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00:00 You can eat the walls. Filtering the mainstream of horrible carcinogens for your protection here in FEMA Region 6 and Travis Heights hideout in Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I am doing my taxes and don't like what I see...I am John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Oh man I so not doing that yet Don't we have until Wednesday? He reminded me of it Thank you

00:41 I don't like that. I got a frog in my throat this morning. Yeah, you do. You've always been sick for the last few shows people haven't noticed well It's actually it's been oh that's right oak yeah, it's been the last couple of months We actually we were like if we started looking around maybe just get an apartment somewhere and leave the Travis Heights area because we can't just allergy stuff is crazy Does everybody suffer from this or is it something you get used to? No, last night... so yesterday I worked all day so that i could have a couple hours at our buddy's 50th birthday party. Okay and uh and it was outside of course and even long-term people who were born and raised in Austin they all say oh yeah well that's our little dirty little secret is our allergies that we have here

01:29 Really? So people that have been living there all their lives and they got no reason to have allergies. Have allergies. Well why don't you... Austin's, Paulins Please go to my Twitter stream Your Twitter stream Yes yes You know where I tweet? Where do I put the tweets? Yeah it's under the name Adam Curry I believe And look for the picture from the party from last night Curry pocket agenda yeah I've now yeah that's a little there's a photo of miss Mickey myself and a surprise guest as the theme was American hustle what's his name sir Jean yeah a rare insight into the fan base

02:20 Is that a great shot? I can get you some stuff You think he's gonna talk like this. He actually had the whole thing down even had little baking soda under his nostrils It did. It was a great party, yeah in bed by 1130. Yeah that's the life we're living baby I tell ya. I'm gonna start off with some good news. Oh okay China has been corrupted and i think this is the best thing that has happened ever And we have something to do with it? I believe so Okay, I got two clips and it's about what happened on Sina Weibo. What is Sina? Weibo Sina we bow is the combination Facebook and Twitter of China oh Really, it's a combo It's it's literally a Facebook Twitter combo for Facebook in Twitter I think okay They call it more Twitter than Facebook But doesn't seem so because they have likes and all that kind of cornball is it is it seen now we bow dot

03:18 It's seen as the company, Weibo.com is the product I think it's weibo dot com, I don't know but this is the good news right now there are big breaking stuff happening Chinese you know they're under they don't like to be critical but they can seem to be critical that seems that they've taken on some characteristics of the American public which means if they can be manipulated in new and different ways Like all social media, China's Sina Weibo has seen a share of celebrity gossip and scandalous photos. But there is nothing like a lying cheating heartbreaker to really get users going. Link Asia's Beijing correspondent Mark Dreyer joins us now And Mark what is this post that has been drawing so much attention?

04:02 It all started with a post by a newspaper, a couple of Fridays ago that said see you on Monday implying that they had some big news to break. But the news actually broke over the weekend instead Actor Wen Zhang whose 53 million followers give you some sense of his popularity here had been caught cheating on his pregnant wife The actress Ma Yili and posted a lengthy public apology ahead of the newspaper exclusive That was forwarded 1.2 million times and drew 1.9 million comments, many of them critical One person wrote those who feel that Wenjiang's apology is insincere please click like and tens of thousands did so Another had this to say the highest order of male scum are those who have hurt their wives and let the mistress take the blame while they themselves able to start afresh

04:56 Adding to the scandal was the fact that the mistress in this case, was another actress Yao Di. Who like Wen's wife Ma, was another of his former TV co-stars But that was just a start! Ma, the wife then posted this short message Although love is easy marriage is not It's to be seized and cherished That comment was liked more than 2.5 million times... Wait a minute, so what you're saying is... Isn't this great? We have spread the horrible stupid social media sickness upon them is that what you're saying? Yeah! It's like a disease. That's pretty good

05:32 And it's got them going and this even this meme came up about cherishing and all this other crap. And there is all these likes flying around, the Chinese are being critical which is publicly saying bad things is not a normal Chinese trait I mean the whole thing to me Out of control and wild. This is the second part of this you want to play it shorter I don't know if i really want to oh come on, you gotta...this is the beginning this is a This to me as an historic moment The four posts two from when one from Ma and one from Ma's father were the four most popular of the week Setting new records for the numbers of reposts comments and likes they should but they should be having making up their own vernacular You know It's like They can't just be using likes

06:18 Oh, this is in Chinese and some other word. And what's posts and comments? Don't they have like tweet a weeb? A weedwoe. It certainly looks like those who argued Weibo was dead may have jumped the gun somewhat. Oh we heard that! RSS is dead Twitter is dead Facebook is dead Weibo is dead... They're using everything now Even you know do they have a Michael Arrington of China probably Tech crunch is there any sense of who's been fascinated by this scandal yes John C Dvorak in Berkeley California has been fascinated by the scandal I am well Cena actually said that most people discussing when initial post were females age 24 and under oh wait are their pictures on this thing yeah, yeah with chicks their selfies

07:10 I don't see any cell. Well, I see someone with food... Oh man the Chinese like to- oh here's one! There's a cute little selfie Look at these kids What are they wearing? Oh my goodness. Ah you're right they can never take over the world now No, they've been corrupted completely. This is the worst thing that could ever happen to the Chinese government. They should never let that happen! Which goes out of its way to censor things and do this and that... They should have shut this thing down from the get-go Yeah I completely agree. I can't read or understand much of it but i can see the selfies

07:51 Hmm. Okay, well this is- you're right! This is very good news. Today's the day and we should mark the day Yes it is April 13th 2014 Ren Min Bi Ren Ming Bi You don't get to play anymore I'm practicing no Ren Min Bi I'm practicing my Chinese We gotta get ready That's probably not a bad idea Let's get ready to rubble Rubble them! We're rubbling them in cyberspace Is what were doing Rubbalizing em Ah good work Good work. I just thought you have some little good news today hmm since our donations were so far down Yeah, that would be the only good news of the show yeah Yeah And and do you think there's a reason for that if we just not been doing our job which is what? I immediately think I was tired of us I Think a lot of the listeners are just not

08:46 stepping up to the plate. I mean, we have our regulars and we have our subscribers but we don't have a you know... We have these moments of course tax time is here and you can always use that as excuse but i'm not going with having excuses not to donate after I got this letter which they don't have in front of me but it's a guy in England And he says, this note came over the weekend. If it came on Friday I'd have my wallet in hand but since you sent it out on Saturday It's impossible for me to donate. I don't know what he is talking about like Is he going to send us the wallet? Is he gonna mail the wallet But this is like one of these guys instead of actually contributing to the show and helping us out He's actually taking an excuse not to donate then berates us for when the newsletter Which is a reminder to watch the show the next day and I suppose they're coming on Friday It actually takes time to send an email to you And actually an email to you or normally people just send it to me. I mean this guy really went all-out he did some real work

09:43 Yeah, he went through all the trouble of doing this and said you know he's a classic. This is the kind of there's we get I think We got more of these people than we really want which are this kind of screwball? I don't know how to even describe a guy like that well It doesn't matter because i'm still enthusiastic And I said and i've still done my research and i've done my homework and i've been i've got things to discuss And the first thing, as you know we're always on top of what kind of drugs to give our kids and for what reason. You know I love the DSM, the DSM-5 is out now that's the Diagnostic Statistic Manual it's the Bible for the pharmaceutical industry. Yes a profit making bible. Yes so money new research has shown something very important now of course

10:38 Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. And we have a couple of drugs to treat that, we have Ritalin and we have Adderall these are all great products if your child is taking them by the way We here at The No Agenda Show recommend you try them yourself It'll give you good idea what you're doing to your child Just take one it's all it will take Now there's of course a problem with this the way I view the world of pharmaceuticals is the H in ADHD does not really, I mean there's a whole bunch of kids 2 million in fact according to this article that I found the New York Times. That you know they have attention deficit but then the hyperactivity is a problem

11:24 And now groundbreaking research, John has determined. Oh yes groundbreaking... We got new stuff coming! We have a new disorder and your child just may have this it's called sluggish cognitive tempo disorder and the condition is characterized by lethargy or lethargy daydreaming and slow mental processing What test do they do to prove or disprove, or measure slow mental processing?

12:13 The Journal of Abnormal Child Psychologist. You throw something at the kid, like a crumpled up piece of paper you throw right in his head? Does it take him forever to block the shot? Boom! Bounces off his head? Is that slow mental processing? Well listen to this... What does this mean by the way? Is mental processing say your fast on a basketball court and dribbling around and your kind of dumb in school which can happen Is that slow mental process? You know, it seems unlikely in an interview Keith McBurnett a professor of psych psych psychiatry at the University of California San Francisco That's up near neck-of-the-woods co-author of several papers on sluggish cognitive tempo. He said he's enough He is an expert said Keith McBurnett

13:00 When you start talking about things like daydreaming, mind-wandering and those types of behaviors someone who has a son or daughter who does this excessively says I know this from my own experience. They know what you're talking about time to drug them! Drug em! It's day dreaming he is thinking about a better future? Drug him! Oh my goodness Wow. So a kid can't just be daydreaming? No, no, no, no! Get back to work slave! Do that number line whatever it is. He said the number line... About two-thirds of children with ADHD diagnosis take daily medication such as Adderall or Concerta. Two thirds?! Yes. Oh my god And that's six million kids who in America alone are diagnosed with ADHD just as kids

13:57 You know, there's grown-ups are diagnosed with this too. Anyway they did a study published in the Journal of Child and Adolescent Psychopharmacology concluded this is the first study to report significant effects of their medication on SCT! That's right, stratera is the medication Stratera. Yeah, sounds like one to check out I have...I need someone to be diagnosed with this so that i can try me some stratera. Because I like it's stratera dot com. I'd like me some daydreamin'. Here. I haven't seen any commercials for this yet. Oh! This is no good. Stratera is a non-stimulant that may provide relief for ADHD syndrome. What do you mean non stimulant?

14:41 Who wants that? And look at these two people on the front page of their website. One woman looks like she's in a zone talking about daydreaming and the other kid looks like a pervert! Hey, we can get a 30-day free trial I need to try me something but i'll try anything Let's see is there commercials? See if we can find a commercial But it's for bipolar. I wonder what she looks out of it? Don't use it for anything Tell your children, teenagers doctor if your child teenager has or does... Here we go! Oh wait you don't have to have a family history. Here we go. Uh I think this is a Stratera ad We'll probably get an ad They don't want you taking Stratera No they want the doctors to know So basically we've got our work cut out for us Sales are down What's it like to have adult attention deficit disorder ADD

15:33 You often feel distracted, disorganized, rest- Ugh. Thanks YouTube! Why is this- Is it mapped out? Nahh it's flashed. Here we go. Like the channel keeps changing in your mind and you can't get through the remote. Are you okay? Is that a missile? If you felt- I hate this... It's just like spinning beach balls isn't correct. ...your whole life, you may have adult ADD What about you Ant? A condition your doctor can diagnose and treat With prescription Stratera, the first FDA approved medication for adult ADD. Stratera can help you stay focused so you can get things done at work and at home. Slave? You should not take Stratera if your taking an MAOI or have narrow angle glaucoma Tell your doctor if your have a history of high or low blood pressure, increased heart rate... You should see this commercial! This woman like she needs to double her dose. She does not look good

16:29 Wow, extraterra. Yeah let me get this... Let me figure out what we're going on here. Atomexetine? Hmm. Let's see what that is. Dr Barkley who said that SCT is a newly recognized disorder also has financial ties to Eli Lilly! Oh really? Interesting. I've never heard of such a thing He received $118,000 for consulting and speaking engagements okay Good money. It's more than were getting No kidding no kidding and did you find anything on the doctor McBurnett? Anyway, I thought it was just a I thought it was kind of just a really nice little little thing to add There's two million kids in America who have sluggish cognitive tempo disorder SCT check your kid. I think your test is valid John if you throw a Wad of paper at the kid the kid goes what oh

17:27 and it bounces off his head. He's got SCT? Before he can even move his arm to stop it, that would be a slow thinker yeah yes that daydreamer! That would be the what the test of doctor should do you sit down crumple up the piece of paper and then toss it right into kid's forehead see what happens oh man yeah perfect okay so this is not No something-something uptakes. Selective reuptake inhibitor? Ah yes I can't figure out what this drug is, what it does or where it came from It's good though right

18:14 No, no. That's perfect It's probably bad for you You know I received a...I got a back and forth email with someone Ham of course Excuse me And see the hams all sending you notes Yeah oh yeah 73 is good buddy Oh no they don't say good buddy that CB talk We don't say good buddy 73 isn't 88 for the XYL The YSL whatever Regarding The pinger the underwater locator for the so-called black box of the Phantom aircraft that is still being reported on CNN every minute. It is, I know it's unbelievable! By the way every single time you see Richard Quest... You know Richard Quest? He's that British guy who was on CNN and he's their aviation expert

19:09 Tell me you've seen this guy. Yeah, okay every single time I see him I just remember back to 2008 when he was arrested in Tompkins Square Park in New York with meth in his pocket, a dildo in his butt and uh...a rope around his testicles. He had a dildo on his butt? Yes! And a rope around his testicles and meth in his pocket Was this reported I remember- Yeah no yeah this is the New York Times That's why I keep reminding myself of this fabulous event And this guy is now telling us with some great authority. Yes, whatever your news media ladies and gentlemen he's got a pinger in his butt yeah this is this is a great story and when the cops arrested him because he was kind of a predicament because he had this rope around his nuts I can't really move He said I have meth in my pocket! What a dube

