Boston Brakes

00:00 Glenn Greenwald is out there and he's the hitman. Icon to reflect my apathy here in the Travis Heights hideout in Austin Tejas capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley asking the question What is the color of apathy? I'm John C Dvorak Does it matter Well, hello Mortimer, I think you only is does it matter if it doesn't matter Mortimer I think you owe me $1

00:45 Uh, bull. What do you mean? I said there would be no riots. There was a riot in Oakland! A hundred people burning a container is not a riot, John. Please. Broken windows. Oh whoo! There's more... What do you define as a riot? Like LA Riots come on. A riot... Those were exceptional. Now we're gonna get technical please. I was right. No riots that you had 100 people in Oakland and And that's it. And there is another one scheduled today. Oh boy, okay keep your dollar! And San Francisco... Those are not riots they don't schedule a riot They schedule a protest march You know who is behind this? I got the biggest kick out of watching this because they have printed signs This whole thing is so disgusting but please give me this then Keep your dollar

01:41 It certainly didn't pan out the way they hoped it would. Well, I think anyone who actually followed the trial might be a little unshocked by the results Well, not the results of the trial. I'm saying the results of people getting angry and taking to the streets. This has shown that we are a nation of apathetic couch potatoes who do not care and who will not actually go out and let our voices be heard on the street It does not happen anymore! I disagree completely there's a lot of people that want their voices to be heard on the street in fact...I have a clip

02:19 Play the clip, SF idiots on the street respond to Zimmerman and there's some great really fantastic analysis here. Demonstrators say this trial has stirred up plenty of emotions It's a son it's a brother how many more family members black brown communities have to be targeted before they identify this is a racist system? Quite frankly the young black man Trayvon Martin was put on trial for his own murder I think it was really unfair He's free and he actually killed Trayvon Martin for nothing. Wait, he killed Trayvon Martin for nothing? For nothing! You don't have the right clip man you don't have it I'm sorry you don't have the right clip Do you want to clip here brother? I'm there Alright Jesse Jackson alright

03:12 Are you ready brother? That's always a topper. Stand back, now first we gotta get into how the justice system has failed. Apparently he wasn't watching any court proceedings but he ends it with just a bute. First question obviously what was your reaction to this verdict? Frankly I am stunned over this grace of this tremendous miscarriage of justice. Isn't that great? Right there, I'm like okay keep it going Jesse. What would the appropriate term be John not miscarriage of justice clearly although that's a title right there what is the proper term? I'm an idiot sign Jesse. When the jury says he is not guilty he's at least guilty of murder

04:03 No, no I'm sorry. What? When the jury says not guilty he's at least guilty of murder just so you know. Armed man racially pursuing and profiling a young African-American boy and kills him an in this case the prosecutor denied should i say ignored the matter of race and the defense turned it, denied it. But the fact of the matter is this isn't a pattern behavior toward young African-American men, whether it is Grant in Oakland or Diallo in New York or Trayvon Martin in Florida. Okay get ready for it! And its very painful. Reverend I want to ask you about the makeup of the jury You tweeted this after the verdict was handed down. You tweeted that the jury no black and no man was always suspect Do you feel that this affected the outcome? The makeup of the jury

05:00 well we will lose a stretch trying to avoid the obvious that there was no you speak of your appears i was no man on the jury and trade one was it wasn't black boy there's no bar no man no black in the jurors who at least or the idea of a europeans was was a stretch all the while okay let me just explain to the reverend jesse jackson uh... it is typically not be uh... did uh... it the person who's dead or the prosecution, it is the defendant who gets the jury of peers. And no mention by the way from this fine MSNBC person that he's insane! Who what? Jesse? Yeah and he was sitting there saying Trayvon Martin did not have... He hasn't even seen any of the trial, didn't follow it. But John did you even hear what he said?!

05:52 I don't think you heard it. What did he say? He says that there was no jury of peers for Trayvon, that there should have been... Yeah but that's not- You get a jury of peers for- That's what the point you're making! But most people don't even hear this stupid MSNBC woman didn't even hear it! She- What are you- They were at MSNBC! So we had a guy, here's a black lawyer very famous civil rights attorney been around forever kind of sums it up he is not upset by this in the least. His name is John Burris and he says as far I'm concerned this summarizes the whole thing

06:31 Oakland-based civil rights attorney John Burris said he was not surprised by the Zimmerman verdict. He spoke to ABC 7 News tonight The prosecution put on a witness that said there was a fight that was taking place, it looked like a fight but Trayvon was on top of Mr. Zimmerman That prosecution put that witness on That witness turned out to be better for defense and in my own view ultimately was the linchpin of the defense's case Right And yeah, this only leads me to believe that the whole thing was rigged and the prosecution was out to lunch. Yeah!

07:09 And I stand... You hear the latest thing that at the very end they started doing all kinds of crazy things like they wanted to add some charges including child abuse. Yeah, yeah and that was good! That was excellent So a couple things about this and I really wholeheartedly disagree I really, well I disagree that we have seen riots. Yeah there's people protesting and marching and last night some people burned some stuff but more happens when the basketball team wins. That's the point you should've made to begin with. It's alright but just that isn't even classified as a riot it's just like people celebrating

07:55 It was a celebratory action. They were turning over cop cars and torching them? No, they didn't even turn over a cop car! Oh you're talking about during the basketball game? Right right yeah because they did like F the police or whatever is what they painted so there were no real riots this is in my mind actually a very very sad day for the United States because we cannot even get the population of the United States, of Gitmo Nation who actually have a real reason to riot because they're living in squalor and poverty and racial profiling and all kinds of bull crap that happens in the lower class sections of our society that we don't really talk about. Don't really see certainly don't talk about all the real violence that goes on there on a daily basis

08:41 And no one really, even they can't bring themselves to get up and get angry about it. So that's it! It's always the middle class that riots because of all the damage. The lower classes have never risen up Can I mention something here before you get carried away with all this pontificating? This to me was always a local story The fact that anybody's even lighting a can of trash and I do owe you $1 in Oakland is ludicrous to me. What's not a local? Oakland's got nothing to do with what's going on locally in Florida, no we should even care this thing was blown out of proportion by Al Sharpton And Jesse Jackson he helped out yeah He helped out

09:20 I did get one clip that i was kind of happy about last night, this was a local story, a local news report in Florida about what the response was to the verdict. Tallahassee resident Caleb Ross is on his way to a voting rights rally at the Florida Capitol but he's chosen a different way to rally for Trayvon Martin He's changed his profile picture on the social website Instagram to all black. I feel like it is a good cause, and very innovative for youth to do that and i see alot of my collegiate peers doing the same thing all around the nation Black squares are popping up all over Facebook Twitter and Instagram Trayvon supporters who are changing their profile pics to black are calling it a blackout It's a good way to rally for Trayvon

10:08 Some online posts and comments argue that using social media in this case is pointless, and the blackout has no bearing on the trial. Wendell McGahee is on the fence about whether to change his picture. I don't think it makes a big difference, I mean we wore hoodies and walked around with Skittle wrappers and soda cans. This Facebook post says... Yeah because remember he was just drinking some iced tea and eating Skittles. Oh soda cans! No a black picture won't change the verdict just as a pink ribbon won't cure cancer. Exactly! It's called support You never know what impact it could possibly have

10:45 But this is and I have to say, I think that's kind of where it started. This really stood the pre social networking we had the red AIDS ribbon And that was kind of, I think that must have been the start John. Don't you think we had the red AIDS ribbon? No no, I think the yellow ribbon around the old oak trees where it started during... So Tony Orlando is to blame for all this! I honestly believe that's true Because the ribbon, that was the first ribbon, it was MIA or something like that and it was a yellow ribbon Yeah well its when you come home tie a yellow ribbon around your... Then the little AIDS ribbon became like an iconic ribbon and then it stuck on

11:23 I think that I still would trace it back to Tony Orlando. There was a point in when I was still in mainstream douchebaggery and a minor celebrity on the scale, you could not go really to any public function certainly not an award show but you kind of couldn't go to anything if you didn't have a red ribbon. In fact there would be people at the At the door, like oh Adam hi yeah welcome. Here we've got your ribbon Is this right? Is this true? It's absolutely true So you got called out for not having a bunch of decoration Well they didn't call me out but they would pull me aside We've got a ribbon for you here Kind of like when you go to the Princeton club and don't have a tie Oh right so they have a piece-of-crap tie I have done that a couple times too in the Princeton They had to wear an orange tie it was really stupid

12:14 On the Bill Moyers journal, there's a guy who was interviewed and this may not be coincidence that this aired this weekend. Marty Kaplan? Are you familiar with this guy? Marty Kaplan? The name rings a bell but I don't know him. He wrote a book and so they kind of lead in Looking at the riots in Brazil. Those are riots by the way And and I might want to point out there's some actual writing going on in Northern Ireland for the past two days You know like 30 40 cops or wounded, you know that's some rioting right there That's real riding. Do you have a do have a little checklist?

12:51 What what a riot is yeah? Yeah, I think I think if cops are down and we need to put together the official no agenda Riot official riot checklist good idea commit. Let me just look at the book of knowledge for no one's ever has ever done that let me see Riot Wikipedia, let's see we can look there and see what the Wikipedia says Riot is a form of civil disorder characterized often by what is thought of, see already it's slippery slope as disorganized groups lashing out in sudden and intense rash violence against authority property or people. So I looked at the signage that these Oakland guys are all carrying they're very beautifully printed obviously took you know some time before trial was over. Oh yeah, oh yeah, of course It says that old group answer

13:40 If you track it down, he said old group answer A.N.S., these guys used to be in all these demonstrations and it's actually the World Workers Party out of New York Oh really? Yeah Is that a union? The Worlds Worker Party No its just the straight up socialist front There is no union I know involved with any of these guys And they have offices all over the place but all with different monikers It's just a sleazebag operation of some sort. I think you're onto something though, we should have the no agenda riot checklist and i think certainly if you have printed signs it by definition cannot be a riot would you agree? Yep! I'll put that on the list okay so printed signs no good has to be handwritten

14:33 Well, there are certain levels. I think there has to be a percentage of cops have to be wounded This is where our checklist goes to pot because Those guys are encouraging hitting here's Marty Kaplan and he starts off in response with Bill here About we really what it's about is why the United States is a nation of icon changers Tell me at any moment when you're tired of hearing him. It's only a minute or so, but it's pretty much what we've always been saying. Kevin welcome! Thanks very much and congratulations on those awards. Yes thank you. Thank you recently... Words we will never hear John

15:13 Congratulations on all those awards. He confessed to outrage envy, what's that about? It's my feeling that what happened in Brazil which is so encouraging about citizens taking their destiny in their own hands is not happening here we... Wait hold on a second Is this Liberace talking? Yeah exactly and hunger, and crumbling infrastructure, a tax system out of whack in a corrupt political system. Why are we not also taking to the streets is the question? And I want us to... You wrote if you're not outraged, you're not paying attention

15:55 So are we not paying attention? We are paying attention to the wrong things. We're paying attention to infotainment, which is being spoon fed us and sadly frankly we are enabling because we love this stuff. The infotainment narrative of life in America you call it Yes The tragedy of journalism now is that it is demand driven and when you ask people what they want, we're like one of those rats that have a lever to push and cocaine comes out. And once that happens one time...

16:31 Where is that lever? It's coming. I'll sign up, can it come with me? It's a vending machine. Can it be part of my Google Glass where I just press and cocaine comes out? That sounds like the next add-on. You just tilt your eyes up like that and coke comes out while you're watching Honey Boo Boo I could go for that. So this is actually very entertaining to watch, unfortunately you're about halfway into it and then he goes into... You know the president talked about climate change and no one was outraged! And like okay really? They always do it so but this does bring some because he goes into journalism this does bring some very interesting topics for the forefront and something that happened in the midst of all this hullabaloo

17:21 is, well there was a little report that came out that I don't think got a lot of attention if any at all and the announcement...I didn't even know it myself until i had my daily viewing of Spokes Whole Carney because this is the stuff we do. You know, we watch this stuff. We watch the press briefings and... Hey! What? I got another video running on my Skype! Oh no! What is it this time? Audience dot TV Why don't you sign up for a... Advertisement Why don't you sign up for like Skype calling? Is that gonna eliminate this crap?! Yes! I think if you sign up for a Skype calling plan when you just put like five bucks on it they eliminate

18:04 There's a... someone sent me a link about this. This is getting on my nerves Well, hello you took the free shiny trinket you've got to take the thing Alright alright go on so you've been watching Carney Yeah here he is Which is a thrill President's session today with the Attorney General and has accepted Eric Holder's report media relations and investigations. The president did meet with the Attorney General today in the Oval. By the way, how does that sound? He met with him in the oval? In the oval! Who would let that show up as a way to say it?! First time I've heard it...in the oval. It sounds like something that the cage match wrestlers would have. They're gonna be in the Oval tonight! Oakland Coliseum 9 p.m

18:47 Eric Holder, Barack Obama in the Oval tonight. I need a little... Eric Holder, Barack Obama in the Oval tonight! Yeah, that'll work. I immediately thought it was more like an anal thing. I don't know...I was like yeah he was in the oval like ooh! Okay. What you think? Yeah that's what i think here's the rest and uh The Attorney General did discuss with him and present to him That report. I believe the Department of Justice will be releasing that report this afternoon but I refer you to them So if they're releasing it this afternoon, that indicates that the president did accept it as it was presented? Yeah I think that's a fair assessment to make. We won't have any statement or comment on it before its release but I believe the Department of Justice is releasing it today Okay Did you hear anything about this report John No I don't know what he's talking about and I don't know what your talking about That's how obscure it is

19:42 First let me tell you that there is a The Skype commercials is new and I'll put a link in the show notes. Thank you very much chat room That shows how you're going to now be inundated with loud ads In fact, they are called loud sky pads Okay The report that came out was the self-induced report about the spying on the media Had that the Attorney General promised he would investigate himself You recall this Vaguely. Okay, anyway it's a very important report it was discussed in the Oval as you just heard It is the Department of Justice Report on Review of News Media Policies In other words how we deal with The news media when it comes to investigating them I think we do need to before go any further We need to one more time...I should have this plastered on the wall and fact that I need to get one those Eric things

20:42 One more time I'd like to just recite the very short line that is the first amendment of the United States Constitution. It's very important in this case, just so you understand Congress shall make no law, no law, I repeat no law respecting establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press. So I will abbreviate Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or no law abridging the freedom of speech or of the press." No Law! And now let's take a look at Eric Holder's document which was discussed in The Oval and as you just heard the President approves it

21:20 In May 2013, at the President's direction, the Attorney General initiated a comprehensive evaluation of the Department of Justice's policies and practices governing the use of law enforcement tools including subpoenas court orders and search warrants to obtain information or records from or concerning members of the news media. I think this is important John because guess what we're probably not members of the news media. Speak for yourself! Criminal and civil investigations As part of this process, the Attorney General convened a series of meetings to solicit input from a wide range of news media stakeholders. Were you invited? I'm not a stakeholder! First Amendment academics... I was holding a pork chop at the time! ...and advocates as well as members of Congress. Based on this review, the Attorney General is making significant revisions to the Department's policies regarding investigations that involve members of the news media. Well

22:19 That is just the preamble. The department views the use of tools to seek evidence from or involve in the news media as an extraordinary measure! The department's policy is to utilize such tools only as a last resort after all reasonable alternative investigative steps have been taken and when the information sought is essential to a successful investigation or prosecution. Gee, that sounds pretty much... Prosecution? Yes, it's literally what it says. Prosecution of what? Period. Of a media member? Like that poor guy from Fox? This is what it's all about!

