Episode 466 · Sunday, 2 December 2012

Give Peas a Chance

From the arrest of a drone-obsessed street artist to the secret financial holdings of UN ambassadors, the global power structure is showing its cracks.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 39m listen | 35 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 466

About this episode

President Barack Obama has launched the #My2k social media campaign to pressure Congress over middle-class tax cuts, a branding move mocked by the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group for its phonetic similarity to the Y2K computer glitch. Meanwhile, UN Ambassador Susan Rice faces intense scrutiny following financial disclosures revealing a $20 million net worth, including significant holdings in TransCanada and Monsanto. The United Nations General Assembly's vote to upgrade Palestine to a non-member observer state has further complicated the diplomatic landscape, as Rice issues a stern condemnation of the move.

In New York City, No Agenda producer Adam Atiyah, known as Knight Sam, was arrested on 56 counts including grand larceny after a drone-themed street art project involving forged NYPD surveillance posters. The European Central Bank recently won a legal victory against Bloomberg to keep documents secret regarding Goldman Sachs' role in hiding Greek debt. In the tech sector, IDG founder Pat McGovern is revealed to have used fictional columnists at InfoWorld to manipulate advertisers like IBM. Additionally, the IMF and Managing Director Christine Lagarde are pushing for a global carbon tax of $23 per metric ton, supported by what critics call polar bear propaganda in the media.

Technical difficulties plagued the studio this week following the failure of a TLA 5052 tube preamp, though the loss of 'boom' didn't stop a formal knighting ceremony for Thomas Fields and Adam Michalajczyk. John C. Dvorak shared a harrowing account of an Argentinian ant invasion in his kitchen, while a viral clip of the Noodles Kid sparked a debate on workplace dictatorships. The show also explores the curious case of Dr. Oz and a suspicious frozen pea op-ed that appeared under multiple bylines.


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CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

Argentinian Ant Infestation, John C. Dvorak's Kitchen

John C. Dvorak describes a massive infestation of Argentinian ants in his kitchen following heavy rains in California. The discussion covers the unique behavior of these ants, which form giant interconnected colonies rather than fighting interlopers, and their tendency to travel along electrical lines and wall sockets. Advice is exchanged regarding extermination methods, including the use of Splenda or aspartame as a potential neurotoxin for ants, and the services of professional exterminators like Terminix.

argentinian ants· infestation· los angeles· extermination· splenda· aspartame· terminix

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday December 2nd 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 466 This is no agenda Is this not exactly what they predicted that you scoffed at on Thursday?

00:39 This is ridiculous. It's not the rain, it's the ants! When it rains too much and has been raining like all night and day... Which is what they predicted. Yeah well it drives the ants out of the ground because they get drowned For people who don't know there is an ant colony that goes all the way from Mexico to I think the border of Canada There are none of these ants in Washington state Oh really? Because they said that it goes all the way up. Well, maybe not all the way up. They're not in Washington. We've never seen one. We had them in Los Angeles and they were so bad that they were coming out of light sockets is that what you have? There's this one... These are Argentinian ants which are unusual Do they speak Brazilian?

01:26 No, no that's Portuguese Argentinian speak Spanish. Ah good okay so the Spanish speaking ants It's an unusual ant colony because it is one giant ant colony and so if say you have a big mound of them somewhere like in say your backyard And you wipe them out! A few of the ants get away and they roam around and then find another hive The other ones welcome the new ant in and put them to work. As opposed to what most ants do, which is they kill the interlopers. So these ants can...they don't have to you know they're

02:06 non-committal I guess and so they're all over the place yeah and there are jillions of them they don't bite or anything harmless or incredibly incredible. They get into everything, they get in everything, they leave trails... So we've had this it's incredibly hard to get rid of them because you literally have to especially the kitchen is the hardest one takes days it can take longer than that and particularly if your kitchen is mmm somewhat messy We literally had to take everything out of the kitchen and you know place it in a neutral place while just exterminate these ants that were in all the cupboards. They go along electricity lines, they come out of wall sockets, they could...they come out of the craziest places! It is the most disgusting thing. Take some pictures and tweet them

03:00 Well, we don't have the... We're kind of on it so I don't have good. What you want to get is when you have like a kitchen garbage in the container and then you get up in the morning and there's a line that looks like a black line done with magic marker. Yeah, yeah! And it's the ants. These ants going back-and-forth. Then there are also these weird... The funniest thing are this creepy beetles There's a creepy little, you don't see them that often but when you see them it's like what is this? And they're hanging out with the ants. These little beetles. They are like playing cards. They are little bitty, they're like triple ants. It's three lengths of an ant but in the same kind of basic size

03:39 and they're going in and out, apparently the ants don't... They say whatever. It's like the Borg if you're on a Borg ship You can wander around and the borg really do anything until they start killing them Yeah I know exactly what your talking about So, these ants and these beetles start. But anyway it forms this line and you just vacuum them up and it's weird that you can vacuum the entire line which could be like five feet long to where they're coming in. And then as soon as you lift the vacuum up, the line is back again within five seconds. Right okay so here's what we do I have experience with this because we had a lot of let me give my experience when we moved into Los Angeles

04:19 There was a line of ants going around the house and that line got Progressively worse until they finally found their way in so there is a colony somewhere on your on your property You have to Lord one you have to nuke that and then yeah, and then you need to put down some Splenda. Oh Because those guys they come up. They eat the Splenda and within seconds And anything that contains aspartame just give it a try it's guaranteed to work on that's funny idea I had that's actually good what I do is I have some some ant poison and I find the points of entry And then I just dab it on there, and then the ants come by and they start you know having conniptions yeah, and then they pretty much

05:02 Yeah, and then convulsions. And then they start forming a pile of dead ants and you can kind of vacuum them up. I would also recommend calling... It's disgusting! California, don't move here anyone! Call Terminix is what I'd do. Terminix. Those guys are great. Yeah they don't give a crap if they're poisoning you or anybody else. No but the ant problem is gone wouldn't it? Anyway John ummm..I am very very dismayed at the start of today's program not just for your ant issue but I'm so angry that here we are, two guys with a perfectly good not just good but an excellent outstanding consultancy the Curry Dvorak Consultancy Group. We know everything about media we know how to sell a message hey if you're in the New World Order and want to get slaves listen up come to us! And once again The President of United States has not taken advantage of these services of the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Obama Administration, My2k Social Media Campaign

President Barack Obama launched a social media campaign using the hashtag #My2k to pressure Congress regarding the fiscal cliff and middle-class tax cuts. The branding is criticized for its phonetic similarity to the Y2K computer glitch, which is characterized here as a historical hoax or scam. The campaign aims to highlight the $2,000 tax increase families might face, but the choice of terminology is mocked as poor messaging by the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group.

barack obama· fiscal cliff· my2k· twitter· hashtag· y2k· messaging

06:03 What did he do wrong this time? Well, they've got a new slogan for this whole fiscal cliff thing. Oh no! Yeah of course our slogan would be something like... Right you know something that we know it works right yeah exactly now what do they do and that's why I'm gonna be asking for all of you to make your voices heard over the next few days in the next couple of weeks i need you to remind members of congress democrats and republicans to not get bogged down in a bunch of partisan bickering. By the way, did you hear he has an S? My favorite. He went... Yeah that's Obama too. ...members of Congress. Oh, Obama too is the one that has this solicitous...? Yes, he's the one who does that. Okay but let's go ahead and focus on the people who sent us to Washington and make sure we're doing the right thing by them I want you to call, send an email post it on their Facebook wall if you tweet

07:03 then use a hashtag we're calling my2k. Now, really? What? My 2K they are taking one of the something that people associate with one of the biggest hoaxes in the universe The Y2K computer glitch and they have now turned that into my2k which is your $2000 dollars that it'll cost you if we go off the fiscal cliff Who in the world thinks this is a good idea to use something that is associative with Y2K as something great and something you need to remember? And he even has to go in and explain it. 2k, not y2k my 2k alright because its about your 2k in your pocket Oh ok Yeah pockets in ya pocket But that was a scam! Well appears so yeah So this is associative with a scam

08:07 Well, there may be some messaging going on then. Excuse me 50% of the Dvorak Curry Consulting Group appears to be eating something I have a cough that I've been fighting off a cold Yeah okay I either suck on something like this or I'm coughing into the mic you can choose You must suck on this What? Anyway our president is out there he's doing all the... He's campaigning again You notice that? He's like, he's like the... And he can't. That's all he can do! In fact, he even said that's all he can do This is a wonderful time of year It's been a few weeks since A long election finally came to an end and Obviously I couldn't be more honored To be back in the White House But i'm already missing The time that I spent on the campaign Visiting towns like this and talking to folks like you

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

Led Zeppelin, Robert Plant, Phil Spector Anecdotes

A series of music industry anecdotes begins with a story about a Led Zeppelin concert in the Bay Area where a specific audience scream was revealed to be a plant. This leads to a discussion of Phil Spector's three-hour lecture at Berkeley and his stories regarding Little Richard's stage antics. The segment details Little Richard's "stretcher gag," where he would fake an injury during a performance only to run back on stage for a finale.

led zeppelin· robert plant· fillmore west· phil spector· little richard· concert stories

09:07 I love you back. See that's all he wants, that's all he wants! All day long is for people to be yelling we love you Barack!! I think there's a plant in the audience where this happens. I'm totally convinced of it Of course! The whole thing is a planet! I told my story about the Led Zeppelin concert No...I don't remember that When Led Zeppelin first came into the United States they played a bunch of venues in the Bay Area Wait..you mean they're not from Kentucky? They're English?! So, uh... they come over here and so I went to see one of the concerts. Was this at the Fillmore? The Fillmore East? West? Whatever? Fillmore? Actually, I believe the first Led Zeppelin concert was not at the Fillmore. I don't remember what the venue was for various medicinal reasons but i'm pretty sure it wasn't the Fillmore Wait a minute! I thought you didn't do weed No, I was on cough medication so had a cold Oh, Zuquil

09:59 Anyway, so I go there and there was...I forgot what song it was but there's one song where there is kind of a pregnant pause. And then somebody in the far left back corner, I know exactly where he came from screamed at the top of their lungs! I love you Robert Plant! Yeah? Then they band kicked it up and it was like beautiful, it was like scripted and so I am it was yeah well i went back to work i was working at the time at the kaiser aluminum can factor is an inspector and uh... lives this means a rate them let me feel that for moment the kaiser aluminum can factory okay i gotcha

10:39 Hey, this canning group. I have plenty of anecdotes about that. Yeah yeah now i know sure move on with Led Zeppelin. The guy says yeah I went to see the led zeppelin the day before and say I saw him on Saturday you saw him when? He said I saw them on Sunday and then I asked them right at...I knew what song was they said right at this point did you hear somebody in the far left back corner scream at the top of their lungs kind of a blood curdling scream And he says, yeah! I did it. Bullcrap! It's like Bruce Springsteen every single time... He still does it during Rosalita. He pulls a girl up from the stage and has her dance kind of like he did in the video. Remember? Was it Dancing In The Dark, I think

11:21 When it was Courtney Cox at the time. Yeah, this is a coincidence really no This is this is how shows work but what do you say? We're talking about let me give another anecdote Oh really we should get on with the show The kind of donations we got, we can tell all the time. We can talk all day! You're right So I had a... went to a lecture one of the best lectures ever heard was it was supposed be an hour lecture with Phil Spector at Wheeler Auditorium in Berkeley and he showed up Well, this is years ago. Oh, it was before he went crazy? Okay. Yeah and he spoke for three hours and it was riveting to be honest about but he gave this story about one of these rig deals apparently little Richard when he was younger used to do way a bit like this He was always running around on the station at one point in his act. He'd climb up the curtains To like the top of this proscenium arch way out there. Yeah, and then he'd fall

12:22 And he'd fall with a loud thud and the show would stop. Oh, and it was like... It was a gag? I'm gag! And then they had the doctors came out, a stretcher came out. They put him on the stretcher and they started carrying him up the aisle but he still had his microphone and right as it was about to leave He let out a screech and came running back on stage sliding on his knees into the next song Wow I think George Michael tried that was well that was very successful for him Yeah anyway So can i... this is something very weird happened today So first of all you sent me an email saying you were gonna be late But then you weren't late and then you sent me like three four different things for the show notes And besides the obvious PR thing which I can't wait for you to talk about because that looks really delicious, baby Did you actually send me a knife friend? A 9-11 story though. I mean I had it lined up I'm like oh my god John sent me in 911 story no I think somebody else sent that No It came from you You sent it to me

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

TLA 5052 Preamp Failure, Studio Gear Issues

Technical difficulties in the studio are addressed following the failure of a TLA 5052 tube preamp. The loss of the equipment has affected the audio quality, resulting in a less "boomy" sound. The discussion mentions listener-contributed gear, including an antique 1950s oscilloscope and various police scanners, while emphasizing the need for high-end replacement hardware to maintain broadcast standards.

tla 5052· tube preamp· studio equipment· oscilloscope· ham radio· gear failure

13:24 Oh yeah, maybe. I just thought it should be in the show notes because we're gonna... Because i think one of our donors mentions that or somebody does. Okay well then I'll wait with it because it is from Pilots for 9-11 Truth which I am a member of And I so, um...I am of course. Yeah well stay for the second half of the show It's not a second half it is pretty much first half You know this is water under the bridge at this point The Reichstag has been burnt to the ground and Hitler's in power what are we gonna do? Let's just get back to work and forget about it Oh boy Hey citizen just get back to work slave Exactly. Yeah, how does my mic sound because do you remember what happened on Thursday right after the show? Yeah your mic fell apart it wasn't my mic it was finally

14:11 The TLA 5052, the tube preamp blew up. Oh no! The TLT5052! It's the TLA 5052. Oh No! Well that's it I mean that's...I can't replace that is too expensive You don't sound as boomy Yeah well you're gonna have to buy that Gates compressor What I have is a just had from the roadshow I had a little portable tube amp so I hooked that up Sucks really sucks. You know people are sending me oscilloscopes and ham gear what we need is like a decent decent Gear for the show I swear to God one of our somebody sent you an oscilloscope. Oh, no one of our producers Really nice guy Robert the n4i XT

15:04 He basically sent me his grandfather's radio shack. So I've got like police scanners, but it's an oscilloscope from 1950. Oh cool! And it works! You turn on and all the lights in the house dim. And he sent me magazines... Our postal carrier Jeannie you know one who is hot for Ms. Mickey She's like, what are you doing? You're killing me. I have to carry all this stuff to your door every single time What's in there just an oscilloscope baby don't worry about it nothing nothing to see here Oh Yeah So what we need is a new TLA 5052 really but I think this will have to do this will have to do

CHAPTER 05 / 35 Discussion

Knight Sam Arrest, New York City Drone Art

No Agenda producer Adam Atiyah, known as Knight Sam, was arrested in New York City on 56 counts including criminal possession of a forged instrument and grand larceny. Atiyah gained notoriety for a "Banksy-level" art project where he placed realistic-looking drone warning signs and NYPD surveillance posters in bus stops and street signs. The arrest also involved a weapons charge for an unloaded .22 caliber rifle found during a house search.

adam atiyah· knight sam· drone signs· nypd· criminal possession· banksy· performance art

15:53 In the morning to you, John C. Dvorak! In the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and in the morning to all the dames and knights out there who are supporting this show and keeping us going week after week uh... in the morning to everyone. And in the morning to all of the human resources I see them lined up charged up ready to go there in the chat room at noagendastream dot com no agenda chat dot net Well, one of our knights got arrested. We knew all about this knight and we were sworn to secrecy as Knight S-A-M Adam Atiyah

