Episode 284 · Sunday, 6 March 2011

Study says... Duh!

Global military maneuvers in Libya collide with domestic fiscal scandals as the West prepares for a new regime change while gold prices trigger a states-rights currency revolt.

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About this episode

Western military intervention in Libya intensifies as reports confirm the capture of a Dutch Marine helicopter crew and a British SAS unit operating near rebel lines. While official channels label these personnel as military advisors, the presence of heavy weaponry among the opposition suggests a coordinated regime change operation. This shift in the North African conflict coincides with a media narrative pivot toward civil war and the potential use of chemical weapons.

Domestic policy faces similar scrutiny as Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius defends claims of double-counting five hundred billion dollars in Medicare cuts to fund the Affordable Care Act. Simultaneously, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano faces congressional questioning over the Domestic Nuclear Detection Office and a GAO report highlighting critical vulnerabilities in bioterrorism response. In the private sector, gold prices hit fourteen hundred and thirty dollars per ounce, prompting states like Tennessee and Virginia to explore gold-backed alternate currencies to hedge against hyperinflation.

Cultural oddities round out the report, including the failure of Charlie Sheen's live Ustream debut and the hijacking of the ITM hashtag by Justin Bieber fans. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the suspicious frequency of the number thirty-three in economic headlines and the sudden failure of two NASA climate satellites. The episode concludes with a knightly ceremony for high-level donors Robert Wiltshire and Vernon White.


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CHAPTER 01 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 284 Introduction, ITM Hashtag Co-opted by Bieber

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 284 from their respective locations in California. They discuss the "ITM" (In The Morning) hashtag trending on social media, noting it has been co-opted by Justin Bieber fans. The hosts jokingly attribute this hijacking to CIA interference intended to suppress the show's growing popularity.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· episode 284· itm hashtag· justin bieber· cia

00:00 Bradley Manning does not exist. I just don't believe it. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, March 6, 2011, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 284. This is no agenda. Coming to you live from Curry's Corner here at the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center giving the nation west, the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. And sitting on the hill here in Northern Silicon Valley where it's drizzling, sprinkling, I don't know what it's doing but I don't like it. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning!

00:35 And in the morning to you, Joe. In the morning to you. And in the morning to all ships at sea. And the boots on the ground. And all those other folks who are... All those other things that you like to go on about. I didn't do it last time. Hey, everyone in the chat room, good... good... good... in the morning to you. Everyone who is charged up and ready to go. Fine human resources worth 9.1 million dollars. Exactly the way the government loves you at noagendastream.com. We do it live Thursday and Sunday mornings. Early morning service. So you told me off the air that Bieber has stolen the ITM meme. It's not necessarily Bieber, it's a Bieber thing. It's like teenagers, it's like in teenage memory. I don't know, something weird. ITM? Yeah, we had that ITM hashtag and all of a sudden it's like trending. We were trending. I'm like, oh, we're trending! And then it turns out that it's like some Bieber thing.

CHAPTER 02 / 42 Discussion

Libya Conflict Media Shift, Rebels and Civil War Memes

The narrative regarding Libya in mainstream media has shifted from an "uprising" to focusing on "rebel forces" and "civil war." Muammar Gaddafi is reportedly fighting back effectively, which may embarrass the Obama administration due to its lack of a clear commitment. The presence of heavy weaponry like RPGs among the opposition suggests a different dynamic than previous events in Egypt or Tunisia.

libya· muammar gaddafi· barack obama· rebels· civil war· mainstream media

01:25 So somebody ripped off the ITM hashtag and now they're using it as their own. They've co-opted it. Wow. Well, you know, that's probably the CIA. These guys are getting too popular. Quick. Yeah, that's what it is. Get your kids to hijack it. The CIA. They're all over us. They are all over us, dude. Hey, I noticed something really interesting. in the discourse of the disinformation of the mainstream media. We suddenly, somewhere between... It's kind of started around Thursday's show when I started noticing it. We've moved from the uprising in Libya to rebels in Libya. This is new. Now all you hear about is rebels. Rebel this, rebel forces. I mean, this is not the same as Egypt or Tunisia. This is something new. I'm sorry.

02:26 What, you weren't paying attention to what I just said? Well I was, kind of, but then I realized that I wasn't. Have you ever done that by the way? Not during the show! Bull crap! I'll repeat it then for those of you who missed it. Damn. The mainstream media has gone from reporting on the uprising in Libya to rebels and rebel forces. And this is a dramatic shift. I'm slightly annoyed that I didn't pick up on this. This I think is what's bothering me. Well it's huge now. And now of course they're going from rebel forces to possible civil war. Yeah, well the civil war meme they started up pretty early on. But the one I'm getting a kick out of is the fact that now Odofi

03:17 uh... adopted i think you know all dot the his new i go dot the about the it's old dot the other side of the two uh... is fighting back and maybe maybe winning no no wait evidence of it i mean that is that it's almost as though the guy could you know unless we do something or not going to do anything except saber rattle and I think it's almost as though somebody set this whole thing up behind the scenes as a way to embarrass Obama because he couldn't commit and he committed then he says you gotta get out and all of a sudden there's gambling going on over there no no telling you this whole thing is like twisted it but of course the mainstream media has to call it differently because we have not seen uh... uprising and angry slaves in tunisia and egypt with rpgs they're armed to the hilt they've got rocket propelled grenades like ok so yeah so what is going on the jackals are in of course

CHAPTER 03 / 42 Discussion

Syria Economic Status, Regional Extortion and Lack of Oil

Syria is described as a "dirt poor" country lacking the oil wealth found in neighboring Arab nations. An anecdote from a flight suggests that the country maintains its regional standing through extortion and involvement in terrorism rather than economic production. This lack of resources is cited as a reason why similar uprisings have not taken hold there compared to Libya.

syria· middle east· oil· extortion· terrorism· al-qaeda

04:15 of course and and i saw this uh... phenomenal article which is made me laugh a lot are you guys do whoever wrote this should really be a uh... listening to the show let me see if i can find out uh... who wrote it the question was why is this not happening in syria because they've got no oil in syria you do for says yet others no one serious unknown fact in this syrians have always i was sitting next to a a a rich uh... arab once on a first-class flight and he was loaded and this guy was just wearing his money and out of the blue in fact i talked to some people in the middle east about this later this experience this is why i was kind of really trusted you to even say this

04:59 But the guy says to me, he says, ah, the Syrians, they got nothing there. It's a poor, dirt poor country and they're behind all the terrorism in the world. They're either part of it or they got something to do with it. This is pre-Al Qaeda. And he says, they have to do that. They're kind of like a bunch of thugs and the only way they can stay together as a country is that they have to, they basically pull, you know, they're extortionists. And they say, we're not gonna do anything, just give us money, give it. So they just essentially extort the entire Arab region and that's how they stay in business because they got nothing they got no the land is poor there's no oil they got it's just a dirt poor hell hole. Well they've got taco filling.

CHAPTER 04 / 42 Discussion

Western Military Intervention, Dutch and British Special Forces in Libya

Reports indicate that a Dutch Marine helicopter crew and a British SAS unit have been captured or detained in Libya. These personnel are officially described as "consultants" or "military advisors" helping the rebels, though the hosts characterize them as "jackals" facilitating a regime change. There is speculation that the West is seeking a ruse to shift troops from Afghanistan to Libya.

libya· netherlands· sas· special air service· military advisors· disinformation

05:37 well there you go. They could certainly sell some of that sand to Taco Bell. Silicon dioxide my friend. I'm sorry, silicon dioxide. No, but it's so obvious once again, I mean it's uber uber obvious what's happening here and so yeah, saber rattling whatever you want to call it but it's so apparent that we're going to go in and now there's multiple false flag events. I told you about the Dutch helicopter uh... they captured the crew and they're holding them hostage that was a good one it will well uh... i have a white now this was a marine helicopter from the dutch marines and i know a lot of these guys and they've been saying to this is so messed up and now it's like you know and now they've released some audio tapes of the helicopter talking to

06:23 uh... air traffic control in malta uh... you know all kinds of disinfo confusing the helicopter the helicopter crew was confused you know we have to go to libya like they hadn't been there you know it's just complete disinformation and we have the same exact same template being applied in gitmo nation east united kingdom where and uh... a special uh... air services sas unit has been captured of course uh... the u k sent uh... consultants I love it when they've got the consultants going. Military advisors and consultants going over to Libya to help advise the protesters. You mean the rebels. I'm sorry, I don't know what to call it now.

07:06 and these guys have got 50mm guns, they've got anti-aircraft weapons I mean this is, it's clearly, they've got the jackals in there, they're taking over, you know Gaddafi didn't play ball and he's out, they're gonna get him out and everyone's gonna move, all the ships are ready, all the ships are at sea, we're gonna move in and I think the only thing that is questionable is how do we uh... get out of afghanistan as quickly as possible to be or uh... to be able to move our troops from afghanistan to libya so they got to come up with some kind of ruse and i i think we're seeing that you know i think we're seeing all this you know this makes no sense of scary one out there and we've been observing that on the show for about six months and it hasn't you know they still haven't come up with a good scheme i do have a clip of uh...

CHAPTER 05 / 42 Discussion

CNN Propaganda Analysis, Wolf Blitzer and Nick Kristof

A CNN segment featuring Wolf Blitzer is analyzed for its scripted nature regarding President Obama's dilemma in Libya. The discussion mentions New York Times columnist Nick Kristof and his alleged influence on George Clooney, suggesting a CIA connection. A host notes a moment where a reporter appears to go off-script when comparing the current situation to the 1993 Bosnia intervention.

cnn· wolf blitzer· nick kristof· bosnia· barack obama· propaganda

07:57 of the propaganda ministry at CNN doing an absolute scripted uh... discussion about the situation in libya and obama's dilemma i wouldn't call this it says bogus cnn propaganda on the clip but it could be called a you know uh... obama's dilemma and if you did you do you know i see these people reading off a prompter as they go back and forth with this discussion this is wolf blitzer and for somebody who's unnamed was that the guy who was in front of the green screen during the first gulf war was not a good guy duckett that we have any more action that the obama administration needs to step up and do all that i'm hearing is that the u.s. is ready to do a lot more but they would like to see the international community get more did directly involved international organizations the europeans uh... and certainly the arab world the muslim world i'd like to see some help coming in as well but i think the president united states has made it clear to all of his aid his age let's do whatever we can to help these refugees but let's make sure that the whole world the

08:57 the UN international relief organizations do all they can as well. The good news and we heard this earlier from Nick Kristof, the Tunisians. Nick Kristof by the way is the guy who allegedly, he's from the New York Times, he allegedly inspired George Clooney to go to Sudan. That's what Clooney keeps saying. So a connection. Yeah you know I kept reading these great Kristof articles like I gotta go help. So yeah a total CIA connection there with Kristof. are doing a lot the egyptians are doing a lot but there's so much more that has to be done that these people are entire shape right now you know people look back though to bosnia nineteen ninety three for instance and the international community did get together and did do something so what's the difference then okay stop

09:42 Now back this up again and listen to her question. She asked what the difference is with with Bosnia. His answer is, his answer is as to what the difference is is There's a difference. It's so lame. Back it up a second. Any more action that the Obama administration needs to step up and do? What I'm hearing is that the US is ready to do a lot more, but they would like to see the international community get more directly involved, international organizations, the Europeans. uh... and certainly the arab world the muslim world i'd like to see some help coming in as well but i think the president united states has made it clear to all of his aid his aids let's do whatever we can to help these refugees but let's make sure that the whole world the the u n international relief organizations do all they can as well the good news and we heard this earlier from the christoph the tunisians

10:37 are doing a lot the Egyptians are doing a lot but there's so much more that has to be done that these people are in dire shape right now. You know people look back though to Bosnia 1993 for instance and the international community did get together and did do something so what's the difference then? You know it was a different situation then, but this is a, it's weighing very heavily on President Obama. She went off script. She was either that or he skipped a piece on the prompter. Just different, shut up and stick to the script. Alright now a potential crisis, a potential nightmare, the slaughter of thousands.

CHAPTER 06 / 42 Discussion

Mustard Gas Narrative, No-Fly Zones and Surgical Strikes

Media reports have begun mentioning Gaddafi's potential use of mustard gas, a narrative tactic previously used against Saddam Hussein to justify intervention. Senator John McCain is advocating for a no-fly zone, which the hosts interpret as a precursor to bombing radar sites and launching "surgical strikes." The military leadership appears reluctant to engage in a third war while still active in Iraq and Afghanistan.

mustard gas· saddam hussein· john mccain· no-fly zone· surgical strikes· blackwater

11:17 of people if Gaddafi wants to fight till the bitter end he's got the weapons to do that he's got not only conventional weapons he's got some mustard gas. Oh this is... Mustard gas? Where did this come into the picture? Well this hit me when I was watching this stuff come by mustard gas of course it's Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons on his own people. Remember he killed all the Kurds and that was another big reason to go in? Like the guy's evil. I know we need that meme back in place. We need some mustard gas. But of all the things mustard gas, in my case it comes with a newer gas. Really? Get a little high tech. World War I. really can't you update the script just a little bit they pulled it out of the Wang computer this script plant douchebags yeah indeed we could have used anything but mustard gas but it also kind of frames the you know frames the Libyans as dust bunnies you know as as as archaic dumb shits

12:15 I think that's what it's intended for. Yeah, you might be right there, that's good. But it's clear to show that he's an evil guy, and I'm just waiting for someone to say, we'll remember Saddam Hussein, you know, gassed his own people, the Kurds up there, I'm waiting for that. You just, I can predict it right now, you're gonna hear that. He could do that if he really wants to do that, he could kill a lot of people. Yay! And you know, the president... killing people is a bit uh... the same himself well what can we do it on my watch as president of this what should we be doing uh... there are some of his administration and certainly in congress are saying get that no-fly zone uh... up and about uh... start uh... uh... arming some of the opposition the rebels if you will he's reluctant to take that step right now i think they're waiting to see what happens over the next few days so but uh... what surprises me is two things i don't hear anyone anywhere

13:04 Why are we bothering? Why? Let them go kill each other. Who cares? That's not in our Constitution. We're supposed to go jump in and help everybody. And the way that's being proposed to help is by creating a no-fly zone that's code for shooting down jets and bombing anti-aircraft sites and radar sites. When here's when you know when it's going to happen when they start talking about surgical strikes, then it's on yes, then when I say oh, well, that's our basic some surgical strikes Then you know it's on and it's happening. So we're just waiting for those two things for the mustard gas usage

13:43 and for the surgical strikes. That'll be code for. It's on Blackwater, formerly known as Blackwater. Get you guys ready, we're going in. Yes, you know Senator McCain is among those saying that we need to have a no-fly zone that is in place, but you know from my perspective this was looking to be long drawn out protracted battle here what do you think the pettigrew is very reluctant to go ahead with the no-fly zone it's not just a no-fly zone that to fly some planes over the skies of libya you got a first knock out their anti-aircraft capabilities their radar there's a nice saying that that's good you don't want to endanger u.s. planes or nato planes

14:20 flying over. McCain makes the point though that if you were to announce a no-fly zone, Libyan pilots themselves would be deterred. They would stop flying because they don't want to be shot down out of the sky and that's a risk. Who knows what the outcome would be. I know there's a serious debate going on and I know that the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, they're not eager to get involved militarily right now. They've got two other wars that they're fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. I have another clue as to how this was scripted. Do you recall when, it was only a few weeks ago really, when we talked about Hillary Clinton removing the ambassador to Luxembourg?

CHAPTER 07 / 42 Discussion

Luxembourg Ambassador Removal, Hillary Clinton and Global Chess Game

The removal of the U.S. Ambassador to Luxembourg is linked to reports of Gaddafi's finances being centered in that country's banking industry. This move is framed as part of a "Clinton operation" following the blueprint laid out in Zbigniew Brzezinski's book, *The Grand Chessboard*. The goal is suggested to be the creation of a "Middle East Union" similar to the European Union.

luxembourg· hillary clinton· muammar gaddafi· zbigniew brzezinski· global chess game· glencore

14:57 Remember that? No. Yes, she was one of the top Obama donors and... Oh right, right, right, right, the party girl. Yeah, the party girl, exactly. So she was ambassador to Luxembourg. Now Luxembourg basically has one industry, banking. And so now we're getting the big news stories. Luxembourg at the heart of Gaddafi's finances. So all of his money there, of course, they call it a financial clearinghouse. So I think that this was scripted in so far that Hillary Clinton's like, look we're gonna go in, we got the Glencore IPO on the way, we gotta get Libya, it's really good for everybody, I mean all our oil companies are already in there, we've gotta create a ruckus. Oh crap, that bitch is in there, oh geez. Alright, let's trump up some crazy charges that she's partying and we'll get her out and I don't know if she's been replaced yet.

