Chubby Hitler

00:00 We do not do discounts. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, May 30th, 2013. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 517. This is no agenda. Did you just blow your nose? Coming to you from the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, no I didn't blow my nose, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's like, here's John on a Shays Lounge. Mind you, I've never ever seen your studio. I was not allowed to go the one time I was at your house. Not allowed to what? To look at it. So we only have an imaginary vision of your archive with your Shays Lounge. And now I, you know, I, what? Yeah. I'm sitting there blowing my nose. So now I did all my printouts cause I like to have, Oh God. I think you were doing a line.

01:16 I'd be able to have a lot more energy. So I have... nuts. What? So I print out my clips. Yes, we know. Well, apparently the printer had been defaulted to printing landscape. So I can't possibly read this like in two-point type. It's horrible. So who messed with your printer? Was that Busker Jr.? No, I was printing some stuff the other day and I think I did it. So you're one of the few people I know who has a need to print something in landscape.

01:57 Oh yeah, what was it? Oh yeah, no, what it was, was I, you know what's been bothering me is this conspiracy, it's a conspiracy, conspiracy theorists, conspiracy, you know that whole thing? Yeah, I live with it every day, yeah. So I, I think, well you know, what, It's not as if we're not talking about conspiracies, we're just talking about people that are lying to us. Yeah. Trying to get around the lie and figure out what's really going on. And so I went out of my way, since I do have a New York Times subscription, to dig up the old original writings on the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Oh, very good. Which is another one of those things that during this period

02:35 You people would say, oh, you're just a conspiracy person. Yeah. Now, when was this? When was the Gulf of Tonkin? What year was that? It was 1964. Right. I have all the printouts here. Landscape. Right. Because it's the New York Times. So, 64. But of course, since then, obviously, you know, we've become so transparent and it's just, you know, the government doesn't lie to you anymore. Why would it get worse? No, that's impossible. So, anyway, so here's an example of now. You would have been, oh, yeah. conspiracy theorist because you think that there was no attack now the funny thing was there was this there was a there was two incidents that took place one day after another the second day and this by the way is what created the Vietnam War for everybody it was very important was a false flag

03:22 Yeah, well no, it wasn't even a false flag. No, it wasn't a false flag. It was bullcrap. There was no anything. It was just made up out of whole cloth. Yeah, okay. Here's what happened. There were two days. The first day was a Apparently we had a ship way off shore and there was a couple of PT boats from the North Vietnamese coming out there to take a look, see what was going on. We took a couple shots at them. Much later determined that the first story was, oh, they shot at us and so we had to fire back. The real story that came out later was no, we shot at them to get them away. So nothing happened. Somebody must have come up with a bright idea.

04:00 that the next day we were under attack yes by the North Vietnamese out here in the middle of the Gulf of Tonkin yes that day nothing happened at all in fact Lyndon Johnson was recorded as saying he was golfing wasn't he what is he just hanging out by the poolside he said I think they must have been shooting at whales or something But anyway, so the idea was it was just a lie. There was nothing and this lie persisted because here's an article from 1967. This is three years later. Can I just say one thing? So I'm not quite sure what you were doing with the printouts, but if you're walking around and saying to people, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Here, look at this printout from 1964. This isn't... No, I want it for the show. I'd like to recommend you not do that because that doesn't really work.

04:49 It's for the show. Nobody thinks I'm a conspiracy nut anyway. J.W. Fulbright in a statement confirmed it. This is like three years later during another one of those hearings. You know that they're having okay, did this ever really happen confirmed today that this and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee And the staff meeting was inquiring into the 64 Gulf of Tonkin incidents to clear up uncertainties about reported encounters between the United States destroyers and North Vietnamese torpedo boats Right just three years later. We're doing a little look at look into it the Defense Department issued a statement emphasizing that the evidence

05:29 that two American destroyers were attacked by North Vietnamese torpedo boats was conclusive. Any suggestion that the August 1964 attacks on the US destroyers in the Tonkin Gulf did not occur is contrary to the known facts the Pentagon statement said. Yeah. So, yeah, so now if you're back there and by the way there was a lot of, there were sailors on the ships and they told their mates and their girlfriends and other, you know, nothing happened, I don't know what this is all about. Oh, nothing happened and you go out and say nothing happened, this is bull crap. You would be dubbed a conspiracy nut or something like that. This is just a way to marginalize the realities that are behind most of these stories.

06:16 And this went on for, this was three years later, they're still denying it. Well, it's interesting you bring this up because I, and I'll just roll into a quick clip here of Dick Durbin. What is he, what is Dick Durbin's position? Well, let's take a look in the book of knowledge. So he was on... He's the head of a couple committees. Yeah, he's a, but he's a congressman or a senator? Senator, is he not? Senator Dick Durbin, yeah, he's a senator. And so he was on some stupid show that I was of course watching. And it's exactly this where, of course now because of an alternative distribution method, we are now actually the majority media and oh my god, MSNBC now has lower ratings than HLN.

07:05 I didn't know it could go any lower than that. So all the cable news stations, except probably for Fox, they're down too, are really down below 200,000 people at any given moment, certainly during prime time, which is really, I mean, just people, it's the complete minority media But because there's so much minority media altogether, which makes up the mainstream It kind of looks like that's the truth But obviously we know that other things are taking place and there's an alternative distribution of which the best podcasting universe is a part of. So Dick Durbin brings back the old meme which we've heard several times now about the Constitution of course the First Amendment would be the right to free speech the right to a free press and

07:54 It's number one in the Constitution because I think it probably was an important one. They say, hey, you know what, let's make this number one. But obviously, John, as you know, that was written 200 years ago and free speech was different then. Comfortable with the idea that the president has asked the attorney general to review the attorney general's own actions. Well, you've raised an important point and I heard Senator Graham call for special counsel. I'm not ready to do this at this moment. I'd like to know if Holder has any conflict in here beyond what we've heard when it comes to the Fox case. But here's the bottom line. The media shield law

08:33 which I am prepared to support, and I know Senator Graham supports, still leaves an unanswered question which I've raised many times. What is a journalist today in 2013? We know it's someone who works for Fox or AP, but does it include a blogger? Does it include someone who's tweeting? Are these people journalists and entitled to constitutional protection? We need to ask 21st century questions about a provision and our Constitution that was written over 200 years ago. Oh, there you go Sign for the t-shirt. I'm I tweet therefore you can kill me. This is no brother Lock me up. I have no freedom of speech

09:14 Because I'm a blogger actually is more like it was back then with bloggers The type of people that were voicing their opinions in newsletters and elsewhere. Yeah, that's in the flyers pamphlets Scandal sheets and all the rest Which was in the 1700s is very popular. There wasn't a giant conglomerate like the New York Times or the Times Corporation or any of these places. There was no radio and TV, there was none of that. It was more like bloggers. Yeah, well how come... So I mean it should be actually more applicable, not less applicable to 21st century demands. Thank you. Oh crap, this guy should be...

09:53 voted out. Why does he get voted in, this guy? He's against the Constitution, against the Bill of Rights, it sounds to me. No, he's all for the Constitution, but only if you work for Fox or AP or Reuters. If you're a blogger or a tweeter, it does not apply to you. So we have a similar situation. mentioning MSNBC I was for some reason sickly watching Martin Bashir and he had some some black professor on in crystal ball who talks like she's an alley girl. Again this the whole idea of your name being crystal ball and I guess it really is her name

10:32 It would have to be no one except a stripper would call herself crystal ball And she could be a stripper and she could be a stripper and it would be crystal balls So we have them talking about the shield law. Now we already know from a previous show because we had the right clips. Let's explain the shield law. We need to roll back. They're busting the journalists at the AP and they got this Fox guy, you know, I don't know if he's indicted yet, but he's passed on secret information. Co-conspirator. Co-conspirator. So in the process of attacking the First Amendment, Obama has come out and said,

11:15 We need a shield all these poor report. He's doing it. Yeah, we need a shield on it, which is nothing but suspicious Yeah, so he's putting a shield law together, which is the support there is The first amendment is the SHIELD law by the way. So we don't need a SHIELD law and the Republicans aren't going to vote for the SHIELD law because they think it's a waste of time anyway because it's not going to do anything. And it's already been determined that the SHIELD law would not protect the AP or anybody else because within the SHIELD law there will be a national security provision. Yeah, if it's about terrorism. or anything like that that shield law won't apply so what they're actually trying to do is institutionalize a shield law that would actually give them more power yeah can I well of course this is what I always say whenever it's all upside down so if they say oh this is for your protection then of course it's not really for your protection it's exactly the opposite maybe we should do everyone a little favor my browser's locked up the internet is just everything just sucks Dropbox was down

12:20 Well while you're doing that you can play the Bashir clip with crystal ball you can hear yeah, then they're talking about all these you know these guys revealing secrets and the rest and they because it's MSNBC which is essentially Mazel just coming out of the White House the the kind of it's I would you can't call it lying but misleading the public with this sort of chatter is amazing to me. I can't, it really makes you itch to listen to this. Honestly, this kind of transparency in the aftermath of these things is something that I'm not sure we would see under other administrations. So I hope that we get it right with the media shield law, which again, scandals are as scandals are.

13:01 Let's focus on the issues. We do need a media shield law and we do need to have this public conversation about the balance between national security and aggressive reporting and journalism. Indeed. And final question to you, Crystal. Republicans oppose a shield law. Yes. Well, and I think that speaks to Dr. Peterson. Is the guy laughing? Is someone laughing? Yes, he's laughing with kind of a sick chortle. Bashir? Yeah It's like Quentin Tarantino laughs during an interview yeah, that's that's weird. It's like back. It's really great publicans And aggressive reporting and journalism. Indeed. And final question to you, Crystal. Republicans oppose the shield law. Yes. Well, and I think that's time for the hell. No, thanks to Dr. Peterson's point, which is that if this was a Republican president who was going after leakers in an aggressive way, they would just stonewall. They would say, this is national security. This is what we need to do. There would be no dialogue

13:59 there would be no openness to change. So the fact that it's happening under this president, under a Democratic president, I think means that there will be more transparency and potentially there will be policy and legislative changes. All right, let me uh... By the way, she says change and he says let's hope so. Yeah. Hope and change. Hope and change. They slipped a meme in. Oh, very good. I like that one. Before you go on, John. This is the number one administration for bustin' whistleblowers. This is the worst group of people and they're just defending them. It just makes me itch. I need to read this for people who are not familiar with the American Constitution, which I think includes most Americans. The First Amendment is not your right to free speech. Would you agree with me, John?

14:47 I don't know where you're going. It's the same thing with the with the Second Amendment. It is not that I'm gonna read the text to you. Oh, no, it's no you don't have no it's a it's Let me read it. Let me holding the government. Thank you. It's brewing with it is it is saying exactly what they want to do it is saying you cannot do this so important we just read this and The First Amendment of the United States Constitution, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

15:36 So, it is not you have the right to free speech. This is, it's very important that you understand because this is, by the way, this will get you laid at cocktail parties big time because everyone's like, the First Amendment is about a right to free speech. No, it's not. It is actually saying that the Congress, the federal government may not make a rule against the free press. the freedom of the press and freedom of speech. In other words, the shield law is by definition unconstitutional because congress cannot make a law about the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press and this shield law it's a law. Right we always have to remember the constitution was designed to to make the government back off. Fact

16:25 And it wasn't, it's not about what powers they, it delimits their powers, it proscribes what they can and cannot do. And yeah, you're right, that's actually a very good point. This shield law is not constitutional. Completely, by definition. It's a bull crap law anyway. It's like, unfortunately that joke becomes like, yeah, the portions are so small. But it's, I don't understand. I don't understand why, well I do of course, but it is beyond me. And no one is doing this. Not on any media, any of the mainstream media. You're not seeing it. No one is saying, hold on a second, it's a law and the First Amendment says Congress shall make no law. I mean, how hard can it be? That seems pretty clear cut. Yeah.

17:19 Sorry, I mean I may not be a constitutional law professor like the president. Well that was not the most complicated thing in the world to read that. Well apparently... hey, that was... Hey, it wasn't meant to be insulting. That was uncalled for. It's that simple. So the whole conversation is mute. Mute. It's mute too. It's mute. Sorry. Not only am I not a constitutional law professor, I can barely speak English. Alright, what's the second clip? Anyway, they listen to these people and the Durbin thing is like ludicrous. I mean, these guys don't care about anything but their welfare, their personal welfare. What's your second Bashir thing you got here? What's this? This is a WTF bumper. So they're playing out with a clip from an old movie about Nixon.

18:18 Kingsman I from his name of that movie that all the president all the president all the president's men. Yeah, that's it So they're playing out with a clip from that's Obama's movie all the Kingsmen So anyway, they're playing out and then they go to their bumper and then they go to a commercial and the bumper has nothing to do with anything but it Get it got my attention Attorney General the highest-ranking law enforcement officer in this country is a crook Just be sure you're right. House rule number 53. Big time taste should fit in a little time cut. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. So that was also old footage? No, the thing at the end was a commercial. No, but the 33 song.

19:21 Here's what they played, they played the old footage from the movie and then they shot a picture of the White House and their bumper was that music. What? Yeah, and they played out and then they went to a commercial that said 53, which I think was just a coincidence. But what does that music have to do with anything? Wow. Wow. Nothing. Nothing to see here. Don't worry about it. It's nothing, John. Just ignore it. And whenever you hear that music, that means nothing's happening. Nothing's happening. Wow. That is nuts. So, I don't know. Something's happening. Wow. Yeah, wow. Okay, let's just stick on the conspiracy theorem for a moment.

20:16 So when we heard that they had shot and killed one of the Snaref brothers in Florida, Immediately, you know this on the heels of two of the SWAT team members who were involved in capturing the so-called Boston bombers who Killed I'm sorry who died jumping out and pushing whatever falling out of a helicopter And then by the way, have you seen this kids in the from from from Florida? Yeah, it's Kevin Rose. Oh

20:54 I'm telling you, it's Kevin Rose. They just took Kevin Rose's picture and here it is. Here this morning from the Washington Post, a friend of Boston suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed during questioning, was reportedly unarmed. Law enforcement originally told reporters that Ibrahim Todeshev, quote, went crazy and stabbed an FBI agent with a knife. Yeah, and then so now this morning just came out, they got pictures, his father held a news conference and they had a kill shot to the top of the head. Six to the body, one to the top of the head. Okay, but I'm just a conspiracy theorist, obviously. Obviously.

21:33 maybe not what do you have okay there's a great article in the Atlantic somebody sent it to us and it goes on with the timeline you're talking about conspiracy there's where the story changes and changes he's got it who's lunging for a samurai sword coming at him with a knife he overturned a table and threw a chair at him there was all these every story is different the cops were there the cops weren't there nobody witnessed this thought two guys witnessed it no nobody witnessed it It's like the whole thing is a fiasco. This was a hit. You're just a conspiracy theorist. I mean, it's impossible. There were so many people involved. How could they hide that from the media? All they have to do is tell the media. Yeah. So last night, a couple of things happened. First of all, I'm all alone here. Miss Mickey has been gone since Sunday. Yeah, and you know what? It sucks. I'm lonely. I really am lonely. Yeah, I'm a little lonely. How do you do it? Well, you got kids. Easy.

