Clip Show II

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Thursday, July 25th, 2013. Time for Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 533. This is no agenda. Coming to you from, well, kind of parts unknown, not really from anywhere. Although I'm in Amsterdam or I'm in the south of France, I don't know. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm on tape. I'm John C. Dvorak. That's right everybody, I'm here recording this for you in the lowlands although right now I'm probably enjoying my champagne soaked time in the sun in the south of France. Right, this is Clip Show 2. We've had Ramsey Cain did the clip show for us and it's in two parts. It's an outstanding clip show.

00:51 And which could even be used as a primer or a primer as you might call it. So that's a primer. Yeah. So someone who has never heard the show before is now listening to this intro going, I'm not going to listen to this crap. Listen to these guys. you should listen to it. But there's also show 200.5 which is another one you can go to the archives at noagendanation.com archives and get to show 200.5 which is a show long ago which pretty much describes the history of the show and also there's the website, the Wikipedia entry on No Agenda plus if you just google No Agenda you'll find all kinds of stuff but I think before we yak too much let's get the first part of the Clips show started. Alright hit it!

01:36 interesting yeah we're talking about screwed up politicians like i do have a before we get into the meat of the show i do have a a drunk or not drunk oh hold on a second let's uh... gets our uh... now we have to do this is a patley who is this patley he'll go patley he and you have to tell me what do you think it's the drunk or not drunk disease is you know chairing a committee marigolds okay uh... so as to record and uh... drunk And then Senator Grassley, and I'll give the last word, and we'll have a roll call vote on the final. Senator Coons. Senator Flake, brother. Senator Flake.

02:19 Just needed to file a statement for the record with regard to flake number three the amendment to clarify something on is that okay? Thank you, and that will be done. I also Without well everybody's here without objection I'd ask that the Senate legislative council Be given permission to make the usual technical and conforming changes to the bill as amended. I objection to that objection senator Coons okay no he's not drunk he's slathered is what he is he's completely just played that little beginning again he's completely obliterated now that that beginning is really good hold on a second here we go senator Cornyn and senator Grassley now I'll give the last word he's just tired he's just tired

03:07 killed here well here here of course dot org slash in a plea time for our segment slaves to get the mac and cheese mac and cheese macaroni and cheese cheddar melted together mac and cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese so i don't know what it is somehow we ride on the consciousness of of the universe but and maybe it's maybe it is because you know we we bought a three-speed bike and now you see three-speed bikes riding around everywhere but I just can't get away from it now. Oprah Winfrey opens up about the time she was depressed and scarfed down 30 pounds of mac and cheese. Okay so Oprah Winfrey but now if we had a story about mac and cheese in a cup in a mug on NPR on Thursday

03:59 Oh, but they're not stopping. Oh no, no, no! Let's return to something we've been chewing on from an earlier story in our On The Run series. In Monday's report, Araceli Flores made this observation. I could buy a box of macaroni and cheese for a dollar. A bunch of bananas will cost me over a dollar. Strawberries are four dollars. A bag of apples is going to cost me five dollars. I mean, way more pricier to buy vegetables and fruits than it is to buy boxed food. Yes, it's true. The guy you heard at the end there is Barry Popkin. He's a nutritionist and economist at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. He explained why that's true. Now notice in this report, you will not hear anyone say, it's probably better to eat the fruit. Right, than a box. This isn't even real cheese. This is cheap as a classic.

04:51 Garbage! Well here it is. We have a process package food industry which is enormously efficient. It takes a little bit of wheat, it takes a little bit of artificial cheese, it uses lots of chemicals, flavors, and it makes these magical tasty foods. Dinner! How is this guy a spokesman? Well, he's the nutritionist. I don't understand him through his lisp. Well, he's going to tell you why this is so much better to have some wheat, some artificial cheese and some chemicals. He's going to defend this? Kind of. are very inexpensive.

05:46 NPR telling you that it's obvious why we like mac and cheese and why we want more of it. So one, it's only $1 and you can't even get a banana for a dollar. The time it takes to cook a mac and cheese is very short. It's, it, it, it cooks in the microwave. And it fills you up. And it fills you up. The time it takes to cut up the strawberries, to cut up the fruit, to make it easy, it adds time. It takes so long. As time for eating mac and cheese, you got nothing but time on your hands. You're kidding. I got no time to cut the strawberry. Give me a minute. Man, I gotta eat mac and cheese and get out of here.

06:30 I'm in a hurry. I'll eat it in the car, honey. The other side is getting it from the farmer all the way through to the store, keeping it looking good and not having it spoiled takes a lot of refrigeration, takes a lot of complex steps that are very expensive. He says another factor is a long history of government subsidies for food production, but not so much for fruits and veggies. Oh, she said it too! Veggies. Veggies. Screw your veggies, slave. Have your... Veggies, I got veggies here. Screw your veggies. Have your mac and cheese, you're in a hurry. Get to your work, eat your mac and cheese in a mug on the way. Well, there is solace. Is this becoming a regular show report? Yes! The mac and cheese report. We get a jingle. We totally would. Oh, Sir Jeff Smith, where's our mac and cheese report?

07:26 Well, we need to make it a little different than just Mac and Cheese Report. It has to be living the life of, like Thug Life, you know? Like Tupac Thug Life. It'd be like Mac and Cheese Life. You know what I mean? It's like something like that. Mac and Cheese. So, just when you thought... What an idiot! That was the worst example of anything I've ever heard from NPR. And people listen to this as if it's some sort of national treasure? It's a humiliation. It's shameful. I recorded it because of course the first thing I had to watch by request was Beyond the candelabra You actually asked me if I had watched that I was like why is he asking there must be some reason for this there must be something really important about this movie if you know what John fuck you

08:15 That's two hours of my life gone for good. That was the most, I mean, it was the most senseless. It was painful. Did you watch it? Well, it took me three viewings because I got, it was, I was morbidly curious because it was a piece of crap. Let's start with that. It was the absolute, there was no reason for it. Everything was gratuitous. You know what my theory is? My conspiracy theory. is I believe after watching the movie that Michael Douglas when he was younger or maybe his dad introduced him to Liberace at some point and I think Liberace either tried something or did something or somehow offended little Michael. This is his way of getting back at him posthumously. This is a

09:07 This is not a complimentary portrayal in any sense. He's a bald pervert. yeah who is just played up as it not only a bald pervert but a a backstabber a creep this is the worst I mean if this is the his legacy is embodied in this movie Michael Douglas got back whatever justice he felt necessary to do this there's something behind the story I totally agree and and although the gratuitous ass shots of Matt what's his name Ed Damon Matt Damon I mean alright

09:44 Nice nice, but Matt. Thank you after the tenth time. I've seen you getting out of the hot loves his butt Love showing his butt with his little with his little tan line. Are you clipping your nails again? No, what are you doing? I was opening something mm-hmm so something really interesting happened yesterday John and Really? Yeah, very interesting. Okay. So we have one of our producers, Ken, produces YouTube videos under the name Arsonomics. And what he does is he takes audio from our show and then he'll make a screencast and he'll show you know the show notes and different websites that we're talking about. And it's a very entertaining way to propagate the formula. And he's done a lot of these for us so far.

10:32 And I think he actually started off by doing this with the pipelines theory, episode 381 if I'm not mistaken. And he got an email from someone who wanted to talk to the person who had done this video and he forwarded this email to me and this person reached out to me. Feras is his name and he is a producer in Damascus, a television producer in Damascus in Syria. And he says I want to interview you about the pipeline theory. Please give me a call.

11:10 I'm like, oh that's interesting. I don't think we have any listeners in Syria, do we? That we know of? Have we ever received any? We haven't had any donations from Syria that I know of. We might have, but we'd have to look it up in the database. Because of course if you think Syria, you think a bunch of bunnies in the sand, getting blown up and it's a war zone. You kind of don't expect to get a cell phone number and just, hey give me a call whenever it works for you. So last night I'm prepping the show. It's about a quarter to 12, so that's I think a quarter to 7 or a quarter to 8 in Syria. And I checked the number, it's 0963, which is the number for Syria. That's the country code for Syria. I'm like, I'll give him a call. And can you guess what the first thing is that he said to me? He's a no agenda listener. Almost as good. Yes. Hi, it's Adam Curry. Hi, how are you? I'm good. How are you?

12:08 Um, fine. Very, very interesting theory, actually. I'm really impressed. Let me ask another question. Are you the same Adam Karim? The MTV guy? What? Brother. That's me from the 80s and 90s. Did you watch that in Syria? Yes, it is an amazing show. Mr. Adam, are you interested in coming here? That makes some sense because we have a savior.

12:47 and this is a YouTube clip that has now gone viral from Benjamin Fulford. Are you familiar with his name? Benjamin Fulford has been getting a lot of exposure in the past couple of weeks. He is, as he says, a representative of the White Hat Dragon Organization. I think that's what it is, the White Dragon Organization. And this is a YouTube clip from Japan. How do you spell his name? Benjamin Fulford. F-U-L-F-O-R-D. And he did a press conference with two amazing guys, and I'm going to play you his intro because we, my friend, are saved. Fellow humans, I am Benjamin Fulford, spokesperson for the White Dragon Society. With me here is Chodoin Daigaku. He's the head of the world's martial arts societies, and if necessary,

13:36 and in an emergency he can summon up an army of 200 million people worldwide. That's 200 million ninjas, John. 200 million ninjas who can be summoned worldwide in a heartbeat. Here on my right is Alexander Romanov who is a grandmaster of an Illuminati group that claims to have started the French, Russian and American revolutions. As you may know, there has been a battle going on over the future of this planet. The western countries have been taken over by a mafia organization, all composed of members of the same clan, and they're not Jews, okay? They worship Lucifer.