20:11 Can't believe that. You gotta get... Oh, Central Park! I'm sorry not Tompkins Square. Central Park even worse. 64th Street West Drive around 340 AM. Ah gee. I have meth in my pocket he said. Anyway so this ham questioned me. That's the same guy? Yeah that's the same guy that's why I always tickle him. Because his name is not uncommon No it's that's the guy its the guy from CNN its Richard Quest from CNN Um, you know that's what they have to hire nowadays. You know the times are tough he probably gets paid a quarter of a million dollars This was 2008 when this happened It was not long ago Yeah well so this ham says you know Adam really when this battery runs down it is very easy regarding 37.5 kilohertz

21:05 Versus 33.1 kilohertz, which of course no no thirty three point three I'm sorry thirty three point three Which in our book means okay? There's the code this thing is obvious bullcrap otherwise They don't pull that number out and so I'm gonna go take a look and look at the company that makes this I did some work Look it is the DK 120 beacon Here's a couple things that I found that are very interesting. First of all, it is indeed rated 30 days on the battery but after 30 days it will not change in frequency their spec actually specifically states that it can vary by plus or minus 1 kilohertz from this 37 point 5 kilohertz But what does happen? Is when the battery starts to run down Because it's an it's an acoustic beacon

21:57 The beacon will then... Okay, so its acoustic output is 1060 dynes per square centimeter of RMS pressure. But after 30 days when the battery starts to run out it's not like all of a sudden, it's just done! Then it drops down to 700 dynes per square centimeter RMS pressure I have no idea what that means of course but I do know that it doesn't die after thirty days But also the pulse of this pinger, you know how they're like oh we picked up a ping! We picked up a ping!! This thing when operational pings for nine milliseconds every 9 tenths of a second. So it's pulsing continuously. Yeah, yeah, right. Continuously but here's something that I found that was in the Federal Register of all places

22:57 As, when the French Air France plane went down in 2011 they changed the rules with the FAA specifically but for all aircraft worldwide ICAO rules that underwater locating devices now have to have batteries that last 90 days and this rule was literally put in place three days before this flight went down. Was the rule hat what was the implementation? Well, the M was a rollout. Did it have to be no No didn't have to be on this plane But I just found the timing of that incredibly coincidental for some reason yeah I don't think there's really anything to it but I did find it interesting that this plane went down pretty much a month before everyone has to start rolling out these new Beacons with 90 days and

23:55 And there's all kinds of issues with this because if it's a 90-day battery then it's a lithium ion battery that could be deemed dangerous. There's all kinds of stuff like that, but anyway just running across those specs you know this thing is not going to float all of a sudden down or drift down to 33.3 kilohertz that's not according to its spec So what did the ham guy say to you? You never finished. Oh and he said, uh surely you know from the Heathkit days that when your power goes low... It's just like this is not a Heathkit! This is an FAA certified piece of equipment. This is not a self-built ham Heathkit And then he came back at me said do you know what Heathkits first kit was?! An airplane Was it? Yeah I didn't know that either yeah The first Heathkit was an airplane

24:44 But anyway, this thing does not just stop after 30 days. It will reduce in its pinging output pressure level... We call that loudness. Acoustic output is what they call it acoustic output but also will not drift that far down in frequency and it pings continuously! It's not like a World War II submarine. Forward ahead one bubble So everything that is now being shown on television and being prognosticated by the guy with the rope around his testicles and the meth in his pocket, it's bullcrap. What was the rope doing around his testicles? Was he at some S&M club in New York or something like that? That one...that was never made clear

25:39 I think somebody should have asked him. Maybe they should ask him now! It's kind of like, what were you doing? Maybe we should... something we should... Exactly what are you up to? Or just give it a shot. I don't know. Wouldn't it be funny if Aaron Burnett all the sudden just said Richard, I have a question That would be her last day on the job. No, she's gonna marry some millionaire billionaire unless you wouldn't marry a million. She's already married to like a Wall Street guy I think oh yeah she has a kid they got a kid together Oh damn it she doesn't need to work anyway so she just being told to work Anyway all very good news and here's the best news of the day

26:20 Grand Green Rail Don Rav and Laura Poitras in the country. No problems at customs! How was your return back home? Did you experience any difficulty at the airport? No, it was very smooth which is what we expected which is why we came back because we didn't think that the US government would do something really counterproductive and they didn't so we're happy about that. I thought Laura Poitra always... Wait a second, Greenwald? Yeah, it's Greenwald in New York And he came in with Poitras? I thought she always got stopped. Oh, no! She's such a dumb blowhard that he answered the question before she had a chance to bitch. How was your return back home? Did you experience any difficulty at the airport? No, it was very smooth which is what we expected which is why we came back. Oh my god I just had a story to tell and now you blew it for me! Because we didn't think that the US government would do something really counterproductive and they didn't so we're happy about that yeah So Greenwald's in the country? They have to pick up an award

27:17 It's a pick up an award also the guy you can count on that done the $25,000 of pop plus of 25 000 what he's going to get speaking engagements all over the place and a few freebies at a couple of colleges. Oh really is that is that really what it was? What he's doing here to do this to pick up some dough guarantee it You're gonna start seeing him giving speeches. There's gonna be a lot of universities which is low money He'll get depending so you see they get from zero which will probably work for to about 10 grand maybe for some of these college gigs and then he's gonna do a bunch of the corporate gigs those are going to get him 20 if he's got a good agent which I'm sure that all the agents will work form because it is not like getting exclusive agents they'll do it right and then he'll get 25 grand a pop on those and minimum

28:05 I don't think he's got the wherewithal to get more than that because he is going to have trouble rationalizing it. His enemy, Scaife... Scaife? What was his name again? Scahill? Scahill! Anyway, Scahill would like to get that kind of dough and so would Poitras but Greenwald has been out of the country so long as he is going to get the big speaking engagements and he will be lined up He'll probably do it for about a year This is just my guess. There's something inherently icky about him coming back into the country just to pick up an award? No, this is... Yeah because that's why and the speaking engagements I get it I get a good point he's got to make some money get back to Brazil bring back about I don't know you'll probably do about 10-20 gigs bringing back half a million bucks yeah nice before they often

29:05 Yeah, no one's gonna do anything. He's already been offed! He's on the intercept It'd be funny if they did a quest on him A what? A quest...a Richard Quest And gets found with a rope around his nuts and meth in his pocket I got meth in my pocket! Oh man Well he has no news that's for sure What was really interesting is this back-and-forth Bloomberg Bloomberg and let me see who is the reporter on this? Yeah, what was this I didn't get any clips of it but I kept reading about it. No there's no clips but so Bloomberg reported bloomberg.com that's my find who the reporter is NSA said to exploit heartbleed bug for intelligence for years Michael Reilly

30:07 And so he, you know very clearly reports. Oh wait there's a video here maybe we can I didn't know it was a video maybe we can get some of this from him This was on Bloomberg Television StreetSmart We'll probably get an ad so let me turn that down Here we go is it working anything? Yeah Very very clearly That the reports the NSA or other part National Security Agency knew about the The internet's heart bleed bug for two years, but instead of telling the public... This flash has got to go man. We've got this has got to stop I think it's your connection No no no decided to use the flawed gather intelligence Bloomberg News reporter Mike Riley broke this Come on! Ugh! So annoying all right. I get whatever yeah spinning beach ball. I'm sorry

31:01 So he so he breaks his story and then the NSA comes out very clearly Say no not at all. This is not true and our Our general bias this is also the language used by the White House The bias is to let the public know about so-called zero day exploits something that is brand new And it's just just kicked in right? Yeah, let me see maybe I can play this all work here we go So, this is actually what the NSA does. They find they have more than a thousand people whose job it is to really look at software code and especially really important software code that covers a lot of the internet What they're looking for is flaws. They are looking for vulnerabilities that they can use...that their hackers can use to get into computers

31:51 If you contrast that with the open source security community, they have a small number of researchers who spend a lot of time trying to maintain the integrity of their code and they just missed this one. The NSA did not. clear statement. Yeah, I would say okay go on with the thing because i'm starting to form an opinion as you develop this Okay well the only thing I would say is the last time a guy did something like this and was really kind of you know like noodling the government was when Bloomberg that reporter sued The Federal Reserve

32:35 Do you remember this? Mark Pitman from Bloomberg. Yeah and then he died of a heart attack at 52. If I were Mr Riley here, i'd be very careful unless you think that your thinking is maybe there's something else going on here Well if the NSA says they didn't do this in their policies otherwise... You know they did do the other thing which is to tell people There's a problem with the flaw in the story is his report which says The NSA is looking for these flaws so they can spy on people essentially to boil it down Which makes zero sense because they have all them all the means there are two spy on people They don't need other ways despite me making spy on us effortlessly now

33:18 Why do they need to be doing this unless it you know, I mean just makes no sense It makes no sense So if the NSA says and I'll take him at their word that we've no we didn't do that. It's bullcrap We don't what they should have said was no we don't do that as bull crap. We already have the mechanisms right place Right, so what would we want to do? This is stupid. I believe them hmm So there's something amidst the story is now I never thought because i first bought into it too that the NSA was sitting on this but when I heard this guy's report when he says that the NSA is looking always spending his time looking for flaws no they're not. Well, there's something else about this whole heart bleed thing that is bothering me

34:02 So I... Are you bothered by the logo? Where did this logo come from?! Well, so you know there's a lot yes that is that that's the thing it's like scratching at the back of my skull. I'm going mmm now but i think it doesn't matter and some this came about very quickly and if we still are going to contend that there's so now let's work backwards from this this is real-time processing were doing here So the Bloomberg, let's say this Bloomberg guy who seems like he's kind of in trying to be a little bit of a green walled look what I got hackers there at the NSA which is kind of the way he's talking. He doesn't sound like a technologist at all no he just sounds like a guy who's got a scoop so working back from that this is anti-NSA now one of our original thesis is this is CIA versus NSA

34:54 Fight that has been going on fight for the money. Okay? Yes, but for the budget for the budgets and now of course We know that there's people are trying to get the secret budgets out and to find out who's got what but it's it's all about The money so this bug was discovered by a number of people It's not entirely clear if it was at the same time or if they worked together But it was Neil Mehta, M-E-H-T-A who's a security researcher at Google which is CIA. We know that Google is just the CIA along with a company called Codomicon

35:40 So let's look at Kodamacon for a second. That's funny, I went to the Kodamacon convention in San Diego recently Really? Oh no no, that was Comic-Con, sorry. So June 30th so this is just six months ago or seven months ago Howard A Schmidt became chairman of Kodamacon's board of directors Howard A. Schmidt How do you spell Kodamacon? C-O... Charlie Oscar Delta Echo November Oscar Mike India Charlie Oscar November dot com Kodamacon, the market leader in security testing announced today that Professor Howard A. Schmidt was chosen as chairman of the Kodamacon board of directors. Schmidt is an internationally distinguished security expert who has served President Barack Obama as White House Cyber Security Coordinator

36:37 During the administration of George W. Bush, Schmitt served as the vice chair of the president's critical information protection board and special advisor for cyberspace security for The White House." So these are a bunch... this is a spook essentially. This whole company is essentially a spook company Yeah, it's probably run...it's probably highly financed by the government. So intelligence groups Oh yeah! Just look at the company and look at what they're doing. It's obvious on their website. Now this Neil Mehta who we don't know that much about his Twitter he had like three tweets in 2010 3 in 2011 and then all of a sudden this one The funny thing is when you look at a picture of Schmidt He just looks like every older spook in the business

37:29 So Neil Mehta all of a sudden discovers this with these guys and they're all thanking each other but they don't really explain the process how they found it. And then Neil Mehta gets a $15,000 reward from HackerOne! And HackerOne if you go to hackerone.com is effective vulnerability disclosure program making the internet safer by improving vulnerability research. Disclosure is good! This is a disclosure program sponsored mainly by Facebook and Microsoft, and they have all these donations that are... They talk about disclosures but it's very unclear where this money comes from

38:23 And when you discover a bug, then you can get a bounty. Disclosure is good they say all technology contains bugs it's inevitable that a member of the public will discover security bug in your software and how you respond reflects the maturity of your security program maintaining positive relationships with security researchers is one of the most effective means of providing a safe and secure product disclosure shouldn't suck So, Neil Mehta of Google who discovers this gets an imaginary magic $15000 although if you look at the... and this is a Dutch outfit by the way. This hackerone.com these are Dutch people so there's a Dutch company a Dutch organization who run this disclosure program let's see here our crew here we go

39:13 Here, Merijn Ter Hegen, Michiel Prins, Joorbit Abma. These are all Dutch people it's registered in the Netherlands the thing runs in Holland but somehow they get this money these bounty... That is because they're humble hosts of the internet bug bounty! There you go So it's very unclear where this money came from but $15,000 and what does Neil do? He gives it to the Freedom of the Press Foundation Which is Glenn Greenwald outfit there. There's little his little freedom of the press thingy were there You know, yes, he has poitras green pointress Greenwall usual suspects so this thing smells bad It just smells bad

39:59 Who's this Meta guy? What's his name again? M-E-H-T-A. Yeah, very hard to find any... It was a very common name for Indians. What's his first name? Neil N-E-E-L So Neil Meta donates Heartbleed bounty to Freedom of the Press Foundation Well let's take a look at his LinkedIn profile There you go That's something we can do Neil Mehta, Real Security San Francisco Bay Area Computer Network Security doesn't say that he's at Google. All the news reports say that he is a Google Well let see what it says this must be the guy because he is security guy The Google security researcher boosted fundraiser for online privacy tools passed its $100,000 goal by donating the $15,000 reward you received for helping to expose the heart bleed bug I thought he donated it to the freedom of press thing That's what it is