16:33 Who became the night in Jersey City? Who's a very talented artist by the way a photographer and He I think I think he does some digital manipulation this photography as well. I mean it is the guy is and his works You know, he's successful and he was the guy who put all those drone signs up in New York City Yeah great great great gag a very Banksy level gag high-level high-level art And I guess where he kind of went wrong is he also put them in the latest... So first, he did this street signs and that was very no agenda like. But then he went into the bus stops and put the New York City police you know, We're watching you and then we've got our drone eye on you! And that of course pissed off the cops so they busted into his house

17:26 They have charged him with 56, 56 counts of criminal possession of a forged instrument which I guess means the key to open up the bus displays. Grand larceny possession of stolen property not sure what that is. What's stolen property? Yeah! I don't know what that is and they found an unloaded .22 under his bed That's no so good in New York So thats a weapons charge He's out on bail though I haven't spoken to him But of course we send him much love and karma. We've been watching this unfold for months now, and we've known that he was doing it but of course we couldn't say anything. We couldn't say who he was etc... I think you did a couple interviews and that's probably where it went wrong. Well, you know, that's the problem that this is almost like hackers have this problem

18:23 They'll do something and then they can't just, you know. I mean the guy Banksy that street artist who's done more than a few malicious mischief gags in London and elsewhere even though some people don't know him they do know him he really maintains a low profile to the point where he doesn't... He gets out of his system in other ways without having to go out do interviews. I mean, that was a mistake. Yeah yeah but and i thought that they would bust him for uh because when he took when he opened those bus displays and put his poster in there over the who was paying to be there. I think it was a complaint that came from the, you know, Advan or whoever runs them. I actually think they were empty. I think that the ones he put them in...that he was not pasting over something. That's what I remember but I'm not sure. Oh okay well yeah He'll get in touch with me but anyway The whole thing is You know they've got to throw this case out because

19:23 This is a actually great piece of performance art. There's nothing illegal about that. Yeah, and how about the 22 under the bed? It's empty! It's New York City man you're not allowed to have any kind of weapon without license It's not this. Well, that was a mistake. Yeah, that was a mistake and although it could have been planted What would you do with the 22 anyway? Bloop bloop I know it couldn't and by the way The cops are now admitting they plant drugs all the time on people So yeah who knows but isn't i don't trust anybody And my light did this night of ours he said he's a good-looking guy to his successful good looking

20:02 I'll post his website. Well then he will do well in court when he pleads this case? I think so, too. He has a decent lawyer still gonna cost him 40 grand Oh man...I sure hope not We have a PR associate today that would like to say in the morning too and her name is Beck Fry B-E-K-K This is very good policy people tell us whether you're male or female In particular because when she did her little PR associates stunt She was called out as a guy and she did this on Tekzilla. Are you familiar with this program Tekzilla?

CHAPTER 06 / 35 Discussion

Tekzilla Podcast, Linux Folder Naming Tips

A critique of the tech show Tekzilla leads into a technical tip for Linux users regarding the podcast downloader Moreau. PR associate Beck Fry provides advice on renaming podcast folders to avoid spaces, which can cause issues in Linux environments. The hosts reflect on the evolution of tech television from TechTV to modern web shows like This Week in Tech.

tekzilla· veronica belmont· patrick norton· linux· moreau· podcasting

20:41 Yeah, we all know Tekzilla. Yeah sucks balls this is a horrible show I had to sit through this entire thing just to get it really wasn't that Robert what's his name Norton? Norton! What's his name the guy who he's on twit all the time too yeah what's his name Norton Norton it was at its first name or last name now did we just call him Norton and then the other guy the TV home theater? I haven't seen this show since Victoria, Veronica Victoria. Veronica Belmont left. Victoria Balmont! Well this show sucks balls, but I guess a lot of people watch it. Oh no they love the show is beloved Okay, bro to me It was like oh and the way he starts to show off He's like get a grip man anyway doesn't matter if a lot of people watch it That's good because here is Beck Beck fries PR associate move essentially that's an open source podcast has been around for much years really good stuff And back also had some tips on using moreau in Linux

21:39 He wrote, Moreau creates a folder for each of your podcast subscriptions inside the download folder you choose. Linux hates folder names with spaces so when you add a podcast in Moreau on either OS unless it has one word title like Tekzilla right click on its name in the sidebar and rename it No Agenda Show no dash agenda dash show instead of No Agenda Show for example and make sure you name the podcast the exact same Three times! So how would you dislike this show? I love this show I gotta be honest. Well the show is... I don't like much, we have a good show and that's about it. The tech shows you don't like any of them but

22:21 no i do i don't know is that is the is the exact is the follow-up show it started with uh... leo show on tech tv and then evolve from one showed to another two another and by including we had it on the uh... little where was doing cranky geeks we had a version of it they've been involved in involved in a ball didn't ended up as texas illa on their network and uh... with veronica norton not me and uh... what let me just say I really like This Week in Tech when you're on it or when i'm on it. That's what it's been and then it's a really good show. Yeah, see this is really good show If I was on Tekzilla you'd probably like it? Yeah! I probably would because then it would be actually non-boring You're a non boring kind of guy why else do you think I hang out with you twice a week? Anyway... So man crush?

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Internship Applicants, Resume Reviews

The show reviews several "internship" applications from listeners, including a former Jeopardy winner who won $36,000. Applicant Ashley Hurst is highlighted for her diverse resume, which includes running an Etsy shop, building a cabin on San Juan Island, and catering high-end events at Bill Gates' private dock in Seattle.

jeopardy· etsy· bill gates· san juan island· resumes· internship

23:15 Yeah, that would be it's a daddy thing. I have daddy issues. I got him. I get a male admirer Yeah, I guess I got mail. I got several probably have shitloads I Got the secretaries did you get any secretary emails? You've got beer emails right? I got secretary email I got all the beer emails Okay, and make beer alright send your bottle so we got three We got Three no two good-looking guys and one good looking girl The first good-looking guy who posed I got it before you emails Casey Hardesty he posed in his Mason outfit, he's a 30 32nd degree Scottish Rite Freemason and not just in the morning He says so. He sent me that then he also sent the picture naked with the towel over as ding dong Which is good because now I asked anybody sends you that picture because they said good looking guys are welcome to

24:13 Huh? Yeah. Then Jason... Well, thank God they didn't send me anything! Then we got Jason who's bald he has a killer resume by the way he was a winner on Jeopardy he won $36,000 on Jeopardy That's funny I've known two people that were on Jeopardy So i think he might be a good guy for remember this is like an internship This is a non-paying job We got no money But then the best one is Ashley Hurst And Ashley, very cute. She sent a picture of herself in the car self-made and she sent her resume and she had an eye catching resume I'd like to just highlight a few things So currently her career history October 2011 to present She is on Etsy Antiques Ash I guess whatever that is

25:10 She enjoys taking photos with a lovely Canon 5d mark to keeping records of records of finances shipping and making her own schedule This is very good. This is this just like us Shipping antiques and vintage items worldwide with over 120 sales you see how she could she could do rings, right? You could keep our schedules make sure we get to our appointments on time then in February 2010 to October 2011 she took a year off from She bought land on San Juan Island. She hiked and started building a cabin, she did waterways catering in Seattle as she was galley chef where her responsibilities were bringing guests to Bill Gates' dock making said guests a ton of food they didn't eat and catering high-end events And at Schultz's Sausage she stuffed meat heated buns and reheated frozen soup I mean can you feel that this woman is gonna be perfect for us?

26:08 Well, I want to apologize then to Tanya Foster or Dame Foster who's a well our actress in residence who offered to do this probably in 2010 yeah And then I never followed up with her it was she never sent the naked picture Oh, this is not about a second. I'm getting naked pictures. Bye-bye. Oh, I get a second I get what you're after Please I didn't get that part Is there anyone we need to thank today before we move on Joe cuz I got we do have a couple of pictures It's just called you Joe Joe C. Dvorak, I'm just calling you Joe from now on! I don't know what that's all about... Can i call you Joe? Sure! Yeah because you're gonna call me O'Dvorak Sven Middelkoop Hey Sven Middelkoop And he is in Delft Gaal Delft Gaal In Holland and he's standing 41419

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, 12-12-12 Promotion

Executive producers Sven Middelkoop and Mike Keeler are recognized for their financial support. The segment also promotes the upcoming "12-12-12" date, encouraging listeners to participate in a special donation drive on December 12, 2012, which is noted as a once-in-a-lifetime numerical event.

sven middelkoop· mike keeler· 12-12-12· donations· executive producers

27:09 For some reason he's the executive producer for this show. Thanks as always for your important input to my thoughts and discussions in doing The work so I don't have to there's a special combo donation for both no agenda and the DSC which we are still enjoying especially drunk Adam dead artist episode 864 So everyone out there go listen to Adam drunk by the way one drink, and he's drunk What a lightweight? Which made us sing out loud with joy again today? Oh Please fire an in the morning little girl yay shot to celebrate the show and an anonymous karma shot to everyone who needs it but doesn't know it yet. Cheers, Sven! Alrighty... we can do that for ya? You've got Karma

28:00 And along with this fan do we have Mike Keeler in Las Vegas, Lost Wages Nevada. Hold on a second what do you think 41419? That's got to mean something I don't want just want to gloss over it because he always looks at... 41419! Come in come in 401 49 come in come in I don't know either sounds like a code of some sort yeah Mike Healer in Lost Wages 3 4 5 6 7 Which makes him a executive producer right on he could use a little karma for his business. You've got Karma nice, and that's that oh Nice not so really yes it yeah, I saw we got well We do this means me to give more and more ribald tales

28:57 Well let's start with something I... Hold on, hold on a second. First we have to tell people where they can support the show so you know they should go to noagendashow.com and click on the donation button or go to Dvorak.org slash NA or channel dvorak dot com slash na and click on one of these little programs we have all kinds of things you could do and we have coming up 12-12-12 in 10 days! Oh my goodness that is... 12-12-12 Is that only ten days away? 12121 of the great this is the only time in your entire lifetime that you'll have a 12 1212 okay so here happening and he's we're gonna do more as Wednesday I'm going to anchor this or gonna anchor this so whenever you hear the number twelve you can think 12 12 12 for a dot org slash n a much right one more time John

29:46 12122 or twelve twelve twelve dot org slash what a well isn't it well you can do all right do it again. Twelve twelve twelve to four right there you go org slash n a of course we have another program for those who are broke go out our formula is this, We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up! Shut up slave

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

Dr. Oz, Time Magazine, PR Puff Pieces

An op-ed in Time Magazine by Dr. Oz titled "Give Frozen Peas a Chance" is exposed as a likely PR-generated puff piece. Identical text and photos appeared simultaneously under the byline of a "Dr. Nagual" on Newsvine. The articles, which defend industrial beef and frozen foods, contain word-for-word identical personal anecdotes about living in a vegetarian household, suggesting neither doctor actually wrote the content.

dr. oz· time magazine· dr. nagual· pr agency· frozen peas· meat industry

30:26 So uh... Shut up. Just shut up! So I think, I think there was one of those situations that happened in the media that just-I always laugh about when they happen where two people were given an exclusive right to the same exact story from a PR agency Unfortunately for one of them, Dr. Oz... Yeah? So my wife calls me up and she says hey! Hey husband Hey husband, Dr. Oz is a douchebag! He wrote this op-ed in Time Magazine saying that crappy beef that you get in the feedlots as good as any grass fed anytime and he went on and on I read the piece so you can read it in Time magazine And I advise everybody out there to look up It's titled Dr. Oz give frozen foods a chance No give frozen peas a chance You know what actually says

31:25 That's funny because on the title bar, the title of the page it says give frozen foods and in the title of the story does indeed say give in brackets, in parentheses, frozen peas a chance and carrots too. Yeah. Oh we are saved! So I... here is the irony of this and the reason that I stumbled across references This is the ironic part as far as I'm concerned. For people out there who run into firewalls, like Time Magazine won't let me read the whole article

32:03 So I... Paywall is what that's called. Yeah, paywall. It's a paywall so I type in you can do this yourself give frozen peas P-E-A-S which it gets upon give frozen peas a chance just type that in and you get first of all you get the exact same title of a 2010 article written by a woman in Canada for McLean's magazine which has much of the same idea in the article but more importantly get this thing on Newsvine by this bald doctor named Nagual. Dr. Nagual, yes and he's a bald guy and here is the article and it came out at exact same time give frozen peas a chance and carrots too its the same article Same pictures even they got the picture of the carrots and the peas It came two photos

32:51 So what is... Wait a minute, now did Dr. Nagual write this or did Dr. Oz write this? And why is Time Magazine running obviously a puff piece from some PR agency and somebody's gonna have their tit in the ringer on this one because you can't do this! This wasn't written by either one of them. And you're telling me that both Dr Nagwal and Dr Oz have this line, I live in a vegetarian household so i simply don't have the opportunity to eat a lot of meat at family meals but I'm not supposed to meats that are served in an appropriate portion size and are well prepared your first step is deciding what kind of meat you want and how you want to cook it

33:38 So that is in both these articles exactly word for word. When did you turn into the gay doctor? I kind of like that, that's kind of cool do it again! How do you like your meat?! And he goes on this is from the same article written this time reading from The Dr. Ne'Guel version there's no question by the way if you look at Dr. Ne'Guel history of articles and Newsvine. It's quite fascinating because he writes about everything, and now I believe that most of his stuff has been handed to him. I don't think the guy is even real it's probably just a name they put up there on news via with some you know some stock album art from iStockphoto.com That's a possibility. Bald guy doctor looking. Now since we're working on this thin margins today let me give another personal anecdote

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

Fake Columnists, Pat McGovern, Media Manipulation

John C. Dvorak recounts a story about IDG founder Pat McGovern using fake columnists in trade publications like InfoWorld. These fictional personas would write scathing critiques of major companies like IBM to provoke a reaction; when the companies complained, McGovern would "fire" the fake columnist to appease the advertiser, only to replace them with a new fictional entity to target a different company.

pat mcgovern· computerworld· infoworld· ibm· advertisers· fake columnists

34:32 So, uh... because this is to give people an understanding of the way the media works. And when they're like my wife calling being all upset about this not realizing she actually kind of senses was done by so she that Dr Oz has sold out the Monsanto! That's what she says. So Pat McGovern, the big CEO of digital, owns Computer World and InfoWorld and PC World. One time he told me this story because we had a fake columnist in InfoWorld when I was editor there because this was McGovern's concept

35:18 McGovern would have a fake columnist with it, with the bio and everything. And he'd be writing... He'd write these nasty editorials and it would go like this. He writes some nasty... McGovern I think was either writing these or one of his buddies was. Write this nasty editorial about some company IBM let's say. So they'd be that IBM sucks! They stink! They do this in their crap and they do their stuff and they're dripping you on there all rest of it but there were also advertisers So they, IBM would come back to him and say this is terrible what this guy said about us. We worked at a... stop our advertising we're gonna pull our ads up just you know this guy you let me get away with it so they said that we fired him so yes exactly what McGovern did he says okay I'm with you this was unfair were firing him. That's great! They fired the fake guy and put another fake guy in who did the same thing only against Oracle

36:16 And it endeared him to the advertisers. But see this is exactly what publishers do, this is why people want to own The New York Times which was owned by a Mexican I might point out This is why people want to own big periodicals, why they want to own television mainly for their own jollies just to get off on it McGovern, whatever his name is. McCracken McGovern I'm sure he had some alternate ulterior motive and I am sure he had his hand in something this is how elites operate everywhere case-in-point who knew when we were talking about Susan E Rice

