Episode 266 · Sunday, 2 January 2011

Dead Angry Birds

A massive iPhone software failure leaves the world oversleeping while mysterious avian die-offs and coded international death tolls signal a strange start to 2011.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 266

About this episode

Apple faces a wave of consumer frustration as a widespread software glitch in the iPhone 4 prevents non-recurring alarms from sounding on the first two days of 2011. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the fallout of this mobile failure while navigating severe Southern California rainstorms that have triggered mudslides in Riverside and property damage across Big Bear. The scale of the New Year's Eve fireworks in San Francisco also draws scrutiny, with allegations that outgoing Mayor Gavin Newsom exhausted the city budget before his transition to Sacramento.

Global health and safety reports take a bizarre turn as thousands of red-winged blackbirds fall from the sky in Beebe, Arkansas, prompting a federal hazmat response and skepticism toward official firework theories. In the United Kingdom, Health Secretary Andrew Lansley faces intense pressure over 39 swine flu deaths, while the Haitian Health Ministry reports a suspiciously specific cholera death toll of 3,333. Meanwhile, the synthetic stimulant Mephedrone is rapidly displacing MDMA in the Netherlands, and the smoking cessation drug Chantix is being repurposed by pharmaceutical consultants to treat Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder despite its known psychiatric side effects.

The episode captures a shift in the cultural zeitgeist through the lens of the documentary Star Suckers and the rise of Russian spy Anna Chapman as a commercial celebrity. John C. Dvorak recounts his meeting with Universal Life Church founder Kirby Hensley, while Adam Curry details his ban from Google AdSense following a dispute over click fraud. From the bankruptcy of Robert Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral to the 1949 technology predictions of RCA chairman David Sarnoff, the program bridges historical newsreels with the modern reality of corporate-sponsored public squares.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 266, New Year 2011 Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 266 of the No Agenda show on January 2, 2011. The hosts broadcast from their respective locations in Southern California and Northern Silicon Valley, welcoming listeners to the new year. They acknowledge the live chat room participants at noagendachat.net and discuss their early morning show preparation routines.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· silicon valley· 2011· podcast introduction

00:00 The women in Canada, because they're walking all the time have extremely pretty butts. Adam Curry, John C Devorah It's Sunday January 2nd 2011 Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 266 This is no agenda Uncovering Apple products product issues in the new year here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center and Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning I am still the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry, and coming to you from the future 2011 I'm in Northern Silicon Valley, and John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In the morning... Hey hey hey Happy New Year John! Hey happy new year to you and happy new year to all the ships at sea and boots on the ground Wings in the skies, foots in the ocean, hams on the air And human resources everywhere. Hey made another rhyme but not a haiku. And uh..in the morning to all of the human resources in the chatroom at noagendachat dot net

01:00 Where the where the party is always going on when we do the show live so there you go Happy New Year John and happy new year to you, and happy new year to all the ships at sea So here's what happens my new year the first the first Moment of the New Year were actually need an alarm to go off which of course is for Sunday For the show, you know I get up at 530 on show days Thursdays and Sundays so I have plenty of time to prep and review stuff There's probably about 300 stories. I go through it John has his own way of doing it And he spends an equal amount of time in other ways on the show

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Apple iPhone 2011 Alarm Clock Bug

A widespread software glitch in the Apple iPhone 4 prevents non-recurring alarms from sounding on January 1 and 2, 2011. One host describes oversleeping after his device failed to trigger, leading to a debate regarding the reliability of smartphones versus traditional battery-backed alarm clocks. The discussion highlights Apple's perceived corporate arrogance and the tendency for modern users to rely on mobile devices for timekeeping.

apple· iphone 4· ios bug· alarm clock· y2k11· tech failure

01:38 I just, like to get up really early and do it. And so...I'm in bed this morning and I'm like, have Mickey taken all the damn blankets again? Including the sheets! And then you start kind of awake and I'm like hey wait a minute why is it light outside?! And uh..so I twirl over grab my iPhone which have been using as a alarm for I don't know for long time years and its 745 what And the alarm did not go off. Okay, let's start with a simple question Why are you using your phone as an alarm clock? Because it is usually quite reliable The phone will adjust to time zones It has a very simple interface for the alarm settings and I like it! I've come to trust over many years I have been using my iPhone Does it make enough noise even wake you up? Oh yeah, oh yeah, its fantastic

02:37 And then Mickey has her alarm always and this is not a recurring alarm. I set it every single night, I don't trust the recurring alarm ever since that problem we had when there was like an iPhone problem where recurring alarms wouldn't work It was so not too long ago Yeah seems to be a lot of problems yeah but anyway so um I'd set it a fresh new alarm every single morning Mickey has hers on recurring alarm 8am everyday it didn't go off And she just restarted her phone set a new alarm. It still didn't go off maybe the function is dead It's the 2011 bug it's the xxx one bug let me see Has yeah, it looks like? You know how to use these phones blow me What do we even do I know if I know how to use these phones of course you do has anyone had that here in The chat room I bet you someone else had that must have been so what else must have had that problem and

03:36 But now is an iPhone 4 yes, I phone for with four dot to install. I guess although mine Mine is Jill Mickey's isn't jailbroken mine as jailbroken so that shouldn't make any difference It's weird though. Oh yeah, no it is weird What could change? I mean just a I don't know sense. I don't know it's a y211 bug Well, you know what? Let's see how long it takes for Apple not to admit there is a problem. This is what always kills me about those guys. It's like they never come out and say hey that sucked except for the antenna thing and that was only to blame other people having the same problem Maybe 2011 is the year we take Apple down a notch in their high-and-mighty holier than thou our shit don't stink position

04:28 They still make a damn nice phone. I mean, i'm not gonna say that but wow they are so super arrogant shut up slaves buy our phones Well, hmm. Yeah well you as the tech guru you should be looking into this oh You know the way I see it just got bugs what do yeah? What do you use for an alarm clock a thing that plugs in the wall and has batteries in it so in case the walls Circuitry goes out the batteries take over and the clock stays running And then it makes allowed ringing sound in the morning when it's set on You know, it's called an alarm clock. Now you're being pretty arrogant too! No I'm not just saying this is like the old technology sometimes the best technology...I would never in a million years trust my phone to be an alarm clock Well you do trust it to be your watch because you don't walk around with a watch anymore In fact you're quite proud of saying I use my phone to tell what time it is like everyone else who's modern

05:25 I've heard you say this on numerous occasions. And if i don't have my phone with me, which is quite common... ...I will go up to someone and say hey dude what time is it? Wow! So you can actually get the time... What's wrong with carrying the time around since when did that go out of fashion?! Because the time isn't being carried around You don't need to be a slave to time! I'm not a slave to time! I like knowing what time it is Why!? It makes me feel good Oh really? I feel so good knowing it's 915.

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Southern California Storms, Riverside Mudslides, Social Unrest

Severe rainstorms in Southern California caused significant property damage, including mudslides in Riverside and fallen trees in Big Bear. Local news coverage from KTLA featured minor incidents, such as a blown-over fence panel, which the hosts criticize as filler reporting. Concerns are raised about potential social volatility and future riots in Los Angeles as residents face environmental and economic pressures.

riverside· big bear· mudslides· ktla· southern california· civil unrest

06:03 The time went so slow in Big Bear when we were up there. It's like it's only three in the afternoon, and feels like six! Haven't you been back for a while since we talked about on the last show? Yeah! Why don't just move to big bear if you liked it so much?! We were laughing about that last...about your advice Oh whatever you do don't buy land there to be the end of the relationship You're probably right I'm talking about buying land and building on it. You can buy land Don't do anything. Just don't do it. Don't build anything. Don't build a house just buy land yeah, right no I got to build something to escape too because It doesn't feel good the world around us and Los Angeles is not gonna be a place to be that especially after all these horrendous

06:52 these the rain storms and oh I've got a terrible report. In fact, I want to play it. It's a terrible report of storm in Riverside because you had this wind blowing and the rain then those things sliding down the hill let's listen to the latest update from KTLA. From downtown Hemet where powerful gusts pushed over a tall palm tree high winds also blew on a wooden fence panel at home in Riverside thanks to Albert Gonzales for that photo. A whole panel from a fence Oh no! was blown out

07:31 I think they had a poor people down there how can you stand it? I think what happened there is we did have a lot of really bad stuff happening in the past week and so they slotted it in. So, like in the morning news okay at 18 past the hour were going to do a horrible storm update and they just didn't have anything for the slot. So, thank you Albert Gonzales for sending that picture in of the hole in the fence Because it was bad. I mean we had trees sliding down our hill And you know mudslides get pretty bad because of the fires and you know there's no Vegetation or brush so to speak of and then when that gets really rainy then it just starts sliding down imagine like a sandcastle on the beach We just keep pouring water on one side, and just it just all goes away

08:18 It is bad, but that's not the problem. I would say the people are the problem The people here who are going to go ape shit eventually just because they're completely slaves to the New World Order of Gitmo Nation West Peoples Republic of Southern California That's what I'm worried about How are they going to go apeshit? They're already sedated. Well, we've had riots here before. Yeah... no I don't know man. I think people are getting past the fluoride in the water and the barium in the skies at a certain point you know there's nothing can stop ya You're like a wild beast! So we went to uh.. The fireworks display over San Francisco

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

San Francisco New Year Fireworks, Gavin Newsom Budget

San Francisco hosted an unusually elaborate fireworks display for New Year's Eve, featuring two distinct finales. The scale of the event is attributed to outgoing Mayor Gavin Newsom allegedly exhausting the city budget before transitioning to his new role in Sacramento. The display drew a crowd of approximately 100,000 people.

san francisco· gavin newsom· fireworks· budget· new year's eve

09:01 How was that? It's interesting to see that around the world there are massive firework displays, but in the United States on New Year it is not the culture. Yeah you've got some... You know I would have agreed with that except for this particular display. It was probably the best display seen in my lifetime especially the best I've ever seen in San Francisco And it was, I couldn't figure it out. They actually had you know at the end of these things they have a finale? Yeah with the big crescendo and then yeah... They had two finales! Wait?! They did one finale which got this huge standing ovation from the hundred thousand people watching its and then they kept going in and they stayed there went for another five minutes and then had a second finale This is very bad initiative because then all sudden your wife wants that kind of action

09:54 So I couldn't figure out why this display was so interesting and different. And, I realized it was because of Gavin Newsom! This is the last time he's mayor. He's moving into Sacramento so he blew the budget! Yeah, we got some money over here. Let's add that in who cares I'm out of here well speaking of budget you know in 1987 I did New Year's Eve live from Times Square for MTV and this is when Times Square had hookers Drug pushers I mean Time Square was seedy and gaudy it was it was the old times it was awesome

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Times Square Commercialization, MTV 1987 Retrospective

A retrospective look at New Year's Eve in Times Square contrasts the "seedy" atmosphere of 1987 with the modern, corporate-sponsored environment. One host recalls working for MTV in a dangerous, pre-cleanup Manhattan guarded by armed security. The current celebration is criticized as a sterile television set dominated by brands like Nivea and Samsung rather than an authentic public gathering.

times square· mtv· manhattan· nivea· corporate sponsorship· new york city

10:30 at times where was time square and i actually had a bodyguard with uh... with a huge gun standing next to me and they had the uh... the camera up on one time square near it what it was cool it was cold but it was called was mean like uh... half-a-million also carry a firearm I didn't but my bodyguard did. Oh, I'm sorry he had the gun my bodyguard But it was not these days that area of Times Square cars are no longer allowed to drive there and it has like that Disneyland pavement you know and guys who come around scrape the gum up It's unbelievable its complete Disneyland

11:05 So in 87, it was going to 87 going to 88. It was an amazing experience and people from all over the world you know came in and just kind of like converged and convened on this one area Manhattan and watched this silly ass ball drop which by the way was basically like a marble like plunk okay there's no fireworks or nothing so I'm watching The New York Celebrations Hit the whole, everyone's wearing blue hats for Nivea. It's everyone's got Samsung phones The whole thing is one big corporate sponsored piece of crap It's like, this is... and it's like oh yeah we came from all over. We came from Poland we came from Norway it's all set up they've completely ruined New Year's Eve in Times Square and everyone's wearing these big foam blue hats with Nivea on it who apparently had some Facebook contest kiss-and-be kissed for their Nivea chapstick and it ruined it! It completely ruined it! It's not a celebration it's a set

12:08 It's a television set ruined, completely ruined. Well yeah well ever since they cleaned up Times Square it's you know used to be kind of dangerous I'd still walk there back in the late 80s I'd walk there at 2 in the morning just gotta have an attitude about ya You just got like you know walk the walk and then if some people go oh shh don't mess with him that how you did it back in the day These days she used to I used to make that similar walk and like you did for the same reason because it's kind of a kick But I would go down. You first you want to go down to eighth or ninth? Oh, I didn't write it Broadway because why lived on 47 if you get down 8th or 9th where its CD er Or you have to be well That's that's where you had the hookers crack pipes on the ground just step on them was terrible Yes, I hated when someone steps at my crack pipe

13:02 So anyway, yeah New York is a well you know it's Prince. It's a tourist town They finally got a clue Yeah, not too. It's not to is that for the all the weirdos I'd like to go floating around Times Square in the olden days That's when it was cool You just get there you get really hammered now? It's like if the whole everything in in the world has just becoming one big TV set One big studio maybe and there you go all the worlds of stage. I guess the prophecy comes true prophecies Not prophecy, what do you call it? Talking about prophecy. Yeah the prophecy that if we show up people will come and listen Well they don't appear on the holidays But I do have a prophecy clip Before i get to... We didn't get any executive producers this week Zero? Yeah zero so you and I are the executive producers of show number one for the year 2011 Okay

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda PR, Paperclip Knights, Coast to Coast AM Mention

The hosts review various listener-led public relations initiatives, including a website selling paperclip knight figurines and a proposed movie trailer featuring celebrity parodies. A listener known as "Wired Pig" successfully promoted the No Agenda show during a call-in segment on the radio program Coast to Coast AM. The show's inclusion alongside alternative media figures like Alex Jones is noted.

no agenda figures· coast to coast am· alex jones· wired pig· fan art

13:56 Do you want to do we have any did anyone help us out at all? Yeah, we got some it took better break. We'll tell you would discuss them Well, so if no associate executive producers either now we got nothing Oh, we wouldn't have an associate executive producer If you don't have any executive producers because the nature of the way this is that's true That's true well then let me Let me thank a few people who did some PR for us and then we'll get into your Into your clip okay sure first of all I want to thank Ryan who has no agenda figures calm Remember this is the guy who makes the paperclip figures. Oh, yeah right art is yeah It's art with that would get my nation jewelry

14:33 He has a knight figurine and anyway he says in the morning, it's the end of the month I'll be sending you some money. Not a huge success but i was able to pay for some Christmas presents this year and you guys get some money because of course he splits with us uh... and as we said is fifteen dollars and sixty five cents Ryan thank you very much and hope more people go to knowagendafigures dot com because I think your art is pretty cool uh... then and never dan from tip-top website yeah he came up with a really good idea and that he's in your dan is he's just the kind of guy who could actually make this happen he wants to do uh... uh... a movie about no agenda which i'm all for as long as we have to do anything

15:13 Do any work we don't want to do any work. We'll show up if there's like craft service our work consists of watching C-SPAN C-Squad. It's definitely not the easy, it's a hard job and it's particularly bad during this period when Congress is off because you don't have any of these congressmen. Yeah there are no jabronis although some of the forums are interesting that they have on but anyway before... Once in awhile but then you have to watch the whole thing I know, dreadful. So he says here's how the trailer would run and I did like this so first we have Kendra, do you know who Kendra is?

