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00:00 John, how come you're not wearing your hazmat suit? I'm dead. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Sunday, March 11, 2012. Time for Gizmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 3-9-0. This is no agenda. Not letting go of my stolen hour here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we ask the question, what's with this weather? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. What kind of weather do you have? Looks like it's going to rain. Oh man. You know, south by southwest started.

00:42 And we had had a beautiful week and the minute everyone came into town, thunder, lightning, nonstop rain. It brought it with him. Nonstop rain, I tell you. I feel, and I actually, I feel kind of sad because now it's my town. You feel sad for the South by Southwest crowd that can afford to just give essentially Gallivant over to Austin to party? No, no, no. I feel sad because I know that rain means less money. for the for the city of Austin. Yeah. And so yesterday we went to doesn't mean more money because they have to go to the bars and I don't think so. I think that when because they're in the bar, everything happens in the bar. Everyone, every company has a deal with the bar and like the bar Maggie Maggie Mays. I mean, they've got like five parties. So they they've they've split it up and they have seen that two days and they got

01:36 The Dutch it'll be the Dutch house and so you know they're really really smart and by the way you just walk in and they're like hey how you doing you here for yeah I'm here for you yeah that's it yeah just sign in you know so just sign in like I am Dan from dildos are us calm you know just sign with some fictitious name and it's free as D duck d-uck And it's free drinks. You know, it's great. It's everything's everything's paid for it's it's really it's fantastic American way well in socialism for the rich free enterprise for the poor so we went to the Austin market on 4th which was very small a because whenever it rains when it's really bad weather than less guys that come in some people drive 100 miles to sell their stuff there and

02:27 Of course there was a lot less parking because some of these parking lots have been rented out for you know I know companies like GE with their GE imagination stuff who cares it's all money for the city I'm happy and I park and normally the parking system here is you park your car and then there's a cabinet on a stick and it has slots and You look at the number you're parked in and then you literally fold up dollar bills in the amount of six and shove them into the slot and so each dollar bill, you know, you push the Previous bill into the slot and at the end you've got your last dollar in there There's a little thing hanging on a cord and it's like a piece of metal like a shiv And you and you push the last dollar in that's how we pay for our parking here and it's six bucks for a whole day. So

03:17 Now all of a sudden there's a dude there charging 20. I'm like, what is this? He's like, South by Southwest, brother. I'm like, okay. And then you go sit at Halcy and have a nice cup of coffee. And it was like, hey, would you like some free coconut milk? No, no, please keep on walking. Hey man, sign up to Belly Card here. I got my iPad right here, sign up. It's just like you get accosted continuously. I wanted a sticker that says I live here, leave me alone. That's a you actually could get that you could probably sell that. I could probably sell yeah yeah yeah so it's uh it's uh I live here I live here just leave me alone

03:58 But we recognize each other. So did you go to any of the events? It sounds like you went to at least a couple. No, not really. Well, Miss Molly Wood is here, as you know, and she came by. And so yesterday we went to see her. She was at what was the bar, the Thirsty Nickel, I think. The Thirsty Nickel? Yeah, the Thirsty Nickel. Wow, yeah on the 6th Street, which is clean 6 see dirty 6 is where I'd normally hang out that's the other side of 6th Street like way other side and Yeah, just a whole bunch of dudes, you know, and it's funny how how people wear their cowboy boots because they're coming to Texas

04:38 It's like we don't actually wear that a lot in Austin, just so you know. You're not like blending in with... Blending in with cowboy boots. With your alligator cowboy boots. It was actually, so I guess the... That's for Fort Worth, you people! I guess the bar had been paid for by Second Market. Are you familiar with this company? You should be. If you named 25 of the companies that are doing stuff, I wouldn't know 22 of them. You'd know these guys. Three of them I'd only kind of heard of. And then if you went back next year and named the same 25, I'd have heard of them all because they'd all be out of business. Well, Second Market is the company that buys or trades

05:20 restricted stock of private companies and oh and they became and they became yeah they became well-known because they are the guys that started trading in the Facebook stock and them to go public or else yeah and it was it was kind of weird you know cuz then the CEO gets up and he has a flower point on the on the wall and like yeah we are excited I'm like huh what yeah no yeah free drinks yeah we like that And he starts going through his whole spiel and by dropping an F-bomb every other sentence. Ah, he's a cusser. Yeah, which you know in our show we drop him from time to time when appropriate, but this is not appropriate. It's like it's... He's a guy selling stocks. Was he trying to sound like a truck driver or gangster or a mobster? No, hip. Doesn't make me have any confidence in his company. I think he was trying to sound hip. Nothing hip about cussing. Well, he's trying to make a point.

06:13 And he's saying does anyone here know what high-frequency trading is and his point is gonna be that the stock market doesn't care about you if you go public and that you know your stock is basically 60% of all stock is traded by computers and so he's like hey does anyone know? So he has to get into this whole thing of telling you why it's great to work with them and I'm standing way at the back And he's like, did anyone know what high frequency trading is? And it's like, like crickets. Cause all these people, nobody in the audience knew what it was. Well, then I yelled out from the back, bothered to raise their hands. I yelled out from the back. It's a scam.

06:52 He's like, are you talking about high frequency trading or second market? Yes. And he said, yes. Well, what's the let's look at a more technical explanation. I like, OK, whatever. Yeah. So anyway, so tonight there's we're just there to kibitz and heckle. Yes. Heckle. That's what I'm here for. Exactly. And then I guess tonight we're actually gonna because you know this thing doesn't stop right I think after I'd say it lasts for about two and a half months. Yeah, exactly I think after Tuesday, that's when the music part is and I'm kind of interested in that so you know it is kind of cool. There's lots of

07:30 There's lots of local musicians who are playing for free all over the place and we wound up the that night we wound up like Some party thrown thrown by a Russian girl, but this is like real Austin And Russian girl yeah, this seems. There's a huge Russian and Polish contingent in Austin, and they're interesting I think a guy comes up to me Like a little mousy guy with like a 70s zoot suit on. He's like, hello. Hey, you. He's like, I'm like your hair. My name is Johnny feel good. I'm an artist and I make movies. Yes. I'm in the right town. Johnny feel good. You look at his website, J feel good.com. Is that actually there? Yeah. Yeah. I'm Johnny feel good. He's cool. These are the real dudes.

08:19 Anyway, so tonight. I think we're we are going to hook up with molly We're going to check out the c-net party because we've been invited and I've also been invited to the rack space party Which is right across the street? We're not partiers The fine art of Johnny feel-good Johnny feel-good kicks it man He makes interesting art actually I like what he does. Yeah, I'm gonna buy something maybe anyway in the morning to you John C. Dvorak in the morning to you Adam curry and all ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air from Northern Silicon Valley yes, and in the morning to all of our

08:57 Live stream listeners human resources. They are all of them every single one of them and they're in this chat room But no agenda chat net no agenda stream calm good to see you guys They're all charged up and ready to go and of course this morning I awoke with the feeling that the apocalypse had descended upon us as it was dark. Okay, that's it The Sun will not rise today. And of course, this is because we lost an hour for no apparent good reason and And we discuss this twice a year at least every year and it still makes me mad. Well, what's interesting to me is that, hold on a second. Oh, I changed it. My XP machine that I do the show on refused, apparently never got the right update or something, it refused to jump ahead. Oh really? Yeah. What operating system are you running? The Vista machine which I write on, which is a different computer. Yeah. It jumped ahead no problem.

09:56 So I was disconcerned by that. But what operating system are you running on the Bogative machine? The Bogative machine is XP. No, but what operating system? Windows XP. Okay. Sorry. I mean, do you think it'd be more a operating system thing than a... Yeah, it would be the operating system. Yeah. That's what it is. Somehow XP didn't get the word. Because they changed it you know last year if you remember yeah, I know they change it all the time and why John? Why over the date up a week? Yeah, let's just do it really why because we can again so I remain of the opinion that this is only for good for one thing and one thing only is Just to get us all to do something together and

10:42 It's a training exercise. That's a good theory. Look at that. Look at what I can make him do now. Ha ha ha. Stupid idiots. I'll make them change their clocks. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Who is this person that you're supposed to be? This is a cross between Kissinger and Brzezinski. Kissinger was on Fareed Zakaria. He sounds more like Hillary. Kissinger, he's really, is really, is really good. He lost his voice completely. Fareed, it is very good to be here on your show as always. Not possible for you to talk. Yes, yes. Iranians are no good. That was his message. That's highly entertaining to everybody listening in. Yeah, exactly.

11:25 I am very happy though, John. I feel that we appropriately and properly equipped our listeners, as you know we call them all producers, but they still are listeners. I think we equipped them properly for the onslaught of phony-coney that pretty much commenced right after we wrapped up the show on Sunday. It was unbelievable. CNN was taking this bogative message to such heights that every hour the view count would increase by 10 million. It was literally 50 million, 60 million, 70 million! That view count seemed a little odd to me. I think it was, I think it had been botted.

12:08 Who even says that the view count is not bogative by definition? No, it could be. I mean, it's possible, but I think it could have been botted. You just make a call. I like that. That's my new term, by the way, botted. Botted. Okay. So let me, but they did let up. Well, actually, I have three little clips. So let me play the CNN clip where they bring in Barbara. Now Barbara is the horse face who is the Pentagon shill. She has her own little studio there at the Pentagon and she just sits around twiddling her thumbs until someone says, hey, say this. Oh, okay. And but she's old, so she looks kind of authoritative.

12:50 And she spilled the beans I have to say on what this whole Kony thing is about in the following flash news report from the Pentagon. Barbara to talk about that because Barbara as we know the president sent about a hundred military advisors to Uganda in just in back in October to help the local forces hunt down Kony. Are they making any progress? Well, they are on the ground now in a number of locations, Suzanne. Some very remote areas, Uganda, as David pointed out, the Central African Republic, South Sudan, about 100 troops working as trainers and advisors. But the areas sometimes are quite unsettled, so they're combat equipped.

13:30 but their mission is to help these african military forces go after connie uh... this is a result of some congressional uh... laws being passed some action in washington to try and pressure some progress to get this man now listen to the word she's using here some congressional laws some things you know to get some action That's basically hiding the truth. That's something you don't need to know about that. Just focus on Kony who is responsible for some of the worst atrocities on the African continent. I would just very quickly point out though there is a broader US military strategy at work in Africa. She blew it there. What? Be quiet, you stupid idiot.

14:12 the and terrorists and al-qaeda and thugs and terrorists. Like Joseph Kony, it leads to destabilization, it leads to terrorists being able to move into these areas and take advantage. That's kind of the broader mission that the US military is on. Train and advise the African militaries and then move in and establish AFRICOM, which is exactly what we said. So she's kind of spilling the beans, which I was surprised. She almost gave us some fair reporting there. The Guardian actually received an email from the State Department. I guess the Guardian pretended to ask a real question. Their real question was how long the US will continue to operate militarily in Central Africa.

15:12 It came back, quote, we cannot say specifically how long advisors will remain deployed, but this is not an open-ended commitment. No, we're regularly reviewing the advisory efforts to assess whether it is having the intended impact and whether we should continue the deployment. The State Department added, over the last several years, hundreds of thousands of people around the world, especially young people, have mobilized and expressed concern for the communities in Central Africa placed under siege by the LRA. We greatly appreciate their commitment to draw attention to the LRA's atrocities and help those affected communities. So we know that nothing has really happened for the past six years.

15:54 And I was happy to see that this girl who grew up in Uganda, has family in Uganda, posted her own little YouTube clip. And I want to play an excerpt from that. Very nice. She's probably about 17, 18 years old and someone sent me the link to her YouTube webcam video. And I always talk to my brother who's never left Uganda. and my grandmother, one of my grandmothers, both of them still live in Uganda as well. And every single time that I have been there, and I usually stay there for months at a time, not once do they ever mention Kony. So why are they making it seem like Uganda is one big hellhole because of Kony? Isn't she good? Because it's not. It's not! So this video isn't really giving you the correct information.

16:54 So before you go out and you're like stop Kony 2012 and change your Facebook profile picture and make all these tweets about Kony You should probably educate yourself. Thank you. It gives me hope for the world when I see this. Well, I do have a note here from my economic hit man who writes in every so often. Oh Okay who claims he was with USAID for years and now he's with, I don't know, someone else. Wait a minute, you gotta, you gotta know, this is crazy. Usually I get all the stuff. I have a personal economic hitman. Very nice. Like you have your personal producers that keep sending you cool stuff that they never send to me. Yeah, good, I'm glad you got some cool stuff to share.

17:35 I appreciate your take on the Kony viral video having lived and worked in Uganda. The thing is that what I saw him live in the street of terror during the Kony administration while working there. He's not at rest as was suggested and continues to hold sway over the region. I also agree that Moe Seven-Nee, the president of Uganda, is a dictator that the USA supports through aid programs but the USA has been doing that long before any oil was discovered there. The USA has been working to reduce the prevalence of AIDS, blah blah blah. They've also been working on education, economic development for 30 years. So Adam believes that oil is the driving force and I totally disagree. For the longest time I've been hoping that the USA would take pity on Uganda and send troops to help Ugandan forces and find a rest and kill Kony.

16:54 So before you go out and you're like stop Kony 2012 and change your Facebook profile picture and make all these tweets about Kony You should probably educate yourself. Thank you. It gives me hope for the world when I see this. Well, I do have a note here from my economic hit man who writes in every so often. Oh Okay who claims he was with USAID for years and now he's with, I don't know, someone else. Wait a minute, you gotta, you gotta know, this is crazy. Usually I get all the stuff. I have a personal economic hitman. Very nice. Like you have your personal producers that keep sending you cool stuff that they never send to me. Yeah, good, I'm glad you got some cool stuff to share.

17:35 I appreciate your take on the Kony viral video having lived and worked in Uganda. The thing is that what I saw him live in the street of terror during the Kony administration while working there. He's not at rest as was suggested and continues to hold sway over the region. I also agree that Moe Seven-Nee, the president of Uganda, is a dictator that the USA supports through aid programs but the USA has been doing that long before any oil was discovered there. The USA has been working to reduce the prevalence of AIDS, blah blah blah. They've also been working on education, economic development for 30 years. So Adam believes that oil is the driving force and I totally disagree. For the longest time I've been hoping that the USA would take pity on Uganda and send troops to help Ugandan forces and find a rest and kill Kony.

