Episode 458 · Sunday, 4 November 2012

Punch a Puppy!

From the Ritz Carlton to the ruins of Haiti, the world of the hyper-elite is unmasked through wine markups, pipeline sabotage, and the global khat trade.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 36m listen | 51 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 458

About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast from San Francisco following a high-stakes charity gala for the Reconstructive Surgery Foundation. The event, attended by elite medical venture capitalists from firms like Kleiner Perkins, serves as a backdrop for a deep dive into the political leanings of the hyper-wealthy. Curry details his interactions with billionaire donors while exposing the massive wine markups at the Ritz Carlton Parallel 37, where rare bottles like the 1947 Cheval Blanc command five-figure prices.

The global landscape shifts as Hurricane Sandy's aftermath reveals a stark disparity between media narratives and reality. While NBC hosts benefit concerts featuring Bruce Springsteen, reports from Haiti indicate a rice price surge and a cholera outbreak following a controversial visit by Bill and Hillary Clinton to a South Korean-run garment factory. In the Balkans, Madeleine Albright faces war criminal accusations during a Prague book signing, while in Russia, Vladimir Putin struggles with health rumors following a suspicious back injury in Vladivostok. Meanwhile, the Afghan saffron market collapses as Iranian smugglers seize control of the trade, and new theories suggest U.S. drone strikes in Yemen are targeting the khat stimulant supply chain rather than terrorist cells.

Technical glitches and ham radio failures haunt the session as Curry battles a severe Texas mold allergy and an infected eye treated with chamomile tea. Between critiques of the British two-pound coin's resemblance to Osama bin Laden and John C. Dvorak's meta-prepper strategy of using silent electric vehicles to raid neighbors, the duo introduces the What's John Eating segment featuring a seasonal persimmon. The broadcast concludes with a stern warning about the sustainability of the No Agenda model and a look at Gary Johnson's unconventional stance on puppy punching.


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CHAPTER 01 / 51 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Open Show from San Francisco

Adam Curry broadcasts from a hotel in San Francisco while dealing with an infected eye, which he treats with chamomile tea bags provided by his wife. John C. Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley as they prepare for their Sunday morning session. The hosts exchange banter about the local environment and the physical ailments associated with traveling for charity events.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· san francisco· chamomile tea· eye infection

00:00 You do not punch a puppy when you're smoking weed. bagging my left eye here in the hotel in San Francisco, in the People's Republic of Northern California. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I remain I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah infected eye you have uh... stink-eye? No stink-eyes. What is that called a sty?

00:44 Yeah, well it used to be a sty is a layman's term but it was called something else. No I have an infected eye It's just that yeah You got to get this goo in you put it in the eye and boom good to go Well when you're doing a show And not just any show of course when you're doing You can't be like going to the pharmacy in the morning you gotta make do with what you got on Sunday In the morning on Sunday in the morning. I Miss Mickey has given me a chamomile tea bag I have to say there's something to it. Well if it clears up you're in business Yeah, um You know I got this of course from some of these nasty rich people last night That's where I got it from

CHAPTER 02 / 51 Discussion

Reconstructive Surgery Foundation Charity Benefit and Medical Venture Capitalists

Adam Curry describes hosting an annual charity benefit for a research foundation that sends plastic surgeons to treat burn victims and children with cleft palates in developing countries. The event is attended by high-level medical venture capitalists and investors from firms like Kleiner Perkins. The discussion highlights the immense wealth within the medical finance community compared to traditional tech sectors.

research foundation· reconstructive surgery· venture capitalists· kleiner perkins· genentech

01:29 Well you shook too many hands and rubbed your eyeball? No, they were licking my eye. You know these elites man... They're crazy! Yeah we need to lick an eye today. So let me explain... Pick him! Miss Mickey and I are in San Francisco every year we host a charity benefit which is for the Research Foundation they've been around for like 42 years and they are the original a charity that sends doctors out, not just any doctors plastic surgeons reconstructive surges to fix brown people around the world mainly kids so they have burn wounds which is very common in developing countries and cleft lips...cleft palates I should say

02:15 And so we do this every year and it's really interesting because the people who attend these are the medical venture capitalists. Now you think that like the guys who back Google and Facebook, you think they're rich? What do you say John would you say that the medical finance community is richer than that Well, you know if you take a look at some of these VC companies like Kleiner Perkins for example. They're deep into all that stuff I mean they were the investors in Genentech and they got a lot of guys in the company retired You know be having too much money because yeah And then you should see their boats they're really nice so yes So these are extremely funnier. Yeah well These are extremely wealthy people

CHAPTER 03 / 51 Discussion

Political Leanings of the Ultra-Wealthy and Social Status Quo

The hosts analyze the political affiliations of the hyper-rich, noting that many billionaires like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates identify as Democrats. They argue that the elite prefer the Democratic Party because it maintains the social status quo and prevents class mobility that might disrupt their positions. The conversation suggests that modern Republicans have moved toward big government, making them less distinct from their counterparts.

democrats· republicans· warren buffet· bill gates· social classes

03:09 But what's interesting is 99.9% of them are Democrats You know you've known this, I'm known it The richest people i know are all democrats But im putting out there because most people think rich people are republicans and that just does not ring true in my experience No no its never rung true the Duponts the Hursts the Gates People Warren Buffet I mean all these super wealthy ppl we personally know I don't know any of the DuPonts. All Democrats and they're adamant about it, exactly

03:47 But you know the reason, I have this rationale for which always annoys Democrats. It's just because they're super wealthy do not like to see a lot of social movement They don't want to see people getting bumping into them They want to keep everything status quo and the Democrat Party as far as i'm concerned has always been to keep things Keep this classes where they are or maybe push it down a little bit if we can to keep him away from you know the came away from us rich people and don't really have a car with them yet don't upset the apple cart this is good the way it is we like being at least as fine just to keep that when the republicans are always trying to do so you know even though not recently is a republican has been acting like democrats more recently big government yeah but they're about which is why there's no reason to vote for him

04:35 The Republicans tend to be like, you know let's put other people into that category and the hyper-rich, the ultra, the elites don't like them. Mingle with people like the Hoyt-Polloy beneath them. Well they put up with us for the uh... because you know we're doing something for free so i guess that from there like a little let me know your celebrity your your do you look at your part of the celebrity class which is it by a kind of a proxy class you know that lindsey lohan's anyone has made a minute when they had to be with a date and a lot of attention for themselves in this way if did you want to wait a minute not just put me in the category with their lindsay lohan and taylor swift

CHAPTER 04 / 51 Discussion

Interaction with Venture Capitalist Wives and Celebrity Status

Adam Curry recounts his experience interacting with the wives of venture capitalists at the charity gala, noting that his "celebrity" status from his MTV days still resonates with that demographic. He jokes about his ability to solicit large donations based on his recognizable persona and hair. The hosts discuss the boundary between their public podcasting personas and their roles within elite social circles.

venture capitalists· celebrity class· richard stallman· fundraising· hair

05:19 This is an outrage. But you're right, a lot of these people's wives they all got trophy wives not all of them but... I'm telling you let's put it this way they are not inviting Richard Stallman to come up here and give these awards No! I wouldn't go if he was giving any award A lot of the VCs have wives who are 40 and its perfect that is my target demo They all remember me. I talked to that guy, he still has the hair! And they all mention it too. Oh yeah... I've been around with somebody who recognizes you and they always go about the hair. Geez! I literally talked a hundred grand out of one lady's pocketbook

06:12 a hundred grand. Get them to listen to the No Agenda show! Yeah, no I... if they listened to the show we'll never get invited back. They'd be like oh that guy now know we heard his pod thing now now that's alright you don't need him anyway but it was so what some people know is that uh... its been over a year at least but there was a rare Mohammed coming to the mountain as we had a, we shared a meal together John. Oh yeah! Do you remember or did you forget already?

CHAPTER 05 / 51 Discussion

Ritz Carlton San Francisco and Parallel 37 Restaurant Review

The hosts review their dining experience at Parallel 37, the restaurant inside the Ritz Carlton San Francisco. They critique the hotel's transition under Marriott ownership, noting a shift toward a "W Hotel" aesthetic to compete with the Four Seasons. While the tasting menu was considered decent, they express disappointment in the lack of a professional sommelier.

ritz carlton· parallel 37· san francisco· marriott· tasting menu

06:53 Yeah, we need to do it. Some people... We have a new knight that was wondering if we could talk about wine and food once in awhile? And I've got a couple of things to say about that meal Well let me first say that we had the... So Miss Mickey and I come up here on our own dime to this charity In order to have a meal at the restaurant we ate at, we were fortunate enough to have a patron who actually listens to the show and said, well why don't I pick up the tab so you guys can do some food and wine talk. And i have to say we encourage this type of support in the program So are you staying at Ritz Carlton which is not as rich as it once was since the Marriott bought them about 10 years ago? No its basically a Marriot yeah

07:47 Yeah, it's a fancy Marriott. In fact they've noticed that the way they've changed it recently in the San Francisco operation is... It seems to be wanting to compete with The Four Seasons I think they're trying to compete with... Yeah, I think they're trying to compete with a couple of different hotels who have recently... They're trying to have like more contemporary lobby with kind of modern-ish art. Right, little W action. Yeah, the W action that's exactly it! It's kind of a W and in fact the price is W priced is not really outrageously expensive. All things considered obviously and of course before our benefit discount.

08:28 They had a good, yeah they had a discount. They had a good tasting menu that was you know got a little tedious after awhile but it was inexpensive and considering but they have this so here's the problem I always have with some of these places they don't have a wine sommelier and uh... nearly couldn't they can afford the extra cost of somebody knows what he's doing in one look at their wine listen you can tell it because it's just an incompetent well-honed you should have been mentioned earlier that the wine list wasn't a wine list they brought out and i had in a leather binder night pad yeah yeah i thought there was a bit using john rollers eyes okay

CHAPTER 06 / 51 Discussion

Wine List Markups and 1947 Cheval Blanc Pricing

A detailed critique of the wine list at Parallel 37 reveals extreme markups, with the hosts claiming prices are four times the retail value. They highlight the presence of rare bottles like a 1947 Cheval Blanc and a 1945 Petrus priced at $16,000 each. The segment concludes with a discussion of the 2009 Far Niente Cabernet Sauvignon they eventually consumed.

cheval blanc· petrus· wine markup· far ninte· sommelier

09:11 So it's like, okay fine they got out an iPad wine list. But the cool thing was if you tagged one of the bottles a pop-up came up and gave her little more details although there wasn't a lot of details whatever the case was they had wines on their like... And wine connoisseurs out there will recognize some of these but 1947 Chevelle Blanc of all things for $16,000 dollars and also 1945 Petrus for the same price and I'm thinking for one thing, of course we couldn't get these wines needless to say but i think these wines can be in good shape period. But be that as it may the rest of the list was a mishmash overpriced wines and here's what really got me is where I really detest this I am saying the word really too much but I did test the markup because I familiar with all the prices on most of the wines on there 4X retail Really? Yeah! The wine we had

10:10 4X retail. All the other wines that were picked out, 4x retail I mean please! Obviously somebody ordered a $16000 bottle of 47 Chevelle Blanc and sent it back and now they gotta make up for it. Well I have no idea why... I actually suggested that we order that and then as it was poured we say No this is corked so we're not going to trade back. Yeah you said that, that was funny It's corked. It probably was too, but anyway so the joke is 4X retail is outrageous 3x retail is outrageous a wine list should be good wine list with and no good restaurant that's not trying to rip off the customer should be three times wholesale

10:53 and that would be a reasonable markup. So no, 4X Retail so I thought that was... That's the Ritz Carlton what was the name of that restaurant? They redid it. It's Parallel 37 Yeah, Parallel 37 And if you want to overpriced wines there is the place to go. Anyway... Exactly Meanwhile, of course I walk in with the maitre d' who is walking us to the table. Can we talk to the sommelier? Because there was already looking at the wine list and says oh uh all your questions and i said okay great so i started grilling him about certain wines and you could tell he didn't know what he was talking about

11:44 Not I don't know it's hard to explain but at some point when you have a rapport with a real good wine guy And that's why I call him the one guy You can tell that they know what they're talking about. You can tell they don't have like well, I say things like well It's one of my favorites Now this guy's got John this guy was selling refreshments in the foyer He had no clue even I could see the guy had no clue Yeah And so anyway, I wasn't going to pay any attention. I was going to pay very little attention whatever he suggested and so i had the wing it so I picked a safe overpriced wine Anyway that was that and I think this is going on a lot all over the place Could you just tell everyone what we drank because people are interested We had in 2009 Fargnante Cabernet Sauvignon which was good It wouldn't have been as good as a Caymus

12:37 of the same vintage, but it was good. And on our side of the table... By the way it's overpriced at a regular price but this was ridiculous Yeah I thought that label was very intricate and Miss Mickey... It's pretty label yes! ...and Miss Mickey thought it smelled like perfume No it wasn't, it was a reasonably nice wine Let me see what their retail is for this one Ugh! It was quite outrageous though No I know what we paid 4x the retail now while you're looking it up we are again never mind i don't have to do we had the uh... what had the tasting menu for a for dinner which was six courses and i have to say there's so they've lost their chef this is the the chef who was there the last time we did this restaurant john which i think was two three years ago before was this changed modern thirty seven parallel yeah i was in french style classic french style restaurant yet and um... so that but they just lost their shift too

CHAPTER 07 / 51 Discussion

Silver Exchange and Ham Radio Technical Difficulties

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss a physical meeting where they exchanged silver pieces, including a KGB challenge coin and a Liberty Dollar. Adam expresses frustration that his portable ham radio failed to pick up any signals from John's vehicle during his drive into San Francisco. John explains he opted not to drive his electric car due to bridge traffic and toll issues.

challenge coins· liberty dollar· ham radio· silver· san francisco

13:35 Michael Minna, is that what his name is? The restaurateur. Yeah he went to a new Michael Minna restaurant Right so it was the sous chef who was still handling the restaurant I thought it was good! I liked it you know little tasty bits of this and that and some fish and some chicken and then some pork belly It was good...I liked it. It was decent Well it looks like we paid three times retail for that one Anyway, there were definitely 4X's on there. It was nice seeing you John. Yeah I know but the pleasure was mine! I'm sure it was...it's so funny we meet up like hey where is that challenge coin? You got two of them here. Hey remember that Liberty Dollar you got two of? The guys who donated some of these things they got the KGB challenge coin. They actually went over and Adam has in a couple

14:35 Crazy pieces of silver and a Liberty Dollar. That's nice It's the exchange the exchange takes place in meanwhile here I am mr.. Stupid, I bring my My bail thing HT portable ham radio to San Francisco thinking John's gonna be driving in in the battery car And he's gonna be on the on the mobile and we'll have a chat all the way on the repeater but no No, I'm just getting static. I'm hearing nothing Of course! I didn't bring the battery car Oh what a disappointment Well...I was uh... I looked at the traffic and i needed my tag which gets me across the bridge faster and I wasn't going to stand in line to use the battery and wait to pay four bucks to go across the bridge Alright then well you're excused anyway Mickey is more in love with you than ever And I guess that's a good thing

CHAPTER 08 / 51 Discussion

Adam Curry Job Interview and Podcast Economics

Adam Curry reveals he recently attended his first traditional job interview in an attempt to find a more stable income source, as radio and podcasting fees are currently insufficient. He humorously ranks the profession of "podcaster" below "rodeo clown" in terms of financial viability. The segment is interrupted by technical audio delays requiring a reconnection.

job interview· radio industry· podcasting· income· rodeo clown

15:30 Well, she uses me for certain kinds of advice about things like pocket cameras. Yeah And I think it appreciates the fact that I do some research so she's doing well as a photographer apparently so that's good for you She is doing better than our donations for this last two shows Uh yeah and by the way i did not get the gig Remember Thursday? I had a job interview It's the first job interview I've ever had, I've ever done. I think it was like nah that's not gonna work out when you went to work for radio stations didn't have to do a

