Episode 597 · Thursday, 6 March 2014

Prison Prep

Corporate media transparency vanishes as Samsung buys the Oscars, RT anchors stage televised resignations, and the battle for Ukraine shifts from Kiev snipers to global gas exports.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 597

About this episode

Samsung reportedly paid $20 million for product integration during the 2014 Academy Awards, including the viral selfie taken by Ellen DeGeneres on a Galaxy Note 3. This erosion of the editorial divide highlights a growing trend of native advertising where corporate interests dictate media programming. The hosts contrast this corporate model with their listener-supported framework while mocking DeGeneres for tweeting backstage photos from an iPhone despite her Samsung sponsorship.

RT anchors Abby Martin and Liz Wahl made headlines with on-air protests and resignations regarding Russia's military occupation of Crimea. Wahl appeared on CNN with Anderson Cooper immediately following her departure, sparking theories of a coordinated State Department operation. Meanwhile, leaked audio between EU official Catherine Ashton and Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet suggests snipers in Kiev may have targeted both police and protesters. Professor Stephen Cohen argues that 20 years of NATO expansion toward Russian borders triggered the current military confrontation, while the U.S. Department of Energy begins issuing natural gas export permits to counter Gazprom's influence.

Matthew McConaughey caused a stir in Hollywood by thanking God during his Best Actor acceptance speech, a moment the hosts suggest made the industry audience visibly uncomfortable. John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry also find time to investigate a skunk infestation in Austin and review David Lynch's surrealist classic Eraserhead. The episode concludes with a look at the FDA approval of the powerful opioid Zohydro and the British royal family's depleted repair funds for Buckingham Palace.


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CHAPTER 01 / 56 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 597 Introduction, Show 600 Countdown

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 597 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They calculate the timeline for their upcoming 600th episode, noting it coincides with the Ides of March and their six-week production cycle.

adam curry· john c dvorak· gitmo nation· fema region 6· show 600· ides of march

00:00 She should have rabies. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. It's Thursday March 6 2014 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 5-9 or 7 This is no agenda! Enjoying Enjoying dynamic superfoods here in FEMA Region 6 at the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're three shows away from show 600 The Magic Number I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah, I almost forgot about that. Yeah you're forgetting Well not really... well then right off the bat what date is this magic 600 show supposed to fall on? Well if this is 597 so the next shows 598 then 599 and then boom! 600 Right so that's uh Sunday was it Thursday the something Is it

00:54 Yeah, but today's Thursday so it'd be a Sunday because this is 5 9 what 7? Yes. This is okay then five nine eight is Sunday five nine nine is Thursday five six or six o'clock Which day will that be? That's why I asked you your the year they don't have a calendar open you maintain all that stuff in your drawer I don't maintain it in the drawer. I have a, I use the calendar okay today is the 13th is the uh It's the 16th of March The Ides of March one day after And that will also be the six week cycle I presume Yeah! Oh man Six week cycle on show 600 Now you're talking So that's coming up too so we can look forward to some phony baloney event to take place Speaking of phony baloney events

CHAPTER 02 / 56 Discussion

Gitmo Nation National Anthem, John Dvorak Note Retrieval

John Dvorak briefly leaves the recording to retrieve his notes from downstairs. During the transition, Adam Curry plays the "Gitmo Nation National Anthem," a satirical song describing listeners as "happy and distracted slaves" and "human resources."

national anthem· gitmo nation· human resources· slaves· notes

01:44 You gonna talk about the Ukraine? No, let's talk about the Oscars. Oh! Wow damn it What?! I left my notes downstairs And i even asked you in the pre-stream if you wanted to go get them real quick and then ill do something for myself Yeah, do some for yourself. It'll only take me a second. Okay let me see what I can do for myself while we're waiting for John to go do that in a moment Well you know what? We can do something we haven't done in a long time While we have everybody paying attention Let's do our national anthem! Ladies and gentlemen please rise For your Gitmo Nation National Anthem And of course you may sing along In the morning gift

02:23 Oh nation, we are all charged up to be human resources and servants in all lands and all ships at sea. From the east to west down under to the lowlands and beyond We are happy and distracted slaves. We're our kid donations all. Alright! Perfect, people always asking to hear that Yeah that was actually a good move it's just enough time for me to run downstairs and get something It's a small house apparently Well not if you're running

CHAPTER 03 / 56 Discussion

Oscars 2014 Review, Jim Carrey and Kim Novak

The hosts critique the 2014 Academy Awards, focusing on Jim Carrey's appearance and his imitation of Bruce Dern. They discuss the aging of actress Kim Novak, comparing her appearance in Hitchcock's Vertigo to her current look following plastic surgery.

oscars· jim carrey· bruce dern· kim novak· vertigo· plastic surgery

03:10 Okay, not that small all right since you ran to get your notes Why don't you start reading off your notes first and I can jump in later? Yes one. I don't think now that I remember the the Oscars ever seeing it could be wrong But I don't remember seeing Jim Carrey ever being allowed on stage This was something new. Indeed he was back and it was weird because... ...he only got to intro a movie about family. There were a bunch of those! Yeah, yeah. Guy comes out and says hey everybody there's a bunch of movies that came out this year bye I think they were going for full on celebrity power regardless just whoever we can get throw him on stage So Carrie did a really good Bruce Dern imitation

03:54 And that was it. Yeah, but I thought that he well, I don't need a whole review of I don't like did I? Don't need a whole review of the Oscars. I mean a couple things everyone is I noted okay Kim Novak. Oh my goodness. Oh man, I don't know people should look her up and see what a beautiful woman she was and what plastic surgery can do to you now she was in Vertigo wasn't Hitchcock's vertigo? I think she was in a whole slew of movies yeah, but that means that's why I Wish he was like one of the most beautiful women in the world Now she looks like a Muppet Versace Donatello Versace has the same all right all right enough with the mainstream jokes come on move on to something I know but

CHAPTER 04 / 56 Discussion

Samsung Native Advertising, Ellen DeGeneres Oscar Selfie

Samsung reportedly paid $20 million for advertising and integration during the Oscars, including the viral selfie taken by Ellen DeGeneres on a Galaxy Note 3. The discussion highlights the erosion of the "church and state" divide between editorial content and paid advertising in modern media.

samsung· native advertising· ellen degeneres· galaxy note 3· product placement· oscars

04:44 This is everyone's talking about this. Tell me something that I don't you sent out a really good newsletter, which was all about the obvious native advertising in the Oscars disgusting and then I found disgusting all the coverage of it, which was worse, which is in itself native advertising except I don't know whether they're paid or not and this is a really big problem if you don't know what we're talking about. You I'm sure you noted and it wasn't just these so-called selfie The Ellen was using the Samsung Galaxy, I don't know what it was a note. I guess three or something. And it was and I think from what I the research I got Samsung paid about 20 million dollars for the whole package including the ads and the integration into the programming

05:34 Right, this is the latest thing they're doing. They're buying ads to make it you know... It actually makes it worse. It makes more obvious doesn't it? I know they don't get it! In the olden days when they had a church and state thing which I talk a little bit about in their newsletter You used be in a magazine and they didn't let you talk to the advertising guys And if the advertising guys showed up with some idea Yeah You had to be thrown out The idea was always the same Can you write about these guys But you would write feature stories coincidentally about something and then not all the time but once in a while because the wells for the advertising was never known by editorial. Occasionally, it was very rare but it did happen and had been enough that you get a lot of letters on it and the public groused occasionally to write an article about HP and an HP ad would coincidently show up in the article. Yeah I'm sure the sales guys had nothing to do with that

06:33 No, they didn't. Well I mean if they did they're pretty cool but... Let me interject because... Wait let me finish this because the public would be outraged! Outraged! There is no outrage! No! Zero outrage in fact everyone loved it Yeah. Everyone was, oh this is great! Look at this picture it's awesome it's retweeted... This is really nothing new in 1980 May I'm sorry may was 1990 the summer of 1990 MTV had a problem they needed to get Budweiser to advertise on the network think I've told this story before no and they couldn't figure out how to get Budweiser and they asked me to help them pitch an idea

CHAPTER 05 / 56 Discussion

MTV Spring Break History, Product Placement Evolution

Adam Curry recounts the 1990 creation of MTV Spring Break as a vehicle for Budweiser advertising, featuring the mascot Spuds MacKenzie. The conversation shifts to the history of Apple product placement in television, noting that the company historically loaned equipment to celebrities rather than paying for placement.

mtv· spring break· budweiser· spuds mckenzie· apple· steve jobs

07:24 And the idea was, instead of creating some programming that Budweiser would want to sponsor... ...they went to where Budweiser was already naturally and that was Spring Break. That is the entire reason for the creation of Spring Break on MTV! Now, that is not native advertising per se That's more product placement. However, if you go back to those early days and I had to do some of this...I think it was South Padre Island? Funny, I live in Texas now Do you remember Spuds McKenzie that fucking dog? Bull Terrier! Yes we had the top 20 countdown with spuds next to me

08:11 I don't want to get off the topic by death, just throw a quick anecdote in. I'm getting off the freeway in San Francisco and there's a homeless guy with his sign. I was going to stop but it was green light so I had to drive. He had one of these kinds of dogs with the perfect black round around one eye! Exactly The dog... this homeless guy would go to a modeling agency he'd make more money than standing up on the highway. So this is not new, but for MTV at the time you know cable no one knew what to do and it was kind of innovative at the time. And then that kind of slipped away but product placement is a huge business already and you see cars showing up... The Apple computer in most sitcoms

09:02 It's cop shows. Well, from what I understand until recently it like you know after Steve died Apple was not paying for that Most of the Apple products you would see on programming before Steve Jobs died was never paid for. It was not part of their market. I find that hard to believe since they had a department... They had a department that would give celebrities Apple computers, but actually they asked for it back after like six years an Apple 2 and I gave it back silly me That's dumb. Yeah, no they had a they had a For inventory reasons what was that guy's name Jim? Oh Daniel Paul that was his name Daniel Paul I'm sure he's doing he's not at Apple anymore But that was his entire gig was to give celebrities the Apple computers loan them to them anyway but you know now it's really become a part of the of the programming itself and

CHAPTER 06 / 56 Discussion

Media Transparency, Ellen DeGeneres iPhone Usage

The hosts contrast their listener-supported model with corporate media, where advertisers dictate programming. They mock Ellen DeGeneres for tweeting backstage Oscar photos from an iPhone despite being paid to promote Samsung devices during the telecast.

transparency· podcasting· ellen degeneres· samsung· iphone· twitter

10:03 and it's being dictated by the advertisers. And that is where it moves into this new phase, and you just don't know anymore if this coverage is real or if its just coincidental So for instance on our show we'll talk about products that we like! It's not advertising, it's information. Its no different from us playing a clip from somewhere telling what our opinion is or deconstructing something Right. Because you know that we're not getting paid because if we were getting paid believe me wouldn't be doing the stupid podcast and I have a nice car yeah, but used cars And note we have to buy... Although now looking back on it is probably the best thing to do anyway Yeah but note i have to buy them cause I can't even get a car loan The guy that... It's called cash We can't lease this to you Must be a rich drug dealer

10:56 Exactly. Now, none of this was to be expected I thought it was pretty funny and I thought it was interesting to watch how came together and of course by now you people probably read that the backstage pictures that Ellen was tweeting of her and Brad Pitt of course they show up on on the tweeters as sent from my iPhone which someone's going to get a memo about Oops. I forgot that part, yeah you're right. That's hilarious. We don't talk about that anymore. Quiet! Supposedly in one article they had to actually train her... How to use it? Yeah how do you use it? To use it even though it seems to me that the problem with training or how to use it is actually a problem for Apple who was suing Samsung over look and feel

CHAPTER 07 / 56 Discussion

Native Advertising in Journalism, European Advertising Laws

Major publications like The New York Times and Forbes now allow advertisers to post content directly into their management systems. The hosts discuss European laws that require distinct audio cues or "pingles" to identify advertisements on the radio, contrasting this with the increasingly opaque "sponsored content" in the U.S.

new york times· forbes· mashable· sponsored content· european union· advertorial

11:47 Yeah, because it's very complicated. I noticed two other things that would want to bring up because we know the native advertising stuff is completely bogative and what makes it worse online is that publications, the New York Times, the LA Times... Mashable. Mashable, Forbes, BuzzFeed, Huffington Post, every... You know the New York Times and Forbes let's just take those two by themselves they are actually allowing and this is the part that's egregious allowing the advertisers themselves to hire their own people maybe they get them from some pool of talent that you know isn't publication approved

12:34 then they create an article and then they get to have access right into their content management system, and post it. So there's absolutely no... I think the only thing that happens is you create the article, you post it, and then a bill shows up! It was that simple! And of course, it's disclaimed as sometimes we'll say sponsored content, sometimes it will say something like Hat tip to our sponsors. Hat tip to Samsung, it's becoming very opaque. They would like to get rid of that part too Do you know that in Europe certainly in the Netherlands I know Germany

13:18 It may be an EU wide advertising law, I'm not quite sure. Certainly on the radio you have to have an identifiable... well we call it a pingle but some kind of music hit that's identifiable as advertising when advertising is being played before and after the ad So you can do... let me see if I can do an example. Let's pretend we're on the radio here and now in the Netherlands, of course where we're speaking Dutch but people could hear it as if were speaking English this is through our translation machine And its time for a delicious Coca-Cola John would you like one? Doesn't that taste really good? Adam! You know what? I was just thinking the same thing

14:10 See now that would be kind of fair because now you heard the ID thing, you know that it was an ad. You may get used to it over time but at least we've identified it was an advertisement so maybe something like that should be necessary? Well they were...they used to be and in the olden days there used to be a thing across-the-top that said advertisement if it was this sort of content and in fact magazines and newspapers like The New York Times Had advertorial high-end they wouldn't even take these sorts of ads even though they were there was the rules were simple generally speaking It was this yeah, it had to clearly say it was an advertisement across the top didn't have that be big giant letters You just have to say it across the top usually. There's like a line This is advertising in line and then the typeface and layout had to be slightly different Yeah you had they either have a different font

15:03 or you had to have a different layout. You couldn't use the same exact font and layout of the newspaper, or the magazine. Right right right Well that's gone! That part... Yeah That's okay It is exactly the same Somebody came along at bean counter and says Why do we have these restrictions? There's no law This is ridiculous this is costing us money Well it doesn't matter because people either really love it Or they'll come over and listen to what we have to say from time-to-time Because its going to get annoying We have sponsor content sponsored by the listeners and they don't care what we say as long as it's interesting to them. So here's the two things I noticed Matthew McConaughey he wins the Oscar for best actor

CHAPTER 08 / 56 Discussion

Matthew McConaughey Oscar Speech, Religious Reactions

Matthew McConaughey's Best Actor acceptance speech caused a stir when he thanked God, which the hosts perceive as making the Hollywood audience uncomfortable. They discuss McConaughey's roots in Austin, Texas, and the industry's reaction to his overt religious references.

matthew mcconaughey· god· oscars· best actor· texas· religion

15:56 And everyone's like, yeah! Yeah! Yeah! And all of a sudden he says I'd like to thank God. And everyone is like what? Oh no we forgot he's from Texas oh no oh he might be a Republican Did you it was like it went to a slow clap all of a sudden everyone? Oh, no What science science science oh No, we can't have God now. I think he is referring to a universal power More that's what my feeling. I don't know him personally

16:40 But it doesn't even matter. It was, I thought it was the funniest thing ever everyone was in shock Oh crap We got some crazy religious Republican on stage Get off our stage you! He's from Austin Yeah I heard that Go over to his place and check him out and say hi I don't think he has a place here anymore From there? He is from here yeah I just, I found that to be so wonderful to see that happen and you just notice. You could just see people going oh man... And he kept coming back to it yeah God Oh cue the music get him off the stage! Get him off the stage! You know what bothers me about The Oscars more than anything is that early awards at the very beginning for the crappiest things nobody cares about best makeup

CHAPTER 09 / 56 Discussion

MKUltra Symbolism, Pink's Wizard of Oz Performance

The hosts suggest that Pink's performance of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" at the Oscars contained MKUltra "Monarch" programming triggers. They link the use of Wizard of Oz symbolism to government mind control theories and mention similar imagery appearing in coverage of the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting.

mkultra· pink· wizard of oz· mind control· monarch program· sandy hook

17:31 The person comes out and they're allowed to blab forever as long as they want. And then they start to lose time, and by the time you get to the good awards, people have to get 46 seconds and you gotta hurry up. Yeah, they're rushing them off stage! In fact I missed the last couple of awards because the DVR ran out of time. Oh really? It doesn't automatically adjust if it goes over time? Sometimes it does, but it depends on what signal it gets from the station You know, there's a bunch of codes and flags and all this stuff that comes over but when it was when there's no way of telling it to keep going It just stops. Now here's the thing that I was very worried about And I think we're already seeing the results of this telecast Those of you who follow my thinking Will probably notice that immediately that we had a huge event taking place during this particular Oscars telecast which I find to be disconcerting

18:26 We had an activation of perhaps hundreds, thousands maybe hundreds of thousands of MK Ultra patients the minute Pink came on stage. Now in case you didn't know the MKUltra a real mind control program from the US government has as one of its activation methods The Wizard of Oz Specifically this song somewhere over the rainbow Yeah, and you can look this up and you'll see it. It's it's the monarch program specifically of Mk Ultra so also big Monarch butterflies are often

19:07 Use an association both of these by the way showed up with the Sandy Hook kids when they drop by the ABC Studios I'm I think that what we saw with People like Abby Martin and the Wall chick. I think that might have been activation from the Rainbow song on the Oscars, everyone went nutty! It's possible...I'm not gonna go there because it is kind of crazy but Abby Martin and Liz Wall quitting within 24 hours or 48 hours of each other. Well she didn't quit. She just made a fuss and she should be fired. That's the one you wanted right?