40:58 Oh. The Freedom of the Press Foundation. For what? They launched a fundraiser in December to support encryption tools that journalists and others... The Freedom of the Press Foundation? Yeah, that's what they're doing if you go to freedomofthepress.org You'll see on their homepage they are selling or raising money to create like their drop thing. Okay well here he is He's been with Google since 2008. Before that he was in research and development at IBM Internet Security Systems, which is where they got him from I guess. And then he was just a book writer, Shell Coder's Handbook and graduated with the Bachelor of Science from the University of British Columbia Really? He doesn't have a lot of stuff in here

41:43 Well anyway when I see all these things you have a spook company who discovers this with the guy who works at the other spook company and then he gives the award reward which comes from, who knows? Magic $15,000 from this company in The Netherlands and then he gives that to the Greenwald Poitras or non-profit. It's just a little too close for comfort Yeah it's too many coincidental names that we always discuss with suspicion This is an interesting little comment. He's got a one, you know they have these little things you know John's this and that you know these little comments that you can put in these LinkedIn profiles this one is weird he's a director of Azimuth Security his name is John McDonnell and it quote says Neil owns two ovens in the same house I don't really think it's necessary to say much more than that

42:36 What is one for baking children? What does he do with that? I don't know. There's no reason to say anything. So if you look at the Codomicon news archive, starting with April 8th, ZDNet story and OpenSSL Heartbleed bug found by Codenomicon TechCrunch story and OpenSSL Heartbleed bug found by Codenomicon It was all found by Codenomicon but there's no mention of Neil here So who found it? And why didn't CodeNomicon get the $15,000? Why didn't they get to split it up? You see this doesn't feel right. Here is the story from the International Business Times of these competing kind of douchebag operations Heartbleed Bug CEO David Chartier explains how

43:30 CodeNomicon found the massive internet security breach. Discovered a heartbeat but escaping hole, the key to finding Heartbleed said Chartier was developing a way to automatically test encryption software for vulnerabilities We attacked this software with unexpected messages and see how it reacts How did this guy get the reward if they did it? You see? Yeah no I think... wait here we go Ah, here's the explanatory paragraph. It's a growing trend in information technology security world to thoroughly test and vet software, Chartier said his team discovered Heartbleed about the same time Google Inc did. About the same time? Oh! About the same time. He felt it was important enough to make the general public aware of this serious threat that Bugg poses as that would encourage companies to upgrade their services. So they were coincidentally... Right

44:28 two guys. Okay, let me get this straight then... This is a bug that's been in play for two years and coincidentally two groups found it at the exact same time? Mm-hmm. Okay! Yeah and then the reward goes to the Greenwald Poitras Cabal? Yeah Perfect. I'm not suspicious about any of this And then on Al Jazeera we have experts or an expert talking about this and she's a lawyer from a Washington DC law firm, Alicia Hutnick was actually a partner at Kelly & Dryow & Warren. This is a very big Washington DC law firm and I'm not quite sure why she is brought in as an expert to talk about this of all the people Al Jazeera could get

45:23 I did find it interesting how this moron host talks about this. There were reports, Elisa that came out today that the NSA not only knew about Heartbleed but manipulated it Al Jazeera reached out and the NSA denied those reports Do you think its possible? that the NSA knew about this? Now I think she's here to run interference. Well, here's the question you know for two years... Wait wait no that's not the question! If someone answers the question well here is my favorite by the way for people out there who want to do this yeah well that's not the question you should be asking yes the question you should be asking

46:04 Exactly. So she's a professional spinster. Denied those reports, do you think it's possible? that the NSA knew about this? Well, here's the question. You know for two years this security flaw went undetected I think the real questions we don't know who was aware of this vulnerability We don't know what they did with it and... That's not a question! The tricky thing with this flaw is that it doesn't leave breadcrumbs you know in the past when you have had these data security breaches even able to look back and say aha here's where it happened here's the data was affected right how we can affect it. And that is not true by the way That is not true that it doesn't leave breadcrumbs, it does. The request if you send a request and its spits back at 64 k buffer whatever it is

46:50 definitely logs the IP address the request came from. So this is not true what she's saying? Here's how we can identify it with this one, it does not leave a trail at least not one that were aware of yet and so that's really the problem We don't know if NSA was looking at this. We don't know if others were looking at that data and using it And so that's really I think what has alarmed most consumers is not knowing whether their data was affected Okay you know what... Now I got news for you Not a single consumer gives a crap No one cares if you're like well, I gotta change my password. Okay password 1 2 3 You get the password one two three four now and i'm trying to figure out Well, i'm gonna ask you a question could this affect? The us military um us defense apparatus in the country now This is another fantastic question which she answers with such technical expertise

47:42 Well, so here's this was one encryption tool and the good news that we know so far is that this wasn't an encryption tool that was used for companies that handle highly sensitive data. This is not true! What she talking about? She saying that this isn't an encryption tool It's an encryption tool. Really? What is this, what a heart bleeds the tool? Yeah it's the tools she thinks! Right there were other much more secure not only encryption tools but layers of encryption because that's the key with data security you're not just relying on one gate you're relying on multiple levers of that. So I think, you know... Levers! ...remains to be seen at this point it doesn't seem like it's going to hit at the defense level its gonna hit the financial institutions but certainly nobody should be complacent at this point everybody is just running to see does it affect our companies or layers in security anyway? Alisa that was good

48:35 I got you on techno. What? Everybody is just running to see does it affect our companies, our layers of security in any way. Lisa that was good. I got you on techno. I'm hiring now. Lisa terrific! That was a good conversation. She has the privacy data and Security I think this is a radio guy who they put on TV. Hey, it was really good baby Yeah, yeah, what's your favorite station? Who just gave you this fabulous prize Z 100 that's right Alisa So the spin mice are out and then I don't know why this woman is Is there this lawyer is out there pretending like she knows what she's talking about And meanwhile when I really start looking On the boards and now I'm in above my head

49:30 But when I'm reading that OpenSSL is, you know, vulnerable because of its free lists. There's a whole bunch of reasons to just put questions behind the whole story in general It's very strange thing and it seems like the veracity with which NSA is denying this... They're really quite adamant And Bloomberg just saying, oh yeah it's true. Which I guess and if you take the story at its face value this woman saying oh no breadcrumbs! You can say whatever you want to say...I guess we're all stupid in the technology community then maybe it's a little hit job by someone who is more effective than Greenwald because he's out of powder

50:20 Mmm, that's an interesting idea but Greenwald was the most effective. Yeah but he's out of powder! He's been marginalized and kicked to the curb yeah even that way by the way let's back up on that a little bit That's obviously the reason he's back into the country to get his profile back up right? He's like oh my god I've lost it no one is calling They're probably calling him constantly now nobody is calling They are calling female lawyers who don't know nothing Right, Greenwald could have been on that show Yeah, he is. Well that's a good point his profile yeah let's see what he's tweeting this is this is good this is good let's see... He has got to be tweeting something to get attention. What was he talking about? Okay he's retweeting Jill Abramson okay always good he's congratulating someone from the Guardian on something what

51:16 He's trying to get back in their good graces, knowing he made a mistake. Yeah yeah... He says the worst person on television is Bob Beckle whoever that is? Bob Beckle is the left-wing guy on that talk show The Five Oh! That guy? That guy in the middle who was always making lewd comments. Yeah and then he hasn't really been tweeting it only three tweets today April 10th April 10th, April 11th he tweeted. April 12th... He's tweeting a couple days not much Instead of tweeting why don't you write something on that blog of yours Grenn? That's what it should be doing is writing something on the intercept On his 83rd birthday a reminder that Daniel Ellsberg was also smeared by that era's government loyalists as being a Russian spy

52:16 Still nothing new from him. Last time he wrote an article which is about the Cuban Twitter, which was not his story was a week ago. Well he was traveling! No not a week ago. Oh yeah not a week ago it wasn't. Okay well we need to keep our eye on this because I'm... The Heartbleed bug with this snappy logo and it's a good question where did this come from? All you know that was it was there before I even knew about it. Yeah, no the logo is right there And it's not a it's not a unprofessional looking logo It's not like some kid and then this $15,000 which all of sudden just floats around. I don't know it's uh No idea nope okay well another mystery solved kind of Well now here's the mystery

53:14 Of course, we're coming up on the anniversary of the Boston bombing which was I believe the 15th. Boston strong! That's right and a couple things happened...I didn't see meet the palm face the press But one of the so-called victims, Adrienne Haslett Davis who lost her leg in the 2013 bombings at the Boston Marathon finish line was apparently not happy about the interview she taped on Friday for this Sunday show. Apparently, the deal was that Chip Gregory would not mention the name Tsarnaev That was the condition she had You cannot mention that name

54:02 And apparently he did because she tweeted that she had left in tears. She can't believe the insensitivity of Chip. that he mentioned that in the interview. So I don't know what how they handled that on the show. That was weird yeah well, that'll be on tonight on one of the alternative shows make sure to record it right National Geographic is putting together a Boston Bombers docudrama and that will air this evening just you know kind of cement in the story that they've created for you and I'm sure they'll have lots of video, CCTV footage except for the actual video evidence that no one has seen except for the people on the inside but not even the governor of the great state of Massachusetts has seen the actual video of them planting these bombs so it seems like the ministry of truth is ready to cement that into your head. And then very unfortunate this is...I hate when this happens officer Dennis Simmons

55:08 who was wounded during the shootout with the Tsarnaev brothers where they killed that one kid. Mm-hmm Oh, he died! You mean the one? The kid that had the cops standing on his head Yes, that one And then he was run over by his brother but couldn't stop his brother Yeah but it was a shoot out apparently Somehow Yeah He died Oh... He had just taken his lunch break and he suffered a medical emergency in the gym A very unfortunate timing Oh, that's not good. Yeah I mean you know... How old was the man? I don't think he was that old! Let me see if there is an age here. He must have been in his 70s or 80s. He was 28. What?! Yeah, 28. He had a medical emergency in the gym. Let me get this straight

56:07 The guy who was involved in the shootout, supposed shoot out where the cop was standing on the brother's head and then the other brother ran him over and killed him. Later it turns out he was killed in a shoot-out right? And they couldn't shoot even the tires out of the car that must have just missed one cop by a foot! But this officer apparently was wounded during this shoot-out. And he was set to receive an award from the president for his bravery Huh. Mm-hmm and dead? Yes, there's not more play on these things these coincident deaths No He was a health nut love to do CrossFit road races play basketball he was according to his colleagues the picture of health Well, you know people do have sudden death syndrome Yeah, yeah It's just the timing is very unfortunate that it happens to him. Yeah doesn't get to celebrate John I'm just saying this so many people are dropping dead That's weird

57:12 Well, regardless of that I as always am very thankful for your courage John and i'd like to say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak Oh well then the morning do you Adam Curry and also in the morning all ships of sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there Your turn. Yes, and I'm yeah, um, I was bringing up the spreadsheet and like why are we gonna do this? But okay Thank you to our artists and thank you too Holy moly was it Nick the rat did we yeah, right Wow come back So Nick the Rat making the comeback against Martin JJ but there were a couple of very very close

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1:02:14 is in for 200 bucks and that concludes our producers, executive producers for show. Which show are we on? 608. 608! I feel bad now because you know we're taking next Sunday off We have one more show to go and yeah... You gonna go off on your little vacation or come back broke? It's kind of what it feels like Well, I find that they're very distressing that these numbers are so low and i'll talk a bit more about that when we get to the regular segment. Okay but they were uh Could be the newsletter didn't get a lot of distribution except for that guy in England Who was bitching about it came on the came on a Saturday? So he could can't donate on Saturday or maybe he's got some religious thing going on Uh whatever by the way The newsletter also comes out on Wednesday you can donate then

1:03:04 But yeah, I was looking at the numbers and comparing them to last year. And we have probably, I'd say 3500 more people on the mailing list and probably I'm guessing 10 X that for listening at least 35000 more people listening yet the donation numbers are down in terms of total donations by about 15-20% in terms of the total numbers which is around it was lousy including subscriptions it's about 200. Well you can blame it on anything you want, we're clearly just not doing what people want. People want more pinger

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1:04:49 They'll get you know, they go the parking alone is more than they would give us for over 24 hours a month of solid material or unless they just rather would I don't know. It's beyond me You know that Cody Wilson? Do you remember this guy he did the 3D he printed the gun yeah and then he And then now all sudden has a Bitcoin organization And he raised, I think he raised $50,000 on Kickstarter for something. Hold on a second let me just see what he raised Cody Wilson donation... This is really making me mad. Yeah somewhere I think it was a kickstarter but he raises at least fifty thousand dollars. Could have been Indiegogo. You could yeah with you don't even have to raise the full amount and just take whatever you can get so this guy he's uh he gets invited everywhere

1:05:48 What do you know the Oxford Union Society are you familiar with this? Never heard of it. It's kind of, it seems like as a TED thing Everything's a TED thing. Let me see what it is... Oxford Union Society? Isn't that part of the Oxford University? I don't know, it doesn't have to be! No but I thought this was something you would probably know about. Could be a place out in Mississippi, Oxford Mississippi The Oxford Union, here we go. I got it for ya' The world's most famous debating society Oh thats right, thats out of Oxford University That's a serious outfit, this Oxford University. They like to... yeah I've heard of it! Is that what we call an Ivy League school? Yeah if you're British... Oh it's an Ivy League School! So Cody Wilson is invited, this guy who raises $50,000 for Bitcoin

