Episode 671 · Thursday, 20 November 2014

White House Moat

A former CIA ambassador breaks silence on North Korean diplomacy while the Senate battles over pipelines and the media legacy of a comedy icon collapses.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 57m listen | 44 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 671

About this episode

The media landscape shifts as networks TV Land and NBC distance themselves from Bill Cosby following a surge of sexual assault allegations. Historical analysis of Cosby’s career, including his role on the 1960s series I Spy, suggests deep-rooted cooperation with government intelligence agencies. Meanwhile, the Senate Keystone XL Pipeline vote descends into theater as Senator Barbara Boxer utilizes controversial visual aids to decry the environmental impact of the Port Arthur refinery.

Former CIA official and Ambassador to South Korea Donald Gregg provides a rare look into the agency's internal culture, confirming a long-standing rivalry with the NSA and expressing empathy for Edward Snowden. Gregg details his recent diplomatic efforts in North Korea, characterizing Kim Jong Un as a leader focused on tourism and nuclear negotiations despite the failed 2012 Leap Day Agreement. Additional reports indicate the Ukrainian Central Bank has depleted its gold reserves, while Russian sanctions on European agricultural imports devastate the Polish apple industry. In the energy sector, Halliburton announces a $34.6 billion acquisition of Baker Hughes to consolidate the oil services market.

Adam Curry recounts a six-hour summit with his Uncle Don Gregg to discuss the 'collect everything' culture of modern surveillance. The program also welcomes new knights Sir Ladyfingers and Sir Quistan of Lincolnshire into the No Agenda fold. Between critiques of the unrealistic technical jargon in the CBS drama Scorpion and the impractical proposal for a White House security moat, the hosts examine the psychology of online cynicism and the rising protests over Irish water charges.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Podcast Introduction and Weather Report Banter

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program with their signature banter, reporting from Austin, Texas (FEMA Region 6) and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts engage in a comedic role-play involving undocumented immigrants and weather machines to satirize mainstream media field reporting.

adam curry· john c dvorak· fema region 6· silicon valley· drone star state

00:00 I'm shaking in my boots now. 65 degrees and sunny with weather and traffic on the H here in FEMA region 6 in the capital of drone star state In the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where there's weather on the On yeah, yeah on the ground that guess is what I was gonna say. I'm John C DeVore I'm sorry, you're fired from the show. It always takes me a while to get started and then blow these little bumbos that I... because I always bounce it off of what you said so it's an ad lib but half the time I can't deliver it But no! You just not delivering, your'e like the mailman, your'e not coming home. Well you know, I just woke up. Your'e not punching into the mailbox Okay ill give you a chance to redeem yourself

00:59 We're gonna start over? No, you're going to- You're in the studio. You're gonna toss it to me I'm outside on location ready and with the weather we've got Adam Curry out there on the street Adam John thank you very much! Yes as you can see We've got the wind machine and thunder snow here. I'm in 18 feet of snow! I'm standing here with a family of 33 undocumented immigrants, and on behalf of The Novagenda Show we want you to know that we have notified our lawyers... ...we have cancelled all contracts and projects with Bill Cosby. Back to you in the studio John! Thank You Adam be well

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Bill Cosby Sexual Assault Allegations and Media Narrative

The discussion centers on the sudden influx of sexual assault allegations against Bill Cosby and the subsequent cancellation of his projects by networks like TV Land. Analysis suggests the timing is suspicious, potentially serving as a media-driven effort to dismantle Cosby's legacy of racial bridge-building during a period of heightened civil unrest.

bill cosby· whoopi goldberg· the cosby show· racial tension· sexual assault

01:36 Be safe, I think is what it says. Oh be safe right? So I just encapsulated the entire news That's pretty much 25 seconds exactly what's going on and apparently Bill Cosby is now running the kids through Guatemala What a bastard something like that well that's an interesting hit job not you bring that isn't it though Isn't it though It looks just it looks so like you look if you don't do this for us we're gonna ruin your life It's just like out of the blue and in fact people like whoopie Goldberg have kind of picked up on this and she's defending my wife Who used to produce comedy and knows a lot of comics a lot? Yeah, let's be honest comics are sexual deviance. She says that

02:23 that even when they're working Modesto, these comics have a huge following of crazy girls that will throw themselves at them. You don't have to drug somebody to get laid if you're a comic that actually goes on stage! It's ludicrous and a guy like Cosby who had a hit show I Spy and he was starting the Cosby Show would've had them lined up! So what is this point of drugging them? And they always seem to wake up by the way, if you read these stories. I've read a couple. I don't want to talk about this too long now but you read these stories and it's like I was drugged an when I woke he was taking my pants away in a minute It seems to me that if you were drunk when you passed out as when he'd be taking your pants off not When you woke up What's the point well You know the thing that

03:14 It's unavoidable, this Cosby thing. And the only thing I keep coming back to just as the simplest that is what is happening today as we've looked at you know the Ferguson situation which is a racial tension being completely spurred on by media... Oh even look at The Netherlands with the... Black. All right! Yeah, right? Our man came through. Cosby did something that I feel was so important in American media he made a show that completely demolished any semblance of difference between black and white

04:04 you know, the Cosbys could have been white but they were black and so there were some...you know he listened to Ray Charles or you know there were black references but it was completely colorblind in a way. It was really smart what he did and to me it's like maybe that's just the light, you know he's planning his comeback and this is the last thing that had to be removed hey You know we need to have a racial war get that Cosby guy out He is messing it up for us And he also- He's always on a lot of shows moaning and groaning about blacks not being able to do this exactly Black crime and all that yeah

04:44 And now, who knows whether these allegations are true but it just seems odd that even though this is...most of the stuff is dredged back from almost a decade ago or dredged... More and more. 30 years ago some of it. Well I mean that was...I know but the time he actually went to court was about 10 years ago. somebody came out of the woodwork and they just settled out of court. And as soon as that cash passed, you'd think there would be...then you think they'll be coming out of the woodwork to get money but no! Ten years later we have all this all at once and it's just coming in from every which way. His shows canceled he got canceled from Letterman right? He's been hit every which way TV Land dropped all of the...you know they used

05:26 run reruns, which he gets residuals for. That's done. So it's like a huge... It just too much all at once against one guy in a very odd way with people coming out of the woodwork who are all sketchy. Did you see Don? When he did the thing I spyed- There ya go! I don't believe for a minute that he wasn't working with the intelligence agencies because you're not going to do a show like that in 1960. It was 65, let me take a look. I spy was 65 through 68 You're not gonna be doing a show like that without help from the government

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Bill Cosby's Historical Performance Fees and Intelligence Ties

A historical look at Bill Cosby's career highlights his work on the 1960s show "I Spy," with claims that such a production likely required cooperation with government intelligence agencies. Anecdotes from Empire Entertainment founder JB Miller describe Cosby's high-earning nights in Manhattan, where he reportedly made $150,000 per 45-minute set.

bill cosby· i spy· jb miller· empire entertainment· intelligence agencies

06:07 And he had to be cozied up at that point. I don't know if he's been...I mean, just the whole thing is very fishy. When J.B. Miller my buddy who turned 50 who in New York...I'm back in Austin by the way for those of you wanting to know but I know it sounds like him could be anywhere in the world. No, you sound fine So JB, his Empire Entertainment Company. I mean they just produced the big Ebony 100 year thing in California honoring Quincy Jones but he does all of these huge elitist parties and he started off earlier by really booking talent for the big parties before we started producing them and he told me that he used to book Bill Cosby in Manhattan three shows a night

06:53 Half an hour to 45 minutes each, Cosby would walk from one to the next. All he would need is a chair and a microphone. He'd come in sit down on the chair turn the chair backwards do his half-hour forty five minutes people love it hundred and fifty thousand dollars and then walks to the next one. He would be doing almost half a million dollars in a night walking from gig to gig That's good money. Oh, it's more than we're making yeah, that's for sure hey returning from From New York We caught the beginning of the big freeze on Tuesday You you missed it then you got lucky no we got the beginning of it just as I started okay Yeah, it was minus five in Manhattan and was that's cold. It was very very cold

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

TSA Pre-Check Failures and Social Media Interaction

One of the hosts details a frustrating experience at the airport where he was denied TSA Pre-Check status despite being a registered "trusted traveler." The segment covers a subsequent Twitter exchange with a TSA media representative and explores whether the denial of service was a random occurrence or a targeted technical error.

tsa· pre-check· delta airlines· trusted traveler· social media

07:44 And once again, I was denied my right as a trusted traveler. And Miss Mickey of course pre-checked fly right on through. You're telling me the woman that's been... she's been sent out of the country? Deported. She has been deported refused entry and hounded. On a list from some list and she just waltzes through, and you the good-natured American never committed a crime citizen. I wouldn't go that far but nothing that... no i've been checked! I'm a trusted traveler, I went to Houston, I did the test. What's getting in that program if you can't get through the thing quickly? So I tweeted

08:27 to the TSA and because I was mad. I mean, good. I was mad now. I was really...I was mad at Mickey. She's like, I'm so sorry honey this is what can I do? Except nothing! I'll wait for you on the other side dear. Oh and she had time to shop. I'll be shopping for on the other side while you're in this long line So i tweeted uh to TSA and TSA blog And I-and I was oh I really wanted to say yeah I wanted to say some really horrible stuff Yeah, but I decided to kind of play it cool and you know just say okay. And I got a reply. Huh? Yeah from TSA media underscore Ross F. So I guess they got some guy. Here's my tweet denied pre-check twice in a row question mark that is not random I thought i was a trusted traveler land of the free hashtag what a joke

09:22 Then, uh... so Ross- That's not Snide-no. I had all kinds of F words and stuff in mind because that was how mad- You were hoppin' mad. Uh then we get an it's almost like the TSA tweeter works for Comcast Cares is the same guy at Adam Curry, let me know how I can help. But have you seen these tips? And he, and then it's got to do with anything that shows up on your ticket. No, the tip says make sure that uh, you know, that, that you have your trusted traveler number in the right place. Believe me, I'm not an idiot people. Jeez. So um, and then I tweeted back cause he said, you know, let me know how I can help by tweeting back and say

10:08 T at TSA media Ross F. Did you actually just say I'm from the government and I'm here to help? Nice, hey nice little accent. I like that do that again. Just put it down what is that what is that thing Is that a bass guitar you have an electric bass you have an electric base now What does that I should get one though That'd be good But then I hit this kind of a clunker so I'm not gonna try to keep my instruments into You know things they can put in my pocket That is a giant copper kettle with a rubber band around it. Wow! You made this yourself, didn't you? This morning I had this big rubber band that fell out of the drawer and said... ...I know what i can do with this giant rubber band! Good, I like it! But I have a little new instrument. You've heard this instrument before. Yeah, it's from The Beatles song. Top that. It was hard to top that Anyway so now that's uh..that's what you get

11:08 That was it? Yeah. End of story so they couldn't really do anything well they must be putting the number in wrong no but I've done this many times since we've had it, never had a problem now what's going on who'd you fly with what was the carrier Delta Delta who I fly with all the time doesn't like you know Delta has nothing to do with The other ones are dead. I don't know, but anyway just stay on the... I just want to do... It has to be on the boarding pass that's Delta's responsibility No they check the TSA database and then the TSA says yes or no? I have one uh... That's true Yeah yeah i'm sure Maybe it's on the boarding pass you just don't know where it is I was coming..I wasn't gonna fight... No! It's not about me not knowing where it is it's not on the boarding pass John I know how this works excuse me

11:58 But that's not so you're saying they're out to get ya. No, I'm saying that it's not random and something and I don't think they're out to get me now. I don't but if it happens again yeah this isn't this is not just random forget about it maybe we have a TSA listener who just does it? I don't know It's possible So let me see that This will be fun See what he does also being part of the show Now Yeah well then Do something original people Have him arrested I want to finish up this Cosby thing I have a little clip In case you didn't hear because this was the best I've ever heard considering the circumstances. Don Lemon talking to Joan Tarshan. Oh yeah, Joan, she's the one who... This is her story? I read her story just as a little background. She's the last one that came out of The Woodward. You know her? Does Mimi know her? You say that like you guys know her No! Okay no i just read it i read this

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Don Lemon's Controversial Interview with Joan Tarshis

The hosts criticize CNN anchor Don Lemon for his interview with Bill Cosby accuser Joan Tarshis, specifically his suggestion that she could have used physical violence to stop the assault. The discussion also touches on Janice Dickinson's involvement in the media coverage and the inconsistent public reaction to various accusers.

don lemon· joan tarshis· cnn· janice dickinson· sexual assault

12:53 Heard the explanation she was 19. She was a writer Comedy writer and she was gonna write a monologue or writing a monologue he took her to his place drugged her with some specific drink And then then when she woke up, she found he was starting to take her pants off So I thought that was strange peculiar peculiar Peculiar you think you when you were drugged? You would get two pants off and then be done with you by the time you woke up But no, and then he says you gotta call it. She's irked and I'd say the least, but she didn't call anybody to do anything about it. She went home to her parents and then Cosby called inviting her to some event and their parents were all giddy so she felt like she had to go So she went anyway And then in the second time he offers her a drink and she says okay! And drinks it and gets drugged again! Alright... This doesn't make any sense to anyone We need to stop this, but I need to play this Don- Yes, we have to stop this. I don't want to talk about this But its funny

13:50 Here's Don Lemon talking to her and he has a very important question which I think Don Lemon should be fired for this. I mean, fired! Why women are not up in arms about You know, if someone comes out and says I was raped the first thing you can never say why didn't you defend yourself? That's crazy that he said that but then the way he said it just topped everything. And I don't understand why people are not up in arms. Oh, I do because women really are shitty lazy people People they only do something when the media is telling you to can I add to that? Yeah, why they didn't not up in arms. Nobody watches CNN By to him and said I have an infection mm-hmm And if you oh yeah, so she said I have an infection You don't want venereal disease rape right or do if you have intercourse with me Then you will probably get it and give it to your wife. No he said he was he made you perform oral sex right thought She was drugged

14:49 You know, there are ways not to perform oral sex if you want to do it. Oh... I was kind of stoned at the time and quite honestly that didn't even enter my mind Now i wish It would have Right Meaning the using of a teeth Yes that's what I'm thinking here Yeah I didn't even think of it I didn't think about biting his dick off at the time Thanks Don for the tip God, it's terrible. It's hard. It's horrific that he but listen to the ending so Yes I'm a journalist I had asked as a journalist. I had to ask why didn't you bite his dick off? Fire that man And I was cruising Facebook Janice Dickinson who is certifiably insane

15:41 and she's now come out, it doesn't matter if a woman says I was abused raped etc. You don't say this woman would do anything to get in the media! And this is women saying this how does-I don't understand at what point do women get to make this choice about who they vilify or not? Because if I had said that oh Austin would be too small. Well yeah, well it is too small now well anyway look onward Back to real news everybody I am loving the weather what really M is this chilly isn't it? It's just funny

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Global Warming Skepticism and Volcanic Cooling Claims

Analysis of recent climate reports suggests that volcanic eruptions are cooling the stratosphere, contradicting previous computer models. The hosts highlight a failed social media campaign by White House science advisor John P. Holdren, where users used the "Ask Dr. H" hashtag to challenge his past predictions of global cooling.

global warming· climate change· john p holdren· epa· volcanic eruptions

16:30 I don't even see people trying to explain it away as global warming or man-made global warming that is causing this climate change. Even if it's climate change, just cold! We just have a cold spell. It happens. NBC did a great job here. Global warming might be even worse were not for the impact of a rash of smaller volcanic eruptions around the globe so now These eruptions from the volcanoes are blasting more of an atmosphere cooling gas into the lower stratosphere than scientists previously thought. Oh, how come they couldn't predict it with their computer? Computer models! I know... It's so crazy Well we have something new that you this just came out which i guess is-I don't know if this is perfect timing or not let me read the uh the white house press release and so we had John P Holdren

17:24 This guy's an idiot. Did you see this Ask Dr H? We talked about it. Yeah, he did a social media campaign and he had a hat says John P Holdren who was the president's director of White House Office of Science and Technology Policy is the guy who in 71 said look watch out for global cooling. The same guy So they did an Ask Dr. H and we'll answer it in a future YouTube video You want to hear some of the questions that were asked? I'm all ears These guys will never learn, how stupid can you be to do this question Please comment on report from nature Oh that's not a funny one here We go why did you predict the new ice age in 1971 if there is a picture Of article of him predicting the new ice age in 1971

18:23 Ask Dr. H hashtag the EPA says heat waves were much worse in the 1930s Why are you claiming otherwise with it with a picture of EPA graph data? Yeah, yeah ask dr. Dr H What was the climate control knob during 70s ice age scare and why did it switch to co2 during AGW scare how does that even work? Asked Dr. H why did at NASA recently tamper with their own temperature data to make it appear to be warming faster with a picture all of this stuff asked dr. H Why is Antarctic sea ice extend at a record high in 2014 just all of you know? I don't know why these guys do this they really think that they can just cherry-pick the good ones This is like the patience of White House initiative or ability petition was legalized marijuana and