CHAPTER 11 / 35 Discussion

Susan Rice, Financial Disclosures, Keystone XL

U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice faces scrutiny over her financial disclosure forms, which reveal a net worth of approximately $20 million. Critics point to her significant holdings in TransCanada, the firm behind the Keystone XL pipeline, as a potential conflict of interest for a future Secretary of State. Her portfolio also includes substantial investments in gold mining stocks, Monsanto, and various pharmaceutical companies.

susan rice· transcanada· keystone xl· financial disclosure· gold stocks· monsanto

36:52 Who knew? Who knew?! Meanwhile, Susan Rice is receiving criticism of a different kind after it was revealed she holds up to $600,000 worth of stock in the firm behind the controversial Keystone XL oil pipeline. TransCanada's seeking federal permission to transport Canadian tar sands oil to the US Gulf Coast if confirmed as Secretary of State, Rice could play a key role in determining the fate of the pipeline So to me, the story is Susan Rice has 600 $1,000 to invest dude it turns out she has 20 million dollars 20 million dollars. Do you know since she was a millionaire a multi-millionaire this little job? This is the story that no everyone's overlooking It's just like Oh Susan E Rice has six hundred thousand dollars invested in the in the cut in the company That's gonna do are you kidding me so I Was blown away some like let me take a look at this Let me take a look at her disclosure form oh my god

37:51 This woman is loaded and you know what she's investing in? Gold stocks, tons of it. That's her number one asset purchase in 2011. Gold stocks, gold mining stocks including Monsanto She's in everything! First of all the fact that she has 25 million dollar net worth blows me away from her days at McKinsey apparently Oh come on I mean how many people at McKinsey have made 20 million dollars? This is the story. Who gives a crap if she's Secretary of State! Well, how does she get loaded and how can i do that as little twerp? Well you gotta be plugged in from... She was apparently at McKinsey for two years And she made $20 million and then after that she was just in government service? Well she went to Oxford and worked for the Clinton campaign

38:45 to find a machine was apparent the only thing you see is it from mid-1990 she received her she got her degree in oxford and then she worked it's hard to say she was even there that long. She was a management consultant which is not where you make your millions like we are I mean look at us yeah we're management consultants how's that working out? Where's my 20 million? She served in the Clinton administration for national security council from 93 to 97, she was in the government the rest of the time If you see her portfolio, by the way. It's a stellar portfolio John Absolutely stellar although she bought Apple. Let's see when is she buy Apple?

39:22 She didn't buy a lot. But the most, it's great to look at these disclosure forms and you know how I love reading forms? I really do! I get off...I get hard just looking at this stuff but i was blown away she's got all kinds of oil and pipeline stocks How can this woman who is...she helped eliminate Gaddafi in Libya she shouldn't be able to invest with all this foreign knowledge she has pharmaceutical stocks Like she doesn't know what's going on with the big pharma? This should not be possible. This really should not be possible." And it was based on this that I'm like, you know let me look up Hillary Clinton Now Hillary of course she is smart because everything that she has is in a blind trust but all her books are in there but she also has to disclose everything that her spouse has done

CHAPTER 12 / 35 Discussion

Bill Clinton, ICANN Speaking Fees, San Francisco

Former President Bill Clinton received $255,000 for a speech at an ICANN meeting in San Francisco. Despite ICANN's status as a non-profit and claims that the fee was covered by private sponsorship, no specific sponsors were identified at the event. The speech is criticized as "canned" material, and the high fee is questioned given that ICANN's revenue is derived from internet domain name registrations.

bill clinton· icann· speaking fees· silicon valley· non-profit· domain names

40:17 And so, you know Billy Boy has all these... it's all hidden away. You can't see anything but what he has disclosed which is very interesting By the way I think Billy Boy will be the first billionaire that was a president of the United States and never worked a day in his life How does that work? Well let me tell you what i found out about him and this is actually very convenient timing we're talking about this because we have the big internet freedom conference coming up Right? The big ITU thing, which I also read and want to talk to you about. So Billy Boy has disclosed all of his speaking engagements and the fees he received for them in 2011. Now that's interesting! I'll read through this. Oh! Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers in San Francisco

41:08 I'm like, wow! And then I looked at how much money I can the people who... The non-profit, I might add. Who hand out internet domain names This is basically what they do. It's not the INA, it's not the names association you know the address spacing... This is a group that manages it all? This is a bunch of elitist douchebags who are just making money and smoking tube with everybody They paid Bill Clinton $255,000 for his speech Let me just give you the first minute of this speech so you understand what kind of life this guy has.

41:48 Thank you very much, Rod, Peter and the ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for the warm welcome. Thank you for the wonderful introduction. Thanks to the starfish and spider by the way. It's thanks for the starfish? Right! That was a uncompensated flak I just did. Good look. And thank you for giving me a reason to come to Northern California. Thanks for giving me a reason? You had $255,000 worth of reason! In New York it's still winter. I'm so excited Bill Clinton is talking. I can see him anything he says is funny

42:30 I brought my daughter and my son-in-law, they went to Stanford. He brought his kids along on the jet! They're saying friends they've heard this speech before And they've heard this speech because he does the same lame ass speech everywhere for a quarter of a million dollars? But i'm delighted to be here So uh...I'm looking around like this is an outrage that why did no one think this is a nonprofit that makes its money from MY DOMAIN NAME PURCHASE That's part of how they make their money not much but as part of it And I'm like, where's the outrage? And then there is a note here from ICANN. A few blogs and swarm of tweets have announced that former President Bill Clinton will speak at ICANN Silicon Valley San Francisco public meeting in March. Some are asking why ICANN hasn't announced this yet. Well it is true we have invited and he has accepted but still working on contract without formal announcement cannot be made

43:28 And then we've seen some wildly inflated figures of what President Clinton will be paid to speak. His speaking fees are a matter of public record and you can rest assured that the half million and million dollar figures some have reported are way out of line! The fees, by the way, will be covered by targeted sponsorship donated specifically for this purpose In other words ICANN's budget is not financing this speaking engagement Well let me tell ya something There was no sponsor, I looked everywhere. There was nothing on stage there was no sponsorship and it was $255 million dollars ICANN. A thousand? A thousand! It was a million billion billion dollars Joe two hundred fifty five thousand dollars. It's disgusting it's just disgusting that this is going on with it with and listen to the speech

44:19 Just canned crap the guy just pulls out of his arsehole. You might as well get a tape recording of one of his other speeches and play that with a dummy up there. It might be cheaper! It would be cheaper. So anyway, so that was and I'll get into the ITU stuff later on but I was just like fascinated about Susan Rice just to get back to that and The kind of money that she has and how on the inside all these people are this I mean This has got to stop. I can't believe then no one is saying six hundred thousand dollars Where did she get that money to invest?

44:55 And by the way, it's not exactly 600. It's on the $600,000 and up to a million box on her disclosure form so it could be a million dollars. The press is just... they don't even care! Doesn't anyone look at Wikipedia and go... No, the press doesn't care. I care! I really do care how did she make that money? That's what i want to know. We know what Hillary Clinton didn't make the money for. I don't think everybody who works for McKinsey & Company for a couple of years walks away with 20 million dollars. I don't think anyone who walks in McKinsey for a couple years walked over that kind of money unless it something happened somewhere okay I don't know but I would like to know

CHAPTER 13 / 35 Discussion

MSNBC Diversity Discussion, Susan Rice Criticism

A segment on MSNBC featuring Karen Finney is analyzed for its use of identity politics to defend Susan Rice. The commentary suggests that criticism of Rice, Eric Holder, and Lisa Jackson is rooted in racism rather than policy disagreements. The hosts argue that this framing is a tactic to avoid discussing the actual issues or the personal wealth of the officials in question.

msnbc· karen finney· susan rice· racism· identity politics· diversity

45:36 And I think it just blew me away all of a sudden to have a whole new perspective on Susan E. Rice, the e for e cash is just wow! So um... Well i have a rice clip. I have a rice clip too but do you want me to-I have kind of throwaway like a race thing? No mine's about the Palestinian thing and so we'll talk about that separately. You can play hers yours. So this is MSNBC And this is Karen Finney. I think she was an operative in the Democratic Party at one point, and they have this roundtable program which is a bunch of old wives bitching at each other...

46:28 Let me just roll it now and then you can hear how racism is being incited on television. A lot also on human rights has been one of her key issues, and she's done a lot at the UN with regard to women, LGBT community disabled people... She's talking about Susan Rice! I mean she sounds like a saint! LGBT people disabled children with cleft palates everything yeah there was oh there was a puppy she helps puppies that are underground. I worked with her in the Clinton administration you know, very tenacious. Very intelligent woman. Very strong-willed and I guess one of the things as a woman that i don't like is that some of the criticism of her if this was a man these would all be positive attributes but as a woman it's like... This really has to stop

47:14 As a woman, I think. This has to stop! If anyone... if a man went on television and said as a man there would be hell to pay this has to stop okay? if you want equality you've got to stop this but she took it so much further well you know she's a little feisty and she you know... I think the word is torpy McCain says that she's not very bright This is the one that went to Oxford and has a PhD, who has an incredible career serving as public servant. And to say that... Public servant with 20 million dollars? Exactly! This is my point this why I get so worked up about it. It's like, public servant all her life And she's, and somehow she was fixing broken puppies and messed up children and LGBT and women. So she found $20 million as a public servant. And to say that is remember how well it worked out when they called Sonia Sotomayor not very bright and all those sort of things. The press did that I will say but here comes the Hispanic vote. At some point they need to pay attention to the fact that what's the list? It's Van Jones, Susan Rice

48:16 Eric Holder, Lisa Jackson. Gee they all happen to have dark skin. They do have that in common. No no they all happen to be douchebags! That it to me it blows me away that's in 2012 someone can go on television and say this is the list of people who've been criticized they're all black therefore it's KKK! It blows my mind and no one questioned this No. The best, the smartest people I know are repeating this meme! They're repeating this! Anyway... So uh- They won't talk about the issues they just talk about the superficial oh well their dark skin therefore they must be being criticized because of that not because there assholes Well i said douchebags but you may take it one step further absolutely

CHAPTER 14 / 35 Discussion

Palestine UN Status Upgrade, Susan Rice Speech

The United Nations General Assembly voted to upgrade Palestine to "non-member observer state" status. US Ambassador Susan Rice delivered a harsh condemnation of the vote, which the hosts compare to a historical oratory style. The primary concern for the US and Israel is that this new status allows Palestine to access international bodies like the International Criminal Court (ICC) to file war crimes charges.

united nations· palestine· non-member observer state· susan rice· international criminal court

49:12 So I was just like, wow man. Wow, wow, wow, wow, big surprise there! Miss Rich... Susan E. Ritchie Rice That's what she is all about. Alright, where is your Rice clip? Let us get into Palestine because I got something to play in that. Well, the Palestine... Okay, the Palestine...I found out and figured it out well maybe you figured it out too. Why its a big deal! Yeah, I know why They weren't recognized as a country but they were just given new status Upgrade, upgrade They are upgraded Upgraded to even more space And of course Susan Rice comes on to condemn the whole thing and now that I think about it I don't remember hearing her speak at the United Nations much

49:52 let alone give a harangue. And she basically screams when she talks, she's a lousy public speaker! Separate Jewish and Arab states after the world body granted Palestine non-member status UN ambassador Susan Rice US Ambassador to the U.N., Susan Rice strongly condemned the decision Progress towards a just and lasting two-state solution cannot be made by pressing a green voting button here in this hall. Nor does passing any resolution create a state where none indeed exists or change the reality on the ground for this reason today's vote

50:34 should not be misconstrued by any as constituting eligibility for UN membership. It does not! This resolution does not establish that Palestine is a state The United States believes the current resolution should not and cannot be read as establishing terms of reference. Did she go to the Adolf Hitler School of Public Speaking? That's what I'm thinking, she sounds like William G Harding or something in the turn-of-the century. We have... The status has been upgraded! This does not mean you're a state at all! Shut up, slave!

51:13 That's exactly it. Man, she's... What kind of speaking? What classes did she take in public speaking? Hey! Do the dishes!! Can you imagine- She's married to an ABC News producer I might point out. She's married to who? Cameron, ABC News producer. No, on ABC News. Oh yeah, of course, of course, of course. I have a clip that uh, that explains... ABC, that's your connection again. Of course. Can I give you the clip that tells what the real problem is with this upgrade? Okay, because I have a clip that does the same thing. Getting state status is what empowers the Palestinians What defines our territory as occupied? What defines our relationship regionally and with the rest of the world And what gives us access to international organizations and agencies The Israelis fear that the Palestinians will use their new status To take Israel to the International Criminal Court Yeah! On charges of war crimes in Gaza and elsewhere

CHAPTER 15 / 35 Discussion

Democratic Party, Israel-Palestine Bumper Stickers

The discussion shifts to the political climate in Berkeley, California, focusing on the prevalence of "Free Palestine" and "Obama-Biden" bumper stickers on Toyota Priuses. The hosts discuss the perceived hypocrisy of activists who labeled George W. Bush a war criminal but remain silent on President Obama's foreign policy and drone strikes.

berkeley· prius· bumper stickers· democratic party· netanyahu· war crimes

52:10 Which is why they and the US fought against it. The reality... Did I piss you off because I had the clip that explains it? Well, I have a shorter clip that explains it! Oh okay let's play that one where we only see which one is it? Let's see... oh I have another what well where is it where is it? Another what? Oh key to Palestinian move was at the clip yeah that would be it. This is a minor change of status by the way mine was also 28 seconds okay for Palestine within the United Nations there have been a number of different states that have had this status and eventually moved to full recognition as member states in the past right now it does not change

52:53 anything really on the ground for the Palestinians but affords them some opportunities to address grievances in other international institutions like the International Criminal Court and so on. Which of course is bullcrap because America doesn't recognize the International Criminal Court, otherwise they'd all be in jail Well, there's a couple of things. Just don't recognize it just say it's not real We don't but the liberal base of the Democrat Party wants to Okay okay and so you got this thing oh no and also the liberal base of the Democrat party

53:29 Tends to be you know they tend to be Jew haters. Oh really I forgot about that yeah, we gotta remember They're the ones that pulled that whole thing out of the Democratic Convention Document and then shoved it in when Israel got pissed off right Yeah, man a Jew haters okay? Let me just get this straight let me write it down a second Democratic Party Jew haters okay got it Yeah, even though there's a lot of obviously there's a lot of self-loathing Jews in there too. But okay so they're Jew haters and they're all pro... I'm telling you this from the basis of the bumper stickers Hold on a second can you imagine if this were like a real show on a real network it would be like uh hi um there's a phone call for Joe C. Dvorak yeah you're fired Exactly

54:19 Yes, I want to remind people out there that we talk in these terms. We can discuss this sort of thing openly because we have no sponsors Anyway, so let's just go with the premise that I'm trying to develop here. And and I based this by the way on the bumper stickers that you see in cars in Berkeley mostly on Priuses. And it says Israel out of Palestine. First it says Obama Biden 2012 then it says Israel out of Palestine! You know free Palestine! And a fish sticker like one those Fish God things or not? Yeah well sometimes but its got legs whatever

