Fools & Knaves

00:00 Well you haven't had anything bad happen, right? Right. Then the rock must be working. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. That's Sunday, December 18, 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 366. This is no agenda. I'm gonna get me a recorder Okay, so we can we can do that recorders are not expensive no and our slide whistles an expensive instrument is that what you're saying well the This one is not cheap. This is the the professional metal one Symphony orchestras no expense spared ladies and gentlemen on on the production of this show we have a symphony orchestra size slide whistle and

01:05 But you can get a cheap plastic one for about five bucks. Yeah, but that's no good. Now as we were saying just before we started the show I was listening to Fool on the Hill from the Beatles and it features a recorder and actually it's like wow, you know, they make such a great song with such a dumb instrument. I was thinking John, you know, he's so skilled on the slide whistle he could have been the fifth the fifth Beatle easily. Yeah, absolutely. Maybe you are the fifth Beatle, I don't know, it could be. I've, you know, it's been a while since I've seen you. So, in the morning to you Adam Curry and hello to all ships at sea and feet in the air and boots on the ground. Yeah, in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. Welcome to the best podcast in the universe and in the morning to all of our human resources.

01:50 of all ages, shapes, sizes, and creed and colors and religions who have showed up in the chatroom at noagendachat.com, noagendachat.net. Once again, we have a quorum. Exciting news here today as on the 25th of December, we have a surprise for all of you. What? We having a baby? No, we have a we I'll say we but you've actually done an incredible amount of work and put together Oh, right the infamous clip show that you've been working on for three years I've got all I have to do is try to listen to the whole thing. There's a couple repetitious things I got to get out of there I'm gonna do that today and then I've got a drop in a couple of I'm gonna get the one thing I haven't done. Mm-hmm

02:36 Which I'll do at the end because this is like over we overlay you know you got your basic Clip show then you overlay little things you insert Moments that that break it up and pace it a little bit and the one thing I have not done Which I need to do and you have to say you probably should send me a raw copy of it Is that there's probably about three moments within the entire thing which is about two hours long Wow? I'll be able to drop in douchebag. No So I haven't done that. Okay, I'll send you a douchebag. So I go through it and then I say oh jeez there's a spot and then I'll just insert a douchebag into it. Well we have the entire archive of all of our jingles available online. So you go to nashownotes.com and you click in. I think there's a thing that says jingles. If not I'll make sure I'll send you the link. It's there. It's there. So yeah so I you know knowing that the news

03:30 would be lame, nothing's happening. Even terrorists and douchebags take a break around this time of year. So there's just not a lot of news. I decided since everyone was all so crazy about the National Defense Authorization Act, big debates going on now, the House version, which is... So we had Senate version 1867. Now we have House version 1540. And I was very interested because I read the debate report and there's half of the people saying, well, you know, the president can still pick anybody up, call them an enemy, excuse me, a belligerent. It's like an unequal, what's the word exactly? An unequal belligerent. I'll have to look it up. I have it here.

04:24 and then call you an enemy combatant and then others would say no but it says right here it says this will have no effect on citizens of the United States of America and she's back and forth and back and forth. Step to will. Yeah of course well it comes down to legalese and you have to be a lawyer which it seems everybody is these days. Everybody is making making up rules and stuff in Washington are all lawyers so I figured I'd go and take a look at the exact language Of the bill that passed the house and then I said, you know what, screw it. It's only 908 pages. So why don't I just read through it and see if there's anything else funny in there? Because you know, what a perfect opportunity, right? If you and I were consulting anyone on the Hill, we'd say, hey man, they're all distracted over this like stupid thing, like picking up citizens. Who gives a crap about that? Let's slip something in. This is a great opportunity. We can put some cool stuff in here and no one will see. So you want to run through it real quick?

05:20 I am absolutely fascinated already because I know that the only reason would just to kind of deconstruct the show, the only reason you would bring this up in the first place, especially with this long intro you just gave, is because you found something. Well, there's a number of things. There's some just curious, some things that are like, oh, and some real big clues that are, I think, very important to us. First of all, this is like $660 billion of whose money is that again? Of squandered taxpayer money? Yeah, that's it. Of our dough. our dough that is going to be spent and they always say like oh if you don't vote for this you're not you know you don't support in the troops so only a hundred wait a minute the troops just left I will get into that later believe me a hundred and forty two billion is all that's really being spent on the troops which to me seems like what is that less than 20% no I still know it's 25 yeah it's a lot of money and no doubt about it

06:25 So and what's fascinating is to see all these, because that's where really the money goes, it's towards the bases. And let me tell you, man, Germany either has a lot to worry about or nothing to worry about. We're spending, I think, like $80 billion just on German bases alone. So right and that money where does that money end up going to contractors to build buildings and most of it ends up in Germany Of course, of course, so essentially we're giving Germany 80 billion dollars This is a country that is like leading the EU in an effort to destroy us and also the number one country in so far as a machine of commerce

07:07 Is concerned taking over the EU and we're giving them 80 billion dollars of our taxpayers money essentially give or take a couple billion Yeah, so you know and by the way Washington State is getting the lion's share of the base money a lot a lot of money Washington State well you guys must have some operations up there There's a bunch of weird, there's a lot of black helicopter operations up in Washington, I don't know why. They must have a naval, the Navy is getting a lot of money for Washington. Oh there's a big Navy submarine base. Oh yeah, they're doing underwater submarine bases. Like underwater docking stations and stuff. That can't be cheap.

07:49 I'm telling you, it's in here. I didn't even mark that one up. I was like, of course they're building underwater bases in Washington. Why not? Yeah, underwater, so they dock underwater. Yeah, it's cool. Here's some interesting things they came up with. Section 920B, Article 120B, rape and sexual assault of a child. Now this is the National Defense Authorization Act. This is really, there's a lot of like rules and regulation changes and repeal of reporting and stuff.

08:25 But this caught my eye. Rape of a child, any person subject to this chapter, this is if you rape a child, and obviously that's not, it's like, I don't know why we need to have this in the Defense Authorization Act, but okay. What? Yes. You sure you were reading the right bill? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So you'll be guilty of rape of a child if the child is If you commit a sexual act upon a child who has not attained the age of 12 years Is that really the limit in the in the military? So after 12, you're good to go. Yeah, I swear to God is it commits a sexual act upon a child who has not attained the age 12 years or Commits a sexual act upon a child who has attained the age 12 years by using force against any person blah blah blah blah but then it says later on

09:18 In a prosecution under this section, it needs not be proven that the accused knew that the other person engaging in the sexual act or lewd act had not attained the age of 16. So in a way they're saying it's 16, but really, you know, if the kid's over 12, it's okay. It's very, very strange. These... That's very, very strange that would be in there. How come this hasn't been brought up by anybody? Dude, I actually halfway through this, I passed out and I woke up. Mickey had to wake me up yesterday. He said, you still have 400 pages left. You're out. Yeah, this happens to me when sometimes I'm watching C-SPAN trying to find a clip like yesterday night. I'm just done. And then I wake up and say, oh my God, this is like a half hour into it. What the heck? Rewind, rewind. It is so boring. Some interesting provisions in here. Review to identify interference with national security global positioning system receivers by commercial communication services. Well, we know what that's about.

10:17 That's the was that lightning strike light beam. What is that lightsaber? What is that company called? Who's uh, yeah light squared light squared exactly. So there's a whole Yeah apparently What is it, the LTE? Yeah. That they're employing as steps all over GPS. So there's a whole... So they put that in the bill. Oh yeah, to determine if commercial communication services are causing or will cause widespread or harmful interference with national security global positioning system receivers. So yeah, short, forget about it, it's over. Absolutely over. Now here's some interesting data.

10:58 Non-governmental organizations and academic institutions, Secretary may authorize the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency to exchange or furnish mapping, charting, and geodetic data, supplies, and services relating to areas outside the United States to non-governmental organizations or an academic institution engaged in geospatial information research or production of such areas pursuant to an agreement for the production of exchange of such data. George Clooney! Exactly! George got his data. That's perfect. Absolutely. Just a side note, I guess there's going to be an API everyone can play with. The Ozone Widget Framework shall be released, which is a mechanism for internet publication of information for development of analysis tools and applications for the ozone. The Ozone Widget Framework.

11:51 Just a little fun thing to play with. And what struck me is that, you know, if you were talking about the internet and security, what would you call that general area if you were writing a bill like this? I wouldn't call it internet security. I'd call it something else. Internet protection. They call it cyberspace. Oh, they call it cyberspace. Which I think is like, hello 1980s calling. Well, not only that, but it's like from science fiction too. I mean, cyberspace. It's all cyberspace. Put that echo back on the show. Cyberspace. Then of course we know that the Pentagon has to be audited. So the audit readiness of financial statements of the Department of Defense.

12:40 Then they go section blah blah blah blah. Okay, they're going to amend the previous NDAA by inserting the following line, that a complete and validated full statement of the budget resources is ready by not later than September 30th, 2014 after validated as ready for audit by not later than September 30th, 2017. So they've moved the audit date. It was 2016, I believe. Uh, well, here they've changed it from 2014 to 2017. I thought it was, okay, I thought it was 2016 already. I can just tell you what I'm reading. So they moved it up to 2017. So in other words, we still won't know where the money's going. The taxpayer, the biggest line item, huge billions of dollars go into the sinkhole and we still don't know anything about how it's used or...

13:32 No, and we won't. And they can't seem to audit it until 2017. Which means these guys are already living in Paraguay. They're insane is what they are. They're insane. And all they'll do is next year they'll move it up to 19. It's never going to get audited, obviously. There's a five-year extension and modification of authority of Department of Defense to provide additional support for counter-drug activities of other governmental agencies and governments. So we are actually giving money to other countries.

14:08 I have here that moved up from 75 million to 100 million to counter drug operations in the government of Benin, Cap Verde, The Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Jamaica, Liberia, Mauritania, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, and Togo. I'm just giving them some money, which is always nice. You just take my money and we'll continue to support that for another five years Then we have the infamous section 1031 the detainee matters This is the affirmation of authority of the armed forces of the United States that detain covered persons pursuant to the authorization for use of military force Read with me John and just help me. I know you've been a lawyer for many years in general whenever they say in general It's like okay that bullshit right in general. What does that mean in general? Just kind of usually

15:07 Yeah, I guess usually be a better word Congress affirms that the authority of the president to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the authorization for use of military force as public law 107 40 includes the authority for the armed forces of the United States to detain covered persons as defined in subsection B and Pending disposition under the law of war. Covered persons. A covered person under this section is any person as follows. A person who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11th, 2001 or harbored those responsible for the attacks. Two. A person who was part of or substantially supported Al-Qaeda, the Taliban or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act. Get off my lawn!

15:55 or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces." Now that is the covered persons. And then, and that's 1031. What everyone's been talking about is 1032, which is about the custody. So there's two, this is the tricky part the way I see it. And there's also 1036. But yeah, everyone says, 1032 it says here, covered persons, the requirement of paragraph one shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031, Then it says, where is it? The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States. But that doesn't, that's only for covered persons. You know, this is where the law gets tricky and where I don't trust it. And I think I'm probably right in not trusting it.

16:50 First they say if you're belligerent and then we can call you a terrorist, but then everyone's arguing about the indefinite detention. But they can still pick you up and put a black bag over your head and get rid of you if they think you're belligerent and may have supported Al-Qaeda or anything else. Yeah, but they can do that now. Yes, that is unfortunately is absolutely true. Let me go to 1036, that's the procedures. And this is how they determine if you're belligerent. The procedures required with this section shall provide for the following in the case of any unprivileged... Oh, that is, unprivileged enemy belligerent. That's the word. Unprivileged enemy belligerent who will be held in long-term detention. A military judge shall preside at proceedings for the determination of status of an unprivileged enemy belligerent. What's a privileged enemy belligerent? CIA. Oh, okay, right.

17:47 So, yeah, exactly. So, you know, then there's a whole bunch of stuff that shows that Guantanamo Bay will not be shutting down because essentially we're going to be moving any, you know, there's a whole bunch of... That's in there? Oh yeah, no, it says, you know... Hold on a second, let me get this straight. Didn't Obama run on the promise? Yeah, I will close down Gitmo. Overt promise that the first thing he's gonna do when he gets... Don't you have that clip? The first thing he's gonna do when he gets in office is shut down Gitmo? Wasn't that like one of his main things that got everyone to vote for him? Because people who didn't like this whole Gitmo idea, they were voting for him specifically because of that and the fact he was gonna get us out of the war immediately? Let's see, I have a clip here in the Evergreens called Obama Promises.