1:06:46 For freedom, print the gun! I don't know. I mean...I just went and bought one that's easier You bought what? We just buy our guns we don't have to print them Oh yeah no Here is the thing it is so hard to get a gun in America I do not know what were going to do Were gonna have to print them Well So Now I want you listen very closely And when you can handle anymore your gonna say stop the tape Now I will stop. We're gonna change the nature of this show from now on it's gonna be called John and Adam try to torture each other let's do this with long clips yes just see how much they can stand right okay go for that the audience they don't care so this is Cody Wilson and this is this apparently is how you need to speak if you want to raise money on the internet. It begins from

1:07:41 a conversation that i my co-founder have just two people are on the phone call and it comes from let's say a place of despair is or disparity maybe like a millennial places this pair uh... assertive exhaustion with particularly american politics but i mean the politics of the west uh... what we could say is that the post political the trans political moment um... he still liquidation democracy recognition that really does not seem is kind in this Had enough yet, Devorah? liberalism, think-liberalism but of course there's like an extreme amount of force and sovereignty and executive kind of power at work underneath this nice broad but very thin facade. From that place we thought well look we don't want to just... it was a gun conversation first I mean it was like well what would the world be like with

1:08:45 you know, semi-instantaneous access to a firearm. I mean what would that... how would that look? Is that even something possible? It began from this kind of firearm place and so often the question is put to me why did you want to print a gun? No it wasn't like that it was like finding we wanted to find technology that will complement this kind of hypothetical scenario we were discussing the And of course then our ambition grew once we realized, oh my god this is working. This is having an effect and then there was certain a certain kind of... Guy has got to be the biggest blowhard at a dinner party ever! ...a fatal theory that we employed A fatal strategy which I think will begin to kind of discuss toward the end of this so This project begins with us saying can you 3D print a gun? If you can doesn't that mean anyone else can do that? Taking a page out of WikiLeaks and Cablegate

1:09:49 Doesn't that mean that, you know this kind of is a self-negation of a certain progressive principle of the control or at least the channeling of manufacturer? Especially manufacturer these politically contentious object. I think he's high I think he's on Adderall. Yeah, well yeah that's... I agree, it's really... A bunch of bullcrap terms all sliced together saying this and that trying to sound smarter than he is because nobody talks like this You know I found online a new age bullshit generator Well that guy's been using it. Sounds like he was reading from it! Non-locality requires exploration, the world is really radiating superpositions of possibilities John. Yes we exist as ultrasonic energy balance is a constant

1:10:42 Consciousness consists of subatomic particles of quantum energy. Quantum means an unfolding of the psychic. Maybe that all seems obvious, but for us it was like oh my god if we could do this this seems to be on the table and you were willing To be the people to both develop that and put that into the public domain And so the first kind of premise was available which was the language about open source technology Now I can't even handle... I gotta balance this off hold on a second Number 243 Confucius say lipstick on collar more dangerous than lipstick on lip Okay, that was it. Yes very good very good So anyway my point is this this guy you know raising money hand over fist talking at Oxford University With this with gobbledygook people like oh yes Oh Cody yeah, yeah on right I said the same thing to my wife. Yes exactly okay

1:11:48 Do a movie quiz if you want to move right into that. No, no I have some actual stuff to talk about let's do something real here for a moment oh i'd like to talk about the propaganda that is climate change uh climate change uh we talked about that on the last show yeah but uh but i hadn't seen ann curry's special report year of extremes yet on nbc What year of extremes is beautiful outside? Well, we had a year of extremes and I want you to listen to this. Oh that's what that's right You know when super storm hurricane whatever you want to call it Big Sandy That was the indication that were gonna have a giant massive storm every single year Right well and that would sandy was last year right so there should be another one this year

1:12:40 What is... Oh no, I'm sorry. Sandy was in 2012 that know there then there was something big last year what was it? What was the big giant storm last year yeah there wasn't oh Okay go on if something is so hmm in the communication of climate change which by the way I'm going to say It is important to have this climate change meme This is this is the economy now This is everyone is so out of ideas that climate change was here see drugs shortchange they're part of the economy yes But we need a legitimate, we need to flow the drug money into something. We need to produce something with it." So I'll start with CNBC report about how we need to rebuild our cities because and this is really what what is coming out of this report and we try to follow the trend line of this latest IPCC report. Yeah yeah I'm seeing it clearly now The trendline is sea levels rising okay?

1:13:41 Sea levels rising if big sandy which is what they're calling it Big Sandy because of the at least a foot higher ocean level Apparently foot well, there's no evidence of this anywhere. They've talked about maybe an inch or two But okay in New York apparently was afoot and it could be four feet within another hundred years We need to rebuild everything we need to rethink everything restructure everything and they've got Guys like this we're about to hear on CNBC along with the you can hear some woman who is She's in the climate change department with some city They have these now yeah an expert in climate change Doug Foy advises city governments and planners on energy efficiency And environmental protection now that now. This is really big The New York Times had an article about a Dutch guy

1:14:37 And he's now like, he's walking on water in America. He is the Jesus and I know these guys. He is a consultant! Like a Waterworks consultant. Typical consultant guy bald head shaved head got that Dutch accent everyone's buying into it oh yeah and its easy they're taking taxpayer money and they're building all kinds of things which you know in 100 years they think will be necessary because of climate change So it doesn't matter whether it's going to happen or not. It is the economy, it is how money is flowing unfortunately its taxpayer money Urban planners are gonna have to deal with that by planning their cities around resiliency around adaptation

1:15:17 dealing with the threats and consequences of more intense storms. Which means everything from putting storm gates out in the ocean to moving building systems to higher floors. Parks will also become defensive like Boston's Emerald Necklace which serves as both green space and a floodplain surrounding much of the city, and then there is heat Harriet Tregoning is the new director of sustainable housing and communities at the Department of Housing and Urban Development. There you go, there's your department of climate change right there now listen to this she's a real card this one her mission is to help build a clean energy economy A clean energy economy? I need this job hi hey so what do you do what have been doing STEM TV oh my mission is to build a clean energy economy

1:16:04 Oh, yeah. Cities are looking for our infrastructure to be a lot smarter and... Smarter! Smarter! Smarter infrastructure To do double duty Double duty? That's a DP Handle stormwater but also help keep the city cool Generate energy, generate food Imagine those green roofs on the tops of buildings What if they grew food for restaurants on the ground floor Go restaurant food on the top of a skyscraper and let the rats get it. The whole building would be crawling with rats I love the imagination what if, what if those... And you can just see people going yeah that makes total sense Yeah I can see getting at the restaurant with the food from the roof

1:16:54 I want some of that grass-fed beef from the roof. What if we had green walls? Green walls! That could also help produce food and cool buildings. Let me go get, I'm gonna scrape some kale off the wall hold on a second i want salad for lunch as planners imagine corporate america is watching because the potential for profit is huge. Now cities are going to have to be rebuilt over the next 25 years. That means integration of technology and traditional infrastructure so people can use real estate in a more efficient and cleaner way Take transit, Toyota, Daimler, BMW they're already exploring service instead of ownership models of their cars And that brings us to sharing and back to how social change will affect our cities Yeah Sharing? Oh man

1:18:17 It never ends. Well, so that is the business side that CNBC then I think you're dead on this too this is exactly this is a although you know there's a problem here as usual which is that this looks like a pot at the end of the rainbow which everyone's trying to create the rainbow But it's like, you know watching Kleiner Perkins go deep into green and pretty much almost breaking the company. Because there is no money when you actually invest in this crap unless it's a total scam but if like if you were honestly trying to invest in a company... Right now you wouldn't do that You're not sure The only thing you gotta go scammish Yeah I know you have to go get This is why its about the cities So this woman who you heard speaking she will have a budget

1:19:04 And she is going to, people are gonna come in with a flower point presentation and go look here's this we got these green walls and you can eat from it. You can eat the walls! Yeah I could just see some of Unch's guy. You could literally literally literally eat the walls! Um yeah no and we need to do a pilot project Yeah, we only need like give us a million dollars do a pilot project. I'm sorry So what am i thinking? We need we need ten million dollar pilot projects to start all right now on the other so that's CNBC That's the business side of General Electric You know this NBC Empire Now we have the consumer side NBC where we have to frighten the public

1:20:02 And this is so beautifully done, this thing with Ann Curry. Because they... you'll hear at the end of this report They have an artist render- everything is rendered By the way in the CNBC You also saw the buildings with green all over the walls and it was like restaurants with green people picking the green and eating it So this is, and make no mistake this does work on the psyche. This is how television operates you know it's no different than you know believing that you saw the Titanic so listen to her report and again it's all about the rising sea level

1:20:39 The rising sea level is where, that's the sweet spot of this scam. Duke scientists all agree that the sea levels are rising I want to get you to answer that directly do they all agree upon that point? They're so they all did the Duke scientists all agree on the rising sea levels. There is no disagreement That is by the way that is the setup for the thought process of the viewer. Yes, Duke scientists all agree that the sea levels are rising I want to get you to answer that directly do they all agree upon that point? There is no disagreement about sea levels rising That is measured it's not a model It's not a theory none of those things And what does measurement show us Wagner says... It's funny that the sea level is rising Is he some sort of sick pervert Why is he laughing That's what you do when your in on the game

1:21:26 But your point is excellent, Mr. Dworak Let's listen to him laugh again To answer that directly Do they all agree upon that point? There is no disagreement at sea levels rising That is measured It's not a model It's not a theory None of those things And of course the this is you know, we're all going to be very worried about these sea level rising. He's laughing he's not well No We're going to be worried because we're going to be the picture we get painted as a little different than the facts and what those measurements show us Wagner says is that sea level is expected to rise at least a foot more in the next 100 years You see The way they measured it

1:22:07 is that the sea level, according to this guy from Duke is a foot higher than it was 100 years ago. Okay I'm not a sematologist Oh, that's not what I've heard. Possibly three or four feet. Possibly three or four feet! I'm sorry... Wait a minute? How do you go from one foot to FOUR FEET?! Well possibly it's possibly... Rise at least a foot and- higher. What!? Say what?? It says possibly a hundred feet higher. Why don't you go there? Yeah, well the wait for the artist rendering rise at least a foot more in the next 100 years and Possibly three or four feet maybe even more Maybe even maybe less but why say that let's just say maybe even more Attention we're about to scare the bejesus out of you Is it your sense that people will have time to get out of the way boo

1:23:06 You got a hundred years to get out of the way, I think so. What are you talking about? I'm a slow walker! The bus goes by and everyone goes oh my god look at this we're standing in water honey how long has this been going on that's It depends on who you are, where you are and what your resources are. Yeah if you're tied up in a wheelchair and put it on the coastline... yeah! If you're in extremely low-lying area like Bangladesh people talk about a foot and half of sea level rise displacing 10 million people If you're in the United States and you have resources, it could be that what will happen is areas right on the coast could get damaged but they will be able to move to interiors. A recent study by The World Bank lists cities around the world with most to lose economically from rising sea levels

1:24:00 5 American cities make the top 10. Get ready, American cities! Because smart new thinking is coming to your town soon... You'll be eating green stuff off the walls Miami New York New Orleans Tampa and Boston Consulting sea level rise maps and topographical data Artist Nikolai Lam Now listen to this now is the artist rendering who consulted some maps He looked at some maps and then he just made up some stuff. So this is not a cematologist, this is not a climatologist...he's an artist! And so you just close your eyes John and imagine the visual. Try to visualize what America under siege from the ocean might look like

1:24:43 Here's what he imagines would happen to the Jefferson Memorial. It's a sea rose by 12 feet. Here is the Statue of Liberty at 25 feet. I've been to it, the feet are way more than 25 feet in the air. Lam is not a scientist and his projections may be overly dramatic because most scientists think that a 25 foot sea level rise wouldn't happen for centuries if ever but these images especially of South Florida do make you think so it ain't never gonna happen but... It does make you think makes you think Here's lam's illustration of Ocean Drive in Miami Beach Florida

1:25:31 at 5 feet of sea level rise, at 12 feet. At 25 feet he imagines the thriving beach mecca might be underwater." Yeah! Yeah! So there is your NBC Comcastic empire on the business side and on the consumer side setting up the scam. Setting it up. I'm surprised that Comcast people who are fairly conservative are putting up with this crap. You know? I'll stay on this for a moment As we have... A new meme alert, everybody! John you and I as proficient publishers of many books are in good fortune my friend. There is a new category of book- a whole new category of writing that i think we can get in on the ground floor And I'm going to play this clip from NPR our national treasure

1:26:41 We play commercials every 15 minutes. I'm sorry, underwriters Listen at the end of this report and you will hear the new category that we can slide right into. Nathaniel Rich wrote Odds Against Tomorrow The protagonist is a boy genius who spins out worst-case scenarios and sells his elaborate calculations to corporations But not even he predicts that hurricane will inundate New York And, of course, Rich had no idea his novel would be so timely Yeah it was eerie but I think this is the time that we live now You know? We live in this time where Our worst fears are being realized regularly. Rich's novel, out this month is the latest in what seems to be an emerging literary genre over the past decade more and more writers have begun to set their novels and short stories in worlds not unlike our own where the earth systems are noticeably off-kilter Can you name it yet? The name of the new genre is coming do you have any clue yet

