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00:00 Flash flash flash Adam Curry John C. Devorah October 19 2014 time for your good monation media assassination episode 662 this is no agenda searching for direct flights from West Africa and broadcasting from FEMA region 6 in the capital drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I have my siren I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning... I love that siren. This is the expensive one? Yeah, it's a real instrument. It's not an electronic sound effect. Nice. Well- I do have a surprise. I bet you are the envy of all the kids on the block. Because i have a surprise? No because you have that whistle That what this is these are you have to order these special

00:57 What's your surprise John? Uh, this is a clip. Oh! And the clip I believe... 9th joint on there... It's called Competition. Uhhh... competition alright here we go. Oh there's no winning We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh alot Now everyone hug and share a secret Yeah you found it Alright this is great oh good work Yes, it was from 2010. Oh It's almost a it sounds like five-year old cliff good work I find I got a couple I have a couple classics from that era. Oh, thank you get to later I'm so well. I have I haven't a new surprise Okay while we're at it hold on let me know I wasn't expecting to do this just now But I can do it one of our all time favorite clips is this one from dr.. Kiki already right

01:52 Yes, it's the absolute favorite. What if I told you? I have a new favorite from dr. Kiki no oh yes I'll play you the full length and leave one person could get two favorites telling ya My flu shot a couple of weeks ago nice little sore arm for a couple of days but It was worth it. So I've isolated... It was worth it! How fabulous is she? Wow, she must be sitting there just going like let me give something for the boys because hey boys here's one for you I'm gonna get um that the Dvorak and Curry boy they need something. Let's go over that clip. Why was it worth it?

02:34 The for the spent ten bucks you want I'll have the whole segment if you're really interested. I could play that for But it was she went out and got a flu vaccine okay, so what it was worth it how? Well let's listen to that clip again then my flu shot a couple of weeks ago nice little sore arm for a couple of days but It was worth it. I'm convinced she's insane! You're so right because there is no other context to why it was worth it, so her arm was sore for a couple of days but IT WAS WORTH IT!!! It was worth it. It's like, you know, it's like anal sex. You know? It was worth it! It was worth it! It was worth it... I would say the arm being sore for a couple of days is disconcerting. I never get that way. I used to get flu shots all the time and I never had a sore arm from it And I don't see how can be worth it No Besides that there was-I don't have the clip but there was a There was a woman, a vaccine person on the television discussing

03:36 what's called herd immunity. It's not individuals getting individual shots that makes a difference, in fact most of these vaccines are only about 70% effective on anyone and this is very typical but what you end up with is you get enough people in the population vaccinated you get what's called herd immunity So the likelihood of actually even encountering the virus is very low. Because it's effectively been eradicated from the herd? From the herd at that moment, with the flu of course it changes every year so you have to do this every year... But in some way I think its a gimmick. You know every single year if you do

04:21 You know. It was worth it! We'll probably get an email from her on that one I hope so I'm looking forward to that well, well Speaking of vaccines and we have a few new jingles today John as you could already guess Here's the surprise for you after multiple requests That's exactly what you wanted. Yes, it was one of the Ebola Matilda Yeah, a ball and Matilda is from this has come from Africa cause diarrhea because diarrhea One of our big donors today Robert Roberto Suarez is Robert Roberto I think it's

05:10 Oh, nice. Yeah yeah he sent a couple in He's been on kind of somewhat of a roll recently I have more if you want to hear- I got a couple more No no! I'm all game i love these things Okay this is a classic It was just somewhat ironic since when we began the show We were all against Jingle We were all against it Exactly Eeeboooowooooowoooowwww EeeeeeeeBOOOOOOOLAAAAA And then one well victim own he ain't no and then one final one Which you may not know I don't know if you know orchestral maneuvers in the dark You know like a we probably do what if when you hear the song was that a bomber yes? It was a song about the about the one that dropped it big fat daddy or whatever on Hiroshima here this boy

06:10 A classic from the 80s everybody, Enola Strange. Yes you gotta love it I think we have a Al Yankovic in our midst Oh several, better than probably because they don't need any money They just make it and put it out there and not have to live from it thank goodness Well, of course. Well then let's just get right into it since we've played all the jingles It is now I love when things just come together in between shows that doesn't get much nicer than that Whereas we have I think conclusively shown That this is a political Scare at the politics of fear is what it is what? I would call this this Ebola and The couple things happen first the president

07:18 appointed what everyone is calling the Ebola czar, which of course is... The Republicans obviously immediately pull up the czar name. I think he has an actual title which is Ebola coordinator? Let me see if I have his actual title here somewhere. You know the Republicans were demanding that he do this And the Republicans are the same ones that were moaning and groaning about all these czars he used to just threw out there. We do, from what I can tell absolutely nothing except collect a paycheck." Well the funny thing is is that this guy it this is a complete political high-ranked Democratic Party insider who has...is very famous for

08:02 elections. Yeah, the guy's nothing just this is just a payoff what I don't well besides it being yes that's a very good point because if you see how he's related with the revolution LLC investment corp which it goes back to Vivek Kundra and all these who was the guy that came in for healthcare.gov scenes zines yeah it's all these same guys it's all the same a-holes and here's Josh Earnest the contradictory contradiction in terms name dude white house spokeshole trying to explain ron klain

08:37 K-L-A-I-N as the czar, which of course is not really a Republican. Republicans! This is a fight between the Republicans and Democrats for the November 5th elections and it will become abundantly clear how pathetic just pathetic this thing really is What does Ron Klain know about Ebola? Well let's talk about... Let me restate why this person That's not answering the question. It gets worse, it gets much worse than this. Why the president believes it was important to add this person to his team. The president again wanted somebody who could serve in a coordinating function to manage the implementation of our whole-of-government approach to this Ebola situation. Situation? And so

09:28 I guess to more directly address your question, what we were looking for is not an Ebola expert but rather an implementation expert. And that's exactly what Ron Klain is. He has extensive experience in the federal government he somebody that has extensive management experience when it comes to the private sector. Is he a czar? What does his title mean? Hi, I'm Adam Curry used to be with MTV now I am a czar Oh really? Yes, I'm the Tourette's Czar. His title is he is the Ebola response coordinator. Ebola response coordinator. Here's how it goes...

10:09 Hello, Ron? Ron! It's Barack here. Ron! Yeah? Hey we need some help over here, Ron but this thing is falling apart on my ass man These Republicans they're doing all this crazy shit They're trying to F me man what are we gonna do?! Hey don't worry about it you gotta run for re- not running for reelection or anything I'll tell ya what Why don't just put a few of your pals in office Uh huh Give us some big money and we'll kick it back to you after your out We'll set you up Good deal let's get on it Click I know that there are some Republicans and even some pundits who are describing him as a czar. They're certainly welcome to do that, we describe him as the Ebola response coordinator. We describe him has a douchebag. The administration back in 2009 said that there isn't anybody working for the White House uh...that you would call a czar And we did not call him a czar again That is what republicans and some pundits call him. Republicans! Republicans! Republicans! I don't know if it's intended as derogatory term Uh yeah Maybe it is maybe some people mean it that way and some people don't

11:06 We describe him as the Ebola response coordinator, and we think that he is exceedingly well suited to the task. And he's going to report to Lisa Monaco and Susan Rice? That's correct So are they in charge of the Ebola response? The women apparently can't handle it No one asked this question and said what the women aren't good enough you have to bring in some guy because the women can't handle it That would be a great question That was what I'd say Is he gonna be... That's actually the first thing I thought charge of the Ebola response. Well, we've had the opportunity to discuss this quite a bit over the last couple days. The fact of the matter is... Fact of the matter is? Here comes a lie! Attention attention lies ahead This administration under the direction of the president is pursuing a whole-of-government approach responding to this Ebola situation. It's a situate... Approach To the situation it's a scenario it's a situation Approach what what

11:58 Duh. Notice they are no longer using the word outbreak, which the president himself used a number of times- They're no longer saying outbreak now it's a situation It's a minor fracas That means- It's a glitch Means there are very important areas of responsibility for the Department of Defense in West Africa Wow USAID and CDC have responsibilities for some of the efforts that are underway in West Africa Yes Here in this country There are important responsibilities that the CDC has For communicating with healthcare professionals Uh huh And hospitals across the country DHS has a responsibility Paul of government! How about the EPA? They should be in on this. He's responsible for performing that work and it is the responsibility of Mr. Klain to coordinate those efforts across agencies, make sure we are maximizing this whole-government approach but ultimately the buck stops with the President of United States as it always does So here's the bull crap if you bring this guy into coordinate across all...all of the agencies why is he reporting to Rice and uh

12:56 Yeah, who was the other one? I forget her name. He reported you. It was Valerie Jarrett but Rice and... Well that's ultimately who everybody reports to we know USA Today did a fine rundown on who this guy really is and they'll give you an idea of just how his job is come in and make sure that this does not mess up the November 5th elections And they have the media against them which I will demonstrate it in moment here Come on play This is pressure mounts for the White House to take a stronger stand. Oh, what is going on with this clip?

13:32 As pressure mounts for the White House to take a stronger stance in the fight against Ebola, Ron Klain will be appointed as President Obama's Ebola czar. We haven't had a Surgeon General for a year and that is a job that would have traditionally done a lot of this role so now they need somebody to come in there and step in and pull all the various pieces together. I find that true. Set up! That's a good point we don't have. Set Up! But it's a good setup. Klain has served as a top aide to Al Gore during the 2000 election He also served as an advisor for John Kerry's presidential campaign and as chief of staff to Vice President Joe Biden In 2011 he left the White House to serve in the private sector Well, he knows so many people inside Washington, inside government He is super lobbyist Inside policy community... Yeah! He knows how to make things work And that is one thing that the president needs right now

14:27 Klain's role as general counsel to Al Gore's 2000 recount committee was the focus of the 2008 film, Recount. Oscar-winning actor Kevin Spacey played Klain in the HBO movie. Because he is such a czar! Good to see you Mr. Klain So did The Best Man win then? You bet. There's no winning? You sure about that? As the Ebola czar, a White House official says Klain will be responsible for coordinating the administration's whole-of-government response to Ebola Very nice Oh there is no winning! We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh alot Now everyone hug

15:08 The big problem that is taking place right now, and I just saw in the corner of my eye Ted Cruz who have just lost all respect for on with Michelle Candy Corn. What's her name? Crowley candy no not crowley Cindy Candy Candy Crowley Candy Crowley yeah it is Crowley and he is leading the Republicans in saying we need a travel ban travel ban travel ban Now this is a problem If you implement a travel ban, we can't have soldiers coming back and forth to get new supplies for God knows what oil drilling. No no no no that's not it. We can't get the health workers back and forth. I'm sorry. You got your talking points mixed up there. The health workers yeah so

14:27 Klain's role as general counsel to Al Gore's 2000 recount committee was the focus of the 2008 film, Recount. Oscar-winning actor Kevin Spacey played Klain in the HBO movie. Because he is such a czar! Good to see you Mr. Klain So did The Best Man win then? You bet. There's no winning? You sure about that? As the Ebola czar, a White House official says Klain will be responsible for coordinating the administration's whole-of-government response to Ebola Very nice Oh there is no winning! We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh alot Now everyone hug

15:08 The big problem that is taking place right now, and I just saw in the corner of my eye Ted Cruz who have just lost all respect for on with Michelle Candy Corn. What's her name? Crowley candy no not crowley Cindy Candy Candy Crowley Candy Crowley yeah it is Crowley and he is leading the Republicans in saying we need a travel ban travel ban travel ban Now this is a problem If you implement a travel ban, we can't have soldiers coming back and forth to get new supplies for God knows what oil drilling. No no no no that's not it. We can't get the health workers back and forth. I'm sorry. You got your talking points mixed up there. The health workers yeah so

16:02 So the president did an off-the-cuff little news thingy there with, I think the new woman from Health and Human Services. And just because he says this, I want to play it again quickly. We've seen some progress in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea but we haven't seen enough. Increasingly, when I talk to these world leaders what you're seeing is a recognition that... Hello! World leader number one? Do you recognize we need some- yeah. The sooner we control this outbreak at the source in West Africa the less our people are going be at risk You know this really bothers me actually when he

16:45 Says this yeah, I've been calling world leaders and I said to the world leader as I said why don't you tell me who you talk? To angular Putin but we're not those two give it a hem on van room boy Barossa. What world leaders did he talk to? Bunky moon the guy can't rise. Yes, exactly I think more and more of them are stepping up although It's I think taking a little longer than it should And that's something that all of us should recognize don't understand why he keeps saying we have to recognize That not everybody or some more and more are stepping up and by the way The term stepping up and on my team reminds me of someone you and I both know a pathological liar

17:29 does what a flower does. Yeah, and he would use these exact terms yeah we need to step up and that was always to me it was like a signal saying you're full of crap whatever you're saying is a lie and just giving people... He shouldn't be saying that should be raising the bar Okay, you got me on that one. Excellent! Now here he is trying to get something going and he has a real problem with this Republican call and I'm telling you...I have heard people say this it has been so effective mainly from Obama bots

18:06 who are saying, oh we have to quarantine these countries off. We have to have a travel ban and of course there's no direct flight really from any of these West African countries which is... No that guy that got into the Dallas game is from Belgium! Which is the fallacy and the joke of it all but for whatever reason and of course this is for the health workers, the president really wants trying to nip this in the bud and he's got almost the entire press corps helping helping him with it. Here is his call to action about, hey this is crazy man. Everyone advises me and my world leaders and my friends and team have been stepping up and advising not do this. One issue that I want to address because I know this has been a topic consistently in the news is the issue of a travel ban. Yeah its going to hurt the election so let me talk about this we don't want this to become the talking point for Republicans for the election.