18:35 i'll make our government open and transparent no anyone can ensure that our business is the people's best justice louise brandeis once said sunlight is the greatest disinfectant And as president, I'm going to make it impossible for congressmen or lobbyists to slip pork barrel projects or corporate welfare into laws when no one's looking. Because when I'm president, meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public, no more secrecy. That's a commitment I make to you as president. Well, let's just stop on that for a second because there's a little provision here. Section 1044, treatment under Freedom of Information Act of certain sensitive national security information. In general, the Secretary of Defense may exempt certain Department of Defense information from disclosure under section 552 of Title 5 United States Code upon a written determination that, A, the information is Department of Defense critical infrastructure security information

19:38 Or, the public interest in disclosure of such information does not outweigh the government's interest in withholding such information from the public. So let me get this straight. So, this will be the most transparent government. However, if the Secretary of Defense determines that the public interest in disclosure of such information requested does not outweigh the government's interest in withholding such information from the public, they won't disclose it. What crap is that? It's what it is. It's right there in this bill. It's amazing.

20:19 When there's a bill that ends up on my desk as president, you, the public, will have five days to look online. Oh, gee! That's never happened. I think they'd already passed it by the time this was released online. Find out what's in it before I sign it. Right. Okay, alright, no, that's good. We have a couple days before he signs it. So that you know what your government's doing. Yeah, we know. When there are meetings between lobbyists and a government agency, we'll put as many of those meetings as possible online. He didn't lie, as many as possible. For every American to watch.

20:57 When there's a tax bill being debated in Congress, you will know the names of the corporations that would benefit and how much money they would get. And we will put every corporate tax break and every pork barrel project online for every American to see. You will know who asked for them and you can decide whether your representative is actually representing you. Nah, so that doesn't have the Gitmo thing in there. These were good too. Let's just move on to the document because I got some ground to cover. Authority for assignment of civilian employees of the Department of Defense as advisors to foreign ministries of defense and international peace and security organizations. So we can basically send soldiers or civilians which is another word for spooks. Whenever you read civilian in the Pentagon, that's a spy.

21:44 So this is essentially an approval here to send spies to go work as advisors to foreign ministries of defense and international peace and security organizations Which is it's probably a good thing. It probably is a good thing These guys And here we go the study on the recruit. They will commission a study on the recruitment retention and development of cyberspace experts Ooh, no experts. Yeah, no, it's cyberspace experts. In this section, the term cyberspace operations personnel refers to members of the armed forces and civilian employees of the Department of Defense involved with the operations and maintenance of computer network connected to global information grid as well as the defense departments. CIA, that's another group as well as offensive, defensive and exploitation functions of such a network.

22:40 Hello. Oh, yeah, so they can go out and get Wow messed up up This Let's see no later than April 15th second by the way This is all marked up and in the show notes at three six six dot na show notes calm You know you can just in the PDF you can click ahead to all the pieces that I've highlighted for you So you can read it for yourself By April, the Secretary of Commerce shall submit to Congress a report setting forth the results of a comprehensive review of current restrictions on the resolution of electro-optical imagery collected from satellites that commercial companies may sell or disseminate. The report shall include such recommendations for legislative or administrative action." So apparently, and I'm just paraphrasing because I did read through this whole piece,

23:31 Current and anticipated deployments of satellites built in foreign countries are able to collect imagery at a resolution greater than 0.5 meters and They don't like that. They don't want them selling it to Google and being 0.5 meters. That's like a foot and a half Yeah, that's that's some good-ass resolution right there. Yeah. Yeah, at least when it says an address is gonna be the address Yeah, who needs a drone? Seriously. Oh, speaking of which, report on integration of unmanned aerial systems into the national, let me repeat, national airspace system. Here we go. It's in the bill? It's in the bill.

24:11 So this is requiring a report no later than 90 days after the enactment of the act that sets forth the following. One, a description and assessment of the rate of progress in integrating unmanned aircraft systems into the national airspace system. Did we not predict this, John? Oh yeah. Worse, too, an assessment of... It says worse in there? Yeah, worse. Hey, if you thought we're screwing them now, check this out. An assessment of the potential for one or more pilot program or programs on such integration at certain test ranges to increase that rate of progress. So they're stepping it up. They got to get the drones out of here. Yeah, there's going to be drones overhead.

25:03 The country's gonna be yeah, we're gonna be controlled completely droned Oh, and this was a very important one so that you know they there's a lot of things they change here I said so this is the section 1081 redesignation of psychological operations which is known as psyops psyops as Milit oh so so essentially in change the name they're gonna change the name in title 10 of the United States Code they list the departments that we have and one of them is psychological operations psyops this will be now changed

25:41 to, here it is, amending by striking psychological operations and inserting military information support operations. What? Yeah, so they've changed, here's what happened, they're like, man, everyone's talking about PSYOPs, they're so onto us, you know, what are we gonna do? What if those Blackwater guys do? Change the name! Yeah, let's just change the name! It won't be called, well, instead of PSYOPs, psychological operations, let's call it military information support systems. Operation, sorry, MISO. Military information support operations. This is the stuff, you know, if you don't read this then you know, you like military from whatever, you know, you wouldn't think about it, but that is now going to be the new word for psyops. You wouldn't get one. Yeah, that's a 10 point find. There's a couple more and me. So by the way, is a nice term because it refers to a very nice soup that you get in a Japanese restaurant. It's a very nice soup.

26:49 So the commanders have a little slush fund. It's the emergency response program. $400 million may be used by the Secretary of Defense to provide funds for the commanders emergency response program in Afghanistan. That's always handy. And this is interesting. Authority to accept contributions. What? Listen, this is how the drug money flows. I found it is right in the bill. The Secretary of Defense may accept cash contributions from any person, foreign government, or international organization for the purposes specified in subsection A, that's the one I just mentioned. Funds received by the Secretary may be credited to the operation and maintenance account from which the funds are made available to carry out the authority in subsection A and may be used for such purposes until expended in addition to the funds specified in that subsection.

27:43 Oh yeah, that's exactly what it was for. This is drug money. So basically anyone can go up to any commander in a theater of war and say, hey gringo, here's your cut, here's your money. Isn't that crazy? They're just legalizing it. All we did is take our cut. It was a donation. It's donating. Just click on the button. Isn't that amazing? It's so brazen. It's not brazen when nobody notices. They snuck it in and you found it and we just read it and you know, then nobody cares. Still nobody cares. I care. So all of a sudden it's a charity we're running here. I care. I really do care. It's not okay.

28:33 You want more? If it helps to lessen the impact on the American taxpayer, I think it's okay. Okay, right. So, you know, although it doesn't, you protect the poppies, here's your cut. And you can use that to like continue to protect the poppies or give some guns to somebody else, whatever you want to do with it. It's good. Some guns in Mexico, right? It's all good. Conditional extension of modification of authority to build the capacity of counterterrorism forces in Yemen. So even though we're not at war with them, we will be building a base in Yemen. It's about time. Global Security Contingency Fund amounts in the fund shall be available to either this is oh this is Hillary's provision 300 million dollars established on the books of the Treasury of the United States an account to be known as quote the Global Security Contingency Fund here's what she was fighting for this is her her kitty if you will the pussy's kitty

29:23 Amounts in the fund shall be available to either the Secretary of State or the Secretary of Defense, notwithstanding any other provision of law, to provide assistance to countries designated by the Secretary of State with the concurrence of the Secretary of Defense for purposes of this section as follows. So that is basically your Hillary's funny money. So she can go hand out to any foreign country or military forces maritime security, internal security, counterterrorism operations, as well as government agencies responsible such forces to conduct border maritime security, internal defense, counterterror operations, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's $300 million for Hillary. So I'm sure she's celebrating the holidays. She's got her dough. Just power through this. A couple other, oh, that's $300 million.

30:23 Authority to build the capacity of certain counter-terrorism forces of East African countries. So we can put these on the list. Djibouti. I don't even know where that is. Djibouti? Djibouti. Hey, look at that. How do you spell that? Look at the Djibouti on that bitch. They keep changing it. What's the... What's... How do you spell that? Delta Juliet India Bravo Oscar Uniform Tango India Djibouti. Frank Gibroni and his sister Djibouti. Ethiopia and Kenya, so we'll be building bases there. Also enhancing national military forces participating in the African Union mission in Somalia. So you can just put these on the list. Djibouti is this little, little bitty place that is south of Somalia.

31:16 And across is right across. Oh, we talked about these guys before. This is that little country that's dead. This is the you know, where the Somalia and the kind of pinches off the water. You know, wait a minute. Isn't this where Africom's headquarters are going to be in Djibouti? It's a possibility. Djibouti is a this is a phony baloney operation. It's a good name. Djibouti. I'm Frank Gibroni from Djibouti. Support of forces participating in operations to disarm the Lord's Resistance Army. 30 million bucks for that. I'm sorry, 35 million bucks. Good. That's good for the incredibly important guys. When you extend your altitude, transfer defense articles, provide defense... I don't know why I highlighted that one. Oh yes, Pakistan.

32:17 1.6 billion dollars to Pakistan for helping us out. I'm sorry. It was 1.6 We are striking that and inserting 1.75 billion dollars to Pakistan You know, you think the news would report on that one, you know War over money war over in Iraq Authority to support operations and activities of the Office of Security Cooperation in Iraq now, this is an interesting little office The Office of Security Cooperation. The Secretary may provide funds on this authority, $524 million for the war that is over. So I guess that indirectly also goes to Hillary's gang for safeguarding the embassy over there.

33:11 Then there's a report due on progress of the African Union in operationalizing the African Stand-by Force. Be on the lookout for those terms, the African Stand-by Force, whatever the hell that is. There's a whole long chapter about finding out about the manpads originating from Libya. It's like how many were there, who has them, where'd they go? So they know nothing about that. And it's funny because I was just reading in the news today that good old Hillary, I'm sorry, Lucifer Clippity-Clop Clinton is going to go visit Georgia, the Republic of Georgia, with that crazy Thai-eaten psychopath, Saakashvili, right? Yeah. Well, no wonder, because she's got to finalize the deal. We're going to be selling weapons to Georgia, defense cooperation with the Republic of Georgia, no later than 90 days, which coincides nicely with her trip.

34:09 After the date of the enactment of this act, the President shall develop and submit to Congressional defense to support the government of the Republic of Georgia in providing for the defense of its government, people, and sovereign territory consistent with the continuing commitment to the government of the Republic of Georgia, provide for the sale by the United States of defense articles and services in support of the efforts of the government." So, basically, they're not a member of NATO yet. Are they? Yeah. No, I don't know. I don't think so. But it's just an insult to the Russians, to the Russians. A huge insult. So we're not we're we are now allowed to sell. So Hillary, I guess, is going to do the deal. They're going to go just sell, sell. And and then Iran about the financial sector of Iran. There's a whole paragraph in here. Now, when you hear about these sanctions, you're like, oh, man, these sanctions are, you know, we're screwing Iran. Well, yeah. And no.

35:12 The way the sanctions are put together, first of all, that sanctions don't actually start until 180 days after the enactment of the of the act after the president signs it. But then it's really only about the following. For the purchasing and sale of petroleum and petroleum products, But then it also says that the president will continue to determine based on reports whether the price and supply of petroleum and petroleum products produced in countries other than Iran is sufficient to permit purchasers of petroleum and petroleum products from Iran to reduce significantly in volume their purchases from Iran. So it's all just a big, it's bull crap.

35:57 It's all game. Yeah, it's not even true. You know it's like well. You know we're gonna force some really hard sanctions on us. Yeah, it's totally just bookkeeping. Then there's a we you know we continue in Afghanistan. Oh yes a Few couple billion dollars here to include projects that facilitate private investment mining sector development industrial development and other projects determined by the Secretary of Defense with the concurrence of the Secretary of State Lucifer as Strengthening stability or providing strategic support to the counterinsurgency campaign in Afghanistan Please nigga now. You're really insulting me. I

36:37 All they're doing is they're just making it possible for commercial, you know, this is the economic hitman. They're coming over right now. Just go ahead, we're gonna support you, we're gonna support mining, we're gonna support everything. Go ahead. And here, I'll end it on this one. Availability of funds for the Transregional Web Initiative. Why is this in, why is all this stuff even in this bill? Here's your 18 million dollar website, John. The Transregional Web Initiative is a requirement for a range of website products and services to support the US Special Operations Command in the global war on terrorism. I'm reading the procurement. Can we just start a little web development company? The contractor shall develop, operate and maintain a minimum of six websites in the directed languages and conceptual approaches approved by the government.

37:38 They shall develop, operate and maintain websites tailored to influence foreign audiences per government approved concept of operations. We can do that. Oh yeah. Oh my goodness. And probably better. And that's going to be a huge contract. What is it? Is there any numbers attached to it? No, no, there's no number. Let me see if there's something, if there's a pay table, because you got to go look at the pay tables. Well, the money will be released as long as the program appropriately defines its target audience, is to be determined to be the most effective method to reach such target audience. I feel a slideshow pitch coming up, John. Is the most cost-effective means of reaching such audience and include measurement mechanisms to ensure such target audiences being reached. Dude, we got Google Analytics.