54:57 It's got these, you know... I can take photos. I can put photos to prove my point So they got the situation they're developing and now so they're going to encourage The Palestinians I guarantee they're gonna start filing documents Oh, you know a plane bombed us Yeah We want to file more criminal act against Netanyahu And then we you know and then thing is this is gonna lead to I mean, the Democrats in this area... Lots of paperwork. I want to ask the question if George Bush was a war criminal because these same bumper stickers say impeach bush used to be on all these Priuses mm-hmm how come they put up with Obama being a war criminal of the highest order? Why do you even try who gives a crap

55:42 Who gives a crap? That's a... I give the crap. It goes nowhere. And by the way, I think a wealth tax would be in order Hey! I have another Susan E. Richie Rice clip here about Palestine. I like the whole concept of the upgrade though. I thought it was a cutesy way to put it You know you're not really a passenger, but you still get like the extra legroom. Oh give me your free drinks now Come on can't put you in we can't put you in business class mr.. Curry because we know We had to downgrade you but you have free drinks the whole way to Hawaii Your voices today are spot-on I really I'm really really liking it oh

CHAPTER 16 / 35 Discussion

Carbon Tax, IMF, Polar Bear Propaganda

IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde is promoting a global carbon tax, estimated at $23 per metric ton. The hosts argue that media imagery of polar bears on melting ice is used as emotional propaganda to condition the public for this new tax. They claim the specific footage often used is misleading, as polar bears are capable swimmers and their populations are not currently in decline.

carbon tax· christine lagarde· imf· polar bears· global warming· agenda 21

56:30 Alright, well while we kind of are looking at PR moves. Wow! Was there a big one that's on the way right now? Of course what we're trying to do as part of the Agenda 21 is we are trying to condition the slaves of the United States of Gitmo Nation into accepting a tax on the air that you exhale – the so-called carbon tax And this is the, not the World Bank, what's the IMF and Christine Lagarde. I've already pegged this at $23 per metric ton. Oh, shit! So it's a great scam all good to go right now we just have to condition people into getting ready for it so not only in this news report and actually I'll mention that when it comes up and its Diana Shire

57:23 It was intros are very short if you notice and they also they all start the same way. All right next on this Friday we have breaking news, all right next week have and that's all she can do it and then making them really sure her intro is because smoke comes out of your ear if she tries if its more than 20 second intro So the inconvenient truth doesn't really work anymore, although they're still using the footage of the iceberg crashing and the polar bear on the ice. On the piece of floating ice I swear to God it's in this clip and they even have sweetened it with people yelling like you know like The Titanic is sinking. I swear to god you'll hear that's terrible but its promoting... You know the story behind that polar bear on that ice?

58:06 Yeah, they can swim fine. They love swimming he was chilling out. He was no this is no There was a there was a ship nearby there some guy reported this and the polar bears are really curious. And then the polar bear was swimming around, he wanted to get a better look at this little ice flow. Yeah took a dump... And they took a picture of it as though this is the end of the world! The polar bear! There's more polar bears today than there were when the whole global warming thing began. All right so now there's two things happening here and it is in concert and I can prove it to you because we have a new movie, a new documentary coming out which

58:43 Is just like that escape fire is something that you have it shown in your town get it to your movie theater And when I mentioned all the people behind it and its mentioned in this piece But there's also another another report Let's come out about the polar ice melting three times faster than ever before Imagine so I can give you the report from all the news networks are in on everybody is in on okay. This is this is Whether you believe in it or not, this is propaganda that is being shoved up your rectum. And we turn next to news today about the changing climate. Hurricane season ended today and it is official! This was the third worst season since records began 161 years ago

CHAPTER 17 / 35 Discussion

2012 Hurricane Season, ABC News Metrics

ABC News and Diane Sawyer are criticized for their reporting on the 2012 hurricane season, which they labeled the "third worst" based on the number of named storms. The hosts debunk the significance of having 19 named storms, noting that many were minor Atlantic depressions that never made landfall. They also mock the "sweetened" audio effects used in news packages to make weather events seem more dramatic.

diane sawyer· hurricane sandy· tropical storms· climate change· abc news

58:06 Yeah, they can swim fine. They love swimming he was chilling out. He was no this is no There was a there was a ship nearby there some guy reported this and the polar bears are really curious. And then the polar bear was swimming around, he wanted to get a better look at this little ice flow. Yeah took a dump... And they took a picture of it as though this is the end of the world! The polar bear! There's more polar bears today than there were when the whole global warming thing began. All right so now there's two things happening here and it is in concert and I can prove it to you because we have a new movie, a new documentary coming out which

58:43 Is just like that escape fire is something that you have it shown in your town get it to your movie theater And when I mentioned all the people behind it and its mentioned in this piece But there's also another another report Let's come out about the polar ice melting three times faster than ever before Imagine so I can give you the report from all the news networks are in on everybody is in on okay. This is this is Whether you believe in it or not, this is propaganda that is being shoved up your rectum. And we turn next to news today about the changing climate. Hurricane season ended today and it is official! This was the third worst season since records began 161 years ago

59:24 The third worst season! John, do you know how Diane Sawyer has come up with this fantastic metric? That it was the third worst season since we started counting 10 million years ago. In a typical year there are 12 named storms This year we had 19 Named storms Can you name all nineteen storms That's the that's the metric? That's the metric. How much it could in typical years 12 we had the most ever 19 named storms I can't remember more than two or sandy Sandy right now hold on Sandy and Irene, I think we had Irene was that last year. I don't know I don't remember anything but Sandy there were nineteen well let's listen to a minute Let me wait wait ABCDEFG

1:00:17 F-G-H-I-J K L M N O P Is S the 19th? What letter is s on the uh, because it starts with A and it goes to S so that has to be uh... nineteen there right. What the hell are you talking about?! This number of storms would be reflective of the names! Yeah but the names aren't in alphabetical order Yes they are No they're not yes they are no they're not yes they are It's not true! It IS true Alright, hold on a second then. Storm names in 2012... I mean you're really really bringing me down dude Here we go hurricane names 2012 They're not in alphabetical order makes absolutely no sense 2012 uh here we go My god! You're right they are in order Chris Debbie Ernesto Oh remember how bad Ernesto was? Florence Gordon

1:01:20 Hel-Helene, Isaac, Joyce, Kirk. Wow, Kirk was a pain in the ass. Leslie, Michael, Nadine Oscar, Patty, Raphael, Sandy Tony Valerie and William Wait a minute That's more than 18 storms or 19 storms No that's 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Ooh I only have 18! I only get 18 With William? Yeah, well but they don't have the U the V the X you know so they didn't do Ulysses. They could have I guess So only okay so 18 19 who's counting but you were right they are in alphabetical order yeah every year so sometime after Sandy uh i miss Tony Valerie and William I never heard of Tony Let me see Storm Tony

1:02:18 I mean Diane Sawyer is telling me so many the case you can't be lying to me. Yes images for Storm Tony Tropical storm, Tony now a post tropical cyclone in eastern Atlantic well there was no coverage Many finishes some some twister in the middle of the ocean and by the way East Coast crackpot pilots don't have to know storm names a hole Anyway, let's move on with the report because it's really exciting among the monsters like Isaac and the Gulf and Sandy in the east Tonight ABC's Dan Harris tells us what this means for the future You can see the control room going oh man she made it

1:03:06 A surge of storms pummeling the American coastline. Watch this year's busy hurricane season play out in just seven seconds, one storm piling on after the other leaving people whose lives were uprooted by Sandy. extremely frustrated. Now this is very, very well produced package because we're showing people who are angry sad frustrated and scared. This is what you need to understand coming to terms with a harsh new reality that may affect millions of Americans who live near the water and

1:03:58 People, open your eyes. Open your mind. Allow the information to flow that you are being mind controlled by this and it's very well done. And there's every reason to believe... And this is the woman from, uh, The Climate Project. Next year and the year after and a year after that could also be better I think that it's pretty safe to expect continued years of busy hurricane season. Science! Science is in! I think it's pretty reasonable to expect some woman from The Client- Climate Project please

1:04:41 Huh? So what's going on here, not only are we in a naturally occurring active period for hurricanes... H-hello?! Did I just hear an actual fact and let me just roll that back because you can't let that gloss over because they are news organization. He is actually saying something truthful here which is going to change Well, no busy hurricane season. So what's going on here? Not only are we in a naturally occurring active period for hurricanes But then there is also climate change the waters warmer which can make the storms stronger Do you hear this what you're seeing here on the screen? I'm waiting to listen to audio You're seeing the

1:05:21 Inconvenient truth polar bear and you're seeing the ice the iceberg collapse listen to the audio But then there's also climate change which makes the waters warmer, which can make the storms stronger And just this week a new here that they've sweetened it with like people Rollercoaster It's nuts makes the waters warmer Which can make the storms stronger? Hey man put some dying people under that and the sound engineer went crap now. I'll use this roller coaster. I don't have anything else Do you think that's one of the stock libraries roller

1:06:10 Let me see. I wonder if uh... Go type in roller coaster WAV Okay, well the reason why i'm asking is because a lot of these outfits they use the free um Yeah stuff you can get off the net Well no! The free sounds that come with the Apple programs Oh right apple yeah all the Final Cut Pro's got a bunch of sounds oh I think I have one here let's see Roller Coaster Roller Derby See it could be so let's just try this one for a second. I have those sounds in here, too No, that's not the one Oops say that and then marimba band broke out during the last storm now now those are just

CHAPTER 18 / 35 Discussion

Chasing Ice Documentary, Wild Foundation Funding

The new documentary "Chasing Ice" is identified as a key piece of climate change messaging. An investigation into the film's funding reveals that the Wild Foundation, a 501(c)(3) that traditionally focuses on African wilderness, provided nearly $300,000 to finance the project. The hosts suggest the film is being used as a "fairy tale" produced by Hollywood veterans to push political agendas.

chasing ice· jeff orlowski· glaciers· wild foundation· 501c3· documentary

1:06:56 I'll look for it. Anyway, let me just continue with this report. A new study saying climate change is also causing the polar ice sheets to melt three times faster than they were 20 years ago. Oh! Let's go over to...I think it is from ABC? We'll go to NBC. Speaking of climate we got surprising word today that polar ice is melting three times more rapidly now than it was in the 1990s That in a report in The Journal Science Not The Journal OF Science Just The Journal Science It's very tricky. It's just journal science... It's a journal, journal um... Science! Now back to ABC Look at this time-lapse footage from the new documentary Chasing Ice Oh we have a new documentary chasing ice As this ice melts it drives up water levels along the coast which makes hurricanes even worse And you're all going to die slaves now from the trailer of Chasing Ice

1:07:55 I'm on the phone with Jim, on one of our regular check-ins. Jim nothing's happening It's starting Adam, I think... Adam it's starting Look at that! Look at the whole thing! I DEMISE It all started in Iceland Think i'm so certain to get wet i'll take my boots off You're going to die You will die. I never imagined that you could see glaciers this big disappearing in such a short time. You will die! There's a powerful piece of history that is unfolding in these pictures and I have to go back. Scary, scary roller coaster! The initial goal was to put out 25 cameras

1:08:34 So chasing ice calm John check it out. Okay, what's interesting about chasing ice and if you look at You know the executive producers Yeah this is always kind of helps you out as to who these people are but what I found fascinating Is you can donate? And this of course is a Sundance winner, River Run Film Festival, Silver Docks South by Southwest Film Festival, Sundance London and Hot Docs Documentary Festival. It is beautifully made no doubt about it! It's absolutely spectacular now you can just see the cinematography is top-top notch really good what I find interesting as there's donate everywhere

1:09:25 You can donate and you click on the Donate button. The money goes to the Wild Foundation and the Wild Foundation is a 501 3c corporation, you can find it at wild.org This is what was kind of weird so I'll open up...I get the form 990, you know? I love looking at this. This is your thing! This is my thing. uh... what they have what they report so you know that there are any big dead and then network tv can do this to exclusive no agenda as i mentioned looks at the documents please positive about two one point nine million dollars and uh... they gave her two hundred eighty thousand to this movie sleep on finance that pretty much the whole thing but here is uh... what they do the wildness according to their iris talk tax documents

1:10:22 The Wild Foundation works internationally to protect and sustain wilderness and wildlife while integrating the needs of human communities, catalyze conservation leadership and build conservation capacity. And they all have their money is location specific projects in Africa that help protect and integrate wilderness and wildlife with human communities so for some reason this foundation which has only dealt with Africa their entire history as a non-profit decides to spend money in the polar opposite part of the world. So, this is a front obviously it's a front group to funnel money It was $294000 I think that was always exact amount they gave to this outfit so they financed most of it I'm just looking for the exact number down here scrolling through document

1:11:20 But if you look at this website, at chasingice.com You will see that this is very similar to the Escape Fire documentary This is a new way of doing it Al Gore started this tip You get a docu... and this is how you can make a documentary. And while you just put in some message, what it... because these guys they went to just their whole idea was To have 75 cameras and it was all cool linked up and they could watch Watch what's going on and watch polar bears floating by and stuff and now this has been hijacked and they got the got it made By accepting the money from the people who are going to politicize this Just look at the website about the film Get It To Where You Are The news releases

1:12:04 And this is all part of the programming. This movie comes out, which by the way the movie has been on ice literally for I think two years they just hold off and just wait and the reason i know that is the bios are outdated that they put on the site here. Hold on a second... You have anything to say while I uh Are you still there? Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm looking at the ICCF's website at the moment keep talking and i'll stumble onto something interesting okay You'll pop up in a second so let me um here's the team and uh Let's see where was she So we have Jeff Orlowski he's the director producer but Paula Dupree Pressman Would he have a name like that Paula Dupree Pressman That's a big red flag

1:12:54 Worked for more than 16 years as an associate producer of filmmaker Chris Columbus and 1492 Pictures. At the time she worked on Rent, Harry Potter, Prisoners of Azkaban, Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone This is why they brought her on we needed to make a fairy tale so let's bring in a fairy tale producer! And she must be doing one of the guys because she is very very cute So that how she probably got involved with the project Let's just boil it down to that. Come on, you know how this works and then there is David and Linda... Unfortunately yes! David and Linda Cornfield who are executive producers which means they put up the money that is how it works By the way you'd get fired for that too

1:13:38 David and Alina Kornfield are philanthropists and environmentalist who believe in the power of travel to learn about the world, and in the power of photography just spark curiosity and foster insights and understanding. Yeah! The power jet travel that's good for environment. And they look like jetsetters just look at them they've got identical little parkas on I know these people These are the people who give money at big gala events and then go on the expedition I know how this works. I know exactly how this works so watch this movie's gonna be touted everywhere as proof scientific fact that the study from the New England was it the the journal New England Journal not of whatever Science yeah science is proof scientific fact that That this is happening and it may be happening

CHAPTER 19 / 35 Discussion

Doha Climate Talks, Democracy Now! Cadence

The UN Climate Change Conference in Doha, Qatar, is discussed with a focus on the reporting style of Democracy Now!. The hosts mock Amy Goodman's "Walter Cronkite-esque" cadence while reporting on youth activists demanding drastic action to prevent poorer countries from suffering the effects of global warming.

doha· qatar· kyoto protocol· amy goodman· democracy now· youth activists

1:14:34 But my point is if we're not, you know your coastlines are going to be gone. You're screwed anyway it's not gonna help now live it up party spend your money on blow. Yeah that's too late now. Well just spend your money on hookers and blow well the climate uh meeting right now this is doha covered much by the mainstream but I did get this little tidbit which is part which I think is a Something they didn't run a I don't know why their state is sticking with the 3x or whatever that thing is but play the climate change meme at Doha clip from Democracy Now!