22:29 Maybe it's after you've been married for a little bit longer. I don't know So I'm very lonely and miss Mickey is doing great her show is tomorrow And you know she's got all kinds of she's like living it up living it up in Europe. We're having a great tries to get back yeah, and so There's two things. I want to watch one is on PBS and was hyped all week on NPR because of course, you know, Miss Mickey normally will does the NPR scanning She'll tell me what bullcrap that promotion I did besides making breakfast and all that now I got to do the listen to NPR as well and to the promoting this manhunt manhunt how technology was involved and was responsible for finding the Boston Bombers and

23:15 I'm like, wow, I gotta watch this. So I recorded it because of course the first thing I had to watch by request was Beyond the Candelabra. You actually asked me if I'd watched that. I was like, why is he asking? There must be some reason for this. There must be something really important about this movie. You know what, John? Fuck you. That's two hours of my life gone for good. That was the most I mean it was the most senseless. It was painful. Did you watch it? Well, it took me three viewings and because I got it was I was morbidly curious because it was a piece of crap It was the absolute it was there was no reason for it Everything was my theory is hmm my conspiracy theory

24:08 I believe after watching the movie yeah that that Michael Douglas when he maybe when I was younger or maybe his dad Introduced him to Liberace at some point oh, and I think Liberace either tried something or did something or or somehow offended This is his way of getting back at him posthumously. This is a this is a This is not a complimentary portrayal in any sense. He's a perv, bald pervert. who is just played up as not only a bald pervert but a backstabber, a creep. This is the worst, I mean if this is his legacy embodied in this movie, Michael Douglas got back whatever justice he felt necessary to do. There's something behind this story. I totally agree and although the gratuitous ass shots of Matt, what's his name? Ed Damon. Matt Damon, I mean, alright.

25:07 Nice nice, but Matt. Thank you after the tenth time I've seen you getting out of the hot loves his butt Love showing his butt with his little with his little tan line the thing that really bothered me About this and it kind of dawned on me as you know as everyone knows I think you know I'm completely bi curious the it's one thing it's one thing to be bisexual or and I have to say homosexual male homosexual and And but the the whole thing that certain of course this was a period piece set in the 70s and all the way through the mid 80s but the the whole Just the whole the way gay guys act in this it's just it's like it's annoying It's like you know, it seems like it's more than just a sexual thing. It's like a whole lifestyle That is just tiring You know what? I mean? She's it's tiring just kind of fit into this group. I

26:06 I'm bi-curious but I can't get into the whole, I can't get into that. It's like what? And I know a lot of gay guys who are not like that. They're just gay. I think most of them are. Thank you. But whatever is portrayed on television, certainly in this case, it's just like, really one of those again? So it was, and then at the end where, you know, where it's like Liberace dies and you're right, because that was the tell, the giveaway. It's like they would not let him cover the fact up that he died of AIDS. Right that was like the big thing at the end there so anyway so anyway Thank you for ruining two hours of my life. Oh, you loved it, and I tried to get it back with it. Yeah I was really pissed off. I was mad. I'm like this is anyway, so I watched this manhunt on PBS and of course the whole thing from beginning to end is a promotion for

27:08 facial recognition for the Microsoft it's basically a Microsoft promotion although they connect well connect is a part of it because they Microsoft has built the whole New York domain system what do they call that they call it the What is it called John Holmes in New York like a domain of awareness or? Dome of silence. No, no, come on help me. I don't know. I don't know anything. I have no idea what you're talking about. This is the most advanced domain awareness. There you go. Domain awareness. It is the it is touted as the most advanced system. Microsoft in New York City went to London and they looked at their system. They're like

27:51 Bitch, we can do better than that. And then they went to New York and they built this system which they showed. I mean it's very impressive, all kinds of monitors. You want someone who is wearing red, we can find him in two seconds anywhere. I swear to God, John, that's what this was about. The whole thing was promoting. Now I feel like I should go see that if they show it again. Well, you're going to want to see it because what's interesting is it's sold as how technology helped find the Boston bombers and then almost at the beginning it's like Well, we really couldn't recognize their faces. We didn't have any videos. So it was really sheer luck that we got this. And it was interesting that they... Why didn't they change the title to How Technology Didn't Help? That's what it should have been. But then of course, Microsoft will do all of it for you. And the Kinect is definitely a part of that. It makes so much sense. You might as well. Because what they had to do in the Boston bombing, so this documentary touts,

28:52 is they had to go to every single business on Boylston Street to get their video of their camera. And by the way, they got it and they took it, right? So there's also no evidence left because they basically have all the, I guess, files. I don't know if it's If it's a lot of it's on CD-ROMs. I don't know if there's any you know what they do with the original material But of course I'm watching this for one reason for one reason only because I want to see the video where they see the guys Putting their backpacks down and then walking away because that that is what we've been told there's video they put and we've seen and this is an hour-long show and

29:33 And we've got video and pictures and it's flying and it's zoom and hands rotate. Everything's going just like CSI. And then this. From there, within a day or so, we identified an individual who was very suspicious. He appeared to have a package with him. He put the package down and we realized that this is most likely the bomb. Police say it's a smoking gun video that has not been publicly released. It shows a young man with a baseball cap worn backwards, leaving a backpack on the sidewalk not far from the second detonation site. Now let me just stop here, because this is all you needed to hear. First of all, it's the smoking gun evidence that we once again are not able to see. We've seen everything else, but not the smoking, the actual evidence we deserve to see

30:29 not being shown because I don't know Muslims will riot and it will put our troops in danger I mean I don't know why they're not showing it I know whether you do know why of course because it doesn't exist right but we're now being told once again with the voiceover the giant voice system is telling you so it's now being cemented into your mind but did you catch what he said about the backpack No, I mean, I know okay. I heard him talk about it, but I don't listen again It's a smoking gun video that has not been publicly released It shows a young man with a baseball cap worn backwards Leaving a backpack on the sidewalk not far from the second detonation site. Well, hold on a second. I

31:18 Leaving a backpack on the sidewalk not far from the second detonation site? Well then it wasn't the- then it didn't detonate, did it? Oh that's interesting. Are you kidding me? If it's not far from the detonation site, then it's not the detonation site! No! Not the way they said it. No! Maybe by the way, here's this- listen to this- now again, what if this was actually done to tell people exactly what you observed. In other words, what can we do to let people know that this is bullcrap? Oh, that's interesting. See, oh, okay. So let's, because they won't show us the video, so let's just put something in here that's a signal to the people who are paying attention. Huh. How's that for a possibility? Yeah, no, totally possible. Let's listen to it again. You put the package down and we realize that this is most likely the bomb.

32:15 Police say it's a smoking gun video that has not been publicly released. It shows a young man with a baseball cap worn backwards. Leaving a backpack on the sidewalk not far from the second detonation site where two people died It's not exactly clear that it's a backpack initially, but later You know you clearly see where he placed it how he placed it there And then how he walked away from the scene after the first detonation and then you see the second detonation occur It seemed like it was well rehearsed They focus on finding more images of the white hat suspect and before long he leads them to another man wearing a black hat It's so contrived Let me see who Who produced this broadcast credits? Let's see Mile produce and directed by because it could be you could be right Miles O'Brien

33:20 Let's see the guy and wasn't he the engineer on the Star Trek next generation Scotty Miles Miles of our own producer. Let's see what else he's done. Yeah, it could be here Can you look down the LinkedIn? Yeah, because I don't have an account See you got the Facebook. I got the LinkedIn. Yeah, I'm looking at the Wikipedia's Ryan oh interesting he started CNN's chief technology and environment correspondent and The network's space and aviation correspondent, occasionally standing anchored. He anchored the Situation Room in 2008, covered the terrorist attack in Mumbai, the Taj Mahal. He looks like a typical producer. Oh, dude! Dude! Dude! He is in a relationship with Zanny Jardin. Oh, that's interesting. That's obscure.

34:24 and it's funny because she was promoting it boing boing and uh... shocker now but that's very good so it was her boyfriend's production let me see if she would have to say not have to disclose that wouldn't she it's that is the top hit if you look for manhunt pbc no wonder that the the rendition he used to be out here k q t or no k q t v never mind see this guy's a lawmakers use we nbc PBS, blah blah blah. For the past few weeks I've been in Boston hanging out. Science Monitor, CNN, NASA. Hold on a second, this is interesting. This is Zenny's...

35:05 For the past few weeks I've been in Boston hanging out at WGBHS. Miles O'Brien and the PBS science program NOVA worked to put together this documentary on the science and technology inside the Boston bombing manhunt and investigation. It airs tonight and is pretty phenomenal. Manhunt Boston Bombers premieres Wednesday, May 29th. Check local listings. Let me see if we scroll down here. It's talking about the world of terrorism. Boing Boing, editor, partner, tech, Jenny Jargen, host and producers, breast cancer, and I'm sucking his cock. Yes, there it is. It says right there, John. Yeah. She disclosed it. Not. Where'd you get that? Oh. I'm reading from Boing Boing. She should have disclosed that. I think that's really bad.

35:53 If she's seeing him or dating him. Well, she's saying for the past few weeks that she was actually with him in Boston as Miles O'Brien and Nova have been putting the documentary together. So she should say, you know, because we're in a relationship. Yeah, she should. That would be the proper thing. I don't give a crap, but it would be the proper thing. No, I don't give a crap either, but it would be more... More appropriate. More transparent. But it doesn't matter because maybe Miles is a good guy. And that's why he put that in. I like it. I like it. I think that's... But we're just making assumptions. We may be reading more into it. Well, I'm sorry. When you don't show the video and you say, it was put near the blast site. It's not the blast site. There's no two ways to view that piece of information. Yeah, no, I think you're right.

36:48 All right, let's thank some... Oh, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak. Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry, and in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the knights and dames out there. Indeed. And to our producers, human resources in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, nice to have you all lined up, ready to go. Depleting your 9.2 million dollar valuation in the morning to all of the artists and thank you Melissa Schultz Jones for the artwork for episode 516 no gender art generator commas where you can find all of the art that has been generated for each individual episode Although only one can be chosen. They're all great and we often go back and use them as evergreens or for the newsletter, etc So thank you so much

37:36 And we only have a couple people to thank because I, you know, we had a short week and it's reflected in our numbers. I think it was a shitty newsletter. Oh, okay. It was different. It had actual news. Yeah, I know. We probably shouldn't put any news in the newsletter. That's clearly a mistake. I was actually, wow, this is really good. And I even added like the European stuff. We collaborated back and forth on the newsletter and there you go. So we have Sir Random Hillbilly who's executive producer for show 517-33333. I don't choose what show I send money to, it's more when I can shift money around to pay you before the IRS sees it. Good for you Random Hillbilly. Good work, thank you. Sir Chris Wolf in Mooresville, Indiana, 233.33. He'll be the associate executive producer for show 517. Payment toward my smoking hot milfs damehood.

38:33 Birthday present of myself May 30th. Do we have that on there? I hope so I would have it I have it on the printout, but I can't read the printout because it's in in portrait Landscape mode whatever and for some reason instead of putting it up at full size it went down to two-point type I believe I yeah, it's on there. I get the magnifying glass I could do it. It's on there birthday present myself. What a night. What's a night without a dame? Just a pre boner oh And May is masturbation month. ITM, is it really? Yes, May is masturbation month. Everyone knows that. Okay. Sir Chris Wolf of StuffAintRight.com. I don't know what that means. Excellent. Well, that reminds people that we do have a show coming up on Sunday. We need to make up for this crappy day. StuffAintRight.com is actually quite good.

39:29 It shows up on the news network all the time, so I know he's put his RSS feed in there. Yeah, stuffaintright.com. And go to dvorek.org slash nachanneldvorek.com slash nanojennashow.com and nojennanation.com. Click on the donate button and help us out for the show 518 coming up. Well, not just help us out, but give us some value here. I mean, my God, we're really working it for you. Yeah, most people said their last couple of months of shows have been dynamite. I agree. I think we've been running at a fever pitch for some reason. I think we finally got in the groove. I will attribute at least 60% of that to you. Yeah. You've somehow stepped up your game to an...

40:21 Yeah, a good level. You've got some good stuff. Yeah, you used to phone it in. Yeah Well, thank you so much these are real credits and of course we still need to go out and propagate We go out we hit people in the mouth Yeah, tell them what to do there, slaves. Just got a quick couple of PR mentions I wanted to get out of the way. First of all, I want to send some karma to Black Knight George from Bouncing Hill in Gitmo Nation Lowlands. He has a lung embolism, which sucks. So he's in the hospital. This is where you go, uh-uh. So we'll send some karma out to him.

41:21 You've got karma. When you got a black knight down, you gotta step right in. In the show notes under the PR section, you'll see a great video of one of our producers, producer Dodge in Pensacola, I think. Was that the big Monsanto demonstration down there? The one that was barely covered? Yeah, well, there was a video and he's walking around with a big no agenda sign, which made it onto the local news. We like that. That's good. I need more of that. And even though this is below the typical mentioning level, I wanted to read this note. I got in and out. It's weird.

42:01 So I'm not quite sure how this happened, but a box showed up the day before yesterday, which had gone to the old address here in Austin and hadn't been, the postal service is great. Of course, they're like, Oh, just, I'll just bring it over here. Somehow they figured it out. But of course we have, we have producers working at the post office. So it showed up and it's a very heavy box and it has a note and in the note, there's 33 individual dollars. Magic number here, and it says hello, Mr. Adam Curry, and it's just plain paper printed in portrait mode My name is Keegan Sullivan. I am 16 in high school and an amateur metal worker I have sent you these no agenda nail clippers for your opinion and approval, please Please keep in mind. They are just a prototype proof of concept They don't have any paint polish or fine cleaning if you and or Mr. Dvorak would like a high-quality unit

42:58 I'll be glad to make them free of charge. Thank you for your time. Please go John to clippers.curry.com to have a look at what our producer Keegan has produced. Clippers.curry.com. Okay. Hang on a second. Go before the chat room crashes the site. You got it? What? It's coming. Holy crap!

43:39 It would be good for cutting a lock off a thing. Cutting your finger off. How awesome is that? And it works too. It works for what? It just functions. The mechanics function. Oh yeah, I'm sure they do. I think this would be an outstanding product. What do you think? Yeah. Way to get out of if somebody's chained you to a fence. I really loved it Keegan. Thank you very much and thank you for your contribution to the knowage of the show. And I also want to thank producer Mike who dropped by and he actually took me out. People are really nice like oh he's so lonely I had to take him out. I went to see a guy play fiddle but he made me some some actual mead. Oh mead. Mutton and mead? Yeah well not the mutton part but I didn't even know what mead was until I drank it.