CHAPTER 10 / 56 Discussion

Abby Martin RT Resignation, Ukraine Coverage Criticism

RT anchor Abby Martin went off-script to condemn Russia's military occupation of Crimea, claiming editorial independence. The hosts analyze her delivery, suggesting she was reading from a teleprompter despite claiming to speak "from the heart," and question the timing of her statement.

abby martin· rt· russia today· ukraine· crimea· military intervention

20:00 It's gets there. I thought it was pretty good. I think it's perfect John Fletcher, thank you The Liz wall thing was like okay This is this is just plain weird for one thing that the RT was not really slant doing much in a way of like covering to you the situation Ukraine or in Ukraine. I'll tell you what, why don't we step back? Not everybody who listens to this show has heard everything um why don't we start briefly with Abby Martin and just play her little bit because i found this to be hilarious by the way this huff and rant that all of a sudden got all this attention so into it and uh and by the way this happens at the exact same moment President Obama presented his budget

20:56 which I think is convenient or coincidental at best. Like, hey yeah here's my budget... Oh look at Abby Martin! That was Jeffrey Summers associate professor of political economy at the University of Wisconsin Before we wrap up the show i wanted to say something from my heart about the ongoing political crisis. I want to say it from my heart It's really from The Prompter but it's from my heart She was reading it from The Prompter. There's no doubt about this From My Heart. Crisis in Ukraine and Russia's military occupation of Crimea Just because I work here for RT doesn't mean that I don't have editorial independence. And, I can't stress enough how strongly I am against any state intervention in a sovereign nation's affairs." What does that even mean? How strongly I am? Does she...does she mean to say how strongly against I am or I'm against...? Play it again! No, she messed it up. She misread the prompter. Before we wrap up the show, I wanted to say something from my heart about the ongoing political crisis in Ukraine and Russia's military occupation of Crimea

21:53 Just because I work here for RT doesn't mean that I don't have editorial independence. And, I can't stress enough how strongly I am against any state intervention in a sovereign nation's affairs. How strongly I feel... She was reading from the prompter! You right yeah, yeah. Yeah what Russia did is wrong? I admittedly don't know as much as I should about you What does she say she doesn't know anything Yes, well rush it did is wrong. I don't know anything about it that correct you are awesome. Yeah speaking truth to power John About time I did that

22:31 Truth to power, people. But what I do know is that military intervention... I don't know much about nothing but what i do know... ...is never the answer and I will not sit here and apologize or defend military aggression furthermore the coverage I've seen of Ukraine has been truly disappointing from all sides of the media spectrum and rife with disinformation Above all my life this disinformation It's right like that from the heart. I don't talk like that from the heart. It's just Information we talking about just it's all disinformation well That is true out to be Ukrainian people who are now what's new you do Ukraine? In the middle of a global power chess game They're the real losers here

23:19 All we can do now is hope for a peaceful outcome, for terrible situation. Terrible! And prevent another full-blown cold war between multiple superpowers So when this happens like this and I've thought quite a bit and then i have a bigger problem with the miss Liz Wall who apparently her only other gig was at CNN and I guess she was a producer it's not like she... She's just graduated from college Yeah in Virginia I might add so yeah she went to Virginia some Virginia school So, okay. This is... that's why I said MKUltra Why else are these chicks doing this? They're like, oh! Something... Oh, I have to talk from the heart It's a... I'm speaking truth to power First of all who do they think they are? They're talking heads on a small very kind of minimal operation Well they are the disinformation That's what obvious Yeah

CHAPTER 11 / 56 Discussion

Liz Wahl RT Resignation, On-Air Protest

RT anchor Liz Wahl resigned on-air, citing her family's history as refugees from the Soviet Union and her inability to work for a network that "white-washes" the actions of Vladimir Putin. The hosts mock her pronunciation and question her motivations for joining a state-funded network in the first place.

liz wahl· rt· resignation· putin· propaganda· hungarian revolution

24:16 Because who gives a crap rest well, I was very impressed Twitters went crazy Yes speaking truth to power Now here let's do the Liz wall thing. Yeah, I thought that was much more interesting Mainly because of what happened after her little spiel last night our teammate international headlines and one of our anchors went on the record and said Russian intervention in Crimea is wrong She didn't actually say that but listen to this girl's She didn't say that but listen to this girl speech patterns a very interesting and she's listed as a producer I don't have you ever seen her on air ever

24:56 Yeah, no I see her all the time. Oh okay... She's the main anchor! Oh okay oh and by the way the new one that took over? A complete goofball. It's like no good. And indeed as a reporter on this network i face many ethical and moral challenges especially me personally coming from a family Listen if you're working at this outfit of this RT outfit, which has a studio in DC. They might have a Skype booth in New York and a lot of producers in Moscow and someone comes along and says hey what are you making at that outfit? And believe me if these girls are making more than $100,000 a year for doing this... What?! Are you nuts! You're not even getting close to that I think they're making 100 No Is he making less than 100? Alright so all you have to do is come along say listen

25:47 I got you MSNBC or this is gonna be something good maybe, maybe this girl can go back to CNN where she came from. That's not hard to get because and first of all it's true obviously we know RT isn't propaganda but for this all of a sudden happened... How would you go to RT in the first place if you didn't know your taking part in a propagandistic operation? Yeah and I think Abby should resign she didn't get the right deal you see yeah she didn't get a deal Oh, Abby. I'm sure she's getting nothing She got no deal she didn't she did it all wrong this girl that right whose grandparents my grandparents came here as refugees During the Hungarian Revolution ironically to escape the Soviet forces I have family on the opposite side on my mother's side That sees the daily grind of poverty and I'm very lucky

26:41 to have grown up here in the United States. I'm the daughter of a veteran, my partner is a physician." At this point i'm like oh at least she's a lesbian that's kind of hot but no! "...at a military base where he sees every day the first-hand accounts of the ultimate prices that people pay..." What does this have to do with anything? I really didn't understand this part about my partner is the doctor and sees the ultimate price. So you see dead people, that's the ultimate price? You know, I was kind of befuddled by this myself. She...I think she was trying to...and I hate to use this term in it

27:21 sent in this manner with her trying to paint a picture that she lives, there's life that you know she is part of the bigger thing and these things go on. And she is trying give you sense that there is rationale for what she about to do. For this country and that is why personally I cannot be part of network funded by the Russian government that white washes the actions of Putin Putin I love that. That's so sexy she says she says actions of Putin No, she says pulling he's like kitten no She does not pronounce the T. She just pooing like pooping play it again and listen for the wind pooling that white washes the actions of Putin

CHAPTER 12 / 56 Discussion

Anderson Cooper Interview, Liz Wahl Rigged Resignation Theory

Immediately following her resignation, Liz Wahl appeared on CNN with Anderson Cooper while still wearing her RT outfit and appearing to use the same studio background. The hosts argue the entire event was a "Wag the Dog" style setup coordinated between the networks and the State Department.

anderson cooper· cnn· liz wahl· rt· wag the dog· green screen

28:15 Poo-ing! Yeah, yes. Poo-ing. He's poo-in'. Poo-in'! POO-TING! Poo-in' I'm proud to be an American and believe in disseminating the truth And that is why after this newscast...I am resigning Speaking truth to power Outstanding okay so here's where it all fell apart for me So this part of my...okay i get it But then she..the first interview she does is with Anderson Pooper. Now, Pooper is in Crimea now you know that when something's set up you know Pooper is on the scene we've got boots on the pooper on the ground do you remember it was Tahir Square? The first time around there no he's always there when it's an operation when it's an operation yeah but only when it's an Op

29:09 He didn't go to Tahrir Square the second or the third time. He wasn't on the Euromaidan, but he was nowhere to be found. He's not in the protests in France... He is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in assets for CNN! Well maybe even tens of thousands of dollars! So then he gets Liz Wall on now here's a thing that bothered me she it's a split screen and she's wearing And the background, the green screen it's the same shot. It has the RT background still rotating This confused me very much and I'm still not sure why You're telling me she quits on the air and RT says yeah you can use our studio to do a interview with Pooper no problem! Just keep those clothes on don't move The lighting is perfect So that...it was like what? How can that..that makes no sense Yeah they either had to do it before

30:10 She quit. Yeah, but it was in the art- It was on the RT set so they would have known there's no way this was This is not a Skype interview she was in the studio with the RT background Yes of course it's a fake So here's parts of this interview. Here she is with Poop, we're talking about the Putin perspective. And what's clear is what's happening right now amid this crisis is that RT is not about the truth it's about promoting a Poo-inist agenda and I can... A poo-inist? A pooh-inistic agenda! This girl is, I think she's a presidential model in the MKUltra program

30:51 Because she has a little speech thingy going on. Putinist agenda. RT is not about the truth, it's about promoting a Putinist agenda and I can tell you first hand its also about bashing America and uh...I kinda cited some of my background where I came from and why I am proud to be an American She's a Filipino. It's like a whole mix of stuff, she looks more Filipino than anything. Yeah no she is the multiculti girl of the future In recent days I've been suffering from a lot of cognitive dissonance Cognitive diss-suffering from cognitive dissonance? Interesting! And felt that i could no longer work here and go on television and tell the American people that this is what's happening and have it pose as news

CHAPTER 13 / 56 Discussion

Media Coordination, Liz Wahl Social Media Reaction

The hosts analyze the speed at which Liz Wahl moved from her RT resignation to a CNN interview, suggesting the booking was pre-arranged. They critique her comments about finding comfort in social media as evidence of psychological operations or "MKUltra" influence.

cnn· twitter· social media· mkultra· propaganda· booking

31:38 Something I don't know This is one. This is wag the dog John I think this is so much bigger than we realize and the giveaway was her in the same clothes on The same set with the same lighting doing this interview with Anderson Cooper catch it's it's it's why the dog? The whole thing is a setup. Yeah, listen just want to ask what oh this is fine now they bring in who's also there with With pooper in Crimea what's the girls into the woman's name she's that um Oh, the short blonde hair. She's some expert in something. I know. Listen, I just want to ask... I forgot anyways so listen this is where the MK ultra presidential model starts to speak and answer questions What is happening right now with you? Have there been repercussions

32:24 And how is RT going to explain this? Because there was a previous woman who... Previous woman. ...said some things about the conflict, Abby Martin. Yes thank you Anderson for prompting me I'd forgotten. And RT said look all our anchors can express their views freely have you had any reaction from the management? Well seeing as i'm sitting in the same set with the same background the same lighting and same outfit no everything's peachy keen! Well, it's all happening very quickly. This happened just a couple hours ago I haven't seen the official response I kind of saw on Twitter before I went on today that they said that I'm doing this as for personal gain which is couldn't be farther from the truth actually hesitated to speak on this for awhile for fear of repercussion. What? They're going to beat you up

33:19 What does that mean? I was afraid of repercussions. I was afraid, uh so i don't know if how they intend to retaliate against me or what actions are going to be taken against me. I can say that it's comforting that on social media I've gotten an explosive response really encouraging. She can't say her T's. That's why they had to get rid of her No, it's RT. Welcome to RE- no! It's R T, the tea, tea... welcome to RE. NO! It's Tea! She can't say tea! A kitten? Putin! Putin! People appreciating me coming forward with this so that's been comforting for me in terms of- Social media was SO comforting if that's not an MKUltra then I don't know what is

34:08 I was so comfortable at my all my Twitter and Facebook friends. They're all like me Yes, I'm so calm feel so comforted So comforted by this And now she's gonna explain the sit the sitch on the ground there Americans who work there in RT kind of bills itself as questioning authority which is Is clearly their marketing strategy but it's no oh yes Okay management are they Russian? Management is Russian, yes. Middle management they are American and their role is to make sure it's kind of part of that censorship rule to make sure we're in line to make sure ultimately the narrative that

34:53 The Russian, you know the guys calling the shots ultimately were based in Moscow. And this doesn't happen on ABC. Putin! The Russian government they kind of make sure that the narrative is delivered. The narrative is delivered. Wow really? This has been a big surprise. Is delivered...in one way or another. Somewhere I found that the whole thing to be disturbing and it is clearly a setup from, it's so obvious. You do not you know you're in the CNN studio maybe? You've got your jeans on she still has the red dress on! So this is wag the dog. This is wag yeah it's Wag The Dog. And within a couple hours she even admitted that

35:53 It wasn't as though so here you go. You're on nobody's watching this network by the way except We're watching and a bunch of 9-eleven truthers yeah, there's a bunch There's people that watch but they're like us Yeah And then even our listeners wouldn't watch this stuff now it's unwatchable most of its unwatchable we got a bunch of experts on Skype for 15 minutes for a segment ah and So she quits and then within a couple of hours, she said right there just quit a couple hours ago. She's on CNN? You know the booking process for these shows? Yeah once in awhile you get a guy hey we've got breaking news and we'd like to get you on the next segment can are you available sometimes that does happen but I don't know that anyone has her phone number

CHAPTER 14 / 56 Discussion

Ron Paul RT Interview, Neo-Nazi Narrative in Ukraine

Liz Wahl claimed RT censored her interview with Ron Paul regarding U.S. intervention in Ukraine. She also criticized the network for portraying the Ukrainian opposition as having Neo-Nazi elements, a narrative the hosts note is a central point of contention between Russian and Western media.

ron paul· rt· ukraine· neo-nazi· vladimir putin· censorship

36:43 No, they didn't need it. They had to call his studio! I think it's the same studio Could be possible that RT is shot out of CNN studios by any chance? It would look like it Whatever the case this was rigged Actually this is the first clip in a segment I don't know why moved into fifth there must be reason Today for example I had an interview with Ron Paul Oh yeah this good now she gonna talk about why she did and how the truth is censored from RT. By the way, Ron Paul's on RT constantly Yeah! The only question that I asked or as many questions I asked about the Russian intervention you know he has a very anti-intervention approach i ask him in the wake of escalation by the russian military how long um...you know how should we respond to this? How should the US respond to this

37:38 and um... Sounds like you asked a really dumb question, long and drawn out that made no sense. That question was cut out of the interview. Oh no! There was another segment today uh it was She's looking through her notes right now she shuffling through the notes on her desk at the RT set a news package from one of our correspondents that painted the opposition over there in the Ukraine as... Now she's even saying THE Ukraine, she so flusters. She forgot to say Ukraine. ...having neo-nazi elements and I think that's very dangerous when you have

38:20 a new government instability over there and I'm sure that there are in fact neo-nazi elements but to portray the entire opposition as being part of this right wing extremist group is going along with the narrative that Vladimir Putin wants to go along with. Now, this is very important because...and I love when this happens and I thank God I really do and i thank my wife, not sure who's more powerful that I have the opportunity to spend days on end watching all this crap and then God allows these things to connect in my head. She just said... All right! All right! All right! Screw with him! What she just said

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Christiane Amanpour vs Stephen Cohen, Ukraine Radicalism

CNN's Christiane Amanpour argued with Professor Stephen Cohen over the presence of fascists and anti-Semites in the Ukrainian opposition. The hosts suggest Amanpour was "activated" to suppress reports of radical elements within the pro-European movement in Ukraine.

christiane amanpour· stephen cohen· cnn· anti-semitism· fascists· ukraine

39:13 is it's very dangerous to call the opposition neo-nazis and anti-semites. She made a big deal about this being a very huge problem that this is being broadcast funny enough I'm watching Brolf and Kristiana Anampur who is completely all in on whatever program she's being paid for with some other douche knuckle. And the following happens... An excellent conversation, Professor Cohen. Kristiana Anampur thanks very much and on that last point you heard Vitaly Churkin the Russian ambassador to the UN Security Council saying earlier today that at fault for all of this are what he called

39:53 fascists and anti-semites in ukraine right now activate you've got to be really careful putting that across as a as a fact that's what he told me he may have done, but that is the russian position. He may have done... That was what I was pointing out Are you saying that the entire pro european, Ukrainians are anti semites? Let me tell you there's a couple things you do and you don't do in the business I don't care who you are You DO NOT Argue with broth first of all you just don't why would you yeah, and he's in the middle box You're right. She was activated she Activated to say the same thing the message is clear The message is

40:37 The opposition are not anti-Semites and radicals, they are not neo Nazis. Please let all the public know you must tell them somewhere. That is what the Russians say. I'm only saying what Vitaly Churkin said. He's making a big deal about it! And I was just pointing out that a Russian official at the United Nations today said who is responsible for all of this fascist and anti Semite in Ukraine? Am I saying that? No, I am not Now he's gonna try and explain the news business to us. This is really, this is insane! This is what this says to me...

