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00:00 They talk about it quite a bit, but the one you want to listen to is The Girl on Al Jazeera. Yeah! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. And Sunday September 15th 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 548 This Is No Agenda Looking at the puts for the UNG here in the Travis Heights hideout, the capital of the Grove Star State. Austin Tejas! Good morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm nine dog biscuits over two. I'm John C. Dvorak. Spoken like a guy who's on ham radio all the time Nine dog biscuits over 2 which means great signal can't hear ya. Nice one

00:48 Doesn't matter because you're not a reporter either. Apparently not. Did you see this? The Senate now agrees science is in Yeah, people have been sending us a lot of email about this So this is the turn for the worst for the entire country And this was predicted I mean we've talked about there being licenses Oh no, no We predicted You did yes Go ahead Actually wait to be... Not to toot my own horn cause I don't like doing that Well hold on I'll shoot it for ya Thank you, but even before we started began this show I Had written about this because in fact. I think of did This commonly saying that the whole light once the blogging came in I'm to do all ideas to screw Thank you. That's very good to screw writers

01:35 Yeah, or just anyone who has something to say. And next on that same train station on the same railway boom licensing That's right, that's right. Licensing for being a journalist so if you had not heard about this This is the media shield law that we've been following and I guess it went into committee at the Senate and as this...this has got to be Schumer right? Chuck Schumer Let's see here we go so the committee approved the overall bill now We've discussed this bill and I put another copy of it in the show notes at five four eight dot any show notes calm So you can take a look at it essentially? You can be a covered journalist And of course, it's just a short hop from cover journalists to journalist and you can be that if you're an employee an independent contractor or agent of an entity that disseminates news or

02:27 information. But you have to have been employed for one year within the last 20... what is it? The last 20 weeks or three months within the, oh yeah! For one year within last twenty or three months within the last five years. This is like all these stipulations. It's like you're not an official journalist You can't report on the news. And you only work in two months. Two months?! You don't count And there's this outfit called, I don't know if you've ever heard of these um this thing the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. Are you familiar with this outfit? You know how i'm always finding these things! Here we go uh...you can find it at rcfp dot org It is a non-profit association dedicated to providing free legal assistance to journalists since 1970

03:16 I'm quite surprised you're not a member of this, John. You being a journalist... I'm joining today! So if you look at the... why don't you go ahead and take a look at About Us so you can see who's in this fine outfit? And it is a who's-who Let's see, let's look at the fellowships. Where was the steering committee? That's what you want about us steering committee. So we have Sandra Torrey of USA Today Pierre Thomas of ABC News We've got Wolf Blitzer of CNN so this is every single mainstream talking head You can imagine is on the steering committee and here is their response to The Media Shield law

04:00 We are pleased to see that the Judiciary Committee passed this bill. Andrea Mitchell It goes a long way towards ensuring that reporters will be protected from subpoenas for their confidential information and sources. Judy Woodruff It's not a perfect bill, but it tries to cover a broad array of reporters. Next name? There's no other really big names. That was it! While it is not as inclusive that we would like, It is not nearly as limited in that area as previous attempts at a federal shield law have been. Okay Final paragraph, it is still important that we work with Congress and the administration to make sure journalists' records are not scooped up in broad surveillance programs and that Justice Department attorneys respect the rights of reporters but today's action is a significant step in the right direction. And I would refer all these talking heads, these big names like Andrea Mitchell, Wolf Blitzer

04:59 Who else do we have? Pierre Thomas. Pierre Thomas, ABC News! I say why don't you take a look at the amendment number two of the Constitution Bill of Rights that stuff You might have heard of it Congress shall make no law That's all you need to know you don't even have to go any further This is a law but you know they're elitist pricks that's why they like it Yeah then we can... No no no It's old media trying to keep out new media so it's all there is to it Isn't that the same thing Yeah, I guess they are. They're elitists and they think that their poop don't stink. They own the place! But this is like... you know that this is only the beginning and then it'll be covered journalists and then it'll be licensed journalists. It's incredibly short-sighted. We might as well put up a website now

05:54 Licensedjournalist.com Well we have podcastlicense.com, we have that. Journalists license? I don't know if we can get that. It needs to be jazzy or it can't be dull Maybe we could just make it a part of www.drunkuglychicks.com Wait! It was ugly drunk chicks dot com Ugly drunk chicks Yeah but you have to do the www first Which is crazy So yeah, so this is great news for everybody who likes living in a police state and Stasi state. And there's just of course there are no actual journalists that I can tell fighting this or see the evil in it. No all these journalists that seem to be on this list are all talking head kind of meat puppets Yeah! I don't see them doing any work Has Glenn Greenwald spoken out against this?

06:51 I don't think he's aware, uh he's too busy writing speeches for other people. Yeah you know a lot of people weighed in we were talking about the Joseph was it no Jacob Appelbaum acceptance speech on behalf of Edward Snowden i'm sorry Mr Snowden in Germany for being whistleblower of the year I mean, first the Webby's now Whistleblower of the Year. Yes right there! They should have... same group do them. They can combine the awards don't you think? Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Webby and Whistleblower of The Year Awards here to present Kevin Stacey He is always at all these award shows. You notice that? Yeah well he doesn't have anything else to do And anything like webby, web based he is there

07:45 So a lot of people are saying that maybe it wasn't Glenn Greenwald who wrote that speech as you identified Maybe it was the other guy the The Washington Post guy no What's his name again bill? Why would it be him he makes zero sense. I don't know He's not button and everything you just did is just doing this thing, and you know there's a paid stooge Do volunteer work? He's a covered journalist damnit He's all in, he's tweeting all the time. You just had to tweet today just before you tweeted. Actual foreign policy expert Andrew Bacevich that guy we talked about already on New York Times Foreign Policy Expert David Brooks so Salon Magazine apparently does a hit piece on David Brooks who we've identified as well probably an intelligence community member at some level right

08:44 because of some of the stuff he says which is just completely off the wall and it sounds like somebody's agenda. So I guess Salon Magazine decided to go after him as being always wrong. Well remember, Salon has to have some kind of agenda It is financed on an annual basis with $4 million by the president's daddy who is the chairman of Adobe And he literally puts in the money Because then just, you know I think they cost four million to run and they lose three million he makes up so they get like a million bucks in advertising. I don't understand why they can't make money to be honest about it it's just as good as half of these places Well how is the newdomain.net doing? Is that making money? Of course not we need Adobe to help us But thats my point! You got great writers Andrew J Batchevich writes this column its called David Brooks is constantly wrong

09:43 It takes a lot to be the voice of the New York Times op-ed page most consistently wrong about the warrants so they'd say hit piece. Right Yeah, no you need money these things all need money to get going on AOL But John none of this stuff is really making any money anything that's advertising based Is not really like The Verge The Verge is all venture capital those wait until that runs out Let's see if those guys are still around and if their heads are still that big What else is really working? When it comes to writing, not much. What is really making the money? Boing-Boing is a hobby site and by the way this reporters committee I think I have pulled their 990 This is not a small outfit They got some real money here in this thing like millions and millions of dollars I was doing a lot of 990 work Give us your 990 research let's go

10:44 Well, that'll take us right into the INSA. I don't know if you're ready for that? As opposed to what? Do we have any lightweight stuff we can start with? Did you go out to dinner with your buddies? Did you hang out in Austin? You know there's a football game there and it gets to town and goes crazy... You find it annoying? I know you hate sports. I don't hate sports, i'm just completely uninterested and no this is like...no..I really don't notice any of that there might be someone might say like the gardener I think said hey Did you watch the boxing match? No. I don't even know what you're talking about It was pay-per-view, how are you gonna watch it Well...I guess i could have paid to view it but no I'm not interested 60 bucks So did the Longhorns play is that what your saying The good old longhorn Yeah and how'd they do I believe they lost

11:38 Yeah, I think the team is going down the tubes. You should know this if you live in that town! I don't have to know this at all it's completely... When somebody says hey go horns and then honk your horn It's completely irrelevant to my life apparently Mickey did have a naked photo shoot here yesterday That was kind of cool Who was naked? Like there's like this androgynous kind of boy-girl thing it was pretty twisted Oh God! Yeah. That's pretty twisted I was like, move a little bit to the left no no don't touch that Mickey showed me the picture and I'm like ah this is...I'm turned on by this yeah that's the dude oh well okay what else so that is forthcoming ladies and gentlemen Well there wasn't...okay I got something light here's a little light thing

12:32 I don't know if you saw this, but we actually have a jingle for this. But i'll play the little media report first and then i'll play the jingle. Anything in the world to drink? But when you choose water, you truly are choosing the best thing that you can for yourself. Mrs Obama picked Water Town also home to a couple of companies that produce soft drinks to promote the healthier H2O choice Just drink up because truly as I've said before water is first and best energy drink To help hype her hydration goals The First Lady tapped into Eva Longoria's star power

13:12 Water! Students seem impressed with the all-star stop. I think it's a good message, drinking water is definitely important for younger people so they can stick with a healthier diet and I think it's cool that Michelle Obama and even LaGuardia came to support us too. I feel like now I should drink a lot more water to stay hydrated kind of stay fit This of course is why the first lady is promoting this drink your water What you had the wrong jingle at the end? It should have been a gunshot I Felt like shooting myself. I mean telling people to whoa hey, I'm the first lady. I've got it I got all this influence let me tell you what we should be doing drinking water well There's a couple things you need to know that she is talking about drinking bottled water

14:02 PepsiCo just coincidentally is coming out with their new competing water product. Oh the one that competes with the Coke water? Yes, yes correct. Coke has I believe they bought Smart Water and also have they have there that other water that you see all over the place this is really well here's the thing that really bothered me is that it is young in Rubicam Buck and food Nielsen proclivity media VML and core strategies that handled the research marketing messaging and advertising for the Miss Obama Water drive, this is not okay. She's doing a commercial Yes totally corrupt in you know and there's some stock in it for your babe You know it's like wow, let's uh Let's

14:59 I mean that is not okay. She's out there promoting water for soft drink companies, not tap water, not clean tap water certainly and oh my god in Austin we have shit water here You know that zero thing is quite good. Now we filter our water, we don't... Yeah but which one? What filter are you using? I have a... promise not to lie. A Brita? No! I have a Berkey water filter. A Berkey?! Yeah this is the thing that's advertised on all the survivalist shows God, but it's really a huge like a barrel? Like a silver plated kind of thing and you put the water in the top and it removes everything including fluoride. And it takes hours for it to drip all the way down is really good yet. The best one that I've seen so far as this zero called no what's not great. What's wrong with those old solids when we're done

15:58 No, but the Berkey is really... it's high quality. It's not cheap either! It's like a couple hundred bucks these are real high-end water filters Let's take a look at this okay what's it well how do you spell this thing? B E R K E Y I think Water filter This is the kind of things yeah this survivalism can't think Jim Baker sells no someone else sells them too Oh, your buddy. Your buddy there in Austin? Yeah here it is the big Berkey gravity water filter How come you haven't met up with him The Big Berkeley Water Filter System Review We not only review it but we also sell it! We can count on our review Oh this big can looking thing