44:31 No, I didn't. I didn't realize it was in England. They drink mead by the gallons. I didn't know I've never had it. I did not it's an actual alcoholic beverage Yeah, it's actually good if it's done right so he did it in the With honey, that's what they usually do water, and he said he cheated he put a little champagne yeast in yeah That's what you'd have to do, but it really oh my god. It was really good. We got messed up on it, too Good work. It's not like you're that lonely. Getting drunk on mead with locals. With dudes. This may not be a good thing. Hey, by the way, I want to remind people that, you know, we even though we came up short that you do have alternatives and we're going to be very generous with this information. There's other podcasts out there that you might want to listen to once in a while. And then you compare it to what we do on our show. We have a little clip from one of them right here. Okay.

45:27 Well, Eric, we're live. That's definitely not something you want to hear right when you're live. We're live. That's nice. How's the lag this evening? I was thinking about a couple seconds, I think. Yeah, not bad, not bad. I'll just pause and we'll have a gentlemanly conversation. Yeah, you know what? We make it look easy, John. This is what people forget. They just show up and they just talk for a couple hours and bullcrap back and forth play some new clips Talk some conspiracy theories. Yeah, well there you go. There's an element of that well like Right now right now is an element, but it's no that's not what we do um no we perform a function so yeah, we do and it's funny because we're kind of against the I mean we've both been in broadcasting, but the broadcasters seem to be in a panic mode and

46:32 And now, that's the first time I've ever seen a PSA from the National Association of Broadcasters with a bullcrap message because we've had these studies, we've run through them, the broadcast news people have a very poor reputation amongst the public. Most people think that, I think 33% of them don't think they're full of crap. Did you really just throw out the magic number? Yeah, I did. Here is their PSA. In times of joy, in moments of grief, we are there. When the world looks for truth, broadcasters come through, even when all else fails. Today, with more ways than ever to experience the moments that transform our lives, Americans still choose broadcast television and radio more than all other media combined.

47:29 Television and radio are still the most trusted sources for news and entertainment. And our web and social sites are among the most visited sites in our daily lives. When important moments happen, both big and small, we're the first informers to history. We are the pioneers, the innovators, the local broadcasters of radio and television. Reaching more people. Touching more lives. Oh man. That's what I said. Wow. And first of all, we know it's not true because we know when panic strikes, when you want to know what's going on, we know that it's the ham radio operators that everyone turns to. I mean, that's obvious. Yeah, where's their PSA?

48:13 We need to do one. We should do a PSA for the ham radio operators. Well, we just lost a huge piece of lobbying. The ARRL lobbied for certain Notching filters to be enhanced on Broadband over power lines, which of course is going to ruin it's going to ruin ham radio. Yeah I know it's a known fact. It's going to be really bad But this is this is very interesting because you're so right This is what you do when you're in panic mode and they are in panic mode I mean NBC just cancelled they cancelled broadcast essentially in my favorite so shows Actually the shows I like smash

48:59 I They start off great with all kinds of Broadway musical dancing and singing and that became became more and more drama It's like that was because they fired the the show's creator. Oh really I didn't even know that yeah No, the show's creator. They fired her because she was doing too much bullcrap dancing and singing I guess But she also ran it the storyline was long all long long arc so it which they don't like it NBC They all want short arc. I don't like it either

49:37 You don't like long arc? No, it's unnecessary. Not with a... I just want... But I know, but that's what she was doing. She had a long arc with a lot of dancing and singing. So it was really kind of a... Well, it was also a show about writers. This is the problem. It was about writers of the Broadway shows, you know. So it was... Yeah, well, whatever the case was, they got rid of her and they put a new person in with a different vision. And now you get what you wanted. A short arc. And then there was the Matthew Perry show. I watched that which is about you know I didn't even know there was a Matthew Perry show it was it was called go on and it was it was very good It was about a bunch of insane insane people at a insane people talk group It was good. That should have been funny. It was funny, and he's never you saw a promo for it now anyway, but so but the point is if you look at the ratings except for the voice

50:26 Everything else just pales in comparison and you know, there's just it's they they're barely making money Which of course is what I spoke to my buddy Matthew Lesher super agent Lesher who? Has like 20 clients you've never heard of they're all on these like pretty little liars all these and I've known him for 25 years and he says it's such bullcrap everyone is freaking out in Hollywood because why because If you say Mad Men, everybody you know will go, oh I love that show, right? Pretty much. No one watches it, John. That doesn't surprise me. Not even a million viewers per episode and Duck Dynasty gets 10 million. So it's obvious where television goes. It's about making money. And Mad Men, it costs more than a million an episode to make.

51:22 It really does. They're just not making the money on it. So now it's a lost leader and everyone's like, oh yes, no I love it. What would Don Draper do? Oh yeah. You're not watching the show people, you're full of crap. You're lying. You may be torrenting it or something like that. It's not making its money. So it's clear, you know, the only show that really is hot, and by the way, they are going to screw this up. The Voice will get screwed up too. Right now they've turned it into you know basically It's a it's a variety. It's a huge Musical show it's like a concert, but they're taking it too far I can see they've got stylists in and they're over styling these people They're gonna mess it up that you can put that on NBC. They're bound to miss of course Yeah, I can see the stylist and they're all wearing the same type of jewelry, and I see these things I don't know maybe I've been in this world a long time and

52:15 But it is so true that people are just walking away from it because inherently they feel it. They're cutting the cable, they're coming to... You know what? Even though that podcast that is an alternative to what we play... What podcast was that, the one we just played? I forgot. Oh, that's not nice. I'm not gonna badmouth the guy and then mention his name. Well, then you're no better than that Kevin Smith. Okay, it was... I think, I think, the problem is I didn't write down the name. No, that's not... I think it's Attack of the Android. Okay. But, you know, it's like if we're gonna make fun of someone's podcast, at least let's promote him.

52:51 Attack of the yeah, well what do you mean that we bitched about Kevin Smith doing that yeah? We did so this night, so let's not let's be cool. Okay. Well go to attack of the androids. It's about Android It's a literally a show that discusses the latest builds. Well. That's kind of cool. Well. Yeah, I guess just Let me give you a little tip people little tip of the from the pod father here when you when you have a podcast get right into it and Alright, don't do an opening theme song of two minutes. This is so there's a couple I had I clipped that were I was gonna use as the ridicule clip It's not it's not ridicule. It's an alternative is the alternative clip, but it was the theme song was like five minutes It's so stupid. This is goes on and on and on with these song. Yeah, I just love a line and there was another one there's a there's a podcast which I

53:49 Wanted to clip which is the it's another pagan podcast and should check that out hmm And they have a they play a full song of some sort illegally I might add yeah, I'm sure I'm not well whatever Okay, yeah, they'll play some whole song and then they stand then they yak amongst themselves about the song and then who's not there this week and they start bitching about pagans. I mean they start bitching about people who hate pagans. So my, without a doubt, my hobby, my passion outside of this program is high frequency radio transceivers and antennas. I'm really into it, God knows why. There's something going on that I'm being pushed by the universe into this. So I go looking for podcasts.

54:35 Because you know, I don't know I had something to do with that and it's like oh this could be great because you know You're not gonna find this on NBC Discovery Channel that doesn't you have like a thing? Yeah, maybe a ridicule. So there's all these podcasts Linux in the ham shack ham nation Ham Radio Today and let me tell you something. They all suck balls every single one of them. It's horrible. I And people think that it's fun. It's not fun to listen to you talk bullcrap about yourself for an hour before you get into what it's really about. What the point of your show is about. I mean, yeah. Unless you have a show that's about talking bullcrap. Well, okay, then that's good. But get into it. And you might want to consider when you do it, get a chat room who can sit there and yell at you. As far as annoying as it is, it works.

55:30 Yeah, I think the chat room is valuable. Even though I'm sorry I said that. Wow, hold on, let me pick myself up off the floor. It's valuable. Alright, now let's have a little fun here because this was just about the funniest thing that I read. So Robert Mueller, who... Has he quit yet? So he wants to quit and I think, now let's look, so he's the current director of the FBI. And right and we let's do it for a little background since we're doing background today We should mention that he that the FBI after J. Edgar Hoover Basically took over the place and created a sort of secret police. Yes, they passed legislation that said no you can't be in and I don't remember 10 years I think it's four years. You can't be the director for more than just a very short time. No no I know I think it was like eight years. Let me see director Well Mueller has been

56:27 extended for like 13 years, 12 years. So he was in for 12 years that they extended him which is not the point the point was that you got this limit because you can become the head you could become the head of the Stasi the secret police if you stay there too long because you know where too many bodies are buried and we bitched and moaned about this when when when the when Congress just said yeah now that's a good idea you know he's doing a really good job with she knows the ropes he knows he knows that you know he knows what he knows we're all the bodies are buried that's what that's what's so obvious so and he was instated mind you three months before September 11th 2001 all of this like just very coincidental stuff so he was he was brought in

57:14 Then of course we have 9-11 and then all just all this stuff all the way up to the Boston bombing that the F and Face the FBI has been running honey pot honey traps for years So anyway, so now he's finally tired or it's getting too hot for him or whatever. So he wants to get out so the president decides to do something very bold but hilarious and He decides to nominate a former Bush official who was assistant attorney general during Bush, W. Bush, and he's also a Republican and he wants him to be the next FBI director. And his name is James Comey, C-O-M-E-Y, James B. Comey. So I'm looking into this guy's history and it's like, it couldn't be any funnier. It really couldn't be.

58:13 So, first of all, this is the guy who takes credit for busting and convicting Martha Stewart. Yeah, okay. That's the guy. Wow, what a coup. But check this out. In early 2013, he left Bridgewater to become Senior Research Scholar and Hertog Fellow, which is a great title by the way. on national security law at Columbia Law School. He also joined the London-based board of directors at HSBC. Which is the bank that has been money laundering drug money for years. Yes, that's the money laundering, the big one. So it is the money launderer. He's on the board of directors and now he's going to be the FBI director? Are you shitting me?

59:11 I mean, is this like some... Is this some joke? Like we can't even read Wikipedia? Like we don't get what's going on here? That's bad. It's horrendous! It's atrocious. You think Obama could find somebody that didn't have these connections? No, no, but he's not looking for it. This is what he's doing. This is intentional. There is no other way to look at it. Okay, so let's see. Oh, by the way, let's look really tough for a moment and do this. Arrested as he was about to board a flight to Costa Rica, the alleged mastermind of a massive online money laundering operation. Ukrainian born Arthur Budovsky is one of seven people charged by US prosecutors.

1:00:00 Together it's claimed they ran a company called Liberty Reserve, a digital currency exchange which became the bank of choice for the criminal underworld. No, I'm sorry, the bank of choice for the criminal underworld is HSBC. It's not Liberty Reserve. No, if you notice this, we saw this on the, I think, the last show or the show before, that like, and I have some clips, some more clips about this because there's been a lot of hearings on this over the last week or two. where anyone running guns to anyone other than the Sinaloa cartel was arrested. Yeah! It's like, no, if you run to the Sinaloa, that's good. Because we're controlling all this. It's like we're the master mobsters of the country itself. You got to back up. So I explained the HSBC drug laundering deal and now we have a board of director member

1:00:53 It was more powerful often than the chief executive officer is the board of directors. He's becoming the main guy responsible for stopping money laundering and etc. into the United States. He's becoming the director of the FBI. Now go back and explain what we're talking about with this NOLA cartel. Okay, well the Sinaloa cartel we've got to document it was in one of the newsletters actually Whereas they busted some guy that they couldn't seem to get out of this bus And he says gonna spill the beans on the whole scam which was the the fast and furious initiative by the Justice Department to Essentially he says to arm the Sinaloa cartel To the point where they can beat the other guys up and they and then that we only have one

1:01:45 group of gangsters to deal with and we can work with one, we can't work with ten. To do business with. So let's play a couple of clips here. Yeah, please. That have to do with this. For one thing, I didn't realize the AK-47 numbers were what they were. So let's start with gun walking in Mexico, AK-47 numbers clip. There has been a worsening general perception of US operations in Mexico. A turning point for Mexican public opinion about US helping the war on drugs occurred after a whistleblower uncovered the so-called fast and furious operation carried out by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives between 2006 and 2011, which allowed more than 2,000 AK-47 weapons to walk into Mexico to try to arrest Kingpins. This operation unraveled after the tragic death due to one of these weapons of a US Border Patrol agent.

1:02:37 The Mexican Attorney General has confirmed that some of these weapons have been recovered in crime scenes where at least 150 Mexicans were maimed or lost their lives. But few officials have either from the US or Mexico even blinked an eye. As of February 2012, more than a thousand of these weapons remained walking around Mexico. So we're become gun runners apparently our country or our executives. So but there's a lot of stories that I got from this guy. This guy's a professor at I think he's at John Hopkins or one of the schools I'd have his name somewhere but anyway he's giving testimony before Congress

1:03:18 And he had two horrendous stories that I never heard of either one of these situations. But it's like, I want you to play clip two and tell me if you knew about this. Of suspects or civilians. Meanwhile, criminal gangs have fragmented. They have diversified their criminal portfolios and drawn much of their income from. Yeah, it says. Guns walking too? Did we know about this? No, I'm sorry. My mistake, right. My mistake. Here it comes. Another incident that acted as a significant eye-opener for both Mexican society and the US government was the ambush of a US vehicle with diplomatic plates. Yeah, we remember this. We talked about this. It was crazy. Carrying two CIA agents which came under attack by Mexican federal police forces.

1:04:07 In addition, President Calderón allowed US unmanned planes to operate in Mexican territory without even most of his close collaborators knowing about this. For many, Calderón's strategy had gone berserk and as a consequence there was a significant public opinion backlash against the no-strings-attached access given to US law enforcement, intelligence and military forces. So kind of an odd way it's like there's a weird war going on with Mexico in Mexico between different kinds of factions in Mexico itself Yeah, it's very strange and and and the thing that really gets me and I want everyone to listen to this next clip Which is number three the horror story. Can I just say may interject for one second because something happened to me? I just want to say it now before I forget though. I

1:05:00 Can't remember what it was either when I saw your clip list come in or something happened this morning And I had this really faint notion I've learned to listen to it that somehow all of these things are going to get tied together And I'm talking about this, but I'm also talking about Newtown, Connecticut Remember these were Germans come up from Mexico. I just I had I just wanted to mention it I had this like weird thing that there is so much more connected than we can even figure out and now we get this director from HSBC There's something big going on that maybe we just haven't seen the full picture yet. I just want to put it out there I think we're slowly getting there. Yeah, so that this is a reason that I'm just gonna say this This is a this next clip is the reason I don't think that

1:05:50 personally that anyone should go to Mexico over the next few years on a vacation. This is clip 3? Yes, it says... Point number 3. It is my view that it is right that lowering the levels of violence, official impunity and homicides has become the Mexican government's top priority. My own position, after having heard many family, friends, working colleagues, acquaintances scattered around my country, from Mexico City to Morelos to Michoacan to Jalisco to Coahuila to Nuevo León, is that everyday living conditions during the last six years have deteriorated significantly. Extortion, almost unheard of among the backbone of middle class in Mexico, doctors, lawyers, economists, engineers, has become endemic in the last few years.