1:27:41 I think we need a new type of novel to address the new type of reality, which is that were headed towards something terrifying and large and transformative. It's the novelist job to try and understand what is that doing to us. Oh John, I can't wait! We're going to be so good at this Of course science fiction with an environmental bent has been around since the 1960s Think The Drowned World by JG Ballard But sci-fi usually takes place in a dystopian future Cli-Fi happens in a dystopian present You talked over it Cli-Fi I'm sorry? Cli-Fi Cli-Fi as in climate fiction Yes

1:28:29 Well, there you go. I think they nailed it! Climate fiction perfect! But sci-fi usually takes place in a dystopian future. Cli-Fi happens in a dystopian present. Cli-Fi? We're in the dystopia is that what they're saying or no the dystopia present is fictionalized we have so we fictionalize modern dystopia which by the way my movie clip today is one of those things from the 80s mm-hmm uh which is dystopian Dystopian presence would be almost any of the diehard movies. Any movie at all that's being made today is dystopian, but it's not realistic. My wife has brought this up we like watching certain junk TV shows that are very popular and they're eating candy and NCIS LA is one of them

1:29:25 and NCIA, Mimi says you know if this is this show it's like as though in Los Angeles on a daily basis there are shootings everywhere and attempts to blow up the city you know every single day by the...if you watch this show. Yeah yeah. Dystopia! Yes Well, so is bullcrap. Yes! It's just entertainment as the whole climate thing is I'm now convinced of it as a form of entertainment. Cli-fi. It's now cli-fi. I like it and I have a little surprise for you... I also think cli-fi could be like a moniker for some sort of chick lit but you're gonna have to think about that one for a minute. And now its time for another episode of Guess That Movie However, I want you to guess my movie John

1:30:17 I'm turning the tables. Oh, that's a good one you turned the tables on me i didn't expect that well you can believe Mr Pecker my name is Peck or you could accept the fact that this city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportion what do you mean biblical? What he means is old testament yes mayor real wrath of god type stuff exactly fire and brimstone coming down from the skies rivers and seas boiling 40 years of darkness earthquakes volcanoes the dead rising from Yeah, Ghostbusters. Oh very good! Very good... Come on you're talking to me

1:31:20 You gotta come up with better stuff than that. I thought it would fit in nicely with the cli-fi. Totally, well that was a dystopian situation... Yes Okay now you got to play my clip and tell me this is more of a dystopia Wait wait This is a dystopia era but has all these nice memes in it like Maybe I should have you killed Who's gonna complain? You always violate people's constitutional rights This is my jail, Kirstie And I'm the law That means I get to violate your constitutional rights. Son of a bitch! Come on, you guys! And now it's time for another episode of Guess That Goonie Was that um... Revenge Of The Goonies? Death Wish 3 It's always Death Wish 3 No, last one was Death Wish 4 Huge difference

1:32:26 Meanwhile, the only people who actually have it all figured out are the Japanese. Ever since the Fukushima disaster Japan has imported large amounts of oil and gas to replace its lost nuclear power costing tens of billions of dollars And now, this government says it must face reality. With the understanding that there is no energy source which excels in all aspects of stable supply, cost and safety we aim to opt for an energy supply system which is realistic, pragmatic and well balanced There you go! They're smart they are turning back on their new power plants Yeah, they are geniuses

1:33:07 I got two Japanese clips, kind of interesting. I thought okay tried Japanese criminal justice. Massive injustice has been served in Japan the longest-serving man on death row sentenced to capital punishment a massive 48 years ago has been released from jail Iseo Hakamada has been freed after DNA tests undermined a key piece of evidence against him amid suggestions that police investigators may have fabricated story to frame him. The Sponsor and Cast Marie Linton and Justin McCurry report human rights defenders So the case highlights many disturbing facts about Japan's criminal justice system, which has conviction rates of over 95%. Hmm. So nobody is suspicious about this 95% conviction rate? No. Of course the yakuza run freely around Japan there's no problem they never get arrested for anything. That's the 5%.

1:34:00 The five percenters. Those are the right, those are the 5% that get off. Exactly! And there's part two is not just the lesser but it's interesting. The judges in the original trial were swayed by blood-stained clothes that allegedly belonged to Hakamada They included a pair of trousers that were clearly too small for him. Investigators bring in vulnerable people and use torture to get a confession out of them, this way of making false accusations is what happened not only to Hakamada but also other suspects According to the head of Hakamada's legal team, his client is another victim of a patently unfair criminal justice system. Judges feel they have a duty to maintain public security that unless they convict, a potentially guilty suspect will walk free this is why Japan's conviction rate is over 95%.

1:34:50 Campaigners believe Hakamada's case is yet another strong argument for the abolition of the death penalty in Japan. The only OECD country apart from the United States that still carries out executions. And we're going! 15th of May... Yeah, don't get picked up you'll be found guilty. Really? No I find that to be uh..I didn't realize it the Japanese system of criminal justice was THAT corrupt They should be ashamed of themselves. Well, I'm looking forward to my first conscious visit to Japan. Oh you've been there in your dreams? No when i was a kid when i was very very young...I don't really remember. Let me describe it for ya

1:35:35 You're sitting in a taxi. The taxi's not moving. Repeat! Isn't that like, that's Thailand? That's like Bangkok. Oh Thailand is apparently... I've never been to Thailand. Bangkok is ugh. Okay well that's Tokyo. So you've been there already. Well I haven't because- And usually the taxis are covered with doilies This could change. This is what's faddish, it reminds me of the crazy balls of crap that these taxi drivers in New York used to have. Those balls... That they would sit on? Yeah they'd sit on these things. I haven't seen that for years

1:36:12 I think it was a Middle Eastern thing, those balls. It was Pakistani? Oh yes! I asked them about those balls... They sweat less. I asked one of these guys and he said oh yeah there's some one- there was apparently one provider of these mats, these ball mats and they were made by some old lady who was making them and when she died I think their business went disappeared Well um.. Of course we have Sir Mark and Dame Astrid in Tokyo who will be taking care of us to some degree. Yeah, well they won't take care of you if get busted! I'll be on my own Of course by now pretty much everybody has seen the shoe thrown at Hillary Clinton which i found a couple things to be interesting about the episode one is that I didn't see Secret Service guys jumping on her and covering her and standing in front of her Good point Is that something...

1:37:11 Is that just something you don't do anymore if someone's no longer really in office? I think you still do it. Al Gore apparently shows up over at the in California with three or four of these jerks Oh yeah, no she has the detail but it's not like they were oh well let me protect you madam No! Not all Well they got there...they jumped a person I believe that threw this shoe They didn't jump her? No she walked out with their hands up That's right She walked out So there was no security But well... Well no, they ran over I know where you're going with this You're gonna say this whole thing was bullcrap I don't know exactly, but one of our producers sent me an email which i wanted to share. Because of course you know we have people who travel in all kinds of circles and this is uh one of our Texas producers who wishes to remain anonymous says I'm listening to the show and you're once again praying for Hillary to be elected

1:38:10 I want to tell you, I was at an oil industry event two weeks ago and the keynote was none other than Karl Rove. Being a big shot myself... well okay knowing some big shots we were at the next table and got to talk with him for awhile. I told him my dad would wet himself if we sent him a pic so he posed for this one and he actually sent me a picture of himself and his wife with Karl Rove And I was distracted, his wife is smoking hot. And yeah and then there was Karl Rove in the picture so there's proof about this guy's wife is hot Love or hate the man he knows his shit The man has a memory for facts like no one have ever known To my surprise that guys it is very funny too So anyway we were talking about Hillary 2016 and he said in all seriousness That he and most of the insiders of both parties don't think she's going to run

1:39:00 And this is what surprises me. The main reason is her health, he said you can't fall and hit your head disappear for a month and show back up wearing the glasses made for brain injury patients and expect to run for president! He repeated the same thing during his Q&A after the speech so this could be Rove really believing this? It flies in the face of our theory that she went away for a facelift and quite honestly The picture that was published of her ducking for that shoe? Oh my goodness, she looks like parchment. What happened to her face?! Well there may be two Hillary's... Hey! Okay. Alright It's possible she's not so distinctive looking that you can't have a double Right but do you think that she is actually now not going to run

1:39:56 Well, Rove doesn't think she's going to run but the ready for Hillary thing is too well established. There is nobody else that can do this job unless they're trying to slip Elizabeth Warren in but I'm convinced that she'd lose to a wider audience than she... yeah, she picks up Massachusetts because Let's face it, Massachusetts is an extremely liberal corrupt liberal state and they would always gonna vote a Democrat in no matter what. So she's there she's got her you know she's full of herself but she's so annoying. Hillary because she doesn't show her true colors I believe... She doesn't show us true colors and we have some people that would claim the same

1:40:39 She's extremely well-liked by her the way she presents herself and Put a you know trowel a bunch of makeup on her in the whole nine yards, and she looks beautiful She looks pleasant, she has a nice smile. That cackling laugh has got to go! Obviously I don't like this news at all because i desperately want her to run... ...I desperately want her to be president. I cannot imagine a world with anyone other than Hillary Clinton being President. Karl Rove is a misinformation specialist and he's done this before and was way off on the last election. Pfft, who was he? And so I'm not buying anything he's prognosticating. I think it is wishful thinking because these guys know that they're really screwed if Hillary gets in because she's going to, you know... She's gonna sweep it! Yeah, she's gonna screw these guys up. Well this-I can see as I predicted they're starting to push Jeb Bush

1:41:32 Jeff Bush hasn't got a prayer. That's why the latest thing he said it what was it? He said something really stupid oh I know I had I had this clip on the last show and I don't maybe I'd maybe I trashed It it was about immigration, and it was actually something that really angered me after having had my wife deported Oh yeah. He's on the wrong side of immigration, he is also on the wrong side of two or three other very important issues to Republicans so he doesn't have much of a chance. I think we're sick of the Bushes although they can manipulate it We are not sick of the Clintons? Now one guy that... well we had 2 Bushes and only had 1 Clinton

1:42:19 But we only had two Bush's for a total of three terms. So yeah, Clinton was Secretary of State you know she's been around. So the one guy that has a possibility of getting some attention and I don't like the guy in the least even though he's got good creds and you've gone over stuff before and he said from Texas is Ted Cruz. Yeah i think he's a snake he looks like a snake he acts like a snake and he says stuff like now I have this clip this is about the United States has kept the ambassador from Iran even though they keep saying I ran or whatever the year Iranian guy that was part of the 1979 pooch that took over the country and and took to hostage so-called a hostage crisis yeah

1:43:06 Cruz chimes in on this report. Iran is refusing to name a new UN ambassador after the US blocked the man from entering our country, the White House yesterday confirmed it would not issue of visa to an Iranian diplomat because he has ties to the Muslim student group at the center of the 1979 Iran hostage crisis 52 Americans were held prisoner for 444 days Elizabeth Prann with the latest tonight from Washington Elizabeth Hi, Harris. The Islamic Republic's choice for ambassador to the United Nations has been rejected U.S officials will not issue a visa to Hamid Abu Talabi Press Secretary Jay Carney pointing his ties to the Muslim student group that held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days during 1979 takeover of US embassy in Tehran

1:43:58 He's also accused of helping organize a 1993 political assassination of an Iranian dissident in Rome, but he was never charged. We've communicated with the Iranians at a number levels and made clear our position on this. And that includes our position that the selection was not viable position that we will not be issuing him a visa. The White House now needs to decide if it will sign the bill passed in Congress unanimously, which prohibits the nominated ambassador from entering the U.S.. Senator Ted Cruz, a bill sponsor encourages President Obama to send a strong message of intolerance towards terrorism This nomination of Hamid Aboudalabi

1:44:39 An acknowledged terrorist was intended to be a slap in the face, a slap in the face to America. A slap in the face to the 52 hostages who spent 444 days being tortured. Iranian officials reacting to the news writing in part, it is a regrettable decision by the US administration which is contravention of international law. The obligation of the host country and inherent right of sovereign member states to designate their representative to the United Nations. Tehran making it clear that country refuses back down on its nomination When I heard this story I had different take on it Well, my tic's not on the story so you can do that after I give you my Ted Cruz commentary which he was in there talking about how these guys were kept for 400 days and tortured. Where is the torture? That wasn't in the movie!