16:46 It's got a little thing, a little bitty dinky piece of crap faucet at the bottom. It's just a regular faucet. The thing is going to break off? That thing? Yeah I've had it for over a year and its doing fine. It removes fluoride and arsenic? Yes! Its a good water filter. Filters have a 3000 gallon life? Uh yeah A review we tested although we sell it too. There are other places to get a review John you don't have to just get from there. It holds 3 gallons Yeah, takes the dirt out. Hey you can pee in this and it'll come out clean I doubt it I think that I challenge you I challenge Okay But I don't want to do it in the one we currently use uh-huh And so typically this is how it goes and then at the end of this little conversation there would be a code That you could use to go and get a discount on your Berkey water filter Of course yeah

17:51 All right, let me move on here. The INSA... there was a lot of activity on C-SPAN the past couple of days it seems like the intelligence community and Department of Homeland Security all got together and said you know these are the days this is the perfect time for us to talk about cyber problems and have a conversation well this is a big conversation so the INSA is the Intelligence National Security Alliance. And they had their first annual meeting and you can find them at INSA online org I NSA online.org a nonprofit organization that according to their for form 990 has 20 million dollars not bad for First time where this money come from well Gee, it's funny you ask John let's listen to the opening of the INS a Good morning everyone

18:49 and welcome to uh... things by the way is negro ponte who's opening up the at the whole thing for which nigger ponte john negroponte was a guy former security shield inaugural in sir i see some it uh... at insa our mission is too serve as a catalyst for public private and academic partnerships ashes in order to identify develop and promote solutions to the national security challenges confronting the intelligence community. I think we can all agree that we have achieved the first part of that mission here at the IC summit, as we've been able to assemble an audience of more than 500 professionals from across the public private and academic sectors... And here it comes! ...as well as an impressive list of more than 40 panelists and moderators from those same sectors

19:51 So I want to thank you all for being with us today. I want to extend a special thank-you to all of our sponsors, in particular I would like to recognize our two host sponsors Northrop Grumman and Raytheon for their continued support of our efforts In addition to our host sponsors i would like to thank Mantec for sponsoring the breakfast Deloitte for sponsoring the registration. Deloitte sponsored the registration! Wow, that needs a sponsorship. PwC for sponsoring our speakers lounge. BAE Systems for sponsoring our lunch and Social Intelligence and Eagle Ray for sponsoring the morning and afternoon coffee break. Eagle Ray! Without your support

20:46 Insa would not be able to put on events such as this one today. kind of the Lockheed Martin sector that was dominating politics during the Bush administration. Yeah, yes remember it? And bring in Grumman and Raytheon and these guys I'm looking over this list of you know that are on the committees on the steering committees on the boards it's all there's no Locke people to be found anywhere this is a obvious

21:29 screw job to the West Coast aerospace industry to push the East Coast aerospace industry which would be Grumman and the boys. This is just a shill operation, this is a bunch of bullcrap! I'm looking to see if I can find that clip on Lockheed. You probably would have put Lockheed title I'm sure... My titling stinks! It makes searching rather complicated Doesn't matter. This is a very interesting conference they not only had the creme de la creme of Contractors, but they also had the creme de la creme of speakers Mike Rogers Dutch Ruppersberger Both these two guys these to other senators you guys are the worst They should be voted out well when you hear what they had to say You will feel even more strongly about this

22:28 They are they are the oversight committee for the intelligence community these and when you hear there's no oversight They're all in and they're at this sponsored conference with I mean, how can you even? Show your face when you have all these names. This is the sponsorships Thanks for the lunch. Thanks for the speakers room And these are supposed to be our representatives Oh and who is their moderating the panel well we might as well bring the media in So with that said, I'd like to introduce our first plenary session of the day. The View from the Hill featuring Congressman Mike Rogers Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger I'm sorry, the congressman ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence And who's going to moderate the discussion is Fran Townsend CNN National Security

23:25 analyst and executive vice president of McAndrews & Forbes Holdings. Did you know that? No, I do now! I didn't know she was the executive vice president of Forbes Holding's She needs to recuse herself! McAndrews...that's a...I've heard them You remember Fran was my predecessor as chairperson of INSA until last December prior to her time at Insys. She actually ran this outfit? There's a lot about Fran we didn't know! I didn't know she was running the... Fran is a mover and shaker, this woman. And she's dressed in her hot little sleeveless number. The Andrew & Forbes holding is the principal holding company used by private equity investor Ron Perlman. Huh that's interesting. Revlon alright so anyway you get the idea there it's Fran Products products cosmetics and vehicles

24:28 What setup is this? What vehicles do they have I know about the Revlon. Here's their subsidiaries Allied Security Holdings LLC that's probably the big one that you have to deal with AM General Deluxe Entertainment Services Group Inc MNF Worldwide Panavision Revlon group Scientific Games Corporation Seagatechnologies and Transtech Pharma Yeah. All right, so the plot thickens! Let's listen in to a little bit of this conversation here is Congressman Mike Rogers propagating a lie that has not only been discussed on The No Agenda Show

25:06 Many times but is admitted to be a lie except for some reason No one really remembers what the truth is and this audience is just all in on it certainly Putin is eager to get back in the The game of influence around the world as you've seen unfold. And of course, I don't know if you've read his New York Times article editorial. It's good to get lectured by the guy who invaded South Ossetia not that long ago, right? No I'm sorry that is incorrect it is a fact that Georgia invaded Russia in that case Is this not true John? Yeah as all the documents show yeah so why is the congressman saying this

25:53 Well, he wants to say it because that's what we have a scenario, a litany, a script and that's part of it. And so he has to say that. Okay, um off-key harmonica here more from Mike Rogers as he really gets angry about The so called violations of the NSA and you're gonna start to hear some interesting things As we get two in one two more clips into this About that kind of solidifies our theory that the NSA document leaks

26:35 really were done by a competing agency and we're pretty sure that's the CIA being the competing agency. By the way, no one- And Fran not only worked for them but she admittedly was an employee of the CIA and we believe she probably still has good contacts Here is Mike getting really angry about these so called violations. By the way throughout this entire conference every speaker I mean it was hours and hours of stuff Every speaker would talk about Snowden saying, by the way he's no whistleblower. They would all have to say that which means the court has found some the intelligence committee found some and these are not... here's the other problem we used such specific language in describing these events every time it came out people said well that's a privacy violation it says it's a violation

27:30 No, absolutely wrong. They weren't privacy violations they were some of them were technical violations and when I Technical violation Josh use the word violation that's even wrong Oh It's just that the technology changes everybody knows about internet protocols something changes There's gonna be a little glitch in the system to catch up. Oh, oh! A little glitch in the system? Would they... If you were like a citizen and your speedometer is not working quite right and you're going few miles over the speed limit that's a glitch? You can just say... It was just a glitch I did it then. Okay, you can go sir. I should have tried.. You know, I got nailed on the way to Marfa. Uh, I got pulled over first speeding ticket in 25 years. How fast were you going at 94?

28:11 It's an 80 mile an hour zone. This is 300 miles of road and this is the first time we've taken Mickey's car on a big trip so I'm setting the cruise control. You know how if you... because there are hills. You were going 94? Yes Just on cruise control? Yeah And just bombing along? Yeah! On a California road, you'd be bumped off the road by a rut. Oh no... No these are Texas roads friend son these are good roads we got here So I'm, yeah... so there's mountains in this area. There are actual mountains the Texas whatever they're called. I call them the Texas Mountains and there is this magic spot if you're doing like exactly 80 on the cruise control for some reason when it went up a hill it would downshift and over rev like 4000 RPM. So I am like well if do it slower doesn't do that but if I do it faster then also doesn't over rev. So I just like oh 94 is perfect speed

29:12 And uh, and some good old boy. He got me. And he... eugh! He literally- John, he literally had the belt on. Did he call you a blondie? No! But he had his hands in it, his thumbs in his belt, y'know? He was doing that thing. Eugh! We clocked you on radar doin 94 miles an hour! Yeah so anyway 248 fucking dollars For this ticket for 14 miles over speed limit. Was it just regular dollars? Yeah, exactly All right more uh yeah so that's a anytime internet protocol we all know internet protocol he says You know something changes you get glitches in the system The technology changes everybody knows about internet protocols when something changes Everybody knows everybody science is in There's going to be a little glitch in the system to catch up It's like The Matrix just a little glitch in the system to catch up Right thats a technical problem not a privacy problem Oh

30:04 I'm sorry, it's a technical problem not a privacy problems are listed in there. The newspaper takes it and says aha Let's describe this as a privacy violation 2796 or whatever they were saying most of those this is what you give my blood pressure up on these Think of this matter of fact Americans should be mad about this for all the wrong reasons that they're mad about it now This is a weird sentence that I'd want to deconstruct Americans should be mad about it for all the wrong reasons. They're mad about it now What is he trying to say? He's an idiot listen again you were saying most of those and this is what give my blood pressure up on these

29:12 And uh, and some good old boy. He got me. And he... eugh! He literally- John, he literally had the belt on. Did he call you a blondie? No! But he had his hands in it, his thumbs in his belt, y'know? He was doing that thing. Eugh! We clocked you on radar doin 94 miles an hour! Yeah so anyway 248 fucking dollars For this ticket for 14 miles over speed limit. Was it just regular dollars? Yeah, exactly All right more uh yeah so that's a anytime internet protocol we all know internet protocol he says You know something changes you get glitches in the system The technology changes everybody knows about internet protocols when something changes Everybody knows everybody science is in There's going to be a little glitch in the system to catch up It's like The Matrix just a little glitch in the system to catch up Right thats a technical problem not a privacy problem Oh

30:04 I'm sorry, it's a technical problem not a privacy problems are listed in there. The newspaper takes it and says aha Let's describe this as a privacy violation 2796 or whatever they were saying most of those this is what you give my blood pressure up on these Think of this matter of fact Americans should be mad about this for all the wrong reasons that they're mad about it now This is a weird sentence that I'd want to deconstruct Americans should be mad about it for all the wrong reasons. They're mad about it now What is he trying to say? He's an idiot listen again you were saying most of those and this is what give my blood pressure up on these

30:45 Think of this matter fact Americans should be mad by about this for all the wrong reasons that they're mad about it now Whatever most of those violations That were reported There was lawful intercept of bad guys overseas bad guy Write it down bad guys Bad guys overseas Legitimately identified legitimate targets reasonable suspicion all of that was was found. Now, in the modern day of communication you really don't know where that person is with that particular device. Really? We don't we in the modern day of community, we don't really know where that particular person is with that particular device. Oh excuse me sir. Bullshit at any time right and guess what you can be a US so he's been pitched something by the Silicon Valley guys because he's doing that right thing at the end of the sentence Right, right person for a temporary period of time being somewhere else by using us networks

31:43 That's a confusing thing for a guy who is trying to catch a bad guy, right? We all have legal implications on if somebody uses the US network even if they're a foreign person in a foreign place. Alright so I want to point out again this one of the guys who has oversight on the intelligence community. Oversight as representative of people and here it comes Listen carefully to what he says here. So part of the problem was we were actually too good, too aggressive in our oversight and we documented it and we talk about it with leadership in order to try to fix it they stole that slide deck and put... Oh did you hear it?

