Arming A-holes

00:00 These women don't listen to the show. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Thursday, November 6, 2014. Time for you to get my nation media assassination episode 667. This is no agenda. Slinging my judge under my head here in FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star, open carry state, Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm proud to be a podcaster, where's the Red Book? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill. That's a bumper sticker. Proud to be a podcaster. Proud to be a podcaster. We need a little logo of like, you know, a penguin upside down or something stupid. Jumping around smiling. Exactly. That would be good. I have to interrupt the show right at the beginning. It's okay. What's going on? Are you missing the red book? Is there an issue? I'm going to go get the red book while you make this explanation.

00:54 just realize when you, in fact I didn't do this, I went to go tweet. I just realized when you said I'm sending out the bat signal that probably half or more than half of the audience, since you haven't explained it for years, just figure it's some sort of a gag, you know, you're thinking of the Batman movie, it's a reference or something. You actually have a system that I am now thinking to myself, You haven't really explained how it works to anybody in years, and I think they would like to know that there is actually a bat signal that is sent out to listeners who are more the fanatical type. Well, why would I explain it now when we can use this so perfectly well for our Christmas episode?

01:37 Oh, you mean explain it in the Christmas episode? Yeah, I was thinking that we're going to do a special... by the way there's something... I don't know this is it just me? I think my head... I think I blew my headphone up. Your headphone? You were in headphones? You were in cans? I got one... yeah I got one... I think I think one side... one side of the can... let me see if it's... one side of the cans is busted. It doesn't matter. Yeah, I thought that for our Christmas episode, we were going to put together a deconstruction of the deconstruction, but also explain a little bit how everything works. You know, we do have... Okay, we can do that. I think that would be good because I thought to myself, you know, self... Self, hello, self. I believe that people hear that and they go, oh, yeah, it's funny, ha, ha, ha, not realizing there's a mechanism in place.

02:19 That actually tells people I've heard it go off. Yeah, well there's more than just one mechanism John. I mean there's a... Do you hear like a fuzz or something? Hold on a second. No I do not. Can you just be still for one moment? I'm just gonna turn off the noise gate. Let me just see if it's me. No I think my headphones blown up. The right... It sounds like right channel is blown up. Damn. That's kind of annoying I don't have a replacement here. Okay sorry you can... Are you back? Hello? You just like oh whatever I'm just let curry do whatever he wants to do. I'll go take a leak I Think there's a lot of things that would be interesting to talk about on a Christmas show There isn't there is quite a number of systems that run the show that go and people who run those systems Who are the unsung heroes as always?

03:12 and people who develop systems and you know from the shill to Dave Jones to void zero and there's lots of people who are involved in in making it all work and I don't think anyone really knows. We haven't really put it all together in one piece and a part of that is our app developers and the bat signal which Adam Burkpile I think is the one who initiated that I think. Right I guess we could also mention Paul Couture we can do a big thank you. Paul Couture thank you yes Yeah, I took the red book and in the last two pages of the red book now has a title that says Christmas Show Notes. So we're talking about it, but I wrote it down so we won't talk about it and never talk about it again. We'll never talk about it again. That's another thing we should talk about.

03:58 that we sometimes have a very serious email conversation and we'll have like a really good idea and it always ends with, but now that we've put this on email, we'll never talk about it or do it again. That's the same thing if we ever see each other and go to dinner, it's just as bad. Except then at least we get, you know, like dinner. That's a bonus. You get to eat something. No, this is the problem with, uh, I will, of course we've talked about this before and I, for some reason I love talking about it. Um, Pre-interviews in oh yeah, of course well, but you know let's just save it. Just save it John save it I'll put you in the Christmas show yeah Christmas show Christmas show big Christmas show extravaganza coming up people Yeah, anyway a very big one very very big way, and I will be But I will be doing a show before and after I believe from Mexico. Oh this I did not know Yeah, we're going to be New Year's in Mexico. Yes, sir. Oh

04:57 How many times have I told you that the part of our new regime is we're going to travel every, you know, five or... That's when you're going to Panama. That's February. Okay. So I go to New York. We go to New York on the 14th. Oh, we can get our two No Agenda listeners in Mexico to meet up. We go to New York on the 14th. Then... I'm gonna write this down, hang on. Yeah. Now... December, New York. Yeah. For... and we're back on the... and I'm gonna see Uncle Don. Are you seeing Uncle Don on the 17th? That's... and then on the 18th we fly back. That's Tuesday. But then I've been called away for a secret mission to Europe, which I can't talk about on the show. Secret mission.

05:41 They're flying me in for something. Coach, but okay, they're flying me in. They? They. But it's coach. So you know it's Dutch show business. It's not that important. Can I go business? No, you're not going at all if you go business. Can I have my own ticket? Well, yeah, you can. Well, I got them at least to give me coach, comfort, economy, comfort, whatever that was. Right, and that's just for a week. Then I'm back, then we go to Mexico, then the first week of January we go to Amsterdam because Miki has her show opening up on the 10th of January. Her solo show, big solo show. 10th of January? Mm-hmm. And then we come back, then February is Panama?

06:32 I feel like a schmuck. I'm just sitting here in this in this berg. Well, I'll just everybody's traveling around I'll remind you that ever since we were able to put together, you know the road gear It's the same kit that I use here at home where the show as long as we have a decent connection Which it has worked out reasonably well so far we can make the show function and sound almost identical to the way it is when I'm at home base and that means I'm not hampered by you know, Jerry-rigged things, but it's just it's working, you know, I can do You got it down to a small box. I sling it over my shoulder and And so now we can go places so the Panama Trip will be Do you make it fun of me? No, I'm not you're having a time of your life. Yes. I yeah, you're watching the traffic go by oh, here comes the train

07:24 Train the train no no you're sitting there watching legislation of big soda drinks. Oh My goodness. I didn't know this was this was on deck in the in Berkeley Yeah, so they tried it in New York and now you actually have a tax on large sugary soda drinks in Berkeley, California What fools? Well, JC and I were talking about this last night. How bad? You were like, damn it, my 16-ouncers, all scooters, my big gullet. Oh, there's just right now a train just went by with a whole bunch of private cars hooked to it. Like eight of them. Oh, really? Yeah, and one of them was just, ugh. While you're talking about that, I'm going to order a new pair of headphones. There they go. Screw you guys, you bastards! Anyway,

08:11 I just smacked my lips. By the way, I've been catching that on everywhere. Everywhere. Oh no, I know. Everywhere. Once you start noticing it, you hear it a lot. It's horrible. So we were talking about the sort of thing and how the idiots who'd let it get past, they did have some ads, but they were weak. And actually JC, who should I guess be an associate in the Curry Dvorak totally insulting company because he came up with this he says no they played it all wrong because Because they still allow the diet sodas to be sold without the tax They could have pounded him for saying why is Berkeley promoting aspartame right and then show Rumsfeld's face? This man is behind aspartame and this is what this is all about he was he would make him rich. That's right you fools and That's right. It would have gone down in defeat you with your family tax and

09:02 The sugary drinks, you have to tax them all. You can't let the crap with aspartame go through. You silly people with your bamboo utensils. Exactly. You know, I'd have to remind everybody. We got her off of that, but Molly Wood, who, she lives in Oakland, but she's kind of a Berkeley mom. Still lives in Oakland? Yeah. Oh yeah. Moved to New York. Well, there's a kid and a kid's dad and everything. Yeah, but she came to our house in LA one time. And she had her... she's getting something out of her bag and said, what is this? Oh, that's my bamboo utensils. I said, what? So that if she's eating on the road, she doesn't ruin the earth by using plastic utensils from the taco stand.

09:47 and hilarity ensued for many, many months afterwards. Needless to say, she's never made that mistake again of bringing the bamboo utensils to our house. Bamboo utensils. I just ordered a new pair of headphones. I hope it's the headphones. It's not like something else. I don't hear anything. No. I think it's just one... The thing is, I did the... Here's what I actually did. To see if it was just... This is almost as bad as my Greenwich Mean Time watch. To see if it was just the right channel, I turned the headphones around in my head.

10:25 I know something's wrong with me. This is very stupid. Well, that wasn't as bad as forgetting that you said Sanco de Mayo. I know. Hey, we but we have a new governor in Texas. Very excited. Ironside is what I'm calling him. We have Greg Abbott. Yeah. And he beat out Wendy What's her name? Wendy Williams? Wendy... no. Is it Williams? No, it's not Williams. Wendy... Wendy Williams was of the Plasmatics, someone else. Wendy. Davis. By the largest margin ever in a gubernatorial race, which is kind of funny. But now the big thing here is one of his promises, one of his campaign promises was if a bill came before him,

11:11 for legal open carry in Texas, he would sign it. So everyone, yeah, I'm getting, I got a holster on and put on my belt, I'll be walking around. Hey everybody. The legal open carry was already legal. I think it is, but I guess it's going to expressly do something. I'm pretty sure it's legal, but in Massachusetts it's legal, open carry. No one ever talks about that. But nobody walks around with an open carry. Everybody's in a tizzy. And you know me, I'm going to go to my spin class with the judge dangling off my belt. Hello girls. Time for spin class. Oh yeah, just to do it, come on. Well the election came out pretty much as we thought. No that's not true, you said you didn't see it. No, no, I never said that. No, you won't find it anywhere.

12:04 You said you did not see how the Republicans were going to take the Senate. I really... You speak, white man speak with fog tongue! Let me explain what happened. We talked about this. We talked about how the Democrats were going for with fear to scare people on guns and the Republicans are going for the big picture, scare people about ISIS and Ebola. the fear factor to get them in. And I believe this is exactly what happened and I'm not the only one who thinks this way. And it only happened within the last month. So yeah, a month ago or two months ago even, I would have never believed this was going to happen, but they turned it around with this, with the Republicans' best trick.

12:44 which is to scare the public. Well, yeah, with Open Carry. Hey, and I have a couple of clips. I just want to say I have only one clip and I will wait until you're done because I was so annoyed by this entire process. the whole thing. And of course there were other things I was doing the typical no agenda thing. Like what else is going on? Something's happening that we're not looking at. So I went deep under the covers to find other things. I do have one clip, but please take us down memory lane of the most boring. And I will say nothing will change people. Nothing is going to change. Well, actually there is one thing that will change and I'm going to, maybe I would jump to that clip right away. And this is actually kind of,

13:29 Secondary Republican, okay. Here, this is one thing that's gonna change. Maybe help or show. Actually, I think this election will help to show. I was excited. Yes. Open carry. If they're a secondary Republican kicker, this is the one that's gonna, you gotta remember, this is gonna happen. sort of updated authorization of military force because the current law really applies to Al-Qaeda and its allies. But there's a new sticking point which is that Senator John McCain is expected to be chairman of the House Armed Services Senate Armed Services Committee. He's arguing and many others that this bombing only campaign isn't enough, that you've got to get US Special Forces on the ground, you've got to get field advisors with the Iraqi and Kurdish troops.

14:10 And you can expect that he will use his platform as chairman of that committee to hold some high-profile hearings really questioning the effectiveness of this bombing only campaign. Yes, you are correct and I was reading the FBI, the Foreign Policy Institute bulletin. This is the the Kagan, Bill Kristol, you know, a-hole, that one. Yes. Congress must lead on rebuilding the US military. It needs to be bigger. Because of all these cuts, which as you always point out, were cuts to the increases. They're cuts to the increases. In other words, they keep wanting more money and so they cut that a little. Oh yeah. As a cut somehow. You know what? We need to, you know, actually we've missed the boat. My mistake. I should have known. I have really messed up our future.

15:06 As a pilot, as a licensed pilot, not just a fixed wing, but a rotary aircraft. I should have been all over the drone thing because we should have had a drone company going a long time ago. I would agree. Yeah, I'm sorry. I apologize. I completely messed it up. This is... there's gonna be so much money. We can probably just say we're cons... we could still consult on drones or something and we could still make money. There's gonna be so much money flowing into the military-industrial complex. It will lift the American economy, by the way. The sad thing is we have to shoot this stuff off at people once in a while. It's kind of... it sucks if you're brown and you live in the desert.

15:50 Well, here's France 24 on the election. This is pretty international, so I don't mind doing all of it. I have a number, I have about five clips. And this is what brings up our point, which we discussed, which is how the Republicans have And they had retaken the initiative from the Democrats in their fear campaign, which was all local because they tried to, you know, you don't want to associate with Obama, you want local fear. You know, vote Democrat or you're gonna get shot by a kid. And Republicans went, both Republicans are gonna get killed by these evil terrorists.

16:27 I says, oh. This is France 24 in the election. And specifically the performance of President Obama. And in the last month or so before the election, rising fear among the electorate about issues taking place outside the country. 55% of the Republicans who voted yesterday were worried about, said the biggest issue for them was foreign policy, which is highly unexpected, even a month ago. And they were more worried about foreign policy than they were worried about health care or the economy. Speaking of foreign policy, it wasn't really foreign policy so much as fear about the outside world.

17:10 terrorism, Ebola, that was mainly the foreign policy message. The general broader message had nothing to do with the economy or anything else. Now so I thought that pretty much summed everything up. Yeah. And it was the fear campaign which worked before, it worked with George Bush for years and years. Yeah in certain states for sure. Now Here's another one that got my attention. This was on the NewsHour, and this is the media, the economy, and reality. And this was a fascinating clip because it

17:47 It kind of says something that's weak, at least in our agenda list, and you and I know to be true, which is that recovery is bogus. And we base this on shadow stats, the operation in San Francisco. And if anybody wants to look at these numbers... Right. When the president comes out and says unemployment is under 6%, but we need to get more people in jobs, there's something wrong with the statement. And if you look at the shadow stats, we have an inflation going on around 10%, even though the official number is less than 2, or around 2, it's bull crap. And the unemployment is continuing to increase. It's approaching 25% in real terms if you do the calculation like it was done in the 1930s. Joe Masso, with the U... What is it? U68, 48, 22? David Masso, No, it's actually Shalstead that says their own calculation. The U6 is a fake number too. So they're both going down and the real number is going up.

18:43 The public at large, I believe, senses this. Yeah, if you have no job. Yeah, but the media who have jobs who have Jack right or they wouldn't be the media got jobs. They have jobs. They have bought into the nonsense point where they're laughing at the public. When you listen to this disgusting clip with when I fall and some guy who's talking about this, they talk as if the The public at large, which knows what's going on because they're out there. With no job. People are sitting there pontificating based on government lies and you get a report like this. And then national issues got in the way as well. We talked a lot more about Ebola and ISIS and Ferguson than we did about...

19:28 about the economy and it showed in those numbers. Let me just add that when you look in the exits in terms of how people felt about the economy, they thought that it is worse than they did a couple years ago and that it is getting worse, it will be worse in the future. Objectively so, but it doesn't matter. What matters is how they think. So, the Democrats had two problems, they had a fall off in their lower the socioeconomic voters, but they also had this perception that the economy is getting worse. Oh my, how crazy! They have a perception that the economy is getting worse. They must be dreaming, these crazy people. What idiots! Can you imagine these two, Gwen Ifill going, well objectively that's not the case. That's just nuts, how can that be? Well that's just stupid people.