18:22 I've decried the fact that Africa never mattered enough to previous presidents to do anything. I was opposed to the war in Iraq and slight supportive of our incursion into Afghanistan and he goes on with his anti-war rant. Are you kidding me? I'm just telling you what he wrote. But he says, Coney, like the former taxi driver who became the dictator in Liberia, needs to be hunted down and sent to trial. Then he says, but this is the thing that's kind of interesting. I was thinking about you three weeks ago when I was in Malawi where the Chinas have taken over an exchange for oil drilling rights in Lake Malawi. They're out of control building government buildings and the president has come out against the USA and is now trying to get rid of the USAID and DFID which is the British version of USAID so they do it too.

19:07 He's created an artificial shortages and has run out of hard currency. They are trading butter for petrol with neighboring countries. Anyway, this is always correct and this time he was a little off. Okay, all right. So economic hit man. First of all, John, you need new friends because now the psyops is all over you. The CIA has been in Uganda since 1967 and that is a fact and I have personal knowledge of that. The CIA has been in Uganda since 1967. The British, of course, took over Uganda early. And it has not always been about oil. It has been about an incredible wealth in minerals and other great God-given gifts to this earth that have been extracted from Uganda. But of course, this is also about Sudan. The CIA has been very close with Sudan for decades. In fact, in 2005, the CIA tightened

20:05 Their ties with the Sudanese intelligence and that is most definitely about oil So I don't understand why he's saying all of that But the one thing I will agree with is this in to a large degree to a large degree and have some other examples of that is about Getting the China's out. We are still at it in a big proxy kerfuffle with the Chinas. We're just trying to block them wherever we go. Wherever we go. For example, I just figured this one out because a note came over the transom about... well here's the headline. Key pipeline safe despite Myanmar fighting, says China. I'm like, huh? Really? Turns out the Chinas started building a pipeline the end of 2010

21:02 the but there's a group there which I'm sure is a soon to be deemed what should we call them Al-Qaeda? Al-Qaeda in the Myanmar province or something? Myanmar, we'll call them Al-Qaeda. AQ Burma. AQ Burma. Yeah, AQ, there we go. Give them a cool little name, the AQM. And this of course explains why clippity-clop Lucifer Clinton all of a sudden shows up in Myanmar because he wants to block that pipeline. Making this is what this is how she does it she goes up there. Hey, you know that pipeline. Yeah, I don't think it's a good idea. You won't have to have to get the Karachi Independence Army Oh a catching Independence Army all fired up and we just might have to blow up that pipeline you watch you watch this is gonna happen this is a big deal this pipeline for the Chinas because they're basically they don't have any direct routes and it's

21:54 It's just wherever we can block them and but hopefully at the same time turn around and sell them our oil and gas or are the ones that we control through the pipeline such as the Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India pipeline will do it. I mean, I don't know why would we be selling the Chinese oil at all? They have the third or fourth biggest oil company in the world. I don't know why they need the pipeline. You better figure that out. Yeah. Anyway, it doesn't matter because

22:38 All of this is irrelevant because we don't need to watch the news. All we have to do is listen to the wise words. Who is the wisest woman in America, John? When she says something, everyone stops dead in their tracks because she said it, therefore it's so. Who could that be? Erin Burnett. Very close, very close. But I'm talking on a global scale. This woman is so fit. Oprah Winfrey. Oh, no, prettier. hotter hotter than her come on and actually has influence she's marrying Angelina Jolie I don't think I know anybody that doesn't hate Joseph Kony and anybody who works in the international field has been aware and I've been to Uganda and in Congo and been to the International Criminal Court myself and spoken with them

23:24 with the chief prosecutor about the case and he's the one that we all want to see in jail. The group who made the video, Invisible Children, have come under fire from sceptics who say it twists the story and suffers from factual inaccuracies. But Angelina says the bottom line is that Kony is a terrible person and the more people know it, the better. He's an extraordinarily horrible human being. His time has come. And it's lovely to see the young people are raising up as well. He's a horrible person. Nobody, I don't know, anybody doesn't want him dead. It's literally what she said. Can you imagine? She says, I've been to Uganda. I've been there. Really? She, she, she like lands at the airport and goes roaming around and gets a cab and stops at the store. I doubt it. That's right.

24:13 And I got a radio spot, I'm sorry, a television commercial sent to me from one of our producers in South Africa. As China is everywhere, remember we've got a... Big oil strikes off the off the coast there We've got from Djibouti all the way down to South Africa and of course we're everywhere And he says this is how the slaves are being programmed in South Africa this Commercial as audio was played during a rugby game on television In 1883 our pioneers from the north gave the world a blueprint for success Many have said that we have since deviated from it

25:00 What they do not realize is that we are forging a new one. Here it comes. A new world order is on the rise. 129 years in the making. A new world order is on the rise. They've been programmed down there, dude. Well, let's take a look at the what is this 129 years reference? I don't know that I don't know that I don't know I'm gonna try it caught my attention. I'm twice so specific. It was like a hundred years 130 years 129 so that puts it at what year let's just Put that into the book of knowledge and see what pops up 129 years of American labor civil war where civil war

25:45 Now Denver's Mount Vincent home for children 129 years Knights of Columbus, maybe after and maybe that's it the Knights of Columbus are taking over the world. We just type in. Oh, okay Darwin died on in 29 years ago. Here we go George Marshall was born 129 years ago to Marshall plan Scott John Ross who was African hero to be honored 129 years after his death Look at me who was that who was John Scott John Ross 29 years ago the Battle of Rorke's drift was ah there you found it Yeah, small number of British soldiers successfully fought off an attack Mm-hmm Oh he achieved hero status when the settlers at Port Natal were struck down with sickness and lacked supplies and medicines to survive That doesn't sound like it does it?

26:41 Well, it's a mystery. But I'm sure... 29 years ago to this day, Rorke's Drift down on British soldiers, off an attack by between 3,500 and 4,000 Zulus. Yeah, that's exactly. Those spear-chuckers, I tell ya! Popular myths surrounding games should they mostly Welsh but only 11% were most of the soldiers were in the first and so I don't build this can't be it when we're the the boor was a crap when we're the boor wars That wasn't 129 years. Oh either that doesn't sound like it sounds like more like 60 years ago, so I seen it was that was the boor wars was Well hold on a second 1880

27:23 Maybe it has something to do with that. Yeah, 1880 to 1881. I think that's I think we've struck it John It was the Boer Wars. Why is that got to do with the New World Order? I don't shut up accept it and watch the rugby slave. What's your problem? Don't be questioning things just take the mental programming, but that seems like That seems like it would be it if you take 2012 and subtract 1881 you get 131 so yes that I guess the the Boer Wars that could be it I found it ah

28:02 On a crackpot site. Curry.com? Napoleon was born in 1760, Hitler was born in 1889, the difference 129 years. Napoleon came to power in 1804. Wait a minute, wait a minute. 1833, the difference 128. Wait a minute, so let's go back to this spot for a second. So they're saying what started 129 years ago is finally becoming the new world order. So they're basically saying With our great leader Adolf Hitler's The New World Order was born is that is that is that your theory because I'm like it entered Vienna in 1812 Hitler entered Vienna in 1941 the difference a hundred and twenty nine years I think we have a new donation amount one to niner. It is a very magical number Let's listen to the spot one more time in 1883

28:59 Our pioneers from the North gave the world a blueprint for success. Okay, in 1883... Yeah, we missed that. Many have said that we have since deviated. But from the North? Germany is to the North. So is... uh... yeah, well... Yeah, of course. What we do not recognize is that we are forging a new one. A new world order is on the rise. 129 years in the making. The Six Nations. Exclusive to Supersport. Proudly brought to you by Sasfin Bank. A partner. I see what they're really talking about.

29:37 January in 1883 the Ontario Rugby Football Union became Okay, I Got it. There you go. That's it. I'm right here some something like that. I think it's a I think it's a mystical magical number though I think it's very important. We need to we need to keep that one. I've only coded. Yes, keep it alive Very nice. So anyway Very good Stay on it and Just got a certain point actually almost got mad man. You're like Don Lemon was bringing in kids with their faces cut off online You know live and you know, it's like yeah, well you could sure okay It was just like anyone that no we should probably thank some executive producers. Yeah, but it is all about Africom and you'll see more of this word popping up in the vernacular of the media and how important it is because of course it's just like al-qaeda and

30:34 Just like Al-Qaeda, there's thugs and terrorists and all kinds of horrible people there. Horrible, horrible, horrible people. And that has nothing to do with the Chiners. Nothing to do with... Don't look over here. So we got a couple good donations this week for the... as executive producers, including one anonymous one for 2012. Now is this a... We have a knighthood for that, don't we? Is this the first 2012 knight? Yeah, it is. He doesn't want to be talked about and he's got nothing to say and it's not about the Dave Matthews challenge. Yeah, because you asked him specifically. I specifically asked him about that because I don't want to throw away a good anecdote. And I have to say... I'm actually surprised nobody

31:18 No, no, we John nobody could know I'm very happy because what this means to me John is that there are people I mean hundreds of millions of dollars are thrown away at worthless compromised initiatives like public television public radio seriously worthless and compromised and just completely bogative and And the same people who I'm sure contribute to outfits like that are waking up and are being exposed to our no agenda program. And they're saying, you know what, I should put my money where my mouth is. And I think this is this is the first example I've seen of this is this is not the biggest donation we've ever received received in one shot shot. And he wants to stay anonymous, which means he doesn't want to get his head blown off for doing it. So this is good.

32:08 Would assume by his wife personally, but I didn't ask Does it matter we get more guys are writing you know don't say anything my wife will kill me Yeah, that's that's not understandable to me because I think women Gross number of women than we actually would like to think we have yeah because it's you know it's most of these shows you most of this stuff because just I I know a lot of women just don't get in the podcast generally, but some do. Anyway, onward, Alan Thompson from New Carrollton, Maryland came in with 3333 looking for some karma for his new project, just finished a new award year release, Hard and Difficult, new release, and he never says quite what it is.

32:55 But anyway, he wants some karma to ensure a smoother release. And since there's so many donations for his show 333, he thought there was a... He wasn't properly de-douche during that show where we had all those donors. And so he needs a de-douching karma combo. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. There you go. A proper de-douching. In the chatroom, you can congratulate him. He's East Coast boner. Justin, it was nice to meet you. We apparently ran into you in the Hot Pockets kickoff event. By the way, how's it coming for the Hot Pockets 2008-2 tour? Yeah, I'll get back to you on that. Ryan Showalter in Fresno, California, 32567. No agenda karma works, he says.

33:46 My girlfriend put on a donation and put a donation on my name for last Sunday's show on behalf of our anniversary and two days later I received a surprise $500 bonus on my paycheck. I was absolutely floored. Isn't it lovely when it works? To keep the karma flowing, it's pretty weird if you ask me, but it seems to have, we got all these stories, we should accumulate them into one giant website. Here's a sizable chunk of my bonus, which is a good chunk I might add. Thank you for all the extremely hard work you guys put into every show. Look forward to every episode and he needs a Hot Pockets Karma if you can give him one. Yeah, of course I can.

34:27 You've got karma. That's very kind and that is sharing love and Boomeranging the karma back. I love it Philip flick in Albuquerque, New Mexico, which you drove right past $300 Brewer Phil here want to let you know the last dozen shows or so have been great I want to update you that the karma worked Karma worked week Public television, you get a freaking tote bag, okay? Here, you get bonus checks, you get laid. Here's what he got, he now got engaged to his lovely fiancée, Brittany. Is that karma? That's good. I'd like to ask for two things. We hear a lot about John's wine and whiskey picks, but he never talks about beer. Lagunitas IPA.

35:16 I would want to know what Beer John enjoys. Lagunitas IPA. Also, could I get a Huntsman de-douching karma so I can find a new job that pays the bills I'm looking forward to beer and wenches at the Night Hood finish line. Beer and wenches okay, if you don't mind I'll do a so he wants a what he wants a huntsman de-douching I'll do de-douching huntsman karma because that kind of will kind of sound better. I think all right here we go You've been de-douche You've got karma a new combo and we'll talk about the the Huntsman thing in a minute Nick Kosterman's in Oakville Ontario Canada

35:57 $200. He's our associate executive producer. Hey John and Adam, second donations toward my knighthood be... I can't imagine how I never thought to look beyond all the bogative messages in the media. I found that the critical analysis of pipelines and political motivation is invaluable to me. I'm almost done university. What are you laughing for? I'm almost done university. Only a Canadian would do that. Must be a state college. I'm almost done university and currently I'm talking a globalization and technology, taking a globalization and technology course where I use info from the show to blow the minds of all the mindless media consumers in the course. I bet you do. Can you imagine?

36:45 I'd like a Huntsman Karma combo for my ITM 800 group to get our project done on time so we can graduate. I'd like to call out the Canadian Conservative Party as a bunch of douchebags. Douchebags! For their wasteful new legislation for the war on drugs. Eat a dick, Stephen Harper. You're a shill. That's a t-shirt. That's a t-shirt right there. He doesn't understand this situation. You've got karma. I would say, for some reason I wind up saying that a lot during the day. Well, so we got a note from someone. Uh-huh.

37:22 Did you get the note, didn't you? I don't... what the... oh, the Hapu Tari Ching Ching note? Yes, I did. Yeah. Says you can't even come close to it and the thing is bogus and he's been in China for a long time and I don't know, this is a kind... I told him that we got notes from people in China. He's in China too. Yeah. They say it's fine. Yeah. So now I don't know, I'm completely befuddled. I don't know either. Maybe I have to ask the economic hitman and he can give me the link. I'm not trusting your economic hitman that much. I'm not loving him that much. I'm looking at these things as messaging. I think the whole thing was about getting the note out about Malawi. I'm down with that. I'm down with that. So it was an encoded message. Encapsulated. You've seen those. Oh yeah, we've discussed them off air. Indeed we have.

38:09 You know it says one thing but the real message is something else. And usually we don't act on them. We just sit at home. It's where it's safe. Whatever. So we of course highly appreciate the support from our executive producers Anonymous, Alan Thompson, He doesn't understand the situation. You can also go to channeldvorak.com slash NA noagenda show.com and noagendanation.com where also we should mention Eric's put up a... He has a new project, Mayancoin.com Mayancoin.com which I have to say I hope he advertises it to send it out to the general public because the whole thing's in Mayan but on the back side unbeknownst to

39:24 normal public it's actually says crackpot and buzzkill in some sort of in Mayan in Mayan with two jerks on there it's actually quite funny it's a beautiful coin I've not I do not have one in my possession so I can only go by what I'm seeing I think it's been manufacturing right now but it's the best design he's done I would say yeah and if you use the code Mayan coin that shipping is free and Really, it's like $44 and 44 cents and I got a note from a military guy He said you know all our wives here at the base. They're always whipping out their coins I need a challenge coin for no agenda I guess he's a newer listener so you can go to my in coin calm It's a people will be well. They will be floored when they see this thing like holy crap What theater did you get that from what battleground?