38:34 We can show, all right? We've got geo-targeting. We've ensured that if you're in the southern region of Afghanistan, you're going to get your local dialect and we'll serve up some banners to offset some of your cost. Exactly. Anyway, if you'd like to read all of the markup, it's in the show notes at 366.nashownotes.com and I hope you enjoyed this little section of the show because I am pretty confident there's no other place in the universe where you will receive any type of analysis of what has actually been passed. And please have a look down at the bottom of the document. Just look at the big numbers. You can see that there's a lot of money going into UAVs,

39:20 A lot of drone money. The ammo section is hilarious. There's just tons of great stuff to see where your money is going, which we don't actually have in the first place. Right. Well, it's borrowed money. And so it's actually the Chinese money that's going there. So maybe there's something to that. So I think we need to do what we should give you a round of applause. We don't have that clip. But I think we should thank some executive producers for helping you do that. Showing their love. Donation equals love. Donating is loving. There's some, and you curiously when you developed a research on that connection, you can discuss it, which we'll do maybe later, and it doesn't make any difference once that is established. Boom. Let's see, okay.

40:15 Let's start with Francine Hardaway. Oh, Francine. Damn Francine, sure. She's a, you know she's a venture capitalist. No I didn't, seriously? No. Yeah, I'm starting to do due diligence on our donor nights. Really? Just to make sure. Wait a minute, don't tell me she's taking customer funds and donating it to the show. Well, let's hope. Can't just imagine. So really, are you, you're like doing Intel. Oh, okay. Alright. Well, you know these producers of ours expect us to be thorough about everything. Yeah, you're being thorough, that's for sure.

40:56 She's in Phoenix, $365, senior human resource cleaning out the PayPal account per instructions. Which by the way is our instruction. It's our instruction indeed. Taking karma from my angel investments and startups so I can exit from some of them in time to enjoy the wealth. All right now you know this only lasts for a week so you better hurry up and see if you can dump that stuff. You've got karma. Oh that's very cool. I didn't know that. So she's an angel investor. Yeah, and she runs a fund of some sort. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's so cool. Well, thank you Dame Francine. Um, maybe it's an Arizona for the Arizona rich people. You know, the Arizona is a stronghold of retired rich people and mobsters. Guess which one Dame Francine is. Well, she must be retired rich people because she doesn't look or sound like a mobster.

41:50 You spoke to her? No, I've seen her. I've gone to her website and looked at her picture. I know what she looks like. Is she hot? She's a, she, she is totally hot. Okay, you go ahead with the next one. I'm gonna take a Alexander, uh, oh brother, Dimitri Yade. Dimitri Yade. That's it. Alexander Dimitri Yade in Oakland Gardens, New York, 33333. Thank you very much. Steven Witting in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, 32967. I have a letter from him because this came in over the transom. She's very cute. Steven Witting?

42:28 and then they have been friends and i think i'm sorry who steven wittig writes in the morning to you both and standing in the salt lake city airport with my arms held out to my side and s and a severely obese and irritated tsa agent sliding his hands along my genitals and i immediately think of you both this is maybe not a good thing but okay that for what you will as a lazy american i appreciate all the hours you spend watching c-span so i don't have to speaking of which i haven't heard that jingle in a while at which is not true now they got me thinking today and it to that got me thinking That to ensure the talent of the best podcast in the universe does it make sure it doesn't get outsourced to some foreign country You're already too close for comfort. I should stop being a douchebag and donate to the show hell Yeah, so in computing value for value have decided to donate three dollars and thirty three cents for every show I've downloaded netting a donation of three two nine six seven for the episodes thus far I've only listened to about half or by a third of them so afterwards I

43:27 I'll donate more. If I listen to the rest someday, I'll be sure to pay you based on the merit of their content. But I'm just consuming a lot of money. Well, we're rich. If you have time, my wife and I used up every last ounce of karma for our wedding day last year. And although nothing tragic has happened to us, yes, I'm feeling a bit off with the With what all these drones falling out of the sky and whatnot, anything could happen. So if you'd be so kind to add a cup of karma to his... Yeah, in fact I'm gonna do a special double shot for him. If you see something, say something. You've got karma. A little extra TSA karma for you. Then we have Jay Kramer in Minnesota Nuts.

44:13 Okay. Uh, two 55 55. He also has a letter. Thank you for the show about two 22 to two, two, two for the show. Three, three, three, three, three for a podcast license. You got to put them on the podcast license. I don't need karma. Life is just a life is just getting by good. Maybe this is like a poem everything is in lowercase and structured funny. I think it's for all our combat veterans day But they need it forever John you've done very well in the past, but just in case my last name has a silent a Kramer She is but it's pronounced. It looks like creamer, but it's cream so we're happy we're handing out some karma here Is that the just throw some out there? Yeah? Why did it soldiers yes? Hell? Yeah, you've got

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47:51 He's given us newtcanblowme, blow.me, I'm sorry, mittcanblow.me and perrycanblow.me. So those are all forwardings to noagendershow.com. So you say, hey, you should listen to the show, you know, and if you know the person is like anti-Newt Gingrich, you can just say, you can find it at newtcanblow.me. Thought it was kind of good. That's very creative. I like it. I like it too. It'll be good short-term and thanks to our Executive producers today damn frame Dame Francine Who was from Oakland Gardens? That's Alexander. Oh, yeah, Alexander. Yeah, yeah Dimitri adi Dimitri adi Dimitri adi Steven Whitting

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49:30 Alright, hey alright now that half the show is over. Hey now I hate taking up that much time on those bills, but I think it's valuable. I think it was interesting enough I mean it was it's you know it's tedious which is the problem unless there's clips and and and you could have dropped in a few sound effect bombs or I should have had the slide whistle going but the fact is it's very interesting and And this things all come back to bite us in the butt and we can always refer back. Well, we told you so I've discovered I have an ability to scroll through hundreds of pages and and my eyes so much It's like a neural networking thing. My eye just goes. Oops. Stop. What's that? And then you do you have a neck? It's funny that way it's like I let you do it, too I don't want to do

50:20 You're too busy sleeping on the job. I mean, it's like, these things are just, I look at them and it's just, oh my god, this is horrible. Yeah, but you know, it's like no one looks at, like not a single reporter looks at these things. No one, I don't think the people who vote on them look at these things. And the funny thing is if you actually even went deeper, you know, spent even more time, you'd probably find even more weird crap. Well, I know, it's a bottomless pit of weird crap. You know, I finally got the annex to the executive order. the changes to the... Oh right, that thing you've been looking for for a while. The courts-martial and I think, yeah, and I said, you know, this could be totally related to the Bradley Manning trial and here's, you know, so there's basically two things that are changed. You want me to do this now or do we want it? Yeah, do it, get it over with. I think we should talk about Manning as well. We've already lost him. Everyone's like, oh man, what are you talking about, Curry? I can't deal. The changes to section 4

51:19 The whole thing is about PedoBear. So essentially the president changed the courts-martial manual as to what you can be court-martialed for and they added child pornography. And I'm talking about serious stuff here. you know, about having child pornography in your possession, having it stored on your computer. And literally that is half of the, more than half of the annex. I would like to see how this is worded because that means that the executives of Google and Microsoft should be busted for storing child pornography on their computers. They're cached. Everything's cached. If it's online, it's cached. Yeah, but they're not in the military.

52:16 Oh, this refers only to the military? Yeah, this is the military courts martial law. How bad is that problem? Well, there must be something really bad. Now, there is a lot of Article 32 stuff in here, which is what Bradley Manning is likely to be charged with, but I couldn't really find... I mean, this is real legal stuff. And this is way, way beyond what I can actually parse. But then when you look at all the pedo bear stuff, It's like, wow, you know, it's just, you know, it's like if you have, if you even have this stuff on your hard drive, 10 years mandatory sentence. If you've produced it, thank you, darling, which can be, you know, production in any way, you know, even if you, if you have a picture and you copied it onto your drive, uh, 15 years.

53:05 This is the easiest way in the world to set someone up anybody anybody and then I and if you could this has got to be the You got some guy you just put some stuff on I mean for one thing you can have it on a disk and put it you know then use their machine or you can or you can drop in a Trojan and you can have the Trojan suck a bunch of porn and stick it on the hard drive. Yeah, this is a this is a methodology for setting people up to throw the Put him in jail and throw the key away. I mean it is literally the oldest the only reason you would do this because there's already laws that cover all this stuff. Yeah, but this is you know this is specific to the military. Let me just here I have something fishy about it.

53:47 Impeachment of evidence conviction of crime hold on a second I have it here here article 134 child pornography text of statute possessing receiving or viewing child pornography The accused knowingly wrongfully possessed received or viewed child pornography on the circumstance of the conduct of the accused was Possessing this is differences right possessing with intent to distribute etc Here is the important one. They also changed another word Character for truthfulness has been now changed to the word credibility. There's all these little minor things. Producing means creating or manufacturing as used in this paragraph refers to making child pornography that did not previously exist. Does not include reproducing or copying, oh in this particular paragraph.

54:37 Sexually explicit conduct means actual or simulated a sexual intercourse or sodomy including genital genital oral genital anal genital oral anal between persons of the same or opposite sex, bestiality, masturbation, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person. I mean so they're really serious about this. and then i hear this report how rampant is the problem well listen to this listen to the association that comes up in this news report what kind of precedent is that going to send it if we let government employees start saying well you know i don't think this should be classified i think this is trying to cover up a wrong i'm gonna leave this to wick wiki leak

55:17 I mean what a dangerous world we've become. What about Wikileaks? Could they face some criminal liability here? I think that's happened in the past in America. Well, let's look at all the recent cases we've had where the government's went after websites that have posted child pornography. You remember recently that whole hubbub about Perez Hilton and the perp. So I have a feeling, there's no reason for that by the way. How the hell do you go from Wikileaks to the government going after websites for child pornography? that's a jagged lawyer who's saying this so I think there is a you know going along with this Bradley Manning trial where you know there's now he's like well he had gender gender identity issues so they're already pushing it in that direction I have a feeling that they're gonna discover that he was weighing the child pornography or something yeah like that that's what it feels like to me it really does and by the way every single news report

56:13 Around the world that I can find has the same picture of Bradley Manning. Yeah, that same stupid picture Then we have reports eat and grin on his face. Then we have reports of Bradley Manning You know of the so-called trial and I have one here and they don't have any pictures they have drawings they have drawings and there's one picture one video that everyone is using and And you see the guy walking out, you know, he's like behind glass and you see him walking along. It's not the same guy. He looks nothing like the Bradley Manning in the picture. Nothing like him at all. And then we've got testimony. They have like people on the phone testifying in this case.

57:06 One guy from Italy, you know, and some other guy they're testifying against. And how does that work? Since when do we... I mean, this is a very important case. They've held this so-called guy, which I think is still fake, for 19 months. They can't get the witnesses to come to the courtroom to testify? They got to phone it in? That's weird, John. Yeah, the whole thing is very suspicious. And honestly, I'm just not buying it here. Now they're saying he had links to foreign agents. Oh, please. Oh, yeah. So, you know, oh, yeah, of course. Bradley Manning's gender identity comes up in testimony. A US Army special agent testifying by phone from Germany was asked by one of Manning's attorneys if he knew that the Army private had an alter ego with the name Brianna Manning. And then the other agent testified also by phone from Hawaii.

58:11 about searching Manning's living space and office in a storeroom at Ford operating base Hammer when he was stationed in Iraq. That's where they're going to find the child pornography pictures. I guarantee you this is exactly how it's going to go down and we'll never hear from this guy again if he was ever real in the first place. Completely disappeared but we'll have a lot of new rules boy I'll tell you that. A lot. And how can you have Like these child pornography laws, yet in the National Defense Authorization Act, you know, rape is classified if the kid is under 12. How does this work? This is confusing my puny brain. We'll never know. It's beyond us. It's beyond our ability to understand. Clearly. Take me out of this.