CHAPTER 16 / 56 Discussion

Leaked Ashton-Paet Call, Maidan Sniper Allegations

A leaked phone call between EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet suggests that snipers in Kiev may have been hired by the new Ukrainian coalition rather than the Yanukovych regime. The call indicates that the same snipers were killing both police and protesters.

catherine ashton· urmas paet· snipers· maidan· estonia· leaked call

41:14 is that it's apparently a bunch of Nazis and fascists and anti-semites Yes! That have taken over the place. Because why else would you make such a fuss about all this? Well, witness the call between the high representative Norchin monster having baroness Ashton And the Estonian foreign minister Pejt Got this I got this whole call, but I'll jump right to the goodies here By the way this call which is has somehow was released through tradecraft. Yeah, I have to say kidding I love it because this time they They didn't just have the call, they ISOed it. They have left and right channels! So they've got Ashton on the left channel... Oh that's sweet It is beautiful That's tradecraft right there ladies and gentlemen They even ISO'd it for us so we could We can have our own conversation Right! We could put our own questions in if we wanted But here's a relevant passage And civil society In fact what was quite disturbing The same Olga told that well all the evidence shows

42:16 the people who were killed by snipers from both sides among policemen and then people from the streets that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides. Well, yeah... So that's... Yeah we know. If you couldn't understand what he said is people are now figuring out that the new opposition had snipers killing people on both sides. Yeah, they tried to start a riot. You shoot a cop then you shoot one of the good guys... Well they shot all the Berkut which is the riot police

42:55 in the head like sniper shots of the had these guys just went down like little tin soldiers and here's bearish asin going yeah well yeah yeah but what but get both of them shows uh... at a peak who were killed by snipers from both sides among policemen and people from the streets that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides. So that, and then she also showed me some photos she said that has medical doctor or she can you know say that it is the same handwriting, their same type of bullets and it's really disturbing that now there new

43:32 new coalition that they don't want to investigate. So, besides Obama's sorry-ass budget being sent to Congress I think that this call needed to be covered up and we needed to shout very loudly whatever you hear there is no neo Nazis! No snipers! No killing! No targeted! No wag the dog! No nothing! No nothing! Nothing! Because this is not getting a lot of play This is certainly not getting the kind of FDEU play that Noodleman got. Well, especially if you go to ABC and some of these networks that have essentially... I have a package of three pieces from ABC which is their coverage with your friend, I think she was sober. Oh Diane do we need to play the jingle just in case?

CHAPTER 17 / 56 Discussion

ABC News Ukraine Coverage, Martha Raddatz and Terry Moran

The hosts critique ABC News' reporting on the Ukraine crisis, specifically segments showing Ukrainian troops marching toward Russian guns while singing. They mock the dramatic presentation of Secretary of State John Kerry's visit to Kiev and the use of file footage for a Russian ICBM test.

abc news· martha raddatz· terry moran· john kerry· kiev· icbm

44:24 Well, sure. And which is it? The ABC... This is Laughable Ukraine Rundown and Run Down Part 2 & 3 Okay I will put this on... With the lament that my favorite one is part three you're gonna just die You want to play three first No no no It's actually built In order Drunk again Drinkin' cyanide Drunk again Ukraine, Crimea and an international tug of war. ABC's Martha Raddatz is traveling with the Secretary of State and she is standing by and ABC's chief foreign correspondent Terry Moran is also on this story tonight starting us off with the latest on that crisis in Ukraine

45:03 At Belbek airbase here this morning, Ukrainian troops unarmed marched toward the Russian guns and as they marched they sang their national anthem. So they're gonna lead off this piece, which is long and I actually cut some of it out but they lead off this piece showing the Russians have according to a...I didn't know there's another report that discusses it. The Russian by Ukrainian law are allowed to have 11000 soldiers on. Oh no! I thought was 25 thousand. I thought was eleven or maybe it was twenty five thousand. But there's lots Yeah And those are the guys that supposedly invaded even though they were already there

45:46 And so they have this scene which I swear to you, with all the sounds in the back and these guys singing. A bunch of drunken Ukrainians with no weapons marching in like a squad coming down and they're gonna confront the Russians who just drive them off with a few shots through the air. The way they present this is that...the way ABC presents this A show of the great Ukraine people and they heads held high, and they showed the Russians. It's idiotic! It's idiotic to play. Confronting the Russians who had seized control of their base forward under the Ukrainian flag they came. The Russians yelled then fired

46:32 Warning shots, but the first shots fired here then negotiations and the Ukrainians withdrew heads held high. It was a day of high tension Russia test launching an ICBM like this one. A scheduled launch but still a statement. Mr Kerry, welcome to Ukraine. Nice to see you. And in Kiev the Ukrainian capital 500 miles away Secretary of State Kerry walked the streets where scores of Ukrainians died in protests last month then praised their revolution What they stood for so bravely I say with full conviction

47:09 Will never be stolen by bullets or by invasions It's called freedom. You know we gave the Oscar to the wrong guy is gay this guy just far gunshots in the back and by the way they show the missile and they say ICBM launch like this one did it say file footage no I bet not yeah that's I'll just I'm gonna jump right back to your clip you know Andrea Mitchell And this is all elitist. These people are all actors, they're all put in this game to... If you have not seen Wag the Dog, you need to see it and we need to find out who's directing or actually who's producing this one

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Andrea Mitchell and John Kerry, Phony Pretext Comments

Andrea Mitchell reports on John Kerry's defiant stance against Vladimir Putin in Kiev. The hosts highlight the irony of Kerry's statement that "you just don't invade another country on phony pretext," noting the history of U.S. interventions in Iraq and elsewhere.

andrea mitchell· john kerry· vladimir putin· kiev· iraq· invasion

47:54 So Andrea Mitchell, she apparently turns up in Keeve and even though she's a multi-millionaire married to Ben Bernanke. Now she's there to play along the script... She's not married to Bernanke, she's married to uh... I'm sorry, Greenspan? Yeah Better! Better, i'm sorry Greenspan Yes If you mean if the guy is even alive And she literally has the script and carries making faces just like his acting coach taught him. Thank you very much, Mr Secretary U.S officials have been saying that Vladimir Putin will be isolated by his actions yet today he seemed defiant

48:35 speaking for an hour, taking questions. He said among other things that Russia reserves the right to take any action to use any means obviously military means he described events here as an unconstitutional coup. He denied that there were any Russian troops in Crimea occupying Crimea. He blamed the crisis on United States interference saying that the US really denied there were troops in Crimea. What? He really does say deny that? I have the news conference what Kerry didn't get a briefing about what he said even i got a briefing from Russian producers of this program. He said yeah, that's you know this is a fair translation of what he said and Kerry surprised by this no! No this is scene 35 Keeve press conference fade in from Black. Yes he did

49:32 He also blamed the crisis on the United States. Lurch, all right? My favorite by the way since we're gonna do it this is a shaggy dog yeah yeah I got an end to this by the way John Kerry another ironic comment i think this is the best It is not appropriate to invade a country and at the end of a barrel of a gun dictate what you are trying to achieve. Hold on a second, it's this one! You just don't invade another country on phony pretext

CHAPTER 19 / 56 Discussion

Victoria Nuland and Neocon Influence, Robert Kagan

The hosts discuss Victoria Nuland's role in the Ukraine crisis and her marriage to Robert Kagan, a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). They argue that a "neocon" faction within the State Department is driving a policy of NATO expansion that has sidelined President Obama.

victoria nuland· robert kagan· neocons· state department· nato· pnac

50:10 in order to assert your interests. Well, but there are ways... There are ways... Unless you're America and you're doing it for Iraq or Iran or something like that so this is the script is playing out over multiple channels the same thing over and over again. It's dynamite! I have to say it's a big one and by the way this is being run by the State Department. I did a little research on Noodleman. I'm sorry Victoria Newland And so Victoria Noodleman is a real name. She changed it to Newland and of course we understand I mean who wants to be laughed at? Who wants to be Noodleman! No offense to the one noodle man that listens in the show. You know she, of course famously was at the My Dan handing out cookies or pretzels or whatever she was handing out then of course we had the phone call

51:08 She was handing out per diems Who's an extra all right, here's your pity are you sag eligible? Oh that's too bad. Well you can still get a per diem now she is married to Robert Kagan Robert Kagan, one of the... actually one of the co-founders of The Project for The New American Century. These are the guys who said we need a new Pearl Harbor and then 9 11 happened and these are the guys who talked about all these countries you need to go in and destabilize what's interesting which I didn't rubble eyes is his brother is Frederick Kagan this is the guy this is the guy

51:54 He has a PhD in Russian and Soviet military history. Of course, both these boys are from Yale of course they're skull and bones just like Kerry His father Donald Kagan professor at Yale fellow at the Hudson Institute he authored the real Iraq study group consulted for Baker wrote The Choosing Victory A Plan For Success In Iraq He influenced George W. Bush, these are the neocons! He consulted for Robert Gates, Petraeus... These are the guys and their henchmen, noodleman went out and started doing the business. The neocons have taken over

52:46 the State Department and as witnessed I think this was a complete surprise we discussed in the last show to the president who's like what? He is always in chair sitting down answering random questions. Yes, he has a whole different agenda What the hell oh yeah well I don't know Yeah he has a complete... In fact it's making him look really stupid Governor Romney I'm glad that you recognize that Al Qaeda is a threat because a few months ago when you were asked what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America You said Russia Not Al Qaeda, you said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Ho ho ho! Yeah so it's making him look stupid because he wasn't prepared for Russia but also he is like a bit player and has no parts

CHAPTER 20 / 56 Discussion

Vladimir Putin's Worldview, Soviet Union Collapse

ABC News profiles Vladimir Putin's background as a KGB officer and his view of the Soviet Union's collapse as a major catastrophe. The report frames Putin's actions in Crimea as an attempt to reshape history and restore Russian influence in former Soviet territories.

vladimir putin· kgb· soviet union· crimea· barack obama· history

53:32 He's got no lines. Why did you ever write a script for him? I'm sorry Mr President, we left you on the cutting room floor! No but not even... It wasn't even casted Yes it was barely cast it was not his episode Get my agent on the phone I am being screwed on this deal So back to the laughable rundown part two. Alright, here we go. In Moscow Vladimir Putin offered a different version of reality in an extraordinary appearance. The new Ukrainian government? Illegitimate he said US support for it was like running experiments on rats

54:12 And the US, he said must stop encouraging what he called illegal change in the territory of the former Soviet Union. The Soviet Union shaped Putin a loyal KGB officer for 15 years. Here is what he wrote... Lainey Ruffin style is puking in her grave. She's what are you guys doing? You're doing it all wrong I don't even know if it was Putin, but it was somebody big-lipped, ugly little kid. Da da da da da ruski ruski ruski! What the country looked like back then a colossus and this is how it shrunk when the Soviet Union collapsed which Putin called the greatest catastrophe of the century his worldview shaped by the loss of an empire he was born in a large soviet space that encompassed

55:07 a huge part of the Earth's landmass. They still called themselves Soviet, by which they mostly meant Russian." President Obama said today that Putin quote isn't fooling anybody but Putin is less interested in winning arguments than he is shaping history and with thousands of troops on the ground and in control here in Crimea now He is doing just that. Diane? I mean we could, Diane... We could play the bullcrap clips all day long it is and by the way people stop sending me clips from NPR with analysis and never we're not going to use it never ever because

CHAPTER 21 / 56 Discussion

Russian Villains in Hollywood, The Muppets Most Wanted

The hosts note a resurgence of Russian villains in Hollywood, specifically citing the new Muppets movie featuring a criminal frog named Constantine with a Russian accent. They suggest this media trend aligns with the current geopolitical tension between the U.S. and Russia.

muppets most wanted· tina fey· constantine· russian accent· hollywood· propaganda

55:45 All of this the analysis everything it's all bullcrap and the beauty of it is The beauty and God I think ABC and Disney these guys are they there. They are skull-and-bones because They know the American public in particular But anyone who enjoys? American product, and we have some outstanding Product I will tell you when it comes to Hollywood Just go look and tell me that every bad guy has a Russian accent It's always the East Bloc countries who are plotting to do crap and lo and behold just in time for all of this craziness We have the new Muppets movie The world's greatest criminal has stolen the greatest treasures Escapes their greatest prisons And he bears a strong resemblance

56:40 To someone you know. It's not easy being mean. It's Constantine, the world's most dangerous frog! Check this out! I'm not Constantine... You're going to be here a while. Hi-ho! Kermit the Frog here! So it's all Russian? And you've got all of Hollywood in this movie speaking with Russian KGB accents. Yes, it's Tina Fey who you're hearing. I am Kermit and now you guys have all the... I am Kermit! I don't like Poo-in! Freedom you want? What?! When do i do the indoor running of the bulls? I can't watch

57:25 My name will go down in history as great the thief of all time. You can go watch the trailer Boris and Natasha all over again It's a word train. I'm going to get to this last part of this triad, which is an interesting term in itself because now they...this is what happens. Diane's talking to her girl in Europe and first you think she must be in Ukraine or Crimea because that's what they're talking about but you keep looking at the shot You say, I didn't. I really don't think they have a copy of the Arc de Triomphe.

58:06 In Kiev. In Kiev? And so you realize that she's in Paris and she says he's in Paris eventually but then what is she doing at Paris, and by the way why are they having all these meetings? They have a meeting about the situation in Ukraine yeah they have it in Paris. Well hello! They're having a meeting about some other kind of Syria. Well hello! Paris! Hello! Why are they having it in Paris? In Belfast speak! Why would they have to go all the way to Paris constantly?! Don't you like the wine, don't you like Pierre the hairdresser to work on you. Don't you just love the trannies on the Champs Elysees come on!! You know the thing about especially these foreign correspondents in Paris

CHAPTER 22 / 56 Discussion

Diplomatic Meetings in Paris, John McCain on Putin

International meetings regarding Ukraine are held in Paris, which the hosts mock as a perk for foreign correspondents. They play a clip of Senator John McCain describing Putin as a "KGB colonel bent on restoration of the Russian Empire" and discuss the likelihood of Russia keeping Crimea.

paris· john mccain· vladimir putin· crimea· martha raddatz· diplomacy

57:25 My name will go down in history as great the thief of all time. You can go watch the trailer Boris and Natasha all over again It's a word train. I'm going to get to this last part of this triad, which is an interesting term in itself because now they...this is what happens. Diane's talking to her girl in Europe and first you think she must be in Ukraine or Crimea because that's what they're talking about but you keep looking at the shot You say, I didn't. I really don't think they have a copy of the Arc de Triomphe.

58:06 In Kiev. In Kiev? And so you realize that she's in Paris and she says he's in Paris eventually but then what is she doing at Paris, and by the way why are they having all these meetings? They have a meeting about the situation in Ukraine yeah they have it in Paris. Well hello! They're having a meeting about some other kind of Syria. Well hello! Paris! Hello! Why are they having it in Paris? In Belfast speak! Why would they have to go all the way to Paris constantly?! Don't you like the wine, don't you like Pierre the hairdresser to work on you. Don't you just love the trannies on the Champs Elysees come on!! You know the thing about especially these foreign correspondents in Paris

58:46 that they can't afford even with their high salaries and a lot of them get, they don't get anchor money but they get really substantial money. But still not enough to gallivant around Paris on somebody else's dime! That's the way to go. So they're having a good time in Paris so she... but anyway this woman decides to editorialize and just give it to, give it to Puin before you do that we should play at least a little side clip John McCain on Putin. You better say it right. Putin. Vladimir Putin is an old KGB colonel bent on restoration of the Soviet, of the Russian Empire This president believes that cold war was over. Vladimir Putin doesn't believe that the cold war is over.

59:32 He doesn't believe the Cold War is over. No, we're resurrecting it! Get that Muppets movie out quick now dammit it's time! Oh let's all talk like this Boris and Natasha, escrel? Okay, laughable report part three. Right now so Martha give it to us straight... You gotta go straight! Don't lie to us Martha tell us the truth now. Conflict with Russia tonight or not? Vladimir Putin, the bully Vladimir Putin... Bully?! He's already got what he wants, Crimea. So it is very possible that he won't push any further This is the way that man negotiates. He is a bully, he has hammer hands. This how he... This is how he is a bully! He does not go in with storm troopers and anti-semites and all kinds of crazy sharpshooters to kill people No, he's a bully! But there are going to be meetings they are negotiating

1:00:20 There are negotiations going on. Tomorrow, Secretary Kerry will be meeting with the Russian foreign minister here in Paris. Secretary Kerry really wants to get this settled as soon as possible. So at the end of the day can the United States let Russia keep Crimea this way? You know a simple answer to that is Europe gonna go to war over Crimea and the United States certainly won't so that may well happen Alright, so for those who of course today the news came out that Crimea has said they want allegiance with Russia and they're going to have accelerate some referendum on March 15th. It's all it doesn't matter this is not about that at all. There is a point here you're missing I think this does matter

CHAPTER 23 / 56 Discussion

Professor Stephen Cohen, NATO Expansion History

Professor Stephen Cohen argues on PBS NewsHour that the Ukraine crisis is the result of 20 years of NATO expansion toward Russia's borders, beginning under the Clinton administration. He suggests Putin's move in Crimea makes Ukraine ineligible for NATO membership due to ongoing territorial disputes.

stephen cohen· nato· bill clinton· ukraine· crimea· territorial dispute

1:01:07 and I have clips to back this up. The guy that they kept talking about, Stephen Cohen who was a professor at Princeton and NYU... That's the guy who was on with Brolf? Yeah he came on the news hour with Gwen and essentially blew her out of the water because she had two stooges from the government in talking about how great Obama is. Of course, that's what she you know She wrote the book on Obama literally. She's a hagiography he hagiography and he comes in it just says Obama's an idiot and then Putin's doing this and that and then it's very interesting Because the one thing that nobody brought up if we did get it from one of our producers

1:01:48 uh... mentions name by the front of his email he said a very long notes very educational vitality uh... yes where it is that ally with him so you can see paid to pay their own will find it now and i think someone i don't know about that or i don't know it's uh... votes bill if any cats in Sorry, I didn't mean to slow you down. Let's rock on. One of our many producers... So he wrote about a five-page thing about the situation and then he made this one little thing at the very end which i thought was actually part of it and there are clips to play that back this up and one of them is this Cohen guy who says this all began 20 years ago with Clinton

1:02:37 who kept pushing, pushing, pushing NATO further toward Russia and it's never stopped. And Russia is getting a little sick of it and the last thing they want is...and this gets talked about you have to admit...the Ukraine being part of NATO. Yeah with the security agreement as a part of the association agreements So he came up with this little analysis, I think it has all to do with the Crimean situation. Finally as a bonus to Russia Ukraine may become ineligible to join NATO As the charter prohibits new members that have ongoing territorial disputes You have to have that resolved otherwise you can't join

1:03:16 So all Putin has to do, he may be playing a three-dimensional game with the rest of the world still learning checkers or perhaps he's just an egomaniac. But I think that this is the whole play is to destabilize Mean that let the thing played out again, and it didn't work out for him in the in Ukraine But if he gets this thing in Crimea just enough there's a debate going on that can't shouldn't be resolved He's not gonna want to take over. That's why he's not gonna send hold on it hold on a second I need to back up for a moment because I have a different View on this and the Crimean thing It's just another stage it doesn't with the only thing it matters is

1:04:00 that maybe the US would not like is the fact that the Russian weapons going to Egypt are being transported by Crimea. That's the only thing that maybe they wouldn't like, there's no gas there, there's nothing of any importance. But the Russians aren't going to let this linger, they're not gonna march in... Step back for me Did this happen first we all agree? This was the neocon State Department's carry noodle men skull and bones who set this up fuck the EU right they made it happen Why?