15:57 She's one of the Hugh Hefner girlfriends. Yeah yeah exactly Kendra and she has a reality show and so here's her quote you got these little quotes for the trailer I didn't know the money i texted to Haiti years ago still has not reached Haiti then we have Ellen, Ellen DeGeneres but I thought ask don't tell was repealed And then Pamela Anderson are you telling me that the guy our Secretary of Homeland is making money every single time The TSA sees me naked is he's got this whole idea really really set up well and i said what do you know the celebrities and he's like i'll get back to it so uh... how cool would that be i'd go for a job but we don't even in the actual movie just need the trailer yeah that's probably all it should be that they were just pretend like there's a movie coming two thousand yahoo well-paid perpetual moving kind of thing and then i want to give a big shout out to wired pig

16:52 uh... wired big got on coast to coast a m and promoted the show john but did you know that you want here i got a little clip of them uh... allen here so here we go with your prediction for two thousand eleven my prognostication is that um... development in america And the number of people that are going to be using alternative media, shows like Coast-to-Coast, Alex Jones, No Agenda as their primary source of media. That's tied in with people becoming more and more dissatisfied with the content that mainstream media is producing." There you go! Kind of a shitty quality but...that's cool I don't know about being lumped in with Alex Jones but at least we got our name mentioned there. That's pretty awesome

17:45 Well, I guess it's better being lumped in with the other guy. With the other guy? Also, I see one of our fans is opencafepress slash noagendashow dot com Yes, all that needs a little more work on the on the T-shirts But it's cool that yes basically one logo and everything known to man but you know I tried putting up one of those t-shirt shops and Years ago, and it's it's it's tedious. I know your works with cafe press and try to get your t-shirt shop started No no never kind of you know the fact that he's got that many things Up what? It was non trivial

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Alternative Media Commercialism, Infowars Sales Tactics

A critique of alternative media business models focuses on the frequent interruption of content to sell overpriced survival products. The hosts express disdain for programs that push gold, food seeds, and solar power gear at significant markups to their audience. They contrast this with their own "value-for-value" model, which avoids traditional commercial advertisements.

gold sales· survival gear· commercials· alternative media· monetization

18:28 Okay. Anyway, so we have no executive producers and no associate executive producers No members of the 266 club some nice PR initiatives And of course everyone else out there can do one thing to help This is always a good thing is propagate our formula Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth A big discussion in the chat room all of a sudden

19:08 about what? constantly selling you gold, selling you scary videos, selling you food seeds solar power things that are all overpriced. I'm not against solar power but look at the solutions for...I've looked at all this stuff Solutions for Science by $7000 worth of gear that you can get independently separately for two and a half just when there's a guest on it's getting good then he has to interrupt

19:54 for another commercial. Yeah, it's unconscionable and the fact that people think is good you know and they defend it as ridiculous It's a commercial enterprise you know? And its not helping...its not serving the listener to offer these crappy deals I mean these are basically out and out crappy deals. And i think he also steals stuff from us but that's okay. I doubt it. No, I think there is some listening going on. Do you know what? It's amazing we'll do like the thank you slaves video and then that shows up in all kinds of shows people listen That's cool. Yeah, well if they're listening and I giving us any money Well no they're like they want us to sell them crappy deals scam them you guys this is our audience yeah Oh, you guys are interested all I'd rather be scammed Scam me with the food a lifetime supply of donuts Donuts yes the lifetime supply of doughnuts it's one of the new scams yeah You get doughnuts in case that world ends you'll have doughnuts

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Mephedrone Synthetic Drug, Bath Salts, Ecstasy Market

Mephedrone, a synthetic stimulant often marketed as "bath salts," is reportedly displacing MDMA in the global ecstasy market, particularly in the Netherlands. The drug is linked to sassafras oil and affects the central nervous system. The hosts discuss the rise of these synthetic alternatives as a consequence of traditional drug prohibition.

mephedrone· bath salts· mdma· netherlands· synthetic drugs· sassafras

20:57 This is not a real thing you're setting up. Is it no I should it sounds like a winner It does sounds like a total winner is the honest and hot coffee when the art win Armageddon hits What are you gonna do for your family your family will need doughnuts now through this special one-time offer? We get you a lifetime supply of donuts Donuts also to be used as a flotation device donuts from Noah gender show calm Now instead how about I sell you some mephedrone? A lot of research on this bath salt thing that we talked about in the last show. So, I guess what it is is mephedrone is a synthetic drug but its being sold as a bath salt and I guess it functions like a bath salt but its gotten so bad with this mephedrone stuff that even in the Netherlands which is the capital of the ecstasy

21:49 capital of the world, there's almost no MDMA showing up in the ecstasy pills. It's all this methadrone stuff. Oh really? Yeah which I guess is made from sassafras oil and a couple other things Have a root beer instead A root beer? That's what Sassafras was originally Root Beer was a Sassafras drink Oh i didn't know that So this is apparently quite rampant, and it actually... Did you look up this? Did you do any research into the methadone where you just went, eh whatever and moved on. Well I looked at the breakdown of that crazy drug that you mentioned and it turns out to be all says in the Merck indexes CNS exciter or something like this apparently affects your central nervous system. Yeah exactly. So it does something! Apparently?! Kids are digging it

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Economic Despair, Youth Unemployment, Los Angeles Riots Prediction

Observations of crowds in San Francisco lead to a discussion on high youth unemployment and the lack of economic opportunity for the younger generation. The hosts predict that extreme social and economic imbalances will eventually lead to violent eruptions. They suggest that Los Angeles serves as a cultural bellwether, with unrest likely to start there before spreading to San Francisco.

unemployment· civil unrest· los angeles· san francisco· social inequality

22:38 Well, I think kids dig anything. But this is kind of the point though...I think this is what we're seeing is that you can outlaw marijuana, you can outlaw heroin and cocaine but eventually people just start drinking Drano! You can't outlaw everything. The illegalization of marijuana and the criminalization of everything else is poisoning people. They want drugs, they want drugs. Exactly! The society is ruining everybody...they need to get a little high to get through the day because of the...there's no jobs Because we're slaves! Slaves? To what?! That's the problem there are free slaves now and they got no work We went when we went to the fireworks display over in San Francisco

23:24 uh... you know it was just mostly kids to us but anyway, people in their twenties and late teens and there's a hundred thousand people all over the place. And they're bunch of punks and drunks and characters it was actually quite entertaining my wife says to me she says do you think any these people actually had any jobs? I said if half them did it would be a miracle And she says there's nothing for them to do, there is no work. Right so then how does that theory work? I guess it just we're so good...the government or the yeah the government The elites are so greedy that they know people need to get a buzz and they outlawed stuff they supply which is the heroin

24:17 So they can just make more money off of it. Is that the way I've got to see this? I don't know, i think there must be... All I know is that the situation is so unbalanced That its going to come to a head and its gonna be violent And it's going to happen in Los Angeles. I think probably first, yes it probably will yeah. I'm glad we're up here. Well Los Angeles... We've already decided especially in this family up here uh Los Angeles is the culture capital of the world so whatever happens in Los Angeles and people can deny it all they want but if you go in and out of LA if you live there you don't notice it so much but if you go in and out of there

24:57 uh... is you can really see it because the stuff you see going to allow this is interesting and ever so this before and then do two years later isn't san francisco everything comes a stems from l a m so l a is uh... in order to get an l a's bound to erupt so l is gonna erupt in rights than two years later is gonna happen in san francisco so that they have acted as if when did i think that i had not let them at the right now I think the rioting thing is going to cascade pretty quickly. It would be funny though, wait two years like how slow are these people? We were talking about the shantyx on the last show and of course there was like four variations for new commercials for Shantyx just around the New Year because that's their bonanza time everyone is like oh I have a resolution I'm going to give up smoking

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Chantix Side Effects, Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder (PGAD)

The smoking cessation drug Chantix is being studied for its potential to treat Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder (PGAD) in women. While the drug is notorious for severe psychiatric side effects, the Journal of Sexual Medicine reports it may reduce unrelenting physical arousal symptoms. The hosts discuss the "off-label" marketing industry where pharmaceutical consultants encourage doctors to prescribe drugs for unapproved uses.

chantix· pfizer· pgad· off-label marketing· sexual medicine· pharmaceutical industry

25:54 For four weeks now by the way for making it myself. Four weeks and counting, and it's still not a day that doesn't go by. That was already four weeks. You're well over 4 weeks. No, now its officially four weeks It was the 6th of December The date I'll always remember So it's like almost a month Okay Yeah, four weeks. It was Sunday the sixth...I mean how can I forget? Was is the fifth? No, it was Sunday the fifth Hey, I forget when it was the third and I'm like the president Like nine months. I don't know remember exactly the date you know because I didn't actually quit so a report came out in The Journal of sexual medicine that shantyx actually has a very positive effect now Shantics by the way for those who don't know get off the stuff if you're on it now get off It's going to kill you

26:43 Or you will kill someone else or you'll probably wake up naked in someone's yard and not remember how he got there. This is crazy stuff, crazy stuff! Just Google it and you'll see all the reports However it turns out that has interesting side effect It can actually reduce the symptoms of PGAD and PSAD Are you familiar with these two horrible diseases John? Seems unlikely Do you know that I'd be familiar? Let me give you a little report about PGAD. Los Angeles at rush hour, heat traffic and a woman with a spiky temper By the way this is going to explain a lot about what happens in traffic because i think there's a lot of people who have this issue women at least

27:35 Meet Jeannie. She's bursting to get home. I can't hear it. Oh, hold on a second you can't hear anything? I've got my volume turned way up on it and I can barely hear it. Alright alright I'm gonna blast ya out there. How does that work? A little better. Wanna push? Jeannie has a rare and perplexing condition that results in... Can you here now? Yeah! Okay Such as have just discovered. It's called persistent sexual arousal syndrome Make you more grumpy absolutely that makes my fuse very short Here before you were

28:17 Jeannie feels unrelenting physical arousal. But this is not about pleasure, far from it. Have you ever slammed a finger or thumb whatever in the door or some place and you've gotten it where its beet red and throbbing? It's the same sensation that the clitoris has got blood rushing and you have that same terrible throbbing so thats painful There's an insatiable beast down below that has been calling for 10 hours and it is now deafening. For some reason the sitting in traffic is worse

28:56 And I don't like being in the traffic, so it's a combination of me getting a slow burn here now Because I want to get moving and get on the way It's never going to be the most plausible excuse for a traffic violation But Jeannie is desperate to get home to masturbate or as she coyly puts it take care of business. I can't wait to get into house go to the bathroom and then Take care of myself so that I'll see you later So hold on a second This is a bunch of bullcrap now. Let's start over She can't if she's that crazy, which it sounds like and she sounds like in battle axe to be honest about it It's a video and it's in the show knows you should see her okay, right

29:47 Alright. Why doesn't she just hike up her dress while she's driving and take care of business as she likes to put it? While driving around, who is going to notice? Who cares! Okay so I took a look well for it's a little different John for men and women just in case you hadn't noticed when women have orgasm uh... see when men have an orgasm its all like everythings focused on the penis and three seconds ahead women have an orgasm like jello And they can't drive a vehicle? That'd be dangerous. You know what, you can learn! It's never too late So this persistent sexual arousal disorder or persistent genital arousal disorder apparently only happens with women although I disagree i think men have it all the time except we just don't have a name for it

30:42 uh... but that these women they'd date can sometimes orgasm a hundred times a day it's it's like you know cuz the stuff is rubbing against them there death to adapt to wear skirts but anyway at the good news is forget all that john shanty to the rescue it stops it it stops it however of course they'll go wacky from the shanties but that's the secondary but today this is so the journal sexual medicine has uh... done a study and turns out that shantics actually actually uh... can help it. And it's now being prescribed to women who have PGAD and PSAD so instead of having women who are just crazy about not be able take care business, we'll have women who are crazy and whacked out on shantix So its no really a win for us? It's not really a win for anybody! Not really a win...it's a win for the Shantix company. Its' a win for them Hey we found something else for that crack we made up You know with all these drugs they did

31:47 Pushing over the TV. They're always looking for a second there I mean that's not by a great actually off label is what they call it right off label use because it gets approved Yeah, yeah right other other bright awfully other uses that they can stumble upon and And hopefully get approved for because that's a second part of this you have to first you have to stumble upon it Wow look What else? It does it makes your grow gray hair and Would you like an endless supply of donuts? then they have to get it approved for that use which is a secondary, which is also process. Right well have you ever... I don't know how they're gonna push this one on television? Well we've never discussed this on the show but did they essentially do not need to push it on television This is there's a whole industry of off-label marketing by independent consultants who go to doctors. You are right. They go to doctors.. let me just tell the audience

32:42 at least that's what happening here in the United States is they go to doctors and say okay hey you know this shantix will help you stop smoking but for all those patients who have PGAD, PSID and we all know it rampant. You can subscribe this to them but of course they have to sign a little waiver and give them pre-printed waiver form until as whole secondary market opens up without television advertising But it's huge and you're right that's how Viagra was discovered. What was Viagra initially? Like some kind of blood pressure drug or something? Yeah, it was like a blood pressure or something for heart attacks to kill ya I don't know what... Just to kill ya! Don't worry we're from the government We are here to kill ya That is happening in Gitmo Nation East