1:15:11 Climate delegates are wrapping up the first of two weeks of talks in Qatar's capital, Doha amidst mounting signs of global warming impact. The UN Meteorological Agency has unveiled a new report showing an area of the Arctic Sea ice larger than the United States melted this year over six-month period The agency said sea ice around the North Pole reached a record low because of climate change, while world leaders appear to have stalled over possible extension of the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gas emissions. Some of the toughest calls for change to emerge this week have been from the world's youth. Youth activists called Friday for leaders to take drastic action immediately to prevent poorer countries from suffering the brunt of climate change. My God!

1:15:56 She's reading it like Hitler now. Youth activists! Did you hear this cadence that she has got? That is her Walter Cronkite cadence, there is nothing new to that I hadn't heard it like this. She always talks like that. Whenever she really...Youth activist! This is new to me, let me listen again Leaders take drastic action immediately to prevent poorer countries from suffering the brunt of climate change That's Walter Cronkite? That is a bad Walter Cronkite. Well, it was more like Walter Winchell but anyway it's another story Michael Sandmel, a member of the International Youth Climate Movement spoke in Doha earlier this week We make up half the world population and frankly we're being screwed um...we're being denied future by lack of ambition, a lack of vision and governments that are far too beholden to the interests uh... big fossil fuel companies big coal companies, the banks that fund them

CHAPTER 20 / 35 Discussion

The Noodles Kid, Workplace Dictatorship Rant

A viral clip of a young man dubbed "The Noodles Kid" is analyzed. The individual complains about the "dictatorship" of his job at a Noodles restaurant, specifically objecting to being told what to cook and when to show up for work. He advocates for workers taking control of the business and forcing the owner to abdicate their position of authority.

noodles restaurant· unionization· capitalism· workplace democracy· viral video

1:16:49 It's the Noodle Kid! Where is the Noodle Kid? We want the Noodle Kid. Nah man, I can't play the Noodle Kid again but it does sound like the Noodle Kid doesn't it? Hey man, they keep bossing us around. They keep telling us what to do! That's not good we're getting screwed on this deal dude. We're getting screwed? How are you getting screwed? What specifically? Well like I described earlier there are two fundamental classes that aren't just a plain fact in society It's just, we're like not one of the top class man. You either work for someone else or you work for yourself and most people work for someone else in a way that they aren't free. Um...you don't really get to decide your work For example I work at Noodles, a restaurant And basically it's a dictatorship there. It's a DICTATORSHIP! Exactly what we're gonna cook

1:17:46 how we're gonna cook it, what time we're gonna get there and basically if they- Hey man I wanna show up when i feel like it! They don't like what they are doing. They try to tell us what to do If you don't listen they get rid of us and so... Wait a minute..If you don't listen to them they get rid of us those bastards Those capitalist pigs! We need to actually cooperate in the way that we make decisions together I tried to convince my fellow employees that we should have a union at Noodles So its a source of power to start with. And then I think in terms of the bigger picture, when you look at revolutions the way that you actually get rid of any sort of dictatorship is by having workers take control of the place where they work Would your plan...your vision for noodles? Sure

1:18:32 Would it include the owner? What capacity would he be granted? If the owner wanted to cooperate with us as an equal and provide his skills that we had, we would definitely cooperate with him. We'd have to abdicate his position of being an owner and controller of us And he would have to recognize that...We run this together Basically if he doesn't want to cooperate with us He's against us Message for the noodles kid message for the noodles kid you're an a-hole Unbelievable oh my goodness. Well, that's the classic Liz jump You don't get that very often then we play never get down on mainstream media No Especially not with a Morse code in it the Morse code do it again? We went more and more so all right I shall okay see if you should be able to recognize this John ready Let me get my key Do you recognize that

CHAPTER 21 / 35 Discussion

South Florida Terror Arrests, FBI Sting Monitoring

Two brothers in Fort Lauderdale, Raees and Shaheer Quazi, were arrested for allegedly plotting a bomb attack in the US. Unlike previous cases, the FBI claims this was not a sting operation because the suspects were actively "monitoring" previous FBI sting cases online to avoid infiltration. The hosts find it suspicious that the FBI considers researching public news stories about stings to be evidence of a conspiracy.

fbi· terror plot· fort lauderdale· raees quazi· ham radio· homegrown terror

1:19:35 Uh, no. No that's your call letters Oh! That's KJ6 Kevin Johnson 6 Liquid Natural Gas Yeah do you want to hear it again so you can recognize it? Yeah There ya go Okay And how about this one This is an easy one Come on I don't know Moore's Code It's diddy da dat da ITM Dat dadadat dat pom pom That's a haircut It's ITM 2 bits ITM oh okay ITM Anyway Who else does this sort of thing? Hey, I had a PSK-31 digital connection with Cuba. God... Yeah. Were you using the dipole?! The NFED ZEP wire antennae. I'm gonna get in trouble and here's proof! Good evening on this Friday night we have breaking news. Breaking news. Tonight two men under arrest in a terror plot.

1:20:37 They are naturalized citizens of Pakistani descent living in South Florida and ABC senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas joins us now with all the breaking details. Diane, tonight the FBI believe it has stopped a plot of homegrown terror. Now I was very excited about this because this is ahead of schedule The schedule is meant to be every six weeks when the FBI comes out with something one of these plots One of these stings, one of these patsy things So the timing's supposed to be right around Christmas so we can have another scare an airline disaster scare around Christmas like the underpants dude

1:21:19 So this is unscheduled, and I think this might be the real deal. But listen to what the real deal is... Oh they're just going to screw up their timing because they can't do another one just before Christmas like they want too? Well the guys actually did nothing! What they did has me worried because I have done this. While in its early stages could have been deadly Tonight two Fort Lauderdale men are in custody accused of plotting to detonate a bomb in the US homeland. I love the little motor drive sound which yeah, I heard that is yeah right who uses motor drives in 2012 it's like a black and white security cam picture

1:22:00 Please CSI ABC custody accused of plotting to detonate a bomb in the US homeland. The two men in the homeland brothers in the USA homeland yeah as opposed to someone else's homeland so they're flashing images and then they have that sound is the sound effect? Yeah totally CIA, CSI It's a CSI piece. In Fort Lauderdale, men are in custody accused of plotting to detonate a bomb in the US homeland The two men brothers Raees and Shaheer Arqazi are identified as naturalized citizens from Pakistan Sources tell ABC News this was not a sting sources sources is real news reports sources say it was not a sting This is not our

1:22:44 regular scheduled program. Stop! This is funny we will be back in December please and everything else is a sting but they're trying to get the point across that this wasn't, this was not our regularly scheduled program. This was a stunner for us there was no stinging involved We weren't expecting this And that the younger brother had been in contact with overseas radicals possibly connected to Al Qaeda so he talked to someone who possibly may have been connected to al-qaeda but wait The indictment accuses the men of attempting to provide lodging, communications equipment and transportation in a conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction. So they had a couple emails I'll get you the ham radio yeah i got a truck all right we can get something really

1:23:27 explosive that goes boom. And sources say the FBI found evidence the younger brother had been monitoring recent FBI sting cases so authorities say infiltrating the alleged conspiracy was a non-starter So he was monitoring, which means googling recent FBI sting cases? This is what I do it's called research He was monitoring. I'll testify on your behalf. Yeah, to get me incarcerated. Here's it he had a Pakistani Indian sounding name his name was Curry he was monitoring FBI sting cases he had ham radio equipment with very powerful transmitters! He was named after famous food dish in Pakistan curry

1:24:14 And Pierre, I know this is still a developing story but any indication how many others might be involved? Diane this case is active and ongoing. They're looking at potential suspects overseas This is CSI talk! It's Diane, Diane it's active and ongoing there are potential things overseas What the hell was that? See they're already onto me this is stinging- in progress This is nuts There's an ant on the microphone Hold up hold up sir Be very quiet Did I get him Alright. Did I get him? No, you didn't get him he's roaming around now He's on the... He disappeared maybe we did get him let's take a little break here So uh We have a few donors only only a few right

CHAPTER 22 / 35 Discussion

Winter Solstice Donations, Whiskey Recommendations

A donation segment includes a request for American-made whiskey recommendations for a connoisseur. Suggestions include Maker's Mark, Pappy Van Winkle, and the novelty of a Jack Daniels magnum. The segment also features a plug for the band Krushor, featuring listener Sir Kelly Spongberg on bass.

winter solstice· jack daniels· makers mark· van winkle· krushor· donations

1:25:18 But we have to thank them and Sir Howard Gutknecht in Seattle who I met with. $122.10. Oh that's nice! He is, he says sir how are you? For the Druids it's a winter solstice donation 1221 is the one hundred twenty two dollars and ten cents whatever twelve twenty one That's the solstice. Okay, oh I see what it is... this is 1221 So 1221 may not be a bad donation to celebrate 1221. I like that alot! Anyway, one two two dot one very nice I like it He says the Thursday show was the best ever This past Thursday? I guess what he says And that's where we got the least donations ever Is that how that works? I just want to understand Telling more of these Little Richard anecdotes and uh... We'll get more money

1:26:19 But and less research from curry kid I saw Led Zeppelin and somebody screamed in the audience You know was suspicious. I mean you would be so great if you ever got your act together and got on ham radio I mean, you're made for this you're made for this you are so made for it really it perfect Anyway, he wants me to recount my mortgage. But the mortgage foreclosure story about the fake thing that they were trying to do in Washington state where we're going to Attorney General right? Right It's kind of just it kinda just died on divine that they just stopped calling you but hold on a second You need to go get these bastards these eight holes. Well, I got a girl general knows did the government is onto them Yeah Oh yeah The government said I know either going after the banks any day now sure any day now

1:27:14 Anyway, so he says happy winter solstice coming up. Thank you sir good connect He also has some marketing tips for us that we will put into Into action nice okay Richard Razza Harris Razzanac president razzanac her a razzanac. Yeah, razzanac Eastern Eastern Pennsylvania $100 and 33 cents we had our suspicious gas blast in Allentown in 2011 my crackpot theories are either that big oil is going against big natural gas or the China's ruski sending a message

1:27:51 Anyway, I was wondering if you could recommend this former Illuminati slave an American-made whiskey or bourbon to give as a gift to someone who considers themselves a connoisseur in that area. An American man? I would just go plain old Jack! No, no. That's not interesting. One of those big bottles is the really big ones? Oh! The Big Giant Magnum I love the magnum of Jack that looks so cool and it's not as compared to me speaking Are you okay man this cough has a little worried. I have a cold Okay... The uh..no i think a magnum of Makers Mark is more interesting Makers Mark okay I think makers mark is a as a bourbon you can find everywhere yeah I think is a really good product

1:28:34 There's a bunch of these if you can get okay. Here's the one if you can get a van Winkle anything You're because it's for some connoisseur wasn't so the kind of sewers love Van we weren't the van Winkles the guys who? Originally paid Zuckerberg for Facebook, so look for a van Winkle of any sort there's a bunch of there's kind different couple labels that are out involved to find a Specialty store and I see if there's any van Winkles they'd recommend how about some Johnny Walker blue oh Now he wants American-made whiskey or bourbon. It's very clear in here. You take the Johnny Walker Blue and you put it in Jack Daniels' bottle, and you say trust me? You've never tasted the Magnum. Yeah this is this kind of recommendations you get from Adam Curry I think we should do a taste test. Sarah Zaffer in Essex Junction Vermont A new donor

1:29:31 A new donor, $100 with no comment that I could see. Um, I think Sarah sent a picture... Did she send us a note? I think she might have sent me a naked picture actually. Well that would be... I gotta look. How come you're getting all in there-I don't get anything like this is ridiculous. Oh because you're not on ham radio! 10-4 good buddy. What do you used to say to me You say to me when I got my license. 10-4, good buddy! By the way this is... 73 CQCQCQCQ This is exactly when people hear you have your ham license they all go hey good buddy what's your handle? And you just and and the worst thing is you get offended because you're like hey man actually I studied for a test like a real test that you couldn't pass A-hole and I know how to measure an open ended dipole okay

1:30:21 I have an oscilloscope. Would you like to see it in action? Sir Kelly Spongberg who we haven't heard from for a while in Alberta even closed the copy of crushers album He's it's a band. He plays bass guitar for him It's not Green Day, but it's not Aerosmith either So he think you'll be like if Adam wants to copy email me a mailing address and send him one too I got it. I forgot them there. Oh, yeah, dude lipid and then sent it to you know many idiot I'd love to have that again was busy sir kelly plays bass Yeah. Slappin' the bass? Is he slapping slappin' the bass? He wants a plug for the album, Crush Nor's uh... I thought we had a website that was on here. Well hold on there. This came in a letter and so JC just writes part of it down and that's the end of it. That can't be too hard to find. K-R-U-S-H O-R You can find it somewhere. What?! K-R-U-S-H O-R

1:31:26 Crushor. Oh, Crusher! CRUSHOR! KRUSHOR! K-R-U-S-H-O-R Well how about crusher dot com? I mean it was really that hard? Let's see do they have music members CD Baby They should have at least a... Wow they look hardcore man Have you ever seen these dudes?! I've seen Kelly! That did look pretty cool Okay crushor. Crushor Overlord from Crushor everybody Some DX7 sounds there Let's get to the hardcore part. I could be a guest vocalist in this band. I think you could be, yeah-I think you should be! Make more money! Gregory Davies and Lawton Oklahoma ssss-uh oh! Oh ffff-oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh 69! 69 dudes! Woohoo!

CHAPTER 23 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Institute, 69.69 Donations

A listener suggests an "Ask Me Anything" (AMA) show format, which the hosts dismiss based on past experience. However, they discuss a proposal from an ex-Disney developer to create the "No Agenda Institute for Internet Broadcasting" (NAIIB), an online courseware system designed to teach professional podcasting.

naaiib· podcasting school· disney developer· donations· ama show

1:32:33 Alright, we got a 6969 donation. Hey guys the Aussie lost in Oklahoma here your first off Could you please give PayPal a huge douche bag for locking me out of my account for no reason? Got it fixed, but was a pain in the ass. Again thanks for all you do I know there's some talk about what you gonna do about show on Christmas Day and have a suggestion no agenda AMA show ask me anything get to producers and listeners submit questions about anything we tried doing that once We did? And it didn't work out There is nobody who has got any questions for us The best ones gets chosen You can get the idea of the show Not sure if you can use the idea or not hope you can blah blah

1:33:13 Yeah, you'll take a hey shit us in karma for revised and updated new podcast. I'm launching in 2013 ooh Well we need to talk about this first let me give you your You've got karma one of our producers Matt is He's he's an ex-Disney web developer And he has actually created an online courseware system that He would like to set up the and by the way, it's the no agenda Institute for internet broadcasting which is the NA double IB Which has a nice ring to it na double I be then no agenda Institute for internet broadcasting and he thinks there's a real business in it But he says we will have to dedicate at least a day a week to it And I'm thinking that could be Thursday show

1:34:08 You know, instead of the Thursday show we'll just do our podcast academy. No no the Thursday show brings in money! The Sunday shows the dog! Okay then then cut the Sunday Show. Well one of the two... okay hopefully we can just spend another day and if that would count for the third episode we've always wanted to do if it brings in money I'll float out still do two shows Okay, Heather Aronson good old Heather from San Francisco 6969. Hey I want Adam to talk to my pussy too. Hey Except I don't have a cat Just kidding actually do have a cat what happened? What happened what happened or what well it was weird like oh It's like this huge like interference sound or something that's probably the CIA Yeah, they're probably the transmitting outside okay sorry we got back to the pussy yes

CHAPTER 24 / 35 Discussion

Studio Interference, Spanish Mortgage Crisis

The broadcast is interrupted by mysterious radio interference, which the hosts jokingly attribute to a drone overhead. Amidst the technical issues, they read a letter from a listener in Barcelona describing the "surrealistic" conditions of the Spanish banking crisis, where citizens remain liable for mortgage debt even after losing their homes to the bank.

radio interference· drones· spain· banco popular· mortgage debt· paypal

1:35:03 She has a cat. She actually has a cat, she says and that's what she is talking about Alright So don't be...don't have a dirty mind Sorry What did you guys decide to replace the...what did you decide to replace We're gonna have little pins like they have in Canada when your the knight of Canada I think it's called...I thought we were going to have dog tags Canada is knighthood Are we gonna have dog tags? Dog tags are no good Belt buckle I like a belt buckle How about a Bolo tie Yeah there it is again Where is this coming from Is this you John No I'm hearing it though Wow There is someone... Sounds like a drone overhead. Someone is transmitting nearby, if all of the sudden you don't hear me anymore they've got me that's very strange because that is someone with a walkie-talkie or something. They're outside your house. Should I go look?