58:54 Alright Get me out of this Okay, what do we have here? I have a couple of what I want to say one thing I was going we're I'm gonna do this on a net on an upcoming show, but probably the Iowa vote will probably take it out of the news cycle. But so I decided that one of the things about Newt Gingrich that we that needs to be explored is this relationship you have with the second you know the wife that had cancer who's still alive I guess and then he dumped her and it was just a really sorry day in in the history of mankind the way this guy acted. so I told buzzkill jr. who's a really great searcher I said I want to get the definitive article on on gingrich being a douchebag and you sent your son to go find that yes he could find it good he's come back he came back with nothing saying it's all Google washed off the net oh no I found something okay why don't you read it no I have a clip

59:53 Okay, well the clip is not the same as the definitive piece because apparently there's a lot to this. It is if it's from C-SPAN. Hit it. Why have we not been hit since 9-11? Which is a good question. My first answer is I honestly don't know. I would have expected another attack and I am, I particularly thought, I was very very worried and talked to the administration when we had the sniper attacks. because the sniper attacks were psychologically so frightening to the average person because of their randomness. That I thought, I was amazed that the bad guys didn't figure out how to send 10 or 12 sniper teams. I think there are a couple things though that we tend not, this is by the way, one of the great tragedies of the Bush administration. The more successful they've been at intercepting and stopping bad guys,

1:00:50 the less proof there is that we're in danger. And therefore, the better they've done at making sure there isn't an attack, the easier it is to say, well, there was never going to be an attack anyway. And it's almost like they should every once in a while have allowed an attack to get through just to remind us. But I mean, think about it. Yeah, I heard this clip. What an a-hole. He's a total a-hole. This is not the clip that proves what I'm after. No, I know, but it shows he's a douche. And the thing is, it is a specious argument. This is the, oh well, you know, it's like, you know, I've got this rock which is keeping, is protecting us. Well, this rock is just an inanimate object. You say, well, you haven't had anything bad happen, right? Right. The rock must be working. Yeah, the rock, it's a pet rock. It's a... My rock, you know, you haven't had any, you know, this rock keeps you from getting a cold. National security rock. Have you had a cold? No, I haven't had a cold. The rock's working. The rock's not doing anything. The rock is good. The rock is good. The rock is working.

1:01:53 Next attention Eric the shill we need no agenda rocks and then and just lucky rock and it's just Because I'm lucky right just say the rock is working when you pick it up on the bottom. The rock is working Whatever is wrong you can say to your kids. How you feeling pretty good the rock is working kid don't mess with the rock ah So anyway, it would not be beyond me to believe that Newt Gingrich's lewd past has been Google-washed. That would not surprise me. So I want to recommend to anybody out there who's got some deep links

1:02:35 to do the real Newt Gingrich story that we can discuss on the show to send me the link because I know I'm gonna just do a crowdsourcing thing I can do it on and probably find it this way but good but I can't cuz I can't find it using Google because it's been Google wash Google does this in fact we've been slightly Google washed oh really if you go to no agenda let me just check to make sure but if you type in no agenda which gives us the first four pages of Google results we're still there but The number one hit is SeanHannity.com. So instead of NoAgendaShow.com or NoAgendaNation or anything, you have NoAgenda.MeVeo.com is second, but NoAgendaShow has disappeared. And there's no reason. Well, wait a minute. No, wait a minute, John. You're right. It says Sean Hannity, NoAgenda.MeVeo, MeVeo.com, Wikipedia, NoAgenda.Chat, Curry.com. Huh.

1:03:36 So noagendashow.com has been Google washed. Let me check page two. No. It's gone. Yeah. It's not like you can't find us, but it's like noagendashow. Oh, here it is. Finally. It's on page two, halfway down donations. Noagenda with Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak. noagendashow.com slash donations. That's where it comes up. Wow. But just not raw. It's not up there raw. noagendashow.com is not there by itself. But Sean Hannity.com being number one, I think that does show that a lot of people are searching for Sean Hannity.com and then wind up with us. I think you're right. That's got to be what it is. And then they click on this and then they go and you click on it goes to Noah Jendishow.com. Which you'd think that Google would be smart enough to figure out that Sean Hannity.com is bogus. Or bogative. Well I think what's happening is they're saying, oh these guys are trying to be tricky. Click.

1:04:32 You're gone, bitches. You don't exist no more. I don't know if that's true. I think it's whatever caused it. I'm not concerned at this point. We're in SEO jail. But we're in SEO jail. Okay, yeah. Well, that's Google for you. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Great system. So because of this sort of thing, I could not find the Newt Gingrich stuff. Let's not forget, co-conspirator with Hillary Clinton. Do you think she's pissed off? I don't know if you like being called Lucifer. Oh yeah, that probably doesn't help things. And that, I think she's okay with that. It's the ragging on her hair that she's pissed off about. Well, you know, somebody's got to tell her to get back to Paris. Quickly. And she knows we're right. That's why she's angry. That's why she's angry. They've noticed my hair sucks. I've got to get back to Andre in Paris.

1:05:31 I thought it was just hire the guy and put him on the Air Force plane with her. Oh, that was really funny. So the Obama's, of course, they got to go to Hawaii for their traditional American Christmas. And the president. Has Air Force One all gassed up and ready to go, but he had to stay behind you this really important speech, you know, it delayed the trip by what four hours or something so apparently Michelle Sasha and Tanequa Malika, I can't remember her whatever. Yeah, they went on a separate jet.

1:06:10 Oh, because they couldn't wait the four hours and they decided instead of going with dad that they'd waste the taxpayers money and fly over there by themselves four hours early? Is that what you're telling me? Yes, and this came up in the question time with Spokeswhole Carney. Now there's something very interesting I want you to listen carefully to this clip. And tell me what you think is odd and I'll explain it afterwards. But here's the question, here's his answer. Yeah, the First Lady's going to be leaving in a few hours for Hawaii. Obviously she isn't able to go with the President. But I wanted to ask you, isn't it quite an extravagance for people to go in two jets to Hawaii, particularly given the state of the economy, the state of the budget, and also given the directive that was just put out about limiting air travel by the administration?

1:06:57 Two things, Mike. First of all, I think you ought to check your sourcing on that. I think the original story was an interesting one. But the First Lady and their daughters will be traveling today as originally planned for their annual holiday trip to visit their family in the President's home state of Hawaii. As previous First Ladies have done, they will travel on a military aircraft. couldn't they wait and everybody go on one, so there's one jet instead of two? Because in the air force one is $185,000 an hour to operate and that's a long flight. Again as previous first ladies have done they will travel on a military aircraft as previous first ladies have done They will travel separate from the president. Okay, so he just answers the question a second time now What was interesting about this clip? Did you notice anything besides the sound effects? Uh-huh. So here's what happens and you've got to see this video. So the question is being asked is

1:07:53 And just as Carney's about to answer, you hear his computer, because he has a computer there on the lectern and it's right underneath the microphone. First you hear bling bling, which is a chat message, and then you hear his Blackberry go bling bling. And then he starts reading off the screen. He is reading his answer off the screen. So they've got people behind there listening to... Oh my God, this guy's bringing it, running an A-hole. And they type it in real quick, and you can hear Carney start to answer, and then he looks down, he's reading it off the screen. Listen to it again with this knowledge. First lady's gonna be leaving in a few hours for Hawaii. Obviously she isn't able to go with the president. Quick, quick, quick! Type in an answer! Tell him what to say! Tell him what to say! This is consistent with all previous first ladies! But I wanted to ask you, isn't it quite an extravagance?

1:08:40 for people to go in two jets to Hawaii, particularly given the state of the economy, the state of the... They're looking it up now, they're getting ready, they're typing it in. ...budget, and also given the directive that was just put out about limiting... Plenty of time to do that. ...air travel by the administration. Two things, Mike. First of all, I think you ought to check your sourcing on that. So that's just to win some time while he's looking down. I think the original story was... There's his BlackBerry. An interesting one, but the first lady and their daughters another story about the first lady and their daughters will be traveling today as originally planned for Their an annual holiday trip to visit their family in the president's home. So he's reading this. Yeah, listen Listen to this part first ladies have done they will travel on a military aircraft It's so funny so now we know you got now you can see this all the time is they've got a whole team of researchers there in the back and

1:09:37 prompting him and you can see him like looking down he's reading this off verbatim. So in other words there's a now instead of a press secretary who comes out and who knows what's going on and can answer questions he's essentially a mouthpiece for a group of researchers that are in the back or who they don't have to be in the back they'd be anywhere wherever they are there's a bunch of them because that's what if you're gonna have one you might as well have a team. Yep. This is like you know the people that well you know you're on some quiz show and you get the call your one friend. Yeah. And your one friend is sitting there with about 40 guys waiting for the call and they're all on Google going as fast as they can because you got 30 seconds. He had lots of time. There was like a minute during that question. They had plenty of time to and they're good. You know, I was like, I can just see the back room was like, what do we have on first ladies traveling on jets? Oh, it's consistent with all first ladies. Quick, push it through the blackberry. Oh, he said all first ladies. Yeah. So, so in other words, uh, let's see, um,

1:10:41 John Adams wife, before air travel she was traveling on Air Force planes. Was she traveling on Air Force planes? Hammerhand Lincoln traveled on Air Force One. I mean how many, you know this is new. This is not all first ladies. Recent first ladies maybe. He's talking about Bush, that's all. Why do they say Bush? Well, they couldn't corroborate that quick enough in the back room, in the boiler room. Well, this is pretty depressing. I just thought it was really interesting. So this guy should just quit. They should just ask the computer. You know, they should have Watson be the new press secretary. Yeah, there you go, Watson. IBM. Is that your final answer, Watson? Yes, it is. Watson can answer in the form of a question. Yes. What is all previous first ladies have traveled in this manner?

1:11:36 Wow good catch it was hilarious. I couldn't believe it at first like yeah, okay It's a it's a nasty question, but they're absolutely right It's a hundred eighty five thousand bucks an hour to fly Air Force One, but I heard bling bling I'm like and then the Blackberry right after I'm like and then that was pretty bad. You know they supposed to you would this has probably been going on for a while But he had used to have his sound turned down some Joker Guy will hold a computer, turn the sound back on. Way up, yeah, way up. And he probably forgot about his Blackberry. And so they made all this racket and now he's busted. Let's ask Cleverbot. Hold on, let's see if Cleverbot can do it. Why did the first lady travel on a separate... What is it? How do we spell separate? Separate. S-E-P-A-R-A-T-E.

1:12:30 R-A-T-E Jet. Let's see what Cleverbot says. The answer? Cleverbot has to think. I don't know why did the girl cut the handle off the broom. Okay. That's Siri, maybe she knows. Yes, I bet you. They're probably sitting there back there with Siri and Vlingo. No, I think Watson. I think your first hunch is right there. It's Watson doing all the business.

1:13:07 Well, excellent. Good job, Spokeshole Carney. Rock and roll. So we might as well talk about getting out of Iraq, and I do have the breaking news from Fox. Oh, hold on a second. Ladies and gentlemen, we got some breaking news, breaking news! We go over to Baghdad. Our correspondent John C. Dvorak is in Baghdad. John, what you got going on? Well, what I have is a Fox report called Out of Iraq for Good. Hit it. Crap. Oh, shh. Fine. This is a Fox News alert. I'm Marianne Rafferty in New York. Just moments ago, the final US troops left Iraq, crossing the border into Kuwait. And this is nearly nine years after US troops stormed the country in search of Saddam Hussein and his reputed weapons of mass destruction. That was back in March of 2003, and since then the war has cost nearly 4,500 American lives.

1:13:55 100,000 Iraqi lives and cost 800 billion US dollars. Bullshit! Let's go now to Fox News correspondent Greg Palcott who is streaming live from the Iraq-Kuwait border. Greg, quite a lot of celebration, a lot of clapping earlier as that last truck came over the border. What is going on there now? A momentous time and an A momentous time, Mary Anne, an historic time. Just in the past hour we've seen the last US troops leave Iraq to come into Kuwait. They were coming down from a base about five hours drive north of where we are right now and right to the end we are told militants in the region

1:14:33 still were proclaiming that they wanted to kill Americans. So it was a mission, it was a withdrawal that was under high security. But the camp is now closed down. All US troops, which at its peak was at 171,000 in Iraq, now all gone. Essentially, except for a residual force, there are no American forces left inside Iraq. You know what's interesting about this report, besides the fact that he mistimed his in on the satellite feed. Right. Although if you had kept talking it would have sounded like it was a tight connection. Which I thought was interesting. I'm wondering why, you know, if you do these long satellite feeds where you ask a question and you wait forever for the answer, if you could just have a keyword so the person could step in before you're actually done answering the question. Obviously if we were running Fox it would be much tighter. It would be a lot tighter. So were these vehicles that were coming out

1:15:27 I don't even know what, you know, they showed, remember we did that last thing some time back about the, you know, the dropping down to 50,000. And there was these crazy looking vehicles. This group of vehicles coming out were like things from the moon. I have never seen anything like these things. They were crazy looking. They're props. They had it left over from Mad Max. Man, they had some dynamite. I'm surprised they didn't have big walkers coming out, you know, from the Star Wars movie. Well, first of all, I have to call total Bullshit 800 billion try four trillion dollars. That's what that's what this war really cost not 800 billion, you know Yeah, if that's that's that's that I'm sure the hundred thousand is low to is but what's here's the here's the thing that struck me the world is upside down all of a sudden where we have Fox and of course this only

1:16:20 Well, I think today you'll find out as a couple more things coming up that not only is Fox run by the Democrats, but it's all the same. It's all run by exactly the same people. So now they've switched it up to mess with our minds because here's the Cafferty report from CNN who should be working for Fox. Well, if I don't know about you, but I'm a little tired of being treated like a mushroom by my government, you know, kept in the dark and fed fertilizer. President Obama is hailing the end of the Iraq war as though the enemy had signed the terms of surrender on the deck of the USS Missouri. Total hogwash. This is the same war Obama referred to as dumb nine years ago, but now it's all hail to the chief, marching bands and rah rah rah. Look what we did.