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

UK Swine Flu Deaths, Vaccine Profitability, Wine Scams

Health Secretary Andrew Lansley faces pressure in the United Kingdom as swine flu deaths reach 39 for the season. The hosts question the persistence of the H1N1 strain and argue that pharmaceutical companies like GlaxoSmithKline prioritize vaccines over cures due to higher profit margins. A comparison is made to the "wine game," where low-quality products are sold with the promise of future improvement.

swine flu· h1n1· united kingdom· glaxosmithkline· vaccines· pharmaceutical profits

33:24 It's unbelievable. It is unbelievable we went through this last year are the human resources and slaves in the United Kingdom stupider than then the ones here? I can't believe that they are but the health secretary Andrew Lansley is now coming under pressure because millions more people need to be vaccinated to prevent a mounting death toll of swine flu amounting death so to let me ask you a question I think i may have asked this before two or three times but it seems to me that every seasonal flu that comes and goes comes and goes and kills if you people on the way and kill the few billion is a new flu the next year how come this one flew his persistent there were yet to explain this to me I've asked you in asking why not come up with an answer what am I like the flu expert I think well at this point

34:22 12 more deaths in the last week from flu doesn't even say H1N1 anymore. They're just saying flu bringing the total they're just gonna jumble it in with the record 30,000 a year that get killed from that thing bringing the total this winter John the total deaths in the United Kingdom What do you think? The total deaths are 70 39 Oh geez. Yes We have to vaccinate millions 36 of these 39 were killed by the H1N1 swine flu, which is factually incorrect. Most of these people die from pneumonia and other illnesses but not actually from the swine flu. I guess i should tell everyone once again that we did research on this two years ago and every single large pharmaceutical company in there you can look it up to all the smack so smith's line

35:14 GlaxoSmithKline, you can go to Johnson & Johnson. Look at their PowerPoints that they show to the investors it's on their websites and you'll see that they're all saying oh vaccines man vaccines is the bonanza They're predicting billions of dollars in revenue from vaccines because it's so much more profitable To shoot people up with something and tell them it's going to prevent an illness than it is from actually develop something that cures an illness Because that takes a long time to develop and research. Yeah, this reminds me of the wine game The wine game? Yeah the wine game you run in a wine store You have a bunch of crappy wine that you're trying to dump on the public And so you tell them no don't worry about it keep it five years is gonna be delicious So the wine is actually crap but you tell them to hold onto it yeah cool yeah It's a classic scam

36:04 I love it. Oh no, no! I know it tastes like crap... It's not really vinegar, it just is in a dumb face. It's aging and will be really good. We figure ten years from now its gonna be dynamite And who says this? The floor sales guy That's phenomenal. It's young, it will come into its own Give it some time, it's young You know as though every wine they're selling is Chateau Lafite Right It's like a joke Nice. A friend of mine worked at a wine store once and I was over there, this is years ago, he's looking at some wine and says this is the worst wine you've got up here why did you guys even buy it in the first place? And he says everything sells! Yeah unfortunately that's true

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The March of Time Newsreels, 1933 War Debt Anecdote

Turner Classic Movies recently aired "The March of Time," a series of newsreels from the 1930s and 40s produced by Time and Life magazines. One segment featured Moe Buxbaum, an American who attempted to pay a French traffic fine to the U.S. Treasury to offset France's unpaid World War I debts. The hosts reflect on the shift in public concern regarding national debt since 1933.

turner classic movies· the march of time· moe buxbaum· war debt· france· newsreels

36:57 So anyway, okay so I got it. So over the last side since there's nothing to watch on C-Span I gave you know I tried it do have one c-span clip but It was pretty few and far between so the Turner Classic Movies channel started playing series of old Time magazine called the March of Time. The March of Time! Where they all began with this, it was done in the 30s 40s and I think it dropped dead around 1955 or something like that 52 and they had all these every month they'd come out with a The March Of Time which was a...and if anybody can catch any of these even though they ran them yesterday

37:36 You should definitely watch them. They're hilarious they talk about teenage girls and what is like a historical perspective of no It was the newsreel uh-huh a newsreel with it with the strong as bent toward feature stories Okay, especially later The first ones were very much all news news news And then they started adding human interest story and they brought in life magazine said the editors of time Magazine in conjunction with the editors of life magazine bring you bro so it's ministry of truth is what it is. Oh, total propaganda beautiful propaganda as a matter of fact in fact to some examples I clipped a few I could have gone on for days with this only have a couple clips

38:14 But I, just to give you a feeling for this let's play a couple of clips and one of them is the... Let see we got Jobs career... Oh it says too funny. Max Mo Boxman in 1933 this guy named Mo Boxman i think you can look this up he went, he was in France and they did story was about how Americans go to France in the 30s I guess. To smoke cigarettes and drink cappuccinos There's a little element of that but mostly drive around too fast. And I don't know anybody who's gone to France enough, Americans driving around Europe too fast is not the problem i can assure you. This was a news report about how the French are upset that we're there driving too fast?

39:03 but this is retaliation for us racking on their women having armpit hair. So we're driving around too fast, so this one guy Moe Boxman got arrested and he protested the hundred franc fine which was six dollars and some ninety five cents at the time which was a lot in 1933 He went before the magistrate and made this proposition which then became big news apparently all over the place. And it was just the strangest story, you can play the clip of this is the... It began with a long intro and this is how it finished up

39:40 Monsieur Buxbaum, you say you will not pay your fine of 100 francs because France will not pay her war debt to America? That's right. But you offer to pay your fine of 100 francs to the United States Treasury To be applied against Francis unpaid war debt to your country? That's right. This is most unusual, but I think it is reasonable! In fact, I accept your proposition. In Washington at the U.S. Treasury it is revealed that in the foreign account ledger the last credit entry to France was made November 2nd 1933 when a Frenchman died in Massachusetts and willed $1,000 to be credited to his country's unpaid war debt

40:30 Moe Bucksbond, $6.60 will keep France's huge account active! Meanwhile, we're all so concerned about this debt. It was such a big deal that Moe Boxbaum or whatever his name is you know made the six dollar contribution via the US Treasury Department now We're like you know 200 to 300 trillion in debt nobody gives it crap. That's right Just a weird I thought it was a weird story very astute observation there John but besides that

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

David Sarnoff 1949 Technology Predictions

A 1949 recording of RCA chairman David Sarnoff accurately predicts the development of pocket-sized communication devices and wireless media. Sarnoff describes a future where individuals can communicate anywhere and newspapers are reproduced in the home via the air. The hosts express surprise at the precision of his vision regarding cell phones and tablets.

david sarnoff· rca· technology predictions· wireless internet· ipad· 1949

41:17 If it's 12 million, I don't care what it is. I want them frogs to pay up! No wonder they don't donate to this show They're all too worried we're gonna find him out Oh let's not do that on your agenda show because they will maybe find out that if you owe them so much money Yeah So, anyway the show had a number of highlights and one of them... there's two that I have here. One was a play from 1950, uh, I think for the beginning of 1950 this is probably recorded in 49 and this is David Sarnoff who just blathering on about the future

41:54 Let me guess, we'll all be in levitation devices by 2012. No no! That's the joke of it. It was like a jaw dropper because he nails He nails the wireless internet, cell phones and the iPad. Really? In 1949 if you deconstruct what he says just listen to it and you go holy shit this guy was really amazing! In the next half century people will see as well as hear around the world pocket-sized radio instruments will enable individuals to communicate with anyone anywhere newspapers magazines

42:33 Mail and messages will be sent through the air at lightning speed and reproduced in the home. I loved a little sting there at the end, yeah that's good! I was impressed 1949? Yeah that's quite good even the fact he is saying messages is even... Yeah and he said reproduce too you know it was those you know this what basically described a cell phone and iPad Not bad You got one more and then we can move on to some real news? Yeah, the last one was done in the 30s. And there's this guy who looked him up his name is Professor Houghton he was at Harvard and he had this dim view of everything and the guy was just a typical stuffy Harvard professor predicting gloom and doom

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Professor Ernest Hooton, Moronic Man Theory

Harvard anthropologist Ernest Albert Hooton argued in the mid-20th century that technological advancement was leading to the mental and physical regression of humanity. Hooton coined the term "mechanized and moronic man," suggesting that gadgets allow individuals with primitive mentalities to operate complex machinery. Adam Curry adopts "Moronic Man" as a new comedic moniker.

ernest hooton· harvard· anthropology· technology· moronic man· gadgets

43:24 you know i mean this is pre-global warming but it's a typical gloom and doom based on something else that even more funny so I did little research on the guy just as a as a prelude to listening the clip he wrote a bunch of books on this subject that he complains about one for example, one book is called man uh... think his or apes man in morons you know something like that. You can play this clip and see what im talking about among them is professor Ernest Albert Houghton of Harvard eminent anthropologist whose studies of the human race from the Stone Age to the present have left him totally unimpressed by recent technological advances and none too hopeful for prospects for happiness of a tottering biped known as man. It took millions of years for man to evolve from a super ape into a thinking animal but during the past 30,000 years of increasing gadgetry man has back slid mentally and physically

44:21 Technology perfects machines that even feeble minds can operate. The unintelligent user of gadgets still retains the mentality of primitive man, he resorts from moral support to mumbo-jumbo just as did his savage ancestors. Machines get better and better illogical beliefs persist mechanized and moronic man moves toward extinction any questions? Moronic Man I like that

44:56 Moronic man and he relies on mumbo jumbo primitive man yeah primitive man hey Betty where's my mumbo-jumbo I think i'm just gonna say that but I am the moranic moronic man known as Adam Curry that's my new moniker. Moronic man looking for a mumbo jumbo. The moronic man everybody here I am the million dollar moronic man so anyway that's what they used to teach at Harvard and probably still do Anyway, so there's a good series if anyone wants to catch it. There was some good There's a good one on teenage girls have to watch anymore not that you've played all of it on the show And then actually bet this is us just tip of the iceberg So let's move on to other pressing issues such as who will be the leader of the free world in 2012 as John Huntsman US ambassador to China Hinted this week he's considering a run at the presidency what?

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

Jon Huntsman Jr., Mormon White Horse Prophecy

U.S. Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman Jr. is rumored to be considering a 2012 presidential run, sparking a discussion on his Mormon faith. The hosts examine the "White Horse Prophecy," a belief attributed to Joseph Smith that a Mormon leader will save the U.S. Constitution when it "hangs by a thread." They note Glenn Beck's use of similar language on his program.

jon huntsman jr· glenn beck· mormonism· white horse prophecy· 2012 election· joseph smith

45:55 Yeah, doesn't he run a food company? Hunt's Food. Yes he is son of billionaire Hunt's Empire. Huntsman that's right well of course duh but the thing that he's a billionaire is not the interesting fact what's interesting as he's Mormon and a Mormon. Yeah, well so is Romney of course Right! Well Romney is also being pushed as a potential and I came across this article which comes from an extremely sketchy source but I liked it and its about something called the White Horse Prophecy Have you ever heard of the white horse prophecy? Im sure will now Okay The White Horse Prophecy

46:38 refers to a prediction made by Joseph Smith, Jr. in the late 1800s or mid-1800's who was founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints which is the right of the mormon to mourn in charge and was reported to have said at uh... time would come when the u s constitution would be hanging by a thread this is the keyword hanging by a threat anna church elder from zion that's the mormon church will ride in on a metaphorical white horse and save it and if you look at the encyclopedia of mormonism actually has uh... number things about this white horse prophecy

47:15 uh... and here's the kind of crackpot thing but i did like you know we like it when people notice stuff in the media as being code so apparently glenn beck not a mormon as far as I know but no, oh no. Is he a Mormon? He is a Mormon! He's a Mormon?! Yes! I thought that the only guy who was a Mormon was uh... the other dude on Fox. No, who? The other Fox guy, he's a Mormon? No he's not, Glenn Beck's the Mormon. And now the other guy with the football Kennedy's a Catholic. I thought he was a Mormon? He is an Irishman. Well it doesn't matter because it's about, it's Glenn Beck who sent the message Of course it is! He's a Mormon and they're all working together It's a cabal I tell ya So he goes on...and I wish I had the clip from this we should really get that

48:05 uh... he goes on the by the way it's slightly pathetic that i know these guys but thinking and i should nobody should know any of this so he goes on what his body show their back yet beck goes on a plays on orion was on our identity said this i don't we will have to look and see if you can find as he says um... here's a quote from him we are at the place where the constitution hangs in the balance I feel the Constitution is hanging in the balance right now, hanging by a thread unless the good Americans wake up. The Constitution is hanging... Hey, we're here, Benkel's always assuring us that his Mormonism wasn't going to creep into his broadcasting! So it looks like its there and this has, this is the do-do-doo attention all Mormons, attention all Mormons, the constitution is hanging by a thread time to run for the presidency And then we get Mr Hunt

49:06 and he's uh... so all the mormons are coming out and they're gonna go a save us which i'm all for it what is that what it was the deal with the mormonism what it would have been there was their car there isn't this thing well the mormons and no quite if you love them uh... they tend to be there a clannish let's start with that i think they're there and even dates and every family oriented very church or anything kind of art is very close to being almost i wouldn't call him communist But the way they are with each other is a very tight-knit socialist type. They help each other out, they're not dependent on the government and they're very charitable amongst themselves

49:46 uh... and their right most of the people i know that a mormon serene ice people on the i've never run into amin mean more amin amin or meant to have me in mormon they're all spread he has straightforward and uh... they had they do have a couple of crackpot beliefs that would be at least you and me and lot of people they don't for example caffeine is like it considered an evil thing so they won't have did generally speaking they will drink coca-cola but they'd but there be suckered into drinking s part of me Aspartame. Aspartame, sorry and I guess they don't use birth control? They don't...I don't know but i think not they probably don't they don't drink which is a you know another negative thing since the Bible's soaking in the Bible but apparently Baptists and Mormons don't drink because of something they interpret

50:35 and the caffeine drugs things like that there they have a lot of kids and because they don't they don't practice birth control generally speak right yeah huntsman has seven kids catholics similar and um... or they should be technically but they're not and uh... you know it's just about in their clannish a very clan ish as the key and error uh... fairly shut down kind of operation I think, uh...I need to do a little more investigation into what they're up to. Well i don't think they're up to anything Yeah they are taking over the country! Hello? What are you going to do with it? Hey take this country The blacks can't take it over, the Mormons sure wont be able too Now there's a statement for ya Nobody can because its not run by people that appear to be running it Right Sad state of affairs

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Comparative Religion, Baptism, Church Sects