1:35:52 I'll continue reading. Thomas Badrick in Nutley, New Jersey. I don't have a note from him 6969 Gordon Walton or Sir Gordon Walton to you who's in Austin and maybe the guy outside the door which would be funny 6969 starting on a knighthood for my son John and he asked us to keep up with good work and that ends our 6969 segment which I'll ring a bell for Adam's house apparently has a lot of square footage, takes him forever to get to the door. Well maybe he won't come back Hey Adam! Adam! Lawrence McBride Sir Lawrence McBride Morton Merseyside We're still safe You're still safe? Good Close out the 69-69 segment 69! 69 DUDES! Sir Lawrence McBride needs job karma for an interview on Monday and it is his birthday 2 12 12 And we have you on the list sir Lawrence

1:36:56 You've got karma. Doug Dodge in Camarillo, Brillo California 5555 no comment Adam Mikulajcic I would say Mikulajcic yeah i think it's Mikulajcic in Ithaca New York 3535 it was a great pleasure discovered my mothership boarding pass subscription he has gotten appreciably close to his knighthood with great pride adding this 5350 and then he's going to be a knight. Okay, we'll have you on the list keep up with always intriguing analysis serving up with pleasing dose of entertainment and levity for my recent engagement to it... You know by the way people who used to listen to our show and then they stopped listening? They're all depressives! Otherwise you have no outlet for the depression

1:37:48 Yeah, because most people yeah you can know that this took place at that time or there's a lot of corruption but you don't and she shouldn't be letting it eat at you. You should have a good guess funny That's exactly the only way to survive. Excuse me? The only way to survive demise is with humor And this is what we do. We give you a way to release and to relax and to laugh by calling people weird names, and douchebags, and having the type of conversation that you really wish you could just have with a buddy. Or you wish that the mainstream media would have this conversation? Oh please! You know, have you noticed... That's funny Have you noticed that Don Lemon

1:38:35 Now has a Saturday night show on CNN, but he's it's like a personality show Everybody wants to be joy Behar and he has it and he has his shirt unbuttoned for the show Yeah, like you know tube two buttons so this collar is open. It was like and it's the Don Lemon Show You know I'll play something from it later. I got it. I got a real news clip from it okay anyway Adam also once say uh... he just recently got engaged to a smoking hot milf in training, humbly request a dose of chemtrail you will obey karma for impending noopsuals as we set out to build our geodesic dome mountain home in the hills of central pennsylvania. Let's see if we can do this. That was close but is this close? You will obey!

1:39:31 You've got karma. Forgot I had that one! I didn't know you had it at all That's a good one, isn't it? Isn't- I think It's not bad I think is actually one of the better ones Hold on just playing You will obey That's gonna be a big request this one does not get played for less than $70 Sorry, I'm gonna put price tags on these things. Yeah We got to do it somehow Kevin Payne $50 and 1 cent no comment Greg sir Greg Brunsell in Kenosha Wisconsin No comment At least none that I can see

1:40:12 and Mestanza Alexandra in Barcelona. Hello from Barcelona! Hola, hola Spain thanks guys for the many hours of entertainment and for the weekly brain rewash or is it unwash you erase the previous brainwash inflicted by schools and mass media over here in Gitmo nation unemployment Thanks to you I'm even more cynical. Thank you very much and while most of the news you deconstruct doesn't relate directly to me it does provide a reality check and helps me deconstruct our own news, i've been on the crappy five dollar a month donation for awhile now and I do keep an eye on my email ensure it happens monthly. There is again by the way we got a note oh there it is agai- It's just coming out of nowhere John

1:40:55 It's not on my side, I don't even hear it. No no, but this has never happened before... This is very... It sounds like a hand... Someone's keying the mic! Yeah, that's exactly what it sounds like. Yeah locally in some hand with too many watts and no filters. I guarantee you it's a drone overhead There's nothing outside so must be overhead. It could be they're lining you up Yep. It's the radar Don't say the wrong thing on today show Okay Anyway, he goes on. He says... I was gonna say somebody did send a note saying that PayPal told them that we discontinued and it's bullcrap! We don't do that! No, that's what PayPal does when something goes wrong they say no agenda cancelled your subscription now how dumb would that be if we really did that? And why would we do it?!

1:41:46 Now I have to find a mortgage in another bank. Oh, anyway... oh let me go back uh i seriously need some house karma as it decided to buy an apartment but my bank who offers the best mortgage in Spain screwed me! So now I have to find a mortgage at another bank and every offer I get is more surrealistic than the previous you should try crazy conditions crazy interest crazy charges anything you can think of And some no one would dream of except these banks You should drive Monco-Popular Obviously not matter what Europe says What? To try Banco Popular. It's probably where he started. Obviously, no matter what Europe says our banks still want to collect flats at 60% value plus keep the citizen paying the debt for the rest of his life 25 percent extra interest for paying late To top it off if I don't buy and I'll lose the money already paid as reservation Oh you had a down payment? I hear that yeah, it's happening again And this I've never heard this before sounds like a drone Yeah

1:42:46 But don't bet that the noise comes when it circles around and when it gets close again, it'll do it They can't stay in one place they got a circle anyway, he needs some much he needs to douche Jordi Oh Who hit him in the mouth repeatedly and now you can't even tell if he's ever donated which means he didn't donate enough or He would remember keep up the good work loves Alex. I Alright, and that concludes our donations. Look people! Oh this is... Alex's name is Alexandra Mistanza Not Mistanza, this is PayPal thanks for nothing Nobody has a first name Mistanza Except for George Costanza That's all we got so I mean I could stall more No don't I have more anecdotes This is unacceptable that's all It's unacceptable We need more support We have Christmas too

CHAPTER 25 / 35 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Thomas and Sir Adam

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Thomas Fields and Adam Michalajczyk, who have reached the required donation threshold. The ceremony includes the traditional "hookers and blow" litany, officially inducting them as Knights of the No Agenda Round Table.

knighting· sir thomas· sir adam· roundtable· donations

1:43:49 Yeah, you know socks are expensive and old spice an old spice. All right, please Please I mean we've we've been through what? We've explained to the pot the Palestinian upgrade that we have which is all apart with actually looked at The thing that no one talks about is how condolence arise has six hundred thousand dollars in the first place We've chosen Yeah, Susan E. Sorry for Condoleezza. What difference does it make? We have protected you! I've given you a wall of protection against the indoctrination whether... You can believe in climate change

1:44:30 man-made or otherwise, but at least you should know when you're being mind controlled with a documentary and a survey and they're all cross referencing. And it's all pushing at the same time with the 23 tons per metric $23 per metric ton of carbon tax waiting in the wings with the president who has no more election to win or lose by implementing that just so you know what's coming we've given you all these protections We've given you something to laugh about where it's just crazy. I mean we've given you the noodles kid now You have to get a noodle is worth at all subscriptions and hey, I totally agree By the way, no by the way Don't you think if a pile of ice the size of the entire United States had melted that I'd be on waterfront property? No, I'm waiting. I want to heal

1:45:26 Which is, I've got that location for the dock where i can put it out and have a boat. You are in a great spot actually and you can use that railroad that runs in front to dry dock your ship Yeah, no I got the whole thing figured out. No, I'm in the right spot. I've got nothing there's nothing There's no movement. I don't see it as lifting I don't see the water wafting on but the bottom of the hill or anything and by the way It's a rock kill so it's not gonna get eroded its Texas is the place to be and I will have beachfront property That's why I'm here. I'm ready for it I am a little dismayed though by our results for today. I was watching at three hour

1:46:30 session Senate session which I was planning on pulling some clips for Thursday show not that motivated right now about autism really some amazingly hysterical stuff in like what just you know there it is again yeah there it is but where's it coming from Sounds like a giant bug. Well, the only thing that's new is I have the new tube amp So that to bow you know that could be sounds like it too yet a bad tube. No, it's brand-new I think them so it's taking it is receiving something but to all right Right, right, right? That's what its doing But it's receiving some app is receiving something but it would but it's it's something that sporadic and this happening in the neighborhood

1:47:20 And it's not me. Could be a leaf blower It's a drone, trust me Alright I have- I think he's gonna have to go I have mine do you have yours? Yeah Here it is Very good The big one! Alright Thomas Fields who reached his knighthood entirely on $30 donations step forward along with Adam Michalajczyk. Gentlemen, congratulations both of you have reached the level of Knight of the Norwich in a round table very very proud to pronounce thee Sir Thomas and Sir Adam Knight of

1:47:56 Roundtable gentlemen for you over here hookers and blow red boys in Chardonnay hot pants and booze wenches and beer Ruben s woman and rosé guys She's in sake vodka vanilla gerbils and ginger ale and mutton and mead But nan made I think it'd be pretty good on that or even well Did you did you read that one or he was out of top? Yeah, that's all off the top of my head. I Can I can do that from memory in the middle of the night if you wish what a pro yeah Yeah And then that in 50 cents So it looks like we finally got a deal and I do have a question for you on this John. Do you still do that show with Horowitz? I haven't seen that one show up recently We've been off a couple of weeks, okay see I'm a fan I listen so the deal was finally struck in a video there was a big argument between The IMF and the European Central Bank about how to pay out basically come up with the cash for the last tranche the most recent tranche

CHAPTER 26 / 35 Discussion

Greek Debt Bailout, Bloomberg vs. ECB Lawsuit

The European Central Bank (ECB) won a legal battle against Bloomberg to keep secret documents regarding how Greece used derivatives to hide its national debt. The court ruled that disclosing the role of bankers like Goldman Sachs in the scheme would undermine the public interest. The hosts explain that the latest "tranche" of bailout money effectively goes to the banks while the cost is borne by European taxpayers.

greece· european central bank· bloomberg· goldman sachs· derivatives· debt crisis

1:48:59 Tronch is what it's not as a tranche. That's just you can't just say payment now tranche It's a great word tranche. Yeah, they got to make it sound trance. Yeah important that it is important tranche about 40 billion euros, which of course goes directly to banks. Now two things have taken place One is a real whopper but first I want to understand a little better how this works because from what I understand... well first i'll play this little clip BBC and I'll give you what i think is going on and then I'd love to hear from you. And then I've got the Whopper. Jamie joins me with two big business breaking stories, one kind of feeding into the other one. The lower house in the German parliament saying yes okay we will go with this bailout to Greece. Yes it's pretty much expected this was gonna happen that and it was what Germany had been pushing for particularly getting

1:49:54 Greece to buy back the bonds, some of its debt. So which would effectively reduce its debt down from 190% it's expected to reach late next year possibly down well target is about 144 percent by 2020 this should be quite important because they'd be buying the debts back which is held at the moment by private creditors and they would buy it back at 30 cents, possibly 35 cents in the dollar. So if an owner of one of these Greek bonds is sitting on one of these Greek bonds that's all their ever going to get out of it some people would say actually we're lucky to get that But this has always been an accounting sleight of hand, buying bonds. Because we had that debate here in the UK, the Chancellor of the Exchequer saying no it's good business sense and then the Bank of England saying well actually no it is not because you are offsetting gains against pluses that haven't happened yet? Yes I know there is a slight of hand going on here but on the other hand the important thing is Greece is saying they're not going to be able

1:50:52 produce any kind of growth in the economy because the austerity cuts becoming so drastic. You wonder why the regular citizens of the world, why their eyes just glaze over and aren't able to understand? I mean this is how it can be. So what i understand here is um... that the tranche is coming, of course coming from the other European countries and because of the way it's...and this money is going to the bondholders but also to banks who have got a bond holder. Banks are bond holders essentially if this money is coming from the citizens of the other countries who actually have to borrow this money at a higher cost than the yield of what they're lending the money into Greece for

1:51:39 So it's another way, instead of the... this is why I think they make it confusing and I'm asking you obviously to see if we understand properly. Instead of telling the citizens of Britain and the Netherlands and Germany, saying hey we're going to take your money and give it to these banks over here who screwed over these citizens down south. They are saying oh no were just lending money but you're actually borrowing the money at a higher cost so you getting screwed, you getting doubly screwed except they don't tell you about it or package in this really complicated language

1:52:16 Am I anywhere close to reality, John? It sounds reasonable. Here's the thing that was crazy... It's like a shell game. A shell game. Ponzi scheme. Shell game. Well it's not a ponzi scheme specific. So- Shell games are trying to hide the nut. Here is news that was only on Bloomberg and i'm sure this will not be reported widely. Excuse me now. I have a frog in my throat. You've got it! Bloomberg, the financial information company sued the European Central Bank for information about... well actually I'll just read the report because i was blown away by this. There was a lawsuit over this and the European Central Bank won they will be allowed to keep private files showing how Greece used derivatives to hide its debt after defeating the first court challenge using the bloc's freedom of information rules

1:53:11 Disclosure of those documents, okay. I'll read that in a second so Bloomberg wanted to understand how Goldman Sachs amongst other bankers How they had used the derivative scheme to make it look like Greece had a lot more money than they did And we're doing much better than they were when they entered the European Union got all that European Union cash which essentially Bankers like Goldman Sachs stole into rivets trading would you agree John does that sound feasible? Well, I don't know that they stole anything. Come on derivative if someone loses someone else wins Yeah, but that's not the same as stealing they trick people out of okay? Well okay? I'm sorry I stand correct They tricked an entire country out of their money and of course we have Lagarde's list There's a whole bunch of people who got payoffs for that But that's another story

1:54:02 So now, it would be very good I think to know how this trick was done so we could avoid the trick in the future. As Bloomberg says, disclosure of those documents would have undermined the protection of public interest so far as concerns the economic policy of European Union and Greece This is what the court said. In other words, you shouldn't know citizens because it would undermine the... I'm electrocuted! Aaaaaah! Aaaaah!