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

White House Climate Resilience Toolkit and Sea Level Mapping

The White House released the Climate Resilience Toolkit following a greenhouse gas agreement between President Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping. The hosts critique the "Climate Explorer" tool, which allows users to simulate sea-level rise, characterizing it as a fear-based propaganda tool designed to influence property values and population density.

barack obama· xi jinping· climate resilience toolkit· sea level rise· noaa

19:11 So now they came out with, I guess this is why they were doing this. A toolkit! That's right it has been a big week for United States efforts on climate change. I'm reading from the White House. On November 12th President Obama and Chinese president Xi Jinping announced historic actions to reduce greenhouse gas emissions Today we're announcing important steps that the administration is taking here at home to help communities respond to and prepare for a changing climate, everybody. Oh yes! Yes this is what we talked about in the last show as you recall but we didn't have the toolkit no the toolkits new The Climate Resilience Toolkit and I shall give you the URL of said tool kit toolkit dot climate dot gov

19:58 Now I want you to go to this website and then go to the climate explorer under the tools section. This is genius, and while you're going there i'll start telling them so that you have a map of the United States with it we get to launch the toolkit once you launch Climate Explorer. I'm now a climate explorer! Here's what I like...this line find out how people are building resilience because they're all gonna die If you launch the climate explorer, there's a map of the United States and you get to click these little boxes. And so I have a little box here inundation from sea level rise at three feet! You click the box and see how many coastal areas will be just flooded with water? And then coastal vulnerability to sea level rise... you click that box and it is red oh my goodness Houston is underwater now! You can zoom in and see if you're gonna be drowning

20:52 So they're showing you a map of how you're going to drown. You can click little boxes Yeah, Corpus Christi! Goodbye, Corpus... You're dead. You're dead, Corpus It's really unbelievable and I wish we could save this whole application Mmm, you know just well we have enough technical expertise and our listening audience that did We probably could save it if somebody actually went through the trouble to do so Well you have to get the data The you know their data style thing is just you can spider the whole thing this whole page Get all the day they get everything in need and you never had you did you launch the climate Explorer? I'm looking at it now. I don't click on inundation

21:36 Uh oh. And look at where you live, you're going to be dead man! No no I'm gonna have seafront property. Oh that's right you're on the hill. 500 feet. I'm sorry you're on the hill yes. Yes yes yes. So yeah... Let me take okay here's the two foot or I just did the one foot thing i didn't do the 2-foot let me try the 3-foot Yeah yeah look I'm dead now actually in Austin we will have beachfront property it'll just be 20 minutes to the coast It's going to be great. Sounds like a winner, the value of everything is going to go up and it's going to cost more to live there. I should buy now. Giant stressors! I should buy now while stocks last. Oh and you have to slip in the population density. Yeah isn't that great? Yeah, yeah slip that bull crap in there. That guys cool. Four feet five feet six feet okay inundation from sea level rise six feet

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Keystone XL Pipeline Vote and Barbara Boxer's Visual Aids

The Senate vote on the Keystone XL Pipeline is analyzed, focusing on Senator Barbara Boxer's use of a allegedly photoshopped image of a playground near a refinery. The hosts argue that the environmental concerns regarding the Port Arthur refinery are exaggerated and that the pipeline's impact on job creation is being misrepresented by both sides.

keystone xl pipeline· barbara boxer· nancy pelosi· port arthur· epa

22:32 How's that gonna work? And, you know, IBM has now sold two Watson supercomputers to NOAA so they can create even more complex and more accurate models. And then the Watson guy can say something... Oh yeah! You will all die! So we had an important vote in... This was very interesting to watch on C-SPAN I had to watch the recorded version because i think it was on the air. Not able to watch it live we had the vote of the XL, the Keystone XL Pipeline. Yeah, I watched entire thing too. I do have a couple of clips and of course the newsletter has a picture

23:18 showing, which I think was photoshopped a bogus picture of the small playground. Which somebody else by the way identified where the playground was there was a playground that did have a little bit of the background of the refinery and it did have everything but didn't have that tire hanging in there I had pictures of the whole thing. Just for people who have not subscribed to the newsletter, subscribe to the newsletter! Every show notes on the page there's a link you click that and subscribe to the newsletter this was a deconstruction in the newsletter And it was nice because it was a photo deconstruction. Just run through it again, John just so people understand what that is. Well Nancy Pelosi... in fact we have the clip here so let's play this clip but Nancy Pelosi was talking and she's the one who led the defeat of the XL pipeline. Pelosi or Boxer? I'm sorry there's a difference I keep forgetting. Yeah. Boxer! Boxer tried to fuck you and Pelosi didn't

24:13 Boxer you have to tell the story you can have to tell not me I never drove her It was everybody else. Just tell it briefly, people got to know... Tell the story again. Boxer and by the way this is what really got me about this presentation she made because she used to be on the board of the air pollution control district in the Bay Area. She knows better than to do what she did. She actually has some expertise in air pollution because she's been listening too. She knows pretty much from the early days when I think she was either a uh... as assemblywoman city councilor something from marine county and this is when you were working with her i was working with her and feinstein as a matter of fact both of them they're both on this board and that

24:57 And were you serving coffee or were you on the board? I wasn't doing anything. I was working in the field, doing what i'm supposed to be doing but if you're in and out of the office during one of these meetings Boxer — and this was very well known amongst the inspectors which I was one — Boxer would try to get a ride home from one of them and then put the move on him I love this story. And so all the guys would say, Oh my God, y'all don't be around because boxers there. I got to go now because I don't want me the last one shot out of the office and it always had to be some executive or one of the top guys or something. So do you know guys on bucks? Do you know guys who actually did her? I don't think about it.

25:46 Guys who were propositioned. I don't know any guys, but I don't know for a fact that anybody did or we didn't know what they did They should come out now and say there was sexually harassed by her this would be powerful That would be funny it would be definitely funny. It was sexual harassment There's no doubt about it so she comes down in the house of the Senate floor and she's trying to defeat this thing and as mentioned I do have a bunch of different clips that talk about the it's how ludicrous this whole thing is so it was really a symbolic saying and then we had why do you think it was symbolically this is just a piece of pipeline site white house and that you mark he wears name is from massachusetts marketing markets blame the whole thing on global warming is gonna make global warming works anywhere near responsible for but despite playing in because the global army yeah those who was a symbolic thing it was all about global warming and dirty

26:34 Dirty oil which is boxers things I have boxer. She comes out and I have the clip you can hear it And during this clip she brings out this photo, which is in the newsletter if you go to the newsletter You can see the photo showing a playground Within the background of obviously Photoshop mess of the refinery with four or five distinct black plumes coming out of one of them. I think it was coming out of a distillation tower, which makes no sense. It kind of looked like the Simpsons with the Sims joke and it was a fraud and it was bull crap! And there...I did do some research and found a picture of that refinery flaring which means usually when a refinery has a problem goes down all these everything they're shutting things down they have to

27:22 do something with the stuff in process. So they ship it to the flares and out it goes, out the flare and creates this big flame which may or may not smoke usually it does as they shut down whatever process... Now you are a scientist because I've worked into refineries so I know about the process You're Big Oil baby! I'm Big Oil. So flaring takes place but when there's flaring there is always a... Always a flame. And so if this was a photo of the flaring alone, that she is somehow jerry-rigged into this picture or somebody managed to catch it during an unlikely coincidence at the park...

28:02 There would have been flames, there's nothing. Just straight smoke and that is not going to happen under any circumstances ever at an oil refinery this is a lie and she as an air pollution person you know was on board in the air pollution district knows better And so she came out with this blatant lie, presented it to the Senate. Nobody calls her on it. Nobody says anything. Oh okay! This is so horrible and nobody wants to live around a refinery that's...and by the way I'll mention just in passing the Port Arthur Refinery down in Port Arthur Texas outside of Houston is one of the biggest in the world and is designed to take huge amounts

28:42 of crude oil from Saudi Arabia and every place else and refine it rather nicely. It's a very advanced operation." She keeps talking about, by the way in this little speech you're going to hear about that there is only going to be 50 jobs! And she is referring to the...there will be 50 more jobs at the refinery apparently if they bring the pipeline in To be honest about it, I don't know whether there'd even be one more job at the refinery. The refinery runs in capacity so why do they need more people? It's beyond me. Whatever the case here is Boxer... keep wanting to say Pelosi because i think they go to the same Botox person

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Barbara Boxer's Senate Floor Speech on Pollution

Senator Barbara Boxer's passionate opposition to the Keystone XL Pipeline includes claims that the "dirtiest oil" causes cancer and asthma in children. The hosts mock her rhetorical style and her frequent vilification of the Koch brothers as the primary drivers of environmental degradation.

barbara boxer· koch brothers· asthma· clean air act· senate

29:19 Really, John? That's unnecessary. I'm sorry it was so necessary because it ruins my whole argument. Yeah, it does and yeah doesn't it lessens me as a person yes It does so let's play this building a pipeline that is going to carry the dirtiest oil And This dirty oil Is already causing lots of problems where it is refined in Port Arthur Texas either I met with the people there. I met with the people there, you know senators don't live near refineries now again if i'm wrong on that I would like to be corrected People live near refineries sometimes it's where affordable housing is and this is what it looks like and they don't want this stuff

30:10 And all the talk, jobs jobs jobs. Let's be clear the CEO of the company said 50 jobs Hold on a second... hold on a second! She can't say that she says it she says only here is jobs jobs jobs well who said jobs jobs jobs? Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs That's her own party member Pelosi who said that. Yeah, well they're all saying it! So you want to lay this kind of misery on people who live in this community? Vote aye! It's fine but just take a look at this Just take a look at this You don't see many kids playing in this playground because this pollution is vicious Oh won't somebody please think

30:59 Please think of the children! It has more heavy metals. It causes asthma, the pollutants cause cancer We're talking about lead we're talking about sulfur in very very heavy quantities so let's be clear you don't see my friends who support this talking about what happens when you refine but that's what happens Wait a minute, but the pipeline's not a refinery. No but that's what happens when that oil gets to that refinery it's going to be just a pile of smoke and people are gonna die in the streets because they have no air pollution control and apparently the EPA which is so rough and tumble can't seem to do anything about it she is lying through her teeth she is a horrible woman

31:52 But then she has a little kicker in there. I think it was more to that clip no that was the end oh Okay, yeah Sorry well, it's okay get more okay good once you go No, yeah this one This is the this is the one does the one the long with Barbara boxer on clean air and water? And she dropped the bomb in there everyone has to use all right recession we've seen since the Great Depression and I put those statistics... These, the words who says this is the Great Depression. I'm so tired of that! I'm so tired of hearing that! Wait until 2017 what are you gonna say then? The worst depression since the great recession before the Great Depression?! Into the record now I gotta say this

32:40 In all the years I've been in public life, starting when I was a county official. Not one constituent ever came up to me and said Barbara The air is too clean. Oh God, my air is so clean! The water I drink is so pure. Please don't get in the way of making it dirty now office for a very long time. She's even cracking herself up now, she like I can't believe these people are listening to me! No one has ever said that on the contrary. Oh gee i love my government they're doing a great job. Do you ever hear that Barbara? They say to me is please my child has asthma please don't back off don't let big oil or Big Coal or the Koch brothers or whoever it is stand in the way of my family

33:38 The Koch brothers are killing my child and giving it asthma! Those Koch brothers. Those crappy Koch brothers. Unbelievable. Horrible men Horrible, horrible, horrible man. I got so at the end you have any more? I got the one other one that was these was the sidebar which we'll play later if if we need to buy it So then we had the vote and the funny thing about the vote is um The uh just missed by 1 right? I don't know yeah, I think it was 59 votes. I thought okay The miss madam president was uh Pocahontas

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

Elizabeth Warren and Native American Chanting Incident

During a Senate session presided over by Elizabeth Warren, Native American activists began a prayer chant in the gallery. The hosts, citing an analysis by "Dame Bang-bang," argue that Warren's confused reaction and call for order prove she lacks a genuine connection to Native American culture despite her past heritage claims.

elizabeth warren· dame bang-bang· native american· senate gallery· prayer

34:19 Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas was in the catbird seat and I and something happened Which was deconstructed by Dame bang-bang? Dame bang-bang as you know is the dame who? Rules over our night sir. D H slammer now Dame bang-bang is a Native American, and she a real one a real Native American not like Pocahontas There's Warren Elizabeth Warren Christine Warren, I don't want to a Diane or Diane Warren And so this, the votes, the nays have it and I'll let you hear what happens first. And then I'll read or narrate along with what Dame Bangbang said. The bill is not passed under the previous order. The Senate will proceed to executive session to consider the following nominations which the clerk will report. Nominations for judiciary Leslie Joyce Abrams of Georgia.

35:23 Sergeant at Arms will restore order. Now, this... So what happens is there's some Native Americans up in the gallery who start singing and this is actually chanting and this is a prayer as Dame Bangbang deconstructed but she said she looked at them because of the cameras on Pocahontas She has no idea what's going on! She doesn't recognize it as a prayer you can see it in her face like someone yelling at me What is that? Is a fire alarm going off and immediately calls for sergeant in arms. Restore order, order in the gallery. Ordering the gallery. It's kind of beautiful too. So Dame Bangbang wants us to know that by analyzing Elizabeth Pocahontas Warrens reaction she has no idea what that is further

36:22 Yeah, further proves that she's a big phony like Barbara Boxer. Yes! Yes that would be it. That would be it Yeah, they're all phonies. Well, I mean surprise surprise yeah, we'll have a clip but later you know Discussion of you know Pat Leahy tried to push through oh would you want to do it now because I got a couple? I got a couple Run down of the whole thing they tried to pass a bill this is a cyber Sharing bill they try to get this well This is the one where they tried to put them leash on the NSA the amendment where telcos would keep

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Saxby Chambliss and the Leahy Amendment Debate

Senator Saxby Chambliss argued against the Leahy Amendment, which sought to reform NSA metadata collection by requiring telecommunications companies to hold records instead of the government. Chambliss claimed that moving data to the private sector would increase the risk of privacy breaches by exposing information to thousands of telecom employees.

saxby chambliss· patrick leahy· nsa· metadata· privacy

36:59 the records instead of the government having the metadata. Well, it's also you had to for the NSA to look at anything they needed a warrant and then there was...there was a number of aspects. Well just to be true just to be true to the amendment because I read it They could ask for one within two weeks after if it was an emergency like a pending 9-11 attack or something. This was the Leahy bill we're talking about? Amendment, amendment, amendment. Is that right? Yes Let's play this clip because the thing that was interesting to me Was it was the Republicans who blocked this and there were some freedom and liberty folks opposed to Leahy I'll tell you what To set up...I have a clip to setup your clip

37:39 Okay, this is Saxby Chambliss Blowhard Chambliss. He's the one was against it he's yeah He's going to explain the Leahy amendment will that help or do you want to do? Yeah no as Chambliss a douchebag of the highest order I just want to say something You're doing the ya know a lot I'm doing yeah, no. Yeah. You know that's funny because this is the one thing i have never even tried to stop myself from doing. I do it myself. Because don't know what it sounds like and have to listen to a show. I am now trying to catch it I do it too. Well, say it with me a couple more times and I'll try to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Okay here's Saxby Chambliss who was against this thing now with respect to our privacy folks gosh we need to be really protective of privacy issues in this country We live under a constitution that has survived for an excess of 200 years

38:32 It has lots of privacy protections in it and all of us want to see that happen. Let me just tell you what's going to happen if this amendment comes to the floor and should happen to pass today, the metadata that is collected by the NSA can be accessed by 22 individuals. Twenty two. They should have done 33 would've been much cooler That means there's an opportunity for leaks to occur or for individual privacy rights to be breached by 22 people. If this amendment ever became law, all of a sudden all the telecoms are going to be holding this metadata information as opposed to the NSA holding it. Which by the way they have it already idiot! They create the metadata information but okay

39:22 All of those telecoms have thousands of employees, lots of whom will have access to this metadata. He should've said, Have you ever spoken with one of those employees on the help desk? Oh lordy me! Those people are going to have access to the metadata?! So instead of having the potential for 22 people to breach the privacy rights of American citizens all of a sudden you're going to have thousands of opportunities for the privacy rights of Americans to be breached. Okay, I think that's far enough is that enough information? So anyway go you can play the and this is sketchy and then the whole thing is moot because it's there's told

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Patrick Leahy and Gwen Ifill on NSA Reform

Senator Patrick Leahy discussed the failure of his NSA reform bill with PBS's Gwen Ifill, blaming a Republican filibuster led by Mitch McConnell. The hosts analyze the political theater surrounding the bill, suggesting that neither party is truly interested in dismantling the surveillance state before the Patriot Act expires.

patrick leahy· gwen ifill· mitch mcconnell· nsa· patriot act

40:01 They have to redo the Patriot Act anyway, and of course it's going to be worse. We know that this whole thing is a big scam but for some reason I didn't want this Leahy thing to go through and it was all because Mitch McConnell... And play the Leahy thing and then I wanted say what I think. Joining me now to discuss what comes next for NSA reform in Congress is Democratic Senator from Vermont Patrick Leahy. Leahy who is chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. You didn't tell me it was Gwen? Oh yeah. That's Gwen, our hagiographer Gwen Ifill. Yes yes Gwen. Gwen Iffill. The Sherry Committee co-sponsored the legislation that failed last night we reached out to several Republicans who opposed the bill who are not available to us tonight Senator part of the debate last night was whether your solution to this issue went too far or didn't go far enough where did it land? Well we got 58 votes out of 100 senators normally that'd be enough to pass a bill but

40:57 The Republican leader wanted it filibustered and wanted it blocked, did not want to have amendments. Did not want to go forward and he was able to keep most of the members of his caucus with him to do it I think that's a mistake we all know there is going to be changes in the NSA program We all know there is going changes in these intelligence programs. We had a good compromise, one the House of Representatives would have accepted. I urge them let's go forward with it and let's do it because next year everything expires anyway." I'd love to hear your analysis. I do think I have a second clip that

41:39 Before the vote came in, that might be interesting just to add to that. This is again Chambliss telling us what will happen if we don't do the right thing with this cyber stuff? There are any number of reasons why the substance of this bill is totally flawed. We live in a dangerous world today. We all know and understand that. Okay, well just... John, do you know and understand how dangerous the world is that we live in today? I'm shaking in my boots now. all the tools they need to make sure that... You have to understand that even though this wouldn't have prevented ISIL from farming, if ISIL will come and kill you if we don't put the tools in the right proper hands. When ISIL recruits individuals to go to Syria to fight, if it's Americans they're trying to recruit, we can find out about that. Listen carefully what he is saying. We somehow with metadata

42:48 We're going to find out if you're being recruited, which doesn't mean you are doing anything illegal. No one's done anything illegal at this point but this a-hole wants to make sure we find out if you are being recruited. And we have under surveillance today any number of individuals who we think have been committed to jihad who live in America. Secondly... John! Are you committed to Jihad? I never met the guy. There's another part of their recruiting that is even more dangerous than asking young men and women to come to Syria, to fight for ISIL. Oh my goodness! Could there be anything more dangerous and crazy? Let's listen to him...