20:16 They're not elite. They do not watch the real smart shows like mine on public television. These are stupid people. So I found that to be so dismayful. Is that a word? Dismayful. I don't know if that's a good word or not, but I like it. It's a good title. Dismayfully disdaining. It's very disdaining when you're laughing at the public. They're idiots. These public, they think things are bad. So I decided I was gonna... I wanna get one clip and I want it to be a positive one, very hard to find. But I was listening to NPR during the day and I watched some CNN and what I saw, which

20:59 I really, I can't clip this because it's driving me, I just can't do this anymore with these people. But I heard Van Jones say, well, this was the other America that voted, meaning the white racist redneck fucks or whatever. Really? Yes. That's a good point. I would like to have had that myself. I saw it and I was like, no, I can't deal with it because It's such a propagation of hatred, racial hatred, that is so unquestioned by anybody. And I heard this continuously... It'd be racist to question the racist. No, but I heard this continuously. Well, the Latinos didn't come out to vote, the blacks didn't come out to vote because, you know, this was the other America that came out to... What are you talking about, people?

21:50 Because of course, these guys are all consultants, I guess, and they have to explain how this worked out, which is not that hard to figure out. Can I do my one clip here? Yeah, I got one or two more after you're done. Yeah, I just got one clip. That's all I got. This is Mia Love. Mia Love won a house seat in Utah. And Mia Love is black, not African-American, black. Alright, and she calls herself black and the two hosts, which is our friend Michaela, who I think is more African-American than black on CNN. Where's Michaela? She's brown. Yeah, well she also spent a lot of time in Brazil. Oh, she may be a Brazilian. Well, she married a Brazilian, moved there, and stayed there for a long time. So Mia Love is black, a woman, and a Mormon. So like pow pow pow three strikes, how is it possible?

22:45 And when you hear this so-called interview, which is a Republican, right? Republican. Oh, yes. Republican. Important part to mention. And smoking hot. That's when I add all the things in them and get it all out. And she's I think the fourth district, which is white people, I might add. I think she might even say that in this clip. But how you how Michaela in particular, but her her cracker ass host, how they're sitting there going like pretty much saying, well, it was about time they let the blackie at the table. Oh, yeah. About time they let the woman at the table. About time they let the crazy

23:21 the crazy religious person at the table. And Mia Love was not having any of it, which I thought was very good and she made some points, but they're so tone deaf, they didn't even hear the true bigotry that they were espousing. Like it was, oh yes, well, It's about time that you got your chance. No, how about people were sick and tired of whoever was running the crap there and they voted for her? They made history. You are the first black Republican woman to be elected to the House of Representatives. And I want to point out, he's saying black. No, I'm African American. I'm not sure why, but it must be code, I guess. Who knows? It must be code. So two questions. What took so long? And what do you think needs to happen? How is Michaela laughing?

24:05 What took so long, black lady? Well, first of all, I think what we need to mention here is this had nothing to do with race. Understand that Utahns have made a statement that they're not interested in dividing Americans based on race or gender. Like the media is. That they want to make sure that they are electing people who are honest and who have integrity, who could be able to go out and actually make sure that we that we represent the values that they hold dear. And that's really what made history here. It's that race, gender had nothing to do with it. Principles had everything to do with it. And Utah values had everything to do with it. So that's the history that we made here.

24:54 I want to challenge you on one point though because there will be that because we got to get some racial issue going here in the morning. Rosa will say not so much dividing on the basis of race but just making sure that everybody has a seat at the table. A fair shot at getting a seat at the table. Fair shot! Again, you have to understand, Saratoga Springs, there are very few black members, black residents there. I wasn't elected because of the color of my skin. I wasn't elected because of my gender. I was elected because of the solutions that I put at the table, because I promised I would run a positive issues-oriented campaign, and that's exactly what resonated. the

25:47 The House of Representatives is the branch of government that's closest to people and that's who I am. I am a person of the people and so my job is to make sure I'm representing them at every turn. I just found that whole exchange. Oh, and then the comment that, oh, so everyone has a seat at the table. That is nonsense. I mean this is the whole problem that you have. Everyone has a seat at the table. You got every idiot at the table. You don't want that. You want people that are, you know, that are confident at the table. Smart people running a show. Yeah, no, that's a great clip. Yeah, so, and I like that. I didn't know anything about Mio. By the way, I think that if you have a name that is, your last name is Love, I think you have a better shot at winning no matter what. In fact, I'm thinking of changing my name.

26:32 Adam C. Compassion, you know something like that because it's just Adam Love. Adam Love. It's Bubba the Love. Adam Love is flirting. Bubba the Love Sponge. You know it's just it's a good name, Mia Love. Yeah, I'll vote for that. Give me some love. So, despicable. Just despicable. And I'm telling you, Michaela and her Greg Ho, whatever the guy's name is, they don't even realize it. They think that that's normal. They think that this is normal. Yeah, but that's very, very... So, thank you. I'm done. Give me some other clips. The media thinks this is normal in general. Well, let's try, this is kind of an interesting gotcha. I didn't expect to see this on, I think it was on NBC Nightly News, but they threw a little gotcha at Obama. This is the clip, Obama and a drink with Mitch McConnell.

27:23 Fresh off phone calls to dozens of members of Congress, including Speaker Boehner and presumed Senate leader McConnell, he suggested the bitter campaign season could give way to compromise and maybe making those deals over a drink. I would enjoy having some Kentucky bourbon with Mitch McConnell. That's a sharp change in tone from just last year at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Why don't you get a drink with Mitch McConnell, they asked. Why don't you get a drink with Mitch McConnell? Yeah, I just thought that was why they pulled that out. Yeah, well, because there's a lot of that. I mean, it's always easy to, you know, to, I mean, the president also at one point, I saw a video pass by. He said, I have no interest in being the president of a Congress controlled by the Republicans. Well, you know, okay. Yeah. Well, then why don't you resign now? Now's the time.

28:19 Okay, so here is the...we have another unintended consequence besides McCain, which is going to be... Oh, it's going to be a bonanza. But this is an interesting one because it tells us a couple of different things I didn't realize. And this is the Republican...this is a report from NHK in Japan, and this is the Republicans and the TPP. Oh, yes. This is the fast-tracking. Trans-Pacific Partners. Yeah, the fast-tracking of my favorite... A trade agreement may have a positive impact on issues involving Japan. For example, the Trans-Pacific Partnership. The TPP is a proposed free trade agreement involving a dozen of Asia-Pacific nations. The negotiations have not made much progress, in part because a significant number of Democrats want to protect the U.S. market. Here's what Thomas Mann at the Brookings Institution says.

29:14 If the president's trade negotiating authority, the so-called fast-track procedure, would be reauthorized. If the Republicans decide to do that, and in principle they believe in it, but if they do it, I think that would increase the likelihood of the TPP. On the other hand, observers say the Republicans may demand a higher level of free trade in the TPP negotiations, such as the total elimination of tariffs. Japan would be against that, as would some Asian nations. Yeah, Malaysia. Thanks, Junpei. What? Our Washington correspondent. Yeah, but Malaysia, I think Malaysia will be— I didn't realize, I thought the TPP was about the elimination—I mean, you obviously took it apart and talked— Yeah, that's— Of course. It's all about—

30:06 It's all about elimination of import export trade tariffs. That's the main goal. Why would that everyone wants the TPP? The Asians want the TPP, but they don't want that part of it? Who was this guy? He's some analyst from one of the Japanese universities. Okay, well I don't understand why he's saying that. There's also the TTIP, which is the European Trade Agreement. And I've looked at these, whatever, not everything is available. And you've read them. Yeah, but, well, what's available? You know, people get all in a tizzy about, oh, and the unions will be screwed up and it'll mess everything, you know? Yeah, probably will. But it'll be good for America. That's why I'm all for it.

30:48 Go ahead and screw them people. I'm becoming a Republican now. Don't become a Republican. Now that we have this cute black girl in Utah who's a Mormon, we can do a secret handshake. That's what you should do. I'm considering. Hey, we have lots of LDS listeners. BBFs? BBFs? No, just LDS. No bareback. Oh, L, I'm sorry. LDS. Yeah. The last thing, if you...this is an optional clip, but this is a little bit about the gender gap. It still favors the Democrats because the women have been scared, you know, with this into voting Democrat because they don't want their kids shot by a random shooter with a gun.

31:32 But it's not helping at this point. It will help in 2016. You can play the gender gap clip for back up background. I want to start by asking you guys, as you look through all the detritus of last night and try to sort out what actually happened, one of the things that we saw in a couple of different states was Democrats playing by a playbook that worked for them before. And that was appealing to women voters. How did that work for them this time? Well, you know, we still saw a gender gap. So Republicans winning over men by double digits, Democrats winning over women by single digits. So it still exists. The problem for Democrats among women voters was that they made up a smaller percent of the electorate than they do in a

32:17 presidential year. And in some of those states like Colorado where they made the issue of women's health, women's reproductive health really the main focus, they weren't able to actually change the makeup of the electorate. In fact in Colorado less than half of the electorate was made up of women. I think it was 48 percent. Let's wrap this thing with this which is the most important clip as far as I'm concerned. at least based on my thesis about things. Marijuana is, I don't know if you knew this, but two more states. legalized marijuana. Marijuana was on the ballot last night, lots of it, as voters in Oregon and Alaska chose to legalize the use of recreational weed, joining Colorado and Washington State, where it's already legal. Washington, D.C. voted overwhelmingly to legalize marijuana as well. But don't start lighting up on the Capitol steps just yet. Congress has the ultimate authority over D.C. laws. I can't wait to hear that Norton woman.

31:32 But it's not helping at this point. It will help in 2016. You can play the gender gap clip for back up background. I want to start by asking you guys, as you look through all the detritus of last night and try to sort out what actually happened, one of the things that we saw in a couple of different states was Democrats playing by a playbook that worked for them before. And that was appealing to women voters. How did that work for them this time? Well, you know, we still saw a gender gap. So Republicans winning over men by double digits, Democrats winning over women by single digits. So it still exists. The problem for Democrats among women voters was that they made up a smaller percent of the electorate than they do in a

32:17 presidential year. And in some of those states like Colorado where they made the issue of women's health, women's reproductive health really the main focus, they weren't able to actually change the makeup of the electorate. In fact in Colorado less than half of the electorate was made up of women. I think it was 48 percent. Let's wrap this thing with this which is the most important clip as far as I'm concerned. at least based on my thesis about things. Marijuana is, I don't know if you knew this, but two more states. legalized marijuana. Marijuana was on the ballot last night, lots of it, as voters in Oregon and Alaska chose to legalize the use of recreational weed, joining Colorado and Washington State, where it's already legal. Washington, D.C. voted overwhelmingly to legalize marijuana as well. But don't start lighting up on the Capitol steps just yet. Congress has the ultimate authority over D.C. laws. I can't wait to hear that Norton woman.

33:17 About that. Well, I gotta hear the Norton. I can't I gotta pay attention to her now Yes, because there's gonna be some controversy. Oh, very good. Very good You know, it's it's I think it's important as the country and the world goes down the tubes We might as well be smoking weed weed weed man weed this guy in the 70s. What is this? We think? weed weed Fine. Good. That's my election report for you. Well, thank you very much. Yeah, good report. I'm happy you did that. As we know, nothing will change really. Well, the marijuana has been legalized. But that's a plus. I like the idea of lighting up on Capitol Hill steps. Yeah. I don't really do it anymore. No, I don't do it at all. Well, while this was taking place, there were a couple things that were happening.

34:10 And it's been bothering me for a long time now. And it actually was something that I saw this morning that really made it all click together. I've been on this Ebola thing since day one, not trusting it. Play the Calypso song. I'm sorry? Play the Calypso song. It's mislabeled and yeah here it is the Calypso song your favorite Ebola song Everybody now Ebola and the thing that bothers me about Ebola is

34:54 is the lack of evidence of all of this horror that is going on. You see, when we talk about ISIS, ISIL, Kobani, the unimportant town, we talk, you know, at least you can show stuff blowing up. There's lots of file footage. We just are not seeing, not even file footage of real Ebola sufferers. And I was listening to another NPR report. There was actually, it was a BBC report. And I didn't clip it, but it's this woman and it's like a sound... a sight... what do I use to call it? A sound seeing tour, I used to call them. And there's a podcast and she walks down this road and she has an interpreter and there's kids and, oh, that kid's sick. And that kid, you know, and it's not like the kids have blood coming out of their eyes because she doesn't describe that. Oh yeah, he's got a fever. Oh, don't let him come up to me. But not really any of the true, oh, yesterday there were 50 bodies here, but we never see it.

35:47 And the World Health Organization, who is in charge of the numbers down to the single digits, they just say a number. You know, I don't know who's counting. I like to have a little bit of underlying data. I just like it. You know, it's a part of my Tourette's. I like knowing what's going on. I don't see any real evidence other than brah, we have an OJ like a chopper following an ambulance in Atlanta guy walks out in his suit. Then we get a guy with a clipboard and his in his short sleeves. It means nothing makes sense. And two things happen. First, we had this

36:28 There was a campaign and it was a campaign underneath the electoral campaign. So it really didn't get the attention. They did make a video for it on whitehouse.gov, which I'd like to play for you because it was a positioning piece that accompanied this letter from the president. And this came out yesterday, November 5th. And you probably didn't hear about this because of course all we're doing is analyzing how a black woman from Utah, a Republican, could win a letter from the president to the Congress in this whole emergency appropriations request for Ebola for fiscal year 2015.

37:14 Now, I've been tracking the money. The United Nations already says that they've got a billion dollars and now the president is asking for emergency appropriations request for fiscal year 2015. And I need to talk about money for a moment. If I said to you the president wants 600 million dollars, you'd go, wow, that's a lot of money, wouldn't you? Yes. It sounds like, and to people in general, $700 million, man, that's a lot of money. But we've gotten into the habit of glossing over, I don't think the human brain is very good at processing the number, a billion. If you said $1,000 million, people might go, oh, that's a lot of money. So when the president asks for $6.5 billion,

38:08 For in emergency appropriations for Ebola, six and a half billion, six thousand million dollars. And all I'm seeing is tents here or there and some people with ski masks on. This starts to bother me. And where's this money going? Who is it for? So let me play the positioning piece for you first, about a two-minute clip. And again, all you're seeing is this. It's the same. They only have footage and pictures of the same tent, usually at night. It's well lit. It's beautifully done. It's almost like a movie set, if you see this thing. You'll see it in the show notes. It has purple lighting. It's all USAID stamped everywhere. But this positioning, which includes him with the doctors, where they put on the white coats quickly,

38:56 that press conference did recently, and then people in the Oval Office, and then people from World Health Organization speaking. Just have a listen. It's positioning. We know that the best way to protect America from Ebola is to stop the outbreak. I thought you were playing the music. No, no. This is the piece. With Obama talking with music in the background? It's a whole positioning piece. This is on the White House website. Terrible. And what he's saying at the very beginning is really the key. We know that the best way to protect Americans from Ebola is to stop the outbreak at its source. Okay, now I just want you to remember this as I play the rest. This is, this is, the narrative has changed. You will agree with me.

39:36 that it moved from, we've got to quarantine, no, no, no, no, no. None of that. The best way to protect America is to fix the problem at the source, which is oil-rich West Africa. Okay? Bear that in mind as you listen to the rest of this. Ebola is a terrible disease. that is causing great devastation in West Africa and that's where the help is needed. It's like fighting a fire. You have to spray that fire extinguisher at the base of the fire, not just at the top of the flames or you'll never put the fire out. You know, in order to keep the United States safe from Ebola, at the end of the day we need to be out in the field. We need to be out in the field controlling and contributing to getting the outbreak under control.

40:20 What's different about this virus is that we actually understand a lot about the virus and how it's transmitted. And so we have procedures and protocols where we can protect people. We have the capacity to be able to do this. We have the logistics within our Department of Defense, the military folks that can go out there to track the disease in the communities, to get people out of their communities, to do outreach, to get them into treatment facilities. We've got hundreds of Americans from across the country. nurses, doctors, public health workers, soldiers, engineers, mechanics who are putting themselves on the front lines of this fight. And when they come home, they deserve to be treated properly.