22:57 So they just want to go after the media? No, no. This has a very specific goal in mind which is coming up in seconds The changes and policy outlined in this report are intended to further ensure the department strikes the appropriate balance between two vital interests Protecting the American people by pursuing those who violate their oaths through unlawful disclosures of information Let me just read that again. One of the vital interests is protecting the American people by pursuing those who violate their oaths through unlawful disclosures of information, and safeguarding the essential role of a free press in fostering government accountability and open society

23:47 Right. In addition, I'm skipping through the report here... or codify, whichever you prefer. Codifies. Many of the principles that inform the policy guidance described in this report so the way I read that is what we're really going for here and what this has always been about and when i believe even the snow job is about is to instate a law which would be unconstitutional by definition a media shield law and this is the blueprint for that John because it was discussed in The Oval and everyone's all-in on

24:40 So here the President and the Attorney General restate in this document that Congress needs to pass a media shield law which would codify all of the principles described in this report. I'll just highlight a few. Reversing the existing presumption regarding advance notice, now I could read this whole thing but I'm just going to summarize it for you The Attorney General says, well you know what we're going to do? We're going to notify you if we are going to be snooping on your shit. However there are of course certain specific cases like... Well gee could that be...

25:21 Well, since we've talked about it here, it is on national security be at the top of the list. I'll read it to you so that they can delay this notification for 45 days or up to 90 days which is probably long enough to get all of your emails and everything else you need. Yeah, it takes... You know, It's not something you get instantly. For compelling reasons advanced notice and negotiations would pose a clear and substantial threat to the integrity of the investigation, risk grave harm to national security or present an imminent risk of death or serious bodily harm. In those cases they do not have to notify the press and it'll go into the 45-day period which will be determined by the Attorney General Here's the beauty part under the new policy

26:09 The presumption of advance notice will be overcome only if the Attorney General affirmatively determines, taking into account recommendations from the newly established News Media Review Committee. Yeah! Who should be on the News Media Review Committee? Let's see... Establishment of the News Media Review Committee It will include senior department officials, including but not limited to departments director of the office of public affairs and the department's chief privacy and chief civil liberties officer. That's it! That's your media review committee that doesn't include any actual members of the media. Yeah it's pretty pathetic technical okay that's a good catch yeah I'll just finalize here keep an eye on that well they will establish a media dialogue group

27:08 What does that mean? Well, the department will establish an Attorney General's News Media Dialogue Group to assess the impact of the Department's revised news media policies and to maintain a dialogue with the news media. This group will meet six months after the proposed revisions to the Department's news media policies are effective and on an annual basis thereafter! The group will meet to discuss any policy issues relating to the application of the department's news media policies. The group will include members of the news media, attorneys from various department components and the director of the Department's Office of Public Affairs." So let's look at this in a more realistic light. They've already got the news media in their pocket

27:58 that's not good enough? No. They got it set up right now so it looks kind of legit and they have you know the whole thing is kind of peopled with all these Obama bots let's put it that way yeah but that's not good enough because there may be one lone wolf out there mm-hmm that might actually write something meaningful just might say something meaningful let's say Greg you know whoever I'm not even gonna put Glenn Greenwald in that. No, you're not allowed to. And by the way I think and we have to discuss this before the show is over might as well discuss it now talking about idiots in the news media

28:36 This of course, this was a I don't know if this was an international story but it was a good distraction of the week which we really haven't seen a good one for awhile. And I thought this was a gem which was the reading of the bogus names of the pilots which... Wait before you get into that can i just finish off your Greenwald thought there for a moment? Well I've got some green wall clips too and you can finish them off then or now It'll just take me a moment Um... When because you were talking about the news media and how they've already got him in their pocket So when I was berating the freedom the Freedom of the Press Foundation on Thursday, right? so one of our producers helpfully tweeted Trevor Tim with double M Right. That's the long that we didn't have the Wikipedia entry right he has no Wikipedia entry And he said yo Adam Curry calling you guys out of shills and he and he responded and he's like okay great Jim did yes Trevor tip so looking to Trevor Tim

29:36 And not only has he written articles encouraging the creation of a media shield law, which is insane for any journalist to even consider. He actually co-wrote the book on the First Amendment! This is how insane this is! So he is an activist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, specializes in surveillance free speech apparently not. No Government transparency issues and then he says he works for the former president of the ACLU and at The New Yorker graduated from Northeastern and is a lawyer yeah but here it is He helped the longtime general counsel of The New York Times James Goodale write a book on

30:29 Which literally says, Congress shall create no law. And this guy is advocating if you look down below on that page I think that's where you are You'll see that he is advocating a media shield law So this freedom of the press foundation like internet freedom They don't want this they want exactly the opposite Well, that's the way you do it. Right! But I... but you know it has to be said. Somebody's gotta say it and we just did. And you know what? It's not gonna mean a damn thing. No thats just what you say. I have influence Well, you do actually so let's get to let's talk about the idiots in the media who would see a teleprompter now I got a couple questions about this and then let's face it. This is a distraction of the week I'd like to hear the theme yeah Now I would assume the international audience

31:27 I don't, I would assume the international audience knows little of this but i suppose it got out a little bit. So let's...I think it got pretty viral Let's play pilots uh this is the KTVU woman who seems like a pleasant enough person reading from the prompter She looks like a soccer mom, lets be honest with you. Totally, totally soccer mom Reading the prompter on weekends that's who this is And just to preface there also a chiron so the Chiron guy wrote this up So he wrote it up. So there's a number of people involved here and then the part I want to discuss is how people start blaming each other and the latest... Well, let's play it so for people who have not heard it and I'm pretty sure just about everyone who listens this show has heard but you'd be surprised! You'll be surprised and I'm glad you have the clip because its important just for historical reasons that we haven't documented And by the way best clip

32:20 I mean if it wasn't already out there would have been clip of the day for either us. I love this, this...I made..I peed my pants. Cause death and whether she was already dead when the truck hit her we have new information now also on the plane crash KTVU has just learned the names of the four pilots who were on board the flight they are Captain Sum Ting Wong We too low holy fuk and bang dang owl in the NTSB has confirmed These are the names of the pilots on board flight 214 when it crashed we are working to determine exactly what roles each of them played during a landing And I'm amazed by this. I saw this like, this is

33:03 This is so good and the thing that disappointed me, everyone laughs at this. Everyone is laughing with this it's funny It's hilarious I love humor in a sight of disaster, enlightens the mood when someone dies and I'm the guy with jokes like hey how was that cancer treating you? I've never noticed but go on Yeah right You've never noticed this Well, go on with your thesis. What have you got to say? By the way before you do that... You're the aeronautic guy I thought 77 had like a two-man crew Yeah but it had 2 crews onboard Okay Are you sure? Yes So it had 4 pilots

33:46 Four airmen, four drivers. And when have we ever heard a report about anything? Ever in the history of all these reports that we talk about and we've done it for years they ever mention a pilot's name why would they do it now I don't know, the NTSB is taking the blame for it. They're saying... No no no that's changed! When did this change? It changed like just recently there was a blog post on SFGate where apparently here's how this story goes First they were like oh god what happened it was our screw up and they said because the NTSB doesn't give out names And so then they found an intern which to me is just the funniest part of the story Some guy unpaid intern and by the way if I was an intern and could pull this off

34:28 I'm gold for the rest of my life! John, John. I am looking at the NTSB website with a press release. Right, I know that...I'm telling you what...let me finish That's what is out there officially but now it turns out there is another round of this and the NTSB has now denying it and its not been put on their website yet but its been discussed in SFGate in a Phil Matera blog post saying that No! It's turning into a cover-up thing You watch how this devolves and people start pointing the finger at each other I think it makes more sense that some joker, here's the way it would go but there are still aspects that don't make sense because nobody cares about the pilot. So somebody calls the NTSB and they're at lunch because we're on West Coast time who knows? Some intern picks up the phone, hey Bill pick up the phone! Picks up the phone yeah hello Bill Meeker do you guys have a name of the pilots you can give us?

35:27 No, let me get back to you. I'll call you back Give me your number and they hang up this is my scenario And then the guy gets together with his buddies and they dream up because you can't ad-lib these names that quick no This is well done. This is well done. This is like bend over and yeah, it's Mike hunt yes see more butts Yeah exactly so they guys get together a group of these jokers that are getting paid nothing and they got nothing better to do. And so I'm gonna call, she's like yeah call her back! Call her back! Call her back! Do you think I should? I'm gonna get in trouble. Just do it!" So they call him back and they give them these bogus names that they eat up which is really the disturbing part about this no matter who's at fault The fact that someone would pick this call up write these names down give it to the Chiron guy give it to the writer doing the prompter material

36:20 amazing. Yeah, but that said at KTVU I will tell you we had a guy at Ziff Davis or the Tech TV Steve Porter who worked at KTVU and he says that Dennis Richmond who was the longtime anchor at KTVU once blew his stack because on the prompter there was a line left out at the end of one of the newscasts and Richmond apparently just went nuts because they didn't have this line to read. And the line was, good night I'm Dennis Richmond. Okay. It was left off the reads. Right right. Heads will roll so this displaces a bunch of readers and uh

37:04 Anyway, I still not as I still think it's from what I can tell it's still up in the air How this actually well? I think it's fantastic media hacking. I love that I find it really I find a deplorable that The the media is the news media in general is saying these are racial slurs no they're not It's not see more but it's not this thing all of this racial joke. It's not a racial joke Why can't anyone just say damn now was funny? Why can't- this is the cultural Marxism that we have devolved into, is that we can't even admit that everyone laughed or everyone every single person watches it. The China- the friggin' Chiners are looking at this! The Koreans they're going like pffft That was- that wa funny

37:49 You know, I saw the...I was looking at the comments on one of the places that posted it early and there was a Korean guy who chimed in. And he said something interesting because I've noticed this too He says most Koreans would think this is funny Yeah But wait! He says but i'm a Korean and I don't. I think its racist Oh screw you Why is it racist to make fun of someone's accent? Why is that racist? Why is that now all of a sudden racist. Why don't you ask around and have somebody tell ya, I don't particularly know why when I do like...I have this Indian accent I like to do. Race, racists. My argument is that is the number one way people speak English if you look at just straight up numbers and you take a British accent, Australian accent American accents these are all accents. No Ruffing! And then Indian accents. The Indian accent has the most. Yeah

38:44 There's more people that speak in that tone, that kind of funny way the Indians talk. And how is that racist? You're celebrating... We are celebrating diversity! We're celebrating diversity I may want to speak that way in the future. Yeah check this out. Don't laugh. Why you are laughing? Shut up! That's funny! It's funny! That's the Japanese culture management. Well, no. Jokes are... If a joke is funny to everyone I think it's probably not even a joke anymore A joke doesn't by definition have to

39:22 Put someone or something down Isn't that kind of how they were? No, you're for you. I'm I'm dismayed by that I really am dismayed and we can have no funny humor certainly in are you just this made or are you shocked and dismayed now? I'm different. So I'm not shocked than dismayed. I'm just a little bit smade Yeah Just a little dismay not to see you being dismayed. It's just it's a tiny however If the idea was to get more airtime for NTSB chairwoman Deborah Hirschman, I'm all for it. I love this woman! Is she hot or what? She is more telegenic than she is photogenic. Oh my god... Yeah true. Because I looked her up and she speaks great as a... But then I saw on TV oh yeah she's pretty nice looking. No she needs lighting and makeup for still photography but on television she's dynamite you look at her

40:15 Yeah, man I crashed that plane. Whatever you say goes! I crashed the plane it's my fault well just blame me as long as i can hang out with you more. By the way... I want to play one more clip because I think that the clip that should have gotten more play is the clip which was on the tarmac somebody on their cell phone I guess they were in the wreck or whatever but this got no play at all and its the No Ambulances Clip Play this trying to help people who had been ejected from the plane during the crash. We just got in a plane crash and there are a bunch of people who still need help, and there's not enough medics out here that can help There is a woman out her on the street...on the runway Who is pretty much burned very severely on their head And we don't know what to do No ambulance is on site for this plane crash

41:08 I heard this. By the way, they did bring an ambulance and ran over the woman. What are you complaining about? Oops sorry! I don't think that was that woman. I think they ran over a different woman Well they ran over somebody But what are you saying like there's not enough ambulances of course is not enough ambulances You're going to have a, but you'd think an airport if it has all these fire trucks. No! First of all... You would think that if they were yeah I know where are you gonna get the most guys sitting around because there's plane accidents happen what once every few years at any one Airport? Fire departments uh you know if you call the ambulance in most places the fire department is going to show up

41:55 It's not the hospital. Because your true 911, the true heroes who really come for no money and just come to help you? That's the fire department And they've got like our buddy Bad Chad out there in Colorado These are the guys who were doing the real work If you want the ambulance yeah well you better have your credit card ready What the hospitals going to dispatch an ambulance? No No, it's all grand. It's EMS. It's emergency medical services but it's really fire department. Yeah and they cost you a couple of grand. Yeah but so the every airport has fire services but their primary job is to take care of an emergency but you can't have... You just can't have like 100 ambulances running around? And who was this woman by the way that wasn't unclear to me Is she sitting in a plane calling 911 I mean where was she and she talked about the street or the runway? I think she probably one people who slid out

42:49 of the thing and she had her phone on her. And she called 911. It could be bullcrap, the whole thing could be a nonsense or I don't know. But for me it's like if i see someone with their head on fire You know, and I'm going to... Hey man this is an outrage. I'm hearing the plane crash! And uh..I need more ambulances where are my services? I need my services for my government is not servicing me! You know, I'd be like running over this lady see what I can do Well sure maybe you did that we don't know No we don't but What can we conclude from this whole episode of stupidity? I hope you have some conclusion because I don't other than it's just stupidity and I thought it was hilarious

43:29 I thought it was hilarious too, in fact the first time i saw but what the thing that still gets me is that it went through so many channels this is the problem. This is my conclusion is that we've become so kind of you know we're not...we're so disconnected especially the broadcast media and the newspaper people for that matter So disconnected that we can't report.. We can't just actually see reality I mean if you... this was the most obvious joke. You know, let's play the clip one more time and tell me if you could actually with a straight face read this copy? No, I can't play this again Come on!