32:20 Did you hear it? Yeah. What did he say they, they stole that slide deck so part of the problem was we were actually too good too aggressive in our oversight and we documented it and we talk about it with leadership in order to try to fix it they stole that slide deck and put it out there and said oh my god we caught them doing something horribly wrong We should dismantle the National Security Agency Uh-huh I am really worried about where we're going here In this growing sense of isolationism is concerning to me. There you go, this to me is him saying the CIA stole the slide deck and they're trying to get rid of the NSA

33:00 Yeah, that's kind of he might actually be saying that I think it's exactly what he said and by the way What's funny about this is that generally speaking? The Republican Party is the one who is isolationist And he's a republican. Is he is republican or democrat no He's a republican public okay, the other guy they Ruperts burger. He's yeah that guy. He's such as the Democrat yeah Alright, so this guy's this and he's uh this guy is a bad these are these are two bad guys Yeah you know what John just call me back for a sec if you don't mind. You just gotta we got it's it's not a violation It's just a technical glitch

33:37 I'm gonna call you back in it right now. It's not a violation don't worry, it's just a technical glitch No real problem. I'll play the rest of this clip while he's reconnecting here And if we don't get ourselves right and if we don't stop beating Americans up for being Americans We're going to be in a lot of trouble when it comes to providing our intelligence services The tools that they need to protect this country nah alright So then there's this whole thing about how he has to have the FBI involved. I'm gonna leave that for what it is, because i want to move through this a little bit but he already prefaces

34:14 Whatever you hear about the NSA sharing intelligence with the Israelis, it's not true! When you hear it I'm going to be ask all of you to be skeptical. Skeptical? This notion that agency is collecting on US persons and giving it any foreign intelligence agency in a way was described as completely wrong Wrong?! Yeah no they do better job than what was described. Yeah exactly Exactly. This notion that the agency is collecting on US persons and giving it to any foreign intelligence agency in the way it was described, is completely wrong Wrong That's not what is happening No? I can't go into a lot of other details They're selling you to them No no no! You're stepping on it. You're stepping on it Oh sorry Sorry

34:57 I can't go into a lot of other detail but i can guarantee you the privacy of Americans. Trust me he's like that's not what's going on now, I can't tell you what is going on because that secret because you know that could hurt the national security if I told you that You're full of crap! Full of crap but who was even more full of more crap? Is this Dutch Ruppersberger This guy is a real piece of work. He is Mr Talking Point You drop a penny in this guy and he just goes on forever That is dangerous And so now that you've got folks with European papers, you've got folks with maybe American papers who are trained

35:35 They have been further radicalized. This is still Rogers, he's about to hand off to Dutch and it gets really funny And guess what? When this is over... Guess what! ...whatever looks like when its over they're going home Hold on a second are they supposed to guess?! Yes everyone has a pad of paper in the audience That is dangerous and so now that you've got folks with European papers You've got folks with maybe American papers who are trained They have been further radicalized. Radicalize! This is a big theme? And guess what, when this is over I will... Guess what are they supposed to guess?! Shut up! It seems like a 12 year old... Be quiet! They're going home

36:14 And Al-Qaeda knows who they are. They know that they are a new avenue for providing strikes, so I think what the commissioner is talking about is the dynamic of the threat changed you don't have to look for the big event flying a plane into a building. They'd like to do that too but we also have to now worry about those smaller knockoff events." Okay, so this is the setup... So he's now gone through all of the... The NSA is great! The CIA stole our decks and made us look like dicks! Stole our decks made us looked like dicks Now he's saying oh, you know now we have the smaller stuff ever the al-qaeda is right radicalizing children over here And they even have American nationality and they're not looking for a big 9-eleven type events Although they'll take it but they're doing smaller stuff get ready Dutch and You know It's I'm equally concerned and I do think their threat is greater in that regard. I agree with Mike I think

37:06 The real focus and what my concern is, and I think a lot of us have had this conversation, is the lone wolf. I love this guy. You hear that? The lone wolf! It's not a wolf, it's a wolf no it's a wolf yeah What my concern is and I think a lot of us and Mike you know have had this conversation Is the lone wolf. They all kind of realize That we are very sophisticated in our allies And being able to find a major attack So what they're attempting more out of Yemen than any other area Focusing on the United States and having individuals that are under their radar

37:42 under the radar. Not using phones, not doing things that where they we could pick things up. They don't use phones! And that's by the way why it's so important for the intelligence community to work with state and local also a team approach get as much information as you can anything it looks unusual out there But this is what I'm concerned about. We had a couple of those attempts, we were lucky that some of those did not occur but it's just it's a serious world and now I think you can't misjudge how many people are helping Al-Qaeda and funding them You have some very smart people that are part of the organization. You have doctors that are trying to

38:22 research and they're putting plastic bombs at individuals so that they can go through the airports. Hello 2012 calling... Are you kidding me? It gets better, he keeps going! ...not be detected so this is very serious Now we've been talking a lot today about Syria and about terrorism, but let's not lose sight of the cyber attacks. Cyber? Yes! And how serious it is not only to our country on what we're being lost in money... Money. But more importantly how these attacks can affect us here in this country. Okay. Destructive attacks. It has been alleged... Alleged? Media reported I can't say directly but I know where that is. Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute

39:01 What he said, it has been alleged by media report I can't say but i know what it is. Say directly but I know where it is. Okay. That Iran knocked out Aramco the largest oil company for Saudi Arabia Dude that was on Alex J...that was on Infowars.com knocked out 30,000 computers when Russia as reported in the media went to attack Georgia they cyber attacked. No! Russia did not attack Georgia and he's making it worse He is saying they cyber attacked him first this is such bullcrap To attack Georgia They cyber-attacked them they shut down their communication systems This is very serious and it really concerns me People say Dutch you and Mike are members of a gang of eight what keeps up at night? I'll say well spicy Mexican food

39:46 And you know weapons of mass destruction including what we're talking about with a chemical and cyber. And cyber! And cyber! But what do you think the damages of cyber John? Of cyber from the lone wolves how much money do you think it is causing us in three years time from cyber to lone wolves? What do you think? Billions. How much?! 5 billion. John, this is Lone Wolf's we're talking about here! It's not just five billions? The way really you should live your life now where are we well have a lot of issues that were dealing with things revolving we're very concerned about the cyber issue Mike and I pulled together we decided we had to do something about our cyber attacks and we brought in all different groups we brought the ACLU You want to have another guess before he gives you the answer

40:33 You're still sticking with three years five five billion ten billion ten billion three years tell me right down, okay? Am I low you're low You're low That's we brought the business community to try to find a way To deal with the issue of cyber very important and we have to deal with that issue We're getting attacked as you know every single day Cyber Command estimated in the last three years I think we've lost about four hundred billion dollars from trade secrets and information. Four hundred billion dollars! In three years? Four hundred billion

41:15 How do people put up with these guys? Well, you said the other day that we need to vote them out. This is extremely important These are the people who run the oversight Who are in charge of the budget and of the actions Of the National Security Agency These guys have to go If you work for the government it goes like this You have a little meeting And you go, uh... Hey Adam, Rupert's Burger is coming in. Oh yeah? That idiot?! I'm gonna run one by him here and see what he does. Alright! I am going to tell him that we've lost four hundred billion dollars No wait a minute How are you gonna do that man!? You just throw that number out there? I'm not even gonna back it up Are you just gonna say it? He'll bite, he'll bite, you watch Okay

42:13 Yeah, no one will ever know. They'll all buy it! That's what I was saying... They'll all buy it! No $400 billion dollars so he's saying that this is partially and I got here at the end of his quote. He's full of these two guys need to go but then Rupertsburgers the dumb one Yeah, yeah. But he's saying it's in law... here hold on a second. Information. Hold on let me get the 400 billion quote Trade secrets and information that mostly China but other countries are forgetting Oh yeah! China So you're saying trade secrets and other information Well yeah I mean if we want to value it that way You know? Yeah

42:51 Guess this podcast is worth a billion on its own for all the trade secrets and information that the Chinas are taken from it Here, let me give me see. Let me guess rhetorical question okay? So I have a Company making widgets. Yes, I take all my blueprints I load them up in a big truck and I put him in a boat ship him to China give them all the stuff say hey Please make copies of my widget for me They turn around and hack your system to get those very same blueprints According to make zero sense what kind name is Dutch anyway? Who names her kid Dutch when just call him best Nick just call him Belgian Belgium yeah

43:32 Now this was all very annoying to me and then it got worse when I saw the insaonline.org And if you look at the membership here, let's see Councils tasks task forces here about us Leadership who is the leadership of this outfit? Hold on a second Leadership leadership leadership here. We go a bunch of hacks who got roused John John necroponte Detroit the tranny Ambassador Joseph R detrani all right Charles Allen Suzanne Wilson Hoke who she is hold on but the don't they have like They have like some kind of Council Oh cyber council let's look at the Cyber Council and

44:22 Terry have to get in on this. Well, this is where the money is They got 20 million dollars a year and income This is a lobbying group primarily but I just don't understand how can these two jabronis sit there on a panel with the media shill and and media industrial military complex shill Fran Townsend With Negroponte and by the way all the former guys were on C-SPAN this weekend, all the former DHS that everyone's former and they're testifying I mean it they are all lobbyists at this point. How can you let lobbyists come in and testify in a Senate hearing? No one says anything about this And meanwhile we're just gonna get soaked

45:07 Complete... I'm soaked, I tell ya. Going? Yeah, I got some stuff from Clapper too but first i'd like to say in the morning to you John C Dvorak In the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning all the boots on the ground and feet in the air and subs in the water. And people out there and knights and dames Yes! The earls and dukes and barons and baronets and grands and grand-dukes and all of them. And to the Belgians...and in the morning too our human resources in chat room noagendastream.com NoAgendaChat.net Always hanging in there always happy to give us some free advice We appreciate them as well as our artist Joshua Pettigrew who gave us artwork for episode 547 Great work

45:47 That was the crazy Bashar al-Assad selling everything sale. Yeah, which was a great piece of work No agenda art generator comm is where we choose our artwork from we do it right after the show So it's tough for these artists to anticipate you know To get everything done on time is very very challenging and some and well actually will try and wait 10 15 minutes or any latecomers that come in but We really do appreciate what you do there And of course the way this program works is value for value. We have no advertising, we have no sponsors, no one's sponsoring the speaker's room... No one's buying the coffee! Who's sponsoring registration on today's podcast John? Why it's Northrop Grumman and Raytheon so we don't get any of that goodness you can-we don't have a form 990, we pay our taxes, we don't need to you know to scam

46:43 The fact that it's a non-profit bothers me too. Anyway... No, instead we have our listeners or audience the real public radio model unlike the underwriters or advertisers whatever you want to call it from NPR and these are our producers. Just like Hollywood they get credits for the big names at the top for our executive producers and associate executive producers and about three-quarters way through the program we thank everybody else who does not wish to remain anonymous so who is our executive producer for today's program John. Well our executive producers are three, excuse me Scott Andrews came in with and we're gonna actually add this to the donation possibilities 666 dot 66 to celebrate our sixth anniversary it's a super sack of sixes so a sack of sixes super sack