43:28 They want people to go into the Parliament in Canada and start killing people. Well, they did a pretty good job on that one. We'll mark one for the killing of people in Parliament very good. They want people to walk the streets of New York and pull out a gun or hatchet or whatever it may be. Yeah we got that one good. That's already done what next? Start killing people. If we eliminate this program...and that is basically what the Leahy Amendment does then we're going to take a tool away from our intelligence committee that's not, community that's not gonna allow them to be able and interrupt and disrupt those types of terrorist attacks. So let me ask you a question. Let me ask the police...let me let me ask you the question. Let me ask you the question seeing as this tool has not been taken away and is in place

44:18 How then is it possible that these things actually happened? How did the guy with the hatchet do his thing if they're all over it. Thank you! The guy is full of shit! But no one says, uh excuse me senator How is it possible that our tools are now in place and not taken away yet by the Leahy Amendment, that these things actually happened? Yeah. Why wasn't he stopped? Well anyway so we got this shambles guy and I think Mitch McConnell both because this is a basic thesis of the show that we've agreed on

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

Adam Curry's Visit with Uncle Don Gregg

Adam Curry recounts a six-hour visit with his uncle, Donald Gregg, a former CIA official and Ambassador to South Korea. Gregg, who currently chairs the Pacific Century Institute, shared insights into his recent trips to North Korea and his perspective on international diplomacy.

don gregg· cia· south korea· north korea· pacific century institute

44:54 And what it reminds me of... The reason that they stopped it is because the NSA told them to stop it and the NSA has both of them under their control because of blackmail. This is a blackmail situation, this is a good example of it We need to transition Uncle Dom pretty quickly Okay Do you want to do it now? I think so Okay So you went to visit uncle... Is there anything we can do for him Yes, this is the Uncle Don tune. So you Adam Curry went to visit uncle Don? And Aunt Meg by my friend. Remember she was at the Russian desk for the CIA when they met. Right okay so there's a couple of your relatives essentially that are and they're retired and then you know on... Well not really

45:46 Uncle Don is the chairman of the Pacific Century Institute, formerly a chairman of The Korean Society, formally ambassador to South Korea. Formerly CIA OSS now to transition I asked and I had a six hour visit Nice six hours and he had a little bit 86 both of them are the 86 years old And we take this the scars Dale Express from Grand Central Station up to North White Plains Aunt Meg's 86 in the rain inner Hyundai picks us out. Oh

46:28 And I would you know she she's a lead foot man. Yeah, right like an 86 year old woman driving like a man I'm like I'm like aqua plane aqua planing is real and she's a bad. She's chatting away Okay, but yeah, but now Meg is pretty awesome interesting they drive a Hyundai Hyundai. Oh they've always driven Asian cars But yes, Hyundai of course. Yeah Korean. And you need to know that Uncle Don has been to North Korea six times in the past year alone on behalf of PCI So I talked about so much and actually sent you an email saying we do need to kind of interview me because I wrote as much down as I could remember. I didn't want to be taking notes look like a douchebag No, you looked like a douche bag! Right? But it's just family members having a conversation. Is the day clear for you to talk? Just so you know

47:19 Uncle Don, he's a career spook and he would never tell me anything if he didn't think it was possible that I would tell someone else to put it on the air. But he feels comfortable enough this time, to tell me a lot! So you know what? This guy is smart as a whip. Don't worry nothing he told me... He won't even tell me about other family members. I mean the guy knows what not to say. Who else in the family's a spy?! Or what they did no but who he knows who's a spy but you know what they did he won't tell okay

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

CIA vs NSA Rivalry and Edward Snowden

Donald Gregg reportedly confirmed the long-standing rivalry between the CIA and NSA, criticizing the NSA's "collect everything" culture. Gregg expressed empathy for Edward Snowden, drawing parallels to his own past experiences where breaking rules was necessary to save lives and prevent nuclear escalation.

nsa· cia· edward snowden· blackmail· don gregg

47:54 So, the reason why I bring this up is because I was talking about Snowden and I slipped in there the animosity between CIA and the NSA. Ah! One of our theses? Yes. And he says well... By the way this note you supposedly sent me is not here or there's nothing new when my inbox No but you replied to it You said yeah Oh yeah okay Hello I thought you had like a huge list. No, no, no... You're just gonna ask these things? Okay go on! And it may be three weeks from now or remember something else. Six hours is a lot. This is material for the show and we have to assume since he is a trained expert he knows exact- and they know about the show because your aunt listens to this show. Well not only that but he sends me his own interviews to clip on the show

48:43 Yeah, so this was meant to be aired and we're exclusive with it. Okay? We are totally exclusive with this. Of course. Right now Uncle Don started at the CIA as a in crypto he was a cryptographer So he said to me that I never wanted to be...I never went to NSA Never wanted to be NSA because of their culture Their culture is, oh we're in here let's just take everything you never know what's good for later. Thereby implying exactly what our thesis is the NSA takes all this stuff and I said like blackmail? And he nods his head oh yeah

49:26 Blackmail? He said he nodded his head. Yes, sir! Okay... You don't have to call me sir I'm not really a... I mean, I'm enlisted. And he also said, he says, I have empathy for Snowden which is not the CIA line i might point out No, it's not. Not publicly. It may be the CIA internal line Internal line Which here you go there's kind of proof as he's saying But it's interesting if you read his book, which I don't think you've read it yet. I've looked at it Yes, do you like the cover? No, I thought it was improved packaging and everything. I agree

50:05 He says, I have empathy for Snowden because in his book he explains how Don went against orders broke the rule violated orders which wound up saving the future president of Korea's life who then eliminated all the nukes and put them under control. And you have to read the story about how he did that, but he could have gone to jail for a long time for what he did but he broke those rules and it turned out he actually saved a lot of lives and became kind of a hero for it. This is what a lot of his speeches are...is about breaking the rules when you feel that it's something you need to do. He says therefore he has empathy for Snowden

50:49 I thought that'd be very interesting. Also fits right in with our thesis And he also says that's probably one of the reasons that there are people who hate Russia and Putin is because Snowden is there. There are other theses! I'm telling you, this whole conversation John was...there were some mind-boggling things like he doesn't know who Cass Sunstein is, he doesn't know Samantha Powers. He knows obviously when to say it, but he doesn't know anything about it But everything was so spot on in our thinking, it was just mind boggling. Yeah! So I now do you want me to stop here and come back later? Doesn't surprise me in the least Do you want me to... where would you like me to go with this because there's so much well first of all the questions you had questions I wrote them down and I said I have questions from John

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

North Korea's Tourism Ambitions and Kim Jong Un

Donald Gregg describes North Korea's leadership as "deadly serious" about developing the country into a tourist destination. He characterizes Kim Jong Un as a leader firmly in control and notes that North Korean officials have expressed a willingness to negotiate on nuclear armaments, provided the U.S. engages in good faith.

north korea· kim jong un· pci· tourism· state department

51:42 Okay, what was one of them? What did you ask him? Okay. So I asked him first about Pacific Century Institute. I said what exactly is this? I presume this is a group representing business interests who want to do business in North Korea He said yeah absolutely even though if you look at their Their website doesn't exactly say it in those words Relations between North Korea okay One of the questions I want to ask earlier than later is the vacation. Yes, that was the question how I wrote it down How serious is North Korea about creating a tourist destination? answer Deadly serious absolutely number one on the list there you have

52:28 We're great! We really are fantastic. No wonder people like this show. Yeah, so then we got into this whole thing about you know the about the guy who was there and how he got it Don is absolutely... The basketball guy So the um the basketball no not that uh we didn't talk about with the Todd Miller guy I wrote it down as I think I wrote down the words I thought he said That was a stupid troublemaker kid. And I said, I think it was a spook he said now he's a spook wannabe He was there It was trying to do something and just kept on that's the kid who tore up his visa Yeah Oh yeah no he you know looking at it if that's not what a spook would do to get now right so but I think yeah, it's got to be just some Right. He says stupid trouble maker kid was exact words What a stupid kid

53:20 He said a spook wannabe, and I think in hindsight might have been someone working for Vice or something like that. Someone trying to get some ink on something. This guy may come out with... Yeah we'll find out eventually. So they decided to teach him a lesson so they just threw him in the slammer for awhile? Yeah, and neither of these guys were in the big work camp gulags. No, of course not at all If they let him go they'd have to report on it They don't want that now the basketball connection John didn't really pick up on that Okay, well that may just be our yes But sometimes you know when he goes silent before for example a couple times I saw so what you're so what your I'm gonna Preface what you're gonna say

54:08 What you're going to say is that occasionally, you'd ask a certain kind of question that he doesn't have the right... He knows that he can't answer the question. Yes. Especially since we've already answered the questions when we did our deconstruction and we have it right but he's not gonna confirm it for some reason because it's underway. It's an operation on... Could be an op on the road correct? Yeah. Okay. Where was I? So he you're saying he see who would ask a question. You were going to cite a question that he would go silent on, right? And so the basketball thing maybe doesn't care and it's also possible but he is a big fan of Kim Jong Un

54:54 And he says, this kid is really in control. He doesn't even say kid, he says man. You know? This man is in control a lot of people are very hopeful about what it can do for North Korea and then we kind of went through the what happened and we went back in history a bit Do you remember the leap day agreement because Don has been in a lot of these meetings By the way, he finally got a call from the State Department. I think he's there today Now all of a sudden someone might want to talk to him about helping out with something But that is probably related to Moscow which we'll get too later so They were in a room where the senior and senior officials in North Korea A couple more women by the way Which you'd never really hear about you think that they know women are just to plow in the field or anything And they said point-blank and this came on the heels of me saying

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Technical Outage and Producer Appreciation

The show experiences a brief technical interruption due to a data center outage. Upon returning, the hosts thank their artists and producers, specifically praising John Fletcher for his high-quality audio production on the "Black Pete" and "Bill O'Reilly" jingles.

no agenda stream· martin jj· nick durat· john fletcher· black pete

55:44 Is John Kerry a moron? I think I asked it like that. And his initial answer was, well the more you know the guy the less I like him. Yeah that's a common theme. Common comment. So they were in the room...this is 2012 i think? I think its 2012 and uh the senior North Korean official said we are willing to give up all our nuclear armaments everything we're good to go and Kerry walked in to the meeting. Do you want me to finish up a little bit? We'll continue after our break, just do a few more... I don't wanna do uh no we're gonna take a break and then we'll go right back into it i've got the notes where we left off well then let me say this thank you for your courage and In The Morning To You John C stands for Carbon Pollution Dvorak! And In The Morning To You Adam Curry, In The Morning To All Ships At Sea Boots On The Ground Feet In The Air Subs In The Water And All The Dames & Knights Out There

56:45 and in the morning to the chat room who were online during this thing that broke down just letting them know we were talking about North Korea, Uncle Don, the CIA. And then my stuff here blew up. The data center went down like Okay, this is we're getting to a very unique point And you have noted what I was saying so we'll get back to that in I know exactly what no agenda stream calm and thank You void zero for being all over this and working on whatever and we are reconnected. Hopefully it'll last for a little bit also Thank you to our artists Martin JJ brought us the artwork Martin JJ back in the in the fold

57:25 And I believe Nick Durat did the art for the newsletter. Yes, yes, yes, yes. NoahGenRGenerator.com we really do love those two guys are hard to beat those guys Alright, so let's thank you do a few people to thank for help by the way are probably going to be targeted as well They won't be target nobody's targeted. Oh Easy for you to say people someday maybe you may be targeted but all I know is uh nobody else That's just a quiz okay. Just a quick. It's just a coincidence nothing. Nothing goes it's just a coincidence We have a few people who think that's Koch brothers

58:01 Do we have to thank them? Say Koch Brothers. Koch Brothers! That's usually what brings it down, right and where is the- Where is that- What's the new one we got? We have two actually oh yeah I did want to hear them both okay here well the first one we have is Black Pete And the second one is actually one for you Bill O'Reilly Black Pete. It's good until December 5th. Yeah, this is gonna be a... Who is that again? What is our...? Josh? Our producer does those. Hold on. Fletcher! John Fletcher. He has the app- you know defined it I have to say this for Fletcher I knew his name

58:49 doing that, that Hogan thing which is what it's a takeoff of for anyone who wants to... We don't even have a Hogan version. No we don't have the one. We don't even have a Hogan. Anyway that-to do that with crack and flair and the style is very, very difficult. I don't think we could find anyone else that can do as good a job. That's astonishing! And people try they'll send me their versions but it's partially...it's also the recording technique? It's the way...? Yeah he's doing everything right Everything it's everything and then you know what he'll say oh you know I was on my way home and uh you know like three in the morning but I just whipped this one up for ya BLACK BEET!!!

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Ladyfingers

Thomas Butterick is knighted as "Sir Ladyfingers of the Displaced Texans" following a significant donation. The segment includes a discussion about stainless steel Sharpie pens and a custom "Blitzkrieg" jingle requested for the new knight's brother and friend.

thomas butterick· knighthood· texas· sharpie· blitzkrieg

59:30 Yeah, and it's understandable. And it's screaming. It's very good outstanding So we have a number of people to thank for show 671 starting with Thomas butter Rick in Dayton Ohio who is Came in at nine hundred thirty dollars and 31 cents to close out his night Oh for his knighthood beautiful, and I think he's on there right do let me make sure I believe so I just want To make sure we have a name if you had one I wanted, and he sent a note in. And a lot of it is private. Let me tell you... No! He is not on the list. Well he should be. Yeah, I'm putting him on there.