40:15 Can you imagine I got my challenge to what yeah, it was and by the way it expires at the end of this year along with you It's our last chance to dance challenge coin. We also got a couple of cool domain name forwards which I Always appreciate you can find those in the show notes at three nine or zero dot na show notes calm Kony 2012 bullshit calm Which might be a good one to tweet out to your friends. That's a good one, we should use it. Yeah. Well also one of our producers, and I tweeted this link, he did like a 14 minute video, a YouTube video, and this guy, Arsonomics is his YouTube name,

40:57 I like what he does. He takes the audio from the show and then while we're talking he actually surfs through the web and all the stuff we're talking about and he gets in the show notes and he clicks on the links and so you can it's kind of like a multimedia presentation. It's so hip that way. And so maybe we can point Kony2012bullshit.com towards that. We have another forward to noagendershow.com. Thisisyourgovernment.com. I'm like, wow, I didn't know that. I hadn't, wouldn't expect that to be available actually. Was actually surprised by actually I was surprised by Mayan coin being a bit another good point how did that work and then probably the best Or the funniest one although completely useless in practice Forwarding to our no agenda show calm website due process is not judicial process calm. Yeah, it's funny. Oh

41:51 But of course completely useless because people can't remember it. Yeah, it's a little long, but it's funny. It's humorous It's good for a one quick gag it is so we appreciate all of that We appreciate all of the work and of course you can always do something very important Just go out bring more people in and propagate the formula our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Shut up slave and change your clock

42:29 So did you note that Lois sent you a note about the alien probes of women who are pregnant or whatever it is? But this was news two weeks ago. I don't understand why, and it's not really a Noah-Jenda topic. Yeah, to me it was like, really? Yeah, okay. Do you feel it's an original topic? Well, it is kind of old because it came up... Well, explain to people what it is then. Well, this wasn't the guy in Virginia, the governor there, that's when it became news. It was already done in Texas. I don't know when, maybe a year ago for all I know. They're just to dissuade people from getting abortions. This is the Christian right.

43:10 they've instituted well if you're gonna get an abortion you have to first get tested with this you know they probe you do an ultrasound shove a probe up your vagina. And, uh, let me just, okay, you're doing a horrible job. In fact, the Texans, the Texans buy into a lot of this stuff. You're doing a horrible job. So what it is, is a law that exists in Texas. And if you want to get an abortion, then by law, you first have to go to the doctor. They probe you with an ultrasound device. which I guess I mean when Christina when Patricia was pregnant with Christina it was never a vaginal probe but okay so it is apparently and they make you watch the ultrasound and listen to the heartbeat then go home and think about it for 24 hours. So neither of us are qualified to speak about this because A we don't have a vagina you know it's like

44:02 Like and I think the whole thing is abhorrent because the government, no government has any business in meddling with you whatsoever in this regard. So I, but there's nothing else I can say about it. Republicans are into meddling with the public. It seems to me. By the way, thank you, a citizen Robert. Hey, citizen. Hey, citizen. From San Antone, 129 years dot com now forwarding to no agenda show dot com. That's beautiful. That's just now. 129 years calm. Yeah, I'm telling you this is a good one. We should we should do a special donation amount one two-niner It's a good deal. So but you know, I mean, I'd like Lois a lot I know she tries to help us out but like who cares and this is it's idiotic The people running our country are completely insane. What do you expect? But it's not just Texas and Austin is not Texas

44:57 And this is true, this is like Paris is in France. Well, and I think more typical of a story about Texans would be that Apple is opening up an office here. An office or a store? No, no, no. They're gonna hire people. Austin is the high tech nexus of Texas. I was reading the release and it was like, you know, they're talking about $350 million they're gonna pump into this facility here. It sounds like a call center, quite honestly. I'm not quite sure what they're doing, but it was like for support and stuff. I'm like, oh, okay, call center. But it's cool, you know.

45:34 Is your machine plugged in? Is your machine... make sure the cord is plugged in. Hold on a second. We have to do an assembly of the geniuses. Hold on. I'm sure you've seen the South Park episode. The human centipede? No, I didn't see the news. They did an Apple... they've done Apple a couple of times. You must look at... after the show with Buzzkill Jr. because he's seen it, I'm sure. You will poop yourself, literally, watching the human centipede South Park episode it is the best so I'm watching the show preppers Oh No, so this is this is my favorite one so thus Becky this dingbat Who's living in the middle of nowhere anyway by herself? She's not a bad-looking woman I don't imagine anyone wants to date her that ends answers my first question because she's so nutty But just play Becky becomes a sniper fine

46:35 But in a government takeover, Becky believes she will need offensive as well as defensive weapons. So if necessary, she can preemptively eliminate a threat without being detected. Today, with Bob's expertise, she is training with a bolt-action sniper rifle outfitted with a telescopic lens that guarantees optimal precision from up to 1,000 yards away. I'm taking sniper training because then I could keep people as far away from me as I needed to. This hand goes underneath. You support it. Make a fist. Pull it tight into your shoulder. You want me to have it dead center vertically, right? Today, Becky's bullseye is 200 yards, the equivalent of two football fields.

47:22 You hit it. Did I? Yes. Sweet! Alright, I have a take on this if you want it or do you have something to say? Yeah, I want to hear your take but let me just say this. If the government, the government, what do you mean if the government takes over? They've taken over. Yeah, really. Well, they take over what? They've taken over. The government has, they took over like in the 1800s. I mean, give me a break. So here's my take on this. This is an elaborate setup. Because on CNN, and I have multiple screens running during the day, what caught my eye is they rolled out a report from 2009 about patriot groups. And patriot, of course, in the chyron on the screen is in quotes, patriots, you know, patriot.

48:10 and they have this woman on from the SPLC. Are you familiar with this outfit, John? The SPLC? The Southern Poverty... The Symbionese Liberation Army. No, the Southern Poverty Law Center. Oh yeah, the Southern Poverty Law Center. They're the ones who set the precedent for busting up these operations by by suing the leaders under some circumstance when anything bad that happens could be traced to a newsletter or writing or even a speech that they made. It's very interesting legal situation. This is a non-profit civil rights organization. Yeah, they're very famous. Yeah, they seem like a bunch of douchebags. Yeah, there's a lot of doucheery there, that's for sure. Yeah. So I have two clips.

48:54 And they have this woman on from the SPLC. And the premise here is that the patriot groups, the membership and the creation of groups has risen dramatically. And they have from 400 in 2008 to over 1,200 now. 1,200 patriot groups. And then they show this package, no new video, it's from 2009. And of course some of these groups that aren't patriot groups like the old ones they used to have problems with which are generally Christian white supremacist groups. Some of these guys are just members of a shooting club. This is a... Thank you. This is exactly what I'm... This is my point exactly.

49:36 So you got these guys, and they're like middle-aged guys, they dress up in fatigues, and they're out there shooting around in the woods and stuff. You know, it's like, okay, whatever. And let me play these two clips. So what, if anything, is being done to... I'm sorry, let me play them in reverse order. So they, you know, they're very worried about the Constitution, which is basically the premise. In fact, that's how it starts off. But then listen how this woman twists reality and lies, lies to benefit this campaign 2012. How many of you are worried about the Constitution right now? Worried as in the sense that it's not being followed.

50:21 So they say, yeah, worried. We're worried about it's going away. No one's following the Constitution. Well, I could easily see myself in one of these groups and, by the way, we could have fun shooting some guns and drinking some beer. Now let's go over to the woman from the Southern Poverty Law Center and get her view on this. So the why. Why the explosive growth, Heidi? Well, there's basically two factors that have driven the anti-government groups up. One is the bad economy. That always adds to any kind of extremism that you have. How so? Extremism, by the way. It's extremism now. Are there the election of a Democratic? So guys who go out in the woods and shoot paintball or go squirrel hunting? No, they were shooting real guns. They were shooting, yeah, extremism. But it gets worse. How so? Just be more specific. I was going to say the bad economy.

51:08 The bad economy tends to drive people into extreme... By the way, you hear how professional she is? She knows how to play into a crosstalk on the satellite. So she knows to shut up and then start again without saying, well, it's very professional woman. This the bad economy tends to drive people into extremist groups. They're unemployed. They're frustrated. They're angry. And so they start joining them up. But more importantly, what could it be, John? More importantly, what could it be? Come on. What could it be? What would have to be hate? It would have to have something to do with Ron Paul. No, no. No, no, no, it's my it's more important than that listen to this listen to this woman It's really the election of Barack Obama and the swing to the left in the presidency we had the same thing Listen be quiet and listen happened in the 1990s with Clinton when the first militia movement occurred But this time it's a little different because Obama is an african-american

51:58 Oh, he's black. Is that what you're saying? Now, can we give up on this idea of calling everyone racist? No, no, no, no. Listen to what she says. It really made me angry how she and the CNN. Just be quiet and listen. Because Obama is an African American. So there are all these crazy racial theories that you hear about Obama, that he's not really a citizen. That's racial? He's not a citizen? That's a racial thing? Really? Oh, maybe she has more. That he's maybe a secret Muslim. Oh, that's racial? He's Muslim? Is that racial, John? Is that racial?

52:36 This woman is... By today's standards, apparently. All of this has created an incredible amount of paranoia on the far, far right, which is expressed in this kind of anti-government activism. Unbelievable! Anti-government activism. He's black and there's all this crazy racism because he's not a citizen. And what should we do about it, Emily? So, what, if anything, is being done to combat some of this paranoia? Well, probably the most important thing that needs to be done is that law enforcement has to watch out for them. I mean, the fact of the matter is that anti-government groups have been known to be involved in a lot of domestic terrorism. We've had militia arrests.

53:18 Michigan this year, Alaska, most recently in Georgia where a group of militiamen were going to spread ricin in big cities like Atlanta and Baltimore. So it's a major law enforcement problem and luckily for us the FBI has been on top of this and so has the Department of Homeland Security and that's what needs to happen. Now you're just a bunch of belligerents and they're all terrorists and we're Al-Qaeda And it was very disturbing to me because this was predicted that the race card would be played big time. Well, it's been played over and over. Yeah, but this is really outrageous. And I think Preppers does play into this by a lot of degrees. Yes, of course it does. Of course it does. But it makes it kind of funny because we get ridiculed. Oh yeah, I mean that's good. But this totally bogative what she said that the militia movement began with during the Clinton administration. In fact, even if you just look at militia movement in the book of knowledge,

54:14 It began, like the Fosse Comitatus, which was part of this, was during the Reagan administration. How do you explain that? And then the Clinton, and then there were some examples of militias in the 70s. I remember the Minutemen when I was, you know, at Berkeley there used to be a group called the Minutemen, which were militiamen. And they were sending out these, actually a professor that I had got one of these, I saw it at his house. And he was like spooked by it. But this was a huge scandal. And this is way, this is like 50 years ago or 40, way before she talks about this, where they sent out these little nasty notes to people with a target that showed a target, like a gun sight thing that you would look through. And it said, instead of mentioning that you were, you know, seen talking to a black man or something. And they said, we got our eye on you. So I can't remember the exact wording, but this has been going on forever. This is nothing new.

55:12 So this is all bull crap. She's, her premise is bad and she brings up that it gets cranked up a little bit. Yeah, during Waco because everyone got a little paranoid, wouldn't you think? So I don't know, this, this whole thing is that I'm really bothered by the, the real, there's like no factual information and nobody challenges any of this stuff. You're watching this on CNN. She can say whatever she wants and then these idiots. No challenge. Oh, well, yeah. What should we do about it then? These racists. They don't say anything and call these people out for being full of crap. And so you can go on these shows and say whatever you want. Believe me, I've gone on a lot of these shows myself and I'm always right. No one ever questions what I have to say. You're always talking crap. But the mouse won't work. I've not got the right money on all my stuff. No one cares about a mouse. Besides that point, I could be challenged. Let's go over to FBI headquarters, John, and find out, see if we can find any belligerents.

56:10 We've been seeing the number three all over the ship. I actually have a belligerent clip somewhere too. You see three all over the ship. I'm seeing number three all over the ship. But it's disturbing, you know? It's just really disturbing. You're right, no one challenges anything. Nothing. Nothing. Oh, here it is. Here it is, here it is. Non-belligerency confirmed, Captain! Non-belligerency. So, uh, talking about ships... Yeah?

56:54 Uh, there's a, um, what the heck's it? There's a show on the Travel Channel. I was gonna do another one of those questions, guess what show this, what channel this is on? The Travel Channel. You're just gonna give it away. It's called Ghost Adventures. Ugh, really? And yeah. And these guys go on a ship, they go on the USS Hornet which is over here in Alameda so I could go over there and check this out. You could be a ghost hunter. I got a couple of clips, you gotta play this one. Ghosts on the USS Hornet. This is the kind of reporting that you get from ghost hunters nowadays. You know what's really weird? I feel like I keep getting poked in the arm with needles. You know, like shots. You serious? Yeah. And then my arms start twitching. Zach, come here! What's wrong? You have to experience this right now, man. It just got really cold. I can see my breath.

57:45 Something's in here with me. Well just make just stay because I don't want to move I don't want to interrupt this Is there somebody here with me? Can you talk to me? Wait a minute wait a minute John we can do this hold on a second hold on a second first We got sound like two surfers. Yeah, hey John dude. You got to come over here, man I got really cold my penis just shrunk come on man feel it feel it's an innie. It's an innie man I don't think I want to do that. It completely went away. Is someone in here with me? Oh man, I'm gonna stay over here. In fact, I'm gonna leave. I'm outta here. So in another episode, this is the work by the way, this is the worst show in the history of no no no swamp people has got to be worse I only have one more clip from this show. Yes. Thank you. I got apparently I didn't realize this but if it wasn't for the the power grid that we have we probably wouldn't have ghosts because it's that's what they eat documentation of deaths and no tombstones and then let's grab another list that's not documented and

58:49 and see-through of possibly some murders or suicides. So with that, we have one, two, three, four, five. Five stacks of darkness, dread. death, wrongdoings, and that pretty much describes the roof that's over our heads. I think it's a hotbed of activity is what it is. We have a power grid across the street which I think feeds a lot of the activity. We're close to lane lines. You have all the dead bodies and the deaths that happened here. So you've got a power grid This right here could be harboring a station for these entities and spirits to be powering themselves. You know what I mean? Absolutely, and I really believe that that's like a food source almost, if you will. Right, right. Energy source.