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53:27 Slate like okay, how can the average he's got this written in and it's a funny writes in all caps big giant letters They're all kind of jammed together How can the average slave like me know what to watch and listen to besides is the best podcast in the universe? An example is them at Goughlin group. I used to think it was spontaneous But you say it's scripted no You don't say that's long script I expect they would meet to go over topics for the day, but scripted to me means they practice or rehearse what everyone is going to say. Yes I'm hoping you'll devote some time pointing us two places where the average person can go to get semi objective stories

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57:37 We hit people in the mouth. I'll hold back on some of the C-SPAN stuff so we can mix it up a bit, it was just so incredibly annoying to see all these douchebags and started on 9th September and went all the way through yesterday. Just session at C-SPAN had nothing but douchebags on! You know I was very disappointed this week

58:18 We didn't have our six-week cycle event. Should've happened by now. We had some things that could have turned into it, but didn't really catch any legs... Yeah that Boston thing I think was still suspicious The airport drill? They do a drill on September 11th and then they go oh we didn't know! And you know... We forgot what day it would be! Yeah and at the Boston Airport right okay something was up with that When they had the TSA guy at LAX who left, who like quit and then wrote something on his Facebook. He was mad and he had something in his locker or you know it was all airport related stuff though yeah

58:57 Surprisingly. I do want to do a little side clip here, as we know people...I'm surprised this isn't getting more play worldwide but these floods in Colorado yeah We've had this very interesting because the Midwest at first it was up in Calgary all the Canadians up there had some of the worst floods of Canada in Calgary and now within this is a entire new system that's coming through also sucking up a bunch of moisture from the tropics uh is just and then then the low apparently just stops hold on one second it the low pressure system just seems to be stopped there so it flooded

59:39 Central Colorado, a lot of these little towns, these picturesque little towns have been completely wiped out. And here's an interesting little story you should... This is the 300 missing in Colorado and I have a punchline to this. With the roads impassable they stayed in an elementary school that served as a shelter where they heard a little boy cry He just whimpered, ''I want to go home.'' Around 300 people remain unaccounted for, but that could be due in parts of the difficulty in communication. And Jeff there are more thunderstorms in the forecast. Rick Salinger thank you

1:00:15 The difficulty in communications, hello? So Bad Chad one of our producers who we stayed with during the Hot Pockets tour. You know he's a... He's an EMT but firefighter type dude hero so I've been in contact with him because he's in Boulder and he says Adam I've never seen anything like this in my life it's unbelievable what's going on He's okay, his family is safe. But essentially you've got this river separating Boulder and no one can get across it. Communication... although he's able to use the actual connectivity stuff is okay but here's what my punchline to this was if everybody was a ham operator that was gonna be so on the ham boards! This is funny when you read these guys

1:01:09 Because they all want to participate and do everything via protocol, and work with the emergency services. And the emergency services want no part of these guys! It's kind of sad... So I would just be like being my own thing you know? The hams always get into this like alright we're gonna do everything according to the EMMS and the system and protocol and talk and then what'd she say shut up don't talk i'm in control than it and then nothing gets accomplished If we just have a bunch of hams like, you know, dude let's do this. Let's rock! You know? That would be better Well it would be better if there was at least some people that could find out where the 300 were Or if the 300 had little portable units they could say hey yeah We're over here fine Yeah well that would be one way they could actually be helpful Yeah It's bad and I find it

1:02:02 It's almost you know, you almost would think that it's like a harp thing the way this is so concentrated in one area If you look at the surrounding areas. It could not be more night and day difference And I'm not sure if you looked at weather patterns Do you know how this is taking place how this is happening what the deal is with this? They talk about quite a bit but to when you want to listen to is the girl on Al Jazeera Yeah. Mickey came home... I can't quite remember what she said, but she explained it well! Mickey came home and was like show me this girl you guys are talking about Uh-huh What's her name? Wendy? That wasn't a Wendy that's who you'd think her name was Wendy It's funny. I hope her name is Wendy because she looks like a Wendy to me Well, I do have sad news to report John

1:02:57 Okay, very very sad. Do you remember this? Do you remember this do you recognize it no I don't remember Listen carefully Day by day keeping them casters all the way Remember now? Oh yeah, that guy. The rapping jihadi! Right the rapping jihadi Yeah they killed him. About time... But he'll be back His own guys killed him Like Mukhtar or his own guys killed him He's probably just dead Yeah his own guys killed him Not like Mukhtar Mukhtar Can you imagine the guy You know he had a five million dollar bounty on his head from the FBI can you imagine

1:03:51 His own guys kill him. It's a sad day, the day the music died John. But there's a lot of really interesting al-qaeda Al Qaeda related news going on. Al Zawahiri, of course is now On the top of his game and This is this outfit site SITE and they translate all the websites And you know this by itself I find to be a sketchy organization but they are always a number of them Yeah, but the site guys are the ones that the media always have to buy subscription so So you know once your CNN, you buy the subscription to site. You're always going to use them as your official source and so Al-Zawahiri apparently no longer doing video only audio No surprise in many ways that Ayman al Zawahiri would release an audio message close the anniversary of 9 11 The Al Qaeda leaders always liked to try to do this

1:04:45 They know that this is a time when they get attention and can get the message out to their audience. And what he said this time is that Al-Qaeda operatives should land a large strike on America, he said even if it takes years of patience He said that the Boston bombing was an example of that Interesting because in the past he's also talked about lone wolf and small type attacks, and Al Qaeda sympathizers and supporters know what they should do. But the thrust of his message here and quoting directly from this audio message not a video message, an audio message quoting from it... He says We should bleed America economically by provoking it to continue its massive expenditure on its security For the weak point of America is its economy, which has already begun to stagger due to the military and security Expenditure he is trying to target the economy By terror attacks that will cause people to spend more money or making sure they're safe. So there's a couple things here one

1:05:45 Is this a podcast that we can subscribe to through iTunes, that he's doing now? That is audio on... does he just throw up audio. Because if it's a podcast that's kind of cool and I'd like to know what his RSS feed is but the second thing is that the coincidence of this coming together with the Jihadi terrorism threat assessment document which was released by... at the same day The same day, by the National Security Program Homeland Security Project. This is from the Bipartisan Policy Center another fine organization in Washington but this organization has Tom Keene and Lee Hamilton these names you may remember as members of the 9-11 Commission

1:06:37 And they are now promoting this new bipartisan policy center report and you can only guess what is in it. As you so well outlined, the threat 12 years after 9-11 has shifted We must now recognize that individuals who were radicalized on the internet often inspired by Al Qaeda's jihadist message pose a very serious concern in this country Well, these lone wolves might not be able to kill in mass numbers as happened on 9-11. What has happened at Fort Hood and Boston shows that alienated people can do a lot of damage. Can I be considered alienated John? In any circumstances? And online messaging Online messaging! Can radicalize these people. Really? Tell ya, online messaging... You could be radicalized

1:07:38 We've also got another problem. The fiscal situation in this country is far different than when it was. Budget cutbacks demand that we review exactly how we're spending our money on homeland security... Is this not exactly the message Al Zawahiri was giving, John? What is this? Where did you get all these douchebag clips for one show because it all happens in one. Oh, I see what you said this earlier there was a douche bag theme yes C-SPAN had a meeting. You were just got in a milieu This is like ridiculous No This was every this is they had four different things on c-span that all happened just before or just after 9 11 and then you get yeah And the whole thing is smaller groups lone wolf attacks

1:08:23 It's gonna cost a lot of money. Of course, it's all about... Oh my God! In fact I'll just jump around now This is Clapper If you really want to know what it's about and he had he had a whole session himself So like to touch briefly on in case you haven't been reading the newspapers lately Hold on a second before we play this clip I'm assuming since its Clapper they would have asked him why he lied to Congress and why there has been no action taken Oh, John. John. John. I know you are just saying this in jest No no he has something for you to remember Three current subjects Hold on let me just roll it back here So i'd like to touch briefly on uh... In case you haven't been reading the newspapers lately On three curr- IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN READING THE NEWSPAPERS LATELY You stupid idiots here at the conference listening to ME Ha ha! Idiots Douchebags Current subjects What I call The 3 S's OH THE THREE S'S WHAT COULD THEY BE JOHN?

1:09:24 Service, simplicity and soup. Sequestration Snowden and Syria I like yours better! Sequestration, Syria and Snowden And everyone's laughing by the way they think it's funny uh... and in a sense of each lends itself to representing a piece of that this long-term picture too. This guy Clapper, I know i'm jumping around but he is such a dick and he has lies continuously here he is on Snowden so let me move onto the second S just make the point not a whistleblower

1:10:16 Oh really? Have we had a conviction, have we had a court date, have we had a trial... But no. He is just not to make the point, he's not a whistleblower. And as loath as I am to give any credit for what has happened here which is egregious, I think it's clear that some of the conversations this has generated and some of the debate is actually probably needed to happen. Perhaps, it's unfortunate that it didn't happen some time ago but if there was a good side to this maybe thats it Unfortunately there are more of this to come Oh! That's interesting He is predicting that there's more of this to come What does he know we don't know? Well since they supposedly don't know what Snowden took Interesting isn't it I think he's just blowing smoke Maybe

1:11:23 and of course I, you know in my position obviously very concerned about the impact on the not just NSA because this is an issue for the whole intelligence community it's not just NSA. Okay so what they're doing is that they're implementing something they should have implemented a long or changed a long time ago The IRTPA which is hold on I wrote it down here... The IRTPA is the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, which is something that we... Of course we weren't doing the show in 2004 so we kind of missed that one. But this is how you get clearance and of course this is not working too well for them And they're going to change this with another piece of fabulous software

1:12:20 which of course you will see in your company soon. And we have way more people who are out of scope with that than we should have. Out of scope? Are you in scope or out of scope? So, we've got to change the system, fix it and take advantage of technology so that we are enabled to evaluate people continuously not just periodically evaluate talking about well he's talking about evaluating people continuously which means spying on everything they do through the following system so we're moving ahead I'm moving ahead with that longer term though i think something we've started called eyesight the IC IT enterprise which had we had it installed and fully operational

1:13:25 Today might have detected Snowden a lot earlier than we did. I cite the IT enterprise! This is that bullcrap stuff that someone sold him for a couple billion dollars, it's going to make movies of what everyone is doing and you have to have a whole room full of people looking at the people who are looking at the people... We've had a lot of IT guys tell us this works, yeah. I mean certainly not on that scale and the final thing I'll play from this A-hole is really the only thing And so he's gonna take us through the history of how, you know oh they took away all our budgets and everything was frozen and then 9-11 happened. You know and then of course we had to get to the most important thing The most important thing What could be most important thing? He'll tell ya Remember where I was that day Not only the 11th but the day after that We were in a kind of tough place We needed reconstitute capabilities

1:14:25 been cut in the 90s, you know we've sort of been through this movie before when I served as director of DIA in the early nineties and then of course uh... we had to reap the peace dividend occasioned by the demise of the Soviet Union and fall of the wall. And so we essentially reduced the intelligence community by about 22 or 23 percent What a mistake! In the mid-to late nineties We closed stations overseas, eliminated analytic offices. Lost about a third of our all-source analysts A quarter of our human collectors Most all of the virtually all the Cygnet satellites down on orbit were way past the end of their design life Somehow this doesn't ring true to me The guy is saying that everything shut down we had nothing! We had no way to track when...we basically had tin cans and string And then 9 11 happened