41:00 They deserve to be treated like the heroes that they are. I think it's a great thing that the President wants to publicly show some gratitude to people who are willing to put the needs of others ahead of their own. You know, I'm one of a large group of people that are out there that are really trying to make a contribution. Many members of this audience have already offered themselves in sacrificial service to the people of West Africa, but the struggle is far from over. more medical personnel are desperately needed. So there's a need for technical support, there is a need for just human resources, people who can go in and work there.

41:40 There is a need for supply. And it's because of the determination and skill and dedication and patriotism of folks like this that I'm confident we will contain and ultimately snuff out this outbreak of Ebola, because that's what we do. At this time, perhaps more than any other, we feel the impact of our position as citizens of not only the United States of America, but as citizens of the world. Yeah, we are the world! We are the children, baby! Okay, so... What was this smattering of applause? Obama's saying something here, a little smattering of applause. Yeah, this is when he had all the doctors... No, no, no, it's the little White House room where everything sounds much louder. Now...

42:28 So when I hear patriots saving the world, it's what we do, I'm thinking this is a military exercise because these are the same words that are used whether it's terrorist or whether it's an evil dictator, most of which we know is not true. I think, and I'm not sure who put this together or if someone just said, holy crap, let's grab this. But now Now everybody's in on it and I'm going to take you down the road so you can see how this is fitting together. First of all, in Washington, everybody, the people who are now the people, including the press, I believe, are in on the game. They know it's crap. Here is Jim Psaki explaining why

43:13 who's the power woman, Susan Power, who was our United Nations ambassador, how she was able to go to West Africa to tour around, to look at all the you know, the things that we're never seeing. Did you see power touring around West Africa with actually I did. And did you see people who had blood coming out of orifices were puking were dead bodies. It was just hanging out with with hoity toity types. Right. So you would think that she would. And she looks grim anyway. She's grim. She's grim. Ashen. She looks ashen. Her eyebrows go in a funny direction. So she just looks like she's

43:51 gonna kill herself in it. Gray and Ashen. Yeah. And she would have to adhere by the CDC's rules. I kept this for a week. Of course, we haven't really heard much more about the 21-day quarantine for our service personnel when they come back. It's just like getting a haircut, as moron Josh Earnest said when trying to explain it. And the question was, hey, you know, doesn't Susan Powers, she's scheduled to talk in New York. Doesn't she have to go through some quarantine or something? you mentioned that Ambassador Power while in West Africa, when she returns she and her delegation would abide by whatever state guidelines were in place. I know that tomorrow she has a public event in New York. That state at this point is requiring twice-day monitoring by a health official. Is she going to

44:43 that and is she doing anything beyond that considering she's just back from this affected region and she's still within that 21 day period? Sure, well she's on her way back as we have been able to said from the beginning of her trip she will abide by whatever state and local authorities require of her. And know that New York actually has everybody going to some form of quarantine at this point. In addition to adhering to CDC recommendations. Based on the CDC classification system and her itinerary, we anticipate the trip will be considered low risk, but obviously that will be evaluated by the proper authorities. Her itinerary was also reviewed by CDC officials prior to her departure and was not deemed to pose a significant health risk to the traveling party.

45:34 as now that she's concluding her... They are doing emergency landings in the United States because someone throws up on an airplane. And yet Susan Power, who was there walking around, hanging out, looking ashen and grim, there was no risk. No, there's no risk whatsoever. ...on her way back. It remains the case that she and her delegation did not have contact with those with Ebola. She did not enter any Ebola treatment units. uh... they observed all hand washing protocol all that the temperature screening yes and uh... delegation was accompanied by a helpful yeah thank you do you think i have a just back it up a little bit because uh...

46:13 The thing, if you're gonna go with the thesis, which you're going with... I'm going somewhere where you don't... Everybody's in on this. That woman, the nurse that said, screw you, I'm not going to put myself in quarantine. I know what's going on. She knows what's going on. She knows what's going on and she sued and won. Yes. And she's out bicycling around. And meanwhile, I should point this out, just because of the manipulation of the media, we have the right-wing media, all of them with very rare exceptions. Oh my God, she is a scourge. Everybody should be quarantined. We should block the whole state. We should quarantine everybody. That's the only way to stop it. We're all going to die. Yes. And now we've gone from you can't get it from sitting next to one on the bus to, oh, well, if someone sneezes and droplets spray on your face, then you can get it on the bus.

47:01 Now we have to make sure we have the military angle covered. Here is the leprechaun Dempsey, who is the chief of the chiefs, the head dude, chief of commander. What is it? Chief of staff. No, he's not chief of staff. Chief of staff of the U.S. Joint Chiefs. The chief of the Joint Chiefs. He's the chief joint chiefer. He's got his lucky charms. And we need to make sure that he's playing along. And of course, we know that the NBC crew, including their medical expert in residence, she didn't adhere to the home quarantine. She was out in a restaurant. So people now they know it's bullcrap. They're not doing a great job of hiding. But like you say, like the nurse, that story was dropped.

46:13 The thing, if you're gonna go with the thesis, which you're going with... I'm going somewhere where you don't... Everybody's in on this. That woman, the nurse that said, screw you, I'm not going to put myself in quarantine. I know what's going on. She knows what's going on. She knows what's going on and she sued and won. Yes. And she's out bicycling around. And meanwhile, I should point this out, just because of the manipulation of the media, we have the right-wing media, all of them with very rare exceptions. Oh my God, she is a scourge. Everybody should be quarantined. We should block the whole state. We should quarantine everybody. That's the only way to stop it. We're all going to die. Yes. And now we've gone from you can't get it from sitting next to one on the bus to, oh, well, if someone sneezes and droplets spray on your face, then you can get it on the bus.

47:01 Now we have to make sure we have the military angle covered. Here is the leprechaun Dempsey, who is the chief of the chiefs, the head dude, chief of commander. What is it? Chief of staff. No, he's not chief of staff. Chief of staff of the U.S. Joint Chiefs. The chief of the Joint Chiefs. He's the chief joint chiefer. He's got his lucky charms. And we need to make sure that he's playing along. And of course, we know that the NBC crew, including their medical expert in residence, she didn't adhere to the home quarantine. She was out in a restaurant. So people now they know it's bullcrap. They're not doing a great job of hiding. But like you say, like the nurse, that story was dropped.

47:53 Okay, so it's done. It's over now. We're not talking about it now Let's talk and let's look at how the the military fits in this this is where it gets interesting. Mr. Chairman. Can you talk about some of the specific? Items that the hell is that I think someone has Ebola in the press corps in about when you made your decision for the 21-day quarantine and then and And did the medical science ever factor into the decision, just the fact that the vast majority, if not all of the US troops who are down there, are not going to be in any kind of contact with Ebola? I'm telling you someone in the press corps has Ebola. You can hear them puking in the background. Was that ever factored in before the decision was made?

48:32 I'll tell you the thought process. First of all, the men and women we've deployed over there are there in larger numbers than any other group. As you've heard the Secretary say, we anticipated we'll probably reach 4,000. Secondly, they'll be there longer than anyone else. These healthcare workers come and go because it's such an intense environment for them. They may go for 30 or 60 days and then leave the area because of the intense pressure they're under. Intense pressure? What intense pressure? They're in a poker game that is a son of a bitch because a couple of those guys are ringers. We're going to have our young men and women there for six months at a time. That's the duration of our deployment. Six months?

49:14 at a time, John. Six months. Six. Six months. Not in direct contact with Ebola, but they're there longer. So more of them are not health care workers, by the way. And he just, important here, he says not that they're in contact with Ebola. That was a talking point or he wouldn't have jumped in like that. Yes. And, and he- Making it clear they're not health care workers. Yes. Yes. You know, we're infantrymen and we're supply- Infantrymen. Supply clerks. So when you add those things together, here's what I would tell you. We did factor in science. Science. Physics. Physics. The science we factored in. Wait a minute. Physics? Physics. He factored in physics? He factored in physics. And of course there's no follow-up question, but what? I think he means this is his code. You know, when we do

50:03 You know, this is not about small groups of people who are transient. There's protocols for that. It's also not about health care professionals in direct contact with Ebola. There's protocols for that. This is about a major military operation. Oh, really now? A major military operation? I find this poorly covered in our press. And big things on a global scale. Yeah! Big things! On the global scale my ears are perking up and so we took a conservative approach and we'll assess it in 45 days Okay, so you'll assess it in 40 big things on a global scale hmm now I have the two clips that really brought it all home to me today. Okay. I'm on pins and needles You should be you should be wait until I you know wait until I hit the final punch. So there's this this girl lady Aisha Sese

50:58 Aisha Sese. And she, I believe she works for the BBC. It could be, I think BBC slash CNN. She's a, but she is from Sierra Leone. And Sierra Leone, as you know, the numbers are everything, the numbers, the reports we're getting, which are kind of fuddled away, everything's good. You know, they haven't had Ebola for more than 42 days, which is the magical number, as we know. Yet, She brings us a report, which I found to be very interesting, and she really explains what is happening, and that is the total...you think you were terrorized here? Ha ha ha. They had several three-day long lockdowns. Home base could not walk on the street for three whole days, and I assert to you that this is part of a

51:53 big military operation, something on a global scale as we just heard our Joint Chiefs of Staff say. because they can't get out to the farms and all the other issues with quarantines and whatnot. And yet, Brian, if you watch the coverage coming out of the United States, you would think the US was under siege. You would think that Ebola was just around the corner and was about to be an epidemic in our midst. That is not the case. We know that to be so.

52:30 Thankfully, because there in the United States where I live, we have a robust public health care system which I am incredibly thankful for. But the fact of the matter is my family lives in Sierra Leone. My mother, my brother, my grandmother and countless other loved ones. I know what is taking place on the ground and somehow that has been lost in the coverage. That devastation, that suffering is not is not focused on enough. Notice the devastation is not from the virus, if you listen carefully to what she's saying here. The devastation is due to fear, is due to forced lockdown. People cannot travel, they cannot go, they are starving to death because they cannot go to get food, partially because of fear. But also I assert to you a large military presence making people do what they

53:18 want them to do. news is local. We are a globalized world so the issue of borders and boundaries and distinctions, those are amorphous beings in this age that we live in. So, you know, the problems of Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia we have seen so clearly in the last couple of weeks with a handful of cases that have sprung up in America. We've seen that those problems are our problems, our problems are their problems, we are all interconnected. So in telling the story it should

54:13 be told in an interconnected way. Ayesha, what have you seen on the ground in the countries you've been? Have they turned a corner in this fight against this disease? Well, you know, I'm in Nigeria right now. I'm in Nigeria, which is a success story in the fight against Ebola. Did that guy hear anything she said? No, no, nothing at all. Not a single thing. No. No, of course not. Wow. No, not a single thing. He's just reading. You know, as we do these, in fact, your clips today have the best examples of it. But as we do this show more and more and you hear the death essentially. Deafness, yes. Deafness of the media to whatever anybody's saying to him. This happens, by the way, this is reflected in Congress. As you, as we know, we've been playing these clips from the Senate hearings where the guy comes on and says, oh no, it turns out that is when global cooling causes wildfires. We've got all the documentation to prove it. And this could, you know, no, that would be the case. That's not the case with global. Any of these experts come on and give testimony and then the senators

55:16 This is the guy said nothing. Well, I assert to you it's even worse. I assert that people amongst themselves, human resources and citizens of the world are not listening to each other. I assert that women and men and people in intimate relationships are not listening. People are only thinking about what they're going to say next. It's a tough skill to listen to what someone is saying. Most people only have their narrative in their head. You and I have...we have taught each other to listen to what the other is saying. Sometimes we go askew. Otherwise we have no retort. Retort or rapport for that matter.

55:56 And it's hard, sometimes it's hard work to shut up and listen. Sometimes I'm very bad at it. It depends on how the Tourette's is kicking me. I have something to fall back on, excuse. Yeah, I think most as much as you can. Yeah, of course. I think most people really are only thinking what is the next thing I'm going to say? And most interviewers are only thinking what is the next great question I'm going to ask. They really are not listening to what someone says. Uh, 30 more seconds of this and then we'll take it home with the, with the bill. No new cases in over 42 days. That's an immense success story. But Brian, let me tell you in, in, uh,

56:35 in Sierra Leone and in Guinea, the situation is bad. The situation is still bad. It is present, Ebola, in every district in those communities. And my own mother, to put it in a personal context, is afraid to leave the house right now. My brother is there. Something as simple as getting your hair cut, Brian, that we take for granted, all of us, making these casual trips to the supermarket to get your hair cut. You have to rethink everything. everything in your life at present if you live in those countries. Again with the haircut comparison, which always bothers me thinking that she might have read a similar memo somewhere about the haircut thing.

57:14 So, she's in Nigeria. She's not saying thousands of people are dying from Ebola. She's saying the Ebola scare is keeping her mother in. She can't go to the grocery, grocery shopping, etc. Now, just recall that this is a grand military operation. These people are not doctors. They're infantrymen. there. It's physics, I guess physics for carrying stuff and setting stuff up or whatever's going on. Blowing things up. I think it's always...I think when you say physics, you're talking about bombs. So then... It's code. Well, that's even worse. I hadn't even thought about that. Then we get...this morning I see this on the BBC.

57:50 We are now I'm already irked about this six and a half billion dollars six and a half thousand million dollars See that's so much money When I was a kid we never talked about that we couldn't even count billion was not a number we talked about So now we have billions, but it's it's a smallest. You know not hundreds just $6,500,000 going to, and I do need to tell you what this is going to because this is important for the story, $4.64 billion, so $4,500,000 for immediate needs, immediate needs, this is from the present, immediate needs. $1.54 billion in contingency funding to ensure that there are resources available to respond to the evolving epidemic.

58:37 This, by the way, this funding, because of course where does it come from, the president says in his letter, my administration requests the funding above be designated as emergency requirements pursuant to section 251B, 2A of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985 as amended. So they've thought about where they can get this money from. Now we go to the fact sheet. from the White House, which goes into a little more detail of where this money is going to specifically. The Department of Health and Human Services will receive $2.43 billion, and that is split up with $1.83 billion for the CDC,

59:22 to fortify domestic public health systems, to improve Ebola readiness, to procure personal protective equipment, to increase support for monitoring of travelers, to control the epidemic in the hardest hit countries in Africa by funding activities including infection control, contact tracing, laboratory surveillance and training, all kinds of really military type stuff if you look at this. And then the Public Health and Social Services Emergency Fund receives $333 million. God, I always love it when those numbers pop up. Nice catch. USAID will receive $2,000 million. This is the State Department who then of course give that to contractors, usually NGOs and other types.

1:00:07 The request includes further funding for USAID to scale up the US foreign assistance response to contain the Ebola crisis in West Africa and assist in the region's recovery from the epidemic. The USAID is the lead agency. USAID is the lead agency. Now, the USAID, these are people who are lead agency everywhere that we go and rubble on. This is the economic hitmen. Thank you. Economic hitmen. Then we have the contingency fund, etc. Okay, this morning I hear, I see on the BBC, an interview with a gentleman named Tony Banbury who is from the United Nations.

1:00:51 And I'm thinking, well, wait a minute. I thought the United States, we were saving the world. I thought that was our job. It's what we do. And we've got this six and a half billion dollars is what we do. And then this guy who actually looked him up, As I'm listening to this interview, I'm thinking about this guy has nothing to do with Ebola. This guy is a PR guy. And you'll hear how he conducts himself in this interview. And when you hear what he is the PR guy for in the United Nations, then it all comes together. really big significant improvements in Monrovia. In other cases we're still seeing significant accelerations of the disease and the more we get our assets on the ground, the more we're able to tailor our response to what's happening in different communities. We can't just look at this as one big theater. We have to attack the disease where it is and the disease is shifting and that's one of our greatest operational challenges.