1:00:11 the one year mark of listening. You've profoundly changed my media consumption habits for the better, keep it up gents. Enclosed amount should round off my night." What if Derek didn't get this so he doesn't know? Would like my title to be... I mean you got a pen? Hold on let me grab it not quite sure what this means but it's amusing Energel liquid gel ink. Yeah, zero seven seven Seven ten by the way I had but I wanted to mention this at the top of the show I bought a prestige pen and I think anyone would be send me the link 70 link We'll put it in the show. Let's tell you what it is It's a stainless steel sharpie Oh yes, Mickey has this this is she's got one She is a Sharpie Queen. She loves the Sharpies. She's got them all oh

1:01:05 She has a stainless steel one. Yes, she does that's the one it's like the red stapler Well you're not saying it right then red stapler yeah So it's a stainless steel oh come on Amazon stainless to a sharpie okay? Here's his title ready uh yes ready sir lady fingers of the displaced Texans Sir Lady Fingers of The Displaced Texans. In honor of my birthday donation from my brother Samuel and college buddy Andrew Smallman, jingle request! Hold on hold on I gotta put this in the birthdays it's not in there either Birthday is for his brother... Samuel and his college buddy Andrew... sure I got this yeah small man small man S-M-A-L-L-M-E-N small man okay

1:02:01 Jingle request. Jingle requests, jingles! What do we got? Deutschland Blitzkrieg Oh my goodness okay Which is the marching thing I believe if i'm not mistaken No that's... no that's different Okay well I don't know what this is then I know what blitzkrieg is just let me find it Is it... I think it was Deutschland Blitzkrieg Deutschland, Blitzkrieg, Deutschland. Yeah let me just find it... Okay uh... Tudor head... Hold on hold on hold on... Deutsch... And by the way I'm gonna read this because it's not going to change anything. Tudor the head first for Andrew Samuel and all of the Deutsche bags of Germany! I'm trying to find a... The Deutschland thing? Maybe I did that live?! Uh thats possible. I think I just did it yeah oh yeah thats what is is. Thats what he says here, he says Live Read

1:03:00 I gotta do a live read now. It says jingle records. I didn't read that versus live. Alright, alright. Blitchcreek followed by tooter the head and her head is gone and then you're done he doesn't ask for karma. I'll add that in though. I'll add that in for him okay. Oh that's not it no I don't think so crap I had marching. I can get the marching going with my- Yeah, you do the marching sound yeah. Where did we find it? Yeah. Yeah sheez what did i do with this see see how prepared You are not that easy is it? I got it. Yep faster. Deutschland Blitzkrieg! Deutschland Blitzkrieg! Deutschland Blitzkrieg! Your head is gone. You've got karma. I'm sorry but that was

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Knighting of Sir Kristan and Dame Lauren Smith

Kristan Smith of Lincolnshire is knighted, and his 13-year-old daughter Lauren's Damehood is acknowledged. The hosts discuss Lauren's school essay on "moral self-licensing," a concept previously analyzed on the show, and play a requested jingle featuring Hillary Clinton.

kristan smith· lincolnshire· hillary clinton· moral self-licensing· knighthood

1:03:53 A real effort. We really did well on that one, yeah looking forward to the knighting ceremony Thomas. Kristen Smith 671 Blighton in Lincolnshire UK and he says I do believe this makes me sir Kristan of Lincolnshire mm-hmm In the Gitmo Nations East I have been listening to the show since John put me on to it following a twit appearance. I've managed to hit my father in the mouth although, I believe he was...I believe it was HE although what? Although I believe it was He although never hearing the best podcast in the universe had always been The Propagator Oh

1:04:33 No, so he was a listener all along and somehow he's got it confused However I don't think he put his points across in an entertaining way as you two do Please continue your work to enable us the slaves that eat our mac and cheese in peace. I did not have much to ask Karma for my last donation has worked wonders It did come up with this little jingle breakdown and he wants the following Hillary Clinton little girl Don't Eat Me Hilary and Feinstein and karma The only thing I didn't have is don't eat me. Don't eat me. I believe came in 671. Okay, let's see if we can try this. It's almost too delicious to believe my friend and her head is gone You've got karma

1:05:23 We do our best. Now that was interesting because what it indicated, that the little girl saying don't eat me Hillary was eaten! Yes but her head is gone. Her head is gone we understood the gag yeah Kristen Smith in uh... To be knighted today oh we have another one you get to two in Oh that's right oh 140 to round it off I guess hopefully you find this week's producer list higher than last few I and this is when he was put in his daughter's name. This not as part of his knighthood Lauren Smith that's always let's see so he said 201 40 is another donation now she's Well, this is daughter's name that was there as listening to show six six seven and she put a birthday shout out to me on that episode. That's true It made me very emotional and proud hearing that she gave a donation to the best podcast universe Bearing in mind that she doesn't have much pocket money and realizing I value the difference you make To my life with your expert analysis of the bull crap that's fed us on a daily basis I'm a devoted listener but i'm an old man being 30 years older than this show

1:06:26 She's only 37, but okay. She is the next generation she's 13 the donation is a continuance of her Damehood which I hope we will be able to complete before she flies the nest for indebtedness to Her Majesty and Mr Cameron as she seeks further education through college. essay was on moral self-licensing, which we discussed a bit. It was solely conceived on the basis of Adams' analysis I hope she will let you know what her school saw fit to give her as a mark for the work she did on the matter." Oh that doesn't sound good! It could...I think you can get away with it if you do it right Please keep up your good work and see my normal donation for input into this show. I don't need to read the rest on the show and you're good to go Well thats nice

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Associate Executive Producer Credits and Stockholm Meetup

The hosts recognize several Associate Executive Producers, including Mike Nikolaychuk, who works in the uranium industry. A listener in Stockholm, Sweden, announces plans for a local No Agenda meetup, prompting the hosts to reminisce about their travels to Scandinavia.

patrick hamilton· mike nikolaychuk· uranium industry· stockholm· meetup

1:07:11 I hope she did well. Hope she got a good mark, I'd love to read the essay! Actually, it would be interesting. We should... Anyway that kid was 201. He combined them on the spreadsheet peculiarly so we go right up to Don DeTomaso de Toronto. Always on board he's 34567. I wish i could donate more karma please and none for the boners this time. Alright karma for you my friend and deserve thank you very much. You've got karma Patrick Hamilton, 34567, a double in Atlanta Georgia. ITM Jentzos hit in the mouth this summer and figured it was time to move from boner to donor if you would be kind enough to provide a good de-douching I know one is needed I'd also like to request a double shot of fuck cancer followed by fuck cancer in memory of my friend Steph that recently passed from rapidly progressing cancer

1:08:07 Thank you for your courage and please continue the excellent work. Cheers! All right, absolutely. You've been D-douched. You've got karma. It actually kind of works a double shot that way I like the explosion at the end Mike and Nikolai Chuck In Saskatoon, the Paris of Canada up there $200. He'll be associate executive producer loving the show lately though hating my government fuck Harper Anyway this payment hereby concludes my second knighthood I've been listening for four years now and it wouldn't mean he's a baronet And i'm happy to contribute to something that gives me weekly entertainment feeds in my cynical side

1:08:57 My last donation was for a job, Carmen. Guess what? It totally worked! I got the specific job I was asking for at an ideal time. Now my life is miserable as I am a project manager for industrial construction in the uranium industry. Thanks a lot! Keep your stick on the ice, little S.K. Does he need some karma? Uh, yeah. It doesn't sound like he enjoyed it that much. Well give him some more of it. There you go. You've got karma! Be careful what you wish for... And finally Stephanie Barlow in Vancouver Washington $200. A couple Canadians coming and thats great This is a donation from Tyler Faye of Vancouver actually not Stephanie Please call out Ted as the douchebag

1:09:46 And he wants it announced during the December 7th show or during the week prior to that. Well, close enough We'll try to do that You might want to send us a reminder you might want to send as a reminder and Ted will get a double douchebag That'll conclude by the way our executive producers associate executive producers for show 671 when I thank people in reminder we do have a show coming up on the few short days from now on Sunday Which means we probably won't get this many participants But go to Dvorak.org and find something there you like. He says I'm starting to put together a meetup in Stockholm, Sweden. Before I do... ...I want to make sure that you haven't heard about anyone else doing the same thing in the near future This town is not big enough for two meetups! It's not big enough for one If not, I'll go ahead and make the arrangements keep you posted on the progress Would also be awesome if you could promote it on the show of course of course we'll promote it But have he showed up? I love Stockholm

1:10:47 I've been once but only in overnight. So don't really remember it, you know, I spent a few days there It's really dynamite place you get lost did you go to that nightclub? That's in like an old church No That's the limelight in New York Wow. Hey good one John Yes, I have been to that as well back in the day Well Thank You all very much And of course these executive producer and associate executive producer credits are real credits Which means you can use them wherever credits are recognized and accepted on your LinkedIn who apparently sell this information to all kinds of companies. They sell your information of your profile, that may be why it works for some people. You know when someone's buying information like hey look at this guy he's a producer maybe we should talk to him

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

North Korean Nuclear Negotiations and James Clapper

The discussion returns to Donald Gregg's insights on the failed 2012 "Leap Day Agreement" with North Korea, which Gregg blames on John Kerry's diplomatic approach. The hosts argue that the U.S. military-industrial complex benefits from maintaining North Korea as a perpetual threat to justify arms sales to South Korea.

john kerry· james clapper· north korea· leap day agreement· military industrial complex

1:11:35 And even though it's very similar to Hollywood, where people who support the production financially receive these producer credits. We unlike those phonies will actually back it up and we'll vouch for you if necessary For our Sunday show please remember to help us out at devolverac.org slash N A And obviously we always need you to be out there doing what you can to propagate the formula Our formula is this...we go out, we hit people in the mouth Hey, citizen. All right... Back to my six hours with Uncle Don. Okay here we go now what happened when we left off were so rudely interrupted which also somehow our IPv4 and 6 routes were deleted from the server somehow okay yeah these things happen

1:12:39 There was a meeting, Don was in place at the meeting. At the meeting the North Koreans clearly said we'll give up all of our nukes, the whole nine yards if you know... We get to finally do a peace agreement or I don't know what they want. It was the leap agreement. The leap? Okay and they wanted to get this all over with because they were being vilified and then Kerry walks in- And messes it up just by who he is, just by his personality And then the whole thing fell apart where the Koreans launched the satellite that was classified as a ballistic missile launch. It was a commemorative satellite, you know like a challenge coin I guess in space. North Koreans? Yeah yeah and so... Challenge coin in the sky! A challenge coin in space but the implication is that Kerry just really messed that up

1:13:34 I asked about Clapper. John Maxwell Well, let's go back to this. We're gonna talk a little more about the Kerry thing because we have to remember our thesis on this show, Deconstructed is that it's not in American interest to have a peace agreement with North Korea. You wanna keep them as the bad guys so we can sell armaments... Ed Milewski And I ask that specific question because our, and it's actually the ops. We, cause he corrected me op con the United States will no longer be providing excuse me, op-con for the South Korean defense which means operational control and then, and the South Koreans don't want us to leave the op-con according to Don

1:14:19 They don't want us to leave. No, I think it's because of all the money we spend there possibly and i said well it seems to me that you know what's happening is then we're now selling a billion dollars here a billion dollars there he says absolutely the military industrial complex this is Don saying this This is gone. Absolutely, he said. So far all you've done is confirm everything we've deconstructed from coal cloth and surmised and all we're getting now is just one confirmation after another proving that were on the right track with our thinking yeah I said so Clapper gets sent over Clapper right but to me seems like a dumbo

1:15:03 And Don says, you know it's hard. You know this guy is really impossible to do his job but what he's upset about the whole idea behind Kim Jong-un letting these guys go which was suggested by Don to the United Nations ambassador to South Korea who then made this happen, and then called Don back and said I took your advice. And here's what here's the result. So it is indirectly at least his responsibility to this happened in the whole point was to have

1:15:43 the world say, oh all right. You know these guys want to change things they want to you know have look better on the human rights record but the way it was constructed with Clapper in the mix is Clapper brought a letter from President Obama and that's how it all happened They're trying to make Obama the hero which is exactly the opposite of what whatever what the gesture was intended to portray Which is hey we really do wanna work with you guys So, and Clapper was just the messenger boy. But Clapper is saying the right things like yeah I'd go back and so Don was kind of happy about that then he went into this by the way he says what hypocrites we are about the gulags in prisons! We tortured some folks! He hates that. He hates that Obama said that. We tortured some folks

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

CIA Anecdotes and the Kagan Family

Donald Gregg shares humorous anecdotes about his time in the CIA, including a reference to the Iran-Contra affair during a conversation about Panama. He expresses strong personal distaste for National Security Advisor Susan Rice and the influential Kagan family, including Victoria Nuland.

don gregg· iran-contra· panama· susan rice· victoria nuland

1:16:35 He's so pissed off because the CIA did this and he's very angry. It's a CIA guy I think there's this code, you know You don't do the drugs you're selling if you can drink and womanize but you don't torture people By the way funniest line of the night when here the funniest line So we took him out to dinner. It was great restaurant is kind of this is like Westchester. Yes This is where hedge fund guys live? Yeah, it says good restaurants in that great restaurant The barn something other you can look it up And Mickey starts telling us, telling the story we're going to go to Panama and this is where it gets funny. Now I just want to make sure you understand that Mickey is not American so she doesn't all know all the backstories of American history and intelligence operations etc but then she says oh you know anybody in Panama?

1:17:26 And Don just cracks up. I said, and I'm like yeah he might know us a bit. He said uh...I don't think he's actually been to Panama. Maybe you could open some doors for us? And Don says yes some prison doors! It was very of course for those who don't know Panama Nicaragua kind of close together there was this little thing that happened called the I don't what it was called Iran Contra. That would be it, yes So it was so funny how she brought that up and Don just cracked up he thought it was the funniest thing She was going what? Well I didn't want to get too deep into it but I told her later on man It was funny, it was okay Okay Don was also asking me a lot of things which were very interesting He really wanted my opinion So we said what do you think of Hegel

1:18:17 And I said, well he's a right guy because he was wounded and Don said yeah like three times. But Don all I hear him talk about is sequestration in the budget and Don's like yeah man that's all these guys think about is how much more money can we get to them? Then you know...and I was kind of laying my smack on him here Then he starts going to I don't I don't yeah kind of my you're laying your smack on the Noah Jindal smack Okay, and then so I'm doing this. Oh, I don't like him and then it says you know who I don't like Susan Rice I Don't like that woman nice Yeah, well she's a liar He nods his head now throughout the evening throughout the afternoon in evening But I've been mentioning the Kagan's and he's not responding So at this point I say

1:19:08 Hey Don, I've mentioned the name a couple times but you know you haven't said anything about the Kagan's. That's because i don't like them any of them all those Kagans...I don't like him." And then I said, You know Victoria Newland? She's married to Frederick and he says yeah I get who was the Victoria Newland again? I said uh Assistant Secretary of State she was the one handing out cookies in Ukraine He goes oh 86 you know he can't follow everything no, he can't fall or anything. He's not his job too right so then we slip into I would imagine just go So then we slip into Putin and Russia

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Russia-North Korea Relations and NATO Expansion

Vladimir Putin's decision to cancel North Korean debt is seen as a strategic move to increase Russian influence in the region. Donald Gregg suggests a potential diplomatic "powwow" in Helsinki and criticizes the "reckless" expansion of NATO as a primary driver of modern tensions with Russia.

vladimir putin· nato· helsinki· pci· cold war

1:19:51 And, lo and behold because of the North Korea-Russia-Moscow connection which really started with Putin cancelling the $6 billion worth of debt. You may recall this happened maybe a year ago, I think. I don't remember it Yeah he cancelled six billion dollars worth of debt and is using the remaining one billion of debt to build stuff in North Korea Oh okay And here's the kicker Don has now been asked Well no let me rephrase He hasn't necessarily been asked but it appears that he will be A wheel in the machine Of

1:20:34 working with Moscow, the United States and North Korea. He may go to Moscow very soon but you know he'll let me know and I think what is going to happen...the way I understood it there's going to be a big powwow in Helsinki because that's kind of the perfect place for North Koreans and Russians and even the US and EU all come together and start to work on stuff And this is where I could, I kind of said, you know, Hey man. This is so obvious what's going on here with resources and he's actually at this point he's looking a little sad maybe he's sad because I figured it out and I'm able to put it in one paragraph, you know? And I say, Hey, you know, it's obvious why Syria is being rubble eyes then all this stuff back and forth and it's all be able to push Putin back.