44:08 Really? Yeah, don't you think it's funny enough to play again one more time then death and whether she was already dead when the truck hit her We have new information now also on the plane crash KTVU has just learned the names of the four pilots who were on board the flight They are captain some ting Wong we too low holy fook and bang dang out Come on Some more people the chiron guy must have known the chiron guy You know or gal it must have known you look at like all right, whatever they told me to write it on here I mean if I was the newsreader. I would be so steamed no rapping

44:57 No, she's happy she has the part-time gig on the weekends because you know She's shuttling around soccer boys all day. You know it's just exactly what she looks like I've seen her every so often And i think she's only on the weekends! I'm pretty sure So Adam Yes? Big news today before we get to our producer segment We gotta mention this Okay In The United States July 14th which I believe is today Yes? It's been branded National Macaroni and Cheese Day! No! According to the Wikipedia. Get out! What?! No... Go to, uh... Macaroni and Cheese. Oh this is no good if I had known this then i would have put together a whole celebratory clip. You slaves can get used to mac n' cheese. Mac n' cheese. Mac n' cheese. Macaroni and cheese. Shatter melt it together. Mac n' cheese. Mac n' cheese. Mac n' cheese.

45:53 Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand. Wow, what a day! Now this was documented supposedly... We could have done a whole special... I really wonder if somebody slipped this into the Wikipedia just for our benefit? And by the way, Dvorak's Law not allowed in the Wikipedia. Mac and Cheese Day no problem. Rock on boys yeah nothing wrong with that Supposedly the Wisconsin cheese talk page is referenced about this, but I see nothing on this page. And how are the French with this? The French of course celebrate Bastille Day today... Hello French listeners who never donate! Yeah and they never listen. That's okay Now they're out or done They gave up They won't be back until what August or September 1st They're on vacation

46:43 Yeah, they take a nice 90 day vacation or what? Yes. 45 day vacation it's not bad Okay so what's the history on this mac and cheese day national...it's the Wisconsin okay wisconsincheestalk.com let me see what Wisconsin hmmm Cheese industry anybody here it is blatant PR move Here it is National Macaroni & Cheese Day there's a little link in the tags And it says nothing. This is bold, but I thought it was worth mentioning. It's sad is what it is

47:19 In the morning John C. Dvorak in the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground feet in The air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there yes, and to our Human resources in the chat room their no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net to our artists Thank you very much for your undying support snow agenda art generator comm TJ skirata or see errata who I believe is a new artist to be used in the artwork. Thank you very much for episode 529er and as always looking forward to what will happen today with episode 530, as we choose it after the show

47:56 It's always funny to see the art that artists are trying to get in on time. Because of course, making art is not like oh the show is over let me whip something up in three seconds That's what they do! Yeah well that's...the best ones typically are that but um A lot of times you'll see people uh trying to anticipate what our topics will be yeah then you know we can generalize about that they're mostly wrong. Pretty much! But it's kind of interesting to look at because when we look at these, oh yeah I guess a lesser show would have discussed this mainstream media item. Yeah like Barack Obama eating broccoli

48:39 Yeah, yeah that's that's what we're all about I mean it's even dodged well. Well i think we did pretty well this is the first time We talked about the Zimmerman trial and we only really talked about in the context of The apathy of the slaves of America and I'm not talking about black people I'm talking about all people before you get nailed for that. People should be up in arms about being spied on 24-7 no Well, let's do our executive producers and then we'll get into that. Okay we have some executive producers to thank for this show 530 including an incredible two members of the 530 club This has not happened in months Months? Months I think years Mmm well months for sure perhaps a year The Black Baron of Silicon Valley came in with $530.33 Wow

49:28 And he says, in the morning Adam and John keep up the good work because this is one of the best ways to get news and not the agenda. And this is so nice The Black Baron of Silicon Valley because he's been donating nice amounts for weeks now Yeah he's definitely on a roll Thank you thank you so much Sundays are always tough and this really helps And then Edward Jacobs came in with $530 from Providence, Rhode Island. A good old Providence remember them? This is where my mom is from From the Sopranos They weren't from Providence No no but they'd go there to get the really talented hitmen My mom grew up in Providence My great-grandfather played for Pawtucket

50:10 Oh, yeah. He's actually my great-grandfather. The Pawtucket Roosters? I don't know if they're called the roosters but he was a pitcher and he had no hit run game and he had the last... Wait wait wait! You could have a No Hitter with a Run that's true you could walk him Yeah isn't that what it is called? No Hit No Run? No they are just called No Hitters Okay so I had No Hitter But also no one on base so no one had gotten on base at all period. Oh, that's a perfect game That's lot different. That's what I'm saying yeah So he had nothing it happened No, he had a perfect game never yet, but wait boy any seven straight outs Yes, but the very last ball, so its you know It's like he didn't have its three and no no when I'm getting to the story. I'm waiting You know what? So what is it? Its bottom of the ninth out of a nine out of my ninth

50:58 No one's on base. He's got two strikes, three balls right? So this is... Three and two count. Three and two. Yeah he throws an egg like a poo! And the batter true American just stood there didn't swing to give my great-grandfather the true record. Oh so I threw just a pitch down in the gut. Total girly pitch. He completely choked and the guy just went no I'm not gonna hit it I'm letting you have it

51:35 Oh, that's sweet. Isn't that a nice story? Yeah. Well I hope he kept the ball. So Edward Jacobs... Love your show! In fact if you bring this up because our local favorite pitcher around here Tim Lincecum just had a no-hitter. A regular one yesterday last night It is a big deal so nobody hits the ball. Love your show and he only walked two so he was only 2 walks away from a perfect game himself and threw 140 pitches I've listened to no agenda from move mature into the best podcast in the universe since 2009. Apparently we're not the best podcasts in the universe and what does mature mean? Means, we've gotten old yeah all right got it they would like to say thanks to Tony Cruz or cruise for turning me on to the show last time my don't it by the way everyone has somebody who turned him onto this show last time I donated Adam thought

52:33 Thinking my rehab was for drinking. What's your problem? But it was actually for both hips replacement you douche Use the douche thing, but that's what I'm thinking I've since fully recovered and Was released to return to work in early May only to find out there was a resource action aka layoffs no and No job to return to geez Well, the company paid me to leave so I'm sharing a percentage with you guys. $530. Does he need... Does he need job karma or something? He needs job karma and a little girl yay! Okay wow. Hey man, I'm sorry. I didn't mean- Cripple. Ah be quiet. Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs You've got Karma There ya go

53:25 And then we have Andrew Largeman, that's the name he goes by in Taipei City. $333.33 and we do have a note from him and I opened it up in the email and left on the other computer... I got it here! In the morning John and Adam here is the second installment of My Knighthood The goal is to earn my knighthood while I'm at age 33 Yes. Very good goal, I turn 34 in September so i'm just a couple of months away the show continues to be an outstanding product and the entertainment value you provide is second to none! I am constantly attracting sideways glances by bursting into laughter on the subway train or singing along to the jingles in the elevator seeing that I am from Taiwan and native speaker of Mandarin please give me a Huntsman Zaishangwu

54:16 Combo. Oh yeah, Huntsman and Zai Shang Wu combo. Thank you Bon Voyage to Adam and Mickey! Oh that's for our upcoming trip? Well absolutely here we go. I wonder if he sings along to the jingles as a Mandarin as well. You're just asking for it. I am, i'm really trying Sir Sizzalot in Toronto Canada $250 ITM bitches! I was listening while in the garden checking for Monsanto contaminated roses when you confirmed there will be no shows for a week Well that's not true We are going to run shows Yeah It just won't be live recorded actual shows They will...it will be fresh material

55:01 Right, I think. Right? No, I was thinking of rewriting one to that 225 shot at least Not that one again! Well we're currently thinking Hold on a second...I got an idea I already have some interviews in the can Well we have that but you know if we also could ask our producers to put together a compilation That could be..I find You know this is going to work right What no what do you mean? It's not gonna work, and they're gonna do nothing well it would be great because Well that we have know agenda CD comm and the guys doing it his boss is actually paying him to do this Maybe maybe we can do like two no agenda CDs Because they are there really they're good compilations of stuff And it's short little bits, and it's funny. It's funny stuff sometimes yeah anyway Yeah, your right. No one will do anything onward

55:55 I will be somewhere said and while i will be somewhere sunny during that time, I started to have a heart palpitation. Indeed! I may have suffered a mild stroke. If I need no agenda fixed that badly then you need my value for value which is 250 bucks soon-to-be baronet the Sismark Sir Sizzalot a sexy growls science karma please What is that Dr. Kiki? Is that what he means by sexy girl science? Yeah, yeah, okay? I don't know already Science and a karma of course oh um of course. I'm so sorry. What am I thinking you've got Karma how am i sounding by the way on the box today we did some more hacking on it you sound actually You sound a little

56:46 You're not as boomy, you actually sound better because it's a much more... It's funny you say that because that is what everyone is saying. They say it sounds more natural but do I still sound like I have big balls? Okay, it's I'm just trying to get you want to come with the right analysis. I know what you're saying But the big balls most of them you were getting from the from the you weren't getting natural big balls Right right rolls from the Big Bottle compression yeah Yes correct over compressing like your balls in a vice Yeah mm-hmm and so that's good. I think it's a better sound because it's I think it's cleaner Wow that's great Thank you okay good

57:29 nice not Chris Taylor in Raleigh North Carolina um 250 Chris Taylor from Raleigh NC donating to help from a pro mate promote promote the best podcast in the universe keep up the good work and one slave at a time will win this fight there's a fight I don't know what are we fighting for I don't know what do you find for for Don Lemon and I'm fighting for him good for you tell me someone's got a fight for Joe China What was that? Oh Jesus Christ. Oh great, you gesticulated and all of a sudden all the gear went flying. Well let me just read away because I'll assume this is still being recorded Peter McConnell $202.20 in Suzhou China or China as he puts it greeting us from Suzhou. Shit John hold on a second. Do you have to stop the recording? All right and we're back and actually ran upstairs to get the soldering iron

58:33 Like I might as well do this right, but um also have little clip wire So i'm able to you know. I got they got the clip wires on it so it should be okay until the rest of the show wow that was now let's just don't Do that in Holland no lip? But let's just retrace the steps I was saying how great this is and then two seconds later It literally like jumps off the table onto the floor and all by shadows and shatters What what is that saying oh? It's saying that you didn't do the Sanco de Mayo. Thank you, I told you, Sanco De Mayo. Sure. Alright where were we? So in other words what you did... Here is how superstition works

59:14 Since you didn't get the Sanco de Mayo in, you have been subconsciously scheming to sabotage the show. Yes! To prove your point And I specifically wanted to really hurt the thing that I've been working on that I cherish most Yeah That is fragile This is like... this is the same thing Everyone does it by the way and I'll point this out It's like You signed yourself up for something and don't want to go do it And then somehow you lose your keys. You can't find them anywhere and then you find them there on a shelf in the kitchen cupboard because you put them there thinking, oh I'll remember I'll put them next to the peanut butter because i'll remember where my keys are this is who else that's easy to remember

1:00:03 And then you never find them and you miss the meeting. You're so right, and... Yeah that's what you did! It's insane why do we do these things? By the way the chat room right now is very funny That's unusual They are very funny about The Ultimate Podcast Device being able to survive at Asiana Landing at SFO I like that Alright, so where have we done Chris Taylor? And by the way the one guy who turns out to be the intern's name.

1:00:39 which turns out that the joke was he was Chinese. No! Yeah, some young guy. You should have gotten to it quicker just hammer it in I forgot all about it yeah this is a joke I worked on last night. You should have coordinated with me so we really could have made it suck Peter McConnell again 202 dollars and 20 cents in Suzhou China Greetings from Suzhou, China. Hey 8888 for June plus 9999 for July plus 1333 for the magic Number two point two toward my knighthood to 20 22 is coincidentally also the year when after five years of worldwide drone warfare The meta preppers and hoarders shall inherit the bombed-out charred remains of the planet and begin constructing a utopian society where ham radios uses as a primary means of communication. Yeah

1:01:29 Chin up gentlemen summer donations may be slow, but you can always look forward to 2022 when your ship finally comes in also I haven't been able to determine exactly when to observe this holiday But national macaroni and cheese day they falls either on the 7th or the 14th We've talked about that better late than never. I say so When can we hear the jingles an observation of this glorious day as always thanks for the stellar deconstruction? The last shows have been outstanding mm-hmm Ed, thank you very much Peter. And Suzhou is the Venice... Is it the Paris of China? It's the Venice of China! Okay. Ed LeBoutier in Hesperia California $200

1:02:22 Here's a little something from beautiful Hesperia Nuts, California land of the dog-sized squirrel. Squirrel! Shoot them things keep up with the great work pronounce Ed La Booty. Booty A. Ed La Booty A. Last associate exec for today. Yes is if I gotta find his note, which obviously moved there it is last associate exec for today's show five three zeros Ben C Parts unknown $200 use a note and he uses Ben see on the notes So that's why assume you once in the morning to you both I've been listening to no agenda during my daily commute for a while now and I finally decided that it's time that I leave my status of a boner behind and make it

1:03:10 Official with a donation. It's not much, but please accept it along with my gratitude for doing such a great digesting...a great job of digesting current events and trying to make sense of the lunacy around this. I have indigestion from all that digesting! If you guys still interested in stories of hysteria in the school system then I have a contribution to add so here we go Oh nice My mother is a seventh grade teacher in this small Illinois town that I grew up She was telling me about the bomb scare in the school a couple months ago. She said that a fellow teacher came into his classroom in the morning and found a note on his desk after reading it he called the principal saying, He had received a bomb threat!

