Pilots of Terror

00:00 Transnistria or transmystia? Which one is it? Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Thursday March 20th 2014! It's time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 601 This is no agenda Masquerading as a debris field in FEMA Region 6 In the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin Texas In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we have nothing clever to say It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! I'm sorry, I stepped on your name but I got- You stepped all over me. Yeah well I got confused you did WING! Yeah that didn't mean i was gonna say my name. Why? Substitute. I'm Trigger Happy man, I'm Trigger Happy it's the best podcast in the universe. Slap happy, slap happy. Trigger Happy

00:50 There you go. Well, it's official John no yet is its official Okay our news media has just shut down completely There is no other news except debris field Oh God Yeah I looked up the ratings bonanza No, I was listening to one of the talk show radio AM guys who was gloating saying you know he says people criticize the AM talk radio guy but we have not gone on this craziness that they've gone on in their TV and he explained it as a daily ratings boost and I was listening to him thinking wait a minute. You're telling me these guy are getting hot ratings for this crap? Yeah!

01:33 Yeah, I have the numbers here. Hold on a second... Why is my- Hello Firefox! You're slow today. Yeah you gotta love that. Did you notice Google slowed way down? When you do a search it takes forever for this- It used to be bing and then bow pow. That may be... That actually maybe a DNS thing on your end. I've seen that with it being a DNS problem Well I don't have a DNS issue No no of course not We all have DNS issues. I'm using the Comcast DNS, how could that be bad? Well there you go! That's your answer right there. I'll go to 808080808 Don't go don't go to 88888 You should do the open nick definitely do not do the Google That's how they can hijack you. I like being in hijacked it so much fun Yeah hold on a second here i have it. I got hijacked recently with the icon drop Trojan

02:32 Here we go. New York... Here's the deal, if you get these guys then there is also this thing called Highlighty or whatever it is and so they put all those double lines that used to be on web pages that you'd mouse over Oh yeah, and you'd mouse over it and pops up a little box with an ad So then people said this sucks and they stopped using it Well now there's an attack adware attack that does it just doesn't randomly or on any page. People who advertise on those things should you should never buy their product do you have a blocker active on your browser? I have blockers, i got plenty of stuff. I'm sure you do. Here is tremendous story that's completely in our wheelhouse at the senior CUNN executive who asked not to be identified defining

03:23 Defining the network strategy for its coverage. I'm reading from The New York Times CNN's ratings soared last week even with our aviation theme and over the weekend rising by almost 100% in primetime they literally have doubled their numbers with this bullcrap Have you watched any of it? It's unwatchable and Fox does the same thing. It's watchable, but I love the Martin Savage who we're back in the simulator here You're in a simulator What are you doing? Now the whole thing is, it's disgusting. It really is... Of course its got all of the memes this how sad we are as a human race and you know we love all this stuff Ultimately were talking about 293 people Sad bad day but You know not like that's the only death toll The ratings are up! Yeah ratings are up who gives a crap Shutup Curry Who gives a crap I heard This thing got so out of control

04:24 Let's just get it out of the way right now. Here are the shark jumps, so the first one is Don Lemon Now he has six people in the box. You actually have clips from this? Oh yeah! This is important to show you how we could... The world could be burning down In fact it isn't some parts of the world And in America no one would know. I'm not quite sure how it is in other countries, I'm sure the BBC's doing something else besides this but then again maybe not But here just think of the resources we have Don Lemon he has a sextabox so six people on screen in a box A sexbox? He has three people in the studio

05:12 and he's reading tweets! What if it was hijacking or terrorism or mechanical failure, or pilot error but what if it was something fully that we don't really understand. A lot of people have been asking about black holes and on and on and on Black holes! Black holes John! Noah says what else can you think about? Black hole Bermuda triangle And then Desi says huh just like the movie Lost Then of course they're also referencing the Twilight Zone which is a very similar plot That's what people are saying. I know it's preposterous, but is it preposterous you think Mary? Well It is a black hole is about or you know a small black hole would suck in our entire universe So we know it's not that oh so we know it's not that let me just check John Are sure we have not been sucked into a black hole It's like holding to her it's yeah right okay, so that was the jump number one and

06:09 Then here we have Brolf and this is about Israel's response. And by the way, I got notes from Dutch emergency personnel, emergency rescue personnel that you know the big nuclear summit is taking place any day now and all of the Netherlands they've got walls and gates and choppers in the Dutch are going what is going on? And one of our Boots on the Ground producers says that he actually got notice from his superiors, that they need to be on the lookout because you never know that MH370 could be used as a... Landing in Shaipul! No landing in The Hague on the conference and killing everybody.

06:55 And I said to the guy, dude are you sure that this is a real... He says oh yeah no this is.. I really got this information. So here's Brolf and of course Israel has checked in and they're very worried about this plane reappearing all of a sudden and crashing into Tel Aviv. I guess the big fear that the Israelis might have And correct me if I'm wrong is that this plane, this missing plane may have landed some... You're wrong! No shh quiet now. ...place it could be refueled and then used as a missile to hit one of those high towers in Tel Aviv or something along those lines? I assume that's what they're worried about Yes, this is what we all assume. I woke up this morning and thought if they could only refuel the plane and use it as a missile.

07:53 you know the number of people that are actually cleaning mechanically working on the planes before they even leave the airports to fly towards Israel. He has a very worrying assessment he says look in the past we were looking and scouring the passenger manifest going back a couple decades so it used to be only had to be afraid of the passengers? We thought the passengers with a threat post 9-11 we thought the aircraft with a threat. He says what he's concerned about now is that the last ring of trust as he calls it... The last ring of trust, the guy making $22,000 dollars a year! ...may be broken and that is their air crews what he is concerned about now is the level of checks that the different airlines are making on their air crew some pilots he says

08:40 past those checks twenty five years ago he says they need to be more rigorous there were pilots of terror all right so i was about by the way I should mention that there have been more than a few of these uh primetime dramas where the were the stewardess or some of their agents of the Russian government. Oh yeah, oh yeah So this is not like a new idea that's taken right from fiction so here's the final one this is the final shark jump This is James Hall former NTSB chair

09:17 So the chair of the National Transportation Safety Board. Oh I think i saw this guy he's been he's obviously got an agent well yeah, he's everywhere! He's on and but he was on O'Reilly and one of our producers pointed this out to me our producer actually clipped it for me Listen to what he says that this is the former chair of the National Transportation Safety Board your facts seem correct bill my concern here is You know you have the lives of flight crew their families as well as the individuals that were on that aircraft So I think we have to be very careful and very responsible. I don't think we have been able to

09:59 identify who's in control of the aircraft. The aircraft certainly made some very strange movements, was anyone in control of the aircraft other than the flight crew? And the question electronically or with Cyber warfare that's existing was the aircraft being remotely controlled Just like 9-11 Remotely controlled aircraft and it was going left and right because you know, it's a joystick It's hard to control those triple seven with the joystick. Okay, and then I heard this on okay? I'm done. I am just done

10:50 Really really unbelievable. Yeah, yeah That's it was pathetic but the whole the whole scene in the media right now is really deteriorated to do Beyond pathetic and I don't want to go way off topic But I do want to play a clip that kind of is It's actually in some odd way along the same lines This is act taken from The Jimmy Kimmel Show mm-hmm and this is Howie Mandel and the clip is was the name of this clip humiliating the public This is a clip. This to me tells me that I mean, I thought this was the sickest thing I've heard for a long time And I realized that a lot of the stuff going on right now especially from these guys who are the higher paid Celebrities they they are essentially They don't understand it

11:49 especially in this dire time of an economic slowdown, they're dreaming up ways to humiliate the public and the public is going along with it. But it's a hidden camera game show which premieres the second season with celebrities and people do the most awkward, crazy things for money. Like what? You know what the... well I'll tell you what the premise is just really quickly we have in a restaurant will have cameras and microphones We send a waiter over to call somebody back and we just say to them we just ambushed them and say you want to be on a game show you wanna win $5,000 if they say okay we give him an earpiece sending back out they can't let person they're with know they're on a game show or anybody in the restaurant and they have to do whatever we tell them to do for money. So you can say for $1,000 the guy sitting with his son you could say tell your son that you are leaving her mother for another man. Oh ho ho! That's great!

12:42 And you sit there and you go, will he do it? If he does it how are they going to react. Then if he doesn't then we'll send in an actor or the other man. Introduce your son to his new mom. Oh wow! Steven... This show should be called How He Ruins Lunch. It's funny because Mickey had what is known as an artist talk yesterday you know, where the artist and she's doing a show with Peggy Weiss here in Austin for her expo and they do a talk. And then we had lots of people there but also some friends including one of our O-Bot friends the artist and she could not stop talking about the conspiracy theories of this plane Really? Yeah I was really

13:34 People find it fascinating, they love it. They lose all sense of sensibility and its a part of this very problem... by the way we were laughing at Japanese game shows 20 years ago that made people sit on a block of ice like man those Japs are crazy! Well there you go. No he said when he first got cut off but he says it's amazing what awkward and crazy things people do for money And it just seems to me... You mean television executives who will do horrible things to people for money as well? It's horrible.

14:13 It's inexcusable actually. I think we don't need this guy, and these are the same liberals...I don't want to throw it in a political realm that are always going on and on about you know being the good guys this is like just a humiliation of the public it's a downgrade oh yeah but this particular instance this missing flight is a downgrade of humanity You know it's funny because I would, I didn't think of doing what you just did with a kind of showing off this as a disaster and not to the disaster to the...I'm talking about that disaster to the public discourse. Yes exactly. Because we have a situation in Ukraine that is quite interesting. Totally! There was a lot of good stuff there. I picked up a couple things Brzezinski was his operation that CSIS operation gave one

15:09 Talks which you can't really want. You don't really want to miss because you get this word that we're all just I Don't know why but sometimes they feel like we should just explain briefly who some of these players are because Brzezinski is We know who he is, we talk about him easy rolls off the tongue But he wrote a book called was it The Global Chess Game? I think I'm paraphrasing the title and he's a huge neo-conservative Screw Screw everybody type of guy who was foreign policy. It was the Foreign Affairs or was he for a national security advisor for Carter Carter? That's what it was right, and then I think you stayed on for a little bit And he became a superstar He's got dough right he's got money to he's got a lot of money. He became a superstar in this business of kind of killing people create creating a

16:00 an environment to kill people. A security organization that advises people to kill, his folks don't go out and do anything His office, his staff doesn't directly do it but yeah... And the whole idea is I would say to manipulate the world with media but also with foreign policy and with a lot of the military industrial complex To give the crazy people of America the upper hand Yes, and they've done a damn good job with Carrie. Yeah exactly Carrie in Noodleman are all in there and his daughter Mika is on Morning Joe with Joe Scarborough so the next generation is in place okay so tell me about so Brzezinski it's like clockwork when you get this kind of stuff he pops back onto the scene

16:57 Yeah, so I'm watching this is the Center for Strategy and International Studies CSIS one of the think quote unquote think tanks essentially a security report maker that gives you know things to like a report. This is like one of those contractors to the intelligence community and State Department probably the State Department more than anyone But there's a bunch of these operations. Another guy showed up at the meeting, it was one of those meetings you know where this like a bunch of insiders and some news guys that write about foreign affairs which is great! And then course it was Brzezinski, Scowcroft and some reporter from...some writer for The New York Times who has a British accent sounds very important and he does essentially covering the Ukrainian situation. Well you know when you have oh wait a minute Is that that? Oh hold on second I

17:52 Oops, I just messed something up here. But for some reason my computer is not really helping out today home I want to see was it CJ something or others that the guys and there wasn't a CJ had name Hey, I didn't write his name down. Sorry. No, I'm tough now. I was reading about someone wrote something He's probably the guy yeah It's like if this guy shows up then then you know that there's nothing here it is CJ chivers no I don't think so. Apparently CJ Chivers has been dispatched to Ukraine? Oh no, well this guy was in Washington at the time and wherever Chivers go the provocateurs special forces oh good black water everyone else goes the times is all in on this and then they also had that old fart on meet the press or face the nation whatever

18:39 Not not chip, but the other guy yeah some reason his name is eluding me. Who's it who's deaf? I didn't realize he couldn't hear anything so everybody who came up in the audience That was kind of slowed things down So this is if you want to get a rundown I have when I picked up Zabrinsky went on for a while This is a couple minutes and actually we need to I have here The official pronunciation of this guy's name, which we're not doing properly. Here is the pronunciation. Zbigniew Brzeziński There you go. Zbigniew Brzeziński Yeah

19:17 So Brzezinski runs down the future Ukraine here after a question from somebody in the audience. It seems to me there's a bit of a chicken and egg problem here, their decision of what they're prepared to do may depend on their understanding of how much support they may have now Dr. Brzezinski you suggested that MREs don't seem quite enough It's a well-known menu. We can provide intelligence support, we can provide advisors and training, we can provide nonlethal equipment, we can provide lethal equipment, we can provide air cover So I've given you the escalation You already know where should be and what should we be offering

19:58 I think in any case we should engage in contingency planning for all of that, in different portions depending on circumstances. But we should couple that with a serious communication to the Russians that we would like an alternative outcome in which we can be partners but also a reaffirmation that if the Ukrainians resist they'll not be alone We are not going to tell the Russians in advance exactly what we're going to do. We may discuss some aspects of it with the Ukrainians, but the test of pudding is also in the Ukrainians They have to demonstrate that they really value their territorial integrity and are prepared to make sacrifices to protect it I think the Russian's, the way they've operated in Crimea as I said before were operating on a contingent basis If there was a lot resistance, we pull back