1:21:29 I will say, the expansion of NATO," he says was reckless and we really were stupid the way we put that together. And then I said well do you really think that Putin is this out-of-control crazy guy? The revisionist Russia who wants to... He says no, but there is patriotism in Russia and they really do want to be a big world power again and they do feel threatened And he says, like he said about North Korea... It's like they should. Yes! NATO is moving in on them and this is a history of Napoleon going into Russia for some reason? Hitler going into Russia for some reason? Anyway you know basics. Exactly. So it appears to me that PCI the Pacific Century Institute is now also going to focus on Russia

1:22:23 And there's a new ambassador and Don feels pretty positive that he says, well what I don't want is...I do not want another Cold War. He said it was so senseless and he has big respect for the Russians you know? I think even said that he had written an op-ed or some bits in the book where he said in hindsight I would have reworded what I said about Putin and about Russia So he's backpedaling a little bit I think he was saying the book you read it. He about pretty much the party line almost about, you know Putin encroaching on your crossing borders and what everyone else is saying and he felt a little sorry about that. Chiners Don's very encouraged by Obama reaching out to Jinping

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

ISIS Beheadings and Video Trickery Claims

The hosts and Donald Gregg discuss the rise of ISIS, with the hosts asserting that high-profile beheading videos are "video trickery" used for marketing and political leverage. Gregg suggests that the U.S. should focus on targeted drone strikes rather than broad military intervention.

isis· barack obama· beheadings· turkey· propaganda

1:23:22 And, and he's and I know this climate deal is that was all baked in prep before the even put his foot on Air Force One. That was just window dressing the complete bullcrap not means nothing all agreed to Hey, here's what we're gonna do going to announce when we're there while we talk about whatever we're really talking about Found that interesting. Yeah, that makes sense the whole thing because it was a scam of an announcement 13 2030 We started doing stuff yeah The whole thing was but everyone's all you know the Bill Maher's of they were all happy exactly and then and then You know I said we're talking about Syria the pipelines And he says well what do you think about Isis? Yes look you yes? Huh I looked at my son you're kidding right oh

1:24:12 You don't really think that's real, do you? And this is where he comes out. I think the president should be using... This is the CIA guy. I think we should do targeted. We got the drones. We can take them out." I said, Don, hold on a second. This is going to sound very strange but these beheadings were fake! And he looks at me and says, Don I know you didn't look at them. Of course there are beheadings that go on all the time. There are beheadings in Saudi Arabia 30-40 a month and those are real. But these beheadings that were

1:24:50 touted by the president and the State Department and everyone else, were fake. They're video trickery they're just not real." And this is one big marketing ploy to do what we always do rubble eyes...and Don actually said maybe Obama should let it all go? Just a little bit. I said yes! Fine! Everyone would go what?! And then we talked about Turkey a little bit and how they were trying to be drawn in. And he agrees that Turkey is, you know all eyes on Turkey and now he's getting a little tired and maybe I mean have more notes and stuff the big thing of anything to ask well here's the big thing I said I need an intro to Bobby Inman right asked for it just give me an address to send a handwritten note

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Donald Gregg's Speaking Tour and Bobby Inman

Donald Gregg expresses interest in a speaking engagement at the University of Texas at Austin to promote his book, "Potshards." The hosts discuss his relationship with Admiral Bobby Inman and the difficulty Gregg faces in getting mainstream media coverage due to his non-interventionist views.

don gregg· bobby inman· university of texas· political science· charlie rose

1:25:52 Okay, well I'm sure I can find that. But Inman's address? Yeah! We already googled around his house in the Google car. So Don is happy to send out... A lot of black SUVs parked around his house. This is how it works when you're being introduced from one officer to another It's not a phone call. It's a handwritten note on his stationary. Ah, that makes sense! But he topped me he says I'll tell you what uh i do speaking engagements around you know where around the world all i ask for is travel and lodging i don't take a fee i'm not interested in being paid get me a speaking engagement in Austin and i will come and i will invite everybody i know in the area to come

1:26:44 I'll be down there. Yeah, the hell you will! Absolutely so if anyone who's listening... You finally can be down there? We need someone from UT it should be University of Texas would love to hear from this guy Which department should we have because his main thing is Political science would be the easiest So i'd go with political science Right And they'd be glad to say...I think that's the best department to go for because that makes nothing but sense. The business school would probably be interested too, but political science would really draw a big crowd. I think he could pack them in. If I was a political science student at UT, I would go to this. I know the people from all over the world will come and see him by the way

1:27:30 They're very happy with the no agenda audience. It's very hard to sell a book when you're not endorsed by the agency, he can't get on... He'd love to be on Charlie Rose and I think Charlie Rose would have him on. But everybody else is shunning him because he has the wrong message. He does not have the, oh scary scary... They're all gonna die! Yeah they're all gonna die. He has the wrong message and he realizes it and he hates Fareed Zakaria now like yeah that guy's a douche. He didn't say that but that was my translated version So we need to figure out how to get him something here at UT

1:28:07 And he will gladly come and anything is it loves that people come up to my book signings and readings. And say, oh no I heard about on the No Agenda show He loves that now put a link in there. That's true He sees the surge, we talk about it and then all of a sudden you know. But he's not going to get rich off of this." It was kind of interesting. People say I should get on social media and I said screw it Don. You're on social media. We do that for you. You don't need to waste the time but also said don't feel like you need to judge your success by sales numbers that left in the 90s

1:28:44 You know, judge it on people who say, Hey man you changed my life. And he's like that really makes me happy I don't have to be on social media. Don't worry. Yeah don't worry so if you got any if you want an email Don something send it to me I'll forwarded to him and I put a link in the show notes to his book pot shards you can get it on hardcover paperback and we probably have some people with good connections at UT let try to do it like a Monday night speech or something, I don't know how you... Or I'm trying to fit in a trip to Austin which is an easy trip for me. I just go drive to Santa's and we'll be in Austin. So it's not a big deal but still inconvenient but I don't like it to be on a show night. Whatever! Even if it is a show night? Anyway so there will be more as we go along that will pop up

1:29:44 that I will... Yeah, it'll pop up in your head. Okay! But that's kind of my report and I thought it was a... And I really wish we could do something with him. Who knows? He has my trust now as he trusts me enough to start telling me more and I believe he also has figured out that we have the vehicle that is doing some good otherwise you know what I mean because he seems... Well let's just see what Bobby thinks But the... Let's stop for a second. Bobby Inman, who used to be the head of the agency for the longest period of time and then retired and is I don't know how old he is now. He also refused the job as Secretary of Defense? Yeah. He turned it down because screw you guys. Very interesting character that nobody talks too. No. And when will this year let's take a look. Oh, he's up there. He's gotta be in his 80s too. You can be in his 90s. He also gave me the impression that

1:30:44 Bobby is a tough cookie. 83. Yeah, well he looks like a tough cookie if you look at him He just looks like the guy who'd say yeah, he looks like they gotta throw ya out I don't like this question. Get out of here! Yeah, if you say the wrong thing he'll shoot ya... one of those guys He just looks like one of those guys. A tough Texan, he looks like a one of those guys Then again nobody's talking to him Now he is uh.. Looks like he's at the University of Texas or was But Texas Instruments? No, he graduated from the University of Texas in Austin That's by his name in the area Is he still chairman of Texas Instruments? I don't think so

1:31:25 Mmm. No, I got involved he's involved whatever the case it would be a great He he's got to be the guy who's watching current events and and talking to himself And just around the house just mumbling don't you think mumbling? Oh my god. I can't believe these guys What are they thinking? Yeah also no yeah Don is what is wrong with Netanyahu What did you think of that bomb he held up at the United Nations? He rolled his eyes and what is wrong with this guy. And that was the thing about Kerry, see what Kerry is...what a dipshit thinks he's going to go in there and well we'll just fix this all up. We will have Palestine and Israel everybody be happy I'm John F. Kerry! I can do this! You know emphasis is mine. All right anyway we'll work on that

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

CBS Show Scorpion and Technical Inaccuracies

The hosts mock the CBS drama "Scorpion" for its unrealistic portrayal of technology. They specifically highlight a scene involving a "word macro trigger" used to delete files, calling out the show's writers for using nonsensical technical jargon to impress a non-technical audience.

scorpion· cbs· word macro· hacking· television

1:32:22 Alright, did they get to do the transition thing? Yes please. I do have a clip...I don't like these clips! I don't like clipping them! I don't like running into these clips! I just hate it but i do have a clip from Scorpion Now this is a clip. Explain what Scorpion is. Scorpion is this piece of crap show that's on CBS. Runaway hit, a runaway hit. No it's not you're full of crap. It had 11 million viewers! It's a hit! They say it is, but if you look at the numbers it sucks. It's barely pulling its weight. What are you, 10.5 million viewers? That was the first day and now it's dropping every show. It's a piece of crap. Highest rated drama! CBS is trying to talk people into watching with that bullcrap I'm looking at the numbers Well we'll talk about that later let's just play this clip You don't like me Now this shows about these techie nerds who have their consulting group With McPhee

1:33:24 What? McPhee is in it. Yeah, McPhee's in the hot end we have we have and they keep dropping these this technical stuff that supposed to impress the audience with some of the dumbest bull crap imaginable they took over a car started driving you know from like a mile away because they access the Wi-Fi network in the car. They hacked the car got it. Long distance then stopped the car good work and now there's this little tidbit in here Play? Yes. PAC contributions this morning I came across a wire transfer made two weeks ago labeled CA 78 SE Okay, I had no clue what that meant so I opened the file there were a number of contributions but no names which is a huge red flag So I copied the file onto a flash drive to run it by our co-counsel

1:34:17 But when I went to print it, the file was gone. Money laundering? That's my guess. I guarantee Barnright monitors their whole system as soon as you open the file they knew you were looking at it They had an override word macro trigger to delete it He certainly knew something An override word macro? An override word macro trigger To delete it Yeah, I got one of those. I think they just make this stuff up. Let's string these words together and I'll bet you this will sound great. It was worth it! My goodness good one McPhee

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse on Climate Change

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse is criticized for his alarmist rhetoric regarding sea-level rise in Rhode Island, citing the Hurricane of 1938 as a warning. The hosts suggest his passion for climate legislation may be linked to personal investments, noting that many members of Congress hold significant stock in companies like Apple.

sheldon whitehouse· rhode island· hurricane of 1938· sea level· apple inc

1:35:00 Back to the pipeline thing, I do have a couple of things. The senator from South Dakota, a woman who is a Democrat... Oh this is the key XL pipeline? Yes! So I wanted to get these clips out of the way and having had Nancy come up with her poster. Barbara. Barbara. A classic. This one just- this is the clip Senator Just a Pipeline. I think we need to be honest about what we're talking about here. And, I frequently say that the pipeline has taken a role in American politics that is way disproportional to what it is. It's a pipeline. There are over 2 million miles of pipelines in America today.

1:35:46 This is going to be just another one of those and it's going to be state-of-the art. There's actually between two, I don't know if it's 2.6 or 2.9 million miles of pipeline this pipeline was a couple thousand miles? Millions millions of miles of pipeline and so what's the fuss around this one again it's because its symbolic and has to do with global warming Well, what...it probably has to do with contracts or something. I mean this is- I think in the back of it that's why I want to go to Washington and look through the files and get them right and find out what this guy White House, I have White House here that douchebag from Rhode Island who was the most- Black Pete! That guy? Yeah, that's him. White House Black Pete So here's White House on the pipeline

1:36:32 Well, actually... You want to do the O.N.? ...the White House on global warming first? You will see our capital city flooded to the top of the buses! Write it down in The Red Book John Our capital city flooded to the top of the red buses. You will see houses smashed to flinders Flinders, Flanders? What is a flinder? Stop I'm sorry have to stop this I think he meant Tinder, or something. He said Flinder. I don't think there's a word...I don't think Flinder is the right word in this usage. Flinder? No no no! Small pieces splinters are fragments. Wow! Flinders good words. Why does anyone use that word?! Good Word! Hey, I give White House a ding for a good word.

1:37:23 And he goes on let's just play skip the rest of that it was only 20 seconds. It might be funny no, it's 1938 all right back to the pipeline Now play his little complaint here and then you get to, you see that this guy something is wrong with this guy. And I'd like to find out what? Okay well he's studying the dictionary She is passionate about getting this done and it's because of her efforts that we are here and I have to say that I am just as passionate as she in opposition

1:38:06 to this bill. Many of us come from coal states or oil states or natural gas states, Rhode Island doesn't have coal at least it hasn't in generations we used to mine coal and Portsmouth and Cumberland but it's been a long time We don't have natural gas sources, we don't pump oil what we do have is a coastline And at that coastline and oil and natural gas are doing to all of us through the operation of natural laws, through the operation of laws of science stuff we can't get around this is an opinion is really harmful to Rhode Island. Naval Station Newport has a tide gauge

1:38:59 My friend Senator Manchin was kind enough to come and visit from West Virginia. And we started out bright and early in the morning, and our first stop was with the Navy folks down at the tide gauge. And at the tide gauge what they show is that since 19... since 1930's The water levels are up 10 inches We had something very big happen in Rhode Island in the 1930's. We had the hurricane of 1938 If anybody wants to take two minutes and Google hurricane of 1938 and hit images you will see terrific destruction. Yeah, global warming obviously. No he went on about this... Global warming. And then that's when he gave the description of all this other crap right but you know this guy

1:39:52 He's the worst. He is the guy who is head of one of these subcommittees that they bring all these experts on who say this is bullshit and talk about 30,000 scientists that have signed a document saying this is bull crap and they bring guys experts on to say we get more wildfires as it's cooling not when its warming and he just ignores everybody and goes on and on... He has invested in something I am absolutely sure of it. It's funny because I got a list uhmm.. Who sent this to me? It was a list of senators and congressmen who are invested in Apple. Someone has a list, there's their lists starting to crop up. There's about time people start you have to go over here 48 members of Congress are Apple investors huh like but big money

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

Senator Ed Markey and Pipeline Logistics

Senator Ed Markey's opposition to the Keystone XL Pipeline is framed as a concern over Canadian and Chinese interests using the U.S. as a "straw" for oil exports. The hosts also explain the technical process of using a "pig" to separate different batches of oil within a pipeline.

ed markey· tar sands· china· pipeline pig· oil prices

1:40:41 Yeah, no. These guys are all big. These aren't slouch investors. No Another one in that same campus is Marky the guy from Massachusetts nuts Markey Malarkey and Markey Malarkey Here he is going on and on he takes a different approach and decides to be just a drama queen with his presentation Gentlemen we still import approximately the same amount of oil in 2014 as we imported in 1975 when we put the ban on exportation of oil. On the books! We're still exporting young men and women overseas into the Middle East to protect tankers coming into our country. Oh, well... there you go And we're gonna build a pipeline for the Canadians down to the Gulf of Mexico so they can use us as a straw

1:41:33 to send it down and then export it out of our country? Straw. Where's the American angle on this?! I keep hearing its about American security, about American energy security! Do you want to know what this is about? I'll tell ya what it is all about. The Canadian company... companies want to make more money. The Chinas, they want to take the oil from Canada bring it down through the United States bring it to the Gulf of Mexico and then send it to Europe and Latin America and China why? Because they will pay more

1:42:15 for this oil, then the United States will pay for this oil. Well there you go and these tar sands are owned by Chinese are they not? No I think... Yes yes yes! I don't think so, I doubt it. Okay tars sands Chiners. Yes we've talked about them. They're investors that wouldn't surprise me We have plenty of American investors too but i don't think so Tarsans, by the way could get wiped out. The price of oil dropping like a rock I think is down to 74 bucks. I think at some point it's like...I don't remember. I've talked about this in the show before but- Yeah China invests billions in Canada oil. The Chinese are heavily invested in it. Okay well good for them that they're going to get screwed because once the price of oil drops below 50 bucks which can happen then the tar sands are worthless because it costs too much. It cost too much to extract and move it. Now about being about the

1:43:12 About it being Canadians only. And by the way, this pipeline is still being built just not going to cross the Canadian border. I got a kick at another Democrat that was on board with the den of the denter, the senator from Montana. And I would just play this little short clip. This is the pipeline benefits pipeline benefits. So it's not just the pipeline. I've got a pipeline with benefits Mr. President, I rise today in support of the Keystone XL pipeline – a critical infrastructure project that has been delayed by political games for far too long and just recently Mr. President the American people have said they are tired of political games they want action in Washington DC

1:44:01 The Keystone Pipeline will provide good-paying construction jobs to Americans, including hardworking Montanans and at no cost to the American taxpayer. And as the Bakken region continues to boom this pipeline will provide an important on ramp for Montana oil which will boost local economies That's interesting and on ramp. Yeah, but apparently they've already done it out of Montana There's already been 1 billion barrels of oil pumped hmm and they pump it put it right in the pipeline these pipelines You can put in you know you have one source And then they I'm not I meant to talk to a pipeline operator to get this how it works Specifically even though I worked at these refineries. I believe what they do is They ship as much

1:44:50 as much oil as they can, and then they put a pig in the pipeline. It's like a big plug? It's a plug and it goes...and it pushes the...it continues going and you can have either more oil from some different vendor after the pig arrives. Right. And then I don't know if you have some bookkeeper there, here comes the oil from so-and-so And I think in a James Bond movie they had... He gets in a pig and somebody goes up the pipeline. Yeah, he goes flying around! The problem with getting in a pig is that I don't see how it could not kind of rotate maybe be upside down? Oh yeah no, John here's the clue It's a movie Speaking of movies we have a movie on the way

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

Boston Marathon Movie and White House Moat Proposal

The segment covers the announcement of a movie about the Boston Marathon bombing and a Congressional hearing where Representative Steve Cohen suggested building a six-foot moat around the White House for security. The hosts ridicule the moat idea as impractical and a potential breeding ground for mosquitoes.

boston marathon· steve cohen· secret service· white house· moat

1:45:39 about the Boston Marathon bombing, since we don't actually have the video footage of the Tsarnaev brothers planting the explosive pressure cookers in the backpacks in the trash can as everyone says they did. As every documentary 60 minutes has shown in dramatized footage as the governor of the great state of Massachusetts says he knows is there but hasn't seen it himself, but now they're gonna put in a movie that will be real. That's how you do it! Yeah and the movie will be called? Bummers... Boston Strong Come on. No. It's a terrible title if thats true. Boston Strong Did you get to know from one of our producers who told us when we were doing this story on selfies

1:46:28 Is that the network ABC that was running this thing has a show coming up called Selfie? No, it's already been canceled. Oh good! Yeah no the show is called Selfie and its been canceled Well on the topic of the Boston Bombers and these other incidents... Before you do that I have one clip from the Senate Oh, okay. The Keystone Pipeline? Well if you're gonna play that then I get to play the Nancy Pelosi follow-up. This is not a pipeline it's just about stupid people in Congress. I said Nancy Pelosi again instead of Barbara Parsons So i'm not going to play that. You can show me a Nancy Pelosi clip and I'll play that. I don't have a Nancy Pelosi. It misspoke! Then we can't play anything...you do have one! And her head has gone. No, that's Feinstein. Okay listen.