1:03:50 The principal called the police who then instructed the principal to have the teachers examine their rooms and see if they could find anything It looked like a bomb It wasn't until the police arrived sometime later that they moved students to the gym across the street Standard bomb threat procedure by the way, of course I don't wait no No Aren't they supposed to move them into the corner of the room and tell him to cower reading the note? No bomb was found And the students were sent home for the day Later my mom saw the note. She said it was a cartoon, a fifth grader had drawn showing a Wile E Coyote-esque bomb blowing up with the stick figures arms and legs flying everywhere Being a fifth grade boy myself at one time I was not surprised by all of it What's more the janitor found on the floor the night before and without looking at it casually threw it on the teacher's desk because he was too lazy to throw into trash

1:04:43 Either my mother nor I could believe how stupid the whole situation was. That's great. Thank you, Ben I think that standard procedure for bomb threat should be sit in the corner and cower just in case it blows up apparently on the east coast So I want to thank all these executive producers and associate executive producers for show 530 We really appreciate the help and go to noagendanation.com No agendashow.com click on the donate button or go to devorek.org slash a or channel of our I do have two quick PR mentions that i'd like to throw in here. One is from our producer in New Mexico, Jeffrey Tuhig and he has made up, he sent me one those bracelets you know the rubber band bracelets

1:05:33 You know the kind that have like the... Yeah, yeah. The ones that were popularized by the bicycle guy. Yes! Lance the Bicycle Guy And they're really cool They are grey and it says don't drone me bro Oh cool It has noagendashow.com Nice I think he's gonna...I'm not quite sure what he is going to do but he has some scheme And he's like, hey check these out. I have a scheme. Let me see send me one. I'll wear it Yeah of course Mickey actually is Mickey Nelly wears it she puts on water bottles and here It is we have the first batch of bracelets. I would like to see these on some members of Congress ah okay? Oh yeah He has a scheme well you know John F Kerry wears all kinds of bracelets He's got all kinds of stuff in his right arm so you know what our producers never cease to amaze me

1:06:22 So I'm not gonna say that can't happen. Then we have a note here from... Send one to Al Franken Yeah Michael Johnson in the morning, Adam, I heard you and John talking about satellites picking up microwave signals given off by towers from space He says it's very... Who is this again? Michael Johnson You're not going to read this guy's note! You haven't seen this guy's note This is not, this is... you haven't seen this guy's notes. So what are you talking about? He has a different note than the one that he's... You have not... ...he's gonna get you the Motorola equipment? No! Oh okay go on Am I going to get Motorola equipment?! No! Go on! No! Uh, uhhhh....this is okay sooo Talking about the satellites picking up microwave signals given off by- That would be whoreish of me John What are you talking about? No no, this is, this is a PR segment

1:07:14 It's very doable. In fact, you as a ham can try a similar experiment communicating with your own spacecraft in space if you back the pocket spacecraft mission to moon Kickstarter So this guy what is the name of it? Pocket spacecraft mission to the moon. Pockets? It's great! He has a kickstarter? Yeah, and he is raising money I think he is going to complete. He is not going to complete it... Yes he is yeah I think he is The idea is they have these little thin wafers and its gonna go up in a commercial rocket and the satellite shoots out then the wafers are gonna poop out And he says that we could actually have a no agenda space saucer

1:08:00 that we could all track then on the web. Ooh! Yeah, I think this is a good idea. I like this a lot And so I said this is without a doubt the most shameless plug of the day. Yeah, it's pretty shameless but this was him so he needs two hundred and ninety thousand pounds. It is a lot of money yeah British yeah So that's like lots and he's got 33 so far He's got 236 backers now in his a big-money guy. Yeah, he's a big guy Paul Allen call Elon Musk Elon Musk would want to run it up in one of his planes. Yeah, well that's fine. One of his rockets! Yeah, Elon Musk... don't get me started on that guy Anyway thank you all so very much Reminder that we do this twice a week We'll be here on Thursday once again with the live show Hopefully with live audio That all depends on what happens And to support the program With your kind and generous donations To borac.org slash N-A And of course we always need you to go out there and propagate our formula

1:09:01 Our formula is this we go out. We hit people in the mouth I don't know if I should be upset or not that you actually thought I would Like do something to get free stuff and promote it on the show You were do really? I would never do anything like that Yeah, you would but do you think I would do with that That's really that I mean I was certainly wouldn't do it just for myself I mean, I'd slip make sure you'd be on the same game. I try to get your stuff all the time Okay Sorry

1:09:47 I do. Yeah, yeah, you know how much free stuff i've gotten recently? No nothing zip! I'm blackballed maybe it's because you take the junkets for car companies and then don't blog about it Maybe by the way outstanding PC magazine article which one The one about you can't trust Microsoft oh yeah hilarious build enough to do that one hilarious and what do you think of the thesis Well, there's a couple things and this is based upon the latest article from Glenn Greenwald who I have no respect for. You cannot... You're losing respect by the day! Yeah you cannot publish this without publishing the source material he could be talking out of his ass and if you look at his Twitter feed which i've kind of little obsession for me now He's like what? If you don't trust us that we have the documents then how could even trust what we posted Like what are you six

1:10:47 Okay, we need to talk about this then. Six... seven? No I think he's six and Twitter is the playground of the universe Well i'm not going to argue that So there are a couple things I got a couple clips you might as well play because it still brings up the bullcrap that we've debunked with the actual source material which is annoying because nobody else seems to care except this show and I'm talking about the fake landing of the Bolivian guy. Don't make me play it again, please! No, not gonna play that. I don't even have it on the clip list if you notice but let's listen

1:11:24 Oh Glenn, you know he's somehow and you know he's on everything. He's just on everything and now he sounds like the... You know what? He sounds like the spokeshole for Snowden! Yes! So he's like the Snowdens... He's like Carney for Snowden And so he's now on this Chris Hayes, you ever watch this guy? With the glasses. Yeah who is a fast talker he has obviously been trained how to speak by Rachel Maddow which means talk as fast as you can I think Chris, I think he is Rachel Maddow doesn't she go back and change and become him? I wouldn't be surprised but except for the fact that this Chris Hayes' married

1:12:03 There's no conflict of interest here but he was married to this woman who was with the Obama administration as a counsel for Barack himself until last month. Yes! No, you say it ain't so... So we have Greenwald, the first clip which has the bogus crap in it. Greenwald on R.M., Rachel Maddow clone show is what I called it. The reason is because his ability to get to the countries where he's seeking asylum and hopes to receive asylum has been thwarted by the willingness of United States government physically, to block him from being able to get there. They revoked his passport which prevents them from traveling. Wrong! Yeah okay right let's just stop for one second

1:13:05 uh... we have read directly from the state department's website it does not prevent you from traveling whatsoever the only thing it does is when you re-entered united states and you'll have a big flag in the computer which means you'll be taken aside and you will not be permitted to entry into the country as a given that's all you had your passport taken away yes but it's it explicitly excess two things explicit implicitly explicitly says No one's passport can be revoked if their whereabouts is unknown. It specifically says that yes, and two it says It's not a problem to travel on a revoked passport because not everyone is tied into the American Gestapo So that's wrong so I'm green wrong wrong wrong hold on Glenn Glenn

1:13:54 Wrong. ...world that they will physically impede an airplane, which they did with the jet carrying the Bolivian president... Okay wrong! Wrong no he asked to land with a bull crap excuse that he couldn't read his fuel gauges on the 47 million dollar Falcon. The forty seven million dollar Falcon Jet and oh it's funny you know I was talking to a Russian friend uh the other day and he left St. Petersburg when he was 8, and we were just talking I said oh interesting so did you go to Germany for asylum or Poland? He said no Do you know what the typical route is for most people leaving Russia to get into Europe to ask for asylum Austria

1:14:46 That's interesting. That's odd, right? They mistakenly thought how to Edward Snowden on it and they put pressure on all the countries that could be possible refueling stops in order for him to get there and that's why the ACLU and Amnesty are both warning that what the Obama administration is doing is threatening... Hold on a second What because this is what I dug into this for a second. Let me just go back What were the organizations he said let's just listen again That's why the ACLU and amnesty are both warning the ACLU and he says Amnesty yeah, just amnesty Just amnesty and I want to talk about this bullcrap in a minute that what the Obama administration is doing is threatening There's very well recognized right of asylum There's simply no way for him to get out at the moment And that's why he sought the help of these human rights organizations so

1:15:33 One concern I think a lot of people watching this have and I- I- It was one concern I had! Will actually count myself among that as someone who is happy to know the things I know because of Edward Snowden, happy to have information. Think that's information is crucial. If you're happy in your Snowden clap your hands What was he saying? And now, I... He talks too fast. And then now is going to do take the Obama's... He has to because his wife works for Obama or died. He has now been, it's unclear to me with how much autonomy this man could possibly be acting. I mean we know the nature of Vladimir Putin We know the nature of the Russian state at this moment In fact any state if the Russian version of Edward Snowden showed up in a Miami International Airport The CIA would be there the next day

1:16:21 So it doesn't seem ridiculous to me to assume at this point that those 10,000 files that he has with him that he brought you to screen with rigor and clarity are now in the hands conceivably of Russian intelligence. And that doesn't seem like the best way for this to have gone. These people read too many books! Let's go over what we've brought up on the show before I mention again before going into another analysis which is Does anybody honestly believe that the Russians don't have all this stuff already? All this information that they've been running prism and slideshow. And by the way, I want to ask you something about this because they released some more slides. Here's the question who are these slides for who was supposed to be viewing this slide show? These are sales... The way i see it uh these are partially sales job

1:17:18 Totally. And they're bragging, oh look what we've got all these guys in our pocket! Yeah It seems like a bunch of bragging slides Look at what we did! Yeah it's like office party slides Yeah, you know we have a Friday drink and we'll talk about our accomplishments before we head out for the weekend. Get that guy to do a deck for us! Deck? Do a deck for us! And I do want to point out that The Guardian by their own admission on The Charlie Rose Show the editors went to the White House went to DNI went to the CIA went to the NSA and said here's what were going to publish are there any national security concerns and they went no...no

1:18:00 So just like the Trayvon Martin Zimmerman thing, this is all conditioning us. And I don't know if it's even a grand scheme... well Brzezinski clearly is behind all of it and Kissinger But it seems all to me like a beta test, you know. It's like what are they gonna say here? Okay No, they're okay. Are they gonna riot now? No, okay You know just that's what it feels like actually like you and me about the riots Yeah This is going on at one of these one of the offices did not the public is gonna react Adversely if they ever found out Oh bull crap I'll bet your doll don't care. No. No, I think the actual conversation They're having is now betcha Dvorak tries to welch on the bit

1:18:43 Let me allow me to interlude in your three clips with a little backgrounder on what actually happened because these are the things that That interest me and I think most no agenda producers are getting used to finding out this information for themselves So here's spokeshole Carney. We have communicated it to variety of countries including Russia and so it's no different than it was and and I would simply say the providing a propaganda platform for Mr. Snowden very nice listen to the words now providing a propaganda platform, and I agree! I mean what is needed to ask for asylum as one thing? To do a press conference in the airport? Okay... runs counter to the Russian government's previous declarations of Russia's neutrality and that they have uh... and that they have no control over his presence

1:19:36 It's also incompatible with Russian assurances that they do not want Mr. Snowden to further damage U.S. interests, but having said that... Wait for it! You know our position also remains that we don't believe this should and we don't want it to do harm to our important relationship with Russia and we continue to discuss with Russia Our strongly held view that there is absolute legal justification for him to be expelled. Expelled? For him to be returned to the United States, to face the charges that have been brought against him for the unauthorized leaking of classified information Okay I just want you know that there is authorized leaking and unauthorized leaking apparently because thats what the spokes hole was saying right there, unauthorized leaking

1:20:28 So we see Snowden doing a press conference at the Moscow... That's very interesting you caught that. Oh yeah, I just wanted to see if you're awake? So he said unauthorized leaking so this is that implies authorized leaking yes which is stuff that my administration has been doing consistently. Charges that have been brought against him for the unauthorized leaking of classified information. Unauthorized leaking! So who was with our friend Snowden there at the airport well two women Hotties yeah, Sarah Harrison. We've been tracking her Sarah Harrison She is the woman from WikiLeaks she as far as we know Is probably Julian Assange's lover a song J? The one that I liked the most though was the the one on the right Tanya Locke Sheena and she is from one of my favorite organizations human rights watch which is a complete shill front complete

1:21:26 In fact, it's a front the... and when I say front, I mean for the CIA. It was the Human Rights Watch organization that actually approved of these CIA secret renditions and I put a couple links in the show notes so you can go back and look at that even though one of the articles I had to get from archive.org because it had been scrubbed from the interwebs, but it literally quite clearly says that Human Rights Watch said well you know at least we know that these guys are going to a place that is you know that weird that we're managing and not some godforsaken hole. So they're all on board with anything the CIA does and now this falls under the amnesty banner just plain old amnesty You can say whatever you want And no one questions this

1:22:20 No one questions who are these women and why are they there? And why are they there with you and who was backing this and go look at human or Human Rights Watch great name Great name, but it's a front and she runs the Moscow office. Hello Hello I mean, come on! Yeah. It's getting pretty funny. Well it's hilarious to me but you know... No wonder people come to us to listen no wonder. How can you? I know that people hear these things

1:22:59 It registers I mean all human beings your brains are really doing work, and they're really smart And and I know that maybe you didn't hear this particular clip But if your brain heard the clip unauthorized leaking your brain is going hey What's going on here? And it tickles at you for a while. You know and then it takes finally goes away Yeah, but it does bother you in there, but if we got this show our show yeah And well we do as we take then we poke it yes Yeah, say hey you there was a reason that you were acting like you're acting weird. You'll right? Yes the reason yeah This is why exactly and then you go oh my god They're trying to fool me Here's a human rights watch page HRW. I was waiting for you to get through it. And the front thing they got up, the flash pop-up of the two women sitting there with Snowden in the middle looking over at her notes which i believe is that blue card Wait let me see That Letterman uses What are you going to talk about next? I don't know let's see what do we have on the agenda

1:23:59 She's looking at an agenda. You got a flash pop-up? I don't have a pop up, what did you get that from? It says Human Rights Watch meets with Snowden sign up for breaking news here and it said... Oh! It popped up for me now too there we go. There ya'go. Its copyright 2013 by Tanya Lakshina Human Rights Watch Now she didn't take this picture why is she taking the copyright? But look at the girl in the background Look at Sarah She's hot man come on Come on And she came from nowhere she was an intern She's probably the one who wrote those names on the Asiana flight pilots list. I looked her up actually for you, hold on a second let me tell ya... Look at this video! You see this Tanya Larkshina is that the same one? Yeah it looks completely different doesn't she? She has a redhead this is typical of a spy!