1:02:10 This guy, who was my age, born in 64, a US citizen, currently serves as the Senior United States System Coordinator for Ebola. It's a new appointment. Prior to this, Mr. Banbury served as the United Nations Assistant Secretary General for Field Support. And before that, here it comes, he was the Regional Director for the World Food Program. And he is now more or less speaking on behalf of the World Food Program. When I last spoke to you about a month ago, you said that your ambition was to have 70% of all of the patients under proper medical care by December the 1st. That was your ambition. Are you still on track to do that?

1:03:01 When we last spoke about that, I'm not sure that we were. Do you hear this is a PR guy talking? You hear it? You hear how he answers this question? I try to meet it, but we have been working really hard for as part of our 30, 60, 90 day plan. First 30 days mobilize resources, people, material put in place, logistics spaces, all that kind of stuff. So we could really fight the fight on the ground. Our 30 days has ended and we've done a pretty good job of mobilizing resources. Now, the next 30 days, this month of November, it's all about achieving those targets, reaching those targets. And I'd say right now, in a very kind of cautious way, we are

1:03:39 are definitely moving in the right direction. It's too early to say whether we'll get there, but we're working very hard to make it happen. It sounds like a Silicon Valley guy talking to his board of directors saying, we have lots of interested registered users signing up who haven't quite completed the registration process, but we are conservatively, these are conservative numbers by the way, looking at eight million registered uniques with a time spent per user of 352 seconds per moon calendar. He's saying nothing. But how can you do that when the World Health Organization, the United Nations World Health Organization says that in round figures you need about 4,000 treatment beds and I've seen their figures and they're only about 1,200 now. What we need to do is do our best estimation about what we need to put on the ground and then just flood the area with those kinds of capabilities. We have to carpet bomb the media. All right, let's all stop this guy.

1:04:37 World Food Program. This is what's going on. The United Nations is dumping all of this money, this Ebola money, and running it through their current World Food Program infrastructure, which includes this guy, Anthony Banbury. The World Food Program If you'll recall, certainly in 2010, but it goes back to the food for oil, is one of the best covered, most corrupt organizations in the world when it comes to Africa.

1:05:13 This is the thing that got the ex the head of the UN. I can't remember which guy his name is yeah the Kofi Annan coffee and his son his son Yeah, and what was happening is half of the money was being used to arm rebels in Ethiopia and Somalia this is well-known well covered and now we have the exact same people going in under the guise of Ebola with this big bucket of money from USAID which I guarantee you is going to become arms because, you know, hey, someone's got to buy this stuff that we're about to produce really big time. Thank you very much, John McCain. And they've taken it so far, if you Google Ebola Bob Geldof, oh yeah, everybody, he's back.

1:06:05 to raise funds for the Ebola victims and their helpers in Africa, Bob Geldof is planning a 30th anniversary of his Band-Aid hit, Do They Know It's Christmas Time. This is the... and Bob Geldof doesn't do anything for free. He doesn't do this for... and the... just like We Are The World, it was only two years that the profits went to USA for Africa. and after that reverted back to the writers of the songs. And the same with Bob Geldof and Mitch Ure, unless he does some re...unless he recategorizes that, which I doubt he will. Go ahead and look. Bob Geldof is all over the news now about Ebola and Africa. Okay, so what you're saying, yeah, I think...can I ask if you're saying the following? Go for it.

1:06:55 Because of all the players, all these same guys, all of a sudden we have these same old show-offs. Only now it's about Ebola, it's not about whatever else it was about before. It's essentially to take this huge amount of money, which you like to put into terms of thousands of millions, and you target it at this problem that's non-existent, essentially. You put people, make sure they stay out of the way as you bring in troops. And then you take the troops, the infantry, and the rest of them, and the physics, and you distribute them amongst, I guess, some rebels somewhere, and you take most of this six billion, and you buy guns and bombs and grenades, and you give it to some people to go...

1:07:42 revels in area. Yes. The front your claim is that this is a front. Yes, sir. It's just a grand contra deal. Well, you got a bunch of money. Well, instead of running it through the drug business, right? You actually just say, here's 6 billion bucks. Look what we're going to do. We're going to fix Ebola. And there's and it doesn't fix Ebola at all. It goes right to it gets right right into whoever. So another thing now the thing is who well, Another thing happened which didn't get a lot of play just to the northeast of uh... the ivory coast about all i would say uh... within the realm of guinea within the realm of uh... sierra leone and liberia a little more inland and short clip two days after mass protests forced the president to resign the people of bikini fast so we tend to the streets this time to denounce a military coup

1:08:39 So we have a little military coup going on. Yeah, temporary military coup. Yeah, temporary, sure. And it was one guy... We had not discussed the Burkino Faso thing, and I thought it was kind of interesting, and then they put some phony baloney guy in there to run the place. Exactly. Take this guy, take this guy, quick. If you take this a little bit further, we would say that... The idea is to create a buffer zone around the oil by rubble-izing everything outside so you can't get in to take our oil away from us.

1:09:18 If there was an honesty to the system, which you've talked about again, and you'd say, here's the deal. We've got this oil, we're going to steal it. And we're going to use it because we need this oil and they don't. And they're going to make money too. Everyone makes money. It's a win-win thing. But we've got to protect this oil. So we're going to... take $6 billion of your money and we're going to arm a bunch of rebels around this area and they're going to keep people from coming in and stealing the oil because they know they can make it, you know, they can sell it to them. And let's just look at the numbers. We know that about 3,000, 3,500 US advisors and consultants is what is needed to train the Iraqis to fight ISIS, ISIL, IS, whatever you want to call it.

1:10:03 I would say the same amount of troops would be enough on this physics and this big military operation of global importance, as we heard the Joint Chief of Staff say, to arm and perhaps train whoever we need to in that region. It's the same numbers, it's the same thing. It's a beautiful scam because who the hell wants to go really investigate Ebola? No, no, I don't want to be in quarantine. Yes! So I don't know who came up with it. I don't know how this came about. Kagan. It must be someone really strong. Kimberly Kagan and her brother. This is so incredibly smart because

1:10:45 You know, and everyone will just believe it. I don't really need to see any real video of someone bleeding and big blisters all over their face and arms and blood coming out of every... I don't really... I believe you. I don't need to see it. It's genius. Well, they already figured that nobody wants to watch the beheadings. Yes. So, yeah, this is a good example of eyes, you know, you could cover your eyes, cover your ears and don't see nothing. I see nothing. I know nothing. Nothing. And then this is actually a good and I like this analysis. Thank you. Because it makes nothing but sense that the reason it works, of course.

1:11:24 It makes nothing but sense and it's what we do best is rubble eyes and can keep and get oil I mean, so we do we're doing petroleum economy people don't want to face it, but we are we've made ourselves one And yeah, we can get off it eventually, but we don't need to we don't need to rush it out of it The only thing I'm not quite sure about, I think I know what it is, is President Obama keeps saying, hey, other people got to step up. You got to step up, other countries. Is he inviting them into the cabal? Is he saying, hey, if you don't join us now, then you're going to be cut off from all the goodies? Is that what he's saying? It must be. It must be. He must be saying to the French or, I would say probably he was meaning the French,

1:12:07 But I guarantee and I'm not quite sure where the next step will be. But the American public is now convinced that part has worked. We now all agree. We have a dumbed down public that doesn't want to analyze anything. But we also believe this. And you couldn't tell them the truth because they'd freak out and the political opposition would freak out. You know, the anti-oil people, the global warmists, those guys. Oh God, we can't have this. Oil is killing us. We're all going to die from climate change. So those guys, you've got the country divided into such unusual ways that you can't tell the truth to the public. But also so clear now that yes, to protect America we have to go fight the fire at the base of the fire, not the flames that are licking at the top. And it's the heroes, the true heroes who we just threw a lab coat on, it's those true heroes who are really saving the world because that's what we do.

1:13:06 That's what we do. And what we're doing is we are creating rubbleization of West Africa, all this beautiful new oil, and we're going to be arming a-holes. Right, arming a-holes. That's exactly what we're going to be doing. Arming a-holes from sea to shining sea. That's what we do. Yeah, that's what we do. That's what we do. That's what we do. So the reason, of course, we can do this at all is, is just the way we put the model together. I had a guy call me from the Wall Street Journal. He said, it was kind of, I'm probably not going to get anything in this article. And I said, well, it's about advertising because you know, this, I guess, this American life, they have a new serialized podcast. I think it's called The Serial or something. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And it starts off with a go, not a go daddy.

1:14:05 square, no, a MailChimp ad. MailChimp? Yeah. And he was flabbergasted. I said, you know, this is fantastic. This is, this is the change that is happening. He was flabbergasted? He was flabbergasted that he didn't really understand that NPR has advertised. He writes for advertising and marketing. What do you expect? They're advertising, but they can't do a call to action. But when you take this popular program and put it on a podcast, you get two things. One, you can do all kinds of calls to action. And two... John Ligato Join today. Jay Carr Yeah, you're screwing the whole NPR model because the local stations aren't getting any of that money. And this was way... I don't think he understood. John Ligato So that's what you... he didn't... he wasn't clued into that? Jay Carr No. And then I said, we don't take advertising... John Ligato Well, the new head of NPR is pulling the plug on all this stuff, supposedly. Jay Carr So what we do is we have our global intelligence network produce the program for us. And believe me, they're on the stick all the time.

1:15:05 And in our Christmas show, I'll explain to you how some of that works and how some of it could work better. And also we took the time. I at least took 15, 20 minutes to get to this point, which really wouldn't have worked unless I had John on the other side going, wait a minute, let me play this back to you, what you're saying, son. And that is also thanks to our producers and and I'd like to talk about them after I thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C Love Dvorak well in the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there and the morning everyone in our chat room no agenda stream calm in the morning to our artists thank you very much 20 watt bulb for the art for the

1:15:57 Mark of the Beast 666 on our brand new Noah Art Generator dot com. And let us thank a couple of people who have come in. We have some producers to thank for show 667. We kind of let down from the past couple of shows which were kind of celebratory of some sort. It's all downhill from here. It's all downhill from here, especially when we get into the holiday season where nobody's home. But let's thank Sir Don Tommaso DiToronto in Kettleby, Ontario, or Toronto, wherever. $424.24 to be a lead executive producer. Too many expenses lately to really give you what I think you deserve, but I'm compelled to give value for value. So here I'm donating peanut butter and jelly for the next

1:16:44 for the rest of the week for everyone. What an interesting number, 42424. Is that just the palindromer-ish that he did that? Definitely palindromer-ish. He's been big, he's been donating a lot. Yes, yeah, he's way beyond a just simple knight. And then we followed up with Sir Mark Wilson, Baronet of Glasgow, UK at $300. Gents, no need to read out if Adam got my email before the Sunday show. Read it out anyway. Yes. A request for a double helping of karma? Okay. Firstly for myself as I need some exam passing karma for my final exam ever.

1:17:21 He's graduating, so he's a student. Secondly, for a good friend who is a student giving us $300, I want to remind that to some people who give us nothing. Secondly, for a good friend who has been fighting ALS for over a year now and has been told she has six months to live, which is, she's only 22, which blows, to say the least. You know that's a 22 that's terrible. Anyway so we can get a uh... Yeah karma big time, big time. You've got karma. And double that up. Sir Andrew LeMesseny, Baron of Colorado Springs, Colorado 23456, one of my favorites. I'm feeling a little fragrant.

1:18:06 Okay. I want to get a de-douching before I go back to napping for humanity. We can do that. You've been de-douched. And I would say shower time. Yeah, wash your hands at the very least. Sir Chris J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J Barron Chris Jacob of the Baron of the Carson Valley. San Rafael, California, 2-23-33 in the morning, sir. Chris Barron of Carson Valley here. Just a quick note to thank Adam and John for all the hours of entertainment and enlightenment.

1:18:42 and general purpose karma during my training for the New York Marathon, which I completed last Sunday. Yeah, he did. I knew I was fine when my coat check number for my luggage was 33, the magic number. It's a reminder we just throw out there from time to time. A little karma there. Good work, Sir Chris. You've got karma. Sir Chris. Sir Luke Rayner in London, UK. where the pound is slowly coming down to reality. $212.12 being made redundant from my teaching job in August.

1:19:22 How do you get your year in the sixth grade class? You say let's say you're teaching. Excuse me. You're redundant. Well, who's going to somebody else teaching this class? That's horrible. It's just some funny scene, it seems to me. I've had to change my way. I listen to the show as I no longer have a commute. Yeah. So no agenda is now my cooking companion. Oh, I made twenty five pounds of cycling. Is it really 25, one show, 25 pounds? That's how we should measure the show. How long was the show? Oh, about 20 flapjacks, 20 pounds of flapjacks. Twenty-five pounds of flapjacks. The Essex season ender is the name of this event. I really appreciate the show. Whilst carrying out this task, please give me a little girl boom shot galaka karma shot to make this Sunday's Essex season ender.

1:20:13 Bike ride, a fantastic event for all. Keep up the good work, gentlemen. Sir Luke of London. Oh, thank you very much, Sir Luke. And I'm going to give him a Jarbs, a Jarbs. I'm going to give him a Jarbs Karma while we're at it. Boom shakalaka! Boom shakalaka! Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. I love that kid. And then we've got Stephanie Reese, or Rice, Reese, in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada rhymes with $200. I'd like to thank you for continuing to broadcast the best podcast in the universe. We love your show and have made it a habit to listen to it together every Sunday morning. We have a Thursday show too. We even sneaked a CD of the show into a display at a hardware store and caught some people standing there listening to it.

1:21:05 Nice. Yeah. Could I please get a birthday shout out to my fiancé Jay? His birthday will be on the 7th of November. If it isn't too much trouble, could also get a couple of clips. Okay. Two to the head. Yeah. Two year old yelling Putin and a decapitation. Oh, decapitation? That's the... Her head is gone. Oh. Maybe you have a slicing sound there. Well, no I have this and it's gone I have a I have the saw you have the saw and then her head is gone. Okay, let me do Where's the saw? This is a lot of work now all of a sudden. There's two to the head two-year-old Putin. Yeah, I got you Yeah, but I wasn't prepared for oh This happens. I'm sorry. There's something wrong with them. Oh

1:21:48 Oh, come on! It's not working. Why won't it just work? Ah, here we go. I got it. Okay, two to the head, thing, saw. I'll do the sawing underneath the whole time. There we go. Alright. It took a while to set up, but we got it done. It worked. It worked fine. So that was our show, 667 Producers and Associates, Executive Producers, Executive Producers, Associate Executive Producers. I want to remind people, we do have a show coming up on Sunday. We always come up a little short. We expected that to happen again. Hopefully it won't, and you can prove us wrong by going to dvork.org.

1:22:30 NA, channelofwork.com slash NA, or you can click on the button, you can find it there at the noagendashow.com and noagendanation.com websites. Two quick notes. One, there's a brand new No Agenda CD out, it's called the Numerology Disc. Link in the show notes on the PR section. You can also go to noagendaCD.com. Ramsey Cain all over that. And I got a new healthy surprise box. Did you get one from John? Ah yes, and I will say the dried crunchy mangoes should not be. Oh I love those! Mine are so hard you'll break a tooth. No, I agree. I had a couple that were a little too crunchy. No, I threw them out. Toothbreakers. I love them. Well when you break a tooth you won't... I already ate them all.