20:50 The same may very well happen in the case of Ukraine as well, particularly in those districts where there are some Russian people living and who are demonstrating like in Donetsk and so forth. So Ukrainians themselves first of all Have to take some clear positions regarding what they intend to do with some degree of credibility Otherwise if we don't do it, then I think we really are on a path towards grievous instability in Europe and also at spilling over to Georgia Azerbaijan The Russians have scores to settle with the Azerbaijanis and it could be elsewhere as well. Certainly, Riga which has a large Russian population could be the object of sudden explosions in popular hatred and conflicts I mean you open up all sorts of gates Our job is to reduce this scope uncertainty by commitment and clarity and willingness to compromise on an intelligent level

21:49 But that also means the president has to take a visible position. and speak seriously to the American people about the problem that we confront, that we and our allies confront jointly. And Mrs Merkel's speech I think is a hopeful indication now that more and more important Europeans are beginning to realize they were in this together. Hollande even though he has some personal distractions has also spoken strongly on this subject which you know given his business schedule All right, this this coincides exactly with our other favorite neocon douche bag John McCain who is essentially Just parroting what Brzezinski says only he does it in English. You know I don't think of McCain as a neocon It's just a war hawk and warmonger yes, okay? He just wants to

22:52 You're right. I'll take it back. He wants to blow up the world, he's irked about it and I think he has personal issues. It's uh... you're right, he is not really in the club but they like him because he's one of those kids that always had the firecrackers Yes, I can. You know like hey watch me blow up this frog Yeah, that's him and he had what I think was the quote of the week one of his problems Is that if the people of Russia see a thriving economically strong Ukraine on their border they might be in he's worried that they may be infected with the same disease but

23:29 The United States of America, first of all has to have a fundamental reassessment of our relationship with Vladimir Putin. No more reset buttons no more I tell Vladimir I'll be more flexible treat him for what he is He also hates Obama by the way It does not mean reignition of the Cold War, but it does mean treating him in the way that we understand an individual who believes in restoring the old Russian Empire. Well practically speaking what does that matter? How do you treat him? Here comes the best! I think economic sanctions are a very important step. Identify these kleptocrats and

24:08 Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country. I gotta say, whoever wrote that line is girl! That's one of the best lines I've ever heard! It's kleptocracy it's corruption...it's a nation that is really only dependent upon oil and gas for their economy and so economic sanctions are important get some military assistance to ukrainians at least so they can defend themselves. So that's the don't send them ready-to-eat meals or meals ready to eat, send some military assistance I guess that's...I dunno boots on the ground you know dudes have seen these in Crimea? The photos of these soldiers who have no identifying marks on them? Have you seen

24:54 not just the ones that are being called russian soldiers by the news media. Yeah, but they're wearing black outfits right? What kind of weapons are they carrying? Blishnikovs or AK-47s? No! AR15's Oh interesting. Yeah. Resumed the missile defense system in Poland and Czech Republic. Oh! Czech Republic missile defense back at Moldova and Georgia both of whom were occupied by Russian troops as we speak. Georgia is not Indeed there is Moldova. A path towards membership in NATO yeah there's a myriad of steps that we can take and it'll be very interesting to see to what degree our European friends will join us who are dependent on Russian energy supply. That's the fuck the EU part so

25:37 So it truly is, and if I can kind of help with the neocon agenda. And I think McCain's agenda you're right now he sees that with military-industrial complex we're pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan although we have a huge presence there and diplomatic in the biggest embassy in the universe but we're pulling out we need to go into somewhere else and we need to basically be be mean to everybody and take everybody's crap, all of your resources they all belong to us. And I would agree that Russia is not the strongest it has been and they're taking advantage of this situation they are going okay we're gonna go get you and we're just gonna come in and take your lunch money! That is essentially what these people do. Yes McCain particularly. Everyone is getting on it so

26:25 Noodleman, also known as Victoria Newman but her real name is Noodleman who of course is married to one half of the P-Nack brothership which is... what's the douche knuckles name again? I got it. It's very important for my story. Hold on. Kagan She's married to Robert Kagan and his brother is Frederick Kagan, literally the guy who wrote the project for New American Century. The neocons who said hey we should have a Pearl Harbor and then we should go into Iraq okay so those guys... So of course you know Noodleman is out of the State Department whose left Jen Psaki

27:07 And she wants to jump in on everything because everyone's having a good time. Everyone is having fun, kicking the Russians in the face and so she tweets out something we had this I guess one or two soldiers were killed most likely by snipers which would not necessarily be Russian and she tweets out something to the effect of oh well you know Russians killing people But she got called on it in her little briefing and it resulted finally in a shut up slave moment. It was very embarrassing for her as she overstepped her boundary trying to get in on the action because its so fun over there at the Skull & Bones States.

27:48 You tweeted several hours ago, stop the shooting in Simferopol. Clear that Russia shot first and I'm just curious what is this clarity based on? What are the facts behind this statement? Well Russia entered a Ukrainian base And that's clearly an act that we have concerns about and shows their level of aggression in this case so I think events on the ground seem pretty clear in our view and we were just expressing I was just expressing a concern about the reports for hearing on the ground. But now you said, you talked about entering a base but in the tweet your saying that it's clear that actually fired a shot first and thats a pretty... And remember she is the spokes hole for the State Department so for her to say well Russians shot first they shot first bad guys shot first! Is a big deal A serious allegation

28:41 What is this information? Where's it coming from because there has been plenty of conflicting reports on what actually has been happening in Simferopol. Curious. Let me just say we don't see how it's possibly true that the Russian claim that they were not, that someone else was the aggressor, that the Ukrainians were the aggressor can possibly be true given they entered to Ukrainian base They're not saying that. They are saying its a provocation whereas you're saying its very clear and... They have said that little bit I think we ready to move on And this exactly same lie as South Ossetia

29:17 that everyone still somehow believes that Russia was the aggressor when it really was Georgia who was the aggressor and the Russians who protected their Russian brothers and sisters there. So, its these kinds of lies this is how you can see what's really going on. We're out to get these guys! Oh yeah I mean the situation in Crimea seems to be It was always in part of Russian and it'd be just only since 55 it wasn't And it's mostly Russians, and there's some people that are trying to get away from the Russians of course the Tartars in particular Staying there But the Russians had the place and they set this whole operation up according to Brzezinski. They it was well Well orchestrated this entire thing and everyone's all bent out of shape about it but it seems that

30:04 What was interesting about this CSIS meeting, was they all agreed that the United States was caught with its pants down over both the results of the Ukrainian revolution or overthrow whatever you want to call it. and this loss of Crimea temporarily at some point. Apparently nobody was following this at all, and Scowcroft said it was like well we weren't paying attention, Brzezinski agreed with that New York Times guy... So this is the State Department completely fouling this up. And I think you're right John they were all over

30:43 Kiev, they you know we have McCain in Kiev hanging out with neo-nazis. We got noodleman hanging out pretzels on the square We've got the phone call let's not forget the phone call Let's not forget the phone call to do the No Chin monster The High Priestess of foreign policy for the EU like oh really I didn't know there were snipers Oh gosh. Oh golly. Oh golly. Oh hadn't heard that You know, they were all over that situation installing this rogue Bogorov government. In fact our show we picked up on the Crimean thing because of FETS. France 24 that guy the bald guy who's floating around I haven't seen him for a while Was over there and he pointed out that this is going to be a hotspot And the US media wasn't looking at this, and I guess the State Department or anybody else was in it all of a sudden boom It was just almost like an overnight thing and Brzezinski says it's because the Russians had planned as long in advance This was like this whole thing was a giant scheme. They just didn't expect the whole Ukrainian thing to go so south on them

31:45 So as a part of helping the rest of the world, certainly the United States flow into the whole meme of Russia is bad Putin. Bad Putin dictator Stalin Hitler propaganda propaganda we have the Liz Wall situation and there is an update on that I try to stay away from her poohing ass but she well first I do have a fun clip she appeared on The View as a part of her campaign? Yes, she did. This was a great move for her! Wait until you hear the background but here is just a quick clip of her talking about how horrible it was to work there You said the coverage was actually making you sick and it was a propaganda machine

32:30 By the way, the view I was when you have Barbara Walters. You've got Whoopi Goldberg you have you are talking to a cross-section of women in America who will believe what they see on this show Barbara Walters is highly credible that I think Whoopi Goldberg is highly credible but to it too the section of people who watch this show and even Jenny McCarthy nothing she's hot but yeah it's credible Credible, credible.

33:19 in an abusive relationship and the woman finally leaves, do you blame her for getting in the relationship in the first place? In this country if a journalist disagrees with the administration they just get hired at Fox News. And non sequitur from Barbara Walters, that's what you call objective reporting. No that was disgusting That was a female unfriendly no one called her on that That was an outrageous comparison. And in this day and age, well you know I've been in abusive relationship my husband's been hitting me for two years but couldn't get out soon enough! That was unbelievable that boy just borderline no no no no no but I have to say well you didn't get it uh can I can I just finish this up because I want a wrap-up wall? I got a wrap-up wall yeah finished because there's something this is very annoying go on

34:22 So the, these neoconservative...the neo-conservative group. Let's just call them the neocons at least we know what we're talking about They have changed face What used to be this PNAC project for a new American century There is now a new group of not new but they are now all in the foreign policy initiative And if you look at the foreign policy initiative Twitter feed on March 5th The day that Miss Wall here resigned 20 minutes before she resigned, this foreign policy initiative is tweeting, hashtag word on the street says something big might happen at RT in about 20 to 25 minutes. Then about 10 minutes later, ten minutes before Liz did her Puanist rant

35:14 FPI tweeted, hashtag word on the street says you're really going to want to tune in to RT something hashtag something big may be going down. I swear to God that's their hashtag and then at 526 the very moment this girl quits on air Foreign Policy Initiative tweets anchor resigns on air cannot be part of networked and whitewashes the actions of Pruin Then she appears in an interview with the Daily Beast, an hour later exclusive interview James Kerchick. And what is the connection to all of this? Well if you look at the foreign policy initiative you will see the board of direct well first of all the board of directors Kerchick is on the Board of Directors along with Robert Kagan Victoria Noodleman's husband who of course is the brother of the original peanut acre Frederick Kagan

36:10 This was a setup from these people and there's the proof. Nice, nice catch yeah none of this is a surprise of course no but it's always kind of annoying that it's like you go and you dredge up all this cool stuff and then you go yeah yeah surprise figures my god I know it's like you're going like oh yeah this is reconfirming the basic thesis Only in a big way nobody else's does this of course everyone's all over I did have help on this we For this particular episode of the best podcasting universe a lot of help from our producers Which is why we call them producers and not listeners right? A lot of help okay, you wanted to talk about that Yeah, this is such an obvious setup And Liz wall is just me. I think she should be ashamed of herself and then of course then I mean she was obviously sent in as a spy

37:08 Yeah, well then she took the money. She was paid by them and then made up this bull crap And and the other thing is is that this is a she was stunned shocked that this was a An arm of the Russian government washing pushing its agenda it's called Russia today Yeah. Hello? Are you that stupid but I know she's not that stupid, but I must call out more on purpose. I must call out more What's Glenn Beck's thing the The Blaze so um I see uh I saw the headline So I wanted to see this clip he's got some hot chicks by the way over there at The Blaze He's trying By the way He knows he worked at Fox. You mean he knows the formula Have you seen Russia Today's Financial Babe

37:58 You're talking about the blonde? We talked about her before. But now her shirt's opened down to her midriff?! Well, she dresses like a Russian whore! Well yeah... hello! You're talking about the blond that does uh... No I don't think she's blond. Maybe she's brunette now it's the It's the markets. I'm looking now, this is by the way just so you know if you're new to this program This is how we talk as television executives for ratings We are not misogynistic No, we're just telling it like this is the way well actually This is a mild version of what you'd hear in a in a closed behind closed doors at a network I think I love to go yeah. Oh yeah RT calm and I say mild I seriously mean that we're very mild Yeah What does her name? Whatever let me just see shows? You know our cheese got a bunch of different streams They have the one that comes out of Moscow

38:56 And then they have the one that comes out in New York and they seem to be completely disparate. They're not, they don't ever bounce back and forth...and if you can catch some of their stuff syndicated then you can catch it on the RT network which has got most of the American stuff It's just a weird..you know I dunno who is running it but Discombobulated if you ask me. Discombobulated? Let me see, technology documentary big picture... Is it Sophie Ko? No it's not Sophie Ko The one I'm thinking is A to ADE That's the blonde though, that's a different one This is the one with the big giant mouth where she gives this giant smile that you can see every tooth It's a little too big Well, I'll find out about it Doesn't matter so The Blaze has their version

39:43 And they're in on this. They are in on this, anything to make Russia look horrible and let's see what could we do? What could we possibly do to convince the already crazed audience of The Blaze and I know people who work there...I read their stuff some stuff is good But wow, this is just... This took me back for a second when I heard this. As ForTheRecord was preparing to file this story our investigative producer was contacted by a naval officer serving in special operations one day before he noticed the music and he was resigning his commission He said he ordered a forensic investigation into the 2008 crash

40:26 It was conducted by a military contractor with expertise in global finance and data solutions. It was done independently of Kevin Freeman's study. That report concluded, there is overwhelming evidence that China and Russia launched economic terrorist attacks on the United States in 2008." There you go. We'll have more on this story. That's what caused the crash exactly that's their whole story Russia caused the crash John those bastards Wow Those bastards and then but this one by the way explain to me And this would be nice if somebody was it would kind of define it What is an economic terror attack?