18:55 I know that you've heard from some public health experts about this, but I want to make sure that everybody's clear about the issue. I don't have a philosophical objection necessarily to a travel ban if... What does that mean? A philosophical objection? I didn't know it was a philosophy! Is it a health issue or something...? Let me see if I got a book of Hegel here let me start reading through and see if there was anything about travel bans in his thinking. Philosophical? Why would he say philosophical? Because it's not about your safety, ladies and gentlemen. It's about winning the elections and this thing backfired or they weren't ready for it or the Republicans figured out a strategy and you are not in any danger whatsoever. It is very difficult I see people... Mickey who was at Saturday morning when we wake up she says it's unbelievable even though

19:49 I understand the take you guys have on it and i feel safe, even living two hours or a couple of hours from Dallas. NPR was so non-stop hammering Ebola, Ebola, Ebola, she had nightmares about Ebola! She's not sick like the rest of them! So just imagine Obama says, You don't need a travel ban. Their brains are exploding, people's minds are frying! It is too late the fear has already been set in with popular culture and movies The people are freaking out for no reason. You have to back up a couple of steps and see why this happened because Ebola has been... Ebola has been brainwashed about Ebola for about 10-20 years ever since it first came out of the labs in the mid 70's

20:39 They started talking about it as this horrible thing that's in Africa. And we've had all these movies, you know like Contagion... what was the one before? Outbreak. Andromeda Strain or whatever. Right. Outbreak. Ebola. Movies and they had to blow kill everybody. And this is what you hear on NPR about Ebola. It is scary and wretched and miserable! It is gross! Yeah Yes, my favorite scene and everyone probably seen this in at least one movie I think I've seen it in a couple different movies the guy is in the containment area and something breaks and either he drops a vial or The guy that's in the bucket jumps up And the other guy catches this whatever-it-is like anything within five seconds catches the test blows off

21:28 His eyes start to bleed, he's like... glass. Going my god help me! And he's up against the glass and his ears and eyes and mouth are bloods gushing out and the guy drops dead on the spot within like 15 seconds of movie I think this indoctrination started when i was a kid with Donald Sutherland in Scanners Do you remember that movie where they would be like AHHHHHH their heads would explode if you caught it So I was curiously just reading about the special effects and scanners because they had, this is one of those movies by that. Was this your Saturday night reading? Yeah! So I'm reading about this thing and they had nothing but trouble with the guy's head blowing up at the end of the movie or there once point where they blow them all up and they're all sitting at their desks in the dais or whatever and their heads blow up. And so they have a copy of the guy's head that is kind of filled with blood

22:18 A copy? Like a 3D model, what is it?" Yeah. No, that's not his head. It's a model and they... But it's like some sort of rubber they can pump up with air and then make it blow up. And they said was so cheesy over and over again, they could never get the thing to work. So the special effects director, the way he finally did it, he says we're gonna get a slow-mo camera put on the guy fill that phony head with a bunch of blood and guts and then take a shotgun, blow it off the chair, and just blow his head with the shotgun. And that's how they did that scene. And when you think the low tech version, you'd think these guys could do better beheading videos by now. It's so easy just a little spaghetti in a balloon could get with it. They want to hire the people who know what they're doing. All right let's continue with the president with his huge philosophical issue That is the thing that is going to keep the American people safe The problem is that all of the discussions I've had thus far

23:18 experts in the field, experts in infectious disease. Let's not name any of them. Is that a travel ban? is less effective than the measures that we are currently instituting. If we institute a travel ban instead of the protocols that we put in place now, history shows there is a likelihood... What history? Do I have a history of uh...? When has this ever happened before?! He's talking about a history! I think it's the Spanish flu he's referring to? History has shown... Of increased avoidance readily disclose their information. They may engage in something called broken travel." Broken travel! It has a term, they may engage in something called broken travel. It's called a non-direct flight

24:08 There's no non-stop flight for most of these countries. Hello? Essentially breaking up their trip so that they can hide the fact that they have been to one of these countries where there is a disease in place as a result we may end up getting less information about who Has the disease, you know you think with all this these non databases and everything we do for terrorists We could track a couple Africans. No no broken travel may occur can't track them They're less likely to get treated properly screened properly quarantine properly and as a consequence Now I continue to push and ask our experts whether in fact we are doing what's adequate. I don't want what's adequate! Why does he say ade-? I don't want adequate, what's the absolute top of the line... What does he mean by this?! I don't want adequate. I don't want adequate. I don't know what's adequate. I don't want adequate. I want this guy where is this guy? There isn't need for rescue mission when the world is threatened, the world needs help it calls on America

25:17 And that's the story. And we're adequate! Doesn't adequate mean like the bare necessity? Yeah, it's like adequate. It kind of gets the job done... It gets the job done kinda So the call went out to all the friendly media and we have some examples of them Hey! We know how the call went and don't even have to do it. We need some help. We need to discredit this travel ban because the Republicans are gaining traction

25:58 And now we have Ted Cruz on the Cindy Candy Show and everyone's freaking out. We need, you know... He's like Goldman Sachs' wife? He's a lawyer he's a smart guy the Republicans love him! We have to snip this in their butt Let's start with ABC Good Morning America HELP! being sick thus far does speak to how hard it is to contract this virus. Yeah, it's not an airborne disease and that's why some who are calling for a flight ban they're saying that's not going to work because this has only passed through bodily fluids back-and-forth but there's a great corrective to all the fear and in some cases panic out there. Which you were all apart of you morons everyone was like oh crap now we blew it now everyone's afraid let's go to MSNBC quick Abby Huntsman help us out help the press

26:48 How did you know we've been having a debate in this country around whether we should ban all flights to I haven't had any debate in this country It's a debate in Washington between the Republicans and Democrats. You douche West Africa, you have a number of Republicans that are saying oh here She is with here it is Proof this is only about the elections now. We move into talking about politics Why haven't we already done this? We are now in this situation and the president said last night look, we are not banning flights for A number of reasons will keep monitoring it where do you fall on this debate well from the side of the Democrats, of course First of all, it makes no sense to ban flights from the Ebola affected countries. We don't have any direct flights. Why didn't anyone say that to the president when he was saying Mr President we don't have any direct flights? Shouldn't we like... Shut up! What's your fuss?! Shut Up! I'm from Guinea Sierra Leone or Liberia but if you think about

27:37 if your neighbor's bathtub was leaking and it was running into your house? Here come the analogies. And this is talking points, this 100% talking points. It's a good one. If your neighbor's bathtub is leaking John and it's dripping into your house what do you do I'm calling the police. paint rubber walls? What the hell is that supposed to mean and who wrote that?" That was Touré, the Rolling Stone reporter who thinks he's a journalist now. Touré. Rubber walls...rubber wall...now you have to fix the problem! You gotta help your neighbor! No we call the police of course absolutely! Call 911!

28:30 Trust me, 90% of Americans would call 911. That's how dumb we've become. Really the way that we are going to contain Ebola is at the source and really a travel ban or even talking about a travel ban is counterproductive because what we need now is a surge of health workers. Talking about it as counterproductive? Yeah because it gives the Republicans and a leg up! What do you have in your mouth I'm listening to this thing and eating some craisins. Craisins? What is a craisin? By the way, that was the last one i just ate it Oh you didn't share with the class what is a craisin? It's something as a raisin with some... cranberry dried cranberry

29:15 Because what we need now is a surge of health workers. Who's gonna want to go if they can't come back? Exactly, and so this is actually going to make it much tougher There there's your health workers They can't come back the health workers can't come back Let's go to Charlie Rose! Charlie's always good when we need him on CBS there with Gail Help us out Charlie take into the politics brother So they want the answer I don't believe that there's still hope in the focus groups that I do The level of anger and cynicism And just absolute disrespect. But does that kind of atmosphere play into the hands of people who want to call for radical answers? I mean, who will push for the most conservative... in terms not of Democratic or Republican but most toughest measures possible in terms of quarantine, inspection and all of that

29:58 I think what it encourages is maybe the most conservative but also in some sense is the most liberal. What it calls for is people to go out there and make grand promises. What happens when you have trust this low, you need a series of trust building exercises in government to create small incremental benefits This guy is literally talking about the elections Charlie Rose starts about Ebola they're talking about the fact that current administration and just government in general has very low trust issues including the president He's got it. It is out now discussing it now Yes, and here's great CDCs Frieden on the hill being grilled by Republicans Of course have you had conversations with the White House about a travel ban trying to catch the smoking gun? We can get this guy come on. Let's see if we can get him

30:42 That's a yes or no question. Oh, it's a yes-or-no question! Will he answer with yes or no? I don't think so We would certainly consider anything that will reduce risk to Americans Yeah of course you're all part of it everyone is running interference and here is the final one on the morning joke Another MSNBC, this is pretty incredible. Said the morning joke guy they've got the Brzezinski child And then they bring in a guy from Huffington Post. Since when did Huffington Post become an authority on anything? They got their start by stealing stories from everybody else! They're still stealing stories... Yeah So who is Sam Stein, is he a well-known reporter? SAM STEIN! Sounds like a... MAN ON THE STREETS It sounds like a DJ name. No, Sam Stein, west of New York maybe And Sam Stein takes it to the most ridiculous level

31:47 Which I think is, I have to give him props. I think- Sam Stein having the post. Political reporter based in Washington who used to be at Newsweek before it folded into New York Daily News You know, I was trying...I was trying to look at a Newsweek story today on my...I have a Nexus 7 2012 version tablet which is that's the year you want to have by the way 2012 where they cut out some good stuff And you bring up Newsweek and you try to scroll down the page, and it keeps flashing back to the top because it's trying to JavaScript these full-page takeover ads. I hate you Newsweek! I can't...I will never look at another Newsweek article again because of this idiocy. You people are stupid. Alright listen to Sam Stein with a

32:39 I think this is the explanation i would run with because because i believe the president can actually sell this to people who are moronic enough to believe in it and i think that's probably more than half the country. I'm not an expert in this area, i just want somebody to give me a I'm not advocating a quarantine. I am just asking... Sam's going to take a crack at this. Okay, take a crack, Sam because you tried last week and you were wrong but go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. That's a good shift guy. All right. Go Sam! The nexus of the problem with Ebola is not in America it's in West Africa and until you get the situation in West Africa under control we will never be actually out of the woods with respect to Ebola so when you look at a travel ban you have to look at it holistically what does it mean? Holistically?! We've got to look at it... Now I think that

33:33 What does that even mean? I think it's well, it's along the lines of philosophically and I think when you say something It's another pathological liar word. We've heard people use this holistically all the time. I've heard people use it in sales meetings And I've seen very so-called intelligent venture capitalists go, oh yeah. Yes let's look at this holistically. When you look at a travel ban, you have to look at it holistically what does it mean not just for America but for West Africa and basically every health official maybe with a few exceptions has said that if you do travel ban it may in fact help America but would make the situation

34:10 I want you to hear his point. No, no but i wanted to hear what was that person somebody said something? Now I tried to isolate that five times and it's the Brzezinski child saying something to Joe... I listened okay I must have tried to isolate she's whispering something that I think was interesting I could not figure out Yeah, believe me I tried. But thank you! I'm glad you caught it. It may in fact help America but it would make the situation in West Africa a whole lot more complex and a whole lot worse So this is what I think the strategy should be if they were had hired the Curry Dvorak consulting group...I would say you need to tell people that yes a travel ban might help America a little bit but it would really hurt Africa and I'd believe people's yeah you know what we need to help Africa

34:57 And we could all change our Twitter icon to the continent of Africa. Bloody eyeball! If you do a travel ban in that country, people in that country will panic There will be political panic and there'll be social panic In addition people in that country will still try to get out of that country even though there's a travel ban You can't prevent them from trying to get out of the country even if you have a travel ban Then it becomes a question of okay let's say someone with Ebola did try to get out of that country and they did go to Europe and yet we stopped him in Europe from going to the United States. We still then have to trace who their contacts were up until that point, and if you have a travel ban and they're going underground it becomes a lot harder to trace their contacts so yes you might help the situation in America but the situation in West Africa is exacerbated and made worse I think its bold one but I think of the president came out said we're not just about ourselves in the world we are America! We are the indispensable nation

35:51 So, we don't just think about ourselves. We don't want to implement a travel ban because... ...we want to help all children of the world including the children of West Africa." That would work! I think you could sell that. I think it's easier to sell, "...We Don't Have Any Flights To Africa!" Well there is that. Then, this is very interesting The president did an his podcast, all about Ebola of course with all kinds of facts. I'm not going to play the whole thing but there was this interesting alert-alert-alert which came...I think this was Saturday? The president's podcast is typically done on Friday so they could have known that this was against all rules. This happened in Washington DC big frightening because you know

36:44 It's never happened in world history before where someone has had to puke because they were riding on a bus. If you can take a look down this street here, we're on Virginia Avenue Southeast on Capitol Hill You see this white tour bus? This bus left Pentagon just a few minutes ago A passenger got off of that bus and became ill in the parking lot and threw up The bus was able to leave. Do you know what this is like news he talked about on the At school in the yard. Hey man, do you see that guy? He puked yesterday after getting off the bus Now, now it's somebody got tricked your car sick being in a bus. Now it's national news. Let me finish this is interesting Pentagon and got here but by the time I got here health officials had this bus detained now what I can tell you I was just about the first person on the scene here after first responders they actually thought I was on the bus as well and tried to quarantine me but what we can tell you is that about 12 people passengers and the driver

37:41 driver were taken off of that white tour bus and they have now been isolated on a second bus. It has dark windows we can't see in, we don't know what's going on in that bus I can tell you there are federal officials here there are officials from the D.C. Department of Health DC Fire has been on the scene and DC police are on the scene. Now I don't understand how this works, this is Washington D.C., you'd think that in Washington D.C not only NBC News but all of these police and CDC and who else they have on the scene would've at least watched The President's Podcast! And first step in this fight is knowing the facts First, Ebola is not spread through the air like the flu. You cannot get it from casual contact like sitting next to someone on a bus." Oh! Well what is this? Yeah no they didn't listen. Besides that's not good news I like rounding everybody up on a bus. I feel really sorry for the bulimics out there Everyone's jumping on the bandwagon big time

38:46 including John's Hopskins, Hop-Hop-Hipskins? Hopkins. Hip hop. John hip hop school of medicine Michael Osterholm is he runs the contagious infectious disease something or other CIDRAP and this guy He's looking for money And he has an incredible pitch that he did in it This was on a big stage with lots of people who control lots of money And he's just shameless about it. If West Africa was a can of gas waiting for a match to hit it, the rest of Central Africa is a tanker truck waiting for a match to hit it. Woo! And we don't quite get that yet.