The hosts engage in a broad discussion on the differences between Christian denominations, including Baptists, Methodists, and Episcopalians. The conversation covers various religious practices, such as post-facto baptism in Mormonism and the strict social codes of the Baptist faith. They debate the cultural perceptions of different sects and the history of religious splintering.

baptism· catholicism· baptists· episcopalian· mormonism· religious sects

51:34 So anyway, okay well we'll see what happens but this guy doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. Nobody has ever heard of him. Doesn't understand marketing I guess and Romney has a shot at it but Romney is such as stiff that and now there's a new movement which you if you haven't noticed it above democrats they're trying to pull what rush limbaugh supposedly did with hillary clinton uh... trying to keep her in the race long enough to screw things up when they ran for president uh... they're trying to give democrats is creating these organizations to get sarah palin to get on the ticket because i know that bob obama can beat the crap out of earth ever have an election off against one another

52:13 We apparently have uh look at the chat room is exploding this is interesting we've got some Mormons in the chat room I think cool well, I'd love to understand. Maybe you should go to one of their meetings death meetings? Get Adam to become a Mormon. I'm already a communist, can you be a communist and a Mormon? Mormons are really big on... Mormons are the ones that largely responsible for all the genealogy stuff that goes on in all these websites that have these deep genealogy databases that you can run into people look stuff up you can find stuff out there. Oh right! That's right because don't they have records going back to the... Forever. And the reason is because Mormons believe that if they can identify their any of

52:56 their relatives in the past, they can post facto baptize them to get them into heaven. This is very interesting you know my dad said that in the new year he wants to be baptized? Okay But that's never been baptized in any religion whatsoever. I guess not huh and I think he's a he's waking up He's like okay, I need to be saved Maybe does yeah? I don't know what to tell him well this is this is very interesting I think you became like for example he doesn't need to be baptized if you become a Mormon, you could have him baptized 25 years from now. I'm a moron! Not a Mormon, but a moron and i've been baptized in the moronic faith

53:49 So, I don't know what he should do. Maybe just go to a Catholic church and give them a couple hundred bucks and get baptized easy enough. Now wait a minute! Is there difference between the Catholic Church and Mormon Church? There's gotta be. It's gotta be whole different churches. Of course there is. Every one of these churches they all fight with each other It's like a battle of the churches. They all have differing views and various interpretations of the Bible, differing views on what you can do and what you can't do. I mean when you have somebody like Huckabee who I think is the most dangerous guy around whose a Baptist minister which i consider to be an onerous

54:26 Branch of the Protestant faith because they don't believe in drinking or smoking or dancing They're the ones who used to break up rock and roll record. Yeah, yeah Baptist he has a movie Footloose was inspired by that himself but believes that their world was created 6,000 years ago Wait a minute between a Mormon and a Baptist Oh Brother you got to get a book on comparative religion and read it And then you Well, what do I spend my time with you twice a week for? I'm not a comparative religious professor. I can just tell you the basics. You go like oh brother like you know and then... Well I know that is the massive difference! If you put two of them in a room together they start fighting

55:08 Really? That's their religion they put to me. Yeah, if you see a Baptist you punch him! It's in the book read the book. Baptists have the same thing about Mormons it's in the book well that's fascinating I we know what I'm going to spend some time and uh... read up on that i'm very interested now in this mormonism well then get you want to get into yourself to understand method ism which is very interesting because the methods in the baptist of the ones are always fighting with each other in the deep south for example in a little in a georgia the baptists are the ones trying to shut down all those though it be as teddy bars a trip district joints

55:46 the giant club is all the naked women are jumping up and down in a method is what these places so it's only a minute so maybe i want to be met with his then that sounds good as this would be more along the lines of uh... yeah you'd be more of a methodist type Although what you really are in your father both our Episcopalians to be honest about now. What the hell is that? Man, what's an Episcopalian? Well my alien is the modern version of the Anglican Church The first one to split off from the Catholics and what's a Protestant? A Protestant is a generalized term referring to all these different sects. Oh! Protestant is a Lutheran, a Protestant is a Baptist, a Protestants the Southern Baptists... Okay okay in what religion do you get to fiddle around with choir boys? Just that just is that only Catholic? All of them! They're all good yay!! Okay just checking my goodness this is bad and there's also then there's the Orthodox religions which are slightly different too You know Orthodox

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Universal Life Church, Kirby Hensley, Knighthoods

John C. Dvorak recounts meeting Kirby Hensley, the illiterate founder of the Universal Life Church in Modesto, California. Hensley viewed organized religion as a tax scam and sought to democratize the ministry by selling ordainment certificates to anyone. This philosophy serves as the inspiration for the No Agenda show's own system of granting knighthoods and titles to donors.

universal life church· kirby hensley· ordainment· knighthood· tax scams· modesto

56:46 Russian Orthodox Greek Orthodox all those that that's a good now these now you've only talked about the the downside are there any religions that have like some crazy upside for instance, I know that the Amish and and I would consider becoming Amish by the way Which is not necessarily religion. I don't think you look kind of Amish but I First of all, I could become an Amish because I like the whole idea of you know The horse and buggy, you know just working on the land But they also have this crazy thing, which is what do they call it? Like walkabout or whatever. When you're 16 you get to go nuts and then if you want to come back and be a... an Amish then yeah. Can I mention something to ya? Yeah You are way past the sixteen breaking point there so... No but I could still be.. I could still... Here's an idea

57:40 Give up on all this and just go nuts. With a cardboard... You don't need somebody, you don't need some religious figure to say okay you can go nuts now! With the cardboard sign on Hollywood and Vine The end is nigh Let's get back to the Huntsville guy The new world order is coming to take over I'm gonna be that guy That's my new religion Yeah Anyway read a book What is that? That's like the worst thing you can say to someone. Read a book! I didn't say it that way, I said read a book Yeah, but it's kind of like condescending just because you know It's because there's a whole course of study You could go to college and spend four years studying comparative religion and you'd still wouldn't know okay? Oh um I'm just identifying that you went. Oh brother Like I'm some moron well yourself your moron You've joined the church through the morons or whatever it is that you've just made up moronic faith Moronic faith well both of you And I are ordained ministers of the universal Church Universal Life Church which I okay

58:44 I'm actually a doctor of divinity. You paid more, you paid 150 bucks to become a doctor? No actually you know well now that we're on this topic... personally met Kirby Hensley who is the guy who started that church. Yeah, it's a great idea Oh was a great idea and so I we went out to me He was in Modesto and some shack in a farm So me and a friend We went out to Modesto and we Jack we went knocked on his door and did Kate brought by this and we had a long chat? He's very nice guy he's illiterate he memorized the Bible Wow by having it read to him and he was under the he believed that the entire Organized religion was a giant scam Mm-hmm, and it was a tax scam if above all And he felt that by starting this church of his this universal life Church That anyone who wanted to get in on the action should be able to without having to be religious at all

59:42 And so he started this thing and started selling minister certificates or whatever it is, ordained ministry. Certificates and doctors of divinity... He also asked me if I wanted a PhD in something! I said, would you like a PhD? And this is why they wanted to... And you turned it down?! This is the progenitor of our knights and uh... Yeah. Totally! I worship guys who do stuff like this. Fantastic! Because that's why-I've always thought that why don't we-why does the Queen get to give people knighthoods? Why can't anybody do it? Well, well all what were doing it where these are official titles official knighthoods and we're gonna do our baronies

1:00:21 Coming up this year right today to 2011 is the year of the barony so anyway Hansley was a really nice guy and he was funny because his ear stuck straight out it's almost like Obama's and He was just as sweet. It was a sweet guy, and it was really nice I was very one of the great men of the world Did he die? Is he gone? Oh, he's been dead for years. Okay well who took over? Who is running the show now because it is still around You can look it up there are families that I think took it over and they're still selling all of them you can still get your certificates for ten bucks or something like that Meanwhile the Crystal Cathedral is in trouble right? They are in bankruptcy

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Crystal Cathedral Bankruptcy, Robert Schuller

The Crystal Cathedral in Orange County, California, famous for the "Hour of Power" broadcast by Robert Schuller, has filed for bankruptcy. The hosts discuss the architectural significance of the glass structure and Schuller's legacy. Despite the financial trouble, the building remains a notable landmark in Southern California.

crystal cathedral· robert schuller· bankruptcy· orange county· hour of power· architecture

1:00:58 I'll tell you that place, have you been and looked at that thing? I've watched the Hour of Power many times. No no but it's right around the corner from here. I know! I should go, i should go. Go in there! It's amazing right yeah it's huge. Wow! It's a beauty, it's a giant glass church I mean, it's like an architectural marvel. It's dynamite! If anybody is in the area...it's in Glendale or some place like that? Something like that yeah. Orange County. It's in Southern California somewhere but anyway if you happen to be driving down the freeway and see what the name of it, Crystal Cathedral has signage

1:01:34 get off the freeway and go in and just walk into the place it is a stunner yeah I'm definitely gonna do that. I've watched that Hour of Power, I like the old guy never liked The Sun that much no the Schiller the old guy was great he was cool yeah i have watched a lot of the... Yeah you're due to jump into some church any minute No! I am due to start at church the Moronic Faith What are we talking about? This is our faith right here this show The show was our faith. So we can move on I suppose and let's uh, wanna Well let's uh, you want to do our thank-yous? We only have a few Okay Which is good because then I can now say well we don't have to keep doing the show especially in a week like Thursday nobody who was listening to this show I mean maybe a few people will catch up but this show that we do is for people who commute

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Donor Acknowledgments, Bank of America

The hosts read letters and acknowledge financial contributions from listeners, including a donation attributed to a Bank of America employee. They discuss the "value-for-value" model and the importance of listener support for the show's survival. While critical of Bank of America as an institution, they appreciate the individual donor's contribution.

donations· bank of america· karma· value-for-value· podcast funding

1:02:21 mainly and if there's no work they're not commuting if they've ever stopped communing in fact is the joblessness goes up our show gets hurt Andrew Schmidt atlas pennsylvania got a non the eleven one eleven eleven five by one to five by one five-by-one like that for some karma I have a job interview tomorrow need some okay You've got karma. We increasingly are sending these out by email as well, I think that seems to work doesn't it? It sure does Dave Rederer in Evergreen Colorado another five-by-one donation no comment Chris Eisbach and Cheshire Connecticut want to thank him for six five six four which is fifty five ten plus ten forty five two nickels on the dime plus 10 5 4 for the year of The Great Schism

1:03:09 Also, I want to send karma to Kyle Lee for good luck in the water business in 2011. You've got karma Griffin mine key which I would have pronounced my Nikki but there's no e in there so it is mind key and Hilton Head Island South Carolina one of the most prettiest one of the prettiest places in the world $60 Bank of America is credited with a fifty five dollar twenty-five cent donation out of Plano Texas Don't use my name refer to me as the no agenda brought to you in part by generous donation from Bank of America Bank Of America bank of opportunity Is this a commercial? Yes

1:03:54 uh... okay this would be the s does right and they are yeah by the way we think bank of america's stocky out there but i can't imagine a lot of his bank americans are really giving us any money we have no qualms about saying bank of america sucks when you do that on pbs here but they're separate dispersion because i've read the email does i believe work at bank of america but doesn't mean it doesn't suck no no they still so good guy though they absolutely suck although i will say bank of america their a t m's even though they charge you up the wazoo and of course we get that back from our back yes who drank that we go to give them money back uh... they will let you take five hundred dollars out of the machine and most most eighteens only do two hundred how can live on that actually i think

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Independent Banking, Mechanics Bank Service

A discussion on the benefits of small, independent banks highlights the Mechanics Bank in Northern California. The hosts praise the bank for its personalized customer service, such as calling customers to resolve transfer issues rather than simply charging fees. They contrast this with the impersonal and fee-heavy nature of major national banks.

mechanics bank· independent banking· customer service· atm fees· albany california

1:04:37 I think you can go... Chase may also do that. Chase, i think. I think our bank gives you a fee let's take 400 dollars. Yeah if you take it but our bank only has ATMs in San Francisco right hello not who I know but you can take you oh right I'm in southern California okay Greg Brunsell should we plug our banks so people can maybe get a clue and use it well will our bank be investigated I hope not. Well if we start mentioning it, where do we keep the spoils of our profits John? What's left! I think we can mention, there's nothing to take. Go ahead! Yeah the Mechanics Bank which is in San Francisco mostly in the East Bay and Northern California it has an independent bank that they claim...I always grill them on this, oh we're not going sell anybody we don't feel like it We're never gonna sell us one of a few, there are bunches these banks around the country They are small independent banks and they have..they know you by name when you go in their and its not real crowd and they have great services and when you go in

1:05:38 or when you use an ATM machine anywhere in the world and I used my card in Europe, they refunded the fee. Yeah, whatever the thing is where we're at. They refund it if it's three bucks to refund it you know the when because we opened our account at the headquarters in Albany, Albany California and So the woman there Her name just evades me for a moment she's wonderful and She called me up the other day and they call all the time hey Adam how you doing? What yeah It's from the bank oh hi Yeah, I know you got like a 50 euro transfer from Europe. It's like some app sale in France or something from the App Show You know the years worth of apps that I get fifty bucks But they put me out they misspelled the name and so it's going to be rejected So yeah, you should call them up now any other bank would just like reject the transfer And charge your 20 dollars your twenty bucks exactly and then not tell you about it. You'd find out about it much later

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Google AdSense Ban, Click Fraud Allegations

Adam Curry describes being banned from the Google AdSense program after his audience clicked on ads to support his "Big App Show." Google flagged the activity as a scam and refused to pay out earned revenue, even reversing previous payments. The hosts criticize the online advertising industry's rigid rules regarding user engagement and "creative" appeal.

google adsense· monetization· click fraud· advertising· big app show

1:06:40 Yeah. By the way... You know they do this all the time Can I just mention one? Remember that I got kicked out of the Google AdSense program Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I told you this. I was using it on the Big App Show and people were tapping on the ads because they wanted to support the show and all of a sudden I was doing like 900 bucks a month in ads which is good! That's a lot for Google, yeah It's huge right? And then so... So the first month I got like $900 dollars In the second month one day before the end of the month they kicked me out of the program They say well you've had uh.. You know it's obvious that this is a scam Now, I think it's questionable whether it was a scam. People were actually tapping on the ads to support the show but I guess people voluntarily going to the ads is not how it's supposed to work in Google's mind