14:22 And they want a world government controlled by them with the rest of us in perpetual debt slavery and drudgery and with no hope of ever ruling our own destinies. We offer a very different vision. We offer world peace. We offer $100,000 for every man, woman and child to be delivered in the form of schools, hospitals, free education, nature preserves, and all the sort of things that most people want. We all want to stop World War II. poverty we want to stop environmental destruction and we all wish to have a prosperous and happy and peaceful future and that's the alternative we are offering thank you so this guy could be a little have a little more charisma let me just read you from his blog as predicted the collapse of the Satan worshipping financial mafia is accelerating well this is the guy that's been tracking all the bankers by the way who've been quitting and leaving the 350 bankers so you know

15:25 Have learned John in my life never to laugh at the crazy guy. You also shouldn't argue with him But never that's for sure never laugh at him because that is typically the guy who is right on top of his game or Has a billion dollars to invest or I've seen it so many times that I don't laugh too hard I did have to laugh about the the guy who can summon the 200 million ninjas and This guy is fantastic. He's wearing a bowler hat. He's got a big stick with all kinds of ropes and snakes off of it. And he's got the sunglasses. I mean, not only that, he has the voice. And he believes that Putin

16:08 who is a judo student, is the right guy to lead the world and his 200 million ninjas. And listen to, because Benjamin who speaks fluent Japanese I guess, will translate, but listen to the guy's voice. He's everything you want in the ninja leader master. The power that was born from our budo, our budo, can change the world. I love Benjamin going, yeah, yeah, indeed. Yes, the international associations of Bushido, Karate, Judo, Kung Fu, etc. can muster worldwide at any given time 200 million people.

17:05 And they only fight under the code of chivalry, which is you don't attack women, children and non-combatants. Which is what the other side has been doing. I love this guy. But you know what? I bet you there's something to that. I bet you there is, you know, of all the judos, the jujitsus, all these guys, I bet you there is an organization that has like some secret network and maybe this is the guy. Yeah, sure. Listen to what he says about Putin. He believes that with Putin's help and the martial arts societies worldwide we can cause major change. And of course,

17:55 the Illuminati who are throughout the Western intelligence agencies, military, and this is not the Italian Illuminati, this is the Gnostic Illuminati, and they want meritocracy, ruled by the people who are the best, people who work their way up the system, not people who were born into it and have it given to them even though they are often not very bright. So, it's funny? But I'm not really laughing too hard because I am. Okay. I knew you'd appreciate it. Oh, yeah. No, I like that guy's voice, too. He's good. He looks the part though. He is so awesome. He's so awesome. Putin. Putin's the man. Putin is going to save us, my friend. So just the last thing I have is a Feinstein, get her gun to control.

18:51 meetings on the hill. Three hours, it was long. Yeah, the only thing that was good was the end where she forgot to call... she forgot that her set up man was sitting there patiently waiting, Blumenthal from Connecticut to... and she's gonna close and she's just damn near says thank you for being here this meeting is closed and she almost did it but then she realized that she'd screwed up because the whole dog and pony show was just about to begin but here have her play the forgets Blumenthal clip. For your service to our country. If I could have just We're gonna, oh, Senator Blumenthal, take some extra time. I am so sorry. Well, you know, Madam Chairman, thank you. I know that in the Senate, freshman senators are supposed to be seen and not heard, but I'm happy to be heard today. You've got it. I want to begin by thanking you, Madam Chairman, for your... Okay, you can kill it. Because for the next five minutes...

19:54 what for the next five minutes only does this kisser ass oh yeah yeah not but then but then the most I think shameful display I've ever seen in a congressional hearing follows and with it also interesting comment he makes with the when I with the clip CT senator okay it's not it's not loading for some reason hold on and there it is there it is and the simple blunt fact is that This issue was thought to be politically untouchable two months ago. We would not be here today without the horrific Newtown tragedy. So I want to begin by asking my fellow citizens of Connecticut, most particularly the members of the Newtown community, Sandy Hook Promise, the Newtown Action Alliance, as well as the

20:47 families who had victims to please stand so that we can thank you publicly for your courage and your strength in this extraordinary historic moment. Thank you. Let's give him a round of applause. What? Wow. First of all he admits that the whole gun control thing stems from the event. Yeah, it wouldn't have happened at all. Yeah, wouldn't happen at all, no chance. But luckily, luckily for the... and here's our, you know, the people that made it possible. It's like, I'm surprised they didn't bow like they would on the stage. All you needed to say is... As always for joining us. Good to be here, Brolf. That's all you gotta say. That's all you need. Just throw out a Brolf. Have you heard of the Moonlight Towers in Austin?

21:34 No. So we have these, they were put up in the late 1800s, these 15 foot, I'm sorry, 160, 165 foot towers that are spread out around the town and they are meant to be a facsimile of moonlight. And they function quite well actually. I mean it's like there's a full moon over Austin in town. And I'd never noticed this, I didn't know that these towers existed but they were pointed out to me last night. And these were put in place in 18... 85 after the servant girl annihilator was raging rampant in Austin, Texas killing servant girls. And he actually has a wiki page, the servant girl annihilator. And he was just killing servant girls, started first black girls then white girls.

22:34 I like really kind of like Jack the Ripper style in fact it was the same time some people even think Jack the Ripper was the annihilator that he got on a boat and went to London later and because everyone was so freaked out about this guy they put up these moon towers. Well it turns out looking at the Moonlight towers are lighting structures designed to illuminate the city at night. The structures were popular across the country. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, they had an Austin, Detroit, New Orleans, San Jose. uh... which i've should do is to me yeah i'd never heard of these and it looks like there's still a bunch of them besides the one in austin i guess there's a san jose had one but they tore it down and it was built in eighteen eighty one yeah which i'd believe was that this would really era this was that this was the early version of street lighting right

23:27 Across the United States, they're most common in the 1880s, 1890s. Some places they were used, they were probably put in Austin because of this annihilator. Yes. Because they were maybe resistant, resisting. I just love the fact that they came up with the name for a serial killer in 1880 called the Servant... None of this is new. Servant Girl Annihilator. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a show title by the way. Servant Girl Annihilator. Coming to you soon. Starring Jack Black. That was really bad. So did you get to do you see these towers because yeah, because we were out there There's several and I think there's there's 20 or 25 in Austin and the house that we were at You know, they were saying oh, there's there's a moonlight tower. I'm like what it looks like this. There's a stadium nearby No, no, and then you look at it and you realize it's not a state. It's not stadium lighting. It's a moonlight tower It's it's very different from stadium lighting. I

24:24 I was like, oh, and then people were laying into this whole story. I'm like, okay. How tall is it? Because the one they're showing here in San Jose when it was there, it's not there obviously anymore. One, two, three, four, five, six, it's about 15 stories high. It's like 160 feet high. It's high. It's up there. It's up there for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, here's the moonlight tower in... no, we're at the restaurant once. Moonlight Tower in Austin, this is a little different than the original ones. The original ones were big tripods. This is a straight up thing. Yeah, it's like a water tower except there's no thing on top. There's a lighting on top. Yeah. Yeah. It's serious business, man. Serious business.

25:06 Apparently in Austin, which I guess has the most of them, they had in 1976, they had one on 4th and Nueces. The one on Monroe Street and 1st is still there. Leland and Eastside is there. The 1st street in Waller is gone. And they have them all. You still have one, you have about 20 of them or more, there's a ton of them, you're right. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Amazing. But this old Austin is really cool. Two towers have been destroyed in traffic accidents. Two have been blown down by cyclones and six victims of rust. Oxidation strikes again. So what's next on the ladder when you can't afford mac and cheese?

25:52 It's only a dollar. What? No, no, but what is cheaper than mac and cheese? I guess picking up cigarette butts from the street and eating them. No idea. Cat food. What's cheaper than mac and cheese is the question of the show. Cat food. Cat food is pretty pricey. No, you can get cat food for 69 cents a can, but let's say you can't even afford cat food. Then we have this. During tough economic times, many families are forced to give up their pets because they can't afford to feed them. But a new program could help. Shut up! Don't talk through the clip. They can't afford to feed them, but a new program could help. It's called Pet Food Stamps. The donation-based program can help financially strapped families afford to buy pet food and supplies. The organization is open to anyone in the U.S. You just have to apply to see if you qualify. That's right. I got a pet.

26:45 I got a whole bunch of cats and dogs at home. Can I have some pet food stamps, please? Where did you get that clip? You're killing me with these. That's from the news, man. That's CNN. Obviously, people are rejoicing. Like, wow. Hey, give me that jacket. Let me roll on the cat hairs over here. Yeah, we got a whole bunch of cats we're taking care of. I think I need some cat food stamps. free cat food. And then use the stamps to buy the cat food and then you eat it. Exactly. You're right, that is pretty cheap. Maybe, maybe. What if, I guarantee you, you want a meal for depression, cat food mac and cheese all in one. Like we'll call it tuna a la king. It's a gourmet version of the mac and cheese. Tuna a la king.

27:40 I'm gonna make this I'm gonna make this I'm gonna serve it to my guests here I'm gonna see if I can get away with it I am going to make the cat food mac and cheese and site go for a fact that i could pull that off i'm not sure if you could have your better cook than i am but i'd like to try it i really like to try and people do i was really nice wanted to retest it properly i mean instead of trying to you know use some you know page cheddar from england and they only have a fan fancy possibly that we can we gotta do with the one dollar box yeah you have to do with the one dollar box and that she this cat food you can buy

28:19 You probably have to buy that I think you have to test this part. You'll have it. This is my advice to you You get you go to the look for the 69 cent cat food, and then you buy every type of it Yeah, you got a test you got it work I'm all up and do a smell test and the one that doesn't stink to high heaven is the one you use in this dish Yeah, yeah, you know what my hair will be all shiny so There must be some kind of spice that we can use to cover up better than ever what? There must be some herb or herb or spice that we can use that a little Universal herb for these sorts of things that particular thing herb is marjoram Marjoram yeah, I think marjoram marjoram has become my choice. What is marjoram? Yeah, marjoram. How do you spell that? Marj o r a m

29:15 And marjoram sits somewhere in between the qualities of oregano, without the possibility... Oregano occasionally, depending on which oregano you have, because they come from different parts of the world, but oregano will occasionally, if you use just a pinch too much, turn something bitter. It'll turn like a spaghetti sauce, bitter. It never... This works fine on pizza, but with a spaghetti sauce, you have to be real careful, because it goes bitter, and then you have to fight it. You've got to put honey and butter and all that. Yeah, and you screwed. You screwed. You can use this stuff by the handful, by the bushel. You can take a jar of it and dump it in. And I buy it by two pound batches. I use it as my salad herb. Marjoram. Indigenous to Cyprus and southern Turkey. Known to the Greeks and Romans as a symbol of happiness. That's right. Happy mac and cheese. But marjoram is a great, great all-purpose. And when you can get it fresh, even better.