39:31 And there is no plan B. No plan B! How would we fight this if in fact, this were to suddenly flare up in one of these cities? I'm gonna give you a chance right here If you know what Plan C is he does- There's no Plan B He will tell you what Plan C Is I'm curious if you can already guess What Plan C will be from the Johns Hip Hop School Of Medicine I have no idea Oh yeah You do Along the belt and equatorial Africa What would we do could We fight it on two fronts? We can't fight it on the One front Oh no! We suck And all I'm asking for is not to divert anything from West Africa, but somebody better be thinking about a plan B. Okay! Where is it? So what's Plan C? Oh are you sure you don't know yet John? Come on... Uh extermination of the continent? I have no idea Well ultimately yeah I think this his Plan C will result in that. Plan C for me is one that I think is the only hope we really have and that's vaccine

40:28 But what do we need for vaccine? We need tons of money for all kinds of terms I've never heard before. I'm convinced of it Yes, I believe this will be an endemic disease. I do believe we can have an effect on Ebola vaccines I am convinced to that and yeah really believe we can And you're the guys doing if we spend more money But there's a big disconnect between the money, the work to get us there and the money. The time it takes to get us there and then getting into somebody in Africa. Hey we got to get into somebody in Africa that sounded pretty vile And what were not doing right now? We are not basically gaming this all of time Yeah you're gaming it! You're gaming at 100% All the way through

41:10 When we're talking about a $57 million investment in the United States, that sounds like a lot of money. And I thank the United States for that. But that's shit money! Come on! That's a drop in the bucket if we're really interested in moving vaccine. In this regard actually... We need to be dealing with everything at the same time The R&D, the potential for measuring how it's going to work whether it's vaccine effectiveness efficacy however. How are we gonna make it? Where are we gonna make it? How are you gonna do finish and fill? Finish and fill! How are we actually get it to Africa will need a cold chain how that be sustained? A cold chain... We're gonna get into the Africans I wanna know that now Yeah! A code-chain Didn't he mean coal? It was.. I think he said code-chain I think he said cold

41:53 I think he said code as an insurer. No, Jane where you could we have to be refrigerated the whole way. Listen for measuring how it's going to work whether it's vaccine effectiveness efficacy however How are we gonna make it? Where are we gonna make it, how are we going to finish and fill. How are we actually gonna get it to Africa will need a cold chain how that is right now who's gonna get into the Africans I wanna know that now I just want to know who's gonna get into the Africans that sounds like fun job so what he's gone on begging for money Sam Stein again it was under really headlines a couple articles from the house poll the tango story why Ebola vaccine research came up short Obama also pushed for CDC cuts years before the Ebola outbreak. Ebola vaccine would likely have been found by now if it weren't for budget cuts. By the Republicans, of course! Says the NIH director. And I think there's one more of these along the same lines down at the bottom hang on... Yeah lawmakers try to save science funding

42:57 Anyway, yeah no this is a... It's hilarious. These guys have you know it's not as though their budgets have been cut we will say it again on this show and we'll keep saying it. It's the increase in budgets that has to happen. It's just blame for right now on CNN lower third Ebola as an election issue on The Cindy Candy Show This is so obvious. So stop, people listen to this show and I'll include Mickey She said this morning you could be wrong. I said yeah it could be You could be wrong? Holy crap! No she's no that's a valid point see what else...she wasn't saying like uh like I'm wrong She was saying you could be wrong Yeah I could but I could be wrong It could be wrong in what way That we all die from Ebola We're all gonna die from Ebola?! Yeah it's possible No its not

43:47 It's not remotely possible. It's horrible. Believe me, she's not saying we're stupid or wrong... No I'm not saying that she's being the voice of reason to trigger me to continue my research which we need you know 57 million dollars just a drop in the bucket for the research we do here at The Noah Jendishow We need to know if there is going to be a coal train, chi-coal train, cold play, green day, we need some money for this Meanwhile the funniest part of this whole thing is Ron Klain's brother

44:25 David S. Klain, who clearly is suffering from involuntary social network disorder and you can I believe this to be his real Twitter account? I'm not 100% sure it appears to be real if you go to twitter.com slash David Klain And look at this he's making it very very funny. How do you spell is a D-A-V-I-D? K-L-A-I-N and now shall read some of his tweets It was he has all my you know, why would anybody put a mock thing for him? It doesn't make sense. There's probably is him like Ron won't do this and he posts a picture of Bush with mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier. He's got 39 followers My brother will do a great job bright Barton news fuck off instabunded suck it

45:18 Our liberty freedom suck it twitchy team suck. It's every every right-wing Republican Twitter feed or publication here the Bill Heron go fuck yourself This is the guys He's not he said that he's like Roger Clinton stand up guy Idiot It's like hey David you bridge your bro Ron Mitchell ditch, dude I am about sucko lay and lay off the Twitter man for a little bit. Do you mind just for a little bit man? Just let me get in there hookah pooka Oh this is so funny this this so they bring that what's that guy's name the former ESPN reporter with the dreadlocks

46:03 who's always on CNN now. Now he's the political maven... Keith Olderman? Yeah, with the dreadlocks! The black Keith Olderman with the dreadlocks that guy you know who I mean no He's a sports guy i don't know anybody with dreadlocks offhand that's a sports guy that does announcing it's on the tv so he used to be on ESPN and somehow he became Like the Democratic spokeshole on CNN and all things black issues. Oh come on, someone in the chat room should have already given this to me by now. This is lame. Are you talking about that Cornell guy? No not him... And now they're talking- no Someone will come up with it What's the dreadlocks that have me confused Well he has dreadlocks Okay You say when you hear it go uh Grandberry?

46:57 All right anyway go on doesn't matter. I'll try to find out using the Wikipedia and in one of my search talents Hold on let me give you some search talent Wow the chat room doesn't even take the effort, they're just guessing hey You're on the computer Google something what a bunch of unhelpful people Richard Nixon yeah that would be him And so this is truly pathetic with the Ebola response... It's Bob Marley. There you go! Thank you, chat room. With this response coordinator being a political operative who runs campaigns that's what he does That's what he does This has nothing to do not need to be afraid of a single thing Really not a single thing as we've pointed out

48:00 And there's a reason I believe why all of these news channels and news programs have Granderson. I think it is Granderson, LZ Granderson that's who it...LZ. Oh yeah that comes to mind. There's a reason why the news is all in on this and why they hyped it up and then dialed it back. The hype was of course, the ratings were off the hook for these guys! I saw when CNN rebroadcasts a C-SPAN stream of the Ebola hearings their ratings were double...DOUBLE! And that was hearings? Yeah!! But now it's ratings bonanza. But now they have to dial it back because the president told them too and we have the election money coming in for the commercials so you know, we have to start adjusting everything because people do not care about staying in power or grabbing power depending on who they are They do not care about YOU

49:00 And they do not care about scaring you because... It was worth it. It was worth it. We on the other hand, very similar to another fantastic, merrific newsletter you sent out, chapeau bas again for the newsletter we do not need to resort to these tactics in fact we cannot even contemplate having advertising before we would not be able to tell you the absolute truth. Now they're getting around to it now with what two weeks to go? Could this be an election issue or those horrible Republicans, they're just hyping it up then and it's really not that bad now I think just ignore everything we said before

49:46 Well, that's a they've painted themselves into a corner. They've ruined their own credit I mean the real key thing and i'm sure the democrat strategists have been thinking along these lines These republicans could be called out for making a big fuss about nothing But now, but they can't because the same people have been pushing it themselves. And now they look like a-holes if they point this out and so so there they've been to actually literally whoever I don't hate say literally but whoever set this thing up that the Republican side set up the media too in the media. Do you think it really was that was a long game like that? No, I don't think so either. I think it was just fortuitous and I wonder...

50:31 Yeah, they did. I wonder who... Someone woke up and went, hey! I got an idea! Stupid moron. They're all just horrible people. I'm so disappointed in democracy. Let's get out of here And I'd like to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you John C. Dvorak! Well that's an interesting thing to say... As he opens up the spreadsheet... ...and I'll say to you Adam Curry in the morning to you also

51:08 In the morning to all ships and sea, boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water And all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to our chat room come on chat room human resources good To have you there uh checking us out at noahjennestream.com we have 915 people in the chat that's a lot Uh that's the stream they may be more in the chat actually No Possibly possibly adding the warning to our artists 33 timbers who I do not believe We have chosen artwork from before 33 Timbers brought us... it was, this was an interesting choice we had to make. There were many very good pieces I think Nick the Rat and Martin JJ came very close but the 33 timbers was only something we could use for this particular episode which was the Ebola survival kit with a clipboard in your regular pants and your short-sleeve shirt. I don't know that that was actually... Yeah yeah This was a very debatable one We couldn't use a couple of them for different kinds

52:07 I don't know, different kinds of reasons. It's hard to... it was a tough decision but this one was the best all around i think it worked and please always be looking at the artwork. I think I forwarded you an email from Sir Ramsey Cain? The photos! Yeah he's framed these photos a number of Noah Jenner pieces of artwork and has them on his office wall and I have to say it looks pretty smart He did a really good job whoever or whoever did the framing for him. I think he did himself Well, he's in he's a good framer because these guys they look very professional Maybe I'll put it picture of that effect. I put a picture that in the next newsletter He said so take that picture and post it let me actually there was something caught my eye Ramsey our gay crusader says LZ Granderson is the gay black sports guy just say no

53:05 That's the kind, yeah. Only our global intelligence network has this kind of information ladies and gentlemen." Well it's good to know we take it into account. We got a letter from somebody he says he got some 11 by 17 inch frames from Hobby Lobby and threw the compositions together in Inkscape you should put the instructions up for that because it's well done it looks very... He should put about how-to You could give these away as Christmas gifts or winter solstice gifts, or Hanukkah gift. Well I think it only works when there's a bunch of them. Of course! Just one lone one... It has to be a series. It's well done and i like it alot. We'll see that picture in the next newsletter

53:51 All right, let's thank a few people for this show. Yes The producers one of them is a black knight by the way it should be changed to black night for Terry Stelly in Mobile Alabama $1,000 he has a note and He's not an instant. He's an instant night yes But he's insta black knight because this actually came in yeah what? Well it doesn't happen often but this is the second one in as many weeks. Well, this is because this went into the old inbox which I only clear out once a month and so I cleared it out and there bingo boom shakalaka was $1,000 Did you just really say it? Wow that's a first for you! Bingo Boom Shakalaka Nice very very good You should try the other one

54:39 Which is just boom shakalaka? No, you know did you see that photo of the football field or whatever it was and had Boom Shakalaka has been around for a while. Boom Shakalaka's not like new It's just is new for our show I just donated $1,000 to become an instant night using Visa uh Couldn't find a place to send his note because the particular uh- Is that native advertising he's slipping in there That's what he does Well hope we get a check I just can't take it anymore. After listening to the heartbreaking dejection in John's voice on the last show, this was like a month ago... Yeah! ...I realized that guilt- I realized the guilt that I had for listening to the best podcast in the universe without fulfilling my part of the value for value model by not donating and has risen to climactic proportions hence the instant night."

55:33 I realize today, today. I realized today that i'm gonna- I think this is a speech! Oh, do we have a little uh... Do you have music for me? Yeah, I might have something for ya here yeah hold on okay Uh..I'll give you this yep ok ready I realize today that i must rid myself of my douchebaggery if im ever to enjoy the no agenda show again. So please accept my instant donation with my profoundest apologies from hence forward, I would like to be known as Sir Terry The Cheap Bastard Of Mobile Bay

56:21 I would also like to challenge my buddy John P from Lafayette, who has also failed the value for value model. Accordingly please give him a douchebag and play to him this challenge if he recants from his douche bag ways and starts to donate I will match his donations dollar for dollar until he too becomes a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. With any luck, this No Agenda Challenge will spread throughout the Kit-Donation so you guys can keep up the outstanding work." Hail Caesar! And then he wants a de-douching and a little girl yay. Oh okay... Keep the music going for a moment here as we all enjoy this

57:13 And thank you very much, sir. You've been D-doofed! You've got karma. I figured he would want it Well that's a great one Thank you very much and thank you for your prose It was beautiful Very good Dollar for dollar for his buddy And i look forward to the ceremonies later today Yeah great Okay, now we have um... okay. We have a this is an interesting one This is Christina Gilo Is this Ryan's wife? Yes And she I guess gave three three three thirty-three we need the extra penny I believe but if this is calculated I happen to have one right here Which I'll drop it obvious so she said a knight day a dame well night Dame and she sent a handwritten note But unfortunately it starts off in the morning by maybe two

58:05 I may have had too many glasses of wine while writing this. So, I have to use like a big magnifying glass to read this thing as promised here are my second and third installments for the Damehood since i play roller derby That's interesting. For the Mission City Brawlers... Fantastic! No wait, the Mission City Brawlin' Bettys The Brawlin' Bettys! Oh wow, we need a picture of all of them Yeah with the name Chrissy Bangbang Dame Bangbang Yes Did you see the picture?

58:46 No, she sent it to you. I forwarded it to you. I forwarded it to Eric he put in the email so you could see it again Okay, I'll look at him. Well should I look at it now? Yes! My attitude? Yeah your like is fantastic She's Chrissy gilo. There it is He's fantastic and see what we got here Hello cowgirl, I'm sure she could do some jamming yeah exactly Well that blocking with the elbow I didn't know the roller derby thing. That makes it even better now Yeah, I request that I be called Dame Bangbang Please give me some hookers and Molly Oh, I'll take these roller derby girls man hookers and molly? yeah, molly I encourage you to make JCD's uh mothers a re-uh recursive bit The Chinese are buying up all the toilet paper

59:52 It made me literally choke on my coffee. Finally, per Adam's compliant... I mean request complaint? Complaint! I mean requests from for my previous donation i have sent photos to Adam of me sir dh slammer and and rr are our three human resources. Hope you enjoy! So there were really cute pictures of the kids and of Sergillo with his kids, and then this picture of Dame Bangbang which is just pretty... I love it. And she says at the end here instead of a jingle request i'd like to request a rain stick jam session of appropriate length for Santa Barbara

1:00:44 Wow, okay. That's a big request! We need rain but not flash floods. Thank you for your courage and then PSJCD catches the turkey I'll address it and cook it for him Alright, so we've not had this request for a long time. I want to point out that the rain stick... Very dangerous! Yeah it's not entirely accurate. It can rain in other places as well and i don't really feel like rain in Austin but uh.. it's a request from a daydreamer. It could just rain anywhere. Ready? Yeah I'm going hit me! I gotta get to Longs Drugs and get some toilet paper because the Chinese are buying it up

1:01:35 You've got karma. Alright, well we're having nothing but fun here on the No Agenda Show Next in the morning. In the morning, Sir David Foley and Lawson... Oh man! I'm not ready for anything today this is horrible Yes where are you? Where are you? Well i'm here America hashtag coming soon Hashtag why's this thing not working hashtag please drag into the thing and oh man what's going on? Oh it's a PDF

1:02:12 I'm trying to drag it. Trying to make a PDF play. I'm trying to play in PDF and it's not working! Now Foley doesn't really say much, he sends us a cartoon which is kind of funny. It says 10th anniversary I didn't get that note. I saw it in a posting Oh, his 10th anniversary of what? Of his wedding anniversary. Oh! Yeah. Congratulations That's great. I noticed that he sent you one those little boxes. Oh yeah, you need one of those But the setup...I have to talk about the setup