1:07:27 So whatever, they kick me out. You can dispute it with a form which I did so that would they say well since this is clearly scammed we're going to send not gonna give you your check we're gonna send your money back to all of the advertisers but i had already put that check in the other check like a week before they'd sent me for the first month They refused payment! Of their first month oh yeah there assholes complete assholes and they stupid They're rich, but anyway. Yeah they're stupid and rich what could be worse? So anyway needless to say I've given up on that advertisement. That thing's gotta go! That AdSense thing is a scam from the get-go yeah i mean that's just a ridiculous situation it was just crazy people were actually tapping on the ads and because there were like ads for other apps duh

1:08:19 and of course I asked them to tap on the ads look at what our sponsors have to show. You're not supposed to do that, apparently you're not supposed... No don't tap on the ad! Yeah exactly How does that work? The advertising business is so stupid they believe online it's the creative It's the creative that's going to get people to hop on the ad its the color of the odd Which of course is true if you have a bunch of hooters there like Tits, Peep Outdoors or what are the best-selling ones? Teeth Whitener and Cottage Cheese Butt. knows the best-selling ads. I go to all these conferences, The Cottage Cheese Ad, you ever seen that one for like cellulite? Yeah it's disgusting! That's one of the biggest people click on that ad more than anything so now i understand they say you're not allowed to post on the page support the show click on the ad but I'm not I'm saying in the show I'm saying hey you know go check out the ads

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Funding, PayPal Issues, Streaming Infrastructure

The hosts address a significant drop in donations and the mysterious unsubscription of PayPal supporters. They discuss the development of noagendastream.com, an open-source radio project that has garnered interest from tech pioneer Dave Winer. The project utilizes Dropbox and BitTorrent for content distribution, aiming to create a community-based streaming platform.

paypal· no agenda stream· dave winer· bittorrent· subscriptions· open source radio

1:09:13 They did usually good stuff. They've got like other apps you might want to look at no that was illegal Anyway, I give it up on who cares value for value That's why we have to stick with the donation mall even though much killed us this week We lost out Greg Brunsell by the way in Kenosha Wisconsin gave us 50 bucks judge Christopher Lawton South Darmouth Massachusetts another fifty and Armin Breuer in Vienna uh... who's also uh... says thanks for the good work another fifty dollars from him and you just need some karma. Yeah a little bit of viennese karma for ya everybody it's crystal. You've got karma. Did you see that? That was a viennese glass karma

1:09:52 and we want to thank all the donors of lesser amounts of money, there were quite a few. And that was literally it though... But we'd like to get some more $33 subscriptions or $30 lucky subscriptions or anything like that in this coming... I'm looking at the spreadsheet but i don't see any of the 33 monthly so I see the five dollar monthlies There's a bunch of thirty threes but no 33 subscriptions! They came in they..I don't know when they show up on this thing? We have three lucky 30-dollar monthly I don't know. Yeah, it's too low Please also check your PayPal to make sure if you are subscribed Make sure that you still are subscribed and no one has looked into this properly No one has done the investigation. No one ever cares to go complain about it really but PayPal unsubscribes people all the time so at least from our show and no one can tell me why

1:10:43 Yeah, there's a lot of mysterious unsubscribes that take place. So please check that but you're absolutely right John regardless of I mean this is not enough for us to live on this week Well, I'll tell ya it's definitely never gonna do a third show. I've given up on that idea although I have accelerated work on the stream We had a fan, you know that Dave Winer actually is interested now in what we're doing with noagendastream.com and admits it publicly? What did he say? Well he tweeted! He said hey are you using Dropbox with this noagendastream.com That's a really cool idea! He tweeted that. Now that's good

1:11:21 That's good because that gets people interested in the stream. Now I've got people putting together playlists and doing shows, and then...I'm writing up a whole blog post about it. I'm sure you will ignore it as usual No no! I pay very close attention to your blog posts Okay well then make sure you tweet a link to it when its written Oh absolutely Thank You John I'll do it now Yeah go ahead just in anticipation coming in 2012 Coming soon all right, so there's something very weird going on and be away. Let's make sure that people get to the code org slash na channel of orac comm Slash na to donate for the next show So we can catch up you guys blew an easy opportunity to pick up an executive executive producership Yep It was a no-brainer but nobody did which is the first time ever by the way that We have not had an executive

1:12:09 Yeah, except for the two of us. No this is the first time we never got an executive producer and nobody stepped up to play because nobody paid listen to The Thursday Show as far as I can tell because it was a week off and everybody took people really do take off they'd stop that's what the TV people discovered years ago why show anything new to the public when they're not even going to be there to watch the television? Where does everyone go well maybe we don't have to fight it maybe we just have to give into it and do reruns like every other schmuck that's what we're gonna do because of the year of the rerun and i'm working on them i'm up to a half-hour forty five minutes you have the retrospective done this so i don't want to just miss what he is somewhere around july fourth uh... hope alright anyway devar dot org slash any given some hand and this time we're dead way wait we start off restarting not be a good start for the new year that's for sure

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Arkansas Blackbird Deaths, Hazmat Response, Fireworks Theory

Thousands of red-winged blackbirds fell from the sky in Beebe, Arkansas, on New Year's Eve, prompting a response from hazmat crews. Official explanations suggest the birds may have been startled by professional-grade fireworks or caught in a storm, leading to blunt force trauma. The hosts express skepticism toward these theories, noting the presence of federal officials in protective gear.

beebe arkansas· blackbirds· hazmat· fireworks· bird flu· environmental mystery

1:13:01 So BB Arkansas has some weird crap going on and it came out. Is it the birds? This is the birds thing, yeah let's listen to the report because the report has some interesting info in it which is not everywhere...which is not written everywhere particularly when you get some human resources who are interviewed Just before folks in BB rang in the New Year many witnessed an uncanny resemblance to that Hitchcock movie The Birds Now first of all, beautiful. Beautiful setup Hitchcock movie The Birds because those birds were not poisoned by persistent jet contrails they were just possessed right? What was the thesis of The Birds? The thesis was that the birds have decided as a group

1:13:42 to turn on the humans and kill them. Right, so this has nothing to do with the birds because here the birds are dying! The birds are falling out of the sky Yeah So it's a stupid analogy Thousand blackbirds fell from the sky off Wynwood Drive covering about a mile leaving quite the mess to clean up THV's Katharina Yancy has the details in our top story from the Information Center. Ashley, folks I spoke with initially thought the birds were poison because they're what they call a nuisance around this time every year. It's what they call a nuisance! What they call? What they call... They call a nuisance. That's what they call it. So what is it that they are a nuisance as they say thats' what I call it. We call you a nuisance lady But they are surprised to hear its more of a mystery

1:14:31 Millions, millions every night. You look up at the sky it's just black. Sounds like starlings! That doesn't sound like black birds? Starlings what do you call them? Starlings those are the ones that you see hundreds of thousands flying around like crazy Well now please make no mistake that any of the people interviewed or the people in the news business could actually identify the bird. They say hey what color is that bird? Black. Ah blackbirds right gotcha So it could be any kind of bird, we're not getting real information here but there is some interesting nuggets. Last night about 1030 I come out here and seen a bird drop In a matter of hours on New Year's Eve thousands of birds fell from the sky to their death And i just immediately called mom because I had gotta work and said you've got to get the kids and get the dog cause I don't know what going on but I don't want messing with any of them It was horrible You could not even get down the road

1:15:28 Without running over hundreds it was that bad. The mystery is unraveling like scenes from a movie. God, can you believe? It's like we can't... This reporting is unbelievable! We start off with the birds, it's a mystery. It's unraveling like a movie... Oh it gets better! Dozens of US Environmental Service crews spent the day picking up the birds walking between homes and climbing on people's roofs with protective hazmat suits Yeah baby! Gets better we've got the feds out there in hazmat suit Oh yeah! Now the plot thickens. Breathing masks Nobody knows, I asked these guys who was out here picking them up and they don't seem to know anything nobody knows anything just kind of freaked everybody out Officials with the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission flew over the area and determined it's a one-mile stretch there are a variety of dead blackbirds mostly red winged Okay red winged black birds Red wing black bird is a bird

1:16:30 yes used to be actually in the bay area used to be a dominant bird around here i haven't seen one in california well they're all dead apparently hold it I didn't know that there were down there but really black birds are very pretty bird the only thing i miss In this story which i don't think is actually mentioned I mean a huge opportunity missed by these morons at the news in BB, Arkansas. A huge opportunity! Thank you darling This would be perfect to say oh we've got the birds are dying off because of biodiversity But they missed that one. Yeah it is an opportunity Completely missed Let's finish up this report it's interesting A duck was also found No one has been evacuated because AD Wait did she say a duck was also found? I don't know go back Let me listen to that

1:17:20 Red-winged and a duck was also found. A doug? A dug? It sounds like Doug, she sounds like some guy named Doug. A dug was also found. Maybe it were hidden in the hand. We got her, she said dog! She said dug. Dug. It could be...it could be a duck or a doug. A doug at a guga. Does your doug bite? It's not my dog. We have dead black birds, mostly red-winged and a duck was also found. Is she talking about a duck or a dog? A dog! We have mysterious dead Dugs around. If your name is Doug, you better watch out because she could die! Some of these reporters are so brain-dead that it's possible that she thinks to this day she may have called Ducks Dugs when she was a little girl and she keeps calling him Dugs and nobody has corrected her! Nobody has corrected her ever as she got on television that way

1:18:19 Doug did she just say Doug? No, I'm gonna listen one more time. She says Doug variety of dead black birds mostly red-winged and a duck was also found at the end there But still, a dead duck. Wow! There's thousands of birds and a dead duck? Yeah the duck was probably killed by the falling birds. You know what happened? A bird fell on his head that's what happened No one has been evacuated because ADEQs air quality test came back clean for toxins Sure yeah they tested that in three seconds Came back clean for tox- I think this is uh persistent jet con trails

1:19:02 That's a good theory. Yeah, I mean these birds flying through it like in the one report I read they blamed on fireworks No Wow oh that's no wait you got to listen you gotta this is great he reported I swear to God I bring it up and read but I can damn near quote it It was it says that the persistent fireworks may have killed the birds out of they may have like freaked the birds out and they all died Of a heart attack. Yeah If there's saying that then you know, that is something evil Then you know and who said this who reported this to the AP Oh press no please Let me find this story. This is do you want me to find it? Yeah, I'll google it let me see dead birds

1:19:45 Fireworks come on Google's here. We go lightning hail fireworks may have killed birds over town Oh Lightning right oh my god, you're right so this has got to be something bad You doubted me no I don't make no I don't know I don't doubt you but it's just like wow Yeah, it's crazy. But I can't believe that... Well the air quality came up great after three seconds of testing! How long does it take to test? Testing takes a little longer to test for toxins in the air. What did they test for you know like it can't be that much. I'd like to know what killed the Doug. Well the fireworks could have definitely killed the Doug we just have to keep that going Is your name Doug watch out for falling birds

1:20:38 Because if you over dug that, you could say... Alright so what do we conclude from this fiasco? These are people who belong to my church of the moronic faith. They're saying, hey we got guys walking around in masks with hazmat suits maybe we should be wearing the same! Very good ladies. It's a logic, just logic. That is a logical thing. Very smart. You have to drop out of the sky like that... This is the only bird I have seen alive What's that? The public, you know the public is not stupid. No and even though they try to put the stupid public on the stupid bits there still some good stuff comes into this report. I've been for them just a drop out of the sky like that This is the only bird I have seen alive he seems to be injured just walking in circles and no making any sense. This is good information! He's walking in circles are not making any sense

1:21:35 Hold on, this is great. He's walking in circles and not making any sounds and he can't fly. Officials will confirm their findings when they get the test results. Now wait a minute she just said that everything was clean but now they don't have the test results? I think they're testing the birds. What else are they testing this is unbelievable Ministry of truth cover-up going on here till then they are given these possible scenarios lightning stress high altitude stress stress Stress I think birds just are under stress. Anyway, I got stressed

1:22:17 Maybe he maybe he met up with Doug and he got stressed out. Oh my god lightning lightning, please scenarios Lightning stress high-altitude hell or startled by fireworks Startled I'm startled by fireworks oh, I think I got a heart attack But neighbors just want answers something out of the movie exactly has Matt people walking around there not telling us anything I'd like to know kind of spooky You never know what's going to happen. The birds should be cleaned up by tomorrow, Game and Fish Commission's Karen Rose says poisoning does not appear to be the case and strange events similar to this have occurred across the globe a number of times Oh really? I'll have to look into that Historically stuff happens all the time I mean you got weird things that happen like a hurricane picks a bunch of frogs And then drops them in some town like you know Right Or a cow

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Persistent Jet Contrails, Aborted Bird Flu Narrative

The hosts speculate that the mass bird deaths in Arkansas could be linked to "persistent jet contrails" or a failed attempt to launch a new bird flu scare. They suggest the lack of media mentions regarding avian influenza is suspicious, given the scale of the die-off. The proximity of the event to Bill Clinton's political infrastructure in Arkansas is also noted.

chemtrails· jet contrails· bird flu· arkansas· propaganda· environmental health

1:23:13 Our cow lands in your backyard, you know. You wonder what the heck happened? Unharmed! No really has that happened? Stuff like that happens yeah it's always a fluke Really well that's pretty cool Well... Yeah you get free milk Well uh I'm gonna work on this. Okay, I think this is a good high priority it is for me because it does play into the persistent jet contrails and My feeling is that that is you know if if a flock of birds Goes through and by the way these persistent jet contrails. I have noticed getting up early except when my iPhone doesn't work That they're there, but when I wake up so this is often happening at night When persistent Jet Contrails magically appear and stay there for hours And you know you got some birds flying in that altitude because of course They're not where persistent Jet Contrails normally would take place a twenty eight thousand feet as birds fly significantly lower altitudes They probably thought yeah they fly through that

1:24:14 and I'm stressed! I'm going to fall on a dug. So, uh... I'm all over it. Alright! We'll keep an eye on the story. But just logically- you've worked for the government John- just thinking logically if a whole bunch of like dead birds on the ground You call the ASPCA or whatever people don't call like the hazmat unit Well nowadays because of the bird flu fears and all the rest of it you probably would call that has met unit No, I think every time they find a dead bird. They're fearful as bird flu and it's gonna transfer to humans Wow hey wait a minute this wow This could be a one-two punch Think about it bird flu Bird flew they've been trying to get the bird flue into us And this could be that oh well the bird flues here look the birds are dying