1:54:42 We don't want anyone to know how the trick works because we probably played it in a couple other places and we might do it again in the f- AAAAAAAAHHHHH! And we might do it again in the future. Maybe there's some critic out there saying, I dunno this is getting boring let me just give another jolt What do you mean boring? I think its fascinating It's fascinating Yeah that's boring I think you're dead right. Your analysis is absolutely correct but it's boring and dull, that why it won't get outside of Bloomberg. You could make it really exciting! I don't know if we can make that story even remotely interesting. Scammer scam! Okay let's play a little bit from the Don Lemon show

CHAPTER 27 / 35 Discussion

Pat Boone on CNN, Islam Controversy

Singer Pat Boone appeared on Don Lemon's CNN show and made the false claim that the artist behind the Scandinavian Mohammed cartoons was killed. The hosts highlight the lack of correction from the news anchor and use the clip to illustrate the decline of factual accuracy in cable news variety shows.

pat boone· don lemon· cnn· islam· mohammed cartoons· scandinavia

1:55:23 Who has a Saturday night show ladies and gentlemen Don Lemon has an a variety show he does Showbiz news And he had Pat Boone on. Pat Boone, they talk serious about religion with Pat Boone and then Pat Boone Man He just laid it off. I said the difference might be that if you criticize right now It's very sensitive criticizing Islam and uh... and if you do it is possible that you could uh... you know you could be threatened with harm in some way and i am and actually i'm not defending criticizing anybody religion because i think that's wrong and we the whole idea of the constitution is to let everybody have a free say about what they believe and and we should

1:56:06 if whether we agree or not at least respect their opinion and their desire to serve God as they see him, or in some cases her. And have the freedom to do that without being ridiculed. You're not saying the whole of Islam is a threatening religion are you? No I said some if you go back and see there might be some elements There are terrorists, we know there's terrorists. We know there are others who if you criticize Mohammed in a cartoon as they did in Scandinavia The guy was killed! The guy was killed!! No he wasn't! The guy wasn't killed

1:56:46 I like it though. He's just making it up! And Don Lemon, does he correct him? Okay no and you shouldn't have done it to begin with We've got a run only for time purposes so I appreciate you coming on Of course there are terrorists in every single religion Because your an idiot Pat Boone Yeah and in Christian they're Christian terrorists There is Christian terrorist let's just wrap it up Wrap it up wrap it up wrap it up Get them off the air That guy got killed! No we didn't CNN for you, ladies and gentlemen. All news all the time! That's right! Well talking about that I'm watching... All news all the time! John C. Duvorak What channel is this? This is maybe Fox Business or Bloomberg. It's one of them but they're talking about the big controversy over E15. Oh E15 hold on a second Joe C. Duvorak now with an E15 report what does he mean 15 is the is that a ingredient

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

E15 Ethanol Debate, AAA Warnings

A controversy over E15 gasoline (15% ethanol) is discussed following warnings from AAA that the fuel could ruin car engines. The hosts debate the energy density of ethanol versus pure gasoline, with John C. Dvorak arguing that the claims of a "one-third" reduction in energy are exaggerated and that most modern engines can handle higher alcohol content without issue.

e15· ethanol· aaa· epa· gasoline· engine damage

1:57:39 E15 is gasoline with 15% alcohol in it. And a lot of gasoline has 10% alcohol in it now just for pollution reasons in California and E15, it turns out that Minnesota wants to move everything to E25. This is all the benefit the corn guys and so they're oil people have put a bunch of shills out there saying screw that this is bull crap we can make gasoline you know its not a bad product I mean its not going to be any better with a bunch alcohol in it and they want to push the E25 So the meme has come out that E15 apparently AAA or somebody who doesn't know anything

1:58:21 Came out with his, oh it's gonna ruin your car! People who hate the environment. I mean this is AAA out there issuing this warning? You can't say that this is a conspiracy of some type against farmers, against the fuel industry whatever it is. It's AAA has come out now what is the EPA response to all this at this time Well the EPA claims that they've done all this testing and it's impossible to do years of testing in months. They said they've done all this testing and they claim there is no difference, well here is where the other difference can affect your pocketbook because the truth is AAA is trying to help people. And I don't work for AAA actually I work for AOL Auto so we are totally opposing each other but

1:59:01 The fact is, when you're looking at the cost of what it costs you there's less than one third energy per gallon of gasoline that has ethanol in it then regular gasoline that didn't have ethanol in it. So what does that mean to you? You're filling up with a pump more often and its costing the same amount of money and you get to pay damages that happen to your engine. You got the bullshit guy clip? You can play the bullshit clip? Bullshit! That one Yeah, that one. All right let's go over this so the public actually can get a clue because of these talk shows they don't want to represent anyway. Hold on a second. May I just interrupt? You are about to get some very valuable information about what is and is not true consider this next time you're giving money to a bum on the street consider giving that money not to the bum but to The No Agenda Show

1:59:54 Well, I would point at the United Way and other anyway so we're buying products United way what? So anyway no give don't give money to United Way. No Give it to the NOA agenda show okay E15 is a 50% alcohol now This is just as complete out-and-out lie that gasoline that's got some alcohol in it gives you gives out one third less energy a complete tank of pure alcohol Pure alcohol does produce about a third less energy, but 15% alcohol doesn't produce a third less energy in a gallon of gasoline. Like she said, she says gasoline with some... With alcohol in it produces one-third... Okay I'm gonna almost finish the bus guy's back button to show. I don't understand where he is coming from. It's boring! He's outside. Oh alcohol and your gas. Hit the button

2:00:51 uh... you could take a if u uh... can do the calculation of the cost alcohol in the rest of it d money energy losses negligible need fifteen is very little and you make the calculation yourself but but the other thing is that he fifty will not hurt to hurt in any engines that i know of that were made after their advent of uh... unleaded fuel i've got on c what i mean gachi alcohol or alcohol in your gasoline quite good for it because it sucks, if there's any water. You know water accumulates in gas tanks, it always does yeah and sits at the bottom sometimes you know starts rusting out the tank has got a lot of problems with water your tank you put alcohol which is extremely hygroscopic sucks it up and blows through the engine you're getting good shape I don't know...I'll look into the assertions but I think you can go 25 easy without hurting an engine I dont know its bull crap

2:01:45 It's just it's just it's just bull. It's just burning like gasoline is only this you know not quite Here's the here's the only time would hurt your engine? Here's what I would say Would it dissolve something in the car, I don't think so there's no better Can I get all of us and I can I'm gasoline can I give you a reason A lot of most cars today have Have an injection system And in fact The way it works Is that they tend to lean off peak When things aren't running right, they start to lean the mixture. And I believe that unless you reprogram the chips that probably it won't understand how to

2:02:29 Correct the mixture in the right way and you could lean so much with the alcohol that you actually could damage The engine does that make any sense? That's possible. I don't think it takes place at those levels I think you have to be about 50% alcohol before you have a problem. I mean, there's cars out there There are e85 or whatever it is almost all alcohol Yeah And those engines are specially set up for that I agree but 15 It's not even, I'd like to see some documentation for the AAA assertion. I think this is a setup that is bull crap and then they throw in this nonsense about 10% less energy or whatever it was... A third less energy! That's bull crap. That's total bull crap. Anyway, just floating around. You're right that was totally boring

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

Autonomous Drone Policy, Human Rights Watch

The Pentagon issued a new directive regarding autonomous weapon systems. While news reports claimed the policy "forbids" lethal robots without human control, the hosts analyze the document to show it actually provides a framework for developing such systems. They highlight the deceptive reporting that made Human Rights Watch appear to "applaud" a policy they actually want to see banned.

pentagon· autonomous drones· department of defense· human rights watch· skynet· lethal force

2:03:13 You're right. All right, we got some... the guy didn't buzz! We were on time, we were on time. Definitely some amazing drone news that has come out as the Pentagon and the Department of Defense came out with their policy for autonomous drones and this is even earlier than I expected it. I think it was how many months ago? Three months ago I did a big spiel on top of the snow. Yeah, it was a long time ago not six not six It was a long time ago Not sick along with six. I would I would did an entire thing on autonomous drones

2:03:57 Why they're so desirable? We should find the episode then that actually that is something we should replay on one of these shows With what is not my okay. I six months ago you were talking about the automatic passenger planes Right now now we're talking about autonomous drones So the drone can be programmed to go kill somebody and then you don't have to do anything it just goes off in its mission and It goes and kills somebody And after I interviewed Daniel Suarez, whose book Kill Decision came out a couple months ago. Actually is before that even after after I interviewed him. I was and I knew I was right But before I interviewed him we went through this whole idea of exactly why autonomous drones are very very dangerous And the big thing in warfare is if you can remove the person from the equation Then you win, you just completely win and by the way It's not just countries drones are cheap enough companies can have drones there's one flying around right now it's probably Alex Jones he's ready to drone me so

2:05:00 At the same time, again here's how the propaganda works and this is a beautiful piece and then I'm going to read you couple of highlights from the actual policy document which will get nowhere else. Not even Danger Room when all these people like autonomous drones they give me that the messaging that the Pentagon wants you hear but they don't actually show you the documentation or quote anything real from it So here's a little clip where they've totally skewed the message about autonomous drones and actually made Human Rights Watch, who were completely against autonomous drones sound like they're okay with it. It's great piece of television news reporting. The machines are starting to take over! It conjures up images of The Terminator Mr Chairman I need make myself very clear if we uplink now Skynet will be in control your military But you'll be in control of Skynet

2:05:55 The Pentagon just issued its first directive on autonomous weapons, effectively forbidding the development of lethal weapons with no human control. Now just notice what is being said! Effectively forbidding this... effectively! To minimize failures that could lead to unintended engagements Minimize failures That's a sterile term for mean This is the Pentagon spokeshole Meaning harming innocents Killing the wrong target really the Pentagon's Dave Archman it gets these weapons are still 20 30 years away Oh, really we have self-driving Google cars that are already legal in California But we it'll take thirty years before a drone can autonomously go and shoot a hellfire in your ass Lying sack of whooey that technology doesn't exist yet. What do you mean? Google's car

2:06:47 Cars are driving on the streets with other traffic, not even like being in the sky. So why now? The thought was technology is dynamic and we'd like to get out ahead of it. In other words we would like to get rule making down so that we can go ahead and do whatever the frick we want which I'll prove you in a document Just this week the Navy tested its next generation drone which could carry bombs and land on aircraft carrier with hardly any human control The directive only applies to lethal systems. Now this is great, wait until you get the people who are against the Human Rights Watch and listen how they turn that around It still allows the military to develop autonomous spy planes As we begin to approach the possibility of having machines select and engage targets We want to be very careful not to cross that line without high level policy review

2:07:45 Human Rights Watch. By the way, every single time you hear that jet engine sound that is sweetened you see a drone flying drones they don't have jet engines they have a big propeller on the back but everything throughout the entire piece you see did you see the Reaper and the Raptor with the propeller on the back and they make they put it they put the jet sound underneath what's the Pentagon's move hold on oops I stepped on the most important piece here we go Human Rights Watch applauds. We do not believe it's... You have to cross that line without high-level policy review. Human Rights Watch applauds the Pentagon's move We do not believe it solves the problem, however So the group is calling for... That was a soundbite! ...governments to ban autonomous... It's the best they could do? And here's what Human Rights Watch said They wrote an article BAN KILLER ROBOTS BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! And how did that show up in the news report?!

2:08:50 Human Rights Watch applauds the Pentagon's move. We do not believe it solves the problem, however... How do you put those two together? So the group is calling for governments to ban autonomous weapons outright. Bonnie Docherty points to Syria and wonders what... Then they go on about how great it is okay So I need to read a few relevant parts of this legislation. It's not even legislation, it is a directive. Department of Defense Directive Subject Autonomy in Weapons Systems Policy! It is DoD policy that... Okay John you'll love this. Autonomous and semi-autonomous weapons systems shall be designed to allow commanders and operators to exercise appropriate levels of human judgment over the use of force

2:09:43 What does that sound like to you? Like things gonna be on autopilot and if you want to do something, you can do something. So it won't be like Skynet necessarily where you can no longer take over control but pretty much these things will be autonomous Systems will go through rigorous hardware and software verification and validation Can we get in on that contract please? Oh yeah that's a scam Here's a good one. Complete engagements in a time frame consistent with commander and operator intentions, and if unable to do so terminate engagements or seek additional human operator input before continuing the engagement. Hey! I'm out of control come help me

2:10:28 Also, the system shall be sufficiently robust to minimize failures that could lead to unintended engagements or to the loss of control of the system to unauthorized parties. Not eliminate! Minimize. Does anyone see this? Minimize. All systems shall be readily understandable by trained operators, of course Persons who authorize the use of, direct the use of or operate autonomous and semi-autonomous weapon systems must do so with appropriate care and in accordance with the law of war applicable treaties weapon system safety rules and applicable rules of engagement. Be careful now when you turn up flip on auto switch! Semi-autonomous weapons systems that are onboard or integrated with unarmed platforms must be designed

2:11:23 unmanned platforms must be designed such that in the event of degraded or lost communications, the system does not autonomously select and engage individual targets or specific target groups that have not been previously selected by an authorized human operator. In other words if they program it to go after a human and they lose control of it... It's too bad if you're the wrong guy and I can't turn it off but is not.. They won't go off and kill another guy I mean, i'm living the science fiction movie when I read this. So it only kills the one guy? Or guys It only kills the one wrong guy Well here is Autonomous weapon systems may be used to apply non-lethal Non kinetic force such as some forms of electronic attack Attack against material targets in accordance with DoD Directive 3000.3 so in other words Drones can be autonomous To attack like they're doing right now to me

2:12:23 to attack you electronically, which could also be a taser I guess or just shoot a beanbag at you. Non-lethal force So they're saying is there will be autonomous drones and they will go out and they will seek down profiles and signatures of people but they just won't kill people while doing that They can hurt them with electronic means etc so it's only one small step until they are completely autonomous and go out and kill anyone at any time. And somehow this has turned into this great report which Human Rights Watch thinks is fantastic, and then of course we need to cover it up make drones seem friendly so we bring out CNN and Erin Burnett and she has to do a stupid puff piece with the Pentagon reporter about drones that are cutesy.