1:47:15 There was a round discussion, the congressional hearing about the Secret Service and how they're functioning. And they had the new guy on or the deputy director of Secret Service who is now standing in for the previous director she got fired. Or did she resign? I think she resigned And she resigned. Right? So then we have Steve Cohen, who is... Is he from Tennessee? Is that a... Is this senator or congressman but it must be congressmen. I don't know. All right. I have to look him up. Let me look him up. Look him up. Steve Cohen. Democrat from Tennessee and is asking in all sincerity what we can do about the protection by protecting the White House. You know that- He's a house member of his house

1:48:06 And, you know this guy is answering and well we had a fence and he built another fence. And what do you think this congressman from Tennessee came up with? Yeah I know the answer to this so you have to play the clip without me ruining the joke What a moat What water boat six feet a moat six feet around be kind of attractive and effective? So it may be one of the things we balance. It may be sir Disneyland maybe I think we should do it with the drawbridge The remote is a drawbridge would be ideal, and it was to stop these maniacs from running up to the door

1:48:50 I think it'd be just a mosquito lair. It's just supposed to be a mess, they have to really make that water toxic. I think we should do it! Moat... What an idiot So then when it freezes in DC, it freezes quite severely in the winter then people can skate across it Yeah you skate around and around the White House You could have an event every year For that to be a serious question? A moat That's not a bad idea Senator, Congressman We could do that Really quite ridiculous. Yes, I would say what I'd like to do. Oh, sorry you want to say something no

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

Arming School Administrators and Media Bias

A PBS NewsHour report on arming school administrators in Washington state is analyzed. The hosts argue that the media's portrayal of firearms is intentionally scary and designed to alienate women from the Republican Party by focusing on the tragedy of Sandy Hook.

sandy hook· gwen ifill· pbs· gun control· school safety

1:49:31 I am going to relent. Go on, hit it. Oh yeah! I do have one thing since we talked about the Boston Brothers. The Boston Brothers yes... When i heard this clip this was on one of the...I think this may have been on Al Jazeera but when I listened to it I said there's the irony of Sandy Hook because when we deconstructed Sandy Hook It was part of a process that was going on in a six week cycle which seems to have vanished that was trying to get people, it was the Democrats attempt to get women to quit the Republican Party because it was filled with guns. So I ran into this story This is the Sandy Hook irony clip

1:50:16 Sorry? It's Gwen. Again, you have your obsession with this woman! No, you're the one that brought her up before. You're the one that has all of the clips. I just... Obsession. Seattle last month left five students dead reviving questions of safety and violence for students and teachers another school district in Washington state is answering that question unconventional manner, arming school administrators. Producer Terry Murphy from KCTS in Seattle has the story. The incident that happened at Sandy Hook for me for our community was a tipping point because it really opened everybody's eyes how can we keep our children and our staff safe

1:51:03 In the top in a school district. The answer to that question is to let school officials carry guns We've taken this dance where we're arming our administrators Funny funny you have that clip because Mickey and I had we just gotten home were tired and Wednesday nights it was last night this I think right Wednesday nights, typically we'll order two gluten-free pizzas from Domino's and make a good one. And we'll just watch 30 minutes... because I prep! I start prepping in the afternoon. I prep up until midnight sometimes 1 or 130 in the morning

1:51:42 And we'll watch some stupid TV. But there was no, it was only Real Housewives of Atlanta and I don't like that. I liked the Real Housewives of New Jersey or of New York but I can't watch the Atlanta and so that was a... And you give me crap for watching O'Reilly? Just telling you! Okay go on then, I'm not gonna interrupt you. Then when yeah we said well let's take a look at E and they had this new thing eLive which is just unwatchable crap And then, oh let's take a look at PBS News Hour. And this was on and just the portrayal of you know they have the guns loading it to range and I just got so disgusted by the coverage because of course it's a solution but they really portrayed with all the scary guns and everything was annoying. I had to turn it off. Really, I just want some stupid TV not this

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

CNBC Report on Marijuana as a Gateway Drug

The hosts react to a CNBC segment featuring Governor Jerry Brown and a debate over the marijuana industry. They mock the "gateway drug" argument, jokingly claiming that marijuana is actually a gateway to becoming a podcaster.

cnbc· jerry brown· marijuana· gateway drug· podcasting

1:52:35 It was very dramatic. You want stupid TV, not this which is stupid TV! It was really really stupid TV it was too stupid even for me. Okay. I had one more thing i wanted to do before we go into break... No maybe not. I got the clip that... Follow the clip right away with the break music. Okay, I don't know why but i think it will work okay this is the latest pot report on CNBC Governor Jerry Brown expresses the same concerns Larry has that when you go to Denver and you see a lot of people smoking a lot of pot

1:53:20 Do you want that in your town? Well, as it becomes more widespread is that different. But to Kevin's point if you're investing in a barcode system that can track from seed to bank which could be used in other industries or if you are investing in a childproof package that allows you to carry your medications with you You are far removed from the marijuana That may be legitimate business outside of pot Kate, you know I just want to say I think Larry made a really important point and and i don't have a lot of patience for all these pot stories. I feel like people find it titillating and its fun to talk about but the reality is that it's a gateway drug. I think it's way too narrow for a show and im going to leave it at that. Okay!

1:54:08 That's right. Pot is a gateway drug, I smoked it for 10 years and I became a podcaster there you go. There you go! It can kill ya. Gateway to podcasting. Pot is the gateway to podcasting. And it can happen... You have to be careful. Warn your children we do have a bunch of people to thank for show 671 including Kristoff Shuttle Dryer I believe I think that means screwdriver. In uh, I don't think so yes you think so? Yes! Anyway he's in Bod Follingsbostel which is i guess one of those little resort places. Maybe plate spinner

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Small Donation Acknowledgments and Chinese iPhone Clones

The hosts read through a list of donations under $100, including a unique contribution involving a Chinese iPhone 6 clone that runs Android. John Dvorak discusses his plans to write about these counterfeit devices for PC Magazine, noting their popularity in China due to their low cost.

iphone 6· android· china· pc magazine· karma

1:54:56 Deutschland I and he says that once to bring some karma to his dad who had a stroke And some do his wife who has me. I commute 700 kilometers per week Wow save my sanity may ask for a stammering Obama whoop him in it was worth it Karma for the old man, we'll do all this at the end of our segment here make a note Yeah chat in men in Los Angeles California one two three four five I key Aiki Kitagawa in San Jose, California. He did send a note and he came in with one two three four five And you know it's getting dark. You know this damn rains coming in here Yeah, I sent a handwritten note which is completely unreadable

1:55:37 But I do want to read a piece of it. I'm donating this to the Sunday show, which is next coming up but this Thursday. I'll look at it and maybe read later on Sunday's show that came in today. Craig Covell in Chicago Illinois 12333 and... Oh, I'm sorry! Yes, yes. Hold on a second. I didn't see it there. And in the red corner wearing the black trunks with gold trim he has a record of 33 wins zero losses and one drop. He's the grand duke of Belgium and France Sir Stephen Van Gelder!

1:56:29 He says he's making it rain in preparation of saws on nothing miss that one the ace falling behind He says he doesn't want to miss too much right, but you know a lot of people now sharbax in southern Switzerland $111 11 cents this actually was a in the form of a iPhone 6 Oh clone from China Oh really? Yeah, I went yesterday to a trade show down in the Santa Clara Convention Center which had all these astonishing shows. So he gave you a 111-11 value as... No, it's fake, it's an iPhone 6 clone which runs Android.

1:57:14 And it looks like an iPhone and I got a lot of stories, I'm gonna write it up in the PC Magazine article about this fake phone. And you will of course say that this was a donation to The No Agenda Show? Uh...I don't know how much...take it out! Self-proclaimed plugs. The point is that according to him—and this is a videographer guy who says he's going to listen to this interesting story—apparently you've corresponded with him and told him to get stuffed Is this the guy who's a global warming? Yes. No, it's open comments on the on the on the episode I just commented and said he was like whoa

1:57:53 Oh man, Soder is real! He's a very interesting guy. He makes his money taking videos of trade shows and he is a big No Agenda fan but also claims to be a douchebag boner and that's why it's a phony since the beginning. He says he will do a couple hundred two hundred dollar donations to get his operation mentioned And he loves the show but is all in on all the stuff that we bitch about. I know, yeah well that's fine. Well it's like me watching Real Housewives of New Jersey. Yeah! It's painful very peculiar. It's painful you know? It's painful. I don't what is okay... It's like picking a scab you can't help it

1:58:37 Anyways, are these phones he claims and he goes to China a lot So I told him I'd give him money if you can get become more of these phones over because they know everyone's gonna want one. I saw him from plugging this on Twitter Yeah that that's him yeah and so but i'm thinking this phone is not Playing with it. It's not really a quality product Gee, I'm surprised. 90% of the Chinese are buying this phone instead of the iPhone because it's 100 bucks American John what the fuck are you doing? This is just don't talk about phones! I'm stopping this good point i'm stopping David Shamus in Sands Point, New York $108. Chris Johnson and Edmonds Washington where the ferry boat goes a hundred dollars Dave Bozeman in Wilmington North Carolina $100 Sir Brian Barrow dot com and Royal Wooten Bassett Wiltshire UK $100 Anonymous in 88 Anonymous is Sydney New England new Nebraska

1:59:39 Sydney, Nebraska which I think i've actually been to. 8891 Robert Goschko Sherwood Park Alberta 6969 Oh there he is again! I have to read his comments. This is the Grand Duke brilliant newsletter deconstruction Yeah Swaziland often from Steven Pels markers, thank you. Thank you drops those in occasionally and Duke John Jean-claude schmid

2:00:17 69-69 Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington. 69-33 Jeffrey Schwab in Olympia, Washington 67-67 Christopher Gray in Grand Blanc Michigan 66-66 René Labbé in Santa Monica 60 I have a note from her Oh yeah she... no Yeah, it's just a note saying you guys are doing great. That was small but nice paper Heather food What do you think, Fucinari? Fucinari. Fucinary in Santa Ana California 5555 Kevin Dills in Charlotte North Carolina double nickels on the dime along with Sam Cutts in St Louis Park Minnesota. Do you think Sam is related to Matt I doubt it 5510 Chris Leto Leto Leto in VZ

2:01:15 You know, 5510. Sherry, Sherry Laurie, $55 from Elston Wick Victoria Australia Robert Huxley in London Ontario These are both birthdays I see. Yes, they're birthdays. Sorry Chris Perry in Silver Spring Maryland Rob Wales and Concord West New South Wales Australia 5432 Carter Blumeyer in Windermere Florida 5369 Michael Ast Flak. Ast Flak! Ast Folk in Berlin, Deutschland. Deborah

2:01:58 Martin van Galen Last. Martin Van Galen Last. Dave Evans in Austin, Texas. Hey! That's my buddy Dave. Dave? He's up there on the hill like... Dave?! Dave is not here. Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst Ontario Michael Gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado Lonnie Webb in Richardson Texas Kevin Derbyshirer in Ajax Ontario Brian Matthews and Ball Brigham

2:02:40 Colorado Dublin iron on you ball brigand in Dublin all bringin ball brigand I'm from ball brigan a it's kind of funny when you get a guy like Dave who was donating? I think he's kind of saying hello. Are you still are we still friends you want to go out oh yeah, but now with him goodbye Oh, he's always flying all over the world. No what does he do um he's in high-tech and I'm David Schneider in Boca Grande So you got a town Boca Raton so you have to have both a grand day. We're biggin and return Yeah, and the Abida grande answer Mark Tanner in Whittier California nice now we do have a bunch of different kinds of requests for Sound effects I think he's not at all we're gonna do them all at the end and at the end

2:03:40 I'm gonna end it up with this and do one more. I'm just going to do the whole thing as much as i can do here we go. That's how we roll. And that's the story. It was worth it. It was worth it. Boom shaka laka! Boom shaka laka! You've got karma. There we go, we've just about everything in there and thank you of course to our everyone who's donated under $50 Our monthly is highly appreciated Thank you for listening to what I said the other day or on the show People stepped up

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

Anniversary Wishes and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts celebrate the wedding anniversary of listeners Lonnie and Casey and perform a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Quistan of Lincolnshire and Sir Ladyfingers. They reiterate the "value for value" model of the show, thanking the audience for their continued financial support.

knighthood· sir quistan· sir ladyfingers· value for value· anniversary

2:04:27 You know, it's just the model of the value for value model works. People just need to be reminded that it works that way. I love when people say you're too popular! That's why your attitude has changed. That's why you suck or maybe that's true. It's strange sometimes all but I think all we need to do is remind people. We had a guy and no, we don't mention anybody under $50 because it's considered anonymous and by the way, I can read a note This guy says he donated 50 and now he's 33. I guess it's for, I don't know how he got this set up... For a podcast license for my unsuspecting wife Casey. November 30th is her anniversary of her favorite segment and mine! This is a segment that we don't have actually but okay

2:05:20 Is the yeah guy and we hear a phone call on the show with the ya guy before our anniversary Which is under 30 so we have a number of couple weeks to go. Okay, so it's Casey and who? Casey and Lonnie So it's Lonnie is the guy in Casey as his fiance Yeah I guess do you want to do it III know what to do here You have to have a question for the guy Hello? Yeah. Hey, uh... This, you know Lonnie and Casey? Yeah yeah yeah So they're getting married huh? Yeah yeah Is she hot? Yeah oh yeah yeah Alright thanks Later Yeah yeah Dvorak dot org slash N A

2:06:06 It's your birthday, birthday of Noah Jenner. We congratulate Sir Philip DeSilva who turns 25 today Robert Huxley says happy birthday to Lotta turning 55 today as well Sherry Laurie will be celebrating on November 25 and Thomas Butterick soon-to-be a knight Happy birthday to his brother Samuel and college buddy Andrew Smallman As do we all your friends here at the Vast staff and management of The Noah Jenner Show say happy birthday to you all And we congratulate Sir Mike Nikolaychuk who becomes a baronet today, which means he's well on his way to a protectorate as his next step will be Baron. Then we have two knightings which is very posh

2:06:53 Well, grab the long blades for today's ceremony and I would like to request Kristin Smith and Thomas Buttercup step up on stage. Both of you have supported the best podcast in the universe with the amount of $1,000 or more and thereby your joining the very elite group of knights and dames and I hereby pronounce the K thee Sir Quistan of Lincolnshire, and Sir Ladyfingers of the displaced Texans. For you my friends we've got Hookers & Blow or Hookers & Molly, Red Boys in Chardonnay, Poppies in Port, Pornstars In Pot, Conilinga Yoga and Jambo, Cannabonists in Cabernet Long-Haired Heavy Metal Guys in Scotch And of course there's always the mutton and mead which is not as tasty as some of the other things on the menu but always a guaranteed winner.

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Peter Kassig and Sarah International Investigation

An investigation into the background of Peter Kassig (Abdul Rahman Kassig), who was reportedly beheaded by ISIS, reveals his aid organization, Sarah International, has suspicious ties. The hosts point out that the organization's website was registered much later than claimed and uses the same privacy service as government-linked entities.

peter kassig· abdul rahman kassig· isis· sarah international· state department

2:07:39 and filling. Please go to noahdenonation.com slash rings, and get your information in there so Eric DeShill can send that off to you. Now I have a little deconstruction work i've been working on. I'm going to say most of the show would have kind of fit in a little earlier when we're talking about Don but this is um... The president came out and called the Peter Kasig murder the beheading of which there is no actual visual evidence of the beheading. Pure evil, evil, evil, evil, EVIL. And you know I decided to look into this guy

2:08:22 Oh, great. Boy oh boy! I mean why bother you might think? I already know this is going to be a winner And let me just see what the president said he said... Oh by the way The guy's name is no longer Peter Kasig It is Abdul Rahman Kasig You see, he converted to Islam before he was killed. Oh and there's a controversy over this of course. Controversy... well the president says Abdul Rahman was taken from us in an act of pure evil by a terrorist group that the world rightly associates with inhumanity Do you think that's a little bit of prose and drama in that statement? Hyperbole thank you! That is the

2:09:08 Like Jim Foley and Steven Sotloff before him, his life and deeds stand in stark contrast to everything that ISIL represents. And he gives a little history while ISIL exploits the tragedy in Syria to advance their own selfish aims... Abdul Rahman was so moved by the anguish and suffering of Syrian civilians that he traveled to Lebanon to work in a hospital treating refugees. Later, he established an aid group, Sarah, to provide assistance to Syrian refugees and displaced persons in Lebanon and Syria. These were acts—selfless acts—of an individual who cared deeply about the plight of the Syrian people." So I figured, well you know what?