1:03:03 And I can say this now unequivocally, so i bought the cable for the 4k tv. The doubler cable that Seiki makes? It doesn't work! Oh right after you told me to buy one?! Well who knew!? You said you gotta get one of these it's great that's what you said... you hadn't actually tried it and you were just- you're horrible do you forward links without reading the article too?? oh yeah okay well there you go my own fault for trusting you Well, it might work on your system. I think it's my box... My Dish Network Box has got some signals on it or something and when this thing sees the signal makes a white flash so when you plug in it looks fine but it really does the job It really cleans up the 1080p turns into 4K But then BAM! Flash! Flash! Flash! And then you watch a little bit of Flash! Flash! Flash! Flash! Huh? That's not good Sounds like your box is faulty

1:03:56 No, I think it's just that incompatible. This is the problem we're gonna have with more and more of this stuff Oh if the box is old so it's probably HDMI whatever number that doesn't have some signal And I'm gonna try it on the Roku 3 and if it doesn't if it doesn't flash on that Then I'll keep it otherwise. I'm sending it back Yeah, well I'll have to send mine back too now. Well it depends you may have newer gear than... I have a Roku 3. Well yeah no if it works on the... It should work on the Roku 3 If doesn't its goes back. I haven't connected it so but I did order just blindly based on your recommendation which now I know was... Well I went down to specs this is the problem! I keep telling people never do this

1:04:38 You published an article which you said you would do about the death of broadcasting. Yeah, what'd ya think? Oh I thought it was spot on as always What was funny is there's a ham radio forum and then you know the ham guys they're kind of nuts about... They're just nuts And they go Broadcasting not dead we are on air! It's not exactly what he means This is the mouse guy! No really? No actually posted a link to an article where you said that cable modems would never work At the time, that was very accurate. It was absolutely accurate at the time! Like in 1989 or 1995 this is 20 years ago and everything you said happened. I picked up old stuff from 20 years ago where i said well this isn't going to work because it wasn't working yeah works twenty years later... You can find articles interviews of me where I say I'll never get married

1:05:33 And you've been married twice? Hey, no. Well I'm still married thank you very much although that's questionable if you read the press. Well that's only the Dutch press nobody here gives a crap A number of people had seen this here Oh really? Oh yeah The mouse guy You know how they heard about it What douchebags are saying this i want to put on my blacklist It's an amateur radio reddit Yeah, that means it was a Macintosh guy. These guys hold the grudge, it's unbelievable. By the way the mouse will be dead eventually Oh yeah! It is already happening we have touch screens so yeah you will come around. Yeah I'll be like wow what a visionary that guy was when your dead And finally for our last associate executive producer of our show 662 Is Trevor Mudge from Ann Arbor Michigan for $200 dollars I do not have a note or anything for Trevor Let me see if I have anything for Trevor

1:06:32 You know, we don't have a very sophisticated system. Trevor's part of the No Agenda Club I believe that has been set up and meets every so often in Michigan Oh okay! No, i do not have a Trevor email Alright Trevor you got something sent to us Yeah, I don't have a Trevor email sorry Wow, okay. Very nice group thank you very much to our executive producers and associate executive producers these are the credits that are real this is the only way the show works properly so that we can explain a little bit what you had in the newsletter if people you're missing out if you're not subscribed to this newsletter

1:07:08 I have people subscribing to the newsletter who are just interested in the news, not even the content. Just the newsletter they love how they make their own newsletter They learn from your newsletter and i think you had an opening what was your title check this out? How was the open rate on that how did that happen? I don't know yet...I give it one week for total You can only do that once a year you can't like do well It's like the other couple of singers I've been working on my headlines because and I study them which is you have to do And I can do it by myself And by A-B comparisons, I'll tell you if anybody wants to know the number one draw headline ever and it's with a huge open rate. When I talk to some other people that do direct mailing... Well, I know what it is! Of course you know what it is, I told you what it was. Pictures of Adam?

1:07:51 Pictures of Adam falling overboard. A picture of you in the water, that's the one that got most people like I want to see this wet bastard in the water! For all these people who are like yeah man we gotta fight the government, fight the power save the world. Pictures of Adam falling overboard? Yeah! That's the ticket how shallow y'all are It's actually embarrassing it kind of is But a great newsletter and once again you explained very clearly why we don't have the commercial model of advertising, which I'll talk about later. The native advertising is a very interesting article that I want to read a couple paragraphs from

1:08:34 I'll do that in our second segment when we thank everybody who has come in this week with their support. Dvorak.org slash NA, you can find out all different ways to support the show and keep us on the air and if you derive some value in the five six hours of media deconstruction we give you every week most people really enjoy it because you're here in the car radio sucks broadcasting is dead so I hear I recommend people read that article. It's running in PC Magazine, it's called...I don't know what it says the depth of broadcasting or something they changed a headline little bit on me and it discusses you know the what's going on and this is the trend is obvious to me and there's one thing you could have mentioned because a lot of people say yeah but no Sirius XM this is really this is you know this is the way to go and there's a reason why it's called Sirius XM because they could not exist as a competing entity so they had to merge

1:09:30 And these satellites, they need to be replaced eventually. What are they in debt? 10 billion dollars? It's more or less the same amount of money that we're paying for our own satellite systems. model, only it's national. I mean the problem with terrestrial obviously is that it has limited range and reach but with the satellite you can hit the whole country and...but still its...you know... But you can't go indoors unless you have the indoors hook up? You have to sit in a car? That kind of a problem and it's expensive too do! Like you said satellites have to be replaced they're hard to maintain. When these things really need to be replaced I think one is named Rock and others are named Roll get it?

1:10:13 It's rock and roll up there in the sky everybody. Well, they're gonna have to be replaced and I don't think they'll be able to get the funding to do it No, I think when they have to replace that's going to be the end of it And then they look at the internet model which is what we use you look at clear channel They're also billions of dollars in debt. They own most of the terrestrial radio stations around this country Yeah, they bought them all up but had a great scheme They bought all the stations up and then they centralized the programming so they essentially fire everybody in all the little operations all over the country. And put in some central programs that were semi-designed, more or less

1:10:58 syndicated, but they owned the syndication system. So it would go to all these stations and it would save everybody a lot of money. It looked good on paper and it did. It was a money-making idea until people started listening and they said this stinks! This is a problem! Hey, this stinks! Why am I listening I just a quick PR before we move on to the And i want to thank you adam career by the way for the usb stick that you sent me oh, did You? Stick it in yet have you listened to him sorry yeah have you listened so what's on no not yet but i'm Looking forward to it after today show. Thank miss mickey for taking into the post office and mailing it Holler butt to the post office well she said i'm going to post office need anything like Oh crap the thing i promised john yeah

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1:14:50 It was worth it. Since we're talking about the newsletter, I put a kind of a snide remark in there about the Boko Haram and the girls saying they were probably tired of listening to 200 girls bitching. And so I ended up getting a clip from the NewsHour Which kind of said the same thing. Listen to Boko Haram and The Girls, this guy's from the Atlantic Council and they're discussing Boko Haram. I'm being told that the release of The Girls which is a priority of Nigerian government and in the international community will be the lead off in the talks that'll take place next week in Chad hosted by that country's president. I presume with The Girls if you look at the situation militarily operationally have become

1:15:40 burden to their captors. Moving about 200 girls while you're fighting a war, even if you've been scoring some spectacular successes on the battlefield is a burden so Boko Haram would very much like to get rid of them. Are you kidding me? Alright it hasn't happened in too long but I'm giving you Clip Of The Day for that one! That is well worth it excellent job sir. Well played So these are the guys who cut off people's heads, they shoot people, they rape and pillage. Oh no not 200 school girls bickering like oh we can't take it anymore! And of course it's bullcrap there are no girls

1:16:20 It was a studio chop job to begin with. We talked about the background being all wrong, tight shot to crop out the buildings of this so-called secret place that no one could find and where is Michelle Obama? Hashtag bring back our girls I see pictures from Nigeria with parents saying or i don't know if their parent who knows it could be bogus but at least i've seen pictures with people hashtag there are no girls Bull crap! It was just to get the financial advisors, the combat troops into Nigeria where we have a volatile government who is stealing billions of dollars worth of oil. Yes and can't have that no one wearing control ones that are supposed to steal billions of dollars with the oil really hey guys horning in on this

1:17:05 You'll play the part too because it just summarizes. And in exchange possibly demand the release and likely of some of their commanders who were captured. Just to fill in on that, if I ask you why its happening now or why it might happen now what's the situation on the ground in terms of relative strength and weaknesses of Boko Haram and the government at this point? on virtually encircling the capital of Borda, Maiduguri a city of over million people not cutting off entirely but making life rather miserable for the people there gaining territorial hold and even reportedly although it has to be confirmed shooting down an Nigerian Air Force fighter jet at the beginning of September. What is this guy talking about? I don't know. That's bull! Take out some towns around it. Oh yeah well we knew what this... did I have here ahead

1:18:03 I have a link here, cautious optimism over Nigeria's kidnapped girls. They finally come up with some kind of ceasefire... The whole thing is bullcrap! Like we predicted, bullcrap and you know while we're on this before anything else i just need to say something please do not email us anymore about Gamergate. And I'll tell you why And we've looked at this a couple times. I'd never shun... it's very difficult sometimes, and both John and I think we catch ourselves like oh crap you know? It was so obvious i should have looked at that! So if we do train ourselves to look past the obvious, to find something then there might be something behind it in this case

1:18:48 Who who gamer boys and girl the media is corrupt girls think boys are stupid boys think girls are icky whatever Oh, I got cyber bullied and threatened on Twitter get off of Twitter you douchebags If you're so worried about women in games and gaming why don't let's shut down porn? Why do we do that gamer gate porn just shut it down cuz that's all this is And I know any guy out there who was gaming look at yourself very carefully in the mirror and tell me After a couple hours of Call of Duty, World Of Warcraft you don't flip over to porn and relieve yourself because that's what it is. It's all porn! I love you but it's porn and that's what it is and get over it already who cares? I'm not a gamer John's not a gamer we have no standing in the community We don't know this about but everything I can see is oh

1:19:40 Oh, it's people are misogyny whatever threatening just stop go away. Go back to your game go back to your porn and get over yourself the media is crap huh? Did I sum that up properly yeah i think it's close enough i mean that point i made when somebody tried to get me involved in this was that Don't have like you said we don't have standing meaning We were not in the community to comment on it at this level at all and we don't have any way of getting a standing And we're not as what's the point when you look at there are other people that can talk about and let them talk about it? And when they talk about I get the same thing why did you talking nothing about someone threatening you on Twitter well turn off Twitter, and he won't be threatened me Get off Twitter. You won't have any of these good bullying problems you turned off Twitter

1:20:26 You won't be threatened by twi- it's that simple. Am I just, am I nuts? That I don't see... Not like you guys come into the door. Exactly! Now there's brick through the window. Now something did happen that i almost had in fact it took me several times until one of our Dutch listeners sent me this clip and I replied to him saying man really Yeah, he said something like you know Barack Obama is a charismatic leader. Barama? I just said barama! You did, you said barama. I liked it. Okay President Barama this might stick yeah it's Barack Obama Barama. You've heard that before you think I would have and I played this clip in the end and I was kind of going back to him saying you know this is such a dick

1:21:15 And then I played this clip again and I played it again. And went, wait a minute! Listen the president was at a signing ceremony and he talked about how his credit card was declined in a restaurant in New York which of course we know is not true. No, that can't be true why would you pull out a credit card? But its' a joke so initially I'm just like ugh what a douche bag but listen to the whole piece. Richard should mention by the way I went to a restaurant up in New York when I was there at the UN General Assembly. My credit card was rejected. It turned out, I guess that I don't use it enough anymore so they thought there was some fraud going on. Fortunately Michelle had hers. Okay. He'll be here all the week

1:22:09 Now when I listen to this again and, wait a minute. Listen to all these people who are laughing insincerely? Who are these people? Just listen again. Alright, so who are these people? No. I'm telling you these are people who are extremely happy but they're kind of like... Sign it! Sign it! Sign it! Sign it!! Keep telling the jokes can you finish signing please? Finish the signing

1:23:04 What was the president signing? Now, I took the time because these sound like people who are way too happy. The president was signing an executive order John! Uh-oh... And the executive order is improving the security of consumer financial transactions seems innocuous enough. Ah that's hence the reason for the joke That's the reason for the joke, which of course we know is not true. And let me...we've discussed this before and this will take you right into the executive order The total amount of credit and debit card fraud in the United States on an annual basis is about four billion dollars. Right The cost to upgrade all American terminals

1:23:52 to the chip and pin system used universally in Europe and other places around the world would be a multitude, a multiplier of that. Unless of course as a banker you can get the president to sign executive order... Whoa! What was that? Somebody took a shot at ya. Yeah they missed. Unless of course you can get the president to sign executive order which does some of the following things. Allow me, let me just zoom this for a second so I can look at it a little bigger... Is that as big as it'll go? Here we go. Improving the security of consumer financial transactions now this is just the executive order there's also a fact sheet

1:24:36 Given that identity crimes including credit, debit and other payment card fraud continue to be a risk to U.S economic activity and given the economic consequences of data breaches the United States must take further action to enhance security of the data in the financial marketplace Government must further strengthen the security of consumer data and encourage the adoption of enhanced safeguards nationwide in a manner that protects privacy and confidentiality while maintaining an efficient innovative financial system. By the authority vested in me as President, by the Constitution and laws United States America, and in order to improve the security of consumer financial transactions in both private and public sectors it is hereby ordered as followed

1:25:13 It's a lot of gobble-dee-gook, but secure government payments in order to better protect citizens doing business with the government. Executive departments and agencies shall as soon as possible transition payment processing terminals as credit, debit and other payment cards to employ enhanced security features. i.e., all government will now use government money to upgrade their terminals." Do you know what this includes John? What does the government use in all places around the nation...in many retail outlets where do they use this which is a de facto part of the government agencies and their payment processing terminals that is the EBT the electronic benefits

1:25:57 Yeah, the social security system. Correct! All done on credit and debit cards processed by JPMorgan Chase or they were done by chase The Secretary of the Treasury shall take necessary steps to ensure that Direct Express prepaid debit cards for administering government benefits have enhanced security features And by January 1 2015 The Department of Treasury shall develop a plan For the replacement of Direct Express prepaid debit cards without enhanced security features Other agencies with credit, debit and other payment card programs shall provide the Office of Management and Budget plans for ensuring that their credit, debit and payment cards have enhanced security features." John this is a bailout of the banks to ensure that Walmart Home Depot all the places where EBT cards anything but McDonald's I think maybe McDonald's even access them as well for certain types of food will be upgraded at the cost of the government. And that's why everybody is laughing. That's interesting yeah they're laughing because this is a bonanza

1:27:00 but they don't have to pay for it. And, to add insult to injury, section 2 of the executive order improved identity theft remediation... Now I'll read you a bit from the executive order then i'll read you from the fact sheet. To reduce the burden on consumers who have been victims of identity theft including by substantially reducing the amount of time necessary for a consumer to remediate typical incidents, by February 15th 2015 The Attorney General, in coordination with the Secretary of Homeland Security shall issue guidance to promote regular submissions as appropriate and permitted by law by federal law enforcement agencies of compromised credentials to the National Cyber Forensics and Training Alliance Internet Fraud Alert Systems. So when there is a cyber theft, they break in at a retail outlet all credentials that have been compromised will be shared with the government

1:28:00 Nice. That is so wrong! This is wrong, and then you look at the fact sheet who's really... this is the new Buy Secure initiative to be on the lookout for that term and that trademark around preventing... You know how I buy secure? Yeah with cash. Of course. Preventing information sharing. The president's executive order further directs expanding Information sharing. Ensuring federal investigators' ability to regularly report evidence of stolen financial and other information to companies whose customers are directly affected So they'll be sharing stolen passwords with other companies This is completely idiotic MasterCard will be providing its customers with free identity theft monitoring and credit resolution support Now this is where supporting credits score transparency They're now tying everything together with Citibank

1:28:57 Helping customers catch one of the best early indicators of identity theft, Citibank in partnership with FICO will begin making credit scores available for free to its consumer card customers. So go out and get a Citibank card please! They're promoting Citibank because they'll give you a free FICO report which is now going to be as important as your SAT scores, as important as anything. It's ridiculous I feel so sorry for everybody coming along and have put up with this nonsense Beginning in January Citi in partnership with FICO will be making free credit scores available online to consumers with Citi branded credit cards This is the White House!