41:07 Well, it's... I don't know. It's clear John! They crashed the market for housing when a bunch of Russians sold their houses. The unnamed guy who was about to quit the military but still had one last hurrah. I'm gonna give you this information. These guys all bug me. Beck, you know, I listen to his stuff too and I agree with you he's got something. Once in awhile something is really good But let me just mention that all these guys are annoying and this is another good reason to support our show. Yeah, I was gonna say they're annoying because they make so much money This is a pet peeve clip that if you just went up and down the list you'd look at it and go oh god hope he doesn't want to play that Sean Hannity show intro? I want you to listen to this carefully Honey we need to spend some time apart I think No, I know you too well now I'm going to listen to this thing now

42:06 Well, you're gonna hate it but you're gonna be interested in my commentary or am I complaining? Party's over. Freedom is back in style! Welcome to the revolution! We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way! Sean Hannity! The new Sean Hannity Show More behind-the-scenes information on breaking news more bold inspired solutions for America Okay wait don't say anything

42:47 Now I hear every time, listen, I go through the channels and I'm driving around and I pick this up. And this by the way has got lots of native advertising on this show. Totally corrupt. It's the American life So I listened to this intro This is the intro to The Show in the Hour We'll put a boot in your ass. It's the American way hell yeah, bitch is To me the most offensive thing that anybody could put on the air besides using the word ass Yeah well So this is it so the American Way according to this guy the way he thinks because he thinks this is a great clip He obviously put it through your help put it together and produce it This opening so his thinking is

43:26 Our job is not to really be friends with anybody. It's to be a big bully and put a boot in your ass because it's the American way! To me, it's a lot of things but putting a boot in somebody's ass is not on my list. Well have you seen Ukraine? Well, we put a boot in their ass. Exactly! I could not agree with you more. It is very disturbing, unless it's done in parody kind of like the Team America that's funny No this guy has got no humor But this is exactly... This is Carrie There is a section We have a saying in The Netherlands Wat je zegt ben jezelf met je kop door de helft It rhymes and means whatever you say about someone else is really what you are And that's it

44:37 And you'll find this true in many, many cases in the workplace and family relations when someone says you're an egomaniac. The person saying it is probably an egomaniac Would you say this kind of a thing that happens at recurring themes? I think there's a lot of that Sure So you get these guys like Kerry and McCain...and I can't even fault the president The president isn't part of this putsch He's doing brackets Yeah, he's doing brackets. I swear to God! Every year he does brackets This is all going on and here's our president everybody And finally the Bracketologist in Chief President Obama as he does every March making his predictions as to the madness with ESPN's... I can't even listen to it then oh i'm gonna win the billion uh Warren Buffett's billion dollar challenge

45:31 What is this guy doing? The Obama- So we have an Obama bot dinner on Friday, John. A new Obama bot dinner. Oh, it's winding down I think It is because two of the bots are leaving for California They can't take anymore Well they're looking very comfortable around here And so they sit at the professor's house and I get an email and in the email usually its Obama Bot Dinner because you know they are cool that way They know their Obama Bots and they know I talk about them on the show And despite how harsh I was on the last time, they're all excited. I know right? You talk about the missing airplane! Oh yeah but no but the title of the email subject was Hillbots and it took me 10 minutes to what are you talking about hill bots kill bots like they're not a hill what are you talking about oh he'll BOTS Hillary

46:24 Oh, Hillbots! Yes! Whoa. I thought you said Kill Bots. So Hillbots... so they're already one year into the re-election they're already oh well damn that's no good Hillary yeah she'll do it Hillary and of course then of course they're gonna be so disappointed because i too want to pray to God that I want Hillary to become president It's a boon for the show Hell yeah at least four years of show At least At least, at least. They're going to be very disappointed because of course I'm just going to say... Not gonna argue with it? And then I'm not gonna argue about the play and just gonna say there's no evidence that crashed

47:02 I think everyone is dead and the reason why is because they wanted either what's in the plane or either the cargo, or the passengers. You don't care Adam because you're not... See we're responsible Americans cause we watch cable news shows so were very keeping up with the news! I'm in love with Rachel Maddow! I would marry her if I could! Yeah yeah they watch news PBS News Hour NPR Oh can't even listen to NPR Well we all know that Vladimir Putin is former KGB and he really wants to restore the... He used to run the KGB, I understand. But he invented the word KGB! And he wants to restore Russia to its great proportion when... So he wants to rebuild the Soviet Union? Yes yes that's all he wants

47:47 So here's Carney trying to explain why Putin is not on the list of people that are being sanctioned. You're not taking sanctions against Putin off today? I think i said that already, im not putting on or off any individual you can see the scope provided by the executive orders that have been signed, and how individuals can fall into the categories outlined in those executive orders. But beyond saying that we are assessing regularly additional steps we could take and sanctions we could impose I'm not going to

48:25 label individuals or predict who might be next if anyone is. By taking these actions and saying that they are targeted at those responsible for what's Russia's activity in Crimea, the White House is not suggesting that Vladimir Putin was not responsible for what Russia has done there? Certainly we're not. The authorities are... Why not sanction him? I'm just... I feel like this is Groundhog Day from a briefing I had last week. The fact is... Today and Putin's not on the list, so I'm asking... Well, I would suggest that we have identified individuals today. We have the authorities to

49:04 more broadly identify individuals and entities in the future, and we will do that as necessary. He cannot answer the question which is why isn't Putin on the list? It's simple! Well he's lying because even you or I are on the list John, both of us are on the list because... What list are we on? We are mentioned in the executive order eligible for seizure of property. Yes! But let me read it because, of course whoever... Now I'm interested Whoever that reporter was and we'll talk about that in a moment is clearly did not read the executive order which you know if you can read the Federal Register it has this stuff in there or WhiteHouse.gov blocking property of certain persons contributing to the situation in Ukraine That's me for sure

50:07 We are contributing to the situation. We are not being helpful, we are... Not being helpful that's for sure but I don't know if that contributes to anything? How would you like to interpret that John? Contributing to the situation in Ukraine! That is it can be any person in America because it in fact says provisions for seizure of property extend to any United States person so this is not for Russians This is for Americans. If you're contributing to the situation in Ukraine by doing a podcast where you call out these neocons as A-hole bullies, You're contributing to the problem and I think there's... Let's go get Curry stuffed! Anyway boss guess what? He's got nothing! He's judgment proof! What do we do now?! Holy crap this is no good he's got nothing! Mr. Adam Curry Open up the door Mrs. Curry

51:01 There was a local report from the CBS reporter about these White House briefing sessions and she went to Washington, and she gave a little report on the news there about how it works because you know she got sit down with spokesman Jay Carney. And he showed them how these briefings work Yes, it was a very busy day. We started here shortly after 8 o'clock with a coffee with Press Secretary Jay Carney inside his office in the West Wing and this was off the record so we were able to ask him all about some of the preparation that he does on a regular basis for talking to the press in his daily press briefings. He showed us a very long list

51:39 of items that he has to be well-versed on every single day. And then he also mentioned that a lot of times, unless it's something breaking the questions that they reporters actually asked were the correspondence they are provided to him in advance so then he knows what he is going to be answering and sometimes those correspondents and reporters also have those answers Printed in front of them because of course it helps when they're producing their reports for later on so that was very interesting Okay, so they're sitting there doing a little play is that we should do our list listeners and producers that we had one of the House Parliament guys come on one of the shows and said the same thing about that phony, bull crap thing. That charade they do when they start screaming at each other in parliament and then Cameron or whoever's running the place gets up and says something it's all scripted yes! And this is scripted too? On both ends all would need now is for Carney to actually give them the questions AND the answer

52:42 Well, here's one question. I'm surprised they let this one go on but this was like a question about Russian TV. This is...I just thought this was the most interesting question and non-answer that was at that press conference. Let me ask you something on Russian television, state-controlled television, the main state controlled channel... Unlike our controlled channel! I'm thinking the same thing. Dmitry Kisilev prominent Russian television anchor posed in front of a mushroom cloud and warned that Russia is the only country in the world capable of turning the US into radioactive dust

53:24 I mention this because it's state-controlled Russian television, which as we know doesn't generally broadcast stuff that is not signed off by the government of Russia. What is your sense when you hear something like that? I mean people say crazy things on TV all the time Yeah but this is Russian state controlled TV. I take your point entirely. We're focused on the actions of the Russian government. We're focused on the support we are providing to the Ukrainian government, we are focused on marshalling a strategy with our partners around the world especially in Europe for how to deal with this challenge posed by Russia and we are making sure that Russia is incurring costs

54:13 the provocations it has engaged in and the actions that it's taken. If you'll indulge me, John I'll go back to episode 599 into your bin of clips for American state-run television which of course as we know is The American Broadcast Corporation You know like Russia today? American Broadcast Corporation run by The Disney Corporation but the whole new staff is married to the administration everyone's screwing each other Sex symbol doting mom crap one one. It was set up so perfectly Wow That's not what I wanted though, I wanted to dramatize the no crowns are sorry why then it will fix it in post

54:58 You fix it in post. Do post! What was it called that clip? I thought ABC drama is what it would be you had this whole thing of their they got marching music and oh yeah that was great Yeah, what's on ABC? What would you call that? Of course it was on ABC but would you have called that clip because now I can't find it of course Well if I could find my list of clips does show 599? I thought it was 599 but I guess not I don't know. Let me see, I have a... That's okay we'll deal with it later. Anyway trust me, we do the same thing. It's exactly the same. The thing that was interesting is the first thing i thought when i heard this was that

55:45 The Russians are obviously got the same kind of media that we have. Essentially state control, ours is like not state controlled per se but it is? Yeah There's a state controlling and there it is And they're brainwashing their public the same way we're brainwashing our public It's how countries begin to hate each other Oh, we're gonna blast these idiot Americans and Putin's. Oh these American well Well so that that's true We do think we own the place at the artist talk yesterday And you know an artists talk you know people go to that first of all they have no money no one buys anything Let's go ask questions and look Complicated one of these recently at the Richmond Art Gallery because they had some I wanted to look at somebody stuff woman the artist

56:31 Who's fairly famous and old she was gonna be there and give it artists talk And it was so I go there, and the place is packing up. I couldn't even get in So I didn't even go to the artist talk But it was packed up mostly I don't know if this would be the same in your area but it was mostly a little quasi elite old women middle-aged old women no age range But I mean, of course. I was chatting with everybody and it was like oh yeah Putin Oh Bo yes you owe Putin Oh if Putin left Oh if there's gonna be a 2015 cuz of Putin everyone's all because you're right they're indoctrinated Here's that here's an ABC clip that I found just to show you this the the America American indoctrination program

57:19 That very real threat of nuclear war seems a long time ago, but watching developments this week it was hard not to think about those bad old days of the Cold War. How is this different from a mushroom cloud in the background? We've got air raid sirens! Russian troops on the march. The US sending fighter jets to eastern Europe. test firing an intercontinental ballistic missile ICBM though unarmed so you know thank you that is where we invented this. We know how to, we look at the movies and we know how to do this

58:03 Yeah, we do it better than anyone. So to say... It's not that an expert can't come along from someplace else No but to say... Based on Bernays and archives Just the gall to say well Russian state television is really making their people afraid Oh hey you know speaking of afraid John whoa whoa whoa thank you for your courage I think we need to say in the morning to you John C Dvorak We are now into the show We're into the show. We've got to stop. Yes, thanks some producers I want to say in the morning do you Adam Curry in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in The air subs in the water and the dames and the nights out there and two of course our artists Thank you very much major kills Who we used for episode 600 be he or she? I guess he Had a great piece of art really nice that read their background with all those memes in there all the show no actually shownote section means

58:59 for our 600th episode and of course in the morning to everybody there in the chat room thank you for your kittens and courage. And that's at noagendastream.com we could not have any kind of conversation as free-and-flowing is this If it were not for our model, which is that one of value for value no commercial messages No one to have a meeting with later on if you don't support us the show goes away if you do support us we continue On our merry way and we have a couple people who think yeah, you've rhymed. Well, it's the same word but yet right Use the same word twice and call it a rhyme. Oh, that's what this poet would do this guy read earlier

59:38 Okay, we do have a few people to thank want to thank them. We have two executive producer We didn't have we had a drop-off as expected after our show 600 celebration But it at least we made it through with a couple of executive producers Philippine Vinky in I think its finger vink finger sinka think Philippine the finca in his horse Hillshorst Holland, $471.10 is an unusual number. Dudes she says, dudes please accept my donation in return I would like to receive a personal ringtone. I'd prefer George Clooney as the spy followed by Adam shouting out my name Philippine think up preferably with a Dutch accent and ended by you've got karma. Okay hold on a second stop let me do this let me get this out of the way first okay then we can continue okay

1:00:34 George Clooney, George Clooney, George Clooney is a spy. Philippine Finker! You've got karma Alright now let's try to do it right What was wrong with that? Okay here's the problem you had the George Clooney- stepped on George Clooney as a spy It supposed to flow together she wants a ringtone No no no you stepped on at the beginning You were still clearing your throat when you hit the George Clooney button and so it's like George with a guy coughing. She needs at least half second of silence before. Now, the second one is when she says shouting out my name Philippine Finca you are under the DBs on that one I could barely hear you! Oh okay well thank you for

1:01:23 Can you do a little more producer-y? Like, like... Okay Adam let's try that one more time. That was a good first try Adam! Let's do one more. We need to safety. One for safety okay. In five. George Clooney Did you step on that?! I didn't do anything i'm listening. It must be in the clip i'm sorry all right um in five. George Clooney is a spy. Fifth finger You've got karma. Perfect! Well, you were a little tight at the end there... ...you could have given half-a second at the end but okay good to go

1:02:10 Alright, that was good. And what else is she saying her note? She says maybe you can install donation plan for people who would like to receive a personalized ring to okay. Yes, well $5,000 and cents oh is that the new number 471 tell us when she paid she paid I like it I Like it 471 10 okay. I Plan on becoming a knight being a lady. I prefer real knighthood instead of a lame Dame hood What does that mean? I don't know. She just, I put the word lame and she didn't say it. By the way she sends me a lot of info. She's a real producer. She sends lots of links and all kinds of stuff. She says it is way more posh to tell people you have been girderd in Holland. Geriddered. Geriddered. Geriddered.