1:25:13 I'm surprised it didn't come up in the conversation right off the bat. It seems to me that this story, the way i look at this whole thing... The way you're seeing is some sort of a contrail story. I think its an aborted bird flu story that they were gonna drop on the market, you know to encourage people to get flu shots because people associate. They don't, one flu shot's as good as the other. And they were gonna blow it out as a bird flu scare but there are so many and end up killing so damn many birds it was like a disaster and it was like oh God no let's not do this way because this isn't, you know this is gonna frighten the public and we're going to have riots and so they squashed it and the giveaway to that theory of

1:25:55 of mine is the fact that it was not even mentioned as a sidebar in the story. And of course, it happens in Arkansas where Bill has infrastructure Yeah I mean so if they didn't even bring up any of the stories I read When a dead duck drops over here in Concord, they go oh it might be day. They're checking it for bird flu or they're so scared. I remember years ago every dead bird was bird flu now we have 1,000 dead birds there's 100 thousand who knows and no mention of the bird flu possibility? Well you know what... It was like a kill off and they were getting aborted. Abort! Abort! Abort! Abort to bird flu try something else. Oh okay they died of a heart attack they were startled

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Haiti Cholera Death Toll, Number 33 Symbolism

The official cholera death toll in Haiti was reported as exactly 3,333, which the hosts identify as a blatant use of coded numerology by global elites. They argue that the frequent appearance of the number 33 in casualty reports from Haiti and Afghanistan serves as a signal between organizations. The discussion touches on the perceived mismanagement of earthquake relief funds in the country.

haiti· cholera· 3333· symbolism· numerology· elite codes

1:26:40 Good enough, good enough. Roll with it! Print it! Print it! Roll with it... Good enough in an emergency meeting I can just see it but what do we do about the Doug? Hey boss what did we do about the Doug? Just have him report it Speaking of that um a number of people emailed me this and it was just too funny uh now of course we all know that Haiti has completely been taken over by the elitists. Whether you believe in the earthquake machine being turned on or not, quite amazing that a country that has not had an earthquake for 90 years gets a devastating one at an undisclosed unknown fault line everything's like crazy new

1:27:27 We raise billions of dollars, we do all the Kumbaya hands across America to save Haiti. We text our money and everyone's still in tents they're dying of cholera and you know that the elites love to rub it in our faces like haha just so you know were behind this! And then the news comes out Cholera death toll in Haiti rises to 3333 You're kidding me. No, this is everywhere I mean could you be any more blatant about it? We should have actually put a notebook together because for the last year and half you mainly have been tracking the use of number three in these reports 3,000 dead 333 this 300 that 3333 and that's unbelievable

1:28:16 That is ludicrous actually. CNN, AP everyone the death toll in Haiti's cholera outbreak has risen to 3333 I mean isn't that worth a news report by itself? Yeah what a coincidence there'd be so many threes involved in this number! That's unbelievable. I think not! And it was reported and everyone sent me basically the same story with a link saying Why do they have to rub it in our faces? Everyone's been trained very well. Yeah, well that's a good thing But that's exactly what it is yeah there is a good thing I feel great that did other people aren't you know not just stupid sleeping slaves and they were all awake and notice pick up on these codes three three three three give my grades I know I know it's just

1:29:03 And by the way, not four not Four not three out of six and it's not like it could change have an eight in there. And by the way You know you'll see this report come out again tomorrow It'll still have the same number like no one else died yet Nobody that exact number died yeah right And that'll be the, you're right. Until they get to another code number... So you can look for these codes in Sudan and Darfur coming up on the 11th The 11th is when you're going to see all these coded numbers come out We started noticing it really with a number of casualties in Afghanistan It was always 33 civilians killed Always 33 and its code! Its total code Total Code

1:29:50 What it's code for specifically we don't quite know. Yeah, and of course We still don't have the results of the scam election because they I think we need a huge distraction Something really really big and the minute that something really big happens Then they're going to put Jude Celestine Who is the outgoing president's protégé? They like all these P words too this alliteration of Preval's protege So, you know like Lady Gaga is going to die or no. Oh I'm sorry. No no better than that We'll have here's a distraction for you. Here's here's some prediction This is the total prediction

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Royal Wedding Distraction, Princess Diana Ratings

The upcoming royal wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton is identified as a major upcoming media distraction designed to cover for significant political events. One host recalls how 24/7 coverage of Princess Diana's death in the 1990s permanently altered the programming strategy of networks like MSNBC. They question the American public's obsession with British aristocracy.

royal wedding· prince william· kate middleton· princess diana· msnbc· media distraction

1:30:31 and it'll be the distracted not just the uh... distraction of the week on the rules agenda over there. It will be the distraction of the year you can wait for it and I want every human resource within the sound my voice to be on the lookout because the royal wedding is what is going to cover up a whole buncha stuff I think we'll see the elections in Haiti coming out when or just all kinds of stuff is gonna happen when this royal wedding takes place because that's the only thing you're gonna see on television is Royal Wedding. Yeah well you know back in the day, when I was working with Laporte and the rest of them sold it at O'Brien

1:31:23 On the site I was a guest on site right come on. Yeah What is the site when MSNBC first began in the 90s sometime? They were started by Microsoft they decided they wanted to put a tech show on because it was Microsoft NBC joint venture and so they had this thing called the site and I became a guest commentator on one of their pay you for that Yeah, I believe so. Not very much of it. No. MSNBC? So anyway...I'm not Keith Olbermann! Anyway so um... You're much cuter! So they did the show and then Diana got killed

1:32:02 Right and they went to 24-7 coverage of Diana and the ratings took off the rating Skyrocketed and they said screw all this bullcrap with shows that might have information Dvorak. He's like a Doug I wasn't a part of the decision, i'm sure. But the whole show was killed because what's the point? You can get these kinds of numbers that you can get with the death of Diana and so then the whole network went down to tubes and it never really had good numbers ever even with the Olbermann and Rachel on there but they're looking forward to something like this

1:32:39 And people just flock to this crap. Why is that? What is it... Well actually, someone sent me this... Who cares where America's from?! Why do we care about the British aristocracy!? I've seen like a million reports about the coin, the commemorative coin And everyone's like, oh Kate doesn't look anything like it on the coin. The coin is no good. Like what? Meanwhile we've got like... We're selling coins here made out of actual silver found at ground zero and no one says anything about that! It's crazy. Crazy. The 10-year commemorative. We did that commercial remember? The ten year commemorative coin is disgusting. Disgusting

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Star Suckers Documentary, Celebrity Obsession

The documentary "Star Suckers" explores the global obsession with fame, noting that preoccupation with celebrity has risen from 12% to 80% since the 1980s. The film examines how parents push children into reality TV and the biological role of neurotransmitters in the pursuit of fame. The hosts encourage listeners to download and seed the film via BitTorrent.

star suckers· documentary· celebrity culture· fame· bittorrent· neurotransmitters

1:33:20 So anyway, I think you're right. That would be a huge distraction and I don't know what's wrong with the American public that we should care at all about what is going on with the British aristocracy. Someone sent me a BitTorrent of a documentary called Star Suckers. Have you ever seen this John? No, it is. Starwhackers. Star suckers and it includes a lot of research that was published about the obsession with fame that we have worldwide not just in the United States but worldwide which has gone from like 12% in the 80s to 80 percent in the 90's and 2000's

1:34:05 In other words, the preoccupation has jumped from 12% to 80%. Yes. Really? Yeah! I thought it was pretty stable. No... It's a pretty big jump Well of course this has to do with the proliferation of media in general but just look at it Look at reality shows and you know and its good because they're kind of giving away the secret when you see this you go like oh my god look all these idiot parents who are pushing their children They set up these scams uh..in like shopping malls We're doing a reality show about kids and they make these kids do stuff like uh... hack a chicken's head off with the knife but it is rubber chicken right? But its like okay alright little Tommy and they give him a rubber chicken and a knife. And act like you are hacking his head off, and the parents go like go ahead Tommy hack his head off! The parents of course are more obsessed with fame than anything

1:34:55 it's it's a phenomenal documentary is it's really really well done and it shows you just how crazy gotten because when what's the name of it again star suckers i don't know i don't know if it's available on uh... like in youtube bits and maybe uh... if it is so will send me the linkable to put out definitely put our list that one of our day producers whose maintaining the recommended their movie lists but was so cool about it is it actually um... shows u uh... how It has all to do with the neurotransmitters. You know, it's like being famous because you know fame of course is the way out and fame is the way out of the rat race

1:35:32 That's why everyone is so obsessed with it. So, it's not like... I don't want to be a great soccer player, I just wanna be David Beckham! You know? I just wanna be famous like him because then you get all the free shit and all the money and that's true! And we give you these little opportunities with American Idol, America's Got Talent... You think you can dance. Yeah, you think you can dance, dance like Michael Jackson All of this stuff And we give you the... and, you know, thousands of tens of thousands people show up for these auditions because... and they're right! Because actually you can become rich. It can happen look at the Jersey Shore people. Well if they cant get a job might as well do that. Might as well

1:36:18 So yeah, it's a great documentary. Again I'll put the BitTorrent in and whoever sent me that I can't remember offhand...I really appreciated it! It has-it's not seeded a lot so it'll be great if more people are seeding it from the NoAgenda community so we'll download much faster took me like half a day to get it in God I love Bittorrent! So do you ever use torrents? I used to, yeah. But the problem is my taste if you haven't noticed is so screwy that... There's no seeds at all of the stuff you're looking for. There are no seeds! It takes years! You are the seed! It was like it looked back weeks later and there's a piece of it has been downloaded and then I gave up on it So while we're on the topic media assassination I thought this was interesting

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Tech Meme Analysis, Haiti Health Ministry Investigation

An analysis of top tech stories from 2010 reveals that most "news" originates directly from corporate blogs and press releases rather than independent reporting. The hosts attempt to track the source of the "3333" Haiti death toll, identifying Gabriel Thimote of the Haitian Health Ministry as a key figure. They struggle to find an official government website, highlighting the difficulty of verifying international data.

techmeme· pr· haiti· gabriel thimote· health ministry· news deconstruction

1:37:09 Tech memes and this was sent to me as soon as by Dennis Cruz one of our longtime producers tech memes top 50 tech stories of 2010 shows the influence of The corporate blogs and more importantly press releases on Six of the top ten stories in tech and we're just saying tech because this is what you know We know I'm sure our audience knows a little bit about this six of the top 10 news store news stories came directly from blogs From the companies in question. So as Steve Jobs's thought on flash Andy Rubin's Google blog posts about changes in the Nexus one availability

1:37:50 So it just proves that there is no news, there is no reporting. It's all PR companies none of it is actual news and reporting You think a PR... someone sent out a press release about the 3333 in Haiti? Where do they get that number from I'd like to know This is the problem that we have because we're just the two of us, reverse engineering everything and deconstructing. But we don't have any... We're not getting inside information from actual spooks or government sources or anything else. We are just taking things apart and showing people how to do that themselves a lot of people obviously as well as we do

1:38:36 And so we don't, so when it comes to like why 333? When did that become a code number. Why is it a code number and who's delivering under what circumstances and what does actually mean in the end when day is done we don't, we can get that part I mean we can kind of guess once in a while but this was too obscure. We have never figured it out okay so Fox News reports the number deaths in Haiti from the cholera epidemic afflicting the poverty-stricken nation since mid October has risen to 3333 according to the health ministry they have a health ministry in Haiti? I like the word ministry I think there's an element there about the code

1:39:17 Oh, it came from the ministry. There's more interesting numbers in this they're pretty specific oh According to a bulletin posted on the ministries website Let's do this right now John. This is very annoying let's find this out so Haiti Ministry of Health We should be able to find it. That right? Yep! Okay, let me work on it too. Well Haiti has a... they must have some kind of a... come on chat room help me out here I see US government officials and Haitian Ministry of Health. I don't see a Haitian Ministry of Health website What is the Haiti top-level domain name

1:40:06 Is it HI or something? I don't think it's HI. I didn't even know that they have one Yeah, I thought they did actually Well let's take a look You just type in Haiti TLD and you should get it Haiti Government website come on chat room where are ya work on this with me will ya HT HT see I told you would be HC so what would be Boy did they I'll tell you one thing They got no Google juice those Haitians So

1:40:44 Haiti maybe it's a It was a backward country finding a lot of Chat room suggests go screw yourself.gov would be All right Oh Here's uh, yeah You know what I'm disappointed in our human resources they had the US government officials Haitian Ministry of Health discuss next phase of medical and public health support in Haiti oh boy. Oh here we go I've got it. Enlightenment did it, like its scrolling so fast that I can't even grab from the chat room. Oh god! Oh boy... Alright here we go. Crap. It's mspp dot goov dot ht. MSPP dot goov dot ht

1:41:39 Funny, on October 29th it's supposedly the cholera epidemic which was killing 305, which still had 3 in it but not that many. Supposedly was subsiding Really? Really! Hmm... Okay how do I change this to English It's in French This is not helping Go to Google Translations No, they should have an English version of it That Gouvre Yeah why, it was international Let me see there must be an English version Plan du site Okay, here's your I got you go to guy. Let me look this guy up Gabriel the mote a on I think just do gov dot HT No, it's gotta be goof. Well, this is fascinating Yeah, well the ministry there we go the ministry or gonna grum do Organogram do ministry? Okay What's health in French?