1:29:38 Promoting CitiBank branded credit cards. Nobody sees this as the absolute maximized version of what you'd call corruption? And total control over your money... By Citibank! This score will be updated monthly and is the same score CitiCard uses in its lending decisions So it makes sense, if you want to get more credit You should probably have a CitiCredit card because those guys are making decisions based upon me having that product It's obscene and of course not reported anywhere. I don't see Cindy Candy or Fareed Jarkaria, I don't see anyone talking about this no one! No, so i heard a lot of bankers laughing while... just sign it just sign it by executive order all right complete bailout

1:30:28 This is the, you get a point for this one. Thank you! In fact all the other stuff as interesting as it is... ...this particular little thing because you were I don't know obsessing on these guys laughing and that has led to this discovery It's outrageous Well I believe... It's outrageous Of course its not true I believe someone gave the president the joke So the joke has been reported The joke has got legs But no one is reporting on what the joke was distracting from. The joke was distracting from these billions of dollars, I believe it will be between 8 and 10 billion dollars that's just the estimate It'll probably double that because now its government money whoo-hoo! Who gives a crap? Double bill overbill to implement this for every single electronic benefits card the EBT

1:31:24 I mean, how many of these cards... well let's consult the book of knowledge. How many EBT cards are in use today? I'm going to say that's quite a lot. No, billions. No not billions. Millions! Oh millions. How many EBT cards are in use survey says 44 million Wow That's a lot And it's used everywhere and everywhere that an agency and these are agency approved terminals that they have at these places where it's most places, most food outlets for sure take the electronic benefit transfer and they will get at least a subsidy if not a complete overhaul for free because the executive order allows all agencies, Treasury and everyone involved

1:32:22 to make regulations and appropriate funds to do these types of things. We've seen this with the climate change... The climate change executive orders have resulted in billions of dollars on an annual basis for climate change research, and vacations or whatever these people are doing. They're just raping the American public! Yeah, it's just that we're raping the taxpayer here yeah So that was Thank you very much everybody for sending me this clip, irritating me with it with this clip until I finally caught on and I was surprised by my own inadequacy of not immediately thinking wow why is this taking place? And this is what we do. Because our global intelligence news network were able to do these things

1:33:17 And also, I don't think a lot...if you look at the amount of commercials for Chase and MasterCard and Visa and American Express and Citibank. I don't think you'll see a lot of analysis of this executive order on commercial news channels and programs. No, you won't see it anywhere let's face it that might cut down a little bit of the advertising money or they might have to do a make good. There you go rape no one cares And how can we so easily put that together, yet we only have $57 million for Ebola? You know why because it's not true. It's bullcrap and there is your fact. I had to get a clip since you creep me out with this... So i didn't mean to insult you! No, no you didn't insult me the government just did

1:34:16 Here's the first part of a Viagra commercial with this creepy woman that I know there's got to be something you can take out of there maybe combine it with something, the kiki flip. Oh yes good i'll try and yeah okay but this is this disgusting viagra commercial that I just find...it just for one thing moderately attractive British woman that's probably 40 if she is a day doing this commercial staring at the camera using the word like you and your honey which I don't know when was that, the 70s? And just here play the beginning of this because it is what everyone in sports world is bitching about they do not want to see on TV. So guys its just you and your honey setting is perfect

1:35:04 But then erectile dysfunction happens again. You know what? Plenty of guys have this issue, not just getting an erection but keeping it. Well Viagra helps guys with ED get and keep an erection." Yeah it's a boner pill! Well we know that but what's the point of this woman is she selling it I mean I look at her and go gee I can see why you can't keep an erection if you got her around No offense, lady. It's honesty in advertising! It's a boner pill and instead of talking about ED or erectile dysfunction now she just flat out saying it. You are a loser! She is probably good looking and she is probably sexy? She's not sexy. I don't think so

1:35:50 Is she not milfy in a certain way? You might you might find her remotely sexy, but I found her to be offensive well of course because yeah no of course it's Offensive but it says you know. It's selling sex is telling that you are a loser Well, you have this commercial depreciate you won't like it either hmm No, I don't but I have to say at this point my life. I'm ready to try some Viagra Alright, well try some. I'm interested What it does a heart attack? That's what I'm thinking that will be it will not be a pleasure pleasurable experience No, no most guys really like you know. I'll be the guy that has the four-hour erection John I can't do this show just yet There's no blood in my brain

1:36:42 So I went back and got some old clips from four or five years ago, from our own show. And I realized that things have gotten worse even though the unemployment's gone down and all the rest even though we know the numbers are bullcrap because there was... Here is it, this clip, this is The Food Bank news story that has to, or it's a hand. This is a commercial of some sort for something that we don't even have commercials for anymore because everyone's gone. We've gone from this what you're going to play which is the food bank commercial fruit food bank clip. We've gone from this which was bad enough depression food too mac and cheese. Oh, why did you try at home cook meal with yummy hamburger helper?

1:37:27 Fantastically tasty, huh? That's good. What would you guys like? Hamburger Helper! One pound one pan one tasty meal In America 1 in 6 people struggle with not having enough food that's why I've teamed up with Feeding America and Hamburger Helper When you buy Hamburger Helper You can help Feeding America deliver a meal to the local food bank Visit this website to see how you can help Well that's the next obvious The next obvious step is to help the food bank with that craft, the cardboard and powder. 39 cent mac and cheese dinner! And now there's the Glorious Restaurant which I have the news article here... The Glorious Restaurant is that mainly in New York? They serve only mac and cheese. There's a Mac & Cheese Only place in Los Angeles too. It may be it maybe it's the chain

1:38:20 And it's all just mac and cheese. And yeah, we're going from the Great Recession to the actual Depression and it is upon us when you have this but has different stature. Mac and cheese is an American staple of poverty but it's an American staple. Yeah kale! Vitamin K exactly. Is there another bill that I caught that I thought was kind of interesting? Maybe it was just only a Texas bill let me see... No, no it's a bill in the... maybe is it Congress or House of Representatives? Yeah. This is these uh..no its the Senate Bill 2826 S.2826 strengthening forgiveness for public servants Act. I'm sorry give me the number again. S.2826

1:39:16 And this is the Strengthening Forgiveness for Public Servants Act, and this is a part of the President's push for Millennials to get them to vote obviously. You're 18 you can vote. Can you vote? Are you 18 or 21? 18? Yeah, I'm 18. So now along with your student debt which we pushed into as quickly as possible We are now going to amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to provide for a percentage of student loan forgiveness for public service employment. Oh, right! Yeah I remember this...I remember when this started going through This is Bloomingdale And Ms Warren, this is Pocahontas has her fingers in it. Oh, Pocahontas, right she had something to do with that. This was part of her thing She'll be bragging about this, you know, the poor kids look what I did If you work So this is about cancellation of your student loan debt

1:40:08 And if you work as a government employee, I got the numbers here. Two years of employment 15% of the total debt will be erased. Big deal! Four years of employment, 15 percent of the total amount due on the date the board commenced employment oh wow Oh wow? You said oh wow again. Yeah i'm sorry...I shall stop that Six year's employment as a Fed 20% of your loan And it goes up to... Wait, wait. You're telling me three years you get 15% and then six years is a total of 20 or 20 off what's left over? Let me take a look. Or it's the 20 of the total. I think it's 20 percent of the total amount due

1:41:02 Eight years... After the 15 is taken out? That may be, I'm not. Okay never mind it's probably too you had to read too much for the show. Ten years up to 30% of the total amount will be erased so this is perfect! You're a debt slave from the moment you go in and come out hey work for the government and we'll erase your debt but they erase it The way I read it is In the case of a borrower who completes 10 years employment 30% of the total amount due on the eligible federal direct loan on the date, the borrower commenced employment. Okay so all right... So whatever you owed when you went into federal employment, 30 percent of that will be stricken not the interest over the 10 years that you were in employment but still yeah that's the way I read it. The whole thing is a scam and by the way i'm going to say it again we had it's a scam

1:41:57 Well, besides that I do say that probably excessively. But I want to remind everyone that during this last Columbus Day holiday Indigenous Peoples' Day locally the freeways were cleared out and it seems as though there's not this boom that we have is not a tech boom but it's a government workers boom and bankers because the highways were clear. And it wasn't, you know I was thinking well so many tech jobs opening up. It's all coming back and we're out of the depression and then they take a banker's holiday and the next thing you know the freeways are clear but everybody that worked in tech was working! They didn't take the day off. No, we didn't take the day off. We didn't take the day off. I was working. Anyway there is too many guys... yeah. Well I don't know at some point this is going to collapse. Oh total doom you say? And its gonna happen soon

1:42:56 Our baronet Tim Tillman sent me a note. He says, the Obama joke more than meets the ear it continued the fallacy that he has nothing without his wife His wife's card worked of course because she is smarter better faster and stronger than he is Now he always defers to the ladies At the same time the joke went little further by saying his card didn't work because he never uses it followed by luckily Michelle had hers implies that Michelle uses her all the time like a typical woman Yeah, that's true. Exactly! It's a joke that fits for whatever the audience wants to hear. That's very good deconstruction of just what five lines? Yep and meanwhile everybody is laughing but we just missed the whole scamaroonie. It was nice

1:43:43 Well, let's play a little. Let's keep up with Libya I guess so we keep people up Up to speed and what's going on in that country which is falling apart of course? That's the one who be liberated thanks to Hillary's Whatever they call it sunrise Arab sunrise well, it's let me see oh And the clip begins with the letter semicolon. Yes, I've noticed the clip here. A new UN-led initiative in Libya has been announced in hopes of stopping fighting in the capital Tripoli while providing humanitarian aid. Meanwhile, in the eastern city of Benghazi, renegade Libyan General Khalifa Heftar continues his assault

1:44:25 on splinter militia groups. At least 40 people have been killed in four days of fighting there. Heftar was a former general under Gaddafi who rebelled against him during Libya's revolution, now Heftar has called on locals to take up arms against Islamist groups including Ansar al-Asiri who's been designated a terrorist organization by the US. We came we saw he died We killed that sorry son of a bitch. Good work! Oh, it worked out perfect Yeah, we got the chiners out well and that was the main... I guess we How was the oil production? And we rubilized That's why i'm looking for other things man this is crazy It's all about it's all the same thing rubilize here rubilize there right rip people off yeah Let me see what I find oh um

1:45:24 I did have a fun little Our Hero Matt. Not the Matt and Marie show, unfortunately. They put the kibosh on that! She has to do appearances on some shows...I think she still hangs out with Brawl from time to time but Jen Psaki is back You'll recall Chuck Hagel had this speech that I played a few bits from, begging for money at the luncheon where no one was paying attention. There was something he said in there and Matt Lee hero of The Awakened not due for a long life if he keeps this up

1:46:10 Matt Lee picked up on the same thing I heard in this, and I'll play this very quick clip from Chuck Hagel our Secretary of Defense of the United States of Gitmo Nation. Threats from terrorists and insurgents will remain with us for a long time but we also must deal with a revisionist Russia with its modern and capable army like that NATO's doorstep A revisionist Russia which is... I like that! ...good title but with their army on NATO's doorstep Well, that's not Russia's fault. Well thank you! You may now have a beer with Matt Lee." So the State Department with Jen Psaki decided it's a good idea to bring Rear Admiral John Kirby into the State Department briefing to talk about Russia and Ukraine and I think John Kirby has never watched...has no idea...was not briefed on Matt Lee

1:47:12 He has certainly never watched the Matt and Marie show, and I found this to be one of the most enjoyable few minutes of television i've seen in uh...in the past month. And again raise my glass in a toast to the AP diplomatic writer and journalist Matthew Lee. What he meant by calling it revisionist Russia? Revisionist Russia? Yeah what does that mean? Well the secretary? Yeah Secretary Hagel I think what he's referring to there is that, uh, that there appears to be in their intentions and their motives. Um, a call calling back to the glory days of the Soviet Union. He also used the phrase that it's army meaning Russia's army on NATO's doorstep. Why is

1:48:02 Is it not logical to look at this and say the reason that the Russian army is on NATO, the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep because NATO has expanded rather than the Russians expanding? And now you see Kirby with all his fruit salad going oh crap who's this guy? Where where my Pentagon press corps? The Barber Star who just repeats everything I say with her big Oh no, who's this guy? In other words NATO has moved closer to Russia rather than Russia moving closer to NATO. Is that not an accurate way to look at this? I think that is the way President Putin probably looks at it. No! Try it! No! Try it! Oh really?! Boo!