15:49 But that would make so much sense because they need a shill there now that this is coming down to Luxembourg Well, couldn't that woman have been a shill? No, no, she knows she was a ditz. She was a party girl Probably she knew that she was not on the Clinton camp. Let's put it that way This is a Clinton operation as was Bosnia and that's why buzzed the Bosnia meme was dropped into that. Yes, by the way And and this is also if you've read George not a George Brzezinski's Global Chess Game? Zbigniew Brzezinski's Global Chess Game. He literally talks about, you know, what we need is a giant global unrest in the Middle East and in Northern Africa. Yeah, we haven't brought that book up for a while. I think it needs to be in the book club. It should be in the book club, yeah. The book club knows about it. Because this is basically the blueprint and I have to read it again myself because I gotta see what's next. So we can just talk about it before it actually happens.

CHAPTER 08 / 42 Discussion

Al Jazeera Promotion, British Intelligence and Arabian Union

Hillary Clinton's promotion of Al Jazeera as a top news source is viewed as a move to support globalist agendas. The hosts claim the network is funded by British Intelligence and serves the interests of the Trilateral Commission. The ultimate objective is described as the formation of an "Arabian Union" to facilitate a New World Order.

al jazeera· hillary clinton· british intelligence· mi6· globalism· trilateral commission

16:51 But this is part, if you buy into the idea that Zbigniew Brzezinski, who I think still two of his sons are in the Obama administration, and of course his daughter is on Morning Joe, he's part of the Ministry of Truth. uh... if you buy into that then what is happening and what is now indeed being called for is something akin to a european union of the middle east so be more like the arabian union and this is exactly what the the globalist want this is what the new world order is always called for we have the north american union the european union uh... then we have the uh... pacific uh...

17:34 uh... the asia-pacific union and we need a middle east union and up on top of that is working and we got the trilateral commission and and everybody runs the world and kumbaya we hold hands and tell each other secrets and uh... and uh... i don't know well you know the thing is that this theory is correct or if you're at the playbook that you're seeing is a clinton one that it would make sense my assertion that obama's being kind of left out and left out the hang yeah as uh... like he's in his audience you know he's saying you've not saying anything about qaddafi then he's using he should be has to be a demigod this is going to be a fiasco as far as he's concerned because then that that's just what the clinton's would want well this is so it didn't guess who's propagating this mean by the way and middle east without borders what news organization with this come from john well if it was a rewriters would be one of the your keys even better than that

18:28 uh... i don't know you new york times al jazeera all right al jazeera which is what hillary is promoting as the best news source right and of course okay that that's even better that's that's just that that's such that connected dot and that's perfect and that's you know funded by the brits course which is stupid to know that here but yeah that's that's funded by the by british intelligence at best and uh... you know there's always hillary and bills working for british intelligence and my six i think they're working for brzezinski really somebody's working for somebody anyway uh... i think that somebody's working for somebody because they need the money but but i think we have there's another plan afoot another plan and i'm liking this one a lot because we haven't had one in a while and you know uh... we need to to jack up the television ratings one way or another of course we know that uh... uh... many singers and performers such as mariah carey performed for one of uh... odafi's sons odafi

CHAPTER 09 / 42 Discussion

Mariah Carey and Celebrity Performances for Gaddafi Family

Mariah Carey expressed embarrassment over performing for the Gaddafi family and pledged to donate proceeds from a future single to human rights causes. Other performers like Beyonce and Usher are also mentioned as having received large sums for similar private events. The hosts criticize the celebrities for not simply returning the millions of dollars they were paid.

mariah carey· beyonce· usher· human rights· libya· celebrity apology

19:26 uh... mariah carey now comes out saying she feels horrible and embarrassed about uh... before and performing for uh... the libyan leaders family and she pledges to raise money for human rights with a future single well she just give the money back well you know that would be no that would suck so she's not going to do that it despite ignoring calls to donate the one million dollars she reportedly received for the gay carry promises that a future single say hello it saved the day will raise money for human rights uh... save the day save the children i feel i feel a telephone come on john don't you though yeah we were overdo we have a have a lot of years it's a good way to and of course uh... will have been only for todd on beyond say will be in that i mean everyone perform there so everyone might have one thing guilty

20:18 So they all gotta like join in and hold hands and yeah, we gotta raise some money. We're not gonna give the money back because you know, we spent that over. That wouldn't be right. That would, I mean come on, I worked hard for that. You know, I sang for 45 minutes. Crazy. So yeah, this is a playbook. Complete playbook. And uh... Winning. Winning. Duh. Rhymes with winning. Anyone? Yeah, that would be us. uh... are just briefly uh... i think we just talk about it for a second about uh... sheen's corner which uh... was uh... announced a great fanfare yesterday and of course uh... like idiots we all sat down in front of you stream

CHAPTER 10 / 42 Discussion

Charlie Sheen Ustream Failure, Sheen's Corner and Domestic Violence

Charlie Sheen's live Ustream debut, "Sheen's Corner," is criticized for poor production quality and declining viewership after an initial peak of 120,000. The hosts argue the failure proves that Hollywood's "smoke and mirrors" are necessary to make Sheen appear talented. A New York Times article regarding Sheen's history of domestic violence and legal issues is also discussed.

charlie sheen· ustream· sheen's corner· new york times· domestic violence

20:57 I sat down with my first thing was like hmm interesting will you stream hold out is this going to be the victorious secret of of our age I only saw like a hundred thousand viewers online I didn't see you know I got to 120 it peaked at about 120,000 and then it started to drop like a rock and then by the time I left, which was, I mean everyone just started bailing out, it was down to like 95,000, I think it just kept falling. It was terrible. Well my takeaway is this, production is everything. If this doesn't prove to you that Hollywood is a big box of trickery and smoke and mirrors that can make any idiot look really good and be funny, then you're crazy.

21:44 Because this is probably Charlie Sheen and I've seen this behavior with people who are on top of their game. you know, you create a following starts to build around you of ass kissers and people who are, yeah, you're great and it's funny and we've... You're hilarious! We know people like this which is kind of right. Oh yeah, more than a few actually. Yes, and it's a very typical behavior and I'm off the Charlie Sheen boat. I'm like, I was giving the guy a real benefit of the doubt but no, I'm sorry, he's nuts.

22:22 I mean, not nuts, but it's just, you know... He's on some trip. We have a Dutch expression, over het paard getilt, which means that he's been hoisted up on top of the horse, but so far he fell off on the other side. It's kind of a good expression. That's a good one. Yeah, that's a real good one. If anyone could possibly pronounce it. Boom. So, there you go. Charlie Sheen. Sorry, dude. Sorry dude, loser, duh. Sorry dude. Oh my goodness. See, they also did a hit piece on him in the New York Times. People should read it. It's quite interesting. About his... His wife. He's a wife beater.

23:06 Well that's not necessarily confirmed. He's not in jail, he's not in jail and I'm sure that if he actually was he probably would have been convicted of it. I don't think he was. Well he was if you read that piece carefully there was a number of times where he pled no contest, pled guilty. Oh really? and did some uh... you know community service is some other things i mean he'd be did she see read the pieces pretty it's an indictment i mean there's no question about it and he would address it with the people of the with the peace points out and it's linked in the show notes no agenda show dot com i i think what the peace points out correctly is that in society in general if a uh... yeah the piece was about if if a woman is a quote gold digger or you know or screws around or actually is professional and having sex for money that uh... that it's ok that she's beaten and that's kind of a societal thing which i think is indeed uh... true in our society and obviously wrong yeah i think it i think it was a really excellent and well-written piece but it was a hit piece

24:05 and but you know i couldn't uh... yeah disagree with it but i got to let me know if he said worked too much time taken up already indeed uh... uh... what i have uh... i i i i guess your executive producers of the other lot of them we had a good uh... showing uh... christian again i just say that yeah i know i do you say the season i noticed that i had a it's a little shop you know and i would as uh... when i'm not watching c-span so you don't have to and and i think that part of the giving level that we see today john is because

CHAPTER 11 / 42 Discussion

NPR Donation Drives, Public Radio Funding and Giving Levels

National Public Radio (NPR) and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) are criticized for their aggressive donation drives and "giving level" terminology. Despite receiving government funding, these organizations utilize a "sold out" advertising model to drive up sponsorship prices. The hosts contrast this with the No Agenda value-for-value model.

npr· cpb· corporation for public broadcasting· donation drive· advertising· sponsorships

24:42 we did that work again it's not always apparent how much work goes into watching incredibly boring crap to you know the stuff the journalist won't do because you know they got deadlines and hey they got parties to go to they got white house parties to go to um but uh i've also listened to npr in the car because i i drive a lot more now being in los angeles in the sob 93 yeah sob 93 it's gay It is, it's a really gay car. It's a woman's car. Women love those old Sobs. It's silver which is even worse doesn't get surprises that the paint hasn't No, no the paint is beautiful the bumpers are weird because silver paint is considered the most is the worst pain It's actually the bumpers are peeling a little bit, but not the not the paint job itself. That's actually quite good I take care of it though. You know I wax it and everything my neighbors looking up. Oh my god. He's waxing this song again You do you don't wax it?

25:43 Yeah, no I do. I've waxed it twice since I've had it. Yeah, of course. Really? Yeah, I gotta protect my investment. All $3,000 of it. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm listening to... Well, you should spend your money wisely. Well, yeah. Duh. Stop! So I'm listening to NPR in every single station. Every single public radio station in the Los Angeles area. was doing a donation drive. Oh, it's donation month. They're talking about the give... no matter what your... this is how they pitch it. No matter what your giving level, which I love that word, no matter what your giving level, you know you have to do it. They're going for the hard sell now. It's like even if you agree or disagree with the funding coming from the government, you know what you have to do. They're really quite forceful about this. The... that Corporation for Public Broadcasting

26:38 It brings in billions, billions with a B. They were complaining because they're going to cut a half a billion out of their budget. I mean, we don't... So anyway, the point is that... if you're going to do something... They take commercials! The money is better spent on the no agenda. And you know what they've done? You know what is so smart about their model, about the scam that is National Public Radio? Because they only have sponsorships or advertising or whatever you want to call it, as the CEO of the CPB says herself, uh... they have limited slots available so they are yeah and so what does that do when you would limit the supply i know media buyers who buy radio and i've talked to many of them we first started podcasting they really wanted to uh... yet to figure out how to advertise in what they could charge and of course is no measurement like the arbitrage ratings nothing that is effective enough to and the audiences aren't big enough but they were they're always sold out

27:38 If you're always sold out, then what happens? The price goes up. So it's, they've got a total lock on it. It's very, very smart. Smarter than we are. Yeah, smarter than we are, but we do our best. So let's name a couple of executive producers and four associate executive producers and four members of the 284 Club. Nice. Which is a good number, and I hope that people will, in fact, I'd like to ask anyone who's a new listener or has just been listening, to not even think about the lower, so just join the 285 club. Just do it next week. I think you'll feel better. We had a long letter, I'm now convinced, got a long letter from one of our listeners saying, you know, it actually felt good to be giving. And I think it does feel good for a lot of people and I think people need to do this for their own soul. Do you know what they asked me yesterday at Whole Foods?

CHAPTER 12 / 42 Discussion

Whole Foods Planet Donation, Meat Counter Anecdote

An anecdote describes a checkout experience at Whole Foods where a clerk asked for a dollar donation to "save the planet," prompting a blunt refusal. A second story involves a host's wife wearing a leather coat to the meat counter to intentionally provoke staff members who might hold vegan or environmentalist views.

whole foods· environmentalism· donation· meat counter· leather coat

28:27 Because I, you know me, right John? I give money to lots of people. Yes, he will give money. If a guy on the street asks you for money, you always give him a Fiverr. Right. So I'm at Whole Foods because I had to do the shopping. And not because I love the prices at Whole Foods because they're exorbitant, but at least I can argue with the guys at the fish counter about when it came in and about the mercury level and I feel a little bit better about what I'm buying over Ralph's. Then so it's like a hundred and sixty four dollars and what just for a grocery bags You got to go by the bag for bags Yeah, of course. It's too high. It's like killing me anyway, and then the girl and clearly she was like a newbie She said can I ask you one thing?

29:15 Well, yeah, would you like to add a dollar on that to help save the entire planet? And I didn't hear it at first I'm like and you know, there's a line right? There's a line there. I said, excuse me She says it would you like to add on an extra dollar to help save the entire planet? I said screw the planet The whole line is like oh They're a gas. They screwed the planet. The planet will be fine is the people who are gonna die now. Give me my receipt Horrified I bet they were you're in Whole Foods for God's sake. I didn't want to help save the planet. This dollar what are they asking for a dollar for? I don't know. They're probably just putting it in their coffers. What's it accounted for? I know I wasn't even gonna get into that I'm just like oh you should at least ask how dare you it's like no I but it just came out of my mouth screw the planet. You can see all these Hollywood house frogs going oh no

30:07 an audible gasp. What did he say? What's he doing here? My wife likes to go to Whole Foods and she wears a leather coat and then she says she buys the meat from the meat counter because they do have beef. Yeah, they sure do. Good quality. And she's, I know she probably doesn't like me telling this, she wears a leather coat when she goes to Whole Foods and then she looks down the line of all the different checkers and finds the most dour lesbian she can find. And they're there at Whole Foods. Yeah, there are bunches of them and then you get and she gets in line there and then she just brags about how great the meat is at Whole Foods. Isn't the meat great from that dead animal? Mmm, mmm, yum.

CHAPTER 13 / 42 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Karma Requests and No Agenda Challenge Coin

The hosts acknowledge several high-level donors, including Robert Wiltshire and Will Lissack, who produces the No Agenda challenge coin. Various listeners request "karma" for personal hardships, including family illnesses and legal troubles. A donor from Bangkok describes the difficulty of a three-hour daily commute in Thailand.

robert wiltshire· will lissack· alan asaf· bangkok· karma· challenge coin

30:49 All right, anyway executive producership today. We're very very proud of our We got a good support Robert Wiltshire came in from Tampa, Florida six hundred sixty six dollars and 66 cents Which is finishes up his knighthood? He'll be nice late in the show nice We have an anonymous donor from Bridgewater, New Jersey with that three thirty three thirty three that's a social and he's not he'll be we have did three thirty three is a cutoff point for executive producer we have to we have one stand alone to executive producers and then four associates got let me just read the about the bridgewater guys and anonymous donation he says he's been a lister says number show one stream contributor chat participant but is he but he's got a lot of bad karma's gotten mom's got cancers why i'm getting a chance for his twelve-year-old football system shooting up a jewelry store my fourteen-year-old being bounced from school

31:37 14 year old friend's destroying, one of his friends or somebody destroyed his 41,000 song database and his truck's windshield's being smashed by a pebble. He could use some karma but doesn't believe it should, believes it should come of its own volition so that's why he gave us 33333. I'm not, I looked up at the karma manual. man and it's a he says it can't be given or asked for in the karma manual on page twenty it definitely says you can ask for karma but we're you but he doesn't want to go you know what i had journals have a quick meeting john i think we should give this anonymous guy from bridgewater new jersey karma what do you think

32:13 Well, I think we should but he doesn't want it. Well, he's here cuz you know, it's good. It's good. I'm telling you karma No, he doesn't want to ask for it, but we gave it to him. That's a big okay. We gave it to him after the meeting well Will Lissack in Happy Valley, Oregon who does the No Agenda Challenge coin sent 33333 in and he says he he's a student he says also my sister Christine told me your college science class has added a new learning objective biodiversity. Yay everybody! Sir Alan Asaf, Decatur, Georgia. John and Adam like to be a member of the 284 Club and thank Sir John Smith for moving me up to knighthood. Please send them a big dose of karma. You've got karma. Hey, is Sir Alan, is he an Arab?