59:38 I'm hungry. I think I need to eat me my- This is like- I gotta suck off my UPS for a moment here. Now you're supposed to say, why are you wasting time watching this crap? I know I've given up, but I'll- I'll indulge you. Why are you wasting our time watching this crap? It's a it's I couldn't help myself. Oh, I know why because there's something there was a windstorm or something I was having trouble getting C-SPAN. Oh, oh really? Yeah. Well, there was a couple of things that that were not on C-SPAN, which I had to find from other sources. And this is one thing that I there was an introduction of a new bill into Congress, House Resolution 107. Have you heard of this one? No, but I'm sure I will. Yes, you will.

1:00:22 Let me read this to you. This was entered by... I don't have it here... Jones, Congressman Jones. House Resolution 107 expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a president without prior and clear authorization of an act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under Article 2, Section 4 of the Constitution. That's good. They won't pass that. It's in committee. Well, yeah, that's a start. But Walter Jones, Republican in North Carolina. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's look at his bills. He gets a lot of co-sponsors on his bills. Well, let's see what he was. He's all about.

1:01:07 Well, I think he's probably a... Oh, he looks like one of those guys, yeah. Troublemaker. He got out of office in 1995. He's probably on one of those things that keep him from getting killed. I think you said it. Troublemaker. Troublemaker. Yeah, don't fly in any small aircraft. with your, uh, no, so really he wants to impeach the president should the president decide to go and kill Assad without congressional approval, which I think it is an impeachable offense and I agree. Now, interestingly enough, and this was not on C-SPAN, I had to pull this off of Shep Smith's show, of all things. This really, really, really bugged me. We have, um,

1:01:53 Let me just find the clip here. This was Mueller, Robert Mueller, who is the... Mueller? Yeah, Mueller. Mueller? Not Bueller, Mueller. Oh, Mueller. Who of course is the director of the FBI, who was reinstated after his 10 year tenure. Yeah, after he's not supposed to be. Well, let me just reiterate for people who have not listened to the show. He passed a law some years ago because they didn't want another J. Edgar Hoover situation where you can't get the damn guy out of office because he knows too much. So if you're an FBI head of the FBI, you can only stay in for I think two three-year terms or some six years are I don't know the exact ten years ten years ten years ago that's a long time it shouldn't even be that long but whatever and so he was in years past they say let's leave him in he was in come on he was installed as director of the FBI ten three months before 9-11 three months before 9-11 let me just repeat that again for you

1:02:47 And then his 10 years were up and I was like, I mean, you know, publicly they say he's doing such a great job. You never change a winning team. Screw the law. Privately, of course, like, dude, he knows where all the bodies are, man. No, we can't have this. By the way, to change the law and short it even more. Mickey got J. Edgar the movie and I watched it with her. Yeah. That guy was an a-hole. Hoover. He's the one- And you know that movie got zero play, it barely made it into the theaters, and it was done by, you know- Did you see it?

1:03:23 No, I haven't seen it yet because I haven't gotten a chance. Let me give you a synopsis. They buried that movie. Oh yeah, you better believe they did. And first of all, it was a very complicated movie because you have to know a little bit about history. And it was directed by Clint Eastwood. Right, and that's an automatic winner. No, it was completely... Well no, I realize now. And Leonardo DiCaprio, he played J. Edgar, which I think he did very well. But here's the main highlights from the movie. So what is insinuated is that the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, that he actually was responsible for the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby in order to get the FBI law passed, which made them into an official agency and allowed them to carry guns.

1:04:15 And there was all this lying that he did and they had these complete times. Sounds like a fractal of what's going on with the TSA and Homeland Security. Totally. In fact, this is what you got to look out for. They had the G-Men. Do you remember the G-Men? like radio plays and they had like, oh yeah, they had a lot of TV shows. G-men badges and cereal boxes. Right, G-men, yeah, there's a bunch of radio shows. And how Hoover came to power is he had all these files on everybody. Yeah, Touchables, I believe, began as a radio show. Also, yeah. And he had, you know, he had like the tape recordings of Eleanor Roosevelt, you know, having a lesbian affair with someone. Trist. Trist, there you go. It's always a lesbian Trist.

1:04:59 And, you know, he had tapes of Kennedy screwing the East German spy, who, by the way, was really hot. And I can't blame the guy. And that's how he came to power. But what they have, the back story is that he was always gay. And he had huge mommy issues, because his mom is in there throughout the whole movie until she passes away. And the second in command, forget the guy's name in real life, but he was Edgar Hoover's lover. And so they have this kind of, this weird story like the reason why he was such an insane maniac was because he was sexually repressed. It was like a very confusing story.

1:05:46 But I fascinating and now I've got now I want to go read some books about this guy because he really started the whole idea of Tracking everybody he built the first fingerprint database. He had all the files on everybody And created, you know events in order to get a secret police. Yeah, I Just outrageous. I'm like wow I had no idea what an a-hole this guy was Anyway, so the modern-day version stand on a box too. Yeah, it was quite short the modern day Do you have a book that you can recommend about J. Hoover nothing again nothing we got to find something So fascinating movie I recommend you watch it as a no agenda listener you will appreciate it because you know most people like ah so slow Get to some action. Where's the lesbian stuff?

1:06:36 But if you're a no agenda listener, that's true. So here is the modern day J. Edgar Hoover, Robert Mueller, who was asked if it is legal to drone an American citizen in America. It's a very short clip because I have a good one you got that good for you not on C-SPAN this entire It's been C-SPAN washed. It's not on C-SPAN and somehow Shep Smith had a copy of it So it's only 10 seconds, but listen carefully. Does that only apply to US citizen? That's overseas or does that apply to US citizen? That's here's I'd have to go back. I I'm not certain whether that was addressed or not. I got to go check on that. Can you believe this? Oh

1:07:18 I, I, you know, I got to get you. You wouldn't know off the top of your head? No, well he doesn't want to. Well he does know off the top of his head. The answer is yes, we can drone an American citizen, but let me go check on it. Yeah, I'll get back to you. Because I don't want to say that because it's going to get all over the place if I do. Yeah, I don't want to look like a douchebag. Because if it wasn't the case, he'd say no. Yeah, of course he would say no. He'd say no, we can't do that. Can't do that. I didn't pull the whole clip, but Shep Smith goes crazy on this. Have to give him that and then he brings in the judge and everything um, but I was just like wow Poisoning him or something or something. Yeah, it's not good with so what I did find on C-SPAN was something You know the Syria thing is driving me crazy. Yeah, I just keep looking at it from all angles like what is happening What is going on? And I don't know if you've put any thought to it in between watching preppers and ghost hunters

1:08:14 I don't know if you've had any time in your busy schedule to think about. It's Ghost Adventures. Yeah. Ghost Hunters is a show on the sci-fi network. I know, I know. I don't watch any of that crap because I don't want to be programmed by the frequencies they're putting in there. I am not programmed. Kill all humans. I don't think you're programmable anymore. At a certain age it doesn't work. Yeah, it scraps out at 40-something. That's why they just give you the vaccine. Don't worry. So the Syria thing is driving me nuts. I'm trying to figure out because you know, Bibi Netanyahu was visited with the president and the Jewish contingent, the Jewish groups, AIPAC, etc. are outraged because apparently in that meeting, apparently President Obama said to Netanyahu, you cannot attack Iran until after I'm elected.

1:09:12 Or, maybe not that specific, but you have to delay, you cannot attack now, which kind of plays into the theory of an October surprise. And of course, Israel is pretty... It also plays into my theory of no October surprise. Possibly. But he's been asked to delay and this has outraged the Jewish community. And there's, have you seen that? There's like a 17 minute video. It's just as professionally produced as Kony 2012. It'll be in the show notes at three, three, nine or zero dot N a show notes.com. And this whole video, which is paid for by, I believe APAC is basically saying Obama's a Muslim and that Obama wants to expand the Saudi Arabian power.

1:09:57 So I'm taking that as well. Caliphate. Yeah, so maybe it's okay. So maybe maybe that's an angle with Syria and I'm looking at Syria and You know Israel is very quiet. They're not really saying anything. You don't hear them in this debate at all Do you about Syria nothing? So if you look at the location of Syria, which is inland from Lebanon and You know, and of course they have some claim to Leviathan, so maybe that has something to do with it. I'm not sure. There's a, of course we have the Golan Heights, which is disputed territory between Syria and Israel. But very important, you know, the Israelis have promised never to attack that region because they have, you know, that's where their main pipeline for their oil comes in.

1:10:51 I'm just trying to figure all this out and I just I can't see who stands where except you know looking at oil companies but then we have the State Department and The State Department does a daily briefing, press briefing, and I like these because A, the international press is there and they have funny accents, which is always cool, and they ask crazy questions that you don't expect, but even better, the woman who is the spokeshole, her name is Newland, Victoria Newland I think her name is.

1:11:30 She is not very good and when she's tired she starts to slip up and she says the stupidest things and people latch on to it and they just don't let her go. This one though, when you look at the video, she's reading off of her paper as she explains exactly what Asad is now all the descriptions and this is a new meme so it's being launched because I can see her Glancing down reading it word for word off of her Flintstone teleprompter What do you think we could describe Assad as of all the things that would that would just the crazy things?

1:12:10 Well, why don't you instead of grilling me since I obviously don't know the answer to that or I jump right in, tell me. Oh no, I'll be happy to tell you. It'll just be fun to see if you can... No, I can't come up with anything. This guy with a stick up his ass. Let's think movie plot. Mr. Tight. Let's think movie plot. The funniest man in Syria. You know, laugh a minute, Assad. I have no idea. But I think you know where we have been on this subject. Under Assad political power in Syria is exercised by a mafia like crime family. Oh This is a new one a Mafia like crime family, it's funny because that's actually not a new one It is something we've discussed on the show over two years ago when I tell my anecdote about the Saudi guy that

1:13:03 mentioned some years back on a flight I was sitting next to him at that the traditionally the Syrians have always operated as a mafia to extort money from the other Arab countries because the Syrians had no resources. So this is that doesn't really shock me I think what they're trying to do is introduce that I think to the general public that concept. Well let's have a listen to her explanation and some follow-up questions. Not by a parliament, not by parties, not by a cabinet. And so the only meaningful reform, the only meaningful dialogue is one that transfers power ultimately from this family to the people. That there needs to be a structure in place so that those folks who are currently governing Syria but don't have blood on their hands can get into a real conversation.

1:13:57 So then we got a follow-up from one of the funnier guys in the in the press corps there No, Sam. That's just for saying a couple couple brief very brief things one Mafia like crime family is you so who's the godfather here? Do you really think that Assad is smart enough Ruth? Maybe ruthless enough is he smart enough? to actually be the head of this family or do you think that it's his father's cronies who are still hanging around. I love this. Is he the godfather? If she's gonna bring it up as a model, as an analog, she's gonna have to deal with questions like this. I personally would have said, is this anything like the monarchy in Britain? Exactly. No, those are royals. You see, there's a difference. If you

1:14:38 If you are running a crime family in the Middle East, you're a dictator, you're a mob boss. But if you're in the West, like the Netherlands or the United Kingdom, you're a royal. And so it continues with another funny follow up. Well, I'm not going to dissect the insides of this family, except that he is the president of the country. He bears full responsibility. Do you believe, just to follow on that one point Matt, do you really believe that if he were to step down or be taken out of power that the violence in Syria is going to stop? You really think he's the sole person that's calling the shots here?

1:15:17 He is the symbol, the president of this regime that is leading this violence. We saw this interview with him some months ago where he claimed that he wasn't issuing the orders, etc. From our perspective, it is... So, she's saying something very interesting here. By the way that questions a great question. Oh, and then she cut it is cut some off and she cuts her off She comes, but she brought asked the good you she said she brought the symbol thing as a symbol Yeah, then what there is is it make is a symbol is a symbol yeah? And the other one is where you think the violence will stop now This is the kind of person whoever that woman was if she's good on CNN instead of these dingbats, okay? Well, well you know pretty house my eye makeup. Yeah, that's the problem. Oh

1:16:04 She's totally the problem. She's not working real media. Yeah, she's not really camera friendly. Oh, well, I mean they've got no I mean for me to be fine I'm just Some of the people they have at CNN a lot of more camera for that they got that pasty look So I thought that was fascinating. Well third third thing here Oh If the top of the Syrian regime is a crime family, what's the administration's view of the other institutions of government there? My impression has been that the administration wants to keep what it can going forward.

1:16:43 Well Paul, this is going to be a decision for the Syrian people to make. We're not going to dictate the future structure or the personnel in a Syrian system that's becoming increasingly democratic. What we want to see is a more democratic system. No, we wouldn't do that. The briefing after this meeting is, hey, the crime family analogy. Done yeah over with that No, I think she knew she sucked I know because everyone kept bringing it back. Yeah, oh crap So let me tell you what is happening, which is very interesting the the French are preparing, and let me read from the press release. The French Air Force has organized a large-scale week-long exercise with the British Royal Air Force, which is expected to send over tornado fighters, aerial tankers, and AWACS aircraft as part of the enhanced cooperation agreed between the two countries. That would be Turkey. The exercise, dubbed Southern Mistral, will be held March 21st to 25th

1:17:46 And you can bet that this is a setup because this is exactly... I'm sorry, is that the right one? No, that was the wrong one. Crap, I'm sorry. That was the Libyan one. That was 2010. That was the... Yeah, that was in November 2010. Southern Mistral. Mistral. Mistral. Here's the one for 2011. The Turkish and... It's also called Southern Mistral. Or Mistrial. The Turkish and US Air Forces continued to combine their assets and share tactics in large force employments during Exercise Antolian Falcon, March 5-16. Their specialty SEAD, which stands for Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses.

1:18:38 So, I think having, which I, it's so much the same script that I misread it. So we had Southern Mistral just before we went in and created the no-fly zone over Libya. Now we have US forces and Turkey getting ready with, just happened to be practicing for this suppression of enemy air defenses, which is indeed the problem with a no-fly zone over Syria. It's crazy. So they are most definitely... You mean British and French with Turkey, you said US? No, it's US. I thought on this occasion the French and British forces will perform composite air operations specific air raid. That was Libya.

1:19:17 Notice I'm reading from the toot from the I'm reading 21st to 25th March 2011. Um, no, this is 2012 John. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. I'm really was a 2010 one, too Yeah, I'm reading this every year. What was in 2010? I didn't know something else. We that was a real practice Now we're going for the no, this is from the Air Force news service. Okay. Sorry So it's very confusing if they don't change the code names Yeah, well, you're right. It is Antolian Falcon 2 to 2012 so it's the same mission only as the 2012 version so I think I think the suppression of air defenses means blowing up and sending out those those those attack electronic attacks oh right

1:20:06 And that's what we did when we before we took Iraq we blew up all their their infrastructure of communication communications infrastructure with electronic warfare But I think that still well anyway So I then I looked at the Syrian National Council just to give some data points because there's really not much more I can do the the chairman of of the Syrian National Council, which is recognized as the government, so they don't even recognize Assad anymore because he's a mafia crime family leader. This guy is Dr. Burhan Ghalyoun, and he apparently doesn't even live in Syria. He lives in Paris.