1:42:51 nothing they don't have health there. They don't? There's no such word now, I'm just kidding. Direction générale, direction centrale, unité coordinatrice centrale, le Dougue? No. Error file! All right work needs to be done you know what in Wikipedia it's got three three three three in there oh of course this Ministry of Truth But where does it come from? From a blog post? It comes from this guy, Gabriel Thamote. That's the key if we can figure out that guys background we'll figure out the whole thing Why is he the one who is propagating the message? Yep He's the head of Haiti's health department Gabriel Thamoto said 4147 people were treated to whose cholera chief Claire Leigh Shagnat said the epidemic was not contained as in October She did not achieve its peak

1:43:43 Gabriel Thimotee keeps coming up. Okay, Gabriel have you wikied him? I'm looking at the only wiki that you've got is the 2010 Haiti cholera outbreak wiki page which apparently documents much of this but i haven't gotten a background on this character Monsieur Thimotee T-H-E-M-O-T-E This Gabriel J-B-R-I-E-L-T-H-I-M T-E accent grave. Oh, an accent grave! I know how to do those actually. It's like biodiversity. Hey here we go hey he's got a flicker page well now you're talking. He probably has pictures of dead people. Hey he's got a flicker page

1:44:34 More than 200 people died in Haiti in the wake of a cholera epidemic declared in the country, announced Saturday the Director General of the Ministry of Health Gabriel Timoteo. Oh! Is it Timo-tee-oh? I don't have any spelling with an O on the end. It's T... He has T H I M O with an accent. T E O No Well, this is on his own Flickr page. Well then it's not spelled that way any place else so it was meant to confuse us Wow All throughout every document I've looked at has got its spell without that spelling It's spelled T-H-I-M-O without any accent T-E Wow Alright well anyway like I said this is the point we have been making which is we can't get to the bottom of it

1:45:30 There's a... Wow. 3,000 dead 33,000 hospitalized This Timotei guy is interesting He's a doctor and apparently he has been... Here we go But far from taking aggressive and proactive measures like stopping traffic, Haitian public health authorities have been trying to minimize the crisis claiming as the Health Ministry's General Director Gabriel Timothée did October 25th that the disease progress has been stabilized. Here they're talking about H5N1 so this guy may be a bird flu shill as well hmmm What are they? They're talking about h5n1 Yeah This is back I'm going back to October now

1:46:13 Where there were 337 cholera deaths. More 3's, more threes. Okay we're cut out for us human resources let's work on this This is a fascinating stuff. Thumbs up! Yeah fascinating the 333 is definitely a signal it's saying look out interesting shit coming your way now It's obvious. Definitely a signal it's like a flare There's the flare Okay, we've got to get to work. Um... So I got- Yeah please We're gonna change topics a little bit. I want to bring something up my wife kind of brought up

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Red Dye 40, Ritalin Connection, Food Additives

The hosts discuss the health impacts of Red Dye 40, a petroleum-based food coloring banned in much of Europe but legal in the United States. They suggest a link between hyperactive behavior caused by food dyes and the high prescription rates of Ritalin. The discussion criticizes the FDA, noting that its leadership often includes former executives from companies like Monsanto.

red dye 40· ritalin· fda· monsanto· petroleum· adhd· food safety

1:46:53 She is in, we have one of Eric's sons was a hyperactive kid that was borderline to go on Ritalin. Ah! We got to throw that kid on some drugs? But all they did was they finally and my wife has been into this for some time because she noticed this effect too They pulled everything they could out of his diet that contained red 40 Red dye 40 And now he's just the normal kid So she came up with that, and I said that's interesting. Because I remember red dye for being such a big deal and she was baffled by the fact of the FDC if you look at these dyes the Europeans won't let you use any of them Now this is very interesting when i'm in just to give some background on this in 1972

1:47:39 Before many of you were born, when I moved to Gitmo Nation Lowlands with my family. I remember my mom saying wow the meat here really looks... I don't like the way the meat looks at the butcher's. They still had butchers shops back then and that was long gone. She was a member of the American Women's Club and they had a newsletter, and said well you know the reason why the meat doesn't look so great is because they do not allow the dye to be put in the meat to make it look more attractive in the butcher shop. So this has been something that's not culturally accepted anywhere except in the United States as far as I know. Yeah! Now I'm proud of my wife she listens to this show and she came up with this one She says

1:48:27 Why is red dye 40 legal in the United States, banned everywhere else in the world pretty much? In this scene of some natural thing because it comes from some bug wings or some crazy thing. No its not synthetic its actually something from the natural world Yeah its some crazy thing and its called Allura She says, who's really responsible? Who really runs the FDA nowadays? The drug companies. And who benefits from crazy wild kids running around like nuts? The drug companies! The drug companies that make Ritalin Do you think there's a connection between Ritalin being doled out like there is no tomorrow, which is what they're doing today and the fact that these kids are being hyped up with Red Dye 40? Is there any possibility that this is the case when she right in front of her very eyes is walking effect on a kid. Very good Mimi. Let's not forget that the director of FDA is Michael Taylor former Monsanto executive

1:49:28 So of course it's, duh. And they put red dye 40 in chocolate? Really? They put in everything they can think to put it and this reminds me what they do with soy, the same thing why...and I bitch about this constantly Why would you buy go look at your cans of tuna like from Sunkist and look at the label, lots of cans of tuna you'll see this. It says no actual dolphin! There's some... it's tuna and there is soy in there why am I buying soy meal when i'm supposed to be buying a can of tuna? Yeah yeah well because uh... there's no actual food anymore there's no food left we're just eating sawdust with color and taste things and MSG make your brain think that its good

1:50:13 Well, apparently the latest version of this red dye 40 by the way is not made from the insects. It's made from petroleum. It's made from gasoline! It's made from gasoline... Let me see could that make your kid go wacky? Red dye AC was originally manufactured from coal tar and now it is made mostly for petroleum despite the popular misconception Allura red AC was not derived from any insect unlike the food coloring carmine which is derived from the female insect of some sort so you know um whatever the case is look for it You know waited people, please take a look at what's happening around the world Look at Japanese look at the Brits The Brits used to be thin white people. The Japanese used to be tiny Slim people they're all fat and gross now like us here in the United States because of the crap They're eating is not actual food cook something yourself go go to a farm find

1:51:12 This is the thing that scares me the most. All they can take my money, but when they take away my food? I have no food! There is no food it's frankenfood And go and use olive oils and safer plant oils rather than canola and soy oil which neither one of these things has never been tested Soy oil has estrogen characteristics What is soy oil what does that call? What is the brand name not soy oil Soil. This is called soil! Let's call it soil, that'd be great. Hey I'm putting some soil in my food. It's called soybean oil.

1:51:54 Anyway, the point is that these things along with high fructose corn syrup which everyone... I know all the PR agencies. By the way soy is one of the best ones if you want to follow up PR do a little research on people that bitch about soy oil being not necessarily healthy never really fully tested has estrogen like characteristics gives them... you know like it gives males big breasts. Yeah, exactly! It gives you a big breast and so go look in the media, do some googling and spend the day looking at all this stuff and you'll find all the responses oh no that's not true and then they will give your laundry list of reasons that all this is bogus its just a bunch of propaganda against the soybean companies

1:52:34 And you read this and you're gonna read exact word for word rebuttals in every source that you've ever run into because they got it's one PR department, the Soybean Institute. They send this woman and a bunch of them, they come out. And as soon as anything negative comes out in the press they get called immediately. They demand a rebuttal and they demand to get certain things printed or reversed if there's bad thoughts about these oils. Then they run these exact articles that are word for word You know accounts there's like talking points that these people send out and they end up the media just parrots them by eats it right up This is why we need to do some surveys of our own because whenever you have a survey, oh It's a survey. Well in that case a Survey just print the numbers

1:53:22 It's a survey. Hey, study shows it's a survey! In fact my son who is the first one JC is the first one who got the whole family off of soy and we you know reversed our take on a lot of stuff Good boy good boy He because he ran into a large research piece about how soy generally shrinks the brain and used everyone's way to see a reference this nobody knows what the references for because whatever that the document was is missing it's gone from the internet every time it shows up they they basically get pulled and you will never find this document anymore. That's another reason why I tell people out there if you see something really weird that your read, that is kind of frightening save page as... Right or better yet if your on a hack in Macintosh save page as PDF

1:54:11 which is fantastic. Print this PDF. You don't have to worry about it disappearing like a lot of stuff does, but anyway so this red dye seems to really be a problem and it's been observed that there's anecdotal stuff which oh its just anecdotal doesn't mean anything no study has been done. Anecdotal information is valuable when you want it so obvious say your eating something in your arm falls off and you go, oh gee I don't know if there's a connection. You stop eating it your arm grows back! Well it's just anecdotal doesn't prove anything that's not scientific! Oh come on at some point... What do you think? Science! You don't know what you're talking about we have many scientists here the FDA It's all good they've all worked in Monsanto before

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Toronto Women, Canola Oil, Physical Health Observations

John C. Dvorak presents a theory that the increased use of canola oil in Canada has led to a decline in the physical fitness and appearance of women in Toronto. He contrasts current observations with memories of the city from ten years prior, attributing the change to dietary shifts. The hosts discuss the origins of canola oil as a branded version of rapeseed oil.

toronto· canola oil· rapeseed· physical fitness· canada· observation

1:59:14 about so what dog it's about time bug so one of the things i know someone we've made this switch over some years back to canola oil which is rapeseed oil as it has the source of of branding its not okay it's not a type of oil it's a brand canola means canadian oil with low acidity it's not and it's not a plant in any sort you know beacon queen question people about his all yet the canola plan was a good old plan look like uh... new anyway so i'm going Once they started feeding soybean oil to the American public, as opposed to all the other safflowers and some of the more safer oils. Safflowers are good, grapeseed oil is good, sunflower oil is healthy and olive oil which is one that Europeans use mostly and duck fat and goosefat to cook with. I know this will sound weird but it's not like this is all I'm obsessed with. Butter!

2:00:06 butter just use butter actually butters better than my margarine that's for sure it was a proven but anyway so you go to toronto canada where people walk a lot specially done young the street which is the world's longest straight street anyway people want around and so there's a you notice americans notices when you go to canada The women in Canada, because they're walking all the time have extremely pretty butts. No they got pretty butts Really? Yeah but that ended about 10 years ago and now the butt are getting this cottage cheese style Their butts fell off

2:00:44 It's gone downhill. I mean it used to be the town with is just you know, you just watch women walking around Wow nice bow It's like it's not that way anymore and I attribute it to the canola oil Hey Doug Doug my butt fell off My butt fell off because the canola oil dug just saying really It's noticeable to me because I only go to Toronto every so often but i notice and same thing with Vancouver. Well, I've got Kevin the Canadian Blade...I shall ask him.. I would like all of our other Gimmon nations... Well it is going to be less noticeable if you live there. Yeah! But when you visit and you go holy crap what happened all these pretty butts are gone? Oh really?! You know I never took you for a butt man John

2:01:31 I'm more of a faceman myself. Because all these oils, there's no reason to be a butt man anymore especially in Canada But is are the butts bigger or they just I mean cuz you know Sloppier and they bounce around and they got the cottage cheese thing. How do you know that? Can you see cottage cheese? They used to be these dynamite looking, I mean we're talking the best butts in the world were all in Toronto And now the buts there are just whatever You know, they're just like American butt should run into in Arkansas big butts, you know flabby buts Look can you see the cottage cheese through the clothing?

2:02:09 Often? Wow. That's, oh because of course a lot of these big butts insist upon wearing tight lycra! Well they don't know anymore that their butts don't look that good with tight lycra. Okay, so Toronto used to be at the best butts ever and now it's just like you don't even want to look let's put it that way. But of all the butts in the world... You look straight, you look at the road there's a lot less accidents I'll bet! I bet you can do a study in Toronto in terms of city street accidents and the accident rate has gone through the floor down because the butts are no longer nice to look at. No distractions. John C. Devorak's Pet Peeve Of The Day

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

Michael Jackson Autopsy Special, Bobby Farrell Death

The Discovery Network canceled a controversial televised autopsy special on Michael Jackson following public outcry. In other news, Bobby Farrell of the disco group Boney M died in St. Petersburg, Russia, on the same calendar day as Grigori Rasputin. The hosts note the irony, as Farrell's most famous performance involved the song "Rasputin."

michael jackson· discovery channel· bobby farrell· boney m· rasputin· st. petersburg

2:02:47 Or an observation than a peeve, but you know what? I think it's a peeve. You're disappointed in the Toronto Buttage Yeah the buttage is not what it was There's my opening clip, I was waiting for it thank you Wow well uh gee whiz...you got uh...you know what actually maybe we should uh...duh-dug Maybe we should just do this real quick before we get out of here And now, back to Real News. Four weeks more or less and maybe it's because we have a lot of people listening to show But today is not a record number show as we can see even by the support in the PayPal And it just cuts out for no reason, just stops. So um you know and we pay a lot of money for this It's not cheap so please send me your recommendations For a new shoutcast streaming provider This has gone too far now We're gonna cut off these guys at Primcast

2:03:58 So real news Really only three topics that I wanted to hit the autopsy Michael Jackson autopsy show has been cancelled John After we made a big deal about it. And I'm sure everyone got really upset and this was the Discovery Discovery Network was going to do this the Michael Jackson autopsy what nearly killed Michael Jackson so that's been canceled even though they had been broadcasting promos and And yeah, so apparently a lot of people got upset about I think it's only it's gonna be pitched up pushed off just temporarily but from what I understand the The conclusion in this documentary was that he killed himself that it was suicide But now isn't gonna work. It is even funnier So I haven't seen the actual of course haven't seen the actual show but that's what I understand Is that? The conclusion was he probably killed himself right and

2:04:52 Then we have very sad the passing of Bobby Farrell. Do you know Bobby Farrell? oh yeah no you don't i think i've seen him perform yeah he was a singer and he did that uh... happy song i think yeah the happy song bonnie m he was the uh... the guy in boney m. he wasn't really a singer more dancer on fact i'll think any of the other night many of the voices in uh... bony m were actually on the record uh... he was living in gitmo nation lowlands for the past twenty five years i think uh... he had passed the d passed away at sixty one in saint petersburg and uh... of course uh... the way saint petersburg yeah i think so yet he was on tour in russia found dead his hotel room in st petersburg russia we had been performing idea as agent confirmed that he complained of breathing problems before and after a gig on wednesday because you basically go out by himself and and and i guess it would be without the other women uses basic lip-syncing to

2:05:57 uh... to the tracks he did that does the guy who created member millie vanilley yeah okay so millie vanille you wanna grammy boy which we're doing that show back then this show back then they want a grammy didn't sing a single note on the record because i think german producer of frank ferrari and he'd be good all that stuff you get other voices to do that so this was first project was bonnie m which is created by the same frank ferriero uh... the guy in the end of the i don't think uh... bobby for actually ever sang on the record at all So but he had made quite a career out of going around and performing as the crazy dancing guy from... And it doesn't matter, it's fine. After stuff is lip-synced on television that you're watching? How about 90%? Yeah 90%. But anyway so luckily we're able to spin this into a real news story It took someone a little while I think the BBC probably did this He died on the exact same day that Rasputin died

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

Anna Chapman Celebrity, Salt DVD Promotion, 9/11 Hijackers

Russian spy Anna Chapman has transitioned into a major media celebrity in Russia, which the hosts suggest is a PR stunt to boost sales for the Angelina Jolie movie "Salt." The discussion shifts to unresolved questions regarding the 9/11 hijackers, with reports claiming several individuals identified as hijackers are still alive in the Middle East.

anna chapman· russian spy· salt movie· angelina jolie· 9/11· mohammed atta

2:06:55 and of course he had a song rah-rah Rasputin which is a big hit for them so thank goodness we were able to spin it into a great news story by oh hey he died on the same day Rasputin died. The hand of Rasputin. Yes, Rasputin reached out from the dead and pulled Bobby Farrell in And then my favorite...my favorite of real news this week is Anna Chapman Of course our Russian spy, who wasn't thrown in jail. Wasn't assassinated executed. She just went back to Russia exposed as a spy went back to Russia and she's now a huge deal she was on this is your life in Russia and so they did a couple of things