1:15:19 We didn't have much in the way of tracking and locating it in our inventory to search and find out our attackers. And we certainly weren't as connected as a community, and we neglected the you know lot of basics like power space and cooling. Ah there is! Power space and cooling isn't that just facilities? That's the big thing power space and cooling that is Utah Oh power space because I looked it up if you google power space cooling that is the three factors that the only three factors that count for data centers

1:16:02 That's an interesting little catch. Isn't that nice? Yeah, that was good! That's worth the price of admission to the No Agenda Show. That's right I don't know what good it does anybody It's one of those things you got to pay attention to The 3 Ss...the power space and cooling And then the thing that always annoys us We've never gotten an answer to Our partners overseas And we certainly have developed capabilities To locate our adversaries to enable us to reach into their sanctuaries, observe collect and extract their plans and intent. We found UBL I've never understood why the intelligence community another elite say you UBL when we all say OBL code it has to be code i mean did they get Osama bin Laden or Usama bin Laden is that a different guy

1:16:58 How many we've asked this question before and I've never gotten a satisfactory no, no We've never gotten a satisfactory answer. I always wonder is it Osama they got they killed that guy maybe Who's the Obama Osama? Anyway, I mean that is the lying director of Intel of National Intelligence Clapper I didn't realize that he was the director of the DIA for a while Yeah And also something else called Nima which is another another thing I don't know. These guys are all in bed together and they're only want is our money. Yeah, but the guy is an admitted liar and just let him get away with it! Just go ahead and talk about how we got no money when you need more money to get rid of the sequestration so important and Syria's gonna cyber attack us... This is all bullshit! Yes Syrian there thousands of hackers they have because they're also connected yeah alright so let's take a look at Syria

1:18:00 By the way, I spotted a new potential superstar on CBS. Oh! Want to talk about... At first when i took one look at her, she's a plant CBS CIA broadcasting but then she has a British accent and then I looked into her. Oh no MI6? MI5? I don't think so because I looked at her early work She was a stand host on Sky and they made her look like They made they've cut her she had straggly old hair. She looked like crap and they gave her a pixie haircut She's gorgeous, and what's your name? Who are we talking name is Holly Williams And you have to look up Holly Williams broadcast or Holly William CBS okay I'm looking now for CBS otherwise you run into the country Western star yeah the country steals the steals everything um she's got uh I don't know if she's gorgeous

1:18:57 No, she's... you haven't seen the last iteration of her. The upgraded version you mean? Yeah they have really gussied her up Okay so CBS adds Holly Williams to correspondent ranks Alright she lives in Turkey? Yeah Okay Alright, okay good. So we have an eye on her she's gonna be a new shield on the scene winner Do we have some some clip from her? She did discuss it is what she sounds like on the air I was stunned when the British accent came out and they had to do a little research For more on this agreement now We want to bring in Holly Williams in Istanbul Turkey and also Elizabeth Palmer who is in Damascus Holly I want to start with you What does the opposition reaction of this agreement well Jeff the head of Syria's main armed opposition

1:19:46 opposition group General Salim Idris held a press conference here in Istanbul today and he rejected the framework agreed on by the US and Russia. We think that the Russians and Syrian regime are playing games to waste time, and to win time for the criminal regime in Damascus. General Idris also said that the opposition would not agree to a ceasefire in order to allow international inspectors to visit Syria's chemical weapons facilities I like her, but is that British? It sounds almost Australian really. Hey! I actually don't know what it is Does she have a wiki page with her height? She...I saw if you see some pictures of her on Sky they show her standing there she can't be tall Yeah, I think she's like 5'6". Let me see Holly Williams But I think she presents herself so well on CBS that I think she's got the future Okay

1:20:49 So I'm watching this stuff, uh...I got the Kerry clip. I mean Kerry- The more interesting thing to me is this Kerry heads to Paris little thing I caught and I'm thinking he didn't realize why Hillary was always going to Paris and why are they meeting with the Saudis in Paris when he's you know in the Middle East? Well for the food and for the hairdressers That's what I'm thinking Right Meanwhile Margaret Secretary Kerry is not coming home now What's next for him Secretary Kerry will leave Geneva on Sunday. He'll travel onto Israel, then to Paris where he'll meet with the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia, the UK and France This is about keeping up international pressure on Russia to follow through and Assad to make good on this plan to hand over his chemical weapons Margaret Brennan in Geneva Thank you Have you seen Men In Black?

1:21:47 Now I'm looking at Carrie and you know people have said oh Botox no, no. No, I think that he's been possessed by one of these aliens You're the one that says she has stretch in his face And it's trying to get out and it's what is wrong with the man's face If you look at his face from just a couple years ago His nose was pointy his chin wasn't he looks like now here's the reference? That's a good one He looks like Odo Yeah Remember you yes, it's deep space nine. Yeah, but it's it's frightening yeah He looks terrible his face is all its converted its contorted I don't know It's not normal you have to admit. It's not something very bad as going on there I think we deserve to know well. I think they keep these guys drugged maybe Maybe Marie Harf can tell us do you have a clip? All right? I wish I wish now ahead You have a clip of the president

1:22:53 from his show, his podcast. Big numbers today! Oh yeah let's play that and then I want to play this analysis of Assad from a PBS correspondent you know Gwen Ifill now has a show she does Washington Week which used to be called Washington week in review and so they've given her this show And so she's on two shows now. She's the co-host of The News Hour and you know, since she's Obama bot I think it's all a conflict of interest to have her doing any of this stuff but okay... So here is the President's assessment of Assad from his podcast this morning which the numbers are up instead of the usual 3200 6000 plus views today As I've said for weeks The international community must respond to this outrage A dictator must not be allowed to gas children in their beds with impunity

1:23:42 I love how he just writes that stuff. He put that in our clip? It's right in his speech Yes, it's right in the podcast. A dictator can't gas children in their sleep Please but they can guess him when they're awake Yeah They can they can blow them up with missiles and stuff you just can't gas him with this sleep I know isn't that it sounds so much friendlier to do when they're sleeping So here's this guy with a kind of an interesting analysis of Assad. I love his description of Assad. You wrote a really interesting profile of him He is, he is someone who has been underestimated since he came into power in 2000 and you know puts on those sort of western suits and he has that mournful mortician gaze people just think he can be had And he keeps surprising people and he's really a master propagandist

1:24:40 very, very shrewd and he's utterly cynical about this process. I poured through a lot of his interviews and he says things like you know we play a game with the UN but we don't take it seriously Let's listen really briefly to something he said to Charlie Rose just a bit of that interview from this week When you have doctor who cut the leg to prevent the patient from gangrene if you have too... We don't call him but surely call him a doctor And I thank you for saving the lives. When you have terrorism, we have war." So his idea is they're terrorists that's what it was what were doing us who work that's who are killing us who were gassing this is brilliant shrewd circular logic that started out as a youthful protest against me now that's on PBS she literally just editorialized to say he said we're gasing terrorist which she did not say

1:25:34 That's crazy. Decades of authority and rule by his family, he knows that the way to him to hang on power is just sort of put this as a sectarian war that if his minority Alawites and the Christians in the Druze lose they'll be slaughtered so he lets the jihadists out of his own prison he sends these thugs into Sunni areas to rape and pillage and then puts it on YouTube inviting jihadis in and then he gets a sectarian civil war so this is how shrewd he is The word terrorist is all Is that before he has a dinner with John F Carey and Teresa Hines? Or after he's driving around Damascus with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, which both happened. And the guy is a dentist! With a lisp...

1:26:20 Wow, see that's why I'm so happy that on Thursday we played a whole bunch of clips from the interview because when you take stuff out of context it's so... and this is PBS! This is supposed to be highbrow stuff. Who is this guy? Who's the guy that's uh... He's like one of some writer for one of the papers and he did a big profile of Assad and found him to be sinister devil. And then also when he discusses it, because it says it was circular logic I don't know what he's talking about Is that like skip logic only in 360 degrees That's exactly what it is Congratulations John you were- You nailed it

1:27:02 You nailed it. I did? Yes! Vladimir Putin's New York Times op-ed written by Ketchum PR Yeah, yeah there you go You nailed it before anyone else was talking about this. You nailed it. Ketchum since 1996 has been a of course they're part of Omnicom They have I think a 26 million dollar billing with 23 million dollars in fees and expenses for its Russian account well as 17 million for Gazprom the state-controlled energy giant and so they they helped write if not write the entire Vladimir Putin op-ed, as you correctly predicted. Good job! Thank You And while on that you sent me this I had an interesting conversation with one of the VPs have another one of these agencies was this Edelman thing? No This is from Fleischmann and apparently that one of their accounts is

1:28:03 That piece I wrote that you cited about where I think all these guys should be voted out of office and they're a bunch of criminals. Apparently the Fleischman has Huawei as one of their clients, and apparently one had the big shots in Huawei thinks it was the greatest thing he's ever read Really? Yeah so i said well you know they should probably send in a donation Well you sent me this thing which I put in the show notes, which is Edelman PR. The sponsored content report? Yeah isn't that cool Oh my god! And actually let's just since we're gonna... This is actually maybe a good time to talk about this for second You have to see this. You'll find it in the show notes at 548.nashownotes.com under the heading BogativePR and let me just bring it up here It's sponsored content

1:28:55 A broader relationship with the US news media. The first in a series of special reports by Steve Rubell, and we know Steve Rubell he's been a blogger for 1,000 years hasn't he? Yeah and in fact it was Steve who personally sent me this note Really did he know that we were going to ridicule him and his report I don't think he listens to this show Well essentially, it's just example after example of NBC News the Atlantic Salon Slate all doing sponsored content. Just your... I mean just one after another. Why don't you explain to people what sponsored content is specifically? I don't think anybody really understands this is going on or what it even means well You'll have for instance here's USA Today. Oh, I'm sorry NBC

1:29:47 Today's show, well this is a very simple example. Five tips to de-stress your skin and it is essentially a commercial for product which will be the number two or the number one tip. And remember the time we play these clips constantly because we spot these sponsored content things and we ridicule them on an individual basis, but if you remember the time that Fox guys are out of The Five were all eating McDonald's burgers? Oh yeah! But not just that... CNN was eating the Taco Bell healthy salad and that's pretty blatant but if you look at some other stuff and here is the interesting thing

1:30:29 Google and Matt cuts is cited in this article haircuts. Google is trying to fight this and It's obvious why they want to fight it because google needs to have a piece of everything So you see, you can't like slip something into your blog post Google is actively trying to stop you from from doing the sponsored content Because you know then it's not part of their gig Greg, they're not making any money. Why should they let it go? Yeah! So they won't. They penalize you for it. This whole internet advertising thing is a Ponzi scheme It's going to come crashing down one day and there will be like five guys making money Right which is why we don't take part