1:23:10 There was another thing that was no good. No, there was some good. There was no kale. I was a plus. And then they had some raisins from Syria or something. I haven't tried those yet. It's not that creative. I love the, what was the potato chip? There was a chip thing in there. There was a vegetable chip. Yeah, it was good. Those chips. But they were just, but they were like Ruffles averages. Yeah, but that's why they were good because they were healthy. You could feel the healthiness, but it tasted bad. You know, it tasted like bad. But generally speaking, it was a good box. And I got a note. Adam, thanks so much for watching the news for all of us. You're so good at it. I know these words don't carry the gravitas to compel you, but I suggest that you take a few moments every day to deepen your breath and slow your mind. You have so many thoughts crawling around up there. Give my love to Mickey. I look forward to seeing you next time I'm in Austin with Love Joe. Is he telling me that I'm sounding a little kooky?

1:24:02 Silly Goofy kooky. Oh, kooky. Well, you're supposed to sound kooky. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's right. That's a protect message Richard Richard has good handwriting and Message. Yeah, you'll know what it means. Yes. Okay, you can take that to the bank to vorac.org Slash and as John said we also need you to go out there and help us propagate our very important formula Our formula is this we go out and We hit people in the mouth. Shut up! Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave. Just a funny interlude? Yes. A little funny interlude. I've been keeping my- I have a new section in the show notes called Banky Blunders. Thanky Blunders? Banky, Banky. Banky, like Banky Moon? As in Banky Moon Blunders, exactly. Okay, well that should be filling up quickly. Let's see. This was- this- everything that is wrong about this guy

1:25:13 And I've asserted before this is the wrong guy to be the Secretary General of the United Nations because you can't understand what he's saying. And you can dupe the guy into anything. And they duped him into appearing on stage with Conchita Wurst. What? Yes, you recall Conchita Wurst. Yeah, Conchita Wurst. Yeah, the winner of the Eurovision Song Contest. Yeah. So it's the dude with the dress. Yeah. He's got the full... With the beard. Or you could say it's the girl with the beard, whichever way you want to look at it. And who has absolutely no message.

1:25:51 Yet Banki is gonna stand up there and introduce her and and and quote her even Eurovision drag diva Conchita Wurst met UN chief Banki Moon in Vienna to call for an end to discrimination based on sexual orientation Ban announced the extension of same-sex benefits to all UN employees saying discrimination has no place in the United Nations I stand strong for equality I hope all of you join our global free and equal campaign. He sounds like one of those Howard Stern crew members, doesn't he? If you close your eyes, you think of some crazy drooling guy on Howard Stern show. It sounds like it. As Conchita said on the night of victory, I quote, we are unstoppable.

1:26:47 As Conchita said, we are unstoppable. I dream of a future where we don't have to talk about sexual orientation, the color of your skin, your religious beliefs, because this is not important when it comes to society. Of course it's important for the human being, but it's not important for society. What? Come on, people. That's the United Nations. Yeah, that's at work. Yeah, and then he went up I'm not gonna play the clip, but then he went on to make a mistake and he talked about no I'll play the clip I love listening to this guy. It's hilarious. Thank you. Here's the guy Let's take a look at this objectively because all you guys are making fun of This poor man who doesn't speak very good. This guy is the head of the United Nations It's his job is to communicate to communicate. He should be taking intense English lessons and

1:27:45 every day until he speaks perfect English because that's what he's getting paid for. We are unstoppable, unstoppable as Conchita said. He's the head of the United Nations. He should have some, he should take personal responsibility for self-improvement here. He's in Vienna with Conchita. I bet they had a dinner too. Where is Vienna? What about where is Vienna? What country? I would hope it's either in Virginia or Austria. One of the two. I think particularly President Fischer and government of Australia for their generous... Australia?

1:28:23 Was he was there a Vienna in Australia? The Google okay, but now I'll play the rest of this clip. I assume he's not in Australia No, he's in Austria, but he says Australia and then and then he realizes his mistake when so at the end of his speech Then there's a question that comes up and then he's going to correct his mistake. And listen to how the president of Austria, or prime minister, president I think, how he responds. There doesn't seem to be a Vienna anywhere in Australia. It's a contribution always to the goals and objectives of the United Nations. Yes, thank you Australia for being unstoppable. Can't you die like your beard? How do you think the international community, including Russia, should react to this election? Thank you.

1:29:07 Before answering your question, which is a very good question. To your question, ladies and gentlemen, I'm told that inadvertently I recognize Austria as Australia, I think. Sorry for that, but I think you know that there is no kangaroos in Austria. You make a joke, son. Bunky Moon son. And it was very funny. And now listen to the president. Funny guy. Listen, sometimes this happens. I hope you understand. I hope you understand, Mr. Minister. That's OK. We know you're a douchebag, an idiot. That's all right. We're just we're just here for the chicks and the hookers. And we're all here for the same reason, Bunky. No one's doing any work. We know what we're doing. Hey, by the way, did you see that Conchita's worst?

1:30:02 Elite. Maybe it likes beards on women. That's possible. If it was just... Bunky moon, bunky blunders. Can't cheat a worst. I mean, please. It's insulting. It's also insulting on so many levels. Stupid joke. Refers to a worst, refers to a sausage. And worst as in worst. I mean, there's just levels after levels of insults. Of huge, just hilariousness. I did see, speaking of international douchebags, there's the Luxembourg documents have been released. I don't know if you... a couple of people started emailing this to me starting yesterday. And this is the... oh, I call it the Luxembourg leaks, I guess. Luxembourg, very interesting country, of course, really being run in the background by Junker the Drunker, Jean-Claude Juncker.

1:31:02 And lo and behold, would you believe that some of the largest corporations in the universe, such as Pepsi, IKEA, the list goes on and on, have been, Federal Express, have been funneling their money through Luxembourg with help from who are the, what's the big, the big PricewaterhouseCoopers. And then they get these love notes or comfort letters, I think they're called. And they, I guess the way the scam works is you open up a bank in Luxembourg as you call it the IKEA bank, and then you lend money to your own corporation from the IKEA bank

1:31:48 which is really only part of a licensing deal. And the way it all ends up is you wind up paying no taxes. And then you shuttle that money through Ireland and the Netherlands and everything's perfect. And then get to spend it freely. Yeah, exactly. And, uh, and, and, and. Scams are all over the place. Yeah. But this is the ICIJ, which I was unfamiliar with. It's the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists. Never heard of it. Yeah, it seems sketchy to me. I see I see IJ.org. And when I looked at this outfit, the only thing I could think of was, hmm, there's someone's trying to screw somebody and they're doing it through this organization, this ICIJ, who had a global network of about 185 investigative journalists in more than 65 countries. I've never heard of any of these people and who they work with.

1:32:45 And it seems like it's like a mainstream media kind of death star or something. But they've come up with a really cute video, one of those hand-drawn things which explains how the scam works. And of course the scam is perfectly legal, I'm sure. You know, everything is just legality. But it's being played up really big and I'm not sure exactly why other than maybe to screw one of the other countries. Cause Luxembourg, it's only the half, what is it, half a million people live in Luxembourg? It's all banks. You have 2000 banks at one address. Yeah. I just wanted to put it on their radar because I'm not quite sure. The other shoe has not dropped, I guess, in this. But of course, you know, we really don't know anything here in America. I was watching CNBC. Now you'd think CNBC would know a little bit about Europe and money and stuff.

1:33:46 Am I oversimplifying my my did you get that clip the guy the idiot? Joe Kernan with the with the CEO of IDA is that the one you're talking about? No, I'm talking about the one where the guy goes. I don't understand why Ireland is not using the pound that guy that's the clip Yes, guys, what an idiot Joe Kernan who has been on CNBC for decades he's there with the IDA which is that is it the Irish I think it's a part of It's like the Irish investment. Yeah, so it's some Irish financial operation. So he's there with the CEO. Not Northern Ireland, Ireland. Well, I have the clip. Play the clip. And it's flabbergasting to hear how these guys who are supposed to know money and world affairs don't even know the simplest thing. What has the weaker euro meant in terms of tourism?

1:34:37 Yes, so I think Ireland is a very globalised economy, so we look to what's happening here as much as we do to what's happening in Europe and we look to what's happening in global terms. You have pounds anyway don't you still? We have euros. You have euros in Ireland? We have euros, yes. Why do you have euros in Ireland? Strong recovery. Why wouldn't we have euros in Ireland? He thinks that Ireland is a part of the UK apparently. Yeah, obviously he does. I'd use the pound. No, we've had the euro for some time and we're very happy with it. What about Scotland? I was using Scottish... Scottish pounds. Scottish pounds. They use sterling. They use sterling?

1:35:13 Yeah, they're part of the UK douche is starting, but we use euro What I don't why would you do that? Why wouldn't we do that? Why didn't Scotland? No wonder they want to break away. We're not he doesn't even know Scotland ever hear that vote thingy They were doing Kiernan. Did you that pass you by that they were doing that? right next to We're very close, but Entirely suffers as you know same island isn't it? And in the north of Ireland they have starling. They do? What? Let him play, let him play. What happened in Northern Ireland? It's just too confusing. But has it helped to draw people over with a weaker euro? Yes I think it has. Tourism numbers have been extraordinarily strong actually this year and but particularly from North America so it's a nice place to

1:36:03 to come and visit. I think that's, you know, we have some key attractors. Northern Ireland's the pound. Northern Ireland's the pound, yes. Oh my god, you guys gotta get it together over there. You gotta come over, hang out. You were just there. I was in Scotland. Oh, you've been gone, right. Yeah, absolutely. I would encourage you to visit. We can show you, I think, quite a few firms in particular come and visit. Northern Ireland want to get away from the... Yeah, they want to go with them. I don't know. That's too confusing. Northern Ireland should be the one not using the pound. I'm not sure I follow your logic. He doesn't even know the basics about Northern Ireland.

1:36:41 He doesn't know that Northern Ireland is part of the UK. He thinks that Ireland is for some unknown reason. He can't figure out why they're using the euro. And if he knew anything, he knew the Irish left in a revolution, not by a vote, from Britain. And when they left, they started their own banking. And they would never have anything to do with the pound. They hate the Brits. And so what is this guy? Where has this guy been? And he's on... Scotland apparently golfing. Major, you're right, he's on CNBC as one of the experts. Yeah, that's what you get. That's beating the public, whatever, I don't know, it's just, it's beyond me. That's what you get. It was embarrassing to hear that clip.

1:37:20 Embarrassing and then he kept up with it and that idiot the guy that brought the guy was sitting there was the New York Times Ex-New York Times guy can't remember his name just so he was it was very poor broadcaster. He's always stammering and stutters like me and he He never jumped in to say hey, hey you cuz you could have stopped him. I don't think he knew But apparently nobody knew, but you should have stopped him early and said, wait, hold on a second. I think you're confusing Northern Ireland and the UK. Ireland is a separate country. It broke off in the 20s or years ago and it became its own country. It's got nothing to do with the UK at all and they don't even like them. And it's a tax haven and they got nothing to do with England. Why would we make you think that they did? You should not talk anymore. It's pathetic. Anyway.

1:38:04 And they all have computers in front of them. And they've got, it may be someone in the control room. Ah, Joe, shut the fuck up. Shut up, shut up. Northern Ireland is part of UK. They had, you ever hear of like the Northern Ireland, like war and beating people up? Ever hear that, Joe? Shut up. No, none of that. Yeah, you'd think so. That's actually what it should be. Then they all have IFBs. Everybody on that show. And there's absolutely no reason for them to do this, yeah. Okay, in 1937, they put together a constitution. So it was when did they break away? They were removed from Ireland, was declared a Republican under the Republic of Ireland Act of 1948. The state had no relations with Northern Ireland for most of the 20th century. The Irish Free State in 1922. War of Independence, okay, that's when it began. Anyway. Oh well. Yeah. Sterling, what? Why don't you guys get it together? All right, what else you got there, Johnny boy? Okay. So we had a Halloween.

1:39:05 Now, every year there's a scare story. When I was a kid, it was needles and razor blades that people would put in apples. You heard this too? That when I was a kid, I was gonna do that was my kid's story. Yeah, my kid's story too. Razor blades and apples don't bite into an apple because it could be they've because you know like the and not just not like a Mach 3, no. One of those old disposable razors. There's old blades. Yeah, blades. They bite into it. Yeah, and needles. Yeah, don't buy needles. Which of course I'm convinced was put in there by the packaged goods company to make sure that you would eat more Mars bars. That would be no agenda thinking. Yes. So I've got a question for you because now times have changed. So Halloween surprise part one. An eight-year-old girl goes out trick-or-treating and comes home with a lot more than candy. Andrea Borba is in Hercules tonight. Andrea?

1:40:06 Well, Liz, every year police officers warn parents... Stop. Yes? Okay, I cut it off before they say what it is, but part two explains it. I don't know why... But there's seven more seconds. Maybe it's on there. Oh, well, play the seven seconds. ...to go through their kid's candy stash before they eat it. This year in Hercules, that phrase, more than just lip service. And that's where it ends. Okay. Okay, that was the tease. Do I have to answer... You have to guess! Okay. So they have to go through... You can one guess. One guess. Modern. Modern. Modern. Modern. Modern.

1:40:43 Do I get to... can I ask a one question before I... You can ask one question I may or may not refuse to answer. Is there... are they blaming a group for this such as ISIS or Al-Qaeda or anything like that? That would be better. But no, is the answer. They are kind of in a vague way blaming a group. Yes. I'm going to guess... Rat poison. Hit it. That's not pixie stick sugar inside that pink baggie, it's meth. A dad who was going through his 8 year old daughter's Halloween candy. He called Hercules PD, who knew? Hey mom! I'm really productive right now mom!

1:41:30 That wasn't candy. Pretty instantly. I mean it's something that we see a lot in the Syrian Meth in Petaluma. The dose was only a tenth of a gram but more than enough to harm a child. Big enough to either use via snorting or injecting. Pixie Stix, lovely. Of course it's the... Joke Brothers! You know they're behind it.

1:42:12 Wow. I would have to say yes to that. That's great. I knew you wouldn't guess it. No, no, not in a million years. Well, talking about this, Pixie Stix. Really? And where was that in California? Was that your local house? Yeah, it was up the street here in Hercules. Don't go near that house on the hill. He says he's got $100 bills, but he'll make you eat the Pixie Stix. Now, meanwhile, there was a drug-related explosion in Concord, and there's a product here I want to ask you about, because you might know about it. I've never heard of this. Okay. Fire investigators believe the explosion was caused by two people living in one of the condos who had been making honey hash oil. It's made partly with marijuana plants, and butane is used as part of the process to make it. Butane, of course, flammable and combustible gas.

1:43:03 And fire investigators believe that's what caused the explosion. Yeah, we've had a couple of clips about this in the past. This is the big, I mean, it's making hash oil. I don't know why she added honey there, but making hash oil. Oh, I thought they said honey. What was it? Honey hash or something? Honey hash oil is what she said. Yeah, honey hash oil. I never heard this. Yeah, we've talked about it where people... I know they blow, I guess it blows up. Yeah, you can blow stuff up. Yeah, if you don't do it right. People use the butane to make a... I don't know how you'd even make it. I have no idea. I mean, it's an extra... Obviously, the butane is used in an extractive process, and then you just, you boil off the butane in the process, and then it blows up if you're not careful. Yeah, it's like if some people... These guys have got to be half dead. I mean, I don't know how you could get away with this because no matter what you do, the butane is going to go into the air, and it stinks. It's got an odorant in it.