1:06:38 A case that helps to illustrate the climate of intimidation that society is under, given the collusion between drug trading organizations and high-ranking members of local, state, federal governments and police and military offices, occurred to someone my family knows well. The individual in question is a prestigious heart surgeon who is well known for his involvement with good causes in his city. A military platoon was sent to take over his house without a search warrant. His crime His daughter's mother-in-law was a state attorney general who resigned and threatened to go public about systematic corruption and close links between the military stationed in the area and the drug trafficking organizations. The military ransacked, robbed, destroyed and defecated in the doctor's house. The doctor, an influential individual in the city, went to see the general in charge of the garrison stationed there.

1:07:31 I will poop in your house! Thank you very much. Mickey keeps trying to get me to want to go to Mexico. I'm like, no, I don't think it's a good idea. Play that clip to her. Don't worry, she heard it. She heard it. That's very good. So we have the, now after he spoke, another guy came up to give a rundown of the situation. And this is the other guy and the winner is Clip. This kind of like, this would brighten me up, make me get all these clips because this again brings back home what that guy's going through in Chicago, what he threatens to blow the whistle on. It is right here. Of suspects or civilians.

1:08:19 Meanwhile, criminal gangs have fragmented. They have diversified their criminal portfolios and draw much of their income from local revenue sources such as drug peddling in the increasingly large local drug market. I love how it's a business. This is like, I love all the business terms that are, you know, they've got advertising budgets, direct marketing, you know, PR people. Extortion, kidnapping, theft, and other activities. The most formidable of these organizations is known as the CETAS, a military-minded group that is focused on controlling physical territory and has a wide portfolio of activities. It has also grown exponentially during the last few years. Because its revenues come from local criminal activities that can be practiced anywhere and by virtually anyone, the CETAS have created the ultimate democratic model of organized crime.

1:09:16 It is a model that can be easily replicated across Mexico and is therefore inherently vulnerable to suffering internal splits itself. Perhaps the most enigmatic example of these challenges that the Mexican government faces and during the last five years of its time is Ciudad Juarez. Between 2007 and 2011 this city went from about 300 homicides per year to over 3,500 per year. The astounding spike in violence during that period has been matched only by the surprisingly precipitous drop in homicides, which is back down to about one per day.

1:09:53 There are many ways to explain this drop in violence. The most cited explanation is that in the war between the two largest criminal groups in the area, one became the winner. The Sinaloa Cartel. In this narrative, this criminal group is maintaining order in the underworld. Something that seems like an oxymoron and hardly sustainable. Yep, exactly. That's our boys! Good work! Go team S! Do they have one murder a day now down from ten? Yeah, that's good. It's good. Well. We did we do good work our Attorney general and the boys meanwhile well You know if I just glance over at the CNN's right now at this very moment They're playing this authority say Disneyland employee has been arrested on suspicion of putting a so-called dry ice box

1:10:42 in a trash can where it exploded yesterday. Police say 22 year old Christian Barnes was arrested. Oh shit. Dry ice bomb. Barnes worked as an outdoor vendor for Disneyland and is being held on a million dollars bail. Million dollars bail? Police say Barnes placed dry ice inside a water bottle in the trash can as a way to create the blast. The blast. The blast. Are you kidding me? This is from when I was a kid. I got an email from someone and it was so... This is how pathetic we've become. And why doesn't somebody at CNN say this is stupid? Because, well, you know the answer to that because and this is what people are seeing. It's like you, this, it's the same people who run the Sinaloa cartel deals run the media. It's the same people. It's the same people.

1:11:37 It's the same corporate, you know, this is... I was listening, there's this whistleblower from the World Bank. I must say, I was... it was brought... she was brought to my attention, um, because she was a guest on the Alex Jones show. And... and I don't like promoting him because, you know, he's a seed seller. It was quite funny actually. So she's at the World Bank and she has been blowing the whistle since I think 2006. She's probably out of breath. Yeah, let me write that down. That was a good one. That was 1-12.

1:12:17 And so she got fired. She was the top economist inside the World Bank. And she says, look, you know, the whole thing, it's corrupt and we probably will not be allowed to choose the president of the World Bank by 2010 if we keep on going like this. And of course, that came true. We no longer choose the president of the World Bank. But the World Bank is a part of the global financial system of really of the New World Order, if that's what you want to call it. And it was pretty interesting because she said a couple of things. One. Is that the global corporation really does exist through directorships? And I saw this on a smaller scale in Gitmo lowlands when I was in the Netherlands where everybody's on each other's board and because and we have that, you know, we've seen it too, John, you and I have seen this personally. But when you really look at the scale of like an HSBC,

1:13:07 And now we got one of the boys, you know, our boy is going to be running the FBI. You know, it's not hard to see how the criminal activity takes place at this high, high level. And she was really good because what I liked about what she was saying was that at this point Europe is completely screwed because they've given up all their sovereignty to Brussels, but America is doing quite well because we have all our local governments and we're just not, at the end of the day, maybe California, but we're not going to take the crap from the federal government. And right now, all the Federales are trying to do is control their own demise to make the landing as soft as possible because it is coming apart at the seams and part of that is what we do and I'll give other shows like that some props as well what was funny at the very end of that segment and she and... what was her name? Hudas I think Karen Hudas let me just check she has a website with all her documents and

1:14:08 Let me just check. I think it's Huttus. Maybe not. I'll look it up. At the very end, she's saying, but it's okay because we're going to be okay. Yeah, we're going to go through a rough period, but there's not going to be any killing. The federal government is not going to come shooting everybody. We're not going to have to begin the gunfights. And it was funny because Alex Jones' head I thought was going to explode. He couldn't. He was like, yeah, but- You can't sell seeds. He was like, yeah, but- Lady. We're in a war. We're in a war. It's an info war. It's a war. They're going to come for our gun. We're going to blow up. Let's go to a commercial.

1:14:47 By seeds by guns by storable food by some water filters and it but it was really funny that way because I was like wow this woman is actually saying something really smart and like you know some producer got fired over that interview because she was she was actually really quite good and this is this is really what's happening and I really do the a Hughes net so kilo alpha hotel uniform Delta Echo Sierra dot net and her website has all these documents and About the World Bank and everything. It's all PDF stuff. It's interesting very interesting story, and of course, she's been completely marginalized and you know, it's like yeah, you can't win no, no, you can't you can't but I

1:15:37 That is kind of what I like, is because people's minds are changing and it's still gonna take a long time. And just, we are in a huge reality show. And there will be contestants voted off the island. I'm very sorry. A lot of you are gonna have to go. And I don't know where you're gonna go, but you fall off. And it's not you listening to this show. But everyone else, you know, who's gonna be like, ooh, crap. You know, you're gonna lose. But it will, it will, you know, it'll be okay. I think.

1:16:14 I hope. I hope. Well, it took, you know, that book, you got a copy of it, the one about the family that moved to Nazi Germany. Yes, I've started that. I put it in the book club show notes for the last show. Yeah, what's the name of it again? Do you have it handy? Yeah, I can go into the show notes real quick. And it was 516. I counted down 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. There we go. And book club. I'm really good. book club in the garden of beasts right in the garden of beasts i started reading it was good and i was it's interesting because germany had slipped into a uh just kind of a bad scene uh to say the least especially during this hitler era where they were beating people up yeah just generally it was just and i i was thinking that what could we ever get because the reason we even talked about this book is because

1:17:08 We have to sit around the dining room table saying what if we were in Germany in the late 1930s, what would we be talking about? How would it be different than the way we're leading our lives now with this kind of kind of a semi-corrupted system. Semi? Okay, a corrupted system. I don't think everybody's corrupt but it's kind of a fascist-like environment we're in. You know, the shield laws, the bullcrap on television, the MSNBC shills, the whole thing. It's just all bad. It's a bad scene. Would that be similar to Germany? And then I think There's a lot of similarities, but not the violence in the street, even though there's some perpetrated by the government. I know that they do it a little bit, I think they probably did beat up a bunch of these protesters that were in the Occupy movement, which may be the same. But this actually, that book indicated to me that this mentality of Germany to be a bunch of militaristic thugs

1:18:01 really began in the 1890s. Oh, okay. It's made very clear in that book. So it actually took 40 to 50 years to get where it got, where the country was destroyed by the rest of the world because it becomes such a bunch of a-holes. Did you just say that basically the Holocaust was a bad scene? It was a bad scene. It was a bad scene, man. So, of course, we know that certainly with Operation Paperclip, but there was a lot of Germans and certainly Germans with this type of attitude moved to the United States. So are we now 40, 50 years on? Is it now our time? Is it time for a bad scene here? I don't know, but it seems like we're sure leading up to one.

1:18:47 Yeah, but of course they didn't have interwebs and stuff like that. Maybe the internet will save us. I think the internet can be turned against us rather quickly. I disagree. I am going to disagree with you big time. And I think I have said this before. If you consider Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc. to be the Internet, then yes, yes, that will turn against us already. It has happened. Well, most people don't ever get off their Facebook page. Right. But if you look at the network that is the network, the Internet sees Facebook as a bug to be routed around. I mean, there's no necessity for it. In fact, it's funny because I've been working with Dave Jones.

1:19:35 And on the Freedom Controller and the Freedom Controller, the show has been running on the Freedom Controller for. I'd say almost a over a year now and it's you know, it's it's really the the crux of the system that works for me at least for maintaining all of the show notes for really keeping track of stuff that in conjunction with a couple other technologies, but you know really We are going to make it what bugs means we've got like 2,500 producers actively posting stuff to Google Plus and

1:20:11 Some of it some of these links are really really good Now what is annoying is there's no you know It's not easy to like unsubscribe from an individual who just post crap that you don't want I mean all these things that we've solved a million years ago when it wasn't a centralized Google experience and hopefully within the next I'd say three to four weeks We'll have an open sign up for all of these producers. I want to hijack all of you and grab all of you and bring you away from Google into the Freedom Controller. We're gonna even try and make some of it look like the Google Plus kind of like we have a post with a picture just so you can feel comfortable. But we need to get everyone... And this is no... There's no money. There's not gonna be any money on this. It's funny. On Memorial Day, my ex-wife called me.

1:21:03 and she's bitching about money. You know, and our divorce is done and finalized three years ago and you know I got no money. She's like, hey you should give me money. It was essentially her... She called you to ask you for money? Is she still working? Yeah but she's, you know, she wrote this tell-all book and in the tell... she'd made a big mistake. In the tell-all book she wrote that she slept with John DeMalle. And John Lamal is one half of Endemol, you know, producers of The Voice. Just as a, you know, but huge, huge entertainment conglomerate. He not only owns one of the networks, but he produces half the shows for all television in the Netherlands, which is what my ex-wife does. And, you know, it was like she slept with a couple of people. This is part of her book.

1:21:53 And that's because the publishers really pounded a poor book writer. Come on, you gotta get some dirt in there. You're never gonna sell a copy if you don't get some dirt in there. No, I think she also wanted to say this. I think it was a part of her mistake. Yeah, it was a mistake because first of all, the other guy denied it. One guy denied it. It's pretty bad. It's like, no, uh-uh. That's bullcrap. But then John Lamal also denied it. And he said, this book isn't written, isn't worth the trees that were pulled down for the paper it was written on and she'll never work again in this business. And guess what? What was she thinking? I don't know, man. I don't know. That's what I said. I said, well, you better start writing some more books. It's a bestseller.

1:22:40 Yeah, whatever that means. Maybe she's a good writer. She should, but that's what she's going to have to do then. She didn't write it. You don't write that sort of thing until it's your deathbed. You got the book in the band, it's going to come out after you die and your kids are going to get the money. That's where those things happen. So she didn't, her sequence of events was differently and it results in, hey, you should be paying me some money. And now how was I getting to this? I was there was a reason for me bringing this up. Besides just complaining. Yeah, I was on the holiday. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. And then and then she's like, well, you know, a long story short, I'm like, you know, I do a podcast now twice a week and I ask money people to send me money. That's how I live. And I live in Austin.

1:23:31 I don't live on the coast, I live in the middle of America, it's much cheaper. So this is so dang, you're asking me for money? No! And I already, whatever my daughter wants, when she needs help, I help her out. And they said, but you know, you always said that you were going to change the world and you're going to do something. I said, yes, and I am positive. You never said it was profitable. That's exactly what I said. I said, I know I'm going to change the world for sure. I don't think I'm going to make a dime with it. I'm going to change the world. And I think the Freedom Controller, freedomcontroller.com, you can already download the sources and you can set up your own version of it. And they all tie together in a distributed network without a central hub. So there's no central system.

1:24:18 Yeah, there's no Google server. There's no nothing they can flip the switch on exactly and say flip that switch Yeah, so and so when I look at the internet when you say they can turn it against us Yes, of course, they can turn the web portion which and which is already being turned against us I mean my god, it's a piece of crap The web is just crap and the technologies that it flash. It's just like it's it's killing my life and waiting for this stuff to work but you see it now. What's funny because I have a we now have a... Before you go on let me finish my little bit. Sorry. I got excited. Which was that I thought that things were you know gonna turn sour and that we might be in the here's this clip here which is the Department of Homeland Security and Phoenix this was about

1:25:09 when Occupy was in Phoenix and I think that this happened everywhere because Occupy has kind of fallen off the face of the earth and maybe what's described in that book that we're talking about where the street beatings were taking place it may be upon us that we're just not noticing it in the positions we're in. Matt Rothschild is also the author of You Have No Rights Stories of America in an Age of Repression. Matt, welcome to Democracy Now! Just lay out what you have found. Hey Amy, thanks for having me on. Yeah, I mean, these documents from the Center for Media and Democracy and DBA Press show that law enforcement and Homeland Security have equated protesters, left-wing protesters, as terrorists. They've diverted enormous amounts of resources from counterterrorism efforts to spy on these local protesters.

1:25:55 And then they've collaborated with the private sector, some of the very institutions, banks, that these protesters were aiming at. And as you read in that statement from the Phoenix Police Department, the effort was to mitigate these protests. I mean, why is law enforcement, why is Homeland Security in the business of mitigating protests? Well, because we got to shut him up. That's why I mean hey banker. What else you want us to do for you? We'll hit girl crack heads if you want, but he but I mean just look at who's running it now You know that Mickey had to get a parole did we talk about this?

1:26:31 No. Okay, so because the green card application is in process and on June 18th I think we go in for the interview, this interview where we have to prove that you know it's not some sham wedding that you know that we just so she can get her green card to suck off the resources of America. You know she's a contributing taxpaying member of society but okay so she has to leave to do her show. Because you just can't wait until after June, you're not going to do an art show. So she has to get parole. It's literally called parole. And it consists of a document, John, I thought I was in freaking Russia.

1:27:12 It's this whole document that says because of her contribution, the important contribution to the monetary success of the American society, she can go and work and has her picture embossed into this and there's a big raised seal stamp on it. And then there's a circle for when she comes back into the country for the agent there to stamp. It's frightening and embarrassing, completely embarrassing that this is what the country has become. And you look at Janet Napolitano and just put a mustache on her and she's Hitler. Sorry, couldn't resist. Kind of a chubby Hitler. But of course, everyone is a terrorist. Now we have this poor kid. This is my favorite report because he has a rare disease which I guess I have too.