1:48:50 What? Now Matt is now that's how you piss off Matt Lee. You don't call him Putin! The way that we look at it, you know, you don't think that NATO has expanded eastward toward Russia? NATO has expanded and the expansion has been a good thing for... So the reason that the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep is not the fault of the Russian army or not the... It's not the Russian Army that's done it. It's NATO who moved closer to I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who was ordering upwards of 15 battalion tactical groups to within 10 kilometers of the border with Ukraine. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who put little green men inside Ukraine to- Wait, does he realize the absurdity what he's saying now? Little green man! Are you really an admiral?!

1:49:37 Little green men were with Ukraine and I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who put little green men inside Ukraine to destabilize Eastern cities. We all know that was the Kagan's. The Ukraine is not a member of NATO so unless that's changed... It's not changed but I'm pretty sure the movement by Russia, if Russia has decided... If NATO has moved east The reason that the Russian army is closer or on NATO's doorstep is because NATO moved. Not because- NATO was not an anti Russia alliance, it was a security alliance. For 50 years It was an anti Soviet Alliance So do you not understand how can you not even see? How the Russians would perceive it as a threat and the fact that he keeps getting closer to their border while their troops I mean ready for the meltdown

1:50:22 Here comes Kirby's meltdown. He barely got a history degree at the University of South Florida? Why is he doing that stupid? It's a meltdown. This is a meltdown for a rear admiral to say this, this is a meltdown. What I can tell you is that... Listen, Basaki laughing uncomfortably at his idiotic joke

1:51:02 goes in President Putin's mind or Russian military commanders. I mean, I barely got a history degree at the University of South Florida. What I can tell you is that NATO is a defensive alliance it remains a defensive alliance. Fair enough but it has moved east correct? It has expanded absolutely! There's no reason for anybody to think the expansion is a hostile or threatening move. And we've been saying that throughout the last 15 years, Matt. You're moving closer to Russia you're blaming the Russians for being close to NATO? No no That's exactly what we're blaming the Russians for violating the territorial integrity of Ukraine and destabilizing security Which is not a NATO member. Other countries feel threatened that are NATO members. Other countries feel threatened now Matt play along nicely because other countries feel threatened And when you know when NATO feels threatened, no We all say wait, you know, we have to do something about it Matt this is not okay What are you doing here? It's really there's no winning

1:51:59 We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot. Now everyone hug and share a secret! NATO! Good work Matt Lee Of course that never you know that stuff I don't think is ever reported because Associated Press won't let him write about how just how stupid and idiotic And yeah for 15 years we've been printing in all press Russia's coming closer where of course he's right Revisionist Russia Fabulous. That was a good one I'm looking him up on the Wikipedia now He's really he hasn't done much he's always well you shouldn't be allowed to do this seems to me Hmm, well doesn't even seem to have a wiki page yeah? Yeah, I think he does See it. I think get through Matthew Lee no not Matthew Lee Oh a rear Admiral Kirby Yeah, oh come on is really though its Rear Admiral

1:53:05 John Kirby. Oh, I know what you have to play the jingle otherwise You're right here's a Vicki page for the assistant secretary of defense or public affairs Is that him? That's Douglas Wilson. I guess he mentions him in there, both Little and Kirby service spokesman for the Secretary of Defense. Okay so Kirby is like works for the guy who was the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, the stooge. John Kirby grew up in St Petersburg Florida. He graduated from The University of South Florida in 85 with a BA in history

1:53:46 Well, I barely got an education with my bachelor's degree in history. What an idiot! And he worked part-time in the sports department sniffing jockstraps He was commissioned in September 86 after completing other officer candidate school Let's see...he has served aboard the guided missile frigate The Aubrey Fitch as an electrical officer Hey Kirby plug that in Yes sir Assistant navigator Hey Kirby hold the compass and communications officer Grab my coffee. He's also served as public affairs officer aboard the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal... Hmm. He is a PR guy? Yeah! Well, he's a crappy one. He's for some reason, he's Captain John Kirby here but I don't know and i thought he was a rear admiral

1:54:39 Well, he comes in as Admiral on this too. I think they promoted him or something. Well the DOD website and his bio is old. It's a one star I would think He has it looks like he has one star on it And he has a goofy smile man. He doesn't know how to do it Yeah, he shouldn't be in this job rookie Big time rookie do well if he did he didn't be with the South Florida. He didn't do his homework Yeah, Russia's done his homework on that down that crew That's always harassing the sake and hearth especially Matt Rookie rookies in the way you deal with Matt don't call on him Don't call on a whole though I think you have to the way they have some protocol in there because he's always getting called on first He is like he's in the pole position. I think he's the senior guy

1:55:27 Well, oh sticking with Russia which might be interesting just another now this is something I took to the global intelligence network. Another article that came via the Netherlands actually in the EU and here is a dw.de story Look for this one to get legs depending on the Ebola, etc. But more money for Ukrainian bullcrap! Funding woes delay new Chernobyl cover And this is a very interesting story The casing around the ruined nuclear reactor at Chernobyl is crumbling causing a renewed radioactive contamination risk Which which is horrible because I'm still dying from Fukushima

1:56:17 This will do me in for sure. A new cover for the site is under construction which they're calling a sarcophagus, but the project is running out of funding The German Ministry of Environment's senior civil servant has been talking about the new safe confinement and protective cover that needs to be built over the stricken reactor 100 meters high, 165 meters long built at a safe distance from the still radioactive ruin. Now of course this is a big project in fact the shortfall is estimated here at 600 million euros by the end of this year so we have to hurry because if we don't contain this well obviously Europe will die

1:56:58 They have, so they need to put a dome over the Chernobyl reactor which most people probably may not remember is in Ukraine. Always a great reason to get more money and contractors in Ukraine So I take this very story to Hot Rod Sir Rod Adams who is an expert in atomic and nuclear energy And I said, what do you think Sir Rod? I would appreciate your thoughts on this article. And he said even if the existing sarcophagus collapses there is no driving force to disperse the remaining radioactive material This is a make-work project that will have no impact on public safety It would be a very localized No Trespassing Zone at best

1:57:53 However, it will be sold to the public and I could you can just wait for now iodine is gonna sail We should get in now John we should get now. We should do the Noah gender And this will add to the Fukushima woes and I am predicting you can wait for this It may not come until after the elections But it will be great fear porn for Europe and of course the EU will come up with 600 million euros, and that will go into somebody's pocket who is laughing all the way to the bank for this bullcrap unnecessary dome.

1:58:35 It also pushes back anyone who tries to push nuclear power in any way, shape or form. I was listening to a clip and it's so long and boring that I decided not the clip of Robert Kennedy Jr., the one with their strange voice going on about how we should...I'll get the clip for maybe another future show. I think I have the clip! Yeah, yeah I have it here. It's bus worse. Sounds a lot like him, yeah. He went on and on about how after 9-11 we should have thrown up our arms in the air said this is all because of our dependence on oil and we should stop now and that would solve the problem man he goes on and on about how we have to get off of oil you know the same old nonsense because it's a part...you know we're in an oil economy but okay well just you know this is like food and water for the culture but okay will get off of it

1:59:32 But to do what? The same people will never accept nuclear, backyard nukes. He says everybody should be their own little power station to get the cells on the roof and a wind turbine and all this sort of thing when that backyard nuke would power the whole neighborhood and they don't give off any There's no waste. Breeder reactors... A little bitty things, but no I can't have that. There is also no profit this is the big problem. No big profits for ongoing resources that need to be put into the power plant. That's why it won't happen and people are just scared into believing that this is weird. You and I are both on the same page we are true environmentalists. We think nuclear energy is the safest way to go

2:00:19 Yeah, you know it is nuclear energy. There's no carbon pollution of any sort anymore I mean yeah if you're going to go back and look at the technologies that's the problem they look at the technologies in their early 50s oh it was terrible! Yeah probably back then it was pretty slipshod Good word does slipshod come before you run rough shot? Slipshod Nuclear energy is the Ebola of energy It's really true. Talking about Ebola, I did get a note from Paula who is a nurse or I guess working in one of the hospitals. We got a lot of emails from medical professionals this week. Yeah we do. I was just listening to show 660 and work in a hospital and handle patient blood and bone marrow samples all day

2:01:11 The hospital I work at is about 15 years old and has a tube system. Yeah, the tubes! Mr. Dvorak was correct when he said they like they have at the bank it's exactly like that except these are designed to carry patient samples this is to expedite the samples getting from the patient to the laboratory if they had to hand deliver everything would take taking it would take forever with couriers clogging up elevators and hallways full of Ebola patients This is total bullcrap that they are claiming the tube system is contaminated. All patient samples are handled as if they're filled with infectious agents and most of the time we don't even know if the sample is positive for some disease, as it would be handled in the same way if it was I will point out to you The Book Of Knowledge in case your interested in it has universal precautions Samples are drawn in vacuum containers which are nearly indestructible themselves double bagged

2:02:04 and then put in sealed shuttles before they are sent up the tube. There is no reason to think that any disease would get out of this and start crawling around the tube system, a la aliens! And I appreciate you two bringing this up This show is my bi-weekly vaccination against the Smith-Munt free media. Paul from Puget Sound, hi Paul! Sorry. And this was in I'm just thinking the clip that we had who was it that said That this was clearly a tube that had gotten contaminated? It was part of the nurses scam. I just don't remember why, but can't see it's not obvious right here on my clip list. Now that you mention a nurse's scam, I actually have a clip of this is on the Tom Hartman show with a union nurse and they're casually talking about

2:02:57 the nurses in Texas and all around the country that don't know what, you know they apparently don't know what they're doing. I have some criticism of this. I'll make my complaint known after this clip wanted to kind of do everything on the cheap. They kept telling the nurses they were ready, they told the public they were ready to deal with an Ebola patient and we see the results, they were not ready. And that's kind of what's going along nationally when we talk to nurses and did our survey was that now it's 76% of the nurses say their employer still has not

2:03:39 educated them about Ebola, about what to do how to use the clothing how to use the equipment and no ability to train or do any drills. It's absolutely amazing Deborah Berger thank you so much for coming on tonight and thanks so much for the great work that your union is doing. Absolutely amazing! Thank you very much! Well, it seems to me if you're a professional of any sort nurse doctor that at some point you'd educate yourself on a lot of these things wouldn't you or just passively sit there waiting for your boss. To tell you about how this Ebola thing works. You don't look it up

2:04:21 You don't read any of the journals. I would say it is, if anything, a huge insult to the nursing profession who are really the people who keep people alive in between doctor visits. Apparently they need all sorts of training and they're dummies! They're dumb, stupid... That is very rude, I agree. I thought that was insulting. Well The New York Times, and this was interesting for me, Sunday Review News Analysis written by Alan Foyer, no idea And of course we needed to debunk the Ebola conspiracy theories. I have heard this one as well, as The Daily Observer wrote an article and this is what i'm reading now from the New York Times article. Alleging that virus was not what it seemed a medical disaster but rather a bioweapon designed by United States military to depopulate the planet

2:05:15 Not long after, accusations appeared online contending the Federal Center for Disease Control and Prevention had patented the virus. Well it is patented by the US government Yes, and was poised to make a fortune from a new vaccine it had created with the pharmaceutical industry. So now they've...the article has already moved away from The Observer and now it's just pointing to you know conspiracy websites there were even reports the New World Order that classic conspiracy bugbear involving global elites had engineered Ebola in order to impose quarantines travel bans and eventually martial law this is The New York Times version of calling Republicans conspiracy nut jobs

2:05:54 with the travel ban slipped in there. And while most of these theories have so far lingered on the fringes of the internet, a few stubborn cases have crept into the mainstream. In last few weeks conservative figures like Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham have floated the idea that President Obama had sent aid to Africa risking American lives because of his guilt over slavery and colonialism. This makes Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham look like idiots Yeah, and they're also going what? And then put it right next to days ago hip-hop artist Chris Brown took the Twitter announcing to his 13 million followers I don't know but I think this Ebola epidemic is a form of population control So these are all the operatives and I will put Rush Limbaugh in the operative camp who will do whatever he is really where he makes the most money from Is what I believe. I think that guy's not an honest guy And

2:06:49 It's discrediting any other version of what is going on with Ebola. Any other version! You're a moron, you're conspiracy theorist and have no reason to even discuss this Perfect. This guy, this writer, Feuer... You know him? He is a generalist he doesn't I was hoping to find out looking at all his articles looking to see if there's some sort of link between one and another that would indicate he's like working for the agency or something like that but no The story that i have seen from Ghanese newspapers Ebola is not real the only people who've gotten sick are those who have received vaccination shots from the Red Cross

2:07:30 Then there's oh, there's this picture. I was talking about that said if that's what I haven't heard Yeah Here's the the shy boy kidnap is a north northern political propaganda No girls are missing these all the signs I was talking about these guys like listen to our show who is the what are you talking? About here where you getting this it's a link in the show notes What does this who wrote this and who was the original on just trying to find the original author hmm I've seen the story circulate, so it is kind of a viral thing. Joke joke. Uh oh! There it is! The Ebola! Oh my goodness! I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it through the show now... As we move into our thank you segment, I have a little thing I wanted to read from the... You'll recognize these guys. Is this the Nieman Lab?