1:45:31 Here's one of the reports about the torture. This is as far as the torture went and this actually was cited in Wikipedia too. The cruelty of Iranian prison guards became a slow form of torture, this is the torture. Guards would often withhold mail from home Telling one hostage Charles W Scott. I don't see anything for you, Mr.. Scott Are you sure your wife has not found another man? Wait wait a minute in the movie What was it the? The State Department financed movie yeah Abedin was the special advisor what was it Argo Argo yes They did pretend to shoot them

1:46:15 They put him up against the wall. I'm just telling you that was in the movie, that might as well... That's hey, cli-fi maybe? In many cases Cruz is a terrible person! Here's my take on it okay this is a fig leaf to the Saudis um it's completely unimportant It's like someone went searching, oh what can we do? What can we do because obviously the Obama administration messed up with the Saudis by making Iran kind of the you know all were talking to him. These guys they could be the kings in the region and

1:46:55 And the Saudis have now started to talk to the Chinese and everyone's working on, you know maybe pricing oil differently. This is my constant theme I think this is just a pure fig leaf to the side who gives a crap an ambassador but look at who are ambassadors? Why use the word fig- I know what you're saying but fig leaf is not the proper term why not I don't, fig leaf is to cover up your nuts. That's what the fig leaves are for. I'm sorry there's no connection between it. It's a palm leaf? Olive branch! There you go. Olive branch not fig leaf. What's a fig leaf for those naked Iranian Iranians?! Thank you for correcting me Mr. Naworak

1:47:38 Yes, an olive branch. I don't know why it's said a fig leaf! I have no idea. I was thinking and listening saying where is he going with this fig leaf thing? It's an olive branch if you look at who our ambassadors are it's whoever could bundle the most money. Is there complete but Anna Wintour was a candidate for ambassadorship she runs Vogue magazine I mean this is ludicrous. It doesn't matter, the ambassadorships are... it doesn't matter some of them are of course real long-term diplomats. Yeah there are diplomats, those are usually CIA people yeah like my uncle but it really is quite irrelevant and this whole big story is just to say hey Saudis look we're looking well we had a strong stance and of course Ted Cruz will stand up as hey

1:48:29 Because he's all four of these all in on the system. I've seen guys walking around here with, and driving around with Ted Cruz bumper stickers. I have seen this in Austin. Yeah So you're right there that there's definitely something going on now while we're on that... That guy This, I'm sure... Ted Cruz will not play to the most of America. He won't play to the independents he looks like a snake. You know what? I don't care. A snake head and little eyeballs. I really don't care. I do but i'm not voting for any one of them so it doesn't make any difference. I'm voting for whoever runs in the Libertarian ticket. So we had this standoff

1:49:07 with the Bureau of Land Management and this Bundy Ranch guy? Yeah, I have a long clip of this. Actually put it on just on the off chance you'd bring it up if you want to play as part of this story Well let me...I'd like to If you have a better clip play it Oh no, I have a clip that's related but not necessarily about this particular story Now the way its being spun by our seed guy here in Austin Although I do not, but I believe he just copied the story. I don't think he did any investigative reporting himself That this whole standoff So the situation is we had this guy and he didn't and he didn't want to pay taxes of his cattle grazing On this land in Nevada which is his own land And I guess you have to pay three bucks per cattle unit per month or something. I thought it was about tortoises God knows what its about But what turns out that it may be about

1:50:05 is that Harry Reid was working on a deal with the Chinese company. It's a $3 billion deal, and Harry Reid's son is involved in this and they were trying to force this guy out of his land to put up some bull crap solar thing for this Chinese company. And it's like five billion dollar solar farm And the story as it's being spun here in Austin, Texas is that this came to light and Harry Reid is involved and even Holder somehow involved. And because they start to bubble up they're like... They kaboshed it pulled back everyone and all of a sudden it's okay

1:51:00 And now this guy can have his, they're gonna sell us cattle give him the fair amount for it. But this really was trying to force this guy off his land I'm going to believe that there's something to that story. I like the Harry Reid angle that makes more sense in the story That's a cover story which is he didn't follow some rules about the desert tortoise And he was gonna end up killing a bunch of these cows roaming all over the place. Maybe that was part of the story, but I think it's a part of this... Harry Reid seems like a real dick! He seems like a corrupt character. Let me say, a Nevada politician? Corrupt character? Yeah. Let me write this down and see if it makes sense. So someone put together this compilation

1:51:46 And who was Harry Reid's favorite guy to... guys to bitch about? I don't know, who. Coke Brothers! Oh yeah, Coke Brothers. They put together a compilation of Harry Reid every single time he said Coke Brothers this year alone on the floor of the house And it gives you an idea. I'll bet that this isn't even all of them because it'd be almost impossible to catch every little one. Mr President, you know I'm not afraid of the Koch brothers. Brothers, Koch brothers. Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch budget, Kochtopia, K-O-C-H T-O P-I-A, Koch budget Ryan Koch budget, Ryan

1:52:44 Coke budget. Coke Ryan budget. Coke budget, coke budget! I should put the Ryan coke budget... Coke Brothers not the Coke brothers. The Coke brothers. Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke brothers, Coke billionaire Koch brothers, multi-billionaire Koch brothers. These two brothers are about as un-American as anyone that I can imagine. Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, Koch brothers, billionaire Koch brothers Charles and David Koch, Charles and David Koch, Charles and David Koch, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's, Koch's,

1:53:33 I like that one. Coke money. Coke ads, coke funded, coke funded, coke brothers. Coke brothers! It just goes on. It just goes on. That's insane. Ugh...that guy Well they're probably partly tried- I think they're funding the candidate that ran against him and almost got him kicked out so he's probably gotta grudge Yeah but that's pretty insane And by the way Where is our money, Koch brothers? Yeah well that'll never happen. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab We have a few donors we want to thank for this show 608 609's coming up without the 0B69 it would be good time to donate on Thursday

1:54:36 Sir JD at 143 33 in San Jose, California. Oh by the way I have two...I sent you one email with it with a birthday on it mm-hmm and there's another one which came out yeah it said thirty three point three no agenda promotion by sir JD that's when I sent you right? Yeah it's a PDF It was? Well, I'll tell you what. Before we get to the end of this give me a second to look up the other one and make sure that when i sent it... You just got an email this morning right? Yeah yeah he has a PDF of what he put in the email Oh! And then you say in case you forgot uh you said please put in show notes In case I forgot please put in show notes Yeah you said I forgot the attachment though

1:55:35 No, no that's not dad. That's not the one I'm talking about you must have got here doesn't matter It's the same thing that's in the email it's fine. I'm comparing this is another email Anyway, we'll do it at the end But there's another guy altogether That I didn't send you anything about and I gotta tell you about he's gonna have to write it down by hand because it was A late donation that came in after the midnight thing And then I read it this morning And so he doesn't get credited for today's show for money, but his kid is having a birthday yesterday. So okay another one so we got should have three birthdays at least okay Sir JD sir Keith Edwards Gilbert Arizona 137 94 do what wait? Do we not hold on a second do we now not read this email that all the surge 80s and here's this whole Noah gender promotion oh Yes, this is the email we're talking about yeah No read that

1:56:28 Oh my goodness. I gotta, if i don't have my email open I get easily confused There have been way too many appearances of the magic number lately both in media at large frequency 33 dot 3 etc and in my private life pictures redacted okay In honor this cosmic confluence I will match donations of exactly $33.30 made it in the next thirty three point three days with the match going towards that producer's knighthood. Please include hashtag NAJD in your donation notes." So he has this whole thing, option one a $33 and 30 cent match of option two a 50 dollar match and option three a 333 dollar and thirty dollar in your name today only show up at booth number 411 at the Silicon Valley Contemporary Art Fair

1:57:20 What? What?! Alright, I'm putting this in the show notes. Just fine. He'll match and he comes in with 143 33 today. Huh! And he has a birthday shout out which I've got to say... What's that for? I don't know anything about this Silicon Valley art thing. I dunno, I'm just reading the note Yeah okay well you read it. Alright well let me tell you the other one if I looked up where we're doing that It's James Pyers And it's a son's birthday, EJ. So EJ Piers had a birthday I guess it was... It says on here somewhere yeah I think it was the 12th Yeah 4-12 for his son's birthday Well 4-12 that's wait that's coming up No wait that's when... That's yesterday

1:58:10 Yeah, yesterday. That's what I thought in the first place. I'm thinking 420. A 412 for EJ Pyre so put him on the list too. How is that last and first out working for you John? It's going well isn't it? Sometimes there are a follow up. And you wonder why donations are low... It's not the reason. Okay Keith Edwards Gilbert Arizona keep up with your excellent work 13794 LW Bauer in Albuquerque New Mexico 134.90, what's that noise? That's Miss Mickey He's got a we need an F cancer for his 43 year old wife We just have to stop and do that. Oh I hate that okay. I mean I don't hate doing it. I hate when it happens this is horrible You've got karma fucking cancer Michael Proctor $100 from Sydney

1:59:07 New South Wales, Australia. Aaron Murphy 999999! 999999 in Rio Rancho... New Mexico? Ah! Ah! Uh-huh! It happened What? Oh yes! It happened Yeah we got no 6969s It's done But it's been done before No but this is really done that was like a fake gun So you can stop playing with the theme Yeah We need something new anyway Yeah 6000 is my new donation value. By the way, I'm going to go back to Aaron Murphy's note because it was kind of funny he says been a while since he donated a bossy discussion from show 599 just killed me and i blacked out and donated before the euphoria wore off. And we need more guys like that blanking out Brandon Mixon 66 33 in Foley Alabama Matthew Parker Park Ridge Illinois $66 Jay Gerald walking

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2:06:55 Is what she turns on the 19th. And a belated happy birthday to our dear friend Farmer Chris here in Austin, Texas who turned 40 last Saturday! Happy Birthday from your buds here at The Best Podcast In The Universe! That's what Nikki texted me about... She texted you about what? Yeah, about Pharma Chris. I had it written down of course but she wanted to make sure i didn't forget Oh yeah, this is Chris. Pharma Chris he's like the propagator of the formula at the Austin market Good! Give him some discs to hand out Um...I give him CDs and when we had those bags with 33 bags gave them those So this weekend all the finance ministers are meeting

2:07:42 It's the G20 finance ministers and of course this is where you know, the rumor is that since the United States didn't sign off on the IMF 2010 reforms they're all gonna come up with their own secret system and screw us. And Charlie Rose had a nice little gig... Nice gig! He was able to kick off the whole thing there and he did a one-on-one chat With the... We need a nickname for her, for Lagarde. Do we not have a nickname for her? Christine Lagarde? No! We've never come up with anything.

2:08:27 Well, old leatherhead. Old leatherhead! Bam nailed it Wow Here's old leatherhead and Charlie just have two clips Just to kind of set the stage of how the elites of the world of finance are thinking and pretty much everybody is at this shebang Ukraine Tell me what the IMF can do will do wants to do. In whatever order you choose. Look at that! Do you hear that? That's the setup for what's going on, so this is a good example when you're at the office and people say yeah man we're really saving Ukraine from that Putin A-hole. Putin man we gotta protect those people. Putin is like he's evil evil evil evil

2:09:21 Now listen to what's really happening. Okay, what we want to do because it's our mission is to help I'm from the government. I'm here to help The country wants our help and the country wants Help and the help of the international community. Yes, so we're here to serve Ukraine as a member As paid its due is Paying its Reimbursement because we are it isn't it? Yeah, they already owe the IMF money which is nice help. What have we done The moment we were called we sent a team on the ground that were there they are crisis management experts I can just imagine this John is like Oh Leatherhead here yes, we need crisis management Ukraine quick come to Kiev

2:10:15 OK, we'll send the team right away. We're going to save the day! They know how to look under the skin of a country they know how to open books I'm going to look under the skin of your country! ...the books and check against reality and they did all that. They moved into negotiation mode and now what we call a staff agreement between the Ukrainian authorities and staff. I think that's like a staff infection, but i'm not sure. So these are due diligence people? Yeah yeah exactly! We look under the skin of the country... That might hurt. You know how we have ways of making you talk to get the reality of what's really happening with your books. Ukrainian authorities and staff. To address the key issues. The exchange rate

2:11:00 The fiscal consolidation path. Aha! The fiscal consolidation path, that is lots of words for austerity. The energy price, the structural reforms, the governance reform all of them so now Ukraine has to demonstrate its determination. So there are a few things that they have to do and I'm very pleased that this morning, they adopted in Parliament a new procurement law... These are conditions. Procurement law? So the IMF is...and Rose is right on money these are conditions so what that means is what they can buy and from whom

2:11:41 This is economic hitman stuff in front of your very eyes. It's fantastic to watch and the cavalierness that old leatherhead here is just saying, oh it was perfect! These are conditions before we move into the active phase when we actually disperse funds so once they've satisfied all these conditions... Ah! Once they've satisfied the conditions what do you think happens then John? Then they write a check A really big one Probably one of those giant publisher clearinghouse. Yeah, I'm a physical big check for honor will submit to the board of the IMF that includes Everybody around the table Oh, I love this whenever they talk about either the bricks or everybody around the table They never quite mentioned Russia including Russia including everybody else everybody else everybody else submit the program and

2:12:31 to give support to Ukraine anywhere between 14 and 18 billion dollars which will primarily go to Russia over the course of two years. And we're not going to give a big check... Oh, why not? the day after. It will be paid in installment as they progress along the lines of the program that they have adopted. So, the IMF will help design the reforms that are necessary in order to make this commitment on the part of the IMF? That's right. I did it with Greece yeah, see it is totally big check Cyprus yeah now This was a very this only have one other clip here was very interesting Here's what Rose said tell me about in this sexuality. It's in your I'm sorry some reason I confused wrong clip um This is about inflation

2:13:27 And I would like to hear your take on inflation and then we'll hear Charlie Rose, and then Christine Lagarde's take on inflation. What exactly is inflation? And what is it used for? Is good or bad? Well there are a lot of theories whether its good or bad But you're asking the wrong question. Ah, the question is... Thank you. So inflation is the process of allowing the net worth of the country to increase as the value of the currency decreases in a way so there's actually a word for this and I'm gonna have to dig it up because I meant to think what it was. Theft!