CHAPTER 30 / 35 Discussion

Nature-Inspired Drones, Al Jazeera Ship Blooper

The segment covers DARPA's development of nature-inspired robots, including the "Bioswimmer" fish drone and the "Robo-mule." This is followed by a humorous audio blooper from Al Jazeera where a reporter repeatedly stumbles over the phrase "giant ships" while reporting on cruise ship pollution in Venice.

darpa· bioswimmer· robo-mule· al jazeera· venice· cruise ships

2:13:12 with fins. Drones with fins! The number of American drones has surged, you're probably aware of that but I mean the numbers are pretty incredible in 2001 we had 50 of them now we have 7500 drones. In a new twist the machines designed to watch are now looking like fish Like fish This is called the Bioswimmer it was developed by the Department of Homeland Security to dart into hard-to-reach places underwater and it's not the only nature inspired robot there is a cheetah They put a skin on it and of course the Robo mule both developed by the Advanced Defense advanced research projects agency which is called DARPA. Do you see what they're doing? Like they slip all this real stuff under the radar, and then they give you cutesy little stuff on television like ah look at the mule! Ah that's a cute mule! He's a drone So you're telling me that the news media

2:14:16 No, no. It's slanting the story to suit the purposes of the Defense Department. And that closes another segment of A Drone Again Naturally. Let's lighten things up. Yeah okay So I got a... well we got this Julian Assange on Manning but that's not light We got brain science bullcrap, but that's not what I got. That's light and what you guys like I Produced this clip because I couldn't believe what this guy said And so I made it so I clipped it So he said at a couple times so you can hear exactly What he said in this report and this is the kind of news you get on the on the Al Jazeera which supposed to be good coverage anyway

2:15:00 Now cruise ships contribute hundreds of millions of dollars to the economy in Venice, Italy. But the cruise business there is facing growing opposition. Critics say that big vessels pollute the area's delicate ecosystem from Venice. Claudio Lavanga reports A floating city and the other floating city. This is one of the hundred cruise liners that sail through Venice every year on them thousands of passengers a boost to the city's tourism industry but along with the tourists this giant ship bring with it wave of criticism but along with the tourists this giant ships bring with them a wave of criticism, giant ships, giant ships

2:15:51 And that was on Al Jazeera and someone went, hey that's a great package put it on the air Shit bring with them a wave of criticism But along with the tourists, these giant ships bring with them a wave of criticism. Giant ships! Giant ships! It's one of those things that just remains funny no matter how many times you play it. Love that. So I got a clip here that is one of those that i discovered after...I thought it was fishy when I first heard it. Yeah, hey by the way I turned off my cell phone

CHAPTER 31 / 35 Discussion

Tunisia Riots, Israeli Munitions Claim

Reports of renewed rioting in Siliana, Tunisia, are analyzed. The hosts find it suspicious that a local protester interviewed on the scene was able to specifically identify that the police were using a type of tear gas canister "that even the Israelis don't use," suggesting the presence of professional activists or mercenaries.

tunisia· siliana· arab spring· tear gas· israel· mercenaries

2:16:39 I think that might have, i think the cell phone when it was hitting a certain cell. It was probably interacting with the new tube amp so unless it happens again... Yeah yeah no the cell phones cause problems with all kinds of gear right? So they're always tagging them you know they're tagging and they're always yeah i'm here! Sending my coordinates to uh home base as a person of interest. Yeah turned off. You know what well i'm considering I'm not gonna use a cell phone at all anymore. Just, just won't have one and you don't need one! I can commune...I can get internet connectivity through ham radio. I'll just carry that around. It's slow but it works. I can just connect to the Internet they can't track me they can't track me in like they don't have that they've forgotten how to track me this way they don't even do it anymore. Oh because nobody nobody but a few crackpots use hammer exactly exactly

2:17:33 That's my plan. So I thought this was kind of interesting, apparently all you know are this great Arab Spring which began in Tunisia really hasn't ended now there were riots going on in Tunisia again and so I recorded part of this report and then there was this anomalous thing that this guy said and then I started thinking about it and then I will talk to you about about it is very...you'll notice it too which is peculiar A deal between Tunisia's government and a delegation from the town of Siliana appears to have failed to bring calm to the area. Days of violent protest there have left hundreds injured, Hashim Al-Bara has more

2:18:13 Despite a deal, clashes continued Saturday evening. One of the key demands of local residents was to remove the governor Now under the new agreement he will be replaced by his deputy But it's still tense on the streets of Sileana Police and the National Guard fire tear gas canisters, and warning shots to prevent these protesters from getting closer to the local police headquarters. They're using shotgun pellets in a new type of tear gas canister that even the Israelis don't use. Okay... Now why is a guy in Tunisia who's obviously one of the protesters

2:19:04 commenting on the munitions specifically not the kind of tear gas that even the Israelis don't use. It's because Americans sold it to him, I would presume? No no! The point is why does this guy know what the Israelis use unless he just obviously one of these troublemakers that goes from place to place and he knows! This is the thing, the Israelis don't use this stuff...I just think its peculiar. It doesn't surprise me. These guys are all mercenaries That's the racket to be in, my friend. Yeah well it definitely paid better... That is the racket to being in for sure So I've come to the conclusion that you know The Koch brothers? The evil Koch brothers? You ever notice if you watch PBS there's never anything about them on PBS because they contribute to the news hours of Koch Brothers Right? Because that how your media works Of course And I think the Koch brothers have been shaken down I think they're probably just two guys If you can get a hold of em' you can shake em down

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

Eurovision Song Contest, European Financial Crisis

The Eurovision Song Contest is facing a crisis as several countries, including Portugal, Poland, Cyprus, and Greece, have pulled out of the competition. The hosts attribute this to the broader European financial collapse, noting that these nations can no longer justify the expense of participating in the televised event.

eurovision· portugal· poland· cyprus· greece· financial collapse

2:22:46 What is it about the Eurovision Song Contest? Ah Yeah, you know we're see what's today's day cuz we had a pool on when you'd bring that up. Yeah Well the sad news is that several countries are now pulling out of the contest there It is not the cell phone No Then it's definitely it this is a new thing You have very very sad Portugal Poland have pulled out Cyprus Greece All pulling out. I think the thing's gonna collapse! The whole thing is just going to fall apart at the seams. Oh, that's a shame... Yeah. I'm very very saddened by all this

2:23:29 A couple of... Was there any reason for them pulling out? Yeah, of course. Sick of it or is corrupt? They're broke! There's no money they got nothing they can't put on the shows on television you know and by the way you can't do that if you can say like hey listen slave stupid citizen give me all your money so we can put on a song contest Hey No You just have to deal with the voice and the idol, and X-Factor like every other stupid country. That's the only reason of course! Ah damn John this... I'm worried about this. I really am. Is this is the weirdest thing? We've never had any radiation coming in? No. It didn't happen during the first part of the show? No. Hmm. I want to just run through a couple quick things it isn't something maybe they're beaming

CHAPTER 34 / 35 Discussion

ITU Dubai Conference, Internet Freedom Double-Speak

The World Conference on International Telecommunications in Dubai is the focus of a discussion on the future of the internet. The hosts argue that the "Internet Freedom" rhetoric from the White House and Google is a cover for a "sender pays" system that would destroy the current peering model. They suggest this would allow large corporations to consolidate control and eliminate independent competition.

itu· dubai· internet freedom· peering· net neutrality· google· hillary clinton

2:24:23 Maybe you should put a tinfoil hat on. Okay, that's a good idea You know you never know tin foil hats can be useful to reflect radiation energy or make it receive better Right there on the White House blog today here it is as predicted you can scrap it out of the Red Book Preserving internet freedom that's right As we have the World Conference on International Telecommunications coming up in Dubai, which is a nice place to hang out if you're in the ITU. And the White House actually of course is all about money

2:25:02 The White House is urging you to read communications from the FCC, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration and the State Department. And we're to complain...to tell the ITU, the International Telecommunication Union bring in the interwebs as a part of their charter and mandate. And I just wanted to say that this conversation, and this is not about the DNS system you know that's always part of the conversation and trust me with Bill Clinton talking and hanging out with the guys at ICANN that thing ain't leaving the United States ever soon but this is about peering

2:25:44 and the way the internet works in general. And I would say that big companies like Google who are out there saying, oh this is bad you know we can't have a sender pay system...I think that's absolute bullcrap! I think they secretly all really want it. Amazon wants it Netflix wants it Google wants it Yahoo wants it, Microsoft wants it. Apple wants... Everybody wants a payer system because then they can block everyone out of the market that's what they want so than only the big guys who can afford a payer system instead of peering and I did it's a little too complicated to go into the workings of this and how the Internet actually came to be but I believe we will see a payer

2:26:28 a sender pays internet and that it will covertly initially be sponsored by the very same A-holes who are screaming for Internet freedom right now. Internet freedom, please! That's the biggest double speak I've ever heard of What say ye? I don't know You think they're really pure in this I don't know. I mean, they might...I wouldn't be surprised if they were but i'd be more inclined to believe your thesis because it think about what ruined the record business? What is ruining television and radio? What is ruining print? What's ruining anything that has to do with distribution is the fact that distribution

2:27:11 It's effectively free. Of course it is not totally free because we pay for a piece of our bandwidth, or actually our producers Mr Oil, Void Zero and a lot of stuff that goes on there. Everyone is working on this But imagine if we really also in addition to that have to pay to send it. Well, there's no way! We'd be out of business and we can't have a central point to send stuff from so would have to do BitTorrent which will be made illegal etc... And, you know the record companies would love nothing more than this. This would be great! Yeah they'd be back in business Exactly the way it was and this is the old way and when someone says they're gonna give you internet freedom run the other direction because these people are not sincere with their internet freedom I mean come on have you learned nothing by now? It's NOT freedom Freedom ain't nothin' Nothing left to lose Yeah...I have to think about it more Are you on Twitter today? yeah I am Because this will come up

2:28:17 You know, by the way every time you say something like that it never comes up. This will come up and I want you to say Internet freedom is new world order double speak for internet unfreedom for internet slavery. Actually, I can get away with saying that and everyone would roll their eyes there the chat room but like I've always believed that this is gonna all get shut not shut down completely but it's going to be more controlled than before. It's the nature of things Can't have this sort of thing. Nope you know a Jc was pointing out some research He read recently apparently the Chinese who are like half giving up on trying to censor the net without just shutting down Mr.. Curry, mr.. Curry

2:29:15 Where's the knock on the door? I'm glad i have my Uggs on. Can you imagine if I was grounded? I can see you with Uggs, that's just disgusting At some point I think everything's gonna be an intranet and there just country because nobody say we shut off international access and say China shuts himself down it becomes just a local. And there's no yeah, there's a couple interconnections for them elites but the public they don't care if our internet in the United States would just shut down so it was just a local intranet that we could talk to France. No even goes beyond that this see

2:29:52 Yeah, I know you're going you're taking it to a limit do it maximum so it's denied up as expensive but but I just want I just want people to understand the whole reason why the internet works is because Time Warner and AT&T and Verizon and level 3 and The backbone providers they have agreements peering agreements Which is it's literally a written contract And says hey if you send me this much money traffic I am able to send you that much traffic and we just call it kind of a wash and maybe you're little bit more this week, a little bit less. And then if i'm too congested you have to buy transit to go around it so your more effective in managing the internet works in a very very very beautiful way. That's actually stemmed from as it became international It actually cost people money serious money to go through May East and May West

2:30:40 and these big holes, these big hubs which all the international traffic was routed through. So and so there was all this There's these they were routing in such a way that was costing everybody a lot of money until they said look if you okay We can hook up. We don't need to go through there because you're going through the air But you're also going this way around them well round the horn And I can give I hope to you You can go around the horn with my traffic, and then I could by the way down here where you can get it? I go there, and then you could hook to me here, and it'll all be free now The good news is that the majority of? sysadmins

2:31:16 who speak at BGP, Border Gateway Protocol listen to this very show. So we will always have our backdoor access We will have our private privately peered privately tunneled internet It may not be super fast but we'll always have some kind of access because that's how the sysadmins of the world roll But the normal citizens and slaves they will be paying up the ying yang either through subscription fees or if you want to actually serve something yourself forget about it And the idea, and this is where Leo makes the mistake. The idea that bandwidth is free is bull crap! He has no idea how it works You get a lot of traffic you need more routers these are not like cheap little boxes You know this is not like a Linksys you got sitting there or Netgear These are huge very expensive very quick processing machines More traffic means more these machines more maintenance There's an absolute cost to it

2:32:09 But we have this beautiful ecosystem that works very, very well and now everyone's getting greedy. And the main people getting greedy are the entertainment companies, the very same ones who are you sucking off by looking at their Netflix bull crap and Amazon jerk-off stuff. They're going to screw you! It is all under Internet freedom brought to you by The White House. Every single time Hillary Clinton is involved with something called freedom, you can bet she'll be in shackles Because she is Lucifer. Well, I think that wraps the show hey i do have that Brzezinski end of show clip I'd like to play Is this a new clip or an old clip? It's the one from the last show I promised to play on this show. I know but is this an actual clip from something new or something old Yeah no it's fairly new he was at a Think Tank

CHAPTER 35 / 35 Discussion

Zbigniew Brzezinski, Russian Geopolitics, Zombie Gun Sales

The show concludes with a clip of Zbigniew Brzezinski discussing Russian strategic interests in the Middle East and the Caucasus. Brzezinski suggests that some Russian strategists may prefer regional instability to increase European dependence on Russian energy. The final segment mentions a surge in US gun sales attributed to "zombie" themed marketing.

zbigniew brzezinski· russia· energy supply· azerbaijan· georgia· zombies

2:32:58 And so they were asking him questions and he wasn't paying any attention to what he said, but he kind of outlined some of the principles of negotiating with the Middle East and Iranian situation in some of these other things. In a way that just sounds like... He was trying to deconstruct what the Russians are doing with negotiations and all the rest of it in a way that even he was having to say you know that night i can see everybody's thinking this way but i know for a fact some people are and it was right that was very entertaining also on thursday high wall of bringing some unbelievable news as we continue to investigate the true vada scandal of the drug that uh... fits right into the blueprint that hillary clinton is laid out for us and i'm sure people are making a bundle on its own where just weird not will be lined up for you

2:33:53 along with more goodness. But please, donate to the show otherwise I feel bad about all the work that we're about to do. Yeah, deborahdt.org slash NA, Do yourself a favor Especially the people out there who never donated. But I'm not... How many of you? This is like 98% of ya boner Miss Mickey's coming home tonight so no matter what happens i'm happy. I'm poor but I'm happy and thats the way it be my friends It is The American Dream Coming to you from the capital of the drone star state, where we have no state taxes. But real estate taxes are a bitch! In the morning I'm Adam Curry Yeah and from northern Silicon Valley where... We've got taxes and ants! I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday God willing right here on NO Agenda

2:34:56 actually making the preferable option a success. I'm not sure that i have a prescription that really meets the high standards that you have set for it but, I do think at some point a parallel dialogue probably conducted in some degree of deliberate secrecy although that is difficult on the American side a parallel dialogue between the United States and Iran might be desirable in addition to the more formal negotiations. A great deal depends here also on what are the long-range motives that drive the participation of the Chinese and Russians in a negotiating process? There may not be the same, I think that Chinese are obviously more interested

2:35:47 in maintaining a general stability from an international economic point of view, for obvious reasons given their dependence on Middle Eastern oil. In the Russian case there may be some ambivalence among Russian decision makers as they assess the long-range significance of this issue for the American-Russian strategic balance and for that matter for Russia's geopolitical role One can at least make the theoretical case, and I'm not making it in terms of the Russian leadership as a whole. But I can envisage some Russian strategists saying is it really bad for us if America gets into another major and protracted conflict in the region? America will not suffer very much because of the revolution in American energy supplies but

2:36:43 the region will be affected adversely. If the region is affected adversely, the dependence of Europe on Russian energy supplies dramatically increases. Is that necessarily bad from a Russian point-of-view? Secondly if the region erupts into violence ongoing arrangements generated over the last two or three decades largely by an American strategy designed to diminish European dependence on Russian energy. I have in mind particularly Baku-Chehan pipeline and the general role of Azerbaijan

2:37:21 and Georgia in providing access in the near future to Turkmeni energy, to Europe directly and not via Russia is something that I'm sure some Russians would like in some fashion to undercut. So even without a massive outbreak of violence in the region but real tension in the region some escalating collisions or explosions Might give the Russians some strategists in Russia might argue that free your hand to deal with Georgia and Azerbaijan That would have Jewish strategic consequences very adverse To Europe and to the United States, so I think we don't have a very clear sense of the degree to which

2:38:04 These partners in the negotiating process are motivated to the same degree as we by the desire to avoid an explosion in the region. At least one of those two that I have mentioned might have At least on the part of some individuals I want to repeat that because i'm not saying that this is the official Russian point of view or the official russian strategy But some individuals in Russia who are hard-nosed strategists might say to themselves well Are we really sure that it's an hour interest resolve this problem? oh

2:38:43 And a wave of criticism giant ships giant ships giant ships Something is driving up gun sales. Have you heard about this? Not just in Western, Washington either but all over the country and the answer may surprise you it is all because I've get this Zombies you heard me right zombies to Borac org slash n a