CHAPTER 24 / 56 Discussion

Natural Gas Geopolitics, NATO Strategy in Ukraine

The hosts debate whether the Ukraine crisis is primarily about NATO expansion or energy resources. They revisit Stephen Cohen's analysis that forcing Ukraine to choose between the West and Russia was a strategic error that led to the current military confrontation.

natural gas· nato· crimea· stephen cohen· bill clinton· geopolitics

1:03:16 So all Putin has to do, he may be playing a three-dimensional game with the rest of the world still learning checkers or perhaps he's just an egomaniac. But I think that this is the whole play is to destabilize Mean that let the thing played out again, and it didn't work out for him in the in Ukraine But if he gets this thing in Crimea just enough there's a debate going on that can't shouldn't be resolved He's not gonna want to take over. That's why he's not gonna send hold on it hold on a second I need to back up for a moment because I have a different View on this and the Crimean thing It's just another stage it doesn't with the only thing it matters is

1:04:00 that maybe the US would not like is the fact that the Russian weapons going to Egypt are being transported by Crimea. That's the only thing that maybe they wouldn't like, there's no gas there, there's nothing of any importance. But the Russians aren't going to let this linger, they're not gonna march in... Step back for me Did this happen first we all agree? This was the neocon State Department's carry noodle men skull and bones who set this up fuck the EU right they made it happen Why?

1:04:35 to follow the thing that started 20 years ago, push NATO into Ukraine. That's the only reason there is no money other than that. Well no there is also oil and gas... That's where I want to go but I want you finish the NATO thing. That's it! This my prediction for The Red Book nothing is going to come of this Crimea thing they're gonna vote to associate with Russia It's gonna be a point of controversy that is going to linger forever Yes, and that will keep NATO from coming in because that did be a violation of their own rules And that's all Putin really doesn't way he doesn't want these guys He wrote the fact if you listen to these other clips Cohen is the best one at this If you want to listen to some guy whose analysis I think is right on the money that nobody would You know they they poo-poo. The whole get they poopoo the guy plays Cope Stephen Cohen part 1 what why are why are we in this position tonight professor Cohen? What is Putin's? here

1:05:35 I don't know where to begin because i've just listened to two statements of the official American position. The position about where we are today and how we got here, I think they're fundamentally wrong what were watching today is the worst kind history being made. The descent of a new cold war divide between West and East in Europe, this time not in faraway Berlin but right on Russia's borders through Ukraine. That will be instability and the prospect of war for decades to come for our kids and our grandchildren The official version is that Putin is to blame he did this but it simply isn't true This began 20 years ago when Clinton began the movement of NATO toward Russia

1:06:20 a movement that's continued and even if we just go back to this November, just a few months ago when the protesters came into the streets in Ukraine Putin said to Europe and Washington why are you forcing Ukraine to choose between Russia in Europe? We're prepared with Europe to do a kind of mini Marshall Plan, to bail Ukraine out. Let's do it together and that was refused by Washington in Brussels and that refusal led to the situation today And one last point... The worst outcome you asked Michael And he didn't say, but he said what he didn't want. The worst outcome because we hear this clamor in Washington and we heard it in Europe is a movement in response to what Putin's done in Crimea to move NATO forces to the Polish-Ukrainian border

1:07:07 If we do that, Putin will certainly bring troops in from Russia itself. The troops in Crimea seem to be troops that were based at the naval base not with the troops in Russia I'm not sure and then you all have a real confrontation All right this guy needs to be eliminated from the airwaves he's making way too much sense This is... He'll never be back on No-no-no That's no We cannot have him on the air talking sense like this This is..I agree with this However, I've been tracking this guy Carlos Pasqual. Carlos Pascual in 2012 or 2011 by Lucifer Clippity-Clop Hillary Clinton was put in place in charge of the State Department's Bureau of Energy Resources

CHAPTER 25 / 56 Discussion

Gazprom Gas Prices, U.S. Energy Leverage

Russia's Gazprom cancelled natural gas discounts to Ukraine, highlighting the country's dependence on Russian energy. The New York Times reports that U.S. diplomats view the crisis as an opportunity to promote American natural gas exports to Europe, potentially weakening Russia's "energy weapon."

gazprom· natural gas· ukraine· pipelines· europe· fracking

1:07:58 And this is, you know, 85-95 people. This is a pretty good little operation. Funded? It's funded and he's in and he's good to go. The New York Times today purely by accident I'm sure posted an article which actually was yesterday as you know which makes so much sense to me and it's everything we've been talking about If you or at least from the energy standpoint, so we know that there's this huge debt that That Ukraine has to Gazprom. They can't pay for it This is how it all started Putin said oh, you know I'll cut your rates You know will make it okay? We can work out a deal 1515 billion which by the way now magically has been matched how how pathetic is that and

1:08:51 that we actually matched it with the EU, 1 billion for the US 14 billion from the EU. Which is not a done deal but the news is out there oh just so you know its not about money or anything well match it all make it all good of course what happens with the what's really going to happen to the Ukrainian people will be quite sad like Greece But the New York Times, they like their article so much which I'll read from in a moment. They even did a one-minute video about it! This is the new thing with The Times when they like what they're doing and post a video when there's a little bit of budget for it The importance of natural gas for Russia and Ukraine, both countries' points of leverage and the U.S role this morning on the New York Times Minute Russian gas giant Gazprom announced the cancellation Tuesday of a natural gas discount to Ukraine which will further hit the shaky economy. Ukraine is laced with pipelines and 63% of all Russian gas exports pass through Ukraine to get to Europe

1:09:49 clear both countries have a lot of leverage in the situation. The Russians can turn off the gas to Ukraine, but the Ukrainians can turn off the gas to Europe at which point everybody starts losing. Historically that's when a deal gets struck so it's kind of mutual blackmail with the engagement going forward the United States is jockeying for position US diplomats see the crisis as an opportunity to weaken Russia's ability to use natural gas as a weapon. The US is hoping to increase its own exports to Europe, weaning the continent off of Russia down the road. So Carol Coral Davenport and Stephen Erlanger wrote this piece

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TTIP Trade Agreement, U.S. Gas Export Strategy

The hosts discuss the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) and its role in facilitating U.S. gas exports. Adam Curry predicts President Obama will use an executive order to allow emergency gas exports to Europe to counter Russian influence, despite opposition from U.S. petrochemical companies.

ttip· natural gas· fracking· barack obama· executive order· exports

1:10:27 And I think it's really good. They got some information in here which i have not read anywhere else and I'm wondering but we know that the timing right now is very weird because we have EU elections coming up in May In order to export our gas under a trade agreement to Europe, which is what I've been looking at the TTIP That would have to be in place. It looks like we've messed that all up and Obama clearly can't get it done He's not even talking about it anymore There's way too much pushback on the whole idea but we need to get our gas out It's the only thing and that's what Hillary Clinton saw and what she set this organization up for from The Times article

1:11:08 The crisis has escalated a State Department initiative to use a new boom in American natural gas supplies as lever against Russia, which supplies 60% of Ukraine's natural gas and has a history of cutting off the supply during conflicts. This week Gazprom, Russia state-run natural gas company said it would no longer provide gas at discounted rate The administration's strategy to move aggressively to deploy the advantages of its new resources, to undercut Russian natural gas sales to Ukraine and Europe weakens such moves by Mr. Putin in future years although Russia is still the world's biggest export of natural gas United States recently surpassed it to become the world's largest natural gas producer large because of fracking obviously For Russia energy supplies are as important so they go into the pipelines thing here

1:11:50 David Dalton editor of the Economist Intelligence Unit says Russia has always used gas as an instrument of influence. The more you owe Gazprom, the more they think that you can turn the screws now this time there's a major difference according to The Times As recently is 2007 American natural gas supplies were believed to be dwindling blah blah We know it's much more They are setting up now and in this year of action John I'm gonna put in the red book the following since the president came out today with his executive order which essentially is you're Russian and we don't like how you smell, we're taking away your money. We're not letting you travel in or out of the country." That's essentially what the EO says and I predict in this year of action he's going to take his pen and he is going to create an executive order that allows for emergency exports of gas to Europe because of the Ukrainian crisis

1:12:46 And I think that has always been one of the end games for the neocons running this thing. And, of course war is great too if we can get the NATO stuff in there because we need to sell more stuff. There's a couple things that are variables here I want to mention One is the American petrochemical companies do not like any of this Well, Dow Chemical and DuPont they like the very very cheap gas to make their products. I totally agree And they don't and they know if gas starts finding new markets for this cheap gas natural gas is extremely inexpensive Yes This cheap gas that they make plastic from Plastics are largely made from gas and all these other crazy things at Dupont would endow Would make they don't like the idea of double having to pay twice as much for their natural than the

CHAPTER 27 / 56 Discussion

Intelligence Community Failures, Putin's Crimea Annexation

A report from an "Economic Hitman" source suggests the U.S. intelligence community was blindsided by Putin's annexation of Crimea. Congressional hearings are expected to investigate how the Obama administration misread Putin's likely reaction to the destabilization of the Ukrainian government.

intelligence· putin· crimea· annexation· barack obama· state department

1:13:35 raw materials and they're there and they have lots of lobbyists And they're the ones that are pushing back on a lot of this to keep it from happening So we kept to keep that in mind. However another thing I had a report from The Economic Hitman who's back from Africa good good, and he his friend is a We don't know and he doesn't say but she's an agent for that little defense the State Department state department's intelligence agency And she, apparently from what I can ascertain besides working 18 hours a day over something that has to do with Ukraine there's missing pieces of information that we don't know about. But this is the little thing that got my attention

1:14:19 She admitted that no one in the intelligence world, which she's part of... and this is really stopped me in my tracks because this makes no sense to me since I believe the two of us knew this. She admitted that no one in an intelligence world ever imagined that Putin would be crazy enough to annex Crimea They are now preparing for the congressional hearings which are about to take place to determine how the USA, aka Obama misread how Putin was going to react to the crisis in Ukraine. I find that peculiar Well it sounds like the State Department is handing out a script for everyone to go scurry after

1:15:02 She must know what the real deal is. And anything to make Obama look stupid and checkmate him, put him off to the side... To cripple him is great! adverse to which is that Kerry was actually the wrong guy to put in there because he brought with him his neocon buddies who are you know neoliberals, neocons the same thing. It's this group of people that are all... These are the people who got us into Iraq! The same people! They want a one-world government they would get this is Clinton. Clinton and Bush

CHAPTER 28 / 56 Discussion

Natural Gas Export Terminals, Resource Wars

The Department of Energy has begun issuing permits for natural gas export terminals on the Gulf Coast, with major companies like Chevron and Exxon involved. The hosts conclude that the conflict in Ukraine is fundamentally a struggle over turf, resources, and geopolitical influence.

chevron· exxon· shell· gulf coast· natural gas· terminals

1:15:40 Bill Hillary's the same freaking people and the only difference is that Bill wasn't in the skull and bones right But yeah, no these are the same creeps and I think Obama's...I don't know what is going on with him to be so flat-footed. If you want to play something interesting... Let me just read one more passage here from this... Yeah finish that. The Energy Department has started to issue permits to American companies to export natural gas starting in 2015 So they may have to move that up a little bit. It's essentially, we have terminals there are 21 applications to build port facilities at the Gulf Coast really Texas Louisiana They really just have to reverse the valve you know instead of bringing it in we just turn around and push it back out Yeah well thats what its called. That's right reverse it

1:16:40 And it's all of our, it's all of our friends. It's Chevron its Exxon. Its Total. Its Shell is a very good article and then I think that seems like the obvious one with this is The only things that are ever fought over are turf and resources And hookers, I don't think there's anything else worth fighting for well and you've got all three Yeah Ukraine holy lots of hookers. There's a lot of land someone sent me a video list I mean these poor people one of the things are Vitaly said in his note was that the Russians don't want? You know it's annoying It's a burden for their yeah They don't know they don't

CHAPTER 29 / 56 Discussion

Catherine Ashton in Kiev, European Diplomatic Solutions

Leaked audio continues to show EU official Catherine Ashton's reaction to reports of sniper activity in Kiev. She is also seen meeting with Ukrainian leaders, suggesting they "lay flowers" where protesters died as a symbolic gesture to stabilize the new government.

catherine ashton· kiev· maidan· snipers· diplomacy· flowers

1:17:31 I would just like to finish up my part and then we need to thank some people as well. Um, I want...I just wanted you listen to the final bits of this Ashton call and then just so you can hear it. Did you hear this whole call or not? Yeah, I did. Play it! What exactly happened is that there's a stronger understanding that behind snipers they were...it was not Yanukovych but somebody from the new coalition I think we do want to investigate. I mean, i didn't pick that up it's interesting gosh oh it's interesting gosh oh gosh gosh i think we do want to investigate and there's also on the show notes this video of the prime minister this what's his name Yat who went to meet

1:18:20 Baroso, Haiku Herman and No Chin Monster who has the worst outfit. It looks like she's wearing one of those yellow rain jackets that your mom used to dress you up in as a kid? She misses Clinton! Yeah big time... And he walks in he's got his skinny suit on with his skinny pants and he sees Mr. Mister Man walking in eh?! He kisses her three times kisses the no chin monster three times because It's disgusting to see this play out. And here and here's Ashton... No chin monster! It's like a chin has been chopped off Here is Ashton talking about what she feels should be done But I've also said to them if you simply barricade the buildings now

1:19:13 and the government doesn't function, we can't get money in because we need a partner to partner with. I've said to the opposition leaders shortly to become government you need to reach out to Maydanne, you need to be engaging with them You also need to get ordinary police officers back on the streets under a new sense of their role so that people feel safe I said to the part of the region's people, you have to go and lay flowers where the people died. You have to show that you understand what has happened here." That's our grand European solution! Go lay some flowers! And that's what Carrie did... Hey by the way, I just got a text from Ms. Mickey

CHAPTER 30 / 56 Discussion

Skunk Scent Incident, Rabies Awareness

During the recording, Adam Curry's wife, Micky, reports a strong gas smell outside their house. After investigation, they determine the scent is actually from a skunk living near the garage, leading to a discussion about the chemical similarities between skunk spray and the odorants added to natural gas.

skunk· gas leak· ethyl mercaptan· rabies· nocturnal animals· austin

1:19:54 We have a strong gas smell coming from the outside of the house. I've called the gas company, they're on their way." Yeah? It's funny because I thought I smelled something weird during this- the program... Go check your stove to see if it's like uh...? I'm sure she checked it's from outside the house. Oh could be anything you know this is skunk no it's funny because we did have a skunk the other day that's what skunks smell like ah interesting or it's finally time It's gonna blow up the place. Yeah, it happens there. Hell yes! Mr. Curry had a gas leak and the house was blown up with two houses with it. I think Mickey...I know you're listening darling that may be skunk she never smelled skunk we talked about that we saw this skunk the other day oh if you saw a skunk death skunk I think your and if you saw a skunk you have a rabbit skunk in the area yeah you should not was during the day? Yes

1:20:47 Yeah, bad. Do you ever see a skunk during the day? This is my advice to people who don't know about skunks Hold on a second ladies and gentlemen we now have official news from John C Dvorak Skunk Awareness Week Skunk Awareness Week if you see a skunk out During the day it's a nocturnal animal You should realize he probably has or she has rabies That will be the skunk. You said that again, you sounded just like you were in the club sounds like she should have rabies on the pole. She's got rabies. Ah, you know what? I think you're right. I think it is a skunk. I think that's what is that the aroma that is in they put in the natural gas is

1:21:41 Hydrogen's a little, I think it's a little...I used to know what the chemicals were. They use specific chemicals but they don't use any dichrotal sulfide which is one thing The skunk is ethyl mercaptan, which that is what they use in natural gas but it's also dichroidal sulfide. Her name is Ethyl? Sulfide and those...that second smell which smells also could be maybe a little butyl mercaptan It has that rubbery scent So the... You don't get the rubbery scent in natural gas We had our guy come by He hadn't been by in months