1:17:08 Well, what we did was invade a country that had done nothing to us, killed hundreds of thousands of their people as well as thousands of our own, bankrupted our treasury in the process, all in the search for weapons of mass destruction that a cynic might suggest we knew all along didn't exist in the first place. The Iraqi government told us a few months ago to get the hell out of their country. That's why we're leaving. We're being kicked out. Nothing noble about that. Before we were told to take a hike, though, we built the largest embassy in the world, along with more than 500 military bases at the height of the war, all at taxpayers' expense.

1:17:45 We had every intention of staying, occupying, no intention of going anywhere. See, there's all that oil over there. As it is, we will leave behind some 17,000 people at that embassy compound. Yes, some of them will be members of the State Department, Diplomatic Corps, but there'll also be contractors and intel folks who can keep an eye on things. You know, just in case those weapons of mass destruction turn up. or in case Iran tries to fill the power vacuum, which it will. What garbage! And the government has the gall to paint this as some sort of military triumph. This isn't the end of anything. This is the beginning of yet another long-term occupation, not unlike Japan and Korea and Germany. Here's the question then. Why, after all of these years, can't our government bring itself to tell us the truth about Iraq?

1:18:35 Go to CNN.com slash Cafferty file post a comment on my blog or go to our post on the Situation Room's Facebook page. Disgraceful. Go Jack! Disgraceful! It's disgraceful! Go Jack! That was pretty weird. Yeah, I wonder what that's all about. He must have been disinvited to something. Oh yeah, he probably didn't get his invitation to the White House Christmas party. To the caroling. That's probably right. Yeah. So it's upside down. Yeah, there's always some it's all upside down. Are you weird? Yeah, well, it's gonna do it's gonna be interesting to see how they deal with this upcoming Ron Paul Either winning or coming in second. In fact the New York Times I should go over the New York today's New York Times Oh good idea. Yeah, cuz I have a theory on what's going on with Ron Paul actually Okay. Well, let me just tell you what then this is the first time I've seen any such thing but I

1:19:38 on the front page of the Saturday paper which is very critical to the storylines of the weekend. You know, if you're gonna do this then we might as well... John's gonna harm the Sunday Times! Yeah, so... Paul's ground game in place since 08 gives him an edge. Yeah, this is the meme the ground game They're looking for the and it's on the front page so they're looking they're covering their ass here with this one because New York Times has not mentioned Paul as a player and he's they're probably part of a lot of the surveys and that you know showed him in third or fourth with a

1:20:21 phony baloney numbers so now they so they're covering their ass so that in other words so there's they're Fearful, and I believe with good reason that Paul's gonna win, Iowa And so now we're gonna be dealt. We're gonna. We're gonna have to deal with probably Months of well, Iowa wasn't that important. It wasn't really a vote. It was a caucus. It's a lot different He had he had people on the ground for four years building up the base And of course what they're not going to answer is how come he was always being shown in these phony baloney surveys as 8% or 2% or no percent or never mentioned. He wasn't talked up on any of his shows or anything like that. So how could he do so well? He will come in either first or second. There's no question in my mind about that. And you know if these people can get their act together about Gingrich, they can make it first very easily.

1:21:11 I looked at both papers for stuff on Syria. Well, wait, let's stay with Ron Paul for a second. Oh, okay. So, um... Yeah, that's right. You have a theory about what's going on. I do, I do. And it actually came to me this morning in the form of love from ahead. Of the bathroom break? Or was it in this shower? No, love from God, actually. So first of all, I think that we do have a lot of European listeners down under in Asia, in Africa, we've got people all over the globe listening. Not all of them have been privy to the beautiful exchange between Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann. during the debate which happened Thursday evening. This is the last debate before the Iowa caucus and on one hand it was really really awesome to see Ron Paul stand up and say hey you know what people are sick and tired of war. We're just sick of it and everyone was hooting and hollering and then he did something very

1:22:08 Right, but very, very dangerous is he called out the biggest lie we've seen, which all the media has propagated. We debunked immediately because we actually read the International Atomic Energy Association's report from the United Nations. And there was nothing in that report that said Iran was anywhere near making a nuclear bomb. All it said was, well, we've received all kinds of documents from other countries who say they are, but we couldn't find anything. Right. We read the document. Right, John, that's what we do. So you don't have to. Did we read that or not? Yeah, Paul's dead on on this but nobody wants to talk about the fact that this is a sham. We also had some clips in the show's past from some of these spook meetings that they show on C-SPAN where the people talk about what's really going on which was Iran was looking at making a bomb during the Iraq war which was years ago, decades ago.

1:23:07 and they gave up on the idea because it's just not There's nothing they can do with this bomb once they get it. They just get blown out. They get blown to smithereens if they used it. Yeah. Or if they have it, they're just risking all kinds of problems. And which Ron Paul in one of these speech exchanges mentioned, and I don't know if it's the one with Bachman or not, but he did mention that, that all the stuff that we're getting, and we've discussed this on this show, when you have that crazy Ahmadinejad going on and on about one thing or another, that the translation is rather dubious that we're getting fed. He didn't mention that. It might as well be like the one that's on, it was on one of the other exchanges. Yeah it was, it was another. Well the point being the media took this lie and prop, I mean you and I forget about it. People who listen to this show forget about it because we already know, we read the document together. You know this is what we do. It's not that hard. You know I do speak English. I'm a disc jockey but I can read it and it's a conclusion. We couldn't find anything but you know other people say it is so

1:24:05 But there was nothing in that report that said, but the media took this, politicians took this, and he did something very dangerous because when you call out Michelle Bachmann for that lie, you're calling out all of the media for lying. So I want to play that exchange. It's a couple minutes, but it's good for people who have not heard it because it was absolutely history-making piece of television. It's important that we just listen to this. He's calling her and the entire Western media establishment out for liars because there was nothing in their report. All you have to do is read it. Without a shadow of a doubt that Iran will take a nuclear weapon. They will use it. Without a shadow of a doubt. To wipe our ally Israel off the face of the map and

1:24:50 and they've stated they will use it against the United States of America. Look no further than the Iranian constitution which states unequivocally... Do they even have a constitution? They probably do. I think they do. Their mission is to extend jihad across the world and eventually to set up a worldwide caliphate. We would be fools and knaves to ignore their purpose and their plan. Knaves? What's a knave? You know, it's like an idiot. Fools and knaves? How do you spell that? K-N-A-V-E-S. Fools and knaves. Great show title. Fools and knaves. Alright

1:25:39 Obviously I would like to see a lot less nuclear weapons. I don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon. I would like to reduce them because there would be less chance of war. But to declare war on 1.2 billion Muslims and say all Muslims are the same, this is dangerous talk. Yeah, there are some radicals, but they don't come here to kill us because we're free and prosperous. Do they go to Switzerland and Sweden? I mean, that's absurd. If you think that is the reason, we have no chance of winning this. They come here and they explicitly explain it to us. The CIA has explained it to us. It said they come here and they want to do us harm because we're bombing them. What is the whole world about the drone being in Iran? And we're begging and pleading, and how are we going to start a war to get this drone back? Why were we flying the drone over Iran? Why do we have to bomb so many countries? Why are we in?

1:26:30 I have 900 bases in 130 countries and we're totally bankrupt. How are you going to rebuild the military when we have no money? How are we going to take care of the people? So, I think this wild goal to have another war in the name of defense is the dangerous thing. The danger is really us overreacting. And we need a strong national defense and we need to only go to war with a declaration of war and just carelessly flouting it and starting... And he's looking at her now and he's looking angry. ... these wars so often. Speaker Gingrich, is Congressman Paul...

1:27:08 when he says something. Can I respond to that? Can I respond? And the problem would be the greatest underreaction in world history if we have an avowed madman who uses that nuclear weapon to wipe nations off the face of the earth. And we have an IAEA report that just recently came out that said literally Iran is within just months. It did not! It did not! You lying sack you douchebag get you lying you lying of being able to obtain that weapon. Nothing could be more dangerous than the comments that we just heard. There is no UN report that said that. It's totally wrong on what you just said. That is not true. They produced... He's... What a gentleman. That is not true. If I were there, I would have lost it. I would have said, listen you psychopathic piece of shit.

1:28:06 Of course, that pretty much would blow my chances in Iowa, but that's how I would have responded. If we agree with that, the United States people could be at risk of our national security. She took my time, so I'd like to finish. If she thinks we live in a dangerous world, she ought to think back when I was drafted in 1962 with the nuclear missiles in Cuba. And Kennedy calls Khrushchev and talks to him and talks him out of this and we don't have a nuclear exchange. And you're trying to dramatize this, that we have to go and treat Iran like we've treated Iraq and kill a million Iraqis and 8,000-some Americans have died since we've gone to war. You cannot solve these problems with war. You can solve the problems if we follow our Constitution and go to war.

1:29:02 when we declare the war, go in and win them and get them over with instead of this endless fighting and this endless attitude that we have an enemy all around the world. So, uh... Can I mention something else since we're talking about her? Of course, of course. I just searched the entire Islamic Republic of Iran constitution. There is absolutely nothing about a caliphate or anything else within this document. She is full of shit. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So what happens... She should be ashamed of herself. She's a good Christian woman.

1:29:39 Yeah. I mean, she's an out and out liar. Yeah, oh yeah, she's totally... I mean, I was... I'm like liar, liar, liar! She should be totally ashamed of herself. If anyone even votes for her or even thinks of her as a candidate now, they should be ashamed of themselves for not doing the research to figure out that this woman is full of crap. She's a psycho. She is totally psycho. She looks like a psycho. She's a psycho. So now here's the interesting thing that happens, and this is where I'm going. Now all of a sudden, the NBC empire kicks into gear, and they are just like loving Ron Paul. He shows up on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, which still matters. By the way, with Joe Rogan following him, which was great for the Ron Paul movement because Joe Rogan came out with a Ron Paul sweatshirt, and it was fantastic. And Joe Rogan has a huge audience as well.

1:30:34 and Ron Paul is killing it. Jay's handing him softballs, you know, it's beautiful. Which he does well. Oh yeah, but I mean he's really handing him, it's just like, here take this one, whack, out of the park, whack, out of the park, one after another. And then Ron Paul, he gets the chance to say this, he totally nails this. How about Newt Gingrich? He maybe should run for Speaker of the House again. Michelle Bachman? She doesn't like Muslims. She hates Muslims. She wants to go get them. This is, by the way, I don't know if anyone writes for him or the guy is just a genius because what a perfect two-punch joke. Wow, okay. Well, that's not good. John Huntsman. John Huntsman seems like a reasonable man to me.

1:31:21 but he can't seem to get any traction. No, and he is. He's a nice person and he's a good diplomat. He knows what diplomacy is all about and he's a thoughtful person. Get ready for the callback. And Rick Santorum, I never see him talk about it. It seems like to him, gay people, oh my God, that's the end of the world. He doesn't seem to talk about anything else. I mean, does he? Gay people and Muslims. Yeah, that's it. Boom! That's genius, man. That's like a callback to the previous... It's fantastic. Then we get... What's his name? Schultz from MSNBC. Ed Schultz. Yeah, and he comes out and he does something very interesting. He is singing the praises of Ron Paul and plays a medley of Fox clips where they're slamming Ron Paul. But the people on a certain cable news channel, they don't want Republicans to think that Ron Paul has a chance at all. This is what Fox News viewers heard about Ron Paul all week long.

1:32:21 There is not rock solid support for anybody except perhaps Ron Paul who does get his 15-21 sign. If Ron Paul wins here, what then? Well... The Ron Paul people are not going to like my saying this but to a certain degree it will discredit the Iowa caucuses. I think right now, anybody other than Ron Paul could beat Obama. And Ron Paul, to me, is just a complete distraction. I absolutely, positively guarantee you that if Ron Paul is the Republican nominee, Barack Obama is the next president. Right. He's not going to be the nominee.

1:33:01 Right so then Schultz goes into this whole thing now, and I should way I want to mention since you met had Cavuto on there Cavuto was on the Fox with them It was interesting to watch this debate because you had two people that were interesting the most interesting was Megan Kelly who was Who needs to eat? What is wrong with that girl? Well she was, but she was glowering at Gingrich. And she, I mean the evil eye, I mean she hated, she hates Gingrich. She went after him. But she needs to eat now, because you know TV makes you look like you've got 10-20 pounds on you.