1:20:49 And he was educated in Paris. I had a little Wikipedia page on him. In the 70s, he published a manifesto for democracy. And he... Oh, this is how I got to the Golan Heights. He's the guy that got in cahoots with the Israelis and resolved the Golan Heights dispute. And the Golan Heights, as I said, is about the Trans-Arabian Pipeline, TAP line they call it. which goes from the Gulf there from Saudi Arabia, this is why that's interesting, all the way through the Golan Heights to Lebanon. And its heyday was an important factor in the global trade of petroleum, helping with the economic development of Lebanon as well as American and Middle Eastern political relations. So I just don't understand the actors and I don't think you have an idea either.

1:21:48 Now I know the Russians have got a lot of action going, they're having talks all over the place and it's not being reported on at all. And I think the model, because these things seem to me to be set in stone once they are underway, which means that Assad will be killed in a bunker or a spider hole or something at some point. Wait a minute, we've already... He'd be in a wine cellar and they'll gun him down. We've already had, let's think about this, we've already had the spider hole, we had the sewer pipe. The sewer pipe. The sewer pipe. We kept Colonel Mustard in the library with the lead pipe

1:22:25 I think Assad being a mafia crime family. He has to go out in a blaze of glory He's got to go out and like it's got to be a hand-gunning fight. Yeah, hand-gun pistol Yeah, or one of those big guns like like in Scarface. Yeah Yeah, that would work. Oh, yeah blows out the door and then he gets shot down Meanwhile, he was a belligerent. If I don't know why these guys can't figure this out early in this game because it's happened over and over again and just say, look, I'm screwed. They've they've but I think they're surrounded by too many yes men. You know, he doesn't have good advisors. He should just bail, take as much money as he can and move to Switzerland. Yeah, well, he got that offer. The Russians actually offered him the minister, the foreign minister from Russia went there to give it up.

1:23:18 Come on, you can snack on all the electricity you want over here. You ghost. Meanwhile, Israel remains under attack. They keep getting bombs lobbed into their territory and they're fighting back. They say they killed a top terrorist in the Kaisei organization. No, the guy's name is Kaisei. Who knows but this is along the Egyptian border and there were two words that popped up that Ehud Barak I guess he is he the the war minister now in Israel? I can't keep track of him. I can't keep track of either. He said you know well luckily our iron dome is working. They have something called the iron dome. What's the iron dome? Apparently it's a rocket shield.

1:24:13 And he goes on to say, wait until we pull out our magic wand. Who said this? Ehud Barak. From Egypt? Or from Israel? Yeah. So he says the iron dome worked and so none of the projectiles landed. They got blown up. He says, but wait until... Ehud Barak. Barak said the classified... Oh, the iron dome. I see what it is. It's a rocket launcher. It sends a bunch of crap into the air and whatever comes over gets blown up to smithereens. It's like the Patriot. It's like the Patriot shooting down the Scuds. No, it's more... no, it's Patriots are single missiles. This is like an array. I'm looking at the Iron Dome now. Cool. Cool. It's a big array. What's the magic wand then? I have probably... I have no idea. I like it. This costs $40,000 a missile. The system costs $50 million. Its designer is the Rafael Advanced Defense Systems. It's... what?

1:25:11 It's Israeli? Who makes it? Well, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems probably is Israeli. Yep. It's government owned. Yeah. From Haifa. It's military. It looks like a big box of tubes. Yeah, big box of tubes. But what is the magic wand? Because he says here, I bet you they do the same thing. Request the acceleration of plans to operate and deploy additional iron dome batteries and complete the development deployment of the magic wand. Sounds like a Harry Potter thing. We're rolling out Harry Potter. Let's find it. Let's see who can find it the first. Who can find it? Let me see. Chat room, can you find the magic wand? Yeah, that's a cheap way out. I don't know, man. I don't know. Because the magic wand is a hard Google.

1:26:04 Magic wand Israel, maybe that'll work. There it is. You got the magic wand? David's sling. It's also called David's sling. Cool. Oh, that's for David and Goliath? Wow! It's a little missile. It's an interceptor missile used by the David's sling system. I beat you, chat room. It's an Israeli Defense Forces military system being developed by Israeli defense contractor Raphael that was the key to the search. Oh yeah. And the American defense contractor Raytheon also known as the Patriot Missile System Company. You know what Raytheon does? They only get to make up the name. It's like, we'll build it. This will intercept medium to long range rockets and cruise missiles such as those possessed by Hezbollah.

1:26:52 A million a pop for each of these things it fires off. That's a lot more than Mickey's Sig Sauer, that's for sure. A million a pop. Cool! Cool! Fireworks. Anyway, so... The battle of the Scud missiles versus the Patriot missiles in Gulf War I. The Patriot, it was a well-known fact in Israel and then finally became a fact only years later in the United States that not one Patriot missile ever hit anything and all those Scuds that were blowing up were just breaking up on their own. Yeah. Because they were junk. Yeah. Anyway.

1:27:37 The end of our defense talk for the day. Yeah, I mean, I don't have much more to say about it. I mean, I wish I could, but it's just like, you know, I really just don't. I really just don't understand it. It's figured out. It's just a matter of time. Yeah, we will. So it'll be a special show. It'll be our magic wand show. I was very disappointed not to hear a Dvorak Horowitz unplugged show this week. It was a pretty slow week. We're scheduling problems. Yeah. Hello. Greece defaulted slow week. Yeah, but did they really? Well, Moody's. No, no. Yes. We'll do a show on Tuesday and we'll explain it all. Well, let me just say, because I did a little bit of research. Here's the actual text. March 9th. Moody's Investor Service says that it considers Greece to have defaulted as per Moody's default definitions. That's Moody's. Yeah. So they've defaulted.

1:28:37 By Moody's standards, but nobody else says so. Yeah, well Fitch said so and the I am by Moody's and Fitch's standard Nobody else said yes the ISDA the International Swaps and Derivatives Association said it's a default So this trigger that's Moody's and Fitch's in the ISDA, but nobody else said so I guess you're right. They didn't really default not because to Monday Monday there'll be another meeting somewhere in the EU and they're gonna decide what really happens but March 23rd still appears to be the date because they don't have all the all the payoff in this is just to you know this is just to tide him over like a bridge loan

1:29:18 So did you see that video about the EU did that crazy woman standing there and turning into some sort of Tarantino movie? Yeah, I had it in the show notes a week ago but you can't play it on the show because it doesn't make any sense if you can't see it. No, it's just music. That's exactly what they want. Euro land to be they want it to be keep a circle keep out all the foreigners the Chinas the Saudis keep them all out we're we're drawing the carts in a circle the wagons yeah it's pretty weird and the German people should it's on my blog to show no I didn't okay go check on this Jonas another thing that was kind of amusing to me CNN did you see these CNN reports from Fukushima yeah before you go there one second

1:30:07 Just finishing up Euroland, if I can? Yeah. The Germans have now once again opened up the conversation about creating an EU constitution. This is what led to the Lisbon Treaty in the first place. No one's going to approve this thing. Everyone will approve it. They'll approve it from the parliament. That's what they'll do. Yeah, of course, because they've already taken control. First they had to get the compact, right? So now all the control lies in Brussels. And if you don't adhere to the control, then they send in the troika and then they basically take away your money. This will be good for the show because this will be a great opportunity to read something. And it'll have a whole... because you know this Constitution is not going to be like the American Constitution, you know, a small 20-page document. It's going to be 5,000 pages.

1:31:01 Just a reminder a reminder for people that this show kind of started around the time of the Lisbon Treaty when I read the Lisbon Treaty and its protocols where it turns out You know if you're in Europe and you think the death penalty is is not an is is not in play you're wrong because why because if you run away from the police while you're being apprehended and they shoot and kill you it is a fair kill and You don't think you can be picked up? You can't. If you have a communicable disease, which can be AIDS, it could be the flu, you can be incarcerated. This is in your Lisbon Treaty, in the protocols. So now they're just going to put it into one document, make it easier for the PowerPoint. And well, that's it for me for Europe. Okay. Yes, I did. Screw him. Yeah. Actually, I like that stuff.

1:31:53 Well, we've discussed this ad nauseum. I know but I asked you I think you should go back to it. I asked a member of parliament in the Netherlands, Pechtold, I said this is when I still was on the radio show before they took... Oh, this is the radio show that they threw you off the show and then burned down the station because of some stuff you said about the government? That show? Yeah, not just that station, but it's sister station, the jazz station too. They're like, you know what? Screw that station too. We'll take them all down. Yeah, that show. In other words, the stations that because of you, you'll probably never work again in Holland on a radio station ever? Correct.

1:32:31 Okay, I just want to get that straight. So I asked him this exact question. I said, why is it that in the protocols it says that you can be killed fairly if you run away from the cops and if you have a communicable disease that you can be incarcerated? And he says, you know, I don't know. I will ask the parliament. And he asked the question in parliament. They have a session where you can ask questions and guess what? It never got answered. What? No. How come they couldn't answer it? No one had read no one is I have shut up and he actually said I was talking I was talking to Adam Curry this morning on the radio and he asked me how this can be possible and I'd like that question answered. They just don't answer it. They just don't answer it. I was on C-SPAN in Holland. They just don't answer it. They don't give a crap. So

1:33:26 This is not good. But this was 2008. This is how long and now now the ESM has been voted on, ratified. They signed it. Now they can. They can just do cash calls. Hey, we need money. And by the way, the Netherlands is now on the hit list. The Gitmo Nation lowlands because their economy is is tanking all of a sudden. Is it a complete stance? Still, everyone has all their mortgages are underwater and they've now been given warning shots like that. But when the troika says you need to give us 500 billion euros, you have to comply. Otherwise, like they come in and then they will take it from you and they will make sure all of the austerity is put into place properly. It's a complete outrage and some people see it, but you know, when we've got ghost hunters and preppers and all this stuff is on and swamp people,

1:34:26 All this stuff is on worldwide, you know. People just sitting there hypnotized. In fact, if you want to play at the end of the show, I do have a clip of Chris Dodd, the famous congressman who, Senator, became the head of the MPAA. There's a lot of clips about, I mean there's a whole bunch of hearings on C-SPAN about SOPA and PIPA and what are we going to do. And I think the most interesting one, I do have a couple clips about that, I'll skip the other thing for now, is that they had all, this was the big meeting of the Association of Attorney Generals, all the Attorney Generals of all the states. Yeah, I saw some of this, yeah.

1:35:10 All they were doing was moaning about software piracy. Oh, well this is because the cyber bill is about to be introduced. Well, no, that's a different series of... that was worse. I saw that too. Yeah, I have some good stuff from that. Actually, skipping even further ahead... The idiot congress people that were grilling people about the cyber security bill were just, it's just unbelievable. You know, when some old Chinese woman asking about rootkits, she doesn't know what she's talking about. So you realize that I already played a few clips from this on the last show, right? Yeah. But you don't have my idiot clips.

1:35:48 Which one do we roll out first, Johnny Boy? Well, let's see. Should we go with idiot congressman talking about the cyber bill? Well, let's play here. Try to tell me what this woman actually says with idiot congress... I have her name. I'll give it to you after the clip. Her name is idiot. Idiot congresswoman number one. The part that's really, to me, quite frightening is that nobody knows what they don't know. And we're looking at you and you're saying too that there's a lot of things you don't know too. and we look upon you as experts. And I'm hoping that we can build in some incentives here with a sort of a sharing of information that goes beyond some of your commercial type of concerns. Because I'm looking ahead to, this is even getting more and more complicated,

1:36:37 as we develop more tablets and smartphones and whatever, that we're losing control of the cyber security aspect of it. And the software aspect, I think you brought up Dr. Amoroso, is really very important, the education of that, and whether or not we're actually kind of building our own principles and standards into that too. So, that's just a comment and I really do appreciate your being here and I think I'm learning more and more every time. An entire minute of my life I will never have returned to me. Now I realize listening to these two women, this was a woman Doris Matsui out of Sacramento. California, representing California, thank you very much. Nickname idiot. I now realize why they limit the time on these people. Because they're idiots.

1:37:28 She says, you know, we know what we know and we don't know what we don't know. She said something very important John which I can tell you why she said that. Did you hear the word sharing in there? Yeah, maybe. We need to share information. This has been a theme of these hearings. I mean, you played it last Thursday, but I never saw the hearings until yesterday when they replayed the whole things and I got these idiots. Allow me to read to you a few paragraphs from House Resolution, another proposed bill, 3523. The title of this bill

1:38:06 to provide for the sharing of certain cyber threat intelligence and cyber threat information between the intelligence community and cyber security entities and for other purposes. And this literally Just a couple things. The Director of National Intelligence shall establish procedures to allow elements of the intelligence community to share cyber threat intelligence with private sector entities and to encourage the sharing of intelligence. This is where McAfee and your ISP start spying on you.

1:38:44 The Director of National Intelligence, DNI, shall issue guidelines providing that the head of an element of the intelligence community may, as the head of such element, consider it necessary to carry out this subsection. And what can they do? Grant a security clearance on a temporary or permanent basis to an employee or officer of a certified entity, which will be McAfee, AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner. Grant a security clearance on a temporary basis, uh, and approval to use appropriate facilities to expedite the security clearance for these persons. And here we go. Notwithstanding any other provision, blah blah blah. Use cyber security systems to identify and obtain cyber threat information to protect the rights and property of such protected entity.

1:39:26 So they can spy on you just to make sure that you're not doing anything bad. And they can share such cyber threat information with any other entity designated by such protected entity, including if specifically designated the federal government. So this is basically the brown shirts, the cyber brown shirts. If shared with the federal government, This information and the person providing the information shall be exempt from disclosure under section 552 title 5 United States Code so you're immune from prosecution and shall not be used by the federal government for regulatory purposes. Yeah, I'm sure. This is what this is about. Directly anyway. Yeah. This is as abhorrent as the NDAA. This is where your ISP is encouraged to spy on you to make sure you're not doing anything. You're not a cyber threat.

1:40:23 A cyber threat. And that's why... So this idiot congresswoman, who has no... All she's doing is following the script and it's her... She has to basically propagate the sharing meme. We have to be working together. And Dr. Amarehol, he's on the top of the list of spying. Yeah, he was, I didn't get any clips from him because he was a little much. I mean, most of these guys are just pretty much saying the same thing. But I do want to, before we actually, let's take a break after this, before I go to the SOPA PIPA guys. You don't want to play idiot congresswoman number two? Yeah, let's play idiot congresswoman number two. Now this one here, by the way, I want to mention before you moan about losing a minute of your life, this was actually almost five minutes long.