1:24:52 Late 2009, Harrison was an eager 27-year old applying for an unpaid internship. A graduate of a prestigious boarding school with ambitions to become a journalist! Harrison had no prior experience but McHaden said he saw spark that led him to bring her on board. Yeah, spark between his legs probably... Hey is this how it goes? Hey John and we've done this What do you think of that girl? Should we hire her?" Yeah, yeah. Are you kidding me?! That'll brighten up everyone's day! And I'm saying... Actually in an office environment it does. Of course it does but you can never admit this because you go to jail

1:25:31 Well, in California especially. Harrison had no prior experience but McFadden saw the spark to bring her on board a break that would set her on the path to meet Assange and eventually bring her into the whistleblower website's inner circle Oh brother! It was an intelligent choice to send her to Snowdon McFadden said She's smart, determined and fully believes in the moral principle of shedding light. This is something she has strong feelings about." After being recommended by McFadden Harrison began working with WikiLeaks in August 2010 on the internal vetting of confidential US documents supplied by Army Private First Class Bradley Manning which the site later released No they gave it to newspapers

1:26:16 At some point that year, according to two people with direct knowledge of the situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity... Wow! It's the WikiLeakers inside The Leakers. Wow! Harrison and Assange became intimately involved. They cautioned that the relationship was not Harrison's prime motivation in championing the WikiLeaks cause." She is firmly committed to what WikiLeaks is trying to do, she believes 100% in the mission! One of the people said, any suggestion her relationship with Julian is what has compelled her to do things she has done would be totally wrong assumption. Well no I'm not saying that at all...I am just saying it kind of funny

1:26:55 Yeah, you deserve to be scrutinized when you're screwing with the boss. No doubt! It would seem so... So she gets the gig to go to Moscow it's all funny and remember when our president said hey I'm not gonna call Putin over this we called Putin this week because he you know look at what's happening So this is all very fun and fun and games, and you hear Carney talking about well we've got long standing relationship. We don't really want to mess that up but let's just look at the reality of the situation I put this in the show notes if you can Google it if you look at the Joint C 2013 drill

1:27:40 Which is the Chinese and Russian naval exercise. This thing was huge! Did you see a picture? And they're firing live rounds, they've got jets, they've got drones They've got battleships I mean this is not minor what went on here but along with that and we know that there were Russians in the Chinese did a big deal for oil Gazprom just got all the Kyrgyzstan oil and gas, Kyrgyzstan Gas I'm sorry for one dollar. Hey! I could have given it a buck fifty. Now if you look at the map go ahead John let's do this together because it's kind of fun everybody listening on the stream go to maps.Google.com that's them the easiest one

1:28:34 and type in Kyrgstan which is k-y-r-g-y-z stan. K-Y-R-G-Y-Z stan. Okay, right Now this is, now normally we'd be looking to the left. Just north of Tajikistan and... What is to the south east there? It's China isn't it? Yeah! You can't get a shorter route into China Well it IS China Yes! You just step across the border you're in China So this is, and China is of course This is what its always been about This is what the Trans, the TAPI pipeline is about

1:29:21 You know to go from Iraq, Iran Afghanistan Pakistan then through what is in between Burma Just got a cool place in China. This is the north of Tibet this has gotta be like one of the more interesting places to wander I'll bet you up there, they've got one of those Star Wars or Star Trek bars You know where they had all these crazy wacky... Yeah, where it's very fashioned after All those crazy hats and chicks with six breasts and stuff? I'm telling ya that's what is like up there So this is the real deal! This is what really matters

1:30:02 None of this other stuff. It doesn't matter one bit, this is the real deal because you know the Pentagon is our natural resource extraction unit of the elites of the United States of Gitmo Nation and of Britain and France and all the companies that need that stuff to enslave us And I think, I have to say we're on the losing end right now. We're not doing... Our president if you want to be mad at anything He's doing a crappy job! He is doing really really bad job and he is out golfing You know this does not show confidence. You can't..we got our guys out golfing and the other guy has his shirt off hanging out with tigers

1:30:41 Right, and they got Snowden doing press conferences in the Moscow airport and they can't do anything about it. With hot chicks! And those two chicks are obviously bodyguards... Yes! Handler-bodyguards obviously. Look at the arms on that girl Yeah well he probably knows some moves Oh yeah. That's the real game and that is what is being obfuscated by all this other stuff but I think its pretty funny I'm all for it. Alright, well let's play clip 2 as we go along the way with Glenn Greenwald on the... Can i ask you a question? Yes! At this point do you feel that Grenn... Grenn Greenvald? Renn Greenwald. Renn Greenwald. Do you think that Renn is compromised? You know, I actually don't think he's compromised. I think he has just kind of gone off the rails on his own. Well here's a possibility

1:31:37 Perhaps he's just really gotten caught up in his 15 minutes. Well, he's definitely pushing his luck with the 15 minutes He is way over time Hey buddy get off the stage! It's like a guy comes out to do five minutes on a stand-up open mic and won't get off the stage Grenn Riemwalt your 5 minute are up Alright, can we go with clip two? Yeah. I think what you just described is exactly what you called it which is an assumption and I would add It's a very speculative assumption one for which there's no evidence And I think that runs counter to the evidence that we know Remember this is a person who threw away his entire life as he said in the beginning of that statement That you just played threw away his entire life

1:32:22 Seems to be alive if you ask me. Oh, I think he's talking about his one-room apartment working for one of these agencies as a contractor with no health benefits and a girlfriend that he apparently didn't... I don't know, i'm thinking his life got an upgrade if you ask me. Oh yeah no he's big star now that doesn't get killed He had a girlfriend, long time girlfriend A family who loves him, I get emails from them all the time asking to pass on best wishes and love to him Wait a minute! What is this? Did you notice that too huh? Yeah

1:32:59 What is he now the goat? He's just like one of these criminal attorneys that keeps passing messages back and forth between the mob and the guy that's indicted. And remember we have Bruce Fine, the lawyer lurking in the background it's about time for him to make another appearance If you play that thing again I believe there is code in there Let me check it out hold on Let me roll it back a few. He had a girlfriend, a long time girlfriend, a family who loves him I get emails from them all the time asking me to pass on best wishes and love to him Yeah, your message is your family loves you which is code for you know The Family Hello The Family John CIA... No I'm getting it. The family loves you. Very funny yeah.

1:33:44 Don't you think? Could be. It could be just that simple. He had a very stable career, a lucrative job and he threw it away because he wanted not to destroy the United States or harm the United States which he could easily have done by selling information but to provoke a debate and he was willing to sacrifice all of his interests including his freedom in order to have that so the idea that he would then suddenly start turning over secrets to Russia or China which he could've done early on and gotten a lot of money for it... Gotten a lot of money. Really? Ren Greenwald, what book you reading? Is it called... He's obviously reading too much Le Carre. What is so... Le Carre hold on reference I don't understand One of the spy novelists. I thought it was like the Lars Erikson guy or whatever

1:34:31 So he's like now, he sounds exactly like the publicist for the guy right? If you're talking to her. No she can't talk right now let me... She is just recuperating from her... she sprained her ankle in a basketball game Yes and let me tell you I mean seriously she could be doing anything she wants right now but know she decided to give it all up for you For your entertainment people so please back off a little bit Are we talking Lady Gaga or uh... I have another minute on this thing. Can we continue? They're all the same, yep. I love it! Wait, I mean yeah-yeah I find the whole thing fascinating No i love it, I love it It's great This is condensed This is great But it's very impossible to me especially since- B-B-B-B-B-But I'm Rachel Maddow B-B-B-B-B-B

1:35:15 and gotten a lot of money for it. It's very impossible to me, especially since I've been in contact with him over the past week and he is very clear about the fact that he is free to leave Russia at any time that the only barrier in his way is the United States. And you think that's true? You do not think... Has he talked to you about... the nature of Edward Snowden. I'm talking about the nature of the Russian state and Vladimir Putin who spent his whole life in the KGB, and like you know doesn't necessarily play patty cake when this stuff is on the table so your saying that they... What is this reference? I have no idea! He's gone off the rails Hello 1950 we'd like our analogy back he just has not had interactions with russian intelligence I think there are a lot of different factors You know when I hear this

1:36:02 And we have to be so careful because you get caught up in easy terms like amnesty is all over it. They're taking care of, like amnesty's some magical organization from God that comes down and has no financial interests or backing from anybody or human rights watch. Yes, well are my human rights and now it's Russian intelligence. What do you know about Russian intelligence? You idiot I'd play besides the fact that the Russian government would like to get this hand their hands on this information It's the same thing with China, you know The New York Times basically made up the claim which they phrased in terms of this might have happened that the Chinese government

1:36:38 government changed his laptop, something that he insisted didn't happen. That and all the things I saw when i was in Hong Kong with him simply didn't happen because there's a lot of different considerations that the Chinese had including wanting him gone so that they didn't complicate the relationship with the world. And it is possible Russia would like to see him gone as well. So, here's another thing that is kind of interesting. If the Russians wanted to grab... if you listen to part one, you heard it and I think he indicates it again Greenwald supposedly at least the way he seems to tell this story has all this stuff

1:37:17 Yeah, he should be arrested on the spot. He should either be arrested on the spot or that... Why would the Russians want to go through to this Snowden guy? Greenwald's hanging out in Brazil which is wide open if you want to just go over to somebody's building and club them and then take their stuff it would be a lot easier for me to get to Club Glenn Greenwald leave him in a pool of blood and steal his material which is the same thing supposedly I don't believe any of this no And perhaps it's all the whole, I'm going to go back to my original premise. Glenn Greenwald and the Freedom of the Press Foundation and all these people and Leni Rufin-style lawyer Lori Poitras and the tour guy and WikiLeaks It's all a big show half of them have no idea what they're doing They're just so horny to get clearance

1:38:10 Or some other kind of perceived benefit because that's how it works in a police state. Oh, I have clearance now Oh yes, I'm special or I get invited to something You know you would yeah can meet a politician or whatever so half of them are just ignorant people because people get Manipulated all the time but there are a few John Perry Barlow looking at you who know the score and our are in their Handling the situation and it's a setup To me this you're so right if this guy has all this documentation Then yeah, and if Russia or China wants it just go down there like hey. Hey Gran Green Rock a club you Very simple hey Glenn what's that? Let me take the zip drive how do you think in this you know how did you think greenwald would react to a 45 pushed up against his temple

1:39:00 somebody's saying we want that stuff that Snowden gave you and what's Greenwald gonna do say no or hub why don't you have to shoot me yeah well you can go right to the Washington Post they apparently have the documents yes or why don't we go why don't we go to the monthly meeting of the freedom for the plus but press foundation They all seem to have it. They all seem... Zeni Jardim, let's go grab her she probably has it Sounds like everyone has a copy Except us! Except the Chinese Yeah the Chinese and the Russians The Russian intelligence they got nothing No idea no And and its this simplicity This is thank you John this is exactly the simplicity that you have to take it too for for everyone understand what kind of BS this really is It is total bullcrap Total

1:39:47 It's all, it's like a...it's kind of like the Zimmerman trial. You know if we had sat down to write it we would have probably come up with something similar you know with the...you know it's got everything in there remember we had court TV and for a reason this is what people want this is this is you know this is it hits all of our buttons we've been conditioned to like this We really do, its beautiful And the sad thing is that we have a large contingent of people who are living online and who have grown up online, and work in technology and understand much better how this works than older generation. And they're all in on the he's my hero but it is a false prophet you see

1:40:39 I'm not arguing about any of that. We've got the third clip we can listen to, and this is all kind of semi-scripted because it ends right on time when just in time for their commercial break and were out here quickly there's a scoop you had yesterday about the NSA and Microsoft working together what do you think the significance other I read it and it seemed to me that though the most charitable interpretation possible is that they are creating the technical capability to be able to in the future execute lawful kind of searches for items they want. What do you think is worrisome about that scoop? The Silicon Valley companies have continuously said that they only do the bare minimum the law requires to work with the NSA. And what this shows is just constant collaboration inclusion on the part of Microsoft, to build systems to allow all sorts of access to Skype, to Outlook, to these cloud systems way beyond what the law requires and the idea that they need a warrant in each individual case is untrue They only need a warrant when their targeting American citizens not when there scooping up behind communications including ones involving Americans

1:41:41 Glenn Greenwald from The Guardian. Thanks so much, appreciate it. Glenn Greenwald's latest which of course is being propagated now by Reuters predominantly, is here we go Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald said in an interview published Saturday that the US should be quote on its knees begging that nothing bad happens to NSA leaker Edward Snowden because the information that would then be revealed would be the country's worst nightmare. Okay, so now these are words... And by the way yeah go on because I'm gonna... Go ahead now say it say it Well I'm just saying this seems like an overt threat from Glenn Greenwald and why would he know this? For me John this discredits him as an unbiased journalist This is not how a journalist works

1:42:43 No. I agree with that 100%. This is something I would say! If all of that is true, why doesn't he turn it into a story not just through some interview? The stories have stopped and its all about Glenn Greenwald being interviewed. He's going to blow it into WikiLeaks if anything happens. If he gets killed... It's got a dead man switch working for him. Yeah, he has copies all around the world Exactly. Okay, so what are the results here? Now... And by the way let's back up the truck for a second and remind people what you said earlier which is that if you took this entire package and they showed it to the intelligence agencies and they say we got no problem how does this even make sense what you just said okay in other words yeah it's gonna destroy the country. Worst nightmare

1:43:39 It's all contradictory. But what do we have now? We have the following, we have a media shield law being set up Which is partially because of well, it's all it's very related. It's all in It's all interrelated because we have the spying on journalists and with now We know how they do it and we have all the information so-called information And you know, so this is all thank you Thank You very much miss mr. Snowden So we have a media shield law coming which is is literally meant to obfuscate All kinds of stuff under the banner of not show now secure it seek see rights

1:44:15 Right? We have the Silicon Valley companies are now, I mean because Glenn Greenwald is a hitman. With his piece where he accuses Microsoft of aiding and abetting and being a fascist organization with the government this is a direct accusation by him not using the fascist word but the definition of what he described as fascism by accusing them without showing any source documentation, without showing the documents. So he says he has it from an internal NSA bulletin board but he can't show that or he won't show it... Well if you're talking about why doesn't he show it? That makes no sense! It's like Eugene McCarthy, not Eugene, but the McCarthy character in the 50s holding blank sheets of paper up telling about all the communists that are in government But let me show you how this works because

1:45:12 And I've known you long enough that you're, that i know that you're not in the cabal. Because man... You would definitely have better clothes! Hey!!! You are not in the cabal but what happens is Gren Greenwald threatens Microsoft by saying you guys are complicit. You already doing this, Skype it's all in there everything you're letting them in your suck your horrible and what happens? You get true journalists like John C. Dvorak writing an article saying why would you trust Microsoft? You should throw him out so now Microsoft believe me there's talk going on they're like okay What do you want us to do we give up this is how the government before you finish that thought