16:12 Yeah, but this is not a radio station gig. I'm just trying to get something that'll actually pay the bills. Radio does not pay the bills my friend in case you hadn't noticed. It used to! Well yeah well you've got radio and then below that you have somewhere after a whole big void after Rodeo Clown there's Podcaster down there at the bottom Yeah, you should... That rodeo clown. You should reconnect to Mumbled there's a huge delay we've got right now Oh are we getting a delay? yeah I can tell your really delayed just reconnect

CHAPTER 09 / 51 Discussion

Environmental Allergies and Texas Mold Alerts

The hosts discuss Adam's ongoing health issues, which John attributes to the psychological stress of moving to a new environment like Texas. Adam clarifies that he is suffering from a severe mold allergy triggered by high local alerts. He describes the difficulty of managing the condition with medication while adjusting to the different allergens found in the Austin area.

allergies· mold· texas· ragweed· cedar

16:51 Okay, I'll do what I have to do. Of course when you reconnect then we know what happens Yeah now it won't work It's gonna take me another five minutes to get new sound It'l be worth it. It's okay. I'll hum a little ditty but you should really do that Ah, I'd be right back Okay of course I still have this cold which I think was part of it was allergy related Yeah, I saw you. You didn't look sick Oh thanks! Believe me...I'm sick It's just- You don't look sick it's bullcrap. It's gotta either be an allergy which makes a lot of sense to me it's a new area and when people move into a new area in a new culture they always have psychological issues and that gives them allergies Okay

17:38 You're saying I have psychological issues? No, it's what happens when you move into a new environment that is so radically different from everything you are used to and I would say Texas qualifies. Well it's the mold allergy and um...I have pills for but wasn't taking enough I guess and there was like a severe allergy alert and I wasn't paying attention and uh... you let that go on for but they have these allergy alerts, you know one day it's cedar the next day it's ragweed none of that bothers me. Ragweed is the worst I actually am allergic to that well apparently the mold is what I'm allergic too and they had like a red alert all the way to the end of the scale and I was like popping two of these pills when I was supposed to be taking 12 a day I thought I wasn't maintenance so thats what happened but then you get this combination of nasal drip anyway who gives a crap there stuff to talk about in the world first let us thank our

CHAPTER 10 / 51 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Parliamentary Grumble Karma

The hosts acknowledge significant donations from executive producers, including Vicky Poole from Memphis and Daniel Mack from Minneapolis. They perform various "karma" sound triggers, such as the Atlas Shrugged and Italian Girl clips, in exchange for the financial support. Daniel Mack specifically requests a "de-douching" and joins the "4-5-8 club" based on the episode number.

vicky poole· ronald dreslinski jr· daniel mack· donations· karma

18:35 Let me see the list here. Do we have someone to thank? Yes, yes we do. We have three people to thank and they deserve all the thanks in the world because the number of people that came in at normal rates is pretty pathetic but not so with these folks. And by the way change Vivian Poole's name to Vicky Yeah I got it She calls herself on the knighthood thing she's in Memphis Tennessee she donated 62969 and she says the donations should make her total contributions for The Greatest Podcasts In The Universe equal 10 11 12 I know i'm very late for the actual October 11th date but I cannot resist a 33 representation those numbers add up to 33. Right and unlike 5555 which you no longer accept

19:22 which in hindsight is a mistake. I feel pretty sure that you will accept my overdue contribution, and must admit that i missed the food and wine talk from earlier days." Well we all hear it. Yeah we fixed that today and all we do is grouse! Maybe Sunday after Adam's trip to San Francisco indeed but still finds your deconstructions of the media priceless. Thank you so much for all the work you put into the podcast for all of us slaves. She like a... this seems like me scrambled. No, I think you can read it very well She's like an... Hold on a second. I got something to drink. Are you going to do everything in the world? She is like an Atlas Shrugged Karma hit! There ya go And she says she does not want us to talk through the karma It seems that i feel they hit when you let it play unencumbered Okay, knock yourself out Alright be quiet then. Atlas shrugged by Ayn Rand You've Got Karma

20:23 Mmmmm! A clean shot of Atlas Shrugged Karma for you, Vicki. Thank you. Ronald Dreslinski Jr in Sterling Heights Michigan came out 5'19 and did I get a note from him? I don't think so...I didn't see your note Okay, well I will look if i find him now. I'll look him up during the meantime and then we'll read it at the beginning of the other section uh... If it's in there sorry Ronald but we will get to you Daniel Mack in Minneapolis Minnesota The usual long time boner first-time donor $458 hope you receive my donation today please continuing poking holes

21:01 in the net covering our gilded cages can I have a de-douching and the following parliamentary or the following parliamentary grumble little Italian girl shut up slave karma. Okay, hold on second i wasn't quite prepared for that so we need parliamentary mumble italian shut up girls okay hold on I can get uh...I can do this And he will also be the sole member of the 4-5-8 club. We always do encourage people to join the episode number of the club and here we go with your deduction. You've been deduced! Shut up, snake! Stunting's a scam! You've got karma... You know for a road show not bad no I don't think that combination works though

CHAPTER 11 / 51 Discussion

No Agenda Art and Formula Propagation

Adam and John encourage listeners to support the show through the website and to propagate the "No Agenda formula" to new listeners. They credit Daniel McDonald for the episode artwork and mention the No Agenda Art Generator. The hosts also acknowledge the "human resources" in the live chat room and the global audience following the show.

no agenda art· producers guild· donations· chat room· gitmo nation

21:55 Alright. But it was a good shot, I mean it's always interesting to hear these combinations. Anyway those are our three executive producers for show four five eight one remind people we do have another show coming up on Thursday and we would like some support go to Dvorak dot org slash NA channel Dvorak dot com slash NA The NoAgendaShow.com website has a button you can click on and also NoAgendaNation.com where you can buy all kinds of stuff while your at it, and it would be very helpful for us to get back on track here because this is a lot that has something to do with the mess back east I'm sure but

22:32 It's still pretty low. Well, it's okay because you can start blaming me on the fact that no one does 55s 55 anymore and then like you started at the dinner you can just be blaming me. Okay? So we also want to thank our artists for the previous episode Daniel McDonald now that we have Martin JJ has sidelined himself for a little bit uh... we're seeing as an excellent art come in from the alternative artists and we really appreciate all the work you do you can always check out all of this work at no agenda are generator dot com and of course these executive producer so six a good producer credits are real credit you couldn't even join the producers guild of america's we're seeing surging from my dallas texas to and unlike the phonies hollywood will be more than happy to vouch for it

23:20 Of course there's always one thing you all need to do and that is go out and propagate our formula. Our formula is this, we go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Oh yeah baby come on little girl. Chef's way! And I actually forgot to say In The Morning In the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water and feet in the air also a in in the morning to all those pleasant nights out there who end the new nights are coming up for all that support they give us. And to uh... all of our human resources in the chat room listening live at noagendachat.net, noagendastream.com as we do this show live every Sunday and Thursday morning 9am Gitmo Nation West time and of course so we had a lot of people

CHAPTER 12 / 51 Discussion

Fossil Fuel Appreciation Day and Daylight Savings Scam

The hosts label the end of Daylight Savings Time as "Fossil Fuel Appreciation Day," arguing that the time change actually increases energy consumption by 1-2%. They debunk the myth that the practice was created for farmers, instead suggesting it is an oil-based scheme to force more heating and lighting use. Historical references to the Uniform Time Act of 1966 are mentioned.

daylight savings time· fossil fuels· energy consumption· benjamin franklin· 1966

24:16 Come into the chat room this morning and go, hey man. Where's the show? Are they late again? I bet you it's Dvorak, he's late again! So these were people from other parts of the world where the time changes on a different schedule as we fell back an hour. And I would like to say welcome to Fossil Fuel Appreciation Day, because that's what this is! I figured it out... Oh, I didn't know! I would have celebrated by driving the electric car into a pole It's fossil fuel appreciation day as I have now researched once again, twice a year as to why we are being robbed of an hour. Because you know one way or the other it is that were losing it and don't magically get back this is not the give-back time just because you get sleep an hour longer. And from what I've read the scientific fact

25:10 is that because of the changing of the clocks we actually wind up consuming about one to two percent more energy than normal because of heating homes longer during dark hours and air conditioning during extended daylight hours so I think this entire daylight savings scam is just a fossil fuel appreciation movement. You know, I've got to get... You know, I have some old clips. And when I talk about old clips, I'm talking about from the 1930's They're so old they're on 78 RPM records these clips and actually some 78 did come with these clips on them which is a bunch of Hollywood celebrity types moaning and groaning about

26:01 Daylight savings time when they stood they first put it out I think was they've just been in and out of vogue in the United States for a long time official in the United States until 1966 which I was surprised by because you know, The story is Benjamin Franklin was a smart dude and like we're burning too many candles please I don't know, that's probably not even true. This is an oil-based thing to get people to use more energy. This is bull crap! It is just... I like the theory it says. The real rationale has had to do with farmers but that's okay and doesn't make any difference. Farmers can get up anytime they want. Yeah, farmers. Before we start going into the rare parts of Australia, you have to mention something since one of our new upcoming nights Vicky is in Memphis

CHAPTER 13 / 51 Discussion

Taylor Swift Financial Strategy and Used Goods Press Release

A press release from GoBankingRates regarding Taylor Swift's "money management wins" is analyzed and ridiculed. The hosts discuss her father's background at Merrill Lynch and criticize the advice listed, such as buying "used" antiques and starting a college fund despite her $165 million net worth. They mock the marketing strategy of selling albums at Walgreens and Papa John's.

taylor swift· merrill lynch· gobankingrates· antiques· college fund

26:43 And we did mention Taylor Swift earlier in the show. I have to discuss a press release i received Oh about Taylor's. Oh, okay well this is very exciting you know Taylor Swift of course... We have to remember Taylor Swift we talked about this two or three years ago when she was coming up the ranks John you actually discovered her as you discover Taylor Swift yeah when we discovered her her father was a major major player at Merrill Lynch hedge fund took her and the family moved to Nashville and uh... and bought her spot in history butterspotting history because his specialty was he was a money manager who specialize in indian individual management of this is super wealthy that like guys who run record companies and as a on nbc area okay

27:35 So he went to Nashville to get his daughter into the stream of things. Now she's worth apparently $165 billion, a million dollars. Anyway so this press release comes out from gobankingrates.com says for immediate release Taylor Swift loses at the CMAs but GoBankingRates identifies her five big money management wins. Wait a minute, wait a minute! Her dad is now pimping her out as a stock picker? Yeah, or something. So there's a Taylor Swift that goes on about oh poor Taylor she lost the third richest...she is now worth $165, third highest paid woman in Hollywood after Oprah and Britney. I believe that! Okay, I believe that too so Taylor Swift's five smartest money moves this is what the press release is about

28:27 So what do you think number one, the smartest money move you can make? What would be number one on your list. On my list that would be to invest in gold and silver Okay well then obviously you got nothing to do with it Number 1 I tell ya which is should have been able to guess Find a good money manager Oh, of course that is number one on the list. We need a top five drum roll for this. Okay well that's number one is go to your daddy and have him help you out. Exactly! So what's number two John? Number two is think strategically about money Oh, well does that mean like don't just blow it on hookers or? Well I think that's what it means but what they have is their little explanation makes no sense. It says Taylor made headlines when she shared her decision to sell her new album Red in some unconventional places including Papa John's and Walgreens. Oh yeah, Walgreens was unconventional. How is that thing strategically about marketing but not about money?!

29:27 idiots. Let's get the other, there is just three more. Alright that good. Number 3 is a real good one because it plays into societal thing that going on and I think its only valuable thing on here don't be afraid to buy used items Oh like that dress of hers? That was clearly from Goodwill The funny thing is that she kind of contradicts what used actually means when they have their explanatory sentence and let me read it to you. And then, I'm thinking well this is kind of stretching the concept of used Taylor Swift has no problem buying used items an according to her official website goes into a trance when I am in an antique store

30:13 This Louis Couture's desk, it's used but it fits my house so perfectly. I buy nothing but used antiques! It's the Used Goods Roadshow everybody brought to you by Taylor Swift. Unbelievable. That's awesome. Alright two more. Think about the financial future And then it's, she says she worries about everything and doesn't say too much. And then number five now you have to remember they already said she has a net worth currently of $165 million. She'll probably top off at about half a billion dollars that would be my guess the way she is going. By the time she marries the wrong guy Well, she's pretty hard to deal with it looks like for men but the dad is not gonna let her lose or anything. The dad is in control of this now But here's the kicker number five and are you and it's like are you kidding me start a college fund? She wants to start a college fund for her children what

31:08 Right she's by 165 in the bank right now, and she wants to start a college from why so she can be put 40 50 thousand aside Give me a break. She's she can buy at college Yeah, he could the Taylor Swift University That would be something well that's great now that's very depressing John thank you as well That's really great and we got two real news yeah So let me Let me start off by talking about Hurricane Sandy for a moment. And I'm not talking about New Jersey or New York, Manhattan or Staten Island although i do think just on the quick side note I found it without a doubt hilarious to see on Friday 800 people standing in line for an iPad mini while we had 700 people in a different line getting food and water that's to me was that was the epitome... Welcome to America!

CHAPTER 14 / 51 Discussion

Hurricane Sandy Impact on Haiti and Rising Rice Prices

While US media focused on New York and New Jersey, Hurricane Sandy caused over 50 deaths and massive crop destruction in Haiti. The hosts report that rice prices in southern Haiti skyrocketed from $2.50 to $4.00 per cup following the storm. They highlight the ongoing cholera outbreak and the dire conditions for those still living in tents since the 2010 earthquake.

hurricane sandy· haiti· cholera· rice prices· port-au-prince

32:02 That was the epitome of Americana to me. No, no I'm talking about you know what where 50 people died from Hurricane Sandy John? 50 people any idea? Where do you have no idea Well, they could have died in Staten Island waiting for Napolitano to show up. No no that was 20 people. They could have died in a food line or one of the subways or one of those underground places where all these bombs lived. Now it's even better. It's even better While the world's attention was fixed on Storm Sandy's impact on the US The hurricane force winds had already left a trail of destruction across the Caribbean

32:39 On Haiti, more than 50 people died as swollen rivers burst their banks and landslides damaged natural habitats in an estimated 20 thousand homes. The island's agriculture sector had already taken a battering from Hurricane Isaac which hit in August. After hurricane Sandy we've lost everything our plantations are livestock and some of us have lost our homes This rice that we have left, we are now trying to plant again. But we don't have much hope that it will ever be harvested because we've heard there are more storms ahead." Across the southern third of the island, the storm caused a widespread loss of crops and food prices have skyrocketed

33:22 One market seller says a cup of rice is selling for about four US dollars. It used to sell at $2.50. We can't get to another town to buy rice, we're crying out that prices must be reduced." Now before I play the remaining 17 seconds of this report so this is southern Haiti Port-au-Prince or Port-a-Prince as we would say and uh... so this of course is where we still have a couple hundred thousand people living in tents eating mud cakes they have cholera apparently a cup of rice four dollars for a cup of rice did you hear the kicker?