1:28:05 He was held on $2 million bail after planning to kill his classmates at his high school. Today, students returned to class with some extra security on campus as we learn new details about the alleged deadly plot. Grant Accord looks like most other high school students, but this 17 year old... That's very important by the way how they set that up. He looks like most other high school students. Could be a high school student right now sitting next to you. He's accused of plotting to kill his classmates and teachers at West Albany High School in Oregon. faced a judge and some serious charges the same day his classmates returned to school with extra police on campus. We're not scared as a school of the whole thing. Now this kid is being touted as the hero because he saw something and said something. You know shocked that it happened here at West Elk. IE NSB the National Socialist Bundes the the

1:29:02 the Hitlerjugend, the brown shirts yes well NSB actually was the branches were some huge long name I can't think yeah the brown the NSB was actually the collaborators who would then rat on you if you were hiding if you were hiding Jews I never would have imagined anything like this happening. Police began investigating when a fellow student reported overhearing a cord make threats to blow up the school. And according to court documents, police found a hidden compartment in his bedroom. Oh, OK. Now we're getting somewhere. Yeah. For some reason when he heard that bit, I immediately thought of office space.

1:29:41 And again, you know, I'm going to blow up the place, I'm going to teach the place on fire if I don't get my red stapler back. I immediately thought porn magazines because I had a secret hiding spot too. With six destructive devices including pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails and Drano bombs along with written and typed plans to carry out a mass murder. In another report, by the way, they talked about him having a napalm bomb which is like, really? His plan was laid out in detail. Approach the school with a duffel bag and a napalm bomb. Napalm bomb, of course. What does napalm bomb consist of, John? Well, as far as I know, it's jelly gasoline. Is that Drano?

1:30:21 No, no. As far as I know, I'd have to look it up while we're playing this, but it's generally only useful as an aerial device because when it hits it throws this fire shrapnel over the place. You would put it in one spot, it's not going to do anything. It's like a joke. Right, it'd be like lighting a sternocannon and throwing it, I guess. Yeah, pretty much. ...start firing and then coolly state, the Russian Grim Reaper is here. Alright. There's so many memes and this is great. Investigators don't know why Accord wanted... Why this is all pre-crime, the kid did nothing. ...to hurt his classmates and then kill himself. In a written statement his mother said, my heart goes out to everyone affected by Grant's struggle with pandas. Ah, there it is, pandas! Now, do you remember pandas, John? Remember when we talked about pandas, what this was?

1:31:10 Yeah, vaguely. This is like some ailment. Pandas was the ailment that all those girls with tics that were diagnosed with. Oh right, the ones that we surmised had to do with the Gardasil vaccine. The Gardasil shots. Right. So pandas is basically Tourette's syndrome. A rare form of OCD. Which is also a form of Tourette's. This is a challenging and confusing time for everyone who knows Grant. Classmates describe him as a quiet student who often slept at his desk. I thought about that all weekend. I just can't take it anymore. Slept at his desk? Some poorly kid in his dreams writing some fiction. Yes!

1:31:51 But then, but so the whole idea is... He's frustrated. He's getting it out of his system. They're trying to keep this from happening. So, you know, when I was a kid, they used to have cowboy and Indian fights. And now they don't even have a... What happened to the cap gun? Hey, hold on a second. Stop, stop, stop. I'll bet you that if you do cowboys and Indians in school, that you get suspended. Because you know yeah, absolutely can't do more than a few reasons. Yeah one it's violence Wow I didn't thought of we used to do play Cowboys and Indians is what you did. What are you gonna? Do what are you gonna? Do I'm gonna play Cowboys and Indians, okay?

1:32:33 And then we had rock fights. You ever have a rock fight? But the Cowboys and Indians, you used to have these cap guns. Yeah. You can't find a cap gun if you... I don't know where you'd get one in an antique shop, but then you can't find the caps for it. It used to be these long strings of things, and you roll it in there, and you could shoot 20... I think it was about 100 shots. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and it'd make a loud bang. A boom. Which brings us to this note sent in by our producer in St. Louis. He has been sad about the cons of always carrying your cell phone in hand but roughly around 11 Tuesday morning at the University of Missouri St. Louis it proved to be a very good thing. Now this is a note he sent us about the giant voice system which has been implemented at his school

1:33:22 which is not an actual giant voice system but it is a text message system. You all listen to all the memes in this and what actually happened that triggered this giant voice system to go off and everyone to be warned about the terror. There's people in class that are like freaking out and they're putting chairs at the door. I was so silent and my hands are sweating. All students and most staff received an alert saying man with gun seen in Lucas Hall. Police have been unable to confirm this, avoid Lucas Hall, secure in place, don't come to campus. I'm glad I got the alert.

1:33:58 I mean we knew everything was going on right when I got at the door shut. You hear this person speaking? She's one of the people who will get voted off the island, okay? Just so you know it, so you can identify them. And then when I was lifted, the door opened. Campus police who had swarmed the building, put it on lockdown and searched from room to room quickly determined it was a history professor who'd been spotted with a six-foot long musket type rifle, an antique prop for his class. Poor professor, you know. I hope that doesn't deter him from bringing his props to school. It may have seemed to students like nothing more than a mistake, but to school officials it was proof that a new text alert system put in place a week ago works. Oh, how coincidental! This is... What school was this? USML. What's that? UMSL, sorry, University of Missouri-St. Louis.

1:34:52 This is a brings a prop of musket. Of course. Nobody knows what a real gun looks like anymore No, no, this is this is slave training John. This is so yeah slave training Slaves works unless you get to test it you want to let me just stay on this and then we'll go to break because I got I got emails to read I got so much I don't have enough, you know, it's like I just I had not having a show to get everything in this is Mount Vernon, New York and You want to talk about slave training man our hangouts filling up with people coming in long after the gates are locked Let me explain what the story is here. So Playgrounds

1:35:30 Now remember what we used to do, I mean, you know, as like we after school or at night, hey, where are you going to go? You know, this is beyond the playing Cowboys and Indians stage. Yeah, I'll go hang out the basketball, the playground, whatever. Where are you going to the playground? You know, hang out, you know, because the kids are all gone. And that's when you come out there, you hang out. What do you do? Smoke cigarettes. You know, you exchange your porn mags, you know, talk about, you know, chicks who you'll never get. You know, and then, ooh, maybe someone brought some reefer. Ooh, you know, stuff, right? No longer, my friends, a giant voice system is here. Now, one local city has had enough and its leaders are taking steps to put a stop to it. Iowa News reporter Marcus Solis has the story. Like any surveillance camera, the ones going up in Mount Vernon take pictures. But get this, they talk too, giving trespassers the following warning. Stop. This is a restricted area.

1:36:23 was just taken. We will use it to prosecute you. Leave the area now. How awesome is that? Wow, that's great. Now listen to them justify it. Today Mount Vernon officials showed off the city's newest crime prevention tool. The cameras are meant to deter illegal activity and vandalism at parks and playgrounds after hours. We want to send a message that this is, if you're going to do evil things, this is not the city to do it. I think that this one... Really? This is how you do it, huh? To help ensure the different parks in Mount Vernon to ensure that other people can live safely and children can live safely. So this is kind of... They're holed up in their house shivering behind the furnace, they're just shaking and worried sick. That's how they live safely? By staying home and curling up like a ball? Is that the idea? There's no community centers or anything anymore in any of these towns.

1:37:22 The whole situation is completely out of control and one of these kids are like going nuts. There was some, there's some balance to this report as you'll hear where they, uh, where people said, well, this is a ridiculous expenditure. Why not? I don't know. Make the playgrounds nicer. Cameras are solar powered and motion activated. The flash is powerful enough to photograph a suspect up to a hundred feet away, even in darkness. Each unit costs $6,000. And there are a number of residents who say the money is being misspent, given the poor conditions in some of the playgrounds. Queue poor black people. There's nothing in here, so why you got cameras in here? Don't nobody be in here? It's really sad because these kids don't have nowhere to go. No where to play. What are they going to play on? Everything over there is tore up and messed up. But officials say they can't fix up the parks until they crack down on vandalism, hence the cameras. As for those concerned about invasion of privacy... Oh, okay. You ready for this?

1:38:13 What would the line be from the city officials about being concerned about your privacy with these cameras? You're not doing anything wrong. It's not a problem. You would hear people say, why all these cameras? But if you're not doing anything wrong, don't worry about the cameras. Can I nail it? It's a no agenda show, ladies and gentlemen. Brain deadies. I would like to point out that we have not spoken before this program. We never talk in fact because we've had enough of each other by the time we're done with the show. So this is literally just because and everyone else who listened to the show knows you knew it was coming didn't you? You knew it. You knew it was coming. This is slave training people. So allow me to just take a moment here and this will I guess this will actually give you a little break. Hold on a second. Where is it?

1:39:09 Yes, here it is. Now we didn't get to it on Sunday, so I wanted to make sure because we're kind of talking about the slave training, this is, you know, these are the notes that we get. We get them from predominantly young people who, you know, who are very creative by the way, witness our producer who made the giant nail clippers. I mean, come on, this is, that is the stuff I love. I love seeing creative people and young people who understand that, you know, that the future is not what is being portrayed on the telescreens.

1:39:55 This is, so the first one is from, I think I have to keep him anonymous. Okay, 7th grade, a couple years ago, I had some crazy notion that pranks were okay. You know this can't end well. So I wrapped a piece of copper wire around the two prongs of a lamp in my English classroom. So then when it was turned on, when class began, the short circuit would cause an exciting pop sound, and as I had tested this at home, I knew nothing too horrible would happen. This sounds like something I could have done, by the way, when I was a kid. However, after events like Columbine, already power-hungry administrators and staff saw this as an act of terrorism,

1:40:40 And I was found to be a suspect. I was questioned by the assistant principal and a police officer. I did not know my rights, nor did I know that what I confessed was being put in a police report that would be used in court when the case was pursued as felony arson. My parents had not been notified until after my confession, despite the fact I was a minor. I was sent to the alternative school for a semester and some months, where I was separated from the other kids and the only student there who was not yet in high school. Incidentally, the only one not sent there for either fighting or drugs on school grounds. From what my friends back at the middle school told me, my English teacher was once heard referring to me by name as, the kid who tried to blow up the school.

1:41:28 Great teachers, too I strongly believe this circumstance did a number on my social skills, but who knows. I failed a couple of classes thanks to teachers not consistently sending over the work I was missing. I had never been a problem to any of my teachers. This ruined my reputation, cost my parents a good amount on court costs, and finally the judge settled on $20 compensation to the school so they could replace the wall outlet cover. If that isn't enough, it turns out the officer who questioned me illegally had been really into child porn and lost his job. Although that bit made the local paper, no mention was made of him being the cop that was designated to the halls of the middle school. I know this may not be considered typical, but feel free sharing anything but my name if you see fit. This happened in my hometown, a suburban area an hour's drive straight north of Dallas, Texas. And by the way, I like what you're doing in John Bova. Thank you very much. I was bred on the techie...

1:42:27 the techie pablum so I'm in the typical listener okay great so that was the kid who blew up school with basically just a prank a prank and that's this is how crazy but it was no offensive to our to our producer but it was kind of a lame prank yeah but still funny Yeah, and it was probably did like a five to six bucks worth of damage maybe if that 20 he wound up paying 20 Here's a second one from it's ridiculous by the way that whole story is it just shows you how sick this system has become so I'm not sure Oops hold on a second. So oh Let me just get this here so by the way don't start confessing no never never never never certainly not if you're just never

1:43:14 Don't confess anything, certainly not with a cop. It used to be different. Alright, so this is from a father, as in a religious father. And I'm not sure if I can mention his name, so I won't. In the morning, Adam, here's another story about training drills at schools with a little different spin. I'm the pastor of a small parochial school in a town of about 10,000 people. After Sandy Hook, because parents and staff were freaking out about school safety, we called the local police department to send a liaison to do a walkthrough of our facility. After the walkthrough, the liaison recommended that we invite the county's Tactical Response Team, their version of SWAT, to provide training for our staff. This is great stuff, by the way. This is fantastic. During a teacher in-service day, when there were no students at the school, the TRT, the Tactical Response Team, came to train our teachers.

1:44:13 While I was expecting a morning of being told to hide in the corner of a classroom if an armed assailant entered the school, it was a bit of a surprise when we learned that the TRT wasn't there to train the school staff. No, they were there to run drills themselves. They had 9mm Glocks and AR-15s set up to shoot paint-filled gas cartridges at each other. They were happy to have the floor plan of our school to add to their database and spent the morning shooting at each other, and the walls, and the hallways of the school with paintballs. The three scenarios that they set up were a random bad guy taking a class hostage, an angry parent taking a class hostage, and a Umbomber-like- look-alike wearing an IED.

1:44:57 Again taking a class hostage. It seems that the proper response to each threat was to scream at the assailant and then light him up with paintballs. Father, you're great. Except the IED wearing perpetrator. Once the IED was identified, which in this case was a piece of cardboard with the word bomb written on it taped to his chest, they were just supposed to shoot him until he dropped. The best part was when they asked if I wanted to run through the scenarios. Not wanting to miss the opportunity to shoot off-duty police officers with paintballs, I gladly accepted. Yes, a man of the cloth. When the training was over, the officers swept up the empty gas cartridges and did their best to wash up the paint-filled walls. The next day, when the students were back in class, they discovered a few random paint splatters that were missed in the cleanup. When one of the students asked her teacher about the splatter, what else could she say other than, the paint is there to keep you safe?

1:45:52 I will say because this is a small town, I know a few of the officers in there are good guys. It's just unfortunate law enforcement training has turned into combat training, a fact you and John talk about regularly and hopefully is appreciated by your listeners. Yeah, the militarization of the local police. It's a military state, so let's make the cops part of the military. Exactly. They dress like it, they wear all the armor, they hold that gun in that funny position, you know, right? You know, that funny, crazy position. Yep. And they got automatic weapons and the whole thing. Yeah. Why does little towns even need a SWAT team? It's crazy. And then should we do this note? It's a tactical response team, it's not quite a SWAT team.

1:46:33 Producer Iman from the Netherlands, you said I should read this on the show. Should I read this one? Yeah, why don't you read that. I thought there was something funny in there. There is. It's actually a good lead-in because he's a donor for this program. Hello! First of all, it has to be a miracle that you two are still alive. The way you expose the truth or your interpretation of the truth, real surprise that you are not taken out by some secret government agency or some 18-year-old Chechens. They're our listeners. Yeah, thank you. You guys are great. I'm a huge fan. I am somewhat of a boner, but times are hard in Gitmo Nation lowlands. Lately, your episodes are simply brilliant. So this week, it will be mac and cheese for me. See, attachment. I guess he donated. Thank you.