1:41:07 I cut it down to like a minute. Oh, by the way, I wasn't complaining about you and I enjoyed the clip. It's just the waste of space and human flesh. Well, this one here, which is Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee, a Republican, is worse. I think that one of the things that helps us as we work through the process is being certain that consumers are educated so I could get that bit of information and then when we look at the Hacker attacks that are out there, some of the anonymous attacks, some of those, there's one in the news today, I think there are five people that they have are bringing forward on charges. What kind of government imposed performance requirements

1:41:55 would help keep pace with some of the technological evolution that you're seeing in these cyber attacks. And if we were to do a government top-down sort of structure to try to deal with cyber enemies, would that be giving a signal? to that cyber enemies? Is that kind of too much information for them to be able to work around? So with that, those are the questions that I'd love to hear from you on the trends, the cost, what we are doing, what we're not doing, dealing with consumers, how you're educating them, and then looking at the attacks.

1:42:36 The caution she would give to us there and with that anyone that wants to respond. What's her name? I gotta make a list now. I'm gonna make my own Schindler's List except this is reverse Marsha Blackburn Marsha Blackburn get her out She is she this was only part of it and there was a third one which I didn't bother with because I was getting so well That was Susan Collins Oh no, no, I didn't hear it. You got the Susan Collins one already. Yeah. This other one, Donna Christensen, the Democrat from the Virgin Islands. She went on, she was reading stuff as, I mean I'm surprised she could even pronounce half of this stuff. Yeah, I saw her. About rootkits and all this other stuff. These women know none of this. Denial of service, I know, denial of service. They know nothing, they're complete idiots and they're just reading from a script that one of their staffers wrote and then if there's any, I would love to have seen one of these guys sit there and say,

1:43:31 Congresswoman, no offense, but I have the sense that you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, you're no, but instead, Dr. Amory Hole sits there and and belittles them and gives these memory was like, well, my mother has a computer and it's probably attacking China right now. Yeah, she needs to be in the cloud. She needs to be it's all she'd be in the cloud. Well, apparently, They simulated a cyber attack on New York City's power supply in a demonstration to the Senate to push through this cyber bill. There's a number of bills, but this 3523 whatever it is, which is in the show notes, you can get the marked up PDF, that's part of it. And here's what the Douchette Senator Susan Collins said.

1:44:21 The mock attack on the city during a summer heat wave was very compelling! So, you know, now it's just gotten to the point where it's like, you know, we'll just make it all up and we'll just, and you know, these people are gonna get so much power. I'm happy I'm on Linux Ubuntu now. I mean, I can't do much about my... You're really on Linux full-time? Full-time. Except in the studio. Except in the studio, yeah, full-time. Yeah. Full-time, baby. And I love it. And then, you know, and I have all my cookies turned off. I am, I'm a prepper. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. You heard it here first on No Agenda, Adam Curry is a preppy. Matt Hyde, Brighton, East Sussex, $123.12. We want to thank him for contributing to the show.

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1:49:36 No, this is pre-karma. Oh, pre-karma. Okay. Well, whatever. My key, Mike, Mike Peters, who would also be female. Mike Peters in V and then Vianen, Utrecht, Vianen, Utrecht, Vianen, Vianen, Vianen, Utrecht. Yeah. That's what I said. Micah. $64 please wish my husband Martin a very happy birthday. Martin. Martin. A very happy birthday. Martin. March 11th. Give him his gift. He's on the list. He's on the list. Martin. Marcia Straub. Or Straub to you. Cranberry. Cranberry. New Jersey. Cranberry. Cranberry.

1:50:22 Cranberry cranberry it's a donation for my husband Dylan's birthday so a birthday shout out we got that down some job Carmen also be appreciated has been submitted for a position that to be perfect for not to mention that the pay would be great and we really want this one to come through he loves your show and listens to every episode he brings up no agenda all constantly he's incredibly boring for doing no I didn't she didn't say that he's actually listening to the show right now ah that's love that's love he thinks you guys are all a bag of chips You're all that and a bag of chips. My words. He loves the soundboard and he applies for your jingles just to... He applies to jingles everything he can. He's an all-around awesome fan and awesome guy above all. Well, great. Let me hand out some karma. That's very funny. I like that. You've got karma. And Marsha, you should be listening yourself too. You might learn some things. Carl Middleton in Ocean Grove, Victoria.

1:51:18 Double nickels on the dime, long time boner, first time donor, like to be de-douched and need some karma for a new job and move to the country so my daughter can grow up without Sharia law being pushed down her throat. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Oscar, Sir Oscar Nadal in Tecate, California, double niggles on the dime. The pre-karma call works. I told myself that if I got an award for my scooter restoration on the high roller scooter rally. Wait, we did this one. We did this one. Unless it had gotten through. Okay, yeah, we did this one. Thanks Oscar. That's a night. We can always always thank our nights of course Arcata, California double nickels on the dime Fernando Yen is yeah, I don't inez here's my donation. I'm gonna be 28 years old today So I'd like a birthday shout out and some karma for my wife and father in their job hunt all right. You've got karma

1:52:18 A Frenchman, Peter Lutcraft, where he's in France. He's a masculine and midi-Pyrenees. It could be Spain. No, midi-Pyrenees is France. $55, no comment. Hey, you know, can I just say something about a French guy? Yeah. So there's this French guy at the market here in Austin. And you know, these French guys, they don't talk. The farmer's market or the regular market? The farmer's market. And they don't really talk, you know, but it was raining and everything. And I wanted to buy some beef and he didn't have any. He said I don't sell beef. What do you got? I got some you want red meat? I say yeah, have some duck and Mickey's like nose was like hmm. I'm like well What should we do and this guy starts talking about how to make this and all of a sudden he's like yes I'm from Bordeaux and You know all my ducks and chickens I have to smuggle them in from Canada because they have no GMO and it was really fascinating and he suggested that first I put some balsamic vinegar

1:53:15 that I kind of, you know, that I fry it up and then add some fig preserve. And then he said that way the duck would just be fantastic. Did you buy the duck? Yeah, of course I did. Why would Mickey turn her nose up at duck? Duck is fantastic. Yeah, I'm just saying. But it was interesting that... I guess you don't eat duck in Holland. I guess what I'm saying is that the French guys are very reserved and very quiet and they don't say a lot, but then you get them talking and you kind of get into the conversation. Then all of a sudden he's talking about his illegal importation. Ducks. He's bringing in because he got no GMOs. He had blue... because they're heirloom chickens. He has chickens and ducks.

1:54:01 And you had bluefoot. I think it's bluefoot chickens does that ring a bell. I don't know did not to me I mean Mimi might know she keeps up with all the chicken breeds. Yes, and she did releasing her egg book. It's coming out It's almost you got two chapters left to finish. Yeah, bluefoot chicken. Yeah, look at the book of knowledge real quick Well, we played the jingle those but you know Yes, a Canadian breed of chicken bred to resemble the French chicken the poulet de bresse, the bresson chicken, which by the way is the greatest chicken in the world. I was at a place in Germany once a guy brought one of those things. So yeah, no, so this guy, you should have got his card. I don't need his card. I know where to find him. Mickey just sent me a text message. Hey, don't talk to talk. Don't talk to talk about me like that. Like I turned up my nose. Well, she did. I saw it.

1:54:54 Because I looked at it she went like duck, but then when the guy started talking about it We got really got into it the several breeders who have been relocated to California allowing the breed to survive and flourish in the u.s. No he said that the the gitmo cops came in and and they basically just took away all these chitin not his but You can't get bluefoot chickens in North America in the United States only in Canada and That's not true anymore. In wake of the Canadian cull, it was a cull that killed them all. All stocks remaining are now in California. And they're GMO. And the blue, I don't know about that. That's what he says. Well, that could be bull crap. You see people who, I tell you this, people who do heirloom breeds of anything are really not doing any GMO anything. No, he's not. No, nobody is. I mean, I don't believe these Bluefoot Californians are GMOed.

1:55:46 I think you may be wrong. Well anyway, it's called now the California Bluefoot. I'm happy with my French connection and the guy will probably be gone next week because someone listened to this show is like hey let's go down to fourth and Lamar we got a frog who's got illegal birds come on come on but let's go get us that frog. Is this your version of a Texan? Yeah. Yeah, Russell Smith in Huntington. Back to our, excuse me, back to the donation list after discussing Mr. McCraft. Intermezzo. Russell Smith in Huntington something. He's in Cam, Cam, I don't know, it says Cam's. 5342 Russell from Gitmo Nation East looking for a spot of 40th birthday karma on the 11th. Give him the karma. Yeah, and he's on the list of course.

1:56:38 You've got karma. I guess I was just saying it just you know hey French guys You know we don't hate you we not only do we appreciate any donation, but you can pony up. You know we know you're listening Yeah, no, and we know and we love food any food tip you have is well appreciated. Yeah, yeah Like to put fruit with their meat yeah, I will check in on Thursday after we've tried the recipe okay, I Duck can be, by the way, duck can be slightly, you don't want to overcook a duck. You actually want a slight... You want it red. You want it red. A little rareness in the breast. Yeah, don't read the name here, read the kiss cut. I'm just reading Tristan Kerrigan, Wilson Kerrigan, Padbury. Yeah, okay.

1:57:22 Hey, firstly refer to me as Kiss Cut. No, that's different. I'm talking about Kristen Kerrigan. Oh, okay. The Padbury, the Kerrigan, the Tristans. Oh, the Tristans from- Mine's in Wagga Wagga and the other one's in- Right, I'm sorry, my mistake. Yeah, Kiss Cut and Centurion Gauteng. I don't want my boss hearing my name as I know he listens. It's been a while since I donated. I was on the $5 a month blog. Wait a minute, why wouldn't you want- I logged in and PayPal stopped. Why wouldn't you want your boss to know if he listens to? Isn't that cool? You could give your boss a shout out. I don't understand. It's just work hours. Also, call out non-donating South Africans as a cheap-ass bunch of douchebags. I get your money's worth for 50 bucks.

1:58:10 He's also complaining about the, just on a side note, we do have these problems with PayPal. We have one that's been really somewhat weird. We got Dave Koss who had a 33-33 monthly subscription and he all of a sudden... And PayPal tells him that we cancelled it. Yeah, that's bullcrap. You know what, I finally was thinking about that today because that's been going back and forth. I think what it might be is the following. We are not like the typical, you know, whatever you do, track them down and keep charging them, which you can actually, there's a box down there you can check on PayPal. if your car changes anything like that and changes every two years or every year for some people. Yeah, it expires. It gets killed. Yeah. And so that they blame us because we check the box that that's what that's what you that's we check that box which is the amenable box which means we're not going to try to screw anybody by making them continue to pay forever. So it's our fault then. So then it's automatically our fault.

1:59:09 And they, but I think it's unfair for PayPal to blame us in such, in the way that they do it. It makes it look like, it makes it look like we're douchebags. It makes us look like douchebags. It should be, you've been cancelled by rule. Or by, yeah. By rule? Yeah, well, or something like because these guys don't want to screw you, you know. Well, they're not going to do that. Or how about a heads up, you know? It's like, well, you know, if you'd like to continue your subscription is what it's called, then, you know, say yes. Give them a shot at it. Say, hey, would you like to continue with the new card? That's what they should do. Yeah. But they don't. That's what bothers me. Yeah, it's very bothersome.

1:59:49 I don't like it. We had, not to belabor the point, I'm sure it's boring to some people, but it's not boring to us. We had like when we started doing the show we had this you know just in the guy paypal account that I had when we just yeah We don't started collecting on that and then we switched to the no agenda account a specific account for our show So we don't have to worry about mixing numbers and the IRS hates that kind of thing right and once we did that the other one just essentially just has a bunch of old Subscriptions that still go into it and it's down to almost nothing yeah Yeah, they just all went away. The subscriptions have all expired because of this method that we... Well, the upsetting thing is, of course, that it's really the monthly donations that give us a base. It's probably about, what would you say, 20%? I think it's, on some times when we have a bad week, it's 30 and 40%.

2:00:42 But you just see that diminish over time it just it just goes away well a bit so if we stop doing the show Their money would just I mean it would be it just just unless you keep hounding people and Mentioning that you're if you go check your $5 subscription you're gonna discover that you don't have a $5 subscription It's gonna say that at least half the people lost their subscription Yeah, and which is bad because people think that they're supporting the show and actually they're not right Anyway, yeah, well on that happy note. Thank you for complaining to that, but no the I will say once again Thank you very much to our anonymous donor. I will say that he's from Florida and that was a beautiful thing and I hope that we have more people of this ilk who contributed in this amount because it makes me happy and motivates me I don't know about you, but I get really motivated when we have a good show this way and

2:01:39 And I'm happy to go and read bills and look at C-SPAN again and give up some form of a life. Because honestly, I've noticed with the South by Southwest thing, like we've gone out and gone into town like three times this week. It's horrible. I spent all this time catching up. I'm tired. I get I feel sick because I'm around people, you know, I have no resistance and let me just say one thing about South by Southwest and because it just I remembered this so they have all these stupid gadgets right this because they and everyone's trying to find the great gadget the great app whatever it is and

2:02:22 Here's the stock answer because you know all these things like who needs that There's a shopping cart that will follow you around when you're shopping and say who needs that oh, there's this skateboard that will you know? We do think go forward and it moves for us and who needs that stock answer for all these gadgets. You don't need well listen if you were in a wheelchair man, you'd really appreciate it That is now the stock answer at South By. If you were in a wheelchair, you'd appreciate it. So everything is like... Hey man, if you were in a wheelchair, you'd like this app, okay? So shut up already, because you can't say anything. What are you going to say? I'm against people in wheelchairs now? No, you know, that's the that's the conversation ender. It's the buzzkill. It's the shut up line of the day. Shut up line. Anyway, thank you again. Who needs it? By the way, who needs a cart following you around the store? It's creepy. I got into the whole conversation, man. Then it was like, well, you know, if you're in a wheelchair, then it's cool. End of conversation. Pass the bread.

2:03:26 Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. There was another one. It's like you hang this brick around your neck with a sensor in it and you put your iPad or your iPhone in this little swivel dinghy and then as you're walking around, presumably you need two hands free to jerk off watching your porn, then if you move around then the iPad swivels so you always have view of it. I mean, and you're literally wearing a slave necklace. But you know, if you're in a wheelchair, you'd be very happy with that. Yeah. It's just crazy. Yeah, I know. That's South by Southwest. The technology portion of it.