2:14:11 Well, this is the idea is with the way I understand it. The way it works is a natural process where you have a shortage It can only be solved by raising the prices. You know, this is an economic model that by raising the prices so that people who can afford these items will get them because they'll pay more it's almost like creating an auction market on-the-fly very similar in that regard and then but that brings everybody now to get that same product you have either make more money or demand more money and then by demanding more money it creates of inflationary spiral

2:14:51 Which adds to the it's a complicated scam. It's a scam! It's theft, so the way I have always understood it is you create inflation by inflating the money supply That's one way to do it, certainly. That's the easiest way and that way the purchasing power of the money you hold in your hand actually goes down but this is an economic system so there is growth but its really a bunch of bankers scamming everybody That's that it some level you can say that let's listen to Charlie Rose and then to Leatherhead I'm trained in the law as you are but you went on and learned economics, and I did well He's trained in the law. I don't know what that means he is a lawyer. I think Charlie's a lawyer I didn't know it was a lawyer now. How do you know we know she's a lawyer because she ran Baker McKenzie lawyers? She's a lawyers manager yes, I always thought that inflation was a bad thing um

2:15:50 But it seems to me that there is a conversation about inflation that I don't quite understand. What is it we need to know about the impact of inflation on the global economy today? Well, first of all, I regard you as highly read and trained in all sorts of matters so to discount your economic understanding is a bit of an overstatement but mine is probably not better than yours I certainly hope so. That's right! Elites having fun on the podium. Well, common sense sometimes is worth a lot more than highly sophisticated theories but back to inflation...I think it was a few decades back particularly when monetary policies were declared better as flexible A certain amount of inflation was determined

2:16:50 Good and helpful Helpful for growth because if you know that it might be a bit more expensive tomorrow or the day of next week It prompts you to actually decide to spend your buy equity You buy clothes you? Decide to go for The car that you always wanted to have and so on so forth because it's a bargain today And it will be more expensive tomorrow these people must be rolling in dough. They're buying clothes to buy that car they always wanted because it would be more expensive tomorrow. This is how the elites view the world. This is very interesting to me. Well, there's a couple of things I want to interrupt here for a second one of the things about inflation as you often have the problem with hyperinflation which is different than inflation normal inflation is what she's talking about yes but hyperinflation and some of these other things that can happen aren't really beneficial to the banks it mean it might be because people will throw their money into a bank that can keep up with the inflation the Brazilian banks are fair fairly good at doing this but what

2:17:51 What real big inflation manages to do is it makes money so cheap that if you took out a loan for like $100,000 and you have an in runaway inflation now you can pay back the loan with cheaper money. screwing the banks. Right, so it's a double-edged sword... That's hyperinflation now we're just talking about inflation which is in my view is just transferring money from the citizenry to the elites that's the way I see it well that's where you see everything yes shouldn't be too much of it because otherwise you run into a very disrupted scene and

2:18:31 A certain degree of inflation is good, which is why quite a few monetary systems adopted either the objective of inflation like the ECB or target like the Fed and some of them abound within which to keep inflation so that it's under control but high enough so that it stimulates growth going forward. Never in school did anyone teach me about this Yeah, they don't teach you about anything in school. No! And I want to also mention something else since we're talking about these kinds of things deflation which is the opposite which does happen it usually causes depression and creates deflation where people can't sell anything so they keep dropping the price mm-hmm which is deflation that... The point that.. The reason these people are

2:19:20 this group of thinkers thinks a little bit of inflation is good because deflation does just the opposite. If you think, say you're gonna buy a new computer and if you think that computer is going to cost less the longer you wait... Then I'm not gonna do anything You just keep waiting it gets so damn cheap and get it for free but okay go on That's not good for the economy. I just found interesting how these people Run our lives of course they do yeah, but not everyone thinks about it in those terms Those people don't care. They just want to talk about the missing plane I Love looking at this stuff. I really do III find it fascinating and when these people are all getting together and all

2:20:14 I gotta get this term and this explanation for this one thing. It just doesn't come to me, and i'm gonna have to bring it up in the next show. I'll find it Hey good news about Haiti There's never good news about Haiti Oh there is nothing but good news Well what? Another US hotel is headed to Haiti! Oh that's fantastic Who's doing it? Hilton Worldwide will bring a 152 room mid-price hotel to Haiti's capital This was announced by the chain. It's actually going to be in Port-au-Prince, it's not gonna be in... We're gonna be right by the airport! Oh an airport hotel? That's right. That way nobody has to go into town. That's right The new Hilton Garden Inn will be the third US brand Did you know that we already have a 106 room Best Western Premier Nice And under construction of 175 room Marriott

2:21:08 Why don't they just legalize gambling? That would solve the island's problems. These hotels are of course for the economic hitmen that are in there now, and of course the Heineken people who are investing their $100 million dollars in their brewery. They already have a brewery there apparently doing upgrades apparently. Ah well you gotta get these people to drink more beer! This will be the first Hilton Garden Hotel in the Caribbean also the first time Hilton will be in Haiti It's funny how that works with people still... What did they have again? What illness did they have, John? It wasn't good. I think they had strep throat was it? No no the pooping disease. Was it cholera? Yes! Cholera that's right. That's not really normal to have cholera. No I think they got it from the UN peacekeepers. The UN came in and brought it purposely. Well who knows if it was purpose or not.

2:22:08 So this hotel will be done and open for business just in time for President Michael Martelli, for his 2016 re-bid or after his five year presidential term. So it'll be perfect! Everyone will have a place to stay Well, just so we know that we're not just stealing goods and services and things from the Haitians. We do it to ourselves too apparently every so often they try to keep it out of the news so the public at large doesn't know this is going on I never heard this story except on France Van Cat. It's a very elaborate story where the FBI has decided that some old fart, 90 year-old man who has been collecting stuff all his life and they figure they just confiscate it and figure out later what to do about it. This is the personal regime of the FBI. Yeah, I've heard about this story. Now then have you ever either as an adult or perhaps as a child collected anything?

2:23:05 Perhaps stamps or just shells. Well in the US, FBI agents have seized a series of arrowheads pots skulls and even a full skeleton from a 91 year old antiques enthusiast who's been collecting these items since childhood Jonathan Crane reports it remains somewhat of a mystery how on earth he came into the possession so many ancient relics In sleepy rural Indiana an FBI investigation is underway Over the past few days, officers have been loading trucks with a treasure trove of priceless goods. Some they think may have been acquired illegally

2:23:41 But this is no mafia job. The house belongs to this man, 91-year old Donald Miller a World War II veteran His amateur museum connected by underground tunnels looks like an Aladdin's cave Amassed over eight decades Miller's collection ranges from Native American tools to ancient Chinese pottery The experts are almost speechless I'm frankly overwhelmed. I have never seen a collection like this in my entire life except at some of the largest museums." The FBI is continuing to scrutinize the artifacts with the aim of returning them to their countries of origin, but the law in this area is complex. Authorities won't say if Miller has indeed committed a crime

2:24:26 Over the last several months, an FBI investigation has determined that Mr. Miller may have knowingly and unknowingly collected artifacts, relics and objects of cultural patrimony in violation of several treaties, federal state statutes Miller is cooperating with the FBI. The pensioners never made a secret of his vast collection He used to take schoolchildren on tours of his museum which even featured on local television A few years ago Do you have any analysis of this because I've seen the report that's been out for a couple weeks now Well, this is it. I think I don't really have any analysis as that's anything but superficial Then you're no better than CNN

2:25:05 The guy, yeah but they don't say anything. They just run the story. The guy obviously some neighbor has a feud with the guy so they trumped up this thing and called the FBI this is to say something see something turn your neighbor in there's no reason in the world for this to happen in the first place the FBI sees it as something they can steal This is just thievery. They don't have any evidence about anything! The guy's just saying, well you know it may or may not have done something we don't know but we're taking all the stuff and all the videos that are hauling all the crap out of his place he's a hoarder let's face it. He should've had a museum he could put a museum together and had a little shop with a museum in there would be fine gift shop yeah but you know he's not gonna sell anything so it's not a gift shop but he could make a museum as you know people do this all time people collect lots of art

2:25:59 I mean this happens all the time. Somebody's like 90 years old, they find a guy dies and he's got an art collection to die for and they put a museum up and put the art in there This is very common So what is it with this guy? What makes him so special that they're stealing his stuff Are you perhaps highlighting the story because it could happen to someone You know It's possible As someone you know Any amateur archivist Mm-hmm Who has the Confucius say book for example? Possibly be actual Confucius a book we wonder what he's doing with this Confucius say book We don't trust him. He's really weird. He wears Crocs

2:26:44 I don't wear Crocs. Yes you do! No, no, no, those are Speedos Oh i'm sorry they're not even crocs they're fake crocs Fake crocs? I don't wear those anymore the ones your talking about Those are long gone they've worn out I wore them too often Well what shoes do you have on right now? I'm wearing socks I got socks on I got no shoes What kind of socks Gold toe? Really? Oh, okay. Black gold toes? Are they knee highs? No, no. They're just the regular ones. The knee-high ones are hard to find and the problem when you get the knee highs is that you never always get knee high so you pull socks out of the thing and you got one long sock in one short sock I gotta tell ya something You feel like an idiot My wife...and my daughter too by the way they laugh at my socks when I wear them once in a while I'll wear shorts and sneakers not like yeah shorts

2:27:45 And I just had white socks and they're laughing at me. Ah, look at you douchebag! And they make me wear these socks that don't even cover your ankle? Are you familiar with those little socklets? Yeah That's so god- Oh and I hate them but... You looked like an idiot wearing those No they all think I look good No, no. Yes! Probably look good to other men too if you know what I mean? Well... yeah. They're trying to marry you off But now when i when i look around and see dudes with those white socks pulled up halfway up their calf like yeah I think it looks better we just had a little socklet but its an annoying experience if your not used to it because you feel like your ankles are exposed Yeah, I wouldn't do that Well You don't have a wife living with you

2:28:36 That's true. This is another good reason to have all kinds of separate houses You have such an amazing lifestyle So apparently the doctors... Have you ever seen this show? It's a slightly influential show, they're talking about Coachella Oh, the douchebag concert thing? Yeah. That! The concert where everyone gets stoned and it costs hundreds of dollars to get in is ridiculous. It's Burning Man for douchebags So... so... And I said so twice here. I'm sorry The there I caught this little segment, and I have to say now. This is one of those shows that slightly influential It's a California Los Angeles show and I have to give these guys credit for soft pedaling pot And I just thought it was very cool that they did this I really don't know what to play the doctors Yeah, I don't see that. I don't see oh, I'm sorry

2:29:34 This is like oh, I could just record that girls and women but some boys too. We can't forget about that going through these drastic aggressive dangerous diet measures then going into a situation that we just heard about hot dehydration alcohol some illicit drugs You're literally taking your life in your hands if you engage in this it could be kind of scary And of course they're not doing like nice relaxing some people are smoking pot kind of drugs. They're doing designer drugs like bath salts and MDMA and molly, and drugs that'll keep you awake for three days because that's what they want to do. This Coachella sounds wonderful all of a sudden You know the funny thing is generally speaking at least when I was a kid The rock concerts were it was primarily pot because it was

2:30:27 Yes, it was because the music and yes went together. Well I don't see no no No, I got to stop you right there. I've made some study of this good the Today's music John you know not the Green Day stuff that that you like those Green Day kids but let's just if you look at DJ Toretto and Coachella has you know all kinds of music so you'll have your pot music and But house music, techno music... even a lot of the hip-hop fusion that the kids are all into these days is designed and recorded and created on ecstasy cocaine meth

2:31:15 The drug goes with the music. I think it always has. You know, it makes sense that you're saying... Now I'm expressing myself as an old fart. Yes! When I was a kid we had pot and we liked to have sugar in the pots And we played Rolling Stones Can't get no satisfaction Yeah, no it's And I so this ride thing that I go to the spin class. So it's essentially Complementary to the drugs totally okay totally It would make nothing but sense yeah, it's it's completely in line In fact I believe that that is why you and I can't really stand a lot of the music because we're not doing the proper drugs

2:31:59 That would make nothing but sense. Yeah, yeah! So it's exclusive? It is very exclusionary. Not...it is exclusionary?! Yes This music is exclusionary!? Yes exactly! That makes nothing but sense Yeah, now I have never done ecstasy but um... I look forward to doing it. But i don't and i'm not going to right? You know because i know too many people that have dead eyes after doing it too much Oh! I just want to do it once from what i understand you-it's very lovey Yeah, don't have sex on ecstasy. That's the rule don't have I thought that's the whole point no No, listen look into it know you do not have sex on ecstasy because it is so intense because everything your Sensories are yes ecstasy yeah, that sex becomes very boring after that unit you won't like sex oh Now I understand That's where the rope comes in

2:33:06 All right, oh no get all right. Um we need to continue on our quest to make Vladimir Putin look as evil as possible in our media the mainstream media this aired on CNBC but I believe it's from the national which is the this Candanavian broadcasting. Yeah, CBC No no I think this aired on CNBC as well This is where it was recorded from so they have a deal they have a handoff deal a syndication deal nice and It was a portrait of It was about 20 minutes

2:33:53 A portrait of Putin and the people who came in to talk, I only pulled a couple clips two people in particular. The number one guy who I start with here is Michael Hayden He of course- War criminal? The guy who was all in on torture, that guy. Yeah that guy By the way I think i'd love to have a beer with that guy because he just seems like a very talkative person with a lot of interesting stories Whatever you do don't do ecstasy with him No, not even with the rope I've got meth in my pocket So here he is. Now, he was the director of the CIA. He also ran the NSA and of course you can have him show up for anything as long as it's a slamming Putin and it's really contradictory some of the things he says but it's interesting to hear his take on Putin which falls in line with everything we are led to believe. And I think he's thoroughly KGB but I think that most important aspect

2:34:56 of that KGB heritage, that KGB personality within Vladimir Putin is an incredibly conspiratorial view of the world. He's a conspiracy theorist! Michael Hayden was for years a man to whom the White House turned for advice... A general former director of the CIA and of the electronic... I thought he was in the Navy? I could be wrong. He has read Putin's file, so to speak What does that mean? Having been KGB? It means something to you clearly. I'm not sure it means anything to the ordinary person. He's got historic grievances he's already complained about the greatest tragedy of the 20th century They love pulling this out Do we actually have on record somewhere where he said this? Okay, Zero Force, I'm sorry

2:35:49 No, we've never had I've never heard it. I'm gonna look for the end of the Soviet Union Fine a lot of Russians have historic grievances but Putin because of his KGB background Attributes those problems to others and their actions who are constantly aggressively plotting against once the Soviet Union and now the Russian Federation Look I'm very happy to tell you that, I think they think. We at CIA and the American security establishment spend just about every waking moment in every day thinking about Russia and the truth of the matter is we didn't think about Russia very much while i was director maybe even to a fault interesting what were you doing then dude?