2:07:47 They gave her a tiger cub, because that was on her Christmas wish list. She's an amazing celebrity! She really spun this into something big but the reason why this is interesting in the news is because they bring up the question of well gee you're so much like Angelina Jolie in Salt and you remember that this whole new story broke when the movie came out right? And you even called it as a promo for the movie Salt Yeah. Well guess what? The DVD just came out! Oh, there is a connection now for sure There's a total connection They have... the assault movie did poorly It did very poorly and so they needed to spike up the DVD sales And if you don't think that Russian mafia as witnessed by Ronnie Veronica Cohen Chason Russian born The Russian mob is running Hollywood End of

2:08:43 The Russian mob runs Hollywood and they're like, hey you know we need to... Boris! We have some problem with Salt DVD sale. Get Anna Chapman to talk about Salt. It's no coincidence how many times do we... Is there? I mean come on it's funny No not when she comes out and say what are we gonna do about it How can we make it more blatant nobody is getting it Well we are. Anna just say it will you, just say it no one's gonna care if you say it It's not going to hurt ya We got some here's a couple of here Here see? Here! How many hundred do you need what do you want What do you need new dress? You need a new car? Just say it Say salt Yeah We're tired of fooling around She probably wasn't even a spy for all we know she wasn't even a spy was just hyped up by the media I mean she was allowed to leave she would allow to walk right out

2:09:38 She probably wasn't- I'm not sure who they got back in exchange. That's the thing, they got four people back Who never does never discussed we know every detail about this woman and a bunch of other stuff But we have no idea who these four spies that we get. We've got in return right enough nothing Well, that's like the the 9-eleven hijackers who keep showing up alive This is another thing it's pretty amazing There's how many if they found like nine of these guys are alive and well say hey Hey I'm living over here in Somalia How you doing? I'm alive. I'm not dead. I wasn't on no plane You Google it. It's never been fully resolved in my mind. Google it! There was a report, oh I have this... It came out just last week? I think there was another guy who said that I'm not dead Let me see if I can find that real quick. It was funny. When Mohammed Atta shows up then we know something is up for sure let me see if I can just find this real quickly it was on the I don't know if I can find it quickly but it was like it was a report that came out

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

World Trade Center 7, Jesse Ventura, Media Accountability

The hosts discuss the collapse of World Trade Center 7 and the lack of official explanation for its freefall speed. They reference an interview by Jesse Ventura with a 9/11 Commission lawyer who claimed the "institution" had to be protected over the truth. Adam Curry pledges to stop discussing 9/11 theories if a logical explanation for Building 7 is provided.

wtc 7· jesse ventura· 9/11 commission· conspiracy theory· freefall· media criticism

2:10:42 From the BBC no less. I remember because someone sent it to me and was like, wow that's pretty funny... Now i'll have to hunt around for it but anyway- Let's play a clip here I got uh since this is a retrospective clip from the old movie from the 40s or 50s The Time Machine, the George Pal movie And this is I just had to clip it out because it's such bad acting that I couldn't resist You do need to taunt me don't you? Okay Yeah The underworld of the Morlocks was gone And so was the life of leisure for the Eloy. But then what of me? I was imprisoned in a world in which I just did not belong Are you sorry? Hmm, sorry? Sorry for what? That you have to stay Yes...I'm sorry because I could tell so much to people at my time Weena I could let them know about-about the sorrow and happiness that the future has in store for them Maybe they can learn from it

2:11:51 Oh, could they? Yeah. They were really good back in the day John. They were awesome You know what's funny about it is like what is with this James Mason accent that a bunch of actors had Leisure... you know what I mean? It was supposed to be them, you know leisure. It was supposed to be British accent What are they supposed to be doing with this? Touch them so much So, uh... Bad acting. Sorry! So for those in the chat room saying, Adam Curry with his 9-11 bullshit explain World Trade Center 7 to me. Doug. Doug. Explain that to me and then I'll stop okay? Yes he's made a pledge that if you can explain World Trade Center seven which collapsed without being hit by a plane after somebody yelled pull it

2:12:38 Yeah, you can explain that. Then I will forever stop! He'll stop and shut up. I will shut up forever just to explain it. I'd love him to shut up but i don't see anybody making this explanation Hey Doug why would you want me to shut up? And the government won't even discuss it What is the deal this whole thing is like shhh no didn't happen there was never a word who was it was like I have a clip I don't know if we ever played Where Lieberman or somebody says I don't know anything about world trace or seven is one of the old by the way It fell at freefall speed. Yeah, it didn't just like fall over or something it went down in freefall Just even to her you know I did watch one episode of that show that showed that does conspiracy theory and he went and he talked to the lawyer for the 9-eleven Commission and He just berated her and she had no answers

2:13:27 She actually said, well you know we had to protect the institution. That's more important than the truth I'm paraphrasing but she literally said Well you know we couldn't put everything in the report because we had to protect the institution The institution? Yes! She should have not done the interview what is she nuts No they made a big mistake by...well it was Jesse Ventura So when people say hey got an interview from Jesse Ventura and they're not clued in because these are stupid elites Yeah, I know there's a bunch of stuff going on. It always reminds me of like the Jon Stewart show that Comedy Central thing at The Daily Show He'll put people on that don't know what the show is and then they ridicule the person Right when they screw up exactly because then their purse is like befuddled by the fact They think it's some news show right exactly what is wrong with me just do a little due diligence before you go Do a show yeah so this woman usually should take a look at this one John it was a night

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

Media Stunts, Heinz Curry Ketchup, Star Suckers Revisited

Adam Curry shares an anecdote about an advertising agency asking him to participate in a fake legal battle over "Heinz Curry Ketchup" to generate news coverage. He uses this to illustrate how reality TV and modern celebrity are manufactured by PR firms. John C. Dvorak also recalls a past media controversy involving a column he wrote for the San Francisco Examiner about Seattle.

heinz· publicity stunt· seattle times· media manipulation· star suckers· pr agencies

2:14:22 I've seen that one, it is quite good. Actually the Area 54 one he does or 57 whatever the hell it is. How about 51? The Area 51 show he does. 54, 57...whatever! It was a great show! It's actually quite good but I remember one time I wrote a column years ago in the 80s for... That was years ago from the San Francisco Examiner, I wrote some scathing article about Seattle. I called everybody up there in Washington racist and stupid and they don't know what good food is just a slam

2:15:00 and so the Seattle Times picked it up and ran it as a huge feature with everybody in the city telling me what a jerk I was. It was like two or three page thing, and I got literally you can ask my wife a box huge box of hate mail really yeah box monster so that's the genesis thats where started finally I know thousands of letters have always wondered where does the incessant disdain come from John now I can't send the Macintosh is where it comes from because i was in a mouse thing the mouse thing so anyway let me finish the story so I got to you know that by the way within them mail there was a couple of people said yeah yeah your right blah blah but anyway what was interesting then I was booked to do a some talk local talk show that was fairly

2:15:49 popular and they were selling me a bill of goods on this thing so I course did my due diligence check the show out and i said no, im not doing it. Because they were going to screw with you? Yeah! So I just bailed on it. I don't need to do it, but you know what? I'm not gonna get paid any more money. The columnist has been done and paid for right now. I already got my bad publicity so I should go on this show and be the you know the butt of some guys jokes forget it! So I just said they were adamant that he was stunned... You have to do a show! Owe it to the public! This is media! This is very popular I've had that happen in Gitmo lowlands when i had all kinds of bad press about me and taxes and people like you have to, you have to come on the show. You owe it to the public! And then on the other hand we have advertising agencies come up with great ideas

2:16:38 Like, uh... we're gonna have this- I don't know if i talked about this on the show before. Uh they were going to pull all of the Heinz curry ketchup off of the shelves for a week and they were going to create a fake news report which I would participate in that I was suing Heinz over the name Curry because I was like you know I was involved in all these lawsuits and all kinds of crap for a whole bunch... So they're setting you up for a phony baloney publicity stunt story that was gonna be posed as news. But the idea was great! I'm like, that's very f- That is a great idea but again it's bullshit though. But what is the worst part? Is I said okay this is very funny, I liked the idea, I can see the humor in it What's your budget and then went like budget well no do you need this

2:17:20 We're not gonna pay you. I'm like, you want me to actually promote Heinz ketchup with a fake... Heinz curry ketchup with the fake news story and you're not gonna pay me? Well, no! It's for the criticasters out there it's for your own image Like what?! and that's how they do it. And then by the way this happens with every single reality star, this is the... Star Suckers! I'm going to put this in the show notes. Star Suckers you must watch this it'll tell you a lot about what's going on and then as before we leave uh we need to mention uh actually great word of thanks to all of the artists who have helped us out in the past year

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Art, 2011 Resolutions, Show Outro

The hosts conclude the episode by thanking the community artists who provide the show's weekly album art, specifically mentioning Nick the Rat and Paul T. John C. Dvorak shares his New Year's resolutions, which include losing weight and cleaning his studio. They sign off with their traditional credits and a promise to return for the Thursday broadcast.

album art· nick the rat· paul t· 2011 resolutions· podcast outro· dom perignon

2:18:02 uh... creating fantastic album art for this show were constantly amazed by what comes in every single week uh... we have a poll t uh... we've got nick the rat we've got to let's we have john i wanna miss any names here so make sure we thank everybody appropriately well that's going to be actually have quite a few let me go to the knowledge and our generator and then you know new guy show up but the week before last tax but ours uh... guest from get more lowlands uh... we don't we don't give these artists the props that they really deserve what we think that day they feel that they get to be proxy dennis krebs crew and then there and we have a course the uh... perk uh... who else do we have of where paul teaming michael burge well we had our other main uh... large when i'm noticing now is not uh... scott jesse anderson reviews a couple of his pieces in the past

2:18:55 We really, really appreciate it. You are the true unsung heroes of the No Agenda program and community because you spend a lot of time on this art It gets used once essentially and enjoyed by many And we have seen when we have shitty art that we get less people listening to the show and less money It's a fact Is it not the study has shown John we have a survey. Yeah, no it's an absolute fact we have a survey right Chris D gave us some stuff I'm going to get a couple more names mentioned here I think we used Dan Bruffy's stuff, didn't we use his on like the model rocketry? Who was our other main artist? Paul T hasn't sent us much recently. No and our main artist who actually...I think it was either Paul T or he set up the site and whose name is eluding me largely because now that i'm noticing he hasn't submitted anything forever! Nick Durant has basically taken over. A guy named Bad has submitted some stuff in the past

2:19:59 uh... nectar at seems to have taken over the place me get his name and a white side losing it he's on our road is actually does the uh... i think we're just stuff yeah no if you really don't know he's like a huge fan of the show in our but now he doesn't know agenda stuff page yet no agenda stuffed dot com yeah uh... so um... we do this in a sense that these thank you things to yes is the little preparation will would you use he was business what happens when we have a meeting so we had like it at three second talk about this to me we really think our artists used completely forget about it because i think we've already discussed it you completely broke up with meetings you have a meeting and the next thing you know but you are you know it's like you dislike pre-interviews

2:20:52 We are so bad. Come on, look through your email! You know who he is? I know who he is, yeah. No, uh... Dvorak dot org slash NA or channeldvorak dot com slash na for your support Please consider a giving level for the next program since this year did not start off too well uh... and but we were here to review during the christmas we hear during new year's and will be here to hear twice a week uh... every single week throughout the next year working towards more and no agenda stream dot com um... if you have not listened of the daily source code eight five six will be up later today as well on then you can hear some of the exciting stuff for doing a blog post about that forthcoming is well and uh... really working on the stream for two thousand eleven

2:21:39 Making it open source radio Since the podcast stuff is great for shows like this, but when it comes to a real community based thing We have radios now. They're called your phone And they work quite well and people are using them all over gitmo nation, and we will be looking for a new Streaming provider because this has also just become completely annoying primcast is out Find me a good one to use maybe we can even Use some of our existing infrastructure from we got so many sysadmins were so awesome and have bandwidth available that could save us some cash as well Then we pay like 200 bucks 250 bucks

2:22:18 for the amount of bandwidth we use every month on the stream. It's not cheap, you know? It's not cheap and have you found his name I can't cover anymore He is going to get a lot of credit on the next show i can tell you right now but uh... I don't know why that name is eluding us and looking at looking in and uh... he i'd guess she just hasn't contact or done anything for sir done much except to know agenda stuff website since uh... for about six months Yeah, this is a problem with you know you lose track of stuff. Meanwhile I can't yeah How come the shield isn't piping in on this wouldn't he know that shill is off babysitting? He's going through all the products extracting the red dye 40 Really his off now. He still logged in man. We still logged and I can see well my link to this no agenda Stuff seems to be dead too. I'm gonna fix that

2:23:15 Anyway, so the stream is where it's at for 2011 and we've got a lot of people very excited about working on that. John have you followed any of this where people upload stuff to their Dropbox and gets put into rotation automatically? I can just say this that people are thrilled with it Okay there you go That's all I wanted to hear Just want to make sure And John, do you have any resolutions for 2011? Well let's see I started the year off right with a... Right after the first when the clock ticked over. I had Dom Perignon 96. Ooh nice! For a taste and then decided I'm gonna lose another 15 pounds. I'm going to fix my... Wait a minute, you would stop drinking hadn't you?! Yeah and now i'm not drinking anymore but yeah But you had some Dom Perignon right? Why not

2:24:06 And so, uh... I'm gonna fix up my office to be a radio studio with the video. And then i'm going- Wait! Wait a minute you're gonna clean up? Yes. Nooo! Get out of town are you on twitt today?! I think so, yeah. Will this be with the new clean office? No of course not! It's just the first and second day of the year it's gonna take me three months to do this Can i come over and stand outside and just whatever you throw out I can catch or are you not throwing anything out? No I'm going to throw tons out...I think I'm gonna get one those giant containers. Yeah of course And then what I'd like is one of those slides that you could throw stuff into the slide and it slides down into the container

2:24:48 You know, like when they're tearing out a place? Yes. I know exactly what you speaketh of. Hey coming to you from Gitmo Nation West People's Republic of Southern California head of the Moronic Church my name is Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it has been miserable raining but eh... you know the plants need water. I'm John C. Duvorak We will talk again on Thursday right here on No Agenda