1:45:55 The first thing I thought of when i heard this thing was how much in the way of donations did Microsoft give to the Obama campaign? Nothing. Boom! There it is. Yeah, yeah hey you sound like a rapper So that's part of it. That's why they go first, but they're gonna do this with everybody They're gonna do it with Google. They're gonna do it with Apple. They're gonna do it with every single company its leverage It's like oh hold on a second you don't want to play ball You want you? Oh you want to try and be transparent uh-uh no way what are you going to do is you can play ball by our rules otherwise we are going to make you look like your total a whole shill and We're gonna make Dvorak right about it

1:46:35 Well, my writing was not about what Greenwald talked about. My writing was the simple fact that Microsoft which is always known to have a backdoor but no one's ever proven it. Essentially they closed that door of doubt and it just doesn't make sense to me whether this what Greenwald is doing, his hitman work or not... It just doesn't make sense to me that someone in a foreign government would trust Microsoft even if it wasn't true! But why would you take a chance? You don't take a chance I mean that's right. But can we agree that you probably would not have written this article at this moment without the Greenwald story? I won't agree with that because actually had planned that article over a week ago. But, in this time period... Oh, do you mean to go to overall green wall? Yeah! Absolutely not it wouldn't make any sense Exactly So i think its fair and your obviously look you wouldn't be doing this show if you could make some real money working for these A-holes

1:47:38 So obviously you're not part of it, but that's how it works. That's exactly how it works! You get this going and now Microsoft is... they are hostage! They are held hostage no doubt! And Glenn Greenwald is out there and he's the hitman And they've got the goods on him too. I don't know what it is they've got on him because he's not doing it right, we both agree that at the very least you're like, I gotta book, I gotta promote something... They are not paying him to do all this. Well they may be writing the book as we speak

1:48:19 Possibly. His book and then the book will magically appear I can assure you as a writer that the kind of attention and even the article writing that Greenwald's doing currently, all the attention he is getting in all the conversations it must be going on if he comes out with a book within six months I would be stunned. I mean you just, I mean he...I would be stunned if he'd actually written it because there's only so many hours in the day and you can only really write that most any professional can write if there is zero distractions as they can maybe hit 10,000 words in one single setting once in awhile now there are no writers this guy he's barely sleeping yes no time to

1:49:02 Yeah, he's an interview whore. That's not fair! Look I've been on this train it's great when you get on the train and you got the BBC calling ya in The New York Times and Charlie Rose It gives you a huge boner it does it's great but Greenwald is...I don't know I think they got the goods on him then maybe something about that porn site that has been running or something I don't know what it is But they got the goods on him and maybe this is kind of the payoff but go back to the original premise that he was working for salon, which is being paid for by NSA compatriots namely Adobe so no he look we're all compromised in one way or the other I know. I have at least five people handling me Thank you wish no, I'm sure sure

1:49:55 For sure. Yeah, absolutely come on there's five million people working in intelligence in the United States alone that have some kind of clearance two million of which have top secret clearance you're telling me that not one or two of these emails that I get continuously from some people is not a handler? Absolutely! I can name 2-3 myself that are handling YOU Yes yeah do you want to name somebody big boy I don't feel like it, but i could. But im not going to. I know you could! I can name five that's why I say but its okay because I often reply and said your one of the best handlers I have It usually goes quiet for a day or two after I say that Maybe just get them to donate who cares? No they donate too thats the best part Yeah their not donating enough

1:50:47 Anyway, so the I think I learned a new term. I think Glenn Greenwald May have to be careful for Boston breaks Have you ever heard this term? Nope. It's a beauty the Boston breaks Well producer sent it to me there's a link in the show notes and the Boston brakes started in the I think the 80s where The mob in Boston would You know, like disable brakes or you know it's like and but not like kill people or try not to kill people. But there's like the daughter of some rival guy and then they'd have her slam into a light post and have the accelerator or the speedometer look like she was doing 200, stuff like that which is all completely doable. Oh yeah more doable today than ever yes

1:51:38 Oh, before I forget one of our other producers. Geez we got so many Has been requesting stuff from Los Angeles regarding Michael Hastings he's requested the corners report which is not yet available He got a response on that but he also requested a copy of the 9-1-1 tapes and and let's see so I have the Los Angeles Police Department reply here. Reviewed your request for 911 calls blah, blah, blah...for the June 18th 2013 600 block of Highland involving Michael Hastings and then they go into why they can't release the tapes and why they don't have to release the tapes but they gave us a call log

1:52:23 With a summary of, let me see... 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 calls. Four of which I shall read to you June 18th, time of occurrence not provided in call. Factual circumstance caller reported an accident car exploded. Caller was transferred to Los Angeles City Fire Department Number two here caller reported a huge accident car had blown up caller just transferred to Los Angeles City Fire Department Caller reported a traffic collision. He is not involved there's possibly a fatality because there was a giant explosion Now the thing here's the thing that That is that will somewhere has to be in the report as a hallmark of the Boston brakes and Boston brakes can Be you know, it's also a term that is used by the mob for new airplane crashes small airplane typically

1:53:18 But the hallmark of the Boston breaks? No skid marks. I want to go back because i'm actually even though, I'm supposed to be more skeptical than some people by the way. I guess we're devourers less skeptical But Adams ideas and then I'm gonna just bring this up yeah, I'm let's Adam has not gone into his water-powered cars And his space aliens and a visitation with them and all that stuff where I'm skeptical he's been doing he has

1:53:54 real source material. What am I supposed to be skeptical about when somebody like just now reads the log and it says explosion, explosion, explosion or blew up? And the thesis of course which i think is a very good one and can be easily looked into which is that idea that a drone hit the car. Now, I'm thinking he was doing this, supposedly doing 100 miles an hour and there was a picture of him zooming through a red light that's been around the internet. Yeah by a paparazzi and then he was going the wrong way okay well we'll forget that but whatever the case let's assume it was going fast yeah it would be like somebody could what if you got a call saying hey you know they've got a drone on ya

1:54:38 Blow you up, get out of there. And so he was trying to get out of the way and here's what I want somebody's got it one of our listeners has gotta be in the LA area with a Geiger counter these drones are tipped with uranium depleted uranium I don't know that we have... No, those are only the ones we shoot at brown people. White people don't get the DU. I really doubt that we have like special drone heads if you're gonna kill somebody and most of them don't believe that depleted uranium is that bad of a thing. Well hold on this was not a predator drone with a hellfire! That would've made quite a hole in the uh... on highland avenue if this was a drug dealer had to be a smaller much smaller my budget means more likely to meet him you can have a uh... uranium tips whatever why do i like the uh... dislike the whole idea he's just like the idea of people getting contaminated and dying later right special hollywood so i mean i'd like to call on hale you know it would be a

1:55:42 I just don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that a drone would take this guy out or take out that train car up north with exploding crude oil. It just seems too easy to do it that way why plant a bomb in the guys car right and then remotely trigger it you know maybe could have been that as possible and you know with a phone, you call I don't know. It's just the whole thing is fishy and if they think there's nothing to suspect here, the LAPD has obviously been told to shut up and stay quiet Well we'll see We'll see...I really like that our producers are asking for this information They're doing FOIA requests That's pretty bold! I dig that Yeah well anyway so this guy was blowed up for some reason And we still don't really know why

1:56:42 Well, we do kind of because and we think we think that may be a reason but I'm not convinced It's that simple. It could also just be purely a message Yeah, it may have nothing to do with him. I think a lot of people took a I listened I heard it No I listen very closely. Boston Breaks to me is like, okay alright i get you...I'm all good Let's stay in Boston for one more second well actually not in Boston let's go to the Hill three hours of C-SPAN testimony I was very excited about about the Boston bombing and of course we have our Homeland Terrorism Oversight Committee having a look and it started off like this The FBI Homeland Security

1:57:40 The committee is meeting today to continue our series of hearings examining the Boston bombings of April 15, 2013. I now recognize myself for an opening statement. By the way when i walk into a room...I'm gonna do that. You recognize yourself? Hold up the mirror first! Hi everybody, I recognize myself for an opening statement about my entrance hold on. I want to thank the witnesses for appearing here today This is an open hearing and today we will vote on convening a closed session tomorrow to receive classified testimony. So already I'm like, oh really? This is going to be bogative! There's gonna be nothing good in here if the real testimony is tomorrow... From the Department of Homeland Security and the National Counterterrorism Center

1:58:25 Unfortunately, the FBI has refused to appear. Oh! Really now? And continues to refuse this committee's appropriate requests for information and documents crucial to our investigation into what happened in Boston Let me guess is that because they can't find the video of the Sarnoff brothers putting the bombs into the trashcan and could that be it John the video that everyone knows exists but no one has actually seen it, even though we've seen every other video known to man? Including the governor that no one has seen this video. Could it be anything like that could have anything to do with it possibly maybe three months ago there was a terrorist attack in our country and is this committee's responsibility to find out how we did not see it coming what concerns me greatly is at the problem at the heart of preventing the Boston bombings as a failure to share information

1:59:20 That is being witnessed now in this very room. That's right there you go And then we have and this is one of our producers again who caught this and I just found it interesting You know the guy Jeff Bauman the guy who? Apparently had his legs blown off He was in the wheelchair and everything and remember that guy everyone like oh, he's fake well He's a its healing process is remarkable NBC nightly news had a piece on him where it's incredible how quickly he is healed. And I haven't, I was gonna ask Miss Mickey because she has some experience about this type of particular wound but... I was actually very sick yesterday to tell you about that later so didn't get to because it's weird topic weird conversation but this guy his healed very very quickly He's already using prosthetics to walk around and they amputated his legs above the knee

2:00:22 And again, I just don't know enough about the topic but it looked like his injuries were below the knee and i would think that might be handier to have the knee. I don't know any of this but he threw this line out which was mind-boggling Jeff got to throw out the first pitch at Fenway and was invited on hallowed ice at a Bruins game Seeing 20 thousand people yelling for you and clapping is pretty intense Just three weeks ago, Jeff took his first steps with the help of his new prosthetics. What have you learned about the resilience of the human body? It's crazy! It's really tough... it's insane I mean i'm a quick healer they were calling me Wolverine He is an X-Men guy that heals really quick How do you remain so powerful? They call him Wolverine which would just happen to be in theaters now Oh God Yeah There's no reason for them to call him Wolverine

2:01:25 Yeah, there is none. Unless he's a dead ringer for Hugh Jackman is he? No! But it's in theaters now. Yeah that's bad... Good job by whoever that was who came up with the idea. And this morning I had another producer and and I wasn't getting it. I was just not understanding what he was telling me when he was sending these articles of course we had this kid Corey Monteith from Glee died in a hotel room. Right and so he's sending me these links like look, you've taught me how to do this! You're not seeing the connection? What are you talking about?! And let me see if I have... don't we have a Hollywood Whackers jingle? We used too

2:02:16 Mmm, I don't remember a jingle. Oh yeah there was something it wasn't yeah It would I don't think you played in as much to keep it you probably lost it Anyway doesn't matter I'll see if I can find it later So this kid dies and he sends me this link He says no no this is about something else okay? What is it so here is the headline from variety oh After after spending the past two weeks trying to turn the tide for Pacific Rim Warner Brothers and legendary pictures now are bracing for what appears to be a gruesome inevitability For the 185 million plus dollar monster movie with a domestic opening ranging between 25 million and 35 million Which is pretty much failure Now, let me ask you if you

2:03:10 Stood to lose you know a good 150 million or 100 million or even 20-20 million now Would you kill someone if you could turn the tide? Me personally no, but no but if you were evil. Oh if I was just one of those Hollywood guys yeah probably If you so where was this kid whacked and by the way this this movie The Pacific Rim is a 13, it's a PG movie. So it's for kids who love Glee Well there are couple things about this movie that are weird before you go and finish your thing First it got alot of negative bad publicity early on because it was going to be a dog supposedly And it isn't just singing and dancing monster movie

2:04:02 So I mean they're not done to music, but they did choreographs and all the rest JC actually went to see that movie And he thought it was quite good even though. He was under the impression was gonna be crap Rotten Tomatoes actually gave it a 71% plus so that wasn't it wasn't a rotten movie? And then number of people at one to see it on the Rotten Tomatoes website was extremely high so for some reason this movie there's something more to this story because this movie was Was a setup to ruin someone and it looks like it actually may not be a dog at the box office Well, why don't you Google Cory? Monteith and click on any any link and tell me what and tell me what phrase you see Okay I'm looking at the look if you can find the BBC link. It's even I got I got the Fox found dead in there best knowing one of the stars in New Glee

2:04:57 Confirmed in Monty's body found room 21st floor Pacific Rim. There you go! And every single story repeats the word Pacific Rim at least five times Hey, it's a Hail Mary but it's not entirely out of the question Well there is something very suspicious about this film and I believe there are two sides trying to sink it one side trying to make money on it...I don't know But that is peculiar. A peculiar coincidence I've actually stayed at that hotel Wow, you got out just in time Yeah! It was there 17 years ago

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2:14:06 Yes, like many of us. Thank you very much for your contribution I was very sick the other day Yeah you were going to say that Sir Gene Baron of Texas Sheriff of something no Baron de Marriott Sheriff of Texas was in town Okay, so what did he try to do? Did he bring his pricker well So he took miss Mickey and I out to dinner which was very kind. This was Friday where'd you go? To a trace don't know it that's a Miss Mickey's choice actually she's always easy when someone else is gonna pay and um so we come back And he says look I got some cigars

2:14:54 Oh, you smoked a cigar and you got sick. Well... Were they Cubanos? They were special cigars. I'm not gonna- They were not anything identified specifically as Cubano but they were- I hadn't smoked a cigar in over a year mind you and of course haven't smoked at all and you don't really inhale cigars but You better not No So we're outside and of course it's 95 degrees and we're out until on the back porch until ehh I think Gene left around quarter to two And so I smoked one cigar with him and drank one or two scotch with water, which is what I typically drink. And I woke up at seven in the morning and I almost asked Miki to take me to the hospital. You woke up this morning? At 7am? No yesterday. Saturday

2:15:44 Maybe it was like don't go partying the night before the show. That's my well number, but check it out We weren't partying so obviously my mouth tasted like a dead bird had shit in there But yeah, that's the cigar cigars right? That's terrible um, but what had happened is The mold allergy I had not realized that the mold is like at the highest ever and you'll recall what happens with me It's my brain swells up And so and my head was exploding. I had to stay home all day, I was lying down! I was completely hammered and now I have to eat all these you know the nettles and the quercetin and everything...and this morning even though we went to bed on time I still woke up with a little bit of a headache So it's very problematic this mold allergy