30:10 Okay, so you think that's what I should be putting in the in the cat food. I'm gonna try I am a little basil to a basil leaf Here's what you do here. We do you as you're serving it as you're plopping out from a big vat This you have to make it look good, but it's a big vat for that. Tell me something's gotta be a fan for copper Yeah, but you're lopping out this cat food and mac and cheese and you say oh careful there might be a bay leaf still in there You know what I mean? That kind of gives it's different than a basil leaf but a bay leaf you should get a basil leaf and put it on top as a decoration but you should probably put a bay leaf in there and then oh here it is. It gives that kind of that whole magic act. Oh I'm sorry I didn't mean for you to get the bay leaf you know it's that little thing that I add to my tuna a la king.

31:03 I actually pull that off. It might be worth experimenting with though. It might actually be very tasty. You can make anything taste good. During the French Revolution, the French developed a whole slew of recipes on how to prepare properly and eat rat. Because parrots eat rats, so there's more than enough protein to keep people alive. Well, rats are great. I agree. Rats are good. And it turns out you cook them a little bit like a rabbit. And it's just a dressing of them. You've got to skin them and do other things. It's just the idea. We're just all trained. That's disgusting. Well, it's not disgusting. Rat head soup. It's not disgusting. It's just a little...

31:47 Now, let's take a quick trip around the elites of the world and let's laugh at them. First we go down under to Australia where we're very happy that this took place and I think it's a very good thing we all can learn something from the Australian producers. Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard has been forced to dodge a flying sandwich for the second time this month. She was greeting children at Lyonham High School in Canberra when a student flung the salami snack. Oh, I think Kat must have thought I was hungry. I think Kat must have thought I was hungry. Flung the salami snack, I tell you. Very good, very good. So we're very, very happy with that. I think that's a good idea. You know, in Eastern cultures, we typically throw a shoe. Yeah, but shoes cost money.

32:35 Yeah, here it's just a salami sandwich. And it's funny because the video you see that it's a shitty throw by the way. It's like it's not the knife throwing, you know, the crocodile Dundee that did this but I think it's funny. Don't you think that should be our thing now in America? Throw salami sandwiches? Bologna, bologna sandwiches. Oh, bologna would be better, yeah. Just throw a bologna sandwich at your politician if he's full of crap. Legacy Media. Somebody did a documentary that essentially just slammed the crap out of him. Do you have a clip for this? No, I have no clip. I'm just going to explain it. It's funny. I like it. Good story. And one of the reasons that I'm telling this story because this is another example of why our model for survival is better than this other version because the PBS was torn

33:47 about running the documentary on especially like he's on the board of w n e t and he's a big supporter he's given hundreds of millions of dollars to public radio and public TV. I don't know if it's hundreds of millions, but it's a lot. A hit piece on him, on one of his companies that he's like on the board of. Well hold on, hold on. I understood that it was partially a hit piece on the building that he lives in and it turns out that there's a whole bunch of other Democrat elites who live in the same building because of course... There is that, but the true rich people are Democrats. Well, that proves that, that's for sure. But yeah, it was 7040 Park Avenue, I believe. But anyway, there was a bunch of very nasty stuff about him being a douchebag, essentially. And so he just pulls the plug. He said, fuck it, I quit this. I quit WNAT. I'm not giving you any more money, you know, if you're going to pull this crap.

34:38 So everybody goes on and on about, oh this just proves that you know they've got great moral standards at these networks and this is what the New Yorker essentially concluded because they had a choice between one of their supporters, big-time sponsor, and then the hit piece. So they chose the hit piece and got rid of him. He left. Yeah. I saw it completely differently. they have never done anything like this to their other big supporters Bank of America, Chevron, Daniels Midland, Monsanto, BNSF, Burlington Northern, any of these guys which have a liberal bias so they got the one guy who has a right-wing bias they do a hit on him, get him out of there, and then they take all this to feel so good about themselves even though for all practical purposes most of public television is

35:29 anti, I mean we know this, it's anti-right, it's very pro, it's very liberal, very corny, the whole thing. It's corny. So this is not just stepping up. It's corny. It's corny! Come on, it's corny. Hey, the dude. Oh yeah, what was it? Oh yeah, no, what it was, was like, you know what's been bothering me is this conspiracy, it's a conspiracy, conspiracy theorists, conspiracy, you know that whole thing? Yeah. yeah i live with it every day so i uh... i saying well you know it's not as if we're not talking about conspiracy stories talking about people are dead lying to us and trying to get around the line for our which is going on and so i went out of my way since i do have a new york times subscription to dig up the old original of writings on the uh... gulf of tomkin don't worry that much is another one of those things that during this period

36:20 You people was like, ooooh, you're just a conspiracy person. Now when was this? When was the Gulf of Tonkin? What year was that? It was 1964. I have all the printouts here. Landscape. Because it's the New York Times. So 64, but of course since then obviously you know we've become so transparent and it's just you know the government doesn't lie to you anymore. Yeah, why would it get worse? No, that's impossible. So anyway, so here's an example of now you'd have been, oh you're a conspiracy theorist because you think that there was no attack. Now the funny thing was there was this, there was a, there was two incidents that took place one day after another.

37:00 the second day and this by the way is what created the Vietnam War for everybody. It was very important, it was a false flag. Yeah well no it wasn't even a false flag, no it wasn't a false flag. It was bull crap. There was no anything. It was just made up on a whole clock. Yeah okay. Here's what happened, there were two days. The first day was a Apparently, we had a ship way off shore and there was a couple of PT boats from the North Vietnamese coming out there to take a look, see what was going on. We took a couple shots at them. Much later determined that the first story was, oh, they shot at us and so we had to fire back. The real story that came out later was, no, we shot at them to get them away. So nothing happened. Somebody must have come up with a bright idea.

37:46 that the next day we were under attack yes I yeah it's Vietnamese out here in the middle of the Gulf of Tonkin yes that day nothing happened at all in fact Lyndon Johnson was well recorded as saying he was golfing wasn't he was he just hanging out by the poolside? He said I think they must have been shooting at whales or something But anyway, so the idea was it was just a lie. There was nothing and this lie persisted because here's an article from 1967. This is three years later. Can I just say one thing? So I'm not quite sure what you were doing with the printouts, but if you're walking around and saying to people, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Here, look at this printout from 1964. This isn't... No, I wanted this for the show. I'd like to recommend you not do that because that doesn't really work.

38:35 It's for the show. Okay. Nobody thinks I'm a conspiracy nut anyway. Uh-huh. Senator J.W. Fulbright in a statement confirmed it, this is like three years later during another one of those hearings you know that they're having, okay did this ever really happen, confirmed today that the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the staff meeting was inquiring into the 64 Gulf of Tonkin incidents to clear up uncertainties about reported encounters between the United States destroyers and North Vietnamese torpedo boats. Right. Just three years later, they're doing a little look into it. The Defense Department issued a statement emphasizing that the evidence that two American destroyers were attacked by North Vietnamese torpedo boats was conclusive.

39:23 Yeah. Any suggestion that the August 1964 attacks on the US destroyers in the Tonkin Gulf did not occur is contrary to the known facts the Pentagon statement said. Yeah. So, yeah, so now if you're back there and by the way there was a lot of, there were sailors on the ships and they told their mates and their girlfriends and other, you know, nothing happened, I don't know what this is all about. Oh, nothing happened and you go out and say nothing happened, this is bull crap. You would be dubbed a conspiracy nut or something like that. This is just a way to marginalize the realities that are behind most of these stories. And this went on for, this was three years later they're still denying it. Well it's interesting you bring this up because I... Play the great lead in for anything. We can use this as an area, a lead in for anything. If you're one of over 50 million adults who suffer from a sore mouth...

40:18 Then you're in the right place. The best podcast in the universe. Sore mouth. Okay, thank you. That was well worth it. Okay. She's very pretty, this girl. Of course she is. Send more karma. Oh, I have an update on that. On the Oryx? Yes. Karma. Okay, I'm all ears. I talked to my guy yesterday. The meat man, he shall go unnamed at the farmers market here in Austin and I said hey man Can you get something for me? Yeah. Yeah. What do you need? We need oryx? He said I'd love to get some oryx a thousand dollars for a whole oryx. He says

41:00 That's not bad. No, but I don't have a freezer for a whole Oryx. Get a freezer. You can buy these little freezers. You have to have a freezer if you're living in Texas. There's also something else. Because you're going to be buying meat off the hoof. There's also something else. If you need a freezer. There's another problem. I don't have a thousand dollars to spend on Oryx. You're going to split it with him. It's only 500. So he says that you can't, it's very hard to buy it because he says all these damn greenies, he says the people on the hunting farms, they don't even sell it anymore. You have to find a buddy and get it because they give it to their employees, they eat it themselves because when they sell it there's just too much hassle. So they don't even want to sell it, so you have to get it through a back door. But he says a grand?

41:42 and I'm good to go. But maybe I can split my half with someone else locally. Believe me, if you can find a way to get half, because it's a big animal. It's not like we're talking about a goat. He said it's a really big animal. Yeah, it's a big animal, so it's a lot of meat. And it's going to be delicious. But you should start shopping for a good freezer. We actually have two up in Port Angeles and I've got one here I should get a bigger one. Yeah but you bought all that before the depression. Yeah, funny. So anyway, so I was looking into cooking Oryx. I sent you a little link to some Oryx, how you cook it. You cook it like a goat. Oh, I didn't get that link.

42:24 It was a clip, it wasn't a link, it was a... I gave a cut and paste, you don't read my email, never mind. No, I did not get an email from you about Oryx. Yes. No. Yeah. No. I can find it now if you want me to. Yeah, it's in your draft box. Anyway, I'll... you have to apologize on the next show when I send it to you, say, look... So anyway, let me finish. So I've started thinking about these animals and what they're like in terms of cooking, because you kind of have to figure out how to cook them. You can't just, you know, do anything. It seems as if these are hoofed animals that like to climb around and these are more like... These are somewhere between a venison like a gazelle and a goat. Because everyone describes the meat as it's like cooking goat and people have to know that goat doesn't taste like what you think it tastes like.