34:00 Up from 250. But now, but wait... It was already a rip-off for a cup of rice! But wait there's more! And by the way we are sending rice all over the place and then the Clintons collected 300 million dollars why don't we just bag rice and ship crap loads of it to Haiti? I ask you. The flooding has caused a spike in cholera with around 300 suspected cases. With many of the population still living in makeshift shacks following the earthquake in 2010, the Prime Minister's launched to new appeal for international aid Okay, so this obviously irritates me to no end because we had these billions and billions of dollars that were collected by our three... Texted. Yeah, texted by our three presidents President Obama he had President Bush and President Clinton and all they said was We just need cash I know a lot of people want us in blankets or water

CHAPTER 15 / 51 Discussion

Bill and Hillary Clinton Haiti Visit and South Korean Garment Factory

The Clintons visited Haiti one week before Hurricane Sandy to open a $300 million South Korean-run garment factory in the north. Adam Curry criticizes the project as a form of modern enslavement and plays clips of a seemingly "sloshed" Bill Clinton speaking at the event. The hosts argue that international aid money is being mismanaged while the southern part of the country starves.

bill clinton· hillary clinton· haiti· south korea· garment center

34:59 just send your kids and before john before you get into the uh... fantastic uh... so let's start started celebrity at telethon that we had which of course we predicted very accurately that this would happen happened even faster than i would have expected um... and what uh... but we did with the some of these actually people two years ago was collect money for these people in haiti in the south which is very important remember and of course now we have this big mission It was not just Hillary Clinton, but Hillary and Bill went to Haiti on October 23rd. One week! The timing is always everything with these Clintons... one week before Hurricane Sandy passed through and I have two clips just so you can hear the douchebaggery lying sacks of crap that these people are

35:48 And what they're doing in the North and making it look like everything is just fine. First here's Lucifer Hillary Rodham Clinton herself. You lying sack! that help put Haiti finally on the path to broad-based economic growth with a more vibrant private sector and less dependence on foreign assistance. Right, so let me just get this straight one week later we have people in the south already paying two dollars and fifty cents for cup of rice jacking it up to four they've got more cholera they're still living in shacks

36:34 And what are they doing here? They're opening up a brand new $300 million dollar garment center, and run by South Korea. Okay? The South Koreans have now enslaved the people of Haiti under the auspices of Bill and Hillary Clinton. And I want you to hear Bill Clinton, who is hammered! You have to see the video it's in the show notes 458 dot NA show notes dot com He is sloshed!! He's swaying from side to side, you can hear it in his speech. This industrial park in Haiti could provide progress for a nation grappling with instability The 300 million dollar project was opened on Monday at an event presided over by Bill and Hillary Clinton Long term its hoped the park will create 130 thousand jobs And much needed boost to a country still suffering from the 2010 earthquake

37:31 UN special envoy Bill Clinton said the project showed Haiti was no lost cause. What you see here today is an example of what works all over the world and a rebuke to those who say that progress is not possible or the government is always the problem, or something else... Did you hear that? Or something else! You know, furthermore you're ugly. And Hillary made me do this... something else The guy is hammered! His Haitian rum is good He doesn't even know what island he's on and meanwhile there's Martelli sweet Mickey Martelli the douchebag musician they put in as the president of the country he said that you gotta see this video

38:21 the body language you got hillary on the road to the right of him he's a left he could not be leaning in anymore less than his eyes are just like or looking at her like all men i hope she can't touch me with their penis and it seems frightening it is frightening to see what was going on these people are ripping off the country three hundred million dollars in south korean money to enslave the haitians and it's going so well in the north that douchebags and by the way where was this the singing for haiti Where was the singing for Haiti? It wasn't there because you don't care. But everyone feels great because you texted your $10 and they came back, and they fooled you again! You idiots! You texted another ten dollars to this stupid Red Cross!

CHAPTER 16 / 51 Discussion

NBC Hurricane Sandy Benefit Concert and Jersey Strong Meme

The hosts critique the NBC benefit concert for Hurricane Sandy victims, featuring Bruce Springsteen and Jon Stewart. They mock the "Jersey Strong" slogan as a derivative of Lance Armstrong's "LiveStrong" campaign. Adam expresses skepticism about the Red Cross's fundraising tactics and the "jammed lines" reported during the telethon.

nbc· bruce springsteen· jon stewart· red cross· jersey strong

39:04 You know the Red Cross is funny because they always get grilled about where this money went and they always say well go you know yeah you text $10 to the red cross it just goes into the general fund. It doesn't go to Hurricane Haiti, it's to Sandy. Hurricane Sandy I mean it's just unbelievable see we had That crazy concert again, I don't know they didn't overdo it. They just kind of put it on NBC and then they wrapped around the regular programming but it finished... It was all NBC guys and it finished with this crazy pitch at the end at the very end to the concert these guys came out in John Stewart's up there

39:51 Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band to all the talented artists who joined us tonight, we thank you from the bottom of our heart. We have been jamming the lines You've done such a good job that... Jamming the lines? That's-that's a reference to jamming the songs on the stage Folks at The Red Cross if you couldn't get through they're gonna be at it all night So keep calling keep trying on the web all night Jersey Strong man just Just keep your heart in it. We're coming back, New York Jersey all the affected areas you guys have been very generous we really appreciate it good night everybody hey John John by the way by the way with Jersey strong man

40:27 Yeah, jersey strong dude. Dude! So at the end when Stewart said that... The last guy I left on the stage there was L Roker who tried to get it and you hear the very end he's trying to say something they cut him off. Well of course Roker is an idiot. He's a douchebag That is actually just about the only thing I saw of the show live because ummm Of our dinner I think You must have taped it cause I didn't have a tape here And I heard even Mickey was like, what the hell is that Jersey Strong? What does that mean? Is that a Lance Armstrong reference like Live Strong Jersey Strong. Yeah, I don't know It was lame and all of this of course happened on the heels of the borough president of Staten Island saying this live on television. They put together pots of soup and they were distributing to people down there whose homes were just destroyed

CHAPTER 17 / 51 Discussion

Red Cross Absence in Staten Island and Political Theater

Staten Island officials and residents criticized the American Red Cross for being absent during the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Sandy. The hosts discuss the "forgotten borough" status of Staten Island and mock visits from politicians like Chuck Schumer and Janet Napolitano. They also ridicule Anderson Cooper's claim of having deep family roots in the borough.

staten island· red cross· chuck schumer· janet napolitano· anderson cooper

41:24 and the American Red Cross was nowhere to be found. Exactly, the American cross nowhere to be found. All these people making these big salaries should be out there on the front line and I am disappointed And my advice for the people of Staten Island is do not donate to the American Red Cross Let them get their money elsewhere because we have hundreds of people, hundreds and hundreds of people in shelters throughout Staten Island. So the guy literally says hey they got nice offices they got nice salaries but they're not here and by the way if you I lived in Jersey for many many years 15 years and I built businesses in Manhattan and you know what no one ever thinks about Staten Island that's why they forgot because they just forgot thats what happens! We think about Staten island as a garbage dump

42:16 as a wasteland and of course it's there's real people living there but this is the actual culture of Manhattan and you saw it coming out no one will admit I'll say it. People don't think of Staten Island when you say where are from? Staten Island like oh really? Because it has forgotten borough yeah, its literally a dump that was built on a landfill It IS a landfill! And at Forgotten Borough thats exactly what happened No one cares Well, they cared enough that Schumer showed up and gave a spiel and he got chewed out by a bunch of old ladies. And then Napolitano showed up! That was after this guy is when Napolitano shows up there's lots of coverage... Anderson Pooper's on the island all of a sudden who by the way I don't have the clip unfortunately didn't have time He said my family goes back generations to Staten Island Really? Anderson Vanderbilt Pooper are you kidding me

CHAPTER 18 / 51 Discussion

National Guard Gas Station Security and Looting Reports

Reports from residents in New Jersey suggest that the National Guard is using M16s to guard gas stations, a detail largely omitted from mainstream news coverage. Adam Curry shares anecdotes about widespread looting along the Jersey Shore that is being ignored in favor of patriotic human-interest stories. The segment highlights the disparity between televised reports and the reality on the ground.

national guard· gasoline rationing· looting· jersey shore· m16

43:12 Really? He said that?! Yes, I wish he had a clip of it. What he has some cousin that lives there? Who knows...who knows maybe he was cottaging. I don't know what he was doing Meanwhile in Manhattan Here's an interesting little tidbit that is not covered in the news Try to play the free gasoline clip Alrighty Across the river in New York City, drivers were no longer lining up at stations. Instead they were waiting in equally long queues at National Guard armories They'd been drawn there by the offer of free government-provided petrol Oh yeah this... what could possibly go wrong? Free Petrol! So I have friends down by exit 100 Tom's River I think we discussed it Rumson

44:01 But mainly Tom's River, which is the poor side of Exit 100. And Jack Ponte, guy who has been in the music business for a long time... He is very cranky, just a cranky dude and he was able to get internet service. He had no electricity at his house for most of the week and now he has got dogs or whatever and you know it's always complaining And he said, Adam they are not reporting this thing correctly on the news. We have National Guard with M16s guarding the gas stations and all you see on CNN is the same report The reporter going like well we're getting in line now let's clock the time okay let's see how long oh it's 20 minutes later Let's see if we're gonna get some gasoline

44:49 and then you wait, and then we've been here for an hour-and-a-half I hope we can still get some gasoline but they're not showing the National Guard with the M16s out there. They're not showing the looting that is going on real looting! There is looting all up and down the Jersey Shore this is not being reported instead we get these I reported reports with a nice toot-a-loo piano music and i guess it's meant to make you feel patriotic and good or something about the resilience of the American people? Jersey Strong! Yeah, Jersey Strong man. In fact uh...the president on his uh... let me get here for second where is that the president did his weekly youtube address and um... see

CHAPTER 19 / 51 Discussion

President Obama FEMA Response and Heroism Narratives

President Obama's weekly address regarding Hurricane Sandy is analyzed, specifically his instruction for citizens to call FEMA rather than help neighbors directly. The hosts critique the "produced" stories of heroism, such as the evacuation of newborns at NYU and Coast Guard rescues. They argue that these narratives mask the fact that many elderly residents in Manhattan remained without food or assistance for days.

barack obama· fema· red cross· nyu medical center· coast guard

45:35 I thought i recorded that. Oh yeah here he is uh so he's in his flight jacket once again because this of course what we do as Americans, We dress our president up in some kind of militaristic garb to make him look like they're actually doing something And so it's kind of this interesting little tidbit that he throws out and then he goes into his whole America hell yeah routine. If you've been directly impacted by the storm and need temporary assistance getting back on your feet, You can call 1-800-621 FEMA or apply at disasterassistance.gov if you know folks who are still without power

46:18 Please spread the word and let them know. So this is what I don't get did he just say if you know folks without power He didn't say go over there help him out give him a sandwich get him some dry ice Bring them into your house No, we said give him the phone number so they can get assistance You can call that number all you want It's not gonna turn your lights back on that you know what? I mean John that made no sense to me He's not a community guy. He is a community organizer, but he is not a real community guy. Well here... He doesn't think in those terms. Well here is his attempt at building community. And if you don't live in an infected area and want to help supporting the Red Cross is the best and fastest way. Just so you know supporting the red cross is the best and fastest way that's the best and fastest way

47:10 And can I ask you a question? Why do i see reports in San Francisco all morning about people giving blood to the Red Cross. I haven't heard that there was a need for blood There is no need for blood But this what it is, the whole morning on ABC and NBC It's not like something blew up No they're saying Oh They are not people being hospitalized left and right needing blood I think the red cross is in the secondary blood market They are selling it to Russia! I don't know why...why did they..Why are they asking for blood Weird, huh? Well that you mention it. I didn't think about that but you're absolutely correct and it makes sense yeah I mean yes to go out you know there may be they always use blood but why more blood on a lot of the blue well here's the rest of the president's moment this week we've been humbled by nature's destructive power no no it wasn't nature this was man-made global warming you should have missed opportunity Mr. President but we've been inspired as well

48:12 For when the storm was darkest, the heroism of our fellow citizens shone brightest. Here it comes... The nurses and doctors at NYU Medical Center who evacuated fragile newborns carrying some down several flights of stairs The firefighters in Queens who battled an inferno from flooded streets and rescued people from an apartment building by boat The Coast Guard crews from North Carolina who saved a sinking ship in stormy seas. And the rescue swimmer who, when he reached those in need said I'm Dan and I hear you guys need a ride. Did you see this story? Because I want to see that package! I didn't see that package. No, neither did I! Obviously I missed a really good produced package. Hey, I'm Dan. You need a ride? Is that not the movie ending to this? Is that not the way we want to believe reality is? That we've got Bruce Willis swimming out to some people drowning and says

49:06 I'm Dan, i hear your people need a ride. Yippee-ki-yay! I mean this is disgusting there are still people in Manhattan who have not eaten for days they're like 80 years old or 90 years old on the 18th floor and no one's come to look for them no one No Red Cross, no FEMA That's who we are We're Americans When times are tough were tougher we put others first we go that extra mile We open our hearts and our homes to one another as one American family. We recover, we rebuild, we come back stronger and together we will do that once more. Yeah! Thanks. Alright God bless you and god bless America. Man Jersey Strong

CHAPTER 20 / 51 Discussion

Gasoline Rationing and 1970s Energy Crisis Fractals

The implementation of odd-even gasoline rationing in New Jersey is compared to the energy crisis of the 1970s. Adam Curry recalls "auto-free Sundays" in the Netherlands as a similar historical measure. The hosts suggest that the current infrastructure failures and government responses are repeating cycles from forty years ago.

gasoline rationing· new jersey· energy crisis· odd-even days· netherlands

49:53 Jersey Strong, Mr. President Now I do love Americans who do jump in and help each other help the neighbors that's the only thing that is keeping people alive Yes of course eventually you'll get some kind of something from the federal government but again people are being taught right here in this video if you've got a problem call 1-800-861 FEMA If you know someone else who has a problem don't go help them call 1-800-621 FEMA That's not how you do it. Hi, I'm Dan here you need a ride anyway well let's do you thought my thing about Taylor Swift it was depressing oh It's just yeah if you play the clip rationing like 1970 I want to mention that everything you're gonna hear in this clip is a fractal of exactly the same but the same period in time

50:53 40 years ago, which is the cycle that exists. And this is the fractal. We had the same thing only it was under different circumstances." As he turned back more than a hundred cars and trucks snaked along at a snail's pace. "...a little over three hours there but hopefully in like another hour we'll take to get some company..." In this part of the state only one in four stations had both the needed power and fuel supply to handle the demand. And as midday approached a new complication... rationing! The governor of New Jersey has just announced that in less than three hours motorists will only be able to get gas if the last number of their license tag is even numbered and it's an even-numbered day of the month. Well, we have an even number but this is an odd number day so were in a race against time to get to the pump We did make it before the deadline otherwise it would be another day until our next chance to fill up.