1:02:55 Oh, I see what she wants. Okay so you can actually be knighted or they say as you get a ribbon in Holland like kind of like an OBE in the UK So she wants to wait until I'm an honorary consul and then I can... Oh have YOU give her that job? Yeah which I guess she'll be deserving of Anyway she says in the morning everybody In the morning David Varney $366.66 from Apollo, Pennsylvania and he just sent a note in saying he's getting to knighthood no read this show double-check Let me see if you made it He's got 100 200 s 3 3 4 5 6 he actually I didn't send this on to Eric. There's an item night at 19 I apologize they couldn't get to this prior to the show 600 but I hope you forgive him small oversight Thanks you yes? He has to be knighted otherwise will be oh it'll be our fault

1:03:47 Yes, sorry about that Eric. That's alright cuz I also remembered to write down Elliot Gardner which you also forgot Oh well, I'm sorry anyway 100 200 yeah he's got the numbers so yeah and I think he's short a penny It's okay. I'll kick that one in for him no problem And he'll also be the executive producer for show 601 and then John DiMaggio in Methwin Massachusetts nuts $233.33 maybe a Methuen? Methuin, Methuin. I am new John and Adam for your courage thanks I have been a listener for just a short time but you have surely opened my eyes wide to the mainstream media mind control I've been long suspicious of big business and media in the government until now within a subsistence like can I really appreciate what they're trying to do to keep us in line

1:04:39 One of my biggest pet peeves has long been manufacturers practice of freshness born on and expiration dating. Yes, I do agree that products expire but come on folks this practice is turning to aggressive marketing companies are convincing the slaves out there that they throw away perfectly good products so that they can run to the store and spend more of their hard-earned money in a new fresher product." Can i take some blame for this? Okay it's your fault The borne on is my fault yes Do you want to know why I came up with that. Oh, the bournon for the Budweiser beer? Yes! You came up with it? Yes. You're the born on guy? Yes! Holy moly Would you like to hear the story briefly? Yeah, give it to us. The company was on ramp before became Think New Ideas and Anheuser-Busch was our first client and we built Budweiser dot com and budlight dot com And we built the website because they had lots of content with Clydesdale's and Brewmeister's and all this crap whatever and racing in music Do you have a date? It was like the late 90s I bet

1:05:42 No, 94. 94-95 very early on started no maybe even yeah 95 I would say and at the time every Budweiser cannon beer had a barcode on it and while we were in St Louis at the you know of the original brewery there they showed us how you could calculate that barcode number down to the quarter hour when that beer came off of the assembly line So we created a widget, a widget on the website where you entered that number and then you could see when your beer was born. And it was the born-on date of your beer and they liked it so much they started putting it on their product. So I'm sorry! Well I think they've stopped doing that. Oh no... No, no, no. That was so successful for them? Of course I didn't get paid any extra for it

1:06:36 But that was the idea. Kerry Goss? Nothing, nothing but anyway that's how that happened. DiMaggio goes on on the topic of intervention in the scientific community I've recently read China study where the author details how researchers and other influential people in a scientific community are on the payroll of big business to promote their agenda jeez yeah and slant studies have health benefits yes especially if unhealthy foods those telling us what we We and our human resources should be eating are on the payrolls of the businesses that are producing the foods. Sounds familiar? Climate change! Find my enclosed $200 as payment for your hard work and continued efforts I could use some karma, as i've recently been shopping my IT talents in an effort to land a new gig with it My current employer all right? Karma. Oh why isn't firing here we go sorry about that You've got karma

1:07:33 And thank you for your courage and for your support. Jean DiMaggio Onward! Scott Blair in Missouri City, Texas $200.33 Hailing from Houston I'm a day late and dollar short congratulations on Excuse me show 600. I'm a new listener and greatly enjoy your insights and media crap filter I've already hit several friends in the mouth with it my fellow no agenda business owner listeners I am an independent broker for merchant services I will set up a 33% monthly donation For any referrals on commissions earned website is get paid concepts calm just let me know if

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1:09:17 He didn't send a follow-up email that I can find and he is in Bergen, Norway and it's $200. And then Jackie or Jacqueline Priester in parts unknown California she just couple different address didn't know what to use she did actually didn't send the notice she sent a cute little card She sent a card! Awww thats always nice Yeah its a card and shes got the greatest little kind of boxy handwriting It says dynamite I wish everyone hit was legible but she didnt say anything except thank you for your courage but it was very legible. Okay and that'll conclude our donors for show 601, producers I'm sorry the producers for show 601 two executives and one two three four associates thank you all very much it's highly appreciated these are real credits in fact if you go to IMDB and search around just see lots of people have their no agenda executive producer and associate executive producer credits listed in there IMDb apparently helps you get work

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1:11:11 One of the things that we have been tracking for a while now, several years is the six-week cycle. And of course this six week cycle It could go away at any time, I think you even put that in the book but it did show up again almost to the day maybe one or two days. Yeah, I'm looking...I should mention I am looking at this cycle as centering on the first of a month over the 15th of a month and so what you end is that makes it easier for the bookkeepers and then the budgeting of the FBI. And explanation again because people got little crazy on the tweeters

1:11:51 The six-week cycle is not just some event that happens on the date. Like, oh no someone died! No it is very specific the FBI... It is also specific to the Federal Bureau of Investigations they need to announce every six weeks some kind of thwarting of a terror attack and it's typically done with a patsy they've been goading and honeypotting for months so that they can continue to justify their budget. So it's not always this huge... Last one was the Wichita, Kansas guy who was going to blow up the airport and then he didn't even have the code to get onto the tarmac and then this kid... But the guy was set-up and brought in you know it was so obvious I have a little rundown clip here Well I have a rundown too and mine is probably pretty complete because its done by a freelancer who I can find any record of

1:12:47 What is the... Complete rundown of your six-week cycle. If you think... It looks good, it's longer than mine so it must be great! It's pretty concise. Is ABC 7 News? Oh, it's America Today! ABC! It's ABC? Yes! Good evening, I'm Dan Ashley. And I'm Carolyn Johnson ABC 7 News reporter Cornell Bernard is live at San Joaquin Delta College in Stockton tonight with more for us Cornell

1:13:26 Well that's not fair, you put 30 minutes of intro in there. That's not really fair I wanted...I was gonna take it out, straight to Cornell but i wanted to make sure that you realize it was an ABC affiliate. Yeah okay good point On the campus of San Joaquin Delta College tonight where Nicholas Toussaint attended classes fellow classmates are... He didn't use his three names! Come on this is bogus Shocked that he was arrested near the Canadian border this morning on terror charges trying to get to the Middle East I'll go active duty after this semester ends. That's 20-year old Nicholas Toussaint, last week he was interviewed about someone wearing a fake military uniform on the campus of Delta College in Stockton This week he is in federal custody accused of supporting terrorism Allah is a wonderful and most great

1:14:13 He's a best of planners. Videos posted by Nicholas Toussaint on the internet paint a picture of a young man fascinated with Al Qaeda, several videos on his YouTube page depict terrorist attacks against the US. Toussaint appeared in federal court Monday he is accused of exploring ways supporting violent extremist activities and attempting to join al-Qaeda Court documents say Toussaint popped up on the FBI's radar last summer after he posted several terrorist messages on social media, including a plot to bomb the LA subway system. Undercover agents posing as extremists earned Toussaint's trust. How do you pose as an extremist?

1:14:53 Is it a hat you wear? Hey, look at me. You may be confusing me for an extremist. He told one I want my face on the FBI's top 12 most wanted because that means i'm doing something right. Toussaint told informants he was trying to get to Syria to fight alongside Al-Qaeda It was shocking that someone from student here Delta would be known as probably a terrorist. Toussaints classmates say he was quiet and liked to play chess He was newly converted Muslim, but he never really... He never really pushed it onto anybody. He never said anything, he was just normal. Tucson's aunt in Lodi said this... All I know is that he moved back to California and has been living with his mom. Tucson joined the California National Guard in 2012 but never made it to boot camp after failing to meet education requirements. Alright, uh- He was an idiot! That's his educational requirements? The guy could barely speak or walk?! I have to play my clip because

1:15:54 They use you always have to have the three names. You got to use the middle name and think my clip has a better YouTube video of him doing uh, you know some as I'm talking some Arabic crap and it's shorter and it's shorter jocks I mean, I totally forgot about them up until today friends of accused terror suspect Nicholas Michael Toussaint There you go, Nicholas Michael Toussaint that now you're talking mind It surprising that But the 20-year old Washout from the U.S. Army National Guard was in court today facing federal charges The feds say Toussaint bragged on social media and to informants about plans to join Al Qaeda in Syria So they had a community college student pulled off an Amtrak bus at the US Canadian border last night He's also accused of targeting Los Angeles public transportation system

1:16:40 Alaykum salam to all my brothers and sisters. That's a YouTube video Tussaint posted last year. The FBI complaint states, Tussaint goal was maximum fear and the maximum blow to the US government so he could watch it tumble in fall in the wake of a civil war now that's that's a report John Maximum fear. Civil War, watch it tumble and fall! I said well like em...I don't like bar my brothers and sisters. Agents alleged last December Tucson also warned the informant don't go to LA anytime soon if you go don't use the subway. The LAPD wouldn't discuss this specific case but say there's a lesson for everyone if someone behaves this way

1:17:21 If you see something, we want you to say something. If something looks a little unusual and you see some suspicious behavior please do give us a call. Come on, okay. Okay you win You got the better of the two clips not because it was had all the good details like he plays chess Well because it has all the good memes It had the three names it had to see something say something and then it had the downfall of the government bull This guy this guy can't even tie his shoes And and it had a washout was also a good little jab and that had a very nice tie-in

1:18:03 That I'm now trying to download really quickly because it had a musical tie-in. I don't know if you caught it Yeah, but did not catch a musical tie in is there a new yeah? Well song hitting the market No and and in fact only you and I would probably catch this one home on its almost done downloading I mean, I had to go purchase it real quick You're actually spending money while doing the show? Yes. On the show itself? Yeah, what's up with that? Wow! You are dedicated ladies and gentlemen I'm spending a whole...actually this is expensive This is $1.29 but it's okay here it is Come on load I can get an e-book for 30 cents less Oh man what is going on It doesn't work Yeah it does

1:18:55 Here it is everybody! From our new Patsy for the six week cycle. Do you get it yet? Come on John, you know this song I do but I'm not seeing that and now trying to sketch the tie-in Well what's the name of the song? I don't know Wait for the hook Ready and everybody come on out I got it. Fast forward. Here we go! There you go. That was a long way to go, I'm sorry. I'm sweating. Also just released in time for the six-week cycle issue 12 of Inspire Magazine

1:19:56 Oh, it came out right on the spot. Yep! Issue 12 I have not been able to... Well i'm glad to see the CIA and FBI working together pushing aside the NSA Nice to have the guys in one camp for a change doesn't it? Yeah no it feels good Speaking of which we could move onto the Snowjob report I watched a riveting Of course It was hard to find it although luckily The Privacy and Civil Liberty Oversight Board tweeted We're gonna be on C-SPAN too! And let me tell you, if you see this video and this is the presidential approved and nominated board. Oh what? Before you go there I just want to mention that people that the next cycle is on May Day, May 1st so continue. Thank You This board was initiated and nominated by the president

1:20:53 And if we've done the timeline, the director Medin could not get confirmed for 500 days and then he gets confirmed just two days before the Snowden revelations. It's amazing how this timing works! Fascinating even he thought it was fascinating so the board convenes and they've got...and it's all lawyers the whole its lawyers wall to wall wall-to-wall Which is disconcerting because you know we've got, who do we have on here? We have... hold on. I wrote down some of the names. Now we've got David Medin he's a lawyer of course but he is the chairman of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board Brad Wiegman who was the Deputy Attorney General for the National Security Division And then we have Rajesh De, D-E, Rajesh De

1:21:45 general counsel, a lawyer for the National Security Agency. And then we also have an interesting guy who you'll hear in one of these clips I have James X Dempsey. James X Dempsey! I kind of like it having an x as a middle name and James X Dempsey is from the Center for Democracy and Technology he's also on your Privacy & Civil Liberties Oversight Board And what I like to play here is the first clip where in James Medin said to the Brad Weidman, the deputy. Could you please give me an overview of the definitions used in all these conversations? I thought that would be very handy for us to have because what really is a locator? You know what a locator is John? Someone who finds cool places to shoot movies That's a scout Okay

1:22:44 And I think it's good because, you know, I learned a lot of things just from hearing these definitions and really will help you when maybe if in the off chance that you see some news about everyone in the world being spied on. It's good to know because then you'll actually know what is being said. I'd like to get back into some of these definitions here which are there some terms here would be helpful for us to understand your view on It means what is a target, what is a tasking, what is a selector and what's a directive. I'm sorry, selector not locator, a selector If you could explain those terms because I want to shift how those terms might apply in the about context Okay, if I can take a stab at that