33:09 I don't know if he is or not. He might be. I hope so. He might be Arabian in some sense. We call him ARABS here in America. John? Well, he's in Georgia. That's what they would call him. An ARAB. Please send him a big dose of you did that also. He says also all virtualization and admin engineers should visit his blogs edge site under the hood dot com and Zen trifuge we'll put a link in the show notes that good ones in it's a Zen trifuge it's ZEN dash trifuge no no XEN I sorry XEN dash trifuge dot com he also visited his virtualization blog wag the real at wag the real dot wordpress dot com keep up the great work

33:56 A-LAN ASAF. Yeah, as in the LAN, local area network. A-LAN, local area network, get it? Sir A-LAN ASAF to A-REB. Thank you, A-LAN. We appreciate the support. He's a member of the 284 Club, of course. Yes, and an associate executive producer for today's show. A jewel, um... Oh, brother. come on you'll uh... and amir yeah from the mirror uh... shul fundamere jules fundamere in the morning long time this refers time donor got that sell for a like first-time donors are coming in that one of the clubs i appreciate that for keeping up the good work and because of that i feel linking up to social media with john sir steven pelz marker and george vanderhorst without the proper donation could you please bring your karma bell yes you've got karma

34:50 This is the magical third month of my company Blauwater. B-L-A-W-W-W-D-A-W-A-T-E-R. Blauwater.com the l a w w eighty-year and yes i am a slave working for the media industry with my startup because of the housing crisis i'm stuck with two houses into mortgages the pace i guess what i did quit my job and start my own company hot they decided that with these with three kids and a lovely wife in this freak show world is about time to draw the line and only work with positive energy and take pride in what i do bills are no bills good great and where's he from john what's the name of the town

35:27 missing again netherlands very good very close close to missing it flissing and period we have another great anyway goes on a did did did this must be interesting because he's working in this community of these giant mega yachts russians rush he probably knows if you're a somebody does uh... mark martinette in santa monica california two eighty four club uh... hey john and i might have requested title of techno expert in addition to producer after listening to thursday show i'm pretty sure i do more for you and my company as a producer in tech support than any state department techno expert would do

36:04 yeah that refers to last week's show or last show uh... if anybody's is someone also send us a song a techno expert song i'll play that at the end of the show it's kind of funny they do work for the government after all great show i throw a virtual shoe at those worthless knuckleheads yes indeed the uh... here's your viewers virtual almost hit me uh... nick newell now the first time donor bangkok thailand somebody cop two eighty four club been enjoying the show for a while now although i probably agree with only sixty percent of what you say which is probably higher than most people i love the way you say it and certainly reduces the pain of a three our daily commute holy mackerel power commuter at the three-hour daily commute in and out of bangkok uh... well that's why she's only going one mile

36:49 one mile an hour. If you've ever driven in Bangkok that's what it is, you go one mile. It's ridiculous, all of Southeast Asia it's horrible. I think if you review previous shows and donation levels you'll find a correlation between the outlandishness of Adam's post-donation conspiracy input and the donation level so don't hold back. Oh, thanks for encouraging him. I have one request. Please ask listeners to visit OneForRuby.com with the number 4. OneForRuby.com is a very special channel that needs your support. Thanks Nick. And finally, Sir Vernon White or to be Sir Vernon White in Pearl Land, Texas. He's also a member of the 284 Club and that'll close our Executive and Associate Executive Producers out for today's show. Thank you very much everybody.

CHAPTER 14 / 42 Discussion

Domain Name Redirects, PR Initiatives and 285 Club

Listeners have purchased various domain names, such as "gayasspirates.com" and "biodiversitylies.com," to redirect traffic to the No Agenda website. The hosts announce the closing of the "284 Club" and encourage new listeners to join the "285 Club" for the upcoming episode to support the show's operations.

domain names· biodiversity· gay ass pirates· 285 club· propaganda

37:30 And that's now their associate and 284 is that's it right? Yeah. Okay good. Couple PR mentions some more domain names being sent our way to noagendashow.com nastypoliticians.com redirecting to us uh... major fuck ups dot com interesting fact use that a good or bad i don't know i don't know i don't google making allies as for that one uh... use him dot com now here's one that i thought would get us a lot of link love and remember this all points to our show site no agenda show dot com dutch escort dot com which is probably worth some real money answer i would think that penis proteases dot com uh...

38:14 HerpesOintment.com and SmokeCannabis.com all pointing out to NoAgendaShow.com. Oh, it's PenisProthesis. I'm sorry, Prothesis, yes. What was the last one I missed? Cannabis something? SmokeCannabis.com and then we have NoAgendaVaccine.com and VaccinesForEverything.com. That is very nice. uh... doug nation dot com now being uh... directed to uh... no agenda show dot com drone nation dot com as well which i think is a another that's a good one is a good one uh... assassinate means dot com who was sassy sassy tame and yeah i i i'm i'm liking what you guys are coming up with and of course uh... the crown jewel gay ass pirates dot com which uh... another one that we really needed and uh... winding out the list biodiversity f a q dot com

39:11 biodiversity lies dot com and this is spelled properly not pay but the real biodiversity and biodiversity truth dot com uh... all of these are great p r initiatives and uh... you can read about people did those in the show notes no agenda show dot com and of course thanks to our executive producer sir robert wiltshire we'll be making him later today as our executive producer of episode two hundred eighty four also executive producer anonymous from new jersey who we ran the carmel before and will be sack and of course this episode's associate executive producers and exclusive to eighty four club members the doors close you can't get in anymore uh... you can start uh... getting in on the two eighty five club for the next show we think that a nice ring to it to eighty five club sure does we think that everybody sir alan asaf jules on the mirror and techno expert mark martinet

39:58 and nick newell and serve ronan white say you're giving levels have been highly appreciated it really pumps me up makes me feel alive ready to kick everybody's ass a propaganda formula are formally is this we go out we had people in the mouth and let me hear you right off the bat john with uh... the facts that uh... once again uh... i feel vindicated for holding on to my gold

CHAPTER 15 / 42 Discussion

Gold Prices, Tennessee Alternate Currency Bill and 10th Amendment

Gold prices have reached $1,430 per ounce, leading several U.S. states to consider alternate currencies. Tennessee is following Virginia and South Carolina in exploring gold and silver-backed currencies to protect against potential U.S. dollar hyperinflation. The hosts debate the practicality of these moves, with one suggesting lead might be a more stable base for currency.

gold· silver· tennessee· 10th amendment· hyperinflation· alternate currency

40:40 as you many times have and we even had a conversation a few weeks ago we said I know everyone saying it's going to go and it's going to go down and what we were like 1430 now on the the gold price for a price of the for an ounce of gold yeah I discussed this with Horowitz no you didn't because it just shows that I am right about this thing you gotta hold on to it and in fact is there's a lot of gold in the news massive gold demand continues in china columbia new gold rush fuels oil old conflict global mining production up everywhere apparently they haven't found all the gold and it seems that there's still a lot of gold in the united states interest a lot of gold in uh... africa which of course is a lot of gold in africa's weather check chinese are there and uh...

41:31 And interesting to see that a couple of states, notably Utah, are now making their own currencies or attempting to pass bills to have their own currency which is backed by gold and silver. I have a news clip here from Nashville as Tennessee is attempting to do the same thing just in case, just in case on the outset it could happen that the dollar becomes worthless. Yeah.

42:22 He wants to make sure Tennessee is prepared in case the bubble pops. That's why he wants to set up a committee to look into what it would take for Tennessee to come up with an alternate currency. He says there's concern hyperinflation could render the U.S. dollar worthless and could throw the state's budget and economy into chaos. Since the federal government hasn't come up with a backup plan, he thinks the state should exercise its 10th amendment right to do so. I'm not here saying that I'm chicken little and the sky is falling, but at the same time we must be prepared to think of how we are going to survive.

42:59 Now this is not an idea exclusive to Tennessee. Both Virginia and South Carolina have already set up committees to look into setting up their own currencies. So is it too soon I guess to start wondering who's going to be on Tennessee's currency? You know, Phil Bredesen, Bill Haslam. Crackpot and Buzzkill should be on the currency. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I wonder how long it will be before somebody gets assassinated over this idea. Interesting. I don't think, I mean, whether it's going to be necessary or not, it can't be hurting the price of gold, these moves. I mean, it sounds to me like we've got at least five states doing this. Yeah, this is taking gold. Gold might get to, whatever it gets to, it's going to be an interesting fall because, you know, once you commit, you make your currency link to gold, which is

43:50 you know goes up and down in value and uh... as people can you know put their hundred dollars in the tennessee hundred in the gold price goes back to nine hundred or whatever uh... you you you just been screwed out of a bunch of money in tennessee you're really such a buzzkill on this man i'm i'm i'd this will be the only thing we truly disagree upon but since we started the show i bought gold around eight hundred eight hundred fifty dollars and it's now fourteen thirty Yeah, so you know you can see over as a much better and lead has tripled in value you could have bought lead. Why don't we I'll tell you what why don't we make bills in Tennessee based on lead?

44:26 I'm not against that. Can you make lead yourself? So when you need, you go to the bank and say I want my money in lead. You know, so they give you a couple tons of lead. It doesn't... Put it in your backyard. Okay, you're just being a jerk about it. No, being honest, I'm being realistic about it. It's just too late. I'm I'm thinking a move to Tennessee may be in order. Well, you know, you can do the show from Tennessee. I sure could. Start developing an accent, talking a little bit like this, by the time you're done, you're going to be like, well, you know, you're buzzkill and you should go back to California where all the weirdos live. Where them weirdos live with them concrete swimming ponds. Right. All right. I'm just saying, I have my recommendations for our listeners, and this is not financial advice. In fact,

CHAPTER 16 / 42 Discussion

Foreclosure Buying Meme, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Demise

Mainstream morning shows are heavily promoting the purchase of foreclosed homes, creating a "foreclosure mania" meme. Experts on these programs warn that interest rates will skyrocket once Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are phased out. The hosts suggest this coordinated media push is intended to artificially jumpstart the real estate market.

foreclosures· real estate· fannie mae· freddie mac· interest rates· short sales

48:31 is funny so the thing that did the mean that I ran and I rented a couple of them but the one that got me the most is I and it's funny you watch I was I started to watch the morning shows you know so people out there don't have to the today show Good Morning America and the wow are you are you like I'm a self mutilation cake or something pretty much and and so all of a sudden on the say all the shows at once and then on the national news and everywhere you go there is a huge movement to deal with buying foreclosed homes.

49:07 I mean every show has got tips and how to do it and every and they got people coming on the experts and how the prices are gonna go up and now is the time because now the whole short sell thing is that what this is? No, it's mostly about buying just straight up foreclosures. You can buy a short sell house which is kind of pre foreclosure but it's just mainly to get the real estate market back in gear. Yeah, so someone made the call. Because you know Fannie and Freddie are about to be... Oh that's in the meme. Oh you gotta get in before they because once they get, once they go out of business the interest rates are gonna skyrocket and you're never gonna get these deals. Right. And it's like every show has done this and it's like what would you, you know, is this the time to be doing this? I don't know. I mean there's something up with that but it's very common we're gonna see a lot more of it. Foreclosure mania clip?

49:58 Yeah, you can play that. Interest rates remain low? Interest rates remain low, but they're not going to stay low for long. They're at a nice healthy 5% now. But if we have the demise, which is a lot of people are saying of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, you can bet your bottom dollar that those rates will be up. You can stop it. It's all scripted. Bet your bottom dollar. Bet your bottom dollar. Who is this woman? Schill. Some expert. Whoop whoop! Schill. Schill alert. Schill alert.

CHAPTER 17 / 42 Discussion

Federal Land Sales Meme, Greek Civil Disobedience

A new media meme suggests the federal government should sell its vast land holdings in the Western U.S. to pay down the national deficit. The hosts argue this would only benefit "elites" like Ted Turner. Meanwhile, in Greece, a non-violent revolution has begun where citizens and toll collectors refuse to pay or collect government fees.

federal land· nevada· greece· civil disobedience· ted turner· deficit

50:34 So that's one meme I've been spotting, but the one I think that's more southern is just starting to crop. The one that's starting to crop up and I think it's going to get ahead of steam because I've seen it. The way it's been showing up, it shows up I think on Napolitano, it showed up on Huckabee, and it's starting to show, I think I saw it on one of the liberal stations too, and it's just starting to crop. And I give this is my prediction you're gonna start seeing this more and more the federal government owns So much land that they should be selling it to the public and to the states the states need this land And you know the federal that's code for the Russians

51:11 And they show these maps, every one of them, they always show a map and it's a map showing federally owned property and they own like 90% of Nevada. They own about 50-60% of California, most of Washington and Oregon. And it's just like you look at this map, it's like from the Mississippi River West It's like the feds own most of the property. Right. So this meme is going out there that they should be selling it to the public. That makes no sense. To pay the owner, to pay the bills, to bring down the deficit. No, this is exactly what they did in Greece. It's just a mini version of it. Sell off your public land to the elites because that's who's going to buy it. John, you and I going to go out and buy some land? I don't think so. We have land money.

51:58 Who has that? It's the elites. It's the Ted Turners of the world. Yes, yes, they're gonna go buy it up. Buy lots of land. This is what we've been saying for years on this show. This is how it works. First they take away your money, then they come and take away your stuff. And our stuff is that land. It's this land is your land, this land is my land. And it's just like what's happening in Greece. By the way, did we talk about what they're doing in Greece, which I love? The best revolution is now just started and it's not violent. Do you know what they're doing? The great human resources of the Grecian islands? They've entered into a I won't pay zone.

52:37 Yeah, and this is great. So yeah, this is very funny toll collectors refuse to take your money Cops are not writing tickets. I mean that civil dis that's how you bring it to a standstill That's how you stop these these these ass wads. It's just like you know, wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't it be awesome if that just happened here? Like, no, you know what? You've paid for that. You don't have to pay. We're not going to collect that money from you. Toll collectors would stop doing that. You know, they wouldn't charge you for parking. There'll be no more parking tickets. That would be something spectacular. That would really rock if everyone just said, you know, screw it. We don't have the wherewithal in this country to do that. Well, maybe if Charlie Sheen asked everyone to do it. Maybe then. Duh. Duh.

CHAPTER 18 / 42 Discussion

Domestic Anarchist Meme, Texas Governor's Mansion Bombing

Media outlets are beginning to use the term "domestic anarchists" to describe various groups and incidents. The New York Times recently linked a 2008 bombing of the Texas Governor's mansion to organized anarchist groups. This shift moves away from the "lone wolf" narrative toward a more organized threat model.

anarchists· domestic terrorism· seattle· texas· new york times· governor's mansion

53:21 Okay, I have another meme which needs to be discussed. Mimi actually came up with this one and this is just beginning. That horrible woman from Whole Foods who talks about the meat? The meat woman. The meat with the crazy meat lady at Whole Foods. Wearing the leather. And this I have to say she came up with a lot of links which I'll send off to you for the show notes but You're just starting to see it now. It's blaming everything on, not domestic terrorists, but domestic anarchists. Like us! Well, we're not anarchists because anarchists are, they proclaim to be anarchists and they throw bombs.

54:01 And so now they're redefining a bunch of previous events. In fact, the Seattle, Washington area is where they have, you know, the anarchists have taken credit. There's one story in one of the papers about the anarchists saying, yeah, well, we're responsible for breaking all the windows at the police station. And the cops were asked about this and said, what? What if we don't have any broken windows? What are you talking about? Apparently some of the anarchists didn't get the word or they didn't do their job. and other anarchists that thought they did and so they took credit for stuff that didn't take place but now they're starting to tie stuff back into, for example, there's an article in the New York Times which is headlined, Anarchist Ties Seen in 08 Bombing of Texas Governor's Mansion. So not just lone wolves anymore.

CHAPTER 19 / 42 Discussion

Millennial Socialist Interview, Noodles Restaurant Unionization

An interview with a millennial member of the International Socialist Organization (ISO) highlights his grievances while working at a restaurant called Noodles. The worker complains about being told what to cook and when to arrive, characterizing the workplace as a "dictatorship." The hosts mock the worker's lack of understanding regarding basic employment and the "millennial" work ethic.

millennials· socialism· noodles· unionization· work ethic· international socialist organization

54:46 No, these are organized anarchists. Well, it's interesting. Do you have a clip for that? Because I got something I'd like to play. No, I don't have any clips for the anarchists per se, but I'm just calling this right now as a trending meme that we're going to start seeing. Anarchy is trending, everybody. Put out the word. So I get this clip. This is a funny clip. We've discussed millennials many times on this program. The millennials are born around in the 90s? Are those the millennials? Yes, they're right. Something like that. They're all like my daughter, 20. So they're 18 to 25, whatever. The millennials. Or a little younger even. And they have an inherent attitude that they should be getting everything. For free and they don't like to work. Yeah, exactly.

55:36 So in Wisconsin of course we've got all kinds of groups in there now, all kinds of crazies are popping up because you know you can get on TV. I think that's why they're all showing up there. And there's an organization called the ISO which I think is the International Socialist Organization. So this is an interview, I don't think it's a mainstream clip which makes it even funnier, of this millennial being interviewed And he said, you know, I'm a socialist and we really need to change things and you know if we don't stand up for our rights nothing's gonna change. Now he works at Noodle's. Noodle's which I don't think is a national chain. It sounds to me like it's kind of a small outfit this noodle. Am I wrong about that? Do you know of Noodle's? I don't know. It might or might not be. I can look it up. I've never heard of it. It could be a semi-national chain but it's Noodle's.

