Episode 438 · Sunday, 26 August 2012

Social Media Weapons

Military commanders and intelligence whistleblowers reveal how social media platforms and classified cyber initiatives have transformed the modern landscape of global surveillance and asymmetric warfare.

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About this episode

Major General Richard P. Mills and DARPA officials are redefining modern warfare through the deployment of social media weapons and the classified Plan X cyber strategy. Mills detailed how U.S. forces in Afghanistan now utilize digital platforms to infect enemy command networks, replacing traditional kinetic signals with targeted Facebook and Twitter operations. This shift toward a digital battlespace coincides with DARPA's efforts to streamline online strikes into a routine military function.

NSA whistleblower William Binney revealed that the Stellar Wind program has successfully mapped the social graphs of American citizens by harvesting data from banking, phone records, and voluntary Facebook posts. Domestically, the NYPD intelligence division faced exposure after a 911 call led to a New Brunswick safe house used for local surveillance. Meanwhile, the Department of Justice redesigned its website to feature common law quotes while omitting references to the U.S. Constitution, and the FBI issued warnings regarding anarchist threats ahead of the Republican National Convention in Tampa. In the private sector, pharmaceutical giants like Eli Lilly are partnering with General Peter Corelli to rebrand PTSD as a biological condition, a move critics claim is designed to expand long-term drug markets.

From the Empire State Building shooting where Commissioner Ray Kelly confirmed police fragments struck nine bystanders to the BBC using unverified opposition footage in Syria, the media landscape remains fraught with narrative manipulation. The episode captures the absurdity of the era through a mock Taylor Swift voice-over audition and the introduction of the rain stick experiment, which listeners claim successfully triggered storms across the United States. Producers Gary Simunich and Brian Ferguson receive knighthoods as the show tracks a No Agenda demolition derby car numbered 33.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Department of Justice Website Redesign, Common Law Banner

The Department of Justice website underwent a redesign, replacing the American flag banner with a challenge coin and a script quote regarding common law. The new banner states that common law is the "will of mankind issuing from the life of the people," which draws criticism for omitting references to the U.S. Constitution. The visual aesthetic is described as low-action with a gray and black color scheme.

department of justice· justice.gov· common law· challenge coin· website redesign

00:00 This is Taylor Swift. Posing as a member of Pussy Riot in the capital of the drone star state, it's Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where...I have a bell! I'm John C. DeMora. It is Crackpot & Buzzkill in the morning! Now I'm sorry, I had a cowbell before you had a cowbell? I don't think so. Yeah oh dude, cowbell on- Dude! Cowbell on The Daily Source Code is legendary

00:43 It's legendary! You had the... Oh yeah, it's on Wikipedia. Yes it says Cowbell often used in daily source code. They better start writing it in then. Hey you ought to go hey Adam go to Justice.gov Yeah oh gee what do you see there on their newly invented website John? I don't know what do you say they've changed it. They used to have a top banner with an American flag and everything now We have a bit we have a challenge coin Yeah, what does it say out there at the top? The common law is the will of mankind issuing from the life of the people hells that's a thank-you Thank you That's bullcrap Is that what our law is now the common law is the will of mankind whether just say of the United Nations That would make me feel more comfortable instead of trying to hide it

01:33 Read it again and tell me what it really means. The common law is the will of mankind, which is in big bold letters that are script issuing from the life, big bold letters of the people, big bold letters issued from the life of the people so wait a minute... It's the will of mankind issuing from the life, the life What happened to this mean? What happens to the Constitution Shouldn't that be up there? Well, not they're gonna have pictures of holder all over the place But seriously their redesign this website didn't dig it you're right. They got the challenge coin up there I don't know what the hell that thing is Let me click on it doesn't do anything and it's all like black and kind of low-action not really black It's what does it like gray? Gray black its black black and grey Graham black yeah

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Spanish Language Commands for Law Enforcement Encounters

A produced audio clip features a series of Spanish language commands intended for beginners interacting with authorities. The phrases include instructions to show a passport, raise hands, and exit vehicles. The segment concludes with a satirical translation of "Tell me your complete and correct name" followed by a joke about citizenship and slavery.

spanish lesson· law enforcement· gitmo nation· translation· police commands

02:31 And the common law is the will of mankind. That's just weird, actually I should have done this what was it before? Because i've been to... I go to the... Go look it up on yeah, T-Shirt. Let's go to archive.org Wayback Machine Yeah because I look at Justice.gov a lot and like wow man this thing changed so I'm just gonna back random to February 3rd let's see oh no this is sometimes this way back machine doesn't work right Here's the criminal justice system as a counter-terrorism tool. There is Justice.gov in Espanol Oh, by the way while we're on it I was sent an official no agenda let me see if i have it here somewhere No Agenda Spanish lesson oh cool yeah would you like to hear it yes because this is something that I think is very handy for all of these slaves of Gitmo Nation

03:37 A following is a group of commands that may be helpful to the beginner. Los siguientes comandos asistirán al principiante. Some are given with reflexive pronouns which will be explained later Algunas tienen pronombres reflexivos, los cuales explicaremos más tarde Show me your passport Enseñeme su pasaporte Raise your hands Alce las manos Get out of the train Bájese del tren Get out of the car Get out of the car. Stop! Relax your hand. Here it comes... Tell me the truth. Show me the trail. Tell me your complete and correct name Of what country are you a citizen? Hey, citizen! Shut up slave!

04:38 God this is clavo. You know that'd been a lot more entertaining if you weren't giggling at your own material I'm not giggling at my material, i'm giggling at the guy doing the translation So how did you get this? Who's this guy? One of our producers sent it in Oh, he just clipped from the old... Yeah I clipped from the show and put it together. You actually recorded that? No no no That would constitute work. That's what i was thinking! Wow! I'm not gonna do work. Ever since you showed your production skills people have been sending me in all kinds of stuff like this Now that's a gun John. That's a gun sounder It'll be coming very handy for our reports about uh the Free Syrian Army

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Evergreen Clip of the Day, Rain Stick Experiment

A new recurring feature titled "Evergreen Clip of the Day" is introduced, featuring a brief audio snippet of a man sighing. The discussion shifts to the "rain stick experiment," where a host claims responsibility for recent rainfall in Austin and a tropical storm heading toward the Republican National Convention. The efficacy of the rain stick is compared to previous claims regarding HAARP weather modification.

evergreen clip· rain stick· weather modification· silicon valley· austin

05:29 So look, I feel bad about this... About this bad production deal. But i've decided to introduce a new feature Oh! Which will soon have a jingle no doubt Okay what's the new feature? It's called Evergreen Clip of the Day Evergreen clip of the day alright do I just go straight into it Yeah hit it That looks great What is that?! That was it Yeah but what was it Somebody's saying that's great and a guy sighing. Oh, okay Wow John I you know you must have been up late Burning the midnight oil eh? Wow okay

06:19 Well better before I went over the eye. I must have I'm gonna have to equalize some of these things a little bit more Yeah, yeah just a little bit well anyway in the morning to you John Charles Dvorak In the morning to you Adam curry in the morning at all ships and sea boots on the ground Subs in the water feet in the air and in the morning a great in the mornings all our fantastic nights who support this show as well as any one could expect yes, and all of our Artists who are tirelessly working for us and all the rains in the sticks Which we'll be talking about in our donation segment as the rain stick experiment has been somewhat successful Yeah, but not there. In Austin? It's been raining off and on for days! It has?! Yeah well not crazy rain... It did rain here Did I make it rain in Silicon Valley where you said it never rains No, it didn't rain Oh, I thought you said it DID rain

07:14 No, I'm sorry. It didn't rain. Well of course you're hearing things now well of course what really did happen is You know I shook that stick all the way from Salt Lake City and and that of course caused it normally do that anyway Yeah yeah And that of course caused the the tropical storm now headed towards the Republican National Convention pretty sure I'm responsible for that Normally, I would have blamed it on harp Hey, that's just the good news about the stick. Is there no more harp? No we have to listen to the harp bullcrap and listen to the stick bullcrap I've been watching so a couple of things happening if you have to understand what's going on

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Republican National Convention Rules, Ron Paul Delegate Dispute

The Republican National Convention in Tampa faces delays due to weather, while internal party conflicts emerge regarding Ron Paul's delegates. The RNC reportedly changed nomination rules, increasing the requirement from five states to ten states to prevent Paul from being nominated from the floor. Media outlets are forced to improvise coverage as the official schedule is pushed back by one day.

rnc· ron paul· mitt romney· delegates· tampa

07:56 In the media in America, it's very funny because everyone was all prepared. You know we've got this big convention in Florida and Tampa where there is a big show where we all pretend like were going to nominate Romney and of course its already set in stone and theres lots of stories about how Ron Paul has gotten completely screwed over this whole deal and now because of the tropical... I don't even know that he got a speaking gig like they demanded. Well what happened is, you know they changed the rules it's very interesting if you're interested in order to get rid of his delegates they literally just said you're no longer delegate in like five states or something even more than that They just changed the rules so apparently there's this rule

08:51 be nominated from the floor. It's a complicated process, you have to have delegates in at least five states and Ron Paul of course has delegates in five states even though they tried to remove these delegates and then they said well we have a new rule it has to be ten States instead of five and there was this big fight and apparently that is changed something somehow anyway so she screwed So the media, you know they're all set up. They've got their trucks down there. They're flying Anderson Poopers on the jet and everybody's good to go and like oh...

09:32 We don't have any, no lineup for Sunday night. You know it's delayed one an extra day C-SPAN of course you know they all they could do is just roll out hours and hours of previous RNC convention speeches which I have to say i watched some of it did you watch any of the old speeches? God No! It was very interesting because its all the same stuff like freedom American way And just a bunch of douchebag elites, just in black and white instead of color. But of course you know it's a problem and so we gotta... I can just see the newsrooms like what are we gonna do? Hey man! We got to improvise! You gotta package?! Yeah I've got a package. Explain what a package is John

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

CNN Coverage of Strip Clubs, Republican Convention Spending

CNN aired a produced "package" report regarding the adult entertainment industry's expectations for the Republican National Convention. An informal survey by the Association of Club Executives suggests that Republicans spend significantly more at adult clubs—averaging $150 per person—compared to $50 for Democrats. Club dancers in Tampa expressed optimism about high earnings during the event.

cnn· strip clubs· rnc· spending habits· adult industry

10:20 A package is a separately produced piece that's dropped in during your report. So you'll bring your reporter on and say, well I'm in Lebanon blah blah blah blah blah... And then they'll cut to the package which is something he actually sat down and edited and produced and did a voiceover. Right. Generally speaking you can spot these things because the voice of the guy who produced the package changes. This is a pet peeve of mine, by the way. Somewhat. Yeah you've talked about this in the past It's annoying and I've seen people produce packages and they'll be out in the field and they got a lavalier on them yacking away And then they go to the package and then they sound like this Because they're working a big expensive mic in a soundproof booth and even if they run You know kind of ambience behind them which they like to do Which is where you record just as sound in the area it still doesn't sound right? But I don't know why they don't produce the package with the exact same voice. It's always baffled me anyway, so this package

11:17 comes out blah, blah, blah and it ends. And then you come back to the unit to the guy who's out there reporting back to you Brian Wolf wolf wolf wolf so uh Wolf had to introduce all these packages now can you guess what package was that one that caught my eye I don't know what packages they showed, but what? A massive storm that could become a hurricane. Isaac may or may not bear down on Tampa But the Florida City is sprucing up anyway and that includes The Strip Club! Wooo! John Zarella's joining us now with more of what's going on at our convention. Strip clubs explain Explain why all the anticipation well an adult industry trade association says the Republicans spend the money

12:05 An informal survey by the Association of Club Executives. Informal survey, this is the news that CNN is bringing you. Wait a minute let me get this right. Yeah informal survey. Strippers strip clubs informal survey found that... I cut this down from four minutes by the way During their conventions in Minnesota and New York Republicans spent $150 per person at adult clubs The Democrats only fifty dollars per person in Boston and Denver Keep RC told us it's focused on having a great convention and nominating Mitt Romney. By the way, this will hurt you when you hear the numbers. Club dancers are counting on the supposed big dollar Republicans to make it rain dollars. GoGo, she is one in the middle thinks this will be bigger than the Super Bowls she has worked. A thousand dollars an hour? That would be like... I'm really optimistic. A thousand an hour?! Yeah that would be... For like how many hours?

13:02 Um, well I'll work as long as my body can take. That's just like us! John will do the show... I'll work here as long as my body can take it. It's $3000 an hour I would think. John C. Dvorak Adam Curry will work as long as our bodies can take it and that is what we are going to do So yeah the Republicans spend more they're not like the chintzy Democrats by the way The chintzy Democrats most of time obviously try to stiff them as they saw with the Secret Service They won't even pay 50 bucks. Yeah, they would say I'm not gonna give you that now so there was another package and this one is also had to cut it down severely but Besides strippers what else can we expect in?

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

FBI Intelligence Bulletin, Anarchist Threats and Anonymous

An intelligence bulletin from the FBI and DHS warns of potential anarchist threats targeting political conventions in Tampa and Charlotte. The report claims extremists from New York planned to close major bridges and target infrastructure outside the security perimeter. CNN's coverage included a computer-generated voice representing the group Anonymous, though officials admitted there was no specific, actionable threat.

fbi· homeland security· anarchists· anonymous· cnn

13:41 Do you think at the Republican National Convention in Florida? Well, there's obviously strippers and limos are the two big things in all these conventions. Yeah yeah but that's not it I don't know what good eating good food some gourmet meals some nice Bordeaux wine maybe some California Cabernet served at their proper temperature Isaac certainly isn't the only potential threat authorities are watching in Tampa. The other serious concern, anarchists! Anarchists? It's the exact same lead-in too I should play him side by side hold on a second this is that's really funny It's the exact same lead in. He goes from Isaac, here listen to this, here is the stripper one.

14:30 The strip clubs. Isaac certainly isn't the only potential threat authorities are watching in Tampa, the other serious concern... Anarchists! It's the same lead-in! It's the same guy! They have a lot of variety in writing. Anarchists! Anarchists all over the place. Here they come! Let's listen to the package on anarchists In an intelligence bulletin obtained by CNN, the FBI and Department of Homeland Security warned... I'm sorry. What she meant to say was in a propaganda document expressly given to CNN by the Department of Ministry of Truth and Propaganda State and local law enforcement that anarchists are targeting the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte North Carolina Now what is an anarchist? Because there's a difference between a terrorist and an anarchist

15:19 You can look it up on the Wikipedia, but anarchist obviously is a person that believes in no government. Right? Technically and but they tend to be so disorganized that they can't really accomplish anything in it, but they like to cause trouble. But don't anarchists typically wear scarves and riot helmets? And go pig you pig! Well they do that... They throw bottles and stuff? They throw garbage cans through windows right? Right. But they're not typically using IEDs and stuff do you think? I wouldn't know. I don't think they have the wherewithal to use an IED if they wanted to Oh, you didn't receive the memo from Department of Homeland Security No, no, I get my State Department memo Watch! I love that there is nothing better than accentuating a package report

16:20 With some sound effects, of course you didn't see the video but they actually cut to an explosion in the desert. So this is what's going to happen in Tampa by the way I think that in fact the anarchists were all discussing IUDs and yeah exactly so just incase there are any anarchist who show up there in Florida You know the kind of guys who throw bottles and shoot AK-47s just like Afghanistan See, that's how you do a report. The Bulletin says since March the FBI has had intelligence indicating that individuals from New York plan to travel to Tampa and attempt to close all of the Tampa Bay Area bridges during the convention next week. The groups are likely to focus on critical infrastructure outside of the security perimeter, the Bulletin says because they expect the main venue to be tightly controlled

17:19 Extremists have a history of trying to disrupt major events. Now these are extremist now so we're ramping it up. They've changed! But wait, but wait because you know what anarchism is actually synonymous for something else. She'll mention it in a moment It's very apparent like the G20 meeting in Pittsburgh in 2009 using tactics like blocking streets intersections and bridges walk that street you anarchist! And sparking violent confrontations with police. Our mission is to ensure that everyone has a safe platform on which to express themselves Thursday in an undisclosed location, the Secret Service showed reporters their multi-agency communications center. It's like a press gaggle they're all sitting there in the undisclosed location, their top secret command center where law enforcement officials will coordinate their operation to keep Tampa safe during the convention