1:23:26 Um, it sounds like I can think of that. But then I'm a lawyer here comes so our target is the maybe you should start with selector since that's the uh, the operative term that mind on a selector would typically be an email account or a phone number that you are targeting. So this is the, uh, you get no terrorist at Google.com write this down John a selector would be terrorist at google.com Okay, got it You know whatever? The address that you have information about that is you have reasonable to believe that person is a terrorist and you like collect foreign intelligence Information I'm a reasonable to believe yes

1:24:12 You're reasonable to believe. I'm very reasonable to reasonable believe on that person's account So when you go up on that selector and we say go up on or target that selector, That means we're collecting information We're going to the provider and getting information from it related to that person's accounts who were intercepting in real time And then collecting the stored communication of that particular account Okay so what do you mean by targeting a selector? You're using that selector, you're providing that to the company provider to get information on that account or if it's a phone number on that phone number. So when we say selector its really an arcane term people wouldn't understand but its really phone numbers email addresses things like that. So it's phone numbers email addresses things like that

1:24:54 Those are selectors that are being targeted in real time. He's not going to mention this, but in upstream collection which was on screen which is quote the collection of metadata and contents directly from internet and phone cables That would be your second street room where they're literally tapping stuff off of the fiber And targeting means that's what you're trying to get They may be in communication with other email addresses or other phone numbers and so forth. Those are not the targeted numbers or accounts, those are others that are incidentally acquired because they're on the other end of these communications So target is what you're going after and the statute requires that target to be a non-U.S person located overseas

1:25:35 And so that's the foreignness determinations that we're talking about as we go through the great lengths to make sure that target is in fact belongs to a non-U.S person and is located overseas. The other two questions you had? Tasking or task? Tasking, when you are going and saying okay I want to task this account means I want to collect information from that account The collection of selector you task a selector so you're identifying that's when you take that selector to the company and say this one's been approved We've concluded that it is does belong to anonymous person overseas a terrorist or proliferator or cyber person whatever it is I'm a person, and then we go to the company get the information and directive so directives are the Backing up a little bit because there's a word he used in there. I wanted to write it down

1:26:22 Or the solicitator or something like that. Solicitor, facilitator... You're going and saying okay I want to task this account means I want to collect information from that account so that's a collection of data. You task a selector? So you identify it when you take that selector to the company and say this one has been approved we concluded that it does belong to a non-U.S person overseas terrorist or proliferater cyber person whatever it is in then we go to the company get the information And directive So directives are the orders that go to the companies that say they have to comply with lawful tasking. That's kind of more overarching order, it goes to a company provider and says okay you have legal obligation to comply with taskings that are given to you and here are the rules and everything and that is all provided to them. We learned a lot of interesting terms here but there is something that... By the way, the word I was looking for was proliferator?

1:27:18 How's that? Well, it's like a cyber person Here's something that we did not know obviously the privacy and civil liberties oversight board is working for us That's why they and you should see this shit They're nothing like some cool room with guards and wooden panels in a dais there. They're they're like in a Marriott I'm not kidding with a skirt over the tables and they don't have mics that can turn on or off their old AKG, like the big vocal mics. And that's what you hear... Everyone is moving the mics around. They have bowls of candy, like little peppermints that the Marriott provides. It's pathetic! That is pathetic and by the way

1:28:04 There's a lot of people do conventions and stuff at these Marriotts and these sorts of places. I know exactly what you did, but i've been in that kind of room way too much And it's horrible then you go into the lobby and then they have some food... And everyone talks to you and out of their mouth comes this vile coffee smell that is made up of dead mice and bird shit Crap that you can eat if you dare to and they always have the worst croissants Croissants and the bagels are like dough balls of God knows what. It's not actual food Yes with cream cheese in a little plastic containers Yeah, but here's what we learned David Medin who was working for us And I appreciate what this guy is doing

1:28:51 He's going to ask a very important question about these selectors, which as you recall is Can be an email address like terrorist at google.com? Which you know could be an obvious one to check out it could be a phone number but it's not just The phone number or the email address or the selector. There's no to or from that particular email address or particular phone number. Why is that targeting? That is permissible under the statute So did you catch what he just said No, they explain it is so let's say that you have an email address which is terrorist at google.com and Of course that has been targeted And they've given a directive and their tasking that so they get there tracking that in real time however if that must be a non us person However, if there are two so if you and I

1:29:58 In our email conversation between Adam at curry calm and John at the vorac org mentioned Terrorist at google.com they can now that tap into our email accounts if they could get into it, and It's valid to now Ease drop on our conversation because we mentioned the selector right so the conclusion there again in a typical case you're right if you're targeting You know bad guy Google.com we write this down bad new guy Bad guy knows about terrorists bad guy at google.com You're targeting that person's account their communications why bounce collection is different is it?

1:30:42 It's not necessarily communications. It's called a bouts collection, John abouts collection which I got what a lawyer term that is about that person's account their communications why bouts collection is different? Is it's not necessarily communications to or from that bad guy but instead about that selector and so what the court has concluded is that when that statute uses the term targeting a non-U.S. person overseas, targeting that selector qualifies under the statute for targeting that non-U.S. person overseas so it doesn't have to be targeting necessarily to or from but can also target communications about particular selector. So there's different meaning of target than earlier which is where you're focusing on an account and now your discussing targeted means discussions about that account?

1:31:26 about that selector, correct? It is always focused on that account. So I think the key is the misperception So, literally. If I were to email you, which I'm sure at some point have done and I put in that email Anwar al-Awlaki or some other douche knuckle who's on the top 10 list. Now if I mentioned his email address, I'm sorry so anwaralawkiatterrorist.org or badguyatgoogle.com now both of our email accounts can legally be targeted

1:32:24 For them to listen to upstream which means in real time so they don't even need to break into my email server They can just how about a tap in real, real-time. This is bullshit! Yeah and here's one of the reasons it is bullshit I want to target you So I send you an email about badguygoogle.com and say, hey Adam what do you think about badguygoogle.com? Yeah now your fucked! I don't even have to answer Right And i dont even have to be somebody that you know I could be an NSA guy What are we going to do Bill to get around these rules Hey I got a great idea

1:33:05 Why don't we just email everybody? Here's our final clip and this was so in one minute and 18 seconds you will hear the unfiltered exactly what was said in this hearing which The Guardian, Washington Post and everyone wrote hundreds thousands of words. Boy great journalism! You're producing great journalism people! Trying to clear up another issue In terms of the participation of service providers, or the awareness of service providers in 702 implementation.

1:33:44 Is 702 implemented all 702 not just to clarify when they talk about service providers in this context This is very difficult for people who have been on the internet for a while That is not your ISP. That does not like Comcast or Time Warner that is someone who provides an Internet service that can be Yeah website Yahoo Google Apple exact exactly I ask you a question, and I just came up with it yes sure So okay, I'm going back to this abouts collection. Mm-hmm so And I hate this, I said so twice. That's okay. Hey you said about stop. We might as well say anyways if we're talking about about anyways let's talk about about a boot about now the if you send me an email about bad guy at google.com and whether you know me or not let's say you do that uh and they're not monitoring my email supposedly how do they know this? No of course they know this

1:34:43 How do they know this? Unless they're monitoring my email already. Because they are listening upstream all the time, the metadata... This is content it's not metadata! This is raw content. Oh yeah, well surprise! These guys are lying to us. Surprise! Hello? And the ones who are really lying to us are these service providers. Service providers or the awareness of service providers in 702 implementation. Is 702 implemented all 702 implementation is done with the full knowledge and assistance of any company that

1:35:24 From which information is obtained. Is that correct? Yes So early on in the did you hear that little of that little thing before he answered You got the yet The lawyers talking to the lawyer gummed you go ahead just say it just fucking saying I bet Go ahead bust them these fucking assholes and it's gonna come up just say it yes, they all know they know They're lying to everybody there pretending like they don't just go ahead and say it man formation is obtained. Is that correct? Oh You want to take that question? Yes. The answer is yes from all of us. So early on in the debate, there were some statements by companies who may or may not have been involved in the program saying well we never heard of Prism but whether they ever heard of Prism any company that was from whom information was being obtained under 702 knew it was being obtained

1:36:17 Correct. Prison is just an internal government term that as a result of the leaks became a public term, but collection under this program is done pursuant to compulsory legal process that any recipient company would have received And so they know that their data's being obtained because... They would've received legal pro... Stop! Who's asking this question? James X Dempsey who was on the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board. I'm liking this guy! I told you i liked the guy, his middle name is cool... James x Dempsey Xavier So what he's saying is wait a minute these Silicon Valley companies all went like we don't know anything about this

1:37:00 They all knew... I protest to you Mr. Obama! I'm calling the president, you lying sacks of poop It's a reminder that these companies cannot encrypt all your data because then their business model falls apart This is the catch 22 If they were to really encrypt all of your email so that the upstream collection would falter, they could also not put in advertising because they wouldn't know what you're talking about which is one of the main business principles of Gmail. SEO would not work on Google if you had end-to-end encryption of your searches So it's never going to happen and this is the big secret of Silicon Valley

1:37:52 And they are in bed. NSA equals Google, Facebook equals FBI and there's some CIA in there because they financed them early on. I will plug-in my television right now. Reminded everyone that there is no proof yet. There is no identification and so if we're hanging on that CNN could be Let's switch to Fox for a second That was all of your life, okay commercial I found it napkin in the ocean

1:38:40 I was just hoping that's fine. It's funny because usually Fox and CNN are in sync on the commercials That is what recently they've got different clocks Oh, really? They this is only recently different format. Oh here we go We're back real story just how many hours are left in the Malaysia Airlines Black Random sampling ladies and gentlemen and that was very good live. This is like live TV Only we're not as hot as these chicks I'm seeing, which is kind of you know... It gets more money than we do and free dinners. So there you go! That is that so they knew about it They're lying about it. They will not change it because ruins their entire model they are afraid that somehow someone's that the and of course it's really not gonna matter because people are so dumb so dumbed down I should say

1:39:37 They don't know. It's like water! I have my electricity, I have my Googles... You know got my Gmail it's free that's the way it is isn't the government provide that? If people said the government provides your email they go okay good That's where it is today Okay well that makes sense Nobody cares No they absolutely do not give a rats ass and I do I've been working with the void zero sir 19-inch rack we've been Working on encrypting all of the no agenda everything's now with a DNS sec by the way so that you know We will be secure and we cannot be hijacked and someone can't just you know Just all of sudden take over our website which should take over their website in whatever Now this does bring me to another topic, which I did want to discuss briefly

1:40:27 This is ICANN because I was severely, SEVERELY disappointed. Well no, let me take that back... I was very happy to see that I won our bet from last week. What bet? You went on the Twitch show There was no money involved you still owe me a dollar from it a couple of shows ago And the bet was that Leo would be all in on the United Nations running mentioned on the show I saw is too bad. I know did that if you don't recall that right yes, yeah Yeah, now. I know he says what what how does it your laws? How did she lose her bet because you're so predictable Leo oh

1:41:05 I didn't say that. What i said was what you'd said which is you'd be all for it because Leo's basically an internationalist he's all in on that. I would like to explain, cause this is what was disappointing no one had taken two seconds of time to investigate what really the deal is with ICANN they just read something from The Verge oh! I read it in The Verge this must be how its going down this is tech news for you I hate to harsh on it, but there were a couple other people on that show and no one did any work. First let's explain the difference between IP ranges and domain names ICANN does not hand out IP addresses okay? There are three different organizations in the world In Europe for instance is RIPE they hand out the blocks of IP addresses ICANN is not in charge of that

1:41:58 They do not hand out block ranges. They only do the DNS resolution and work on domain name disputes I happen to know a little bit about this their charter and their mission since 1997 President Clinton made it very clear that the ultimate goal he directed, the Secretary of Commerce to eventually privatize entirely the domain name system in a manner that increases competition and facilitates international participation in its management. And specifically it was not to be transferred to a governmental or intergovernmental body

1:42:39 Now this is what's interesting because this obfuscates the or eliminates the immediate transfer to a body like the United Nations. So they had a green paper that came out and it was supposed to happen around 2000 but of course it took much longer, and this ICANN operation which really only... It used to be guy was it John Postel? The guy who used to like he had a spreadsheet I think and he had all the domain names and there was in the IP addresses that resolved to it It's basically a big database that maintains that which is an illusion that this is the internet. We talked about that the other day, you can go to The OpenNIC Project there are many other ways... Yeah okay we'll get your point Shut up man don't be like that! You're beating around the bush is the problem I have to remind people some people come in for the first time just because you're impatient

1:43:32 So there's a transition plan for ICANN which has been on the bottom and all these documents are at the Clinton Transition Plan. It's all PDFs, they're in the show notes Here is an FAQ that I need to read so you understand where this is really going And what is going to happen? Again this is what people believe The Internet is it's not! It is not the network itself but is the layer of domain name services on top Which is replaceable Why is the United States initiating this transition now? Answer, ICANN as an organization has matured and taken steps in recent years to improve its accountability and transparency... ...and its technical competence. At the same time international support continues to grow for the multi-stakeholder model of Internet governance... ...as evidenced by the continued success of the Internet Governance Forum... ...and resilient stewardship of various internet institutions

1:44:27 Important question, are the legacy top-level domains associated with the US government e.g., .mill, .gov and .edu part of this transition? No! No no NO! Operation responsibility for the three remaining legacy top level domains associated with U.S. government are not impacted by this transition What will be the role of governments in developing... Where are you reading these facts from? From the ICANN Transition Plan Is it from, is an ICANN? Yes. It's at icann.org. Yes. Okay go on. The PDF What will be the role of governments in developing the transition proposal like the other stakeholders that are part of ICANN multi-stakeholder model we expect governments will have an opportunity to provide input either via ICANN governmental advisory committee or as individual governments NTIA will not accept a proposal that replaces the role with government or intergovernmental organization solution