1:43:49 We have many producers who have responded in the past. I think the Denman is the one who responds the best. Da Denman. Da Denman. He makes this stuff, you know, if you know what you're doing and a moron, you can do it. You know, it's like, yeah, you can also have an alcohol still in your basement and that can blow up. You know, there's all kinds of stuff, but it's just more fear mongering. It's like Pixie Stix. It's like Pixie Stix with meth. Which I think would be a great way to market it. You know, with like little skulls down the side? Pixie Stix. Yeah, you know you're one. Hey, so a lot of people finally caught on to this bullcrap meme, but I tracked it back to the source and I did want to bring this to our attention. This was one of these anti-Putin memes that was...

1:44:37 That was, um, the headline was pretty much because Tim Cook is gay, Russians tear down Steve Jobs monument. What? You didn't hear this? No, I missed this one. Huh. Okay. That's funny. Well, so it's a good one though. I had to say that. I'm going to read you the beauty. Yeah. I'm going to read you a couple of these, uh, of these headlines. This is going back a couple of days. There was this giant iPhone in front of the, uh, in St. Petersburg in front of the college and this is from, I'll read you the Globe and Mail, citing the need to abide by a law combating gay propaganda, ZEFS, that would be the, I believe the spokesperson for this university said,

1:45:24 in a statement on Monday that the memorial had been removed on Friday, the day after Apple CEO Cook had announced he was homosexual. Quote, in Russia, gay propaganda and other sexual perversions among minors are prohibited by law, ZEFS said, not a person, but ZEFS, noting that the memorial had been in an area of direct access for young students and scholars. After Apple CEO Tim Cook publicly called for sodomy, the monument was taken down to abide to the Russian federalists. He did? He publicly called for... you just made that up. No, I'm reading a quote. Now, here's the cool thing. And this is what I think is important. And gadget. Just so you know what your tech news is doing, people.

1:46:06 Steve Jobs memorial dismantled in Russia because of Tim Cook's sexuality by Chris Velasco. Hello, Chris Velasco, moron. After Steve Jobs died in 2011, a Russian holding company called the West European Financial Union, or ZFS in Russian, erected a big iPhone-shaped memorial statue that told visitors about Jobs' life outside of St. Petersburg College. An innocuous tribute, no? Nothing about the memorial itself was intrinsically troubling, but it's been recently dismantled all the same because of two reasons. First, EFS is looking at the act as a way of condemning the company for allegedly spying on users across the globe and informing US security services about them. The second reason, however, sits on the fence between mind-boggling and patently offensive. In accordance with a controversial law meant to curb gay propaganda,

1:46:58 ZEFS took down the statute, quote, to abide to the Russian federal law protecting children from information promoting denial of traditional family values. Seriously? These people are... And this guy goes on and on. What's interesting is that the... I wanted to find out where this came from originally, because we know in Gadget and Globe and Mail, they just copy-paste journalism. It's actually a crime these people are getting paid to do their journalism. This comes from Reuters, John. from a Reuters report. Okay. Written by, filed by I should say, Katya Golubkova, Moscow, Reuters. A memorial to Apple Inc founder Steve Jobs has been dismantled in the Russian city of St. Petersburg after the man who succeeded him at the helm of the company, Tim Cook, came out as gay. Everything that has been extrapolated in these other bullcrap copy-paste journalistic stories comes from this Reuters article.

1:47:59 I find that to be the real news here. Now, of course, this has been deconstructed. This is not real news by any means. We've discussed this for seven years. This is what goes on. Right. But what is happening is now RT, of course, came out and said, hey, this thing was broken. They were taking it down because the touchscreen didn't work anymore. It was slated to be taken down six months ago. It was completely unrelated to the Tim Cook coming out. Yeah, I know that would make sense. It sounds more logical. Right. But shame on Reuters! Reuters, how can you believe anything Reuters says if they're publishing this? We have identified Reuters as an agency for MI6 and some other intelligence agencies. This is not news to us. No, not to us. Of course not.

1:48:49 But I want people to understand that Reuters is at the bottom or the top, whichever way you want to look at the pyramid, and then you get all these little... What's this boy's name again who wrote this in Gadget Crap? Chris Velasco. Yeah, that's very much written like a good April Fool's gag. Oh, you should see Chris Velasco, his associate editor. And his picture on Engadget there has him with shades and rabbit ears. Yeah, that's about what you should be wearing, dude. Oh now you got me looking, damn it. Chris V-E-L-A-Z-C-O. G-E-L? Victor Echo Lima Alpha Zulu Charlie Oscar. Look at his picture. Yeah, that's about all you deserve, dude.

1:49:40 Copy-paste fools on you. How can we believe anything you say now? He's copy paste from from compromised Reuters tech news. I was making some comment. Yeah, well, did you see it? You see this picture? No, I got the right spell his name, right? I got some other guy. How do you spell it again? Victor Bellas to me just spell it to me. Don't give me the code V V what oh, I just closed it. Okay V E L Z Z C. Oh Okay, that's better all right now. I go to yeah, you don't have to be like an idiot well Okay, images code indeed and just he's Chinese and boys Asian something like that, huh?

1:50:32 There's a picture of him with two lemons in his eyeballs. He's a goofball. A total goof nut. That's what you do. That's today's model. We've gone over this. Nobody gets paid enough to do anything more than what he did, so I'm on his side. You're sticking up for him. I'm sticking up for him. Nobody gets paid enough to do any more than what he did. He didn't run the Reuters article full cloth. He took it and rewrote it, the article completely, and made some comments like, these guys are a-holes for doing this, assuming that what they did was, you know, RT probably covered it properly. That's fine, that's fine, that's fine. Okay, fine. Then let me give you some actual tech news that happened. We don't need to play our tech news jingle. Mike Rogers, who is Admiral Mike,

1:51:22 You know who Admiral Mike is? I think we've talked...this is not Mike Rogers, the congressman who's gonna be a DJ. No, there's DJ Mike Rogers and then there's Admiral Mike Rogers. Yeah, I remember Admiral Mike Rogers. Admiral Mike Rogers replaced their Kaiser at the National Security Agency at the NSA. And he has made a point, every six months he goes to Silicon Valley to go sit in an auditorium and talk and have little group sessions with the tech leaders. I'm surprised you were not invited, actually. I don't get invited to anything like that. I'm surprised you were not. I'm not a tech leader. I'm not a C.E. Schmo. You know who was in the front row? Scoble.

1:52:15 Jeff Jarvis, close enough. And I only found this one YouTube video. He was at, this is at Stanford and he's on stage and the woman who I think is his press agent asks him a question. I cut all of that out. And the question is, is when you find a vulnerability, or a zero-day exploit, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to, like we know you have done in the past when Der Kaiser was ruling you, we're going to keep that and exploit it so you can spy on people? Or are you going to share that? And I think he made a revelation here, which to me was, what? Really?

1:53:05 So, I make two points. The first, what I tell the team as the new guy is let there be no doubt that... Hold on, you gotta listen to how he's talking. What I tell the team as the new guy, let there be no doubt... The fundamentally strong internet is in the best interest of us as a nation and the world around us. Secondly, in terms of how do we strike this balance, the president has been very specific to us. Hey, look. Hey, look. I was gonna say this again. Hey, look. The president came to me and said, hey, look. Hey look! Does the president now say, hey look? I wouldn't be surprised. And he's also a lip smacker, this guy. Hey look!

1:53:58 There are some instances in which we are not going to do that. And the thought process as we go through this from a policy side, as we make this deliberate decision, the kinds of things we tend to look at are how foundational and widespread is this potential vulnerability? Who tends to use it? Is it something that you'll generally find in one particular nation state or a particular segment? Or is this pretty wide across a large swath for the US and for others? How likely do we think others are able to, likely to find it? Is this the only way to potentially for us to generate the insights? Now let's think of a really important thing that happened not too long ago. A big exploit that was discovered by... Oh, that's kind of in question. It may not pop to mind immediately, but he's gonna let us in on it. So Jeff Jarvis could hear it. Another alternative here that we could use.

1:54:56 Those answers then generally shape, so what? Do we decide, hey look, we're going to share this? Or do we decide not to? Again, by orders of magnitude. This guy's creepy. The default mechanism for us is we share the vulnerabilities we find. Okay, here it comes. Much of it you will never even hear about. You look at in the immediate aftermath of heart bleed, for example. The first media reporting I saw said, hey NSA knew about this vulnerability and has been exploiting it against the US for an extended period of time. Wrong. This first was outed, if my memory is right, on the 7th of April, first that we were aware of it. On the 8th of April, within 24 hours, using our information assurance mission, we developed a patch, a counter to the malware, and we shared that with the private sector. Wait a minute.

1:55:51 Now he's saying that they discovered heart bleed? What ha- Google guy who discovered Heartbleed. What happened to that phony baloney cyber security company that discovered Heartbleed? Do you remember that, John? Vaguely, but is that what he's actually saying? He's kind of a humbler. Yeah, but what he's saying is they discovered it, then they shared it with the private sector, which to me means he told the Google guy and the malware guys, hey, we got this, go ahead. You don't have to... Listen. And what we said was, you don't have to tell anybody this came from NSA. Just do it, because it's part of our mission. It's that information. Oh, you didn't have to tell anybody it came from NSA. Yeah, you can just say, you can just take credit. And they took credit for it. Oh, that's low. It's getting lower than whale poop. A guy took credit for an NSA... Uh-huh. Oh, brother. That hasn't been reported. Jarvis must have blogged it.

1:56:50 Jarvis is not going to poop on Google because Google are the guys who said remember that was the guy who oh I discovered this and then at the same time the what was the name of that other company that discovered it yes it was some security company we've never heard of since or before I'm gonna look at it right now yeah let's look it up this is funny Wow yeah what was a hard the guy from NSA is out there and When it comes to online security, Neil Mehta puts his money where his mouth is. The Google security researcher boosted a fundraiser for online privacy tools, blah, blah, blah, by donating the $15,000 reward he received for helping to expose the heart bleed bug. The freedom of the press. Isn't he the guy who just took over one of the divisions? Oh, that may be. N-E-E-L Mehta. Could be. Oh boy. So this guy's just a phony.

1:58:00 Yes, that sounds like Google. Yeah, and you're right Jarvis isn't gonna say anything about it because it's Google related Neil Meta What was the name of the company that I'm trying to also took credit for it? Yeah, they were the same they actually so now we found it first. No we found it first bolder exactly Researcher researcher, I can't find it. So hmm. Maybe chat room can help out. Yeah NSA and say Interesting though. They immediately told everybody. And then he said, but you don't have to credit us because that's what we do. He busts them. That's hilarious. Don't trust the NSA. That's the message that we're delivering right now. Well, there's more to that. Oh my goodness. And this is also, this has been reported, but I would say not in a big way. Let me just go to it here. This is, hmm.

1:59:04 This is Mike, no, I'm sorry, not Mike. This is the Kaiser. Turns out, so his financial disclosure forms, you may recall that the NSA said we cannot give you his financial disclosure forms because it would threaten national security. Now we're going back, you know, a year or so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to threaten his security. Well, yes. It turns out he was investing in a company that was about to get a big deal with AT&T, which was specifically for AT&T's contract with the NSA for some spy shit that they were doing.

1:59:49 and he was investing in the company. Yeah, which you can do legally by the way. Yeah, it's disclosed, you just have to not ask for it. Just don't ask for any disclosure. It's sickening. This is what they do. I've said this for years. The only reason you want to spy on the whole country, so you can listen in on these conversations with two big venture capitalists, get on the line and listen to them talk about the deal they're going to do and then invest in it. It's insider trading to take into the ultimate. I mean, this is like... And it's legal. And it's, yeah, because they've made it legal. That was another great thing President Obama did. He made it legal? Yeah.

2:00:37 Yeah, well, that was the whole thing. The business we're not in. Yet another business... If you did that or I did that, the SEC would be on us and they'd be threatening jail time. They threw Martha Stewart in jail. Comey, no less. Our new director of the FBI. He threw Martha Stewart in jail. Yeah, he's the director of the FBI. He threw Martha Stewart in jail. Well, this is going on. Yeah, but nobody really cares. Before we take our break, I'd like to do a little bit of Agenda 21, global climate stuff news. if you don't mind. I'm all in on it, yeah. It's even though it's earmarked for being a crackpot, apparently. Who said that? This apparently this is what they're saying now. Who's saying that? The media. Oh, if you're against, if you say it may not be true. It's just a document, doesn't mean anything. Crackpots all think they're trying to, you know, enslave the public. Well right now the meeting of the elders is taking place.

2:01:39 And what organization is this? Oh, you don't know about the elders? What's the elders? Oh man. The Mormons? No, the elders, chaired by Kofi Annan, our friend from the World Food Program, is an independent group of global leaders who work together for peace and human rights. They were brought together in 2007 by Nelson Mandela. And so it is Mandela, Kofi Annan and Richard Branson who run this drinking club called The Elders. You got to go to the elders.org. I'll tell you who's in it. Mandela, Kofi Annan, Jimmy Carter, Desmond Tutu.

2:02:20 Yeah, because I saw Richard Branson tweet, on my way to the elders conference. Oh, that's where you got it. Independent global leaders working together for peace and human rights. Peace and human rights. Yes. Look at all this. This is douchebag central. But it's all about climate. And there's a held head of guard, Connie Hedegaard. Europe's climate deal is a huge achievement. It's time for the rest of the world to match it. And this is the big push now. Jimmy Carter. Yeah, yeah. So here is a Kerry, Watermelon Head Kerry. Now I don't know if he got the memo or not. Let's try to get in this group. Oh no. I would like to be a member of the elders. You can't.

2:03:06 Why? Why can't I? You can only become a bunch of racists. Yeah, ageists. No, you can only become a member of the elders if you were an important person who no longer is an important person. Let me, can I be very clear? Let me just mention what makes an elder from their own side. Yes. Rita can be a peacemaker with decades of experience mediating and resolving conflicts. That would, that would, that would be you and I, I think. Yeah, I think so. The peace builders who have helped post conflict societies to heal wounds and rebuild. I think we've been healing Heidi from day one. Yes, I think we've been healing a lot. The social revolutionaries who transformed their own countries by reducing poverty, improving the status of women. Hello? Wait a minute, why is it in the status of women only?

2:03:50 or champion non-violent struggle. Yeah, we don't qualify for that. Pioneering women. There's a bunch of women things going on here. What about the pioneering men who have governed their countries and led international institutions? No. No. Spearheaded movements to empower women. And this is started by a man. This is pretty presumptuous. An elder is also... Wait a minute, I'm looking at this. Man, man, man, man, woman. Man, man, man, man, woman, woman. Man, man. It's all men. An elder is also a change maker. Someone who can lead by example, create... I have one of those things you clip around your belt. I'm a change maker. Change maker. Change maker. Click, click, click. They're great, by the way. I think they meant they're fresh maker.

2:04:37 Isn't that the... what... how do they work? How do the elders work? What can we do? We open doors to gain access to decision makers at the highest levels. We listen to everyone. No matter how unpalatable or unpopular to promote dialogue. Oh yeah. I hate Kofi Annan. Kofi Annan's rancid. creating space for campaigners and policy makers. This is their big thing is climate change. Richard Branson, Peter Gabriel. Yeah. Oh yeah. Of course, Peter Gabriel. Of course. The change makers. Tam Omidar. Oh yeah. Omidia, yeah, always a big part of this. The wife of the Omidar guy. Yeah, they're all in on it. It's a big club.