43:14 Goat is a great great dish that we may have not been eating much in the United States because it's associated with poor Muslims and it's kind of a bigoted way of looking at it. But goat is like the mildest best tasting lamb you've ever had. Oh I'm sorry, here's your note, I apologize now. Oryx, this is from, here it is, I dined on Oryx, Gemsbok. In Southern Africa, several folks proclaim the best among the best eating. Oh, hmm. Okay. That's the different. That's the other oryx. That's the one that's in New Mexico. Right. This isn't the scimitar oryx because those are extinct. Right. If you are ever so lucky, be decadent with the tenderloin saute, one inch medallions lightly in butter and whip up a brown sauce with mustard mushrooms. Oh my God. All right. Well, I'm going to try it.

44:08 It's expensive. Anyway, just one is it per pound though. Maybe it's maybe it's not as expensive as you think. It's a lot of pounds. I am living over 100 pounds of meat, which is five bucks a pound. And you get a bunch of Oryx hamburgers and catch you imagine having some buddies over and flying up some Oryx burgers. But I'll ask him if I can do it on layaway. Oryx burgers. Burgers. Come on. Would you like some ketchup on your Oryx burger? I mean, how can you resist? Alright, let's move on. Hey, you know, do you realize how close I came to completely nailing the Super Bowl outcome? Yeah, you came pretty close. It would have been 69.

44:59 and it would have been the San Francisco who won. Yeah. I mean, within the last couple of seconds. So... That game, Power Goes Out, there apparently was a bet on Power going out. How long did... was there a bet on Power going out? That's what somebody says. I haven't proven it. Really? Really. Somebody says there was a Vegas bet on the Power going out. Well, it was out for a total of... 33 minutes. 33 minutes, yeah. And here's what I caught the other night Chris Christie, the Gouverneur of New Jersey saying. What you would do in that situation, being a parrot for God's sake. I mean, how do you pitch? And the NFL guy, Roger Goodell, he was with you last night? Yeah, I was in his box. What happened when the lights went out? He didn't seem to care one bit, actually.

45:48 He was eating some popcorn, checking his Blackberry. So I think he was in on the bet. He was checking his Blackberry. Yeah, he was in on the bet. You think he would care? No, no, no, no. He doesn't care at all. Now, of course, whenever we say, oh, this is all rigged and it's fixed and people begin to laugh, but I'm sure you have heard about the 680 matches in European football, soccer, which Europol is now investigating because it's all rigged, particularly the Champions League. Over 600 matches have been shown to be rigged. Rigged, rigged.

46:25 The people always laugh with the fixes in all the stuff. I thought the fix was in for the Niners in this game and I think they fell so far behind. I just want to see if the fix can be in and you can still go the wrong way. Somebody usually gets killed shortly thereafter. Well, here's what I thought initially. Now, I didn't know about the betting on the power. That's possible. I thought, now these are the coaches, they're brothers, correct? Yeah, so we had a cane and able thing I believe that the Ravens were supposed to throw the game because all professional sports are rigged and then the brother went F you bro. I'm gonna kick your ass And that's why remember that I mean if you saw they were fighting on the field in like the first five minutes They're all fighting and pushing because the San Francisco was like hey bitches

47:19 That we're supposed to be winning here, what are you doing? This is not what we agreed upon. And then they killed the power. The power and then the diners started to catch up and then they fell apart. They couldn't catch up, they were way too far behind, it was just impossible. But do you see how they did like 17 points in 15 minutes. Yeah, I literally think that they were that there was so much money riding on this that was fixed San Francisco supposed to win then the brother goes screw you bro. I'm not playing that game I'm good. I'm out to win he ride. What did Baltimore have to lose? They're like, yeah, let's do it You know, we don't give a crap then they went in did went they went totally for the kill went for the win and then you know It's like oh, we're panicking throw the power. Oh

48:03 And that's when San Francisco got it back together again. And I think because the points were much closer, that even if people lost, at least that point spread wasn't so enormous, so the power outage helped the guys who were in on the game. Does that make any sense? Well, no. Because the point spread was four points, five points for Baltimore. So the Baltimore team could have lost and still won the bet. But to me that's what it felt like. essentially from the seller of the league and made them five times champion more or less. There was always something fishy about every game. There'd be like one of the top linemen on the other team would mysteriously disappear before the Super Bowl.

49:04 Seriously, there's all these guys who think so. I figure the Niners are always going to win because of this kind of stuff going on. I think that this, I think your theory is basically correct and I think somebody's going to end up dead in the next three months. I think that's very possible. And it's probably going to be that dude who killed two people. What's his name? but do you think that this is the dude who the player the dude who killed two people and he got off no no easy to kill him he's the expendable he's on the baltimore team we gotta kill somebody now they have to kill somebody who who made the deal so i was a problem in the niners or in his or maybe the baltimore organization somebody's gonna get killed though i'm telling you kill that guy as a warning

49:51 Well, we'll see. All I know is that if we watch the Red Book, it's in the Red Book, somebody in the league somewhere along the lines of the NFL is going to be mysteriously murdered. Yeah! I want to take just a moment here to play this little clip. It was sent to us by one of our producers. I think you received it as well. This is a great clip from the 50s. Maybe it's got to be late 50s. I guess of Rod Serling. Did you see the clip that was sent to us by our? Yeah, it was part of a one of his old interviews. It's quite interesting. This is the one is this the one about how he did? Yeah, this is a good so actually this is before before he

50:38 before the twilight because he was a producer actor writer before the twilight zone which is he's most famous for i guess what what other things that uh... the broad sterling do it must have been for a heavyweight he wanted crapload of awards for his dramas and i mean did the guy was awesome and it's cool because It's funny, Mickey was taking some stuff off the wall while I'm recording this clip and she couldn't see it but she said, wow, the guy really talks old-fashioned. I said, yeah, this is an interview from 1950s. She said, oh, wow. It is kind of that 1950s vibe. And I think he's talking to, who's the big CBS guy? Morrow? I don't know who he's talking to. If it was in color, it wasn't Morrow.

51:23 No, it was black and white. And he's smoking on camera too, which is kind of cool. Yeah, well he died of smoking. Yeah, but it's still cool that he's just smoking on camera. I know, they used to all do that. He used to smoke on his intro on the toilet when he came out smoking. Awesome, awesome, awesome. I mean, can't you put it down for one minute, Rod? So this is from the, the more things change, the more they stay the same. 1950s, and one of the reasons why We have our value for value model here on no agenda Pre-censorship is a practice. I think of most television writers. I can't speak for all of them This is the actually is Mike Wallace prior knowledge of the writer of those areas which are difficult to try to get through And so a writer will shy away from writing those things which he knows he's going to have trouble with on the sponsorial or an agency Exactly we practice it all the time. We just do not write those themes which you are going which we know are going to get into trouble and

52:18 Who's the culprit is it the network the sponsor? It sure is not the FCC No, it's certainly not the FCC ideally speaking of course. It's a combination of culprits in this case Mike It's partly network. It's principally agency and sponsor in many ways. I think it's the audience themselves How do you mean well? I'll give you an example about a year ago roughly 11 or 12 months ago on the Lassie show. This is a story usually told by Sheldon Leonard who was then associated with the show. Lassie was having puppies. And I have two little girls, then age five and three, who are greatly enamored of this beautiful collie. And they watched the show with great interest, and Lassie gave birth to puppies. And Mikey, it was probably one of the most tasteful and delightful and warm things depicting what is this wondrous thing that is birth.

53:13 And after the show, I think there were many congratulations all around because it was a lovely show. The sort of thing I'd love my kids to watch to show them what is the birth process and how marvelous it is. They got many, many cards and letters. Sample card from the deep south this was. If I wanted my kids to watch sex shows, I wouldn't have had a turn on that. I could take them to burlesque shows. And as a result of the influx of mail, many of the cards incidentally, as Sheldon tells it, were postmarked at identical moments, all in the same handwriting, but each was counted as a singular piece of mail. And as a result, the directive went down that there would be no shows having anything to do with puppies, that is in the actual birth process. Well, obviously it is this wild lunatic fringe of letter writers that greatly affect what the sponsor has in mind.

54:01 You can understand the position of the sponsor, can't you? In many ways I suppose I can. He's there to push a product. He has a considerable stake, does he, in what goes on the air? Most assuredly. And in those cases where there is a problem of public taste, in which there is a concern for eliciting negative response from a large mass of people, I can understand why the guys are frightened. I don't understand, Mike, for example, evidences and instances of intrusion by sponsors. For example, on Playhouse 90 not a year ago, a lovely show called Judgment of Nuremberg, I think probably one of the most competently done and artistically done pieces that 90's done all year, in it, as you recall, mention was made of gas chambers. And the line was deleted, cut off the soundtrack.

54:52 And it mattered little to these guys if the gas involved in concentration camps was cyanide, which bore no resemblance, physical or otherwise, to the gas used in stoves. They cut the line. Because the sponsor was... He did not want that awful association made between what was the horror and the misery of Nazi Germany with the nice chrome, wonderfully antiseptically clean, beautiful kitchen appliances that they were selling. Now this is an example of sponsor interference which is so beyond logic and which is so beyond taste This I rebel against you've got a new series coming up called the Twilight Zone So of course the most important part of that piece is really at the beginning where he talks about the pre censorship where? These topics just just not even broach that you just don't even come up Just not even just because it'll never work you can never you can't say that you can't air that you can't do this you can't do that and And if you do then well look that will have letter writers and

55:48 Which of course is all bullcrap, but people go after the sponsors. No, and I've talked about this a lot as a writer. And because people always like, you know, the argument is, well, you know, Microsoft is telling you guys what to write. And by the way, Microsoft's not the worst actor in this kind of thing. And then you say it was. And it's really ironic that people would say, well, we cite Microsoft, especially like when you write for PC Magazine, because Microsoft was one of the lousiest advertisers. They never they never advertise. They don't have any any any push at all. But anyway, what they do have is a lot of public relations guys that used to, they don't do this much anymore, I think this is really hurting them, but they used to be hound the editor. How can you run that guy's stuff? So there's a point where you can come out and honestly say, for example as a writer, you can honestly say, I have never been told ever what to write.