1:47:15 I even started watching Twit, and I tell you, watching John trying to keep his No Agenda opinion to himself is hilarious. Today I hit my best friend in the mouth. He has long been a crackpot, and I thought the No Agenda show was right up his alley. He's from Serbia, and he lived there during the war. He was a Serb in Croatia at the time. You can imagine that was not fun. Yeah. He has seen a lot of horrible things and endured great losses. He has a piece of shrapnel in his head. Yeah, this is a hilarious note, John. He has a piece of shrapnel in his head to prove it. But of all the stories he told me, this one fits the show best. This story is true. Where he lived in Croatia, he could see the hospital of the area. He was a young boy looking out of the window and he saw a group of people making a huge pile of car tires. So he talked to his mom about it and asked what those men were doing. She could not give him an answer. So they both watched how the men then set fire to the tires and this in front of the hospital.

1:48:12 Huge black smoke filled the sky. They both thought it is war. This is nothing special But then when they turn on the news that night there was a report about the hospital that apparently had been attacked by Serbs and this was a tragedy and many people had died they showed the hospital and the huge black clouds at that moment they both looked out of the window again and looked at the hospital nothing was going on just showing you how it really works over here greetings from Gitmo lowlands Imad And he donated $72.68, his PayPal balance. Originally, he wanted to send Swaziland off, but he thought, hey, you deserve it all. It'll take a couple of days before you have it in. So there you go. Straight from the front lines. This is exactly how it works. And we remember when we were talking about the early, when they were still working on the script for Libya, Egypt, the rest of these.

1:49:01 Arab Spring and we'd have we get some it was only the Russians which I think is part of the reason we're still we've still Birked at them that would they would pull there'd be some huge sort of a some sort of a protest or something and then they pull the camera back and and it was some staged, it was staged, by CNN. And this is going on over and over again, of course this again is, alright, it's a conspiracy area. So, obviously I'm annoyed by this. Dude, who pissed in your cornflakes with the conspiracy theory? Yeah, I don't know, it's just something, when I was just, this is, the Delta-Thompson thing has just got

1:49:38 someone someone said something to you in the past week no no really have you been out just triggered it's like that song that that I kept hearing I don't even think of what it was because I don't hear it anymore but really this so this is interesting because normal because it seems to me that this is a dude to throw this accusation out left and right they do it constantly especially on these you know, uh, alphabet soup networks. It's called marginalizing someone. That's what it is. And it's like, uh, I mean, but again, you know, go look it up. Old crap from Gulf of Tonkin and they would, they lied for years. I am happy when I wear this as a badge when someone calls me a conspiracy theorist because the alternative of being shot in the head is, is not what I want. So I'd rather they call me a nut job. Well,

1:50:29 Then there's that, yes. Alright, we got a few people to thank for today's show. 517 David DeRusse in Zrindrecht. Zweindrecht. Yes, exactly what I said. Which means swine quarters. He wanted to hear the butchering of the name by me. 13333 to complete my first step in becoming a knight. I will enjoy my grand gentlemanship in the meantime. I will continue on my way to Esquire. Keep up with the best podcasts in the universe in a random shot of karma he asked for. No problem. We've got karma. Thomas Pridgen

1:51:29 I'm guessing is in East Rochester, New York, $125. Katherine Anderson, South Penrith, Australia. I think we... do we have a Tuesday? Do we have a call out for her on her birthday? Let me check. Now I had that printed out by the way so you don't have to check anymore. Yeah, you sent it to me. You said put this in. You sent me an email and you said put this in. No, that was a different one. No. That's for a guy's 48th birthday. No, Katherine Anderson. Oh yeah, no. Yes, it's all there. It's all good. And I have Brian, yes. Okay. I had printed these out by the way so you don't have to keep going to the list because I can do it on the fly. But it's in landscape. But I can't read the printout! Landscape mode, two points. El Cid, compador! El Cid-do! In Oklahoma, $100.

1:52:23 He says round of karma to everyone. I think I think we all deserve that so I'm gonna hand it out. You've got karma. There's Sarah Yeah, and she's sending out a birthday call out for her husband. I hope that's on there. I can't tell. It is, yes it is. It is. It is. $100. Maxwell Fry in Brooklyn, New York. Uh-oh. $69.69. $69! $69, dude! You know who Sarah and Mike are, right? Yeah. No, you don't. Don't lie to me. No, you don't. Hey, they're the ones in Pennsylvania. You stayed with them. Oh, you're right. Yeah, I'm sorry. I stand corrected of course she mentions D D Dina In your head again Maxwell Fry Brooklyn, New York 69 69 he said he's causes a drone nation because he's drunken style nice good one like that Sir Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia 69 69 and he's happy to get his his art in Dennis

1:53:25 Denise in Piscataway, New Jersey. He puts the word three retards in here. I'm not sure what that means. Anyway, Patrick Bastien in Socorro, New Mexico. 6969 Thomas Lees in London. uh... dodged gas kill in pensacola florida hopes we are we're done it's not a lot of work with him and done with donations light for a third and this is by it's more like a sunday show and there was a thursday was this thursday dot jessica pensacola florida doctor who's sixty five six five two doctor sharky sir

1:54:05 Jackson, Tennessee 5517 Andrew Andre Mikkelsen in Virginia Beach, Virginia. You guys should hook up you two guys. Yeah, he sent me one. Didn't he send an email? Yeah, he said he sent an email to Adam to read on the subject line is Adam's gonna read this email I think that may be the yeah, it was you know what yes Thank You Andre I'm gonna read that on Sunday because there was some research associated with it Oh, and can I just stop here for a second? People you just give me one more minute. We'll be stopped now. I think it's important to say it now Stop sending me just emails of a cool link you got or like hey This is a great podcast or this is a great interview you want to help you want to be a producer do some work either at least give me a time code Clip something okay, don't just send random emails. I'm looking at you Jeffries

1:55:00 It's getting annoying, okay? This is why we need the Freedom Controller and people need to get on that so that we can move that off somewhere else. You're ruining email and it's not helpful because you go through stuff, it's like, you know, like someone had the Klatu send me this link. You know, it's like, oh, you got to take a look at that. And by the way, if you're sending me a CC with a whole bunch of people, you're blocked. I'm deleting your emails forever. Okay, play the pet peeve. Come on. I don't see Curry's pet peeve of the day. And so this video goes on for eight minutes, playing it backwards at different speeds, finally really slow, and you still don't know what the hell she's saying. And then it flashes the screens like, it's hooking them, or some bullcrap like that, it was stupid! You wasted eight minutes of my life! Yeah, you already played them. You wanna play it again? No. I think you've made your point.

1:56:09 Where was I? Was it Dodge Gaskill, Pensacola, Dr. Sharky, 5517, Andrew Mickelson in Virginia Beach, 50 Double Niggles on a Dime, Matthew Frascura in Orlando, 50 Double Niggles on a Dime, Kevin Payne, Richmond, Virginia, 50-01, and then we have for $50 we got Todd Brink in New Berlin, Adam Mori in Middleton, Laura Murphy in Evanston, Illinois, and finally Peter Totes, a regular $50 donor. And do you have a happy birthday for Eric Hoover? I'm looking. Yes, I do. I do. Okay, we're all done. I do. That's it? That's it. That's all we got, yeah. Yeah, it was what you call lousy. Yeah. And the thing was there was no, you know, normally on this Thursday I go to the post office on Wednesday to get the checks. Yeah. So we get like three. I'm just like, I don't know, they weren't working I guess. I don't know what was going on.

1:57:07 Very very bad. Yeah, no, it's well. Thanks. Hey those of you who did contribute. Thank you very much Appreciate it You know I think it's a good deal compared in by the way just cut off your cable. Just stop it It'll save you 200 bucks a month Maybe 150 what do you pay for cable you got kid? No you got to dish network right? You don't have cable right? So what do you pay? 125 I don't know it's got it. It's like got to be up there. I Either my most expensive is Comcast. Oh of course yeah, but you just had you the cable the channels They won't give you just that me all right right you can't get that so I hook a sling box up to the it's got to be 200 bucks Time Warner here is $240 it's too high yeah

1:58:02 And I need some of that because otherwise, you know, I have to be able to watch beyond the candelabra I mean, you know, obviously I need my HBO And and this is what we do. We assassinate media. Yeah, and it costs us a lot of money to do it exactly org slash and Here we go, so Chris Wolfe congratulates himself celebrating today. Katherine Anderson celebrates her own birthday. She turned 33, magic number on the 28th, send pictures. Brian Vaughn turns 48 today, happy birthday to himself. Sarah Greer says happy birthday to her lovely husband Mike and don't we love them both? And Laura Murphy says happy birthday to Eric Hoover in advance.

1:58:56 He'll be celebrating on June 20th. I'm sure we'll be hearing from you again around that time. Happy birthday from your friends here at the Best Podcast! And we have no nights, no title changes, no nothing. However, I do have some exciting news, John. Okay. So, this is exciting because I can once again play Amaze the Professor At our next dinner party here in Austin with our club, our Obama Bot Dinner Club. Now remember I amazed the brain professor when I told him that the National Oceanographic Institute Association, and that's how I said it, had changed the earthquake measurement from the Richter scale to their bull crap scale. Right, and now we have another one. We do indeed.

1:59:57 Apparently the measurement that is used for hurricanes and tornadoes, the Fujita scale, which used to be signified by an F number, has now changed to the enhanced Fujita scale. Did you read about this thing? Yeah, it's great. So the new scale... Hey, these global warming numbers aren't adding up. It's not high enough! I got an idea. Let's make a new one so the new scale was unveiled and we missed this one at the National Weather Service at a conference of the American Lee missed this and I feel so bad I feel bad too at the American Meteorological Society in Atlanta February 2nd 2006 it was developed between 2000 2004 by the food Fujita scale enhancement project of the wind science and engineering research center of course at Texas Tech and

2:00:52 which brought together dozens of expert meteorologists and civil engineers in addition to its own resources. But here's what was interesting, and it's very similar to what they did with the earthquake. So the enhanced Fujita scale is a damage scale and only a proxy for actual wind speeds. So while the wind speeds associated with the damage listed have not undergone empirical analysis, So they don't actually stand there with like one of those egg cup things that the whips around really fast to get a speed. They do it all post post the fact. Did you know that? Yeah, apparently they have. I think one of our producers told us that.

2:01:40 the way they do it now allows for F3's and F4's to be recategorized as F5's which allows the warmest to come out and say, oh there's going to be a lot more F5 tornadoes and that's because of global warming. That's exactly what it is and they just leave off the E and just say F. It should be EF but it's not, they just say F. So damage indicators, there's 28 damage indicators which help determine this number. such as types of structures and vegetation destroyed, each with a varying number of degrees of damage. This is so unscientific. This has nothing to do with the actual science of measuring a tornado. I had no idea it was such bullcrap. It doesn't surprise me.

2:02:28 But this is crazy. So this thing... No, I know. What's weird to me is that some of the most unscientific stuff is all part of this admixture of bullcrap to create some supposed agreement with scientists. This is... We're getting so unscientific, it's unbelievable. Shut up already! It's science! Yeah, listen to Dr. Kiki. She knows what to do with you. Um, hold on a second. I have... Uh, where is it? I was a little unprepared, sorry, but here we go. Alright, not one, but two similar stories today which need to be discussed.

2:03:15 And this is about NASA's Curiosity rover, which has been in the news again. I keep seeing, you know, whatever bull crap story they're talking about. Now, of course, we all know my theory. This thing is just parked somewhere in Arizona. And so there's two stories. The first one is and so this thing is sending pictures from Arizona back to home base. so now we have found a rat on the surface of Mars in the pictures which no one else can explain and a Lizard has also been spotted on the surface of Mars both of these stories linked in the show notes at 517 dot na show notes.com Yeah, so there is a rat on

2:04:06 They got a like a little desert rat. It's sitting between the rocks there. Yeah, and where are all the scientists now? How are you gonna explain this one away? Is it just a figment of my imagination? Photoshop. Photoshop did this. This did you kind of uh... Photoshop. Right now it's from the raw image files that NASA makes available. It's from their raw image files. Somebody slipped it in. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Mars rat spied by NASA's... this is from... this is Fox News. So, of course... Fox News... They're not reliable, they're liars. Right-wing Fox News. Photo taken September 28, 2012. Depicts the Rocknest site where NASA's rover took a scoop full of sand. Creature was identified by a blog.

2:04:58 And, uh, I mean, you look at the picture and it looks like a rat sitting right there. Like, it actually looks more like kind of a hamster-y type animal. See, is there a video of this? No. So, yeah, alright. And then the lizard link, this both came out today. I'm telling you, this is bullcrap. They didn't go to no Mars. Or at least I have reason to doubt the official story. This is from the Daily Mail. Just as reliable as Fox. Sharp-eyed UFO fan claims to spot lizard on Mars in footage from Curiosity Rover And you look at it look like a friggin lizard looks like more like one of those. What do you call them? Not a commute. What do you call those big? with the monster no You have him in the tropics. Mmm. Oh gecko no No, he's not like a geese bigger than a gecko anyway, but the funniest thing has got to be

2:06:03 So I go looking for this thing I get the International Science Times and right before I can even go to the story of the big flash pop-up like us on Facebook All right, hey here is Chan the president What is erred what looking at the pictures bullcrap anyway go on I'm moving on to his more bull crap. The novel coronavirus is a threat to the entire world. So that is the director of the World Health Organization. That's not that same idiotic woman who called a pandemic on a... Yes, it's Chan. So 27 people... Why is she there? She can barely speak. Have you seen? It looks like Starfleet Command that she's got there. She sits on this panel. This room must be a hundred feet high.

2:07:09 You seen that thing with the big logo and everything? No. Anyway, so here's Brolf who takes that news and turns it into this. Still rising right now from a newly discovered respiratory virus that health officials are calling, and I'm quoting them now, a threat to the entire world. Say it again. So far 49 people have been infected in 8 countries. most of them in the Middle East. The World Health Organization says as of today, 27 of those patients have died and that number will likely get higher because experts don't understand how the virus is spreading. Let's get some background now. See, that's Mary Snow is joining us. Let me guess, what are you learning? So Mary, what are you learning? How serious is this?

2:07:50 Well, the big reason the World Health Organization is so concerned about this virus is there is no known treatment at the moment. Scientists around the world are looking for answers and that includes a team here in New York. All right. So we're all gonna die. There's no known treatment? No known treatment. You can't hospitalize them and give them water, fluids or anything? No, no, no. Can't do anything? No known treatment. You cannot hide fact the whole world you're gonna die. Now, let's take a quick trip around the elites of the world and let's laugh at them. First we go down under to Australia where we're very happy that this took place and I think it's a very good thing we all can learn something from the Australian producers. Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard has been forced to dodge a flying sandwich for the second time this month.

2:08:38 She was greeting children at Lynham High School in Canberra when a student flung the salami snack. Oh, I think Kat must have thought I was hungry. the... I thought I was hungry. Flung the salami snack, I tell you. Very good, very good. So we're very, very happy with that. I think that's a good idea. You know, in Eastern cultures, we typically throw a shoe. Yeah, but shoes cost money. Yeah. Here, it's just a salami sandwich. And it's funny because the video, you see that it's a shitty throw, by the way. It's not the knife throwing crocodile Dundee that did this, but I think it's funny. Don't you think that should be our thing now in America? Throw salami sandwiches? No, baloney. Baloney sandwiches. Oh, baloney would be better, yeah. Just throw a baloney sandwich at your politician if he's full of crap.