18:15 Extremists claim they're ready too. Here it comes! You have an opportunity to fight back at the Republican National Convention Apparently extremists are a computer-generated voice now What? Yeah, yeah Is that... That's anonymous of course They show the picture of the anonymous mask The, uh... you know. Uh, V for Vendetta. And then they ran a computer and they ran Doug? Doug is an extremist dammit! How you fight back is up to you Now a law enforcement official tells CNN there is no specific threat to the convention At the end of the package bull crap The whole packages junk and they're not watching any specific anarchists what happened in New York extremist I don't understand now They think might be trying to mount an attack, but they do say they have to be prepared based on anyone watch this crap

19:13 Well, hello I'll do that until my body gives out John. That's what we do here On what they learned the lessons they learned at the Republican Convention four years ago and also on an alleged anarchist plot this spring in which a bridge near Cleveland was supposed to be blown up and there were by the way Wolf arrests in Yeah. What, did it get blown up? That case. I remember that case so thanks very much Joe Daugherty and yeah I remember that case from the last acting class I took. What a crock of crap this is just its humiliation the public of course nobody watches CNN but there's enough people at your place to watch it makes it dangerous. I watch for the messaging its really important

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

DARPA Plan X, Secret Cyber Warfare Strategy

DARPA unveiled a new classified project called "Plan X," designed to make cyber warfare a routine component of U.S. military operations. Unlike the Stuxnet virus, Plan X focuses on creating a platform to dominate the "cyber battle space" through streamlined online strikes. The project aims to provide the military with more accessible tools for digital conflict.

darpa· plan x· cyber warfare· pentagon· stuxnet

19:57 It's important. It's important to watch because then at least you know what the memo was I mean, did you see the memo? No Did you receive it won't send us them You know we could probably get on the press release That would be cool Look into it getting onto some of those mailing lists and I'll get that I'll get the memo sure Sure John pretty liberal sending this stuff out by the way I want to say in the morning to the chat room all of our human resources they're lined up charged up ready-to-go which is nice to see once again even in the dog days of summer Now you mentioned that, there's... it seems that they're getting a little more liberal in general on telling us about stuff that I think normally we wouldn't know. For instance now this of course was from Danger Room which is a spokeshole portion of wired.com for the military industrial complex

20:58 I don't know if you saw this report. Pentagon maybe what yeah DARPA looks to make cyber war routine with secret plan X I mean they really need new writers over a danger room the pentagon top research arm is unveiling a new classified cyber warfare project But it's not about building the next Stuxnet. DARPA swears, instead that just introduced Plan X is—couldn't they come up with a better name? Is designed to make online strikes a more routine part of U.S. military operations that will make the son of Stuxnet easier to pull off to as DARPA puts it dominate the cyber battle space

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

General Richard Mills, Social Media Weapons in Afghanistan

Major General Richard P. Mills discussed the convergence of physical resistance and "social media weapons" during a speech on cyber warfare. Mills detailed his experience in Afghanistan, where he utilized cyber operations to infect enemy command and control networks. He noted that modern adversaries have replaced crude communication methods, like burning tires, with focused digital tools like Facebook and Twitter.

general richard mills· cybercom· social media· afghanistan· marine corps

21:40 So I read that piece and I'm like, okay. Yeah whatever but then I saw on Stars and Stripes which is yeah it used to be maybe still as a paper stars might be yeah so they have I think it's stripes calm or stars stripes calm They had a speech by General Mills and this would cornflakes Hey, yeah exact that general mills Richard P Mills who is a major general and he was, he's a Marine. He was... And very well loved marine I might say. The uh.. He was selected to the command of the Marine Expeditionary Force it's you know kind of the forward operating guys deployed Afghanistan in April 2010 and he took control of all cybercom initiatives that were taking place there and he had like a 20 minute speech

22:37 all about the importance of cyber warfare and how the Marines have used it. And I think he said something here that typically if you're a subordinate, you would not be allowed to talk about this in public and it was surprising to me that he mentioned it but his whole speech...and this is a guy You know, who probably doesn't know how to work his BlackBerry. Because you can tell just in the things he's saying which makes it even that more funny when he is the guy with his hand on the Cyber Project X button or whatever the hell it is. I know the type This is very interesting to listen him speak. I've cut this down to a minute and half We recognize that in cyber domain we're in period of convergence

23:19 If you look at events like the Arab Spring, the common theme there is both a combination of physical resistance to the state and being but also the use of new social media weapons. Social media weapons! Wow! That's right baby I got my Twitter pointed at you bitch and i'm loaded with social media weapons To exploit that resistance movement Social media, streamlining video. Streamlining video? This is new! We gotta get on that tip John He said streamlining vid- Streamlining Video Wait but there's more This guy doesn't know anything obviously if he says that It's streamlining Streamlining Video Hey he's the Major General shut up he's loved Streamlining video The YouTube THE YOUTUBE! THE YOUTUBE!

24:13 The YouTube! Hey citizen, put down that YouTube. It's not a rain stick Major General We've all seen the use has been made to overthrow dictators and to be used against forces Not unfriendly to the resistance fighters As Bob Dylan once told me, he said the times are changing. That's like you making a Green Day reference I mean please The times they are changing Thank You Major General Did he tell you that personally or did you hear the song? He says as Bob Dylan told me! I was hanging out with Bob one day and Bob said hey general The times they are a-changing And then the general said Wait a minute general I think i've got this could be a song This should be in tune

25:01 Remember that during joint operations in Somalia in the early 90s, the preferred method of communication for our adversaries the Somali warlords was the burning stack of tires. This method was not very precise... You okay? Isn't that good isn't this fantastic it's unbelievable but it was very visible it was easy to use and it made sense to him If you were on the ground in those days, you could see that. But are those that smoke in the sky? Yeah! Telling you or telling the enemy that you're on your way That was confusing It worked Well today those very crude forms of communication are being replaced with more focused individual forms communication that blended with routine daily conversations Much more difficult to see much more difficult to know that he knows your coming

25:57 He works in chat rooms. He works on blogs, he tweets, he uses Facebook. This is where they are! The enemy uses Facebook? He tweets with his social media weapon... All of which is a challenge to us I'm troubled by recent reports have intercepted UAV feeds that demonstrates that even the low-end technology available some of our adversaries can be used within a network to exploit and disrupt, and destroy. When you read the reports that we see in the daily papers, there are critical national infrastructures being exploited. We understand this threat is both foreign and domestic, both from state non-state and from terrorist organizations. I can tell you as a commander on Afghanistan... Afghanistan! Yeah that's what he was supposed to say by the way He says it consistently throughout the whole speech Afghanistan It's Iran Iraq and Afghanistan

27:17 Afghanistan now listen this is what I wanted you to hear, what he says about his experience in Afghanistan that i don't think it's appropriate for him to say but anyway. I was able to use my cyber operations against the at my adversary with great impact and was able to get inside his nets who's that inside my net? What are you doing in my nets bitch Infect his command and control, and in fact defend myself against his almost constant incursions to get inside my wire. Get out of my wire! To affect my operations That's- I think that's big that he said that So basically we've in 2010 He was performing cyber warfare getting inside the enemy's nets What nets? The enemies nets

28:07 His nets! What nets? His wires. It's a bunch of... Have you ever seen these reports from the field in Afghanistan? Afghanistan These guys can't even shoot a gun! Afghanistan Yeah, well I'm not using that one. I don't want your care. I like it. I think it's good. Afghanistan Get out of my wa- You know he should call Bob Dylan and say, Bob, every time I gave you that great idea for the song, I think you should do a new one Get out of my wire get out of my wire. Yeah, I'm a net set of my nets bitch It's crazy. I got to talk to Harry Pilgrim. I think he was uh Marine Cyber Command He's retired now you might tell me some stuff yeah You should absolutely do that he's retired and he sends me notes like hey. I'm drunk Haven't found the job yet Which is kind of cool?

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

NYPD Spying Operation, New Brunswick Apartment Discovery

A 911 dispatch tape from 2009 revealed a "See Something, Say Something" report that inadvertently exposed an NYPD intelligence division safe house in New Brunswick, New Jersey. A building superintendent reported a suspicious apartment containing police radios, computers, and photos of terrorists. It was later confirmed the NYPD was using the location as a base to spy on local citizens.

nypd· spying· new brunswick· surveillance· fbi

29:06 So now let's since we're talking about this sort of thing the spying on everything did this story That's the funniest. I think I've heard I mean you can't not want to stop laughing About the actual backfiring of if you see something say something yeah, you can play the theme for me Okay Okay, so I have this. This is a this was a 9-1-1 report Because you have to if you see something you say something right yes Well play this and here's what could happen to you. Here's what can happen under these circumstances well now You need to help me with which one it is It says If you see something say something yeah But then you should

29:54 I don't have that. Oh, we should just do SSSS came across the apartment where there's some suspicious activity and which is suspicious in the sense that the apartment has about No furniture except two beds. Has no clothing, has New York City Police Department radios. There's computers in there. Computer hardware software you know just laying around. There are pictures of terrorists. There are pictures of our neighboring buildings that they have. In New Brunswick? Yes

30:40 On the tape from June 2009, the building and superintendent in New Jersey told the 911 dispatcher he discovered a suspicious apartment as part of this routine check. Adam talk more about this Well, this was an apartment in New Brunswick, New Jersey that the NYPD intelligence division had been using as a base of operations to essentially spy on citizens of New Jersey. Because they were breathing? So apparently...

31:16 So apparently this was all suppressed until recently, this guy got all of this information. And so apparently because they sent out the sealant it's a suspicious activity cause they've got terrorist pictures and they've got no clothes just beds... The FBI was called out and police were called out to surround the place and catch the bad guys Well this doesn't surprise me It doesn't surprise me this is happening because we're now ramming it into our children's heads from a very young age. Witness this local news report from North Carolina That 10 to 15 minute school bus ride really does determine the rest of a child's day If it's chaotic, if they're afraid, if they are being picked on then what about the child that says they are walking to the bus stop and doesn't come to school?

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Anti-Bullying Ads, School Bus Surveillance

Winston-Salem Forsyth County Schools in North Carolina are implementing anti-bullying advertisements on school buses. The campaign utilizes the "See Something, Say Something" slogan, encouraging students to call a dedicated phone number to report peer harassment. The initiative aims to reduce chaos and fear during the daily commute for students.

bullying· school bus· winston-salem· surveillance· see something say something

30:40 On the tape from June 2009, the building and superintendent in New Jersey told the 911 dispatcher he discovered a suspicious apartment as part of this routine check. Adam talk more about this Well, this was an apartment in New Brunswick, New Jersey that the NYPD intelligence division had been using as a base of operations to essentially spy on citizens of New Jersey. Because they were breathing? So apparently...

31:16 So apparently this was all suppressed until recently, this guy got all of this information. And so apparently because they sent out the sealant it's a suspicious activity cause they've got terrorist pictures and they've got no clothes just beds... The FBI was called out and police were called out to surround the place and catch the bad guys Well this doesn't surprise me It doesn't surprise me this is happening because we're now ramming it into our children's heads from a very young age. Witness this local news report from North Carolina That 10 to 15 minute school bus ride really does determine the rest of a child's day If it's chaotic, if they're afraid, if they are being picked on then what about the child that says they are walking to the bus stop and doesn't come to school?

32:06 And with that in mind, Winston-Salem Forsyth County Schools they're placing anti bullying ads on their buses using the slogan see something say something. Kids will be able to call the phone number that you see on that ad to report bullying There ya go! Wow. Uh-huh! You taught me I knew i would Well you missed it on that one You fell into my trap, I wasn't even ready to roll it out yet So in the same regard... This Empire State shooting The Empire State Building shooting Yeah this thing was uh... Well I agree That I have a bunch of little clips Okay They tried to make it into a story when in fact It was a murder

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Empire State Building Shooting, Police Friendly Fire

A shooting near the Empire State Building involving disgruntled worker Jeffrey Johnson resulted in two deaths and nine injuries. NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly later confirmed that all nine bystanders were struck by fragments or bullets fired by police officers rather than the perpetrator. Media coverage was criticized for framing the event as a "mass shooting" to promote gun control narratives.

empire state building· ray kelly· jeffrey johnson· nypd· mass shooting

32:54 Yeah, it was absolutely a murder. One guy with a gun decided to kill somebody he hates and in the process the police end up shooting a bunch of people No I would say they ended up shooting everyone including the guy Well, when they shot the shooter but the shooter had already shot his target. Yeah but then all the wounds... And he would have been out of there because if you listen to the report well here let's play a couple these clips and we'll talk about it. Okay Let's start with Empire State real story shooting state shooting let's start with Empire State shooting

33:34 Okay, that's the intro. In New York today a gunman opened fire near the Empire State Building at the height of this morning's rush hour The shooter killed one person and nine were injured before police shot the disgruntled worker dead The BBC's Michelle Fleury has the details from New York Mayhem surrounded one of the world's best-known landmarks, the Empire State Building today after the third mass shooting in the US this summer. Oh right... Did you hear that? Yeah, the third mass shooting in the U.S. this summer but can I just play Ray Kelly? I don't know if you have Ray Kelly. Do you have Ray Kelly? He came in at the end. I think I left him out go ahead okay so this mass shooting was perpetrated by the New York City Police Department and he admits it

34:22 As far as the nine people, other than of course the two... The victim who was shot on 33rd Street obviously he was shot by the perpetrator. But it appears that all nine of the victims were struck either by fragments or bullets fired by the police. So the police had this mass shooting on their conscience? Yeah! Yeah, but we it was so the BBC's got this story and they have to propagate the anti-gun formula. War on ammo of course So is the war on ammo? So they come out with these these that so the packages come out and it's like are you kidding me play Empire State shooting so called witness

35:07 I found a couple of these too, i like this. A construction worker who witnessed the incident described the chaos We can see right now we saw everything we saw all the bodies laid out, we saw all the cops coming... ...we saw all the bullets on the floor Everything Oh! The cops were still coming He didn't see anything. He says, I saw yeah i saw the uh somebodies...I saw this..i saw that This is not telling us anything! This was like a bull crap witness and then it gets worse with this scary oh let's terrorize the public little package Empire State could have been me clip others were relieved just to be alive

35:43 I heard multiple gunshots and I heard one single gunshot, and then It was pretty surreal because there was no screaming. There is it was just slow motion? I said the girl that was running next to me go down and That could have been made she's hitting the leg Could've been may could have been may issues in the leg I Had a witness I had a witness who changed her story later on Fox this oh yeah This is you know this is how it works when You know, you do all these pre-interviews and you get people on. And the producer essentially coerces or tells you what to say Here's the witness at first when she is first on air on Fox News

36:26 outside the Empire State Building, but for now here is what Jackie experienced on her walk today one hour ago. I was crossing the street and someone actually fell at my feet because they were shot. I didn't realize that at the time and I kept walking and I looked around People like laying around all on the street. Okay, so I kept walking after this lady fell down Then she comes back on the air later her story has changed What did you tell them Jackie? I just recounted my experience as I was crossing the street. I heard four gunshots a woman fell at my feet and I honestly got nervous and

37:14 And it's hidden behind a planter for a little while. When the gunshot started, I got back up and tried to help the woman prop her head up." So first she basically steps over the lady... Which is probably what happened in New York! Yeah of course, whatever. And then she says, well I tried to prop her head up, I try to comfort her you know? I hid behind a thing That's terrible. Yeah, well... Anyway so I have the new what i consider the real story kind of or the one that can be easily deconstructed to be the joke story which is Empire State Real Story clip Dressed in a business suit 53 year old Jeffrey Johnson shot dead a former colleague before being killed by police In a shootout in which nine others were injured He pulled his .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol from his bag

38:06 and fired on the officers who returned fire killing him. Okay, so here's what happened The guy shoots his buddy or some guy he had to kill So he shoots him Now he puts this gun in the bag obviously after the shooting There is somebody reports hey there is a guy that shots of this guy and he's laying here dead And the cops says well where is he? Says there he is that's him walking down the street with a bag And so then the cops go, they make a bunch of racket about it. They're a bunch of them come in from every which way with cops around this area. They're all over the place mostly doing what pulled not policing but looking for an opportunity like this and they stay all surround the guy in some horrible way. The guy freaks pulls his gun out because that's what that's what they say. And because he pulled his gun out, they started firing at him missing and downing nine citizens

39:02 I mean there's other ways of handling this. This was poor and then of course now it uses a, oh another mass killing, mass shooting which is bullcrap. Yeah. I mean this is just the media lying to us. And yeah and I think you're absolutely right there are many ways they could have handled that We still have yet to hear from the actual construction worker who alerted the police, because even during Bloomberg's press conference someone said oh this guy is a hero where is he? Next question please. So we don't even know where that guy is. I was personally, I thought it was pretty interesting how they had his name the whole situation you know an hour and a half maybe two hours after the shooting and they were releasing all that information right off the bat which is unusual since the guy's dead! And uh...and we don't really know anything about the co-worker other than I think they had lawsuits and they have restraining orders against each other so this was not going feud

