13:19 So Uncle Don is on PBS last night. He's on what show? News Hour. Oh. Yeah, so Uncle Don's on News Hour. This is my Uncle Don, former security advisor. For the government. No, we could say it. Uncle Don. You can look him up on the Wikipedia and find everything you need to know about him. A lot of pages on Uncle Don. And so he's on the news hour and I think, you know, Uncle Don is now 86. Same age as Orson Bean. That's right. And I'm not dead yet. Well, you're not 43. No, I think I have protection. I'll tell you why in a minute. So Uncle Don's on the news hour and they have, so he's in New York in the studio.
14:03 And they had this woman from Georgetown University and I swear to God she must be a Russian asset because everything Uncle Don says, she's like, no, no, this is, this is nothing. This ain't no good. This is a step backwards. I missed this. I needed to see that. Did you tape any of it? It's a, it's online. It's in the show notes. 387.na show notes.com. Then Uncle Don let something slip, which I was like, huh? He's any and he fumbled for words. I'm like, maybe he wasn't supposed to say that or I don't know not what was it? Well, I'm gonna play it for you. So the so the clue here is that you know, everyone's saying Oh, this is great because we have the six-party talks. The six-party talks are Russia North Korea, South Korea Japan the United States and the Chinas and they're all saying it's about nuclear weapons and
14:53 Well, this is very interesting when you listen to what Uncle Don says about North Korea's nukes. North Korean statement. This is that woman, by the way, who I got hurt just because my Uncle Don, I'm like, stop. No, no, go away. You I don't like you. Uncle Don is good, which is quite different from the U.S. statement issued today on whether or not that even brings us back to where the six party talks stalled in October 2008. It does not specifically state plutonium which is the problem with the actual nuclear weapons they have today. And in fact Ambassador Gregg as we understand it the North Korean statement did mention uranium it didn't mention plutonium what's the significance of that? Well that's very significant because the nuclear weapons they have produced have been produced through plutonium not uranium. Oh! I'm like really that's significant why?
15:44 Well, because plutonium nuclear weapons, from what I've been able to, and I am not a nuclear physicist, they're lame. Plutonium nukes are instable, they're great for dirty bombs, but they're not really, they're like ladyfingers compared to a uranium-based nuclear weapon. Do you have any expertise in this field, John? No, not necessarily, but I've never heard this particular analysis before. I'll have to look into it. Well for him to say, hey, this is very significant because it's plutonium. It's not uranium. It's plutonium. And I guess a plutonium explosion is an implosion and it's very hard to... This is what I think the fat boy was. Was that Hiroshima? Fat boy or was that Nagasaki? One of the two. Yeah, okay.
16:37 And you know, it's very difficult and you can only basically blow up, you know, one city. You can't like nuke out a whole country. It's just not a good bomb from everything I can read. That's the gist of it. And so it's clear from what Ambassador Davies said that our goal is to get at denuclearization of North Korea. But these steps are in the right direction and I would suggest to Balbina and others who are so deeply skeptical that we stop looking backward to where we have been but let's look forward to where we can go. And what has been agreed to in Beijing sets a very clear path toward preliminary steps
17:18 that can lay the basis for significant negotiations on denuclearization in the future. But that's going to take time. It isn't going to happen immediately because there are decades of mistrust between our two countries that we have to overcome. So now Uncle Don was ambassador to South Korea amongst many other things. So he knows the region and I'm convinced he's obviously still, if not in the agencies, he's in the loop. So I send him an email. I say, Uncle Don, man, first of all, you look great. He looks like 60 and he doesn't look 86 at all. And I say, you know, I was great seeing what you had to say, but what up with that woman? I'm saying, you know, knowing what Gazprom's plans are with the pipeline, what was she, a Russian asset? So this morning I got an email back. Thanks, Adam.
18:07 Gee, I often think of you and Mickey there in Austin and how my Aunt Leah was on the faculty at UT. By the way, one of my best friends, Bobby Inman, what's his name? Inman? Yeah. Bobby Inman is in Austin. I'm like, Bobby Inman? Who's that? Hello, Bobby Ray Inman? Yeah, he's very famous. This guy was like deputy director of the CIA, NSA. So I don't know if Uncle Don's sending me a message or not. Like, you know, I think the message is find him, see cover. I don't know what it is, but he is like completely to go have a beer with the guy, which is exactly what I emailed back. Send me Bobby Ray's number. I'm going to go have a beer with him for sure. And so Bobby, Bobby Ray Inman, I mean, this guy is he's huge. I mean, when you look at his resume,
18:59 So he completely ignored my question, which I think means go talk to Bobby Ray and you might get some answers. Cool though, right? Yeah, well, you definitely can go have a little chat with Bobby Ray. Oh yeah, me and Bobby Ray are going to be best buds. So then I come across this YouTube video from Russia. And there's a... Well, you know, Inman was born in Texas. He's from Ronesboro. Oh yeah, and I think... So it makes sense that he moved back there. Oh yeah, yeah. And he ran a whole bunch of big companies later. He was an admiral in the Navy first. And then he retired. It's interesting. He started off as director of naval intelligence and he went to the DIA. Right. And then he became director of the National Security Agency. And then he went to the CIA. So this guy knows everything. He has massive credits. He's gonna be my drinking buddy.