51:48 Yeah, I remember the 70s. And you remember even number day? Odd number day? No, because in the Netherlands we had auto-free Sundays! That means you couldn't drive on Sunday? No driving anywhere in the entire country. Auto free Sunday. Wow... Oh yeah, auto free. So just a whole day you were not allowed to drive Well, they should throw that in the pot. That's a good idea! As a Red Book prediction? By the way if you have vanity plates in New Jersey you are seen as an odd man out and you are only allowed to go on odd number days so yeah no there's it's going to be until I think they're saying November 10th or 11th until some people's electricity is restored And this was such a bogus report

CHAPTER 21 / 51 Discussion

Fake Dumpster Diving News and Media Manipulation

Adam Curry critiques an NBC news report showing people "dumpster diving" for food in Manhattan, labeling it as staged or "fake" news designed to provide a false sense of balance. He argues that the media is suppressing real stories of looting and starvation while promoting the Red Cross. The hosts express frustration with the "text $10" culture of slacktivism.

nbc news· dumpster diving· manhattan· media bias· red cross

52:46 that I saw on NBC. It was great because we flew JetBlue. Oh, by the way once again JetBlue coach class tickets priority line hang now miss Mickey so JetBlue has live television and so I'm watching these NBC reports, and was able to get this one which if you look at the report i think it was totally bogus made up but this was supposed to show you the desperation in Manhattan. Desperate? It has gotten here in this neighborhood we're here outside the Key Foods Avenue A and East 4th Street dumpster diving and what they're going after here is the food that was inside these key foods. We presume it all spoiled and was dumped out here for garbage, but instead those here are some that I've spoken with so hungry they literally pried open this dumpster you see that door open right now and they are literally picking through for whatever they can take home with themselves we have seen everybody hear from the elderly to families with children literally up on top of

53:49 of this looking for whatever it is that they could take home with themselves now you see when you hear the support using these people with a diving board or do we have been diving in the dumpster and there rather just rummaging through it now there's seven people and they like would have liked sticks in their poking at this thing like me man who has anything to make a light on his my kitchen tongs uh... now i don't think i'll take that this was not active desperation this was a lame attempt to try and give some balance to what is really going on. Your news is fooling you people, and whether the memo went out... The news is the worst. And whether the memo went out and said that we can't have people actually knowing about the looting and about this starvation and old people dying in high floor apartments let's just balance it out a little bit and give them a little of this fake dumpster diving

54:39 It really, it's disgusting me. It really made me angry and of course you know all we do is text $10 to the stupid Jersey Strong thing The Red Cross has nice salaries they don't go to the right places They get all kinds of shills to come in and say yeah were doing a great job You're not! Get off your ass and help people Don't just text ten dollars This is demise of this country Well, I'm not gonna argue the point. Yeah change your Twitter icon this texting $10 just and you know make it now I feel good. I did my part. I'm done now Where's mine? I've had many where's my iPad mini? That's literally what I was gonna bring lower the prices that's what we're gonna lower the price of the iPad Mini I'm sick and tired of that What am I hearing

CHAPTER 22 / 51 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Croatia Visit and Natural Gas Pipeline Wars

Hillary Clinton's visit to Croatia is linked to the competition between the Russian South Stream pipeline and the Western-backed Nabucco pipeline. The hosts explain that Russia bypassed Croatia in favor of Hungary for the South Stream route due to political stalling. Clinton is accused of "cock-blocking" Russian energy interests by promoting Liquid Natural Gas (LNG) terminals in the Adriatic.

hillary clinton· croatia· gazprom· nabucco pipeline· south stream

55:33 Geez Louise, it's so noisy here in San Francisco. You got sirens going by? Nah! Someone is like... they're working on the road on a Sunday I don't know what they are doing. Oh yeah well that way they get paid overtime and have to gouge at the public for even more money Hey we were talking you brought up on Thursdays show that Lucifer Clinton was in Croatia? Belgrade where was she again Yes, she's in Croatia. And we got a good note from one of our producers Exactly Ivan and you have it there right? Let me read some of that I got the note and then I also have a couple things for us to look at Including a news article and a map John. I've got a map for ya so yeah Ivan producer Ivan says well Hillary visited Croatia November 2nd in the November 3rd TV News

56:27 Ivan says it was announced that the Russians are signing up with Hungary instead of Croatia for the South Stream project. Turns out that the cost is greater with the Hungarians but the Russians couldn't withstand Croatians stalling anymore and indeed I find in a news report, Croatia regrets loss of South Stream pipeline route now this is of course a natural gas pipeline and john right now i'd like you to go to south stream dot curry dot com and now we have a lot of meat and i was right immediately we understand why hillary clinton that was there with uh... the the note the notion monster uh... baroness van aschen

57:08 from the European Union, southstream.curry.com and you will see here a map of two pipeline routes one is the South Stream which is a Gazprom or GSS as they're now known the Gazprom South Stream Pipeline route which comes from Russia piping gas into... why's my uh... Is it opening for you? Yeah I'm looking at it Oh its probably loaded overloaded server No, no. It should if you guys actually in some WordPress site no no of and I understand but it's a it's a forward South stream curry dot again is fine. Okay? I got it So you see the blue line is from Russia and Kazakhstan going through Bulgaria through Sofia going through Serbia Belgrade going to Hungary a hungry a hungry

57:59 Slovenia and then through Italy into Europe. And then we have the competing line, the Nabucco Line which is the competitor to the Russians which of course is what Lucifer Clinton is shilling for coming from Georgia Azerbaijan Iraq right going through Turkey and then going through Bulgaria and then routing through Romania Budapest and into Austria into Europe. So this, as we... it was so obvious! This is all about the competing pipelines and they just wanted to cock-block the Russians. Right but the Hillary pipeline's not the... I mean he wrote us a note because obviously the argument was if you were going.. if you look at Belgrade that's where the pipeline should cut across Croatia from there into Slovenia instead of going all the way around Hungary

58:57 But Croatia seems to be left out of all this and exactly what does Hillary... She may have mentioned according to the note that she wants, again according to her speech, that she wants Croatia start thinking about LNG liquid natural gas. Yes. terminals on the ocean, there's the Adriatic Sea. They have a whole huge coastline that the croats do and I don't see where it has anything to do with these two things except for that one... No, no. She wants spot! The first thing is cock-blocking the Russians and then rerouting Nabucco any way that is most efficient to get into Europe which is why the no chin monster from Europe is there and why they're dangling European membership over these countries It's like just participate in our pipeline no matter what they want to do doesn't really matter as long as they get rid of the Gazprom line

CHAPTER 23 / 51 Discussion

Telegraph Industry History and Modern Infrastructure Sabotage

John C. Dvorak draws a historical parallel between modern pipeline competition and the "telegraph wars" of the 1860s. He describes how companies like Western Union would send goons to cut down competitors' poles. This historical context is used to emphasize the importance of independent communication methods like ham radio in the face of corporate sabotage.

telegraph· western union· civil war· infrastructure· ham radio

59:59 Well, it's interesting that these two pipelines are competing with each other. Well because they're from two different organizations! Yeah I mean this is reminding me of the early days of The Telegraph Oh you remember these days Yes, I do as a matter of fact. In the 1860s just during the Civil War there were all these different... There were probably 20 or 30 major telegraph companies and over the long haul of not know decade or so i think it did the telegraph wars maybe ended in the eighteen seventies uh... all during that period of all the telegraph companies western union which is we ended up being the one we still know um was notorious

1:00:43 for sending out goons to cut down other people's competitors telegraph poles. So they'd find somebody lining a bunch of poles up and they send their goons out, and they chop the poles down! And these other guys are trying to chop down Western Union poles and they get beat up... It was just that it was a joke but this seems like the same kind of fractal This is exactly why we need more ham radio operators because we are going to run into this with internet and everything. And please join my echo link reflector 775-753. I gotta keep plugging that. Get that plug in there! So anyway, Gazprom another little just a little bit of nice pipeline news there they're launching two satellites at the end of this year

CHAPTER 24 / 51 Discussion

Madeleine Albright Confrontation and Serbian War Criminal Accusations

During a book signing in Prague, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was confronted by Serbian activists calling her a war criminal for her role in the 1990s bombings. Audio from the event captures Albright shouting "disgusting Serbs, get out!" at the protesters. The hosts discuss the long-standing animosity toward the Clinton administration's foreign policy in the Balkan region.

madeleine albright· prague· serbia· war crimes· book signing

1:01:30 And I'm thinking, what does Gazprom have to do with satellites? Is that to watch their pipelines? That's the only thing I could come up with. I just wanted some confirmation. Anyway so i'm sure Mr Oil will be able to fill me in on more of this Nabucco versus South Stream Although I don't know if he's still in the business. He seems to be doing like a travel company. There is still some missing information from why they took the route from Belgrade through Hungary as opposed to... The Russians, well you know part of it is that and that's the Russian pipeline

1:02:11 I have to say, I've been to Croatia a couple times because I write for a magazine there and hang out with some elites of the area. Oh nice! Editors. Nice I'll tell you, bring up to any Croatian, you bring up the Russians and especially Putin. And they go ballistic! They think he's a criminal...they go on and on and on....and they just...the Croatians actually, I think hate the Russians. Well there is a lot of hate in the region for sure and uh... madeline albright because of course all this goes back to the clinton's originally when they were bombing the crap out of everything there which of course it is i don't believe that any of these are the serbs hate these in the crow at some day that he deserves the croats do you need each other but enough for us to go bombing one or the other i don't know the backstory on a bombing thingy there was very sketchy

1:03:12 Madeline Albright was in her birth town, she was in Prague and she was there for a book signing. Apparently she's not well loved by the Serbs and I have a feeling this has to do with her work... The bombings! With the Clintons exactly yeah sure so a whole bunch of serbs come in and they start kind of like yelling at her like you're war criminal now Madeline Albright is about three foot nine And she's sitting behind the desk in one of these typical book signings. But she is, I'm going to play the audio for you it may not be that

1:03:50 uh... legible for you john through the mumble hopefully people listen to the podcast over here so you'll hear start yelling you know stop stop stopping at a certain point she says you disgusting serbs literally does yeah now this is big news well i missed it and was listening to the camera around her face Get out! You hear her? Get out! She's yelling at these big dudes. Yeah, I'm listening.

1:04:44 here comes stand by did you hear it Oh yeah. You disgusting Serbs, get out! So uh... no agenda there huh? That's a good one. Yeah, yeah now this is my friend no clip of the day Oh Wow okay well I mean even even when I'm on the road I apparently still I still have the juice to have what it takes I do Disgusting sir you're gonna start singing clip of the day. I'm not gonna give it at work anymore. I won't I won't do it I'm sorry. It won't do it

CHAPTER 25 / 51 Discussion

Vladimir Putin Health Rumors and Siberian Crane Stunt

Speculation regarding Vladimir Putin's health intensified after he appeared to limp during the Asia-Pacific conference in Vladivostok. While the Kremlin attributed his absence to a minor back strain from a hang-gliding stunt with Siberian cranes, rumors suggest a more serious injury. The hosts analyze the importance of the "alpha male" image to Putin's political reputation.

vladimir putin· moscow· siberian cranes· back injury· al jazeera

1:05:39 Wow, good one. Yeah so meanwhile since we're talking about this sort of thing did you I think the most suppressed news story is about Putin About his back. He bought his back my ass He got it. They think the smart money thinks that he when he went out to that driving around with those cranes That little lighter than air bullshit aircraft crashed Then he crossed me ultra light and he's a dingy all dinghy here play Putin story Our Russian president Vladimir Putin prides himself on his alpha male image But recently, he's almost disappeared from public view Rory challenge reports from Moscow where Putin's health is the talk of the town

1:06:20 Donning his aviator goggles recently, Russia's presidents took to the sky. The September flight with the Siberian cranes of the Yamal Peninsula was a textbook Vladimir Putin publicity stunt but is it possible he came down with a bit of a bump? A few days later at the Asia-Pacific conference in Vladivostok, some observers said he was moving with a limp. And gossip hungry Russians have been noticing a few suspicious changes to their leader's behavior Normally these roads would be closed down at least twice a day as Putin's motorcade brings him either to or from the Kremlin but recently there has hardly been any sign of him As his regular forays into Russia wilderness prove

1:07:05 Vladimir Putin is a sporty man. His spokesman explained that anyone who is this athletic picks up the odd injury every now and again he's had them before, the spokesman said and he just got a little back strain now nothing serious and nothing to do with flying with the cranes I don't know if I buy this I'm telling you they showed some shots of him He looks like a guy who just had a concussion hmm... he's got a dingy look He's just kind of like, he doesn't look like the normally Putin has got this snide kind of knowledgeable quality about him. Yeah And it just didn't look right but play the second half of this clip and there is another couple of observations But since his trip to Vladivostok a number of official trips have been postponed or cancelled Russians are wondering whether there is something more seriously wrong with him

1:07:59 Putin indeed is secretive in that his private life is fully closed from the people. Whenever we see him with his wife, whenever you see him with his children, his family's totally out of it. Putin draws inspiration from the time when he was beginning his career as a KGB officer in the USSR He may be a tough guy, but Vladimir Putin is 60 and his strength can't last forever. This alpha male persona is so important to his reputation though that information of any infirmity or weakness will be tightly managed. Rory Challens, Al Jazeera Moscow.

CHAPTER 26 / 51 Discussion

Putin Assassination Attempt Rumors and Russian Mob Influence

The hosts discuss a tip from a Russian source claiming that Putin's back pain is a cover-up for an assassination attempt involving a bomb blast on a road near Vladivostok. They explore theories ranging from drug addiction to being under the control of the Russian mob or "MK-Ultra" style subdual. The conversation notes the extreme secrecy surrounding the private lives of Russian leaders.

vladimir putin· assassination attempt· vladivostok· russian mob· mk-ultra

1:08:45 right yeah now the reason why I don't see him with his wife and i believe in the guy is clearly gay amin said so whatever's going on there in this palace he's in these by curious at least bisexual for sure but probably just really gay and I think he's probably hooked on something he's a he's he's whacked out of it and then you can you know they're trying to get him Either they're trying to get him back or they're not. They are just trying to keep him drugged and subdued, MK-Ultra'd whatever but this is not new for Russian presidents. No it's true now I still have the opinion that there was something bad happened or he hurt his head but let's assume that that's not the case and something more along the lines of being drugged or something like that is in play

1:09:34 Kind of confirms another curious thing I saw on all these clips. The close-up shots of him in that ultralight aircraft he also has kind of a dingy, he does not look... He looks distant. I agree. He looks as though he's not a happy camper to say the least in that stupid plane So here is the thing that i have a problem with or let me just say there is something wrong because his PR efforts are so well orchestrated and we have a lot of friends at the show and supporters although I don't think we get a lot of actual donations from Russia

1:10:13 You remember when he did that fishing expedition with Medvedev and they're sitting on the pier there, and they're reeling them in one after another? Now the story I heard is it is so tightly controlled these types of PR things that he does. That he had divers So divers in wetsuits, in that pond putting fish on the hook. And people figured out this was happening because they put a fish on the hook that doesn't naturally swim in that water and thats how deadfish... Well you know that little mechanical tail. You caught a deadfish Putin! You're unbelievable! But they are not even doing that so maybe just maybe this guy has been under someone's control for quite awhile

1:11:00 And we're now just starting to notice it. But I don't think he's covering up, there is something seriously wrong but more of the addictive kind or that someone has placed him under a voodoo spell or something. Well it could be the Russian mob having something to do with this. For one thing there are a lot of these ultra billionaires that came out of the collapse of the Soviet Union all by corruption and they're a fairly powerful group as a whole, and they're worried about Putin I think threw a couple of their boys in the slammer for no real good reason without a trial kind of. Oh hold on a second John this just in we have breaking news from our Russian friends just in

CHAPTER 27 / 51 Discussion

Putin PR Strategy and Red Book Predictions

John C. Dvorak makes a "Red Book prediction" that Putin will soon perform a highly visible, manly stunt to prove his physical fitness, such as a parachute jump or big-game hunting. They discuss how his previous PR stunts, like fishing, were allegedly staged with divers. The hosts conclude that something is definitely wrong with the Russian leader despite official denials.

vladimir putin· pr· red book prediction· hunting· back brace

1:11:50 Putin's back pain apparently is a cover-up. There was an assassination attempt on his way back from the summit, they destroyed an entire section of the road in the bomb blast and that's how he hurt his back. This just in from our trusted Russian sources Well, that would make sense. Would wouldn't it? Because he's not coming out with something. He is going to be driving around in an armored car possibly a... you know the Italians are the ones who did mob. Italian mob is the one who invented this idea of taking part of the roadway because you have construction crew that's mob owned and take a huge swath of the roadway and plant high explosives throughout thing for about I don't know probably sixteenth of a mile

1:12:33 and then when the car is going across, or the whole motorcade in this case was a judge that they had to kill in Italy. Or maybe it was Sicily which is Italy but I think it's the mainland. Maybe it was Italy! They blew up this thing and made like a bomb hole huge and blew the car into the air into smithereens right? And its possible that sort of thing could have happened to Putin well that's the bad news literally just came in as we're doing a show live from one of our trusted russian sources uh... that there were on his way back from the summit i don't know which some it would not have been do you think with some at home is and let me say i've been putin summit prudence summit you know i love the book of last thing when he was it wasn't an invasion of oslo