2:09:32 Who else is full of crap and has literally crapped in the White House is Al Roker. Listen to this news. Hey, thanks so much guys. These folks from Moore, Oklahoma, they survived that EF5 and there could be more bad weather like that. Take a look at this. I will say he actually said EF5. I'll give him that one. He did say he did put the E in front, but now. 16,000 tons, really?

2:10:15 I don't think that's right. It's like three million pounds Al. 16,000 tons. 16,000 tons. What do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt. Here's Al Sharpton. Now I hate you know I kind of hate to to make fun of him but damn it's so much funny because you know he says stuff like there's no real conflict so let's listen to what Al says today.

2:10:52 re-re-invigorated based on a number of these things and I think it's imperative that we know what the truth is, know what the facts are, and have our presidents back as he has ours to push through this like he has to, has had to almost every single year he's been in office. Well there's no doubt about the fact that they want to put, I heard someone say, I think it was Matthews, that they want to put an Aztec next to his name like they have done An ass tick? Ass ticks! I want to put an a stick next to his name and that's Genius this guy's just great fantastic want to put an a stick next to his name like they have done Should be so proud of this fine broadcast a stick they want to put an a stick next to his name like Amazing to me that this guy's on the air just put an a stick next to his his name is just as fancy Hey, did you see the?

2:11:57 So the Muqtar al-Muqtar, our buddy there. Oh yeah, Muqtar al-Muqtar. Yeah, of the Marlboro Man. Yeah, yeah, that guy. Isn't he dead? Yeah, he's dead, but I think it was the telegraph. So they somehow magically found a letter from Al-Qaeda Central. Sent to him the right al-qaeda letterhead Yes, the al-qaeda letter found by the Associated Press inside a building formerly occupied by their fighters in Mali now you remember that we played all the video of The mile it was like they found like an ak-47 and and three bullets. This was the big terror threat in Mali Yeah this letter that the Associated Press found

2:12:46 is an intimate window into the... They just found it? Yes, just like, oh what's this? Why, it's a letter. What does it say? It's a glimpse into the inner workings of a highly structured terrorist organization. that requires its commanders to file monthly expense reports. Oh no! Are you kidding me? No, I'm not! Monthly expense reports? Yeah, listen! And they were mad at him because he didn't file his expense reports on time. What, does he work for a dot-com? I'm telling you! This is unbelievable. Yeah, the letter... Okay, that's... that is... I wish you had a clip for that, because that's a clip of the day. The letter signed by the group's 14-member Shura Council or governing body describes its relationship with Belmokhtar as a bleeding wound and criticizes his proposal to resign and start his own group. I'm gonna start my own group, okay? I don't need you and your damn expensive parts. Hello?

2:13:48 First and foremost, they could get your budget in We're not gonna be blowing anything up for the next month until all the budgets are in no there was 30 bullet points in this letter First and foremost, they quibble over the amount of money raised by the 2008 kidnapping of Canadian diplomat Robert Fowler, the highest ranking UN official in Niger, and his colleague. Balmachtar's men held both for four months, and in a book he later published, Fowler said he did not know if a ransom was paid.

2:14:25 The letter reveals al-Qaeda wanted to use the kidnapping to force concessions in the US-led war in Afghanistan, but the plan was stymied when Bill Mukhtar struck his own deal for about $900,000 for both men, far below the $3 million per hostage that the European governments were normally paying. What is this? What? I know, this is crazy. This is a business they're running. No wonder they have action items in a memo. Yeah. What's our budget looking like? It looks like we're getting about nine million this month. We're going to do a hundred for the year. What's our delta? Oh man. What's the delta on our revs? Can I... I'd like to meet the chief revenue officer for Al-Qaeda please. This is nuts. And I really have to believe this? Do you think it's true?

2:15:14 Well, I know that we've actually discussed this before and I know there's been clips that have come and gone that indicate that they were running a business which was a hostage for money business. So you'd steal some diplomat and you'd get a check to give him back and that's what people would do over and over again and I didn't know what the payouts were but if it's three million bucks a pop from the EU, that's pretty good money for a week's work. I gotta read you some more. The list of slights is long. He would not take management's phone calls, refused to send administrative and financial reports. And you get those TPS reports, Bill McDar. He ignored a meeting in Timbuktu. Screw that meeting in Timbuktu. I'm not going. Tell them to pound sand. Calling it useless.

2:16:09 He even ordered his men to refuse to meet with Al-Qaeda missionaries, and he aired the organization's dirty laundry in online jihadist forums, even while refusing to communicate with the chapter via the internet. Sounding like managers in any company, the Shura leaders accused Belmokhtar of not being able to get along with his peers. They charge that he recently went to Libya without permission from the chapter which had assigned the Libya dossier to a rival commander called Abu Zayd. And they complain that the last unit they sent Belmokhtar for backup in the Sahara spent a full three years just trying to contact him before giving up. That is just too funny.

2:17:02 The sharpest blow in the council's letter may have been the accusation that despite this history of terrorism, Belmoktari and his unit had not pulled off any attack worthy of mention in the Sahara Desert. Quote, any observer of the armed actions carried out in the Sahara will clearly notice the failure of the mass brigade to carry out spectacular operations, despite the region's vast possibilities. There are plenty of Mujahideen, funding is available, weapons are widespread, and strategic targets are within reach. Your brigade did not achieve a single spectacular operation targeting the Crusader Alliance. You, my friend, are demoted. Isn't that nuts? It's totally nuts. Huh.

2:17:48 Wonder where that note came from, I mean in reality. I'm sure it wasn't, nobody stumbled upon it. Well, that's what they say. They say that the Associated Press found it inside a building in Mali. It's not completely unbelievable that a note like that existed. So there is the, well it's a translation of course, but it is from the AP, it's in the show notes, PDF. And it's a translation of what they say is the note. Funny, isn't it? So on one hand, it kind of... Can't segway out of this piece. No, but... I can't... I know, I too am just baffled. It's too ridiculous. I too am just baffled.

2:18:42 But if you read the whole letter and how many pages, it's like, it's pages and pages. I mean, I've seen some letters in my time where people are pissed off and you know, you gotta fire someone or you're not doing a good job. But this is just, it just blows everything away. You know, it's like, I was just not doing this job. Ian, does the inadequacy come from consultation and coordination which we are in system or does it come from unilateral behavior along the lines of our brother Abu Abbas which produced a blatant inadequacy trading the weightiest case the Canadian diplomats for the meager price of 700,000 euros. So they're like bitching about sales. Yeah, the guy he couldn't close a hiring he couldn't close the real deal he had to take a discount. We do not do discounts.

2:19:31 That was my German that wasn't good But isn't that sad very funny yeah, well it just shows you that it's just nuts Watching C-SPAN and of all people that are on call human resources We gotta call human resources about this Mukhtar guy. Oh yeah, Mukhtar. So Amy Goodman's being interviewed.

2:20:08 Oh really? And it was so funny to listen to this one. I have two clips. One of them, well actually play the short clip first because she's babbling and she's throwing in memes and she doesn't know what she's talking about. I'll just play this clip, the media is what message and I'll ask you when she says, she's describing how green they are in the studio. Let me just say that this is Amy Goodman. She hosts the National Treasure. Democracy Now. Public television program so basically government approved democracy now Obama bought approved for sure She's a major Obama, but even though that every story they bring up recently is like why would you support this guy? But no this is which is the great irony of the show cycles bottles

2:19:31 That was my German that wasn't good But isn't that sad very funny yeah, well it just shows you that it's just nuts Watching C-SPAN and of all people that are on call human resources We gotta call human resources about this Mukhtar guy. Oh yeah, Mukhtar. So Amy Goodman's being interviewed.

2:20:08 Oh really? And it was so funny to listen to this one. I have two clips. One of them, well actually play the short clip first because she's babbling and she's throwing in memes and she doesn't know what she's talking about. I'll just play this clip, the media is what message and I'll ask you when she says, she's describing how green they are in the studio. Let me just say that this is Amy Goodman. She hosts the National Treasure. Democracy Now. Public television program so basically government approved democracy now Obama bought approved for sure She's a major Obama, but even though that every story they bring up recently is like why would you support this guy? But no this is which is the great irony of the show cycles bottles

2:20:54 cemented together. We, in data centers and in our machine room that all TV stations and radio stations have to deal with and lots of places deal with data centers. We really pioneered a way to, because all the electronics give off so much heat, to work out a way to try to use less energy in dealing with this. Because we really do believe that the medium has to be the message. What is she saying? I'm asking you! So okay, so here's what she's saying. That the data center is so warm and they've pioneered ways to, I don't know, I guess not make it warm because the medium is the message and vote Obama. Green is good. Up is down. Black is white. Yes is no. Truth is false. The medium is the message. It's just like throw that in. Throw it in. It doesn't mean anything. The message is in the mural!

2:21:52 Come on you can play all or come on and do it. But this one here is unfortunately I'm hoping you have to cut it short because it's too long but here's what let me describe. Describe. She gets a get it they take calls on see so somebody gets a call on the and he starts to extol the virtues of democracy now and the Stations that play it yes of course and she starts to beam I've never seen her look like this big shit eat and grin smile big big big big big smile and then the guy turns on

2:22:28 And then she goes creepy looking and then she's like damn you're shaking like like a leaf before she she never does answer the guys Can't wait for this can I play yeah, Amy Goodman Lee in Rockville, Maryland here in the suburbs highly Good afternoon Amy, thank you for coming. Oh, it's great to be here. I'm a longtime... Hold on a second. Is she promoting a book or something? What's going on? Why is she being interviewed? What is happening? I don't know how she got this gig, but there's no book involved. There's got to be a reason for it. I don't know. I was just killing time. I have no idea. You got nothing better to do? That's what I'm guessing. Listener, I listen to you every morning when I drive to work, Democracy Now! Where do you listen by the way? In Washington. On WPFW 89.3 FM.

2:23:20 Hey, good work there on promoting the affiliates. You're fantastic. We really do appreciate you doing that. Justice Radio. Right, I'm a contributor to WPSW. Excellent. And I've been a contributor for many years. I really take issue with your reporting on Israel. You vilify Israel and vilify Israel and vilify Israel, and I'm glad you pointed out this morning, this afternoon earlier, how objective you are. Because when Prime Minister Netanyahu spoke to the joint session of the Congress a year, a year, a year and a half ago,

2:23:57 he got twenty or thirty standing ovations twenty or thirty standing ovations by the members of congress when democracy now reported on it it was not objective amy what you said was something to the effect of Prime Minister Netanyahu shouted down by a pro-Palestinian demonstrator. One woman got up and started yelling, free Palestine, and she was you know not cut out of the arab country she would have been carted off and thrown in jail and beaten and raped but in the united states and israel they don't do that they just took her off and you know uh... you know where there are no her right and then let her go uh... and you reported

2:24:47 Your reporting was that she was shouted, that Netanyahu was shouted down by a Palestinian demonstrator. Not, not that he got 20 or 30 standing ovations. Do you remember that? Let's get a response. Well, I want to address the larger issue that you've raised, which is a very serious one, and it's covering the Israel-Palestine conflict. We don't care. We really don't care. All right. You had to see her face. That's funny. I get it. Big smile because he's got a fan on the line. It was an ambush. It was great. I haven't seen him for a while on C-SPAN. So I've been talking to my contacts regarding Israel, Syria, and let me just tell you what's happening according to the cons. Of course we had John McCain. This kind of ties into Israel.

2:25:38 John McCain in Syria with advisors of course. By the way we have American troops in the Sinai Desert as we speak. Remember we talked about Jordan? Jordan of course borders Syria to the south. Guess what's taking place in Jordan? Let me see if it's this week. Let me just look at the schedule here for a second. Well, we do know that one of the top Army guys has been there for a number of years. So there will be an exercise taking place, I'm sure, that will be similar to what's actually going to happen, I'm guessing. I just don't have to show up anymore. I mean, it's like... I got you. Pat her down. Here it is. It's called Eager Lion 2013.

2:26:27 More than 15,000 soldiers from 18 different countries will take part in a joint military exercise in Jordan in the coming weeks. That's right. Troops from Britain, Bahrain, Canada, Czech Republic, Egypt, France, Iraq, Italy, Lebanon, Pakistan, Poland, Qatar, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, War games. There you go. Jordan a major beneficiary of US military economic aid Of course, we grant the 2.4 billion dollars in the past five years to the according to the official figures so the thinking is that this of course is going to turn from an exercise into real-world scenario and Yes, the Russians will be shipping the anti-aircraft

2:27:26 Weaponry to Syria. We are in a proxy war with Russia for sure and the important thing here is the Golan Heights which is what has been subject of dispute for decades as long as I've been alive. And probably what we will see, according to my sources, and they've been pretty right, particularly when it comes to military exercises, you can put in the red book, we will see a suicide chemical bomber attack in Israel. So this sounds like it's rigged. Yeah. Well, when John McCain shows up, are you kidding me? Yeah, McCain shows up out of the blue for some reason or other. Well, you know what he's doing is he's doing the pre-deals.

2:28:20 Yeah. Because you know, because what happens at look at Libya. Well when they start blowing places up they want to make sure that you know the one we only blow up the ones who don't go along with the program. And here's what his buddy Lindsey Graham was doing. This tweet came from Lindsey Graham. It reads, This is how much hubris these cocksuckers have. Seriously, because they know what's going on. They know exactly what's going on. Like, oh, I got dibs on his office. If he doesn't come back. Because we know what's really going on. That's too funny. Douchebags. Yeah, well, those two guys are the worst. New law in Connecticut, John. OK. Yeah, new law. You see something, you have to say something. If you don't, you're going to jail.

2:29:26 Let's see. Actually there are laws similar to that. The staff of the state's top prosecutor and the governor's office have been working in secret with General Assembly leaders on legislation to withhold records related to the police investigation into the December 14th Newtown Elementary School massacre including victims photos, tapes of 911 calls and possibly more. So just like So, you know, obviously we cannot share we cannot even play 9-1-1 tapes because that would cause either too much distress for the families of the victims or It might cause Muslims to riot in other countries Mickey our soldiers unsafe. This is this is just my standard my standard answer now, so they are hiding What is I feel? necessary information

2:30:24 particularly in light of, you know, so they're gonna flatten the school. I love flattening the school. Flatten the school and they lock up all of the tapes and photos and everything. Particularly after the confusion. But, you know, you get in Boston, or in Florida, you get the guy whose kid was shot in the head. Kill shot, top of the head. He's got a picture. This is, it's, you know, put the- And then that Florida thing is ridiculous. But put this under your Gulf of Tonkin thing, John. They, what will be allowed according to this legislation, they will be allowed to release transcripts of the 911 calls, but not the actual recordings. Because of course, you know, it's much easier to put out a fake transcript than it is to let us listen to the actual tape. So they're gonna put out, oh, that's unbelievable. It's not unbelievable. It's just how it is.