1:22:17 to blow up the leaves and you know then tidy up the yard Javier by the way every single Mexican that I've ever met in Austin his name is Javier. Have you ever noticed? This one guy with one passport and it says Javier, and so in Javier he says before he leaves just say no there's a skunk by the garage And I and this was two days ago Was it Saturday and two or three days ago, and I go outside and lo and behold right in Mickey's little She has a little studio thing. He is next to the garage. This is all this stuff is falling down It's not it's just not a studio It's a wooden shack where you wouldn't even go smoke cigarettes with your buddies as a kid and there it is and I see that and and it's It's just before

1:23:05 It must have been four in the afternoon, so the sun was still up or it was still light out. And the skunks walk and I call her and say Mickey look here's a skunk she said oh it is beautiful animal! And he goes down underneath her shed or whatever and that's the last time we saw him because you're right there's a skunk That's what it is. That's what I was smelling too Maybe he got hit by car maybe he's dead somewhere that could also be happening Yeah then they stink for days. Oh for days months Yeah, well. All right so- That's solved! Another problem solved by the team from No Agenda. Squirrel! Yeah Mickey is a... yeah okay these guys are gonna show up and they're gonna laugh. Ma'am you got a skunk? You got a skunk in our neighborhood. And we're not talking about your husband. Don't you know what a skunk is?! We're not talking about your husband

CHAPTER 31 / 56 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Raymond Rojo and Isaac Chase

The hosts thank major donors, including Raymond Rojo, who donated $400, and Isaac Chase, who donated $333.33. They discuss the "value for value" model and its application in other businesses, such as firearms training in Colorado.

donations· executive producer· raymond rojo· isaac chase· winnipeg· value for value

1:23:52 Hey, you know what John let's just take a moment here. This has been such a dynamic conversation I think we've played 30 clips in quick succession and I need to thank you for your courage And I need to thank YOU for your courage! And in the morning to you John C. DuBois In the morning to you Adam Curry, all ships and sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there We do have some people to thank. We have two executive producers and two associate executive producers, the weeks are getting slower as we approach show 600 maybe everyone's saving up Pierre Menegre I'm get or man meant men a good it would be French manager manager manager name manager managers It doesn't make any difference. That's not as he calls himself Raymond Rojo, so let's get through Raymond Rowe is oops $400 Somewhere I heard pink sing somewhere over the rainbow Oscar my ultra programming compelled me to donate three hundred twenty two dollars and 23 cents it worked

1:24:52 The best podcast to the best podcast in the universe. Oh, however my OCD hates this so I'm throwing in a sack of sevens to round it out. Came in with $400 came up with great work and I get a shut-up slave LGY karma for all the Winnipeggers out there who have had to endure the coldest winter since 1939! The cap and trade is working out great. You've got karma. Awesome, thank you so much! That's very kind. Isn't that Sir Raymond Rojo? I think he's been knighted... That feels right yeah people please add that to your notes for so many reasons it's hard for us to track that and we want to address you properly We really do. That's what i'd say Isaac Chase

1:25:41 $333.33, sends a number of notes and I got into a debate with him actually about his notes? No, he had this kind of very weak theory about the three... Oh yes! And then I followed that debate and then sent him a private note and said, huh buzzkill pissing on your parade. And you didn't protect me! No Thank you for your courage this long-ass note accompanies my first executive producer donation I have three reasons for the 3333 first. I want to call it three lovely ladies at the stage, so he's cheating On the list for that next time we open the club oh by the way The club can't be rude I knew this was gonna happen don't tell me the inspectors came yep the inspectors came they They the dunk tank is gone unless We have to re what do you call when yet? I have an idea why don't we

CHAPTER 32 / 56 Discussion

Firearms Training Business Model, Guns For Everyone

A listener who runs "Guns For Everyone" in Colorado explains how he uses the No Agenda "value for value" model to provide free firearms and concealed carry training. The hosts discuss how this model can build a larger clientele by removing the barrier of upfront fees.

firearms training· colorado· guns for everyone· concealed carry· value for value· donations

1:26:38 Say it's a baptism tank in Texas Yeah, unfortunately places in Florida. Oh okay? Well Florida might work I don't know whatever the case we have to reinforce the surrounding beams or something Getting bids you have to get an architect in for that or do we do yeah? How annoying us hmm but also you know we may just take the dunk tank out But there's also some other issues with stage five Apparently it was put in poorly. Anyway, okay so he talks about... He used to work for the Colorado... I'll now skip his argument about three. Used to work for the Colorado State Government It was a job loaded with bullshit served hot and fresh daily by our benevolent overlords when Governor Hickenlooper... He says anytime you use a series of threes three means bullshit and I told him this is not an explanation for anything

1:27:31 The third reason for the 33-3 donation is to thank you for your value for value model. My business partner and I have been using it with great success in our firearms training endeavor we offer all of our training for free over the whole state of Colorado, to whomever wants it and by the way if you don't know how...if you want to shoot a gun or if you're gonna play with... Take some training! The training is not a big deal Wait a minute so he gives the training and concealed carry training for free? Free firearms training and free concealed carry classes, huh? Well that's what all you need did he just signed up W guns for everyone calm Oh Value for value and then you pay whatever you feel you worry What do you think this that you take the course to get your free yet your lessons You shoot a gun And then I love comfortable around weapons and then you decide to give him whatever you think he deserves Huh and it's working out apparently says it is since he's thanking us for our model nice. Oh

1:28:30 Someone sent me a note that by the way he does need alone wolf to do they had little kid milf alone Oh little kid And it was like with a karma with a car. Oh you want hot milk, baby He wants a lone wolf to the head little milf yeah That's one hot milk right right Yeah that one and in with uh with a karma I You've got karma. I like that, that's cool! That's a great idea you know what? I'd do that here...I love the whole idea he probably makes more money than whatever competitive rate he has to charge for other people doing that well for one thing I think there is a reason for that if your gonna use this model because it's free This is the old come on, its free and you probably double your clientele right off the bat

1:29:27 because people are gonna get put off by whatever the fee is, because you think it's too expensive. You don't even know what this course is about until you take it then but if you take the course free and then you say wow this was valuable and it is valuable to take these courses if you're gonna have firearms or have anything to do with them yeah and you go wow that was worth every penny on you give the guy you know whatever what's in you probably ask him I would what did you what would people normally charge for this? And you say whatever it is and you give him that money at least there may and you feel bad if you don't give them money because it's like being in a church. It's not like our show, we can't guilt people by having the guy sitting next to you look at you saying how come you're not giving any money? We can't do that on No Objection Show. Look at this plate! This plate I'm holding is supposed to have something on it?! I love the bag-on-a-stick better Have you ever seen the bag-on-a-stick? Catholics use that. Bag-on-the-stick

1:30:21 Hey, look what a poking that bag on a stick thing cool and what's the URL again? Guns for everyone calm nice good one So that's and then we have two I mean there are no notes and they came in as bank checks from one of the payment services. David Killian from Clinton, Illinois $208 which must mean something but I have no email and Susan Bell from Clarksville Maryland $201.33 Are you sure there wasn't a note from Susan Bell? I didn't see. I looked up Bell in my email, couldn't find it. Maybe she sent you something. Let me just check for a second... Do i see no and the other one David Killian Yeah K-I-L-L-I-A-N Killian, It's Me A-I-Double L-I-A-N Nothing! I got nothing! Okay well that's fine so there are two associate executive producers for show

CHAPTER 33 / 56 Discussion

No Agenda Summaries, Call Clooney Website

The hosts promote "Call Clooney," a website created by a listener that provides text-only summaries and time codes for No Agenda episodes. They also mention the "33 bags" produced by Eric and their utility for organizing gear.

github· python· call clooney· show summaries· indexing· 33 bags

1:31:22 597 that's all we got for this show. I want to remind people, we do have a show coming up on Sunday at 598 which will be couple away from Show 600 and you'll remember make sure to go to Dvorak.org slash NA and keep this show on the road yeah thank you for those of you who probably took the newsletter too hard to jump in at the last minute there and help us out that is highly appreciated we're running long today already I can tell so we will have a thank-you segment later on for our donors above $50 quick PR mention, I want to say NoahGeneration.com they've got the 33 bags you want an endorsement? And by the way we don't have nothing

1:32:01 Basically, Eric sends us an invoice every month and then sometimes he gives a little bit back. Honestly. Yeah I just learned from the old man. Well good Mickey loves the 33 bags She is she said oh my god. He's I'm not he said, I'm not bull crap. I love these bags They're sturdy they feel good as she uses them for all kinds of stuff and well if women like the 33 bag Thank you become a fashion state. Thank you That's exactly right. I think we're onto something in addition sir Ludark Babarque fudge fountain has set up something very cool that

1:32:42 He is doing he set up a and you can get this code from github. He has a no agenda summary page Which is text only you can go to the page And you get the summaries with time codes of what was on each individual show which is really good to have for it to be indexed You know people configure what was in the show for us to find stuff Thank you, and he has tools tools That you can pull from github to I think it's a maybe. It think it's python. I'm not sure Anyway, the url is call Clooney org so if you click on call Clooney org You go to no agenda summary So I'll go take a look here oh, it also has a PDF of all show summaries and this it Somehow works automatically you got to look at the tools as you look at our previous show

1:33:35 It has a nice, you know it says here one hour nine minutes American Red Cross month Irish American Heritage Month Women's History Month which reminds me John Yeah We have a few new things to look at for uh... Ow For this month Uh it is let me see did we uh 20- We missed on the 28th of February Read Across America Day I can't believe we missed that March 31st, coming up coming up coming up it will be... Oh no! It's for the whole month. I'm sorry. Colorectal Cancer Month which has ass cancer. Why does anyone want to celebrate that? Wooo! Cancer! And then my favorite it is we are still in the middle of National Consumer Protection Week which I would like to call out as completely bogative

CHAPTER 34 / 56 Discussion

Capital One Credit Card Scam, National Consumer Protection Week

Adam Curry recounts a negative experience with a Capital One credit card, alleging hidden fees and high interest rates despite marketing claims. He criticizes "National Consumer Protection Week" and officials like Elizabeth Warren for failing to protect citizens from predatory corporate practices.

capital one· credit card· faked fees· consumer protection· elizabeth warren· barack obama

1:34:42 Reading from his proclamation, we have taken action to prevent credit card companies from hiding fees in intentionally obscure text and giving families access to clear comprehensive information on student loans. Okay I would just like to say from time the time I try and see if i can get some credit... And I made a huge mistake awhile back and I haven't brought this up Yeah, I wanted you to bring this up yeah I told you privately and then you said I should talk about it on the show Because I'm embarrassed, you know if you have a FICA score of... It's a million. You don't need to talk about your FICA score just give us the facts about this scam So I get one of these flyers in the mail and says you know get the capital one This is what all those black actors are on What's in your wallet? Yeah that would be the one so did Alec Baldwin and the guy from uh Who was fired from it by the way yeah whatever um so like okay I'll try

1:35:39 And lo and behold, I go to the website and sign up. And then they say, you've been approved! Woohoo! Yeah? I went to Mickey, I'm like honey...I am credit worthy!! By the way before you continue... I thought I was still celebrating Before you continue with the celebration, I want to remind people that the story you're about to hear would never be told on any normal news outlet. Ever. No! Because you, the listener and producer are the ones who pay for this show You get this story Yes And they're huge advertisers They're HUGE advertisers They've corrupted all media that this particular story has not been told It's no different than GoDaddy or Carbonite Or any of these... They're all the same Besides the point it's a corporate corruption But go just tell

1:36:34 Don't let me interrupt you anymore. So they say, congratulations! You are worth $300 a month and I'm like alright this is good Would you like the card to look like this or this? And then click on whatever so just make it look kind of classy. I think actually black and yeah maybe if i put my thumb over that visa thing they'll think its American Black Card So it shows up and I didn't activate it right away. All you have to do is just use it, and the next day I get a bill! I get a statement so open it up and it says congratulations here's your first bill for $105 for the entire year and 15 dollars for your customization fee

1:37:21 There was no fee mentioned anywhere and I'm pretty good at looking at things. I really looked through as much as i could, and I saw no fees...I certainly didn't agree to any customization fee and right there it says but you know you can start now with your 23.8% interest rate and pay only $25 so I mean I pay it off immediately. I paid the whole thing off and um and I pay that... I would refuse the card! I didn't know you gave them any money Well, I'd already activated the card. By using it where? I paid for our new registration for Mickey's car. Ugh! So now... Now i'm hooked although I have to say they sent me a new note my credit line is now $400. That's right uh-huh that's right and not kidding

1:38:17 And they send me another statement and I'm like, oh now i'm traumatized because...I don't have to do any credit card bills ever because we use debit cards so now I'm traumatized. Actually have a checkbook downstairs in the kitchen for when this thing comes in so I can sign it right away because I'm such a procrastinator! I know I'll get screwed. It'll be I'll be owing thousands of dollars before you know it. That's how it works yeah but then they said that they and so there's the charge People are like interest fee, how can that be? They get to charge interest. I thought the deal was if you pay it immediately you have no interest charges Isn't that how it's supposed to work? Wow, they're gouging you from every left and right. Cancel the card and send the whole thing to Consumer Protection Services. I guarantee you if i cancel this card I'm going to get a $500 cancellation fee that I haven't seen in fact I might just do it just to prove the point so Presidential Proclamation National Consumer Protection Week blow me! Blow Me Obama! And what's that woman's name...that douche shield knuckle biatch

1:39:18 who's supposed to protect us. Elizabeth Warren? That one, the fake American Indian screw you too! Yeah, American Indian Elizabeth Warren Cherokee Screw you too National Consumer Protection Week You have done nothing and... So i take it that you're not recommending Capital One What's in your wallet well an old rubber that's all I want in my wallet Well, there's another fine anecdote. The Noah Jenner Show that will not be heard anywhere else ever This is why we need your support through donations because we don't look pretty to advertisers Devorak dot org slash m a And you can always go out and propagate our formula tell them that I sent you what's in your wallet? Huh the formula? Our formula is this We go out...We hit people in the mouth Order! Shut up!

CHAPTER 35 / 56 Discussion

Hollywood Domino Charity, Haiti Rebuilding Funds

The hosts mock a celebrity "Hollywood Domino" event intended to raise funds for Haiti. They express skepticism about where the money goes, noting that billions have already been raised for Haiti with little visible progress in rebuilding Port-au-Prince.

hollywood domino· haiti· charity· susan sarandon· bill clinton· port-au-prince

1:40:21 I'm gonna collect all 14 of what people yelling stuff Oh Man oh man. Oh, man. Oh, man Yeah So we could I guess we're gonna have to get off of the I think we can just say safely say don't think that's gonna be any war happening I don't think people are going to be getting well people may get killed for sure Yeah, by sniper. Yes both sides yeah, okay? I got what's today's What's today's bet and I think we should go three good guys and four cops Ask too many cops the cops are getting pissed off again shot in the head Okay Let's do two no let's do one cop and six guys six other guys just guys a woman and a baby I forgot to tell you

1:41:18 After the Oscars, this is so disgusting. I saw this article. Celebrities came together at The Hollywood Domino Pizza event sponsored by Heineken and Jose Cuervo to raise much-needed funds... This is after the Oscars. It was one of these after parties? And before I tell you what it was for, Rumor Willis that's uh... What is it? whoever that is, Kate Beckingsdale Kevin Jonas I guess are the Jonas brothers Vanessa Hudgens no idea who she is some people I don't know but celebrities came together for the Domino event sponsored by Heineken and Jose Cuervo to raise much-needed funds for artists for peace and justice to benefit Haiti in the rebuilding of Port-au-Prince yes! And so there's this artist for justice and peace

1:42:16 And they're raising money for Haiti. These guys, here's what my interpretation is... these guys are so brain dead these celebrities that they look and say hey remember when we did that Haiti thing? Yeah they took all the money really they took all the money well let's do that again and let's take the money ourselves Well, I don't know if they're going to take the money themselves. No! Let's take the money ourselves that's a great idea We can take the money we could take the money they took the money we can take the money so after billions of dollars live telethons all over the world

1:42:54 Now we have to have the artists and for peace and justice for Haiti which of course is a non-profit organization that encourages peace and social justice And addresses issues of poverty around the world our immediate goal is to serve the poorest communities in Haiti with programs in education health care and dignity Yeah, how about a toilet? For them to poop in. We can take their money! And then listen to people here at the advisory board Oh Javier Barim Pierce Brosnan, Jackson Browne Daniel Craig Russell Crowe Penelope Cruz Clinton and Dinah Eastwood Mark Evans Jane Fonda Dr. Henry Ford Francis Underwood Martha Rogers And it all ends up being Susan Sarandon Ah its disgusting I hear the gas guys I see them walking outside this is going to be funny

CHAPTER 37 / 56 Discussion

Los Angeles E-Cigarette Ban, Public Vaping Restrictions

The Los Angeles City Council voted to ban e-cigarettes in bars, nightclubs, and restaurants, treating them the same as traditional tobacco products. The hosts suggest the tobacco lobby may be behind such bans to prevent people from switching away from cigarettes.

e-cigarettes· los angeles· vaping ban· tobacco lobby· public health· restaurants

1:45:42 Well, California is weird by itself. Here's a news from Los Angeles fans of e-cigarettes won't be able to inhale in public in Los Angeles anymore The LA City Council voted Tuesday to ban them at bars, nightclubs and restaurants. The move essentially treats e-cigarettes the same way as traditional tobacco products New York City and Chicago also have similar bans in place Supporters say the ban will protect impressionable kids But opponents say the devices help people kick traditional cigarettes If I still lived in Los Angeles, I think i would just go to a restaurant and just put a vibrator my mouth. You know one of those ones that twirls and has lights on it an stuff? Yeah! Just hold that out and pretend to puff on it a little bit

1:46:25 I mean, this is ludicrous. There's been no...I mean they've had some study but certainly not years and years of study that this is detrimental to your health No because you can't do it because kids might be influenced and want to smoke a real cigarette? In a bar? What's the kid doing in a bar?! That is truly shut up slave You know just listen to the joint Do NOT SMOKE E-CIGARETTE SLAVE! It's really weird. Maybe just go to, you know stick a tampon in your nose or something I would really be doing that and if they start banning that in Texas I'll do that too. Just chew on an unlit cigar That's probably also illegal like telling you these people it's nuts And everyone is okay we will go along with it Of course the real reason is the tobacco lobby has got to be behind this Like hey! Hey hey hey hey We want people smoking the real deal we don't want them getting any ideas here

CHAPTER 38 / 56 Discussion

Guess the Movie, Eraserhead by David Lynch

John Dvorak presents a clip for the "Guess the Movie" segment, which is revealed to be David Lynch's 1977 surrealist film Eraserhead. He recommends the film to Adam Curry and the audience as a classic of independent cinema.

david lynch· eraserhead· guess the movie· classic film· surrealism

1:47:25 Take a little break here for another episode of guess the movie. Oh, and we still don't do we have it? We ever get a jingle for that now by the time we get a jingle or stop doing it Okay So this is a movie that they played recently and I recorded it on the DVR because I haven't seen it for years It's impossible to watch in one setting but as one of the greatest movies ever made In my opinion and here is a little clip from it see if you can guess it Mary tells me you're a very nice fellow. What do you do? Oh, I'm on vacation now. What did you do? Oh, I'm sorry... Well, I work at LaPelle's factory. I'm a printer! Henry is very clever at printing.