2:16:33 So you blame the mold? Not the cigar and all the booze. It wasn't, that's what it was because I didn't drink anything last night and I didn't smoke anything last night at first i thought gene had literally poisoned me i'm like oh that's it because we all know gene we all know he's gonna go I swear, I'm like Mickey. Nobody trust me just because I am Russian. I think Gene is poisoning me! Take me to the hospital it's time! Gene is poisoning you? You're a little paranoid. Well hello Hastings need I say more? And then the butt disappeared

2:17:22 What do you mean the butt disappeared? Well, it's because the poison would have been in the cigar and then somebody had to come and reclaim it. And yes, the cleaners came that day earlier than usual... ...and scrubbed down the house and took the butt! Just two quick ones Adam being a good producer when asked to proceed into the scanner I politely advised that my left shoulder prevented me lifting my arms above my head it works down under he says now This is our producer Aiden snorkel actually long story short In so they finally put scanners in Australia John. This is really what this is about and

2:18:06 You'll be pleased to know that finally installed scanners in Sydney International Airport. Yes, we're pretty slow on the uptake and Gitmo down under We're probably buying the old ones that they were decommissioning up there where you guys are I've been using rapids can what were they? I don't know he didn't he didn't tell us yeah Well no So anyway being good producer He advised his left shoulder preventive for lifting his arms the confusion that ensued was hilarious That's always fun when you can confuse officials Long story short, they apparently had an opt-out procedure but no one knew what it was. Being the good citizen that I am... ...I inducted the security staff at Sydney Airport into the No Agenda Valet Program with helpful suggestions like instead of this instead of the scanner you have to pat me down and someone needs to collect my things for me then you can swab me in my bag so he's telling him how to do it

2:19:03 Everything went according to plan until the security agent advised me pre-pat down, hand wand metal detector scan. To go collect my bags from the x ray table pack it all up and bring it to the bomb material trace scanning for scanner... scanner for scanning! To reiterate I was asked to pack my own bag up from the X-ray machine and could have put whatever I wanted into my pockets back in the scanned bag before I was treated to the hand massage Was really looking forward to my blender. Yes, I was really looking forward to my first valet service experience So even when I asked the agent are you sure? I'm allowed to touch my stuff before I'm pat down to which the agent replied Yeah, that's fine Nice to see that with all the new DNA scrambling security technology It all comes unstuck with someone who isn't interested in being a slave For what it's worth

2:19:53 In the layover in Dubai, I declined to try any NA valet tips. I never know what grain of something might be on the sole of my shoe that might land me in jail over there." Anyways thank you very much Snorkel for trying to help out and getting the valet service instated there in Sydney. I'm surprised! Well they'll work it out And finally Hans Huffner Dear Adam even though I don't agree with everything you say...I love when people start off like that You know I've always found it annoying Uh, you get to see I get it because just from writing columns for 30 years you get these letters that come in. I don't always agree with everything you say well, you know i dont know that anyone would so why do you say that? Yeah, I wonder what it is... It's just to assume im a free thinker, why dont'cha start that way You know I think for myself but I liked what you said What is that? That is very interesting phenomenon In thirty years haven't figured out where that comes from

2:20:52 No, I'm always baffled by this. It's something to do with... either apologizing for writing I think it has something to do with that or they want to get a little did something you did is still in their craw. They gotta give you the needle, everything you say okay? I think it's okay if you say okay here's how I would say and I will accept this if you say even though I don't agree with everything you say an excuse me for existing I think that'll be fine Excuse me for existing, but this is funny because he says even though I don't agree with everything you say you're doing amazing work. I'm running into the danger of getting my information only from the no agenda show which is not a good thing. I agree yeah as many sources of information are better than one to form an opinion put it's get Can I interrupt again? Yeah It's like there's another aspect to this

2:21:50 you can get all the information you want from The No Agenda Show, but we're not an information show. We are a show trying to enlighten... It's like why would you give a guy a fish when he can show him how to fish? I should write that down! That is great! You could go into your Bible. So the idea is you really wanna go revisit so you because yeah what do we give me the tools to laugh You have a great time watching the regular media. Yes, we're giving you laughter tools. Please pronounce tools properly. Tools. It's getting harder and harder to hear watch read todays journalists no this is where your incorrect I agree We are giving you the tools so that you can watch and go pfft pfft pfft boy those guys are full of crap

2:22:42 By the way that would make you incredibly annoying in any crowd, which is really fun. Ah yes now this is the entire point Yeah I don't understand why people don't get that so before we go on to...I have actually a couple funny clips I want to play but before we do that..I don't have any clips But we have to say something about Janet Napolitano. I will let me say finish the show on Thursday and boom she quits! Okay, first of all i'm very very very very very sad First Hillary now Lucy this is bad It's terrible Who am I gonna make fun of? And there's going to be nobody left over Nobody else like those two There's nobody left over I mean Hillary'll be back but yeah well Napolitano was done Um... No Uh..I have a theory on this

2:23:38 Good, because I don't. My theory is the basic one that we'd come out with no agenda thinking which is they put her at the University of California to make sure the recruits had a clue early on No this is a little bit longer game although that's a perfect place for her to go so first we have to know that everything's coming undone The stuff is going to unravel. We haven't talked about the lawsuits in a while, but that whole organization is ill." It's a very you know there's women who are harassing men. There's been lawsuits about this that you know gets no play in the media But it really very lots of sexual harassment by lesbians in the yes Department of Homelessness and it's talked about is bent the suits have been filed Yeah, you can you can find the papers and everything? And it's a very unfriendly unhealthy environment I'm convinced of it and this stuff

2:24:34 I mean, look you only have to look at the TSA to know what's happening at the top. It's rotten from top to bottom. The FBI is now not showing up at hearings because they've messed it up and there is a slight possibility that there's going to be a huge revamp going on Because, you know why not? We might as well. You know this is a big organization A lot of money and it in you know then it's all made up stuff It's all stuff we don't need so I think you need some bad stuff to come out So that then we can have new person come in and rebuild it And there'll be invigorating and the whole security industry will love it It's got to be cyber and yeah what I think really she needed to go once she admitted that She doesn't even use a computer That was kind of her

2:25:25 You know, I think everyone was like okay. Why did you have to say that? Why do you have to go and ruin the fun when you were doing great?" I don't think she... if you're not so far out of it that you wouldn't know not to say that! Open up the book. I want you to put an entry in because i know where this is headed This is not just her going into education Are you kidding me?! Ruth Ginsburg should not be eating any oysters. Ruth Ginsburg, who is a Supreme Court justice is going to die in the next year I'm sorry to say it and Janet Napolitano will be our next Supreme Court judge replacing Ruth Ginsburg Well that'll be a wash actually been improved no now. I think it's going to be very frightening

2:26:32 Now it could be Thomas. It could happen that he just have a heart attack, but it would have to be cool with him on top of a hooker? They're not going to do something that extreme. Wouldn't it be cool though if Chief Justice Clarence Thomas died on top of a hooker? Well let's put my little thing in here which is... Yeah it would be! That'd come out great! But that's not gonna happen. Can you put the book as a side note just incase so I can claim it? How about this for an idea if you want to go into this direction Mainly because it kept being brought up in the conversation Alito Okay, possible because if you remember we've been here. Oh I had judge elite those paperwork right in my hands They were you know spying? It was one of they was these Tice guy he was talking about everybody this very good very good Yes blowers that are supposed whistleblowers from the NSA there they kept mentioning a Leto a Leto a Leto That could be code write it down a Leto Boston breaks

2:27:34 Alito, Boston Breaks Janet Supreme Court. You can feel it! She's a lawyer she's all in Well that can't happen right away then because they're not going to put her at the University of California It has got to be near the end of Obama's administration Of course it has to be before 2016 obviously but they needed someone They needed the right person and she doesn't have the right resume Yes she's been governor You know, she's been in... She's run a huge department. Now she gets to do the educational part is perfect! She'll have everything she needs. She'll have the you know, the background now of education. I have to dog ear this page thing because it's gonna be way out there. Yeah so can't just slip a note in it? A lanyard don't you have a no agenda lanyard? I have lots of lanyards but... Slip a lanyard in there

2:28:27 Alito. I'm saying it's either Clarence Thomas on top of a hooker or Samuel Alito with the candlestick and the Boston Brakes We'll see but the one that really is probably the closest to being too old is definitely Kiki Kiki Ginsburg? Yeah, that's what her nickname is Is it really Kiki? A lot people don't know that I did not know that yeah I didn't know her name was Kiki That's funny A good friend of hers told me that years ago. I always thought that was weird and no one's ever picked it up So, I have a couple of very funny clips that just kills me as Claire McCaskill

2:29:11 doing a, it's C-SPAN, uh...doing an investigation of robocalls. And this is the Claire and Rachel clip. And who is Claire McCaskill? Claire McCaskill was the woman that was supposed to be run out of town by the Republicans but then they had the guy that ran against her as senator. The douchebag who went on about legitimate rape or something stupid and they couldn't win anyway So she's running this investigation. I think it is pretty funny. Fraudulent robocalls have since filled the void and have become the source of understandable anger and frustration among the public These automated, pre-recorded telemarketing calls that often seek personal information from unsuspecting consumers

2:29:53 are an annoyance at best, but they can be devastating for those that are defrauded by them. It's easy to see how consumers can easily be confused by these calls One common scam involves a call from Rachel from Cardholder Services offering an easy way to reduce consumer credit card interest rates This is Rachel at Cardholder Services calling in reference to your current credit card account. There are no problems currently with your account, it is urgent that you... ...concerning your eligibility for lowering your interest rate. Your eligibility expires shortly so please consider this your final note and... ...one on your phone now to see the live operator and lower your interest rate number two

2:30:42 Another common scam involves robocalls warning consumers that their auto warranty is about to expire. This is an important message regarding your automotive warranty We have made several attempts to reach you this is your final courtesy call before your vehicle is reclassified In both examples, with the press of a button the consumer is directed to an individual whose job it is to collect financial information in an effort to defraud them. Even pressing the button they claim removes the caller from their list does nothing more than identify a phone number as valid

2:31:26 likely increasing the frequency of unwanted calls in the future. That's a good clip. It is not quite Clip of the Day, but it is good. I never got the one about the car but its pretty funny If I can just say we get that all the time now because you know I bought Miss Mickey the second hand Ford and so we don't even listen to them The phone rings all day here The one that we have as part of Time Warner service Why even bother? We shouldn't even have it anymore But now we're getting all these warranty things, like oh no your warranty's expiring. And you look at it at face value like what is this? You have to look for a second because I bought extra warranty with the car so that you do have this moment of what's going on and of course if you figure out there's a scam pretty quick but it's a big one and you get on the list that's what happens, you buy a car boom! Your'e on the list Even Mechanics Bank is sending me weird shit now

2:32:29 So we have debit cards and we once got a credit card, and we used it once and paid off the balance. And we are literally getting envelopes from our bank John, Mechanic saying... Yeah so obviously coming from the MasterCard people Important information enclosed! You have zero balance!! Yeaaah? This is not good!!! You need to use it! And I have a whopping $2,800 dollars that I can use. So reliable. So the second clip which is just an idea of the complaints that come into the FTC, play that FTC clip about these calls. Law enforcement officials have estimated that telemarketing fraud costs Americans over 40 billion dollars annually

2:33:21 So it is no wonder that robocalls consistently remain a top consumer complaint at the FTC as well as the FCC. The FTC alone receives more than 200,000 complaints about robocalls every month." Alright so here's the deal why isn't the NSA doing something about this? What do you mean They've got all this stuff, they can track these guys down. If you listen to the whole hearing everything these guys are doing is illegal yeah they're running it in and out of Ukraine and all over the world none of these calls are coming from the United States by the way when Rachel calls you it's bull crap

2:34:04 But there's facilitators, there are companies that take the credit cards and they're American. And we have the NSA which apparently is recording everything including all these calls that are coming from these phonies and they can track anything! Why doesn't our government put a stop to this? We have these intelligence agencies spying on every single American 24-7 it makes no sense to me Is it possible that this is the NSA? That they're just using all of your information and then to give you stupid offers. And then to also scam you so they can get the 40 billion in their coffers, that's a funny idea but there's no way... Where is the FBI on this? I'm not buying it that these guys are so good with these robo calls that they can't be found! The CEO can be found

2:34:57 I think that's funny. This has been going on for years as Rachel! Right, you're absolutely right. I don't know what maybe they're not motivated You tell me, what do you think? Maybe we gotta convince him that Rachel's a terrorist. Well this year I'm trying to... That'd be kind of funny actually for some reason i can't get it to work I think our phone is busted. I think I should play back a couple the calls that we get here at the house. You should record them because we only get... The only ones I get now is I get Rachel still she keeps calling and even though... Oh! You actually have gotten Rachel

2:35:35 All the time. Oh, I know. Almost daily! You should talk to her a little while And it says right on the caller ID card services Card services yeah... I just lift and hang I mean I don't even pick it up I just hang up on them you know I got on a list I got sold around and so whenever 202 calls me I know not to answer in fact I betcha can play at 202 if you're interested When you answer the phone and go, this call may be recorded. What's that word they use for customer safety assurance or something? For your...for customer...I don't know what do they call it to...? I don't know when they do that though i'm going to uh.. I think im gonna do that. This call maybe recorded So I got on a list probably when I interviewed Ron Paul Oh yeah! That would make sense And that is how long ago

2:36:30 Two and a half years? More than that. No, it was the 2008 election Oh then it was that long ago Right So this is July 3rd 2013 from a 202 area code which of course is Washington DC Hey Adam, hey Adam Corey Hubbard with the Coalition to Reduce Spending giving you a call to follow up on that letter from Peter Schiff I never got a letter from Peter Schiff, by the way. So wouldn't it be funny? I'm gonna pick up a robocall right now. This is real person Oh, she was actually telling you this and just leaving the message on her machine Yeah, this is a message on your machine yeah, one two eight three I'll follow up via email and hope to hear back from him again I'll be out there in two weeks and would love to get your year minute. I think Adam Hey, I want to call her back go hey hey could you take off your dress what do you do? What are you wearing right now? She doesn't have kind of a kinky sexy voice

2:37:47 Yeah, yeah listen. Hey Adam, hey Adam Corey Hubbard with the Coalition to Reduce Spending giving you a call to follow up on that... Not like a hippie chick voice maybe? No wait listen for second. I'm working with a couple people that used to work for Gary Johnson back in when he was running for president and uh... Listen she has a very slight thing going on. And we got your name. We thought you'd be interested in what we're working on now. I'm going to be out of San Francisco in two weeks and wanted to see if you could spare 20-30 minutes and sit down with me briefly so I can... Oh, I'll sit down with you briefly? I've got some ideas for ya! Actually, I want to call her back What is wrong with you?! Because I wanna call her back and harass her and say hey Corey yeah I got to twenty or thirty You know, I wanted you to sit down briefly but over here