56:29 Now listen to the attitude this kid throws down on how it should be at noodles because it ain't going the way he thinks it should be. Well, like I described earlier, there are two fundamental classes that are just a plain fact in society. You either work for someone else or you work for yourself. Yeah, by the way, kid, that's called America. That's how we do it here. And the best thing is you try and start your own business. We're open to do... well, we used to be kind of open to doing that. Now listen to what his gripe is, John. and basically it's a dictatorship there. We're told exactly what we're gonna cook, how we're gonna cook it, what time we're gonna get there, and basically if they don't like what they're doing, they try to tell us what to do. If we don't listen, they get rid of us. And so... It's called having a job! Holy mackerel! This is a great clip! This is the clip of the day! Can you believe this crap? It's like, they tell us how to cook, tell us what time to get there, and if you don't, then you get fired! The nerve of them!

57:38 We're not able to actually cooperate in a way that we make decisions together. I try to convince my fellow employees that we should have a union at Noodles. It's a source of power to start with. This is what's wrong? We need a source of power There's a whole bunch of you in one. You know I've got this no agenda news network calm which is really rolling pretty well Yeah, great. Where did that clip come from from the knowage in the news network calm? I mean where did it originally come from it wasn't the news network that was out interviewing this kid hold on a second I can find it for you

58:15 More clips like that that was good wasn't it? Oh, yeah? Yeah, I can't believe it man like they gave me some money, and then they told me what to do Yeah, I told them to shove it and they told me how to cook man. That's like not okay. All right It's not it I don't know how to cook, but I don't need to be told at noodles So we got to have like a union of noodles But the whole interview is so incredibly serious, which is kind of the frightening thing about it. It's just like, oh my god. Yeah, well it's in the show notes. I gotta find a note. You know, Eddie at the MeVeo office is a millennial.

58:55 I really like this kid. But once I talked to him about the fact that he's working and he's always laughing about everything. I said, you're the only one in your group that works, right? He says, yeah. He says, the funny thing is he goes to work, He leaves his group of guys I guess he's living with a bunch of guys or I don't know what but he or hangs out with a bunch of guys and he first he gets up at 6 in the morning and surfs then he comes into work. He says the only time he'll ever have to surf and then he goes home. He says he gets home and the guys that he left before he went to work are sitting there not having done a damn thing. And who's paying for all that? I don't know I guess he is I have no idea. Unbelievable.

CHAPTER 20 / 42 Discussion

Loss of Manufacturing, Socialization of Youth and Work Experience

The decline of American manufacturing is discussed not just as an economic loss, but as a sociological one. The hosts argue that the lack of summer jobs and entry-level labor positions has created a generation of youth who do not know how to take orders or understand how businesses operate. This lack of "socialization" prevents them from becoming successful entrepreneurs.

manufacturing· sociology· youth employment· entrepreneurship· boeing· work ethic

59:35 Yeah. But I mean, how misguided is that? I mean... I don't... I think... I blame the overall... I think the loss of manufacturing in this country which doesn't give kids the opportunity to work in the summertime. When I was a kid, when I was a kid, I used to work every summer when I went through high school I had a job somewhere. I did something. And when I was even younger than that I had two paper routes. I didn't have one, I had two paper routes. I had a regular Oakland Tribune route and I had a shopper route. and then I worked every summer, and then during college, I worked every summer and I had various gimmicks to get better jobs so I'd get paid a lot. So I've always been working, and one time I was bitching about the kids in Port Townsend hanging around in the summertime, and I wrote an op-ed, it was years ago, in the San Francisco Examiner, bitching about these kids not doing anything, and this was like 20 years ago, and I got a whole bunch of letters from kids, do what?

1:00:30 He says there's nothing to do, there's no jobs anywhere, he says there's no businesses that want to hire us, so what are we supposed to do? We just hang around. And it's created an entire generation of kids who don't know anything about work, they don't know how to take orders. So you're saying because we don't really have those jobs anymore, it's uh, they don't do them. Because I did hard labor, I did um, I stacked firewood, but you know like in big orange bags filled with mahogany which is like crazy heavy. It's something. Yeah or painting like the gas station. I'd have to paint the tanks and stuff. I mean you know it's like

1:01:10 Yeah, you gotta do stuff. There's stuff to do. There's nothing to do. These kids have nothing. There's no opportunities for them. I mean, you know, Eddie's job is basically watching videos all day and it's like, and that's like a job. It's like, there's nothing like these old jobs used to be. We used to have factories all over the place that always needed extra help. And I think, I don't think it's just a loss of manufacturing in this country that's the problem. It's the social loss of manufacturing that's the problem. It's not that we need to build stuff in this country. Yeah, you can get a job at Boeing probably if you were an engineer. But the fact of the matter is there's no, we don't socialize our kids to be into working. They don't work. And thus they don't even, they don't have enough experience, work experience to know how to do entrepreneurial stuff well enough

1:01:58 because they'd never seen a business how it works and how people are are are managed. This kid is a perfect example. These people are telling me what to do I don't get it why were they doing that? Yeah, we have to work together to figure out how to make noodles. It's disturbing. I think the sociology of the loss of manufacturing is more important than the actual loss of manufacturing. I think it should have been subsidized even if we're taking a beating because these kids, we have an entire generation or two generations of kids that don't know crap about working or being managed or following instructions or anything like that. They've been to school now they're just bums.

CHAPTER 21 / 42 Discussion

Rajat Gupta Insider Trading, Goldman Sachs and White House Dinners

Rajat Gupta is facing charges for providing inside information from Goldman Sachs board meetings to the Galleon Fund. The hosts note that Gupta was a frequent guest at White House state dinners. They suggest that while Gupta may go to jail, the "elitist" figures involved in similar activities often escape prosecution.

rajat gupta· insider trading· goldman sachs· galleon fund· warren buffett· white house

1:02:39 And what are we going to do about this, Dr. Dvorak? Nothing, we're doomed. We're doomed, right? It's all over. I was killed. Sorry, I mean, I could just observe. Nice little elitist thing that was noticed by one of our human resources. So you know we've got this insider trading scandal. Remember the Galleon Fund? This is the Indian guy, Raj Rajjav. whatever his name is, he um Rajat, Raj Rajat, something like that. So the way it went down is he was trading on the inside of Goldman Sachs deals and he would get calls within one minute of a you know like oh Warren Buffett's gonna put five billion into the company. The guy gets a call everyone invests, make out like bandits.

1:03:33 So, you know, this trial is coming up. No one will go to jail. This guy will go to jail. Of course, we'll throw the poor Indian schmuck in jail. You know, all the elitist white guys will get away with murder. But someone noticed that this very guy, Raj... I might as well get his name now. Hold on. Raj... Maybe it's Rajiv. Hold on. Rajat Gupta. That's Gupta, that's Jones in India. I know, but his name is Rajat Gupta. He has been on several, and I have the list right here, several of the White House dinner lists. Mr. Rajat Gupta. I wonder if that'll come up in questioning. So what did you talk about when you were there at the White House for the state dinner? You know, we never get invited to this stuff. No, but we're not corrupt enough.

CHAPTER 22 / 42 Discussion

Donald Rumsfeld Book Tour, Afghanistan Corruption and Hamid Karzai

Donald Rumsfeld appeared on Bill O'Reilly's show to promote his memoir, defending Afghan President Hamid Karzai against charges of corruption. Rumsfeld compared corruption in Afghanistan to that in the United States, a statement that surprised O'Reilly. The hosts interpret Rumsfeld's rhetoric as a signal that the U.S. is preparing to exit Afghanistan and potentially move toward Pakistan or Libya.

donald rumsfeld· bill o'reilly· hamid karzai· afghanistan· pakistan· corruption

1:04:38 However, Ted Rumsfeld has been doing the rounds. You know that's his name, right? Ted. Ted. Ted Rumsfeld. He's been doing the rounds promoting his book. He's still on his... Do we know what his advance was? How many million dollars he got? Because he's doing a lot of crazy, horrible shows. Well, it's obviously in the millions because that's what they... I mean, because he is... It's in the contract. He has to hit the road hard. Yeah. So he's um... Nobody really wants to read Rumsfeld's book? No. And everyone who's read it says it's full of crap anyway. So he did the following on, and I don't even want to set it up, it's too funny to hear it again. This time it was on Bill O'Reilly, which I think you watch more than I do. I don't... I had a clip but I didn't watch it. I like it when they have the milfy chick and the gay guy doing the quiz. That's always funny. I like that. That's funny but actually the best part of the O'Reilly show

1:05:32 Is when he brings the body language expert in. Yeah, yeah, no she hasn't been on in a while I don't think. Have you seen her? He bumped her from the show a couple shows ago. I was irked. An outrage. Outrage. So Ted, bullshitfilter.noagenda bullshitfilter by the way everybody get this plug in for your Firefox. It's amazing when you see the names of the innocent change right before your very eyes. So Ted Rumsfeld is on the show and the topic of corruption comes up and I'm just floored by what he says. I'm floored by what he says. I was going to say and this is not, he did this on about five different shows. Right, right, this is not the first time we did it but this is a good one because with O'Reilly and O'Reilly's asking, what? Really? What? Are you kidding me? What do these guys prey on? Afghanistan? Obama doing the right thing?

1:06:23 I have a lot of confidence in Patrasche. I think he's a sensible man and a fine general officer. the reality is that country's gonna have to nation-build itself we can't nation-build another country. Give me odds of that happening everybody says the afghans just not gonna do that it's too corrupt too backward. Oh I hear that corrupt baloney listen is there a how many countries in the world are corrupt? So first of all that's not good what Karzai he's not corrupt. Baloney it's baloney. That's not corrupt and now he does the most unthinkable thing He's going to compare other countries corruption levels, their giving levels to the elites to Afghanistan. Most of them have corruption. Look at the United States. Thank you!

1:07:11 Look at the United States. He is pointing out that the United States government is corrupt. How many congressmen have been sent to Islamabad? Yeah, but it's nothing on a scale of Afghanistan. Well, listen. Look at you, Ted Rumsfeld. Look at how you brought in aspartame into the world to kill all the children. Look at how you... Ted Rumsfeld, you're the most corrupt guy in the world. How does this guy sleep at night? How does he sleep at night? The criticisms of Carsey I think are misplaced and I think it's been... You're a Carsey fan? You like him? I think it's been very unwise. He's been elected leader of that country. And O'Reilly, now O'Reilly's like, what? You got O'Reilly's befuddled by this. I know, he's like, I thought we were on the same side. What is going on? What are you talking about? It was a booted election. It was a rigged election. Oh come on. Oh come on!

1:07:58 Come on! That is a response. Middle sticks. So Tommy Rot, I tell you, this was not a corrupt election. What is it? It was an election. They had their own constitution. Just like us. You know, like our elections are always on the up and up. It's like there's never anything going on. Oh, gee. O'Reilly, are you crazy? and and i think you give me the decision on a sky course i do have to see how i think that is corrupt look at the hat in the cape how could it not be an honest guy this is why he's dressed in the hat that the hat in case you have been listening to show long enough is made of uh... calf fetuses skin

1:08:38 Remember we talked about that John? Oh yeah. So they take a calf out of the fetus, out of the womb, the fetus, so pre-birth, they skin it and that's what they make the guy's hat out of. How can a guy like that be okay? I mean, that's just... By the way, he should be going to Whole Foods wearing that hat. I was just gonna say, Mimi should get her one of those. I think the way he's been savaged by Holbrook and by General Jones and by Biden and other people's criticism, he is the president of that country. Yeah, are you nuts? Remember, we put him there. I mean, he was elected. We want him to succeed instead of running around. Well, I want to be in the casino. Oh my goodness. He even says it all this gambling in the casino. Oh my goodness Oh my goodness now listen. He drops a bomb here

1:09:25 that O'Reilly doesn't pick up on, or can barely pick up on, because we're out of time. Give me odds that the Taliban is defeated and we prevail in our country and a decent government is in. Give me odds. Close. 50-50? Maybe. The Taliban are determined, they're extremists, they're brutal. And they've got a sanctuary in Pakistan. Exactly. So, before we go on, do you hear what's happening here? Do you know why Rumsfeld is saying all this? Tell me. To get out of Afghanistan. Oh yeah, no. It's fixed. Afghanistan is fixed. We've got a good guy in there. He's got the fetus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's still working. Still working it. And then they're both like, and we gotta go to Pakistan. Of course he needs to bring up the Libya thing, but he didn't get to it in this clip. Now here comes the bomb. Chance, and we've given him a chance. We have absolutely given him ten years of American blood and treasure. You bet. Alright, Mexico today called around Obama, have a press conference. I tried to watch it, it put me to sleep.

CHAPTER 23 / 42 Discussion

Mexico Drug War, Felipe Calderon and Martial Law Proposal

During a press conference with President Obama, Mexican President Felipe Calderón discussed the ongoing violence involving drug cartels. Bill O'Reilly and Donald Rumsfeld suggested that Calderón should declare martial law to allow the military to handle the cartels, citing Colombia's past success against the FARC as a model.

mexico· felipe calderon· drug cartels· martial law· border security· colombia

1:10:21 I think Mexico is the next big story. I think Calderón should declare martial law and let the military deal with the drug cartels. 35,000 dead down there. he doesn't seem to get it and neither of them seem to get it. Am I wrong? The idea of a 2,000 mile border with the United States and a dysfunctional country is a terribly dangerous thing. Now why is that John? Why is it a terribly dangerous thing? And O'Reilly agrees. Why is it... Well it's not dangerous the northern... the northern border is at least as long or longer, it's longer. But why are they... And that's not a dangerous thing. Why is it a dangerous thing? I don't get it.

1:10:59 Well, he, I don't know. It's not really a dangerous thing except for the fact that there's a civil war brewing in Mexico. But having a fence is a dangerous thing? I don't understand, I mean, I don't give a crap. The whole thing's a danger, I don't know. I'm looking at the Rumsfeld, apparently it's a big story. Rumsfeld didn't get the big money. Tommy Franks apparently is going to get five million. Other people are getting millions. Apparently Rumsfeld is in the six figures. So the wow so it like maybe 750 or something or maybe 500 which sounds like it bomb deal Well, the guy's a billionaire, but they probably he is probably worked by this So they probably put all these little you got to do this You got to do that because we don't think your books gonna do very well and make him go on the road to get his 500,000 back right? Well, there's more I'm sorry. I should have clipped out them the Mexico stuff, but he comes back to To Karzai in an interesting way. It's what I think

1:11:52 On the other hand, there's an optimistic side. No, come on. Yes, in the year 2000, I'll give it to you, in the year 2000, Colombia, the FARC, we won there, but they had a charismatic leader who was willing to go in. I'm coming to that. Yeah, we don't have time for the whole thing. Well, but Uribe did a whale of a job down there. He did. And we called our own. Why doesn't he just declare martial law and let the army take care of the cartels? That's the solution to his problem. They've had a series of leaders in that country that have been- Terrific. Like Carzan. Come on. You don't know that. I know, we got pretty good information. No, it's maybe someone in his family. Oh, whoa, whoa, like his brother? Maybe someone in his family. You know this Rumsfeld, he's a war criminal. It's a total dick bar.

CHAPTER 24 / 42 Discussion

Twitter Dick Bar, CEO Dick Costolo and Promoted Tweets

Twitter users have dubbed a new trending bar in the mobile app the "Dick Bar," named after CEO Dick Costolo. The feature, which displays promoted tweets and trending topics like Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga, has been widely criticized by users as intrusive advertising. The hosts note the version number of the update is 3.3.

twitter· dick costolo· dick bar· advertising· hashtags· user interface

1:12:44 that's what he is a dick bar whatever that is it's oh you don't know you don't know about the dick bar no oh the dick bar is trending oh you haven't heard this oh this is funny so then you know the new ceo of twitter his name is dick uh what's his name look it up dick something rather so they released a new version of the twitter uh app which by the way a version 3.3 i might point out just little magic number for you and what it does now is at the top It has a bar which is the trending bar. It folds down over what you're reading to show- Dick Costello? Yes, Dick Costello. No, Dick Costolo. Yeah, Costolo. Whatever. Dick. So it's- now do a search for Dick Bar. So- Dick Bar? Dick Bar, B-A-R. So this bar folds down, it's the trending bar and of course it's always like Charlie Sheen, you know, Bieber, Gaga. And everyone hates it.

1:13:42 You know, because these are the promoted tweets. It's an advertising play. So this thing hasn't been dubbed the Dick Bar. Can you imagine a CEO and they release this because he promised all these great features. I'm like, this sucks! It totally blows. People are like restoring their... I still use version one. I don't like these new versions. Right. So it's the Dick Bar. Okay. I like it. I think it's funny. I should have known this. Well, you'd think. Yeah, well you know, that's how I find out a lot of stuff. By listening to me. People tell me. I was, um...