2:08:38 Neiman Lab? The Neiman Foundation. Aren't they like about... isn't it an outfit that analyzes journalism? We've talked, yeah maybe we've talked about these guys before let me take a look at it. I think is from the Neiman Foundation yes and I don't know what that is but the Neiman foundation and the only reason I bring this up is Joshua Benton Yeah the Neiman Journalism lab pushing to the future of journalism Good luck. And I was surprised and I really liked the article, surprised by the amount of examples that were listed in here that did not know about. By the way before you do that I just want to say from their website at top of the Neiman Lab webpage this is where the future journalism must lay lie

2:09:22 BuzzFeed now has editorial and product people in place for its forthcoming news app, in big bold type. Well the article that caught my eye is related like it or not native advertising is squarely inside the big news tent oh yeah and the first...it opens up with there's no need for advertisements to look like advertisements if you make them look like editorial pages you will attract about 50% more readers You might think that the public would resent this trick, but there's no evidence to suggest they do. David Ogilvie is the person who said that in Confessions of an Advertising Man in 1963 So we all know about what is happening now where we have native advertising is deeply integrated and ingrained into mainstream news reporting I just wanted to read a couple examples

2:10:23 I was delighted really because this is the end. End of news journalism. In January, New York Times ran its first piece what's come to be called Native Advertising had New York Times blazed across the top of the page it had a lot of visual DNA of The Times article A headline about Millennials in the workplace about 700 words of copy and even the horrific honorific Mr & Mrs of Time style but above that headline in 12-point type There are the words paid for and posted by Dell. The buy line went to a freelance writer, notice by the way paid for and posted by Dell. The buy line went to a freelancer... Right I want to stop you there because i want to remind people that there are now systems in place

2:11:03 that we've discussed in great detail on this show, that are...you sign onto these systems and there are editorial holes. It's the content management system that you're using? It's a content management system and you shove your content into this editorial hole and it gets posted automatically into The New York Times. Whereas here I shove my editorial content into your hole I don't know what it is. Uncalled for! It's the Tourettes... But above the headline and 12-point type were the words, paid for and posted by Dell. The buy line went to a freelance writer with a Dell logo next to her name. The typography looked different from what you'd see on a Gail Collins column. At the bottom this page was produced by the advertising department of New York Times in collaboration with Dell. The news editorial staff at the New York Times had no role in its preparation. Then March Wall Street Journal published its first native ads

2:11:56 Under the rubric of narratives, USA Today joined in May the same month a non-profit Texas Tribune not profit. Texas Tribune debuted paid placement for op-eds. The Washington Post ran its first native ads last year Even the unabashedly liberal Guardian is in this game running pieces praising Ben and Jerry's earth friendly treatment of its ice cream waste products They look a lot like standard stories, but look a little closer You'll see the byline is the Anglo Dutch multinational Unilever Ben & Jerry's corporate parent and the Guardians substantial living partner This is

2:12:32 We were on this very early, talking about how this was going to take place. And it's along the lines of Nancy Snyderman, the NBC chief medical correspondent who doesn't stay in her quarantine for Ebola because she knows it's all crap and she had her black SUV parked outside a restaurant with the engine running while she was inside grabbing a bite to eat. You know, blatantly disregarding anything that she had...you know the fear porn that she had instilled herself. The news products have no

2:13:10 Credibility. Zero credibility! It will all become one big commercial, and already I would say most news products... 30% is... no 40% is already advertising another 20% is advertising other entertainment products from the parent companies so what do we have now? 60%, maybe 10 or 15 percent will ultimately be any kind of news and it won't be much more than sports Exactly. And everybody has just missed the whole idea that you don't need a network, you don't even... Matt Diplo AP really I tell if he went value for value of course it would never get back into the State Department press briefings that's a problem Right but unless if be part of this system But if he could be in there as an independent he would be unbelievable so we have to be his independent arm right now

2:14:12 We have to help him propagate his message, but the only way to do it fairly is to support people who try to bring you uncorrupted information. And we're not reporting on news where we're analyzing whatever we can And I think we're pointing out the discrepancies, the lies. The cheating, the underreported stuff like Obama's signing of that executive order nobody is reporting this but it was and so we are reporting the news in a way

2:14:47 that the media is not doing, which is reading the executive order. This is reporting reading the executive order and then telling the public what it says so that's actually original reporting since nobody else has done that. And more... So we do original reporting? True And more egregious is the pundits and experts are all in on the game. Everyone who gets called in, whether they're talking to them for a print article or for a hit as they call it on television... A hit? ...are all compromised. You know Jake Harney who was at The White House three months before he showed up as a special correspondent for CNN is outrageous!

2:15:26 and every military expert. There's actually... Jake Tapper and all the CIA shills? I'm trying to think, there was a quote here somewhere Bob Bear? No from the CIA yeah there was a quote here so i don't know if it was here or maybe with a comment on this and someone said well you know this is crazy they would never happen that uh you know someone who I have to look up the quote. You know, someone who was protecting the country would now be an analyst to talk about you know uh... protecting the country. It's like this happens all time! That's all that it is and no one is uncompromised in the process anymore And they're getting paid for their appearances. It's not free These guys are all getting- It's a good gig! It's a great gig but there is zero, zero credibility left

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2:17:04 No, I mean 69.69 with a one. Oh he's drunk Adam Moray Middletown Maryland 1 2 3 4 5 the lone one two three four five and He's drunk he says this is good just the random number thing happening again you have to drunks in a row Hey read his drunk read his drunkie he says Love this show. I drive 74 miles to work each day and after listening for several months, I feel like we're old friends Please tell Adam to play me a two shots of the head don't eat me Hillary And it's blank I'm sorry. I was too drunk to play the other one for you sir Nick Princey

2:16:20 for a news gathering. And this is a long-winded way of saying, if you don't support us then well you'll be buying lots of Ben & Jerry's. It was worth it. James Cates, I think so he came in with $169 and 69 cents from Virginia Beach, Virginia and it's a semi-drunk donation. There is double swazlenloof I guess. I don't see how that really is a double swazlenloof but oh its 6969 maybe times two?

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2:26:27 I vaguely remember reading something about this. Or maybe was that... I think that was Roberto, wasn't it? Probably could have been Well if he wants us to read something we'll do it. I thought i'd save this to talk about on the show and now I feel kind of stupid because my system has fallen apart on me Anyway, we have Terry Selly Stelly who was Black Knight Oh, I have to say search for black knight, put that in And we have Christina Gilo, who will be Dame Bang Bang. So let us grab the long blades since we have two knights and a dame today. Beautiful. Step up Roberto Suarez! Terry Stelly and Christina Gilo all three of you have contributed to the best podcast in universe. We might want $1000 more and we are very happy to induct you into the table of the round with the Knights and Dames and we say to you hello Sir Roberto The Freakin' Reekin'. Hello Sir Terry The Black Knight Chief Bastard Of Mobile Bay

2:27:22 and hello Dame Bang Bang for you we've got hookers and molly root beer and legos ass cream with bear fillings mushrooms and makers mark Cuban cigars of single mods what opium in warm orange juice Sparkling cider and escorts. I forgot the rent boys in Chardonnay, I thought maybe no she wanted hookers and Molly is what yeah? Hookers in Mali Dame bang-bang water and of course you had a root beer Molly's know what you said I said hookers in Polly but some root beer and we should try root beer and molly that sounds like Have you ever tried Molly

2:27:58 No, it's not good for you. It is one of those serotonin blockers that makes you very slowly lose your ability to have any emotions whatsoever. It is very dangerous. What is the... It's like taking Xanax a lot these things are all bad. What's in it? what is Molly? I don't know. It makes your skin very sensitive. I saw two people died at the Amsterdam dance event over the weekend due to bad MDMA pills You should not be buying your MDMA... Isn't MDMA this is ecstasy No, I know. It's...I'm just relating it to party drugs. Oh so they drop dead? Yeah pretty much one died outside and one died in the hospital but do not buy your MDMA pills on-site people just don't buy them at all it's not a good idea at all something I have not tried and you know and I really intend to do this but Molly what on this is I have to look that up I'm a hell doll girl myself

2:29:00 All right Go to know a generation comm slash rings and pick up your well-deserved ringage. Thank you so much for supporting us and As John said we look forward to Thursday's show To bring you more our media deconstruction in our value for value proposition Yes, and so let's play a commercial buzz from the past five years ago pop the pig Okay Who's going to pop the pig? Feed him a burger. Yum! Keep feeding him, the more he eats the bigger it gets and his belly gets bigger, bigger and bigger. Pop the pig is belly-busting fun by Goliath. And the significance of this uh... I don't know i saw this in this old clip so why did i clip this

2:29:54 I don't remember this being played originally on the show. Probably was never played, now it's his first time from five years ago. John you're the one kind of keeping track of the Hillary 2016 campaign how is that going? Who have we Who are we looking at here? Of course, I'm sticking with my more recent thesis which is that she doesn't want to run but she wants to get the money so she can take the money and run as it were. So it's not running but running with the money right now. And this seems to be shaping up. It seems to be working out fine. When was the last time... She's not getting in a kind of press that she would like if she was actually running. She's going to have to announce after the midterms

2:30:41 Right. Which I also think are going to be disappointing for the Republicans Yes, you have mentioned this And uh...I think that she's working on some new ways She has a submarine her own campaign and i think she is getting old and tired I think she just doesn't want to do it No matter who is trying to get into the race everyone is trying to discredit other guys The number one guy to knock out of the race. Although it is kind of funny to have him around as Vice President Joe Biden and I feel sorry for the guy because they really pulled a fast one on him this time but that's how it goes, Joe! 44 year old Hunter Biden, vice president Joe Biden's youngest son was discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine. This is the guy who runs the financial company in Ukraine

2:31:38 He's part of that whole outfit. Yeah, and coked up I mean this is the old cheapest way and the worst way to discredit somebody. You can't even manage your own kid! Hunter was commissioned in May 2013 It's a long piece too you want to hear it? A little bit And assigned a coveted position as a public affairs officer in Norfolk Virginia but U.S officials confirm the very next month after reporting to his unit Biden was given drug test, which he failed. Biden's brief military career ended with this statement It was the honor of my life to serve in the US Navy and I deeply regret and am embarrassed that my actions led to my administrative discharge Hunter Biden comes from a proud military family Proud military family who can't keep their kids in line His older brother Beau is a major in the Delaware Army National Guard Watch him go, he'll be on crack

2:32:35 Before you know it and served a year in Iraq Military service has been a big part of the Biden family's public platform now watch him take it to Joe and really screw I'm looking forward to standing with our son Hunter when he is commissioned as an ensign in the United States Navy He follows in the footsteps of two his grandfathers who have also served in that smoke crack maybe Hey Grandpa Joe Biden. I'm on the weed." Biden's case confirms, Biden received two waivers to join a special Navy Reserve program. They even got him in on a special waiver this is horrible. The kid must have been a wreck. Age the cutoff is 40. He must've been pretty funny and energetic and productive too but Biden was 43 when he applied the source says his strong academic record pushed him through

2:33:30 The vice president joked about his son's timing unknowingly just a month before Hunter was discharged. This is where they really stick it to him, this is such a low blow. We have a lot of bad judgment in my family, Ma. Poor guy! So unfair... Timing unknowingly just a month before Hunter was discharged We have a lot of bad judgment in my family. My son who's over 40 just joined the United States Navy is about to be sworn in as an officer, Tony Biden He sounds drunk himself right there doesn't he? About to become an officer It was worth it Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine Alright poor Joe that's mean

2:34:14 Yeah, he's out. The one that they're bringing up and they're trying to groom because I think a lot of people don't like the concept of Elizabeth Warren getting there you know the billing because we have to have a woman next mm-hmm and so they're there's a huge attempt to get Andrew Cuomo into the race. And he's... What is he, Republican Democrat? What is he? No, he's a Democrat. There's a long line of Democrats from Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo and he is showing up all over the place and he was recently on The Charlie Rose Show or maybe it was Today Show and he was just being interviewed in the roses all over him. Oh you're great!

2:34:56 Because this is somebody, whoever handles Rose is bringing this guy in. And it's also there's a make good involved because his dad... whatever the other Cuomo... Do we have a clip of the show? Mario Cuomo. You have a clup? No. Mario- no I'm just giving you the rundown so that they don't get a long boring clip Mario Cuomo was going to be run for president. He was kind of designated president, that's when Bill Clinton slipped in and beat George HW Bush because they, Cuomo begged out of that race thinking what standing president has gotten us into a war? The Kuwait First Kuwait War with Iraq

2:35:41 How could he get voted out? I'll run after he's done. And Clinton wisely ran and then took, basically took Mario Cuomo completely out of the political picture and I think they owe the family a favor. Interesting. Well, that could work but no actually it couldn't work It has to be a woman there's no qualms about it has to be a woman That's what we need Now tell me was there not a time I believe in history now I barely got a degree from the University of South Florida so I really don't know But was there not a time and maybe Cleopatra's age when women ran the show here's how I understand the history of it and I need to do some research

2:36:23 where women ran the show, they were in charge of everything. And the only thing men did was protect them carry heavy stuff and but then men were allowed to service any woman that they wanted or any woman that wanted servicing and the man would just kind of kept dumbing and ate around and screwed running. I use your fantasy. Yeah I think this would be a very good way to do it. Yes, that would be something you'd think was being written Very good way to do they're kind of doing that now because the real president is Valerie Jarrett Yeah And I think there's some of that going on so this is not true This never happened within the Clinton times of Cleopatra. No, I'm gonna look this up. I have a feeling yeah Well, I think he should read a little history well, I got a good book for you read Gibbons and

2:37:06 Rise and fall of the Roman Empire. That's what I would read and do it, you know before the next show a couple volumes Will there be a test? So will there be a test? Yeah, that'll be a test that definitely definitely definitely for our anyway, I think you're right but Elizabeth Warren is gonna have her work cut out for if they if the Democrat Party decides that They're gonna push Andrew Cuomo. Yeah And I think what it is, there's fear that Elizabeth Warren could be beaten by a Republican. I don't think so personally. I don't see any Republican beating Elizabeth Warren. I think there's more likelihood that a Republican could beat Andrew Cuomo but Cuomo is good looking guy big smile seems his sharp you know he's a good candidate. It has to be a woman John, it has to be a woman

2:37:58 Elizabeth Warren looks like everybody's grandmom. She got, you know there are issues with her and Hillary she is I think Hillary hurt herself with that fall just seems dumb she is not a sharp old self. I have two parting clips from the snow job department ummm...I think I'll play our Gitmo Nation East clip first This is a snippet of reporting from the BBC on a recent conversation in, I believe Parliament. The Secretary of...the Home Secretary Theresa May who that is pretty much the Department of Homeland Security's secretary

2:38:45 She's in charge of the home. As far as the Department of State... The state, I'm sorry but not really the Foreign Affairs because she doesn't do foreign affairs Well that would be the... Foreign Affairs That'd be the... No, the Home Secretary is like Department of State and then there's another Why don't we look it up for a second? Let me see, let me see Secret... Home Secretary It's very similar It's important to know We've been struggling with this Was that the bald guy Q Ball was that guy for what was he? Uh... You mean the uh, what was his name again? I can't for cue balls. We go protect our freedoms protect our freedoms that guy yeah that guy Home Secretary who well it was this guy if we slow him down about 5% That's just what isn't I need his name otherwise. I can't find the jingle Hague. Oh, let's see Hague Hague right hey vague. Hey, I'll play hague while you look up with the home secretary does

2:39:45 Intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework. We operate under the rule of accountable for it In some countries, secret intelligence is used to control their people. In ours it only exists to protect their freedoms. Protect their freedoms. Very good. Well, the joke of that, of course, is that Hague was never the Home Secretary He was a foreign minister for an affair? He was the Foreign Secretary That's what I thought Or no wait... Was Hague What was his first name William William Hague