1:13:19 it must be vladivostok oh here will top top hit here kremlin denies injury reportedly from bird stunt has grounded putin okay prudence and as my thesis yes obama the world your thesis is the same as a bc news so uh... i think all that you know that our guys probably better i think i think we have better info than a b c news let me see obama stays away from putting some of those prudent summons Was that the Asia Pacific Summit? That was the one in Vladivostok. You're right, you're right! So on the way back... and Vladivostok of course it would make sense because he's probably

1:14:03 You know, it's a home game. Not liked in Vladivostok! Not liked there at all and they tried to blow him up now I that sounds like a reasonable but he's gotta do something heat so Red Book prediction He's gonna come out and he said do these go like I do a parachute jump or What else could he do John? Could he? realize gallivanting around shirtless with his It's gotta be something you can do with a back brace on. So what could it be? I think he should do something that is not physical on the body but maybe kill something big, can he go shoot something? Or he could go hunting an African and drop an elephant Yeah, something big He's got to do like a real manly-man thing

1:14:55 No, we'll have to keep our eye on it. You know what's coming. Whatever the case is something is up at this point. Well I think even the little bit of information we have is probably better than you're getting from ABC News if they've discussed that all If they had any time in between... Well I didn't think it was being discussed by any mainstream guys when I first pulled this clip from Al Jazeera Yeah well its not really because ABC has now, I saw this morning, they have purchased The package from CNN, the iReporter package with the piano music? Oh, it's so disgusting. It makes me want to throw up Well I have a dinner that story isn't obscure enough I Have one other one that I think is not being covered at all and when I heard it because you know we're talking about wine and food again Mm-hmm. I said well that's interesting That's against the way every what I didn't know any of this play the saffron scam

CHAPTER 28 / 51 Discussion

Afghanistan Saffron Price Collapse and Iranian Market Control

Saffron farmers in Afghanistan's Herat province are facing a price collapse, with kilos dropping from $5,000 to $1,000. The hosts report that much of the Afghan crop is smuggled into Iran and repackaged as Iranian saffron. They discuss the culinary uses of the spice and the Afghan government's failure to market their high-quality product independently of the opium trade.

saffron· afghanistan· iran· pashtun zargun· spice trade

1:15:55 The saffron is a key part of Afghanistan's local economy, but recently prices have been falling. Bernard Smith reports from Pashtun Zargun in Herat province where farmers are struggling It is the most expensive spice in the world Saffron has been used for thousands of years in cooking and traditional medicine But the saffron farmers of Pashtun Zagan have seen the price of their valuable crop collapse. Farmers are being crippled by the fall in saffron prices We used to sell a kilo for $5,000 but now we only get 1,000. Many farmers say they'll go back to growing poppy." Much like the opium-producing poppy, the saffron producing crocus thrives in this arid land. It's 20 years since the crocus was introduced here allowing farmers to turn away from the drugs trade. Most of the saffron goes to Iran and is repackaged as an Iranian product

1:16:55 Afghan farmers say a glut of the spice in Iran has hit prices. They also blame the Afghan government for not providing any marketing support to promote their high quality saffron. These Iranians have been selling us a bill of goods about the saffron being their product. I'm telling you, they've stolen it! I went to the gourmet food shows and oh yes well Iran has got all the saffron we're the real producers of the best saffron stuff from Spain and Italy's bull crap And there is just getting it from the Afghanistanis who are growing by the bushel load? By the kilo load

1:17:37 Good price by the way, 5,000 a kilo. If you get it for 1,000 which is 150 old price I guarantee if i go to the Iranian store that's down in the street here they will not have any cheaper prices there just there's a gouge going on this is a gouge and do you use this spice yourself John? All the time. What, because I've never used this and i'm thinking maybe I should it seems to be a very powerful thing to use in your cooking? Well its using a couple basic dishes that you might want to play with one is any sort of fish stew would benefit from saffron to an extreme but generally speaking what is used for by the Iranians and I cook rice in that style it's used in rice, rice cooking you color the rice with it and flavor the rice with it. It's absolutely fantastic as one of them most tastiest things you'll ever eat. Saffron Rice! Saffron it is You know speaking of spices from foreign lands

CHAPTER 29 / 51 Discussion

Syria Ambassador Death and Middle East Political Watchdogs

Adam Curry shares an anecdote from a contact regarding the death of the US Ambassador in Libya, claiming the situation was ordered from the United States and went wrong when the official suffocated. The hosts discuss how people in the Middle East are much more politically engaged and informed about tribal dynamics than the average American.

syria· tunisia· benghazi· middle east· politics

1:18:39 We were picked up at the airport by our friend Tony the Terrorist who used to drive me whenever I'd come in from Los Angeles when I frequented the Bay Area more often. Tony of course is from Lebanon but he's in one of these families that has, you know they're rich and London and all over the place and he's kind of well not a kind if he is the outcast black sheep he's driving a 2002 Town car around San Francisco doing some translation work on the side and he probably is a real terrorist He has links to al-qaeda and I'm like, you know Tony what is going on with Yemen? You got to explain why could we talk about everything Oh by the way, he totally confirmed the hostage situation in Syria completely confirmed it. He said his brother was

1:19:30 uh... overheard a conversation in tunisia where they were are yelling at and some guy on the phone because uh... not only had uh... the ambassador suffocated in the fire which wasn't supposed to happen but there was one of the three other guys with a high level or higher level official who was not supposed to be killed and the whole thing was ordered from united states so that's confirmed and i believe tony the terrorist Second, Yemen. I like the idea that you accept that as confirmation... From this guy? Yeah! But I don't accept it is confirmation but i do accept the thesis and we developed a thesis right away yeah It's okay I mean but he was even like who gave everyone knows this what he was saying Oh well now can see them everybody Middle East people realize

1:20:22 Like, we talk in the United States you go to people especially just a classic like we talk about Britney Spears or Honey Boo Boo. You're the one I mentioned Honey Boo Boo by the way In the Middle East all they talk about is politics and they are all watchdogs of their political system We don't even care in this country at all except for our show Yeah, and they all know about what's going on. And they know all the players and it's tribes and a lot of it is word-of-mouth... But I think that you know..I'm just believing this so I'm down with this as confirmation If its good enough for Tony the Terrorist then it's good enough for me

CHAPTER 30 / 51 Discussion

Yemen Khat Trade and Drone Strike Rationale

A new theory is proposed suggesting that US drone strikes in Yemen are related to controlling the "khat" (Qat) drug trade rather than just counter-terrorism. Khat is a mild stimulant leaf chewed extensively in the region. Adam Curry's source claims the trade is massive in San Francisco and that the US is targeting specific tribes to monopolize or disrupt the drug routes.

khat· yemen· drone strikes· stimulants· drug trade

1:21:01 So then I move on. Remember, I only have a short trip from SFO to downtown San Francisco it's only about 25-30 minutes so i gotta grill the guy and Mickey is just laughing she loves it and like okay what about Yemen he says Adam I tell you as people in South Yemen he says they're great people. He says that the people of North Yemen are the worst people in the world if he had a nuclear bomb he would go and blow them all up this is Tony the terrorist I'm like, well what? Well. I don't understand you know and so he's going these tribes and how they're just almost you know They they're backstabbers their liars You can't trust them as if what do they do up there why are we droning them And then he said oh it's because of the scat trade

1:21:49 You know the that's that stuff that uh... people chew? Cat! Uh, cat. I'm sorry scat. Scat is shit. The cat trade. I'm thinking what trade? What kind of sick trade is this?! I'm sorry um uh I'm ill. The cat trade. That was- hold on a second Where am I So it's the cat trade. He says they export so much of that stuff to United States, particularly in San Francisco he says people are high on it day and night and what is happening this is just another poppy trade thats why we're droning these creeps

1:22:33 We're taking over their drug business. This is a drug business no one ever talks about I guess talked about occasionally by one of the usually by one of the news weeklies It comes up in the conversation and you can grow cat in this country, too it's very hard to get the seeds or the plants so yeah You can grow poppies here, too if you want I mean yeah well you'd have to grow a huge field and make your words for awhile but I didn't know that anybody in this... Who's using the cat here in the US of A? How about all the brown people. Really? This I'm going to have to look into. According... I find it hard to believe that cats being used at all, you know? All it is a mild for people out there can look it up on the Wikipedia It's a mild stimulant that apparently workers in the Middle East as low-end the poor of the poorest of the poor because stuff is cheap this cat can work a lot harder for their dollar an hour or whatever they get paid less

1:23:35 uh... with their stone don cat because it gives you a lot of energy is kinda like uh... cocaine the cheapest like poor man's cocaine hello i mean every year of crack ever hear of weed and these are all drugs in the if there's a if there's a market for it you can bet the united states of america including our politicians are in on the game as well we do that bombs but how did we use the bombs to control our business what he doing I'm just thinking about this. What was that? It was a pen, and i had it going like this with the pen against my chair handle like this because I have is this kind of nervous tick when I am trying to think about something so making this noise here in United States cat is a schedule one drug schedule 1

CHAPTER 31 / 51 Discussion

Drug Scheduling and Khat Classification in the US

The hosts examine the US government's drug scheduling system, noting that Khat is classified as a Schedule 1 substance, the same as heroin and marijuana. They criticize the logic of the scheduling, pointing out that highly addictive pharmaceuticals like OxyContin are in lower categories. The discussion highlights the legal status of Khat in other countries like Israel and Ethiopia.

khat· schedule 1· dea· marijuana· heroin

1:24:30 is that what really yeah and according to the worst it's a happy hour so of course best i don't know if the best thing about it was held all then they've got uh... cat is a stimulant on the other side in uh... categorize the user well you know what their category one is uh... what is our schedule one drug but i'm looking at up here users schedule skit why do they call as usual drugs scheduled no schedule Schedule 1. The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse, the drug or other substance has no currently accepted medicinal use and treatment in the United States there's a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substances under the medical supervision. Texas Board of Pharmacy schedule one drugs with a high abuse risk period

1:25:20 These drugs have no safe accepted medical use in the United States, including marijuana which is bogus. Heroin? Heroin which is also bogus. MTMA? Which they're all bogus! PCP and crack cocaine... well crack cocaine you can do without it. DMT which is very good. Schedule 2's drugs with a high abuse rate but safe accepted medical things like Percodan regular cocaine, morphine, Ritalin. Haldol, Ritalin, Adderall all easily obtainable through prescription! Yay!! And then schedule 3 4 & 5 are drugs with an abuse risk less than 2 these drugs have a safe and accepted medical use including Hydrocodone which I believe is

1:26:07 What's the oxycontin? Right, so oxycontin is a schedule of three four five because that's the legal heroin. It's the legal heroine! I love it how people say i have no authority to talk about drugs on this show because I've never done coke. Did somebody say that in the chat room?! ban them yeah then they'll kick that guy are reading right from reading right from the state board of pharmacy what authority do i need to read and by the way website i am the authority when it comes to dope to pot to match a marijuana the mary jane but we're going to get rid of any reiterate what i just said if i am reading directly from the state board of pharmacy

1:26:48 I can't read because of some douchebag in the chatroom? They were complaining about me, not you. I don't care who they're complaining about! I'm telling you what i think You always are the genius No one ever complains about YOU You have all the credibility in the world It's that curry He doesn't know shit Guys, this is a personal offense I can't read He's a disc jockey he never done coke, he doesn't know anything Anyway, the point is that this schedule thing is crap. So Cat would be Schedule 1? Which makes it a highly desirable commodity to be selling! I've never even known this was available to anybody See?! This is why you gotta get out of the house You gotta talk to terrorists Hang out with more swarthy Middle Easterners I'm telling ya man Tony The Terrorist Is A Treasure Trove Of Information

CHAPTER 33 / 51 Discussion

Investigating the Khat Market in San Francisco and Austin

Adam Curry expresses interest in finding Khat in Austin to test its effects, while John C. Dvorak suggests it is likely hidden in plain sight in Middle Eastern or Somali markets in San Francisco. They conclude that the mainstream media has ignored the "Khat connection" to Yemeni politics for years. The hosts vow to follow up on the prevalence of the drug in the US.

khat· san francisco· austin· somali community· drug enforcement

1:31:52 Hey, I gotta try this. Ladies and gentlemen if you know where i can get me some cat in Austin... Now you're just soliciting illegal activity? Yes! I'm going to try this of course are you kidding me?! You're not gonna find it this is a different milieu we are nowhere near this milieu We've got middle easterners in uh... we've got Africans in Austin and we have a lot of people from West Africa, I'm sure there's a hookup. You know the funny thing about this? And just making a wild guess but i'll bet if you go floating around some of the Middle Eastern stores in San Francisco and elsewhere it's right there!

1:32:33 It's probably right there under the counter you can just go grab. No, I bet it is right there amongst the vegetables where you go what they'll use this for? And ask the old lady... By the way do this when i shop in Chinese areas. I look at some crazy plant which could be a bundle of cat and I say and I looked to the ol' ol' Chinese woman who was their buying stuff and I say what are you using this for? And she goes I don't know But why is it in your store lady? I don't know. Wow, all right so this is a new avenue we must pursue this is never before discussed as far as I know I've never seen anyone talk about cat on any mainstream news channel and now we know the trade comes directly from Yemen

1:33:25 and this may be the reason no one ever asks you know they always talk yeah okay it would droning people in yemen because their pre al-qaeda prepared al qaeda terrorism police peninsula preparing to attack us so yeah i'm buying that i'm really buying that and how many women by that well there's no reason the question anymore maybe we are we pronouncing a right What, cat? Yeah is it cot? No no it's cat. You sure its not scat because I think that's better. And by the way it legal in most of the world Ethiopia, Somalia, it's a good wiki page on this K-H-A-T look at that people. It's schedule one drug in America equal to heroin. Consumed by older Mizrahi Israelis raw plant is edible for sale and several open markets

1:34:19 In Israel, it's legal. It is obviously legal in Yemen. Awesome! It is an illegal drug in Finland. It's prohibited in France. It's a non-trafficable substance in Germany So you know that this where the trade is going on? If its illegal that's where your government is trading in it Love it It's a hard drug in the Netherlands? Oh yeah, oh yeah of course. Its use is mostly limited in Holland to the Somali community? Oh if it's in Holland I'll have Mickey bring some back from her trip. Well she'll never get it! Yes she will we know Somalis In Norway cat is classified as an narcotic drug illegal to sell or use or possess most users are Somali immigrants this is where you would go to a Somalis own store

1:35:14 in the Bay Area and I bet you they got it. You were just like you said behind the counter Alright, let's move off this and table that to be investigated We'll follow up on this Yes This is a good one You stumbled onto something by accident No no no This is what happens when you get out of the house Hello Hello this was not by accident I was an investigator Yeah? I went to my source and asked a direct question And got an answer This is not by accident This is actual work we do John Well, the funny thing is it's true and it seems to me that the mainstream media should have picked up on this cat connection like what five years ago? Yeah.