2:09:52 I got some time anyway. Why don't i go check out this uh this Sarah that he has started? Sarah International, sarahmedic.org and if you look at their home page sarahmedic.org due to the present security situation in Syria Sarah has temporarily ceased its operations so we started looking a little bit bopping around to see where this comes from and how this was funded And they talk here about the founder of 2012, Peter Kasich former US Army Ranger who served in the Iraq War. The same picture everybody else is using of this guy and so effectively they've shut down their business So I start searching around a little bit more and it's interesting to see that even though they started...they were founded in 2012 this website was registered much later than the start

2:10:50 Let me just grab it here for you. I can't find this site. S-E-R. Oh, S-E-R. Yeah. S-E-R-A? Medic. Medic. Dot orgs So I did a little who is of the Sarah this Sarah medic and even though they were set up in 2012, the website was not actually registered until August 1st of 2013. And I can't find out who... It's reasonable. Reasonably recent? Yeah but okay yeah it was suspicious yeah just just a little irksome and they have a private registration service In Burlington, so they used an anonymizer. Yes boy well I'm going to get back to this in a moment

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

Conscience International and State Department Funding

The hosts link Kassig's organization to Conscience International, a humanitarian group funded by USAID and the State Department. They argue that the repeal of the Smith-Mundt Act allows the U.S. government to legally use such organizations to spread propaganda to the American public.

conscience international· usaid· smith-mundt act· propaganda· james e jennings

2:11:35 So I started reading because i want to find out more about this organization and they say on their website if you go to our story. Right, I'm looking at it now yeah actually I think it was maybe our work there was a different one the thing might have been on the Wayback Machine they say we are a 5013 C corporation non-profit not findable in the database. That could be because maybe they didn't file, that doesn't...maybe cause they closed but there's no evidence of them actually being that. It's okay. Sarah stands for Special Emergency Response and Assistance. Then I come across an article this is an article about Elliott Stemph and when i come up with the Elliott Stemph because if you go to

2:12:25 The way back machine, you look around at the Sarah International. You see the name Elliot Stempf pop up which is no longer on the website as it is today but the way they've closed it down but Elliot Stempf and he's the contact for this Sarah outfit. How do you spell that? Stempf? Oh never mind! It shows up on the suggested links. There ya go He's got a lot of stuff up here. Okay, and this is an article from 2013 around the time they started this from September 23rd so right after the website was up training first responders amid serious rubble And then this isn't Syria Elliott stem somewhere in southern Turkey he's talking about Sarah founded by Peter Kasich So that's all in there and

2:13:12 They talk about, you know they sleep on the floor in some small apartment together. And then this line caught my eye... Last week Atlanta-based Conscious International gave Sarah its biggest contribution yet $30,000 worth of medical supplies mostly antibiotics and pharmaceuticals to be distributed over the coming weeks So I figure what the hay let's go look at this Conscious International Well This is an interesting outfit. Conscienceinternational.org, it's kind of a tough one but you need to go to that site... About Us Who Are We? A humanitarian relief and development organization that implements life-saving medical interventions they've got a vision statement what they do And then as I'm looking about who the people are in our leadership we have

2:14:08 founder and chairman, president I'm sorry James E. Jennings PhD and he is founder and president of Conscience International and executive director of US Academics for Peace a unit of conscience international now if you look at us academics for peace This is all over the place and they're in... it's kind of funny. They have rapid response to the following places Turkey, Iran, Pakistan India Haiti Indonesia These guys are everywhere And they are primarily funded this outfit by Come on John give it a try The State Department Yes United USAID absolutely Okay Then I did just for yucks I did a Whois lookup

2:15:02 On their website, hold on I don't want to misquote so i'm going to open this up. I saved... save this and here we go! I'm gonna open it in a different window can have next to each other oh lo and behold registered and protected by the exact same registration privacy group in Massachusetts as the saramedic.org Yeah, they're both trying to cover up who they really are. Of course that's one reason using anonymity. And if you look at the websites... They are built exactly the same! Yes I see that the websites are exactly the same. Exactly. It uses almost the same template. I like this template and i'm going to use it. It also has a great mobile template which automatically shows up when-I was looking at it on my Nexus 7. My last newsletter had a nice mobile template So these are created by the same people

2:16:01 So now I'm, I have a connection between yet another one of these so-called beheaded people to the State Department through the people financing them. This is becoming annoying to me Yes, it's annoying to anyone listening to the show because it is annoying that our own government is trying to bullshit us to such an extreme. This again was part of what was the name of that act that has been repealed so you can propagandize? The Smith-Mundt Act You can now propagandaize the American public legally. You could never do that in the past And particularly online

CHAPTER 35 / 44 Discussion

Peter Kassig's Military Background in JSOC

Research into Peter Kassig's military service shows he was a member of the 75th Ranger Regiment under the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC). The hosts suggest that his background as a "killing machine" under General Stanley McChrystal makes the official narrative of him as a simple aid worker highly questionable.

jsoc· 75th ranger regiment· stanley mcchrystal· michael hastings· isis

2:16:40 What happens? By the tech experts. Yes, Brian the gay crusader shows up and Brian is you know I don't know when he's not flying around protecting LGBTQIAP citizens of society with his cape He's doing research for this show and He sees The Army Ranger reference And here's, this is all in the show notes. He did a beautiful rundown I have to...I'm giving him credit because he did a great job here. Kassik became an Army Ranger with an army special operations unit 1st Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment but now that is part of JSOC The Joint Special Operations Command also commands and controls the special mission units Now was this guy that was supposedly beheaded? Yes

2:17:35 And he's a JSOC? Yeah, listen to the story. The Army's 1st Special Forces Operation Detachment... um here it is uh Operation Detachment Delta the Navy's Naval Special Warfare Development Group DevGru SeamTO6 Seal Team 6 and the Air Force's 24th Special Tactics Squadron units from the Army 75th Ranger Regiment hold on ding are all controlled by JSOC So this guy was not just a US Army Ranger, he was part of Joint Special Operations Command. Now this is according to the sources we have. What are the activities of the 1st Battalion of the 75th Ranger Regiment? Well I'm glad you asked!

2:18:25 Primary tasks include direct action, national and international emergency crisis response airfield seizure airborne and air assault operations special reconnaissance intelligence counterintelligence combat research and rescue personnel recovery and hostage rescue joint special operations encounter terrorism. Notable members of the 75th Regiment General Stanley A McChrystal 10th Colonel of the regiment Who was the commander of JSOC during Kassik's time in the 1st Battalion? That was, of course... McChrystal. Going back to the article that Michael Hastings mysteriously killed in a strange accident in his car—this is from his famous Rolling Stone article on McChrystal and McChrystal's time at JSOC which included this guy who was so called beheaded guy who we saw photoshopped head on the ground quote

2:19:25 JSOC was a killing machine," says Major General Mayville, his chief of operations. McChrystal was also open to new ways of killing. He systematically mapped out terrorist networks targeted specific insurgents hunting them down often with the help of cyber freaks traditionally shunned by the military The boss would find the 24 year old kid with a nose ring, with some fucking brilliant degree from MIT sitting in the corner with 16 computer monitors humming to the special forces commando who work within the crystal in Iraq and now serves on his staff in Kabul. He'd say hey you fucking muscle heads couldn't find lunch without help! You gotta work together with these guys!" And finally this is according to uh

2:20:06 Alternate. McChrystal's troops in Iraq, quote, do not distinguish between civilian and military oppositions, between activists and their sympathizers, sympathizers and the armed resistance." So I am going to assert... A killing machine indeed! Yeah. I'm going to assert this is bogus Now this guy may be dead, I mean who knows? But he was not just hanging out with the Syrian... No. There was money flowing from the State Department into this US Academics for Peace into this consciousinternational.org for an outfit that only according to GuideStar in 2013, only really did about $600k is a pretty big list of people on the board and involved in this operation

2:20:57 I don't know if you had a chance to look at all the people involved. Unconscious International? Yeah, Conscious International. Wade Beavers? Richard Swindle? Look at who they are! He's a lawyer, big shot lawyer in Atlanta with one of the big firms. John Mark Carpenter served on the board of Conscious International. He was born in Georgia, lived in West Africa, Liberia, Monrovia... Come on man!

2:21:35 Are you looking at these guys collectively? Yeah, they are not the typical Do-gooder and these and they build stuff. They build houses projects Something up with this guy's so the same website same registration They gave money or so called money I guess it was pharmaceuticals to these two guys And this guy just happens to be a killing machine and then all of a sudden he's he's we captured him Okay And he also converted to Islam, which seems to be kind of on par for this.

2:22:14 Well that way you can do the converting to Islam allows you to change his name and gives you the makes it creates a smoke screen for doing any research like you did. Yes, and it also allows people to say that ISIS ISIL don't care No they don't care there's a Muslim or not yeah That meme is actually in play on all the, with the right wing radio guys and right wing TV guys. That meme is major. And then what's funny because I heard one of these discussions and there was like a point counterpoint to listen to these shows it's like wow these guys are just blah blah blah. Listened to this discussion where it just proves that ISIL people don't even care or they have a grudge against other kinds of Muslims you have to be certain kind of Muslim

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

Wesley Clark and the Seven Countries Plan

A 2007 clip of General Wesley Clark is revisited, where he describes a Pentagon memo from 2001 detailing plans to "take out" seven countries in five years. Clark attributes this policy coup to neoconservatives like Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney, who aimed to destabilize the Middle East before Russia or China could regain power.

wesley clark· paul wolfowitz· desert storm· project for a new american century· syria

2:23:12 That's why they didn't care to kill him because it was just ridiculous. No depth, no research nothing. One of our producers sent me a clip... Now we know we have a go-to clip of Wesley Clark We call it the Wes Clark 7 and I think let's just play that little bitty piece here Here at Wes Clark 7 where he talks about well, it's easy here we go So I came back to see him a few weeks later and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. And he said, oh it's worse than that! He reached over on his desk and picked up a piece of paper and said, I just got this down from upstairs meeting the Secretary of Defense office today This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries

2:24:02 in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan and finishing off Iran. Now this was about the key here is seven countries in five years our producer found this clip of Wesley Clark which is a little it's the same message but there's a reason why its...and remember this is 2003 I believe when when this took place. Was this 2003? Or was right after 9-11 It was during his... What, the Clark? Yeah. The Clark clip when it took place. I have to look back on it but I thought it was when he was running for president

2:24:39 Here is the same information expanded and pay attention to the reason for five years It came back to me a 1991 meeting I had with Paul Wolfowitz, you know in 2001 He was deputy secretary of defense but in 1991 he was the undersecretary defense for policy it's the number three position of the Pentagon and I had gone To see him when I was a one-star general. I was commanding the National Training Center I I said to Paul, and this is 1991. I said Mr Secretary you must be pretty happy with the performance of the troops in Desert Storm? And he said well yeah but not really because the truth is we should have gotten rid of Saddam Hussein and we didn't

2:25:21 And this was just after the Shia uprising in March of 91, which we had provoked and then we kept our troops on the sidelines and didn't intervene. He said but one thing we did learn he said We learned that we can use our military in the region In the Middle East and the Soviets won't stop us. He said and we've got about five or ten years to clean up those old Soviet client regimes Syria Iran, Iraq before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us. This country was taken over by a group of people with a policy coup Wolfowitz and Cheney and Rumsfeld and you could name a half dozen other collaborators from the Project for New American Century they wanted us to destabilize the Middle East turn it upside down

2:26:22 make it under our control. It went back to those comments in 1991 and that's why we're failing in Iraq because Iran and Syria know about the plan All you have to do is read the Weekly Standard, listen to Bill Kristol and he blabbermouths all over the world Richard Perle same way they could hardly wait to finish Iraq so they can move into Syria There you go. To do it all before Russia was big again and powerful. Or the Chinas, yes. And now if you look at the news... Iran... That's a good one that could be given some special kudos. Well let me find out who that was because that is important to credit that producer here we go this is from I'm just make sure it's okay to talk about him yeah Jim Bentley

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

Iranian Gas Exports and Halliburton Merger

The U.S. is reportedly cozying up to Iran to facilitate natural gas exports to the EU via Azerbaijan, bypassing Russian pipelines. In the energy sector, Halliburton's $34.6 billion acquisition of Baker Hughes is noted as a major consolidation move within the oil services industry.

iran· azerbaijan· halliburton· baker hughes· natural gas

2:27:28 Let me see where he found it. He doesn't even say where he found it, but the clip was in 2007 and Wesley Clark makes it clear that plan is still on to invade Syria. The very next year 2008 five years after the invasion of Iraq was when US Russia relations started to deteriorate I think Russia started to react between 2007 and the Georgia incident in 2008 that would be why the U S switched to portraying Russia as a dangerous aggressor Yes, I agree. And if you look at the news right now this is very interesting Iran again we're trying to make we're cozying up to Iran now We're making good with Iran they will start selling natural gas to the EU in 2015 via Azerbaijan

2:28:20 Azerbaijan will be the gas mediator. Well, we own Azerbaijan! Baku? This is where we've got Conchita Wurst running Baku with the Eurovision Song Contest. Right... an odd connection. We own Azerbaijan! We're there and Hillary Clinton, everyone hanging out there And Azerbaijan is, and of course that will then run through I presume the Georgian route or one of these other pipelines. So it seems like

2:28:57 Some things some parts of the plan are working of the Syrian you know taking over Syria. This actually explains why this Syrian Incident attempt to bomb memory where they were gonna bomb them, and then I guess Dempsey kind of pushed that back That's what it trying to get rid of Dempsey because he's like a fly in the ointment of his scheme hey man And they had, they wanted to send Syria a message by sending some missiles in there because of the gassing. Which we now know although it's still presented as though the Syrians are gassing their own people... Fact! We now know that the rebels are the ones who produced the poison gass and sent it over there but that's okay. It's not important. Well who cares about the facts? Yeah this is fun. Isn't it though? It starts to come together

2:29:50 I would say look out Brazil. Did you talk to Don about Kagan? Oh, you did right? Yes, I didn't. What's missing from this some of these analysis here is Kagan not being left into the... Even Wesley Clark never mentions him that I can see. Well, the fact that Wesley Clark is outing Crystal and the Project for a New American Century at the time he said this...I think Clark is your fair weather friend you know? I'm not sure that you can really count on him There was some other news just to show you that there are moves in the industry. Halliburton has announced they will buy Baker Hughes, which is a tool maker. I guess they facilitate drill and do stuff like that $34.6 billion deal. That's pretty sizable. Yeah, that makes them the second biggest company of this sort

2:30:52 I'm thinking that this is really what it comes down to. You know, I like the Syrian angle on this. Do it before Russia or China but you know... I think it's clearly meant for Russia. Well the whole Syria thing has got to have these guys at their wits end because that never happened and now looks less and less likely And the Russians, you know so we're making the Russian's life miserable by creating that episode in Ukraine which is yeah we're behind as it's so obvious and now the Russians are struggling. What was there had something else I'm gonna have on Ukraine? Oh! I don't know if it's true or not but there was an article

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

Ukrainian Gold Reserves and Central Bank Claims

The hosts discuss reports that the Ukrainian Central Bank has no gold left in its vaults. While some sources suggest the gold was moved to the United States, the hosts remain skeptical of the specific claims but acknowledge the broader economic instability in the region.

ukraine· central bank· gold reserves· zero hedge· russia

2:31:37 Well, this came through Zero Hedge which I think is a little...they're kind of knee-jerk. I don't trust their information or intelligence gathering. Yeah, I'm not too big on either but I went back to the source on Ukrainian TV. The Ukrainian Central Bank admitted quote the vaults of the bank have no gold left and the conclusion on Zero Hedge is that the United States stole the gold. If there was a rumor that the gold was loaded onto a plane and flown back to the US, it wouldn't surprise me by none of this would surprise me if true but I had no evidence of this

2:32:22 Yeah, I'm not but you know just because you brought up Ukraine. I'm just gonna put it out there The Russians could have taken it to for oh yeah the Russians are buying gold like crazy right now Yes They are and I'm not gonna say that we're not pro-russia per se per se But I do think they're patriotism is much stronger than ours in the United States. Yeah, it's a possibility. The Russians when they... I just got this one clip that kind of relates to this. This is a clip about the Polish apple industry. The Russians have cut off the trade with Europe because they were had these sanctions and so their

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

Polish Apple Industry and Russian Sanctions

The Russian ban on European agricultural imports has devastated the Polish apple industry, which previously exported over 600,000 tons to Russia annually. The hosts argue that these sanctions, driven by the U.S. and EU, are causing significant economic pain to European farmers while the U.S. remains relatively insulated.

poland· russia· apples· sanctions· european union

2:33:01 created a situation. If you listen to just the numbers, it's exacerbating of the situation in Europe which really is unnecessary and we'll be...of course I think it may be that we're liking it as Americans because if the European economy collapses, we benefit exactly how, I'm not sure but i know one thing is the euro's finally down to a buck and quarter. And it should be down to a buck before we're done with this But just listen to the numbers involved here with the Polish apples story During a meeting today Putin repeatedly urged Russian companies to refocus their sales toward Russia's domestic market and away from trade with the West

2:33:42 Indeed, Russia's interference in Ukraine has set off a new Cold War and the weapons in this war aren't war planes or rocket launchers although we've seen plenty of that on display in eastern Ukraine. The weapons are the stuff that people depend onto live everything from oil to apples These Polish apple farmers are on the front lines of an economic war raging between Russia and the West sparked by the real war in Ukraine Polish apples became a casualty after Moscow slammed the door on most agricultural imports from the European Union. A tit-for-tat response to Western sanctions slapped on Russia. Russia is inflicting major pain in this farming community, an hour's drive south of Warsaw. Orchards for as far as the eye can see grow this – the famous Polish Grewitz apple. It is delicious! Poles love these but so do other people

2:34:38 In fact, in 2013 Poland exported 677 thousand tons of apples to Russia. That's 56% of all its apple exports but that all ended on August 1st There is nobody to buy those apples now and that is going to cost Polish apple growers 659 million dollars this year Another Don anecdote Yes We were talking about Department Of Homeland Security And I brought up the fact that our NATO friend Poland is not in the visa waiver program, that it's very difficult for Polish citizens to obtain a visa and they're very angry about it.