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2:05:01 Turning 28, he turned 28 on the 8th and we congratulate him. And Opal Coulter, she says happy birthday to herself and we're very happy for all of you. And thank you for supporting the NOAAgenda program, the best podcast in the universe! And then we do have a night today, which is nice. So we should probably cross swords here, John. Very nice. Carl Barron, step forward please. And if you wish, our loyal listener Anonymous. You're more than welcome to step forward, sir. And kneel before us as you have supported the program in the amount of $1,000 or more. This not only gets you the coveted No Agenda Night Ring, but also gives us the opportunity to bestow upon you the title of Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable, Sir Carl Barron, Sir Anonymous, the loyal listener, hookers and blow, rimfoys and chardonnay, hot vans and booze right here, and wenches and beer. Thank you again.

2:05:59 It keeps us going wenches and beer wenches and beer and I really I mean PBS is doing all that stuff now. It's like I watch the PBS news hour is just part of my diet To see if they're propagating the same bullcrap. Of course, they are and these days is like now We're going to take a break from news hour So your local station can put two douchebags on who will have a really poorly produced produced piece about giving you a tote bag in exchange for some money and And it's just, it's not, and it's not just some money. Some of these things are unbelievable. $500,000. They have a one on KQED locally where they're asking you to give, give your entire estate to them and then they'll lease back to you so you can live in peace without having to pay any rent or anything. Whoa, hold on a second. How does that work?

2:06:47 We can set this up. How does this work? Well, you have to get an estate planner and essentially you donate your entire everything you own to the station. Yeah. And then they podcast. Yeah. Which is nothing, you know, we were donating. But every week is like, hey, the estate payments came in. Let's see, we've got a USB thumb drive. We've got some rope. And we got some hairpins. Wait a minute, so how does that work? So then we get an annuity from that? Is that how that works? No, no, they give the estate to some estate planning. I don't know, there's a middleman involved in this. I think kind of like those cars for kids.

2:07:25 You know and these things where you give a car to the charity and they never really collect the card goes to some middleman anyway you give your whole estate to them and then they There's a like a buyback lease back deal where you like I have my house So I give my house and all my property to no agenda podcast. Yeah, I No, I well in this case. I'll give a house to make it more set to the no agenda We're not gonna be able to do that we I'm gonna do something I'm gonna explain it in a way that makes sense okay. I have a house I give it to them they now buy the house and I and put me in the house for free and I live in the house until I die Hey, man, it works if you're in a wheelchair

2:08:05 Well, you know what? There's enough foundations out there, hundreds of billions of dollars, well, hundreds of millions, and I'm sure billions of dollars are given away to bull crap programming. And some of these people I think are listening now. I think we have, I haven't looked at the numbers. I mean, which means nothing. In fact, I can't even get stats anymore on me via the page just doesn't even work. Um, But I have a feeling that we are expanding, that there are people checking in. We have some new listeners every once in a while. I don't think it's growing as fast as I'd like. Is it because we're not a non-profit? Which by the way, we couldn't be a non-profit. No, it would make zero difference. It's just a bunch of paperwork and it's just a tax night. We pay taxes on this money. We sure do.

2:08:54 And that's that. And it's gonna, you'd have to do it anyway because it's gonna come out of the non-profit, you know what I mean, just whatever you keep in there. It's too much, it's a lot of extra work. If we're gonna do that, then we do something a little more elaborate than, you know, a podcast. Like a Ponzi scheme. Yeah, we do something that was crooked. If we were smart, we would. Like Clinton. So, no, we're just gonna straight up. Like Bill. Yeah, we follow his lead. I mean there's a guy who knows what he's doing. We're the two stooges. We are idiots. Bitchin' and moanin' about Clinton. Yeah, we're dumb. We're dumb. We are so dumb. Anyway, okay, well, but I'm just saying that, you know, I plan on doing this until I keel over.

2:09:36 It could be any minute the way you're going. No. What are you talking about? I'm very healthy. I'm eating duck. You're hanging out at bars, smoking. The smoking thing. There's that. Well, the Mickey is stopping in August. We're quitting. Okay, you did that before. But you know, one of these days it'll work. Well, thanks for the encouragement. So I'm looking at that blue duck. I'm looking at pictures. That thing's got blue foot. It's got blue feet. Yeah. You know, there was some guy and he said, hey, what should I call this bird? I shall call it Broo. Foot you take and you strip the bird of all its feathers you cook it and you leave the feet on it as part of the decoration And they're blue. They're like blue cool Eric the shill actually sent me this clip which I want that thought was worth playing This is up in your neck of the woods at least your annex up there the the in Washington

2:10:24 As the laws are now expanding and there was something I caught in this report that is the reason why I'm playing it Because you know, we know that we live in a gitmo nation. We already have when the government takes over. Yeah Turn on a podcast So apparently you already have to have a breathalyzer if you've been convicted of a DUI. Yeah, this is a great story. This is idiotic. And of course they always bring in one guy who says, yeah I think it's great. And then they always bring in a victim, which is very sad, and I don't want to make light of the fact that this family's 15-year-old girl was killed by a DUI, by a drunk driver essentially. And they showed actually where she was walking, and I have to say it was a dangerous place to be walking.

2:11:14 But, you know, it doesn't matter. That sucks. But listen to what they're doing in addition to the breathalyzer. While legislators in Olympia haggled over how to close a budget shortfall, they agreed on at least one thing. Unanimously passing a bill cracking down on people driving under the influence. You can't always stop people from becoming impaired. This woman, by the way, is a legislator. She looks like every sexual repressed person you've ever seen in the world in one body. It's just like, ugh. There's a way to stop them from getting behind the wheel and driving. The legislation expanded DUI laws to include huffing, the act of inhaling chemicals to get high. It would also make it tougher to fool an ignition breathalyzer. The new law could force offenders to pay for cameras that prove they're the ones taking the test instead of a sober friend. So, I'll stop it here. That's enough.

2:11:59 Cameras, so now not only will you have to Use a breathalyzer to start your card, but just to make sure it's you they'll have a camera spying on you Just to make sure this is pre-crime by the way It's pre-crime now the thing that caught me that that I heard in this report was the term huffing Yeah, had you ever heard this term huffing? Yeah, and what is huffing? It's breathing like, it's done in different ways. You can spray a bunch of some weird like paint into a paper bag and then you breathe in the gas from the paper bag or you can just find some kind of container. It's just breathing. It's breathe, it refers to breathing in fumes. So interestingly enough if you consult the book of knowledge. There's also the Huffington Post which apparently, I never read it but I guess it's all about this. If you consult the book of knowledge on huffing

2:12:55 It turns out that yeah, this is a big problem, but it's a problem among 12 year olds. It consists of kids. Yeah, older kids, they get E. A recent study has found that dangerous inhalants are the most popular drug among 12 year olds right now. More kids in this early age bracket than ever before are sniffing everything from glue to nail polish remover and yes, even gasoline to get high. And the results have been absolutely devastating for America's families. So I'm like... Blow out your liver, kids. Dumb. I'm wondering why... I guess they blow out their liver and then go driving. But why did they slip in that huffing into the people who... Because she's an idiot like this other congresswoman. Well no, it's just... Hello, hello, hello. She threw it in. She doesn't... I don't think it was anything onerous. No, no, no. She didn't do it. It was in the news package. Oh, well they were idiots. This is... No, I think there's something going on. Yeah, I don't think so. But it's maybe.

2:13:52 Here's what's going on, they're trying to kill their reporters. This is a good start. CNN has said, at least I think I've seen this twice now, but this is just one I had to record. They sent some bonehead, they put her in a hazmat suit and sent her to Fukushima. Toe protective gear, full facial respirators and hazmat suits. And then we drove up to the world's worst nuclear accident in 25 years. first look on the ground at the reactors. This is the heart of the nuclear problem in Japan. What you're seeing over my shoulder are the reactors. There are four of them. The two that you see over my right shoulder, those are two of the reactors that exploded in the early days of this disaster. When you take a look

2:14:37 at the reactor. Hello, John, I am now in my hazmat suit and I am walking into the reactor. This is where the actual meltdown occurred and I am of course a wage slave for CNN and I will do anything to get on television and possibly get laid. So this is, John, how come you're not wearing your hazmat suit? I'm dead. That was a good sound effect. I got it. I gotta use this more often. That's not bad. So the swine flu is... Are you talking into a cup or what are you doing? The swine... I can't tell you, it's a hazmat suit. It's a plastic one. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Over and out. John, I think we should go over here and check out the... check out the court.

2:15:28 Curry, can you pick up one of the rods and see if it feels hot? What rod? See if it feels hot. Let me just check for a second. Yeah, yeah. I got a hot rod in my pants. And that ends that bit. So anyway, they send this woman. I don't know, does she understand radioactivity at this level? You know, it's not about the dust getting on you so much. It's about the radiation. It's the radiation. As you walk past the thing, it's unbelievable. I think they've sent two people. I think CNN has sent two dummies and both of them, neither one of them are brand names. They're just some person you've heard of. You don't see Pooper wearing his hat. That was trying to keep him honest. I'm Anderson Pooper for CNN. And now Sanjay Gupta. You don't see Pooper wearing the suit.

2:16:22 There is, you know, so this whole report which I saw, they were promoing it quite a lot. I gotta say, you know, I know nothing about nothing and really anything. I'm totally uneducated douchebag. But I think this is just more fear-mongering about nuclear. Oh yeah, no, I think there's that element. I'm not going to disagree with your basic thesis that, you know, we're doing anything we can to discredit nuclear. And there was a report that now, and this is actually alternative news, which, you know, could the enviro-reporter.com, which I, you know, question.

2:17:03 You know, there is now 6.7 times the radiation measured in Los Angeles than normal. And they're saying this, of course, is Fukushima radiation that is drifted across. You know, I got to question this. I'm wondering. Yeah, I'm really not on board. It's a ways away. Hey, let's talk about vaccines for a second or just some big pharma news because I hate them as much as I hate our douchebag idiot politicians. I don't use the word hate lightly. In the never-ending quest to continue... You're not a hater. I'm a lover, not a fighter. I don't know about that. In our never-ending quest, the pharmaceuticals never-ending quest to recategorize their out-of-patent chemicals

2:17:56 Of course, we've seen Lipitor, which is a cholesterol drug, which has gone out of patent. We've seen Lipitor being, you know, working miracles on Alzheimer's, trying to get that reclassified. Then we have Proparanolol. Proparanolol is a beta blocker, so that is a blood pressure drug. Guess what they found now? You're going to love this. So this is, you know, it's out of patent, so anyone can make it. Researchers have found that people who took propo-nanolol scored significantly lower on a standard test used to detect subconscious racial attitudes. What? And from the Telegraph in the UK, blood pressure drug reduces built-in racism. It's an anti-racist drug. What? Yeah! Blood pressure? Medicine.

2:18:53 a drug reduces built-in racism. No, but high blood pressure itself creates racism? No, this drug, this drug that they're trying to reclassify into the anti-hate blackie or hate whitey drug, apparently like when you take this to lower your blood pressure, it has a wonderful side effect of you becoming unracist. Who comes up with this? Researchers. This is a gem. Researchers. This took a lot of research. What the hell can we do? I don't know. What are we going to do? We're screwed. I got an idea. What is the test by the way? They won't see this one coming. I'd like to take the racial test. The beta blocker drug can reduce subconscious racism. Oh, Oxford University.

2:19:43 Oxford University did this test John. This is a it's called the oh the implicit association test and if you click on that link I get no study session stack trace Java Lang exception no study test that's too bad their servlet broke Wow maybe we can let's Google this let's take this test what's the name of it the implicit association test designed to test subtle and spontaneous biased behavior Wow I never heard of this. I used to be a test administrator. Amongst your many other talents. At the, I know it's weird, huh? Implicit. It was a job you did on weekends. Implicit? So I gave all these different tests including, and I know a lot about these tests like the Minnesota multi-phase inventory which I think is the most interesting of all the tests which is actually illegal to give in the United States if you're an employer but everybody gives it.

2:20:37 Nobody's really you know they do it even though. It's illegal. Oh, yeah big time go to the demonstration test from Harvard implicit association test okay age Demonstration select the test hold on select the test they have a racial one Sexuality race race I got religion native Asian. What should I do? I'll erase here there. Oh, that's a bottom. No. It's halfway through oh Mine's at the bottom. It says race IAT. The IAT requires ability to distinguish... Mine's halfway full. Okay, halfway through. All right, race AIT. Click here to begin. Let's do this. I'm liking this. It's the same test. Oh my goodness, I got a full page. You have opted to complete the African-American, European-American IAT. Well, I wonder, you know, I bet you they're randomizing where they put it on the thing just because people randomly pick one. Okay, which statement best describes you?

2:21:37 I strongly prefer European Americans to African Americans. What is this, Taz? I slightly prefer European... I don't know, how about... I have like a whole thing I gotta fill out first. Oh really? I don't have... I'm straight in, baby. Oh, you got a better link than I did. So I don't prefer anybody. There's no... I don't prefer anybody to anybody. You can only choose preferences. This is rigged. It's rigged which statement best describes you I strongly prefer European Americans to African Americans I moderately prefer European Americans to African Americans. I slightly prefer Oh here it is. I like European Americans and African Americans equally there you go Please rate how warm or cold you feel towards the following groups zero is coldest feeling five neutral ten the warmest African Americans What do you mean warm? neutral

2:22:30 I went back and I banged on the refresh and when the race thing moved to the middle I clicked on it and now I'm in the same. But my questions are like, I never regret my decisions. How about this? I'd like to have friends who are unpredictable. Yeah, well hold on a second. Yes, strongly agree. I don't like situations that are uncertain. Strongly disagree. I am not a safe driver when I exceed the speed limit. Moderately disagree. I'm not particularly good at making other people like me. Strongly agree. I think of myself as someone who is depressed or blue. Moderately disagree. I've never dropped litter on the street. Well, strongly disagree, I guess. I think of myself as someone who tends to be quiet. Disagree strongly. I don't like to go into a situation without knowing what I can expect from it. Moderately disagree. I always obey laws.

2:23:29 Even if I'm unlikely to get caught. Strongly disagree. Oh, and they switch the order by the way. Interesting. I never cover up my mistakes. I strongly agree. Now that's to see if you're reading the test. Yeah, okay. The problem is a lot of people when they take these tests and they switch the order, they still click on, now they click on the wrong answer and it screws up the test and nobody ever says anything. Right. I hate it when you have to scroll down five times for age. Ethnicity, Hispanic or Latino, not Hispanic or Latino, really. Race, what am I? White? I guess. I guess. How many IATs have you approved to perform? Zero. Political identity, what am I? Strongly conservative?