2:40:24 Okay, let me get that so we get this straight before we start yakking about it. Okay the Home Secretary is one of the United Kingdom's four great offices of state as Minister in charge of the home office The Home Secretary is responsible for the internal affairs of England and Wales and for immigration citizenship For the whole of the UK he was right He was a foreign secretary remit of the home office also includes policing in England and Wales and matters of national security As the security service, MI5 is directly accountable to the Home Secretary. Oh, it's the Spy Secretary! The current Home Secretary... That's a good job. It's a great job! Yeah you get to use resources of MI5. Hey I got this parking ticket? Here is Theresa May in an unbelievable statement and non-analysis by the BBC on this particular piece

2:41:28 And we've many times said that Gitmo Nation east of the United Kingdoms is so obviously a beta test for the rest of the world. I'm sorry to report, you are beyond repair! When you hear this. The Home Secretary has defended the right of the security and intelligence agencies like GCHQ to collect information about phone call records, emails and other internet activity on a large scale what's known as bulk data collection. Theresa May was giving evidence to Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee and she said the ability to collect large amounts of information was hugely important

2:42:08 We cannot emphasize enough that the collection of bulk data is not mass surveillance. What? Let me just emphasize... Let me get this straight! Wow! The collection of bulk data is not mass surveillance. What is it then?! Well, precisely because what happens is this targeted process which means that this is not about just some sort mass look at everybody's data. Most of the data will not be looked at all. But we'll have it, but just won't look at it anymore. Won't be touched. The former cabinet minister and conservative Michael Ancrum now Lord Luthien put to the Home Secretary concerns raised with the committee

2:42:49 Certain witnesses have suggested to us that bulk collection itself is an invasion of privacy. And this is what, of course we know the metadata by itself and recall the metadata also includes every website you've been to this is part of what they're collecting Mrs May did not accept that! The intelligence agencies needed access to that information I do not accept that!! I don't think the collection of bulk data itself in an abstract form is necessarily what government should be about. What government should be about is saying where do we need to have a haystack, in order to access the needle? We need to have a haystack! In order to access the needle

2:43:30 Ho ho or well anybody is necessary to keep people safe. Theresa May said that the government did need to think about what information was made public, to give people confidence in the way the intelligence agencies were working. Citizens of the United Kingdom resume normal activity pay no attention to the Haste Act. We don't have it quite that bad No, but the guy... You're right. I think I've always thought you were right about this thesis. Will they do it to see what the public reaction is? They go, yeah nobody seems to care let's try it in the United States and see what happens. Russell Brand goes out of his way... They haven't been so blunt as that. He's very blunt about things. I need to say something. Russell Brand is a distraction

2:44:24 I keep getting emails, oh he seems to be right on message. He's a distraction! He's an incoherent distraction. He's distracting you from the true issues with his bravery of trying to bust into Fox News to see Sean Hannity are you kidding me? Who gives a crap distraction. I don't believe Russell Brantley... He did what? Yeah, he was- he tried to walk into Fox the broadcast building in New York with a camera. I'm here to see Sean Handy! Of course it gets kicked out! Well of course it gets kicked out anybody would that's and he knows that is why he does it to be a distraction so people are looking at his message but of course he has a message that

2:45:02 Not you got a new movie or something coming. Oh, no No I don't think so i'm sure he means well But he's being used it's like Alex Jones going on Pierce Morgan And just because then you will just use this the moron who wants guns It doesn't matter The guy the guy i'm keeping a very sharp eye on is James Comey Ah comey This is our new director of the FBI this is a 10-year position Unless you're a Robert Gates, and then you get to go for 12 years because you know where all the bodies are buried from Yeah, they had think yeah that just said it took that long to erase his hard disk. Yeah two extra years and Comey did another speech Let me see where was he? You're beating me up on this This is good I should be following comey closer too we've already decided that He's the guy to watch

2:45:53 Yeah, let me just see where this was. This particular speech is... And I found it! It's on C-SPAN but i found it at the Brookings Institution well that makes sense doesn't?t This is where policy is set. I pulled out the whole relevant pieces a couple minutes if you get bored please tell me immediately. I doubt you will we may have to stop but to discuss here and there. It's the last clip I have James Comey director of the FBI on encryption. that...oh man, come on John help me out here. I don't know what it is! Yeah you do, CALEA. It's um... Let's look it up. C-a-l-e-a, it's the communications regulation about uh...I'm glad I asked. C-a-l-e-a? No. Yeah it is.

2:47:04 Yeah, the community can now Law Enforcement Act there you go and you'll recall they tried to To change that a couple years ago And then that didn't happen this is way before Snowden and this is funny because this we did talk about this thing I'm gonna just read think from this Wiki The United States wiretapping law passed in 1994 during their presidency of bill Bill Clinton's Khalil. I think first crap crapped out, came up. Because I remember talking...I was doing a show then called either Real Computing or Software Hard Talk on public radio and I had an FBI guy on discussing this and there was the same pitch, you know we need this because all it...the pitch the FBI has and I've said it before is a pitch for laziness

2:47:49 Yes, so they don't have to do anything. They don't have to touch everything and we wouldn't even be in the field! You won't have to follow it or you won't have any actual work Yeah, you don't have to put anybody in there or really have to do any work...you just listen IN on everyone! Now Kaliya is 20 years old It was enacted on October 25th 1994 And it requires a telecommunications carrier, as defined by the act to ensure that equipment facilities or services that allow customer or subscriber to originate terminator direct communications enable law enforcement officials to conduct electronic surveillance pursuant to court order or other lawful authorization. I think it was CALEA they tried to update to do the SOPA stuff and that's why he got shouted down? Yeah. I recall there was like some sneaky change of the act that got overturned

2:48:33 So this guy's still operating on the principle. It has been going on forever, this attempt But it's changed a little bit and some of the words he uses are interesting to me The issue is whether companies not subject currently to CALEA should be required to build lawful intercept capabilities for law enforcement Now to be clear we are not seeking to expand our authority to intercept communications We're struggling to keep up with changing technology and to maintain our ability to actually collect the communications we are authorized to collect. And if the challenges of real-time data interception threatened to leave us in the dark, encryption threatens to lead us all to a very very dark place. A very very dark place John! Encryption

2:49:24 A very dark place because Uberlord Comey needs to be able to access anything you do. Here's what I mean by that. Tell me. Encryption is nothing new, but the challenge for law enforcement and national security officials is markedly worse with recent default encryption settings encrypted devices and networks all in the name of increased security and privacy. Yes, this is very good for the citizens of the world to have increased security and privacy away from your prying eyes you scum! For example with Apple's new operating system... Ooh calling out the apples hello Tim Collins or Steve Cook whatever your name is. The information stored on many iPhones and other Apple devices will be encrypted by default okay

2:50:10 Pay attention to what he says next, what Apple said. will not be able to unlock phones, laptops and tablets to reveal photos or documents. Or email... Yeah! Because I bought the product it's my product it's my possession I own the product although that is probably dubious at best depending on all of the warning and licensing crap that you apparently sign when you use it but yeah I bought the product Apple has no right to screw with my product oh wait they can put a U2 CD on it but okay

2:50:53 What's wrong with you, Comey? That they don't have... They can't do anything after I've bought a product. Oh! Restored texts or recordings in those doc... In those instruments Look both companies are run by good people who care deeply about public safety and national security. I know that Uh-uh And they're responding to a market demand that they perceive It's a marketing it's just market demand But the place that this is leading us, is one that I suggest we should not go without careful thought and debate as a country. Okay? At the outset the good folks at Apple say something that's reasonable. Now... The good folks at Apple say something that's reasonable! I'm now interested. Apple- so the director of FBI is saying that Apple said this to him which is look it's not that big a deal because law enforcement can still

2:51:45 Get the data from the cloud, because folks are going to back up their devices to the cloud. I have heard this argument but i've never heard an Apple person say this Have you? Have you heard an Apple person say this? No no actually haven't heard too many people that are representing a money-making corporation saying anything like that What's there to worry about? It is reasonable which is look it's not that big of deal because law enforcement can still Get the data from the cloud, because folks are going to back up their devices to the cloud and FBI with lawful authority can still access the cloud. But here's the problem with that uploading to the cloud doesn't include all of the stored data on the bad guys phone I'd like to stop this for a moment...I would like the director of FBI to stop his blatant sexism

2:52:36 Not all criminals are guys, and he continuously talks about bad guys, bad guys, bad guys. Why? Is it only guys who do this or are women never come...never bad?" I take issue with that. I think you should! Which has the potential to create a black hole in and of itself A black hole? But second, if the bad guys don't back up their phones routinely or if they opt out Hey bad guy have you backed up your iPhone regularly because you know hey bad guy it would have a whole campaign And by the way, there is a JC Buzzkill Jr. pointed this out to me and I had it clicked If you go into your settings for Android phones they are backing up the damn phone constantly to the cloud By default? By default! You have to go in there and click on that little thing and get it off Every upgrade you do its always back on by default All my documents in my iPod Touch

2:53:35 All of a sudden we're up to the cloud and then you say, I don't want them anymore. It says this will delete everything on the cloud but it doesn't. It deletes everything on your phone Yeah! It's still in the cloud. Yeah Liars In and of itself But second If the bad guys do not backup their phones routinely or if they opt out of uploading to the cloud The data will only be found on encrypted devices themselves Oh no And it is people most worried about what's on the device who will be most likely to avoid the cloud. Because if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about! You should just open everything up. You don't need encryption if you're not breaking the law. Yeah, put cameras in your house while you're at it. And make sure that law enforcement cannot access incriminating data. This is called privacy and we have constitutional rights for this

2:54:23 Encryption just isn't a technical feature, it's part of the marketing strategy. It's a marketing strategy John! It's just marketing we can do away with marketing is not about your rights but marketing But it will have very serious consequences for law enforcement and national security agencies at all levels Yeah you'll have to do some work and get off your lazy ass You've got to go follow somebody, you know sleuthing like the Hardy Boys Sophisticated criminals will come to count on these means of evading detection. terrorists. It's got to be something! Ebola? It's the equivalent of a closet that can't be opened, a safe deposit box that can't be opened, or safe they can ever be cracked yeah and my question facilitates this conversation is at what cost

2:55:24 No cost. Free! There's a huge cost with the bad guys out there. I have to correct some misimpressions that are connected to this. The first is that folks say, phone folks say look you're still going to have access to metadata which includes telephone records and location information See how it connects to what Theresa May was saying? Here he's talking about we have to have the haystack to find the needle. She is also saying a metadata is not enough, we need to be able to go in and read it when you're bad guy. Yeah let's say that I am on this show and this show is political show about Republicans. Anti or pro? We are Republican, pro-Republicans unlikely ever happen but secretly

2:56:12 I am a Democrat. I can imagine somebody like, I don't know Bill O'Reilly being like this. Yeah or John Stewart is probably Republican secretly and I am funneling money you know quite a bit of it to the Democrat Party because i want them to get elected even though I'm doing this Republican show well political operatives that happen to be running the show in the government can find this out quite easily by spying on me and that's what their whole thing is about. And they also might want to blackmail me over some website I accidentally visited or maybe I purposely visited, it's all about blackmail by the government."

2:56:53 Where, look they know Curry is off. The guy's Tourette so we can't even talk to the guy at all He can't even keep attention for five seconds We've got to change the tone of this show through Dvorak Hey you remember that girl in LA who works for E? Yeah...we have pictures Hey Dvorak! You may want to help Curry understand things a little better Yeah, yeah. There it is. Stored with the telecommunications carriers and that is absolutely true but metadata does not provide the content of any communication No! It's incomplete information You said... what happened? We don't need that What happened we never look at that we don't need that now the FBI stooge isn't here saying we need to have this This an outrage almost done with Comey here With a telecommunications carriers And that is absolutely true

2:57:50 But metadata does not provide the content of any communication. It's incomplete information, and even that is difficult to access when time is of the essence." I wish we had time in our work especially when lives are on the line We usually don't There was a misconception that building a lawful intercept solution Is all about building a backdoor One that foreign adversaries or hackers could exploit Ah! What could we possibly come up with That is less scary than a back door? If you were the director of the FBI. If I was looking for something less scary? Yeah! Than a backdoor?! Yeah! I don't have any idea, backdoors don't seem that scary to me. Oh come on man this is for The Sheeple! Uh what would just tell people it would be uh...I dunno. I'm sure he's got better ideas than i do when it comes to this sort of propaganda- What is it!? That also is not true

2:58:46 We are not seeking a backdoor approach. We want to use the front door with clarity and transparency Transparency hello, I'm here at the front door of your eye vote And I want to come in very transparent and have clarity about it all and hello I mean the front door not a bag or front door. I'm gonna out your back door man. Let me front door man we want clear guidance provided by law We are completely comfortable with court orders and legal process front doors that provide us the evidence and information we need to investigate crime and prevent attacks. Number one front door is, and always will be Facebook! The director of the FBI has an office in Facebook on campus That is your number one place where your metadata and conversations are being shared with government. That's the front door

2:59:39 Right there, front door. No encryption to you. Notice Facebook hasn't come out and said yes we're going to encrypt everything! Interesting how they haven't done that. Why would they? They'd lose all their business And nobody cares All these idiot Facebook users they don't care I don't hear anybody bitching about it Did you hear about the Zuckerberg emails that came up again or the IMs? No Here it is This happened a while ago, but I think the story resurfaced. I'm not sure why maybe he needs to be put back in his place Business Insider embarrassing and damaging Zuckerberg IMs confirmed by Zuckerberg I thought it actually came in a New Yorker quoted two of these quotes from Zuckerberg back in the... now my browser of course is frozen Back in his earlier days and I will read them to you after all the ads are clicked away

3:00:36 Friend, so have you decided what you're going to do about the websites? Let me see what this context is. Oh outlining how he was planning to deal with Harvard Connect which was a competing system to his- the Facebook back in Harvard. Friend So we've decided what you're going to do about the web sites Zuck yeah I'm going to fuck them probably in the year I mean ear In another exchange, Zuck. Yeah? So if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard just ask I have over 4,000 emails pictures addresses What says friend how'd you manage that one zuck people just submitted it i don't know why they trust me dumb fucks That's the quote of the year that is that is Zuckerberg That is the guy who was running Facebook that is the guy who was protecting your data everybody Trust Me yeah Dumb fucks

3:01:29 That is your Facebook user. In a nutshell, dumb fuck! And that concludes our media deconstruction for October 19th 2014 Happy to be here for you Please remember us and visit Dvorak dot org slash NA and use the no agenda player at NoAgendaPlayer dot com to be able to create direct links to relevant pieces of the program To hit people in the mouth who are already kind of on board If they're not, don't even bother. It won't work. It's not worth the effort. Really isn't and Are you doing any phone shows? No I'm not doing anything today but cooking. Oh clean up a little bit cook I wish I was there for the cooking well it's gonna be a leg of barbecued leg of lamb mmm yummy very nice

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