56:46 and of the but then again you have some stuff that's rejected occasionally and then you can kind of figure out what not to write but you can always say that and you say with honestly because most of the time you're just self-censoring you just say I'm like what's the point of my wasting my time turning this in when it's gonna get kicked back I'm at the right something else right which is which by the way when the whole download fiasco happened with Apple's iOS 6 Um... You even said that to me. Because I said look here's the evidence. Here's what's going on. Here's how the logs work. Here's what's here's what they've changed their TCP stack They got all kinds of shit going wrong and the inside with their iPhone and it's costing us money It's costing all kinds of people headaches and money and problems, and I think you literally said you know What's the point of trying to write a column? They're just gonna knock it away, and they'll and an Apple won't answer and they'll never happen It's just it's not gonna happen right well This is another secondary effect which I should mention to people you want the inside scoop

57:48 Which is you will occasionally have something like that piece, which I wasn't gonna write like you said, I just wasn't gonna write. And the reason is because it would, this kind of thing, and you want to put it in a high profile spot. But it goes like this. This is an interesting thing you've done. Have you, did you get response from Apple? Yeah. And you call out, but you're not going to get any response. So you put, you could say, yeah, they won't call me back. Well, give it a try somebody else. You got sure you can get somebody to say something. They won't say anything. In fact, you had contact over there. They wouldn't even talk to you and you weren't writing anything. Yeah. And so then you got to get some. Well, I was calling them assholes. That might have. And then you got to document it better. Because well, so you know, can you prove this? You know, well, you, yeah, you got some.

58:28 some laws was this is happening in West by you start getting grilled about the details because it's more than just a simple opinion you're accusing you do you write when you do accusatory writing you have to have some time to do it and they don't pay anybody anymore and none of the newspapers do and none of the magazines for sure. They don't pay anybody enough to spend days and days and days researching something. It is a loser of an idea and then it doesn't have any effect because Apple fixes the thing eventually anyway. you know so what did you accomplish? Did you make him go faster? Did you make, did you embarrass the company? Was that the idea just to try to humiliate them? I mean it's a waste of time and that's the way that all the media works. The only reason that this show is so good is because we have no constraints. I mean we can bicker about hipsterism for 10 minutes and that's too bad. And the good news is you can fast forward and you can rewind the tape.

59:25 Well that was interesting. I didn't, you know, this is actually to be honest about the first time I've heard this clip show. I edited part of it to get it on here but I didn't listen to the whole thing. It's really pretty good. We should also mention that Ramsey Cain who was one of our producers who put this together, he maintains noagendaCD.com So, which also has a YouTube channel and it's just, you know, you can download entire CDs with the artwork to put on the CDs, but also just individual clips. And we really appreciate what he's done because he not only gave us a show off, which was nice, but also I think really gave us an outstanding product that is worth passing around.

1:00:06 Yeah, he dug back into the archives too to get some of this stuff. I also want to remind people that are producers of the show that you will have your producer credit on the show itself and you will be thanking everybody on the first of August when we do a show live, anyone who contributes to the show. We want to remind people that we still need the donations and contributions and producer ships and all the rest of it so uh... if you go to know agenda nation dot com no jenna showed up comical in the donate but would also of course dvorak dot org slash n a uh... to help us out for the next show which will be coming up in uh... in on sunday which is a uh... the interview show that we do right or israel which is original content uh... which is not been although uh... my interview was uh... one point publish on the big book show but i don't think a lot of people saw that it's the audio version uh... so we'll get to that we'll talk about that on sunday of right now let's just get back to the uh... to ramsey's clip show get the part two

1:01:05 big news breaking at just a moment this morning on the same as uh... ladies and gentlemen yes john c divorce what are you learning times are tougher debbie prostitute in uh... western england unknown as a private uh... flat with other mature ladies she does two or three jobs a day a year ago she was doing a dinner nine one hookers in england uh... have to lower their prices are not the businesses down what Yeah, this is in the Economist. Well, I mean... Hooker's on sale. Is that the title of the article? Oh, but it might be a title for the show. Yeah, write it down. We have long since... It says sex, the title is Sex Doesn't Sell. Well, now this is very interesting because you have long, for many years, as long as I've known, you always use the Dvorak Hooker Indicator, which says, it's kind of like a more, it's actually, it's Dvorak's law,

1:01:59 As we know, we have Moore's law, we have Dvorak's law. Is the worse the economy, not only do the hookers get better looking, but they get cheaper, but not that they have less gigs. well it would seem to me that the lord the price enough they would have the same number of gigs which is a client to make a classic i think it's working from my way okay so you're you're saying is there over a lot of economists on by supply and demand anymore so i think that this is a you this is where it came from which i heard some right okay because they are the true free market yeah well to a point well they're not doing exactly so anyways is a interest this is an e in indicator you know supposedly everything is

1:02:44 You heard it in the past. This reflects the sluggish economy. Overall consumer spending at the end of 2012 was almost 4% lower than its 27 peak. And Vivian, an independent escort in the South. Who got to write this? Who even? An independent escort in the South. Who probably had to put out to get her name in here. Oh. Okay. To supplement her income as a photographer. Says paying for sex is a luxury food is more important. The mortgage is more important petrol is more important Especially at these prices. Well, so so wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. He's offering discounts out of desperation Well, so down to 30 bucks this make Wow, this makes a lot of sense because in times of war I think that's when indeed, you know, the the prostitution industry really kind of falls apart because the soldiers don't pay for they just take it and

1:03:38 you know the occupying forces right so I think that this is a new line has been crossed in the UK that's very sad 30 bucks that's in your perspective that's like two pounds do you remember Kevin the blade Kevin the blade yeah Kevin the blade he was the Canadian kid who listened to No Agenda and I was looking for someone to help me edit the big app show when I was still doing that. Remember him? No, that's some time back. Yeah, back in the LA days. So Kevin the Blade, and he basically gave up and went back to Canada with his girlfriend and he's been toodling around but he has come up with a project. And I've always, he was an intern essentially. I paid him whatever I could but he really worked basically for no money.

1:04:32 So I wanted to thank him by giving him a plug for his new project which I think is going to be a massive hit and he's doing a I don't know if it's a Kickstarter or an Indiegogo or something. Anyway, it's called Come Giggle With Me. ComeGiggleWithMe.com and it's a reality cooking show with people who are stoned on marijuana. That's funny. You know, I've always wanted to do a talk show. Really similar to this it was but it was different my idea is this and I still think it's valid The name of the talk show is Legally Drunk. Okay, yeah, that sounds about right. And you have to have a breathalyzer. Right, to make sure you're legally drunk. And you take the breathalyzer and then the announcer comes over and a big thing slams on the screen, Legally Drunk! Okay, you're good to go! And then what? Then you get on the talk show? Then you're on the talk show, I'd be the host, I would be sober. Yeah, uh-huh. And you just get people yakking drunk, because they'll say all kinds of crazy things.

1:05:37 It would be a great show. Somebody should produce this show. I like it. Well, so in this case, five stoners are pitted against each other to see who can cook the best munchies and throw the best party. Oh, well, this is similar. Yeah. Legally drunk is good. How about legally baked? I think it's funny when people are stoned, because when people are drunk, they can also get aggressive. Well, that's fine too. That's good television. It's great television. I would produce this with you. Yeah. And here's your host of Legally Baked. Who would be your first guest? I think first you gotta find people that like to drink. I think that's the key. I can do legally, I'll do it. I'll get baked for your show to be a guest. Well, baked to me implies marijuana or something like that. Yeah, yeah, no, I don't want to do legally drunk. I don't like drunk people. No, no, I'm not gonna do a baked show. This is too, it's too slow moving. It wouldn't have, nobody would ever be aggressive and they wouldn't start yelling or start falling off the chair drunk. I'm honest, it'd be an opportunity. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. What am I thinking?

1:06:38 Well, on top of that, you might as well play I Feel Terrible. I feel terrible. I just cannot sit here and concentrate on my lines because I'm so nauseous. Who's that? Somebody in the world's next model or whatever the hell. God, you watch that? I watch that clip. Oh my goodness. You're horrible. Turn off your television. There was a Cassius Clay anecdote. Oh, no, the armed militia. This was interesting to me because it brought... The Cassius Clay thing is my notes. Paul was talking about how Americans by right are supposed to be armed to the teeth for whatever reason. And it reminded me of an anecdote that was interesting.

1:07:36 when because when people bring up gun control and things like that and I'm not a gun control advocate or non advocate I have to say I do like shooting guns and I'd like I have a lot of friends that have collections and we'll go out to a range and shoot. Yeah, it turns you on doesn't it John? No it doesn't actually, it doesn't turn me on but it's a lot of fun. Okay. Anyway so I'm not like an arsonist. Anyway so I visited the mansion or the former mansion of the antebellum or the Civil War, I guess it was a state officer Cassius Clay who was Henry Clay's, I think his brother.

1:08:18 And Cassius Clay had this place outside of, I think it's outside of Lexington, Kentucky. People are gonna start writing, do you know anything? But I think it's outside of Lexington. So I went in there and Cassius Clay is this very famous senator and he, uh... one time ethic canon apparently and he was an abolitionist which was not popular in the area and so they tried to like fuck with him uh... and the locals and so then the including the sheriff and and and the local police and he had a cannon in front of his house that he'd fill with uh... shrapnel and when they came to use you know what you did get him arrest or harass them or whatever they're gonna do he'd shoot it adam

1:09:03 and which was his uh... second amendment right to be exercised exactly and you know eventually they stopped coming over and uh... he needed to do that otherwise you know that things would it would we're gonna happen to him no thanks to the local authorities And I've always thought that was like, you know, people moan and groan about it. It's all weapons, all the rest. This guy has like a cannon that he's shooting. And so, so I'm always thinking back on that, like what would have happened if he didn't have the cannon? So I think there's lots of modern day analogies to that story. None that I can think of, but yeah, there probably are. Now, by the way, the funny story about the, about the Cassius Clay,

1:09:49 House, you know in Cassius Clay of course is who Muhammad Ali yeah named himself after right? No, no, he named himself Muhammad Ali. He was born Cassius born Cassius Clay. Okay, because most of the Lot of well, you know as a lot of famous blacks were named after famous whites or I mean I'm sorry a lot of black slaves were named after famous whites and became a tradition in the black community to name people after famous people. And so Cassius Clay was named after this guy. Now the kicker, and anybody who happens to be in the area of Lexington should go check out this, this is actually a very interesting place because for one thing there's a bunch of little busts that show, for example, his sister's clothes. Some of these people during that era in the 1850s were

1:10:42 If there were four seven it was a miracle, especially the women they weren't getting a lot of vitamin B. Mm-hmm And his is his wife was obviously a she was a and that's wife. I'm sorry. I think was a sister This has been years ago when I was over there His sister was and I should obviously read something before I do these interviews or these just show with you Why ruin the spontaneity, huh? Yeah, right. I'm waiting for the ETA on this point you're about to make. I'm getting there. So anyway, it's a long road. Anyway, so his sister was a woman activist. You start to see the pictures of her and all her friends, you could tell she was kind of

1:11:27 she was a lesbian. It was kind of amusing. But anyway, the story I'm trying to get to, but she was like four foot two or something. They had a thing of where the close she was. She couldn't have been bigger than a 12 year old. I bet she had a huge ass cannon. She might have. Anyway, so I'm looking around this house and there is a newspaper article about a famous African who came to visit Kentucky and he visited the house and he met with Cassius Clay. and his name was Muhammad Ali. Wow. Yeah, that's what I thought. And so I said, wow, that's cool. And now I'm thinking that Cassius Clay himself, the boxer, may, you know, because he'd heard the story and he named himself Muhammad Ali. He may have actually visited this museum and saw that name. That's a cool name. Because there's a weird connection there that's never been explained to me. That's the story. Oh, John, I am so happy you told me that story.