2:05:20 Anyway, so while they're over there drinking around and talking about climate change and how other countries better get on board, I mean, someone's got to rein in Kerry. He was in, I think it was in Paris on his way to getting his hair done at Hillary's place. I don't know what he was doing. Fence 24 people just rag on him when they do their debate. And they should because he says stuff that is so moronic. I mean, OK, so maybe you're all in on climate change. You want to motivate people, right? And you want to motivate them to reduce carbon emissions, plant trees, don't use coal, don't use... well, we shouldn't use gas either, but I mean, don't, you know, just reduce, reduce, reduce. That is what the mission of a changemaker is. Would you agree?

2:06:12 I, besides making, besides having... Yes, just for the point of debate, yes, absolutely. United States and China are the two largest consumers of energy. And we are the world's two largest emitters of global greenhouse gases. Together we account for that roughly, you know, it's about 45% and climbing, unfortunately. So we need to solve this problem together. Okay. That, so far he's got me. I'm feeling good. We are the indispensable nation. He represents the indispensable nation. We need to change this together. What can I do? What, it's what we do. What can I do, Secretary of State Ambassador Hair Kerry? Why? Because neither one of us can possibly solve it alone. What? Even if every single American bike to work or carpool to school,

2:07:08 or used only solar panels to power their homes, if we reduced our emissions to zero, if we planted each of us in America a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what? That still wouldn't be enough to counteract the carbon pollution coming from China and the rest of the world. Well, fuck it. Well, then screw it. Well, fuck it. Rev up the diesel. I don't care. What kind of messaging is this? It's not very good messaging. The guy is an idiot. Well, I think we've concluded that some time back. But not quite as big an idiot as Christine Milne of the Green Party in Australia.

2:07:50 A little noose. Green party in Australia is one of the worst. Very, very funny though. And I love this. This is a Sky broadcaster. So of course he's going to crap on the Green Party no matter what. But it makes it all that much more fun to listen to. For the Greens, they're issuing their own warning today, which perhaps didn't quite go to plan. Here was Greens leader Christine Mill. Do you want death or do you want coal? That's what we're talking about here. Tony Abbott wants coal. Coal is not good for humanity just as Tony Abbott is not good for the planet when we're talking about global warming.

2:08:34 Well, renewable energy or death. We'll wait and see if there's a clarification later on. Death or coal. What an idiot! That is the dumbest thing... Oh man. It says to Greenwich Mean Time watch. Hey, hey, hey. I can't wait to get down there. I've already received a number of emails of people offering some suggestions, ideas. They feel that three weeks maybe pushing it is not quite enough to do Australia and New Zealand. But it looks like... I told you. Yeah, well, we're gonna have to do something. We can't do it. We're gonna do Perth. So beautiful though. Just a day in Perth, just to hang out and then just because we always talk about how can we not go to Perth? You can not go to Perth. You can just go to Perth. Go to Vietnam and Indonesia and Perth.

2:09:25 No, I didn't make another trip. He just two trips. Yeah, I think Vietnam would be another different trip altogether I know we're doing Australia and New Zealand. We're not gonna veer off to other stuff. Well, you're not gonna get to Perth Well, that's what you say. They got internet then we can do the show. It'll be fine and Perth is fantastic Anyway, I need a coordinator for each of these I need I guess we need a coordinator for each province and and a coordinator for New Zealand as well. We need coordinators. This is a big trip, I don't know enough about it.

2:10:02 Yeah, it was me. I just had Lib. Yeah, we'll just go over there, roam around, rent a car, drive around, get on a train, get off. Wait, what's all this sand? We've been driving around for a couple days now. It's strange. I just go to the wine growing area. I'm thirsty. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda. Hey, hey. Well, we do have a few people to thank for show 667. We will thank him. Yes. Beginning with Greg Dar, who's in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and he came in with the memorable donation of one, two, three, four, five. It's my first donation of any amount greater than five dollars. Favorite number. He needs a deducing. Give a deducing. I'll be happy to give you. You've been deduced.

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2:19:57 As we said, Lauren Smith says happy birthday to her dad, Kristen, who celebrates today, another day older. Very sweet and nice of you, Lauren. And Stephanie Rice, Reese, says happy birthday to her fiance, Jay, celebrating tomorrow. And Sir Mark Tanner says happy birthday to his wife, Lady Beverly Tanner, celebrating today as well. Happy birthday from all your friends here, the staff and management and shareholders of the best podcast in the universe. Shareholders. Shareholders. Isis. Yay. No nightings. No nightings? No, well, we had so many... Oh, I got my phone ringing. Hang on. Oh, okay. Is it the Yeah Yeah guy? Let's see who it is. I was hoping to see some recording because they hung up before I got to it. Oh, no boy. I'm missing... Why are you even bothered? Why do you even bother?

2:20:55 Scams. Why do you even bother? I've been getting a lot of calls from some guys that want to work on my house. Hello, Mr. Hello, Mr. John. Yeah, John. Hey, can I talk to John please? Dvorak. Dvorak, believe me. Yeah, and I believe you. These are not the kind of guys who know that word. I follow this guy, William Engdahl. He's a professor and he I've learned a lot of my pipeline theories from he's written many books.

2:21:32 He's very pro-Russia, but he is an American scholar. And he's now writing for, I don't even know what his outfit is, journal-neo.org, I don't know what that, but I follow his writing. And there was, he wrote something that was like two paragraphs, I just, I want to read this on the show. This is all you need to know about Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, and Russia, and Turkey, let's throw Turkey into the mix. And I just want to read this paragraph because it's so simple when you view it in context of the fear that is being thrown at us of all these terrorists, etc. In 2009, Assad refused to sign a proposed agreement with Qatar

2:20:55 Scams. Why do you even bother? I've been getting a lot of calls from some guys that want to work on my house. Hello, Mr. Hello, Mr. John. Yeah, John. Hey, can I talk to John please? Dvorak. Dvorak, believe me. Yeah, and I believe you. These are not the kind of guys who know that word. I follow this guy, William Engdahl. He's a professor and he I've learned a lot of my pipeline theories from he's written many books.

2:21:32 He's very pro-Russia, but he is an American scholar. And he's now writing for, I don't even know what his outfit is, journal-neo.org, I don't know what that, but I follow his writing. And there was, he wrote something that was like two paragraphs, I just, I want to read this on the show. This is all you need to know about Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, and Russia, and Turkey, let's throw Turkey into the mix. And I just want to read this paragraph because it's so simple when you view it in context of the fear that is being thrown at us of all these terrorists, etc. In 2009, Assad refused to sign a proposed agreement with Qatar

2:22:23 that would run a pipeline from Qatar's north field, contiguous with Iran's south Pars field, through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and into Turkey, with a view to supply European markets, crucially bypassing Russia. Assad's rationale was, quote, to protect the interests of his Russian ally, which is Europe's top supplier of natural gas. Instead, the following year, Assad pursued negotiations for an alternative $10 billion pipeline plan with Iran across Iraq to Syria that would also potentially allow Iran to supply gas to Europe from its south Pars field shared with Qatar.

2:23:08 The Memorandum of Understanding for the project was signed in July 2012, just as Syria's civil war started to spread to Damascus and Aleppo and Homs. And earlier this year, Iraq signed a framework agreement for construction of the gas pipelines. The Iraq-Iran-Syria pipeline was a direct slap in the face to Qatar and of course, the reason for the Ukrainian blockage of gas proms business into Europe. That's all that...they're connected and that's all you need to know. Yeah, you know, it's kind of disgusting. I remember reading about these pipelines way before, I think around 2000... 2003 probably. In the 90s. Oh, okay, in the 90s, yeah. Well, way before we started our show and before we started the no agenda type of thinking, which is what we'll be talking about on the Christmas show.

2:24:07 And, Dave, I remember there was something before the Afghan war and all the rest, and somebody had this crackpot website saying that the whole thing is going to bust out because of this UNICAL, it was a UNICAL pipeline that was going to run through Afghanistan across here and there. I read this thing, this guy's nuts and bullcrap. And then after the war, after the 9-11 event, and then we have this situation in Afghanistan, then secretly behind the scenes, it was signed off. The UNICAL pipeline was signed off as a minor news story, buried in the back of one of the newspapers. I said, wait a minute.

2:24:44 And then you look back on it and it was like the whole this, the conspiracy that was behind these pipelines running through Afghanistan all turned out to be true. It wasn't a conspiracy at all. Just a business deal. It was an actual deal. Yeah. These are real deals. These are not, Oh, it's a conspiracy. I mean, somebody talking about our show that way. A bunch of conspiracy bull crap. No, these are just, we're just pointing. We got it here. It's on, it's on paper. There's a business deal. This is what's going to happen. One of the drug companies is pushing the vaccine thing as a profit center for this reason alone, and that's why we have things like anti-smoking vaccines and other misuses of the term. And these are not conspiracies. These are just like business deals that people aren't reporting on. Specifically, that was Jason Kalacanis who disparaged us on the Twitter. Yeah, you responded to it.

2:25:34 I did? Yes. Wow. That's worse than me not knowing I said Sank of the month. I was thinking about somebody else who did that. That was Noah's Jason Calacanis. He said, what, Corinne Dvorak? Those guys think Facebook was is set up by the Saudis and you know, whatever. Oh, right. Mossad. I wasn't thinking of him at the moment. You're right. Yeah. He said that. Yeah. Well, he doesn't, you know. Okay, great. Fine. Yes. Little, uh, get out, Choners. This Nicaragua canal is heating up a little bit.

2:26:10 Yeah, this is bound to happen. We should have...I mean, I think we kind of predicted it because there's no way that this is going to ever be a good ending. Now there's Chinese who are...so this is supposed to compete with the Panama Canal and it is a Chinese... Nice and wide and it won't have so many locks. And the good news, where they want to build this, it's a lot of indigenous people. This is good news because we can just kill them and just waltz right over them. But now the, uh, the, let me see what the Chinese would do that. We wouldn't know. No, we wouldn't do that at all. Let the Chinese do it. Then we'll take the thing over later. Yes. We let them do the work and then we go in on this cause there's terrorism and we kick them out. Employees of a Chinese company are currently going door to door to collect details on residents and property in the, uh, in the path of the canal.

2:27:07 But with the opposition to the project rising, they are now accompanied by police and soldiers with Kalashnikovs. That must look pleasant. And demonstrations are now taking place. Many of the signs the people are carrying read, no Chinos, which I think we need to start using this phrase. No Chinos. No Chinos? Yes, C-H-I-N-O-S, no Chinos. I guess that's what they call Chiners in Nicaragua. So this cannot end well. No, it's not going to end well and we're behind all the protests, I'm sure. Oh, of course. Oh, which reminds me, let's go to the Euroland for a moment. I've been tracking Hungary with the internet tax.

2:27:53 And, wow, this, so the president or the prime minister rescinded quickly. Oh yeah, let's, I'm going to cancel that to internet tax. That was a bad idea, Victor Orban, Prime Minister Victor Orban said on Friday, because the protests were in the hundreds of thousands. So I think now they're going to find something else. Maybe they'll find some corruption or something has to be found because we've got people on their feet. We got people moving. And I think we're looking at some regime change. Oh, yeah, definitely. Also, Spain, we see something being played there. I've got a clip. No good. There's this news of a Google tax. And here is Spain implodes on Google tax. I don't know. Whenever I see some Internet thing and the government's in trouble, I'm just thinking, OK, what are we doing there? What do you have on Spain?

2:28:49 I don't have anything on Spain. I have stuff on the EU. Oh, okay. Good. And this is underreported and I thought this was peculiar and I think this is just a part of my grand vision of what's going to happen in Europe, which is a fantastic civil war. Fantastic not being here. Do we have Germany attacking France again? Is that the usual? No, but we have Britain. Listen to this. Britain and the EU. I did not know that they were taking this that seriously. A warning from Angela Merkel. According to unnamed sources cited in German weekly magazine Der Spiegel, the Chancellor will no longer fight to keep Britain in the European Union. Britain is inching closer to quote a point of no return. This says Prime Minister David Cameron's party says it would try to cap intra-EU immigration if re-elected. Following the Der Spiegel report, George Osborne, the British Chancellor of the Exchequer, says Cameron will press on with limiting immigration from the bloc.

2:29:43 The ruling Conservatives are facing increased electoral pressure from the anti-EU and anti-immigrant UK Independence Party, or UKIP. A first UKIP MP was voted into Parliament last month. For Merkel, imposing a quota on EU citizen migrants would interfere with one of the fundamental and non-negotiable principles of the bloc. Would you like to see our V2 rockets? I thought that was an interesting clip.

2:30:27 And it hasn't been...it's underreported, obviously, in this country. They're like, who cares? But it's just maybe something's gonna happen here, which of course would split the...you know, the British to have the Commonwealth. They don't need the EU. And they were...apparently, Mimi's best friend is in town. She lives in Cornwall. And I chatted her up a little bit. And of course, I...she's not a no-agenda thinker, so she's gonna say... She's a 60 year old woman. So? Yeah, she's very hot. Thank you. And when she hears this, she's going to know that I said that. She's not going to listen. These women don't listen to the show. You know that Mimi posted a picture of her when she was really young? Like in her 20s? Yeah. Oh my God. You dog. No, no, she was a... Sexy! Yeah. Whoa, smoking hot. Yeah, it tends to fade.

2:31:20 Anyway, so just for you guys. Yeah, it's like it's like a crap paper. She's not going to listen to the show. Not there you go. Not after this. She's not. No, she won't. Anyway, she doesn't listen to the show anymore. She used to listen to the show and she I don't know what happened. Doghouse meet Dvorak. Your Mimi's great looking. Yeah, she is. She's a great looking woman. Can I finish what I was gonna try to say? Which is that this is separating out the Brits, so the French and the Germans will just be fighting amongst themselves till civil war breaks out, and then England will have to come in, and they'll have their asses handed to them, and we'll have to save Europe again. That is what's going to happen, it's gonna happen around 2020. 2020, I thought 2017 was the date. 2017 is the collapse of the economy. And that's the global economy.

2:32:14 Well, it's going to be our economy too. Yeah, it's going to be global. It'll be global. We have this thing because now if you look at... It has to be right after the election. The US election in 2016. Okay, right. Because if you look now, we have gold falling significantly. Silver is like down 40%. Oil is down. I mean, at a certain point, Doesn't all this work against us? I mean, I think not even the New York Times is jokingly writing about how Kerry went to see his buddies there in Saudi Arabia and said, hey, hey, Sheikh, you know, hey, royal dude, why don't you screw everybody up with the prices here? Let's, let's screw Putin a little bit. Let's, let's bring this down. But won't that eventually start to ruin our so-called magical fracking oil that we've discovered because it just won't make

2:33:12 sense to pull this stuff out of the ground? I mean, isn't this gonna, isn't it a spiral that cannot end? No, the frackers are gonna get, take it in the shorts, there's no doubt about it. But they, you know, we don't really like fracking. The only reason that fracking's been going on as long as it has, if you want to play this, fracking as a campaign issue is because the fracking lobby has been pushing both sides of the aisle by giving him lots of money to shut up so nobody says anything. As the price of natural gas in America will rise, Republicans are intent on pushing this priority. Cory Gardner, one of the Republican Senate candidates to won last night in Colorado

2:33:51 He's made this one of his top initiatives, and Republican leaders have signaled this is at the top of the list, along with the Keystone XL. Now, of course, when it comes to Democrats and fracking, right up to President Obama, they certainly have not distanced themselves from it. As someone tweeted last night, one organizer wrote, it's rough when you decide to throw a lot of people under the bus and then expect those same people to get you into office. Sure. The Obama administration has also been very close to the natural gas lobby. I've done stories showing that the main lobbying group for the fracking industry, America's Natural Gas Alliance, ANGA, has actually provided dark money to the Democrats as well. Former Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley

2:34:39 Or current—soon-to-be former Governor Martin O'Malley received funds for his own dark money group from ENGA, the natural gas lobby. Democrats have raised money from natural gas interests. Actually, in Colorado, the Democratic Party, one of the reasons for their defeat Last night was that the Democrats there were very divided over the issue of fracking. An effort to place a ballot initiative that would have allowed local cities and municipalities in Colorado to ban fracking fell apart, and part of that disarray really helped Republicans. So Democrats have been very divided on this issue, and they have not been shipped. Shipped? Not been shipped? Okay, I didn't know that.