1:48:29 Yes, he sounds very clever. I happen to know this one because it's old enough for me to remember This is of course Blazing Saddles No! Oh no? I was so sure i was right How about Citizen Kane? No. I really don't know, he... This is the classic and i recommend it to everyone all the listeners all the producers and all men and women in on those ships on the ground boots in there a racer head David Lynch's classic Wow! I do not remember The Donkey no that was the girl who just has apparently just has fits randomly having a fit

1:49:21 And then she's cured from her fit when her mother brushes her hair. This has been so long that I saw Eraserhead, Hellraiser or was it Eraserhead? Eraserhead. I don't think I've ever seen Eraserhead. David Lynch! No, I don't think I've seen it You would enjoy it immensely. I'm sure I would. There are so many movies I want to see Oh no, I am telling you right now, you and Mickey should sit down some Friday night and just have a good time watching Eraserhead Speaking of movies, I was talking to someone who without you saying it because this person has to remain anonymous Someone who is close like super elites Like Tom Cruise in the movie business but also PR people at Goldman Sachs and so I get around. Had dinner with them What is today? It's Thursday Monday night And I really don't like going out at all on a Monday night

CHAPTER 39 / 56 Discussion

Presidential Rumors, Helle Thorning-Schmidt

John Dvorak shares a rumor from "elite" sources claiming President Obama has a romantic interest in Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt. The rumor stems from their widely publicized "selfie" during the Nelson Mandela memorial service.

barack obama· helle thorning-schmidt· denmark· selfie· rumors· secret service

1:50:23 Here is the rumor from the elites and you know, we have a lot of rumors about the president. Rumors from the elites! Apparently so we all know that you know What's-his-face Murdoch's Ex wife that she was banging Tony Blair We know that right? We got that one out. We had that one early Rumor is our president really is whenever possible, whenever he's on the road at a European thing or G7 or anything like that. That he's banging Hela Thoring-Schmidt. No! Yeah yeah I said that's what I said now. He said no no really he's banging her the selfie woman from the Mandela film. The Danish blonde?

1:51:15 You know, that's it makes in context. Occam's razor it simple right? You think yeah that makes sense Yeah you see them they're looking like two buddies and he got the glowering wife has given him the eye knowing what's going on but not being able to do much about it or can't prove it or whatever she probably has a Secret Service guys already told her well That's what the National Enquirer said that she found out through the Secret Service guy Anyway, so that's just the rumor. You heard it here first and you don't have to put in the red book because we really don't care No this is a real news We don't care but along with the elites how does it work when? Wasn't Bill Gates wasn't he busy spending his entire fortune was not the whole idea that he and Warren Buffett Gates Foundation

CHAPTER 40 / 56 Discussion

Bill Gates and Common Core, Chicagoland CNN Series

The hosts discuss Bill Gates' involvement in the Common Core education standards and his investments in private prison corporations. They also critique the CNN reality series "Chicagoland," which they view as a promotional vehicle for Mayor Rahm Emanuel and charter schools.

bill gates· common core· cnn· rahm emanuel· chicagoland· charter schools

1:52:08 Yeah, he's gonna be a philanthropist. He was going to spend all his money. But now he is putting it in profit-making operations? Is that where you're headed? Well yes! Here he is. He has reclaimed the title as the world's richest man. How does that work?! I thought he was giving it all away...I don't understand. It's very confusing to me. He's not giving it away. It's just bullcrap. Yes exactly, it's bull crap Well, the bullcrap that he's involved in is very... He has a piece of Corrective Corporation of America now. Yeah but the whole Common Core thing is what really bothers me. And I think yeah I know I think I found another common core piece of the puzzle with this really weird

1:53:02 Now we've been talking about the My Brother's Keeper, The Becoming a Man, the Match Syndicate of what do you call those? Charter Schools. The charter school thing is on a tear and everybody's all in on it and Robert Redford is producing a series on CNN, a reality series about Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel Which is, I mean it's kind of blowing my mind a little bit. Shameless! Yeah and i'll play the promo that uh see...I think it starts and so you see it on buses being promoted everywhere which means there's more money behind it than just CNN all right? CNN has money but CNN is failing

1:53:55 They really have a huge problem. So this is money being funneled in specifically to promote this, which is an agenda and if you listen to the promo... To me it sounds all that's all about charter schools. From executive producer Robert Redford We're all accountable to the children of city Chicago. Why don't none of your shits worry about my kids? Fick it all! The people of Chicago are gonna stand up and say, see ya later. See ya later! Oh, get it? We are next! Chicagoland, a new CNN original series premieres March 6th. Chicagoland presented by Allstate.

1:54:45 So Allstate has bought into this hook, line and sinker. And it's all about school kids so they... So let me get this straight. So CNN which is failing there have been a lot of stories in the media about them not even being as getting the numbers of MSNBC which are about one-fourth the numbers of Fox. Mm hmm. And they're just doing terribly and they had to fire Douche Morgan and they're gonna rethink everything. So they've decided to take the A&E AMC, the HBO route and do dramas? Yeah I guess so! Well it's probably better yeah well that's gonna get him higher ratings but you know it kind of messes up when you're trying to send pooper or two Crimea

CHAPTER 41 / 56 Discussion

Charter Schools and Prison Prep, Education Assimilation

The discussion focuses on the rise of charter schools in Chicago and New Orleans, which the hosts argue "cream" the best students from public schools. They satirically suggest that for students not in charter schools, the system acts as "prison prep" for facilities owned by Gates-backed corporations.

charter schools· prison prep· bill gates· rahm emanuel· education· chicago

1:55:32 Just apparently ratings are terrible. Oh, no he's on his way out too I'm just looking at all state common core you got to think these guys are in on this anyway so that whole thing son we know Rama Ram Emanuel He's closing schools in Chicago public schools and opening up charter schools and Charter Schools are all onboard with CCSS the Common Core State Standards And your children being assimilated Literally in front of your very eyes. They're being whoop just washed up into this thing and people are so Uninvolved with their kids they don't know I don't understand that homework is too complicated Whatever Well the other thing that's interesting is they gonna they were trying to shift And they would never go at the voucher program would which I always thought was a decent I didn't like it at first when I first heard it

1:56:25 years ago when I was a kid because i was a democrat and anything that came from the republican side was bad. Just bad, it was bad! Even in your day? It's always been amazing so anyway but it seems like a logical way to go cause you have all these different schools and money is collected and you take it spend anywhere where you want then becomes really competitive instead of kind of run by the state like it is now So these charter schools are coming they're kinda quasi-they make money somehow and they take the state money, they pay their teachers. They know how to run the operation! There's no union running a commercial operation. They know how to do it. But thing is that they have got to make the numbers look right in the way reasoned charter schools work and I think you could

1:57:13 find this backed up by some documentation, is they take the cream of the crop kids out of their regular schools. I mean this is where it's been going. This how they got their reputation you take a school that has got a bunch of dumb kids and maybe two smart kids You figure out who the two smart kids is if you're lucky, but generally speaking the teachers can figure it out. So they got a couple of the smart kids and they pull them out and then the charter schools get them from all different schools and all the other school averages go down because they took the smart kids out and the charter schools go up and everyone says charter schools work! That's right And then the colleges will start putting their endowments into those charter schools

1:57:52 Because they work. And if you look at Louisiana, New Orleans specifically the Ninth Ward everything all those schools that got wiped out by Katrina all replaced with charter schools You talk to people down there that you know the charters they talked about then you know The best economic boom ever thanks to Katrina like Katrina was the best thing could ever happen these people and to come to the Charter school people So they should have two courses instead, just close down all the non-charter schools and then like college prep which is all the charter school kids. They should have prison prep! Yes! And they should just put the kids into a... That's where you're headed! A prison because they're gonna go straight to the Corrections Corporation of America partly owned by Bill Gates

1:58:36 and Melissa Gates Foundation. And really these people, you know they're getting the experience they know how to run schools because they invest in the Corrections Corporation of America! They know how to run this thing yeah so you have this call it is prison prep schools and then you put the kids in there you show them how to stand in line to get food and bang on a bar and drink from a tin cup How to write a book on a grain of rice. How to make a shiv? Wait a minute, what do you call it prison prep schools is that what you call it? Prison Prep Is just called prison prep or what do you want us to call it? Yeah just like college prep. Prison... Because they're obviously going straight to prison because they've already been pushed aside for the other kids and they might as well get them ready

1:59:27 I don't want to go to prison. Shut up! You learn how to do tattoos? Yeah, yeah Prisonprep.com is already taken Well screw that, maybe we should do prisonprepschools.com Don't you think that would be at least worth something Might be... because it's gonna happen Nah or- How to get your kid ready for prison prep Pre-prison prep Yeah, you have to have the early- the head start Let me just see who- Headstart for losers PrisonPrep.com, who is using prisonprep.com? Oh here it is! PrisonPrep.com the leading prison prep site on the net Well hello What?! Oh... But a prison prep for what? Uh okay click here to buy prison- I didn't say anything No no no It's a parking page but its'a good parking page Has little justice hammer there Interesting You can buy it Yeah screw that im not gonna buy that from you No we're not buying anything We are not buying anything

2:00:31 Prison prep. What else? I like that, and also learn how to bang your utensils on the bench. Yeah, bang bang bang. Have to call the prison guards. Screw! Hey screw! Everyone gets to wear a name tag named Bubba. You get to wear a prison outfit which is gosh fun. You get a number... And you get to pick up litter There's a lot to do with a blunt stick Yeah. That's great! That's where the charter schools are headed, man let's just get out the middle man and just close the other schools. Put them straight through yeah put them straight through I think you're onto something. Yeah i think so. I wonder if Redford would cover anything like that? Oh please...I don't even know why he's doing it. Money? Well Ari Emanuel is of course funding the whole thing his brother. You know Ari from Super Agent Ari

CHAPTER 42 / 56 Discussion

Superfoods Marketing Hoax, Healthy Surprise Box

The hosts discuss the "superfoods" trend, noting that Dutch authorities have labeled the term a marketing hoax. They review items from a "Healthy Surprise" box, including pumpkin seeds and raw chocolate, while questioning the scientific validity of "dynamic superfoods."

superfoods· kale· marketing· netherlands· healthy surprise· chocolate

2:01:31 I was looking at the healthy surprise box. Yeah, this last box was just like all chocolate. I think that the vegans have given up on actually eating anything but kale and chocolate. No no, I found something new and then i found some other things but... ...I really was digging the garlic herb slow roasted pumpkin seeds? I don't think I had those. Very nice! Now from the chocolate box- This was the Righteously Raw Macca Bar. And I was eating it, and it tasted really good until I read the description... Our chocolate contains only the highest quality raw organic ingredients We then pair it with nature's most dynamic superfoods to create an unsurpassed gourmet experience Really? Nature's most dynamic superfoods? I don't know what a dynamic superfood is

2:02:33 It's interesting that apparently in the Netherlands, I didn't know this. The superfoods thing had already caught on and we've been tracking this as kale will be a super food. Apparently cocoa palm sugar quinoa goji beads whatever hemp kale, this was everyone was all in. I think we've talked about how the Dutch are weird on the biological stuff? Oh yes i buy biological! Everything's biological but they bought it into some... Biological?! Yeah some branding and now apparently, I don't know why this happened but some government institution said hey superfoods are bullcrap

2:03:17 And the papers are full of it. Oh Superfoods is a hoax! It's not true, it's just marketing. Hold on what was it darling? Was it no-was it a skunk? Not a skunk? Oh hold on a second but we have no gas? Why isn't it a skunk? Did you smell this smell like a skunk do I smell like a skunk thank you love all right We're all clear. We're not gonna blow up likely story alright You get droned

2:03:53 Well, that's yeah. That's the cover well We went to check and we couldn't find any leak But I guess we missed it anyway so the superfood thing is blowing up in in get my nation lowlands Everyone was just amazed that this turns out to be a marketing ploy and what wasn't true? Yeah, well. I've got a four clip Theme here little package a package. I've noticed. I wanted to point this out It's not a package because I didn't produce it But I want to point this out, the way... because again there's some global warming issues here and there once in a while. Yeah, I saw that story. And they're trying to deal with this polar vortex freezing out the East Coast and all the rest. The coldest winter we just had one of our producers say it was the coldest winter in Winnipeg since 1939 So you know really, we have no chance of ever winning this battle

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Global Warming Media Blitz, Ancient Viruses

The hosts analyze a series of news reports linking various phenomena to global warming, including the survival of destructive insects and the "revival" of a 30,000-year-old virus found in Siberian permafrost. They characterize these stories as subtle propaganda.

global warming· climate change· permafrost· siberia· virus· insects

2:04:54 Until they until the other side decides just to stop doing this because the subtle propaganda Just never warming you mean of the climate change thing. Yeah, oh yeah No We have no chance zero chance and just you can hear it in all these they take any story Of course I'm just waiting from there They're working on this thing with a starfish You know these starfish that are killing themselves like that? You just knew just wait for them to come up with global warming is their reason They just haven't been able to do it because the damn Starfish are doing this everywhere yeah but Let's listen to the global warming blitz and how it's just very subtle. They don't even make a big deal out of it, they don't condemn those who are skeptical or denialists and all the rest of it

2:05:39 With number one which would be bugs in the south. By the way this is a non sequitur story because it makes no sense Well there is an upside to the extreme cold weather that many parts of the country had this year It is decimating the population of destructive insects that cause more than two billion dollars in losses The adelgid feeds off hemlock forests in the east Gypsy moths and ash bores also kill millions of trees And all of them are dying off in large numbers because of the cold There is one downside too to all of this. The weather that may be causing the extreme cold is also making winters warmer and that's letting these insects live farther north, making more of the United States vulnerable to destruction." Okay we have noticed this of course being in the south none of our bugs here have been surviving this extreme cold weather and people like my Underwood

2:06:35 And we're happy because we have no mosquitoes. Good, move up north this is a plus for us! Okay, so then we go on to clip number two which is this is Diane story And this was the clip that every local station played This is ABC and all these clips are from ABC because ABC is all in on this stuff And she's a little more bold about it about. This is them amoeba That was discovered in Russia Oh, this is the 30 thousand year old virus didn't wait but this permafrost thing with this this is Is that the permafrost or Diane Sawyer? Which one am I playing, which one am i playing. Diane Sawyer? Diane Sawyer but uh the just says Diane Sawyer and now word of a Jurassic virus locked inside a block of ice in Siberia for 13 000 years tonight it has roared back to life after researchers let it thaw It is lethal if you're an amoeba but scientists do not believe it's a danger to humans though they warn today that global warming could revive

2:07:35 dangerous ancient diseases lurking out there in the Siberian ice. Get Diane on the phone right now and give her something to drink, that woman sounds parched So because global warming is going to kill us this way. Because global warming has gone the kid. They dug up some ice cores and found this thing it wasn't like it was melting but anyway so, but the local version of the story makes a sound as though this is happening in real time and that's the one permafrost local coverage well from insects to viruses the biggest virus ever discovered his awake and infectious after 30 thousand year nap deep inside areas permafrost and I was only infects amoebas but

2:08:15 The researchers who uncovered it are worried that other ancient viruses are locked into the permafrost and could be unleashed as a thaw. That's right, global warming! Who says it is thawing? It's global warming of course hello! So the subtext is global warming I mean, this local report was actually slicker than Diane actually coming out and saying global warming. Well, I like the...I'm glad you got a clip of it because i tried to find one and couldn't of the native advertising abusing global warming Well, are you talking about the Chipotle clip? That would be the one. Okay now this one here is the topper This is so good Global warming native...this a triple play global warming Think tank Obama bought think tank The whole thing well this was of this was a report that the company itself brought out but this is so ludicrous it's like

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Chipotle Climate Change Warning, Tim Cook and Apple

Chipotle warned investors that climate change could impact the availability of avocados, potentially leading to the removal of guacamole from their menu. The hosts also mention Apple CEO Tim Cook's comments regarding climate change and investor beliefs.