CHAPTER 34 / 51 Discussion

Argo Movie Connection to Benghazi and HPV Vaccine Scams

A listener donation prompts a discussion about the movie "Argo" being used as a propaganda tool released shortly after the Benghazi events. The hosts also touch upon the "Gardasil" HPV vaccine, labeling it a scam pushed by Merck. They argue that medical providers use false positives from defective scanning machines to pressure parents into vaccinating children.

argo· benghazi· gardasil· hpv· merck

1:35:52 And you just ask a limo driver and they're like, ah here's the story. Yeah I mean really? This is how it works? That's the state of the art for journalism today Well let us remind each other we are... The best podcast in the universe! I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab Yeah We know about cats! Alright, we do have a few people to thank. A few? In fact I'll tell you we have 11 people to thank so this segment is not going to be very long and after i'm done I want to remind people of the reasons they should be helping us instead of just sitting around but let's thank the people that were smart enough to... Stop sitting around

1:36:42 Bitches a child. Los Quimbe in Cicero, Illinois 9999 3333 I like your analysis on Hurricane Sandy yet surprised you didn't blame it on Adams 12 inches rain stick by the way It could have been brought up in the conversation. Yeah, and going back to Benghazi I was all surprised you guys didn't connect it to the movie Argo Hold on a second we have connected it to the movie Argo many times Yes, I agree We were talking about Argo before it even happened! We were talking about the movie Argo yes Right apparently we had to repeat ourselves a lot on this show maybe this guy is behind

1:37:20 I for one believe that was to promote another given fact it was released just a few weeks after the Libya event. Fact! Anyways, can I get a MILF por la mañana karma? What?! Probably talking about... That one. Oh that one okay. MILF for Ada Jimenez and getting Mo Nation cocaine so she can get a job and screw HPV karma for my cousin Marina who was told she might have the virus. I hit her in the mouth so she can be aware that just selling her Gardasil, which is another good tale of woe that we should discuss maybe another month. One last question for Lord Jean... What? Well it's very simple to repeat the scam or I can do that after we give out the karma

CHAPTER 35 / 51 Discussion

Meta-Prepper Strategy and Electric Vehicle Stealth

John C. Dvorak explains his "meta-prepper" strategy, which involves keeping a list of local preppers so he can seize their supplies during a collapse. He notes that his electric vehicle allows him to approach their locations silently. The hosts also acknowledge a donation from a "cellist friend" in Spring, Texas, and discuss the concept of "science karma."

preppers· electric vehicles· stealth· survivalism· spring texas

1:38:10 Yeah, we do it. We got nothing else to do as very few donors one last question for Jean-Claude What's a good weapon to take out the peppers and therefore become a meta? Oh, but they got the preppers and Therefore become a meta prepper I don't I don't recommend weaponry you have to do your own research. Um, I can tell you anyway Hello I can tell you... What? Well, for some reason you're on a delay or something so i'm talking and then your not stopping. Or are just ignoring me No, im stopping but apparently the delay is getting worse You want to reconnect one more time? Yeah lets reconnect one more time its good idea Okay, now why it gets this bad? Uh well Im in San Francisco things change Its a road show Disconnected from server okay I get ya It's a road show Things happen He was complaining

1:39:03 You know, it's like in the 90s... Go back. Yeah! In the 90s it wasn't like we were doing radio shows from hotel rooms easily It would take a whole truck with dudes and technicians. Let's go back to that by the way before all done He needs his uh whatever MILF whatever I know exactly what to do here hold on a second MILF That one mother I'd like to have. Por la mañana you've got karma. Alright, let me just answer the question first The weapon you need to as a meta prepper take out the other preppers is an electric vehicle so they don't hear ya coming and guess who has one of those? I almost scared a guy to death And guess who has one of those yes and that the Gardasil thing just briefly uh... your wife girlfriend sister daughter whatever will go in for regular pap smear

1:39:59 They will say, oh it looks like you're pre-cancerous. By the way every human being on earth is by definition pre-cancerous I'm also pre death You know i'm not dead yet so im pre death They'll say your test didn't look right and then you have to come in for a biopsy Then you go in for a biopsy which is not dangerous or without risk or discomfort and then that'll come back, oh no everything's okay you don't have it but maybe just to make sure you need to have the HPV shot. And by the way if you got a teenage boy better give it him too so he doesn't get throat cancer! It's a scam All right, let's move on. Well you also have to mention the fact that the machines they're using are defective well They're in bed with the with the company so Merc is in bed with the company that makes the new fast processing scanning scans for HPV and by definition By admission they produce a high level of false positives mainly as an insurance scam but also against

1:40:57 lawsuits should they miss something so it's a high level of false positives but it's a scam. Onward! Oh, oh geez. See this is what happens when we... Well hold on a second I wasn't... 69! 69 dude! I wasn't ready for it! You never are for some unknown reason Because it keeps showing up earlier and earlier Yeah well pretty soon its not going to show up at all Daniel Sands in Spring Texas 6969, dear John and Adam from your cellist friend in Spring Nuts Chex Texas. No! Spring Nuts Texas After listening to you make fun of Better Produce Podcast on the November 1st show I had to donate Thanks for being cyber bullies that i can look up too He wants his science karma That's us baby Cyber Bullies You Can Look Up To Science!

CHAPTER 36 / 51 Discussion

Election Fraud Theories and Absentee Ballot Scams

The hosts discuss reports from a "White House Insider" regarding how elections are allegedly stolen through double-voting with absentee ballots. They suggest that both the Democratic and Republican parties engage in these tactics to sway results in key districts. The conversation reflects a general distrust in the integrity of the upcoming 2012 presidential election.

election fraud· absentee ballots· mitt romney· barack obama· white house insider

1:41:59 You've got karma. Cyber bullies you can look up to! Gregory Davies in Lawton, Oklahoma 6969 my PayPal just crapped out while donating so this may come through twice unfortunately it didn't It's Greg the Crazy Australian lost in Oklahoma here again I want to say thank you for all the work guys do I just read from The White House Insider on the Olsterman report that he is predicting a Romney victory this week would be interested in hearing Adam's ideas and analysis. What about me? This already stolen election is driving me batshit crazy at this point, I have to laugh when illegal immigration came up in the laughable excuse for debates nobody addresses what it costs that it cost an excess of $800 for immigrants to apply for citizenship

1:42:47 Think I should waste my money so that i can also waste my vote in a stolen election? Screw those douchebags! Also, I am really impressed with the knighthood accounting feature over at noagendanation.com Very clever idea. Have no idea how far it goes towards the knighthood until I saw that. Kudos to whoever did that was Eric DeShille He would like some Hay's Shittison Karma Yes we can absolutely provide that Where is my shittison? Here you go You've got karma. Just briefly on that White House Insider thing which I was not going to bring up, the thing that was interesting about the White House Insider is they talk about how the elections are stolen and here's how it works heres the scam and apparently this happens every single election you get people to get the absentee ballots and then they fill out the absentee ballots but they also go to the polling station so they basically vote twice

1:43:41 And apparently, yes about 80% of these double votes will get flagged. But 10-20%, according to the White House Insider, get through and that is the number one way that elections are stolen and I'm not saying anything other than this vote early has been pretty big this year. and vote early, there you go! Vote early and vote often. Twice if you can. And apparently the White House insider who of course is a former Democratic Democratic Party insider, he says that they did this in 2008. And I don't think it would have made a difference but apparently they did this to ensure Obama's win and looks like both sides are doing it again this election season and that sounds very plausible to me. Yeah if both sides do it kind of neutrals the events itself out now the other thing is I doubt if they catch eighty percent of that scam well that's what you said

1:44:44 It just seems like a high number. I think that these guys are so lazy they probably don't catch anybody, but that's okay All right back to the donation 6969 version swazzle enough I've been contributing, this is who's an anonymous guy from PartsUnknown. Since March 2009 via PayPal but after reviewing my donation history realized that only contribute $177 in all that time. Uh-oh! Because I won a night ring at the step of my game so to get it thousand dollar to a thousand dollars on donate 6969 for the next 12 shows Well there goes the... I guess 69 is going be with us forever It will not stop

CHAPTER 37 / 51 Discussion

Listener Birthdays and Helicopter Rescue in Northern Ontario

A donor from Cambridge, Ontario, shares a story about being stranded at a frozen lake and needing a helicopter rescue after a float plane pilot abandoned him. The hosts provide "travel karma" and mock the pilot. They also acknowledge several listener birthdays and discuss John Dvorak's son's success in publishing detective stories on Kindle.

ontario· helicopter· travel karma· birthdays· kindle

1:45:22 That will keep the string going with the time giving me a steady supply of getting laid karma for the smoking hot babe I'm flirting with at work. I request that once I make it up to knighthood, I will be called Sir Swazzle Knuth." Okay well let's give him some gettin' laid karma then. Sounds like he needs that! future sir schwozomath nice nice Sir Jason Stevens in lost wages Nevada 6969 greetings from lost wages nevada nuts I just wanted some gratuitous getting laid carmy before i have to travel out can i get a MILF ITM also Tuesday will be my 37th and I get on the birthday list for my last trip around the sun thanks again for the best podcast in the universe. Milf is that one mother id like to f***

1:46:12 in the morning you've got karma Matthew Stevens in North Richland Hills as opposed to South Richland Hills, Texas 69... is there a south richland hill? I have no idea please send a shout out and karma for phone boy for propagating the formula he also give me a deducing and some karma. You guys should consider using Amazon as they don't charge any fees amazon what I didn't know Amazon would... Oh, is that what Kickstarter uses? Amazon money thing. I don't know anything about it somebody's gonna have to brief me on this That may not be a bad idea and should i tell you why Why because

1:46:58 A lot of people already have an Amazon account because they order, you know underwear or batteries or whatever sex toys from Amazon books if you have a Kindle you have an Amazon account And so they wouldn't have to sign up for anything additional. We should look into it may not be I mean, I know you're cautious When it comes to that but it maybe something we can add as an addition If I mean look at the money It could save us it could be 50 bucks a week in fees What does Amazon make on the deal? Why would they be doing this for nothing. I don't know, maybe just to you know... I don't know. That doesn't sound right Tim Dietrich and Bieber only do have free Kindle books. Hold on hold on hold on. You've been de-dooched! They do have... You've got karma. They do have free Kindle books and it doesn't seem to bother them No that doesn't bother them

1:47:54 No, it doesn't bother them. No My son's almost done with his second detective story. Really? He just pooping him out! I mean he is going to have a 13 series set by the time you come out with your first book. They said they'd go with the vinegar book let alone the economics book. Vinegar Book?! Wait, we have The Egg Book, The Vinegar Book, The Salt Book... The Cycle Book... The Scholastic Project Yeah, well you know it's a tough life. So but anyway John S Dvorak if you want to look him up it's uh... You can buy copies It's only three bucks on Kindle

1:48:36 Tim Dietrich, Cambridge Ontario 6969 looking for karma and hope it's activated when I send my cash. Currently in Long Dong Lake Northern Ontario getting taken out of a First Nation community via helicopter because the float plane operator left me yesterday and now the lake is frozen what? Talk about needing travel karma anyway. He needs some and he hopes to be getting here at home sometime during the Sunday show, and how about a douche bag for the float pilot? Douche Bag! Hell yeah, here's some travel karma for ya chopper boy We've got... Karma That's crazy And we complain when we miss the subway Yeah that was weird Darn Uhh..and that closes our 6969 segment now for todays show 6969 dude! Dude!

CHAPTER 38 / 51 Discussion

Gitmo Nation National Anthem and Meta-Prepper Humor

The hosts play the "Gitmo Nation National Anthem" for the audience and acknowledge a donation from a couple in Boston who recently became "house poor." The donor praises Dvorak's "meta-prepper" jokes as the funniest moment of his career. Adam Curry reiterates the tactical advantage of using an electric vehicle for survivalist scenarios.

gitmo nation· national anthem· meta-prepper· boston· donations

1:49:28 Another anonymous donor from PartsUnknown5550, monthly donor for having a 111 megabyte file for the episode of Eleven.one and for the nice laugh for experimenting with stereo channels... Yeah that was on the last show I had to donate 111 megabytes divided by two channels for 55 50 can you please play the anthem for people who only listen to the podcast and properly where all of the slaves stand up mid-show Yeah. Well I think we should do that, we can do that because... At least once every anniversary! We should do that now because we have a short donation segment anyway and when i forgot to do it two episodes ago so let's just do it for one of our... Oh yeah, it's 35 seconds Ladies and gentlemen please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem And you're welcome to sing along In the morning Gitmo nation We are all charged up to beat

1:50:25 Human resources and servants in all lands, at all ships and sea. From the east to west down under to the lowlands and beyond We are happy and distracted slaves Hear our hyponation song Shut up, slave! Alright. Clint Strackner in Fort Smith Arkansas really nice area of the country double nickels on the dime been a while since I donated so i decided to send some support your way he needs a karma shot absolutely

1:51:13 You've got karma. You'll notice by the way that we do not have a single 55-55 which is exactly my plan Yeah, great Thanks for that Colin Peterson and Jerome Idaho 54-55 A week late and $1 short Heyo Here's another five year hitting them in the mouth Can I get some karma from my new project at work? And will you please follow it up with Parliament overlaid with little girl saying yay That is good karma Hold on a second...I gotta make that like a standard combo Yeah, you should just yeah right produce it. Uh yeah hold on a second Let me just get that and he wants that as a karma shot Yeah Okay, it's not like this is easy to do you know You've got karma

1:52:01 People like the Parliament, yay! What is up with that? It's just a bunch of grumbling. It's weird. Smith Michael in Fredericksburg Virginia $50 saving money from Sir Mr. Smith and Dame Baroness Maggie Vincent are now house poor but karma rich in their new life in Chowderville also known as Boston JCD being a meta prepper by having a list of all the preppers so he could go and steal their stuff is hands down the absolutely funniest thing I've ever heard him say in his entire career. Yes, thank you very much. And add to that... By the way thank you Mr Smith and Baroness Maggie Vincent Add to that John as the meta prepper has the electric vehicle so he can sneak up on them stealthy like they'll never hear him coming

CHAPTER 39 / 51 Discussion

Podcast Value Proposition and Funding Frustrations

Adam Curry delivers a stern message to the audience regarding the low level of donations, comparing the cost of the show to parking fees or movie tickets. He warns that if financial support does not improve, the hosts may have to stop producing the program. He expresses frustration with PayPal's subscription management and the "mediocre" response to recent high-quality content.

donations· value for value· paypal· subscriptions· podcasting

1:52:50 And finally, Sir Andrew Halverson in Gravenhurst Ontario $50. That will be it for today's list of contributors but let me mention a few things here because if you're not going to contribute so you can get your words and I'm gonna put my words in this is a low number for us In fact, for November it's extremely low and I want to mention to people that or remind people if they go the theater they're paying more than they are helping us out with. They are doing five hours a week books on tape is rarely 20 hours a month and we do twenty hours a month and multiply that by whole year and see what you get parking in San Francisco is 25 cents for 5 minutes

1:53:28 And if you just go for five hours, it's like $60 a month just for parking. If you go 52 weeks of parking it can be up to seven hundred and eighty dollars at three dollars an hour. In other words, you're not giving us what you pay for parking anyway uh... and by the way we don't appreciate people saying well you know if I give you guys fifty dollars so my wife is going to get mad I mean if you can't convince your wife that this is the way this is done because you're buying more than $50 worth of products when you listen to these commercial shows, it's just really not a good excuse and its not well my wife might get mad here's fifty dollars in cash. This is not the way you're supposed to be living your life. I should get a divorce! I do not think anyone really looks carefully at what

1:54:15 you know what is needed to get this show on the air and why we're doing it this way because it's the only way we can discuss stuff like The Cat Story for example or Pipelines, or anything else that we look into an extreme. And our time is worth something in heaven forbid that if we get another series of donations like the last two... You know? We will stop doing the show and find something else to do when it becomes available. Yeah I can't argue with them all have already looking But your point is well made. And here's what you need to remember... Oops, wrong one I'm shaken by what you just said, i'm sorry Yeah! Yeah I am but y'know You rarely go off like that

1:55:02 Well, I rarely see two shows in a row where the response to the show is when we have good material it's been so mediocre. We had 11 people and by the way under the $50 donations there's not a lot of 4995 or anonymous people either it drops off immediately to some 3333 subscriptions one-two three four five them and then just falls down into that you know they're low end subscribers and be honest about it the number of people who've either subscribed or they failed to maintain their subscription because they get pulled by we had another one this week I got a note from the guy hey look PayPal sent me this note saying we canceled the subscription when we never do that. i mean it's just really really not performing the way I'd like to see it and blame the audience okay let's get to our birthdays

CHAPTER 40 / 51 Discussion

No Agenda Moonshine Branding and Celebrity Moonshine

The hosts discuss a new potential revenue stream: "No Agenda Moonshine." Adam Curry shares branding ideas developed with Sir Jeff Smith, including the name "Celebrity Moonshine" (pronounced "Celebretty"). They debate the legal aspects of selling alcohol and whether the "hick" branding will appeal to their audience.

moonshine· branding· celebrity· jeff smith· revenue

1:55:57 alright very short list but sir jason stevens congratulates himself turning thirty seven on the sixth that'll be on uh... on election day and rick dolshinny congratulates himself turning forty five tomorrow happy birthday from your buddies here at the Noah Jett show and it was nice that we had Vicky check in with her completion of her damehood and Kevin Coakley has also finally made it up to his knighthood so we're going to drag out our swords here John. Be careful because when you are kind of angry I don't want you cut yourself. Ow! There ya go.