1:45:27 And here's the very interesting one. Will the results of this process affect VeriSign's agreement to operate the .com registry? No! That is a separate agreement between VeriSign and ICANN, for VeriSign... ...the only potential change will be the maintenance and publication of the root zone So those guys stay in the game and it's a big money maker for everybody who is involved. And if you want to get top level, this whole thing is a commercial bull crap operation for money that could have been managed much easier However You heard the word internet governance and Internet Governance Forum This is the problem

1:46:08 What is the Internet Governance Forum? It serves to bring people together from various stakeholder groups as equals, but not to make decisions or negotiate. Instead they discuss exchange information and share good practices with each other while the IGF may not have decision-making abilities it informs and inspires those who do UN connection again this is from their own documentation And this is where you see where this is going. More than 60 years ago, the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Negotiators then could not possibly have imagined that a quarter-of-a century later there would be a new invention—the Internet! And yet it seems they had the Internet in mind when they drafted Article 19. Write it down kids! Here's where the government and the New World Order takes over your internet

1:46:57 Quote, everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression. Semicolon This right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek receive and impart information and ideas through any media regardless of frontiers. Now this article encapsulates the very essence of the Internet and its borderless nature The internet is seen as providing a crucial international platform So this Internet Governance Forum and the, I think the other one is the GAF is staffed by... it's a panel on Global Internet Corporation. Is staffed by any guesses? Douchebags! People from Google people from Yahoo people from Apple people from Microsoft why do you think Google is providing free DNS to everybody

1:47:54 This is much worse, much much worse than a direct government takeover. The internet's going to be run by people like Google this is why Vint Cerf isn't here and they are going to determine what Internet freedom is, what Internet governance is, what the rules of the road are going to be there's a document here 128 pages written by Vint Cerf about Internet governance in its art shared responsibility This is very, very bad people. It is the internet as most people know it... ...is going to go away! This is what I said! Yeah but I'm just giving the backup and the proof! Yeah well you did better than I did. I just saw it coming like a fastball and didn't really bother looking at how many seams were on it No you just go, hey shit's going away crap

1:48:43 It's done and but yeah, no and I just saw Eric Schmidt They was replaying his little talk with his buddies Cohen guy this State Department guy which like the two of them apparently travel all over together And it's like a it's like Clooney in his buddy. Oh yeah, and they're flying around and they were being interviewed at the Computer History Museum by Cheryl Sandberg after 15 minutes We're good friends. Lean in! I haven't seen you for a week, kissy-kissy." So after that they started and poor Eric had because he's just who he is now and he's now uh... He just looked like a guy who was just in a different world. I think he dresses up in leather has that orange ball on his mouth on weekends It's always a possibility. I wanted to read from this 128 page document written by Vint Cerf who works for Google

1:49:40 Of course he's a very important scientist and he created some very important protocols, but screw that! He works for Google. This is from the Tunis Agenda for the Information Society There's a little intro and it is written like a UN document. I'll just do here an example, introduction one we recognize which is bolded that it is now time to move from principles to action considering the work already being done in implementing the Geneva plan of action and identifying those areas where progress has been made or has not taken place We reaffirm the commitments made in Geneva and build on them in Tunis by focusing on financial mechanisms for bridging the digital divide

1:50:21 on internet governance and related issues as well as on implementation and follow-up of the Geneva and Tunis decisions. Internet Governance! My God, this is... it makes me... I literally throw up in my mouth. Number 31 We recognize that internet governance carried out according to the Geneva principles is an essential element for a people centered inclusive development oriented and non discriminatory information society Fuck me with a chainsaw Vint Cerf Furthermore, we commit ourselves to the stability and security of the Internet as a global facility and to ensuring the requisite legitimacy of its governance based on the full participation of all stakeholders from both developed and developing countries within their respective roles and responsibilities. And we thank this UN Secretary General for establishing The Working Group on Internet Governance – WGIG

1:51:15 We commend the chairman, members and secretariat for their work and their report. This thing is all Geneva based it's all these assholes from these companies who think they're elite like where's Bill Gates he might as well be there oh we have to make sure that no one says poop! Make sure no one says you're gay! Don't don't don't don't do make sure... No bullying online. No bullying this is horrible I get it You can play the clip too which clip is that? Adam Curry's pet peeve of the day. Well it's not of the days... Adam C. Curry's Pet Peeve Of The Day! Well, todays' day he came up with it anyway. Okay yeah we're doomed to it's all about free speech but I just want to point out shutting people up yes if people don't talk and they don't write things that are like against the government then there will be no more wars Adam get with

1:52:11 Yeah, that's exactly right. And I'm sorry but i have not heard anyone or seen anyone point to any of the simply available documents in technology reporting just to say hey this is the deal this is what's really happening here's the connections here who's running it Google's gonna run a big part of this with Eric Schmidt I'm sure will be honorary chair knuckle of some of his bull crap And the only thing I'm happy about is that the network is unstoppable. The DNS, we'll have to create subsystems for that. Torrent will be important and we can still do that but just a website? No! That unfortunately... I see Mr. Curry by looking at your bill here in Time Warner Yes! I noticed you've been using some illegal DNS systems that are not allowed anymore Yeah they block that off

1:53:08 But you know, you cannot we give you two more strikes or you get no internet. I mean there's all kinds of ways understand Do you understand? I understand sir. I'm sorry. I will comply or so I Have a transition clip. All right Well, let me let me just finish this bit off here Oh You will obey So I'm just spending lots of time on C-SPAN this week. Yeah, me too! So I get this one... This is the WTF clip and I am listening to this clip so they bring Syria back into the issue

1:53:55 All this was completely alien to me. I always thought this already happened, I thought it was watching a rerun but play this... The Obama administration has suspended the Syrian embassy in Washington and ordered the expulsion of its diplomats and staff Secretary of State John Kerry said the Assad regime has lost the right to claim diplomatic legitimacy We just felt that idea This embassy is sitting here with representation that we could take seriously as an insult and we closed it's that simple And we'll see what happens in other places, but The Assad regime can never regain legitimacy in Syria whether they win don't win They can't regain the legitimacy. Uh They got you know what they need our help they've got too many messages changed

1:54:48 Well, what's your by the way? This is democracy now not C-SPAN. I just want to apologize for that mistake What but what changed well what changed is apparently some guy named Assad Moved out of Syria and some guy named ass hat moved in I can't do you hear ass had all the time I've programmed you Welcome as at Ron, listen to it. Listen to it again. It's going to drive you crazy now The Obama administration has suspended the Syrian embassy in Washington and ordered the expulsion of its diplomats and staff Secretary of State John Kerry said the Assad regime has lost the right to claim diplomatic legitimacy We just felt that this idea that this embassy is sitting here with representation we could take seriously was an insult

1:55:45 And we closed it. It's that simple and we'll see what happens in other places, but The Assad regime never said asshat I'm telling you I bet those guys sit around like hey Hey watch this. I'll say ass hat no one all noon will catch on it'll be really funny That's that as that regime man Okay, so we were talking about Snowden a minute ago? I've got the snowed-in clip did you see the robot Snowden No Okay, so they have the TED Is it a Ted X or is that head Vancouver's got it man. They've got it up there This must be a TEDx no no this apparently Vancouver got the real Ted is it a boot stuff like

1:56:33 So Vancouver's got the Ted and so they had Chris Anderson appears to me came out he introduced Snowden because he's one of the main guests Anderson runs to Ted right and so a robot comes out with a TV screen as Ahead no, it's snowed in. No yes I gotta look at this on one second We play this clip? No, you're still setting it up. Okay so meanwhile they take this clip and I think this may have been on Democracy Now! too Or one of the news shows, but I think it's Democracy Now. So you have to listen to what they clip from Snowden and what he said because they only run about six sentences of this nonsense It makes...it's a non sequitur it makes absolutely no sense if you try to listen to what he says and then try to take some notes And tell me what he said because just play it To the TED conference in Vancouver Canada

1:57:32 Speaking from Russia through a robot that wheeled out onto the stage, Snowden urged global citizens to work together against unwarranted government surveillance. The last year has been a reminder that democracy may die behind closed doors but we as individuals are born behind those same closed doors And we don't have to give up our privacy to have good government. We don't have to give up our liberty to have security and I think by working together, we can have both open government and private lives! And i look forward to working with everyone around the world to see that happen." Wow it you know what? I think Gregg Greenwald stopped writing for him or something because that was...

1:58:22 Democracies died behind closed doors but we're born behind those same closed doors. What does that mean? You can still have privacy and a government, that's what he said! The whole thing was ludicrous It's a shark jump of epic proportions and Tim Berners-Lee is on stage listening to this bullcrap He...Tim Berners Lee must be going damn man this is dumb why'd I sign up for this The whole thing was just ludicrous But the robot, that took the cake And this is yeah, I see it was not even a it's like one of the I've seen this in On a commercial somewhere. It's like an AT&T commercial where? Not a robot with arms and legs as his rolling thing So there's a kid in the hospital and the kid can't come to class but this Robot wheels through the halls of the school. Yeah really yet that happened in my school sure No, that's not how we that's dumb so stupid

1:59:25 I'm sorry, Snowden. Whatever he is or what it's... No, I think you're right. I think Greenwald stopped writing for him. Yeah jeopardizes everything and by the way everybody all over this uh This forget about it so stupid why am I even asking? The internet is dead man! Let's say differently the web is dead let's put that the web is captured hijacked But the Internet will never go away The network itself is indestructible as intended That's the good news. That's why I have to write my digital prepper book so people know how to use it and how To reboot things because what you've got now is not gonna cut it It's all gonna go away. All right, definitely on its way out I think we when this new guy that took over icon is who's a multi culti guy? Can't tell where he's from anything. He's uh, no, I think he's a Persian

2:00:22 Well, whatever he is. He goes on and he's just so slap-happy glad that this is happening This is great! We're out of a job and it's gonna be international like it should have been all along Oh no, oh no, no, no, no, no... He's not out of a job Fahad...Fadi Shahad Yeah His career has been defined by building consensus And promoting collaborative technologies and practices He has more than 25 years experience in building and leading progressive internet enterprises Let's see, Vocado LLC. A firm that is a provider of cloud-based software for the administration of educational institutions? Well there's a guy who set for life! I think he's Iran... Persian... He was brought in obviously to bust it up. Citizen of Egypt Lebanon and the United States. I guess he has three citizenships born in Beirut to Egyptian parents

2:01:20 Left the war-torn country in 1980. He speaks fluent Arabic English French and Italian Yeah, yeah you're right he's brought in to break it up But I think he's going to continue to lead this he's not going anywhere well as long as he can keep busting it up Vince sir Eric Schmidt and all these people are gonna come in all these elites who think they know better And they'll go young Zuckerberg I can call the president Dicks. It's a bunch of dicks! I have them on my speed dial Seriously, it's a bunch of dicks all these people but i'm sick of them i'm literally sick of them and they've hijacked you know so after this art talk yesterday no shut up about it No, I like this discussion Mickey and I so we got to grab a bite to eat it's like eight o'clock And I'd worked all afternoon So let's grab a bite then I mean I worked till 1 30 because that was just in the middle But I got my prep school night You know prep night

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2:17:38 We celebrated his birthday I think last Friday before show 600, and his brother Andrew Gardner, Sir Andrew Gardner. He has over 1500 in his standings and he is going to donate a part of that to compensate and fill up his brother's knighthood So because he already has, he was halfway there and so these brothers of course are big supporters the show we're happy to knight Sir Elliot Gardner make him Sir Elliot Gardner. I do not see if there's a special name for him and we also have David Durrell who was not knighted on Show 600 so he is a black knight doesn't happen often but this one we literally slipped on it and he will be sir Mr Texas of Phoenix

2:18:32 So I'll get my blade here didn't we have the one that was at the beginning of the show to that. I found David Varney I got a varney up you got him here just grabbed your sword and yep, okay? Good and all right said David Dural come on by Elliot Gardner and David Varney all three of you are now joining the elite group, The No Agenda Roundtable of Knights and Dames. So hereby pronounce thee Sir Black Knight, Sir Mr Texas of Phoenix, Sir Elliot Gardner and Sir David Varney. Gentlemen for you I've got it right here your hookers and blow your wrench boys in Chardonnay if you want i've got some bad science and perky breasts geishas and a bucket of fried chicken hot pants and booze sparkling cider and escorts or maybe just some mutton and mead

2:19:14 Congratulations, thank you very much for your support of the best podcast in the universe. It's highly appreciated it keeps us going and it's a value-for-value proposition so clearly you've gotten the value Thank You go to NoahGeneration.com slash rings to pick up your ring sealing wax and Your official certificate so that you can continue to hit people in the mouth Yes indeed I gotta let me see what Can we just do a little complete intro mezzo? Just two minutes, something completely different. Yeah! Okay this is a video that I thought was really nice to play the audio from

2:19:53 You may or may not have seen this. It's a two-minute video and it's really cute, old fashioned images but the audio speaks for itself and it will put a little bit of this crazy world into perspective I can't believe we made it According to today's regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 50s 60s 70s or even early 80s probably should not have survived. Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint we had no childproof lids or locks on medicine bottles doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes we had no helmets