chipotle· climate change· avocados· tim cook· apple· investors

2:09:09 This is not a kind of a war. No, no this is not a warning that the stock people want to listen to as bullshit Let's play well The Chipotle restaurant chain is warning its investors about the risks of global warming in this annual report The company says climate change might eventually affect the availability of key ingredients such as avocados it cited a Livermore National Lab prediction that hotter temperatures will cause a 40% drop in in California's avocado production over the next three decades. The company says that issue could eventually drive up prices and force it to take items such as guacamole off the menu." Oh no! In 30 years, guacamole will not be... Does anyone think Chipotle is going to be in business? Talk about your forward-looking statements

2:09:53 30 years? This is what they sent to their investors in 30 years we may have to take and come on this is like Tom Collins over there at Apple Tim Collins, Tom Cook Steve, Steve, Steve Kale. Steve Cook! Steve Kale it's just my new guy Steve Kale over there at Apple saying if you don't believe in climate change take your money elsewhere What's that all about? Yeah, I don't know. And I saw at Jason, Jason Kalacanis who doesn't know him and he tweeted That's leadership! Wow! I haven't seen leadership like that since the Democratic Convention of 49. Maybe Jason was being sarcastic No no no He is all in Oh come on if you can blow Steve Kale he'll blow him Jason is nuts that way but he's schwarmy Thats what Jason does

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Native Advertising Industry, Media Corruption

The hosts examine the growth of the native advertising industry, where agencies like MediaVest create content that looks like news. They argue this corruption makes it impossible to get uncorrupted information from mainstream outlets that rely on massive ad budgets from companies like Capital One.

native advertising· huffington post· samsung· mediavest· advertising age· corruption

2:10:54 That's true. Hey, can I uh you have more of this? I like the... Nice blitz! That's my global warming report No i like it, I like it very good yeah It's funny because that's exactly the story that I skipped Like oh but of course you did the work great This is how it comes together I love that Let's um we want to do a donation segment and since We're on this native advertising which Is something we just do not participate in The Huffington Post has done A couple of these Headline, Taco Bell's new breakfast menu will unleash the waffle taco on America. Cha-ching! That's news or Ben and Jerry nails it with new core ice cream flavors We should just do the Huntington Post report because they're all in on this It's all they do

2:11:51 And you know and there's a by the way oh by the way when they did the when they did the article on the Oscars They refused. They don't won't use the term native advertising these just ever all this is product placement Oh, yeah, they won't say native advertising of course not no of course Not one of our producers just he said that his firm a Very prestigious Chicago advertising firm. This is where the headquarters are most of the guys buy and by the way, this was also Chicago The Samsung thing it was what are those guys? They're the hip and happening guys I don't know Calm media vest

2:12:29 MediaVest, that's the guys. But there's another Chicago prestigious Chicago firm who was they their the whole company is all about native advertising now That's all that they're pitching to their clients and it's the and it's great because the biggest problem we had in Advertising I wasn't advertising for quite a substantial part of my life even when I wasn't an advertising I was still a part of advertising at a certain point They had to split the, what happened in the industry is the creative split off from the media buy. So whenever you see if ever read advertising age you should just go for a lark they'll talk about the budget and the budget is always the media buying. The way it works is you get a 20 million dollar budget

2:13:15 for the media buy and the agency has a fee, and that is typically 10%, sometimes 15% of that budget. That was mostly 15 but go on... I think it got lowered. It could be And the creative would have to come out of that money Right. And so, you know of course... It's not enough money? No and there are all kinds of palms that you have to grease down the line because the media buyer for the company they're going to want sex and hookers and all kinds of stuff we've talked about those kids these days Yeah usually kids just out of school don't know anything They want tickets to the Grammys it costs a lot of money

2:13:55 And then the creative, you know this is so what are we gonna do? We... What are we going to do with the creative and who's gonna pay for it because The agency doesn't know how to charge for it. Now all of a sudden they're setting up these and if you're a writer by the way Get in because this is where the money is going to be made They're going to be building- we're gonna have a team for you listen Samsung We have a team for you, we're going to be writing all these great articles. Then we're gonna go out and do our media buy right? And we are going to write this... I mean here's our line up Here is our slate They even calling it slate like the movie business Here is our slate of articles for you! Here is our slate of videos that were going to making Oh yes! New York Times will put them right on the page It's basically becoming little creative modules With their byline With bylines oh yeah they get credit

2:14:55 And it's great, the whole industry. Now it's not good if you actually want some information that is uncorrupted. No! If you want good solid information that is actually... Forget about it. Uncorrupted is the only way to put it or incorruptible You're not going to get from any of these places It's like Capital One what's in your wallet story Your debt isn't going to play on any network because I don't even know what their budget is. Is it 100 million dollars or more? They were paying Alec Baldwin 5 million a year, that's just one pitch guy! Yeah So yeah you gotta think their budget is over 100 million. Yeah its huge and thats alot of bottom line money for any network or newspaper magazine so they are not gonna mess with Capital One No Because Capital One...you can do it You can go out an say anything about anybody but then the plug gets pulled

2:15:50 You get called into the office by the suits and say, what are you doing to us? Can't handle this. Why did you do this? Why did you write this it's not a necessary story to write Well I thought it would be protecting the public because it seems like a scam to me if he'd do with that What that Adam Curry said? If don't care about Adam Curry or the scam or anything these guys are big Advertisers and we don't want stories about them no you're fired yep Yeah, and it's how if you really want to... I mean just what you do with it. You just blanket the market with your stories Blanket them

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First World War Propaganda, Media Truth

A clip from a documentary on Free Speech TV describes how the British government used propaganda films like "The Battle of the Somme" to hide the reality of the First World War from the public. The hosts use this to emphasize the importance of independent, listener-supported media.

world war i· propaganda· battle of the somme· david lloyd george· free speech tv

2:16:30 And no one will ever do a negative story about you. That's why you don't hear that much about Monsanto or GE, Or Archer Daniel Midlands Corporation because they sponsor all the public radio stuff. Yeah they're smart? Exactly I mean that's where the smart guys all are They're manipulating the media so the public gets nothing...I got this clip that i want to play before we go into the donation section Now I was actually setting up my own clip but go ahead is it a donation clip It's a kind of donation clip. This is the news then and now good lead-in clip, and I want to mention this was there was some guy did a documentary on free speech TV and this little lead in to the documentary i thought it was the price of admission because it kinda says it all that why its important that people out there support The No Agenda Show. Its serious that we get continuous support from producers and listeners at this show

2:17:23 This was the slaughter known as the First World War. 16 millions died and 21 million were wounded at the height of the carnage, The Prime Minister of Great Britain David Lloyd George had a private chat with the editor of The Guardian C P Scott if people really knew the truth said the prime minister the war would be stopped tomorrow but of course they don't know and can't know The British public were desperate for real news. More than half the nation flocked to see an official propaganda film, The Battle of the Somme. Cameras were so unusual that young troops would shout, Hello Mum! as they marched to the front

2:18:12 And they were heard crying for their mothers as they died on the battlefield. This was almost never reported." What a nice piece of uplifting news, John! That's fantastic! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab On no agenda in the morning Alright alright alright We'll start with a theme So we got a donation from Stephen Pelsmacher for $123.33, our Grand Duke from Belgium and France. ITM gentlemen thanks for so many laughs and insightful analysis again on the best podcast in the universe would highly appreciate some divorce karma if you're willing to hand it out

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Listener Donations and Karma, Chemtrail Monitoring

The hosts read donations from listeners, including "divorce karma" for a Grand Duke in Europe. One donor from Chicago mentions monitoring "chemtrails" and sends "hooker blow money" purportedly from the Silk Road.

donations· karma· divorce· chemtrails· chicago· silk road

2:19:14 Keep up the great work. Take care." I'm just... do i have anything for divorce? I think any old karma would help yeah you're probably right on that of course sir Pelsmachers here you go You've got karma It's possible that the Putin plus the Karma might be divorce karma oh okay well if i had known that, I would have had it all queued up but it would sound go something like this You've got karma. Alright, that's divorce karma then good okay let's hope I hope it worked you know our Grand Duke has been in this divorce can't just chop the woman's head off already? Yeah you're in Europe! Come on you're the Grand Duke of Belgium and France off with their head I say

2:20:04 Morgan Corkill in Brisbane, Queensland has a $111.11 in. Making it rain! He's with Tracy and he likes the comedy show. It was his first time he donated I guess so we're gonna read a few of these since were short today. Dee Douching will give him George Clooney to the head and all that karma later in the show D-douching would be useful. D-douching? Okay... You've been d-douched! George Clooney is a spy I figured i'd do it anyway Josh Mandel in Greenville, South Carolina $102 and 3 cents He's coming to Austin next week Yeah Oh that's right we have South by Southwest

2:20:50 Yeah, yeah I've been sending you stuff. Oh yeah, yeah. I think i'm coming down! I'm gonna come down to South by Southwest. Oh please... No your not. I am, I'll be there tweeting You're not going to be here. Yes oh im sorry, yeah you'll be here tweeting for sure So if you see me say hi I'll probably have to stop by the house there and cook for you. Yeah, well please that'd be beautiful yeah, yeah And then I'll be tweeting and floating around and going at parties Sounds like a really good use of my time now hell's side Side side said side in Nashville Tennessee $100

2:21:32 He does have a little comment. He's born in Egypt, came to the US at age 30 been here for 20 years not sure if the U.S has changed dramatically in those twenty years I just don't understand what was going on then but I do now to some extent thanks of this show found your show couple years ago and since it all like listen to during my commute all I listened you used to flip between Fox News and CNN before that but now I gag after 10 minutes either one cancelling cable altogether Alright, and we have a this is a This was a karma for sons George and Joshua. They turned 21 We don't it just never he never asked for a birthday call up But we don't have any birthday calls can we put them on that's weird how come they're not on the list? It doesn't say anything then to the word birthday is what you look for when you do a search And there's no doesn't say birthday Yeah

2:22:25 I mean if you want Eric to read through all the things. Oh, there's so many of them! Oh my goodness! If we could have blown through it we wouldn't have caught it So hard... okay. Well you can send him an email. I send it all the time Okay good But he has no problem billing me and then like oh you promote the bags We do promote the bag. Yes, that's what I mean That's why did I promote the bag if i'm not just you want to put him on the list or not? I'm writing it down two is what are his son's names What are his son's names? Joshua and george joshua and george they must be twins Turn 21 all right. So we're on the list back tank a hundred dollars from la jolla california Now we get some karma at the end eric wood exeter rhode island 100

2:23:14 Long time boner and he's still a douche. He says Charles Pearl in Chicago, Illinois $100 he sent a note in because email this hundred dollars in mm-hmm And I wouldn't normally we don't read notes necessarily under 200 but unless they're interesting or their mail then or something This one this is like this guy the only reason I'm doing it's cuz got chem trails a big picture of chem trails and then on the back a note monitoring chem trail some disguise in Chicago From Fiji FEMA regions 5 mm-hmm, and here's my hooker blow money from the Silk Road for the week. I got hit in the mouth from show five five three very nice

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Associate Executive Producers, 69 Dudes Segment

The hosts acknowledge a large group of $69 donors, a recurring segment known as "69 Dudes." They also read $50 donations, including a request for "brain cancer karma" for a listener's brother and a donation from Sir Alan Bean in Oakland.

donations· 69 dudes· netherlands· brain cancer· napa valley· oakland

2:23:56 Chemtrail thing at the end. Oh, he wants a little chem- I can do a little chemtrail on it. Chemtrail! There you go. Sir Dennis of Beaverton 999999999999 Christian Zachman 7777 from Lost Wages Nevada Zim Juzukal and here we go 69! 69 dudes! We actually, after mentioning we're only getting two and two and two. We got a bunch. Yeah? Uh...we got Sir Craig Porter from Jacksonville Florida Amanda Zink in Kenosha Wisconsin This shows you how behind people are sometimes I think people are 2-3 episodes behind. I don't understand

2:24:34 I do. Just skip it and catch up! I know, I don't get it but people... They like it. This show is so good that they don't even care what's... It's like being at a dinner and you take the bread and you sop up all the goo and stuff, the sauce Very good analogy That's our show You can imagine some guy sitting there going like What? The world burned up?! But I didn't know I was two episodes behind Elizabeth Borazan in Tucson Arizona I didn't mention Amanda. Richard Chow in Fullerton, California Paul Vela in Milton Keynes Buckinghamshire And that's it! 69! 69 DUDES! Don't get too excited! It was the amazing free Wi-Fi no agenda Wi-Fi at the Sheepole Airport Hey hey! and so he gave us this money to pay for that service Nice

2:25:32 Mark Khrushchev. Kraus, Krauss. Krauss. He has a famous last name by the way Is it Krauss? Yes you would maybe recognize as Cruyff. Cruyff? Number 14 one of the best football soccer players in the universe in the 70s 80s so Johan Krauss this is Mark Krauss. I came here for 69 bucks from Antwerp Belgium okay that's his third 69 donation Why does Adam have such a grudge against the Netherlands? Grudge? I don't have a grudge. I love it when he's sharp and drives into details, but I noticed that Adam is reporting about the Netherlands as often over-the-top and slanted How about...I grew up there

2:26:13 How about I know a lot of their you know it in my it hurts nobody his radio station got burned down there And he's thrown off the air that guy knows so now this and is which Is his wife his first wife had a bunch of goo on her butt because of some creepy prince? Told the story yeah, I'm gonna tell it again That's very good So that station that burned down, that guy now the Secretary General of Justice is now in court for pedo-bear crimes. Like I said 10 years ago... No what is it? 7 years 6 years ago when they burned the radio station down took away the license fired me unceremoniously called me a crazy kook

2:27:07 Well, at least you're stuck with it. Martin Fellner in Austria Wait! You missed Jeffrey Lehnchus Oh, Jeffrey Lehnchus in Helvetslu It sounds like he had a stroke. Hella food slouse! Okay, we do have a douchebag call out for Ronald Russo. Please call out Ronald Russo for being a non-donating douchebag. Double doucher. Petria Stamets. Martin Fellner

2:27:47 Didn't I say Martin Fellner? You didn't do his thing right. Do him again! Martin Fellner in Austria. There you go Cashes savings account and...I got a cut or we got it cut, you gotta cut He's given the level of $100 dollars I believe I deducing would be no, no deducing yet Petria Stamate, Stammet, Stammit, Stammett I don't see Petria Stammette, Stammett Petria Stammett from New Jersey Petria Stammett, Barleton Chris Davidson in Bella Vista, Arkansas. Double nickels on the dime? Double nickels on the dime keeping it alive keeping it alive nobody does double nickels on the dime anymore except yeah I said Sergeant Fred. Sergeant Fred does too he's only two people left Eric Hochul in Berlin Deutschland

2:28:40 He says, aside note the correct pronunciations for Iran Iraq and now Kiev seems to be all correct German pronunciations. Hmm we also got a correction for Xinjiang that place in China yeah Xinjiang Xinjiang Xinjiang you gotta have the cadence right Xinjiang Xinjiang Xinjiang Xinjiang Sir Todd Brink New Berlin, Wisconsin $50.65 Got a karma at the end He wanted specifically he wanted to have cancer Oh he has a fuck cancer I'll give him one Poor guy Yeah Well who was it for? His brother Jason Ugh! I gotta know who to direct it as Brain Cancer Oh Jesus I hate that shit Brain Cancer Karma Brain Cancer I hate that Use his cell phone less

2:29:39 Herb Lamb. Sugar Hill George is also named after a famous vineyard in the Napa Valley, $50 and 33 cents. Stuart Fawcett Liverpool Merseyside It's also named after a famous gang The Lam Gang? No the Sugar Hill Gang Oh yeah that would be I was thinking herb lamb it's the herb lamb vineyard uh Stuart Fawcett in Liverpool David Zinn in Chicago, Illinois. These are all $50 now. David Zinn and Patricia Worthington in Miami Beach... Miami not Miami Beach Florida Gerald Friedlanski in Montreal Quebec Matthew Stevens North Richmond Hills Texas Adam Herbert in South Windsor Connecticut Bart DeWitt in Oldenzaal

2:30:29 Bart DeVit and Oldenzahl. There you go. 50. Christopher Walker, parts unknown. And let me scroll down is there any left? A couple. Yep Scott S Brooke in Royal Oak Michigan Matthew Janiszewski in Chicago Illinois The Bears' Matrick Maycomb in Mount Vernon, New York who's in again. Great thanks Patrick Dan Grabb in Lansdale Pennsylvania and finally our old buddy Sir Alan Bean here in Oakland Oakland, Oak Town California those are our donors for show five nine seven got to show 600 coming up if you guys have the Wherewithal you might want to think of different kinds of donations and celebrate that show go to Dvorak org slash na Dvorak dot-org slash

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Show 600 Preparation, Zohydro Drug Approval

As they approach their 600th episode, the hosts begin discussing Zohydro, a powerful new painkiller approved by the FDA. They note the media coverage of the drug's potency and the public health concerns surrounding its release.

show 600· zohydro· fda· painkillers· vicodin· oxycontin

2:31:22 Well, we got the big one today. The big one exactly that now he'll snog else I say Happy birthday to his sons Joshua and George they turned 21 glad we caught up happy birthday from your buddies here at the best podcast in And we have no nights no changes No titles know nothing Because we got no native advertising. No, native advertising would save the day! It sure would... And it's gonna save the country

2:32:03 financially and it also save the country from riots or protests or anybody saying no to the government. We'll be all lockstep in agreement with the police state, security state and all the guys that are listening in can have the best stock tips in the world and nobody cares. Yeah this doesn't seem like a problem to me. Nah what difference does it make? Since I've been tracking at these Zohydro I got a lot of notes about Zohydro. Zohydro is the new crazy drug, all the kids are talking about it, all the cool kids are gonna take it. Cool! Now this is from NPR so we've already tracked Forbes magazine and what was that TV thing we had from last week?