1:56:40 of and a round table, we got hookers and blow. Of course Dame Vicky, we got Ramboys and Chardonnay We've got geishas and sake, hot pants and booze, wenches and beer It's all here for you! Including the Rubenesque women in rose And please remember where you can help us out in this program. John, since we were running a little short for the past two weeks and we actually had this conversation at dinner I have done some work on an additional revenue source. Yeah...I was liking it when you were doing the auditions. Well yeah well the audition's dried up and i have no idea why

1:57:40 Well I have one idea. Yeah, because they sucked! Well... What is that? I didn't get anything. I think it's because you don't do enough of them. Ah right so ummm.... Okay well i have a segment idea too and you can... Okay let me do..well here's It's not a segment idea it is a... Oh okay I have a segment idea. This is a product that we've been talking about About our No Agenda Moonshine and uh... you know i i i'd i'd you said he would be looking into it on a few had time to look into that got them getting a conversation started okay while you're getting the conversation started i've been working with sir jeff smith and i have uh... some of our branding for the no agenda moonshine and of course which you like to hear some of the branding yeah hit it by no agenda i think we've got a winner

1:58:35 Celebrity? Celebrity Moonshine by Noah Jenda. Not bad, it has a kind of hickey sound to it. Celebrity Moonshine by Noah Jenda It's gonna be... I'm telling you this is huge! Now we'll still spell it celebrity but will have people all around the country going hey man and you tried some that celebrity Yeah, or maybe we should just call it No Agenda Moonshine. I think the idea of Celebrity Moonshine that actually has a kind of ring to it. Celebrity Moonshine! Pronounced Celebretty by no agenda. Celebretty...I think it might work? It's a possibility there are some legal aspects that we have to deal with. Okay well you- I have an idea for new segment okay one little make us money yeah I think people really flocked to it. Flocked to the show because of it

CHAPTER 41 / 51 Discussion

What's John Eating Segment and Persimmon Season

A new segment titled "What's John Eating?" is introduced, where John Dvorak eats a food item and Adam Curry must guess what it is. Adam correctly identifies a persimmon on the first try, explaining that he saw them in abundance at a San Francisco market recently. The hosts decide to keep the segment despite the audio quality challenges of the Mumble system.

persimmons· san francisco· food· guessing game· mumble

1:59:30 Okay, this is going to be like similar to Ask Adam. Oh okay so we need imaging soon yeah? Yeah and then it's called What's John Eating? Okay... This sounds like a- I bite into something and you have to guess what it is in two guesses. Okay only two?! What is this? Three! Even genies give you three wishes. Alright. Three guesses. Okay alright. And I'm gonna bite into it and you can have me re-bite if it okay so ladies and gentlemen it is time once again for what's john eating yes here we go

2:00:12 Okay, sounds very juicy. I have to say... The uh... I have to say the mumble processing is not doing it much justice. There might be a problem with this segment Yeah So it sounds like its very juicy Can you get now- swallow what your- what your having in your mouth now Okay, and then I'd like you to Bite slowly but don't follow it up with all the chew because I have to hear the bite And then it has to really settle in a little disappointed in this particular thing. I'm eating because normally it's crunchy okay one just by I gave you that said That's a clue right bite, but don't don't swallow hmm crunchy well Hmm is it a

2:01:10 Okay, I have three guesses. Is it a persimmon? Holy crap! Really?! Did i get it? Yeah! First, the who you persimmoned Now shall I tell you... Okay this segment is done Shall I tell you why I guessed persimmon? Is there a camera in here? No Hey JC Get the sweeper Can I tell you why I guessed it Because we were at the market on Saturday and every stall had their persimmons out, and I figured huh They're probably in season or the harvest is in. And Mickey's like what is that? I said they're Persimmons. He said are they good? I said well John likes them She said oh never mind

2:01:54 We didn't buy him. By the way, this segment is a big hit with the chat room I know i'm not allowed to talk about them anymore but they have a lot of really good guesses! I think we keep the segment in it's very entertaining Okay, you win. One to nothing! I was unable to stump Adam Alright let's talk about the campaign of course today we changed our clocks a lot of people want to change our president on Tuesday We would like too although we wouldn't like to change it to the Romney variety No just same guy and the same coin Exactly same guy Oh by the way before i forget before we get to that

CHAPTER 42 / 51 Discussion

British Two Pound Coin and Osama Bin Laden Likeness

A new commemorative two-pound coin in the UK featuring Charles Dickens is criticized because many people believe the profile looks like Osama bin Laden. John Dvorak argues that introducing higher-denomination coins is a tactic to facilitate inflation and cheapen the currency. The hosts view the coin's design as a potential subliminal message.

two pound coin· charles dickens· osama bin laden· england· currency

2:02:45 I got this awesome picture, hold on. I've got another website for you to take a look at So they have a new coin in England and it is a celebratory coin It is a two pound coin But the back of the coin is supposed to look like... I forget what its supposed to look like Hold on a second Why is not? I want open this up here I think you need to go to 2poundcoin.curry.com, number two pound coin dot curry dot com can you do that for me? Number two not just TWO? No number two so 2poundcoin.curry.com

2:03:34 and uh... the back of the coin is supposed to be charles dickens and the front of the coin of course is the queen it's a commemorative calling but everybody see i'm not going to give you the name everybody in the u k is saying that someone else on the back of the coin and has not charles dickens you tell me who looks like yet the page yeah i do who does it look like on the back of that point as well i marked wayne if you squint your eyes enough uh... people think it looks more like osama bin laden Osama Bin Laden doesn't look anything like Osama Bin Laden. Profile with the beard? No, I don't see it no no no... I saw it immediately well I still don't see it and even after hearing that crap With the hat on top? No, I can see the hat part okay all right maybe whatever alright anyway two pound coins are one of the worst things they could do why is that

2:04:27 Every time you change, so your baseline is it makes it easier for inflation. It makes it easier to cheapen the currency. Oh, is that why they're doing it? Yeah. Okay. Anyway let's get back to the race now one thing I want to point out, you remember the commentary where Mitt Romney is debating and he says, you know, I have four boys and blah-blah-blah. And then a bunch of these douchebags on MSNBC say, oh! It's racist commentary said boy! Alright let me... Let me vomit in his face. Let me say it exactly He said

CHAPTER 43 / 51 Discussion

Media Racial Tension and Subliminal Mind Control

The hosts analyze a New York Times headline and clips from Bill O'Reilly and Bill Maher, arguing that the media is intentionally stoking racial tension before the election. They point to O'Reilly's comments on "African-American grievance" and Maher's warning that "black people will come after" Romney voters as examples of divisive psychological programming.

new york times· fox news· bill o'reilly· bill maher· racial tension

2:05:03 I have five boys and i know what it's like when someone keeps saying something to me that is not true. And then people turn around and said he called the president boy which is not true. Right, so here's...I think you can go with this one The New York Times today Sunday times front page top of the left a big headline in the top left corner right at the top of dubious sentence that the topline is with time as tight as race Oh wow! Really? Comma, next line Obama and Romney zero in. Now what does this even mean with time as tight as race Obama and Romney zero in What does this mean?! That's mind control I mean that's not even English It's not even English with time is tight his race Time is tight his race that is crazy

2:06:00 This is subliminal mind control programming and it makes sense. And I'm glad you brought this up because as we know Fox News is controlled by the Democrats, and we've already seen all kinds of racial tension being created by the Democratic Party... ...and here is Bill O'Reilly who was on The Fox News Network with Dennis... what's the comedian's name? Miller, Dennis Miller and listen to what they're bringing up on the democratically run Fox News. And I look at Barack Obama and think you know i don't sense he likes half this country and I think that's coming back to bite him in the tuckers. You mean the guns religion crew? Yeah just how about disparagement Joe the plumber doesn't make that he doesn't have a pickup truck there seems to be real disassociation between him and the hoy poloy as the classic term Do you think it has anything to do with grievance because in some African-American communities

2:06:58 there is a grievance against whites who aren't sympathetic to their cause and that may be driving a little bit of it so there are some african-americans who believe that the reason they're not prospering as a community do you hear that? The guy's actually saying black people hate white people. It's crazy! But not as crazy as Bill Maher listen to what he said on his lovely little HBO show So I would just like to say for anyone thinking about voting for Mitt Romney, if that's who you are. If you're thinking about voting for Rudra, I'd like to make this one plea... Black people know who you are and they will come after ya! That is so funny!!! That- You can't say- I mean wha- I'm blown away!! You can't say this

CHAPTER 44 / 51 Discussion

Obama Champion Meme and Campaign Messaging

A new campaign meme featuring President Obama as a "champion" for various groups is identified in recent speeches in Iowa and New Hampshire. The hosts argue that this messaging is a late-stage attempt to create a positive association with the President. They question why such a specific rhetorical shift is occurring just days before the election.

barack obama· champion· iowa· campaign· memes

2:07:59 I don't know, but there's all kinds of little interesting memes. Oh and by the way just a little bit off the main topic but still on it Obama...I was listening to Al Jazeera that did this one too and they only played a little bit of it. They had him live, and I think he's up in New Hampshire or Virginia somewhere live or Iowa...I don't know but it is beside the point because It sounds to me as though at the very last minute of the campaign somebody has the bright idea of developing a new meme They only have part of it clipped here But believe me it went on and on with him saying the same thing See if you can spot the meme

2:08:44 And President Obama is now campaigning in the swing state of Iowa. He's currently in the town of Dubuque. The laid off furniture worker who suddenly has to retrain at the age of 55 for a new career, trying to figure out how to pay for community college... She needs a champion! The restaurant owner who's got some great food but needs a loan to expand and the bank turned him down he needs a champion Now the corpse in the way. Earlier, the president had tried to whip up support and hire the state... What? They cut him off but he kept saying one champion after another. Champion. He needs a champion. Champion yeah When did that show up?! Uh it sounds like a Bill Clinton thing doesn't it

2:09:33 I don't know, but why are they running it so deep in the campaign at the last minute? Well, especially... Oh! I can tell you why. That's easy It's associative You think champion you think Obama you think champion. I think that's just association. You know what I mean He is already the president. He is already the champions We are the champions No no he is only a champion and then you need to defeat the champion A new champion? No. You keep your current champion. So one of our producers was at an Obama-fest uh... where the president showed up and he immediately got on the stick and sent me a he said oh my god you will not believe this song that they are playing before the president comes on stage at his producer actually recorded their lives arms iphone uh... i it was almost impossible to play his clips for the just wouldn't sound right now on the show but i pulled a clip from this actual

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Sugarland Everyday America Lyrics and Psychological Warfare

A listener reports that the song "Everyday America" by Sugarland was played at an Obama rally in Dubuque, Iowa. The hosts analyze the lyrics, which mention "living in a great big lie," and suggest it is a subliminal message about the state of the country. They view the choice of music as part of a broader psychological warfare campaign against the electorate.

sugarland· everyday america· barack obama· dubuque· psychological warfare

2:10:31 song which is a uh... from a popular band called sugar land are you familiar with the sugar lands of john to go and we have heard early yeah i mean they're not they're not like iraq in boys green day but sugar land that has uh... as a man in the world best-selling sugar green day dot those kids at midnight be something someday you know if he if you keep supporting So Sugarland has a song called everyday America and I'm going to play 30 seconds of it See if you can hear the lyrics. I will read the lyrics to you if you can Here we go It's the chorus Everybody's just scared

2:11:29 Now were you able to hear the lyrics through the mumble system? I heard everybody's just getting by home of the great big lie That's not quite what it is, but that's what I heard the first time too. It's oh whoa everyone's dreaming big Oh Whoa But everyone's just getting by which of course as we know is the American dream as portrayed by the president That's how it goes in everyday America a little town and a great big life but I also also heard lie the first time i'm like oh my god this is so perfect and this is also subliminal we are under attack we're under attack where was this played? This has got to be regional specific music it was uh no Sugarland is huge you know they win awards but they're not going to play country and western crap around Obama in the northeast I can find out exactly where it came from hold on a second

2:12:22 where's our producer here uh... a dubuque producer brian okay that's the same place weeks come out with his mean that was did you get so it so he was hit uh... appeared to use the note from my producer brian by rarely was that he donated on the last show is the is a guy not only donating he's going into the obama camp to go and see what's up to report back apologies for the recording quality, using my iPhone. The biggest surprise I noticed...I wouldn't have noticed before NOAgenda how many times and people expressly confirmed the function of the teleprompter two separate people checked it a total of four times

2:13:09 pretty late in the race to accidentally slip off script I suppose. Then he says, standing in the cold and they play the music before the event a phrase I heard perk me up I did look up found it was Sugar Land's Everyday America lyrics are and then he cites the lyrics and he recorded that but I figured i'd get you the good version. John Mellicamp performed, and then the president came on. But there ya go! So it was a champion...I am the champion You're just getting by We're all living in a big fat lie. I mean this is-you are under attack people! You are under attack! Psychological warfare

2:13:48 But please don't support this show. No, go send $10 to the Red Cross Yeah text it! Text it to them yeah and change your Twitter icon while you're at it. Meanwhile, of course Gary Johnson I was thinking about the coin analogy is that when you listen to the debase between Obama and Romney they never brought up any of the things that if you take another coin which has on one side of the coin Gary Johnson and Ron Paul. The other side of the coin would be Ralph Nader and somebody like Kucinich and what they discuss is like, uh... is never even brought up anymore. In fact I have a bunch of... Nader was giving a talk at the

CHAPTER 46 / 51 Discussion

Ralph Nader on Corporate Welfare and Fascism

Ralph Nader is featured in a clip discussing "corporate welfare" and the collusion between giant corporations and the government. He argues that both parties support subsidies and bailouts that undermine market discipline. The hosts equate this "corporatism" with the classic definition of fascism, where the state and corporate interests become indistinguishable.

ralph nader· corporate welfare· crony capitalism· fascism· corporatism

2:14:32 at something poet some someplace in New York where a bunch of lefties hang out and he's your left winger but he makes some of the same points and I've had to have a bunch good clips from him on stuff that is never discussed. Actually, we think it might be good to combine them as an end-of show clip which will give you the sequence there are couple here but there is one I just like to play out of the blue which is Nader on corporate welfare Okay. Get corporations off welfare, that happens to be supported by liberals, Democrats, Republicans, conservatives, libertarians but not corporatists By the way I have never met a corporatist who doesn't call herself or himself a conservative But i've never met a conservative who calls themselves corporatists They call it on the right

2:15:28 crony capitalism. We call it corporate welfare, subsidies handouts giveaways bailouts artificial quotas contrary to market discipline all kinds of governmental power and governmental tax collected money to the giant profitable corporations well this is very interesting that this comes up at this moment in uh... in the conversation so what you're talking about here is the collusion of government and business is that what i'm hearing yeah fascism it's also known as corporatism well thank have u uh... seen the most recent executive order their president put out all know but i'm gonna hear about it right now yes you are because as you know we'd like to read things that our our government publishes

CHAPTER 47 / 51 Discussion

Executive Order on Local Partnerships and Homeland Security

The hosts analyze a recent executive order regarding "local partnerships" for homeland security, which mandates collaboration between federal agencies and the private sector. They list the numerous departments involved, including the Treasury, Defense, and the FBI. Adam Curry argues this is a formalization of fascism by executive decree, allowing the government to use corporate resources for domestic spying.

executive order· homeland security· fascism· fbi· private sector

2:16:14 and uh... i a m that not only do i catch them on white house dot gov but are our fine then producer chad there in the in denver he also well he's these are producer who was now reading everything comes out of the federal register this came out on uh... i think it was just before the hurricane struck hurricane sandy or super super storm sandy this came out on the twenty six By the authority vested in me as President Constitution body buddy, but about I hereby Order to advance the federal government's use of local partnerships to address homeland security challenges Are you ready for this?