2:20:30 We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. We ate cupcakes, bread and butter and drank soda with lots of sugar in it but we were rarely overweight because we were always outside playing. We would leave home in the morning to play all day as long as we were back when the street lights came on No one was able to reach us all day. Smartphones? We didn't have cell phones at all, no Playstations, Xboxes, limitless channels on cable laptops or tablets Facebook was an actual face and an actual book we had friends we went outside in found them we played dodgeball sometimes the ball would hurt we fell out of trees got cut broke bones and teeth there were no lawsuits from these accidents no one was to blame but us remember accident

2:21:16 We had fights and punched each other, got black and blue and learned to get over it. We made up games with sticks and tennis balls And although we were told it would happen, we didn't put out any eyes! We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home knocked on the door rang the bell Or just walked right in and talked to him Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team Those who didn't have to learn to deal with disappointment Some students weren't as smart as others, so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade. Tests were not adjusted for any reason Our actions were our own Consequences were expected The idea of parents bailing us out if we got in trouble in school or broke a law was unheard-of They actually sided with the school or the law Imagine that Now this generation has produced some of the best risk takers problem solvers and inventors ever

2:22:08 We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility. And we learned how to deal with it! If you've related to anything that was just said... You're one of them! Congratulations! You made it! I love that. Should be congratulations you old fart yeah i like it, congratulations John! You know this is the kind of thing...I detest this. This is the kind of thing I knew you would hate it now I mean I'm not disagreeing with the thesis but it's just a pontifical aspect of it and this is the kind of things shows up in email a lot if somebody says oh this is good on this shit so like some its chain letter by the way it's not like

2:22:47 sincerely emailing you, they're passing along a chain letter which has a laundry list of this crap and you know how the doors used to be two-toned and there'd be all these kinds of sentimental garbage. And I find it detestable! It's like it's got nothing to do with the problems at hand but okay we can bitch and moan and be sentimental about them about the way things should have been or used to be maybe they were good maybe their best beside the point that is not the world we live in We do have the smartphones, it's the way it is and they're all gonna get cut off someday by some government takeover. If anybody thinks that the one thing that has never changed is the war-like characteristics of the human species and its going to end up creating some horrible situation killing millions of people the way it always does in a cell phone connection is gonna be gone and people will know what to do because they never got their ham license That's what this should be about! And there it is your ham license exactly bottom line Ham

2:23:44 I was thinking the other day, is it feasible? What is your take on this that the human species has not been able to evolve in pace with what the internet delivers. Oh yeah Do you know what I mean? Yeah We can't process we don't know how to deal with it Because when you listen to this, yeah that's kind of how I grew up. We didn't have all that stuff and all of a sudden internet... The internet is the worst thing that has ever happened! I think you're right. It's the best of times and the worst of times in this same bucket But won't our kids will they or will it be their kids that maybe can do something? Or they all be just these robots like Snowden wheeling around on stage It's pretty much like The Futurama Show with Nixon's head in a jar Yeah, the kids will just be sitting at home jerking off to porn but there'll be attending school on those robots with wheels Yeah, something like that They'll be eating pop rocks

2:24:46 Yeah, it's true though isn't it? We have no... we don't understand how to maybe we need internet governance. Maybe we need to be rationed. I think the powers that be the elites and totally just trying to protect their stuff yeah throttles once they get their stuffs many of them got gotten ill-gotten stuff and as much of it is by accident but they've got it and want to keep it They're decided there's going to keep the whole world in check as long as they can so they can enjoy themselves Yeah, they're gonna throttle our access. So I got a couple of clips here that you're gonna get a kick out of Oh good! I need to kick Well your not going to get a kick the clips are kind boring but what the interesting thing was they were on Charlie Rose and i've go three of them Ukraine about how sanctions won't work another expert professor at Barnard College talks confirms your liquid natural gas thesis but it's all about and then the guy who is the host

2:25:43 Which curiously isn't Charlie Rose. Oh, but wait a minute me about in this sexuality It's in your DNA That's a bummer cuz I was all ready for Charlie So when Charlie Rose goes away for some reason or maybe they didn't want him on this particular show talking to one of the guests is the is the managing partner of the Kissinger and Associates group hmm sounds like a fine man hey The other one is a professor at Barnard. I'm Henry Kissinger, and i am going to kill you! And the guy who's now the host... You're gonna just die... Richard Haas, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations Wow really? Yes! Guys try to make it more obvious

2:26:29 Wow. Okay, sanctions won't happen first off? Yeah let's just play these and we can discuss them if you say. How do I get placed in Kiev a government that is going to be at minimum in the near term not hostile to my interests it's not gonna move closer to Europe and keep this Ukraine in play to a point where I think i can bring the whole thing into agreement. Professor Martin Kimbley just basically said that sanctions might not be able to do a whole lot for us what's your view? Do you feel we've got economic tools that could basically persuade Mr Putin to temper his ambitions? I think the short answer is no because particularly were not prepared to do a lot of harm to ourselves by meaning United States Europe or both? I think it has to be both, It has to be consolidated

2:27:13 use the term Western position, and there's a lot of economic hardship you could create that might cause Putin or Mr. Putin to rethink but we would have to be prepared to sacrifice a lot on our side as Kim has said I mean they are intertwined you can't hurt Russia without hurting us in some way and the problem is that when you look at this from the standpoint of European interest American interest, it doesn't rise to the level it does in Russia. So they're prepared to withstand a lot more pain than we are and I don't think that were prepared to do that damage to ourselves to make a point about changing borders in Europe at this point

2:27:52 Hmm. All right, I just beat like to beat the point up that this nothing's gonna come on Of course it's all it's all just posturing and it said we just want the missiles on the border and Just try to pressure the guy when he's weak and just go grab his stuff now Here's an interesting one This is the LNG thesis And I only clipped this because I thought you because I know your theory And I like it, because my theory is simpler which is that this all about Snowden. Although its not but I like that idea But you're in the LNG camp which thinks that this is all about getting our gas over there and screw the Russians Well thats a big part of it Not all but its a big part of it

2:28:31 And this is the woman, she's totally on board with this. You've already expressed your skepticism on economic sanctions but if the West for example increased its military collaboration with Poland and others If the West increased its energy exports to challenge Russia's advantages in that area would Mr Putin still see this as so much tipping the balance? What does Mr Putin bullcrap? What is that all about? You're in the Council of Foreign Relations, you call him Mr. Putin... I'm sorry, you're right. Well actually what Putin has done is to provoke the West to do exactly those things and what is so amazing is that Putin already had a great deal influence in Ukraine Ukraine is dependent on Russia for its natural gas imports there's such a large Russian ethnic population in Ukraine it meant whatever coalition government were to emerge over long term in Ukraine Putin would have influence there

2:29:23 Putin was about ready to sign contracts for aircraft development with Ukrainian enterprises when all of this went bad. And so in a sense, Putin has brought on himself the fact that now NATO is going to focus on the East-West divide in way that it hasn't been doing since the end of the Cold War and has certainly made it certain that Europe is going to increase its capabilities to accept liquid natural gas and other forms of natural gas alternatives. So when this happens, the glow shall we say wears thin in Moscow, and suddenly the Russian economy's paying a price Russia is even more isolated military NATO has essentially found a new lease on life

2:30:04 Does Mr. Putin then start confronting, if you will second-guessers and saying hey this may not have been such a good thing for us could it even in the short run if this helps him? In the medium and long run could just come back to could just come back and bite them well I'm sure what he's going to try to do is blame any economic problems on the West which has done already with the economic difficulties that Russia currently finds itself in but what's really going to make a difference is how the leaders of the Russian businesses that have been internationalized recently react to this Gazprom is becoming a pawn of the Russian state and it doesn't want to do that. It wants to be a profit-making entity. She's a professor at Barnard College. So something that I did pick up on one thing in that clip that I didn't know or maybe I did but he was working on an aircraft contract with Ukrainian manufacturers? Yeah, I guess. Interesting. Antonovs? I never heard of that either

2:31:13 Maybe that's anyway let me just wrap this up with this guy. This is the constant on foreign relations guy, most of the you'd learn more most about him by his questions themselves there's also a buzzword in this last clip which I want you to see he ringed the bell when you hear it which i've warned you about and this is just a random analysis about what would happen if they were you know they start arming these guys and obviously nobody thinks that's a good idea Tom if you were still in one of your old jobs at the state department or the white house And the president said, look I don't want to hear discouraging ideas. What i want to hear are your best ideas for what we can do to get Mr Putin to alter his calculus? What would you tell the President? There are two things One is that we have to recognize it's a Ukraine question and where Ukraine will be located economically and geopolitically over long term

2:32:05 And maybe Russia had significant leaders of influence in Ukraine, but the problem was that Ukraine was drifting westward. That's what the negotiation of the agreement, association agreement, was all about. NATO is still on the table even if pushed way on the back burner at this point So, one of the positive things you try to do is to take Ukraine off that geopolitical table at this point. A lot of people have talked about neutrality and non-alignment. Can you formalize that in some way for some period? To give Putin some confidence Ukraine is not going to be in play. Well, the Prime Minister of Ukraine just the other day basically said we have no intentions of becoming a member of NATO Basically meant to reassure shall we say Mr Putin? Absolutely but this would have to be something that then is endorsed by The United States and major European powers Should that be something the United States is prepared to do either on its own or an exchange for something else I think it's something the United State should be prepared to do on its own And it's something you want to have conversation with

2:33:06 that with Mr. Putin about as well? What about the question, as some have said of arming the Ukrainians The idea that United States and West would provide arms I've heard the other side argued That's worst of all options because it would be so slow to have real military effect It might actually provoke Mr. Putin to do something I mean the problem we had is Ukrainian state The state of the Ukrainian state I mean the way you would deal with Putin Ideally is to build a functioning Ukrainian State Russia moves in the vacuums They don't move into places where they're going to be meet stiff resistance calculus Calculus I keep an eye out for that word. I do have one more clip I want to play which is this is bet going back to the Council and strategy and international whatever which is the

2:33:57 This is a little this is like when we spotted the Crimean thing. This is a saint This is a similar situation apparently there's a similar situation in Moldova. This is what? What's his face McCain mentioned Moldova didn't he yeah Right. And this little situation, everybody that's at the think tank with all the hot shots of Brzezinski and the rest of them they all said this is nothing to even talk about or think about because we still gotta deal with Ukraine and should focus. While this is playing what was the name again of this thing tank everyone was at? The Center for Strategic and International Studies.

2:34:35 CSIS and I think the guy who asked this question is from the IIS another one of these bullcrap operations that are essentially just policy makers for the you know, good for the State Department largely. Thank You Francois Heizebourg from the ISS There's another country which has a common border with the with an EU member and with a NATO member And which has an agreement with the EU and that's Moldova And Moldova also has its own Crimea in the form of Transnistria, which is now asking Russia to become part of the Russian Federation. There is a game which is beginning now between Russia and Moldova to get Moldova to go to the Eurasian agreement in exchange for Transnistria not being made part of Russia

2:35:29 What should we be doing now to prevent that particular domino from falling? Because if it does, then you're going to have a problem for Russia of territorial continuity between Russian Transnistria and Russian Crimea. And that happens to be the southern borderlands of Ukraine. Transnistria or transmiss-tria? Which one is it? Transnistria. T R A N S N I S T R I A Great name! Yeah, really like that It's a breakaway state located mostly on the strip of land between the river D

2:36:11 uh... didn't nester and the eastern moldovan border with you to do it with my right right right what's what's going on there that's got to be some valuable now no so much i'm looking at the c s i s operative twenty nine point eight million dollars in two thousand ten and those a lot of these these like this big thing tanks have not yet even filed their two thousand twelve form nine nineties Which is, but they're past due now. I mean you can only get an extension until October of 2013 just like your own taxes like your personal taxes Yeah you can push it to one But why do these big organizations... what's the problem? Why can't they just do it? It doesn't make sense You think that if we hire one bookkeeper? No no its annoying and uh... I don't like it

2:37:09 I mean, so what? Well, I mean so what if you're going to be one of these operations running this kind of business with millions and millions of dollars in cash flow. You know, you're gonna have to be responsible it seems to me. Yeah they are not. Not that i think its a great idea but as far as im concerned everything should just be wealth taxed but... But there shouldn't be no non-profits this is bull. That's true too! It's just a bunch of bull crap paperwork I can't find anything about this operation, this Transnistria. At least for non-profits they should have to write in detail who the donors are. They don't have to report that? I hate that! Why do they not have to report who gives them money?!