40:03 Probably this guy was on shantix something like that. No seriously I mean or some you know Prozac or some other kind of Psychotropic drug yeah, he could have done the same thing with a machete How do you even get him a shitty? Get him at the hardware store there everywhere all right Do we want to play this final clip are we done well it was this final Empire State I'd do yeah Oh Oh yeah, might as well. I think this is the one that throws in a gun meme, I believe. The scourge of gun control has been at the forefront after shootings this summer at a temple in Wisconsin and a cinema in Colorado This morning midtown Manhattan had a dramatic first-hand encounter with the problem

40:52 Yeah. Michelle Fleury, BBC News Manhattan. Yeah, BBC screw you! But do you know what? Her usage is wrong which I thought that would made me laugh when i first heard this she says the scourge of gun control That means gun control itself is a scourge What's what she said! What is the definition of scourage? Well let's look it up Let's look it up on the book of knowledge Scourage Scourge so it started as a whip as well as what is a whip someone has a punishment scourged them oh huh a source of widespread dreadful affliction and devastation Scourge scourge a means of inflicting severe suffering in vengeance. Oh, so the scourge

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

BBC Syria Coverage, Unverified Opposition Footage

The BBC is criticized for its reporting on the Syrian conflict, specifically its reliance on unvetted footage provided by opposition activists. Reports of a government massacre in Derea involving 200 bodies were based entirely on opposition claims. Analysis of the video segments suggests the use of mirrored or repeated shots to simulate intense aerial bombardments.

bbc· syria· damascus· propaganda· aleppo

41:50 gun control meaning that the horrible vengeance controls the problem yeah there's your proper BBC for you yeah it's interesting you bring that up because of BBC also had a incredible bogatyr report on Syria you know they found all these bodies You read about this, right? This is the worst Saturday ever in Syrians history. 400 bodies I'm reading now. Oh it's terrible, terrible! But if you listen to the report from the BBC It's all can't vet the video alleged didn't really see it kind of we think...it's just propaganda and We've seen the bodies before which in all likelihood were old bodies they just dragged into one spot

42:38 just to make a good video shot and a good story. And now it's literally just whatever they say will print. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, that's some gunfire in there. Government heavy armor unleashing its firepower in what looks like a residential area... What looks like a residential area? You don't even know where it is! What looks like a residential area. Neighborhood of Derea on the southwestern edge of the capital Damascus, this is unverified footage. State television said Derea was being purified what it described as terrorist remnants It's all what other people describe But after days of bombardment in the area opposition activists say another government massacre has occurred here

43:22 The opposition says another government, not like we're reporting. We have evidence. They say more than 200 bodies found in houses and basements most according to them appear to have been shot at close range According to them These fleeting images are all that we can show, taken from the video released by the opposition which does appear to show many bodies lined up in a mosque. It does appear to show that! I mean this drives me crazy when i hear this This should drive everybody crazy. I'd look at it like... This is so poor And people pay for this In England They pay for this and they're proud of it The opposition says most of the victims were civilians Opposition says

44:04 Whatever pressure the Syrian government is now under in dealing with the rebels, the country's vice president has made his first public appearance in weeks. Seen here holding talks with a visiting Iranian delegation there had been rumors that the veteran senior official had defected While the government and the rebels have been battling for control in the outskirts of Damascus, this has also been a scene in recent days in the vital northern city of Aleppo. So what they do now and you have to watch this video on the show notes 438 dot NA show notes dot com They show a plane flying over

44:40 and then they cut to an explosion on the ground, they show the plane reverse angle. It's the same shot just flying in the other direction mirrored... And then they showed the same explosion again! They say well their bombing from the air." It has been another focus of continued intense clashes with Syrian Air Force also apparently heavily involved in action These scenes of destruction and what now seems like a relentless military momentum being pursued by both sides appear to leave little room or hope for diplomacy right now. Nick Childs, BBC News. Really disgusting. I mean... That's totally disgusting! As a counter play this Syria clip that i have which is the same but this is different propaganda ministry telling a different story

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Syrian State TV, UN Monitoring Team Withdrawal

Syrian state television reported on military operations against "terrorist gangs" in Aleppo, offering a counter-narrative to Western media. Meanwhile, the UN monitoring team began withdrawing from the country as President Obama and David Cameron warned of potential intervention if President Assad uses chemical weapons. The departing UN convoy was noted for using expensive, specialized vehicles.

syria· assad· chemical weapons· un monitors· aleppo

45:27 On Syrian state TV, news reports describe the operations of brave army units in Aleppo pursuing terrorist gangs and mercenaries. Here the reporter says the Syrian Army inflicted major losses and killed dozens of them From now on these glimpses of Syria's war won't be amplified by the UN monitoring team which is pulling out more of them departed today From afar President Obama and David Cameron have warned they may rethink their non-intervention strategy if president Assad dares use chemical weapons. But for opposition sympathizers, that's little comfort Yeah the old chemical weapons We haven't heard that one before There is a comment I have to make One they're in Damascus shooting some of this stuff They should have the UN guys there in one of the ritziest hotels I've ever seen on you know This part of country not in war

46:25 and it's just a beautiful place with the nice marble floors. And so then the UN guys all get in their Toyota, they had these Toyota 4x4s like Land Rover with these special mirrors and some other weird shit hooked to it that was just very weird looking car but they looked really expensive! In the convoy they just drove themselves to the airport which I suppose they put the orb to the docks and because they're not going to leave these cars behind, they're gorgeous. You know I mean this is this whole thing it's theater of the worst sort. I was just looking at the chat room Dan Barker...I got a quote him The BBC is amazing! I think Korea's wrong it had..it has its bad reporters but Newsnight is amazing! Amazing I tell you here here's how you put a BBC report together

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

BBC High-Speed Chase, Audi RS5 Promotion

A BBC report on Ben Westwood, a driver jailed for a 180-mph police chase on the M6, is characterized as a "stealth commercial" for the Audi RS5. The reporter emphasized the car's "blistering pace" and noted that standard-issue police BMWs were unable to keep up. The segment highlights the vehicle's performance over the actual criminal details of the cigarette theft gang.

bbc· audi rs5· high-speed chase· ben westwood· m6 motorway

47:16 Well, I'm here standing in Syria with some unvetted fleeting footage and oh there comes a jet! And i see the jet and it looks like... Oh yes they're definitely bombing. Yes they are definitely bombing the people of Damascus and ooh here comes a gunship-a helicopter gunship. Oh yes he's killed them too. And uh oh boy there's another airplane. Well clearly we have to get rid of him So here's so that beep while we're on the BBC the beeb so I'm watching this report and I Said after it was over. I have two parts to this This is the Audi commercial Oh No on the BBC a minute. I thought they're non-commercial well you

47:58 Well, here's the report. You tell me this isn't a commercial play part one then play part two It was a high-speed chase more at home in the movies than in real life Ben Westwood drove at speeds of up to 180 miles an hour while trying to evade police in Britain The 33 year old is the fastest driver ever to be prosecuted in the United Kingdom and today he was jailed for nine years The BBC's Jeremy Cook has the story A desperate high-speed chase. A stolen Audi burning down the M6 at speeds over 180 miles an hour Here, the driver tries to leave the motorway spots the police Stinger roadblock turns and speeds back down a slip road Going the wrong way into the face of police pursuit cars

48:54 He's going, run way down the slip! Way down the slip. The chase lasted for over an hour. The souped up Audi RS5 setting a blistering pace... Wait a minute that's completely unnecessary. We'll wait until you hear part two- That has no bearing on the story first of all a souped up Audi R5? How does he even know that? All I know is when you listen to part two, that's when it dawned on me this is an Audi commercial. The gang quickly moving in to steal cigarettes easy to shift on the black market By the time he reached this part of the M6 Westwood was already clocking a record-breaking 180 miles an hour. The standard issue BMWs in pursuit had no chance of keeping up. The court was told they almost outran the police helicopter Well first of all, okay couple things wait wait before you say that don't forget there's cigarette thieves Couple things

49:55 One if you're doing a hundred and eighty miles per hour You are out running just about every single helicopter. There is I mean that's very fast for a helicopter And i'm pretty sure they use euro copters in general Which have a max top speed of about 140 knots so it doesn't surprise me, but of course? He has twists and turns in the road but then to Say, hey new- they left the BMW in the dust. What a pussy car! My goodness That's very interesting. Well, we don't have commercials on this program instead We've opted for something known as the value for value proposition and the way we keep our show going is not by being compromised clearly as the BBC is but by Taking donations from our producers also known as our listeners And I think we have see we have at least two executive producers today I think we should mention them before you move on with the program Yeah Actually, we have to executive producers into associates who want to put up

50:56 three, four associates. Whoa! It's going on and on. Gary or Grace Simunich, I've obtained my second executive production in my knighthood. I feel obliged to tell you that I spent 25 years as a consulting meteorologist so i offer this following fact weather is climate over the long term long being 30 years it's as simple as that Give me a douche bag for my 70 or so co-workers who have absolutely no clue as to what is really going on in the good USA and karma for the US Constitution. This would be my third, give him the douche bag. Maybe this third request will make all of the difference. Keep up the good work. So I look forward to hearing what you both have to say each and every week." He's in West Chicago and he sent in 582 people. That is very cool! I'm not sure what that number means...

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, No Agenda Demo Car

The hosts acknowledge significant financial contributions from producers, including Gary Simunich and Brian Ferguson. A custom "No Agenda" demolition derby car, a Pontiac Sunfire numbered 33, is highlighted for its upcoming competition. Other listener-led initiatives mentioned include the registration of the "Curry Dvorak" domain and motorcycle racing sponsorships.

donations· executive producers· knighthood· v-moda· demolition derby

49:55 One if you're doing a hundred and eighty miles per hour You are out running just about every single helicopter. There is I mean that's very fast for a helicopter And i'm pretty sure they use euro copters in general Which have a max top speed of about 140 knots so it doesn't surprise me, but of course? He has twists and turns in the road but then to Say, hey new- they left the BMW in the dust. What a pussy car! My goodness That's very interesting. Well, we don't have commercials on this program instead We've opted for something known as the value for value proposition and the way we keep our show going is not by being compromised clearly as the BBC is but by Taking donations from our producers also known as our listeners And I think we have see we have at least two executive producers today I think we should mention them before you move on with the program Yeah Actually, we have to executive producers into associates who want to put up

50:56 three, four associates. Whoa! It's going on and on. Gary or Grace Simunich, I've obtained my second executive production in my knighthood. I feel obliged to tell you that I spent 25 years as a consulting meteorologist so i offer this following fact weather is climate over the long term long being 30 years it's as simple as that Give me a douche bag for my 70 or so co-workers who have absolutely no clue as to what is really going on in the good USA and karma for the US Constitution. This would be my third, give him the douche bag. Maybe this third request will make all of the difference. Keep up the good work. So I look forward to hearing what you both have to say each and every week." He's in West Chicago and he sent in 582 people. That is very cool! I'm not sure what that number means...

51:54 I think to round up is knighthood. Okay, well here's some Knight Karma for you we'll be knighting you later on! You've got karma. Cool thank you And then Brian Ferguson in Irvine gave $438 to commemorate show 438 congratulations unto him It has been a while since i donated the last few shows have been awesome! Keep it classy Well you know why that is don't you? because we are the best podcast in the universe that's a fact William Bowman in Port Hunemany it's California you should know I know I know all the crazy California names but this one is

52:44 befuddles me. $201.99, he'll be an associate executive producer along with Sir Robert Goschko at Sherwood Park Alberta. $200 and I want to thank him for sending me a pair of headphones. Oh really? What kind of headphones did you receive? V-Moda's custom v-moda's Nice are you wearing them? No I wear them for the Horowitz show so i don't need to wear them for this show but they have the no agenda logo on them You got to send me a picture or tweet a picture of that. That's cool Yeah, definitely put it is it just like cut out himself and this is apparently the there's a custom V motors website slash custom they'll play any image They you want to really phone take a look at that if v modus Is that what it is he Moda V? Moda very outstanding yeah They're the ones that make some of the best earbuds especially the base which ones do you have which ones the V mode a true blood

53:41 Oh, I don't have it said no. I'd have to go downstairs and get the box Where are the headphones you already sell them on eBay? You only have the box? They're my headphones everybody in the family is already trying to glom onto him That's cool Very nice. Yeah, very cool. That's right sir Paul Schneider in Edmonton Alberta $200 credit me as Sir Paul Schneider I just saw the pictures of the official demo car and I'm disappointed. I won't have time to see it in person yeah if you go to This is Sir Kelly's son and his son Dallas, go to democar.curry.com you'll crack up I tweeted these pictures earlier demo car dot curry dot com so he's in a demolition derby

54:30 Oh, oh. Demo car? That kind of demo car Yeah so for those who don't know how awesome is this yeah So a demolition derby is where you essentially bring an old clunker and you have to do couple things like pull out the gas tank and make it all safe A Lincoln is preferred Is that true A big Lincoln, yeah from the 70s. Oh yeah, a Lincoln Mark 7 or whatever, yeah. Some big heavy thing. What is this car? What does he have here? This is a Pontiac... Or an Oldsmobile. But it's really cool! He has on the roof Crackpot Buzzkill. His racing number is 33 and at the front of the car it says... 33 Hot pockets! Hit him in the mouth. At the front on the nose of the car. You got the Noah Jenna logo on the hood. It's beautiful

55:16 Yeah, this is a winner. So he'll be... Where's he gonna compete with it? By the way it's a Pontiac Sunfire I'm reading here. Oh that was an Oldsmobile yeah okay it is. Same body. I just read the logo. Sir Kelly didn't give me the info but he says he's racing today So, well send him some karma. Yes but either way it'll be great to have pictures after the race to see what we look like. I've been doing this, I like demo drives they're quite fun. County Ferris 7. They're really fun and usually the guys drive backwards to protect their engine right you usually drive backwards and ram the guy in front because if you can bust a guy's radiator then he's done so anyway um anyways there was a lot of fun when i was there last year please send some karma to the car and driver too of course yes

56:08 Eric the shill another $200 from sales of the no agenda nation store. She was on fire What's going on with that? I think there's something we plugged or he's got something new I think have to go to know a gender nation Freebies, I mean he sent a lot of emails have you not paid attention to the emails yeah He's got a bunch of news got new shirts. He's got a bunch is yeah course It's like if I don't pay attentions email it calls me so I'm using Choices right Hey, you didn't plug my lanyards. Lanyards? Maybe it's the lanyards that are different. Lanyard rock! I love... You're going crazy for lanyards. Lanyards are pretty awesome and they're cheap. They're $3.33. It's a good deal. Well it was nice to thank you very much NoahJenTheNation.com Thank you Eric DeShield That's really nice to see that that's paying off. That's really good

57:00 And I want to remind people to go to noagendashow.com, noagenadation.com there's buttons you can click to go the donation page which is Dvorak.org slash N-A and by the way if you can't spell my name Dvorak which is d-v-o-r-a-k and you spell it stupidly like d-e-v-o-r-a-c-k type that name into Google in the box and you'll have my name spelled for you by Google Another handy internet surfing tip from John C. Dvorak PR mentions quickly, I guess this was one that Julian from Melbourne couldn't resist.

57:36 But he said, yo Adam currydvorak.com is ready for business serious business So that's forwarding to no agenda show dot com and that's kind of nice because we did need a curry dvorak website for our future Exploits yeah for the curry devore consulting group I already mentioned uh Dallas kelly's demo car and then along those lines Uh sir Andrew of the round and round table Noagenda racing dot com He says in the morning i got third place saturday his has the motorcycle race Right, with the logo on the bottom. With the URL on the bottom yeah. Yeah I was first in my race this morning but it started raining like crazy we didn't finish that lap so i got second well congratulations that's us always in second place no agenda show second place and proud of it

58:22 But maybe in second place, but we're still the best podcast. That is correct and we appreciate all the support from our executive producers and our associate executive producers of course Brian Ferguson will also get a 438 club membership as the only member of the club that's awesome And again if you can't spell it well just remember the jingle Dvorak dot org slash n-a-v-e And of course you can always go out and propagate the formula Our formula is this we go out. We hit people in the mouth Wow, that's nice very very nice and also Thank You Tice Browers for the artwork on episode 437 look forward to what we have a no agenda art generator comm For four three eight oh man

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Iranian Navy Speedboats, Asymmetric Warfare Tactics

The Iranian Navy has reportedly acquired and copied the Bradstone Challenger, a record-breaking speedboat capable of 72 knots. Renamed the Siraj-1, these fast gunships are part of Iran's asymmetric warfare strategy to swarm and attack larger Western warships. Despite the hype, the actual success of these small boats against modern naval vessels remains unproven.

iran· siraj-1· asymmetric warfare· speedboat· navy

59:30 I do have to start this segment out, the B block. Really? The B block? What is the C block? It'll be after the donation. Major donations will be on the C block. Got it got it thank you for pointing that out let me just adjust my eyes. Just in case, I know you didn't think much of the evergreen sound clip... Or the one last show which you ridiculed endlessly. So I have another one, maybe a different... this is a potential new segment to the show. Wait a minute! After every green clip of the day we have yet another? Does this go into C-block or...?