CHAPTER 25 / 42 Discussion

Valerie Jarrett Influence, West Wing Week and Presidential Handling

Observations from the "West Wing Week" video series show Valerie Jarrett constantly at President Obama's side, including on Air Force One and at official dais events. The hosts describe her as his "handler" and a former "slumlord from Chicago." They question why an advisor has such high-profile proximity to the President compared to elected officials.

valerie jarrett· barack obama· west wing week· white house· chicago· slumlord

1:14:18 I watched the West Wing Week again. Uh oh. Yeah, yeah. The title of it was Green Eggs and Governors. You're gonna want to know why. I know why, because Seuss had his 150th birthday or something, even though he's dead. Right, exactly. Which is, I mean, if you want to trip some kids out, you know, and these are all like five, six year olds, you know, read them some Dr. Seuss. I mean, it's like, whoa. Psychedelia stuff. But when you look at this video of the West Wing Week, wherever the president goes, you know who's walking right next to him with that arrogant head? Valerie Jarrett.

1:14:56 Everywhere he goes, she is next to him. On the plane, she's sitting next to him. I literally saw, there was a dais and it was... Did they have an affair? No, I don't know. She's his handler. She does everything. There's the president in the middle, Vice President O'Biden on the right, and on the left, Valerie Jarrett. She's not an official. She's, you know, the president's most trusted advisor. Slumlord from Chicago. I'm getting real sick of seeing her around and I think someone should call her on this. This is, you know, it's okay if you're the president's advisor but you can't be sitting on the dais. What's she doing footsies and you know like communicating and whispering to him what to say? No one questions this. I know you're the only one. And I'm sick of it. It really sickens me. This woman's face sickens me. It's sickening. Sickening, sickening, sickening. Pet peeve. Play it.

CHAPTER 26 / 42 Discussion

Germs on Planes, Box Cutters at JFK Airport

The Today Show aired a segment about germs on airplanes, which the hosts view as a "planes bad" meme. Simultaneously, a passenger successfully carried box cutters onto a JetBlue flight at JFK airport. The TSA's failure to detect the items resulted in remedial training for screeners, though the hosts suspect the incident may have been a "plant" to justify increased security.

today show· germs· tsa· jfk airport· jetblue· box cutters

1:15:58 yeah I have before we get to our bird donation thing I ran into oh yeah I'm not getting there so I have a there was a very funny bringing back to you know one of our classic memes the trains good planes bad oh everybody I'm glad did you said that trains good planes bad Woo-hoo! Yeah, there's a lot going on with trains and planes. Well, this is my favorite one. This is the end of a segment on the Today Show, and then there's the teaser, and then I'll explain what they actually did. I didn't record the whole thing, I just have the teaser, but you'll get a clue if you play this. If you play, you can catch the series premiere of America's Next Great Restaurant. It's this Sunday, 8, 7 central, right here on Where Bob?

1:16:43 NBC. Up next, the precautions you should take to avoid picking up germs on your next flight. But first, this is today's NBC. Thanks so much. So they bring... Yeah, no, I saw this. I saw this. So they bring in this expert about germs on the plane. Germs on the plane! Remember the bed bug story? The bed bugs on the plane? Yeah. Oh yeah. Now it's... But what I thought was great about this, the set were two plane seats that lower and the other woman sat in and a couple other plane, there were plane seats, there were prop plane seats. They were sitting in these things talking about all the germs that are all over these seats and if you lift the thing you're gonna get germs. Germs, germs. I know. Meanwhile a man was able to take a pair of box cutters onto a jet blue plane at JFK. Now

1:17:36 Of all the things that TSA should not be letting through, I'd have to say box cutters pretty high. Since the last time terrorists had box cutters, they brought down not one, not two, but three buildings in free fall speed. So how did they find the box cutters after the fact? Uh, well, that's a good... well, it's a plant. I think how they found it is... It's a plant! It's an obvious plant. We need more security. Hill and Knowlton released a press release. The box cutters fell out of the passenger's carry-on luggage as he was stowing it in an overhead compartment on flight 837 to Santiago. What a coincidence! Yeah. How much stuff falls out of your storage, you know, your carry-on luggage ever? Let me think. And why would it be the box cutters? Let me think.

1:18:24 Zero. Police evacuated the flight and questioned the passenger who said he used the box- Well that must have been inconvenient. Who said that he used the box cutters for his work and had forgotten to take them out of his bag. What's his job? Uh, let me see if it says here. Uh, it doesn't. Three screeners will be disciplined and sent for remedial training for failing to spot the box cutters. Are you shitting me? Disciplined? How about we, you know, if you really buy into the whole thing about 9-11, then they should be drawn and quartered and hung in public. They've endangered perhaps the lives of thousands. Heh. Remedial training. Nah.

CHAPTER 27 / 42 Discussion

Janet Napolitano Testimony, Domestic Nuclear Detection and Secured Cities

Janet Napolitano testified before Congress regarding the Department of Homeland Security budget, specifically discussing the Domestic Nuclear Detection Office (DNDO). The testimony touched on "securing the cities" and the development of portable human detectors for nuclear material. The hosts criticize the push for more surveillance technology in urban environments.

janet napolitano· homeland security· dndo· nuclear detection· c-span· budget

1:19:12 And while we're on that, we can't fail to mention, because now everyone's talking about it, these documents that have surfaced that Homeland Security was looking into covert body scans You read about these documents in two Johns is even a USA Today now, please tell me tell me you read about this Well, I have a clip. Well, I made the mistake of listening to two or three versions I mean because I guess she came back to it a couple of times of Napolitano Talking before Congress Oh Lucy Lucy's up there and by the way, she also did a shut up slave thing, which I have as a clip I'll play later but

1:19:55 that issue came up with one of the pandering horrible stuff women uh... congresspeople uh... it she can imagine in passing about and it's all of it did this testimony involves securing the is all about the budget right you know how they need more money And this is about... So wait a minute, so you watched this on C-SPAN, did you not? Yeah, C-SPAN. Oh my, this is a long one too, because I watched... I gave up on this one hoping, because I watched the Clinton thing last week, two and a half hours. Yeah, well... And I started with Napolitano, and I was just like... I wanted to go hang... I wanted to literally jump in the bathtub and pull in the toaster.

1:20:30 Yeah, I figured I had to make it up. Good job. You tolerated that Clinton thing which I couldn't take. Yeah, all right. So you got some Lucy clips. I got a couple Lucy things. Securing the cities is one of them and this one here I didn't know this was even going on and she also mentions the portable, the woman, the Congresswoman thinks it's a great idea that they have these portable units so they can just basically be checking us as we're walking down the street. This is Viper. The Viper stuff right I guess never mentioned Viper. We got cool acronyms. We're Viper We're here to scan you slave or changes needed to effectuate that fabulous and just in closing Did she just say fabulous fabulous? Fabulous Lucy

1:21:13 I love your answer! Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We don't want to secure our borders because a fence is a bad idea, but we want to secure our cities with human portable detectors? Wow. Oh my goodness. Share that with us please. Share that. Yes, the budget for DNDO would... What is DNDO? I have to look it up. It's some... Don't know, don't observe?

1:22:04 DND we got to know this before we get Domestic nuclear detection office Oh nukes DnD. Oh yeah nukes. Oh of course remember wag the dog suitcase nuke Suitcase nuke nukes dnd. Oh see something say something whoo suitcase nukes. Domestic nuclear detection. Yes, the budget for DNDO would affect both of those things and as I noted in my opening statement, we have asked for money in the FY12 budget to not only continue securing the cities but to add to it. The time that generally has expired would add that within the CR, securing the cities is protected. I believe we can discuss that. I've discussed that with the Secretary before and we will

1:22:57 uh... yes i was referring to the detect the other detectives and we expect to see our uh... but but it is true that in the f y twelve budget securing the city's a sustained and we want to add another city to it yes i want to say that uh... we got a domestic nuclear they want to add another city and cities are secured as well as scarce christina just got a dash i told i did you know that i had my share of that jaydevati pushing I just, you know, it's revolting. And I did, I watched, I tuned out when I heard her say Something to be effective. Well, you know, we could talk about that in there not an open forum. We have to do that in Mars a secure One that's the one you're talking about is this clip which is this is I found to be the most offensive thing I've ever heard and this is Pat Meehan a Republican a Republican mind you from Pennsylvania who is essentially dressed down by Napolitano and he did nothing he should have said look I'm

CHAPTER 28 / 42 Discussion

GAO Report Conflict, Janet Napolitano and Representative Pat Meehan

Representative Pat Meehan questioned Janet Napolitano about a GAO report highlighting a lack of coordination and technical capability in the U.S. bioterrorism response. Napolitano responded by criticizing the GAO for releasing "alleged vulnerabilities" in an unclassified format. The hosts characterize her response as a "shut up slave" tactic to avoid accountability.

janet napolitano· pat meehan· gao· bioterrorism· accountability· unclassified

1:23:55 supposed to be questioning you you're not supposed to be questioning me. Is this a shut up slaves? If you've got yes, if you've got a problem with the GAO report because they're saying too many things out of school, out of class, shut up. You talk to them. Yeah. Meanwhile she tells him to shut up and he just puts up with this guy should be voted out. Anybody who lives in Pennsylvania has this wimp as a congressman should be ashamed of themselves for voting him in office. Thank you gentlemen, the chair recognizes the gentleman from Pennsylvania, the chairman of this counterterrorism subcompany, Mr. Meehan, for three minutes. Thank you Mr. Chairman and thank you Madam Secretary for being with us here again for your extensive pre- Thank you for all your service!

1:24:36 operation uh... i've among many in washington in the last forty eight hours have been with those who have been uh... sort of dog earing most recent report from g a l uh... it was a pretty tough challenge in the g l general accounting accountability off accountability and other ones who do or the watchdogs yet those guys say hey this really sucks never said yeah it can the reports are like the press doesn't read them If they do, they don't report on them because they're compromised. That's important to know because not everyone lives in Gitmo Nation. Many parts of government, including in our own backyard here, as we all collectively look at the issue of homeland security, they were looking at overlap and fragmentation among government programs, but a particular area, the area of bioterrorism, and I

1:25:28 Mustard gas! Quote from the report, at least five departments, eight agencies and more than two dozen presidential appointees oversee 6.48 billion dollars related to bioterrorism. And if you go deeper into it, it says at one point, there's no broad integrated national strategy that encompasses all stakeholders with bio-defense responsibilities. This is on the front end. with respect to systematically identifying risk, assessing resources needed to address that risk, and then prioritizing and allocating the investment. So that goes to sort of our preparedness for an event. It then says that there's no national plan to coordinate federal, state, and local efforts following a bioterror event, and the United States lacks the technical and operational capabilities required for an adequate response.

1:26:26 that's a tough accusation for all of us who share a concern about this issue and I know you represent just okay no no let's just summarize what he just actually say He said, for one thing, we're spending $6.48 billion on a bunch of agencies that are involved in some way, shape or form in bioterrorism. That includes 12 specific czars or some sort of Obama appointees and they're not coordinated. Nobody knows what the other guys are doing. It's a waste of money. What can we do about it is what he's trying to ask her? Okay, one of the multiple agencies But this is a big challenge for all of us in government. How do we begin to look at this incredible problem? This is a canary in a coal mine in my mind

1:27:15 right now. How do we begin to look at the issue of a national strategy and get that focal point, go across the multiple agencies, but not only be better with our resources in terms of fiscally responsible, but deal with the issue of appropriate preparedness and response. Representative, well first of all... Ah, this is great. Representative, did you hear that John? When she really clenches up, and she's really pissed off. Representative, Mr. Representative. Alright, let me roll that back. Representative. If I might suggest something for the committee to consider and that is I don't think it's overall helpful for GAO reports that are allegedly pointing out alleged vulnerabilities to be put out in an unclassified format. I think that's a problem and I think I've referenced it several times. I would respectfully ask the Congress to really look at that.

1:28:11 but for obvious reasons. Secondly, the issue of bio... It ends there. She goes on and she never answers the question. But what she says is, you know, it's like you're meddling in my affairs, you're in my department. I don't think it's helpful for these alleged GAO reports with alleged allegations, allegations, not alleged, allegeds. Why is she using the word alleged? Is she worried about being sued? No, what she's saying is... I mean, that's what, you don't use the word, the only people that use the word alleged are journalists who who don't have all the facts and they say and they just talk about accusations and they use the word alleged that's what kind of cover themselves from being sued. What is she worried about? She's using it to call it a lie. She's saying it's alleged which means it's not based on truth. That's what she's saying. Yeah, that's what she's trying to do. But the fact of the matter is she told the guy to shut up slave. Yeah. You know what, before we move on to the next Lucy clip, let me bring another one of these biatches.

CHAPTER 29 / 42 Discussion

Kathleen Sebelius Medicare Budget, Double Counting Claims

Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius was questioned in Congress about "double counting" $500 billion in Medicare cuts. Critics argue the funds are being used both to extend the Medicare trust fund and to fund the Affordable Care Act. Sebelius maintained that the law does both, leading to a heated exchange over accounting practices.

kathleen sebelius· medicare· obamacare· affordable care act· budget· hhs

1:29:11 Kathleen Sebelius who is the treasurer, she's the secretary of health and human services and so we got, she's in Congress, it's all about the budget right? And so there's some guys and this guy I forget who it is, we'll probably get his name in a minute. He says wait a minute you are double counting because he also has the reports and it says she's cutting 500 billion and she's using it to save Medicare but in another budget item she's using the same five hundred billion to kickstart the Obama care program and he's saying that can't be you can't have it both ways and she gets befuddled and listen to her what her answer is and this guy is angry and of course you know the clock runs out like finally we get to some good meat then it's like you have 26 seconds left

1:30:08 And then she's just waiting there. I think she tried to run out the clock like it's basketball or something. She like tried to run it out and then, oh, time's up, on to the next question. Shut up everybody, who cares what she just said. But she's sweating on this one. It's great to see the video. So there is an issue here on the budget because your own actuary has said you can't double count. You can't count 500... They're attacking Medicare on the CR. When they're built, your law cut $500 billion in Medicare. Then you're also using the same $500 billion to what? Say you're funding health care. Your own actuary says you can't do both. So my simple question, I have 26 seconds left. What's the $500 billion cuts for? Preserving Medicare or funding health care law? Which is it?

1:31:04 Sir, the Affordable Care Act adds 12 years to the Medicare trust fund according to every actuary and the $500 billion represents a slowdown in the growth rate of Medicare over 10 years from what was projected at 8% to a growth rate of 6% So is it Medicare, is it using it to save Medicare or are you using it to fund health care reform? Which one? Both. Gentlemen, so you're double counting. I yield back my time. Both. Both. And she looks disheveled on this one too. Her glasses are off, her collar's open, you know, it's just... it's both. It can't work, I'm telling you. It's both. What happened to like doing it just like the American family according to our president? You know, we gotta do it. We ran up the credit card too much. We gotta do it just like the American families do it.

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Dan Quayle's Son, Janet Napolitano and President Quayle Gaffe

Representative Ben Quayle, son of former Vice President Dan Quayle, questioned Janet Napolitano about border security funding and detention beds. During the exchange, Napolitano accidentally referred to him as "President Quayle." The hosts note that the elder Quayle's company, Cerberus, is a major military contractor that stands to benefit from the funding discussed.

ben quayle· dan quayle· janet napolitano· cerberus· southwest border· gaffe

1:32:00 crazy this budgeting has been very very funny though all the double speak is just crazy these guys it's obvious that this budget is ridiculous I mean there's money just just being squandered so anyway so Dan Quayle's kid Dan Quayle who of course is the CEO and chairman of the what's the three-headed dog company I don't know it's the biggest following the biggest hedge fund they own all the military contractors Come on, what's the name of the three-headed dog that guards the gates to hell? I can't remember. Eh, come on. Three-headed dog guards...

1:32:41 Gates, Helldog Ventures, I have no idea. No, it's a big company, Cerberus. Yeah, there you go. Which owns a lot. Well anyway, so Dan Quayle, who's the former vice president's kid, is a congressman in Arizona and I just thought there was an interesting gap. See if you can spot it. He's grilling Napolitano on the same long, hearing. Well he's there just to make sure that his dad's companies get all their military funding. Come on, this is like billions of dollars involved. But she makes a very interesting flub here. See if you can spot it. You can stop the tape after you spot her or you can listen to the rest of her. Spot the flub. This is a Lucy flub. Right? Yeah. Spot the flub. Alright, here we go. Was that it?