1:12:28 Well, we might as well get into it right now. 33, of course, was rampant, rampant all over this meteorite strike over Russia. 33,000 miles per hour, $33 million is what it's going to cost. Everything was 33. Yeah, I know. And why? What is it? What is it? Oh, because... It's been going on with it. People who just started listening to our show should know that we discovered this 33 kind of meme that we have no idea what its purpose is, but it always tends to indicate some sort of a sham or a scam or a signal, a weak wink, a wink wink kind of thing of some sort, but we don't know who's implementing it, how it got implemented,

1:13:19 But it shows up far too often. In fact, there used to be a segment on this show which you stopped doing because it was just ridiculous. Here we go. Yeah, here it is. And it would be endless. And it'd always be sketchy stories. Okay, so do you want to... I have a pretty solid theory on why 33 showed up around this Russian meteorite. Because this is clearly a 33 type story. Obviously. First of all, as a...

1:13:56 As a renowned Nobel Prize winning astronomer, I would love to hear your general take on what you saw on these just fascinating video, I mean so professionally shot and so, you know, just great. Well I saw like a crashing plane in one video and then just a streak and then all the good videos of course were computer generated. Yes, yes. And then there was a few people floating around with cuts on their faces. uh... i don't know how i mean they showed a big hole yet in the lake yet so this is the latest was kinda weird So this thing hits the lake at 33,000 miles an hour, Lake 33 I guess, and it puts this perfectly round hole in the lake. But if it was coming in with that kind of impact, I think it would have drained the lake. It would have thrown the lake completely into the air and it would have just been a huge mess. There wouldn't be a nice hole with ice around it. The ice sheet would have been blown to smithereens.

1:14:58 If this thing had hit that water at that speed, it would have evaporated half the lake and blew the rest of the lake into the woods. I mean, this is bull crap. Yeah, and did you notice how when there's a cruise ship with 4,000 people pooping in bags, CNN sends everyone there and they're on the scene and they're on the air for hours covering it live as this thing goes... 24-7 poop, poopgate. Poopgate. This freaking meteorite explodes with the... Oh, and by the way, 33 times the Hiroshima bomb. I've heard that one a couple of times. 33 times, please.

1:15:34 And it's like they send one guy who happens to be in Moscow, they send him up there and then there's a bunch of guys like, go back, you know, you're filmed here. You know, it's like a bunch of ruskies. And everyone's just accepting this, like this is normal. Whereas the last time this happened, do you know the last event of this magnitude of an exploding meteorite? I'm surprised. The one that knocked down the forest? Yeah, that was an asteroid I think. Well, no, I've learned that an asteroid becomes a meteorite when it enters the atmosphere. But that was the Tunguska event. Yeah, that's the big one that knocked down like something like a thousand square miles of trees. Yes, and that was in 1908 in Siberia and it knocked down... let me see how many... because you still see the pictures of the trees.

1:16:26 And that was a larger event than this was. But I just have a couple questions before I get into my theory here. So when and when, the sound of speed is 762 miles per hour, like 1200 kilometers. You're talking about the speed of sound. The speed of sound, yeah. So the sonic boom, you know, a sonic boom takes place over the sound barrier. So of course 33,000 miles an hour, you know, does not mean that you get a bigger boom. I mean, I don't understand, how come when

1:17:02 You know, when a jet breaks a sound barrier, you know, we don't have walls crumbling and it's... I mean, is it the speed? Is it the size of the object? It's the distance, I think, from where you're hearing. We don't hear... It's illegal to make a sonic boom in the United States. Mm-hmm. Well, I should be arrested. I should be arrested. What? I should be arrested. I made a sonic boom just this morning. And you talking to me about the MasterBase joke? And now the kicker. And I was a little dismayed because I actually watched this thing Thursday evening. I was like, oh my god, no one has seen this. No one's looking at this. And then I was like, you know, and like last night I saw one or two postings on the news network about it. And this morning you sent me the same clip. I was like, I'm sure to nail clip of the day.

1:17:57 And here it is, the best question ever asked of Janet Napolitano with a stunning answer. Take it for granted. I mean, we, you know, we, I'm sure, I mean, I don't know, if you practice two-layer authentication with your email and do you have, you know, multiple passwords for your accounts? I mean, it ultimately comes down to some level of personal responsibility and we don't always integrate it into our lives and we just sort of treat it as an afterthought until something bad happens. Yeah, that's why, you know, decades ago nobody put a seatbelt on when they got in the car. In fact, cars didn't even come with seatbelts. we need that same kind of cultural awareness and change more quickly where cyber safety is concerned. Do you integrate it into your own life? I mean, do you have Amazon and iTunes accounts separated into different passwords for everything? What does your personal cyber security look like? Well, okay, don't laugh, but I just don't use email at all. Really? Yeah. Because it's too time consuming or for security purposes?

1:18:56 for a whole host of reasons. So I don't have any of my own accounts and that, you know, I'm very secure. Yeah, you're off the grid. So I thought about this. And so obviously the reason why she claims to not have any email is she doesn't want to be culpable in any of the incredible shenanigans that go on at the Department of Homeland Security because that of course is always how they nail you with the discovery documents. You don't think so? You have a... No, I don't think so based on one of her answers. When she, when he asked her specifically why she didn't use the email and she wouldn't and then he had two, two, uh, two, uh, conjectural, uh, responses that she refused to address and said, I'd do it for a whole host of reasons. Yeah. I honestly believe that she doesn't know how to use a computer at all. No, you're kidding me.

1:19:48 No, I'm absolutely convinced of it by the way she's responded to that. I don't believe she knows how to use a computer at all. She doesn't even know what Amazon is. This is a person that's been a government official all her life. She was a government official. She was a governor. She's been working for Homeland Security, which is essentially a book of, you know, she's got secretaries and helpers and all those people. Take a memo. She is the old-fashioned style of executive that literally, I believe, cannot use a computer at all. She doesn't know how to turn one on. She wouldn't know Windows for Macintosh. This is a complete embarrassment to the entire population of the United States that we have somebody running a department like Homeland Security and discussing cybersecurity and just obviously

1:20:34 mouthing platitudes about you know uh... denial of service attacks she doesn't even know what that is i'm totally convinced of it there's no evidence to the contrary and if you listen and i'm i'm actually going to say that uh... i i think i'm gonna agree with you if you listen to this little follow-up that she adds to this uh... to the submission uh... i think it plays right into your uh... your thesis here. Some would call me a luddite but you know. There you go, she's even saying it. I'm a luddite. What is a Luddite? A Luddite? In today's world, a Luddite is somebody who doesn't like or use computers. Now here's something we hope you'll really like. So did you get that song I emailed you? Yes I did.

1:21:25 You want to play it? Yeah, sure. That's interesting. Before you play it, I'm going to... I ran into this song I was recording. This is from a movie done in 1942 and a lot of people out there don't realize that... Don't realize that both the US, England, and most of the countries in World War II, in 1942, a lot of historians will say that we actually technically have already lost the war. The war was over and the Germans were going to win everything. okay and and so 1942 it was a turnaround mainly because of the productivity the American factories where we were cranking out I mean that William Manchester discusses this in in one of his books and he has all the stats which I should blog one of these days cuz are actually quite phenomenal very like doing a ship a week kinda thing and and like you know 700 aircraft a month and it was really

1:22:20 high turnover or more. But anyway, there was a lot of, they were cranking out a lot of stuff and then there was war turned around and we ended up winning. But then 42, it wasn't clear that we were going to. And so then, so there was a bunch of interesting sociologies that took place during this period. And one of them that fascinated me was this song, which is in a movie, you know, one of these war movies called, and the movie was called Iceland. and uh... uh... i don't have the singer's name but i think the band was sammy k and uh... and i found it interesting because this song is essentially if you read between the lines kind of uh... making a uh... i don't even tell him don't even tell him the alcohol will listen to it and we'll discuss it

1:23:12 Listen, little lady, it's the order of the day, issued by the highest of authority. Fellows in the service simply can't be turned away. You know that defense must be. So if you're patriotically inclined, heed the call to arms. arms and keep this thought in mind. You can't say no to a soldier, a sailor or a handsome marine. No, you can't say no if he wants to dance. If he's gonna fight, he's got a right to rant. So get out your lipstick and be beautiful and dutiful too. If he's

1:24:02 If he's not your type, then it's still okay. You can always kiss him in a sisterly way. Oh, you can't say no. No, you gotta give in if you want him to win for you. You can't say no to a soldier, a sailor or a handsome marine. No, you can't say no if he wants to dance. If he's gonna fight, he's got a right to romance. So get out your lipstick and powder. Be beautiful and dutiful to me. Yeah, that's basically saying