2:31:33 Let me see how much time do we have. We should get out of here. I got a couple more. Let me play a couple of these last clips on the marijuana thing. This is coming to a head with a bunch of hearings. What's the thing about the marijuana? Who cares? Just smoke it and shut up. What's the problem? Well, it's interesting because I sent you the document that Brookings Institute did a huge thing on marijuana and they've concluded that the public opinion about the whole thing has switched so radically to pro-legalization that now it's impossible to back off and stop it. And it turns out that, and you can play the Brookings Institute clip, this is just part of it, I'll have you cut it off at a point. I read the report, since you rarely send something for the show notes, when you do I always read it. My takeaway was smoking marijuana makes you feel good.

2:32:23 That was my takeaway. Public perceptions of basic fact have changed in ways that prepare the ground for a shift towards pro-legalization sentiments. Let me just list two of the major perceptual shifts. First of all, marijuana is no longer considered worse than alcohol. Along the dimensions that most Americans bring to that judgment, Second, and perhaps even more important, there has been a sharp decline in the percentage of Americans who see marijuana as a gateway drug to things that are harder and even more dangerous. That percentage now stands at only 38 versus 58 percent who don't see marijuana as a gateway drug.

2:33:19 Here's the other aspect. are all they think that the marijuana laws and the whole war on drugs is a waste of money that is the majority opinion it's just weird to me that this again you know the elite media and everybody else they will not the majority opinion is the majority opinion that's why it's been legalized in Washington Colorado and California of course idiotically voted no so I'm watching all these things and I go to see spend it is a bunch of drug hearings there's a crap

2:34:02 load of them and I got the biggest kick apparently the or the OAS, the Organization of American States came out with a report essentially you know condemning the 20 billion dollars that's spent in Latin America to fight drugs and they just say that again it's another big waste of money but here's the takeaway from this guy who's a drug czar or he's not really the drug czar but he's an undersecretary of state I got his name here somewhere let's see if I can find it he's on our side He's one of our guys, but he's William Bromfeld. And he's just kind of an apologist for the State Department. It's actually kind of funny to listen to him talk because he's a funny looking guy. But here's his real spiel. Let's not go into detail on the drug study, Congressman. It's a very long document. It's over 200 pages in length.

2:34:57 My simple summary would be the first part of it, the so-called analytical part, was not bad, professionally done. The second part, the so-called scenarios, what might happen if the following things happen, I found less satisfactory. At the end of the day, the report was not actually the resounding call for legalization that the media has suggested. And I must admit, I went online and I entered in OAS drug study and the first 15 screens of what I got all had the title OAS calls for legalization of marijuana. Which actually was not what the drug study said, but you would have to get to the 16th screen before you would realize that had you gone online to read it. You don't have to now.

2:35:43 I have saved you a vast amount of searching. We have gone at this and we've made three or four basic fundamental points. One, all governments of this, of all countries of this hemisphere have signed on to the three UN international drug conventions. We're all, we all must abide by those because we have ratified them. Okay, so I thought this guy's full of crap, so I went to look at the OAS drug study by doing that exact same search. Curiously, he's right. 15 screens, yeah. But it's OAS drug study, look it up, it's the, you know, the drug study eyes, they always have the exact same wording, eyes legalization, E-Y-E-S, eyes. All of these 16 screens are one AP story that has been regurgitated throughout the media in a very humorous way because it's like,

2:36:35 just like outlet after outlet, TV station, radio station, newspaper, just 60 pages of this ICE legalization term. All the same exact AP story. Very few people did any work at all. They just took that story from the AP which says ICE legalization and ran it. And I just thought it was just another, it was just like ludicrous condemnation of the media. I mean this is If you're going to just load up with AP stories without even adding your own words to the headline, the headlines were all exactly the same. It was actually unbelievable. And so what really got to me though, this is the kind of thing that Google says doesn't happen on their search engine. It's the exact same thing over and over and over and over again, all pointing to the same story. Why isn't Google cutting out 15 of these 16 pages? Do you question the grand gentleman Matt Cutts?

2:37:28 Just saying. By the way, they were slamming you, dude. Oh, they were? Yeah, on This Week in Google. So This Week in Google has Jeff Jarvis, who needs a teeth job, and Matt Cutts. So it's the Google guy, the Google stock owner, and this is a show about Google. It's called a Google guy, Google stock. Well, that's what they would do. They'd be all pro Google. But then it comes to, you know, like, oh, well, you know, Dvorak, stupid, crazy. And don't really address the issue anything, anything at all.

2:38:07 So yeah, why didn't they address the fact that you were getting the same notice and all you had was a photo, a JPEG, which is not something that you can do much with in terms of creating a virus or anything on your site. And so you got blackmailed. Did they address that? They must have talked about that. Yeah, of course. Oh, in great depth, yes. No, it's just, you're crazy, you're nuts, and I think Leo actually said, he's fucking stupid. Oh, I'd like to get that one. It was something, it was something, it was something, I think he swallowed the F word. It was like, fuck, stupid. Like, you're stupid. But, you know, um, you are. I'm just trying to get you all riled up. Oh wait, it's not Sunday. Damn. Yeah. I gotta get you on that show again. I haven't put you on for a while. It's no good. Well, you know, if I don't get on, we'll just start a show. Oh, I can't wait.

2:39:02 It would be so great to do. They want the new guys at Ziff, want us to restart Cranky Geeks. The new guys? They got a new new guys? They got new new guys all the time. They got bought by a company in November. But they kept the old CEO at Ziff Davis. Wait a minute, wasn't there some new owner and they keep throwing money at him and he keeps buying the little operations here and there. Isn't there some like Asian guy who owns it now? No, it's owned by a company called J2. Oh, and they've seriously contacted you and said start Cranky Geeks again? They're talking about it, yes. They want cranky geeks and they want some other thing and what did you say? Talk to my man. Let me so see what this they have a studio talk to my manager studio in the city I have to go look at it as if this you can even do a show there I don't know. I have no idea. I'm gonna go visit but would you want it? I'm just talking you know They keep bringing me back. I keep going to video You're like bad Mexican food. Just keep coming back. Just don't stop well. That would be great Yeah, but of course I can't be a guest on that show because you know I

2:40:07 It can't be, you have to be in the studio. That's what I mean, I can't really be in the studio. Yeah, no, this whole idea of having all these guys on Skype, I find it annoying. It is, if you're doing a video, but you know what? I am going to tell you this and I'm going to say it once, okay? If you start a show, if you restart Cranky Geeks, I will compete with you. Okay, and I will and I will start an audio only podcast and it will beat you it'll be twit because the video thing is useless it all it does is it costs a lot of money for the 2,000 people the bandwidth for the 2,000 people who watch it watch the video. That's about it. It's really it's you know, there's two 1500 2,000 people watching live

2:40:55 And then maybe, okay I'll give you an extra thousand who watch the video. It is completely pointless. Well you know I think the numbers will bear you out which is that when we were doing Cranky Geeks and I think Leo's numbers are the same way, the number of people that just download the audio and listen to it in the car or off their iPod. It's 95%. Yeah, it's a big number. Yes, and I don't see any reason, you know, I think that's one of the things, you know, Leo is always like concerned about the five by five network, which is this operation. He should be because they got good audio.

2:41:32 They do lots of just pure audio podcasts. Yeah, they do. Well, they used to have some video ones, but I haven't seen one for a while. Yeah, and I talked to the guy, I talked to the founder. I was like, Dan, what's his name? Benjamin. Yeah, I had lunch with him and everything. I'm like, come on, man, let's compete with Leo. Let's just do an audio only show. The thing is, I said I didn't want to do ads, I just want to do donations. I think that kind of irked him. That's ours. I think that we'd rather have no ads. Yeah, which is essentially what they've got. No, five by five makes money. Does it? Everyone, every host gets paid. Everyone makes money. Not a lot, but everyone, everyone makes money. That's my understanding at least. My understanding from one of our producers is that they had to lay off a lot of their hoes or a number of their hosts that made the most money or whatever. So they're not where they're making money is another issue. And I know Leo's making money. Yeah.

2:42:25 Yeah, I'm sure he is. With this week in YouTube. Well, I don't think any of that. Alright, let me, uh... Speaking of stupid mainstream applications on the internet... It's about time and finally it's happening. We knew it would happen. It is the war on men. This is against Facebook. And they're doing exactly, and I know who's doing it too, they're doing exactly what cannot happen to us on this program when you don't like what you see. Facebook as it was first known got started. It was very simple with few controls on what users could say. Indeed, Mark Zuckerberg's firm prided itself on the way users policed themselves.

2:43:07 Now it's a huge global business earning billions from advertisers and Facebook has to listen if they don't like what they see next to their ads. And here's what one of those advertisers nationwide is saying. Sites like Facebook should have stringent processes and guidelines in place to ensure that brands are able to protect themselves from appearing alongside inappropriate content. There's no advertiser or no brand in the world that would want to be associated with the kind of content that's been publicized over the last seven or eight days. And so I think that certainly in the short term until Facebook get a grip on it and until that content has been resolved, until the wider issue of gender hate has been resolved, I think that advertisers will be thinking about how they spend their money. Gender hate. And now it all clicked in my mind, John. All of a sudden I figured it out. This is why it's all been this women, women, women thing that Hillary Clinton's been on because when you

2:44:04 Organize the women and they have this women action media org known as wham W-a-m go to weed women meet women action media org You can then control speech Because what is gender hate? Gender hate is not illegal. Okay, it's it's if I just say hey, I hate bitches. I That is not illegal. It's inappropriate and it's lame, but it's not illegal. But so what they're doing now is they're taking the biggest platform for the reality show people of Gitmo Nation and they are placing restrictions on what you can say and they're policing it. Wow! Take action to end gender-based hate speech on Facebook.

2:44:54 Yes. And so, interesting this womenactionmedia.org I'm looking at it, who are these people? Where is this coming from? And it took me... because you look at the website, you can't find who's... you can't find out who they are, there's no about us, there's only an address. Right. And of course I did the old address trick and which is... What is this? Stupid. Shut up! I got like... hold on a second. That's something running in the background. Yeah inaugural wham DC happy hour June 5th 2013 Washington DC want to hang out with other amazing lady journos journos journos Here's a video here's a video hold on What I can't hear you Because you know our fight is everybody's fight so if you care about

2:45:57 These are all journos, women journos. So I'm like, wow, I gotta... and they have chapters in Boston, Los Angeles, New York, Ottawa, Vancouver, and you know, I'm like, well, where is this coming from? So I saw their address in Cambridge, and guess who's at that address? Okay. The YWCA. Whoa, that was unexpected. It was. And if you go to YWCA.org I think, you'll see it's the same website design with the orange and everything. It's the same thing. And it is surprising. And so I started to read a little bit about the YWCA, the Young Women's Christian Association.

2:46:46 support this, they started in the United Kingdom, which I didn't know. I thought that YMCA and YWCA, I thought that was all essentially American. Since its inception in 1891, the YWCA has advocated for women's rights and provided affordable accommodations and support services for women. But now apparently they're in the business of going after companies' advertisers. And yeah, it was very surprising to me, the YWCA really. I think they've been taken over by somebody, because if you go to worldywca.org, you find a very activist-oriented website done by a different group. But it's a YWCA, so something's up with the YWCA. Yeah, there's been some co-option there. Yeah, somebody took it over. We have to get to the bottom of this.

2:47:38 So the YWCA Cambridge is a 501c3 not-for-profit organization. You know, I haven't really... that's kind of stupid. I didn't even see that one. YWCA Cambridge. We can do it real quick and just see what their deal is. But so when I saw that I was like, okay, something is definitely going on. You agree, right? There's something weird happening here. When you go to the world site, it's weirder. What do you see? Well, I'm not there now, but you see a bunch of, you know, women will change things. It's very aggressive, almost a feminist site. You wouldn't think it's what, you know, I always think of the YWCA, which is kind of a club where you go exercise and you can, you know, take out a book from the library and meet hot chicks. Stay the night, maybe. Yeah, meet hot chicks. Maybe not. Okay, so they have the Cambridge YMCA did

2:48:41 Let's see, do they have their forms? They don't have their 2012 form up, of course. This is form 90, my favorite pastime. This is their 2011 form. They did $3 million in revenue. Just Cambridge. It's a 501c3, so that means they will disclose their donors. Let me see if I can find anything real quick. This may be something we have to do for Sunday. But I agree there's something going on and in general. The subtitle from Worldwide WCA is Women Leading Change. Oh boy. You can make a difference. Support women and girls to claim their rights. We got to put these women in their place, John. Common concern coming up.

2:49:33 And they did YMCA, World YMCA events at the 23rd session of the Human Rights Council. Listen to this. So this is very interesting. This is the organization, this is their official tax form. You tell me if this sounds like what they're doing. The organization provides 35 programs to promote and inspire lifelong development for children, adults, and families through programs that build healthy spirit, mind, and body for all the organization's membership services program, providing a diverse client population with a broad continuum of services which include Aquatics, yoga, aerobics, basketball leagues, personal training, martial arts, and numerous classes for all ages. Nowhere does it say, oh yeah, and we go after advertisers. Strange, huh? Yeah, this has become a pressure group. Well, we can figure this out quite easily, and we'll do it in the future because this show is over. But we will do it by finding out who the new person is that came in. We'll make that promise.

2:50:37 Fact we'll find out who it is. There's a person that came in to change things. That's right, okay I was gonna play something as the last clip. There's something that you had that was really good I just can't remember what it was Hmm I don't know Anyway, oh yeah, you can play some tech analysis from idiots. Oh Okay Hey, you know what if people support the show enough then why don't we just add? A whole bunch of tech to the show we can do it better than anybody else, but we can definitely do it better than these idiots You're gonna hear I'll play that we'll be back on Sunday, and I'll just bring you some tech analysis because I think it's time We start putting more of that in the show

2:51:35 Coming to you from the capital of the drone star state home of the cross-dressing governor in the morning everybody My name is Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. DeBorah. Talk to you again on Sunday right here on No Agenda Can Yahoo make this work without spoiling the freewheeling spirit that has made Tumblr so popular? I spoke earlier with Mario Armstrong, digital lifestyle expert for HLN, and Katie Linendoll, tech analyst for ESPN and Spike TV. Katie Linendoll, how would you describe the combination of old internet giant Yahoo and new kid on the block Tumblr?

2:52:17 Well, it's probably not the most appropriate analogy, but I like to say this is like the super hot supermodel paired with the old creepy guy. And you're like, this just doesn't kind of work. What's going on here? Oh, the old creepy guy has a billion dollars. That's why there's a mismatch. That's why I like to think of Yakuza. The old creepy guy is headed by a woman, the young CEO Marissa Mayer, and in the official press release announcing the billion dollar acquisition of Tumblr, she vowed not to screw it up. Why'd she say that? Because she better not. I mean, this is, look, Yahoo is in a state of emergency right now. Everyone can act like they're okay, but really they're not. And this is... The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak.org slash N-A-W-R-A-K.