1:33:25 from Arizona, Mr. Quayle is recognized for three minutes. Thank you Mr. Chairman and thank you Madam Secretary for coming here. There's been a lot of talk I think in this talk with the budget at 12. Just like dad, isn't he? About the CR that just went through the house. What is a CR? Uh, let's look it up. Congressional report? I think so, but let's make sure. I'll play while you're talking. It's gotta be a prudent. I'm playing. We'll be going through the Senate and coming back probably, but one of the focuses in both the media and here this afternoon has been what effects it's going to have on securing the southwest border. And I just wanted to kind of give a little lay of the land of how this CR is going because from my looking at it, it's going to be adding more border agents

1:34:11 I'm sorry, according to the chat room it's consumer reports. They're passing consumer reports through Congress. Not decreasing more borrower agents. It has increased funds for CBP by $147.9 million over what it was for fiscal year 10, which was an increase compared to what the administration fiscal year 11 request was. It also provides $550 million for fencing infrastructure. It's a continuing resolution. That's right and technology fifty seven point eight million dollars for ice to maintain new southwest border hires and No fewer than thirty three thousand four hundred detention this guy knows his he knows exactly what it is because his dad's company is like gonna be

1:34:54 providing a lot of these services do you see how much he knows about it? Yeah I know it's quite a bit and by the way you kind of stepped right on top of the real interesting one. Well hold on let me go back then. 33,000 beds? Oh my god I missed the magic number. And technology 57.8 million dollars for ICE to maintain new southwest border hires and no fewer than 33,400 detention beds. It also includes 60 million dollars for Operation Stone Gutter Garden, which is the same as fiscal year 10. Operation Stone Garden? The heck is that? Was it Stone Garden or Stone Gutter? Or Stone Garter?

1:35:33 I don't know. Now, in going forward with the CR and then also with the fiscal 12, what in terms of priorities do you think that we should be focusing on for the southwest border? Is it more technology, more Border Patrol agents? Which do you think is most important in that regard? Well, first of all, I think uh... there's a lot of uh... it's operation sound garden guys are crazy by the way she she's you might want to start her over because she's just stammers about that because she's blown away because you're like oh crap this this twerp this jabroni fiddle sticks just give me the money regard well first of all uh... i think uh... there's a lot of uh...

1:36:27 I really can't agree with the lay down you gave of the facts in terms of how they really affect funding for the southwest border and President Quayle will be glad to get with you after this hearing because time is precious but I think even Senator Quayle yesterday put out an article expressing concern about HR 1 and how it affects the... Did you miss the gaffe? I didn't hear it. Don't say anything, let me listen to it again. Precious, but I think even Senator Kyle yesterday put out an article expressing concern about HR 1 and how it affects... No, no, it's earlier.

1:37:09 The laydown you gave of the other facts in terms of how they really affect funding for the southwest border and President Quayle will be glad to get President Quayle President Quayle, that's good. That's a good one. That's a good one. I missed that that's pretty funny President Quayle, so that's a double gaffe Because he was a vice president not a president president. Well. You know what but this is because this is the hierarchy of uh... in he might as well be president quayle because he's royalty he's related to vice president dan quayle which is irrelevant that he was vice president the guy runs Cerberus which is the biggest company this is where lucy hopes to end up after she's done she's got to have a job and she's going to go right into one of the Cerberus companies this is this revolving door is exactly how it works uh...

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Lobbyists in Government, Listener Birthdays and 284 Club Donations

Despite campaign promises to exclude lobbyists from his administration, reports show over 130 top congressional staffers are former lobbyists. The hosts then transition to reading listener letters and birthday wishes, acknowledging donations from the "284 Club" and celebrating milestones for listeners like Chris Abraham and Brian Rogers.

lobbyists· barack obama· open secrets· birthdays· 284 club· donations

1:38:00 in fact uh... for we and we really need to start to the thanking some people about uh... you know for the giving levels but from the uh... shadow puppet theater department edges unbelievable reports came out uh... this week more than one hundred thirty top congressional staffers are former lobbyists and when you see this list which is uh... open secrets yeah what they were a whole lot of second stop the presses didn't know bomb a promise to get elected he made a promise to the public the entire the american public that this what he wasn't gonna hire a bunch of lobbyists in his administration is gonna hire professors and build it new stuff you can take that to the bank now he promised a lot of stuff but uh... you know why call him on it uh... because charlie sheen's got his corner going uh...

1:38:56 I don't want to talk about it. Go look at all the names in the show notes. Noagendershow.com or shutupslaves.com which is another place you can find us. We're going long today, buddy. Chad Edmonds in Rochester, New York. My name is Chad. I was born in 1984 and I'm turning 27 on Sunday, March 6. These facts mean I'm obliged to donate $111.11 towards Show 284 for the good karma. It's my first donation. Thank you very much, Chad. I'm a student. Read poor, but do not worry. I procured this extra bit of cash from the government and what a better way to use government currency than donating to no agenda after all as Mr. Curry will recognize. Money demands that you sell not

1:39:52 that you sell not your weakness to men's stupidity but your talent to the reason it demands that you buy not the shoddiest they offer but the best that money can find. What could that be from? Walked right into that one. Yes, thanks. Yeah, duh Chad Clevenger or Clevenger, but it's Clevenger Sterling, Virginia $111 11 cents my 60th birthday March 5th So I donate $111 11 cents in hopes of getting some good karma for the next year. Absolutely You've got karma

1:40:29 I'm proud to be a founding producer. Can't find the page by the way, we have a founding producers page, we gotta figure out where it is. Still a long way from knighthood but we'll continue to work on it. Never had cable or satellite, still an outdoor antenna by the way, your HDTV is best through direct outdoor antenna. I'm pretty sure we have... uh... no agenda stream dot com is a found that we have made sure that that was there on the new pay level that will check it out and report on it later i so i don't see span only watch the network news for weather reports as i get real news from the agenda of course thank you for all you do uh... dave cleavage clever and clever injure cleavage ur that's why i said cleavage ur it's it's there by the way it's the sustaining producers page and it's a it's right there and uh... his name was was named again cleavage ur

1:41:19 David Clevenger. Yeah, it's not on there. Let me just check. I don't see him on there. That's interesting Well, we'll get we'll get on that man for sure. That's hard to Modi Naperville, Illinois hundred eleven dollars eleven cents Chris Abraham Arlington, Virginia. My birthday is on March 8th I will be 41 and pausing my cross-country business trip adventure and heading back to Washington DC inside the beltway to be with my friends I consider no agenda and you cool kids part of the Chris Abraham family and so I am much obliged to my life is 33 and a third percent better with John C. DeVore I can add a great two times a week love some karma 33.3 percent is the exact number I believe you've got karma and finally Raymond Port $111 and those people by the way you might want to explain how this works out on the hundred eleven dollar donation first of all Raymond Port is he sent a whole email

1:42:19 that uh... interesting that that's not in the uh... in the spreadsheet here might be long is a big d is a big dsc fan and uh... uh... i hope to mop with a couple things uh... than that is why for before before you know what she was uh... a flight at the flight attendant on the k l m you know those price-fixing airlines who read about yet anyway thank you very much raymond appreciated who paul alvis in toronto ontario sixty six sixty six my second donation can i be deduced you've been t do you still all days all days

1:42:57 Paul Elvace and then Dean Dvorak in Strongsville, Ohio. Is he related? Is he related? Who knows, he could be. But he ridiculed me for not being able to pronounce the word Dvorak. $56. Richard Henderson, he was just joking of course, thinking I didn't get it. And then he had a day how to pronounce Dean. Right. Richard Henderson knew, this is a typical Dvorak so he must be related, Richard Henderson knew Westminster British Columbia Canada, hooray. Gentlemen I've only been listening to O. Jennifer a few weeks now, I was turned on to the show by a couple of friends who have previously donated Jeff Juniper and Justin Cohen. I love the show, I wish more people really paid attention to what was happening in the world. I'm stocking up on silver coins and shotgun shells for when it comes to

1:43:47 Right on. Right on. Justin called me out as a douchebag for not donating so here's my double nickels on the dime if you gentlemen can de-douche me. You've been de-douched. He also needs some karma, he's been trying to hire her. I could have done a double shot. I wasn't thinking clearly. I'm trying to hire a couple of decent tech writers at my work. 99% of these open-mouthed breathers can't spell or write for the life of them. Send me some decent people. Thanks again, the show is fantastic. I'm sure we've got some people here who listen to the show. You've got. Yeah, but they don't live in...

1:44:26 BC. In New Westminster, not minister. Sir Jay Gautier, Flint, Michigan in the morning curry, in the morning Dvorak. I'm sending double nickels on the dime because I've had a beef with John. On the last show I donated $111 to my birthday formula, which Adam will explain. And as for some karma, however, the karma was apparently bunk. What? John misread the name of my podcast so I've been duped into donating again to rectify this error. I've been Dvorak'd. Perhaps some more karma and a proper mention of my drunken podcast will make me feel better the zero cast. Hold on in in John's defense when he read the name of your podcast he was drunk. I wish. Zero cast podcast at gmail.com but that makes no sense. Well try. I think he's still drunk. The zero cast podcast. Figure it out. Google it. You've got karma.

1:45:22 and raymond comes in again with another fifty one fifty ninety dvd i think he he he gave us like to a box or something like that he and i was pay pal and the uh... appreciated the remains of the gas movement associate executive producer he's got the money alan bowser alan bows i'm sorry langley but not langley virginia langley british columbia high guys a few months back when john was reading out my note about distribution no agenda business cards he offhandedly so that my in trouble Offhandedly said that I should send him them adrift in bottles. I did well as luck would have it my daughter And I were walking around the back of a ship in the Caribbean when a wine bottle became empty with the fate like this I had no choice, but to insert a no agenda card and chuck it into the ocean

1:46:04 One more guaranteed listener coming up. Some dude on an island with no internet. What? If only I had a net connection. Matthew and Nicole, Brooklyn, New York. I'm donating to wish my friend Brian Rogers a happy birthday. Hopefully my one cent is enough to beat out my buddy Pete. who I know is also donating for Brian's birthday on the morning to you all, Matt Nicole. Which he didn't by the way. I didn't see Pete's donation. Andrew Schmidt, Atlas Pennsylvania, $50, James Riel, Brooklyn, New York, please mention Brian Rogers. Oh wait, there he is. Oh there it is, right. It says, I guess his name is Pete. James is now known as Pete.

1:46:45 Yeah, so he turned into a no agenda fan is always pretty much a good guy So Brian Rogers gets a call out. Do we have him on the list? Yes, we do Mark McLennan, Watertown, Connecticut. ITM John and Adam. Noah Jenner's my dose of reality in this world that's moving too fast. I want to ask Adam for his honesty. I like Adam for his honesty. I want to thank him for his honesty. And John, you're the voice of reason. Absolutely. You guys are the perfect balance. My wife Sue could really use some karma. All right. For a girl named Sue, here it comes. You've got karma. That's right. I like the fact that he realizes that I'm honest and you're just a voice of reason yeah which is not very entertaining. Sir Mike Westerfield $50 and Nichelle Moore another female listener thank you very much and Nightdale North Carolina $50 also thanks for everybody who donated we want to encourage people to join the 285 club and I would like to ask especially new listeners to jump right in and

1:47:41 give us a nice 285 and get into the executive producer suite with us. Thank you very much. First we gotta do the birthdays. Chad Edmonds turns 27 today. Happy birthday David Clevenger. Sixty is what he turned yesterday. We're happy to have you on board the No Agenda family. Chris Abrams, 41st birthday on March 8th. And Matthew Nicole and James, better known as Pete Reel, say happy birthday to Brian Rogers. And I would like to say happy birthday to my sister Willow Curry, a $5 a month donor, not a boner, to the No Agenda show up there in Italy. Her birthday was yesterday as well. Happy birthday from John, Adam, and all your friends here at No Agenda.

1:48:32 It's just a day out! And yeah, so John stepped on the birthday music, but... Well, I was just gonna say that noogeneration.com slash donators or slash NA and you can also get there if you can't get on the Dvorak.org site. Yeah, because you're blocked by Russians. Dvorak.org slash NA. You're blocked by the Chinese. I almost cut myself. You got your... Hold on. Yeah, okay. Let's see. Here we go. It's a new one. Robert Wiltshire and Vernon White. Please step forward. We've got an ironic situation today, John. Vernon White is a black knight, which I think is just poetic justice. White is black! That's right. The new white is black. Thanks to your giving levels, which have totaled up to $1,000 for the support of the No Agenda Show, the only way we can receive support is through your donations. We might be both! Sir Robert Wiltshire!

CHAPTER 32 / 42 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Robert Wiltshire and Vernon White

Robert Wiltshire and Vernon White are officially knighted for their $1,000 contributions to the show. The hosts discuss the custom signet rings being produced for the knights, which feature Latin inscriptions and can be used with ceiling wax. They reiterate that the show relies entirely on listener support to continue its analysis of C-SPAN and mainstream media.

knighthood· robert wiltshire· vernon white· signet rings· value-for-value· round table

1:47:41 give us a nice 285 and get into the executive producer suite with us. Thank you very much. First we gotta do the birthdays. Chad Edmonds turns 27 today. Happy birthday David Clevenger. Sixty is what he turned yesterday. We're happy to have you on board the No Agenda family. Chris Abrams, 41st birthday on March 8th. And Matthew Nicole and James, better known as Pete Reel, say happy birthday to Brian Rogers. And I would like to say happy birthday to my sister Willow Curry, a $5 a month donor, not a boner, to the No Agenda show up there in Italy. Her birthday was yesterday as well. Happy birthday from John, Adam, and all your friends here at No Agenda.

1:48:32 It's just a day out! And yeah, so John stepped on the birthday music, but... Well, I was just gonna say that noogeneration.com slash donators or slash NA and you can also get there if you can't get on the Dvorak.org site. Yeah, because you're blocked by Russians. Dvorak.org slash NA. You're blocked by the Chinese. I almost cut myself. You got your... Hold on. Yeah, okay. Let's see. Here we go. It's a new one. Robert Wiltshire and Vernon White. Please step forward. We've got an ironic situation today, John. Vernon White is a black knight, which I think is just poetic justice. White is black! That's right. The new white is black. Thanks to your giving levels, which have totaled up to $1,000 for the support of the No Agenda Show, the only way we can receive support is through your donations. We might be both! Sir Robert Wiltshire!

1:49:26 And Sir Vernon White, Black Knight, in the order of the Noah Jenner Round Table. Please head on over to the Round Table. Enjoy your hookers and blow. Or rent boys in Chardonnay, depending on what your preference is. We've got it all here. And the rings have been ordered, I'm reliably informed. Yeah, they'll be coming shortly. We should have them in everyone's hands by April. That's so awesome. I am personally very excited about this. The way it works is... and these are not cheap jack rings. We had saved money, set aside money to make... because we have a good number of nights. So everyone's gonna get one posthumously.

1:50:05 past nightly post nightly and uh... and they're they're good looking rings and uh... it's in uh... mirror the the the writing on it is a isn't it in the lord's reverse yes it's a signet ring so you can right and so it's a we have little insignia and then we have hidden in the mouth in latin is that the uh... i believe that's what it says right so we actually hit someone in the mouth it'll uh... write it you'll be able to everyone will be able to read uh... what it says if they also speak latin Um, you can also press it into candle wax and stuff. You know, you can mark your exes in tablets. Ceiling wax. We're gonna have ceiling wax. Actually, Eric is gonna enclose some ceiling wax. Really? That's gonna come with it? It's like a... Really? I think so. And so he's gonna... you take a candle, you drop a couple gobs on your envelope, then you punch your ring into that thing. Oh, nice. Nice.