1:00:11 Or is this always in the B block? This one's bringing it up. Okay. Useless dialogue of the day! Oh, that could be interesting. But very briefly there must also be a broader question if there is a strike against Iran I mean the region itself is an absolute turmoil at the moment and they could be disastrous It could be Could be?! That's great Yeah... It's close but I'd have to follow what up with my Iran clip Is it useless though? Mine's useless. Well, I have a new There's a new meme in mine always nice yeah always nice wait for it comes at the end

1:00:53 This is the Bradstone Challenger, a record-breaking speedboat capable of an incredible 72 knots. A smaller version was driven by David Beckham during the opening of the Olympic Games but now this boat is in the hands of the Iranian Navy according to the people who built it They say the Iranians bought the boat after numerous Western attempts to block the sale they finally got their hands on it in 2009 from a South African arms dealer And they have successfully copied the prototype, calling it the Siraj-1. Part of a fleet of super fast gunships bristling with rockets and weapons. Bristling? A component of Iran's asymmetric tactics using small boats to attack large warships. Asymmetric warfare my friend!

1:01:40 So, uh... let me think for a second. So how many large warships have these hot little boats sunk over the years? Since this is apparently part of their tactic. Well pretty much none. Oh! But this is the asymmetric threat Yeah, that's a buzz term. They try to get that word into the public consciousness around 2002 after 9-11. Asymmetric, asymmetric and of course for people who don't quite know what it means is you have a terrorist or team of terrorists

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

CNBC Conflict Trade, Saudi Oil Spigots

CNBC analysts discussed the concept of a "conflict trade" regarding potential military action against Iran. The theory suggests that if Saudi Arabia increases oil production, it serves as a signal that the U.S. is backing an Israeli attack on Iranian targets. The discussion frames geopolitical instability as a primary investment opportunity for market speculators.

cnbc· conflict trade· saudi arabia· iran· oil prices

1:02:18 fighting against a organized army and so you have, so it's asymmetric in other words. You don't have an army against an army you have little...you know ankle biters against the Army kind of thing yeah And this is supposed to be very dangerous Yeah it's asymmetric Actually I do have a CNBC Iran clip that might fit into the useless dialogue of the day because Of course on CNBC which I watch As one my three screens No, because I like to follow the money. You know with a whole Iran situation there's all kinds of investment opportunities wouldn't you say? Oh yeah, I'm thinking of putting my money there now. You know it's a little difficult to try to put a conflict trade on because there is so much politics involved there. I think what you look for though if your looking at the Middle East conflict you look for Saudi Arabia to start turning the spigots on in oil To me that would be the first sign that perhaps The US is going back Israel and some kind of attack on Iran And onto our next topic What?

1:03:20 So if Saudi Arabia turns on the spigots, then we're going to go and kick Iran's ass. Iran. Really? Yeah! That sounds CNBC-y. It makes nothing but logical sense. It's a conflict trade is what you call it that's the technical term. I like this conflict trade. You should try it out in Horowitz. Hey Andrew... Do any good conflict trades this week Andrew?! I think I think the term is actually CONFRICT Trade on Frick's yeah, so I have the So did you notice Romney pulling that little? The little switcheroo on a meme that Obama Yeah, but then I'm ignoring that. I mean going all of that. You didn't notice it right you're talking about the Birth certificate thing now

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Mitt Romney Energy Policy, North American Independence

Republican candidate Mitt Romney has shifted his energy platform from "American oil independence" to "North American oil independence." This change explicitly includes resources from Canada and Mexico, signaling strong support for the Keystone XL pipeline and the continued import of Canadian tar sands oil. The policy redefines independence to include regional neighbors rather than domestic production alone.

mitt romney· energy independence· xl pipeline· canada· mexico

1:04:16 I'm talking about his switcheroo on the energy independence. This i have not heard. Oh yeah, Romney's changed it from oil independence of American oil independence to North American oil independence. Oh interesting Which is, hello? I mean this oil comes from Canada which nobody wants to talk about but it does and so if we went to American energy independence We would cut our neighbors in the north off and also get a good amount of oil from Mexico

1:04:54 So if we want to go to North American energy independence, nothing really changes. No because we are independent with the Canadias oil. Yeah but wait a minute so if he's using that then what he means is the XL pipeline is GO? Because it has to be if he's talking about North American Energy independence then that includes, canadia and that means that we have to be getting that the tar sand Oil stuff yeah well that would make sense what were you talking about? Now about no one's asked me for my birth certificate. Oh I didn't even see that come across And it's just

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Pussy Riot Members Flee Russia, Media Salaries

Two members of the activist group Pussy Riot reportedly fled Russia to recruit new members, a story sourced primarily from their own Twitter feed. The hosts criticize major outlets like The Guardian and The New York Times for reporting social media posts as hard news. The discussion includes an estimation of mainstream reporter salaries and benefits.

pussy riot· russia· the guardian· new york times· journalism

1:05:38 I get so sad, you know because I follow. I don't know maybe a hundred people? I don't look at the Twitter website. I have uh... I subscribe to the RSS feed for 100 people for a list yeah just for a list of they can even see that i'm following them and all of them sure they could see that I had them on their list And people who I kind of respect, you know are like... Oh so you're using the list? Yeah but I use the RSS feed of The List which is even cooler. Okay. Because I can't do it with a Twitter interface and it doesn't work on my mobile phone there's all kinds of problems and uh.. I just see people like oh yeah well I want to see your birth certificate Romney! Like ugh people really how can you sink to this level don't you

1:06:30 And I look at it, and we are so late to this fight John. You've heard of bringing a knife to a gunfight when it comes to how people in Gitmo Nation have been propagandized? We're showing up with a crayon! We don't even have a knife! Yeah, I know. Every once in a while I think about that and go... We do have a few hundred people paying attention but most people are completely lost and of course you run into them on a day to day basis if you actually get out the house once in awhile. And most of the time it's like jaw dropping! It's like really?

1:07:07 Well, that wasn't the case of course on the Hot Pockets Tour. It was quite the opposite where you know I already talk about this stuff with you five hours a week but then everywhere we went people like man were all gonna die here's my AR-15 here's some gas mask and I just got real tired just emotionally drained but I kept going until my body couldn't handle it anymore. Yeah yeah you would be getting $1,000 an hour. No thats the problem it would better if I was hanging on the stripper pole And then the report, you know... I'd hate to see that. Just looking at the propaganda So everywhere reports two pussy riot members flee Russia and they're gonna go recruit more pussy rioters But where does this report come from? From their Twitter feed! They said on Twitter

1:08:00 We've escaped the country. We're recruiting more Pussy Riot band members and this is now news, the headline reads two pussy riot members flee Russia From The Guardian to I think The New York Times had it you guys have nothing It's really...you know And what do these guys make over there? Where? Just at these outlets. At the New York Times? As an example... I would say a reporter will make $90,000 to $125,000 dollars a year Really?! Yeah Well that's... and they get compromised for that amount They have medical Oh right Free cars Free cars, subway passes And uh...I bet you they got cell phones

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Bill Nye Evolution Video, Big Think Controversy

Bill Nye "The Science Guy" released a video via BigThink.com claiming that the denial of evolution is a problem unique to the United States. Nye argued that creationist beliefs hold back technological innovation and urged parents not to pass these views to their children. The segment questions Nye's credentials and the funding behind the Big Think platform.

bill nye· evolution· bigthink.com· creationism· science education

1:08:56 Probably yeah, you know they probably cell phone car medical someone pays 25 thousand a year. Yeah someone pays for the internets So nice so nice no it's a good gig to very good gig I wish they spent more time doing their work instead of so speaking of downloading apps Speaking of the tweeters this was a big retweeted item Bill nye the science guy did you see this do you see this video? No, oh my goodness. So this is in the category Bill nye the science guy I should have looked him up really I forgot do you what where did he come from? He's a kooky guy He shows up on typically our morning talk shows and does You know just a shtick and he teaches it's kind of like Pee-wee Herman of science Is that an accurate description?

1:09:55 Yeah, I think he's kind of like Pee Wee Hermano. He's not quite as entertaining as he used to be. He is an actor and mechanical engineer. His best known is the host blah blah blah Are you looking at the wiki? How tall is he? Does it say on Wikipedia how tall he is? Yes! It does! Where? On the Wikipedia it says he's 6'4". Oh wait a minute this is... Google shows this interesting I just did a Google search and on the right hand side it says height 641. So, Google is now trumping Wikipedia very good Google. Okay so Nye began his career in Seattle at Boeing where among other things he starred in training films and he did invented apparently some pressure resonance suppressor into 747 later he worked as a consultant aeronautics industry

1:10:42 I mean, he wanted to be an astronaut but it was rejected. Yeah because they don't want idiots... Now he began his professional entertainment career as an actor on a local sketch comedy television show in Seattle almost live which by the way used to watch it was actually quite amazing since it was local is quite good mm-hmm He attempted a lot of inside jokes though about the area. He attempted to correct the shows host pronunciation of gigawatt to jigga what really what The host is probably, who do you think you are? Bill Nye the science guy. Oh and that's how he got it. Okay um so he apparently is being paid by bigthink.com You should go to that because I'm not quite sure who was behind this. I've seen this before. I think I've already deconstructed this website once before So BigThink.com Well BigThink.com is... It says down here

1:11:42 Somehow it's connected to the Jack Parker Corporation, which is I don't know who these people are about us Hold on a second. We don't know who anybody you know I try was digging on one today that I couldn't find One name of any person yeah have a couple of those coming up but anyway so big think calm and he they release a YouTube video And I've cut it down, but you need to... This is voted Time Magazine's number one website for news and information. But I know that killed me too! That doesn't sound right. Well here is the news and information that Time thinks is appropriate and I think its debatable Denial of evolution is unique to the United States There ya go. Denial of evolution

1:12:28 is unique to the United States. Really? You mean you can tell me that in Ghana or in Nigeria, or in parts of Asia or India... Or uh... Nobody's- everyone's all on board for evolution but- You're wrong! Bill Nye the Science Guy says it's unique to the United States of America and he will explain this We are the world's most advanced technological civil- I mean you could say Japan But generally, the United States is where most of the innovation still happens. People still move to the United States and that's large... What? I'm just saying this is an old meme that it not holding water anymore Yeah okay but wait until you hear what the message really is Because of the intellectual capital we have that general understanding of science When you have a portion population doesn't believe in that holds everybody back

1:13:27 Wait a minute, when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in evolution it holds everybody back. How many people do you think believe in creationism in America? I think probably about the majority, close to 40% of the country. I would say even more than that probably. Nahh...I'm having a hard time with it. And I think there's also a hybrid. You can believe in evolution of stuff God created That's not wrong We'll have that conversation in a minute Just you gotta listen what the guy says Billy and I say to the grown-ups if you want to deny evolution and live in your world that is completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe That's fine

1:14:09 But don't make your kids do it, because we need them. Don't believe in God is basically what he's saying! Yeah, maybe. Scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. There's plenty of people that are evolutionary biologists who are Catholics or even... But he is saying no this is not what he's saying listen to him wind it up because he actually saying the opposite of what you're claiming here For the future we need engineers that can build stuff

1:14:45 solve problems. Apparently if you believe in creationism, you can't solve problems or be an engineer? It's just a really hard thing it's really hard thing You know in another couple centuries that world view I'm sure will be...just won't exist. I don't know John! First let me play the Denier jingle for him The science is in! Science! Science! Science! This site sucks. I found it to be rather out there Well let me read something that's on here which is unfortunately this damned piece of crap flash on here What's the big idea? The internet has a terrible habit of misquoting Einstein on energy and creativity

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

FDA Cheese Regulations, Raw Milk Crackdown

Federal authorities are reportedly implementing stricter regulations on "cut and wrap" cheese shops, requiring products to be pre-packaged like those in grocery stores. This movement is viewed by some as an attack on the organic food industry and a precursor to a broader ban on raw milk cheeses. Critics argue these rules favor large-scale industrial producers over artisanal cheesemakers.

fda· cheese· raw milk· organic food· regulations

1:15:40 I have to go back to it, until it sounds like he's the author of The Secret not The Theory Of Relativity. Where does this come from? Here is something that actually did say and then goes on...I mean I've never heard this concept that people think he's the author of The Secret or they're trying to make us think that.. I find this onerous, this crazy assertion in a misuse of the language, now I have to look into this site Number one news site. Is America ready for a gay president? Author Jimmy Carter, Beyond Celebrity Adoptions by Jason Gotts associate editor of the Big Think standardized testing the monster that ate American education by Megan Erickson that could be organic food no lo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o

1:16:34 Organic food no longer sustainable. Are you buying beautiful organic to me? This is a whole half of the topic. They are in the process right now because JC's girlfriend works at a cheese shop. And the government has been doing this very secretively around the country, they are shutting down any cut and wrapped cheese shops you know where you go into a cheese shop say oh this cheddar is good give me a piece of this big what? You can't just buy cheese? They have to pre-cut it, prerap it that would be like it is in the grocery store Wait a minute back up one second... JC has a girlfriend

1:17:15 Yeah. She hot? She's JC's girlfriend, she's hot! So here is... so now you can't cut the cheese. Oh that what she said! Anyway so you can do that I mean this is not just this going to be all over the country. I don't understand but wait a minute you can't cut cheese why?! Because it's like dangerous! Really So, so there but that turns out according to the gossip within the cheese community is that this is a movement. They're also banning anybody that makes raw milk cheese right now I understand know that well there's a lot of people who do make it they have their permits and everything and they've been against this since day one because they want to sell milk that is garbage that has all kinds of bacteria in it but you boil it as fine kind of thing as opposed to raw milk which is usually pretty clean product

1:18:13 Anyway, it's a very clean product as matter of fact. So but they want to...they've been after raw milk forever and so they're trying to get that out there. They want to ban raw milk cheese which includes certain kinds even the stuff that comes over from Europe that has a certain period of aging which is okay apparently if you age is long enough you can eat it legally but they're gonna...but the real rumor is that they're going end up really out to get imported cheese Huh, they want to stop. They want us they want basically you want everybody eat Wisconsin cheddar no more stinky cheese That's what the goal is that so this perceived goal of the Feds Wow are just stopped They're gonna start with the cutting thing So they're gonna kind of decimate the cheese business because most people even go if you're gonna Go to just have some wrapped up cheese You know whatever they want everyone to have government cheese

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

GMO Labeling Battle, Organic Food Sustainability

A significant political battle is emerging over the mandatory labeling of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in food products. While some argue for transparency, others claim labeling is misleading since most processed foods already contain GMOs. The discussion also touches on the history of BST hormones in milk and the marketing of "biological" food in Europe.

gmo· labeling· organic· monsanto· bst

1:19:08 Yeah, I'm telling you there's a big deal going on. A lot of people believe this is an attack on the organic food. I could talk about that on the Thursday show, but I can just kind of mention it. There's a huge movement about labeling. It seems like it's all about labeling for GMOs. Yeah so you don't...the discussion is label or don't label and there seems to be quite a movement against not labeling that is genetically modified Well both sides have taken...there are these websites

1:19:50 pro and con are massive, and they have long lists of people and names. And this is going to be a really great battle when it finally comes to a head. I deconstructed these sites and went to the site that said no we don't want these labels because it's bull crap, it's misleading you know everything has got GMO in now you can go about it but they gave themselves away with a little complaint that was like highlighted in their website about, and did you know any processed food at all can not be labeled organic? So if you have organic green beans and you can them then you can't put the word organic on the can. And so they make a big stink about this and what I realized when i read through this over and over

1:20:43 Is that what they're trying? What they're really, who's really behind this are the bullcrap or big organic guys. These are the guys who are putting organic on everything and that's where they're really defending it's not about the GMOs Nobody cares. They just gonna be in the label about being able to put organic I'm pretty much and everything is that the whole idea Yes, it's pretty much being able to have free reign with the use of the term organic And you know if you freeze it by the law says if you'd like even free Is that you can't put that on it? You know this is interesting because I've been following The usage of the word organic and in other countries they do it a little differently in the Netherlands

1:21:21 Have to laugh because people are actually going to stores and paying a lot of money for their version of organic But you know what they call it over there. They call it biological I'm like Biological, of course its biological that doesn't mean that it's not jacked up with all kinds of crap Yes, my favorite example this is if you look at the brand that Safeway The big giant food chain has this oh It's all overpriced crap. It's definitely overpriced. There is nothing really interesting about it or good

1:21:57 So this battle is starting up, so when I see these organic food no longer sustainable articles which is obviously what's the implication of this? Organic foods are no longer sustainable. This whole thing is getting geared out for this you know let's just either label everything organic or don't label anything organic and you can't use any other kinds of... did this with the BST which was you know that Monsanto made a big fuss about. Yeah, the cow hormone. And the joke of it of course is still says that on most milk but the joke of it is BST hasn't been used for I don't know 10 years or more because nobody was buying it

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Farmers Market Pricing, Hmong Farmers in California

A personal anecdote describes the high quality and low prices of produce sold by Hmong farmers at local markets, contrasting them with overpriced "organic" stores in San Francisco. The story includes a critique of grocery store etiquette, specifically targeting customers who delay checkout lines by writing checks or counting small change.

farmers market· hmong· san francisco· organic· grocery shopping

1:22:35 It was making the cattle weird. So now it's just a marketing slogan? Yeah, which is fine there has no BST neither does anything else Well I think you just you got to find a market like we have here in Austin on Saturday We went...we were there yesterday and you just you know they don't put any labeling on their stuff There is this here this brown paper bag here You go yeah, you know it's funny you go to these farmers markets And I go to one local that pick up tomatoes mostly from the Hmong There are two Hmong farmers and they're competing with each other. They have the best stuff, I mean you get like a pile of things for $1. Oh like I got...I must've gotten a pound of chili peppers mixed the ones I picked out for three dollars! I actually looked at them and said are you sure? Three dollars?!