2:16:56 Hereby, I order it as follows. The purpose of this order is to maximize the federal government's ability to develop local partnerships in the United States to support homeland security priorities. Partnerships are collaborative working relationships in which the goals structure and roles and responsibilities of the relationships are mutually determined. Collaboration enables the federal government and its partners to use resources more efficiently build on one another's expertise drive innovation engage in collective action, broaden investment to achieve shared goals and improve performance. Partnerships enhance our ability to screw the American people by spying on them! To address homeland security priorities from responding to natural disasters to preventing terrorism. So every single... now this whole executive order here are the departments that are supposed to be nominating and working with companies and corporations in the private sector

2:17:54 Department of State, Department of Treasury, Department of Defense, Department of Interior, Agriculture Commerce Labor Health and Human Services Housing Urban Development Transportation Energy Education Veteran Affairs Homeland Security National Intelligence Environmental Protection Agency Small Business Administration and Federal Bureau of Investigation. This is the feds colluding with private business this is the definition of fascism by executive order from this president you gotta kick this guy out and make sure that Romney douchebag doesn't come in good luck I know but this isn't gonna happen. This really, this IS fascism! This is the definition of it yeah and that's...it scares me well, I don't know You just get by you don't care

CHAPTER 48 / 51 Discussion

Economic Collapse Predictions and 1893 Cycle Comparison

John Dvorak predicts an economic collapse in March 2013, drawing parallels to the panic of 1893. He suggests that the "fiscal cliff" and a lack of cooperation in Washington will trigger a major downturn following Obama's re-election. Adam Curry expresses concern about his own financial stability in Texas if these predictions come true.

economic collapse· 1893· fiscal cliff· barack obama· cycles

2:18:45 You don't care. Well, you know at some point you go well that's an interesting maneuver It's not an interesting maneuver. It is a collusion of government and business to spy on the American people Yeah, no I know if I think them at some point it's gonna be it's not gonna work out And how was that report when economy collapses by the way in the next couple years or next year probably? Well, it's gonna be handy when that happens well, it's gonna be interesting Wait a minute Is it so Obviously didn't collapse in October, so we're still thinking March or is it going to be October next year? What does the current cycle say okay well the cycle would be generally the cycle would be you

2:19:27 This is starting to, you have to pick a year and I'm picking 1893 as opposed to 1933 or 1973 even though there's evidence it could be any one of these styles of problems. In 1893 it was just an economic collapse for the year of 93 which would mean that it would probably take place here's what here's one possible scenario to consider okay? Which will be outlined in the book The president gets re-elected or Romney gets him, but I think we're banking... not banking but we're predicting that Obama's going to get it easily.

2:20:06 And he's going to get back in, it's gonna be all celebrating and his wife is gonna be happy as a happy camper. Everybody is gonna be just jumping for joy. Party party party party! But he's there to do nothing because the Republicans are already not very cooperative and he doesn't help things He's not very good at making them cooperative like you could be so we're gonna off the fiscal cliff Right January 1st right just boom and they're not going to you know, he said well don't worry about it I'll get it where we get fixed before then or get fixed right afterwards and actually said a couple times. It'll get fixed Afterwards mm-hmm which is not this is not the way to do things Because it might not get fixed afterwards How do you know there's no guarantees so won't get fixed? And so the fiscal cliff is gonna come into play in all hells gonna break loose

2:20:57 and we'll see what you know it's not going to be fun to watch I don't think so that means it would the collapse would happen in March or sooner and then it would carry out throughout the year. So next year just gonna be a mess. So if March is what were looking at? Is its... Well, I'm guessing yeah this one scenario there's about five of them I'l outline them all. How much time do I have No, four months would be okay in Texas. Well four years is okay with what? With these donations and no jobs? For the first time in my life I got turned down for a job! Literally! You're unemployable...I am. I've made myself unemployable by doing this show for five years and for some reason John C. Dvorak Jean Claude gets a pass he gets to write columns he gets to be on Twit gets do all the

2:21:44 Are you on that show again today? I'm clean enough from going on Twitch. Are you on Twitch again today? No, I am not! Oh okay... If you'd listened to the last show You would have known that i was not even invited To come on today They get sick of me they can only do A couple shows and then they're like ehhh this guy... Yeah but when your ON Then you get all these opportunities Ya know ya got like people calling you I mean I get on I get nothing but hate You science hater You hater You hate moon crazy This is just that this is that this Ya know this has nothing to do with ME No, I'm not saying it has anything to do with you. All i am saying is don't tell me that you attract this sort of follower Yes but don't tell me that im going to be ok in Texas Im not gonna be okay in Texas with no money With no money ill be fine It gets colder the winter Things are gonna work out So from your mouth to God's ears

CHAPTER 49 / 51 Discussion

Gary Johnson on Marijuana Legalization and Puppy Punching

Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson's stance on legalizing marijuana is discussed, with Johnson arguing that 90% of drug problems are related to prohibition. The hosts contrast this with a news story about a man punching a puppy while intoxicated on alcohol, noting that such behavior is rarely associated with marijuana use. They suggest Johnson should adopt a more aggressive messaging style.

gary johnson· marijuana· colorado· prohibition· animal abuse

2:22:39 So let's go, let me play one more Nader clip before we do the end of show. Yeah do the weed one! We got a weed one? Oh I do have a weed one that is Gary Johnson, this is a Gary Johnson clip he was on Book TV and this is his really good little spiel on drug laws The libertarian party is often associated with changing the drug laws and you've advocated for that as well. Changing the... Drug laws? Drug laws, yes! You know since 1999 I have advocated legalizing marijuana control it regulate it tax it I think we're at a tipping point with regard to marijuana and legalizing

2:23:17 I think that Colorado is going to do that. It's on the ballot in Colorado this November, regulate marijuana like alcohol. I think it's going to pass when it passes and if doesn't pass in Colorado its going to pass 50% of Americans now are saying they support the notion. Its a growing number It's a growing number because people are talking about the issue more than they ever have before, recognizing 90% of the drug problem is prohibition related not use-related. That's not to discount the problems with use and abuse but that should be the focus I think when we legalize marijuana i think were going to take giant steps forward regarding all other drugs

2:24:04 And that's going to be starting with looking at the drug issue first as a health issue rather than a criminal justice issue. Let's get the police out on the streets enforcing real crime Let's free up the courts and let's empty the prisons of the 2.3 million people that we have in them, the majority category of those being drug-related." And of course it... We're not going to release anybody from jail that has committed other crime in lieu of drug crime but those who are in jail victimless nonviolent drug crime there needs to be

2:24:43 there needs to be commutation of those sentences and there needs to be pardons for 30 million Americans that but for our drug laws and have served out their sentences, but for our drug laws would otherwise be taxpaying law-abiding citizens. Alright let me say something about Gary Johnson gonna I know you're going vote for him. So hold on a second...30 million? That's bullcrap! Well go on. That's off way off First of all, the guy's boring. He should be... if he wants to get some votes he should say I'm going to legalize cat! Think about what...I mean half America is gonna go oh alright, legalize cat and then they'll get all the ethnics to vote for him Yes and instead that long two minute boring speech his message is right he should say listen to this

2:25:37 No one ever did this while they were stoned on weed? Elsewhere in news today a Lewis County man is behind bars this afternoon accused of punching a puppy and throwing it against the tree. Deputies say the 20 year old man was intoxicated overnight and beat his family's five month old German Shepherd... No one does that when they're on weed, okay?! You do not punch a puppy when you're smoking weed! Do you have a story that you've clipped as a guy punching a puppy? I thought it was amazing It's an interesting show title. Punching a puppy! I mean, but that happens when people are on alcohol not when you're chewing the cat or smoking the weed

CHAPTER 50 / 51 Discussion

Show Outro and Dog Cow Favicon History

The hosts conclude the show with a discussion of the "Dog Cow" favicon on Adam's website, a reference to early Macintosh lore. Adam prepares to fly out of San Francisco on JetBlue, while John remains in Silicon Valley. They remind listeners to support the show and sign off with their traditional "Adios Mofo" catchphrase.

dog cow· apple· san francisco· jetblue· adios mofo

2:26:21 Punchy that's how Gary Johnson if he ever runs again. He has to have the curry DeVore I consulting group work Yeah, you could do worse than listen to us But yeah You've talked to him yourself and I said dude and he got out listening to eat doesn't buy it as far as he's concerned he did he became the governor of New Mexico on a simple boring cut you know type of pitch and he's gonna be You know, he's just this... He thinks it's great. He's a bicyclist! That's another thing you know? It's bad. Oh really? A bicyclist hmmm So for end of show I here's the report I'd like to hear. You got a sequence for me here okay what do we have? Yeah a sequence alright Number one would be Nader on the defense budget Okay hold on let me line it up Defense Budget yep

2:27:08 number two would you then we have to just take a break and go with the little short one on gary johnson on voting libertarian of this it was this is like uh... uh... a mashup yes ok gotcha i was almost gonna produce a bit i said i can do that this will be fun for use as true in history do it now then they begin doing and then the big finish his nadir on congress which i think is a really good finish and then you can't do your own but you can do a little riffing with the devorek.org, whatever you like to do or adios mofos you know your great at these little deals in the end so I think that will work it's really you know is the sucking up to me is not going to help it really is not good you are SO GOOD AT THAT! It is not...it really isn't gonna help well never mind

2:28:02 Alright everybody, so we didn't get to a couple things but it doesn't matter because It's doesn't matter because by the time we hit the next show. We'll have an entirely new news cycle We will have a new president Or at least that we all have elected a president whether it is a new one Highly doubtful but we will have a president Will it be a leader? No no matter who we vote for uh... but i'm gonna enter when you're done that have to ask you a question that's got nothing to do with the election began yet and we are all fair or are really doing now is doing now i'm looking at the two pound point dot curry dot com and you have a fabric on of this small goat it's not a good it is the dog cow

2:28:57 Now you would not recognize this because in the days when the dog cow was famous, you thought that it was highly unlikely people would want to use the Macintosh. Because of the mouse... You don't recognize the dog cow? No, it looks like a small goat. Do you know what the dog cow is? No I don't know what the dog cow is So when you use the mouse on the original Mac and These days we have this spinning beach ball The mac 128k yeah It goes back that far so you know today We have the spinning beach ball

2:29:39 Yeah, you got a ball spinning. Back in the day you had that little dog and when uh... the Mac was waiting for something to some process to finish The dog would do back flips And that is the history of the Dog Cow Okay and your using it as a favicon why? Because Oh okay good enough So that's it from the hotel room here in San Francisco Sorry for some of the sound quality issues, etc. But no matter what is going on our lives We always intend to bring you a show because it must always your flight out leaving at 5 o'clock So I'm packing up and jumping out immediately. Okay? Well have a nice flight Hey

2:30:23 Hey, thanks. And of course San Francisco we're going to once again try getting to the priority line with our coach ticket. San Francisco may be hard though they're not easy about that stuff so we'll see how we do here. Yeah it's kind of you know they got a whole bunch of douchebags checking in. Wait wait what airline? JetBlue! Oh JetBlue, that's in the international terminal. You have to know that right? Yeah! There may be a priority line there... But they got all kinds of douchebags checking the priority line. They have a lot of douchebags at San Francisco. The whole place is douchebag. Good luck. Well I will tweet so you'll all know and uh... Please please please consider us this week yeah and what are you gonna do

2:31:13 What am I gonna do? Yeah, what are you going to do? Uh... Ford is picking up my electric car. I have to wait for them. So yeah that's the end of that Right and that's gonna be in your little uh giblet your monogram there It's gonna be another yes it's gonna be not another one of these almost finished projects Okay And i would recommend buying My Son's Mystery Maybe you could write Hot Diggity Dead. Hot Diggity Dead. There ya go. And then maybe I wanted to pay him to do the work he does here, that's not gonna happen. No that's definitely not gonna happen. Probably want more money.

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Ralph Nader and Gary Johnson End-of-Show Mashup

The episode ends with a series of clips from Ralph Nader and Gary Johnson. Nader calls for a reduction in the $800 billion military budget and criticizes the power of Congress. Johnson encourages voters to "vote libertarian just this one time" to escape the current "tyranny." The segment highlights the marginalization of third parties in the US political system.

ralph nader· gary johnson· military budget· congress· gerrymandering

2:31:50 All right, coming to you from the hotel room here in San Francisco in the great People's Republic of Northern California. In the morning everybody I am Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I remain John C Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here for you on No Agenda So we need that. That is the way to create good paying jobs that are real, that actually improve life in every community in America We need to get funds for this by reducing our military budget Do you know our military budget is higher in real dollars than it was during the Cold War? When were facing Soviet missiles

2:32:41 It's now $800 billion including the wars of choice in Iraq and Afghanistan. By the way, 70% of American people won out of Afghanistan yesterday If we cut that military budget which is now 800 billion to 6, 5, 4 General McPeak, retired of the Air Force said a while back if we can't defend the USA on 300 billion dollars you better get a new set of generals. We liberate that money, we bring those soldiers from those bases all over the world of our empire

2:33:19 We're just agitating and making people hate us, including our allies like in Okinawa. When and why did you leave the Republican Party to become a libertarian? Well you know I've probably been a libertarian my entire life so this is kind of coming out of the closet But I don't think that I'm unlike most Americans. I think there are a lot more Americans in this country that declare themselves libertarian as opposed to voting libertarian, so you know the pitch and i'm trying to make right now is vote libertarian with me just this one time give me a shot at changing things and if it doesn't work out you can always return to tyranny and I'm going argue that's what we have right now

2:34:04 Congress is the most powerful branch of our three branches. They don't use some of that power, but they have the taxing power, the spending power, the war declaration power, the investigating power, the confirmation power on and on. They are the smallest branch of our government We do not have to deal with millions of executive branch employees we don't have to deal with judges there for life in a courtroom We deal with little Congress. 535 men and women who put on their shoes every day like you and I do, and they dream every day of getting votes but they've figured out that the way to get votes

2:34:54 is first to gerrymander districts so that either the Democrat wins easily or the Republican wins easily, sometimes without even an opponent. Have you heard of Speaker John Boehner? Here's how smart the Democrats are They have made sure that in Southwest Ohio John Boehner does not have a Democratic opponent So it's pretty easy for most these people get re-elected A lot of them have no opponents. More of them have nominal opponents, of the major party! Never mind the Green Party or Libertarian Party, Justice Party, Constitution Party... They know how to marginalize small parties, keep em out of debates, wear em down with obstacles

2:35:45 So, what are we doing about our member of Congress? Adios mofo. Right right RIGHT?! NO THAT'S NOT RIGHT! Celebrating moonshine by no agenda The best podcast in the universe! Civorac dot org slash N-A