2:24:16 What's the options? Moderately conservative, slightly neutral. I think neutral, I have no agenda. I think you go neutral. Occupation, right. Unemployed. Religious affiliation, new age. Hindu. Unaffiliated atheist, unaffiliated agnostic. I think agnostic is better. Education. Some college. Major field of study that held your highest degree. Douchebaggery. Communications. Country of primary citizenship. USA. We're almost done. Country of residence. USA. Current postal code. Hmm. I don't like doing that, but I will. And where I've lived the longest. Postal code. Jersey. So that's... What was New Jersey again? What's the New Jersey postal code?

2:25:15 You know I'm taking this test with you, and I've got a completely different test with a bunch of things I got to do on the screen. I got to move the mouse around. Oh really. I've just got questions. Let's see oh here We go what next test should we present them with the words. This is stupid. You'll be here forever. Yeah, I think it later We'll discuss the answers we got on the next show. There's other things to do we certainly have other things to do well anyway What we should do is we should try this test and then try it again and After popping a few pills of this beta blocker and see if we having a couple glasses of cognac It's crazy something very interesting the co-author of the autism vaccine

2:26:04 MMR paper remember that so we add dr. Andrew Wakefield remember that guy who everyone ridiculed and there's no science, right? They ran him out of town on a rail. So his co-author of that paper professor John Walker Smith won an appeal against Gitmo Nation East General Medical Council regulatory board that had ruled against both him and Wakefield for their roles in the 1998 MMR paper and They've completely overturned the entire ruling restoring him back to full credibility And like that was reported in the news no no of course not Yeah, that should be in The New York Times This is important stuff should be in The New York Times of course. I don't see it of course not

2:26:59 I heard a rotary phone fall. You have a rotary phone there, don't you? No, that was the bell that the slide whistle slid off the printer which had the newspaper on top of it that I was trying to pull out from under and the slide whistle slides down the printer and hits the rotary bell. I have never seen your office but I'm worried that one day you will pull out the wrong thing, you'll be buried. There's a lot of stuff in this office. Every once in a while my daughter cleans it up for me. So let's play a clip or two before we get into it. Good idea. I got one for you here. So I'm watching this

2:27:36 There's a lot of stuff in there. We'll talk about SOPA and PIP in a minute, but there was a bunch of testimony for different kinds of anti-piracy. So they brought it forward. This guy Larry Conrad, the CIO of the University of North Carolina, who's made a long discussion about how they're trying to change students' habits and all the rest of it. But just play the education opportunity thing. And then he doesn't really read anything from his slideshow, so I have to go back and read something for you after he's finished. ...steps of the Hall Pass program. The basic program is to comply with the Higher Education Opportunity Act of 2008. And you heard the three components that were involved with that. The Hall Pass program is focused on number one and number two. The number three issue, I think as Joe pointed out, there's some promising developments. Those things go beyond things that CILs can necessarily address. Where's your Hall Pass slave?

2:28:33 Okay, so what so let me just read just section of the first and second and also the third thing you know what I thought Hi, he doesn't mention him. He just puts it up on the screen, but I started to write it down the higher education opportunity Act Oh. Of 2008. This is like, I think somebody, they're passing this law about, you know, about trying to bust Barack Obama for creating these wars or doing these wars. They should bust Congress for naming these bills. Let me just read the two items. This is the Higher Opportunity, the Higher Education Opportunity Act. One, disclose the illegality of file sharing, copyrighted material annually.

2:29:15 This is an opportunity. This is an opportunity. Number two, have a plan to effectively combat illegal content sharing. Another opportunity. three offer alternatives. What is this got to do with higher education opportunity? I thought it was a hall pass if you have to go number one or number two. I misunderstood what he was saying. I got a hall pass for number one. It's a complicated issue in itself. So we do have a clip that we could play at the end of the show which is Chris Dodd explaining something very important. How long is it? It's five minutes.

2:29:51 Well, is it something we want to respond to? I'm happy to listen to it. Here's what we I already have what we can respond to. Let's talk about the Utah Attorney General who stood in front of all these attorney generals and gave his little talk bitching and moaning about how soap and Pippa got shot down after he'd written an editorial saying it was so great and he kind of discusses how it happened and I think this is one of the most important clips is a little long that we've ever played because for the first time ever Apparently, a slam dunk, which is what Chris Dodd talks about, which makes the Chris Dodd clip interesting. The SOPA and PIPA bills were slam dunks. Everybody in committee said, let's do it. Everybody in Congress said, let's do it. But

2:30:36 They didn't do it because the internet actually got a bunch of public relations going and it shot it down. It's the first time that I know that has happened to such an extreme. Just listen to the Utah Attorney General bitching about being attacked. over soap a pippa by his own kids. peer-to-peer piracy, privacy, and pornography. So, um, and since before Grokster decision, which many of us who were here in 2005 obviously joined in on an amicus brief in support, but we've been looking in Utah ways to try and better protect those whose intellectual property is being stolen. And it's still a big problem, obviously, hence SOPA PIPA.

2:31:29 But my view of what happened there and seeing members of my delegation who completely turned around was this extremely well orchestrated, internet based, false misinformation. about what SOPA and PIPA did. We knew it wasn't perfect, but the lies that were told online is what killed it. And then a very well orchestrated internet campaign to label anybody in support of SOPA, PIPA, whether they're legislators or attorneys general who wrote op-eds in support of SOPA, PIPA, as people who were anti-free speech, who wanted to censor the internet, who wanted to cripple an innovative economy on the internet.

2:32:12 Even my own kids hearing, teenagers hearing this came down on me for being against free speech and against the internet. I'm looking right now by a major corporation who have representatives in this room with their end piracy not liberty mantra and telling people to contact Congress and stop censorship of the internet. I guarantee you that as AGs go forward, and I'm inclined to do so, I'll tell you right now, You go forward with efforts to hold ISPs responsible in some ways for what's going on. That we will face the same attacks. So anyway, so he's whining. Yeah. Hey, my kids called me a douchebag. Yeah. And he, yeah, his kids, he never said that he changed their minds, by the way. Hey, you know what? Drone those kids is legal. So he's just, he apparently was very vested, this guy in Utah because he's so important to Hollywood, so important to him. But,

2:33:09 But what got me, and he's talking about lies, lies, lies, which is bull crap, because this has been very deeply studied by the technologists as a couple of pieces of crap. But the one, this little short clip he says right here, the second one, Utah AG Sopa, he makes this claim, and every time I hear this claim, I just cringe. Appreciate that, and it's just, as I've been thinking through when it became this, you know, Silicon Valley versus Hollywood and big companies and big, you know, are the literally millions of artists, young, struggling, the ones who are truly being injured on this and their voice needed to be heard. If I could just give one plug, and he didn't put me on this, I'll embarrass him, but, you know, Van Stevenson has been working with us for, well, 12 years now, and he's a great source. He's not getting a pay raise. I'm sorry.

2:33:55 If we can keep working with him, that would be great. If nothing else. He does a great, great job. Yeah, a bunch of douchebags. Struggling artists are screwed. They have to sign their copyrights away. Anyone who's a writer or an artist who does any of this stuff already knows this is a lie. This is an out and out blatant lie by the Utah Attorney General. The struggling artists already screwed by the system. It's these guys who buy up the copyrights and require you. You want to work here? Sign your copyrights away, kid. So it's just a blatant... this guy should be... this guy should be embarrassed. Let me just weigh in on this. So much to say. There must be an understanding that the... I know the music business very, very well.

2:34:50 And this was always a cabal and it was based upon distribution. And when the distribution falls apart, everything falls apart. That is the way a market works. And there are a couple of things, directions that we have to look to And you are absolutely right. There is no way, no way, unless you are an Illuminati slave, because that's the only people making money. I'm looking at you, P. Diddy, Rihanna, Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears, these MK Ultra kids, and P. Diddy is also, he's just a sad, sad, sad little monarch child who are only in existence and have money to program children

2:35:40 That this you know that what they're doing is good And they've got all their evil all-seeing-eye signals and their big monarch butterflies, and that's complete programming otherwise There is no money to be made like it used to be now There's good news, and we actually talked about this before the show started because of the mp3 revolution which is probably the worst thing ever to happen to recorded music is Your brain spends so much time decoding what you're hearing. It's a 10 to 1 compression ratio. It's the equivalent of putting a cheesecloth over your ears. You are not hearing it. This is why when kids go to live gigs and they hear a real beautiful uncompressed recording, they're blown away.

2:36:31 You can still make a living by performing live. But that's it. It's over. The millions, forget about it. This has only been around for 50-60 years because of a distribution system. So, either accept your vow of poverty and enjoy life, but please, please don't think that you can make money anymore in the music business. Two ways to go. You become an Illuminati slave or you perform live and enrich people's lives and you live on alms, which by the way, I think a lot of guys who I see performing in Austin are probably doing about the same that you and I are doing, John, on the show. And it's, you know, passersby hand out money, you know, you do it enough and then you build up a little reputation. You can make a living, but it's not... Yeah, and I play music.

2:37:24 I would not even drop a quarter in your hat for that. You might if I kept playing. Yeah. So forget about it. Just forget. And if your kids are watching that, I hate the sound. I know I'm sounding like my parents, but it's crap. The P Diddy crap. It's crap. It's crap. That's about time you came up with that. Where are the love songs? It's crap. Somebody brought that up. I did. Where are the love songs? It's crap. A lot of people do. All you hear is the rain man cometh, that's another Illuminati sign, umber ala Illuminati sign, they all got their three fingers in the air, where they're looking through their ring, their index finger and thumb, it's all satanic bull crap. And they're programming your kids. And music videos? I'm happy MTV doesn't play music videos anymore because they're putting stuff in it that turns your kids into zombies.

2:38:23 And I know what I'm talking about here. I think I have some credentials in this area. You have cred. I got cred. Yeah, standing. I also have crud. That's a different story. And the good news is there will be a No Agenda Producer update on the stream right after this program ends with a little pre-show before that so you can make sure you listen to all of that stuff. We'll be winding up with our final show clip of Chris Douchebag, Dodd. Can't wait to hear that he actually makes logical sense And you can tell that they should take more long-term Congress people that have been in there forever know the ropes And they're trying to get legislation passed and make them the head of these operations He's a lot better than Jack Valenti even though. He's still just another white-haired douchebag. Yeah, and what else was I gonna say? Oh yes artists

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2:40:01 The problem of piracy continues to persist. General Hood and I have been working on this for how long now? Jim, four years at least. And by the way, he's been a tremendous leader on this whole topic, including especially the issue of piracy on campus. So I'm really glad you could be here for this, Jim. But MPAA, or Senator Dodd, any thoughts on where we go next with SOPA? Well, listen, I mean, is this on? There it is. It was a threshold event. I mean, I think in watching events, as many of you have, not all of you, and how a bill becomes law. I mean, normally if you look at this process, you had a unanimous vote out of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Democrats and Republicans agreeing with the bill that Senator Leahy and Senator Hatch originally worked on.

2:40:44 The House had a similar situation, not quite as unanimous. But I think anybody would be hard-pressed to name another issue. In the last four or five years we had that degree of unanimity around a subject matter. And that is to try and come up with answers to deal with foreign sites. Because all of you know we've had domestic legislation to deal with domestic sites. In fact, have shut down some 300 or so in the last year or two. But obviously the criminals have learned very quickly that if they can get outside the shores of the United States, then they'd be on the reach of the law. and are able to avoid the kind of efforts that were made domestically. And again, I have great respect for Lamar Smith and for Howard Berman who led the effort in the House.

2:41:27 But I think candidly the legislation had some issues that needed to be addressed and thought through. But normally you do that. You'll have a bill introduced and then through an amendment process you get back to a point where people decide this is a workable solution to move forward. This took on a whole new life, obviously. Within a space of eight or ten days you had between eight and ten million emails that came flooding in. And a lot of it was about freedom of speech. The terms of the debate changed. You globalized an issue that you had been hard-pressed to find 20 people interested in the subject matter of copyright prior to that. And then, candidly, the opportunity for it to respond was almost eliminated entirely.

2:42:05 But the issue doesn't go away, as you've heard from the panelists and others today looking for solutions to this. I don't believe anything will happen in the remainder of this year. Again, election year politics are always difficult at any level. And the idea of having another issue come up like this is probably unwise, although I leave it up to the members of Congress to decide that issue. My guess would be that they would not try to move forward right now. But there are efforts underway, and we need to try and find a solution to the issue. My hope is that we can get, and I mentioned this briefly in my remarks, and that this does require a level of cooperation obviously between the technology community and the content community. Both need each other. The idea that technology can exist without content or content will exist without technology is sort of ludicrous on its face, it seems to me. And particularly when you consider the value to us in this country. We didn't talk about these numbers today in the context of this and I realize they're not highly persuasive.

2:42:59 But there's a lot of misinformation about the film and television industry. This industry employs 2.2 million people every day. Now some are selling popcorn and others are making a lot of money at another end. But an average salary is $55,000 a year. Good pensions, good health care benefits result in the industry. We bring back more revenues to the United States than aerospace, agriculture or automobiles. It's a product that the world enjoys, even those who aren't necessarily our friends around the world. Given the choice between watching a product made by the film and television industry anywhere else in the world would choose the American product. And so there's a lot more at stake here. This is an industry in which you can have a high school diploma and a year or two of technical training get a very good job in this industry.

2:43:45 I think anyone must be hard-pressed to name another industry where that kind of opportunity exists without having completed a college education or even beyond to get a good job. Now, again, those aren't persuasive statistics because, again, as I think Rick pointed out, people see this as a victimless kind of crop. How much harm can I really cause if I'm stealing a film or television product from what we perceive as overpaid people in this business? And yet I think if more people were aware How many average people, the people whose names you're never going to see on a marquee, but watch the credits at the end, the people in this room standing behind these cameras or operating the sound systems, are 98% of the employees in this business. The 2% that we read about and hear about represent a fraction of the people affected by this industry.

2:44:33 And so it's an important issue and my hope is that over this gap, if you will, between now and next January, February or so, that people can come together around some solutions for national legislation. Memorialize, if need be, a codify. ideas that will allow us to move forward in this 21st century where content and intellectual property are protected. It is the lifeblood of any country and any ability. In fact, the Internet itself would have been in deep trouble if you'd had this attitude about copyright 20 years ago, where the very ideas that gave birth to this remarkable industry would be at risk, in my view. So we really need some leadership on this issue. And my hope is in these coming weeks and months we'll get it. And I think the idea of SOPA, whatever you're going to call this,

2:45:16 I'm pleased by God they don't call it SOPA. Think of some new name for this, by the way, given this has become sort of a mantra almost internationally. Right. My security scan shows it has a grade one priority, Captain. Non-belligerency confirmed. Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A-W-R-A-K.