1:23:24 Yeah. I mean, that's an incredible price! Yeah no the prices are good at some of these... Some of the farmers markets then you go to San Francisco they blow our LA. No it's bullcrap yeah it's just bull crap So anyway so I get the biggest kick You got some Hmong farmers from Southeast Asia that have been patriotized in the United States or they've been brought over and their great farmers by the way They grow all kinds of cool stuff And you have some old lady, eh? Is this organic?! You know, it just bugs me that some of these old ladies... Well no! The old lady shouldn't bug you. It should bug you the old lady's been duped. I've said this, I bitch about this constantly. You go to Monterey Foods and the old lady is there and she doesn't have to be an old lady She can be in her 40s or she could be a typical Berkeley whack job but the old ladies typically hang up the line

1:24:19 First of all, they either write a check if they write a check. They got to balance their chequebook right in the line Stop everything so they can balance F9 from 14 and I gotta write it in there checked in their balance sheet on the chest writing it in the checker Yeah, writing right you can't move aside kick out get out of the way Out of the way And then the other one is the ones who pay cash and they have to dig over dimes You're one day you're gonna be an old lady and then what no I'm bitch about this so much. I'll get out of the way Next to me, I'll be with my gold coins Can I shave a little bit off of this for you give you some? Gold fighting it's just that but anyway yeah

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Lamb Sausage Cooking Technique, Casing Failure

A discussion regarding the proper way to cook lamb merguez sausages follows a failed attempt where the casings split open in the pan. Advice is given to either prick the casings or parboil the sausages before grilling to ensure the filling stays intact. The visual result of the failed cooking attempt is compared to a gunshot wound.

merguez· sausage· cooking· culinary tips· lamb

1:25:21 I have a question for you about organic while we're on the topic. Yesterday, I bought from my frog man Sebastien at the market he had these fantastic lamb sausages and he made them himself so it's very much the taste of the merguez. He has these great spices that he makes. Hey by the way, I bought some merguez. And? I haven't cooked him yet. Okay well let me know because i think you'll like it So that's basically stuffed into the... Very expansive. Yeah, well not at the market and not at Sebastian's place. Well send me some. Anyway go on. So we stuff them into you know this pig intestines I guess that's what a sausage is but I did I want to know if they were defective or if I did something wrong because I put them into the pan now heating up and within a minute

1:26:10 Two of them went, they just split open and you know the casings just everything oozed out. Did I do it wrong? Too much heat or am I supposed to do something before I put them in the pan? Do I have to prick holes in there? Well that depends on the sausage some sausages need to be boiled first Just firm up the insides so you don't have what happened to you So you pre-cook by boiling then you grill it That's what I should've done huh With that sausage, it sounds like that would have solved the problem. They're still split at some point but it will be solid. Oh, it's split so... and then you know then I just oozed out and it looked like a... Yeah no no no That look like a... That sausage probably should've been... It looked like a gunshot wound! It was not pretty! Just... I didn't-I was trying to show Mickey and I gave her the two good ones She'll never want to eat it Look at this oh if you see this she don't wanna eat anymore just didn't look good. You can sit here with some spaghetti sauce While we're on labeling um

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Generic Drug User Fee Amendments, Pharmaceutical Scams

President Obama signed the Generic Drug User Fee Amendments of 2012, which imposes massive new fees on companies seeking to manufacture generic medications. The law requires a $50 million "backlog fee" split among applicants and aims to generate $299 million in annual revenue. Critics argue this legislation is a scam designed to protect the profit margins of major pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer.

fda· generic drugs· obama· pharmaceutical industry· fees

1:27:06 Producer Chad Christian, our buddy there in Erie Colorado in Denver. So you know he's an EMS guy so I don't know he is turning out to be a very useful human resource for the show He is combing through the federal register on a daily basis, which is hard. You know they've got some RSS feeds very poor I have to say but he does a really good job and he sent me a link and that led me to some legislation that like to share with you because we missed the big one. And by the way I mentioned it lots of this stuff in the Federal Register would be the senator or the congressman saying and i have direct balance my remarks I'd like to put on the record for the record and they just put it in the register but never actually say them

1:27:52 So the thing is filled with bull crap. Well, bull crap and then one that we missed a so he said it was draft guidelines for industry on generic drug user fee amendments of 2012 and I'm reading this and it says that this amendment was signed into law by President Obama on July 9th, 2012 and it is a part of the Food and Drug Administration Safety and Innovation Act or as we say in Inovitation in England. So I read through this thing... It's a whopper by the way let me see how many pages this thing has got... jeez... it was like 300 pages but I go to the title three

1:28:45 fees relating to generic drugs, short title. This title may be cited as the Generic Drug User Fee Amendments of 2012." Now this is already law and I didn't know any of this was being debated etc. In general each person that owns an abbreviated new drug application that is pending as per October 1st, 2012 and has not received a tentative approval prior to that date shall be subject to a fee for each such application is calculated under paragraph B. So what this is about is obviously to put the generic drug companies out of business

1:29:27 The amount of each one-time backlog fee, so if you have a generic drug and this is big problem for the pharmaceutical companies because their patents are run out. They've gone generic and then so you can basically say okay I'm going to make Lipitor or what are some other good ones John that are out there? Lipator, Viagra... Yeah all kinds of groovy stuff And the joke is The patent system was designed for this exact... Yeah, right. But here's how they're combating it. There is no reason that these drug companies should gouge the customer forever So let me ask you a question And it's a gouge by the way Oh no wait Because if you can make a pill for five cents Wait until you hear the numbers and your being charged ten dollars? Wait until you hear the numbers my friend

1:30:12 So Lipitor is out of patent. If you and I had the formula, could we cook up a batch? Could we cook up some Viagra? Can we cook that up? Would that be hard to do? You should be able to by law yes No but would it be expensive for us to do that? We just like go into our lab and cook it up Yeah. Would it be expensive is my question? I don't know, I don't know what the formulas are or what it takes to make some of that stuff but I'm sure that a generic drug company would be able to do it inexpensively Uh no, they can't do it inexpensively because... Why because? They now will have to pay a fee for each generic drug they want approved by the FDA Why?!

1:30:51 To get rid of them here it is the amount of each one-time backlog fee shall be calculated by dividing 50 million dollars By the total number of abbreviated new drug applications pending on October 1st 2012 so if you have a drug pending now, and I let's say there's five guys You will have to pay ten million dollars application fee for the FDA to even consider your generic drug. But it gets better! If you own a pharmaceutical ingredient drug master file and you want to put in an application, you will also be required to pay a fee I'm just going to scroll down this document here They have a whole bunch of things here talking about if you don't pay, go to jail or your company get shut down etc

1:31:54 Ummm... The fees are unknown. So for each person that owns a facility which is identified or intended to be identified in at least one generic drug submission that is pending or approved to produce one or more finished dosage forms of a human generic drug shall be assessed for an annual fee, for each such facility. And these fees will be determined no later than 30 days after the signing of this document so I haven't found them yet but apparently those have to be put in But here's the kicker because they've put it Fiscal Year 2013. For fiscal year 2013, fees under this act shall be established to generate a total estimated revenue amount of... What do you think? A billion? No not that bad. $299 million dollars

1:32:49 In fees? In fees for generic... This is what everyone's complaining about, by the way. This sort of red tape crap It's not red tape! it's a scam! It's a scam Red tape scam And this has not been reported anywhere I did not even know about this thing So now if you and I cook up a generic drug Viagra We're like hey we can sell this viagra and make some money and we can make it for five as you said five cents a pill Unfortunately, somewhere we'll have to pay some portion of this $299 million as a part of our fee. And if we have an application in now, we're going to be paying a portion of 50 million dollars depending on how many other guys there are." Wow! What a scam? So what happens to the guys that make the stuff in India?

1:33:37 Well if they want it sounds to me as though we're gonna take all our drug manufacturing and drive it out of like everything else We've done in this country Drive it out of the country so it doesn't exist here anymore, and the dumb public does whatever Well it's too bad they're outsourcing everything. Well, they've hit it from both sides They've hit it with legislation so that you can't buy drugs over the internet from outside the United States We've already gone through that and now they just hit it directly at the bottom line So this is the whole point make it too expensive for these guys to come in You know if you run in Pfizer and you can pull this sort of stunt

1:34:18 over and over again on the dumb Congress? What would you do?" Oh yeah, duh. I would keep doing it until my body gave up! There ya go... The only exemption of fees is for a positron emission tomography drug which is cancer because they got that scam running in other ways I guess Yeah no its already scammed out Scammed out all scammed out Well we're on the topic of drugs then Uh oh I found the absolute worst drug ever. These disclaimers are outrageous. It's Humira. It took years to build this business, the moment my moderate to severe chronic black psoriasis started getting in the way

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Humira Side Effects, Medical Malpractice Lawsuits

Advertisements for the drug Humira list a wide array of severe side effects, including tuberculosis, lymphoma, and heart failure, while treating skin conditions. This is contrasted with legal advertisements seeking plaintiffs for lawsuits involving drugs like Pradaxa and Actos. The segment highlights the "sick" nature of an industry that markets dangerous drugs and then profits from the resulting litigation.

humira· psoriasis· side effects· pradaxa· medical litigation

1:35:12 That was it. It was time for a serious talk with my dermatologist, this time he prescribed Humira, Adalimumab. Humira helps to clear the surface of my skin by actually working inside my body In clinical trials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearance. And the majority of people were clear or almost clear in just four months. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections including tuberculosis. Serious sometimes fatal events such as infections lymphoma or other types of cancer have happened Blood, liver and nervous system problems. Serious allergic reactions and new or worsening heart failure have occurred before starting Humira your doctor should test you for TB ask your doctor if you live in or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common tell your doctor if you've had TB hepatitis B are prone to infections or have symptoms such as fever fatigue coughs or sores You should not start Humira If you have any kind of infection make the most of every moment

1:36:13 Ask your dermatologist about Humira today. Clearer skin is possible. Wow! I mean, it's everything. Yeah. Liver failure, heart attack... cancer. I didn't hear depression. I was surprised. Well you're dead by the time you get that far. They should have thrown that in. And by the way, he says if you have sores this is to take care of sores It also helps against Crohn's disease apparently Rheumatoid arthritis? What is this, some kind of miracle drug? A miracle death drug. So I was reading... It's funny that in the same block of ads No what it was just and i just thought it was hilarious it's that if the clip is called dead call us okay oh we should have played it in sequence that sounds even oops what happened where'd he go uh-oh something weird happened Oh here it is you should have played them in

1:37:17 Attention, do you have health problems? Use Pradaxa as a blood thinner and had hemorrhaging internal bleeding or loved one has died. Use Actos for diabetes and now have bladder cancer Had hip replacement Have transvaginal mesh patch having erosion infection of pain If so, you may be entitled to financial compensation Call 1-800-242-2000. If you use Pradaxa, Actos have a hip implant or transvaginal mesh patch call 1-800-242-2000. Yeah this vaginal mesh stuff is... What the hell is that anyway? Yeah this was some kind of um I looked into this it's not pretty. Vaginal mesh patch. Because oftentimes with severe with obesity but after pregnancy

1:38:06 with some women apparently large enough to create a market stuff starts falling out and starts hanging out oh yeah it's not a pretty conversation so then they made this vaginal mesh patch You know, kind of like a net. Is this got anything to do with the punchline? Here let me find my keys we'll drive out of here? No no there's no punch line to this okay and but apparently that really hurt a lot of women so it's just crazy mesh patch yeah It's not good. Yeah, this industry is sick! It's not a good thing yeah it is sick and they're helping us by not letting...not giving us access to actual affordable medication

1:38:54 Even though I don't believe in a lot of the medication that it's protecting but you know The whole idea of the patent system as you pointed out is to allow for this and then right behind everybody's back they go in and That the I didn't go into it You can have the document marked up in the show notes But you look at the at the reasoning and the calculation for this 300 million dollar in fees for the first year only And this legislation will be, will sunset at the end of 2017 when of course they'll renew it and up everything. It's ridiculous! Because oh we have to hire more people... ...to look at these things and just a complete bull crap. An-and it's all just willy nilly We don't quite know how much you're gonna be charged yet but it will be part of the 300 million Yeah that comes in handy

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Listener Donations, 69-69 Love Number Segment

A series of listener donations featuring the "69-69" amount triggers a discussion on "lesbian bed death" and the high cost of Androgel. Listeners request "job karma" and "travel karma" while the hosts joke about Hillary Clinton's potential use of testosterone supplements. The segment concludes with a "trains good, planes bad" karma shot for a teacher.

donations· 69-69· androgel· hillary clinton· karma

1:39:43 Just kind of vague. Speaking of 300 million... Well, we definitely did not get $300 million. No. Government gets it Okay, we got T McAdams in Chicago $140.99 call out buddy Paul L of Arlington Virginia as a douchebag That's all he says and he says he needs to deduce you the karma shot You've been deduced you've got karma

1:40:29 David goes in New Lenox, Illinois $100 no comment Jesper Holmberg and Duval Washington 8888 pre sprinkle Sprinkle some travel karma over my family so our tiny human resource can handle a long flight So TSA pays as little attention as possible and I can figure out the super secret Wi-Fi code at ship pool Airport that's also for for the guy who was Who the guy was asking about gourmet salts in episode 437 John gave an in-depth explanation on episode 24 So I just listened to a bunch of back issues. I just got from the archive Adam sounded really interested in the subject at the time see people are misunderstand. I know that you know a lot about salt so instead of

1:41:15 Just you know I just gave you a little background music that. I thought it enhanced the entire experience It wasn't another me no, of course didn't buy II think you actually enjoyed a little background music like background music when I'm talking Not the kazoo Not the kazoo because it was sirs Chad Biederman or could be by German but I think is Biederman in around Lake Illinois a lot of Illinois Ian's way and then I needed to hand out some travel karma to a yes I'm sorry as his human resources ship ship all you've got car my semi email also near the details super secret wifi which is great by the way they have something like that available travelers no agenda it's just a complimentary service have no agenda that's right through the entire airport of ship whole