1:25:03 Do your local servicemen so he can win the war. Yeah, basically saying that you know, let's do the whoring out the country because If you don't get you know, cuz you if you don't get to get keep these guys happy, you know You're gonna be stuck with you know, what you get in a war situation. Somebody else takes over. I've raped I really liked it where it was, you know, you can always kiss him in a sisterly way I thought that was pretty funny Yeah, there's also there's a couple twists in there. You know be beautiful and dutiful I gotta try that tonight, honey. You've got a beautiful and dutiful tonight Actually the way the real interesting the little twisted phrase in there was you know if he says it's cold in the submarine you can knit him a sweater, but that's not what he means And then you got was it Popeye or Brutus popping in there yeah that guy I can't remember his name. He's in a lot of movies from that era

1:26:01 He's a... Kind of like an Ernest Borgnine type guy, but that's not him. He's actually a... he was a character actor, showed up here and there in the B-movies mainly. So that must be... so that's part of a film you said? Yes, it's a scene in the movie Iceland. Oh my gosh. And they cut to this song and I just thought it was interesting because it matched the year which is 1942 which is the year that we're losing. The year you were born of course. Yeah, no. And I'm not that old. It was the year we were losing and I don't think that there actually weren't a lot of people born that year because then most people were Fighting was that before Pearl Harbor or post? No, that's after Pearl Harbor. Okay. So yeah, and downer mood for sure and then the Hitler was like, you know beating everybody up and So it was a bad time and and I think a lot but the interesting part of this song which is like telling these women to get out, you know, they get to work having sex and

1:27:05 I think it's kind of lost on, essentially, it seems to me, I think this whole era is completely lost to anybody, today's generations or anybody as a matter of fact. You mean the general vibe and how people felt and what the nation was thinking? Well, you know, you wonder because we have like these war efforts that, you know, like the Vietnam War and all these insincere wars that we've been seemingly in. And you never had this kind of thing where this was actually a desperate situation where people had to do things. And I think this song reflects that in some way that I don't think we'll ever see anything like it again.

1:27:48 Well, I got a couple of things, kind of a, again, a little cultural stuff here I wanted to maybe get to. Sure, hit me. I ran into two new versions of the commercials for Celebrex and Cymbalta, which are the competitive drugs for arthritic people. And I'm trying to decide... Which one is better? Well, there's two of them. Now, and this is interesting because you have a theory. If we can find, we got to find the sales figures for these two. Because if your basic premise, which I'm subscribed to, is correct, the one with the worst sounding side effects, it's gonna kill you, would sell better. Okay. Now, so here's the two. Now, Celebrex has gone to the, will actually use the word death.

1:28:38 They've got good advice. They've got the next layer. So we have to watch the sales figures in the future because this is new as far as I remember. They never talk about death. They always talk about, we'll play this in Balta ad first and it's not that they hint at death but they never say death and it's a little softer sell I think. I think it's not going to do as well. Imagine facing the day with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. Imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. Imagine you with less pain. Cymbalta can help. Cymbalta is FDA approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. One non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain.

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1:30:08 Imagine you with less pain. Simbalta can help. Go to Simbalta.com to learn about a free trial offer. Well they're not lying, you have less pain when you're dead. Now there's a couple things both these commercials did I thought was interesting and I don't know what the genesis of this is but I've never noticed it before in these. You'll feel no pain when you're dead. Cymbalta, because you won't feel pain when you're dead. So he says one non-narcotic pill and the other guys, the guys that did the It's just the Celebrex. They don't say it, but they have a big flashing thing, non-narcotic, non-narcotic. So I guess there must be a third alternative that's narcotic or maybe they're trying to tell people you have to take morphine and this is better. I don't know. It's simple physics. A body at rest tends to stay at rest.

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1:31:50 when NSAIDs are taken for long periods. NSAIDs including Celebrex increase the chance of serious skin or allergic reactions or stomach and intestine problems such as bleeding and ulcers which can occur without warning and may cause death. Patients also taking aspirin and the elderly are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers. Do not take Celebrex if you've had an asthma attack, hives or other allergies to aspirin, NSAIDs or sulfonamides. Get help right away if you have swelling of the face or throat or trouble breathing. Tell your doctor your medical history and find an arthritis treatment for you. Visit Celebrex.com and ask your doctor about Celebrex for a body in motion. Okay, now before you say anything, I've done the research here. Now, first of all, let me say that even though they played the death card in the Celebrex, I think the Cymbalta sounded worse. Because this guy said, he said like, you know, it could be death.

1:32:41 I really feel that Symbalta sounded worse than Celebrex. You disagree? I thought they were pretty well balanced. They had a lot of symptoms that you could get and a lot of, there was a few extra ones like the swelling of the head. I thought that was unusual. But it caused death. My head is really big and swollen, man. The other one had if you're confused, call your doctor. If you're confused, you won't know what to do. No, but there was a lot more. Anyway, the results are here. Celebrex annual revenue 2.5 billion dollars, Cymbalta annual revenue 3 billion dollars. So maybe, now this is a reasonably new ad, so maybe Celebrex was like, man those guys they're kicking our ass, we gotta step it up, what can we do? Just say death. Okay, so we'll check in a year and we'll see because I think that the theory still holds true.

1:33:44 The results should show up in the next two quarters, feasibility in six months. You can place a bet on it. Get an option call in there. And of course it reminds me that we are so stupid. We are so... I mean, I know people are going like, FacePalm, really? You're stupid? Like we didn't know that? Here's our jingle. If you wake up with the blues, trying to fill your day with news, there's one thing you must remember, no agenda in the morning. For a healthy balanced news diet, try noagendashow.com. Yeah, well someone will come up with a good one for us. Yeah, well we gotta get Sir Jeff Smith. We have to have death in that. You may die after consumption of no agenda. Enjoy! So, the capability we have, which we're not harnessing, by the way, we are such losers as human beings. We'll come around, I'm pretty hopeful, that we're all waiting for some company to do it or some

1:35:01 I'm not going to be able to do that. I ring is a bell but you better I don't know okay so sidecar is essentially it's a system it's an app and you as a private citizen can decide that you are going to be driving people around like a cab around town yeah yeah no we have that here there's a number of there's three or four of these things around country different brands of these things. So sidecars interesting because it really is citizens themselves who then decide to become a driver and then you can look and see you know and you see where the cars nearby and you can tap on it see that guy looks like a creep I don't want him picking me up so no you know you get you select someone else. This by the way is a 40 year cycle again this is a the modern version of what we used to have in the 70s which was hitchhiking. Right, hitchhiking. And

1:35:58 uh... with a hitchhiking was actually better this is the problem because here well within a and and and and now there's a company in the company is you know involved in middleman it's like why why can't we just be the problem is we have bought into this cheap mirrors and trinkets idea of, oh, there's a cool service, there's Twitter and all this stuff, when we need to be using the protocols that we control so that we can self radicalize, I'll use that term, organize ourselves because it's a beautiful system, it's a beautiful idea, but there always has to be someone in the middle making money and that screws everything up every single time. And for some reason we've been programmed into not seeing that that is not the way to go.

1:36:45 uh... feel like the the the the idiot who just keeps walking into the door that the little schools close close close close close how many times are we gonna hit our head against this wall until we understand what we really have to do that sounds like drone talk so i did i would have something that that came up on the news but i just need to go back to our show on thursday only took him a couple days to come up with the big lie so uh... the new president of france Who are, by the way, when it comes to the best podcast in the universe, the French are incredibly cheap bastards. They don't even listen. So the president of France went to Mali, went to Timbuktu for a victory lap. Did you see this? No. Oh yeah.

1:37:37 Three weeks after launching an assault against Al-Qaeda-aligned militants in the north of Mali, the President of France was here on what amounted to a victory tour. He never declared mission accomplished, but but he was certainly cheered and even hugged as he walked through the streets of the ancient city of Timbuktu. Until a few days ago, he wouldn't have been able to. It was controlled by militant jihadists who have now fled after French paratroopers landed on the edges of this iconic community. But President Hollande thanked his troops, the French,

1:38:12 French and the Malians as well, as well as ordinary people. But he added that in the future the job of protecting iconic communities like this one won't be that of France, but of Malian and West African troops. They are now moving into the city in order to secure this ancient community. Okay, so a couple of things with this report. First of all, So this white dude comes down from the heavens, and I don't know you know if you see the video There's just like a whole bunch of Malians jumping up and down and they're jumping on his neck and like oh I mean, I don't know what they told him who this guy was they probably said yeah This is Brad Pitt's brother or something They don't have no idea now. This sounds like it was a victory lap. He went in he saved the Malians They're so happy oh oh

1:38:59 Oh, President Hollande, we love you so much, je t'aime, je t'aime, je t'aime. Please listen to the report of what went down when they took Timbuktu back from the militants. This is only from Thursday. The airport was quickly secured. French soldiers and a few Malian units moved into town without firing a single shot. Not a single shot was fired. There were no militants, there was no Al-Qaeda, there was nothing there. They just walked right and they dropped out of the sky and there was no it was like remember when we landed in Mogadishu at night and CNN was on the shore filming him and the Marines were like, oh what?

1:39:37 It's the same thing. There was no Al Qaeda, there were no terrorists. So what are these people so happy for? This is all staged obviously. Totally bull crap. And then, what is this? I know what they were jumping up and down for. They gave each one of them two francs. Here's some mush. Yeah, exactly. Are you hungry? You want a burger? He's gonna be giving everyone money. The more you jump, the more money you'll make. Jump! Jump! One of those guys, one of those set up guys on those shows they have on television with an audience. With his script, and he's clapping his script in his hands. Yeah, set up guy. Come on, give him a round of applause. When the sign goes on, applause like crazy. We'll give you a dollar if you do that. Exactly! And I was just like, and what is this iconic community? This, this, what is all this bull crap? What is that supposed to be? They're trying to turn it into a tourist trap.

1:40:28 It's gonna be you're right. You're so right come visit the iconic community of Timbuktu You've heard about the song you've heard the band now come to see the iconic legendary historic community of Timbuktu Yeah, they'll put a nice airport runway in there people go to Timbuktu and stay at the Four Seasons You know maybe they can stay in a teepee Well, maybe one of the two. Now, I just have a couple things in the war on ammo. So, Erin Burnett, as we say here in Texas, because everything is Burnett Road, she

1:41:21 She did the most horrible thing. Now we know that as a part of this whole gun conversation, which by the way I just I want to point out that we have military doing exercises over our cities. We're going to have the Sandy Hook children will be singing at the Super Bowl apparently like, oh, You know, it's like, oh, we can't have guns, you know, guns are bad. But of course the Super Bowl will start with jets flying overhead and military marching bands. It's like, guns are great in America as long as you don't have them. Alright? Just the insanity of this.