1:50:56 was very cool and and please continue to support this program uh... this is the kind of giving little level we like to see so if you're a a boner not a donor consider stepping up to the plate is john said the two eighty five club is a pretty good deal uh... cuz something very exclusive and of course anyone who gets the official credits on the show can put that uh... and on the resume unlike hollywood the phonies in hollywood will actually vouch for you uh... and u uh... support the tedious and mind-numbing task that we and John did it again for you we watch all the C-SPAN to bring you the actual news that is really happening that of course the mainstream media has no time to report on because they're too busy tracking Charlie Sheen. So there's a lot of vaccine news that has been cropping up

CHAPTER 33 / 42 Discussion

Vaccine Industry Profits, Supreme Court Liability Ruling

The pharmaceutical industry is heavily promoting vaccines as a high-profit, low-liability business sector. A recent Supreme Court ruling protected vaccine manufacturers from being sued for damages. The hosts argue that mainstream media outlets, which are heavily funded by pharmaceutical advertising, are incapable of reporting objectively on the risks or corruption within the industry.

vaccines· pharmaceutical companies· supreme court· liability· johnson & johnson· pfizer

1:51:51 and i think it's a good another developing mean they're going to try to take another run at the public with uh... you know getting people vaccinated for all sorts of things for so i thought of course i i need to remind everybody that uh... we've been tracking this for several years in two thousand eight two thousand nine all the pharmaceutical companies uh... all the ceo's at all of the big analyst conferences these are the gp morgan and uh... even the goldman sachs they don't have a medical conference and it's basically to get people to in the uh... institutional investors to invest in the pharmaceutical company yes i want to add i think that you do brought about two years ago you did read from one of the powerpoint presentations of the from one of these companies talking about how they're gonna make so much money in this vaccine and it's going to be a banana i would like it to define that and do it again because i think a lot of our new listeners need to be you know cuz we're not full of crap here when we're talking about some of the study to things i will i will get the quote from the actual show where we talked about it uh... in two thousand nine or eight maybe with eight

1:52:49 With 2009 for sure, I'll get the actual show that we talked about it and I'll look at some of the newer reports but they were predicting billions of dollars and the reason why, there's a couple of reasons. One is the regulations for vaccines are almost non-existent. You don't really have to test it the way it is with medication. And there's no liability. well no the government has all governments around the world apparently have said oh you know we need the vaccines you know you and and in the united states the supreme court just ruled that you cannot sue the pharmaceutical company the supreme court ruled that so it's a you know they could be shooting you up with gasoline for all i care they could be water could be anything it doesn't matter they can't you can't sue them if it uh... if it hurts you

1:53:36 And of course, it's great because you're giving something to people who aren't sick. I mean, does it get any better than that, John? I mean, if you could give someone financial advice, you know, without people needing it. It's like, I've got no money. Well, you're going to take my financial advice anyway. Yeah, you're going to pay me. You're going to pay me for it. So they're giving medicines to people or whatever it is they put in there, formaldehyde and viruses. The people who don't need it. Now, if you watch television at all in these United States of Gitmo, Everything is sponsored by pharmaceutical companies. Everything. Now, they don't have... I've not seen a lot of television commercials for vaccinations, but I'm sure that's on the way. Of course, at the retail level, this is everywhere. Walgreens, you know, all the Rite Aid, everywhere. Come in, get your shot today. And it's not just flu shot, it's whooping cough, it's all kinds of vaccinations. At retail level, it's big. They're already out there, they're promoting it.

1:54:39 So the way that they get this into the thinking, they need to indoctrinate people. And they do this through PR companies. Of course one of them would be Hill and Knowlton. That's with the K, the Knowlton part. And they go to the same networks where they're advertising all their other stuff. And they say, hey, I think you should run this story. Now, John, let me ask you a question. If this program were sponsored by Johnson & Johnson or Pfizer and we're making millions of dollars rolling out their commercials and they say, hey, we've got this little study, this thing that's really important, this breaking news, it's a study, it's scientific, it's a study, it's science. Could you just do this story? What would we have to say?

1:55:23 yeah, gonna say yeah, well yeah, I guess so. We got no choice. We got no choice but to do it. So Aidy... Of course, you know, they like that. I mean, I had, you know, we... One of the things people who listen to the show long enough know that we're actually media people. We've been in the media one way, shape or form on various... levels eat boats both of the lowest rung of show business well is that i'm gonna say well show business is the is lost but when it comes in media in general we i think we have was good at chops as anybody and the fact of the matter is we know how to get out works in the and it does trickle down from occasionally with somebody else. You're not going to be, let's put it this way, you're working for NBC. NBC is owned by General Electric. Take ABC. ABC is a little better. ABC is owned by Disney.

1:56:12 ABC's ABC News the new president of ABC News this 41 year old kid whose sister happens to be special advisor to President Obama whose entire campaign was financed by insurance companies pharmaceutical companies and banks yeah go on John. The point is is that when the boss says you know, even when you're not being told by the boss to do something, it's apparent. You kind of know not to do it or I mean that's why you don't see, you know, breakout reports about corruption and General Electric or the stock is worthless or anything like that on any of the NBC stations. You might run into that listening to Dvorak Horowitz and because we've reported on some various newsletters have talked about General Electric not being the world's most secure company but

1:56:59 But you're never going to hear that on NBC because you're not going to, you don't want to get fired. These are high paying jobs and in a good environment and you're just not going to get good news because they can't afford to tell the stories. So, and these drug companies have taken over, the media has just bought in lock, stock and barrel because it's paying everybody's bills. Yeah, exactly. So if your bills are being paid by these guys, what are you going to do? Bite the hand that feeds you? No. Right. So now the way you make news is by offering a study. We've talked about this many times. If you have a study, it's a study. It's a study. It was done by a scientist. So the Compromised ABC News, I've just explained that connection to you, they come out with a report about vaccinations that from beginning, the whole report, you're like, oh my god, I've got to get my kid vaccinated. But at the very end,

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ABC News Vaccine Study, Leukemia and Brain Tumor Claims

ABC News aired a segment based on a study in the journal *Pediatrics* suggesting that childhood vaccines might reduce the risk of leukemia and brain tumors. The hosts deconstruct the report, noting that it relies on "exciting" headlines while admitting at the very end that a larger study is needed to prove the theory. They characterize the segment as a disguised advertisement for the vaccine industry.

abc news· pediatrics journal· leukemia· brain tumors· hepatitis b· mmr

1:57:53 They tell the truth and it's just a throwaway line and I'll not interrupt this two minute piece for once and when you hear the end it's just like oh brother I can't believe that they actually passed this off as news but of course no one hears anything beyond the headlines. Exciting news on the vaccine front researchers say. I'm sorry exciting I can't help myself. It's exciting. It's not just news. It's exciting. Yeah. Exciting news on the vaccine front. Childhood vaccinations may be reducing your child's risk for more than what they were created for. Five-year-old Jamie is struggling to breathe. He watches his respiratory rate change as his mother watches him.

1:58:44 No one likes to see a sick child struggle. Mom made sure Jamie had all his childhood vaccinations. I always felt that if we had the vaccinations that we should use them. The medical technology was there and there was no reason that I thought that it shouldn't be used. But vaccines have long been the topic of controversy, some parents fearing they can cause autism. Dr. James Orlowski, a vaccine proponent, says a new study published in the journal Pediatrics highlights a new potential good side effect of these shots. It's a very interesting study because what they've done is they've looked at

1:59:21 the possibility that vaccines actually might protect children against cancer. The study looked at a large number of kids with cancer at Baylor and the University of Texas and looked at their vaccination status. What they found was that certain vaccines indeed seemed to protect against the development of acute lymphocytic leukemia in children, which is the most count I can't I'm sorry I can't do it. I can't not interrupt this clip Do you hear what he's doing it went from it's gonna stop cancer to it seems it's interesting It could be common cancer in children also against medulloblastoma Which is the most common brain tumor in children and?

2:00:00 and then against non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Dr. Orlowski says the study found that children immunized against hepatitis B, polio, DTP, MMR, and HIV had lower odds of developing these cancers. So one of the questions has been will do vaccines help or hurt? Do they turn on the immune system, which would be beneficial? Or do they turn it off, which might not be beneficial? This study suggests that they do turn on the immune system and that with the turned on immune system that you're somewhat protected against the development of cancers. While common childhood vaccines wouldn't have prevented Jamie's pneumonia, mom is hopeful the study is right and the shots he got as a baby and toddler will keep him from landing in the hospital bed again.

2:00:46 Now, so there's one line, there's a tag here. So now we've, here's what we've seen, this sick kid who is unrelated, they even say it, well the kid has pneumonia, unrelated to any vaccine or anything, doesn't have cancer, he's just a coughing kid in a hospital bed with worried parents looking around. So that's just the whole window dressing. Then we have this guy who talks about this study that says, well very interesting, it seems that maybe, you know, somehow it could be related to, if I think, you know, this is like that drug commercial where it says it's thought to. Well listen to the tagline, a tag is coming up right now and this totally gives it away. Dr. Orlowski does say a larger study needs to be completed to further prove that theory.

2:01:30 So this is basically a half-baked theory turned into a package, a news package, and then presented to the public as a promotion vehicle for vaccines and to promote vaccines in general. This is the biggest crock of crap imaginable and you know here's a funny thing I was watching the and people I want to alert our movie websites network news was on last night on the in the channel and hd our b ended up watching the whole damn movie cuz it's it is one a it is one great film is very funny it's it's not but but they had this uh... most of it was about the ethics of the news and it was all i was so ethical and uh... although there was a there was some breakdown in here in there but the fact of the matter is uh... the

2:02:19 the ethics of the news doesn't exist and i didn't get people should watch this movie network news so they can just kinda laugh at some of the some of the concepts in there but the fact of the matter is this is the kind of crap that we're being fed by these networks it's it's ridiculous that this is like my will just be an advertisement it while i was an advertisement it was an advertisement it was an advertisement for flu uh... for uh... for vaccine shots And at the very end there's a little disclaimer that you know it's like okay you got to tag it with this you know is it well you know the doctor does say that more study is needed to actually prove this theory. Yeah because they got nothing. But essentially the message is take your shots don't get cancer. I mean that's the message and you know and people don't listen anymore and oh you're seeing these horrible images of the kid like coughing up blood

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Mandatory Vaccination Laws, Gates Foundation Investments

California has passed law AB 354 requiring all schoolchildren to be vaccinated against whooping cough, while Texas is considering similar mandates for meningitis. Simultaneously, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is investing $10 million in vaccine development, and the federal government has awarded $215 million to companies like Novavax for flu vaccine research.

whooping cough· california· meningitis· texas· bill gates· hhs

2:03:09 But it's not related to anything. I love the kid. It's disgusting. He coughed a little louder kid. So California law going to require all school children are vaccinated against whooping cough otherwise this is the Redlands school district or you'll not be allowed into school. Well that's been pretty common that shot. Yeah, but now it's law. I thought it was always law in California. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They've been sending kids home who don't have it, but now it's actually law, AB 354. The Redlands School District was up towards Big Bear, that direction. Proposed law would require meningitis vaccine for new college students. This is from the Star-Telegram, which is, where is that? Where's the Star-Telegram? Texas.

2:04:00 you know, so, I mean, so you might as well, they might as well, hey, you know, California and the whooping cough, we should bring that one in too, that would be good. Yeah, they might as well, I mean, let's face it. The Gates Foundation, Bill and Melinda, investing $10 million in the vaccine developer, because it's big business, and Bill knows that, he knows where the money is, and of course, the federal government has awarded $215 million to uh... nova vaccine and vaccinate ink develop flu vaccines for the u.s. department of health and human services you know that's the woman who i can't count she's the one delia says debilitating debilitating the belius so i got a look before the show ends we're getting near

CHAPTER 36 / 42 Discussion

Bradley Manning Existence Theory, WikiLeaks and Prison Treatment

The hosts discuss the reported mistreatment of Private Bradley Manning, including being forced to stand naked at attention in his cell. Adam Curry proposes a theory that Manning does not actually exist and is a "generic" character created for a psychological operation. They question the lack of interviews with family members or friends and the restricted access granted to his legal team.

bradley manning· wikileaks· pentagon· torture· psychological operations· david house

2:04:51 endpoint. No we're not. I found that there was a very distressing thing happened to this private Manning. Well can I just say, well okay I got a I got a theory on Manning. You go ahead with the distressing thing about Manning. Well play the clip and then you can give us a theory but this is kind of weird. Oops hold on a second I messed that up. uh... you want to six doing anyone explain to manning is that bad manning is the guy who supposedly leaked all those documents to wiki leaks that they have all you know apparently pick them up and i'll have a general computer that's floating around these i guess the army navy air force marines and the state department every place in between he saw the database took it and said that wiki leaks and now the guys in jail again issued in if they can

2:05:35 But I don't see that this really caused much of a problem, but everyone, you know, this is a big breach and so now they're basically torturing the guy. Finally here in Reporter Roulette, Chris Lawrence at the Pentagon with some of these new details about that Army private accused in the WikiLeaks conspiracy. And first, Chris, why did the Army add to the charges against Private Manning? Well, they say, Brooke, that it more accurately reflects what he is accused of. The big one that they added was aiding the enemy. Now, the military isn't defining the enemy, but if you look at it... Hold on a second. Stop it. Aiding the enemy. Basically this was done for the American public. So essentially what they've said is they're aiding, you know, the enemy is us. That's right! Essentially they've... We're now enemies. The military said that the American public, and by the way if you look at any, we've talked about this before, the American public has been turned into the enemy. Yeah. Of the, of I don't know who, I mean we're the enemy of who? Ourselves? Yes! We're the enemy and he was aiding us. Wait, wait, wait! I'm animizing myself. Yeah, aiding the enema.

2:06:38 Now, the military isn't defining the enemy, but if you look at the charges, it's saying he provided intelligence to the enemy by indirect means, which could lead one to think, okay, the enemy is the Iraqi or Afghan insurgents. No, you're so right, John. It's us. Who's the recipient of this information? I got it. I'm the enemy. I am an enemy of the state. He didn't directly hand the intel to them, but they're accusing him of putting it out there publicly knowing that the enemy could have access to it. Chris, I read reports today that Manning was stripped naked in his jail cell. His attorney is outraged. True?

2:07:16 Yeah, it is. The military admits that he was stripped down naked. Now just to be clear, he's already under this special watch in which he can only sleep in his underwear, so it's not like he's taking off all his clothes. this is a sexy report john, this is kind of turning me on. when this happened he was already down to his underwear but the last couple nights they even took that away from him and uh... for a brief time he had to uh... stand at attention uh... while he was naked uh... the military saying this was not punitive and a pentagon official today suggested it may have been done uh... to prevent him from hurting himself to protect him although it does beg the question if he's that mentally unstable Perhaps prison is not the right place for him as he awaits trial.

2:08:15 the guy does not ignore was seriously i like where where's the interviews with only that i could come down in this show where the interviews with his mom and dad where's his lover that he was uh... in the photoshop pictures of him in the in the gay pride parade where is the outrage what there's no one at a single person has been interviewed where's his mug shot it's fake the guy does not exist He's made up. He's a very generic looking guy. It's exactly like Wag the Dog where they made up the Woody Harrelson character was a made up guy, they got some kooks, some lame guy who unfortunately got killed before they could actually parade him out in front of the public but they just made it up in the database and gave him a name, Old Shoe.

2:08:55 And this is it, Bradley Manning does not exist until you show this guy to me and he says I am private Bradley Manning. I do not believe he exists. It's a fake setup and they're lying. And he's already down to his underwear. What do you know, jabroni? They're just reading off press releases from the Ministry of Truth. Bradley Manning does not exist. I just don't believe it. I don't believe it. It does beg to, I mean we also have the problem with Obama, who we never heard from his girlfriends in college. Well, Obama does exist and there's the two of them. But we know that he doesn't like women. You know what? Our media, our mainstream media goes after everybody and everything. How about Jared Lee Loeffner? David Lee Roth's brother, David Lee Loeffner.

2:09:49 We got all kinds of interviews from his school friends, we had Twitter accounts. Where is that on Bradley Manning? Where is the tweets from, you know, he doesn't deserve this, you know? Where is it? It's not because it doesn't exist. Now that I've said it, of course, they're going to start doing that. You know, the techno experts, Hillary Clinton's techno experts will have to get on that right away. I've tipped my hat to them. You know what I'm saying, John? Yeah, no, now that you mention it, I think you're nuts, but I think I'd like to see some evidence too. I mean, we're getting, I'm looking at the wiki page, Manning and his older sister, there's Crescent, Oklahoma, so he's got a sister, Bradley Manning, his wife, Brian Manning is his dad, his wife is Susan Fox, was born in 1953 in Haverford, West Wales.

2:10:38 father been in the United States Navy for five years his parents met when his father was stationed in Wales at Cawdor Barracks. How come those people aren't on television? Is there some kind of... here the chat room sending me a link here. Military harassing David House, Jane Hampshire for visiting Bradley Manning. It's all tweets. Yeah as a matter of fact anybody who tries to visit Bradley Manning is harassed no one gets to visit him except a lawyer And he doesn't get to visit him that much and so there's something screwy going, yeah well you know it's definitely not uh... definitely not what we don't see any you're right we do why isn't this guy was an extra extra in access hollywood got interviews with the manning and what has a bike curious mail once again i am outrage that my gay and lesbian brothers and sisters are not out demonstrating about this atrocity being uh... you can take a gay man and strip him of his clothes and put him is under where it's sexual harassment and make him stand in attention to this crazy

CHAPTER 37 / 42 Discussion

Magic Number 33 in Economic News

The number 33 is appearing frequently in economic headlines, which the hosts track as a potential code. Recent examples include a 33% increase in Chinese gasoline prices, a 33% jump in GM sales expectations, and U.S. jobless claims hitting a "33-month low." They suggest these specific figures are chosen for symbolic rather than purely statistical reasons.

magic numbers· 33· china· gasoline· jobless claims· gm

2:11:43 Well, there's a Bradley Manning Support Network formed by Mike Gogulski, a US citizen living in Slovakia. Raise money for man how convenient Some guy in Slovakia will set up a Setup over there. They'll never know I'm telling you until you prove to me Otherwise does anyone have like a birthday video or you know it does he have a Facebook page? That's really apparent that he has friends No, just saying Okay, let's do a couple of magic numbers here John before we get out of here So I already told you about Twitter's magic version. They just released with the dick bar version 3.3 and you know what that means we're tracking you now Chinese now pay 33% more for gasoline. Ah Mm-hmm. Oh, there's a lot of good business news. Here's one of my favorites GM expects sales to jump 33% despite new automobile tax

2:12:46 Reminder that we're seeing this number 33 as some kind of code Yeah, yeah, we're all going out and buying those great American cars and they rock and my favorite U.S. jobless claims fall to 33-month low. Please. Who are you trying to kid? Not 32 months or 34 months? No, 33. It's amazing how that happens. Couple of out there news stories. That's all stuff I'm tracking and working on. So of course we had... Last month it must have been 32-month lowers. That was not reportable. That's not important.

