a team Yeah, there's a lot of teams that come and go they did it for like 20 years or so They were on I know then you know one guy he's got one guy died cancer. They died they're old yeah exactly I don't want to die. I want get old I met both those guys Cisco really wasn't much of a sketchy his relationship the Ebert

2:47:56 Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 in the Crackpot Condo, and the Leaky Condo in downtown Austin Texas. In the morning everybody I'm Kid Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's not leaky... yet! I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday to celebrate eight great years right here on NO Agenda Remember us at dvorak dot org slash N-A When the ocean rises just this much, this whole area will be underwater. That's what you gotta get your heads around

2:48:40 And nine hours and 15 minutes into the hearing, Mrs. Clinton was asked her 218th question It was about where she was the night of the attacks Who else was at your home? Were you alone I Was alone yes the whole night Well, yes the whole night. I don't know why that's funny? Did you have any in-person briefings? I don't find it funny at all. That is the land of unconfirmed videos. We came, we saw... he died! Do you have anything to do with this? As a general rule I am just fine with drinking the booze Hold on a second, and drinking the booze No no no no no no no no no no no no no no hey! No no no no no no no no no no no no no Listen, listen, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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2:50:55 You can either stay and be quiet or I will have to take you out. Okay, where was i? Unicorns! Yay! Adios, mofo. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no no no no no no no no no no no no look it's your... No, I'm not sure that this is at all And wash your hands after touching any raw meat.