1:41:57 And of course we are looking at insanity literally from a perspective of are people drugged? And now everyone's coming out and saying, well, you know, there's a high correlation between these mass shootings and these guys have been on drugs, except they never actually report that. They only say it after the fact a little bit. It's never like he was on drugs. Never ever is that in the report. But the high correlation between video games, not the media. It's not television and movies because, no, we give them a tax break, we love them because they help get our politicians elected and stay in office. So we will stay away from the media but we will tackle video games. So Erin Burnett has a constitutional law professor on from Harvard and she is going to state the fact that video games

1:42:48 make, turn men into violent mass shooters. Fact. And he's going to debunk it and she's going to just steamroll over him, particularly when he goes off script. You'll like it. ...he's declined. There's the saying that guns don't kill people, video games do. Do you know this saying, John? I've never heard this saying, this old saying. This old saying that comes from the wild west. Guns don't kill people, video games kill people. Oh but wait there's more. Senator Grassley implies they make kids more violent, does it add up? William Pollack is a psychologist and author of Real Boys, rescuing our sons from the myths of

1:43:29 boyhood. Sir, I really appreciate your taking the time. Let me just ask you the point-blank question. It is a lot of people out there now, this is accepted as a fact that all these violent games, and by the way, they are horrifically violent. It's accepted as a fact. It's accepted as a fact. Do you hear what she's saying? Yeah, she says it's accepted as a fact when in fact it's not accepted as a fact, just the opposite. Is why we are seeing this seemingly explosion in mass shootings. True? and now i'm not sure i mean i agree with the senator we should put some controls on those violent video games but they don't cause the shootings anything more than one item does so this is where already erin's like hopefully invited this guy it's a fact it's a fact and that man did say that he trained on a video game

1:44:23 Oh, I have no doubt about it. I agree with Senator Grassley. We need controls over violence in our media and in our- Ooh! Oh no! Oh no! He didn't! He didn't say violence in our media, did he? Oh! Aaron! Aaron! Get to work, girl! Video games, especially for younger children. Uh, but- that alone isn't the answer. Those controls? Yeah. But what about, let me just ask you another question about Grand Theft Auto. So let's go right over the media thing. Let's go right back to video games. Grand Theft Auto. There's probably some viewers out there playing this all the time. All right, this turns, when you kill people, you win points, right? For example, you kill a prostitute and that's a big thing. You get to win points. I mean, you know, I find that offensive and disgusting, but... Hold on, Erin. As a prostitute, I'm

1:45:11 I find that offensive. Exactly. As a prostitute, I find that very offensive. You don't kill hookers? I find that offensive. That would be like me. Does that mean that those people who play that game are more likely to kill people? No, it's heinous. So he's saying no, now she's going to have to discredit this guy, law professor. It's heinous and it's possible that boys who watch that for a long period of time might stand back when fighting occurs and not protect someone or engage in domestic violence. But there's no proof that they're going to go out, get a gun and shoot someone. Absolutely no proof at all.

1:45:55 Alright, well thank you very much. We appreciate your taking the time and giving some provocative answers there. Provocative answers. Provocative answers. So the comedy development is... Pushback, fallout. Provocative answers. Yes, controversial and provocative answers. So this is what it's going to be. Fact. Guns don't kill people video games kill people fact when you kill hookers in Grand Theft Auto You want to kill people for points in real life fact? She's an idiot. Oh, yeah, she would. Oh, yeah, absolutely She's a CFR member. She's in that drinking club So while we're done this topic I know and then listen to this this is a commercial for MSNBC moving forward or whatever their

1:46:42 their Nazi-stic slogan is. Listen to the tell me what's missing. We must have a renewed fight for many of the things we fought for because voting rights and women's rights and the rights of people against discrimination whether they're African-American, Latino, lesbian and gay must be protected until we have a nation that is really living up to the creed of one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all not all of one kind What all? Alright, what did you miss? I don't know, I couldn't, he damn near put me to sleep halfway through, what did I miss? Okay, so two things, first of all, no racism against blacks, Latinos, gays, lesbians, nothing about white people or women or, you know, so that's all that is. But no, he left out God. He's doing the Pledge of Allegiance

1:47:46 One nation indivisible and then he says with liberty and justice for all what happened to the God part and he's a Yeah, listen to it. It was really crazy It's really living up to the creed of one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all Okay, I mean, I don't mind but I thought it's interesting. He is the Reverend Al Sharpton. Is he not? Yeah. Yeah. I think he's an atheist. I think he's an a-hole Wow, that goes without saying the rest of it is up for debate Meanwhile, I will be starting a new business when we move into town. I have a new business idea Dutch bikes in Austin some for some reason

1:48:33 In America in general, someone decided that bicycles could only be one of two kinds. 10-speed racing bicycles or mountain bicycles. What happened to the utility bicycle? Like you know a bike... Yeah, the regular cheap bike you used to have when you were a kid. Well not just that but one that has a basket. Yeah, with a basket in front. Yeah, a utility bicycle. What happened to this concept? I checked every single bicycle store. I go around here where there's all these bike lanes and there's nobody using the bicycle like that to go to the store. No, they got their Speedos on and they got a high-speed bike and they're pumping away.

1:49:14 up and down and up and down, they're not doing anything, I mean, it's exercise, you might as well be on a stationary bike if you're just gonna exercise in the bike lane. When you're in Holland, people are going from point A to point B, they're not exercising. And they're not demanding a bike lane because, so I can exercise in the bike lane. No, and Austinites, you know, they ride bikes a lot. I think you've stumbled onto something, you've stumbled onto the fraud of bicycling. Yeah, but what happened? I mean, if they would just be a fixie that's what they're called they're called fixes but you just need to just mean i think people would really take to it you were going to be living right near south congress it's a little too many as little too far to walk but you know we drove from the new house at the south congress to get some water like this is stupid and i take a more time to park

1:50:02 Then you know then you have to diagonal park back into the parking spots on South Congress, which is kind of cool But it's a pain in the ass. No, it's not cool And yeah, but it's like I just I just want a bike and then look around they have those types of things to make sure people have their front license plate I don't have a front license plate and I never got one. Well you're probably going to get a ticket. No, I'm not going to get a ticket. Back in parking bull crap. So I want a bike. Do you know what a bike costs? You can't get a bike. You want to buy a bike? It's like a mountain bike or a ten speed bike. $900 for a freaking bike. Which will get stolen.

1:50:41 Maybe, maybe not. No one will steal the bike you're talking about. But in Amsterdam I can just go to the central station and just like some junk will sell me a bike for 10 euros and then that'll get stolen and I'll buy another one. It's a rotating system. But just a utility bicycle where you could put your briefcase in if you're going to the office. You know, Austin is a great, it's flat. generally flat. We have lots of room to ride your bike. People ride bikes but they're stupid. You got no fenders so if it rains and you get wet because the fenders, you have to put a light on your arm. What happened to a light on the bicycle?

1:51:23 This is stupid, we need a reset. When I was a kid, we had bikes that had lights. I'm telling you. And we'd make noise with playing cards in the spokes. And you could put your girlfriend on the back of the bike and... She can be riding with you. Yeah, it's cute. Or on the front, on the handlebars. When I was a kid, yeah, I had my girlfriend riding on the handlebars. There were songs about this! Hold on. There were songs about this! There's a law against it now! There were songs... let me see, I gotta find the song now. It had a bike. It had fenders. You're laughing at me! But I think... And it had one speed. I think this is a business. I think there's a business... You pump at the one speed. In... in... what is it called? Fixie? Fixie bikes.

1:52:19 Yeah, this bank the Alessi brothers. Oh Laurie. I'd like to ride my bicycle With you on the handlebars you laugh and run away do I mean come on? The songs about this stuff no now you can't ride on the front of your 10-speed bike on the head of what a helmet on yeah And we don't need helmets in Austin even better. I need helmets stupid you look like the doofus with your helmet on like you're going so fast and Well, that's the end of our clip show number two.

1:53:09 Right. Let's be honest, we did this before we produced the whole thing. So it's kind of hard. We perform from a natural perspective. We're trying to fake it. It makes it sound like we're faking it because we're not really bad when we fake it But that's Makes us that's why we're the best podcast in universe who we don't bullcrap you we don't we have another show coming up on Sunday We want to make sure that people realize it's all original content You haven't heard this stuff before unless you listen to the book show where they do one thing Adam has is old But it's not that old it is it's relevant and so it'll be a good show

1:53:50 Everybody's still floating around. I'm gonna hopefully I'll be in Detroit when I'm hearing this live You really you're really planning on going to Detroit you might like to yes, I would like to do that I've already got some heat Oh, he's got heat. Yeah, exactly. So we're gonna wrap this up. Please remember that we would like to continue with our producerships. You're going to get full credit in the show notes for each episode. But of course, we'll be thanking you personally on August 1st when we return with a full on live no agenda on that will be Thursday, the first

1:54:26 Dvorak.org slash NA we do need your help contributions also any birthdays that we miss will do that belated as well. All right well play the play the play us out maestro. Really you want to have the whole music? Yeah we can do that that's kind of cool I guess. And yeah so the clip show is this was the clip show again thank you very much Ramsey Cain really appreciate the work you did on that. NoahJennaCD.com which his boss pays him to do that. I'm not quite sure how that works but I like it regardless. Tell me about the guy that you interviewed for the show on Sunday.

1:55:09 Yes, John Dixon, he's a former Air Force intelligence guy who runs a software security operation in Texas and he has some thoughts on the NSA and all the other stuff going on. I thought it was interesting enough to put it together as an interview. Right. So that along with Daniel Suarez from Kill Decision and of course Demon and Freedom TM. So enjoy that. That'll be on Sunday. We'll talk to you again on then to intro that show. Coming to you from somewhere in the United States of Europe, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I am on tape, I'm John C. Dvorak. Okay, make sure you catch it on Sunday right here on No Agenda.