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1:32:05 Did you see that? Yeah. If you have a whole campaign that runs for like, a month it could be 100 grand! Yeah yeah this is the problem is though the media's completely compromised. It's hopeless. Anyway yeah that's a great piece Armando Martinez I want to thank a bunch of people including well start with Ryan M rose in Everett Washington $134 Armando Martinez under twenty one dollars and 21 cents, and he's also as once wish himself a birthday Happy Birthday. We've got him on the list He's in Reynosa Mexico Ian Kath and West End Queensland $100 rad do per tuck 8888 gross Isle Michigan ice I am Eric Emma

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1:33:43 Okay, I mean you know. I think you need to do some work anyway So Michael Schumacher came with two 6969 in a row and he blames himself for the streak disappearing because this was supposed to come in earlier Okay, okay so posthumous swazzle enough is that we're saying? I'm just I don't know I'm just I have no take it. I'll take it. I'll take it I can't have the I can't believe Swazilov has done You know we need our 69 karma Those of us who still perform the act Mac tank is in with 6969 and he also is a gonna be a black knight. Oh, I believe Yes, I see he has his accounting here and I see him on the list as a black knight lovely Michael Greer no He's going to be a baronet that she's going sir. He's gone. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to a baronet Okay well you already was a black knight

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1:41:03 who today becomes a baronet, we'll put that in the credits right there in the show notes at 548.nashownotes.com NPR has an interim chief as the member Gary Nell he left that was the guy who what is it? He was running Sesame Street and now he's going to I think National Geographic so here's the headline kind of interesting because it gives you some insight into the money So NPR, they paid off his salary and he's leaving early. They're also reducing their staff by 10% because the budget for 2014 get this so this is NPR This is radio. This isn't the radio and this is the syndicate yes They have investment revenues they call them operating in investment revenues ie underwriters and sponsorships or advertising call it what you want

1:42:06 of $178 million dollars. And this is how they run their business, expenses of $183 million dollars! On what? What did they spend all this money on?! Well... Oh that's right they built a big building and all their equipment is new Yeah That's unbelievable How can you not make money in radio on 178 million dollars a year? It's a mystery And this is not the member stations, this is just the programming that they buy and syndicate out to the stations. And they produce a few things I'm sure? Yeah but yeah so it's American you know some of them did but they buy stuff from American public media and all these kinds of deals. Well that's big dough! That's huge dough. Well they should do some sponsored shows you know have the Get Ahold Of Rubel

1:43:07 Content do a sponsored content, which I'm sure they already do come on October 26 2007 that was our first our first show so So with all the numbers we threw out there. We didn't hit the 26 no we had 23 28 25 I don't even know what day it is today It is, let me see if I can click on the computer. It's the 15th. Yes it is the Ides of September. Alright I'm gonna be... So here's a little twist in the news that is interesting. Okay We have a cycle of, you know cycles are what they are and by the way this is Juan Gonzales on Democracy Now! The New York City elections This guy says uh more than anyone ever

1:44:05 And it's really unfortunate because he is a anchor of a major Broadcast yeah kind of the talking thing is something you want to have down if you're an anchor Yes, and your under gonna be on the television. They can be looking at in somebody like me's gonna be ringing bells I just did it so So-so This is a story that I think we have to discuss just for a moment, which is the Juan Gonzales on New York City elections and what has happened... What is going to happen in New York. Hold on one second John! I seem to be missing a clip here. I have Juan Gonzalez 2? Well isn't that interesting You don't have Juan Gonzalez on NYC elections? No It should be right next to it Well its not hold on a second maybe for some reason they get downloaded Let me double check That's weird

1:44:58 I will set it up. It'll take me, you know 30 seconds to find it All right So he play one Gonzales two and you kind of get first of all the guy who's gonna win as a Democrat in New York is gonna win the mayor or when they run that run against the Republican who's gonna get no votes apparently they hit the lead Republican guy I have sponsored but I have the original I haven't I haven't now I got okay The original guy was sponsored by the Koch brothers got less votes than as a Republican in New York than Anthony Weiner did. All right, this is Juan González on the New York City elections Well, Juan, the New York City primary just took place. And while the results are still up in the air—at least in the Democratic primary—and you've been writing about this on The New York Daily News? Yes, but I think the trend is by now pretty obvious. What's been happening is that I think that New York City is on the cusp of electing perhaps its most progressive government

1:45:57 uh... in the past of fifty years uh... that did you have on the one hand and what's gotten most of the attention is to mayoral race so where are bill de blasio is now in the lead and um... most likely will be the democratic nominee i think he just fell but not she's just over the forty percent threshold ought to go into feeding the several other opponents like john and i'm most likely won't need off his horrible Know I can't ring the bell. Oh you wouldn't hear a word He said do you know what this is? This is cuz he's off script and when guys like this don't have a teleprompter or don't have a script This happens, and it's a it's a programming loop It's a problem And her his co-host Amy there she should say something about it to him privately after the show hey one dude I agree yeah, this is I mean you and I do this all the time

1:46:50 We try and stop each other. I'm saying from doing something stupid, saying so uh huh. Well right. But this guy's going the uh the and the uh the And there is a whole nother minute of it. Even if he falls below 40% threshold as they count 15 thousand or so absentee ballots, I think it's likely the other Democratic Democratic contenders will unite behind him. And de Blasio really ran a very progressive race, focusing in on income inequality in New York City—the 47 percent of New Yorkers are at or

1:47:27 near the poverty level and talking about the need to rein in all the tax breaks, developers and business community. And increase taxes on the wealthy to pay for a better public education and expanded preschools. Sorry I can't. Is there is it second clip like that as well? I think the second clip may be worse. Oh, no has a lot of double us Okay, so let's that's how much does this guy make a cup a couple million a year? Yeah easy so here's the New York City is going progressive This is after they had Giuliani and then Bloomberg takes over the place and they clean the town up I'm telling you

1:48:16 We're going right back to hookers. New York is gonna go back to the old days when Dinkins was running the place It's gonna deteriorate like crazy and I'm telling you hooker are gonna be everywhere in New York now is the time to get ready to start going And so you had a in in Brooklyn or in the Bushwick of Williamsburg area Antonio Reynoso, a young a progressive latino with the beaten old guard of popo party boss veto lopez would've been uh... who'd uh... ruled central north brooklyn for you know four years uh... and uh... you had our people like other first mexican-american on looks like to be in city council are close to mid jacob now justin analyzes for second this off thing

1:49:05 So typically these stop words are used when your brain is thinking about what you're going to say next. It feels like he's worried someone is going to interrupt him That's also when people use these types of words, when they want to keep the conversation going Keep the air polluted... Well that's what the Hummers do Yeah but this may be his version of a hummer This could be um there you go A Gonzales Hummer Maybe. I'm not sure. What do you mean why? Why is that going to happen. Because they're gonna, first thing that's gonna happen is a lot of businesses are gonna bail out because they're going to gouge the rich. It's not like when you work in New York there was this city income tax it's taxed up the butt

1:50:02 they're gonna take the progressives every time they come into New York, they liberalize everything. Oh you can't go, you rousing those poor working women that are just trying to make a living by being hookers so that hooker's come back, the peep shows come back, the mob gets involved because these labor unions are favored, the police union makes it easier for everyone more corruption is going to... New York does this it goes through these cycles and when the progressives No offense to you progressive listeners, but when they get a hold of New York it just goes down the tubes fast. It gets dirty people are peeing in the streets the old jokes come back The hookers are everywhere I'm gonna hound on that point apparently and So get ready because this is what you're gonna get no more of this big daddy Bloomberg stuff anyway That's my Redbook prediction now

1:51:00 You know, New York is already such an interesting place or what it's become. Did you see this video of this guy who jacked his E-ZPass? No. Okay, so apparently he presented this at maybe DEF CON or something So he jacked his EZ Pass to alert him whenever his RFID was being read Isn't it a version of RFID? That's great! Yeah it is. Right, so he has a video of him driving around New York like every four minutes this thing has gone off You're being read everywhere with your EZ Pass

1:51:37 They're tracking your movement with your E-ZPass. It's not just at the bridge or the tunnel, it's throughout the whole city! Oh I didn't know this... Yeah! Well that must be very easy to solve. You buy some lead foil... Right but you can get lead foils very easily and you just take your pass and wrap in in the foil until you need to use it Thought it was pretty interesting is a great. You know it doesn't surprise me No, it doesn't surprise me the great couple of videos of him driving So he's being so in other words with your easy and the easy passes are different than your typical RFID It's a little stronger the circuits a little more sensitive I think it has a battery and a transmitter and stuff does no there's no battery Oh really yeah

1:52:31 Well, it's all induction. It's just a he's got a big powerful circuit It's looking for anything and it could be triggered It may be a lot of false positives because the thing is so well If you look at the if you look at his video and of course in the show notes He's there's these readers around town now You know what to look for that as like little almost like little mini handbags And they're hanging off of light poles And the official response is, oh no we use this for traffic flow and to see how things are working out. You know stuff like that but I would call it tracking It makes sense! I would call it just tracking slave tracking is what I call it Yeah slave tracking Slave tracking which is what your iPhone is Your iPhone is a slave tracker yeah you can get lead foil as the best bet unless you know how to make a little Faraday cage which works best but the lead foil

1:53:27 Fine it's great cheap not aluminum foil It has to be lead foil and can you get a little proper foil would do the same but copper is too expensive lead foil is cheap right on the bit message so bit message, you know that's uh That is the kind of peer-to-peer Bitcoin type of email system and we have that you can do channels. So let's say we have this no agenda channel The no agenda channel is you know because of the nature of it. It can be completely anonymous but a lot of producers Who I think normally wouldn't maybe wouldn't send something are now putting stuff on there and this showed up This is regarding the the TTIP and the course my thesis about all of this Syria business really being about the transatlantic

1:54:23 Trade and investment partnership between the United States and the EU so that we can ship all of our gas over there This is happening with Asia at the same time, so we can ship all of our gas over to Japan Handy that Japan is now shutting down. All those all of their nuclear reactors 30% of their energy already was coming from a nuclear actors another that will increase for them The gas that will be shipping off to them So here's what showed up on the bit message channel. I thought it was very interesting This guy is obviously a trader as in trade or as in stocks and bonds, etc He says I wanted to check out Adams theory on Syria and natural gas when I heard the show The first thing I wondered was how could I play this in the market? That's actually they do that's actually the first thing we wondered like how can we play this in the market? so the first thing that came to mind was the ticker you NG and

1:55:20 which tracks the price of natural gas through the use of futures contracts. Now this is the stuff that you always talk about, John, about the puts and calls and all this stuff." And so he went in and actually posted some pictures... I'll just read it. I don't know exactly what this means but after hearing Adam's theory, I went to see if there was anything interesting showing up in the option data for UNG The first thing I checked was something called the strike peg Are you familiar with this term John? The strike peg Well the strike peg I think has to do with the point where the, uh... I think that's either a break-even point or something like that. Not sure The strike peg is calculated by taking all of the open interest and determining what price the stock would need to be on expiration day in order for most option contracts to expire worthless Right The idea is it's likely where the price will land on that expiration

1:56:18 Okay, can you translate that to normal speak? It's the number it's the there's a estimated at some point the option expires when it expires There is a difference between what the option is worth and the amount of The price of this of the stock is essentially you if you're gonna if you're gonna buy us say You're selling at 20. Let's make it a call because it's hard easier to deal with Say you spent five bucks to buy 100 shares at $30 a share. And you, the stock has to be at 35 for you to make any money because your five bucks is included so it has to get to $35 and then you break even if it goes to 40 you make 5 bucks on your investment or you've doubled your money and I mean that's why options are so interesting just cause you can make