2:37:55 Every person if someone's going to be able to deduct that tax donation If you're a working person and you're getting your 1099 even as your contractor You are reporting with the 1099 who you're getting your money from so the citizenry is generally reporting Yeah, where they're getting their money. Yes the shitter scenery So your point is absolutely correct why aren't these people reporting where they're getting their money from yeah because it's dodgy and shady It's very dodgy very shady I have a little clip here. You know one of my favorite things to track for many years now has been the HPV, the Happopopoloponocomorbavirus. This is vaginal warts really which apparently you can get in your throat if you participate in cunnilingus which is why boys and girls all over the world have been vaccinated with the Gardasil vaccine

2:38:49 And I have tracked this very closely because one of the things that we have seen in the past is... Do you think this could explain a raspy voice of some commentators who sell seeds? Yes, but that's not from Cunnilingus. Wow! You threw me off One of the things that I found so egregious, first of all the vaccine does not really protect you against all strains of vaginal warts. They also go away by themselves yes there can be cervical cancer but there's a very simple test you can do the vinegar test

2:39:29 Pap smear, of course they changed the pap smear not too long ago to a new system which has very high false positives and we've tracked this consistently with many women in my life and in our audience where you get a false positive you start freaking out. They say oh you could be precancerous! You're pre-cancerous! You're pre dead!! And then you go through all these crazy tests and then you do another test, and then nine out of 10 cases it's okay. But you know what? Just so that never happens again why don't you take the first of two Gardasil shots which will only cost your insurance $350. Big scam as far as I'm concerned! Then there are a lot of side effects and things that... You know i don't want to get into all that but this is some evidence that this HPV virus not helpful to a lot of young girls. Very surprised to find out

2:40:22 That Roche now Merck makes the Gardasil Roche is Has been approved by the FDA with their new test which will do away with pap smears in... schmear? Pap smears. It's like something you put on a bagel. It is, actually! It'll deal with pap smears altogether and will be replaced by the Roche HPV test Even though more than 12 000 American women were diagnosed with cervical cancer last year it's still the easiest female cancer to prevent because of two main tests The first is the pap test or Pap smear which detects precancerous cells in the cervix. It's the gold standard of cervical cancer prevention. The pap test is recommended for all women aged 21 to 65 years although the cancer has a tendency to show up in midlife

2:41:14 The second is the HPV or human papillomavirus test which looks for the virus. Almost 99.9% of cervical cancers are caused by HPV If you get an HPV test with PAP, the cells collected during a PAP smear will be tested for HPV in a lab Talk with your doctor whether an HPV test is needed. In some cases, an HPV vaccine may be recommended but keep in mind the pap test and the HPV test only screen for cervical cancer neither tests detects for ovarian uterine or vaginal cancers. Exactly! And by the way they I like to said maybe they may advise me get this shot well here here's the interesting part

2:42:04 Two of our producers were at the ballroom in College Park, Maryland Holiday Inn with this announcement by the FDA. And here's their report. The FDA collaborated with Roche on the clinical trial and provided them with the results that were presented at the hearing to achieve the results. The statistical analysis that took place was not done properly because the samples were not normalized which skewed the clinical trial information in a way that proved the results that were desired by the FDA. The asshats at Roche were so confident as to the outcome of the hearing, they were bragging in the Holiday Inn restaurant dining room they had the whole hearing in the bag because they'd been in bed and in collusion with the FDA all along!

2:42:51 And our two producers overheard all this while they were there. Just imagine these asshats at Roche, we got it in the bag! FDA, we did it... It was all good no problem!" Wow great feet on the ground report. And I've put the entire report which contains a little more information into the show notes with of course names etc removed as they requested but the information is confident These are basically our version of whistleblowers I love that. And of course, only our listeners know any of this. Oh yeah and then i have one more email that'll be it for me something that neither of us really picked up on but of course why would we? But actually you have two things... It's so obvious once um once it was pointed out to me come on

2:43:45 It's just not a good computer day. Come on, I would run a virus check on that machine. Yeah sure from episode 599 or Neil deGrasse Tyson this is the guy who's doing the who's doing the New Cosmos show and science. Yeah, this is a great letter. Did you get this one? All right well I don't know if you did but let me just go back briefly to a small piece of Neil deGrasse Tyson We all know we live in a politically divided country where almost anything is fair game for snipers on both sides But science shouldn't science be immune from politics after all it's called scientific fact for a reason

2:44:24 And yet there are millions of climate deniers, evolution deniers, vaccine deniers out there. Last year in a speech on climate change President Obama summed up the war on science this way... I don't have much patience for anyone who denies that this challenge is real We don't have time for meeting at the flat earth society Many Americans agree with him but many other American see science as an attack An attack on their values or religion Or what they believe to be true Which brings me to my next guest. I am so excited he's here today He may just be the man who can end the war on science At least he has a better chance than you or i have

2:45:05 He's Neil deGrasse Tyson, an astrophysicist and director of the Hayden Planetarium in New York. I keep hearing Assad, an Assad physicist? Now it's really in my brain. Yeah you're getting... You better go to your counselor. Can you imagine a prime time network television show all about science? Pretty amazing! Neil welcome to the program. Thanks for having me. I want to talk all about Cosmos in a moment but first I want to ask you do you think there is a war on science the way that I'm describing and if so how can we broker a peace Our civilization, our civilization is built on the innovations of scientists and technologists and engineers who have shaped everything that we so take for granted today. So some of the science deniers or science haters these are people who are telling you while they're on their mobile phone saying I don't like science, oh yeah GPS just told us to go left yeah okay

2:46:01 So, I don't... so it's time for people to sort of sit back and reassess what role science has actually played in our lives. And note and learn how to embrace that going forward because without it we will just regress back into the cave. You don't talk about the spherical Earth with NASA in it and then say oh now let's give equal time to the flat earthers plus science is not there for you to cherry pick! Here we are into the email received. Adam and John, enjoy your discussion episode 599 of the Neil deGrasse Tyson clip on science and climate deniers I just want to add an observation that you and John may have missed or didn't have time to point out no we missed it The language that Tyson and his interviewer use is religious language Tyson says... excuse me sorry yeah i'm still sick Tyson says science is not there for you to cherry pick It's true whether you believe in it or not

2:46:58 You can decide not to believe in it, but that doesn't change the reality. As a Christian Adam and John I recognize this as faith language particularly used in apologetics. I have heard and read arguments and sermons just like this The Bible is not there for you to cherry-pick It's true whether you believe in it or not I submit that science as a whole, with no distinction between fields of study some of which are more theoretical than not is being positioned as a religion with scientists as the modern day prophets. As technology and science becomes more complicated, so that as the old quotation goes they seem more like magic belief in science looks more like faith. You and I have not done any experiments or studies or seen any scientific results we trust what the researchers tell us and not even that what the media tells us the researchers have found We as a culture of come to believe that the scientists with their many educational degrees in arcane jargon that only the privileged few understand are the truth seekers and truth-tellers

2:47:59 This has to be frustrating to scientists who truly do want to seek truth and who know how scientific inquiries should work, not by consensus or by adhering to belief system but by being open to the possibility of your theories being proven wrong. And I think she's spot on! And this is exactly what is happening and I think people like DeGrasse Tyson know it's happening and they're part of it. This cherry-picking language is it really is equating science with religion. Yeah and in fact of the matter... whoops! You know where that came from? It's because it was in my brain. Maybe you caught it. JC did some research on this, and fact of the matter and matter-of-fact have the same root which was a which was some joke usage because facts do not have matter

2:48:49 And so when you say fact of the matter or matter of fact, it means nothing literally. It means that...it is the opposite what you think it's just a fact of the matter. So I see the fact to the matter that means the opposite of what you're going to say next. It means whatever you're gonna say next is bull! Right Well anyway, the point is that yeah this was a great letter. I thought it was the letter of the month It nailed it! We didn't even think in those terms you can cherry-pick because in many studies there's like this thing does this, this thing does this and now we came along with it and found it does this. It doe that! You know these studies if they're not funded by some corporation with an end result in mind that you better achieve or you don't get your money... If it's a real study you can get all kinds of contradictory information you have to cherry pick certain things. And also GPS

2:49:48 It's not scientific breakthrough and discovery. It is engineering using, you know... Yeah it is technology! ...knowledge. It's technology, it's not science. Then everything is science then I'm a scientist because I am talking... Food Science? Yeah food science yes. The way the proteins act when you heat them up. Then there was this... It's like doing a study, just cooking something to eat This scientist David Ropik, in Scientific American, wrote a piece about the verdict of these scientists in Italy who failed to communicate the earthquake in L'Aquila 2009. So a court in Italy has convicted six scientists

2:50:41 to I think it was six or nine years of prison. Yeah, this is great! Well here's what's great... This...I think he's a professor? Or i'm not sure what he is.. He's saying yes we need to let all science people who deny science or stop communication of science should be penalized and go to jail. And I'm thinking, yes! I totally agree because all of those 97% who are all in when we finally find out that this was a big joke and a big lie this bullcrap that you've made up... You're all gonna go to jail

2:51:20 And you don't have to go to jail, just put you in the stockade. Just put you here on the town square that'll be enough for me." That'd be great. We need to bring back the stockade. I'm already working on a bit how that's gonna come down. Oh tell me? Like just a bit! I have to do the bit. I can't tell you the bit and then you're giving it away. No but its a good bit. It's like...it's an acting thing I'm not in the mood to do. I gotta get my uh...I gotta think about it I only have a couple more things. Wow, we're overdue we gotta stop but okay couple more thing...I have one more thing you got a couple go for your couple. How lucky are you people that we just sit here and don't stop thinking about tomorrow? Time to take a hard break! That's right news coming up we've got some commercials to play and oh by the way my Ferrari has to be picked up at the garage so i'm out of here see ya Obama record on transparency on democracy now but they still vote for the guy

2:52:20 New figures show the Obama administration denied a record number of Freedom of Information Act requests last year, despite pledges of transparency. According to the Associated Press, the White House denied or partially censored 36 percent of FOIA requests. In a record 57 percent of cases, the administration cited grounds of national security. Upon first taking office President Obama had vowed to make his administration quote, The most open and transparent in history. Hillbots! Yeah

2:52:58 Ah, really? And just last but not least or it actually is least this you know the general that was busted for some sexual harassment thing. This is a just an interesting report I just want to make a quick comment on the general gut plea deal for his sexual assault and I didn't realize this was the guys are real sleazoid Military prosecutors have agreed to drop sexual assault charges against Brigadier General Jeffrey Sinclair in return for a guilty plea on lesser offenses. The accuser, an Army captain testified Sinclair twice forced her to perform oral sex during the three-year affair in Afghanistan and threatened to murder her and her family if she told anyone exactly under

2:53:40 After his plea, Sinclair will admit to mistreatment but avoid charges that would have forced him to register as a sex offender if convicted. Heaven forbid! I mean guy pees in the park... Sex offender In Iowa and he's a sex offender for having to take a leak Oh yeah My last one is a kind of an obvious one, but it didn't kind of click until this morning and I'd saw it And I was like oh of course. It's at 99 fists story You know we have 99 fists in this country's 99 fists against the 1 fist if the 99% versus the 1% Here's report number one national battle over inequality

2:54:20 inequality, the rich versus the rest of the population. That's really the clue here what is this all about? This inequality we keep hearing about inequality, the rich versus the poor that 99% versus 1%. Has taken a curious turn in the San Francisco Bay Area where buses carrying high-tech workers have become a symbol of the divide This is PBS obviously and I don't know why they're running the story, but oh yes. I do know why they're running the story again every weekday morning between 730 and 10 dozens of big sleek buses roll down Valencia Street in the heart of San Francisco's traditionally Latino Mission District and other city thoroughfares

2:54:59 When they began rolling six or seven years ago, they were generally praised as an alternative to crowded highways and carbon emissions from cars. But that's not the issue says writer Rebecca Solnit one of the first to charge that the buses were more than a way to get to work They're unmarked and with tinted windows so you don't know who's inside. They're like a cross between a limousine and an armored personnel carrier cruising around the central city. Solnit and others say the buses are symbols of disparity in wealth between new tech workers, and long-time working class residents of neighborhoods like The Mission. And she adds that the influx of techies is gentrifying the city

2:55:43 So this story has been around for a while and we know that a lot of this has been trumped up. There's been activists who are doing it, no doubt an NGO, non-profits, just provocateurs. Just baggery everywhere. Yeah well it wasn't until this morning they figured out why this is happening do you have any idea? Have you a clue? Well, there's a couple of things I can see you going with this. One is that when they bring in the armored personnel in the buses which they do... They won't notice it! Nobody will notice and then cops can run out like crazy so that's always one possibility The second thing which I note here although I'm sure this not what you're gonna talk about Is that you know you're talking about guys having to take the bus to work as the upper class? I don't think so No Okay how fancy the buses taking a bus to work

2:56:33 It's just not like you're living it. You're not living the high life, let's put it that way. But it is being positioned as living the high life, it's the 99% against 1%, and its so obvious why this is being ratcheted up now when I saw spokeshole for the president Dan Pfeiffer on Chip Show. Well look, there is no question this is a tough map for Democrats that's what happens when you win a lot of elections like we did in 2008 but and with the good news is that we have good candidates and most importantly were on the right side of the issue that matters most to debt most of the public jobs in economy Here's what the president is going to do. He is going to lay out the terms of the debate in this election, it's a choice between Democrats who support an agenda for opportunity for all and Republicans who support an agenda for opportunity for a few. There it is! 1% Republicans who support an agenda only for the few, the rich. They're the one percent

2:57:27 That's it? That's the whole... Everybody in that bus, I guarantee if you took a poll they're all Democrats. I know but that's not important No i know It's not important because this is all positioning and this what the democrats have been doing very well This is what the guns thing is about Is to have women never ever vote for republicans again What was the other one we had another one Yeah we have two or three of them We should put it on a wall Yeah we should write something down from time-to-time Once in awhile Nice newsletter by the way Keep that coming Let's see, for Sunday I will be talking about the single resolution mechanism that was just signed in Euro Gitmo nation land. Which is essentially how the banks will be bailed out with your savings That's why they call it something like single resolution mechanisms so you go like whatever Whatever Well let me see... well that's the main one i'm working on We've got some common core stuff obviously

2:58:27 and, um... No I'd be excited to talk to you again John. It's always fun! I think there'll be some more action in the uh... Ukraine? I suspect. And also we're very negligent about Venezuela Oh yeah. Let me check Fox News. For this investigation chef. Catherine one of the possibilities they've told us is that one of these objects is a cargo container There ya go let's check CNN The probability that it is the aircraft. There you go! Ha ha, nailed it again! A double hit. Ladies and gentlemen if that doesn't prove to you that The No Agenda Show is what you should be listening too... And supporting at Dvorak dot org slash NA nothing will That is horrible We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on NO AGENDA Get out there whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping who

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