1:42:08 Yes, and otherwise you'll be paying ten bucks an hour or some outrageous thing. Yeah $70 from Sir Chad hmm John Saturday bulletin on Romney's vice president shall pick finally motivated me to get off my entire ass and donate once again normally only gets off part of his ass Would like been nice if Romney picked Charlie Crist Christ Christ Christie Charlie go Charlie Crist. Okay, yeah that guy for VP at least the guy has a tan I Think that is important. I think that he's true appearance matters Did you give him a toot of the head followed by me yelling? That's not a great question You want me to just do it in real time? Yeah, yeah, that's better Let's better and do that hold on a second. That's not a great question

1:42:55 That was the clip. Beautiful. Sir James Howard in Indianapolis, Indiana 69-69 Hold on! 69! 69 dude! Or as we call it swazzle nuff Swazzle Nuff After hearing John's bombshell about lesbian bed death on the last show I had a revelation this is obviously why Hillary wants to kill us all Maybe Huma, Uma, Huma. Homa is too tired after dealing with the baby. Maybe the spark has died who knows? But a few doses of androgel seems like a small price to pay to save the world Hey couple things about this first of all I registered swazilnaf.com A good move! And I'm on tweet today

1:43:43 Oh, good. So I figured when I'm heading to LA when that when Leo says what do you want? What do you want a URL to be as think I should just say swazzle enough calm. What do you think yeah You'll never get it And of course that points no agenda show dot-com Swassel enough he'll be like what yes my new project swazzle enough comm and and someone else sent me note about Andrew Jelen instead was bullcrap your story And I disagreed because this producer says, you know, I have to take androgel because they don't produce enough testosterone. He says it's very expensive. You can't get a little bit and it's like $1,000 bucks a month. And I said well just because it's expensive doesn't mean that it's not used in that manner but apparently it is very hard to come by. Yeah for men it would be 1,000 bucks a month for women that would last six months

1:44:37 They're not pumping up like guys are. Good point! But yeah, that's a myth and it is also covered by some insurance plan so there's not $1,000 involved So what we need to do is we need to see if Hillary... And by the way It used to be like three hundred dollars a month and then when Obamacare went in it went into 1,000 How does that happen? Yeah, so we need to see if Hillary is starting to grow a stash Well she'd probably shave I think she shaves anyway You would see stubble Yeah, there's the artist getting to work right now putting a big mustache on. Did you not like the 69-69 jingle? I thought it was pretty good! Yeah you have to play it again because Sir James Howard in Indianapolis... Uh oh! Nathan Marshall. Sir Nathan. Okay that was James Howard with the Lucifer thing. Sir Nathan Marshall is what I mean is Grant Forks North Dakota 69-69

1:45:37 Yes, I just did the jingle you didn't hear it. I just did it don't worry. I did this is a true This is a true drunk donation But because it took me at least six times to log into the pay power In currently listening to show four three four about killing a pig oh By the way, it's sir to you FYI. I'm still waiting for that double-headed 6969 coin! I like some little job karma and karma because i found out how expensive a slave wedding costs Best wish to crackpot and mrs mickey I can still spell it correctly drunk door to warrack You've got Karma

1:46:28 Anthony Farmer lost wages in Nevada 69-69 A special lesbian bed debt donation from the land of intellectual sodomites If they need help shaving their mustaches I can hook em up My contributions are slow but steady. Thank the wonderful economy here in Los Wages, but at least I'm trying not like that douchebag Marshall! Oh that guy... A friend who also listens regularly telling him to get off his ass and toss you guys a copper from his Texas Texan slumlord reserves Maybe a Huntsman Clippity-Clop will get him motivated. A Huntsman Clippity-Clop? Okay we... And with karma

1:47:21 I'm done say. Just hands me Clippity-Clop? The message is clear. Brandon Savoie in Silverdale, Washington. 69! 69 dudes! It's gonna get old John and I was on base for pinpin pin yada speech And I need a lobotomy so I'm getting Italian mob hit for myself Also need some job karma first girl see I told you Wasn't one of the many people extremely excited. Oh, yeah and clapping and cheering and hooting and hollering You've got karma what does he call them pinhead a pin header? Joshua spikers spiker sinking Springs Pennsylvania Wow what a name for a town

1:48:18 6969 long time boner first-time donor trying to sell my house and eat some karma all right here comes you've got karma John Gagulis in Perth our favorite city in the world 6969 is being called out on Thursday by my douche in law Spyro I figured it's time for you to make For me to make the move and show some support for you guys, please accept this donation as a thanks for the tremendous work you're doing. You guys provide this peasant my dose of sanity but I also often find myself saying that's bullcrap! A lot and yelling at the TV like when i watch the tv news in The Talking Heads said something like they were killed in shocking circumstances. I leapt off the sofa yelling shocking

1:49:10 I'm becoming linguistically aware. By the way, the suspense whistle on Thursday sounded like a slide-whistle orgasm. Keep dissecting coming keep it coming as well as top notch entertainment sincerely John Gagulis in Perth Oh thank you very much and thank you to your douche in law for setting me up Philip Rogner in Vancouver Another swaddle nuff 6969 in the morning John and Adam. Phillip R checking in from the Gitmo Nation Great White North been a boner for two years now concluded it's time to support the best podcast in universe I'd like a de-douching and as science is in karma thanks and keep it up okay you've been dedouched! The Science Is In! You've got Karma. I like that. Cool, cool combo.

1:50:04 Matthew Highland in Novato, California. 69-69 in the morning my fellow master debaters just getting by has caused me not to donate and a while it's been too long I've been chomping at the bit for quite some time to donate 69-69 because 69 is a love number and 69-69 absolutely double down for the love number this needs to be accredited donation special that lasts for all time Double down on the love number. I'm glad i am able to get this note in before the streak has ended John stick to your guns on a 6969 investigation please provide my lovely girlfriend Caitlin Halla with a chemtrails trains good planes bad karma shot

1:50:44 She embarks on her teaching credential, her wild schedule of teacher in the morning. Teacher 8 in the morning and classes at night cause her to be away from home from 7am-10pm. The teaching community would be blessed to have as passionate a hardworking girl as her maybe I can convince her to slip into some no agenda memes to little human resources once she becomes a teacher also give my brother Cameron Highland his second douching as he initially turned me out of this show. Oh man! Oh wow. Two years ago and he's still not donated! Alright, let me get the uh... The karma request here... All aboard trains good planes bad You've got karma And that ends our 6969 episode. Let me end- let me end segment! 69! 69 dude! So much for the swazzle muff

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Rain Stick Success, 66 on the Sticks

Multiple listeners reported unexpected rainfall in Southern California, Atlanta, and Oklahoma City shortly after the "rain stick" was shaken on a previous show. A new donation tier of "$66 on the sticks" is established for those seeking rain-related karma. One listener theorizes that the rain signal is transmitted via the internet backbone from Austin to other major hubs.

rain stick· weather· donations· orange county· oklahoma city

1:51:40 Hey John and Adam, $61.11 from Brad Reader... Writer I'm submitting my donation of 66 on the sticks 6-6-1-1 That's good, 66 on the sticks Get it? Ooh! 66 on the sticks! For some rain stick karmas I really don't want to put out the hoses this weekend Hey The donations also a reminder for everyone to sign up for the Value for Value plan especially while it is being offered at discount price Four dollars for five hours of content a week Keep up the good work guys So uhhhh....I think we need to talk about this briefly About the about the rain stick all right. Are you cool with the race? Yeah, no No I mean you would you got the damn thing apparently a rain in LA for some guy who had okay? Hi, we gotta think you're gonna get it the effect if your listen on headphones well We got a couple emails Hey Adam says Cory two things for you a theory about the rainstick another about my knighthood and will be igniting him later The rainstick works

1:52:35 I'm usually a skeptic when it comes to rain sticks and such nonsense, but I can doubt no more. The rain stick really works! It rained very unexpectedly in Southern California Orange County specifically late Thursday night about 16 hours after the rain stick was shaken I have a theory as how it works. The signal was transmitted over the internet backbone connecting to Dallas, to Los Angeles at distance of 1500 miles. The reason it took 16 hours to get here is because the signal was degraded when it made from Austin to the Dallas hub and then split all across the country! Looks like the stick needs to be shaken at-at close to major backbone as possible for maximum signal strength when sending remote rain signals."

1:53:16 Okay. Tyler, just to let you know I was listening to the stream when he did the rain stick Lincoln has been on mandatory water restrictions for two months now Well it's raining right now we're supposed to get 2 inches tonight thanks says Tyler Christopher Altman Dude! I'm listening to the podcast and it's raining in Atlanta as we speak And finally Ken also from we know from Arsonomics The rain stick works. It just started raining in Oklahoma City funny thing as I heard the podcast about nine hours ago So maybe it's eight to twelve hours from the time you hear the podcast or perhaps it just takes longer the further away From the stick you are so, you know We don't question karma and I don't question the stick this

1:54:06 So double, was it double six on the stick? Is that our donation number now for... 66 on the sticks. 66 on the sticks. That's a great donation though. Here you go Brad. 66 on the sticks. Turn your speakers up buddy! Ready here we go. 66 on the sticks perfect It's a magical story. By the way, Corey who you read from also wanted a couple douchebag callouts in that same note we should give him Do you have them handy? Yeah he got a bunch of friends who listen to this show haven't been reading any donations from them lately so the following people need douche bag call-outs ready yep Scott Hodgson Douche Bag! and by the way he's loaded so he deserves a double douche bag Douche Bag! And Tom Capote

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

Indian Social Media Censorship, Mars Curiosity Rover

The Indian government is criticized for its "clumsy" attempts to censor social media, which resulted in the accidental suspension of the Minister for Communications' own Twitter account. Additionally, a listener expresses skepticism regarding the Mars Curiosity rover landing, suggesting that recent UFO photos from the mission are actually dead pixels on the camera.

india· censorship· social media· curiosity rover· mars

1:54:56 It was the entire Capote family. Really? From the Capote family, no less! Yeah well... I wonder if he's related to Truman Alright, Sid Incognito in Melville New York. He's one of our few Indian Knights as he mentions. That's very good! Checking in and donating to encourage John to keep us up his coverage of Indian news. Well a big story this week has been the Indian government's clumsy censorship of social media including the accidentally taking down the Twitter account of the Minister for Communications Yeah that was good. Very funny

1:55:32 Please give me a science jingle why because it works by the way if Adam is still intent on using weird alternative medical treatments I recommend air candling. It may be completely useless but at least it's hilarious! I'll give it a shot! Science! Science! 559 from uh Sir Sid Tim McCoy in Louisville, Kentucky 5033 like to call out Brian of Louisville, Kentucky for being a douchebag And talking about the show after much persuasion to listen but has not donated I would like to send out karma to his folks who are both being jerked around by the health care system right now No kidding. You've got karma

1:56:17 Brad Lupton, we had a lot of weird numbers today. Kyle Texas right down the street from you $50 and 8 cents Great job guys have been really laughing a lot more at y'all's back-and-forth banner I also find that when John is in a bad mood he's funnier and he spits it out him more Thank Okay Thanks again for your hard work Thank you for your donation, Brad. Sergio Gasparini also one of the editors at Dvorak Uncensored blog in Surbiton, Surrey $50 I wanted to make an extra special request from Karma my hunt for a new place to live has not gone well! I need karma for this and for my job as well since next Tuesday i have a meeting with my boss and the head of HR I don't think it would be for a raise

1:57:04 Even good work at him as an engineer. I don't find it hard to believe that the curiosity Lee Lander made it to Mars I find in a very exciting place indeed peace out well Why don't you post all those UFO pictures on the Dvorak org slash blog which apparently were? Pixel dead pixels in the camera, I mean please they're really laying it on thick now anyway Here's some good karma for you because you deserve that for your job and place to live You've got karma $50 also from Terrence Knapp in Woolguru, Queensland Australia. Also 50 from Andy White in Neenah Wisconsin been a listener since show one I'm getting by just getting by it took this long to scrimp up and save I need a de-douching Italian version the shutup slave and much needed job karma you've been de-douche'd

1:58:03 You've got karma. Mike Bernstein and Bettendorf Iowa's our last donor on this list for $50 want to thank him and everybody else make sure you go to noagendashow.com, noagendanation.com, dvorak.org slash naan channel Dvorak dot com slash n a n help us for the next show which will be show 439 we use a club member or two four three nine I have exciting news John before we end our segment in order for us to make some extra cash i'm not quite sure what happened But I received not one, but two auditions. Ooh! And they're both interesting and I was wondering you know because of course if i ever land one of these we'll split the proceeds which could be big these are national commercials national radio commercials uh... I don't know if we should do They're both pretty short but um One is for Proactiv Which is a

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

Taylor Swift Sony Commercial, Voice Acting Audition

One of the hosts performs a mock audition for a Taylor Swift Sony NEX-5R web announcement. The script involves promoting Swift's album "Red" and a contest for a personal photographer. The co-host provides direction, encouraging a "surfer" or "goofy" tone to appeal to the target demographic of 18-to-28-year-olds.

taylor swift· sony nex· voiceover· commercial· audition

1:59:02 That isn't that the stuff that you put on your face if you have pimples? Yes, yes. For acne and it can make you crazy I think Yeah And but the other one may be more interesting is for Taylor Swift's web announcement Woo! And i'm thinking maybe we should do that one Would you like to produce me? Yeah yeah ready to go Let me give you the specs here so this is for Sony Taylor Swift web announcement internet Specs 18 to 28 year old cool male. I fit the profile positive reading should not feel rushed But needs a few beats and should fit within 30 seconds no more than two takes, please So let me hold on a second since we're gonna go this far. I want to get a stopwatch out Okay, come on There's gotta be couple online ones are you know? I know either the clock under the computer will do it I have a clock with a second hand

2:00:01 Okay, I'm gonna give you the three two one and you hit it ready But but I do need to amp me up man. I got it. I got it listen I have you got it This is easy this is gonna be an easy one for you because you are the cool guy You can do you get that? I think you're gonna Be careful you might guess you're so good Potentially that you might over you know you might talk too fast cuz there's a 30-second commercial right well It's more. It's more copy than well Let's see how we do it um Well, let's do a run-through before we do the two takes. I would get the timing down okay So here comes my take one well three well hold on Adam Curry Vox agency Taylor Swift web announcement Say they got you gotta do that kind of thing first okay? Okay, yeah, but this is a refer yeah, but if I can edit that later I can edit that later You think your assuming gonna hit it okay ready 3 2 1

2:00:50 This is... What? You know, you do 3-2 and 1 is silence. Well I'm watching this clock so if it's a number I don't know. Alright you do 3-2-1 and I'll start okay got it. Okay ready? Yeah When I say one start. Three Two One This is Taylor Swift She loves to give the Sony NEX 5R as gift she also loves to give back to her fans which gave Sony an idea As Taylor promotes her upcoming album Red, Sony's giving you the chance to come along as her personal photographer. You'll document every amazing moment with the Sony N- You'll document every amazing moment with the Sony NEX But first you need to submit a portfolio of your best five shots and then Taylor comes in and says... And who knows maybe you get to join me on the road! And use a Sony NEX to capture it all

2:01:44 So how do you think I did on the read there? I thought you started off crappy. Uh-huh When you came to the line which gave uh... Sony an idea, yeah You got your voice to the point where i'd like to hear it The whole thing done that way Which is more of a close to being a surfer Okay all right Close to being a surfer but not duty Okay got it okay Ready Yep Three Two One This is Taylor Swift She loves to give the Sony NEX 5R as a gift. She also loves to give back to her fans, which gave Sony an idea! As Taylor promotes her upcoming album Red, Sony's giving you the chance to come along as their personal photographer You'll document every amazing moment with a Sony NEX But first you'll need to submit a portfolio of your five best photos What do you think? You came in

2:02:41 If you can edit it so you can add about five seconds, you came in at about 25. Did you like the read though? Was that good? Yeah I liked the read but i would like to get one more read and I liked that read yeah but I'd like to get one where you really amp up that goofy sound that you have in there It's just not quite maxed out where its really attractive. It could be really attractive if you push the surfer Push the surfer? Yeah Okay count me down 3, 2 ,1 This is Taylor Swift. She loves to give the Sony NEX-5R as a gift she also loves to give back to her fans which gave Sony an idea As Taylor promotes her upcoming album Red Sony's giving you the chance to come along as their personal photographer You'll document every amazing moment with a Sony NEX but first you need to submit a portfolio of your five best photos

2:03:41 He still came up short about three seconds, but I think that's fine. I like that one. Do you think it could have been even more over the top? Really? We've done the over-the-top and then the phone has not been ringing Yeah But this is asking for that...I mean your other ones have been asking for the serious gentleman This is asking for some young kid who said through his thrilled with Taylor Swift he thinks she's the greatest singer singer in the history of pop music. Okay, and she's so pretty. Ant me up! Alright you gotta ant me up, ant me up, ant me up, ant me up. She is pretty, your in love with her, you think it's fantastic and this would be an opportunity for anybody to

2:04:20 Count me in, count me in. I'm ready 3 2 1 This is Taylor Swift She loves to give the Sony NEX 5R as a gift She also loves to give back to her fans which gave Sony an idea As Taylor promotes her upcoming album Red Sony's giving you the chance To come along as their personal photographer You'll document every amazing moment with a Sony NEX But first, you'll need to submit a portfolio of your five best photos. Yeah I think i nailed that Well I think it was good It was uh... yeah I liked it Anyway that's what I would like That if I heard that I'd say put this guy in the considerate pod DriftBulwark.org slash N A Please help us we need the help! Don't put me through that

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

Knighthood Ceremony, Sir Corey and Sir Greg

Corey Wadlow and Greg Semenich are officially knighted at the No Agenda Roundtable following donations of $1,000 or more. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony, granting the new knights access to the "knights table" and its associated satirical perks. The segment reinforces the show's "value for value" funding model.

knighthood· donations· roundtable· sir corey· sir greg

2:05:12 22 man you believe that Hello? 22. Yeah, 22 and we have a... Does she even listen to the show? Oh yeah sometimes her boyfriend listens religiously. Yeah well he's a good guy. My daughter is not my daughter is not a good guy now all of sudden She's not a guy she's a girl Two nightings John if you don't mind drawing the blade there you go very good He coughed as he draws the blade oh no it's a machete

2:06:04 Corey Wotilo and Greg Semenich, step forward please. And it should be Corey Wadlow that's how you pronounce it officially Both of you have donated to the Noah Gen to show the best podcast in the universe with an amount of $1,000 or more hereby I pronounce thee both knights at The Noah Gen Roundtable Hereby It is Sir Corey and Sir Greg come on down at The Knights Table Please your welcome for your hookers & blow Your rent boys and chardonnay Your winches and beer Hot pants and booze Or bong hits if you're into them Thank you for supporting us really does help Absolutely, yeah. It's all we get that's all we do We don't pay we don't sell out to anything even though we do with this Sony commercial We tried to do the stuff. We didn't give us money for doing that we didn't even do the proactive commercial But I know I didn't want to do that either a little too much hey Do you know this show white collar?

CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

White Collar TV Show, HPV Vaccine Propaganda

The TV show "White Collar" is noted for mentioning Stargate and MKUltra, suggesting the writers may be listeners. This is contrasted with the movie "Hit and Run," which is criticized for including blatant pharmaceutical propaganda regarding the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine. The dialogue is described as unrealistic and likely paid for by vaccine manufacturers.

white collar· stargate· mkultra· hpv vaccine· hit and run

2:07:00 White Collar. It rings a bell? Yeah, I've never seen it. Let me just see... White Collar Series, I guess. It's probably on USA Network. Oh! So it's probably popular. No, USA Network gets good ratings. This is not a dog. No, USA Network's really good Someone sent me a clip and said, you know it's obvious the writers on that show listen to the best podcast in the universe. Proof is here! Our government has endorsed a cornucopia of questionable programs Stargate MKUltra The Space Shuttle He has a point Excellent

2:07:46 Stargate. You can't make that up! I mean, you're listening to no agenda if you're rattling off Stargate MK Ultra in the same sentence Yeah well either that or your stuck in the 60s Got actually there was a new movie out which looks like a very fun kind of movie if you're just into something kind of Dumbo it has what's his name Roseanne Barrs husband Tom Arnold is in it. It's called hit-and-run and as I guess the story got divorced ex-husband and they got Guess the it's like from the makers of The Hangover so it's gonna be a fun movie guys a bank robber, but in the witness protection program He stiffs his fellow bank robbers And then they find him and then Tom all just protect protecting me It's one of these you know lots of crashes fast cars hot chicks Kristen Kristen. What's her name is in it? Kristen Hotchick isn't it now if its Stewart I

2:08:47 There's a lot of Kristen's apparently. Kristen, am I gonna say Kristen Bell maybe? Kristen Bell. Yeah Kristen Bell. Kristen the hot one So there is a piece of blatant, blatant pharmaceutical promotion in it because these movies are always sponsored by the car company. Product placement so this whole industry big big big time but it was surprising when I heard this when I was sent this clip and found out what it was really for What I'm thinking about Okay, I might not know the specifics but i know it's some kind of useless racket that's keeping you from concentrating. You don't know squat! I could be thinking about the cure for cancer in fact

2:09:30 I may have just cracked it and now you're trying to get me to erase it from my hard drive. You couldn't carry UTI if you owned a cranberry farm. Hey, look! I've never had an infected urinary tract Oh really? No, I have not And you've never had HPV either? NO Alright... no human papillomavirus Watch your mouth What? Hey! Watch your mouth! I was vaccinated I was vaccinated because unlike you, i was born after the polio vaccine. What are you talking about? How about that huh not only does this HPV he actually says human papillomavirus and then she says i've been vaccinated what was this hit and run

2:10:08 It's the worst kind of sick propaganda. I wonder what they paid for that to be in the script? You know that's not in the original script by the writer. How many guys say, baby you might have human papillomavirus? Yeah, that's real normal talk isn't it? That says total realistic dialogue. Right along all those crashes. That borderline clip of the day Well, I don't want to go too lightly on Yeah So I was scanning around. I got a kind of an offbeat clip because I ever heard this story before and it was there's this actor Luca Barbareschi who is a place in Italian detective on fog and crimes? It's a one of these These murder mysteries are real popular in Europe nowadays especially out of Sweden and Italy And I think France to a lesser degree

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

Cannibal Holocaust Snuff Film, Media Power

The 1980 horror film "Cannibal Holocaust" is discussed for its realistic depiction of violence, which led to the director's arrest on murder charges. The actors had signed contracts to disappear from the media for a year to fuel rumors that the film was a real snuff movie. The charges were only dropped after the "dead" actors appeared on a television show.

cannibal holocaust· snuff movie· luca barbareschi· italy· film promotion

2:11:08 and they're just doing a back... this is one of those things where after the show's over, they're talking about these people. And they told this story that I've never heard this story and it just seems like... Excuse me It's exactly what To show people the power of the media, I think there's a couple messages in this story. But listen to this... In addition to his acting career, Barbareschi is a well-known figure in Italy because of his political involvement having served as a member of parliament since 2008 He became famous in 1980 through his association with notorious horror film Cannibal Holocaust A film so realistic its director was arrested on murder charges

2:11:52 Barbareski was one of four actors killed in the film who signed contracts requiring them to stay out of all media for a year, in order to fuel rumors that the film was an actual snuff movie. Only when the contracts were cancelled and the actors appeared on a television show where the charges against the filmmaker dropped. What a great promotional campaign! No kidding? We should be doing that You know, like we get disappeared. It's just like whoops never heard from them again they're all gone wow that's fantastic yeah but the drawback was they arrested the director? Yeah for killing him well maybe for actually killing him

2:12:34 That's all of it. The Italian justice, you know that poor woman from where Washington or Oregon was stuck in the Italian justice system for all that time for supposedly killing a traveler? Yeah, her roommate. I mean you get stuck and that's it...I don't know. It's probably best to cancel the contract and bring these guys out of hiding. Wow! That's awesome. You know, I'm a little pissed off actually There was a fantastic, and I think it still exists. Maybe we even have a bigger shot at it now A great opportunity for some no agenda PR Because you know about this guy who got kicked off the plane for wearing an anti-TSA shirt?

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

Anti-TSA T-Shirt, Airline Passenger Removal

A 31-year-old doctoral student from Buffalo was removed from a flight for wearing a t-shirt that satirized the Department of Homeland Security. The shirt featured words like "bomb," "terrorist," and "take off your shoes." Despite passing TSA security, the pilot and airline personnel deemed the shirt a security risk, forcing the passenger to rent a car.

tsa· t-shirt· homeland security· buffalo· airline security

2:13:14 No, I don't know about this. Oh my God surprised me but none of it's this completely should have been our t-shirt Listen well booted from a flight for wearing a silly t-shirt That's exactly what a 31 year old doctor is student from Buffalo New York says happened a reject Guha says he was in his shirt that caused an airline supervisor to pull him off a flight Forcing him to rent a car and find his own way back home This is the shirt that he says sparked at all as As you can see it has a mark Department of Homeland Security seal around it are words bomb zomg ZOMG terrorists and alert level blood red run run take off your shoes Now a regent did did pass the TSA security. It was the pilot an airline personnel that decided he couldn't fly Why can't be?

2:14:06 No agenda show says take off your shoes and shut up slave TSA run-run, and that would be on the news. It should be our shirt! Yeah well this thing's you know I don't know who did that shit didn't get much credit for it either no but if they show the shirt in full frame yeah yeah that'd been good reminds me of that I saw a guy that had a t-shirt issue once they left him on the plane i took pictures of him blogged it And the guy was pretty funny about it. He had a shirt on, he's black guy and had a shirt on that said things that make my dick hard

2:14:44 And then there was a list Do you remember the I can't remember the list it's on that. I have to look at my thing one of them Was like number eight was your mom something like that The thing was offensive in some funny way, but it was quite hilarious and they was a big fuss on the plane stalled his takeoff Really yeah, so they made him put it somebody found a jacket crew jacket or something he had to put it on throughout the flight This is some old lady was complaining about it. We Listen I fly once in a while after she found a penny the bottom of her purse She looked up and saw this guy, and then she bitched about that so I know you probably didn't see this it might have been the story might have been in The New York Times that you received yesterday

CHAPTER 35 / 39 Discussion

William Binney, NSA Stellar Wind Surveillance

NSA whistleblower William Binney detailed the "Stellar Wind" program, which repurposed foreign intelligence tools for domestic spying on American citizens. Binney explained how the government maps "social graphs" across multiple domains—including banking and phone calls—to create a 10-year timeline of an individual's life. He noted that social networks like Facebook provide a "bonanza" of voluntary data for these surveillance systems.

william binney· nsa· stellar wind· domestic spying· facebook

2:15:32 Or maybe even the Sunday Times, but they had a video special on the New York times.com website Which I'm pretty sure is to discredit Republicans and George Bush But it's part of a documentary about a whistleblower an NSA whistleblowers name is William Binney Are you familiar with this guy? The name rings a bell, but no. William Binney... I might actually touch him. Let me look him up. Yeah. William Binney is the guy who blew the whistle on what is the name of it something wind basically the NSA warrantless wiretapping program which was... This was a program named Terrorist Surveillance Program

2:16:17 I pulled three short clips from this. The last one though, It just blew me away when I heard what he was actually saying and i think it warrants playing on this program. So here he is setting up with, because he created the back-end data mining which was initially intended for terrorists and that order to create this system was given before September 11th but then after September 11 something interesting happened. I was breaking different codes and data systems

2:17:01 doing data analysis against the Soviet Union. After 9-11, they took one of the programs I had done or the back end part of it and started to use it to spy on everybody in this country so that was a program they created called Stellar Wind That was separate and compartmented from regular activity that was ongoing because it was doing domestic spying All the equipment was coming in I knew something was happening but then when my the contractors I had hired came and told me what without the weather are doing it Was clear where all the software was going and what they were using it to do So against the Russians by the way, we of course are also official whistleblowers John you and I what did we blow? Oh

2:17:54 So then he has, who was the guy from the Pentagon Papers? Who was that reporter? Ellsberg. Ellsberg right. He wasn't a reporter He was a whistleblower or something. He was a whistleblower wasn't he? Oh yeah big time! He's an original great whistleblower. So so he sits down with him there in a pub and he shows him his BlackBerry and asks him a question we all kind of know the answer to Somebody told me they can listen to what were saying by having this even if it is turned off Here's the real grand design. Every domain, think of a domain as an activity A specific type of it Notice by the way he uses that word domain which is the same word The general, the major general used at the beginning of the show He talked about cyber domains so I give this credibility because of that Phone call or banking is another domain So if you think of graphing each domain and then

2:18:51 each graph and turning it in the third dimension. The trick now is to map through all the domains in that third dimension, pulling together all the attributes that any individual has in every domain so then now I can pull your entire life together from all those domains and map it out and show your entire life." So you'll recall when we had the Time Magazine Mark Zuckerberg cover article was on the cover. Inside the article, which very few people picked up on was that the director of the FBI Robert Mueller sticks his head in around the corner of the conference room where the interview is taking place and says and I quote hey i was in the building just wanted to say hi! And when you hear the words that William Binney uses in this last clip you'll be surprised

2:19:51 The purpose is to monitor, be able to monitor what people are doing. You build social networks for everybody that then turns into the graph and then you index all that data to that graph which means you can pull out a community that gives an outline of the life of everybody in the community And if you carry it over time from 2001 up you have 10 years worth life that you could lay out in a timeline. That involves... I mean, am i going crazy? Did I just hear him say you create social networks then you get the graph the social graph and then you can create a timeline what is being... This was a joke used as one liner in this show person of interest which I recommend to all NOA agenda listeners which is about a geek who invented this system he's talking about

2:20:46 little more advanced than in the fiction but he did say at one show, his associate says what do you mean you invented Facebook? He says oh no yeah we invented Facebook it was a lot of information that we couldn't get from the public but we realized they just voluntarily give it up to everybody on Facebook and its a bonanza. People just tell you yeah, I know he's what I'm doing or then we put together Facebook foursquare Twitter to a lesser extent but Facebook and Foursquare the two that keep track of everything you do And there's a couple other these well this thing that you probably don't know maybe you do is that? Facebook has now been forcing their timeline. Yeah, no, I know about your timeline right and people love the time They hate it people hate the timeline No, no Leo loves the timeline Really yeah

2:21:39 It goes on and on about how great it is, and I've heard other people love the timeline. I don't think you're right. Your wife- your wife is... No, there's a whole movement called, uh, I just got timelined, I just got the timeline. Your wife was complaining about getting the timeline! And she's hardcore! Yeah well She was bitching like, ehhhhh, FU Facebook, I don't want the timeline! Literally! I follow her on Facebook. I'm friends. Uh. Friends with her So for some reason they picked up a lot of generals in the clips today And here's, this one really made me angry. Because at first I thought oh this is a good guy This is former General Corelli and he is on a mission to remove the D from PTSD which I think is probably very correct

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General Corelli, One Mind for Research

Former General Peter Corelli is leading a campaign to remove the "D" from PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder) to reduce stigma. However, his organization, "One Mind for Research," is heavily partnered with pharmaceutical giants like Eli Lilly and Johnson & Johnson. Critics argue the true goal is to reclassify psychological trauma as a biological condition to justify long-term drug treatment.

ptsd· general corelli· eli lilly· pharmaceutical· brain disorders

2:20:46 little more advanced than in the fiction but he did say at one show, his associate says what do you mean you invented Facebook? He says oh no yeah we invented Facebook it was a lot of information that we couldn't get from the public but we realized they just voluntarily give it up to everybody on Facebook and its a bonanza. People just tell you yeah, I know he's what I'm doing or then we put together Facebook foursquare Twitter to a lesser extent but Facebook and Foursquare the two that keep track of everything you do And there's a couple other these well this thing that you probably don't know maybe you do is that? Facebook has now been forcing their timeline. Yeah, no, I know about your timeline right and people love the time They hate it people hate the timeline No, no Leo loves the timeline Really yeah

2:21:39 It goes on and on about how great it is, and I've heard other people love the timeline. I don't think you're right. Your wife- your wife is... No, there's a whole movement called, uh, I just got timelined, I just got the timeline. Your wife was complaining about getting the timeline! And she's hardcore! Yeah well She was bitching like, ehhhhh, FU Facebook, I don't want the timeline! Literally! I follow her on Facebook. I'm friends. Uh. Friends with her So for some reason they picked up a lot of generals in the clips today And here's, this one really made me angry. Because at first I thought oh this is a good guy This is former General Corelli and he is on a mission to remove the D from PTSD which I think is probably very correct

2:22:31 So post-traumatic stress disorder, he feels that it's stigmatizing by saying it is a disorder. You might be able to call it condition or disease but he just wants it to be post traumatic stress and so I was interviewed on a local channel But when I found out what's really behind this, I actually just got angry. Listen to this... Today he is CEO of One Mind for Research an organization seeking more solid answers on what has been an inexact science We have not gotten anywhere in having the kind of diagnostics we need To prove with any kind of certainty whether somebody has