1:57:16 three, four or five X your investment. But if you don't hear that... But if it comes in at 25 bucks? You lose everything! Okay all right so he went into this and he says and he has all these charts and he says I found the action most interesting in the January 2015 option so I dug a little bit deeper Wow 166 thousand open interest standing out like a sore thumb Maybe that option is just crazy popular. Let me look at an hourly chart and he goes further So I'm gonna skip a little ahead to his analysis all of the action is for the January 2015 $17 put

1:57:59 So that's betting on it going down? Yeah. Okay, what we do not know is whether or not the major player was buying or selling that's 166 000 of these things right this is a problem because you can sell and if you buy a put you can sell the put which is the same as buying there should be some side and I you know where it gets complicated to me is where people are buying buying and selling puts, buying and selling calls. And then they push them off against each other in such a way that whatever happens they make money. And that's really where the superstars all reside. All right let me just finish reading what he writes here because this is very mind-boggling stuff but you know this could be huge if we knew... Let me continue okay open interest only tells you what contract is open

1:58:55 What we also know is that they did not buy the contracts and then sell to close them. If that was happening, the open interest would decrease from experience I can tell you that the major players do not buy time The major players in the market only sell time which leads me to believe That this was a massive contract selling event Here it comes! The ideal scenario for someone selling this much action would be that UNG would be well over $17 when the expiration comes due January 2015. If that happens, the contracts they sold for 45 million dollars in early August would expire worthless and they would simply keep that money What does this mean for UNG stock?

1:59:36 Well, not wise to simply say that UNG is going to go up forever from here. The short-term market is the trader's domain so I would not advise anyone to plow their money into UNG What it does mean is that UNG is extremely likely to be more than $17 come January 2015 I'll be parking some of my investment this guy this guy's obviously knows what he's talking about Seriously, but I don't know what at. What level is does he if I think if you have a Bloomberg terminal You can determine whether this was a virus No, well this I don't know we're right now. It's okay, but right now UNG is it 19? Hmm so that means it's going down and

2:00:20 I don't understand any of this. No, no... Can I make money is my question? You're not gonna make it unless it's your job Hey John can I make some dough off of this? We can go to the horse track Yeah! Hore track?! And at the horse tracks by the way you know... Now am I going tell them a horse joke forget it All right, let's take a listen to just a small hit of the Iraq news. Here is the Iraq news. New violence erupted today across Iraq and Afghanistan in Bakuba northeast of Baghdad. A bomb exploded at a Sunni mosque killing 33 people and wounding at least 45 others. The attack continued almost nonstop bloodshed that began in April. The UN estimates more than 4,000 Iraqis have died since then

2:01:12 Well, there you have it. That's the dying left and right in Iraq good work I thought was that war over? Have we withdrawn? I don't understand Yeah yeah no we're done with any of it. And this is the Afghanistan news, so we can keep up with that. Afghanistan news? Okay. There we go. And in Afghanistan a U.S consulate came under Taliban attack. It happened in the western city of Herat which had been considered one of the safer areas of the country. The militants triggered multiple car bombs touching off a firefight with security forces no Americans were hurt but at least four Afghans died and 17 people were wounded. Later, US officials said that all consulate personnel had temporarily been moved to Kabul." And of course it's just we've done such a great job I'm you know maybe we should go into Syria We've made a mess everywhere Which is exactly what we want and the president is scheduled to go to Asia in October To complete the deals

2:02:18 I think he's doing a good job. Perfect! Yeah, we got nothing to worry about. We're on easy street. How is everything else looking for your October demise of the markets? Well if they put Larry Summers in then I suspect the worst will happen but we'll see because now they are starting to push back on the guy Yeah, he seems to be ruin it for everybody seems to be almost begging to because and what's in there a woman that they're looking at putting in there? Yeah I think the assistant to burn anchor this second-in-command on the Federal Reserve So she supposed to be pretty talented. She and she as far as she's concerned. She'll keep the printing presses going I was reading about The the auto loans possibly being the next you know like the next bust

2:03:05 But apparently these auto loans, which some of them are now like a hundred months or whatever and they're also being securitized and broken up into pieces. And I think auto loans... people are buying more cars aren't they? But now that you mention it, there's an awful lot of good deals out there on the loans. They give you no interest for 60 months and no payments. I mean it just... Right? Yeah, I guess but I don't know. But I think what happens is if your credit score goes up because all APR which means this adjustable isn't it your rate? Adjustable something yeah what does APR stand for stands for adjustable. I thought it was adjustable prime rate maybe

2:03:47 The way I understand some of these loans, and I can't get one by the way because they won't give me one. What do you do for a living? A podcaster? No sorry that's not on our list now if you worked at McDonalds yeah then we'll give you alone. I think if your FICA your is it your FICA your FISA what are your score your FICA FICA Is that FICA no yeah FICA If that score goes down then your interest rate goes up Yes, I'm okay. It's a scam it's just to take our money right but that you know bits home see I have the note here Just pay cash for everything more than 1.5 million Cars sold in August. That's a lot of cars man pay cash for everything By used hmm yep podcasters can do that? That's what I always say okay There's some interesting things happening in Quebec

2:04:47 And I got a nice note from one of our producers up there and i thought it would be worth having a quick chat about it. This is about the new charter that they want, now Quebec I think don't they have like what does the deal with Quebec's government? Are they separatist or do they want to be different from Montreal? No no that died off more or less There's a bunch of separatists still in Canada, but generally speaking that's not what the main thing is going on at the moment. Okay so here is the issue... Not as long as Alberta's cranking out the money! Right well this isn't this is uh right and this is Quebec and here's the issue they're having they want to there's this charter I think they call it a charter and the idea is to prohibit

2:05:37 the wearing of religious symbols, but this is meant primarily for head scarves. Right, the hajib. Yes prevent that to be worn by anyone in a government position which also you know means I think school teachers may as it is a go are they government employees in Quebec? Yeah sure so one of our producers clipped actually quite an nice amount of audio from what's going on up north. Let me see, so here is a quick little intro I think of the issue. Today the provincial government has released in broad strokes what it intends-a ban on public sector employees wearing overt religious symbols that would include the hijab, the kippah, the turban and in some cases the crucifix

2:06:29 So here is the issue, I think it's all in the numbers. We receive 55 thousand immigrants a year, the highest level probably on earth and we broadly accept them in our nation but they must integrate you change country to change country This is the core issue and I think I can speak a little bit to this having lived and actually grown up in Amsterdam And I and this is quite a kind of a heated debate. I had this morning with Miss Mickey We're talking about this because I asked her as a point-blank What do you what is your feeling about the scarves that you see in Amsterdam? and she says it really bothers her and And when you think about it on at face value, you know It's just a piece of clothing right doesn't really mean all that much but

2:07:21 But the real, what I think is interesting is that the conversation is about scarves and crucifixes and you know other pieces of clothing but not really about the true issue which is this huge amount of immigrants coming into countries And I've seen this in the Netherlands. I've seen it in Belgium of course we know what's happening in Scandinavia and not just a lack of integration but almost ghettoizing Of these cultures in certain spots within these in these large Western cities right and and It's funny because this producer Devon

2:07:57 He has the very I think very liberal stance on it and and I'm you know, I don't give a crap First of all, I think that's the scarves are sexy. That's just my personal thing But they represent something else They represent the women our second-class citizens in in this culture And he says I don't know if you've gotten any clips from anyone else in Quebec. I don't know I said the only reason i care is because my anglophone daughter, which i think it's a great term by the way. Anglophone? I hadn't heard of that but that's the big term they're using up there now which means you speak english My anglophone daughter went to a francophone daycare and the woman who became like a second mother to her wears a headscarf! I am overjoyed knowing that my little girl will always look at a scarf with warmth and affection rather than fear and uncertainty." And like... That's a very liberal stance on this

2:08:50 And what I've seen is it doesn't work very well. Now Amsterdam, the majority in the city is Muslim not integrated with the traditional Dutch culture and its tension It's a powder keg and you get really bad things that happen in these countries Do you have any feeling on this John? What this would mean for Quebec or in general Well, I don't like generally speaking it's a statement to me when you see here in the United States you see some woman who

2:09:28 It's not really even a Muslim thing. It was promoted by, it's Arab. It's an Arab concept the headscarf because the woman is considered to be chattel. Slave! Okay so far you're hitting all of the positive buttons yes? And I consider it like in your face statement I still remember this one guy who was discussing this on probably one of the PBS shows, he said about Sikh. And he had a towel on his head. He was young kid and moved to the United States and cut off his hair because

2:10:11 because that's what seeks their hair is they let it grow forever and keep it in the turban. And he cut his hair off, and his father came over to visit him, and they chewed him out, chewed out the son, and the son said look I'm in a different culture this isn't the way its done here, I am living here now, I can't...I'm not sticking to the old ways that were from parts of northern India. It was like this tension between modern and traditional And it's like when you wear the traditional stuff, you're throwing into people's faces. In other words they're saying to me, You and your culture suck! And I'm gonna wear this because our old culture from the 1400s is better than your new sucky culture and i think that's an insult to the public especially when you change countries

2:11:07 I think it would change countries. If i go and move to Dubai, let's say Saudi Arabia and everyone's...and I have to wear the dish dash that outfits or whatever they let me uh what you know all right but I don't bitch and moan that I can't get a beer Right. I mean, oh this is terrible we have to have protests in the street because they can't get a beer idea you know? I would just adopt the customs of the country and if i'm moving to it and then when I leave I'd go back or not doesn't make any difference but If you're going there just be antagonistic It doesn't seem like a positive thing right But do you think that there should be laws against it Like in France There are laws This has been banned No this another issue I mean This is part of the problem

2:11:49 instead of trying to just get people, you know to convince them not to do this. To make laws against it I just think exacerbates the problem. I don't know what to do about it! Well I was just curious...I mean this is a hotbed we don't get to talk about Quebec often and we certainly don't have clips from Quebec ever Yeah no I don't like the uh but then again there's too many elements This is a big sociological issue that is hard to either discuss or make sense of. Now we have this if you walk in Los Angeles, if you're down there past West Hollywood, you'll get all the Hasidic Jews with their curly Q hair and the hats and everything which by the way I think the hats are cool too but that doesn't seem to be a problem... it seems like in America this is not such an issue like whatever you want to wear dude fine

2:12:47 You know what I mean? Or is that just my imagination, am i just... I think we're pretty open to letting people do their own thing. Yeah and but integrate it's not like they're not all put into um they don't... That's because there's not enough of them Bring em on! Bring more in then we'll ghettoize him later Ah there you go that's a tip from Noah Jenda bring him in and ghettoize him later perfect Here's a good story from California talking about the liberals in California. Play the illegals get two licenses clip. Oh God, yes! Governor Jerry Brown announced today that he will sign a bill authorizing illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses. California would be the 10th state take that step The State Assembly also passed a bill last night that allows undocumented immigrants to become practicing lawyers I can't even become a lawyer