2:36:37 When thinking about it really I think maybe the most most telling aspect of the KGB experience for him And how it shapes his thinking is that he really does view this as zero-sum. Uh, I win you lose if you win I lose Here's what I found from 2005 and this is actually Okay This is a quote Russian President Vladimir Putin told the nation Monday that the collapse of the Soviet Empire was quote, was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century and had fostered separatist movements inside Russia. The epidemic of collapse has spilled over to Russia itself he said referring to the separatists movements as those in Chechnya." This is a little different than I think what people are saying now

2:37:28 First and foremost, direct quote. It is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century as for the Russian people it became a genuine tragedy Tens of millions of our fellow citizens and countrymen found themselves beyond the fringes of Russian territory That's not exactly the way it's being quoted now would you say? That's fair No, it's they make it that they're painting a picture of some guy holed up somewhere So fretting wringing his hands about all the greatness of the Soviet Union if I was only the guy running that Right here underneath me right which is D. Which is very different so now this profile

2:38:18 turns to very interesting person Masha Gessen. Now, Masha Gessen is a lesbian Russian lesbian a resbian and she has she wrote a book about Putin but she really grew up in America with her brother they went I think she went to college in Boston And she resurfaced, actually she used... She was back in Russia. She worked for the State Department. Hold on I have it here. She ran what is that? What is that state department radio station that we had over there? Voice of America? Radio Liberty Oh Radio, okay. Well no, it's a state department funded thing and then she actually met with Putin

2:39:12 And then two days later everybody at Radio Liberty got fired and they pulled the license. So, Radio Liberty was no longer on the air. She also interestingly enough is writing a book about the Sarneff brothers. So, um... Somebody's writing these books for her. Somebody I would say and she is... The old somebody! She is whatever she does or is I don't care but she comes across as very very angry and grouchy And she's very clear what how Putin thinks he's going to ratchet it up one notch for us in this profile of Putin. I think he was your run-of-the-mill mediocre dictator

2:39:56 There are a lot of mediocre men who have become tyrants and he's one of them. I love the music in the background to accentuate everything. Is that music you, did you put that back there? No no this is part... What's the point of the music?! Yeah well also mediocre men becoming dictators. A little hate for men there, hello? That's an anti-male comment. I feel a little slighted by that and there have been some pretty nasty women around too. Bashar Gassan takes Vladimir Putin more personally she personifies the Russia that Putin seems to detest. She's openly gay, an intellectual and a dissenter Her biography of Putin, The Man Without A Face has been translated into several languages. Putin she says has expanded his notion of Russian manliness to include contempt for gays He uses it, says Gasson, to encourage xenophobia In this sense that is very good shorthand for the West

2:40:55 Everybody understands that they're foreign agents. Why are they foreign agents? Because Russia didn't have gay people until the Soviet Union collapsed, it's a clear Western import. If you're gay, you're a spy! Pretty ineffective spy at that level. Yeah, see if you're gay or... well you were a spy MashaGessen! You were working for the US State Department so alright and I really disapprove of misusing LGBTQQIAAP for political motives this way. I really have to disapprove of this

2:41:33 And she is just using this meme that was created, that Putin hates gays. Well clearly he's a homo himself! It's obvious and every gay person is a spy it's no I do not like when people do this. On the whole here's a man who has dismantled the electoral system in Russia, taken over the media thrown his opponents into jail had some people killed has annexed parts of at least two neighboring countries is threatening... Hold on a second. Everything she said there Obama's done! I know Are you trying to take my punchline? Annexed parts of at least 2 neighboring countries is threatening the rest of the world with unbridled aggression

2:42:22 has scapegoated minorities and instigated violence against them. That's bad enough, he is a monster! OBAAA! BOOTEN! He is a monster! So this what you are supposed to believe? And while that may be very true I think the same can be said for American presidents Yeah absolutely I'm sure they're doing the same sort of counter-programming in the Soviet Union, Russia within the schools. You know calling us out for one thing or another but it's counterproductive to the growth of the human race well that's why these people in Russia should be listening no agenda show well some of them are and one of them donates regularly yes one one once probably he's the only listener

2:43:20 Sukhoyev Alexander. Alexander? No, Sukovy Alexander. Alexander Sukovy is that... Yeah. Do they do last name first? Well that's just the way it comes through on PayPal I don't know what you mean. Alexander Sukovy. I like Sukovy Alexander better We'll just call him Alexander the Great Okay! I like it And we got Russian friends we have Sir Gene of dubious descent Yes, he is. Yeah and well I'm having dinner with him tonight. I've been...I'm gonna drill down into...he grew up in St Petersburg. Good luck! Oh he'll tell me some stuff....I hope? I put you on that...I did this last show i'm going to do it more commonly and we're almost at the end here and I don't have a lot of stuff I really need to play except they always CARs got some action going on there

2:44:16 The Central African Republic, you know we're going to send 12000... the UN is now going to send 12000 troops in there which means Americans' feet on the ground will end up being part of it. This is beyond the... was it 1500 French troops who can't take care of business are already in there? No they can't do crap and neither can... and then the Chadians just left and you can play this car killings. They were mostly just civilians trying to go about their daily business when they were caught in the crossfire police say at least 30 people have been killed in fighting between anti-balaka and Muslim fighters in the town of Dikoa in the Central African Republic Police say the fighting lasted more than four hours with stray bullets killing

2:44:58 Wow. Okay, we got to pay attention to that. I wonder how many are gonna be us peacekeepers We're gonna have to deal with that but play part two and I think there's some messaging going on here That is yeah, I think the international community is getting the message. I don't think American public I think this message is gonna be kept

2:45:37 of our mainstream media is going to be kind of passed over because this is an anti, this is a message to the Muslim communities in Africa. What's at store? There are concerns that ethnic cleansing is already underway. Now with the anti-balaka activities Wow.

2:46:28 So there's something going on that's above just this little battle. This is a messaging thing and it's telling these guys to... You know what, the whole thing began when they got some power early, but they didn't have enough of the percentage of the population to pull this off and they started you know writing roughshod over the Christian majority and then things just fell out of control these guys got rousted and run out of the country. Yeah I think this is a message of some sort it's gonna follow up as such. I have that quick little ditty here in the... Shadow Puppet Theater! Haven't done that in awhile

2:47:08 the shadow puppet theater. Our Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius resigned after, it's funny I saw a posting from one of my Obama bot friends literally saying we knew this right? No drama Obama makes his numbers and then quietly gets rid of the old problems like wow okay you're all in on that That's the meme. That's the meme, yeah and of course you know Sibelius said no no this said you know this she wasn't kicked out or anything unfortunately she was interviewed by The Huffington Post just last week. You know they do video over there? They have that Russian... Yeah horrible video but yes they do. They have that old woman who used to be on RT

2:48:03 Well, not the one who resigned but some other woman. Here's a little banter they had a week ago. I know Secretary Sebelius this obviously has been a long hard push to get this program up and running. I think not only technically politically it must have been very difficult so do you see yourself sticking around until November for round two? Well, absolutely. I think the goal really is to... I edited this down a little bit just to get to the end part. ...that people have affordable health care options that's really

2:48:39 what is at the end of the day. This is the most satisfying work I've ever done, and I think it...I've had a chance to visit people in the call center. Now these are folks in 17 sites around the country there 14 thousand of them on the job today that's what keeps me going every day and that's why stick around. Alright so you're staying for... Hold up! Hold up! It gets better No it can't get better Yeah it can, it can So you're staying for a while. I'm in! I told you about giving it. Really? I get the clip to today for that? No, that's not... That's very funny. Well, that's kind of you. So when I was following this same story and I have a clip... Well but I just wanted to... Well before you finish that because my clip has a... Okay just you're just talking about Sibelius right yeah only about Sibelius okay did you see when she her resignation speech yeah what she lost the page

2:49:41 I didn't even get that right. I just want to play that for people. Hand me a phone with someone on the other end saying thank you Their stories are so heartening about finally feeling secure and knowing they can take care of themselves and their families Unfortunately, my page is missing. Ha ha! She can't even... she's just a screw up let's face it Just wanted to finish my shadow puppet theater then I'll be quiet This is the whole lead-up Okay The woman replacing her? That's what I want to get too Well okay

2:50:21 I uh, this clip will be relevant. Good! I just want to play this revolving door clip because she is part of the revolving door group Yes And there's a new member of the revolving door club Let's just hit it. It's the... Shadow puppet theater And she wasn't fired immediately. I think the president was wise to get through that milestone we've all been sort of looking at, which is that 7 million sign up. They achieved that and she gets to leave with some grace. She was a policy person they brought in. She was one of the top five governors in the nation according to Time Magazine when she served in politics but it

2:50:56 could be you needed somebody who was a management person. You know, it was Jeffrey Zients who came over from the OMB to kind of clean up the mess with the IT problem they had with Obamacare and now we have Sylvia Burwell coming over she also very strong on management not only worked as the assistant chief of staff for Clinton also worked for The Gates Foundation and ran Walmart foundation so she's got great background I'm glad you had the clip because I didn't have a clip. But yes, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation the epitome of NGO medicine people and she's going to now run Health & Human Services? Yeah this is corruption at its finest. It's beyond! The finest hour of corruption ladies and gentlemen we'll be witnessing shortly it's almost like you know there was a... like there was a conversation had somewhere This is like Monsanto

2:51:53 and getting their people in all over the place. Yeah, well yeah isn't uh who's the Monsanto guy? Isn't he is he running what is he running He's running the Monsanto department Uh no it was uh Who was the guy? What was he running again, it was um... He's running E- I wasn't EPA. It was something else though. It was Farm Bureau or the Farm Department. Or the, I don't know Land, I don't know what it was. Land, I dunno. It had something to do with farming Why do we not know this off the top of our heads? Because we have not discussed Monsanto for a good six months and we don't keep all these things at the top of our brain list. And I'm FIFO, first in first out so i've long forgotten until I get his name back then I'll have it for another one Was is the USDA that he's running? Could be

2:52:46 We'll have to, we'll resolve this and bring it up on the Thursday show. Ugh I feel horrible now! Well you can't remember every douchebag who comes through the portal? Who comes through the poop hole?! Yes, I should know at least a Monsanto guy! Oh well we've forgotten about him... Let's okay let's resolve this now on the... Yeah I won't feel good unless we... What is that guys name? Yes Michael Taylor What does he do? lobbyist turned USDA administrator yeah Mike Taylor that's it the United States Department of Agriculture run by a Monsanto lobbyist yeah hey now

2:53:33 Right, now we got this woman who used to be with the Gates Foundation and also the Walmart foundation which is like anti-everything. Are they really? No I mean you know there's a Walmart people are anti labor they're exploitive that's it they ruin neighborhoods or it's horrible I mean I'm all in on the anti Walmart memes. I don't really care enough to bring it up on the show or discuss it because I don't think is that important, there's nothing you can do about it but I'm not a big fan of the company although I will actually shop there my wife will not go into one! No of course not I won't go into a Walmart I rock against the Walmarts okay well I will go in I'm magnanimous like fact they find them highly entertaining

2:54:17 Was in the one of the Walmart and Macon, Georgia once that is a absolute treat hmm Just the people in there Wow no I won't go. I don't think it's a good idea No not even a pinch nine-month old charged with a crime Are you trying to? Play this clip while you're playing the music is real quick nine month old Pakistan. A judge dismissed attempted murder charges against a nine-month old baby, yeah you heard me the infant was in court clutching his bottle after being arrested and fingerprinted along with the rest of his family for fighting with police over unpaid utility bills His attorney says that babies' charges were simply a mistake Why do you even make me play this? This is dumb

2:55:15 I know. You should go on the Jon Stewart show. Ho ho! Isn't that stupid? I should go on the Jon Stewart show, but i wont get invited No Alright On Thursday we shall return There is some interesting legislation coming up I also have a connection between STEM and the pharmaceutical industry with a new report STEM apparently is also important to create new workers who can come up with new fabulous drugs for things like cognitive, a sluggish cognitive tempo. And meanwhile Rome is burning

2:56:07 Hopefully they'll find the plane. Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state, in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm still doing my taxes very disturbed by it I'm John C Dvorak we'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda. I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen Adios mofo The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak.org slash N-A-W