2:35:25 Yeah, this is a corrupt. It's corrupt. Right? So we're corrupt government. I'm just looking for you. I want you to look in your crystal ball, man. I'd be, I just want you to help me out here. Where's this going to go? Where you cannot have this. Everything's fake. The price of gold has got to be fake. The price of oil has got to be fake. It's all rigged, right? It's rigged. And of course the stock market keeps going up, which means come on suckers. Keep putting money into stocks. Well, the idea with the stock market always seems to me as you get the thing up so high, this is a strange phenomenon, but it's always, you always see it over and over. It gets really high. Right. And then so the general public says, wow, look how high it is. I'm going to buy stock. Right. It's like, what? And then it crashes because as soon as the general public starts coming in, the smart ones. So that's 2017 after the election.

2:36:09 I think this thing is going to fly. Right now it's going to hit 18,000. No, that's crazy! That is insane. It's almost doubled in my lifetime. And it will be boosted by lowering the price of oil because that gives us cheap energy to produce more goods and services and lets people drive around like crazy. But what it also does, it will hurt the national economy because it costs money. certain projects disappear and the Keystone pipeline might be one of them because the shale oil in Canada, I think, I'm just guessing at the prices here. I could look it up. But if I'm not mistaken, if the price of oil goes below $40 a barrel, you can't extract that oil.

2:36:55 That oil has to sell for something like 50 to be profitable. And when the price of oil is 100 bucks, yeah, you can get oil all kinds of places. You could go squeeze a rock, there's some oil, I can make some money. You can do all these different things. But when the price of oil sinks down to 20 or 30 or 40, 40 where it should be, by the way, according to all the experts, including the Saudis, and they can make money at 40, apparently. In fact, the Saudi, one Saudi guy, we had this clip on the show, it was from a 60 Minutes, he said that the Saudis can make money at 20. $20 a barrel, they can make shitloads of money. So explain this then, the Aramco pipeline was hit near Riyadh by ISIS, whoever hit it.

2:37:41 Is this now finally the control of Saudi? Is this a message to them? I don't know. It's a good one. I mean, we've been looking at this. Wes Clark has said Saudi Arabia be on the lookout. And now they have... This was, from what I could see, was a pretty massive strike. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe Wes... Well, you know, Wes Clark's our guy. Yeah. Our go-to guy. What he says is usually... He's our guy. Yeah. He's a go-to guy. He doesn't say this stuff just for his health. No, no fool around. He's actually telling us stuff. I don't know anyway, this situation is is just going to get worse before he gets better and it's just all leading to it's no good at the end is not no, no, you're right. What can we do to protect ourselves? Real estate.

2:38:33 Real estate. That's all I said. That's my answer to everything. Hey, you want a deconstruction of something? Of something that this is a typical no agenda thing. I'm gonna play a couple of network-based clips, and then I'd like to tell you at least where this is coming from. So I'm not going to get into the argument good or bad, but I'm gonna tell you at least where it came from. Brittany Maynard's message was clear. In her interview for CBS This Morning, she said she intended to die with dignity. So to people who would say, well, you're choosing to end your life, that's suicide. You would say no is what? No, cancer is ending my life.

2:39:13 I am choosing to end it a little sooner and in a lot less pain and suffering. Last spring Maynard was diagnosed with the most lethal form of brain cancer and given six months to live. She moved from her home in California to Oregon because of its Death with Dignity Act, which would allow her doctor to prescribe a lethal dose of drugs to end her life. really shows that this right to die movement remains controversial. Gail. I'll say Jan, thank you. Such a beautiful brave young woman. So we got a lot of this, a lot of brave and beautiful. Yeah, it's been going on for a couple weeks. And Facebook was oh so brave. It's been going on for, yeah, I was actually almost had a clip of it in a couple weeks. So much courage. I never used it. Right.

2:40:06 So I started tracking this because I come from a country where euthanasia is legal under certain circumstances in the Netherlands. And I know friends who have done it for their reasons. And I was just interested why this Why this kind of, you know, it was driven. It felt like it was very driven. And then when I saw this video, this video was produced for CBS. It even said so. I saw this video. I saw this video and it is produced. By, in fact, it's an initiative of Compassion and Choices. which you can find it, well, the slick website they have is thebrittneyfund.org. But they also have, let me find the, I'll get you the Compassion and Choices. Here we go. What's their website here? Compassionandchoices.org. And I looked them up, I look at their financial information, they got a lot of money. They have $15 million in 2012. I was like, okay. That's a lot of dough. Where is this coming from? What is it for?

2:41:11 And it turns out the Compassion and Choices used to be known as the Hemlock Society. Does this mean anything to you? I remember them. What do you remember of the Hemlock Society? They were a euthanasia operation. Right. So what really this story of Compassion and Choices, who really built this story, you know, they managed everything. The website, the videos, the appearances, they managed the whole thing. And the move of this woman from California to Oregon, which has already implemented this right to die legislation.

2:41:52 And Compassion and Choices has, also through the Hemlock organization, has tried for many years to persuade the Supreme Court to put or to find a right to die in the U.S. Constitution. Now let's just talk briefly about what that means, right to die. The way they're playing this is it is much better, less suffering, to take your own life if you know the end is inevitable. And by the way, newsflash, we're all gonna die. And of course you don't want to leave a mess with blowing your brains out, so you know, just do some medication. What is interesting when you really get into this, you'll see that part of the reason for a lot of suffering of people who have terminal illness

2:42:44 is Medicaid's policy in the United States, certainly, and we're talking about this is really a US-only issue, their policy of not providing a lot of the pain medication and pain management that people really could use as they are dying from horrible illnesses. And the thing that annoys me about this whole campaign is the Conversation Project. And the Conversation Project took advantage of a grant from the New York State Medicaid outfit. And the purpose of the grant

2:43:33 is to have the conversation, and this is also highlighted in of course this conversation, Compassionate Choices, to have the conversation which is about end-of-life treatment. And this was funded by Medicaid. The purpose of the grant to entice hospitals serving large numbers and this is the grant is in the show notes you can see it. To entice hospitals serving large numbers of Medicaid patients to test ways of reducing quote unnecessary hospitalizations and thus expenditures for end-of-life patients. And so here you have not just Medicaid but if you look into Compassion and Choices one of the large funders is Kaiser.

2:44:19 Okay, well good. I got some backup on this one. I know where you're going with this. These guys want to get the bed. It's cheaper. It's cheaper. It's cheaper to kill somebody. Right. Thank you. And then have to pay for expensive pain management medication. This happened to my... Well, there's more to it than that with Kaiser. And all these guys, these HMOs, they're like the guy who runs up. Kaiser is the largest insurer. Yeah. They remind me of Southwest Airlines. Southwest Airlines, the CEO once said, planes do not make money when they're sitting on the tarmac or at the gate. Right. They only make money when they're flying. And this is kind of Kaiser's attitude. They have

2:45:02 This was my mother when she was dying. I had her insurance packet in front of me. She was a Kaiser. The treatment was great. I'm not arguing about the quality of the doctors there. But they kept shuffling me off to these so-called social workers. And when you're talking to a social worker, you think it's like some... And the social worker's job, it seems... Is to have the conversation. is to get you, to get your mother out of the hospital into some facility that you pay for. And the facility then now they got the bed freed up and there's a your mom can go die on your dime is essentially what they That's the way I interpreted and that's the way I saw it and that's the way I think it was and do but I Luckily had my packet here. I says no she's got a she is because she was there like three days and you know She's dying literally and she's gonna die wherever she is and she had like about a week to go because she had some She was a long story. I could explain in detail, but it's not the point

2:46:04 I had the package, no, no, she's actually got, according to her insurance, let me read you from the paragraph here, blah, blah, blah. This says that she has 60 days. of care that you're supposed to give her at the hospital. And then they're, and so they said, and then it was like, it was like being in a stereo, an old stereo store where now they up, they go, they graduate me to the next level of social worker, a harder sell. It's better for you. It's better for her. And they go on and on, but I've still got this document in front of me. I'm re I've read it now completely. And I also got a lawyer.

2:46:44 who is an end-of-life lawyer out of Oakland, a very knowledgeable person. And she was telling me, don't say this, never use these words, don't say this, don't say that, don't agree to this, don't agree to that, just say no a lot. And so I was already prepped. And so she stayed in the hospital and she ended up dying in the Kaiser facility. And I would have been out thousands and thousands of dollars and it would have been just a disaster for everybody. And they wouldn't have fulfilled their agreement in their own contract of their insurance policy. And this is the kind of crap that goes on. This is obviously part of that. Because now it would be, well, if you got these smart people out there, they're not going to take their mom out of the hospital and put them in this and take them to some crazy mid... There's a bunch of names for these things. And they're all crap.

2:47:35 put her in there. Let's kill her! Well, yeah, and what they want...and it's funny because I started this conversation with Miss Mickey, and she has very set feelings about this, and I know people have taken their own, that's really what they wanted to do, but the minute you start to frame legislation around it, then it becomes very, very tricky. Because then the question is, who decides? Okay. And under what conditions? And there's been... You said okay. Did I say okay? Yeah. Well, I meant right. I meant to say right. Look, right. Okay. Hey, look. It is about who then gets to decide this procedure.

2:48:28 And there is the people who are against this type of legislation have an interesting argument that you cannot clinically or medically prove difference between someone who is terminally ill and someone who is completely depressed, clinically depressed. You cannot discern the difference between those two. And they've done study after study. So what they're saying is, uh, I think what the legislation is trying to come down to is to say, even if you're depressed, then you still should be able to sign the document. You know, and who gets to sign at what age? And funny enough, in some strange twisted way, this kind of comes back, I hate to say it, this kind of comes back to the Republican talking point of death panels.

2:49:23 But now that we have an insurance system which is so corruptly rigged and is really raping the American people, I can say this from my own experience, this is a very interesting little bit of propaganda that just very well done very very well done and Station project website is slick and so is the other one extremely slick yeah, but these people have been around for a long time They've they've been they've been at this for a while, and I believe certainly believe a lot of people are

2:50:01 I have good intentions, but most of them, you can't be taking money from Medicaid and Kaiser to fund your well, your well intended initiative. I'd say I think the optics are not so good. The optics are bad. And and I'm sorry, no one questioned this No. Anywhere. No, no, no, no. Anywhere. It's planned. Everyone's all in. So right. And it was a very successful campaign. If you look at Twitter, if you look at Facebook, you know, the courage, the courage, the courage. You're right. And people, you know, yes, but I never thought about it until now. This is a complete piece of propagandistic crap. And people were designed to benefit the big hospitals to keep the, like I said with my mother, to get the free up the bed,

2:50:55 Everybody is just a number on a spreadsheet and that's what this is all about. Okay. Now I get to tell a dead mom story for the just to even it up because I'd feel that you've been, you know, you get like dead mom. I want to do it. Can I do a dead mom story? You can do it. Anything you want. You're, you know, you, you're the mic. So my mom, as she was dying, she had everything prepared. She had a manila envelope to be opened upon my death. And she had beautiful videotape in there. No. But my mom had beautiful longhand, I think I told you I found a cookbook she'd written in longhand for me. It's just beautiful, beautiful screen. She was from the 50s, Bobby Sox or so.

2:51:36 And so she had left this, these packets to be opened upon her death. So she passed and we're all the kids are there and her second husband, Bob is there and it's, you know, it's beautiful and sad at the same time. And then, Oh, let's open the packets. We ordered pizza and opened the packets. And my mom's there. Your mom's there? Yeah, she died at home. She died at home. Yeah, it was nice. She's sitting there dead? No, she's lying there dead. Yeah, but she's been in bedrooms. Sounds like a bunch of vultures you've got. No, no, not at all. We came from all different parts of the planet to be together. Left her in there, okay.

2:52:11 This is what she wanted. Okay. Yeah. John, she had a long, painful, horrible death. Okay. So we were happy like a mover or something. No, no, no, no. And she was so clear. First of all, Adam, I want you to throw a fifties party for me, like happy days. Thanks, mom. So I had to be done that. Yeah, I did that the same week. Oh, yeah. With I had, you know, old Chevys and I had a milk. Fonzie Fonzie Fonzie flew in everything was great. It was the most bizarre thing I've ever had to do. OK, did that. But then she was very clear. I've taken out my insurance. I have everything for my for my cremation. I have everything that you are forbidden, forbidden to pay for anything else.

2:53:02 And it was very... and this was my mom. This was so my mom. And so, you know, this insurance... Dude, I'm telling you, literally at her cremation, there were three cups of coffee and three pieces of cake. And her ashes came back in a paper tube. You know, and but the whole time, the insurance people and everyone's, oh, this is a really horrible time for you. So your mother did have an insurance, but if you really want to do a little better than what the coverage is for, so they're upselling, the whole time they're upselling.

2:53:41 And I'm seeing it and I'm like, you know, God, I really want to, but my mom was really explicit. Yeah. But you know, this is not for her. They were just, they have, they have no shit. They're salespeople and they're good at it. And by the way, you're a weakened condition, so it makes it easier to sell. But we didn't do it. My mom was so specific. Yeah. But it was, it was so pathetic. Really. It was really what you get when it looks good in the brochure. Oh man. Did not look good at all. It was really really sad. It's just totally pathetic. That's fine, but that's what she wanted So anyway, so there's my dead mom story and if you have a dead mom story send it to what's our P.O. box?

2:54:24 So screw the vultures trying to make money off of killing you early. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. It's interesting. Well, I think that's a very good way to end the show. Okay, well, that's my cue. I do have one light clip we can play. Oh, stop. Okay. This is classic news from San Francisco. This happens all the time and it's just something you have to deal with in the Bay Area. Okay, here we go. Kids from all over came seeking candy. Now police wonder who may have done this. It wouldn't be easy for us to try to load this. This says San Francisco News. Oh, is that not the clip you wanted to hear? No. It says San Francisco News. Maybe if I play a little more, maybe it might be later in there, but I don't remember keeping that the segue. Well, so this was not such a great clip to end. No, no. I tell you what, kill the clip. I'll play it on the next show. It's a very good clip.

2:55:22 Okay, well then I won't put... I got nothing left. I got Weiss. No, these are all too... They start conversations we don't want to start. No, I think I agree with you. I have for Sunday, I've got one of our insiders from the Global Intelligence Network can tell us all about the Virgin anomaly. It's like a glitch. It's anomaly. And, and turns out that our CNN, remember the CNN woman who was saying, oh, they won't have another thing for 10 years? Yeah, bogus. Bogus. Bogus. Yes, our insider, our insider really did work at the, at the, his dude name Ben. How about that? I do have our buddy Stephen Cohen. No, no, no, no. Keep him for Sunday.

2:56:14 Okay, he's he's queued up already for Sunday. He's queued up for Sunday and our global intelligence network insider on the scalable Outfit there in the Mojave Desert and we'll have more no doubt No doubt at all. We continue to deconstruct. There's plenty of stuff Lenny going on. Thank goodness. I Well, it writes itself. Hi everybody, thank you for tuning in, thank you for supporting us. Please remember that we are the best podcast in the universe because of you and we need you to support us. Go to Dvorak.org slash NA. And that's how we roll. Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state, Open Carry Uberalus! In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley,

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