2:13:45 Now this is, I actually laughed out loud. That's great! Yeah you're an illegal immigrant in California and you can get past the bar? What?! That's great...I can't wait At California where they also I guess that they're raising the minimum wage to $10 dollars an hour now yeah doesn't this not gonna work out well we just kind of left service the way i see it Probably. They think we'd have just less people doing stuff Well, that's what the argument is is that you get the... You have to keep the minimum wage low to keep people I don't know People should be getting $10 an hour minimum anyway Otherwise it was just a joke What was the point? Got some interesting report here from UT Arlington Headline Youth more likely to be bullied at schools with anti-bullying programs

2:14:57 Oh, there you go. I didn't know it could be a bully! So from the executive summary one possible reason for this is that the students who are victimizing their peers have learned the language from these anti-bullying campaigns and programs This kind of goes to our whole thesis if you tell someone about the bad things in the medication they'll want it more? Yeah kinda So they're learning the bullying language from the anti-bullying materials. Well, you know the kids have to learn and by the way I want to mention something we have this a teaser for The Thursday Show tonight is Miss America

2:15:45 Oh, that's right. And everyone is talking about this girl with the tattoos? Is she on it? She has a publicist system some girls got a bunch of tattoos on her side that are like its got a credo I believe to be Hannah by the way but its a bunch and she's a shooter and shoots a bow and arrow and she actually kind looks white trashy to me I don't think she has shot at even getting in top 10. And I think her legs are little short She doesn't, she's not... believe me. Miss America Diamond doesn't miss America if she doesn't qualify By the way ladies and gentlemen this is what John does I mean I read legislation This is my..I get to do this on a couple of times, four times a year We have these competitions and we'll be getting clips And there should be some gems Bitchin' moanin about really the most beautiful girl never wins Because she doesn't put out

2:16:36 And I'll have some report back on Thursday, short report. But yeah this woman has been getting a lot of publicity. What's nice is that she was in the armed forces and she hunts... Turns out she's in the National Guard or something. Well that's good too. National Guard okay well it's good enough for me. She hunts with a bow And she's a good shot, and she's got a bunch of tattoos on her side that say I can't get to look her up But you could read it. It's it's a kind of what is it here? It is This is the Teresa Theresa Vails her name and she's your Common thing she says God grant me the courage to change the things I can and what state is she from oh

2:17:28 Where is she from? I think she's from Missouri or someplace. She's from the Midwest, I believe That's a good question. I should know Miss Kansas. It's miss Kansas. Oh okay She has her website that's bullcrap A blog that just started last December and it's and she blogs once a month And she has this on her... Wait a minute you went and looked at her blog I figured this would come up in the conversation. No, you know...I found her very annoying and it bothered me that there was obviously a publicity stunt going on here and i was trying to track down who might be behind it but I think she just...her and her boyfriend Alright so everyone's getting in on this uh and we have a question from our judge Mr. Dvorak your question for Miss Kansas Yeah miss Kansas do you put out

2:18:14 You put out. Sorry! Grant me the serenity to accept that this is what's on her, this is her tattoo God grant me the serenity to accept that things I cannot change courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference That's a Serenity Prayer Yeah well it's on the side of her, maybe make her look thinner Clearly you know when there's just...I mean this is just a Trump operation isn't not? This Miss America, no this is the Trump competitor. Oh well... Miss America's the original old competition. Well this is good because I mean this girl will not win but she's made everyone aware of the competition I wouldn't have known about it otherwise. This great PR! Yeah but- You're doing sponsored content aren't you? I'm getting paid $10,000 dollars Okay So anyway so she's gonna be on the show and I'm sure she's gonna be interesting And this is tonight

2:19:10 Yes, tonight. Tonight's the night but wait a minute tonight we have Breaking Bad and newsroom not me not me I'm doing my job tonight You're working tonight? I'm working tonight on this done a crummy competition by the way Did you read that thing that came out in Ace of Spades about Glenn Greenwald and they yes Yeah In fact fairly I put I put these in the show notes actually this is in regards to Glenn Greenwald possibly writing the acceptance speech for Snowden and Yeah, go ahead. This is all dates back to two and apparently if you go on one of the websites where there a bunch Of comments on was something he's done He apparently is writing comments under a bunch of pseudonyms well There was a there was a period in 2006 The so-called Greenwald sock puppet theory that period sock puppet And and he had magic boyfriends

2:20:06 It's kind of funny because he would write so you basically there would be comments on pieces about him under different names like Allison and There are some other names that were used but they would all come from his IP address And he and so he got basically nailed on this. And here's what he wrote a new accusation is that I've been engaging in so-called sock puppetry by leaving comments in response to posts that attack me under other names, i.e., that I use multiple names to comment and the same comment was left at several blogs by the same IP address under different names? Not frequently! I leave comments on blogs which criticize or respond to something I have written. I always –in every single instance– use my own name when doing so. I have never left a single comment at any other blog using any other name than my own...at least not since I began blogging

2:21:07 IP addresses signify the internet account one uses, not any one individual. Those in the same household have the same IP address." In response to personal attacks that have been oozing forth these last couple of weeks... ...others left comments responding to them and correcting factual inaccuracies as I did. In each case when I did it, I used my own name! So this is his magic boyfriend who has four or five of them in the house And they... He might! He very well might. But it kind of, you can't overlook that part of him and by the way I've done this myself

2:21:48 No, yeah of course. I think you're famous for doing it on your own wiki page well that was different I didn't I didn't say that it wasn't me? I just didn't register. I just went and changed stuff not knowing that you couldn't change your own wiki page Which I think is the dumbest thing ever What was um that was actually a piece on the newsroom that was kind of funny they slammed Wikipedia about that No, that was in 2005 but then I was accused of Changing history to make myself look better. That was the part that was fucked up only what? Yeah said the do with invention of the podcast yeah like I changed it too You know like um like I'm Thomas Edison trying to fuck Nikola Tesla Who needs DC

2:22:38 Yeah, but I know. I've certainly gone into the twitch chat room through a proxy under assumed names and have been busted for it Yeah, they catch you real fast. Oh yeah those guys are good then they got Nazis over there because of what you post What do you mean? I so easy to find you in there Are you on today? Leo should be having sex with the woman. No, no I think I said when is Leo having sex? When are you there today yeah, I am oh great cuz I know don't I have the time Yeah, I caught one of those 15-second commercials Oh good her Burger King I believe and

2:23:22 And it came after a Cialis commercial and it just seemed like an odd... It's a good combo. It was the Cialis commercial, then a commercial where a woman says I don't know why Bill or Jim or whatever her partner's name doesn't take me south of the equator It's like a phrase. And I'm thinking, wait a minute this has got sexual overtones! Sounds like it... So play this and tell me what you think. If you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision Or if you have any allergic reactions such as rash, hive swelling of the lips tongue or throat or difficulty breathing or swallowing stop taking Cialis and get medical help right away Ask your doctor about Cialis for daily use in a 30 tablet free trial

2:24:05 Crispy white meat chicken with hot and spicy buffalo sauce. Did you just take my taste buds to the equator? Rick never takes me to the Equator try the new Buffalo Chicken Strip small combo meal just $4.99 Burger King where taste is king I Said something else he never takes me to the equator Yeah, she says Rick never takes me to the equator Hmm, that's not quite the same as South of the Border. Which I think would have been better. No but it's... It depends on where your equator is exactly! Rick always takes me south of the border But you know, the voice is like oh yeah just sounds so sexy. It's like a 15 second weird commercial and what is the point in saying that Rick doesn't take her to the Equator?

2:24:52 It just sounds like some innuendo. Somebody slipped that one through. No, no it's totally innuendo of course it is! Yeah somebody slipped it through and nobody caught it I got another...I did another one of those uh...I did a what was it? Kellogg's audition Oh! Oh! I already sent it in well I'm not gonna get it Do we hear it?! You wanna hear it Yeah. Alright, okay so... Set it up for us, tell us who it's for? Okay this is for Kellogg's Master Brand the master brand is the company Kellogg. Brand? Master brands that's that's the brand they own Kellogg here I have the uh I have the instruction hold on this is so we can make money specs we are looking for a man roughly around 30 years old

2:25:38 We want a very natural laid-back read. His talent, this talent should... Man! That's what I was thinking This talent should not sound like an announcer they always say that. Yeah they always say that but then that sounds like they're bopping And then when you hear the guy it's an announcer Adam Curry Vox Agency Master Brand Kellogg You can hear i have a cold It gets even worse Every morning in every corner of the world, the golden sun cracks the horizon unleashing in a brand new day. And as each of us stirs from our slumber somewhere between half asleep and half awake lies the question what will the day ahead bring? Will it be brimming with promise and optimism that's why Kellogg's is there every morning we rise with a bowl of delicious sunshine filled possibilities

2:26:23 The goodness of grains to open our minds, warm our hearts and to help make every day a brighter one. How gay is this cereal? I don't want to eat that! We rise with the sun every morning and with Kellogg's it's our chance to shine. Alright what are my chances of getting this gig? I like you, I thought your read was quite good there was a little spotty spot in the early part i thought you were sounding too much like Adam Curry but the rest of it that was slick I would hire ya That's appreciated John and we've hired you know, you have been hired by the Dvorak Horowitz unplugged show. Yes The disclaimer guys I do the disclaimer and have received nothing not even a stock tip new cheap asses Oh, I can't give you a stock to stay out of the market. Yeah Thank you. Hey, I haven't end-of-show clip for today it's a compilage done by one of our producers

2:27:19 producer is Jim Savastak and he created a little song compilation by two-and-a-half minutes of Lady Hawks. It's titled lady hawk so it's all the women in government who want to kill people in Syria or Libya. This is a good one, he said it was inspired by producer Glenn who did that other nice medley That will be our end of show clip and we will return on Thursday with another episode of the best podcast in the universe. Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA, and we'll of course have our Miss America

2:28:05 Report. Reports and probably some other stuff that's like really important, but maybe not as important as that. Well who knows? Coming to you from Austin in the morning I'm Adam Currie. And from northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. Dvorak Talked again on Thursday right here on No Agenda. President Obama did not draw the red line humanity drew it. Has our president drawn a line or redline We in the Senate, we did so. I have no doubt that chemical weapons have been used They unleashed hellish chaos and terror on a massive scale This action happened but Assad did it Every time chemical weapons are moved puts Americans at risk There is no moral equivalent They unleashed hellish chaos This action happened but Assad did it

2:29:16 We should agree that there are lines in this world that cannot be crossed and limits on murderous behavior, especially with weapons of mass destruction. Hundreds of children were killed. You can look at the children you can look at the adults who look at us More than 400 of them children In response to Bashar al-Assad's use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people, President Obama has decided that it is in the national security interest of the United States to conduct limited military strikes against the Syrian regime.

2:30:09 And I will support the targeted effort. Wait just a second! Excuse me, excuse me... The President of the United States cannot allow this to go unchecked. Any military action will be a meaningful time-limited response to deter the regime from using chemical weapons again We came, we saw, he died. They had tons and tons of stones, a devastation.

2:31:03 hundreds of children. They unleash hellish chaos and terror on a massive scale. How many more times do we have to kill them? That's one hot milf, baby! Adios, mofo.