1:33:37 She is a stick. I think she's sick. Well, she might be, but she sure would look good if her face was nicely made. No, no. No, she did not look good. Whatever the case was, she was glowering at Gingrich. She knows about this Gingrich story to an extreme. That's why I want to get the Gingrich story and bring it out on the show. Meanwhile, wait, Cavuto hates Ron Paul, and when he asked him questions, every time he did, he rolled his eyes and he threw his head in the air. It was really, really bad. So here's what's going on. And we can use this to our advantage because I'm about to do like some kind of video to support Ron Paul. I mean, I do have an agenda in this case. I have an agenda like I want to have a freaking world left over. I believe that all the media, Fox, CNN, the whole NBC empire are using Ron Paul as a pawn to get Mitt Romney elected as the GOP nominee. And the McLaughlin group this morning

1:34:40 completely laid it out. begin richwood then get his first opportunity to win in south carolina and even if he won that he might not get the nomination this would be dynamite john because ron paul would get enormous national attention he would rise in new hampshire not to the point where he could be promenade but he would wipe out newt ginrich there i think the strategic asset of mit romney right now is ron paul and i'm sure a lot of romney rights or go ron go

1:35:27 I agree with this theory. This was what Huckabee was using, the same method in the last election to make sure that McCain got the nomination. Let's listen to LMO. Which is by the way, the reason that I stick to my guns, that nominee is going to be Romney. I just can't get it out of my mouth because I just, I don't want, you know, it's a karma thing. You know, I want Ron Paul to win and I want him to become president. So I just can't, I can't, you know. I'm all for it. Alright, so let's listen to Eleanor who is the, who of course I've deemed as like someone's mom you don't like. She is the town idiot.

1:36:03 I don't think it's Ron Paul's intention, but he is serving the Republican establishment that really wants to slow or stop Newt Gingrich. If Ron Paul wins in Iowa, everybody will say, isn't that nice, but he's not going to be the nominee. There are two things you can say about Ron Paul, though. He's consistent and he's principled. And once you understand those principles, you understand how he can be for legalizing marijuana and for not doing everything possible to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. He believes in virtually no government. He would he would dismantle the current government by 80%. He is a libertarian. What about the country? So she's 80%? She's an idiot. Please. Yeah, it's like, you know, it's

1:36:51 Yeah, isolationist, you know all these words crop up. Here's another little clip from this. It was a very interesting show. I've just clipped it down for you. because she's a good liar. Had a very strong performance in the debate over the weekend. Strong performance of lying. And she has an organization, she's on a bus tour visiting all 99 counties. Oh well if you're on a bus tour then. The best people in her organization quit long since they got sick of her. You can go if you don't want Romney and you're wary of him.

1:37:30 It's good to be said about Newt Gingrich though, he delivered a really interesting campaign about a lot of ideas like increasing the health budget so we can solve Alzheimer's, space colonies... Hey, wait a minute! Moon bases! Wait a minute, all of a sudden I'm interested in this Gingrich. Does he want to build moon bases? Yeah! Space colonies? Yeah, moon bases! Yeah, that's good. Go Newt! Go new to the moon! Some things sound bizarre, but the guy really does think outside the box. Screw you, Eleanor. Let's talk about the polling in Iowa. The polling, the current polling in Iowa. The most recent poll I've seen is by Rasmussen on December the 13th. Okay? Of 750 likely voters, Romney leads by three points. Paul is in third place.

1:38:17 What do you think of that? If that happens, okay, that's going to be pretty much the end of the Republican nomination fight because I think if Romney wins in Iowa, he's going to win in New Hampshire, he's going to have enough momentum to carry him through. Is that the best diagnostic we have? No, no, 750 people you can't really tell. John Romney wins. But three weeks away. Hey, John, John, if Ron Paul wins, Romney wins. If Romney wins, Romney wins. But if Newt wins, Romney's got problems. Meanwhile the Des Moines Register has come out and endorsed Mitt Romney. Of course the Des Moines Register is owned by Gannett and you know I'm sure that Bain Capital has placed some strategic investment. The whole thing is rigged people and you're not in on the game. It's rigged. So anyway it is nice that Ron Paul is getting, you know, if we can motivate enough people to go and actually vote

1:39:10 Then, you know, then we could pull it off. And so it's a it's a dangerous game they're playing, I think, very because, you know, this is not Huckabee. This is Ron Paul. Huckabee, of course, just, you know, just stands for nothing except the hamburger. But Ron Paul stands for something. So if they're gonna use the same strategy and try and use him to get their guy in, it could backfire. It could. It would be funny if it did. Yeah, oh man. Be more material for us. Hey, you know, we might get invited to the White House then. Actually, we would. Yeah, I think we would. Or you would. No, I'd bring you along.

1:39:47 Well, yeah, it would be what happens mean, but can you imagine just showing up at the White House? You can either bring Mickey or you can bring this this other stone. No, I'm bringing up what? That's what they're gonna tell you. No, no way. I'm bringing you, Miss Mickey, I'm bringing Mimi, Eric the Shill, and Buzzkill Jr. And I'm bringing Gitmo Slave and Mr. Oil. The Honorable Mr. Oil! The Honorable Gitmo Slave!

1:40:26 What a party that would be we all be drinking apple cider yeah a girl can dream So, what else we got here? So I was watching, you know, there's a show that's on CNBC, sometimes on CNBCW, which I don't know why it hasn't just won every, and I recommend it to people and maybe our entertainment networks have put it on there as a recommended show. It's on all the time. It's called...

1:41:08 American Greed. Oh yes, I've seen that for sure. It has got some of the best stories and it goes... Why it hasn't won numerous Emmys is beyond me because it's absolutely fantastic. There's actually only two shows that CNBC has on after hours. It's either American Greed... No, it's three shows. It's either American Greed, it's another marijuana story or it's about hookers. That's the only three things they play. Right? Yeah, that's pretty close. So they had a thing on Bextra, which I thought was interesting because the teasers and everything. I had a lot of clips but I ended up with two clips I'm going to play.

1:41:46 So you remember Bextra? No. This all took place during our show and I don't remember much about it. The American Greed brought most of it out. It's a Pfizer product that was taken off the market and then they were fined. It took almost a decade to get rid of this stuff. But just listen to the Bextra 1 clip and tell me that this isn't some compelling television. By early March 2003, attorney Erica Kelton has started compiling a mountain of evidence for a civil lawsuit on behalf of the whistleblowers. You had the FDA's denial, you had a marketing scheme, we also had evidence of a nationwide fraud scheme. If you were to put together the dream off-label case, this pretty much would be it. When American Greed returns...

1:42:39 Scientists link Bextra to a potentially fatal skin disease. Not only is it not as good at solving your pain, but it might actually lead your skin to fall off. Oh yeah, now I remember. Yeah, sure. Yeah, I remember the skin falling. So this is not good to have your skin fall off. I remember that. It's like having your heart fall out. Your penis like, clunk. So it's like, so I'm watching this and I'm realizing that this was so covered up as a nationwide story that when they finally brought out how much money that Pfizer had to pay in penalties and fines. 2.3 billion, right? Yeah! And so play clip two and they could put it in perspective. Pharmaceutical powerhouse is ready to capitulate.

1:43:30 Pharmacia pleads guilty to a criminal count of introduction into interstate commerce of a misbranded drug. Pfizer has agreed to pay 2.3 billion dollars. Pfizer gets hit with a staggering total of 2.3 billion. One billion in civil fines and 1.3 billion in criminal fines for its subsidiary, Pharmacia. Pfizer's criminal fines are larger than NRA, Worldcom, larger than any other case in United States history. Yeah, but they support the president, so shut up. Pretty much. I just found the whole thing disgusting. And it just was, it was essentially, like they said, the biggest fine in the history of the country. And it was essentially covered up by the media. I mean, there was a, you know, the New York Times ran a story on it and that guy was on there. And that's, and that was buried in here and there. It wasn't like,

1:44:23 Nobody picked it up. I mean they didn't want to pick it up because Pfizer is huge Pfizer now is Pfizer monstrous, but they they be there miss a 10 billion dollar company, but they've Well actually the revenue is a billion dollars in profit. Yeah, but they own Searle they own Park Davis They own up John they own Warner Lambert. They own Wyatt. They own green. They own Pharmacia They have all these companies is a it's a massive conglomerate that just can step all over anybody and they're you know it was just like 2.3 billion, tough. Nobody is thrown in jail. It's a criminal fine, why is there jail time involved in this? Yeah, because only a couple people died. And this goes on with one company after another. I mean one product after another with these guys. Do you know who they don't own? No, who don't they own? Us. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda.

1:45:25 Yet anyway, Robert Pinder in Lovettsville, Virginia, $113.13. I want to thank him with a note. He just donated $113.113. I need to call myself out as a douchebag. because I don't donate and support the show I do whenever I can no I'm a douchebag because my son Bobby and I listen to the Sunday news live together new our show live together on his birthday November 13th he turned 13 he was born on Friday the 13th and his ice hockey number is 13 and I didn't ask for a birthday shout out what kind of a dad am I oh my goodness

1:44:23 Nobody picked it up. I mean they didn't want to pick it up because Pfizer is huge Pfizer now is Pfizer monstrous, but they they be there miss a 10 billion dollar company, but they've Well actually the revenue is a billion dollars in profit. Yeah, but they own Searle they own Park Davis They own up John they own Warner Lambert. They own Wyatt. They own green. They own Pharmacia They have all these companies is a it's a massive conglomerate that just can step all over anybody and they're you know it was just like 2.3 billion, tough. Nobody is thrown in jail. It's a criminal fine, why is there jail time involved in this? Yeah, because only a couple people died. And this goes on with one company after another. I mean one product after another with these guys. Do you know who they don't own? No, who don't they own? Us. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda.

1:45:25 Yet anyway, Robert Pinder in Lovettsville, Virginia, $113.13. I want to thank him with a note. He just donated $113.113. I need to call myself out as a douchebag. because I don't donate and support the show I do whenever I can no I'm a douchebag because my son Bobby and I listen to the Sunday news live together new our show live together on his birthday November 13th he turned 13 he was born on Friday the 13th and his ice hockey number is 13 and I didn't ask for a birthday shout out what kind of a dad am I oh my goodness

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1:57:01 No nights, we got no no we haven't had nights in a couple weeks. No. Well, this is what happens You know people forget us. It's like when you when people should be thinking of of those in need and those less fortunate in these times No, no No, that's one that we get forgotten. Typically. I've got two little interesting tidbits here one is thank goodness The Gardasil train rolls on down under. Where have you heard this before, department? From the Australian press. All teenage boys should be vaccinated against sexually transmitted disease that causes some forms of cancer under an extension of a scheme now available to girls.

1:57:45 The federal government's expert panel has recommended, yes, the Pharmaceutical Benefits Advisory Committee has proposed Gardasil vaccinations available already to all girls to protect against cervical cancer should be administered to boys to prevent throat and anus cancers triggered by the human papomelona virus. That's right. You don't want it because you know how you get that throat cancer, boys. You know how that happens. You don't want that throat cancer. And so good on you there pharmaceutical industry. The likelihood of getting throat cancer from smoking is much larger. By a lot. And by the way, there was an interesting story in the New York Times saying that they're going to ban smoking in public housing in New York. Oh yeah. How's that going to work? You're going to ban it in your own house. Now here was a great hit job.

1:58:34 You know, it is the season of course when you know gets cold and then the pharmaceutical. This is this by the way is the if you want to know what the germ is of my crack pottery as a very young child I always thought to myself isn't it interesting how I have a cold or a sore throat and I see all these commercials on television with medicine against it. How do they always time that so perfectly? And of course, flu season now is because they released it into the air. Of course, that's how that's that. I always thought that I said, you know, if I was right, is this right? Is this is you actually believe that? And that's what we as a kid and this is where you came up with. Yes, you're suspicious about everything. Yes, this mentality. This was a fundamental thought of mine as a child. I always wonder, I said, who was from stopping them for just releasing these germs into the air and then selling the medicine.

1:59:25 So, of course, whoever them are. Well, you remember we had that. What was that? What was the stuff called, John? I'm talking two, three years ago. The. The like organic stuff or whatever that got pulled off the market. All right, Ic-Ic-Ic-Inatia. No, no, not Ic-Inatia. But Ic-Inatia, remember that one? That was one of them. Yeah, but it was a brand. It was a brand of non... Oh, I know, Vi-Vi-It's, uh, I actually, uh, I can tell you what it is because I have an empty box of it. What was it called? And it was, and the stuff really worked. If you felt something come on,

2:00:00 You run out and Pilus actually would take this because it contains Zycam. Thank you. It was a zinc product. Yeah, don't you remember those guys got screwed? Oh yeah, they got totally screwed because of the spray. You know if you spray it in your nose and it went back too far you'd end up with a brain hemorrhage. They had some bogus reason they made him take the one that worked the best and then they had these swabs. You had to take it off. Stick those up your nose and it didn't work. So that was of course their competitors at work obviously. So one of the oldest ways in mankind to soothe yourself during the cold season

2:00:40 is to gargle or snort salt water, right? It was a methodology I've heard of. I never heard of snorting it. Well, you want to flush your sinuses, essentially. From the UK press, a sinus flushing device, which is essentially, it looks like a ceramic pitcher, they call that a sinus flushing device, used to relieve colds and allergies has been linked to deadly brain-eating amoeba. Louisiana's state health department issued a warning about neti pots, which look like mini watering cans that are used by pouring salty water through one's nostril. It follows two recent deaths of 51 year old woman and a 20 year old man from the brain-eating amoeba.