2:38:35 Or debriefly if you don't mind. I want to sit on my lap, people stop calling me! Um...I know all you want is money Peter Schiff how does Peter Schiff now get my number? Peter Schiff?! That's what she said! Why if they want money from you why not just get it from him!? Well which leads me to believe he's a scam He's got no money It's possible and lot of these guys are that way He's got no money Peter Schiff what's he up too No, he's always predicting the end of the world. He's like one of those perpetual bears Yeah end of the world yeah here you go Peter Schiff This is the classic Peter Schiff gold is on the verge Of his biggest rally ever I buy that by the way. I'm totally in on that yeah You are this keeps falling mm-hmm by the way reality will clobber Japan says Peter Schiff

2:39:37 I do want to make very clear that i love my wife and that i need no other sex but sex from her. Because, at a certain point she listens to the show it's got to eat at her. And she goes what is wrong with this guy? It's gotta eat at her! Sure does! It's show business! She's hot! Send pictures! What is wrong with my husband?! Something's wrong with my husband. I can always say it's the Tourette's honey, it's just the Tourette's. I signed an examiner from last year Cher has new crush on TV host What are you doing? Settle down done with bikers this story just kind of came and went what are you talking about? It was Chris Hayes that douchebag on MSNBC No! That's who Cher was with no she had a crush on him she made a big stink about it

2:40:34 Chris Hayes? Just when Hayes was getting his, he was getting upgraded on MSNBC and this is a publicity stunt. No! Wear masks to protect from MERS coronavirus Saudi officials ask pilgrims have you noticed this uh what do you think I'm gonna put in the red book i think they're going to try to make something make hay with this saudi specific killer bug Tell me about this. You don't know about it? No the Middle Eastern MERS which sounds like... Oh yes, yeah middle eastern retro rotavirus or whatever no Middle Eastern respiratory oh respiratory syndrome yes Yeah well It's killing 50% of the people who have it except for apparently the people who have it and they'd have no symptoms whatsoever They don't know how to count those could be everyone

2:41:26 And more importantly, the story in the LA Times again about Saudis which makes me suspicious. Saudi Arabian consulate posted princesses $5 million bail. You know that's all bull crap who gives a shit about that? I think they're running slaves down there in the area. They are running slaves! That's exactly what they are... God damn it! If you're around the house step away with your cell phones annoying me! I can hear that It's non-stop. I'm looking for the dot on my forehead, you know? Where are you? Step away! I heard it that time. It just keeps going and the phone is...I've turned the phone off Wait Oh i'm sorry

2:42:13 I'm sorry NSA, maybe i should take the battery out. Is that how I have to do it now? Because you're turning it on remotely or something is that what it is? This will be a good test. Yeah. Take the battery out! I am going to right now let's see if it stops. Hold on... Okay. Battery is out Let's see if it ends That would be pretty funky wouldn't it? I think it'd be great. Okay, battery is out and I'll let you know if I hear anything So anyway yeah they are running slaves these Saudis Hell yeah. So my favorite line was apparently some woman from the, some black woman she goes in once you get into Saudi Arabia they tear up your passport and do all these things it's just hilarious Now there is something you asked me to put... Don't marry a Saudi women There is something he asked me to put in the show notes about the uh the Chinook helicopters flying over Port Angeles Oh yeah Port Angeles had an invasion By the US Army by the U S army I might point out Mimi calls me up during the invasion

2:43:15 And I can't hear a word she's saying. The choppers are so loud! She says, Can you hear that? I can hear that better than I can hear you. There was apparently a bunch of Chinooks and Apaches and some jets Flying over in a circle around Port Angeles in the area mm-hmm, and it would they never called the local authorities They're got something like 250 phone calls even though all the news report says a dozen Which is bullcrap because everyone was calling and apparently was so loud Dogs are barking going crazy And there's just and then the army finally turned out to be one of their facilities Decided to do training over the town

2:43:53 And we forgot to tell all the citizens of the world. Hey, we're gonna be flying around scaring you and it was like 1130 to 12 midnight can I point out that the Phone interference has stopped since I took the battery out or the phone that was turned off No, no this is this is a very significant discovery Let's put it back in Yeah The phone you say was off, yes. Well no I mean the power was down now i'm going to put the battery... You had it turned off? Yes and then put the battery back in let's see what happens see if it comes back okay i'll put it over there yeah well this of course has been ongoing we've seen it in Florida we've seen it many different states uh then the Midwest and it's all obviously it's all um to condition you for the coming apocalypse or conditioned for crackdown yeah

2:44:52 There's plenty of places, you know especially in the Pacific Northwest if you want to just fly around like an idiot uh wasting probably a million dollars in taxpayers money over the town of Port Angeles. You can just move south a little bit and it's just all woods there's nothing out much of Washington state is very empty Oh oh did you hear it? No It's back What kind of phone do you have that's a note a galaxy note Maybe it's just shorting out. No, the transmitter is transmitting But you can't be transmitted because you've got it turned off. Be quiet! I'm telling you that now it's transmitting again It has not turned on and its transmitting What does that tell ya? Yeah, tells me a lot believe me There it is! Oh there we go perfect

2:45:55 Alright, so this phone is off. Okay? I'm holding it now near the microphone and i'm going to take... People who... And you maybe couldn't hear through the Skype but now I'm gonna take the battery out again So clearly, y'know This is what they always say It's like even if your phone is off They can turn it on They can listen to it It's transmitting your... You hear that?! Did ya hear that!? And now I just took the battery out Now it should be gone Yeah There we go Big joke Very funny guys Ha ha ha Well wait a minute If they want to hear anything, why don't they just get to go on the No Agenda stream and they can hear everything. You got a huge microphone! And donate! Yeah, and donate, cheapies! That is... that's just crazy It's transmitting Well this is Android of course you know it could also be for advertising purposes Its Google

2:46:49 A-holes. This is why I'm not carrying a phone anymore, but now... But I can't even have it on during the show because it has to or off during the show because... You can't even have it off during the show? Yeah, you have to take the battery out really that's quite a lot of work One these days they'll put some mercury batteries in there as backup and then that thing will always work Well, I'm opting out. I'm not participating at any more I'm really not. Bull crap! I have not been carrying this phone around for ever since i told you two weeks? Yeah, I have not used the phone. I am not taking it out and go out without... I've been doing that for years. I very rarely use my cell phone. But do you take it with you sometimes maybe if I forget is no big deal right well okay but yeah for me I've grown up always having a phone around and now just like him to any of you want reach me you can wait

2:47:43 I'll talk to you later. My attitude always, well i know but there's nothing that important what if it's an emergency someone will say what if it's an emergency wait we want you do before cell phones when there was an emergency who dealt with it Oh, it could be an emergency. Are you walking around all day with a cell phone because there might be... How many emergencies calls have you gotten in the last five years that were so important that you had to take the call immediately and take action? You're not a doctor! No, there was only one call and I'm not expecting those anymore cause' I've always told my daughter if you ever need to get home or something and something's wrong or your drunk or whatever

2:48:24 You call me, no questions asked. I'll make sure you're picked up or I'll pick you up." No questions asked! That's what I've always said and she called me once in the middle of the night and said, Dad? No questions asked... She was in London. Can you send a car for me?" He says it will be right there that's once that is really the only time I can remember yeah that's it so so that argument is bull crap She would have done fine going on her own if she couldn't get ahold of you. She would probably be less happy, but yeah... Can we do one last thing here? Something that kind of like it's regarding Texas and the abortion thing in Battleground Texas and some information I've dug up or should we keep that for Thursday? It can keep is not doesn't really matter

2:49:08 Well, if it's you know I thought that we beat down to death already but if you want to do one more thing once you finish it off and then when close the show on Thursday will be fresh. Okay! We'll be fresh yeah So a report came out from the BBC and was very interesting It was facts of induced abortion worldwide someone forwarded this to me and I'm sorry it was uh that wasn't what it was called. It was called something else on the BBC, Europe's abortion rules that's what it was called so you're Europe's abortion rules and you'd be kind of um...and this is why I was kind of stunned thinking here we are in Texas were in crazy red state Texas horrible Republicans

2:49:58 Who are actually have the audacity and that this passed of course, this passed. The bill passed it's now law in Texas. Oh Wendy didn't get her way? Wendy didn't get her way And there is a gestation period of 20 weeks so five months you cannot just get an abortion legally after five months without their being... It's quite a long time without there being of course danger to the mother, severely disformed whatever child will have no life rape incest all that stuff still is on the books but it was 20 weeks and then the you know the whole making clinics very difficult to stay open which is just an extrapolation as of course we know this is probably for Rick Perry's sister who was going to open up new clinics which will do this for ten times amount money. But that's not what this about

2:50:50 I was very surprised to read the rules in EU countries. So, I'll just go through some briefly Austria availability on request but 12 weeks is the gestation period there or gestation limit Belgium 12 weeks a woman must say she's in state of distress Bulgaria on request 12 weeks, only if the woman is suffering from a proven documented case of disease. Wait wait wait hold on a second here you're I've been led to believe that the great liberal Europe is what we model ourselves after for this sort of thing This was the surprise I had

2:51:35 12 weeks, a woman must claim that this is France and must be in state of distress because of her pregnancy. After twelve weeks abortions are allowed only if the pregnancy proves a grave danger to the woman's health. Germany, women must receive proper counseling three days before their procedure. This is stuff that has been fought over in America we don't have this counseling Let's see, counseling is a right-wing plot. 12 weeks in Hungary woman must obtain counseling okay so I'm like wow! I've been led to believe that the liberal Europe was exactly the opposite so i fire this off on a little email to my respected and loved Obama bot female friends

2:52:16 Oh, this is good. Oh yeah! So I guess... Is this a show closer or it's just like a mean spirited? You're gonna be the worst old man Well, I have it. I stand on the shoulders of giants. I'm telling you I stand on the shoulders of Giants John looking at you so here's their response they get back I wonder if the demand for abortions is lower in Europe due to easier free access to birth control. Also, sex education has got to be better in Europe than in the US! Hello abstinence only education?

2:52:59 So perhaps women don't feel the need to fight for abortion on demand there? I'm actually surprised Italy isn't more restrictive. I had assumptions that between the influence of the Roman Catholic Church and concerns over low birth rate of Italians, there'd be stricter abortion laws. Now I am like hold on a second nowhere in this document did it mention demand for lower abortions in Europe And so I said, hey you know that's not in the document. In fact i found the uh the document and this is from gutmacher.org The Gutmacher Institute which gets its information from the World Health Organization and it's most recent numbers are from 2008 and this is what I sent back. I said wow! I'm astonished because

2:53:48 If you look at the number of abortions in North America, in 2008 it was 1.4 million In Europe 4.2 million Now of course there's differences in population so there is also a number for... Hold on There's also a number for abortions per 1000 women North America for every 1000 women in 2008 there were 19 abortions for every 1,000 women there was 27 abortions. So I send this back and say holy crap did you know that this free liberal thinking sex ed, free condoms, the free pill everything Europe actually has 3 million more abortion per year 10% more per 1000 women?

2:54:40 And I'm flabbergasted by this and I get something back. She's a wait a minute and so now my friend she's like hey, this is really weird because I have A paper that actually says the opposite that this isn't you know? This is not true Uh-huh nice yeah Let me bring it up so she said then and and I haven't figured out where she got this from but she's on lists of course And this is from the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, and their report from October 2012 is titled, unplanned pregnancy an abortion in the United States and Europe. Why so different?

2:55:27 And I'm like, wow this is a gem. So first of all the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy is a non-governmental organization and from the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control alone it received 100 million dollars well funded organization Yes! And I look at this and the first thing I think and you John you and I know when you have an organization like this You gotta keep the budget The number one thing, when you have this type of organization with this kind of money your number one mission is to keep the organization going. We're not gonna solve anything would you agree that's kinda what you have to do? Yes! That's what you want to do too. This is a payday. Yeah okay so the title of this report is misleading at best again unintended pregnancy in the US and Europe why so different which of course implies there's a huge difference

2:56:19 And we know the difference is, yeah in Europe they're a lot higher. Now here's the... I'm not going to read the whole abstract but little piece from the abstract and this is of course what my friend had read. Quote, abortion rates have declined significantly in the United States since 1981 but remain higher than many European countries Hello! Bingo there's your keyword many European countries Yeah, there's probably a couple that... trick tricky. So again the title is unplanned pregnancy and abortion in the United States and Europe why so different? Not in many countries in Europe In fact the study they did John was in a whopping four European countries of the 28

2:57:05 in the European Union, which I'm sure that France and Italy and the United Kingdom and Poland and Portugal and Spain are very sad they were left out because what they chose were The Netherlands and Belgium which you can almost call one country Germany and Sweden. And they took the numbers from these four countries and extrapolated it out, and this is the great thing. In the report they actually used the same... They referenced the same Guttmacher numbers for America and showed the same 1.4 million abortions 19 per 1000

2:57:44 But they never show the European number, they only extrapolate these four countries. And nowhere is there mention of I don't know the fact that they're all monarchies and that you know which is a totally different political structure There's no reference in these exact countries cities have huge Muslim populations Amsterdam 14% Brussels 25% Berlin 10% Malmo 20%. None of this is in the study. No, it's all about oh they have much better sex education and have free health care and all this and meanwhile I can

2:58:20 I could take four states from America and make our number even lower or much higher depending on which state you want. Yeah, no it's obviously a scam if i took Delaware Florida New York and Connecticut the average point is long since been made this is just manipulate this is like we're cooking the books they've cooked the books so you'll appreciate in their summary This report has sought to generate suggestive evidence, no kidding on which predictors might account for the high rate of abortion in the US relative to Europe. Which is a lie and which might be most fruitfully explored in future research Send us more money That's what that means Yes! Of course it is Can you believe this shit? This is everything

2:59:13 So, and to bring it right back around like they like to do on the talk shows. It's all about global warming That's right we're all gonna die enjoy that Global war if only they had put that in there clearly the abortion rate Clearly the abortion rate is much higher due to global warming I would have felt better than me We need to do more studies yeah how about study the other countries that make up Europe hilarious Alright, well I guess we can put the battery back in so that they can listen to our after show. Yeah! Because you know they really want... It's probably the best part of this show for them. What is their methodology for picking the art? Unfortunately that's pretty much it. Darn Coming to you from Travis Heights hideout here in the capital of The Drone Star State

3:00:23 I'm very happy to say, uh...I'm Adam Curry in the morning to y'all. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I always keep my battery out of my phone who doesn't? I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday with another live show right here on No Agenda. The best podcast in the universe! dvorak dot org slash n a m