2:35:27 And he, I think you know you have to say do you remember there was some taping of some high, the prime minister president was saying screw these guys. The Americans they're not really our friends because this is a big deal. We played that on the show and then Don said oh man you know... There was actually a Polish couple who they had hoped would be living in with them but kind of taking care of them in their older in their older days here and they had overstayed their visa, very similar to Miss Mickey. And they left and they were deported can't come in for another 10 years. And then Don...Don can't do anything for them just like he couldn't do anything for Mickey but you know a brilliant conclusion! He says ever since 9-11 this all this stuff happened

2:36:16 Really? Yeah, don't say. And my one comment on whatever the president of America does about immigration...whatever he's gonna do it is impossible almost to become legal in this country because of the Department of Homeland Security who are ripping people off who are militaristic Hitler-esque assholes About them allowing you to come in because you may be a terrorist. Of course that doesn't go for all 300,000 of them but the whole culture is bankrupt So whatever the president does that's what needs to be fixed Well, whatever the case is the Polish one industry of apples which is you know Yep cost the polish economy sick as over six hundred million dollars for one years and crop

2:37:14 crop. This has got to be multiplied by God knows what if you looked at the entire production of all agricultural products that used to go to Russia, this can't be a positive thing... Adamson But we've gone over this for those countries but for us I'm not...you know it might not be bad. Borg But the crazy thing yes is bankrupting the EU and we had the tomato story and we know that And of course, sure the apples can't but it's bullcrap because they just ship them to Turkey put a different label on them like the tomatoes and they sell them anyway. But all these agricultural outfits all get subsidy from the EU because of the sanctions which we're driving and people are so stupid in the EU I'll just say it again you're so stupid! You're allowing Brussels to screw you over under this guise of oh scary Russia

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

Ferguson Riots Schedule and Uber Hit Job

Media producers reportedly expect riots in Ferguson to break out on a specific Sunday schedule. Meanwhile, the hosts analyze the recent negative press surrounding Uber as a coordinated "hit job" potentially orchestrated by competitors like Lyft to mobilize public sentiment against the company.

ferguson· riots· uber· lyft· sarah lacey

2:38:07 It's an attack on Europe if anything really. So it's a whopper We don't even get to see that much of the news coming out there, but there's riots everywhere Yeah There are just lots of riots going on Any of that presented us because you know somebody might get the idea like rioting or we have another You know Ferguson everywhere kind of thing I got some background on Ferguson look as A couple of our producers are in the media and they were sent home, and they have been told to come back. Sunday is the day. Sunday is the day that riots break out. They're all going to be there on Sundays. Will that be in time for deadlines? Well I think the idea is the president does his thing today you know we'll bitch and moan about it then Friday will switch over they'll ask for another 48 hours and then Sunday all hell breaks loose okay That's the idea. I think it's the idea

2:39:03 I just see that's the schedule the media has this is the schedule our Producers have presented to me. Okay, I presented to me sounds like Yeah a little bit of tech news I thought we did the tech news when we talked about the fake. No, no! I cut you off. Oh, you did? That's right. You have one piece of tech news...you have a clip? Do i? Yeah What clip would that be? Uber. Oh, the uber story yeah well it has some background on this story there is an uber. Which I think is a hit job

2:39:47 I'm thinking that too, because there's just too much stuff all of a sudden coming out. And it's a known fact that Uber and Lyft have had a blood feud and Ubers pulled dirty tricks on Lyft but apparently a lot of it was triggered by Lyft pulling dirty tricks on Uber like false bookings. If it's a hit job well done! I agree. Well, I think the best thing they did is to mobilize women Whoever did this, and I just saw it immediately. First you get Sarah... what's her name? Lacey. And the idea was someone said oh we'll dig up dirt on her who cares! You know Oh Someone says we're gonna dig up dirt on a journalist everyone loses their shit The American public is being spied on and blackmailed by their own government like whatever. Haha That's funny they got planes flying around with that. Oh boy

2:40:42 But talk about Uber, everyone loses their crap over it. And all the women... I'm deleting Uber! This is this is the big thing hashtag delete uber So it's clearly a hitch so we don't have to play the clip actually I think we've kind of done it now yeah There was something that I picked up Which is very very What does the word precocious? I don't think that's the right word scary and this is Being worked on as we speak and I have not heard anybody talk about this as a piece of tech news ATI s open web alliance. Have you heard about the open web alliance an SPD? Why? SPD why mm-hmm SPD wife, I type in that something's gonna happen. I don't know

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

Google's SPDY Protocol and the Open Web Alliance

The hosts warn about the "Open Web Alliance" and Google's SPDY protocol, which would route all web traffic through Google's proxy servers. They argue this is a move to centralize control of the internet under the guise of faster performance and mandatory encryption.

google· spdy· open web alliance· chrome· proxy server

2:41:35 SPDY, the Open Networking Protocol developed primarily by Google. Which is sketchy for transporting web content. SPDY manipulates HTTP traffic. An experimental protocol for faster web. SPDY includes mandatory encryption for all HTTP traffic This is a... and yes, it's Google. But if you look at the whole alliance let me I think I have I have a PDF which i'm gonna make um boom I may not be able to make this one available but because of The person who sent it to me is in it. I don't know if this is open or not. Yeah, this is driven by google and Facebook and more

2:42:22 And the idea is primarily, here it is to have all your web traffic flow through a massive Google proxy server. And that will and in this protocol... Google protocol to replace HTTPS that forms the foundation. Oh yeah, this is a good one! But check it out they're gonna build it into Android Chrome and Firefox is also on board oh of course they're failing and let's see Tumblr WordPress Twitter our only hope I'm sorry

2:43:05 Microsoft, you're our only hope. No I think let me see...IE is also on board not in Safari by the way not a safari but this this is and they can do this really almost without you even knowing it because all they have to do is just build may already be baked in baked into yeah into Android and Chrome And they've got this, oh the Amazon Silk browser I think is also...the Amazon may have a competing service but that's dead in the water. The idea and you had this little diagram, your little Android browser with the Chrome logo there's all this traffic going to the S-P-D-Y Google proxy which now it's drawn as the cloud and so you're secure between you and Google

2:43:57 And then Google is going to proxy all of your requests out to the web. This, you can't... we must fight this! Yeah, you're not gonna be able to fight anything. Well this must be stopped and I think part of this Let's Encrypt initiative which is Mozilla, Akamai, Cisco EFF where they want to deliver a free certificate authority service may be part of this somehow. I don't know, but none of this bodes well and be very very careful of this open web alliance with the speedy protocol and be very wary of that

2:44:54 I'm reading about it on the wiki. Yeah, and no one is writing about this stuff nobody's talking about it to write about and most of the people that write today are not technical enough to write but it's about phones! Not enough about phones... It's not enough about phones where in this wiki page does it talk about resolution of the screen? Headline headline! Where does it talk about the retina display?! You're missing the point headline Now your phone will be even faster on the web. That's it." Yeah, well that's fast enough. I always want to make sure we do at least one piece of technology news you just won't get anywhere else Well any- we could do that until hell freezes over there is plenty of those And then i have a clip I'm very proud of...I was called out by Padre SJ Why were YOU called out? As being mean

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Padre SJ on the Psychology of Online Meanness

A segment from "Padre's Corner" on the TWiT network discusses a Harvard study suggesting that negative or cynical statements are perceived as more intelligent by the public. The hosts find it ironic that the priest used a negative report to criticize online negativity, placing them on a list with Bill O'Reilly and Jon Stewart.

padre sj· harvard· psychology· cynicism· bill o'reilly

2:45:55 Who's Padre SJ? He's the priest on the twit network. Oh, that guy! Yeah you want to hear this? I've worked with him before yeah i have not no i have it's a very friendly jolly fellow he's a jolly fellow now as is our want we're going to start off with a little bit A freaking science. Now stop- Freaking science! I'm in the freaking science segment, John. Freaking Science? Freaking Science. Me if you- This is Padre's Corner. Freaking Science? Freaking Science. That's crazy No it's freaking. FREAKING SCIENCE. You've heard this. Let's uh, let's keep going now stop me if you've heard this but on the interwebs if you spent any amount of time The way to get popular the way to have your tweet retweeted the way to get your facebook post liked the most

2:46:43 It's to be mean. Well, it's not just a theory. It's not just something that we say in bars. It's something that a study of piece of research that actually has evidence to back it specifically coming from some researchers over at Harvard what they found was that negative statements are inherently more intelligent or at least seemed to be intelligent taken to be more intelligent than the positive ones For some reason, there's something in the human psyche that says someone who can say something disparaging... cynical, something negative about a thing knows more about that thing than someone who can say something positive. They also found when we want people to actually remember the information that we're telling people rather than just take it and pass it through, it always helps to be derisive if you can say in a way that puts someone down put something down insults an event an action of person that people are far more likely to remember that bit of information

2:47:41 Now, that explains a lot of things. That explains Howard Stern. That explains Sarah Palin. That explains Jon Stewart. That explains Bill O'Reilly. That explains Stephen Colbert! That explains Adam Curry and pretty much all the internet The things that are popular... ...are the meme. What a great list You're on the list of the hot shots With Sarah Palin and John Stewart Yeah And then Bill O'Reilly This is bullcrap BLACKPINK Of course it's bullcrap. It's a stunt for Padre SJ just wants to get mentioned... Well, that was a very negative thing he did right there! Thank you That was not a positive report it was a negative report Very- He is putting himself in the same hoping to be mentioned and said what you did Yes Mentioned in the same breath as these other guys including you It's very meta Very meta what he did there It's very meta and I hope that he realizes what he did I don't think so And it wasn't very padre like

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Irish Water Charges and Austin Utility Bills

The introduction of water charges in Ireland has sparked widespread protests. One of the hosts compares this to his own utility bill in Austin, Texas, noting the oddity of being charged more for sewage than for the actual water consumed.

ireland· water charges· austin· sewage· public utilities

2:48:42 As Padre stuff goes, you would expect more from your padre. Yeah. All right Johnny boy I think we should wrap this up You know I got editing to do to put all these pieces together. That's why we had a fail in the middle Interrupted by whoever interrupts. Yes somebody thinking it's funny. Yeah, yes thing cuz otherwise they would have cut us off Uh yeah, don't have anything else but Euroland see oh Yeah just one thing in Euroland I guess Ireland is the... I guess they didn't have to pay for their water. Water was free in Ireland. It rains a lot! And now the government has announced water charges and people are freaking out. Good, they should take down the government put new people in. I looked at my bill here in Austin it's half of what used to be in California

2:49:36 But I actually which is funny because the state of Texas is much drier than California So they say every way and yeah could be taxes or something now, okay Well, I don't know but I now pay about I think was $58. No $47 for water this is a I think this is monthly and fifty eight dollars for sewage I'm somehow I am pushing more fluids down the drain, then I'm taking out. Because you presume I'm consuming some of the water that comes out... Yeah and then you pee it out and you also drink wine and beer? It just seems odd that... You crap it goes into the sewer? Seems odd that I have to pay so much more than for the water I'm using.

2:50:31 Yeah, I know what you're saying. If it was the same company with the same public utility charging they would have to probably rationalize this but these guys say that's too bad you're getting a deal with your water so shut up It doesn't feel good You know just doesn't feel good That's the way it is All right, you got anything else? You got anything more about it? I do have the...if you want to hear Boxer going off on. I'll play this because I can set it up so that you get a kick out of it. She's a character. Yes So she in the middle of the Keystone Pipeline thing she says like a point or order I'd like to not take away from my time but we wanna just say that we wanna do a meeting to pick the head of the NRC

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

NRC Nominee Dispute and Show Sign-off

The show concludes with a clip of Senator Barbara Boxer arguing with Republicans over a Nuclear Regulatory Commission nominee. Adam Curry announces he will be broadcasting from Amsterdam on Sunday, and the hosts sign off with a montage of quotes about ISIS and the "unknown unknowns."

barbara boxer· nrc· stephen burns· amsterdam· donald rumsfeld

2:51:16 And we want to do it off the record, in the back room with nobody around and... The NRC being the national nuclear regulatory? That nuclear regulatory. Nuke guys! Nuke guys! Nuclear regulatory something. Anyway so the Republicans said no this is not the way it's done its always been done The fool, everyone listening in. I mean what's the point? And she goes off on him and it's hilarious. Is there objection? Mr President, preserving the right... Senator from Louisiana. Ms President reserving the right to object there are major concerns particularly about the NRC nominee

2:51:57 He has no technical or scientific background. He visited his first nuclear plant this summer. Given that, and given that there is no precedent anywhere that I can find for a four-year nomination to the NRC not to have a nomination hearing before they're committed – that's all we're asking for – a normal routine nomination hearing given all of that objecting. Continuing the agreement that this not count on Keystone time. I need to make the point that Mr. Barron who is the subject of Senator Vitter's complaint already has been confirmed what we're doing is putting him in a different seat on the same Commission, that has a different expiration date and he had a hearing

2:52:44 And Senator Vitter himself asked 58 questions. Oh, 56! 56 questions So I just think it's sad Republicans won the election yes they did oh we're gonna get busy we're gonna get busy and we're gonna work so all i want to do is have a meeting to do our work out there off the floor on people that have had extensive hearings No, we couldn't possibly do that. And then to talk about the lack of experience when in fact he already was confirmed and Republican Commissioner Spinecki was nominated she had never even visited a power play

2:53:23 No one ever said anything about that and we all let it go. So I just think sadness is in my heart, really this is our work We're here to work! I thought that's what the Republicans said they wanted to do They wanted a work Oh no they come here and they object To a meeting off of the floor of the Senate so that we can move forward I want to make a point The TVA, the Tennessee Valley Authority. That's a very important authority. Ah yes of course well I would encourage... She is insane this woman! Oh yeah oh yeah well we know and you've you know her from

2:54:04 Back when she was Barbara from the block. Right back to that. Barbara from the block everybody! I like that story. I encourage all of our listeners and producers to go to atomicinsights.com This is Hot Rod Atomic Adams, Hot Rod Atomic Adams, Hot Rod Adams One of our producers? Knight Sir sir rod, sir. Rod and but he runs atomic insights a comic I got a podcast and He has a bunch of people around him who are actual experts on atomic and nuclear energy Radiation

2:54:49 Here is pro nuclear advocate with small nuclear plant operating and design experience, former submarine engineer officer. Founder at Adams Atomic Engines Inc., I don't think he ever built them because you know very hard to Get that financed, but this is the guy you want and there's a couple other the the Fukushima diaries I think it is. It's all linked from atomic debris to be washing up on shore any minute We're dying! I'm still dying from what I tell you All right we got some post-production to do on today show not quite sure what happened But as always thank Void Zero for keeping it together with Bailing Wire

2:55:36 Whatever it was that was a quite a network thing that happened there. Yeah, it's very interesting now during the NSA CIA North Korea Discussion just a coincidence I'm sure We will be back on Sunday I will be coming to you from Amsterdam the Netherlands On Sunday on Sunday as I fly tomorrow you get a good connection There so this is not gonna be a problem It's the same place they stayed at last time my buddy's house which should be okay A little bug flying around here. Enjoying the warmer weather here in FEMA Region 6, in the capital of the drone star state thank you very much for listening I am Adam Curry in the morning everybody and from northern Silicon Valley oh this is good talking into this giant bucket! I'm John C Dvorak we'll be back on Sunday please remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA see ya on Sunday right here On No Agenda

2:56:44 This, I think could be one of the most important things that we don't know that we don't know. Right? There's there's the stuff you know you don't know and there is the stuff that you know that you know and there is the stuff that you don't know that you know but the most destructive can be this to paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld The most destructive can be the stuff that you don't know that you don't know ISIS We will follow them to the gates of ISIS I feel good! It is scary and wretched and miserable. It is gross. There's a need for rescue mission when the world is threatened, the world needs help it calls on America And that's the story Adios mofo BLACK BEAT The best podcast in the universe Dvorak dot org slash N A