2:23:12 battle fatigue or operational exhaustion as it was called after the Korean War, or in this instance post-traumatic stress. It's been called many things one thing it is not says General Corelli...is a disorder You talk about the stigma you want to you believe PTSD should lose the D I get rid of the d why? Because it's a barrier to care, it is not going to solve anything other than get people into treatment. Removing the stigma is only one step and treatment he says can only go so far I want to see the results of that treatment improve over time and I really believe the only way you do that is with no kidding research

2:23:54 The U.S. military is now reviewing all PTSD diagnoses since 2001, in part because of pressure from Senator Patty Murray. General Corelli calls that the wrong approach instead he says skip the review go for the reversal Go ahead and change them all It'll take less time and you will be a lot more correct. In righting the wrong, if the wrong was done then you will be going back and reviewing records where you don't have good diagnostic tools to be able to make that judgment." So it took me awhile to figure this out I was very confused because I agree with the stigmatism but then when i saw onemindforresearch.org You must look at this website John number 1 mind number 4 research dot org

2:24:39 What he's saying is, he wants the disorder removed so that it will no longer be something that is treated with talking or with a psychiatrist. Instead, he wants to drug these guys and gals. If you look at partners on One Mind for Research who pops up? Oh gee would it be Eli Lilly? Would it be Johnson & Johnson? Oh yeah, all of above. This guy is an a-hole of the highest magnitude and this onemindforresearch.org which does not appear to be a 501c3 or 4 corp at all I couldn't find them at all on GuideStar they're just pretending to be such good doers which all they want to do is drug people

2:25:34 And they've even got, here if you look at learn about brain disorders what's right there on the list? Tourette syndrome. They've got Alzheimer's, neurological trauma and then if you look at all a Tourette syndrome which is what I have one of the most common and least understood neurobiological disorders notice hey biological because then you can solve it with drugs Tourette's syndrome, TSI is an inherited disorder that affects about 1 in 200 Americans. Males are affected 3 to 4 times as often as females but this is known as a TBI traumatic brain... ummm I what does I for? Forget what it stands for But its just like wow! They just made him CEO because of course he's the company It's not an org they call it dot-org and they just want to drug these boys and girls Yeah

2:26:32 I found this shocking the shocking they wanted no Not just despicable. Drug the whole country. Yeah, turn us into zombies! Despicable Go back to this list of our partners... Yeah I know it's sad isn't it? Well I know that the list is bad enough but click on the Jed Foundation and tell me its not the same people just by look and feel of the website The Jed Foundation? Is under a T or J? No its right down at the bottom there are a bunch of logos down near the bottom Oh Jed what is Jed Don't know shit fun. Oh Yeah, same same site designer Exactly yeah And there's a bunch of other stuff promoting emotional half of us you know love is louder Love is louder what does that I don't know but there's no link to it? This has gotta be something funny love Is this these things are insidious oh

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Jed Foundation, MTV Mental Health Campaigns

The Jed Foundation and MTV's "Half of Us" campaign are scrutinized for their ties to the pharmaceutical industry. The foundation's board includes executives from drug companies, and its websites collect demographic data on students. The campaigns are characterized as "insidious" efforts to push medication on young people under the guise of social awareness and suicide prevention.

jed foundation· mtv· half of us· pharmaceutical· mental health

2:27:29 Just because the government is giving them, nobody wants to work for a living anymore actually make something. So the government's just you know giving money that sets up the whole country to be frontmen for the drug companies Yeah that's what it is yeah For students let's see can I get some free drugs somewhere? Half of us louder half of us dot who the half of us campaign. What does that mean? Half of us are nuts Yeah, half of us calm Wow this just keep going on and on and on it's a bottomless pit of crap half Of us what is this man pain part here's the here's the love is louder group of foundation Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my gosh Foundation MTV John go to half of us calm they've got

2:28:12 The... the Batman killer right there. On the homepage, with his orange hair- it's not him but it could have been him Oh! He is Jersey Shore's Vinny opens up about dealing with anxiety and stress Oh my god we're doomed Tell your story We're doomed Let me see this This another one this is also MTV MTV You And The Jed Foundation oh my god this is disgusting If you go to Love is Louder, they have a bunch of shit at the bottom from MTV again. But there's Love Is Not Abuse which is another website? Here's Vinny from the Jersey Shore. Let's listen to what Vinny has to say. When I was younger my anxiety started off with anxiety attacks so I would have panic attacks from a young age especially in high school that's when it really started happening These guys will take money for anything Really bad panic attacks

2:29:07 Out of nowhere, you know. You don't really there's nothing really to pinpoint it. That's why I was called a panic attack It's out of nowhere all in your subconscious see what my anxiety that I've been going through my whole life starts to Interfere with my job my school or your job? That's screwing in the hot tub with a camera things that I do in my everyday life then it starts to become A problem one of your resources is actually to remove yourself from the situation at hand and I was on the Jersey Shore. It's a terrible environment for me to be in when i'm anxious because there is drinking involved, there is fighting involved lack of sleep, lack of privacy and it's just not a good place... It's called how reality show programming my friend So I was like you know what? In order for me to get better and do this um... You know how to go home and recharge my batteries We're pretty crazy environment when we film

2:29:58 I feel bad for my roommates. I feel bad for any inconvenience that caused them because they really didn't have that many resources to help me, man." Alright is enough of this clown. I was just waiting for him to say I took drugs! That's all i'm waiting for. You may be waiting for a while he's just yakking for no apparent reason Well I'm gonna look... Thisishalfofus.com Half Of Us are insane. What half are you? John odds are one of us is insane Yeah we know which one that is already So, uh... This is a bottomless pit of crap. Yeah Wow I'm starting at do something dot org Awesome things! We could spend the whole week going through one of these

2:30:47 One of these things out, one after another of these. And they're crap! The campaign partners for Love is Louder includes the Ad Council of course reachout.com Stop Out Bullying Who's on the board of this Jed Foundation? Let's find out... Let's see... The director David Kraft from the Kraft Group Really? Uh-huh. Don't eat mayonnaise! Gotta be a little more creative than that... William Murie, who's the Senior Vice President of Marketing for Forrest Pharmaceuticals. Oh! Yeah I bet you're helping out. Michael Saitow, CEO of JDS Therapeutics and Nutrition. Aw man. This is just... Bullshit! It's just horrible

2:31:43 Sorry I opened that can of worms. Yeah, every time you go into some of these so-called public service websites You run into a bottomless pit of nothing but bull crap Pharmaceuticals man Magellan Health Services presents check to the Jed Foundation Oh really? Huh what a coincidence Wow! I wonder why... They could push more drugs on our children MTV should be ashamed themselves I mean, yeah. I help sell a lot of Skittles but that was the colors of the rainbow! That wasn't pharmaceutical drugs!

2:32:26 Oh man. So let's get one more thing done here, I know it's addictive isn't it? This by itself is always...I have these tricks that I like to do and you have yours that are slightly different which makes them kind of interesting. Yeah, I like doing GuideStar so I'll do Jed Foundation GuideStar. GuideStar is actually a good resource and I always forget to use that. That's what I do man don't worry about it! It's what I do. My thing is the cut-and-paste The address and suite right right right right right find out what else is that the same 1140 Broadway number 803? There's anything did you find anything no no this looks like the Jed Foundation is there. There's a lot of It's one it's just one of these small jet foundation very small net income seven hundred and eighty two thousand dollars small small potatoes

2:33:16 Small potatoes. How much was it? $782,000 A million just a million yeah not even a million small potatoes But it'll be because these guys are getting money from other things they're also part of but it'll be a 501c3 and No they haven't filed their 2011 form which don't have to I guess that's still 2010 Let me just see who's making money See, the thing is when you do a 501c3 you don't have to list your donors. So they made one point... Is it the four that you don't have to list? No three no the four you do so they um they made 1.2 million dollars oh I'm sorry yeah 1.2 million last year uh little under 800 000 this year total assets 2.2 million so they're doing well

2:34:10 Foundation MTVU partnered to develop a Peabody award-winning Emmy nominated social awareness campaign. Woot! So much for the Peabodys and the Emmys, huh? Oh they've been co-opted years ago. Yeah that's correct. I found the privacy policy of ULifeline which lists what information does The Jed Foundation collect The Jed Foundation website including jedfoundation.org, halfofus.com, transitionyear.org, you should look at that one, transitionyear.org, ulifeline.org, loveislouder.com and so on may offer you registration forms or other forms that ask users to provide contact information or demographic information they may also gather anonymous information which maybe used by us are shared with third parties

2:34:56 This is information that does not personally identify you. From time to time we may use standard cookies, blah blah blah. No! Not the cookies! What does the Jed Foundation do with the information? It's a nice little sheet of paper. Yeah what do they do with it? We use the information that you provide us by filling out forms on our website and sending you information about us and our services. You even used your IP address, blah blah blah... Links to other sites security children's guidelines access to your profile huh I'm all for helping kids who are in trouble, but you know when you have the pharmaceutical companies involved You've got to be very very suspicious of this especially when they talk about research and treatment Which is goes right back to this to this general Corelli? Man hate these guys. They're killing our kids. They're killing just killing killing killing killing killing

CHAPTER 38 / 39 Discussion

Blue on Green Violence, Ramadan Fighting Season

General John Allen attributed the recent spike in "blue on green" violence—where Afghan forces attack their Western trainers—to the pressures of the Ramadan fasting season. The term "blue on green" refers to the colors used on military transponder screens to distinguish friendlies from local forces. The military claims hunger and heat during the religious holiday contributed to the increase in insider attacks.

afghanistan· blue on green· ramadan· general allen· transponders

2:35:55 Yeah, good one transition year org your source for emotional health at college. Gee I wonder what that means free drugs Wow No, no, I'm a student hello. I'm a parent Name tag to get started now don't just don't just leave it alone Just don't I got another general General Allen this guy we know oh And I've been searching for this blue on green violence thing, trying to figure out the meme and what it's all about. One of our producers actually gave me the inside scoop on why the color is blue and green. Green are US troops have transponders so that when air support is coming in from the drones, the transponders will see our troops, ie., the friendlies pop up as green

2:36:51 From their trip from their transponders they wear in their uniform on the battlefield So that would not be the guys you want to drone and I am blue of course. I don't think they have transponders But everybody else is just blue so it was if it's blue on the screen Drone those guys because there are Afghani police And what is happening? Is these police forces who have been trained are turning around on our own troops, the guys who have trained them. And I've seen this training in Iraq is total bullcrap. It really is that they're trained with wooden AK-47 mockups and a real weapon they turn around and shoot our guys

2:37:32 Well, we found out what the problem was. Do you know why this all of a sudden heated up? Why all these numbers just start happening quite a bit John can you guess in your farthest imagination what the reason is for this? Is it having something to do with poppies? Close! It's a very tough time for these forces and in particular this year Ramadan as it is known in most of the Muslim world Ramadan fell in the middle of a fighting season. The fighting season? Oh, the season! During some other harshest time for the climate and much of the region which we fight and so that the daily pressures that are on some these troops compounded by the sacrifice associated with fasting uh... the nature of our operational tempo remembering that

2:38:24 Afghan troops have gone to the field and they have stayed in the field. And they've been in combat now for years We believe that the combination of many of these particular factors may have come together during the last several weeks, to generate the larger numbers that you point to It's because they were hungry Seriously! Hunger pangs... it's because they were hungry This is all over the web Hunger pangs and that's why they got, they went nuts. And they started killing the troops that trained them. Hold on one second are you leaving honey? So you're not doing NaPu? Oh okay next time... You look very pretty alright I love you. Man will you text me pictures yeah oh That's Mickey! I thought you were looking in a mirror No so here's the problem so One of our neighbors has a French director he's in town He's shooting parts of his movie

CHAPTER 39 / 39 Discussion

Show Outro, Greenpeace Gazprom Stunt

The show concludes with a critique of a Greenpeace activist's phone interview on "Democracy Now!" while allegedly being sprayed by water cannons on a Russian oil rig. The hosts perform a satirical reenactment of the "fake" sounding report. Final announcements include a reminder of the Thursday broadcast and an upcoming appearance on "This Week in Tech."

greenpeace· gazprom· democracy now· twit· sign-off

2:39:26 in Austin. Funny, Woody Allen's in San Francisco as we speak Yeah but he has a French actress and so our neighbor is you know of course he's like a good neighbor he's pimping out Mickey And he said yeah, so he's got a really nice boat. He said well Yeah come on the boat and I was supposed to be picked up by them after the show she's leaving now to get on The boat with a hot French actress and the French director and they were gonna pick me up after the show But now doing twit so now i'm gonna miss all the hotness Yeah, I'm doing it for the show ironic yeah But I'm doing it for the show because they want to promote our show yes of course That's the only reason you have to do it really always get to win the boat Docs You can take them all and no we know because there's gonna. Be over the day will be over Okay, so I miss all that and Mickey just walked in she's like looking smoking hot Crap well there you have it karma wrap us up well Let's see I have

2:40:35 Well, we already know Lance Armstrong. That art story is kind of funny The only thing I got a couple things here Brazilian heritage is amusing because they're they found some you know slave quarters or something now They don't what to do about building over it but that's just when they got me the most was this I've got it listed as hilarious idiot. This is a bunch of Greenpeace guys, including the head guy of Greenpeace apparently on the horn supposedly from the Gazprom there's apparently in northern Russia they decided to drill in some of the Arctic ice and Greenpeace is against it

2:41:13 So, they are now on the Gazprom platform and they're being sprayed down with a high-pressure water hose. Now I want you to listen to this and tell me – and you can cut it off anytime you want – but tell me how you can be on a microphone listening with an IFB or earpiece of some sort while you're being sprayed? on a Gazprom platform, which has got to be out in the middle of nowhere while you're being sprayed with it with a high-speed hose and this idiot that runs the Democracy Now! show she is all in on this idea. We're turning now to the Arctic because we just got Kumi Naidoo on the phone he's one of six activists with Greenpeace who've occupied a Russian oil rig to protest drilling and the Arctic

2:41:59 the rig belonging to Gazprom. Kumi, can you tell us what is happening? When we tried to reach you a few minutes ago, we got a message saying you couldn't talk and were being sprayed by water cannons We are having stable high pressure holds. We've been holding on for about three hours but before we can hear the whole heavy balance sheet, we are in a tent. We simply want to make the point that building in the Arctic is completely reckless and will accelerate And who precisely is spraying you with the water hoses?

2:42:56 They employ employees and the security of Gazprom. Gazprom, the oil company that is probably going to be if we don't stop them the first company to start doing oil in the Arctic. And they've been there for over an hour so really struggling to stay up here under the weather at this moment So you are on the deck of the Gazprom oil drilling rig where they're shooting you with water cannons? Gazprom doesn't actually have a license to drill at the moment. It expired 12 days ago Alright, so now this is...so they have a picture up I presume because this is a phone call right

2:43:43 No, there was nothing. It was just a picture of the guy's face Right So I think you and I should give this one a try See now when I heard this I said oh this sounds exactly like Adam's bull crap reports Let's do it! Let's do it! Let's do a report Hold on hold on a second Hold on a second. Okay, you have we have well hold on we can't do anymore We're gonna we've got a we've got to report again Adam Curry is on the deck of the USS something I don't know what ship it is, but he's on the deck He's being sprayed with water cannons by the Navy Yes, hello John, this is Augustus doing his spray and all that stuff, we are getting water cannon

2:44:38 Adam, can you hear me? Who is spraying you Adam? That ladies and gentlemen was Adam Curry being sprayed by Gazprom. We'll get the final report from him later. He's risking his life! Dude, we are so in the wrong business. I'm telling you we could be making millions doing this stuff for real It's like such garbage! it's awesome and that was good Thank You John that would that was a good little theater of the mind Perfect yeah, I think he just dropped words in Gazprom Yeah, just Gazprom Putin Message is clear

2:45:35 Alright everybody, I... You should have thrown Pussy Riot into it. Oh damn! I forgot. Darn. Alright so there will be a No Agenda Producer update not with Ms. Mickey but uh..I guess the boys and girls are all getting together that's always fun to listen to That's coming up on noagendastream.com right after the program ends here Umm I shall be on This Week in Tech Live at 3 Gitmo Nation West time 5 Drone Star State Time Which gun shall I pull on Leo this time? The zombie slayer, the zombie slayer or I can pull... Or the AR-15. We're gonna do the AR-15 That might scare him though Yeah that's too much

2:46:21 That's overkill. We'll be back on Thursday, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA If you enjoyed this program perhaps you'd like to give us some value for the value we provided you with From Austin Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i have a bell I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.