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NASA Satellite Failures, Climate Change and Mass Extinction Studies

Two NASA satellites intended to study climate change have failed to reach orbit after launching from Vandenberg Air Force Base. The hosts find the timing suspicious, suggesting the failures prevent data from being collected that might contradict man-made global warming theories. They also mock a new study in *Nature* claiming a "sixth mass extinction" has already begun.

nasa· vandenberg· climate change· mass extinction· nature journal· sea levels

2:13:25 So, uh, two failed NASA satellite mishaps with their... Yeah, right down from Vandenberg. Yeah, well, and they do it now at like 2 a.m., which is just the wrong time for me to get up and watch it. But you know, it fell into the ocean. They can't seem to get the climate change satellites up there. Yeah, don't you think that's an interesting coincidence? Yeah, I think that. Of all the satellites that have blown up and haven't really been able to work, it's the ones that were going to quote-unquote prove that climate change was man-made. That was the reason for this satellite. They don't want to launch it because it won't prove anything. right so it's like we try and we tried a coincidence yeah I just well do it again for it I think not now it's like you know what we really want to prove this to you guys you know jeez you know we got to prove this but NASA failed us! well it'll take another couple years to build one and get it all ready and up and going so until then just believe us please that's actually I did have some

2:14:28 I did have a little bit of... I'd had a little... yeah? I was gonna say, I think that satellite story is the funniest story of the week because it was just like an eye roller. Yeah, oh yeah. Study shows sixth mass extinction may have already started. Oh yeah? Yeah. A mass extinction? Yeah. Like everything on Earth? Yeah. Has an asteroid hit someplace? I mean what's happened? Is there a volcano? The greatest vol... Is Yellowstone blown? What happened? Well, let me tell you. A new study, remember that's how you get news, published in the most recent issue of the journal Nature, these are the guys who keep publishing all this stuff, states that the mass extinction has already started and John and

2:15:15 It's man-made! The theory comes from research done on the state of mammal species today. When man's exponential expansion began 500 years ago, mammal extinctions were rare. In the past five centuries, at least 80 of 5,570 mammal species have gone extinct. You know, this is subtle. This is very subtle. They do this a lot, but they'll slip it. Oh, there's no more tigers. Oh, the wolf is gone. Oh, this is, you know, it's very, very subtle. They slip this in and you barely hear it. But if you really start paying attention, then it's like they keep talking, oh well, oh there's another species, another species, oh well, let's go on. Just want to give you some more of this amazing stuff. The same people who told you that children would never see snow ever again, ever, ever, ever, they would only see snow on the internet. This is what they wrote in 2000. Climate change will wreak havoc on Britain's coastline by 2050.

2:16:12 And millions living near the coast are likely to be hit by rising sea levels. Erosion and storm surges warns a new study by the Joseph Roundtree Foundation. John, you know, we're idiots. We gotta start us some studies, man. Oh, we can do that. Yeah, but we always say we can, but we don't. I know, we're big talkers, no action. Yeah, because if we had the study show, we might actually get some press. we might actually get some ink what are you googling a study? Joseph Rowntree and just when you thought it was only happening in Gitmo Nation Great White North of course I'm talking about the water meters the the wireless water meters that are being installed up there something coming to your neck of the woods Johnny boy I already have

2:17:02 Have you heard the news? We're launching an exciting new program to replace all existing water meters with new automated ones. Why? Automated meters use the best available technology. Which means we'll no longer have to come out to read your meter. You'll get better customer service and know in detailed information about your daily water use. Including facts. It's exciting! John, are you excited? I'm just all worked up. So this is from the VSI Meter Services company. Whoa! Look into these guys. Oh my goodness. Links in the show notes at NoahJennerShow.com VSI Meter Services, they do all the smart grids, they do everything. And what I love so much is it's a full service company and they're working for SFPUC, that's who delivers your power, water utilities, right?

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Automated Water Meters, VSI Meter Services and Smart Grids

Cities are replacing traditional water meters with automated wireless versions that allow utilities to monitor usage in detail and shut off service remotely. VSI Meter Services is identified as a major contractor for these "smart grid" initiatives. The hosts express concern over the loss of privacy and encourage tech-savvy listeners to investigate ways to jam or hack the devices.

water meters· smart grid· vsi meter services· automation· surveillance· hacking

2:16:12 And millions living near the coast are likely to be hit by rising sea levels. Erosion and storm surges warns a new study by the Joseph Roundtree Foundation. John, you know, we're idiots. We gotta start us some studies, man. Oh, we can do that. Yeah, but we always say we can, but we don't. I know, we're big talkers, no action. Yeah, because if we had the study show, we might actually get some press. we might actually get some ink what are you googling a study? Joseph Rowntree and just when you thought it was only happening in Gitmo Nation Great White North of course I'm talking about the water meters the the wireless water meters that are being installed up there something coming to your neck of the woods Johnny boy I already have

2:17:02 Have you heard the news? We're launching an exciting new program to replace all existing water meters with new automated ones. Why? Automated meters use the best available technology. Which means we'll no longer have to come out to read your meter. You'll get better customer service and know in detailed information about your daily water use. Including facts. It's exciting! John, are you excited? I'm just all worked up. So this is from the VSI Meter Services company. Whoa! Look into these guys. Oh my goodness. Links in the show notes at NoahJennerShow.com VSI Meter Services, they do all the smart grids, they do everything. And what I love so much is it's a full service company and they're working for SFPUC, that's who delivers your power, water utilities, right?

2:17:55 Hello? We have a EBMUD. Oh, so maybe it's not you yet. So VSI, so listen from their website, VSI has managed all facets of credit and collections work from the entire notification process through termination and restoration. So these guys, so what's happened now is they've outsourced this to these goons, techno experts, and they will be collecting, they'll be showing up at your door, If you don't pay and if you are a bad slave, they just hit a button and click, your water turns off. Don't even have to send someone out to the house to turn it off. They just flip a switch and they're doing the same for smart grid technology, for electricity. This is it. This is the final clamp down, the final lock.

2:18:49 They've got you. Now what is, now I do think what's very cool is we have a lot of sysadmins and when you get one of these installed, hack that, hack that puppy. Let's, I mean, it's surely they're not thinking that the slaves are smart enough to hack into these boxes. You know, it's wireless so they're just, you know, we can jam the frequencies. There's all kinds of stuff we can do and we need to do it. We need to do it. This is, and it's mandatory. You can't get around it. You can't get around it. it's dreadful and look at the joseph roundtree foundation by the way that is all catchphrase i think is all i don't want to catch a cat with search demonstrate influence wow so this is a p r company well it's hard to say what they are but they have a lot of studies while and they're all about global governance and global warming seems to be the main thing while i was a climate change and disadvantage in the u k close to

CHAPTER 40 / 42 Discussion

GE QuietCare Senior Monitoring, Intel Identity Protection Technology

GE and Intel have partnered to create "QuietCare," a system of motion sensors for senior living communities that monitors resident behavior for "significant changes." The hosts view this as an intrusive surveillance tool for the elderly. Additionally, Intel is building "Identity Protection Technology" into its chips, which is linked to its recent acquisition of McAfee.

ge· intel· quietcare· senior monitoring· mcafee· identity protection

2:19:48 the impact of global economic downturn on poverty, globalization, UK poverty in communities, global influences on the cost of minimum standard, unintended consequences, blah blah blah blah. Who funds them? Who pays for them? I haven't figured that out yet. Probably the Gates Foundation, who knows? So I got one more really funny one. So GE and Intel, two of our favorite companies, have teamed up to create something known as GE Quiet Care. John, now this is more for you because this GE QuietCare is going to improve caregiver attentiveness and resident independence. So when you're in an old folks home,

2:20:33 You gotta see careinnovations.com. You gotta see this poor sweet grandmother on the homepage. She's smiling like, GE QuietCare is going to take care of me. So, you know, of course we've had this big debate recently and I think, who was it, was it Rooney? Mickey Rooney who's like pissed off and oh yeah Mickey Rooney suppose he's being battered by some Because you know the old people get bossed around and beat up by these you know that they criminals criminals beating up our old people in all you know we're the only society doesn't respect old people and So they've got this system

2:21:13 You could be assured because you know Vivek Kundra is on the case. He's got this skip logic and it's all programmed with COBOL. Listen to how we're gonna take care of you when you're old and in the old folks home. This is great. Hello? Why is it not playing? There you go. Oh, this is weird. Motion sensors throughout the residence monitor resident activity. Data on resident activity is sent to the QuietCare server for software analysis to spot significant changes and behavioral trends.

2:21:52 Right. Alerts for potential emergencies are sent to the staff so they can respond promptly. Right. Hey, hey grandma! I don't like your behavioral trend. Get back into bed! This is unbelievable! Senior communities. GE QuietCare introduces a new dimension of proactive care to the elderly, to the elder care community. Proactive care is increasingly valuable method of senior monitoring that empowers caregivers to allow seniors to maintain their privacy And independence while helping senior communities enhance their success by helping caregivers to be informed about resident behavior Hey, stop screwing each other you old people. That's disgusting I'm telling you they can intervene faster. It's this is this is like so bad GE and Intel

2:22:51 I'm giving up on Intel chips. Oh shoot that goes my Mac. It's just unbelievable. It really is I'm blown away by this kind of stuff Aren't you it's pretty funny. It's these things are all bogus because they're you know they end up to cost too much No one's gonna use them, and they won't work right and you end up with just a start. It's a start It's the first step and it's the first step in nothing and Intel is doing some other nasty crap. What is this? IPT, have you heard about this? Identity Protection Technology that's going to be built into all their chips? That's interesting because that goes back a ways. There was what was it, I can't remember the name of it, it wasn't secure computing but there was some catchphrase for some sort of new kind of computing that would be protected from viruses and all these other things. It's a one-time password.

2:23:46 One time password is not a new idea either that's first showed up in the late 90s and but that's probably got something to do with the reason they bought McAfee I'm baffled by what Intel's up to because they bought McAfee it doesn't make any sense to me and you know I think they've lost their I mean they make these great chips I don't know why they just don't concentrate on that. Well, they gotta have the Gitmo thing going on. I guess somebody must be making them do it. so i have one last clip of the i think we put it off if you want now will do it will do is it's jay bush when i did just the post office i've been to while i was listening to see spen also listen to the post office hearings and apparently the post offices being there's a there's a group of people called the uh... did like the apparently the government has an h are division that that that scams all the other agents are not

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Office of Personnel Management, Postal Service Pension Overpayments

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is accused of overcharging the U.S. Postal Service by tens of billions of dollars for pension obligations. Congress has had to intervene multiple times to correct OPM's "exaggerated" inflation forecasts and attempts to shift military pension costs onto the USPS. The hosts argue the Post Office is being intentionally bankrupted through these accounting maneuvers.

opm· usps· postal service· pensions· accounting· congress

2:24:36 The government is one big human resource program, controlling all the human resources. yeah but this is one group called the office of personnel management to and they do everything and apparently what they've been doing is a bit did for example at the post office they've been trying they've been stealing postage money to make the post office take a beating so they have to get more money yeah and then they made the post office to make the post office pay in advance by the way the would oppose offices actually making billions of dollars but the government the government is decided to make them pay uh... there uh... retirement benefits for the next seventy five years in advance over the next ten years now they're broke so they're spending so every year there's they're doing seven and a half years of retirement benefits and they can make any money and the money's being stolen from a left and right

2:25:29 and so the whole post office thing is this big scam. Yeah, there you go. And so play the history of post office ripoffs which has more information and I just think people should be aware of this. I would also like to point out with respect to the suggestion that OPM is correct. That stands for other people's money. And their assertion that the overpayment does not exist. I just want to, for the benefit of the new members especially, I just want to sort of lay out the history here of OPM denying obligations and what the results have been. Going back to 2002, the Postal Service Pension Fund was found to be

2:26:13 overfunded by OPM by $78 billion and we in Congress had to go back in 2003 and tell OPM you've got to straighten this out. So there was an overpayment there of $78 billion. Then in 2003, OPM attempted to make the Postal Service pick up the responsibilities for military service pensions, obligations for Postal Service employees. So if they were in the service, they wanted the Post Office to pick up their pension credits that were due because of their military service. And we said that would not be right. So Congress rejected that attempt. In 2009, we found that OPM used an exaggerated 7% health care appreciation inflation forecast instead of the 5% that is the industry standard.

2:26:59 and that resulted in an overpayment of $13.2 billion by 2016. So we had to go back and we ordered OPM, cut that out, used the industry standard, and so OPM then went back and changed it. And now the Postal Service has been overcharged by $75 billion for its share of CSRS pensions for folks for their pension credits before they became USPS employees. People have to understand that. These are pension credits for folks before they went to work for the post office, but they've been overcharged and the post office is picking up the inflation for those costs. So there's a whole history here of the OPM. And look, anybody can make a mistake, but in every single case

2:27:47 OPM overcharged the post office by tens of billions of dollars. So that's the record we have here. Those are the facts. And, you know, there does seem to be a – oh, and by the way, the OPM wrote a rather gratuitous letter that they thought, by God, the post office should have to pre-fund their their health care obligations 100% pre-funded by 100% but if you look at what OPM is doing they pre-fund their obligations at 40% so you would think what's good for the goose is good for the gander but that's not the case so I just wanted to make those clarifications just for some of the newer members that are on board here Mr. Orlando in my remaining time before I run up the hill... So this opium business is pretty big in the postal system all kinds of opium

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Show Wrap-up, Corporate Work and Techno Expert Song

Adam Curry explains that he has been doing corporate work to supplement the show's income, which has delayed his "Daily Source Code" podcast. The hosts tease a future segment on "DC hookers" and thank the listeners for their support. The episode concludes with a remix song titled "Techno Expert" based on a previous segment.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· value-for-value· daily source code· dc hookers· techno expert

2:28:39 OPM. They're gonna send an opium around. So anyway, so the point is is that we're probably paying too much for postage. Duh! By a lot. Not winning. Not winning, duh. If you find this type of analysis and actual news that we bring you because what we do is we sit down and we are on the brink of death through boredom by watching this crap. You know, so you don't have to and we break it down for you and we do do a total of four to five hours a week of real analysis, real news. We can't cover everything and sometimes even we get duped.

2:29:17 Stick this in your ear. Dvorak.org slash N A Because we need your support. The more you fund, the more we can do, the less other work we have to do. I haven't been able to do a daily source code for weeks because I've had to pick up the slack on the donations with corporate work. Sucks. Not only do I hate giving up time because I'm also working on the noagentonewsnetwork.com. It's like into the middle of the night on that stuff. But it's also, it's annoying. Corporate work is annoying. It's not just that it's taking away time from doing the show, it's annoying.

2:30:00 And I disagree with your assertion that if we did a Tuesday show that Thursday would suck if we had enough time. Because there's certainly, I mean I have 10, 15 more stories that we can do that we'll never get to. I mean the DC hookers, I mean there's a whole bunch of stuff. Oh save that one for the next show. I didn't even get to the DC hookers. The DC hookers has got to be in the next show. Okay, well if I remember. I'll remind you. Okay. Hey remember we've got the techno expert song coming up right after the show and thank you all so much for listening. Thank you for your giving levels. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. I am the anarchist known as Adam Curry. And I'm White Dog from Northern Silicon Valley, John C. Dvorak. We'll talk again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.

2:30:52 Devorak.org slash N-A I have this group of young, you know, techno experts I'm from the techno expert team Techno experts I'm a techno expert Techno experts I'm from the techno expert team Young, you know, techno, techno, techno, techno, young, techno experts, young,

2:32:45 Techno Expertz