2:01:33 What's the amoeba doing in the salt water to begin with? Are they saying that there's a bunch of amoebas in the British water system? Is that what you're telling us? Louisiana water. Louisiana. I thought this was England. No, it's a British report. Oh. Yeah. It is thought the amoeba entered their brain when they used the devices. Both victims are thought to have used tap water instead of distilled or sterilized water as recommended by the manufacturer. So the water in Louisiana is filled with amoebas, is that what they're saying? No, it's filled with brain-eating amoebas. Brain-eating amoebas? Not any old amoeba. No, no, it's the brain-eating amoeba. A brain-eating amoeba. I love the PR world, don't you? The PR world is just great.

2:02:22 Anyway, it was bound to happen and we've been tracking it. Department of Justice has now released their report, released Friday, December 16th, 2011. Department of Justice examines the impact of bullying in schools. Oh, yeah. Wait, before we leave the brain-eating amoeba story. this is actually is called the it's it's called the uh... see what is house pronounced it has a word yet and that you'll era for larry also knows the brain eating amoeba is a free living excavated form of protest typically found in warm bodies of fresh water such as lakes ponds rivers and hot springs is also fun and so on their warm water discharges of industrial plants and uncoordinated swimming pools in a me boyd or temporary flatulate stage

2:03:11 There's no evidence of this organism living in ocean water. It belongs to a group, which means the saltwater would probably kill it. It belongs to a group called Percolazoa or Heterobocea, although not a true amoeba. The organism is often referred to as an amoeba for convenience. It's not really an amoeba. What is it then? Well, it's some sort of a flagella. It's a little bacterial thing with little, with legs, kind of little things that move it along. Described a disease but it flies in 1965 the work on the amoeba provided how protozoa can affect it's a protozoa live effective both free environment and in a human host it can get in living you I don't know I'm gonna have to read more about this thing now currently you can get it so I'm looking at this article about the brain eating amoeba written by Claire Bates

2:03:58 So I'm looking at other articles by Claire Bates forget a warm cup of cocoa drinking cherry juice twice a day will give you 39 minutes of extra rest boy. This is she's just a PR agent isn't she? Obviously. Our daughter died from fatal blood clot just hours after doctor sent her home with antibiotics, say grieving parents. So that's a hit job on some antibiotics. Flu jab gave our six year old son narcolepsy. Boy slept for up to 19 hours a day after reaction to vaccine. Well, of course, that actually happened. My how you've grown world's smallest baby saved by same doctor 15 years apart. What an idiot. She's a total medical shill.

2:04:39 Yeah, well that's what you do when you're writing that kind of thing. Stopping smoking doesn't make you more stressed, says successful quitters. Oh wow. Anyway, you want to hear the Department of Justice, who, Department of Justice, these are the people who make up laws. They did. They're the ones who enforce laws, they don't make them up. Right, they force, I'm sorry, they enforce laws, but apparently they do studies and they're very concerned about bullying in school. Oh, they have to be. Would you like to hear an excerpt from the report? I'm on pins and needles. Bullying is a complex social and emotional problem impacting children in schools. In extreme cases, victims face shooting, physical assaults and other harassment that may cause them to turn to suicide. Boy, bullying sure has a... If you get shot... Yeah. This is not bullying, this is assault. No, of course it's not. But this is what's so cool.

2:05:42 That's it? Well no, there's a lot more. I mean, parents in schools across the country worry about the devastating harm bullying can cause and we share this concern for our nation's children. This is the acting administrator of the Department of Justice Division that did this study. Yeah, I'm with you on this one. It's just a freedom of speech attack. So I got a couple of clips here that might change the mood a little bit. Okay, first if you want something funny. Yeah, sure Kimmel did his thing he does this about once every two or three months called unnecessary censorship where if you just kind of bleep stuff, you know in the well and Really one of these again there is I think it's but I'm telling you what I'm not gonna play it Let's play people complain. No, let's play it set it up. That's it. Anyway, they just beeped stuff and it has its moments of humor. I

2:06:38 censorship but tonight we're going beyond the week to look back at a whole year of unintentional filth and here it is this year in unnecessary censorship 2011 I've told leaders of both parties that they must come up with a fair compromise in the next few days that can pass both houses of Congress. And a c***** that I can s*****. A deep sea diver from here in Southern California says he wants to f***** the body of Osama bin Laden. I said if she can f***** that d*** and call that sexual harassment, fine. balls I didn't really even think about it we're too busy and choking each other I'm from Colorado so I know that prison and pretty good dicks I gotta tell you right now I want to give you the biggest you ever got

2:07:37 You realize that you're f***ed up about Paul Revere, don't you? There's nothing like flying cross-country with a hot dog in your a**. 735, alley. Recently, my partner and I have opened the city's premier blowj** bar and vanity lounge. What are you gonna do for us this evening? We are going to f*** each other. Pretty nice d***s, huh? Very large. Well, Donner, where's the new member of the family? After all, if he's going to f*** my d*** someday, he'd better get to know me. Ho ho ho ho ho! And finally, make sure you f*** the party before you leave and follow up with a handf***. No one goes over my bridge unless you s*** my d***. Don't worry Red Rooster, we can s*** his d***. Well, you help us s*** the Grumpy Old Troll's d*** bridge.

2:08:39 So, um, I was watching a bunch of stuff they had on C-SPAN. They had Merkel being translated, talking to the, to the Bundes, you know, to her own people. And I've come to the conclusion that she's actually clinically insane. The Bundes people? Did you see this thing, by the way? But I like how you say it, the Bundes people. The Bundes people. That's her government. Yeah, the Bundes people. So, she is either deluded. Oh, you think? Or she's completely insane and she doesn't know what's up ahead. There is nobody that would agree with what she says. I have a clip, it's not too long, but it's just part of an hour-long speech she gave where everything in the EU is just great. We have a huge consensus to pursue the reforms and the latest data that we have from Portugal are quite encouraging in terms of the deficit.

2:09:37 In Greece, they are working on a bipartisan way to fulfill their duty to strengthen their finances. Italy, a few days ago, has taken huge reforms and they have strengthened their objective to have a balanced budget by 2013. And I've talked with the future Prime Minister of Spain and he assured me again that in Spain they are going to pursue the reforms that were planned in the last government. Even the members that are not yet members of the Euro have made huge efforts on their side in order to contribute to this new structure.

2:10:22 Let's not forget that it is the citizens who are going to have to make huge efforts. We are asking a lot for them. They do that so that their countries and the Eurozone in general will be more stable. And they deserve all our thanks and respect. Is that I was just like my it was just a what is this woman on the same planet? This is very interesting you bring this up I have a clip that I I didn't know if I wanted to play it or not because there's some length to it But I think this may be appropriate because we've we've been talking about how crazy these people are You know Michelle Bachmann. Yes, totally a hair Angela Merkel

2:11:10 There's this guy, and the full video is long but I have a link to it in the show notes at 366.nashownotes.com. And he is down on Occupy Wall Street and he's talking about Occupy the Psychopaths. And he has a book called Political... He didn't write it, but it's a book apparently that has been suppressed for 50 years. And now finally is available in print called Political Ponerology. You ever heard of Ponerology? No. I actually didn't look it up. Let me see what Ponerology means. Consult a book of knowledge. Yes, indeed we have to do that. Consult a book of knowledge. And it's P-O-N-E-R-O-L-O-G-Y. The Science of Evil. And it's written by a guy named Andrew

2:12:10 Lobavski Lobo Loba says ski. I guess a Polish. Oh, but Suski is Gabi Suski was ze WSK is Lucy Loba Suski and I'll just play this and when you've heard enough of you tell me when to stop but he's being interviewed and they have some dramatic music behind him, of course But it is very interesting. I cannot wait to I've already Procured a copy. I cannot wait to read this because essentially he's saying I They are insane. They are psychopaths and this is not new. We just need to know how to recognize it so we can fight it. So basically the reason I come down here every so often is I try to spread information about psychopathy and I think it has an overarching impact on why people are down here camping out. Are you hearing the music only in the left channel? My speakers are in such a position where I'm when I'm doing the show that I don't know what channels if there's a channel issue.

2:13:08 Hold on a second. Let me see if I can mono eyes this it's fine. No. No, it's not fine. It's like to you It's like completely no, it's completely wrong. Okay. Well then mono it yeah, I'm trying to find a way to mono that hole is a button and Unfortunately, there's no button here. Oh, well, okay. We'll just have to live with it then. Let's and why the financial industry and the government really doesn't care about the people anymore. These people... They're about 1-5% of the population and they have no concept of empathy, remorse, guilt, conscience. They're just not biologically capable of it. And they've shown this in MRI studies and there's been a lot of actual hard science that proves the point that they're totally different than normal humans. There's also been a lot of research done

2:14:01 by this one guy, Andrew Lewiszewski in Poland, who shows how they are able to infect and co-opt large groups of people, governments, and religious institutions. That's why I brought this book, because he talks all about it, and he shows scientifically how it happens each step of the way. And I feel that these people in the financial industries especially, they're able to rape and pillage resources from the people without having any concept of how it affects others because they can't conceptualize that. It's just not within their range of capabilities.

2:14:44 And when we see institutions like the Catholic Church and how they handle pedophilia, for example, it's another instance of that type of consciousness, remorseless being infecting and taking over a large group and effectively distorting what the original purpose of the institution was supposed to be. And these people they've probably been with us since humanity evolved We've never really had any scientific understanding of them or conceptualization of them. Okay, that's probably where our ideas of vampires come from vampires

2:15:21 So, that's bullcrap because the books Snakes in Suits and other books about these psychopaths that are running corporations and the sociopaths that are running a lot of large businesses is not new to anybody. So he's making it sound as though this guy's discovered something that no one's ever picked up on, but he may be early on it. But is that a book you're recommending, Snakes in Suits? Yeah, Snakes in Suits is quite good. Hold on, there's actually two books by the same guy. Snakes in Suits is quite good and I don't have them handy so I can't tell you what the other one is, but it's something similar. If you look it up on Amazon, you see the other book, which is probably even better. Okay. But I do believe that... You do believe?

2:16:09 Fact of the matter is that these people are psychopaths. Yeah, and I think Merkel's obviously one of them Merkel Sarkozy for sure totally psychopath David Cameron's got to be a psychopath yeah, I think our president is too dumb to be a psychopath I don't think you can wife might be do she oh man. I have a clip from her oh People keep sending me clips of her. Every day there's a new clip. Yes, here's a little one. You come on up. You cursed brat! Look what you've done! Melty! Melty! Every day there's a new clip. Yeah, yeah, that's her. That's our first lady, ladies and gentlemen.

2:17:02 On a side note, I do have another clip before we wrap. It's from, I was watching, actually I got a couple of things. I was watching free speech and Link TV a lot. And Link TV is interesting because this guy who's on there, he's an investigative reporter, his name eludes me at the moment, but he came up with, they were blasting PBS calling it the petroleum broadcasting system. Oh, that's good. I like that. That was quite, quite creative because you know, it's always, it's Chevron. It seems to pay for everything. BP, BP also pays for stuff. BP, in fact, they do have a BP commercial. This is the Gulf bull crap ad that BP is running on every, everyone that'll take this ad they're running at the very end it says BP and all you have to do is listen to the commercial. This is not the thing I was leading to, but I might as well get this commercial out of the way. This is, you know,

2:17:56 you know how great it is in the Gulf and this is the whole commercial I only had a small clip of it before but this is this is just total bullcrap. This was the Gulf's best tourism season in years. All because so many people came to Louisiana. They came to see us in Florida. Make that Alabama. Make that Mississippi. The best part of the Gulf is wherever you choose and now's a great time to discover it. This year millions of people did. We set all kinds of records. Next year we're out to do even better. So come Louisiana, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi. We can't wait to see you. Brought to you by BP and all of us who call the Gulf home. Someone in the chat room also said pharmaceutical broadcasting system would also fit well. And before you get into your point, very important to note that when you're watching PBS, our national public broadcasting system in the United States,

2:18:50 They have ads by GE by Pfizer by By the oil companies that is not to advertise a product to you there is no product they're selling they just saying you know We well we bring good things to life or whatever that is to ensure the power they have over over the reporting on PBS. That is, hey, you running some nasty stuff about us, boy, so we have to pull our advertising dollars. That's how it works. That is the system. And it works well. They have a much bigger budget than we do. Yeah, you think? So I'm watching this thing on Free Speech TV called End Colon Civ. It's a really loose documentary about

2:19:38 It's just that I don't even know what it's about. You can look it up and try to figure out what it's about. If you watch it, you can't figure it out. But there was one part of it that I thought was interesting, which was they're talking about essentially Out of the blue, they bring out what seems to be the second stage of the Occupy movement. It's like, we did the first stage, we were passive, we went out of our way not to be violent, we did all these crazy things to make sure that we could show how evil the system was and you can see it by the bug spraying episode at UC Davis.

2:20:13 There's a second stage which is now the violent stage which is going to be in which is now going to show up next. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out but if you play revolutionaries part two this is just some casual comments that certain people were making that is in this movie that is that the left is listening to. Obviously that persuasion hasn't worked and persuasion is not going to work. We want to be Successful then we have to look at what resistance movements in the past have done and what they've learned Who is this guy talking? Can I can I use console? They just have a bunch of these these these like experts were in a row yakking about this, but it was the message more I'll shut up. I want to listen and kind of the different phases that they've gone through as they've tried to assert themselves and try to be successful and

2:21:02 When I say organized political resistance, I mean that we need to face power head on. Once you name power, you will find that power is sociopathic, that the people in charge will do whatever it takes to shut you up. The thing about when you enter into a period of social conflict, what you don't want is people promoting non-violence because that's going to disarm the people. It's going to disarm the people in the face of an aggressive enemy and in the face of hard social conditions. You want them to have a stronger fighting spirit because without a fighting spirit you lack the will to resist.

2:21:42 The smartest thing the Nazis did was they made it so that at every step of the way it was in the Jews' rational best interest to not resist. Would you rather get an ID card or do you want to resist and possibly get killed? Do you want to move to a ghetto or do you want to resist and possibly get killed? Do you want to get on a cattle car or do you want to resist and possibly get killed? Do you want to take a shower or do you want to resist and possibly get killed? At every step of the way it was in their rational self-interest to not resist. But I'll tell you something very important. Now I'm conflicted about this.

2:22:40 This, by the way, I wanted to play just so our listeners who are on top of everything can now see where this is going next. Oh yeah. What's your conflict? Con-frict. Con-frict. Well, I'm confricted because I don't... I'd have to... I want to see this thing now because I'm not sure if it's propaganda or if it's... Oh, it's propaganda. Well, you know how you get the propagandas, you hear... You know, would you rather get on the train or take the plane? You tell me. Don't disarm the people. Wait, let's try this one. I'm conflicted by all this, John. When someone talks of- when someone plays the Hitler card, it's always very difficult, particularly when they have the very, very depressing music in the background.

2:23:36 And I just don't feel good anymore about life. I think it's time to stand up against them. You know what I mean? It's like... Yeah, no, well, the movie is called N-Civ. End colon SCIV and it's on nciv.com is a website that has it you can watch the whole thing it's on YouTube it's around and they showed it on the free speech TV and it is a it's new and it's something of a manifesto I get or maybe it's not that new but because I think it showed up in the last part of last year but it's going around. How do you spell that again? After Occupy is over. I want to put it in the show notes how do you spell it again? Endciv.com. Okay.

2:24:20 And it's now going around, this has become a meme opportunity and the messaging in there is like it's code and I suspect that there's gonna be some interesting stuff that falls out from this and everyone that listens to our show and I encourage them to continue donating and helping us. Give me that website again? Endciv.com. Oh, C-I-V dot com. I just want to put that in the show notes. Oh wow. So anyway, it's just a heads up. You know, you can take it or leave it. I would, of the opinion, should avoid these conflicts. But this will be fun to watch. I think it'd be good for our good material. We'll get some good material out of it. We'll get to watch the psychopaths go after, you know, common citizens to be

2:25:11 It won't be fun, but it won't be entertaining actually either. It'll just be kind of depressing. But we're on top of it. It's the end of times really. We're on top of it. Let me just see who owns this. Let's see, NCIV. It's registered through GoDaddy, Franklin Lopez, Submedia. Lopez is the director of the movie. Okay. And he doesn't have a wiki page, so I figure he's, I don't know who he is. It looks good. Looks like it's professionally done. Very slick, which bothers me. Yeah. Is there anything about, let me see, Paul, oh, Paul Watson. Oh, okay. Paul Watson is an Alex Jones guy. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, that does make sense, doesn't it? Well, that makes sense for a couple of things. One is the professional quality of it. His quality is usually pretty good.

2:26:02 But I'm thinking a little Cointelpro here is in play. Yeah, I'm not liking that too much. No, I don't. There's something creepy about the whole thing, but like I said, it's just a heads up. I was reading the Ulsterman report. He has the Washington Insider and the Wall Street Insider, and the Wall Street Insider And I happen to think that these guys are real and they of course have their own agenda and their own messaging but they're talking about the guy Leo Girard who was the big powerhouse behind all of this. And Leo Girard is the president, I think he's like the most powerful guy in all the unions but I think he's the president of the United Steelworkers Union. And what's his name again? Leo Girard. G-I-R-A-R-D? G-E-R-D.

2:26:49 Gerard G-E-R-A-D I think Leo Gerard and he looks like a total Chicago mobster, but that this guy is he's he's a guy that was pushing the Employer was it the employee? How was it the thing that they held back the FAA bill for? Yeah, the the union vote Employee union vote oh that thing it's called I forgot what it's called That's where you you force people to show their hand when they vote yeah, and even if they don't show up you have a union so yeah, but The I can't remember the name of that. What is the name somebody in this in the chat room knows? Yeah, it's the the equal vote something or other someone had a better name than that, but anyway the

2:27:42 The point behind the Wall Street Insider is that that is the course, you know, we know the unions have all this. Employee Free Choice Act. Thank you very much, Enumerate. Employee free choice act yeah, which is no free choice no that the end of course Obama's way into supporting that even when he was running for president That this is where all the power is coming from and of course we know the Occupy movement has been co-opted by the unions immediately yeah, and And that we have to keep a real sharp eye on this guy that Trump is way below him apparently I don't know. Yeah, it's like

2:28:18 That's a real conspiracy theory, but I'm thinking there's definitely something to it. There's a lot of like, whoa, really? So, that's a good one, John. I'll watch that this afternoon. N-Civ, I like that. Just on a parting note here, something very interesting which got no play at all. Do you remember the marine that got decorated with the Medal of Honor by the president, Dakota Meyer. This is the guy who then blew the whistle on his current employer and then they said he said, oh, he's drunken insane. Remember that? Yeah, we talked about this a little while ago. Right. Well, it gets better. Now, the Washington Post, obviously a co-opted news service, duh, comes out with this. Apparently, there's a problem with his medal. Crucial parts

2:29:17 that the Marine Corps publicized and Obama described are untrue, unsubstantiated or exaggerated. Now they're going to take away his Medal of Honor. They're saying that it was a lie, he didn't deserve the Medal of Honor. So Dakota Meyer filed a lawsuit against his former employee, defense contractor BAE Systems, which is Airbus. alleged in the company is probably the American version we have a Airbus subsidiary Georgia somewhere alleging the company is superior they're punished him for opposing it a weapon sale to Pakistan. Meyers suing defense contraband systems OASYS Inc. says he ridiculed

2:29:55 that says he ridiculed his medal of honor, sure he did, called him mentally unstable and suggested he had a drinking problem. Right. Now they say he didn't even deserve the medal of honor. You know, the medal of honor is not given out casually. There's a lot of research that goes into the Medal of Honor. It's not like, you know, oh, here's a guy, let's just give him the Medal of Honor. That's not the way it works. So this is bull. Of course it's bull. It's a total two to the head hit job. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. Yeah, it's totally disgusting. You don't take away somebody's Medal of Honor because they're a whistleblower, essentially. That's exactly what they do, my friend.

2:30:40 It's exactly what they do. Say it's not true, Mr. Adam. Say it's not true, Mr. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have to say it's so. Then just a couple things that I'm just following for y'all. By the way, the guy also has a Purple Heart Navy Commendation Medal, Navy Achievement Medal, and a Combat Action Medal. Clearly he's insane. He's insane and drunk. God, I hate these psychopaths. Ex-Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bosses charged with fraud, so there's your patsies. They'll go down. X Auto czar Ratner remember him. Yeah. Yeah, he came out in a really recent book and he says well looks like we're gonna lose about 14 billion dollars on that GM Financing we did not such a good idea. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna lose 14 billion working billion. Yeah

2:31:35 And he also said the $19.4 billion the government put into GM before the 2009 bankruptcy has definitely lost money. So what is that? $34? Wait a minute, this doesn't make any sense. We were told they paid it all back in full. That's what Obama said. Yeah, it's the truth. It's the truth. Obama said they paid it back in full. Yeah, we made money on the deal. It's the truth. Net euro short positions soar to all-time record implying fair value of the euro at $1.20. Still high. Oh no, it's way too high, but it's been dipping below the magical 130 mark, so keep an eye on that. It's really worth about 95 cents to a buck or five. I'm with you on the 80. I think that's much closer to reality. It's been 80, and when it was 80 everything was fine. Everybody was happy. Yeah, well we'll get back there.

2:32:30 And then tied into Fast and Furious, now, oh man, there's some good stuff here. This is from a separate Freedom of Information Act lawsuit brought against the Department of Justice by Salt Lake City Attorney Jesse Trentadue. Remember the name because he'll be dead soon. He now is in possession of documents that say the following. The Oklahoma City bombing had aspects of being an FBI sting operation that went out of control. Eric Holder had authorized the FBI to provide explosives to Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh, then lost track of both the explosives and their targets.

2:33:14 McVeigh went on to detonate some of the explosives outside the federal building, an act that was designed to help anti-terrorism legislation pass Congress, of course. After the bombing, when the FBI learned the location of the explosives, Holder reportedly sent emails to FBI agents ordering them to recover the explosives before they could be found by some other branch of government. So this is... What? Yeah. Where did this story crop up? Let me find the American Free Press. Let me see. I don't know what that is. American Free Press. Oh, yeah. AFP. I don't know. It says that they're a FOIA document, so that would be emails, I guess.

2:34:00 Shortly after the bombing, Kenneth Trenton Dew, that's the guy who requested the documents, a government informant, was murdered. Oh, Kenneth, that's his brother, was murdered in his prison cell, I guess. Whoa. His family has been pursuing legal action against the federal government ever since in 2001 in a bid to avoid a full release of documents. The Federal Bureau of Prisons paid a settlement of $1.1 million to several members of Trenton Jew's family, but his brother refused to drop the investigation, filed an FOIA lawsuit for the missing documents. That suit has been ongoing in Salt Lake City Federal Courthouse. So we've got to follow this. And producers of the KnowAgenda News Network, knowagendanewsnetwork.com, anything you can find on this, keep posting that. And of course, this is a part of our service to you along with the show twice a week is KnowAgenda News Network. You can add to that your own RSS feed. The instructions are quite clear. Go to addfeed.knowagendanewsnetwork.com and it'll start showing up automatically. So that's where we get a lot of our great information from our producers.

2:35:04 And then we have that crazy thing I pulled off your blog. Department of Homeland Security promo video about using cash. Yeah. Should I play that? Yeah. It's kind of funny. Terrorists and criminals do their best to cover their tracks. This may include paying in cash or using false identification. Hang on a second. Let me call you back. I have this guest who wants to stay for a few weeks and wants to pay in advance in cash. Cash? No, cash is money last time I checked. What's the problem? Did you ask him for a credit card? Yeah, I did. He said he doesn't have one. He doesn't use them. No credit cards? How about an ID? He gave me one. It just doesn't feel right.

2:35:52 Well, everyone's normal until they check into a hotel. Problem? I guess it's not a problem, it's just... Weird. Okay, we have everything checked out then. That's for you. And I'll... If your interaction with a patron feels odd, if that person appears nervous or anxious, refuses to show ID, if the ID seems to be altered, or if the guest insists on paying with cash for sums that are customarily charged and refuses to show a credit card, alert your manager or security personnel.

2:36:28 This is suspicious behavior. And I have to agree with that public service announcement. I think anyone who is involved in cash transactions is more than likely a terrorist. We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. Punchline yeah finishing this show in an upbeat note So we will be doing a show on Thursday, yeah Yeah, it'll be our last show until the next Thursday. We're gonna take Christmas off with the clip show. Yeah, well that's not really taking off because... It's not taking off, in fact I haven't finished the clip show yet and I gotta put the douchebag clips in there. I'm still working on it but it'll be done for Christmas and it'll be a great thing to listen to. It'll be just funny. It's great to huddle around the Christmas tree and grab your eggnog and... And listen to endless clips. Endless!

2:37:26 But it's clips of us talking, isn't it? Or what is it? No, no, these are all the clips that we use and they're juxtaposed in such a way that it's quite funny. Ah, you created a script. So you have like Lucifer saying, uh, human rights and then, uh... We came we saw he died and stuff like that. I don't have that one cuz these are I didn't use any clips from this year These are all old clips, but you'll see you know it's just an hour of pure entertainment you get two hours get reminded of bed bugs and Remember I remember it was though I was listening to the clip shown this remember the last it was like not this July but the July before they were that the North Koreans were gonna blow up Hawaii

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