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Zohydro Media Coverage, Opioid Epidemic

NPR reports on the controversy surrounding the FDA's approval of Zohydro, which is significantly more powerful than Vicodin. Public health advocates are urging the FDA to withdraw approval, citing the ongoing epidemic of opioid addiction and overdose deaths.

zohydro· npr· fda· opioid· addiction· vicodin

2:32:48 I can't remember. Well anyway, it's native advertising and the way they're doing it is telling you about all the things that can do everything... It's really all of the features of this drug are being reported as news This drug has been, you know the approval was more than several years ago but of course it's hitting the market just moment in just days so now all of a sudden we have all this news and this is I think the point of the newsletter that you sent out. We don't know anymore if this is native advertising or if this is truly a health issue that we need to be so afraid of because

2:33:25 Because I don't hear people talking about Drano under the sink and all other kinds of horrible products around the house that children could take and die from. Yeah, Drano's the best example! Or just any of this but Zohydro NPR, they're your man. The Food and Drug Administration is under enormous pressure to change its mind about a powerful new prescription painkiller. Powerful? Powerful! 42 public health groups are urging the FDA to withdraw its support of Zohydro. The drug is similar to OxyContin except it comes in significantly higher doses. Now come on...

2:34:03 This is new because they were talking about it being Vicodin in higher doses, now it's Oxycontin in higher doses. The FDA approved Zohydro last year despite its own advisory panel voting against it and critics are among other things raising questions about that approval process. And here's Laura Sullivan reports When Zohydro was released next month It will be one of the most powerful prescription painkillers on the market Now this story... we're 30 half-a minute into the story We don't know anything about the groups or whatever. We keep hearing coming out next month 10 times as powerful as heroin. Its highest dosage will contain 5 to 10 times as much hydrocodone, as the widely used Vicodin. The drug company's literature says an adult could overdose on two capsules. So just take one!

2:34:52 A child could die from swallowing just one pill. Yeah People are going to die from this drug Oh, man I want it now don't you want a job look at that sound bite? That's all the guy said Let's see we Swallowing just one pill people are going to die from this drug Dr. Michael Kourome is the director of health research for Public Citizen. We are in the midst of a public health crisis, there's an epidemic of opioid addiction resulting in thousands of deaths and the last thing we need now is another high potent high dose long acting opioid drug, Zohydro that will simply feed the epidemic I'm sorry he just gave me everything at that right there? That's the bumper sticker

2:35:42 It's high, what did he say? It's high dosage. High... it gave the name everything Long acting opioid drug Zohydro, basically feed the epidemic. Nice! Overdose deaths and addiction rates from prescription painkillers similar to Zohydro have grown dramatically in recent years. Carome and 41 other health care advocates are asking the FDA to remove its approval of the drug. Yeah there's no details on that. That's all bullshit. Zohydro is a crushable pill Ah here is the new information that had not gotten out yet with the original native advertising it's a crushable pill

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Zohydro Marketing and Abuse, Crushable Pills

The hosts analyze the marketing of Zohydro, focusing on the fact that the pill is "crushable," making it easier to abuse by snorting. They suggest the drug company, Zogenics, is benefiting from the media attention while claiming to monitor for abuse.

zohydro· zogenics· marketing· crushable· addiction· webmd

2:36:20 This is very important. Oh, this is good they probably somebody went back here's the meeting here's the meeting Hey hey who's got these oh hydro account? I do I got it a Pete what's uh what's up with this man the clients up my ass up my ass because you didn't place everywhere no but the whole point Is that addicts need to know you can crush to snort crush to snort? Oh It was not in the spec Are you kidding me? How many clients have we done this for we all know the the clients their customer wants to snort this stuff crush to snore if they're too stupid to put it in the spec for the advertising campaign. I need a make good i need to make good Go past what they're already telling us to do. I need to make good can you can you who do, you know Can you call someone I need national exposure for this thing Who can you call?

2:37:13 I got people i can call. Where? She's got the rolodex You've got someone, how about... We'll do another round it's no big deal It's that easy we're already short A lot of the inventory is out there waiting to be used anyway Get me something on NPR so I can send them an audio clip By the way we are charging a little extra for this bull crap That's okay well just put into creative Alright That means it's snortable, as some experts say. More prone to abuse than other drugs like... Oh really? Some experts like your customers! Like the new versions of Oxycontin which are no longer crush-able You see we got downplayed the competition because that new version of oxycontin is no longer crush-able

2:37:54 How long can we keep this going, this crushable stuff? The drug company Zogenics is marketing the drug. There's a lot of misinformation being put out there by people... Get the client in on the story! Can we get the marketing guy? Yeah it's easier. They'd be glad to get on the radio. Can we arrange that with your NPR contacts so they can actually put the maker of the product into the ad? Definitely! That's the no-brainer part of it. There's a lot of misinformation being put out there by people who don't have all the facts. Yeah, like those crazy conspiracy guys! Dr. Brad Gaylor is the company's chief medical officer. He says they will... Chief Medical Officer? There's a title I want for my party planning business! CMO. I'm chief medic- That's my new thing John. What do you do? I'm chief medical officer of The No Agenda Show

2:38:48 I like it. I asked you, i'm asking you right now. How does it dissolve in the stomach if its non-crushable? Well apparently... Then it's dissolvable! If it is dissolvable then you can dissolve and then dry the liquid and get the powder right there. It's a no brainer. Its too much work! Maybe.. The new oxycontin is non crushable

2:39:25 So here I'm looking at, I put in Zohydro's too easy to abuse critics say which is a sentence from one of the press releases and here it is. WebMD WDRB CNN dot com Drugs Forum Stepping Stone Center CBS 12 WPEC TV 12 It's like this is everywhere this story Yeah, it's a beautiful job. I mean this is bonanza job. A non-crushable version of Zohydro in three years and the company will closely monitor prescription trends for abuse but he says millions legitimately need this drug Okay listen let's call this meeting again i got a real problem

CHAPTER 52 / 56 Discussion

Benjamin Netanyahu and Barack Obama Meeting, Jewish State

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu met with President Obama, emphasizing the need for Palestinians to recognize Israel as a "Jewish state." Netanyahu argued that strength is the only guarantee of peace in the "turbulent and violent" Middle East.

benjamin netanyahu· barack obama· israel· palestine· jewish state· security

2:40:08 The client wants a different payoff. They want the Oreos pay off we got for them on CNN! How come we can't get that for them here? What's wrong with you people?! Don't you remember what you did? What? Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine Now that's a pay-off Well, that's a different story too We can't do that Not gonna happen We'll get ya coverage, nationwide coverage We'll take it right... Get it in Canada Oh man. Emphasize Florida. Yeah, BB Netanyahu was visiting with the president did you people that there were so much yeah I saw some pictures of you know is the President got something he's got easy got hemorrhoids or something he seems to be sitting in a chair all the time all the time and of course he lets a baby talk gee what would his message be

2:41:06 I don't know. I find Bibi Netanyahu to be the most annoying person ever Well, we know it we've already locked on to his message and he's just here to get more of it out This president you rightly said that Israel the Jewish state is lightly Jewish state realization of the Jewish people self-determination But now he's laying out he's rolling out the whole pitch Self-determination a little old the whole pitch though in our ancestral homeland So the Palestinians expect us to recognize a Palestinian state for the Palestinian people, a nation-state for the Palestinian people. I think it's about time they recognized a nation-state for the Jewish people! We've only been there 4,000 years." Now it's 4000. It went from 3800 to 4000. And I hope President Abbas does this as I hope that he'll take seriously Israel's genuine security needs

2:42:03 Because, as you know and I think everybody does in the Middle East which is definitely the most turbulent and violent part of the Earth. The only peace that will endure is a peace that we can defend And we have learned from our history Jewish history but I think from general history That the best way to guarantee peace is to be strong And that's what the people of Israel expect me to do. To stand strong against criticism, against pressure... Stand strong to secure the future for one and only Jewish state." Okay! Okay we get it! Jewish State! What is the point of this meeting? To say Jewish State a whole bunch of times?! And clearly neither of these guys are in on what really going on. Paul Leez you know your not news

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Public Relations Industry Tactics, Agency Transitions

John Dvorak describes common tactics used by PR agencies, such as assigning top talent for the first few months before transitioning the account to junior staff. The hosts discuss the consolidation of the industry under giants like WPP and Omnicom and the shift toward native advertising.

public relations· advertising· edelman· wpp· omnicom· native advertising

2:43:03 When the only time anyone's heard of you was on the No Agenda podcast. That's for sure! Come on, you're not doing your job... You gotta get it on that Zohydro campaign people I think it's time that Israel spend some real marketing money. They're spending marketing money, but their problem is they think their agency is stale! You know this is the thing I always tell companies... We've got to go in with some new creative and steal the account This is how it always works. Public relations folks hate me because I say this commonly So if someone says, well I have a PR agent what do you think of him? Well let me give my opinion about the public relations game

2:43:43 You hire somebody and you get your best work from them in the first three months. They take the good guy that they put on your campaign, and I guarantee within three months if not sooner they pull the guy... Now wait a minute at first there's the introduction around month two Hey! I want to introduce you to Tom over here He is coming along he is just going to observe for a little bit And we're not charging you for the extra guy on the account We just wanted Tom to kind of get comfortable with the account And then, of course we had the transition in month three from to Tom. That's what all that is. Some of these guys are specialists at it, they have a lot of meetings or write a lot of memos or on digs give you a lot of statistics and it looks like they're doing something no fire the agency in 60 days and hire a new agency and tell them that your didn't like your other agency they suck they didn't do a very good job here's what they got for us can you do better oh yeah we can put our best people on it as when I put their best people on it and you get some some good publicity

2:44:54 and hire a third one. Now this doesn't works less and less because all these guys have consolidated so you now, you know the agencies all work for the same WPP Omnicon or whatever. Omni-com with a M. Icon is what it really is. I guess why you can't stop saying it. So they will get the word now if you're gonna do this fucking guy he's like firing and hiring and firing and hiring, he stinks! This guy is gonna use your best people up and then just throw you away like a wet dish rag screw him Don't take the account, tell them that you thought they were doing a fine job and they should stay with them. And now you can't do that so much but there's enough little independent guys out there who can do it with them if you find some that are talented You could probably do it through about five There is also the classic I'm starting my own agency and here's Tom who will be replacing me But I'd love to have coffee with you

2:45:54 That's the classic where you steal your client. Yeah, that's less and less because of these big companies that own all these guys. They pay well! Now that I think about it... Of course once again we're stupid because we haven't even talked today once about the fact that we only... Well, you did briefly but were only three episodes away from 600 The big 600 shows. Holy crap! But we are missing such an opportunity, we would be so good... You're a great writer I'm a pretty good producer and we should just be doing native advertising campaigns all the time

2:46:33 We can bring ourselves to it. That's the problem Oh, well I'd have to give up everything else depends on the money You know I don't know Here's a way i'm looking at because I know A guy who was an editor at a major publication who quit To work for Edelman to do native advertising writing yes yeah Well, have you seen girls the HBO hit series girls a couple times? All right. What is what is the The Rubin s girl she's now working at native advertising. It's what he does I didn't follow that Yeah, yeah Leah whatever name no That's not her name. Yeah Lee as a real name isn't it? She's up. She's the producer Yes, you do. Yeah, but I don't think that's a real name. Yes, Lea. No, it's not. Yeah, not leah Yeah, Leah. Now it's Nancy

CHAPTER 54 / 56 Discussion

Fifth Anniversary Request, Sunday Show Break

Adam Curry requests a Sunday off in April to celebrate his fifth anniversary with his wife, Micky, in Mexico. He suggests a clip show could fill the slot, noting that they have worked continuously through previous vacations and travel.

anniversary· mexico· vacation· sunday show· clip show· micky curry

2:47:19 Maybe our stage name is Nancy, but her name's Leah. I think...I could be wrong. Whatever the case who cares? I have an important question to ask you That's this is what's going on This is the whole world being taken over by this crap They promised it these PR people used to gloat about everything's not from us anyway So haha! There it is all right. I have a serious question before we end the show Publishers are responsible go on alright Miss Mickey and I will be celebrating our fifth anniversary together in April. Since we started our relationship, the only time we have been away together not you know just for a rest hasn't been never it's always been... Bull crap? No it's not bull crap. You went to the island at one time? What island? Some Island where you did the show from there?

2:48:13 Yeah, but I thank you. That's my point we're doing the show We have not actually had you do you mean and not do the show? I'm asking if we can have a meeting about having one Sunday off I don't know if you can handle it. You're the one that really needs to do the show listen five She wants to take me to this place in Mexico whoo, I know donkey show I'm hoping Blue Fox I believe And she's looked at it and because of, you know... It's only an hour-and-a-half to fly to Mexico but you can't fly on a Sunday after the show. Right! And it's all really complicated and then to get back... So do you want to take show 600 off? No no I'm requesting a meeting if it will be possible to have Sunday April 20th off now

2:49:17 I have to explain, five. You know what five is? Five is a significant anniversary it's wood! Probably the last wood you'll get right The material writes itself in this particular case so if you don't mind I'd like to discuss we might because we would actually like to leave on Friday and go for a couple days through the Sunday not have to work not have to do the show Just think about it. I'm thinking, you know? It's like this is the one time in five we really need some we need some us time Yeah okay yeah well chat You know i'm amenable to different approaches to this and maybe our clip guy can do put his clip show together that wouldn't hurt yeah just like to run something Well also thought maybe if we took one Sunday off people would realize how crappy it is if were not there

2:50:16 Well, the clip show would probably make up for it. I don't think people should begin to realize such things because i'm not here to torment and torture our contributors producers and listeners No no, I understand But you know, we've done Hot Pockets tours. Yeah I know we've done a lot! We've continuously worked during the...you know during vacations. You'll-I will say i got off one show off for the wedding. Yeah that's necessary but you know Miss Mickey is working really hard she's done her art show here and she needs a break and she's trying to make up the shortfall with selling stuff so

2:50:54 That was it. Alright, well I consider it a threat but okay go on Hey you want to come? No! I do not want to go to Mexico You don't wanna see the donkey show? Ahhhh... The Donkey Show There's other aspects of that show that are apparently quite entertaining All right, wrap us up here Jean-Claude. What you got? You want to play one to get out or do you want to go I can play the one I think We can play this no, I think well we gotta wrap up of Venezuela people want to talk about that It's pretty good 24 but I don't wanna play that I'd rather play a weekend real talking about Venezuela folks eventually ABCs report on the Queen ah

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British Royal Family Finances, Buckingham Palace Repairs

ABC News reports that the British royal family's public accounts are depleted, leaving Buckingham Palace in need of significant repairs. The report suggests the Queen may need to increase tourism revenue to cover the costs of maintaining the royal properties.

queen elizabeth ii· buckingham palace· royal family· finances· tourism· abc news

2:51:38 Ah, this is gonna be good. Is this a Diane Sawyer? Oh yes! Well hello that's not just ABC... That's Diane! And someone got a kind of royal reality check today the Queen of England and her family A scolding new report warning them to start tightening the belt They have apparently run through a fortune Here's ABC's Terry Moran Think of the British royal family and you think of opulence, grandeur and magnificent events. You'd never believe they're nearly broke! But they are! Well not them personally but their royal household The official department that runs all their palaces and properties 360 buildings thousands of employees A scathing report in the British Parliament found that the Queen's public accounts are down to less than a couple million bucks

2:52:33 Privately, she's still fabulously rich but her public finances and her palace are a mess. Buckingham Palace looks great on the outside but behind the scenes this place is in desperate need of repairs The roof is leaking central heating needs replacing and chunks of stone are falling off the building endangering members of the royal family The report demanded that the Queen and her family tighten their belts and find ways to make more money, like by bringing more paying tourists into Buckingham Palace. Only open 78 days a year now In contrast the White House is open all year round The Queen's defenders say the Royals make Britain billions every year in tourism And that Elizabeth herself is a frugal housekeeper At night for looking around the palace and if there are some lights on she goes and switches them

2:53:21 She could always hock the jewelry. Is that ABC World News tonight? Yes! That's great, well... That was native advertising if I ever heard it It probably was and we now know that the Queen switches off the lights herself Yeah, i've been to one of her palaces, I agree its a dump Is it? Its a dump Really yeah, they have a towel dispenser on the wall so you can't rip it off. You know can't take soaps or anything They got no fuel grab souvenirs left and right if they go inside isn't that kind of point Yeah, I should have this place sooner meant to be stolen. That's what you're supposed to honestly stolen from the Queen's Palace exactly

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Show Outro, Sunday Episode Preview

The hosts sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, previewing their next show on Sunday. They remind listeners to visit their website for "unfettered" information and conclude with a satirical Joe Biden audio clip.

adam curry· john c dvorak· show 600· ukraine· venezuela· joe biden

2:54:04 Alright everybody, we will have another show on Sunday and I'm sure we'll have lots more to see. We have some entries into the Red Book about what will happen with Ukraine... Russia... Venezuela. Skull & Bones? Yeah, Venezuela exactly. Skull & Bones The Yalies and the Kali's And you know that you can always come to No Agenda to get that unfettered free of bullcrap native advertising It's everywhere now. It's a plague, it is. Here in FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star state Austin Texas In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're three shows away from show 600 I'm John C Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda

2:55:02 I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen.